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3[17:24:58] <EdePopede> is there *any* command to show me sorted info on my partitions and filesystems? findmnt seems to be the only one caring about LABELs, but doesn't have df's -x option. and unlike what the manpage suggests it does show pseudo filesystems, or has its own interpretation of the name
4[17:25:41] <qqz> fdisk -l /dev/sdx
5[17:25:51] <qqz> though I usually use parted for that
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7[17:26:19] <qqz> you need to enter: unit gb; print; quit though
8[17:26:58] <EdePopede> df -hT with a correct list for -x is pretty good, only i'm missing the label there.
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10[17:27:23] <EdePopede> was trying to find out what partition fsck mentioned before by referring to its label
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12[17:29:16] <qqz> ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/
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14[17:33:22] <EdePopede> by-label, but yes. i'd still have to assign its output to `df -hT -x tmpfs -x devtmpfs` which is the best option combo i've found so far
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16[17:34:40] <EdePopede> i only have some labels on my system disk, it's pretty old, didn't reformat it for years... but if i'd also use labels for the data disks, uh... there is an internal one and one i have attached externally atm.
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21[17:40:56] <subcool> Ok.. idk wth is going on.
22[17:41:26] <subcool> I am trying to install Teamviewer- ofcourse everyone guides JUST work. But- yeah. Appearently the new teamviewer requires QT5 - wtf? AND HOW THE HELL DO U INSTALL IT
23[17:42:03] <subcool> Everytime i try ot get somewhere, there are dependencies that are unmet. -the only workable method appears to be building it from source, or not using a .dep -
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25[17:42:49] <jim> came, ranted, gone...
26[17:43:21] <jim> I wonder if his system is damaged though
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29[17:44:23] <jim> subcool, had you installed from sources other than debian archives?
30[17:44:36] <EdePopede> ,v teamviewer
31[17:44:37] <judd> No package named 'teamviewer' was found in amd64.
32[17:44:46] <EdePopede> he's gone, jim
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34[17:44:53] <jim> yep
35[17:45:13] <jim> he wasn't when I was typing :P
36[17:45:20] <EdePopede> back
37[17:45:23] <subcool> me?
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39[17:45:27] <EdePopede> you
40[17:45:28] <jim> subcool, had you installed from sources other than debian archives?
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42[17:45:52] <subcool> im just trying to apt install.
43[17:46:03] <subcool> so- i assume. sources.
44[17:46:03] <joepublic> I think what EdePopede is saying is that there is not much chance of apt-get install teamviewer, since it does not seem to exist.
45[17:46:10] <jim> maybe this teamviewer, you can get the source package
46[17:46:15] <subcool> oh- no
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48[17:46:24] <subcool> I downloaded the pkg from their site.
49[17:46:35] <jim> url?
50[17:46:35] <subcool> dpkg -i teampackage
51[17:46:36] * dpkg installs teampackage into subcool's head with a bone saw and a few screws
52[17:46:48] <subcool> lol
53[17:46:57] <EdePopede> if they provide a proper .deb it may be still possible to install the needed deps if the versions fit
54[17:47:00] <joepublic> a .deb is packaged for a specific os and version. I dunno about teamviewer, but the deb you downloaded was for yoru version of debian, right?
55[17:47:11] <jim> your head is looking a little different...
56[17:47:40] <joepublic> if so, apt install ./nameof.deb -- if not, stop now and find the .deb for your os and version...
57[17:47:43] <subcool> wget replaced-url
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59[17:48:55] <joepublic> oh gee it says "ubuntu,debian" no versions mentioned. not a good sign
60[17:49:21] <subcool> this method compalins about qml
61[17:49:30] <EdePopede> sometimes the extras from the .deb aren't even needed. firefox works fine from upstream as a .tgz, maybe it just needs some basic settings and a wrapper script.
