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• 1[00:00:49] <smalltalk> thanks for the suggestion guys, I got the same content_filter line after smtp with proper whitespace
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• 3[00:01:01] <smalltalk> but seems like it wont work :(
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• 6[00:02:52] <karlpinc> !doesn't work
• 7[00:02:52] <dpkg> "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>.
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• 9[00:03:05] <Habbie> !sicco
• 10[00:03:05] <dpkg> Please ask sicco questions, questions that are Specific, Informative, Concise, Complete, and On-topic. Ask me about <research> and <cooperation in asking for help>.
• 11[00:03:16] <karlpinc> smalltalk: The first step is always to look in the logs.
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• 50[00:45:10] <Thr3ep0od> Hi guys
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• 54[00:46:46] <Thr3ep0od> I would like to know which storage is better between ISCSI / Glusterfs
• 55[00:47:10] <Thr3ep0od> I got into performance speed
• 56[00:50:26] <petn-randall> !best
• 57[00:50:27] <dpkg> Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis!
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• 213[03:49:11] <martian67> does anyone have a good recommendation for max files per directory under ext4
• 214[03:49:17] <martian67> how many are going to start giving me issues
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• 216[03:49:47] <nt80> i am also interested in this
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• 218[03:50:11] <martian67> hard to get a firm answer online, just a lot of "not too many"
• 219[03:50:15] <martian67> which is not helpful
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• 231[04:03:41] <martian67> seems the practical limit is around 10 million or so
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• 233[04:03:54] <martian67> but you will probly run out of inodes long before that
• 234[04:04:07] <martian67> and the shell really dosent like dealing with that many files (wildcards etc)
• 235[04:04:13] <martian67> so you have to use shit like find/xargs
• 236[04:04:40] <hatter__> martian67, replaced-url
• 237[04:05:00] <martian67> not useful
• 238[04:05:08] <martian67> that only discusses theoretical limits
• 239[04:05:22] <martian67> you will start eating shit well before you hit infinity
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• 251[04:26:11] <Guest1> high pippo's
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• 253[04:27:33] <Guest1> anyone kan answer if each kernel_modules comunicate with hispective dependency and kernel strictly
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• 293[05:09:19] <stealth1> HI
• 294[05:09:32] <stealth1> For security packages is there a metadata package I can install on a fresh Debian 10 install which installs all if not most security tools?
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• 308[05:23:16] <cyveris> stealth1: Given the massive number of packages that might be considered "security tools," the answer is in all likelihood "no."
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• 310[05:23:42] <cyveris> stealth1: It may be more advantageous to install the packages that you foresee as valuable/useful.
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• 313[05:24:36] <moaker_> hey guys, is there a way to change the color saturation on linux, any app made for that?
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• 317[05:26:26] <annadane> there's a securing debian manual (google it) but it may be several years old at this point
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• 368[06:36:29] <CarlFK> new strech box. apt install vim, cp my vimrc.local to /etc/vim/vimrc.local - it isn't 'taking'
• 369[06:37:00] <CarlFK> Im guessing it isnt this: if filereadable("/etc/vim/vimrc.local")
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• 374[06:38:07] <stealth1> permission issues?
• 375[06:38:54] <CarlFK> I guess. what perms does it need?
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• 390[06:59:44] <stealth1> @CarlFK, how about 600 perms?
• 391[06:59:51] <stealth1> chmod 600 <your file>
• 392[06:59:57] <stealth1> of course, sudo
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• 558[09:21:55] <Janni> Hello.
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• 561[09:23:00] <Janni> During boot-up there is a moment when the console screen resolution changes. Before everything is perfectly readable, afterwards fonts are tiny. Which package/script is responsible for this? How can I disable/modify that behaviour?
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• 565[09:27:16] <valdyn> Janni: Thats the default behaviour of the kernel drivers
• 566[09:28:01] <valdyn> Janni: you can probably change that in grub
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• 569[09:31:30] <valdyn> Janni: i dont have up to date advice for this the archlinux wiki seems to have decent guidance on how to set a bigger font
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• 591[09:57:12] <Janni> valdyn: Thanks!
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• 705[11:33:03] <ultrableacheddol> Goodbye to IRC.
• 706[11:33:17] <ultrableacheddol> Going to block it all with dnsmasq on my personal Debian 10 system.
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• 709[11:33:40] <ultrableacheddol> Getting rid of all crap sites.
• 710[11:33:57] <ultrableacheddol> Blocked the cancerous Reddit site.
• 711[11:34:03] <ultrableacheddol> and Google; searx
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• 713[11:34:14] <zamuro> Good for you. Why should we care?
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• 715[11:34:31] <ixz> ++chat
• 716[11:34:33] <ultrableacheddol> And this is why IRC fucking sucks.
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• 719[11:35:19] <ultrableacheddol> Bloody hexchat bypassed my block rule.
• 720[11:35:25] <ultrableacheddol> It went through irc.freenode.org
• 721[11:35:30] <ultrableacheddol> instead of chat.freenode.org
• 722[11:35:41] <ixz> try bitchx .. ?
• 723[11:35:57] <ixz> bitchx.sf.net the git tree
• 724[11:35:57] <ultrableacheddol> Okay, trying to reconnect now...
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• 730[11:43:16] <ratrace> guess all that bleach finally reached the brain...
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• 781[12:13:44] <oxek> can someone help me install FreeFileSync on debian? I downloaded the .tar.gz file from replaced-url
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• 792[12:19:12] <towo`> oxek, extract it, run it, where is the problem?
• 793[12:19:20] <ratrace> oxek: software not regularly packaged in debian is generally not supported here. It's also discouraged to install software from tarballs unless you know what you're doing.
• 794[12:19:42] <ratrace> if you overwrite a system lib or binary and break your debian.... you keep the pieces.
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• 796[12:20:04] <ixz> whats the question
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• 798[12:20:46] <towo`> ratrace, it's like a portable app, there is nothing which is overwriting anything in the system
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• 821[12:40:51] <oxek> ratrace: unfortunately most software I use is not packaged for debian
• 822[12:41:05] <oxek> towo`: where do I extract it to?
• 823[12:41:16] <oxek> just manually into /bin?
• 824[12:41:22] <oxek> or /usr/bin?
• 825[12:41:32] <towo`> no
• 826[12:41:43] <towo`> extract it in your home!
• 827[12:42:04] <towo`> run it from there
• 828[12:42:08] <oxek> I thought binaries are supposed to go elsewhere
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• 830[12:42:44] <towo`> oxek, if you know all better, do whatever you want
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• 832[12:43:02] <oxek> I don't know better, hence I am asking here
• 833[12:43:51] <oxek> so each user on the system has to put the same binary into their home folder?
• 834[12:43:59] <oxek> that sounds like a lot of duplication
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• 841[12:48:44] <c0rnelius> oxek - I'd go with /usr/local/bin
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• 845[12:50:06] <oxek> is there some standard that defines where 3rd party binaries should go in a linux system?
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• 847[12:50:25] <gvth> Hi; I have a text file in which I would like to replace any secluded newline character by a simple space character. Which means that when there are multiple successive newlines, I would like to keep them intact as multiple successive newlines without any conversion. I am very thankful for a command line to accomplish this. Thanks in advance.
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• 850[12:51:23] <towo`> oxek, you should avoid 3rd party binarys at all, but read @c0rnelius
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• 853[12:52:30] <oxek> towo`: not an option for me - most apps I use are not in debian repositories, despite being opensource under a free license
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• 880[13:19:13] <nevivurn> gvth: `tr '\n' ' '`
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• 884[13:23:06] <gvth> nevivurn: I think this does also convert multiple successive newline characters to space characters
• 885[13:23:13] <nevivurn> yup
• 886[13:23:27] <nevivurn> oh wait, I misread your question.
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• 890[13:27:42] <nevivurn> gvth: try `perl -0pe 's/([^\n])\n([^\n])/\1 \2/g'`
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• 892[13:29:10] <gvth> nevivurn: Where do I name the file on which to operate?
• 893[13:29:10] <nevivurn> You probably want look(ahead|behind)s, but I don't remember the syntax for those...
• 894[13:29:30] <nevivurn> it receives the file through stdin and prints it through stdout
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• 904[13:49:08] <gvth> nevivurn: thanks a lot! This works just the way I need it! A huge thanks for your patience with me, it was of great support :-)
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• 906[13:49:24] <nevivurn> np :)
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• 966[14:19:26] <cyveris> nevivurn: I'm pretty good with regexes, but that was impressive.
