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5 [00:02:43] <matu> thanks bernyrd
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7 [00:02:50] <hussar_> where is pip3's config file
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9 [00:02:59] <matu> i did not know that hid meant
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11 [00:03:22] <matu> so i supposed it would only works partially by any chance
12 [00:03:51] <matu> i should start a blog to test these devices on GNU/Linux
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14 [00:04:05] <matu> and write some reports
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16 [00:04:29] <matu> i rly think i will, we don't have this kind of information available
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18 [00:04:36] <matu> easily
19 [00:04:39] <matu> thank you
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28 [00:13:58] <bernyrd> yeah if you can write about it, it will be useful. probably no traffic for years but then someone somewhere eventually searches a search engine and finds your report :)
29 [00:14:16] <bernyrd> lot of info I get from blogs that do not receive much traffic.
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42 [00:25:37] <nt80> how can I list all non-free packets installed on my debian installation?
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45 [00:27:38] <i_wdt> nt80: like this ‘dpkg-query -W -f='${Section}\t${Package}\n' | grep ^non-free’
46 [00:28:35] <otyugh> hey. What would be the correct way to ask systemd not to wait for any network-related service to delay the start of a session ? I can see it's half of the boot time, and I don't need the network being available right away.
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48 [00:30:39] <nt80> i_wdt, thanks, it returns empty output. should it return empty for `... | grep ^main’ as well?
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52 [00:36:15] <ksk> otyugh: some units which start your desktop? most likely tell systemd they want networking - most likely, there is a reason for that
53 [00:36:57] <otyugh> ksk, there is, but they could be started afterward
54 [00:37:16] <otyugh> Is there an option to say "launch in the background, don't wait" ?
55 [00:37:19] <ksk> the maintainer of these packages seems to have a different opinion.
56 [00:37:31] <ksk> you can edit the unit file in question, to not depend on networking
57 [00:37:34] <i_wdt> otyugh: no, do y use a buster or sid release? I'm using it with unstable and it's work but on Ubuntu 18.04, this doesn’t work from work. Mb dpkg version version problem
58 [00:37:47] <ksk> take a look at systemd-anazlyze or so - tells you which unit takes how much time to startup
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60 [00:38:49] <otyugh> ksk, yeah. I did that. I tried to change the bit under [install] with the wantedBy bit. But it doesn't seem to update systemd's behaviour
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64 [00:41:57] <i_wdt> I think that best practice is to turn off all demons that are not needed or do not understand what they are doing. further include them if necessary
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75 [00:50:44] <jmcnaught> otyugh: how do you configure networking? NetworkManager, /etc/network/interfaces, or something else?
76 [00:51:06] <otyugh> networkmanager
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78 [00:51:43] <otyugh> i_wdt, this is not the issue. I know what they are doing. I just don't need them to delay booting, they can be up wenhever they are ready
79 [00:52:17] <otyugh> Most people don't need to have network up to have a working session.
80 [00:52:26] <jmcnaught> otyugh: is NetworkManager-wait-online.service enabled?
81 [00:52:34] <otyugh> first thing I disabled
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90 [00:55:11] <i_wdt> otyugh: how about disable this (networkmamager.service) service and enable/disable on triggers or manualy by alias
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92 [00:55:46] <otyugh> i_wdt, this seems even hackier than just editing the systemd files. >.>
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94 [00:56:15] <otyugh> But I get your point
95 [00:56:54] <otyugh> I was hoping that there was a better solution, as I'm not super familiar with systemd.
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98 [00:57:27] <otyugh> I just wonder what's gotten into debian/ubuntu to delay boot that much for a feature most people don't need.
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100 [00:58:09] <jmcnaught> otyugh: not sure how to solve your problem, but did you edit system files in /lib/systemd?
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105 [00:59:26] <otyugh> nay, I did it from etc/systemd/system/ as it is maint
106 [01:00:03] <otyugh> But if you are as unfamiliar as me with systemd, don't bother. I was asking in case of anyone familiar could tell me how to got a different route alltogether.
107 [01:00:30] <otyugh> thanks tough ^^'
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111 [01:00:58] <jmcnaught> I'm familiar with systemd I just don't know how to solve your particular problem. Just wanted to warn you about packages overwriting changes in /lib/systemd in case you had made changes there.
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118 [01:05:39] <i_wdt> one of solution is setting the script (that running service) at x session startup
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122 [01:06:43] <jmcnaught> Looking at "systemd-analyze critical-chain" might provide some insight if you have not already looked at it.
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126 [01:11:09] <otyugh> did so.
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137 [01:18:05] <bigMouthCommie> i'm running into an error every time i tab-complete.
138 [01:19:03] <bigMouthCommie> warning: setlocale: LC_CTYPE: cannot change locale (en_NZ.UTF-8)
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140 [01:19:18] <bigMouthCommie> i dont want to be en_NZ anyway. en_US would be fine
141 [01:19:44] <mutante> i think "dpkg-reconfigure locales" and you get a menu where you can select or deselect them
142 [01:19:50] <bigMouthCommie> i've followed the instructions i've found online for resetting language preferences probably 3 times now. still throws errors.
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144 [01:21:20] <bigMouthCommie> yea. i just did that but apt still throws errors
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148 [01:22:40] <ksk> otyugh did you deamon-reload? :P
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151 [01:22:58] <otyugh> yup.
152 [01:23:09] <ksk> also, best practice is to copy the unit files that came via package, and copy them to /etc/systemd/system/ - they will take priority then
153 [01:23:14] <otyugh> seem I need to systemctel reenable so that .target get refreshed
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155 [01:23:29] <otyugh> I do that already.
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157 [01:23:51] <otyugh> thanks though x)
158 [01:24:13] <jmcnaught> you can just do "systemctl edit foobar.service" and it will make /etc/systemd/system/foobar.service.d/override.conf for you in your configured editor.
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162 [01:30:42] <bernyrd> ksk: for most part is no reason for systemd to delay boot for network... even happen on server often, very annoying, machine does not come up or waits for like 20min to come up (if you have other access, like screen or IPMI)
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167 [01:36:09] <eb0t> hey i dont get it if i do apt-cache search alsa....i get a big list ofthings most of which are not alsa anything and alsa-utils is not in the list
168 [01:36:18] <eb0t> but if i search alsa-utils it finds it
169 [01:36:25] <eb0t> does anyone know why this is happening
170 [01:37:23] <mutante> eb0t: i get a big list too but alsa-utils is in it. it's just not sorted alphabetically. try apt-cache search alsa | grep alsa-utils
171 [01:37:26] <mutante> or | sort
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173 [01:37:57] <eb0t> ok ill try that ...i expected it to just show alsa stuff but it decided to pull in the entire repo
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175 [01:38:33] <mutante> eb0t: that is because it does not just search the short description line but also the whole text you would see with apt-cache show
176 [01:38:33] <eb0t> wow that sort command is excellent ..thanks
177 [01:38:47] <jmcnaught> 'apt-cache --names-only search alsa'
178 [01:38:52] <mutante> so i think all of these packages just happen to have "alsa" somewhere in the description
179 [01:39:00] <mutante> maybe even as part of other words?
180 [01:39:11] <eb0t> thanks ill make a note of the sort and the --names-only
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182 [01:43:40] <eb0t> those are kind of a life changer
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184 [01:46:41] <jmcnaught> aptitude search is also pretty great
185 [01:46:52] <eb0t> thanks
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279 [02:57:02] <ellie2> I'm having a problem with static IPs and Debian and wondered if someone could advise me
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281 [02:58:05] <somiaj> explain your problem, and how you configure your network.
282 [02:58:06] <ellie2> I have my system configured to use static IPs, but when my Debian box loses it's connection to my router, it keeps changing back to DHCP!
283 [02:58:22] <ellie2> I really hate DHCP
284 [02:58:30] <somiaj> How are you configuring your network?
285 [02:58:45] <somiaj> such as /etc/network/interfaces, network-manager, or one of the many other tools out there?
286 [02:59:05] <ellie2> I don't have access to this machine atm unfortunately as I cannot ssh into it!
287 [02:59:34] <ellie2> But I usually fully disble network-manager as I find it to be a nightmare. I prefer to use text configuration in /etc
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289 [03:00:03] <ellie2> But there's some program keeps chaning settings.
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291 [03:00:21] <somiaj> in /etc, clarify what you are using?
292 [03:00:46] <somiaj> if you are using /etc/network/interfaces, I don't see what could be doing this. That is how I configure my static ips and I haven't ran into this issue
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296 [03:01:10] <somiaj> if you are using some other tool to manually configure, it could be that you have conflicting tools trying to control the network, in this case track down the conflicting tools.
297 [03:01:26] <ellie2> I feel stupid, I don't have access to the machine now as its remote and becuase it's changed its IP again, I cannot ssh into atm
298 [03:02:37] <ellie2> I set its IP to 192.168.0.77. I do this so that I can use port forwarding on my router so that I can log in remotely
299 [03:03:24] <Makerblaker> You have DHCP turned off on the router?
300 [03:03:30] <ellie2> But when the router is reset, it changes it's IP to 192.168.0.1xx and I can no longer ssh into it as port forwarding is ONLY for 192.168.0.77
301 [03:03:35] <Makerblaker> Or at least that address excluded?
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304 [03:03:58] <ellie2> I will have to wait until I get physical access to the machine again tomorrow.
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307 [03:04:41] <SerajewelKS> ellie2: is .77 in the DHCP range of your router?
308 [03:05:01] <SerajewelKS> it's a bad idea to statically configure a machine in the DHCP range. your router could hand out that address to something else.
309 [03:05:02] <somiaj> Another possible culprit is avahi, this might be something that detects when a router is added/removed
310 [03:05:14] <ellie2> No. DHCP range is 192.168.0.100-199 iirc
311 [03:06:01] <somiaj> you could also just configure the router to assign that mac address the desired ip, but it would be nice to track down the culprit, you should be able to make it so the ip stays static even if the wire is unpluged/pluged back in, or a router goes offline/online
312 [03:06:05] <ellie2> I usually use numbers below 100 for my static IPs
313 [03:06:30] <somiaj> but yea, until you have access to your machine, it will be hard for us to help you debug the issue
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315 [03:07:48] <SerajewelKS> the most likely thing is as somiaj said, there's probably two network configuration systems in use on the machine
316 [03:08:07] <ellie2> I've had this problem a few times and I've never manged to track it down.
317 [03:08:23] <Makerblaker> Is this a clean install?
318 [03:08:25] <SerajewelKS> once the network is up with a static ip, ifupdown doesn't care about it anymore
319 [03:08:37] <SerajewelKS> so if something is changing the IP later, it's not ifupdown
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321 [03:08:56] <ellie2> No, this is many years old. It's usually not a big problem becuase it's rare that it loses connection to the router
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323 [03:09:17] <somiaj> if using the interfaces file, I could see maybe allow-hotplug causing things to trigger with a router going down/comming back up, since it might detect a unplug/replug event.
