• 0[00:00:08] * annadane wonders if i should file a bug but it's probably fixed in unstable
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• 2[00:00:14] <lilith93> annadane: the strange thing is, that now the option is greyed out
• 3[00:00:23] <annadane> yeah, no clue there
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• 6[00:00:39] <lilith93> so if unmount is fine for HDDs it's ok for me
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• 9[00:01:08] <lilith93> never had this problem with sticks or external USB 2.0 devices...only with that external USB 3.0 HDD
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• 42[00:21:57] <sveta> Installer offers to install grub on mbr of sda. This fails. Using gpt. I can enter the device manually but i do not know the paths to raid1 devices.
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• 54[00:27:40] <sveta> Hi
• 55[00:29:36] <annadane> hi sveta, just lurk a bit and someone will get around to your question
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• 58[00:31:33] <digdilem> sventa, check for /dev/md0 md1 etc - i vaguely recall mdadm is the default raid manager now
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• 60[00:32:50] <petemc> cat /proc/mdstat
• 61[00:32:53] <digdilem> if they're hardware raid devices, they'll be in /dev too (assuming the firmware is supported) but i can't guess what the paths would be
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• 64[00:33:51] <digdilem> you could check dmesg to see if there's anything in there that might point at them
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• 66[00:34:13] <digdilem> (using alt+f2 to open another console if yuo're still at installer stage)]
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• 73[00:39:01] <sveta> Digdilem it is /dev/md2 but grub does not pick it up
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• 76[00:41:08] <sveta> I have a usb plugged in. Installing grub on that as /dev/sdc also fails.
• 77[00:41:41] <digdilem> this might help, sveta replaced-url
• 78[00:41:51] <digdilem> and now i must try sleeping. nn
• 79[00:42:34] <sveta> Nn
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• 81[00:43:25] <znoteer> can anyone explain why this file would not be found? replaced-url
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• 83[00:44:07] <SerajewelKS> sveta: you do not install grub to raid devices
• 84[00:44:22] <SerajewelKS> sveta: you should install grub directly to the disk(s) sda/sdb
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• 86[00:44:47] <SerajewelKS> sveta: if this fails, we need to see the error output?
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• 88[00:47:15] <petemc> znoteer: what was the real error message? you have a file which appears to have an asterisk in its name
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• 91[00:51:00] <znoteer> petemc: the real error message was "bash: ./FlyingAntLinux: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type". The asterisk simply means that the file is executable. It appears after the filename because I used the -F switch to ls
• 92[00:51:03] <petemc> scratch that, the asterisk means executable
• 93[00:51:12] <znoteer> :)
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• 95[00:52:33] <soda__hobart> Hi y'all, I'm trying to install Python 3.7 but I'm stuck. I'm using Stretch so I added backports to my sources.list. This is what my sources.list looks like right now. But apt-get update is throwing all these warnings that the repos are configured multiple times. What should I do?
• 96[00:52:34] <SerajewelKS> !localized errors
• 97[00:52:35] <dpkg> To provide command output in English instead of your native language, set your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. "LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install".
• 98[00:52:37] <SerajewelKS> znoteer: ^
• 99[00:52:52] <soda__hobart> sorry, this is the sources.list: replaced-url
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• 101[00:53:58] <petemc> znoteer: what type of file is it?
• 102[00:54:11] <annadane> is python 3.7 even in backports? i don't think so
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• 105[00:54:47] <znoteer> SerajewelKS: Yes, I know that trick, but it gave me the output in French anyway. Maybe if I launch a terminal with LANG=C...
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• 107[00:55:03] <annadane> also it wouldn't be a good idea to install from there anyway even if you could
• 108[00:55:07] <SerajewelKS> znoteer: it might be because ls is a builtin for some shells
• 109[00:55:12] <annadane> because a lot of software in debian is built against python 3.5...
• 110[00:55:16] <znoteer> petemc: elf binary
• 111[00:55:34] <SerajewelKS> znoteer: or yes, you're running a script. so the error comes from the shell, so yes the shell would have to be run with LC_ALL=C
• 112[00:55:49] <SerajewelKS> LC_ALL=C sh -c ./FlyingAntLinux
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• 115[00:57:04] <annadane> soda__hobart, you should find a way to get it in such a way that doesn't interfere with the packaging system, i'm not entirely sure how to do it, i think virtualenv
• 116[00:57:51] <annadane> but someone else can chime in with more specifics
• 117[00:58:21] <znoteer> petemc, SerajewelKS: LANG=C bash -c ./FlyingAntLinux
• 118[00:58:37] <znoteer> bash: ./FlyingAntLinux: No such file or directory
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• 121[01:00:34] <SerajewelKS> znoteer: well that seems pretty self-explanatory to me
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• 124[01:01:09] <petemc> znoteer: file ./FlyingAntLinux && file /bin/bash
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• 127[01:01:26] <SerajewelKS> ^ (with LC_ALL=C)
• 128[01:01:55] <znoteer> please elaborate SerajewelKS, it isn't clear to me
• 129[01:02:18] <soda__hobart> annadane: wouldn't that mean that I have to build it from source, though?
• 130[01:02:31] <annadane> well, build or extract it to /usr/local or something
• 131[01:02:52] <annadane> i wish i could be more detailed but i've never used it and nor am i especially qualified to talk about how to use it with virtualenv
• 132[01:02:56] <znoteer> petemc: I'm not sure why you want me to run file on /bin/bash
• 133[01:03:47] <petemc> try it?
• 134[01:04:00] <petemc> the command i suggested
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• 137[01:04:40] <znoteer> petemc: yes I tried, it just tells me that bash is also an elf binary
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• 140[01:05:01] <petemc> what exaxctly does it say?
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• 142[01:05:49] <SerajewelKS> znoteer: give the full output of the command
• 143[01:06:05] <SerajewelKS> what we're getting at is that one is probably 32-bit and the other is 64-bit
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• 145[01:06:41] <znoteer> ah, yes indeed, that's it... give me a sec for the paste
• 146[01:07:35] <znoteer> FlyingAntLinux: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not stripped
• 147[01:07:45] <znoteer> /bin/bash: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=4be0cc32aba02ec4e0f010047be5ae9dee756960, stripped
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• 150[01:09:22] <znoteer> I thought 32 bit stuff ran on 64 bit hardware??
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• 152[01:10:38] <SerajewelKS> not without supporting 32-bit libraries. you probably never installed them.
• 153[01:11:10] <znoteer> SerajewelKS: do you know what librairies I need to install?
• 154[01:11:11] <SerajewelKS> statically-linked 32-bit should work on 64-bit without much trouble, but this is dynamically-linked.
• 155[01:11:25] <SerajewelKS> znoteer: run ldd against the binary and see what it says
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• 157[01:11:33] <znoteer> ok
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• 163[01:16:41] <znoteer> SerajewelKS: When I run "ldd FlyingAntLinx" I get the error that FlyingAntLinux is not a dynamically linked executable ??!!?!
