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2 [00:01:19] <nyov> kale, why don't you just fix it in your script? if it's fixed upstream, look for a related debian bug
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5 [00:02:05] <jhutchins> Is there anything special that has to be done to get a floppy drive working in stretch/buster?
6 [00:02:12] <jhutchins> I mean, I have no idea if it's even connected, but it doesn't seem to show up, and I was wondering if maybe Debian doesn't bother to look for or enable floppies any more.
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8 [00:02:20] <jhutchins> Looking to recover some archival material.
9 [00:02:22] <kale> jhutchins: group floppy i think
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12 [00:02:54] <nyov> modprobe floopy
13 [00:02:56] <nyov> maybe
14 [00:02:57] <kale> but i would suggest ddrescue to read them in as images
15 [00:03:20] <nyov> *floppy
16 [00:03:26] <nyov> not floopy. haha
17 [00:03:30] <LaScoumoune> Why lsblk and blkid cmds, show not the same results, no same uuid, and one found information like PTTYPE="gpt" and other. What is the most generic command, and safe command ?
18 [00:03:41] <kale> should be in /dev/fd0
19 [00:04:05] <nyov> jhutchins: if the modprobe fails, you'd get a dmesg "floppy0: no floppy controllers found". then you know it's not connected
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21 [00:04:48] <jhutchins> I get "no such device", but I don't see a controller in LSPCI. I wonder if ther's even a controller on the motherboard.
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23 [00:04:57] <kale> jhutchins: USB or CLASSIC floppy drive?
24 [00:05:28] <jhutchins> kale: Classic.
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26 [00:05:34] <kale> you may have to enable the controller in BIOS if its a "classic" drive
27 [00:05:46] <jhutchins> That's a thought.
28 [00:05:49] <kale> it is usually disable to increase boot time
29 [00:06:11] <kale> heh decrease that is
30 [00:06:13] <nyov> :p
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38 [00:09:12] <jhutchins> Well, I guess I'm doing a teardown tomorrow.
39 [00:09:29] <jhutchins> Dig the box out of it's cable neest and open it up.
40 [00:09:38] <kale> hmm... bug is not reported
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42 [00:10:15] <nyov> jhutchins: only to notice all those floopies have so much bitrot by now as to be unrecoverable
43 [00:11:09] <nyov> I should try the same with my collection. maybe there is still something salvageable, though I doubt it :(
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45 [00:12:09] <kale> my mom has the old sony mavica digital camera, that saves images directly on a floppy. she uses an USB floppy drive with little trouble. alone from the noise of an old drive, compared to the new one, i can recommend getting an USB drive
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47 [00:13:33] <jhutchins> I'm pretty good at recovering data.
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51 [00:15:01] <jhutchins> Yeah. That's a probable outcome.
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55 [00:18:09] <nyov> images on a floppy? a regular old 1.44mb *high-density* floppy? how many images does a camera save on that?
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62 [00:19:41] <jack> 3 dvds for installation...quite heavy!
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74 [00:34:11] <ksk> kale: haha, my dad had one of these, too. I suppose it was sub-megapixel, so it fit quite some imgaes..
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76 [00:34:50] <kale> nyov: it is quite many, and the image quality is really bad, there is no exif tag, but the camera had a blazing 12x optical zoom
77 [00:35:41] <kale> and dont mention the time waiting between images while it stored data on the floppy .-)
78 [00:36:00] <jhutchins> Those were mostly 720x480
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81 [00:37:26] <otyugh> heya there !
82 [00:37:48] <otyugh> I was wondering : why findutils is not a dependance to the apt's package ?
83 [00:37:48] <nyov> kale, still impressive :p
84 [00:37:59] <otyugh> seem it can't work properly without it
85 [00:38:03] <ksk> ,i findutils
86 [00:38:05] <judd> Package findutils (utils, required) in buster/amd64: utilities for finding files--find, xargs. Version: 4.6.0+git+20190209-2; Size: 667.5k; Installed: 1938k; Homepage: replaced-url
87 [00:38:22] <ksk> otyugh: does not look optional to me..
88 [00:38:56] <otyugh> when they are tagged "essentiel" they don't get to go as dependency ?
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90 [00:39:20] <otyugh> I can see that "locate" for instance have "findutils" as explicit dependency
91 [00:39:23] * kale finally made his first debian bugreport
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93 [00:39:40] <nyov> no need to have dependencies on essential packages. replaced-url
94 [00:39:43] <ksk> yeah, just saw that too.
95 [00:40:03] <otyugh> so the locate dependecy is the one out of the idea
96 [00:40:06] <ksk> kk, what nyov say, then :)
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100 [00:41:33] <otyugh> wow great answer. Thanks !
101 [00:41:48] <nyov> nice job, kale
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183 [02:11:42] <LaurentDumont> I'm trying to setup nested KVM with the following setup - Proxmox on the baremetal ---> Debian 10 with libvirt installed. I'm seeing an issue with a Centos 7 running the nested Debian 10 install is being paused with the following error : KVM: entry failed, hardware error 0x80000021
184 [02:11:57] <LaurentDumont> I'm seeing old reports from 2012 with the 3.something Kernels.
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235 [03:01:07] <cinesc> How do I install WoeUSB in Debian?
236 [03:01:30] <nyov> LaurentDumont: you'd better ask the proxmox guys. they seem to be running a custom qemu build, so can't be supported here
237 [03:02:28] <LaurentDumont> I see, I'll check on that side as well.
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248 [03:08:46] <ksk> cinesc: not in the debian repos, google suggest some ways..
249 [03:09:01] <ksk> not really supported in here then though
250 [03:09:18] <cinesc> replaced-url
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252 [03:10:25] <cinesc> The closest thing I found but what do I know if this is
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254 [03:10:39] <ksk> !ppa
255 [03:10:40] <dpkg> [ppa] Personal Package Archive (see replaced-url
256 [03:10:55] <cinesc> How you should install it properly.
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259 [03:11:03] <ksk> cinesc: the debian way? not.
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262 [03:11:16] <phil_azing> After rebooting after my most recent buster security update my I210 Gigabit Network Connection is disabled. dmesg shows igb driver loaded and eno1 renamed from eth0 but "ls -al e*" gives nothing.
263 [03:11:17] <ksk> I saw woeusb is on github, you can of course build it from source..
264 [03:11:37] <phil_azing> Where should I check next?
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266 [03:12:34] <ksk> cinesc: replaced-url
267 [03:12:56] <ksk> would be too easy to make the windows image just copy-able to the stick I suppose, say thanks to M$
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269 [03:13:25] <cinesc> That is what I tryck to accomplish
270 [03:13:31] <ksk> phil_azing: does the device show up in "ip a s"?
271 [03:13:36] <cinesc> try*
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273 [03:13:57] <ksk> if you just did some security update, it would btw not change the name of your network device. must have been some changes YOU did imho
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278 [03:16:01] <phil_azing> Yes, ip a s shows 2: eno1: .... state DOWN ... I take it that means the fault is to do with the bridge it feeds. I will test adding a non-bbridge entry in interfaces.
279 [03:16:35] <ksk> phil_azing: if you did setup a bridge with that, and the name of the interface changed, I suppose you will just to have to change the slave interface in the bridge
280 [03:16:47] <ksk> to match the new name
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286 [03:20:20] <cinesc> tried using Etcher bit got recommended to use WoeUSB when selecting
287 [03:20:56] <cinesc> The Windows 10 image YouTube put om a stick
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290 [03:22:30] <cinesc> to put on* autocorrect keep making anything I write become weird.
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293 [03:24:30] <phil_azing> A static config of eno1 works so the failure is somewhere in the bridge. The bridge (br1) used the correct interface name (eno1). I will try doing an "ifup br1".
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295 [03:25:07] <ksk> phil_azing: did you try rebooting after correcting everything? sometimes a "service networking restart" does not cut it - or I am doing it wrong, not sure..
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301 [03:28:50] <phil_azing> I did a full reboot. How is the br1 entry created? I have a br1 in interfaces but "ifup br1" gives 'Cannot find device "br1"' This was a working system before the reboot.
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304 [03:30:04] <ksk> phil_azing: via brctl? I have also had problems getting interfaces to work manually, maybe wait for something who knows about that better
305 [03:30:42] <ksk> bridge kernel module is loaded?
306 [03:33:17] <nyov> try `ifconfig up` instead
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313 [03:36:54] <phil_azing> ifconfig br1 up => "br1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"
314 [03:37:19] <ksk> phil_azing: care to share e/n/i and ip a s output? maybe dmesg also
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318 [03:38:17] <phil_azing> "lsmod | grep br" shows nothing, what is the module name in a stock buster system?
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321 [03:38:51] <nyov> bridge
322 [03:39:01] <nyov> unles you're using openvswitch
323 [03:42:59] <phil_azing> modprobe bridge gave a br_netfilter warning and lsmod | grep br list modules now so it was not loaded. ifup still fails so a reboot maybe to rerun scripts. Is the modprobe enough to be persistent?
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325 [03:43:25] <ksk> nope.
326 [03:43:44] <ksk> which warning?
327 [03:43:53] <ksk> "not loaded."?
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331 [03:45:45] <phil_azing> "filtering via arp/ip/ip6tables is no longer ... load br_netfilter if you need this" I don't think I filter so not needed.
332 [03:47:13] <ksk> mhm I cannot really find a manual injection of bridge on my system in /etc - so I would think its something else for you..
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334 [03:47:59] <nyov> bridge should be autoloaded, when needed
335 [03:48:14] <nyov> and after that message you saw, it should be loaded
336 [03:48:26] <ksk> then we are at the point where you should share your configs again :P
337 [03:50:08] <nyov> perhaps try to tear down that bridge, and then re-create it
338 [03:50:52] <tds> also worth checking you have bridge-utils installed, and a run of ifup with --verbose may be useful to see what's going on
339 [03:51:40] <nyov> I ususally had those problems with ovs, but not bridge
340 [03:51:52] <nyov> gotta go though, good luck with that thing
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342 [03:54:34] <nyov> (by that I meant brctl delbr)
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348 [03:56:59] <tris`> the lts page at replaced-url
349 [03:57:19] <tris`> i want to dist-upgrade before lts, but not right now
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358 [04:04:12] <tris`> question #2: if i have two jessie installations, A and B, that start out (verified to be) identical except obvious things like fstab, and i then dist-upgrade to stretch add and purge packages from A, and then dist-upgrade to stretch from B, can i then make B the same as A insofar as teh installed set of packages are concerned? will this be verifiably the same in e.g. /usr/bin?
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381 [04:27:36] <phil_azing> Ok, bridge now works. bridge-utils had been removed. Looking at /var/log/aptitude something or someone (me?) is removing lots of "unused" packages. Is there an automatic clean run somewhere?
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385 [04:35:16] <bsdnoob> I am facing weird issue, sometimes out of the blue my desktop becomes too slow
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387 [04:35:40] <bsdnoob> Today I found that it's because my CPU is spending 100% time in kernel
388 [04:36:11] <bsdnoob> A kernel thread called irq/65-nvidia is hogging the cpu
389 [04:36:16] <bsdnoob> What can be done about it?
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394 [04:39:32] <tomreyn> bsdnoob: is there anything on dmesg about it? can you tell where it's kept busy using "perf top"?
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398 [04:41:39] <bsdnoob> tomreyn: its very hard to do that, machine becomes almost useable
399 [04:41:52] <bsdnoob> *unuseable
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402 [04:42:49] <tomreyn> bsdnoob: which debian version, which graphics card, which graphics driver?
403 [04:42:59] <tomreyn> + which kernel version
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405 [04:46:22] <bsdnoob> tomreyn: I think it's proprietary drivers. Nvidia 1660 on buster running 4.19.67
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408 [04:47:53] <tomreyn> bsdnoob: i'm sure it is, otherwise you wouldn't have this mess.
