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• 1[00:01:14] <praxis> one that's already been released
• 2[00:01:21] <praxis> in the past
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• 11[00:05:04] <Inconveniece> is there a way to run 3 scripts at once
• 12[00:05:09] <Inconveniece> in terminal
• 13[00:05:26] <Inconveniece> with their output also showing
• 14[00:07:49] <annadane> Inconveniece, if no one answers, try #bash
• 15[00:07:54] <somiaj> in parallel would be hard, maybe use something like screen/tmux
• 16[00:07:59] <annadane> yep
• 17[00:08:05] <somiaj> in series, script1; sciprt2; script3
• 18[00:08:07] <annadane> if you just want to see output, use a terminal multiplexer
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• 21[00:08:23] <Inconveniece> yah i know screen
• 22[00:08:28] <somiaj> because running in paraellel they would jumpble their output together
• 23[00:08:32] <Inconveniece> but i want to make that into one comand
• 24[00:08:49] <somiaj> but 'script1; script2; script3' will run all three scripts in order
• 25[00:08:51] <Inconveniece> that will run these 3 dockers
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• 27[00:09:04] <somiaj> use && instead of ;, if you want the next one to only run if the first one exits sucessfully
• 28[00:09:36] <Inconveniece> these stay running
• 29[00:09:36] <somiaj> you could use & (to run in background) but now you are going to jubmple output together
• 30[00:09:37] <jordanm> script1 & script2 & script3 & wait
• 31[00:09:50] <Inconveniece> oh & will work
• 32[00:10:23] <Inconveniece> hmm maybe not
• 33[00:11:10] <Inconveniece> i think its working
• 34[00:11:11] <somiaj> well it will jumble output which may not be ideal, that is why i suggested using screen/tmux (for seperate buffers) or in series
• 35[00:11:23] <Inconveniece> jumbled is fine
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• 38[00:12:05] <nvz> Inconveniece: & makes it run in background && makes it only run the next if the first exits successfully
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• 42[00:13:05] <Inconveniece> yes i know
• 43[00:13:21] <nvz> || makes it run the next command only if the first fails
• 44[00:13:22] <Inconveniece> i use it with nohup
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• 50[00:17:31] <Inconveniece> jumbly jumbly
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• 84[00:46:35] <warsoul> replaced-url
• 85[00:47:12] <somiaj> !termbin
• 86[00:47:12] <dpkg> it has been said that termbin is you can paste to termbin.com from terminal via: cat /path/to/file | nc termbin.com 9999
• 87[00:47:24] <somiaj> hmm, termbin.com is down for me
• 88[00:47:40] <warsoul> somiaj, i was trying to do a upgrade now and this message came out
• 89[00:47:41] <somiaj> ERR_CONNECTION_CLOSED
• 90[00:48:00] <somiaj> warsoul: sorry can't help, maybe move your error to paste.debian.net (unsure why termbin.com isn't working for me, it usually does)
• 91[00:48:10] <nvz> SerajewelKS: replaced-url
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• 93[00:48:21] <nvz> erm somiaj
• 94[00:48:41] <somiaj> warsoul: apt dist-upgrade (to pull in the new kernel)
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• 96[00:48:58] <somiaj> warsoul: apt autoremove to remove the packages you don't need any longer (just make sure there is nothing in that list you need, but I don't see much)
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• 99[00:49:56] <warsoul> ok
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• 102[00:50:32] <warsoul> somiaj, im having a problem when i open the internet browser it looks very clear can see the box to type for a search etc...
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• 104[00:50:40] <warsoul> donw know how to fix it
• 105[00:51:03] <somiaj> warsoul: don't quite understand your problem, maybe share a screen shot.
• 106[00:51:13] <somiaj> also what browser? chromium, firefox-esr, or something else?
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• 108[00:51:27] <warsoul> firefox
• 109[00:51:36] <warsoul> the one that came with xfce
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• 111[00:52:13] <somiaj> maybe a bug with your profile, you could try a new account, or new profile, or just move your firefox profile (~/.mozilla/firefox) elsewhere
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• 114[00:52:58] <somiaj> but my reponse to something like that would be rebuild my profile from scratch (thinking that might fix it)
• 115[00:52:58] <warsoul> how can i share a screen shot
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• 117[00:53:08] <somiaj> a few sites like imgur.com can share images
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• 122[00:55:17] <nvz> !paste
• 123[00:55:17] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: replaced-url
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• 125[00:55:43] * nvz edited that factoid to cover text, images, or arbitrary files
• 126[00:55:49] <annadane> the one that "came with xfce" is firefox-esr
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• 129[00:56:07] <annadane> debian only packages the extended support release of firefox in debian stable, not other firefoxes
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• 131[00:56:55] <brutser> hi, if i want to have unencrypted boot partition (with signed kernel+initrd), but i need to use keyfile+header for decrypt rootfs, my idea was to put these files into initrd, but i need to encrypt them obviously and initramfs phase must decrypt them - what encryption should i use? and how would i enable these binaries for that in initramfs?
• 132[00:57:28] <brutser> like i can use openssl i suppose?
• 133[00:57:30] <warsoul> somiaj, how do i take the screentshot
• 134[00:57:31] <warsoul> ?
• 135[00:57:38] <somiaj> warsoul: the program scrot is good
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• 138[00:57:58] <somiaj> you can also do 'scrot -s' then just click the window for a smaller screen shot
• 139[00:58:01] <brutser> would you put those encrypted files into initrd, or just plain in sight on the boot partition?
• 140[00:58:04] <somiaj> you may need to install scrot.
• 141[00:58:10] <brutser> just like your opinions
• 142[00:58:34] <somiaj> brutser: what do you use to unlock the rest of your system, a passphrase? Or do you keep your keys on a usb drive that is needed at boot?
• 143[00:58:34] <nvz> prntscrn key usually takes a screenshot
• 144[00:59:06] <brutser> somiaj: the idea is that only passphrase is needed for the encrypted files
• 145[00:59:17] <brutser> i guess that's maybe not best security wise
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• 147[00:59:32] <somiaj> okay, just checking, if you were planning on having your encryption key on a usb drive anyways, makes where to store that easier.
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• 149[00:59:43] <warsoul> replaced-url
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• 151[00:59:46] <somiaj> yea, I'm not sure the best way to provide the keys for this
• 152[01:00:16] <warsoul> if you see the pictures i cant see the box to type the search for example
• 153[01:00:20] <somiaj> warsoul: I would create a new user on your system, log into that new user, run firefox-esr and see if you have this same issue
• 154[01:00:31] <brutser> somiaj: initrd needs them anyway and since there is no filesystem yet
• 155[01:00:50] <brutser> but then i need to add openssl to initramfs i guess?
• 156[01:01:29] <somiaj> I would wait for someone who is more familar with encryption than me for this.
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• 158[01:01:58] <warsoul> somiaj, can i reinstall firefox to see if the problem is fix?
• 159[01:02:29] <somiaj> warsoul: that shouldn't be an issue, if there is a problem, it is with the usres local config/profile. Hence why testing a new user is a way to verify this
• 160[01:02:42] <somiaj> if that is the case, just backup/move all the firefox config files and revert to defatults
• 161[01:03:05] <warsoul> i never touched firefox let me do the new user thing to see if it works
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• 164[01:03:25] <somiaj> what do you mean never touched firefox? It has been acting this way since you installed?
• 165[01:03:30] <warsoul> yes
• 166[01:03:41] <somiaj> that seems odd, well still test a new user
• 167[01:03:54] <warsoul> i can add it in the terminal adduser?
• 168[01:05:01] <warsoul> done
• 169[01:05:02] <warsoul> brb
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• 172[01:08:50] <warsoul> somiaj, samething on new user
• 173[01:08:51] <karlpinc> brutser: Best is to use LUKS encryption and read /usr/share/doc/cryptsetup/README.Debian.gz. I'm not sure what your real goal is though. You can "man cryptsetup" for how to use a detached header, which is where the keys are.
• 174[01:09:17] <karlpinc> brutser: What are you trying to protect against?
• 175[01:09:38] <somiaj> warsoul: what version of debian are you running?
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• 177[01:10:43] <somiaj> warsoul: also what is the output of 'firefox --version'
• 178[01:10:58] <warsoul> im running debian 10
• 179[01:11:15] <warsoul> Mozilla Firefox 60.9.0
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• 181[01:11:43] <somiaj> I am unsure what the problem is, looks almost like a gtk/theme issue, but I would think a new user would fix that too
• 182[01:12:20] <somiaj> you could try to reinstall firefox, 'apt install --reinstall firefox-esr', but I don't think that is gonna help much
• 183[01:12:41] <somiaj> you could try another browser, 'apt install chromium' then use chromium, but I really don't know what the issue could be
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• 186[01:15:07] <warsoul> samething on chromium
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• 198[01:20:24] <brutser> karlpinc: i was trying to create some form of security through obscurity (which i know is not adding much), but by detaching header and having no luks identifiable partition, i could encrypt boot partition and hide the key and header files there, but then i still have a partition that's luks identifiable
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• 201[01:21:33] <brutser> karlpinc: by signing kernel and initramfs, i can be relatively sure those files will be hard to change without the signing key <-- then i could add the encrypted security files and have initramfs phase decrypt this file and provide the decryption of the rootfs
• 202[01:21:33] <jetscreamer> hey i need to know why some internet sites are inaccessible with a fresh install of debian, with wireless. i can reach google, but not sourceforge
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• 204[01:22:18] <jetscreamer> both are accessible with windows
• 205[01:22:20] <hatter_> :jetscreamer, are you using the DNS of the gateway ?
• 206[01:22:26] <jetscreamer> same box
• 207[01:22:27] <jetscreamer> yes
• 208[01:22:30] <jetscreamer> dhcp
• 209[01:22:32] <jetscreamer> ipv6
• 210[01:22:44] <somiaj> jetscreamer: you need to define inaccessible, try to figure out what is wrong, is it dns resolution or something else.
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• 213[01:23:10] <jetscreamer> can't resolve. i'm trying to install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
• 214[01:23:17] <brutser> karlpinc: obviously this is trusting the secure boot and signing of the kernel+initrd and leaves the boot partition open for an attack, which is not desirable, but it is a setup without any luks identifiable partitions/devices
• 215[01:23:19] <jetscreamer> and it borks out
• 216[01:23:28] <jetscreamer> can't find site
• 217[01:23:29] <somiaj> what name servers do you see in /etc/resolv.conf?
