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19 [00:15:18] <kittonian> hi all. i am trying to build the latest geoipupdate from maxmind and it's requiring pandoc. I installed pandoc via apt and now it's complaining about "no version number", but when I went to install the libghc-pandoc-dev it wants to install a ridiculous amount of other stuff. perhaps I am choosing the wrong dev package?
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61 [00:37:01] <dob1> what does that mean ? [vsftpd.conf:1] Line references path below legacy directory /var/run/, updating /var/run/vsftpd/empty → /run/vsftpd/empty; please update the tmpfiles.d/ drop-in file accordingly
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64 [00:38:32] <dob1> I cannot start it...
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70 [00:41:18] <dob1> and I can start it with /etc/init.d/vsftpd not by systemd
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73 [00:44:48] <lupulo> dob1, do you have systemV or systemd?
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76 [00:45:04] <dob1> lupulo, I use systemd for every service
77 [00:45:04] <lupulo> dob1, install Freebsd sure you could start with init.d
78 [00:45:15] <dob1> freebsd?
79 [00:45:24] <dob1> I am using debian
80 [00:45:46] <lupulo> dob1, daemons don't understand system
81 [00:46:03] <lupulo> they read the script from init.d or lib/system
82 [00:46:17] <lupulo> your problem is not daemon read from init.d
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86 [00:47:08] <dob1> lupulo, I used init.d in the older debian releases and I am using systemd now. imho the problem is vsftp, systemctl status vsftpd works but I was not able to start it before
87 [00:47:31] <lupulo> dob1, replaced-url
88 [00:47:40] <lupulo> dob1, systemctl enable vsftpd
89 [00:47:58] <dob1> lupulo, I know these commands but as you see there was an error before
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94 [00:49:01] <lupulo> dob1, increase the debug level verbose
95 [00:49:02] <lupulo> replaced-url
96 [00:49:33] <dob1> lupulo, I was able to start it
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102 [00:55:02] <lupulo> dob1, i don't understand "your please update the tmpfiles.d"
103 [00:55:04] <lupulo> replaced-url
104 [00:55:20] <dob1> lupulo, it was an error that I get after the installation of vsftpd
105 [00:55:48] <lupulo> but do you know systemd-tmpfiles?
106 [00:55:51] <lupulo> it is new
107 [00:57:11] <lupulo> do you have a docker?
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114 [01:00:43] <dob1> lupulo, no
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116 [01:00:54] <dob1> lupulo, I read it's a bug
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119 [01:03:17] <lupulo> no idea, but systemv and systemd are not the same scheme
120 [01:03:30] <jim> are recent apt and dpkg multiarch?
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127 [01:05:15] <edlou> Boohbah: yes?
128 [01:06:48] <Boohbah> edlou: Sorry, my mistake.
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158 [01:40:08] <nifker> So when I apt remove xterm I get gnome-terminal - when I remove gnome-terminal I get xterm
159 [01:40:12] <nifker> how can I remove both?
160 [01:40:17] <nifker> I use alacritty
161 [01:41:01] <nifker> i.e. apt then install the other package
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165 [01:43:16] <nifker> how can I forcefully remove a package?
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220 [02:27:56] <JustTheDoctor> is there a way to download from mega.nz in linux command line?
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222 [02:30:08] <JustTheDoctor> nvm figured it out
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228 [02:31:53] <eggbean> What version of openssh does debian 10 have?
229 [02:33:07] <eggbean> $ ssh -V ?
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233 [02:34:28] <jh001_> ssh -V
234 [02:34:30] <jh001_> OpenSSH_7.9p1 Debian-10+deb10u2, OpenSSL 1.1.1d 10 Sep 2019
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251 [02:49:14] <taserface> hi, quick question
252 [02:49:23] <taserface> are mini.iso's meant to be GPG verifiable?
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254 [02:51:00] <somiaj> Isn't there a checksum in the directory with the .iso?
255 [02:51:28] <somiaj> replaced-url
256 [02:51:53] <taserface> can't see a SHA256SUMS.sign or whatever
257 [02:51:55] <taserface> just SHA256SUMS
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259 [02:54:34] <somiaj> hmm, not sure why there isn't one for the mini.iso
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281 [03:07:47] <eggbean> jh001_: cheers
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287 [03:08:56] <taserface> on a related note
288 [03:08:58] <taserface> fuck intel
289 [03:09:33] <Boohbah> taserface: The market has spoken. AMD aiming for 10% share by Q4.
290 [03:10:00] <eggbean> Apple may move to ARM
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293 [03:10:14] <taserface> 10%? is that real?
294 [03:10:44] <Boohbah> taserface: Yes.
295 [03:10:56] <taserface> doesn't ARM have special hidden CPUs too?
296 [03:11:09] <eggbean> ??
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300 [03:14:06] <taserface> you know, like IME
301 [03:14:10] <taserface> or whatever AMD has
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303 [03:14:48] <annadane> PSP?
304 [03:14:54] <annadane> or um...
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306 [03:15:08] <annadane> yeah PSP
307 [03:15:24] <annadane> AMD anyway, no idea about ARM
308 [03:15:40] <Boohbah> Playstation portable.
309 [03:15:55] <Boohbah> Platform-security processor.
310 [03:16:15] <Boohbah> An ambedded ARM CPU inside your x86.
311 [03:16:41] <eggbean> Oh, you mean Intel vPro etc
312 [03:16:57] <annadane> but yeah, as far as intel goes the security flaws just keep coming
313 [03:17:01] <eggbean> that useful for enterprise
314 [03:17:11] <annadane> i have an intel processor and an nvidia graphics card, the worst of all worlds
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316 [03:18:35] <taserface> remember when infecting the firmware in your PC was actually physically impossible
317 [03:18:41] <taserface> those were the days
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320 [03:20:43] <Boohbah> taserface: 1990s, before flash memory?
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339 [03:34:16] <taserface> yeah that
340 [03:34:59] <taserface> more like, when they started enabling the flash memory to be written by the software running on the machine
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349 [03:44:00] <eggbean> taserface: In the early days you wipe the memory on EEPROMs with UV light
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361 [03:52:22] <blammotheclown> is there a bunsenlabs specific channel here?
362 [03:53:39] <eggbean> Are they even going anymore? I thought that distro was dead. Something++
363 [03:54:29] <blammotheclown> Nah it's still goin. I'm on it right now.
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365 [03:55:50] <annadane> !bunsenlabs
366 [03:55:50] <dpkg> BunsenLabs Linux is a community continuation of <crunchbang> that features the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. replaced-url
367 [03:56:24] <annadane> openbox would be better if it didn't have such a silly syntax to edit keybindings
368 [03:56:28] <annadane> to each their own
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370 [03:57:43] <blammotheclown> #bunsenlabs :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with service
371 [03:57:53] <annadane> then register your nick
372 [03:58:05] <annadane> or you can maybe ask in ##linux and see if anyone's familiar with bunsenlabs
373 [03:58:05] <blammotheclown> I haven't been on IRC in 20 years. I'm rusty. So, I haven't got the email yet... i have registered
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375 [03:58:31] <tinfoil-hat> Hey @ll, I wonder how I would go about naming my VPS properly, so that I can "ssh user@subdomain.domain.tld" or have a correct named sendmail etc. I never bothered thinking of it until now
376 [03:58:41] <annadane> blammotheclown, may wish to ask #freenode
377 [03:58:53] <blammotheclown> k
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380 [03:59:23] <tinfoil-hat> It has to sth like /etc/host or /etc/hosts, is that all? what type of DNS record should I set up?
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382 [04:02:17] <eggbean> tinfoil-hat: hostnamectl
383 [04:02:55] <tinfoil-hat> eggbean: thank you, do you know about dns records, I would have to set?