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• 968[14:20:08] <nevivurn> lol thanks.
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• 970[14:20:31] <ixz> which one
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• 973[14:21:03] <cyveris> ixz: Some type of multi-newline-matching shenanigans.
• 974[14:21:16] <ixz> can i see
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• 976[14:21:43] <cyveris> 07:27 <nevivurn> gvth: try `perl -0pe 's/([^\n])\n([^\n])/\1 \2/g'`
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• 978[14:22:12] <ixz> ah ok nothing for me, looks, conc'ing string together
• 979[14:22:35] <ixz> what tr \\n ' ' would do, or so
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• 981[14:23:01] <cyveris> Basically, it turns newlines into spaces, unless there are multiple consecutive newlines.
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• 1049[15:02:00] <no_gravity> Is there a way to have another way to define host-to-ip info to the os (the browser) then to write it into /etc/hosts?
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• 1051[15:02:54] <Habbie> no_gravity, run a dns resolver on localhost and put it in there
• 1052[15:03:07] <no_gravity> Habbie: Can I do that with "bind"?
• 1053[15:03:11] <Habbie> yes
• 1054[15:03:22] <Habbie> but dnsmasq might be easier
• 1055[15:04:04] <no_gravity> Is there an easy way via one of them to simply say "bind example.com to 127.0.0.1"?
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• 1057[15:04:27] <Habbie> no_gravity, i believe that is very easy in dnsmasq, you can just put it in dnsmasq.conf
• 1058[15:04:40] <ixz> djbdns has this easy config format
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• 1060[15:05:04] <ixz> however 'bind' would expand to bash'es key binder built-in
• 1061[15:05:14] <ixz> you need to have bind software installed, bindd maybe, i dunno how its named
• 1062[15:05:43] <Habbie> ,v bind9
• 1063[15:05:44] <judd> Package: bind9 on amd64 -- jessie: 1:9.9.5.dfsg-9+deb8u15; jessie-security: 1:9.9.5.dfsg-9+deb8u18; stretch: 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-12.3+deb9u5; stretch-security: 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-12.3+deb9u5; stretch-backports: 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5~bpo9+1; buster: 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1; bullseye: 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+b1; sid: 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+b1
• 1064[15:05:53] <ixz> .v djbdns
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• 1068[15:06:18] <Habbie> there's no djbdns in debian buster
• 1069[15:06:35] <dvs> judd: version djbdns
• 1070[15:06:37] <judd> No package named 'djbdns' was found in amd64.
• 1071[15:06:40] <dvs> nope
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• 1073[15:06:55] <ixz> yea it was there.. long ago
• 1074[15:06:58] <ixz> like xmms and bitchx
• 1075[15:06:59] <Habbie> yes
• 1076[15:07:04] <Habbie> i'm not sure why it's gone though
• 1077[15:07:09] <Habbie> ,v dbndns
• 1078[15:07:10] <judd> No package named 'dbndns' was found in amd64.
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• 1080[15:07:55] <ixz> tinydyndns - pop-before-dyndns service using djbdns
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• 1082[15:08:40] <sefto> hello everyone. I would like to ask regarding the xdg-screensaver suspend WINDOWID which apparently seems that is not working. The reponse is The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files but apparently with sudo(and it shouldnt) works.
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• 1084[15:08:57] <Habbie> anyway, to do it with djbdns would involve running two daemons, dnsmasq/bind/powerdns/knot can all do it in one
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• 1086[15:09:17] <sefto> I recently upgraded from stretch to buster and notice this behaviour
• 1087[15:09:26] <ixz> i ran always one and it worked
• 1088[15:09:32] <ixz> it was more like dns itself than a cache
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• 1090[15:09:39] <Habbie> ixz, yes, but you can't point resolv.conf at tinydns
• 1091[15:09:43] <Habbie> ixz, you'd need dnscache in between
• 1092[15:09:46] <ixz> ?
• 1093[15:10:01] <ixz> ah oh well i dunno resolv.conf i dont use it much
• 1094[15:10:08] <ixz> i used it for some domains i had
• 1095[15:10:14] <Habbie> you probably use resolv.conf all the time :)
• 1096[15:10:23] <Habbie> it's how processes on your machine find names
• 1097[15:10:28] <ixz> i dont
• 1098[15:10:32] <ixz> i have default there
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• 1101[15:11:42] <cyveris> ixz: It's a critical file for your system to function. You may not have done anything with it, but you use it constantly.
• 1102[15:11:55] <ixz> i had it linked to aliases of stuff, but thats all
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• 1104[15:12:03] <ixz> he other dude asked the question btw
• 1105[15:12:09] <ixz> how to resolve hosts else than resolv.conf
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• 1107[15:12:36] <Habbie> yes, no_gravity asked the question
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• 1113[15:15:58] <no_gravity> Maybe fiddling with the HOSTALIASES variable could be a solution.
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• 1117[15:17:34] <Habbie> huh, i did not know that
• 1118[15:17:38] <Habbie> might be nice yes
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• 1128[15:20:46] <no_gravity> From my first tests, Firefox seems to not care about HOSTALIASES :(
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• 1131[15:21:28] <Habbie> are you sure it's set for the firefox process?
• 1132[15:21:33] <Habbie> it is also possible firefox indeed ignores it
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• 1134[15:22:28] <no_gravity> Well, I did this:
• 1135[15:22:35] <no_gravity> export HOSTALIASES=$PWD/myaliases
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• 1137[15:22:40] <no_gravity> firefox
• 1138[15:22:47] <no_gravity> I would have thought that would work.
• 1139[15:22:49] <Habbie> right
• 1140[15:22:54] <Habbie> does it work with 'ping' if you do that?
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• 1144[15:23:40] <no_gravity> no
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• 1146[15:23:46] <Habbie> then the problem is not (yet) firefox
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• 1149[15:24:36] <no_gravity> Maybe HOSTALIASES is just a dream. I see posts by people on the net who say the same about trying it with curl: It does not work.
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• 1151[15:25:54] <Habbie> too bad
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• 1158[15:27:38] <no_gravity> Well, there was an attempt :) Thanks! Gotta go.
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• 1173[15:34:48] <Azrael_-> hi
• 1174[15:34:52] <sefto> does anyone have an idea regarding xdg-screensaver behaviour? It made apps suck caffeine and vlc to break
• 1175[15:35:30] <Azrael_-> i'm looking for a console mail client which can read/interpret the mail content from a mail. can you give me a hint?
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• 1177[15:36:11] <Azrael_-> *from a file
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• 1181[15:37:57] <Habbie> Azrael_-, mutt
• 1182[15:38:02] <Habbie> Azrael_-, mutt -f yourfile
• 1183[15:41:29] <Azrael_-> Habbie: just isntalled it. but if i do "mutt -f <myfile>" asks: /<homedir>/Mail doesn't exist. Should i create it? <-- here i tell "no" and then it just exits
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• 1185[15:41:57] <Azrael_-> i only get the information "<myfile> is no mailbox"
• 1186[15:41:59] <Habbie> hmm, then it doesn't understand your file i guess
• 1187[15:42:01] <Habbie> ah
• 1188[15:42:03] <Habbie> so what is it?
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• 1191[15:42:32] <Azrael_-> this is a mail server and the file is one email in a dovecot-folder (imap)
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• 1218[15:59:09] <uio> Hello. I can't get a JBL GO2 speaker to work via Bluetooth on my Debian 10 laptop. It works with an android telephone and with the same laptop booted under Windows 10. I've installed blueman and gnome-bluetooth and the bluetooth is not soft or hard blocked. Any ideas?
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• 1222[16:00:10] <Azrael_-> uio: already followed this tutorial? replaced-url
• 1223[16:00:19] <H2Q> hello, how can I make thumbnails resolve enough to be viewable? I tried with dconf-editor but couldn''t make them larger
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• 1228[16:03:21] <uio> Azrael_- Yep. IT didn't work: pulseaudio-module is not found.
• 1229[16:03:49] <uio> I don't get what could be going wrong. Are there some driver issues?
• 1230[16:04:22] <uio> The problem has to lie with Linux here because seeing as it works under Windows...
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• 1232[16:05:12] <uio> The speaker doesn't even show up. It's not detected....
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• 1241[16:12:54] <uio> Am I missing something obvious? How can I better describe the problem?
• 1242[16:14:29] <Azrael_-> sorry, can't help you further
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• 1248[16:16:16] <uio> Azrael_- No worries.