• 218[01:23:38] <hatter_> try using google nameservers
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• 220[01:23:48] <hatter_> 8.8.8.8
• 221[01:23:54] <hatter_> often the modems dns don't work
• 222[01:24:04] <dvs> no, 1.1.1.1
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• 224[01:24:25] <jetscreamer> it's the same nameservers as currently, (windows)
• 225[01:24:31] <warsoul> userdel -r warcold
• 226[01:24:31] <warsoul> userdel: user warcold is currently used by process 850
• 227[01:24:34] <jetscreamer> google is 8888 iirc
• 228[01:24:50] <warsoul> how can i delete that user
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• 230[01:25:26] <jetx> gah dc
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• 236[01:28:29] <zellfaze> Is there anything I need to look out for when looking for a PCI-e Wifi card?
• 237[01:28:48] <zellfaze> I know there are some USB cards that require firmware packages installed.
• 238[01:29:07] <zellfaze> Basically, just curious what compatability looks like.
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• 245[01:30:41] <hatter_> I am trying to create an ssh passwordless key for a system where each non privileged user doesn't have a home directory and is set as /bin/false in /etc/passwd. Each user has it's own group also. How would I go about this ?
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• 248[01:33:55] <warsoul> replaced-url
• 249[01:34:13] <warsoul> i have to always type my username
• 250[01:34:19] <warsoul> is not saved?
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• 252[01:34:53] <rwp> zellfaze, I would not shy away from a USB WiFi adaptor. They work very well. The adaptors from Jacob's Parts have always worked well for me with free drivers.
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• 255[01:37:32] <rwp> hatter_, It's orphaned and unsupported now (although still works) but the replaced-url
• 256[01:37:51] <rwp> hatter_, For something newer and supported I would look for newer LDAP equivalents.
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• 258[01:40:55] <hatter_> :rwp, hmmm, thx, not sure if this is what I mean. I have one user on this system with a shell and a passwordless key to login to an offsite server. I want to backup other /var/replaced-url
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• 260[01:41:54] <zellfaze> rwp: I have a USB adapter right now, but I need something that I can attach an antenna to.
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• 262[01:42:35] <zellfaze> I have an rtl8188eufw right now.
• 263[01:43:42] <BCMM> zellfaze: don't buy a card if you can't find out what chipset it uses basically
• 264[01:43:50] <hatter_> su hatter -c 'tar zcvf - /var/replaced-url
• 265[01:44:31] <hatter_> I want to do the above command, but as the owner of the website so it has permissions, but to also use a passwordless key to get to the offsite server
• 266[01:44:33] <BCMM> zellfaze: as a general rule, drivers that are part of the kernel tree are usually very stable. other drivers are of more variable quality.
• 267[01:44:34] <dvs> BCMM, that is a really hard thing to find out. Even adaptors with the same model number changes chipsets.
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• 270[01:46:41] <brutser> warsoul: that's lightdm you have installed right?
• 271[01:47:13] <warsoul> brutser whats that?
• 272[01:47:48] <brutser> warsoul: that's the display manager on your system
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• 274[01:47:52] <brutser> most likely
• 275[01:47:54] <zellfaze> It is one of a few applications that can handle that login screen.
• 276[01:48:03] <warsoul> brutser how can i check that?
• 277[01:48:03] <zellfaze> Looks like lightdm to me also.
• 278[01:48:05] <brutser> you need to go to /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
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• 281[01:48:18] <brutser> that's the configuration file for that
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• 283[01:49:28] <zellfaze> rwp: BCMM: dvs: Thank you guys for your help. I think I am going to try to get a WIE9260, it looks like it uses an Intel AC9260 internally and that seems well enough supported.
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• 285[01:49:29] <brutser> the setting you want to add/change is: greeter-hide-users=false
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• 288[01:50:49] <brutser> warsoul: if not sure, just search that on google and you will find plenty of examples how to do that, it's lightdm and greeter-hide-users in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
• 289[01:50:59] <hatter_> Is there anything insecure about doing it this way ? : tar zcvf - /var/replaced-url
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• 291[01:51:31] <warsoul> brutser, #greeter-hide-users=false
• 292[01:51:34] <warsoul> i have it like that
• 293[01:51:47] <brutser> yes uncomment that line
• 294[01:52:03] <brutser> uncomment means, remove the "#" sign in front of the line
• 295[01:52:19] <hatter_> where do I configure what the key can do at the other end ?
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• 313[02:07:07] <Led_Zeppelin> Where can I read more about snapshots versus backups?
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• 397[03:24:31] <karlpinc> brutser: Put all of /boot on usb, encrypt your rootfs (etc.) with LUKS and use a detached header that's kept on usb, boot off of usb and be done with it. Hiding the fact that the root fs is LUKS buys you very little. Keep the USB stick and the rest of the box separate (except when booting) and you can lose either one and stay secure. (I don't think the kernel needs /boot for anything to run, does it?)
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• 400[03:26:15] <karlpinc> brutser: Unmount /boot and put the stick in your pocket after booting.
• 401[03:26:18] <brutser> karlpinc: no, except when updating you need to have it mounted, in case kernel or initrd has updates
• 402[03:26:25] <karlpinc> brutser: Sure.
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• 405[03:27:53] <brutser> karlpinc: i still might want to continue to try this option with initrd, at least gives me some insight on how to do such things, but i guess you are right, there are simpler and better solutions
• 406[03:28:23] <karlpinc> brutser: There's hooks in the initrd you can fuss with. (Again, I think there's good stuff in the readme.debian.)
• 407[03:28:45] <brutser> yes i already found some, already added keyfiles to initrd, that works fine
• 408[03:29:38] <brutser> just now trying to find out how to encrypt them and more importantly, decrypt at the initramfs phase (so i need openssl support, or gpg at this phase)
• 409[03:29:42] <karlpinc> brutser: Again, it all depends on your threat model. But if you're worried about being kidnapped then they'll probably torture out of you everything they need to know anyway.
• 410[03:31:05] <brutser> karlpinc: yes i understand, but by playing with these options, at least i know better what my options are - not saying it will improve security much, as you rightly say, they just have to be ready with a gun and initrd is the last thing i think about :)
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• 412[03:34:54] <brutser> karlpinc: see PM for image example
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• 414[03:35:09] <brutser> karlpinc: so basically the external bootloader only boot the signed kernel+initrd
• 415[03:35:34] <brutser> rootfs is encrypted, but no signature of luks, just a partition with random data (i know, that's no plausible deniability)
• 416[03:35:53] <brutser> that idea is not bad, is it?
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• 419[03:37:53] <brutser> karlpinc: the luks.tar.enc is added to the initrd and openssl support is also added to it (i still need figure out how to do that part)
• 420[03:38:16] <brutser> anyway, it's just some idea, trying to get that to work, i am sure it will have some security weaknesses
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• 434[03:53:20] <hatter_> Could somebody please point me in the direction to get this : tar zcvf - /var/replaced-url
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• 543[05:36:15] <annadane> is there any resource that describes the orig.tar.xz and debian.tar.xz when downloading the source from packages?
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• 545[05:42:55] <jh001_> annadane: hi, your verbs have me tilted a bit. can you ask your question a different way or add some (more) context?
• 546[05:44:28] <dvs> jh001_, annadane just wants an explanation of that the orig and debian tar files are.
• 547[05:44:31] <annadane> jh001_, sure, so if you go to debian's website and browse to a package, the links on the sidebar (or if you "apt source <package>") have a foo.orig.tar.xz and foo.debian.tar.xz. i presume orig is the regular source, the debian.tar.xz are debian patches
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• 549[05:45:04] <annadane> i can't think of another explanation really, i guess i'm answering my own question
• 550[05:45:25] <Unit193> .orig.tar.<ext> is the upstream tarball, .debian.tar.xz is the debian/ packaging directory.
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• 554[05:53:42] <annadane> right, i see that now
• 555[05:53:48] <annadane> debian.tar.xz also has a Patches section
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• 613[06:50:42] <Time-Warp> everyone i have breaking news
• 614[06:50:55] <Time-Warp> i found a Debian logo in my soup
• 615[06:51:17] <Time-Warp> replaced-url
• 616[06:51:55] <diogenes_> looks like a worm to me :)
• 617[06:52:02] <Time-Warp> i dont know what this is
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• 637[07:05:04] <annadane> do you have unstable in your sources.list? this is a frankensoup
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• 648[07:16:38] <toker> Hi!, Anyone else having 'high memory usage' on Debian 10 (server without gui)? 1GB Ram gets full in ca 1 day, then server OOM-killer starts to work
• 649[07:17:13] <toker> Only one small daemon running per server, was working fine in Debian 9
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• 652[07:18:02] <Mo7Qt0> Hi Which service/daemon?
• 653[07:18:25] <toker> On one server its ngircd, on another its syslog-ng, nothing fancy at all
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• 656[07:19:12] <toker> Raised memory to 2 gb now, will probably crash in 2 days instead
• 657[07:19:25] <toker> (By the looks of monitor-system)
• 658[07:20:08] <toker> SLAB memory seems to be eating a lot, as it probably should, but please return some when needed =)
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• 660[07:21:26] <toker> I tried my best google-foo, but can't find anything about it, which is strange, surely a lot of servers must be running buster now
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• 662[07:22:41] <Mo7Qt0> You probably saw something unusual in journalctl -b -0 (from the beginning to the current time)? Or in /var /log/ messages?
• 663[07:25:10] <toker> Mo7Qt0: No, nothing at all, except 'bash invoked oom-killer:'
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• 667[07:26:28] <Mo7Qt0> Packages installed from debian repository?
• 668[07:26:33] <Unit193> I would say something is certainly wonky with your system, I have a headless box that's been up for 8 days with znc, bind9, dnsdist, a couple irssi, charybdis, and a few other things. It's idling at ~400M usage.
• 669[07:26:58] <toker> Mo7Qt0: Yep, packages from standard buster repo
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• 671[07:27:56] <toker> Unit193: You are running Deb 10?
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• 674[07:29:15] <Unit193> toker: Well that one is technically 11..
• 675[07:29:30] <Mo7Qt0> toker: maybe u need upgrade system to 10.1 with apt-get dist-upgrade and this solve u problem?..)))
• 676[07:30:00] <toker> Unit193: so not running 4.19 kernel?
• 677[07:30:14] <toker> Mo7Qt0: OFC its already upgraded to 10.1 =)
• 678[07:30:49] <Unit193> toker: No, when I had buster I had to avoid 4.19 as it caused issues for me. I jumped to 5.0 trunk (from experimental) then something else finally became available.
