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• 110[02:15:38] <oerheks> is it me, or do you see weird russian on replaced-url
• 111[02:15:48] <oerheks> same on ubuntu btw
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• 113[02:16:57] <sney> 'uk' is probably short for 'ukraine' in terms of localization
• 114[02:17:17] <oerheks> oh, not UK ..
• 115[02:17:23] <sney> english locale is en
• 116[02:17:30] <oerheks> thanks for clearing up
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• 118[02:17:34] <sney> np
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• 210[03:38:38] <Urk> I am getting an error message indicating that "This disk is currently in use -- repartitioning is probably a bad idea. Umount all file systems, and swapoff all swap partitions on this disk. Use the -- no-reread flag to suppress this check.". My usb stick is already umounted.
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• 238[04:18:01] <Urk> Is this ok for a dd command? I am going to burn kernel 5.10 to a usb stick.
• 239[04:18:09] <Urk> dd if=/dev/ada0 of=/dev/adb0 bs=256K sync
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• 241[04:21:37] <nkuttler> no idea what those devices are, or what a kernel alone one a stick should be good for
• 242[04:22:16] <cws> That's bsd device naming.
• 243[04:22:33] <cws> Urk: What are you trying to achieve, exactly?
• 244[04:23:30] <Urk> cws: Burn an ISO to a USB
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• 246[04:23:57] <Urk> I need to reinstall Kernel 5.10.0 on my other machine next to me.
• 247[04:24:10] <Urk> My live CD is only 4.19 which is tool old for this machine.
• 248[04:25:35] <cws> And you're on a BSD system currently?
• 249[04:26:40] <Urk> cws: No, Linux. But the computer is painfully slow, a 32-bit system, on a legacy machine that is 20 years old. The one next to me is a Dell XPS 15 7590.
• 250[04:26:57] <cws> Then that is definitely not valid dd syntax.
• 251[04:27:16] <cws> I assume you've downloaded the ISO file?
• 252[04:27:18] <Urk> cws: What is valid?
• 253[04:27:45] <cws> And I can promise you that an XPS 15 7590 can boot from 4.19.
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• 255[04:28:48] <Urk> cws: During the last install, I found XPS could boot from 4.19, but it wouldn't run the wifi. I had to install 5.10 or the wifi wouldn't work. I don't have a special ethernet capable for this machine so I am going to do it by usbtion.
• 256[04:29:11] <Urk> Ignore the tion at the end of the last sentence. My manual dexterity is lagging tonight.
• 257[04:29:12] <cws> I never needed 5.10 for wifi on my 7590, soo...
• 258[04:29:24] <Urk> You have an XPS?
• 259[04:29:28] <cws> Exact same one, yes.
• 260[04:29:56] <Urk> cws: I like the screen brightness which is why I bought it. It is the brightest screen I have ever seen.
• 261[04:30:00] <cws> replaced-url
• 262[04:30:11] <cws> You're probably having an issue because you don't have firmware availalbe.
• 263[04:30:18] <cws> Try the non-free iso.
• 264[04:30:21] <Urk> cws:
• 265[04:30:22] <Urk> yes
• 266[04:30:34] <cws> Download the ISO that I just linked you do.
• 267[04:30:39] <cws> As for dd syntax, don't.
• 268[04:30:41] <Urk> I think I have one already on here.
• 269[04:30:57] <cws> cp filename.iso /dev/sdb (or whatever dev node your USB stick is at)
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• 295[05:08:16] <Urk> Would someone have an idea as to what I am doing with with respect to selecting the correct path? My devices are listed at the following url replaced-url
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• 298[05:10:55] <Urk> I get the following message dd: failed to open '/dev/sda5/home/user/Downloads/Firmware/*.*': Not a directory
• 299[05:11:08] <oxek> Urk: can't use dd for that
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• 301[05:11:31] <Urk> oxek: What do you recommend?
• 302[05:11:44] <oxek> what are you trying to achieve? dd looks like the wrong tool here
• 303[05:11:51] <Urk> cp?