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325 [03:09:24] <somiaj> just use auto instead
326 [03:09:28] <ellie2> But it's annoying when it happens as I can't fix it remotely
327 [03:09:45] <somiaj> but this is all spectualation until we get more info about your configuration
328 [03:10:42] <ellie2> Yeah, sorry about that. I will post my /etc/network/interfaces when I get access to it!
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346 [03:25:02] <mtcdood> I'd like to mv to a filename containing slashes, but Bash is interpreting them as a directory path no matter how I try escaping them
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351 [03:25:53] <mtcdood> commands like 'mv 930.mp3 "$(cat file)" where file contains a filename with slashes in it
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353 [03:26:23] <mtcdood> $(cat file | sed 's|/|\/|') had no impact, nor did adding an additional or two additional backslashes in an attempt to escape the slashes
354 [03:26:57] <mtcdood> nor did adding escaped single quotes \' or "'" around "$(cat file)"
355 [03:28:33] <mtcdood> the slashes are part of dates
356 [03:28:40] <mtcdood> like 9/30/2019
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368 [03:36:38] <eb0t> urxvt -e bash -c 'tmux new -s work'
369 [03:36:41] <eb0t> urxvt -e bash -c 'tmux new -s weechat'
370 [03:36:42] <eb0t> Y
371 [03:36:52] <eb0t> any ideas what is wrong with those commands in a script
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374 [03:37:14] <eb0t> it opens the tmux files..but rather than like multiple terminals ..they seem to be inside each other
375 [03:37:49] <eb0t> when i close one ..the only one i can see..it closes but the other appears
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394 [03:56:49] <jadax> my desktop got unexpected power-off and now after turning it back up when I type password - I get back to password screen
395 [03:57:04] <swift110> hey all
396 [03:57:04] <jadax> like something can't start X
397 [03:57:15] <jadax> and gives me back the login screen
398 [03:57:35] <jadax> how do I debug it? I can switch to other terminal and log in as root in text only mode
399 [03:57:38] <jadax> with no X
400 [03:57:43] <jadax> dmesg doesn
401 [03:57:48] <jadax> 't show anything useful
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404 [04:00:20] <ksk> jadax: sounds more like an X problem, than anything kernel related (dmesg shows kernel messages)
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406 [04:00:40] <jadax> so /var/log/X ?
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408 [04:00:53] <ksk> most likely. my experience with desktops is limited, sorry.
409 [04:01:08] <jadax> the thing is - whole system got unexpected shutdown so I thought it would be some filesystem errors
410 [04:01:13] <jadax> that's usually what happens
411 [04:01:24] <jadax> but then it's ext4 so journal is there for a reason
412 [04:01:34] <ksk> yeah - but they would a) be fixed automagicly b) would give you an error, if not
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414 [04:02:09] <ksk> did you check if there is anything in /lost+found
415 [04:02:44] <ksk> (I would assume though, that a automatic filesystem repair would not do such thing)
416 [04:03:45] <jadax> lost+found is empty
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420 [04:05:42] <ksk> kk - Id go and debug the X stack then (starting with the session manager? not sure)
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423 [04:08:55] <jadax> my ~/.bashrc seems messed up
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425 [04:09:08] <jadax> I'm searching for default debian bashrc now
426 [04:09:23] <ksk> it does not get executed by a graphical login at all ;)
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429 [04:14:20] <fryguy> hrmm, i'm running into a weird preseed problem. I'm using virt-install to preseed, injecting into initrd. If I inject preseed.cfg and change nothing else, it works. If I specify preseed/file=/preseed.cfg as a boot parameter, it works. If I rename the file to "somethingelse.preseed.cfg" and change the boot parameter to match, it doesn't preseed. The contents of the preseed file is identical in both
430 [04:14:26] <fryguy> cases. why might changing the name affect this?
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436 [04:21:02] <jadax> I can log in to the system using text-only terminal
437 [04:21:04] <jadax> so I log in as root
438 [04:21:08] <jadax> then I su <user>
439 [04:21:23] <jadax> and I have no access to most commands
440 [04:21:28] <jadax> like ls or env
441 [04:21:47] <jadax> they are all 'bash: env: command not found'
442 [04:22:10] <jadax> but root is fine, root has access to these commands
443 [04:22:18] <ksk> using buster? read the release notes regarding so
444 [04:22:22] <ksk> s/so/su
445 [04:22:26] <jadax> yes, buster
446 [04:22:26] <ksk> or use "su user -"
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448 [04:23:43] <jadax> yes, I'm on buster
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472 [04:56:12] <cam3lto3_> hello, i just purchased a new domain and would like to redirect my old url to the new one, how can i do that
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475 [04:58:02] <ksk> use HTTP 302 (or 301, but careful with that, as its permanent!) - not really a debian question ;)
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522 [05:51:24] <jadax> My default welcome screen (aka login window) on ctrl+alt+F1 console is messed up. When I type up correct user credentials it flashes and goes back to login window. If I go to ctrl+alt+F2 and log in as same user and startx - then my graphical environment starts just fine
523 [05:51:44] <jadax> how do I debug the ctrl+alt+F1 problem?
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527 [05:55:46] <saptech> how do I search for a source file?
528 [05:56:12] <saptech> in repositories
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530 [05:57:46] <swift110> ook
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532 [05:58:11] <saptech> hey swift110
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539 [06:01:59] <eb0t> hey i cant find nerdtree for vim
540 [06:02:07] <eb0t> surely that should be in debian by now
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551 [06:08:44] <somiaj> Seems someone tried to package it, but it never made it into debian
552 [06:08:47] <somiaj> replaced-url
553 [06:08:48] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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555 [06:09:01] <somiaj> and replaced-url
556 [06:09:02] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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559 [06:10:55] <eb0t> omg ..i use vim as an ide and work tool ..but i mainly use nerdtree and also vim notes..and i have just virtually finished installing and setting up debian
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561 [06:11:04] <eb0t> and there are no vim notes..and no nerdtree
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566 [06:12:37] <eb0t> i shouldnt have taken it for granted ..that all vim stuff would be available like in every distro
567 [06:14:01] <somiaj> so just install these plugins in $HOME
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569 [06:14:40] <eb0t> ill look into it
570 [06:14:48] <eb0t> thanks
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576 [06:21:06] <swift110> ok
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812 [08:02:16] <jelly> !qotd0
813 [08:02:16] <dpkg> <nvz> Pretty much lost interest in school after the 3rd of 4th year when I seen that they couldnt teach me anything anymore, and I began my own quest of knowlage
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864 [08:39:54] <ratrace> I love it when bugs like bug 941414 put a gun to my head and force me to fix stuff or else in about a week hundreds of websites in our infra will go dark....
865 [08:40:35] <ratrace> thankfully it's a single shell script I can download from git and not rely on debian packaging
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898 [08:58:17] <jelly> ratrace: if it's "about a week" then your cron job does not often enough
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1065 [10:38:31] <k311> Hello, debian is a rolling relise?
1066 [10:38:57] <apollo13> no
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1068 [10:39:05] <k311> fixed?
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1070 [10:40:33] <k311> Debian is a Fixed relise or semi-rolling?
1071 [10:40:51] <ayew> fixed
1072 [10:41:01] <k311> Thanks!
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1082 [10:46:27] <jmd> systemd-timesyncd cannot seem to contact *.debian.pool.ntp.org (I suspect a firewall is blocking them) Is there an easy workaround?
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1088 [10:49:56] <ratrace> well.... debian testing and unstable are in principle rolling releases
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1090 [10:52:44] <ayekat> well, testing is rolling with a small dent in the wheel :-P
1091 [10:53:33] <ratrace> jmd: use another pool?
1092 [10:54:19] <jmd> Any suggestions? (I suspect port 123 might be generally blocked)
1093 [10:55:06] <ratrace> if you have port 123 blocked at an upstream firewall, then surely there must be a NTP service inside your LAN or DMZ.... and if not? fire the sysadmin of that network.
1094 [10:55:35] <ratrace> jmd: but uh... tried with anotehr pool?
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1097 [10:57:55] <jmd> Yes I have.
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1115 [11:11:26] <ratrace> jmd: so what kind of network is that? also, you can use mtr-tiny to diagnose of port 123 is blocked and where
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1117 [11:12:08] <Eightynine> You know, you where right. My motherboard has 3 LEDs on it: CPU, RAM, VGA. These LEDs are there for easy diagnostics. If LED is turned off then the respective component works without problems. But if it turns on and shines red then the component is bad or doesn't work properly. Previously only VGA was turned on during PC boot (and then indicator turns off, PC keeps booting) and RAM indicator is turning on too. Another issue I had is Telegram update. That was
1118 [11:12:08] <Eightynine> a bug. It showed update from 1.8.8 to the same version, now it shows 1.8.9.
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1126 [11:14:59] <jmd> ratrace: I'll checkout mtr-tiny Thanks.
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1131 [11:16:05] <ratrace> jmd: it's a traceroute on steroids and can do syn/udp based "pinging"
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1135 [11:17:58] <jmd> Yeah it looks like all ports except 443 are blocked. :(
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1137 [11:18:42] <ratrace> jmd: what kind of network is that!
1138 [11:19:03] <jmd> A firewalled one.
1139 [11:19:52] <ratrace> by a clueless admin?
1140 [11:20:07] <ratrace> or are there LAN/DMZ proxy services for non-https traffic?
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1142 [11:20:20] <ratrace> like, dunno, dns? ntp? email?
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1365 [13:57:27] <ALowther> Where is `The name org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1 was not provided by any .service files` coming from? It's an error I try to get when using `systemctl start $SERVICE` as non-root and without sudo. I can get it to work by using sudo, it just seems like a vague error that isn't obviously related to root privileges, at least to me, and I was hoping to get a better understanding.
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1368 [13:58:46] <ratrace> ALowther: systemd has the ability to check policykit for privileged operations.
1369 [13:59:08] <ratrace> in fact, it doesn't understand the difference, and can't tell you "you must've run this as root" because it wouldn't be true.
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1371 [13:59:15] <ratrace> yes, it stinks.
1372 [13:59:37] <ALowther> !policykit
1373 [14:00:05] <ratrace> ALowther: google up "polkit"
1374 [14:00:10] <ALowther> Bummer, any hits/tips on understand policykit—I imagine I could google it, but if you have relevant sources, that would be great. Everything on google isn't a great resource.
1375 [14:00:15] <ALowther> ratrace: Will do.
1376 [14:00:35] <ratrace> ALowther: it's a dbus based sudo analogue from the gnome/freedesktop camp.
1377 [14:01:36] <ratrace> essentially it's a list of policies written in javascript (!) which resembles more a role-based access control, than sudo. Anyway, if you're using GNOME, chances are it's present and if you start a service as non root, it'll present you a nice GUI "password pls" dialogue.
1378 [14:02:08] <ratrace> (polkit daemon is not in javascript, policies only are)
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1383 [14:08:23] <ALowther> ratrace: Interesting. I'm using Debian on a VPS—GNOME, to my knowledge, is just for GUI. I wonder why that is included in my distribution, unless that's just how it ships.