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• 166[01:18:39] <SerajewelKS> znoteer: that sounds like you're missing the 32-bit libc, which is the bare minimum you'd need to run 32-bit stuff
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• 169[01:19:32] <znoteer> OK, lemme go see what I can find out about that
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• 175[01:21:07] <SerajewelKS> !multiarch
• 176[01:21:07] <dpkg> Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See replaced-url
• 177[01:21:10] <SerajewelKS> znoteer: ^
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• 183[01:26:32] <znoteer> SerajewelKS: ok, thanks for that. Can you narrow down which librairies I need? I'm finding a LOT that have "libc" in the name in aptitude
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• 186[01:27:12] <SerajewelKS> znoteer: libc6:i386 and then try ldd again
• 187[01:27:16] <soda__hobart> uh... oops I think I just upgraded all my packages to Buster
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• 189[01:28:17] <joepublic> I see people who say "I will temporarily add so and so to my sources.list" and I always wonder whether when they learn that's a bad idea if they will tell others it's a bad idea
• 190[01:29:01] <soda__hobart> haha
• 191[01:29:10] <annadane> backports != buster
• 192[01:29:22] <annadane> so i don't know *what* you did and if i were greycat i'd probably yell at you
• 193[01:29:56] <annadane> but no, more seriously, as i said newer versions of python aren't AFAIK in backports
• 194[01:30:04] <annadane> and you wouldn't want to use them even if they were
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• 197[01:31:29] <annadane> because it'd just mess up all the packages built against the default python in stable
• 198[01:31:53] <soda__hobart> oh yeah, that makes sense.
• 199[01:32:19] <annadane> sorry, i guess you missed my earlier replies. i should have done more nick highlighting
• 200[01:32:48] <annadane> so unfortunately, if you upgraded a whole bunch of packages to buster, you probably need to reinstall unless you just want to use testing until it becomes the new stable in july or so next year
• 201[01:32:58] <soda__hobart> I mean I'm not really worried about it, I'm just on like a 6 year-old laptop that's literally halfway broken in half, so I'm a little more "apt" to mess around
• 202[01:33:14] <annadane> either reinstall or upgrade fully to testing
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• 204[01:34:51] <soda__hobart> yeah I think I'll go ahead and upgrade to testing
• 205[01:35:22] <annadane> remember to reboot at the end because kernel changes yadda yadda
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• 208[01:40:14] <znoteer> SerajewelKS, petemc: success after installing libc6-i386. Thanks for the help :)
• 209[01:40:31] <soda__hobart> right on, thanks :)
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• 211[01:40:52] <SerajewelKS> znoteer: np, glad to hear it's working
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• 216[01:42:26] <annadane> note to self always always always nick highlight
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• 218[01:45:35] <ntd> is deb buster gonna get signed grub?
• 219[01:45:51] <annadane> ntd i'd ask in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
• 220[01:45:54] <annadane> they'd have a better idea
• 221[01:46:19] <ntd> i'm looking at the next ubuntu LTS not having the debiab installer and then we're splitsville
• 222[01:46:23] <ntd> right
• 223[01:46:55] <ntd> this isn't deb official? only one # in chan name?
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• 225[01:47:25] <annadane> most of the debian channels are on oftc and technically speaking #debian on oftc is the official one though freenode's has more users
• 226[01:47:47] <annadane> which, yes, is stupid, i'm just the messenger
• 227[01:48:12] <joepublic> more to the point, "#debian" is not the testing support channel here nor there. It's for stable. #debian-next is for testing. as such they would know or care about what is going into testing.
• 228[01:48:37] <annadane> right
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• 230[01:48:54] <annadane> #debian on both networks is for stable/oldstable
• 231[01:49:06] <annadane> #debian-next is for testing/sid and explicitly on the oftc network
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• 304[02:56:40] <graton> How do I download and install a Google font (Space Mono)? I tried installing typecatcher (which worked on Devuan), but it crashes on Debian.
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• 309[02:59:40] <bazhang> replaced-url
• 310[02:59:52] <EdePopede> graton: look at replaced-url
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• 323[03:08:21] <annadane> (fonts can *crash*?)
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• 327[03:09:14] <bazhang> perhaps a crash
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• 375[03:34:53] <svetlana> Hi
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• 389[03:41:50] <RM982> guys, how to modify xorg settings? I used to /etc/X11/xorg.conf but that file doesn't exist in my system
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• 392[03:43:05] <annadane> RM982, for what purpose?
• 393[03:43:29] <RM982> I want to enable vsync
• 394[03:43:33] <annadane> you don't *need*, generally speaking, an xorg.conf
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• 396[03:43:46] <annadane> ah, okay. someone who knows about vsync can answer
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• 398[03:44:18] <svetlana> Grub does not install on raid devices. Do I make a separate partition for it which exists only on one disk?
• 399[03:44:46] <annadane> vsync... what video card do you have?
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• 401[03:49:00] <annadane> RM982, generally, if the reason you want vsync is to avoid tearing, you can look into the compton package
• 402[03:50:15] <svetlana> Hello
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• 405[03:50:49] <svetlana> Using gpt as the disk is over two terabytes.
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• 412[03:54:29] <tomreyn> svetlana: you create a separate tiny bios-boot (if legacy BIOS booting) or less tiny ESP (UEFI booting) partition, then install grub to at least two of your raw disks.
• 413[03:55:11] <tomreyn> effectively what grub will then do is to notice it needs to put (the most) part of itself into this separate partition you created.
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• 471[04:40:03] <annadane> has anyone used live kernel patching? is it reliable at all? difficult to do? worth exploring at all?
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• 476[04:43:27] <svetlana> How do I reset raid partitions? Starting install from startch and want it to forget what I did.
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• 479[04:47:15] <cryptodan_mobile> svetlana: in the controller
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• 481[04:48:08] <svetlana> Where is that?
• 482[04:49:32] <svetlana> I am in the installer.
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• 494[04:57:55] <awal1> why can't I put my tv connected via hdmi at the left of my laptop screen (lvds1)?
• 495[04:58:19] <awal1> if i put tv at left it become the default :(
• 496[04:59:00] <bites> annadane: if you don't have constraints for high availability, don't bother. if you do, then use a commercial offering.
• 497[04:59:23] <bites> svetlana: what kind of raid?
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• 511[05:16:16] <cryptodan_mobile> The controller is usually in the bios
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• 516[05:18:44] <bites> you are just guessing that they use fakeraid?
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• 520[05:21:59] <leibniz> how to run a process in the background
• 521[05:22:03] <leibniz> such as supybot
• 522[05:22:11] <leibniz> do i need to create another screen and run it in it
• 523[05:22:13] <leibniz> who is here
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• 526[05:24:33] <svetlana> leibniz
• 527[05:24:45] <leibniz> hi
• 528[05:24:51] <bites> you can use disown or a terminal multiplexer like screen or tmux.
• 529[05:24:53] <svetlana> you can run two or more processes in one screen
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• 531[05:25:16] <EdePopede> leibniz: you could start it with "&" appended, eventually redirecting STDOUT/ERR, or tmux or screen or similar
• 532[05:25:27] <leibniz> i am using screen
• 533[05:25:33] <leibniz> but i thought there was a cleaner way to do it
• 534[05:26:11] <WoC> leibniz, i.e. nohup ?
