7[00:05:07] <Lope> ratrace, I got audio working. hard to say exactly what did it. I put some crap in the qemu config, but it's unlikely that did anything.
8[00:05:46] <Lope> then I saw some crap to put in a pulseaudio config in the VM in the x2go faq. I put that in. nothing seemed to happen. also did some manual command to load some pulseaudio module. no dice.
12[00:06:26] <Lope> then I read somewhere about a potential conflict. So I stopped the sddm service on in the vm, made sure pulseaudio wasn't running on it. then i logged in with x2go etc. no dice
13[00:07:12] <Lope> then I attached a usb sound device to the VM, and a little while after that I heard a pop out of the non-usb sound device. and then sound started working.
14[00:07:29] <Lope> Tomorrow I'll backtrack to see exactly what fixed the sound.
22[00:10:54] <mzajc> My system starts swapping programs out when I hit the 10 GB physical memory mark, even though I have 16 GB installed. What could be causing this?
39[00:24:15] <Lope> ratrace, so in /etc/libvirt/qemu.conf I set vnc_allow_host_audio = 1 (probably irrelevant since I'm not using VNC) also I set nographics_allow_host_audio = 1 which is sort of relevant but unlikely necessary. Since x2go pulls the audio out of the VM via the SSH connection and I think this option relates to the VM accessing pulseaudio on the host.
45[00:28:28] <Lope> ratrace, in conclusion, the x2go is a pretty perfect experience. you feel like you're working on the metal, aside from heavy tearing when you drag a window and of course increased CPU usage if you play a youtube video etc.
46[00:28:55] <Lope> So far I've not been able to get virt-viewer to work with multiple monitors. It is supposedly possible...
103[01:15:41] <wr> sney, when i use systemctl i don't see it here
104[01:16:47] <sney> there's no protonvpn package in debian so you may want to look at their support/manual or look in the package to see how it's set up
106[01:19:20] <sponix> sney: I have things in /etc/cron.d that are not marked as executable, but I swear I just had one of the jobs take off recently (zfs scrub)
107[01:19:54] <wr> sney, the service should be on systemctl either way, no?
114[01:22:17] <sney> sponix: stuff in cron.d isn't shell scripts so it doesn't need to be +x. zfsutils-linux does put a file there that calls for a scrub the "second sunday of every month"
115[01:22:34] <sney> shell scripts would go in cron.(hourly, monthly, etc)
120[01:26:24] <sponix> sney: oh, how about I just #comment out the line within it that has the cron line ?
121[01:26:29] <sney> I'm not sure what you think is the downside of a scrub once a month. or are you scheduling it separately?
122[01:26:33] <sney> yes you could comment it as well
123[01:26:34] <sponix> sney: would that work also ?
124[01:26:56] <sponix> sney: my rig just took a shit, and I am trying to blame it on something :P
125[01:26:57] <wr> sney, when i run systemctl start protonvpn.service have nothing here, but i do have a PID on root 4328 0.0 0.0 6076 824 pts/0 S+ 00:25 0:00 grep protonvpn
131[01:30:50] <sney> sponix: zfs scrub won't break anything, but it can sometimes reveal an underlying hardware problem
132[01:32:59] <sponix> sney: that is what I'm afraid of. That drive is new as of Christmas. I've never given it the overnight badblocks check or such :P
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134[01:33:24] <sney> I've never done an overnight badblocks check and I've been a linux nerd for around 20 years
135[01:33:37] <sney> just run some smart tests and if the drive fails even one, return it under warranty
136[01:33:42] <sponix> sney: and my rig was running, it always still is. It is just the X GUI that I lose
137[01:34:32] <sney> well, then that is probably a different issue.
139[01:35:24] <sponix> sney: yeah, I had to change my composer to compton recently, because the default one with xfce gets a CPU race on me after a while (bug report already exist). So that was my latest suspect of this GUI Lockup
140[01:35:48] <sponix> sney: prior to that, I actually suspected it was the xscreensaver itself. So I disabled that from running
145[01:38:03] <sponix> sney: well, what actually made sense prior was a failing Power Supply. But it is weird that the whole rig still functions except the GUI when this takes place lol
146[01:38:31] <wr> sponix, if have a bad drive, forget badblock just buy new one and get data out
147[01:39:01] <sney> if everything keeps working except the gui, then that is pretty clearly a gpu problem. have you tried with another gpu
148[01:39:44] <sney> if you have some older or buggy or just defective vga adapter, with 1 bad ram chip, it might "work" most of the time but then fail randomly. I've seen it a lot over the years. replacing it makes the problem go away.
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150[01:40:01] <sponix> sney: I could easily put the HDMI cable into my other GTX 960 4GB Card :)
155[01:40:46] <sney> if you are running multiple gpus and you have a video problem then STEP 1: NARROW IT DOWN TO 1 GPU
156[01:40:47] <sponix> sney: oh, the amount of vram on these 2 identical cards does report slightly different. But I've seen that alot on GPUs in general
158[01:41:04] <sney> goofing around with software will never teach you anything new and will just make you crazy with red herrings
159[01:41:09] *** skittle_ is now known as skittle
160[01:41:31] <sney> get out your screwdriver and get to work. nothing else will get anywhere
161[01:41:39] *** skittle is now known as Guest59096
162[01:42:14] <sponix> sney: I see... So you feel I am most likely blaming software for what is more than likely a hardware problem. And that is why I have been spinning my wheels on this ?
177[01:45:34] <usney> Is there any accessibly tools in debian to help people who can't type so they can just talk to produce text? This isn't for me but for a friend.
182[01:47:13] <sponix> sney: if anything, I can use my 580 for the OS, and only 1 960 for nvenc... retiring one 960 (the unstable one) to my Windows 10 Gaming rig :P
235[02:28:09] <sney> you pretty much just have to do one or the other. if you want everything to be manageable via apt, package it. if you want to use npm et al, don't use apt
236[02:28:50] <sney> there are ways to convince apt you already have something installed, and npm might have overrides for that stuff too, but why use two package managers in the first place?
237[02:28:52] <Aurora-Sensei> So manually use webpack. Mkay. Is there any way to setup its resolution to lookup debian lib locations?