62[17:49:31] <joepublic> ah, the "how to install" specifically says it's for debian 9
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64[17:49:44] <subcool> i have 9
65[17:50:02] <subcool> it was my way to avoid 10's issues. - failed.
66[17:50:26] <joepublic> well, at least you tried. I run 9 on all my internet-facing servers (reasons escape me)
67[17:50:30] <subcool> im tring to run x11vnc - but- i cant find my xauth
68[17:50:44] <joepublic> well, and one old server still running jessie
69[17:50:54] <subcool> but i tihnk its because i didnt use gdm. i think im using ssdm
70[17:51:07] * nvz recommends x2go, if you can ssh, you can x2go
71[17:51:36] <subcool> i am ssh'd now. im trying to keep it as routamentary as a i can. But, my computers like to play games.
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73[17:52:16] <nvz> ,i x2goserver
74[17:52:17] <judd> Package x2goserver (x11, optional) in buster/amd64: X2Go Server. Version: 4.1.0.3-4; Size: 113.9k; Installed: 455k; Homepage: replaced-url
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77[17:52:30] <joepublic> this never-do-this might help with vnc: replaced-url
78[17:52:36] <EdePopede> not for stretch?
79[17:52:44] <subcool> im trying to get away from teamviewer in general. - but-- x11vnc is a snot sometimes. my vpn likes to play games. i just spent half my morning trying ot figure out why my openvpn didnt connect, to now get severly slow internet.
80[17:53:06] <subcool> nvz im gonna give it a go. thanks
81[17:53:24] <nvz> subcool: I use it to help my father out.. works well.. uses ssh ports/credentials
82[17:53:38] <subcool> debian package? android?
83[17:54:13] <subcool> fhdaslkfj;kladsjf;kldasjf;kljasdgh;jadsf;"
84[17:54:19] <subcool> same freaking issue - qt5 and qml
85[17:54:22] <joepublic> hi subcool's cat.
86[17:54:44] <subcool> reaplce every one of those letters with a curse each.
87[17:55:01] <nvz> you probably installed something that configured unofficial mirrors
88[17:55:10] <subcool> qt5-default requires depend.
89[17:55:14] <nvz> apt policy | nc termbin.com 9999
90[17:55:30] <jim> subcool, wait... what do you need with teamviewer (or something like it)?
91[17:55:30] <subcool> i have teamviewer and spotify?
92[17:55:40] <subcool> remote gui access
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94[17:55:51] <subcool> im not too cli savey
95[17:56:11] <jim> remote like how far, and for what purposes?
96[17:56:16] <subcool> although 20 ears of waiti for gui to improve,, im learning
97[17:56:25] <livebrain> teamviewer is heave on resources
98[17:56:30] <livebrain> vs x11vnc
99[17:56:31] <subcool> im across the stae right now
100[17:56:45] <subcool> livebrain yeah,, i know.. its a last resort
101[17:56:51] <jim> so pretty far
102[17:56:53] <nvz> xpra is the lightest thing I've used.. but its not as simple to use as x2go
103[17:57:14] <subcool> why cant i get qt5 or qml to work?
104[17:57:30] <subcool> isnt the point of apt - to do the dependcies work?
105[17:58:15] <joepublic> apt depends on your sources and .deb's already playing nice with each other.
106[17:58:36] <joepublic> it possible--frighteningly easy--to ask it for something impossible, and it will try.
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108[17:58:45] <subcool> yea, teamviewer, nordvpn and spotify sources.
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110[17:59:07] <nvz> ,v libqt5gui5
111[17:59:08] <judd> Package: libqt5gui5 on amd64 -- jessie: 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u2; jessie-security: 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u3; stretch: 5.7.1+dfsg-3+deb9u1; stretch-security: 5.7.1+dfsg-3+deb9u1; buster: 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u1; buster-security: 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u1; buster-proposed-updates: 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u2; bullseye: 5.12.5+dfsg-2; sid: 5.12.5+dfsg-2
112[17:59:12] <subcool> obviously i should remove teamviewer.
