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44 [00:39:01] <SPX> hi debian gurus how do I change my keyboard input to georgian language
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53 [00:42:51] <Elon_Sat0shi> hello
54 [00:43:05] <Elon_Sat0shi> SPX: what DE are you using?
55 [00:43:31] <SPX> lxde
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79 [01:09:53] <Freeaqingme> Howdy, I've got a Debian 10 (server) install that displays on every apt-get invocation "Error: timeout was reached". I deduced that it's due to the packagekit integration. What's the most logical way of fixing it? I could just delete the file from /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ and call it a day, but I may lose some functionality?
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98 [01:20:32] <LaurentDumont> Freeaqingme: Not too sure but I'm surprised at something as basic as APT failing in a General Release.
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100 [01:21:01] <LaurentDumont> I'm seeing some really old reports from 2013-2014 blaming packagekit.
101 [01:21:05] <Freeaqingme> LaurentDumont: it does work. It just prints the error
102 [01:21:33] <Freeaqingme> but everything works just fine. There's a check to see if it works, and that check outputs it to stderr or something
103 [01:21:34] <LaurentDumont> Ah, I see. One of the bug mentioned that.
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105 [01:22:08] <Freeaqingme> I must admit it's not entirely a GA release, it's proxmox 6. but I do not expect them to have modified this part (didn't verify it either)
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107 [01:22:45] <Freeaqingme> the packagekit integration appears to be some ubuntu innovation that was backported to Debian, if I understand correctly
108 [01:23:16] <LaurentDumont> I'm running Proxmox 6 as well and did not see that on the 4 nodes I upgraded.
109 [01:23:18] <LaurentDumont> replaced-url
110 [01:23:19] <judd> Bug replaced-url
111 [01:23:33] <LaurentDumont> Can you try - /usr/lib/packagekit/packagekitd --verbose
112 [01:23:56] <LaurentDumont> Looks like he removed the DB after : rm -f /var/lib/PackageKit/transactions.db and redid an "apt-get update".
113 [01:24:05] <LaurentDumont> Maybe take a backup of the file first ;)
114 [01:25:21] <Freeaqingme> I'm running hte command as we speak, but there's been no output for a full minute. Last line is "clearing download cache at /var/cache/PackageKit/downloads"
115 [01:25:31] <Freeaqingme> it looks like it's going to itmeout, at some point
116 [01:26:07] <Freeaqingme> This is the line that is invoked by apt, I think: /usr/bin/gdbus call --system --dest org.freedesktop.PackageKit --object-path /org/freedesktop/PackageKit --timeout 4 --method org.freedesktop.PackageKit.StateHasChanged cache-update
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120 [01:28:28] <Freeaqingme> But, packagekit really looks like a tool to support GUI's. Does one even need it on a server?
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122 [01:30:38] <LaurentDumont> I'm not sure. I had never seen the term before today.
123 [01:30:47] <LaurentDumont> It doesn't seem to be on my Proxmox 6 install
124 [01:30:47] <LaurentDumont> root@bacon:~# dpkg -l | grep packagekit
125 [01:30:47] <LaurentDumont> root@bacon:~# ^C
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128 [01:32:27] <LaurentDumont> Could try this too - replaced-url
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131 [01:32:43] <LaurentDumont> Did you install Proxmox 6 with the pre-made ISO? Or a Debian 10 transformed into a Proxmox?
132 [01:33:05] <LaurentDumont> I would be curious to know at what point the package was added.
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149 [01:39:09] <annadane> your computer is called bacon? :D
150 [01:39:13] <Freeaqingme> LaurentDumont: this is installed using the premade iso. But I did run my Puppet install on it. Let me see if I can find out when/why it was installed
151 [01:39:32] <Freeaqingme> I'm not doing anything specific with packaged in my puppet stuff, but it could of course be a dependency of something
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153 [01:39:45] <Freeaqingme> the lack of google results makes it likely that it's very specific in a way to my situation
154 [01:39:47] <LaurentDumont> Of course! I have bacon, superbacon, ultrabacon and morebacon as Proxmox Hypervisors :D
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156 [01:40:17] <LaurentDumont> Yeah, I'm surprised it errors out - especially with bugs from 2012.
157 [01:40:30] <Freeaqingme> Aah, I install software-properties-common to support PPA's
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159 [01:41:00] <Freeaqingme> that has packagekit as a recommends
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163 [01:41:33] <Freeaqingme> I did do some stracing, but couldn't find out immediately why it hangs. Suppose I'll just remove it, and install software-properties-common without the recommended packages
164 [01:41:47] <LaurentDumont> Sounds good to me.
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172 [01:45:02] <Freeaqingme> thanks :)
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193 [01:51:26] <hatter__> When doing an OS upgrade, if I didn't install the maintainers conf file, where can I find it ?
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196 [01:52:14] <warsoul> if i install freebsd on a ssd it will apear on my grub to be bootable?
197 [01:52:58] <Guest90dcb> high
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200 [01:54:00] <Miles8of9> what do i need to configure while or after installing debian on an ssd?
201 [01:54:01] <Guest90dcb> what about STEAM devops full live distro gaming
202 [01:54:26] <Guest90dcb> sharing pre-installed $HOME
203 [01:54:37] <Guest90dcb> repo games
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206 [01:54:57] <nvz> is there free stuff on steam for linux?
207 [01:55:17] <nvz> or is it just all commercial games?
208 [01:55:34] <Miles8of9> steam os is interesting but you need to install it and replace your debian...
209 [01:55:48] <Guest90dcb> steam distribute mixed digital content
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211 [01:55:59] <nvz> I have steam on the debian box I setup as a gaming thing, but I didnt check it out cause I dont have an account
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213 [01:56:21] <Freeaqingme> nvz: I run the steam app on ubuntu. I haven't noticed any content being offered for free, but there could be some software in there that happens to be free
214 [01:56:22] <nvz> and I'm not really into gaming I can't see spending money on games anytime in the near future :P
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216 [01:56:57] <Miles8of9> no good games for linux... unfortunately :|
217 [01:56:59] <Freeaqingme> but if you're looking for free as in beer and foss software, all you need to do is check out debian's own repo's
218 [01:57:12] <Guest90dcb> its an option point the strict LIVE DISTRO GAMING, maybe someone contact them
219 [01:57:14] <Freeaqingme> some favorites of mine are 0ad and flightgear
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223 [01:57:47] <hgjjhgk> anyone from sydney
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226 [01:58:15] <joepublic> gratis is distinct from free
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228 [01:58:30] <nvz> what most people call a good game these days, I find tiresome :P when I do play a game I just want something simple, intuitive, and non-commital.. that I dont have to spend an hour in a tutorial, then sucked into a story that takes 7000 hours
229 [01:58:50] <Freeaqingme> nvz: try 0ad
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231 [01:59:04] <joepublic> Syndey population: 4,391,674 .
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234 [01:59:22] <nvz> I may have tried that.. I played hedgewars, bzflag, assault cube.. etc.. things I can just get into a game and get out as needed
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238 [02:00:00] <nvz> ah no I haven't tried 0ad.. looks a bit like the first two warcraft games
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242 [02:00:14] <Freeaqingme> joepublic: that's awfully accurate ;)
243 [02:00:36] <joepublic> it's probably a little low/out of date
244 [02:00:36] <Freeaqingme> nvz: I found it while looking for something like age of empires
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280 [02:17:40] <hatter__> When did virtualbox stop being in Debian ? Was it in jessie then out for stretch ?
281 [02:17:52] <ksk> !virtualbox
282 [02:17:52] <dpkg> Oracle VM VirtualBox is an almost free software virtual machine solution. To install, see replaced-url
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284 [02:18:40] <hatter__> it was in debian proper though at some stage,
285 [02:18:51] <warsoul> trying to install another OS on my pc
286 [02:18:57] <warsoul> have 2 HD free
287 [02:19:07] <warsoul> how do i know witch are free?
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289 [02:19:46] <hatter__> warsoul, do you mean the disks are installed in your PC and you don't know which is which ?
290 [02:19:56] <joepublic> hatter__, the link that explains is replaced-url
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292 [02:20:09] <hatter__> ksk, joepublic, thx
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294 [02:21:05] <hatter__> aha, thx, says it all there.
295 [02:21:28] <warsoul> hatter__ yes
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297 [02:21:41] <hatter__> fdisk /dev/sda
298 [02:21:47] <hatter__> or fdisk /dev/sdb etc
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300 [02:22:05] <hatter__> df
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303 [02:22:22] <hatter__> will show you which drives are mounted
304 [02:22:40] <warsoul> fdisk not found
305 [02:23:05] <warsoul> sudo apt install fdisk?
306 [02:23:05] <hatter__> warsoul, you are booted into a debian box ?
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308 [02:23:14] <warsoul> hatter__ yes
309 [02:23:43] <hatter__> um, I always thought fdisk was part of the base install, somebody else may comment
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311 [02:25:01] <warsoul> fdisk is already the newest version (2.33.1-0.1).
312 [02:25:04] <warsoul> it is installed
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315 [02:25:29] <joepublic> fdisk is in /sbin, so in root's path, not a normal user's path
316 [02:25:40] <hatter__> warsoul, I think if you are wondering how to use fdisk, perhaps you should do some reading up on linux first
317 [02:25:44] <hatter__> fdisk can ruin your day.
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319 [02:26:26] <Guest90dcb> please debian team, optionnaly point and link to a figure image bootloader|shadow hash password
320 [02:26:26] <hatter__> as joepulbic just said, perhaps you are not root.
321 [02:26:32] <warsoul> root@debian:/home/warsoul# fdisk /dev/sda
322 [02:26:33] <warsoul> bash: fdisk: command not found
323 [02:27:31] <Guest90dcb> point and link to a figure image bootloader|shadow hash password tagged
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336 [02:43:57] <lenswipe> hey yall
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338 [02:44:23] <lenswipe> My laptop went to sleep. I woke it up and now I have no audio. Just a "dummy audio" device. I've tried rebooting and the problem is still there
339 [02:44:26] <lenswipe> whats going on
340 [02:44:51] <lenswipe> sudo lspci -vv | grep -i audio shows 00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Device 9d71 (rev 21) (prog-if 80)
341 [02:44:55] <Guest90dcb> point and link to a figure image bootloader|shadow hash password dynamic random tagged
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343 [02:45:19] <lenswipe> wat
344 [02:45:45] <joepublic> Guest90dcb is babbling about something unrelated
345 [02:46:18] <maxtim> lenswipe, i've had issues in the past with intel audio, I believe they're proprietary.
346 [02:46:50] <maxtim> is it a dell? (just curious)
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351 [02:58:18] <LtL> !timidity pulseaudio
352 [02:58:19] <dpkg> Some users have had <timidity> blocking access to their sound card, resulting in <pulseaudio> only seeing a dummy output. Check if timidity is running with 'systemctl status timidity' and stop/disable with 'systemctl stop timidity ; systemctl disable timidity' and/or remove the timidity-daemon package.
353 [02:58:58] <LtL> lenswipe: ^^^^
354 [02:59:34] <maxtim> I'm over in virtualbox channel as well, but not getting much action. Can I ask here, despite it being slightly off topic (it is Debian 10 host)?
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359 [03:06:21] <LtL> warsoul: type 'whereis fdisk', if you haven't figured it out yet
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372 [03:19:11] <Guest74> helol pippo's
373 [03:19:23] <dvs> ???
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375 [03:19:56] <Guest74> i think debian is missing, libinput logged active session foreground recaptcha hid
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377 [03:21:38] <Guest74> manycast suggestions are crit
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391 [03:26:03] <Guest74> libinput logged active session foreground recaptcha hid login program off lined xclusive
392 [03:27:13] <lenswipe> maxtim, yes it is
393 [03:27:28] <lenswipe> LtL, Yeah, I uninstalled timidity a while ago
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396 [03:28:34] <lenswipe> LtL, timidity was running...but apparently not installed
397 [03:28:34] <lenswipe> wat
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399 [03:28:58] <maxtim> So I created a .vmdk using `sudo vboxmanage` and I noticed that it's the exact same size as the usb i grabbed the raw from. Couldn't i just use `dd` to create an iso and boot from that in Oracle's VirtualBox?
400 [03:29:17] <maxtim> lenswipe, you installed the proprietary drivers?
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403 [03:29:49] <lenswipe> maxtim, nope
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410 [03:34:47] <lenswipe> maxtim, looks like Dell only ship the .exe
411 [03:35:14] <lenswipe> replaced-url
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417 [03:40:29] <maxtim> i think you need to enable `non-free` in sources, `apt update && apt upgrade`, and i forget which particular driver i installed, but the debian docs outta cover it
418 [03:41:04] <maxtim> lenswipe, that `/etc/apt/sources.list`
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421 [03:42:04] <lenswipe> Ah right, okay
422 [03:42:59] <maxtim> lenswipe, just google that output from lspci, it's like int-something-something. just a simple apt install xxx and you -should- be good
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428 [03:48:16] <Chiaki_Nanami> yummy
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434 [03:50:34] <Chiaki_Nanami> hi
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438 [03:54:12] <lenswipe> maxtim, thanks ill give that a shot
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440 [03:55:39] <lenswipe> maxtim, oem-audio-hda-daily-dkms ?
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442 [03:56:18] <maxtim> lenswipe, that doesn't sound right
443 [03:57:17] <maxtim> lenswipe, replaced-url
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448 [04:03:15] <lenswipe> ah, weird - that didn't turn up in my google search results
449 [04:03:17] <lenswipe> Thanks :)
450 [04:03:40] <lenswipe> maxtim,
451 [04:03:47] <lenswipe> presumably I need to reboot for this to take effect
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453 [04:05:30] <Guest74> let keymaker create|add|associate|link app FILEMANAGER for exit
454 [04:05:49] <maxtim> yes lenswipe
455 [04:06:27] <maxtim> typically when you dabble with kernel level stuff, you'll need to reload.
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457 [04:09:54] <Guest74> please, guaranteed do not get logged linux|drivers
458 [04:10:23] <Guest74> login|link to logged
459 [04:11:50] <Guest74> nologin|nolink to already logged
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461 [04:12:11] <joepublic> here are several socks. please begin to eat them.
462 [04:12:11] <Guest74> account
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464 [04:12:48] <lenswipe> gotcha
465 [04:12:59] <Guest74> noneed to shouy on you
466 [04:13:07] <lenswipe> Guest74, dafuq are you talking about?
467 [04:13:18] <Guest74> not uptou
468 [04:13:24] <lenswipe> ???