295[03:21:58] <sponix> Aurora-Sensei: any time I end up working with it, it goes in a VM so it can't break anything else
296[03:22:14] <Aurora-Sensei> Probably a reasonable stance.
297[03:22:28] <sponix> dvs: Yes, it is the new hotness for request. But hot garbage IMHO
298[03:22:52] <sponix> Aurora-Sensei: might see what Ubuntu 20.04 BETA server has on hand for node.js (inside a VM)
299[03:23:02] <Aurora-Sensei> I wanted to use it locally so I could avoid downloading a blob of JS for a userscript and instead compile from debian-packaged (somewhat more trustworthy source).
303[03:24:11] <Aurora-Sensei> Heh. I've got such solutions. But yeah. I think it's moot anyway. Seems like the site I wanted to scrape is slowly going to hell anyway.
304[03:26:17] <sponix> I did a couple crypto pool hosting things with node.js as paid projects. All I can say is, the pay wasn't enough to compensate for pulling my hair out :P
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618[11:11:54] <mutante> Gryllida: either you can google literally "Linux on ..." for some model or i would say just buy a Thinkpad and it's pretty much safe
628[11:13:37] <mutante> i recommend a Thinkapd start with X for example X250 if you want to spend about 500 or X1 if you want to spend over 1000 (but have an "ultrabook", really light-weight but not crappy)
629[11:14:01] <squigz> (Debian 10, Kernel 4.19) I'm running into some sound issues - Yesterday, my PCI sound card completely disappeared from pulse/alsa. I tried rebooting & replugging the card, but nothing seemed to fix it, until suddenly it just reappeared. Just a few minutes ago, the card stopped producing sound, but pulse/alsa can at least still see it. Kernel gave me these messages:
631[11:14:13] <mutante> the only thing is you will need non-free driver for the wifi .. all else just works
632[11:14:35] <ratrace> Gryllida: you can also get one of those System76 things, they're precisely built for linux
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634[11:15:16] <mutante> also "refurbished" is a nice way to reduce cost but still get decent hardware
635[11:15:36] <ratrace> I've also historically had only positive experiences with Acer laptops
636[11:16:53] <mutante> Gryllida: in general things are better now compared to back in 2010 more hardware will just work. but to be safe try to find it on replaced-url
641[11:22:26] <mutante> except About 6.950.000 results for "Why Dell sucks", like "Why are Dell laptops such crap? - Quora" "Really, why does Dell suck so bad? - Windows Central Forums" hehe
648[11:28:06] <squigz> I found some related issues online that suggest adding a new option to the alsa-base kernel mod configuration - but I don't see such a alsa-base.conf or similar file in /etc/modprobe.d/ - Can I just create it?
649[11:28:41] <squigz> This is what I'm looking at replaced-url
650[11:28:43] <ratrace> squigz: yes
651[11:28:50] <squigz> Okay
652[11:28:57] <squigz> Do I have to load a module or anything, or just reboot?
653[11:29:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1466
654[11:29:50] <ratrace> squigz: I don't know if those module options can be applied at run time, so I guess you better reboot just in case. BTW.... if that hardware was working and then suddenly it developed such issues, and there were no relevant software updates, consider that the hardware is simply failing
655[11:30:00] <squigz> I know...
656[11:30:20] <squigz> really can't afford HW issues at the moment, so I'm in denial :P
657[11:30:38] <ratrace> squigz: also, PCI, you mean it's inserted into the slot? consider de-rusting the connectors
658[11:30:49] <squigz> Hmm
659[11:31:01] <squigz> I sure hope they're not rusty
660[11:31:06] <ratrace> connector rust/oxidation is usually the most likely cause for PCI cards to develop issues.
662[11:31:37] <squigz> This is a bit out of my area... Is there a recommend way of cleaning that?
663[11:31:43] <ratrace> it also affects sata cables, so you hear about "reseating" them.
664[11:31:55] <ratrace> squigz: I just use fine grained sand paper :)
665[11:31:58] <mutante> WD-40 spray can of ?
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667[11:32:28] <ratrace> i'd be careful with wd40. while it does eat rust.... it also leaves oily residue which may or may not be conductive to electricity....
668[11:32:39] <squigz> Yeah I feel like that's asking for more trouble :P
669[11:32:45] <squigz> But HW isn't my area
670[11:32:58] <squigz> I'm gunna try the module option, at any rate, and give my entire computer a good clean in the next day or two
671[11:33:19] <ratrace> sandpaper the connectors or use a knife or something to scratch the oxidation layer away
686[11:38:44] <ratrace> squigz: what would be "more basic HW issue"? those things have no moving parts, so the most likely problem will be caused by oxidation. followed by shortcuts in condensers, short of mechanical damage to the components.
687[11:39:20] <squigz> ratrace: Multiple HW issues with no related software upgrades would indicate to me a possible mobo issue, no?
688[11:39:34] <ratrace> oxidation can also eat away at cold solder joints which at some point becomes insulator
689[11:40:05] <ratrace> squigz: debugging starts with _most_ likely causes. I'd reseat that thing, followed by cleaning the connectors, followed by looking elsewhere
713[11:46:02] <mutante> nt80: sure, but there are still trends. HP: 24.400.000 Dell: 6.950.000, Lenovo: 2.580.000, Acer: 890.000 :) (all of them 'why $brand sucks)
714[11:46:57] <nt80> i think it's only related to popularity of each
715[11:47:05] <squigz> "Why HP is awesome" has 165m results :P
718[11:48:03] <nt80> that google request is definitely not a determining factor for some awesome models of each brand. hp has good servers, for example
719[11:48:16] <mutante> remember "googlefight" bot trigger here on IRC? that was for this :)
720[11:49:09] <trek00> nt80: they bought DEC :)
721[11:50:27] <mutante> "why Dell is awesome" finds "Alienware is awesome. Dell sucks" on the Dell forum itself *gg*
728[11:53:00] <ratrace> I must've been very lucky. Never bought a laptop specifically for linux, never bothered to check hw compat. they all worked out of the box. HP first, then several Acers later.
