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7 [00:03:38] <pingfloyd> you must mean systemd
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93 [01:05:41] <ntd> anyone with clout in here mind writing a post on ubuntu needing to get their shit together
94 [01:06:24] <SerajewelKS> bashing other distros is off-topic here
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97 [01:09:18] <epicmetal> Especially not Ubuntu, don't you know that you have Ubuntu support in your GRUB2 scripts
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117 [01:20:49] <HipHop-openbox> hello
118 [01:20:59] <HipHop-openbox> I like this debian parrotOS
119 [01:21:36] <HipHop-openbox> mate 1.20.3
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124 [01:22:24] <SerajewelKS> if you have a question about parrotOS, you should ask them though. this channel is for debian support.
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127 [01:23:17] <HipHop-openbox> Parrot is based on debian. Just showing my love for debian
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129 [01:24:08] <ntd> will debian buster have a signed grub for secure boot?
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141 [01:35:20] <ntd> replaced-url
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145 [01:36:35] <annadane> ntd, your link doesn't exit
146 [01:36:36] <annadane> exist*
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148 [01:37:54] <ntd> replaced-url
149 [01:37:58] <ntd> sure it does
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151 [01:38:23] <annadane> i mean ycombinator loads but the section is just blank
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153 [01:38:37] <annadane> and no it's not my adblocker
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157 [01:38:46] <annadane> i'll try it in elink
158 [01:38:47] <annadane> s
159 [01:39:41] <annadane> yeah i don't really get anything... what is it?
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265 [02:53:38] <junker12321> After doing some firmware updates, my debian jessie server won't boot. The updates ended up restoring the bios settings to defaults. I believe I got them set back as they were, but it's still not able to boot (gets stuck at a blinking cursor). It was configured to boot with a software raid 1 on two disks. I booted to a live disk and am able to see the array using mdadm. What should I look at next?
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272 [02:57:46] <joepublic> junker, not official advice, but the grub 2 rescue disk may be able to boot your system, at which point you could sudo update-grub
273 [02:58:44] <joepublic> If it's really the bios settings, then check achi vs. ide mode, uefi boot vs. legacy boot.
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279 [03:00:52] <j0seph> has anybody here experienced installing debian on a dell xps 13? any problems or heads up info I should know that may or may not be listed here? replaced-url
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302 [03:17:33] <junker12321> joepublic: I've booted it using Super Grub2 Disk, and after enabling raid, it saw the software raid array and allowed me to boot into it. This seems to indicate that the server has the correct BIOS/UEFI and ahci/ide settings?
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352 [03:48:47] <yukip> i tried installing a distro to a usb but it won't boot without grub on the primary hdd, persistent storage on a live usb didn't save; ideas?
353 [03:49:11] <SerajewelKS> which distro?
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355 [03:49:29] <yukip> cbpp, also tried ubuntu 18.10
356 [03:49:38] <yukip> didn't work for either
357 [03:50:22] <SerajewelKS> you would need to ask those distros' channels for support
358 [03:50:30] <yukip> cbpp is debian
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360 [03:50:56] <SerajewelKS> did you get it from debian.org?
361 [03:51:06] <yukip> :.
362 [03:51:08] <yukip> :/
363 [03:51:13] <SerajewelKS> !based on debian
364 [03:51:13] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare replaced-url
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367 [03:52:30] <SerajewelKS> my guess is that if it doesn't boot, then your BIOS either doesn't support booting from USB, or has it turned off
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371 [03:54:05] <joepublic> that futurist link comes up blank for me.
372 [03:55:07] <joepublic> also, crunchbang is not debian, ubuntu is not debian, knoppix is not debian, the complete list of distros which are debian is as follows: debian
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389 [04:03:09] <bob8338> is this channel logged?
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391 [04:04:03] <joepublic> !irclog
392 [04:04:03] <dpkg> methinks irclog is #debian on <freenode> is logged at replaced-url
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394 [04:04:54] <bob8338> thanks
395 [04:05:02] <joepublic> happy reading :)
396 [04:05:15] <bob8338> I was here a couple of days ago asking how to reinstall grub to /dev/sda
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398 [04:05:41] <joepublic> sudo grub-install /dev/sda ?
399 [04:05:46] <bob8338> I got it working, but the guy who helped me said I should dump the start of /dev/sda to a file before and after fixing it, because it shouldn't keep getting "uninstalled"
400 [04:06:10] <joepublic> no, once installed, it should stay put
401 [04:06:21] <bob8338> right. it just happened again - I tried to boot, it told me "no boot media", so I booted using a live USB stick, chrooted to the hard drive, ran "grub-install /dev/sda" and dumped it again
402 [04:06:39] <bob8338> the first 1024*1024 bytes of /dev/sda didn't change at all when I ran grub-install
403 [04:06:46] <bob8338> but the grub-install *did* fix the problem
404 [04:07:20] <joepublic> that's impossible, of course. not saying it didn't happen, just that it's impossible,
405 [04:07:21] <bob8338> fdisk tells me "Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes" and that /dev/sda1 starts at sector 2047
406 [04:07:24] <bob8338> 2048*
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408 [04:07:55] <joepublic> well, yeah, but /dev/sda is the whole device from beginning to end, regardless of where and how large sda1 is.
409 [04:08:03] <bob8338> $ cmp before/dev-sda after/dev-sda
410 [04:08:04] <bob8338> before/dev-sda after/dev-sda differ: byte 1049581, line 4
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412 [04:08:28] <bob8338> right. what I'm saying is that the first difference on /dev/sda is within /dev/sda1, not in the MBR (or whatever that first 1 MB is)
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415 [04:08:53] <joepublic> I understand what you are saying, but it just makes no sense to me either.
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419 [04:09:19] <bob8338> 1 MB is 1048576 bytes, so that first difference is 1049581 - 1048576 = 1005 bytes into /dev/sda1 (which is usually mounted at /boot/efi btw)
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421 [04:09:42] <bob8338> so the grub-install apparently modified something on /boot/efi?
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423 [04:10:02] <bob8338> could be a timestamp or anything though - I don't know how to read filesystems from a hex dump
424 [04:10:10] <joepublic> well, that would make sense, /boot/efi being in that general vein
425 [04:10:53] <bob8338> I took the drive out of my laptop and put it into a USB enclosure earlier. could that have stopped it being bootable?
426 [04:11:00] <bob8338> I didn't even mount /dev/sda1 though - only /dev/sda3
427 [04:12:00] <joepublic> I do not have a suggestion as to how connecting the drive via usb instead of sata(?) would make any difference in regards to a bootloader.
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432 [04:13:36] <bob8338> I have had to reinstall grub on this device 4 times in a month
433 [04:13:42] <bob8338> it's weird. never had to reinstall grub before
434 [04:14:26] <bob8338> in fact the very first time I used it, I installed a fresh debian onto it, rebooted, and it told me "no boot media". I had to repair it before I ever used it
435 [04:14:29] <joepublic> you might leave a small usb stick in there to boot from; no law saying you have to have the bootloader and the os on the same disc
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439 [04:17:48] <bob8338> interesting
440 [04:17:57] <bob8338> how would I do that?
441 [04:18:19] <bob8338> just grub-install /dev/sdb?
442 [04:18:43] <joepublic> and then set bios to boot from that device (which newer bios/uefi's are generally pretty good at)
443 [04:19:12] <joepublic> some rack servers have no hard drive, are connected to sas storage in a rack, and just have the little usb stick to boot from
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446 [04:19:54] <joepublic> I know this is not a solution to grub wandering off, but it can be a workaround
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448 [04:20:42] <bob8338> I made a copy of the only file in the /dev/sda1 filesystem after fixing it last time. it's identical to the current content of that file
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450 [04:23:17] <bob8338> it was also the same before "fixing" it
451 [04:23:19] <bob8338> this is odd
452 [04:23:32] <bob8338> or "impossible", as you say
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483 [04:39:14] <watchcat> sounds like bad media.
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485 [04:39:46] <watchcat> hdd or ssd?
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487 [04:40:41] <watchcat> bad track 0 on hdd's would cause similar problems.
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489 [04:43:03] <rwp> Agreed. If one has to reinstall track 0 because it spontaneously changed then either the device is failed or it completely a software problem that someone has written dd of=/dev/sda count=1 mistakenly.
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504 [04:51:21] <ntd> replaced-url
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509 [04:54:20] <ntd> Article is about the sad state of using linux on touchscreen devices. turns out you can't if you're using ubuntu bionic (released in april). Their kernel just doesn't support a whole device class (iio) and seemingly they can't be bothered fixing this...
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518 [04:57:54] <joepublic> Why not give it a rest? I am sorry ubuntu was not to your liking but at this point you should take your full refund and leave.
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523 [04:58:39] <ntd> give it a comment on HN
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525 [05:00:44] <joepublic> that's a no. Not pouring gasoline on your personal dumpster fire.
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578 [05:35:41] <future28> Hi, I am using testing and have been for many years. Recently, I have been getting random freezes - nothing gets me out of them except hard reset. I have poked around a bit and the logs seem relatively clean. Any ideas?
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580 [05:36:39] <future28> I am using an x1 carbon gen 3 Thinkpad, uname -a gives: 4.19.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.9-1 (2018-12-16) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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584 [05:38:48] <joepublic> The folks in #debian-next over on oftc will probably be more familiar with testing and better able to help you, esp. with such a general query.
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586 [05:39:01] <future28> Thanks joepublic, will give them a try
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609 [06:01:00] <simbalion> im trying to vote on debian art on replaced-url
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612 [06:01:53] <simbalion> Also, the futurePrototype image looks great but the stylized 'D' icon looks like the internet explorer logo turned 90 degrees, is there a way to vote for everything except that icon?
