4[00:00:59] <davis> I'm trying to use a tool which requires you to either use a ubuntu .deb or a .tgz file. Supposedly the ubuntu deb works, but it fails. It has the same error as when I use the tool from the .tgz. It gives errors regarding "cannot load config file from /etc/fonts/fonts.conf prior to segfaulting. I'm using Debian 10 stable and I have not done anything to fonts. Any idea what I should do?
12[00:05:48] <JC_Denton> i'm having a really hard time on a new buster VM with md (raid1)->luks->lvm and grub. the raid and crypto modules are never installed, so the system boots straight into grub rescue. the disks are small msdos partitioned w/ raid autodetect. i can boot into rescue mode, assemble md0, luksOpen, vgscan & vgchange w/o issue. not sure how to force grub to load the appropriate modules.
13[00:05:50] <JC_Denton> GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y is set and iv'e tried PRELOAD_MODULES as well w/ no avail. i see in grub-install verbose the modules are never loaded. buster did do LUKS2 vs. LUKS1, if that makes a difference. any info/assist is appreciated :)
14[00:06:11] <sney> davis: do you have fontconfig installed?
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36[00:15:30] <davis> sney: the specific error is a bunch of messages which are of this form:
37[00:15:32] <davis> Fontconfig error: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/90-synthetic.conf", line 6: invalid attribute 'version'
38[00:15:53] <davis> so, the file is there, but the tool has a problem reading it.
39[00:15:54] <JC_Denton> sney: yep, manually added raid and what not. i got to the point where i could see md/0 in grub rescue, but "cryptomount md/0" would return blank vs. prompting for a passphrase.
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46[00:16:51] <sney> davis: I'm assuming the tool you're trying to use is a 3rd party thing? it may rely on an older version of fontconfig and that's the source of the problem. you should probably check the tool's manual/support page/etc
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49[00:17:36] <dob1> JC_Denton, I found only ntopng on debian and it wants to install a lot of packages. I found darkstat as alternative
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51[00:18:03] <davis> sney: it most likey is an old tool. its the pycom firmware update tool. replaced-url
52[00:18:11] <JC_Denton> dob1: cool. i'll have to keep that one in mind. depending on your use case, you can also use iptables as a quick and dirty stat gatherer.
84[00:35:47] <sney> JC_Denton: I don't know enough about luks2 to tell you one way or another. I think cryptsetup has a mailing list you could ask though, or check their archives to see if anyone else has already solved this in the past
85[00:36:36] <JC_Denton> sney: thanks, i'll take a look there
86[00:36:43] <davis> sney: thanks. I've updated the forum to give the info you gave me.
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91[00:38:12] <sney> bolovanos: I don't know why you're looking for me specifically, but ok. that paste doesn't say much. try running 'apt-get clean' and then try to install it again.
96[00:40:29] <bolovanos> sney, some channel member said you might know more :). Yes that paste does not say much. I was searching for some more info, but it said whatyou say clean and than install. I was hoping for some more debug information that I was unable to get from /var/logs... and if there is none than reinstall it from scratch :/
97[00:41:36] <sney> it looks like it's having trouble with the package. apt-get clean will delete the deb from the disk. then when you 'apt install mariadb-server-10.1' it will be forced to re-download the deb from the package mirror
98[00:41:54] <sney> if you have any existing databases, this won't affect them at all
111[00:51:01] <bolovanos> sney, ad apt-get clean - there is no deb file in /var/cache/apt/archives/, but doing apt install -f will start mariadb config ...
112[00:51:51] <bolovanos> sney, ad existing db - yes I do have existing db which I would like to preserve without excess hassle with configuring etc..
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117[00:55:04] <bolovanos> sney, where else than /var/log/apt/history.log can apt-get log, ie. "apt-get upgrade" is visible in log, but "apt-get clean" not
122[01:02:08] <somiaj> apt-get clean doesn't do anything vital, also if you use apt, by default it will delete the .debs after they are installed
123[01:02:35] <Polymorphism> I'm running a minecraft server on a debian VPS and I don't have many players but it gets killed (out of memory?) fairly regularly. How can I prevent this from happening? Again, I should have plenty of ram for the amount of players
172[01:30:15] <bolovanos> somiaj, ok what would you suggest to delete. I have found no Mariadb deb package 'find / -type f -name "*.deb"' but apt is trying to configure it -
174[01:32:23] <somiaj> bolovanos: dpkg -l | grep maria -- is the pakcage in the iU state, so it is installed but unconfigured -- you can remove the package or try to figure out why it is failing to configure (could mean manually editing the install scripts)
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177[01:32:48] <somiaj> bolovanos: once the package is installed, but unconfigured, if you want to get rid of it, you have to remove it. Though I don't know if removing it will help it configure better the next time you install it
178[01:33:02] <somiaj> bolovanos: I missed your original paste, what is the output of 'dpkg --configure -a'
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190[01:36:40] <somiaj> bolovanos: 'set -x' at the top line of the script and see if you can get any more output on why it is failing, and then try to fix it.
207[01:47:57] <somiaj> bolovanos: looks like it is having trouble altering some tables, here you need to be careful, but one thing you can do (if you know these tables don't need to be altered) is comment out or adjust the lines in the script so they work.
208[01:48:59] <somiaj> bolovanos: but now you have to decide how to fix this script to run correctly so it exists with exit code 0 to complete the configuration.
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210[01:49:23] <somiaj> bolovanos: If you bypass anythign the script does, you may have issues down the road, so of course be careful in your decisions (I don't know enough to give you better than generic advise on this manner)
245[02:20:27] <HighMemoryDaemon> I saw a cool site several days ago that let you browse Debian packages online and see all the versions in the difference repos side-by-side. It wasn't packages.debian.org. Could've been a third-party site. Anyone have a clue of what I'm referring to?