• 304[05:12:10] <Urk> I am transferring firmware to /dev/sdc2
• 305[05:12:31] <oxek> then the firmware file should be a single file
• 306[05:12:39] <oxek> don't use shell globs (the * character) there
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• 308[05:13:08] <oxek> and an input path of /dev/sda5/home/user... just looks wrong
• 309[05:13:08] <Urk> oxek: I'm on a new machine so the wifi drivers can't be installed until the firmware is installed. There is more than one file.
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• 312[05:13:33] <Urk> oxek: what do you recommend for a path?
• 313[05:13:37] <oxek> in that case, you probably want to copy the files from one directory, into another directory
• 314[05:13:43] <oxek> use `cp` for that
• 315[05:13:46] <Urk> ok
• 316[05:13:56] <oxek> mount the input directory somewhere, and mount the output directory somewhere, and then copy
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• 333[05:31:50] <Urk> oxek: Which of the sda1 partitions do I want to transfer from? I just got an error message "unknown file system when attempting to copy.
• 334[05:32:11] <oxek> where are the firmware files?
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• 336[05:32:36] <cws> Urk: Did you try the debian iso that includes the firmware files?
• 337[05:32:57] <cws> Instead of trying to manually add them?
• 338[05:33:00] <Urk> cws: Not in the past two weeks, but two weeks ago they didn't work.
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• 340[05:33:18] <cws> You didn't indicate that you tried it at all when I told you to try it previously.
• 341[05:33:27] <cws> The non-free iso I linked you to before?
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• 344[05:33:56] <Urk> This is the path to the firmware dd: failed to open 'home/user/Downloads/Firmware/'. There are two .deb files, and a .gz file in this folder
• 345[05:34:05] <cws> That's not at all what I told you to try.
• 346[05:34:19] <cws> Download the iso that includes the firmware and try that FIRST.
• 347[05:34:44] <Urk> Unless this was a new file uploaded in the past month then it doesn't work.
• 348[05:34:59] <Urk> Instructions in Arch indicate it is a hard wire install only, and that it can't be done by wifi.
• 349[05:35:09] <cws> Last I checked, this is #debian.
• 350[05:36:30] <Urk> oxek: /home/user/Downloads/Firmware
• 351[05:36:33] <cws> Urk: And to be honest, so far, nothing that you've said or asked gives any confidence that you actually tried the non-free ISO.
• 352[05:36:56] <cws> So start there. Download the non-free ISO, write it to USB, and attempt the install. What you're doing right now isn't going to work.
• 353[05:37:00] <Urk> cws: Definitely tried it. jmcnaught will vouch for that.
• 354[05:37:49] <oxek> Urk: and what's the full command you're trying to use to copy those files?
• 355[05:38:47] <oxek> and nobody in here will vouch for what you've done, since you're trying to do many things without fully understanding them, so we can't be sure what's going on on your end
• 356[05:39:13] <cws> Urk: Linus himself could wander in here and vouch for it, and my response will remain unchanged.
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• 358[05:39:24] <Urk> dd: failed to open '/dev/sda5/home/user/Downloads/Firmware/*.*': Not a directory
• 359[05:39:37] <Urk> cws: Ignore the last post. It was an error.
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• 361[05:42:09] <Urk> sudo cp /user/Downloads/Firmware /dev/sdc2 cp: cannot stat '/user/Downloads/Firmware': No such file or directory
• 362[05:42:22] <oxek> yeah that's definitely wrong
• 363[05:42:32] <Urk> oxek: What is the right way?