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• 1256[16:18:21] <OerHeks> uio, not pulseaudio-bluetooth, but tha package is pulseaudio-module-bluetooth
• 1257[16:19:15] <uio> OerHeks I installed that one, (the page Azrael_- cites both as needed) but no luck.
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• 1261[16:20:26] <OerHeks> service bluetooth restart perhaps?
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• 1268[16:21:34] <uio> OerHeks I tried service bluetooth restart to no avail.
• 1269[16:21:47] <OerHeks> oke, then i have no clue
• 1270[16:22:00] <OerHeks> no hardblock ..
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• 1274[16:23:55] <uio> OerHeks I need firmware I'm told in linux ##replaced-url
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• 1276[16:25:00] <OerHeks> for ubuntu, i find replaced-url
• 1277[16:26:36] <OerHeks> i thought that would be part of the firmware-nonfree package replaced-url
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• 1281[16:30:35] <uio> So there is no way to get BCM43142A0-0a5c-216d.hcd on debian from the official repos?
• 1282[16:31:04] <ixz> <ayecee> ah, a project to automate the process: replaced-url
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• 1284[16:31:52] <uio> ixz Right, there is no security issue with that? From outside official repos?
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• 1287[16:32:16] <ixz> i dunno
• 1288[16:32:19] <ixz> it was found by other on the net
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• 1295[16:37:28] <uio> If anyone knows how to get BCM43142A0-0a5c-216d.hcd from official repos do let me know!
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• 1339[16:56:29] <ixz> the current sid with experimental breaks gcc and such btw [bugreport]
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• 1346[16:59:00] <ixz> i mean g++, it would remove g++ g++-9 and g++-10, just saying
• 1347[16:59:13] <ixz> by libcrypt1, [eof]
• 1348[16:59:21] <petn-randall> ixz: experimental is expected to break things.
• 1349[16:59:44] <ixz> easy
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• 1351[17:00:05] <ixz> i just wish to report it somemwhere, without much efford, i dunno how mailing lists work or to access em nor wanna register
• 1352[17:00:52] <petn-randall> ixz: If something in experimental is broken, it doesn't need reporting, as this is expected. If a clean sid install is broken, you should report the issue with the package to the BTS.
• 1353[17:01:26] <ixz> its just experimental currently that the problem is, i wanna report it tho as i wanna continue using experimental dist-upgrade just not when its totally broken
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• 1355[17:01:45] * petn-randall facepalms.
• 1356[17:01:56] <ixz> i dunno that word sorry
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• 1358[17:02:04] <petn-randall> ixz: experimental is *known* broken software. That's why it's experiemental. And not in sid.
• 1359[17:02:29] <ixz> it usually works i can report
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• 1361[17:02:44] <petn-randall> !experimental
• 1362[17:02:44] <dpkg> experimental is the bleeding edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit/DANGEROUS/untrustworthy/etc for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does _not_ support experimental. For an actual description, see section 4.6.4.3 of the Developer's Reference. replaced-url
• 1363[17:03:16] <ixz> i wont go against you if my sys breaks, .. :)
• 1364[17:03:37] <petn-randall> ixz: maintainers upload a package to experimental when specific other people need to test it. It's known to be broken by them, so any bug report would only point out the obvious, and waste the maintainers time they could spend better elsewhere.
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• 1368[17:03:53] <ixz> ah well
• 1369[17:03:54] <ixz> :)
• 1370[17:04:29] <petn-randall> ixz: If it makes it broken into sid, you can report a bug, but usually the obvious bugs get fixed before going into sid.
• 1371[17:04:45] <ixz> kk
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• 1373[17:05:12] <petn-randall> ixz: I'd also advise against dist-upgrading to experimental, there's little point in that. It's better to upgrade specific packages if you're actually involved in the development process.
• 1374[17:05:30] <ixz> i just wanna max newest versions
• 1375[17:05:45] <ixz> which is not dist-upgrade but upgrade -t experimental, to be safe, more for more
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• 1377[17:06:13] <joepublic> 'newest' and 'safe' often conflict.
• 1378[17:06:15] <ixz> like 'why specific packages when i want no exceptions, excepts of course it wanna remove all of my packages'
• 1379[17:06:21] <ixz> i choose newest
• 1380[17:06:44] <ixz> i will also make an own compile-newest-git versions only distro, somerwhen, soon
• 1381[17:06:50] <ixz> cause, i need new versions not not
• 1382[17:06:51] <joepublic> *shrug* run sid. I run sid on this particular machine, no problems normally.
• 1383[17:07:04] <ixz> i do, + experiemntal
• 1384[17:07:13] <abrotman> you can't "run experimental"
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• 1386[17:07:24] <ixz> upgrading all packages to experimental makes me do so
• 1387[17:07:39] <abrotman> No
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• 1389[17:07:51] <ixz> besides experimental alone doesnt work yes
• 1390[17:07:55] <joepublic> experimental isn't a full distribution. it's a bag of problems to experiment with.
• 1391[17:08:07] <joepublic> hence the name.
• 1392[17:08:07] <ixz> but i got it along all other trees, stable + testing + unstable + experimental, thats what i do since 2002 or so
• 1393[17:08:17] <abrotman> Anyway, if you want to see if your bug is a bug in sid, you can experiment with it .. Otherwise, you get to keep the pieces .. Congratulations
• 1394[17:08:22] <petn-randall> ereplaced-url
• 1395[17:08:33] <joepublic> oh, well that makes sense. no stretch, jessie, wheezy sources?
• 1396[17:08:36] <petn-randall> Frankendebian deluxe
• 1397[17:08:58] <ixz> it went from last-update to now, beeing a problem, so it was in the last push
• 1398[17:09:08] <ixz> no such sources
• 1399[17:09:11] <forbid> why do you need bleeding edge software ixz
• 1400[17:09:12] <joepublic> imagine that.
• 1401[17:09:27] <ixz> i cant stand old software
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• 1403[17:09:31] <abrotman> ixz: again, if you can confirm the issue happens with just sid (use a VM or something), then file a bug ... otherwise, deal with it
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• 1405[17:09:55] <ixz> abrotman i dunno vms and stuff i might try chroot at most
• 1406[17:09:59] <abrotman> okay, good luck
• 1407[17:10:02] <ixz> but anyway i accept having no solution to it, as always
• 1408[17:10:10] <ixz> thanks :))
• 1409[17:11:43] * petn-randall considers uploading a broken libc6 to experimental to annoy ixz.
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• 1411[17:12:27] <ixz> hm :)
• 1412[17:12:38] <ixz> why annoy plz i be good open source coder
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• 1414[17:13:23] <uio> Does this look safe? replaced-url
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• 1417[17:13:47] <joepublic> uio, there is a compromise between "completely safe" and "it works" - pick your comfort level.
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• 1421[17:14:24] <abrotman> it looks old .. is it not already in the main line kernel?
• 1422[17:14:31] <uio> I need it to get bluetooth working...
• 1423[17:15:06] <uio> The script is super short: replaced-url
• 1424[17:16:30] <uio> abrotman I don't think so... Broadcom license issues I think...
• 1425[17:17:02] <uio> Not Debian, but same issue: replaced-url
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• 1427[17:18:17] <joepublic> I have a usb tinydongle that just works, no 'blobs' needed. perhaps that's a better solution, so you don't have to trust alien software
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• 1504[18:22:32] <discovered> I got a new wifi usb adapter Alfa awus036acm(Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter). I am not getting better signal strenght than the build in Wifi adapter Qualcomm Atheros AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express). Do I need to install additional driver?
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• 1507[18:23:27] <ixz> discovered look in dmesg for somem error or so
• 1508[18:23:52] <jhutchins> discovered: These things tend to be either it works or it doesn't. There don't tend to be performance improvements.
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• 1510[18:25:17] <LaurentDumont> It's probably also going to depend on the actual signal getting in.
• 1511[18:25:41] <LaurentDumont> You could compare to a phone at the same location.
• 1512[18:25:49] <LaurentDumont> And see if the values are somewhat the same.
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• 1516[18:28:03] <discovered> mt76x2u 3-1:1.0: firmware: failed to load mediatek/mt7662u_rom_patch.bin (-2)
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• 1518[18:28:11] <jhutchins> You can get signal analyser apps for androids.
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• 1520[18:28:28] <discovered> Perhaps i did not get the right firmware
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• 1523[18:29:40] <discovered> Is the firmware included in firmware-misc-nonfree ?