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1385 [14:09:35] <ratrace> sorry, not sure I understand "why that is included in my distribution"
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1388 [14:10:42] <ALowther> The VPS provider allows me to select which distribution I want to use and installs it. If I am only accessing remotely and if GNOME is only for GUI, I wonder why they installed a version of Debian including GNOME support/packages.
1389 [14:11:16] <ratrace> sounds like amateur hour.
1390 [14:11:52] <ratrace> especially since you should be having polkit then, if gnome is installed.
1391 [14:11:57] <ksk> I agree, kind of a red flag if the image on your VPS contains a desktop.
1392 [14:12:00] <ALowther> ratrace: Could be. It's a low cost VPS I found. 3GB RAM for $3/month. Something interesting to learn and keep in mind.
1393 [14:12:34] <ksk> you could try the obvious, and ask your provider why that is, of course ;)
1394 [14:12:34] <ALowther> ratrace: Well, from what you're saying, I do, because I am getting that error when trying to start a service via systemd without root/sudo
1395 [14:12:47] <ALowther> ksk: I absolutely will! :)
1396 [14:13:03] <ksk> ALowther: eh? only the superuser is allowed to start/stop services, that is totally normal
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1398 [14:13:25] <ratrace> ALowther: no, you should see a popup asking for password, if polkit is present (and systemd is using it)
1399 [14:14:03] <ratrace> ksk: actually not on gnome systems. systemctl will consult polkit, and if you read above, the problem here is that systemctl didn't say "you must be root" but complained no dbus-activated unit provided the polkit service.
1400 [14:14:11] <ALowther> ksk: But if polkit is associated with GNOME, and not present otherwise on Debian—by default, and I am getting an error associated with polkit, then wouldn't that mean GNOME is installed?
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1402 [14:14:38] <ksk> mhhmkay. even on a remote ssh login, for example?
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1405 [14:15:14] <ratrace> ksk: afaik yes, but you won't get a gui popup naturally. I think I saw that last time I tried feh dorah.
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1407 [14:16:01] <whislock> polkit does not require gnome - only a small set of libraries.
1408 [14:16:19] <ksk> wondering how anyone could think of that as a nice feature, but nevermind me :x
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1410 [14:16:51] <whislock> Just install 'policykit-1'.
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1414 [14:17:57] <ratrace> true, but gnome requires polkit.
1415 [14:18:06] <whislock> A requires B does not mean that B requires A.
1416 [14:18:08] <ratrace> so if gnome is present, polkit should be too.
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1420 [14:19:42] <ALowther> Is there an easy way to look in my filesystem to see if GNOME is indeed installed? I looked in /etc and did not see a directory named GNOME
1421 [14:20:01] <whislock> dpkg -l | grep gnome
1422 [14:20:02] <dpkg> No packages found matching | grep gnome
1423 [14:20:02] <ksk> "dpkg -l | grep gnome"
1424 [14:20:07] <whislock> Thank you, dpkg.
1425 [14:20:14] <ksk> or dpkg -l $gnome-pkg-name" - if you know how its called
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1427 [14:20:32] <ratrace> ALowther: wait, I thought you said you had your VPS installed with gnome...
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1429 [14:20:50] <ALowther> Okay, I got no results, so that seems promising.
1430 [14:20:54] <whislock> It is highly unlikely you have gnome if polkit is missing.
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1432 [14:21:01] <whislock> Simply install policykit-1.
1433 [14:21:29] <ALowther> ratrace: No, I apparently, incorrectly, deduced that since you mentioned polkit is shipping with GNOME that since I am getting a polkit error then I have GNOME installed.
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1435 [14:22:02] <ALowther> whislock: I thought the error that I am getting is from polkit.
1436 [14:22:04] <ratrace> ALowther: you have the OTHER way around: no polkit present
1437 [14:22:05] <whislock> Attempting to manage services under a non-root context will cause systemd to attempt to authorize via polkit, as that is the only other avenue available.
1438 [14:22:18] <ratrace> ALowther: or at least not enabled as as dbus-activated service for some reason
1439 [14:22:19] <whislock> The error is from systemd not finding polkit.
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1441 [14:22:35] <ratrace> whislock: yes, we've been through that, pls re-read backlog :)
1442 [14:22:56] <whislock> ratrace: You've been assuming gnome is installed the whole time. Backlog seems of little value.
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1446 [14:23:14] <ratrace> whislock: because ALowther said they did
1447 [14:23:14] <whislock> I'm not interested in walking back incorrect assumptions. I am only interested in the actual state and the actual solution.
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1451 [14:23:44] <ratrace> I said from the start that the error means systemd wanted polkit. I never said anything about gnome being installed, ALowther assumed the other way around.
1452 [14:24:06] <whislock> "ratrace | so if gnome is present, polkit should be too"
1453 [14:24:09] <whislock> Moving on.
1454 [14:24:20] <ratrace> the only incorrect assumption here is you thinking I'm having incorrect assumptions. so you're.... meta-incorrect about my assumptions ;)
1455 [14:24:23] <whislock> ALowther: Install 'policykit-1' and there you go.
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1458 [14:24:37] <ALowther> ratrace: whislock is correct.
1459 [14:24:42] <ALowther> whislock: I understand now, thank you.
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1461 [14:24:52] <whislock> ratrace: Mine was not an assumption. It was an observation. Take care.
1462 [14:25:01] <ratrace> I can't believe this convo.....
1463 [14:25:09] <whislock> ALowther: You're quite welcome.
1464 [14:25:12] <ALowther> whislock: I don't want/need polkit, just wanted a better understanding of why such an abstract error message was presented when needing root priveleges.
1465 [14:25:34] <whislock> Heh. That's not the first time I've heard that complaint in that particular circumstance.
1466 [14:25:40] <ratrace> I never said gnome had to be installed, I was merely explaining what polkit was! And then ALowther said they had VPS with GNOME and I said okay, if GNOME is there, then polkit must be too.
1467 [14:25:42] <whislock> "You're not root and I can't find polkit" would be better.
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1469 [14:25:56] <ALowther> ratrace: He's correct in understand that I've been interpreting this convo through a specific lens. I must have misunderstood your initial message. I thought you were saying that it was using polkit and polkit was providing that error.
1470 [14:26:14] <ratrace> ALowther: no I specifically said that a dbus-activated polkit service was not found
1471 [14:26:15] <earend1> shh.
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1473 [14:26:35] <ratrace> ALowther: you assumed you had gnome because I explained what polkit was, that it came from the gnome/freedesktop camp.
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1477 [14:27:09] <earend1> is that dbus without polkit running wild and free?
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1481 [14:30:19] <ratrace> The $1M question is... is dbus even running :) because it's not pulled in by base installation.
1482 [14:30:31] <whislock> ALowther: The error itself originates from dbus. systemd can't authorize the action under root privileges, because you didn't execute the command under a root context. systemd tries to consult policykit via dbus. dbus can't find the policykit provider, throws that cryptic error, and fails to authorize the action. systemd then also gives a cryptic error.
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1486 [14:30:59] <whislock> ALowther: If you wanted to know the full failure process. ;)
1487 [14:31:09] <earend1> is there any desktop/x-window environment not depending on dbus?
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1489 [14:31:48] <ALowther> ratrace: Yes, it's running.
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1491 [14:31:58] <ALowther> whislock: Yes, thank you :).
1492 [14:32:04] <ratrace> earend1: probably not. though technically it's doable, I don't think it's by default in debian
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1496 [14:33:48] <earend1> i mean. i get it. there must me some interop bus .. and access control. is chmod not well? not as fancy?
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1498 [14:34:33] <earend1> ratrace: if you say debian u don't mean any window thing. like openbox or lxde or so. just consoles. right?
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1500 [14:34:39] <ratrace> earend1: polkit does way more than unix permissions, aka DAC. polkit is more like a MAC
1501 [14:35:10] <ratrace> earend1: I meant I don't think debian packages that use dbus are built with no dep on dbus
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1513 [14:42:20] <cm13g09> hi all, Debian 10.1, radeon (Trinity) 7520G, and I seem to be unable to rotate the screen.... I get "xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed" using xrandr --output HDMI-0 --rotate left - Radeon drivers and firmware-linux-nonfree is loaded, just rotation seems to be unsupported. Any hints where to look?
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1515 [14:43:16] <cm13g09> There's no obvious errors in any of the logs I'd usually check
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1517 [14:44:41] <diogenes_> cm13g09, afaik iio-sensor-proxy.service is responsible for rotation, check and see if it's running.
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1520 [14:47:07] <earend1> k thanks for pointing out DAC/MAC todo read once upon a liftime updated
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1534 [14:50:19] <earend1> cm13g09: did u need to do some tweaking to make your radeon work with the firmware on buster? the good 'old' apt install xorg openbox & startx fails for me without non-free drivers.. and with non-free software the system crashes cold
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1536 [14:50:46] <earend1> on debian 9 it worked nicely. with and without non-free firmware
1537 [14:50:52] <earend1> for me
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1543 [14:53:00] <earend1> the dbus dependency tatology
1544 [14:53:06] <earend1> tautology
1545 [14:53:22] <earend1> gute musik ist besser.
1546 [14:53:38] <cm13g09> earend1: I mean, I just installed non-free and it seems to "work" with no rotation
1547 [14:53:55] <cm13g09> Stretch worked fine with rotation
1548 [14:53:58] <cm13g09> which is the annoying bit
1549 [14:54:16] <earend1> yep. the dbus comments were r@trace
1550 [14:54:41] <cm13g09> I have considered installing the backports kernel as a test
1551 [14:54:51] <earend1> hm. can i use the debian 9 kernel with buster packages?
1552 [14:54:54] <earend1> ah
1553 [14:55:05] <earend1> look. how do we do that.
1554 [14:55:13] <earend1> im a noob. thanks in advance.
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1556 [14:55:39] <cm13g09> earend1: The general advice would be "don't use backports unless you know what you're doing"
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1558 [14:57:39] <earend1> how do i install an older kernel with buster. if possible. if you're not so sure, i appreciate your sincere attitude and eventual join in an adventorous researcxh
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1560 [14:57:57] <cm13g09> earend1: I don't think you easily can
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1562 [14:58:02] <earend1> k
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1566 [14:58:18] <BCMM> cm13g09: do you definitely have the right firmware loaded? have a look in dmesg and check that your driver is actually loading firmware
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1568 [14:59:48] <cm13g09> BCMM: "direct-loading firmware" appears a bunch of times
1569 [15:00:10] <BCMM> yup, that ought to be working then...
1570 [15:00:16] <cm13g09> Also, DRM reports "Found VCE firmware/feedback version 50.0.1 / 17"
1571 [15:00:22] <cm13g09> BCMM: Xorg itself works
1572 [15:00:26] <cm13g09> just not with rotation
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1575 [15:00:37] <cm13g09> If you try and rotate the screen it declares "nope"
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1578 [15:01:46] <earend1> eheh
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1604 [15:15:12] <Ojd_> hi, is there any way to add custom bash scripts to an ISO image so they run AFTER the ISO is installed, for example, in a VirtualBox machine?