• 364[05:42:37] <oxek> /user/Downloads/Firmware definitely does not exist
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• 366[05:42:54] <oxek> at best, it would be /home/user/Downloads/Firmware/
• 367[05:43:02] <Urk> oxek: /user is a sub-folder of /home
• 368[05:43:04] <oxek> or ~/Downloads/Firmware
• 369[05:43:16] <cws> Then it's /home/user, not /user
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• 371[05:43:21] <oxek> Urk: try it and you'll see, `cd /user/Downloads/Firmware` leads nowhere
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• 373[05:43:52] <oxek> and the 2nd issue is that you're copying directly to a partition /dev/sdc2, instead of some directory on that partition
• 374[05:46:07] <oxek> Urk: we're dealing with an xy problem here anyway. What are you actually trying to achieve? Install debian on some system? What's stopping you? And what operating system are you on right now?
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• 376[05:46:24] <oxek> and do you absolutely have to use the command line instead of some GUI files manager?
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• 379[05:46:48] <cws> Buster install to a Dell XPS 15 7590.
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• 381[05:47:00] <oxek> that should just work
• 382[05:47:14] <cws> It DOES just work.
• 383[05:47:22] <Urk> oxek: I'm trying to make a boot stick. I don't have the ethernet adapter for a USB port.
• 384[05:47:22] <cws> I own the same system.
• 385[05:47:41] <cws> Download the non-free ISO, cp it to the usb stick. That's literally it.
• 386[05:47:54] <Urk> oxek: I'm trying to make a boot stick. I don't have the ethernet adapter for a USB port.
• 387[05:48:05] <oxek> ethernet adapter for USB port?
• 388[05:48:11] <Urk> cws: File is already downloaded. I'm just trying to get it copied over.
• 389[05:48:20] <cws> What file did you download?
• 390[05:48:21] <cws> Exact name.
• 391[05:48:40] <Urk> oxek: yes, Dell makes a unique ethernet adapter for a USB port. There are others on the market, but not nearly as fast as Dell's device is pricy, and cost $45
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• 393[05:48:59] <oxek> you mean the XPS 15 doesn't have an ethernet port, and so you're using some ethernet adapter that you plug into USB, and the debian installer doesn't have firmware for this adapter, so you need to include those firmware files?
• 394[05:48:59] <cws> Any USB3 Ethernet adapter will work. There is nothing unique about Dell's.
• 395[05:49:17] <cws> I think wifi is the concern, here.
• 396[05:49:19] <oxek> if that's the case, then you just need to use the non-free iso image, and it will just work
• 397[05:49:29] <cws> Urk: What file did you download? Exact name.
• 398[05:49:52] <oxek> dell is horrible if they no longer have ethernet ports on laptops
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• 400[05:50:08] <cws> Most thin-and-lights don't have ethernet ports anymore.
• 401[05:50:27] <oxek> the future sucks
• 402[05:50:41] <Urk> oxek: They use a new technology which works the same. I looked it up.
• 403[05:50:52] <cws> There's nothing new about USB Ethernet adapters.
• 404[05:51:01] <cws> Neither USB nor Ethernet are new technologies.
• 405[05:51:08] <cws> Urk: I'm still waiting on the answer to my question.
• 406[05:51:18] <Urk> cws: /media/user/d-live nf 10.8.0 xf amd64/
• 407[05:51:36] <cws> That is not a valid filename.
• 408[05:51:48] <cws> Please download the ISO here. replaced-url
• 409[05:52:14] <Urk> cws: That is already on my memory stick, and I am just trying to copy the firmware, and wifi to a different file system.
• 410[05:52:23] <cws> That's not how this works.
• 411[05:52:30] <cws> Download the ISO that I've linked you to.
• 412[05:52:44] <Urk> The live cd on my boot stick boots right up.
• 413[05:52:53] <Urk> Why redo it?
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• 415[05:52:57] <cws> Okay, again, that's NOT how this works.
• 416[05:53:05] <Urk> cws: So how does it work?
• 417[05:53:08] <cws> So either start following instructions, or you're entirely on your own.
• 418[05:53:23] <cws> Because this whole argumentative thing you've got going is certainly going to go about as well as things have so far.
• 419[05:53:30] <Urk> What flavor of Debian are you running on your XPS 15 7590?
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• 421[05:53:36] <cws> Buster.
• 422[05:53:42] <Urk> stable?