267[02:46:57] <qid|ydl> is there any way to examine a system backup to tell what the list of installed packages was? I had a server with an HD failure that needed replacement anyway, so I'm trying to examine the backup data without turning it into a running system
270[02:51:00] <qid|ydl> I'm not sure what dpkg's internal data structure is or where it's located, all the documentation I've found so far is just for the command-line utility
284[03:01:15] <somiaj> qid|ydl: you can look at /var/lib/dpkg/status and see what packages were 'installed' from there, might need a script to parse it
308[03:13:00] <roylaprattep> somiaj: i need to add the bulleyes repo too?
309[03:13:03] <somiaj> roylaprattep: no
310[03:13:07] <dvs> no
311[03:13:34] <roylaprattep> so there is an error?
312[03:13:49] <somiaj> roylaprattep: that package is just broken in backports, it could be we are waiting for the dependency to be added to backports, it could be the matainer doesn't know about this. I'm unsure where to look for bugs for backported packages
327[03:23:23] <qid|ydl> somiaj: yeah I have basically the whole file system backed up
328[03:24:39] <qid|ydl> I think the --admindir option on dpkg-query does what I'm looking for, I tried it explicitly without root to make sure it wouldn't break my running system and it seems to let you interact with a different database
329[03:26:31] <dvs> roylaprattep, you send an email to 958180@bugs.debian.org
330[03:26:47] <dvs> roylaprattep, or click on the reply link on the bug page.
331[03:26:51] <karlpinc> roylaprattep: You can just email the bug report system. ###@bugs.debian.org
332[03:27:38] <roylaprattep> dvs: it is mark as resolved, so i guess it will not be solved.
334[03:28:20] <somiaj> roylaprattep: it can take a few days for the upload to make it to the servers (if the resolve is they have uploaded the dependency)
335[03:28:23] <dvs> roylaprattep, oh, it was fixed today. I guess we have to wait for a build.
336[03:29:10] <roylaprattep> 1 Serious (policy violations or makes package unfit for release)
371[04:19:11] <BalooRJ> I can't for the life of me figure out how to mount the samba server to access the Shield network storage from Debian.
372[04:19:49] <BalooRJ> every time I attempt to mount the server share, I get "mount error(2): No such file or directory" I created a directory and am using that directory to attempt to mount the share
373[04:19:55] <roylaprattep> mount -t cifs //ip_address>/<export_share> /mnt/<local_share>
374[04:22:24] <BalooRJ> when I do mount -t cifs I get mount: bad usage
375[04:23:15] <BalooRJ> I am attempting to use: mount -t cifs -o username=$username,password=$password,vers=1.0 //$ipaddress /mnt/shield
379[04:23:48] <roylaprattep> you are missing the share itslef
380[04:23:52] <roylaprattep> itself
381[04:23:54] <roylaprattep> an ip is not a share
382[04:24:15] <BalooRJ> sorry, forgot the rest
383[04:24:24] <BalooRJ> I am attempting to use: mount -t cifs -o username=$username,password=$password,vers=1.0 //$ipaddress/storage/NVIDIA_Shield /mnt/shield
384[04:24:47] <BalooRJ> could it be then that my share is mislabelled? I wonder if I am using the wrong folders
385[04:24:48] <roylaprattep> can you access it directly?
386[04:26:04] <roylaprattep> //$ipaddress/storage/NVIDIA_Shield is working in a file commander?
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390[04:28:14] <BalooRJ> I'm getting the credentials and IP from the shield itself...it is SMB1 if that makes a difference
391[04:28:24] <BalooRJ> but if I type that into thunar I can't access
392[04:29:07] <BalooRJ> Is there a way I can ping the samba share in Debian?
393[04:29:25] <hmw[at]> I am trying to set up a Debian 10.3 server for root login via public key, but sshd keeps asking me for a password. I set permit_root_login yes, coppied my key with ssh-copyid, set a password on the root account, to no avail. I am trying to log in from an Arch box. What else can I check?
394[04:30:30] <hmw[at]> BalooRJ: Maybe smbtree can help you?
475[05:01:25] <BalooRJ> What would be the best way to fix this? Should I remove the offending latest kernel? Or is there some way I can find out the logs of the issue that is making the latest kernel freeze? Thanks for all help
491[05:07:39] <sufy> lwp it works on regular buster stable, the ubuntu beta seemed to have a similar issue, i am running a preinstalled audio distro of debian for music production called avlinux that has an rt kernel
493[05:09:19] <somiaj> sufy: are you actually running debian, avlinux sounds like a derivative, and isn't debian
494[05:09:35] <somiaj> !avlinux
495[05:09:36] <dpkg> AV Linux (formerly A/V Linux) is a 32-bit Live DVD distribution based on Debian <squeeze> (as of version 6). It specializes in multimedia content creation using realtime-patched kernels. AV Linux is not supported in #debian. Support forum: replaced-url
521[05:32:36] <BalooRJ> My 5.5.0.1 kernel was freezing on boot, and I could not view the journal in safe mode on that kernel. So I went into the older kernel 4.19 and purged the newer kernel. Is there anything else i should do to make sure my system is stable at this point?
529[05:35:09] <somiaj> sufy: we can't fully support snap software, but is this on debian or avlinux? I kinda wish there was a .deb based support channel, but there is ##linux too
530[05:35:39] <somiaj> BalooRJ: you can't be stable if you are running testing (by debian's definition). Anyways make sure you keep up to date with testing, and are running the current software from testing. Support is in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
534[05:36:27] <somiaj> BalooRJ: You might want to see if the kernel from sid causes you the same problems as the testing kernel (Sid's kernel is slightly newer). If it is freezing your system, tracking down what the problem is and flining a bug report can help
535[05:36:57] <BalooRJ> somia: I performed an install of Debian Buster today, then upgraded it to Debian Testing later in the day. Thank you, I will try that
541[05:40:14] <somiaj> klys: it would be unoffical so have two hases on freenode. Name wouldn't be that important, maybe ##debian-based, though unsure if anyone wants to create/manage such a community.
