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• 1[00:01:06] <maxm3232> apache is running on the server i guess
• 2[00:01:07] <maxm3232> replaced-url
• 3[00:01:14] <maxm3232> cant use pastebin anymore lol
• 4[00:02:05] <tds> do you have access to the reverse proxy? being able to see what it's actually trying to connect to would probably be useful
• 5[00:02:55] <Lady_Aleena> dist-upgrade better not touch $HOME/perl5/lib/perl5
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• 8[00:03:30] <maxm3232> tds: I think so, is there any way to find out the server address?
• 9[00:03:31] <Tom-_> nothing touches anything under ~ after the directory is created by adduser/useradd
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• 11[00:03:57] <Tom-_> not a debian process, none that i know of anyway
• 12[00:03:58] <tds> maxm3232: `host firewall.junior-comtec.hg.tu-darmstadt.de` will get you the IP
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• 15[00:06:55] <Schwarzbaer_> Hi. I just upgraded according to replaced-url
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• 17[00:07:08] <maxm3232> tds: What should I do if I'm on the server? Or how can I check if I'm on the right one where the reverse proxy is?
• 18[00:07:37] <tds> read the webserver config, apache2ctl -S might be a good starting point again
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• 20[00:07:57] <tds> also, this conversation should probably be in #httpd at this point
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• 22[00:08:44] <jmcnaught> Schwarzbaer_: Debian 9 comes with Python 3.5. Also you cannot install testing packages on a stable system.
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• 27[00:10:18] <Tom-_> well you and like 100 million other people find packages in Debian stable too old. you can try a newer debian (less secure) or backports (apparently less tested) or build yourself or maybe some other APT source (frankendebian?)
• 28[00:10:24] <Tom-_> Schwarzbaer_, I meant that to you
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• 30[00:12:20] <Schwarzbaer_> Thanks. I think I'll just try upgrading to buster. Python3 isn't the only thing holding me back, Mesa is as well.
• 31[00:12:27] <maxm3232> tds: could it be on this server? got this wen I typed apache2ctl -S: replaced-url
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• 34[00:13:00] <tds> could be, it's your infrastructure, you should know ;)
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• 39[00:14:39] <maxm3232> I guess so :'D I would have to ask someone else, and I might come back tomorrow, nevertheless thanks so much for everyone here for helping me and others
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• 45[00:15:31] <tds> it this is for work, you should definitely find someone more familiar with their infrastructure, or see if there's internal documentation
• 46[00:15:49] <tds> or get good at digging through undocumented boxes and figuring out what they're doing and how they work :)
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• 52[00:16:53] <maxm3232> Nothing is documented and the people who implemented it are all gone, atm I'm trying to find someone who is more familiar with debian in general, but till then I have to deal with this lol but thanks!
• 53[00:17:25] <tds> ah, the latter option then :D
• 54[00:17:44] <tds> and it sounds like you've discovered another wheezy box to upgrade in the process of diagnosing this one
• 55[00:19:16] <maxm3232> yes but a lot of important stuff is running on that one, I won't try to upgrade it, at least not alone
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• 58[00:20:43] <Schwarzbaer_> ...and I encountered an error during upgrade. What log does this refer to? replaced-url
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• 63[00:21:27] <Tom-_> i don't know what appstream is
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• 65[00:22:12] <Tom-_> part of GNOME or depended on by gnome apparently
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• 72[00:28:56] <Lady_Aleena> Son of a B****! My graphics card is causing problems now. How can I run this computer without the nvidia driver? The Nouveau drivers don't work with my card.
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• 75[00:29:41] <Tom-_> well just vesa or fbdev drivers will work, but let's try to fix the nvidia driver
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• 77[00:30:29] <Lady_Aleena> I am being asked if I want to install the nvidia driver even thought, supposedly, my graphics card is unsupported.
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• 80[00:31:09] <Lady_Aleena> So, do I want to install the nvidia driver just in case?
• 81[00:31:12] <Tom-_> you can install the nvidia-detect package after the upgrade is over and follow its instructions
• 82[00:31:34] <Tom-_> i'd like to see a screen paste
• 83[00:31:45] <Tom-_> i guess i'd say no, i think i tried that before on another computer
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• 85[00:32:27] <Lady_Aleena> LEt's hope that I can see my screen upon reboot.
• 86[00:32:59] <Lady_Aleena> And I got an error and dist-upgrade quit.
• 87[00:33:22] <Lady_Aleena> I guess I should have said yes.
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• 89[00:33:32] <Lady_Aleena> replaced-url
• 90[00:33:54] <Tom-_> let me look at it
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• 92[00:34:33] <Lady_Aleena> Here it is, a little more complete: replaced-url
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• 94[00:35:00] * Tom-_ wonders what you're supposed to do
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• 96[00:35:31] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, maybe we should just install the appropriate nvidia driver right now, what do you say? if so, apt-get install nvidia-detect
• 97[00:35:47] <Tom-_> and then resume the dist-upgrade
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• 100[00:36:26] <Lady_Aleena> And that had errors: replaced-url
• 101[00:36:34] <kevinnn> hi all, can anyone tell me how to tell if a certain network device (like eth0) is an ethernet device or a wireless device?
• 102[00:36:58] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, okay let's try to finish the dist-upgrade. please run dpkg --configure -a and answer any questions...
• 103[00:37:07] <indomitable> so what's the best replacement for docker?
• 104[00:37:13] <indomitable> since it's now 100% insecure
• 105[00:37:15] <kevinnn> for example I can tell if a network device is wireless depending on whether or not /sys/class/net/<device>/wireless exists
• 106[00:37:29] <Tom-_> kevinnn, i think wireless devices are wlan0 and not eth0
• 107[00:37:41] <Tom-_> in the old network card naming scheme (pre-systemd?)
• 108[00:37:51] <kevinnn> Tom-_ that is not always the case
• 109[00:37:54] <Lady_Aleena> Tom-_, what does that do, resume dist-upgrade?
• 110[00:38:07] <kevinnn> you cannot tell simply based on the name of the card
• 111[00:38:25] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, dpkg --configure -a configures any partially installed packages, it's designed to help you finish the dist-upgrade ... someties it will just tell you to do that anyway
• 112[00:39:20] <Tom-_> kevinnn, i've heard your question before but i don't remember the answer, i'd just web search it
• 113[00:39:41] <Tom-_> dpkg, what's my wireless
• 114[00:39:41] <dpkg> Install the hwinfo package and execute "/usr/sbin/hwinfo --wlan", or replaced-url
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• 120[00:44:04] <Lady_Aleena> Errors were encountered while processing: replaced-url
• 121[00:45:46] <Tom-_> okay rerun apt-get upgrade now
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• 123[00:46:34] <Lady_Aleena> replaced-url
• 124[00:47:12] <Lady_Aleena> So follow directions and run apt-get install -f?
• 125[00:47:22] <Lady_Aleena> Or apt-get -f install?
• 126[00:47:46] <Tom-_> sure
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• 128[00:48:10] <Tom-_> i haven't met an apt problem i couldn't figure my way out of for a very long time, don't worry
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• 130[00:50:10] <Lady_Aleena> I'm surprised no one else is getting tired of this.
• 131[00:50:22] <Lady_Aleena> And now apt-get upgrade again?
• 132[00:50:34] <Tom-_> sure
• 133[00:50:53] <Tom-_> if we Debian bigots got tired of technical tediousness i don't think Debian would exist
• 134[00:51:01] <Tom-_> selection bias
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• 136[00:51:58] <Lady_Aleena> I hope someone from the Buster development team has been watching this to see the trouble I'm having with something that should have been simple.
• 137[00:52:39] <Tom-_> i think there's not exactly a team, just Debian developers, but i feel you
• 138[00:53:32] <Tom-_> i think the rdnssd-related bug and the nvidia-legacy-check erroring just because you say no maybe doesn't work
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• 141[00:54:33] <Lady_Aleena> Should I run dist-upgrade again because upgrade had like 300+ packages it was holding back?
• 142[00:56:05] <Tom-_> yep
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• 144[00:56:18] <Tom-_> i should have said dist-upgrade the last two times i said upgrade, but it doesn't harm anything
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• 147[00:56:42] <Schwarzbaer_> Tom-_, from #gnome: "looks like the warning are from debian specific data, i'd try asking in a debian channel"
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• 149[00:57:10] <Tom-_> Schwarzbaer_, ah crap sorry, i didn't know you'd go in a #gnome channel :)
• 150[00:57:11] * Lady_Aleena tries to relax.
• 151[00:57:31] <Tom-_> Schwarzbaer_, i can try to help you after a while
• 152[00:57:53] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, you should relax, everything should be good
• 153[00:58:06] <Lady_Aleena> Tom-_, I always expect the worst.
• 154[00:58:23] * Tom-_ thinks of Windows 98 and philosophises
• 155[00:58:24] <Schwarzbaer_> Thanks. I do have a bit of time.
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• 157[00:59:08] <Tom-_> Schwarzbaer_, you can try upgrading anyway and just ignoring the appstream error
• 158[00:59:13] <Lady_Aleena> This time I said yes about the video driver, and so far so good.
• 159[00:59:15] <Tom-_> i don't think it does much
• 160[00:59:41] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, remember to add nvidia-detect to the list of packages you should install after the dist-upgrade completes its run
• 161[00:59:47] <Schwarzbaer_> Tom-_, will do.
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• 166[01:04:06] <Lady_Aleena> My list so far: LibreOffice, Geany, InkScape, nVidia-detect, and chromium. Can you remember anything else?
• 167[01:05:31] <Tom-_> no. double check that audio works in VLC, if you use VLC, afterwards
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• 169[01:06:00] <Lady_Aleena> That is on my list to check (after reboot?).
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• 173[01:07:52] <Tom-_> sure
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• 175[01:08:30] <Tom-_> it's possible you could file a bug report on nvidia-legacy-check
• 176[01:08:46] <Tom-_> say that it makes no sense to interrupt the install if you say no, seeing as you're just doing what it tells you to
• 177[01:09:09] <Tom-_> i'm just trying to follow up your thought on hoping the debian developers are watching
• 178[01:09:33] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, task-kde-desktop should be on your list
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• 182[01:12:47] <Lady_Aleena> To check or install?
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• 184[01:13:24] <Tom-_> install. i'd just put all of those packages in one line after your dist-upgrade is done, apt-get install task-kde-desktop chromium etc
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• 192[01:18:56] <Lady_Aleena> So, before I run the installation of these six packages, should I run either upgrade or dist-upgrade again just to be safe?
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• 194[01:19:56] <Tom-_> sure! :)
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• 196[01:20:40] <Tom-_> also after you install nvidia-detect, please run nvidia-detect and follow its instructions. this should get 3D working on your video card
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• 202[01:23:12] <Lady_Aleena> Should I do autoremove?
• 203[01:23:39] * Lady_Aleena does it.
• 204[01:23:47] <Tom-_> probably
• 205[01:25:03] <Lady_Aleena> Oh good guh! What is lightdm and sddm?
• 206[01:25:13] <Tom-_> new graphical login managers
• 207[01:25:20] <Lady_Aleena> Which do I want?
• 208[01:25:25] <Tom-_> i haven't sddm. do you have kdm?
• 209[01:25:32] <Lady_Aleena> Yes
• 210[01:25:37] <dvs> sddm then
• 211[01:25:43] <dvs> It's the new login window
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• 214[01:26:00] <Tom-_> maybe go with sddm
• 215[01:26:13] <Lady_Aleena> I hope I can change it later if I don't like it.
• 216[01:26:20] <Tom-_> you can! :)
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• 220[01:29:38] <Lady_Aleena> I'm going to try installing nvidia-detect by itself since I had trouble the last time.
• 221[01:29:45] <Tom-_> ok
• 222[01:30:48] <Tom-_> i think i was in error to make that suggestion the last time, but you can do it that way if you want to :) It's a free operating system, and i hope you're in a free country :^)
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• 224[01:30:53] <Tom-_> i hardly ever use that emoticon
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• 227[01:31:25] <Lady_Aleena> I don't see emoticons, just characters strung together in hexchat.
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• 229[01:35:21] <Lady_Aleena> I keep seeing the following crop up and don't know why or what firmware it is looking for: replaced-url
• 230[01:36:19] <Tom-_> me neither. you said you needed no firmware at the beginning right? if you got your computer working before, you probably don't need this tg3 thing
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• 234[01:36:50] <Lady_Aleena> I don't even know where it came from.
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• 236[01:38:02] <jmcnaught> It's for an ethernet card, the firmware files are in the firmware-misc-nonfree package
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• 239[01:38:27] <jmcnaught> If ethernet already works then the firmware probably just enables some extra features.
• 240[01:38:47] <Lady_Aleena> What should have taken an hour, maybe an hour and a half, has taken nearly 8 hours and the patience of so many saintly people in here.
• 241[01:39:11] <Lady_Aleena> Today has made me love the Debian community more.
• 242[01:39:17] <Tom-_> and me!
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• 245[01:40:03] <Lady_Aleena> Tom-_, you have repaid me in full today, and then some, for my little bit of help on your website.
• 246[01:40:19] <Tom-_> no problem
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• 248[01:41:04] <Lady_Aleena> ,v geany
• 249[01:41:05] <judd> Package: geany on amd64 -- jessie: 1.24.1+dfsg-1; stretch: 1.29-1; buster: 1.33-1; sid: 1.34.1-1
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• 254[01:47:08] <Lady_Aleena> Now, apt-get upgrade, dist-upgrade, and autoremove all return "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded." so, should I reboot? If yes, are you ready for my complete pms-fueled mental break down when something doesn't work as expect?
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• 256[01:47:36] <Lady_Aleena> s/expect/expected/;
• 257[01:48:27] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: did you reinstall those packages you were mentioning earlier?
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• 259[01:49:29] <Tom-_> yeah that
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• 261[01:49:52] <Tom-_> i think i'd like to make sure you have a kernel installed too, apt-get install linux-image-amd64
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• 263[01:50:22] <jmcnaught> and task-kde-desktop which should pull in a display manager
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• 269[01:54:24] <Lady_Aleena> task-kde-desktop was already on the latest version when I went to install it; nvidia-detect has been installed and run and directions followed from its results; chromium was installed with a rerun of dist-upgrade; libreoffice, geany (and geany-plugins), and inkscape were all installed as well.
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• 272[01:55:22] <Tom-_> can you please run apt-get install linux-image-amd64 and if that works i would say reboot
• 273[01:55:24] <Lady_Aleena> And I am going to put my spaghetti sauce together before I do anything else.
• 274[01:55:30] <Tom-_> okay
• 275[01:55:38] <Lady_Aleena> In about 10 minutes.
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• 293[02:05:50] <Lady_Aleena> Installing linux-image-amd64 now
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• 297[02:06:51] <Lady_Aleena> And here is the output: replaced-url
• 298[02:06:58] <indomitable> Lady_Aleena, well stop it
• 299[02:07:15] <Lady_Aleena> indomitable, stop what?
• 300[02:07:22] <indomitable> breaking stuff
• 301[02:07:37] <indomitable> read your logs
• 302[02:07:53] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, apt-get install linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64
• 303[02:07:54] <indomitable> you need to inform your kernelsourcedir about where you're gonna find it
• 304[02:07:59] <indomitable> or that
• 305[02:08:00] <indomitable> sounds easier
• 306[02:08:24] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, that doesn't seem to be an error
• 307[02:08:37] <Tom-_> oh i see the error now. yeah, do what dvs says.
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• 310[02:09:46] <Lady_Aleena> Shouldn't that have come with dist-upgrade?
• 311[02:09:55] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, maybe you can install firmware-misc-nonfree too. who knows, you might need it
• 312[02:10:24] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, you'd think so
• 313[02:11:17] <indomitable> Tom-_, HISS
• 314[02:11:19] <indomitable> non-free
• 315[02:11:19] <indomitable> HISS
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• 317[02:11:34] <Lady_Aleena> I have a lot of really old computer parts.
• 318[02:11:46] <indomitable> Use them in the coming apocalypse
• 319[02:12:06] <Lady_Aleena> I'm going to continue watching Good Omens tonight. 8)
• 320[02:12:37] <indomitable> it's really good Lady_Aleena
• 321[02:12:40] <indomitable> enjoy .)
• 322[02:12:58] <Lady_Aleena> So, the apocalypse will be on my TV, close enough?
• 323[02:13:04] <indomitable> No
• 324[02:13:05] <indomitable> But the show is good.
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• 326[02:13:49] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, about the linux-image-amd64 package. it should upgrade to the latest kernel if this package is installed. i think one of us accidentally uninstalled it earlier, which is why it stuck in my head to suggest to you to install it. and it's a good thing otherwise you'd still be on the old kernel, which i heard today might be insecure (although there is at least one other layer of security for this)
• 327[02:14:27] <indomitable> Docker is the best way of avoiding updates
• 328[02:14:32] <indomitable> Isn't that why we all use it
• 329[02:14:47] <Lady_Aleena> In about 17 minutes, I will want to start the water boiling for the spaghetti.
• 330[02:14:50] <ksk> sounds like a horrible advice.
• 331[02:15:04] <indomitable> Lady_Aleena, solid plan
• 332[02:15:09] <indomitable> ksk, what is horrible advice
• 333[02:15:15] <Lady_Aleena> So, do I reboot now or after dinner and a couple episodes of Good Omens?
• 334[02:15:30] <indomitable> I would just not use docker until they fix that horrible security bug
• 335[02:15:37] <indomitable> also known as "a feature"
• 336[02:15:58] <Lady_Aleena> I haven't heard of docker until now.
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• 340[02:16:17] <indomitable> oh I'm in the wrong channel
• 341[02:16:19] <indomitable> I apologize
• 342[02:16:21] <indomitable> Ignore all the things
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• 344[02:19:58] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, if you reinstalled all the packages you manually removed, then I'd reboot.
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• 347[02:21:00] <Lady_Aleena> ,v firefox
• 348[02:21:01] <judd> Package: firefox on amd64 -- sid: 67.0-4
• 349[02:21:11] <magic_ninja> Hmm, so what would cause my wireless interface to go up and down. dmesg -T confirms that just recently my interface was toggled.
• 350[02:21:15] <dvs> ,v firefox-esr
• 351[02:21:16] <judd> Package: firefox-esr on amd64 -- jessie: 52.8.1esr-1~deb8u1; stretch: 60.6.1esr-1~deb9u1; stretch-updates: 60.6.3esr-1~deb9u1; buster: 60.6.3esr-1; jessie-security: 60.7.0esr-1~deb8u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 60.7.0esr-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 60.7.0esr-1~deb9u1; sid: 60.7.0esr-1
• 352[02:22:36] <magic_ninja> [Mon Jun 3 18:20:51 2019] userif-2: sent link down event.
• 353[02:22:36] <magic_ninja> [Mon Jun 3 18:20:51 2019] userif-2: sent link up event.