• 423[05:53:53] <cws> "Current Debian release is buster"
• 424[05:53:58] <budlight> hello
• 425[05:54:17] <cws> Urk: So, going to start doing things the right way, or is flailing in the dark your preference?
• 426[05:54:34] <Urk> The only thing I am trying to do tonight is copy some firmware to a partition. Its a bit late so I am gong to take up this discussion tomorrow. Much appreciate your help.
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• 428[05:54:41] <cws> That's not how firmware works.
• 429[05:54:55] <cws> Which is what we've been trying to get through to you for a while, now.
• 430[05:55:04] <cws> Download the non-free ISO, and write it as-is to your USB media.
• 431[05:55:22] <cws> Boot that and go forth. That's the fix. Stop trying to do your own thing, because it's not going to work.
• 432[05:57:54] <jmcnaught> Urk: last time you installed Debian to this 7590 you said that you tried the ISO that already includes firmware, but now I wonder if that was just confusion on your part.
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• 434[05:58:25] <jmcnaught> Urk: you do not need to add firmware to an ISO that already includes firmware, that does not makes sense.
• 435[05:59:34] * cws &
• 436[05:59:47] <Urk> jmcnaught: Not sure, but the Intel Linux driver wouldn't work because there was no firmware.
• 437[06:00:07] <oxek> "Intel Linux driver"
• 438[06:00:09] <Urk> jmcnaught: Other postings on the net indicate you can not install the OS by wifi.
• 439[06:00:20] <oxek> Urk: you're making it very difficult to help you, since you're not being clear enough.
• 440[06:00:44] <Urk> oxek: I'm taking this discussion up tomorrow because I am going to bed. Really appreciate your help.
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• 575[09:18:44] <srged> my cabled desktop has 450Mbps and y wifi laptop has 48 Mbps. is that normal ?
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• 583[09:32:08] <jim> srged, depends on the devices
• 584[09:33:06] <jim> (that's not all it depends on, but those are probably first in line)
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• 588[09:38:25] <ratrace> srged: yes. replaced-url
• 589[09:39:40] <ratrace> and it further depends on geometry of the space where the wifi signal is broadcast, materials, interference with other EM emissions, etc....
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• 788[14:28:29] <Tha-Fox> hi! could someone help me by telling, what I should do to get /usr/bin/mail to point to a working MTA in my Debian buster server? I have msmtp and msmtp-mta installed. I tried to installing bsd-mailx and mailutils, but neither created /usr/bin/mail. the problem is that for example logwatch can't send periodic emails, unless I run it with cron one-liner that uses msmtp directly.
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• 793[14:32:29] <Linuks> after the latest update when I disconnect and reconnect a USB device, it doesn't reconnect the device anymore. I need to reboot to enable the keyboard and mouse. How can I fix this? Thank you!
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• 796[14:37:06] <dvs> Tha-Fox: update-alternatives --config mailx
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• 798[14:38:59] <f8e4> how to update packages with gui?
• 799[14:39:06] <f8e4> i forgot program, synpatic sth?
• 800[14:39:18] <dvs> synaptic?
• 801[14:39:38] <f8e4> ty
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• 812[14:53:40] <Tha-Fox> dvs: thank you! now I'm able to try both bsd-mailx and mailutils and see, which one fulfills my needs better.
• 813[14:53:49] <dvs> np
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• 823[15:01:02] <themill> Tha-Fox: it's a while since I looked at logwatch, but my recollection is that it wants /usr/sbin/sendmail from any mta, not /usr/bin/mail
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• 834[15:17:03] <ychaouche> hello #debian
• 835[15:17:13] <ychaouche> how do I ask my host to stop doing dhcp queries ?
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• 838[15:19:02] <GNU\colossus> ychaouche, switch your /etc/network/interfaces to static or manual config, and/or make sure to disable DHCP in networkmanager, if you use it
• 839[15:19:22] <ychaouche> done first part, don't know about second part.
• 840[15:19:49] <ychaouche> networkmanager is GUI only or is it used in servers too ?