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470 [04:14:42] <maxtim> lenswipe, Guest74 dealing with a different issue, I'm not sure how to help either. Someone else might, but the question isn't very coherent
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472 [04:15:57] <lenswipe> indeed
473 [04:16:15] <lenswipe> I'm reminded of big bang theory when sheldon tried to speak mandarin
474 [04:16:20] <lenswipe> replaced-url
475 [04:16:27] <lenswipe> replaced-url
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477 [04:16:54] <maxtim> !topic
478 [04:17:12] <lenswipe> br
479 [04:17:14] <lenswipe> brb
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515 [04:55:57] <SociallyStrange1> Hi.
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518 [04:56:43] <BigBlueDolphin> I hate fedora. Does anybody else just love Debian 10.
519 [04:56:55] <maxtim> eye
520 [04:57:15] <maxtim> stability is key
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522 [04:57:29] <BigBlueDolphin> True.
523 [04:57:41] <BigBlueDolphin> I cannot stand Arch with constant updates that break the system.
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526 [04:57:59] <BazookaTooth> then don't use it
527 [04:58:08] <BigBlueDolphin> I don't use it.
528 [04:58:12] <BigBlueDolphin> I only use Debian
529 [04:58:18] <BazookaTooth> so why jab at arch?
530 [04:58:32] <BigBlueDolphin> Why not? It's terrible, same with their community.
531 [04:58:40] <BazookaTooth> really?
532 [04:58:54] <BigBlueDolphin> Yes, everybody on 4chan /g/ says to use it, but please stay away from it.
533 [04:59:07] <maxtim> I'd like to try at Arch again someday. I disagree with their community aspect
534 [04:59:29] <BigBlueDolphin> They also say Debian sucks, which is a lie. Arch doesn't include the Linux Kernel by default and you have to install it manually (run a bunch of commands).
535 [04:59:31] <BazookaTooth> the only reason debian is stable is because the packages are old and people here even use the archwiki for recommendations
536 [04:59:34] <JackFrost> Different distros for different folks, that's all there is.
537 [04:59:37] <maxtim> wtf, 4chan?
538 [04:59:40] <BigBlueDolphin> Yep.
539 [05:00:01] <BazookaTooth> JackFrost: reasonable response
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541 [05:00:17] <maxtim> ate
542 [05:00:18] <BigBlueDolphin> I find compiling apps to be fun.
543 [05:00:23] <maxtim> aye*
544 [05:00:25] <BigBlueDolphin> until it breaks.
545 [05:00:29] <BazookaTooth> arch says debian is old. they don't say it sucks
546 [05:00:54] <BazookaTooth> unless you can quote that from a dev?
547 [05:00:57] <JackFrost> Regardless, this all seems unrelated to Debian support.
548 [05:01:07] <BigBlueDolphin> No, I meant most users who use Arch say Debian sucks.
549 [05:01:10] <maxtim> arch = bleeding edge, debian = stability
550 [05:01:16] <BazookaTooth> ^
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554 [05:01:50] <maxtim> at least they don't force bleeding edge and break things... *cough* windows *cough*
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556 [05:01:55] <BigBlueDolphin> I wish there was firefox-developer-edition in the main repository.
557 [05:01:59] <BazookaTooth> you complained about arch
558 [05:02:01] <BigBlueDolphin> I had to install it manually.
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560 [05:02:28] <BigBlueDolphin> Many useful and open-source apps are missing from debian's repository.
561 [05:02:45] <annadane> i'm not sure anyone ever truly only uses debian stable packages for *everything*, we probably tend to add one or two newer things
562 [05:03:00] <BigBlueDolphin> Yep, that's true. I added debian-multimedia
563 [05:03:07] <annadane> !debian-multimedia
564 [05:03:08] <dpkg> We recommend against using deb-multimedia.org; these unofficial packages are known to cause many hard to debug problems. They are not in Debian either because the they are poor in quality or for legal reasons. See replaced-url
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566 [05:03:23] <BigBlueDolphin> Oh, okay.
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569 [05:03:41] <BigBlueDolphin> My system has been up for 11 days, 16 hours, 12 mins without any problems.
570 [05:03:42] <annadane> and yeah i do use firefox regular instead of esr
571 [05:03:59] <annadane> fasttrack.debian.net aims to try to address some of this
572 [05:03:59] <BazookaTooth> i use arch, debian, centos. they all have a purpose, and i don't say one sucks over the other
573 [05:04:11] <BigBlueDolphin> I needed dark mode, so I used the developer edition because I occasionally do PHP programming.
574 [05:04:12] <maxtim> I don't think anyone uses stock debian. pretty sure one installs it as a solid baseline
575 [05:04:20] <BigBlueDolphin> My sources list is
576 [05:04:27] <BigBlueDolphin> # deb replaced-url
577 [05:04:28] <BigBlueDolphin> deb replaced-url
578 [05:04:28] <BigBlueDolphin> deb-src replaced-url
579 [05:04:28] <BigBlueDolphin> deb replaced-url
580 [05:04:28] <BigBlueDolphin> deb-src replaced-url
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582 [05:05:12] <BazookaTooth> keep your comments to yourself then please
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584 [05:05:39] <annadane> !paste
585 [05:05:39] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: replaced-url
586 [05:05:49] <BigBlueDolphin> Maybe I made an error by posting my apt sources.list?
587 [05:06:02] <BigBlueDolphin> I was unaware of this, thanks.
588 [05:06:15] <BigBlueDolphin> Had to change my VPN location.
589 [05:06:17] <BazookaTooth> bashing other distros is just poor character
590 [05:06:27] <maxtim> agreed
591 [05:06:44] <BigBlueDolphin> and that was why I browsing 4chan because of this. It's just too draining.
592 [05:06:52] <BigBlueDolphin> Oops, stopped.
593 [05:06:53] <BazookaTooth> right...
594 [05:07:24] <BigBlueDolphin> I recently installed Armbian (Debian-based) onto my Orange Pi and it's just like the normal Debian, but for ARM.
595 [05:07:32] <maxtim> Yeah I wouldn't browse 4chan for anything... just my humble opinion
596 [05:07:36] <annadane> i can see myself using arch for specialized purposes, like programming, where i want the latest versions of languages, but for my regular desktop it's debian stable
597 [05:07:55] <BazookaTooth> ^ this is a good example
598 [05:08:06] <annadane> though of course you can still get latest languages in debian stable, just takes longer than a simple pacman command
599 [05:08:28] <BigBlueDolphin> Let me find an example of an Debian-bashing reply on 4chan. Give me a couple of mins, ok?
600 [05:08:37] <annadane> no
601 [05:08:38] <BazookaTooth> stop it dude wtf
602 [05:08:40] <annadane> #debian-offtopic
603 [05:09:15] <BazookaTooth> prolly the same guy we had in #archlinux earlier
604 [05:09:20] <BazookaTooth> o/
605 [05:09:26] <BigBlueDolphin> They hate Raspberry Pis. Never heard of that IRC channel.
606 [05:09:35] <BigBlueDolphin> Compare my IP then.
607 [05:09:46] <BazookaTooth> oh cuz that means something.. try mine
608 [05:10:03] <BigBlueDolphin> Oh, tor, that's good.
609 [05:10:37] <BazookaTooth> freenode hosts #raspbian and #archlinux-arm
610 [05:10:45] <annadane> anyway, please don't fight, many distros are fine for their own purposes
611 [05:10:50] <BigBlueDolphin> Doesn't surprise me that the people on 4chan/g/ believe 90s web design was easier. It was hell; enjoy the <th>. Okay.
612 [05:10:54] <annadane> you can use more than one at a time
613 [05:11:07] <BigBlueDolphin> I know, I'll check it out.
614 [05:11:12] <BazookaTooth> the hell is the guy on about?
615 [05:11:20] <annadane> except kali, that really shouldn't be used as a desktop
616 [05:11:32] <BazookaTooth> annadane: laptops with low memory
617 [05:11:53] <BigBlueDolphin> Those script kiddies love "penetration OSes", when they can be replicated with Debian.
618 [05:11:56] <BazookaTooth> mobile devices
619 [05:12:00] <BigBlueDolphin> Checking out #armbian.
620 [05:12:16] <BazookaTooth> annadane: kali has its place
621 [05:12:35] <BazookaTooth> this twit on the other hand
622 [05:12:41] <oiaohm> BigBlueDolphin: 90s web desgin was easier than today. Mostly because over all you could do less with sites.
623 [05:13:03] <BazookaTooth> trollerskates
624 [05:13:22] <oiaohm> BazookaTooth: back then I used javascript to make a fake frames resulting in finding out that you could reboot windows by internet explorer.
625 [05:13:25] <annadane> kali has its place for *experts*, not people asking "how do i use it"
626 [05:13:39] <BigBlueDolphin> Interesting.
627 [05:13:43] <oiaohm> annadane: I am not sure I would say kali has place with experts.
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630 [05:14:27] <BazookaTooth> company laptop and a kali stick.. job done
631 [05:14:56] <BigBlueDolphin> What was the early Debian days like? Did you have to compile it?
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633 [05:15:44] <BazookaTooth> annadane: fair.. grey line baited
634 [05:16:08] <oiaohm> BazookaTooth: I am a parrot OS user for penetration testing.
635 [05:16:20] <BazookaTooth> good for you i hate parrot
636 [05:16:37] <BigBlueDolphin> Can dolphins use Debian?
637 [05:16:42] <annadane> at least parrot is partially meant as a desktop, can be used as such... kali just isn't
638 [05:16:50] <BigBlueDolphin> I meant a dolphin plush.
639 [05:16:56] <annadane> i woudn't recommend parrot, but still
640 [05:17:09] <BazookaTooth> ^
641 [05:17:14] <annadane> not to a new user willy-nilly, that is
642 [05:17:41] <oiaohm> BazookaTooth: Debian was always a binary distribution. My oldest upgraded in place install and cloned from harddrive to hardrive tracks back to 1996.
643 [05:17:50] <BazookaTooth> kali is still defacto unless custom toolsets.. then we get into arch and blah blah
644 [05:18:04] <BigBlueDolphin> I hate how Ubuntu uses Debian. They ruined GNU/Linux with telemetry.
645 [05:18:17] <BazookaTooth> my laptop runs kali from metal because low ram
646 [05:18:31] <BazookaTooth> most should be doing vm
647 [05:18:34] <BigBlueDolphin> It introduced a bunch of dumber users who believe the GUI is better than the terminal.
648 [05:19:30] <oiaohm> BazookaTooth: one of the reasons for parrot usage by me is lower ram requirement than kali to function right.
649 [05:19:36] <BazookaTooth> they also seemed to have hired someone with ux experiance because it got better recently
650 [05:19:41] <oiaohm> I do use BlackArch
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652 [05:19:44] <oiaohm> as well.
653 [05:20:00] <BazookaTooth> my main is blackarch but most of the tools are in default arch repos
654 [05:20:29] <oiaohm> Of course parrot, blackarch.. Security testing distributions are really not for the beginner who can be careless.
655 [05:20:45] <oiaohm> There items that can get you into legal hell really quickly.
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657 [05:21:19] <BazookaTooth> then don't play with them if you don't know why you need the tools in the first place
658 [05:21:51] <oiaohm> yet you see a lot of noobies running kali to be cool.
659 [05:22:02] <BazookaTooth> parrot basically stole the tor switch from someone else so, not fond
660 [05:22:28] <BazookaTooth> they broke ipv6 a few times which was enough to ignore them
661 [05:23:37] <oiaohm> kali has broken the complete network stack a few times as well. Broken ipv6 is kind of better than broken network stack totally making a pentration test fail when it should have suceed so you reported fault.
662 [05:23:43] <annadane> the main issue is people coming with parrot or kali, into #debian looking for help - people who know what they're doing wouldn't do that, so you can safely assume they shouldn't use them
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664 [05:24:10] <annadane> now, these distros have a nasty habit of setting the default channel to #debian
665 [05:24:15] <annadane> which is not the user's fault
666 [05:24:17] <annadane> still...
667 [05:24:46] <BigBlueDolphin> Don't forget about those terrible $10 udemy courses about "ethical haxxing".
668 [05:25:11] <BazookaTooth> well yes and no. kali broke on me during an offsec course and i didnt get help in the kali channel. i did get help here tho but i had plenty linux experience
669 [05:25:29] <BazookaTooth> udemy can die
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671 [05:25:39] <BazookaTooth> they all just rip each other off
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674 [05:26:35] <BazookaTooth> that whole "dont use root" thing.. if you run metasploit on debian versus kali.. big difference
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676 [05:27:24] <BazookaTooth> most of the tools used on kali need root, so this is why you run it in a vm
677 [05:27:56] <BazookaTooth> arch has similar thing with metasploit not letting you run metasploit as root
678 [05:28:39] <oiaohm> To be correct needing something to run as root does not mean you have to run the complete desktop as root.
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682 [05:29:06] <BazookaTooth> when you need to be fast...
683 [05:29:24] <BazookaTooth> root makes sense with kali
684 [05:29:27] <oiaohm> BazookaTooth: No running complete desktop as root can in fact result in slower.
685 [05:29:58] <oiaohm> So running complete desktop as root does not make sense is sign of lazy.
686 [05:30:16] <BazookaTooth> lack of clear purpose
687 [05:30:28] <BazookaTooth> kali isnt looking youtube and snapchat
688 [05:30:38] <oiaohm> I am talking about pentration testing.
689 [05:30:53] <oiaohm> Not all things that you run in pentration testing need root either.
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693 [05:31:13] <BazookaTooth> then you know the difference between running kali and running arch with black repos?
694 [05:31:26] <BigBlueDolphin> WinBlows 98 is terrible
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696 [05:31:40] <BazookaTooth> kali is faster
697 [05:31:56] <oiaohm> BigBlueDolphin: Yes and the differences in performance after customised
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699 [05:32:02] <BigBlueDolphin> Does anybody hate those eBay sellers who sell a LibreOffice download link?
700 [05:32:15] <oiaohm> BigBlueDolphin: arch with black repos does not have as optimised kernel.
701 [05:32:25] <BazookaTooth> oh wow
702 [05:32:30] <oiaohm> BigBlueDolphin: that can come back and bite you with kali.
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705 [05:32:51] <BazookaTooth> this is what i sound like sometimes so..
706 [05:32:59] <BigBlueDolphin> Somebodies triggered in their safe space.
707 [05:33:15] <BazookaTooth> given that he's aiming at you and not me?
708 [05:33:18] <BazookaTooth> dunno
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710 [05:33:48] <oiaohm> kali has a kernel with alterations to the network stack to help with wifi pentration testing. This can at times hurt your cabled in network scans.
711 [05:33:53] <BigBlueDolphin> How can I get a HP ScanJet 4400c working under Debian? Do I have to recompile the kernel (found article on it)?
712 [05:34:00] <BazookaTooth> kali expects you to know wtf you are doing
713 [05:34:06] <oiaohm> BigBlueDolphin: so kali is not always faster.
714 [05:34:16] <oiaohm> Also can screw up horriblely as well.
