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• 4[00:00:54] <dka> if I disable them
• 5[00:01:32] <dka> I have .config/chromium/NativeMessagingHosts/ but that's it
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• 30[00:16:29] <apus> hi, i just did a system upgrade from debian 9 to 10 and only later found out i had error messages due to /tmp being mounted noexec. at least one configuration file was not installed it seems and is now missing. how can i fix this? error message was: permission denied at /usr/share/perl5/debconf/confmodule.pm line 59
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• 45[00:22:41] <dka> I cant run chrome on debian it keep crashing my system and I reinstalled it and it keep crashing. Disabling extensions help but I need them for work. How can I do ?
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• 69[00:34:32] <icypee> hello
• 70[00:34:35] <icypee> i'm on a umpc and i can't right click with the touchscreen on icewm
• 71[00:34:35] <icypee> how do i set right click to ctrl + click?
• 72[00:34:53] <Mazhive> he guys issues with an result of a full upgrade to buster, it concerns my mariadb do i need to go to another channel or can some one guide me into the right direction
• 73[00:35:00] <icypee> is there some program or config file to do it?
• 74[00:35:24] <n4dir> now and then afte booting there is no network connection. ip -a doesn't show the wireless. I reboot and most of the times that will bring the connection up. Sometimes i have to reboot a couple of times. What would be an approach to solve the problem without having to reboot?
• 75[00:36:35] <quadrathoch2> Mazhive well with that few information imho, nobody can help you :)
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• 77[00:37:05] <icypee> is anyone able to help me?
• 78[00:38:07] <dvs> n4dir, use "allow-hotplug" instead of "auto" in interfaces file?
• 79[00:38:47] <n4dir> dvs: i am using network-manger, but let me check if there is some content in interfaces
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• 81[00:39:13] <dvs> n4dir, if you are using network-manager then there shouldn't be anything in interfaces.
• 82[00:39:19] <n4dir> weird enough there is content.
• 83[00:39:29] <Mazhive> well a respond is kind of positive so wel her comes the information you could use ,... mariadb gets in a service state of activating not activated so the sudo sysemctl status is grey the respond on a connection is Can't connect to MySQL server on '127.0.0.1 after a ps ea i can see a proces of mysql/mariadb
• 84[00:40:02] <n4dir> let me comment it, regards the wired connection and this machine has no wire anyway.
• 85[00:40:05] <Mazhive> sorry i cannot see a proces
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• 87[00:40:38] <dvs> n4dir, let me rephrase that: there shouldn't be anything related to the wireless interface in the interfaces file. There should be a lo interface.
• 88[00:40:56] <quadrathoch2> Mazhive could you paste the output of systemctl status mariadb on paste.debian.net and maybe even journcalctl -xe with the information around mariadb?
• 89[00:41:20] <n4dir> dvs: yeah, there is nothing regarding the wireless, thre is the lo interface but there also is the wired interface. Which i wouldn't have assumed
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• 93[00:41:54] <dvs> n4dir, if you want the wired connection to be handled by network manager, comment it out.
• 94[00:42:01] <n4dir> probably the wireless-chip is getting old ? might that be the problem?
• 95[00:42:29] <n4dir> dvs: yes, did it.
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• 97[00:43:16] <dvs> n4dir, I don't use network manager so I'm not sure how to check for nm problems.
• 98[00:43:46] <Mazhive> quadrathoch but ofcourse here is the link replaced-url
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• 100[00:43:58] <n4dir> dvs: just the file?
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• 102[00:44:13] <dvs> ???
• 103[00:44:17] <white_magic> can someone tell me - does dpkg have a switch/arg that let's me read the description of some package?
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• 105[00:45:35] <n4dir> :-) dvs you just use /etc/network/intefaces file to handle the connection?
• 106[00:45:43] <dvs> n4dir, yes
• 107[00:45:51] <dvs> white_magic, apt info <package_name>
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• 111[00:46:46] <white_magic> dvs: that works beautifully. For some reason 'dpkg --info <pkgname>' wasn't working, though
• 112[00:46:46] <n4dir> i am not much into wireless. though some say that would be easy too.
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• 127[00:55:35] <Mazhive> quadrathoch2 in the server conf file ( 50-server.cnf ) it tells me pid file /run/mysqld/mysqld.pid but pid file is created in /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
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• 133[00:58:59] <quadrathoch2> Mazhive could you post the 50-server.cnf? can't remember right now what should be inside
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• 135[01:00:05] <Mazhive> i saw the debian.conf is a automated conf file and is set to /var/run.....
