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• 18[00:31:50] <j`ey> I had a random kernel in my /boot, and when I just did an update, it got added to grub, should I run some reconfigure thing with dpkg/apt, or should I run update-grub2?
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• 20[00:33:35] <ratrace> j`ey: to do what?
• 21[00:34:05] <j`ey> to update my grub stuff, so that random kernel isnt in there anymore
• 22[00:35:22] <ratrace> how did that random kernel materialize itself there? installed via package? remove the package. update-grub runs grub-mkconfig that enumerates everything kernel-like it finds in /boot
• 23[00:35:56] <j`ey> it was one I built and was playing around with
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• 26[00:36:14] <ratrace> then remove it from /boot and re-run update-grub
• 27[00:36:19] <mrkramps> ratrace, you run custom settings for your snd module?
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• 29[00:36:52] <ratrace> mrkramps: nah, I fixed it. steam grabbed alsa interfaces too soon.... dunno why, it's supposed to use pulseaudio
• 30[00:37:07] <j`ey> ratrace: cool thanks
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• 91[01:46:07] <cluelessperson> hm. I'm thinking about contributing to debian's apt management.
• 92[01:46:24] <cluelessperson> or mirroring
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• 94[01:46:36] <cluelessperson> I feel I could improve the tooling and provide ready easy docker implementations. :)
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• 96[01:48:05] <sney> !how-can-i-help
• 97[01:48:06] <dpkg> Want to help out with Debian and become more involved in the Debian project? The tools wnpp-alert, rc-alert (both from the devscripts package) and how-can-i-help can provide inspiration on buggy or unmaintained packages that you have installed on your system. Ask me about <wnpp>, <rc-alert>, <devscripts>, <new maintainer guide>. replaced-url
• 98[01:48:30] <cluelessperson> sney, thank you. :
• 99[01:48:32] <cluelessperson> :)
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• 102[01:50:41] <sney> cluelessperson: np. debian does need more contributors. just make sure you spend time getting familiar with the existing tools and workflows etc.
• 103[01:52:02] <cluelessperson> sney, well at the moment I'm entering from the angle of mirroring debian's package repos. I've done similar stuff before for offline cluster deployment, but I figure if I get a nice solution I should provide it to the community. :)
• 104[01:52:22] <cluelessperson> not sure how much I can commit otherwise, but I love debian and want to make it as resiliant as possible.
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• 126[02:14:59] <smashgrab> 15:32:28 sney | smashgrab: network-manager ignores interfaces configured in /etc/network/interfaces, that's probably what's hapening here << Thanks! This was exactly the problem.
• 127[02:15:34] <cluelessperson> I'm thinking of ways to handle apt synchronization. Perhaps I can sync changes to an alternate directory, then switch atomically to serve that instead
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• 129[02:18:02] <sney> smashgrab: yep, common occurrence after using the netinstall. I thought it was changed in the testing installer, but they must have reverted it for now.
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• 132[02:20:38] <sney> cluelessperson: in any case, #debian is a support channel, so if you want to discuss contributions, you may be better off in e.g. #debian-mentors on OFTC or various mailing lists. also check out pabs's debian wishlist, and see if any of your ideas match: replaced-url
• 133[02:21:50] <cluelessperson> sney, thanks. I'll check those out as I am interested contributing in other ways, but at the moment I'm focused and have skills for this specific thing. Thanks. :)
• 134[02:22:09] <cluelessperson> sney, hm, #debian-mentors is an invite channel. :P
• 135[02:22:18] <sney> on OFTC. right now you are on freenode.
• 136[02:22:22] <sney> !oftc
• 137[02:22:23] <dpkg> OFTC is the Open and Free Technology Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC network: irc.oftc.net. You may (or may not) be connected to OFTC's network. replaced-url
• 138[02:22:26] <cluelessperson> ah
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• 147[02:34:13] <SpungeBob> !freenode
• 148[02:34:13] <dpkg> freenode (formerly Open Projects Network) is a service of the Peer-Directed Projects Center, an IRS 501(c)(3) corporation. They have an IRC network, irc.freenode.net, and you can visit their web page at replaced-url
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• 170[03:04:31] *** themill changes topic to 'Current Debian release is buster, 10.7 point release /msg dpkg 10.7; /msg dpkg buster; /msg dpkg stretch->buster; /msg dpkg apt suite changed | Stretch has limited LTS support: /msg dpkg stretch-lts ; /msg dpkg 9.13 | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg paste | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | testing/unstable: #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net | chanlogs: /msg dpkg irclog'
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• 174[03:17:24] <SpungeBob> i haz wee wee
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• 222[04:08:04] <oops> 1, how to find whether qt be installed on pc ? 2, how to install qt?
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• 226[04:10:37] <dvs> ,v qt5
• 227[04:10:38] <judd> No package named 'qt5' was found in amd64.
• 228[04:11:07] <themill> oops: you might need to be more precise. What are you trying to achieve? Qt5 is a highly modularised library.
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• 230[04:11:54] <Minall> Hello Debian Community... I can't download the netinstall from the official page, URL not found
• 231[04:12:18] <sney> looks like the links haven't been updated to match today's point release. replaced-url
• 232[04:13:18] <dvs> oh 10.7 is out?
• 233[04:13:39] <Minall> Thanks sney!
• 234[04:13:43] <dvs> replaced-url
• 235[04:13:52] <dvs> oh duh
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• 237[04:14:05] <Minall> What does Debian 10.7 has?