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411 [04:49:36] <tomreyn> bsdnoob: you can mkdir /var/log/journal and reboot, have it happen again, then reboot again (use magic sysrq SUB if normal shutdown is not possible), and, after reboot, access journalctl -b -1 to review your log.
412 [04:50:13] <tomreyn> it's also possible to have perf log, but i don't remember this OTOH.
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420 [05:02:02] <bsdnoob> Making that directory automatically persists journal logs ? tomreyn
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422 [05:04:55] <tomreyn> bsdnoob: yes
423 [05:05:39] <bsdnoob> Is that systemd thing?
424 [05:05:54] <tomreyn> systemd journald, yes
425 [05:06:19] <bsdnoob> I was using sysvinit
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427 [05:06:47] <tomreyn> ...
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432 [05:10:38] <sapien> wow sysvinit still exists? :)
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439 [05:17:58] <alextee> hi im trying to package something that installs gsettings. is there a way to make the package recompile the gsettings schemas after installation?
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442 [05:18:36] <alextee> is dh_installgsettings what i'm looking for?
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447 [05:24:31] <tris`> the lts page at replaced-url
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453 [05:34:01] <tris`> question #2: if i have two installations, A and B, that start out basically identical, and i then dist-upgrade and add and purge packages from A, and then dist-upgrade from B, can i then make B's packages exactly the same as A?
454 [05:34:13] <ChmEarl> alextee, after installation is a postinst script in debian/tmp/DEBIAN
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460 [05:42:09] <alextee> ChmEarl, is this documented somewhere? are there examples? i would imagine it's pretty common to recompile schemas but i couldnt find anything simple
461 [05:43:28] <ChmEarl> alexlist, try using dh_installgsetting in your d/rules, maybe it writes a postinst script ... very effort is needed to check that out
462 [05:43:37] <ChmEarl> very little effort
463 [05:43:55] <alextee> i can see that getting ran by default without me adding it
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465 [05:44:21] <alextee> but it looks like the end package cant find the latest changes
466 [05:44:38] <alextee> maybe im doing something else wrong
467 [05:45:47] <alextee> yeah nvm, it works now, idk what i did
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498 [06:48:02] <annadane> where do you find out information on services, what they do etc?
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500 [06:48:11] <annadane> system.service, that is
501 [06:48:16] <annadane> systemd*
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506 [06:56:01] <annadane> oh they have their own man pages
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508 [06:56:31] <annadane> with links to the FSH laid out
509 [06:56:35] <annadane> answered my own question
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519 [07:07:46] <eb0t> hey guys im trying to set up pip and python and virtualenvwrapper on debian
520 [07:08:13] <eb0t> i have installed pip and python3-virtualenv from root
521 [07:08:19] <eb0t> but i cant use pip from user
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523 [07:09:44] <eb0t> hmm ..is it ok to run pip as root
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526 [07:10:16] <eb0t> i thought that was a big no no.
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528 [07:11:08] <annadane> eb0t, it depends where you set up the virtualenv
529 [07:11:18] <annadane> the only place a user is allowed to write files is their home directory
530 [07:11:33] <annadane> and then you have to be careful what you actually do
531 [07:11:56] <eb0t> i was going to set up the environemnt in my home directory
532 [07:13:19] <annadane> okay, well, any error messages?
533 [07:13:34] <annadane> i'm actually going to bed, i'm really tired, someone else can answer
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536 [07:17:05] <eb0t> its just debian doesnt have any good docs on it...thanks annadane, but im gonna use the arch linux wiki ..seems to explain a lot
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564 [07:48:08] <tris`> when i upload using curl, with the same debian installation, the entire computer slows to a crawl with every keystroke being delayed by seconds. but the previous computer, which had less memory, did not. why would this be?
565 [07:48:39] <tris`> sometimes seconds. sometimes normal with just glitches.*
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568 [07:50:45] <eb0t> hey i have found something called virtualenvwrapper in the repo, but im not sure if this works for both python 2 and python 3
569 [07:51:05] <eb0t> up until now i have had to put python3-pip etc to get the right modules
570 [07:51:17] <eb0t> but there is no python3-virtualenvwrapper
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592 [08:05:38] <martian67> telnet postcard.sfconservancy.org 2333
593 [08:05:39] <martian67> :)
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623 [08:34:58] <diogenes_> replaced-url
624 [08:36:06] <diogenes_> but why Red-Hat?
625 [08:37:09] <Logg> paid support available
626 [08:37:30] <Logg> also #debian-offtopic
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693 [09:56:47] <nvz> eb0t: there is python3-virtualenv in buster, but the latest virtualenvwrapper and python3-virtualenvwrapper package is only in bullseye/sid
694 [09:56:57] <nvz> ,checkbackport python3-virtualenvwrapper
695 [09:56:57] <judd> Backporting package python3-virtualenvwrapper in sid→buster/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: debhelper-compat (= 12).
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697 [09:57:18] <nvz> eb0t: you could backport it fairly easily I'd imagine
698 [09:57:26] <nvz> !ssb
699 [09:57:26] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) apt update; apt install build-essential; apt build-dep packagename 4) apt -b source packagename 5) dpkg -i packagename-ver.deb To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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713 [10:26:12] <marduk> hello, I have a question on using ssh... when I connect to remote host, and run some process then if I lost connection it will also terminate the process. how should I run it that I could return an restore all status?
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717 [10:28:33] <humbot> one way is to use 'screen' or 'tmux'
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719 [10:28:59] <humbot> (on the remote host)
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721 [10:29:26] <marduk> it can be done with vnc for example, but I want ssh
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726 [10:32:49] <marduk> humbot thanx I start thinking on 'screen'
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732 [10:44:37] <kale> marduk: nohup
733 [10:44:43] <kale> tmux
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740 [10:51:36] <marduk> thank you for fast replies and for giving the directions. I think screen is just what I need but will also check for nohup and tmux.
741 [10:51:54] <marduk> :)
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745 [10:55:34] <eb0t> thanks nvz
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747 [10:55:58] <eb0t> i sorted it with virtualenvwrapper so far so good...
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763 [11:09:04] <H2Q> hello, how I can fix this error? replaced-url
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769 [11:12:27] <diogenes_> H2Q, cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
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783 [11:31:56] <nyov> to be fair, you should say what that does, diogenes_. every child is taught not to take IRC copy&paste candy from strangers
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785 [11:32:53] <jelly> H2Q: delete /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.ro.debian.org_debian_dists_stretch* and run "apt-get update" again. W arnings can be ignored
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788 [11:35:31] <diogenes_> nyov, by default i assume everyone has knowledge about such minor pastebin stuff so explaining it might offend them but, if they don't know, simply ask and i will kindly explain.
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790 [11:35:51] <jelly> diogenes_: or just say "pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list", since they already know how to pastebin stuff
791 [11:36:09] <kale> it won't break your arm, hence its safe
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870 [12:34:34] <exeCutive> Hola
871 [12:35:48] <H2Q> hello again, I an trying to install an earlier version of thunderbird. I removed the current one, and I found this command for ubuntu to install the earlier one; 'sudo apt install thunderbird=1:52.7.0+build1-0ubuntu1' is there a debian version of it, or another way to install it?
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873 [12:36:28] <nyov> H2Q: which version are you looking for?
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875 [12:37:28] <nyov> or just take a look at the list replaced-url
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883 [12:44:30] <H2Q> ah, thank you so much, nyov, this is what I need
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886 [12:45:46] <wikan> hi
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889 [12:46:04] <wikan> how can i force of reinstallation xdm?
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891 [12:46:11] <wikan> my config files are empty
892 [12:46:26] <wikan> and I can't figure out wtf
893 [12:46:46] <wikan> i purged and installed again - no changes
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898 [12:51:33] <nyov> hey all, I'm looking for a lazy round-based strategy game in the style of the original Master of Orion (not the current 3d game). best case a remake of it. is anyone aware of something like that in debian?
899 [12:51:52] <nyov> for those who don't know what I mean, MoO: replaced-url
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903 [12:55:35] <diogenes_> nyov, chromium-bfu maybe.
904 [12:55:50] <diogenes_> bsu*
905 [12:56:35] <nyov> that looks like an arcade shooter?
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909 [12:57:25] <diogenes_> something with shooting spaceships.
910 [12:57:32] <nyov> hm, not bad either. I'll try that anyway. But I'm more looking for something that can sit in the background where you can play a turn every now and then, when there is some time
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913 [12:57:47] <nyov> I have overload for shooting space-ships :p
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918 [13:01:45] <H2Q> jelly, how can I delete it?
919 [13:02:18] <H2Q> there are so many lines starting with ' /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.ro.debian.org_debian_dists_stretch'
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922 [13:03:03] <H2Q> I understand that you advise to delete all, right?
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924 [13:05:08] <nyov> diogenes_: sick, i like it. has been some time since I had a good arcade-runner like this :p
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926 [13:05:22] <H2Q> ok, upgrade works. maybe that solves it
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952 [13:28:04] <nyov> meh, just noticed you can play c:bsu with mouse and it has no input lag. thats so easy then, it's cheating. :/ NEXT
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954 [13:28:52] <jelly> H2Q: yeah. You can also remove any duplicate lines in sources.list to get rid of the warnings, but those are not show stoppers.
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971 [13:41:53] <wikan> can i remove systemd-resolve if i have named?
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973 [13:42:39] <nyov> by named, you mean bind? then no
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975 [13:42:58] <wikan> i don't see any connections to resolve
976 [13:43:12] <wikan> but directly to named
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980 [13:45:07] <nyov> oh wait. bind does run as a resolver. nevermind. been a while sind bind
981 [13:45:22] <Kyros> you can disable systemd-resolve and set your nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf if that is what you mean
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983 [13:45:40] <Kyros> you might need to tell network manager to stop monkeying with the file also
984 [13:45:56] <nyov> I'd rather remove bind, if you don't run an authoritative nameserver
985 [13:45:58] <wikan> ok thanks ;)
986 [13:46:44] <Kyros> i personally use dnscrypt-proxy
987 [13:47:10] <wikan> named is ok
988 [13:47:22] <wikan> i just working on my project ;)
989 [13:47:59] <Kyros> I've also used unbound when i wanted my own recursive resolver
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1002 [13:57:07] <wikan> why lightdm sends arp pockets?
1003 [13:57:37] <wikan> i really need turn ipv6 off - help :(
1004 [13:57:56] <wikan> oh sorry wrong channel
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1006 [13:59:11] <H2Q> jelly, removing '/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.ro.debian.org_debian_dists_stretch' files didnt fix the issue
1007 [13:59:12] <Kyros> wikan: you put ipv6.disable=1 in /etc/default/grub and update-grub
1008 [13:59:20] <Kyros> you can*
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1011 [14:00:39] <wikan> why there?
1012 [14:00:46] <wikan> why not sysctl?
1013 [14:01:34] <Kyros> because other crap cant turn it back on by accident then
1014 [14:01:50] <wikan> i have one crap here
1015 [14:02:27] <wikan> i blocked ipv6 on firewall and login manager hangs
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1022 [14:07:15] <H2Q> can someone help please? there is no duplicate line in sources.list, yet the update shows them
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1025 [14:08:22] <Kyros> Did you look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
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1033 [14:11:02] <H2Q> Kyros, no
1034 [14:11:08] <jelly> H2Q: which issue is still happening?
1035 [14:11:11] <jelly> !bat
1036 [14:11:11] <dpkg> [Basic Apt* Troubleshooting]. To diagnose your problem, we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
1037 [14:11:13] <H2Q> the update output refers to sources.list
1038 [14:11:17] <jelly> H2Q: ^
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1040 [14:11:52] <H2Q> jelly, I pasted the update output earlier, upon which you posted. do you need the other pastes?