384 [04:03:16] <eggbean> yes, of course you would need an A record set
385 [04:03:51] <eggbean> host.domain.tld
386 [04:04:29] <tinfoil-hat> that's all? just an A record? I thought maybe it needs a special srv record, I am not really experienced with DNS
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388 [04:05:24] <eggbean> Just an A record. You can set an SSFP record as well, if you want to be fancy, but that is relatively advanced stuff
389 [04:06:11] <eggbean> sshfp, i meant
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391 [04:06:37] <tinfoil-hat> I would have to dig up what SSHFP is, thank you for pointing me in the right direction!
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395 [04:09:33] <eggbean> I wouldn't concern yourself with sshfp, as you need to know quite a lot more about ssh and dnssec etc
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397 [04:09:58] <eggbean> ..for now
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401 [04:15:37] <tds> tinfoil-hat / eggbean: don't forget your aaaa record for ipv6 as well :)
402 [04:16:27] <eggbean> tds: ha, oh yeah. Have to say I have not touched IPv6. Sort of avoided it do far, I'm sorry to say
403 [04:16:37] <eggbean> so
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405 [04:17:57] <eggbean> I tried doing this certificate for it by hurricane electric 11 years ago, when I was doing my ccna and got so confused it put me off
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425 [04:48:52] <wlxmhls> Hello guys, I removed some packages some days ago. Now the system settings missing. How to get it back ? My box is Debian 10
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427 [04:50:29] <Boohbah> wlxmhls: Restore backups.
428 [04:53:18] <saptech> wlxmhls, reinstall the pkgs you removed
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431 [04:54:30] <saptech> reinstall one at a time until you figure which one added system settings again
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439 [04:59:13] <wlxmhls> Thanks, I have no backups done. But I just googled out, and install gnome-control-center worked.
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460 [05:38:36] <DarkiJah2> Hello
461 [05:38:57] <DarkiJah2> I guess it looks okay, I think I'll try some of the other themes.
462 [05:39:14] <DarkiJah2> looks pretty cool with the green in the beginning but... naa I think I need the black :)
463 [05:39:23] <DarkiJah2> I'm trying out Kiwi
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465 [05:40:09] <annadane> GNOME?
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468 [05:41:34] <DarkiJah2> Gnome?... no... from windows.
469 [05:43:02] <annadane> what?
470 [05:43:23] <annadane> is this windows subsystem for linux or whatever it's called?
471 [05:43:24] <taserface> is there any debian desktop that will run on a system with 512M of ram and without a swapfile?
472 [05:44:51] <DarkiJah2> Crunchbang++ and the other one was very low in Ram if my memory serves.
473 [05:44:58] <DarkiJah2> brb
474 [05:45:50] <DarkiJah2> MX Linux was also lightweight :)
475 [05:46:31] <DarkiJah2> That was the 2 best options I found for my old computer. Surprisingly MX Linux seemed somewhat smother then Crunchbang++
476 [05:46:46] <DarkiJah2> Although I'm not sure MX Linux is Debian based by the way...
477 [05:46:54] <DarkiJah2> but CrunchBang++ is :)
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480 [05:50:39] <taserface> remember when 512m was a shitload of memory
481 [05:52:00] <DarkiJah2> I can't even remember how much I have in my old one - but Crunchbang and MX Linux where the best choices.
482 [05:52:09] <DarkiJah2> not much.
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491 [06:05:49] <Ede|Popede> taserface: by far my biggest consumer is firefox. then long time nothing. then (no idea why) atm iBus. then long time nothing. then Xorg. running xfce btw. desktop/panel/wm needing around 60 MB as per htop.
492 [06:06:33] * annadane likes xfce but it can be a tad ugly
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494 [06:10:06] <Ede|Popede> i don't see too much of it. just a short panel and well, window decorations. mostly title bar.
495 [06:10:07] <epony> an ugly DE, improbable, they are all so bootiefull replaced-url
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497 [06:10:40] <epony> that's why I don't use a DE, just a WM without ANY decoration
498 [06:11:45] <annadane> i find DEs do a better job of fulfilling certain functions automagically
499 [06:11:50] <annadane> you have to do more yourself with a WM
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502 [06:12:27] <epony> yeah, because I have more of my computer left to me
503 [06:12:32] <epony> so I can do more ;-)
504 [06:12:40] <annadane> oh for sure, to each their own
505 [06:12:41] <epony> like not crash and not lose work
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507 [06:13:08] <Ede|Popede> switched to kde long ago, using a wm only was a lot of work in one way or the other. not sure if there was even a standard for application menus back then.
508 [06:14:24] <epony> There were not even DEs back then.. but some TK and CDE stuff, it sucked then, sucks the same way today.
509 [06:15:53] <Ede|Popede> hm. menu. some starters. workplace switcher. tray. calendarclock. open windows.
510 [06:17:04] <Ede|Popede> menu button isn't really needed, assign a key, open every where. same for calendar if interaction needed. always visible clock with optional calendar could be as well stay on the desktop.
511 [06:17:42] <epony> no menu here, and no starters, and no switcher/desktop/window pager.. yes tray (short), xclock, and several custom made widgets (text mode)
512 [06:18:06] <epony> yes, clock and tray
513 [06:18:07] <Ede|Popede> iirc my last wm before kde was fvwm95, being used to the design from redmond.
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515 [06:19:54] <Ede|Popede> can't work with transparency at all, i want a stable background for my text. so not even compositor.
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518 [06:21:18] <Ede|Popede> the good thing: it saves cpu.
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546 [06:37:48] <ryouma> i keep forgetting what des do that wms don't that i would ever need
547 [06:38:13] <ryouma> i think nothing, except they make me have to add a line in my .xinitrc or someting ever few years
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845 [10:00:38] <NetTerminalGene> my debian can't update repo (can't connect) this replaced-url
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851 [10:02:06] <NetTerminalGene> nevermind. it works now!
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853 [10:02:58] <NetTerminalGene> ,v firefox-esr
854 [10:02:59] <judd> Package: firefox-esr on amd64 -- jessie: 52.8.1esr-1~deb8u1; stretch-updates: 60.6.3esr-1~deb9u1; stretch: 68.4.1esr-1~deb9u1; buster: 68.4.1esr-1~deb10u1; jessie-security: 68.5.0esr-1~deb8u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 68.5.0esr-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 68.5.0esr-1~deb9u1; buster-proposed-updates: 68.5.0esr-1~deb10u1; buster-security: 68.5.0esr-1~deb10u1; bullseye:
855 [10:03:00] <judd> 68.5.0esr-1+b1; sid: 68.5.0esr-1+b1
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858 [10:03:50] <NetTerminalGene> this can't be acceptable
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863 [10:05:52] <jm_> what and why isn't acceptable?
864 [10:06:43] <NetTerminalGene> 68.6 released yesterday
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911 [10:33:13] <f8e3> how to install 'usermod' ?
912 [10:33:18] <f8e3> -bash: usermod: command not found
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916 [10:35:27] <ksk> !buster su
917 [10:35:27] <dpkg> In buster, su no longer overrides PATH by default, requiring that you use "su -" or "su -l" for login shells (which is not really a new thing at all...). To approximate the previous behaviour, put "ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes" in /etc/login.defs. See replaced-url
918 [10:35:31] <ksk> f8e3: ^
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966 [11:18:21] <Guest2525> hmmm
967 [11:18:24] <Guest2525> Well
968 [11:18:28] <Guest2525> that seemed a little better
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1005 [11:57:56] <Regor> i dont get offline docs on F1 it only redirects to online documentation . what packages i am missing in buster ?
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1012 [12:02:31] <joepublic> Do you have a little clearer definition of "it"?