• 238[04:14:12] <themill> !10.7
• 239[04:14:13] <dpkg> Debian 10.7 was released on Dec 5, 2020. This point release corrects some serious bugs and copies security updates across to the main archive.. Further details are at replaced-url
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• 241[04:15:56] <oops> themill: i install a application called "qucs" , after "./configure", prompting "checking for Qt headers... configure: error: not found
• 242[04:15:56] <oops> configure: error: ./configure failed for qucs
• 243[04:15:56] <oops> ". then i guess that qt might not be installed
• 244[04:16:31] <themill> oops: is qucs ported to Qt5 yet?
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• 246[04:16:59] <themill> (it was removed from Debian some years ago because it was still Qt4 only)
• 247[04:18:29] <sney> oops: header files are packaged separately in debian and not installed by default, you will find them in packages with names ending in -dev. but check on what themill said first, as it may not even be current enough for the software available in debian 10
• 248[04:19:39] * sney is sure there's a dpkg factoid about that, but the search page isn't loading
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• 252[04:21:49] <oops> sney: first of all , how to view the qt version on my pc , i guess what themill said must be true about the qucs
• 253[04:22:10] <themill> The only Qt libraries in Debian are Qt5.
• 254[04:23:27] <sney> there's probably a cleaner way to do this, but 'apt list libqt5*' and look at the version numbers starting with 5.x
• 255[04:24:50] <themill> (Qt6 is about to come out and qucs upstream master "develop" branch is still using Qt4)
• 256[04:25:34] <Unit193> Though I believe the Qt team sent out a message they won't be packaging Qt6.
• 257[04:25:54] <sney> for bullseye, or for the forseeable future?
• 258[04:26:35] <oops> themill: i suppose you are very familiar with qucs , are there any alternative app for qucs ,
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• 260[04:27:10] <oops> i hope that app have gui feature
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• 262[04:28:16] <themill> Unit193: no, the two people within the Qt team said that they personally won't be doing so, the team most probably will
• 263[04:29:13] <sney> oops: maybe oregano, or gnucap?
• 264[04:29:39] <themill> or kicad
• 265[04:29:59] <Unit193> themill: Ah yes, the active members in the team. I found replaced-url
• 266[04:30:02] <themill> depends on what features you want. Qucs was quite good at being 'ok' at lots of things
• 267[04:30:13] <themill> Unit193: two of the active members
• 268[04:31:18] <themill> Unit193: The team is much bigger than those two; they happen to have been the ones looking after Qt5. They weren't he ones looking after Qt3, Qt4 etc
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• 271[04:32:07] <themill> (I'm not saying that these are not big shoes to fill, just that one can't extrapolate from that to anything about what will happen with Qt6 in Debian)
• 272[04:32:12] <Unit193> themill: Aha, OK. I'm (clearly) not really aware of the Qt team, just what I saw on d-d-a.
• 273[04:32:37] <Unit193> "So if you would like to have Qt 6 in the archive, you should consider stepping up for the job." And that line was a bit worrying.
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• 275[04:32:55] <themill> That's always how Debian expresses things, of course
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• 277[04:33:55] <themill> They just wanted to be explicit that they were not intending to commit to Qt6, where as the same people look after python2+3, gcc2...10, etc etc
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• 292[05:01:01] <Resilience> I would like to ask a couple questions on an off-topic, about remote administration (AMD pro and intel vPro), I know there is another channel more suited to this but mmm they think I am some kind of cybercriminal wannabie, do you mind if I ask here?
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• 294[05:02:46] <sney> if it's not related to debian use/administration, it's not appropriate for #debian
• 295[05:03:11] <Resilience> sney, that's why it si an off-topic as I said
• 296[05:03:22] <sney> then you already answered your own question
• 297[05:04:33] <arahael> On a different topic, I'm getting an Apple M1 tomorrow, so I was curious which Debian I could use to run on it (in virtualisation - not on the bare metal). But when I go to replaced-url
• 298[05:04:59] <themill> arahael: change the 10.6 to 10.7 in the url
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• 300[05:05:33] <arahael> Ah, cool, thanks for that.
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• 302[05:05:55] <arahael> That'll be an experience - virtualisation isn't quite ready yet either.
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• 441[08:53:20] <unixbsd> How to convert a gnuplot to png? I would like to not change the code qt/wcx/x11 terminal, but find a macro that gplot=>png...
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• 444[08:58:00] <themill> my recollection of gnuplot is that you: set term png / set output "foo.png" / replot / set term whateveritwas
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• 446[08:58:53] <themill> (I stopped using gnuplot over 20 years ago, however)
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• 449[09:03:48] <unixbsd> yeah but set term needs then to update the gplt code...:(
• 450[09:04:04] <unixbsd> isnt it a package that does convert direction a plot to png?
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• 456[09:09:20] <themill> there is no "plot" until it is drawn into whatever you have "set term foo"
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• 464[09:25:45] <unixbsd> often we can convert with gnuplot-x11 or gnuplot-qt for save as... but well, this takes a click. automatic would be cool
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• 487[09:59:27] <H-var> why is mouse tracking so bad and choppy on debian compared to windows?