113[17:59:36] <nvz> wouldn't make a difference
114[17:59:49] <nvz> unless its partially installed and whats causing the error
115[17:59:58] <joepublic> it would cleanse your system and, to some extent, your soul
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117[18:00:01] <nvz> if the problem is sources, you need to fix the sources
118[18:00:14] <joepublic> I have had good luck with that vnc tutorial
119[18:00:17] <nvz> either way we need more info
120[18:00:19] <nvz> !bat
121[18:00:20] <dpkg> [Basic Apt* Troubleshooting]. To diagnose your problem, we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
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126[18:05:04] <jim> subcool, probably so
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146[18:16:01] <skibi> Hi, is this working?
147[18:16:13] <dvs> nope
148[18:16:25] <skibi> I last used IRC from 15 years ago
149[18:16:30] <skibi> :)
150[18:16:51] <skibi> Nice to know that I can get help with Debian somewhere ... I just started learning it :)
151[18:17:00] <annadane> it worked in oftc, pretty sure it works here too :P
152[18:17:50] <skibi> Is there any Acronis True Image replacement for Debian? So that I could restore the system to the saved state ... when I am learning, I will certainly spoil something many times.
153[18:18:18] <dvs> skibi, clonezilla is the closest it has
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156[18:19:17] <EdePopede> skibi: are you afraid you'll nuke your system or do you want to play with it?
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161[18:20:35] <skibi> A czy jest możliwe, by działało to jak w Windows czyli bezpośrednio w systemie i kiedy potrzebuję, to wybieram odpowiedni stan systemu, czekam parę minut i mam działający system?
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166[18:22:17] <skibi> sorry, this is English version :) Is it possible that it works like in Windows, that is directly in the system and when I need it, I choose the appropriate system state, wait a few minutes and have a working system?
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168[18:23:18] <skibi> EdePopede I want to play with it in a controlled way
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171[18:24:41] <rozie> skibi: there are some filesystem which support snapshots. maybe this is what you want
172[18:25:25] <skibi> rozie some more information?
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177[18:28:08] <joepublic> skibi: perhaps something like, replaced-url
178[18:28:19] <rozie> skibi: replaced-url
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182[18:29:11] <rozie> in general, you can also make copy of the files, preserving permissions and you should be able to restore system from such a copy
183[18:29:14] <rozie> it's not Windows
184[18:29:17] <EdePopede> skibi: you may also use a vm or a live system or do it the easy way and install a 2nd instance on a small partition just for that purpose. dd it, boot it, break it, reboot dd it back.
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186[18:30:12] <EdePopede> a debian installation can be really small, so a couple of GB for a redshirt system should be enough.
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189[18:32:26] <Wipadee> esp if one removes all these localizations?
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193[18:35:16] <serverman> consider snapshots in a type 2 hypervisor (virtualbox or workstation pro)
194[18:35:31] <serverman> skibi
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197[18:37:08] <subcool> Ok. holy sh
198[18:37:26] <subcool> so- i took out that teamviewer repo- did an update, it requested --fix-broken. Now everything is in stalling.
199[18:37:35] <subcool> i spent this last amount of time trying ot get logged back in here.
200[18:37:40] <subcool> Thanks for the helps guys.
201[18:37:56] <subcool> but- im going to go before i toss my tablet across the room.
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203[18:38:31] <subcool> exit
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208[18:42:40] <EdePopede> Wipadee: i kept the cache in wheezy for about the whole time i used it. office, java, firefox.
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210[18:43:43] <Wipadee> EdePopede, seems to be about 100 language packs for firefox, I started to remove them, then I thought that might help fingerprint my browser
211[18:43:56] <Wipadee> not using the default list of fonts or something?
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213[18:44:56] <EdePopede> Wipadee: replaced-url
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216[18:45:22] <Wipadee> ya used it in the past but
217[18:45:40] <Wipadee> ...does what I'm saying make sense?
