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38 [00:28:14] <jhutchins> jochum: That might be adding them to a file in /e/a/sources.list.d/ - or it may be broken on purpose, because you generally don't want people adding arbitrary repos.
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87 [01:18:10] <Zhwo> hallo
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89 [01:19:03] <petn-randall> hi Zhwo
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93 [01:19:25] <Zhwo> hallo , some one help
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95 [01:19:39] <abrotman> help with whta?
96 [01:20:18] <sussudio> why is some retard with nick "harrycross2" /msg'ing me with shit?
97 [01:20:35] <derpadmin> massive spam
98 [01:20:35] <abrotman> sussudio: it's freenode, you know how spam works
99 [01:21:01] <Zhwo> how to allow replaced-url
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101 [01:21:14] <abrotman> allow them to what?
102 [01:21:16] <sussudio> it seems to be under the illusion that PM'ing me is the same as a windows command prompt or something.
103 [01:21:16] <Zhwo> work ongly replaced-url
104 [01:21:31] <Zhwo> li replaced-url
105 [01:21:36] <jochum> sussudio: there's a shit poster here, ignore him
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108 [01:21:47] <jochum> sussudio: lots of people reported to #freenode
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111 [01:24:42] <sussudio> oh, ukrainian IP. wonder why someone hasn't "accidently" used a shovel on their internet cables yet.
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116 [01:30:21] <SponiX> what is the command to avoid /msg spam again ? like /mode sponix +R ?
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119 [01:30:43] <sussudio> it's not +r, i did +R and it did something.
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121 [01:31:18] <jochum> I report and delete such stuff
122 [01:31:24] <jochum> No need for +R for me :)
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124 [01:32:42] <jochum> sussudio: you still have that shit? #freenode wants em
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127 [01:36:01] <SponiX> jochum: why is that ?
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129 [01:36:34] <jochum> I asked them if they still need reports, they said yes.
130 [01:36:59] <sussudio> how do you "report"
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132 [01:37:42] <jochum> I did by copying whois + spam contents to pastebin -> #freenode
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135 [01:38:22] <jochum> the IRC ID i mean by whois
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144 [01:45:14] <jochum> More shit
145 [01:45:19] <abrotman> sussudio: it's the +g usermode
146 [01:45:29] <jochum> #freenode -> <glguy> Reports can be made directly into #freenode today
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149 [01:46:35] <sussudio> is there really an irc client that would interpret javascript or act as a command prompt?
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151 [01:46:41] <sussudio> and if so, why?
152 [01:47:20] <jochum> replaced-url
153 [01:47:26] <sney> there have been scripting security holes in the past. there are also bots that can accept commands for file sharing or other stuff.
154 [01:47:36] <sney> but this is just griefers, they are trying to make your irc experience bad
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156 [01:49:38] <sussudio> they're not even kawfee level is making my irc experience bad.
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218 [02:42:53] <un214> so much time lost on predictable network device names
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220 [02:44:50] <un214> so I've got an old install with a device name pinned by mac address
221 [02:45:34] <un214> I've heard that's going away; what's the path back to sanity? predictable names bounce around a lot
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223 [02:47:19] <sney> afaik this is the current method, replaced-url
224 [02:47:31] <sney> scroll down for examples. #2 is essentially a mac address pin
225 [02:48:24] <un214> I'm not using systemd due to critical-level bugs
226 [02:48:36] <un214> apt-get install anything -> kills X
227 [02:50:10] <sney> that's a helpful thing to mention first, since debian ships with systemd by default. in that case, though, whatever you've heard was "going away" may still be the correct approach.
228 [02:50:33] <un214> I have a 70-persistent-net-rules that pins eth0 by mac address
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230 [02:51:40] <un214> this page says it's going away replaced-url
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234 [02:53:09] <un214> udev is being used as normal; I thought udev handles this stuff
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236 [02:54:09] <sney> right. udev and systemd share an upstream. the systemd .link scheme is what freedesktop wants users to do. since you have udev, but not systemd, you'll have to stick with the udev approach that you're already using.
237 [02:54:50] <un214> actual bug in systemd: it can't handle two devices in /dev with the same major and minor numbers
238 [02:55:27] <un214> and it's too smart for its own britches and believes the root device is down
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240 [02:56:44] <sney> systemd has flaws for sure, if you find a bug make sure to report it.
241 [02:57:00] <un214> the package maintainer closed it
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245 [02:59:39] <sney> ok, well there's nothing #debian can do about that. in the meantime, just because freedesktop is telling everyone to move to .link schemes doesn't mean they'll break compatibility with udev rules, which are used for a lot of stuff
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396 [06:06:45] <cluelessperson> is there a way to set up access to a shell from a docker container to the host?
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398 [06:08:00] <sney> you want something inside the container to be able to execute arbitrary commands on the host?
399 [06:08:15] <sney> congratulations, you no longer need a container. just run your service on the host itself.
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410 [06:34:02] <cluelessperson> sney, please don't twist what I said.
411 [06:34:18] <cluelessperson> I'm using a deployment system that deploys docker containers, one of which is a monitoring service.
412 [06:34:34] <cluelessperson> The monitoring container needs to be able to run certain commands on the host, that's all.
413 [06:34:41] <sney> no it doesn't, use nrpe for that
414 [06:34:43] <cluelessperson> No, I don't want to make another deployment system outside of docker.
415 [06:35:18] <sney> ,i nagios-nrpe-server
416 [06:35:25] <judd> Package nagios-nrpe-server (net, optional) in buster/amd64: Nagios Remote Plugin Executor Server. Version: 3.2.1-2; Size: 360.8k; Installed: 466k; Homepage: replaced-url
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418 [06:35:50] <cluelessperson> sney, So that's a tool to do literally what I described, but I need something that works across docker, and for something that isn't nagios.
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420 [06:36:38] <sney> if there's a docker-specific thing for this, #docker should know about it.
421 [06:37:05] <sney> for everyone else: nagios checks are perl and shell scripts and can be used by basically anything.
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424 [06:37:33] <cluelessperson> sney, I'm not asking for something in docker, I'm asking for how to do something like provide a pipe or shell to a remote host into a docker container
425 [06:37:36] <cluelessperson> maybe like through a socket file
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429 [06:40:47] <sney> "I'm not asking for something in docker, I'm asking for how to do something specifically with docker containers" ssh with pubkey auth over the network bridge that your container uses, and ssh as an account that can only run the specific commands
430 [06:41:09] <sney> if you want the docker answer, ask in #docker. the latter is how we do it with tricky embedded stuff that can't run nrpe.
431 [06:41:44] <cluelessperson> I'm thinking about doing that, that seems one way to approach it.
432 [06:42:47] <sney> using the network stack is the way to have containers talk to each other/the hypervisor without eliminating the benefits of containerization.
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444 [07:03:17] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> Why does msmtp have such a restrictive AppArmor profile?
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446 [07:03:50] <Aurora_v_kosmose> I looked into its debian git repo, but nothing regarding the reasoning is in any of the logs, news, or READMEs
447 [07:06:08] <sney> there's a CVE from 2019 that might be related, or it's just extra caution because smtp is not a very secure protocol
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454 [07:11:23] <rue_bed> after an upgrade, I cant open X programs as users other than the user who started X, even after doing an xhost +
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457 [07:11:27] <rue_bed> anyone know whats up?
458 [07:11:40] <rue_bed> someone dial some security up somewhere?
459 [07:12:06] <rue_bed> I'v tried to export DISPLAY as the local IP and 127.0.0.1
460 [07:12:37] <Aurora_v_kosmose> Wasn't there some .Xauth cookie or something required for that?
