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46 [00:50:37] <sponix> anything significant change for 5.9 ? I did my 1st 5.9 kernel and it failed to build anything dkms
47 [00:52:44] <AimHere> There's a bug in the Nvidia kernel that breaks CUDA, so if you're using that, you need to upgrade to the latest Nvidia drivers
48 [00:52:56] <AimHere> *nvidia driver
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50 [00:56:15] <AimHere> @sponix
51 [00:56:26] <Brigo> or download to 5.8
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53 [01:01:26] <sponix> decent recommendation. and I have a 5.8 kernel to fall back on
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58 [01:05:50] <sponix> yeah, seems I need to have fresh Nvidia, and ZFS to keep up with 5.9 - Fun
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66 [01:09:09] <ravanan> New Debian user here. Haven't installed firmware-iwlwifi that's been suggested online since I was curious about something in my lspci output.
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68 [01:09:32] <ravanan> Output in #flood
69 [01:10:50] <ravanan> Specifically, there's a line that says "Kernel Modules: iwlwifi" and the man page for lspci says it's basically a kernel module that's capable of handling my wifi adapter
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71 [01:11:22] <ravanan> I searched through /usr/lib/modules/kernel/../drivers/net/wireless/intel
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74 [01:11:34] <ravanan> And I found an iwlwifi.ko module there
75 [01:11:45] <ravanan> Is it sufficient if I load this to use my wifi adapter?
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82 [01:14:57] <packetS_> :-D
83 [01:15:27] <ravanan> Running lsmod reveals that iwlwifi has already been loaded
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96 [01:26:30] <alex11> lol there's a nano-tiny
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98 [01:26:39] <alex11> how much disk space do you *really* need to save...
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122 [01:49:03] <H-var> guys what do I type into sources.list to update to the testing channel of bullseye from buster?
123 [01:51:42] <themill> dpkg, buster->bullseye
124 [01:51:42] <dpkg> In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "buster" to "bullseye", remove lines like buster-backports, debian-multimedia <dmo>, and other 3rd party repos as they are known to cause issues then do: apt update && apt upgrade && apt full-upgrade. Note that testing is a <moving target> and may be buggy, and read the sid FAQ: replaced-url
125 [01:52:22] <H-var> replaced-url
126 [01:52:29] <H-var> I did like this?
127 [01:52:57] <sney> wow, that's exactly wrong.
128 [01:52:59] <roycroft> and don't forget the part about backing up the machine before you perform the upgrade
129 [01:53:07] <H-var> lol
130 [01:53:28] <H-var> can someone edit it and post the correct one on paste.debian.org please?
131 [01:53:29] <themill> H-var: yeah, that scores 0/10.
132 [01:53:36] <H-var> lol
133 [01:53:52] <themill> Sorry, people need to get at least 8/10 on that test to be allowed to run testing/
134 [01:53:59] <roycroft> you were already given explicit instructions on what to do
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136 [01:54:20] <H-var> * themill eats the key
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143 [01:56:17] <H-var> dpkg like this? replaced-url
144 [01:56:17] * dpkg smooches this? replaced-url
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147 [01:57:03] <sney> H-var: almost, see the part about disabling backports
148 [01:57:16] <H-var> yes, I'll remove that one too
149 [01:57:50] <n4dir> H-var: doesn't matter much, but i heard it a few times the last days: it unusual to say "testing *channel*". Most just say "testing".
150 [01:58:12] <H-var> thanks! It's time to do something stupid and format my disk once again lol
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156 [02:01:04] <H-var> thanks themill sney, n4dir and roycroft! I smooch you on the neck
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196 [02:20:44] <H-var> I did just that, but now I get errors about the security channel
197 [02:20:48] <H-var> replaced-url
198 [02:21:35] <H-var> should I disable it? Is it safe to upgrade without it working?
199 [02:23:17] <sponix> H-var: you most likely want irc.oftc.net #debian-next
200 [02:24:36] <H-var> I don't like where this is going lol. I'll rather stay with the stable release
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206 [02:29:42] <rjg61> hello, attempting to install buster with btrfs subvolvumes. i'm interupting the installation after disk partitioning, creating subvolvumes inside /target and manually mounting subvolumes before contining install. my understanding is while not offically supported this *should* work. Installaiton completes, but failing to get out of ramdisk unable to
207 [02:29:43] <rjg61> find init. So I'm probably screwing up the mounting the subvolvumes inside /target.
208 [02:29:51] <rjg61> Any suggestions or guides very much appreicated. fstab for reference: replaced-url
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234 [03:03:11] <darsie> My xfce(?) no longer automounts my usb card reader and imports photos. It's still configured in settings/removable drives and media.
235 [03:03:36] <darsie> Card shows up in /var/log/messages
236 [03:03:41] <beelzebuzz> darsie: update kernel and not reboot yet?
237 [03:03:44] <darsie> I can fsck it.
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240 [03:04:01] <darsie> I rebooted without kernel update.
241 [03:04:09] <spacedust> nice
242 [03:04:12] <darsie> :)
243 [03:04:36] <beelzebuzz> only time i get usb automount problems is forgetting to reboot after update so not sure
244 [03:04:51] <darsie> no kernel upgrades pending.