1041 [14:11:53] <jelly> if you sent your sources.list already, I missed it, sorry
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1043 [14:12:42] <H2Q> no worries, here again replaced-url
1044 [14:12:43] <jelly> H2Q: does it look exactly the same after removing old repo content files and doing it again?
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1047 [14:13:17] <H2Q> I removed the files that you mentioned earlier, in the /var/lib/... path
1048 [14:13:31] <B|ack0p> hi
1049 [14:13:52] <jelly> H2Q: did "apt-get update" or "apt update" finish without any errors or warnings?
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1053 [14:16:26] <H2Q> jelly, the paste is the output of "apt update"
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1055 [14:16:58] <jelly> H2Q: the first line says sudo apt install ...
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1061 [14:17:45] <jelly> <H2Q> no worries, here again replaced-url
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1065 [14:20:06] <H2Q> jelly, same error with update
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1069 [14:22:10] <epergny> "apt-get update" gives "The repository 'replaced-url
1070 [14:22:21] <epergny> /etc/debian_version gives bullseye/sid
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1075 [14:23:03] <jelly> H2Q: can you show the complete output of "apt update" after deleting /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.ro.debian.org*, and your sources.list file please, and output of "apt-cache policy".
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1079 [14:24:13] <jelly> epergny: two things: 1) it's okay for testing not to have security repo or that its security repo is not set up properly. That's usually prepared only shortly before the new release. 2) if you're using testing or unstable, the right place to ask is
1080 [14:24:16] <jelly> !debian-next
1081 [14:24:16] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
1082 [14:24:35] <epergny> jelly: oh gotcha, tyvm
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1084 [14:24:53] <themill> also, that's the wrong URL for buster-security
1085 [14:25:00] <jelly> epergny: there may be a repo for "bullseye" and not "testing", but it will still be an empty placeholder
1086 [14:25:05] <themill> err bullseye-security
1087 [14:25:24] <jelly> oh, that changed, too
1088 [14:25:24] <themill> !bullseye-security
1089 [14:25:25] <dpkg> Security updates in testing are delayed by the normal testing migration *and* may be further delayed by missing dependencies, etc. See replaced-url
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1091 [14:26:45] <epergny> now I don't know if it's related to #debian-next or not but... It's a kinda old laptop and I installed testing on it quite a while ago. I'm sure it used to work (apt-get update I mean). I'll sort it out but...
1092 [14:27:10] <epergny> Why is it suddenly not working anymore? (I'm just curious)
1093 [14:28:00] <epergny> replaced-url
1094 [14:28:07] <jelly> epergny: probably because you suddenly updated it with testing -> bullseye, and previously it had been testing -> buster
1095 [14:28:15] <epergny> I think it's the same question
1096 [14:28:50] <epergny> jelly: how you mean if I did a "apt-get upgrade"? Could be. I don't remember : )
1097 [14:29:25] <epergny> speaking of which... Is there a way, on a Debian system, to see if it was an install from scratch or an upgrade from a previous version?
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1099 [14:29:41] <epergny> (I usually install from scratch: dunno why, an old habit)
1100 [14:29:41] <jelly> in debian mirrors, "testing" (like "stable" and "oldstable" and "unstable") is just a symlink to an actual directory. The symlink changes shortly after a release.
1101 [14:30:25] <jelly> all of the symlinks change, and probably should not be used AT ALL in a production sources.list on a system you want to work
1102 [14:30:42] <jelly> (okay, the "unstable" symlink never changes)
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1105 [14:31:38] <jelly> epergny: use explicit codenames like "bullseye" instead of "testing"
1106 [14:32:24] <epergny> I temporarily commented out the "security" repos and I'm upgrading the rest of the packages.
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1115 [14:34:25] <H2Q> jelly, sources.list; replaced-url
1116 [14:34:51] <epergny> I'm using Debian since forever on my main PC (my "workstation") but... No gaming, no videos... No sound: I don't even have speakers connected to my main Debian machine (the others are servers, so no sound either) so...
1117 [14:35:01] <H2Q> jelly, cache policy; replaced-url
1118 [14:35:32] <H2Q> jelly, apt update; replaced-url
1119 [14:35:37] <epergny> I don't know nothing about "Debian and sound". What should I install to get audio on that Debian laptop? alsa? pulseaudio? Basically to play songs from vlc?
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1121 [14:36:10] <epergny> H2Q: yeah that other stackexchagne link I pasted links that one you pasted too
1122 [14:36:49] <H2Q> epergny, perhaps you meant to talk to someone else?
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1124 [14:38:06] <epergny> H2Q: yup nevermind : )
1125 [14:38:23] <jelly> H2Q: lines 7-12 are duplicates, you have the same repo and section covered later
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1132 [14:44:48] <jelly> H2Q: removing those will get rid of the warnings, but probably not get rid of the installation failure.
1133 [14:45:16] <H2Q> jelly, in sources.list there are no two lines that are identical.
1134 [14:45:23] <H2Q> does it mean they are nevertheless the same?
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1136 [14:45:28] <jelly> yes.
1137 [14:45:42] <H2Q> so only lines 7-12?
1138 [14:46:00] <jelly> H2Q: you have two lines with same mirror base URI and same "main"
1139 [14:46:33] <dvs> H2Q, yes, only use lines 7-12
1140 [14:46:46] <jelly> the other one has "main" but also "contrib" and "non-free", "main" is still referenced two times for the same mirror
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1142 [14:47:17] <jelly> dvs: the simplest thing to do isto REMOVE lines 7-12
1143 [14:47:52] <dvs> jelly, ??? But those lines are the ones that don't have "contrib non-free"
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1145 [14:48:00] <jelly> dvs: correct
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1147 [14:48:17] <dvs> okie dokie
1148 [14:48:58] <jelly> it's easier to say "remove lines W-X" than "remove lines Y-Z and fix lines A-B"
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1150 [14:50:20] <jelly> also, since it's a plainh URL I could not bother to count the line numbers below
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1154 [14:52:29] <jelly> epergny: you probably want pulseaudio, but again, ask in the right place for testing
1155 [14:53:27] <jelly> H2Q: also, are there any files in /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ ?
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1159 [14:56:30] <H2Q> jelly, but line 12 is an empty line!?
1160 [14:56:40] <H2Q> ther is no address there
1161 [14:57:19] <H2Q> jelly, that dir is empty
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1180 [15:17:24] <H2Q> I wrote above that the line 12 is empty, is there noone anymore?
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1182 [15:19:47] <H2Q> what has become of this channel? I posted 3 pastes only to hear what I was told before I posted them?
1183 [15:20:33] <jiggawattz> it's Sunday H2Q
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1185 [15:20:36] <jiggawattz> not many online
1186 [15:20:57] <H2Q> and then yeah but one doesnt disappear after asking for pastes from 3 different outputs
1187 [15:21:31] <jelly> H2Q: yes they do!
1188 [15:21:34] <nyov> W: Target Sources (main/source/Sources) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:11 and /etc/apt/sources.list:24
1189 [15:21:42] <nyov> if that's not obvious enough...
1190 [15:21:51] <H2Q> jelly, what do you mean?
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1192 [15:22:14] <jelly> it means I might be busy and not looking at irc
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1194 [15:22:45] <jelly> deleting empty lines from sources.list is not a problem
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1196 [15:23:16] <H2Q> nyov, there is 'contrib non-free' at the end of one of them
1197 [15:23:27] <jelly> H2Q: unless you really want to keep two empty lines in a row because that's the way you like it, that's okay as well
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1199 [15:23:42] <H2Q> why should empty lines be mentioned as error?
1200 [15:23:57] <jelly> they shouldn't, and they aren't
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1202 [15:24:32] <H2Q> can you perhaps be more helpful? you talked about removing line 12 above
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1204 [15:24:53] <jelly> H2Q: yes, what's the problem removing it?
1205 [15:25:05] <H2Q> jelly, keep on whatever you're doing
1206 [15:25:11] <H2Q> I need some real help here
1207 [15:25:13] <H2Q> not wordplay
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1209 [15:25:49] <jelly> I think I suggested removing lines 7-12, not just 12
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1213 [15:26:18] <H2Q> did you mean removing everything between lines 7 and 12?
1214 [15:26:26] <jelly> H2Q: including those.
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1216 [15:26:51] <jelly> those first four non-empty, non-comment lines are duplicated below.
1217 [15:27:01] <jelly> so, remove them.
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1219 [15:27:54] <jelly> it's useless to have both:
1220 [15:27:56] <jelly> deb replaced-url
1221 [15:28:00] <jelly> deb replaced-url
1222 [15:28:21] <jelly> because "main" is already covered in the latter line.
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1224 [15:30:09] <H2Q> I removed lines 7,8,9,10 and 11. then I ran update again. nothing changed.
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1231 [15:32:53] <H2Q> jelly, cache policy; replaced-url
1232 [15:33:08] <H2Q> ignore cache thing, it is update output
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1235 [15:35:12] <dvs> H2Q, lines 8-9 and lines 14-15 are still dupilcated
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1238 [15:39:27] <__init__> !topdl
1239 [15:40:29] <jelly> H2Q: it's kind of hard to count line numbers, can you use normal paste URLs instead of raw/plainh, and show you new sources.list?
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1254 [15:46:26] <jelly> H2Q: replaced-url
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1261 [15:49:44] <H2Q> jelly, solved
1262 [15:49:53] <H2Q> jelly, nyov, thank you
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1264 [15:50:13] <H2Q> after deleting 14-15
1265 [15:50:21] <jelly> H2Q: you solved the warnings, but did that also fix the install issue?
1266 [15:50:21] <wikan> who use lxc or lxd?
1267 [15:50:44] <wikan> and you can run mc on it now :|?
1268 [15:50:53] <jelly> ,v lxd
1269 [15:50:54] <judd> No package named 'lxd' was found in amd64.
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1283 [15:58:20] <jelly> it'll be somewhat hard to use it under those conditions, wikan
1284 [15:58:32] <jelly> ,v lxc
1285 [15:58:34] <judd> Package: lxc on amd64 -- jessie-security: 1:1.0.6-6+deb8u2; jessie: 1:1.0.6-6+deb8u6; stretch: 1:2.0.7-2+deb9u2; buster: 1:3.1.0+really3.0.3-8; bullseye: 1:3.1.0+really3.0.4-2; sid: 1:3.1.0+really3.0.4-2
1286 [15:58:36] <wikan> i found a problem ;)
1287 [15:58:40] <jelly> at least that exists
1288 [15:58:50] <wikan> well, guy from #lxc found
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1290 [15:59:11] <H2Q> jelly, I only wanted to install an older package version, but it didnt work due to other reasons (missing/upgraded dependency)
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1294 [16:00:50] <wikan> there is no lxd on Debian ;)
1295 [16:00:51] <jelly> H2Q: it's often better to explain your actual goal right away, instead of at the end
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1299 [16:02:07] <H2Q> the two are discrete issues in this case
1300 [16:02:45] <H2Q> aren't they?
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1303 [16:04:09] <jelly> often the optimal solution for the real goal isn't what you think at all (eg. instead of messing up sources.list, it might be better to schroot/debootstrap a whole separate older environment, or whatnot)
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1305 [16:04:35] <H2Q> I tried the install after reporting the first problem
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1307 [16:05:22] <jelly> H2Q: which debian release do you actually have installed?
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1315 [16:06:59] <H2Q> jelly, 9.0.
1316 [16:07:14] <H2Q> 9.0.1. maybe
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1318 [16:08:23] <jelly> !debian suite
1319 [16:08:23] <dpkg> cat /etc/debian_version (or lsb_release -sc). Or check /etc/apt/sources.list. If unsure about the distribution, $ cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} should grab almost all distributions.