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• 680[07:30:54] <toker> I suspect some kind of memory leak here
• 681[07:31:54] <toker> But one would THINK that somebody else would have found it, Buster has been out for a while now
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• 710[08:03:49] <pzanco> help
• 711[08:05:09] * aypea[1] rolls a white snooker ball to pzanco.
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• 713[08:05:41] <annadane> !ask
• 714[08:05:42] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
• 715[08:05:43] <annadane> pzanco, ^
• 716[08:05:45] <ZaZaGX> hello
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• 779[08:58:46] <BrainWork> im a little scared and concerned. my dedicated server is performing an upgrade from debian 9 to debian 10, and all i did was "apt-get upgrade"
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• 783[08:59:25] <BrainWork> is this a new feature of apt, to be able to safely dist-upgrade on the fly?
• 784[08:59:43] <BrainWork> or has my hosting provider done something odd with the default apt config in their image?
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• 787[09:00:23] <toker> BrainWork: run cat /etc/apt/sources.list
• 788[09:00:36] <toker> does is say buster or stretch?
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• 790[09:01:39] <toker> or perhaps it just says stable
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• 792[09:01:58] <toker> deb9 example: deb replaced-url
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• 794[09:02:51] <BrainWork> stable, and stable-updates
• 795[09:02:59] <Unit193> That'd explain it...
• 796[09:03:01] <toker> BrainWork: there is you problem
• 797[09:03:02] <toker> =)
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• 804[09:08:33] <jusss> debian's default DE is xfce?
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• 811[09:10:05] <ratrace> jusss: no, gnome
• 812[09:10:08] <BrainWork> well toker on the plus side everything seems to have updated ok, fail2ban had a million changed conflicting configs
• 813[09:10:30] <ratrace> jusss: if by default you mean what gets installed when you select desktop task but no DE in specific.
• 814[09:10:33] <jusss> ratrace: replaced-url
• 815[09:10:52] <jusss> there's xfce
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• 821[09:14:01] <ratrace> jusss: there's iso with xfce yes. that's orthogonal to your question of "default DE".
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• 890[10:02:53] <]BFG[> is sysVinit removed already in debian 10 or the init scripts are still usable?
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• 892[10:03:29] <Unit193> For the most part still usable.
• 893[10:04:59] <jelly> ,f sbin/init
• 894[10:06:00] <jelly> ,file sbin/init
• 895[10:06:05] <judd> Search for sbin/init in buster/amd64: runit-init: sbin/init; sysvinit-core: sbin/init; systemd-sysv: sbin/init
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• 931[10:36:29] <StyXman> I have a new BT speaker to which i can connect with my phone but not my computer. the computer does not see it at all, it seems
• 932[10:37:04] <dunz0r> StyXman: Did you put the speaker in pairing mode?
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• 938[10:46:23] <StyXman> of course
• 939[10:48:26] <nvz> different speakers work differently some can pair to more than one device, some have a special pairing mode, others just are ready to pair anytime they are turned on and not already paired with another device
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• 941[10:48:56] <nvz> would be a good idea if the speaker doesnt support mutilple connections to turn off bluetooth on the phone to make sure its not already connected to something
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• 943[10:49:52] <nvz> blueman can be a bit wonky at times, there are lower level commands to troubleshoot if searching with blueman doesnt help
• 944[10:50:26] <nvz> replaced-url
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• 953[10:55:51] <StyXman> well, pairing and connecting seem to be different things
• 954[10:56:09] <StyXman> I already paired two devices to this speaker
• 955[10:56:38] <nvz> yes pairing and connecting are two different things but if a device is paired most systems will connect to it automatically especially mobile systems
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• 957[10:57:05] <nvz> if the bluetooth is turned on and in range of a paired device it'll connect to it at which point another device cannot discover/pair/connect in most cases
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• 960[10:57:37] <nvz> I had a JBL Charge4 that could actually be connected to two devices at once, if one plays it pauses the other
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• 963[10:58:15] <nvz> where a cheaper polaroid speaker I have can only be used in any way by one device at a time and if nothing is connected it automatically goes into pairing mode
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• 965[10:59:57] <nvz> the pairing is more a discovery and identification process.. it must be done first to allow the devices to connect
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• 967[11:00:32] <nvz> in some cases there is even an authentication that takes place when pairing
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• 972[11:01:48] <istri> Hello everyone.
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• 975[11:02:34] <istri> It has been sometime since I've installed debian from scratch. I was messing around with the manual partitioner in the installer, specifically related to encryption.
• 976[11:02:46] <StyXman> all other BT devices are off right now
• 977[11:03:02] <StyXman> I just put it in pairing mode, but scanning takes ages and no results
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• 980[11:03:21] <istri> I noticed an option that specifies: passphrase, or random keyfile. I am assuming this random keyfile is similar to the one used when decrypting swap on boot, but i may be wrong in this assumption
• 981[11:03:31] <istri> could someone offer a better description of what this feature is for.
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• 986[11:04:38] <istri> In brief: I want full disk encryption using a keyfile, no password. I would prefer setting the keyfile without ever setting a passphrase. I am well aware i can install with a passphrase, and than later attach the keyfile, detach the passphrase but i would like to remove these additoinal steps for several reasons.
• 987[11:04:43] <StyXman> I can the neighbor's TV, but not the speaker 20cm away
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• 1000[11:11:31] <julius_> hi
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• 1007[11:16:40] <ayew> bye
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• 1015[11:24:26] <nvz> StyXman: can you paste the output of hciconfig -a;for i in dev con scan;do hcitool $i;done
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• 1017[11:25:36] <nvz> I couldnt for the life of me figure out how to get the output of hcitool scan into termbin or I'd have just given a full command that'd produce a paste
• 1018[11:26:05] <nvz> seems like termbin returns before hcitool ever finishes scanning no matter what I do and even with 2>&1 it doesnt ever show any of the output
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• 1033[11:36:50] <jetscreamer> what's a good description for 'stock debian install borks ipv6 dns out, but only for some sites' to feed dpkg
• 1034[11:36:59] <jetscreamer> dpkg, what's a good description for 'stock debian install borks ipv6 dns out, but only for some sites' to feed dpkg
• 1035[11:37:00] <dpkg> You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, jetscreamer
• 1036[11:37:12] <jetscreamer> \o/
• 1037[11:37:16] <jetscreamer> !botsnack
• 1038[11:37:16] <dpkg> thanks, jetscreamer
• 1039[11:37:42] <nvz> !wayttd jetscreamer
• 1040[11:37:43] <dpkg> What Are You Trying To Do, jetscreamer?
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• 1043[11:38:41] <jetscreamer> figure out a good name for a dpkg factoid
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• 1045[11:39:30] <jetscreamer> earlier i was wondering why dns borks out but only for some sites. was installing ttf-mscorefonts-installer and it borked
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• 1047[11:39:55] <nvz> <jetscreamers imaginary problem> perhaps ? :P
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• 1049[11:40:01] <jetx> so i changed to inet instead of inet6. worked flawlessly
• 1050[11:40:23] <jetx> damn i seem to dc from irc a lot.
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• 1052[11:40:39] <nvz> yeah, sounds like you have issues on your network
• 1053[11:40:54] <nvz> before you go making factoids on issues they should be confirmed
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• 1055[11:41:17] <jetx> except the 'same dual boot box works fine in windows' thing.
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• 1058[11:41:41] <nvz> considering you speak of a problem I've never seen or heard of, and also are having issues staying on IRC, I have to doubt you
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• 1060[11:42:05] <jetx> i can reproduce
• 1061[11:42:08] <jetx> it
• 1062[11:42:09] <nvz> the "works in windows" only further hurts your credibility on the matter as far as I'm concerned
• 1063[11:42:15] <jetx> yeah yeah
• 1064[11:42:26] <jetx> let's ignore the data
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• 1066[11:42:39] <nvz> of course you can.. a pebcak can always be reproduced if one doesnt replace the user and bang head off keyboard to continue
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• 1069[11:43:33] <jetx> did i mention the fresh stock debian install?
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• 1071[11:43:53] <jetx> wait
• 1072[11:43:59] <jetx> wrong channel
• 1073[11:44:04] <jetx> i need testing :o
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• 1076[11:44:40] <humpled> i've had wifi cards before that were supposed to do ipv6 but were actually pretty flaky, ended up just using 4
• 1077[11:44:47] <humpled> think that's what windows does too
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• 1079[11:45:06] <jetx> stable worked ok but i don't think i installed the fonts or tried to access sourceforg
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• 1081[11:45:07] <jetx> e
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• 1085[11:46:28] <jetx> and it's only 'some' sites, which was weird
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• 1118[12:10:24] <toruvinn> is anyone familiar with the (apt-get) upgrade process? i mean, there are some triggers that cause initramfs/grub2 to be updated/reinstalled. is there one script that is launched when this happens? what im thinking is adding remounting my EFI partition, because i have multiple OSes and i prefer to have EFI mounted ro (in case i suspend 2 disk and boot another OS)
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• 1147[12:33:29] <julius_> hi
• 1148[12:33:36] <julius_> what is this telling me: replaced-url
• 1149[12:33:57] <julius_> i tried to remove libssl1.0.0 but that would remove half of the system
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• 1153[12:35:13] <colo-work> julius_, 1.) that you should be asking in #ubuntu, not in #debian - 2.) that you probably fubared your sources.list / configured repositories
• 1154[12:35:14] <bolt> "echo 'ibase=10;obase=2;10' | bc" gives me 1010. Why doesn't "echo 'ibase=2;obase=10;1010' | bc" give me 10?
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• 1157[12:36:23] <colo-work> bolt, maybe a matter of precedence. this seems to work: echo 'obase=10;ibase=2;1010' | bc
• 1158[12:37:03] <bolt> colo-work: strange...
• 1159[12:37:31] <bolt> colo-work: seems you're right. thanks :)
• 1160[12:37:33] <colo-work> bolt, not really, imo. I guess that ibase also defines which base the input to obase is interpreted in :
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• 1163[12:39:20] <Haohmaru> mehbuntu
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• 1188[12:53:29] <uio> Hi, is it possible to see how much data I have used on my Debian machine since X date?
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• 1191[12:56:02] <BCMM> uio: as in, total data transferred over network interfaces?
• 1192[12:56:49] <uio> BCMM, Yes: I share the network with a neighbour and would like to know how much I've used.
