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47 [00:59:50] <Waxhead> Howdy, is the old debian.org website still accessible somehow?
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51 [01:04:28] <Waxhead> (main problem is - I am NOT visually impaired (not that old) - both debian.org and micronews.debin.org use gigantic fonts by default. - the old site was better structured, cleaner and looked more professional.
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67 [01:29:16] <Poster> I think the style you describe is becoming largely adopted across many sites, just punching in a few other large OS/distribution players seems to yield similar styles
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71 [01:31:32] <Poster> it's important to remember that a signifncant percentage of web browsing is happening on mobile devices now with relatively small displays. Making fonts and images larger can make those interfaces much easier to use
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82 [01:55:14] <Waxhead> Poster: But Debian is NOT for cellphones (primarily). Too many "professionals" make websites more like a techdemo , but the new main page does not have any useful content. Do I really have to set a zoom level on my browser just because I need to conform to those using cellphones? Gimme a break.
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84 [01:58:15] <sney> Waxhead: to answer your question, no, there is not a way to go back to the old design. if you have some constructive critiques, feel free to email debian-replaced-url
85 [01:59:00] <Waxhead> sney: Okeydok - thanks a bunch. I'll try to do that instead! Cheers!
86 [01:59:07] <sney> np
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89 [02:02:22] * foxide finds the new layout far more efficient.
90 [02:02:43] <foxide> One click to the netinst download, one click to the security advisories.
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92 [02:03:16] * sney doesn't have a problem with it, but wishes they would put the netinst download on a landing page with links to verification/other installer images
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95 [02:04:35] * Waxhead will keep quiet and try to stay on topic :)
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131 [02:44:39] <jennie> hello, i installed dvd1 with debian buster, i have kde and i am stuck at login with deb user, i cant switch it to root why?
132 [02:45:10] <jennie> how to swithc to root, i tried arrow keys, i tried clicking arrows but it wont let me switch to root user, its stuck at deb user i created
133 [02:45:24] <sney> don't log into kde as root.
134 [02:45:48] <sney> most X applications don't support it, even if you manage to get in, your desktop will be broken
135 [02:46:09] <sney> instead, log in as your normal user. then if you need a root shell you can use sudo or su from konsole
136 [02:46:14] * robobox feels too old
137 [02:46:37] <jennie> okay sney
138 [02:46:59] <robobox> there's a ~2005 era slashdot rant I found and use when relevent
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140 [02:50:20] <sney> robobox: a side effect of linux being "easy" for the past decade is that a lot of people are lacking fundamentals, that they didn't need to learn as a natural part of the process of setting up a working system. so a "rant" from 2005 is probably completely off the mark by now
141 [02:51:01] <sney> never mind some of the "*plonk*" fodder that older helpers in this channel still fall back on
142 [02:51:17] <n4dir> when i started using linux, which is the same as using computers and as using debian, it was already very easy. That should have been 2007
143 [02:51:23] <n4dir> sney: ^^
144 [02:51:29] <robobox> i've been using X as root for 25 yewars
145 [02:51:33] <robobox> and linux
146 [02:51:55] <robobox> guess i'm too old (50 years) :(
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148 [02:52:38] <sney> I started using linux in 2000, a few months after reading a book that advised me to pick between redhat and debian. (I basically flipped a coin.)
149 [02:52:40] <n4dir> sney: ah, i recall, it was etch, but short after that the next release came out
150 [02:52:48] <sney> n4dir: I forgot a ~ before decade, I meant to be approximate
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152 [02:54:05] <n4dir> sney: yeah, it is just i remember well, as i was told how horribly difficult it is. It wasn't, i was reliefed, and hence remember. Just a "story"
153 [02:54:07] <sney> anyway, there are a lot of people who are perfectly fine at general gui operation, and booting installers and sneakernet-ing files around, but don't know anything about privilege separation or other low level unix stuff because they haven't had to learn it until now.