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1321 [16:09:44] <jelly> okay, so it's actually stretch. There's only one version of guake in stretch. Multiple versions of flatpak available only if you have stretch-backports repo enabled, and you did not
1322 [16:10:05] <jelly> ,v guake
1323 [16:10:06] <judd> Package: guake on amd64 -- jessie: 0.4.4-1; stretch: 0.8.8-1; buster: 3.4.0-1; bullseye: 3.6.3-2; sid: 3.6.3-2
1324 [16:10:13] <jelly> ,v flatpak
1325 [16:10:15] <judd> Package: flatpak on amd64 -- stretch-security: 0.8.9-0+deb9u2; stretch: 0.8.9-0+deb9u3; stretch-backports: 1.2.5-0+deb10u1~bpo9+1; buster: 1.2.5-0+deb10u1; bullseye: 1.4.3-1; sid: 1.4.3-1; experimental: 1.5.2-1
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1333 [16:14:57] <wikan> flatpak?
1334 [16:15:05] <wikan> just why :|?
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1342 [16:16:30] <joepublic> library compatibility
1343 [16:16:58] <joepublic> in exchange for having to use flatpak, true, but still
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1348 [16:21:42] <jelly> wikan: why snap? why anything?
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1350 [16:22:57] <jelly> the answer is usually: because it's a way to install something I need/want and the distro does not have it
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1354 [16:24:13] <wikan> exactly
1355 [16:24:14] <wikan> :P
1356 [16:24:25] <wikan> only apt and dpkg :D
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1358 [16:25:16] <joepublic> i note that installing gimp from flatpak -- their officially preferred method -- means that if I download a file in a browser and pick "open with gimp" it doesn't happen due to flatpak braindeadery (or sandboxing or whatever)
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1360 [16:25:25] <jelly> wikan: says the person running lxd on debian
1361 [16:25:37] <wikan> i dont use lxd :P
1362 [16:25:48] <joepublic> I sure have a strong pressure for the advanced package tools, that's for sure
1363 [16:25:56] <wikan> asked about lxd because most ppl use lxd
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1365 [16:26:11] <wikan> i used gimp from flatpak but it was slooooooreplaced-url
1366 [16:26:22] <jelly> I'd say that was not "most people" from this channel
1367 [16:26:46] <joepublic> closest thing to that I use is aqemu, which *is* in debian
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1372 [16:29:08] <jetscreamer> what's up with the permissions on /run/user/1000/gvfs
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1374 [16:30:29] <jelly> jetscreamer: they're 0500 here, what fails to work?
1375 [16:30:50] <jelly> (except my uid isn't 1000, but ykwim)
1376 [16:31:04] <jetscreamer> . /usr/bin/find: '/run/user/1000/gvfs': Permission denied and when i ls -lA it...
1377 [16:31:25] <jelly> jetscreamer: ls -ld /run/user/1000/gvfs says what
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1379 [16:32:39] <jelly> jetscreamer: fuse-based mounts do not allow root to traverse or access, by default. If that find is running as root instead of uid 1000, that'd be why
1380 [16:32:41] <jetscreamer> as root is the problem it seems
1381 [16:32:47] <jetscreamer> heh
1382 [16:32:58] <jetscreamer> jelly++
1383 [16:33:18] <jelly> see also: sshfs, curlftpfs, encfs, etc...
1384 [16:33:26] <jetscreamer> thankee
1385 [16:34:00] <jetscreamer> was sudo updatedb
1386 [16:34:08] <jetscreamer> that gave me that
1387 [16:34:08] <jelly> maybe you can find your way around gconf to figure out where to add -o allow_root
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1389 [16:35:02] <jelly> jetscreamer: update /etc/updatedb.conf to exclude fuse and I guess fuse.gvfsd-fuse
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1392 [16:36:24] <jetscreamer> as long as it's not broken, i'm ok with it. speaking of, though, what's the best gui editor for gconf
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1395 [16:38:08] <jelly> oh, maybe running /etc/cron.daily/locate instead of updatedb on its own would have worked slightly better
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1397 [16:39:04] <jetscreamer> dang, you read minds too? was idly wondering how to get it to update on system start or something like 10 minutes ago :)
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1400 [16:40:28] <jelly> anacron does that, if the job has not run for more than 24 hours
1401 [16:40:37] <jeromelanteri> hi, my rclone version is 1.36-3 and i can not update (apt-get tell me it is the last one... but it is not)
1402 [16:40:51] <jeromelanteri> how to get the last one rclone version on debian ?
1403 [16:40:58] <jeromelanteri> (arm version of debian)
1404 [16:41:32] <jelly> ,v rclone --arch armhf
1405 [16:41:32] <jeromelanteri> ps: i'm archlinux user and debian package manager is something actually very mysterious for me... help is welcome
1406 [16:41:33] <judd> Package: rclone on armhf -- stretch: 1.35-1+b3; buster: 1.45-3; bullseye: 1.47.0+ex1-7; sid: 1.49.5-3
1407 [16:41:51] <jelly> jeromelanteri: which debian release are you really using?
1408 [16:42:11] <jelly> !debian suite
1409 [16:42:11] <dpkg> cat /etc/debian_version (or lsb_release -sc). Or check /etc/apt/sources.list. If unsure about the distribution, $ cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} should grab almost all distributions.
1410 [16:42:13] <jeromelanteri> jelly, thank you for your help. How to get the debian version ?
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1412 [16:42:54] <jeromelanteri> buster/sid
1413 [16:42:56] <jelly> jeromelanteri: also, if it's raspbian rather than Debian, you'd have to ask about versions available in #raspbian
1414 [16:43:00] <jelly> ouch
1415 [16:43:09] <jetscreamer> buster/sid...
1416 [16:43:22] <jelly> jeromelanteri: pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list
1417 [16:43:45] <jelly> jetscreamer: that's a pre-release snapshot of what would become Debian 10
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1419 [16:43:58] <jeromelanteri> it looks like ubuntu in fact...
1420 [16:44:03] <wikan> maybe he didn't do update?
1421 [16:44:03] <jelly> wait, wrong je* person
1422 [16:44:11] <jelly> !slap jetscreamer
1423 [16:44:11] * dpkg strikes a resounding *THWAP* across jetscreamer's face
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1425 [16:44:21] <jelly> !slap jelly
1426 [16:44:21] * dpkg strikes a resounding *THWAP* across jelly's face
1427 [16:44:40] <jetscreamer> yeah, i ran that
1428 [16:44:43] <jiggawattz> jelly: #debian-offtopic
1429 [16:44:44] <jelly> jeromelanteri: "lsb_release -sc" say?
1430 [16:45:07] <jiggawattz> slapping nicks isn't really pertinent to #debian :P
1431 [16:45:09] <jetscreamer> i quit doing sid...
1432 [16:45:15] <jelly> !slap jiggawattz
1433 [16:45:15] * dpkg strikes a resounding *THWAP* across jiggawattz's face
1434 [16:45:21] <jiggawattz> !slap jelly
1435 [16:45:21] * dpkg strikes a resounding *THWAP* across jelly's face
1436 [16:45:33] <jelly> I already did that, no need to repeat
1437 [16:45:35] <jetscreamer> !penixstrike jiggawattz even though it was taken out dammit
1438 [16:45:35] <dpkg> A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking jiggawattz even though it was taken out dammit to the ground and leaving a large wet spot.
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1440 [16:45:39] <jeromelanteri> replaced-url
1441 [16:45:40] <jetscreamer> !!!!!!!
1442 [16:45:40] <dpkg> somebody said !!!!! was "And all those exclamation marks, you notice? Five? A sure sign of someone who wears his underpants on his head." -- Terry Pratchett, Maskerade
1443 [16:45:55] <jetscreamer> !botsnack
1444 [16:45:55] <dpkg> :), jetscreamer
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1446 [16:46:07] <jelly> jetscreamer: sadly, someone removed the channel-wide penixstrike
1447 [16:46:17] <jeromelanteri> lsb_release -sc says bionic
1448 [16:46:31] <jetscreamer> i don't even know what that is
1449 [16:46:35] <jelly> jeromelanteri: that'd be ubuntu 18.04, or a derivative, then
1450 [16:47:07] <jelly> jeromelanteri: ask about it in #ubuntu or #ubuntu-server if it's a server installation
1451 [16:47:12] <jeromelanteri> jelly, ok so i'm out of topic there. Could you tell me which channel is the good one please ?
1452 [16:47:21] <jeromelanteri> ok, thank you jelly
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1454 [16:47:22] <jetscreamer> see? damn mind reader
1455 [16:47:27] <jetscreamer> :)
1456 [16:47:38] * dvs gets his tin foil hat
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1459 [16:48:31] <jetscreamer> that's not a generic ubuntu name, they have weird ones dont' they.. gusty winds or something
1460 [16:49:09] <dvs> jetscreamer, bionic is the first half of a Ubuntu release name
1461 [16:49:20] <jetscreamer> :o
1462 [16:49:30] <jelly> jeromelanteri: it might still be a derivative, not debian, not ubuntu, but something further based off ubuntu; in any case, you're probably stuck with that version unless you rebuild a newer package yourself or someone makes a PPA build for your distro release and architecture
1463 [16:49:45] <jelly> but #ubuntu might have more clues.
1464 [16:50:26] <jeromelanteri> jelly, it may be yes, because it is one i found to instal on odroid-xu4 (arm arch) to get also kodi server running instead of window manager from lightdm
1465 [16:50:44] <jeromelanteri> jelly i'm actually try to get clue on #ubuntu channel, yes. Thank you
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1468 [16:51:18] <hesco> I have problems connecting to my docker container hosted gitolite installation from my docker container hosted jenkins installation. Looking for a clue, would appreciate any insight folks might have. replaced-url
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1471 [16:52:04] <EdePopede> bionic buster, let's create a hybrid :)
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1473 [16:52:41] <dvs> X-D
1474 [16:52:42] <jetscreamer> 'we can rebuild him...'
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1477 [16:53:57] <jelly> give me a 6 million dollar budget and I'll gladly make a bionic debian
1478 [16:54:33] <nyov> what would that even be.
1479 [16:54:43] <EdePopede> #wikipedia may be a good place to ask right now ;)
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1481 [16:54:43] <joepublic> what I'd like to see is a package manager that knows how to install multiple versions of libraries. it doesn't even have to be bionic.
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1483 [16:55:05] <dvs> nyov, mechanical arms will come out of the computer ports and do the typing for you.
1484 [16:55:16] <jelly> joepublic: nix from NixOS.
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1486 [16:55:26] <nyov> what jelly said
1487 [16:55:31] <jeromelanteri> jelly, yes nixos is the one to go for many libraries
1488 [16:55:38] <jeromelanteri> but i think not for arm arch
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1490 [16:55:47] <nyov> but it would be neat on debian, as well
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1492 [16:56:08] <joepublic> REVISION: what I'd like to see is a package manager for an upcoming Debian (say, "mapt", more advanced package tool) that knows how to install multiple versions of libraries.
1493 [16:56:12] <jeromelanteri> nixos is a very original and good OS also...
1494 [16:56:28] <jelly> joepublic: nope, use chroots or containers
1495 [16:56:45] <nyov> damn libcurl3 libcurl4 suckery would be gone then
1496 [16:56:46] <joepublic> sigh. okay.
1497 [16:56:47] <jeromelanteri> or BSD system (FreeBSD) and jails...
1498 [16:56:56] <joepublic> nyov, *exactly*
1499 [16:57:29] <jelly> nyov: -dev packages are a whole different level of suckery compared to just libs
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1502 [16:58:01] <joepublic> what kind of containers would you recommend on a practical basis? I currently use kvm
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1507 [16:58:59] * jelly has no recommendation there, but has seen others use systemd-nspawn as a nice replacement for chroots
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1509 [16:59:19] <joepublic> thanks, will eventually look at that.