• 1193[12:57:20] <BCMM> there are packages you can install to log that sort of thing, but i don't think you can find out retroactively
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• 1196[12:57:31] <BCMM> (except for total usage since last boot)
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• 1199[12:58:21] <uio> BCMM, Ah. What one would tell me since last boot? ntop?
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• 1202[12:58:45] <BCMM> uio: plain old ifconfig will tell you that
• 1203[12:58:46] <uio> oh ntop is not it repos.
• 1204[12:58:52] <BCMM> RX and TX bytes
• 1205[12:59:02] <uio> BCMM, Cool. I'll have to look that up.
• 1206[12:59:47] <uio> BCMM, What are RX and TX?
• 1207[13:00:02] <uio> Received and trasnferred?
• 1208[13:00:04] <Habbie> yes
• 1209[13:00:06] <shtrb> yes
• 1210[13:00:08] <Habbie> transmitted i'd say
• 1211[13:00:14] <BCMM> uio: received and transmitted
• 1212[13:00:23] <BCMM> downstream/upstream in other words
• 1213[13:00:37] <uio> Cool. And I'd imagine both count in the calculation of one's total 'data' use?
• 1214[13:00:51] <BCMM> uio: ask your ISP...
• 1215[13:00:51] <shtrb> no
• 1216[13:01:04] <uio> In one hour I'm at about 300M
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• 1218[13:01:17] <uio> shtrb, Ah? Only RX?
• 1219[13:01:20] <shtrb> no
• 1220[13:01:21] <BCMM> uio: of course you can't guarantee that every packet you sent or received went to the internet. for example, if you have a NAS on your LAN, that traffic will still get counted
• 1221[13:01:22] <humpled> nload also shows totals as well as current
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• 1224[13:02:01] <uio> shtrb, TX?
• 1225[13:02:10] <uio> shtrb, Trex?
• 1226[13:02:15] <shtrb> You are using some type of a protocol , that will add an overhead for each packet. different ISP will calculate differently.
• 1227[13:02:20] <BCMM> uio: TX is "transmit"
• 1228[13:02:33] <humpled> domestic routers usually show their usage since last reboot
• 1229[13:02:34] <shtrb> You can assume Coef x (RX + TX )
• 1230[13:02:42] <uio> shtrb, But it gives an approximate, or a maximum I'd imagine?
• 1231[13:02:54] <uio> IRC is eating up the Gs!
• 1232[13:02:57] <uio> lol
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• 1234[13:03:24] <humpled> unlikely
• 1235[13:03:41] <shtrb> You have some other stuff, NTP (in the background) , daily windows update , daily apt updates, daily e-mail id update
• 1236[13:04:24] <shtrb> uio, as BCMM said call your ISP to know how they bill you
• 1237[13:04:26] <uio> Do any of you (!anyone) use a wifi usb key for 3/4G networks?
• 1238[13:04:32] <shtrb> I do
• 1239[13:04:45] <uio> shtrb, I share with a neighbour - it's their account.
• 1240[13:04:49] <uio> shtrb, What do you use?
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• 1242[13:05:00] <shtrb> uio also ##networking will give so much more help in networking , ISP related stuff
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• 1244[13:05:16] <uio> shtrb, Thanks for the channel link!
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• 1247[13:05:48] <uio> Could there be firmware issues with some hardware here?
• 1248[13:06:26] <shtrb> uio , I have several sticks (MA180, several huawei ones)
• 1249[13:07:04] <shtrb> all is possible , but if you are using WiFi + 4G you are bound to have overhead. also ##networking
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• 1252[13:09:35] <uio> shtrb, lol - they use paste.debian. Is there Windows support in that channel or is it a Debian fief?
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• 1254[13:11:17] <shtrb> ##networking channel as it's name hint deal with networking issues, your questions seem to be related to network related questions.
• 1255[13:12:08] <uio> shtrb, They are indeed networking quesitons. And it's the right channel. I just thought it was funny that they use paste.debian!
• 1256[13:12:11] <uio> :)
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• 1306[13:49:47] <snooky> moin
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• 1319[14:06:05] <nulleip> this is still open? replaced-url
• 1320[14:06:06] <judd> Bug replaced-url
• 1321[14:06:43] <nulleip> I'm getting a lot of iotop errors due to this
• 1322[14:07:18] <nulleip> Don't know if this is really a python bug or iotop package...
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• 1324[14:07:33] <colo-work> yay for python 3? 8)
• 1325[14:07:58] <nulleip> I think iotop should treat the exception anyways...
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• 1328[14:12:29] <shtrb> Why /etc/docker/key.json is not being removed (if it's auto generated on each installation ) ?
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• 1424[15:42:25] <embden> hello, I added ALWAYS_SET_PATH and now when I try to add a user to sudoers I have an error message: configuration error - unknown item 'ALWAYS_SET_PATH' (notify administrator)
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• 1426[15:42:45] <embden> How can I add a user to sudoers?
• 1427[15:42:54] <greycat> Just ignore that warning.
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• 1429[15:43:59] <embden> ok
• 1430[15:44:08] <aypea[1]> damn. something is messing with my mouse accel/thresh values something severe
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• 1435[15:46:46] <bouba> hi, anyone had installed "archer t2uh" wifi driver?
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• 1447[15:56:10] <Akuw> i am trying to copy a lot of files getting a list from remote server
• 1448[15:56:12] <Akuw> replaced-url
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• 1450[15:56:37] <Akuw> got Permission denied
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• 1453[15:57:12] <openface> how can i mount openbsd under debian i have write/read support in kernel custom kern 5.x
• 1454[15:57:21] <openface> for ufs/ufs2
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• 1459[15:59:35] <jelly> Akuw: can you isolate one specific command that gets the error, preferably without the password wrapper?
• 1460[16:01:04] <dunz0r> Akuw: Just use an ssh-key instead. ssh-copy-id root@yourserver and be done with it :)
• 1461[16:01:28] <Akuw> jelly: yes
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• 1465[16:02:50] <Akuw> replaced-url
• 1466[16:03:31] <r3m1> what would happen if I rsyslog files and not restart rsyslog ? Does the system keeps all messages in memory ? will it eventually crash ?
• 1467[16:03:34] <Akuw> if i echo "$File" i can see the list of paths, that is ok
• 1468[16:04:17] <Akuw> but, when try to scp i got Permission denied for every file that i try to copy
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• 1470[16:04:41] <greycat> r3m1: what does "if I rsyslog files" mean?
• 1471[16:05:12] <r3m1> if I *delete* files
• 1472[16:05:26] <r3m1> if I delete /var/log/syslog for example
• 1473[16:05:41] <greycat> The files remain on disk as long as rsyslog remains running. They continue taking up space. You just won't be able to read them, at least not easily.
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• 1475[16:06:11] <greycat> rsyslog will continue writing to them, so they could even grow.
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• 1479[16:07:53] <tonsofpcs> Hi all, setting up some software that requires PHP 5.5, 5.6, or 7.0, will explicitly not work on 7.1.0 or newer. Just spun up a VM with buster to run it ... is there a way to install old php on buster?
• 1480[16:08:11] <r3m1> omg they do ? so you might be in the situation where you can see the file using ls but it is here and growing, until you restart rsyslog and then it will be eventually recreated from scrtach, correct ?
• 1481[16:08:36] <r3m1> i mean recreated from an empty file if you previously deleted the file manually
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• 1486[16:09:33] <jelly> Akuw: can you hardcode one value for $File and reproduce?
• 1487[16:10:09] <jelly> Akuw: maybe your user really does not have relevant permissions? Do you have remote shell access to check?
• 1488[16:10:27] <Akuw> yes
• 1489[16:10:38] <Akuw> i can copy
• 1490[16:11:00] <Akuw> what i need to to read file get all paths and scp that files
• 1491[16:11:06] <Akuw> using scp i can copy
• 1492[16:11:09] <greycat> r3m1: yes, "df" will report very little space left but "du" and "ls" cannot find the files. This happens a lot.
• 1493[16:11:11] <Akuw> the problem is in script
• 1494[16:13:24] <jelly> Akuw: "$filelist" will contain all the output of the command. for File in "$filelist" will pass the whole output into File, That won't work.
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• 1499[16:14:22] <Akuw> then i better to use an array
• 1500[16:14:24] <Akuw> ?
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• 1502[16:14:45] <jelly> Akuw: the safe thing to do is separate filenames with \0 and use appropriate measures. If greycat saw your script he'd get hives.
• 1503[16:15:09] <jelly> yes it's better to use an array.
• 1504[16:15:16] <Akuw> let me change
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• 1506[16:16:55] <jelly> Akuw: can you use sftp instead of scp?
• 1507[16:17:08] <Akuw> why?
• 1508[16:17:50] <jelly> Akuw: you could mount the remote / with sshfs and do everything locally
• 1509[16:18:17] <Akuw> hummm
• 1510[16:18:41] <jelly> including log parsing, but even if you decide to do that remote, it'd still be easier to create a file list and rsync two local directories.
• 1511[16:19:15] <jelly> if you have rsync installed remotely, using that would be performance-sanest option
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• 1513[16:19:56] <Akuw> but i have to copy only file in the list
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• 1515[16:20:17] <Akuw> the good part about mount is i dont need to ssh login again and again
• 1516[16:20:19] <jelly> Akuw: you can still create a file list, and tell rsync to only copy those.
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• 1518[16:20:21] <Akuw> but...
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• 1520[16:20:35] <Akuw> i have to copy from 15 hosts
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• 1522[16:21:13] <jelly> and you can avoid ssh login again and again by using ssh control socket and persist connections.
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• 1524[16:22:15] <jelly> man ssh_config, man ssh, look at ControlMaster and around it
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• 1527[16:25:01] <BCMM> the best thing about shared ssh connections is rsync tab completion just working instantly
• 1528[16:25:09] <Akuw> fuse: unknown option `defer_permissions'
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• 1530[16:26:58] <Akuw> has that kind of connection some overload to hosts i am connecting too ?
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• 1545[16:37:59] <Akuw> ok
• 1546[16:38:05] <Akuw> all mounted
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• 1550[16:39:51] <BCMM> Akuw: if anything, shared ssh connections reduce load on the server
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• 1552[16:40:20] <BCMM> making a lot of new ssh connections means spending a fair bit of cpu on handshaking
• 1553[16:40:34] <Akuw> ok
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• 1682[18:17:00] <Akuw> to copy files using rsync i have to use --file-from=list ?