• 1524[18:30:04] <ixz> which one
• 1525[18:30:05] <jhutchins> !mediatek
• 1526[18:30:14] <ixz> git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git firmware-again
• 1527[18:30:20] <ixz> to get newest firmwares
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• 1530[18:32:59] <jhutchins> !broadcom
• 1531[18:32:59] <dpkg> Broadcom Corporation is an integrated circuits supplier. For wireless LAN chipset drivers, ask me about <b43>, <brcmsmac>, <rndis_wlan>, <wl>. For Ethernet controller support, ask me about <bnx2>, <bnx2x>, <tg3>.
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• 1533[18:33:38] <discovered> ixz, I just install install misc-nonfree. Should i remove it before compiling the latest sources?
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• 1535[18:33:47] <Robert_Lapoche> Broadcom develop psychotronic arms
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• 1538[18:33:56] <Robert_Lapoche> fuck boadcom
• 1539[18:33:57] <openbsdtai123> hello
• 1540[18:34:03] <ixz> discovered there is no compilation they are just firmware bin files and such
• 1541[18:34:21] <ixz> and no just cp -aup firmware-again/* /lib/firmware/
• 1542[18:34:34] <openbsdtai123> How to run Sauerbraten CUBE2 onto a RASPBERRY PI 3 model (RPI3b)? This is an ARM board (aarch64/armv7).
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• 1546[18:35:00] <ixz> you have to compile it yourself openbsdtai123
• 1547[18:35:33] <discovered> At first debian only detected the adapter after installing firmware-atheros. Is it required if i install the firmware manually?
• 1548[18:35:47] <ixz> no
• 1549[18:35:55] <ixz> you just copy new files or even the others too
• 1550[18:36:23] <discovered> Thank you! doing it
• 1551[18:36:29] <ixz> peace, good luck
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• 1556[18:37:36] <openbsdtai123> ixz: myself??? no idea
• 1557[18:37:55] <openbsdtai123> I can install retropie or raspbian if you want.
• 1558[18:37:58] <ixz> openbsdtai123 1. see if source is available
• 1559[18:38:02] <ixz> rest i can tell you
• 1560[18:38:08] <openbsdtai123> Is raspbian or debian offering on RPI3b the cube2, working?
• 1561[18:38:14] <openbsdtai123> apt-get install ...
• 1562[18:38:31] <ixz> i only do debian, now other bullshit sources
• 1563[18:38:35] <ixz> then more than just stable
• 1564[18:38:39] <ixz> then if it isnt there, compile it
• 1565[18:38:42] <ixz> if source avilable
• 1566[18:39:10] <ixz> you have to look at the pages
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• 1568[18:39:18] <ixz> for a 'source.tgz to compile yourself'
• 1569[18:39:32] <ixz> i think sauerbraten is opensource and my at least debian from years ago had it
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• 1571[18:39:39] <openbsdtai123> Since debian is popular, there is likely sbdy that did it for debian (a deb file) ..?=
• 1572[18:39:42] <ixz> so the arm deb might have it too
• 1573[18:40:06] <OerHeks> openbsdtai123, some guide.. replaced-url
• 1574[18:40:10] <ixz> sauerbraten - 3D first-person shooter game
• 1575[18:40:11] <ixz> sauerbraten-server - standalone server for the Sauerbraten game
• 1576[18:40:15] <ixz> no cube2 tho
• 1577[18:40:16] <discovered> downloading from kernel.org is too slow
• 1578[18:40:34] <ixz> its eorth
• 1579[18:41:48] <openbsdtai123> maybe testing for arm has it into contrib?
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• 1598[19:01:05] <bipul> Just asking , while making .deb files from source, is there any security check or pattern of string to find "harmful & unprodutive codes" in the source file ?
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• 1601[19:01:46] <ixz> bitdefender antivirus
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• 1604[19:01:57] <ixz> i mean, antivirus does that, not newbies like you or i
• 1605[19:02:29] <bipul> ixz, Antivirus works on signature.
• 1606[19:02:43] <ixz> yea but yea
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• 1608[19:03:07] <ixz> i meant, use antivirus2string db and grep for that
• 1609[19:03:37] <joepublic> might check that no pre/post scripts contain "rm -rf /"
• 1610[19:03:46] <bipul> Please name any antivirus that can be install on debian distro
• 1611[19:03:48] <ixz> endless such checks
• 1612[19:03:59] <ixz> i installed bitdefender always for some time
• 1613[19:03:59] <abrotman> clamav\
• 1614[19:04:02] <ixz> was no problem
• 1615[19:04:10] <joepublic> ,v clamav
• 1616[19:04:11] <judd> Package: clamav on amd64 -- jessie: 0.100.0+dfsg-0+deb8u1; stretch-updates: 0.100.3+dfsg-0+deb9u1; jessie-security: 0.101.4+dfsg-0+deb8u2; stretch: 0.101.4+dfsg-0+deb9u1; buster: 0.101.4+dfsg-0+deb10u1; bullseye: 0.102.1+dfsg-2; sid: 0.102.1+dfsg-2
• 1617[19:04:18] <ixz> whenever the free version or not, both worked, or i only had the free one, which worked
• 1618[19:04:49] <bipul> I don't trust anti virus. They 're itself a virus.
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• 1620[19:04:51] <ixz> but i found av useless and never used it again
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• 1622[19:05:17] <towo`> bipul, what's your problem?
• 1623[19:05:18] <joepublic> the why did you want one please named?
• 1624[19:05:20] <bipul> I trust my code.
• 1625[19:05:29] <ixz> yeah i suggest writing all by self
• 1626[19:05:35] <towo`> if you can't check the code, and don't trust the source, do not package it
• 1627[19:05:37] <ixz> i write web servers, mail servers, what not, in bash and gawk
• 1628[19:05:43] <ixz> cause i dont want bloat as postfix or apache
• 1629[19:06:10] <bipul> towo`, I'm just trying to customize my own Debian from scratch, but i would like to recheck all the packages and compile from the source
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• 1632[19:06:38] <joepublic> oh, it's you, sorry to have intruded.
• 1633[19:06:47] <bipul> But before compiling i must audit all the security checks.
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• 1635[19:07:07] <towo`> bipul, really, play elsewhere
• 1636[19:07:09] <ixz> good luck on your path
• 1637[19:08:01] <annadane> most anti viruses suck and are probably scams, but that's windows, and clamav itself is probably fine
• 1638[19:08:12] <annadane> though even clamav isn't truly necessary to run on linux systems afaik
• 1639[19:08:12] <bipul> okay.
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• 1641[19:08:19] <ixz> i was fan of bitdefender, as i said
• 1642[19:09:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1449
• 1643[19:09:05] <Ede|Popede> how big is the packaging team btw?
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• 1649[19:15:41] <bipul> replaced-url
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• 1652[19:17:05] <discovered> ixz, now it is showing mediatek wifi, signal also fine, but can't authenticate
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• 1655[19:17:22] <ixz> discovered
• 1656[19:17:38] <ixz> do you console no X ?
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• 1658[19:17:44] <discovered> X
• 1659[19:17:44] <ixz> or have a fancy wm with wlan manager
• 1660[19:18:05] <ixz> do you use a wlan mananger
• 1661[19:18:08] <ixz> or wpa_supplicant
• 1662[19:18:10] <ixz> or none_yet
• 1663[19:18:13] <jvwjgames> hello I'm having issues with Debian stopping at 85% due to a gpg key error how do I manually add the gpg
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• 1665[19:18:21] <discovered> none! just everything default
• 1666[19:18:26] <ixz> i have a script i given to someone for the same
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• 1668[19:18:39] <ixz> check this replaced-url
• 1669[19:18:51] <ixz> minimum is wpa_supplicant installed 'wpasupplicant' package
• 1670[19:18:52] <ksk> it is bad.
• 1671[19:19:07] <ksk> discovered: did you check replaced-url
• 1672[19:19:10] <ixz> it works for me and my minimal setup
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• 1675[19:19:29] <ixz> alternative is you install a bigger software like i dont remember, NetworkManager or some crap
• 1676[19:19:46] <ixz> if i do init=/bin/bash i can wlan fast with it, ..
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• 1680[19:20:18] <discovered> ksk, I am simply trying to connect to my wifi using network manager. I recently updated the firmware. But it can't activate the network.
• 1681[19:20:39] <abrotman> did it work before you updated firmware?
