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62 [01:05:06] <aokmanga> hi all!
63 [01:05:40] <aokmanga> I've a big big problem with my linux system that seems to be impossible to solve... or at least I'm looking since a couple of days and still not found a solution
64 [01:06:35] <aokmanga> after 1 days that my pc is on memory usage reach around 99% and start swapping... Systems starts lagging and became impossible to use...
65 [01:07:40] <aokmanga> looking at processes using memory doesn't count for 99% of memory usage, I also tried clearing cache memory but nothing changes, I'm not able to find out where is the memory leak
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75 [01:17:59] <ryouma> so, like, htop is no use?
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78 [01:19:20] <aokmanga> ryouma i've 8gb ram and htop is less than 8gb usage
79 [01:19:45] <ryouma> um
80 [01:19:52] <kadiro> oh
81 [01:19:57] <aokmanga> also because i'm using only firefox and hexchat actually... also closing firefox and everything doesn't solve the situation
82 [01:20:18] <kadiro> I have only 2G ram but never had such a problem
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84 [01:20:35] <aokmanga> me too... it's the first time having this problem
85 [01:20:51] <kadiro> may be a driver issue
86 [01:20:57] <aokmanga> and it get worse time after time... if I restart it's ok
87 [01:21:04] <aokmanga> than after some hours is around 20-30%
88 [01:21:18] <aokmanga> after a day it reaches 99% and it's impossible to use
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90 [01:21:32] <kadiro> which process eat that much memory?
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92 [01:21:57] <aokmanga> kadiro, none apparently
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96 [01:22:23] <kadiro> you checked dmesg / journalctl for any problems?
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98 [01:23:17] <kadiro> It could be a hardware too ( ex hdd )
99 [01:23:17] <aokmanga> biggest memory usage is 0.2% on htop. I check now kadiro
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104 [01:24:00] <kadiro> see the journal for any errors
105 [01:25:49] <aokmanga> kadiro, dmesg returns me an error from an usb hdd i plugged hours ago, now disconnected. Never used journalctl, it says No journal files were found
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108 [01:26:48] <aokmanga> on dmesg is Buffer I/O error on dev sdb, logical block 244190645, async page read but doesn't seems to be linkable to the memory leak problem
109 [01:27:20] <kadiro> aokmanga, run it as root, it can't show you anything as a user ..
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113 [01:28:31] <aokmanga> as root same thing for dmesg journalctl and htop
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115 [01:29:11] <kadiro> journalctl does not show anything?
116 [01:30:16] <kadiro> or may be try old school using /var/log/syslog
117 [01:30:29] <kadiro> it must be something wrong in the logs
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120 [01:33:18] <aokmanga> kadiro, journalctl shows nothing... syslog is almost identical to dmesg, nothing important apparently. I must highlight that I'm currently using mx_linux, based on Debian stable
121 [01:33:44] <kadiro> ah
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125 [01:34:39] <kadiro> aokmanga, In this case you must see the irc channel for mx_linux, may be they have some configs that caused the problem
126 [01:35:23] <aokmanga> kadiro, I checked but there are 6 people inside, bot included that's why I tried to find a solution here
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128 [01:35:58] <kadiro> aokmanga, try ##linux as it is a general channel about linux
129 [01:36:12] <aokmanga> thank you :-)
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132 [01:36:58] <kadiro> aokmanga, no problem
133 [01:37:14] <aokmanga> kadiro, impossible to enter... only invited...
134 [01:38:37] <aokmanga> anyway thank you for your support. Maybe I've to change distro... this one is giving me this problem since start but I wanted to solve it instead of change everything
135 [01:38:56] <kadiro> aokmanga, I think you must register your nick
136 [01:39:50] <kadiro> aokmanga, replaced-url
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139 [01:40:55] <aokmanga> I think I'll try tomorrow because now if I open browser it starts lagging so much that i destroy everything :-)
140 [01:40:57] <kadiro> aokmanga, you can also ask here, may be someone else can help, I'm not expert :)
141 [01:41:39] <aokmanga> I m trying not to restart to mantain the problem :-P If I restart i need more 24h to return
142 [01:41:54] <kadiro> oh
143 [01:42:00] <kadiro> thats a pain
144 [01:42:17] <aokmanga> very annoying
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148 [01:43:34] <koality> hello
149 [01:43:36] <kadiro> aokmanga, in my opinion it is a config ( a process start and do something horrible or a hardware problem like disks or something )
150 [01:44:39] <koality> I've been trying to figure out permissions today, can someone please verify if my understanding is correct? "-rwsr-s--S 1 owner group..." means owner has rwx permissions, group has rx permissions (but inherits w from owner on execution), and other has no permissions (but inherits rwx from owner on execution).
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153 [01:46:17] <aokmanga> Thank you kadiro. I shutdown everything and go to sleep for today. Here is 1.45 :-) Good night
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159 [01:50:21] <stephen77> hi
160 [01:50:31] <mrjpaxton> Hellos.
