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1[00:00:42] <Pegasus_RPG> Since I have no console access, what should the boot line be on a live CD? "default" "live" or something else?
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5[00:03:29] <Pegasus_RPG> hmm, seems "Debian"
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10[00:08:46] <Pegasus_RPG> mason: what's the default user name and password on the live images? I can't find it in the docs!
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17[00:10:03] <Pegasus_RPG> just found it on a Web search: user/live
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42[00:39:26] <mason> Pegasus_RPG: Ah, sorry, was AFK. Glad you found it.
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44[00:40:00] <mason> Pegasus_RPG: And you can elevate to root with a passwordless sudo from there, and install whatever you need for tools, including maybe openssh-server, etc.
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52[00:52:58] <Pegasus_RPG> problem is my NICs need non-free firmware to work. sigh
53[00:53:29] <Pegasus_RPG> I really only need a netinstall image with xfsprogs-udeb installed
54[00:54:24] <dvs> !firmware iso
55[00:54:24] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> and DVD images containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages are available from replaced-url
56[00:55:00] <Pegasus_RPG> Oh sweet, thank you!
57[00:55:06] <mason> Pegasus_RPG: There's replaced-url
58[00:55:08] <dvs> np
59[00:55:26] <mason> Oh, and I missed that while I was digging up the URL.
60[00:55:45] <mason> The trick to remember being that you want the live image there too.
61[00:55:55] <Pegasus_RPG> So does anyone know the command to install a udeb package in the rescue env?
62[00:56:57] <mason> Pegasus_RPG: apt-get and friends ought to be able to do that.
63[00:57:28] <Pegasus_RPG> In a live env, sure. But I'm talking about the netinst one where you only get ash/busybox
64[00:57:50] <mason> Ah, I never use that. Unsure what the installer does to wedge them in.
65[00:58:10] <Pegasus_RPG> I tried using expert mode but xfsprogs wasn't an option on its list (though reiserfsprogs was)
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88[01:17:38] <Eryn_1983_FL> hey guys
89[01:18:25] <Eryn_1983_FL> so im trying to do bluetoothctl and pactl from cron..
90[01:18:42] <Eryn_1983_FL> and its saying connection refused even from the login user
91[01:18:45] <Eryn_1983_FL> id
92[01:19:00] <Eryn_1983_FL> do i need to do something special for my crontab to work?
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95[01:21:37] <Eryn_1983_FL> :Q
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121[01:59:28] <mutante> there is a bug in libapache2-mod-security2. it uses an apache config line like "IncludeOptional /usr/share/modsecurity-crs/owasp-crs.load". The comment makes it clear the author expects this to be "optional", which is understandable since it's called IncludeOptional. But actually it's only optional if "wildcards are used" and this is just a file. So if you install apache2 and libapache2-mod-security and
122[01:59:34] <mutante> that's it and you attempt to restart the service.. you get from "no such file or directory" to "syntax error on line 12" and the service is down
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131[02:02:36] <RoyK> mutante: what§s in that line?
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133[02:02:42] <RoyK> what's
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136[02:03:31] <mutante> RoyK: IncludeOptional /usr/share/modsecurity-crs/owasp-crs.load
137[02:03:44] <mutante> with a comment above "# Include OWASP ModSecurity CRS rules if installed"
138[02:03:53] <mutante> just.. this syntax means it is NOT optional
139[02:04:11] <mutante> httpd docs "will be silently ignored (instead of causing an error) if wildcards are used" ugh
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141[02:04:27] <mutante> there is no wildcard.. then it's not optional :o
142[02:04:56] <mutante> and then as well that httpd thinks it's a syntax error when the file is not there as a bonus
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147[02:06:13] <mutante> i should use reportbug against libapache2-mod-security2 i suppose
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149[02:07:54] <mutante> except if that file does not come from the package, but it seems very much that it does
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151[02:09:13] <abff> mutante: you can use apt-file to load a database of files provided by packages
152[02:09:18] <abff> if you're uncertain
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155[02:12:47] <mutante> abff: good point. done and confirmed. it does
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159[02:15:51] <abff> mutante: well done
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167[02:30:39] <yuri0x0> hi I just downloaded the alsa topology conf-1.2.3 package, but I don't know where to install it on my debian 10 system, where should I insert the configuration files?