• 535[05:26:14] <EdePopede> screen is clean. even if your X or connection dies, it continues (unless it has a GUI)
• 536[05:26:32] <leibniz> ok
• 537[05:26:40] <leibniz> maybe i should bump the ram up a bit
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• 546[05:37:48] <svetlana> this ok? replaced-url
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• 554[05:46:35] <annadane> wow wikimedia for screenshots
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• 558[05:54:15] <CarlFK> leibniz: you should probably look into systemd - and then decide if you want to use it or not
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• 560[05:54:36] <leibniz> i'm trying to configure supybots @google command
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• 562[05:54:38] <leibniz> :(
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• 569[05:57:13] <CarlFK> leibniz: replaced-url
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• 608[06:38:52] <hweaving> I finally got the HP laptop up and running in Windows 10, and updated my BIOS boot priority to put the DVD drive first
• 609[06:39:29] <hweaving> Unfortunately a Debian 9.6.0 amd64 ISO, though it shows up fine in explorer, doesn't appear to be considered bootable
• 610[06:39:39] <hweaving> Any ideas why? I used the Windows 10 right click burn feature on the ISO, nothing fancy
• 611[06:39:54] <hweaving> the laptop just boots Windows as usual
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• 617[06:41:45] <bites> did you disable secure boot?
• 618[06:41:49] <hweaving> nope
• 619[06:41:52] <hweaving> oh dear...
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• 621[06:42:11] <hweaving> I'm guessing Linux is insecure! *scary noises*
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• 625[06:45:06] <annadane> time to throw it away. was fun while it lasted
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• 627[06:46:10] <hweaving> I even had to type in a scary override code number
• 628[06:46:23] <hweaving> ENTER NUCLEAR LAUNCH CODE to enable booting Linux installation DVD
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• 630[06:47:42] <hweaving> Challenge #1: No mouse for graphical install
• 631[06:47:49] <hweaving> time to dig up a USB mouse until I get the touchpad working
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• 639[06:51:48] <hweaving> Thanks for the secure boot tip :)
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• 647[06:56:06] <bites> glad to help.
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• 652[06:58:05] <hweaving> I'm looking at the optional components
• 653[06:58:21] <hweaving> The only ones that look potentially useful are the NTFS module (if I want to occasionally use NTFS USB drives I assume that's required)
• 654[06:58:34] <hweaving> and...parted-udeb? If I want to turn a Windows system into dual boot do I need that now?
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• 657[07:00:05] <bites> what optional components are those? udebs are things only the installer uses.
• 658[07:00:37] <hweaving> "choose-mirror", "load-media", etc. It says they're only of interest to some users.
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• 660[07:01:20] <hweaving> Looks like I get to try a NTFS resize, oh boy :D
• 661[07:01:44] <bites> good luck, i guess. i would do that from inside windows.
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• 663[07:02:19] <hweaving> I suppose you're right :p
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• 691[07:30:00] <hweaving> kernel options are linux-image-amd64 and linux-image-4.9 etc.
• 692[07:30:05] <hweaving> Are these just the same name?
• 693[07:31:00] <hweaving> back in 2014, someone said that if you pick the generic option, you'll automatically get a newer kernel when it becomes available
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• 701[07:44:03] <sveta3> hweaving i think so
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• 703[07:45:56] <rwp> hweaving, Right. The Stretch generic package linux-image-amd64 Depends: linux-image-4.9.0-8-amd64 and pulls in the newest kernel.
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• 735[08:07:28] <hweaving> Installation churns onwards. I think I may have accidentally scratched the Binary-1 DVD which would be a nightmarish end :p
• 736[08:07:54] <rwp> Did you burn the DVD yourself? If so then make another?
• 737[08:07:55] <hweaving> I'm going to try the ultra-light openbox-session + lx-panel or similar approach _m4ch1n3_ recommended here recently
• 738[08:08:33] <hweaving> Unfortunately it turns out my main desktop machine's DVD burner isn't burning anymore -- it acts really weird and gives random errors ("I/O error" with no info in InfraRecorder, "disc is too fast or too slow" in Windows)
• 739[08:08:51] <hweaving> so my crappy i3 laptop I'm installing Debian on is also my DVD-burning machine
• 740[08:08:54] <rwp> Bummer!
• 741[08:08:59] <hweaving> Living dangerously!
• 742[08:09:13] <hweaving> Anyway I'm hoping even an i3 with integrated graphics will be good with openbox and lx-panel
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• 745[08:09:43] <bites> it will be fine.
• 746[08:09:43] <rwp> i3 is good or low end graphics.
• 747[08:10:14] * rwp laughs at my own double-entendre.
• 748[08:11:07] <bites> does the dvd produce errors? dvds have error correction, they can take some scratching.
• 749[08:11:23] <hweaving> No errors yet, fingers crossed
• 750[08:11:51] <hweaving> And yes some scratches are fine, unless it's a Redbox DVD, in which case the movie will always hitch at a dramatic and infuriating moment
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• 789[08:43:43] <bl4s> hi, isc-dhcpd-server. how can i run both v4 and v6 part? i have setup the dhcp6.conf too
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• 809[09:03:30] <hweaving> I struck out, after the Debian install I didn't get a GRUB prompt
• 810[09:03:42] <hweaving> I'll try the removable media EFI override thing this time
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• 816[09:10:28] <hweaving> no good, still goes straight to Windows
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• 819[09:10:51] <hweaving> guess I have to research how to override Windows 10 and whatever weird BIOS setup may still be involved
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• 824[09:14:57] <hweaving> Disabling Windows 10 fast boot, then shutting down and seeing if GRUB shows up. Hibernation was already disabled.
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• 830[09:20:03] <hweaving> GRUB is active! I had to go into BIOS and change the OS manager submenu boot order setting. I didn't realize debian would show up there. I also verified I could boot into Windows, shutdown, power up, and see GRUB again. Thanks everyone!
• 831[09:20:16] <hweaving> For some reason the grub version is showing up as a beta which feels weird for a stable release, but eh :p
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• 888[10:05:55] <hweaving> Merry almost-Christmas
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• 890[10:06:17] <hweaving> if anyone's still awake, I'm experiencing the classic Linux joy of wifi (since the HP spec claims an Intel chip, but inside it's apparently HP)
• 891[10:06:36] <hweaving> Does anyone have a suggestion on the best stable / longterm Linux kernel that's 4.14 or greater, if I'm running stretch?
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• 894[10:07:51] <hweaving> I see 4.14.90 was a longterm kernel, but I don't see a debian package for it
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• 896[10:08:53] <nkuttler> ,kernels
• 897[10:08:54] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.19.0-trunk-686-pae (4.19.5-1~exp1); sid: 4.19.0-1-686-pae (4.19.12-1); buster: 4.18.0-3-686 (4.18.20-2); stretch-backports: 4.18.0-0.bpo.3-686 (4.18.20-2~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-8-686-pae (4.9.130-2); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 4.9.0-0.bpo.8-686-pae (4.9.110-3+deb9u5~deb8u1); wheezy-
• 898[10:08:55] <judd> backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-6-686-pae (3.2.102-1)
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• 900[10:09:18] <rwp> Also replaced-url
• 901[10:09:40] <nkuttler> !tell hweaving about backports
• 902[10:09:58] <nkuttler> dpkg: ping
• 903[10:09:58] <dpkg> Sorry nkuttler, you're not online.
• 904[10:10:00] <hweaving> I saw those, but I wasn't sure whether it was more advisable to go with 4.18 or the 4.20 backport
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• 906[10:10:30] <nkuttler> there is not 4.20 backport?