161 [01:50:39] <stephen77> Is there a way to get information about why a file isn't getting freed? I checked and there's no processes keeping it open
162 [01:50:49] <stephen77> I deleted it and used gdb to close the file
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164 [01:51:00] <mrjpaxton> Try lsof <file>
165 [01:51:02] <stephen77> It doesn't show up in lsof, yet I don't have any extra disk space
166 [01:51:08] <mrjpaxton> Hmm...
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168 [01:52:42] <stephen77> Actually, I got some of the space back when my free space dropped it 19MB
169 [01:52:48] <stephen77> but I only got 10GB back of a 50GB file
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261 [03:21:25] <ryouma> what is the variable that sets the priority of debconf temporarily? also, what can you do to change the colors of debconf?
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279 [03:31:55] <lsjet> Hello, couple questions: 1) How do I get startx working as non-root? I don't want to use a display manager. 2) Why do I have libsystemd0 installed? What does it do?
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282 [03:32:58] <kadiro> ryouma, I think the secret about it can be found here /etc/debconf.conf
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288 [03:36:59] <ryouma> kadiro: i appreciate the documenter's documentation, but i find nothing in there that is equivalent to DEBIAN_FRONTEND for priority, nor anything about the colors for dialog or whatever the program is.
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290 [03:40:12] <aloo_shu> lsjet startx is a script that will do what the distro set it up to do, and that's normally getting the display manager up. You *may* be lucky by invoking your desktop environment's session manager directly, e.g. in my case, that would be xfce4-session
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292 [03:40:33] <ryouma> i want to set debconf priority to high for a single command. i also want to change teh colors of dialog or whatever it is.
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295 [03:41:23] <lsjet> I don't run a desktop environment. I've always just run awesomewm directly from startx under Debian.
296 [03:41:47] <lsjet> Not being able to do that would be a deal breaker for using Devuan
297 [03:42:43] <lsjet> I do not use a session manager
298 [03:42:55] <ryouma> lsjet: idgi. startx wfm. from login prompt.
299 [03:43:07] <ryouma> but in debian, not devuan.
300 [03:43:08] <karlpinc> !Devuan
301 [03:43:08] <dpkg> Devuan (replaced-url
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303 [03:43:36] <lsjet> Sorry, I don't understand what you just said
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305 [03:43:44] <ryouma> lsjet: what os are you on?
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308 [03:44:08] <lsjet> ascii
309 [03:44:14] <lsjet> new install
310 [03:44:34] <aloo_shu> lsjet otherwise, what I do (but have no idea how kosher it is), is, as root, running xinit /usr/bin/xterm -- /usr/bin/Xorg (optionally followed by :0, :1, :2, whatever the next free display would be), then in the resulting xterm, su to my normal user, and invoke whatever I want to invoke
311 [03:44:56] <aloo_shu> lsjet: startx is not always the same, read man startx
312 [03:44:57] <ryouma> lsjet: debian or devuan?
313 [03:45:13] <ryouma> ascii is not an os afaik
314 [03:45:23] <kadiro> ryouma, did you read this doc replaced-url
315 [03:45:33] <lsjet> ascii is a release of Devuan
316 [03:46:29] <aloo_shu> lsjet: 'I have started such and such with startx' doesn't make sense, you need to use xinit if you want to fire up things manually, otherwise, write or get the correct startx for what you want
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319 [03:47:22] <ryouma> kadiro: thanks, that does not seem to answer either of my questions. i have alraedy done dpkg-reconfigure, but that is for the defaut,not for one command., and it does not say anything about changing colors in the defaultfrontend?
320 [03:47:26] <lsjet> Under Debian Stretch lauching startx without a display manager works as long as /usr/bin/xinit is suid, but the same thing fails under Devuan
321 [03:47:30] <karlpinc> lsjet: Sorry, but this channel is for debian support. Try asking in #devuan.
322 [03:48:14] <epsilon> quick question about diff & patch: I have created a patch file, but the line numbers have changed due to new/deleted lines in the original file. Is there a way to 'update' the patch file with new line numbers?
323 [03:48:22] <lsjet> oh, haha. joined wrong channel and didn't notice. :)
324 [03:48:31] <lsjet> duh
325 [03:48:32] <kadiro> ryouma, there are choices I think when you run that command, i think one of them let you configure it manually, may be i'm wrong
326 [03:48:39] <aloo_shu> lsjet, that's really devuan specific then, you can't blame ppl to send you to devuan then
327 [03:49:55] <lsjet> I know...I said I made a mistake. Thought I was in #devuan
328 [03:50:07] <lsjet> oops
329 [03:50:55] <ryouma> kadiro: i alraedy confuigured it manually. i want to make a single call similar to DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get ..., except to set priority to critical or high. also, i want to change colors of dialog. (that one can be permanent.)
330 [03:51:14] <lsjet> sorry for the confusion
331 [03:51:15] <karlpinc> aloo_shu: The trouble is that we know debian here, and don't know what's specific to debian and what's not. (And we don't want to interrupt support for debian.) If you want help with something not-debian that's running on debian, maybe we can help. But general computer support is something else.