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716 [05:34:33] <oiaohm> Because of somethings done to make it faster.
717 [05:34:43] <LaurentDumont> I'm not sure I would run my daily desktop with Kali :|
718 [05:35:30] <BazookaTooth> laptop with 4gb ram.. better to bare metal
719 [05:36:30] <BazookaTooth> people still think kali is a script kiddie distro. the kids are getting faster and just using to abuse
720 [05:37:00] <BigBlueDolphin> Blame YouTube for it
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722 [05:37:18] <BazookaTooth> for teaching dhs how kids are breaking into things?
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725 [05:37:52] <BazookaTooth> we have all these new 3 and 4 letter agencies that still suck
726 [05:37:55] <oiaohm> BigBlueDolphin: replaced-url
727 [05:38:29] <BazookaTooth> blame youtube
728 [05:39:05] <BigBlueDolphin> Thanks, oiaohm, I'll try it out.
729 [05:39:29] <BigBlueDolphin> sudo apt install -y xsane time
730 [05:39:33] <oiaohm> BigBlueDolphin: libsane-extras replaced-url
731 [05:39:47] <oiaohm> BigBlueDolphin: or if its now all mainline xsane
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733 [05:40:29] <BigBlueDolphin> and I'm out of desk space thanks to my 27" 4K (Asus @ 1440p 60fps) and CRT monitor (Viewsonic G90F+)
734 [05:40:49] <LaurentDumont> Why a CRT?
735 [05:40:58] <BigBlueDolphin> Older systems, like XP, etc.
736 [05:41:20] <BazookaTooth> that model is really good..used them for autocad
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738 [05:41:36] <oiaohm> BigBlueDolphin: replaced-url
739 [05:41:40] <BazookaTooth> g9* 21 inchers
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741 [05:42:09] <BigBlueDolphin> Got it from my Dad's work. There were 4, but my Dad could only carry 2 of them (one of them was a crap Chinese Hitachi that has bad caps).
742 [05:42:31] <oiaohm> Even for old systems I don't use CRT any more.
743 [05:42:33] <BazookaTooth> yeah they weigh like 60#
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745 [05:42:52] <BazookaTooth> well if he's got access to em
746 [05:43:00] <BigBlueDolphin> No, they are 24kg and it's a 19 incher.
747 [05:43:08] <BazookaTooth> BOO
748 [05:43:14] <LaurentDumont> They are just so heavy and so long.
749 [05:43:19] <BazookaTooth> hehe
750 [05:43:26] <LaurentDumont> Take a crap load of space. Not even sure I could make it fit on my current desk.
751 [05:43:40] <BazookaTooth> yes.. some people in here dont even know wtf a crt is
752 [05:43:45] <BigBlueDolphin> Doom 1 under DOS is crisp. I have 2 desks, and one of them is Australian-made, so I can accommodate 3 of them
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756 [05:45:01] <BigBlueDolphin> xsane works with it!
757 [05:45:02] <BigBlueDolphin> Thanks!
758 [05:45:33] <oiaohm> BigBlueDolphin: so extras package no longer required. I last had to deal with one of those 5 years ago.
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763 [05:46:32] <BigBlueDolphin> The Viewsonic CRT has a slight scratch on it thanks to how my Dad handled it while carrying it to the car (500m).
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765 [05:46:58] <BazookaTooth> measured a 21 incher in my garage.. 28 inches long
766 [05:47:03] <BazookaTooth> XD
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768 [05:47:51] <BazookaTooth> the whole explosive cathode tube thing is also amusing
769 [05:48:08] <BigBlueDolphin> They don't explode, they just fail.
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771 [05:48:17] <BazookaTooth> disposal manuals on how to pop the cathode
772 [05:48:23] <oiaohm> BigBlueDolphin: replaced-url
773 [05:48:45] <oiaohm> Modern LCD is a lot lighter.
774 [05:49:04] <BigBlueDolphin> I know. I have loads of these adaptors anyways from my Dad's work. They were sealed and new.
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776 [05:49:17] <BigBlueDolphin> I have 2 LCDs, but I love my CRT.
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779 [05:51:50] <BazookaTooth> you know those projector bulbs from older style theatres from the same era? the maintenance teams look like eod. they shatter the glass on the cars in the parking lot when tossed off the roof
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781 [05:53:09] <BazookaTooth> learned why much later but still interesting
782 [05:53:40] <BazookaTooth> everything is digital now so.. not so fun
783 [05:54:02] <oiaohm> Some projectors are still using horrible bulbs.
784 [05:54:18] <BazookaTooth> they are awesome
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786 [05:54:46] <BazookaTooth> and your maintenance guys where bomb suits to replace the bulbs
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788 [05:55:16] <BazookaTooth> if not.. then not talking about same era projectors but whatever
789 [05:55:48] <BazookaTooth> the projection house was built to stop a grenade for the same reason
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792 [05:57:01] <BazookaTooth> mentioned this last year or something.. seems familiar
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796 [05:58:23] <oiaohm> BazookaTooth: Yes the destruction instructions is still put bubble in particular case and drop it until bulb shatters.
797 [05:58:36] <oiaohm> BazookaTooth: bubble/bulb
798 [05:58:50] <oiaohm> What may end being 3 stories.
799 [05:58:54] <BazookaTooth> yeah we just tossed them off the room and learned to park on the other side of the lot
800 [05:59:00] <BazookaTooth> roof
801 [05:59:14] <BazookaTooth> was def 3 stories
802 [05:59:41] <oiaohm> Using proper case to prevent glass going everywhere or not.
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804 [05:59:56] <BazookaTooth> bunch of high theatre kids?
805 [05:59:59] <BazookaTooth> cmon
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808 [06:01:09] <BazookaTooth> anyway.. yeah i got concerned when saw the eod looking guys come in and they were like.. "we need to change the bulb on xyz" XD
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811 [06:02:53] <BazookaTooth> fight club "cigarette burn" comment still kinda urks me. using those stupid tape machines was terrible
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827 [06:13:48] <BazookaTooth> oiaohm: are those still around?
828 [06:14:09] <BazookaTooth> offtopic but wildly curious
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837 [06:18:53] <bigbluedolphin> Hi. My HP ScanJet 4400c gives me a broken pipe error in xsane
838 [06:18:58] <bigbluedolphin> under Debian 10.
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849 [06:41:59] <bigbluedolphin> Outrageous: replaced-url
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852 [06:44:05] <annadane> okay, we get it...
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854 [06:45:14] <oiaohm> bigbluedolphin: replaced-url
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856 [06:45:28] <bigbluedolphin> Thanks.
857 [06:45:54] <bigbluedolphin> and I already have it installed :(
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867 [06:52:45] <annadane> if i want to file a bug against the su man page, what do i enter as the package in reportbug?
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871 [06:55:21] <annadane> nvm, will go ask in #debian-bugs
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874 [06:59:35] <nvz> annadane: util-linux
875 [06:59:58] <annadane> yeah, figured it out
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884 [07:02:42] <nvz> or just put Package: util-linux Version: 2.33.1-0.1 as the first two lines of an email to submit@bugs.debian.org with a concise subject line indicating that there is an problem with the su manpage.. like a normal human being :D
885 [07:02:56] * nvz hates reportbug
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895 [07:15:44] <warsoul> just installed freebsd
896 [07:15:51] <warsoul> but dont see it bootable on the grub
897 [07:15:53] <warsoul> how can i add it?
898 [07:16:11] <annadane> freebsd... is not... debian
899 [07:16:16] <annadane> /join #freebsd
900 [07:16:49] <annadane> oh, shared grub between debian and freebsd. okay, but i'd probably ask there
901 [07:16:59] <diogenes_> warsoul, you need custom.cfg for BSD.
902 [07:18:23] <warsoul> diogenes_ how i do that
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905 [07:20:38] <diogenes_> warsoul, create /boot/grub/custom.cfg
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907 [07:21:10] <diogenes_> and there you add the entry for BSD.
908 [07:21:17] <warsoul> diogenes_ how i add the entry
909 [07:21:18] <warsoul> ?
910 [07:21:44] <diogenes_> warsoul, i'll pastebin.
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913 [07:22:24] <warsoul> ok
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1113 [10:19:31] <crivrc> hi, I have two disks, set up /var /home / and /usr as raid partitions using lvm using both disk. When I try booting with one of the disks missing I end up in a shell, the partitions / and /usr are mounted properly, but logical volumes for /var and /home have LV Status as "NOT available" If I type lvchange -ay --activationmode degraded then they no longer show as "NOT available" however I don't know how to
1114 [10:19:32] <crivrc> make it work automatically at boot up.
1115 [10:20:02] <crivrc> this is raid1 by the way
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1122 [10:23:13] <ws2k3> i have multiple public keys. does ssh offer all of them when sshing into a server?
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1124 [10:25:19] <jelly> ws2k3, if they use default names/paths, yes, but it tries them in turn, so if one is accepted it does not try more
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1128 [10:27:16] <jelly> you can easily verify which files a process opens: strace -eopen,openat ssh foo@bar
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1140 [10:31:19] <ws2k3> jelly: interesting. i switched from gnome to kde. but suddenly one ssh key is not working anymore for one spesific target... i already tryed to ssh -i mykey target. and then it works. so it looks like the key is not offered in that case. also when i use -v then im not seeing it
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1146 [10:34:19] <jelly> ws2k3, it's possible it's a custom key path and you added it to the gnome-specific ssh agent, but kde uses a different agent
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1148 [10:35:07] <jelly> (I have no idea which ssh agent either of those two DEs use)
1149 [10:35:07] <ws2k3> jelly: suddenly it works again. yes i suspect the agent. cause the first tiem i sshed manualy it asked for the password. and now git pull works again
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1174 [10:58:03] <hatter__> just trying to update from stretch to buster and this happened : dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/uswsusp_1.0+20120915-6.2_i386.deb (--unpack):
1175 [10:59:16] <towo`> that's not the whole message
1176 [10:59:17] <jelly> !bat
1177 [10:59:18] <dpkg> [Basic Apt* Troubleshooting]. To diagnose your problem, we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
1178 [10:59:23] <jelly> hatter__, ^
1179 [10:59:24] <towo`> try apt -f install
1180 [10:59:38] <towo`> and paste the whole error
1181 [10:59:42] <jelly> no, don't try ANYTHING before you show the whole output
1182 [10:59:54] <jelly> and the command you ran, please
1183 [11:00:24] <hatter__> too late, I ran apt -f install...
1184 [11:00:24] <jelly> if you followed the docs you'll have the whole output stored with script command in a file
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1190 [11:01:16] <hatter__> The last command was apt-get upgrade after changing the sources.list to buster and doing apt-get update
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1192 [11:01:51] <hatter__> will it break now after hastily running apt -f install ?
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1195 [11:02:35] <jelly> probably not any more than it broke already, but it's hard to say without whole output
1196 [11:02:54] <hatter__> ok, we will see shortly...
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1198 [11:03:07] <jelly> or as much output as you can gather
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1200 [11:04:00] <jelly> eg. if you have a disk full situation trying to make apt do more work might just generate more errors
1201 [11:04:28] <hatter__> replaced-url
1202 [11:04:30] <jelly> ,v uswsusp --arch i386
1203 [11:04:31] <judd> Package: uswsusp on i386 -- jessie: 1.0+20120915-6; stretch: 1.0+20120915-6.1+b1; bullseye: 1.0+20120915-6.2; buster: 1.0+20120915-6.2; sid: 1.0+20120915-6.2
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1207 [11:05:15] <jelly> hatter__, that's still not enough output, and also it's different
1208 [11:05:38] <hatter__> ok, I am back to apt-get upgrade
1209 [11:05:41] <hatter__> here is the output
1210 [11:05:59] <hatter__> replaced-url
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1213 [11:07:07] <jelly> you keep doing commands that change more things on the system instead of showing what happens, perhaps someone else can help you but I can't
1214 [11:07:12] <hatter__> output of apt-cache policy uswsusp
1215 [11:07:38] <hatter__> it's the same as the original issue
1216 [11:07:51] <hatter__> jelly, but thx anyway :)
1217 [11:09:30] <hatter__> uswsusp is to do with suspend which I don't need, can I remove it or stop it from trying to install ?
1218 [11:09:42] <jelly> that's weird. you can probably get rid of uswsusp completely, and use normal hibernation
1219 [11:09:59] <hatter__> I don't need hybernation at all on this box
1220 [11:10:07] <jelly> dpkg --remove uswsusp
1221 [11:10:07] * dpkg rips the still-beating uswsusp from jelly's chest, leaving jelly in a coma.
1222 [11:10:08] <hatter__> it's older hardware, so perhaps it's a driver issue
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1225 [11:11:34] <jelly> uswsusp was useful around debian 5-7 or so
1226 [11:12:32] <hatter__> well, that remove got rid of that error, now there is a heap more. perhaps from my apt -f install.
1227 [11:12:38] * diogenes_ has no clue how to pronounce uswsusp.
1228 [11:13:19] <hatter__> replaced-url
1229 [11:14:33] <hatter__> doesn't look like I need pcscd
1230 [11:15:00] <hatter__> or aumix-common
1231 [11:15:24] <jelly> you have lots of cruft for even older versions of debian than debian 9
1232 [11:15:30] <jelly> from* older versions
1233 [11:15:44] <hatter__> jelly, it seems that way
1234 [11:16:02] <hatter__> is console-setup just for GUI >
1235 [11:16:03] <hatter__> ?
1236 [11:16:08] <jelly> packages for all those init scripts that insserv complains about need to be purged
1237 [11:16:17] <jelly> ,v console-setup
1238 [11:16:18] <judd> Package: console-setup on amd64 -- jessie: 1.123; stretch: 1.164; buster: 1.193~deb10u1; bullseye: 1.194; sid: 1.194
1239 [11:16:32] <jelly> hatter__, no
1240 [11:17:15] <hatter__> I just removed pcscd and aumix-common
1241 [11:17:27] <hatter__> now it errors on console-setup-linux and console-setup
1242 [11:18:06] <hatter__> what is the 'hurd' package ?
1243 [11:19:29] <hatter__> replaced-url
1244 [11:19:43] <hatter__> apt-cache policy console-setup-linux
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1247 [11:20:50] <jelly> are you 100% sure this system was on debian 9 before?
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1249 [11:21:59] <jelly> hatter__, what does dpkg -l $(dpkg -S /etc/init.d/cupsys|cut -f1 -d:) say
1250 [11:22:07] <hatter__> jelly... um... geez i hope so, It was an older one and I just took it up from 7 to 8, then 8 to 9, so I am hoping I didn't stuff that up...