• 1682[19:20:45] <ixz> you said network manager
• 1683[19:20:47] <ixz> not none
• 1684[19:20:51] <ixz> er which now
• 1685[19:21:00] <ixz> wicd i used or what that was named
• 1686[19:21:04] <ixz> but i rather this_script
• 1687[19:21:09] <abrotman> !enter
• 1688[19:21:09] <dpkg> The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
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• 1690[19:21:26] <discovered> i am sorry ixz, I did not understand your question!
• 1691[19:21:42] <joepublic> see? difficult to follow
• 1692[19:21:43] <ixz> so you have a wlan manager, that displays your network ?
• 1693[19:21:51] <discovered> ksk, Yes, with other builtin card it can connect
• 1694[19:21:55] <discovered> ixz, yes
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• 1696[19:22:20] <ixz> ah well i can only say test raw wpa_supplicant like with my script
• 1697[19:22:23] <ixz> -> test <-
• 1698[19:22:42] <ixz> iwlist s; enter ssid and pass; trying..
• 1699[19:22:51] <ksk> I can only say dont. It would be helpful if you answered abrotman his question though.
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• 1706[19:24:16] <jvwjgames> anyone?
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• 1708[19:24:37] <abrotman> jvwjgames: stopping where?
• 1709[19:24:38] <joepublic> stopping at 85% of... what
• 1710[19:25:12] <discovered> I never seen such a ugly interface name: wlx00c0caaa9bea
• 1711[19:25:29] <jvwjgames> updating list of Available packages after it copies data to disk
• 1712[19:25:34] <ixz> lol!
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• 1714[19:25:49] <abrotman> jvwjgames: in the installer?
• 1715[19:25:52] <annadane> discovered, bless you
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• 1717[19:26:00] <jvwjgames> yes
• 1718[19:26:03] <discovered> :)
• 1719[19:26:05] <abrotman> jvwjgames: which installer are you using?
• 1720[19:26:09] <jvwjgames> it stops because of a gpg key error
• 1721[19:26:36] <jvwjgames> an installer off of Packet Fence
• 1722[19:26:37] <discovered> annadane, It scares me! come on!
• 1723[19:26:47] <abrotman> wtf is PacketFence?
• 1724[19:26:59] <jvwjgames> it's a network access controller
• 1725[19:27:39] <ixz> [newer kernels result in newer-interface-names]
• 1726[19:27:50] <ixz> i needed 5.4 to get my wlan working
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• 1728[19:28:14] <ixz> pre bullsye alpha1 installer it didnt boot at all
• 1729[19:28:26] <ixz> which used 5.3 and just 5.4 helped, but was fast
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• 1734[19:30:40] <jvwjgames> if someone can tell me how I can insert the .gpg key into the installer I can do it
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• 1737[19:31:57] <abrotman> jvwjgames: have you tried another mirror?
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• 1741[19:32:58] <ixz> whats the dpkg-check-all-files command
• 1742[19:33:22] <jvwjgames> it's a custom installer they make it so you don't have to select a mirror
• 1743[19:33:40] <abrotman> jvwjgames: so it's not Debian?
• 1744[19:33:49] <jvwjgames> like I said if I can just get into add gpg key I'll be fine
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• 1746[19:33:55] <jvwjgames> it is Debian
• 1747[19:34:11] <abrotman> not if it's a custom installer
• 1748[19:35:07] <abrotman> jvwjgames: for all we know, whatever they've done to it is why apt is freaking over GPG
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• 1750[19:35:54] <jvwjgames> oh ok I see
• 1751[19:36:22] <jvwjgames> also because it's their package the Debian installer is trying to install and it says it can't find it the gpg key
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• 1753[19:36:30] <jvwjgames> just wish there was a way to get past it
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• 1756[19:37:03] <abrotman> you can't try the normal Debian installer as an experiemnt?
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• 1758[19:37:42] <jvwjgames> I can
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• 1760[19:37:57] <jvwjgames> just don't see what I would have complish with that
• 1761[19:38:02] <ixz> you wanna install a debian chroot ?
• 1762[19:38:14] <abrotman> ixz: no, come on .. read ..
• 1763[19:38:19] <ixz> sorry
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• 1765[19:38:36] <ixz> ill go code up my bash gawk msg2fs irc client, bye
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• 1768[19:41:57] <joepublic> the packetfence folks offer the following advice: wget -O - replaced-url
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• 1770[19:42:03] <abrotman> jvwjgames: FWIW, there is a #packetfence
• 1771[19:43:29] <jvwjgames> joepublic thank you I know that I'm just trying to get it added to the installer
• 1772[19:43:51] <jvwjgames> abrotman thanks as well I will try therw
• 1773[19:43:55] <joepublic> ah! maybe I also should learn to read. sorry.
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• 1785[19:51:23] <annadane> no thanks
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• 1795[19:57:31] <FJDelgado> Hi! someone knox how to avoid some app icons to appear in system tray? (Debian + KDE Plasma)
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• 1797[19:58:27] <petn-randall> FJDelgado: Don't start the program?
• 1798[19:58:56] <FJDelgado> petn-randall, so funny...
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• 1800[19:59:17] <diogenes_> FJDelgado, afaik there is option to hide from systray.
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• 1803[20:00:18] <FJDelgado> diogenes_, but the app I want to hide from systray does not appear when editing systray, it's whatsdesk
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• 1805[20:00:50] <petn-randall> FJDelgado: Maybe you can tell the program in the settings to not spawn a notification.
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• 1809[20:02:08] <FJDelgado> petn-randall, well I wondered if there is some config text-file to change this settings as there is no option in the app and app icon doesn't appear on systray config options
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• 1811[20:03:19] <petn-randall> FJDelgado: I don't use KDE, but in xfce you can hide some of the icons by configuring the notification area. There probably is a similar option for KDE. Maybe there's a howto if you search with the right keywords.
• 1812[20:03:21] <FJDelgado> not really a big problem, just trying to change this for learning
• 1813[20:03:59] <FJDelgado> petn-randall, well... I'll try again searching
• 1814[20:04:10] <FJDelgado> thx!
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• 1816[20:05:33] <diogenes_> FJDelgado, if you absolutely don't want the icon then start that app in a different workspace.
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• 1872[20:47:16] <Guest36> its good to go: exokernel -> nano -> bootloader -> nucleo hibrido
• 1873[20:47:53] <Guest36> dc -> acooptors spec
• 1874[20:48:33] <Guest36> exokl -> nano -> bootloader -> nucleo hibrido
• 1875[20:50:48] <Guest36> exokl -> nano(switchchange) -> bootloader -> nucleo hibrido
• 1876[20:51:40] <Guest36> dc assimetic
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• 1878[20:52:25] <Guest36> mooba moca
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• 1880[20:53:26] <Guest36> dc assimetic <(-0-)> ac sinergy
• 1881[20:53:46] <Guest36> aC
• 1882[20:54:23] <Guest36> tell vanilla workout team
• 1883[20:54:27] <ixz> any for me understandable ?
• 1884[20:55:11] <Guest36> read andrews guide book
• 1885[20:55:20] <Guest36> *minix
• 1886[20:55:44] <Guest36> give a try
• 1887[20:56:10] <petn-randall> Guest36: Do you have a Debian support question?
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• 1889[20:57:01] <petn-randall> Guest36: Whatever you wrote, that didn't make any sense to me.
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• 1892[20:58:45] <Guest36> petn-randall u should do great hud coop without loosing linux kernel workout
• 1893[20:59:05] <Guest36> *hurd
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• 1896[21:00:23] <Guest36> petn-randall nanoparadigma(workflow) -> bootloader -> hurd + linux
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• 1901[21:03:44] <discovered> ixz, fixed the problem!
• 1902[21:03:54] <ixz> kuul, what was it
• 1903[21:04:14] <discovered> the ugly network name what scared me lol
• 1904[21:04:28] <ixz> ah well
• 1905[21:04:32] <discovered> ln -s /dev/null /etc/systemd/network/99-default.link .... fixed it
• 1906[21:04:49] <ixz> lol !
• 1907[21:05:18] <petn-randall> Guest36: WTF are you talking about? How is that related to Debian?
• 1908[21:06:15] <Guest36> petn-randall there is no need to separate LINUX->HURD_FOCUS paradigm
• 1909[21:06:28] <discovered> ixz, replaced-url
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• 1911[21:06:45] <abrotman> Guest36: Do you need help with Debian? This is a support channel
• 1912[21:07:03] <Guest36> petn-randall and the "best" testing is built-in(librecmc and openwrt)
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• 1915[21:07:54] <towo`> Guest36, go, play elsewhere
• 1916[21:07:55] <Guest36> petn-randall debian works ALONE IN THE DARK mooba foca
• 1917[21:07:58] <discovered> ixz, dmesg shows: ath10k_pci 0000:05:00.0: firmware: failed to load ath10k/pre-cal-pci-0000:05:00.0.bin ... what it does?