542[05:41:25] <klys> somiaj, ok you can join one of those, I'm in all of them.
544[05:44:21] <annadane> still, due to specialization it'd still probably be better in that case to just ask the actual "upstream" support channel
545[05:44:27] <annadane> but whatever
546[05:44:42] <klys> yeah that can be a rule there
547[05:45:01] <somiaj> I was more pointing out in general, not this case, that due to the number of based on debian with small irc support communities, maybe a central one similar to ##linux could exist.
548[05:45:26] <somiaj> because often we point people to places that is hard to get actual help.
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550[05:46:13] <joepublic> *people often choose obscure distributions without vibrant help communities and then come ask about it
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552[05:46:52] <klys> so yeah, if I see someone i recognize join, i'll op them.
595[06:40:37] <inflex> I have found a bug and created a fix for a problem I was encountering in the cups package; what is the best way to submit this fix? I do have an account on replaced-url
607[06:50:46] <somiaj> inflex: usually submit the bug and the patch to a bug report against the packages on bugs.debian.org, and the matainer will apply the patch (also if running stable check that it wasn't already fixed in testing/sid)
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611[06:55:33] <inflex> Hello somiaj; just read CONTRIBUTING.md on the debian salsa site, and see that they like me to submit it via the github cups repo, so doing that now
612[06:55:40] <inflex> thank you though for your response.
616[06:57:58] <somiaj> Yea, some places do prefer up submit upstream bugs to upstream directly, though if unsure where to submit bugs/fixes for debian packages, bugs.debian.org works, and matainers forward them upstream if appliciable.
654[07:36:12] <andre144k> hi all, maybe someone knows for rsync how to define an exclude-filter to disable all files/folders which include "foobar" in full pathname ?
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768[10:02:03] <ViperXL75> good morning. I've performed an update on Debian from Stretch to Buster. The good news is that "hostnamectl" shows "Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)". The bad news is that during upgrading it said that errors were encountered. It showed 3 packages referring to Java and then wrote "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)".
774[10:04:33] <ViperXL75> After that i had to manually and forcefuly reboot it. As in turn off the power and turn it back on. Now I'm able to interact with it via ssh->putty and i do see processes running to perform SMB shares and other things that gets started with "crontab+e". But I'm unable to aproach the machine from the TV (HDMI). And since I'm unable to aproach it via VNC, i get a feeling that it isn't loading the GUI part of Debian. How can i check
791[10:19:09] <jaami> i am in big trouble. used 2 different USBs to make them bootable for 3 different OS but everytime i see same some disk corruption error.
792[10:19:46] <jaami> i am on Elementary OS which i installed after many failed attempts to install debian
793[10:19:52] <themill> how exactly are you copying the images?
794[10:20:11] <themill> (dd just copies bytes around and a newer version of dd won't do that any better)
798[10:20:39] <jaami> i am using dd command after making new partition and formatted with different systems but nothing worked. let me paste the command
800[10:21:03] <themill> if you're working with partitions on the usb stick you are doing it wron
801[10:21:05] <themill> g
802[10:21:52] <kreyren> What is the proper way to get python for development on debian stable?
803[10:21:54] <jaami> i was making partitions on USBs but later i decided to keep just one partition just to go through the installation of OS
804[10:22:06] <kreyren> apt install -y python3 python seems to cause a conflicts
805[10:22:14] <themill> jaami: there should be no partitions involved
806[10:22:19] <jaami> here is the dd command which i took from internet. quite simple dd bs=4M if=/media/tofawn/EEEEE/iso/Solus-4.1-GNOME.iso of=/dev/sdb status=progress oflag=sync
807[10:22:34] <themill> kreyren: you can install both the python3 and python packages without any issue
808[10:22:57] <kreyren> themill, checking
809[10:23:28] <kreyren> correction seems that the backend is using apt install -y python3 python3-pip python python-pip pylint
810[10:23:44] <kreyren> where the pip seems to cause the issue
811[10:24:10] <kreyren> is that even all required for python development?
812[10:24:42] <themill> kreyren: that should also complete without issues; whether it's needed or not depends entirely on what you're trying to do
813[10:25:13] <kreyren> themill, this is setting up an environment for python development assuming usage of linux in browser environment for text editor
814[10:25:23] <kreyren> (gitpod.io, i am refactoring their linux backend)
832[10:31:55] <themill> kreyren: there is no way of installing debian packages that would satisfy absolutely every possible desire for a python package for every possible developer. You can take a reasonable tilt at some 'normal' ones I guess. Or offer a few sets. Or work the project inside a venv so that the user can install things at runtime
835[10:33:01] <kreyren> themill, on paludis (Exherbo Linux) it handles it through set and creative symlinking.. if this is not possible on debian then i need the best possible solution
836[10:33:04] <ANub> Hello, I've a query. Can we compile a package (lets say on a test machine) from source code and then make it available as an update for our own APT respository ??
837[10:33:17] <ANub> I know, how to create our own repositories but I am not sure how to update an installed package from a source.
838[10:33:26] <kreyren> themill, meaning to get general purpose python
839[10:34:14] <themill> kreyren: Exherbo still isn't making absolutely every python module available, just a set of common ones
848[10:37:10] <themill> So yes, you could just install every single python3-.* package if you liked, but I don't think anyone will thank you for that approach. If I wanted a disk full of packages I didn't want, I'd use anaconda.