1251 [11:22:51] <hatter__> rc cupsys 1.2.7-4+etch9 i386 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - server
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1253 [11:23:11] <jelly> and it has cruft from debian 4
1254 [11:23:33] <hatter__> actually, this one was 6 first, then 7, then 8, then 9,
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1256 [11:23:40] <hatter__> so yeah, it was old.
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1259 [11:23:56] <hatter__> it doesn't do much, just a samba server
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1264 [11:25:54] <jelly> hatter__, clean up those init scripts, for each script that insserv complained about, find out which package it belongs to: "dpkg -S /etc/init.d/cupsys", then verify the package is not installed any more: "dpkg -l cupsys", then delete the leftover conffiles including the init script: "dpkg --purge cupsys"
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1266 [11:26:18] <hatter__> jelly, ok thx, I will try that
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1268 [11:27:08] <jelly> I think docs say to clean up that kind of stuff after every release upgrade
1269 [11:27:25] <hatter__> jelly, ah, there is heaps of old crap on this box
1270 [11:27:38] <hatter__> what is the command to remove the entire desktop environment ?
1271 [11:27:46] <jelly> (this particular package should have been purged after debian 4 -> 5 release upgrade)
1272 [11:28:27] <hatter__> sorry for being lazy, I can google that
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1274 [11:29:40] <jelly> you won't find a simple answer, it depends on the DE and debian release and is not really a simple issue
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1276 [11:30:05] <hatter__> ah fair enough, gnome is on this box
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1292 [11:45:20] <crivrc> Hi, any idea why an lvm logical volume in raid1 is not activated at boot when the mirror is disconnected? shouldn't at least the remaining mirror allow the volume to be activated?
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1333 [12:17:04] <antonio89p> ciao
1334 [12:17:48] <antonio89p> !list
1335 [12:17:48] <dpkg> antonio89p: È possibile scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a replaced-url
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1341 [12:23:11] <mpfusion> Is there an RSS feed for iso releases?
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1348 [12:28:32] <rephlexie> mpfusion, replaced-url
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1365 [12:34:21] <mpfusion> rephlexie: Thanks for that info. But as it seems that's all sorts of general information. I'm looking for a feed only for iso releases (too add to torrent client), which I haven't found so far.
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1384 [12:39:30] <jaggz> Can't use string ("") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at /usr/bin/debtree line 325.
1385 [12:39:34] <jaggz> grr
1386 [12:40:43] <jelly> your perl sucks!
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1388 [12:41:01] <jaggz> where can I submit a patch?
1389 [12:41:47] <jelly> you can report a bug, add the tag "patch", and attach it there
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1391 [12:42:09] <jelly> or even inline it if it's short enough, eh
1392 [12:42:34] <jelly> ,v debtree
1393 [12:42:35] <judd> Package: debtree on amd64 -- jessie: 1.0.10; buster: 1.0.10+nmu1; stretch: 1.0.10+nmu1; bullseye: 1.1.0; sid: 1.1.0
1394 [12:42:59] <jelly> !reportbug
1395 [12:42:59] <dpkg> reportbug is used to submit bugs to the Debian <BTS>. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. See replaced-url
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1398 [12:45:32] <jaggz> jelly, replaced-url
1399 [12:45:42] <jaggz> not sure if it's good but maybe it'll be.. inspirational
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1402 [12:48:39] <Alexloco75co> Hello world! ( Í¡° ͜ʖ Í¡°)
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1414 [12:54:13] <jaggz> (that's not the fix.. hmm)
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1425 [13:02:44] <jaggz> I'm trying to use debtree to see why I have tons of i386 packages installed..
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1427 [13:04:08] <jelly> jaggz, what does "dpkg --print-architecture" say? If it says i386, that'd be a reason why :-)
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1430 [13:05:07] <jaggz> jelly, amd64
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1432 [13:05:29] <jelly> aptitude why libc6:i386
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1437 [13:07:40] <jaggz> that shows just one: i libsndio6.1:i386 Depends libc6:i386 (>= 2.16)
1438 [13:08:15] <jaggz> why on that shows more: replaced-url
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1448 [13:11:15] <jaggz> I removed libsndio6.1:i386 and now why on libc6:i386 shows a different package.. grr
1449 [13:11:55] <jaggz> shouldn't aptitude why show me a full list of dependencies?
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1455 [13:16:48] <jaggz> libmfx0:i386 Depends libc6:i386 (>= 2.4)
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1457 [13:17:42] <jaggz> yeah.. each time it shows me one. I remove that, it shows me another.
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1459 [13:18:49] <jaggz> (jelly, by the way, reportbugs on debtree shows me testing has a newer version than my buster)
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1461 [13:20:17] <sweep90> What are the base packages I need to install for the xfce4 desktop without installing the whole xfce4 group?
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1475 [13:25:36] <jelly> jaggz, you could backport or grab that version and see if it's any better
1476 [13:26:10] <jaggz> jelly, thanks
1477 [13:26:27] <jaggz> the whole reason for this is because I'm trying to compile a project and a library it uses is erroring on link
1478 [13:26:32] <jaggz> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/liblept.so.5: undefined reference to `TIFFReadScanline@LIBTIFF_4.0'
1479 [13:26:34] <jelly> sweep90, you can "apt-cache show task-xfce-desktop" and see what the task pulls in
1480 [13:26:39] <jaggz> a ton of references to libtiff4
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1483 [13:27:02] <jaggz> buster's libtiff4 is referenced by another package
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1485 [13:27:28] <jelly> jaggz, you probably have a custom built libtiff.so.4 somewhere.
1486 [13:27:36] <jelly> jaggz, ldd /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/liblept.so.5
1487 [13:27:38] <Ede|Popede> sweep90: the dependencies from `apt-cache show xfce4` should give you a hint.
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1493 [13:28:32] <jaggz> libtiff.so.5 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtiff.so.5
1494 [13:28:43] <jaggz> that looks good.. hrmm. no other tiff's in that
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1502 [13:35:02] <jaggz> found one or two others online with this issue with liblept5 referring to tiff_4.0... no replies about it
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1509 [13:39:24] <jaggz> here's one with a not so helpful link to fix (someone having the issue when building opencv) replaced-url
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1514 [13:44:02] <jaggz> what a pain. looks like liblept5 might somehow be referring to libtiff4 symbols. grep -a TIFFReadScan /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/liblept.so.5 | sed -e 's/\x0/\n/g' | grep TIFF shows a bunch of the TIFF symbols, then shows a line "LIBTIFF_4.0"
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1532 [14:04:01] <bigbluedolphin> Hi
1533 [14:04:07] <jelly> jaggz, which packages and versions do both packages belong to? Maybe you have something mismatched
1534 [14:04:33] <jelly> jaggz, careful to dererefence symlinks before dpkg -S
1535 [14:04:49] <bigbluedolphin> I tried to run Debian 2.x on a Pentium 4 Space heater and it craps its self on mounting the drives. It's a LGA 775 system.
1536 [14:04:49] <jaggz> jelly, what I'm building is not from debian (trying to build replaced-url
1537 [14:05:09] <bigbluedolphin> I'm going to try Debian 3.x instead for fun.
1538 [14:05:15] <jaggz> liblept is apparently a common image processing lib -- it was apparently installed with leptonica for use by tesseract (ocr software)
1539 [14:05:25] <bigbluedolphin> The installation seems harder though. Is it really that different?
1540 [14:05:41] <jelly> jaggz, irrelevant, library A from debian should not reference nonexisting symbols in library B from debian
1541 [14:06:26] <jelly> ,file x86_64-linux-gnu/liblept.so.5
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1543 [14:06:30] <judd> Search for x86_64-linux-gnu/liblept.so.5 in buster/amd64: liblept5: usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/liblept.so.5
1544 [14:07:02] <jaggz> yeah.. maybe it was built on something that had libtiff4 and.. it's confused
1545 [14:07:54] <jaggz> jelly, i'm not sure which versions to provide. liblept5 is 1.76.0-1
1546 [14:07:58] <jelly> bigbluedolphin, which debian 2.x? Which 3.x? Pentium 4 might be a 2002 system
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1548 [14:08:11] <jelly> ,v liblept5
1549 [14:08:12] <judd> Package: liblept5 on amd64 -- stretch: 1.74.1-1; stretch-backports: 1.76.0-1~bpo9+1; buster: 1.76.0-1; bullseye: 1.78.0-2+b1; sid: 1.78.0-2+b1
1550 [14:08:31] <jelly> okay, that looks like default buster
1551 [14:08:33] <jaggz> I purged libtiff4 (it had 'c') .. it's now gone and not even listed :)
1552 [14:09:02] <jelly> jaggz, also, to build something you're going to need -dev packages installed
1553 [14:09:37] <hugo__> Hello all, i noticed "route" (net-tools) does not installed anymore on several distrib. What shoud i use instead ?
1554 [14:09:53] <jelly> hugo__, ip route ...
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1556 [14:10:45] <jaggz> jelly, yeah. I used their project's deps as documented.. but this libtiff_4.0 reference thing seems to be something else
1557 [14:10:50] <jelly> hugo__, you can also install net-tools back if you need a quick fix, but some output formats have changed
1558 [14:10:53] <jaggz> (something with liblept5's build)
1559 [14:10:56] <hugo__> jelly, so many thanks
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1561 [14:12:10] <jaggz> jelly, I guess it might be time to go to testing
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1563 [14:14:54] <jaggz> (since I was reporting a bug in liblept5 but noticed [what you already showed in ,v above] the newer version)
1564 [14:15:11] <jaggz> hard to miss, with reportbug! :)
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1575 [14:19:25] <bigbluedolphin> Ding dong, what's your favourite DE?
1576 [14:19:56] <Habbie> bigbluedolphin, i'm using gnome3 as it comes with debian buster and i'm very happy
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1588 [14:25:02] <OnceMe> if I have one public IP X, can I create multiple app1.mysite.com app2.mysite.com mapped to different internal ips and ports with maybe bind9?
1589 [14:25:09] <petn-randall> bigbluedolphin: Most people in here don't like surveys. You can ask it in #debian-offtopic though, where people might respond.
1590 [14:25:29] <petn-randall> bigbluedolphin: Unless you have an actual support question, then it's best if you ask that straight away.
1591 [14:27:08] <petn-randall> bigbluedolphin: There's no need to PM me unless asked.
1592 [14:27:27] <petn-randall> (I can't read it because I have PM disabled)
1593 [14:27:38] <bigbluedolphin> Oh, okay.
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1595 [14:31:04] <OnceMe> any ideas?
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1597 [14:32:17] <Habbie> OnceMe, bind9 can point multiple names at the same public IP; it is then up to the specific protocol to route things based on name. HTTP can do this, in which case you'd want a http proxy running on your public IP
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1599 [14:32:41] <petn-randall> OnceMe: No.
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1601 [14:33:56] <B|ack0p> hi
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1603 [14:34:13] <petn-randall> OnceMe: You can create multiple domain names pointing to the same IP, but usually the server doesn't see what domain name the client resolved. However, HTTP(S) can send the servername, and you can configure your server to show different web pages depending on that.
1604 [14:34:13] <B|ack0p> how can i see usb stick in terminal?
1605 [14:34:15] <nyov> OnceMe: you can use NAT to route multiple different ports on the host with the one public IP to different internal IPs.
1606 [14:34:24] <B|ack0p> sda sdb ?
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1608 [14:35:04] <petn-randall> B|ack0p: Are you trying to mount the USB stick?
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1611 [14:35:51] <B|ack0p> no i wanna find out what is my usb stick
1612 [14:35:58] <B|ack0p> to use DD command
1613 [14:36:15] <bigbluedolphin> lsblk to find the USB
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1615 [14:36:33] <B|ack0p> thx
1616 [14:36:47] <bigbluedolphin> run sudo /dev/[your USB logical name] /mnt (or another directory).
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1618 [14:37:42] <bigbluedolphin> An example of the logical name would be /dev/sdb
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1620 [14:37:54] <jelly> bigbluedolphin, sudo what?
1621 [14:38:27] <OnceMe> nyov whats wrong with having a reverse proxy?
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1623 [14:39:45] <petn-randall> OnceMe: Your service needs to have a concept of virtualhosts for reverse proxy to work.
1624 [14:39:47] <nyov> OnceMe: that depends on how you coin the term reverse proxy, I guess. How is NAT not a proxy?
1625 [14:40:10] <nyov> oki i gotta go sober up
1626 [14:40:20] <jelly> OnceMe, there's nothing wrong with a reverse proxy, if you need is a single type of service (eg. only https)
1627 [14:40:25] <petn-randall> nyov: Nat wouldn't be a proxy for me in any definition.
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1630 [14:41:47] <nyov> well, it proxies something. is my definition :p
1631 [14:42:57] <jelly> petn-randall, TLS with SNI is enough, the service in the backend doesn't have to know in-protocol VirtualHosts
1632 [14:43:23] <jelly> but you need a client that does SNI, and not all eg. mail clients do
1633 [14:44:29] <petn-randall> jelly: That works until your client does TLS shadowing.
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1635 [14:45:08] <petn-randall> (I think that's the term)
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1639 [14:45:48] <jelly> I have no idea what that is :-)
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1646 [14:47:53] <nyov> petn-randall: explain, explain! in offtopic. I'm interested
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1649 [14:48:58] <jelly> you need to first BE in #debian-offtopic for that to work, nyov
1650 [14:49:22] <nyov> oh my bad. i'm on oftc ot
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1652 [14:49:37] <jelly> that's an inferior copy
1653 [14:49:56] <nyov> heh, petn-randall was there :P
1654 [14:49:57] <jelly> (well no, maybe it's better now)
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1658 [14:50:52] <B|ack0p> hi
1659 [14:50:57] <B|ack0p> $ sudo dd if=debian-10.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso of=dev/sdb
1660 [14:50:57] <B|ack0p> dd: failed to open 'dev/sdb': No such file or directory
1661 [14:51:06] <B|ack0p> what could be the problem?
1662 [14:51:14] * nyov hides
1663 [14:51:19] <B|ack0p> iso file is in home folder
1664 [14:51:47] <B|ack0p> actually it was in Downloads folder first but when i wrote full directory /home/user/Downloads/debian.iso it gave same error
1665 [14:52:47] <B|ack0p> maybe usb stick doesnt mount?
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1667 [14:52:54] <petn-randall> B|ack0p: dev/sdb is not the same as /dev/sdb.
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1669 [14:53:15] <B|ack0p> hmm
1670 [14:53:25] <petn-randall> B|ack0p: If you have problems with such basics I'd take extra steps to verify it's the right block device. Otherwise you might wipe your system.