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333 [03:51:49] <kadiro> ryouma, I see, my bad, thats out of my knowledge :)
334 [03:52:36] <karlpinc> ryouma: I'm kinda gettin into your thread late here, but dpkg-reconfigure has a -f option that sets the frontend.
335 [03:53:12] <karlpinc> ryouma: As for the particular frontend in question, maybe there's a man page?
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338 [03:55:18] <karlpinc> ryouma: So "man dpkg-reconfigure" says -f for frontend, -p for minimium priority, and so forth. If you're using dialog, there may be a way to set an env var to control color, or something.
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346 [04:03:10] <ryouma> karlpinc: hi, ithanks for joining. i already looked at dialog manpage. it lets the /package maintainer/ set colors, but there is nothing there for the /user/ to set colors. thecolors are completely unusable for me at night which is when i typcally need to isntall or upgrade. as for non-dialog options, they either use kde/gnome which i don't, or they do not show defaults, which is a dealbreaker. so i think i am s
347 [04:03:10] <ryouma> tuck with dialog. so i want to change its colors. esp the blue bg and the light grey bg and the unreadable red.
348 [04:03:47] <ryouma> karlpinc: as for -p for minimuym priority, that sets the /default/. i awnt to set it for /a siggle apt-get call/.
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362 [04:23:57] <ryouma> man page for debconf refers to debconf(7) which does not exist
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378 [04:35:12] <dfkqn_> how can I change the timezone so it used the local time? right now it wrongly applies the bias to the hw clock time
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380 [04:35:55] <Bjornn> anyone here using brave broswer on linux?
381 [04:36:07] <Bjornn> they have an install guide but don't list debian for some reason.
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384 [04:36:51] <kadiro> dfkqn_, your answer is hwclock
385 [04:37:29] <dfkqn_> will it persist?
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387 [04:39:20] <dax> assuming you're not dualbooting: set your system clock to UTC, and set the correct timezone so that Debian displays the correct time
388 [04:39:49] <dfkqn_> not an option dax
389 [04:39:52] <dax> why?
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391 [04:40:37] <dax> anyway, for the first see hwclock (in the package util-linux, I think). for the second, dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
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393 [04:41:13] <dfkqn_> gmt is stupid
394 [04:41:53] <dax> which is not a concern, because you set the correct timezone using dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
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405 [04:47:15] <dfkqn_> i used `hwclock -s --localtime`, but after reboot everything went back to the wrong time
406 [04:47:19] <ryouma> "In addition, running Debian has high nerd value as compared to other distributions such as RedHatLinux. It has the benefit of being generally usable and largely accepted in a production environment while still being l33t. " replaced-url
407 [04:47:37] <ryouma> why?
408 [04:47:58] <dfkqn_> how can i make the stuff persist?
409 [04:48:43] <dax> use --utc instead of --localtime and set the hwclock to UTC, since you're not dualbooting
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411 [04:49:29] <dfkqn_> that would be a stupid thing to do
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416 [04:50:28] <dax> nah, a stupid thing to do would be spending hours on IRC asking the same question over and over in multiple mutually-exclusive channels and then ignoring when you're given the correct answer by multiple people
417 [04:51:17] <dfkqn_> i used "hwclock" and it did not work
418 [04:51:43] <dax> what, specifically, did you run?
419 [04:52:21] <dfkqn_> "hwclock -s --localtime"
420 [04:52:31] <dax> cool
421 [04:52:35] <dax> are you using Ubuntu or Debian?
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425 [04:53:16] <dfkqn_> jessie
426 [04:53:21] <dax> good to know. thanks.
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436 [05:01:48] <dfkqn_> so what was "the correct answer by multiple people" i supposedly was given, dax?
437 [05:01:55] <dax> to use UTC
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443 [05:07:03] <dfkqn_> but i didn't asked whether utc should be used, so it isn't the answer
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445 [05:07:20] <dax> cool
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459 [05:29:37] <EdePopede> of course it is the answer. your bios clock is set to UTC and the system takes care of your local offset including summertime. then you will have exactly what you want: your local time available.
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461 [05:30:48] <dfkqn_> clock should show the time here, not somewhere in uk
462 [05:31:57] <CrystalMath> hi everyone
463 [05:32:04] <CrystalMath> i have a general question about dpkg
464 [05:32:15] <CrystalMath> i have this package i'm trying to build
465 [05:32:20] <CrystalMath> with dpkg-buildpackage
466 [05:32:34] <CrystalMath> but it keeps depending on init-system-helpers version 1.51 or newer
467 [05:32:38] <CrystalMath> now, i'm on stable
468 [05:32:41] <CrystalMath> so i have 1.48
469 [05:32:48] <CrystalMath> how do i override this and just say "no it doesn't depend on it"
470 [05:33:20] <CrystalMath> there's this .substvars file that has it
471 [05:33:33] <CrystalMath> but it seems to disappear
472 [05:33:41] <CrystalMath> when i start dpkg-buildpackage
473 [05:33:41] <EdePopede> dfkqn_: "clock" is singular. which one do you mean? the system clock you see on your desktop and which is used by your system and all the software or your hardware clock which simply has to keep time while the PC is off or not connected to the internet?
