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18 [00:09:55] <karlpinc> DebianLoser: The USB you used for install will probably work. (It all depends on how you made it. There are some on-line instructions that I've heard only sorta work.) I'd try it first.
19 [00:10:32] <DebianLoser> karlpinc: Thank you. Turned out it was empty, after all, am now installing the ISO you recommended to it.
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21 [00:11:15] <krup> hi there, i was wondering if there is any info about how debian plans to address replaced-url
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24 [00:11:30] <karlpinc> DebianLoser: You're doing better than me. I can't seem to find that bulk pack of usb sticks I bought 6 months ago.
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28 [00:11:35] <krup> i wasn't able to find anything in the bug tracker, but i may not be looking in the correct place
29 [00:11:53] <DebianLoser> karlpinc: Lol!
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32 [00:12:41] <karlpinc> krup: You want to see the changelog file in the php package. Somewhere in /usr/share/doc/php...
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34 [00:13:00] <karlpinc> krup: That will tell you if it has been addressed.
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36 [00:13:18] <karlpinc> krup: See also packages.debian.org
37 [00:14:07] <karlpinc> krup: I swear there's a debian cve tracking tool, but I can't recall where it is.
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41 [00:15:23] <krup> okay, thanks -- i was able to find the disclosures page but im unsure if that would include that pacakge
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44 [00:16:20] <DebianLoser> karlpinc: Another path I tried to go down was entering GRUB's own, pretty bare, console, and unlocking my encrypted drive from there, as described here: replaced-url
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46 [00:17:06] <DebianLoser> I managed to unlock it with my password, but once I then go back and tell GRUB to boot up Debian in rescue mode, it prompts me again for my LUKS password, and then proceeds to give me the same error about not being able to launch me into console
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54 [00:21:33] <DebianLoser> I wonder if there's a command in grub's console that will just launch terminal after I've unlocked the encrypted drive...
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57 [00:21:44] <DebianLoser> That way I could then apt down the correct intel drivers
58 [00:24:41] <DebianLoser> Anyway, am now entering rescue mode via the USB.
59 [00:24:51] <DebianLoser> Seems to work fine so far.
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61 [00:25:31] <DebianLoser> Okay, now it says:
62 [00:26:40] <DebianLoser> Some of your hardware needs non-free firmware files to operate. The firmware can be loaded from removable media, such as an USB stick or floppy. The missing firmware files are: iwlwifi-7260-17.ucode. If you have such media available now, insert it, and continue.
63 [00:26:59] <karlpinc> DebianLoser: That'd be if you need wifi. Otherwise ignore it.
64 [00:27:07] <DebianLoser> Can I download that file from the internet, put it on a second USB stick, and insert that, too, to the laptop? I'll try that.
65 [00:27:11] <DebianLoser> I need wifi.
66 [00:27:23] <karlpinc> DebianLoser: Do you need wifi to do the repair?
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68 [00:27:31] <DebianLoser> Oh! No.
69 [00:27:43] <karlpinc> DebianLoser: This is just the installer booting up.
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71 [00:27:56] <karlpinc> (and getting you into your existing installation)
72 [00:27:59] <DebianLoser> I see.
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74 [00:28:43] <DebianLoser> Okay, I got to enter my password for the encrypted disk. It now wants me to choose the device I wish to use as my root file system.
75 [00:28:54] <DebianLoser> Should that be the encrypted one, too?
76 [00:29:43] <DebianLoser> Other options are /dev/root/logvol and /dev/root/swap, as well as /dev/sda1-6 and /dev/sdb1, and "Assemble RAID array"
77 [00:30:04] <karlpinc> DebianLoser: That should be the (now decrypted) device.
78 [00:30:14] <DebianLoser> karlpinc: Thank you.
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80 [00:30:45] <DebianLoser> "Mount failed. An error occurred while mounting the device you entered for your root file system"
81 [00:31:11] <karlpinc> What device did you choose?
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83 [00:31:29] <DebianLoser> The encrypted one.
84 [00:31:35] <karlpinc> Which was....
85 [00:31:41] <Delf> It should appear in /dev/mapper/
86 [00:32:03] <DebianLoser> Sorry, I picked /dev/mapper/sda6_crypt
87 [00:32:30] <karlpinc> DebianLoser: You can use a vt to poke around.
88 [00:32:32] <karlpinc> !vt
89 [00:32:32] <dpkg> i heard vt is Virtual Terminal, like the console; change VTs using Alt+Left/Right or Alt+F1, Alt+F2 etc. To get from X to a VT, use Ctrl+Alt+F1 (and Alt+F7 to get back, most likely). You can also use "chvt" to switch VT. VT is also used to mean Intel VT-x or VT-d (virtualization support; the AMD counterpart is called AMD-V or Pacifica), ask me about <xve>.
90 [00:32:55] <DebianLoser> An error occurred while mounting the device you entered for your root file system (/dev/mapper/sda6_crypt) on /target.
91 [00:33:16] <karlpinc> DebianLoser: Is there lvm on your encrypted device, and so multiple logical volumes?
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93 [00:33:54] <DebianLoser> Hm. Here's where I'm starting to regret letting my Debian knowledgeable friend installing everything for me and not asking any questions..
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95 [00:34:10] <DebianLoser> I can't answer that, I'm afraid. But it's a dual-boot system, with Windows and Debian.
96 [00:34:28] <karlpinc> DebianLoser: You can go to a vt and do "vgchange -ay" and see if it finds lvm.
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98 [00:34:46] <DebianLoser> Okay, sure, but how can I enter a vt from this rescue mode menu?
99 [00:34:50] <DebianLoser> It is very bare bones.
100 [00:34:58] <karlpinc> DebianLoser: See above.
101 [00:35:14] <DebianLoser> Ctrl+Alt+F1?
102 [00:35:34] <lupine> ITYM DebianWinner
103 [00:35:35] <karlpinc> DebianLoser: Or one of the F keys. There's 3 or 4 available in the installer.
104 [00:35:58] <Delf> Yes, those. Use Alt+Left/Right to get to a suitable one. One is used for logging (if I'm not lying).
105 [00:36:04] <DebianLoser> Oh, go back to the installer. I see. Will try.
106 [00:36:24] <DebianLoser> Tried alt left, I now have just a blinking sign on a black screen.
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109 [00:36:53] <Delf> Keep going through
110 [00:37:17] <DebianLoser> There, booted back to the Rescue mode disk now.
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113 [00:37:52] <sorressean> Hi all. I've been a die-hard BSD (coming from Debian) user for a while now, and am honestly just ready to forego the concept of packages being in sensable places and systemd for an easier go of things. For example installing simple packages. My biggest concern is jails; everything I host on BSD is stuck in a jail. Does Debian (or LInux really) have a good jail system?
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115 [00:39:25] <karlpinc> sorressean: You can use debootstrap to setup chroots for compiling and such. What are you trying to do with a jail?
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117 [00:39:55] <sorressean> karlpinc: I have each service that runs in a bsd jail. It's a separate userspace and everything from the host
118 [00:40:05] <DebianLoser> Is there any harm in selecting a different device as my root file system?
119 [00:40:11] <karlpinc> sorressean: Generally the easy way is to setup a vm.
120 [00:40:16] <sorressean> so if someone exploits my webserver... they can't do anything, get host passwords, etc
121 [00:40:27] <karlpinc> DebianLoser: No, but you won't be able to fix things if you choose the wrong wone.
122 [00:40:42] <annadane> debian does have apparmor and firejail
123 [00:40:54] <DebianLoser> Ah. I thought I could just choose one and then finally get to terminal and then just mount on the encrypted one, and go on it and fix things.
124 [00:41:11] <karlpinc> sorressean: There's namespaces, which are fine-grained -- network, fs, etc.
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126 [00:41:30] <DebianLoser> karlpinc: There, I am now in rescue mode. I guess I should select to execute a shell.
127 [00:41:47] <karlpinc> DebianLoser: Yes. Then fix things.
128 [00:41:54] <DebianLoser> Will be given a shell with /dev/root/logvol mounted on "/"
129 [00:42:28] <karlpinc> sorressean: The "easy way" is with some vm like kvm. RedHat even has open-sourced some sort of gui management tool. (I forget.)
130 [00:42:59] <Delf> sorressean: Are you familiar with LXC? replaced-url
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133 [00:43:52] <DebianLoser> karlpinc: Now what would be the commands to mount my encrypted partition? Heheh. If this is too much, I'll just resort to Google..
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135 [00:44:02] <karlpinc> sorressean: Yeah. LXC is like a vm, but (can) share the OS.
136 [00:44:12] <karlpinc> DebianLoser: It should be mounted.
137 [00:44:37] <DebianLoser> Ah, it is!
138 [00:44:38] <karlpinc> DebianLoser: And you should be chrooted into it, so it is as if you booted into it.
139 [00:44:56] <DebianLoser> karlpinc: I am! Yay!
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141 [00:46:23] <DebianLoser> karlpinc: This is where I realize having internet connectivity might be a good idea if you wanna do apt...
142 [00:46:46] <DebianLoser> Setting that up now.
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145 [00:51:43] <filpAM> So I think I have found a bug: I'm trying to statically link a program, but it reports "/usr/bin/ld: -lasound not found" even though it is explicity installed on my system(libasound2 package). So I tracked all the libasound files on my system(with locate asound) and I checked there is no libasound.a, only the .so file.
146 [00:52:09] <filpAM> Shouldnt the debian package come along with a static object as well
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148 [00:54:49] <karlpinc> filpAM: Probably not. The -dev package might or might not.
149 [00:55:25] <karlpinc> (I'm just thinking that if every package came with a static library then that would suck space that mostly would not be needed.)
150 [00:55:43] <ayekat> yeah, .a files in non-dev packages don't really serve any purpose
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153 [00:56:20] <filpAM> the -dev package is installed as well
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156 [00:56:41] <filpAM> libasound2-dev/stable,now 1.1.8-1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
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158 [00:57:21] <karlpinc> filpAM: I don't know then. There must be something documented somewhere about static libs, but I can't say where. I'd start with the developer docs at debian.org. The packaging manual might say.