• 488[09:59:53] <H-var> I just plugged in my mouse, and allowed both systems to install their own drivers automatically
• 489[10:01:02] <H-var> on windows it feels so smooth, and just pleasant, and on linux it feels like the way mouse manipulators worked when the first ever optical mice came out in early 2000's
• 490[10:01:18] <H-var> I remember how they felt just the way it feels right now on linux
• 491[10:01:49] <H-var> both have same refreh rate settings, and monitor is set to 165hz on both systems
• 492[10:01:59] <H-var> but the feeling is so different
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• 501[10:09:43] <droid3> serious for the complexity and pain staking time/effort for creating install packages for various debian , redhat , slackware , xxxbsd ,and other unix/linux variants
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• 503[10:10:18] <droid3> on should just create a website that automates and creates any or all of the target other then mac or windows platforms out there
• 504[10:10:55] <ratrace> droid3: you mean like the OBS?
• 505[10:11:06] <droid3> aka you upload an icon file , screenshot , you tar.gz files or source files and out pops you .deb , .rpm , ..tar.xz slackware files ...etc
• 506[10:11:18] <ratrace> replaced-url
• 507[10:11:39] <droid3> whats OBS you mean something different then open broadcasting software
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• 509[10:12:05] <ratrace> OpenSuSE Build Service. Note: it's not just about OpenSuSE, it's just their service...
• 510[10:12:45] <droid3> thats for opensuse and it doesnt cees to amaze me in the shit store move options
• 511[10:12:52] <droid3> that nobody ever uses
• 512[10:13:10] <ratrace> well... re-read again, it's not just for opensuse. you can use that service to build debian packages
• 513[10:13:40] <droid3> you need an installer script , a custom icon , screenshot , some descriptions and that it why the need for overcomplicated installs just makes everybody life difficult
• 514[10:14:01] <ratrace> Gave you the wrong link tho... this is the infomercial: replaced-url
• 515[10:14:01] <droid3> i betting nobody on earth uses all the features
• 516[10:14:06] <themill> If packaging were that simple, then that's all the linux distros would do
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• 518[10:14:38] <droid3> you just need to have install/uninstall script which put the shit where you want it to go / uninstall/cleans up the shit when you want to remove the software.
• 519[10:15:20] <themill> Except that most upstreams have zero idea how to produce software that integrates into an ecosystem, have broken installers, no ability to uninstall and aren't portable at all
• 520[10:15:31] <droid3> and then you want to make a good description , custom icon , few screenshots ...etc and your done then it should pop out the .rpm , deb ,...etc all the different flavors for any unix based system
• 521[10:15:56] <themill> If you think it's that easy, then go for it.
• 522[10:16:40] <droid3> ok we the other side is you have no installer because you still working on customizing /figuring out all the bullshit settings that half the time fail anyway
• 523[10:16:47] <droid3> but ok your opinion
• 524[10:17:20] <themill> Also, less swearing and more thinking will go down better.
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• 526[10:18:05] <droid3> how can i go for it when there a shit storm of security bullshit even hindering that with gpg keys ,....list goes on just to get close to a personal repo that everybody can use got forbid i touch a main repo or put shit in there. The whole world would come to an end
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• 528[10:18:44] <ratrace> that's why I prefer the source distros like gentoo. one can actually use portage on other distros. hint: ChromeOS does that, and some others. then ther's the netBSD's (I think?) pkg something something, also usable distro-agnostic. And 'fcourse ..... teh Nixos.
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• 530[10:19:27] <ratrace> pkgsrc. replaced-url
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• 556[10:43:47] <buhtz> Hello.
• 557[10:44:25] <buhtz> I read some tutorials and wiki ressources (e.g. replaced-url
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• 559[10:45:42] <buhtz> "The righty way" for me is that I connect a second PC to LAN2-port of the first PC. The second PC then appears as a "normal" client in the local network, it can use the internet connection and it can see all other clients in the local network.
• 560[10:46:09] <buhtz> The first PC is connected to the router (and its internet connection) via LAN1-Port.
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• 567[10:55:11] <ratrace> buhtz: it's not clear what your setup is and what you want to achieve. can you please summarize it in a pastebin with your network config?
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• 655[12:39:51] <buhtz> @ratrace Does this help? replaced-url
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• 665[12:47:59] <ratrace> buhtz: it doesn't
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• 710[13:53:13] <dob1> someone has cups installed? does the web admin page "spawn" the basic auth login dialog on firefox?
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• 713[13:54:27] <shtrb> that is not the default config , you need to enable it (and yes)
• 714[13:54:53] <dob1> on my system it just works on chromium
• 715[13:54:58] <dob1> I can't login via firefox
• 716[13:55:23] <shtrb> It allow you to enter without asking for a username and password on FF but does ask on Chrome ?
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• 719[13:56:20] <dob1> shtrb, on both I go to /admin page then I press "Add Printer" on firefox it hangs, on chromium it open the dialog for login
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• 722[13:59:07] <ratrace> last time I used a printer, with cups, was on stretch and there you could normally go to replaced-url
• 723[13:59:07] <dob1> shtrb, restarted firefox and It works
• 724[13:59:21] <dob1> ratrace, it requires an user in lpadmin group
• 725[13:59:31] <ratrace> not if you login as root
• 726[13:59:46] <dob1> I am doing it not on the local pc
• 727[13:59:50] <ratrace> at least, didn't, in Stretch. I don't know if there's any changes to default confg in Buster
• 728[14:00:00] <dob1> so I enabled remote access too
• 729[14:01:24] <shtrb> ratrace, FF shouldn't be sending the default connected user (no matter what group it is ) .
• 730[14:01:58] <shtrb> dob1, you should block everything , and only enabled a few (local ipv4 ips and not globally accessible IPv6 ips) who are allowed to connect
• 731[14:02:17] <cskr> When tracking testing, is there a point in keeping the security repository in sources.list? replaced-url
• 732[14:02:18] <cskr> codename>-security main entry in your apt sources.". The testing-security repo is empty.