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619 [06:05:46] <simbalion> nvm I contacted the author
620 [06:05:52] <simbalion> still, dunno how to fix the vote issue
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634 [06:17:52] <yukip> welp, i'm back
635 [06:18:17] <yukip> trying to get a usb stick that saves changes to boot
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637 [06:18:49] <yukip> put debian on it but it won't boot up
638 [06:18:56] <simbalion> yukip: if yer trying to install make sure you have boot protection disabled in bios
639 [06:19:21] <simbalion> also you may need to disable/enable uefi depending on your mobo
640 [06:19:26] <yukip> :/
641 [06:19:37] <yukip> would be nice if it worked on my macbook
642 [06:19:41] <simbalion> or "legacy boot"
643 [06:19:53] <yukip> don't think it has those options
644 [06:20:06] <simbalion> but you should be able to boot from any USB stick made in the last 15+ years
645 [06:20:20] <joepublic> that usb stick has debian and not crunchbang on it, of course
646 [06:20:25] <simbalion> your bios might have a hidden advanced feature
647 [06:20:27] <yukip> yes
648 [06:20:36] <simbalion> some bioses have a hidden set of advanced controls
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652 [06:21:31] <yukip> requires a key or something for uefi, i think?
653 [06:21:43] <yukip> idk
654 [06:21:52] <joepublic> I think that's called "secure boot", the key requirement
655 [06:22:07] <simbalion> most modern bioses have some kind of protection to prevent overwriting the existing OS
656 [06:22:13] <simbalion> you have to disable that, first and foremost
657 [06:22:18] <simbalion> to install anything
658 [06:23:01] <yukip> disappointing i can't put debian on a usb and bring it around places (with my changes)
659 [06:23:01] <simbalion> if your machine is work-issued it could be protected by a password
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661 [06:23:10] <simbalion> yukip: you can
662 [06:23:19] <simbalion> you can execute a livecd from USB
663 [06:23:28] <yukip> yah live-usb works
664 [06:23:49] <simbalion> but as I said modern bioses have protections to prevent hackers from using USB sticks to hack machines
665 [06:24:06] <simbalion> and to stop employees from overwriting their work-issued machines
666 [06:24:34] <simbalion> those protections would exist even if you were installing from CD
667 [06:25:08] <simbalion> You should web search for the specific model of machine you have, and see if anyone else has succeeded in installing on it
668 [06:25:20] <yukip> i don't have a problem with a live-cd/usb
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671 [06:25:59] <simbalion> I just showed up so I dunno what you were dealing with but you probably need to disable boot protection as I said twice now
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673 [06:26:49] <agris> I found a bug in Debian's SQL client, have submitted a bug report but that bug report is not going through
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676 [06:27:15] <simbalion> agris try #mariadb
677 [06:27:54] <agris> simbalion, no it's specific the Debian's mariadb-client only, This doesn't effect other operating systems or building from source
678 [06:28:06] <simbalion> they should be able to help
679 [06:28:17] <agris> my bug report isn't showing up in debian/bugs
680 [06:28:24] <agris> *debian.org/bugs
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683 [06:29:51] <agris> if the debian bug tracker isn't working should I instead mail to the Debian MySQL Maintainer mailing list?
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716 [06:58:01] <hweaving> I'm back in the saddle trying to get my XServer working again with the i386 -> amd64 live port
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719 [07:00:30] <hweaving> oh dear, I'm on the "Something has gone wrong" screen
720 [07:00:39] <hweaving> no combination of alt-f1, ctrl-alt-f1 etc. produce the consoles anymore
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722 [07:01:46] <SerajewelKS> agris: it can take up to 15 minutes for the bug report to be processed
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725 [07:04:44] <simbalion> figured out the voting thing, I had to drag and drop selections
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740 [07:22:06] <dgriffi> can someone here define precisely what an SMTP client is? I can't find anything I can point to to say that it's 1) a remote host sending my users email or 2) an instance of one of my users using Thunderbird used to read email at my server.
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743 [07:24:14] <SerajewelKS> dgriffi: an SMTP client is anything that can connect to an SMTP server and carry out an SMTP conversation with it
744 [07:24:45] <SerajewelKS> there's no definition of "SMTP client" because there are definitions for "SMTP" and "client" and anyone who knows what those two terms mean knows what they mean when put together
745 [07:25:15] <SerajewelKS> also, "an instance of one of my users using Thunderbird used to read email at my server" is not an SMTP client. SMTP is used to _send_ mail, not _read_ mail.
746 [07:26:16] <SerajewelKS> so if you are asking if it's option 1 or option 2, the answer is it's option 1
747 [07:26:34] <SerajewelKS> option 2 is not going to use SMTP, it's going to use POP3 or IMAP
748 [07:27:45] <dgriffi> SerajewelKS: for option 2, pop3 and imap are for receiving mail, not sending.
749 [07:28:02] <SerajewelKS> that's literally exactly what i just said
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751 [07:30:54] <dgriffi> so, then for postfix configuration, the smtpd_client_restrictions lines only affect my users sending email, not remote hosts sending my users email?
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753 [07:32:35] <SerajewelKS> no, it affects all users sending mail
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756 [07:33:05] <SerajewelKS> thunderbird uses SMTP to send mail, but you said "Thunderbird used to read email"
757 [07:33:25] <SerajewelKS> if you had said "Thunderbird used to send email" then the answer would have been "both options 1 and 2"
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760 [07:35:53] <watchcat> dgriffi: this breaks it down well: replaced-url
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793 [07:55:40] <PaddyF> does anybody know why the onboard wifi of the laptop is not shown in the network connections menu?
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796 [07:56:34] <PaddyF> oh, i forgot: i use debian 9 and mate as desktop
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798 [07:56:42] <rocketmagnet> morning everyone
799 [07:56:52] <PaddyF> morning rocketmagnet
800 [07:57:04] <nuxil> PaddyF, no drivers?
801 [07:57:24] <PaddyF> nuxil: it works. it reported available networks
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808 [08:01:48] <PaddyF> i mean it works and i want to do something about it
809 [08:01:54] <PaddyF> but i see no device
810 [08:02:11] <PaddyF> could use rfkill, yeah
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823 [08:12:09] <p3rror> Good day
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826 [08:13:38] <PaddyF> good day p3rror
827 [08:13:44] <PaddyF> & happy coffee
828 [08:14:18] <darxmurf> morning folks
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830 [08:15:45] <p3rror> Thank you PaddyF, darxmurf I'm taking my morning coffee as usuel
831 [08:15:57] <p3rror> And I'have to work on my project
832 [08:16:23] <annadane> i want tea but then i'm sure i'd be awake all night
833 [08:16:33] <p3rror> replaced-url
834 [08:17:04] <p3rror> tea morning, never take it
835 [08:17:58] <p3rror> Whenever you found the page interesting, tell me what do you think about it;
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846 [08:28:34] <badboyjer> whats up
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849 [08:29:56] <PaddyF> badboyjer: the sky :P
850 [08:30:04] <badboyjer> yup
851 [08:30:11] <badboyjer> sounsd good
852 [08:30:12] <badboyjer> sounds
853 [08:30:29] <badboyjer> thats kinda lame
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855 [08:31:59] <darxmurf> UniCornS: the SSL cert of your page is not secure
856 [08:32:01] <PaddyF> UniCornS: cool GNU ASCII
857 [08:32:02] <darxmurf> will not visit it
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859 [08:32:30] <PaddyF> as a smartass one some web forum would say: start creating some content
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861 [08:33:11] <UniCornS> I have some trouble there and I dont have time to set new cert
862 [08:33:13] <PaddyF> when i start too we could colaborate in the future??
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864 [08:33:41] <PaddyF> i trusted certbot and let it do the magic
865 [08:33:45] <UniCornS> I create a letencrypt certificat for the main web site, but I dont know how to do for the subdomain
866 [08:33:49] <UniCornS> research.xxx
867 [08:34:13] <UniCornS> certbot is much automated
868 [08:34:18] <PaddyF> yup
869 [08:34:19] <UniCornS> I use letsencrypt
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871 [08:35:03] <PaddyF> ah, that reminds me. maybe it was a mistake to redirect traffic from port 80 to 443
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875 [08:36:37] * hweaving installs hundreds of amd64 packages
876 [08:37:12] <badboyjer> hweaving i do too
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878 [08:38:04] <UniCornS> PaddyF, yes
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891 [08:46:25] <badboyjer> anybody up late?
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896 [08:48:20] <Wulf> define "late"
897 [08:48:28] <badboyjer> its like 2am nea rme
898 [08:48:29] <badboyjer> near me
899 [08:48:30] <badboyjer> hbu?
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901 [08:49:08] <Wulf> badboyjer: you should go to bed.
902 [08:49:21] <towo^work> badboyjer, or stop discussing your timezone
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904 [08:49:58] <badboyjer> nope im staying up alte
905 [08:49:59] <badboyjer> late
906 [08:50:07] <badboyjer> towo^work chill
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1036 [10:03:58] <hweaving> hoo boy ran into my first real problem
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1038 [10:04:06] <hweaving> gir1.2-ibus-1.0 has a weird issue in multiarch setups
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1040 [10:04:23] <hweaving> seems to be known, now looking if there's a way to fix it since I now have a package in a partially broken state that I can't even force-remove or force-purge with dpkg
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1050 [10:08:14] <hweaving> Yep, in the future, random internet traveller, the answers you seek are here: replaced-url
1051 [10:08:15] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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1073 [10:28:34] <PaddyF> usually you would expect people like me know this, but why exactly is multiarch necessary?
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1075 [10:30:24] <epicmetal> probably because multilib was necessary, and debian likes general solutions
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1077 [10:30:49] <PaddyF> okay, that reply was useless. somebody else?