245 [03:05:05] <n4dir> but you can mount it "manually" ?
246 [03:05:38] <n4dir> i'd probaly also create a new -test- user and see if he has the same problems.
247 [03:06:06] <n4dir> before finding someone who has a clue how xfce4 automount works.
248 [03:06:48] <darsie> n4dir: I can. pics are there.
249 [03:07:00] <spacedust> uses mana, magic, maybe you out of mana
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251 [03:07:04] <n4dir> yeah, sorry, i would not know more. good luck
252 [03:07:35] <darsie> Maybe reformatting the card reinstalls the magic.
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254 [03:07:47] <darsie> Hmm, still would have to get mounted first.
255 [03:08:00] <n4dir> asking an xfce user in another channel, don't hold your breath, perhaps he is afk
256 [03:08:16] <beelzebuzz> we have #xfce on freenode btw
257 [03:08:35] <darsie> I wasn't sure if #xfce or #debian is more on topic.
258 [03:08:53] <beelzebuzz> either one. just most are idle as usual
259 [03:09:07] <spacedust> thunar-volman automount
260 [03:09:24] <spacedust> replaced-url
261 [03:10:17] <scrul00se> I have one (1) clue how xfce4 automounting works: I'm pretty sure gvfs is involved. As for how gvfs works... that I don't know.
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263 [03:11:24] <spacedust> scrul00se: yeah i bet thunar uses gvfs, same i have not much clue how gvfs works and i dont reall care neither :)
264 [03:12:28] <darsie> thunar-volman: Must specify the sysfs path of new devices with --device-added.
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277 [03:26:24] <epsilonKNOT> o/
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286 [03:33:39] <epsilonKNOT> what are the chances that if I submit a RFP someone might actually package it :(
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290 [03:40:53] <themill> It's pretty rare but occasionally someone sees things in WNPP and thinks "yes, that's an itch I'd like to scratch"
291 [03:43:14] <n4dir> epsilonKNOT: i lost contact, but stevepusser as a long time forums.debian member and part of the MX distribution is often willing to help with packaging. If you really only want the package as a deb, not necessarily it being part of the official debian repos.
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294 [03:43:43] <n4dir> of course with the according warning what it means adding anything but official repo apps to the system. That is your choice
295 [03:44:09] <n4dir> they also had and perhaps still have the community repos, where you sometimes find stuff
296 [03:44:43] <n4dir> which package we speak of might be of help
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308 [04:00:15] <rjg61> hello, attempting to install buster with btrfs subvolvumes. i'm interupting the installation after disk partitioning, creating subvolvumes inside /target and manually mounting subvolumes before contining install. my understanding is while not officially supported this *should* work. Installaiton completes, but failing to get out of ramdisk unable
309 [04:00:15] <rjg61> to find init. So I'm probably screwing up the mounting the subvolumes inside /target.
310 [04:00:24] <rjg61> Any suggestions or guides very much appreicated. fstab for reference: replaced-url
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342 [04:41:40] <n4dir> - /etc/default/grub ; i'd guess
343 [04:42:08] <allan_wind> ah... yeah :-)
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525 [09:53:07] <jpcooper> Hello. I've installed libboost-1.71-all, and the future class doesn't seem to be available. Is it available in another package that I can install?
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527 [09:53:30] <jpcooper> I am looking for the future class as mentioned here: replaced-url
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582 [10:45:00] <queip> how to list which UIDs run any processes?
583 [10:45:04] <queip> other than sort on ps aux
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585 [10:45:58] <queip> ok actually, how to enter the mode where only root account works and almost all daemons, and all users, are logged out/stopped, like for backup or disk repair
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590 [10:48:34] <queip> telinit 1 ?
591 [10:48:56] <ksk> Eh, you are looking for runlevels, I am not quite sure about the systemd implications thugh
592 [10:49:10] <ksk> Like there is a reduced number of levels now I think
593 [10:49:14] <queip> thanks systemd for making everything harder
594 [10:49:23] <ksk> systemd calls them targets.
595 [10:49:56] <ksk> replaced-url
596 [10:49:59] <queip> telinit 1 seems to worked
597 [10:50:24] <ksk> "Run level 1 is matched by rescue.target (and runlevel1.target is a symbolic link to rescue.target)."
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800 [13:17:38] <NetTerminalGene> guys, how can i apply this command? copy and paste doesn't work. replaced-url
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807 [13:22:40] <kristijonas> Hi! Does anybody know what is the best way to enable DNS-over-TLS in the current stable?
808 [13:22:52] <abrotman> NetTerminalGene: you can remove all the linebreaks and \ to make it a single line
809 [13:22:58] <abrotman> copy/paste should work though
810 [13:23:18] <NetTerminalGene> abrotman: thanks
811 [13:26:12] <abrotman> kristijonas: are you trying to do this natively, or just any way possible?