733[11:54:07] <Gryllida> yeah i am in the sydney area
734[11:54:08] <nt80> for me it's vice versa: older hp laptop always worked with linux, newer not. older dell laptops never worked with linux, newer work
735[11:54:15] <Gryllida> would prefer something that ships from the same country
736[11:54:36] <Gryllida> InstallingDebianOn has a somewhat impractical layout, itis good after i already found the laptop elsewhere
737[11:55:09] <Gryllida> say, i start here: replaced-url
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748[11:59:03] <marduk> hm, I never had any hardware that didn`t worked for me on linux... maybe I am lucky. I had some issues but always found a solution
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807[13:16:57] <ws2k3> im trying to rsync a mysql directory from the current server to a new server. but when i run rsync -avhz --progress --partial --numeric-ids --exclude=/dev --exclude=/sys --exclude=/proc root@server:/var/lib/mysql/ /var/lib/mysql nothing actualy happens..... what could i be wroing wrong?
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818[13:21:59] <ratrace> ws2k3: for starters, I'd use a much less complicated option list..... I'd just use -va root@server:/var/lib/mysql/ /var/lib/mysql/ and if you want total transfer progress, then it's --info=progress2
819[13:22:21] <ratrace> I also like to add -X and -A to retain xattrs and ACLs, just in case
874[13:56:46] <bryanpedini> I recently changed my primary monitor because the previous one came up with dead pixels, before I had two identical monitors, now I have two different brands. (I swapped the monitor on Windows, so for Debian's sake it was basically a shut-off situation).
875[13:57:02] <Lope> ratrace, I've gotten further with my x2go experiments.
876[13:57:06] <GarySmith2222> hello!
877[13:57:20] <GarySmith2222> What time is it in your countries?
878[13:57:29] <GarySmith2222> @sr
879[13:57:35] <bryanpedini> Now every time I boot in Debian I have to manually change the primary monitor to the new one, because the bottom panel and the primary desktop background are on the wrong monitor
880[13:57:41] <bryanpedini> Does anybody know why?
883[13:58:46] <GarySmith2222> Maybe you changed something important,bryanpedini
884[13:59:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1483
885[13:59:23] <GarySmith2222> Because I can't use pacman properly
886[13:59:45] <bryanpedini> the physical ports used for the two monitors are the same, the connector is the same (HDMI for both monitors, before and after, no change), and even the resolution is the same (FullHD before and after for both monitors)
887[13:59:58] <Lope> ratrace, it turns out that no custom options are necessary in qemu.conf on the host and no custom pulseaudio config options are necessary in the guest. it will work with ICH6, AC97 audio and probably ICH9 as well via x2go. Literally the only requirements that I've been able to establish so far is 1. Must use spice. If I use VNC for the Display then can't get any sound. 2. Must not run sddm service because then pulseaudio gets run twice probably, one for
888[13:59:59] <Lope> each X session, then the audio doesn't come through x2go.
889[14:00:17] <GarySmith2222> And I am in a trouble now
890[14:00:26] <bryanpedini> the only think I can think it changed, is the refresh rate of my new primary monitor that I bought specifically for "more advanced" gaming, so I went with a 75Hz display...
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892[14:00:34] <GarySmith2222> I can't connect to my computer
893[14:00:38] <Lope> ratrace, I'm trying to see about enabling GPU acceleration in the VM, to see if that helps with CPU usage of playing a youtube video in it. just for interest sake.
894[14:00:39] <bryanpedini> IDK, nothing else I can think of...
895[14:00:47] <GarySmith2222> I am using IRC in my phone
896[14:01:07] <ratrace> GarySmith2222: you're probably in the wrong channel and want #archlinux
897[14:01:24] <GarySmith2222> this is a good advice
906[14:03:38] <bryanpedini> ratrace, no, because the physical port the Acer (primary) monitor is connected, is the first one the GPU displays image on during POST and BIOS
907[14:03:51] <bryanpedini> so I would like it to remain in the Acer's monitor...
908[14:04:02] <bryanpedini> it's basically the default factory port 0...
909[14:04:06] <ratrace> bryanpedini: but just for a test....
910[14:04:11] <bryanpedini> I can try, sure...
911[14:04:41] <ratrace> bryanpedini: meanwhile, if you have nvidia, iirc nvida-settings has a way to configure monitor geometry, you just need to run that as root so it can save a /etc/X11/xorg.conf
912[14:04:48] <Lope> ratrace, Since messing around with the spice display virtual hardware, trying to enable openGL for the VM's display device (I dunno if that would be accessible by the x2go session) virt-manager has been giving me errors about certificates. right now I'm getting some errors Could not load certificates from /etc/pki/qemu/server-cert.pem. The /etc/pki/qemu/ didn't actually exist. So I generated some self-signed crap and put it in there but it's not happy
913[14:04:49] <Lope> about it.
914[14:05:29] <bryanpedini> ratrace, is "X Server XVideo Settings" under "X Screen 0"?
915[14:06:02] <ratrace> bryanpedini: "X Server Display configuration" which is second option from the top, in nvidia-settings
922[14:08:57] <ws2k3> how can i install a package from oldstable on buster?
923[14:09:17] <bryanpedini> also, to be noted, even tho I have the Nvidia proprietary drivers, I still have tearing and stuttering on the monitors (only on Debian tho, not on Win)
924[14:09:35] <bryanpedini> ws2k3, you can try adding oldstable in your sources.list
925[14:09:38] <abrotman> ws2k3: why would you want to do that?
926[14:09:46] <Wulf> ws2k3: download the package, dpkg -i. Or download the sources and compile them on buster.
927[14:09:54] <abrotman> It's like you're determined to break your system on a daily basis
929[14:11:07] <bryanpedini> ratrace, any clue on why it would reset even tho it has correct primary monitor settings both on system and on Nvidia control panel?
930[14:11:36] <ratrace> bryanpedini: some race condition with gpu initialization or something. that's why I wanted to suggest to use nvida-settings to create a xorg.conf and try to force the geometry that way
931[14:11:38] <ws2k3> abrotman Wulf i need replaced-url
932[14:12:06] <abrotman> What's wrong with the libboost in Buster?
933[14:12:21] <bryanpedini> ratrace, let me reboot, and when I get the reset monitor, I'll check the Nvidia settings to see if those get reset too...
934[14:12:30] <bryanpedini> sounds good for troubleshooting?
