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2 [00:02:07] <RoyK> [sr]: dpkg -l | grep php
3 [00:02:12] <RoyK> perhaps?
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5 [00:03:11] <[sr]> no,
6 [00:03:19] <RoyK> [sr]: you probably do *not* want to install all php modules available
7 [00:03:25] <[sr]> it was a single command build in
8 [00:03:33] <[sr]> its not all
9 [00:03:40] <RoyK> just install those you need,ok
10 [00:03:42] <RoyK> ?
11 [00:03:43] <[sr]> it just displayed the installed one's
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13 [00:04:11] <RoyK> [sr]: what'll you be using php for on this?
14 [00:04:26] <[sr]> dont worry
15 [00:04:30] <[sr]> everything's set up
16 [00:04:37] <[sr]> i just want to remember the command name
17 [00:04:38] <[sr]> grr
18 [00:04:50] <RoyK> just 'apt install \*php\*' ? ;)
19 [00:05:01] <RoyK> that'd be a rather nice chaos
20 [00:05:04] <hop> [sr]: are you sure this wasn't some composer option or something?
21 [00:05:33] <[sr]> no
22 [00:05:44] <[sr]> nevermind
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24 [00:05:52] <[sr]> going to sleep, thanks anyway :P
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28 [00:08:04] <pinningCat> how can i check i use cuda driver?
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30 [00:10:40] <hyiltiz-M> reinstalling curl and libcurl didnt help
31 [00:11:01] <hyiltiz-M> but I noticed that if I compile curl myself and run that one, it works
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33 [00:11:18] <hyiltiz-M> apparently my firewall was blocking `/usr/bin/curl` ...
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36 [00:16:43] <alex11> lol
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50 [00:35:24] <hop> you did mention proxy and vpn, so i ruled out firewall as well…
51 [00:35:55] <hop> what are you using?
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74 [01:04:49] <jak2000> how ti check if have problems of memoy on my server?
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76 [01:06:46] <rk4> start with dmesg
77 [01:06:57] <rk4> do you have registered or ecc memory?
78 [01:07:31] <rk4> judging by your question it seems you have extensive corruption
79 [01:07:34] * rk4 nods
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99 [01:52:06] <shibboleth> say i know about a bug in foo1.3, can i tell apt-get to install foo1.2 instead during and apt-get upgrade?
100 [01:52:17] <shibboleth> an apt-get upgrade even
101 [01:53:18] <alex11> you can but usually multiple versions of a program aren't in the repository
102 [01:53:20] <epsilon> one possibility is to install 1.2 manually and mark it as hold, see apt-mark
103 [01:53:51] <shibboleth> oh, it's a third.party repo, both packs are there
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105 [01:54:34] <shibboleth> so what's the regular incantation?
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108 [01:57:27] <epsilon> there is no regular way... other way to do it apt and policy, just google how to install specific version via apt and keep it unupgraded
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116 [02:08:16] <jak2000> rk4 are you there?
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119 [02:13:40] <jak2000> replaced-url
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123 [02:18:48] <epsilon> jak2000, any red lines?
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127 [02:24:58] <jak2000> epsilon: 0.992062] megaraid_sas 0000:03:00.0: Init cmd return status SUCCESS for SCSI host 0
128 [02:25:24] <jak2000> some red lines
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130 [02:27:05] <jak2000> replaced-url
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133 [02:28:26] <jak2000> and
134 [02:28:26] <jak2000> replaced-url
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142 [02:36:16] <codebam> hey so I'm trying to enable this launchpad ppa but when I add it the key isn't verifying. would someone be able to help me? replaced-url
143 [02:36:37] <epsilon> jak2000: ok... and you have applications or system itfself randomly crashing?
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145 [02:38:46] <jmcnaught> codebam: it looks like you followed the instructions for Ubuntu instead of the ones for Debian.
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147 [02:39:08] <codebam> jmcnaught: oh um. where do I see the one's for debian?
148 [02:39:25] <codebam> oh I see
149 [02:39:39] <jmcnaught> codebam: you should remove the ubuntu hirsute repo that you added first.
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151 [02:40:03] <jmcnaught> codebam: the instructions were further down the same page that you linked in your paste.
152 [02:41:23] <codebam> oh okay I'm checking. thank you
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154 [02:42:22] <codebam> jmcnaught: do you mean replaced-url
155 [02:42:36] <codebam> oh never mind I found it
156 [02:42:38] <codebam> thank you
157 [02:42:48] <jak2000> epsilon its a proxmox sever, sometimes (every week) crash the VMs
158 [02:43:09] <jmcnaught> codebam: replaced-url
159 [02:43:22] <codebam> is 10 buster?
160 [02:43:25] <jmcnaught> yes
161 [02:43:30] <codebam> okay cool
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167 [02:46:34] <codebam> in step 4 they say to check the fingerprint, but how do I know if it's the correct fingerprint?
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170 [02:48:50] <hop> isn't that quite the conundrum
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206 [03:37:26] <YWH_1> In the package repository what does a dummy package mean and do?
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208 [03:39:14] <themill> It's only there to help with upgrades and normally has the word "transitional" in there
209 [03:40:39] <YWH_1> TU
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268 [05:18:49] <Notturno> Buongiorno
269 [05:19:36] <Notturno> C'è nessuno?
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273 [05:21:09] <jadax> hi, I ssh -X from local PC to remote PC and open up firefox / youtube; I get video screen locally but no audio, I want audio on remote PC. How do I go about it?
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275 [05:23:39] <themill> you should be able to forward pulseaudio over your ssh connection too; it will be a bit faffy to set up
276 [05:24:02] <jadax> but do I need to forward anything? firefox & youtube already runs on remote PC
277 [05:24:09] <jadax> I just want sound to be outputted there, on the remote PC
278 [05:24:22] <jadax> all I want on local is control + video
279 [05:24:32] <jadax> control as in what I choose to play
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290 [05:42:26] <allan_wind> For a router with two interfaces, should /etc/network/interfaces have a gateway for both interfaces or only the wan side (default gw)?
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295 [05:56:50] <epsilon> allan_wind: only on WAN interface
296 [05:58:09] <epsilon> oh wait, misread the question, you need default gateway on all LAN interfaces
297 [05:59:15] <allan_wind> epictetus2: hmm.... how do I tell what the default gw is (i.e. route add default gw ...)?