1605 [15:15:32] <karlpinc> earend1: There is a kernel handbook at debian.org. It is mostly for kernel developers but there's not-necessarly-easy-to-find instructions on how to compile your own kernel. You could compile an old kernel, but that could also break stuff that needs a newer kernel.
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1609 [15:17:43] <karlpinc> earend1: You might also try diffing the kernel configs to see if there's something that's been turned off in the newer kernels. But before doing lots of work on anything I'd try to see if you can find out more about the problem.
1610 [15:18:10] <BCMM> Ojd_: when do you want it to run? when the newly-installed system is booted?
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1612 [15:20:19] <Ojd_> yes, two examples: 1- I wantto add a git repo, so the idea would be that right after installation, the script simple clone the repo.
1613 [15:21:14] <Ojd_> 2- I have a script that should run once to configure several aspects of the system. I can copy the script to the ISO, but I haven't found a way to run it "post-installation"
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1615 [15:21:33] <Ojd_> (if I tried the typical hooks I got errors)
1616 [15:22:04] <BCMM> Ojd_: create a package that installs a systemd unit perhaps?
1617 [15:23:24] <karlpinc> Ojd_: You've looked at the debian installation manual? (Seems worth checking....)
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1649 [15:42:22] <earend1> thanks karl
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1652 [15:43:08] <earend1> ooh. not yet but will do
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1655 [15:43:29] <earend1> handbook sounds friendly.
1656 [15:43:51] <ksk> !tell earend1 about handbook
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1666 [15:50:37] <cm13g09> BCMM: kernel from buster-backports works for xrandr
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1668 [15:51:13] <cm13g09> Which means that somewhere between 4.19 and 5.2 it broke
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1670 [15:51:19] <cm13g09> ....got fixed even
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1674 [15:53:43] <Ojd_> karlpinc: I was reading this replaced-url
1675 [15:54:49] <Ojd_> BCMM: that sound like a good idea, I would need to read how to crate packages but thanks
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1698 [16:07:03] <tw> How do I make xdg-open run a desktop file instead of view the contents?
1699 [16:08:11] <m92lk> I'm trying to use the built-in sort function to sort a dynamically allocated array but the program just reads in the first variable then terminates? replaced-url
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1702 [16:08:43] <m92lk> oops sorry
1703 [16:08:49] <m92lk> wrong channel
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1709 [16:10:35] <tw> m92lk: needs cin in your loop so you can actually read the names.
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1711 [16:13:32] <m92lk> tw: thanks, such an elementary mistake :(
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1728 [16:28:05] <ws2k3> how does ssh determine which ssh key to offer to a system when logging in?
1729 [16:28:17] <greycat> It sends every key it can find.
1730 [16:28:25] <greycat> The server says "this one, you can use this one".
1731 [16:28:32] <ws2k3> ur sure?
1732 [16:28:57] <ws2k3> greycat: cause i have i have an id_rsa.pub and a .pem file and i see it sends the pem file
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1735 [16:30:25] <ksk> ws2k3: use "ssh -v" (or more v) to see which keys are offered in wich order
1736 [16:30:28] <ratrace> ws2k3: pem is alphabetically first. rename it to xid_rsa.pub and observe ssh -v
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1739 [16:32:07] <ws2k3> ksk: ratrace it looks like it doesnt send my id_rsa.pub its not listed in the output
1740 [16:32:46] <ksk> eh, .pub indicates a publickey, you would rather authenticate using the private part of the key.
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1742 [16:33:18] <ws2k3> ksk: im not seeing id_rsa at all
1743 [16:33:29] <greycat> If you use -v, it should say something like debug1: Will attempt key: /home/wooledg/.ssh/id_rsa RSA SHA256:...
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1745 [16:33:57] <ws2k3> greycat: yes i did -v and it only shows my .pem file
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1747 [16:34:01] <greycat> you *do* have the id_rsa (private key) file that matches the .pub file, right?
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1749 [16:34:08] <ws2k3> yes
1750 [16:34:28] <ws2k3> id and id_rsa.pub are in my .ssh folder
1751 [16:34:37] <ws2k3> next to me .pem file and my config
1752 [16:34:47] <greycat> "id"?
1753 [16:35:15] <ws2k3> what do you mean greycat?
1754 [16:35:20] <greycat> Is the file named "id"?
1755 [16:35:23] <ws2k3> yes
1756 [16:35:27] <greycat> That's why it's not used. NEXT!
1757 [16:35:34] <ws2k3> id.rsa and id_rsa.pub
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1759 [16:35:42] <ws2k3> hmm what do you mean?
1760 [16:35:45] <greycat> *plonk*
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1762 [16:35:50] <ws2k3> cause ssh generated it by default this way ^^
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1764 [16:35:58] <ksk> ws2k3: cmon, you are part of this channel for like what, years? :o
1765 [16:36:07] <ksk> rename it id_rsa and have fun..
1766 [16:36:34] <ws2k3> my apologies. its id_rsa and id_rsa.pub.
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1769 [16:36:46] <ws2k3> ksk: like 15 years now
1770 [16:37:07] <ws2k3> and i know people like greycat are here already for a long long loong time :P
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1775 [16:37:17] <ksk> as the cat already plonked, and you are giving mixed signals, why not paste "ls .ssh" and ssh -v? :> (be aware of possible information leaks..)
1776 [16:37:25] <flipbits> afternoon all...
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1779 [16:37:48] <flipbits> having some issues with buster and nvidia, hoping someone might be able to shed soe light?
1780 [16:38:06] <ksk> flipbits: did you checkout the debian wiki article about nvidia gpus already?
1781 [16:38:14] <greycat> probably for the same reason it typed "ur sure"
1782 [16:38:31] <flipbits> yep, i have read and tried pretty much everything in it
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1784 [16:38:49] <flipbits> I have a GeForce 740 Nvidia card
1785 [16:38:56] <flipbits> runs fine with the nouveau drivers
1786 [16:39:22] <flipbits> nvidia-detect tells me the nvidia-driver package should work
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1788 [16:39:38] <flipbits> install this, no problems, but when I reboot, black screen :(
1789 [16:39:55] <flipbits> looks like the nvidia module is failing to load
1790 [16:40:02] <flipbits> secure boot disabled
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1792 [16:40:45] <flipbits> when in black screen and nouveau blacklisted, lshw shows the display as unclaimed, no driver associated with it
1793 [16:41:26] <jhutchins_wk> ws2k3: ssh has a -v option that will give you details of the handshake process. You can increase the detail with more v's -vvv
1794 [16:41:43] <ksk> jhutchins_wk: we already told him that like 3 times ;)
1795 [16:42:02] <flipbits> for what it's worth, I originally had a GeForce 1600Ti which wouldn't load at all, doesn't look like the nouveau drivers could manage it
1796 [16:42:09] <jelly> anything past a single -v is less than useful unless you know exactly what you're looking for
1797 [16:43:09] <jhutchins_wk> ksk: Yeah, I see that.
1798 [16:45:02] <ws2k3> jhutchins_wk: yes i know. but that does not mention the id_rsa or id_rsa.pub file at all
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1800 [16:46:38] <jhutchins_wk> ws2k3: I don't know what you've done to end up here, but you can back up the files in .ssh, generate a new key, put it on the remote with ssh-copy-id
1801 [16:47:07] <jhutchins_wk> If you've edited the ssh config files in /etc, revert those changes.
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1804 [16:50:07] <bitflips> flipbits: log file error(s)?
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1806 [16:50:50] <flipbits> log file - not sure what all the relevant bits are, but...
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1815 [16:53:30] <flipbits> e.g. nvidia: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel
1816 [16:53:45] <flipbits> nvidia-persistenced: Failed to query NVIDIA devices. Please ensure that the NVIDIA device files (/dev/nvidia*) exist, and that user 116 has read and write permis$
1817 [16:54:05] <flipbits> systemd-modules-load[395]: modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'nvidia_current': Exec format error
1818 [16:55:37] <peterandre> which folder does debian save sound recordings created with the sound recorder?
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1824 [16:56:18] <ksk> peterandre: not sure what "the sound recorder" is, but somehwere inside your home directory most likely - take a look at the manpage maybe?
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1827 [16:56:36] <peterandre> ksk, ok i will do that thanks
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1829 [16:57:12] <peterandre> oh yes how silly in home folder indeed stored in recordings
1830 [16:57:16] <peterandre> thanks for the tip!
1831 [16:58:15] <ksk> !next
1832 [16:58:15] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
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1840 [17:01:38] <netcrash> What can be causing increase in inode usage and after a while it get's solved, how to detect this ?
1841 [17:02:19] <ksk> netcrash: afaik not too easy - find is your friend, but if there are indeed "many" files, it can take ages to count
1842 [17:02:41] <ksk> not sure if you could some information about that via filesystem tools somehow..
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1851 [17:04:57] <ksk> "ls -l" also has a column for the number of hardlinks in a directory, if I remember correctly
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1853 [17:05:24] <greycat> It shows a hard link count for every file, including directories.
1854 [17:05:29] <ksk> seems to be the third field from the right - but the ls manpage is not too helpful about explaining the colums - or I dont get it ;)
1855 [17:05:58] <greycat> "after a while it gets solved" means the files are deleted after they're no longer in use, yes?
1856 [17:06:10] <greycat> so what exactly is the problem?
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1858 [17:06:37] <ratrace> netcrash: monitor df -i
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1864 [17:09:11] <aggelis> %c
1865 [17:09:12] <dselect> See, or S-E-E. If you're too lazy to spell it out, we're too lazy to help you.
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1874 [17:10:45] <netcrash> greycat: the problem is that I'm getting alerts of free inode usage "space" running out of.
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1876 [17:11:15] <greycat> OK, start with "df -i" or "df -i /something".
1877 [17:11:15] <ksk> netcrash: soo, your problem is some "alert giving application" you did not configure correctly? ;)
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1879 [17:11:48] <netcrash> zabbix is very alerty
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1882 [17:11:55] <greycat> Until you tell us what file system this is, what file system *type* it is, and the actual number of inodes available and in use, it's hard to give any advice.
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1887 [17:14:22] <netcrash> greycat: sorry
1888 [17:14:23] <netcrash> Filesystem Inodes IUsed IFree IUse% Mounted on
1889 [17:14:25] <netcrash> /dev/sda1 14057472 11226998 2830474 80% /
1890 [17:14:30] <jelly> !paste
1891 [17:14:31] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: replaced-url
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1893 [17:15:12] <greycat> that truly is a *huge* number of files
1894 [17:15:13] <jelly> netcrash: so you have 80% inodes used, and around 11M files and directories
1895 [17:15:18] <ratrace> 11M inodes, where on earth did you consume that! :)
1896 [17:15:37] <greycat> what does your computer do that opens 11 million files on the root file system?