935[14:12:37] <omar> bryanpedini bumblebee fixes the tearing
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937[14:13:03] <ws2k3> abaranov i think its not available replaced-url
938[14:13:22] <bryanpedini> omar, I do not have a secondary GPU tho (I mean, I have, but nothing is connected to it, this is a PC not a laptop, if my understanding of what Bumblebee is for is correct)
939[14:13:36] <bryanpedini> or it doesn't matter?
940[14:13:48] <omar> ahhhhh
941[14:13:51] <abrotman> ws2k3: what are you isntalling that requires that specific package/version?
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950[14:14:36] <squigz> ratrace: Well, I pulled the card out and checked it out, there didn't appear to be any rust. I put it in aother slot. Still not showing up :/
970[14:19:10] <ratrace> bryanpedini: it will create it. nowadays xorg.conf is not needed due to autodetection, but it's a way to force settings to xorg
971[14:19:32] <bryanpedini> okay, saved.
972[14:19:35] <ratrace> bryanpedini: if for some reason that goes south and you're unable to boot into graphics mode later, put systemd.unit=multi-user.target into kernel command line via grub, boot into text mode and remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf that nvidia-settings created
973[14:19:46] <squigz> ratrace: Hmmm. So according to `lshw`, the card is recognized, but it's not being seen by alsa
974[14:20:13] <bryanpedini> ratrace, seems like this is a force method that sometimes break things...
975[14:20:31] <bryanpedini> btw, let me reboot one more time and check...
977[14:20:44] <ratrace> bryanpedini: well nvidia-settings will store entire settings into xorg.conf, not just geometry, and it is _possible_ (though not likely) it'll break on next boot
1091[14:47:08] <ratrace> bryanpedini: but with my admittedly limited experience in inner workings of WINE, I'd say what it does now is vastly better, at least performance wise, than any emulation would be
1092[14:47:56] <ratrace> bryanpedini: eh, what kind of computing environment you've got there...
1116[14:52:56] <bryanpedini> it's not the other way around
1117[14:53:15] <Ede|Popede> bryanpedini: no, it's never them. it's either the client or the server. never seen a "sorry, something went wrong on our side" from them
1118[14:53:29] <bryanpedini> Ede|Popede, of course...
1121[14:54:19] <bryanpedini> have you ever seen a "sorry, something on our F* idiot moron system because we do not know how to program it, caused all your personal documents to be permanently deleted" on Windows 10 upd. 1809?
1129[14:55:58] <bryanpedini> ratrace, true, except when you consider people like my Father-in-law, to which I have personally upgraded their company's PC from Windows XP to Windows 7 last year
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1132[14:56:36] <bryanpedini> with *that* XP machine almost always connected to the internet with a PATA disk, that carried (of course, without any single backup) all their data since the start of their company
1133[14:57:07] <ratrace> bryanpedini: blaming windows for that is..... ridiculous. Some time ago I had both EXT4 and ZFS eat up files on my test systems. ext4 due to MQ bug in early 4.19 kernels, and ZFS due to some mishap with glibc...
1134[14:57:48] <ratrace> wasn't catastrophic because I had good backups. Point is, no software is free of bugs.
1136[14:58:07] <bryanpedini> ratrace, true, that is ridiculous... until you consider a simple fact: *YOU* are responsible for what happens on misconfigured Linux systems, because *YOU* did it
1137[14:58:24] <ratrace> it wasn't misconfigurd at all. an update came in and borked everything.
1138[14:58:37] <bryanpedini> WHO is responsible for a bad coded piece of garbage OS that nobody can watch into?
1139[14:59:05] <bryanpedini> ratrace, so, basically same situation as 1809 yeah...?
1142[15:00:21] <ratrace> bryanpedini: but by that logic, regular users are just in the same hot water windows users are. only a handful of poeple can look into ext4 code and go "Aha! bug!" and even THEY did not spot it until it was found in the wild.....
1143[15:00:42] <ratrace> the argument is moot :) and I'm sure, very much so offtopic now ;)
1144[15:00:58] <bryanpedini> I agree with OT...
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1146[15:01:19] <Ede|Popede> another reason not to use a bleeding edge distro in daily life :P
1193[15:32:31] <trek00> Haohmaru: may be xarchiver? ark? engrampa?
1194[15:32:38] <Ede|Popede> Haohmaru: if something invisible takes long enough or you're fast enough you may generally find it in htop's screen, where i recommend the tree view.
1198[15:34:16] <trek00> lxde seems to use xarchiver by default
1199[15:34:18] <Ede|Popede> not sure if the filemanager or the DE decides here. seems to me that they are really close to each other, w/o the fm running in the background some things don't seem to work on the desktop
1200[15:34:59] <Haohmaru> trek00 yes, but i think it's not xarchiver, because iirc xarchiver had a slightly more annoying UI when you "compress" a selection of files
1201[15:35:25] <Haohmaru> that is.. it allows you to make an archive without file extension if you're not careful
1242[15:55:43] <tinga> Hi. Pulseaudio has begun to refuse to be started: pulseaudio --kill => .. no such process; pulseaudio --start => E: [PULSEAUDIO] main.c: Daemon startup failed.
1247[15:58:00] <trek00> tinga: i really don't know pulseaudio, but if you don't need it and you only want to ear sounds, may be you can just uninstall it as last resort
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1249[15:58:34] <tinga> I used to do that for like a decade (*always* had issues with it). Then firefox started to work properly without it.
1250[15:58:46] <tinga> So I installed it again, still only starting it when using firefox.
1251[15:59:02] <tinga> And that used to work fine. But not today.
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1253[15:59:08] <trek00> i use firefox-esr without the need of pulseaudio
1259[15:59:59] <tinga> trek00, you mean ~/.config/pulse ? done that
1260[16:00:01] <trek00> tinga: (or better to move around)
1261[16:00:25] <trek00> tinga: well i can't help, may be someone know it better
1262[16:00:44] <tinga> greycat, I'm on oldstable and it didn't work: I had to disable the mic in Wire to get any sound, turning the mic back on would mess it up again. Same with jitsi iirc.
1274[16:10:09] <greycat> first google result for that is from someone who edited their /etc/pulse/default.pa file -- any chance you did that? or that this file has become corrupt, or been deleted?