• 354[02:22:51] <magic_ninja> looks like it is switching in less than a second
• 355[02:23:03] <Lady_Aleena> Okay, I am rebooting. Hope for laugher and clarity, prepare for tears and confusion.
• 356[02:23:08] <magic_ninja> GL
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• 367[02:27:39] <magic_ninja> userif seems to be a vmware device, but I'm not sure how to track down interface names to what device they are on.
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• 370[02:27:42] <magic_ninja> if that makes sense
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• 373[02:28:17] <dvs> Well, that's a good sign.
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• 377[02:29:31] <Lady_Aleena> I got big error while rebooting. It went by so fast, but it may have failed to load kernels.
• 378[02:29:47] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: dmesg
• 379[02:30:48] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, are you using this computer now?
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• 382[02:32:40] <Lady_Aleena> I'm on my phone for irc.
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• 384[02:33:16] <Tom-_> okay so your computer can't be used at the moment? what's on the screen?
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• 389[02:33:49] <Lady_Aleena> I got to a command prompt but that's about it.
• 390[02:34:13] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, does it say "login:" ?
• 391[02:34:29] <indomitable> I wish I said login
• 392[02:34:55] <Lady_Aleena> I was able to log in some at a command prompt.
• 393[02:35:17] <Lady_Aleena> Sorry my phone's keyboard is so tiny I'm making spelling errors.
• 394[02:35:42] <Lady_Aleena> I am at a command prompt and ran D message.
• 395[02:35:43] <Tom-_> are there any error messages visible on the screen? if so please tell us them
• 396[02:35:49] <dvs> So it's time to use the live CD you created earlier?
• 397[02:35:59] <Tom-_> dvs, what for? you lost me
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• 399[02:36:31] <dvs> Tom-_, It so depends on what that command prompt says.
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• 403[02:40:11] <Lady_Aleena> me@office:~$
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• 405[02:40:57] <dvs> And you didn't get a "login:" prompt before.
• 406[02:41:26] <Tom-_> she said she logged in
• 407[02:41:37] <Tom-_> i assume it said login: first
• 408[02:41:39] <dvs> Oh, ok. So it's a problem with X.
• 409[02:41:42] <Lady_Aleena> I did and logged in as "me"
• 410[02:41:48] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: type startx
• 411[02:42:14] <dvs> Tom-_, it could have been a "grub:" prompt which is way worse.
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• 413[02:42:48] <Tom-_> you can try typing in startx, but i would like to know the errors. xorg should be installed if kde is installed
• 414[02:43:54] <Lady_Aleena> ltl, I just ran startx and the last line is "xinit: server error"
• 415[02:45:11] <dvs> I'm guessing the error can be found in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file
• 416[02:45:15] <Tom-_> maybe we should tell you to install pastebinit
• 417[02:45:19] <Tom-_> dpkg, pastebinit
• 418[02:45:19] <dpkg> A command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg 2>&1 | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>.
• 419[02:45:26] <Lady_Aleena> If anyone has Twitter, I can post an screen image there.
• 420[02:45:28] <dvs> even better
• 421[02:45:41] <Tom-_> dpkg, paste
• 422[02:45:42] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: replaced-url
• 423[02:45:53] <Tom-_> yes you can paste to file.io or imgur.com or any other site you like, i don't mind
• 424[02:47:56] <Tom-_> twitter might be better than imgur, imgur basically keeps your pictures forever
• 425[02:48:15] <Lady_Aleena> My latest tweet. @Lady_Aleena
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• 428[02:51:23] <Tom-_> appears to be missing drivers. i would like to see your dmesg now. can you either run dmesg, and take and post another picture, or install nopaste?
• 429[02:52:46] <Lady_Aleena> dmesg is already several pages long.
• 430[02:53:07] <Lady_Aleena> Want me grep something first?
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• 433[02:53:11] <Tom-_> do you want to take a picture of any parts that appear to be errors?
• 434[02:53:36] <Tom-_> anything to do with nvidia or nouveau would be helpful, or anything that clearly seems to be an error or warning
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• 437[02:54:59] <Lady_Aleena> How does nopaste work?
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• 439[02:55:58] <Tom-_> it's supposed to just let you put any text into several paste websites
• 440[02:56:02] <Tom-_> dpkg, nopaste?
• 441[02:56:02] <dpkg> nopaste is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install libapp-nopaste-perl; nopaste /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | nopaste".
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• 443[02:56:20] <Tom-_> we will find out if your internet works after you try the aptitude or apt-get command though
• 444[02:56:27] <dvs> I thought pastebinit did the same thing.
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• 447[02:56:59] <Tom-_> yeah, pastebinit requires extra config to get to paste.debian.net instead of pastebin , so i thought i'd recommend nopaste if that worked well
• 448[02:57:13] <dvs> ok
• 449[02:57:38] <LtL> um, i don't think so Tom-_
• 450[02:57:47] <Tom-_> what part?
• 451[02:57:57] <Lady_Aleena> nopaste didn't work.
• 452[02:58:07] <Tom-_> what error?
• 453[02:58:18] <Tom-_> be patient, we're working out the bugs... yes i know there should have been none
• 454[02:58:19] <LtL> paste.debian.net is pastebinit default
• 455[02:58:26] <Tom-_> LtL, okay
• 456[02:58:32] <LtL> iirc
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• 458[02:58:52] <Tom-_> $ echo hello world 3 | pastebinit replaced-url
• 459[02:59:07] <Lady_Aleena> tweeted
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• 461[03:00:07] <Tom-_> try sudo dmesg | pastebinit -b paste.debian.net
• 462[03:00:23] <Lady_Aleena> And the noodles are cooked. Dinner is done. I'm off for a couple of hours. Thanks for trying to help.
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• 465[03:00:45] <Tom-_> okay i have to go too, ping me when you get back
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• 469[03:03:50] <Lady_Aleena> replaced-url
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• 471[03:04:52] <LtL> i have replaced-url
• 472[03:04:56] <indomitable> Lady_Aleena, you're meant to be watcihng SG1
• 473[03:05:01] <indomitable> why are you still here
• 474[03:05:02] <indomitable> SG1 it
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• 476[03:06:17] <LtL> [ 10.764414] NVRM: No NVIDIA graphics adapter found!
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• 478[03:07:18] <jmcnaught> NVRM: The NVIDIA GeForce 210 GPU installed in this system is supported through the NVIDIA 340.xx Legacy drivers… …The 390.116 NVIDIA driver will ignore this GPU.
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• 480[03:07:23] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, [ 9.694725] NVRM: No NVIDIA graphics adapter found!
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• 482[03:07:54] <LtL> I don't know nvidia config, but i think she needs it or X -configure
• 483[03:08:11] <dvs> I don't know about nvidia either.
• 484[03:08:28] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, okay so wrong nvidia driver. this appears to be the only problem so far
• 485[03:08:33] <jmcnaught> ,v nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver
• 486[03:08:34] <judd> Package: nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver on amd64 -- stretch/non-free: 340.106-2~deb9u1; stretch-backports/non-free: 340.107-2~bpo9+1; buster/non-free: 340.107-4; sid/non-free: 340.107-4
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• 490[03:09:55] <Tom-_> nvidia-detect was supposed to do it, but she didn't say exactly what she did, so maybe it wasn't the right thing, but i'll tell her to install that package, jmcnaught
• 491[03:09:58] <Tom-_> or you can
• 492[03:10:48] <ksk> I am positive we will take part in her transition to a new debian release for another two weeks or so ;)
• 493[03:11:12] <LtL> apt install xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-340xx maybe?
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• 495[03:11:33] <ksk> but yeah, did not see any bougous messages in dmesg, apart from nvidia, either.
• 496[03:12:10] <Tom-_> i agree with her, Debian's supposed to handle all these things (well, there's a caveat for backports, but i still think that's on debian's side)
• 497[03:12:11] <Lady_Aleena> I'm now as afk, going to wat dinner, nvidia-detect told me to install a driver, so I did.
• 498[03:12:25] <Tom-_> yeah, i may have given the wrong instructions
• 499[03:12:29] <Lady_Aleena> s/wat/eat/;
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• 501[03:12:41] <LtL> 3 choices, nvidia blob, nvidia legacy driver or nvidia nouveau driver
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• 503[03:13:09] <ksk> granted, "getting the right video driver" in linux is a topic on its own I suppose..
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• 505[03:13:35] <annadane> fire nvidia into the sun, for starters
• 506[03:13:42] <annadane> then civilization can progress
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• 508[03:14:07] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: so your /etc/X11/xorg.conf should be populated if nvidia-detect worked
• 509[03:14:20] <LtL> maybe!
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• 511[03:15:07] <annadane> i'm a bit groggy and not really able to follow the conversation but replaced-url
• 512[03:15:23] <LtL> Tom-_: no, you did good bro
• 513[03:15:36] <Tom-_> yeah mostly, but thank you
• 514[03:15:41] <LtL> nvidia $hit is all it needs
• 515[03:16:47] <LtL> im still wondering when i changed pastebinit to paste.debian.net
• 516[03:16:58] <LtL> don't recall.
• 517[03:17:01] <ksk> its the default.
• 518[03:17:15] <ksk> (or, are you the maintainer? :D)
• 519[03:17:19] <LtL> ksk: i thought so
• 520[03:18:21] <LtL> ksk: hah, negative on the maintainer
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• 522[03:19:25] <LtL> Lady_Aleena's box was a fright, i think she'll have it kickin in no time
• 523[03:19:57] <LtL> hrm, thqat didn't quite sound right
• 524[03:20:12] <Tom-_> $ echo hello world 5 | pastebinit replaced-url
• 525[03:20:27] <ksk> !doesnotwork
• 526[03:20:28] <Tom-_> it's not giving me a full URL back, but paste.debian.net is indeed the default
• 527[03:20:59] <ksk> why would you put "paste.debian.org" after a pastebinit command..
• 528[03:21:25] <Tom-_> it's just a bad paste. it really looks like this: tomg@anguish:~$ echo hello world 5 | pastebinit newline replaced-url
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• 530[03:21:36] <ksk> hups. Tom-_ are you on sid by any chance? its broken here on my box, too..
• 531[03:21:38] <LtL> Tom-_: just pipe to pastebinit
• 532[03:21:41] <Tom-_> where paste.debian.net is the output
• 533[03:21:47] <Tom-_> LtL, very funny :)
• 534[03:21:53] <Tom-_> ksk, this is Debian 9 on a cloud (VPS)
• 535[03:22:38] <ksk> k, copy that for debian9. maybe the paste.debian.net service did change? :X
• 536[03:23:39] <ksk> replaced-url
• 537[03:23:40] <judd> Bug replaced-url
• 538[03:23:40] <LtL> Tom-_: if i repeat your cmd i get a blank url too.
• 539[03:23:47] <ksk> "paste.debian.net currently blocks submissions with less than "3 or two line breaks"."
• 540[03:23:56] <ksk> try adding some more linebreaks :X
• 541[03:24:26] <ksk> "<b>Thanks to some spammers you need to provide at least 3 or two linebreaks</b><br>
• 542[03:24:29] <ksk> "
• 543[03:25:01] <ksk> bug from 2012 btw :D
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• 545[03:25:10] <ksk> (one could argue: no a bug.)
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• 548[03:27:01] <Tom-_> ah... i used up your time for no good reason
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• 597[04:33:26] <jim> why would jackd2 depend on libreadline? makes zero sense
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• 603[04:36:31] <Tom-_> in the source code ./example-clients/transport.c:#ifdef HAVE_READLINE
• 604[04:36:47] <Tom-_> only the examples and the python scripts use readline though, so you could be right
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• 607[04:38:40] <somiaj> that is probably a question for the developers.
• 608[04:38:55] <somiaj> My guess is there are features which use libreadline.
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• 614[04:40:39] <somiaj> Could be an old dependecy that just hasn't been fully flushed out by the devs as well.
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• 617[04:41:51] <Tom-_> it's definitely in the examples
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• 621[04:46:44] <jim> I can hardly get on the debian-dev channel to ask them :)
• 622[04:47:35] <jim> but... not yourfault :)
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• 624[04:47:53] <somiaj> I mean ask the jackd2 developers, they wrote the code that needs that libary.
• 625[04:48:38] <jim> let me ask you this... is it a direct (that is, in the jackd2 package metadata) dependency?
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• 627[04:49:14] <Tom-_> yes, but it's only for an example transport file, and it looks like it can be compiled without it
• 628[04:49:19] <jim> we4ll let's see
• 629[04:49:25] <Tom-_> i think if you take libreadline-dev out of debian/control it might compile fine
• 630[04:49:36] <jim> ,depends jackd2
• 631[04:49:37] <judd> Package jackd2 in stretch/amd64 -- depends: libasound2 (>= 1.0.18), libc6 (>= 2.17), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.9.14), libexpat1 (>= 2.0.1), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.0), libjack-jackd2-0 (= 1.9.10+20150825git1ed50c92~dfsg-5), libopus0 (>= 1.1), libreadline7 (>= 6.0), libsamplerate0 (>= 0.1.7), libsndfile1 (>= 1.0.20), libstdc++6 (>= 5.2), debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0, python:any, coreutils (>= 4.0), python-dbus.
• 632[04:50:28] <jim> so that would confirm it is a direct dependency...
• 633[04:51:12] <Tom-_> am i being ignored?
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• 635[04:52:23] <jim> Tom-_, you mean as a build depend?
• 636[04:52:45] <Schwarzbaer_> apt-get dist upgrade just finished with this rather dangerous looking bit: replaced-url
• 637[04:53:09] <Tom-_> okay i guess i'm not being ignored. jim, i don't understand your question. i think readline is not a build depend if i understand that correctly, for jackd2
• 638[04:53:55] <somiaj> Schwarzbaer_: doesn't seem that bad. I would check dmesg, mabe "dmesg | grep firmware", (though after you boot into the new kernel). If firmware is missing you can install it from non-free
• 639[04:54:11] <jmcnaught> Schwarzbaer_: those files are in the firmware-misc-nonfree package in non-free
• 640[04:54:59] <jim> Tom-_, my question centers around the fact that jack is something that lives in the background, and as far as I know doesn't have any kind of a "shell"
• 641[04:55:11] <jim> especially not an interactive one
• 642[04:55:24] <Tom-_> well the transport.c example file appears to be interactive
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• 644[04:55:45] <Tom-_> if this transport.c file is not included in Debian then maybe the dependency on libreadline should be removed
• 645[04:56:40] <jim> so the readline call could be replaced by something lower level, if it's being used to read some kind of config file
• 646[04:56:43] <Schwarzbaer_> Thanks. This also looked rather gnarly: replaced-url
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• 648[04:57:57] <somiaj> Schwarzbaer_: maybe run apt -f install and see what it does. Looks like maybe you had some packag eon your system or source during the dist-upgrade that caused apt to remove that package.
• 649[04:58:57] <somiaj> jim: this still seems like a discussion for the jackd developers. Debian most often uses the depends that the ./configure script suggests even if they are optional (though not sure in this case)
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• 651[04:59:30] <Tom-_> yeah that does look gnarly, Schwarzbaer_, i'd do what somiaj suggested
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• 654[04:59:51] <jmcnaught> jim: Tom-_: I just downloaded the jackd2 package and it's got a binary and man page for jack_transport which "provides command-line control…"
• 655[04:59:52] <somiaj> and as Tom-_ has investigated, if this is just some dependency that is just there due to ./configure and isn't really needed in debian, you could file a wishlist bug to have it removed.
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• 657[05:01:32] <somiaj> jmcnaught: oh nice find.
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• 659[05:02:18] <Tom-_> yes nice
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• 663[05:04:20] <Schwarzbaer_> It gives me the "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:" list and does nothing else. On the upside, the first of those packages is installed and working.
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• 665[05:05:14] <Tom-_> Schwarzbaer_, i don't really see what's in common with those packages, so i'm not guessing which package may have been wrongly removed
• 666[05:07:58] <somiaj> Schwarzbaer_: you may want to run apt autoremove. You could have also had some software removed during this, which you may want need to install if you find something you are use to having is missing. If you dont' see any problems, it is safe to ignore that.
• 667[05:08:09] <somiaj> you may also want to run aptitude search ~o to find obsolete packategs.
• 668[05:08:37] <Schwarzbaer_> \o/ Thanks.
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• 672[05:11:35] <jim> jmcnaught: hmm. maybe a factoring of the jackd2 package, factoring out the transport thing into (say) jack-cli-transport would do it
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• 676[05:13:28] <jmcnaught> jim: do what? What's wrong with having libreadline7 installed? It's depended on by lots of other things too.
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• 682[05:20:20] <jim> jmcnaught: I just didn't think it made sense with something that can be controlled by other means. I didn't know at the time that this transport.c existed. since all that's true, it could be factored out... I'm just saying I don't think readline should be necessary for a daemon, but there is a reason for it... so, it could stay as it is, or be factored out
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• 687[05:23:57] <jim> if someone -wants- a text transport for jack, -then- it makes sense to have readline
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• 695[05:31:57] <annadane> i have a really stupid question, does nvidia have its own compositor? should i just turn off xfce's?
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• 699[05:33:25] <magic_ninja> annadane, your compositor will use your graphics card's api
• 700[05:33:27] <magic_ninja> iirc
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• 725[05:54:09] <melpy> TwT
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• 734[06:09:16] <magic_ninja> hey somiaj, just to let you know, I was asking around about a per-process network monitor. Nethogs does the trick and there are lots of GUI's available for it.
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• 736[06:09:26] <magic_ninja> but nethogs itself is in the repo
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• 761[06:29:59] <Lady_Aleena> I left for a little while to eat dinner. Does anyone have a really big buffer? My buffer was only 50 lines, and all advice is now scrolled. So does anyone have a record of what advice I was given to fix my problem?
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• 763[06:30:30] <ksk> Lady_Aleena: install the right nvidia drivers
• 764[06:30:30] <han-solo> I think, this is logged somewhere, can't recall exactly where
• 765[06:30:40] <ksk> iirc your dmesg told you which one to use alredy
• 766[06:30:45] <ksk> han-solo: nah, its borken.
• 767[06:30:58] <ksk> (the official logging..)
• 768[06:31:02] <PaddyF> as far as i know (without knowing the context) there is a tool called nvidia-detect that helps you to find the right driver
• 769[06:31:03] <han-solo> ksk: oh, it broke :/
• 770[06:31:11] <Lady_Aleena> IRC on mobile is hard to use.
• 771[06:32:09] <Lady_Aleena> Ksk, I did according to nvidia-detect.
• 772[06:32:30] <jelly> !irclog
• 773[06:32:30] <dpkg> it has been said that irclog is #debian on <freenode> is logged at replaced-url
• 774[06:32:59] <ksk> this is the broken one :P mr rikers is not-reachable, I tried some weeks ago ;)
• 775[06:33:20] <jim> Lady_Aleena, for one, "<annadane> i'm a bit groggy and not really able to follow the conversation but replaced-url
• 776[06:33:38] <han-solo> jim: only upto `feb` is there ?