461 [07:13:03] <rue_bed> I see tmp.serverauth~random~
462 [07:13:17] <rue_bed> it didn't used to be required
463 [07:13:27] <nkuttler> dpkg: mit-magic-cookie
464 [07:13:27] <dpkg> mit-magic-cookie is a key that a client application is required to possess in order to use your X11 display. Running xhost + removes this requirement which is why you should never use <xhost>. The xauth utility is in the xauth package (formerly xbase-clients) and is used to manipulate the mit-magic-cookie; ask me about <mit-magic-cookie export>. For other, easier ways of running apps as another user, ask me about <root x>.
465 [07:13:31] <Aurora_v_kosmose> I never really looked into it because local ssh-x-forwarding was easier.
466 [07:13:36] <Aurora_v_kosmose> s/local/localhost/
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469 [07:17:40] <rue_bed> I dont actually see the answer
470 [07:18:07] <Aurora_v_kosmose> sney: I suppose it's preventive, all the CVEs related to crypto verification problems.
471 [07:18:37] <rue_bed> I did xhost + tho
472 [07:18:43] <rue_bed> is that invalid now?
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475 [07:19:18] <sney> xhost has always been considered a security hole, maybe someone finally closed it
476 [07:19:24] <Aurora_v_kosmose> I have no idea. Someone might come around that knows, eventually. You could also try the debian-users mailing list.
477 [07:19:27] <rue_bed> I have a trusted network I dont need inter-machine securrity
478 [07:19:32] <sney> 'apt changelog' or the BTS would probably say for sure
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481 [07:20:54] <rue_bed> upgrading sucks
482 [07:20:56] <rajivmars> hi all! i wanted to upgrade from debian stable to unstable. is there any security issues while using debian unstable as compared to debian stable?
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484 [07:21:26] <rue_bed> I'm just trying to fix nfs that doesn't work anymore after the upgrade and I'm being given the runaround cuase I cant edit a f***** file as root
485 [07:21:37] <rue_bed> which I have to because of .. and .... and ....
486 [07:21:39] <rue_bed> ARG
487 [07:22:25] <sney> rajivmars: unstable is not directly handled by the debian security team, but in practice, security fixes tend to be uploaded around the same time as stable. for general sid usage tips, see replaced-url
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489 [07:23:37] <rue_bed> adding 127.0.0.1 and the local IP specifically by xhost isn't working either
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491 [07:23:48] <sussudio> stable to unstable isn't an upgrade.
492 [07:25:08] <rue_bed> how do I know WHY a program cant open an X display?
493 [07:25:25] <sney> program logs, X logs
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495 [07:28:41] <Aurora_v_kosmose> The latest change to xorg is two months old.
496 [07:28:56] <Aurora_v_kosmose> And shouldn't have anything to do with xhost
497 [07:28:58] <rue_bed> nothing in them tho
498 [07:29:05] <rue_bed> maybe xorg is a dead project
499 [07:29:14] <rue_bed> kde is now completely taken over
500 [07:29:25] <rue_bed> its the gui, its the lib, its the kernel
501 [07:29:27] <Aurora_v_kosmose> Hopefully, long-term, yes, but alas wayland is... imperfect.
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503 [07:29:30] <rue_bed> its _all_ the daemons
504 [07:29:40] <Aurora_v_kosmose> I'm personally rather interested in Arcan.
505 [07:30:37] <rue_bed> there is nothing telling me why the display cant be opened
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507 [07:31:06] <Aurora_v_kosmose> You'll probably have to turn on debugging for everything related
508 [07:31:24] <rue_bed> someone must know something
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510 [07:31:36] <cluelessperson> is there a way to forward a shell or connection to another machine?
511 [07:31:45] <rue_bed> how about the local machine
512 [07:31:51] <rue_bed> lets try local first
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514 [07:32:10] <rue_bed> the securrity is denied because the source is not trusted
515 [07:32:13] <Aurora_v_kosmose> rue_bed: I think you should ask on the mailing list too. Surely you're not the only one who still used that.
516 [07:32:27] <rue_bed> this "localhost" thing is trying to hack you!
517 [07:32:50] <rue_bed> and I cant even open an editor
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519 [07:32:54] <Aurora_v_kosmose> Well, pretty much any malware payload would be coming from localhost too.
520 [07:33:33] <cluelessperson> rue_bed, sure, if I can do it local that's fine to
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522 [07:34:18] <behappycat> Why do i get different base64 strings for the same value on debian with echo "value" | base64 and within burp suite
523 [07:34:34] <rue_bed> if i manually start X without an --auth option, none of this will be a problem will it?
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527 [07:35:20] <rue_bed> its like freaking debian forcing --nolisten on the freaking x server
528 [07:35:25] <rue_bed> like ARG
529 [07:35:51] <rue_bed> still trying to track down and kill the --nolisten flag
530 [07:35:59] <rue_bed> I think I have to modify a binary tho
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532 [07:36:24] <rue_bed> maybe compile a ver of X11 that has the option renamed so its invalid
533 [07:36:26] <rue_bed> ARG
534 [07:36:28] <nkuttler> behappycat: first guess would be this "burp suite" is either modifying the input or has its own base64 thing
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538 [07:38:42] <behappycat> @nkuttler thanks, i guess i gound the issue. my string had a "!" char in it, ran it again with single quotes instead of double and it gave me the same output now
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541 [07:40:15] <nkuttler> behappycat: interesting, that should actually have shown you an error
542 [07:40:52] <nkuttler> in a normal shell env that is
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558 [07:55:01] <Aurora_v_kosmose> rue_bed: Your display-manager/login is probably what starts it.
559 [07:55:28] <Aurora_v_kosmose> lightdm, which I use, apparently uses -nolisten
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591 [08:27:19] <rue_bed> I use startx
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593 [08:28:02] <rue_bed> I think its woven into an intermediate script, but I cant find it with grep yet
594 [08:28:24] <rue_bed> you know, 8 hours is probably enough time to grep every file on the machine to find it
595 [08:29:04] <Aurora_v_kosmose> grep isn't much slower than your drive's speed. So it could be fairly fast.
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597 [08:29:52] <rue_bed> then atleast I'd know where its comming from
598 [08:30:14] <Aurora_v_kosmose> I wasn't saying not to do it. Just how to evaluate how long it'd take.
599 [08:30:36] <Aurora_v_kosmose> Which unless you've got some >8TB HDD, should be at most a few hours.
600 [08:30:43] <rue_bed> I got cha
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602 [08:31:00] <rue_bed> no, I limit install partitions to about 40G tops
603 [08:31:11] <Aurora_v_kosmose> Convenient-enough, in this case.
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607 [08:33:26] <rue_bed> I wonder if I restart X without the -auth argument, if my inter-user issue will go away
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621 [08:42:10] <rue_bed> after I upgarded the laptop, the volume control keys dont work either :/
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625 [08:43:18] <rue_bed> I dont even know what thats part of
626 [08:44:04] <rue_bed> showkeys proves they issue keyboard codes
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628 [08:44:31] <rue_bed> so, I wonder if that was handled by a kernel driver
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630 [08:44:47] <rue_bed> I dont think I had to be in X for it to work
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634 [08:46:45] <cluelessperson> I'm looking for a way to forward a shell through a sock file
635 [08:46:49] <cluelessperson> or unix socket
636 [08:47:16] <rue_bed> like ssh?
637 [08:47:46] <rue_bed> oh, do you mean a shell that was already being used?
638 [08:47:56] <rue_bed> the program is called "screen"
639 [08:49:01] <cmburnett> tmux too!