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1014 [12:03:22] <joepublic> "In ___________________________ (fill in name of some software), I pressed F1 expecting help documentation, but got sent to a website instead" for example
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1021 [12:05:55] <allizom> joepublic: you're asking for help with software you're not even naming
1022 [12:06:12] <joepublic> That is in fact not the case.
1023 [12:06:42] <allizom> oh sorry
1024 [12:06:58] <allizom> Regor: so what?
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1027 [12:07:39] <joepublic> :)
1028 [12:08:08] <Regor> F1 key = it . on any application joepublic
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1034 [12:11:12] <Regor> its xfce
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1085 [12:57:16] <jelly> Regor: I suspect each app manages what F1 means on its own
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1087 [12:57:29] <Regor> yes..
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1092 [13:00:48] <Regor> i just checked with all applications ... i dont get help in xfce appllcations only.. rhythmbox gives it nicely ..
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1098 [13:03:46] <Regor> so something messy with xfce docs.,. i installed minimum base ..so there might be some missing package related with docs .
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1120 [13:16:45] <xpheres> hello, I can't make mariadb-server work and I followed all troubleshootings I found on internet
1121 [13:17:21] <xpheres> I get error "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)"
1122 [13:17:38] <xpheres> I removed and purged mariadb and installed it again and problem persist
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1126 [13:19:39] <daesu> What's the socket set to in /etc/my.cnf ?
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1128 [13:20:00] <daesu> Search for `socket=`
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1130 [13:20:30] <Akuw> hi
1131 [13:20:33] <xpheres> I already searched that line in my.cnf and I can not find it
1132 [13:20:42] <xpheres> there is no socket
1133 [13:20:49] <Akuw> yes, i configured local repo that is working for all packages
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1137 [13:21:42] <daesu> Does /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock exist ?
1138 [13:22:03] <xpheres> yes because I created it myself after following a troubleshooting
1139 [13:22:13] <section1> lol
1140 [13:22:23] <section1> should be in /etc/mysql/mariadb.conf.d/50-mysqld_safe.cnf
1141 [13:22:32] <jm_> try netstat -nap | grep LISTEN | grep mysql
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1143 [13:23:01] <section1> and /etc/mysql/mariadb.conf.d/50-server.cnf
1144 [13:23:17] <xpheres> jm no results
1145 [13:23:28] <jm_> xpheres: is the service running?
1146 [13:23:52] <daesu> xpheres: check for running sockets. `find / -type s`
1147 [13:23:53] <xpheres> status shows: Failed to start MariaDB 10.3.22 database
1148 [13:24:04] <section1> maybe can't start because of your socket creation
1149 [13:24:19] <jm_> that;s why then, check its journal
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1154 [13:25:50] <xpheres> journalctl does not show any info regarding mariadb
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1157 [13:26:20] <section1> xpheres, delete the socket that you create.
1158 [13:26:33] <jm_> journalctl -u mariadb.service
1159 [13:26:37] <section1> the try to start again the service
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1162 [13:27:23] <xpheres> section1 the socket file I created has dissapeared
1163 [13:27:28] <xpheres> I can not find it
1164 [13:27:31] <section1> ok
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1167 [13:27:44] <section1> check logs/journal
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1170 [13:28:58] <xpheres> I've lost connection
1171 [13:29:01] <xpheres> did I miss anything?
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1174 [13:29:10] <jm_> <section1> check logs/journal
1175 [13:29:32] <f8e4> when writing to an encrypted volume file on a removable medium, is the talk over the medium encrypted ?
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1177 [13:29:59] <f8e4> since the encrypt happends cpu side so the device should not see it right, only random bits
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1184 [13:34:16] <xpheres> replaced-url
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1188 [13:37:26] <section1> looks ok.and is raspbian not debian
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1192 [13:37:48] <section1> start it and check the service
1193 [13:37:52] <metbsd> there hasn't been any update for the last two weeks. is everything alright?
1194 [13:38:07] <metbsd> development team got infected by corona or what. lol
1195 [13:38:39] <section1> metbsd, i see some security updates this week
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1197 [13:38:43] <xpheres> sudo service mysql restart
1198 [13:38:43] <xpheres> Job for mariadb.service failed because the control process exited with error code.
1199 [13:39:20] <section1> xpheres, try only start. if it fails check the logs.
1200 [13:39:30] <xpheres> I'm going to paste the log now
1201 [13:39:40] <ksk> !nopaste
1202 [13:39:40] <dpkg> nopaste is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install libapp-nopaste-perl; nopaste /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | nopaste".
1203 [13:39:45] <ksk> !paste
1204 [13:39:45] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: replaced-url
1205 [13:40:14] <xpheres> ok dpkg, sorry
1206 [13:40:16] <xpheres> replaced-url
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1210 [13:42:03] <section1> the lines are cut-ed.
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1212 [13:42:41] <section1> i think that too get logged in /var/log/syslog
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1214 [13:42:59] <xpheres> let me check
1215 [13:43:20] <ksk> xpheres: nothing of interest in there. take a look at /var/log/mysql/mysql.err or so ;)
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1219 [13:44:22] <xpheres> ksk replaced-url
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1221 [13:45:23] <ksk> just clean startups and shutdowns in there, imho.
1222 [13:45:38] <section1> yeap
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1224 [13:45:48] <xpheres> reinstalling mysql does not solve the problem
1225 [13:45:49] <section1> and refused "logins"
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1228 [13:46:36] <xpheres> is there any way to delete all mysql configurations and start all over and install it clean?
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1230 [13:46:43] <ksk> what is the problem? "journalctl -e -u mysql" might help.
1231 [13:46:45] <section1> purge
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1234 [13:47:10] <xpheres> ksk no entries
1235 [13:47:29] <ksk> !confnew
1236 [13:47:29] <dpkg> [confnew] dpkg --force-confnew will force dpkg to overwrite any changes you have made to conffiles. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" reinstall <packagename>. See also <confmiss>.
1237 [13:47:40] <themill> xpheres: you need to be explicit about which packages you have tried reinstalling.
1238 [13:47:48] <xpheres> mariadb-server
1239 [13:48:09] <ksk> replace "mysql" in that journalctl command whith the name of the service ( you started earlier..)
1240 [13:48:12] <xpheres> dpkg I'm going to try that
1241 [13:48:12] <themill> it would most likely be mariadb-server-10.3
1242 [13:48:12] <dpkg> xpheres: I don't know, could you explain it?
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1246 [13:48:37] <ksk> xpheres: dpkg is just a bot to help us out with some faqtoids.
1247 [13:48:45] <xpheres> ah ok
1248 [13:48:51] <xpheres> anyway I think it's a good tip
1249 [13:48:52] <xpheres> let me try
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1251 [13:50:35] <jm_> your issue seems to be that something is shutting down mysql a few minutes after it starts OK
1252 [13:50:39] <jm_> but off now
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1257 [13:50:59] <xpheres> I gues
1258 [13:51:03] <xpheres> Iguess
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1260 [13:51:35] <section1> and check timestamps. to see if they are new logs or old logs.
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1273 [14:05:42] <forsal> hi
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1276 [14:06:18] <forsal> At first time I booted desktop with 2 monitors I could see something like that
1277 [14:06:20] <forsal> replaced-url
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1280 [14:07:01] <forsal> What's the shortcut to see that monitor settings ?
1281 [14:07:44] <forsal> "Switch to laptop screen" (but it was on desktop)
1282 [14:07:49] <forsal> replaced-url
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1285 [14:10:28] <Haohmaru> whut DE is that?