• 777[06:33:39] <jelly> hm, the listener bot is here.
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• 779[06:33:52] <Unit193> ksk: I have no problem going to the site.
• 780[06:34:22] <annadane> nvidia-detect will tell you what to install but the actual debian wiki recommends headers and sed and all that stuff; how that applies with a half broken system though, IHNFC
• 781[06:34:34] <ksk> Unit193: good for you. do you see up-to-date logs though?
• 782[06:34:36] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: You had this message in your logs: NVRM: The NVIDIA GeForce 210 GPU installed in this system is supported through the NVIDIA 340.xx Legacy drivers… …The 390.116 NVIDIA driver will ignore this GPU.
• 783[06:35:17] <annadane> i don't even remmeber if, say, apt install nvidia-driver works properly on new systems if you absolutely need the syntax, but anyway, off topic
• 784[06:35:18] <Unit193> ksk: Seems the latest one listed is 2019-05-30, wonder if any are unlisted.
• 785[06:35:26] <han-solo> jelly: only upto `feb` is there ?
• 786[06:35:32] <han-solo> sorry jim, bad tab
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• 788[06:35:47] <jelly> han-solo: it's broken alright
• 789[06:36:06] <han-solo> Okay
• 790[06:36:08] <Unit193> jelly: Scroll down and you get through May as well.
• 791[06:36:39] <jim> dad had a sad mad... tabacab?
• 792[06:37:28] <annadane> when they do it, you're never there, when they show it, you stop and stare; abacab, he's in anywhere...
• 793[06:37:30] <jelly> Unit193: no you don't
• 794[06:37:41] <jelly> Unit193: look at the file lengths
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• 796[06:38:38] <Unit193> jelly: Heh, well then. You get *one* line of each..Nice.
• 797[06:38:39] <han-solo> broken at `feb 14`. Interesting date :)
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• 800[06:41:22] <Lady_Aleena> My eyes are going wonky. Glasses off for mobile, glasses on for everything else.
• 801[06:42:28] <Lady_Aleena> Do any of you think you will need the tweets I posted earlier?
• 802[06:42:29] <PaddyF> wonky :)
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• 805[06:44:37] <jim> protect your eyesight any way you can
• 806[06:44:52] <PaddyF> remember to drink water
• 807[06:45:22] <han-solo> s/drink water/breath/
• 808[06:45:38] <Lady_Aleena> I'll get back in front of my computer in a few minutes. Right now I'm in my living room.
• 809[06:45:39] <PaddyF> yes, breath in, breath out. find the right rhythm :P
• 810[06:46:24] <Lady_Aleena> Once at the computer, I will try to fix the nvidia problem.
• 811[06:46:40] <annadane> i recommend a sledgehammer
• 812[06:46:59] <han-solo> nvidia sucks!
• 813[06:47:07] * han-solo waiting for people with pitchforks....
• 814[06:47:15] <PaddyF> :D
• 815[06:47:35] <annadane> i promise you will have a workable computer by the end of 2021
• 816[06:48:00] <PaddyF> that is when stretch is old_old_oldstable
• 817[06:48:19] <annadane> and then we can weed out the stretch-backports dependency problems and the fun starts again
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• 819[06:48:34] <Lady_Aleena> Annadane, I would count on that.
• 820[06:49:00] <Lady_Aleena> s/would/would not/;
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• 823[06:52:48] <Lady_Aleena> I am at my keyboard, again.
• 824[06:53:33] <Lady_Aleena> Now, do I uninstall the current driver?
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• 827[06:55:18] <Lady_Aleena> I get the same recommendation as before, nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver.
• 828[06:55:34] <jmcnaught> Is that the one that you installed before?
• 829[06:56:08] <Lady_Aleena> Yes
• 830[06:56:42] <Lady_Aleena> The 3rd or 4th to last thing before reboot.
• 831[06:58:17] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: if you run "apt-cache policy nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver" is 340.106-2~deb9u1 the version that is installed?
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• 837[07:00:47] <Lady_Aleena> That is what I have.
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• 841[07:02:27] <magic_ninja> What drivers have you installed / messed with lately or ever?
• 842[07:03:02] <Lady_Aleena> Just nvidia today when upgrading.
• 843[07:03:19] <magic_ninja> ohh, so you are ending up in a terminal?
• 844[07:03:23] <magic_ninja> Your display manager isn't loading?
• 845[07:04:00] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: Okay, I think it could be because you installed the nvidia driver before the linux-headers-amd64 package was installed. You probably need to do something to trigger DKMS to build the kernel nvidia kernel module.
• 846[07:04:59] <magic_ninja> so the nvidia package uses dkms to build the module?
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• 848[07:06:12] <Lady_Aleena> I'm also reading replaced-url
• 849[07:06:27] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: maybe "apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-legacy-340xx-kernel-dkms" ? And watch the screen to make sure there are no errors about DKMS.
• 850[07:07:22] <Lady_Aleena> I will try that. The above page has something about xorg on it and headers too.
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• 857[07:16:51] <Lady_Aleena> I did not see any errors.
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• 859[07:17:11] <Lady_Aleena> Reboot?
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• 861[07:18:05] <jmcnaught> sure
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• 863[07:19:15] <Lady_Aleena> It still says failed load kernel modules on boot.
• 864[07:20:37] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: "journalctl | nc termbin.com 9999"
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• 869[07:22:39] <Lady_Aleena> replaced-url
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• 887[07:24:32] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: You still have this message in your logs: NVRM: The NVIDIA GeForce 210 GPU installed in this system is supported through the NVIDIA 340.xx Legacy drivers… …The 390.116 NVIDIA driver will ignore this GPU." Do you have the nvidia-driver and nvidia-kernel-dkms packages installed?
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• 898[07:26:17] <Lady_Aleena> Yes, 390.116-1 for both.
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• 900[07:26:54] <jelly> if your card needs nvidia legacy driver, best remove the nvidia current driver
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• 903[07:27:00] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: that explains that error message then. You need to get rid of that version of the nvidia driver.
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• 907[07:27:48] <Lady_Aleena> So apt-get purge both?
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• 909[07:28:31] <no_gravity> Good Morning
• 910[07:28:36] <no_gravity> Deleting files is slower then I thought.
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• 912[07:29:10] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: yes but there's probably more nvidia current driver packages installed than just those two.
• 913[07:29:41] <Lady_Aleena> Any way to find them all?
• 914[07:29:52] <no_gravity> I am deleting abou 30k files via "find . -mtime +180 -exec rm {} \;" right now and it deletes about 100 files per second.
• 915[07:30:41] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: could you make a paste of "aptitude search ~i~nnvidia"? those are tildes ~ not dashes.
• 916[07:31:57] <Lady_Aleena> replaced-url
• 917[07:32:13] <jmcnaught> replaced-url
• 918[07:32:22] <Lady_Aleena> Yes.
• 919[07:33:51] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: I would try "aptitude purge nvidia-kernel-dkms" and see if it wants to remove a bunch of other nvidia-foo packages
• 920[07:34:48] <Lady_Aleena> Is apt-get purge okay, I'm not that familiar with aptitude.
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• 925[07:35:40] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: the reason I suggested aptitude is because it will remove the dependencies at the same time, instead of needing a second step with "apt-get autoremove", because I don't know how many other packages marked auto you have that might also get autoremoved
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• 927[07:36:16] <Lady_Aleena> Aptitude it is then.
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• 929[07:36:40] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: you can make a paste with the -s for simulate, it won't change anything : aptitude -s purge nvidia-kernel-dkms
• 930[07:37:32] <Lady_Aleena> Already started. And should I say yes to everything?
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• 933[07:37:51] <annadane> if it's -s then it shouldn't give you prompts
• 934[07:38:31] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: I don't know if you should say yes to everything but if it's just removing a bunch of nvidia packages it should be fine
• 935[07:38:39] <Lady_Aleena> Annadane, I started it before mcnaught suggested -s.
• 936[07:39:05] <jelly> no_gravity: that's calling a separate rm process 100 times a second. Use GNU find's -delete instead of -exec rm {} \; or at least use -exec rm {} +
• 937[07:39:16] <Lady_Aleena> Jmcnaught, there is a lot more, including installing things.
• 938[07:39:40] <jelly> no_gravity: replaced-url
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• 940[07:42:12] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: aptitude might be removing other packages that were installed automatically but are no longer needed, but I don't know why it would want to install anything. What did it install?
• 941[07:42:22] <jelly> no_gravity: an ext4 fs on a consumer hard disk ought to be able to delete about a thousand files a second
• 942[07:42:24] <Lady_Aleena> Ctrl-c out of it, and now waiting for the -s to finish.
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• 945[07:43:30] <jelly> when did apt-get gain a purge command?
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• 948[07:43:51] <Lady_Aleena> I don't know.
• 949[07:44:18] <Lady_Aleena> And still waiting.
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• 951[07:44:59] <magic_ninja> jelly, apt-get has had a purge command for at least 10 years.
• 952[07:44:59] <jelly> a long time ago apparently, apt in squeeze has it
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• 957[07:46:06] <Lady_Aleena> I should have used tee so I knew what was going on. Still no link yet.
• 958[07:46:36] <no_gravity> jelly: Interesting. Well, now all files are deleted.
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• 961[07:47:16] <no_gravity> jelly: What does + instead of \; do?
• 962[07:47:28] <jelly> read the fine link.
• 963[07:48:45] <Lady_Aleena> With apt get being interactive
• 964[07:49:02] <Lady_Aleena> With aptitude being interactive could it be waiting for input from me?
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• 966[07:50:32] <magic_ninja> you can use -y to default to yes on all packages.
• 967[07:50:34] <pingfloyd> jelly: it's had it for a few releases
• 968[07:50:57] <pingfloyd> I want to say maybe around Etch
• 969[07:50:58] <no_gravity> jelly: Uh oh, I am scared of parallelism. I prefer things to happen in order.
• 970[07:51:39] <jelly> no_gravity: better avoid using CPUs with multiple threads and cores, then!
• 971[07:52:26] <no_gravity> jelly: The great thing about multiple cores and running things sequentially is that I know my command will only clog up one cpu. And the others can still do stuff.
• 972[07:52:31] <Lady_Aleena> It's not doing anything. I'll try -sy
• 973[07:52:59] <no_gravity> jelly: Although even after readin the fine link, I am not sure if + is doing something in parallel.
• 974[07:53:13] <jelly> "happen in order" is almost always a lie, you're just choosing the layer at which the system lies to you
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• 976[07:54:11] <Lady_Aleena> replaced-url
• 977[07:55:06] <Lady_Aleena> replaced-url
• 978[07:55:34] <jelly> no_gravity: -exec {} + just passes multiple args to the command
• 979[07:55:49] <no_gravity> jelly: Yeah, I guessed so.
• 980[07:56:01] <no_gravity> jelly: -delete is probably best.
• 981[07:56:23] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: okay, that's not what we want.
• 982[07:56:26] <jelly> no_gravity: you don't have to guess! Tell find to run echo rm {} ... and see what it outputs
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• 987[07:57:05] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: you could try "apt-get -s purge nvidia-driver nvidia-kernel-dkms"
• 988[07:57:36] <Lady_Aleena> Do we want me to nuke my system, and have me start from scratch?
• 989[07:58:30] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: probably not necessary, it's just messed up because nvidia-driver in jessie was 340.xx, but nvidia-driver in stretch is 390.xx (which doesn't work for your card) and the 340.xx driver got moved into a different package
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• 992[08:00:40] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: might as well purge those dependencies at the same time: apt-get purge nvidia-driver-bin nvidia-kernel-support nvidia-driver nvidia-kernel-dkms
• 993[08:01:07] <Lady_Aleena> So just do it now?
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• 996[08:01:52] <Lady_Aleena> Sorry. Still on my phone.
• 997[08:02:10] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: as long as it's just those four packages it removes, or only nvidia ones. If it wants to remove more use -s and make a paste.
• 998[08:02:22] <Lady_Aleena> And it doesn't save the buffer.
• 999[08:02:40] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: apt-get purge nvidia-driver-bin nvidia-kernel-support nvidia-driver nvidia-kernel-dkms
• 1000[08:05:54] <Lady_Aleena> They are gone. Rebooting now.
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• 1002[08:07:26] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: you might need to reinstall the legacy 340.xx version of the driver again, I don't know I don't have anything that uses DKMS thankfully.
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• 1004[08:07:43] <Lady_Aleena> Something's different, no big FAILED now, but not getting I to
• 1005[08:08:02] <Lady_Aleena> getting into kde.
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• 1007[08:08:42] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: make another paste of journalctl then
• 1008[08:08:43] <Lady_Aleena> Is that a grub thing, I can't remember.
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• 1010[08:10:14] <Lady_Aleena> replaced-url
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• 1012[08:10:34] <han-solo> !source
• 1013[08:10:35] <dpkg> As an overview: to work with Debian source packages, add a <deb-src> line to your sources list; cd to a location with free space; download the source package with <apt-get source>; edit <debian/rules> to taste; use <dpkg-buildpackage> to build the new .deb. For more details, also ask me about <package recompile> <backport> <nmg> <policy> <source package>
• 1014[08:11:09] <Lady_Aleena> replaced-url
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• 1017[08:12:15] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: well now it's complaining that another module is loaded using the video card and that's why the nvidia driver won't load.
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• 1019[08:13:34] <Lady_Aleena> Please, give me a minute. My eyes are starting to hurt bad.
• 1020[08:13:39] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: there's supposed to be a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ that blacklists the nouveau driver, that could be missing.
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• 1027[08:16:21] <Lady_Aleena> Pasted dir list
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• 1038[08:21:44] <Lady_Aleena> replaced-url
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• 1041[08:22:22] <Lady_Aleena> 2 blacklist files
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• 1043[08:22:48] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: the file that blacklists nouveau does not appeart to be there.
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• 1047[08:25:24] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: one thing you could try for tonight is looking in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ that are nvidia related, and moving them to /root or somewhere safe. If the kernel is loading nouveau, you could probably use that at least for tonight
• 1048[08:25:31] <jmcnaught> until you get the nvidia driver situation figured out
• 1049[08:26:30] <Lady_Aleena> I don't think there's much more that I can do the night anyway. The constant shifting focus from my phone to my computer screen is making me nauseated. I have got one massive headache coming on.
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• 1052[08:26:56] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: sorry you've had such a rough upgrade
• 1053[08:27:22] <Lady_Aleena> Thank you very much I just wish I had better hardware so I didn't have to use funky software.
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• 1055[08:28:22] <Lady_Aleena> If I could get into KDE or XFCE so I could use hex chat my headache would probably go away.
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• 1058[08:30:41] <Lady_Aleena> I wanna shut down for the night. Thank you everyone. Have a good one.
• 1059[08:30:51] <PaddyF> o/
• 1060[08:30:53] <jmcnaught> Good night
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• 1064[08:33:07] <annadane> saga 5 of 107
• 1065[08:33:18] <annadane> good grief. buy AMD, people.
• 1066[08:34:28] <PaddyF> 2,5 hours wasted on this ruby adventure
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• 1071[08:37:42] <PaddyF> i attemped to fix the version mismatch of the kernel. now i have "dpkg -l" list "linux-image-4.19.0-0.bpo.5-amd64-unsigned 4.19.37-3~bpo9+1" but uname -a says: "4.19.0-0.bpo.5-amd64"
• 1072[08:37:54] <PaddyF> thats close but still not a match
• 1073[08:38:03] <Schwarzbaer_> Umm... After my dist-upgrade to buster earlier, I suddenly have only a Dummy Output sound output, according to Gnome. Any ideas how to approach debugging that?
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• 1075[08:38:23] <PaddyF> buster is testing --> irc.oftc.net #debian-next
• 1076[08:38:33] <Schwarzbaer_> Thanks.
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• 1080[08:40:46] <PaddyF> hmmm, yes. i am tempted to try buster
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• 1082[08:41:30] <PaddyF> that backports stuff for wine did nothing good
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• 1088[08:46:39] * han-solo is trying buster...
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• 1092[08:47:31] <han-solo> on a VM, that is :)
• 1093[08:47:35] <annadane> not like it matters but it's curious how "emacs" defaults to 24 in stretch (when 25 is available) but 26 in buster
• 1094[08:47:59] <annadane> and 25 is also available in buster
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• 1101[08:51:10] <Neobenedict> can iptables act as a router supporting gigabit speeds
• 1102[08:51:40] <PaddyF> my gosh, the list of rc bugs is long
• 1103[08:52:00] <annadane> most are for stretch
• 1104[08:52:10] <annadane> it's basically 80 unpatched bugs right now for buster
• 1105[08:52:11] <PaddyF> yep, i saw
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• 1108[08:53:25] <annadane> so get to work!
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• 1111[08:54:37] <PaddyF> :D
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• 1114[08:56:52] <annadane> i just put buster in my sources.list for fun, commented out the stretch lines, tried an apt upgrade and... yep... conflicting nvidia packages preventing update...
• 1115[08:56:59] <annadane> sigh
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• 1118[08:58:13] <annadane> i'll likely need to use aptitude when buster actually releases
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• 1154[09:19:42] <Barabacha> can I set an IP address to static using nmcli?
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• 1162[09:24:07] <han-solo> Butt3rfly: `nmlci connection modify <connection> ipv4.method manual` ?
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• 1166[09:25:06] <han-solo> then you'd set the `ipv4.address <ip>`, i guess
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• 1172[09:26:04] <han-solo> Barabacha: ^
• 1173[09:26:21] <han-solo> sorry, Butt3rfly (bad tab, argh)
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• 1175[09:26:40] <Butt3rfly> :) no problem, good morning
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• 1177[09:27:13] <han-solo> i'm messing people names too many times this morning, i will go for walk, me thinks :) ...
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• 1187[09:34:40] <annadane> man 1 tabcompletion
• 1188[09:34:57] <annadane> "description: stop being an idiot and don't type before coffee"
• 1189[09:35:20] <annadane> see also: break from computer(8)
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• 1210[09:48:36] <annadane> stop that
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• 1249[10:21:48] <hans_> iirc there is a debian-live channel, where is it?
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• 1251[10:21:59] <Habbie> on oftc i bet
• 1252[10:22:08] <Habbie> if it's not on freenode :)
• 1253[10:23:35] <Unit193> There is indeed.
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• 1256[10:27:39] <hans_> yeah it's oftc, found it
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• 1258[10:27:48] <hans_> (`#debian-live` @ oftc)
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• 1260[10:28:10] <Barabacha> is mysql still available for Debian or do I have to use mariaDB?