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299 [05:59:51] <allan_wind> epsilon: sorry, wrong auto-complete...obviously meant for you
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302 [06:02:24] <epsilon> oh wait I talk bulls***, sorry i should go sleep soon. You have default gateway on WAN interface. You provide to the clients LAN IP incl the router as gateway, but on LAN interface of router you have no default route set
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306 [06:04:10] <allan_wind> epsilon: cool, sleep well
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351 [07:48:23] <alexrelis[m]> I accidentally formatted my /boot partition which was stored on a USB flash drive. So as a result I booted into a live CD, created a new /boot partition on my flash drive, reinstalled grub, updated initramfs, and generated a grub.cfg. But upon reboot I'm stuck in a initramfs busybox prompt.
352 [07:49:09] <alexrelis[m]> I get this error message:
353 [07:49:09] <alexrelis[m]> Give up waiting for root file system device. Common problems:
354 [07:49:09] <alexrelis[m]> -Boot arcs (cat /proc/cmdline)
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356 [07:49:48] <alexrelis[m]> arcs*
357 [07:49:59] <alexrelis[m]> args*
358 [07:51:25] <diogenes_> alexrelis[m], checked fstab UUIDs?
359 [07:51:39] <alexrelis[m]> Alert! UUID=...... does not exist.
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361 [07:56:58] <CrystalMath> alexrelis[m]: here neither!
362 [07:57:07] <CrystalMath> i use the good old fashioned /dev/sdX
363 [08:02:12] <alexrelis[m]> [diogenes_](replaced-url
364 [08:02:45] <alexrelis[m]> I changed my fstab uuid for /boot accordingly. Is there any other location that I have to change the UUID?
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366 [08:06:17] <alexrelis[m]> I would also like to mention that when I run update-initramfs -u, I get an error that says: The initramfs image may not contain cryptsetup binaries nor crypto modules.
367 [08:07:12] <alexrelis[m]> I happen to use encryption, so could this be a potential issue?
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373 [08:15:05] <diogenes_> alexrelis[m], maybe your root= linux line in grub points at the wrong UUID.
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385 [08:33:43] <shtrb> What proper akonadi/mariahdb export pipeline should I be doing , to backup and extract my akonadi to something else (if possible without needing to redownload all my info from the servers) ?
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397 [09:02:50] <wr> how can i reinstall alsa on debian?
398 [09:03:07] <nkuttler> wr: why do you want to do that?
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400 [09:04:28] <wr> nkuttler, xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin sound icon issues, i think may have messed something when i try to fix
401 [09:05:25] <nkuttler> wr: did you modify config files?
402 [09:05:45] <wr> nkuttler, get icon always pumping up and mutes sound or volume changes, generally when i killall -9 pulseaudio, sound comes back
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404 [09:07:06] <nkuttler> wr: well, apt reinstall <package>
405 [09:07:18] <wr> nkuttler, no, but i removed pulseaudio and pulse folder, so....
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407 [09:07:55] <wr> nkuttler, i did some reinstall but still have same issue
408 [09:10:55] <wr> nkuttler, i get this sound icon replaced-url
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410 [09:13:36] <nkuttler> wr: if you deleted config files, apt purge <package>, and then apt install <package>
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412 [09:15:09] <nkuttler> !confmiss
413 [09:15:09] <dpkg> You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>.
414 [09:15:15] <nkuttler> wr: see also ^^
415 [09:15:37] <nkuttler> this way you don't have to purge first
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418 [09:18:28] <wr> nkuttler, on alsa, what packages should be in the debian?
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425 [09:29:13] <nkuttler> wr: apt list --installed | grep alsa
426 [09:30:10] <wr> nkuttler, i have alsa-oss alsa-utils and gstreamer1.0-alsa
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532 [10:25:57] <jelly> wr: which folders did you erase, something in /etc or something in your home dir?
533 [10:26:15] <jelly> if it's just the latter then there's no need to reinstall things
534 [10:26:49] <wr> jelly, etc none
535 [10:27:27] <jelly> non in etc? THen you just need to (re)configure pulse again
536 [10:27:58] <wr> jelly, after i remove pulseaudio just /home/user/.config/pulse/
537 [10:29:18] <jelly> wr: okay, that's less painful then. Run "pactl exit", open pavucontrol, start an app that plays some sounds and use pavucontrol to configure your output devices and your apps
538 [10:29:51] <jelly> pactl exit just to make sure no old config is left over
539 [10:30:29] <wr> jelly, my main problem was that i was getting the audio muted/off and volume bar changed on the sound warning msg replaced-url
540 [10:31:12] <jelly> on its own?
541 [10:31:28] <jelly> without you pressing any audio related keys?
542 [10:31:39] <wr> yes
543 [10:31:53] <jelly> do you have a wireless keyboard someplace and someone else toying with it? :-)
544 [10:32:05] <wr> this thing was acting weird
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546 [10:32:41] <wr> jelly, no one touches my keyboard, guaranteed
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549 [10:33:50] <wr> jelly, but now your talking that, i have a mute button on the keyboard, what if, the keyboard was acting weird.... hmmm
550 [10:34:43] <shtrb> Does anyone remember if the pine64 was running a debian dist (what was presented in debconf20), and if so what was the name ?
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552 [10:35:45] <jelly> wr: very easy to plug in a tiny usb keyboard wireless controller into a coworker / roommate / sibling system and mess with them... just sayin'
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554 [10:37:35] <wr> jelly, i don't believe it has anything to do with the keyboard, but.. i have unplugged now it now and checked it and batteries
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560 [10:40:13] <shtrb> wr, broken keyboard (which sends mute function) could do the same thing
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562 [10:40:44] <jelly> wr: is this a laptop btw? Maybe it's acpi is weird and the builtin keyboard is sending events
563 [10:40:49] <jelly> its*
564 [10:40:53] <wr> shtrb, yes
565 [10:41:06] <wr> jelly, no, desktop pc
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567 [10:41:45] <jelly> okay, that's out then
568 [10:43:02] <wr> jelly, maybe you said that as a joke, but i could be the keyboard, i also reinstalled gstreamer and some packages, so far warning sound pop-up icon is not showing up
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570 [10:43:09] <wr> *it
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573 [10:44:55] <wr> jelly, maybe something with keyboard and xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin on panel was getting ON
574 [10:45:18] <jelly> wr: I've seen a keyboard with old batteries be laggy and then send lots of presses all at a time, but I guess it's possible it might also send something interpreted as wrong keys
575 [10:46:21] <wr> jelly, what alsa packages should i have in a new installed Debian?