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813 [13:27:45] <kristijonas> abrotman, well, natively. As I understand, current stable doesn't use systemd-resolved, in which I'd know how to enable it
814 [13:28:25] <abrotman> Right .. so you'd have to setup your own resolver locally, and then use that to pass things via DoT
815 [13:28:42] <abrotman> you could try something like stubby
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817 [13:29:12] <abrotman> There are a bunch of docs about how to make this work on older systems
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819 [13:29:16] <abrotman> but tehy're all a bit hacky
820 [13:29:42] <taman> kristijonas, I do that with unbound. Can paste conf if you're otherwise stuck.
821 [13:30:46] <abrotman> Right, unbound is another method. but either stubby or unbound, lots of docs out there
822 [13:31:02] <kristijonas> found this replaced-url
823 [13:31:16] <doubleqp> Interesting one.. when I'm trying to run a speedtest while I've wireguard enabled I get sometimes "[error] Cannot read: Resource temporarily unavailable". Looks to me I'm running in some kind of limits. With wireguard disabled I don't get this error. I checked my ulimits already (open files / processes) and adjusted them for the entire OS. However, since wireguard is embedded in the kernel these days and making use of kworker it doesn't adhere
824 [13:31:16] <doubleqp> the ulimits configured on both the system and user config.
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828 [13:31:36] <doubleqp> already tried running strace as well but it doesn't give me much info once the error occurs.
829 [13:31:59] <doubleqp> The main issue is that it doesn't only happen with a speedtest, also when I download a large file for example
830 [13:32:18] <doubleqp> question is whether it is actually a ulimit limitation I'm running into or something else is going on. Nothing in syslog or kern.log..
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845 [13:39:36] <Deyaa> Hello
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847 [13:41:06] <Deyaa> My /home/user/.local/bin python scripts doesn't work in terminal??
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851 [13:44:16] <abrotman> What does it do?
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867 [13:58:32] <wyoung> Hi
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885 [14:10:53] <Rodon> if anyone installed libxft-bgra package in buster for colored emojis support in dwm .. please give the link.
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894 [14:20:26] <goring> replaced-url
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897 [14:22:57] <no112_> What the hell?
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901 [14:25:47] <abrotman> goring: Wrong channel?
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1087 [16:57:47] <aphorise> My service is logging to /var/log/messages - how do I set it up so that it logs to its own file? - I have jounalctl & systemd setup but just forgot what else I'm missing here.
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1091 [17:03:21] <overlisted> your own systemd message?
1092 [17:03:26] <overlisted> service*
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1107 [17:12:28] <petn-randall> aphorise: If you service is logging to syslog, it's your rsyslog config that decides what goes where.
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1110 [17:14:18] <petn-randall> aphorise: You'll either have to change your service to log to file, or change your service to syslog to its own "facility" (a syslog term) and then configure rsyslog to write those logs to a separate file.
1111 [17:14:30] <aphorise> petn-randall sure - I just dont know how get this service to output to its onw.
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1113 [17:14:35] <petn-randall> Feel free to ask for details, this is really shortened down.
1114 [17:14:52] <petn-randall> aphorise: What service is it, and what is it written in?
1115 [17:15:01] <aphorise> So I see some definitions already in /etc/rsyslog.conf - but hwo I do I set this up #?
1116 [17:15:26] <Haohmaru> ,v elmerfem-csc
1117 [17:15:27] <judd> No package named 'elmerfem-csc' was found in amd64.
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1119 [17:16:12] <aphorise> petn-randall its a web-service .deb file I've downloaded and setup accordingly to a guide.
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1122 [17:17:08] <aphorise> I've set it up to run as its own user 'webs1'
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1129 [17:23:13] <rootkea> Hello! I installed Debian 10.6.1 Buster on Acer Switch 10 (Bay Trail processor with Intel HD graphics) a week back and have been fixing various issues since then. :) Anyways, so I see "i915 0000:00:02.0: [drm] *ERROR* Failed to get the SoC PWM chip" and changing backlight via xfce4-power-manager or `echo $n > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness` doesn't change screen brightness.
1130 [17:23:35] <rootkea> I'm on 5.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 kernel
1131 [17:24:15] <rootkea> * I see that i915 ERROR message during boot
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1134 [17:24:58] <Lachezar> Hey all. Page replaced-url
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1136 [17:25:28] <Lachezar> But maybe only in Bulgarian language...
1137 [17:26:55] <jelly> Lachezar: thanks, I'll relay that to #debian-replaced-url
1138 [17:27:07] <Celmor[m]> I'm wondering why apt is trying to connect via ipv6 instead of ipv4 and therefore timing out
1139 [17:27:16] <jelly> Lachezar: is the link on the main page top right correct?
1140 [17:27:39] <Lachezar> jelly: No, it's in the list of releases.
1141 [17:28:05] <diogenes_> rootkea, most likely you have to play around acpi_backlight kernel parameters.
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1144 [17:30:12] <rootkea> Lachezar, s/stretch/buster and send MR replaced-url
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1146 [17:30:57] <rootkea> diogenes_, I tried all four params mentioned at replaced-url
1147 [17:31:19] <rootkea> acpi_backlight=video, vendor, native and none
1148 [17:31:56] <diogenes_> rootkea, there's more, let me see.