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1287 [14:12:22] <forsal> kde
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1305 [14:19:16] <Akuw> i configured a local repository, all is working fine, but one package giving problems
1306 [14:19:41] <Akuw> Depends: libccid (>= 1.4.1~) but it is not going to be installed
1307 [14:19:52] <Akuw> but that libccid is there
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1310 [14:20:23] <Akuw> "/srv/local-apt-repository/libccid_1.4.18-1_amd64.deb"
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1320 [14:24:13] <eypo> Hi, I'm trying to force fsck some ext4 partitions on boot and I'm just unable . I've set tune2fs parameters to force it, I've set fsck.mode=force fsck.repair=yes in /etc/default/grub GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX option, but no success
1321 [14:24:30] <eypo> any hint?
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1324 [14:25:10] <eypo> I just get 'warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended'
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1326 [14:26:09] <eypo> I've installed e2fsck-static and busybox-static and updated initramfs, but no luck
1327 [14:26:40] <nkuttler> !forcefsck
1328 [14:26:40] <dpkg> Include fsck.mode=force on the kernel command line to instruct your system to execute <fsck> on the next boot (on systemd installations). With sysvinit or older Debian releases, "touch /forcefsck". Useful for checking the root filesystem for errors (via /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh). Alternatively, supply the -F option to shutdown(8), or include "forcefsck" at the kernel command line.
1329 [14:26:56] <eypo> nkuttler, I already did that
1330 [14:27:03] <nkuttler> eypo: you did it on the command line?
1331 [14:27:36] <eypo> I set fsck.mode kernel option
1332 [14:27:37] <nkuttler> if you edit /etc/default/grub i think you have to rebuild the actual grub file... but i'm hazy on that
1333 [14:27:44] <eypo> I did it too
1334 [14:27:47] <eypo> update-grub
1335 [14:28:29] <eypo> I also tried shutdown -rF now
1336 [14:28:44] <nkuttler> can't you put it on the command line?
1337 [14:28:54] <nkuttler> dunno, i don't usually touch the grub config
1338 [14:28:56] * nkuttler shrugs
1339 [14:30:04] * eypo has some grub tweaking experience due to running most systems using ZFS on root
1340 [14:30:52] <eypo> I can't run fsck directly on command line because both partitions are already mounted (/boot and / )
1341 [14:31:05] <nkuttler> eypo: the *kernel* command line
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1343 [14:31:11] <eypo> yes
1344 [14:31:21] <nkuttler> eypo: nothing is mounted before the kernel is loaded
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1346 [14:31:42] <nkuttler> in grub you can hit "e" and edit the boot parameters
1347 [14:31:57] * nkuttler also thought zfs doesn't do fsck
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1350 [14:32:56] <eypo> including 'forcefsck' as kernel parameter didn't work
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1352 [14:33:25] <nkuttler> fsck.mode=force
1353 [14:33:44] <eypo> nkuttler, already did that, nope
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1355 [14:33:56] <nkuttler> you just said you added forcefsck
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1359 [14:34:13] <eypo> and previously I added fsck.mode=force
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1361 [14:34:37] <eypo> I've been stomping my head on this for the last three hors
1362 [14:34:40] <eypo> hours
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1369 [14:36:01] <rander2> hello
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1372 [14:36:27] <eypo> dammit
1373 [14:36:31] <eypo> I found it
1374 [14:36:42] <eypo> /etc/fstab
1375 [14:37:07] <rander2> fixmbr
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1378 [14:37:40] <eypo> UUID="xxxx" / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 0
1379 [14:37:43] <rander2> fixmbr
1380 [14:38:08] <jerry> hello all, i want to install a range extender hardwired to network and wifi to ip cam. problem is the subnet changes and i can't access the camera rtsp
1381 [14:38:09] <eypo> last number shouldn't be 0 to have the partition checked
1382 [14:38:21] <jerry> little help plz
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1384 [14:38:46] <rander2> to reinstall grub in chroot mode is written to give the command: mount /boot/efi
1385 [14:39:06] <jerry> there's no way to keep the extender on same subnet so i need to know what i can buy that will fix this issue
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1387 [14:39:12] <rander2> but it don't go, I haven't /boot/efi file or directory
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1391 [14:40:08] <eypo> nkuttler, thanks for your help. Sometimes just trying to explain a problem to someone let's you find the solution
1392 [14:40:19] <eypo> s/let's/lets
1393 [14:40:29] <nkuttler> eypo: you could get a rubber duck ;)
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1396 [14:41:43] <rander2> /grub/efi
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1399 [14:42:05] <rander2> /grub/efi depend if is present uefi in bios or no ?
1400 [14:43:28] <eypo> nkuttler, I have a tux plush, but he resigned
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1402 [14:44:58] <p8m> jerry: a network interface can have multiple ip addresses. Add another in the camera subnet?
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1410 [14:47:24] <eypo> jerry, sell that crappy range extender and get a proper access point
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1412 [14:48:04] <jerry> ok so the cam is 192.168.1.x but i need it to be on the local net of 192.168.0.x
1413 [14:48:27] <eypo> jerry, and disable dhcp server on the ap, set a sensible ip for it and let the ap bridge its wired and wifi interfaces
1414 [14:48:33] <jerry> eypo which access point will do? i don't want to ghet the wrong thing again
1415 [14:48:48] <jerry> dhcp is disabled
1416 [14:49:08] <eypo> any access point will do. Hint: it should have just one ethernet port
1417 [14:49:33] <jerry> cool i'll go see what staples and best buy have
1418 [14:49:37] <rander2> is the directory /sys/firmware/efi don't exist, mean that the system haven't uefi ?
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1420 [14:49:41] <rander2> if
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1422 [14:50:10] <eypo> jerry, i.e. I had a similar setup using tp-link wa801nd. I know it's old, just wifi-n, but you get the idea
1423 [14:50:55] <jerry> i bought 2 meco me-750-ac range extendeers thinking they would do but what crap
1424 [14:51:07] <rander2> eypo, I refer to debian not to tp-link wa801nd ap
1425 [14:51:37] <eypo> sorry for the offtopic
1426 [14:51:55] <rander2> I must reinstall grub in deb 10
1427 [14:52:05] <jerry> yea thanks, sorry to get off topic but didn't know where else to ask
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1455 [15:12:53] <ws2k3> which version of mysql-server was in debian 7 ? i cant seem to find a package list for debian 7
1456 [15:13:11] <greycat> mysql-server-5.5 - MySQL database server binaries and system database setup
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1476 [15:27:37] <_Fremen_> hello everyone
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1479 [15:28:58] <_Fremen_> I installed nvidia-driver and related pachages and it gave errors and when I restarted, it wont boot pass "Starting Terminate Plymouth boot Screen"
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1481 [15:29:44] <_Fremen_> Should I try to open console on grub and do "sudo apt install -f" and "dpkg --configure -a" or etc.?
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1488 [15:31:55] <greycat> you can't run apt and dpkg from grub
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1490 [15:33:03] <_Fremen_> greycat, so what should I do?
1491 [15:33:24] <greycat> Boot into Debian? How would I know... I don't know what you're trying to do yet.
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1493 [15:33:55] <_Fremen_> it does not boot as I said and recovery mod stucks at IPV6 configuration
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1495 [15:35:48] <zodd> _Fremen_, use a live USB/CD/DVD and read the logs. Then you will know what to avoid/take care of when reinstalling
1496 [15:35:56] <zodd> sounds like a fubared system
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1499 [15:37:07] <zodd> or if it can more or less boot, open a text console at F2 or something and fix things
1500 [15:37:56] <_Fremen_> ok I get text console
1501 [15:37:58] <greycat> "at F2" being shorthand for "press Ctrl-Alt-F2"
1502 [15:38:19] <_Fremen_> should I do "sudo apt install -f" and "dpkg --configure -a"
1503 [15:39:05] <greycat> that will only help if you believe there are unconfigured or partly-installed packages
1504 [15:39:21] <greycat> have you seen any evidence that this is the case?