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577 [10:47:39] <simplicius> Hello
578 [10:47:59] <simplicius> I need an OCR program that grabs text from the screen much like a screenshot tool
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580 [10:49:12] <wr> simplicius, what debian version you use?
581 [10:49:27] <wr> simplicius, replaced-url
582 [10:49:57] <simplicius> 4.19.0-6-amd64
583 [10:50:28] <jelly> simplicius: dunno if there's a single tool for that, and OCR-only tools like tesseract work better with black text on white background than the inverse
584 [10:51:15] <jelly> that said I've had good results manually piping screenshots from customers or coworkers to it
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586 [10:52:22] <wr> simplicius, seen replaced-url
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588 [10:54:11] <simplicius> I need something that work directly on the screen rather than files
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591 [10:55:26] <Bushmaster> Hello folks, seeking some input here, if anyone care to reply
592 [10:56:17] <jelly> !ask
593 [10:56:17] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on replaced-url
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601 [11:00:07] <shtrb> simplicius, you might wish to work with the framebuffer
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604 [11:00:30] <shtrb> or better , to take screenshot , but then process it with OCR
605 [11:01:15] <jelly> that's combining 2-3 tools
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621 [11:25:30] <shtrb> Found it , it's called mobian.
622 [11:25:32] <shtrb> !mobian
623 [11:26:12] <shtrb> dpkg mobian is replaced-url
624 [11:26:12] <dpkg> okay, shtrb
625 [11:26:17] <shtrb> !mobian
626 [11:26:18] <dpkg> [mobian] replaced-url
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670 [12:40:48] <Bushmaster> hey jelly
671 [12:41:18] <Bushmaster> yes, well, I recently installed visual studio code in my Debian 9 and it seems to be either sluggish or freeze
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673 [12:41:51] <Bushmaster> I wonder whether it is my desktop hardware issue or Debian issue. anyway to find out what seem to be the root cause jelly
674 [12:42:08] <jelly> you got enough RAM for your workload?
675 [12:42:31] <Bushmaster> jelly, well, this desktop is 8GiB RAM jelly
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677 [12:43:07] <jelly> that doesn't say a lot, you might be running too much stuff for 8GB, or not
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679 [12:43:46] <Bushmaster> well, in my ntebook machine, ram is 4GiB and I have Debian 10 in it and visual studio code works perfect
680 [12:44:01] <jelly> verify output of "free" and "vmstat 1" to see if there's enough RAM and active swapping while you're using vscode
681 [12:44:10] <Bushmaster> i am just wondering whether it is outdated hardware issue
682 [12:44:23] <Bushmaster> jelly, okay, let me check
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690 [12:51:28] <Bushmaster> jelly, replaced-url
691 [12:52:09] <Bushmaster> vscode is on and its almost freeze or sluggish, you cant work in that state jelly
692 [12:53:14] <jelly> I wrote "vmstat 1" not "vmstat" but it's obvious the system is not swapping
693 [12:53:29] <Bushmaster> jelly sorry, let me do it now
694 [12:54:04] <Bushmaster> vm stat 1 rolling, how i kill it?
695 [12:54:09] <jelly> you don't
696 [12:54:22] <jelly> ^C when you've seen enough
697 [12:54:53] <jelly> but in general you leave it running and then let whatever suspicious workload you have, run at the same time
698 [12:55:16] <Bushmaster> well, let me pastebin you
699 [12:55:43] <Bushmaster> and jelly i think you are very right, sawp is not working, every time i boot machine, it does mention something like swap does not work or something like that
700 [12:55:46] <jelly> no need, the first paste showed there's almost no swap in use at all
701 [12:55:49] <Bushmaster> how can it be fixed
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703 [12:56:31] <Bushmaster> that vmstat 1 the column swap is all 0
704 [12:57:09] <jelly> I don't remember what widget set vscode uses. if it's Qt or GTK3, try changing the theme and see if there's any difference
705 [12:57:35] <jelly> restart the app after changing the relevant theme
706 [12:57:40] <dob1> I don't understand the difference between mpack and mail with -A
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709 [13:00:34] <Bushmaster> jelly, i need to get rid of it, how can I uninstall in command line
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716 [13:04:51] <wr> jelly, seems issue persists
717 [13:04:57] <jelly> Bushmaster: uninstall what?
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721 [13:05:39] <jelly> wr: and with a different keyboard as well, perhaps?
722 [13:06:03] <wr> jelly, with KB off see warning sound
723 [13:06:05] <Bushmaster> jelly, that vscode, i think i need to get rid of it, its not working and taking up space and making things slow
724 [13:06:16] <jelly> wr: you could maybe randomly try a newer or different kernel, and see if it gets fixed with newer/different drivers
725 [13:06:37] <jelly> Bushmaster: probably the same way you installed it.
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728 [13:07:12] <jelly> Bushmaster: if it's a deb package purge it or remove it with apt.
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732 [13:09:14] <Bushmaster> it was deb package and i installed it by clicking right button and then install in GUI but not sure how to uninstall it
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735 [13:13:12] <jelly> Bushmaster: man apt-get, man apt
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737 [13:14:43] <jelly> find the installed package name, then as root do: apt purge packagename
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740 [13:17:07] <Bushmaster> so there is no easy way to uninstall VS Code
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743 [13:18:24] <wr> jelly, i'm thinking this could too be hardware side, some days ago pc was rebooting straight, this hardware is bit old too, wonder if something on electronic circuit is messing this, but the last thing i remember that updated was kernel too
744 [13:20:04] <wr> jelly, i reinstalled the pulseaudio, messed bit on alsa packages, xfce-panel, and i did checked keyboard, i use this logitech keyboard for at least for 12 years almost, i never had issues with it before
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747 [13:22:36] <EdePopede> Bushmaster: what's not easy in 1. "what is the package name?" 2. "purge package!" ?
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749 [13:23:25] <Bushmaster> EdePopede, hello, my friend, well, I simply want to uninstall Visual Studio Code and I have no idea how to uninstall package
750 [13:24:01] <EdePopede> aptitude / apt-get / apt. and some GUI frontends i just can't remember.
751 [13:24:35] <Bushmaster> no idea what you mean EdePopede
752 [13:24:51] <EdePopede> did you ever use one of these tools?