1078 [10:30:53] <epicmetal> lol
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1085 [10:31:59] <PaddyF> how i understand computers you soon have one basic robust system with many containers
1086 [10:32:29] <PaddyF> from that point of view multiarch is not necessary
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1101 [10:42:40] <SpeedyG> I guess this kinda answers the why: replaced-url
1102 [10:42:50] <SpeedyG> having both 32 and 64bit applications on the same system
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1106 [10:43:39] <SpeedyG> probably also a bit from historical purpose... since there were days when 64-bit systems were pretty new, and not all 32-bit software was ported yet to 64-bit arch
1107 [10:43:59] <SpeedyG> but thats just an assumption ;)
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1116 [10:48:18] <jomofcw> Hello ^!
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1118 [10:49:42] <jomofcw> I'm tryong to perform a 'grep -rn ./ -e "details_recomposer([0-9]+,"' but it return me the error "pairing failure on \( or (" ... isn't the right way to call the literal character "(" in a regexp ?
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1122 [10:50:43] <petn-randall> jomofcw: You need to use single quotes, and then use \ to escape the open bracket.
1123 [10:51:09] <petn-randall> jomofcw: Double quotes let's the shell interpolate it first, which turns a \( into a ( when passing it to grep.
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1129 [10:57:13] <jomofcw> petn-randall hello !Arf that was obvious S thanks for your help !
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1132 [10:58:01] <jomofcw> Arf same result using "grep -rn ./ -e 'details_recomposer\([0-9]+,'"... I ùmay be wrong on something else I guess :/.
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1134 [10:59:39] <mbuf> How do I compile the sources at replaced-url
1135 [10:59:57] <mbuf> Or on a Debian system manually.
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1159 [11:10:38] <petn-randall> jomofcw: Show us the exact command + output at replaced-url
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1185 [11:21:47] <CeBe> Hi, I set up a new mailserver on debian 9 (have been using debian 8 before). Now I do not have logs in /var/log/mail.log anymore, any idea where to find these, or what to configure to get them back?
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1221 [11:39:59] <petn-randall> CeBe: Likely you changed your syslog to log it somewhere else. By default it still goes to mail.log.
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1236 [11:45:22] <Fox> petn-randall: or maybe systemd doesn't log anything in /var/log/mail.log by default ?
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1240 [11:46:24] <petn-randall> Fox: No, it does.
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1242 [11:47:41] <jomofcw> petn-randall the debian pastie seems to be offline :/
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1248 [11:49:12] <jomofcw> petn-randall and I give you the exact syntax : "grep -rn ./ -e 'details_recomposer\([0-9]+,'" which give me the error "grep: Pairing failure on \( or (" (translaetd from french "grep: Échec du pairage de ( ou de \(").
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1250 [11:50:07] <petn-randall> jomofcw: replaced-url
1251 [11:50:10] <petn-randall> !localized errors
1252 [11:50:11] <dpkg> To provide command output in English instead of your native language, set your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. "LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install".
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1254 [11:50:47] <Fox> jomofcw: it's "grep: Unmatched ( or \("
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1277 [12:01:19] <jomofcw> Thanks Fox ^^.
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1282 [12:02:57] <jomofcw> petn-randall replaced-url
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1284 [12:05:16] <petn-randall> jomofcw: grep -rn ./ -e 'details_recomposer\\([0-9]+,'
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1289 [12:07:01] <petn-randall> jomofcw: I guess you have to escape it twice.
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1300 [12:12:05] <nirakara> hi guys. i have XFCE running on Debian stretch. i installed the debian kde packages and now xflock4 just gives me a blank screen when activated by key combo or otherwise.
1301 [12:12:25] <nirakara> the K lock daemon works fine as far as i can tell
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1303 [12:12:32] <nirakara> but it doesn't activate when in XFCE
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1309 [12:16:05] <jomofcw> petn-randall thanks =) no more error, but it gimme no result where I'm pretty sure I may have some...
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1313 [12:18:50] <jomofcw> petn-randall this gimme results : "grep -rn ./ -e 'details_recomposer(1,'" so i don't understand why "grep -rn ./ -e 'details_recomposer([0-9]+,'" doesn't gimme any result :/... (nor "grep -rn ./ -e 'details_recomposer\\([0-9]+,'"
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1328 [12:27:38] <JustASlacker> uh
1329 [12:27:49] <JustASlacker> anybody know where the motd is displayed on debian 8?
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1363 [12:45:30] <CeBe> petn-randall: thanks, turned out that rsyslogd is not installed by default anymore, so files where not created. Installing the package fixed it.
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1434 [13:23:53] <blackflow> What's the default pager in debian? google finds me only results for ubuntu, saying it's `less`, but debootstrap'd installations that I've got use `more`.
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1440 [13:26:13] <Fox> blackflow: update-alternatives --display pager
1441 [13:26:28] <Fox> if you didin't change the default pager you should get your answer
1442 [13:26:39] <blackflow> so `more` it is. thanks.
1443 [13:27:08] <Fox> my default debian install says less :)
1444 [13:27:34] <blackflow> so debootstrap'd debian uses more, and installer-installed uses less?
1445 [13:28:16] <Fox> hum, maybe you're right and I changed the default pager without remembering
1446 [13:28:32] <Fox> a fresh new stretch chroot says more, guess it's more then
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1450 [13:29:39] <n4dir> to add to the confusion my debootstrap installation seems to use less too.
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1452 [13:30:32] <n4dir> i probably installed something later which made that happen.
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1454 [13:30:53] <blackflow> splendid. :)
1455 [13:31:26] <n4dir> i guess as soon less gets installed, it is made default (let's add a question mark, here it is: ? ).
1456 [13:31:28] <Fox> I'd say it's more or less more or less :)
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1458 [13:32:45] <blackflow> n4dir: no I had to manually run update-alternatives to change it
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1462 [13:33:09] <blackflow> Fox: and sometimes less is more :)
1463 [13:33:09] <n4dir> well: i sure didn't. So as far it's me: shit knows, no clue.
1464 [13:33:48] <blackflow> well it's not a problem. I want less and I'll just add installing and setting up less in the deployment scripts. Was only wondering about defaults.
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1598 [14:38:25] <BCMM> blackflow: debootstrap installs are very minimal by default
1599 [14:38:31] <BCMM> wouldn't be surprised if less wasn't included
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1605 [14:39:56] <blackflow> BCMM: yeah it's not. more is default it seems. ran a few debootstraps to confirm. but the installer installs less, so there's that.
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1607 [14:40:13] <BCMM> blackflow: looks like the "standard" task installs less
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1612 [14:40:49] <BCMM> blackflow: so i reckon you can get more as your default pager using the installer too, by just not selecting a task
1613 [14:41:04] <blackflow> BCMM: oh tasksel, thanks for pointing that out. 'sright.
1614 [14:41:27] <blackflow> BCMM: I can't use the installer, I need root on ZFS.
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1617 [14:41:39] <blackflow> (and it's deployed remotely over ssh)
1618 [14:41:40] <BCMM> yeah, that's the first thing you gotta do after debootstrap if you want it to feel like a "normal" system
1619 [14:41:56] <BCMM> otherwise you get a really quite minimal system (which is useful for a bunch of things to be fair)
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1621 [14:42:21] <BCMM> more is definitely the more standard tool. it's in util-linux whereas less is a separate package
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1626 [14:43:34] <BCMM> i'm reasonably sure more is POSIX
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1779 [15:51:02] <bob8338> identify elbowhead
1780 [15:51:06] <bob8338> lol
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1782 [15:51:13] <bob8338> smart, bob
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1786 [15:52:21] <petn-randall> bob8338: You might want to change that password.
1787 [15:52:35] <bob8338> too late - someone just stole the account
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1789 [15:52:56] <petn-randall> bob8338: Also, never type IRC commands into a window with a channel in it.
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1795 [15:54:17] <bob8338> I didn't. I typed it into the nickserv window, then hit 'up' and 'return' in here in an attempt to send what I had previously tried to send here before identifying with nickserv
1796 [15:54:28] <bob8338> but it appears that irssi's history is global, not per window
1797 [15:54:41] <blackflow> bob8338: SASL ftw
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1799 [15:54:54] <blackflow> two lines in .irssi/config
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1801 [15:55:01] <bob8338> thanks
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1804 [15:55:25] <bob8338> I have 429 lines in mine. is that the problem? which 427 should I delete?
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1811 [15:58:06] <blackflow> bob8338: uhm... SASL takes two lines to set up in irssi config. no excuse not to use it, I mean :)
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1814 [15:58:49] <blackflow> och, I lied! three lines :) sasl_mechanism, sasl_username and sasl_password, you don't evenneed fancy schmancy keys
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1818 [15:59:22] <bob8338> sasl_mechanism = "PLAIN";
1819 [15:59:22] <bob8338> sasl_username = "bob8338";
1820 [15:59:23] <bob8338> sasl_password = "elbowhead2";
1821 [15:59:33] <bob8338> so that should be secure now, right?
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1824 [16:00:04] <towo^work> bonow, that the whole world know it, yes, it's secure
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1826 [16:00:41] <bob8338> oh yeah, duh. I'll change the 2 to a 3
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1830 [16:00:59] <blackflow> bob8338: I see sasl_password = "**********"; so I'm assuming that's your password underneath
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1832 [16:01:27] <bob8338> blackflow: I saw sasl_password = "hunter12"; so I'm assuming it's showing me your password?
1833 [16:01:27] <blackflow> hope it's not hunter2
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1837 [16:01:58] <blackflow> I use keys :)
1838 [16:02:09] <bob8338> me too. how else would I type?
1839 [16:02:22] <blackflow> voice recognition, duh! wake up, it's 2018.