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1507 [15:40:55] <KjetilK> I'm trying to install Buster on a Lenovo Yoga C940 (14”) Laptop (the most recent version with i7-1065G7), but when I get to the partitioner, it doesn't list the system disk
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1509 [15:41:14] <_Fremen_> dpkg: "error processing pachage kernel nvidia driver, returned error" etc.
1510 [15:41:14] <dpkg> _Fremen_: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request
1511 [15:41:45] <greycat> sounds like a good starting point
1512 [15:41:47] <KjetilK> any advice to figure out why it doesn't list the system disk?
1513 [15:42:02] <_Fremen_> I deleted the pachage and no more errors it seems?
1514 [15:42:10] <_Fremen_> both commands work correctly
1515 [15:42:13] <_Fremen_> rebooting now
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1517 [15:43:29] <zodd> KjetilK, check the thinkwiki site, maybe use a cutting edge liveCD/DVD/USB to see what interface/chipset and what drive are in play and search the web on that
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1522 [15:44:54] <KjetilK> zodd: OK, I'll look there
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1532 [15:57:33] <itacos> Hi, i'm looking for a state on build image tool in debian, there is a lot of tool (live-build, live-wrapper, debian-cd, simple-cdd, openstack-debian-images, fai-diskimage, ...) and is a bit confusing to choose the right tool ...
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1535 [15:58:36] <itacos> i want to build a custom live image for arm64 arch
1536 [15:59:10] <greycat> !debian-live
1537 [15:59:10] <dpkg> The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. NOT recommended for installing Debian. Live images are available from replaced-url
1538 [15:59:16] <greycat> they might know more about it
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1542 [16:00:39] <itacos> humm, i have try but nobody is in the chan
1543 [16:01:11] <KjetilK> So, it seems I may have a problem with the NVMe drive on the Lenovo Yoga, dmesg says "GPT:Primary header thinks Alt. header is not at the end of the dist."
1544 [16:01:25] <KjetilK> err, disk*
1545 [16:01:43] <greycat> There are 36 people in it, but I don't know whether any of them are active. The specialized channels will probably have a much slower pace.
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1547 [16:02:42] <itacos> greycat: oups wrong server sorry, thanks for your help
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1563 [16:10:36] <ca1ek> I'm having trouble with poor internet speeds on Debian.
1564 [16:11:51] <ca1ek> I have a 100/50 connection, on my phone via WiFi I get 30/1, on my PC with Debian via LAN I get 10/50
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1566 [16:13:08] <ca1ek> Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 06)
1567 [16:13:58] <deadmarshal> hi. i installed debian with xfce. xfce doesn't run when i login. what should i do?
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1570 [16:17:03] <allizom> ca1ek: do you have another host at your place to run iperf on?
1571 [16:18:26] <ca1ek> does it need to be ran on both ends? or is it some kind of magic?
1572 [16:18:32] <ca1ek> i can get my laptop set up
1573 [16:18:49] <ca1ek> yep, i'll get the laptop
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1575 [16:19:19] <ca1ek> i'm running testing btw
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1577 [16:19:36] <allizom> you have to run it on two hosts
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1587 [16:26:00] <ca1ek> huh
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1589 [16:26:19] <ca1ek> it's 100mbit/s, so it must be the routers fault
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1598 [16:29:30] <rander2> !grub
1599 [16:29:30] <dpkg> GNU GRUB 2 is a portable and powerful boot loader. Ask me about <grub config> and <grub default>. To reinstall, ask me about <fixmbr>. replaced-url
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1602 [16:30:04] <ca1ek> However, when I do a speedtest from my laptop I get 80/50
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1606 [16:32:26] <allizom> ca1ek: how are you conducting this test?
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1610 [16:33:15] <ca1ek_> I swapped the ports and now both devices work fine
1611 [16:33:27] <ca1ek_> it's weird since I've done that yesterday and it made no difference
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1616 [16:34:44] <rander2> it's possible broke a usb memory with dd if=/.....
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1619 [16:35:43] <rander2> I have a usb scandisk key and I can't delete the partitions
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1624 [16:38:36] <rander2> tried with fdisk , cfdisk, parted, but nothing , incredible it's a cruder blade 8G
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1629 [16:42:41] <zodd> KjetilK, I have had a similar issue some time ago. Solution was then to boot with a parted liveCD and wipe the disk and next to add a new partitiontable. However then you will loose windows rescue, systeminstall, etc partitions
1630 [16:42:42] <rander2> if the folder /boot/efi isn't present , the system isn't in uefi mode ?
1631 [16:42:54] <kaliuser888> hello
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1633 [16:42:58] <Janni> Hello.
1634 [16:43:00] <kaliuser888> helloervreynoe
1635 [16:43:05] <rander2> hi
1636 [16:43:10] <kaliuser888> 我是中国人
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1639 [16:43:42] <zodd> afaik that is not part of the English alphabet
1640 [16:43:58] <ayekat> I can only read the part that reads "chinese person", and I guess the answer is "not here"
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1642 [16:44:08] <JyZyXEL> rander2: more like if 'efibootmgr' fails, ..
1643 [16:44:12] <kaliuser888> i;m
1644 [16:44:14] <kaliuser888> back
1645 [16:44:26] <greycat> !kali
1646 [16:44:27] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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1648 [16:44:35] <annadane> they left
1649 [16:44:51] <greycat> they returned
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1651 [16:45:00] <annadane> i can't read
1652 [16:45:06] <rander2> JyZyXEL, what about 'efibootmgr ?
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1654 [16:47:07] <kaliuser888> so
1655 [16:47:19] <kaliuser888> you guys americans?
1656 [16:47:38] <Akuw> i have a special device that has a network interface, so because i dont know ip address i used wireshark to know ip, but i want to know if there is a comand to do the same
1657 [16:47:39] <kaliuser888> woshi zhonggr
1658 [16:47:41] <pasiz> most here are debians
1659 [16:47:50] <Ede|Popede> Nation of Debian
1660 [16:47:55] <greycat> We don't support Kali, and this is an English channel.
1661 [16:47:56] <joepublic> This is a world forum. The people live where each lives.
1662 [16:47:56] <kaliuser888> kali from debians bro
1663 [16:48:12] <joepublic> dpkg, tell kaliuser888 about based on debian
1664 [16:48:14] <pasiz> Akuw: with arp you could assign ip to mac
1665 [16:48:34] <Ede|Popede> still different. japanese was influenced by chinese, still... or try to get through europe with latin nowadays.
1666 [16:48:39] <pasiz> many network cameras use that method
1667 [16:48:46] <kaliuser888> xiaorib guiszi
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1669 [16:48:49] <kaliuser888> j
1670 [16:49:02] <kaliuser888> 不要把小日本鬼子和中国人相比
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1674 [16:49:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o greycat
1675 [16:49:15] <Ede|Popede> !cn
1676 [16:49:15] <dpkg> 如果您想要以中文得到 Debian 相關的協助，請加入 irc.debian.org 或 irc.oftc.net 上的 #dot 頻道，連線與加入頻道的方法請參閱 IRC 程式之相關說明，或於網路上搜尋。謝謝您的合作！- debian-chinese-big5@lists.debian.org/debian-chinese-gb@lists.debian.org
1677 [16:49:17] <kaliuser888> dont compare chinese and jaapnese pig
1678 [16:49:20] <zodd> kaliuser888, what is your goal? kick/ban?
1679 [16:49:22] <Ede|Popede> yea, looks similar
1680 [16:49:25] <rander2> if the folder /boot/efi don't exist the system are running without UEFI ?