849[10:38:18] <kreyren> themill, it's running on GKE with 300GB SSD per workspace
850[10:38:32] <kreyren> and docker with caching so deploy is practically instant
920[11:27:40] <Antoine-> Hello, if I want to get a list of all installed packages so that I can reinstall them on a new machine, how would I do that?
921[11:28:45] <Antoine-> Should I generate a list of packages with dpkg-query then feed that list to apt?
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923[11:29:13] <Antoine-> Then I'm afraid all packages would be flaged as installed manually so autoremove would only ever remove one package at a time, wouldn't it?
967[12:06:08] <ViperXL75> The thing is. I'm trying to solve the puzzle of why "reboot" isn't working. Then i found out that if i execute /sbin/reboot it works fine. So i kinda assumed that it should be included in the path
968[12:06:10] <jvava> Just now I install odio wih snap, but can not start it, after type return key, it exit without saying anything. please help.
993[12:37:05] <dpkg> In buster, su no longer overrides PATH by default, requiring that you use "su -" or "su -l" for login shells (which is not really a new thing at all...). To approximate the previous behaviour, put "ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes" in /etc/login.defs. See replaced-url
1027[13:00:53] <keda> do you mean i have to install new debian?
1028[13:01:15] <EdePopede> !buster
1029[13:01:15] <dpkg> Buster is the codename for the current <stable> release, Debian 10, released 2019-07-06. "Buster" is Andy's pet Dachshund in Toy Story, see replaced-url
1030[13:01:21] <EdePopede> it's already out for a while
1037[13:02:27] <keda> can i just leave the debian 9 but install new module for libargon2
1038[13:02:46] <EdePopede> keda: debian isn't one of the releases grabbing the newest version from upstream before they are even dry. so you may even want to have stable instead of oldstable usually
1039[13:03:31] <keda> ooo thats mean i have to del everything and upgrade debian right
1040[13:03:55] <EdePopede> keda: see the link, just found it. and then you also may be able to add stable to your sources but use it with low priority for all but this package. but you may get dependency problems, and i've never done it, so don't really take my word for it.
1041[13:04:14] <EdePopede> keda: no. you can do an inplace upgrade
1042[13:04:19] <EdePopede> !stretch->buster
1043[13:04:24] <EdePopede> meh?
1044[13:04:41] <EdePopede> !stretch->buster
1045[13:04:44] <dvs> !release notes
1046[13:04:44] <dpkg> The release notes for Debian 10 "Buster" are at replaced-url
1049[13:05:14] <keda> can i reinstall without del my current services running
1050[13:05:44] <EdePopede> keda: you may want your /home on its own partition anyway. usually this should be the only thing you want to keep, also web server stuff you may have.
1083[13:53:16] <stralex> Hello here, trying to remember irc and find someone to help me create a start up service. I really I don't know why I find it so difficult
1084[13:53:39] <abrotman> a start up service?
1085[13:53:49] <abrotman> to start a daemon? Which distro are you using?
1095[13:59:25] <jaami_> ISO was compressed with squashfs-tools with zstd compression as default. ISO was corrupt. can someone give me non-free iso url that wont ask cd-rom drivers.
1096[14:00:04] <jaami_> i am back to debian after wasting a lot of time trying different flavors
1097[14:01:29] <jaami_> ii need non free debian iso that will work
1109[14:07:03] <fluxwave> Shouldn't matter as long as you have a working network connection, only difference is how much software is preloaded onto the install media
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1116[14:11:53] <fluxwave> Yup, that image should work. If you still have driver issues with that one, I'd suggest testing with a *buntu or something like Manjaro to see if your hardware needs a more recent kernel
1157[14:57:51] <SanchoPensa> I can't seem to get my skypelinux to recognize any what so ever microphone, and i have an urgent call in exactly 13 minutes. Help keenly appreciated!
1202[15:13:36] <brutser> when i try to install some python modules, i get the error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lcrypto < what do i need to do to correct this?
1254[16:00:15] <jaami> debian setup on usb started but again looking for cd-rom. i cannot get rid of that thing. how to avoid cd-rom check and its drivers?
1255[16:00:47] <jaami> my usb drive have 1 partition only.
1298[16:18:21] <jaami> Graphic Install was selected from debian inslall menu. Next, Language -> location -> Keyboard were selected. And right after keyboard debian setup auto check cd-rom and shows error of missing drivers
1299[16:18:34] <lwp> jaami, you said 1 partition on that usb drive. Is that where you put the installer ? How did you write the installer to there ? What commands?
1300[16:18:46] <epsilon> ok then the install can't find the disk
1312[16:21:52] <dpkg> SolusOS is a Linux distribution based on Debian <stable>. It is not supported in #debian, please see replaced-url
1313[16:21:54] <epsilon> you have an USB Media with installer on it, and another disk to actually install debian, right?
1314[16:22:36] <jaami> Yes, i am sure of=/dev/sdb and not /dev/sdb1
1315[16:23:39] <jaami> sorry, about Solus , i used many dd commands for different ISOs. the one i pasted here is not he last one i executed for debian firmware
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1317[16:24:01] <greycat> Since it's not a Debian installer image, we do not KNOW how to use it. Ask #solus. They should know.
1318[16:24:12] <jaami> Yes, 1 usb for debian setup andwant to install on other USB.
1319[16:24:38] <miskatonic> 200MB are not sufficient for GNOME, at least the current versions of gnome
1332[16:35:12] <jaami> during debian setup i clicked on screenshot button and the image was saved in /var/log . can you tell me where is that folder on the usb?
1360[16:54:19] <sponix2ipfw> greycat: manpage for that one doesn't do much for me. I end up just googling an online example for whatever intervals I need lol
1398[17:15:29] <somiaj> I once spent two days debugging a systemd unit that wouldn't work, only to discover you have to run daemon-reload after each change....