• 1918[21:07:59] <fredl> hiya folks
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• 1923[21:08:27] <fredl> I installed shotwell on a Debian 10 system. From what I'm reading it should also have face recognition but I can't seem to find it anywhere
• 1924[21:08:31] <ixz> it says, loading important file for the ath10k adaptwr failed due to not existing
• 1925[21:08:41] <fredl> Any clue? Do I need to install additional packages to enable that?>
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• 1927[21:09:04] <towo`> discovered, apt install firmware-atheros will fix that
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• 1929[21:09:22] <discovered> towo`, I did but still no fix
• 1930[21:09:39] <ixz> i dont have that firmware file from the kernel git also
• 1931[21:09:46] <ixz> search on google for that file
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• 1936[21:10:09] <towo`> discovered, then it's not packaged
• 1937[21:10:25] <bencc1> probably best not to upgrade chromium to 79
• 1938[21:10:30] <bencc1> replaced-url
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• 1940[21:11:04] <discovered> towo`, Just updated firmware from git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git . That firmware is not exist there too
• 1941[21:11:33] <ixz> search for the path/file on google
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• 1944[21:11:48] <towo`> than firmware does not exist yet
• 1945[21:11:55] <towo`> *that
• 1946[21:11:59] <ixz> not publically much at least
• 1947[21:12:00] <fredl> nobody know about shotwell?
• 1948[21:12:05] <ixz> i dunno this
• 1949[21:12:21] <towo`> and if wlan is working, it's not a problem at all
• 1950[21:12:38] <ixz> my wlan didnt work till i updated the firmware files
• 1951[21:13:55] <abrotman> fredl: which version are you using?
• 1952[21:14:00] <discovered> towo`, wlan working!
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• 1954[21:14:27] <abrotman> judd: versions shotwell
• 1955[21:14:28] <judd> Package: shotwell on amd64 -- jessie: 0.20.1-1+b1; stretch: 0.25.4+really0.24.5-0.1; buster: 0.30.1-1; bullseye: 0.30.7-1; sid: 0.30.7-2
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• 1957[21:15:28] <fredl> abrotman - 0.30.1-1
• 1958[21:15:57] <fredl> I installed a bunch of libopencv pkg'es
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• 1961[21:16:23] <fredl> Hoping that would enable it automagically, unfortunately not
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• 1964[21:17:50] <discovered> ixz, I can't find that file in Google heh
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• 1967[21:18:02] <ixz> good luck further
• 1968[21:18:10] <ixz> i dont find the psp file for amdgpu picasso yet too
• 1969[21:18:13] <abrotman> fredl: ah .. the release notes say it's disabled by default :)
• 1970[21:18:14] <ixz> the list says its submitted
• 1971[21:18:17] <abrotman> uh :(
• 1972[21:18:18] <ixz> so its under review or soething
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• 1974[21:18:28] <abrotman> fredl: replaced-url
• 1975[21:18:33] <abrotman> I guess not release notes .. but a blog post
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• 1977[21:18:54] <fredl> drats
• 1978[21:19:00] <fredl> tnx!
• 1979[21:19:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1458
• 1980[21:19:03] <abrotman> however, that's also 18 months old
• 1981[21:19:22] <fredl> yeah I just checked if there's anything in buster-backports, alas not
• 1982[21:19:31] <discovered> ixz, I think the firmware is not an issue if my wlan work .. .right?
• 1983[21:19:37] <abrotman> fredl: also, there's a #shotwell on irc.gnome.org
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• 1985[21:19:47] <ixz> if it works be already ok with it =p
• 1986[21:19:52] <ixz> and hope it gets on somewhen soon
• 1987[21:20:06] <discovered> yes
• 1988[21:20:29] <fredl> abrotman, hmm, 'k that might be a good way to go then. I guess I could also recompile the source to play with it, see if it works
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• 1991[21:22:06] <badger> exit
• 1992[21:22:09] <badger> exit
• 1993[21:22:11] <badger> exit
• 1994[21:22:11] <badger> exit
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• 1997[21:22:18] <dvs> he
• 1998[21:22:22] <spacebug^> :)
• 1999[21:22:23] <Exagone313> he forgot the /
• 2000[21:22:24] <Exagone313> nice
• 2001[21:22:32] <dvs> still got the job done
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• 2013[21:28:50] <Exagone313> Hi, I'm wondering if there had been any discussion over the case of maxmind releasing new geoip databases in EULA because of californian privacy law (<replaced-url
• 2014[21:28:50] <Exagone313> another package? Thanks for your help.
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• 2016[21:29:39] <Exagone313> (I guess this kind of question is more appropriate in a mailing list but I don't like using mailing lists)
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• 2019[21:31:31] <InNeedOfFreedom> ;F.
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• 2024[21:34:27] <petn-randall> Exagone313: See replaced-url
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• 2026[21:35:04] <jvwjgames> hi I ended up installing Debian 9.11
• 2027[21:35:04] <Exagone313> petn-randall: I've already read the changelog, that's why I came here
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• 2029[21:35:43] <jvwjgames> anyway upon installation of Debian 9.11 I had to install driver for one of my network cards which work the network card comes up but how do I install the drivers for my other network card
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• 2031[21:36:14] <abrotman> Exagone313: IANAL, but the data holder seems like the one that would have to comply with regulations. but, there is a lists.debian.org/debian-legal (i know, it's a mailing list)
• 2032[21:36:30] <abrotman> jvwjgames: drivers or firmware?
• 2033[21:36:37] <abrotman> and why not Debian10 ?
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• 2035[21:36:59] <jvwjgames> packetfence says it supports 9.11
• 2036[21:37:05] <Guest36> people if u op to a windows 10 machine and swipe to a linux build try to not sit firmware focus windows
• 2037[21:37:07] <abrotman> weird, but okay
• 2038[21:37:12] <jvwjgames> or CentOS 7
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• 2040[21:37:14] <Exagone313> I would have highlighted the package manager if they are here
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• 2044[21:37:32] <abrotman> Guest36: please go somewhere else
• 2045[21:38:17] <jvwjgames> which I've gotten it to work on CentOS 7 but that's not the focus here
• 2046[21:38:35] <Exagone313> jvwjgames: what network cards do you have?
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• 2048[21:38:49] <jvwjgames> how do I check that?
• 2049[21:38:52] <ixz> .. try more recent debian than 10, [/me hides]
• 2050[21:38:53] <abrotman> lspci -nn
• 2051[21:39:03] <Exagone313> jvwjgames: with "lspci" command from pciutils package
• 2052[21:39:48] <Exagone313> connect an ethernet cable on the computer if you can
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• 2056[21:41:27] <petn-randall> Exagone313: Old ones can still be distributed, as the license didn't change retroactively. But there will be no future updates.
• 2057[21:41:47] <jvwjgames> ok
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• 2060[21:41:59] <jvwjgames> all 3 network card show up in IP a
• 2061[21:42:08] <jvwjgames> but only one says up
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• 2063[21:42:15] <Exagone313> petn-randall: I agree for the license, but it's an issue about the privacy law
• 2064[21:42:27] <petn-randall> abrotman: I'm still not sure if Guest36 is human or just a bot spewing Markov chains.
• 2065[21:42:36] <Exagone313> for copyright it's legal, but the data may still be illegal
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• 2068[21:43:10] <petn-randall> Exagone313: AFAICS it's purely copyright.
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• 2070[21:43:18] <Exagone313> (ianal)
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• 2074[21:43:54] <petn-randall> Exagone313: Since Debian is not based in California, it might not be an issue at all. But also IANAL.
• 2075[21:44:04] <Exagone313> I'd like to move this into offtopic or a meta channel if you know about
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• 2081[21:47:31] <petn-randall> #debian-offtopic sounds appropriate.
• 2082[21:48:18] <abrotman> Exagone313: also, did you look in the BTS for the package?
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• 2084[21:48:24] <Exagone313> BTS?