159 [00:57:31] <karlpinc> filpAM: (Or google. :)
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162 [01:00:44] <DebianLoser> karlpinc: Okay, so I installed the iwlwifi file on a separate USB, and it successfully detected and connected to my wifi.
163 [01:00:52] <DebianLoser> I am now in a shell, thanks to rescue mode.
164 [01:00:59] <DebianLoser> But the shell does not resolve any hosts.
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166 [01:01:41] <karlpinc> DebianLoser: You can, say, ping 8.8.8.8?
167 [01:02:58] <DebianLoser> karlpinc: Yes. I couldn't before! But now I can.
168 [01:03:05] <karlpinc> If so, edit /etc/resolve.conf and put in a nameserver to use, like so: nameserver 127.0.0.1
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170 [01:03:20] <karlpinc> Only use a good ip. 8.8.8.8 should work.
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172 [01:04:33] <Delf> DebianLoser: So that you're aware. 8.8.8.8 belongs to google
173 [01:04:59] <DebianLoser> Yeah. I know.
174 [01:05:21] <DebianLoser> Okay, so I edited /etc/resolve.conf with nano, entered nameserver 8.8.8.8
175 [01:05:27] <DebianLoser> It can still not resolve addresses.
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182 [01:11:56] <DebianLoser> Okay, so, on a different note, having grep'ed around in my apt install logs, I can see I (probably stupidly) installed a package called libgl1-mesa-glx:i386
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184 [01:12:06] <DebianLoser> I think this is what fucked things up.
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189 [01:12:59] <maxrazer> For some reason using i3wm and debian it causes a permanant line to burn into my monitor. If I use windows it goes away with time. What could cause this?
190 [01:13:18] <DebianLoser> I want to uninstall it, but I'd want to replace it with its proper drivers instead.
191 [01:13:39] <maxrazer> It must either be debian or something missing from the desktop environment that is hurting the monitor.
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193 [01:15:49] <ilikeyou> DebianLoser: just trying to understand your situation.. the internet connection on your host system is working, but you cannot get it working in the chrooted environment?
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196 [01:17:24] <DebianLoser> ilikeyou: I am in repair mode, having booted from a USB, in order to fix some packages I installed which broke Debian. I have successfully entered repair mode, and got it to connect to my wifi, too, being prompted with password and then told it was successful. From repair mode, I then entered terminal, chrooted into my encrypted drive, all fine. In
197 [01:17:24] <DebianLoser> terminal, I can ping addresses fine, but it cannot resolve any IPs, meaning I can't use apt.
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201 [01:20:25] <DebianLoser> What I want to do is attempt to install a proper libgl1-mesa package (the i386 one can't possibly be right for my architecture) and see if that fixes the issue.
202 [01:21:04] <Delf> DebianLoser: "pastebin" /etc/nsswitch.conf
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204 [01:22:26] <DebianLoser> Delf: Sure, a sec.
205 [01:22:55] <ilikeyou> well, just copy whatever is in the /etc/resolv.conf on the rescuecd to the chrooted resolve.conf. that should fix your host resolving issue and get you started
206 [01:24:12] <Delf> DebianLoser: cat /etc/nsswitch.conf | nc 5.39.93.71 9999
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210 [01:25:47] <DebianLoser> nsswitch.conf has three lines: passwd: files / group: files / shadow: files
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213 [01:26:46] <DebianLoser> Oh, cool
214 [01:26:47] <DebianLoser> replaced-url
215 [01:26:50] <DebianLoser> Is what I got.
216 [01:26:54] <DebianLoser> What a clever tool!
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219 [01:29:46] <Delf> Can you append "hosts: files dns" to /etc/nsswitch.conf and try to ping google.com
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225 [01:33:23] <DebianLoser> @Delf when I go to nano edit /etc/nsswitch.conf it is much longer ... ???
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227 [01:34:19] <Delf> w00t
228 [01:34:55] <DebianLoser> replaced-url
229 [01:35:09] <DebianLoser> I did a sudo cat /etc/nsswitch.conf instead
230 [01:35:13] <DebianLoser> Result above
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232 [01:36:24] <Delf> where did you mount your decrypted dev?
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235 [01:37:50] * Delf is incompetent and suggests to wait for someone competent enough to assist
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237 [01:38:15] <DebianLoser> Um, in one dev or another.
238 [01:38:55] <Delf> DebianLoser: sudo mount | nc 5.39.93.71 9999
239 [01:39:43] <DebianLoser> replaced-url
240 [01:39:51] <DebianLoser> Delf: I really appreciate the help. I am so bad at this...
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242 [01:40:19] <DebianLoser> Can I try to manually edit the resolv file again?
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244 [01:40:57] <Delf> The output you got when running sudo looks alright
245 [01:41:25] <DebianLoser> Delf: I now did sudo nano resolve.conf in /etc/
246 [01:41:30] <DebianLoser> I can see nameserver 8.8.8.8 there.
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248 [01:43:10] <DebianLoser> Okay, so just for fun, I lynxed into the Wikipedia IP. Works.
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250 [01:43:51] <Delf> When you ping, you don't prefix with replaced-url
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253 [01:45:42] <DebianLoser> Haha, no.
254 [01:45:53] <Delf> cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc 5.39.93.71 9999
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256 [01:47:10] <Delf> You could the ip# of the dns addresses that apt resolves in /etc/hosts but this is not a solution :P
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258 [01:47:42] <DebianLoser> replaced-url
259 [01:47:51] <DebianLoser> @Delf Was thinking the same, haha.
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276 [01:58:48] <brutser> Can someone help me out > I am using the scripts provided at: replaced-url
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278 [01:58:48] <brutser> directory"
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280 [01:59:26] <brutser> what to do about that? script is not big and most of it is pretty obvious
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443 [03:32:33] <warsoul> anybody can help me with my debian freezing
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447 [03:34:43] <cybiko123> Is this a new install? If not, when did it start freezing?
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449 [03:34:55] <cybiko123> Anything useful in dmesg -T?
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454 [03:37:38] <warsoul> cybiko123, happen the first time using irc nothing else
455 [03:37:55] <warsoul> the second time happen using firefox searching for something on google
456 [03:38:09] <warsoul> when i clicked the link it freezes
457 [03:38:16] <warsoul> just 2 times has freeze
458 [03:38:26] <warsoul> is a 1month and something install
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460 [03:39:17] <cybiko123> Anything else correlated? Did it get hot?
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462 [03:40:09] <cybiko123> How much is frozen when it freezes? Does the cursor move? Can you switch to a VT?
463 [03:40:21] <cybiko123> If sound is playing, does it get "stuck"?
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467 [03:42:33] <warsoul> it get stuck completely
468 [03:43:29] <cybiko123> Next time this happens, check dmesg when it comes back
469 [03:43:47] <cybiko123> check dmesg when it recovers*
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472 [03:45:47] <warsoul> ok
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482 [03:57:58] <tomreyn> warsoul: do you have a persistent systemd journal maybe? then you could check the previous boot / uptime / session now.
483 [03:58:05] <tomreyn> journalctl -b -1
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485 [03:58:53] <jh001_> warsoul: what happened when you pulled your usb wifi after the hang?
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500 [04:10:12] <jh001_> warsoul: why not? the log items you mentioned yesterday clearly involve a usb device. and now you're back with the same issue.
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505 [04:12:30] <warsoul> im going to check
506 [04:12:38] <warsoul> or mmaybe im buying a new device
507 [04:12:48] <warsoul> because this one the signal on debian is very low
508 [04:12:53] <warsoul> it works fine on windows
509 [04:13:02] <warsoul> but on debian for some reason is 53%
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511 [04:14:10] <jh001_> warsoul: are you trying to solve a hung box or a slow wifi?
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513 [04:14:53] <warsoul> im thinking on chaging it anyways because of the slow wifi
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515 [04:15:06] <warsoul> and now it looks like is freezing the pc
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524 [04:22:40] <iuiututa> hi to all
525 [04:23:18] <iuiututa> i need help with bugs in my log
526 [04:23:38] <iuiututa> replaced-url
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537 [04:36:22] <iuiututa> i shall never do an lvm cryto by hand again
538 [04:36:34] <jh001_> iuiututa: could tou paste out the output of "lshw" as well please?
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540 [04:38:38] <iuiututa> jh001_ i will do it soon
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548 [04:40:26] <iuiututa> the client vm is in the middle of an update
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570 [04:56:18] <iuiututa> my hardware is sadly slow, i need to wait to give more feedback. i am finishing xfce4 installation
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572 [04:59:51] <iuiututa> i am concerned that the pc corrupted something in the installation. yr gonna be laugh when i post the hardware spec
573 [05:02:53] <dvs> !pal iuiu
574 [05:02:54] * dpkg points at iuiu and laughs hysterically
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577 [05:09:33] <iuiututa> tinycore linux took me a fraction of time to install with X
578 [05:10:44] <iuiututa> i am wondering when the debian team is gonna deliver a true slim installation
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586 [05:17:08] <karlpinc> iuiututa: I always do a minimal install and install xfce afterwards.
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588 [05:17:29] <gkwhc> Hey guys, I'm trying to install mariadb on debian but its giving me a problem.."mariadb-client : Depends: mariadb-client-10.2 (>= 10.2.27+maria~stretch) but it is not going to be installed" how can this be resolved?
589 [05:17:42] <iuiututa> i did it, and now its all messed up
590 [05:17:59] <karlpinc> gkwhc: Are you using the stock debian repos?
591 [05:18:22] <gkwhc> karlpinc: yes
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593 [05:19:16] <gkwhc> karlpinc: theres stretch main stretch-updates, stretch-backports
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595 [05:21:11] <karlpinc> gkwhc: I don't see 10.2 in any of those.
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597 [05:21:19] <karlpinc> gkwhc: So how are you trying to install it.
598 [05:23:37] <gkwhc> karlpinc: oh huh you're right, theres 10.3 and 10.1 but not 10.2
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601 [05:24:01] <gkwhc> karlpinc: does that mean theres something wrong in my package list? i ran an update though
602 [05:24:41] <karlpinc> !bat
603 [05:24:42] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
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607 [05:26:27] <gkwhc> ah ok!