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1150 [17:33:47] <jelly> rootkea, Lachezar: submitted already. replaced-url
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1152 [17:34:42] <rootkea> jelly, +1
1153 [17:35:24] <diogenes_> rootkea, pastebin: sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows
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1156 [17:36:08] * jelly forgot he had some rights in that project
1157 [17:36:51] <petn-randall> aphorise: Then I'd check the documentation of this web service how to configure logging.
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1160 [17:39:10] <rootkea> diogenes_, replaced-url
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1163 [17:40:32] <diogenes_> rootkea, you can try this one: acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\"Windows 2013\" (or acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\"Windows 2012\")
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1173 [17:51:42] <rootkea> diogenes_, I tried both 1. acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\"Windows 2013\" and 2. acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\"Windows 2012\" but same symptoms. Brightness doesn't change when 1. use xfce4-power-manager or 2. /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness file. And same i915 ERROR message during boot.
1174 [17:52:19] <rootkea> I suspect I'm experiencing replaced-url
1175 [17:52:20] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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1180 [17:53:48] <diogenes_> rootkea, but do you use intel or modesetting?
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1187 [17:54:53] <jelly> rootkea: do you in fact have a bay trail chipset netbook or media box or something?
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1190 [17:57:40] <rootkea> diogenes_, replaced-url
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1192 [17:58:29] <rootkea> jelly, it's Intel Atom Z3735F processor which comes under Bay Trail family iirc
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1194 [17:58:59] <rootkea> Acer Switch 10 laptop
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1200 [18:01:14] <diogenes_> rootkea, i know but there are 2 drivers, modesetting and intel, try to force the intel one to load via /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf (first install xserver-xorg-video-intel).
1201 [18:02:52] <rootkea> diogenes_, package is installed already and I tried /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf from arch wiki earlier in the day but sadly issue persisted.
1202 [18:03:06] <rootkea> replaced-url
1203 [18:03:44] <diogenes_> i see
1204 [18:04:56] <rootkea> replaced-url
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1206 [18:05:33] <rootkea> I would like to stick to kernel from repos
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1208 [18:06:08] <jelly> rootkea: yeah, I guess that would count as a netbook. Maybe ask #intel-gfx people if they know of any (other) workarounds
1209 [18:06:42] <jelly> ,kernels
1210 [18:06:43] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 5.10.0-rc4-686-pae (5.10~rc4-1~exp1); sid: 5.9.0-3-686-pae (5.9.9-1); bullseye: 5.9.0-3-686-pae (5.9.9-1); buster-backports: 5.8.0-0.bpo.2-686 (5.8.10-1~bpo10+1); buster: 4.19.0-12-686-pae (4.19.152-1); stretch-backports: 4.19.0-0.bpo.9-686-pae (4.19.118-2+deb10u1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.19.0-0.bpo.12-686 (4.19.152-1~deb9u1); jessie-backports:
1211 [18:06:44] <judd> 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 4.9.0-0.bpo.12-686 (4.9.210-1+deb9u1~deb8u1)
1212 [18:07:02] <jelly> 5.9 not backported yet
1213 [18:07:44] <rootkea> jelly, sure, Thanks! Can I install kernel (and other firmware packages) from experimental on stable?
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1215 [18:08:26] <jelly> rootkea: that may or may not be doable, but it does not hurt to try
1216 [18:09:04] <rootkea> Okay, will do! :)
1217 [18:09:10] <jelly> in general one shouldn't mix experimental with anything apart from sid (unstable), but the kernel packaging is mostly self-contained
1218 [18:11:30] <rootkea> Meanwhile, I have another issue - bluetooth. Which driver do I need? I don't see bluetooth adapter neither in lspci nor lsusb
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1223 [18:14:48] <jhutchins> rootkea: Try rfkill
1224 [18:15:38] <jhutchins> rootkea: If you need a working computer and are running anything beyond stable, be sure to make backups before you run upgrades.
1225 [18:17:19] <rootkea> jhutchins, Wow! rfkill shows "acer-bluetooth: Bluetooth"
1226 [18:17:38] <jelly> rootkea: bt ought to just work, but it might need firmware. pastebin your complete dmesg?
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1228 [18:18:12] <jelly> and it might be connected over something unusual on that chipset, like i2s
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1230 [18:20:19] <rootkea> When I try to run `blueman-manager`, a pop-up appears saying "Connection to BlueZ failed. Bluez daemon is not running, blueman-manager cannot continue. This probably means that there were no Bluetooth adapters detected or Bluetooth daemon was not started"
1231 [18:20:34] <rootkea> Guess I should look into bluez daemon?
1232 [18:21:07] <jelly> it's possible it autostarts when the device appears
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1237 [18:22:52] <Globon> hello. i got problem on ssh when i use together torsocks/torify. Using Debian buster. ERROR: ssh is setuid. torsocks will not work on a setuid executable.
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1239 [18:23:47] <jelly> Globon: ls -ld /usr/bin/ssh
1240 [18:24:08] <rootkea> jelly, sudo dmesg: replaced-url
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1242 [18:25:33] <rootkea> jelly, Please ignore that. That boot had additional kernel boot param.