• 841[15:20:43] <GNU\colossus> you can use NM headless. Red Hat uses it since (I think) EL 8 on server installs, too.
• 842[15:21:38] <dvs> networkmanager has a text interface, too
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• 844[15:24:25] <ychaouche> no /etc/NetworkManager/ on this machine so I guess there's none installed
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• 863[15:41:20] <hdparm> anyone using cde?
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• 865[15:42:24] <ychaouche> hdparm, is that for stats about system performance ?
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• 867[15:43:05] <ychaouche> or is that a desktop environement ?
• 868[15:43:20] <hdparm> common desktop environment
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• 870[15:43:43] <hdparm> default desktop for solaris 10
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• 872[15:45:00] <ychaouche> sends me back 20 years in time ^^'
• 873[15:45:08] <hdparm> yup
• 874[15:45:15] <hdparm> but its beautiful
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• 877[15:45:56] <ychaouche> I wonder if it was the motif toolkit
• 878[15:46:20] <hdparm> based on openmotif i guess
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• 891[16:02:08] <ychaouche> is there a specific file for snmp configuration in debian ?
• 892[16:02:38] <ychaouche> oh apparently it has to be installed
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• 920[16:24:55] <filePeter> Hi, I have rsynced data from one machine to another. On the source machine, however there have been some file that I can’t access: rsync: send_files failed to open "/home/...": Permission denied (13). Is it safe to assume that all the other data has been synchronised? Or does rsync just silently fail und stops?
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• 923[16:30:17] <ratrace> filePeter: no, rsync doesn't stop on first error encountered.
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• 938[16:49:06] <rudi_s> But it will write all errors to stderr.
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• 966[17:35:30] <segamain> IDK if it's a debain problem but: udisk error-quark,0 input output error when I format usb
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• 969[17:36:28] <f-a> hello friendly people
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• 971[17:36:49] <f-a> I have bought some headphones+mic headset for my mobile phone
• 972[17:37:12] <f-a> and near the mic there is a button, and apparently if you press it you can do some stuff on the phone (accept a call, etc.)
• 973[17:37:36] <f-a> Q: how do I know if the button is recognised on my system? (xorg? something else?)
• 974[17:37:39] <f-a> and if so, remap it?
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• 976[17:38:30] <segamain> f-a: stop right there that's not a debian problem, try #android on freenode
• 977[17:38:38] <f-a> it is a debian problem
• 978[17:38:42] <f-a> as
• 979[17:38:56] <f-a> I am using my headphones on Debian 10
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• 981[17:38:59] <f-a> sorry if that was not clear
• 982[17:39:25] <shtrb> f-a, if bluetooth you can use it with your D-E
• 983[17:39:27] <shtrb> *DE
• 984[17:39:48] <f-a> shtrb: no they are wired hps
• 985[17:39:52] <f-a> let me see if I can fish the model
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• 987[17:41:17] <f-a> replaced-url
• 988[17:41:18] <shtrb> If the headset is connected to your pc how does it communicate with your phone ?
• 989[17:41:32] <f-a> sorry I should have been clearer
• 990[17:41:55] <f-a> 1. I see on the phone they send something else than my voice, as I press the button and the phone does something
• 991[17:41:58] <shtrb> If that's usb , can you give us the output of lsusb
• 992[17:42:08] <f-a> 2. if I plug them to the pc, can I get that button to work?
• 993[17:42:23] <f-a> not usb, mic-in hp-out standard headphones, hence me being weirded out
• 994[17:43:08] <shtrb> It could have it's own firmware (many usb headset now have it's own firmware), but as that is not a usb one I have no more information to give you
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• 1000[17:50:53] <f-a> thank you shtrb
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• 1002[17:55:08] <f-a> shtrb: some more careful duckduckgoing and I found replaced-url
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• 1006[17:59:40] <Peyam> Hi. I update my debian xfce and now the desktop disappeared
• 1007[17:59:57] <Peyam> the wallpaper disappeared and can not right click there
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• 1009[18:03:57] <segamain> what mouse do you have
• 1010[18:04:14] <segamain> probably missing or corrupt firmware
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• 1018[18:14:05] <Peyam> hi can someone please help me out?