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612 [05:28:45] <iuiututa> i dont know how lshw will help more than my previous post. but i will do it as soon as possible
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614 [05:29:37] <iuiututa> good times when a 2G machine did all we needed
615 [05:31:08] <iuiututa> my mobile put my pc in the pocket
616 [05:31:16] <iuiututa> and have 1G
617 [05:34:39] <iuiututa> the core dont have virtualization instructions believe this is a point to blame the hardware
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635 [05:50:23] <iuiututa> a promissed here you are replaced-url
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641 [05:52:39] <iuiututa> to metion the host has 2Gram the client eated 1G
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647 [05:57:06] <jh001_> iuiututa: thanks - was just trying to make sense of the slowness I was seeing in your dmesg
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649 [05:58:04] <jh001_> iuiututa: so looks like buster - did you upgrade or clean install?
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651 [05:59:02] <iuiututa> i did a clean install not today. now was just a slow xfce4 installation
652 [05:59:42] <iuiututa> but the fastness is not my concern
653 [05:59:58] <iuiututa> are the bugs in boot
654 [06:00:29] <iuiututa> forget fast slow stuff
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657 [06:02:09] <iuiututa> the keywords a dependencies not ok
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661 [06:05:56] <iuiututa> and the system get stuck in the middle of the boot with manitenance prompt
662 [06:06:07] <iuiututa> i can give the image again
663 [06:07:00] <jh001_> iuiututa: but has the box always been this sluggish, or just sincethe clean install?
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665 [06:07:23] <iuiututa> replaced-url
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672 [06:09:44] <iuiututa> jh001_ any debian install is slow here, but again, my concerns are bug messages
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675 [06:13:23] <iuiututa> dependencies failed in many points
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677 [06:14:48] <jh001_> iuiututa: I understand, but your CPU stalls are not good. I suspect you kernel has bome unhappy with something. As you just did a clean install, you're probably in a position do do another one. Do a minimal install. Consider updating your BIOS first.
678 [06:16:44] <iuiututa> i believe i messed something choosing by hand the partitions an logical fisical volumes
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680 [06:17:28] <iuiututa> im almost sure if i do a assisted install is gonna be ok
681 [06:18:12] <iuiututa> but i think if you offer manual tkeaks theis shuld be safe tweaks
682 [06:18:29] <jh001_> iuiututa: yeah - start simple.
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684 [06:20:04] <iuiututa> because i did all inside the installer
685 [06:20:30] <iuiututa> the installer must be fail proof
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687 [06:21:13] <iuiututa> im done for now
688 [06:21:21] <jh001_> iuiututa: the installer gets better all the time - but perfect? not yet.
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691 [06:22:55] <iuiututa> hope the information may help something improved in the future
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869 [09:40:56] <pincopallcolo> hi! I would like to install debian on ssd with the below configuration: sda gpt, efi (1GB), /boot (ext4 1gb), / (luks ext4), /home (luks ext4); i did it once for a non uefi system, with jessie version. Now I got during installation process the error I could not proceed with installation. Im using net inst iso expert mode (from my memory to format
870 [09:40:56] <pincopallcolo> in gpt the disk and luks in that way, I have to use only net inst iso, not normal live iso). Is my disk partition table bad setted?
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873 [09:43:03] <frikinz> I'm adding entries as auto in fstab. Is there something specific to do if I don't want systemd to block my boot if the remote share is nto reachable?
874 [09:44:08] <humpled> i think 'nofail' frikinz
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960 [11:01:47] <SaganMan> frikinz: backup your fstab before making any changes
961 [11:02:05] <SaganMan> and also add nofail as mentioned
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967 [11:08:13] <KBme> Hello. Does anyone know why after a db_get for a select type debconf question $RET just contains "ok"?
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1113 [13:15:29] <andi_> hello i just started a docker using the debian:stretch image, i wanted to additionally install apt-get install software-properties-common and got this erros: replaced-url
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1115 [13:15:50] <grammoboy2> how do I make space during a dist upgrade ? Working from a live usb, chroot
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1119 [13:16:56] <avu> andi_: did you run `apt-get update` before the `apt-get install`?
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1121 [13:17:32] <andi_> avu: yeah, replaced-url
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1123 [13:18:05] <avu> andi_: no idea then, maybe try another mirror?
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1128 [13:23:26] <gidna> Hello
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1130 [13:24:14] <gidna> Where can I find the package pdflatex for debian?
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1134 [13:25:35] <colo-work> gidna, texlive-latex-base
1135 [13:26:23] <gidna> colo-work, to get info about that package what command should I use?
1136 [13:26:46] <colo-work> gidna, apt-cache show texlive-latex-base
1137 [13:27:01] <colo-work> also maybe relevant, apt-cache policy <pkgname>
1138 [13:27:26] <gidna> Size: 984132 what is this? MB
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1141 [13:29:10] <colo-work> bytes, I believe
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1143 [13:29:18] <colo-work> the deps are going to be massivle more, however
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1145 [13:29:37] <gidna> so, 9.8 GB??
1146 [13:29:38] <colo-work> (apt-get install will tell you how many more MBytes your installation operation is going to consume on your filesystems)
1147 [13:29:49] <colo-work> bytes. not megabytes.
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1149 [13:29:59] <colo-work> I gotta go, sorry
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1153 [13:33:39] <egonsen> where shall i put a self signed ssl certificate for use with apache2?
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1158 [13:37:59] <omar> hello
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1162 [13:40:14] <bolt> egonsen: doesn't really matter. you tell apache2 where it is in the site configuration file. /etc/ssl/ subdirectories might be preferred by some. Just make sure the permissions are as restrictive as possible so your users can't read the private bit.
1163 [13:40:38] <jelly> egonsen: you might as well mkdir /etc/apache2/ssl and put the key and cert there
1164 [13:40:51] <bolt> egonsen: letsencrypt, for instance, will by default keep its certs in /etc/letsencrypt. That's fine too.
1165 [13:41:26] <jelly> bolt: which LE client is that
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1167 [13:42:32] <bolt> jelly: certbot. sorry, should have specified that
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1170 [13:43:34] <bolt> jelly: /etc/letsencrypt/live/<domain>/privkey.pem
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1176 [13:47:23] <jelly> dehydrated uses /var/lib/dehydrated/certs/$domain/
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1224 [14:22:04] <ihateAdmins> hello, so after a full day power off again, all the (ssh,apache,vsftpd) services are unavailable on boot, but the pc is pingable.
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1226 [14:22:17] <ihateAdmins> After a quick reboot everything works fine again
1227 [14:22:50] <ihateAdmins> Any ideas what might be happening?
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1230 [14:26:14] <LtL> ihateAdmins: are you behind a router, and what is the systemctl status of the services? my guess is the router.
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1232 [14:27:23] <ihateAdmins> yes behind a router it's in my lan. The services are all running and active
1233 [14:28:03] <ihateAdmins> This Problem only appears after pulling the plug of the pc and waiting ~10hours
1234 [14:28:21] <ihateAdmins> it does get instantly a ip on boot eveytime
1235 [14:28:42] <ihateAdmins> ip configuration is static
1236 [14:29:09] <LtL> ihateAdmins: seems doubtful that three services would fail, but a flaky router could account for this. i don't know the details but i have followed this a bit.
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1241 [14:30:54] <LtL> ihateAdmins: is the router doing DHCP?
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1244 [14:32:12] <LtL> static addressing -might- have something to do with.
1245 [14:32:28] <ihateAdmins> no everything is managed with the static network-manager configuration so the pc gets the same ip everytime, the dhcp service is not being used by the pc
1246 [14:32:50] <ihateAdmins> the ip adress is not in range for dhcp usage
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1252 [14:34:19] <LtL> ihateAdmins: not in range.. meaning iot's a class A subnet and not C ie 192.168.x.x?
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1254 [14:34:52] <ihateAdmins> i mean it is not used by dhcp, since there are not many devices it's class c
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1257 [14:35:33] <LtL> everything on the LAN static?
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1259 [14:36:31] <ihateAdmins> it's wlan and yes i did everything static in the config. Mac of wifi interface bssid ip..
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1263 [14:41:22] <ihateAdmins> Dhcp is running, but currently it only used up to 30 adresses
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1265 [14:41:41] <ihateAdmins> the pc is running on .150
1266 [14:42:11] <section1> ihateAdmins, where are you trying to connect to that pc ?
1267 [14:42:20] <section1> from the same network ? o from outside ?
1268 [14:42:25] <ihateAdmins> same network
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1270 [14:42:43] <section1> if you do a telnet pc-ip 22 whats the output ?
1271 [14:43:09] <section1> i think that now its not falling ..
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1273 [14:43:15] <section1> and its working
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1275 [14:43:54] <ihateAdmins> Escape character is '^]'.SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_7.4p1 Debian-10+deb9u7
1276 [14:43:57] <ihateAdmins> it is working
1277 [14:44:30] <ihateAdmins> i can't reproduce the problem even if i pull the plug now. It takes a while to be turned off to appea
1278 [14:44:42] <section1> when is failing you can try to put a tcpdump on the pc with the service too se if the packets are coming..example tcpdump port 22 and do a the telnet test from other pc
1279 [14:44:59] <section1> to see*
1280 [14:45:05] <ihateAdmins> that's a good idea thanks
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1352 [15:35:44] <Lope> I'm running KDE on buster, I can't seem to get gnome-terminal to run
1353 [15:36:01] <Lope> I installed it and used it once or twice, now it doesn't want to start up.
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1355 [15:36:22] <greycat> start it from some other terminal -- is there an error message?
1356 [15:36:26] <Lope> On my other KDE Buster system, I use gnome-terminal all the time without any issues.
1357 [15:36:36] <Lope> greycat, I tried that, no error
1358 [15:37:46] <Lope> I ran it with `strace -t gnome-terminal`, it says: 15:37:15 write(1, "# Error constructing proxy for o"..., 157# Error constructing proxy for org.gnome.Terminal:/org/gnome/Terminal/Factory0: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.gnome.Terminal: Timeout was reached
1359 [15:37:47] <Lope> ) = 157
1360 [15:38:14] <greycat> that looks very much like a message being written to stdout, so I wonder where stdout went...