1897 [17:15:38] <jelly> the alert is warranted, I'd say
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1899 [17:16:00] <netcrash> replaced-url
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1901 [17:16:13] <netcrash> it's a jenkins system
1902 [17:16:30] <ksk> one approach I used was some bash which uses find for every level of directories, and outputted you the number of files.
1903 [17:16:53] <ksk> as I said, it will of course take ages with that many inodes - depending on disk speed
1904 [17:17:45] <jelly> netcrash: a jenkins system that never deletes any builds or tests or test results?
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1906 [17:18:12] <netcrash> jelly: no idea on how jenkins behaves on tests and builds
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1909 [17:18:24] <jelly> do you have an idea of what jenkins does?
1910 [17:19:20] <jelly> (AFAIK all it does is builds and tests... it's a CI part of a CI/CD system)
1911 [17:19:26] <netcrash> jelly: I know what it does, used years ago
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1913 [17:20:18] <greycat> are you bulding something large enough to create millions of files during its build?
1914 [17:20:23] <netcrash> I'll ask the guy who uses jenkins on what he does
1915 [17:20:44] <netcrash> greycat: I'm going to ask the dev.
1916 [17:21:22] <netcrash> thank you all for the help
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1918 [17:21:30] <jelly> it's likely they never set up deleting any old stuff, retention "forever"
1919 [17:21:56] <greycat> 11:01 netcrash> What can be causing increase in inode usage and after a while it get's solved, how to detect this ?
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1921 [17:22:09] <jelly> oh, missed that
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1923 [17:22:33] <jelly> but if it gets increased from 78% to 80% and back...
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1926 [17:23:14] <greycat> More information would definitely help. He could set up a script to run "df -i" every 5 minutes and log it to a file. Or he could just manually run it once before jenkins starts, once while jenkins is building something, and once after jenkins is done.
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1952 [17:42:21] <netcrash> he wasn't deleting the old builds
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1965 [17:53:45] <netcrash> Will mariadb have something like timescaledb in it?
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1974 [18:02:31] <jelly> netcrash: that's probably a great question for #maria
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1981 [18:06:58] <jhutchins_wk> Good quote from the mailing lists: "Design a system any fool can use, and only a fool will want to use it."
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1986 [18:07:37] <jhutchins_wk> netcrash: What is timescaledb, where is it found, and what is it used for?
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2027 [18:36:31] <kreyren> Looking for new mirror for replaced-url
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2029 [18:37:15] <kreyren> found replaced-url
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2051 [18:46:00] <petn-randall> ,v fonts-opensymbol
2052 [18:46:01] <judd> Package: fonts-opensymbol on amd64 -- jessie: 2:102.6+LibO4.3.3-2+deb8u11; jessie-security: 2:102.6+LibO4.3.3-2+deb8u12; stretch: 2:102.7+LibO5.2.7-1+deb9u10; stretch-proposed-updates: 2:102.7+LibO5.2.7-1+deb9u11; stretch-security: 2:102.7+LibO5.2.7-1+deb9u11; buster: 2:102.10+LibO6.1.5-3+deb10u3; stretch-backports: 2:102.10+LibO6.1.5-3+deb10u4~bpo9+1; buster-proposed-updates:
2053 [18:46:02] <judd> 2:102.10+LibO6.1.5-3+deb10u4; buster-security: 2:102.10+LibO6.1.5-3+deb10u4; buster-backports: 2:102.11+LibO6.3.2-1~bpo10+1; bullseye: 2:102.11+LibO6.3.2-1; sid: 2:102.11+LibO6.3.2-1
2054 [18:46:45] <petn-randall> kreyren: Why are you downloading deb files by hand?
2055 [18:47:30] <kreyren> petn-randall, replaced-url
2056 [18:47:47] * kreyren is just updating mirror in current logic
2057 [18:47:53] <kreyren> or is there better way to get this font?
2058 [18:48:31] <kreyren> i guess by using replaced-url
2059 [18:48:53] <greycat> ahhh, fonts-opensymbol is part of libreoffice.
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2061 [18:49:18] <greycat> that's how a font package can have 4 security updates
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2081 [19:01:26] <SerajewelKS> does luks with an external header give exactly the same amount of disk space as the underlying device?
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2085 [19:02:50] <SerajewelKS> i have disks with /boot and / mirrored, and / is in LVM. considering adding a LUKS layer between the mirror and the LVM PV.
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2087 [19:03:08] <SerajewelKS> if i put the LUKS header on /boot then in theory i won't have to shrink the / volume?
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2105 [19:13:45] <sleezio> hi, trying to install dxvk...these instructions state that dxvk is in the 'main' repo for debian, but apt-get doesn't see it
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2109 [19:14:37] <diogenes_> v, dxvk
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2112 [19:14:59] <diogenes_> v. dxvk
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2114 [19:16:55] <sleezio> diogenes_, not sure what you mean by v. dxvk
2115 [19:17:47] <diogenes_> sleezio, the bot should have shown the available packages with that name but it seems to not wanting to listen to me.
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2119 [19:18:50] <diogenes_> sleezio, replaced-url
2120 [19:19:03] <diogenes_> it's for wine.
2121 [19:19:35] <sleezio> yes, but i see ti's for buster, i'm on stretch
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2123 [19:20:29] <diogenes_> sleezio, if you installe winehq then it should be available in winetricks.
2124 [19:20:47] <diogenes_> you need to add winehq repo in the sources.list.
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2127 [19:21:28] <diogenes_> sleezio, much easier is to use playonlinux and pick the latest wine version from there.
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2131 [19:23:04] <sleezio> i'll try, thanks
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2134 [19:24:49] <diogenes_> sleezio, but you need a vulkan capable card and driver.
2135 [19:25:13] <petn-randall> kreyren: Hardcoding the package version is not a good concept. It will change with time.
2136 [19:25:14] <sleezio> how can i tell if nvidia driver 390 is capable?
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2138 [19:25:17] <petn-randall> !apt mirror
2139 [19:25:25] <petn-randall> !buster mirror
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2141 [19:25:35] <petn-randall> dpkg: are you alive?
2142 [19:25:36] <dpkg> petn-randall: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface.
2143 [19:25:42] <kreyren> petn-randall, what do you recommend then? I'm unable to find other mirror
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2145 [19:25:58] <kreyren> to clarify: there a lots of mirrors but the font is different
2146 [19:26:37] <petn-randall> !buster sources.list
2147 [19:26:37] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Buster" has the lines: "deb replaced-url
2148 [19:26:40] <petn-randall> kreyren: ^^^
2149 [19:26:58] <petn-randall> kreyren: And you still should be using apt, and not downloading packages manually.
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2151 [19:27:06] <diogenes_> sleezio, if you use nvidia proprietary driver then you're ok, if nouvea then it doesn't support vulkan yet.
2152 [19:27:31] <kreyren> petn-randall, it's for usage in winetricks which is expected to work on non-debian too
2153 [19:27:35] <petn-randall> kreyren: If you need to download a package, there's `apt download` for that, which also takes care of verification.
2154 [19:27:37] <kreyren> so using apt is not an option for this usecase
2155 [19:28:11] <kreyren> but that is probably offtopic here
2156 [19:28:17] <petn-randall> kreyren: Well, you're not verifying the package in any way, and a compromised mirror might compromise your system that way.
2157 [19:28:19] <sleezio> i had dxvk running on xubuntu, just installed debian the other day, trying to get it back going for games...so i know the card can handle it, i *think* my driver on xubuntu was 4xx...i see debian prefered 390
2158 [19:29:08] <kreyren> petn-randall, it has checksum in a logic
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2163 [19:31:24] <petn-randall> kreyren: Ah, ok then.
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2170 [19:32:37] <nine09> i was gonna ask a question but i figured it out.
2171 [19:32:46] <nine09> however it kind of led to a new question.
2172 [19:32:47] <petn-randall> Glad we could help. :)
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2174 [19:32:57] <nine09> haha :)
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2177 [19:33:43] <nine09> usually when I run a command that requires root, i get the typical error "must be root, etc"; however when I tried to run usermod as a regular user it said the command didn't exist.
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2179 [19:33:53] <nine09> working as intended?
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2182 [19:35:16] <petn-randall> nine09: Yes, that's actually the default.
2183 [19:35:20] <diogenes_> nine09, yes, it won't find because of the path, if the program is in /usr/sbin then you need sudo.
2184 [19:36:04] <petn-randall> nine09: AS diogenes_ said, most tools requiring root are in /sbin/ or /usr/sbin/, both which aren't in a normal user's $PATH.
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2186 [19:36:26] <nine09> ah ok
2187 [19:36:35] <nine09> no sudo here, running debian
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2189 [19:37:08] <SerajewelKS> sudo is not installed by default
2190 [19:37:42] <greycat> you can add /usr/sbin and /sbin to your $PATH if you wish
2191 [19:38:02] <greycat> the commands that actually require root privileges will give you interesting error messages if you try to run them
2192 [19:38:22] <nine09> as long as they still prompt for elevation
2193 [19:38:28] <diogenes_> nine09, if during install you don't specify a root account, then it will install with udual sudo.
2194 [19:38:36] <diogenes_> usual*
2195 [19:38:41] <nine09> ah cool
2196 [19:38:49] <sleezio> diogenes_, i got it working without playonlinux, thanks for the help
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2198 [19:39:06] <diogenes_> sleezio, cool, you'ew welcome.
2199 [19:39:13] <diogenes_> you're*
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2205 [19:40:24] <B|ack0p> hi
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2207 [19:40:36] <B|ack0p> i just installed debian without graphics and no network
2208 [19:40:40] <B|ack0p> i am on commandline
2209 [19:40:47] <B|ack0p> but doesnt connected to internet
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2211 [19:40:57] <B|ack0p> i plugged ethernet but still no connection
2212 [19:41:04] <B|ack0p> i am on another machine at the moment
2213 [19:41:13] <B|ack0p> how can i get connection to debian command line?
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2215 [19:42:29] <petn-randall> B|ack0p: How did you set up the network connection?
2216 [19:42:47] <B|ack0p> petn-randall: my debian image was small netinst
2217 [19:42:55] <B|ack0p> it didnt install network driver
2218 [19:42:59] <B|ack0p> intel wifi link 5100
2219 [19:43:07] <B|ack0p> installed without desktop
2220 [19:43:08] <petn-randall> B|ack0p: If you didn't set up the network, it won't be there.
2221 [19:43:22] <B|ack0p> well i dont know how to set it
2222 [19:43:26] <petn-randall> B|ack0p: You can either use ifupdown, or network-manager for that. It won't happen automatically on a minimal install.
2223 [19:43:30] <petn-randall> !ifupdown
2224 [19:43:31] <dpkg> Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for documentation, "zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz" for example configurations. Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. replaced-url
2225 [19:43:33] <B|ack0p> i am logged in tty1 now
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2227 [19:43:46] <petn-randall> B|ack0p: ^^^ This should get you started.
2228 [19:43:51] <tw> might need nonfree blob with that adapter.