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1244 [18:25:51] <rootkea> I'm uploading one from fresh vanilla boot
1245 [18:26:19] <jelly> Globon: show the output of that command, please
1246 [18:27:00] <jelly> Globon: in other words, does your ssh client really have a setuid on it? It shouldn't, and it does not have the setuid bit set by default
1247 [18:27:25] <Globon> replaced-url
1248 [18:27:44] <Globon> i did not change anything after setup debian buster. just installed tor but it not works.
1249 [18:28:09] <Globon> i did fresh setup, i was using torsocks on ssh 1 week ago at same distro
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1251 [18:28:33] <rootkea> jelly, $ sudo dmesg > replaced-url
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1253 [18:29:01] <jelly> Globon: that's not ls -ld but okay. I don't see a setuid on /usr/bin/ssh, and the setgid on ssh-agent does not seem relevant
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1255 [18:29:15] <jelly> Globon: your tool is misdetecting something
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1258 [18:31:36] <Globon> jelly, a part of /usr/bin/torsocks > replaced-url
1259 [18:32:32] <Globon> i tried to uncomment if - fi part on there. torsocks seems worked and connected server but actualy it did'nt work. it leaks my ip
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1262 [18:35:58] <jelly> rootkea: looks like that rtl8723bs is a combo wifi + bluetooth card
1263 [18:36:06] <jelly> [ 10.371589] RTL8723BS: rtl8723bs v4.3.5.5_12290.20140916_BTCOEX20140507-4E40
1264 [18:36:06] <jelly> [ 10.371591] RTL8723BS: rtl8723bs BT-Coex version = BTCOEX20140507-4E40
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1272 [18:38:24] <jelly> rootkea: install firmware-realtek from backports, see if that helps. Typically when you use a newer kernel, you also want matching firmware
1273 [18:39:10] <rootkea> jelly, firmwafre-realtek already from bpo installed
1274 [18:39:21] <jelly> hmm, okay then
1275 [18:39:31] <jelly> judd: file rtl8723bs.*bin --release buster-backports
1276 [18:39:32] <judd> No packages in buster-backports/amd64 were found with that file.
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1278 [18:39:40] <jelly> judd: file rtl8723bs.*bin --release buster
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1280 [18:39:45] <judd> No packages in buster/amd64 were found with that file.
1281 [18:39:49] <jelly> judd: file rtl8723bs*bin --release buster-backports
1282 [18:39:50] <judd> Search for rtl8723bs*bin in buster-backports/amd64: firmware-realtek: lib/firmware/rtlwifi/rtl8723bs_bt.bin, lib/firmware/rtlwifi/rtl8723bs_nic.bin, lib/firmware/rtlwifi/rtl8723bs_wowlan.bin
1283 [18:40:01] <jelly> rootkea: is /lib/firmware/rtlwifi/rtl8723bs_bt.bin in place?
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1286 [18:41:04] <rootkea> jelly, yes, it is there.
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1301 [18:49:24] <Globon> is making /usr/bin/ssh-agent chmod to 0755 and change user root:root safe?
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1315 [19:00:45] <shtrb> no
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1317 [19:01:47] <shtrb> Globon, it should be already preset properly (and owned by ssh )
1318 [19:01:54] <Globon> i'm going to be mad. i really love linux, passed my 5 years on main-os linux still i cant find a solution. that problem is really weird.
1319 [19:02:19] <jhutchins> Have we tried manually starting the bluez daemon?
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1321 [19:02:31] <shtrb> jhutchins, ?
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1328 [19:10:41] <jelly> Globon: again, ssh-agent has nothing to do with it. But try it and see.
1329 [19:10:51] <jelly> you can put it back as it was later.
1330 [19:11:31] <jelly> rootkea: it's interesting that the driver doesn't even try loading it
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1332 [19:12:06] <jelly> rootkea: perhaps you have to enable something using rfkill or a Fn key combo first?
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1344 [19:19:29] <Globon> jelly, root:root resulted same. are there any option to ungroup it? can we leave groups null?
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1346 [19:20:01] <rootkea> jelly, rfkill o/p says "Soft-blocked: no\n Hard-blocked: no" flor "acer-bluetooth: Bluetooth" entry. Also, I don't see any hardware switch for bluetooth. There was one with radio icon for wifi which I tried toggling. Made no difference for bt. Same error by blueman-manager. "Connection to BlueZ failed"
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1348 [19:20:46] <rootkea> s/flor/for
1349 [19:21:27] <jelly> Globon: no, a file always has user and group ownership on linux
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1351 [19:22:28] <jelly> Globon: again, the tool saying there's a setuid on ssh is not working right. It has a bug.
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1354 [19:25:56] <Globon> jelly, what comes interesting for me i will tell
1355 [19:27:17] <Globon> i have two debian buster. one of broken but i can access console. this was working great with torsocks ssh. i checked torsocks and it seems same version. i check ssh and ssh-agend, same permissions
1356 [19:27:59] <Globon> broken one still works torsocks ssh, and a new gave me error. and no source on web about this situation.
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1360 [19:32:47] <jelly> rootkea: is there anything bt related in bios?
1361 [19:34:54] <rootkea> jelly, No, there is not. Btw, I just reinstalled bluez from bpo but made no difference :/
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1369 [19:45:04] <jelly> it sounds more like a kernel or driver issue than anything in userspace
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1375 [19:52:26] <jhutchins> rootkea: Have you tried _starting_ bluez? You can't connect to it if it's not started.