• 907[10:10:31] <hweaving> if I'm aiming for stability 4.18 sounds appealing, but anything with a 0-0 version scares me :p
• 908[10:10:45] <nkuttler> !backports
• 909[10:10:46] <dpkg> A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. replaced-url
• 910[10:10:48] <rwp> Since you are saying you require 4.14 or later and want a stable kernel then you are left with backports.
• 911[10:10:48] <hweaving> Nevermind, thought I saw one
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• 913[10:11:16] <hweaving> Understood
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• 916[10:13:24] <hweaving> I was stupid and didn't realize at a glance that the linux-image-amd64 backport actually does have patches, and the 0-0 one is merely the dependency. I think that's my cue to sleep.
• 917[10:14:04] <hweaving> Long story short, for RTL8821CE it appears my path is to update the kernel and see if replaced-url
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• 935[10:27:57] <hweaving> rwp: Well, the upgrade to 4.18.20-2 went swimmingly, cheers
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• 960[10:47:09] <tinsmitht> How would I go on to install a Firefox 64 on Debian 9.6? I've seen that "Unstable" has the right version and "Testing" does not. I have already read a short description on the differences between "-t unstable" and "firefox/unstable". I'm unsure how to proceed.
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• 963[10:48:43] <tinsmitht> I /thought/ that internetfacing programs like Firefox would be always up-to-date (personally I don't care weather or not my git or grep lags a year or so behind) ; I've read about this "FrankenDebian" and now I'm somewhat unsure on how to proceed
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• 971[10:55:16] <SerajewelKS> tinsmitht: if you want the latest firefox, download the binaries from mozilla and install them in /opt somewhere
• 972[10:55:31] <SerajewelKS> !stable
• 973[10:55:31] <dpkg> [stable] The status of a Debian release when no packages will be added or version-bumped, and changes will only fix security issues and critical bugs. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is Stretch (9.x); ask me about <releases>. Security bugs are fixed in stable by backporting the fix to the stable version (ask me about <security backports>). replaced-url
• 974[10:55:45] <SerajewelKS> ^ this applies to all packages, including firefox
• 975[10:56:29] <tinsmitht> tbh that's not really cool
• 976[10:56:31] <jelly> if you enable repos for a branch newer than stable it's very easy to mess up the installation
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• 978[10:56:42] <tinsmitht> iirc then I would need to manually reinstall for every new version
• 979[10:57:14] <tinsmitht> is there no way to do this via apt?
• 980[10:57:16] <SerajewelKS> tinsmitht: the mozilla-provided releases have an auto-updater, though i'm not exactly sure how it works on linux as i use the debian packages
• 981[10:57:28] <SerajewelKS> tinsmitht: not a supported way. debian is not a rolling-release distro.
• 982[10:57:57] <jelly> tinsmitht: firefox build from mozilla has its own update functionality, but it requires firefox be able to write to the directory where it's unpacked
• 983[10:58:12] <tinsmitht> sad. I thought maybe I can install the version from "unstable" without creating FrankenDistro?
• 984[10:58:19] <jelly> no, you can't
• 985[10:58:23] <SerajewelKS> not without backporting it
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• 987[10:58:28] <tinsmitht> jelly, ok that's sufficent
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• 989[10:58:43] <tinsmitht> Thanks everyone. I will try that
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• 991[10:59:28] <jelly> mozilla team used to make backport packages for the release branch of firefox, but they seem to have paused about a year back
• 992[10:59:48] <jelly> (that is, debian's team packaging mozilla software)
• 993[11:00:17] <SerajewelKS> probably when XUL addons weren't supported anymore. no point in packaging something for stable that breaks every firefox extention in stable.
• 994[11:00:38] <jelly> firefox that is in stable now also breaks xul.
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• 996[11:00:45] <SerajewelKS> yep
• 997[11:00:56] <jelly> so that particular reason is not relevant since 60esr
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• 999[11:01:07] <SerajewelKS> which was only a few months ago
• 1000[11:01:09] <jelly> !mdn
• 1001[11:01:10] <dpkg> For stable releases, newer versions of Firefox, Icedove and Iceape can be found at replaced-url
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• 1003[11:01:28] <jelly> that's where their backports used to be.
• 1004[11:02:31] <SerajewelKS> i wonder how feasible it would be to have a firefox-package package similar to java-package
• 1005[11:02:43] <SerajewelKS> point the script at a release tarball and get a .deb
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• 1007[11:04:35] <tinsmitht> yeah, firefox is in a fast moving market segment
• 1008[11:05:22] <SerajewelKS> the trick is that debian's definition of stable is "doesn't change" so if you use debian expecting things to be updated as soon as upstream releases an update, you're going to have a bad time
• 1009[11:05:31] <SerajewelKS> there's other distros that would be better if you want newer things
• 1010[11:05:56] <kirk781> Debian Stable has older packages
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• 1012[11:06:08] <kirk781> Some people run Debian Testing which has more up to date packages
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• 1015[11:06:23] <SerajewelKS> yes but testing is still only going to get the newest *ESR* firefox
• 1016[11:06:51] <kirk781> SerajewelKS, so the firefox in both testing and stable is same?
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• 1018[11:07:00] <Sveta> Hi
• 1019[11:07:02] <SerajewelKS> ,v firefox-esr
• 1020[11:07:03] <judd> Package: firefox-esr on amd64 -- jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.1.0esr-1~bpo80+1; wheezy-security: 52.8.0esr-1~deb7u1; jessie: 52.8.1esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 52.8.1esr-1~deb8u1; stretch: 60.3.0esr-1~deb9u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 60.4.0esr-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 60.4.0esr-1~deb9u1; buster: 60.4.0esr-1; sid: 60.4.0esr-1
• 1021[11:07:06] <kirk781> I have used Testing and I guess Firefox was never in Testing
• 1022[11:07:07] <tinsmitht> This username also appears in the logs of the freenode arch linux channels. I made a deliberate switch since I don't want the fast-and-loose-Philosophy of Arch which puts pragmatism before digital rights
• 1023[11:07:23] <SerajewelKS> kirk781: yes, they are the same right now because 60 is the latest ESR
• 1024[11:07:30] <kirk781> Huh
• 1025[11:07:45] * tinsmitht , distrohopper
• 1026[11:08:18] <SerajewelKS> you can only upload to debian unstable what can eventually be released as stable. the only firefox you can release as stable is an ESR, therefore you can't upload any firefox to unstable except an ESR.
• 1027[11:08:26] <kirk781> tinsmitht, how many distros have you hopped?
• 1028[11:08:37] <tinsmitht> not many
• 1029[11:08:46] <tinsmitht> recently I got from Manjaro->Arcvh->Debian
• 1030[11:08:54] <tinsmitht> s/Arcvh/Arch/
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• 1032[11:09:06] <kirk781> Noice, usually people switch from Debian to Arch
• 1033[11:09:21] <tinsmitht> Manjaro is a arch fork
• 1034[11:09:25] <SerajewelKS> i tried slack once
• 1035[11:09:25] <kirk781> I know
• 1036[11:09:26] <tinsmitht> just fyi
• 1037[11:09:33] <kirk781> Slack, the group chat app?