• 733[14:02:23] <shtrb> Learn from my fail , move out IPv6 listening to local IPv4 non routable IPv6
• 734[14:02:37] <dob1> I put Allow 192.168.1.*
• 735[14:02:52] <shtrb> But what are you listening on ?
• 736[14:03:01] <dob1> *
• 737[14:03:15] <dob1> should I put Allow and then Deny All ?
• 738[14:03:19] <Dagger> listening on v6 is fine -- your router should be blocking v6 connections from the internet already (and if it isn't, make it do that)
• 739[14:03:38] <shtrb> dob1, If you listen on * you are also listening on your IPv6
• 740[14:03:59] <jelly> cskr: well. You shouldn't be tracking testing, you should track by explicit code name, eg. bullseye, and in that case keeping the (typically empty during testing) security repo enabled makes some sense
• 741[14:04:03] <shtrb> Dagger, why should your router block IPv6 acess ? it's your laptop / printer firewall to decide
• 742[14:04:16] <dob1> shtrb, but it's a pc behind a router
• 743[14:04:50] <dob1> (I am not an ipv6 expert)
• 744[14:04:51] <shtrb> dob1, so ? IPv6 ips are globally routable (no NAT anymore) it's the fun behind it
• 745[14:05:00] <jelly> cskr: if you use "testing" in sources.list you're going to have _massive_ breakage after the release when packages for bookworm start coming in
• 746[14:05:01] <Dagger> mainly because a lot of firewalls, including Linux's, don't support blocking connections from non-local networks
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• 748[14:05:11] <Dagger> and because people expect routers to block inbound connections by default
• 749[14:05:24] <shtrb> Dagger, block all , enable specific places
• 750[14:06:03] <shtrb> Dagger, People also trust and install Facebook , and .run and snaps ,doesn't mean we should be suggestion or even being quite about it.
• 751[14:06:10] <Dagger> okay, fine: they don't support enabling connections from local networks
• 752[14:06:21] <dob1> shtrb, so you should be able to access to it if I give you my ipv6 address?
• 753[14:06:42] <shtrb> yes, that the idea
• 754[14:07:04] <Dagger> dob1: I'd be happy to test, but it's likely you have a firewall blocking unsolicited inbound connections
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• 756[14:07:35] <cskr> jelly, tracking testing is a decision I took intentionally. I understand the risk of flood of updates after a stable release. However, do security fixes ever get added to testing-security repo? I'm wondering because the wikie specifically says, "<"testing" or codename>-security main entry"
• 757[14:07:41] <shtrb> Dagger, let us not teach people bad habbits of giving your personal information on public please ?
• 758[14:07:51] <dob1> shtrb, but It's just an internal ipv6 addreess, I don't have any ipv6 public address
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• 761[14:08:23] <shtrb> You and I know , that there is a good chance that his IP address are not using privacy extension and will have his mac address, today many MACs are tied to a person (like a phone number)
• 762[14:08:32] <shtrb> Dagger, ^
• 763[14:09:30] <dob1> it's not clear to me
• 764[14:09:44] <Dagger> and let us also not teach them to disable v6
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• 766[14:09:54] <shtrb> dob1, If your ISP would provide you an IPv6 prefix ,your pc would be having a globally routerable address, if however your ips are link local (fe80:::: it should not routable)
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• 768[14:10:13] <shtrb> Dagger, I never say to disable IPv6 , I said not to put cups to listen on IPv6 by default
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• 770[14:10:35] <Dagger> ...and let's not teach them to reconfigure services to not listen on v6
• 771[14:10:53] <shtrb> fair point :)
• 772[14:11:34] <shtrb> I should have suggested for him to allow listen on link-local address and IPv4.
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• 774[14:12:24] <dob1> your premis is If your ISP would provide you an IPv6 prefix
• 775[14:12:40] <shtrb> dob1, yes (that is the normal for me )
• 776[14:13:04] <jelly> cskr: IIRC it's happened (rarely) that right before a release something was uploaded there but that's going to be a very transient state
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• 778[14:14:16] <cskr> jelly, thank you.
• 779[14:14:39] <dob1> I have openwrt on my router, I am looking at ip a output, pppoe has not ipv6 address, ifb4pppoe-wan has 2 ipv6 address an ether one and an inet6 fe80:...
• 780[14:15:12] <jelly> cskr: so it doesn't really matter, if you're on testing you'll have to care about security on your own
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• 782[14:16:25] <shtrb> dob1, brb
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• 784[14:17:20] <ratrace> shtrb: "sending"?
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• 786[14:19:57] <shtrb|work> ratrace, ?
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• 789[14:20:56] <jelly> dob1: fe80: is just link-local address, not routable
• 790[14:21:12] <ratrace> shtrb: 14:01 < shtrb> ratrace, FF shouldn't be sending the default connected user (no matter what group it is ) .
• 791[14:21:25] <dob1> jelly, and the ether one?
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• 793[14:22:15] <jelly> dob1: is it in 2000::/3 ?