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• 1029[18:25:56] <filePeter> ratrace, rudi_s: Thanks for your answers two hours ago, regarding rsync.
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• 1032[18:38:26] <shtrb> What would be the proper way to try to perform an authntication on a sim card (EAP_SIM in wpa_supplicant) if the sim card is inside an interface that expose AT command interface to debian ? (Huawei LTE wingle )
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• 1034[18:38:41] <shtrb> (*) I'm trying to use WiFi Calling from linux
• 1035[18:38:57] <thefunkyspaw> Hi all, I'm running Debian Testing w/ Cinnamon DE. It appears that Cinnamon DE is overriding my XKB configuration set via /etc/default/keyboard. Can anyone point me in the direction of docs describing this behavior?
• 1036[18:39:04] <shtrb> !testing
• 1037[18:39:04] <dpkg> Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <bullseye>. See replaced-url
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• 1039[18:39:48] <thefunkyspaw> Oops, thanks for the lead
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• 1042[18:42:40] <segamain> dpkg: are you a bot ?
• 1043[18:42:40] <dpkg> I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse).
• 1044[18:42:57] <segamain> :D
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• 1046[18:44:21] <shtrb> And at that point you have no way of knowing , if that's really a bot or an AI that try to fake and let you think it's just a bot
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• 1093[19:54:20] <ThothK> Hello People
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• 1140[21:03:07] <dostoyevsky> hmmm... I cannot install docker according to the installation description: # apt update # Err:4 replaced-url
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• 1142[21:03:12] <dostoyevsky> (debian buster)
• 1143[21:03:53] <dostoyevsky> (error message for `apt update' is: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 7EA0A9C3F273FCD8)
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• 1146[21:05:03] <jmcnaught> dostoyevsky: don't add the keyring to /usr/share/keyrings, it belongs in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/
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• 1150[21:07:36] <dostoyevsky> jmcnaught: so I changed it: # curl -fsSL replaced-url
• 1151[21:08:08] <dostoyevsky> `apt-get update' -> W: GPG error: replaced-url
• 1152[21:08:12] <dostoyevsky> same error
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• 1154[21:08:27] <dostoyevsky> I guess they broken the key somehow... on the docker side
• 1155[21:08:35] <kouett> hello, I've got a problem with an iscsi target and systemd. systemd tries to mount fs as if it was local, so before starting network and iscsid. adding _netdev and x-systemd-requires in fstab doesn't change anything
• 1156[21:09:01] <kouett> the mountpoint of the iscsi fs is /var
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• 1159[21:09:12] <dostoyevsky> Because I've been using replaced-url
• 1160[21:09:19] <kouett> does anyone here already encountered this problem ?
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• 1171[21:19:32] <kouett> (I don't know if I explained everything clearly enough, tell me if you need more insight)
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• 1205[22:07:05] <ratrace> kouett: what's the exact fstab line you're using? do you have a circular dependency where some services requires paths from that mount point?