• 1683[18:17:17] <Akuw> rsync -a --files-from=lista dir2
• 1684[18:17:24] <Akuw> but is not working
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• 1688[18:17:48] <scwizard> in what manner is it not working?
• 1689[18:18:27] <scwizard> are you getting an error message? are files being copied that are not on the files list? or are files on the files list not being copied?
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• 1693[18:20:02] <ratrace> Akuw: you still need the source directory for transfer, the list is relative to it
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• 1695[18:21:27] <Akuw> yes i saw
• 1696[18:21:29] <Akuw> thanks
• 1697[18:21:47] <Akuw> but if lista file has a complete path?
• 1698[18:22:17] <ratrace> Akuw: leading slashes are removed. it's relative to srcdir always
• 1699[18:22:58] <Akuw> for example /home/file/image/77/_IM01p12019091009261801E8CF77PPD.jpg
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• 1701[18:23:05] <Akuw> will copy file
• 1702[18:23:07] <Akuw> ?
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• 1704[18:23:24] <greycat> if you WANT it to be treated like an absolute path, make the srcdir be /
• 1705[18:23:26] <ratrace> Akuw: it'll look for ${SRCDIR}/home/file/....
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• 1712[18:27:34] <Akuw> something is happening with mounted ssh
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• 1714[18:28:10] <Akuw> when i try to list cursor stay there no list
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• 1718[18:30:12] <Akuw> i can list /media/user/
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• 1776[19:09:37] <toker> Sooo....anyone else having problem with memory leak in Debian 10?
• 1777[19:10:17] <toker> I see a lot of 'slab' memory that just fills all ram
• 1778[19:10:57] <toker> 1GB gets full in less than 1 day, surely someone else must see this problem too?
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• 1784[19:15:00] <ratrace> toker: nope
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• 1788[19:16:11] <toker> ratrace: do you have monitoring of slab memory?
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• 1791[19:16:20] <ratrace> toker: slab_cache, yes
• 1792[19:16:28] <ratrace> standard munin memory plugin
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• 1794[19:16:59] <toker> ok, I use check_mk agent here, and its just getting more and more filled, until server crash
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• 1796[19:17:19] <toker> replaced-url
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• 1798[19:17:40] <toker> I'm not sure its the same, but memory is leaking
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• 1800[19:17:51] <ratrace> toker: is your a VM too?
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• 1802[19:18:04] <toker> yes, but not kvm, esxi 6.7 here
• 1803[19:18:18] <ratrace> ah. I don't have any VMs, all baremetal servers.
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• 1805[19:18:33] <greycat> !listkeys slab
• 1806[19:18:34] <dpkg> Factoid search of 'slab' by key returned no results.
• 1807[19:18:37] <ratrace> wait, I have one, but no monitoring there. lemme check
• 1808[19:18:43] <toker> ratrace: how long uptime on your servers?
• 1809[19:19:14] <toker> This problem came when I reinstalled with deb10 instead of deb9 btw, and no upgrade, just clean install
• 1810[19:19:14] <ratrace> toker: rebooted just yesterday for 10.1 :) but graphing goes two years back, and includes stretch->buster upgrade
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• 1812[19:19:30] <ratrace> okay, in the KVM VM, nothing weird in /proc/meminfo
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• 1814[19:20:36] <toker> ratrace: how big is Slab in meminfo?
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• 1816[19:21:23] <toker> One of my vms: uptime 1 day 10:04: Memory Slab: 1656436 kB, SUnreclaim: 1329508 kB
• 1817[19:21:37] <ratrace> toker: 1-2GB on the production machines
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• 1820[19:24:54] <toker> ratrace: ok, so strange that no one else has this problem, Buster has been out a while now
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• 1823[19:27:28] <jhutchins_wk> what package is meminfo in?
• 1824[19:27:48] <greycat> you've been here long enough to know how to find that out
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• 1831[19:35:03] <uio> jhutchins_wk, I might be totally wrong, but I think it's in libsys-meminfo-perl.
• 1832[19:35:04] <jhutchins_wk> I see that it's not a command but a file.
• 1833[19:35:15] <uio> jhutchins_wk, replaced-url
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• 1838[19:36:08] <greycat> well, that's a perl module, not a shell command
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• 1841[19:37:28] <uio> jhutchins_wk, From what I can see in Synaptic, that's the only Buster package that contains 'meminfo'.
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• 1848[19:40:46] <jhutchins_wk> cat.
• 1849[19:40:53] <jhutchins_wk> cat /proc/meminfo
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• 1851[19:41:51] <greycat> ... of course it doesn't have a man page, that would be too useful
• 1852[19:42:10] <greycat> ah, there's a section in proc(5)
• 1853[19:42:31] <jhutchins_wk> Seems fairly self-explanitory.
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• 1855[19:42:52] <greycat> right, "SUnreclaim" is so obvious
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• 1857[19:44:25] <greycat> even more interesting: slabinfo(5) documents /proc/slabinfo but it seems /proc/meminfo didn't deserve its own page
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• 1867[19:51:07] <Akuw> i just finish ssh mounted
• 1868[19:51:17] <SerajewelKS> recommendations for server monitoring systems that work well with debian? i've used zabbix before, works fine, setup is kind of a bitch and it's fairly arcane when it comes to adding metrics.
• 1869[19:51:53] <ratrace> SerajewelKS: been using Munin for many many many years
• 1870[19:51:55] <michalrus> Hi, can you tell me why when I run `date` on Debian 10, I’m getting 12-hour AM/PM, and on Debian 8, 24h? Both have Etc/UTC as their timezone.
• 1871[19:51:57] <Akuw> but path is /home/dir/00/img1.jpg /home/dir/AA/img32.jpg
• 1872[19:52:05] <michalrus> And how to get rid of 12 h clock?
• 1873[19:52:09] <Akuw> so what i have to specify to rsync?
• 1874[19:52:25] <ratrace> Akuw: your question is unclear
• 1875[19:52:35] <greycat> michalrus: you're in en_US.utf8 ?
• 1876[19:53:12] <michalrus> greycat: yes, both machines return the same thing in `locale`
• 1877[19:53:24] <Akuw> i am using this rsync -av --files-from=/home/x/Escritorio/listaImagenes/cl04/cl04-imagenes.txt /media/x/cl04/home/df/image/ /home/x/Escritorio/listaImagenes/cl04/
• 1878[19:53:46] <Akuw> but i got No such file or directory (2)
• 1879[19:53:53] <greycat> michalrus: you can set LC_TIME to some other locale (like C or en_GB.utf8) or you can *attempt* to set a custom LOCPATH, but my attempts to use LOCPATH have not been fully successful, because something's stripping it out and I haven't figured out what.
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• 1883[19:54:09] <ratrace> Akuw: and what's in cl04-imagenes.txt? Can you give an example?
• 1884[19:54:21] <michalrus> greycat: ohhhh, so Debian 8 was actually wrong?
• 1885[19:54:32] <michalrus> Because US uses 12-hour clock, mhmmm
• 1886[19:54:40] <greycat> michalrus: the en_US locale changed between Debian 9 and 10
• 1887[19:54:50] <michalrus> OK
• 1888[19:55:17] <michalrus> Well, it could infer, that if I set UTC, then I’m probably interested in 24-hour format… :P
• 1889[19:55:17] <Akuw> "/home/av/image/5F/_VN01p12019090909251701E88A5FVRR1.jpg"
• 1890[19:55:29] <greycat> replaced-url
• 1891[19:55:36] <Akuw> "/home/av/image/00/_VN01p12019090909251701E88A5FVRR1.jpg"
• 1892[19:55:52] <Akuw> after image there are diferent directories names
• 1893[19:56:00] <ratrace> Akuw: if your --files-from contains ABSOLUTE paths, then your src dir for rsync must be / as greycat told you before
• 1894[19:56:06] <greycat> Akuw: we told you to use / as the srcdir because the pathnames from --files-from are relative to it
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• 1896[19:56:31] <ratrace> Akuw: because with what you have now? it's trying /media/x/cl04/home/df/image/home/av/image/5F/_VN01p12019090909251701E88A5FVRR1.jpg
• 1897[19:56:34] <michalrus> greycat: OK, thank you very much =)
• 1898[19:56:50] <michalrus> How do I properly set LC_TIME globally on Debian?
• 1899[19:56:58] <michalrus> Just edit /etc/profile?
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• 1901[19:57:23] <ratrace> Akuw: but watch you, you actually do NOT have absolute paths there. You're obviously sourcing from /media/x/.... so make sure that your source dir + paths in cl04-imagenes.txt COMBINED are correct
• 1902[19:57:34] <ratrace> %s/watch you/watch out/
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• 1904[19:57:45] <greycat> michalrus: replaced-url
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• 1907[19:58:16] <michalrus> Thank you =)
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• 1912[19:59:53] <Akuw> the pint is path in file comes from a kind of log
• 1913[20:00:08] <Akuw> so i have to concatenate first part of path?
• 1914[20:00:22] <ratrace> Akuw: doesn't change the fact that your src dir + paths in --files-from need to exist, when combined
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• 1918[20:01:01] <ratrace> Akuw: you have to provide such srcdir so that when it combines with paths in cl04-imagenes.txt, the paths actually exist
• 1919[20:01:22] <Akuw> ratrace: let me test
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• 1923[20:03:31] <Akuw> rsync -av --files-from=/home/x/Escritorio/listaImagenes/cl04x0001mlc01/cl04x0001mlc01-imagenes.txt /media/x/cl04x0001mlc01/ /home/x/Escritorio/listaImagenes/cl04x0001mlc01/
• 1924[20:03:45] <Akuw> path in file /home/avn_scop/image/5F/_VN01p12019090909251701E88A5FVRF1.jpg
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• 1926[20:04:26] <Akuw> failed: No such file or directory (2)
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• 1928[20:04:41] <greycat> it's like you're not even listening
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• 1930[20:05:05] <Akuw> sorry
• 1931[20:05:27] <Akuw> what i am doing wrong
• 1932[20:05:30] <Akuw> cant see it
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• 1934[20:06:28] <greycat> cd / && rsync -av --files-from=/home/x/Escritorio/listaImagenes/cl04x0001mlc01/cl04x0001mlc01-imagenes.txt . /home/x/Escritorio/listaImagenes/cl04x0001mlc01/
• 1935[20:08:16] <Akuw> failed: No such file or directory (2)
• 1936[20:08:39] <greycat> does /home/x/Escritorio/listaImagenes/cl04x0001mlc01/ exist?