• 794[14:22:36] <dob1> jelly, no it stats with 2a
• 795[14:22:45] <jelly> that's the mac address
• 796[14:22:45] <shtrb> ratrace, by default the only reason for FF not to bump the User/Pass when connecting to a site when the site is configured with Auth, is if it is already setup (either via the url (replaced-url
• 797[14:23:09] <dob1> jelly, ops. right :)
• 798[14:23:23] <shtrb> dob1 , A 2A may be globally routable ip
• 799[14:23:43] <dob1> shtrb, it's the mac as jelly said, I was confused
• 800[14:24:01] <shtrb> oh I had missed jelly's comment , sorry
• 801[14:25:59] <dob1> shtrb, no problem, I am a bit worried after your considerations :)
• 802[14:26:19] <dob1> I never considered ipv6 as a threat
• 803[14:26:32] <Dagger> good, because it's not :|
• 804[14:26:35] <shtrb> step 1: make you are using privacy extensions for dhcp (network manager or anything like that)
• 805[14:28:10] <shtrb> dob1, always assume that each pc / laptop/ printer is having a public ip and go from there (even for IPv4) , it is harder to make mistakes in IPv4.
• 806[14:28:29] <Dagger> ...okay, fair, privacy extensions should be enabled. and inbound connections from outside the network should be blocked, but that's something you need to do for v4 anyway
• 807[14:29:20] <dob1> I don't find this privacy extension on openwrt configuration
• 808[14:29:33] <shtrb> dob1, the privacy extension are on client side
• 809[14:30:06] <shtrb> Windows , printers , Debian etc
• 810[14:30:15] <jelly> #openwrt channel is over there -> and if you don't have ipv6 from your provider you can still play with a he.net tunnel
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• 813[14:30:57] <dob1> ah client side
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• 815[14:31:16] <dob1> it's something that restring the connection just for resource on the lan ? something like this?
• 816[14:31:20] <dob1> *restrict
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• 821[14:32:35] <shtrb> no , it means that your IP will not have your MAC address , differnet level also mean on how long the IP will change (fixated , between reboots , by time etc)
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• 823[14:33:48] <dob1> I have to find it, I have some linux and a windows pc too, and a smartphone
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• 828[14:39:43] <shtrb> dob1, netsh int ipv6 set privacy state=? (what you prefer) , nmcli connection modify $NAME ipv6.ip6-privacy $VALUE (replaced-url
• 829[14:40:33] <Dagger> Windows will already have privacy extensions enabled... and I believe network-manager will too
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• 832[14:42:55] <dob1> I will search for it
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• 862[15:19:06] <sgo11> hi, how to use upower to check battery history in text format? thanks a lot.
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• 889[15:50:37] <Franciman> Hi, is it possible to debug PCI communcations?
• 890[15:51:09] <Franciman> I'd like to detect whether PCI stops transmitting
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• 892[15:51:13] <Franciman> interrupt messages
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• 895[15:54:03] <jelly> Franciman: sounds like a question for ##hardware
• 896[15:54:32] <Franciman> thanks!
• 897[15:55:24] <jelly> Franciman: as for linux, there's a multitude of ways to generate and process interrupts, and there's a counter at /proc/interrupts
• 898[15:55:53] <Franciman> hm I see, how do drivers usually work?
• 899[15:55:55] <jelly> watch -d cat /proc/interrupts
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• 901[15:56:22] <Franciman> how does the driver tell the system about its device interrupts?
• 902[15:56:47] <jelly> that really really depends on the hardware, the way the hardware is connected, PCI/PCIe capabilities of the bus and device
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• 904[15:57:49] <jelly> at boot time, and at PCI hotplug time, the kernel enumerates the PCI bus/tree and finds out which devices there are and tries to use the "best" irq method for each
• 905[15:58:10] <Franciman> my driver says it should use MSI
• 906[15:58:32] <jelly> you can see which method is used in /proc/interrupts
• 907[15:58:47] <jelly> if the driver is actually loaded and bound a device
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• 909[15:59:53] <jelly> lspci tool has various levels of verbosity to show capabilities present and active for each device
• 910[16:00:06] <Franciman> thanks a lot
• 911[16:00:17] <Franciman> I'd like to understand why the hell my device stops sending interrupts to the driver
• 912[16:00:35] <jelly> start debugging by looking at dmesg output
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• 914[16:01:02] <Franciman> unfortunately there is no output in dmesg. In fact, my bet is that the device (which runs a non free firmware) hangs
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• 919[16:01:36] <jelly> Franciman: can you tell us which device it is and which kernel version and debian version is running?
• 920[16:01:51] <Franciman> oh yes, it's a qca6174 qualcomm atheros wifi card
• 921[16:02:07] <Franciman> and I'm on debian 10.6
• 922[16:02:07] <jelly> show the output of "lspci -nn" for that thing
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• 925[16:02:47] <Franciman> jelly, replaced-url
• 926[16:03:16] <jelly> 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter [168c:003e] (rev 32)
• 927[16:03:19] <jelly> this?
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• 931[16:04:58] <jelly> Franciman: is that the device in question?
• 932[16:05:04] <Franciman> yes
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• 934[16:05:13] <jelly> Franciman: which kernel are you using right now? uname -a
• 935[16:05:31] <Franciman> right now I'm using 4.15 from ubuntu (because here it doesn't fail)
• 936[16:05:45] <Franciman> Linux francesco-XPS-13-9380 4.15.0-1030-oem #35-Ubuntu SMP Sat Dec 8 04:37:03 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
• 937[16:05:59] <jelly> ouch, 2018
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• 939[16:06:14] <Franciman> ehe, I'm trying to bisect the error, probably there is some regression
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• 942[16:07:18] <jelly> Franciman: it's also possible that ubuntu has custom patches for your hardware that never got upstreamed and never got into debian
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• 946[16:08:16] <jelly> Franciman: the simplest thing do might be to try a debian kernel from buster-backports, with matching firmware from the same place, see if that works better
• 947[16:08:23] <jelly> !bdo kernel
• 948[16:08:23] <dpkg> Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the <buster-backports> repository. After modifying your sources.list, run «apt update». To install the current backported kernel: «apt -t buster-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'».