1409[17:19:39] <epsilon> I already gave up about systemd and debugging start dependencies regarding network, I have cronjobs to check if interfaces/daemons came up after boot and starts if necessary
1452[17:37:14] <plantroon> while I see that Debian 10 switched to Netfilter and away from iptables interfaces, is there an equivalent to ebtables in netfilter or will the current ebtables implementation continue to work indefinitely?
1552[18:24:55] <somiaj> ViperXL75: that really doesn't help us. Why can you not login, what happens, could it be the xorg session isn't working, but you are actually logging in.
1553[18:25:04] <somiaj> ViperXL75: often times it is best to debug xorg issues from the command line with startx.
1559[18:29:14] <glow8> So I'm trying to configure a Host-only network between my computer and virtualbox. I've configured the static IP in /etc/network/interfaces, and when I run an arp-scan in my computer the IP appears. But if I try to ping it, no response is received. Any help?
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1564[18:29:58] <greycat> keda: the stretch (Debian 9) version of that package is version 0~20160821-1+b1 as judd told us. Just "apt-get install libargon2-0" gets you that. The buster (0~20171227-0.2) version is for Debian 10. It won't work on Debian 9.
1568[18:32:12] <glow8> I created a host-only network called vboxnet on 192.168.56.1, and added it to the VM, yes.
1569[18:32:23] <glow8> vboxnet0, sorry
1570[18:33:11] <jehorn> I do testing for Debian bullseye and I know I had to change the VM network so I could connect to it externally from my tablet. I did host-only and it just worked.
1571[18:33:36] <glow8> It's also attached to a NAT for internet connection, but I doubt that's the issue :/
1572[18:33:37] <ViperXL75> The Debian10 starts up and i can SSH into it via another machine.
1573[18:34:08] <glow8> jehorn: so I remove the network and add it again, or what exactly did you do?
1574[18:34:23] <ViperXL75> But on the monitor of the machine itself ( it is the CTRL+ALT+F1) i see the GUI which shows me the username.
1575[18:34:30] <ViperXL75> I click on that username, it asks me for a password.
1576[18:34:57] <ViperXL75> When i type the password the screen will go dark as if it accepted it, but jumps right back to the login screen showing the Username to click
1577[18:35:23] <somiaj> ViperXL75: sounds like the session is failing, what DE do you use?
1578[18:35:34] <somiaj> ViperXL75: I whould hit ctrl-alt-f2 and try to run 'startx', and see if you get any useful errors
1580[18:35:39] <ViperXL75> "DE" u mean Debian version? Debian 10 stretch
1581[18:35:47] <miskatonic> we still do noot know which display manager viper is using
1582[18:35:49] <somiaj> (Though I guess if using wayland this won't help)
1583[18:36:00] <ViperXL75> how do i find out my display manager?
1584[18:36:02] <somiaj> ViperXL75: NO I mean desktop enviorment, gnome, kde, lxde, or some simple windowmanager, etc
1585[18:36:19] <jehorn> glow8: I just looked at my settings, I was mistaken. I did bridge network adapter, that allowed external access to the VM. I can VNC from my tablet or do RDP.
1586[18:36:21] <ViperXL75> ehh... how do i see that?
1587[18:36:53] <jhutchins> ViperXL75: One way would be to ask whoever installed Debian on this what choices they made during the install.
1588[18:36:53] <greycat> ViperXL75: you can start with echo "$XDG_SESSION_TYPE"
1589[18:37:02] <somiaj> ViperXL75: If you don't know and run debian defaults my guess is gnome and you have an issue with waylend, on your display manger do you see an otption to select other sessions?
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1591[18:37:06] <glow8> jehorn: that sucks, I need a host-only network specifically :(
1592[18:37:11] <somiaj> ViperXL75: might be hiding under some settings tool.
1593[18:37:54] <ViperXL75> i went to /etc/X11/default-display-manager and i see it pointing to /usr/sbin/gdm3
1594[18:38:22] <somiaj> ViperXL75: so gnome, anyways, go look at the possible settings for which session you use, select the xorg (non wayland) session and try to login
1598[18:39:03] <jehorn> Has anyone else had issues in 10 where the root user path is not set correctly?
1599[18:39:16] <greycat> !buster su
1600[18:39:16] <dpkg> In buster, su no longer overrides PATH by default, requiring that you use "su -" or "su -l" for login shells (which is not really a new thing at all...). To approximate the previous behaviour, put "ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes" in /etc/login.defs. See replaced-url
1610[18:43:10] <somiaj> ViperXL75: on your display manager (graphical login) you should have a settings button, there should be a 'sessions' setting where you can select different sessions.
1616[18:46:50] <jehorn> dpkg: Thanks, I don't know how I missed that. I'm usually good at checking docs, my bad lol
1617[18:46:50] <dpkg> jehorn: no worries
1618[18:47:17] <ViperXL75> strange. The only things i can find to click on is the Accessibility button (looks like a little man in a circle), Network icon, Sound icon, Power icon,
1655[19:04:24] <claudiu[e]> hi! dows anyone know how to make browser use gpu for decoding videos (vp9)?
1656[19:04:41] <somiaj> miskatonic: more likey it might be due to missing firmware on the graphics card or some other gpu module issue than waylend itself.
1697[19:23:25] <tecneeq> I have taken a disk (with LVM) out of my USB-enclosure and put it into my computer. Sadly, now all blocks are shifted by one, because the USB-enclosure decided to keep the first 512bytes filled with zeros to itself.
1698[19:23:34] <ViperXL75> just like that? 0_o
1699[19:24:12] <tecneeq> Any idea how to get out of this without deleting it all?