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642 [08:49:56] <rue_bed> oooh, the upgrade removed alsa
643 [08:49:58] <rue_bed> ok
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649 [08:52:47] <cluelessperson> rue_bed, like provide an already logged in shell for a user on a unix-socket
650 [08:55:53] <rue_bed> hmm
651 [08:56:19] <rue_bed> so kinda a telnet, but not to login, but bash directly
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653 [08:58:54] <rue_bed> check the docs for telnetd, see if it can use bash as its shell, instead of login
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658 [09:06:25] <dff> morning all, when i boot debian 10 the grub slash screen is low resolution, if i enter the bios prior to boot and exit with no changes, the grub splash screen is high resolution
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661 [09:09:42] <dff> my config -> replaced-url
662 [09:10:44] <dff> my goal is to for grub to load the boot options in high resolution, (GRUB_GFXMODE=2560x1140)
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664 [09:10:50] <cmburnett> christ is it morning already
665 [09:11:03] <cmburnett> i think you're looking for 2560x1440 instead
666 [09:11:04] <wsky> yeah vodka time
667 [09:11:13] <dff> oh
668 [09:11:19] <dff> nice catch
669 [09:11:21] <dff> thanks
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672 [09:12:24] <dff> that solved it
673 [09:12:26] <dff> :)
674 [09:12:31] <cmburnett> no problem brother! try that to see if it's the issue maybe? out of proportion screens screw things up
675 [09:12:40] <cmburnett> glad that helped!!
676 [09:12:43] <dff> :D
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692 [09:31:58] <cluelessperson> rue_bed, yes exactly, I'd like to have this system offer a root shell to a docker container.
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694 [09:32:04] <cluelessperson> through like a unix socket
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753 [10:40:57] <dff> looking for the simplest of tools to ping an ip and send an alert of host is unresponsive.
754 [10:41:21] <ratrace> dff: define "send an alert"
755 [10:42:33] <dff> ratrace: im open, but an email client would be neat, enter credentials and mx
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758 [10:43:07] <dff> stand alone smtp gets block
759 [10:43:07] <ratrace> dff: well there's a number of monitoring tools you can use, but if it's only PING you're after.... use one of the free services, like pingdom.com
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761 [10:43:10] <dff> but my provider
762 [10:43:20] <dff> but=by
763 [10:43:24] <jelly> is the machine on public network or private
764 [10:43:51] <ratrace> if you want more than just that, there's nagios and munin, which can do alerts. there's also zabbix, prometheus, ... but I don't know their alerting capabilities
765 [10:44:05] <dff> i run librenms from my private network, which prometheus and alerta as backups
766 [10:44:12] <dff> what i need to monitor is if wan fails
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768 [10:44:33] <ratrace> dff: script a sensor for it? should be dead easy
769 [10:44:35] <dff> from -within-
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773 [10:45:41] <jelly> and you can decouple "credentials and mx" to a MTA if your tools know how to send mail locally
774 [10:46:02] <jelly> msmtp-mta is supposed to be a-okay
775 [10:46:10] <ratrace> ping -q -c 1 $IP > /dev/null ; if [$? -ne 0]; then do_my_alert_thing() ; fi
776 [10:46:35] <jelly> don't check exit status twice
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778 [10:46:50] <ratrace> right, 'tis just a conceptual example
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780 [10:47:08] <jelly> if ! ping -q -c3 -i1 $IP > /dev/null; then do your thing; fi
781 [10:47:31] <ratrace> optimializiatiations
782 [10:47:32] <dff> mail server is cloud hosted, if my wan goes down alerts from inside my network wont get sent.
783 [10:48:04] <dff> i dont know how to script in bash or anything else for that matter :/
784 [10:48:19] <jelly> dff, and you don't have a 3g modem inside to send an sms or something?
785 [10:48:34] <dff> jelly: nope, this is a homelab
786 [10:48:39] <ratrace> thing is, if you script a sensor like this for any of the monitoring tools you use, you don't have to run any alerts, just have the sensor express/print/return the "bad" value
787 [10:49:01] <dff> ratrace: how would i get alerted if im off site?
788 [10:49:06] <ratrace> the monitoring tools should then be configured to alert on bad sensor value, out of range values, etc...
789 [10:50:13] <jelly> dff, assuming you have a machine on outside that is able to ping your static WAN IP or stable host name, you can put something like that ping in a cron job or systemd timer unit.
790 [10:50:14] <ratrace> dff: with munin at least, that I use, the alert is any command or shell script you give it, so it's easy to do something like sendmail -f herpderp@hostname.domain.tld < [...short formatted notification mail with a few simple headers ...]
791 [10:50:34] <ratrace> dff: then you can have dma (dragonfly mail agent) configured with an external MTA +
792 [10:50:38] <ratrace> SMTP credentials for actual delivery
793 [10:50:42] <jelly> dma is also nice.
794 [10:51:08] <ratrace> (and I missed the recipient addr in the sendmail line, but you get the geist of it, I hope)
795 [10:51:09] <jelly> in fact I forgot I preferred it now for nullmailer setups.
796 [10:51:18] <ratrace> dma rules
797 [10:51:20] <dff> thanks, ill look into it
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799 [10:54:16] <jelly> still, if you have dma configured you can use mailx or even mutt and not have to write all the headers yourself
800 [10:54:54] <ratrace> at minimum you just need From:, To: and Subject:
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802 [10:54:58] <jelly> echo "ping $IP failed" | mailx -s "ping $IP failed" recipient.address@example.org
803 [10:55:43] <jelly> and if you give /usr/sbin/sendmail just those chances are the mail is going to be detected as spam
804 [10:56:14] <ratrace> heads up tho, if you install mailutils for mailx, make SURE you install dma before or at the same time, otherwise you get exim pulled in...
805 [10:56:16] <jelly> mailx will generate Date properly, possibly Message-ID depending on which mailx
806 [10:56:36] <ratrace> well, true. I'm used to internal MTAs that won't tag that as spam
807 [10:56:45] <jelly> the choice of default MTA in Debian is... iffy
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809 [10:57:08] * ratrace hands jelly an Understatement of the Week award for the classification of "iffy" for Exim.
810 [10:57:16] <ratrace> and it's barely wednesday!
811 [10:57:21] <jelly> but it's just a default, much like Gnome
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813 [10:57:50] <ratrace> yes but it's one of those you have to be careful as various tools unobviously pull it in..... disk health? no problem I'll jus....... wth, whole exim!?
814 [10:58:02] <jelly> the light one.
815 [10:58:11] <ratrace> (so one has to remember to eitehr set up dma or sumfin, or --no-install-recommends)
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817 [10:58:26] <jelly> of course if you want cron you're going to LOVE exim!
818 [10:58:38] <jelly> ^_^
819 [10:58:52] <ratrace> jelly: hmmm?
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826 [11:02:37] <ratrace> jelly: are you implying hard dependency there?
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837 [11:14:02] <ratrace> -ftrivial-auto-var-init is one of those "well, duh" things it only took until 2021 to add to gcc.... by oracle no less.
838 [11:14:11] <ratrace> oops, ECHAN
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851 [11:20:19] <dka> I have an issue with /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules, the rule I created for my 3G modem is supposed to set it to a fixed /dev/tty, however, this fix did not seems to fix it as my server lost the mount again
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864 [11:29:19] <ratrace> dka: well, what's the rule
865 [11:29:50] <dka> It's `SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="05c6", ATTRS{idProduct}=="6000", SYMLINK+="mobile"`
866 [11:29:59] <dka> both ids are verified with lsusb
867 [11:30:22] <dka> I just deleted manually the symlink and recreated it, but that's not a satisfying response as I don't get why it got unsync at first.
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872 [11:33:23] <ratrace> dka: what does dmesg say about that device? was it unplugged physically? udev shouldn't just modify a dev node without an event
873 [11:33:32] <ratrace> or are you talking about the node not even being created on boot?
