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1 [00:01:11] <format_c> EdePopede: Well... good old days.... but still I don't think you can hide the scrollbar of xterm while running
2 [00:01:12] <karlpinc> Great. I'm trying to subscribe to some bugs and now the bts postgrey seems to have blacklisted me.
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20 [00:11:02] <karlpinc> And of course I can't even send in a bug report. :-/
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41 [00:21:18] <somiaj> EdePopede: unsure if it was brought up, but you can get menus ctrl-right click and ctrl-middle click (the middle one gives you the scroll bar option)
42 [00:21:42] <Sleaker> ,v openjdk-11-jdk
43 [00:21:43] <judd> Package: openjdk-11-jdk on amd64 -- stretch-backports: 11.0.3+1-1~bpo9+1; buster: 11.0.3+1-1; sid: 11.0.3+7-2
44 [00:21:50] <Sleaker> ah it's in backports cool
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46 [00:22:04] <EdePopede> somiaj: the thing i'd like to avoid unluckily is exactly this one: using the middle button.
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48 [00:22:46] <EdePopede> somiaj: not the first time i changed the state of one of the options unwillingly
49 [00:23:07] <somiaj> if this is a setting you want for all future xterms, you can configure this though an Xdefaults or Xresources file
50 [00:23:27] <somiaj> You might be able to change what triggers these menus.
51 [00:25:37] <EdePopede> this just came into my mind. i changed some entries in the past, was only the text iirc. but i was thinking of moving the vt options to the RMB, i change font size by keyboard anyway
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54 [00:26:44] <EdePopede> but then there's also the fullscreen option in the main menu, and this one does have a keyboard action: M-Enter. so i may look into the sources on occasion.
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265 [02:47:09] <anothertorusr> any recommendations where to get support for audio issues ? have alsa-info output, would love to tackle this
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280 [03:00:09] <wabbits> jmcnaught thanks
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283 [03:01:44] <HeXiLeD> why am i getting mariaDB when i only want to install mysql-server ?
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288 [03:02:59] <HeXiLeD> basically I am moving a .db from another operating system (non deb) and everything was with mysql. All i need is the server and then import the .db's
289 [03:03:21] <HeXiLeD> default-mysql-server-core or default-mysql-server ?
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292 [03:05:33] <jmcnaught> HeXiLeD: replaced-url
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294 [03:06:45] <HeXiLeD> i see. advantages of mariaDB?
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296 [03:07:15] <friendofafriend> So, I see we've deprecated /etc/rc.local. That's great.
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298 [03:07:34] <friendofafriend> So I've tried to add back the functionality by this article, and our good friend systemd. replaced-url
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300 [03:09:22] <friendofafriend> At the end, from systemctl status rc-local.service, I get "Process: 689 ExecStart=/etc/rc.local start (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)".
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302 [03:09:57] <friendofafriend> Where would I go to troubleshoot that particular hot Poettering?
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308 [03:15:36] <friendofafriend> I see, there's a type on step four. Gosh, what did /etc/rc.local ever do to deserve that?
309 [03:16:15] <jmcnaught> friendofafriend: you didn't need to create /etc/systemd/system/rc-local.service because it already exists in /lib/systemd/system, it only starts if /etc/rc.local exists and is executable
310 [03:16:28] <friendofafriend> I didn't see it there.
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407 [04:21:06] <karlpinc> HeXiLeD: Basically, MariaDB was forked by the guy who created MySQL and sold it to Oracle. I hear tell it's the default of most distros, at least over MySQL, and is where the FOSS developers are.
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413 [04:23:31] <HeXiLeD> yah, that much i know. I wonder about ram usage
414 [04:24:04] <themill> it's not going to be appreciably different
415 [04:24:06] <karlpinc> HeXiLeD: Can't say. I prefer postgres.
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489 [05:08:53] <victorqueiroz> How well does Debian run heavy games with AMD GPU?
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565 [05:59:36] <victorqueiroz> How well does Debian run heavy games with AMD GPU?
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602 [06:25:44] <friendofafriend> I'd like my USB wireless interface to come up on boot. I read the docs, I came to the attached configs. They don't work. replaced-url
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604 [06:26:57] <friendofafriend> I can kill wpa_supplicant, manually run it as "wpa_supplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -i wlan0" then "dhclient wlan0" and it works. I don't understand why it doesn't at boot. Or where to look for errors.