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178 [03:09:44] <n4dir> guilty. i guess
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183 [03:13:40] <ryouma> to me linux (e.g. new subsystems, initrd, etc.) and computers (smr drives) are getting more complex and it is quite annoying
184 [03:14:15] <ryouma> but to a just-run-me-a-windows-like-desktop user perhaps it is getting less copmlex
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190 [03:19:47] <ectospasm> I was introduced to Slackware on January 13, 1997, the day after HAL-9000 went online.
191 [03:21:02] <ectospasm> I have been using Linux ever since. Didn't set up Linux on my daily driver until about 2001 or so.
192 [03:21:33] <ectospasm> I started using Debian ca 2008, after a brief stint with Ubuntu as my daily driver.
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217 [04:02:45] <lf94> Hey, is there a way to modify a control file and re-run it?
218 [04:03:10] <lf94> Right now I'm running Debian testing, and one of the dependencies the control file requires, libre2-8, doesn't exist, but libre2-9 does
219 [04:03:29] <lf94> replaced-url
220 [04:03:37] <sney> lf94: as you can see from the topic, testing support is in #debian-next on OFTC (note, right now you are on freenode)
221 [04:03:50] <lf94> Whoops! Sorry, my window is quite small
222 [04:03:53] <lf94> I'll go
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266 [05:12:01] <iMin3Ra1n> Hi there. I've got an instance of debain running inside of UserLAnd on android 10. When trying to run a java program, i am met with "A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x0000007f4aea6fe0, pid=9720, tid=9721" and then it spits out a log. I can send it to whoever wants to look at it
267 [05:12:10] <iMin3Ra1n> i am using default-jdk
268 [05:15:51] <sney> feel free to paste your full log to paste.debian.net and link to the channel, if anyone has ideas based on all of the information they may share
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273 [05:17:20] <iMin3Ra1n> one moment as i attempt to ftp into the device...
274 [05:17:39] <sney> if it can nc, you can use termbin:
275 [05:17:42] <sney> !termbin
276 [05:17:43] <dpkg> you can paste to termbin.com from terminal via: nc termbin.com 9999 < /path/to/file
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278 [05:19:22] <iMin3Ra1n> it's a .log file :/
279 [05:20:12] <sney> file extension doesn't mean anything, is it text?
280 [05:20:24] <iMin3Ra1n> it's a lost cause i think. can't even isntall vsftpd without spewing errors everywhere
281 [05:20:51] <iMin3Ra1n> gotta find a better way of installing debian/linux on an android phone
282 [05:21:38] <qman__> iMin3Ra1n: Termux provides a debian-like userland on android
283 [05:22:02] <sney> since android uses a linux kernel, lxc might be possible, or at least i see some google results
284 [05:22:07] <iMin3Ra1n> I do have termux installed but i just could not for the life of me figure out how to ssh into it
285 [05:23:13] <iMin3Ra1n> the enviroment im looking to build on this phone must: 1) run linux 2) run java 3) have ssh/ftp access
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289 [05:24:21] <qman__> iMin3Ra1n: replaced-url
290 [05:24:46] <qman__> this channel is pretty specifically just for debian itself
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292 [05:25:20] <iMin3Ra1n> hm
293 [05:25:30] <iMin3Ra1n> android = linux
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295 [05:25:37] <iMin3Ra1n> but okay
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298 [05:26:20] <qman__> while android runs the linux kernel, you are unlikely to find support for it in any linux support channels and communities, and will have to go to android specific ones
299 [05:26:37] <qman__> because android does things significanly differently to traditional linux distributions
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304 [05:27:45] <archer86> linux has 3 things stdin (standard in) stdout (standard out) and stderr (standard error) human beings are exactly the same we have input output and errors human beings are 1:1 with computers so if we go to war with machines who will strike first?