874 [11:33:51] <dka> idk, it's a server and it's on 24h, since last configuration it alwways assigned the right tty device
875 [11:34:08] <dka> so I believe the usb just unplug/replug randomly while it's on, and I already had the issue before assigning this rule
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877 [11:34:24] <dka> it's just that with this fix, I was completely satisfied for a longer period until now
878 [11:34:25] <ratrace> what does dmesg say about the device
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882 [11:39:40] <dka> It says this : replaced-url
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892 [11:44:12] <ratrace> dka: I'd go with SUBSYSTEM="usb" for starters, and then you can test it live by replugging the device. I'm not quite sure what the problem you have is. the device could be flakey and disconnect randomly, and there's nothing you can do except get a new one .. or the problem is in the symlink not being recreated?
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898 [11:51:42] <oerheks> SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="05c6", ATTR{idProduct}=="1000", RUN+="/usr/sbin/usb_modeswitch -W -v 05c6 -p 1000 -K" found on ##replaced-url
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916 [12:03:20] <ratrace> oerheks: ah modeswitch.... one of those things that's both storage and modem?
917 [12:04:13] <oerheks> indeed, usually for windows drivers
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920 [12:04:50] <ratrace> right
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1040 [13:55:56] <jelly> not hard, but still Recommends
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1042 [13:57:35] <dka> what does that change to use `SYBSYSTEM=="usb"` instead of `tty` ?
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1044 [13:58:36] <dka> it doesn't look like to be the same product ratrace / oerheks , my product id is 6000 not 1000
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1079 [14:29:00] <Franciman> Hi, how can I see if my internal microphone is recognized by the system?
1080 [14:29:02] <Franciman> I use alsa
1081 [14:29:08] <Franciman> (i.e. no pulseaudio)
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1084 [14:30:37] <qman__> alsamixer
1085 [14:30:49] <jelly> hmm,, arecord -l ?
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1087 [14:32:15] <jelly> F4 in alsamixer will show just the recording devices
1088 [14:33:11] <Franciman> still it does not work
1089 [14:33:12] <Franciman> hmmm
1090 [14:33:13] <Franciman> thanks
1091 [14:33:22] <Franciman> I mean firefox does not report the device
1092 [14:33:26] <Franciman> even if alsamixer shows it
1093 [14:33:42] <jelly> perhaps firefox needs pulseaudio these days?
1094 [14:33:44] <Franciman> if I try arecord and try to record something it records the silence
1095 [14:33:52] <jelly> does playback work in it?
1096 [14:34:29] <Franciman> yes
1097 [14:34:37] <Franciman> there must be something wrong
1098 [14:34:43] <Franciman> it used to work, even yesterday
1099 [14:34:46] <Franciman> today something has gone wrong
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1119 [14:55:28] <shibboleth> can i elect to install "testing" instead from stable boot/install-media?
1120 [14:58:40] <jelly> no, you can install a minimal stable and then do a release upgrade to testing
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1122 [15:00:05] <jelly> Franciman, it's possible some other app has already bound the device but then arecord would maybe throw an error
1123 [15:00:23] <jelly> or it's possible you got a kernel update and the new kernel is slightly broken
1124 [15:00:28] <Franciman> jelly, thanks
1125 [15:00:30] <Franciman> I found the problem
1126 [15:00:37] <Franciman> alsamixer had capture set for headphones
1127 [15:00:42] <Franciman> and in fact headphones did not work
1128 [15:00:43] <Franciman> :P
1129 [15:01:46] <Franciman> phew
1130 [15:01:57] <Franciman> debian ftw, forever
1131 [15:02:00] <Franciman> thanks for the help
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1143 [15:08:49] <wyre> could I set up a Debian installation to run under an overlayfs?
1144 [15:09:56] <Mister00X> Isn't that wat the live images do?
1145 [15:10:18] <wyre> Mister00X, yes, something like that
1146 [15:12:08] <Mister00X> I think it is generally possible (e. g. the live images) but idk how one does this.
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1189 [15:50:35] <Kobaz> what's the package to dpkg-reconfigure that controlls what happens on pam login... i remember seeing options like, create entry in systemd etc on login
1190 [15:50:38] <Kobaz> bunch of options
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1204 [16:07:39] <shtrb> How does apt decide of "unused kernels"
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1213 [16:15:50] <goose> Just did a fresh install of Debian, and it appears that /usr/sbin is not in the $PATH of my root user. I can fix it per-session by exporting a new path, but how do I fix it permanently?
1214 [16:16:40] <shtrb> goose, you probably didn't do su -
1215 [16:17:01] <goose> Do I need to, as root?
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1218 [16:18:02] <shtrb> how did you move to root ?
1219 [16:18:56] <shtrb> !su
1220 [16:18:56] <dpkg> extra, extra read all about it, su is switch/set user. It is used to change User ID's and/or gain super user access. Since Debian Buster, "su -" or "su -l" is needed to access programs located in /sbin (see <buster su>). It provides an root environment as if the superuser had logged in directly. See "man su".
1221 [16:18:57] <goose> From my unprivilieged user, 'su'
1222 [16:19:07] <goose> I'm not in sudoers yet, it's a fresh install
1223 [16:19:16] <shtrb> goose, for a while you should be doing "su -" and not su
1224 [16:19:27] <goose> Let me do that, then
1225 [16:19:31] <imMute> Kobaz: are you looking for the PAM configuration in /etc/pam.d/ ? I don't think you use dpkg-reconfigure to change that...
1226 [16:19:44] <goose> yarp, that fixed it
1227 [16:19:58] <shtrb> !next
1228 [16:19:58] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
1229 [16:20:02] <oxek> I prefer the sytax `su -l`
1230 [16:20:12] <oxek> `su -` confuses me, makes me think of stdin/stdout
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1235 [16:21:23] <shtrb> sorry , NetworkManager just crashed :-(
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1237 [16:22:47] <goose> Thank you shtrb
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1239 [16:24:00] <oxek> shtrb: out of curiosity, why would a NetworkManager crash disconnect you?
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1241 [16:24:39] <oxek> my understanding is that networkmanager just modifies some files, but doesn't touch them afterwards, so even if networkmanager is down, networking still works
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1247 [16:33:24] <jelly> oxek, "su -" IS about stdin and stdout, and in fact the whole terminal :-)
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1249 [16:34:05] <oxek> hmm
1250 [16:35:10] <oxek> maybe you're right. It's not clear to me.
1251 [16:35:43] <oxek> manpage seems to imply that `-, -l, --login` are all equivalent
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1253 [16:36:41] <jelly> they probably are
1254 [16:37:32] <oxek> I can see why the `-` would have some sort of special meaning, for the same reason as to why `echo $0` gives `-bash` for login shells and `bash` for non-login shells
1255 [16:37:59] <oxek> but still don't see how `su -` would be realated to stdin/stdout in terms of the usual piping
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1269 [16:47:00] <slowly_stuck> what's the correct way of persisting an iptables rule on Buster? I want to keep an interface enabld for masquerading through reboot. Should I put something into post-up in /etc/network/interfaces?
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1271 [16:48:19] <imMute> slowly_stuck: netfilter-persistent.
1272 [16:48:56] <imMute> well, iptables-persistent.
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1278 [16:53:12] <Kobaz> imMute: there is a dpkg-reconfigure that does something with /etc/pam.d/ it popped up during a buster upgrade and i can't find which package it is
1279 [16:54:52] <imMute> Kobaz: dpkg -S /etc/pam.d/ will tell you which packages have files in that directory.
1280 [16:54:57] <Kobaz> yeah true
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1282 [16:55:09] <imMute> dpkg.log might have information too, idk.