1700[19:25:36] <tecneeq> Is there maybe a way to create a "view" for /dev/sdb that skips the first block?
1701[19:26:20] * ViperXL75 is clueless to tecneeq question.
1702[19:26:23] <ViperXL75> :(
1703[19:26:33] <tecneeq> Well, let's make it clear then:
1704[19:26:34] <ChrisH> tecneeq: What is your goal? Read the content once? continue to use the Disk?
1713[19:29:18] <tecneeq> i need a way to create a view of the device where the first 512bytes are skipped, sadly, i haven't found the right command yet ;-)
1720[19:31:37] <tecneeq> ChrisH: well, i guess continue to use the disks, because we are talking about 8x 8TB here. Would be a nightmare to move all of those files.
1721[19:31:46] <ViperXL75> now my final question for tonight. How do i stop Debian10 from jumping into standby/hibernate/sleep? I want the thing to keep running 24/7 without auto-shutting-down
1722[19:32:08] <tecneeq> ViperXL75: /etc/systemd/system.conf i think?
1727[19:33:47] <tecneeq> i too have a notebook-server ;-)
1728[19:33:49] <ChrisH> tecneeq: puh. loopback mount? recreate the partition table in correct locations? Never did any of those things. Could you create a new small disk with test data in yout USB enclosure?
1729[19:34:12] <Plasmoduck> When I SSH into a box, how do I stop that boxes shell color theme showing on my terminal and use my terminals theme? My raspberry pi has a nice color theme for it I like and my computer has its own them, I want them to both keep their themes, but only show my local theme when I ssh to the pi. stop terminal using remote color theme ssh use local color theme
1740[19:37:14] <tecneeq> losetup works, can mount my stuff.
1741[19:37:55] <HighMemoryDaemon> Loving SID :) Is there such a way to use a longterm kernel in SID? For example in Arch, you'd go with the linux-lts package.
1742[19:39:41] <ws2k3> i moved ti kernel 4.19 and suddenly iptables is kinda broken i guess ip6tables v1.8.2 (nf_tables): CHAIN_ADD failed (No such file or directory): chain INPUT
1765[19:48:45] <ws2k3> im in kernel 4.19 but ip6tables is not working anymore ip6tables v1.8.2 (nf_tables): CHAIN_ADD failed (No such file or directory): chain INPUT what can i do about this?
1775[19:52:08] <ViperXL75> this is an old HD-ready plasma TV i have. And each time i put a new linux installation, the damn thing fools Linux to do 720p. But when Linux does that, the TV can't see the picture. You have to force 1080p down it's throat for it to display something. Lol
1776[19:52:14] <tecneeq> ViperXL75: i got it working
1777[19:52:24] <ViperXL75> oh?
1778[19:52:43] <tecneeq> you need to first allow cloents to access the display, from within: xhost +
1779[19:53:08] <tecneeq> then from the "outside": export DISPLAY=:0.0 ; xrandr
1781[19:53:43] <tecneeq> there is a better way for xhost +, but i never learned it ;)
1782[19:53:44] <annadane> HighMemoryDaemon, specifically, kernel.org has different branches, so you can always look for the one that says "longterm" and compile that
1783[19:53:53] <annadane> don't have to use debian's
1784[19:54:10] <sney> the xhost + method is considered by many to be a security hole, but if this computer never leaves your house it's not a big deal.
1785[19:54:36] <ViperXL75> oh it's not going to leave my house. I'm just slightly puzzled on how to achieve what tecneeq said
1786[19:54:44] <ViperXL75> allow clients to access the display
1798[19:55:46] <tecneeq> you have to type it from within the session
1799[19:56:18] <ViperXL75> oh locally
1800[19:56:20] <ViperXL75> xD
1801[19:56:21] <tecneeq> you could use Gnomes autostart, put a script there that does it
1802[19:56:32] <tecneeq> or use .xinitrc
1803[19:56:32] <ViperXL75> ah
1804[19:56:49] <sney> this is the xorg.conf option. put this in a file called 20-resolution.conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ and it should force that resolution. replaced-url
1805[19:57:09] <greycat> !xhost
1806[19:57:10] <dpkg> xhost is EVIL! There are so many other ways of getting remote X apps to work that xhost should never be needed. For a more sensible approach, use SSH X11 forwarding, ask me about <sshx>. Also see <mit-magic-cookie>, replaced-url
1807[19:57:16] <sney> ah, there we are.
1808[19:57:32] <ViperXL75> hahaha
1809[19:57:43] <ViperXL75> diving into the xorg.conf
1810[19:57:48] <tecneeq> sney: that is what i would consider the clean solution
1812[19:58:32] <ViperXL75> i'm just picking the one that means i dont have to go dive behind my TV to pull the HDMI out and input it into my tiny monitor.
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1814[20:00:05] <tecneeq> or use xrandr directly in that mentioned autostart script?
1815[20:00:29] <tecneeq> ~/config/autostart/ or so? Not sure where gnome keeps it hidden.
1816[20:00:35] <miskatonic> aren't hardware debianers hostile to .xinitrc?
1828[20:03:14] <ViperXL75> tried creating 20-resolution.conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/. But it didn't help. THe computer still shows no output to TV. But i think i need to call it the day. :(
1829[20:03:37] <ViperXL75> I will reconnect the cable back to the tiny monitor tomorrow to troubleshoot further
1830[20:03:47] <sney> if you look at the X log it will tell you why
1831[20:03:50] <ViperXL75> thanks a LOT though so far. I've had a shitload of headaches resolved.
1832[20:04:01] <tecneeq> :-)
1833[20:04:03] <ViperXL75> sney: tomorrow i shall.
1834[20:04:21] <ViperXL75> I started this morning with "doing a debian update on-the-fly" towards debian10.