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339 [06:16:28] <T-zef> hi all! at home i have a router that provide wifi: replaced-url
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347 [06:24:17] <T-zef> maybe that is the answer ? replaced-url
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349 [06:24:27] <T-zef> i have never did that before
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430 [08:46:43] <powerhouse> I got Debian running as a VM. I am using Gnome but I don't see how I can open a terminal or a web browser. I see in settings - search - terminal but I click it any nothing happens. Any ideas?
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432 [08:52:46] <nkuttler> powerhouse: gnome has menu, doesn't it?
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435 [09:08:35] <powerhouse> nkuttler, oh there we go, I had to press Activities
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442 [09:13:47] <idlestranger> tbh I tried gnome with buster and immediately hated it. I haven't liked any version of gnome after gnome 2. Currently happy with cinnamon as a DE, though if you're still exploring DE's, lxqt's pretty good as well imho. xfce has the same issues it had 6 years ago(no surprise there) and my impression of kde plasma can be summed up as 'misguided'. Now i'm sure both gnome and kde can be tweaked to your
443 [09:13:53] <idlestranger> liking, and most of xfce's issues can be worked around. just my personal opinions.
444 [09:14:42] <powerhouse> idlestranger, grattitude
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468 [09:42:57] <powerhouse> How do I get out of fullscreen mode on a vm so I can get back to my main os?
469 [09:43:35] <idlestranger> which vm software are you using?
470 [09:44:00] <powerhouse> No software, I just ran my script and loaded the OS
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472 [09:44:30] <idlestranger> hypervisor then?
473 [09:44:56] <powerhouse> sorry not sure.
474 [09:45:16] <powerhouse> im using visualization if that helps.
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476 [09:45:33] <idlestranger> if hypervisor it should be ctrl+alt+pause, if vmware player it should be ctrl+alt+enter
477 [09:45:49] <yogoyo> hello, when i install buster on my laptop i setup wifi. i skip the gui install, because i wanna do some things before that. but when i boot the new system i have no connection to the network
478 [09:46:00] <yogoyo> how can i restore it?
479 [09:46:33] <powerhouse> idlestranger, got it thanks!
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481 [09:50:16] <yogoyo> !nm-cli
482 [09:50:28] <yogoyo> !nmcli
483 [09:50:29] <dpkg> nmcli is a command line interface for controlling <NetworkManager>, introduced at version 0.8.1. See nmcli(1) or replaced-url
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608 [12:41:11] <yibotg> Hi,I used xterm and st,and found that the same font in Xterm is displayed wider when the antialias is true ,and if I close the antialias,the font is displayed worse. But the font in st is OK. I want to know how to compact the font.Thanks
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638 [13:01:24] <towser> hello, I'm trying to use obs with snappy but for some reason the text is missing but all the buttons load up and a few errors I can't read because there is no text
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641 [13:03:47] <noln> Testing users, install apt-listbugs and don't upgrade python today, replaced-url
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643 [13:04:29] <davorin> good afternoon (o;
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647 [13:05:10] <davorin> ah this nouveau blacklisting is a nightmare every time i install debian on a system with nvidia gpu...
648 [13:05:23] <davorin> never works with adding an entry under modprobe.conf.d
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650 [13:06:59] <davorin> *arggghlmpf....grub-install dummy failed...wtf....
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685 [13:55:20] <davorin> seems nvidia installer doesn't install any blacklists
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691 [14:01:23] <unixbsd> Which Filesystem does have a badsect/badsector ? Ext2,3,4, what else?
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695 [14:02:53] <Vatum> is apparmor enabled by default in debian 10 buster? do i need to pass any parameter to the kernel boot line?
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697 [14:06:23] <foxide> Vatum: I believe it is enabled by default.
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700 [14:11:07] <Vatum> foxide, is there a way to check with certainty?
701 [14:11:47] <foxide> Vatum: aa-status as root or via sudo.
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704 [14:13:39] <Vatum> foxide, says apparmor module is loaded
705 [14:13:50] <Vatum> and 2 profiles are loaded, with them 2 being nvidia in enforce mode
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707 [14:14:05] <foxide> Then its enabled.