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1284 [16:55:28] <Kobaz> libpam-runtime
1285 [16:55:42] <Kobaz> 'pam profiles to enable'... i think that's it
1286 [16:56:17] <Kobaz> that did it
1287 [16:56:32] <Kobaz> elogind session management was delaying my ssh logins.. i just turned it off
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1291 [16:58:05] <Kobaz> sshd was timing out on something for about 20 seconds after accepting a connection, and prior to a login shell
1292 [16:58:36] <slowly_stuck> thanks imMute, worked perfectly :)
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1295 [16:59:14] <jelly> ,v elogind
1296 [16:59:17] <judd> Package: elogind on amd64 -- buster: 239.3+20190131-1+debian1; bullseye: 246.9.1-1+debian1; sid: 246.9.1-1+debian1
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1298 [16:59:39] <Kobaz> i had a feeling it was something systemd related
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1303 [17:00:49] <jelly> the version does look systemdy
1304 [17:01:22] <Kobaz> yup
1305 [17:01:35] <jelly> it's... a fork of systemd-logind?
1306 [17:01:42] <jelly> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
1307 [17:01:44] <Kobaz> not sure exactly
1308 [17:01:48] <jelly> why do you have it installed
1309 [17:01:54] <Kobaz> i don't
1310 [17:02:08] <jelly> why DID you have it installed
1311 [17:02:10] <jelly> :-)
1312 [17:02:14] <Kobaz> apt-cache policy elogind elogind:
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1314 [17:02:27] <Kobaz> whole lotta nuttin
1315 [17:02:33] <Kobaz> well i didn't have it installed, but pam was trying to use it
1316 [17:02:51] <jelly> okay, but that pam config didn't appear from thin air
1317 [17:02:55] <Kobaz> right
1318 [17:03:03] <Kobaz> maye it was in there a long time ago
1319 [17:03:09] <jelly> could be
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1321 [17:03:30] <jelly> I think people who don't like systemd try that component
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1323 [17:03:42] <jelly> perhaps you... experimented
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1332 [17:17:47] <slowly_stuck> I have two virtual namespaces and I want to allow some routing between them. I made a veth pair across the interfaces. Do I need to add them to bridges in each namespace also?
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1363 [17:54:28] <hl521> Hey, I'm struggling to figure out why my dkim daemon is failing to start, I check journalctl -xe, and all I see is the following: replaced-url
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1367 [18:00:00] <jhutchins> hl521: Check other logs in /var/log, check dmesg.
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1376 [18:05:33] <hl521> yeah, in daemon.log all it says is "restarted too quickly" and failed with exit code lol
1377 [18:05:44] <hl521> not entirely seeing anything in dmesg give me a sec
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1379 [18:06:46] <slowly_stuck> is there a best-practices way to save and restore network namespaces on reboot?
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1389 [18:15:29] <jhutchins> "restore network namespace" -> 808000 results.
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1395 [18:22:32] <g0zzy> Is it possible to temporarily change the grub default entry and if so, do i do it using grub-set-default?
1396 [18:23:22] <hl521> curious if the socket in /etc/default/opendkim is what's throwing it off replaced-url
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1400 [18:26:06] <jhutchins> g0zzy: I haven't messed with it in a while, but there was an attempt to allow passing a different default to grub when you're rebooting, like lilo can do.
1401 [18:26:26] <jhutchins> g0zzy: Of couse, the simplest thing is to just catch the boot menu and do it there.
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1403 [18:27:23] <g0zzy> jhutchins: That would be great
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1406 [18:28:09] <jhutchins> apropos grub returns grub-reboot, which allows you to set a one-time default.
1407 [18:28:22] <g0zzy> It's certainly not listed in man reboot though :(
1408 [18:29:26] <g0zzy> Ah right. Got it. Do i use an integer?
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1410 [18:30:37] <jhutchins> g0zzy: Dunno, but there's a man page for it.
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1416 [18:36:52] <g0zzy> Thanks. An integer does it
1417 [18:37:40] <somiaj> looks like there is also a grub2-once option that will work with the next reboot
1418 [18:37:59] <somiaj> grub2-once --list, then grub2-once <number>, then reboot
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1420 [18:38:43] <somiaj> hmm, not seeing this in current stable though, guess this isn't in debian yet, let me lookc closer
1421 [18:39:30] <g0zzy> Not yet
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1424 [18:40:34] <somiaj> yea, only seeing grub-reboot
1425 [18:40:43] <g0zzy> But grub-reboot N works fine. Haven't found out if that really hasn't got 'stuck' yet though ;)
1426 [18:41:45] <g0zzy> Yes, NOT stuck! Thanks folks
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1461 [19:14:49] <b00b> why does it take so long for the newest firefox-esr release?
1462 [19:15:41] <greycat> because foxes type very slowly. they have stubby little paws.
1463 [19:15:59] <Kobaz> the lack of opposable thumbs makes life difficult as well
1464 [19:17:38] <b00b> the release was yesterday becuase of several high risk vulnerabilties and theres still no debian package replaced-url
1465 [19:18:29] <b00b> so debian users have to wait one day, or two days or more, before they can do security related stuff like banking and so on
1466 [19:19:14] <rgwu> Does your bank have malware in its JS?
1467 [19:19:34] <Kobaz> feel free to contribute to the package maintenance to get releases out more quickly
1468 [19:19:34] <imMute> [02/24 11:06:27] < j416> yes
1469 [19:19:44] <imMute> oops.
1470 [19:19:48] <b00b> rgwu: how can i know? do you about yours? wich bank has opensource js code?
1471 [19:20:15] <Kobaz> it's all 'open' source
1472 [19:20:20] <rgwu> b00b: Why would an attacker hack you if they've already hacked your bank?
1473 [19:20:25] <Kobaz> load up the debugger and you can see exactly what it's doing
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1475 [19:21:24] <b00b> Kobaz: i think a better solution would be to throw out redundant stuff from debian to strip down the whole repo to things people really need and put the devs from that packages into packages groups like firefox...
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1477 [19:21:51] <b00b> *so
1478 [19:21:58] <greycat> That isn't how Debian works. People are not employed by Debian. They can't be assigned work. They volunteer to work on the packages they know and care about.
1479 [19:22:03] <Kobaz> debian isn't just about making firefox available to the masses...
1480 [19:22:11] <b00b> *sight*
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1482 [19:22:58] <Kobaz> b00b: if you want to make real change, join the mailing list, state your position, see if anyone else will go along with you, and also it helps to offer assistance/contributions for the package if you want to change things
1483 [19:23:09] <b00b> sure the problem is that not just a few devs think its better to fork something a create something pseudo-new then support basic standard stuff..
1484 [19:23:14] <Kobaz> don't just join and complain, no one will take you seriously
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1486 [19:24:06] <b00b> Kobaz: I don't care but I think I can't take debian serious at some point in the fiture anymore... =(
1487 [19:24:08] <Kobaz> if you think you have a better way, (not being sarcastic) please feel free to build that better way (or at least design it) and then submit it for approval
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1489 [19:24:17] <b00b> nevermind
1490 [19:24:22] <b00b> Kobaz: I am not a coder
1491 [19:24:28] <b00b> if I could I would
1492 [19:24:38] <Kobaz> Money also works
1493 [19:24:50] <Kobaz> You can find a coder who shares your view, fund the development, and contribute that way
1494 [19:24:50] <b00b> I already donate monthly
1495 [19:24:56] <jmcnaught> It looks like firefox-esr takes ~15 hours to build, and it needs to be built for unstable before it can be migrated to stable (which requires building again).
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1498 [19:25:19] <jak2000> hi all
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1500 [19:25:31] <thebreadthief> Hi
1501 [19:25:33] <jak2000> i inserted a USB memory how to know the content of this? how to mount?
1502 [19:25:40] <b00b> jmcnaught: ok. where did you get that info?
1503 [19:25:45] <Kobaz> b00b: donations are great, but that's not the same thing as putting together a plan to make a change specifically
1504 [19:25:49] <jmcnaught> b00b: replaced-url
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1506 [19:26:36] <b00b> jmcnaught: that's helpful thx
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1509 [19:27:35] <thebreadthief> Jak2000 Does it show up for you in your file manager?