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172[02:36:33] <jim> yuri0x0, where did you get it?
173[02:36:44] <jim> do you have a link to that place?
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175[02:37:09] <jim> is it possible that debian already has it packaged?
176[02:37:17] <yuri0x0> ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/lib/alsa-topology-conf-1.2.3.tar.bz2
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178[02:37:32] <yuri0x0> I'm trying to install this
179[02:38:56] <abff> yuri0x0: apt show alsa-topology-conf it's already in the repos
180[02:39:04] <abff> oh shit I am on testing
181[02:39:08] <mutante> yuri0x0: my guess would be /etc/alsa/conf.d
182[02:39:08] <abff> nvm me
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184[02:39:19] <mutante> since it's for alsa and that .d dir is for config snippets
185[02:39:38] <quadrathoch2> ,v alsa-topology-conf
186[02:39:39] <judd> Package: alsa-topology-conf on amd64 -- bullseye: 1.2.2-1; sid: 1.2.2-1
187[02:39:54] <jim> oh look it is packaged
188[02:40:01] <abff> in bullsey not buster
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190[02:40:22] <jim> ,checkbackport alsa-topology-conf
191[02:40:22] <abff> it looks like it's under /usr/share/alsa/topology
192[02:40:22] <judd> Backporting package alsa-topology-conf in sid→buster/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: debhelper-compat (= 12).
193[02:41:06] <quadrathoch2> debhelper 12 is in buster
194[02:41:30] <jim> waht's debhelper-compat?
195[02:41:50] <quadrathoch2> jim it was renamed to debhelper. it's just to help creating debs ;)
196[02:41:54] <quadrathoch2> ,v debhelper
197[02:41:55] <judd> Package: debhelper on amd64 -- jessie: 9.20150101+deb8u2; jessie-security: 9.20150101+deb8u2; stretch: 10.2.5; stretch-backports: 12.1.1~bpo9+1; buster: 12.1.1; buster-backports: 13.2~bpo10+1; bullseye: 13.2; sid: 13.2
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200[02:43:34] <jim> what would I do if I wanted to build the package in buster?
201[02:43:44] <quadrathoch2> !ssb
202[02:43:44] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) apt update; apt install build-essential; apt build-dep packagename 4) apt -b source packagename 5) dpkg -i packagename-ver.deb To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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204[02:44:22] <jim> I know that part, what about the two different names debhelper and debhelper-compat?
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206[02:45:01] <quadrathoch2> dephelper-compat was renamed to debhelper, so you wouldn't need to backport it. or did I misunderstand you?
207[02:45:07] <yuri0x0> configure: error: No linkable libatopology was found.
208[02:45:20] <yuri0x0> Failed in the install alsa-utils
209[02:45:20] <jim> judd thinks it's not backportable
210[02:45:56] <quadrathoch2> jim, yes, because debhelper-compat is not in buster (because it was renamed to debhelper)
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212[02:47:03] <jim> do you mean that debhelper in buster was renamed to debhelper-compat in bullseye?
213[02:47:39] <quadrathoch2> ahh yes sorry, :/ jim
214[02:48:10] <jim> so what do I do to fix the problem stated by judd?
215[02:48:14] <yuri0x0> can't run alsaclt
216[02:48:27] <yuri0x0> 8alsactl
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218[02:48:35] <yuri0x0> alsactl
219[02:49:02] <quadrathoch2> idk jim
220[02:49:16] <jim> care to help me find out?
221[02:49:26] <quadrathoch2> as nobody ever fixed it, even admins, idk if there is a way to fix it (during buster/stable)
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225[02:53:14] <LtL> alsactl in alsa-utils package. in /usr/sbin/alsactl
226[02:54:06] <LtL> oh nevermind.
227[02:54:37] <abff> yea little more complicated than that
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229[02:55:15] <jmcnaught> yuri0x0: what are you trying to accomplish with this alsa topology? Are you trying to get sound to work?