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711 [14:19:31] <towser> missing libary libGL.so.1 when trying to launch steam. how do i fix this?
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716 [14:24:01] <noln> unixbsd, pretty much all, except btrfs
717 [14:25:28] <noln> unixbsd, but writing to a bad sector will remap it to a "spare" sector from a spare area at the physical disk level (below the FS) so filesystem-level bad-sector marking is not needed until the drive runs out of spare sectors
718 [14:26:14] <foxide> And at that point, you're better served by replacing the disk.
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720 [14:27:31] <noln> well, sometimes it's easier to keep daily backups, which you should do anyway
721 [14:27:51] <noln> or do a btrfs raid1
722 [14:27:59] <foxide> raid isn't backups
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726 [14:29:27] <noln> or keep .git on a separate disk
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737 [14:40:04] <Lope> is there any reason I can't run a buster container on a 3.4 kernel?
738 [14:40:34] <azeem> did you try?
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741 [14:41:18] <Lope> azeem, I had trouble in the past, where I couldn't run anything newer than wheezy or whatever on a 3.0 kernel due to libc6 requiring a 3.1 kernel IIRC
742 [14:41:41] <Lope> But I've not encountered any trouble with a 3.4 kernel, but haven't tried anything newer than Jessie on a 3.4 kernel either.
743 [14:41:58] <Lope> Sorry, haven't tried anything newer than Stretch on a 3.4 kernel.
744 [14:42:04] <Lope> I'll give it a try :)
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746 [14:44:59] <Lope> okay, yolo, upgrading the stretch to buster :)
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761 [15:14:49] <Lope> It worked :)
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773 [15:36:46] <Vatum> i wanted ejabberd but the stable package is old, so i checked buster-backports which is current. my friend though insists that this will break our system because its from backports, and we got the one .deb packge from ejabberd official site
774 [15:37:19] <Vatum> i thought backports are compiled against libraries existing in stable right? so can it introduce instability?
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776 [15:40:07] <dvs> Vatum: backports was designed to work with stable so it won't break stable.
777 [15:40:46] <Vatum> dvs, also should i do apt-get install -t buster-backports ejabberd
778 [15:40:56] <Vatum> or apt-get install ejabberd/buster-backports ?
779 [15:41:22] <Vatum> from what i have read the latter get dependencies from stable, the former with -t gets dependencies from backports
780 [15:41:43] <Vatum> (i originally saw an article about that talking about unstable, and grabbing packages from there and the differences between the two commands)
781 [15:41:45] <dvs> the former
782 [15:43:11] <Vatum> dvs, alright also, i want to pin the package. i dont want it updated every time i do apt-get dist-upgrade
783 [15:43:39] <Vatum> reading about pins, it is about other repos like testing or unstable. can it be done with backports?
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785 [15:44:12] <dvs> Vatum: it can be done with any repo
786 [15:44:33] <dvs> Vatum: but why don't you want that package to upgrade?
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788 [15:45:10] <Vatum> dvs, they sometimes have syntax changes from version to version, and we want to first test the new version on a seperate machine before upgrading our main machine
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790 [15:45:34] <dvs> ok
791 [15:45:39] <Vatum> and not only config syntax changes, various other things might change
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797 [15:55:06] <Vatum> dvp, so i go to apt preferances and drop priority of buster-backports right?
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799 [15:57:21] <dvs> Vatum: the priority of buster-backports is already below stable by default.
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801 [15:57:46] <dvs> Vatum: apt-cache policy ejabberd
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809 [16:10:10] <Vatum> dvs, then how does apt-get dist-upgraade, automatically get new updates from backports?
810 [16:10:18] <Vatum> from packages installed from backports?
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812 [16:13:23] <dvs> Vatum: backported packages will get upgraded normally. apt knows if a package came from backports and will not override it with a stable package.
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816 [16:18:32] <Vatum> dvs, what if i want to pin the backported package to a version? as i said
817 [16:19:39] <dvs> You can do that. But you can just mark the package as hold through apt though.