474 [05:34:20] <dfkqn_> the hw clock
475 [05:35:07] <CrystalMath> where it is even getting this crazy idea of depending on init-system-helpers >= 1.51
476 [05:35:16] <CrystalMath> it's really frustrating
477 [05:35:22] <CrystalMath> i wish dpkg was simpler
478 [05:35:27] <EdePopede> dfkqn_: if you set it to local time you usually have to change it 2 times per year. and if it a laptop you take with you it will be wrong again after you cross a timezone or a national border.
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480 [05:36:09] <EdePopede> dfkqn_: setting the hw clock to localtime is a dirty workaround for broken system which have no clue about timezones and NTP.
481 [05:36:39] <EdePopede> CrystalMath: what package is dpkg-buildpackage?
482 [05:37:10] <CrystalMath> err, that's in dpkg-dev
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484 [05:38:53] <CrystalMath> ohhhh, nevermind
485 [05:38:59] <CrystalMath> the issue is that i have debhelper from backports
486 [05:39:02] <jmabsd> is there any useful way to trace the reason a debian installation unexpectedly crashed?
487 [05:39:07] <CrystalMath> but not init-system-helpers from backports
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490 [05:40:13] <CrystalMath> yep, nothing wrong with dpkg, i was just dumb and hysterical
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498 [05:47:41] <EdePopede> CrystalMath: ah :) and could it be that there is a recommendation in the dependency path? did some tests with debtree, had to use --show-all to get init-system-helpers into the tree.
499 [05:48:20] <EdePopede> didn't create a png, the .dot file is 157k, compared to 28k for the one w/o any options
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503 [05:54:21] <CrystalMath> EdePopede: it seems that dh-autoreconf injects it
504 [05:54:25] <CrystalMath> into misc:Depends
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506 [05:54:44] <CrystalMath> presumably because it involves editing services
507 [05:55:02] <CrystalMath> unfortunately, the package doesn't work :(
508 [05:56:09] <EdePopede> apt depends on it. which is needed by apt-utils (recommended for debconf)
509 [05:56:33] <CrystalMath> no i mean
510 [05:56:35] <CrystalMath> the package i created
511 [05:56:36] <EdePopede> no, apt. you weren't meant ;)
512 [05:58:15] <EdePopede> debtree&dot is a great team.
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553 [07:12:34] <EdePopede> is X{{1..3},{5..8}} the shortest form to get in bash the 7 words? seems it can't mix lists and ranges in one set.
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556 [07:14:16] <kadiro> what about X{1..8}
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559 [07:15:26] <EdePopede> kadiro: doesn't omit the 4
560 [07:15:58] <kadiro> EdePopede, ah didn't notice that
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562 [07:16:03] <EdePopede> (it's about creating mountpoints on the fly for an traditional disk layout)
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616 [08:07:29] <clairedesu> Does anyone use a yubikey/fido device? I have a weird issue with finding libraries for pamu2fcfg
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620 [08:08:23] <clairedesu> it says "pamu2fcfg: error while loading shared libraries: libu2f-server.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
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622 [08:08:36] <clairedesu> I can't find anyone else that has that error...
623 [08:09:22] <rwp> Is libu2f-server.so.0 installed on the system?
624 [08:09:57] <KaitoDaumoto> man which
625 [08:10:14] <KaitoDaumoto> oh sorry
626 [08:10:15] <KaitoDaumoto> lol
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628 [08:10:32] <clairedesu> oh dear
629 [08:10:39] <clairedesu> it seems like all of my .so files are empty
630 [08:10:50] <clairedesu> I have to reinstall the packages that use the files one by one
631 [08:11:02] <clairedesu> it seems like all the -0 packages
632 [08:11:58] <clairedesu> I'm just doing apt-file from each error that pamu2fcfg gives me, and reinstalling said packages one by one
633 [08:12:04] <clairedesu> I've tried all the automatic apt clean stuff
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639 [08:14:59] <rwp> You can look for files that are zero sized with "find /lib /usr/lib -size 0 -ls" and get a complete list all at once.
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641 [08:15:54] <clairedesu> well, they're not actually zero-sized
642 [08:15:57] <clairedesu> they're just not there
643 [08:16:00] <clairedesu> but apt seems not to notice
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645 [08:19:03] <clairedesu> hmm, I just reinstalled around 3 libraries
646 [08:19:05] <clairedesu> and it works now
647 [08:19:06] <clairedesu> (sort of)
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649 [08:20:10] <rwp> When you said the .so files were empty I thought that meant empty. (shrug) Glad you have made forward progress.