• 1038[11:09:44] <SerajewelKS> to this day i refer to slack as "you better fucking love vi" linux
• 1039[11:09:45] <SerajewelKS> slackware
• 1040[11:09:47] <tinsmitht> but the most home I feld on OpenBSD
• 1041[11:10:03] <tinsmitht> the doc is just incredible good and everything is so easygoing
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• 1043[11:10:27] <kirk781> What is tougher to maintain? Gentoo or Slackware?
• 1044[11:10:28] <tinsmitht> but I guess I just need to look around a bit before setteling with something. Debian seems to be a good ideological fit
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• 1046[11:11:35] <SerajewelKS> i have not used gentoo and i only used slack for a few hours before becoming incredibly annoyed and ditching it
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• 1048[11:11:41] <kirk781> Anybody on DALNET?
• 1049[11:11:57] <tinsmitht> can't you install alternatives editors on slackware? I don't get why it would be vi-only
• 1050[11:11:58] <kirk781> SerajewelKS, legend says true Slackware users don't come out of the basement
• 1051[11:12:13] <SerajewelKS> kirk781: they don't have time to, with all of the config to maintain
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• 1053[11:12:44] <SerajewelKS> tinsmitht: that's not the point, you can use any editor. but you have to spend hours hand-editing config files before even the most basic of shit works.
• 1054[11:12:58] <tinsmitht> SerajewelKS okay?
• 1055[11:13:08] <tinsmitht> SerajewelKS how else do you config a system?
• 1056[11:13:30] <SerajewelKS> for example, i generally don't expect to have to configure my bootloader from scratch by hand
• 1057[11:13:47] <kirk781> This christmas, send Slackware USB's to your loved ones
• 1058[11:13:49] <Sveta> SerajewelKS thanks for your help earlier today here is what I used: replaced-url
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• 1060[11:14:01] <kirk781> Better yet,install Slackware on their PCs without their knowledge
• 1061[11:14:18] <tinsmitht> kirk781 they would just revert from latest backup
• 1062[11:14:27] <SerajewelKS> tinsmitht: i at least expect some sane defaults and a minimum of integration between packages. slackware generally ships with the upstream default configs, which are largely useless with each other.
• 1063[11:14:37] <kirk781> > implying people backup their systems
• 1064[11:15:10] <SerajewelKS> debian generally at least has sane default configurations that you don't have to touch. on slackware i basically had to configure every. service. from. scratch. even the ones that get installed by default.
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• 1066[11:15:22] <tinsmitht> SerajewelKS personally I think delivering functioning software is very good. Having a GUI as a conf-file supplement probably makes it more sexy towards some users. But ultimately it should boil down to flat database configs, namely files
• 1067[11:15:59] <SerajewelKS> tinsmitht: again, that's fine. if the default config is sane. i'm not talking GUI. i'm talking "does service ___ generally work after installing it."
• 1068[11:16:04] <tinsmitht> SerajewelKS lol.
• 1069[11:16:16] <tinsmitht> SerajewelKS yeah that should be the general goal
• 1070[11:16:21] <kirk781> SerajewelKS, how much time did it take to get a base working system?
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• 1072[11:16:25] <SerajewelKS> yeah slack seems to be the opposite of that goal
• 1073[11:16:29] <tinsmitht> sometimes I just want to install some package, use it once and then discard.
• 1074[11:16:47] <SerajewelKS> kirk781: i never did, i stopped after about three hours
• 1075[11:16:58] <kirk781> Does Slackware has repos to install stuff from or everything has to be done from source?
• 1076[11:17:06] <SerajewelKS> it has repos
• 1077[11:17:34] <tinsmitht> with the BSDs on the other hand everything works out of the box. Including my ExpressCard.
• 1078[11:17:52] <SerajewelKS> Sveta: glad you got it working. still don't know why you have three ext4 partitions for the system but whatever works for you.
• 1079[11:17:52] <tinsmitht> something that (weirdly enough) requires config on other *nix systems.
• 1080[11:18:12] <SerajewelKS> Sveta: also hopefully you left some space free in the VG for LV snapshots. they make point-in-time backups painless.
• 1081[11:18:17] <Sveta> SerajewelKS one for swap one for bios and one for everything else and one for /boot
• 1082[11:18:30] <Sveta> SerajewelKS I don't think so I'll look into it
• 1083[11:18:47] <tinsmitht> s/everything works out of the box/everything works after recompiling the kernel from userland and then recompiling the userland from kernelland and then sticking to the other points on the setup guide/
• 1084[11:18:52] <SerajewelKS> Sveta: that's not what i'm seeing, / and /home and /srv are all separate. they don't really need to be separate...
• 1085[11:18:55] <tinsmitht> I'm probably wrong.
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• 1087[11:19:53] <SerajewelKS> there's not much reason to have / and /home and /srv be separate unless you intend to multi-boot different distros (therefore with different / volumes) but sharing /home and /srv
• 1088[11:20:20] <Sveta> SerajewelKS it is easier for me to separate them in case I need a reinstall later
• 1089[11:20:31] <SerajewelKS> if you say so
• 1090[11:21:15] <Sveta> I reinstalled my laptop I simply did not copy /home over to a new hdd, too lazy. Now a bit of a mess exists on an external drive and I do not even know what it is. I do not want this to happen with the server
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• 1092[11:21:36] <SerajewelKS> well it shouldn't, because your server will have regular backups. yes?
• 1093[11:21:52] <kirk781> Slackware doesn't even have dependency resolution
• 1094[11:22:18] <tinsmitht> about my previous question: I have just noticed that the current Firfox ESR is post-quantum so basically I'm good. I have no need for the other fancy stuff. Besides, buster is just around the corner
• 1095[11:22:26] <kirk781> Reminds me of my last distro. Somehow, I ended up in dependency hell. Cue, three hours later, I could barely boot into a DE. I had to reinstall it
• 1096[11:23:10] <SerajewelKS> Sveta: everything will work fine, until you realize that / or /home is too small :)
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• 1099[11:23:38] <jelly> SerajewelKS, kirk781: firefox and firefox-esr are separate sources and packages specifically to enable the possibility of having both in the same release. So sid right now has firefox-esr 60.4.0 and firefox 64.0
• 1100[11:23:45] <SerajewelKS> Sveta: that's another reason to leave some free space in the VG. for example, only allocate half of the free space to /srv. then you can grow any of the LVs later if you made them too small.
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• 1102[11:24:04] <tinsmitht> god damn. dwarf-fortress is not in stable
• 1103[11:24:15] <SerajewelKS> jelly: so what happens when firefox releases to stable?
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• 1105[11:24:29] <SerajewelKS> ,v firefox
• 1106[11:24:30] <judd> Package: firefox on amd64 -- jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.0-1~bpo80+1; sid: 64.0-1
• 1107[11:24:45] <SerajewelKS> oh? it never makes it out of sid?
• 1108[11:24:58] <jelly> it's kept out of stable intentionally, but it might be in testing
• 1109[11:25:16] <SerajewelKS> the fuck is the point of having a package in sid that never releases?
• 1110[11:25:53] <jelly> it moves too fast to be included in stable
• 1111[11:26:03] <SerajewelKS> bingo. so it shouldn't be in sid.
• 1112[11:26:41] <SerajewelKS> we tell people all the time not to use sid for production. but we'll put packages exclusively in sid on the off-chance someone doesn't listen, and runs sid anyway.