1283[16:12:40] <tinga> Yeh, fine, I didn't do that though. "apt-get install --reinstall pulseaudio" created that directory, no change.
1284[16:12:45] <tinga> Let me try purge
1285[16:12:59] <greycat> !confmiss
1286[16:12:59] <dpkg> You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>.
1287[16:13:05] <greycat> (or purge and reinstall)
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1293[16:16:09] <tinga> Purge+reinstall did create the files
1294[16:16:18] <tinga> and it starts now.
1295[16:16:23] <RadoS> !netinstaller
1296[16:16:36] <tinga> Thanks! But Now I've got NO idea why that happened. I had it running just yesterday.
1297[16:16:46] <RadoS> !net-installer
1298[16:16:49] <greycat> !netinst
1299[16:16:49] <dpkg> netinst is, like, a small CD image with which you can install Debian. If, during the installation process you have a working Internet connection, you can install more packages straight away, otherwise, you will have a base install and more packages later. See replaced-url
1300[16:16:55] <RadoS> greycat, thanks.
1301[16:17:00] <tinga> So either it *did* run without these files yesterday, or those files vanished in a way that I have no idea why.
1302[16:17:08] <greycat> tinga: system crashed, rebooted and fsck'ed and the files were lost in the fsck?
1303[16:17:28] <tinga> Nope, didn't reboot since Apr 9
1310[16:19:21] <RadoS> I boot up dhcp, which is setup to provide net-installer via tftp. System get params from dhcp apparently OK, then it says "PXELINUX 6.04 PXE 20190226 ..." and is stuck there, no progree
1343[16:39:48] <Lope> Does anyone know how to enable OpenGL as a Display Spice device in virt-manager? I've searched about the issue. The only way I was able to get the VM to actually (supposedly) "start" without "errors" in virt-manager was to set the Display spice to listen on a unix socket. I tried auto and also explicitly selecting the GPU. I tried adding 'libvirt-qemu' user to 'render' and 'video' groups. I tried adding "/dev/dri/renderD128" to cgroup_device_acl in
1344[16:39:48] <Lope> /etc/libvirt/qemu.conf I rebooted after adjusting configs and also tried `chmod 777 /dev/dri/renderD128`. But I was not able to get the VM to fully boot when openGL was enabled for the Display Spice device and was not able to see anything on the screen nor able to get virt-manager's view > Text Consoles > Serial 1 to do/show anything whatsoever. reference: replaced-url
1368[16:54:59] <FuzzyByte> n-iCe: There are multiple low-resource alternatives, but as greycat suggested, a window manager might be the better option. There are loads to try, a few notable ones are i3, openbox, and jwm. There are also lightweight DEs, such as Xfce, lxde & trinity.
1369[16:55:03] <Lope> kde runs on some pretty shitty laptops if you disable all the animations etc.
1370[16:55:09] <FuzzyByte> but yeah, greycat is right.
1371[16:55:11] <Lope> and KDE is awesome
1372[16:55:13] <n-iCe> thank you guys
1373[16:55:36] <FuzzyByte> Lope: I've experienced KDE as mostly bloated and resource-hungry in the past.
1374[16:55:52] <Lope> FuzzyByte, it's improved a lot in recent years
1406[17:01:44] <n-iCe> <FuzzyByte> we might not be talkking about the same thing here --> so which one I need to look to make my wpa2 connection?
1407[17:02:38] <SnakesAndStuff> FuzzyByte: That is what I am trying, but it isn't found in the repos... trying to find a stable/official repo that maintains it
1411[17:03:19] <greycat> Notice how "jessie" is not shown there.
1412[17:04:05] <joepublic> don't really see wheezy or buster either
1413[17:04:07] <lwp> !debian edu
1414[17:04:08] <dpkg> Debian Edu is a project that aims to provide a free software distribution that is tailored for educational scenarios such as the class room, the staff room and the administration office. Ask me about <skolelinux>. replaced-url
1415[17:04:17] <dostoyevsky> I have two 500g ssds in /dev/md* -- could I tell mdadm or the like that I would like to use the 1TB fully instead of just 500g in total... I do not care about performance or data security, just having more space...
1416[17:04:36] <lwp> n-Ice: ^^^^^
1417[17:04:46] <FuzzyByte> n-iCe: nmcli should be preinstalled, btu you might find it hard t use, so I encourage you to get nmtui.
1418[17:05:24] <SnakesAndStuff> judd: But is that save to add that repo for jessie/8.11?
1442[17:09:40] <FuzzyByte> you might write a script to read failed authentication attempts off a logfile, e.g. failed ssh logins
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1444[17:10:01] <Choumou> No logs, I just want to write a script that will be executed everytime that someone try to connect on a debian session, automatically
1445[17:10:04] <Choumou> In real time
1446[17:10:06] <Choumou> Is it possible ?
1447[17:10:17] <dostoyevsky> Would `mdadm /dev/md2 --grow --level=0' convert my raid1 to a raid0?
1497[17:18:31] <Choumou> Yeah but for detecting in real time, i need to launch a script at debian startupt ( which will parse the logs yes ), how can i do that ?
1514[17:25:09] <FuzzyByte> joepublic: Pasting from stackoverflow without understanding the stuff you paste is bad, using stackoverflow to teach yourself those stuffs is a good approach and will teach you more about practical application than manpages.
1520[17:33:19] <FuzzyByte> As I said, google and stackoverflow are your best friend when it comes to text processing with sh tools, such as awk, sed, grep and stuff.
1526[17:37:26] <Choumou> And is it possible to get the password that failed for authentification in logs ?
1527[17:37:27] <dostoyevsky> I just realize that because I want to use nvidia drivers I probably shouldn't use debian on this new system... as nvidia supports other distributions better..
1538[17:39:39] <FuzzyByte> cybercrypto: tell the password of failed logins
1539[17:39:52] <FuzzyByte> Wait that was some crappy grammar
1540[17:41:04] <FuzzyByte> greycat: What leads you to believe tha those are invaluable for his needs?
1541[17:42:42] <greycat> Googling shell questions tends to lead you to the same crappy cargo-culted scripts and answers that we've been fighting against for 30 years. All just echo-chambering the same wrong answers around and around forever.