753 [13:25:01] <EdePopede> how do you install usually?
754 [13:26:02] <Bushmaster> yes i utilize apt-get when I install package in command line but this visual studio, i did not install in command line, i went to the VS Code site and then downloaded the .deb package and then right clicked it and the DBinstaller and it did the installation in GUI
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756 [13:27:37] <EdePopede> find out about a relevant file (like the executable you use to start it) and then: dpkg -S $file
757 [13:28:18] <diogenes_> Bushmaster, open synaptic package manager and search for visual or studio or vscode.
758 [13:28:20] <EdePopede> this gives you the package name you can use to purge it (maybe -s(imulate) it first just to stay safe)
759 [13:28:34] <wr> jelly, seen a video here, xfce4-notifyd-config seems to be what manages warnings settings
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761 [13:28:54] <Bushmaster> diogenes_, let me try
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765 [13:30:24] <Bushmaster> diogenes_, great, i found it, it is green square marked, I think I can uninstall it from there right
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768 [13:31:33] <diogenes_> green means installed, right click and it gives you options.
769 [13:32:06] <Bushmaster> diogenes_, okay
770 [13:32:45] <Bushmaster> yes, diogenes_ mark for removal and then mark for complete removal, that is the one i should carry out, it is not working in my Debian 9
771 [13:33:04] <Bushmaster> thanks a lot diogenes_ you really made it simple and useful for me
772 [13:33:39] <diogenes_> Bushmaster, you're welcome.
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774 [13:36:00] <Bushmaster> diogenes_, great, done, its totally removed, there is one other thing, may be you can shed some light, the swap is not working, alongside Debian I have LMDE installed, now, I plan on getting rid of that and install Debian 10 Buster, that should solve the swap issue right?
775 [13:37:00] <diogenes_> Bushmaster, define 'not working'.
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778 [13:38:07] <Bushmaster> diogenes_, no idea, i think i saw a message when I boot the machine, it says swap is not working or something like that, and jelly ran some commands and confirm something wrong with my swap
779 [13:38:16] <Bushmaster> i am no good at these diogenes_
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782 [13:39:16] <diogenes_> Bushmaster, in terminal run: sudo apt install gnome-system-monitor
783 [13:39:45] <Bushmaster> diogenes_, hold on my good friend
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785 [13:41:52] <Bushmaster> diogenes_, i think it is already installed judging by what it saying after running the command
786 [13:42:40] <diogenes_> in that same terminal type: gnome-system-monitor (hit enter)
787 [13:43:06] <wr> jelly, another thing is that when it displays warning i see volume value change up and down
788 [13:43:29] <diogenes_> go to resorces tab and see if swap shows green.
789 [13:44:01] <Bushmaster> diogenes_, hold on
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792 [13:49:38] <Bushmaster> diogenes_, i took a screen shot, can you please tell me if everything okay replaced-url
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794 [13:51:45] <diogenes_> Bushmaster, you're swap is 1.5 Gb in size and works ok, already 4Kb swapped.
795 [13:51:55] <diogenes_> your*
796 [13:52:17] <Bushmaster> thanks diogenes_ you must be a good teacher, know how to simply and help
797 [13:52:27] <Bushmaster> simplify
798 [13:53:19] <diogenes_> if it has a green dot in the middle then it works, if grey then doesn't.
799 [13:54:15] <Bushmaster> diogenes_, there is a small green dot in the middle and only 4kb is utilized
800 [13:56:18] <diogenes_> Bushmaster, that's why i said it works and btw, the more swap is used the more freezes you gonna experience.
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803 [13:57:40] <Bushmaster> diogenes_, that Visual Studio Code does not work in this machine so no idea why it did not work,
804 [13:58:06] <diogenes_> you're using Cinnamon which is heavy on resources, i'd recommend Xfce for a smoother experience.
805 [14:05:22] <Bushmaster> diogenes_, well I installed Debian Buster in one of my laptop, it has 4 GiB Ram and Cinnamon Desktop and Visual Studio Code works fine
806 [14:05:43] <Bushmaster> no idea why this desktop machine, it does not work, i think its outdated hardware that's why
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811 [14:14:34] <diogenes_> Bushmaster, if you want to troubleshoot a particular application which 'doesn't work', you should open a terminal and start that application in terminal, then read the output or error messaage in terminal, usually something like: Failed to open shared library xyz, no such file or directory, this gives you an idea that xyz is missing, that's why the app won't start.
812 [14:15:43] <Bushmaster> diogenes_, let me try installing Visual Studio Code again but this time with your support
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855 [15:07:55] <NetTerminalGene> does debian buster support xfs file system?
856 [15:08:11] <Brigo> NetTerminalGene, i think so
857 [15:08:29] <NetTerminalGene> man, i found benchmark, it is more performant than ext4
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859 [15:10:15] <dvs> but how robust is it?
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862 [15:13:27] <NetTerminalGene> yeah. i don't know. ext4 has never failed for me. no data loss after power cut etc
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922 [16:35:18] <contrapunctus> o/
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924 [16:36:06] <dvs> yo
925 [16:36:54] <contrapunctus> Qtractor on Debian Stable is crashing for me, and reportbug wants me to try a newer version first.
926 [16:37:35] <shtrb> It's a suggestion only
927 [16:37:54] <contrapunctus> I tried to follow the steps at replaced-url
928 [16:39:00] <dvs> ,v qtractor
929 [16:39:01] <judd> Package: qtractor on amd64 -- jessie: 0.6.3-1; stretch: 0.8.0-1; buster: 0.9.5-1; bullseye: 0.9.17-1; sid: 0.9.18-1
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932 [16:39:42] <dvs> ,v debhelpter-compat
933 [16:39:43] <judd> No package named 'debhelpter-compat' was found in amd64.
934 [16:39:50] <dvs> ,v debhelper-compat
935 [16:39:51] <judd> No package named 'debhelper-compat' was found in amd64.
936 [16:40:03] <contrapunctus> 🤔
937 [16:40:29] <abrotman> lintian ?
938 [16:40:32] <jelly> ,provides debhelper --release buster-backports
939 [16:40:33] <judd> Package debhelper in buster-backports/amd64 provides: debhelper-compat (= 9), debhelper-compat (= 10), debhelper-compat (= 11), debhelper-compat (= 12), debhelper-compat (= 13), dh-sequence-dwz, dh-sequence-elf-tools, dh-sequence-installinitramfs, dh-sequence-systemd.