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2230 [19:44:06] <petn-randall> B|ack0p: Oh, wifi I'd rather use network-manager for that.
2231 [19:44:11] <B|ack0p> i thought i can connect from ethernet and set wifi later
2232 [19:44:18] <petn-randall> And yes, you'll need non-free firmware for it to work.
2233 [19:44:27] <B|ack0p> but when i plug ethernet cable it doesnt connect anything
2234 [19:44:42] <diogenes_> ethernet should work automatically but make sure /etc/resolv.conf is polulated.
2235 [19:44:50] <petn-randall> B|ack0p: Right. But you asked for wifi first. Ethernet would be the way to go for now.
2236 [19:45:02] <tw> B|ack0p: Honestly, it's probably faster to reinstall with a network cable plugged in because you didn't install a *whole* lot of packages due to network being unavailable.
2237 [19:45:09] <B|ack0p> i tried to install irssi on there but didnt happen
2238 [19:45:31] <B|ack0p> tw: so while installing debian should i connect to ethernet?
2239 [19:45:42] <tw> If you're installing from netinst, yes.
2240 [19:45:53] <B|ack0p> hmm
2241 [19:45:56] <B|ack0p> ok let me try
2242 [19:46:02] <petn-randall> B|ack0p: You can either use the Debian images, or the internet. If you use the network installer, you'll need network, yes.
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2244 [19:46:40] <B|ack0p> well
2245 [19:46:46] <B|ack0p> there were a lot of dvd images
2246 [19:46:49] <B|ack0p> 3?
2247 [19:47:00] <B|ack0p> it is not possible to download all of them in short time
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2249 [19:47:12] <B|ack0p> does it take long installing if i connect to internet?
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2251 [19:47:42] <nine09> if you can use bittorrent it'll be fast
2252 [19:48:35] <B|ack0p> well i will connect to internet while installing
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2254 [19:49:21] <B|ack0p> what can i do if i install it without desktop?
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2258 [19:51:00] <petn-randall> B|ack0p: If you can connect your machine to the internet, using the network installer and letting that download just the packages you need is the most efficient way.
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2261 [19:51:17] <tw> B|ack0p: server stuff, usually. If you have a monitor and keyboard plugged in, I'd recommend some kind of graphical interface, especially if this is your first experience with linux.
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2263 [19:52:17] <lnslbrty> Hey all, I have a serious problem regarding the upgrade to debian10. Something went horribly wrong and I do not know how to fix that.
2264 [19:52:17] <lnslbrty> I ran apt (update|upgrade|dist-upgrade) successfully. After the dist-upgrade succeeded, apt and aptitude started to show me that there are 1344 packages updateable but it can't update the packages since they are broken...
2265 [19:52:17] <lnslbrty> This should not happen, right? Any hints how to solve this issue?
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2268 [19:52:25] <B|ack0p> tw: not first time but i dont have enough knowledge
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2270 [19:52:35] <B|ack0p> i have another machine installed ubuntu
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2272 [19:53:12] <Eightynine> I wanted to try Manjaro KDE, wrote ISO without issues but when I started it wasn't responding to mouse clicks. I thought it's a bug in Manjaro or maybe despite no error messages there were issues in ISO/flash drive. Then I started my installed system which is Debian with Gnome and KDE and I noticed that KDE is not responding too. How can I find what's wrong?
2273 [19:53:14] <nine09> just fulscreen the terminal? So it's like working w/o GUI
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2275 [19:53:30] <B|ack0p> lol yes
2276 [19:53:41] <petn-randall> !bat
2277 [19:53:42] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
2278 [19:53:50] <petn-randall> lnslbrty: Can you provide all the info above in a single paste? ^^^
2279 [19:54:02] <lnslbrty> petn-randall: will do
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2287 [19:57:36] <lnslbrty> petn-randall: replaced-url
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2290 [19:59:41] <Guest43662> pkexec its such a pain
2291 [19:59:52] <Guest43662> pkexec pcmanfm gives cannot open display
2292 [20:01:09] <petn-randall> lnslbrty: Check the factoid again, seems like you missed most parts.
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2295 [20:02:03] <petn-randall> lnslbrty: Also, that's expected with `apt upgrade`, since it doesn't install or remove any packages. That's why you need to run `apt dist-upgrade`, which is the interesting command.
2296 [20:02:05] <lnslbrty> petn-randall: apt-cache for every packet will generate a lot of output
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2299 [20:02:50] <petn-randall> lnslbrty: I'd rather see the output of `apt dist-upgrade`, and the `apt-cache policy $foo` of those packages it complains about (which should only be a few).
2300 [20:03:05] <petn-randall> Don't forget `apt-cache policy` (without further parameters), too.
2301 [20:03:24] <OS-57466> !10.11.1.133
2302 [20:03:24] <dpkg> 10.11
2303 [20:04:06] <petn-randall> OS-57466: Do you need help?
2304 [20:06:19] <OS-57466> yep, just an hint for the machine 10.11.1.133
2305 [20:06:22] <Guest43662> any alternative to gcolor2 ?
2306 [20:06:23] <diogenes_> Guest43662, pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY /usr/bin/pcmanfm
2307 [20:06:55] <petn-randall> OS-57466: I think you're lost. This is a Debian support channel.
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2309 [20:07:09] <petn-randall> OS-57466: Maybe look on your local network?
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2312 [20:08:18] <Guest43662> diogenes_, this work but i also have to put in openbox menu
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2315 [20:09:02] <diogenes_> Guest43662, ypu can write your own policy for any app so it will open with plexec aooname.
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2318 [20:09:09] <diogenes_> pkexec*
2319 [20:11:36] <lnslbrty> petn-randall: replaced-url
2320 [20:12:02] <lnslbrty> petn-randall: libapt-pkg5.0 causes the issue O_o
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2342 [20:21:28] <kale> do you guys know of a description of how to store ripped CD's. I'm thinking directory structure, coverart etc. in a way that media players pick up the art?
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2345 [20:22:40] <jhutchins_wk> Eightynine: It could be the mouse. Is the console responsive?
2346 [20:22:54] <EmleyMoor> kale: never seen it formally written down, but rippers like abcde do a good structure
2347 [20:22:58] <jhutchins_wk> Eightynine: Keyboard shortcuts?
2348 [20:23:01] <kale> is there some well defined way to do this or is it different from player to player?
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2350 [20:23:48] <nexgen> hello
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2352 [20:24:23] <greycat> kale: most of them don't care how the files are laid out -- they just suck all the metadata (id3 tags, etc.) out of the files and store it in a database
2353 [20:24:37] <Guest43662> you guys should bring back gcolor2 and leafpad
2354 [20:24:54] <kale> greycat: what about coverart, do they just pick up .jpg and.pngs found?
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2357 [20:25:46] <greycat> If you buy an MP3 from an actual copyright holder, the MP3 file usually has some sort of .jpg embedded inside it.
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2359 [20:26:07] <kale> greycat: hmm... guess lame could do that too
2360 [20:26:12] <greycat> I've never attempted to make one like that myself, though I guess it's possible somehow.
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2364 [20:26:54] <kale> hmm nothing in lame manpage
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2369 [20:28:11] <kale> oh "lame --ti" would do it, im gonna test this :-)
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2371 [20:28:49] <kale> not in manpage though
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2373 [20:30:08] <greycat> I would assume you don't use lame for this. Some googling suggests ffmpeg could do it, possibly.
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2378 [20:32:13] <Eightynine> Yes, console is working but with weird artifacts.
2379 [20:32:37] <kale> and there are perl libs for musicbrainz, looks like i only have to make a small tweak to my old cd ripper script.
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2381 [20:32:50] <Eightynine> No, interface doesn't respond at all until I restart SDDM and login again.
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2399 [20:49:01] <Guest43662> diogenes_, wow you can create gksudo this way
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2403 [20:50:30] <petn-randall> lnslbrty: You're still missing `apt-cache policy`.
2404 [20:50:57] <humpled> Guest43662: pkexec has replaced gksudo
2405 [20:50:58] <lnslbrty> petn-randall: got it solved, thx for your help <3
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2408 [20:51:57] <lnslbrty> petn-randall: apt-cache is pretty sweet
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2411 [20:53:54] <Guest43662> humpled, i know but it's a lot bugged
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2422 [20:59:06] <petn-randall> lnslbrty: What was the issue?
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2431 [21:01:28] <Zathras> anyone aware of any plans (is there is wiki/webpage where this administrated?) to backport Redmine to Buster?
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2434 [21:02:13] <nkuttler> ,v redmine
2435 [21:02:15] <judd> Package: redmine on amd64 -- stretch: 3.3.1-4+deb9u2; stretch-security: 3.3.1-4+deb9u2; bullseye: 4.0.4-3; sid: 4.0.4-3
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2437 [21:02:40] <greycat> ,info redmine --release bullseye
2438 [21:02:41] <judd> Package redmine (web, optional) in bullseye/amd64: flexible project management web application. Version: 4.0.4-3; Size: 1136.2k; Installed: 8924k; Homepage: replaced-url
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2440 [21:02:57] <nkuttler> ,checkbackport redmine
2441 [21:02:58] <judd> Backporting package redmine in sid→buster/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: debhelper-compat (= 12), ruby-rouge (>= 3.7.0).
2442 [21:03:26] <Zathras> ah. outch
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2444 [21:03:55] <Zathras> thanks. Pitty
2445 [21:04:01] <nkuttler> debphelper shouldn't be a too big problem i guess, but no idea about ruby
2446 [21:04:30] <Zathras> most backported ruby packages atm seem to be handled by a single person
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2448 [21:04:47] <jhutchins_wk> .
2449 [21:05:02] <nkuttler> fwiw, if ruby has its own packaging system, i would just see if you can install ruby with the packaged ruby version..
2450 [21:05:11] <nkuttler> install redmine
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2453 [21:05:41] <Zathras> true. Personally I hate alternative package systems. Makes systems messy
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2455 [21:06:04] <nkuttler> depends on your needs i guess
2456 [21:06:17] <nkuttler> i don't mind installing stuff from other sources that is user space only
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2458 [21:06:35] <nkuttler> (and doesn't affect users who don't use it)
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2462 [21:07:19] <Zathras> ah. Informative: replaced-url
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2466 [21:07:49] <Zathras> Pirate Praveen was/is the person I referred to
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2492 [21:19:05] <slee> hi again, when i go to settings > mouse > devices: i choose my mouse from the drop down menu, then hit close, but when i go back to same setting, it has my mouse back at MosArt M32 00500 Usb K+M Mouse....why isn't it remembering my mouse device?
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2497 [21:20:12] <slee> nm. i think i got it
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2543 [21:56:27] <B|ack0p> hi
2544 [21:56:33] <B|ack0p> just installed debian with graphics
2545 [21:56:49] <B|ack0p> how can i be sure if wifi driver is installed?
2546 [21:57:01] <B|ack0p> probably not installed as it is non-free driver
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2548 [21:57:10] <B|ack0p> i am connected via ethernet cable now
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2555 [21:57:41] <jhutchins_wk> B|ack0p: THere's probably a network icon in your taskbar.