1681 [16:49:38] <kaliuser888> chinese are great people
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1683 [16:49:41] <joepublic> if debian and kali are same-same, so are any two asian languages. you can't have it both ways.
1684 [16:49:47] <kaliuser888> jampnese are pig
1685 [16:49:52] <kaliuser888> they are pig
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1687 [16:49:59] *** greycat sets mode: +q kaliuser*!*@*
1688 [16:50:01] <Ede|Popede> you're but a racist, get lost
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1691 [16:50:53] <Haohmaru> * ChanServ sets mode: +o greycat ... <greycat_intensifies.gif>
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1694 [16:51:41] <Ede|Popede> Haohmaru: thanks. now i have to think of those endless running animes.
1695 [16:51:43] <rander2> chinese are full of corona virus
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1697 [16:52:32] <Haohmaru> i'm more scared to go to .au
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1699 [16:52:35] <Ede|Popede> actually sounds like some bored wanna be h4x0r kid in quarantine
1700 [16:52:52] <joepublic> I am pretty sure viruses don't check geographical boundaries before infecting. Similar to the reason "Doctors without Borders" exists.
1701 [16:53:24] <Haohmaru> viruses are more tolerant than us ;P~
1702 [16:53:38] <Haohmaru> they hug anyone
1703 [16:54:00] <Ede|Popede> that's our PC, Haohmaru. every culture and nation has to right to be topic of satire :)
1704 [16:54:06] <annadane> jesus christ
1705 [16:54:34] <pasiz> oh, is he on #debian right now?
1706 [16:54:35] <Haohmaru> santa claus
1707 [16:54:35] <annadane> 1) don't use kali linux as a desktop, it's not meant to be used that way, use something sane like debian 2) don't be racist in this channel
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1709 [16:54:52] <cstls> ty annadane
1710 [16:55:10] <greycat> 2a) don't be racist in any other channels, either
1711 [16:55:12] <cstls> someone kb these fools
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1713 [16:55:23] <Haohmaru> no need, they got muted
1714 [16:55:45] <greycat> I muted the one that was triggering the others, and I'm hoping the others just go back to their shadows.
1715 [16:56:02] * Haohmaru goes back to ze shadowz
1716 [16:56:21] * Ede|Popede returns to the vashta nerada
1717 [16:56:23] <pasiz> shadow is always good mechanism for passwd
1718 [16:56:27] <Haohmaru> hey, who turn off the lights here
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1720 [16:59:22] <ws2k3> which version of mysql-server was in debian 7 ? i cant seem to find a package list for debian 7
1721 [16:59:43] <greycat> so you have me on ignore? or you got disconnected before you saw my answer the last time this was asked?
1722 [17:00:00] <greycat> also, why can't YOU just do your own apt-cache search? that's all I did.
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1727 [17:00:50] <greycat> Just in case it was disconnection rather than you ignoring me: how to fish: apt-cache search --names-only mysql server
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1729 [17:01:26] <Ede|Popede> no disconnect i'd say → * [ws2k3] idle 00:01:23, signon: Wed Jun 26 23:02:54
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1733 [17:02:45] <ws2k3> greycat: i think it wont show the version for other version of the distro
1734 [17:02:46] <greycat> The two instances of the question appear identical, too. So they're just hitting uparrow + enter, or pasting the same question with the mouse, and not showing ANY signs that they spent the hour and a half between instances of the question using their own resources.
1735 [17:02:52] <ws2k3> im on debian 10
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1737 [17:03:10] <greycat> Well, you haven't ignored me? OK, then read the answer I gave after the first instance of the question.
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1740 [17:04:47] <Ede|Popede> ws2k3, did you look here? replaced-url
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1742 [17:05:35] <greycat> or they could try "/lastlog mysql" and see the answer that I gave, along with the two instances of their question, and various other chatter recently
1743 [17:05:52] <Ede|Popede> hell, for how long is 5.5 going on already?
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1784 [17:26:58] <rander2> how add a swap partition permanently ?
1785 [17:27:27] <greycat> create the partition, use mkswap to initialize it, put a line in /etc/fstab, and then use swapon to activate it
1786 [17:27:29] <rander2> am I edit /etc/fstab and add UUID of the partition?
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1790 [17:28:03] <rander2> I have the partition, but it don't start automatically
1791 [17:28:12] <greycat> UUID is the preferred way, yes, unless you want to use a label
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1793 [17:28:42] <rander2> how do I find the UUID , it's /dev/sda2
1794 [17:28:59] <Ede|Popede> in /dev/disk-by-uuid
1795 [17:29:04] <greycat> "sudo blkid" Is one way
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1799 [17:30:22] <rander2> blkid
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1824 [17:40:46] <Ede|Popede> rander2: why reboot? to activate the swap?
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1826 [17:41:31] <rander2> I installed another distribution near deb10, and UUID in deb10 is changed. It's possible that the other distribution changed the UUID ?
1827 [17:41:33] <greycat> to test that the fstab line is correct, presumably -- although that's why I said to use swapon AFTER the fstab line, because swapon will test whether the line is working
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1830 [17:41:51] <greycat> rander2: yes, it is.
1831 [17:42:11] <greycat> And Debian's installer will probably do the same thing, if you let it. I remember seeing posts about that on the mailing list.
1832 [17:42:20] <rander2> fstab is good, I rebooted and swap is on
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1834 [17:43:45] <rander2> the other distribution should not write on deb10 partition, it's strange
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1836 [17:44:12] <greycat> you'll have to take that up with them
1837 [17:44:46] <greycat> by the way, it's common to share a single swap partition across multiple Linux installations on the same machine
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1840 [17:46:07] <rander2> yes, usually more distribution share the same swap
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1844 [17:47:22] <greycat> In the Olden Days, when we used /dev/hda2 in fstab, it didn't matter if each installation overwrote the same swap partition, because they all found it by partition number -- but that's no longer viable.
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1846 [17:48:25] <ratrace> partlabel to the rescue!
1847 [17:48:35] <rander2> hda was the old pata hd controller
1848 [17:48:45] <greycat> I did say Olden.
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1851 [17:49:06] <pasiz> greycat: in 1996 that was good practice
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1855 [17:49:49] <jelly> rander2: uuid is a property of a formatted filesystem. In general other OSes should not touch filesystems that are not theirs, but who knows
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1858 [17:51:10] <rander2> that is if a filesystem is reformatted , the UUID change ?
1859 [17:51:16] <jelly> if you told the other distro to use the same partition for its swap, it stands to reason its installer might recreate the swap and in process the newly mkswap-ped signature would gain a different uuid
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1861 [17:51:23] <jelly> yes
1862 [17:52:16] <rander2> UUID is calculated or it's written in the formatted partition ?
1863 [17:52:21] <Ede|Popede> so partuuid would be safer for swap then?
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1865 [17:52:34] <rander2> I believed it were like a hash
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1867 [17:52:54] <rander2> as sha1 , md5 ...
1868 [17:53:23] <ratrace> I use partlabels.
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1870 [17:53:52] <Ede|Popede> rander2 replaced-url
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1872 [17:54:38] <greycat> Here's one thread on the subject, but I can't find Felix Miata's message that's being quoted. replaced-url
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1875 [17:55:15] <jelly> rander2: it's written down as part of the mkfs/mkswap
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1878 [17:56:01] <jelly> process. Some filesystems allow it to be changed at will (without touching anything else, without losing data)
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1883 [17:58:25] <rander2> ok, but UUID is written in the disk or it's calculated ?