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1512 [19:28:05] <rgwu> jmcnaught: I don't think the 'for' column is build time.
1513 [19:28:08] <b00b> Kobaz: ah common it's wieldly known that there are to many splitted projects out there and that many people wasting their knowledge and talent by forking something so it has... a different font, new blinky buttons or whatever. oh and a "really cool" new name of course
1514 [19:28:34] <Kobaz> for sure
1515 [19:28:47] <Kobaz> but 'the debian project' has no control of that
1516 [19:28:52] <imMute> jak2000: are you using a GUI desktop? many of them automount USB drives for you.
1517 [19:28:56] <Kobaz> people are doing to do in their spare time what they want to do
1518 [19:29:01] <b00b> I dont think it need some "movement" to change that...
1519 [19:29:11] <jak2000> imMute: replaced-url
1520 [19:29:14] <b00b> Kobaz: yes and they should
1521 [19:29:26] <jmcnaught> rgwu: oh you're right, my mistake
1522 [19:29:31] <b00b> but.. ah however it doesn't help to discuss this... =(
1523 [19:30:09] <imMute> jak2000: I'm guessing no then. /dev/sda is your internal hard drive so /dev/sdb must be the USB drive. you can mount it with something like 'sudo /dev/sdb /mnt'
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1525 [19:30:52] <greycat> you lost the command name, probably mount
1526 [19:31:06] <imMute> oops, yes. 'sudo mount /dev/sdb /mnt'
1527 [19:31:15] <b00b> but when just the linux community would strip down the distributions to, let's say 15 or 20 and work together on it then work splitted on "onehoundredbillion" windows would be nearly already pushed away from desktops
1528 [19:31:18] <rgwu> Isn't it more common to use 'udisksctl' as an unprivileged user these days?
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1530 [19:31:38] <greycat> given that I've never heard of that, I'm gonna guess "no"
1531 [19:31:45] <b00b> nevermind.. I still like debian/devuan it's the best out tehre imho
1532 [19:31:48] <b00b> cya
1533 [19:31:49] <imMute> rgwu: no idea. I usually mount USB drives myself since I dont' use a DE.
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1536 [19:31:56] <greycat> unless some DE does it for you, in which case maybe
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1539 [19:32:36] <rgwu> Lol. i3wm definitely isn't doing it for me. I probably had to add my user to some special group for that to work anyway.
1540 [19:32:52] <jmcnaught> GNOME and KDE both use udisks2, maybe more.
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1543 [19:34:29] <jak2000> imMute: replaced-url
1544 [19:34:36] <jak2000> please can you see?
1545 [19:35:03] <imMute> jak2000: I already looked at that and replied with what you should do.
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1574 [20:00:38] <wisbit> hi guys
1575 [20:00:41] <wisbit> good evening
1576 [20:01:22] <wisbit> any idea what could make desktop icons disappearing when hovering them then immediately reappearing ... flickering in a way
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1578 [20:02:12] <shtrb> you are using nvidia drivers aren't you ?
1579 [20:02:29] <tete_> hi, i am trying to install debian 10 to a VPS from a provider (1blue), but i am facing serious problems. its a kvm virtualization. can someone tell me how to get a more detailed error message than just the red ncurses dialog that an error occured?
1580 [20:02:31] <tete_> some kind of log or so?
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1582 [20:03:23] <tete_> my bad... got some information in /var/log
1583 [20:03:43] <sney> tete_: the debian installer prints errors to tty4, there should be some key combo to get there from your provider's terminal
1584 [20:03:47] <tete_> curious if i somehow can check if the mounted .iso is "ok"
1585 [20:04:00] <tete_> because the errors look very very strange...
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1587 [20:05:21] <wisbit> shtrb, nope
1588 [20:05:38] <sney> cdimage hosts checksums for all debian isos, though I'm not sure how easy it would be to verify the *running* installer
1589 [20:06:12] <wisbit> shtrb, actually yes
1590 [20:06:24] <tete_> i checked the downloaded .iso on my side, there it was ok, but i dont know whats on the hosters side running
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1592 [20:06:42] <tete_> because i always get an error in filezilla, something with tls connection aborted, then it continues
1593 [20:06:49] <shtrb> wisbit, I was getting the same issue, you need to change version of the driver
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1595 [20:07:35] <tete_> i have errors in that log like: cdrom-retriever: warning: File /cdrom/dists/buster/main/debian-installer/binary-amd64/Packages does not exist
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1597 [20:08:09] <shtrb> wisbit, and you are using gtk apps , expect non withrow issues too
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1602 [20:10:51] <sney> tete_: that does sound like a mangled installer. what iso are you using?
1603 [20:10:57] <wisbit> shtrb, understood, that being said, it's gonna be lots of manipulations, just for flickering desktop icons when hovered
1604 [20:11:19] <jak2000> imMute sdb 8:16 0 931.5G 0 disk isnt my memory :(
1605 [20:11:37] <tete_> sney, i first tried the netinst iso, but because the hoster somehow has no internet connection during installation (dont ask me.. sounds crazy), i thought i'll go with the dvd1 iso then i can at least install opensshd and configure the other stuff later on
1606 [20:11:50] <tete_> but yea, guess whatever i upload just gets partially destroyed
1607 [20:12:17] <shtrb> wisbit, it's closed source, we can't do a lot with that \_()_?
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1609 [20:14:26] <greycat> jak2000: try "sudo lsblk" or "sudo fdisk -l" to see what's available
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1618 [20:18:40] <jak2000> greycat: replaced-url
1619 [20:18:55] <jak2000> its? /dev/sda2 1874485246 1953523711 79038466 37.7G 5 Extended ?
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1621 [20:20:49] <thebreadthief> Jak2000 it looks like that's the swap partition? Does that change if you unplug the USB drive?
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1624 [20:21:13] <jak2000> ok wait
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1628 [20:24:30] <jak2000> greycat, thebreadthief: replaced-url
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1640 [20:31:49] <thebreadthief> jak2000, so that link is after you unplugged the usb I assume? Do you have a desktop gui installed?
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1642 [20:32:11] <jak2000> created a directory /media/usb1
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1646 [20:33:21] <jak2000> thebreadthief yes
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1648 [20:34:08] <thebreadthief> I would install gnome-disk-utility in that case - it should show the disks connected and will allow you to mount them etc
1649 [20:34:14] <hispeed> Hi, can someone explain me why debian has a keyboard layout which is called: Schweizerisches Französisch (Swiss French) and one called: (Swiss-German) ?
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1652 [20:35:24] <hispeed> this is something i really don't understand
1653 [20:35:39] <freem> are you Swiss?
1654 [20:35:57] <freem> If not, what do you not understand?
1655 [20:36:18] <jak2000> thebreadthief: replaced-url
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1657 [20:36:43] <hispeed> yes I'm and I think it's a kernel problem because I have seen it in other distributions and I think even in freebsd it's wrong
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1661 [20:37:16] <hispeed> There is no Swiss-French Keyboard here in switzerland this hardware doesn't exists I have never seen it.
1662 [20:37:49] <freem> keyboard layout for TTYs are loaded by kernel, indeed, but X11 ones are not, they are only used by xorg AFAIK
1663 [20:39:03] <thebreadthief> Jak2000, install gnome-disks and see if you can see the USB drive in there. It should show your internal hdd, dvd drive etc and removable storage
1664 [20:39:05] <freem> in any case, I won't be able to explain you why there are 2 if you are swiss.
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1666 [20:39:59] <freem> maybe you can try to check the differences between the 2 layouts. I'd guess one makes it easier to write in french, and the other one makes it easier to write in german?
1667 [20:40:04] <hispeed> hehe freem ok but where do i need to explain it :D? who is the right person for fixing this or can explain it to me
1668 [20:40:34] <freem> "fixing it"? This means it's broken, somehow?