650 [08:24:19] <clairedesu> well, now pam can't find the pam_u2f.so file
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654 [08:28:23] <clairedesu> reinstalling the libpam-u2f package seemed to work...
655 [08:29:05] <rwp> This just seems very strange that you would be having shared library problems like this. Seems to me that something must have happened. Full disk? Bad SATA cable? Cosmic rays from space?
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657 [08:29:34] <clairedesu> well, I wrongly configured PAM, so I plugged the pi's SD card into my laptop and edited the PAM file on that
658 [08:30:36] <rwp> That mystery is explained then. But the others?
659 [08:31:13] <clairedesu> oh, it wasn't because I didn't configure pam correctly
660 [08:31:16] <clairedesu> the .so errors, that is
661 [08:31:47] <clairedesu> I did get a strange warning talking about /var/lib/$username/ts/ or something like that
662 [08:32:04] <clairedesu> sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/ts/claire: Structure needs cleaning
663 [08:32:26] <rwp> SD card failure? You might try doing a full read from every block on the card and seeing if there are any errors from it. I have had cards fail before.
664 [08:33:46] <clairedesu> well, I ran an fsck and it was fine
665 [08:34:14] <clairedesu> I'll just chalk it up to forgetting to eject the disk unless something else happens
666 [08:34:56] <rwp> Not waiting for the data to sync before ejecting it could account for a lot of bad things.
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668 [08:35:56] <clairedesu> well, the u2f is working fine
669 [08:36:08] <clairedesu> aside from the fact that I realized using a u2f token for a headless machine makes no sense
670 [08:36:35] <clairedesu> it might be cool to have a file vault project with the epass as a "key"
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673 [08:38:18] <rwp> I have had it on my bucket list for a while to check out the mandos package and setting up my servers for headless encryption.
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678 [08:41:21] <clairedesu> i'd honestly be really surprised if the NSA didn't have backdoors into most-all u2f keys anyways
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682 [08:42:25] <rwp> I'm more optimistic about the security of u2f tokens. However my complain is that most of those are proprietary. I've had problems with that before.
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684 [08:44:50] <clairedesu> are the nxp ones proprietary?
685 [08:45:01] <clairedesu> I haven't actually heard of a fully free one
686 [08:45:09] <rwp> The particular one I was fighting was a SafeNet iKey 4000.
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689 [08:50:33] <clairedesu> have you been able to configure the software on non-yubikey keys? a lot of the management stuff seems windows-only
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698 [09:01:59] <clairedesu> I might eventually want to do stuff other than FIDO with it
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703 [09:09:52] <blackbart> I've installed several different versions of my usb wifi drivers from various github repos. How can I know which is currently active? More than two are loadable via 'modprobe rtl8822bu' and I wonder which is actually loading.
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706 [09:16:37] <nkuttler> blackbart: dmesg?
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717 [09:20:53] <dfkqn_> how can I change the timezone so it used the local time? right now it wrongly applies the bias to the hw clock time
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720 [09:23:28] <rant> dfkqn_: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
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722 [09:25:37] <dfkqn_> rant: i tried that, it asks for a timezone, than nothing changes
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724 [09:25:52] <dfkqn_> my system time is few hours into the future
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737 [09:33:07] <rant> its probably set to UTC
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742 [09:34:29] <dfkqn_> the clock are local, but the system applies the tz offset to it for some reason
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745 [09:35:14] <rant> are we talking about the hw clock or the sw clock?
746 [09:35:36] <dfkqn_> hw clock are the correct local time, sw clock are in the future
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750 [09:36:11] <rant> dfkqn_: and what does the date command say?
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755 [09:36:39] <dfkqn_> wrong time
756 [09:36:46] <rant> wrong tz?
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759 [09:36:59] * rant doesnt really care about the time
760 [09:37:14] <dfkqn_> tz is correct, but it is added to the local time
761 [09:37:30] <dfkqn_> the date should display the hw clock
762 [09:37:36] <rant> well it probably expects your hw clock to be in UTC
763 [09:37:45] <dfkqn_> yes, and I want to fix that
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767 [09:39:20] <rant> dfkqn_: replaced-url
768 [09:39:38] <rant> its industry wide standard for all OS to use UTC for the HW clock now
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770 [09:40:36] <rant> dfkqn_: the /etc/adjtime may still be in use
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772 [09:40:51] <rant> truth is since systemd I dont know the basics anymore :P
773 [09:41:04] <rant> systemd has its fingers in the clock among many other things
774 [09:41:50] <rant> dfkqn_: if that file is still used changing UTC to LOCAL should help
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777 [09:44:36] <dfkqn_> i tried hwclock, but it works only until reboot
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779 [09:45:32] <rant> yes well try changing /etc/adjtime too
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793 [09:53:14] <dfkqn_> hmm it has UTC for some reason, let's see will it work
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816 [10:05:54] <dfkqn_> lol has the mp3 patent finally expired?
