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• 37[00:26:49] <enoq> are backports usually an issue when upgrading?
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• 42[00:32:08] <enoq> needed a newer certbot version via stretch backports
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• 56[00:42:48] <annadane> enoq, depends
• 57[00:42:50] <annadane> !bat
• 58[00:42:51] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
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• 62[00:49:26] <tharkun> I am having this weird isue where on one server if I do curl ifconfig.me/ip it takes like forever to get the data when it does not time out. And dig +trace gives me some insane times now and a few minutes later is more or less stable. How can I pin point the underlying fault?
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• 77[01:02:54] <pagetelegram> Easy to get wmaker working and default on sparky? Would have used windowmakerlive....just that has not been updated lately. I'm somewhat a novice at loading DEs.
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• 79[01:03:09] <thorie> hi, how do i upgrade my linux kernel?
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• 81[01:03:56] <pagetelegram> thorie, I could be wrong as I'm also novice tho apt-get upgrade && update might do it.
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• 84[01:04:22] <thorie> pagetelegram: i ran those, and im on debian 9.5 now, but it still says kernel version 2.6 in uname -a
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• 86[01:04:41] <pagetelegram> huh, yea idk then. Hopeful someone else answers.
• 87[01:05:13] <pagetelegram> I'd wonder the same. cause the idea of wiping to start a newer version is not sound.
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• 89[01:05:42] <thorie> i also rebooted, but it still says 2.6.32
• 90[01:06:32] <thorie> i also ran apt-get install linux-image-4.9.0-8-amd64 but nothing changed
• 91[01:06:33] <pagetelegram> well yeah, there have to be another way....I novice enough to be weary to try such things as I might break something. I always keep my data on a seperate partition tho.
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• 93[01:07:15] <jhutchins_wk> thorie: You need to do dist-upgrade or full-upgrade to get the kerrnel.
• 94[01:07:25] <jhutchins_wk> thorie: 2.6 is pretty old, several releases ago.
• 95[01:07:42] <jhutchins_wk> thorie: What release are you using?
• 96[01:08:21] <jhutchins_wk> I have hot food waiting, good luck.
• 97[01:09:13] <thorie> jhutchins_wk: im using debian stretch 9.5
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• 99[01:09:37] <pagetelegram> thanks jh for that info as helpful for me too either I get wmaker on sparky or go the windowmakerlive route and do the full-upgrade
• 100[01:09:58] <thorie> jhutchins_wk: full-upgrade and dist-upgrade both tell me nothing new to do
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• 104[01:11:02] <pagetelegram> wonder it that is a depository issue....updating the links in the dipository conf file might fix...tho try researching that as also that might break things.
• 105[01:11:03] <thorie> the /boot folder shows vmlinuz-4.9.0-8-amd64 shouldn't that be good?
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• 112[01:14:33] <pagetelegram> I saw sparky wmaker in synamptic so going to see if the download and install gives wmaker default.
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• 114[01:15:39] <thorie> i don't have grub, maybe i need to install that?
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• 116[01:15:45] <pagetelegram> Although I really liked how windowmakerlive is setup. Wish I can get that to work...the hinderance is I don't have optical drive working...so usb thumb my only option.
• 117[01:15:52] <pagetelegram> grub is a boot manager
• 118[01:16:03] <pagetelegram> I don't think has anything to do with kernel
• 119[01:16:44] <thorie> trying to do this replaced-url
• 120[01:17:00] <thorie> but got errors:
• 121[01:17:01] <thorie> # grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
• 122[01:17:01] <thorie> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of `/dev/ploop28303p1'.
• 123[01:17:11] <pagetelegram> brb later...restarting my system to see if wmaker takes over as the DE
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• 127[01:19:34] <thorie> this is an interesting comment: "You're using a VPS and the kernel you see is the host's. Nothing Ubuntu can do about it. If you want a newer kernel, contact your host. – muru Dec 23 '16 at 10:25
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• 129[01:19:50] <thorie> i am on a vps... but why 2.6 :(
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• 132[01:21:11] <phogg> thorie: Stability (probably). Upgrading could break something that works, costing customers.