2556 [21:57:53] <B|ack0p> when i check settings Network there is no wifi
2557 [21:57:56] <somiaj> B|ack0p: what wifi chipset do you have?
2558 [21:57:56] <B|ack0p> only wired
2559 [21:58:03] <B|ack0p> intel wifi link 5100
2560 [21:58:10] <somiaj> B|ack0p: the wifi driver is probablay installed, but you most likely need the non-free firmware
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2562 [21:58:18] <B|ack0p> probably
2563 [21:58:23] <jhutchins_wk> B|ack0p: That makes sense if you haven't set it up yet.
2564 [21:58:25] <B|ack0p> so how can i install non free?
2565 [21:58:36] <somiaj> B|ack0p: 'dmesg | grep -i firmware' will let you know of errors loading firmware, you most likely need the firmware-iwlwifi package from non-free for that intel card
2566 [21:58:38] <jhutchins_wk> Intell doesn't usually need firmware.
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2568 [21:58:51] <somiaj> their wifi almost always does
2569 [21:59:04] <jhutchins_wk> Mine hasn't. ymmv
2570 [21:59:04] <greycat> their video chipsets typically do as well, for modesetting
2571 [21:59:15] <greycat> at least the relatively recent ones
2572 [21:59:21] <B|ack0p> ~$ dmesg | grep -i firmwaredmesg: read kernel buffer failed: Operation not permitted
2573 [21:59:31] <greycat> as root.
2574 [21:59:35] <B|ack0p> ok
2575 [21:59:40] <somiaj> I think there are various (at least in the US) FCC laws around wifi requing corps like intel to keep some pieces closed, hence that is what the firmware is for.
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2577 [21:59:56] <B|ack0p> user is not sudoer
2578 [22:00:00] <jhutchins_wk> B|ack0p: Most changes that will affect the whole system/all users will be done as root.
2579 [22:00:05] <greycat> use su, then
2580 [22:00:10] <somiaj> mostly around power and frequency settings
2581 [22:00:15] <jhutchins_wk> su -
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2585 [22:00:55] <somiaj> I think it is annoying dmesg dosn't work as a normal user anymore, but I guess there are security concerns by a normal user being able to snoop hardware/drivers/kernel info
2586 [22:01:04] <B|ack0p> ok this is dmesg: replaced-url
2587 [22:01:45] <somiaj> B|ack0p: yea, firware for the iwlwifi driver is nto present, install firmware-iwlwifi from non-free for that card
2588 [22:01:58] <B|ack0p> how to install?
2589 [22:02:17] <jhutchins_wk> !iwlwifi
2590 [22:02:18] <dpkg> The iwlwifi Linux kernel driver supports several Intel 802.11n (WiFi Link, Wireless-N, Advanced-N, Ultimate-N) and 802.11ac adapters. Firmware is required, ask me about <non-free sources> and install the firmware-iwlwifi package to provide. Supported devices and troubleshooting hints are listed at replaced-url
2591 [22:02:24] <somiaj> !non-free
2592 [22:02:24] <dpkg> [non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me about <non-free list>.
2593 [22:02:32] <somiaj> !non-free sources
2594 [22:02:32] <dpkg> Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then «apt-get update». But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses. See also <sources.list>.
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2596 [22:02:46] <somiaj> B|ack0p: ^^ add non-free sources, then 'apt install firmware-iwlwifi'
2597 [22:02:49] <somiaj> (well apt update first too)
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2599 [22:03:47] <jhutchins_wk> somiaj: What's the New User Guide?
2600 [22:03:55] <jhutchins_wk> s/what/where
2601 [22:04:23] <Ankman> B|ack0p: another way is to call /sbin/ifconfig -a and see if a WIFI device shows up
2602 [22:04:41] <somiaj> new user guide? Not ringing a bell.
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2604 [22:04:57] <somiaj> !debian handbook
2605 [22:04:57] <dpkg> The Debian Administrator's Handbook is at replaced-url
2606 [22:05:01] <somiaj> jhutchins_wk: ^^ that?
2607 [22:05:02] <Ankman> if it shows up without "-a" it's already initilized
2608 [22:05:11] <greycat> still says Jessie in the title :-/
2609 [22:05:27] <somiaj> Ankman: 'ip a' is probably better these days
2610 [22:05:44] <somiaj> greycat: yea, handbook is good, but it needs updated.
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2612 [22:05:57] <somiaj> it is still mostly relvent, only a few thinsg that probably need updated.
2613 [22:06:16] <Ankman> somiaj: yes, but i not dealt much with "ip" and am more familiar with ifconfig :-)
2614 [22:06:45] <B|ack0p> how to insert this? # modprobe -r iwlwifi ; modprobe iwlwifi
2615 [22:06:46] <somiaj> Ankman: yup, just pointing out, as we slowly move away from the depericated tools..
2616 [22:06:52] <Ankman> :-)
2617 [22:07:00] <somiaj> B|ack0p: that works, or you can reboot if you like the windows delima
2618 [22:07:10] <B|ack0p> let me reboot then
2619 [22:07:26] <Ankman> there should be no reboot necessary...
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2621 [22:08:00] <Ankman> it's linux not a freaking windows... ;-)
2622 [22:08:14] <somiaj> nope, B|ack0p modeprobe command would have worked, but with many users suggestion a reboot is far easier. "Have you turend it off and back on again?"
2623 [22:08:15] <B|ack0p> how will i find out if non free firmware installed properly?
2624 [22:08:18] <jhutchins_wk> Ankman: How, then, do you go about loading firmware?
2625 [22:08:20] <annadane> well, for firmware installation you probably should reboot
2626 [22:08:29] <B|ack0p> somiaj it gave error
2627 [22:08:35] <somiaj> jhutchins_wk: removing the module, reloading it should work
2628 [22:08:50] <Ankman> somiaj: i see you like the series The IT Crowd :-) so do i
2629 [22:08:50] <somiaj> B|ack0p: what error? that 'dmesg | grep -i firmware' should let you know if it was loaded or not
2630 [22:08:55] <B|ack0p> bash: modprobe: command not found
2631 [22:09:04] <Ankman> B|ack0p: be root
2632 [22:09:08] <B|ack0p> i am root
2633 [22:09:12] <annadane> it won't be loaded if the user didn't reboot
2634 [22:09:14] <Ankman> wow!
2635 [22:09:16] <somiaj> !su buster
2636 [22:09:24] <annadane> what error does it give you specifically, post your output
2637 [22:09:27] <annadane> paste.debian.net
2638 [22:09:27] <somiaj> B|ack0p: you need to use 'su -' not 'su' when becoming root to get a full enviroment.
2639 [22:09:32] <greycat> !buster su
2640 [22:09:32] <dpkg> To start an interactive session with <su>, you should use "su -l" or "su -"; this has always been the case, but is now enforced in Debian 10 'buster', where the PATH is no longer reset in non-interactive sessions. Alternatively, you can ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes in /etc/login.defs. See replaced-url
2641 [22:09:39] <B|ack0p> i am already su
2642 [22:09:41] <B|ack0p> i am root
2643 [22:09:44] <somiaj> greycat: my poor dyslixia
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2645 [22:09:49] <greycat> Gods, people besmirching perfectly good factoids.
2646 [22:09:51] <B|ack0p> ok
2647 [22:09:52] <annadane> oh, modprobe. i can't read, sorry
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2649 [22:10:01] <somiaj> B|ack0p: notice the subtle differnce between using 'su -' and 'su'
2650 [22:10:05] <greycat> The fucking red hat culture is going to win, because there are so damned *many* of them.
2651 [22:10:20] <Ankman> can't believe modprobe is not available as root. that would f**k up the whole system
2652 [22:10:23] <B|ack0p> ok done now
2653 [22:10:24] <B|ack0p> no error
2654 [22:10:42] <somiaj> Ankman: its because of 'su' vs 'su -', and having a full root enviorment (PATH variable)
2655 [22:10:43] <jhutchins_wk> B|ack0p: Now you will need to configure the connection.
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2657 [22:11:00] <greycat> Do I even want to *bother*? :( :(
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2660 [22:11:30] <Ankman> B|ack0p: see if "ip a" lists the device
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2664 [22:13:01] <Ankman> if you have the NetworkManager installed you should see an icon on your desktop. click it and selct to connect. find your WIFI and click it. provide you password and you should be online
2665 [22:13:01] <B|ack0p62> back on wifi !
2666 [22:13:03] <B|ack0p62> thx a lot
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2668 [22:13:10] <Ankman> nice to hear
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2670 [22:13:23] <B|ack0p62> in dmesg i saw Broadcom Bluetooth also needed firmware i guess
2671 [22:14:00] <greycat> generally it's a good idea to supply whatever firmware files it wants, just in case you ever use that device in the future
2672 [22:14:04] <Ankman> most likely
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2682 [22:16:10] <B|ack0p62> this is my full dmesg: replaced-url
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2685 [22:18:16] <B|ack0p62> what about adding non-free all of the items in sources.list?
2686 [22:18:26] <greycat> add contrib, too
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2688 [22:18:28] <B|ack0p62> replaced-url
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2690 [22:19:00] <Zathras> I am trying to resolve an issue with 'dehydrated'. Do not get errors/loginfo, so how do you get a similar extensive output like this? replaced-url
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2692 [22:19:10] <somiaj> B|ack0p62: line 11 is a repeate of lines 1 and 2, remove line 11, and replace 'main' with 'main contrib non-free' on all the sources there.
2693 [22:19:19] <greycat> why do you not get errors/loginfo?
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2695 [22:19:30] <greycat> Mine is set up to log to a file, I believe...
2696 [22:19:32] <somiaj> B|ack0p62: also why did you use stretch and not buster, you may have the stretch firmware, and should update to the version in buster.
2697 [22:19:44] <B|ack0p62> hmmm
2698 [22:19:52] <B|ack0p62> i pasted what is written in the link
2699 [22:19:58] <B|ack0p62> can i change now?
2700 [22:19:59] <Zathras> greycat, no idea how to do that. The original does not support logging afaik
2701 [22:20:13] <greycat> 6 23 * * * root dehydrated -c >> /var/log/dehydrated 2>&1
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2703 [22:20:33] <Zathras> and I did not see anything in messages or syslog
2704 [22:20:52] <greycat> Check root's mail, then, if you are using crontab to run it.
2705 [22:20:52] <Zathras> I am currently testing from commandline. not yet in cron
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2707 [22:21:24] <somiaj> B|ack0p62: yes, I would do the changes I suggested to your sources.list, remove line 11, replace 'main' with 'main contrib non-free'
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2709 [22:21:48] <B|ack0p62> somiaj thx i will do that
2710 [22:23:43] <B|ack0p62> connection is very slow :S
2711 [22:24:59] <Zathras> I get the same output: names of the config files being parsed and that is about it
2712 [22:25:31] <Zathras> The output in the link I gave is way much more verbose
2713 [22:25:45] <B|ack0p62> i am having keyboard and mouse lags
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2715 [22:25:57] <B|ack0p62> is it because of gnome or what?