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819 [10:08:47] <indomitable> can it even expire
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821 [10:10:41] <tuxmartin> Hi, I need to alow user "test" to run mysql command only with one command. I create file "/etc/sudoers.d/sql":
822 [10:10:47] <tuxmartin> test ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/mysql --login-path=local -s -e 'SELECT SUM(((DATA_LENGTH + INDEX_LENGTH))) FROM INFORMATION_SCHEMA.TABLES;'
823 [10:10:51] <tuxmartin> but after I try to use it:
824 [10:10:55] <tuxmartin> su -c "sudo /usr/bin/mysql --login-path=local -s -e 'SELECT SUM(((DATA_LENGTH + INDEX_LENGTH))) FROM INFORMATION_SCHEMA.TABLES;'" test
825 [10:11:04] <tuxmartin> it doesn't work:
826 [10:11:07] <tuxmartin> "sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified"
827 [10:11:10] <tuxmartin> How can I solve this?
828 [10:11:51] <tryphe> tuxmartin, instead of modifying the file you could add to the sudo group: sudo usermod -aG sudo <username>
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830 [10:12:39] <jelly> tryphe, that would allow running _any_ command as root
831 [10:13:19] <jelly> tuxmartin, "no tty present" is the key take. man sudoers, read about requiretty
832 [10:13:34] <tuxmartin> I need to allow only this command to user "test". No all commands.
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835 [10:15:02] <tryphe> jelly, but they didn't say what they were doing
836 [10:15:16] <tuxmartin> If I add "Defaults:test !requiretty" to /etc/sudoers.d/sql, I still havee the same problem.
837 [10:15:22] <tryphe> you can just make a sudo_limited group then with 1 line, and then not have to modify the file at all
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843 [10:18:36] <dfkqn_> somehow debian can blay mp3s out-of-the-box
844 [10:18:49] <tuxmartin> tryphe: can you please explain it?
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846 [10:19:18] <indomitable> dfkqn_, no it can't
847 [10:19:23] <indomitable> you've installed non-free packages
848 [10:19:35] <indomitable> maybe they enabled non-free by default now
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851 [10:21:23] <jelly> indomitable, debian never had mp3 decoding disabled.
852 [10:21:34] <indomitable> really? o_O
853 [10:21:41] <indomitable> I never install "real" debian
854 [10:21:47] <indomitable> it's always some stripped down thing
855 [10:23:26] <jelly> that does not matter, really. Even mplayer 1 15+ years back would play mp3 files.
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858 [10:24:32] <tryphe> tuxmartin, hmm, did you check if /etc/sudoers has includedir /etc/sudoers.d commented?
859 [10:24:50] <tryphe> tuxmartin, could be the problem, it's not enabled by default
860 [10:25:35] <jelly> tryphe, if they did not have permissions to run a command, they would not get a tty problem then, but a different error
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862 [10:26:48] <jelly> er, I'm wrong
863 [10:27:51] <jelly> so it might just be a case of wrong command being run, then
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867 [10:28:45] <jelly> tuxmartin, can you try enabling access to a simpler command without all the quotes, like "/bin/echo works", see if that works?
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876 [10:38:37] <obiwahn> They may be set by administrators in system login/rc files, /etc/login.conf, or similar mechanisms,
877 [10:38:39] <obiwahn> or users in their shell's login/rc files.
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879 [10:39:07] <obiwahn> What is the equivalent of those files in debian?
880 [10:39:16] <jooordi> hello
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882 [10:39:39] <obiwahn> that is taken from the mosh-server manpage in debian 10
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889 [10:45:06] <jmabsd> is there any useful way to trace the reason a debian installation unexpectedly crashed?
890 [10:46:17] <jooordi> i'm looking for support... after apt-upgrade (with new kernel image) i can't login to my desktop, on the login prompt the mouse and keyboard doesn't work (using laptop with/without external usb devices). i'm now in a ubuntu live. I want to boot in console mode to run some commands but i don't know how
891 [10:46:26] <jooordi> I have chrooted from live cd to update grub (/etc/default/grub), and changed de "quiet" part with "text", also disabled comment for console mode, now the grub screen has a different look (more ugly), but after boot still going to the login prompt, so i'm reading i need to change systemd
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894 [10:47:30] <jooordi> but i can't figure out how to change systemd, y don't found the "default.taget" file to change to "multi-user.target"
895 [10:47:56] <jooordi> also i can't run commands from chrooted ubuntu on the debian systemd because systemctl says i'm chroot....
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986 [11:49:36] <tichun> What do you think about available Vulkan library in Debian? It is 1.0.39 versus upstream 1.1.107. Should this worry potential learners?