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1887 [18:00:35] <jelly> generated and written, not calculated based on any other properties of the filesystem
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1892 [18:01:27] <jelly> there's a tool to generate those, uuidgen
1893 [18:02:09] <jelly> and if you ldd /sbin/mkswap you see it's using libuuid.so.1 for something
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1895 [18:02:18] <rander2> uuidgen generate a code every time it's started
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1897 [18:02:37] <ratrace> speaking of, anyone using swap atop luks atop raid md? seems like the initramfs support for that ordering (mdadm -> systemd-cryptsetup) isn't happening.
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1900 [18:03:31] <ratrace> in particular, I'm talking about systemd cryptsetup support for on-the-fly swap formatting on boot with a random key.
1901 [18:03:55] <jelly> I have swap on md, and swap on lvm on luks, but not swap on (lvm on) luks on md
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1903 [18:04:30] <ratrace> jelly: using crypttab with /dev/urandom for the key, and plain (non-luks) crypto?
1904 [18:05:00] <jelly> I like hibernation to work, no random keys for me
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1906 [18:05:43] <jelly> my / and /var and swap are all on top of the same luks
1907 [18:06:00] <Akuw> i configured a local repository, all is working fine, but one package giving problems
1908 [18:06:05] <Akuw> Depends: libccid (>= 1.4.1~) but it is not going to be installed
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1910 [18:06:22] <jelly> !bat
1911 [18:06:22] <dpkg> [Basic Apt* Troubleshooting]. To diagnose your problem, we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
1912 [18:06:25] <jelly> Akuw: ^
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1964 [18:27:22] <TRS-80> Good day, fine people!
1965 [18:27:49] <TRS-80> I should have probably reported this the other day when I came across it, but better late then never, I suppose...
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1967 [18:27:57] <TRS-80> replaced-url
1968 [18:28:13] <dob1> it's spam?
1969 [18:28:40] <dob1> I don't who can delete pastes here
1970 [18:28:51] <TRS-80> dob1: no, worse
1971 [18:29:32] <greycat> It claims to be child porn, and gives a .onion URL and a magnet: link.
1972 [18:29:51] <dob1> it should be removed
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1977 [18:32:33] <NetTerminalGene> do you guys configure trim or whatever for your ssd?
1978 [18:32:42] <NetTerminalGene> or you use stock
1979 [18:32:45] <NetTerminalGene> ?
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1986 [18:35:40] <annadane> i thought on buster you don't need to configure trim, or something
1987 [18:35:45] <annadane> i don't remember
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1993 [18:40:16] <jelly> I run fstrim when I remember, maybe every couple weeks-months
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1995 [18:41:25] <TRS-80> jelly: Are you on Debian or Windows XP? XD
1996 [18:41:54] <TRS-80> I kid, but, is that necessary in 2020?
1997 [18:42:01] <annadane> there's fstrim.service you can enable, i think
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1999 [18:42:28] <annadane> trying to remember where this is documented, maybe the wiki page for NewInBuster
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2001 [18:42:59] <annadane> or indeed the wiki page for ssdoptimization
2002 [18:43:00] <jelly> TRS-80: this system does not have all the settings that come with Debian 10 by default
2003 [18:44:26] <annadane> replaced-url
2004 [18:44:34] <TRS-80> jelly: Aah, thanks for clarification.
2005 [18:44:41] <fleursdu> i've never done anything to the ssd for any linux installs
2006 [18:45:23] <TRS-80> Forbidden <p>You are not allowed to access this!</p>
2007 [18:45:59] <TRS-80> Since we are in #debiam, I been meaning to point out the fact that Debian Wiki seems to always block VPNs (well, at least PIA)...
2008 [18:46:15] <TRS-80> s/#debiam/#debian
2009 [18:46:19] <jelly> the wiki forbids access from some vpn services due to abuse
2010 [18:46:38] <fleursdu> TRS-80: change you exit port ?
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2012 [18:46:50] <TRS-80> I mean, I just go to another proxy, but still, it's just an annoyance (and not very freedom respecting)
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2014 [18:47:18] <greycat> You know what else is not freedom-respecting? Spammers.
2015 [18:47:23] <fleursdu> TRS-80: try it on tor probably worse
2016 [18:47:52] <jelly> the wiki is conspicuously absent from the list of services available via Tor, to replaced-url
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2018 [18:48:05] <TRS-80> greycat: I get it, it's a balance / challenge. That's why I don't raise the issue before. But I just happened to be in here right now, so...
2019 [18:48:19] <greycat> Granted, I do not know why the wiki admins chose to block READ access instead of just write access from the compromised IPs, but maybe they had good reasons. Like runaway spider bots or something.
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2021 [18:49:20] <TRS-80> greycat: my thoughts exactly, on both counts
2022 [18:49:22] <fleursdu> TRS-80: PIA is kind of the cheapo vpn isp , fwiw
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2024 [18:49:46] <TRS-80> fleursdu: Yes that is one of reasons why I like them. :)
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2026 [18:50:15] <jelly> they also own and manage freenode, so however cheap they may be, some of their stuff seems to work well
2027 [18:50:57] <TRS-80> jelly: yeah I noticed they put quite a bit back into various F/LOSS projects, which is nice
2028 [18:51:41] <jelly> okay, freenode pages say it's managed by volunteers
2029 [18:51:42] <TRS-80> fleursdu: also they do not keep logs (proven in court) and accept gift cards as payment (which can be easily bought anywhere for cash)
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2031 [18:52:49] <annadane> PIA is sort of something i treat as toxic refuse given the general aura of paid articles/promotions and the fact VPN companies can be relatively dishonest
2032 [18:52:59] <annadane> i don't think they're necessarily untrustworthy, but still
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2034 [18:54:33] <fleursdu> anyway not the #channel for vpn nonsense
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2037 [18:55:04] <TRS-80> annadane: that just seems to me the nature of the whole market of researching / shopping for VPN though
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2040 [18:56:10] <annadane> offtopic but i may as well drop replaced-url
2041 [18:56:17] <annadane> and now, back to debian stuff
2042 [18:57:14] <annadane> like me failing to answer SSD questions. :P
2043 [18:58:42] <TRS-80> annadane: at one point I read and researched this quite a lot, and I was convinced by PIA juristiction arguments
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2045 [18:59:28] <annadane> oh for sure, you can make your own judgements, just that the average person doesn't really know about some of the shadier aspects of VPN comparisons generally
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2049 [19:02:52] <annadane> (btw "proven in court, no logs" is actually a good and valuable and legitimate piece of evidence)
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2053 [19:04:20] <fleursdu> the intel world has a lot of money to launder into encryption
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2055 [19:05:50] <jelly> annadane: this is precisely why I trust my ISP's dns servers... I know there are no logs.
2056 [19:07:14] <dvs> or there's replaced-url
2057 [19:07:51] <netmk> "trust ISP.. no logs." okay.
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2069 [19:13:40] <zerocool> friends i have a question. using apt-mirror, there is one URL that gives me 404 '/debian buster-backports/main Translation-en' anyone know what i need to link where to solve this?
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2072 [19:13:53] <greycat> !buster-backports
2073 [19:13:53] <dpkg> Some packages intended for Bullseye (Debian 11) but recompiled for use with Buster (Debian 10) can be found in the buster-backports repository. See replaced-url
2074 [19:14:02] <greycat> make sure you actually read the Instructions page
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2078 [19:17:35] <jelly> netmk: of course. The trick is to be employed at the ISP and admin those dns servers.
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2083 [19:21:34] <fleursdu> i'm thinking some older ssd never update their firmware after a certain point?
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2095 [19:28:47] <TRS-80> fleursdu: the implications that ssd/hdd still have proprietary closed firmware gives me the creeps
2096 [19:29:02] <TRS-80> it's one of the few closed areas left that I cannot do anything about
2097 [19:29:11] <TRS-80> (currently. anyway)
2098 [19:30:02] <ub3g33k> TRS-80: Model I, II, III, or IV? Or Coco?