818 [16:22:51] <abrotman> you probably shouldn't do that, it would impact your ability to get security updates
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829 [16:40:11] <daysun> user _0dev_ spamming discord link about "hacking.
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834 [16:44:41] <alex11> is there any way to send text from a file instantly to your clipboard?
835 [16:45:36] <derpadmin> xclip?
836 [16:45:40] <derpadmin> I think...
837 [16:45:41] <plushtrap> hi
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841 [16:55:28] <jim> hi
842 [16:55:48] <daysun> alex11: xclip < file but that goes into your "x clipboard" which means that you paste with your mouse middle button
843 [16:56:12] <jim> cat aFile | xclip I guess
844 [16:56:24] <jim> or that
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848 [16:59:40] <alex11> now, now
849 [16:59:42] <alex11> settle down
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856 [17:06:42] <henko> what is the canonical way to set up interface priorities? I want my default interface to be the wired one when it's plugged in instead of wifi. also when removing the patch cable I want it to automatically use the other interface.
857 [17:07:43] <henko> I've seen many ways to accomplish that. some make a bridge which aggregates both interfaces. some use ipmetric, some use nmcli and some directly change /etc/network/interfaces
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892 [17:48:31] <__marco> could you help me to repair a failed upgrade? I am not able to boot anymore so I started from an usb stick and I would like to chroot and run apt from there but there is an issue with glibc:
893 [17:48:53] <__marco> libc.so.6 version not found (required by libselinux.so.1)
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896 [17:50:52] <__marco> I can not even launch ls
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900 [17:54:11] <sney> __marco: libc6 is pretty fundamental. are you seeing that message before or after chroot?
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903 [17:54:35] <__marco> sney: after I chroot
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906 [17:55:26] <__marco> command is chroot /mnt where I mounted in /mnt the primary partition of my HD
907 [17:55:47] <__marco> it contains /bin, /usr, /var, etc. except /home
908 [17:55:47] <sney> ok, log out of the chroot, and go to /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu on the target disk, and see what 'ls -l libc.so.6' says
909 [17:56:02] <sney> that's fine, you don't need /home for this stuff.
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911 [17:57:24] <__marco> sney: symlink to libc-2.28.so
912 [17:57:50] <__marco> libc-2.28.so is there
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914 [17:58:16] <sney> ok, that's what it should be. did you fsck this volume before mounting it? if not, unmount it and do that.
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916 [17:58:39] <__marco> I did run e2fsck and no errors
917 [17:58:48] <sney> did you with -f?
918 [17:59:13] <__marco> no I didn't
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920 [17:59:41] <sney> just to make sure it actually checks
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922 [17:59:55] <__marco> sney: a precision that I just notice. exact error is GLIBC_2.30 not found, but I have libc 2.28
923 [18:00:07] <__marco> libc was one of the candidates for upgrade
924 [18:00:28] <__marco> I wonder if some packages upgraded and libc didn't
925 [18:00:40] <__marco> in any case I run e2fsck again
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927 [18:01:18] <sney> libc6 2.30 isn't in any current debian branch, what are you upgrading to?
928 [18:01:36] <__marco> stable -> testing
929 [18:01:44] <sney> testing has 2.31.
930 [18:01:47] <Vatum> i want the apparmor profile from this package: replaced-url
931 [18:02:00] <Vatum> do i just need /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.ejabberdctl or anything else?
932 [18:02:03] <__marco> sney: I don't know what to say
933 [18:02:20] <__marco> sney: so, e2fsck -f did pass
934 [18:02:23] <__marco> no errors
935 [18:03:29] <sney> __marco: alright, is libc-2.31.so present in /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu?
936 [18:05:00] <__marco> I would say no
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938 [18:05:42] <sney> you would say, or you can see that it's not there?
939 [18:05:45] <foxide> Vatum: You should have that profile by installing the package.