1542[17:43:21] <cybercrypto> FuzzyByte: what? If i fail to login, the system would tell me the password? I dont get it.... :(
1543[17:43:38] <greycat> StackOverflow answers are a mixed bag, sometimes OK, sometimes very bad. It takes actual knowledge to determine which is which.
1544[17:43:51] <greycat> cybercrypto: NO. It does not.
1545[17:44:20] <greycat> At least, nothing in a standard Debian install logs passwords like that.
1546[17:45:06] <FuzzyByte> greycat: That is true if users just cpoy-paste everything. That was not my recommendation to begin with, though Stack Overflow has proven useful for practical usage of existing knowledge.
1547[17:45:43] <FuzzyByte> greycat: It'd be a huge security hole if it was implemented.
1553[17:53:09] <cybercrypto> torwards what purpose (more than one?) this 'functionality' would be benefitial? Just for me to better understand, how this topic arised?
1570[18:01:12] <wild_buffalo> nkuttler: right, I know what I'll say will sound super silly but considering my day job as a security analyst and the kind of non-technical people I meet, sometimes people don't know why it is bad that it leaks passwords
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1572[18:01:16] <FuzzyByte> There are multiple reasons: 1) Is that the system doesn't really know the password, it uses a one-way function to calculate a checksum from the password, and if it equals the checksum stored, it lets you in, and 2) You might mistype the password, and if an attacker gets the password with 1 cahnged character, he's basically inside your system.
1575[18:02:07] <wild_buffalo> So sometimes it's useful to explain fairly basic concepts to people, that we assume are obvious because we're well versed on the subject
1576[18:02:32] <cybercrypto> wild_buffalo: Agree
1577[18:02:34] <FuzzyByte> And now I wasted my time writin something and notice that it has already been explained.
1580[18:03:08] <wild_buffalo> Choumou: since the system can't see the password, in order to accomplish what you're trying to do, you would have to do one of two things:
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1589[18:05:51] <wild_buffalo> and it would involve quite a bit of effort, since all secure software is build around that basic concept, you'd have to build wrappers around SSH etc. Not an easy task
1590[18:05:52] <FuzzyByte> You can still make your idea come true, just without passwords.
1591[18:06:12] <wild_buffalo> Choumou: What's the problem you're trying to solve? Perhaps there's an alternative solution to it?
1597[18:07:20] <FuzzyByte> Choumou: What weree you trying to do in the first place? What would that script hacve done?
1598[18:07:21] <Choumou> To know when someone is trying to access to my session
1599[18:07:26] <giantmidget> Hey lads
1600[18:07:51] <FuzzyByte> giantmidget: Hello there
1601[18:07:53] <wild_buffalo> Choumou: OK for that specific thing you can just look at login logs and tell the system to email when someone attempts to connect
1602[18:08:04] <wild_buffalo> You just won't know what password they used
1603[18:08:07] <greycat> Choumou: your COMPUTER. They are trying to log in to your COMPUTER.
1616[18:09:45] <cybercrypto> Choumou: you can log every attempt of login. Is that not enougth?
1617[18:09:54] <giantmidget> Got this issue with my system : every so often I launch a program which will shit itself and freeze the desktop, but I can move the mouse. Nothing will work except the elephant keystrokes. Any ideas?
1618[18:09:55] <FuzzyByte> Choumou: A technically versed person would just boot from another system and edit /etc/passwd
1619[18:10:00] <n-iCe> Lol I removed de to install and it installed gnome again FuzzyByte
1620[18:10:12] <FuzzyByte> n-iCe: Why doe
1621[18:10:24] <wild_buffalo> FuzzyByte: not if the disk is encrypted
1622[18:10:31] <Choumou> FuzzyByte : he can't boot from another system
1659[18:18:24] <wild_buffalo> CTRL + ALT + Backspace kill X?
1660[18:18:30] <giantmidget> wild_buffalo Yes of course, that's the first thing I tried, but that doesn't do anything. That's what I find odd - the mouse moves but all windows are frozen and no key combinations work
1708[18:24:04] <cybercrypto> I using i3 for now... very low resources and no need to 'mouse around'
1709[18:24:07] <wild_buffalo> I'm just being funny I just use Gnome
1710[18:24:17] <wild_buffalo> :P
1711[18:25:08] <giantmidget> :P
1712[18:25:12] <FuzzyByte> giantmidget: micro is the king of terminal editors. it has all the conveniences of graphical editors, yet it is terminal based and can be keybound to whatever yu like
1713[18:25:29] <FuzzyByte> Even more than nano
1714[18:25:43] <FuzzyByte> which alread is v e r y user-ffriendly
1715[18:26:03] <FuzzyByte> For fuck's sake, what's wrong with my typing today
1716[18:26:40] <n-iCe> (cybercrypto) I using i3 for now... very low resources and no need to 'mouse around' - I like the mouse thing haha
1717[18:26:41] <giantmidget> Ah yes nano - the "college freshman enrolled in intro to C"'s choice
1728[18:29:10] <wild_buffalo> FuzzyByte: I've used Vim for like 5 years as my main editor, and I would like to graciously counter with this: replaced-url
1729[18:29:39] <wild_buffalo> TL;DR you can get Vim's full functionality in Emacs
1730[18:29:49] <FuzzyByte> wild_buffalo: also, it's like the standard *nix editor. Some variant of it is installed on every unixoid system.
1740[18:31:40] <wild_buffalo> anyway, that's not the point I was trying to make, I definitely think everyone should learn Vim/Unix if for the very least be able to be dropped in a random machine and be able to use it
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1743[18:32:26] <wild_buffalo> FuzzyByte: but unless you're a sysadmin, how many times a week do you drop into a random system so that the fact you know Vi becomes relevant?
1746[18:33:11] <wild_buffalo> With Emacs pretty much never because it's got TRAMP, aka it transparently open remotes files in my local session
1747[18:34:36] <wild_buffalo> I can pass ssh:someserver.example:filename to emacs and it'll open in my local machine, and let me use my local editor without opening a shell and vim on the remote
1750[18:35:48] <wild_buffalo> and it works transparently, to the editor that is just a filepath, so just about every functionality/plugin it just works
1757[18:38:10] <fuxxy> Not debian-specific per se, I'm trying to troubleshoot a python script. I don't know python. Is there a way I can test-run some search paramaters on a source file to see if my half-assed edits work?