• 949[16:08:33] <jelly> !buster-backports
• 950[16:08:33] <dpkg> Some packages intended for Bullseye (Debian 11) but recompiled for use with Buster (Debian 10) can be found in the buster-backports repository. See replaced-url
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• 956[16:10:14] <jelly> Franciman: so at the very least you'd need firmware-misc-nonfree for intel gpu firmware bits and firmware-atheros for ath10k_pci
• 957[16:10:35] <jelly> updated together with kernel
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• 962[16:15:29] <Franciman> jelly, I tried the backported versions
• 963[16:15:31] <Franciman> still no luck
• 964[16:15:55] <Franciman> jelly, also I tried ubuntu with 4.18 and ubuntu with 5.3 and they have the same problem
• 965[16:16:00] <Franciman> so there must be a regression in the driver
• 966[16:16:15] <jelly> Franciman: did you use the matching firmware versions?
• 967[16:16:20] <Franciman> I did
• 968[16:16:29] <jelly> good
• 969[16:16:46] <jelly> did you try telling ath10k_pci _not_ to use msi?
• 970[16:17:16] <Franciman> uh, that's interesting
• 971[16:17:19] <Franciman> I did not
• 972[16:17:28] <Franciman> I can try!
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• 974[16:17:57] <Franciman> but I'm pretty sure that it's the wifi card that hangs, because when I send some wmi messages, like a scan message, I get a timeout
• 975[16:18:04] <Franciman> the card gets restarted and then it briefly works
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• 977[16:18:43] <Franciman> also this issue happens exactly when my father's smartphone is connected to the same 5GHz wifi network :P
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• 981[16:20:35] <jelly> parm: irq_mode:0: auto, 1: legacy, 2: msi (default: 0) (uint)
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• 983[16:23:33] <Franciman> jelly, does msi have any problem?
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• 985[16:24:45] <jelly> if you see setting option ath10k_pci irq_mode=1 makes any difference, then you can answer that question yourself
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• 987[16:25:17] <Franciman> lol
• 988[16:25:18] <Franciman> thanks
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• 990[16:25:33] <jelly> ath10k_core seems to be hiding more debug options
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• 992[16:26:28] <jelly> I think I have a similar card somewhere...
• 993[16:27:05] <jelly> oh, in the tp-link router. 01:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros QCA986x/988x 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter [168c:003c]
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• 1003[16:34:40] <Franciman> jelly, sorry, is there a way to understand which PCI lane I'm using for the card?
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• 1005[16:36:34] <jelly> no idea, also, a single card might use multiple lanes. Also, if there were PCIe issues the kernel would probably complain.
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• 1008[16:38:00] <jelly> Franciman: you could try a 4.15 debian kernel from snapshots and some in between
• 1009[16:38:06] <jelly> !snapshot
• 1010[16:38:06] <dpkg> replaced-url
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• 1012[16:39:08] <GNU\colossus> lanes just tranlate to more bandwidth/link speed. `sudo lspci -vv` displays that info.
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• 1014[16:39:25] <GNU\colossus> (but as jelly said, it's unlikely you have a PCI-level problem with the card)
• 1015[16:39:46] <Franciman> wo thanks a lot for the snapshot
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• 1018[16:42:35] <Franciman> understood
• 1019[16:42:51] <Franciman> jelly, I guess that's what I'm gonna do
• 1020[16:42:57] <Franciman> I am over with this ubuntu strangeness
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• 1022[16:43:57] <Franciman> does ubuntu have a git repo for the kernel versions?
• 1023[16:44:13] <Franciman> that'd help a lot because I could use git bisect and jump to the important commits only
• 1024[16:44:22] <Franciman> err
• 1025[16:44:25] <Franciman> does debian*
• 1026[16:44:26] <Franciman> sorry
• 1027[16:44:33] <jelly> both do.
• 1028[16:44:42] <Franciman> ubuntu seems to cut the history at each release
• 1029[16:44:53] <Franciman> I'd love a continuous history
• 1030[16:44:53] <Franciman> :P
• 1031[16:44:57] <Franciman> from 4.15 to 4.19
• 1032[16:45:26] <jelly> replaced-url
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• 1036[16:46:39] <Franciman> thank you T.T
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• 1038[16:46:50] <Franciman> this is awesome
• 1039[16:47:22] <jelly> no, this. is. gitlab.
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• 1041[16:47:47] <ratrace> sparta?
• 1042[16:48:14] <jelly> SALSA
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• 1044[16:49:21] <ratrace> no thanks, I rhumba
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• 1047[16:51:05] <darutoko> can some one recommend backup software for desktop use? I want to choose which folders to backup< where and how often.
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• 1050[16:51:52] <Franciman> darutoko, maybe resilio sync?
• 1051[16:52:19] <dvs> darutoko: rsnapshot?
• 1052[16:53:02] <darutoko> thank you, I'll look at them
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• 1054[16:53:40] <ratrace> deja dup?
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• 1057[16:56:42] <Franciman> sney, you said ubuntu has a unique history too?