1671 [14:53:47] <B|ack0p> well lsblk shows it is sdb
1672 [14:54:34] <B|ack0p> $ dd if=debian-10.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdb
1673 [14:54:34] <B|ack0p> dd: failed to open '/dev/sdb': Permission denied
1674 [14:54:37] <B|ack0p> same
1675 [14:54:48] <towo`> be root
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1677 [14:54:58] <B|ack0p> ah yes root
1678 [14:55:01] <B|ack0p> working now
1679 [14:55:01] <B|ack0p> thx
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1683 [14:56:00] <dvs> B|ack0p, if you are going to try and install over wifi, you'd be better off with the firmware ISO
1684 [14:56:42] <B|ack0p> dvs which iso is that?
1685 [14:56:56] <B|ack0p> my usb stick is only 512mb
1686 [14:57:17] <petn-randall> B|ack0p: It's practically the same size, just contains the firmware that most wifi devices need to work.
1687 [14:57:26] <petn-randall> !firmware installer
1688 [14:57:26] <dpkg> Debian-Installer is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See replaced-url
1689 [14:57:38] <petn-randall> !firmware images
1690 [14:57:39] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> and DVD images containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages are available from replaced-url
1691 [14:57:39] <dvs> B|ack0p, [ISO] firmware-10.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso
1692 [14:57:42] <B|ack0p> petn-randall: it would be perfect then
1693 [14:57:52] <petn-randall> B|ack0p: Link is above. ^^^
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1700 [14:59:01] <B|ack0p> oh it seems complicated
1701 [14:59:07] <dvs> ???
1702 [14:59:08] <B|ack0p> isnt there ready iso file with firmware?
1703 [14:59:27] <dvs> B|ack0p, replaced-url
1704 [14:59:36] <B|ack0p> Example #1: add debs from firmware.cpio.gz
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1706 [15:00:11] <B|ack0p> dvs: thx
1707 [15:00:13] <B|ack0p> there are 2 isos
1708 [15:00:16] <dvs> np
1709 [15:00:19] <B|ack0p> firmware and firmware-edu
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1711 [15:00:23] <B|ack0p> what s the differenc?
1712 [15:00:39] <dvs> <petn-randall> B|ack0p: It's practically the same size, just contains the firmware that most wifi devices need to work.
1713 [15:00:52] <dvs> OH sorry
1714 [15:01:02] <bigbluedolphin> replaced-url
1715 [15:01:04] <dvs> B|ack0p, I don't use the edu version
1716 [15:01:14] <B|ack0p> ok
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1718 [15:01:56] <B|ack0p> so with this iso will it automatically install my intel-wifi driver during installation so no need to install non-free after installation?
1719 [15:02:18] <dvs> yes
1720 [15:02:23] <B|ack0p> thx god
1721 [15:02:32] <B|ack0p> it was hard work for me :p
1722 [15:02:39] <B|ack0p> i mean thx dvs not god lol
1723 [15:03:05] <B|ack0p> btw i will clean install just xfce
1724 [15:03:13] <B|ack0p> hope it works fine this time..
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1727 [15:03:27] <B|ack0p> i think it is better DE with others i tested
1728 [15:03:43] <dvs> To each their own
1729 [15:03:56] <B|ack0p> huh?
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1732 [15:04:28] <dvs> That's why there are so many DEs. Everyone likes what they want.
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1736 [15:05:29] <B|ack0p> yea
1737 [15:05:36] <B|ack0p> what do you like dvs ?
1738 [15:05:40] <dvs> KDE
1739 [15:05:47] <B|ack0p> plasma?
1740 [15:06:10] <bigbluedolphin> i3-gaps
1741 [15:06:14] <dvs> That's what's loaded but I don't know what the difference is without it.
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1746 [15:09:16] <B|ack0p> bbl installing again
1747 [15:09:17] <B|ack0p> exit
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1758 [15:15:34] <bigbluedolphin> bzu42988@zzrgg.com
1759 [15:15:38] <bigbluedolphin> replaced-url
1760 [15:15:41] <bigbluedolphin> SIEG HEIL
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1794 [15:48:25] <CrazyTux> how to install kde connect on Debian?
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1805 [15:52:31] <komunista> hi all
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1816 [16:00:12] <bonieerss> hello
1817 [16:00:28] <komunista> i today upgraded my stretch to buster, but i cannot get the mpd's http stream (httpd output) to work
1818 [16:00:28] <komunista> please, need i something special for it in buster?
1819 [16:00:47] <bonieerss> I want to install debian and I recall someone suggesting me an application which I can run from another linux system
1820 [16:00:57] <bonieerss> but I forgot the name!
1821 [16:01:45] <bonieerss> (more precisely: an application which will save me from getting an usb stick and placing netinstall image on it)
1822 [16:02:21] <lovetolearn> i'm not sure - maybe google is helpful :)
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1824 [16:02:36] <lovetolearn> before someone else answers here :)
1825 [16:02:43] <lovetolearn> who knows how long they will take
1826 [16:02:47] <lovetolearn> :)
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1828 [16:03:12] <bonieerss> yeah I already went the "search it on a search engine" route
1829 [16:03:18] <bonieerss> hence why I am firing here
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1831 [16:03:34] <lovetolearn> fire there some more xP xD
1832 [16:03:39] <nvz> bonieerss: debootstrap
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1834 [16:03:44] <lovetolearn> and here too :)
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1837 [16:06:05] <bonieerss> nvz: it was for other distros too
1838 [16:06:56] <nvz> hell if I know
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1849 [16:14:20] <jhutchins> bonieerss: You might be thinking of debootstrap
1850 [16:14:31] <jhutchins> !debootstrap
1851 [16:14:32] <dpkg> debootstrap can create a basic Debian system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a <chroot>. It is key to installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux system, ask me about <install guide>. replaced-url
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1903 [16:49:50] <centrix> I try to run cron as root from a console "cron -f -L 5", but no sing of activity.
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1907 [16:49:56] <centrix> Deb 10
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1909 [16:50:33] <centrix> I also created a crontab file, loaded with "crontab myfile", checked with "crontab -l", but still no sign of activity.
1910 [16:50:34] <greycat> you tried... to start cron... the daemon... by hand
1911 [16:50:48] <greycat> WHY are you attempting to start cron by hand?
1912 [16:51:26] <centrix> greycat, yes. As a matter of fact it is a docker container based on Debian 10.2
1913 [16:51:28] <greycat> please just say "because docker"
1914 [16:51:29] <petn-randall> centrix: What are you expecting it to do?
1915 [16:51:31] <greycat> HAHAHAHGAHAHAJHAHAHA
1916 [16:51:44] <petn-randall> greycat: you called it ;)
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1918 [16:52:13] <centrix> I currently have no choice that use cron in there.
1919 [16:52:28] <centrix> I am not the originator of applications ....
1920 [16:52:57] <centrix> Nor can I rebuild ... etc. Please focus on the fact that I should give it a try.
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1925 [16:54:42] <centrix> I admit that I posted the same question in the docker channel, but I am not sure where to direct my questions.
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1931 [16:58:40] <petn-randall> centrix: using docker to run cron jobs is like using a hammer to cut bread. There are tools that are better suited for the job.
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1934 [16:59:30] <petn-randall> Sure, we can help you with many steps to get you some smaller pieces of bread breaking of the loaf, but no matter how you put it the results will be not what you expect.
1935 [16:59:47] <greycat> I don't use docker, but people who do use it have explained to me that the intent is for it to run a SINGLE process in the container. Not to be a full-blown virtual machine with daemons flying about.
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1937 [17:01:01] <Bushmaster> does anyone is versed settign up apache media server from external hard drive?
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1939 [17:01:09] <greycat> If your containerized service is leaving crumbs all over the bed and you want to vacuum them up once a day, I would suggest doing the vacuuming from the real OS.
1940 [17:01:29] <jelly> people using tools for purposes other than designed? I am SHOCKED. Shocked I say! ... well, not that shocked.
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1942 [17:04:11] <centrix> I have no idea why customers insist on something we try to talk them out of. As I said. That is the way it is. Thanks for a help.
1943 [17:04:14] <jelly> see also: automating docker instantiation(sp?) plus a reverse proxy, calling it "k8s" and then forgetting to remember it's still technology not meant to keep state
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1946 [17:05:08] <Bushmaster> does anyone is versed settign up apache media server from external hard drive?
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1951 [17:05:50] <mtn> Bushmaster: make sure to tell them you are using Mint ;)
1952 [17:05:56] <jelly> shush!
1953 [17:06:00] <mtn> oops
1954 [17:06:28] * greycat wonders what on earth "apache media server" is
1955 [17:06:33] <jelly> let us waste 15 minutes figuring out why their system is broken in subtle ways, first
1956 [17:06:40] <mtn> heh
1957 [17:07:05] <jelly> I just symlink /media into the default DocumentRoot and AllowSymlinks
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1960 [17:07:40] <jelly> a bind mount would make apache not even notice that issue
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1965 [17:08:34] <Bushmaster> jelly: the problem I am having is declaring the path, for my external hard drive, even though I declared it it tells me Forbidden, you don't have access to the resource
1966 [17:08:47] <greycat> so "apache media server" is just "apache web server" with the word "web" crossed out and "media" written above it in crayon?
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1969 [17:09:25] <Bushmaster> greycat: I am a bushcat okay and I have cats, many of them
1970 [17:09:30] <jelly> greycat, pretty much. sometimes there's a dir. index switched on, so you can BROWSE directories
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1974 [17:10:34] <jelly> and click on files! (or more likely, some other media box is browsing and indexing your files.) It's like an, uh, ftp site
1975 [17:10:45] * jelly is sure greycat remembers ftp sites
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1977 [17:11:03] <greycat> I may have seen one of them in the distant past, yes
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1980 [17:12:01] <Bushmaster> jelly can you tell me why apache is not working with my external hard drive?
1981 [17:12:16] <jelly> Bushmaster, maybe you can specify what "I declared it [the path]" means in terms of actual VirtualHost configuration
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1983 [17:12:47] <Razva> I'm setting up a fstab cifs and I (obviously) cannot chown files on the cifs. What should I specify on the fstab entry in order to set it to use "no permissions"?
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1985 [17:13:08] <jelly> Bushmaster, and if you're not on actual Debian, ask in ##linux or I guess #httpd (but I personally am not in #httpd)
1986 [17:13:30] * jelly has issues hitting the 120 channel limit
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1988 [17:14:11] <Ede|Popede> jelly: replaced-url
1989 [17:14:17] <Ede|Popede> yes, ubuntu paste *shudder*
1990 [17:14:31] <lusrmgr> how can I easily turn on/off a HTTP proxy? I won't reload my browser so /etc/environment and http_proxy var is discarded. I've been looking for hours. I can't set a proxy in Chrome settings. This is so easy in Windows, you can do it with 3 clicks, why is using a proxy such a nightmare in an operating system that should specialize in things like
1991 [17:14:32] <lusrmgr> that?
1992 [17:14:34] <Ede|Popede> "create an account and log in to see the raw paste"
1993 [17:14:44] <Bushmaster> <Directory /media/bushcat/3ddb56c5-08f0-44ce-9e78-e3a21f13b7d5/Videos/> jelly
1994 [17:15:25] <jelly> Ede|Popede, are you and Bushmaster the same person? Not sure what that paste is about
1995 [17:15:44] <Bushmaster> Ede|Popede: how is it going
1996 [17:16:04] <Ede|Popede> jelly, was his paste from yesterday, asking the same question and running away before continuing to the next step
1997 [17:16:23] <greycat> lusrmgr: I have multiple Chrome execution commands in my window manager config file, for the various proxy setting that I might want it to use.
1998 [17:16:27] * Ede|Popede doesn't have any cats
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2000 [17:16:50] <greycat> + "&6. Chrome 9999" Exec exec /usr/bin/google-chrome --proxy-server=socks://localhost:9999 --enable-easy-off-store-extension-install
2001 [17:17:06] <Bushmaster> i am seeking some significant consultation to resolve my apache issue without too much wind blowing
2002 [17:17:12] <lusrmgr> greycat yeah, not an option to me, I can't be opening and closing the browser every time I want to use a proxy
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2004 [17:17:29] <greycat> Then Chrome isn't for you.
2005 [17:17:45] <greycat> Firefox can change proxy settings with mouse clicks inside the browser.
2006 [17:18:08] <lusrmgr> I've been using Chrome for years
2007 [17:18:35] <lusrmgr> aren't the Google guys smarter than the guys behind firefox? and yet they failed to make easy proxy settings
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2010 [17:19:46] <lusrmgr> can't I use iptables to momentarily redirect http traffic to a proxy? not sure that will work
2011 [17:19:52] <Bushmaster> does anyone knows how to declare path in apache.conf file for hard drive USB ported?
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2037 [17:36:03] <B|ack0p> when will new firefox version be available in debian?
2038 [17:36:15] <B|ack0p> v68 esr seems to be buggy
2039 [17:36:44] <greycat> when upstream support for the current ESR version goes away, the next ESR version in line will grudgingly be called forth, so that we may suffer whatever fresh hell it inflicts upon us
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2045 [17:39:20] <greycat> Well CRAP... mozilla overhauled their web site, and I can't find an updated copy of the ESR timeline
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2047 [17:40:10] <greycat> the one at replaced-url
2048 [17:41:04] <greycat> Anyway, from that older timeline, you can sorta see that ESR 60.* supported ended October 23, which is when Debian moved over to ESR 68.*.
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2050 [17:43:23] <B|ack0p> greycat: in 2 years maybe?
2051 [17:43:54] <greycat> Sadly, I don't think any ESR series ever lasts 2 years.
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2053 [17:44:08] <B|ack0p> why debian is so late :/
2054 [17:44:14] <greycat> ... what
2055 [17:44:40] <greycat> Debian waited AS LONG AS IT COULD before dropping 60.
2056 [17:45:05] <B|ack0p> well ESR 68 is the latest?
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2058 [17:45:37] <greycat> Unless you can find me a newer timeline somewhere, as far as I know, ESR 68 is the currently supported upstream ESR release.
2059 [17:45:55] <B|ack0p> yea it seems so
2060 [17:46:01] <B|ack0p> what about stable version?
2061 [17:46:07] <B|ack0p> it should be 70s
2062 [17:46:17] <Alessandro-B> hello, on Buster, why the processes load the aa_DJ locale while I haven't it configured?
2063 [17:46:24] <petn-randall> B|ack0p: That version is not ESR.
2064 [17:46:35] <B|ack0p> petn-randall: i know but what s the difference?
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2066 [17:46:59] <greycat> ESR is *actually* stable, as in, they maintain a specific set of features and just fix bugs in it.
2067 [17:47:03] <petn-randall> B|ack0p: That seems to be a question you could trivially look up on the internet.
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2070 [17:47:26] <B|ack0p> nvm..
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2072 [17:47:34] <serverman> does ESR have telemetry?
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2074 [17:47:44] <jelly> B|ack0p, debian releases do not ship firefox release versions.