• 1113[11:26:43] <jelly> that would prevent backports or potential stable-updates
• 1114[11:27:48] <SerajewelKS> how would that prevent backports? something has to be in sid to be backported? there's no other way to get source packages?
• 1115[11:28:21] <blackflow> I actually prefer that there isn't a linear all-or-nothing relationship between the repos. stuff in sid needn't be obliged to trickle down to stable, and that's good.
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• 1117[11:29:02] <SerajewelKS> sure, but there should be a very good reason to have something in sid that never releases. i don't see a reason for firefox non-esr to be there. but *shrug*
• 1118[11:29:15] <blackflow> then don't install them? :)
• 1119[11:29:16] <jelly> SerajewelKS: pretty much -- someone has to maintain that deb-src so why not the same people that keep firefox-esr etc
• 1120[11:30:03] <SerajewelKS> blackflow: i can't install them anyway because i don't run sid. it just seems strange to be to incentivize people to run sid by maintaining the latest version of firefox there.
• 1121[11:30:09] <SerajewelKS> to me*
• 1122[11:30:15] <jelly> or would you prefer getting source from a hundred untrusted github pages
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• 1124[11:31:10] <blackflow> also, debian sid is not just debian, and maintainers are often sharing work between debian and ubuntu. and ubuntu is apparently packaging it.
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• 1127[11:31:47] <SerajewelKS> i mean, we can get sources from salsa, too
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• 1129[11:32:15] <SerajewelKS> it just strikes me as a bit odd and contradictory
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• 1131[11:33:42] <jelly> it's really not. sid's there to find and fux bugs.
• 1132[11:33:44] <SerajewelKS> "let's build a binary package that we actively encourage people not to use, and will never release" *shrug*
• 1133[11:34:08] <tinsmitht> SerajewelKS I see no problem with that
• 1134[11:34:10] <SerajewelKS> jelly: with the intent of releasing stable
• 1135[11:34:24] <tinsmitht> SerajewelKS there's always that 1 % of people who install them anyway, run into errors and then report them
• 1136[11:34:54] <jelly> SerajewelKS: yes, but noone says the stable set of package has to be exact match to set of packages used to find bugs on
• 1137[11:34:55] <SerajewelKS> tinsmitht: sure. they're reporting bugs against a non-esr package that will never release.
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• 1140[11:35:02] <tinsmitht> remember that "actively encourage" is very weak. It's not a "go do jail when you do this"
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• 1142[11:36:06] <tinsmitht> ∃ u ∈ Users: uses_firefox(u)
• 1143[11:36:28] <jelly> SerajewelKS: to be blunt: fixes that go into firefox 64 are very likely to appear in firefox-esr 68
• 1144[11:36:28] <tinsmitht> thanks, unicode.
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• 1156[11:49:34] <Sveta> SerajewelKS I'm a tad sleepy but I took notes to look into this the next time I resume setup of the server
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• 1501[15:37:30] <cryptodan_mobile> hweaving: might be faster to buy a dongle
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• 1508[15:40:09] <hweaving> It would, but longterm I'd rather have wireless working :p
• 1509[15:40:17] <anzipex> How to stop all services like 'systemctl stop wise-*.service' except wise-usb.service?
• 1510[15:42:49] <cryptodan_mobile> Some wifi have issues one kernel it works the next it no workie
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• 1521[15:49:10] <storrgie> Wondering if anyone else saw a similar error from recent updates of the kernel? replaced-url
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• 1529[15:51:50] <Fox> storrgie: doesn't look like a stable kernel or a stretch backport kernel
• 1530[15:51:59] <Fox> what version of debian are you using ?
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• 1532[15:53:05] <storrgie> sid (forgot I should be asking in #debian-next sorry)
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• 1534[15:53:26] <Fox> no problem :)
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• 1554[16:09:09] <areyouloco> hi debian masters. i have list of packages coma separated i want to sort it out alphabetically. ideas?
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• 1559[16:11:36] <greycat> tr , '\n' < yourlist.txt | sort
• 1560[16:12:11] <hweaving> quick building question
• 1561[16:12:25] <hweaving> I've installed a linux-source package for my kernel, which is a patched version of linux 4.18
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• 1563[16:13:09] <hweaving> do I still need to install a linux-headers package to build kernel modules?
• 1564[16:13:33] <noodlepie> hweaving, yep
• 1565[16:13:54] <hweaving> One source on the internet says if I built the kernel the process should install them by itself
• 1566[16:13:57] <hweaving> but I haven't done that yet
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• 1600[16:35:38] <hweaving> oh maaaaaan
• 1601[16:35:51] <hweaving> this wireless driver generated several warnings and they seem to involve legitimate missing braces around if / else statements
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• 1608[16:39:08] <jelly> that happens with random drivers you find about on github that are not even in the -next tree
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• 1610[16:40:20] <jelly> there may be good reasons why they are not in kernel git yet
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• 1618[16:44:21] <areyouloco> how do i specify default live medium user&pass? I know by default its live:live
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• 1624[16:47:29] <greycat> If you're looking to customize a Debian Live CD, try #debian-live on the OFTC network (irc.debian.org, NOT here).
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• 1628[16:49:48] <hweaving> wireless working :D
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• 1633[16:52:31] <hweaving> and audio for what it's worth
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• 1636[16:53:48] <jelly> grml has passwd=... and encpasswd=... and ssh=... boot params, no idea how much of that is their own and how much comes from debian-live
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• 1644[16:57:17] <areyouloco> greycat: yes I tried but no answer
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• 1653[17:03:18] <jelly> areyouloco: it may be christmas eve and people might be away from their computers
• 1654[17:03:27] <jelly> patience is advised
• 1655[17:03:54] <areyouloco> jelly: thats not an excuse! we need to computer all the time!^^
• 1656[17:04:23] <jelly> are you crazy? :-)
• 1657[17:04:55] <joepublic> My computer computers all the time so I don't have to.
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• 1672[17:18:10] <hweaving> I'm now trying to get Gnome's talons out of me so I can use openbox and lxpanel
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• 1688[17:30:52] <no_gravity> When copying dir A to dir B mounted via sshfs, the symlinks inside dir A get lost. Is there a way to fix that?
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• 1690[17:31:55] <chire> no_gravity: you are using cp?
• 1691[17:32:16] <no_gravity> chire: I used mv.
• 1692[17:32:30] <no_gravity> mv mydir /other/machine/
• 1693[17:32:52] <chire> try cp --preserve=links
• 1694[17:33:19] <no_gravity> Like this? cp -r --preserve=links mydir /other/machine/
• 1695[17:33:38] <chire> if you want use recirsive
• 1696[17:33:42] <chire> use -R
• 1697[17:33:50] <chire> recursive*
• 1698[17:33:57] <no_gravity> Ok, so like this? cp -R --preserve=links mydir /other/machine/
• 1699[17:34:23] <chire> yep
• 1700[17:34:26] <no_gravity> Nice, that worked!
• 1701[17:34:29] <no_gravity> Awesome, thanks!
• 1702[17:34:38] <chire> np :)
• 1703[17:35:22] <no_gravity> Just cp -R also works.