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231[02:58:28] <yuri0x0> I want to install alsa-utils, and when I install alsa utils I get a message saying that the topology is missing
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233[02:58:53] <yuri0x0> onfigure: error: No linkable libatopology was found.
234[02:59:44] <jmcnaught> How are you installing alsa-utils? From the package in Debian, or from a source tarball?
235[03:00:37] <jim> yuri0x0, I'm trying to figure out, and get help for, making a backport for it work
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237[03:01:28] <quadrathoch2> jim which package?
238[03:01:42] <yuri0x0> source tarball
239[03:01:50] <yuri0x0> jmcnaught
240[03:02:15] <jmcnaught> yuri0x0: why? What is the core issue? Debian already has alsa-utils that you can install with "apt install alsa-utils"
241[03:02:17] <yuri0x0> Cool
242[03:02:26] <abff> ,v alsa-utils
243[03:02:27] <jim> jmcnaught, alsa-topology-conf
244[03:02:27] <judd> Package: alsa-utils on amd64 -- jessie: 1.0.28-1; stretch: 1.1.3-1; buster: 1.1.8-2; bullseye: 1.2.2-2; sid: 1.2.2-2
245[03:03:06] <yuri0x0> I want to install the latest version, 1.2.3, my machine has a lower version, which does not have alsactl
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247[03:04:21] <abff> are you sure it doesn't? I'm pretty sure alsactl lives in sbin, try running it with sudo
248[03:04:28] <quadrathoch2> jim, I just compiled alsa-topology-conf, it works flawlessly
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255[03:06:24] <yuri0x0> I'm sure, I'm logged in as root
256[03:06:36] <jmcnaught> yuri0x0: did you become root with "su"?
257[03:06:43] <abff> okay cool, you do you
258[03:06:52] <yuri0x0> Yes
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261[03:07:31] <jmcnaught> yuri0x0: you need to use "su -l" to get a root login with root's environment including PATH. You still have the normal user's PATH, which does not include /usr/sbin which is where alsactl lives.
262[03:07:49] <abff> alsactl has been around earlier than 1.1.8
263[03:08:06] <jmcnaught> !buster su
264[03:08:06] <dpkg> In buster, su no longer overrides PATH by default, requiring that you use "su -" or "su -l" for login shells (which is not really a new thing at all...). To approximate the previous behaviour, put "ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes" in /etc/login.defs. See replaced-url
265[03:08:07] <abff> there's a changelog for 1.1.7 on the alsa wiki that shows alsactl exists.
266[03:08:21] <abff> jmcnaught: news to me
267[03:08:31] <mutante> i was soo motivated to report the bug, but then i got "Unable to connect to Debian BTS (error: "timeout('timed out',)");" while using _reportbug_. so do i reportbug reportbug now :p
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269[03:11:10] <yuri0x0> Thanky you very much jmcnaught
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271[03:12:07] <jmcnaught> yuri0x0: you're welcome. It helps sometimes to state what the core issue is, it's hard to tell how far down the rabbit hole you are sometimes :)
272[03:12:16] <yuri0x0> Do you know how I can make my external microphone work in linux jmcnaught?
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274[03:13:00] <jmcnaught> yuri0x0: is it a USB microphone? In my experience it's plug and play, you can manage devices with pavucontrol.
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276[03:14:39] <yuri0x0> I've tried with pavucontrol but it won't, it recognizes the external microphone, but it doesn't capture the sound
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278[03:16:00] <jmcnaught> yuri0x0: in pavucontrol on the Configuration tab, do you have the profile set correctly?
279[03:16:31] <yuri0x0> What do you mean, profile?
280[03:16:41] <abff> pa works its just a lot of janky shit and jankier bandaids
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282[03:17:42] <jmcnaught> yuri0x0: see how each device has a profile drop-down? replaced-url
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289[03:21:12] <yuri0x0> A moment
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292[03:23:12] <yuri0x0> replaced-url
293[03:23:35] <yuri0x0> replaced-url
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295[03:23:53] <yuri0x0> I go here and come back
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297[03:25:19] <jmcnaught> yuri0x0: on my pavucontrol it shows microphone activity in the bar below the volume slider, does yours show any activity when you make noise into the microphone?