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1363 [15:38:26] <Lope> before that it said: 15:37:15 fstat(1, {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0600, st_rdev=makedev(0x88, 0x2), ...}) = 0
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1367 [15:38:42] <Lope> Ah, that msg came after about 30 seconds, I probably didn't wait that long before.
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1369 [15:39:02] <greycat> I'd google the error and see what it means.
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1385 [15:47:45] <finn0> Lope: Are you facing this issue in your other user accounts also. If so, create a new user account and open gnome-terminal from their.
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1389 [15:50:33] <finn0> I've faced this once after changing my locale which is due to missing enviroment variable which later I figured out and exported that env variable in ~/.profile file.
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1393 [15:53:00] <finn0> But, I'm running GNOME.
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1433 [16:21:39] <Lope> finn0, that's quite possible, because I did change locales
1434 [16:22:14] <greycat> If changing locale variables makes gnome-terminal stop working, I reserve all rights to point and laugh at GNOME some more.
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1436 [16:22:38] <Lope> greycat, bash gnome as much as you want, gnome-terminal is better than konsole
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1438 [16:22:44] <Lope> so I use it on KDE :P
1439 [16:22:53] <hypersoul> halo
1440 [16:22:56] <hypersoul> noob here
1441 [16:23:02] <hypersoul> welcome me
1442 [16:23:12] <Lope> welcome to mianus
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1444 [16:23:22] <hypersoul> help me dearsss and deersss
1445 [16:23:56] <Lope> replaced-url
1446 [16:24:10] <hypersoul> any website to learn ubuntu server from beginner configuration server dhcp server etc bla bla bla
1447 [16:24:12] <finn0> Lope: Then, some env variable must be missing. Probably it should be "GDM_LANG".
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1450 [16:24:37] <greycat> hypersoul: ask #ubuntu
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1452 [16:25:19] <Lope> finn0, I tried exporting GDM_LANG but it didn't help
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1454 [16:25:34] <hypersoul> thank you greycat. lov you (cats) not racist by color .
1455 [16:25:37] <Lope> finn0, if you have gnome-terminal working, can you do printenv | grep LANG and tell me what vars you have?
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1457 [16:25:53] <finn0> how you are exporting?
1458 [16:26:08] <Lope> just in the terminal en_GB.UTF-8
1459 [16:26:12] <Lope> then run gnome-terminal
1460 [16:26:27] <Lope> export GDM_LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
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1462 [16:26:56] <Lope> I've got LANGUAGE and LANG set the same, as well
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1465 [16:27:25] <finn0> nope, that will not work. you've to add this line "export GDM_LANG="en_GB.UTF-8" in your ~/.profile and re-login.
1466 [16:27:54] <Lope> finn0, you mean logout of KDE?
1467 [16:28:02] <Lope> Ah I recall that being an issue before
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1469 [16:28:08] <Lope> Okay I'll reboot
1470 [16:28:11] <Lope> brb
1471 [16:28:21] <Lope> or just logout, perhaps.
1472 [16:28:23] <finn0> yep, logout from user.
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1474 [16:29:00] <hypersoul> seems to be working goodluck
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1476 [16:29:13] <greycat> replaced-url
1477 [16:29:37] <jelly> finn0: how does gdm, running before a user logs in, and before knowing which user is going to log in, know about one specific user's ~/.profile?
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1479 [16:30:00] <Lope> finn0, after logging out and back in, it #JustWorks
1480 [16:30:06] <Lope> Didn't need GDM_LANG
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1482 [16:31:10] <finn0> then seems like after changing locale you didn't re-login
1483 [16:32:01] <Lope> indeed
1484 [16:32:08] <Lope> #NoobMistake
1485 [16:32:13] <Lope> GTG BBL
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1495 [16:39:26] <finn0> jelly: sorry for my ignorance, I'm not that much familiar with GDM. But, I do know ~/.profile is read by /etc/gdm3/Xsession script (a shell script). And 'dbus-update-activation-environment' set all env variables defined in ~/.profile file.
1496 [16:39:46] <onryo> How do I update the repo in cmd line?
1497 [16:40:01] <onryo> Is it apt-get or apt upgrade?
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1501 [16:43:42] <finn0> jelly: And in my case there is one env missing due to which gnome-terminal wasn't working. So, I created a new user and check all env variables value and match it which current and found out that one env variable was missing (i.e. GDM_LANG). So, I decided to export this variable to put in ~/.profile which will automatically exported when I login to user.
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1508 [16:47:35] <finn0> *was
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1511 [16:49:02] <jelly> nod
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1516 [16:56:14] <greycat> My google results showed me a few bug reports about gnome-terminal silently or not-silently refusing to start up if the locale variables are not exactly what GNOME expects to see, and no resolution or acknowledgement of anything.
1517 [16:56:26] <greycat> !pal GNOME
1518 [16:56:27] * dpkg points at GNOME and laughs
1519 [16:56:48] <dvs> heh
1520 [16:58:35] <LtL> oneon: on stretch or buster, apt update does an update, apt upgrade attempts to upgrade packages. apt-get update && apt-get upgrade does the same thing.
1521 [16:58:58] <LtL> they left.. sigh.
1522 [16:59:05] <greycat> Nearly the same. There are some differences between apt upgrade, and apt-get upgrade.
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1528 [17:00:08] <LtL> greycat: wasn't aware of that, i'll have to read, thanks
1529 [17:00:20] <greycat> The most important being that apt upgrade is closest to apt-get upgrade --with-new-pkgs; the second most important being whether .deb files are left behind.
1530 [17:00:55] <LtL> good to know, thanks mr. greycat
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1532 [17:01:09] <greycat> The third most important being the fact that I can't read the progress meter of apt ugprade, because they use yellow fucking text.
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1596 [17:34:48] <gkwhc> hey guys, so i just upgraded to debian 10 and my previously transparent lxterm is now opaque, even though i tried adjust the settings to be transparent. what could be wrong? how can i go about diagnosing this?
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1602 [17:37:05] <diogenes_> gkwhc, maybe with a new test user.
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1614 [17:40:22] <karlpinc> gkwhc: Conceivably, the readme.debian has some info.
1615 [17:40:29] <karlpinc> !tell gkwhc about readme.debian
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1739 [18:42:10] <pthomas> hello, I would like to handle network config with environment variables set by scripts, any thoughts on how to do this?
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1742 [18:43:37] <notfbi> like cron jobs?
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1746 [18:43:55] <pthomas> for instance in /etc/network/interfaces I would like something like iface eth0 inet $Eth0Type
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1748 [18:44:07] <pthomas> 'iface eth0 inet $Eth0Type'
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1751 [18:44:25] <pthomas> where Eth0Type could be dhcp or static
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1889 [19:54:03] <gmturner> Hello, I'm trying to figure out why debian-10 initramfs doesn't seem to want to play nicely with ISO's or extracted live-ISO contents on NTFS usb sticks... Just exited the identical merry-go-round on Fedora and it turned out to be a dracut invocation issue: replaced-url
1890 [19:54:03] <gmturner> can get pretty confusing, wondering if some SME might be hanging around that groks how all the pieces fit together post-buster?
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1893 [19:56:41] <gmturner> Based on vague anecdotal evidence it seems like this may sort-of be a regression (or more like a "didn't-re-implement-that in the new framework)" since stretch
1894 [19:57:01] <aZz7eCh> hi guys. running debian 9. have virtualbox 5. i have installed deb10 into a vbox to check it out... but it runs like a dogs breakfast. sluggish as hell. I noticed if i install deb9 in a vbox it is just as sluggish and unbearable.. even just hte mouse pointer is annoyingly slow. am i missing something obvious? i have been tweaking the settings for the vbox machine but nothing really makes any diff. any suggestions appreciated
1895 [19:57:05] <Primer> gmturner: guessing it can't find the squashfs on ntfs?
1896 [19:57:12] <Primer> gmturner: it being grub?
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1900 [19:57:42] <aZz7eCh> btw - a windows 10 install in the same vbox version, runs smooth and fine.
1901 [19:57:56] <gmturner> Yeah, it fails the is_supported_fs test in the initial initramfs code. Which is exactly the failure modality I encountered in FedoraLand, but their dracut approach seems drastically different
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1903 [19:59:13] <gmturner> Specifically I suspect that Fedora is usuing vanilla dracut magic while debian is cooking up their own scripts and gut replacing most of dracut's shell scripts... can't seem to figure out where it all lives in git though
1904 [19:59:23] <Primer> gmturner: oh, at the initramfs stage. Are you doing this in a VM/chroot?
1905 [19:59:40] <Primer> usually one queries grub for the fs of /boot
1906 [19:59:43] <gmturner> Yes but I 've tried bare-metal with equivalent results
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1910 [20:01:05] <gmturner> Basically if we reach that is_supported_fs I think the game is already over as it's got this hard-coded "is there a kernel module with than name?" which is either going to give a wrong answer (ntfs.ko) or a false-negative answer (no ntfs.ko, but mount.ntfs-3g is right there waiting to be used on the initramfs)
1911 [20:01:42] <Primer> gmturner: grub-probe /boot <-- What does this report?
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1913 [20:02:02] <Primer> If /boot is applicable
1914 [20:03:13] <Primer> aZz7eCh: yes, the stuff you install onto a guest upon install?
1915 [20:03:18] <Primer> the stuff that makes it fast
1916 [20:03:34] <aZz7eCh> Primer, its a fresh install - both 10 and 9, nothing installed
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1919 [20:04:20] <Primer> aZz7eCh: perhaps your 9 has stuff to supprt things like, a proper display? Are you running X?
1920 [20:04:34] <Primer> Or is this booting into a console?
1921 [20:04:54] <gmturner> Well for my particular usecase that's probably a mess unless I do it from gentoo.... my original objective before I started fixing stuff was to have USB stick with all the linuxen. My personal use-case involves hand-coding grub scripts and, sadly, blocklists (but I think I know how to fix that eventually).
1922 [20:05:02] <aZz7eCh> Primer, not sure what you mean. I am using Debian 9 (gnome3?)