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941 [16:41:05] <jelly> contrapunctus: you'll need to install debhelper from buster-backports to satisfy that particular build dependency
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943 [16:41:34] <jelly> !buster-backports
944 [16:41:34] <dpkg> Some packages intended for Bullseye (Debian 11) but recompiled for use with Buster (Debian 10) can be found in the buster-backports repository. See replaced-url
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951 [16:51:24] <contrapunctus> jelly: I see. Now that I check, I have it, and I'm able to proceed till `debuild`, where I get - replaced-url
952 [16:51:45] <contrapunctus> (I do have debhelper-compat, so what gives? 🤔)
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954 [16:52:54] <dvs> contrapunctus: line 9?
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957 [16:55:40] <contrapunctus> Oh, what the hell... `apt install debhelper-compat` => "Note, selecting 'debhelper' instead of 'debhelper-compat'" 🤷
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959 [16:55:51] <contrapunctus> Why? 🤔
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965 [17:01:49] <jelly> <jelly> contrapunctus: you'll need to install debhelper from buster-backports to satisfy that particular build dependency
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967 [17:01:54] <jelly> did you do that?
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969 [17:05:59] <jelly> contrapunctus: replaced-url
970 [17:06:34] <contrapunctus> jelly: I do have backports, yes
971 [17:08:05] <jelly> don't forget all the steps. adding the repo, running an apt update, using -t buster-backports when installing
972 [17:08:35] <jelly> contrapunctus: just having the repo enabled won't make apt use it automatically
973 [17:08:52] <abrotman> seems like a lot of work to file a bug ...
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975 [17:10:15] <jelly> isn't that the usual amount of work to file bug in debian. "a lot"
976 [17:10:44] <abrotman> Think it depends on the bug
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985 [17:22:45] <contrapunctus> jelly: oh, thanks, wasn't aware of that. However, even with `apt install -t buster-backports debhelper-compat` I get the same message - "Note, selecting 'debhelper' instead of 'debhelper-compat'"
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988 [17:23:32] <dob1> ,v ssmtp
989 [17:23:33] <judd> Package: ssmtp on amd64 -- jessie: 2.64-8; stretch: 2.64-8+b2; bullseye: 2.64-9; sid: 2.64-9
990 [17:23:44] <dob1> nice...
991 [17:23:52] <dob1> and buster?
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995 [17:25:57] <dob1> msmtp ?
996 [17:26:08] <jelly> contrapunctus: there is no package actually called "debhelper-compat"
997 [17:26:30] <abrotman> dob1: what are you asking?
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1001 [17:27:43] <dob1> abrotman, I am looking to send mail throught an external smtp, searching online I found ssmtp as an option and this msmtp (not looking to configure exim for this). The first one is not now in debian
1002 [17:27:46] <jelly> !provides
1003 [17:28:00] <abrotman> dob1: look at nullmailer also
1004 [17:28:10] <apollo13> or postfix
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1007 [17:28:36] <jelly> postfix is a bit overkill for a null mailer installation
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1009 [17:29:05] <dob1> no, postfix / exim is too much
1010 [17:29:13] <dob1> I take a look at nullmailer thanks
1011 [17:29:16] <abrotman> dpkg: nullmailer
1012 [17:29:16] <dpkg> methinks nullmailer is a minimal <MTA> for hosts which just sends directly to smart relays. Does not support /etc/aliases; define a catch-all alias in /etc/nullmailer/adminaddr instead, see adminaddr(5). replaced-url
1013 [17:29:17] <jelly> dob1: you could rebuild ssmtp. Or try msmtp-mta. Or dma.
1014 [17:29:41] <dob1> jelly, but why why it's in in all version but not in buster?
1015 [17:29:58] <dob1> a lot of options to try :)
1016 [17:29:59] <abrotman> it must have had an RC bug before release
1017 [17:30:02] <jelly> it was too buggy at the time buster software set was frozen, and noone fixed it
1018 [17:30:13] <contrapunctus> jelly: thanks. After some complaining about debian/compat (I renamed it to silence it) it finally seems to be building.
1019 [17:30:50] <dob1> ah ok
1020 [17:30:58] <contrapunctus> Making bug reports was a lot easier when I was running Testing/Unstable 😅
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1023 [17:33:12] <jelly> contrapunctus: you could also just file a bug for the version in stable and ignore that part about trying the latest
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1025 [17:34:16] <contrapunctus> jelly: oh, is that really okay? I'm relieved to hear it! 🙂
1026 [17:37:24] <jelly> not everyone is going to backport software and not every piece is easily backportable in the first place
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1046 [17:54:29] <dob1> if I decide to use nullmailer, can I use a .forward file writing on it the external email address of the user? so writing a mail to the username will send the message to its external mail address?
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1054 [17:59:21] <jelly> dob1: nullmailer does not read ~/.forward, almost no tiny smtp /usr/sbin/sendmail replacements do
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1056 [18:00:39] <jelly> that file is more a config file for local delivery, and null mailers don't do local delivery
1057 [18:01:06] <jelly> dma is kind of an exception there
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1059 [18:01:23] <dob1> jelly, and how do you manage system mails with it (nullmailer) ?
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1062 [18:03:29] <jelly> typically you configure it to send everything to a single mail address using a single smtp server
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1065 [18:06:29] <dob1> jelly, not my usercase
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1070 [18:08:02] <jelly> tbh I put postfix almost everywhere, containers being the single exception
1071 [18:09:10] <dob1> jelly, and it manages local and external mails via an external smtp?
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1074 [18:10:24] <jelly> it has local delivery for local messages, and can be configured with a smarthost (external smtp server)
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1078 [18:11:02] <jelly> there's half a dozen processes running all the time, eating about 30-40MB
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1082 [18:11:48] <dob1> jelly, I can use the .forward too?
1083 [18:11:56] <jelly> yes.
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1086 [18:12:19] <dob1> I will try it, never used it
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1113 [18:39:05] <dob1> I was able to setup it but I have to use the -a "From: myemail@foobar" to have to accepted
1114 [18:39:13] <dob1> in mail command
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1116 [18:39:26] <f8e4> hi, i do .basrc: export MANPATH="$PATH:/hom... and now my old man is broken; eg man find
1117 [18:40:14] <jelly> f8e4: PATH is not a good path for man.