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300[03:30:29] <jim> quadrathoch2, as an ssb from sid?
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302[03:30:51] <quadrathoch2> yes jim
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307[03:34:42] <yuri0x0> Yes, look at the picture, a black bar, but when I use the external microphone, the bar does not increase, but when I use the internal microphone it increases due to the sound
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309[03:35:47] <jmcnaught> What kind of external microphone is it?
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311[03:38:58] <yuri0x0> replaced-url
312[03:39:31] <jim> quadrathoch2, themill (whose bot judd is) let us know judd hasn't learned about versioned provides yet, and that explains the error message from judd above
313[03:41:08] <quadrathoch2> ahh thanks, great to know
314[03:42:00] <jmcnaught> yuri0x0: the microphone works on other devices, and it has a good battery?
315[03:42:28] <yuri0x0> Yes it works
316[03:42:32] <yuri0x0> Yes it works
317[03:44:33] <jmcnaught> yuri0x0: I have seen before that an input source works but does not show activity in pavucontrol. What program are you recording with? Have you checked the pavucontrol Recording (Gravando?) tab to make sure that the recording stream is using the correct device (and not the monitor)?
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321[03:49:04] <jim> yuri0x0, there's a neat trick, you can get the source (debianized) from a later version and try to build it on an earlier version
322[03:49:52] <jim> I'm trying it now
323[03:52:42] <jim> yuri0x0, I got a package!
324[03:52:56] <jmcnaught> jim: I think we've moved beyond that. They were trying to build alsa-utils from source (which needed alsa-topology-conf) because they could not find alsactl, because of "su" and PATH not including /usr/sbin
325[03:53:20] <jim> oh ok
326[03:53:55] <jim> so he never needed alsa-topology-conf other than to build that other thing
327[03:54:04] <jmcnaught> yeah
328[03:54:34] <jim> so the package's purpose is to support compilation of things
329[03:54:51] <jmcnaught> Right now it seems like the soundcard works, the internal microphone works, but not when an external microphone is plugged into the jack.
330[03:55:41] <jim> I don't really have a clue how to fix that
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332[03:56:40] <genoobie> Hello all, I am looking to install a fairly light (CD sized) debian on my dell dimension 8400
333[03:56:45] <jim> does the ext mic work in that case?
334[03:56:58] <genoobie> where could I find an ISO for this?
335[03:57:38] <jim> genoobie, use a regular debian netinstall, and don't install as much :)
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343[04:05:44] <DammitJim> I've done Samba and nfs befoe
344[04:05:48] <DammitJim> before
345[04:06:06] <DammitJim> what do you guys recommend is the most reliable and easiest way to allow copying files from one server to another?
346[04:06:12] <DammitJim> for automated scripts
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348[04:06:33] <sponix> DammitJim: rsync
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350[04:06:41] <DammitJim> rsync over what?
351[04:06:49] <sponix> over anything
352[04:06:56] <DammitJim> remember, I want this to be done automatically
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354[04:07:08] <DammitJim> ok, rsync over samba?
355[04:07:21] <sponix> lol
356[04:07:25] <sponix> read up on rsync
357[04:07:34] <DammitJim> or you mean rsync itself?
358[04:07:38] <sponix> yes
359[04:07:44] <sponix> that is why I said rsync
360[04:07:46] <quadrathoch2> DammitJim ssh is probably best ;)
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362[04:08:06] <dvs> DammitJim, rsync only needs a network connection.
363[04:08:11] <DammitJim> hhhmmmm... I was considering that as well (I already have an rsync server running)
364[04:08:15] <sponix> quadrathoch2: rsync has features ssh/scp doesn't like "resume" :)
365[04:08:31] <quadrathoch2> ahh okay :)
366[04:08:49] <DammitJim> mind you, this is just to have a cron job copy files from one location to another
367[04:09:03] <sponix> it can also remove files at the destination if they no longer exist on the host, and LOTS of other cool shit
368[04:09:33] <DammitJim> yeah, for this project, I'm not necessarily looking for that
369[04:09:45] <DammitJim> at the end of a script, I just need to copy some generated files to another server
370[04:10:07] <sponix> I think you will be hard pressed to find something more fitting than rsync
371[04:10:43] <DammitJim> I though of just having a samba mount to the other server
372[04:10:55] <dvs> ...