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1925 [20:06:21] <Primer> gmturner: I'm interesteed in making such a boot USB as well. I have zfs root. But my plan was to just have native partitions on the USB, a UEFI partition about 2G in size, to support debian live minimal, and use it to boot off of, then install onto the device's partitions
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1927 [20:06:28] <gmturner> What happens is it spins waiting for the magically is_supported filesystem to come online for some outrageously long period like ten minutes (well, outrageous when you're trying to debug and forgot for the 20th time to look up the argument that speeds it up :)). Then, yeah it times out and dumps me to a "(initramfs)" shell
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1929 [20:06:56] <Primer> gmturner: maybe it's running that grub-probe /boot :)
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1931 [20:07:17] <gmturner> That I've been able to do successfully, Primer, and even with hybrid gpt/dos partitioning if you are into that.
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1933 [20:07:29] <Primer> gmturner: I presume you have some VM for doing this? I'm using qemu-kvm
1934 [20:07:42] <Primer> gmturner: that's one of my goals, yes
1935 [20:07:53] <Primer> as I'd also like to use this as a portable live system for S&G
1936 [20:08:56] <gmturner> However I'm concerned that if I go that way I lose the "live" magic like, for example, I would hope a live bootstrap would include some special magic to not worry too much about persistent ethernet naming and stuff like that (even on persistent live systems). Or maybe it doesn't do that and this is all pointless :) But I still kinda feel like fixing it
1937 [20:09:00] <Primer> So what exactly needs to be on the ntfs that can't be on, say, a big ass fat32 UEFI?
1938 [20:09:05] <Primer> Like I'm doing
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1940 [20:09:26] <gmturner> The simplest answer would be, a gigantic casper-rw volume
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1942 [20:09:33] <Primer> well, whatever boots would have to also implement ntfs-3g
1943 [20:09:48] <Primer> hehe and that is solved by using a partition. next
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1945 [20:10:20] <Primer> I mean, I realize this is out of the scope of what you want to do
1946 [20:10:25] <gmturner> it actually does include ntfs-3g and mounts it just fine so long as you manually tell it to. I don't know how to tell dracut to pick up where it left off though... dracut is remarkably obtuse and discombobulated :(
1947 [20:11:12] <Primer> yeah, the fact that you want your iso on ntfs would just be a...barrier, IMO
1948 [20:11:21] <Primer> I mean, why must it be ntfs?
1949 [20:11:22] <gmturner> But presumably if I knew how it would actually spin up just fine if I manually mounted the stage-zero rootfs and then said "now do your magic with that filesystem"
1950 [20:11:33] <Primer> Is the casper > 4G?
1951 [20:11:37] <gmturner> (if only I knew how to say that :P)
1952 [20:11:43] <gmturner> Yeah.
1953 [20:12:06] <Primer> So...is there any reason you can't just use a native partition instead?
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1955 [20:12:25] <gmturner> Debian is the sexyiest prospect for huge persistent live systems because it actually supports kernel upgrading (or at least used to and now has a bunch of gross remnant documentation getting my hopes up :))
1956 [20:12:54] <Primer> I know that you're pursuing casper. But you seem to know grub too. Just add a menuentry and have it boot a normally installed distro onto a partition. IMO. It's what I'm doing.
1957 [20:13:03] <greycat> Debian has never supported kernel updates without a reboot.
1958 [20:13:18] <Primer> gmturner: it is also my understanding that debian live is not as mature as say, ubuntu, when it comes to live
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1960 [20:13:31] <Primer> and it being able to do things like, say, find its casper on ntfs
1961 [20:14:02] <gmturner> No. I absolutely can do that. Although I'm not sure I know how to properly tweak a debootstrap or live-config or .... ? to make it be "live-ish" and still just mount a normal partition i.e., ext4 or lvm.
1962 [20:14:17] <Primer> gmturner: my goal is also to have a live, persistent, debian 10 (testing) on a USB. I'm just not using casper. My plan is to use partitions. It seems...less painful.
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1964 [20:14:32] <Primer> gmturner: super easy
1965 [20:14:41] <Primer> I can summarize it if you wish :)
1966 [20:15:09] <Primer> I have been using debootstrap to make a live usb that has zfs root
1967 [20:15:09] <greycat> debian 10 is stable now
1968 [20:16:03] <gmturner> I think the problem is the project was run by some dude and there were some hard feelings about some nonsense and so now there is an official kind-of-bleeding-edge live framework and an unofficial more-stable-but-terribly-poorly-documented live framework, tons of wrong documentation and howto's etc... you know the standard thing for projects nobody really gives a crap about but 100 people really want :)
1969 [20:16:07] <Primer> which boots from a debian live iso that boots from a grub menu entry that exists on a /boot that is on a native partition of said USB, using the grub iso loop mounting feature
1970 [20:16:36] <gmturner> Sure, Primer, that'd be interesting to know. Stretch or buster though?
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1974 [20:17:11] <gmturner> I haven't bothered with stretch as this was the old unofficial live regime which, AFAICS does not suffer from this bug (haven't confirmed that first-hand but plenty of anecdotal evidence to the contraray)
1975 [20:17:18] <gmturner> contrary*
1976 [20:17:19] <Primer> So the flow is: Plug in usb: wipe partition table, make BIOS/UEFI partitions, but make UEFI one 4G, put debian live iso there, install grub efi, boot efi, grub shell, isoloop isopath
1977 [20:17:23] <gmturner> however you spell that stupid word :)
1978 [20:17:39] <Primer> from there, follow zfs root guide, reboot, et voilà
1979 [20:19:22] <AlpacaFace> hey guys. anyone have an idea of how to disable networkmanager in a chroot?
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1981 [20:19:39] <Primer> Doing this all in qemu-kvm, btw. Which has an issue with allowing VMs to write to block 0 of raw devices, so I had to overcome that.
1982 [20:20:41] <Primer> gmturner: anyhow, no reason the fs on the USB can't be anything else readable by grub. ext2.
1983 [20:20:48] <gmturner> ah, yeah, that works for vfat right now on buster OOTB. It's just the NTFS script-glue that's missing. Basically this one module does it: github.com/weldr/lorax/pull/849/commits/ac64763a53 and probably would for debian as well ... but I can't seem to find where/if dracut is even invoked by debian live-* projects
1984 [20:20:57] <Primer> Sure, windows won't read it, but who cares about that, right? :)
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1988 [20:21:43] <Primer> gmturner: that was kind of my point all along? Read what I wrote about debian live not being as mature as others
1989 [20:21:44] <gmturner> yeah but then you really can't have the one usb to rule them all which is annoying, as I spent $80 on a really fast USB SATA SSD
1990 [20:21:57] <Primer> i.e. not looking to mount ntfs at boot
1991 [20:22:25] <Primer> on a usb3 bus, hopefully?
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1994 [20:23:11] <gmturner> you see my dillema :) The mission was to throw out the 20 usb sticks in my "system administrative" bag and replace them with one stick.
1995 [20:23:14] <Primer> gmturner: so again, I ask, why do you need an ntfs _partition_?
1996 [20:23:25] <Primer> gmturner: yes, I want this too
1997 [20:23:34] <Primer> You want it to boot windows, presumably
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1999 [20:23:51] <gmturner> yeah. the thing is surprisingly faster than all my spinning rust (but slower than all my real SSD's).
2000 [20:24:04] <Primer> So...why can't you just chainboot to a partition with the windows boot loader on the MBR, or chain to its EFI file?
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2003 [20:24:32] <gmturner> Yes, I have parents and old people and stuff who I help out with their windows troubles on a fairly regular basis.
2004 [20:24:42] <Primer> And let the windows stuff take over at that point? It's still be easily integrated into a master boot grub menu
2005 [20:25:19] <Primer> yeah, I'm family tech support. I keep a single bootable windows recovery USB as well. Separate, ATM, but I'd love to have it all in one.
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2007 [20:25:32] <gmturner> I can. but ... bleh it's a long story. Basically it's doable but there's little gotchas. For example until quite recently windows would not recognize usb sticks with more than one partition as removable which creates automation problems.
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2011 [20:26:09] <Primer> We can make it work. I'm willing to help you with this. We can take it to PM.
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2013 [20:26:19] <Figure> hi.. any idea how can I sign driver for kernel?
2014 [20:26:34] <Figure> I've installed buster and wanted to upgrade to newer intel nic driver
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2016 [20:26:38] <Primer> ask them nicely in #debian on irc.oftc.net?
2017 [20:26:49] <Figure> compiled fine but I'm not able to load it due signing
2018 [20:26:51] <Primer> hehe j/k I wish I knew!
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2020 [20:27:11] <Primer> I had to give up secure boot when I installed nvidia-driver
2021 [20:27:23] <Figure> well I know how to sign it where I can get the default certificates to sign it
2022 [20:27:40] <gmturner> sg primer, see you there (but it's likely going to have to wait for a bit while I go see a doctor real quick (he's super close thankfully).
2023 [20:27:43] <gmturner> )
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2025 [20:28:18] <Primer> gmturner: I'm here 24/7/365.24
2026 [20:28:27] <gmturner> heh understood.
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2028 [20:28:59] <Primer> Figure: Is it not a factor of customizing the secure boot on the machine in question?
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2030 [20:29:16] <Primer> in the firmware
2031 [20:29:24] <Figure> it's matter of changing one kernel module on the fly
2032 [20:29:26] <gmturner> I think if I can figure out who invokes dracut during live-build/live-config sessions, then it will be trivial to turn it into a "just merge it" bug-with-fix-attached.
2033 [20:30:07] <Figure> and no I would not like to reboot it for NIC driver change.. that sounds like windows 95
2034 [20:30:41] <Primer> But the chain of trust extents all the way up into the firmware, if you booted securely
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2036 [20:31:45] <gmturner> This is the problem with secure boot afaics. Either you're the queen of Microsoftville, or you're not compiling your own kernel stuff ever.
2037 [20:32:04] <Primer> pretty sure they're not just going to go "here are the keys! go ahead and sign it yourself!"
2038 [20:32:26] <Figure> ffs why it's enabled by default?