• 1704[17:35:48] <chire> it's not bad to add more parameters :D
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• 1706[17:35:56] <chire> just in case :)
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• 1709[17:37:50] <no_gravity> --preserve-links is the default I guess.
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• 1713[17:39:32] <blackflow> no_gravity: check if using --preserve=links only disables the other (default) attributes, and if you copied mode, ownership and timestamps
• 1714[17:39:57] <blackflow> at any rate, I'd use rsync.
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• 1716[17:40:13] <no_gravity> blackflow: I did not use --preserve-links. Just -R.
• 1717[17:40:55] <blackflow> no_gravity: ah, and that... preserved symlinks?
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• 1719[17:41:00] <no_gravity> blackflow: Yup
• 1720[17:41:06] <blackflow> cool.
• 1721[17:41:53] <no_gravity> cp -r also works.
• 1722[17:42:07] <no_gravity> Ah, it's the same parameter.
• 1723[17:42:36] <no_gravity> Strange that mv does it differently.
• 1724[17:43:04] <blackflow> no_gravity: mv is not copying, it's rename that does copy+delete across fs boundaries
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• 1726[17:43:38] <no_gravity> blackflow: Yes. But obviously it copies differently then cp.
• 1727[17:44:02] <no_gravity> Because it loses symlinks across fs boundaries.
• 1728[17:44:12] <blackflow> I don't see why it should not.
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• 1730[17:45:53] <blackflow> no_gravity: keep in mind that preserving symlinks cannot be a default behaviour accross fs boundaries because, being different filesystems, there's no guarantee that they'll remain valid.
• 1731[17:46:34] <no_gravity> blackflow: valid how?
• 1732[17:46:53] <blackflow> that the file a symlink links to, will be present on the target
• 1733[17:47:31] <greycat> Depends on whether the symlink is relative or absolute. But in any case, that's for the human to worry about.
• 1734[17:47:50] <no_gravity> blackflow: Sure, but copying a text file with the sentence 'In our country we pay with Euro' will also become invalid when copied to a machine in the USA. But I would not want mv or cp to freak out because of that.
• 1735[17:47:56] <blackflow> let's say that you have /a/foo/bar that links to /b/baz . If you copy (Recursively) /a/ to (remote):/a/ then symlinks pointing to something under /b is invalid, unless the remote target also has /b or you copy it later
• 1736[17:48:12] <blackflow> no_gravity: what?
• 1737[17:48:34] <blackflow> also there's no freaking out. by default it dereferences the symlink and copies as a proper file. that ensures consistency.
• 1738[17:48:45] <no_gravity> blackflow: Who does that by default?
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• 1740[17:48:50] <blackflow> you want it to break consistency deliberately. you also get to keep the pieces if the link sources don't exist on target.
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• 1760[17:59:04] <jelly> consider symlinks as just strings, pieces of text, that only get interpreted when they're actually used on the local machine
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• 1767[18:02:31] <no_gravity> jelly: I do. But mv seems to treat them differently.
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• 1771[18:04:19] <jelly> I almost never mv directories with contents
• 1772[18:04:39] <no_gravity> Not even on xmas?
• 1773[18:04:43] <jelly> no idea what it does by default
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• 1775[18:05:05] <blackflow> jelly: even worse, mv across fs boundaries over sshfs :)
• 1776[18:05:21] <jelly> if I want to move a whole bunch of stuff, I rsync and rm the source if copying was successful
• 1777[18:05:32] <blackflow> mv = rename, not copy, so it's pointless to wonder why mv does differently from cp
• 1778[18:05:46] <no_gravity> jelly: cp -r worked just fine.
• 1779[18:05:49] <jelly> blackflow: mv _does_ copy crossing filesystems
• 1780[18:05:58] <blackflow> yes, copy+delete implicitly
• 1781[18:06:17] <blackflow> but you don't have all the copying flags cp does. it's a different tool, needn't be the same as cp
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• 1783[18:06:40] <blackflow> meanwhile I'd always recommend rsync, it's such a versatile tool.
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• 1785[18:06:54] <jelly> no_gravity: I also don't cp -r, rsync is more consistent. Sometimes I begrudgingly cp -a when rsync is not available
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• 1787[18:07:11] <no_gravity> jelly: Why not cp -r?
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• 1789[18:07:29] <jelly> I like timestamps and owners.
• 1790[18:07:36] <greycat> It's far easier to only learn ONE tool, and that one tool is rsync.
• 1791[18:08:02] <no_gravity> My feeling is that rsync is more dangerous and more complex.
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• 1793[18:08:15] <no_gravity> For example with rsync I have to type the whole destination path manually.
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• 1795[18:08:25] <no_gravity> With cp I have tab completion.
• 1796[18:08:45] <no_gravity> Because the other machine is mounted over sshfs and works like a local dir.
• 1797[18:08:50] <blackflow> you can typo even with tab completion :)
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• 1817[18:20:03] <n4dir> no_gravity: in the other channel a user told you how to enable tab-completion for ssh if using rsync.
• 1818[18:21:00] <no_gravity> n4dir: Yes, computers are turing complete. So you can set up everything your want. But with sshfs you get it for free.
• 1819[18:21:29] <n4dir> no_gravity: not trying to convince you. Just reminded you, as i was not sure if you "read" it in the other channel.
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• 1821[18:21:41] <no_gravity> n4dir: Yup, saw it. Thanks.
• 1822[18:21:43] <n4dir> i for one am a big fan of sshfs too.
• 1823[18:21:45] <n4dir> :-)
• 1824[18:22:05] <no_gravity> Yup. Been using it for years in various setups and it has proven rock solid.
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• 1840[18:30:09] <blackflow> "for free", so you have to pay for rsync -e ssh tab completion? :)
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• 1843[18:30:45] <jelly> you don't?
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• 1845[18:31:34] <blackflow> guess one does :)
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• 1847[18:32:21] <n4dir> without extra work was probably his point.
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• 1851[18:34:49] <greycat> there is no extra work; rsync -a mydir /other/machine/
• 1852[18:35:03] <greycat> you can tab-complete /other/machine/ just as well after an rsync as after a cp
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• 1855[18:36:19] <jelly> semantic difference between rsync -a mydir /other/machine/ and rsync -a mydir/ /other/machine/ is both infuriating at first and VERY useful after you get used to it
• 1856[18:37:01] <iosecure> Yeah, I learned that the hard way after filling / because I missed an ending /.
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• 1891[19:00:58] <Amnesia> question, I'm trying to install php + nginx, using fpm, but for some reason the php-fpm package only contrains a changelog & copyright
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• 1893[19:01:16] <Amnesia> am I supposed to enable an extra repository?
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• 1896[19:02:20] <FinalX> you'd install php7.0-fpm for instance
• 1897[19:02:21] <Amnesia> ( replaced-url
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• 1900[19:02:44] <FinalX> starting with PHP 7, you can have multiple versions of PHP installed simultaneously, so the version number is in the package
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• 1902[19:02:52] <jelly> php-fpm will pull in php7.0-fpm on Debian 9
• 1903[19:02:55] <FinalX> I'm assuming that php-fpm might be a meta
• 1904[19:03:01] <FinalX> yeah..
• 1905[19:03:03] <jelly> ,depends php-fpm
• 1906[19:03:04] <judd> Package php-fpm in stretch/amd64 -- depends: php7.0-fpm.