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• 1263[10:28:57] <hans_> Barabacha, in debian10 `apt install mysql-server` gives you mysql
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• 1266[10:29:12] <hans_> not sure about debian 9
• 1267[10:29:20] <Barabacha> didn't mysql license change or something?
• 1268[10:29:32] <hans_> idk
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• 1275[10:33:08] <Habbie> hans_, in 10, apt says mysql-server does not exist
• 1276[10:33:29] <Habbie> replaced-url
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• 1278[10:34:01] <Habbie> in 9 it gives you maria
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• 1281[10:36:12] <hans_> Barabacha, if you run wget replaced-url
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• 1288[10:40:20] <hans_> Barabacha, anyhow replaced-url
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• 1292[10:41:04] <hans_> Habbie, ok nvm, my bad
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• 1304[10:44:46] <Gurdon> Hey there, I'd check a lot of methods to change my dns server on debian, but that wasn't successfull, What should I do?
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• 1341[11:05:42] <Barabacha> what's the difference between mysql-server and mysql-community-server?
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• 1353[11:11:51] <Barabacha> when I try to apt-get install mysql-community-server, the system asks me to insert the disc "Media change: please insert the disc labeled
• 1354[11:11:53] <Barabacha> 'Debian GNU/Linux 8.5.0 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20160604-15:35'
• 1355[11:11:54] <Barabacha> in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter" any idea why?
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• 1359[11:13:40] <Ticho_> you probably have the DVD media defined as a package source for apt
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• 1457[12:18:36] <diffy> hi,have tails os related question ,but since its based on debian...i have tails installed on 8GB usb-drive,why does tails take more than 4gb although the iso is just about 2gb?is there some way to make that tails-taken GBs available to the persistent volume?
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• 1459[12:19:13] <PaddyF> diffy: bad ethics. "this sounds like a car sale but i want to buy perfume"
• 1460[12:19:34] <themill> diffy: I don't think there's much of your question that's not tails-specific.
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• 1466[12:24:03] <enveezee> I am trying to run HDsentinel on a machine, its a 32bit binary, I am on amd64, I just enabled multiarch and updated, what do I need exactly? just libc6:i386 to run this?
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• 1514[12:55:31] <tw> if there's a 64-bit version available, why bother?
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• 1516[12:56:35] <jelly> enveezee: yes.
• 1517[12:56:36] <hans_> enveezee, you sure there isn't a 64bit build available?
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• 1519[12:57:47] <jelly> or no, sorry. I have a 32bit installation but use a 64bit hdsentinel binary :-)
• 1520[12:58:29] <jelly> it's likely the 32bit one also uses just glibc but I can't confirm it.
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• 1565[13:33:26] <shibboleth> anyone know how to make autodetached screen processes respawn the child proc if it dies? (typically buffer underrun of video inout)?
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• 1576[13:42:08] <jelly> shibboleth: screen does not do that.
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• 1579[13:43:11] <jelly> if you need to run stuff as a service don't run it in screen, make a systemd unit with Restart=yes, or use a different process management tool
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• 1582[13:44:44] <shibboleth> yeah, i was actually looking into using systemd. most likely had done so long ago if it wasn't for my disdain for the baggage
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• 1584[13:45:42] <jelly> so go with daemontools or runit or monit or whatever
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• 1589[13:46:51] <tw> How do I prevent everything from graying out when it is unfocused?
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• 1592[13:48:20] <jelly> tw: that sounds like a highly wm or de specific symptom, which DE?
• 1593[13:48:33] <jelly> my KDE does not do that.
• 1594[13:49:14] <tw> pavucontrol does it, so does lxterminal. I presume it's gnome or at least GTK related. I do not have a full gnome stack installed so I can't test with all the tools.
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• 1596[13:50:22] <tw> If it's WM related, it's i3, which probably isn't doing anything interesting except setting focus.
• 1597[13:50:31] <jelly> it's not pavucontrol that does it, I use that as well
• 1598[13:50:58] <tw> I should mention this is buster. <.<
• 1599[13:51:08] <tw> And I may be in the wrong channel >.>
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• 1612[14:01:22] <willemb> was there just an interesting ntp hickup? we use debian.pool.ntp.org and a couple of hundred servers suddenly became 5 minutes behind
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• 1614[14:03:32] <tw> this is the focus fade I mean replaced-url
• 1615[14:03:57] <tw> it's like someone doesn't believe in multitasking.
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• 1619[14:04:54] <jelly> that honestly sounds like something gnome would impose
• 1620[14:06:00] <jelly> willemb: nope, but pool.ntp.org dns rotation is managed by pool.ntp.org people
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• 1623[14:06:51] <jelly> they have a mailing list or three so you might ask there
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• 1626[14:11:29] <oiaohm> tw: the in active greying out that is historic X11.
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• 1640[14:17:41] <tw> oiaohm: I don't think that's true. I mean xedit from x11-apps doesn't, and it has plenty of legacy controls in it.
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• 1644[14:19:09] <RoyK> oiaohm: yeah, we all miss twm
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• 1647[14:20:03] <DammitJim> what happened to him?
• 1648[14:20:16] <tw> Anyway, I'm not really interested in the legacy of focus-fading, I just want to fix the theme such that I can read when the window isn't focused.
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• 1650[14:20:22] <oiaohm> tw: RoyK mentioned one of the old windows managers to use to do it.
• 1651[14:20:27] <EdePopede> tw: i'd also blame gnome. same here btw with PA.
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• 1654[14:20:52] <oiaohm> Its not a new theming stunt its maintaining a old one.
• 1655[14:21:06] <oiaohm> That old one was when cpu cores were likely to be 1.
• 1656[14:21:20] <EdePopede> and no change for hexchat, only the border around the active inputline disappears
• 1657[14:21:29] <DammitJim> do you guys know what I need to change on slim to display on the whole screen? For some reason it only shows a 1920x1080 and the rest of my screen is black
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• 1660[14:22:34] <oiaohm> DammitJim: xrandr resolution change to the right resolution for screen.
• 1661[14:22:52] <DammitJim> it's a new 4K monitor
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• 1663[14:23:15] <DammitJim> actually, I don't know if slim is actually displaying in 1920x1080... it just looks like it
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• 1665[14:23:52] <oiaohm> DammitJim: is that half the screen with image.
• 1666[14:24:01] <DammitJim> pretty much
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• 1668[14:24:16] <oiaohm> Ok that could be a horrible double display in one.
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• 1675[14:26:14] <oiaohm> DammitJim: you will need to go into monitor settings of some form. replaced-url
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• 1677[14:26:40] <oiaohm> DammitJim: others when you do monitor dectect monitors turn out to be 2 screens in one.
• 1678[14:27:18] <EdePopede> what is the name of saving and rereading settings from hd with the live system?
• 1679[14:28:25] <DammitJim> hhmmmm
• 1680[14:28:30] <DammitJim> this is the monitor on a laptop
• 1681[14:28:46] <oiaohm> DammitJim: this does not mean it cannot be a 2 in controller.
• 1682[14:29:09] <oiaohm> DammitJim: basically you will need to get into monitor settings and see what you have.
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• 1686[14:29:56] <oiaohm> DammitJim: and be thankful you got a picture at all. There are some laptops the wrong screen resultion all you get is black screen.
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• 1688[14:30:34] <oiaohm> DammitJim: of course that makes it a total bugger to repair a broken windows on them.
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• 1716[14:47:59] <tw> Regarding control fading when application loses focus, I changed my gtk3 theme to Adapta and it's no longer a problem. I'll just leave it on adapta since I can read the controls now.
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• 1725[14:51:08] <EdePopede> tw: that would mean that Adapta simply has no different colors for elements on inactive windows i'd say
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• 1733[14:53:30] <tw> EdePopede: I think so too. Probably no css element change for that state, or hopefully a deliberate lack thereof.
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• 1738[14:54:34] <tw> I'll consider the high contrast theme if it means I never have to have the style-vs-function problem again. =/
• 1739[14:54:35] <EdePopede> it's a complete chaos anyway here. xfce, gtk2, gtk3, horrible.
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• 1741[14:55:07] <han-solo> no kde ?
• 1742[14:55:12] <EdePopede> maybe i should switch to opera, just to also have Qt included
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• 1744[14:55:43] <EdePopede> kde? with the 2GB RAM on this tiny old PC? noes :)
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• 1751[14:57:10] <han-solo> on the matter of memory. I didn't give enough storage for a VM with debian, and i did `dist-upgrade` on the last step, it just died :)
• 1752[14:57:31] <han-solo> Now, i need to extend the volume, and i feel like it;s too much work, so i just nuked it :)
• 1753[14:57:35] <han-solo> start over...
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• 1756[14:59:12] <EdePopede> i wish software was more careful about ressources in general. fill up the fs with $HOME and start something. first thing it will do is to open rw its config and cache and destroy it.
• 1757[14:59:21] <tw> han-solo: I know that feeling; du -sh /usr -> 24G
• 1758[14:59:44] <han-solo> tw: anyway, it's a VM, and i was just playing, no hard feelings :)
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• 1813[15:29:26] <EdePopede> the live stretch factoid needs an update. it points to the weekly testing builds and the other host is gone.
• 1814[15:29:54] <greycat> dpkg literal live stretch
• 1815[15:29:54] <dpkg> "live stretch" is "<reply> see live testing"
• 1816[15:30:02] <greycat> so, uh, yeah...
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• 1823[15:30:58] <greycat> !live jessie
• 1824[15:30:58] <dpkg> The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from replaced-url
• 1825[15:31:19] <EdePopede> was looking for some docs on persistent live btw...
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• 1830[15:33:06] <EdePopede> `live` also points to that host.
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• 1832[15:33:22] <EdePopede> oh, seems to bee the same, nvm
• 1833[15:33:25] <greycat> so what should <live stretch> actually say?
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• 1836[15:35:43] <EdePopede> hm. it is live and it is stable. the thing to go without touching the rest of the system. the tool to fix things. on your PC and on others.
• 1837[15:36:11] <EdePopede> and it follows the normal upgrade process i guess
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• 1839[15:36:35] <EdePopede> and it has all 6 DEs available.
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• 1848[15:39:36] <EdePopede> `debian live oldstable` also uses it and thus wheezy and maybe also some others for outdated versions
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• 1862[15:52:13] <JyZyXEL> will live buster release together with buster?
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• 1864[15:53:25] <greycat> JyZyXEL: consider asking #debian-next on the OFTC network
• 1865[15:53:36] <greycat> err, I meant #debian-live on the OFTC network
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• 1873[16:03:00] <jelly> JyZyXEL: yes, but usually installer images are ready before live images
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• 1875[16:03:37] <jelly> JyZyXEL: there already exist weekly builds for live buster images.
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• 1878[16:04:48] <JyZyXEL> ohh /weekly-live-builds/, i wasn't aware of that
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• 1888[16:11:36] <enveezee> jelly: I'd only seen one build for linux *shrug* I'd gotten it to work though. I just know I'd installed and ran smartctl and it said my drives were nearly dead
• 1889[16:11:58] <enveezee> idk why we can't seem to get this fixed.. I don't have a clear understanding of the issue
• 1890[16:12:23] <enveezee> I'm guessing its the typical non-conformity of manufacturers
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• 1893[16:14:15] <enveezee> but what I do know is, I bought two white label 3TB drives that turned out to be HGST drives, they have about 3mo uptime on them, and hdsentinel says they're in perfect condition with no errors and smartctl says they're ancient and failing
• 1894[16:15:12] <enveezee> I'd dare say we should stop even shipping smartmontools cause they're useless
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• 1897[16:16:48] <tds> enveezee: what does smartctl say exactly?
• 1898[16:17:39] <tds> some drive manufacturers do weird things with putting multiple pieces of information into one smart attribute, which can lead to odd-looking values
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• 1905[16:20:56] <jelly> enveezee: wut? There are like 4 different binary downloads next to each other
• 1906[16:21:17] <jelly> !hdsentinel
• 1907[16:21:17] <dpkg> A gratis but closed source <SMART> client with slightly more user-friendly output than <smartctl> and ability to read more USB devices than smartctl. Binaries for x86 and ARM at replaced-url
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• 1912[16:22:08] <jelly> 32 and 64 bit x86 are literally one line after the other
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• 1934[16:32:43] <PaddyF> i would like to setup my system so that i can create a snapshot that i can use to test some things without harming my main system
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• 1936[16:32:54] <PaddyF> what can i use for that?
• 1937[16:33:19] <slax0r> virtualization?
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• 1939[16:33:44] <PaddyF> the virtualized system is not the same then
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• 1942[16:34:30] <PaddyF> what i am looking for is: replaced-url
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• 1948[16:36:22] <enveezee> jelly: yeah I didnt go to that page, I went to the main download page and there is only one replaced-url
• 1949[16:36:53] <enveezee> tds: exactly? you want to see the output?
• 1950[16:37:11] <tds> sure, paste.debian.net
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• 1956[16:39:13] <enveezee> tds: replaced-url
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• 1958[16:39:27] <enveezee> tds: as you can see it says pre-fail or oldage on everything
• 1959[16:39:51] <tds> that's just describing what type that attribute is, it's the values you need to care about
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• 1961[16:40:24] <avu> PaddyF: LVM snapshots may work for this
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• 1963[16:40:34] <tds> eg if a decide was failing you might see reallocated sectors, so that's pre-fail, your drives look fine for that though
• 1964[16:40:40] <PaddyF> avu: like in the article?
• 1965[16:40:44] <tds> s/decide/drive/
• 1966[16:40:52] <Greyztar> hello,if i put hwaddress ether mac in my interfaces file am able to change mac,but i need it to change before interface comes up so i thought maybe to put something in the pre.up folder,what should i do?
• 1967[16:40:59] <avu> PaddyF: didn't read that article, read your question
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• 1970[16:41:12] <PaddyF> i thought i double check before i try something that is 11 years old
• 1971[16:41:19] <greycat> Greyztar: why are you trying to change your MAC address?
• 1972[16:41:29] <XsiSec> Hi folks I have moved some textfiles between users though I noticed '-rw-r--r--' though once I change the priveleges to 777 the files are empty am I doing something wrong?
• 1973[16:42:18] <XsiSec> also they have Chown -R myuser:myuser
• 1974[16:42:21] <Greyztar> greycat, it just began out of curiosity so i researched it and found a way,its mostly for experimenting ill admit
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• 1979[16:45:04] <greycat> XsiSec: choose *one* file. Tell us what you wanted to do with this file. Tell us what you actually did. Tell us what its state is now, e.g. "ls -ld thisfile". Tell us what you would like to be different.
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• 1981[16:45:42] <XsiSec> greycat, I just want to read the content of the textfile for instance with cat
• 1982[16:46:14] <XsiSec> '-rwxr-xr-x 1 xsisec xsisec 0 May 6 19:56 commands.txt'
• 1983[16:46:23] <greycat> it's an empty file
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• 1985[16:46:36] <math_> Yo
• 1986[16:46:51] <XsiSec> no shit sherlock thats what I seen all the time so I wonder if the files might got broken something.
• 1987[16:46:51] <EdePopede> *sigh* they link replaced-url
• 1988[16:47:05] <XsiSec> or something*
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• 1993[16:50:21] <greycat> 10:49 Topic for #debian-live: 9.9.0 live images published: replaced-url
• 1994[16:50:36] <greycat> does one of the deb.li things redirect to alioth?
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• 2000[16:53:34] <themill> EdePopede: few people pay attention to /topic and even fewer the chanserv url.
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• 2006[16:55:15] <OerHeks> greycat, not here..
• 2007[16:55:47] <greycat> I'm trying to figure out what EdePopede is talking about.
• 2008[16:55:58] <themill> greycat: the chanserv URL
• 2009[16:56:07] <EdePopede> was about to join the live channel
• 2010[16:56:21] <themill> nothing is stopping you
• 2011[16:56:29] <EdePopede> on a new network which is terra incognita to me
• 2012[16:56:37] <EdePopede> dragons and such!
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• 2014[17:00:21] <jhutchins_wk> EdePopede: Check out the oftc web page for how to register. There's an aditional step that freenode doesn't have.
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• 2016[17:00:50] <EdePopede> seems i did this already some years ago :>
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• 2049[17:24:40] <Neobenedict> how do I expand my zfs pool with 2 more identical drives to make a raid-10 like setup replaced-url
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• 2063[17:26:48] <jhutchins_wk> !zfs
• 2064[17:26:48] <dpkg> ZFS (originally Zettabyte File System) is a file system / logical volume manager developed by Sun Microsystems (replaced-url
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• 2080[17:34:54] <mason> Neobenedict: made a mirror vdev out of them and then add them to your pool.
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• 2083[17:37:11] <Neobenedict> i got it thanks
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• 2101[17:57:40] <bora> hello everyone
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• 2103[17:57:53] <bora> hopse you will be fine
• 2104[17:57:53] <melpy> Hi bora
• 2105[17:58:09] <melpy> I hope you will be fine :)
• 2106[17:58:35] <bora> which language for create tools for debian
• 2107[17:58:38] <bora> ?
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• 2111[18:01:06] <melpy> don't quite understand your question, but the most widely used programming language for debian packages is C
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• 2113[18:02:04] <jelly> bora: software in debian is written in a dozen different programming languages, c, c++, c#, python, ruby, perl, rust, go, java, scheme, haskell...
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• 2118[18:04:45] <bora> ok then I understood friends I can use all language
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• 2125[18:07:31] <enveezee> bora: bash, perl, and python are three scripting languages that are in any base system
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• 2128[18:10:17] <kidnextdoor> hi guys
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• 2130[18:10:35] <kidnextdoor> how do i show size of packages while searching with apt?
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• 2132[18:11:05] <greycat> I doubt apt can do that. aptitude, maybe.
• 2133[18:11:26] <ksk> what does the "size" field of "apt-cache show $pkg" tell?
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• 2136[18:11:59] <tharkun> Good $DAY I am looking for a CLI Calendar program that I can easily synchronize with my iPhone. I've read the pal documentation but I could not find a path to achieve it. Any suggestions?
• 2137[18:12:17] <greycat> wooledg:~$ apt-cache show bash | grep -i size
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• 2139[18:12:17] <greycat> Installed-Size: 6439
• 2140[18:12:17] <greycat> Size: 1377592
• 2141[18:12:38] <greycat> Installed-Size is in kilobytes, and Size is in bytes, I believe. Because reasons.