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2100 [19:30:21] <ub3g33k> :P
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2124 [19:52:24] <benwright> I noticed occasional soft locking with a Ryzen 3950x on debian 5.2 but not 5.4. I know they improved support between 5.2 and 5.4 but does anyone know if there is a specific bug?
2125 [19:52:43] <benwright> (Numbering is kernel numbering not debian versioning)
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2127 [19:53:24] <greycat> benwright: the #debian-next channel on the other network might know more about the testing/unstable/experimental kernels
2128 [19:53:46] <Ede|Popede> benwright: this "36s lockup on CPU#" with system freezes? if so, i had it with wheezy at some point, disappeared with stretch
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2174 [20:36:22] <no_gravity> Looks like Debian10 has query cache enabled by default in MariaDB. In MySql the default is off these days, right?
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2176 [20:38:55] <lupulo> no_gravity, because the swap?
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2179 [20:39:39] <no_gravity> lupulo: What?
2180 [20:39:39] <lupulo> no_gravity, all system hadn't swap, didn't it?
2181 [20:39:49] <lupulo> for cache!¿
2182 [20:40:04] <no_gravity> Sorry, I don't know what you mean.
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2191 [20:51:25] <Ede|Popede> lupulo: that seems about DB caching, not related to swapping.
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2207 [20:58:24] <lupulo> Ede|Popede, but DB caching uses memory
2208 [20:58:39] <lupulo> like squid
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2211 [21:00:46] <lupulo> Ede|Popede, i speak about "Debian10 has query cache enabled by default in MariaDB. In MySql the default is off these days"
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2213 [21:01:28] <Ede|Popede> lupulo: yeah. your reference to swap is what irritates me
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2216 [21:03:25] <lupulo> Ede|Popede, but you could speak about the leak relationship between default config files in database and debian.
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2257 [21:42:56] <teclo-> hmmm... weird, a file in /etc/udev/rules.d/ worked very well on Debian 9.x but doesn't in Debian 10.x .... any idea what might be the reason why ?
2258 [21:43:44] <greycat> is it related to network interface naming?
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2261 [21:45:29] <teclo-> greycat: hmmm.... more or less... it causes the machine to shutdown when a particular USB key is inserted and removed
2262 [21:45:44] <teclo-> perhaps did the adressing of USB devices change from 9.x to 10.x ....
2263 [21:45:50] <greycat> so "no". well, then I don't know whether the interface name changes would be related.
2264 [21:46:19] <greycat> replaced-url
2265 [21:46:35] <teclo-> greycat: thank you gonna read that :)
2266 [21:47:49] <teclo-> ah, indeed, the change is for network devices, not usb devices
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2270 [21:51:35] <teclo-> I think /etc/udev/udev.conf has the default values, 5 commented stanzas
2271 [21:51:43] <teclo-> so everything is commented in udev.conf
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2274 [21:52:14] <An4l_xtrem_troll> Hi
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2276 [21:52:38] <An4l_xtrem_troll> I would like to know if i'm the only one to use netcat for copy paste text among computer.
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2278 [21:52:47] <An4l_xtrem_troll> Do I Ineed to see a doctor for this?
2279 [21:52:56] <greycat> Probably not the only one.
2280 [21:53:09] <An4l_xtrem_troll> greycat: MEOW MEOW
2281 [21:53:13] <teclo-> netcat for copy paste ?
2282 [21:53:20] <teclo-> Sounds odd
2283 [21:53:29] <teclo-> hum
2284 [21:53:32] <An4l_xtrem_troll> teclo-: yeah netcat -l on one side and netcat on the other side
2285 [21:53:44] <hmuller> What modifies /etc/adjtime?
2286 [21:53:45] <An4l_xtrem_troll> teclo-: what are you using to copy paste among your machines?
2287 [21:54:05] <teclo-> An4l_xtrem_troll: hmmm....
2288 [21:54:10] <teclo-> I don't remember it's late
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2291 [21:55:22] <An4l_xtrem_troll> teclo-: a proprietary software ? >< :////
2292 [21:55:35] <An4l_xtrem_troll> You re killing Tux if you do this !
2293 [21:55:39] <An4l_xtrem_troll> dont kill Tux
2294 [21:55:42] <An4l_xtrem_troll> please
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2296 [21:55:49] <teclo-> An4l_xtrem_troll: no, no proprietary software is being run
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2298 [21:55:55] <An4l_xtrem_troll> Slt Kevlar_Noir
2299 [21:56:02] <An4l_xtrem_troll> Kevlar_Noir: sava?
2300 [21:56:15] <An4l_xtrem_troll> teclo-: thanks, you saved Tux !
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2304 [21:57:34] <An4l_xtrem_troll> Can i test a python script here?
2305 [21:58:00] <joepublic> in a sane world that would be a "no, no need to ask, just no"
2306 [21:58:39] <An4l_xtrem_troll> dudes, did you try echo -e "1"; while $t; do for i in `seq 1 30`;do r="$[($RANDOM % 2)]";h="$[($RANDOM % 4)]";if [ $h -eq 1 ]; then v="0 $r";else v="1 $r";fi;v2="$v2 $v";done;echo -e $v2;v2="";done; ?
2307 [21:58:42] <An4l_xtrem_troll> its so cool
2308 [21:59:09] <An4l_xtrem_troll> joepublic: but we are not in a sane world there is Coronavirus.
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2310 [21:59:24] <An4l_xtrem_troll> Can Coronavirus infect my Debian Linux?
2311 [21:59:33] <greycat> An4l_xtrem_troll: enough. Stop now.
2312 [21:59:33] <teclo-> hum je crois bien qu'on a affaire à un abruti...
2313 [22:00:00] <An4l_xtrem_troll> No that's a real question
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2319 [22:01:05] <MateKrisz> Hi all
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2321 [22:02:27] <joepublic> H'lo
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2386 [23:10:28] <benlue> i have some trouble with my realtek nic, my upload is very slow (4MBit/s) Normal is 350MBits/s
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2390 [23:11:13] <benlue> after firmware-realtek driver install i get error while booting: replaced-url
2391 [23:11:26] <benlue> anyone idea?
2392 [23:12:07] <benlue> next question is, why i get an eth0 error if i have only enp3s0 dev?
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2403 [23:18:52] <[sr]> howdy
2404 [23:19:00] <[sr]> i saw a command once
2405 [23:19:09] <[sr]> that lieted all the installed php modules in the same line
2406 [23:19:17] <[sr]> useful for upgrading
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2408 [23:19:29] <[sr]> instead of typing them all by hand
2409 [23:19:42] <[sr]> anyone knows the name it?
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2424 [23:30:25] <giaco> I have a bunch of pcs with debian stable. Often I am in need to deploy to all of them (I'm using ansible for this) an updated version of a software that is outdated in stable repositories. So far I've been compiling a new version of the software on the "master/controller" machine - that's a debian stable too - and manually copy some files from the build folder (never making make install) to the destination
2425 [23:30:27] <giaco> machine. The more I go this path, the more I realize that this is not the right way to handle this. How would you improve this? Make custom .deb and create own repository? Use packages from testing? Else? Thanks
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2429 [23:31:39] <tds> giaco: what packages are these? buster-backports may be a good place to look first
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2446 [23:33:16] <giaco> tds: package is gpsd, it is 3.17 in stable 3.19 in backports. I need 3.20
2447 [23:33:20] <rock64> Is there a good way to use a newer xfce4 on buster without having to go to bullseye? I'm still new to Debian in general.
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2452 [23:34:08] <giaco> tds: but my request starts from this package, but it generally spreads to some other programs I've been manually installing with ansible
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2521 [23:46:24] <tds> giaco: backporting yourself would probably make the most sense then
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