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• 135[01:21:26] <thorie> i can't run docker on 2.6
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• 137[01:21:44] <thorie> which means i can't deploy my site on this vps i ordered
• 138[01:21:52] <phogg> thorie: complain to the hosting provider. If enough customers do maybe they'll decide it's worth the risk.
• 139[01:22:19] <thorie> whaaaaat -_-
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• 141[01:22:31] <thorie> alright thx
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• 145[01:23:45] <pagetelegram> wmaker works...however I don't know how to change the login screen to be the windowmaker default.
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• 147[01:25:24] <pagetelegram> I also want the menus to populate existing software....it seems wmaker only carried over software common to the wmaker family
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• 192[02:08:00] <enoq> how do I run a2ensite without triggering notifications?
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• 195[02:09:38] <enoq> oops, wrong channel
• 196[02:09:39] <sZbcE8qNfG> what kind of notifications?
• 197[02:09:45] <enoq> #ansible
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• 199[02:09:56] <sZbcE8qNfG> oh ok
• 200[02:10:12] <enoq> seems like theres no module for that yet unfortunately
• 201[02:10:38] <sZbcE8qNfG> dont like ansible, puppet, or other modern complicated ways
• 202[02:10:56] <enoq> kinda becomes a necessity depending on the size
• 203[02:12:12] <sZbcE8qNfG> nah
• 204[02:12:32] <enoq> set up a mail server two years ago and needed to migrate machines
• 205[02:12:41] <enoq> had no clue what I did to get it working
• 206[02:12:52] <enoq> now its documented and testable with vagrant
• 207[02:12:56] <sZbcE8qNfG> use a vm
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• 209[02:13:37] <sZbcE8qNfG> snapshot the image
• 210[02:13:53] <sZbcE8qNfG> i really dont see how these new garbage tools fix anything
• 211[02:14:20] <sZbcE8qNfG> the old fashioned way was simpler, faster, and you didn't need all the telemetric garbage thtat needed to be isntalled on your server
• 212[02:14:41] <enoq> ansible is only ssh
• 213[02:14:52] <enoq> the issue is with evolving things
• 214[02:15:00] <sZbcE8qNfG> what is evolving???
• 215[02:15:04] <enoq> you set up your server and you need to change a config
• 216[02:15:09] <sZbcE8qNfG> stop writing 10 thousand layers of abstraction
• 217[02:15:20] <enoq> what services need to be restarted?
• 218[02:15:42] <sZbcE8qNfG> if your sys admin doesn't know what services need to be restarted, they should hand their resignation in
• 219[02:16:11] <enoq> it really depends on the size and use case
• 220[02:16:21] <enoq> sometimes things become pretty complicated and big
• 221[02:16:27] <enoq> custom services etc
• 222[02:16:41] <sZbcE8qNfG> well when you have to include this other things, that's what you get
• 223[02:16:43] <enoq> and people don't like to document things
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• 225[02:17:06] <enoq> whereas with ansible the code is the documentation
• 226[02:17:29] <sZbcE8qNfG> i've worked on both sides: projects that are youtube size....but very learn and only required a few services
• 227[02:17:46] <sZbcE8qNfG> and then I worked on microsoft projects.....youtube size and required all this type of garbage tools
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• 229[02:18:17] <sZbcE8qNfG> yes not a big fan of devops
• 230[02:18:20] <enoq> you mean .net?
• 231[02:18:26] <sZbcE8qNfG> yeah
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• 233[02:18:35] <enoq> on linux?