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• 1208[22:09:31] <kouett> ratrace, yes I have some services which requires this path (it's /var)
• 1209[22:10:20] <kouett> many blog articles suggest to write a systemd .automount and .mount file for this
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• 1211[22:10:47] <kouett> (that's what I'm testing currently)
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• 1213[22:11:33] <ratrace> technically, fstab is converted to individual .mount units so I'm not sure if that would help. It's more likely that you'll need to tweak those service dependencies to they don't start before the network
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• 1215[22:12:13] <kouett> oh ok I see
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• 1217[22:12:39] <kouett> but the real problem is that systemd doesn't honor the _netdev or x-systemd.requires=iscsid in my fstab
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• 1219[22:13:10] <kouett> (i.e tries to mount the filesystem _before_ iscsid.service is started)
• 1220[22:13:26] <kouett> despite specifying it as dependency
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• 1224[22:15:43] <kouett> ok so my fstab entry is: UUID=(redacted) /var _netdev,x-systemd.after=network-online.target,x-systemd.requires=iscsid.service,ext4 rw 0 2
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• 1244[22:30:02] <kouett> Also when I was using a systemd mount unit I had a 'Failed dependency' on it but I can't find why
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• 1255[22:38:02] <kouett> basically the boot sequence is: systemd tries to mount /dev/sda1, it timeouts
• 1256[22:38:02] <kouett> then starts network and iscsid
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• 1258[22:38:39] <kouett> both with a mountfile and fstab
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• 1261[22:41:13] <kouett> ratrace, I know this issue is pretty specific but I'd like some pointers on how I could debug systemd boot process to see what's going on with deps (eventually submit a bug report to debian if needed)
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• 1281[23:11:46] <argusBR> how to solve problem replaced-url
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• 1291[23:19:37] <oerheks> the error is clear; run a fsck on sda2 ?
• 1292[23:19:43] <oerheks> with a live iso
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• 1296[23:22:08] <sadako> How do I fix that my syslog isn't rotating? It's like 5GB right now and my system is only 9GB total.
• 1297[23:23:01] <sadako> I have it set up in logrotate already.
• 1298[23:23:29] <sadako> Well wait, is there a way to see when the file was last rotated, or created? I see a Mar 21 date on ls for it but that's probably last modified.
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• 1303[23:26:25] <sadako> I added 'maxsize 100M' hopefully that does it.
• 1304[23:28:00] <sadako> do I need logrotate in cron or something for it to be running?
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• 1307[23:30:19] <sadako> it's in cron daily. I guess that's okay.
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• 1309[23:31:43] <sadako> Okay I ran `sudo /usr/sbin/logrotate --force /etc/logrotate.conf` and now the 5GB file is syslog.1. How do I make that one be compressed?
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• 1313[23:32:54] <sadako> I have compress and dailycompress options in the syslog block already.
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• 1322[23:40:21] <ivan_wagner_ml> is there a way to allow access to newer versions of Emacs from more uptodate distro version such as bullseye, besides compiling it by myself before distro upgrade? I'm asking particularly for emacs package. Reporting from 10 buster.
• 1323[23:42:00] <jmcnaught> ,v emacs
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• 1325[23:42:35] <jmcnaught> ivan_wagner_ml: the bot appears to be gone but emacs 27 is in buster-backports: replaced-url
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• 1327[23:46:22] <ivan_wagner_ml> thank you, it worked
• 1328[23:46:59] <ratrace> kouett: that's an invalid fstab you pasted.
• 1329[23:47:58] <ratrace> it's missing filesystem. and srsly? redacting fs UUID? that's a random string you know. zero privacy or security issues.
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• 1333[23:49:23] <kouett> yeah, redacting the disk uuid was maybe a bit pointless :p
• 1334[23:49:38] <cws> It was so pointless that it made a sphere.
• 1335[23:49:49] <cws> ;)
• 1336[23:50:06] <kouett> I must have failed pasting, cos mount -a works...
• 1337[23:50:24] <kouett> I'll try tomorrow with fsck field to 0
• 1338[23:50:27] <ratrace> cws: lol
• 1339[23:51:50] <kouett> I suspect fsck field to 2 may be the source of the problem (every tutorial I see has fsck field to 0)
• 1340[23:52:12] <cws> 2 is a valid entry.
• 1341[23:52:25] <ratrace> and completely irrelevant for the problem
• 1342[23:53:00] <ratrace> kouett: I'd add "nofail" to that list of options so that the boot doesn't hang up on failure. then when it boots, look through the journal for any issues involving the mountpoint, they're most likely logged.
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• 1344[23:54:31] <ratrace> afk
• 1345[23:54:36] <kouett> ok, thanks ratrace and cws for your help, I'll do that and keep you updated (I'll test this tomorrow)
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