2039 [20:32:34] <Primer> S&G
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2041 [20:32:43] <Primer> E-peen
2042 [20:32:44] <gmturner> Can you enroll your own key in EFI Figure?
2043 [20:32:56] <gmturner> I think that's how you get this done. Never done it myself.
2044 [20:33:29] <Figure> and I'm missing network connectivity from the machine due the fact that make install overwrote the original module
2045 [20:33:39] <Primer> Maybe RMS asked it to be so
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2047 [20:33:55] <Primer> Or maybe done to piss him off? More likely
2048 [20:34:15] <gmturner> In theory once you have root on a system running on secure-boot you can tell it to enroll new keys or some nonsense like that, which is why it's great and totally not about stopping people from doing stuff :)
2049 [20:34:31] <Primer> Figure: restore the linux-image deb from /var/apt/cache
2050 [20:34:52] <Primer> I did that just the other day when I hosed iwlwifi. I still can't get that damn thing to come on from suspend
2051 [20:35:09] <Figure> I would but it's not there anymore
2052 [20:36:59] <gmturner> The process looks to be adequately described (at least as of 2015) at replaced-url
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2054 [20:38:18] <Primer> I've not done it either, but what I saw in the firmware when I was poking around suggested that one needed to add one's own keys there
2055 [20:38:58] <Primer> hence the unavoidavble reboot of customizing machine-specific secure boot
2056 [20:39:29] <gmturner> Yeah if your EFI has those frobs you can get this done with sufficient head-scratching and a brief period of youtube-deprivation, or so I'd imagine :)
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2060 [20:41:14] <gmturner> I think the presence of those frobs is also how you sort out the folks using and abusing UEFI to respectively help you be paranoid or force you to run their particular OS :)
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2068 [20:43:14] <gmturner> Interestingly my phone uses UEFI for the latter -- or, it used to before 0-days eventually rescued everybody from Korean tyranny (LG :P).
2069 [20:43:40] <Figure> linux-image-4.19.0-5-amd64 anyone got this stored?
2070 [20:43:48] <Figure> signed version
2071 [20:43:59] <gmturner> I might Figure. Just a mo
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2074 [20:44:53] <gmturner> you need checksums or what figure?
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2076 [20:45:22] <Figure> hmm found the dep package
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2078 [20:45:29] <Figure> trying to restore the e1000e driver
2079 [20:45:54] <Figure> I guess that with next reboot I will install unsigned kernel
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2083 [20:48:14] <gmturner> Really unless you've got a pretty good reason to be paranoid about spies with USB sticks hacking your box, Figure, imo SB is not worth the hassle, especially on linux where every time you do anything interesting you seem to need to disable selinux and insmod something you built yourself (or at least it feels that way to me but I am surely in the upper "linux ricer" percentiles).
2084 [20:48:18] <Primer> surely that's available generally from the internets?
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2086 [20:50:05] <gmturner> Yeah, that's what I thought... if you find a buster-10.0.0 ISO, Figure, those contain the package you're looking for
2087 [20:50:57] <gmturner> Not that I actually know exactly what package that is... I'd have to boot debian to figure it out. But presumably you know already.
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2090 [20:52:23] <Foxfir3> run/user/1001/gvfs gives me: d????????? ? ? ? ?
2091 [20:52:40] <Foxfir3> permission denied, even when root
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2093 [20:53:17] <gmturner> If you just need the .ko you could probably just pull it out of the initramfs using cpio. or if you are on nonfree, something wacky like: (unxz | cpio -i; cpio-i) < initramfs beause they for some insane reason catted a compressed firmware initrd and uncompressed official initrd I think
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2095 [20:54:09] <gmturner> Yeah all fuse-mounts behave that way Foxfir3
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2097 [20:54:47] <Foxfir3> gmturner: okay. fuse-mount. hmm.. its blocking updatedb
2098 [20:55:31] <gmturner> No idea why, it's stupid imo... oh, your're root, you can just pluck all these secrets from /proc but we're gonna just make it real hard for you to watch users davfs mounts :)
2099 [20:56:25] <gmturner> Foxfir3, there is probably a fusermount option you could put on the commandline or /etc/fstab if you just undo whatever magical thing systemd did and do it all by hand
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2102 [20:58:09] <Foxfir3> okay. so the trouble begins fstab. Running a Pi4 with raspian. boot on microsd, and / on SSD. I must have messed up somewhere.
2103 [20:58:49] <gmturner> hell you could just solve it using fusermount by daisy-chaining your fusemount to a root sshfs fuse mount :P
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2106 [20:59:49] <gmturner> actually that might be the path of least resistance depending on your precise circumstances Foxfir3. How does the thing get mounted in the first place?
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2109 [21:00:07] <Foxfir3> gmturner: aaaalrighty :D I'll save that note. I have to read up on that stuff.
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2111 [21:01:52] <gmturner> just be root, open up your favorite file manager gui (unless it's dolphin -- then use your second-favorite) and type sshfs://myuseracctname@localhost/~ for the folder name and you might well get a magical solution to your magical problem.
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2117 [21:04:53] <gmturner> or I guess in your case you'd want sshfs://myuseracct@localhost/run/user/1000/media or something like that (wherever the "top secret user account-only" files are :)
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2119 [21:05:48] <gmturner> then the files will appear at /run/user/0/media or whatever corresponding place I suspect.
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2127 [21:07:54] <gmturner> alternatively mount.sshfs --help. You'll need to be able to ssh in as that user though. So if you don't have ssh all set up and ready to go that would probably make it not worth the effort. Instead just maybe find some clever nc hack for this :)
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2131 [21:09:52] <gmturner> Foxfir3 do you use some kind of overlay filesystem on that thing? That could be the root of your woes for sure.
2132 [21:10:10] <gmturner> no pun intended :)
2133 [21:10:27] <Foxfir3> saving your notes. no luck with the filemanager.
2134 [21:10:48] <Foxfir3> its just ext4.
2135 [21:10:58] <gmturner> if you're root, can you ssh into localhost as your user account?
2136 [21:12:05] <Foxfir3> i will have to set it up first. never thought of using ssh locally.
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2138 [21:12:42] <gmturner> are you familiar with how to set up authorized_keys files? without that in place you might run into some missing "hey what's the password" dialog box problem.
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2140 [21:13:38] <gmturner> if it's not a ton of files you might be better off just copying them somewhere root an access for starters and sorting out the mess once your system is working right.
2141 [21:13:40] <Foxfir3> i just use a config for my ssh keys, and yes authorized_keys.
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2143 [21:14:54] <Foxfir3> so basicsally I got some weird mount issue? and since this setup is a bit out of the ordinary, that could cause It.
2144 [21:15:11] <gmturner> ok, so as root do ssh-keygen -t [whatever your user account used], and drop the pubkey (which should have no password or keyring or anything else protecting it) into ~youruser/.ssh/authorized_keys,... which is fine, btw, it just says that as root you pwn yourself which was a given anyhow :)
2145 [21:16:21] <gmturner> Yeah, Fixfir3. have you checked /proc/mounts for head-slappers like, maybe something is mounted read-only or something wacky? This might not be fuse related, I'm assuming that but there are other plausible causes on a downlevel device
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2149 [21:17:57] <gmturner> like maybe your gizmo does some sort of super-early nonstandard pivot root trick that makes a hash of things somehow. Seen stuff like that on routers before for example, pretty annoying.
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2156 [21:19:51] <Foxfir3> just saving your notes. keygen just throws the list of options at me. strange.
2157 [21:20:23] <Foxfir3> I think you are on to something. Raspain sucks bigtime! I have no idea what kind of hacks they have done.
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2159 [21:20:44] <Foxfir3> fuse should not be involved at all
2160 [21:20:51] <gmturner> if you do "ssh-keygen -t rsa" it will probably work (at the expense of user security so maybe think about undoing it later)
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2163 [21:21:03] <gmturner> even so we can use it to fix this.
2164 [21:21:36] <gmturner> if your user has access, then we can fuse-mount your user's stuff into root's stuff and unwind the gordian knot from there.
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2166 [21:22:14] <Figure> ... efi secureboot is disabled and now only the kernel is forcing me to have signed drivers :/
2167 [21:22:47] <gmturner> There are ways to fuse-mount ext partitions though and you might want to make sure that's not what's going on. I'd sanity check /proc/mounts against my assumptions about what's going on. If it's fuse related it'll say the fs type is "fuse".
2168 [21:23:04] <gmturner> if it's a regular ext4 mount, you'll probably see the offending option somewhere in the list
2169 [21:23:30] <gmturner> in which case you could just say mount -o remount,no-stupid-option or whatever if you're lucky.
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2171 [21:24:37] <gmturner> And if there's some kind of union fs or mount-stacking occuring that will also be reflected (check it as root of course)
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2176 [21:26:55] <gmturner> lol, thats just mean Figure :P I'd take a look at the Documentation/ tree of your kernel.. I imagine there's probably some kernel command-line "just-freaking-boot-for-petes-sake" option in there :)
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2180 [21:28:01] <Foxfir3> gmturner: gvfsd-fuse /run/user/1001/gvfs fuse.gvfsd-fuse rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1001,group_id=1001 0 0
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2183 [21:28:15] <Foxfir3> gmturner: well.. something strange is going on
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2185 [21:28:28] <Figure> gmturner: it boots but I do not want to reboot I want it just to load the extra module that I just compiled
2186 [21:28:46] <Figure> any idea if one can somehow enroll custom keys to running kernel for validating modules?
2187 [21:29:01] <gmturner> aha, so it is indeed a fuse-induced problem. Unfortunately I have never figured out how to get fuse to tell you what is mounted and with with options... I'm not sure there actually is any way.
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2190 [21:29:39] <Foxfir3> gmturner: to be honest.. sounds fuse really sucks :D
2191 [21:29:44] <gmturner> it might well be that there's no standardized fuse thing equivalent to /proc/mounts for example, and each daemon can implement it's own special snowflake way of doing things
2192 [21:30:12] <Foxfir3> so its a free-for-all service?
2193 [21:30:25] <SerajewelKS> it's more likely that it's a gvfsd problem than a fuse problem
2194 [21:30:42] <Foxfir3> gvfsd?