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1044 [12:26:55] <judd> Package: nvidia-vulkan-icd on amd64 -- stretch/non-free: 390.87-8~deb9u1; stretch-proposed-updates/non-free: 390.116-1; stretch-backports/non-free: 410.104-1~bpo9+1; buster/non-free: 410.104-3; sid/non-free: 415.27-2; experimental/non-free: 418.56-1
1045 [12:27:34] <at0m> ,v libvulkan1
1046 [12:27:35] <judd> Package: libvulkan1 on amd64 -- stretch: 1.0.39.0+dfsg1-1; stretch-backports: 1.1.70+dfsg1-1~bpo9+1; buster: 1.1.97-2; sid: 1.1.101.0-2
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1231 [15:00:09] <Ben_1> Hi
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1233 [15:00:17] <Ben_1> if I wanna format my hdd (sda) with cryptsetup luksFormat, should I pass the partition "sda1" or the device "sda" as target?
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1244 [15:01:46] <EdePopede> what's the meaning behind this rather unique filename of the lib? replaced-url
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1246 [15:02:37] <jcrain> Ben_1: you almost certainly want "sda1"
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1248 [15:04:50] <jcrain> since you probably still want to have a partition table on that drive
1249 [15:05:08] <BCMM> EdePopede: well, it's the library component of klibc, so it's called lib klibc
1250 [15:05:39] <BCMM> EdePopede: there is also an executable component called kblic-utils
1251 [15:05:53] <BCMM> replaced-url
1252 [15:06:18] <BCMM> oh sorry i thought you meant the repetition of "lib"
1253 [15:06:34] <Ben_1> jcrain: thank you :)
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1281 [15:20:09] <Ben_1> jcrain: is there a way to get more information about the encryption methods? I already encrypted my ssd while setting up debian and now I want to encrypt the HDD with the same encryption standard. But I don't know details of the encryption.
1282 [15:20:42] <Ben_1> "cryptsetup status" just returns "type: n/a"
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1284 [15:23:11] <jcrain> for me, it returns about 10 lines like "type: LUKS1 / cipher: aes-xts-plain64 / etc..."
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1288 [15:25:09] <jcrain> from the command "cryptsetup status /dev/mapper/sda8_crypt"
1289 [15:25:37] <Ben_1> I don't have a mapper dir in /dev/
1290 [15:25:54] <Ben_1> I can pass the mapper name to cryptsetup
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1292 [15:26:18] <Ben_1> but it always says "parition is active and in use. Type: n/a"
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1297 [15:28:46] <Ben_1> jcrain: maybe it is not working cause they are active?
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1302 [15:32:12] <jcrain> I don't know. mine is "active and is in use" too.
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1305 [15:33:25] <Ben_1> mh strange. q.q
1306 [15:33:46] <Ben_1> I'll check the manual
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1308 [15:36:15] <Ben_1> mh ok I just used the default encryption on hdd and I can see the status for the hdd
1309 [15:36:26] <Ben_1> but still home and root partition are type: n/a
1310 [15:36:52] <Ben_1> mh maybe there were encryption with something else than LUKS
1311 [15:37:08] <Ben_1> let me check what debian is using at the installation setup
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1415 [16:36:51] <dob1> !buster
1416 [16:36:51] <dpkg> The release following Debian 9 "Stretch" is codenamed "Buster" (Andy's pet Dachshund in Toy Story) and will be Debian 10. replaced-url
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1424 [16:43:24] <dob1> !buster release date ? :)
1425 [16:43:47] <greycat> !wir
1426 [16:43:47] <dpkg> wir is, like, When It's Ready. See also <rsn> and <siyh>.
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1428 [16:45:53] <dob1> I was expecting this answer :)
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1436 [16:48:26] <EdePopede> ... and <wwbr>
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1482 [17:19:28] * Bjornn want's wir to mean 'when I'm ready' ahaha
1483 [17:19:59] <greycat> !rsn
1484 [17:19:59] <dpkg> [rsn] Real Soon Now (see <wir> and <siyh>), or Robust Security Network: the Wi-Fi Alliance's full 802.11i implementation (aka WPA2, see <wpa>).
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1486 [17:21:46] <EdePopede> debian could make some money by accepting bets
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1488 [17:22:38] <ksk> EdePopede: I think there are bets on dpkg somewhere, but no money ;)
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1490 [17:23:23] <greycat> !buster pool 1
1491 [17:23:23] <dpkg> ! coruja=2019-06-25 themíll=2019-06-15 jëlly=2019-08-01 petn-rándall=2019-07-28
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1494 [17:26:50] <indomitable> EdePopede, accepting bets on what
1495 [17:27:10] <EdePopede> indomitable: buster release date
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1497 [17:27:45] <indomitable> they'd rig the system
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1506 [17:36:11] <Bjornn> I like new stuff. Anxiously waiting.. :)
1507 [17:36:21] <ksk> ,v tippero
1508 [17:36:22] <judd> No package named 'tippero' was found in amd64.
1509 [17:36:26] <ksk> :(
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1513 [17:37:00] <ksk> there is an xmr based irc tip (and bet..) bot on github, fell free :P
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1516 [17:37:47] <EdePopede> i can't, we have strict laws about gambling in germany ;)
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1519 [17:40:15] <greycat> strace
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1529 [17:46:56] <rupeyrup> thx
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1659 [19:18:54] <manoj> exit
1660 [19:18:58] <manoj> eixt
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1662 [19:19:09] <manoj> ls
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1698 [19:52:48] <mezgani> Hello
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1702 [19:56:16] <TurqFlame> Hi
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1714 [20:13:22] <master> Cześć.Jest ktoś z Polin?