1845[20:06:28] <ViperXL75> and go back at it. For tonight i'll just crawl to bed. My backpain is killing me after bending all over the TV and behind the computer. :S
1852[20:11:40] <tecneeq> what would be a simple way to left-shift blocks on a hard disk, block 1 needs to be copied to block 0, then block 2 needs to be copied to block 1, ad infinitum
1865[20:20:08] <Plasmoduck> greycat, it's just a python script that generates system color themes based on wallpaper. But its really a simple question. If someone modifies terminal shell color scheme, how do I stop that showing over ssh
1868[20:21:13] <Plasmoduck> Im sure you've seen everyone on Reddit using it
1869[20:21:19] <greycat> how is "it's a thing you've never heard of and it's written in python and you should know how to customize it" a simple question
1870[20:21:29] <greycat> wut
1871[20:21:33] <Plasmoduck> Not the program, the shell
1872[20:21:40] <greycat> IT IS NOT A FUCKING SHELL
1873[20:21:48] <Plasmoduck> Do you know how to set shell color schemes duh?
1874[20:21:50] <greycat> IT IS SOME WEIRD ASS FUCKING THING YOU ARE USING
1893[20:29:37] <electroreactive> Hi! I am new and not really a linux user. I'm looking for an Android distro, and found what I need, but the guy who has it isn't sharing his full source, only a patch to debian buster and I'm not even sure if it contains the source to the APK with the kernel hooks.
1894[20:29:55] <electroreactive> *android/linux based on debian
1897[20:32:25] <lwp> electroreactive, all the source code for debian is freely available, if that is what you are asking
1898[20:32:57] <petn-randall> electroreactive: Android distros are AOSP, lineage OS, /e/ Os and others. Do you want to install a Debian userspace on your Android device?
1899[20:32:58] <electroreactive> Possibly not from this one person (it looks like he released a patch and intentionally omitted some, I need some help checking into that.
1912[20:38:10] <cast4dx> lightdm autologin option works only sometimes, randomly just doesn't login the indicated automatically. how can i debug this problem?
1913[20:38:34] <lwp> electroreactive, sorry, I'm too old to know what APK is
1918[20:39:16] <greycat> me three... I'm guessing the K is Kit
1919[20:39:24] <electroreactive> Android's native application format. It's possible to install a debian chroot on android.
1920[20:40:24] <petn-randall> electroreactive: Is that what you're trying to do, though?
1921[20:41:00] <electroreactive> Actually, I plan to ask a developer to move the kernel hooks to userland to allow it to be installed and used without root.
1928[20:43:15] <electroreactive> Only the hooks, it would be a reworking of how X works on that system.
1929[20:43:40] <electroreactive> It would only affect graphics output.
1930[20:44:41] <electroreactive> volkspc.org uses a debian derived installation and has an XFCE/MicroXWin and should be subject to the GPL due to either the kernel hooks or derivation from XFCE. So the source code to the apk should be there. However, he only offers a patch and a link to the debian buster repository.
1941[20:49:24] <lwp> electroreactive, I'm not sure what you are asking us. does this guy's patch add the APK thing onto regular debian source ? Or is there some secret part of it too ?
1942[20:50:02] <electroreactive> That's what I'm trying to find out. I need to know if the patch is there or if he's violating the GPL and I need to go the 'long way' to get the patch.
1943[20:50:02] <greycat> !free
1944[20:50:03] <dpkg> free is probably defined in English with many different meanings of which only one refers to cost. Easier in French, or 'free beer' = gratuit / 'free speech' = libre, or replaced-url
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1946[20:51:22] <lwp> Still confused. you said "he only offers a patch and a link to the debian buster repository." so the patch is available, you can look at it ?
1948[20:52:25] <lwp> (my old-fashioned understanding of "patch" means a little bit of source code)
1949[20:52:29] <electroreactive> Yes, however, the source for the APK could be in the debian buster repository so I need to confirm that it isn't there as well.
1951[20:52:57] <\n3p\> the recent update of grub in sid borked my system :(
1952[20:53:10] <electroreactive> ... He's basically trying to make his own OS fork, so 'little bit' is subjective.
1953[20:53:24] <lwp> electroreactive, do you know a name for this APK. It is very easy to search debian. see replaced-url
1954[20:54:49] <electroreactive> Thanks, just searched for 'APK', was prepared to go through several hundred pages, but there were only 5 results.
1955[20:54:51] <tecneeq> APK is the Android package managers default file ending. The package googlemaps.apk installs GoogleMaps[TM](R)
1956[20:56:36] <tecneeq> How to shift data 512 bytes to the left, on disk: dd if=/dev/sdk of=/dev/sdk bs=512 conv=notrunc iflag=fullblock skip=1
1957[20:56:40] <tecneeq> tested with a file
1958[20:56:53] <petn-randall> electroreactive: Since none of the source packages in Debian generate APKs, I'm going to assume that there's at least something missing there.
1959[20:56:58] <tecneeq> am scared to do it to my disk.
1961[20:58:19] <electroreactive> I also searched for XFCE, no result. Going to search Xwin, Xfree86, and Xwindows, if there are any other keywords anyone can recommend feel free to PM me if anyone has a suggestion to avoid spam, I am prepared to go through each one manually..
1970[21:01:05] <electroreactive> I know that XFCE is a windows manager, Xwindows, Xfree86, X11 and other X.org references refer to derivatives of the Xwindows system. I'm just looking for the package to compile the android version.
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2007[21:11:03] <electroreactive> It's the only source I was provided with, that and patches. So if the code isn't there, and isn't in the patches, and it's GPL-ed... well...