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219[18:46:35] <EdePopede> years ago i used facemash with an extra user profile with different settings. could have also used xephyr or something, so that there's not much more than some hardware common to both accounts.
220[18:46:43] <Wipadee> for example Japanese TrueType font from Vine Linux
221[18:46:47] <Wipadee> is installed now
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223[18:47:28] <EdePopede> if you want to avoid this kind of tracking, then try to stay on defaults. nothing exotic. and i think they even can read your addon list.
224[18:47:59] <EdePopede> windows 10 home + chromium may be your best chance ;)
225[18:48:05] <Wipadee> yes, I know there are multiple risks, I use TBB a bit etc
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241[18:58:25] <qqz> now I have packaged xchroot-v2.4: replaced-url
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244[18:58:57] <qqz> Should I issue some email to find a mentor when this is just an update in the version number?
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260[19:08:17] <burrows> is it possible to have tty7 dedicated to the login screen, and whenever I enter my username and password it automatically switches to another tty?
261[19:08:40] <burrows> (lightdm)
262[19:08:42] <qqz> chvt can be used to switch the tty
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265[19:08:57] <qqz> use a script for that
266[19:09:26] <armin> i wonder why burrows wants to do that though
267[19:09:55] <qqz> I wonder so too
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270[19:11:36] <burrows> i have two user accounts (personal and business) and would like kodi running on its own tty. when I've finished watching something both personal and business accounts says, "session is locked" and I can't log into either
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272[19:12:26] <burrows> (that's why I want tty 7 dedicated to the login screen)
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276[19:15:59] <qqz> you need to start an own X server on another tty
277[19:16:18] <qqz> you can switch between both ttys with [Ctrl][Alt][FXX]
278[19:16:37] <qqz> then you can be logged in both accounts at the same time
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280[19:16:51] <qqz> I don´t know however how well Debian supports that
281[19:17:07] <burrows> right, I already know how to switch ttys and login to my de. I want to do it in a more gui friendly manner
282[19:17:30] <burrows> I chose this channel because the lightdm channel is dead, sorry
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286[19:18:34] <qqz> you can use xinit to start a second X server: xinit client -- server
287[19:19:05] <burrows> that starts the X server by seat, not by user
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294[19:21:38] <burrows> if I could execute a command before a user logs in and choose the tty the new user uses, I'll figure out the rest
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303[19:25:40] <EdePopede> i guess it would be xserverrc iirc from the old days
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329[19:45:57] <skibi> Thanks for this informations. So, I have a lot of to read :)
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362[20:06:38] <qqz> is the user who wanted two login screens still here?
363[20:06:48] <qqz> xinit /bin/sudo -H -E -u bel xterm -display :1 -- :1 vt08 -nolisten tcp &
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365[20:07:24] <annadane> burrows, ^
366[20:07:28] <qqz> or: /bin/sudo --preserve-env=DISPLAY,XAUTHORITY -u bel /bin/startkde -dsiplay :0
367[20:07:29] <qqz> yes
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375[20:17:33] <graphicsv> plasma-nm keeps loading at `waiting for a secondary connection` and disconnecting. How to fix it?
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392[20:28:28] <qqz> burrows: have you seen my suggestion?