2195 [21:30:46] <gmturner> Well at least you know fuse works on your system :) so you can likely use it to rescue yourself from your situation too using sshfs
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2197 [21:31:34] <SerajewelKS> what exactly is the issue?
2198 [21:31:34] <gmturner> It's some kind of gnome/systemd/udev automagic monster. I try not to use that stuff personally so I'm pretty ignorant about it
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2203 [21:32:31] <ctcx> Why is "tree" program never default included in Debian?
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2205 [21:33:13] <greycat> Priority: optional
2206 [21:33:21] <SerajewelKS> if everything were included by default you'd need TBs to install
2207 [21:33:41] <greycat> it's not commonly used, and it's not required for the normal operation of a system
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2209 [21:34:15] <SerajewelKS> you can accomplish a similar result with the find tool anyway: find -type d
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2211 [21:36:40] <ctcx> But that would only list directories, not files
2212 [21:36:56] <ctcx> greycat: I never imagined tree program was not commonly used...
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2214 [21:38:26] <SerajewelKS> to get files then just omit -type d
2215 [21:38:45] <gmturner> Foxfir3, fuse can actually be really amazing but the more you rely on it the more you wind up stacking kernel tasks and user-space tasks in confusing and unexpected ways and it eventually can lead to some instability. But being able to get your actual files -- as "just files" -- from dropbox or a web server without some stupid gui is pretty darn useful under the right circumstances, for example. Not
2216 [21:38:45] <gmturner> to mention get your debian live to boot from ntfs (well soon, at least, hopefully... just kidding that's a callback)
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2218 [21:38:51] <greycat> ,popcon tree
2219 [21:38:53] <judd> Popcon data for tree: inst: 26752, vote: 3418, old: 19429, recent: 3879, nofiles: 26
2220 [21:38:59] <greycat> Not hugely unpopular...
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2222 [21:39:12] <gdarko> guys, does swap depend on ram? for example i have 16GB ram and it took 16GB for swap? could it be less?
2223 [21:39:27] <gdarko> (this is new installation debian 10)
2224 [21:39:33] <SerajewelKS> gdarko: you need at least as much swap as ram in order to hibernate. otherwise, it's a judgement call.
2225 [21:39:34] <greycat> if you're on a laptop and you want to do hibernation, swap has to be >= physical RAM, as I understand things
2226 [21:40:39] <somiaj> s/has/should/ (my understanding is you need enough space to write the working ram, if you use a lot of swap along with your physical ram, you have to take that into consideration too)
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2228 [21:40:56] <somiaj> though if you don't use any of your ram...
2229 [21:41:01] <ctcx> Years ago it may have more important functions, but, nowadays, is hibernation the only thing swap is for?
2230 [21:41:37] <somiaj> ctcx: It is still nice to have, espically if you have a memeory leak (often times the speed of swaping gives you enough time to recover the system)
2231 [21:41:46] <SerajewelKS> linux still overcommits memory. swap is used when the system needs more RAM than it has; infrequently used pages are swapped to disk instead.
2232 [21:41:50] <somiaj> also gives oom killer a bit more time to kill renagade proess.
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2236 [21:42:08] <somiaj> (yea, being able to clear up space for cache also helps if that gets put on swap)
2237 [21:42:56] <nvz> I think I need to enable oomkiller on my fathers machine now that you got me thinking about it :P
2238 [21:43:09] <somiaj> hmm, I thought it was enabled by default.
2239 [21:43:57] <nvz> he leaves FF open all the time with js hungry crap, and often when he goes to sleep or leaves it tends to OOM to the point even sysrq can't help
2240 [21:43:57] <gmturner> if you've swapped your 16G of RAM out to spinning rust, you'll probably run out of patience or assume your box is dead, and hit reset, before it has the chance to swap back in and comes back to life, under load. It's still usefull for compressed ram loopback filesystems and stuff like that though
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2242 [21:44:43] <somiaj> I don't use swap on my desktop/laptop, but I have way more memory than I actually use (often am using only about 20-25% of total amount)
2243 [21:45:02] <somiaj> But just because you can get away with not needing it, it still has its use in lots of cases.
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2245 [21:46:01] <nvz> gdarko: in order to hibernate you need at least as much swap as ram
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2247 [21:47:03] <ctcx> Is there a "debian-offtopic" channel?
2248 [21:47:13] <greycat> yes
2249 [21:47:40] <ctcx> Where is that?
2250 [21:47:47] <nvz> #debian-offtopic
2251 [21:47:54] <greycat> #debian-offtopic
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2253 [21:48:36] <ctcx> Thanks
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2257 [21:49:07] <Figure> is there any repository for debian stable that would contain signed drivers?
2258 [21:49:20] <Figure> I would bee needing newer e1000e driver
2259 [21:49:35] <nvz> Figure: install a newer kernel
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2261 [21:49:46] <Figure> nvz: requires reboot
2262 [21:49:54] <nvz> not really.. but w/e
2263 [21:49:56] <greycat> ...
2264 [21:50:05] <greycat> what
2265 [21:50:47] <Figure> nvz: so how can I upgrade running kernel to different with out bootin to get newer driver?
2266 [21:50:53] <greycat> *plonk*
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2269 [21:51:40] <nvz> you enable buster-backports to install the new 5.2 kernel, that itself doesn't require any reboot.. then you install kexec and read the manual on how to load the new kernel
2270 [21:52:13] <nvz> you will have a temporary disruption because its very similar to a reboot in software anyhow, but no hardware reset ever takes place
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2272 [21:52:19] <gdarko> nvz: so even if don't use hiberante feature i still need to assign that much ram for swap?
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2274 [21:52:44] <greycat> gdarko: no.
2275 [21:52:47] <nvz> gdarko: hibernation is the only thing that requires swap at all.. if you dont want to hibernate, you don't need swap
2276 [21:53:05] <nvz> swap has other uses, but none of them are requirements
2277 [21:53:10] <greycat> if you don't plan to hibernate, use as much as you feel is appropriate for your situation, as you were advised already
2278 [21:53:18] <SerajewelKS> it would probably be useful to have 1-2GB of swap still
2279 [21:53:34] <Figure> so then it would be unsinged kernel + kexec
2280 [21:53:34] <SerajewelKS> so the kernel can kick out pages that aren't used to make room for more I/O cache
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2285 [21:58:39] <nvz> Figure: the kernel is signed
2286 [21:59:15] <nvz> ,i linux-image-5.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 --release buster-backports
2287 [21:59:16] <judd> Package linux-image-5.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 (kernel, optional) in buster-backports/amd64: Linux 5.2 for 64-bit PCs (signed). Version: 5.2.9-2~bpo10+1; Size: 47512.0k; Installed: 266876k; Homepage: replaced-url
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2289 [21:59:37] <greycat> judd, why you no list that in ,kernels
2290 [21:59:38] <judd> No package named 'you' was found in buster/amd64.
2291 [21:59:45] <greycat> ,kernels
2292 [21:59:46] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 5.3.0-rc5-686 (5.3~rc5-1~exp2); sid: 5.2.0-2-686 (5.2.9-2); buster: 4.19.0-6-686 (4.19.67-2); stretch-backports: 4.19.0-0.bpo.5-686-pae (4.19.37-5+deb10u2~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-11-686-pae (4.9.189-3); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 4.9.0-0.bpo.9-686-pae (4.9.168-1+deb9u5~deb8u1)
2293 [22:00:02] <nvz> ,v linux-image-amd64
2294 [22:00:03] <judd> Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 -- jessie: 3.16+63+deb8u2; jessie-security: 3.16+63+deb8u6; stretch-security: 4.9+80+deb9u6; stretch: 4.9+80+deb9u9; stretch-backports: 4.19+105~bpo9+1; buster: 4.19+105+deb10u1; buster-backports: 5.2+106~bpo10+1; bullseye: 5.2+106; sid: 5.2+106
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2298 [22:02:41] <somiaj> someone might need to manually add buster-backports to the list of kernels judd keeps track of
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2301 [22:04:39] <greycat> I thought something like that as well
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2304 [22:06:26] <gdarko> nvz: i thought i will have some benefit of it in bad times :) but i will disable it. Anyway for a WordPress site i already assigned 16 GB so i don't think i need more of that or additional swap.
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2306 [22:06:47] <Figure> nvz: I want to be on stable + one upgrade on one driver
2307 [22:06:57] <greycat> how on earth can wordpress need 16 GB
2308 [22:07:15] <somiaj> I'd still advocate swap on a server, better to have and not use, then need and not have
2309 [22:07:22] <gdarko> those are two busy sites greycat
2310 [22:07:36] <gdarko> i will host one vm
2311 [22:07:37] <nvz> Figure: then do it.. debian doesn't keep any special repo for drivers we have dkms packages for some things.. but afaik that driver isn't one of them
2312 [22:07:43] <somiaj> and wouldn't ram ussage depend on number of people accessing the site at once?
2313 [22:07:51] <greycat> not... really?