2019[21:19:38] <Ooze> Hi. I'm trying to upgrade my weechat installation. I had previously installed weechat from the repo. I've run 'apt-get remove weechat', but it still doesn't seem to fully uninstall. 'which weechat' shows leftovers in /usr/local/bin/wechat
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2021[21:20:04] <Ooze> Is purge necessary for what i'm trying to do?
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2031[21:22:45] <otyugh> I wonder, If i want to list all the reverse-dependance from a package from a distribution I don't have installed here (it'd be stretch), how can I do that ?
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2038[21:23:46] <electroreactive> It's a very small file. Cairofixes, gdk2/3/4fixes, startupnotification, ttynull, and for XFWM4 it seems to have a keyboard patch... that's it.
2045[21:26:15] <greycat> out of the things you named, xfwm4 is probably the easiest starting point, because it's an easily recognizable single *thing* that you can download the source code for, apply the patch to, and build, assuming you have the build environment for this weird debdroid hybrid thing
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2050[21:29:05] <electroreactive> It's very small and simple, I just looked through it, maybe he changed the keymapping to accomodate missing keys, but nothing bigger, and it's definitely looking like a GPL violation. Thanks guys, I feel confident enough to contact the FSF now.
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2067[21:36:58] <tecneeq> Here is a strong word for Seagates USB-enclosure division: fsck you! Why skip the first block of the harddisk anyway? And why did you skip a 512b block instead of the 4096b block that is you physical block size?
2079[21:42:55] <tecneeq> It was in 8 simple USB enclosures. But the disks didn't spin down nor could i smart them. So i bought two 4x usb enclosures (jbod).
2082[21:43:42] <tecneeq> sadly, the original enclosures hid the first 512b block of the disk, so that the data was offset by one block on the "good" controller
2093[21:50:26] <tecneeq> the idea is to have them connected to a RPi4 via USB3, use 2 disks for snapraid parity and serve the 48TB files via NFS/smb/dlna in my network. Hopefully the RPi is fast enough for streaming of 4k movies to the TV.
2115[22:09:53] <tecneeq> So it's the computer not starting to execute Grub then?
2116[22:09:53] <Diezel> some EFI stuff going sideways but how to get to debug that, I do not know
2117[22:10:19] <Diezel> tecneeq: yes, and only in a reboot, never if you do a full shutdown and startup
2118[22:10:42] <Diezel> I can live with it, but still annoying
2119[22:10:46] <tecneeq> You couldn't path the EFI anyway i think. I believe all you can hope for is a patch from the hardware vendor that fixes your problem.
2120[22:10:55] <tecneeq> s/path/patch
2121[22:11:43] <Diezel> it's an old X220 so it will get Coreboot at some point anyway
2122[22:12:20] <Diezel> I can live with it, but annoying that I have to do a full shutdown to get it to start
2198[22:59:37] <allizom> rpifan: get an usb dongle, or check out your laptop wifi card to see if you can swap that
2199[22:59:54] <sney> you'd basically have to build a custom installer. or, you could back up the kernel module that you already built, do your fresh install with CD1 or DVD1 instead of netinst, and copy the driver back
2203[23:00:25] <rpifan> so the driver would just need to copied from the lib directory and pasted?
2204[23:00:41] <sney> yeah the .ko file and anything matching in /lib/firmware are all the binary files you need
2205[23:00:42] <jjakob> couldn't you clone the kernel repo, checkout the specific tag that the installer uses, and build just that module, then copy the .so?
2209[23:01:27] <sney> the installer keeps its kernel in a ramdisk that it unpacks after booting. so it's not a simple matter of copying it into the iso
2210[23:01:37] <allizom> the driver would need to be built in the kernel or as a module
2211[23:01:40] <rpifan> well i have a working wifi card on that laptop now if its just copy and paste of the stuff in the firmware direcroy i can do that
2212[23:01:44] <sney> allizom: we've already been over that
2213[23:01:44] <jjakob> add it after it's boot it and modprobe it?
2215[23:02:41] <sney> rpifan: grep dmesg for firmware to find out exactly what file the module is loading. then you just need rtl8821ce.ko and that firmware file that it listed in the log
2260[23:16:31] <Ooze> Would someone kindly point me to some docs/best practice for cleaning up my /usr/local/bin/ ? I'm tempted to delete something, don't think it tied elsewhere
2265[23:17:16] <jhutchins> Ooze: You should use the package management system.
2266[23:17:24] <sney> /usr/local is generally outside the package manager though
2267[23:17:47] <Ooze> I must have installed weechat 2.3 manually? I'm just trying to remove the old version from /usr/local/bin so I may install a new one
2272[23:18:11] <sney> if you still have the source tarball it may have a 'make uninstall' or so
2273[23:18:21] <sney> is it possible that you used stow?
2274[23:18:25] <sney> !stow usage
2275[23:18:25] <dpkg> A quick intro to <stow>: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/stow/program-version && make && make install; cd /usr/local/stow/ ; stow program-version. Use stow -D to remove. See also <usrlocal>.
2276[23:18:31] <Ooze> Not the original. Should I go find it and try?
2281[23:19:21] <sney> anyway, there's nothing mission critical in /usr/local unless you put it there yourself. so don't worry too much about manually deleting stuff, just be aware that most applications will install something in bin and something in lib and something in etc and so on.
2309[23:37:55] <Ooze> I need libc6 >= 2.28. I'm trying to get it from this page. Can I download a .deb somewhere or is it best to add the experimental repo and pull it from there? Can I remove it afterward to ensure I'm not collecting other experimental packages?
2326[23:45:02] <greg_logan> I'm trying to use ansible to install a package, and I'm getting this error: Failed to update apt cache: E:The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/bzip2 could not be found.
2327[23:45:09] <greg_logan> apt-get via commandline works fine
2328[23:45:17] <greg_logan> that file is indeed not present