• 2085[21:48:51] <Exagone313> oh bugtracker ok
• 2086[21:48:51] <petn-randall> !bts
• 2087[21:48:51] <dpkg> Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, replaced-url
• 2088[21:48:54] <abrotman> bugs.debian.org/geoip-database (or whatever teh package is called)
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• 2092[21:49:43] <Exagone313> yes that's the name, No reports found
• 2093[21:50:36] <Exagone313> I'll mail the package maintainer in changelog
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• 2102[21:55:12] <abrotman> petn-randall: third time's the charm?
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• 2105[21:56:21] <jvwjgames> I got them fixed all is well thanks everyone
• 2106[21:56:52] <jvwjgames> and in case anyone is wondering they had to be manually specified in /etc/network/interfaces
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• 2138[22:14:41] <moaker> hey I just installed debian buster and for some reason it wont detect my WIFI wireless card
• 2139[22:15:10] <towo`> moaker, because it needs nonfree firmware
• 2140[22:15:13] <annadane> moaker, what does sudo dmesg | grep firmware say? you probably need non-free firmware
• 2141[22:15:15] <ixz> my wifi only worked with 5.4 off sid and alpha1 installer
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• 2146[22:17:30] <abrotman> moaker: you still there?
• 2147[22:17:51] <moaker> abrotman: yes trying to see it says command not found
• 2148[22:17:57] <moaker> i could do dmesg though
• 2149[22:18:17] <moaker> on lspcie it says that theres a wireless card
• 2150[22:18:29] <abrotman> and what's the model number? or PCIID?
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• 2153[22:19:11] <ircuser> hi
• 2154[22:19:15] <moaker> 88w8897 AVASTAR 802.llac wireless
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• 2156[22:19:33] <moaker> thats what I get from lscpie
• 2157[22:19:47] <moaker> lspci I mean
• 2158[22:19:48] <abrotman> do you have wired internet at the moment?
• 2159[22:19:52] <ircuser> setup|post hidden from init/upstart/systemd running context
• 2160[22:19:57] <moaker> no, this is just my windows box
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• 2162[22:20:21] <moaker> is there a bunch of drivers I can load up on a usb or something
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• 2164[22:20:41] <moaker> it detects the surface pro3 type cover, idk why its having wifi issues :s
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• 2169[22:21:13] <abrotman> moaker: because it likely needs firmware to drive it
• 2170[22:21:50] <towo`> firmware-libertas
• 2171[22:21:59] <moaker> i see, so what kind of solution can I have, I know kali install was very similar, it detected it as qualcom,
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• 2173[22:22:19] <moaker> i was thinking of plugging in my asus wifi dongle I use for my desktop but that wont work
• 2174[22:22:25] <towo`> but it's a Marvell
• 2175[22:22:38] <ixz> moaker i suggest and can guide you thru, not installing debian-outdated or 10 ( for newer )
• 2176[22:22:55] <jhutchins> moaker: dmesg | grep firmware, confirm that it's trying and failing to load it. It will probably tell you what specific firmware file you need.
• 2177[22:23:00] <moaker> a newer version ixz? okay sure
• 2178[22:23:06] <jhutchins> moaker: There's also a non-free firmware bundle.
• 2179[22:23:13] <moaker> jhutchins, okay i will try that
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• 2181[22:23:15] <jhutchins> !firmware
• 2182[22:23:15] <dpkg> Firmware is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace, notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>. replaced-url
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• 2187[22:24:00] <ixz> moaker replaced-url
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• 2189[22:24:37] <abrotman> whoa .. don't use that
• 2190[22:24:43] <moaker> thank you ixz i am downloading
• 2191[22:24:46] <moaker> why not lol
• 2192[22:24:53] <ixz> my amd 3700U laptop didnt bootwith less, and it didnt recogbinze wlan till 5.4
• 2193[22:24:54] <abrotman> moaker: that isn't installing Stable/Buster .. is that what you want?
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• 2196[22:25:07] <moaker> how do I check which version I have now
• 2197[22:25:18] <moaker> im pretty sure I downloaded the latest
• 2198[22:25:18] <abrotman> moaker: cat /etc/debian_version
• 2199[22:25:21] <wonderworld> cat /etc/issue
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• 2203[22:25:34] <ixz> you can upgrade to further on your system
• 2204[22:25:37] <ixz> that also works well
• 2205[22:25:42] <abrotman> ixz: please stop ...
• 2206[22:26:05] <ixz> no ?
• 2207[22:26:07] <jhutchins> ixz: We try not to reommend testing or unstable to users who are not already familiar with debian.
• 2208[22:26:16] <ixz> you do that, not me
• 2209[22:26:30] * moaker is very confused
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• 2212[22:26:31] <nkuttler> i thought we don't even recommend it to experienced users?
• 2213[22:26:33] <gry> moaker: what version have you got?
• 2214[22:26:39] <spacebug^> this channel is for debian stable
• 2215[22:26:46] <ixz> i help everyone
• 2216[22:26:57] <abrotman> ixz: you may not be helping, you might be causing a problem ..
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• 2219[22:27:09] <nkuttler> ixz: you can join #debian-next on oftc
• 2220[22:27:09] <ixz> dude you cause me stupid problems
• 2221[22:27:12] <abrotman> you don't know what the person is trying to do .. you're just offering up what worked for you
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• 2226[22:27:30] <abrotman> ixz: Not everyone here wants to run unstable+experimental, please
• 2227[22:27:32] <jhutchins> moaker: The testing distribution is for testing the next release of debian. It is expected to break on a regular basis.
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• 2229[22:27:46] <gry> moaker: could you please check your debian version
• 2230[22:27:57] <gry> moaker: cat /etc/debian_version
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• 2233[22:28:27] <moaker> gry yes checking now
• 2234[22:28:32] <gry> moaker: thank you
• 2235[22:28:36] <jhutchins> moaker: I would suggest you simply find out which firmware pakage your adapter needs, download it to something like a USB stick, copy it to the target computer and install it.
• 2236[22:28:54] <moaker> 10.2
• 2237[22:29:33] <abrotman> moaker: okay, so, we can either give you instructions on putting the package in via what you have now, or install from a new ISO that includes firmware
• 2238[22:29:36] <jhutchins> moaker: Very good, you are on stable, which is for people who just want a computer that works, not a science project.
• 2239[22:29:53] <gry> :-)
• 2240[22:30:17] <moaker> okay, so where would I get this firmware
• 2241[22:30:23] <wonderworld> I really like the concept that Stable is stable. :)
• 2242[22:30:35] <abrotman> moaker: do you have a USB stick or osmething you can use to deliver the package?
• 2243[22:31:25] <moaker> yes
• 2244[22:31:37] <abrotman> you can get the package here: replaced-url
• 2245[22:31:49] <moaker> im on a microsoft surface pro 3 if that makes any difference
• 2246[22:33:19] <jhutchins> Nope.
• 2247[22:33:49] <abrotman> moaker: do you see where to download it?
• 2248[22:33:57] <moaker> im looking heh
• 2249[22:34:10] <towo`> i would use a non-free image
• 2250[22:34:19] <abrotman> moaker: replaced-url
• 2251[22:34:37] <abrotman> towo`: I probably would too .. but might not be an option at this point
• 2252[22:34:39] <moaker> okay awesome, ty
• 2253[22:35:24] <moaker> imgonna get the micro sd card now and see what happens brb
• 2254[22:35:53] <moaker> actually Ill just use an external hdd
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• 2261[22:40:15] <moaker> okay I got the deb package
• 2262[22:40:26] <abrotman> that's okay .. you need to install it
• 2263[22:40:28] <moaker> sorry im pretty new, is there a way to install this, specifically
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• 2265[22:41:00] <abrotman> did you get it mounted on the Debian system?
• 2266[22:41:07] <moaker> unzip it then do ./configure && make ?
• 2267[22:41:13] <abrotman> no
• 2268[22:41:14] <moaker> yes its on the system
• 2269[22:41:25] <moaker> i dont know if itts mounted though
• 2270[22:41:31] <abrotman> you owuld `dpkg -i firmware-libertas_20190114-2_all.deb`
• 2271[22:41:34] <abrotman> would
• 2272[22:41:37] <moaker> oh okay
• 2273[22:41:43] <wonderworld> moaker: right click on it and choose "install with gdebi package managemant"
• 2274[22:41:50] <annadane> make in general isn't a great idea for linux systems, at least not blindly, you can get stuff in weird places in the filesystem
• 2275[22:43:17] <annadane> at least with debian packages that would probably work in general, if you have the source, but it's not the recommended way to install this firmware thing and not necessary anyway
• 2276[22:44:15] <moaker> warning: ldconfig not found in PATH or not executable , warning start -stop daemon not found in path or not executable,
• 2277[22:44:16] <moaker> hmmm
• 2278[22:44:28] <moaker> thats when i run dpkg -i
• 2279[22:44:40] <abrotman> are you root?