1840 [16:02:32] <bob8338> already? wow I overslept
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1842 [16:03:52] <bob8338> so I was trying to find logs of this channel. someone ran "!irclogs" on the bot and got "< dpkg> methinks irclog is #debian on <freenode> is logged at replaced-url
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1844 [16:04:22] <nemo> bob8338: heh... if you're checking to see if your password is in clear on entire web, yes, it is. change it everywhere
1845 [16:04:59] <nemo> blackflow: voice recognition sucks at code syntax ☺ Although I guess that's just a question of properly training the NN? ☺
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1847 [16:05:46] <blackflow> bob8338: replaced-url
1848 [16:05:55] <nemo> blackflow: you know, my SO works at news transcribing and they experimented with Dragon TTS - it was a little faster than the typists, but they lost a ton of time fixing subtle, hard to find, grammar errors where the TTS would put in the wrong word.
1849 [16:06:11] <blackflow> it can only get better.
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1853 [16:07:09] <nemo> blackflow: yeah. but until it can think like a human it'll still mix up homophones or confuse names with other words, and once it does think like a human they won't need the transcribers ☺
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1855 [16:07:37] <blackflow> I hear these things can also drive cars! spooky ;)
1856 [16:07:44] <nemo> badly 😉
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1859 [16:08:11] <nemo> same incomplete knowledge of world problem there though
1860 [16:08:11] <bob8338> why do they need transcribers anyway? isn't the news composed electronically before being read? the news anchor isn't making it up...
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1862 [16:08:22] <nemo> bob8338: this is for transcribing congress mostly
1863 [16:08:33] <nemo> bob8338: the actual news feeds are indeed precaptioned for the talking heads
1864 [16:08:50] <nemo> bob8338: congress/talk shows/presidential news conferences that kinda stuff is still live
1865 [16:08:54] <bob8338> makes sense
1866 [16:09:56] <nemo> bob8338: although, even for the precomposed stuff they still use the transcribers as editors - because when you read like Reuters, it isn't some reporter generating that piece, it is usually her editing, reporter just copies and pastes it in and adds a blurb paragraph ☺
1867 [16:10:25] <nemo> that way they can get editors that they pay less. aaaanyway way OT at this point
1868 [16:10:37] <bob8338> so about 4 times in the last month my laptop has failed to boot, with a "no boot media found" error. I reinstall grub and it's OK again. it happened yesterday. I took a copy of the MBR and all of /dev/sda1 (ie. /boot/efi) before and after reinstalling grub
1869 [16:10:51] <nemo> bob8338: windows dual boot?
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1872 [16:11:28] <bob8338> the reinstallation didn't change anything on the first 2048 sectors of the disk, did change some bytes on /dev/sda1, but when I mount the sda1 copies using -o loop and compare the files they're identical other than timestamps
1873 [16:11:32] <bob8338> single boot, no windows
1874 [16:11:56] <bob8338> BUT the reinstallation did fix the problem, and now it's booting again...
1875 [16:12:09] <bob8338> seems weird to me - what did it change?
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1879 [16:12:38] <nemo> bob8338: could it be it didn't change anything at all and your media is simply starting to fail?
1880 [16:12:43] <nemo> bob8338: have you checked SMART lately?
1881 [16:12:57] <nemo> or maybe there's a race at boot time that sometimes fails
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1883 [16:13:07] <bob8338> it's a one month old ssd. I'll check SMART though
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1885 [16:13:11] <nemo> like going to boot menu first would avoid it
1886 [16:13:34] <nemo> replaced-url
1887 [16:13:44] <nemo> my spinning rust often had much easier to diagnose conditions ☹
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1890 [16:14:26] <blackflow> note that lack of SMART indications does not mean the drive is healthy.
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1897 [16:18:05] <bob8338> I'm seeing a lot of "SMART Usage Attribute: 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel changed from 71 to 73"
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1899 [16:18:09] <bob8338> but nothing else
1900 [16:18:48] <bob8338> next time it happens I'll try going through the BIOS' boot menu
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1907 [16:20:28] <bob8338> I have an unrelated question - I installed debian on an older laptop yesterday and noticed it only had 6 GB of RAM available. so I switched out the 2+4 GB @ 1333 MHz cards for 8+8 GB cards @ 1600 MHz. after that the laptop wouldn't power on. I switched back to the old RAM and it still won't power on. what did I do?
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1909 [16:20:54] <bob8338> the motherboard spec says it only goes up to 1333 MHz for RAM, but I thought the faster RAM would just run slower
1910 [16:20:57] <bob8338> not kill it...
1911 [16:21:11] <nemo> lol
1912 [16:21:18] <blackflow> now ur dun goofd
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1914 [16:21:39] <nemo> sorry. that does suck. but what the heck man
1915 [16:21:46] <nemo> why would you doooo that
1916 [16:22:12] <nemo> bob8338: admittedly killing is a bit odd - wonder if something got tripped that is resettable
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1918 [16:22:19] <nemo> still. crazy thing to try in the first place
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1923 [16:24:22] <petn-randall> !ot
1924 [16:24:23] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
1925 [16:24:25] <bob8338> the 16 GB of RAM still works btw.
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1927 [16:24:39] <bob8338> I was thinking that if anything got dead it would be the RAM, not the motherboard
1928 [16:24:58] <petn-randall> I'm guessing it wasn't cleanly plugged in when switching back, and that fried the old RAM. But a bit offtopic for this channel.
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1931 [16:26:06] <bob8338> hmmm. so my "I installed debian on an older laptop yesterday and noticed ..." preamble didn't get past you petn-randall?
1932 [16:26:16] <bob8338> that was my attempt to make it on-topic :)
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1935 [16:27:10] <bob8338> ... "so I'm planning a vacation using my debian laptop. where's nice this time of year?"
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1937 [16:27:45] <petn-randall> bob8338: ##hardware is a good point to discuss a fried laptop.
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1945 [16:30:16] <bob8338> thanks
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1964 [16:37:17] <darxmurf> debian installer complaining there is no swap partition when you have 384Gb of RAM on the machine :D
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1980 [16:44:12] <Mchammerdad> Where is everyone hosting their cloud VPS debian installs, is AWS still the best price/value?
1981 [16:44:16] <joepublic> darxmurf, sounds like a great bug to file against debian-installer
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1983 [16:45:06] <joepublic> Mchammerdad, mine are at places like virmach that I found on lowendbox.com. Only for people who want extra adventure/problems in their lives.
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1985 [16:46:34] <darxmurf> joepublic: well, why ?
1986 [16:46:55] <darxmurf> it just said that it could be good to have a swap partition but you can continue then without it
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1988 [16:47:24] <joepublic> darxmurf, in the interest of progress and improvement. with low ram it should recommend a swap partition, but above a certain amount of ram a swap partition is just added complexity without likely benefit
1989 [16:47:25] <Fox> darxmurf: it doesn't complain then, it just warns you :)
1990 [16:47:40] <darxmurf> well, yep
1991 [16:47:46] <joepublic> Fox, it throws up an extra screen after partitioning
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1994 [16:48:37] <joepublic> My highest-RAM machine is 32GB which is not nearly server-class
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2007 [16:50:43] <darxmurf> other topic, then changing /etc/netgroup I never remember if there is a service to reload
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2010 [16:54:20] <gordonfish> Does anyone happen to know what the correct way to chain boot (in Grub 2) to /iso/debian-9.6.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso (on a usb stick) ?
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2017 [16:58:59] <knstn> OK, after 4 years on fedora and gnome, i decided to switch to debian and try out KDE. So how is debian on kde? Any issues?
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2020 [17:00:55] <Bodiro> knstn: Seems fine. Will be mich better with Debian 10 and Plasma 5.14.
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2028 [17:02:29] <knstn> :Bodiro Good, i' m getting my new ssd in a couple of days, and i'm going with a fresh install
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2043 [17:07:04] <hweaving> rwp: success :)
2044 [17:07:43] <hweaving> I followed roughly the same pattern as some of the existing crossgrade guides people have made, though I probably took too much time going through packages bit by bit instead of attempting to automate the entire process
2045 [17:08:00] <hweaving> I even got VirtualBox guest additions rebuilt for the amd64 kernel and didn't hose my boot loader in the whole process
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2048 [17:09:14] <hweaving> There are still some bootup failure messages that flash briefly before the system starts, so finding how to retrieve the boot log is my next task
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2050 [17:09:39] <jhutchins_wk> knstn: kde is in such developmental disarray that RedHat has dropped it.
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2052 [17:10:59] <jelly> I never knew redhat shipped it.
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2056 [17:13:21] <gordonfish> "<Bodiro> knstn: Seems fine. Will be mich better with Debian 10 and Plasma 5.14." ; Does not KDE Plasma already run on Debian?
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2059 [17:14:29] <knstn> :jhutchins_wk i heard the news, but still ....looks so fine compared to gnone
2060 [17:14:48] <annadane> it does but it's on 5.8 in stretch
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2066 [17:16:14] <spidget> every time i've tried kde i very quickly feel confused andoverwhelmed... then i sneak back to gnome or xfce. are there any decent introductions to all the concepts in it?
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2070 [17:19:41] <jhutchins_wk> spidget: That's part of the problmem, there's no organization. They're so focused on adding features and no attention to functionality.
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2074 [17:20:05] <jhutchins_wk> Jiggly windows!!! 3D!!!
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2077 [17:20:18] <gordonfish> annadane: Ah. I tried out Plamsa recently in a test usb ubuntu install where I wanted to test out different DEs. I like how Plasma is a nice blend of old school taskbar/startmenu with soem modern stuff.
2078 [17:20:43] <gordonfish> If there are other DEs that do a good job of this, and run well on Debian, I'm very interested to hear about it.
2079 [17:20:48] <annadane> meh. i've found xfce works fine for me and i stay away from plasma these days
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2081 [17:20:55] <annadane> i'm sure it's fine though
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2085 [17:21:13] <blackflow> annadane: the power of simplicity :)
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2087 [17:21:22] <jhutchins_wk> Yeah, xfce gets the job done and stays out of the way. Doesn't have 3 TB of background tasks running.