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454[21:12:36] <burrows> qqz, looking now
455[21:12:38] <tuxmax> hi
456[21:13:15] <tuxmax> i try cast on chrome cast with vlc but i get no sound
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473[21:22:57] <burrows> qqz, this kind of works but it combines both displays onto the same tty "/bin/sudo --preserve-env=DISPLAY,XAUTHORITY -u foo /bin/startxfce4 -dsiplay :1"
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476[21:23:15] <burrows> kind of cool, but not quite right lol
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482[21:29:00] <qqz> burrows: don´t know what you mean by combine on same tty: that is not possible
483[21:29:15] <qqz> you switch the tty with [ctrl][alt][FXX]
484[21:29:22] <qqz> or with chvt XX
485[21:29:55] <burrows> if I run "/bin/sudo --preserve-env=DISPLAY,XAUTHORITY -u foo /bin/startxfce4 -dsiplay :1" on tty 7, the displays combine
486[21:30:05] <burrows> I couldn't get "xinit /bin/sudo -H -E -u bel xterm -display :1 -- :1 vt08 -nolisten tcp &" to work on tty 1
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489[21:31:37] <qqz> you need xinit (run it as root); otherwise no second X server will start and all clients connect to the same X server
490[21:32:09] <qqz> before the -- are the clients and afterwards the server (Xorg/X11/X)
491[21:32:26] <qqz> why does it not work
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493[21:32:34] <qqz> what error message do you get?
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498[21:34:12] <burrows> I was running the command as a normal (admin) user, it works when I run it as root
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501[21:35:12] <burrows> thanks, I can now make a script and keyboard shortcut to suit my lazy needs
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510[21:41:47] <qqz> basically you should rather use --preserver-env=DISPLAY,XAUTHORITY than -E because passing some variables from root to user is considered insecure
511[21:42:00] <qqz> have fun, anyway; I wish you
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517[21:45:59] <qqz> if you have some spare time you can have a look at my webpage replaced-url
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528[21:53:41] <hans__> what's the command for opening the GUI filemanager in a directory in a desktop-neutral fashion? (eg in XFCE4 one could use "thunar /dir", in gnomme one could use "nautilus /dir", but there was a neurtal command.. xdg-open /dir or something like that)
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530[21:54:31] <hans__> ... nvm, it IS xdg-open /dir
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538[21:57:28] <humbot> the best kind of user
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550[22:05:01] <teus> i formatted my laptop so i could install windows 10, so i had to convert the harddisk to GPT partitioning
551[22:05:03] <teus> my debian installation was cloned with clonezilla. i copied it back, but im wondering how to deal with the bootloader i have to get back
552[22:05:07] <teus> im chrooted and all ready, but i don't see an EFI/ESP partition in fdisk
553[22:05:32] <teus> i'm way confused. win10 installed just fine but didnt bother setting up the partition?
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556[22:07:19] <teus> oh great, im still on legacy
557[22:07:26] <teus> overlooked that one option
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563[22:12:08] <no_gravity> Hello! Debian only allows me to set my resolution to 2048x1080. But my monitor supports 2560x1440. How do I fix that?
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569[22:15:13] <joepublic> what video card, what driver?
570[22:15:35] <joepublic> anything between the card and the monitor (adapter, KVM) that might be eating the EDID?
571[22:16:15] <no_gravity> joepublic: How do I check all that?
572[22:17:05] <joepublic> well, you could install inxi and then type inxi -G for "what video card, driver"
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574[22:17:19] <joepublic> as for how it's plugged in, trace the cable.
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579[22:18:00] <no_gravity> Well, there is a cable :)
580[22:18:11] <no_gravity> The side that goes into the monitor is HDMI I think.
581[22:18:18] <no_gravity> The side that goes into the laptop is smaller.
582[22:18:50] <no_gravity> Inxi tells me:
583[22:18:51] <joepublic> so it could be mini-hdmi or mini-displayport, for example. you can type 'xrandr|grep connected' to see which one.
584[22:18:53] <no_gravity> Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 5500 driver: i915 v: kernel
585[22:19:20] <no_gravity> xrandr says:
586[22:19:23] <no_gravity> eDP-1 connected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
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588[22:19:26] <no_gravity> DP-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
589[22:19:29] <no_gravity> HDMI-1 connected primary 2048x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 597mm x 336mm
590[22:19:41] <joepublic> if you want to see all the modes it thinks your monitor will do, you can xrandr|less for the list
591[22:20:04] <joepublic> so you have two monitors.