2314 [22:07:55] <gdarko> i don't know
2315 [22:08:04] <Figure> nvz: I was trying to liik if dkms can sign drivers or not
2316 [22:08:06] <gdarko> i don't think 16 GB will be ever used
2317 [22:08:12] <gdarko> they are using redis too
2318 [22:08:15] <greycat> typically you set a limit on the number of HTTP and PHP workers
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2320 [22:08:37] <Figure> nvz: replaced-url
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2323 [22:12:00] <nvz> Figure: I dont know for certain as I dont use secure boot, but afaik dkms is aware of such things and can do that automatically
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2326 [22:13:01] <nvz> I would imagine that if you are using a signed kernel with secure boot dkms will handle it
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2328 [22:14:32] <nvz> Figure: there is a dkms channel on the official network irc.debian.org ( irc.oftc.net ) #debian-dkms
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2332 [22:15:52] <nvz> Figure: however there are only two nicks in there from what I can see.. you may want to ping the mailing lists or such
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2334 [22:17:22] <nvz> Figure: there is also #debian-kernel on the server which has many more people in it
2335 [22:18:18] <nvz> Figure: debian-kernel@lists.debian.org
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2344 [22:24:26] <zetuno> hello. trying to mount a luks encrypted volume. `cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/mapper/foo--vg-foo foo_crypt` succeeds. I get /dev/mapper/foo_crypt, but `mount /dev/mapper/foo_crypt /foo` reports bad option, superblock, etc. error. `fdisk -l` shows a device named "/dev/mapper/foo_crypt-part1" of the size and type that I expect. however I can't see any file at /dev/mapper/foo_crypt-part1
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2350 [22:25:55] <nvz> zetuno: the crypt container in question seems to contain an LVM not a filesystem
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2353 [22:27:47] <nvz> zetuno: really you seem to be going about this all wrong but I can't say for certain as there is not remotely enough information
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2355 [22:30:13] <nvz> zetuno: you seem to be using luksOpen on an LVM
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2358 [22:30:57] <nvz> on my system /dev/sda5 is a LUKS container containing an LVM, when I open that with cryptsetup I have mountable volumes under the LVM
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2367 [22:35:24] <zetuno> hmm. lvscan doesn't show anything inside the container
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2371 [22:36:53] <nvz> idk wth you did.. only you can explain that
2372 [22:37:05] <nvz> if you wanna be vague, figure it out yourself..
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2382 [22:40:09] <GenTooMan> how can I search for a backport for buster? all that appears to be on replaced-url
2383 [22:40:31] <nvz> GenTooMan: packages.debian.org
2384 [22:40:45] <greycat> there's literally a link that says Buster right under Stretch and Stretch-sloppy
2385 [22:41:15] <nvz> and its a link to p.d.o cause its all managed in the same place now.. that stuff is outdated
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2392 [22:42:21] <annadane> replaced-url
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2395 [22:43:26] <zetuno> okay whats the correct way to create a mountable volume inside the container? do I create a partition on foo_crypt with `parted /dev/mapper/foo_crypt` commands, or do I just mkfs?
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2399 [22:45:15] <nvz> you are confusing terms
2400 [22:45:22] <GenTooMan> well I am searching for nextpnr but buster only has the much older arachne-pnr. I currently am have trouble building next-pnr so vainly I was looking to find it. Such is life or mine at least.
2401 [22:45:53] <greycat> ,v nextpnr
2402 [22:45:54] <judd> No package named 'nextpnr' was found in amd64.
2403 [22:45:56] <nvz> volumes, partitions, filesystems are three different things
2404 [22:45:57] <greycat> ,v next-pnr
2405 [22:45:58] <judd> No package named 'next-pnr' was found in amd64.
2406 [22:46:05] <greycat> you used both names but neither one is a package name apparently :(
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2408 [22:47:24] <nvz> replaced-url
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2412 [22:49:45] <nvz> near as I can tell the source hasn't even been debianized much less packaged
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2414 [22:50:31] <nvz> ah nm mahybe it has been debianized
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2420 [22:54:42] <cad_> test
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2425 [22:56:31] <nvz> idk what happened with that.. #907240 was filed, the project was put on salsa.. then just seems to have gone silent
2426 [22:56:32] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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2430 [22:57:03] <nvz> near as I can tell the author/maintainer dropped the ball
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2432 [22:57:08] <greycat> you can't have a backport of a thing that's not packaged at all yet
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2441 [22:58:33] <nvz> replaced-url
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2443 [22:59:58] <GenTooMan> The truth is a pain filled thing as I like to say. However I wondered why arachne was in the distribution instead of next because arachne stopped maintenance in December of last year I think
2444 [23:00:22] <nvz> I see no reason for it, I guess you'd have to ask Ruben himself.. he set the wheels in motion like 13mo ago and then nothing..
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2446 [23:00:57] <nvz> ,v archane-pnr
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2448 [23:00:58] <judd> No package named 'archane-pnr' was found in amd64.
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2450 [23:01:33] <greycat> you have to spell arachne correctly
2451 [23:01:33] <GenTooMan> ,v arachne-pnr
2452 [23:01:34] <judd> Package: arachne-pnr on amd64 -- stretch: 0.1+20160813git52e69ed-1; bullseye: 0.1+20180909git840bdfd-1; buster: 0.1+20180909git840bdfd-1; sid: 0.1+20180909git840bdfd-1
2453 [23:01:42] <nvz> ,v arachne-pnr
2454 [23:01:43] <judd> Package: arachne-pnr on amd64 -- stretch: 0.1+20160813git52e69ed-1; bullseye: 0.1+20180909git840bdfd-1; buster: 0.1+20180909git840bdfd-1; sid: 0.1+20180909git840bdfd-1
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2456 [23:02:01] <nvz> yes well that was in stretch
2457 [23:02:05] <nvz> !stretch
2458 [23:02:05] <dpkg> Stretch is the codename for the current <oldstable> release, Debian 9, released 2017-06-17. "Stretch" is the rubber octopus in Toy Story 3, see replaced-url
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2465 [23:02:42] <nvz> which was released in 2017
2466 [23:03:07] <nvz> and things will remain in debian as long as they continue to build and someone continues to build them
2467 [23:03:26] <nvz> we talked about this a couple days ago.. things like xmille or such.. been around forever
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2470 [23:04:13] <GenTooMan> well I was surprised to find IceStorm so I guess next-pnr has to be shoved in, without it a lot of designs kind of don't route well.
2471 [23:04:15] <nvz> were it me, and I was concerned about it I'd try contacting Ruben Undheim or the debian-electronics mailing list
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2473 [23:05:56] <cad_> saludos
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2478 [23:07:14] <nvz> cad_: hablamos ingles aqui, por ayuda en espanol usar irc.debian.org y #debian-es
2479 [23:07:37] <cad_> ok
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2484 [23:10:00] <xaeB5> i somehow never noticed that debian 10 was released
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2486 [23:10:10] <xaeB5> until i saw news of 10.1
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2488 [23:11:05] <greycat> better late than never
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2491 [23:12:09] <annadane> i think i'll start skipping x.0 anyway, give time for some bugs to be ironed out
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2493 [23:12:31] * vlt had to downgrade to 9 to fix a serious problem. Maybe 10.1 works.
2494 [23:12:38] <nvz> I'm a bit fuzzy on the debian release process anymore.. heh.. I used to think of point releases as just new images of latest security updates but now we have things actually changing versions and that is a bit fuzzy to me
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2497 [23:13:12] <xaeB5> excited to upgrade. i love debian
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2500 [23:14:12] <nvz> I was contemplating building VMs going all the way back to when amd64 was introduced in like Debian 4 just to refresh my memory on things :P
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2504 [23:14:57] <nvz> I'd only used Potato a few days before Woody came out.. and recent changes just seem a blur to me
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2508 [23:15:42] <annadane> i mean i do think some bug fixes should be a feature of point releases
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2511 [23:15:48] <xaeB5> so i have a question. i usually install ufw and use its default deny incoming, allow outgoing rule set. but i read something about nftables replacing iptables. is there a tool like ufw for nftables?
2512 [23:15:51] <annadane> not so much that it fundamentally changes upstream though
2513 [23:16:09] <annadane> there'll always be bugs in anything
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2527 [23:24:04] <GenTooMan> annadane yes bleeding edge is messy but I wanted to avoid a franken debian to get the tools I wanted.
2528 [23:24:06] <somiaj> xaeB5: nftables is partially backwards compadable with iptables, and debian's iptables should have most of this.
2529 [23:24:30] <annadane> well it's not like 10.0 is bleeding edge
2530 [23:24:38] <xaeB5> somiaj: ok
2531 [23:24:38] <somiaj> xaeB5: so you could continue using ufw with iptables that actually uses nfttables. Maybe as more distros make nftables default, more tools will evolve.
2532 [23:24:50] <xaeB5> cool
2533 [23:24:50] <annadane> 10.1 just gives you a bit of buffer to make sure stable is *really* really ready
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2537 [23:26:18] <annadane> i suppose some truly paranoid folks will wait until x.2 but i want my new stuff
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2540 [23:27:22] <somiaj> annadane: some people are still using wheezy on lts....really depends on what they are using debian for
2541 [23:27:33] <somiaj> (upgrades on production systems can take a lot of work are may not be needed)
2542 [23:27:46] <annadane> oh of course, i just mean for the casual desktop user
2543 [23:29:31] <somiaj> yea, I guess I'm just older now, but I find I upgrade my desktop once old stable is no longer supported, but my desktop works like I want it to, no need to take time to change it
2544 [23:29:41] <somiaj> but 5 years ago, it was all about the newest software.
2545 [23:30:27] <annadane> sid is also probably more stable in the not breaking sense than some linux distros so it's not like upgrading to *.0 when stable releases is a bad thing or anything
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2547 [23:33:12] <somiaj> yea, you would think the 8 months we took freezing and stablizing the release is enough, but waiting another few months just means more people and more testing
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2551 [23:35:30] <annadane> only upgrading to *.1 also probably means you've read the release notes properly :P
2552 [23:36:54] <somiaj> it could take someone that long to read them all...
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2562 [23:43:10] <annadane> it's not a bad balance. buster released on july 6 and 10.1 was on sep 7, you don't have to wait *that* long for potentially significant bug fixes the release team didn't catch
2563 [23:43:29] <annadane> still though, hard to wait for 2 years and then voluntarily put it off even more
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2565 [23:45:07] <f8e3> if digitalocean firewall is enabled inbound rule with ssh tcp 22 blocked
2566 [23:45:45] <somiaj> f8e3: is there a question there? You may want to contact digitalocean about their policies.
2567 [23:46:48] <f8e3> somiaj in general what do i have to set to allow eg a https request? do i need to allow inbound tcp too (which is layer lower) ?
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2569 [23:47:18] <f8e3> its a server deb9 and has a small http rest api on a port X
2570 [23:47:19] <somiaj> I always open both tcp and udp ports, but it really depends on what protocol is being used for communication
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2572 [23:47:27] <somiaj> someone who knows this stuff may give a better answer
2573 [23:47:29] <somiaj> (##networking might)
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2576 [23:48:40] <thexa4> https is tcp port 443
2577 [23:48:45] <thexa4> http is tcp 80
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