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630 [06:44:04] <jcb2016> wierd when i reboot debian it has a grub prompt and im stuck. when i boot the computer to boot options i have debian in the boot option under UEFI and it boots up fine. any ideas on why it would do this?
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633 [06:44:48] <jcb2016> and how can i get the uefi debian to boot first?
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637 [06:46:31] <jcb2016> seems like the first boot or the grub prompt is a previous os and its booting first. im gonna go to resuce mode and resintall grub to see if that works
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647 [06:53:57] <xtifr> jcb2016: I had something similar on my laptop recently, and I simply had to go into the uefi bios settings and change the boot order.
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667 [07:02:07] <jcb2016> xtifr, when i boot i press esc then press f9 for boot options. it says uefi ubuntu then it says uefi debian. if i choose debian it boots debiean if i choose ubuntu it boots to a grub prompt how do i erase the first ubuntu to just have debian?
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670 [07:03:16] <victorqueiroz> Apparently RX 480 only works with AMD graphics firmware of stretch-backports!
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672 [07:05:21] <xtifr> jcb2016: should be some way to select the boot order in settings--but getting to settings is different for different machines
673 [07:05:57] <jcb2016> xtifr, ill look
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680 [07:11:37] <jcb2016> ok thanks all
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683 [07:12:35] <xtifr> luck
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705 [07:27:00] <Paganini> Hi. Happy Easter!
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1058 [10:30:58] <Basilic234> Hello, i mâle a mistake i have change m'y keyboard configuration for a latin. Now i can't make @
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1060 [10:31:18] <Basilic234> I need it for login password
1061 [10:31:40] <Basilic234> Altgr+0 not work
1062 [10:31:55] <Basilic234> Alt+064 not work
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1064 [10:32:10] <Basilic234> Help!!
1065 [10:32:27] <ayekat> Basilic234: what do you mean with "for a latin"?
1066 [10:33:25] <ayekat> Basilic234: otherwise I'd use the username field (where you can see what you type) to trial-and-error find out all the keys you need to press for the characters in your password
1067 [10:33:38] <Basilic234> On dpkg-config
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1069 [10:34:00] <Basilic234> I chose latin-9
1070 [10:34:19] <Basilic234> If m'y memory is good
1071 [10:34:21] <zamuro> !flood
1072 [10:34:21] <dpkg> It's considered impolite to paste many lines of text on IRC. Please don't do it. Pasting one line is fine. Pasting two lines you can usually get away with. Pasting three lines will get you insulted. Pasting four or more lines will get you kicked. If you want to paste, ask me about <paste>
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1074 [10:35:08] <zamuro> Anyway... Could you try to make one full sentence and _then_ press enter?
1075 [10:35:24] <ayekat> Basilic234: I think "latin-9" just refers to the character encoding in the TTY, but I may be wrong
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1079 [10:36:17] <ayekat> Basilic234: but still - if you know which keyboard layout you chose, check online for what keys you need to use on that layout - otherwise use the username field to try out yourself
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1081 [10:36:59] <zamuro> That or, in case you're using a GUI, *change the bloody thing on the config*/
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1084 [10:38:05] <Basilic234> Zamuro i use lxfce
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1086 [10:38:59] <zamuro> Congratulations. Now go to the configuration manager and change your keyboard layout. That won't be too difficult.
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1088 [10:39:25] <Basilic234> Not difficultés if i Can login
1089 [10:39:45] <Basilic234> My passord use @
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1093 [10:40:39] <zamuro> Are you on the thing you're trying to log into?
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1097 [10:43:26] <Basilic234> I try do login but i can't type my password
1098 [10:43:49] <Basilic234> Seem compose Key don't work
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1164 [11:44:21] <GNU_xormor> the nvidia-legacy drivers in the debian stable repos give a too low resolution graphical mode. they do not work properly. "nouveau" seems to work and the *.run binary executable says I should use the debian repos if I want the legacy driver - but I did and the resolution was too low. the nouveau drivers work better.
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1168 [11:45:36] <jelly> GNU_xormor, what does nvidia-detect tool say about the version of driver your card should use?
1169 [11:46:08] <jelly> if nouveau works and the system is stable, why not keep using it
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1177 [11:55:24] <Slingsh2> Hello!