• 1058[16:57:03] <Franciman> I think they hate me on #ubuntu after I said I wanted to sue canonical
• 1059[16:57:22] <Franciman> because I could not get the source code of linux-4.18 from apt
• 1060[16:57:31] <shtrb> LOL
• 1061[16:58:30] <Franciman> err
• 1062[16:58:31] <Franciman> jelly*
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• 1067[17:03:08] <punkgeek> I hve this error when I want to install any kinds of environment in ubuntu 12.04 or debian 10. replaced-url
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• 1071[17:08:50] <eth01> hi, anybody here familiar with 'swapoff -a' ?
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• 1073[17:11:30] <another> what do you mean? what's there to be familiar with?
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• 1076[17:13:19] <konna44> Hi, just did dist-upgrade and got this error while upgrading kernel: Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 4.19.0-13-amd64 cannot be found
• 1077[17:13:26] <konna44> here's more: replaced-url
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• 1079[17:14:01] <konna44> I don't have any kernel headers installed and I think I don't have any DKMS packages either so should I care about this?
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• 1083[17:15:53] <konna44> oh, actually I have wireguard-dkms ... but did I get this error when I installed it originally... not sure.
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• 1094[17:35:48] <konna44> :O
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• 1099[17:43:31] <maxrazer> What does the "find" command do if I use it without the "-name" flag? It seems to search and tells me no files or directories with the supplied argument, but there is. It can only find the directory or file if I use "-name"
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• 1109[17:48:02] <koollman> maxrazer: it doesn't say that when I try it
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• 1111[17:48:38] <koollman> it lists the file given as an argument, or if the argument is a directory, it lists its content recursively
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• 1151[18:41:39] <sway> Is there a known problem with installing gnome-contacts on a 10.6 / Mate system ? Using the software app, it says it installed but the app is not showing in any of the DE menu items.
• 1152[18:42:47] <sway> And running 'apt search gnome-contacts' it shows as (installed) ?
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• 1160[18:47:43] <towo`> maybe because it needs gnome-shell, which you do not use?
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• 1162[18:48:34] <jmcnaught> sway: it has the line OnlyShowIn=Gnome;Unity; in its .desktop file: /usr/share/applications/org.gnome.Contacts.desktop
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• 1166[18:50:29] <sway> jmcnaught, That would be why then !! Thank you.
• 1167[18:52:34] <sway> towo`, learning curve :)
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• 1258[20:21:44] <cybrNaut> can someone plz decode this version for me? "4:0.161.3015+git4c2aafd-dmo0~bpo9+1"
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• 1260[20:22:34] <cybrNaut> the man page doesn't say what the "4:" is, or the parts after the "~" and "+"
• 1261[20:22:44] <jmcnaught> cybrNaut: replaced-url
• 1262[20:23:31] <cybrNaut> thanks
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• 1264[20:24:39] <jhutchins> Cypher100: What's the package?
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• 1267[20:29:54] <jhutchins> cybrNaut: What package are you working with?
• 1268[20:29:58] <jhutchins> Cypher100: Oops.
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• 1289[20:47:21] <cybrNaut> jhutchins: that version was just a cherry-picked sample of a complex version#. The actual package I'm messing with is mythtv-frontend
• 1290[20:48:44] <jhutchins> cybrNaut: Just curious, sometimes people have a little extra knowledge of the versioning.
• 1291[20:48:53] <jhutchins> ,v mythtv-frontend
• 1292[20:48:54] <judd> Package: mythtv-frontend on amd64 -- stretch-multimedia: 0.28.2-dmo1+deb9u1; buster-multimedia: 30.0+fixes20201003.git622c94965e-dmo1+deb10u2; bullseye-multimedia: 31.0+fixes20201018.giteb3c84de5f-dmo2; sid-multimedia: 31.0+fixes20201018.giteb3c84de5f-dmo2
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• 1294[20:49:44] <cybrNaut> My problem is that an Ubuntu host is running mythtv-backend ver# 32.0. I need a Debian host to run a version of mythtv-frontend that matches it. But on Debian nothing is newer than 30.0
• 1295[20:50:16] <jhutchins> cybrNaut: You could downgrade the version on the Ubuntu box.
• 1296[20:50:38] <cybrNaut> I tried backports and also deb-multimedia, and deb-multimedia backports, and still nothing exceeds 30.0.
• 1297[20:51:22] <sney> could use the dsc from ubuntu to rebuild that same 32.x package on the debian host, if you don't mind having a toolchain on it
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• 1299[20:51:28] <cybrNaut> jhutchins: downgrading is not likely possible b/c every version changes the db, so the db would have to be migrated for an older version
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• 1302[20:53:02] <cybrNaut> it's a bit baffling b/c mythty.org says the latest release is 31.0, so Ubuntu is really bleeding edge it seems
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• 1305[20:53:43] <sney> ubuntu has no qualms shipping packages based on upstream's devel branches or random stuff from github, it's really incredible
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• 1310[21:03:43] <brachamh> ubuntu is like microsoft: "it should work, so here ya go!"
• 1311[21:04:14] <short-bike> brachamh: +1
• 1312[21:05:32] <brachamh> that's why i switched to debian
• 1313[21:05:42] <brachamh> as soon as i had half an idea what i was doing
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• 1315[21:07:20] <short-bike> I tried ubuntu once, by accident.
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• 1317[21:09:52] <cybrNaut> well i'm tempted to try the Ubuntu version on Debian. In the worst case I have to delete the pkg & restore /etc/apt/sources.list
• 1318[21:10:14] <brachamh> +
• 1319[21:10:31] <brachamh> oops
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• 1321[21:11:16] <cybrNaut> shit it came from a PPA. I'm not dealing with that.. i'll just forget about it
• 1322[21:12:48] <brachamh> ok so apparently my server's /home partition is too small...so i have to (re)move the swap partition which is next, expand the /home partition, and then create a new swap partition.