• 1907[19:03:12] <Amnesia> ah *facepalms*
• 1908[19:03:14] <Amnesia> tyvm
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• 2097[21:13:49] <stu88> Hi, is it possible to see and cherry-pick the packages that go into each task at install time in debian stable?
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• 2103[21:18:22] <nkuttler> stu88: not sure what you mean.. apt show task-foo?
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• 2108[21:20:06] <joepublic> stu88, not really. picking a task installs all its packages. to pick and choose, install nothing, then once the system is installed, install those packages you want.
• 2109[21:21:07] <stu88> joepublic:thanks
• 2110[21:21:36] <joepublic> after installation, tasksel --list-tasks will show you what the named tasks are, and tasksel --task-packages nameoftask will tell you what packages that task contains
• 2111[21:21:38] <PaddyF> isnt the task represented as virtual package?
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• 2113[21:22:02] <PaddyF> cause then you could use apt-rdepends maybe
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• 2120[21:24:51] <joepublic> or apt show packagename |grep Depends
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• 2122[21:25:07] <PaddyF> thats not recursive
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• 2178[22:01:35] <TyrfingMjolnir> I have an issue with samba installed from debian 9
• 2179[22:01:45] <TyrfingMjolnir> Files larger than 2GB does not copy
• 2180[22:02:17] <TyrfingMjolnir> For me it does not matter I prefer to use rsync myself, but my kids prefers WYSIWYG
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• 2227[22:31:30] <bindi> uhhuh... I used the guided partitioning for full disk encryption, I assumed it was gonna waste my space by creating a 1GB swap like ubuntu does
• 2228[22:31:46] <bindi> now that I've got it up and running I actually checked free -m: there's a 96GB swap :D
• 2229[22:32:02] <esainane> wow
• 2230[22:32:19] <bindi> this can be fixed because its LVM, right?
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• 2233[22:33:15] <blackflow> I don't know what the installer does, but if it's a lv, then yes.
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• 2235[22:33:22] <joepublic> on some machines that may be too much swap. On a few others, it may not be enough.
• 2236[22:33:36] <bindi> replaced-url
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• 2238[22:33:52] <blackflow> joepublic: 96G of swap is always too much. even on fastest hardware any swapstorm requiring that much memory going in or out is gonna halt the system
• 2239[22:33:54] <TyrfingMjolnir> What in samba has a 2.xGB file size limit?
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• 2241[22:34:22] <blackflow> if one needs more than a few GB to help out with temporary oom situations, is doing it wrong.
• 2242[22:35:45] <joepublic> blackflow, if a machine wants to hibernate from a swapfile and has, say, 128GB RAM (which would be very few machines), then the 96GB is too small regardless of your declaration that it's wrong.
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• 2245[22:36:48] <blackflow> hibernating 128G of RAM would fall under "doing it wrong" imho :)
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• 2247[22:37:09] <blackflow> of course, rare exceptions may exist.
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• 2249[22:37:15] <joepublic> that I can agree with. "X amount is always too much" I can't.
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• 2257[22:40:47] <bindi> so how do I fix this :p
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• 2259[22:41:13] <bindi> whew
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• 2264[22:42:49] <blackflow> bindi: in a nutshell, turn off swap, destroy the swap lv, resize root or whatever other volume you wanted, resize the filesystem on that volume to max available.
• 2265[22:42:57] <bindi> replaced-url
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• 2268[22:43:02] <bindi> was mostly worried which device to use with lvextend
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• 2271[22:43:30] <bindi> also interesting is how in my previous hastebin the disk is sdi but the encrypted part is called sdj5_crypt
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• 2273[22:44:44] <blackflow> the mapped device should be named after the luks partition. it's automatic, unless you changed crypttab
• 2274[22:45:02] <bindi> i havent touched anything after the install
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• 2276[22:45:50] <blackflow> eg. if the drive is sdi, and partition # is 5, then it should be sdi5_crypt. re-check that because if you have mapper device mismatch somewhere, it might fail on boot
• 2277[22:46:18] <blackflow> that's LVM atop of LUKS, right?
• 2278[22:46:24] <bindi> i guess
• 2279[22:46:36] <bindi> guided full disk encryption from the installer as i said
• 2280[22:46:46] <bindi> sdj5_crypt UUID=blahblah none luks in /etc/crypttab
• 2281[22:47:06] <bindi> guess the disk was sdj in the installer
• 2282[22:47:15] <blackflow> bindi: an the UUID, is it of /dev/sdj5 ?
• 2283[22:47:33] <bindi> there is no /dev/sdj5
• 2284[22:47:46] <bindi> replaced-url
• 2285[22:47:50] <blackflow> well that name (first param of crypttab) is arbitrary, as long as it matches where grub thinks root is (root=/dev/mapper/<that name>)
• 2286[22:48:36] <blackflow> is that local sata drive?
• 2287[22:48:48] <blackflow> I mean, not an USB plug-in thingy?
• 2288[22:49:10] <bindi> local yep
• 2289[22:49:27] <blackflow> and btw, since that's LVM, ignore my comment about grub, as grub will use a LV, not crypto mapper
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• 2311[23:03:06] <HeXiLeD> i am trying to install signal desktop app on debian and after following the instructions here: replaced-url
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• 2313[23:04:34] <Kremated_Santa> HeXiLeD, ahve you tried doing an apt update after adding the repository?
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• 2315[23:05:34] <HeXiLeD> of course
• 2316[23:06:29] <Kremated_Santa> HeXiLeD, sorry, i can't open your link, but basically how is the installation guide? do you have to download a .deb or extract a .tar.gz?
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• 2318[23:07:06] <Kremated_Santa> if it is a .deb file (or adding some extra repositories) you should be able to see it with apt after an apt update
• 2319[23:07:22] <lami> signal offers own repo
• 2320[23:07:25] <Kremated_Santa> if it is an extracted .tar.gz no luck then, it is not registered in APT's databsae
• 2321[23:07:29] <Kremated_Santa> mmmm
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• 2324[23:08:23] <joepublic> their instructions boil down to "deb [arch=amd64] replaced-url
• 2325[23:10:03] <lami> important to remember about repo key "curl -s replaced-url
• 2326[23:10:04] <Kremated_Santa> wait, xenial? that is release name of ubuntu 16.04
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• 2329[23:10:39] <HeXiLeD> i did install the app on a debian distro before.
• 2330[23:10:46] <HeXiLeD> just on others i am havinf a hard time
• 2331[23:10:58] <Kremated_Santa> HeXiLeD, try changing the 'xenial' for 'stretch' or just 'debian'
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• 2339[23:12:55] <HeXiLeD> no luck changing to debian or streach
• 2340[23:12:58] <HeXiLeD> no luck changing to debian or strech
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• 2342[23:13:23] <Kremated_Santa> mmm
• 2343[23:13:51] <HeXiLeD> which is weird because i have xenial on another debian distro and got it installed
• 2344[23:14:17] <joepublic> updates.signal.org is returning an error for me
• 2345[23:14:30] <annadane> FWIW signal is available as flatpak
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• 2347[23:16:48] <hypn0> should be zenial shouldn't it > echo "deb [arch=amd64] replaced-url
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• 2349[23:17:13] <hypn0> xenial
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