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1381 [19:57:04] <kevinnn> hi all, I know this question is pretty unrelated but I have just installed a fresh copy of proxmox and for some reason I cannot run the lxc command
1382 [19:57:21] <RhineDevil> what's the difference betweek nullok and nullok_secure in pam.d? do they both allow null passwords for an ssh user?
1383 [19:57:28] <kevinnn> There basically no results on google for this...
1384 [19:57:30] <sney> kevinnn: ##proxmox
1385 [19:57:39] <kevinnn> sney: need an invite to ask there
1386 [19:57:55] <kevinnn> oh wow, I can access it now, weird
1387 [19:58:00] <sney> you probably just needed to be registered
1388 [19:58:11] <kevinnn> tx
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1414 [20:22:23] <rootkea> jhutchins, How do I do that?
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1429 [20:34:39] <unixbsd> which debian supports the zaurus 3100?
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1440 [20:41:37] <asterismo> hi, i have an old pc with a raid1 made with 2 ide/ata drives
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1443 [20:42:21] <asterismo> i installed debian 10 and as soon as i run update-grub, grub breaks and throw me ELF nonsense and grub rescue
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1445 [20:42:58] <asterismo> i ended up installing debian 7 and i have no problem running grub update (nedded when installing a new kernel)
1446 [20:43:33] <asterismo> now i'm dist-upgrading to jessie, is there anyway to keep old grub package from wheezy?
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1449 [20:47:44] <istrive> hi all, good afternoon and Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!
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1451 [20:48:39] <istrive> I have the string State: powered off (since 2020-10-26T15:39:19.000000000) from which I want to extract the powered off portion only, with cut -d\: I have from powered off forward
1452 [20:49:08] <istrive> how to remove the remaining text after that?
1453 [20:50:17] <istrive> all i want from this whole string it the [powered off] to work on my code
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1455 [20:50:57] <unixbsd> this is the running linux stuff on sharp 3100 (the regular dmesg: links termbin.com/cg1l ). is there a single debian having armv5 in repos?
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1489 [21:18:27] <f-a> I had a power outage while running apt-get install
1490 [21:19:09] <f-a> should I do anything or can I just resume what I was installing
1491 [21:19:41] <sney> depends on where it was in the process, but try resuming first
1492 [21:20:29] <f-a> sney: it worked, is there anything I should check in particular? (i.e. is there an `apt-get check`) or should I just carry on?
1493 [21:20:31] <istrive> how to use sed to extract the power off portion from the string
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1495 [21:20:51] <istrive> State: powered off (since 2020-10-26T15:39:19.000000000)
1496 [21:21:15] <sney> f-a: 'apt -f install' will fix any broken packages if there are any, but it doesn't sound like apt gave you any errors
1497 [21:23:12] <f-a> thanks
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1502 [21:30:39] <istrive> how to use sed to extract the power off portion from the string
1503 [21:30:40] <istrive> State: powered off (since 2020-10-26T15:39:19.000000000)
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1505 [21:31:19] <jhutchins> Can't really expect a troubleshooting dialog if you don't respond for half an hour.
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1507 [21:33:49] <Some_Person> Uh... I have a big problem... seem to have accidentally removed myself from all groups except one... I can't use sudo now
1508 [21:34:05] <sney> istrive: there is a ##sed on this network, if you ask the same question repeatedly and nobody answers it is a good sign that nobody here atm has an answer for you
1509 [21:34:26] <petn-randall> Some_Person: Can you log in as root?
1510 [21:34:32] <Some_Person> petn-randall: Nope
1511 [21:34:38] <Some_Person> Root doesn't have a password
1512 [21:34:44] <sney> Some_Person: use the following instructions from dkpg to get a root shell, then re-add yourself to those groups
1513 [21:34:46] <sney> !ifrp
1514 [21:34:47] <dpkg> For GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt.
1515 [21:34:59] <jhutchins> ... beat me to it.
1516 [21:35:02] <sney> (that is, steps 1-3)
1517 [21:35:05] <petn-randall> seconded
1518 [21:35:29] <petn-randall> I always forget that fmrp is for mysql, and then have to check to be sure.
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1520 [21:36:18] <Some_Person> What are all the groups a Debian user is in by default?
1521 [21:37:18] <jhutchins> Some_Person: sudo isn't one of them.
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1523 [21:37:47] <Some_Person> I must have been in sudo by default though. I created this user during the Debian install process, and did not give root a password
1524 [21:38:13] <jmcnaught> Some_Person: cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev netdev bluetooth lpadmin scanner
1525 [21:38:19] <jhutchins> Oh, yeah, I think it sets it up if you don't give root a password.
1526 [21:38:36] <jhutchins> I appear to be in <username> lp and scanner on this system.
1527 [21:38:40] <unixbsd> why this does not work? mkdir ~/debian ; cd ~/debian ; debootstrap --include=wireless-tools,mc,wpasupplicant,console-tools,alsa-base,alsa-utils --arch armel --foreign sid armel-stage1 replaced-url
1528 [21:39:16] <jhutchins> unixbsd: Which part doesn't work? What happens instead of what you expect?