1178 [11:55:39] <jelly> yes, hello
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1181 [11:56:36] <Slingsh2> On Debian stretch when trying to manually compile e.g. libpopt (I'm not intending to create debian packages), after I did "export DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=hardening=+all" doing "./configure $(dpkg-buildflags --export=cmdline)" results in "configure: error: unrecognized option: -O2". Manually passing the output of "dpkg-buildflags --export=cmdline" to `./configure` by copy&paste works as expected though.
1182 [11:56:58] <Slingsh2> How can I solve this?
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1186 [11:58:41] <zamuro> Have you verified you've got the C compiler required for that to work?
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1188 [11:59:18] <Slingsh2> I need it for a project utilizing rbm, so manual copy&paste won't do
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1191 [12:00:54] <Slingsh2> rbm stands for "reproducible build manager" btw
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1233 [12:41:36] <GNU_xormor> there is a conflict in the modules concerning nvidia on the debian. do I need to compile my own kernel?
1234 [12:42:28] <GNU_xormor> the graphics work fine. I am bored. I am trying to tool around the configs, and play around. the worst case is that I lose control of the graphics mode of the system (the X Window System).
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1238 [12:43:30] <jelly> ,i rbm
1239 [12:43:31] <judd> No package named 'rbm' was found in stretch/amd64.
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1245 [12:49:44] <Slingsh2> No, rbm is not a debian package. Though the issue is not dependent on rbm. I did the aforementioned steps on the command line.
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1249 [12:52:25] <Slingsh2> That's also why I tried to compile some arbitrarily chosen source code (libpopt). It doesn't only affect libpopt.
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1253 [12:53:30] <Slingsh2> So to reproduce, download libpopt source code, "export DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=hardening=+all" doing "./configure $(dpkg-buildflags --export=cmdline)"
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1255 [12:53:59] <Slingsh2> s/doing/and do/
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1259 [12:59:25] <Slingsh2> If someone can reproduce the issue it would really help to hear back so I know that I didn't make a mistake.
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1262 [13:01:30] <Slingsh2> I use bash as my shell btw, in case it's somehow related thereto.
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1279 [13:10:51] <jelly> Slingsh2, is an autotools ./configure supposed to take compiler build flags like that at all?
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1297 [13:20:53] <Slingsh2> Well, tbh that I don't know. A quick search afaik doesn't indicate that it's wrong to pass compiler flags as an argument to ./configure Furthermore manual copy&paste works as (I) expected
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1306 [13:29:54] <Slingsh2> gnu's autoconf-2.69 online manual, section "Compilers-and-Options", gives one example (" ./configure CC=c99 CFLAGS=-g LIBS=-lposix
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1308 [13:30:25] <Slingsh2> ") that they say works
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1310 [13:31:24] <Slingsh2> s/that they say works/that according to them should should work/
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1359 [14:08:27] <at0m> ,v php
1360 [14:08:28] <judd> Package: php on amd64 -- stretch: 1:7.0+49; buster: 2:7.3+69; sid: 2:7.3+69
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1474 [15:24:44] <roger21> hello, my mariadb server is not starting, any clues on where to start to trooubleshot? replaced-url
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1478 [15:27:42] <petn-randall> roger21: I'd start by looking into /var/log/daemon.log.
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1489 [15:40:12] <roger21> petn-randall, it really doesn't say more replaced-url
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1493 [15:42:29] <petn-randall> roger21: Then I'd check where it logs to, and check there. /var/log/{mysql,mariadb}/ maybe?
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1495 [15:43:48] <roger21> yup it says more there replaced-url
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1503 [15:49:13] <petn-randall> roger21: Is /var/lib/mysql/tc.log zero bytes large?
1504 [15:49:26] <frikinz> Hello everyone. I'm using jessie and noticed jessie-backports are gone from replaced-url
1505 [15:49:37] <roger21> petn-randall, indeed
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1510 [15:50:34] <petn-randall> roger21: Delete it and try restarting.
1511 [15:51:03] <frikinz> oh replaced-url
1512 [15:51:13] <frikinz> jessie/updates will do
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1514 [15:51:42] <roger21> petn-randall, yep it worked (googled something similar) possibly because i did actually filled up my drive space once
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1518 [15:54:22] <petn-randall> That would have been your issue, yeah
1519 [15:54:45] <petn-randall> But then I'd double check that the DB is still okay, it's likely that it got corrupted when the disk ran full.
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1521 [15:56:40] <roger21> petn-randall, yeah, it is mostly empty i'm not worried, thank you still
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1565 [16:31:02] <samsep03> helo
1566 [16:31:05] <samsep03> hello*
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1569 [16:33:35] <samsep03> hello
1570 [16:33:42] <samsep03> how are you?