• 234[02:18:41] <sZbcE8qNfG> both
• 235[02:19:03] <enoq> i suppose its worse on the windows side
• 236[02:19:21] <enoq> TFS + all the jazz
• 237[02:19:25] <sZbcE8qNfG> one team I worked on was full of super stars...these guys knew everything. Learned a lot from them. You dont need all these bullshit like ansible etc
• 238[02:19:39] <sZbcE8qNfG> yeah im forced to go into dev ops now
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• 240[02:19:47] <enoq> you probably don't in some cases but it's convenient for certain things
• 241[02:19:48] <sZbcE8qNfG> brings it more $$$
• 242[02:20:30] <outoftime> What DE has best look from replaced-url
• 243[02:20:57] <sZbcE8qNfG> mate
• 244[02:21:00] <enoq> outoftime: depends on your taste
• 245[02:21:03] <sZbcE8qNfG> simple, gets out of the way DE
• 246[02:21:19] <sZbcE8qNfG> has just enough tools/settings that one could need as a power user
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• 248[02:22:07] <enoq> outoftime: they all look pretty great but KDE and cinnamon are maybe the most themable
• 249[02:22:09] <outoftime> enoq: how can I get some sort of "preview" ?
• 250[02:22:17] <enoq> google :)
• 251[02:22:21] <enoq> image search
• 252[02:22:25] <sZbcE8qNfG> run a vm and test drive it
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• 254[02:22:47] <sZbcE8qNfG> but Im a minimalist, I like simple way of doing things...MATE is the best
• 255[02:22:58] <sZbcE8qNfG> dont install LXDE, it has some problems
• 256[02:23:02] <sZbcE8qNfG> it's obsolete i believe
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• 258[02:23:09] <sZbcE8qNfG> or will be obsolete soon
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• 260[02:24:07] <outoftime> replaced-url
• 261[02:24:43] <enoq> xfce's argument used to be "uses less memory and is faster"
• 262[02:24:51] <enoq> not sure how much of that is still valid
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• 266[02:25:19] <enoq> so gnome, cinnamon, kde or mate (in that order :D)
• 267[02:25:54] <sZbcE8qNfG> whatever you do, if you install redshift or some other package...get rid of a trojan called geoclue
• 268[02:26:17] <outoftime> gnome is too heavy, for me. I really do not like even little freezes during work
• 269[02:26:19] <sZbcE8qNfG> geoclue sends your ip address and other identifying information to google wannabe mozilla
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• 271[02:27:08] <enoq> outoftime: probably because drivers or the mem leak bug that was "fixed" in 3.30
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• 275[02:29:42] <outoftime> enoq: have no idea, never used debian before. I'm ubuntu user.
• 276[02:29:54] <sZbcE8qNfG> uninstall that data collecting virus
• 277[02:29:58] <sZbcE8qNfG> and instal debian
• 278[02:30:12] <outoftime> enoq: but I'm going to be debian user, at least I want to be
• 279[02:30:23] <enoq> outoftime: debian software is pretty old
• 280[02:30:33] <enoq> check out what kernels and drivers you need
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• 282[02:31:01] <outoftime> enoq: I'm going to use live usb to find out what is going on in debian
• 283[02:31:11] <enoq> if you need newer kernels fedora is usually pretty nice
• 284[02:32:09] <outoftime> BTW, who will use kernels older than 4.15? Linux will not maintain tham, at least for a while.
• 285[02:32:27] <outoftime> *Linus
• 286[02:32:47] <enoq> some kernels are LTS, some have to be patched by distro maintainers
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• 290[02:35:57] <outoftime> sZbcE8qNfG: I have a big problem, I do not like to read manuals. They are supper awesome in debian, at least installation manual. Any way I spend entire day to read first 4 chapters not because they are difficult or have bad writing style, but because I want everything immediatly like in ubuntu...