1118 [18:40:28] <f8e4> export MANPATH="$PATH:/home/user/latex_base_dir/texmf-dist/doc/man"
1119 [18:40:36] <f8e4> latex i try to add just ..
1120 [18:41:30] <jelly> PATH does not contain directories with man pages!
1121 [18:41:32] <f8e4> jelly, are y threning me
1122 [18:41:47] * f8e4 just noticed
1123 [18:41:59] <f8e4> :P
1124 [18:42:12] <jelly> I don't know what threning is, sorry
1125 [18:42:16] <f8e4> but a good path for mankind
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1128 [18:43:59] <jelly> I guess you can extrapolate other dirs for the default MANPATH from contents of /etc/manpath.config
1129 [18:44:06] <jelly> but there are many
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1134 [18:49:39] <dob1> and another problem, not postfix related but still on mail, mail -A file will attach the file to the mail BUT the filename will be the full path of the file
1135 [18:50:18] <dob1> so if I send mail -A /home/user/foobar.pdf the file on the email will be /home/user/foobar.pdf and when you download it _home_user_foobar.pdf
1136 [18:50:28] <jelly> that really depends on the particular implementation of /usr/bin/mail you're using
1137 [18:50:35] <jelly> I like to send attachments with mutt
1138 [18:50:56] <dob1> jelly, I was looking for it too but how to you set the from header too?
1139 [18:51:19] <jelly> either in muttrc or in the command line
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1143 [18:52:45] <dob1> echo "test" | mutt -a file -s "subject" -- address@foobar.com I am not sure you can
1144 [18:53:04] <jelly> the silly way would be mutt -e 'set from="date.of.birth.one@example.com"' ...
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1147 [18:55:04] <jelly> or even set from="Name Lastname <date.of.birth.one@example.com>"
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1149 [18:56:07] <jelly> btw, mutt can send via smtp on its own.
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1151 [18:56:44] * jelly uses it to read and send via office365 work email
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1154 [19:01:00] <dob1> jelly, not able to do this with mutt
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1157 [19:03:15] <jelly> dob1: do what?
1158 [19:03:26] <dob1> jelly, to set from
1159 [19:03:59] <dob1> mail it's ok it's just that it gives this strange name to the attachment ....
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1161 [19:05:37] <jayden> Anyone here that use awesomewm that can help me
1162 [19:06:41] <jelly> dob1: what's your actual command line, and which debian release (really, which mutt package version)
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1164 [19:08:32] <dob1> echo "attach" | mutt -e 'set from="relay_host_account@gmx.com"' -s "test subject" -a /home/user/tmp/splash.gif -- myaddress@gmail.com
1165 [19:09:08] <dob1> jelly, and buster
1166 [19:09:25] <dob1> mutt 1.10.1-2.1+deb10u3
1167 [19:11:33] <EdePopede> tell jayden about anyone
1168 [19:11:49] <EdePopede> (first time using this, no idea if it works *g*)
1169 [19:11:56] <dob1> but the error is host mail.gmx.com[212.227.17.174] said: 550-Requested
1170 [19:11:56] <dob1> action not taken: mailbox unavailable 550 invalid DNS MX or A/AAAA resource
1171 [19:11:56] <dob1> record (in reply to MAIL FROM command)
1172 [19:12:49] <jelly> dob1: and if you use a relative path?
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1174 [19:13:28] <jelly> dob1: you shouldn't fake sender addresses
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1177 [19:14:03] <jelly> dob1: use a SMTP server with authentication, and use your real sender address and user and password for auth
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1179 [19:14:19] <dob1> jelly, I am using real address not fake ones, it's only here that I wrote a fake one
1180 [19:14:40] <jelly> dob1: then you forgot to authenticate.
1181 [19:15:00] <dob1> jelly, I am using postfix as you suggested
1182 [19:15:06] <dob1> it's in postfix the authentication
1183 [19:15:22] <jelly> dob1: is it working?
1184 [19:15:31] <dob1> jelly, with mail yes, with mutt no
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1186 [19:16:32] <jelly> dob1: that makes little sense. smtp auth, if configured, should be done by postfix when it sends mail onward regardless of which mail client you used locally
1187 [19:17:06] <jelly> dob1: it's more likely it's not configured properly
1188 [19:17:35] <dob1> jelly, my idea (maybe wrong) is: postfix will receive the mail, from mail or mutt and based on the recipient address will deliver it locally or to the smarthost (in this case gmx). GMX is not accepting it with mutt, and you can see the log, because from is not ok when I use mutt
1189 [19:17:37] <jelly> I don't know how to configure it to do smtp auth.
1190 [19:19:02] <jelly> dob1: postfix ought to do SMTP AUTH in any case. Show all the postfix lines for a single send attempt, in a pastebin
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1192 [19:19:11] <dob1> jelly, I setup it
1193 [19:20:02] <jelly> dob1: you using port 465 or port 587 for sending with your smtp auth server?
1194 [19:20:15] <dob1> I can show you main.cf
1195 [19:20:20] <dob1> the relevant parts
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1197 [19:21:29] <jelly> no. Logs please.
1198 [19:21:30] <dob1> jelly, replaced-url
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1200 [19:23:45] <dob1> jelly, that's an attemp replaced-url
1201 [19:24:34] <jelly> dob1: you envelope from (envelope sender) is not right
1202 [19:24:56] <dob1> which line?
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1204 [19:25:05] <abrotman> GMX seems to want your from domain to be real?
1205 [19:25:10] <dob1> yes
1206 [19:25:20] <dob1> this is the issue
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1208 [19:26:00] <jelly> nov 08 19:21:47 virtdebian postfix/qmgr[15858]: 7A514EAA8E: from=<federico@virtdebian.realm.lan>, size=16755, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
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1210 [19:26:38] <dob1> it doesn't take the from
1211 [19:27:01] <jelly> that's the envelope, different thing from From header
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1213 [19:27:41] <jelly> if using mutt, you can tell it: "set envelope_from" in muttrc or with another -e
1214 [19:28:22] <jelly> ^ if you use that, mutt will use the same address for the envelope sender as for the From: header
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1216 [19:29:19] <wrksx> I dunno much about rsyslog, is it still used and how does it interact with systemd journal thing?