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1573 [16:34:29] <jmcnaught> Hi samsep03 do you need help with Debian?
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1578 [16:35:38] <A47> samsep03: we are debing fine (saw that?)
1579 [16:35:49] <samsep03> haha
1580 [16:36:00] <samsep03> no thanks jmcnaugh,
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1583 [16:38:14] <samsep03> this is actually my first time trying out irc
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1589 [16:42:47] <Chakka____> Im on BUSTER and I cant get openssh server to install right
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1591 [16:43:02] <Chakka____> It was working for a long time, but something recently messed it up. Any ideas?
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1594 [16:43:52] <Chakka____> Its trying to configure openssh-server 1:7.9p1-10 - it says something about a mismatch of OpenSSL versions
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1603 [16:50:12] <jmcnaught> Chakka____: can you show the full output on replaced-url
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1629 [17:08:23] <OS-45193> hi
1630 [17:08:48] <A47> Os-45193: hi.
1631 [17:09:13] <OS-45193> I m new in this oscp lab
1632 [17:09:21] <A47> so am I.
1633 [17:09:23] <A47> :)
1634 [17:09:29] <OS-45193> do you have a suggestion for me at first
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1639 [17:11:06] <A47> 1st: this group is for asking debian-related operations.
1640 [17:11:17] <A47> *questions
1641 [17:11:42] <OS-45193> how can i find group related with oscp
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1643 [17:13:48] <OS-45193> sorry title is debian
1644 [17:13:56] <OS-45193> I try to connect oscp title
1645 [17:13:58] <OS-45193> thanks
1646 [17:14:10] <BazookaTooth> OS-45193: #offsec
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1649 [17:17:22] <OS-45193> thanks a lot
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1658 [17:25:19] <Chakka____> jmcnaught I cant, I dont have anything but vmware console access and cant copy/paste it
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1660 [17:25:59] <Chakka____> let me think some more about how I could get that info off the box without manyally typing it
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1662 [17:26:21] <karlpinc> Chakka____: Push come to shove, take a picture with your phone and paste it to an image site.
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1667 [17:31:17] <GNU_Pekka> I checked my syslog and it seems my computer was running cron.hourly during the early morning hours of the night, and it went into "hibernate" or "suspend" or some such at 6AM and the power light was blinking. interestingly my modem had the Wi-Fi light on, too, and when I tried to wake the computer up (Debian GNU/Linux stable) with the keyboard and the mouse I failed, but when I pressed the power button the power went off. Why did my computer
1668 [17:31:17] <GNU_Pekka> behave like that? Is it because of the stretch-backports upgrades? I think my computer upgraded itself during the night, perhaps at early morning hours.
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1672 [17:32:40] <GNU_Pekka> have I messed up the system myself or was it because of an unattended upgrade that the computer acted up? or did someone climb through my window, play with my computer and climb back outside? :-D I woke up in the morning and saw the weird behavior of the hardware - the modem and the CPU.
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1718 [18:14:26] <domovoy_> hi
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1722 [18:17:36] <domovoy_> messing with kerberos setup, i had it working; then reinstalled the whole server just to check i have the whole procedure documented right. I can kinit, but ssh won't login anymore ('Ticket expired'), how can that be?
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1724 [18:18:11] <Wulf> domovoy_: ssh client or server?
1725 [18:18:30] <domovoy_> Wulf> client
1726 [18:18:39] <Wulf> domovoy_: what does "klist" output?
1727 [18:19:13] <Wulf> domovoy_: is the clock on client and server correct?
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1732 [18:21:30] <kukushka> hello
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1734 [18:21:56] <domovoy_> Wulf> replaced-url
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1739 [18:22:29] <Wulf> domovoy_: double check if the clocks are out of sync.
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1743 [18:23:52] <Wulf> domovoy_: is there no session ticket, only the tgt?
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1745 [18:24:17] <Wulf> domovoy_: what about "kinit -R"?
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1747 [18:24:57] <domovoy_> Wulf> right, my last ssh login via kerberos was _before_ the reinstallation (server is now different ip, reinstalled from scratch)
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1749 [18:25:45] <Wulf> not what I asked
1750 [18:26:13] <Wulf> usually you get a session ticket when you try to connect to a service
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1753 [18:26:54] <Cyndanera_> I need help with permisitions on linux
1754 [18:27:03] <domovoy_> yes, but klist should show it, right?