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• 2159[18:16:28] <greycat> remove the leading whitespace
• 2160[18:16:39] <petn-randall> trouble1: try without a leading space
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• 2163[18:17:14] <petn-randall> (eh, lag)
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• 2167[18:19:57] <trouble1> ls
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• 2204[18:48:34] <enveezee> kidnextdoor: replaced-url
• 2205[18:49:19] <enveezee> not real pretty and its a lil slow, but it does it :D
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• 2215[18:53:04] <enveezee> there is a python module for apt that could prob do it a bit more elegantly, but I think as far as bash goes and what the apt utils allow, thats about as good as it gets
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• 2222[18:57:19] <enveezee> either my bash-fu is getting better or I'm totally oblivious :P
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• 2238[19:07:35] <PaddyF> tough stuff. you cant open a luks container with a deb9 system when it was created with a deb10 system
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• 2240[19:08:00] <enveezee> ,v cryptsetup
• 2241[19:08:01] <judd> Package: cryptsetup on amd64 -- jessie: 2:1.6.6-5; stretch: 2:1.7.3-4; buster: 2:2.1.0-4; sid: 2:2.1.0-4; experimental: 2:2.2.0~rc0-1
• 2242[19:08:45] <enveezee> let this be a lesson to ya.. create filesystems in the oldest system you want to use them in
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• 2246[19:09:56] <enveezee> I stress often to people who use NTFS on linux, recreate the filesystem on linux before doing a lot of writing to it.. just because things come preformatted doesn't mean its ready to use.. those newer NTFS will get horribly corrupted
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• 2249[19:12:12] <PaddyF> i think i "dd" the entire drive then. seeing no alternative
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• 2252[19:12:55] <enveezee> what is it you're trying to accomplish?
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• 2254[19:13:48] <enveezee> because it wouldnt be that much trouble to install debootstrap and use it to install buster into a dir and run a v2 cryptsetup
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• 2256[19:13:58] <PaddyF> i wanted to experiment with lvm snapshots for backup purposes
• 2257[19:14:14] <PaddyF> enveezee: cool idea
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• 2259[19:14:46] <enveezee> never tried it but I dont see why a chroot wouldnt work in this case
• 2260[19:15:20] <PaddyF> i need /proc, /dev and /sys in that chroot, right?
• 2261[19:15:47] <enveezee> its a fairly standard thing to do.. you'd at the very least need /dev and probably /proc
• 2262[19:16:24] <enveezee> you could also use a vm, but I can't offhand think of a reason a chroot wouldnt work
• 2263[19:16:45] <enveezee> and its simpler to setup a chroot
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• 2268[19:18:10] <HelloBeer> Hey people. I have a question. I am trying to make an upgrade of my BIOS on my computer, running with debian 9. I have read that i will need fwupdmgr, which I installed. I downloaded on the manufacturer's website a .iso and a .cab. I searched the next step to do (how to use the program) on the internet but did not found, and I don't want to break my system. Do any of you knows how to install the new bios version ? Thanks !
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• 2275[19:20:13] <PaddyF> HelloBeer: just curious - whats in those iso and cab containers?
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• 2282[19:22:37] <enveezee> HelloBeer: do you have a link for these files?
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• 2286[19:23:42] <HelloBeer> PaddyF, it is said on the website that it is a new bios version.Do that answer your question or do you want to know exactly what's inside the file ?
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• 2288[19:24:09] <HelloBeer> No because it's a private website, but i can upload them (if it's not illegal ?)
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• 2290[19:24:27] <enveezee> a private website?
• 2291[19:24:47] <HelloBeer> Yeah, uuh, a website with an authentification needed to acces the download page
• 2292[19:24:49] <enveezee> why are you even considering upgrading this bios?
• 2293[19:25:03] <enveezee> what website is it?
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• 2296[19:25:44] <HelloBeer> I'm considering upgrading the bios because of a bug known with this bios verison causing a high pitch noise and that could be solved by upgrading the bios (it's a thinkpad T580 and the webiste is lenovo's)
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• 2300[19:26:32] <HelloBeer> If I double click on the .cas file, I have the debian software 0installer
• 2301[19:26:46] <HelloBeer> opening, is it a good idea to use it ?
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• 2313[19:30:30] <enveezee> replaced-url
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• 2318[19:32:02] <PaddyF> too bad. the "luksOpen" works but the install of lvm2 freezes (2 attempts)
• 2319[19:32:41] <dvs> Good. My model is not affected.
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• 2321[19:32:56] <Habbie> a model does not need to be listed to be affected
• 2322[19:33:23] <enveezee> PaddyF: if the chroot is bound to /dev/ and such, then the cryptsetup has opened and exposed the decrypted disk through the /dev/mapper/ interface and you no longer need the chroot, you can now access /dev/mapper/ outside of it
• 2323[19:33:29] <dvs> ok, I must be def then. ;-P
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• 2327[19:33:37] <HelloBeer> I don't see my model either but here is the noise.
• 2328[19:33:41] <Habbie> dvs, i did not say it -is- affected :)
• 2329[19:34:11] <HelloBeer> Thanks enveezee. I'm gonna read the "update bios" page and come back if I don't understand something.
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• 2333[19:34:32] <enveezee> maybe HelloBeer is deaf, which is why they hear a rining sound.. its called tinnitus
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• 2339[19:35:43] <PaddyF> its real, haha. muchos gracias
• 2340[19:35:48] <enveezee> personally I'd try far more ridiculous stuff before flashing the bios for a "maybe"
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• 2342[19:36:13] <enveezee> I'd try spreading coffee grounds around the laptop and cracking an egg over it
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• 2344[19:36:27] <HelloBeer> Nah, I can hear it stronger when i put my head closer.
• 2345[19:36:34] <HelloBeer> Upgrading the bios is that dangerous ?
• 2346[19:36:50] <PaddyF> yup
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• 2348[19:37:12] <enveezee> flashing random crap for no good reason to the chip that contains the software that drives the entire system? noooo...
• 2349[19:37:35] <HelloBeer> Not random crap, the official recommanded update
• 2350[19:37:47] <PaddyF> i would only flash my bios if there is a real good reason _and_ the cmos battery needs to be unpluggable
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• 2352[19:38:09] <enveezee> yes I would only flash the bios if I was sure the bios was faulty
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• 2354[19:38:29] <enveezee> after I tried everything else, like expelling daemons
• 2355[19:38:33] <cusco> the noise seems a a good reason..
• 2356[19:38:34] <enveezee> demons even
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• 2359[19:38:49] <HelloBeer> and I asked the technical service what to do and they advised me to do that
• 2360[19:38:49] * dvs should get out of the habit of flashing EFIs frequently
• 2361[19:38:53] <enveezee> noise isn't an excuse..
• 2362[19:39:13] <cusco> well.. noise is a big underrated problem in our world..
• 2363[19:39:22] <enveezee> lots of people have noise in their cars.. and breaks often cause noise.. doesnt mean you should change your breaks any time you hear noise
• 2364[19:39:24] <HelloBeer> Yep, can't stand it
• 2365[19:39:35] <enveezee> it could be your wheel bearing, or a hundred other things
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• 2368[19:40:42] <Lady_Aleena> Hello. My system still will not boot into a DE. It still stops at the plain command prompt.
• 2369[19:40:53] <cusco> HelloBeer: probably the iso they provided, is something you can burn on a cd, and boot from with a tool to upgrade the bios.. if something you don't understand other way, that seems to be safer...
• 2370[19:40:54] <PaddyF> enveezee: do you come here more often?
• 2371[19:41:09] <enveezee> PaddyF: more often than what?
• 2372[19:41:41] <PaddyF> enveezee: just wondering if you are a regular around here. you seem to know your stuff
• 2373[19:41:56] <humpled> breaks or brakes?
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• 2375[19:42:15] <dvs> PaddyF, yeah, he RANTs a lot!
• 2376[19:42:21] <enveezee> :D
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• 2378[19:42:27] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: how and what video driver did you install?
• 2379[19:42:27] <PaddyF> oh! you are RENTY??
• 2380[19:42:40] <PaddyF> haha, cool
• 2381[19:42:50] <PaddyF> ranty, ranty
• 2382[19:42:53] <dvs> LtL, Nvidia
• 2383[19:43:00] <dvs> which I have no knowledge of
• 2384[19:43:01] <Lady_Aleena> Ltl, the nvidia one.
• 2385[19:43:45] <ksk> Lady_Aleena: like you would not know by know, that there is more then one "nvidia driver"..
• 2386[19:44:02] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: probably the worst choice of three possible choices, what does dmesg say now? pastebinit
• 2387[19:44:27] <Lady_Aleena> Nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver I think.
• 2388[19:44:28] <ksk> why not give the information you gave yesterday? does not really make sense to have all the people ask you the same questions every day..
• 2389[19:44:50] <enveezee> lspci -nn, dmesg, lsmod, dpkg -l *nvidia*, xorg.0.log, etc..
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• 2392[19:45:05] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, What does this say: replaced-url
• 2393[19:45:36] <Tom-_> oh hi Lady_Aleena
• 2394[19:45:40] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: apt show Nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver - is your card listed?
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• 2396[19:46:43] <LtL> wait that probably not the correct name, 1 sec
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• 2398[19:47:03] <Lady_Aleena> replaced-url
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• 2400[19:47:45] <dvs> NVIDIA GT218
• 2401[19:47:51] <HelloBeer> @enveezee Hey. I don't understand something. On the page you sent me, they do complicated things with their .cab file. On my machine, I can open it with Software installer and it proposes me immediatly to install it. Why sould'nt I do that ?
• 2402[19:47:54] <dvs> dunno what that means but...
• 2403[19:48:31] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, i think we agreed last night that you have to remove the newer nvidia drivers, and then the older nvidia drivers should just work
• 2404[19:48:48] <Tom-_> i am unsure which packages to remove, actually
• 2405[19:49:13] <Tom-_> and also to reinstall the older nvidia drivers, just to get the dkms to work
• 2406[19:49:41] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: apt show xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-340xx - does it list your card, also if you installed nvidia blob its gonna be f'd up
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• 2408[19:50:00] <enveezee> Lady_Aleena: for i in "lspci -nn" "dmesg -T" "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log" "lsmod" "dpkg -l *nvidia*"; do $i|nc termbin.com 9999; done|tr "\n" " "
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• 2411[19:50:30] <Lady_Aleena> lspci returns nothing.
• 2412[19:50:34] <enveezee> Lady_Aleena: requires netcat installed :P
• 2413[19:50:50] <enveezee> and also has to be ran as root for some of those
• 2414[19:51:17] <enveezee> should return a single line of urls to all the relevant info here
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• 2417[19:52:32] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: /usr/bin/lspci work?
• 2418[19:53:53] <LtL> if lspci doesn't work you have bigger issues
• 2419[19:54:02] <Lady_Aleena> Apt-show returns video-nvidia-legacy-340xx not found.
• 2420[19:54:14] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: its in non-free
• 2421[19:54:40] <LtL> and its apt show blahblah
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• 2429[19:58:33] <Lady_Aleena> Enveezee, that line starting with "for i" isn't doing anything.
• 2430[19:59:03] <enveezee> Lady_Aleena: if you have netcat installed and are connected to the internet it will eventually return a line of urls
• 2431[19:59:14] <enveezee> if you're not root, dmesg and others wont work
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• 2433[19:59:38] <humpled> but why
• 2434[19:59:43] <enveezee> replaced-url
• 2435[19:59:47] <enveezee> is what it did for me
• 2436[20:00:22] <Tom-_> heh she's working from her phone
• 2437[20:00:35] <Tom-_> maybe don't make her type in long command lines
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• 2439[20:00:53] <Lady_Aleena> Ltl, /usr/bin/lspci is not a directory.
• 2440[20:01:00] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, can you run dpkg -l '*nvidia*' | nopaste ?
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• 2442[20:01:19] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: the long line won't work probably because lspci doesn't work, fix that first
• 2443[20:01:36] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, when you got Nvidia working for the first time, did you download it from the Nvidia website, or did you use the Debian non-free packages?
• 2444[20:01:46] <ska> Can you recommend a REST api testing tool that is native to Debian? Somethig like postman?
• 2445[20:01:50] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: no its not, thats the absolute path for lspci, which you claim doesn't work
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• 2448[20:02:54] <Lady_Aleena> Okay, /usr/bin/lspci at htto://paste.debian.net/1086061
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• 2453[20:03:33] <dvs> 1:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2)
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• 2455[20:04:12] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: your path must be off/wrong. /usr/bin/ should be in your $PATH
• 2456[20:04:38] <dvs> well, you now have the info
• 2457[20:04:59] <enveezee> yeah but its not the info I'd asked for :P
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• 2459[20:05:06] <greycat> has anyone filed a wishlist bug with lspci yet, saying "PLEASE MAKE -nn THE DEFAULT"
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• 2462[20:05:13] <enveezee> heh
• 2463[20:05:16] <dvs> heh
• 2464[20:05:17] <enveezee> seriously
• 2465[20:05:45] <teclo> evening, I'm looking for a mp3 tag editor that works
• 2466[20:05:47] <Lady_Aleena> Tom, dpkg -l *nvidia* returns a long list
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• 2469[20:06:03] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: did you run nvidia-config you did didn't you.
• 2470[20:06:06] <greycat> teclo: I've always used mp3info for v1 tags and id3v2 for v2 tags
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• 2473[20:06:26] <greycat> I don't know of any tag editors that handle *both* kinds of id3 tags
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• 2475[20:06:36] <enveezee> due to the size of the output of those commands thats why I'd used for loop rather than just (foo; bar; baz)|nc termbin.com 9999 cause there are limits to size on termbin
• 2476[20:06:39] <Lady_Aleena> Tom, getting nvidia to work was so long ago, I don't remember.
• 2477[20:06:48] <teclo> greycat: gonna try that thank you :)
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• 2479[20:07:17] <enveezee> why are you working from your phone to begin with?
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• 2482[20:07:37] <Lady_Aleena> Ltl, were you able to use the last paste link I posted?
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• 2484[20:07:42] <enveezee> I find it hard to imagine you coded your website in perl and you can't handle logging in on a terminal and running irssi in screen
• 2485[20:07:49] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: enveezee makes a point, install irssi or weechat
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• 2488[20:09:32] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: no, its typed wrong but dvs says your card is supported by the non-free driver. if you ran nvidia-config that will mess things up usually. looking at your paste now
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• 2490[20:09:53] <HelloBeer> enveezee, have you seen my last message ?
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• 2492[20:10:53] <Lady_Aleena> I did not run nvidia-config.
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• 2495[20:11:12] <enveezee> judging from the dmesg output, the problem is noveau is not blacklisted
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• 2497[20:11:23] <enveezee> cause I see both noveau and nvidia loading
• 2498[20:12:27] <enveezee> HelloBeer: probably, but your issue is not debian related.. its a hardware specific thing.. and I gave you links to thinkwiki which explains that stuff
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• 2504[20:14:17] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: enveezee is correct. blacklist nouveau. also strange lspci is not in your path. apt install xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-340xx should work but enable non-free
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• 2506[20:15:11] <Lady_Aleena> Ltl,that is installed.
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• 2511[20:15:25] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: lose nouveau
• 2512[20:15:29] <LtL> reboot
• 2513[20:15:34] <Greyztar> how do limit normal logon retries? I saw i could use pam module limit on services but cant seem to find what to look for normal logon limit?
• 2514[20:15:39] <enveezee> dmesg shows a driver conflict, that may be your only problem
• 2515[20:16:06] <greycat> Subject: Bug#929984: Acknowledgement (lspci: please make -nn the default)
• 2516[20:16:14] <HelloBeer> Ok, it's just that I don't know which debian tool to use (there is many) and I thought some people may know. I'll try the recommended way (in the readme file), thanks.
• 2517[20:16:23] <greycat> I don't actually expect it to *work*, but I had to try.
• 2518[20:16:29] <Lady_Aleena> Where do I blacklist nouveau?
• 2519[20:16:43] <annadane> don't worry, nvidia as a company has seen to that already
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• 2522[20:17:16] <LtL> /etc/modprobe.d/
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• 2525[20:17:24] <dvs> not helpful
• 2526[20:17:42] <greycat> !blacklist
• 2527[20:17:42] <dpkg> To blacklist a Linux kernel module, create/edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf and add a line similar to this (without quotes): "blacklist module_name". If this doesn't work, do 'echo "install modulename /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf'. IMPORTANT: ask about <blacklist-initramfs>. To blacklist a module at installation time, ask me about <installer blacklist>. replaced-url
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• 2529[20:17:48] <LtL> im busy
• 2530[20:17:51] <PaddyF> is there a package that creates the default directory structure?
• 2531[20:18:01] <Lady_Aleena> Ltl, I may have typed lspci in wrong.
• 2532[20:18:01] <greycat> PaddyF: /msg dpkg debootstrap
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• 2535[20:18:19] <PaddyF> greycat: without data in it i mean, just the directories
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• 2537[20:18:55] <greycat> PaddyF: what do you want? A literal "no"? OK, here you go: no.
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• 2539[20:19:00] <PaddyF> with the permissions. basically, i only need the permissions of the base directories
• 2540[20:19:11] <PaddyF> ah, sorry then
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• 2542[20:19:26] <Lady_Aleena> Hold on a minute, I need to reread comments above.
• 2543[20:19:47] <PaddyF> Lady_Aleena: sometimes a web forum is easier cause you have all the time you need
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• 2547[20:20:14] <ksk> PaddyF: if you messed with permissions of directories on a large scale, there is no short solution to that. (you can of coure write yourself a tool, which gets permissiosn from a clean debian install, and puts them onto your borken system...). ask dpkg about reinstall ;)
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• 2549[20:20:30] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, I agree with the people who say to blacklist nouveau and to install xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-340xx again
• 2550[20:20:42] <PaddyF> ksk: uff. hmmm
• 2551[20:20:53] <HelloBeer> Goodbye world. I'll come back if I don't have a brick
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• 2553[20:21:08] <Tom-_> if that works then it works, if it doesn't then we'd try to remove other nvidia packages
• 2554[20:23:22] <Lady_Aleena> Enveezee, what is "screen"?
• 2555[20:23:38] <greycat> we went over that yesterday, Lady_Aleena
• 2556[20:23:59] <jamesbond-4711> hi, I am running a debian "Stretch" server with an old version of nextcloud. I now want to update nextcloud to the current release. The documentation of nextcloud says, it needs at least php version 7.1. But the standard repositories of debian stretch only provide php 7.0. - I was told by the nextcloud guys that php 7.0 is "end of life" and I should install it from some repository (packages.sury.org/php/).
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• 2558[20:24:57] <dvs> ,v php
• 2559[20:24:58] <judd> Package: php on amd64 -- stretch: 1:7.0+49; buster: 2:7.3+69; sid: 2:7.3+69
• 2560[20:25:07] <dvs> wait a month
• 2561[20:25:08] <jamesbond-4711> I am really confused... - my understanding (until now) was, that debian is a well-used server distribution. So I could not imagine that it ships with a php version that is end of life?
• 2562[20:25:21] <Lady_Aleena> So much is being thrown at me I am very lost and confused.