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593[22:20:27] <no_gravity> Well, I guess one of the monitors is the internal one of the laptop?
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595[22:21:04] <joepublic> i would guess the same. that hdmi-1 is probably your monitor you want to do a better resolution, given that it's 2048x1080 right now.
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597[22:21:19] <no_gravity> In the output of xrand, no resolution is bigger then 2048x1080.
598[22:21:29] <joepublic> in the modes listed under that HDMI-1 in xrandr|less, your desired mode is not listed?
599[22:21:42] <no_gravity> Nope, highest is 2048x1080.
600[22:21:43] <ciciolina> Hi!!! i have a question, i used debian 9 and have a long battery duration (5 to 7 hours), but after install from zero debian 10 i have 2 hours to almost 3 hours. i install TLP activated in battery mode, but i cant have a debian10 with good battery duration, what can i do???
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603[22:22:18] <joepublic> no_gravity, you can use a combination of the cvt command and xrandr commands to make it available.
604[22:22:33] <no_gravity> joepublic: How so?
605[22:23:08] <joepublic> This page (ignore where it says ubuntu) details the process: replaced-url
606[22:23:30] <ciciolina> i disable the nvidia drivers and use only intel driver and have a basic installation, only vpn
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608[22:25:08] <ciciolina> the only new thing is i put a new HDF screen and install debian10, the HDF screen have more battery consumption? sorry for the noob question ;D
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613[22:25:36] <teus> great, dell created my windows usb bootable in legacy only, i believe
614[22:25:44] <teus> can't do uefi
615[22:25:47] <hans__> > Your Linux kernel was compiled with IOMMU support, including DMA remapping. See the CONFIG_DMAR kernel compilation option. The PCI stub driver (CONFIG_PCI_STUB) is required as well.
616[22:26:11] <hans__> is the debian 10 stock kernel for amd64 compiled with IOMMU support?
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618[22:26:23] <no_gravity> joepublic: After doing that, "xrandr -s 2560x1440" still gives me "Size 2560x1440 not found in available modes"
619[22:26:36] <joepublic> what does xrandr|less tell you?
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621[22:27:25] <joepublic> also, you probably mean xrandr --output HDMI-1 -s 2560x1440
622[22:28:21] <hans__> after running `cat /boot/config-$(uname -r) | grep -i iomm`, i'm guessing the answer is *yes*
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624[22:28:40] <jhutchins> hans__: That would be the definitive answer.
625[22:28:49] <joepublic> or the exact name of the mode, i.e. xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode 2560x1440_60.00
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627[22:28:56] <no_gravity> joepublic: I think I managed to add that resolution now. But switching to it makes the screen go dark.
628[22:29:12] <joepublic> so perhaps it doesn't support that mode at that frequency.
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630[22:29:23] <joepublic> (if at all?)
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632[22:29:51] <no_gravity> Well, maybe my laptop does not support it.
633[22:30:02] <jhutchins> joepublic: My guess would be that the video chipset doesn't support anything higher.
634[22:30:04] <joepublic> you could try 59 or 30 for the frequency also
635[22:30:29] <no_gravity> joepublic: How?
636[22:30:29] <jhutchins> ER, no_gravity ^
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638[22:30:45] <joepublic> also very possible.
639[22:31:19] <joepublic> no_gravity, by doing the same thing but telling cvt 2560 1440 59 or 2560 1440 30 instead of 2560 1440 60
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643[22:32:43] <no_gravity> joepublic: Same result.
644[22:32:45] <no_gravity> Black screen
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646[22:32:54] <no_gravity> And the terminal says: Failed to change the screen configuration!
647[22:33:12] <joepublic> okay. then something (the laptop, the monitor) doesn't support that resolution it seems
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652[22:34:01] <no_gravity> joepublic: Maybe the cable?
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658[22:35:15] <joepublic> I would doubt it's the cable, but no harm in trying a different one.