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1513 [17:00:52] <joepublic> so looks like debootstrap+systemd-nspawn is pretty powerful, actually
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1531 [17:07:28] <wikan> about 2 hourse ago I asked here if I can uninstall or disable systemd-resolved
1532 [17:07:45] <wikan> if I have named
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1535 [17:08:37] <wikan> the answer is no, I can't because one of bind's package process rndc calls systemd-resolved :|
1536 [17:08:56] <wikan> just w.h.y. :crying:
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1538 [17:10:30] <nyov> what do you need bind for?
1539 [17:10:51] <wikan> to learn ;)
1540 [17:10:54] <jelly> wikan: which debian release? You should be able to stop and mask resolved, and the automated management of /etc/resolv.conf should put bind9's entries there
1541 [17:11:29] <jelly> wikan: are you using bind as authoritative server or recursor
1542 [17:11:50] <wikan> like dnsmasq
1543 [17:11:52] <nyov> apparently neither and both :D
1544 [17:12:00] <wikan> just cache
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1546 [17:12:53] <wikan> and redirection for some domains :]
1547 [17:12:56] <jelly> wikan: so, a caching recursor. You should be able to stop and mask resolved I _guess_. And what do you do with rndc manually?
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1549 [17:13:05] <jelly> redirection to where?
1550 [17:13:16] <jelly> the same bind, or some other auth server?
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1552 [17:13:17] <wikan> rndc starts at boot and halt
1553 [17:13:30] <jelly> or some other recursor (but why)
1554 [17:13:38] <wikan> and if there is no listener on 953, rnds hangs for a long time
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1556 [17:14:05] <jelly> wikan: which debian release is this?
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1558 [17:14:17] <wikan> 10
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1560 [17:15:06] <wikan> just wanna try to block facebook for fun ;)
1561 [17:15:16] <nyov> use /etc/hosts for that
1562 [17:15:22] <nyov> xD
1563 [17:15:24] <wikan> but i wanna learn bind ;)
1564 [17:15:30] <jelly> wikan: it should be bind9's named listening on localhost:953, not resolved.
1565 [17:15:50] <wikan> hmmm, so we have an answer
1566 [17:15:59] <wikan> but
1567 [17:16:16] <wikan> why apps calls 53 (bind) not 953 (resolved)?
1568 [17:16:45] <jelly> wikan: stop systemd-resolved.service, mask it, restart bind9, show the output of "ss -tupan|grep 53 |grep LISTEN"
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1570 [17:17:09] <wikan> what do you mean by "mask it"?
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1573 [17:17:39] <jelly> wikan: systemctl mask systemd-resolved.service
1574 [17:17:55] <wikan> wait, i will check queckly what mask does
1575 [17:17:56] <jelly> that's how you actually disable a systemd service
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1577 [17:18:19] <wikan> before I will do that, how to unmask :P?
1578 [17:18:26] <jelly> what do you think
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1580 [17:18:48] <wikan> what if I break my system :)?
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1582 [17:19:05] <jelly> then you get to keep all the pieces
1583 [17:19:41] <jelly> normally, on a machine with bind9 and its named process, rndc talks to :953, and it's named that listens there.
1584 [17:20:16] <jelly> I have absolutely no idea why would resolved use that SAME control port by default
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1586 [17:21:25] <wikan> ok, now named listen on 53 and 953
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1589 [17:22:03] <jelly> so rndc has a chance to talk to the actual software it's supposed to talk to
1590 [17:22:47] <wikan> yea, but dns resolver is down :|
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1592 [17:25:01] <wikan> ok its fine now
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1594 [17:25:05] <wikan> thanks ;)
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1598 [17:26:30] <jelly> wikan: verify that /etc/resolv.conf points to bind automatically, without you having to mess with it
1599 [17:26:55] <wikan> yes it is
1600 [17:27:07] <wikan> i did it before
1601 [17:27:17] <wikan> static inet network setup
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1604 [17:27:45] <wikan> one process less
1605 [17:27:49] <wikan> some bytes of memory more :D
1606 [17:28:43] <jelly> I think bind9 packaging should add itself there via resolvconf integration, even if you don't put dns-nameservers there
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1608 [17:28:59] <wikan> i used dhcp
1609 [17:29:11] * jelly blinks
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1612 [17:30:03] <jelly> you configured the dhcp server to give the machine its own ip to use for nameserver? :-)
1613 [17:30:10] <wikan> no
1614 [17:30:25] <wikan> i used dhcp but dhclient still was chaning resolv.conf
1615 [17:30:35] <wikan> so i change to static and it stopped :D
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1618 [17:31:46] <wikan> dhclient is funny btw :D I remember when I had have to run many networks via dhcp :D nightmare
1619 [17:31:54] <jelly> so you're not using dhcp network config any more, that makes a bit more sense
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1621 [17:32:25] <ziprasidone> Hello all
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1623 [17:32:32] <jelly> esp. if other machines are going to use this bind9 as resolver
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1625 [17:32:48] <wikan> ziprasidone, hi, what are you wearning now?
1626 [17:33:00] <ziprasidone> a tshirt
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1631 [17:33:21] <wikan> jelly, nope. it is local dns server ;)
1632 [17:33:40] <ziprasidone> i got an error that says: grub-install: warning: Attempting to install GRUB to a disk with multiple partition labels. This is not supported yet..
1633 [17:33:42] <ziprasidone> grub-install: error: embedding is not possible, but this is required for RAID and LVM install.
1634 [17:34:12] <ziprasidone> sd(a|b )1 raid 1 on /
1635 [17:34:49] <jelly> ziprasidone: install grub to /dev/sda and /dev/sdb, not the partitions
1636 [17:34:49] <ziprasidone> sd(a|b)2 Lvm over raid 1
1637 [17:34:59] <ziprasidone> 2 hdd 2 TB
1638 [17:35:08] <ziprasidone> any ideas?
1639 [17:35:34] <wikan> ziprasidone: as jelly said
1640 [17:35:41] <ziprasidone> jelly, yes, i tried to install on sba and sdb and ot that errror
1641 [17:35:51] <wikan> and I can only repeat after him because I have no idea
1642 [17:36:02] <jelly> ziprasidone: oh, is this system booting with UEFI or legacy BIOS?
1643 [17:36:10] <ziprasidone> BIOS
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1646 [17:36:21] <ziprasidone> 2 hdd x 4TB
1647 [17:36:31] <ziprasidone> i also tried to uefi, same error
1648 [17:36:33] <wikan> you can always boot from usb :)
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1650 [17:37:11] <jelly> ziprasidone: hmph. Do you have enough space in front of partitions sda1 and sdb1? 1MiB? (Does sda1 start at sector 2048?)
1651 [17:37:12] <ziprasidone> and also same error on debian 9
1652 [17:38:05] <jelly> "sfdisk -d /dev/sda" will tell
1653 [17:38:17] <ziprasidone> i cant test that roght
1654 [17:38:20] <ziprasidone> right now
1655 [17:38:29] <jelly> if you're in the installer, you might have to switch to tty3 to open a shell
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1657 [17:38:49] <ziprasidone> but, i remember that installer "automatucally" created thaat space
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1659 [17:39:13] <ziprasidone> no, i cant test that right now
1660 [17:39:23] <jelly> ziprasidone: can you boot a linux livecd to take a look?
1661 [17:39:40] <ziprasidone> i havent the server here
1662 [17:40:01] <jelly> I guess you'll have to ask when you get access to server console again, then
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1665 [17:40:43] <jelly> (which is why servers with remote console access via IPMI / iLO / iDRAC / AMM are great)
1666 [17:41:30] <ziprasidone> scheme: / part on raid1: sda1 and sdb1 ; rest: LVM on raid1: sda2 and sdb2... with 2 x 4 TB HDD BIOS boot
1667 [17:41:51] <ziprasidone> ok jelly
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1670 [17:42:39] <jelly> ziprasidone: I'd put just /boot on that first partition, everything else on lvm on md raid1, including /, but this ought to work as well
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1672 [17:42:59] <ziprasidone> few month ago i did a similar install with debian 10 with no problem, but the disk in that case were 1 TB each
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1674 [17:43:02] <wikan> is there any fork of firefox without 90% of shit?
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1676 [17:43:59] <jelly> wikan: only two web browsers supported in debian (for browsing internet sites): firefox-esr and chromium, nothing else
1677 [17:44:00] <wikan> i remember when I was working on proxy server project and I was doing tests. I just launched firefox and during a boot my proxy got 40 connections
1678 [17:44:20] <ziprasidone> jelly: i thought do that: ... /boot in a separate; but i always install MBR over de disk, not the partition
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1680 [17:45:14] <wikan> jelly, this is why I asked if THERE is any ;) I even don't use firefox-esr but original from firefox.com
1681 [17:45:42] <ziprasidone> no problems with 1 TB disk, but not with 4 TB disks
1682 [17:45:47] <jelly> ziprasidone: it's hard to GUESS what might have gone wrong. Maybe the installer autodetected UEFI and tried to install wrong grub. Maybe grub-pc gets confused with a GPT table. Maybe it's something else.
1683 [17:45:50] <ziprasidone> (same scheme(
1684 [17:46:04] <ziprasidone> yes
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1686 [17:46:31] <jelly> best come back when you get access to the system
1687 [17:46:38] <ziprasidone> i think that there is a grub problem on bios setup with gpt parts
1688 [17:46:43] <ziprasidone> ok thx
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1691 [17:47:22] <ziprasidone> thank you jelly
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1694 [17:49:27] <jelly> ziprasidone: maybe you can find a relevant bug on replaced-url
1695 [17:50:05] <annadane> wikan, perhaps GNU icecat
1696 [17:51:41] <jelly> ziprasidone: like replaced-url
1697 [17:51:43] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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1699 [17:53:13] <ziprasidone> yes, replaced-url
1700 [17:53:42] <ziprasidone> (i am looking for a bug also(
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1702 [17:54:28] <wikan> annadane, reading thx :)
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1706 [17:55:21] <ziprasidone> "When using a GPT partition table with a BIOS-based system (not EFI), a..." but I also tried to EFI install, and got same error when installer go to grub section
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1708 [17:55:47] <jelly> ziprasidone: this says you need one extra partition, just for grub to put its stuff into
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1710 [17:56:01] <ziprasidone> do you mean ESP part?
1711 [17:56:05] <jelly> no
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1713 [17:56:23] <ziprasidone> /boot separated?
1714 [17:56:38] <jelly> no
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1716 [17:57:04] <jelly> see the wikipedia page
1717 [17:58:15] <ziprasidone> yes, readin
1718 [17:59:09] <jelly> I don't know if you can create it from partman (partitioning part of the installer), but you probably can do it by switching to shell and using cfdisk before doing the rest of the partitioning in the installer
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1721 [18:03:11] <wikan> annadane, I think IceCat is not what I am looking for ;)
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1723 [18:05:01] <wikan> Linux Kernel source is not much big as Firefox's
1724 [18:05:28] <jelly> so it seems that with a large disk that requires GPT, you can choose to UEFI boot, and then you need a partition for ESP, or you can do BIOS boot, you still need an extra partition for grub2. But maybe, just maybe, grub2 is smart enough that it can find a kernel and initrd inside ext4 inside lvm inside md raid1 without the need to have a separate /boot or /
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1728 [18:08:50] <ziprasidone> I did that (so it seems that with a large disk that requires GPT, you can choose to UEFI boot, and then you need a partition for ESP,) and failed too
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1730 [18:09:33] <ziprasidone> there is no /boot separate part. there only a root part. in a md0 (not inside LVM)
1731 [18:09:59] <ziprasidone> or you can do BIOS boot, you still need an extra partition for grub2 > what kind of extra part?