• 2563[20:25:29] <PaddyF> web forum
• 2564[20:25:31] <PaddyF> try it
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• 2567[20:25:52] <greycat> jamesbond-4711: it's not Debian's fault that upstream PHP developers EOLed a version of PHP so quickly after it was current
• 2568[20:25:56] <ksk> jamesbond-4711: if this debian release is still supported the debian team will try to backport security fixes to that php-package.
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• 2570[20:26:07] <ksk> but also, php is not like the best software upstream, one could argue..
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• 2572[20:26:21] <Lady_Aleena> I don't have logs in this IRC chat, so I can't review what was said when.
• 2573[20:26:39] <PaddyF> its clearly a layer 8 problem
• 2574[20:26:47] <jamesbond-4711> ksk: thanks for the explanation
• 2575[20:26:49] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: sorry i was incomplete, install screen and irssi, this will all be much easier
• 2576[20:27:05] <jamesbond-4711> ksk: I don't like to mess with additional repositories
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• 2578[20:27:24] <PaddyF> haha, install IRSSI for that person?
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• 2580[20:27:36] <greycat> from replaced-url
• 2581[20:27:43] <LtL> PaddyF: um what?
• 2582[20:27:44] <jamesbond-4711> ksk: do you think it is worth a try to update to the latest nextcloud release and stay on php 7.0? is there a chance that will work?
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• 2584[20:27:46] <PaddyF> sorry, i shutup already
• 2585[20:27:57] <Lady_Aleena> dist-upgrade never works for me
• 2586[20:28:12] <ksk> jamesbond-4711: when nextcloud says it needs a version newer than the one you have, then no.
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• 2588[20:28:47] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: you'll get there, install what i mentioned and toss the phone
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• 2590[20:28:53] <PaddyF> but 1 last comment: have you male people ever wondered why you give a user with a feminine nick extra attention?
• 2591[20:29:02] <Lady_Aleena> Please give me a minute. I broke again.
• 2592[20:29:10] <greycat> PaddyF: yes, it has been discussed in the past
• 2593[20:29:25] <PaddyF> they why build a temple for a dummy?
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• 2595[20:29:42] <LtL> PaddyF: she is a regular, regulars tend to get more help.
• 2596[20:29:49] <PaddyF> haha, okay
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• 2598[20:29:58] <jamesbond-4711> ksk: so if I don't like to use some non-standard repository but I want to continue using nextcloud, then I have to switch from debian to some other linux distribution (like arch)?
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• 2600[20:30:06] <LtL> PaddyF: and that was rude.
• 2601[20:30:14] <PaddyF> of course it was. it was intended
• 2602[20:30:18] <tds> jamesbond-4711: or just wait for buster
• 2603[20:30:28] <ksk> jamesbond-4711: what tds says.
• 2604[20:30:41] <enveezee> or upgrade to buster now..
• 2605[20:30:42] <jamesbond-4711> ksk: what or who is buster?
• 2606[20:30:57] <enveezee> jamesbond-4711: the upcomming release Debian 10 is buster
• 2607[20:31:03] <ksk> !tell jamesbond-4711 about buster
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• 2609[20:31:17] <ksk> (and it is what, and who, indeed!)
• 2610[20:31:18] <LtL> jamesbond-4711: buster is the future 'stable' version 10 debian
• 2611[20:31:20] <greycat> buster looks like it has 7.3 which according to that wikipedia page will expire in December 2021. So if buster releases late this year and bullseye takes more than ~2 years, we'll run into the same issue in 2021.
• 2612[20:31:31] <jamesbond-4711> oic - sorry, I did not know :-)
• 2613[20:31:53] <jamesbond-4711> but I guess, nobody knows when exactly buster will be released, right?
• 2614[20:31:54] <Lady_Aleena> Okay, screen and irssi are installed, now what?
• 2615[20:32:00] <greycat> jamesbond-4711: right
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• 2618[20:32:26] <enveezee> jamesbond-4711: of course we know, it will be released exactly when this green line hits the bottom of this graph.. heh replaced-url
• 2619[20:32:59] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: start screen, type irssi, type /connect freenode.net
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• 2622[20:33:10] <enveezee> or just type screen irssi
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• 2624[20:33:53] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: disconnect from screen with ctrl+d return to it with screen -r
• 2625[20:33:55] <Lady_Aleena> Ltl, screen | irssi
• 2626[20:34:04] <LtL> no
• 2627[20:34:05] <greycat> No. Not a shell pipeline.
• 2628[20:34:18] <enveezee> Lady_Aleena: screen irssi
• 2629[20:34:21] <greycat> And it's not ctrl-d. It's ctrl-A, then d.
• 2630[20:34:30] <LtL> greycat: oops
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• 2632[20:34:53] <LtL> im doing too many things, apologies Lady_Aleena
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• 2634[20:34:56] <enveezee> the control char C-a must preceed all commands to screen
• 2635[20:35:14] <greycat> for the record, I don't think trying to teach Lady_Aleena how to use a brand new IRC client in the middle of this crisis is a winning move
• 2636[20:35:19] <humpled> i don't understand why they chose ctrl-a when it already has a use
• 2637[20:35:23] <dvs> agrred
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• 2639[20:35:25] <greycat> let alone teaching her irssi *and* screen
• 2640[20:35:29] <dvs> agreed to
• 2641[20:35:29] <enveezee> heh
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• 2644[20:36:00] <Lady_Aleena> "Cannot open your terminal '/dev/tty1' - please check."
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• 2646[20:36:14] <enveezee> I personally can't fathom how she managed to code a website in perl and doesn't know how to do any of this other stuff
• 2647[20:36:20] <LtL> it beats using a phone and its not rocket science, just trying to make it easier for her ostensibly
• 2648[20:37:32] <dvs> it would only be temporary until she gets X back.
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• 2651[20:38:19] * enveezee tattoos screen+irssi4life on dvs's rear end
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• 2654[20:39:08] * dvs can't see it because of all the hair
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• 2658[20:40:16] <dvs> What it sounds like she needs is: cat "blacklist nouveau" >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf
• 2659[20:40:18] <Lady_Aleena> Well, /dev/tty1 seems important to get irssi going, and it can't be opened.
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• 2663[20:41:09] <greycat> I'm terrified to guess what Lady_Aleena *did*
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• 2666[20:41:25] <dvs> greycat, did for what?
• 2667[20:41:31] <greycat> to generate that error message
• 2668[20:41:41] <greycat> maybe she tried that pipeline that was incorrectly given
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• 2670[20:42:03] <Lady_Aleena> I did NOT try the pipe.
• 2671[20:42:23] <greycat> dvs: echo, not cat
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• 2673[20:42:45] <dvs> oops. you're right
• 2674[20:43:13] <dvs> echo "blacklist nouveau" >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf
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• 2677[20:44:26] <Lady_Aleena> replaced-url
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• 2679[20:45:00] <Lady_Aleena> Picture for you re. screen irssi
• 2680[20:45:57] <SwedeMike> what happens if you start screen first, and then irssi once screen has started?
• 2681[20:46:22] <SwedeMike> I've seen those kind of errors if I "su" to another user
• 2682[20:46:23] <Lady_Aleena> Swede
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• 2684[20:46:46] <Lady_Aleena> Swedemike same thing.
• 2685[20:47:07] <SwedeMike> Lady_Aleena: screen starts normally, then irssi complains when you try to start irssi?
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• 2688[20:47:46] <Lady_Aleena> No, it complains about /dev/tty1 when I try to run screen.
• 2689[20:47:55] <SwedeMike> right, replaced-url
• 2690[20:48:06] <SwedeMike> did you su to someone else there somewhere?
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• 2692[20:48:23] <dvs> This is just sidetrack stuff
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• 2695[20:49:20] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, run: grep nouveau /etc/modprobe.d/*
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• 2698[20:50:35] <Lady_Aleena> Dvs, it returned nothing.
• 2699[20:50:40] <dvs> good
• 2700[20:50:53] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, run: echo "blacklist nouveau" >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf
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• 2703[20:51:05] <dvs> maybe as root if necessary
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• 2705[20:51:19] <greycat> you'll need to be in an actual root shell for that to work. you can't just stick sudo in front of it.
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• 2711[20:53:10] <Lady_Aleena> The echo returned nothing.
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• 2713[20:53:24] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, good, now reboot
• 2714[20:53:32] <Lady_Aleena> I logged into root as
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• 2716[20:53:52] <Lady_Aleena> Rebooting
• 2717[20:53:58] <Tom-_> do you need to update-initramf -u after you modify modprobe.d?
• 2718[20:54:22] <dvs> oh? you have a point
• 2719[20:54:32] <greycat> !blacklist-initramfs
• 2720[20:54:32] <dpkg> If your kernel uses an initramfs image (e.g. Debian stock kernel images), you need to run «update-initramfs -u» in order to refresh its copy of blacklist table. Otherwise, early bootup won't follow your blacklist requests in e.g. /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf
• 2721[20:54:38] <kidnextdoor> GUYS HOW SHOULD I GO ABOUT INSTALLING STEAM IN DEBIAN 64?
• 2722[20:54:42] <kidnextdoor> sorry caps
• 2723[20:54:54] <greycat> replaced-url
• 2724[20:54:57] <somiaj> kidnextdoor: steam is provided as a package in non-free
• 2725[20:55:14] <greycat> you have to do multiarch stuff first, though
• 2726[20:55:17] <xparanoik> .
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• 2728[20:55:18] <kidnextdoor> itried it but some stuff was missing and system refused to insttall it
• 2729[20:55:25] <Tom-_> dpkg, multiarch
• 2730[20:55:25] <dpkg> Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See replaced-url
• 2731[20:55:32] <greycat> replaced-url
• 2732[20:55:56] <kidnextdoor> but if i install from the file in steam website, does it automatic no?
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• 2738[20:58:01] <Greyztar> is there a place i could read up about how to lockout users or groups after x attempts?Have tried different versions with pam modules but doesnt seem to work is there an debian guide or so maybe?
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• 2740[20:58:23] <somiaj> kidnextdoor: use the package in debian to ensure you get all the depends that are needed (the package then downloads the actual steam binary from valuve)
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• 2742[21:00:40] <Lady_Aleena> Do I need to do the Eco again and then do the update?
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• 2746[21:01:17] <Lady_Aleena> s/Eco/echo/;
• 2747[21:01:36] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, run: grep nouveau /etc/modprobe.d/*
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• 2750[21:02:50] <StyXman> is it OK if freetype-dev contains /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfreetype.so ?
• 2751[21:03:01] <Lady_Aleena> It is there in local.conf
• 2752[21:03:18] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, what is the output exactly?
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• 2754[21:04:26] <Lady_Aleena> replaced-url
• 2755[21:04:28] <StyXman> also replaced-url
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• 2757[21:04:57] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, it's "blacklist", not "black-list"
• 2758[21:05:08] <greycat> ...
• 2759[21:05:27] <Lady_Aleena> I saw a hyphen.
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• 2761[21:05:47] <dvs> there was no hyphen
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• 2765[21:06:23] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, edit /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf and remove the hyphen
• 2766[21:06:31] <Lady_Aleena> This IRC client inserted one.
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• 2769[21:06:42] <Greyztar> must also update initramfs again no?
• 2770[21:06:43] <greycat> open the file with a regular text editor (nano or vim), remove the hyphen, save/exit, and run update-initramfs -u
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• 2772[21:06:58] <dvs> Greyztar, eventually
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• 2781[21:10:47] <Lady_Aleena> Running update
• 2782[21:10:55] <dvs> update what?
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• 2784[21:11:22] <Lady_Aleena> Update-initramfs done
• 2785[21:11:31] <dvs> good, now reboot
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• 2787[21:11:43] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: shutdown -r now
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• 2789[21:12:11] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: just like that verbatim
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• 2796[21:13:36] <greycat> I think she has successfully rebooted before, so she probably doesn't need *that* part spelled out.
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• 2798[21:14:17] <LtL> greycat: im beginning to wonder just what she knows
• 2799[21:14:18] <Lady_Aleena> Sorry LtL, I typed reboot and hit enter before your message about shutdown.
• 2800[21:14:21] <ksk> ./j #debian-lady
• 2801[21:14:25] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: np
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• 2803[21:14:38] <greycat> "reboot" is also ok
• 2804[21:14:45] <Lady_Aleena> LtL, doing it your way now.
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• 2806[21:16:08] <dvs> doesn't matter
• 2807[21:16:35] <LtL> my old habits die hard.
• 2808[21:17:08] <greycat> I usually exit from my login shell, and then hit ctrl-alt-delete. No residual unsaved shell history that way.
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• 2818[21:22:32] <mia> Hello there
• 2819[21:22:37] <dvs> zzzzzzz
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• 2824[21:23:00] <Guest80975> I have multiple linux installation on the same device, which one controlls the grub menu? how can I find it out?
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• 2826[21:23:21] <Mia_temp> ok this nick is much better
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• 2829[21:23:34] * dvs prefers Mia_Farrow
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• 2832[21:24:04] <dvs> ha!
• 2833[21:24:06] <Mia_Farrow> dvs,
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• 2835[21:24:07] <Mia_Farrow> :)
• 2836[21:24:30] <Mia_Farrow> So I was using ubuntu, now I've installed deepin to chck it out, and my grub menu styling completely changed
• 2837[21:24:41] <Lady_Aleena> LtL, I don't know much.
• 2838[21:24:45] <Mia_Farrow> so if I switch back to ubuntu and do update-grub what will happen?
• 2839[21:24:49] <Mia_Farrow> I'm wondering
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• 2841[21:25:14] <greycat> we don't support deepin or ubuntu
• 2842[21:25:41] <Mia_Farrow> greycat, this is more of a general linux question
• 2843[21:25:55] <greycat> so ask ##linux
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• 2845[21:25:56] <Mia_Farrow> since they're both ubuntu / debian based I wanted to ask here ---
• 2846[21:26:02] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: i didn't mean to insult you, it's difficult to help when we don't know a users' level.
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• 2849[21:26:35] <Lady_Aleena> LtL, dumb blonde level
• 2850[21:26:40] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: so, do you have X
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• 2858[21:27:06] <Lady_Aleena> No X yet. dmesg paste again?
• 2859[21:27:27] <dvs> yes
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• 2862[21:27:39] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: It couldn't hurt, sooner the shorter
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• 2866[21:28:18] <Lady_Aleena> It is dmesg right?
• 2867[21:28:24] <LtL> right
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• 2871[21:29:27] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: I still think a re-install would have been quicker.
• 2872[21:29:38] <Lady_Aleena> replaced-url
• 2873[21:30:13] <greycat> ,file mt7601u.bin
• 2874[21:30:17] <judd> Search for mt7601u.bin in stretch/amd64: firmware-misc-nonfree: lib/firmware/mt7601u.bin
• 2875[21:30:39] <dvs> [ 11.678075] [drm] Initialized nvidia-drm 0.0.0 20150116 for 0000:01:00.0 on minor 0
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• 2877[21:32:02] <dvs> I guess mt7601u.bin is needed?
• 2878[21:32:37] <Lady_Aleena> I wish I knew what that was.
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• 2880[21:33:03] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, sudo apt-get install firmware-misc-nonfree
• 2881[21:33:04] <greycat> google says it's a wifi thing
• 2882[21:33:09] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: [ 11.653635] nvidia: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel. /* driver issue */
• 2883[21:33:11] <dvs> oh, nvm
• 2884[21:33:34] <dvs> LtL, but the module is initialized
• 2885[21:33:41] <dvs> [ 11.678075] [drm] Initialized nvidia-drm 0.0.0 20150116 for 0000:01:00.0 on minor 0
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• 2887[21:34:05] <LtL> dvs: nod, i don't know what i would try next
• 2888[21:34:22] <dvs> me neither, I don't use nvidia
• 2889[21:34:30] <dvs> for this very reason
• 2890[21:34:32] <LtL> i've seen that before without serious problem
• 2891[21:34:41] <Lady_Aleena> Do I still install firmware-misc-nonfree?
• 2892[21:34:50] <greycat> it would probably be a good idea
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• 2895[21:35:48] <Lady_Aleena> Then reboot?
• 2896[21:36:02] <greycat> it's not going to affect your nvidia stuff
• 2897[21:36:04] <dvs> Actually, pasting /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be the next step
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• 2902[21:37:24] <Lady_Aleena> replaced-url
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• 2905[21:38:37] <greycat> did you not (re)install the NVIDIA 340.xx Legacy driver yet?
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• 2907[21:39:01] <dvs> apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-340xx
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• 2909[21:39:32] <greycat> replaced-url
• 2910[21:39:40] <greycat> but start with what dvs said
• 2911[21:40:26] <ziGuy> Hello guys. xorg is not working. can't remember what was my previous settings but i remove all nouveau packages and installed xserver-xorg-video-radeon
• 2912[21:40:39] <ziGuy> don't know if the problem is with the driver or xord
• 2913[21:40:42] <ziGuy> xorg
• 2914[21:40:47] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-340xx
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• 2916[21:41:00] <Lady_Aleena> Doing it now
• 2917[21:41:10] <Lady_Aleena> Done
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• 2919[21:41:25] <dvs> ziGuy, methinks that's wrong: ;-)
• 2920[21:41:30] <dvs> let's repeat
• 2921[21:41:39] <dvs> ziGuy, apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-340xx
• 2922[21:41:58] <ziGuy> but i don't have an nvidia card
• 2923[21:42:16] <ziGuy> but a radeon
• 2924[21:42:26] <dvs> ziGuy, a radeon what?
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• 2926[21:42:57] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, try rebooting now
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• 2928[21:43:19] <Lady_Aleena> Yep
• 2929[21:43:21] <ziGuy> what exact model u mean?
• 2930[21:43:25] <dvs> yes
• 2931[21:43:27] <greycat> ziGuy: lspci -nn
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• 2933[21:43:33] <dvs> even better
• 2934[21:43:56] <ziGuy> -vnn gives: HD 5400/6300/7300
• 2935[21:44:07] <dvs> old stuff
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• 2937[21:45:03] <ziGuy> correction, it was the audio. HD 5000/6000/7350/8350
• 2938[21:45:20] <ziGuy> yeah... old one but works fantastic
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• 2941[21:45:56] <ziGuy> used to do some 3d works once but now i just need my simple 2d GUI :)
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• 2943[21:46:00] <dvs> ziGuy, do you have the firmware-amd-graphics package install
• 2944[21:46:12] <ziGuy> let me check
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• 2949[21:47:19] <ziGuy> yes but it ofers me to update it, should i go for it?
• 2950[21:47:23] <ziGuy> nothing to loose i think
• 2951[21:47:31] <saskwach> I'm trying to configure some network interfaces with /etc/network/interfaces, and they're not getting IPv6 link-local addresses. I suspect the problem is related to my use of the "no-scripts" directive, but I can't figure out which script is responsible. Anyone know what I could be doing wrong?
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• 2954[21:48:03] <dvs> ziGuy, do it
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• 2960[21:49:03] <Lady_Aleena> screen images.