• 136[01:00:13] <Mazhive> not /run
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• 139[01:01:18] <quadrathoch2> yeah, the directory should be /var/run
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• 148[01:06:39] <BalooRJ> Does anyone know how to set Canberra as the GTK Module in Debian? Right now it is set to GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge
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• 152[01:10:07] <Mazhive> quadrathoch2 here is the link i change the path but to no avail i succeeded to get it run replaced-url
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• 156[01:11:50] <quadrathoch2> Mazhive does the journalctl give you something?
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• 160[01:17:01] <Mazhive> it starts and stops every second
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• 162[01:19:15] <quadrathoch2> hm
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• 168[01:28:25] <quadrathoch2> Mazhive, sorry, can't really help you
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• 213[02:27:23] <yanmaani> Hey, is this project replaced-url
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• 219[02:29:05] <yanmaani> Because I see a very simple (and hacky) solution to problems 1, 2, 3, and 5. You have a big catalog of torrent files. These torrent files haphazardly contain packages. Might be duplicated, might be unordered, might be random.
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• 221[02:29:43] <yanmaani> Whenever you wish to download a package, you simply scan through your folder of torrent files until you find the latest match. `apt-get update` simply downloads additional torrent files.
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• 223[02:31:23] <yanmaani> So the first problem (too small pieces) is solved by the torrent compiler, for example by aligning them so that they're next to their dependencies. Really, 32k is not a big deal anyway.
• 224[02:32:52] <yanmaani> The second problem (too many for individual torrents) is solved by putting together several packages in one torrent file. The third problem (too large to track efficiently as a single torrent) is solved by haphazardly sharding it.
• 225[02:33:21] <yanmaani> the fifth problem (updates) is handled by just piling on additional torrents.
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• 234[02:42:24] <joepublic> aligning them so that they're next to their dependencies :==> dependency tracing is a little more complex than that...
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• 240[02:47:14] <yanmaani> There's no need for it to be good, though. The realistic worst case is that ~30 kb of bandwidth is "wasted".
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• 242[02:48:25] <yanmaani> The easiest system would be to flag some packages as "hot", like libc, packages which are expected to be installed on every system. Then try to align the small packages so that they're next to them. Or just sort them by size, so that whoever downloads one small package downloads most of them.
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• 245[02:51:35] <yanmaani> Since the users will be seeding, and all of the repository is as valuable, it's not a great problem whatever happens.
• 246[02:53:13] <joepublic> Popcon is the official resource for tracking package popularity beyond packages that are always installed.
• 247[02:54:12] <joepublic> you have suggested that packages should be packed near dependencies, that they should be packed by popularity, and that they should be packed by size. Presumably not all at once, since that's impossible, right?
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• 249[02:55:19] <yanmaani> It doesn't matter too much. Even with random packing, you wouldn't waste that much data.
• 250[02:56:06] <sney> if you combined binary packages that came from the same source package, and from there sorted by popcon numbers, it would probably be good enough. but this still looks like a solution in want of a problem
• 251[02:57:27] <joepublic> If I was a small downstream 'based on debian' distro, with next to no infrastructure, I would love a pre-built torrent distribution mechanism. But I am not such a thing, so...
• 252[02:57:28] <yanmaani> Right. If you have 10000 packages installed, and you waste 32 KiB for each package, that's still only 320 MiB of bandwidth.
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• 255[02:59:08] <yanmaani> Also, BitTorrent v2 supports file-level hashing.
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• 257[03:00:17] <yanmaani> Also, you can just use standard alignment and zero-pad it. Most civilized torrent clients support this, I think
• 258[03:00:32] <yanmaani> Then your 1 KiB package will require precisely 1 KiB of downloading
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• 266[03:09:04] <tyzef> Hi! I need to install Debian on live USB to make my Debian portable you know, do I need a swap on that Debian?
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• 351[04:57:46] <john2x> Hi, is /usr/lib/python2.7/debconf.py safe to delete? The context is our Docker image built from debian:stretch-slim is tripping our vulnerability scans and I suspect it's because it thinks it has python2.7 installed (which it doesn't)
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• 361[05:04:26] <Mazhive> quadrathoch2 i figured it out so far the deamon is not running doing it manually it works but the deamon does not work..