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• 1938[20:10:40] <Akuw> wait
• 1939[20:10:59] <Akuw> yes
• 1940[20:11:05] <Akuw> it has list of files
• 1941[20:11:32] <Akuw> rsync: link_stat "/ /home/avn_scop/image/B4/_VN01p12019090910145901E88EB4VRR1.jpg" failed: No such file or directory (2)
• 1942[20:11:38] <greycat> most people don't create users named x so I can never tell how much of your com... AHA!!
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• 1944[20:11:47] <Akuw> heheheh
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• 1946[20:11:50] <Akuw> is my user
• 1947[20:11:52] <Akuw> x
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• 1950[20:12:27] <ratrace> I don't know how to make "src dir + paths in --files-from file need to exist when combined" any more clear.
• 1951[20:12:57] <greycat> I even gave him an exact, paste-able command, except that he lied about the username, and therefore about the home directory location...
• 1952[20:13:16] <greycat> IU don'
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• 1954[20:13:22] <Akuw> x tty7 2019-09-10 14:30 (:0)
• 1955[20:13:24] <Akuw> is x
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• 1957[20:13:34] <greycat> I don't know why people lie to us about INCONSEQUENTIAL NON-SECRET SHIT like their user names.
• 1958[20:13:34] <Akuw> i am not lying
• 1959[20:13:49] <Akuw> greycat: my user name is x
• 1960[20:14:16] <greycat> does /home/avn_scop/image/B4/_VN01p12019090910145901E88EB4VRR1.jpg exist?
• 1961[20:14:37] <Akuw> that is mounted
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• 1963[20:15:01] <greycat> I can't tell whether that's a yes or a no.
• 1964[20:15:20] <Akuw> wait
• 1965[20:15:22] <ratrace> link_stat "/ /home/avn... eh why is there a space there
• 1966[20:15:29] <Akuw> i will show all path
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• 1969[20:16:14] <Akuw> "/media/x/cl04x0001mlc01/home/avn_scop/image"
• 1970[20:16:27] <greycat> and what is that?
• 1971[20:16:51] <ratrace> Akuw: rsync <options> --files-from=.... /media/x/cl04x0001mlc01/ /..destination..
• 1972[20:17:15] <ratrace> Akuw: because, like we said: /media/x/cl04x0001mlc01/ + /home/avn_scop/image/B4/_VN01p12019090910145901E88EB4VRR1.jpg needs to exist
• 1973[20:17:21] <Akuw> because cl04x0001mlc01 is the folder where i mounted
• 1974[20:17:21] <greycat> yeah, something like that, since apparently you neglected to tell us that the pathnames in your file list were not COMPLETE
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• 1977[20:17:44] <Akuw> i pass all path
• 1978[20:17:54] <Akuw> let me show you mounted
• 1979[20:18:00] <ratrace> Akuw: /media/x/cl04x0001mlc01/ + /home/avn_scop/image/B4/_VN01p12019090910145901E88EB4VRR1.jpg = /media/x/cl04x0001mlc01/home/avn_scop/image/B4/_VN01p12019090910145901E88EB4VRR1.jpg
• 1980[20:18:06] <Akuw> root@10.3.96.5:/ on /media/x/cl04x0001mlc01 type fuse.sshfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other)
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• 1986[20:21:14] <Akuw> ratrace: rsync -av --files-from=/home/x/Escritorio/listaImagenes/cl04x0001mlc01/cl04x0001mlc01-imagenes.txt /media/x/cl04x0001mlc01/ /home/x/Escritorio/listaImagenes/cl04x0001mlc01/
• 1987[20:21:28] <Akuw> ?
• 1988[20:21:39] <ratrace> Akuw: yes, assuming what I said above.
• 1989[20:21:59] <Akuw> failed: No such file or directory (2)
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• 1993[20:23:08] <ratrace> Akuw: please pastebin the FULL output from rsync
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• 1997[20:24:20] <Akuw> replaced-url
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• 2000[20:24:43] <ratrace> Akuw: why is there a space in that path?
• 2001[20:24:58] <ratrace> do you have a space at the beginning of each line in your files list file?
• 2002[20:24:59] <greycat> I suspect there are leading spaces in his txt file
• 2003[20:25:02] <ratrace> ya
• 2004[20:25:13] <ratrace> one would think rsync would trim them
• 2005[20:25:22] <Akuw> yes
• 2006[20:25:35] <ratrace> Akuw: remove it and try again?
• 2007[20:25:37] <greycat> files are allowed to begin with spaces, so rsync can't just decide to trim them without being told to
• 2008[20:25:51] <Akuw> ok
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• 2016[20:28:41] <Akuw> rsync: link_stat "/media/x/cl04x0001mlc01/HFTP79" failed: No such file or directory (2)
• 2017[20:28:47] <Akuw> i removed space
• 2018[20:29:14] <greycat> There is no HFT in your first paste.
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• 2020[20:29:39] <Akuw> no
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• 2022[20:29:44] <Akuw> what is that
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• 2025[20:31:02] * ratrace flips table and goes home
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• 2027[20:31:33] <greycat> So either you added this HFTP79 thing to the txt file, or you didn't show the whole output of rsync the first time.
• 2028[20:31:42] <Akuw> no
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• 2030[20:31:49] <Akuw> i just delete space
• 2031[20:32:01] <Akuw> did not change anything
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• 2033[20:32:20] <Akuw> rsync -av --files-from=/home/x/Escritorio/listaImagenes/cl04x0001mlc01/cl04x0001mlc01-imagenes.txt /media/x/cl04x0001mlc01/ /home/x/Escritorio/listaImagenes/cl04x0001mlc01/
• 2034[20:32:54] <Akuw> it stay building file list ... some seconds and after that show some lines with that error
• 2035[20:32:56] <Akuw> and stop
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• 2037[20:33:14] <greycat> Did you try READING THE ERROR?
• 2038[20:33:22] <greycat> Or do you just paste it AT US for US TO READ IT FOR YOU?
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• 2040[20:34:58] <Akuw> i lost vpn connection, wait
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• 2043[20:35:17] <Akuw> when that happen i can do ls in /media/x/
• 2044[20:35:30] <Akuw> why?
• 2045[20:35:39] <Akuw> last time i have to restart computer
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• 2052[20:40:24] <Akuw> i have to restart
• 2053[20:40:26] <gintonyc> hi, i'm looking for the best way to configure automatic updates on 15 debian's servers. I want launch it at a specific date and time. Do you think the better way is to configure cron with scripts ? I saw Unattended Upgrades but it's random time. Thanks (just for information, i will use apt-cacher-ng)
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• 2056[20:40:52] <gintonyc> (date = day of the week in my sentence)
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• 2063[20:42:09] <SerajewelKS> unattended-upgrades is random-ish so that every debian box in the world isn't hitting the mirrors at the same time
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• 2068[20:43:59] <gintonyc> Yes but i don't have the choice of the time, it's not a long time window... But the "debian box" didn't choice the same hour ? :D (if it's not a default parameter)
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• 2070[20:44:07] <brutser> hi, i am installing a debian buster on an SD card, what would be the ideal partitioning? would i need a swap partition? (system has 16GB of RAM)
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• 2077[20:46:51] <SerajewelKS> gintonyc: actually i'm not sure it runs at a random time, i have it on a server here and i can't find any timer or cronjob that would start it...
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• 2079[20:47:14] <SerajewelKS> gintonyc: it looks like it runs on shutdown by default
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• 2083[20:50:48] <gintonyc> replaced-url
• 2084[20:51:01] <gintonyc> it can be change with sstemd/apt
• 2085[20:51:04] <Akuw> why this rsync: link_stat "/media/x/cl04x0001mlc01/HFTP79" failed: No such file or directory (2) ?
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• 2087[20:51:18] <Akuw> HFTP79 is not in path
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• 2090[20:53:28] <ratrace> Akuw: only you know what's in that list of files. Now you know the principle of how it works, figure it out.
• 2091[20:53:43] <greycat> ... oh my god, /etc/cron.daily/apt-compat is horrible
• 2092[20:53:47] <Akuw> i showed you
• 2093[20:54:24] <ratrace> Akuw: that was all of it? all the files you need to rsync?
• 2094[20:55:50] <Akuw> is a log list but there is not any HFTP79
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• 2096[20:56:26] <Akuw> this is content replaced-url
• 2097[20:56:28] <greycat> "I'm going to write this in /bin/sh and then try to use $RANDOM which is bash only, knowing it will probably fail, and then I'm going to act surprised that it failed, and run some rube goldberg crap pipeline to pull bytes out of /dev/urandom and convert them to usable form"
• 2098[20:56:32] <ratrace> Akuw: check again. grep -i hftp97 cl04x0001mlc01-imagenes.txt
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• 2100[20:57:04] <greycat> "All so I can SLEEP FOR SEVERAL MINUTES before doing my job, instead of just, y'know, scheduling the job at a specific time in cron"
• 2101[20:57:12] <Akuw> none
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• 2103[20:57:29] <Akuw> ratrace: none
• 2104[20:58:12] <ratrace> greycat: function dilbert_random() { return 9; } // you never know
• 2105[20:58:28] <greycat> I have that on one of my wiki pages.
• 2106[20:58:38] <ratrace> :) xkcd has a variant with 4
• 2107[20:59:16] <greycat> or... thought I did
• 2108[20:59:16] <Akuw> ratrace: what could be
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• 2110[20:59:27] <ratrace> Akuw: is it possible there are some... non-printable charactres in those filenames that then corrupt the file list?
• 2111[20:59:41] <Akuw> no
• 2112[20:59:54] <ratrace> well there must be something, rsync didn't pull it out of its..... hat.
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• 2114[21:00:28] <greycat> ah, wasn't on my wiki. it's on one of my static pages, a VERY old one.
• 2115[21:01:11] <ratrace> Akuw: cat cl04x0001mlc01-imagenes.txt | while read F; do [ -f "$F" ] || echo "file doesn't exist: $F" ; done
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• 2117[21:01:35] <ratrace> Akuw: you must cd in that srcdir you use for rsync
• 2118[21:02:01] <Akuw> file doesn't exist: /home/avn_scop/image/1E/_VN01p12019090920580301E8BA1EVRF1.jpg
• 2119[21:02:09] <Akuw> the comand you sent
• 2120[21:02:32] <greycat> probably need to change the test to -f "./$F"
• 2121[21:03:10] <ratrace> greycat: yeah you're right. Akuw: change as greycat suggested
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• 2123[21:03:46] <greycat> and make sure you cd first, because I am not sure you saw it the first time
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• 2126[21:04:54] <ratrace> greycat: I'm guessing, if they can't figure that out themselves.... there's no way we can do anything through this medium.