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• 294[02:37:30] <sZbcE8qNfG> if you're a regular user, i don't see why you need more than the default debian mate installation
• 295[02:37:34] <sZbcE8qNfG> (other than drivers)
• 296[02:38:04] <sZbcE8qNfG> i've installed debian on so many machines...and they don't really need any additional things other than the wifi driver
• 297[02:38:34] <outoftime> sZbcE8qNfG: I had lots of troubles with rt3290 under ubuntu
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• 299[02:40:01] <outoftime> sZbcE8qNfG: I'll try mate right after xfce
• 300[02:41:51] <sZbcE8qNfG> yeah realtek sucks
• 301[02:42:08] <sZbcE8qNfG> qualcom and realtek, awful
• 302[02:42:21] <sZbcE8qNfG> intel...although proprietary....is high quality
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• 306[02:50:45] <annadane> please don't try to convince other people about the harmfulness of geoclue
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• 311[02:55:02] <outoftime> annadane: for me it was in educational purpose. I didn't know about it previosly.
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• 320[03:02:07] <pagetelegram> How can I access my exfat partition? It shows, though access is being denied.
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• 329[03:07:05] <LtL> pagetelegram: exfat-fuse package
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• 331[03:08:54] <LtL> pagetelegram: `apt show exfat-fuse` note the recommends
• 332[03:09:09] <sZbcE8qNfG> i dont get it
• 333[03:09:18] <sZbcE8qNfG> most people dont know that geoclue sends their ip and other stuff
• 334[03:09:38] <sZbcE8qNfG> if their a journalist in some tinpot dictator country, they have a right to know
• 335[03:10:06] <sZbcE8qNfG> it doesn't matter who it sends geoclue sends the data too
• 336[03:10:13] <sZbcE8qNfG> it's the fact it does behind the scenes
• 337[03:10:21] <sZbcE8qNfG> have we forgotten the ways of linux?
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• 339[03:10:27] <sZbcE8qNfG> or freedom
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• 350[03:15:02] <pagetelegram> recommends are exfat-util and I have that already
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• 353[03:17:29] <pagetelegram> still getting "not authorized" error for exfat access when exfat fuse and utils are installed
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• 356[03:19:57] <sZbcE8qNfG> are you able to mount it
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• 365[03:29:18] <pagetelegram> Yes, that was it. Obvious I did not know
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• 368[03:30:24] <sZbcE8qNfG> ?
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• 370[03:30:37] <pagetelegram> needed to be mounted first
• 371[03:30:51] <sZbcE8qNfG> just put it in fstab
• 372[03:31:06] <pagetelegram> perfect. thanks
• 373[03:31:19] <sZbcE8qNfG> with the correct options, uid and gid to your user account
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• 381[03:34:41] <pagetelegram> I don't know how to get the UUID cause fdisk not in my depos....can just put /dev# /mountpoint in place? It is a partition on same hard drive.
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• 390[03:41:01] <sZbcE8qNfG> cd /mnt, mkdir mountpoint, blkid the UUID and then mount accordingly in the fstab
• 391[03:42:27] <sZbcE8qNfG> something like UUID=(your partition UUID from blkid) /mnt/mountpoint ext4 defaults 0 2
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• 394[03:43:25] <sZbcE8qNfG> some tips: mountpoint is realy a bad name (name it for what it is, not how it's accessed), replace ext4 with whatever filesystem, and use 1 or 2 as the last number if you want check disk to run
• 395[03:44:41] <pagetelegram> blkid thanks
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• 421[04:16:29] <znoteer> youtube-dl doesn't work anymore. Apparently yt has changed something. Suppose the dev of yt-dl figures out what has changed and fixes the program soon, might we see that fix in Stretch, or is that the kind of fix that has to go through testing and unstable first?
• 422[04:17:09] <mason> znoteer: It's hard for distributions to keep up. The typical advice is to download youtube-dl from the upstream location and run that.
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• 425[04:21:21] <znoteer> mason: Yeah, I can see how it would be hard to keep up.