• 362[05:05:29] <Mazhive> i think its a permission problem the 50-server.conf i used as base for the manually running
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• 364[05:07:17] <Mazhive> sudo mysqld --user=mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --tmpdir=/tmp --lc-messages-dir=/usr/share/mysql --bind-address=127.0.0.1 --query_cache_size=16M --log_error=/var/log/mysql/error.log --expire_logs_days=10 --character-set-server=utf8mb4 --collation-server=utf8mb4_general_ci
• 365[05:07:28] <Mazhive> works fine
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• 375[05:14:55] <Mazhive> i get this with the deamon InnoDB indexes are inconsistent with what defined in .frm for table
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• 390[05:32:03] <Mazhive> it might be a corrupted database that causes mariadb to crash.
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• 471[08:06:40] <KOLANICH> Hello everyone. What is docker.debian.net? Is it official? Why doesn;t it end on `org`?
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• 473[08:10:19] <sney> KOLANICH: debian.net stuff is semi-offical, it's basically debian developer-only web space. you can't count on it always being there, but the software you get from there is from debian people
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• 475[08:11:17] <KOLANICH> sney: Thanks.
• 476[08:11:34] <sney> np
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• 486[08:28:16] <konfujen> what is the newest version of deban that still uses sysvinit ?
• 487[08:31:30] <nkuttler> konfujen: replaced-url
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• 489[08:32:32] <konfujen> thanks
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• 491[08:39:59] <KOLANICH> Should lsb-release -sc return n/a on s8d?
• 492[08:40:07] <KOLANICH> *sid
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• 495[08:42:09] <sney> lsb-release isn't really supported on debian anymore, if it returns something weird that's to be expected
• 496[08:43:35] <KOLANICH> sney: what are the recommended ways to get the info that can be got via lsb-release?
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• 500[08:53:46] <themill> KOLANICH: what do you actually want to know?
• 501[08:53:59] <themill> One of the reasons that noone is worrying much about it is that there is no useful info
• 502[08:55:18] <KOLANICH> themill: I want to automatically add or rewrite apt sources in Dockerfiles
• 503[08:55:33] <themill> yuck
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• 505[08:57:34] <KOLANICH> themill: so I have to get release name and similar info automatically since it is a frequent part of an apt source string
• 506[08:58:01] <themill> I think the cart and horse are in the wrong order.
• 507[08:59:02] <KOLANICH> themill: what do you mean?
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• 528[09:18:58] <mert> Mazhive: check permissions, because w/ sudo runs ok, without it will run as mysql user
• 529[09:20:16] <mert> KOLANICH: i use ARG before FROM, which you can use as parameter in from, then specifying ARG without value inherits top-level arg. so you can use that...
• 530[09:20:32] <mert> or do something with /etc/os-release file
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• 544[09:33:42] <KOLANICH> mert: thanks. About os-release - this means I will have to essentially rewrite lsb-release for that, since the file format used requires parsing. I guess it may make more sense to fix the existing one. About an env variwble - I have multiple images stacked upon each other. So using the variable means I will have to persist it within the images themselves.
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• 560[09:40:58] <mert> KOLANICH: just do `source /etc/os-release` it will make all of them env-vars
• 561[09:41:03] <mert> its posix shell compatible
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• 563[09:41:17] <KOLANICH> mert: thanks
• 564[09:41:42] <mert> there is also /etc/debian_version but idk how this might help with sources list
• 565[09:42:27] <mert> in os-release `deb replaced-url
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• 567[09:43:13] <themill> that's not going to help in testing or sid
• 568[09:45:51] <foul_owl> How do I kill thunar if kill -9 doesn't work
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• 572[09:46:20] <foul_owl> I got a message about an SD card not being ejected (incorrect, I ejected it before removing) and now thunar has crashed and apparently can't be killed
• 573[09:46:30] <foul_owl> My goal here is to simply restart thunar
• 574[09:47:57] <ksk> foul_owl: what does "doesnt work" mean in that case?
• 575[09:50:47] <foul_owl> kill -9 has no effect
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• 577[09:50:55] <joepublic> My guess... expected: process exists. kill -9 process. process no longer exists. observed: kill -9 process. process still exists.
• 578[09:51:07] <foul_owl> exactly
• 579[09:51:27] <ksk> Not much you can do Im afraid apart from rebooting.
• 580[09:52:49] <ksk> if rebooting does not work (might totally be in that case) take a look at magic sysrequests.