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1733 [18:10:24] <ziprasidone> i have read the wiki buy dont realize the idea...
1734 [18:11:51] <ziprasidone> (sorry for my portenglsih)
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1736 [18:13:07] <jelly> ziprasidone: in cfdisk it's called "BIOS Boot"
1737 [18:13:09] <ziprasidone> but as you said, i will come back when have the server with me
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1739 [18:14:05] <ziprasidone> thank you very much anywat for the tips
1740 [18:14:42] <ziprasidone> i have now, more or less, an idea about where to start...
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1745 [18:17:23] <ziprasidone> this is my situation, im reading that post
1746 [18:17:28] <ziprasidone> replaced-url
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1748 [18:17:38] <ziprasidone> this is my situation, im reading that post (same error as the OP)
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1753 [18:20:23] <ziprasidone> "Here, /dev/sda has a GPT partition table (disklabel) but no BIOS boot partition, so embedding is not possible. Also /boot/grub is not in a plain partition of /dev/sda but is in a RAID array, so installing the core image as a file is not possible either." this is the key for me
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1756 [18:21:58] <jelly> so create that BIOS boot partition first (on both/all disks)
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1760 [18:23:30] <ziprasidone> so..
1761 [18:23:38] <ziprasidone> i need to do this://
1762 [18:24:04] <ziprasidone> replaced-url
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1766 [18:25:23] <ziprasidone> so create that BIOS boot partition first (on both/all disks) > yes, seems that i have to do that (by hand, via another tty?)
1767 [18:25:58] <dvs> ziprasidone, and you're keeping your BIOS in BIOS (Legacy) mode?
1768 [18:26:03] <ziprasidone> yes
1769 [18:26:09] <dvs> ok
1770 [18:26:36] <dvs> That's the part I'm missing on why my system does not have that partition.
1771 [18:26:40] <ziprasidone> i really, dont know which opt. is better (legacy o efi)
1772 [18:27:05] <dvs> It's up to you.
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1775 [18:27:28] <jelly> legacy is more simple; uefi is the safe way forward (and also, if you ever choose to multiboot windows, the only compatible option)
1776 [18:27:32] <ziprasidone> i've read that debian has improve efi support
1777 [18:27:52] <jelly> it works, without Secure Boot
1778 [18:28:07] <jelly> with Secure Boot, not always
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1781 [18:28:15] <ziprasidone> yes that`s is what tried to mean
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1788 [18:30:11] <ziprasidone> so in a brief, i need to create a bios -boot part before (and the rest of scheme outside the partpan) proceed?
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1800 [18:37:47] <ziprasidone> bios-boot partition could be created on a md device?
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1811 [18:45:07] <McErroneous> HI, any users of "debian 6" ? i am looking for 3D-Printing Software for use on debian 6 (squeeze)
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1814 [18:46:12] <annadane> debian 6 is long since unsupported, please don't use it unless it's not connected to the internet
1815 [18:46:19] <jelly> McErroneous: which 3d printing software would you use on a modern OS?
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1817 [18:46:25] <nvz> McErroneous: Sure, I was a user of Debian 6.. like 8 years ago.. good luck with that :P
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1823 [18:47:25] <jelly> ziprasidone: don't put md on it, no, just let grub install on two or more such partitions separately
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1827 [18:49:28] <jelly> ziprasidone: replaced-url
1828 [18:49:36] <McErroneous> jelly, a pencil and a piece of stone....., FMS.., fuck modern systems..., i go African 3rd world Pc, with no updates...
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1832 [18:50:24] <ziprasidone> ok...so: sdA|B1 = 1 MB part, no FS flag bios_grub. sdA|B2 md0 / part. sdA|B3 md1 with LVM inside....is this correct?
1833 [18:50:29] <jelly> McErroneous: I'm asking because I don't know any relevant software
1834 [18:50:48] <jelly> ziprasidone: right
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1837 [18:51:27] <jelly> ziprasidone: I'd still only put a 500MB /boot separately, and / inside lvm; that way you can grow / if needed
1838 [18:51:45] <jelly> otherwise you set up / size forever
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1840 [18:52:17] <jelly> but that might be just fine, depending on what you use the system for
1841 [18:52:18] <McErroneous> looks like time comes... to update your car, before driving .., else,... no driving... , because the software needs to know about latest traffic rules
1842 [18:52:22] <ziprasidone> thank you jelly, usually i put /var /home and so into lvm...
1843 [18:52:41] <ziprasidone> so / usually does no required to be growed
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1846 [18:53:29] <ziprasidone> otherwise you set up / size forever > exactly, but with 40-50 GB on / never had problem (/var /home an so on inside lvm)
1847 [18:53:54] <jelly> McErroneous: please make sure majority of your comments in here are relevant to your (or others) tech issue(s)
1848 [18:53:57] <jelly> ziprasidone: nod
1849 [18:54:29] <McErroneous> Debian 6 has, mm3d, but i dont know if it is able to produce 3d models for printing....
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1864 [19:02:52] <ziprasidone> last question. Why the installation failed even with EFI isntaller? I just finish to read that this problem can be the CSM feature...just to know.
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1910 [19:30:31] <sadtaco> My /var/log files don't really seem to be rotating. /var/log/syslog and /var/log/daemon.log are both 1GB. How do I check on this?
1911 [19:31:06] <annadane> do you not have something like syslog.1.gz or something?
1912 [19:31:22] <annadane> when log files fill up they tend to start anew with different names
1913 [19:31:41] <sadtaco> I do, but usually they get compressed long before reaching 1GB
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1929 [19:38:47] <infinity_> I have a problem where scp hangs (upload) . I've also noticed speedtest-cli doesn't report proper values anymore when uploading. I'm starting to think since I updated to buster something changed in the kernel with regarding to the network and/or TCP
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1931 [19:39:04] <infinity_> Am I crazy? anyone else notice anything weird?
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1950 [19:49:41] <spacebug^> I have to ask again. According to replaced-url
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1969 [20:02:02] <jelly> spacebug^: discard on crypttab won't do a thing until the layer above sends a discard, I guess it is needed to pass discard down to the metal, uh, silicon
1970 [20:03:35] <spacebug^> hum ok. But the fstrim timer is not enabled by default? (The page says "not needed on buser". Also, I'm using LVM (encrypted), but "issue_discards" in lvm.conf is not set to "1". Should it not be?
1971 [20:04:57] <jelly> I do not know the reason why it says that (maybe there's something else doing periodic fstrim, maybe it's a mistake)
1972 [20:06:13] <spacebug^> Ok. And for LVM? Is it not neeed? Another page says all layers must have discard on for it to work
1973 [20:07:42] <jelly> I honestly do not know what that does, no mention in lvm.conf(5) man page
1974 [20:07:57] <jelly> I forgot about it on my system.
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1976 [20:08:23] <jelly> then again I also left 18% unpartitioned and unallocated on the ssd
1977 [20:08:30] <spacebug^> I've read replaced-url
1978 [20:08:55] <infinity_> anyone know how to install an older kernel on buster than what is provided?
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1982 [20:09:20] <jelly> spacebug^: if you have the usual ext4 on lvm on luks on partition on ssd, it does absolutely make sense that the lvm layer ought to pass discards down.
1983 [20:09:21] <spacebug^> will the space of the files I have deleted be lost on the harddrive, or can I just enable discard in LVM and the ndo fstrim and it will free all earlier deleted data?
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1985 [20:09:37] <spacebug^> ok
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1987 [20:10:54] <jelly> you could ask #lvm channel about that
1988 [20:11:02] <spacebug^> ok thanks
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1991 [20:11:12] <jelly> they're probably also the people who know about the luks layer as well
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1995 [20:13:13] <spacebug^> ok
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2002 [20:19:11] <jelly> spacebug^: and now you wait until they wake up :-)
2003 [20:20:00] <spacebug^> hehe yeah
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2032 [20:46:26] <generic> how can I adjust the size of the ringbuffer for /dev/kmsg?
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2034 [20:47:02] <generic> is it even a ringbuffer?
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2037 [20:48:44] <jhutchins> Ok, BIOS (and hence motherboard) does support floppies, but was disabled. Drive has power, but no data cable.
2038 [20:48:51] <jhutchins> Off to hunt in the basement.
2039 [20:49:07] <sinaptik> using floppies in 2019
2040 [20:49:09] <sinaptik> woah
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2046 [20:52:26] <jelly> generic: boot parameter, log_buf_len, eg. log_buf_len=4M
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2049 [20:53:16] <jelly> generic: add to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= in /etc/default/grub, run update-grub, reboot
2050 [20:53:19] <generic> jelly: so it is a ringbuffer I assume?
2051 [20:53:23] <jelly> yes it is!
2052 [20:53:37] <generic> lets try filling it up
2053 [20:54:25] <jelly> knock yourself out, the default is pretty small
2054 [20:55:25] <jelly> generic: watch out for rate limiting, lots of tunables in /proc/sys/kernel/printk*
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2099 [21:32:32] <dka> is kernel v5 of linux available in stable branch now?
2100 [21:33:00] <annadane> it never well be, it will only ever be in backports
2101 [21:33:01] <annadane> and, yes
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2103 [21:33:03] <annadane> ,kernels
2104 [21:33:05] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 5.4.0-trunk-686-pae (5.4.2-1~exp1); sid: 5.3.0-3-686-pae (5.3.15-1); bullseye: 5.3.0-3-686-pae (5.3.15-1); buster-backports: 5.3.0-0.bpo.2-686 (5.3.9-2~bpo10+1); buster: 4.19.0-6-686 (4.19.67-2+deb10u2); stretch-backports: 4.19.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.19.67-2+deb10u2~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-11-686-pae (4.9.189-3+deb9u2); jessie-backports:
2105 [21:33:06] <judd> 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 4.9.0-0.bpo.11-686-pae (4.9.189-3+deb9u2~deb8u1)
2106 [21:33:19] <annadane> buster-backports: 5.3.0-0.bpo.2-686
2107 [21:33:19] <dka> why never?
2108 [21:33:27] <annadane> because stable packages are largely frozen
2109 [21:33:33] <dka> backports update does not target stable at some point?
2110 [21:33:47] <annadane> backports are packages taken from testing, compiled for stable
2111 [21:34:04] <dka> when will kernel 5 be stable?
2112 [21:34:18] <dka> you said "it will never be"
2113 [21:34:19] <nyov> in ~ 2 years
2114 [21:34:22] <annadane> kernel 5 will never be *in* stable but you can get it in stable by using buster-backports
2115 [21:34:31] <annadane> and yes debian 11 will use kernel 5.something
2116 [21:34:42] <annadane> never be in debian 10 stable, i meant
2117 [21:34:48] <dka> when will debian 11 be released?
2118 [21:34:53] <nkuttler> who knows. maybe it will be 6.x, or 10.x..
2119 [21:35:03] <nyov> nkuttler: that crossed my mind
2120 [21:35:17] <annadane> dka, roughly july 2021
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2123 [21:35:26] <dka> Why not 2020 ?
2124 [21:35:34] <annadane> because the release cycle is roughly 2 years
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2126 [21:35:42] <dka> Ok thanks
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2128 [21:35:52] <dka> I am afraid of upgrading my kernel to v5
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2130 [21:36:04] <dka> If it's not stable, but you say backports are stable
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2132 [21:36:09] <dka> so there should not be any glitch?