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1530 [21:39:43] <unixbsd> E: Failed getting release file replaced-url
1531 [21:39:56] <jhutchins> unixbsd: If it's a sid specific problem you may need to ask in #debian-next on oftc.net
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1533 [21:40:25] <unixbsd> with stable: same: mkdir ~/debian ; cd ~/debian ; debootstrap --include=wireless-tools,mc,wpasupplicant,console-tools,alsa-base,alsa-utils --arch armel --foreign stable armel-stage1 replaced-url
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1535 [21:40:36] <jhutchins> unixbsd: The release file might ot be there for Armel.
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1537 [21:40:39] <jhutchins> !armel
1538 [21:40:39] <dpkg> armel is the Debian <ARM> EABI port, first released with Debian 5.0 "Lenny". replaced-url
1539 [21:40:44] <jmcnaught> unixbsd: why are you using debian-ports.org? Isn't armel still a supported architecture?
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1542 [21:41:08] <unixbsd> mkdir ~/debian ; cd ~/debian ; debootstrap --include=wireless-tools,mc,wpasupplicant,console-tools,alsa-base,alsa-utils --arch armel --foreign stable armel-stage1 replaced-url
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1544 [21:43:15] <jmcnaught> unixbsd: replaced-url
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1548 [21:45:22] <unixbsd> ok, it works: apt-get update ; apt-get install debootstrap -y ; debootstrap --no-check-gpg --arch armel --foreign --include=netbase,ssh,login,passwd,wpasupplicant stable . replaced-url
1549 [21:46:39] <unixbsd> thank you
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1565 [22:01:37] <unixbsd> yeah it works. apt-get update ; apt-get install debootstrap -y ; debootstrap --no-check-gpg --foreign --arch armel --include=netbase,gcc,clang,make,less,ssh,login,passwd,wpasupplicant stable . replaced-url
1566 [22:02:25] <unixbsd> after I copy the zImage and modules into /lib/modules, and let's try this 3100 zaurus.
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1636 [23:15:54] <lord4163> Hello
1637 [23:16:05] <sney> hi
1638 [23:17:48] <lord4163> I tried installing the packages openvswitch-switch and openvswitch-common, but the openvswitch-switch service won't start and therefore won't successfully install.
1639 [23:18:07] <lord4163> openvswitch-switch.service: Job openvswitch-switch.service/start failed with result 'dependency'.
1640 [23:18:34] <lord4163> Any ideas?
1641 [23:19:14] <sney> is there more log than just that one line? use replaced-url
1642 [23:22:01] <lord4163> Ah yes looking more in the log, it seems that it has a dependency service that fails as well: A start job for unit openvswitch-nonetwork.service has failed
1643 [23:22:14] <lord4163> Failed to start Open vSwitch Internal Unit.
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1646 [23:24:55] <sney> usually in the output of systemctl status there is something more specific than "a start job has failed" a few lines up. if there isn't, openvswitch may have its own error log in /var/log.
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1648 [23:25:41] <sney> some daemons that can affect system networking will ship with a default configuration that prevents the service from starting until the user sets it up explicitly, that may be the situation here
1649 [23:27:12] <lord4163> hm, rebooting worked?
1650 [23:28:36] <sney> odd, maybe you had a race condition somehow. good thing it worked but keep an eye on it
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1652 [23:31:05] <lord4163> sney: Oh I think a kernel module wasn't loaded, ignore my ignorance, I'm new to Open vSwitch
1653 [23:32:30] <lord4163> Alrighty, great :)
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1658 [23:34:10] <roycroft> hello, folks
1659 [23:34:16] <roycroft> and happy thanksgiving to them that are in the usa
1660 [23:34:45] <roycroft> i need to use a pre-release version of an application that does not have its own aptitude repository
1661 [23:35:12] <sney> is a previous version in debian?
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1663 [23:35:24] <roycroft> i was able to build the app on a build vm, but there are heaps of dependencies that i'll need to install it on the workstations
1664 [23:35:31] <roycroft> yes, a previous version is in debian
1665 [23:35:35] <sney> !uupdate
1666 [23:35:36] <dpkg> uupdate (in the <devscripts> package) upgrades a source code package from an upstream revision, or e.g. if the newest foo in debian is 1.2, and upstream is at 1.4: apt-get source foo; wget -nd replaced-url
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1668 [23:35:45] <roycroft> and i have installed that, but that version is soemwhat broken and is missing some critical features
1669 [23:35:55] <Wh0amI_> iai seus menino
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1671 [23:36:04] <roycroft> but as i said, the developers do not maintain a repository for it
1672 [23:36:12] <roycroft> so i can't do an update like that
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1674 [23:36:32] <sney> you said they don't maintain an apt repository. dpkg's instructions are to do with source releases.
1675 [23:36:40] <sney> this can also be a master tarball from github or whatever
1676 [23:36:41] <roycroft> what i want to do is create my own package
1677 [23:36:47] <sney> it basically sets up a directory to build the debian package.