• 581[09:52:58] <foul_owl> Understood, thank you
• 582[09:53:46] <foul_owl> It does seem like a major OS flaw, I know Linux wasn't designed for the desktop, but having to reboot everytime the file manager doesn't like an SD is unfortunate
• 583[09:55:03] <ksk> while you might argue on the design of linux, debian its goal is of course to give you a stable desktop.
• 584[09:57:30] <joepublic> I suppose no joy with `thunar -q`
• 585[09:57:33] <foul_owl> The issue here is with Linux though right? Not Debian? How Linux handles io problems and the -9 signal?
• 586[09:58:05] <foul_owl> No luck with "thunar -q" sadly
• 587[09:58:58] <foul_owl> In any case, thank you for the help!
• 588[09:59:55] <joepublic> sure, may the force be with you
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• 603[10:23:04] <SanchoPensa> hey guys!
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• 606[10:23:57] <SanchoPensa> I just got my brandnew Mushkin Impact 256GB USB flash drive.
• 607[10:23:57] <SanchoPensa> When I plug it in absolutely nothing happens.
• 608[10:23:57] <SanchoPensa> Is it broken, or does Debian simply have no drivers for it?
• 609[10:27:27] <ksk> SanchoPensa: what does "dmesg | tail" say? (replaced-url
• 610[10:27:33] <ksk> (as root)
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• 612[10:28:13] <ksk> As there is a common standard for usb drivers, there is no need for a stick-specific driver.
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• 634[10:50:07] <SanchoPensa> ksk: according to dmesg it is being found: replaced-url
• 635[10:50:20] <SanchoPensa> but gparted does also not show it
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• 637[10:52:17] <SanchoPensa> ksk: when I refresh the view in gparted it keeps searching very long, status: confirming /dev/sdd
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• 639[10:52:52] <ksk> I dont know gparted. I use the commandlinetool.
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• 643[10:54:21] <SanchoPensa> ksk: Gparted is basically a graphical frontend to common commandline tools; when you apply any operations, you can follow exactly, what commands it excercises, and those are standard commandline operations. highly recommendable, if you're not familiar with it yet!
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• 645[10:55:12] <ksk> I can do the same without a GUI, thanks :P
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• 648[10:55:26] <SanchoPensa> ok, it is apparently formatted to exfat. never heard bevore... :D
• 649[10:55:36] <SanchoPensa> ksk: yeah sure, me too! :D
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• 651[10:55:59] <Johann> yes, it's common for big usb keys, you can insntall the fuse drivers and you will be able to mount your usb key
• 652[10:57:30] <SanchoPensa> Johann: very well, thank you, gentlemen!
• 653[10:57:54] <SanchoPensa> problem is, they are already installed...
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• 656[11:00:19] <ksk> What is your actual Problem by the way?
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• 658[11:00:46] <SanchoPensa> hmm, that is funky... mkntfs says /dev/sdd1 does not exist. While it is actually being displayed by gparted.
• 659[11:00:49] <ksk> That it does not get mounted automaticly? That totally depends on your deskopt. Did you try mounting it? Did you try creating a partition/filesystem should there not already be one?
• 660[11:01:07] <ksk> paste "parted /dev/sdd; print" maybe.
• 661[11:01:51] <SanchoPensa> ksk: it is not being shown in file manager, and usually all drives are being mounted automatically...
• 662[11:03:06] <SanchoPensa> ksk: one moment please...
• 663[11:03:30] <ksk> If the drive is new, or even used, might be its in a configuration which is not mountable (for whatever reasons)
• 664[11:03:44] <ksk> For example windows installation media sticks behave strangely under linux, as far as I remember.
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• 666[11:05:05] <SanchoPensa> ksk: it would appear so... currently all operations on the stick take a small eternity.
• 667[11:05:56] <SanchoPensa> right now i deleted the partition, made a new one, now I am formatting it to ntfs, so that it can also be mounted at friends'...
• 668[11:06:13] <bipul> Hi, where i can download debian 1.0 or debian 2.0 ?
• 669[11:06:20] <ksk> dding some bytes to the drive could also help, SanchoPensa.
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• 671[11:06:39] <SanchoPensa> ksk: just to test?
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• 674[11:07:14] <ksk> SanchoPensa: to overwrite the (strange?) partitiontable.
• 675[11:07:29] <ksk> (this will kill your data btw)
• 676[11:07:32] <SanchoPensa> ksk: i see
• 677[11:07:48] <SanchoPensa> ksk: no data, it's brand new, as mentioned above...
• 678[11:07:52] <SanchoPensa> so, no worries there.