1755 [18:27:15] <Wulf> domovoy_: if you've got one, yes. So you didn't.
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1757 [18:27:20] <Wulf> domovoy_: does "kinit -R" work?
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1759 [18:27:38] <Cyndanera_> root@cyndanera-Server:/media/cyndanera/CYN DISK02/home/replaced-url
1760 [18:27:56] <Cyndanera_> I'm new to unix permisions
1761 [18:28:21] <Wulf> Cyndanera_: directories usually have the exec bit too, i.e. 755.
1762 [18:28:55] <Cyndanera_> but this for web server permisions
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1764 [18:29:41] <Cyndanera_> I get this error because of permision issues replaced-url
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1766 [18:30:21] <domovoy_> Wulf> found the problem, i changed KRB5CCNAME a while back in order to use kswitch, the shell i was in was still using the old value ^^
1767 [18:30:22] <Wulf> Cyndanera_: echo hello > "/media/cyndanera/CYN DISK02/home/replaced-url
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1769 [18:30:33] <Wulf> domovoy_: (:
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1771 [18:30:52] <Cyndanera_> I need to change permisions for all directiores and files in public_html
1772 [18:31:09] <Cyndanera_> how do I do that?
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1776 [18:31:38] <Wulf> Cyndanera_: find /path/to/public_html -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
1777 [18:31:44] <Wulf> Cyndanera_: find /path/to/public_html -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
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1781 [18:32:39] <indomitable> can't chmod be used recursively?
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1784 [18:34:05] <Wulf> indomitable: sure. But it might not do what one wants
1785 [18:34:53] <Cyndanera_> It didn't work replaced-url
1786 [18:35:32] <Wulf> Cyndanera_: check the webserver logs and the config. And check the permissions of all parent directories.
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1789 [18:36:58] <Cyndanera_> [Sat Apr 20 10:14:29.291018 2019] [core:error] [pid 3050] (13)Permission denied: [client 10.88.76.108:60426] AH00035: access to / denied (filesystem path '/media/cyndanera/CYN DISK02') because search permissions are missing on a component of the path
1790 [18:37:23] <Cyndanera_> on apache irc they said config was right
1791 [18:37:56] <Wulf> Cyndanera_: yeah, it's one of the parent directories.
1792 [18:38:06] <Wulf> the error message says just that
1793 [18:38:31] <n1ce> indomitable: yes, chmod 755 -R /path
1794 [18:38:41] <Wulf> don't!
1795 [18:39:03] <n1ce> ok, I think I missed something
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1797 [18:39:44] <Cyndanera_> What command do I do use to check all dirs and files permisions in public_html?
1798 [18:39:45] <n1ce> It can be used recursively, sometimes, maybe this is not the case
1799 [18:40:59] <domovoy_> Wulf> hmmm, still can't, but at least now i have a ticket: replaced-url
1800 [18:41:07] <Cyndanera_> @Wulf
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1802 [18:42:19] <domovoy_> maybe i messed around too much, will try again after next reboot ^^
1803 [18:42:28] <tds> Cyndanera_: I mentioned this in #httpd, but if that drive was mounted by udisks2 (which normally uses the /media/username/label scheme, so seems likely), you'll have rather funky permissions with acls on /media/cyndanera
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1805 [18:42:57] <Wulf> Cyndanera_: ls -ld /{media/{cyndanera/{CYN\ DISK02/{home/{replaced-url
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1808 [18:44:23] <indomitable> n1ce, i am skeptical of -e commands :P
1809 [18:44:26] <indomitable> or -exec
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1818 [18:55:40] <Cyndanera_> here is the results
1819 [18:56:55] <Cyndanera_> drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4096 Apr 19 15:31 / drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 19 20:19 /media/ drwxrwxr-x+ 3 root root 4096 Apr 20 11:46 /media/cyndanera/ drwxrwxrwx 1 cyndanera cyndanera 4096 Apr 20 11:36 /media/cyndanera/CYN DISK02/
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1821 [18:57:20] <skyfighter> Guys, good afternoon. Is there an easier way to upgrade to Kernel 5? without compiling? something already pre-installed?
1822 [18:58:13] <Cyndanera_> replaced-url
1823 [18:58:23] <Cyndanera_> Is this right?