373[04:10:58] <DammitJim> then just cp <file> /mnt/server/
374[04:12:49] <sponix> sure, you _could_ do that
375[04:13:20] <sponix> scp is an option also if you don't want to mess with all the mounting and so forth
376[04:13:41] <jim> backup the files then restore from the backup... borg backup is pretty good
377[04:13:43] <DammitJim> I'm conflicted between ssh keys
378[04:13:49] <DammitJim> and username/password combinations
379[04:14:01] <sponix> That is Linux though, there is probably at least a dozen ways to do it
380[04:14:11] <DammitJim> tru
381[04:14:40] <sponix> jim: I am just a fan of rsync and scp because they are already there for me when I need them
382[04:15:07] <jim> sponix, good enough
383[04:15:09] <DammitJim> tru
384[04:15:16] <sponix> Duplicity can be used, but hell I think that is just a python wrapper for rsync anyway :)
385[04:15:23] <DammitJim> btw, I'm not talking about taking backups
386[04:15:26] <DammitJim> that's next week
387[04:15:45] <DammitJim> I just need a VM that is doing some work and generates some files to copy the files to another server when it's done
388[04:16:01] <sponix> Any data of importance copied from one medium to another = backup of a kind
389[04:16:04] <jim> borg takes a bit of setup
390[04:16:20] <sponix> jim: hmm, too much work for me then :)
391[04:17:02] <sponix> rsync -avP ./local sponix@remote:/backup/
392[04:17:04] <sponix> done
393[04:17:46] <sponix> or maybe that was scp... they are so damn close to one another I could care less :)
394[04:18:11] <DammitJim> I forgot... how do I make rsync not ask me for a password?
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398[04:19:46] <sponix> DammitJim: if you "google" that.. It is probably a key based auth. Might even use the ssh system
399[04:20:01] <DammitJim> sponix, I have used a secrets file before
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401[04:20:37] <jim> sponix, well, look into it if you want to... I think it has some great features
402[04:21:20] <DammitJim> can I supply a password in a script for the rsync client?
403[04:21:35] <sponix> replaced-url
404[04:22:17] <sponix> replaced-url
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406[04:22:34] <DammitJim> oh no, but I don't want to do rsync over ssh
407[04:22:38] <DammitJim> that was my original question
408[04:24:48] <sponix> RSYNC_PASSWORD to the password you want to use or using the --password-file option. This may be useful when scripting rsync. WARNING: On some systems environment variables are visible to all users. On those systems using --password-file is recommended.
409[04:25:00] <sponix> DammitJim: "man rsync" does wonderful things also :)
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411[04:25:19] <sponix> So yes, you can have /etc/rsync_passwd or whatever and use that for scripting
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415[04:38:22] <DammitJim> thanks... I went with rsync
416[04:38:27] <DammitJim> simple enough with secrets
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462[06:01:42] <genoobie> hey all
463[06:01:54] <genoobie> I just booted debian 10 live xfce
464[06:02:03] <genoobie> and I want to wipe the HDD with 0's
465[06:02:07] <genoobie> how would I do this?
466[06:02:40] <kline> genoobie: dban
467[06:02:43] <petn-randall> genoobie: `cp /dev/zero /dev/sdX` as root, sdX being the correct drive you checked with `fdisk -l` first.
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469[06:03:16] <genoobie> petn-randall can I sudo this?
470[06:03:57] <petn-randall> genoobie: Yes, sudo gives you root permissions.
471[06:04:54] <genoobie> petn-randall, lastly, petn, looks like the HDD is broken up into sda1,2and 5
472[06:05:14] <petn-randall> genoobie: Yes, those are partitions on your disk.
473[06:05:45] <genoobie> so should I use some other thing to merge them first?
474[06:06:06] <petn-randall> Err no, if you wipe the disk the partitions are gone, too.