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2092 [17:23:23] <jelly> spidget: I basically use kde with only the features that exist in xfce as well, ignoring "Activities" completely
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2097 [17:24:38] <gordonfish> jhutchins_wk: One of the machine I ran my test ubuntu/kde plasma usb on was an old ~2008 dell vostro 1500 laptop (dual core duo 2.0 gz, 5 GB ram), and it seemed rather light
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2099 [17:24:49] <spidget> ah, cool. i think i see it like emacs. i'm never going to use it in anger, but it'd be nice to at least understand it
2100 [17:25:24] <knstn> That was my plan also. Install Plasma, strip off everything, and go minimal. But Plasma comes on next release, and... alas, i'm staying with gnome on debian then.
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2103 [17:25:54] <gordonfish> spidget: Never take the emacs name in vain?
2104 [17:26:09] <blackflow> knstn: next release?
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2106 [17:26:34] <gordonfish> knstn: Why wouldn't they also release updates for 9.x ?
2107 [17:26:57] <jhutchins_wk> knstn: Plasma has been around since the first kde4. It's just a name, nothing new technologically.
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2110 [17:27:28] <knstn> debian 10 was mentioned for plasma 5.14 earlier. excuse my ignorance. not familiar with kde and debial release cycle yet
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2113 [17:27:54] <joepublic> plasma is a desktop environment. it used to be called the K desktop environment, abbreviated KDE, but now KDE doesn't stand for anything, and the desktop is called "not kde."
2114 [17:28:04] <gordonfish> I took that as meaning debian 10 would come with it, but I'd assume that debian 9 would be able to run it too
2115 [17:28:05] <blackflow> knstn: 5.8 is in Stretch
2116 [17:28:06] <spidget> gordonfish: i am an emacs atheist
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2120 [17:28:39] <annadane> debian 10 will come with a *newer version* of it
2121 [17:28:53] <annadane> and no, i don't know what 5.14 fixed that 5.8 had problems with
2122 [17:28:59] <gordonfish> I get that, but wouldn't it also get released for debian 9?
2123 [17:29:04] <hweaving> Answering my own question, journalctl gives me the boot information
2124 [17:29:08] <jhutchins_wk> I really liked kde 3.5 and the integration it was reaching for, but since 4 it seems like gentoo - great if you want to spend all your time tweaking display effects, lousy if you want to get actual work done.
2125 [17:29:12] <annadane> no, because debian stable software with exceptions doesn't change
2126 [17:29:25] <joepublic> debian stable doesn't update to a "newer version" but rather keeps the "known stable version"
2127 [17:29:25] <hweaving> we should all move back to fvwm95
2128 [17:29:28] <jelly> gordonfish: debian releases, in general, do not get newer versions of software during their lifetime
2129 [17:29:54] <jelly> hweaving: iytm fvwm 1.24r
2130 [17:29:55] <gordonfish> hmm... I see
2131 [17:29:55] <hweaving> so nice and clean replaced-url
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2135 [17:30:05] <joepublic> I used to use fvwm85
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2137 [17:30:19] <joepublic> s/85/95
2138 [17:30:41] <blackflow> sure it's a typo? :))
2139 [17:30:45] <gordonfish> Is there a Fvwm DE for modern linux still?
2140 [17:31:06] <joepublic> in 85 I was using unix, not linux, cli only, no "de"
2141 [17:31:23] <greycat> fvwm is a window manager, not a DE. Plenty of us use fvwm.
2142 [17:31:28] <hweaving> "fvwm" is still a package in Debian 8
2143 [17:31:33] <greycat> ,v fvwm
2144 [17:31:34] <judd> Package: fvwm on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:2.5.30.ds-1.1; jessie: 1:2.6.5.ds-3; stretch: 1:2.6.7-3; buster: 1:2.6.8-1; sid: 1:2.6.8-1
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2146 [17:32:03] <annadane> fvwm defaults to fvwm2 in stretch but as far as i know you can still install fvwm 95 which is packaged as fvwm1?
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2149 [17:32:41] <gordonfish> Oh cool that it still exists
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2153 [17:33:17] <annadane> anyway. the choice is there, you have a gigantic variety of desktop thingies to choose from
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2156 [17:33:34] <greycat> fvwm1 is just the ancient version of FVWM, not fvwm95
2157 [17:33:39] <annadane> my mistake
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2160 [17:34:13] <gordonfish> The '95' version looks like fvwm with a win9x/2000 skin
2161 [17:34:22] <gordonfish> fvmw1*
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2163 [17:34:31] <greycat> Yeah, I don't think fvwm95 is still a thing.
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2168 [17:35:38] <__m4ch1n3__> openbox-session is a nice super leightweight DE replacement
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2173 [17:36:32] <hweaving> next you'll be telling me lynx isn't still a thing ;_;
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2175 [17:36:47] <annadane> yes but the thing is people should discover these things on their own unless they ask for recommendations
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2177 [17:37:00] <greycat> lynx still exists, fvwm still exists
2178 [17:37:15] <annadane> it's perfectly legitimate to use kde plasma, i personally just don't because it doesn't fit my use case
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2180 [17:37:20] <__m4ch1n3__> universe still exists
2181 [17:37:27] <hweaving> __m4ch1n3__: thanks I'll have to look into openbox-session
2182 [17:37:35] <hweaving> I just got a super dinky HP laptop with embedded Intel
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2186 [17:37:45] <hweaving> so I'll want as lightweight a desktop as possible
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2188 [17:37:55] <annadane> even kde is relatively light as far as i know, it's not this behemoth
2189 [17:38:03] <annadane> death for nouveau users, though
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2194 [17:39:29] <__m4ch1n3__> its perfect for that, you will only need a additional panel like fbpanel or lx-panel
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2196 [17:39:47] <joepublic> dfm?
2197 [17:39:53] <annadane> wiki.debian.org/DesktopEnvironment is a decent initial reference... to a degree just about all of them can be customized so it's really just about what specific features do you want
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2201 [17:40:22] <annadane> see also reddit.com/r/unixporn if you want to steal somebody else's configuration
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2203 [17:41:21] <hweaving> __m4ch1n3__: thanks again
2204 [17:41:25] <__m4ch1n3__> tried lot leightweight wm's out, fluxbox, blackbox have a panel on board but i dont rly like it
2205 [17:41:33] <annadane> just know what you're getting into; you can go into kde plasma knowing nothing about how it works and set yourself up; you can't do that with say dwm
2206 [17:41:41] <hweaving> bah, guess it's time to write my own OS
2207 [17:41:44] <hweaving> that's how these things go
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2211 [17:43:15] <blackflow> hweaving: with blackjack and hookers! in fact, forget the OS!
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2213 [17:43:36] <joepublic> Who needs blackjack anyway, right
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2221 [17:45:29] <jhutchins_wk> gopher!
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2224 [17:45:58] <hweaving> :D
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2226 [17:46:55] <annadane> also note the difference between packages; you can read package descriptions with apt show <package name>. for example, say you want to use gnome. if you install task-gnome-desktop, which is what debian installs in the installer if you select it, you'll get all the games and stuff you may not want. on the other hand, gnome-core leaves you with a much more basic system
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2228 [17:47:07] <annadane> full desktop environments are just glorified window managers + features
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2240 [17:53:13] <hweaving> For when I set up the low-powered laptop, is there any reason NOT to go with 9.6.0 (stretch stable)?
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2242 [17:55:00] <__m4ch1n3__> hweaving, if its an laptop get the unofficial iso with firmware and all hw will run out of the box after install
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2245 [17:55:42] <hweaving> I'd rather start with official and then I can look at firmware licenses on case by case
2246 [17:55:46] <greycat> If stable (with or without nonfree firmware) supports your laptop, that's a good choice.
2247 [17:55:47] <hweaving> if there are license issues
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2253 [17:56:52] <__m4ch1n3__> replaced-url
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2258 [17:58:57] <__m4ch1n3__> hweaving, can be tricky to get firmware for wifi afterwards when you need wifi to download the package
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2263 [18:00:20] <hweaving> *reads through the page*
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2265 [18:00:31] <hweaving> Is there an equivalent page or reference for the various agreements on those packages?
2266 [18:00:49] <hweaving> I see they're "non-free" but "redistributable", but I'd need to know if there are more restrictions, e.g. commercial vs. non-commercial etc.
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2269 [18:02:14] <hweaving> Or even just because I'm morbidly curious :P
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2271 [18:02:39] <hweaving> I can try to search up such things on my own as needed of course -- just wondered if they were already collected somewhere
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2273 [18:03:20] <__m4ch1n3__> maybe replaced-url
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2322 [18:19:38] <__m4ch1n3__> inb4 used google's url filter + debian.org lot to search debian knowledge
2323 [18:19:49] <__m4ch1n3__> <searchpattern> url:debian.org
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2325 [18:20:11] <__m4ch1n3__> before moved to duckduckgo
2326 [18:20:42] <hweaving> Google usually slaps you with a time-wasting robot test after you do maybe 2-3 advanced searches
2327 [18:21:22] <hweaving> "oh you actually put 'allintext:' to make sure something actually includes what you searched for, instead of garbage ads and unrelated things? Enjoy a sloooooow-fading-click-the-cars test."
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2329 [18:21:53] <knstn> If only gnome, adds transparent windows.
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2331 [18:22:29] <__m4ch1n3__> :D yeah google's famouse chinese waterdrop torture with captchas
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2418 [19:01:15] <derlg> I like the current debian logo. some people want it to change though. is there any actual momentum on that?
2419 [19:02:24] <mutante> sigh.. there are always some people who want design changes based on "looks old" and stuff.. and it's all subjective and follows trends like fashion
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2421 [19:02:37] <jelly> some people? [citation needed]
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2423 [19:03:12] <mutante> derlg: was it a mailing list thread you can link to?