2133 [21:36:14] <annadane> and yeah sorry i guess it's not guaranteed to be 5 in bullseye, but it will be at *least* version 5
2134 [21:36:24] <annadane> 'stable' can mean two different things
2135 [21:36:28] <annadane> 'not crashing', and 'stability'
2136 [21:36:37] <annadane> debian stable is 'stable' in the sense of not changing, stability
2137 [21:36:45] <annadane> you can probably use the kernel from backports just fine
2138 [21:37:10] <dka> how do I do safely?
2139 [21:37:16] <annadane> !debian backports
2140 [21:37:16] <dpkg> backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <buster backports>) and oldstable (<stretch backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read replaced-url
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2143 [21:37:27] <annadane> just follow the instructions ^ link
2144 [21:37:41] <annadane> i think you would want apt install -t buster-backports linux-image-amd64 or whatever your architecture is
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2147 [21:39:04] <dka> is this all I need ?
2148 [21:39:11] <dka> do I need to reboot?
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2151 [21:39:14] <annadane> basically add deb replaced-url
2152 [21:39:26] <annadane> for actually using the new kernel then yes reboot after it's installed
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2163 [21:44:51] <dka> i just upgraded my kernel to Linux dka 5.3.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.3.9-2~bpo10+1 (2019-11-13) x86_64 GNU/Linux
2164 [21:44:58] <dka> I have lost my mbim device in modem-manager-gui
2165 [21:45:02] <dka> Do I need to reinstall it?
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2167 [21:46:38] <dka> I use this driver: replaced-url
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2171 [21:53:10] <r4u1> SET theme quux.theme
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2178 [21:58:31] <dka> why upgrading to kernel 5.3 produce a different install for /lib/modules/4.19.0-6-amd64/build than the new one in /lib/modules/5.3.0-0.bpo.2-amd64/build which is empty? I have checked and it seems v4 has some symlink to ../../lib/linux-kbuild-4.19/tools so I figure out I needed to install `linux-kbuild-5.3` and now I still do not have the symlink. Why?
2179 [22:00:01] <dionysus69> for those who leave their PC at night, how can I minimize it's fan noise and disable GPU and stuff like that
2180 [22:00:17] <dionysus69> is there a software for that maybe? or any smart shortcuts?
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2183 [22:11:08] <jelly> dka: you don't need kbuild directly, you need the headers package, eg. /lib/modules/4.19.0-6-amd64/build -> /usr/src/linux-headers-4.19.0-6-amd64
2184 [22:11:17] <sony__> hi all
2185 [22:11:25] <dka> Hi, I have upgraded my kernel and I lost my mbim device, I wanted to rebuild the driver but then I have some issue with the make command, i have explained the things here: this is the problem : replaced-url
2186 [22:11:54] <jelly> dka: thus, install linux-headers-5.3.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 if you want those
2187 [22:12:15] <dka> linux-headers-5.3.0-0.bpo.2-all, linux-headers-5.3.0-0.bpo.2-all-amd64 ?
2188 [22:12:22] <dka> Or linux-headers-5.3.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 ?
2189 [22:12:34] <jelly> what I wrote.
2190 [22:12:45] <dka> do I need to reboot?
2191 [22:12:48] <dka> after install?
2192 [22:12:48] <jelly> no
2193 [22:12:55] <dka> Error! The dkms.conf for this module includes a BUILD_EXCLUSIVE directive which
2194 [22:12:56] <dka> does not match this kernel/arch. This indicates that it should not be built.
2195 [22:13:38] <jelly> dka: which dkms is that?
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2198 [22:13:47] <sony__> does anyone know how can Ihave kali penetration testing+torbrowser on debian9 or 10 stable or on Tails...?
2199 [22:13:51] <dka> dkms --version
2200 [22:13:52] <dka> dkms:2.6
2201 [22:14:01] <sony__> horry hi all
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2204 [22:14:24] <annadane> sony__, that's multiple weird questions. first of all, i really wouldn't use kali in general...
2205 [22:14:25] <jelly> dka: I mean, whcih driver are you trying to build and which package does its source come in?
2206 [22:14:46] <dka> this is the package I am trying to build replaced-url
2207 [22:14:47] <annadane> kali is a specialized tool and most people asking about it won't know how to use it
2208 [22:14:57] <dka> but The error happened not when building this so I am not sure if that's related
2209 [22:15:12] <dka> the error happened on `sudo apt-get install linux-headers-5.3.0-0.bpo.2-amd64`
2210 [22:15:22] <sony__> annadane: "...i wouldn't use kali in general..." why?
2211 [22:15:29] <jelly> oh, it's not packaged at all, maybe clean things up first
2212 [22:15:36] <annadane> sony__, well... replaced-url
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2214 [22:15:53] <dka> how?
2215 [22:16:05] <dka> the apt-get install failed but the module is said installed
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2217 [22:16:17] <annadane> sony__, to answer your question, or attempt to, more directly, pretty sure kali can be used as a live image or is intended to only be used as a live image (i'm not that familiar with it), which means you can 'use it' even if you have debian already installed...
2218 [22:16:21] <dka> replaced-url
2219 [22:16:39] <dka> Should I just reboot?
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2221 [22:17:22] <jelly> dka: you could but that probably won't help at all. You want to figure out which driver is failing at dkms.
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2223 [22:17:43] <dka> It's out of my knowledge
2224 [22:17:45] <dka> how do I do that?
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2227 [22:17:56] <annadane> dka, also i noticed you were using make, that may have put things in wrong places in the file system
2228 [22:18:08] <dka> the make command never succeded
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2230 [22:18:20] <dka> and I am pretty confident it didn't touch the system since I didn't run it as sudo
2231 [22:18:26] <annadane> okay
2232 [22:18:28] <dka> I did like it was explained in the doc
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2234 [22:18:50] <jelly> dka: you still need to figure out which specific "dkms.conf" file the build attempt is talking about.
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2236 [22:19:01] <dka> Do you know how?
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2238 [22:19:56] <jelly> dka: not all all, but follow the clues: find all the files named like that, look at which one has BUILD_EXCLUSIVE inside
2239 [22:20:59] <jelly> it might some other -dkms source not related to your xmm7360_usb tree at all
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2242 [22:21:42] <dka> replaced-url
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2245 [22:22:04] <dka> acpi-call, 1.1.0, 5.3.0-0.bpo.2-amd64, x86_64: installedError! Could not locate dkms.conf file.
2246 [22:22:20] <dka> What does it mean/
2247 [22:22:27] <jelly> I don't know what "dkms status" does precisely.
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2249 [22:22:48] <jelly> dka: can you locate all the files named "dkms.conf" on your system and look inside?
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2253 [22:28:06] <dka> I did sudo updatedb && sudo find / -name "dkms.conf"
2254 [22:28:08] <dka> it's quite long
2255 [22:29:05] <sony__> annadane: kali can be used as live image but it' s not possible to use persistence if you don't install it. you can use it even if you already have debian already installed ...I guess you mean on laptop. In fact I forgot to precise that I want to install it on USBstick
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2257 [22:30:03] <annadane> well, as a pentesting tool i would understand not having persistence... at least i assume you're not trying to use it as a desktop
2258 [22:30:11] <annadane> which if you are, see my stackexchange link
2259 [22:30:13] <annadane> it's not meant for that
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2264 [22:33:18] <dka> replaced-url
2265 [22:33:26] <annadane> sony__, also keep in mind we're mainly familiar with debian, not kali, this channel being #debian
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2267 [22:35:13] <jelly> dka: do any of the files in /usr/src/*/dkms.conf match?
2268 [22:35:29] <dka> match what?
2269 [22:35:42] <jelly> [21:19] <jelly> dka: not all all, but follow the clues: find all the files named like that, look at which one has BUILD_EXCLUSIVE inside
2270 [22:36:19] <dka> cat /usr/src/*/dkms.conf | grep BUILD_EXECUTIVE
2271 [22:36:21] <dka> return nothing
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2273 [22:36:29] <dka> cat /usr/src/*/dkms.conf | grep BUILD_EXCLUSIVE
2274 [22:36:29] <dka> BUILD_EXCLUSIVE_ARCH="^do_not_build$"
2275 [22:36:29] <dka> BUILD_EXCLUSIVE_KERNEL="^4.19.*"
2276 [22:36:35] <dka> sorry wrong env ^^
2277 [22:36:50] <jelly> you probably want: grep BUILD_EXCLUSIVE /usr/src/*/dkms.conf
2278 [22:37:04] <dka> it is in /usr/src/aufs-4.19+20190211/dkms.conf
2279 [22:37:08] <nyov> can reportbug handle patches?
2280 [22:37:13] <dka> There is a BUILD_EXCLUSIVE_KERNEL="^4.19.*" but no BUILD_EXCLUSIVE
2281 [22:37:21] <jelly> ...
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2285 [22:37:56] <jelly> dka: so it's that one that is generating the error, not your third party module.
2286 [22:38:05] <dka> replaced-url
2287 [22:38:27] <dka> Ok
2288 [22:38:35] <dka> How do I fix it? do I just edit the dkms?
2289 [22:38:48] <dka> I did apt-cache policy aufs-dkms and ther is no newer version
2290 [22:38:48] <nyov> you could probably get rid of aufs? doesn't docker handle overlayfs these days?
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2292 [22:39:11] <jelly> dka: you get a newer aufs dkms that works with 5.3 kernel, or you live without it on 5.3
2293 [22:39:21] <dka> I don't even remember why I have it
2294 [22:39:43] <jelly> in any case, it is not relevant for your xmm7360_usb issue
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2296 [22:40:03] <jelly> ,v aufs-dkms
2297 [22:40:05] <judd> Package: aufs-dkms on amd64 -- stretch: 4.9+20161219-1; buster: 4.19+20190211-1; bullseye: 5.2+20190909-1.1; sid: 5.2+20190909-1.1
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2299 [22:40:06] <dka> yes, but I don't want break my system, let's say for example that docker installed aufs-dkms
2300 [22:40:11] <dka> I don't know how it got installed
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2302 [22:40:24] <nyov> probably docker, yes
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2304 [22:40:34] <jelly> dka: you'll have to be the judge of whether things are broken or not
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2306 [22:40:56] <dka> docker ps work fine
2307 [22:41:00] <dka> I can see running services
2308 [22:41:14] <jelly> and you don't have aufs kernel support right now.
2309 [22:41:16] <dka> can I install aufs-dkms bullseye?
2310 [22:41:30] <jelly> do you have a 5.2 kernel?
2311 [22:41:37] <dka> 5.3
2312 [22:41:47] <jelly> why do you think it's going to help
2313 [22:41:51] <dka> replaced-url
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2315 [22:41:59] <dka> you mean kernel 5.3 ?
2316 [22:42:15] <dka> I need it to get the microphone of my laptop, and the fingerprint reader working
2317 [22:42:46] <jelly> I mean installing aufs-dkms=5.2+20190909-1.1; why do you think it's going to work with kernel 5.3, when aufs-dkms 4.19 works ONLY with 4.19
2318 [22:42:59] <dka> I can downgrade the kernel to 5.2
2319 [22:43:04] <dka> I just need to be on kernel 5.xx
2320 [22:43:06] <dka> I believe
2321 [22:43:09] <jelly> can you?
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2323 [22:43:11] <jelly> ,kernels
2324 [22:43:12] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 5.4.0-trunk-686-pae (5.4.2-1~exp1); sid: 5.3.0-3-686-pae (5.3.15-1); bullseye: 5.3.0-3-686-pae (5.3.15-1); buster-backports: 5.3.0-0.bpo.2-686 (5.3.9-2~bpo10+1); buster: 4.19.0-6-686 (4.19.67-2+deb10u2); stretch-backports: 4.19.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.19.67-2+deb10u2~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-11-686-pae (4.9.189-3+deb9u2); jessie-backports:
2325 [22:43:13] <judd> 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 4.9.0-0.bpo.11-686-pae (4.9.189-3+deb9u2~deb8u1)
2326 [22:43:22] <dka> I think I can, I should take the latest that work
2327 [22:43:47] <jelly> you can probably backport the matching aufs-dkms, then
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2329 [22:43:54] <jelly> ,checkbackport aufs-dkms,
2330 [22:43:55] <judd> No package named 'aufs-dkms,' was found in sid/amd64.