2075 [17:48:00] <jelly> only firefox esr versions
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2079 [17:48:36] <B|ack0p> okkk
2080 [17:48:43] <fireba11> hi, i got a timing issue on boot: nfs server fails to start because luks is still busy unlocking the volume, so exports aren't available(yet), what's the debian(tm) way to fix that? :-D
2081 [17:48:52] <B|ack0p> btw evolution doesnt send emails
2082 [17:49:02] <B|ack0p> is this debian related?
2083 [17:49:15] <jelly> serverman, yes, I _believe_ it's off by default in debian but don't trust me
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2085 [17:49:37] <B|ack0p> it holds at "sending message" screen for minutes
2086 [17:50:02] <B|ack0p> and it is like forever for me
2087 [17:50:30] <B|ack0p> it was same before i reinstalled debian today..
2088 [17:50:37] <B|ack0p> thunderbolt vs evolution?
2089 [17:51:06] <Ede|Popede> greycat, maybe this one's better: replaced-url
2090 [17:51:07] <fireba11> B|ack0p: i doubt that's a debian issue ... checked the logs etc?
2091 [17:51:29] <B|ack0p> where is the logs?
2092 [17:51:50] <fireba11> hm it's been a while since i used evolution .. ;-)
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2095 [17:52:32] <greycat> Ede|Popede: I don't see any future ESR dates on that one
2096 [17:52:57] <B|ack0p> which mail app is better? thunderbold or evolution?
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2098 [17:52:58] <greycat> oh wait, it's hiding in the first table
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2101 [17:53:30] <fireba11> B|ack0p: more a question of taste usually :-D
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2103 [17:53:37] <greycat> OK, looks like ESR 68 support ends September 2020, at which point we'll be forced to use 78.
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2105 [17:54:15] <Ede|Popede> they are switching from 68 to 78? wasn't the original schedule a new one every 7 releases?
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2107 [17:54:45] <greycat> It was 60 to 68. Now apparently 68 to 78.
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2109 [17:54:56] <B|ack0p> greycat: hope not december 2020 :p
2110 [17:55:02] <B|ack0p> and wish january 2020 :p
2111 [17:55:09] <greycat> I'm just going by the page Ede|Popede posted.
2112 [17:55:14] <Ede|Popede> long ago i mean. started with 10, then 17, 24, .....
2113 [17:55:42] <greycat> They changed it at 52-60 apparently.
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2116 [17:56:43] <greycat> dpkg, iceweasel esr =~ s#replaced-url
2117 [17:56:43] <dpkg> OK, greycat
2118 [17:56:47] <greycat> !firefox esr
2119 [17:56:47] <dpkg> Iceweasel Extended Support Release, see replaced-url
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2121 [17:57:56] <Ede|Popede> ah, here. the "rapid releases" part reflects this: replaced-url
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2124 [17:58:51] <Ede|Popede> seems they have problems being slave to the rhythm.
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2134 [18:01:14] <dfcnvt> Little things that pissed me off:
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2137 [18:02:53] <dfcnvt> 1) Whenever I make a quick command by: 'gedit' to open a new gedit...it just pull me to the existing gedit file that doesn't create me a new file that I executed it upon. This is true to any program -- 'terminal' 'chrome' or whichever. It'll just act as if you (alt-tab) to the desired program.
2138 [18:03:51] <dfcnvt> 2) Same thing as number 1 -- Whenever I click on the launcher on the left side to open a new one -- it just takes me there instead of a new one.
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2142 [18:04:50] <dfcnvt> 3) Whenever I took a screenshot (Shift + Prt Scr) -- it just create a picture into a Pictures folder. It didn't put in the clipboard.
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2145 [18:05:13] <dfcnvt> end rant for now.
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2150 [18:07:34] <dfcnvt> I'd like to fix/edit/solve the problem -- approaching to every time I typed (alt + F2) For entering a command -- such as 'gedit' it MUST create a new gedit...not taking me to the existing gedit file.
2151 [18:07:39] <Ede|Popede> dfcnvt: firefox has --no-remote, gedit may also reuse the existing instance by default.
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2154 [18:08:24] <Ede|Popede> may even have an option to "open a new window/tab every time"
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2156 [18:09:01] <dfcnvt> Hm, look like for (alt + F2)....It did create a new one. I've used (win) to 'type to search' by filling out 'gedit'
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2160 [18:09:14] <Ede|Popede> btw, it MAY. see RFC2119 ;)
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2164 [18:10:55] <spacebug^> dfcnvt: man gedit says 'gedit -s'
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2167 [18:11:53] <spacebug^> also for most programs you can right click the laucher and chose "new window"
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2172 [18:12:24] <dfcnvt> Okay, let's move to next one -- (shift + prt scr) -- whenever I create a screenshot...it didn't save it in the clipboard. How do I solve this?
2173 [18:13:02] <dfcnvt> I hate it every time when I create a screenshot, I went and open the folder to find the screenshot file -- opening it, then right click to 'copy' then moving on to where I'd like to paste it to.
2174 [18:13:59] <jelly> dfcnvt, is that on Gnome?
2175 [18:14:03] <dfcnvt> Not only that but over time, the numerous of files in Pictures folder has increased -- I had to delete it.
2176 [18:14:22] <dfcnvt> jelly: I think so -- it's all in by default
2177 [18:14:34] <jelly> that'd be Gnome, right
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2179 [18:15:41] <dfcnvt> Yes. 3.22.2
2180 [18:15:44] <InSearchOfFreedo> Hey
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2184 [18:16:50] <InNeedOfFreedom> How do I join #security?
2185 [18:17:09] <dfcnvt> jelly: replaced-url
2186 [18:17:23] <towo`> InNeedOfFreedom, /j #security
2187 [18:17:37] <InNeedOfFreedom> it says that the channel is invite only
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2189 [18:18:06] <Ede|Popede> is this a redirect? > -ChanServ- Mode lock : +iPf-s ##security
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2193 [18:19:39] <joepublic> i am pretty sure the answer is not "hack your way in"
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2196 [18:20:36] <dfcnvt> How do I ensure every time I create a screenshot via (prt scr) or (shift + prt scr) -- it will save it to the clipboard? By default, I see it will save the file into the Pictures folder -- and not in the clipboard.
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2201 [18:23:04] <Ede|Popede> dfcnvt: you may be able to assign the key to the appropriate command (it may be even already existing, only with the wrong option)
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2204 [18:23:25] <nvz> dfcnvt: triggerhappy + scrot + xclip
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2207 [18:23:39] <Ede|Popede> iirc i once had it using scrot with some options
2208 [18:23:39] * nvz shrugs
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2213 [18:24:28] <dfcnvt> I took a liberty to research a bit for myself instead of relying on you guys -- my bad habits for depending on you. Found the solutions: replaced-url
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2216 [18:25:16] <dfcnvt> (Ctrl + Shift + PrtSc) will do the job for me (to select the region and copy it directly to the clipboard)
2217 [18:25:27] <InNeedOfFreedom> how do I stop debian for forwarding network traffic at all?
2218 [18:25:35] <InNeedOfFreedom> and only allow specific programs through
2219 [18:25:47] <InNeedOfFreedom> is there some iptables command I'm missing? I haven't found a way to do it
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2226 [18:30:50] <jelly> InNeedOfFreedom, is routing enabled at all? "cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
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2235 [18:34:44] <Ede|Popede> hm. none of the "Pictures" keys work for me. seems to be specific to whatever environment.
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2242 [18:37:58] <InNeedOfFreedom> How do I hide the fact that I'm using debian from websites and port scanners? I'm thinking off forwarding all my network traffic to a windows computer so that only the TCP/IP stack of that computer is exposed to the internet and modifying the user agent to show as windows 10. I know that some trig functions and services running can give away my OS though. How do I hide everything so it looks like I'm running Windows to the
2243 [18:37:58] <InNeedOfFreedom> outside world?
2244 [18:38:30] <greycat> *plonk*
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2246 [18:41:19] <petn-randall> *plonk*
2247 [18:41:47] <towo`> InNeedOfFreedom, buy a router
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2249 [18:42:21] <dfcnvt> InNeedOfFreedom: If you're using the browser that you'd like to mask your user agent (as whole, your browser & the system you're using) then I think you should look into the extension that provides that solutions -- Some queries you can look into something like, 'user agent' or 'user agent switcher' or something like that.
2250 [18:42:32] <section1> InNeedOfFreedom, you have shame of using debian ? :D
2251 [18:42:58] <dfcnvt> This is one example: replaced-url
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2260 [18:50:04] <InNeedOfFreedom> I don't just want to switch my user agent, that's easy. What I want to do is to be able to completely bypass and spoof browser fingerprinting. I want to get to the point where I can at least fool this replaced-url
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2264 [18:51:57] <jelly> InNeedOfFreedom, run an actual windows browser, then.
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2266 [18:52:37] <towo`> or don't use the replaced-url
2267 [18:52:37] <jelly> set up a windows vm image, start a new one every time with a clean browser config
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2269 [18:53:37] <jelly> route its traffic over any outbound ip addresses.
2270 [18:53:44] <jelly> many* dammit
2271 [18:54:41] <jelly> something like a qubes or tails, but with us english windows 10 for browser
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2273 [18:56:33] <Ede|Popede> to fake *this* site, hide in the crowd. which means making the same selections like "everybody else". which probably wouldn't be a good choice in terms of privacy and trackability.
2274 [18:58:00] <InNeedOfFreedom> why wouldn't that be?
2275 [18:58:05] <jelly> the question seems a bit out of scope for this channel, but I don't know if there's a ##opsec-for-journalists-activists-and-paranoid-people
2276 [18:58:53] <Ede|Popede> heh, fonts and addons would be a real challenge. got <0.01% there :D
2277 [18:59:09] <InNeedOfFreedom> I wanted to do this in #security but it's invite only so yeah
2278 [18:59:28] <jelly> there is no #security, only ##security
2279 [18:59:30] <Ede|Popede> InNeedOfFreedom: ask yourself, do people really care about privacy?
2280 [18:59:38] <InNeedOfFreedom> I do
2281 [18:59:48] <Ede|Popede> *you* are *one* people ;)
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2283 [18:59:55] <InNeedOfFreedom> fair
2284 [19:00:09] <Ede|Popede> most don't give a damn and even more have no clue about howstuffworks
2285 [19:00:26] <InNeedOfFreedom> I could write an essay on this but I don't want to bore you, I'll sum it up quick. People do but aren't usually willing to go to extreme lengths to protect their privacy
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2289 [19:00:49] <InNeedOfFreedom> or feel an inability to protect it in our modern world
2290 [19:01:10] * jelly wonders how "why is opsec a worthwhile goal" topical for #debian eve when "how to do opsec on Debian" is not
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2292 [19:01:21] <InNeedOfFreedom> I mean u asked so...
2293 [19:01:40] <jelly> Ede|Popede should know better!
2294 [19:02:01] <Ede|Popede> ontopic on offtopic ;)
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2296 [19:02:48] <InNeedOfFreedom> If privacy was just a lever someone could pull to turn on and off I guarantee you that almost everyone would keep it on, sadly it's a lot harder than that.
2297 [19:03:16] <InNeedOfFreedom> But anyways, you guys know any tools that can run on debian that can fool nmap?
2298 [19:03:37] <InNeedOfFreedom> or a setup I could use to make it appear to the outside world that I am running windows
2299 [19:03:50] <InNeedOfFreedom> not just my browser, but port scanners as well
2300 [19:04:02] <Ede|Popede> where does debian report itself as debian?
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2302 [19:04:24] <InNeedOfFreedom> a lot of places indirectly
2303 [19:04:31] <InNeedOfFreedom> canvas rendering (like shown on that site)
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2305 [19:04:40] <InNeedOfFreedom> some advanced trig functions return different values than windows
2306 [19:04:41] <Ede|Popede> canvas is browser, not OS level.
2307 [19:04:43] <petn-randall> InNeedOfFreedom: Why just not firewall all inbound connections?
2308 [19:04:55] <InNeedOfFreedom> and the TCP/IP stack is a dead giveaway
2309 [19:04:57] <petn-randall> InNeedOfFreedom: I'm pretty sure windows 10 behaves the same on public networks.
2310 [19:05:03] <Ede|Popede> don't run any services listening to the world
2311 [19:05:08] <InNeedOfFreedom> I did
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2313 [19:05:17] <InNeedOfFreedom> Nmap still managed to figure out I was on debian
2314 [19:05:33] <petn-randall> InNeedOfFreedom: If you want Windows' TCP/IP stack you need to run Windows.
2315 [19:05:45] <petn-randall> InNeedOfFreedom: Show us the nmap output then.
2316 [19:05:49] <InNeedOfFreedom> I was thinking of forwarding my internet traffic to a windows computer
2317 [19:06:01] <InNeedOfFreedom> and going from there
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2319 [19:06:15] <InNeedOfFreedom> so debian machine --> windows computer on LAN --> Internet
2320 [19:06:21] <petn-randall> InNeedOfFreedom: Show us the nmap output then.
2321 [19:06:29] <InNeedOfFreedom> I can't rn, don't have my debian machine with me
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2323 [19:07:04] <InNeedOfFreedom> but would that at least work in theory?
2324 [19:07:06] <petn-randall> InNeedOfFreedom: Let's continue this discussion when you have, then, because forwarding all traffic through a windows machine won't solve your problems.
2325 [19:07:13] <InNeedOfFreedom> ok
2326 [19:07:20] <petn-randall> No, it wouldn't work in theory.
2327 [19:07:39] <petn-randall> At least not without creating much larger problems.
2328 [19:07:50] <InNeedOfFreedom> but...
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2335 [19:12:57] <Ede|Popede> the only reason i could image where i'd want to hide my browser/OS would be Disney or similar crap. but i wouldn't pay them anyway so... and then i'm pretty sure they still have the chance to find out that Widevine doesn't support their encryption level here.
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2338 [19:16:39] <petn-randall> Their question is basically "How can I be Windows down to the packet level without being Windows", which is the wrong question to a different goal.
2339 [19:18:20] <InNeedOfFreedom> I just don't want anyone to know I'm running Debian, best cast scenario is to make it look like I'm running windows 10 to the outside world
2340 [19:18:37] <InNeedOfFreedom> that's my goa
2341 [19:18:38] <greycat> My semi-serious answer to this whole ultra-paranoid time-wasting debacle is: (1) disable all services, (2) change user-agent in all clients that pass a user-agent, (3) route packets through a generic consumer router to defeat "OS fingerprinting".
2342 [19:18:40] <InNeedOfFreedom> *goal
2343 [19:19:02] <greycat> A safer answer is "turn your computer off".
2344 [19:19:10] <Akuw> hi
2345 [19:19:18] <Ede|Popede> and remove the debian sticker!