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• 680[11:09:23] <SanchoPensa> oh boy... same error. mkntfs returns: Failed to access /dev/sdd1 no such file or directory.
• 681[11:09:39] <SanchoPensa> which is pretty odd, since I just created it successfully
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• 683[11:10:37] <ksk> I had the case once where I was not able to make it work on linux. Moved to Windows, did a quick format (Vfat) over there, and it worked again.
• 684[11:10:55] <ksk> not really something to say in #debian, but eh..
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• 691[11:13:41] <SanchoPensa> ksk: heh! problem is, I don't operate windows on any of my computers, would have to do it at my son's...
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• 693[11:14:46] <SanchoPensa> ksk: i just found an interesting error. gparted failed as described above, so I just tried with parted, and parted tells me, that the values, that gparted was using for the (start) end blocks are outside the bounds of the disk.
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• 697[11:17:47] <SanchoPensa> ksk: ok, now it's becoming really phunny, would you have a look at this, please? replaced-url
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• 701[11:25:10] <SanchoPensa> ksk: ok, I just dded a few bytes to the drive as you recommended, now it isn't being revonized at all anymore. SHIT! :D
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• 738[12:05:11] <SanchoPensa> ksk: speaking of windows: I rebooted, now it works! :D
• 739[12:05:36] <annadane> shame on you
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• 742[12:06:02] <SanchoPensa> rofl
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• 744[12:06:43] <SanchoPensa> well, since debian seems to become ever closer to windows, f.ex. doint aoutomatic updates without telling anybody, I thought, why not giving a try.
• 745[12:07:21] <SanchoPensa> I suppose, those automatic updates were the reason in the first place, since I hadn't rebooted though prompted to do so...
• 746[12:07:35] <annadane> not by default
• 747[12:07:46] <annadane> you have to specifically set up auto updates
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• 764[12:31:14] <TestKees> /msg dpkg apt suite changed
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• 799[13:09:29] <Mazhive> mert thanx. i tried it seems one of the (luckyly) abandend databases had e corrupted table i just dropped the database after i made a backup. and now the daemon seems to run happily...
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• 803[13:19:35] <ksk> SanchoPensa: sorry, I had other things on my mind. Glad you sorted it out.
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• 840[13:58:43] <dka> Hello
• 841[13:59:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1180
• 842[13:59:47] <dka> I keep having my debian linux session crashing when chrome open, I can run it with --disable-extensions. I have removed and purge, reinstalled, disabled sync, it worked, I restored the sync and wanted to remove the google hangout extensions which cause the crash, but it didn't sync instantly, and when it did, I was disconnected instantly, I don't know how to remove Google Hangout extensions from my sync is there a way I can get to work soon
• 843[13:59:52] <dka> ? I need chrome
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• 858[14:16:21] <tinga> Hi. Why is this happening?: I'm on a x86-64 stretch system, "apt-get dist-upgrade libc6:i386" says "libc6:i386 is already the newest version (2.28-8)", "apt-get dist-upgrade libc6-dev:i386" says "libc6-dev:i386 : Depends: libc6:i386 (= 2.24-11+deb9u4) but 2.28-8 is to be installed, Depends: linux-libc-dev:i386 (>= 4.9.130-2) but it is not going to be installed", "apt-get install libc6-dev:i386 linux-libc-dev:i386 libc-dev-bin:i386 libc6:i386" says
• 859[14:16:21] <tinga> "libc-dev-bin:i386 : Depends: libc6:i386 (< 2.25) but 2.28-8 is to be installed" "libc6-dev:i386 : Depends: libc6:i386 (= 2.24-11+deb9u4) but 2.28-8 is to be installed"
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• 865[14:21:46] <mert> tinga: multiarch system (dpkg --print-foreign-architectures)
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• 867[14:24:56] <ksk> !bat
• 868[14:24:56] <dpkg> [Basic Apt* Troubleshooting]. To diagnose your problem, we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
• 869[14:25:01] <ksk> tinga: ^
• 870[14:25:03] <kreyren> How do i fix this on debian? replaced-url
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• 872[14:28:33] <finn0> I'm reporting a bug on BTS about `apt` using reportbug package. When reportbug asked for adding meta information to add with bug report like add content of "/etc/apt/sources.list", "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/riot-im.list" etc I've answered no, because I don't think these are needed in report itself.
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• 876[14:31:44] <finn0> But in "Other systemt information" section, these information are available "-- (/etc/apt/sources.list present, but not submitted) --", "-- (/etc/apt/sources.list.d/riot-im.list present, but not submitted) --"; similiarly it includes all of source file available in source.list.d folder.