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• 2281[22:45:02] <moaker> note: roots path should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr?sbin and /sbin
• 2282[22:45:06] <moaker> yes i did SU
• 2283[22:45:09] <abrotman> did you 'su -' ?
• 2284[22:45:10] <towo`> use 'su -' instead of su
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• 2286[22:45:17] <moaker> oh ok
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• 2288[22:47:03] <dka> Hi
• 2289[22:47:03] <moaker> 'su ? that brings me to a screen with >
• 2290[22:47:13] <abrotman> without the quotes
• 2291[22:47:24] <dka> I have run : `sudo sysctl fs.inotify.max_user_instances=524288 && sudo sysctl fs.inotify.max_user_watches=524288 && sudo sysctl fs.inotify.max_queued_events=524288`
• 2292[22:47:30] <abrotman> hit ctrl-c .. do it again
• 2293[22:47:33] <dka> on each of the 3 servers composing my production platform
• 2294[22:47:39] <dka> all my docker services crash and it is all down
• 2295[22:47:43] <dka> I don't know what they do
• 2296[22:47:49] <dka> I don't know what were the default values
• 2297[22:47:53] <dka> I only know that I fucked up
• 2298[22:47:59] <abrotman> you can't reboot one of the servers?
• 2299[22:48:02] <dka> everything shut down at once
• 2300[22:48:07] <dka> me?
• 2301[22:48:18] <dka> I am afraid of loosing the cluster state
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• 2303[22:48:19] <dka> of mesos
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• 2305[22:48:49] <wonderworld> dka: check default values from another installation and restore them?
• 2306[22:49:29] <abrotman> moaker: package installed?
• 2307[22:49:37] <moaker> pressing ' brings me to a > prompt
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• 2309[22:49:52] <abrotman> moaker: hit ctrl-c ..
• 2310[22:50:01] <moaker> k
• 2311[22:50:05] <abrotman> moaker: then use: su -
• 2312[22:50:09] <abrotman> no quotes
• 2313[22:50:55] <moaker> okay su -
• 2314[22:51:04] <abrotman> and then install the package
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• 2316[22:52:29] <wonderworld> dka: those are the values on my buster server... sysctl -a | grep "fs.inotify." -> fs.inotify.max_queued_events = 16384 | fs.inotify.max_user_instances = 128 | fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 8192
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• 2319[22:53:27] <moaker> okay I did su - it sent me to root@localhost
• 2320[22:53:39] <moaker> then i cd'd into the usr / usrname /desktop dir
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• 2322[22:53:55] <moaker> then it suipposedly installed the package
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• 2324[22:54:09] <moaker> "uppacking firmware libertas , setting up firmware-llibertas
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• 2326[22:54:34] <moaker> now I should restart maybe,
• 2327[22:54:41] <dka> I have reverse all the values
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• 2330[22:54:43] <dka> So now I ahve
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• 2332[22:54:57] <dka> fs.inotify.max_queued_events = 16384, fs.inotify.max_user_instances = 128, fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 524288
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• 2335[22:55:06] <dka> Should I expect my cluster to restart all the services automatically ?
• 2336[22:55:13] <dka> I use marathon and mesos, normally that's what they do
• 2337[22:55:22] <dka> If i have lost the mesos app state
• 2338[22:55:22] <wonderworld> i have no idea
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• 2340[22:55:27] <dka> that's really bad
• 2341[22:55:27] <abrotman> moaker: yes, reboot is easiest
• 2342[22:55:33] <dka> for some reason all docker container started to fail
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• 2344[22:56:10] <M0u53> hello
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• 2348[22:58:07] <abrotman> moaker: any luck?
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• 2354[23:00:41] <dka_> WARNING: IPv4 forwarding is disabled. Networking will not work.
• 2355[23:00:48] <dka_> => /opt/gitlab/embedded/bin/runsvdir-start: line 37: /proc/sys/fs/file-max: Read-only file system
• 2356[23:00:52] <dka_> this happen within the gitlab container
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• 2361[23:02:04] <dka_> What are thos ecommand doing on the system ?
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• 2368[23:03:35] <abrotman> moaker: is it on fire?
• 2369[23:04:11] <dka_> and RTNETLINK answers: Operation not permitted
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• 2404[23:23:03] <ryouma> what do i do to diagnose sound issues? no sound, but i think the speakers click when i reboot or when i plug the plug in.
• 2405[23:23:08] <ryouma> s/i think//
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• 2407[23:23:49] <ksk> ryouma: replaced-url
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• 2409[23:24:16] <ksk> if you are german, I found the sound article of ubuntuusers.de alayws helpful (some more hands on debugging examples in there)
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• 2411[23:24:49] <ryouma> i will try the link, thanks
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• 2419[23:31:04] <ryouma> "Check that your soundcard is visible, enabled, and is selected as default in the Configuration tab of the audio mixer " -- where is this in alsamixer? i have pulseaudio purged (this worked previously).
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• 2421[23:31:45] <B|ack0p> how can i install .ttf font files?
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• 2423[23:32:04] <B|ack0p> what application usually opens and installs font files?
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• 2425[23:32:12] <towo`> copy it to ~/.fonts
• 2426[23:32:15] <B|ack0p> in gnome there was a default program
• 2427[23:32:36] <B|ack0p> cp *ttf ~/.fonts ?
• 2428[23:32:43] <towo`> sure
• 2429[23:32:45] <ksk> ryouma: afaik today you want to have pulseaudio installed.
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• 2432[23:33:19] <ksk> if you dont have any reason to cut it out (besides "meh") I would suggest trying pulse.
• 2433[23:33:45] <B|ack0p> normally where are the fonts located in debian?
• 2434[23:34:10] <ryouma> ksk: i will try it. my reason was that sound kep(t breaking. purging it made sound work always all the time every time. so it's ironic to install it to get it to work.
• 2435[23:34:11] <wonderworld> systemwide in /usr/sahre/fonts
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• 2437[23:34:30] <B|ack0p> can i paste in that location wonderworld ?
• 2438[23:34:40] <wonderworld> no it has a typo ;)
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• 2442[23:35:10] <wonderworld> check out the dir, it has subfolders for different font types
• 2443[23:35:42] <wonderworld> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ should be the place for your ttf files
• 2444[23:36:08] <B|ack0p> ok i need to create sub folder inside that
• 2445[23:36:38] <wonderworld> not sure, wouldn't hurt i guess
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• 2451[23:40:54] <aaro> to add fonts put them in /usr/local/share/fonts
• 2452[23:41:34] <B|ack0p> ok i copied all the fonts in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/newfont/
• 2453[23:41:42] <B|ack0p> but they all have X sign on the file
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• 2455[23:41:46] <B|ack0p> i think needs to be cached
• 2456[23:41:49] <B|ack0p> how can i do that?
• 2457[23:42:18] <ksk> B|ack0p: replaced-url
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• 2462[23:44:02] <B|ack0p> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ubuntu: skipping, looped directory detected
• 2463[23:44:12] <B|ack0p> what does it mean?
• 2464[23:44:16] <B|ack0p> why cant i cache?
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• 2467[23:46:49] <B|ack0p> nvm i installed via synaptics
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• 2472[23:48:08] <ryouma> i installed pulseaudio (although sound worked before doing so, on stretch, and this is stretch, just on a different machien) --- and pavucontrol says there are no sound cards. but my plug is plugged into a sound card jack.
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• 2476[23:49:16] <ksk> ryouma: did you restart? (it helps..)
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• 2478[23:49:30] <ryouma> do you mean reboot?
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• 2482[23:49:36] <ksk> restarting the desktop should be enough, but you never know ;)
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• 2484[23:50:09] <ksk> had pulse in states where only a reboot solved it (though that might be related to myself..)
• 2485[23:50:12] <ryouma> i just use fluxbox and no display manager. i just installed pulseaudio so it started. not sure why restarting x would help?
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• 2494[23:57:49] <ryouma> "Check that a driver/module is loaded for your sound card using lspci -knn " -- what should this look like? i.e. wihch column do i look at?
• 2495[23:58:09] <ryouma> it looks like i need and have snd_hda_intel but i am not sure. do i do modprobe snd_hda_intel? that did ont work if so.
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