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476[06:06:33] <genoobie> so do I run that command you listed three times?
477[06:06:33] <kline> if you're asking these questions, using a tool like dban is probably a safer option
478[06:06:39] <petn-randall> genoobie: I'd double-check you don't need any data from that disk, this step is irreversible.
479[06:06:50] <genoobie> yeah, no info required.
480[06:07:07] <genoobie> kline is dban command line?
481[06:07:11] <petn-randall> kline: dban won't teach you about disk partitions.
482[06:07:35] <kline> petn-randall: i have a strong suspicion that genoobie doesnt really care about disk partitions
483[06:07:45] <petn-randall> dban is a different live distro.
484[06:07:51] <genoobie> I mean I *kindof* understand them.
485[06:07:51] <kline> genoobie: its an iso you can boot off a disk/usb stick like a livecd
486[06:07:59] <kline> and its specialised for wiping hard drives
487[06:07:59] <genoobie> gotcha.
488[06:08:10] <genoobie> yeah, but I already have this fancy xfce :)
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490[06:08:15] <kline> replaced-url
491[06:08:35] <genoobie> anyhow, do I have to that "cp" command three times because there are three partitions?
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493[06:08:55] <kline> (its free/open source, the company also has "Erasure" which is a commericial product for companies that need certifications of destruction etc)
494[06:09:11] <petn-randall> Does dban boot on current machines? Their last release is 5 years ago.
495[06:09:12] <genoobie> fdisk -l gives, sda1 as "linux", sda2, "extended", sda5 as "swap / solaris"
496[06:09:27] <genoobie> so just run the cp command three times...
497[06:09:38] <petn-randall> genoobie: No, just run it against the disk.
498[06:09:39] <kline> petn-randall: i believe so yes
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500[06:09:51] <petn-randall> genoobie: In this case it's sda.
501[06:09:58] <petn-randall> genoobie: You had linux on your PC before?
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503[06:10:02] <genoobie> oh oh oh...gotcha
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506[06:10:54] <genoobie> cp /dev/zero /dev/sda
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509[06:11:20] <genoobie> there's no indicator bar or nothing...how can I tell if it is working?
510[06:11:25] <genoobie> 160GB HDD btw
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513[06:12:11] <genoobie> petn-randall thanks a million for the help btw.
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516[06:13:10] <petn-randall> genoobie: When the prompt returns.
517[06:13:22] <petn-randall> Might take an hour or so, depending on the speed of the drive.
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520[06:15:51] <genoobie> 7200
521[06:16:01] <genoobie> ugh an hour?
522[06:17:12] <petn-randall> genoobie: It goes faster if you buy a faster drive ;P
523[06:17:25] <genoobie> haha...7200 is the Maxx
524[06:17:38] <genoobie> anyhow, I'm just wiping for resale.
525[06:17:45] <genoobie> someone bought this P4 tank for $38.
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527[06:18:10] <genoobie> They wanted me to ship *right away* because their computer broke and they need it for work.
528[06:18:16] <petn-randall> genoobie: There are 15k rpm HDDs, and SSDs are even faster.
529[06:18:31] <genoobie> Well...not in a 2005 P4 they're not :)
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531[06:18:50] <petn-randall> Someobody is still buying a P4 as a replacement?
532[06:18:51] <petn-randall> LOL
533[06:19:01] <petn-randall> Oh wait, private?
534[06:19:14] <petn-randall> I thought you meant a company bought it.
535[06:19:31] <petn-randall> They might be on a tight budget then.
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537[06:21:28] <genoobie> Yeah, true. But I cannot believe I got $38 for it.
538[06:21:45] <genoobie> I mean, if my kids had any interest, they could soup them up, etc.,
539[06:21:58] <genoobie> but they're bums...I blame the parent(s).
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556[06:42:39] <kristijonas> replaced-url
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558[06:43:09] <sponix> kristijonas: seems legit
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561[06:44:10] <petn-randall> kristijonas: works fine here.
562[06:44:17] <kristijonas> but only with KDE, other ISOs - not complained about.