• 2127[21:05:14] <greycat> I'm also guessing that they can't figure this out for themselves.
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• 2130[21:06:23] <greycat> ... ok, so the crappy-shell-random-sleep rubbish in apt-compat is only used on non-systemd systems, and the real thing that's used on regular systems is done by a systemd timer, documented in the wiki and otherwise VERY difficult to find
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• 2135[21:11:34] <Akuw> damm
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• 2137[21:11:51] <Akuw> mounting ssh appear not to work fine
• 2138[21:12:51] <Akuw> after some time i cant list /media/x
• 2139[21:13:01] <humpled> hmm
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• 2141[21:13:49] <Akuw> i try to do ls /home/x and do nothing and i have to close terminal
• 2142[21:13:51] <Akuw> is like hang
• 2143[21:15:09] <ratrace> Akuw: btw, you do know you can rsync over ssh, yes?
• 2144[21:15:24] <Akuw> yes
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• 2146[21:15:36] <Akuw> the problem is i mounted
• 2147[21:15:36] <ratrace> kk
• 2148[21:15:55] <Akuw> after sometime i cant list /media/x
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• 2150[21:16:13] <ratrace> so don't use sshfs then, rsync over ssh
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• 2152[21:16:50] <Akuw> ratrace: what do you mean
• 2153[21:17:09] <Akuw> i have to stablish ssh then user rsync? how?
• 2154[21:17:24] <greycat> ... *plonk*
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• 2156[21:18:24] <ratrace> Akuw: but you just said you knew how
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• 2158[21:18:42] <ratrace> Akuw: rsync <options> -e ssh hostname:/src/dir/ /dest/dir/
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• 2160[21:18:58] <greycat> you haven't even needed -e ssh in years; it's been the default for a while
• 2161[21:19:01] <Akuw> but
• 2162[21:19:06] <ratrace> greycat: TIL
• 2163[21:19:24] <Akuw> i need to specify list of files to copy
• 2164[21:19:37] <Akuw> then i will face same problem
• 2165[21:19:41] <ratrace> Akuw: yes, so? as we said multiple times, the list of files is always relative to srcdir
• 2166[21:20:08] <Akuw> wait
• 2167[21:20:16] <Akuw> let me restart
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• 2170[21:20:27] <Akuw> mounting rsync broke something
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• 2173[21:20:51] <ratrace> if the list of files is remote too, you can use that too... rsync ... --files-from=:/path/on/src/host/ hostname:/src/dir/ /dest/
• 2174[21:21:18] <greycat> rsync (2.6.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
• 2175[21:21:20] <greycat> * - ssh is now the default remote shell for rsync.
• 2176[21:21:22] <greycat> -- Paul Slootman <paul@debian.org> Thu, 1 Jan 2004 21:09:52 +0100
• 2177[21:21:34] <ratrace> heh 2004
• 2178[21:21:45] <ratrace> shows how old I am
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• 2195[21:32:15] <Akuw> i need to get rid of /root/home/avn_scop/image/99/_VN01p12019090911415701E89499VRR1.jpg
• 2196[21:32:32] <lupine> how incriminating is it?
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• 2201[21:34:20] <Akuw> because ssh after login goes to /root
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• 2207[21:38:02] <humpled> /root/home?
• 2208[21:38:12] <humpled> i never saw that
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• 2210[21:38:37] <siouxscout> Then delete it...
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• 2212[21:39:16] <Akuw> no, when i login default folder is root
• 2213[21:39:28] <Akuw> rsync -av --files-from=/home/x/Escritorio/listaImagenes/cl04x0001mlc01/cl04x0001mlc01-imagenes.txt -e ssh root@10.3.96.5: /home/x/Escritorio/listaImagenes/cl04x0001mlc01
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• 2221[21:42:18] <siouxscout> you logged in remotly via ssh and want to copy the file to another remote host?
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• 2228[21:45:06] <ratrace> Akuw: ... ssh root@10.3.96.5:/ ...
• 2229[21:45:21] <Akuw> to the computer from where i am loggin
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• 2232[21:45:33] <ratrace> there's also a manpage srsly worth reading through
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• 2236[21:46:20] <Akuw> |woriking
• 2237[21:46:50] <Akuw> is there a way i can put all copied files in same directory? actually this create all folders
• 2238[21:46:57] <Akuw> i know is rsync
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• 2241[21:50:04] <brutser> what in general is the difference between: gpg --cipher-algo AES256 --symmetric filename.tar.gz AND openssl aes-256-cbc enc -a -salt -in filename.tar.gz -out filename.tar.gz.enc ? and what should you advise me to use if i just want encrypt a bunch of files?
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• 2243[21:51:38] <Akuw> rsync read the file from top to button to copy?
• 2244[21:51:47] <Akuw> in same order of lines?
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• 2249[21:54:58] <karlpinc> brutser: I don't know what AES256 does with gpg. You always want to use salt or else you're subject to a rainbow table attack. I suggest, say a wikipedia article on encryption.
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• 2251[21:56:33] <brutser> karlpinc: yes. i found this article > replaced-url
• 2252[21:57:18] <brutser> just the article use a public private key pair for gpg, which for my usecase is a bit too much, a strong passphrase to decrypt the keyfiles is more than enough i think
• 2253[21:57:44] <brutser> so now i am doubting whether to add the gpg binaries or openssl binaries to initramfs
• 2254[21:57:58] <brutser> and also, how i prompt for the password during initramfs phase, which is not trivial it seems
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• 2256[22:02:07] <Akuw> is there a way i can put all copied files in same directory? actually this create all folders
• 2257[22:02:28] <Akuw> i dont need all folders, jut put all images in one folder
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• 2281[22:15:53] <siouxscout> Akuw: Why not just copy them all first then you can easily grab all images and put them in one folder
• 2282[22:16:18] <Akuw> copying
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• 2284[22:19:03] <ws2k3> how can i delete a file that is called -d-le.pem ?
• 2285[22:19:15] <greycat> rm -- -d-le.pem
• 2286[22:19:18] <Habbie> ws2k3, rm ./-d-le.pem
• 2287[22:19:20] <Habbie> ws2k3, or that
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• 2290[22:20:14] <ws2k3> thanks you greycat and Habbie. debian is seriously the greatest distro and community ever :D
• 2291[22:20:19] <Habbie> :)
• 2292[22:20:47] * annadane nod
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• 2351[23:00:57] <premoboss> hello
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• 2354[23:03:05] <premoboss> i have the need to search a exadecimal string into a several file into several directories. I will like to kno it there is some "dirty trick" in bash to do this search. I will like to know everi occorence of a exadecimal string is inside a file, in what position of the file.
• 2355[23:04:02] <greycat> first of all, it's hexadecimal; we're not Cockneys
• 2356[23:04:18] <premoboss> i miss the "h", sorry.
• 2357[23:04:59] <greycat> I take it from the context of your question that these are NOT text files, you are NOT searching for a string of text, and simply getting a line number would NOT suffice? You want, what, a byte offset?
• 2358[23:05:35] <premoboss> well, they are binary files. to know the offset is better.
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• 2360[23:06:10] <premoboss> i.e. a report as "string 12ab4 is in file foo starting at byte 3420.
• 2361[23:06:16] <premoboss> some like that if possible.
• 2362[23:06:20] <Habbie> premoboss, and by 'hexadecimal string' you mean 'find the bytes corresponding to the binary string that the hexadecimal string encodes'?
• 2363[23:06:40] <Habbie> as a nitpick, 12ab4 is 5 long which is odd and therefore wrong
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• 2366[23:07:12] <Habbie> grep has -b (and on top of that -o) to report byte offsets
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• 2368[23:07:26] <Habbie> now you just need to get your 'hex' string into it
• 2369[23:07:41] <greycat> unless he actually means the string "12ab4" which would be something like 31 32 61 62 34 in hex
• 2370[23:07:52] <premoboss> Habbie, i give the string of byte tat i search for "123ab" or whatever, and i should receive as return all the offset that report the string start into the file.
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• 2372[23:08:05] <premoboss> greycat, yes.
• 2373[23:08:17] <greycat> *sigh* gods, it's like pulling teeth
• 2374[23:08:20] <Habbie> yes? then grep can do it easily
• 2375[23:08:27] <premoboss> sorry if i am not able to explain correctly the question :-/
• 2376[23:08:49] <greycat> can your string be "zebra" or "-----"?
• 2377[23:08:49] <Habbie> premoboss, can you tell us an actual hex string you would be searching for?
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• 2380[23:09:34] <premoboss> Habbie, the string is variable, let say "12a" as example.
• 2381[23:09:45] * greycat cries
• 2382[23:09:49] <Habbie> so are you looking for the 3 byte string '12a'?
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• 2384[23:09:59] <hop> greycat: right there with you
• 2385[23:10:02] <greycat> can you PLEASE use an example that contains something other than a HEX DIGIT
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• 2388[23:10:13] <premoboss> it can be 3, 4 or more bytes.
• 2389[23:10:23] <Habbie> premoboss, ok, so why are you saying hex?
• 2390[23:10:24] <greycat> can it be "FOX" ?
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• 2394[23:12:04] <premoboss> what i am looking into the file is the hexadecimal rapresentatio on a decimal umber, so if i am searcing 256 decimal, i must searc as hexadecimal the string "0100".
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• 2396[23:12:25] <premoboss> what i am looking into the file is the hexadecimal rapresentation on a decimal number, so if i am searching 256 decimal, i must search as hexadecimal the string "0100".
• 2397[23:12:33] <Habbie> so how many bytes would that be in the file?
• 2398[23:12:38] <hop> o.O
• 2399[23:12:45] <greycat> that's only two bytes, but you said it had to be 3, 4 or more
• 2400[23:12:59] <hop> that's a nibble
• 2401[23:13:20] <greycat> a nybble is 4 bits, half a byte
• 2402[23:13:36] <hop> <- being facecious
• 2403[23:13:44] <greycat> a hex digit is also 4 bits, or 1 nybble. it takes 2 hex digits to make a byte.
• 2404[23:13:47] <Habbie> (facetious)
• 2405[23:13:54] <hop> that one
• 2406[23:13:55] <premoboss> graycat, the rance of the searched bytes can be up to 65535 (decimal).
• 2407[23:14:04] <greycat> GIVE. A REAL. EXAMPLE.