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• 2963[21:49:28] <ziGuy> reboot after done?
• 2964[21:49:48] <greycat> wouldn't hurt to try
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• 2968[21:50:52] <ziGuy> i've got some errors like [ 1297.486470 ] ata5.01: status: {DRD ERR }
• 2969[21:51:00] <majuscul2> I am debugging a tls problem with a self-signed cert which I am installing on a machine at /usr/share/ca-certificates/foo/ca-bundle.crt & then update-ca-certificates. How can I confirm that update-ca-certificates is at least seeing my certs and making them available to the system? I know something is wrong because curl replaced-url
• 2970[21:51:29] <dvs> ziGuy, well, it won't be that one if it didn't work.
• 2971[21:51:47] <dvs> oh wait, isn't that a disk error?
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• 2973[21:52:04] <greycat> "ata" implies a disk
• 2974[21:52:17] <ziGuy> no don't say this
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• 2977[21:52:29] <dvs> it's dying, my friend
• 2978[21:52:51] <ziGuy> but wait, it must not be the issue with the display
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• 2982[21:54:33] <ziGuy> yeah, got some i/o errors here but i want my display and later i'll check and solve the disk issue
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• 2985[21:55:26] <ziGuy> after reboot i've got multiple Started Session ### of user ziguy. i've got 260 like those but don't have GUI
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• 2991[21:58:52] <Lady_Aleena> Okay, I'm now using irssi on my computer. At least I got that going.
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• 2999[22:01:16] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: With greycat's approval I would run this AFTER renaming /etc/X11/xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak Since it recognizes your GPU it should work, \n
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• 3001[22:01:24] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: Xorg -configure; cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
• 3002[22:01:53] <greycat> I don't know nvidia stuff.
• 3003[22:02:01] <dvs> me neither
• 3004[22:02:02] <Lady_Aleena> Ltl, hold on a moment, I am looking at how to navigate irssi.
• 3005[22:02:19] <greycat> if the instructions on the wiki didn't work, and dvs's suggestion didn't work, then I have no idea what to do other than google whatever errors you get
• 3006[22:02:22] <LtL> i haven't used it since it used the 'nv' driver myself
• 3007[22:02:39] <Lady_Aleena> I don't know how to get around irssi and back to the command prompt to run things.
• 3008[22:03:07] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: ctrl+a-d from screen or you habve to quit.
• 3009[22:03:11] <greycat> if you're working on the console, you probably just want to use Ctrl-Alt-F2 Ctrl-Alt-F3 and so on for separate task sessions
• 3010[22:03:41] <greycat> you get 6 of those by default
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• 3012[22:03:53] <LtL> occam's razorr bites me yet again
• 3013[22:04:05] <humpled> but then you can't copy and paste to here, and using irssi becomes pointless :þ
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• 3015[22:04:24] <greycat> she could turn on logging for later review
• 3016[22:04:40] <ziGuy> i don't see the radeon driver loaded in lsmod, i don't have it in modprob.d. any suggestions?
• 3017[22:04:41] <Lady_Aleena> That's the problem, I can't copy and paste since I'm not in KDE since X doesn't like me anymore.
• 3018[22:04:42] <humpled> point
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• 3022[22:04:57] <humpled> screen can copy and paste ;)
• 3023[22:05:41] <greycat> probably too much of a learning curve for that right now
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• 3028[22:07:03] <Lady_Aleena> And my phone battery is running low, so I will lose the web soon.
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• 3040[22:10:42] <ziGuy> greycat, do u have an ieda how to make my radeon driver loaded? u mentioned u r not into nvidia stuff so it's not nvidia:)
• 3041[22:11:30] <greycat> ziGuy: get your ACTUAL device ID from lspci -nn (it's an 8 digit hex string in square brackets) and google it. With key words like "debian" or "linux".
• 3042[22:11:45] <greycat> that's why I asked for lspci -nn before
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• 3044[22:12:02] <Lady_Aleena> It is getting to the point where I think that I need to fresh install of stretch, because issues are piling up.
• 3045[22:12:02] <greycat> ,bug 929984
• 3046[22:12:03] <judd> Sorry, the requested bug was not found.
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• 3052[22:13:38] <ziGuy> ok, searching. thanks
• 3053[22:13:51] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, you probably still run into these issue from a fresh install because it looks like you're dealing with a video card problem..
• 3054[22:14:11] <dvs> and Nvidia drivers aren't installed by default.
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• 3057[22:16:18] * Tenkawa notes its a lot harder to p2v windows to a linux box nowadays4
• 3058[22:16:56] * humpled waits for a translation
• 3059[22:17:17] * Tenkawa is having a bear of a time getting vmware to ignore most of his host hardware
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• 3061[22:17:34] <Tenkawa> it use to be a lot easier
• 3062[22:17:46] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: can you pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? have you tried 'nvidia-xconfig'
• 3063[22:17:54] <Tenkawa> and I really really hate gpt
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• 3065[22:18:19] <EdePopede> really? better than the old system with 4 partition entries
• 3066[22:18:22] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: i don't recommend xconfig btw
• 3067[22:18:30] <dvs> I like the idea found here better: replaced-url
• 3068[22:18:31] <Lady_Aleena> LtL, hold please.
• 3069[22:18:39] <Tenkawa> EdePopede: true... it was limited
• 3070[22:19:11] <melpy> throw nvidia in trash and wait for new amd gpu ;)
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• 3072[22:19:34] <Lady_Aleena> replaced-url
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• 3074[22:19:43] <Tenkawa> melpy: I like my 6 gb gpu thank you very muvh
• 3075[22:19:47] <Tenkawa> er much
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• 3077[22:19:56] <Tenkawa> it runs great
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• 3080[22:21:15] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: sooo you did run xconfig, or a package did, it looks okay to me.
• 3081[22:21:26] <melpy> amd better open source drivers
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• 3083[22:21:50] <Lady_Aleena> LtL, I don't remember manually running it.
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• 3087[22:22:24] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: rename it and run Xorg -configure; cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
• 3088[22:22:45] <LtL> last shot
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• 3090[22:23:21] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: be root by the way.
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• 3094[22:24:47] <Lady_Aleena> LtL, I'll give that a try.
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• 3096[22:25:07] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: type it perfectly, notice the semi-colon
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• 3103[22:26:55] <Lady_Aleena> Error: Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices.
• 3104[22:27:08] <Lady_Aleena> Configuration failed.
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• 3106[22:27:41] <ziGuy> OK, i had nomodeset in GRUB. now it's better but still don't the X run correctly although the driver is loaded
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• 3108[22:28:05] <ziGuy> got a message that something went wrong and a button to log out. Will look into it in a sec
• 3109[22:28:05] <dvs> ziGuy, type "startx"
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• 3112[22:28:38] <ziGuy> after logging out it's just reappearing
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• 3114[22:31:07] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: the nvidia-xconfig is known to cause problems
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• 3116[22:31:52] <dvs> That's why I like the Manual config found here: replaced-url
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• 3118[22:33:29] <LtL> dvs: i'm agreeing with you, trouble is possible remnants of nvidia's script somewhere
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• 3122[22:34:28] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: try dvs's url
• 3123[22:34:42] <Lady_Aleena> LtL: reading it now.
• 3124[22:35:16] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, type those two commands, mkdir and echo, EXACTLY as it says as root.
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• 3126[22:36:21] <Lady_Aleena> Please give me a minute.
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• 3132[22:37:53] <Lady_Aleena> Quick question, from the command prompt, how to I make long commands scroll to the next line instead of wrapping on the same line?
• 3133[22:38:33] <greycat> by having the terminal set correctly and by using bash and not ksh
• 3134[22:38:53] <greycat> if you did something to make bash to horizontal-scrolling, it's usually something like fucking up the $TERM variable
• 3135[22:38:54] <ziGuy> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-
• 3136[22:38:58] <Lady_Aleena> How do I know what I am using? And how do I switch?
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• 3139[22:39:57] <greycat> more like what did you *do* to make it act this way
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• 3141[22:40:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1516
• 3142[22:40:04] <ziGuy> should recreate Xorg.conf, right? what the wizard is not showing? it just do nothing
• 3143[22:40:08] <greycat> if you simply log in and type commands, it shouldn't do this
• 3144[22:40:27] <saskwach> Lady_Aleena: `echo $SHELL` will tell you what you're using.
• 3145[22:40:38] <ziGuy> echo $? give 0
• 3146[22:40:42] <dvs> ziGuy, you have a Xorg.conf? Not necessary for a Radeon card.
• 3147[22:40:48] <Lady_Aleena> I'm using bash.
• 3148[22:40:58] <greycat> $SHELL doesn't actually say what shell you're in, but ... meh. Whatever.
• 3149[22:41:04] <greycat> how did you break your TERM variable
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• 3151[22:41:18] <Lady_Aleena> And echo $TERM returned linux.
• 3152[22:41:28] * dvs types shell and goes down a rabbit hole
• 3153[22:41:30] <ziGuy> echo $0 will give u the shell, more precisely
• 3154[22:41:38] <saskwach> How about "help | head -n 1"
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• 3156[22:41:47] <greycat> ziGuy: the only solid answer I've found is ps -p $$
• 3157[22:42:04] <ziGuy> the same i think
• 3158[22:42:05] <greycat> ps -p $$ works in sh or csh family shells, on BSD or SysV flavors of ps
• 3159[22:42:27] <ziGuy> just don't count on an env variable
• 3160[22:42:42] <greycat> $0 can be a lie. $SHELL is a request for future shells, not an indication of current shell.
• 3161[22:42:50] <ziGuy> it's like deciding which user is loged in by $USER
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• 3165[22:43:49] <Lady_Aleena> Found it. Thank you.
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• 3168[22:44:40] <saskwach> Does anyone know what causes link-local IPv6 addresses to be assigned to interfaces using ifupdown?
• 3169[22:45:13] <ksk> saskwach: what are you trying to do?
• 3170[22:45:22] <Dagger> link-locals are automatic. so long as the link is running, v6 is enabled on that interface and the MTU is >=1280 the kernel will add them automatically
• 3171[22:45:35] <Dagger> things like dhcpcd or network-manager may interfere, mind
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• 3178[22:47:45] <saskwach> I'm trying to bring up an interface, but it's not getting a link-local address assigned automatically.
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• 3180[22:48:05] <Lady_Aleena> I am going to reboot again. I hope to be back soon.
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• 3183[22:48:31] <saskwach> I used "no-scripts" on it, so I wouldn't expect things to interfere with it.
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• 3188[22:49:39] <victorqueiroz> Damn, I'm so sick of Debian freezing on my Ryzen. This is just ridiculous. I just got a .git folder corrupted
• 3189[22:50:02] <saskwach> /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/mesh0/mtu says 1500, and /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/mesh0/disable_ipv6 is 0
• 3190[22:50:14] <saskwach> and yet, mesh0 doesn't have a link-local IPv6 address.
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• 3197[22:52:13] <Lady_Aleena> Well, I'm still not in KDE after following the directions on the page that I was pointed to. I am sorry that I have taken so much of your time. I don't know what to try next.
• 3198[22:52:41] <greycat> Fundamentals. What happens when you try to start X? What does it say in the Xorg.0.log file?
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• 3200[22:52:55] <Lady_Aleena> Do I just type X or something else?
• 3201[22:52:57] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, what is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf ?
• 3202[22:53:09] <saskwach> startx
• 3203[22:53:19] * Lady_Aleena has to write things down, hold on.
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• 3205[22:53:41] <saskwach> Hey, whatever I did last worked!
• 3206[22:54:29] <saskwach> Huh, just adding "iface mesh0 inet6 manual"
• 3207[22:54:32] <saskwach> weird
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• 3209[22:54:39] <victorqueiroz> Can anyone help me with this? Sometimes when I go back to my computer after sometime without moving it I get freeze and can't do anything else. I'm honestly sick of this. Can this be caused by HDD?
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• 3212[22:57:29] <Lady_Aleena> ACK! /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf is a mess.
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• 3214[22:57:45] <Lady_Aleena> I forgot the -e when echoing.
• 3215[22:58:12] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, it should look like what is on the config page: replaced-url
• 3216[22:59:42] <Lady_Aleena> dvs, well, I screwed up.
• 3217[22:59:58] <Lady_Aleena> brb, I hope
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• 3225[23:02:26] <downtrip> Hi, quick question - my sources.list now points to testing but the command 'lsb-release -a' says buster (as does /etc/os-release). The original install was stable. Will the lsb-release rollover to 'testing' when buster is released or take the name of next-stable?
• 3226[23:02:48] <greycat> buster *is* testing right now
• 3227[23:03:54] <downtrip> greycat: So the lsb-release indo for testing just takes the name of the next release?
• 3228[23:04:17] <downtrip> s/indo/info
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• 3230[23:04:32] <petn-randall> downtrip: If you keep testing in your sources.list you'll start surprise upgrading once buster releases. So we generally recommend using release names in the sources list.
• 3231[23:05:04] <greycat> unless you actually *want* to continue the roller-coaster ride of perpetual testing for some reason
• 3232[23:05:12] <greycat> most people do not
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• 3234[23:05:50] <saskwach> That's what Sid is for!
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• 3237[23:07:13] <Lady_Aleena> Well, that didn't work either. Also, when I tried "startx" I got a list of errors, and it somehow disabled my ability to use screen.
• 3238[23:07:52] <Tenkawa> got an example?
• 3239[23:08:17] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, what's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf
• 3240[23:08:42] <downtrip> saskwach: I am ok with roller coaster, I use Arch too. Would Sid be better than testing. Reading the wiki it seems security is better. I can deal with breakage, I'm trying Debian on a spare box
• 3241[23:08:56] <Lady_Aleena> paste.debian.net/1086165
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• 3243[23:09:43] <saskwach> downtrip: I run Sid on my development desktop, and have for over 10 years. It breaks rarely.
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• 3245[23:10:32] <Tenkawa> well thats a short conf file
• 3246[23:10:47] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, There is no "EndSection" in the file
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• 3248[23:11:45] <downtrip> saskwach: I'll give it a go
• 3249[23:11:56] <saskwach> Nope, link local addresses have mysteriously disappeared again. That's what I get for trying to save the configuration in my image generator.
• 3250[23:11:57] <dvs> oops! I take that back. sorry
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• 3253[23:12:07] <Lady_Aleena> Line 4
• 3254[23:12:48] <Tenkawa> but that file looks way short if thats "all" you are defining
• 3255[23:12:53] <Tenkawa> theres no screens
• 3256[23:12:59] <Tenkawa> etc etc
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• 3258[23:13:09] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, it was just indented too. Just unindent it for clarity's sake.
• 3259[23:13:17] <Tenkawa> only the card itself
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• 3263[23:13:35] <Tenkawa> actually
• 3264[23:13:42] <Tenkawa> not evem the card
• 3265[23:13:48] <Tenkawa> just the driver
• 3266[23:14:01] <Tenkawa> otherwise it would have a bus address
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• 3268[23:14:13] <Primer> All of that is unnecessary in modern X
• 3269[23:14:15] <Tenkawa> and location for a card
• 3270[23:14:49] <Primer> The easiest thing to do is to start with no xorg.conf or any files in xorg.d
• 3271[23:14:58] <LtL> Primer: i agree
• 3272[23:15:03] <Tenkawa> Primer: right if it "auto" found... thats what she's having problems with
• 3273[23:15:17] <Primer> I can help with that
• 3274[23:15:18] <Lady_Aleena> Indent removed.
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• 3277[23:15:58] <Lady_Aleena> rebooting again
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• 3279[23:16:08] <Primer> I see you're using startx. That's good. When you do so...
• 3280[23:16:15] <Primer> yeah, really should not IRC from the same machine :)
• 3281[23:16:39] <Tenkawa> I wonder if she has one of those built in video cards thats conflicting
• 3282[23:16:53] <Primer> So how far has this gotten? Confirmed that the kernel driver is in, matches the libs, etc.?
• 3283[23:17:04] <Primer> And there's no prime involved
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• 3285[23:17:12] <humpled> hmm
• 3286[23:17:14] <kidnextdoor> guys
• 3287[23:17:20] <kidnextdoor> steam:i386 : Depends: libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 but it is not going to be installed
• 3288[23:17:24] <Tenkawa> yeah i assume nouveau is out of the picture right?
• 3289[23:17:26] <kidnextdoor> cant go around this help please
• 3290[23:17:59] <Primer> I have a 5 display nvidia proprietary + intel up here on Debian. I'm sure I can figure this out :)
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• 3292[23:18:19] <dvs> Primer, be our guest
• 3293[23:18:38] <Primer> So, let's start fresh, shall we? I've been following, but hesitated until now (bored)
• 3294[23:18:47] <Tenkawa> Primer: same here.. works great.. but I do things a lot more manually
• 3295[23:18:57] <Primer> I see you need to use 340, because of the card. Is this a laptop?
• 3296[23:19:13] <Lady_Aleena> No, it is a desktop with old hardware.
• 3297[23:19:28] <Primer> Ok, so this is the only video card, and you're booted to console, yes?
• 3298[23:19:38] <Lady_Aleena> Yes to both
• 3299[23:19:42] <Primer> lsmod | grep nouveau <-- reports nothing, correct?
• 3300[23:19:54] <Primer> as reoot, of course (not going to prefix sudo to everything)
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• 3302[23:20:08] * dvs logs in as "reoot"
• 3303[23:20:13] <Primer> Going to presume a certain level of expertise
• 3304[23:20:21] <Primer> hehe not sure how that happened :)
• 3305[23:20:21] <dvs> Primer, don't
• 3306[23:20:26] <Primer> stuck key
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• 3308[23:20:36] <Primer> ok, thanks for that
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• 3310[23:20:38] <Primer> SOOO
• 3311[23:20:43] <Primer> sudo lsmod | grep nouveau
• 3312[23:20:49] <Primer> that should report nothing
• 3313[23:20:51] <at0m> no need for root to lsmod
• 3314[23:20:54] <Lady_Aleena> lsmod returned nothing when I grepped nouveau
• 3315[23:21:00] <dvs> Primer, I bet it should
• 3316[23:21:05] <saskwach> Well this is no good, now I'm getting inconsistent results.
• 3317[23:21:07] <Primer> at0m: is it not in /sbin? Should be...
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• 3319[23:21:19] <Lady_Aleena> Primer, think dumb blonde level of expertise
• 3320[23:21:24] <petn-randall> kidnextdoor: On which OS release? How are you installing steam?
• 3321[23:21:29] <Primer> ok, sudo dmesg | grep -i nvidia, look for the kernel module lines
• 3322[23:21:33] <at0m> whereis lsmod
• 3323[23:21:33] <at0m> lsmod: /bin/lsmod /sbin/lsmod
• 3324[23:21:40] <Primer> You know what to look for here, I take it?
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• 3326[23:21:52] <Primer> Something like 340 loaded, etc.