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1218 [19:29:34] <dob1> if I use mail I have the same log message and here I have , for example, nov 08 19:27:20 virtdebian postfix/qmgr[15858]: A79D0EAA8E: from=<my_user@gmx.com>, size=128395, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
1219 [19:29:43] <dob1> that is accepeted
1220 [19:29:45] <jelly> dob1: that looks better.
1221 [19:29:52] <dob1> with mail, not mutt
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1223 [19:30:03] <dob1> with mutt I am not able to do the same
1224 [19:31:05] <jelly> dob1: what does your mutt command line look like right now?
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1226 [19:31:18] <dob1> the same I posted before
1227 [19:31:28] <dob1> I tried with envelope_from too but it doesn't accept it
1228 [19:31:55] <jelly> what happens with envelope_from and what was the exact command line you tried?
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1230 [19:33:18] <dob1> echo "foobar" | mutt -e 'set envelope_from="my_user@gmx.com"' .... the rest Error in command line: Usage: set variable=yes|no
1231 [19:33:29] <jelly> that's not what I wrote
1232 [19:33:54] <dob1> <jelly> if using mutt, you can tell it: "set envelope_from" in muttrc or with another -e
1233 [19:34:10] <jelly> dob1: the first -e stays the same, and then have a SECOND -e with just 'set envelope_from'
1234 [19:34:16] <dob1> ok I trye
1235 [19:34:18] <dob1> sorry
1236 [19:34:39] <jelly> but really, put all the fixed stuff in ~/.muttrc
1237 [19:35:49] <dob1> | mutt -e 'set from="my_user@gmx.com"' -e 'set envelope_from="my_user@gmx.com"' same error :(
1238 [19:36:22] <jelly> no dude, it's LITERALLY JUST -e 'set envelope_from'
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1241 [19:37:15] <jelly> ... | mutt -e 'set from="my_user@gmx.com"' -e 'set envelope_from' -s 'some subject' -a attach1 attach2 ... -- recipient1 recipient2 ...
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1244 [19:38:51] <wrksx> rsyslog conflicts with linux-kernel-log-daemon, system-log-daemon
1245 [19:39:13] <wrksx> but apt search showed no linux-kernel-log-daemon package
1246 [19:39:23] <topoi> Hey folks. I'm not sure if it's debian related, but "info info" gives me "info: No menu item 'info-stnd' in node '(dir)Top'", which worked on stretch when I remember correctly and also still works on some other unix flavours.
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1248 [19:40:11] <topoi> I also found some entry on launchpad: replaced-url
1249 [19:41:32] <jelly> wrksx: it also provides those.
1250 [19:42:20] <topoi> It says there the entry is now in "texinfo-doc-nonfree"; but why so? Does anyne know?
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1252 [19:42:47] <wrksx> jelly: oh right, but they do not exist independently then
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1254 [19:43:09] <wrksx> so why would it conflict with those? I'm confused about the goal
1255 [19:43:30] <dob1> jelly, I did it: in muttrc I put set use_envelope_from=yes and set from="user@gmx.com" and it worked
1256 [19:43:51] <jelly> wrksx: Provides + Conflicts is used when there's more than one package providing some functionality, but only one of those is supposed to be installed at a time
1257 [19:44:27] <sney> topoi: a lot of GNU docs are in debian non-free because the license says they can't be modified, and that conflicts with the DFSG. have you tried installing that package to see if it resolves your issue?
1258 [19:44:29] <topoi> Ahh, I see. It's somehow related to replaced-url
1259 [19:44:32] <wrksx> jelly, ok then I need to check out what other packages provide those then, ty
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1261 [19:45:16] <jelly> dob1: eh, if it works... fwiw, I don't have set use_envelope_from=yes, only set envelope_from.
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1263 [19:45:26] <wrksx> jelly: how are those functionality packages refered to? virtual packages?
1264 [19:45:31] <jelly> wrksx: yes
1265 [19:45:42] <topoi> sney: my sources.list excludes non-free and I was quite satisfied with it. :/
1266 [19:45:43] <wrksx> jelly: ty
1267 [19:46:02] <jelly> judd: whatprovides system-log-daemon
1268 [19:46:23] <judd> Package system-log-daemon in buster/amd64 is provided by: busybox-syslogd, inetutils-syslogd, rsyslog, syslog-ng-core.
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1271 [19:46:45] <wrksx> is judd a new bot?
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1275 [19:47:18] <sney> judd's been around for a decade or more
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1277 [19:47:24] <sney> sometimes he gets new features, though
1278 [19:47:33] <dob1> jelly, I don't know :) but it's ok now and the filename for the attachment is like I want
1279 [19:47:39] <sney> !judd
1280 [19:47:40] <dpkg> judd is a window into the Ultimate Debian Database (ask me about <udd>). Judd can look up package, PCI ID and kernel config information. See replaced-url
1281 [19:47:53] <wrksx> okay then, I guess no one talked to him right in front of me before
1282 [19:48:47] <jelly> has it really been that long
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1284 [19:49:06] <jelly> Filesystem created: Wed Dec 30 16:08:01 2009
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1290 [19:50:45] <sney> I started idling #debian regularly when squeeze was testing, and judd was already here by then
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1317 [20:02:53] <topoi> I really dislike the nitpicking with licencing regarding "texinfo-doc-nonfree" although understanding the considerations that lead to it.
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1320 [20:04:27] <sney> it's definitely not an ideal situation. but strong copyright law is what keeps free software free, so there isn't an easy fix on the debian side, either
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1322 [20:05:34] <topoi> sney: ..well I understand it insofar it being a generative cause, not in this particular case. I assume I had to dig into some mailing list archives to get a grasp about the specific argumentation.
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1325 [20:06:30] <abrotman> I think you can "/msg dpkg gfdl" for some background, if you want more
1326 [20:06:32] <topoi> For me as end user, when installing "info", I assume to have also the help on "info" included and it feels uncomfortably weird to get strange errors when trying to get to the documentation.
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1328 [20:06:52] <sney> the GFDL/DFSG thing has come up a few times, so you shouldn't need to dig very much. lists.debian.org is the correct resource though as you said
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1330 [20:07:53] <topoi> thanks, abrotman, I'll try that.
1331 [20:07:57] <sney> but maybe someone who uses info could file a wishlist bug, with a patch, so that when trying to use info on a system without non-free, they could see a more informative message rather than an error.
1332 [20:08:34] <topoi> sney: the error is "Cannot find node '(info)Help-Small-Screen'".. ;)
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1334 [20:09:13] <topoi> It's informative but as already stated it's not very understandable.