2346 [19:19:26] <InNeedOfFreedom> haha good one
2347 [19:19:46] <Akuw> i just added deb replaced-url
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2349 [19:20:08] <InNeedOfFreedom> Your talking to a man who's on the watchlist of a totalitarian government, nothing is "ultra-paranoid"
2350 [19:20:17] <Akuw> i am looking for openjdk-7-jre:amd64
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2352 [19:20:21] <greycat> !jessie sources.list
2353 [19:20:21] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has two lines: "deb replaced-url
2354 [19:20:22] <Akuw> but is not there
2355 [19:21:00] <Akuw> greycat: ok, let me change to see
2356 [19:21:05] <InNeedOfFreedom> just run the oracle versions?
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2358 [19:21:48] <Ede|Popede> InNeedOfFreedom: #debian-offtopic ?
2359 [19:21:53] <InNeedOfFreedom> nvm
2360 [19:22:13] <InNeedOfFreedom> did you forgot to sudo apt-get update Akuw?
2361 [19:22:27] * Ede|Popede doesn't want to spam the channel with comments completely unrelated to debian
2362 [19:22:35] <InNeedOfFreedom> ah ok
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2364 [19:22:47] <petn-randall> InNeedOfFreedom: I doubt there's much to fingerprint if you firewall properly, so I'm eagerly awaiting your nmap output.
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2366 [19:23:10] <InNeedOfFreedom> I probably failed to firewall, I'm pretty new to ip tables
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2370 [19:23:56] <InNeedOfFreedom> Akuw, just run "sudo apt-get update && suto apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk"
2371 [19:24:07] <Akuw_> there is only openjdk-7-jre
2372 [19:24:09] <InNeedOfFreedom> speleld that wrong
2373 [19:24:27] <InNeedOfFreedom> hmm
2374 [19:24:29] <greycat> ,v openjdk-7-jre
2375 [19:24:29] <InNeedOfFreedom> that's wierd
2376 [19:24:30] <judd> Package: openjdk-7-jre on amd64 -- jessie: 7u181-2.6.14-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 7u241-2.6.20-1~deb8u1
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2378 [19:24:31] <Akuw_> no 8 version. Is that in another repo?
2379 [19:24:40] <InNeedOfFreedom> why do u need jdk 7?
2380 [19:24:41] <greycat> ,v openjdk-8-jre
2381 [19:24:42] <judd> Package: openjdk-8-jre on amd64 -- stretch: 8u222-b10-1~deb9u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 8u232-b09-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 8u232-b09-1~deb9u1; sid: 8u232-b09-1
2382 [19:24:50] <InNeedOfFreedom> jdk 8 is backwards compatible with 7
2383 [19:24:51] <greycat> 7 is in jessie, 8 is in stretch
2384 [19:24:51] <Akuw_> i need 8
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2386 [19:24:58] <greycat> Did you not see this YESTERDAY?
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2388 [19:25:06] <greycat> Do you have judd on ignore or something?
2389 [19:25:07] <Akuw_> no
2390 [19:25:08] <InNeedOfFreedom> sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-jdk
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2392 [19:25:10] <InNeedOfFreedom> done
2393 [19:25:27] <greycat> I *know* I did this for you yesterday, and then ranted at you about you not being capable of doing it yourself despite being a long-time Debian user.
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2396 [19:26:12] <Akuw_> greycat: i am just asking about if this repo has 8 version
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2398 [19:26:47] <greycat> If you need a specific stupidly old Java runtime version on your quite old (no longer officially supported) Debian release, just download whatever Java runtime you need from Oracle, unpack it in /opt, set up symlinks to it from common PATH directories, and be happy.
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2400 [19:26:59] <greycat> Don't bend over backwards trying to beat one out of the Debian package archives.
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2406 [19:27:56] <greycat> Akuw_: *TWICE* now I've had judd show you which release(s) of Debian have the -8- package.
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2408 [19:28:09] <Akuw_> greycat: well that is an option, other option is to know why there is headless 8 but jre 7
2409 [19:28:10] <greycat> jessie is not one of them
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2440 [19:47:25] <InNeedOfFreedom> Can I run the small debian 10 iso image without internet?
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2442 [19:48:26] <diogenes_> InNeedOfFreedom, it's just debian with no xorg.
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2445 [19:50:37] <jelly> InNeedOfFreedom, you can run a live image. You can install an installer image. netinst is an installer image.
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2463 [20:01:23] <Habbie> can i start the android emulator from some package available in Debian Buster, or do i need external sources?
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2465 [20:03:26] <jelly> is there any android emulator worth a damn that is also free software?
2466 [20:03:27] <Habbie> aha, google-android-platform-24-installer
2467 [20:03:38] <Habbie> jelly, the one in the sdk has not made me unhappy on macos in the past
2468 [20:03:40] <jelly> that sounds like contrib
2469 [20:03:50] <jelly> ,v google-android-platform-24-installer
2470 [20:03:51] <judd> Package: google-android-platform-24-installer on amd64 -- stretch/contrib: 24+r02; bullseye/contrib: 24+r02+nmu3; buster/contrib: 24+r02+nmu3; sid/contrib: 24+r02+nmu3
2471 [20:03:54] <Habbie> Section: contrib/devel
2472 [20:03:56] <Habbie> yes
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2475 [20:04:40] <Habbie> hmm, not immediately clear how to run it yet
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2494 [20:19:02] <johnfg> hey guys
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2496 [20:19:52] <johnfg> Anyone have any thoughts on fixing the problem(s) with the openvpn systemd script? From being with the #openvpn and #systemd folks, I think it's narrowed down to that, but no fix yet :-(
2497 [20:20:43] <HelloShitty> Hello everyone
2498 [20:20:58] <HelloShitty> How do I switch from one user to a newly created one in terminal?
2499 [20:21:04] <HelloShitty> I tried sudo -u newuser
2500 [20:21:12] <HelloShitty> but it shows me the usage menu
2501 [20:21:22] <polyphem> su - newuser
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2503 [20:22:44] <HelloShitty> What is the problem with the `sudo -u newuser`
2504 [20:22:46] <HelloShitty> ?
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2507 [20:23:49] <greycat> It works too well and is too easy.
2508 [20:23:54] <polyphem> sudo is for executing a single command as the newuser , wheras su is s(witch)u(ser) , it gives you a shell
2509 [20:24:16] <greycat> HelloShitty: what's the rest of the command?
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2512 [20:24:54] <HelloShitty> hum, ok
2513 [20:25:00] <HelloShitty> What command greycat ?
2514 [20:25:05] <greycat> If you want a LOGIN shell as this new user, you want the -i option. If you want a NON-LOGIN shell as that user, the -s option.
2515 [20:25:41] <HelloShitty> I just created a new user (with no root permissions) for my daughter. I want her to start using the laptop
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2517 [20:25:45] <HelloShitty> that's all
2518 [20:25:59] <greycat> Log out. Log in as her.
2519 [20:26:02] <HelloShitty> and now I want to login with her account to restrict the access to some sites
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2522 [20:26:22] <HelloShitty> I don't want to logout. I want to keep my session alive
2523 [20:26:32] <HelloShitty> I want to keep some applications running under my account
2524 [20:26:44] <HelloShitty> suck as rtorrent and a couple of other applicaitons
2525 [20:26:49] <greycat> What do you expect her to do, then? Just type commands in a single shell, with no GUI?
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2527 [20:27:06] <greycat> rtorrent is a terminal application. You can run that in screen and have it continue after you logout.
2528 [20:27:13] <greycat> (or tmux)
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2530 [20:27:36] <HelloShitty> no, of course not. I want her to have a normal desktop and access to word processing applications and etc
2531 [20:28:01] <jelly> HelloShitty, maybe, just maybe, your lock screemn / display manager has a way to keep your session running and start a new session, logging in possibly a different user
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2533 [20:28:42] <HelloShitty> The thing is that this is my laptop and I have my stuff running all day. Laptop stays turned on all day. And when my daughter comes from school, I'm not home yet. So I want to let her to access to her account to do her stuff but keep my stuff running at the same time
2534 [20:28:50] <greycat> Or failing that, you could do Ctrl-Alt-F2, log her in on the console, and do "startx -- :1".
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2536 [20:29:12] <jelly> HelloShitty, sddm and kde have that. I don't know which DM and DE you use, look for something like "switch user"
2537 [20:29:18] <greycat> In any case, just giving her a single shell in a single window isn't going to give her the full GUI.
2538 [20:29:22] <HelloShitty> I used sddm and Plasma Desktop
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2540 [20:29:37] <HelloShitty> s/used/use
2541 [20:29:40] <jelly> HelloShitty, so lock you screen. And then open a new session.
2542 [20:29:50] <HelloShitty> ok, I get that
2543 [20:30:08] <jelly> which is just a different way of "log in as her"
2544 [20:30:10] <HelloShitty> but to do some simple configuration, I can switch to her user in terminal
2545 [20:30:11] <HelloShitty> right?
2546 [20:30:35] <HelloShitty> and do what I want "as her"
2547 [20:30:37] <greycat> Yes, you can get either a login or non-login shell running as her.
2548 [20:30:46] <jelly> if it's ANYTHING DE-related, it might not work well.
2549 [20:30:53] <greycat> You just have to finish the sudo command. You only typed part of it.
2550 [20:31:09] <HelloShitty> no, I just want to block access to some sites, for now
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2552 [20:31:37] <HelloShitty> You mean `sudo -u newuser` is incomplete?
2553 [20:31:47] <jelly> if that is done using a GUI tool, then my best guess is log in properly, not via su -, not via sudo ... -i
2554 [20:32:00] <greycat> Yes. That's why you got the usage error. Either give the -i option or the -s option, as I said EARLIER.
2555 [20:32:02] <jelly> HelloShitty, that one is missing -i
2556 [20:32:24] <jelly> at the end, sudo -u tomcat -i
2557 [20:32:30] <greycat> Or give the name of a specific shell you want to run.
2558 [20:32:43] <HelloShitty> ah ok
2559 [20:32:48] <jelly> erm, Your daughter is not a tomcat, sorry, that's really mechanical memory for me
2560 [20:33:01] <greycat> she could be
2561 [20:33:01] <HelloShitty> that's fine
2562 [20:33:05] <jelly> or could have been oracle!
2563 [20:33:07] <HelloShitty> I never told my daughter's name
2564 [20:33:14] <HelloShitty> so you had come make one up
2565 [20:33:15] <HelloShitty> :p
2566 [20:33:39] <HelloShitty> ok, thanks for the help
2567 [20:33:45] <HelloShitty> ahh
2568 [20:33:52] <HelloShitty> I have yet one more quesiton
2569 [20:33:53] <HelloShitty> sorry
2570 [20:33:58] <jelly> we already have too many cats.
2571 [20:34:23] <HelloShitty> forget it
2572 [20:34:25] <HelloShitty> lol
2573 [20:34:31] <HelloShitty> I got the answer
2574 [20:34:51] <jelly> !win HelloShitty
2575 [20:34:52] <dpkg> Congratulations, HelloShitty! You have won the US presidency!
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2590 [20:44:58] <HelloShitty> I'm in trouble
2591 [20:44:59] <HelloShitty> lol
2592 [20:45:19] <HelloShitty> I switched to her account using the desktop menu
2593 [20:45:35] <HelloShitty> then I tried to logout and I just got a black screen
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2597 [20:45:55] <HelloShitty> so I hit ALT+F2 and logged in with her account/password
2598 [20:46:08] <HelloShitty> then I switched to root
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2601 [20:46:49] <HelloShitty> then I switched to my account and I thought that by trying `startx` it would resume the login session I had before
2602 [20:46:58] <HelloShitty> but I got errors from xorg
2603 [20:46:59] <HelloShitty> lol
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2605 [20:47:11] <HelloShitty> Now I have to reboot and shutdown my applications
2606 [20:47:18] <greycat> startx will never resume a session. it starts a new session.
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2608 [20:47:46] <HelloShitty> So, at this point I have no chance to resume my account session from the command line?
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2610 [20:48:20] <greycat> What you want to do is cycle through all the consoles, Ctrl-Alt-F1, Ctrl-Alt-F2, etc., and see if you can bring yours back. The most common places for it to be are on 1 or 7.
2611 [20:48:54] <HelloShitty> What am I supposed to expect if I can find the session?
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2613 [20:49:18] <HelloShitty> Like, what will I see while hitting those keys combinations if I find my session?
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2615 [20:49:41] <greycat> A... locked KDE session? Whatever isn't a Linux text console.
2616 [20:49:57] <HelloShitty> ok, going to try
2617 [20:50:13] <HelloShitty> CTRL+ALT+F..., right?
2618 [20:50:23] <HelloShitty> That's always the same no matter the laptop?
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2620 [20:50:52] <HelloShitty> I use ALT+F... to start new command line sessions (or whatever they are called)
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2622 [20:51:08] <greycat> That only works if you're already on a text console. It doesn't work if you're on X.
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2624 [20:51:29] <HelloShitty> ok, and if I find it, what should I do next?
2625 [20:51:36] <greycat> unlock your session
2626 [20:52:18] <HelloShitty> But by commands? Or I'll get the GUI stuff?
2627 [20:53:36] <HelloShitty> ok, I got it
2628 [20:53:38] <HelloShitty> thanks
2629 [20:53:43] <HelloShitty> !win
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2631 [20:53:45] <HelloShitty> lol
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2633 [20:54:19] <HelloShitty> back
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2635 [20:54:38] <jelly> default session for sddm should be on ctrl-alt-f7 historically and accidentally set for X (because there were 6 open gettys on the first 6 consoles)
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2637 [20:55:08] <HelloShitty> I'm already in my session
2638 [20:55:17] <greycat> as I said, 1 and 7 are the most common places for one's initial X session to be
2639 [20:55:17] <jelly> and if you'd used that switch user thing, I _think_ the new session would have used first available unused tty
2640 [20:55:34] <jelly> 1? That is unexpected for me.
2641 [20:55:37] <HelloShitty> but when I try to change to my daughter's account, it is not accepting the password I set
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2643 [20:55:53] <jelly> change to, how precisely?
2644 [20:56:05] <greycat> I login on tty1 and do startx, and my X session takes over tty1. So for me, it's Ctrl-Alt-F1.
2645 [20:56:14] <HelloShitty> let me try again
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2647 [20:56:41] <jelly> verify the default keymap (used by text console and display manager) and your user session keymap are the same
2648 [20:57:35] <jelly> greycat, wow, "startx takes over current tty" is also unexpected for me
2649 [20:57:40] <HelloShitty> sudo -u daughterusername -p daughterpassword bash
2650 [20:57:54] <greycat> That started in stretch, I believe. Along with the modesetting stuff.