• 1323[21:13:03] <brachamh> i can't be using any of those partitions while i do that, can i?
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• 1325[21:14:02] <cybrNaut> brachamh: i guess you'll need to boot a live USB image to do that
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• 1328[21:14:48] <brachamh> yup and apparently i need to set up a live usb that's not for uefi
• 1329[21:14:50] <cybrNaut> or perhaps you can logout, and login as root on a tty
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• 1331[21:15:26] <cybrNaut> root doesn't need /home mounted, i don't think
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• 1333[21:15:43] <brachamh> hmmm...that's a thought.
• 1334[21:15:59] <short-bike> turn swap off too.
• 1335[21:16:47] <brachamh> i have docker containers running out of the /home partition...i'd probably just have to stop the appropriate containers first too...?
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• 1344[21:25:25] <quadrathoch2> yes brachamh
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• 1355[21:39:08] <peterrooney> stunned by icedove upgrade altering things in $HOME
• 1356[21:39:18] <brachamh> apparently the live iso i have is a uefi only
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• 1360[21:46:45] <peterrooney> currently digging through backups to figure out waht they did. not positively impressed.
• 1361[21:48:02] <quadrathoch2> brachamh what iso do you have?
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• 1367[21:53:10] <brachamh> quadrathoch2, debian-live-10.5.0-amd64-mate.iso
• 1368[21:53:50] <quadrathoch2> brachamh that should be legacy bootable for sure
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• 1370[21:54:28] <sney> if it was copied to the usb drive with one of those tools that repacks the iso, it's possible that the bootloader was mangled
• 1371[21:54:55] <brachamh> i used etcher last time, and dd this time
• 1372[21:55:22] <sney> hmm, not that then
• 1373[21:55:39] <tomreyn> to the raw storage, or toa partition?
• 1374[21:55:45] <brachamh> raw
• 1375[21:56:09] <tomreyn> hmm, sounds like it should have worked then
• 1376[21:56:46] <brachamh> yeah. seems to me i had issues getting this machine to boot off of usb back when i first set it up
• 1377[21:57:04] <short-bike> Something in BIOS that needs a tweak maybe ?
• 1378[21:57:13] <brachamh> already done
• 1379[21:58:19] <tomreyn> why is this? "apparently i need to set up a live usb that's not for uefi"
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• 1381[21:59:56] <brachamh> old system, no uefi...
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• 1383[22:00:23] <tomreyn> doh that old, i see.
• 1384[22:00:45] <ahylight> what are the different NTFS drivers? ntfs-3g vs paragon-soft-driver vs another one?
• 1385[22:01:01] <brachamh> well, it's about ten years old...i don't remember when uefi came out, but this thing doesn't have it
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• 1387[22:01:40] <tomreyn> oh 10 years isn't that old. i was expecting older.
• 1388[22:02:01] <tomreyn> ahylight: you got replies to this cross posted question in ##linux
• 1389[22:02:05] <brachamh> fair enough. still seems to be old school
• 1390[22:02:52] <ahylight> tomreyn, ok let's continue there, thanks!
• 1391[22:03:37] <brachamh> so i'm going to learn partition management (other than initial creation) from the command line
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• 1399[22:08:19] <Lokie> hello quick question. Is it possible to have a live cd image run only in cli?
• 1400[22:09:34] <sney> yes, the debian live 'standard' image doesn't even have a gui on the disc
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• 1402[22:11:41] <Lokie> ok thanks grabbing it. I am trying to configure partitions / luks / lvm and then debootstrap
• 1403[22:12:46] <Lokie> with the xfce one debootstrap failed mainly due to running out of space. Any tips for that?
• 1404[22:13:31] <jmcnaught> If you use a debian-installer image like netinst (not a live image) the installer can configure LUKS + LVM
• 1405[22:13:40] <MikeDebian> gnome shell system monitor extension seems to not work on Debian 10. Anyone has tried?
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• 1409[22:16:56] <Lokie> jmcnaught I tried that, it sends me to grub cmd after boot, trying to do it all manual
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• 1411[22:18:52] <Lokie> plus I imagined it should be possible to do all the steps manually, so I am wondering what I am doing wrong
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• 1414[22:21:15] <jmcnaught> Lokie: there is a guide to doing it manually in the install manual: replaced-url
• 1415[22:23:08] <jmcnaught> If you have not already tried using the guided partitioning for encrypted LVM then I would give that a try, if only to see how sets things up.
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• 1417[22:25:35] <Lokie> thank you will check it out
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• 1420[22:29:37] <another> Lokie: might want to use a grml if you want to do it manually
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• 1440[22:46:32] <brachamh> well this is fun, got my home partition resized, now re-setting up the swap partition
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• 1445[22:51:42] <brachamh> now reboot to get everything started up again...it should all work lol
• 1446[22:52:01] <sway> Anything other than update/upgrade to go from 10.6 to 10.7 ?
• 1447[22:52:58] <quadrathoch2> nope sway
• 1448[22:53:23] <sway> quadrathoch2, perfect. Thank you.
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• 1455[23:08:14] <brachamh> ok now i'm running into this: on boot, it stalls for a while and then says it gave up waiting for suspend/resume device
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• 1458[23:09:44] <brachamh> oh, think i found it
• 1459[23:09:55] <brachamh> gotta love internet search engines that work lol
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