1335 [20:09:47] <zaherdirkey> hi, i have i686 arch debian buster, it is 32 , i want to run 64 project is that possible?
1336 [20:09:49] <sney> I'm not much of a programmer but I imagine it would be feasible to test for that condition, and instead print a short excuse about the GFDL and non-free, maybe with a link
1337 [20:10:25] <sney> zaherdirkey: multiarch is possible from a 32-bit system, though it depends on what you mean by "64 project"
1338 [20:10:37] <sney> also you will need a 64-bit kernel afaik
1339 [20:10:43] <abrotman> your CPU is actually only 32bit?
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1341 [20:11:02] <zaherdirkey> my cpu is 64
1342 [20:11:16] <zaherdirkey> sorry power outeage back later
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1344 [20:12:37] <sney> abrotman: good call, I retired my last 32-bit hardware a few weeks ago and I've already forgotten they exist. :D
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1359 [20:22:36] <jelly> it's not hard to run an amd64 kernel on an otherwise mostly i386 userspace and i386 dpkg.
1360 [20:22:38] <topoi> So what would be the favourable method to install one specific nonfree package (especially "texinfo-doc-nonfree") without inadvertently installing other nonfree components (introducing with adding non-free to sources.list)?
1361 [20:23:30] <jelly> topoi: you'll need to add non-free to sources.list, but nothing from main will depend on any package from there, so you're reasonably safe from accidentally something
1362 [20:23:58] <jelly> of course "texinfo-doc-nonfree" might itself have some other non-free dependencies
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1365 [20:25:02] <nkuttler> topoi: vrms might have a reporting mode or something
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1367 [20:27:15] <jelly> and you need to keep the repo enabled in case there's a... uh, security issue. In the docs.
1368 [20:28:15] <topoi> jelly: Ahh, of course. I want to install "texinfo-doc-nonfree" with dependencies. =) Is the naming scheme of nonfree packages always *-nonfree? I though when searching and installing packages (with non-free included in sources.list) it's rather easy to install non-free packages inadvertently?
1369 [20:29:04] <jelly> sadly it's not
1370 [20:29:37] <jelly> it IS relatively consistent with documentation bits that are GFDL+invariants.
1371 [20:30:08] <jelly> but you could accidentally install, dunno, rar
1372 [20:30:11] <jelly> ,v rar
1373 [20:30:12] <judd> Package: rar on amd64 -- jessie/non-free: 2:4.2.0+dfsg.1-0.1; stretch/non-free: 2:5.4.0+dfsg.1-0.1; bullseye/non-free: 2:5.5.0-1; buster/non-free: 2:5.5.0-1; sid/non-free: 2:5.5.0-1
1374 [20:30:52] <jelly> or nvidia drivers!
1375 [20:31:33] <topoi> God forbid!
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1377 [20:33:34] <topoi> jelly: at least "apt search" shows the affiliation. I did not understand your comment on the "documentation bits". Can you elaborate on that?
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1379 [20:34:50] <topoi> nkuttler: Are you being ironic? =) ..after all it's included in stable though.
1380 [20:35:14] <nkuttler> topoi: er? what?
1381 [20:35:30] <jelly> !gfdl
1382 [20:35:30] <dpkg> [gfdl] The GNU "Free" Documentation License, considered <non-free> by Debian in some cases. Read the discussion at replaced-url
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1385 [20:36:05] <jelly> topoi: ^ is why at least some of those docs are in non-free; I'm not sure about texinfo in particular.
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1389 [20:37:35] <topoi> nkuttler: "No non-free or contrib packages installed on $HOSTNAME! rms would be proud." ;)
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1392 [20:41:22] <topoi> I expect it's save to add non-free just temporary?
1393 [20:41:30] <sney> yup
1394 [20:41:41] <sney> you won't get updates is all
1395 [20:42:12] <topoi> sney: ..and rms won't be proud anymore. ;)
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1397 [20:43:13] <sney> haha. I mean, I think he has kind of a dim view of debian anyway.
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1425 [21:07:32] <alex11> so... debian 13 will be Trixie
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1428 [21:09:46] <wrksx> azerty
1429 [21:10:27] <alex11> thus breaking the 3 Bs of buster bullseye bookworm
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1439 [21:23:08] <pherel> big coce
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1441 [21:23:38] <Maxi1357> big coce
1442 [21:23:43] <pherel> big coce
1443 [21:23:45] <Maxi1357> big coce
1444 [21:23:51] <pherel> a h y e s
1445 [21:23:58] <Maxi1357> big coce
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1449 [21:25:37] <abrotman> Exciting ...
1450 [21:25:45] <Maxi1357> big coce
1451 [21:25:47] <Maxi1357> big coce
1452 [21:25:49] <Maxi1357> big coce
1453 [21:25:51] <Maxi1357> big coce
1454 [21:25:53] <Maxi1357> big coce
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1456 [21:27:37] <H-var> I agree
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1476 [22:02:18] <ws2k3> is there another way to find which file is at a specific inode? if i use find -inum NUM it taking ages search it needs to search like Alot of data
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1485 [22:06:53] <IdotMaster1> y e s
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1487 [22:09:55] <ws2k3> its an ext3 filesystem. is it safe to use debugfs -R "ncheck INUM" device 2>/dev/null?
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1490 [22:12:46] <phogg> safe as in non-destructive? Yes. But you must be root.
1491 [22:13:18] <phogg> it's also not necessarily any faster.
1492 [22:13:53] <ws2k3> phogg: yeah cause the problem is the data is on hdd and i need to search in like millions of files. so that can take forever
1493 [22:14:16] <phogg> there is, as far as I know, no inode-to-path-list table. It only maps the other way.
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1551 [23:38:17] <zaherdirkey> back
1552 [23:39:13] <zaherdirkey> i used `sudo dpkg --add-architecture amd64` in my debian buster 32 installation i got `pkg-config-dpkghook: warning: Architecture x86-64 not defined in architecture tables, ignored
1553 [23:39:13] <zaherdirkey> `
1554 [23:39:17] <ryouma> you could in principle hav esomething like slocate that also stores inode for future searches
1555 [23:39:37] <zaherdirkey> i want to add 64 support to my 32 installation
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1559 [23:47:54] <jhutchins> phogg: There are systems that index things like documenttion and binaries, but those usually rely on a scheduled background task.
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