1824 [18:58:49] <Cyndanera_> @Wulf
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1839 [19:15:14] <at0m> ,v linux-image-amd64
1840 [19:15:15] <judd> Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 -- jessie: 3.16+63+deb8u2; jessie-security: 3.16+63+deb8u4; stretch: 4.9+80+deb9u6; stretch-security: 4.9+80+deb9u6; stretch-proposed-updates: 4.9+80+deb9u7; stretch-backports: 4.19+104~bpo9+1; buster: 4.19+104; sid: 4.19+104
1841 [19:15:30] <at0m> skyfighter: nothing in the repo's so it seems ^
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1843 [19:15:57] <at0m> Cyndanera_: no need to @mention, this isn't twitter
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1850 [19:17:34] <skyfighter> at0m, I did not see anything in the same repo, I'll have to compile it. :/
1851 [19:17:54] <at0m> skyfighter: seems so
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1854 [19:18:29] <at0m> skyfighter: or keep an eye on mailing lists/ buglist and see why it's not in the repo's
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1856 [19:20:06] <skyfighter> at0m, Good. Maybe an hour does appear in the repo.
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1867 [19:29:47] <Copenhagen_Bram> So this is what my computer is like: I have to run unclutter or my mouse cursor becomes permanently invisible. And sometimes after my screen turns off, it stays blank and shows only a mouse cursor when it comes back on again. I can undo it by suspending my computer and then waking it up again. But I just discovered if I switch to a tty from my display, the tty doesn't show, instead I see a frozen image of my
1868 [19:29:49] <Copenhagen_Bram> display. This can be fixed by suspending my computer and then waking it up again while in a tty, but then only ttys will show and if I switch to my display it shows a frozen image of the tty with a mouse cursor
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1873 [19:30:33] <Copenhagen_Bram> how do I fix this? ;-;
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1884 [19:35:15] <rant> sounds heavily related to graphics so you would probably need to explain your entire graphics subsystem including hw and sw details
1885 [19:35:31] <Copenhagen_Bram> hmm
1886 [19:35:44] <Copenhagen_Bram> where do I start?
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1888 [19:35:54] <rant> gimme a sec
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1891 [19:36:36] <Copenhagen_Bram> According to lspci I ahve an Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Wrestler [Radeon HD 6310]
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1893 [19:37:19] <Copenhagen_Bram> Kernel driver used is radeon
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1895 [19:37:35] <Cyndanera_> okay what do I do now it's still not working replaced-url
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1899 [19:39:46] <Cyndanera_> can someone please help?
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1903 [19:41:39] <Copenhagen_Bram> Cyndanera_: looks like you need support for apache
1904 [19:42:02] <rant> Copenhagen_Bram: you can copy/paste this oneliner into a root terminal
1905 [19:42:12] <rant> (cat /etc/debian_version;uname -a;lspci -nn|grep -i -e 'vga\|video';lsmod;dpkg -l xorg* *nvidia* *fglrx* *radeon*|egrep ^.i|apt policy)|nc termbin.com 9999
1906 [19:42:31] <rant> it will return a url of the information
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1908 [19:42:54] <rant> erm
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1910 [19:43:03] <rant> wait thats wrong :P
1911 [19:43:22] <rant> (cat /etc/debian_version;uname -a;lspci -nn|grep -i -e 'vga\|video';lsmod;dpkg -l xorg* *nvidia* *fglrx* *radeon*|egrep ^.i;apt policy)|nc termbin.com 9999
1912 [19:43:34] <rant> put a pipe where there should've been a semicolon :P
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1914 [19:44:21] <Copenhagen_Bram> ssh is such a lifesaver
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1917 [19:44:54] <rant> yeah well just so you know the warranty doesn't cover saving lives :P
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1921 [19:45:31] <penguin359> hello
1922 [19:45:35] <penguin359> Is there a script or tool for detecting installing packages and matching them to the correct APT repository?
1923 [19:45:37] <whatsupboy> are there any booting softwares like unetbootin available with package manager
1924 [19:45:39] <penguin359> Or finding ones not from a repository?
1925 [19:45:39] <rant> might still want to consider things like a first aid kit, medical insurance, a burglar alarm, etc..
1926 [19:45:43] <Copenhagen_Bram> rant: replaced-url
1927 [19:46:27] <Copenhagen_Bram> rant: what if someone points a gun at me and tells me to complete every bandit wargame from overthewire.org?
1928 [19:46:42] <Copenhagen_Bram> see how ssh can be a lifesaver in some situations?