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1723 [20:17:49] <annadane> master, #debian.pl
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1725 [20:18:41] <greycat> !pl
1726 [20:18:41] <dpkg> Na kanale #debian rozmawiamy po angielsku; jesli chcesz lub wolisz mowic po polsku, wejdz na kanal #debian-pl na irc.freenode.net (Polish speakers please go to #debian-pl on irc.freenode.net). pl is also <perl>.
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1728 [20:19:02] <annadane> dpkg is wrong with !polish, then
1729 [20:19:02] <dpkg> annadane: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface.
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1731 [20:20:12] <greycat> dpkg, no, polish is <reply>see pl
1732 [20:20:12] <dpkg> okay, greycat
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1734 [20:20:34] <annadane> aaaaa i just fixed it though
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1737 [20:21:08] <annadane> it's also a bit silly to have a factoid that does nothing but link to another factoid
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1739 [20:21:53] <greycat> People invoke factoids by the "alias" name all the time.
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1749 [20:26:59] <master> Luck replaced-url
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1795 [21:00:03] <tichun> Hi. I've just installed Debian and due wifi firmware not being available in the installer, I couldn't configure repositories. Now I say that because my Chromium is v70, while Debian website shows it's at 73 and there's [security] written in red. Should I append something like 'security' into sources list?
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1798 [21:00:52] <greycat> !stretch sources.list
1799 [21:00:52] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
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1946 [22:36:21] <shush> Hi, so I have an VPS running Wheezy which I know is an old version and no longer in LTS, but I am having an issue with certbot that to reinstall certificates. Rather than go through a whole upgrade procedure, I'd rather just fix the issue with certbot if possible.
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1948 [22:36:45] <greycat> my wheezy VPS uses a jessie version of dehydrated, not certbot
1949 [22:36:49] <somiaj> shush: look up ELTS (I think they are supporting wheezy for another bit)
1950 [22:37:08] <greycat> not really.
1951 [22:37:13] <somiaj> replaced-url
1952 [22:37:25] <greycat> ,info dehydrated
1953 [22:37:26] <judd> Package dehydrated (misc, optional) in stretch/amd64: ACME client implemented in Bash. Version: 0.3.1-3+deb9u2; Size: 70.1k; Installed: 143k; Homepage: replaced-url
1954 [22:37:35] <somiaj> did ELTS not get much traction, I thought freexian had some support to keep some packagese secure.
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1956 [22:38:02] <shush> Here's what happens with certbot btw if anyone could recognize the issue: replaced-url
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1959 [22:38:26] <greycat> I seriously doubt anyone's going to be able to tell you how to make certbot work on wheezy.
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1961 [22:39:02] <shush> greycat: Is there a way to renew certificates without certbot?
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1963 [22:39:07] <shush> like a manual way?
1964 [22:39:18] <greycat> As I *said*, I am using dehydrated to do that. On wheezy. Have been for months.
1965 [22:39:35] <dax> dehydrated is <3
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1967 [22:39:41] <somiaj> in terms of the errors this is what I notice. 1) why are you using a 'testing' repo on wheezy, also what is this third party replaced-url
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1969 [22:40:10] <greycat> frankenwheezy
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1973 [22:42:23] <somiaj> also it appears there is an issue with your python virtual enviroment that is causing the command to fail. "/opt/eff.org/certbot/venv/bin/python: No module named pip.__main__; 'pip' is a package and cannot be directly executed"
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1975 [22:42:27] <jhutchins_wk> somiaj: I believe rabbitmq is where certbot comes from.
1976 [22:42:53] <somiaj> ahh, so maybe the issue is the certbot they are getting is for buster and are trying to use it on wheezy causing lots of issues
1977 [22:43:26] <jhutchins_wk> shush: It's likely that certbot has been updated to use current versions of the packages it needs. You could (theoretically) try an earlier release of certbot.
1978 [22:43:48] <jhutchins_wk> shush: I wouldn't recommend it though, if you need an SSL cert you need current, supported software with bugfixes.
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1980 [22:44:19] <greycat> well no, you need software that works on your platform, and if your platform is wheezy, that limits your options
1981 [22:44:45] <greycat> I managed to get the jessie version of dehydrated to work but I had to tweak some shit.
1982 [22:45:15] <greycat> Like, it has some URL of some document that I'm supposed to read or swear that I've read, or something, and that URL was no longer correcdt.
1983 [22:46:10] <greycat> LICENSE=replaced-url
1984 [22:46:21] <greycat> that's a line I had to put in /etc/dehydrated/conf.d/local.sh
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1988 [22:47:19] <greycat> /usr/bin/dehydrated has LICENSE="replaced-url
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