940 [18:05:48] <__marco> not sure how to see the library version either. I can judge only by the filename (libc-2.28.so)
941 [18:06:21] <__marco> libc-2.28.so: this is the only file that matches libc-*
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944 [18:06:36] <sney> ok.
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946 [18:07:00] <Vatum> foxide, i am using the upstream package from ejabberd, i want to see the profile, so i can adapt it.
947 [18:07:06] <Vatum> do i need only the file i mentioned?
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949 [18:08:29] <sney> __marco: if this doesn't work, it's good that you have access to your disk, because backup and reinstall is the next step. download the libc6 2.31-9 deb from replaced-url
950 [18:08:57] <__marco> sney: ok, I try
951 [18:09:03] <__marco> sney: thanks
952 [18:09:06] <sney> np
953 [18:10:30] <sney> if you don't already know, 'ar' is the tool to extract the 2 tarballs from a deb package. ar x foo.deb, and then the contents are in the data tarball
954 [18:11:14] <__marco> I tried dpkg but it also refuses to run with the same message. I try to extract manually
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956 [18:14:20] <__marco> sney: it worked! at least ls works now
957 [18:14:33] <__marco> I try to recover the installation
958 [18:14:35] <sney> great!
959 [18:14:36] <__marco> thanks
960 [18:15:52] <Vatum> foxide, ?
961 [18:21:54] <unixbsd> I am using thunderbird, and I would need to have a similar email format like ms outlook. Where to download the genuine calibri fonts or very cloned for thunderbird fonts (i.e. into ~/.fonts/ <-- ttf)?`
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975 [18:31:51] <foxide> I think Carlito and Caladea are the clones.
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994 [18:45:51] <Zereges> Hello, I encountered a problem with installing samba on Debian, and it seems there is some issue with the package (discussed with people at #samba), can someone point me to right direction? I described the problem on serverfault
995 [18:45:52] <Zereges> replaced-url
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1002 [18:52:13] <sney> Zereges: it looks like something is blowing up on postinst, does your server have any apparmor customizations, weird mount options for /var, anything that you changed system-wide after installing?
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1004 [18:53:34] <Zereges> sney I don't remember tampering with anything like that, I installed it several years ago
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1007 [18:54:19] <abrotman> did someone manually remove config files?
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1010 [18:54:55] <Zereges> File /etc/samba/smb.conf is there if that is the question
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1012 [18:55:54] <__marco> sney: it seems I cannot recover the installation. I try to backup the partition (mainly /opt and /etc) and reinstall Debian
1013 [18:56:23] <abrotman> Zereges: does /etc/apparmor.d/samba/ exist?
1014 [18:56:37] <sney> __marco: alright. if you want to go straight to testing, the alpha3 from debian.org/devel/debian-installer is pretty reliable.
1015 [18:56:53] <Zereges> abrotman yes drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 24 15:08 /etc/apparmor.d/samba/
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1019 [19:00:20] <sney> Zereges: can you reinstall samba-common and samba-common-bin? it looks like they (rather than the samba package itself) are where samba's /var stuff is populated, and may be related here
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1023 [19:02:58] <Zereges> sney well, that did the trick, seems to be working. Samba installation finished and smbd is running
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1025 [19:04:18] <Zereges> Thank you
1026 [19:04:21] <sney> np
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1032 [19:13:41] <__marco> one last question. Do you know how to retrieve the list of installed packages from the filesystem, i.e. not using dpkg -l or similar?
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1034 [19:18:15] <elwisp> is there a way to ignore gateway check when doing the network setup in the installer?
1035 [19:18:33] <elwisp> Makes it impossible to install when the gateway is in anothe rsubnet
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1060 [19:49:56] <Lope> ratrace, sometimes I've done an install where I couldn't use the USB keyboard to enter luks password etc. And I had to add this to make it work: GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES="usb usb_keyboard"
1061 [19:50:06] <Lope> But then the need to do that, seemed to go away.