• 2408[23:14:13] <Habbie> premoboss, for 256, or '0100', how many bytes would that be in the files your searching in?
• 2409[23:14:17] <premoboss> ok. give me tome.
• 2410[23:14:26] <greycat> You shouldn't NEED TIME.
• 2411[23:14:28] <Habbie> *you're
• 2412[23:14:30] <greycat> You shoudl HAVE ONE RIGHT NOW
• 2413[23:14:42] <greycat> It should be the thing that BROUGHT YOU HEER
• 2414[23:15:24] <hop> hear?
• 2415[23:15:28] <greycat> HERE
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• 2417[23:16:00] <premoboss> let say the file is "01234567890ABCC0123". I am looking to find "12". so the search should report me: "find 12 at position 1, 16".
• 2418[23:16:12] <premoboss> fount, not find. sorry
• 2419[23:16:14] <greycat> I can't. I just cannot.
• 2420[23:16:16] <greycat> bye.
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• 2423[23:16:26] <Habbie> premoboss, how many bytes is that file?
• 2424[23:16:44] <premoboss> Habbie, size of file is unknown.
• 2425[23:16:47] <Habbie> no
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• 2428[23:16:55] <Habbie> you said 'lets say the file is ...'
• 2429[23:16:58] <Habbie> how many bytes is -that- file
• 2430[23:17:00] <premoboss> but they can be not more than 100-200K
• 2431[23:18:33] <Habbie> $ echo 01234567890ABCC0123 > myfile ; grep -bo 12 myfile
• 2432[23:18:35] <Habbie> 1:12
• 2433[23:18:37] <Habbie> 16:12
• 2434[23:18:41] <Habbie> is this what you are looking for?
• 2435[23:18:47] <premoboss> Wow!
• 2436[23:19:05] <premoboss> so easy?
• 2437[23:19:10] <Habbie> please understand that nothing about this example cares that things are hexadecimal
• 2438[23:19:10] <J_C> so easy
• 2439[23:19:11] <premoboss> tanks!
• 2440[23:19:22] <premoboss> thanks!
• 2441[23:19:25] <J_C> tanks? where?! oh god they've found me!
• 2442[23:19:29] <Habbie> and that most of the confusion came from you saying 'binary'
• 2443[23:19:34] <Habbie> this file is not 'binary' at all
• 2444[23:19:39] <hop> i'm dying
• 2445[23:20:23] <annadane> "why is greycat so upset all the t- oh."
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• 2448[23:20:52] <premoboss> annadane, becaus people like me give question in so unclear way.
• 2449[23:22:22] <J_C> being upset is usually a repercussion of being able to think coherently :(
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• 2455[23:25:12] <stnv> I miss irc so much... thanks for the tanks
• 2456[23:25:46] <APic> IRC > *
• 2457[23:25:49] <APic> srsly
• 2458[23:26:01] * APic has moar than 200 Channel-Windows open in my irssi ♥
• 2459[23:27:22] <premoboss> stnv, no problem, when you are looking for any king of typoes, i am the right person.
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• 2461[23:28:50] <stnv> well.. it was not about the typo.. it was this way of joking that is hard to reproduce in the 'modern' social media.. fb or twitter
• 2462[23:29:14] <brutser> i have lvm luks encrypted /dev/sda, when i do blkid i don't see UUID of /dev/sda, but only for the LVM, i need to enter UUID in crypttab, should i use the UUID of the PV?
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• 2464[23:30:44] <skierpage> I'm trying to find upstream for the Debian package xsel. replaced-url
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• 2471[23:33:42] <epsilon> brutser: usually you create a partition (/dev/sda1), then crypt it and then LVM on top
• 2472[23:33:59] <tdn> What is the easiest way of obtaining a recent version of libreoffice in Debian 9? Using some backports? If so, from where?
• 2473[23:35:18] <annadane> yeah, use stretch-backports
• 2474[23:35:20] <brutser> epsilon: yes, but here i encrypted the whole device /dev/sda
• 2475[23:35:29] <tdn> annadane, how?
• 2476[23:35:50] <annadane> just add deb replaced-url
• 2477[23:36:06] <APic> skierpage: When i do „apt-get source xsel“, it fetches xsel_1.2.0+git9bfc13d.20180109.orig.tar.gz among other Stuffs
• 2478[23:36:32] <annadane> ,v libreoffice
• 2479[23:36:33] <judd> Package: libreoffice on amd64 -- jessie: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u11; jessie-security: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u12; stretch: 1:5.2.7-1+deb9u10; stretch-security: 1:5.2.7-1+deb9u11; stretch-backports: 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u2~bpo9+1; buster: 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u3; buster-security: 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u4; bullseye: 1:6.3.0-2; sid: 1:6.3.0-2; buster-backports: 1:6.3.1-1~bpo10+1
• 2480[23:36:34] <tdn> annadane, but I only want to install libreoffice in a new version. Wont this make the next "apt update && apt upgrade" upgrade a bunch of packages on my system?
• 2481[23:36:46] <annadane> no, they'll be separated
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• 2483[23:37:27] <annadane> anyhow, libreoffice in backports isn't *the* most up to date so i don't know what you're looking for, but it's *newer*
• 2484[23:37:32] <annadane> than the default in stretch
• 2485[23:37:41] <tdn> annadane, then how do I install loffice from backports? I mean, I will have to specify that I want this one package from backports, right?
• 2486[23:37:52] <annadane> apt -t stretch-backports install libreoffice
• 2487[23:37:54] <tdn> annadane, it is probably ok
• 2488[23:37:57] <tdn> Ah!
• 2489[23:38:02] <skierpage> APic: OK, but does something in that apt info give a URL for the upstream project for bug reports and such? (Google suggests that for xsel it's replaced-url
• 2490[23:38:05] <annadane> sorry, could be a bit more detailed
• 2491[23:38:16] <tdn> annadane, so if I do not specify -t stretch-packports, this source will never be used?
• 2492[23:38:25] <annadane> right
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• 2495[23:39:10] <somiaj> tdn: with one small cavet, once you install something from stretch-backports, if stretch-backports gets an upgrade, the new upgrade is isntalled without adding the -t stretch-backports line
• 2496[23:39:22] <tdn> somiaj, ok. Thanks
• 2497[23:39:24] <epsilon> brutser: then try "/dev/sda" instead of "UUID=xxxxxxxx", look at man crypttab with examples
• 2498[23:39:50] <brutser> epsilon: yes i can use /dev/sda, but i rather use UUID for obvious reasons
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• 2501[23:41:12] <tdn> annadane, somiaj : I seem to end up in a dependency chain: replaced-url
• 2502[23:41:37] <tdn> It keeps stopping at dependend packages. Shouldnt I just be able to install the metapackage?
• 2503[23:41:50] <annadane> tdn, just apt -t stretch-backports install libreoffice
• 2504[23:41:57] <annadane> it's a metapackage that'll install the others
• 2505[23:41:58] <APic> skierpage: Nah, it seems to leech the .orig from „debian/pool/main/x/xsel“ inside the Debian-Mirror. It also says i shall use „git clone replaced-url
• 2506[23:42:08] <tdn> annadane, I did that, then it said it was missing -core
• 2507[23:42:29] <tdn> annadane, replaced-url
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• 2509[23:42:34] <brutser> epsilon: other guy suggested me to use cryptsetup luksDump /dev/sda > that will give the UUID to use ;) just FYI
• 2510[23:42:41] <tdn> annadane, then I added that. And I just kept adding packages that it complains about
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• 2512[23:42:51] <tdn> annadane, but this will take forever and does not seem right
• 2513[23:42:54] <annadane> uhhh.
• 2514[23:43:01] <annadane> someone else? lol
• 2515[23:43:10] <annadane> i have no idea, i'm sorry
• 2516[23:43:17] <APic> skierpage: You could try comparing that Debian-xsel.git with the kfish/xsel one at GITHub
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• 2518[23:43:40] <APic> skierpage: And if it does not differ much, i would just report Bugs to the kfish/xsel-GITHub-Repo
• 2519[23:43:45] <tdn> somiaj, do you have any idea why I cannot install the meta package?
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• 2524[23:45:11] <APic> skierpage: Inside the Source i fetched with „apt-get source“ it lists replaced-url
• 2525[23:45:36] <APic> skierpage: But You should probably use unstable to be sure to get the current one, i only have testing here
• 2526[23:46:24] <skierpage> APic: thanks for the education, lovely!
• 2527[23:46:29] <somiaj> tdn: it says you have held/broken packages, have you tried 'apt -f install'
• 2528[23:47:00] <tdn> somiaj, yes.
• 2529[23:47:05] <tdn> somiaj, nothing pending
• 2530[23:47:08] <somiaj> and it found no problems?
• 2531[23:47:15] <tdn> somiaj, no problems
• 2532[23:47:17] <APic> skierpage: That Page even has „git clone git://github.com/kfish/xsel.git“ on it, so that is really the right Repo ☺
• 2533[23:47:19] <somiaj> care to share the output of 'apt policy'
• 2534[23:47:20] <APic> skierpage: You are welcome
• 2535[23:47:26] <tdn> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
• 2536[23:47:42] <tdn> replaced-url
• 2537[23:47:48] <tdn> somiaj, apt policy is here. replaced-url
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• 2539[23:49:05] <somiaj> have you installed libreoffice from stretch yet, just 'apt install libreoffice'
• 2540[23:49:25] <tdn> somiaj, I have not
• 2541[23:49:34] <LtL> tdn: i doubt this is a good thing, 500 replaced-url
• 2542[23:49:54] <annadane> oh, christ.
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• 2544[23:50:08] <somiaj> It shouldn't be required, but I often suggest installing stretches version first then upgrading to stretch-backports version
• 2545[23:50:12] <tdn> LtL, it is my own mirror. There is no difference in these packages between v9 and v10
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• 2547[23:50:38] <somiaj> I also notice you have non-free but not contrib, you probably want contrib too (as non-free packages can depend on contrib)
• 2548[23:50:58] <tdn> somiaj, ok
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• 2554[23:51:27] <somiaj> tdn: so apt install libreoffice, then if that works, apt -t stretch-backports install libreoffice
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• 2556[23:51:38] <tdn> somiaj, fixed: replaced-url
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• 2561[23:51:52] <tdn> libreoffice is already the newest version (1:5.2.7-1+deb9u11).
• 2562[23:52:55] <somiaj> well might have to start going down the rabbit hole, 'apt -t stretch-backports libreoffice libreoffice-core' what does that do?
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