1758[18:38:32] <n-iCe> FuzzyByte almost done
1759[18:39:18] <wild_buffalo> fuxxy: maybe try #python? other than that you can maybe try a python debugger like pdb (built in), pudb or ipdb
1760[18:39:24] <cybercrypto> fuxxy: you mean like -e when using bash?
1767[18:40:54] <wild_buffalo> giantmidget: is there a specific program that it happens with or this happens just in general?
1768[18:41:09] <fuxxy> cybercrypto, wild_buffalo, sort of. I get the gist of what this script is trying to do, I just want to test run specific snippets to ensure the script is getting the same results as before (structure of source file has changed)
1771[18:41:56] <wild_buffalo> well type python (or python3) on your terminall
1772[18:42:03] <wild_buffalo> that will give you an interactive shell
1773[18:42:17] <wild_buffalo> copy your code in there and press enter to run (if it's just a few lines)
1774[18:42:20] <giantmidget> wild_buffalo just happends
1775[18:42:33] <wild_buffalo> it'll print the result
1776[18:42:45] <wild_buffalo> fuxxy: That way you can try stuff and see what happens
1777[18:43:15] <wild_buffalo> you can also install the ipython shell which is a lot more full featured
1778[18:43:31] <fuxxy> the entire .py is 256 lines, but again, I don't know python. So I don't know if there are dependancies that will fail if not run from within kodi (its a kodi addon)
1779[18:43:42] <wild_buffalo> ok in that case
1780[18:43:58] <giantmidget> My question is mainly is there a way to get out of it when it happens without rebooting? Rebooting is for windows fags and I don't like doing it
1821[18:50:19] <wild_buffalo> fuxxy: that's fine, it's supposed to be blank
1822[18:50:26] <wild_buffalo> it's kind of like an optional variable
1823[18:50:37] <wild_buffalo> also, you need to know if the script is python 2 or three
1824[18:50:41] <fuxxy> wild_buffalo, that's what I gathered
1825[18:50:45] <kline> n-iCe, if you dont have wpa_supplicant on the laptop, you can install it wherever you are now and copy over the required output by hand
1826[18:50:47] <wild_buffalo> anyway, put all of them in the python path
1827[18:50:58] <wild_buffalo> then open a python shell
1828[18:51:00] <fuxxy> I'm not sure where I found it, but I'm 100% positive it's python2.7
1829[18:51:30] <wild_buffalo> k great so python -> opens a python 2 shell and python3 -> we
1830[18:51:36] <wild_buffalo> well you know how it goes
1831[18:51:47] <kline> n-iCe, also, double check whats available on the install media you used to put debian on, you may find there are packages on it that can be used for configuring wifi
1832[18:51:48] <greycat> "python" invokes a python 2.x interpreter, yes, by specification
1833[18:52:11] <wild_buffalo> anyway Python has two types of modules, just a file or a package
1834[18:52:25] <wild_buffalo> A package is a dir with the file __init__.py inside, as well as its other files
1837[18:53:09] <wild_buffalo> so if e.g. "codequick" is a package, you add the directory containing it to the path
1838[18:53:39] <greycat> if it's a *Debian* package, any utilities you're intended to execute directly should be in one of the standard PATH directories already
1839[18:53:46] <fuxxy> wild_buffalo, making sense so far. codequick is a different kodi addon - I'm sure it's another python script
1889[19:10:02] <n-iCe> One more thing, the correct way to install a package is apt install packaname right? but thats the correct way to remove it and remove all installed with it, apt remove does not remove all does it?
1890[19:10:46] <greycat> the problem with the "lightweight graphical web browsers" is that corporate entities rarely write sites that can be navigated by anything less than the full blown "most recent" firefox/chrome/MSIE
1892[19:11:10] <n-iCe> I see, so chromium would be a good idea_
1893[19:11:14] <n-iCe> ?
1894[19:11:15] <derpadmin> greycat : correct
1895[19:11:17] <greycat> if you want to browse a site that has linux information, your lightweight browser may be great, but if you want to do *banking*, it won't
1919[19:20:01] <fuxxy> wild_buffalo, so if I'm trying to import 'codequick' - a single folder named 'codequick' exists on the system, but it doesent contain any files named 'codequick.py'. all attempts end with 'no module named codequick'
1920[19:20:25] <greycat> if it's a Debian package, it should have instructions in /usr/share/doc/codequick/
1921[19:20:31] <greycat> if it's not, then ask a Python channel how to do this
1947[19:29:34] <n-iCe> how ca I configurate it lol
1948[19:29:50] <n-iCe> its weird since I configure it in the installation
1949[19:29:57] <greycat> !keymap
1950[19:29:57] <dpkg> Run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" to change both your default console and X keymap; the setxkbmap utility can be used to adjust keymap settings during X operation. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps, xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>.
1961[19:32:10] <greycat> so... I am guessing... you *didn't* restart X after running dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration? I don't know whether you need to or not, but I would guess you do.
1967[19:32:32] <n-iCe> ¡fíltrela con arcadas con [*] producen una salida extensa,
1968[19:32:33] <greycat> why not use a terminal you *don't* hate?
1969[19:32:53] <n-iCe> dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration command not found
1970[19:33:02] <greycat> !buster su
1971[19:33:02] <dpkg> In buster, su no longer overrides PATH by default, requiring that you use "su -" or "su -l" for login shells (which is not really a new thing at all...). To approximate the previous behaviour, put "ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes" in /etc/login.defs. See replaced-url
2062[20:36:01] <dpkg> phpMyAdmin is a tool written in PHP intended to handle MySQL administration over the Internet. Can create and drop databases, create/drop/alter tables, delete/edit/add fields, execute any SQL statement, and manage keys on fields. Read /usr/share/doc/phpmyadmin/README.Debian and run "dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin" to configure your web server. replaced-url
2063[20:36:06] <nkuttler> Akuw: there's also a qa page for every package replaced-url
2064[20:36:24] <ws2k3> im trying to configure cgroups on debian 9. im following this tutorial replaced-url
2065[20:36:26] <greycat> huh... isn't that the one with the...