2331 [22:43:56] <jelly> ,checkbackport aufs-dkms
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2333 [22:44:08] <judd> Backporting package aufs-dkms in sid→buster/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: linux-kbuild-5.2.
2334 [22:44:14] <jelly> maybe :-)
2335 [22:44:24] <dka> how do I do?
2336 [22:44:32] <dka> I mean, I almost broke my laptop last time
2337 [22:44:39] <dka> I got cold blood
2338 [22:45:10] <jelly> if you build packages for kernel 5.2 from source it ought to provide linux-kbuild-5.2 and linux-headers and stuff.
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2340 [22:45:33] <jelly> or go back to 4.19. Or live without aufs.
2341 [22:45:37] <dka> Why can't I install kernel 5 from apt?
2342 [22:45:43] <jelly> there isn't any
2343 [22:45:49] <jelly> 5.2
2344 [22:45:58] <dka> I got it
2345 [22:46:18] <dka> where is kernel located?
2346 [22:46:26] <dka> I saw 5.2
2347 [22:46:31] <dka> because I wanted to install it before
2348 [22:46:43] <dka> and I still have it, I just dont remember the name of the dir where it download all the linux kernels
2349 [22:46:46] <jelly> that was before. It's not in repos any more.
2350 [22:46:55] <dka> yeah but it's on my hard drive still
2351 [22:46:57] <dka> I saw it today
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2354 [22:47:07] <jelly> /var/cache/apt/archives
2355 [22:47:12] <dka> I have 5.2.0-0.bpo.3-amd64
2356 [22:47:15] <dka> in /lib/modules
2357 [22:47:19] <dka> is that what I need?
2358 [22:47:24] <jelly> do you have matching linux-headers installed?
2359 [22:47:29] <dka> where can I find it?
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2361 [22:47:44] <jelly> look at the installed package list.
2362 [22:47:47] <jelly> dpkg -l
2363 [22:47:47] <dpkg> Files in package jelly-pr0n: /srv/jelly-pr0n/jelly.jpg
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2365 [22:48:12] <dka> I do replaced-url
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2367 [22:49:00] <wodim> theres something I dont understand about the dvds: is the first dvd enough to have a full desktop? in other words is it similar to a default installation of, say, ubuntu?
2368 [22:49:04] <jelly> dka: then backport aufs-dkms for 5.2 and tell dkms to rebuild things for 5.2.0-0.bpo.3-amd64 kernel and reboot with that kernel
2369 [22:49:13] <jelly> wodim: yes
2370 [22:49:19] <wodim> jelly, thank you
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2372 [22:49:39] <jelly> wodim: but each DVD-1 contains only one sort of desktop environment
2373 [22:50:01] <dka> then backport aufs-dkms for 5.
2374 [22:50:04] <dka> how do I do that?
2375 [22:50:06] <jelly> 5.2
2376 [22:50:14] <jelly> !simple sid backport
2377 [22:50:15] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) apt update; apt install build-essential; apt build-dep packagename 4) apt -b source packagename 5) dpkg -i packagename-ver.deb To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
2378 [22:50:18] <dka> how do I backport something? For me itś just the name of a branch
2379 [22:50:45] <wodim> jelly, the defaault is okay, which I guess is gnome?
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2381 [22:50:53] <jelly> wodim: yes
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2383 [22:51:37] <dka> replaced-url
2384 [22:51:57] <dka> !deb-src sid
2385 [22:51:57] <dpkg> You can get apt to download source packages with a <deb-src> line in your <sources.list>. A suitable entry for the sid release is: "deb-src replaced-url
2386 [22:53:21] <dka> replaced-url
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2388 [22:53:57] <dka> I added the sid repository but I don't see the aufs-dkms sid version
2389 [22:54:29] <jelly> dka: "apt-cache policy" deals only with binary packages, not sources. "apt-cache showsrc aufs-dkms"
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2393 [22:55:15] <dka> oh, ok, I added the wrong list
2394 [22:55:20] <dka> why is the example showing source ?
2395 [22:55:41] <dka> So I did add `deb replaced-url
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2397 [22:55:45] <jelly> dka: because you WANT source packages to make backports.
2398 [22:55:50] <dka> and now apt-cache policy show my aufs-dkms 5.2
2399 [22:55:56] <dka> Oh I want?
2400 [22:55:57] <dka> why ?
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2402 [22:56:05] <jelly> dka: do NOT add "deb " lines for newer branches
2403 [22:56:26] <jelly> dka: because backports are made from packages sources
2404 [22:56:27] <dka> So I remove `deb replaced-url
2405 [22:56:38] <annadane> before you do anything else, take that line out and do an apt update again, then add deb-src instead
2406 [22:56:46] <jelly> dka: absolutely, remove it right now before you accidentally install something
2407 [22:56:54] <dka> ok lol annadane
2408 [22:56:56] <dka> I did it
2409 [22:56:58] <jelly> it's enough to just remove it.
2410 [22:57:10] <dka> thanks
2411 [22:57:28] <dka> replaced-url
2412 [22:58:05] <jelly> what's the problem with that output?
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2414 [22:58:08] <dka> so now I should just install the 5.2 version ?
2415 [22:58:13] <dka> And use the kernel 5.2 ?
2416 [22:58:17] <dka> how do I change the kernel used after reboot ?
2417 [22:58:22] <dka> should I install aufs-dkms before reboot ?
2418 [22:58:24] <jelly> you don't have anything to install yet
2419 [22:58:31] <jelly> !backport
2420 [22:58:31] <dpkg> A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. replaced-url
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2423 [22:59:05] <jelly> you need to create one of those ^ for aufs-dkms 5.2+20190909-1.1;
2424 [22:59:05] <dka> what should I do?
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2426 [22:59:13] <dka> how?
2427 [22:59:22] <jelly> by following the !simple sid backport recipe
2428 [23:00:16] <jelly> you just did the step 1)
2429 [23:00:27] <jelly> you also need all the other steps in sequence
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2431 [23:00:45] <dka> sudo apt build-dep aufs-dkms=5.2+20190909-1.1
2432 [23:00:45] <dka> ?
2433 [23:00:52] <dka> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 18 not upgraded.
2434 [23:01:34] <jelly> did the command finish successfully?
2435 [23:01:47] <dka> yes
2436 [23:02:00] <jelly> proceed to next step, then
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2442 [23:03:31] <dka> replaced-url
2443 [23:03:37] <dka> I got an error.
2444 [23:03:46] <dka> Error! The dkms.conf for this module includes a BUILD_EXCLUSIVE directive which
2445 [23:03:52] <dka> It also say
2446 [23:03:59] <dka> Building for 5.3.0-0.bpo.2-amd64
2447 [23:04:11] <dka> And I think the .deb got installed in /lib/modules while I didn't want that
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2450 [23:04:36] <dka> I messed up my /lib/modules
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2453 [23:05:04] <jelly> dka: you can move the aufs-dkms* files some place else.
2454 [23:05:19] <jelly> and the matching directory, too
2455 [23:05:42] <dka> mv: inter-device move failed: 'aufs-5.2+20190909' to '/home/dka/tmp/aufs/aufs-5.2+20190909'; unable to remove target: Directory not empty
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2458 [23:06:23] <jelly> dka: eh, just rm -r the source dir, then
2459 [23:06:40] <dka> done
2460 [23:06:59] <dka> I put the rest in ~/tmp/aufs
2461 [23:07:02] <jelly> next time, do apt source as a normal user in a separate directory
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2464 [23:07:14] <dka> ok
2465 [23:07:16] <jelly> and the package seems to have installed.
2466 [23:07:35] <dka> Error! The dkms.conf for this module includes a BUILD_EXCLUSIVE directive which
2467 [23:07:35] <dka> does not match this kernel/arch. This indicates that it should not be built.
2468 [23:07:35] <dka> Skipped.
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2470 [23:07:47] <dka> ii aufs-dkms 5.2+20190909-1.1 all DKMS files to build and install aufs
2471 [23:07:49] <dka> it seems so
2472 [23:07:58] <dka> should I remove ~/tmp/aufs ?
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2475 [23:08:18] <jelly> dka: that is the same error as before, because dkms tries to build kernel modules automatically each time a new foo-dkms package is installed or upgraded
2476 [23:09:08] <jelly> dka: tell dkms to build aufs 5.2+20190909-1.1 driver just for 5.2.0-0.bpo.3-amd64 kernel.
2477 [23:09:19] <dka> Do I run sudo apt-get install linux-kbuild-5.2 now or do I reboot with the new kernel?>
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2479 [23:09:33] <jelly> you probably already have linux-kbuild-5.2 installed.
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2481 [23:09:49] <dka> I do
2482 [23:10:02] <dka> SHould I reboot and change the kernel version now?
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2486 [23:10:39] <jelly> you could, but it's worth learning how to tell dkms how to build one specific driver for one specific kernel even if said kernel is not booted right away
2487 [23:11:14] <dka> can we boot multiple kernel at once?
2488 [23:11:19] <jelly> no
2489 [23:12:18] <dka> how do I tell dkms how to build the specific driver ?
2490 [23:12:21] <dka> on specific driver?
2491 [23:12:23] <dka> manually?
2492 [23:12:46] <jelly> dka: I have no idea, man dkms
2493 [23:13:15] <dka> replaced-url
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2496 [23:13:36] <dka> it's already telling 5.2.*
2497 [23:13:43] <dka> so I think I just need to restart with the proper kernel
2498 [23:13:46] <dka> is that correct ?
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2500 [23:14:02] <jelly> maybe it's already built. I did not look at your last paste, too tired.
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2502 [23:14:17] <dka> Thank you so much I must say
2503 [23:14:25] <dka> I couldn't have done that by myself with that much efficiency
2504 [23:14:26] <dka> now I do
2505 [23:15:03] <dka> can I just remove the kernel 5.3 to downgrade ?
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2509 [23:15:31] <jelly> you could just boot the older kernel manually first, to see if it works
2510 [23:15:46] <jelly> and then if it works remove the newer kernel
2511 [23:15:54] <dka> replaced-url
2512 [23:16:13] <dka> Is that how you set the default kernel? That's sound quite manual for such a dangerous task
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2515 [23:16:47] * jelly did not read that link either
2516 [23:16:50] <dka> Ok
2517 [23:16:53] <dka> thanks, go to sleep
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2520 [23:17:05] <dka> You should sleep a little. Thanks for help
2521 [23:17:13] <jelly> cheers
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2538 [23:26:41] <dka> I see that I removed this package "linux-image-5.2.0-0.bpo.3-amd64", I need to find the .deb to reinstall it, how can I find it ? I tried on debian.org => replaced-url
2539 [23:26:49] <dka> are old packages kept somewhere
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2542 [23:28:23] <nkuttler> dka: have you checked /var/cache/apt/archives/ ?
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2544 [23:28:41] <nkuttler> !snapshot
2545 [23:28:41] <dpkg> replaced-url
2546 [23:29:21] <dka> I checked dpkg -l and I have
2547 [23:29:23] <dka> rc linux-image-5.2.0-0.bpo.3-amd64 5.2.17-1~bpo10+1 amd64 Linux 5.2 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
2548 [23:29:54] <dka> nkuttler, thanks
2549 [23:29:56] <dka> I have it
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2582 [23:59:49] <dka> This guide replaced-url
2583 [23:59:49] <dka> choose one or the other ?
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