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• 878[14:33:03] <finn0> When I submit my report, does above information (content in "Other system information") also attached with report?
• 879[14:34:47] <finn0> Means does my report contain list of all source file present in source.list.d directory, despite I don't want them to included in report?
• 880[14:36:17] <finn0> Or it's some kind comment (statement start and end with --), which will get ignored BTS.
• 881[14:37:00] <tinga> mert, ksk: replaced-url
• 882[14:37:49] <mert> why do you have i386 (eg for steam?)
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• 884[14:38:18] <tinga> I'm trying to cross compile rust programs to i386
• 885[14:38:32] <mert> you may try `apt install -f` only if somethign interrupted mid-install
• 886[14:38:42] <mert> or `dpkg --configure -a`
• 887[14:38:55] <tinga> apt install -f # no problem shows up
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• 889[14:39:05] <tinga> dpkg --configure -a #ditto
• 890[14:39:05] <dpkg> bugger all, i dunno, tinga
• 891[14:40:17] <tinga> Heh, the same thing happens in testing (bullseye)
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• 893[14:41:37] <tinga> Hmm, is it because the -dev packages install into the same location for every architecture, and uninstalling libc6-dev:amd64 would remove tons of packages?
• 894[14:41:49] <tinga> But that should say such, no?
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• 896[14:44:58] <jmcnaught> ,v libc6
• 897[14:44:59] <judd> Package: libc6 on amd64 -- jessie: 2.19-18+deb8u10; jessie-security: 2.19-18+deb8u10; stretch-security: 2.24-11+deb9u1; stretch: 2.24-11+deb9u4; buster: 2.28-10; bullseye: 2.30-8; sid: 2.30-8; experimental: 2.31-0experimental2
• 898[14:45:30] <jmcnaught> tinga: you have 2.28-8 on stretch?
• 899[14:46:16] <mert> imho you should have -i386 not :i386 suffix
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• 901[14:46:58] <mert> eg: libc6-i386 not libc6:i386 (former one would replace amd64 version)
• 902[14:47:41] <jmcnaught> If this is a stretch system you cannot upgrade to the libc6 from buster without upgrading the rest of the system, has nothing to do with multiarch.
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• 904[14:47:58] <mert> ok, nvm then :D
• 905[14:48:37] <jmcnaught> !bat
• 906[14:48:37] <dpkg> [Basic Apt* Troubleshooting]. To diagnose your problem, we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
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• 908[14:48:51] <jmcnaught> tinga: if you want to figure it out this information will he helpful ^^
• 909[14:49:47] <tinga> jmcnaught, see the link to paste.debian.net I sent above
• 910[14:50:14] <tinga> trying -386
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• 912[14:52:39] <jmcnaught> tinga: where did you get the buster libc6 from? Your "apt policy libc6:i386 says installed is 2.28-8, which is wrong for stretch.
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• 914[14:53:35] <tinga> Hmm, I installed Signal at some point, maybe other stuff I don't remember right now. But then, I didn't do such in the testing system that I tried it on and where it fails too.
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• 916[14:54:55] <joepublic> "I installed some [outside] stuff I don't remember" stands a good chance of being at the root of the problem.
• 917[14:55:21] <tinga> Can anyone verify it works on their system?
• 918[14:55:50] <jmcnaught> That what works?
• 919[14:56:03] <tinga> apt-get install libc6-dev:i386 on an amd64 system
• 920[14:56:42] <tinga> While also having libc6-dev:amd64 installed
• 921[14:58:41] <tinga> mert, I've tried "apt-get install libc6-dev-i386" and the only difference is that instead of "Depends: libc-dev-bin:i386 (= 2.24-11+deb9u4)" it says "Depends: libc6-dev (= 2.24-11+deb9u4) but 2.28-8 is to be installed" and additionally says "Recommends: gcc-multilib but it is not going to be installed"
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• 923[14:59:57] <tinga> BTW, do I really *need* libc6-dev:i386, is it any different from the amd64 one? Maybe I don't even need it. I'm just trying to solve this issue when using the rust compiler:
• 924[15:00:15] <tinga> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find Scrt1.o: No such file or directory
• 925[15:00:27] <jmcnaught> Here on my buster system installing libc6-dev:i386 requires installing linux-libc-dev:i386 which in turn removes linux-libc-dev:amd64 and libcd-dev:amd64.