2651 [20:57:55] * jelly has not used startx, probably this decade
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2653 [20:58:49] <HelloShitty> su -s daughterusername
2654 [20:58:58] <HelloShitty> asks the password and it says it's wrong
2655 [20:59:13] <HelloShitty> but I have already changed it using root user and still not accepting it
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2658 [21:01:29] <jelly> sudo man page here says -p is something completely unrelated to passwords
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2664 [21:03:49] <jim> HelloShitty, daughter changed her password?
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2667 [21:04:13] <HelloShitty> I changed it to see if I got it wrong somehow
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2670 [21:05:05] <HelloShitty> dinner time
2671 [21:05:07] <HelloShitty> brb
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2675 [21:08:02] * jelly uses passwords without characters that are in different places on US keymap and local keymap. And frowns on vendors and coworkers that leave linux installations with console set to anything BUT us keymap
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2677 [21:10:42] <jelly> knowing that, it's about, let's say, 10% easier to crack them
2678 [21:11:04] <Janni> Hello there. I'm having a little conundrum. I exchanged emails with someone and I can't figure out how the exchange came to be encrypted with PGP. Here's the setup:
2679 [21:11:57] <Janni> Her: Protonmail.com. Me: Thunderbird + Enigmail. She sent me en email (unencrypted), I replied to that email and that mail was already (automatically) encrypted. I have no idea how the public key got into my keychain.
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2681 [21:12:23] <Janni> I head a look at the email headers and while my reply includes a "Autocrypt" header, her's didn't.
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2683 [21:13:03] <Janni> I never had an exchange with that person before... Does anybody know what magic this is?
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2689 [21:18:23] <jelly> Janni, does Enigmail support and optimistically use keybase.io whenever possible, perhaps?
2690 [21:19:43] <Habbie> jelly, i don't like to nitpick language, but i feel it might be relevant here: are you looking for 'opportunistically'?
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2692 [21:20:52] <jelly> Habbie, yes, thank you
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2698 [21:25:47] <Janni> jelly: That's possible but I can't find anything in the configuration menus that would indicate that. Thanks though.
2699 [21:27:02] <jelly> and there was also a DANE-like thing for pgp wasn't there
2700 [21:27:07] <Habbie> OPENPGPKEY
2701 [21:27:18] <Habbie> i'm not aware of any traction for that, but i may have missed it
2702 [21:27:26] <jhutchins> I had to do an employment test on a system that turned out to be set to use a Hungarian keyboard.
2703 [21:27:30] <Habbie> and then there's SRV records for finding hkp(s) servers
2704 [21:27:30] <jhutchins> Didn't get that job.
2705 [21:27:59] <jelly> replaced-url
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2707 [21:28:47] <jelly> jhutchins, you just need to find "l, o, a, d, k, e, y, s, and space and u"!
2708 [21:29:20] <jhutchins> Hm.
2709 [21:29:28] <jelly> could do that even on dvorak in a reasonable time frame :-)
2710 [21:29:34] <jhutchins> I don't do much that would require that knowledge.
2711 [21:30:15] <jhutchins> I did have to struggle a bit on the keyboards in the library in England when I ssh'ed back home.
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2715 [21:33:35] <warsoul> how to update grub
2716 [21:33:36] <warsoul> ?
2717 [21:33:42] <warsoul> update-grub not working
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2720 [21:34:47] <towo`> warsoul, "not working" sayes zero
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2723 [21:35:32] <davidl> GhostScript question ... is this the right channel?
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2725 [21:35:55] <towo`> davidl, why here again?
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2729 [21:36:31] <towo`> davidl, <ou asked the same question a few seconds before in the oftc network
2730 [21:37:10] <rootkea> Hello! I would like to install adb and fastboot in Debian Buster. Which package should I install? I'm thinking android-sdk-platform-tools. Am I right or will it install bloat? Thanks!
2731 [21:37:17] <davidl33> Yeah, wasn't sure if this was the same network... apologies for the cross-post.
2732 [21:37:44] <towo`> rootkea, apt install adb fastboot
2733 [21:38:19] <warsoul> towo`?
2734 [21:38:27] <annadane> !not working
2735 [21:38:27] <dpkg> "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>.
2736 [21:38:29] <towo`> warsoul, what?
2737 [21:38:30] <annadane> warsoul, ^
2738 [21:38:41] <rootkea> towo`, replaced-url
2739 [21:38:42] <warsoul> trying to update my grub
2740 [21:38:45] <warsoul> but is not working
2741 [21:38:47] <warsoul> the command
2742 [21:38:49] <annadane> *why* doesn't update-grub not work?
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2744 [21:38:52] <annadane> give output
2745 [21:39:09] <towo`> warsoul, "is not working" is even saying zero
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2747 [21:39:24] <warsoul> nothing
2748 [21:39:27] <warsoul> says command not found
2749 [21:39:37] <towo`> rootkea, ant what's the problem with running that as root?
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2752 [21:39:49] <greycat> !buster su
2753 [21:39:49] <dpkg> In buster, su no longer overrides PATH by default, requiring that you use "su -" or "su -l" for login shells (which is not really a new thing at all...). To approximate the previous behaviour, put "ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes" in /etc/login.defs. See replaced-url
2754 [21:40:11] <annadane> warsoul, become root with su - instead of su
2755 [21:40:20] <rootkea> towo`, Why to run anything as root if the same can be achieved with non-privileged user?
2756 [21:40:35] <rootkea> I mean what if there's some bug..
2757 [21:40:52] <towo`> rootkea, because you do not want the bloated platform-tools?
2758 [21:40:58] <warsoul> done
2759 [21:41:03] <warsoul> annadane, worked
2760 [21:41:11] <warsoul> how do i add freebsd to the grub
2761 [21:41:29] <towo`> ps-prober?
2762 [21:41:31] <annadane> did you not get answered yesterday?
2763 [21:41:33] <towo`> grr
2764 [21:41:38] <towo`> os-prober?
2765 [21:41:45] <warsoul> i fall to sleep
2766 [21:42:07] <rootkea> towo`, Ah, is android-sdk-platform-tools the least bloated package which provides adb and fastboot which don't need to be root?
2767 [21:42:40] <rootkea> If yes then I think I'll go with that :)
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2779 [21:50:49] <maxximoclp> Ciao a tutti
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2781 [21:50:56] <maxximoclp> !list
2782 [21:50:56] <dpkg> maxximoclp: È possibile scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a replaced-url
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2794 [21:58:34] <hugo__> Hello everybody. What is the best way to add ssh pubkey passphrase at startup without taping ?
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2812 [22:19:51] <jwk> i removed nginx files and im trying re install it , but the files doesn't come again , using : apt-get remove nginx && apt-get install nginx
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2814 [22:20:03] <jwk> but the nginx files still deleted
2815 [22:20:09] <greycat> !confmiss
2816 [22:20:09] <dpkg> You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>.
2817 [22:21:24] <warsoul> my mouse middle scroller scrolls or all the way to the top or all the way to the bottom
2818 [22:21:28] <warsoul> how can i check that
2819 [22:21:37] <warsoul> changed by itself
2820 [22:21:42] <warsoul> dont did nothing to the settings
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2839 [22:35:46] <B|ack0p> any good screenshot taker app for debian?
2840 [22:35:49] <B|ack0p> on xfce ?
2841 [22:36:04] <B|ack0p> i installed gnome-screenshot but i am not sure
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2843 [22:36:21] <greycat> what do you want, that gnome-screenshot isn't doing?
2844 [22:36:32] <B|ack0p> it runs when i click on actual app
2845 [22:36:46] <B|ack0p> but to be able to use PrtScr i need to asign on keyboard settings
2846 [22:37:03] <joepublic> xfce4-screenshooter isn't bad.
2847 [22:37:09] <greycat> so your real question is, "how do I bind a command to a key in xfce?"
2848 [22:37:15] <B|ack0p> what could be the run command for gnome-screenshot ?
2849 [22:37:45] <B|ack0p> greycat: that too also i am looking if there is a good one for Greenshot alternative
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2851 [22:37:57] <B|ack0p> which will be able to grab area and copy
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2855 [22:39:54] <greycat> Personally, I am more of a command-line user than a GUI user. I commonly use scrot -s from a terminal. That waits for me to drag a rectangle using the mouse, and creates an image of whatever was in the rectangle, and saves it to a file.
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2857 [22:40:50] <B|ack0p> does scrot have gui?
2858 [22:41:03] <greycat> I'm going to guess and say "no".
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2860 [22:41:15] <greycat> I don't have a clue what you want in a GUI in a screen shot tool.
2861 [22:41:34] <abrotman> you seem to have been given two GUI options
2862 [22:41:40] <B|ack0p> ok then how can i find out run command of gnome-screenshot ?
2863 [22:41:45] <moaker> i use deepin screenshot
2864 [22:42:16] <jhutchins> B|ack0p: The default xfce in Debian comes with xfce4-screenshooter already bount to alt-PringScreen
2865 [22:43:05] <moaker> I got a question guys, is there a way I can add a ubuntu repo to kali, I need to install one app :(
2866 [22:43:11] <greycat> !kali
2867 [22:43:11] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
2868 [22:43:20] <jhutchins> B|ack0p: Did you check for a manpage? Did you look in /usr/share/docs?
2869 [22:43:21] <B|ack0p> jhutchins: it doesnt seem xfce4-screenshooter installed by default on my system
2870 [22:43:43] <greycat> B|ack0p: and you checked this by running "dpkg -l xfce4-screenshooter"? And the output was...?
2871 [22:43:58] <at0m> fwiw, x11-apps package has xwd for screenshots
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2873 [22:44:37] <jhutchins> B|ack0p: If there is a desktop icon or a menu entry, you can right-click and get it's properties to see what command it uses.
2874 [22:45:32] <B|ack0p> ok i installed xfce4-screenshooter
2875 [22:45:55] <B|ack0p> greycat: it was not installed i just installed
2876 [22:46:03] <B|ack0p> and assigned key for it
2877 [22:46:07] <B|ack0p> now it works thx
2878 [22:46:30] <jhutchins> It's probably pulled in by some "extras" package, I didn't manually install it here.
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2880 [22:46:49] <moaker> i cant seem to get onboard working on my distro, can somebody help me out
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2882 [22:46:59] <moaker> replaced-url
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2885 [22:47:29] <jhutchins> Probably xfce4-goodies
2886 [22:47:29] <B|ack0p> probably
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2888 [22:47:40] <B|ack0p> what does goodies include?
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2892 [22:48:04] <jhutchins> B|ack0p: Query it and see.
2893 [22:48:13] <moaker> did I download the wrong file,
2894 [22:48:14] <greycat> !deepin
2895 [22:48:14] <dpkg> deepin is a Chinese distribution <based on debian>. It is not supported on #debian. Try their forums at replaced-url
2896 [22:48:22] <sdje> I want to install debian on an Acer Aspire One. The wifi is not recognised, I suspect because of proprietary firmware. Is there a way around it?
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2900 [22:49:26] <nkuttler> sdje: install the firmware?
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2902 [22:49:45] <nyov> use a wire
2903 [22:49:48] <nyov> :D
2904 [22:49:59] <sdje> no wire possible, unfortunately
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2906 [22:50:18] <sdje> nkuttler, how so?
2907 [22:50:37] <jhutchins> !firmware
2908 [22:50:37] <dpkg> Firmware is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace, notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>. replaced-url
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2911 [22:51:29] <moaker> so they implemented touch screen for debian i guess that includes kali linux right
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2913 [22:51:59] <greycat> We do not know anything about Kali or Deepin.
2914 [22:52:08] <greycat> Go ask the correct channels.
2915 [22:52:10] <tomreyn> sdje: "tethering" a "smartphone" can work for providing network connectivity.
2916 [22:52:24] <moaker> okay, i thought kali was a debian distro, my apologies
2917 [22:53:20] <dvs> !based on debian
2918 [22:53:20] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare replaced-url
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2920 [22:53:44] <sdje> thanks I will try it
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2923 [22:54:14] <joepublic> yeah but I already asked in #whatever and nobody is answering
2924 [22:54:36] <moaker> okay, thank you dvs, linux and kali are invite only unfortunately for me
2925 [22:54:52] <skyler> Hello
2926 [22:55:28] <greycat> moaker: almost every channel on Freenode needs you to register with nickserv, because of spammers.,
2927 [22:55:36] <Ede|Popede> moaker: nothing wrong with a freenode account
2928 [22:55:57] <joepublic> and who is the "they", just curious, who is just now implementing touch screens?
2929 [22:56:00] <moaker> i see, no worries I will do that, thank you
2930 [22:56:21] <moaker> oops, sorry
2931 [22:57:07] <moaker> joepublic, I was unaware that most had already done touch support, looking on google and youtube came up with nothing lol
2932 [22:57:51] <joepublic> touch support is everywhere I'd say; multitouch support is what to watch for maybe.
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2934 [22:58:07] <jhutchins> Tethering a smartphone usually requires a working wifi connection.
2935 [22:58:43] <moaker> i identified and registered with nickserv thank you
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2940 [23:00:52] <kingsley> Ready for Kingsley's stupendous New Year's prediction for 2020? Hold on to your virtual reality goggles, hacker! 2020 will be the year that <cough> systemd gets its own editor, command line and air conditioner!
2941 [23:01:08] <kingsley> Or not.
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2943 [23:03:18] <greycat> kingsley: no Tetris?
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2980 [23:21:32] <skyler> so, how is everybody?
2981 [23:21:59] <joepublic> great. Holiday interregnum of champions here.
2982 [23:22:06] <skyler> Nice
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3024 [23:47:47] <hatter__> what is libdb ?
3025 [23:48:15] <hatter__> how do I query the irc bot about stuff ?
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3034 [23:51:19] <kingsley> hatter__: I suppose it depends on the context, but "libdb" might be an abbreviation of libraries (for the) Berkeley Database.
3035 [23:52:09] <hatter__> kingsley, thx, I did dpkg --audit on a stretch box, database, they need to be reinstalled: libdb4.5 Berkeley v4.5 Database Libraries [runtime]
3036 [23:52:35] <hatter__> but I am not sure what libdb is needed for, how do I find out more about it ?
3037 [23:52:40] <kingsley> hatter__: Maybe you'd find an answer to your question about querrying the bot by typing... "/help" without the double quotes.
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3041 [23:53:59] <hatter__> kingsley, thx, when i type '/help' in this window, it opens an external web page
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3046 [23:56:02] <kingsley> hatter__: You're welcome. Happy holidays! You can find out more about libdb by typing it, or its full name, into an internet search engine. I just tried it and found a link to a wiki page for Debian at replaced-url
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3054 [23:57:54] <hatter__> kingsley, thank you
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3056 [23:58:51] <jhutchins> I was building Linux POS terminals with touchscreens ten years ago.
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3059 [23:59:34] <kingsley> hatter__: No problem. Debian also has a wiki page for the IRC bot. It's at replaced-url
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