659[22:35:17] <jhutchins> teus: Get it working?
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661[22:35:45] <no_gravity> joepublic: Well, I don't have a different one :)
662[22:37:05] <joepublic> You could redefine 2048x1080 as suitable? (not ideal, but suitable)
663[22:38:14] <no_gravity> joepublic: Then I'd rather go back to my old monitor at 1920x1024. I don't like upscaled pixels. They look blurry.
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665[22:39:30] <no_gravity> Strange that inxi reports the card as "Intel HD Graphics 5500" which according to google has a max resolution of 3840 x 2160 @ 60 Hz.
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680[22:43:30] <no_gravity> The monitor also has an USB cable .. should I try to connect it via that one?
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694[22:54:00] <joepublic> connecting the monitor by usb cable is not really a thing in this context.
695[22:54:43] <joepublic> also, it's not likely that your pixels are being upscaled unless you told your xrandr things like --scale-from and --panning
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702[22:58:37] <no_gravity> I would say the monitor is scaling them up
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704[22:58:47] <no_gravity> As the native resolution is 2560x1440.
705[22:59:04] <no_gravity> I get the feeling that my minidisplayport-hdmi cable is the problem.
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707[22:59:23] <no_gravity> From what I read online, these cables do not have very hight resolutions.
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709[22:59:52] <no_gravity> I wonder how debian knows that.
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711[23:01:02] <hacktime> Active adapters can do 4K. Passive ones get to about 1920x1200 or something.
712[23:01:37] <no_gravity> hacktime: How do I know if mine is active of passive?
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766[23:38:55] <joepublic> I was under the impression that it was connected by hdmi, not through a displayport adapter
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783[23:49:32] <riverr> Does the password matter if I have only key authentication enabled on the VPS?
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785[23:50:37] <nkuttler> yes
786[23:51:11] <riverr> nkuttler, why?
787[23:52:09] <nkuttler> riverr: security comes in layers. any weakness weakens the entire system
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790[23:53:23] <riverr> I dont know, I am actually curious how it weakens the security if its only accessible with key auth
791[23:54:05] <nkuttler> riverr: that is an extermely strong assumption
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793[23:54:30] <riverr> nkuttler, just give me some examples lol I am actually curious
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798[23:54:51] <hacktime> riverr: Reverse shells exist. Then someone would have a shell as your user. The only thing keeping them from elevating to root is a password.
799[23:54:56] <nkuttler> other services could use auth. unprivileged user could get access to more privileged user
800[23:55:07] <riverr> hacktime, oh yeah good point
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802[23:55:25] <riverr> hmm
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805[23:55:39] <annadane> r...reverse shells?
806[23:55:48] <hacktime> riverr: It doesn't matter what your ssh authentication config is. Always have a strong password.
807[23:56:05] <riverr> Okay it makes little more sense now
808[23:56:09] <nkuttler> just remember that security comes in layers
809[23:56:10] <riverr> hacktime, do u hacc
810[23:56:12] <hacktime> annadane: Yes. A process on a system that initiates a connection outbound to a listener, giving the listener a functioning shell on the origin host.
811[23:56:22] <hacktime> riverr: It's my job, so yes.
812[23:56:31] <riverr> hacktime, really? What kind of hacking
813[23:56:44] <riverr> Like binary exploitation or web application stuff
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815[23:57:15] <hacktime> These days, corporate pen testing. So, whatever it takes, really, within the agreed scope of the engagement.
816[23:57:22] <hacktime> Anyway, I'd like to not veer off topic too much.
817[23:57:22] <nkuttler> i've escalated privileges on a system this week, and exploited an sql injection in a web service
818[23:57:25] <Malivaso> oof
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820[23:57:41] <nkuttler> ctf events though
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823[23:58:24] <riverr> hacktime, oh okay. Does pentesters get paid by hours or what they find?
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