2424 [19:04:28] <notenoughcatnip> derlg: replaced-url
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2428 [19:05:52] <derlg> mutante jelly last I recall seeing it was on Reddit :/
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2430 [19:06:25] <derlg> but I've seen it pop up prior
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2434 [19:07:39] <jelly> derlg: if there's a subreddit full of debian developers and debian maintainers, who are basically they only people having any say, I'd like to know about it
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2436 [19:08:23] <rwp> Congratulations hweaving! Good job. (Also by going through things carefully in small bits it may not have gone as fast but I think you understand it and have more confidence in it.)
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2438 [19:08:24] <hweaving> jelly, your beard has to be at least 6" long and sufficiently luxurious
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2442 [19:08:39] <hweaving> to be accepted in the elite club
2443 [19:08:54] <jelly> well... there's more beard than there is hair
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2452 [19:11:32] <hweaving> I hear you there
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2455 [19:12:42] <hweaving> warping back to 1994 replaced-url
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2458 [19:13:26] <hweaving> It actually worked out in my favor recently -- I was in a random office supply store picking up said laptop, and a floor employee shockingly had experience putting Linux on some of the laptops there. He had a very Linux-y beard so I knew the advice was legit
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2461 [19:17:12] <gnudium> Hello! can I ask about certain problems with sid here?
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2463 [19:18:35] <mtn> gnudium: testing, unstable: #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net
2464 [19:18:47] <gnudium> thanks mtn
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2525 [20:05:28] <jakew_> I'll ask again just in case someone currently here has any idea: since upgrading from 8 to 9 (with gnome-shell), I've been getting these weird-style notifications for disk mounting/unmounting and some other notifications. Sometimes (like now), they won't go away, though they usually do. Other notifications like "this window is ready" appear apparently as they should at the top center with a theme that looks more gnome-shell-ish. Does anyone recognize
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2527 [20:05:30] <jakew_> this? replaced-url
2528 [20:05:51] <SwaggerArch> Alienblaster is a lot of fun..
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2531 [20:07:05] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, unmounted hard drive?
2532 [20:07:41] <The0x539> I've got a .deb that wants me to have openjdk-7-jre, which is no longer an available package. What can I do to get this thing installed?
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2534 [20:07:44] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, hope that was a usb flash drive
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2537 [20:08:17] <SwaggerArch> The0x539, conflict in package
2538 [20:08:31] <SwaggerArch> run upgrade or update lately?
2539 [20:08:53] <The0x539> all my packages are up to date
2540 [20:08:59] <The0x539> java 7 is EOL
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2542 [20:09:19] <The0x539> I'm looking to either install it from an outside source, or convince apt that java 8 will work for this package (is that a thing?)
2543 [20:09:28] <The0x539> having no luck finding information on either one
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2545 [20:09:32] <jakew_> SwaggerArch: The issue isn't what the notification is about.. it's that this type of notification appears in this weird unthemed style and sometimes never goes away.
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2547 [20:09:46] <jakew_> It was an intentional unmount of an sdcard, yes.
2548 [20:10:24] <jelly> The0x539: which deb is it? You can unpack it, change the dependencies in DEBIAN/control, repack it back and install the new copy
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2550 [20:11:02] <jakew_> Usually I can click on them and they go away. This one won't and I'm going to have to logout and log back in if I want it to. So 2 questions: 1) Why this style in the first place, does anyone recognize the package or config option that produces this kind of notification; 2) secondarily, failing that, how do I make it go away?
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2553 [20:11:32] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, kill the process you try that
2554 [20:11:32] <The0x539> jelly: BDSup2Sub
2555 [20:11:43] <The0x539> lemme see if I can figure that out
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2557 [20:11:44] <jakew_> SwaggerArch: what process?
2558 [20:11:46] <jelly> The0x539: what a horryfying name!
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2560 [20:12:31] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, you try and run top figure out what that is.. not sure.. don't see that since the 90's.. lol
2561 [20:12:57] <jelly> The0x539: dpkg --extract foo.deb tempdir; dpkg --control foo.deb tempdir/DEBIAN; edit tempdir/DEBIAN/control ... maybe bump the version a bit too instead of just fixing the dependencies... ; dpkg -b tempdir .
2562 [20:12:59] <n4dir> a deb file is more or less an archive, but from the top of my head i can't tell you how to unpack and repack it (if you google, it is pretty straight forward though)
2563 [20:13:17] <n4dir> well: ... jelly obviously know how to :-)
2564 [20:13:23] <jelly> n4dir: it's pretty straightforward, man dpkg-deb
2565 [20:13:32] <SwaggerArch> Anyone know how to install cava.. tried won't let me
2566 [20:15:15] <areyouloco> !dpkg cava
2567 [20:15:17] <SwaggerArch> tried to update deb repository in git
2568 [20:15:18] <The0x539> alriiiiiiiiight that seems to install
2569 [20:15:25] <The0x539> many thanks, jelly
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2571 [20:15:34] <areyouloco> !debhelper cava
2572 [20:15:58] <SwaggerArch> areyouloco, that is a command thanks
2573 [20:16:21] <The0x539> ...and it's...a graphical program
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2578 [20:17:15] <SwaggerArch> areyouloco, that package was requested 900 days ago
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2581 [20:18:19] <SwaggerArch> cava terminal audio visualiser .. does anyone know if there is another package for this idea
2582 [20:19:01] <SwaggerArch> areyouloco, thanks for that tip keep me from asking question I can look up in debian
2583 [20:19:34] <jelly> The0x539: that actually runs!
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2585 [20:19:39] <jakew_> SwaggerArch: Some notifications are duplicated, some aren't: replaced-url
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2588 [20:19:48] <The0x539> ...wait it has command line invocation
2589 [20:19:51] <The0x539> I am saved!
2590 [20:19:57] <The0x539> thanks again, jelly
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2593 [20:20:22] <jelly> > A tool to convert and tweak bitmap based subtitle streams
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2595 [20:20:51] <jelly> why would anyone write that in java
2596 [20:21:02] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, lol that is a notifaction
2597 [20:21:10] <jakew_> SwaggerArch: And sometimes they're different styles: replaced-url
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2600 [20:21:45] <jakew_> I know it's a notification. The question is why are they appearing in different places and in this weird style.
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2604 [20:22:17] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, different device gets different notifaction.. what DE are you running
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2609 [20:23:11] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, sure if you plug in a usb flash drive might get a different color
2610 [20:23:30] <jakew_> What?
2611 [20:23:59] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, Desktop enviroment you running? mate, kde, gnome?
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2613 [20:24:03] <jakew_> This is gnome-shell. The issue is that the notifications shouldn't be appearing like this at all, they should be in the center.
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2616 [20:24:34] <jakew_> And not in this weird retro style. I posted on here because I thought someone might recognize what package or config option was producing these weird notifications.
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2620 [20:25:19] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, lol i see... Notifactions are standard in almost any enviroment these days...lol
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2625 [20:26:08] <jakew_> I know they're standard. That's obvious. The issue is that they shouldn't be appearing in this weird unthemed style and impossible to get rid of. I don't think you've understood what I'm asking.
2626 [20:26:21] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, can't right click with mouse and edit notifactions
2627 [20:26:23] <jakew_> nope
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2630 [20:26:56] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, No I understand ... see what your getting at..
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2632 [20:27:10] <jakew_> clicks on the notification act on the window beneath it.
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2634 [20:27:20] <jakew_> so a right click gets a context menu from my web browser.
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2636 [20:28:32] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, haven't seen anything like that since Redhat in 96
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2643 [20:29:16] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, It was a theme that didn't last to long..
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2645 [20:29:30] <jakew_> Haha ok I'll just dial up to aol using my faxmodem and see if I can find their screen name..
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2647 [20:29:45] <jakew_> Then I'll be able to ask
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2650 [20:30:10] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, that theme came from freshmeat.org back in the day
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2652 [20:30:55] <jakew_> Haha ok.. wonder why it made it into gnome-shell 3.22 then.
2653 [20:31:14] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, that was when 90% of all the repository files were on the same server
2654 [20:31:50] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, let me googlefu a minute
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2656 [20:32:31] <jakew_> SwaggerArch: ok thanks
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2661 [20:34:15] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, replaced-url
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2671 [20:37:30] <jakew_> SwaggerArch: The thing is, I do sometimes see the banners as shown on this page.. at first glance I don't see a separate category that only these strangely themed ones fall into.
2672 [20:38:13] <altker128> Hey guys. Quick question, I'm using a Debian stretch amd64 Linux container image (created via lxc-create -t download) and even thought /etc/network/interfaces has the virtual ethernet configured for DHCP, it doesn't seem to fire unlss I manually do an ifup eth0 in the container. Expected behavior? Some things to troubleshoot?
2673 [20:39:07] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, replaced-url
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2680 [20:41:52] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, Lmao that falls under that gnome tweak tool set that ubuntu never got around to finishing before unity.. lol
2681 [20:43:51] <jakew_> SwaggerArch: gnome tweak tool is from ubuntu?
2682 [20:43:58] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, Ubuntu has lots of members sitting on debian board and is calling the shoots.. worst there moving into snap with apps and looks to be abandoning some ideas.... Haven't seen update to git hub on gnome tweak tools in a while..
2683 [20:44:19] <jakew_> Anyway, I tried the extension, and it does have an affect on the already properly themed notifications, and no effect on these weird ones whatsoever.
2684 [20:44:44] <jakew_> Debian's going to use snap?
2685 [20:45:54] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, Ubuntu wants the world to use snap tools on any platiform download straight to desktop.. similar to google apps only make it run on desktop..
2686 [20:46:33] <jakew_> Werid. Seems really werid.
2687 [20:47:19] <jakew_> SwaggerArch: Solved! The #gnome room on gimpnet: killall dunst
2688 [20:47:36] <jakew_> how do i make sure that dunst stops auto-running?