• 3327[23:21:54] <kidnextdoor> im in debian 9.9, im installing it as i was suggested in this channel by the repository
• 3328[23:22:00] <saskwach> Things in /sbin don't necessarily require root to run. "/sbin/ifconfig -a", for example
• 3329[23:22:06] <kidnextdoor> replaced-url
• 3330[23:22:16] <Primer> saskwach: yes, but /sbin should not be in a user's path
• 3331[23:22:24] <at0m> saskwach: sure, but then /sbin by default isn't in user's $PATH
• 3332[23:22:28] <saskwach> Well, not by default.
• 3333[23:22:29] <saskwach> Yeah.
• 3334[23:22:30] <Primer> and if you sudo correctly, it'll be in that path
• 3335[23:22:30] <at0m> so needs full path
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• 3337[23:23:02] <Lady_Aleena> Primer: replaced-url
• 3338[23:23:02] <Primer> Lady_Aleena: so, dmesg | grep -i nvidia, pastebin that, please
• 3339[23:23:32] <Lady_Aleena> Primer: replaced-url
• 3340[23:23:40] <Primer> Excellent so far. So you've removed /etc/X11/xorg.conf and all files from /etc/X11/xorg.d/, yes?
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• 3342[23:23:57] <Primer> also rm /var/log/Xorg.0.log
• 3343[23:24:21] <Primer> And it seems this is the only machine at your disposal, so you're not sshing into it to do stuff, right?
• 3344[23:24:24] <Lady_Aleena> Primer: I am writhing things down to check things. One at a time please?
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• 3346[23:24:57] <Primer> hehe you've never been on a really busy channel, have you? :)
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• 3348[23:25:33] <Primer> Anyhow, the next step is to startx, but this has the potential to leave your keyboard in "raw" mode
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• 3350[23:25:41] <Primer> Meaning, you have to hit the button if you can't ssh into the box
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• 3353[23:26:25] <Primer> So, I presume you are logged in as your user in the console of this machine, no X is up, your DM probably failed a bunch of times
• 3354[23:26:30] <Primer> if so, startx
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• 3356[23:26:39] <ziGuy> Guys, help will be appreciated. Can't get rig of "Oh no! Something has gone wrong." and "A problem has occurred and the system can't recover"
• 3357[23:26:44] <Lady_Aleena> I have xorg.conf, xorg.conf-nvidia-config-original, and xorg.cong for good measure.
• 3358[23:27:06] <Primer> make sure all those files I listed are NOT present in those locations
• 3359[23:27:10] <Primer> trust me
• 3360[23:27:12] <ziGuy> i've recreated xorg.conf by X - config
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• 3362[23:27:24] <magic_ninja_work> Lady_Aleena, are you still tryin to fix your system?
• 3363[23:27:32] <dvs> magic_ninja_work, yup
• 3364[23:27:44] <Primer> Anyone with X issues: Your best starting point is NO files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /etc/X11/xorg.d/
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• 3366[23:28:03] <Primer> Nvidia or not
• 3367[23:28:11] <magic_ninja_work> Poor girl. How long has it been installed? Just wondering if a reinstall may be faster.
• 3368[23:28:11] <Lady_Aleena> I don't have an xorg.d dir, but I do have an xorg.conf.d dir.
• 3369[23:28:19] <Primer> X can usually figure this out, and when it can't, there are other ways
• 3370[23:28:20] <greycat> Primer meant xorg.conf.d
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• 3373[23:28:32] <Primer> Lady_Aleena: that's what I meant. Ensure that directory is empty.
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• 3376[23:29:07] <Primer> I've owned #nvidia here on freenode for almost 20 years. I know this stuff. You're getting premium support here.
• 3377[23:29:11] <Lady_Aleena> So delete my newly creted 20-nvidia.conf?
• 3378[23:29:15] <Primer> yes
• 3379[23:29:21] <Primer> or back it up, whatever
• 3380[23:29:23] <saskwach> A clue! "IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): mesh0: link is not ready"
• 3381[23:29:25] <Lady_Aleena> Hold please.
• 3382[23:29:25] * dvs cries
• 3383[23:29:42] <Primer> dvs: sorry, am I undoing what you had her do?
• 3384[23:29:50] <Primer> I did presume your gender, yes
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• 3386[23:30:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1509
• 3387[23:30:02] <Lady_Aleena> Primer: 20-nvidia.conf is gone now.
• 3388[23:30:05] <Primer> startx
• 3389[23:30:08] <LtL> Primer: we're happy to have help on this, thanks
• 3390[23:30:15] <Lady_Aleena> Do I delete all the other xorg.conf files?
• 3391[23:30:18] <Primer> LtL: my pleasure
• 3392[23:30:22] <dvs> Primer, Yeah, we just created 20-nvidia.conf. If it must be deleted, delete it.
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• 3394[23:30:24] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: and xorg.conf ? gone
• 3395[23:30:27] <Primer> only /etc/X11/xorg.conf
• 3396[23:30:32] <Primer> and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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• 3398[23:30:36] <Primer> to make sure
• 3399[23:30:41] <Primer> and run sync too
• 3400[23:30:42] <Primer> hehe
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• 3402[23:30:47] <Primer> in case you have to hit the button
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• 3406[23:31:08] <ziGuy> Xorg log: replaced-url
• 3407[23:31:09] <Lady_Aleena> Going to delete those files.
• 3408[23:31:24] <Primer> If you're not doing this in a terminal, you're not doing it correctly :)
• 3409[23:31:59] <Primer> My 2¢
• 3410[23:32:10] <Lady_Aleena> The files are deleted.
• 3411[23:32:16] * magic_ninja_work admires the dedication
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• 3413[23:32:27] <Primer> I presume you read my disclaimer regarding startx
• 3414[23:32:43] <Lady_Aleena> Primer: I have no choice but to do it on the command line, I can't get into KDE right now.
• 3415[23:32:46] <Primer> And I believe this is what you have been using to test X, yes?
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• 3417[23:33:04] <dvs> Primer, sddm is installed
• 3418[23:33:09] <dvs> I hope
• 3419[23:33:37] <Lady_Aleena> Primer: you said something about sync, is that "sudo sync", are there other things I need to add to that command?
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• 3421[23:33:48] <Primer> dvs: I personally had to use lightdm in my day old debootstrap on zfs root running those aforementioned 5 displays with nvidia proprietary + intel
• 3422[23:33:56] <Primer> Lady_Aleena: correct
• 3423[23:34:15] <Primer> that will ensure your fs changes are committed to disk, in case the machine hard locks
• 3424[23:34:23] <Lady_Aleena> sudo sync has been run.
• 3425[23:34:26] <Primer> when starting X, which is what I hope to have you do soon
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• 3427[23:34:41] <Primer> ok, so again, startx _may_ hose your keyboard
• 3428[23:34:48] <Primer> You've probably seen this
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• 3431[23:35:04] <Primer> And confirm you also deleted /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
• 3432[23:35:09] <Lady_Aleena> Not yet, however, startx does mess with screen.
• 3433[23:35:18] <Primer> ok, first, don't be in screen
• 3434[23:35:21] <Lady_Aleena> Yes, I deleted that log file.
• 3435[23:35:24] <Primer> I use screen all the time too
• 3436[23:35:34] <majuscul2> So I've been able to get my certs imported via update-ca-certificates.... but only by overwriting some existing mozilla cert. wtf do i need to do to get update-ca-certificates to see my file? same permissions, same dir structure, same format, same extension
• 3437[23:35:39] <Lady_Aleena> I was told to use screen to use irssi.
• 3438[23:35:47] <Primer> yes
• 3439[23:35:48] <Primer> that's fine
• 3440[23:35:51] <Primer> let's use alt-f3
• 3441[23:35:53] <Primer> but
• 3442[23:35:57] <Primer> Don't do anything yet
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• 3446[23:36:10] <dvs> NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo........
• 3447[23:36:16] <magic_ninja_work> heh
• 3448[23:36:19] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: thats different exit screen completely
• 3449[23:36:49] <Primer> yeah, I need to stop hitting enter. Ok, so, here's what you do: continue to use screen and irssi, but we're going to learn the alt-fX trick. Do you know the alt-fX trick?
• 3450[23:36:50] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: quit itrssi, type exit to exit screen
• 3451[23:36:52] <Lady_Aleena> AFK for a moment.
• 3452[23:37:00] <Tenkawa> did anyone ever have her run nvidia-xconfig out of curiosity while she is restarting. my /etc/X11/xorg.conf is fully populated and that other file doesnt exist
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• 3454[23:37:14] <Tenkawa> restarting/away
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• 3456[23:37:20] <Primer> Nononon not yet, don't do that. First, you're probably currently in alt-f1
• 3457[23:37:33] <Tenkawa> i was just asking
• 3458[23:37:37] <Primer> If you do alt-f2, you should see a new login prompt
• 3459[23:37:44] <Primer> To get back, do alt-f1
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• 3461[23:38:01] <Primer> Report back once you've learned this or that you know this already
• 3462[23:38:01] <Tenkawa> I had that buffered for last 20 min.. she is afk
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• 3464[23:39:45] <Primer> Tenkawa: one thing at a time. A good starting point is to just start without an xorg.conf and look at the log
• 3465[23:39:54] <Primer> I want to look for things like other xorg.conf files
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• 3468[23:40:05] <Lady_Aleena> Primer: I've been navigating between "screens" with Alt-F1 and Alt-F2 each time you ask me to do to something.
• 3469[23:40:35] <Tenkawa> actually its not
• 3470[23:40:42] <Primer> Lady_Aleena: Excellent! So, instead of running startx in screen, alt-f2, and do so there, but don't do this yet
• 3471[23:40:53] <Tenkawa> but i'm not going to go there
• 3472[23:40:55] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, well, that's not screen but it's just as good
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• 3474[23:41:29] <Primer> The thing about X is that it will put the keyboard into raw mode and possibly hang the display if it crashes
• 3475[23:41:30] <Lady_Aleena> So I did not need screen to run irssi?
• 3476[23:41:32] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: don't confuse console terminals with the program 'screen' and don't startx as root. i'm 10-7
• 3477[23:41:51] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: yes and no
• 3478[23:41:53] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, no, not if you are doing that.
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• 3480[23:42:16] <Lady_Aleena> Then why did I install screen?
• 3481[23:42:36] <Primer> So what you want to do is use alt-f2, (or f3 or 4,5,6), login, do not run screen, but just run startx. This will attempt to run X, and likely fail. Once this fails, I'll want to see /var/log/Xorg.0.log
• 3482[23:42:50] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, ask LtL. I would have done it the way you're doing it now.
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• 3485[23:43:17] <Primer> I wanted to ensure you removed this file before every startx attempt, and sync the fs in case the machine hard locks, so we know we are looking at the file from the last attempt
• 3486[23:43:19] <kidnextdoor> can anyone help me, cant install steam in debian 9
• 3487[23:43:33] <Lady_Aleena> Still waiting for startx to give me back my prompt./
• 3488[23:43:41] <Primer> it doesn't
• 3489[23:43:44] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: so you could irc and detach to use terminal at the same time. switching consoles with alt-f1 alt-f2 is better
• 3490[23:43:48] <dvs> Alt+F7?
• 3491[23:44:01] <Tenkawa> kidnextdoor: did you go to that url posted earlier?
• 3492[23:44:08] <kidnextdoor> yes
• 3493[23:44:20] <Primer> One at a time, please
• 3494[23:44:30] <kidnextdoor> i tryed installing from repos and the file downloaded from steam site
• 3495[23:44:32] <kidnextdoor> nothing works
• 3496[23:44:37] <Primer> Lady_Aleena: you got ahead of yourself. Please explain exactly what you did
• 3497[23:44:38] <kidnextdoor> i jsut cant install some dependencies
• 3498[23:44:57] <Lady_Aleena> replaced-url
• 3499[23:45:09] <Lady_Aleena> ^/var/log/Xorg.0.log
• 3500[23:45:13] <Primer> Lady_Aleena: So you ran startx, and it output stuff, and...you expected it to exit? If all is well, it should NOT exit
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• 3502[23:45:53] <Primer> So you did alt-f1 to come back to IRC, to report this now?
• 3503[23:45:54] <Tenkawa> kidnextdoor: did you add the architecture and reload the package cache first
• 3504[23:45:55] <Lady_Aleena> Primer: It did finally exit with the line: xinit: server error
• 3505[23:46:02] <kidnextdoor> yes
• 3506[23:46:04] <Lady_Aleena> Yes Primer.
• 3507[23:46:05] <Primer> Lady_Aleena: ok, this is good!
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• 3509[23:46:17] <Primer> reviewing that pastebin now
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• 3511[23:46:28] <dvs> trying to load 'nv'
• 3512[23:46:59] <Primer> As you probably already know, this is your problem: [ 1604.642] (WW) NVIDIA(0): The NVIDIA GeForce 210 GPU installed in this system is
• 3513[23:46:59] <Tenkawa> ok join #steam-help I'll see if I can help. I got 2 machines right here running it
• 3514[23:47:32] <kidnextdoor> i have minimal debian install, if that helps, i jsut installed minimal debian without anything then i added openbox, xdm, xorg nvidia drivers and thats it
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• 3516[23:47:37] <Primer> and all the text that follows. Things is: [ 1604.595] (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver 390.116 Sun Jan 27 05:57:42 PST 2019
• 3517[23:48:10] <Lady_Aleena> Primer: line number please?
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• 3520[23:48:16] <Primer> You have the wrong driver installed. I presume this was all done via pacakges? If so, you need to purge ALL nvidia packages and start over. This is actually very simple.
• 3521[23:48:20] <ziGuy> if anyone is interesting, libgl1-mesa-dri pkg solved my issue
• 3522[23:48:40] <Primer> Lady_Aleena: So, apt purge nvidia* (yes, I mean that)
• 3523[23:48:46] <dvs> the 340 is loaded
• 3524[23:48:52] <dvs> well installed
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• 3526[23:49:07] <Primer> dvs: except 390 is also
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• 3529[23:49:40] <Primer> the nvidia driver in installed via a meta pacakge
• 3530[23:49:42] <Tenkawa> kidnextdoor: I think you need more packages installed
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• 3532[23:49:53] <ziGuy> Thanks for your help guys
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• 3534[23:49:56] <Primer> And since you need the legacy driver, you need to install the correct nvidia meta pacakge
• 3535[23:49:57] <kidnextdoor> like qhat?
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• 3537[23:50:18] <dvs> Primer, the 340 legacy package is installed
• 3538[23:50:22] <Lady_Aleena> Hold on, too much at once again. Is that apt or apt-get?
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• 3540[23:50:24] <Primer> I'll confess, I have no experience with the legacy packages
• 3541[23:50:27] <Primer> dvs: trust me
• 3542[23:50:30] <Primer> I know what I'm doing
• 3543[23:50:38] <Tenkawa> kidnextdoor: thats what I opened up the other channel so you can paste that error again so i can tell you
• 3544[23:50:49] <LtL> Primer: make sure she has no screens running, my fault
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• 3547[23:50:56] <Primer> Lady_Aleena: verbatim: apt purge nvidia*
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• 3549[23:51:10] <Primer> LtL: her startx did exit
• 3550[23:51:21] <Primer> So I'm sure no X is running
• 3551[23:51:22] <Lady_Aleena> Do I need to log off of irssi, and come back without using "screen" as LtL suggests?
• 3552[23:51:25] <Primer> no
• 3553[23:51:35] <Primer> be in screem as you like
• 3554[23:51:40] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: quit irssi
• 3555[23:51:51] <Primer> but do not run startx from it, use the alt-fX method for startx. We'll get there in a bit.
• 3556[23:51:52] <dvs> LtL, stand back
• 3557[23:51:56] <Primer> sigh
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• 3560[23:52:25] <Lady_Aleena> purging now
• 3561[23:52:26] <Primer> no need to quit irssi. Please, you allowed me to take over. Like I said, I know what I'm doing. All is going as I've predicted </Emperor Palpatine>
• 3562[23:52:34] <Tenkawa> kidnextdoor: join #steam-help
• 3563[23:53:12] <Tenkawa> too noisy to paste errors
• 3564[23:53:24] <Primer> The next step will be to install the proper nvidia driver meta package. This will likely NOT be "nvidia-driver", as this will install 390 (which showed up in the X log, so it has to go)
• 3565[23:53:26] <Tenkawa> or pastebin
• 3566[23:53:26] <LtL> dvs: i didn't know if she's ona phone or irssi, standing back.
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• 3568[23:53:36] <Tenkawa> and shoot me the url
• 3569[23:53:57] <kidnextdoor> i got it
• 3570[23:54:04] <Lady_Aleena> LtL: I am now on irssi on my computer, not on my phone (except to see things in a browser).
• 3571[23:54:05] <kidnextdoor> my nvidis driver was legacy
• 3572[23:54:06] <Primer> Like I wrote earlier, I don't know what this procedure entails, but I suspect it'll be something like nvidia-driver-340
• 3573[23:54:09] <Tenkawa> cool
• 3574[23:54:12] <kidnextdoor> im gona try with normal one
• 3575[23:54:14] <Tenkawa> congrats
• 3576[23:54:28] <Lady_Aleena> Primer: purge complete
• 3577[23:54:34] <kidnextdoor> thank you
• 3578[23:54:41] <Tenkawa> its fun to be able to run
• 3579[23:54:45] <Primer> We'll then review what apt will install and check for conflicts before installing
• 3580[23:54:47] <Tenkawa> believe me
• 3581[23:55:14] <Tenkawa> now if I could only run my Epic games
• 3582[23:55:21] <Primer> Lady_Aleena: ok, so now we need to find this meta pacakge. I'm going to look on my debian 9 install. Give me a sec
• 3583[23:55:32] <Lady_Aleena> Primer: take your time.
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• 3585[23:56:06] <Tenkawa> but they take a bit much more cpu/ram
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• 3587[23:56:42] <Tenkawa> and the gl porting alone looks scary
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• 3589[23:56:44] <Primer> Looks like this is it: nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver/stable 304.137-5~deb9u1 amd64 NVIDIA metapackage (304xx legacy version)
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• 3592[23:57:32] <Primer> Lady_Aleena: This is the commadn you will run next: apt install nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver But I want to first confirm, at no time did you install the nvidia .run file on this machine?
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• 3594[23:58:18] <Primer> I should phrase questions more better...I want to confirm that you only ever used debian packages to get the nvidia driver working and never the nvidia-Whatever.run file and that method
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• 3598[23:59:08] <Lady_Aleena> Primer: I do not know if I ever used a .run file. I haven't had to set up nvidia for years, so I don't remember what I did the last 2 times.
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• 3600[23:59:21] <Lady_Aleena> However, I don't think I did.
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• 3602[23:59:43] <Primer> Let's presume that was never the case then. run that apt command, and hopefully it'll work
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