• 926[15:00:36] <jmcnaught> But you still have the wrong version of libc6 somehow.
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• 928[15:00:48] <tinga> (Scrt1.o actually *is* part of libc6-dev:amd64)
• 929[15:00:52] <joepublic> but libc6-dev-i386 installs fine?
• 930[15:01:09] <mert> probably he run something which fiddled with /etc/apt/sources.list and .d/* files
• 931[15:01:10] <bipul> How to install debian from debian_1.3.1_iso ?
• 932[15:01:23] <tinga> jmcnaught, alright I'll try "apt-get install libc6-dev-i386" in the testing chroot
• 933[15:02:07] <jmcnaught> I just said that you can't have both installed at once.
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• 937[15:02:26] <joepublic> - != :
• 938[15:02:26] <tinga> Yeah fair enough
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• 940[15:03:00] <tinga> OK, I'll install a fresh system then I guess
• 941[15:03:28] <jmcnaught> Just remember that you cannot upgrade libc6 version on a Debian release, it's the most important library on the system.
• 942[15:04:36] <tinga> I just don't understand why the same issue (with different version numbers) happens on testing.
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• 944[15:05:07] <tinga> I version my files in /etc/apt, and can verify I never changed sources.list or any other file there from testing.
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• 947[15:06:00] <jmcnaught> tinga: testing is constantly changing until it is frozen, there are dependency issues sometimes in testing.
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• 949[15:06:29] <jmcnaught> a dependency issue on stable is a bug, but not if it's caused by introducing packages from a newer release.
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• 972[15:24:57] <tinga> jmcnaught, mert, I've solved it by downgrading those packages to what they originally were. Thanks for pointing out where the issue came from!
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• 987[15:31:02] <finn0> Ah! reportbug text interface allow to edit these information.
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• 995[15:39:55] <jmcnaught> tinga: you're welcome, glad you got it resolved :)
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• 1004[15:44:55] <tinga> I now remember I installed the nodejs from testing, more than a year ago, and given that I was in an interview and this was my secondary laptop I was risking breakage.
• 1005[15:45:11] <tinga> But I ran the testing libc since then and never had a single issue till today :)
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• 1008[15:49:22] <ksk> red flags everywhere ;)
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• 1046[16:31:24] <mert> ksk, tinga: its a miracle that machine works :D
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• 1066[16:50:41] <JustTheDoctor> can anyone help me fix this apt-get install? replaced-url
• 1067[16:50:47] <JustTheDoctor> im running debian 10
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• 1075[16:55:59] <tinga> mert, given that libc is used by various programs not from the distro, it *should* be backwards compatible. My experience simply proves for my limited set of usage scenarios that it is.
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• 1077[16:56:41] <tinga> (And apparently the same is true for the other libs that nodejs depended on.)
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• 1079[16:57:49] <tinga> (It wasn't many, I cound 11 libraries other than libc* ones that were downgraded.)
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• 1188[18:31:22] <lf94> Would anyone know why a debian package does not install its doc files?
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• 1190[18:31:36] <lf94> Specifically, files in <pkg>/usr/share/doc/<pkgname> ?
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• 1192[18:36:01] <mert> maybe something to related with man&man-db ?
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• 1194[18:37:26] <oerheks> sometimes a multi-arch issue?
• 1195[18:37:55] <lf94> Mmm
• 1196[18:38:02] <mert> oerheks: are u serious or sarcasm :D
• 1197[18:38:11] <lf94> It's a package I've made myself, and I've checked the contents with dpkg-deb -c
• 1198[18:38:25] <lf94> My documentation is in there, it's just not installing? It's really weird because everything else installs?...
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• 1202[18:39:34] <sney> lf94: I think the man page for dh_installdocs has what you need, otherwise ask in #packaging on OFTC
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• 1205[18:39:58] <lf94> sney: my docs are in the package :)
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• 1208[18:40:18] <lf94> And yes, dh_installdocs does say some useful things, but I've opted for what it suggested this time: to use dh_install instead
• 1209[18:40:27] <lf94> Ok, I'll go there X) Thank you
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• 1212[18:40:52] <oerheks> mert, no, seriously. like this bug, replaced-url
• 1213[18:40:53] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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• 1215[18:41:36] <mert> oerheks: okay srry :)
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• 1217[18:42:01] <oerheks> mert, this happens more with ubuntu than debian, true.