563[06:45:05] <sponix> kristijonas: if you need that use wget
564[06:45:20] <ropeiX0e> Does anyone have fix for Firefox Home Highlights does not display bookmarks ?
565[06:45:46] <sponix> ropeiX0e: I can tell you how to start a completely fresh profile
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567[06:46:22] <kristijonas> I actually don't know if I need non-free, with my old laptop the standard iso didnt have wifi drivers
568[06:46:31] <kristijonas> but just got a new laptop
569[06:46:31] <ropeiX0e> sponix I tried fresh profile already
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571[06:49:09] <kristijonas> Intel Wireless 8260 (rev 3a), do I actually need non-free since I only have wifi, not cable connection?
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573[06:49:36] <sponix> kristijonas: try both
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577[06:51:06] <ropeiX0e> sponix can you get bookmarks to show in home highlights on your firefox ?
578[06:52:07] <sponix> ropeiX0e: I can get bookmarks to show, yes -- but I don't get what you mean by "in home highlights"
579[06:52:26] <sponix> I always have my home button and bookmarks visible -- pretty sure
580[06:53:05] <ropeiX0e> url page "about:home" and settings I have set only Web Search, Highlights and Bookmarks checked
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582[06:53:57] <sponix> ropeiX0e: so you want your bookmarks and home button visible in firefox, and you can't see them right now ?
583[06:54:40] <ropeiX0e> sponix no no I mean firefox home page is supposed to show my bookmarks with these settings I think, but it is not showing anything.
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585[06:56:21] <sponix> ropeiX0e: put this directly in the URL bar - about:preferences#home
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587[06:56:41] <sponix> ropeiX0e: if you don't have a URL bar, hit "alt+f" and use the menu to turn that back on
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589[06:57:22] <ropeiX0e> sponix yes, on that page I have checked Web Search, Highlights and Bookmarks. But nothing shows
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591[06:59:40] <sponix> ropeiX0e: well that "highlights" stuff is a collection of your prior web history of surfing. If on a completely new profile, it probably doesn't even have that information to display "yet"
592[07:00:15] <sponix> ropeiX0e: to go like slashdot.org freebsd.org replaced-url
593[07:00:36] <sponix> then start another tab, see if some of those show up there
594[07:01:03] <ropeiX0e> sponix I understand, but weird I thought it was supposed to show bookmarks too like it has the check box for
595[07:01:03] <sponix> I often configure my new tabs to just show up as replaced-url
596[07:02:26] <ropeiX0e> sponix thx anyways I guess I need to make my own html file for "bookmarks" then
597[07:03:35] <sponix> ropeiX0e: Oh... Mine will show "bookmarks" there if I have just them selected in highlights -- but only a few (although I have hundreds)
598[07:03:51] <sponix> I tell it 2 rows, and it only shows 1 row of like 4 or 5
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600[07:05:18] <genoobie> petn-randall do you have a sec?
601[07:05:34] <ropeiX0e> sponix can you check why those specific bookmarks show, I already tried moving folders and setting tags for the bookmarks...
602[07:05:38] <genoobie> I was running that command and the computer went into a bit of sleep...
603[07:05:47] <genoobie> now it won't come back from sleep.
604[07:06:23] <genoobie> any way I can revive it? I think the 'cp' command is still running, but there's no way fror me to know...
605[07:06:42] <genoobie> the HDD light is on and I think I hear it (it's pretty noisy in here).
606[07:07:08] <genoobie> or that question is to anyone...
607[07:07:17] <sponix> ropeiX0e: sorry I can't be of more help. But I have to get some rest now. This might be better addressed in a #firefox or #mozilla channel here on freenode. Pretty sure one of the other will exist
608[07:07:39] <genoobie> Basically I ran..."cp /dev/zero /dev/sda" and the computer went into "sleep"
609[07:07:58] <ropeiX0e> sponix okay np
610[07:08:01] <genoobie> I brought it back once, but when I logged in using "user:live" the screen went black
611[07:08:17] <genoobie> now I can tell the screen is being lit up
612[07:08:33] <genoobie> and the HDD light finally went off (about an hour)
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614[07:08:43] <genoobie> is there any way I can check on this machine's status?
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