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1930 [19:47:03] <rant> Copenhagen_Bram: yes well, did you do some kinda manual/minimal install on this system?
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1932 [19:47:56] <Copenhagen_Bram> rant: not really. I used a graphical installer on a livecd
1933 [19:48:21] <Copenhagen_Bram> I didn't enable contrib or nonfree
1934 [19:48:33] <rant> yeah I tend to recommend against that.. the live installers are crap.. but w/e just seemed odd there were not more packages listed
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1937 [19:50:36] <rant> Copenhagen_Bram: if you /are/ using the radeon driver in X, then thats a problem.. cause 1) you have intel graphics, and 2) you have no radeon module loaded
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1939 [19:51:23] <rant> Copenhagen_Bram: can you perhaps produce some output from when this actually happens? like make it screw up then paste your xorg log and dmesg/journalctl
1940 [19:52:14] <rant> Copenhagen_Bram: you do seem to be using stretch though and your card doesnt seem super new so.. nothing really obvious in that first bit
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1945 [19:53:50] <Copenhagen_Bram> Should I be looking at Xorg.0.log or Xorg.1.log?
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1947 [19:54:16] <johnjay> Copenhagen_Bram: you should move those logs to .log.old before reproducing the problem imo
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1950 [19:56:34] <rant> well.. idk.. provided that you restart X after rotating the logs
1951 [19:56:51] <rant> the normal startup of X and detection of hardware and config would be relevant
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1953 [19:57:46] <rant> I was just reading up on the video hardware.. not seeing anything major out there.. its a roughly 10 year old mobile chipset for the core2 architecture
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1955 [19:58:25] <rant> in my experience though intel despite all the raving in the FOSS comunities, is famous for odd quirks
1956 [19:58:47] <Copenhagen_Bram> The solution seems obvious to me: use an intel module instead of radeon
1957 [19:59:06] <Copenhagen_Bram> Do I also need to install some kind of xorg intel plugin?
1958 [19:59:15] <rant> you simply cannot be using radeon
1959 [19:59:21] <rant> idk where you got the idea you were
1960 [19:59:33] <rant> you have no ATI hardware, and no kernel driver loaded
1961 [19:59:48] <rant> X would not even run if you told it to use ATI driver..
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1963 [20:00:10] <Copenhagen_Bram> I didn't tell this thing to use radeon
1964 [20:00:21] <Copenhagen_Bram> It's been like this since I installed it
1965 [20:00:28] <rant> and right now I see no evidence that it is
1966 [20:00:36] <rant> though we've not yet seen your X log
1967 [20:01:04] <rant> it does oddly show only xorg-video-radeon installed
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1970 [20:01:23] <rant> pretty sure the globs I used would've gotten all *video* packages
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1972 [20:01:38] <Copenhagen_Bram> here's the last 30 lines of Xorg.0.log replaced-url
1973 [20:01:55] <Copenhagen_Bram> I switched between display and terminal a few times, and also suspended and woke it up
1974 [20:01:56] <rant> ah no, looks like I didnt include those
1975 [20:02:12] <rant> the last 30 lines wont show the config
1976 [20:02:28] <TurqFlame> Hi everyone! Is there any way how I can run custom resolv.conf settings for each program? I'm running software which is routed via tor and I need to get dns working just for that program.
1977 [20:02:36] <Copenhagen_Bram> oh... I suppose I could restart x
1978 [20:03:43] <rant> Copenhagen_Bram: yes well we need to zoom out considering the inconsistencies in your testimony and that of the system.. see a bigger picture like full lspci -nn output, dmesg or journalctl and xorg log
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1982 [20:04:34] <rant> I was hoping to see something more obvious like frankendebian, hybrid graphics, hand rolled kernel or something.. on the initial look
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2000 [20:16:45] <Copenhagen_Bram> > frankendebian
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2002 [20:17:07] <Copenhagen_Bram> nvm see #debian-offtopic
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2034 [20:45:52] <teclo-> Yeah I got a question, I'd like to switch to runlevel 2, I type: "init 2"
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2036 [20:46:01] <teclo-> but it doesn't seem to switch to runlevel 2
2037 [20:46:13] <teclo-> because the processes with K01 in runlevel 2 have not been killed
2038 [20:46:36] <teclo-> also runlevel returns: 5 3
2039 [20:46:39] <teclo-> that's kinda weird
2040 [20:46:52] <teclo-> maybe am I doing it the wrong way
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2046 [20:52:09] <n_1-c_k> teclo-: in ancient times telinit(1) was the way to do that. But now it says "the concept of runlevels is obsolete".