2068[20:37:14] <greycat> Am I thinking of the wrong factoid, or did someone neuter this one?
2069[20:37:35] <ratrace> why, what were you excpecting?
2070[20:37:42] <nkuttler> !factinfo phpmyadmin
2071[20:37:42] <dpkg> phpmyadmin -- created by KerPlunk <n=user_nam@wlogin.farmingdale.edu> at Wed Mar 29 20:08:42 2006 (5128 days); last modified at Wed Jan 13 14:40:09 2010 by gsimmons!~gsimmons@gsimmons.org; it has been requested 115 times, last by greycat, 45s ago.
2072[20:38:00] <greycat> "I'd rather shove knives into a live socket than run phpmyadmin on an exposed server" or simialr.
2073[20:38:40] <derpadmin> /quote
2074[20:38:54] <greycat> !webmin
2075[20:38:54] <dpkg> Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at replaced-url
2076[20:39:00] <greycat> Sorry, my mistake.
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2078[20:40:33] <ws2k3> so i attemted to configure cgroups in debian 9. here are all my configs and tests replaced-url
2079[20:40:42] <joepublic> I shoved a hatpin into a live socket once in an attempt to repair a night-light. I was 2.
2080[20:41:04] <joepublic> the experiment was successful, albeit very briefly.
2135[21:22:43] <mutantturkey> is there a way to see why packages are 'not upgraded'
2136[21:22:51] <mutantturkey> in my situation... 1500 packages re 'not upgraded'
2137[21:23:19] <joepublic> dpkg, bat
2138[21:23:19] <dpkg> [Basic Apt* Troubleshooting]. To diagnose your problem, we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
2161[21:46:18] <greycat> What are you actually trying to DO?
2162[21:46:19] <ws2k3> greycat any idea why i cannot kill of a proces that seems to be waiting of IO duo to the cgroup limit
2163[21:46:32] <ws2k3> greycat limint the amount of disk io and cpu a proces can use
2164[21:46:50] <ws2k3> cause reguarly some processes take all the available resources
2165[21:47:09] <ws2k3> which results in other processes hanging or getting stuck
2166[21:47:10] <greycat> Unix resource limits will cause the kernel to kill a process when it exceeds a limit. I don't know how cgroups would differ from that.
2175[21:51:14] * greycat googles "unix resource limit disk I/O" and one of the results is replaced-url
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2177[21:51:56] <greycat> So, at a guess? What you would do is write a systemd unit to drive your service, and use a regular unix resource limit for CPU time, and use one of these "cgroup" thingies to do the disk I/O limit.
2178[21:52:37] <greycat> For the former, see systemd.exec(5) and look for LimitCPU=
2184[21:54:04] <greycat> Astonishing. You got the hard/impossible thing to work but not the easy thing. Oh well, I told you where to set the configs for the easy thing.
2185[21:54:04] <ws2k3> at least i think its not
2186[21:54:29] <ws2k3> greycat any idea how i could verify if the cpu limit is working?
2187[21:54:33] <greycat> (if you're not using a systemd unit to drive the service, then you use "ulimit" to set resource limits in the shell script that kicks it off)
2188[21:54:36] <ws2k3> the proces is still using 100 % cpu in top
2235[22:40:44] <russell--> what's the standard way of rebuilding a module for debian's kernel, with a different .config option (namely: CONFIG_ATH9K_HTC_DEBUGFS=y), and ideally, package it so it can be managed with standard debian package management?
2244[22:47:51] <mzajc> My system starts swapping programs out when I hit the 10 GB physical memory mark, even though I have 16 GB installed. What could be causing this?
2245[22:48:52] <sponix2ipfw> mzajc: swap isn't only used when you are out of ram
2256[22:51:19] <mzajc> and I don't have an issue with swap being used, as long as there aren't 6 gigabytes of physical just sitting there and doing nothing
2277[23:01:25] <Transsiberian> hi, has anyone experienced problems with Google Chrome not starting (google-chrome-stable 81.0.4044.92-1 amd64) on Debian unstable. When trying to launch Chrome, it shows this error and apparently hangs:
2278[23:01:28] <Transsiberian> google-chrome
2279[23:01:29] <Transsiberian> [6398:6398:0413/225122.690299:ERROR:edid_parser.cc(102)] Too short EDID data: manufacturer id
2280[23:02:34] <sponix2ipfw> Transsiberian: try it with the flag to disable hardware acceleration
2281[23:02:44] <mzajc> Transsiberian: you should probably install chromium instead, I don't know how well google chrome is maintainedm, since it's not even in the main repository
2288[23:05:44] <Transsiberian> sponix2ipfw: thanks, I had already tried with --disable-gpu with the same results. I have been running chrome without issues since many years ago. I will try on #debian-next. Many thanks again!
2340[23:21:39] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) apt update; apt install build-essential; apt build-dep packagename 4) apt -b source packagename 5) dpkg -i packagename-ver.deb To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
2356[23:24:44] <dpkg> Roundcube is an <IMAP> client written in PHP. This software is not part of the Debian 8 "Jessie" release (bug #775666) but is available in <jessie-backports>. Debian 7 "Wheezy" users: SQLite v2 support was dropped, see /usr/share/doc/roundcube-sqlite/NEWS.Debian.gz and replaced-url
2357[23:24:45] <cyveris> mzajc: Then your issue is not that your iGPU is consuming your memory.
2364[23:31:09] <Lope2> definitely don't do it. you'll probably brick your install.
2365[23:31:36] <Lope2> if it's compiling from source that might be okay. but not just a straight up apt install.
2366[23:33:08] <sponix2ipfw> Lope2: I am still learning. Just learned how to specify a certain version or branch of something recently. And how to hold packages. Etc
2423[23:54:09] <jhutchins> roundcube on stretch, is there a way to turn off the "Attach File" frame when composing? The "Attach" button at the top should be sufficient.
2424[23:54:56] <sponix2ipfw> bolovanos: sweet
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2427[23:56:23] <bolovanos> sponix2ipfw, /var/log -> apt/history.log or apt/term.log do not tell more