1678 [23:37:03] <roycroft> ok, but i'll still have the same issues
1679 [23:37:36] <roycroft> most notably, the version that is part of the buster distribution uses python 2, while the pre-release version requires python 3
1680 [23:37:51] <sney> ok, so you'll need to tweak d/control a bit.
1681 [23:37:53] <roycroft> but there are dozens of other dependencies that are different to the old version
1682 [23:37:56] <roycroft> a *lot*
1683 [23:38:02] <roycroft> and i've done all the work on the build machine
1684 [23:38:06] <roycroft> what i want to do is package it up
1685 [23:38:12] <roycroft> so that i can install it on the workstations
1686 [23:38:49] <roycroft> i looked at dh_make, but it's not clear that that either is the appropriate tool, nor how i add all the dependencides to it
1687 [23:39:00] <sney> let me know when you're done typing
1688 [23:39:00] <Wh0amI_> How to put password on my debian grub?
1689 [23:39:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1187
1690 [23:39:07] <roycroft> it says to add them to the debian/control file, but does not document how to do so that i have discovered
1691 [23:40:11] <roycroft> it appears there are several tools for building packages, and right now i'd like to know what is the most appropriate one for what i'm doing
1692 [23:40:37] <Wh0amI_> query roycroft
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1694 [23:41:05] <sney> roycroft: is that the end of your question?
1695 [23:41:09] <roycroft> please do not use privmsg without permission, wh0ami_
1696 [23:41:14] <roycroft> that is the end of my question
1697 [23:41:20] <sney> Wh0amI_: this ubuntu doc looks current replaced-url
1698 [23:41:45] <jmcnaught> roycroft: what are you trying to build? If there is already a newer version in unstable it may be easier to do a backport.
1699 [23:41:59] <roycroft> freecad-0.19-pre
1700 [23:42:17] <jmcnaught> ,v freecad
1701 [23:42:18] <judd> Package: freecad on amd64 -- jessie: 0.14.3702+dfsg-3; stretch: 0.16+dfsg2-3; buster: 0.18~pre1+dfsg1-5; bullseye: 0.18.4+dfsg2-6; sid: 0.18.4+dfsg2-6
1702 [23:42:21] <sney> roycroft: ok, then here's my answer: use uupdate from devscripts to update the debian source package to the pre-release version you want to use. try to build it, if it fails, make slight adjustments to the *existing* debian/control as needed, (we can help with this) then use your new debian package on your workstations.
1703 [23:42:21] <jmcnaught> guess not
1704 [23:42:38] <roycroft> the freecad folks build appimages nightly, and they crash almost instantly when launched
1705 [23:43:45] <roycroft> sney: i should assume that the best way to accomplish that is to set up the build machine with the same environment as the workstations
1706 [23:44:06] <roycroft> and then install the debian package on that
1707 [23:44:10] <roycroft> then do the update
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1709 [23:44:27] <roycroft> i've already built the package on the build machine, and installed all the dependencies
1710 [23:44:47] <sney> roycroft: as long as it's the same debian version, it's ok, then you can use a tool like pbuilder to make the actual package free from any extra gunk
1711 [23:44:55] <roycroft> i can replicate that, but i think that if i just install the debian package now and then update, everything it needs will already be there
1712 [23:45:09] <roycroft> it is the same version
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1715 [23:46:53] <roycroft> i don't have debian sources installed on the build machine
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1717 [23:47:11] <sney> is that something you need help with?
1718 [23:47:26] <roycroft> if i just install the debian package i assume that i still won't have sources , so i should probably install sources first, no?
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1721 [23:47:45] <roycroft> i mainly need help with understanding what i need to do
1722 [23:47:51] <roycroft> how to do it i can sort out on my own
1723 [23:48:06] <roycroft> so install sources, install the debian package, then update that particular package
1724 [23:48:14] <sney> alright, here's the overview a different way:
1725 [23:48:16] <roycroft> and then tweak the debian/control file as needed
1726 [23:48:53] <roycroft> i'm not trying to be difficult
1727 [23:49:06] <roycroft> and i know you think i'm overly verbose, but i'm trying to be more succinct
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1729 [23:50:03] <sney> 1) combine the old debian package with the new source from upstream, to create a "debianized" source tree, version 0.19-pre. 2) run 'dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc' and see what happens. 3) adjust as necessary until the build process completes and you have an installable package. 4) run the .dsc through pbuilder, and get a distributable package.
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1731 [23:50:32] <roycroft> thank you, i'll give that a go
1732 [23:50:35] <sney> !nmg
1733 [23:50:35] <dpkg> The packaging tutorial (replaced-url
1734 [23:50:42] <roycroft> and hopefully not have to bother you further about this
1735 [23:50:58] <sney> ^ the first 2 links in dpkg's message here contain a lot of background information about debian packaging.
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1740 [23:52:32] <sney> roycroft: it would be better if you didn't hit enter so much when you're still in the middle of describing the issue. it makes it hard to tell what you're asking.
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1746 [23:53:51] <roycroft> i shall endeavor to comply with your request
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1756 [23:58:29] <roycroft> well downloading the source for the 0.18 version of freecad gives me a debian/control file that makes sense to me, so that's already a big help
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1758 [23:58:50] <roycroft> i'll read the linked documentation on building packages before giving it another go
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