2689 [20:48:08] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, good question..
2690 [20:48:26] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, replaced-url
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2692 [20:48:28] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, ubuntu crap..
2693 [20:48:35] <jakew_> Yeah, I saw that. Looks bizarre. I like apt
2694 [20:48:43] <altker128> Any thoughts on DHCP for a Debian Stretch container? On boot of the container, what should trigger the DHCP request?
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2699 [20:51:54] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, look at package in ubuntu ... replaced-url
2700 [20:53:00] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, arch wiki defines it better
2701 [20:53:05] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, replaced-url
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2704 [20:54:00] <gordonfish> If I extract the contents of debian-9.6.0-amd64-DVD-[1..3].iso to a directory on my usb stick (I'm setting up a stick to boot various OS installers), like /debian/9.6.0-amd64, can that be chain-booted to, or do I have to reference/call the vmlinuz/initrd in the usb's grub.cfg ?
2705 [20:54:03] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, well this states it all There is no need to start or enable dunst; it is called by systemd when programs send notifications through dbus.
2706 [20:54:24] <jakew_> ok. so basically i should uninstall it.
2707 [20:54:46] <joepublic> gordonfish, you already tried "root so and so" and "chainloader" grub commands?
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2709 [20:55:10] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, hell no bios communicates with dbus and sends it to systemd.. youll crash the system
2710 [20:55:24] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, kernel will take a nose dive
2711 [20:55:27] <jakew_> uninstall dunst i mean.
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2713 [20:55:56] <SwaggerArch> No read this!!!!
2714 [20:55:57] <gordonfish> joepublic: Not yet. Until now I was trying to chain boot to /iso/debian-9.6.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso (on the usb), something I was able to do with an unbuntu iso, but can't get to work for the debian iso.
2715 [20:56:03] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, There is no need to start or enable dunst; it is called by systemd when programs send notifications through dbus.
2716 [20:56:47] <jakew_> I know, I can see that. Then how do I prevent systemd from sending notifications to dunst?
2717 [20:57:00] <gordonfish> (I'm currently copying the contents have the three debian DVD isos to a directory as I mentioned, so I can't test quite yet (unless qemu doesn't mind booting a usb that's currently being written to??)
2718 [20:57:09] <gordonfish> )
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2721 [20:58:09] <joepublic> the grub manual is pretty complete and detailed and has examples. (complex, long, but complete)
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2726 [20:58:58] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, can't as far as I know disable this dbus sends signals to the systemd.. The kernel will panic.. Now this again goes back to this whole gnome ubuntu speed up boot times...
2727 [20:59:12] <gordonfish> Thanks. I'm fairly well versed with grub's syntax, I'm just trying to determine if this is the way to go, or if it can be done with an iso; seeking advise from anyone who has experience with that.
2728 [20:59:39] <jakew_> Ok. Then I basically have to uninstall dunst if I don't want it to receive notifications from systemd.
2729 [20:59:55] <jakew_> (Moot point, I already uninstalled it on advice from the #gnome room
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2732 [21:01:11] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, reboot I hope that works.. kernel may not be happy with that app.
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2734 [21:01:27] <jakew_> Huh. Ok. Thanks.
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2740 [21:02:51] <SwaggerArch> jakew_, That sends notifactions to desktop could cause a panic by the kernel or dbus or systemd.. Hopefully that was one of those apps that ubuntu made up when it started to play with boot times back in the day..
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2747 [21:09:44] <SwaggerArch> parrotOS is best for hacking.. Damn but the desktop is so nice... Damn Hackers..
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2751 [21:12:57] <Udaba> Is it Ubuntu based os?
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2756 [21:13:36] <SwaggerArch> parrotOS is debian based os
2757 [21:13:56] <Udaba> isnt quite the same?
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2759 [21:14:04] <Udaba> sry if my question is dumb
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2761 [21:14:29] <SwaggerArch> Udaba, same as?
2762 [21:14:40] <Udaba> as ubuntu
2763 [21:15:06] <Udaba> i think that on ubuntu and on debian u.are using apt-get
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2765 [21:15:33] <SwaggerArch> Udaba, not as full of holes as ubuntu is... secure is a debians enviroment.. Much slower in most cases on updates..
2766 [21:16:01] <iosecure> SwaggerArch: Ubuntu and Debian are just as secure as the other. It's the administrator's responsibility to manage his or her systems correctly.
2767 [21:16:05] <Udaba> i preffer Debian for sure but im newbie
2768 [21:16:20] <iosecure> Only a poor craftsman blames his tools.
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2770 [21:16:35] <Udaba> installed debian and i couldnt even install steam :p
2771 [21:16:49] <SwaggerArch> iosecure, getting to that point.. yes we know we can go less or more secure
2772 [21:16:57] <joepublic> poor tools exist with which it's not possible to do your best work.
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2774 [21:17:53] <SwaggerArch> turned into a philosophy course 101...
2775 [21:17:55] <iosecure> joepublic: A poor craftsman uses the wrong tools for the job at hand. Debian, Ubuntu, CentOS, and so on, all have their uses.
2776 [21:18:28] <joepublic> Debian, ubuntu, centos, and so on are great toolboxen full of great tools.
2777 [21:18:29] <SwaggerArch> iosecure, That is why I love my arch linux..
2778 [21:18:56] <iosecure> btw I use arch </meme>
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2780 [21:19:15] <joepublic> pacman -S "cool!"
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2783 [21:20:11] <iosecure> SwaggerArch: The point is that this statement is FUD and unsupported by reality: "15:15 <SwaggerArch> Udaba, not as full of holes as ubuntu is... secure is a debians enviroment.. Much slower in most cases on updates.."
2784 [21:20:14] <SwaggerArch> just not into the setup of arch these days ... Thank God for so many gui's to arch clones
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2786 [21:20:37] <iosecure> Just watch out which Arch clone you use. Some of their retooling is a nightmare. Anyway, this is offtopic in #debian, I suspect.
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2789 [21:22:01] <jelly> gordonfish: fwiw, debian-installer does not deal well with any kind of nonstandard usb/cd/dvd layout -- unetbootin, rufus and similar tools often make it unable to find its files
2790 [21:22:26] <SwaggerArch> iosecure, I private msged you
2791 [21:22:38] <iosecure> Not sure why, but alright.
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2813 [21:36:27] <jhutchins_wk> ,kernels
2814 [21:36:28] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.19.0-trunk-686-pae (4.19.5-1~exp1); sid: 4.19.0-1-686-pae (4.19.9-1); buster: 4.18.0-3-686 (4.18.20-2); stretch-backports: 4.18.0-0.bpo.3-686 (4.18.20-2~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-8-686-pae (4.9.130-2); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 4.9.0-0.bpo.8-686-pae (4.9.110-3+deb9u5~deb8u1); wheezy-
2815 [21:36:29] <judd> backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-6-686-pae (3.2.102-1)
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2831 [21:46:34] <serard> Hello
2832 [21:46:56] <serard> On a debian stretch 9.6.0, how can I get installed GLIBC_2.25 ?
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2834 [21:47:12] <greycat> You don't.
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2836 [21:47:27] <greycat> Stretch has libc6 2.24 and that is final.
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2840 [21:48:33] <serard> greycat, ah ok. So I cannot install gitlab on a stretch :(
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2844 [21:50:03] <Brigo> serard, gitlab is available in stretch, so you can install it.
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2846 [21:50:46] <serard> I know that's why I'm asking :) But I get this error : /opt/gitlab/embedded/bin/ruby: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.25' not found (required by /opt/gitlab/embedded/lib/libruby.so.2.4)
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2849 [21:51:37] <Brigo> serard, from the stretch package?
2850 [21:51:54] <serard> I download the deb from the gitlab
2851 [21:52:03] <serard> and use gdebi-core to install them
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2853 [21:52:33] <serard> I try to install 11.5.3-ce
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2856 [21:53:30] <Brigo> serad 11.5 won't work, Try the stretch package, 8.5. Is the only one available.
2857 [21:53:43] <serard> Brigo, ok, thanks !
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2859 [21:53:49] <Brigo> 8.13
2860 [21:53:56] <Brigo> serard, good luck.
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2863 [21:54:55] <serard> 8.3 -> 11.5.3-ce. Lol ok I'll move to ubuntu server for that service :)
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2865 [21:55:24] <greycat> !sns
2866 [21:55:24] <dpkg> Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>.
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2868 [21:55:48] <greycat> (no, there are no backports of libc6. no, you can't build one.)
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2870 [21:56:03] <greycat> (just ... stop defining your life and your goals by version numbers)
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2872 [21:56:56] <serard> greycat, may I use a docker on that stretch to run a docker instance of gitlab ?
2873 [21:57:40] <greycat> what's wrong with the stretch package of the stretch version of gitlab?
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2875 [21:58:29] <serard> what version is it of gitlabce ?
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2877 [22:00:32] <ntd> replaced-url
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2879 [22:00:49] <ntd> and even though this was uncovered close to three weeks ago: "meh"
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2884 [22:03:29] <ntd> apparently, this means no one is using ubuntu on tablets (since the issue went unnoticed) so no point in fixing the issue either, amirite? :P
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2889 [22:04:34] <spidget> !ssb
2890 [22:04:35] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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2894 [22:05:28] <notenoughcatnip> ntd: you could donate a tablet to a dev so they can fix it. helps more than infantile ranting.
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2896 [22:05:39] <ntd> nacc could verify the issue
2897 [22:05:56] <ntd> /sys/bus/iio is missing on ubuntu kernel => 4.15
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2899 [22:06:07] <ntd> just no one could be bothered
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2901 [22:06:54] <notenoughcatnip> ntd: apparently you are bothered, so why not help fix it at the appropriate channels, i.e. not here?
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2905 [22:07:59] <ntd> come on. support for an entire bus class goes missing for close to a year and that says nothing about canonical QA?