1669 [20:40:51] <hispeed> freem I probably understand it why this exists but this is more a understanding and comprhension problem.
1670 [20:41:13] <freem> FWIW, I've never seen any keyboard which prints linux's french layouts, both X11 and TTY
1671 [20:41:21] <hispeed> no not broken, remove it and just name it Swiss and there is no Swiss-German and no Swiss-French or Swiss-Italien
1672 [20:42:21] <freem> maybe it's possible to check version control system of package containing them to find why they were introduced?
1673 [20:43:20] <hispeed> vcs has to go back until 1994 or so :D maybe there I find the problem hehe
1674 [20:43:25] <freem> dunno how far it's possible to dig debian's packages' history though. That's an interesting qustion
1675 [20:43:35] <thebreadthief> Hispeed - looks like there are swiss-german keyboards etc - replaced-url
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1677 [20:44:25] <hispeed> yes this is correct this is the swiss layout i actually type on this layout right now.
1678 [20:44:32] <jak2000> thebreadthief: sudo apt-get install gnome-disk-utility
1679 [20:44:34] <jak2000> its ok?
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1681 [20:44:53] <freem> "The difference between the Swiss German (sg) and the Swiss French (sf) layout is that the German variety has the German umlauts (ä, ö, ü) accessible in the unshifted state, while the French version has some French accented characters (é, à, è) accessible in the unshifted state"
1682 [20:44:53] <hispeed> Switzerland (German, French, Italian, Romansh), <- All people are using this in switzerland the italian or the french or the german all use the same hardware.
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1685 [20:45:34] <hispeed> freem this is the miss-understanding I'm talking about ;) you just wrote it
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1687 [20:45:52] <freem> well, french keyboards do not shows anyone how to write «, », É, À etc. Linux layouts does.
1688 [20:46:06] <freem> "the difference is only in the driver (software) settings."
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1690 [20:46:56] <hispeed> if you want to write french and you don't need ä ö ü then you use the AZERTY keyboard and this is the french keyboard
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1692 [20:47:37] <freem> not like there's only 1 azerty french layout in there haha
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1694 [20:48:09] <freem> from memory, there's at least 3, without counting the differences between number of keys
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1696 [20:48:28] <freem> keyboard layout stuff is messy
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1698 [20:49:27] <thebreadthief> Jak2000 - sorry it should be gnome-disks
1699 [20:49:41] <karlpinc> hispeed: If it makes you feel any better, there's no mention of "Swiss" in the linux-doc (kernel docs) package. That means to know more you read the source.
1700 [20:49:44] <hispeed> messy and buggy :D haha ok anyway I will dig into it until I reach to the end-boss of the keyboard before I die, probably this will be linus torvalds
1701 [20:50:20] <hispeed> ahh okey :D a first step
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1703 [20:50:28] <freem> hispeed: just... are you speaking about X11 layout, or TTY layout?
1704 [20:50:44] <jak2000> E: Unable to locate package gnome-disks
1705 [20:50:50] <jak2000> E: Unable to locate package gnome-disks-utility
1706 [20:51:50] <format_c> Hi, I have problems to keep my iptables rules after reboot.
1707 [20:52:00] <hispeed> freem i'm just reading what's the difference between x11 and TTY ^^
1708 [20:52:08] <thebreadthief> jak2000 have you run an apt update etc?
1709 [20:52:21] <format_c> I've put the iptables commands into a executable fule under /etc/network/if-up.d/
1710 [20:52:36] <format_c> if I execute the script, the rules are inserted as desired
1711 [20:52:49] <format_c> But after reboot, the rules are not inserted.
1712 [20:52:50] <imMute> thebreadthief: why use GNOME to look at disks when lsblk will show you the block devices from the command line?
1713 [20:52:59] <freem> hispeed: in short, kernel will consume the TTY layouts. That's _not_ related to Xorg/X11 (and probably wayland), which uses its own layout. Told you it's a mess :)
1714 [20:53:10] <format_c> Any help, what I do wrong using the if-up.d scripts?
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1716 [20:53:36] <freem> Xorg even uses it's own "drivers", I think, even if nowadays, most of the things (hopefully) has been moved to kernel
1717 [20:53:51] <thebreadthief> imMute, jak2000's lsblk didn't show the disk that i could see (looks like its a 16gb drive?), and gnome disks is a bit easier to view IMO
1718 [20:54:14] <imMute> thebreadthief: then the disk isn't attached or recognized by the kernel. I highly doubt that gnome-disks would show the device if lsblk doesn't
1719 [20:54:28] <hispeed> freem the question popped up because I'm right now installing the second time a debian system. Now it's the first virtual machine I will run. I have a raspberry which is running fine so far.
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1721 [20:54:42] <hispeed> I switch from Centos....
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1723 [20:55:28] <imMute> jak2000: run 'sudo dmesg -C' then remove the USB device, wait a few seconds then plug it back in, then pastebin the output of 'sudo dmesg'
1724 [20:56:06] <thebreadthief> imMute: fair enough - doesn't hurt to try a different way. I mostly use gnome-disks so I am more used to that over lsblk etc
1725 [20:56:07] <hispeed> So i assume I speak from TTY because it's in the installer
1726 [20:56:25] <freem> hispeed: just in case, if you intend to log into the VM with ssh or use an actual terminal software (microcom for example) then no need to bother about layout
1727 [20:56:37] <freem> but the question is still interesting, indeed
1728 [20:57:18] <thebreadthief> imMute: this was Jak2000's dmesg he posted earlier - replaced-url
1729 [20:57:19] <jhutchins> format_c: There is a package that will save iptable rules and re-set them on boot, can't quite think of the name...
1730 [20:57:46] <hispeed> freem yes i will login with ssh and yes I probably won't have a problem. But yes when I look at it's in any way wrong because the italian is missing right now :D
1731 [20:57:46] <freem> hispeed: can't answer for sure, I've never installed swiss layouts :) also, it's been years I have not installed debian "the normal way"
1732 [20:57:55] <imMute> thebreadthief: so it's /dev/sdc then. odd that the 3 pastebins of lsblk never showed that. unless those are from when the device was detached.
1733 [20:58:06] <imMute> jhutchins: netfilter-persistent?
1734 [20:58:22] <imMute> jhutchins: er, iptables-persistent
1735 [20:59:00] <thebreadthief> imMute: Yeah that's what confused me - hence going for the gui option to see if it shows up their as well
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1737 [20:59:25] <format_c> I'm using fail2ban in parallel. I tried with iptables-save and iptables-restore, but this messes up the joint ruleset (fail2ban+custom). Therefore, I'd like just to add my rules
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1742 [21:01:08] <jhutchins> Yeah, my package searches always return tons of irrelevant results.
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1744 [21:01:26] <format_c> Well the interface configuration has a post-up statement. Could it be that this is conflicting with the execution of the scripts under if-up.d directory=
1745 [21:01:36] <jhutchins> apt search "iptable*" returns everything marked "stable".
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1747 [21:01:45] <hispeed> freem Maintainers for keyboard-configuration are Debian Install System Team <debian-boot@lists.debian.org> <- Can I write them?
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1749 [21:02:33] <freem> dunno. Ask them?
1750 [21:02:37] <format_c> Damn. To dump to read the manual
1751 [21:02:41] <format_c> "Please note that as post-up and pre-down are aliases, no files in the corresponding directories are
1752 [21:02:43] <format_c> processed."
1753 [21:03:09] <hispeed> freem yes :D
1754 [21:03:14] <format_c> Then I've to find another way....
1755 [21:03:26] <greycat> freem: it's a mailing list, so make sure you mention that you're not subscribed (or, subscribe to it)
1756 [21:03:40] <greycat> hispeed: it's a mailing list, so make sure you mention that you're not subscribed (or, subscribe to it)
1757 [21:04:10] <hispeed> greycat this is my next problem i have never correct used a mailing list
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1759 [21:05:14] <jhutchins> hispeed: It's not hard, you send an email to the list address. You may need to join for it to be accepted. Then you wait, reviewing new posts occasionally.