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• 1265[19:13:58] <jiraiya23> hello
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• 1284[19:37:47] <dvs> io
• 1285[19:38:58] <Whyvn> how can i retrieve a public key for GPG when using apt update? I am getting The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available GPG Error451
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• 1291[19:43:25] <Whyvn> apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys worked thankfully
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• 1314[20:11:27] <lifostack> hi all, i just used gdebian to install BlueJ and i had some odd issues is this the right channel for support? Or somewhere else perhaps?
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• 1316[20:11:34] <lifostack> er, gdebi i think its called
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• 1319[20:16:40] <annadane> lifostack, i think it's ok to ask here
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• 1340[20:54:05] <kreyren> What do i need on debian to get drivers for ATI/AMD Radeon HD 6550M ?
• 1341[20:54:22] <kreyren> and like to have actually working GPU~
• 1342[20:54:30] <kreyren> i though that firmware-amd-graphics is enough O.o
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• 1347[20:56:21] <kreyren> ah i have that disabled in kernel cli
• 1348[20:56:24] <kreyren> heh
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• 1350[20:57:05] <Casper26> Hey what is the best way to surpress all boot text so that only the plymouth boot screen shows?
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• 1360[21:01:18] <jhutchins> !radeon
• 1361[21:01:18] <dpkg> Radeon is a brand of graphic processing units by AMD/ATI (replaced-url
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• 1379[21:13:43] <bipul> Hi i'm facing an issue while installing debian 2.1 Please check replaced-url
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• 1385[21:23:00] <search_social> Casper26: quiet?
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• 1387[21:23:38] <Casper26> Got quiet splash still shows some dmar and acpi errors
• 1388[21:24:04] <Casper26> i would like to surpress all text
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• 1390[21:25:30] <EdePopede> bipul: hamm? wow. brings back memories. but what's wrong with that directory? can you switch to another tty and check it from there?
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• 1394[21:28:08] <bipul> EdePopede, I'm installing this on my virtualbox
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• 1396[21:28:21] <search_social> Casper26: dmesg -D ?
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• 1398[21:28:34] <this_paradis> maybe missing /boot partition?
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• 1400[21:29:28] <search_social> how is it displaying errors if splash screen is on? it's just spraypainting all over the picture?
• 1401[21:29:49] <Casper26> gives no output
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• 1405[21:31:21] <search_social> you mean the splash screen is not in fact showing?
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• 1408[21:32:40] <Casper26> the splash screen shows but i stll get text warnings that show before it
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• 1410[21:33:20] <search_social> dofesn't that happen on ubuntu too?
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• 1414[21:34:34] <Casper26> yes but there should be a way to surpress the kernel messages
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• 1431[21:46:47] <Casper26> I got it had to put quiet splash loglevel=3 changing the default loglevel fixed it
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• 1551[23:19:46] <jhutchins> Casper26: Why is that important to you? Those messages can be very useful.
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• 1554[23:20:58] <Casper26> because i dont want to see anything except for the splash screen if i need those messages thier logged
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• 1556[23:21:48] <jhutchins> bipul: Why are you messing with verrsions that old?
• 1557[23:22:24] <jhutchins> Casper26: You said what you want, you didn't answer why.
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• 1562[23:23:54] <Casper26> because i want a clean boot process
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• 1573[23:28:16] <Johann> Casper26: keep in mind that if your system stops booting for whatever reason, youu won't be able to see the logs to debug why easily.
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• 1586[23:39:55] <Casper26> loglevel 4 is default and logs warnings of non imminent errors loglevel 3 logs errors that are non critical or worse which is all i need to see.
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• 1590[23:42:45] <Johann> I know, sometimes the clue as to why you have fatal error is in previous warning, there's a reason 4 is the default. Just making sure you have it in mind in case you have issue in the future.
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• 1595[23:48:54] <Lampion> Hello everyone ! │ aclaivi
• 1596[23:48:56] <Lampion> │23:48:09 Lampion | It's super late and I'm kinda tired so I apologize if what I say isn't clear. │ adamg
• 1597[23:48:58] <Lampion> │23:48:32 Lampion | Me and a friend are trying to setup ipip tunnels between both or computers, but nothing we're │ Adamus1red
• 1598[23:49:00] <Lampion> │ | doing is working. │ Adie
• 1599[23:49:02] <Lampion> │23:48:43 Lampion | Does anyone know how to do it ?
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• 1602[23:49:30] <annadane> oh dear
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• 1607[23:57:24] <EdePopede> "kinda tired". true that.
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