1062 [19:50:21] <Lope> Do you think it's a good thing to have as a precaution?
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1113 [20:35:55] <GenTooMan> I have a USB drive that "didn't mount" I know it's USB ID any suggestion as to find out what it's status is or why it didn't mount?
1114 [20:36:26] <sney> watch dmesg output when you plug it in.
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1126 [20:48:19] <dob1> with only linux (debian) pc what are the options for a centralized user management system? I would like to crete the user on the main pc and have the home/whatever for this user on another pc
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1128 [20:51:41] <ialokin> dob1: you could use ldap for authentication
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1131 [20:54:40] <dob1> ialokin, it seems a bit complicated or am I wrong?
1132 [20:56:46] <powerhouse> I am running a debian vm via virtualization from Centos&. I can see my ihpone in Centos7 via "lsusb" but I do not see my Ihpone8 in debia via "lsusb". How can I achieve the desired result?
1133 [20:57:08] <dob1> powerhouse, it's virtualbox?
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1135 [20:57:21] <sney> powerhouse: you will have to passthrough the usb device from the host hypervisor
1136 [20:57:37] <powerhouse> dob1, Virt Viewer.
1137 [20:57:55] <powerhouse> sney, okay. Any direction how I can achieve that. This is new for me.
1138 [20:58:29] <sney> powerhouse: look up 'qemu usb passthrough' online, there are a lot of docs
1139 [20:58:41] <powerhouse> sney, thank you Kindsir
1140 [20:58:44] <sney> np.
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1146 [21:04:16] <sney> dob1: there's always nis/nfs for the old-school UNIX way of sharing logins and home directories etc. I've never used it but it's probably simpler than ldap+kerberos approaches, and should be secure enough for a couple machines on a local network
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1152 [21:13:20] <dob1> sney, why nfs ? I used it but I just exported directories
1153 [21:13:57] <zutat> powerhouse: is it possible to transfer data between an iphone and a linux computer?
1154 [21:15:39] <shtrb> yes
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1156 [21:19:57] <zutat> shtrb: answering me?
1157 [21:20:25] <shtrb> yes
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1159 [21:20:48] <zutat> shtrb: cool. any pointers?
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1161 [21:21:00] <shtrb> yes
1162 [21:21:23] <shtrb> 0x8e9c10ff
1163 [21:23:52] <GenTooMan> it would be nice to be able to get the physical case serial # to match the USB serial # with western digital drives (sigh).
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1167 [21:24:52] <sney> dob1: they integrate together natively, iirc
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1169 [21:25:58] <shtrb> zutat, you could start with replaced-url
1170 [21:26:35] <zutat> shtrb: thank you
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1173 [21:27:12] <dob1> but ldap on debian means openldap right?
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1175 [21:28:03] <shtrb> one of the easiest solution would be slapd (which is openldap)
1176 [21:28:51] <jmcnaught> 389-ds is also in Debian.
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1178 [21:29:21] <jmcnaught> oh and apacheds, but openldap is probably the most popular.
1179 [21:30:11] <sney> and yes, ldap is complicated. but if you learn it once you can put it on your resume.
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1181 [21:32:16] <dob1> any suggestion where to start ? I was looking at tutorial at debian but maybe something else?
1182 [21:32:52] <shtrb> there was an amazing tuts at debian-administration RIP
1183 [21:33:01] <dob1> was??
1184 [21:33:31] <shtrb> site is gone , only web archive exist
1185 [21:33:52] <dob1> what was the domain? debian-administration.org?
1186 [21:34:10] <shtrb> yes
1187 [21:35:15] <dob1> I take a look, thanks
1188 [21:35:59] <shtrb> !ldap
1189 [21:35:59] <dpkg> Lightweight Directory Access Protocol (LDAP) is a client/server protocol for accessing a directory service. Ask me about <openldap>. replaced-url
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1205 [21:51:19] <powerhouse> zutat, I am figuring that out now. I believe so since we can jailbreak the phones. In my Fedora my Iphone was picked up in Bluetooth. Testing now.