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2051 [20:57:38] <grobi> hello :) does s.o. know an offline wiki for commandline ?
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2053 [20:58:19] <kanliot> i don't think you know what wiki means
2054 [20:59:01] <teclo-> n_1-c_k: ah thank you.... well then, I'd like to have kdm not start at the default runlevel... how can I do that in the new way "systemd" ?
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2059 [21:01:09] <n_1-c_k> teclo-, 'systemctl something' perhaps. One of the 9,000 systemd man pages probably has it. Good luck...
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2062 [21:02:24] <znull> how could i see the battery level from my headphones? running debian buster/sid
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2064 [21:04:07] <kanliot> znull try looking for hobbiest bluetooth libraries for your headphones
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2069 [21:06:08] <znull> kanliot, on android 9.0 i can see the battery level
2070 [21:06:46] <znull> kanliot, they are cheap headphones, Promate Astro
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2072 [21:06:55] <znull> i bought them today, around 30 usd
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2074 [21:07:03] <kanliot> did you search github?
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2076 [21:07:46] <kanliot> search for bluetooth headphone and something
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2127 [21:39:37] <Copenhagen_Bram> whoah
2128 [21:39:47] <Copenhagen_Bram> now it says my kernel driver is i915
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2132 [21:41:31] <Copenhagen_Bram> oh crap I probably mixed up my debian machine with my ubuntu machine
2133 [21:41:36] <Copenhagen_Bram> this computer uses radeon
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2135 [21:42:16] <Kurogane> Hello, i've a problem with the networking, for some reason when i want to restart the network not working, booting is fine.... replaced-url
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2142 [21:52:16] <Copenhagen_Bram> rant: replaced-url
2143 [21:52:26] <Copenhagen_Bram> also you see how awesome wgetpaste is?
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2148 [21:58:28] <jmcnaught> Kurogane: so networking works okay when you boot? How are you restarting networking?
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2179 [22:19:16] <Kurogane> jmcnaught, /etc/init.d/networking restart
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2186 [22:26:44] <jmcnaught> !restart networking
2187 [22:26:45] <dpkg> From Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" onwards, the use of the networking init script to reload networking configuration («/etc/init.d/networking restart») is discouraged. Instead, perform the actions you really want. Re-apply changes from /etc/network/interfaces: ifdown eth0; ifup eth0. Remove all iptables rules: iptables -F. See also <mdblows>.
2188 [22:27:13] <jmcnaught> Kurogane: ^^ does it work if you do "ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0" for each interface?
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2193 [22:33:57] <Kurogane> yes
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2195 [22:36:41] <jmcnaught> Kurogane: restarting the networking service might work if the interfaces are "auto" instead of "allow-hotplug" but if you want to be sure, use ifup & ifdown for each interface
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2201 [22:38:24] <tds> you probably also don't want to be using alias interfaces these days
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2226 [22:53:39] <rwp> Kurogane, Your paste used "static" but did not configure any of the information needed then. See: replaced-url
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2230 [22:54:45] <Kurogane> tds, why not? i know is legacy, how i suppose to identify the "network"? i use alot IPs and i need to know what IP is for.
2231 [22:56:00] <rwp> Kurogane, After a network restart are there errors in the /var/log/syslog?
2232 [22:56:37] <rwp> Also, For what reason are you restarting? Because of having modified the /etc/network/interfaces file? If so then that can be the problem.
2233 [22:57:30] <rwp> For example if an interface is set and then brought up at boot and all is okay. But then if that interface is changed in the /etc/network/interfaces file and then restarted the *NEW* config will be attempted to be stopped not the old config which was removed.
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2235 [22:57:59] <tds> Kurogane: what do you mean by identify the network? if you've got a single interface it's a single network (unless you're also running vlans over that), you can just put all the addresses directly on eth0 or whatever
2236 [22:58:05] <rwp> Therefore when changing the /etc/network/interfaces file one should down the interface that is being edited first, then edit the interface definition, then bring it up again with the new config.
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2238 [22:58:42] <rwp> +1! Don't use aliases. Simply add additional IP addresses to the interface if needed.
2239 [23:00:08] <Kurogane> tds, that is just a example config, i use as alias eth0.vpn , eth0.home, eth0.whatever this is what i call "identify"
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