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2719 [22:29:02] <somiaj> That seems odd, I would start by running 'top'. Is some process eating up all your resources?
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2721 [22:29:50] <Zathras> wireless/bt keyboard/mouse and running out of battery?
2722 [22:31:45] <B|ack0p62> web content
2723 [22:31:48] <Zathras> my issue with dehydrated is that I cannot revoke or renew certs so it seems. However I do not get errors
2724 [22:31:49] <B|ack0p62> gnome shell
2725 [22:31:53] <B|ack0p62> pulseaudio
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2727 [22:32:13] <B|ack0p62> gnome shell number 1
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2729 [22:33:35] <B|ack0p62> i installed every desktops and i can see everything installed 3 times :p
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2731 [22:33:40] <jhutchins_wk> B|ack0p62: Don't tell us, figure it out. What's using resources? Is it using a lot? Is the CPU load high? Is the amount of swap varying?
2732 [22:34:11] <B|ack0p62> well i can say it is running more heavy than ubuntu..
2733 [22:34:24] <somiaj> io traffice can also cause lots of lags if things are waiting for the io bus, system sometimes comes to a halt or lags.
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2735 [22:35:08] <B|ack0p62> i will test other desktops
2736 [22:35:09] <B|ack0p62> bbl
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2740 [22:36:08] <jhutchins_wk> Really more suited to Ubuntu. Ubuntu is proof of what happens when you do too much for the user and don't tell them or make them learn anything.
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2743 [22:37:25] <somiaj> I almost wonder if it is a gpu missing firmware for full kms/compostor support.
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2745 [22:37:37] <somiaj> was gonna suggest checking graphics driver next
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2748 [22:39:01] <jhutchins_wk> somiaj: If the display works, normal usage shouldn't lag because of that. That would affect things like games and movies.
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2752 [22:39:36] <somiaj> jhutchins_wk: one would think, but gnome-shell uses a compositor, which does often use some sort of gpu acceleration.
2753 [22:39:41] <jhutchins_wk> somiaj: With graphics drivers, you usually either get the blinking cursor, VESA resolution, or it works.
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2755 [22:39:56] <somiaj> kde plasma is another, it will lag if you don't have the kms driver loaded propertly.
2756 [22:40:03] <somiaj> xfce/lxde/mate, these won't matter
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2759 [22:40:28] <B|ack0p> every desktop runs faster except gnome
2760 [22:40:39] <B|ack0p> even gnome classic a bit laggy comparing others
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2762 [22:40:51] <somiaj> B|ack0p: what graphics card do you have. You may not have the firmware/driver setup for full accelration support.
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2764 [22:40:55] <jhutchins_wk> Oh, yeh, well if you have cube switching and JIGGLY WINDOWS!!! it will.
2765 [22:41:03] <B|ack0p> somiaj: ah might be. it is intel also
2766 [22:41:09] <B|ack0p> i have old Thinkpad x61s
2767 [22:41:12] <B|ack0p> with L7500 cpu
2768 [22:41:17] <B|ack0p> intel gpu x3100 something
2769 [22:41:26] <somiaj> greycat mentioned you might need firmware for some intel cards, I'm not that familar with them, so unsure what package would be useful.
2770 [22:41:51] <towo`> skylake and later needs firmware
2771 [22:42:17] <B|ack0p> is there any driver can i use for intel gpu?
2772 [22:42:18] <somiaj> I see some firmware for various intel devices in firmware-misc-nonfree package.
2773 [22:42:30] <B|ack0p> somiaj: how to install?
2774 [22:42:39] <towo`> x1300 is not skylake or later
2775 [22:42:46] <greycat> usually I look at the actual firmware filenames that dmesg says it's missing, then use judd or packages.debian.org to find out what pkg has those files
2776 [22:42:47] <jhutchins_wk> B|ack0p: More than one depending on what chipset.
2777 [22:42:48] <B|ack0p> x3100 probably
2778 [22:42:51] <towo`> this gpu does not need firmware
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2780 [22:43:04] <somiaj> B|ack0p: maybe the laptop is just too old for some of these modern desktops, use xfce or lxde would be my sugestion.
2781 [22:43:17] <greycat> yeah, if it's an "older" intel, it won't need firmware
2782 [22:43:20] <B|ack0p> here is the specs of my laptop: replaced-url
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2784 [22:43:45] <B|ack0p> somiaj: well everybody told same for my Thinkpad T60 but this is newer than it :/
2785 [22:44:00] <B|ack0p> linux suppose to support old devices better than windows
2786 [22:44:08] <towo`> it does
2787 [22:44:23] <B|ack0p> but i had many problems with my 2006 model thinkpad and now this
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2789 [22:44:29] <towo`> but then you have to use moderate desktops, not heavywight ones
2790 [22:44:44] <B|ack0p> i am on gnome classic now
2791 [22:44:48] <somiaj> It does, you aren't forced to use the biggest/flashist destkops. But gnome-shell and kde-plasma are very resource intensive, sometimes even more so than windows, so using another desktop would be my suggestion.
2792 [22:45:11] <somiaj> B|ack0p: many like mate, it is a fork of the old gnome2 for those who like gnome.
2793 [22:45:12] <towo`> B|ack0p, gnome is heavywight
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2795 [22:45:20] <towo`> even the classic
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2797 [22:45:21] <somiaj> cinnimon is also a bit ligher one.
2798 [22:45:22] <B|ack0p> just i couldnt solve this keyboard and mouse lag
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2802 [22:45:46] <mutante> another vote for MATE desktop, you get gnome2 continued
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2804 [22:47:07] <Unit193> Cinnamon is considered lightweight..?
2805 [22:47:30] <towo`> no
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2808 [22:48:01] <somiaj> Unit193: ligher than gnome-shell/kde-plasma I think (I don't use any desktop so only go off of info I have read)
2809 [22:48:02] <kale> black/flux-box or what about twm :-)
2810 [22:48:10] <somiaj> but heavier than mate/xfce/lxde
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2813 [22:48:17] <B|ack0p> another question how can i disable splash/background image of grub menu to default blue one?
2814 [22:48:17] <Ankman> xfce
2815 [22:48:21] <towo`> and btw, Intel 965GM is crap
2816 [22:48:32] <B|ack0p> towo`: is it my chipset?
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2819 [22:48:35] <somiaj> kale: fvwm for life here )"
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2821 [22:48:38] <somiaj> (:
2822 [22:48:52] <towo`> B|ack0p, yes, it's your grapics device
2823 [22:49:00] <B|ack0p> yea it is old
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2826 [22:49:44] <somiaj> B|ack0p: you will have a much better experience using an older desktop (or just a light wight wm).
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2829 [22:50:07] <B|ack0p> somiaj: older with new distro you mean or old distro with old desktop?
2830 [22:50:11] <Ankman> B|ack0p: changing is just of cosmetic nature. why would you want to do this?
2831 [22:50:13] <B|ack0p> i am currently on gnome classic
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2833 [22:50:36] <B|ack0p> Ankman: i like grub screen without background it looks more cool with blue
2834 [22:50:42] <B|ack0p> changing what?
2835 [22:50:50] <B|ack0p> i m confused sorry
2836 [22:50:57] <somiaj> B|ack0p: new distro, with older desktop, in linux you have a lot of choice, but sometimes on older hardware you have to choose the less flashy graphical enviorments.
2837 [22:51:14] <B|ack0p> somiaj: is gnome classic good?
2838 [22:51:17] <B|ack0p> it is fine now
2839 [22:51:20] <B|ack0p> not much lag i face
2840 [22:51:47] <somiaj> if it works for you
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2842 [22:51:58] <B|ack0p> i may give another try to mate later
2843 [22:52:02] <somiaj> use what you like, but if you find it laggy it could be due to the age of your hardware.
2844 [22:52:10] <aruiz> is there a command to get the platform triad? say x86_64-linux-gnu?
2845 [22:52:10] <B|ack0p> maybe
2846 [22:52:19] <somiaj> aruiz: uname -a should list the kernel
2847 [22:52:26] <kale> is enlightenment still at play? or did they stall between 16 and e17?
2848 [22:52:41] <somiaj> aruiz: dpkg --print-architecture will list the default arcetcure of your userland
2849 [22:52:48] <B|ack0p> how can i disable grub background?
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2851 [22:53:02] <somiaj> kale: its still out there, though they have stalled a bit
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2853 [22:53:38] <somiaj> ,v e17
2854 [22:53:39] <judd> Package: e17 on amd64 -- jessie: 0.17.6-1; stretch: 0.17.6-1.1+b1; bullseye: 0.22.4-2; buster: 0.22.4-2; sid: 0.22.4-2
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2856 [22:53:53] <somiaj> kale: seems they have been with e17 since at least jessie
2857 [22:54:00] <kale> heard one of the dev ran with software rendering by mistake, but didn't notice 'cause e17 was so fast
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2861 [22:54:28] <jhutchins_wk> I think it was yesterday I posted a link to a "12 best linux desktops" article, mainly to point out that there are enough different choices to make a 12 best list.
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2864 [22:55:12] <kale> danish lug "SSLUG" had a 24 desktop environments christmas calender one year...
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2866 [22:56:09] <jhutchins_wk> aruiz: uname -a will probably give you what you need too.
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2915 [23:24:27] <gettype> hi
2916 [23:24:47] <gettype> Why i cant get to variable like this: echo '1"2"3"4"' | x="$(cut -d '"' -f 3)" | echo $
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2919 [23:26:35] <fearnothing> hey
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2921 [23:27:18] <fearnothing> I have a question concerning packages built from source: if I want to install a later version, is there anything particular I need to do to be sure it will not conflict with the existing version?
2922 [23:27:25] <fearnothing> do I need to completely remove the old one first?
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2925 [23:27:55] <Habbie> fearnothing, if the package has the same name, dpkg will understand that it replaces what you had
2926 [23:28:24] <mutante> just make sure the version number is higher
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2928 [23:29:21] <Habbie> that does simplify a lot of things
2929 [23:29:30] <Habbie> but it's not a requirement for avoiding conflicts between the two versions
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2932 [23:30:32] <fearnothing> thanks
2933 [23:30:47] <fearnothing> sadly debian's repos are a bit behind the version I need :)
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2936 [23:32:03] <dudebr> good night, i am unable to boot from my usb now and have a broken apt, i wonder if is there a way to fix the apt
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2951 [23:40:12] <dudebr> replaced-url
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2959 [23:43:45] <dudebr> i tryed a fresh installation but the lap has a somewhat troubled bios the refuses to boot from my pendrive
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2961 [23:44:38] <OerHeks> run update first, fresh lists
2962 [23:44:39] <dudebr> if i only could fix the apt somehow
2963 [23:45:26] <dudebr> OerHeks i runned update first
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2984 [23:54:28] <dudebr> looks like a boostrap trick reintall the installer
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