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2911 [22:08:35] <ntd> what's next, (P)RNG just goes faulty and who cares, right?
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2915 [22:09:38] <greycat> ntd: are you ranting in #debian about a bug in Ubuntu?
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2919 [22:10:32] <SwaggerArch> greycat, lol thinks the father is responsible for the child distro.. :D
2920 [22:10:47] <jelly> no, nettezza just likes to rant
2921 [22:10:54] <ntd> no, i mentioned a bug in ubuntu in #debian and then notenoughcatnip got in on the action
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2925 [22:11:31] <SwaggerArch> ntd, what is the whole rant about been jumping around
2926 [22:11:50] <jelly> ntd: use #debian-offtopic for random links, this channel is about Debian support
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2928 [22:12:04] <ntd> 10-4
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2984 [22:37:29] <ham5urg_> I have a strange problem. I can't repair GRUB. It doesn't matter what I do. No grub-install or update-grub or mkconfig helps. I have quite the same problem like here: replaced-url
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2987 [22:38:18] <ham5urg_> Grub inside the MBR starts but does not load anything, no GRUB shell. Just the "Welcome to GRUB!" message.
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2989 [22:38:28] <ham5urg_> No menu.
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2993 [22:40:27] <__m4ch1n3__> ham5urg_, boot installation debian medium and then select "repair" and not install, it will give you an option to reinstall grub at some point. Fixed my grub problemes always
2994 [22:40:32] <serard> Hello
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2998 [22:41:41] <serard> I have set apt to use an apt-cacher. I have also set Acquire::https::proxy=false; but then it breaks all apt update with https...
2999 [22:42:37] <serard> What is the correct config so that apt ?
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3002 [22:43:56] <serard> works over https .
3003 [22:43:57] <serard> ?
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3005 [22:44:19] <greycat> serard: apt-cache search apt transport https
3006 [22:44:47] <serard> it is installed
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3027 [22:48:35] <neilthereildeil> hi
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3029 [22:49:02] <neilthereildeil> i am trying to install a package, and it is trying to pull in another package, but i dont want it to pull in the other package. how can i stop this behavior\?
3030 [22:49:18] <greycat> by giving up your mad schemes
3031 [22:49:36] <greycat> is the undesired package a hard dependency of the first, or is it a recommends/suggests?
3032 [22:49:47] <jelly> !basic apt troubleshooting
3033 [22:49:47] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
3034 [22:49:49] <jelly> neilthereildeil: ^
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3036 [22:50:10] <greycat> Also, why are you keeping the package names secret? It would be a whole hell of a lot easier to help if we didn't have to guess and tooth-pull.
3037 [22:50:45] <jelly> they are secret packages from a secret santa
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3039 [22:51:01] <neilthereildeil> im trying to install virt-manager, and thats pulling in libxen-4.8. however, i have already built Xen from source and installed it from .deb
3040 [22:51:08] <greycat> So?
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3043 [22:51:43] <greycat> Installed-Size: 1259
3044 [22:51:44] <neilthereildeil> greycat: i saw that allowing it to install libxen-4.8 overwrites my .so files from the custom built xen .deb install
3045 [22:51:52] <greycat> I don't think your disk is going to be strained too severely.
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3047 [22:52:12] <neilthereildeil> greycat: its not about disk striain
3048 [22:52:19] <neilthereildeil> its about overwriting my custom build
3049 [22:52:23] <greycat> Why would your custom .so files be in the same directory that an official Debian package is using?
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3051 [22:52:43] <jelly> neilthereildeil: your custom libraries should either not have the same soname, or should have the same package names as Debian's
3052 [22:52:51] <neilthereildeil> because i built xen as a .deb file and the installed that deb
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3054 [22:53:11] <neilthereildeil> its not custom, but its part of the package i installed when i buylt Xen from source
3055 [22:53:19] <neilthereildeil> i meant custom as in a custom build
3056 [22:53:24] <neilthereildeil> not a new .so i created
3057 [22:53:31] <neilthereildeil> a custom Xen build
3058 [22:53:53] <jelly> neilthereildeil: then that .deb should at the very least Provides: libxen-4.8 if it contains libraries with exact same soname (= same path and filenames) as Debian's package
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3060 [22:54:02] <neilthereildeil> why does it even think that it needs libxen-4.8?
3061 [22:54:04] <neilthereildeil> ok
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3063 [22:54:33] <jelly> neilthereildeil: how come that custom build does not provide its own libxen-4.8_version_arch.deb ?
3064 [22:54:36] <neilthereildeil> jelly: this is unmodified Xen 4.11 built from the GIT release tag
3065 [22:54:48] <neilthereildeil> jelly: hmm, im not sure
3066 [22:54:56] <neilthereildeil> let me search for references to it
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3068 [22:55:50] <neilthereildeil> jelly: hmm, i dont see any relevant references
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3070 [22:56:00] <neilthereildeil> in the Xen 4.11 source grep
3071 [22:56:23] <neilthereildeil> how can i see the files that libxen-4.8 Provides?
3072 [22:56:50] <joepublic> xen 4.11 isn't likely to provide anything 4.8; just an observation
3073 [22:56:53] <greycat> "Provides" is not files. It is packages or virtual packages.
3074 [22:57:22] <neilthereildeil> joepublic: maybe virt-manager is incorrectly requiring 4.8 libs?
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3084 [23:00:39] <joepublic> one of its dependencies has libxen-4.8 as a dependency
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3088 [23:02:39] <neilthereildeil> joepublic: can i blacklist that package?
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3094 [23:05:22] <jelly> joepublic: xen 4.11 libraries may well be ABI compatible with 4.8
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3097 [23:06:29] <joepublic> if you blacklist a package, nothing that depends on it will be installable, meaning you can't install virt-manager
3098 [23:06:39] <jelly> and Debian keeps sonames and library package names unchanged unless they really need to be changed, that's in a case of backward incompatible change
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3100 [23:07:49] <joepublic> having your xen from (where?) provides: libvirt-4.8 would probably do what you ask, assuming that abi compatibility
3101 [23:07:51] <jelly> neilthereildeil: shared library dependencies are most often generated automatically so it's unlikely they're incorrect
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3103 [23:08:55] <joepublic> some lower level commands can be instructed to break apt ("doing it anyway, as you requested") but I don't think apt can be talked into deliberately breaking itself.
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3108 [23:10:06] <neilthereildeil> i debugged the .so call, and saw that both libxen-4.8 and my xen deb provide the same file. but you are right, that doesnt mean the ABI is broken
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3121 [23:15:18] <jelly> neilthereildeil: you deb should be either split into multiple .deb packages just like debian's, or its control file should have Provides: libxen-4.8 (= whatever minimal version debian packages need)
3122 [23:16:13] <jelly> versioned provides are a thing since around stretch.
3123 [23:17:24] <greycat> you probably didn't mean stretch...
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3125 [23:18:06] <neilthereildeil> ok, ill look at this more later
3126 [23:18:09] <neilthereildeil> thanks guys
3127 [23:18:26] <jelly> it was either jessie or stretch, recent development
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3130 [23:20:41] <ChmEarl> neilthereildeil, the virt stack is complete on buster with xen-4.11, qemu-3.10, and libvirt on top of those
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3135 [23:23:48] <neilthereildeil> ah ok. im on 9.6
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3141 [23:27:00] <ChmEarl> neilthereildeil, the stack begins with xen version, fed to qemu, then both fed to libvirt. On stretch you have xen-4.8
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3143 [23:27:36] <jelly> ,v libxen-4.8
3144 [23:27:37] <judd> Package: libxen-4.8 on amd64 -- stretch: 4.8.4+xsa273+shim4.10.1+xsa273-1+deb9u10; stretch-security: 4.8.4+xsa273+shim4.10.1+xsa273-1+deb9u10
3145 [23:27:44] <jelly> ,v libxen-4.11
3146 [23:27:45] <judd> No package named 'libxen-4.11' was found in amd64.
3147 [23:27:53] <jelly> ,v libxen-4.9
3148 [23:27:54] <judd> No package named 'libxen-4.9' was found in amd64.
3149 [23:28:26] <jelly> ,v xen
3150 [23:28:27] <judd> No package named 'xen' was found in amd64.
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3152 [23:28:52] <jelly> ,v xen-system-amd64
3153 [23:28:53] <judd> Package: xen-system-amd64 on amd64 -- wheezy: 4.1.4-3+deb7u9; wheezy-security: 4.1.6.lts1-14; jessie: 4.4.1-9+deb8u10; jessie-security: 4.4.1-9+deb8u10; stretch: 4.8.4+xsa273+shim4.10.1+xsa273-1+deb9u10; stretch-security: 4.8.4+xsa273+shim4.10.1+xsa273-1+deb9u10; buster: 4.11.1~pre.20180911.5acdd26fdc+dfsg-5; sid: 4.11.1~pre.20180911.5acdd26fdc+dfsg-5
3154 [23:29:18] <jelly> ,depends xen-system-amd64 --release=sid
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3156 [23:29:19] <judd> Package xen-system-amd64 in sid/amd64 -- depends: xen-hypervisor-4.11-amd64, xen-hypervisor-common, xen-utils-4.11.
3157 [23:29:51] <jelly> ,depends xen-utils-4.11 --release=sid
3158 [23:29:52] <judd> Package xen-utils-4.11 in sid/amd64 -- depends: libc6 (>= 2.15), libncurses6 (>= 6), libtinfo6 (>= 6), libxenevtchn1, libxengnttab1, libxenmisc4.11, libxenstore3.0 (>= 4.2~), libxentoolcore1, libxentoollog1, libyajl2 (>= 2.0.4), python:any, xen-utils-common (>= 4.11.1~pre.20180911.5acdd26fdc+dfsg-5).
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3160 [23:30:19] <jelly> so packaging changed even more
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