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1237 [22:31:27] <rander2> hello all
1238 [22:32:08] <dvs> oi
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1243 [22:38:21] <dff> anyone here have an asus xg-c100c nic?
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1247 [22:39:49] <sney> !anyone
1248 [22:39:49] <dpkg> Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
1249 [22:40:06] <sney> #debian volunteers are good at troubleshooting, even with hardware we don't physically own.
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1257 [22:45:36] <dff> i dont have a problem, im considering buying one :)
1258 [22:46:25] <dff> ive spent a good hour checking search engine results
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1261 [22:49:04] <dff> so my question would be, how well does the drivers or kernal module work for the xg-c100c in debian?
1262 [22:50:39] <dff> Driver Package Version 5.0.2.2 to be specific
1263 [22:50:48] <rander2> replaced-url
1264 [22:50:58] <rander2> how may I solve it ?
1265 [22:51:29] <sney> dff: well, google says the actual chip is a marvell aqc-107, which is supported by the 'atlantic' module, which is present in linux 4.19, so you should not need to download any driver from asus.
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1269 [22:52:34] <dff> google also finds a fair amount of users with problems with that module and the asus driver
1270 [22:52:51] <dff> ill give it go though
1271 [22:52:53] <dff> thanks
1272 [22:53:02] <sney> I would not recommend that you buy a nic that requires a non-free driver download
1273 [22:53:09] <ratrace> rander2: ask #kali
1274 [22:54:03] <rander2> ratrace, it's on invite, and I haven't invite
1275 [22:54:17] <sney> the kali channel is #kali-linux
1276 [22:54:32] <ratrace> rander2: tough luck
1277 [22:54:39] <rander2> on #kali-linux nobody answer me sorry
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1279 [22:55:27] <sney> rander2: yes, because kali is not a desktop OS for newbies, they are not interested in helping you learn linux fundamentals. and #debian is not for derivative distros.
1280 [22:55:47] <dff> sney: this nic qualifies then right? replaced-url
1281 [22:55:49] <sney> you have discovered the thing that all kali newbies eventually discover.
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1283 [22:56:08] <sney> dff: yes, that's the mainline driver I mentioned
1284 [22:56:25] <dff> good stuff
1285 [22:56:28] <dff> thanks again
1286 [22:56:35] <rander2> sney, they are interested to advanced questions, not to help the foundamentals
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1288 [22:57:00] <sney> rander2: yes, that's what I said.
1289 [22:57:17] <rander2> ok, understood thx
1290 [22:57:32] <sney> !they don't know
1291 [22:57:33] <dpkg> We're sorry your distro's channel isn't being helpful, but that doesn't make it appropriate to use #debian for non-Debian questions. Please go back to your channel and wait patiently for better help, or install Debian and party with us.
1292 [22:57:42] <ratrace> rander2: install debian and you won't have issues with libc breakage
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1294 [22:57:57] <ratrace> that's the answer to "how may I solve it"
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1312 [23:30:49] <sponix> anyone having good luck with the nvidia 460.32 from backports and a GTX 900 series card ?
1313 [23:33:45] <jhutchins> rander2: Just an irc support tip: Pastebins are good, but you should also post a summary of your problem so people will know if it's worth their time to look./
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1327 [23:53:50] <unixbsd> stella atari: stella -video software space-invaders.a26 does not work. it shows up that an error with framebuffer occurs. Is it possible that this runs on X11 window?
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1329 [23:54:56] <sney> sponix: I'm sure we don't need to tell you about asking "anyone" questions; 460.32 is fine with the gtx 1070 in this system and the 9xx series are listed as supported, what's your real problem?
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1332 [23:57:41] <sponix> sney: well, I now have my GPU down a slot and it seemed to be a solution. BUT, it isn't -- every week or two I still get a GUI freeze with everything underneath still running
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1334 [23:58:02] <sponix> sney: still hoping to find a solution
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