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1766 [21:08:58] <slowly_stuck> is there a package to install dig or nslookup without installing bind9 and the geoip-database?
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1768 [21:10:10] <imMute> slowly_stuck: dnsutils is what provides dig.
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1771 [21:11:49] <sney> it comes from the bind9 source but it doesn't require installing the whole thing
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1773 [21:13:42] <hispeed> jhutchins so I subscribed it now I can write an e-mail.
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1775 [21:16:00] <tete_> i have a fat pdf file which takes quiet long if i search in it for text or browse the pages (~200mb, 500 pages). is there some way to get this completely in ram so every search etc. is faster?
1776 [21:16:42] <imMute> tete_: linux aggressively caches files in RAM. so the act of opening and reading the whole file into the program should be enough to do that.
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1784 [21:21:41] <jhutchins> hispeed: Expect a 24 hr turn-around.
1785 [21:22:24] <jhutchins> slowly_stuck: I'm not sure why dnsutils installs the server. No reason it should, but disk space is cheap these days.
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1789 [21:25:58] <wisbit> shtrb, thanks mate for the info
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1797 [21:33:02] <hispeed> jhutchins we will see what happens e-mail is sent I also recieved the confirmation and sent it back.
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1799 [21:33:58] <jhutchins> hispeed: You'll probably get copies of your own messages when they post to the list. You might set up a filter to put them in a dedicated folder.
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1805 [21:36:31] <hispeed> okey thank you jhutchins
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1811 [21:39:03] <jhutchins> s/hears/years.
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1813 [21:39:16] <istrive> hello all! Good afternoon...
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1815 [21:39:47] <jhutchins> istrive: ... for some locations.
1816 [21:40:20] <istrive> this command find -name '*.JPG' -exec rename 's/\.JPG/\.jpg/' {} \; is supposed to rename all caps to lowercase extensions, but instead it says the file already exists! What should I do!
1817 [21:40:45] <slowly_stuck> istrive: sounds like you have a case insensitive filesystem
1818 [21:40:46] <istrive> it's always 5 O'Clock somewhere!! ;)
1819 [21:41:08] <istrive> interesting, how to check that?
1820 [21:41:22] <istrive> debian buster here
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1822 [21:41:45] <greycat> istrive: on a USB device that you stuck in? that's got files that came from Windows?
1823 [21:41:47] <slowly_stuck> istrive: see if you can have test.txt and TEST.TXT in the same place (I don't know the proper way to check)
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1826 [21:43:13] <istrive> it won't let me create the same file with different caps on it
1827 [21:43:26] <greycat> because it's a Windows file system on a removable device?
1828 [21:43:42] <istrive> touch Trash.bin and trouch TRASH.bin only the first one shows
1829 [21:43:52] <istrive> Debian Buster!
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1831 [21:43:53] <greycat> is it is god damned SECRET or something?
1832 [21:43:55] <greycat> why can't you tell us?
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1835 [21:44:47] <slowly_stuck> istrive: where is the file stored?
1836 [21:44:55] <istrive> local disk
1837 [21:45:11] <greycat> what *directory* is it in
1838 [21:45:23] <istrive> sorry, nas drive (Synology)
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1840 [21:45:38] <greycat> so the FUCKING EXACT OPPOSITE of "local disk"
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1842 [21:45:39] <istrive> didn't pay attention to my path...
1843 [21:45:58] <istrive> calm down... Check your heart!
1844 [21:46:21] <greycat> anyway, it's bloody obvious it's on a Windows file system, and that's why you are having this issue
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1847 [21:46:46] <istrive> it is also linux! no Windows there!
1848 [21:46:52] <greycat> *plonk*
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1851 [21:47:38] <jhutchins> istrive: Most NAS systems are ntfs.
1852 [21:47:57] <jhutchins> istrive: You don't have to run Windows to use them.
1853 [21:48:11] <jhutchins> istrive: Does this device mount automatically at boot?
1854 [21:48:21] <istrive> yes as cfis
1855 [21:48:36] <istrive> cifs
1856 [21:48:44] <sney> synology uses an embedded linux thing on most of their devices, but cifs ends up with it being treated like a windows fs anyway
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1858 [21:48:57] <jhutchins> Ok, so that's ntfs, which is case insensitive.
1859 [21:49:37] <jhutchins> istrive: On that filesystem, .jpg == .JPG
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1861 [21:49:54] <istrive> got it! so I have to do it from Windwos with PS! no problem thank you for the insight!
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1863 [21:50:42] <jhutchins> istrive: Actually, that Windows will also see them as the same. It will save either case, but not both.
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1865 [21:51:52] <greycat> Windows file systems do a case-insensitive match on whatever filename you give them, against the currently existing files. If there's a match, it pretends you typed the existing filename.
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1867 [21:51:57] <istrive> I just want to convert the extension from upter to lower... not having both!
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1869 [21:52:17] <greycat> So if there's a file named "ReAdMe" and you type "cat readme", you see the contents of ReAdMe.
1870 [21:52:43] <greycat> And if you type "mv ReAdMe readme", it's as if you had typed "mv ReAdMe ReAdMe" and nothing happens except an error.
1871 [21:52:57] <jhutchins> istrive: I think you're going to have to move them to a Linux file system, like your local disk, rename them, then move them back.
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1873 [21:53:18] <greycat> Rename them to 'istrivesucks" as a temporary name, and then to the case-altered original name.
1874 [21:53:35] <jhutchins> greycat: Ah, of course.
1875 [21:54:16] <istrive> it's quite a bit, so I will play from the PS side, but thanks for that alternative, I considered it also but not workt the time just for the result I am seeking!
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1883 [22:00:17] <imMute> I had a trick for changing the case of a file on windows: rename the file twice. once to add an extra character and once to remove it (and one of those should set the case to what you want too).
1884 [22:00:53] <imMute> it works because NTFS is case insensitive but case preserving. adding a letter causes it to be a totally new name, so it uses the case of the new name.
1885 [22:01:20] <imMute> find -name '*.JPG' -exec rename 's/\.JPG/\.JPGX/' {} \; -exec rename 's/\.JPGX/.jpg/' {} \; might work
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1887 [22:01:43] <imMute> I would also put those {} in quotes too, just in case some file has a space in the name.
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1890 [22:02:55] <greycat> you do not need to put {} in quotes
1891 [22:04:10] <imMute> greycat: I suppose find does exec itself rather than going through the shell, so yeah. I'm just used to putting *anything* that could end up holding a filename in quotes just to be safe.
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1915 [22:17:16] <tete_> imMute, well... i open the pdf and it takes about 10 seconds to load the first 10 pages. then i can wait as long as i want, the other pages are not loaded as long as i do not scroll to them. but i do not want to scroll all the 500 pages before they get loaded
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1917 [22:17:36] <tete_> so maybe its a viewer problem
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1922 [22:19:59] <jhutchins> I don't seem to be able to find the settings for the default screen saver/lock screen in Buster xfce.
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1924 [22:20:45] <jhutchins> I want to turn off the lock.
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1931 [22:25:45] <jhutchins> tete_: Or maybe you just need an ssd,
1932 [22:26:02] <tete_> thats a samsung 850 pro 1tb ssd
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1990 [23:35:52] <Aavar> Hi. I'm sorry to "ask to ask", but can one of you help me set up YADM? I think I am having trouble understanding git... When I run "yadm push -u origin master" I get an error "error: src refspec master does not match any" and "error: failed to push some refs to 'URL'"
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1994 [23:40:02] <Aavar> nkuttler: I think so... I am trying to follow this guide: replaced-url
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