• 426[04:22:03] <sZbcE8qNfG> we need a youtube alternative
• 427[04:22:11] <sZbcE8qNfG> what we need is not another youtube clone
• 428[04:22:29] <sZbcE8qNfG> what we really need is one press of a button....it publishes the video to multiple platforms
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• 430[04:22:55] <sZbcE8qNfG> instead, what we have is youtube opensource clones...that doesn't cut theit
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• 432[04:23:48] <sZbcE8qNfG> if we are going to bring in bulllshit devops, let's up the game and let's not clone
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• 451[04:42:09] <rawf> Hi. I'm having trouble using ADB in debian (works fine in Ubuntu on the same machine). ADB commands can take up to a minute to complete, completely fail, or run instantly. Does anyone have an idea what might be wrong?
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• 457[04:45:27] <rawf> Turned out it was a firewall issue ._. my own fault.
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• 522[06:02:31] <factor> Does anyone know of a debian iso that is just a gui boot loader?
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• 524[06:03:24] <factor> I dont need it instalig anything , just need it as a boot loader for other drives.
• 525[06:03:57] <sZbcE8qNfG> can;;t you use the netinstall?
• 526[06:04:26] <factor> Will that work if I need to script it to auto boot to a specific drive
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• 528[06:05:13] <sZbcE8qNfG> can;t you mark the drive/partition bootable in fdisk and then boot from the bios?
• 529[06:05:26] <sZbcE8qNfG> (with some bios options that need to be toggled)
• 530[06:05:28] <factor> I have a Gigabyte mb had shorted out my mb now falling back to using this one, but does not boot linux. GA-78lmt-usb3
• 531[06:05:56] <factor> nope
• 532[06:06:14] <factor> this mb will not let an internal hd boot linux
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• 534[06:06:34] <sZbcE8qNfG> some setting int he bios options, turn off uefi?
• 535[06:06:43] <factor> I can use a usb boot, which is what I want to just auto boot to my sata
• 536[06:07:01] <sZbcE8qNfG> turn off uefi booting and try (secure boot)
• 537[06:07:10] <factor> not an option only uefi
• 538[06:07:28] <factor> Will check
• 539[06:07:44] <sZbcE8qNfG> i think all bioses support both.....but the legacy boot option is almost always hidden/contrived
• 540[06:07:59] <sZbcE8qNfG> you just need to look for it
• 541[06:09:29] <factor> nope this one looks for windows files on boot up.
• 542[06:09:36] <factor> non-efi or efi
• 543[06:10:07] <factor> but falls over to my usb boot device
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• 545[06:10:29] <factor> I will be happy for now if I can just auto boot debian from a bootable debian
• 546[06:10:31] <factor> usb
• 547[06:10:54] <factor> boot usb then auto boot sata
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• 549[06:11:24] <factor> so net install should work.
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• 551[06:12:04] <sZbcE8qNfG> yeah
• 552[06:12:19] <factor> ok, will try that , off to get a small usb stick
• 553[06:12:22] <sZbcE8qNfG> you should be able to boot from the eisting mbr
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• 555[06:12:42] <sZbcE8qNfG> but i never tried that someone else might have a better idea
• 556[06:13:04] <sZbcE8qNfG> if it me, i just reinstall, it's fast enough to just reinstalled..3-4 hours
• 557[06:13:19] <factor> no the mb does not install linux
• 558[06:13:31] <factor> no boot you can read up on it
• 559[06:13:38] <factor> it looks for windows files
• 560[06:13:56] <factor> the mbr will work in most other boards , not this one
• 561[06:14:21] <factor> reinstall wont help anything and lose all my data
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• 565[06:19:35] <cortex_> replaced-url
• 566[06:19:39] <cortex_> Debian is patched?
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• 570[06:20:47] <LibertyWeNeed> Hi folks. How do I modify startup applications in Debian? I am in the process of switching all Ubuntu machines to Debian and can't for the life of me find out where to add or remove start up items.
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• 573[06:24:15] <cortex_> and this ? replaced-url
• 574[06:25:32] <nyov> LibertyWeNeed: You'll need to be more explicit about what you mean with "start up items"
• 575[06:26:35] <sZbcE8qNfG> lose all your data/'
• 576[06:26:50] <sZbcE8qNfG> connect the HDD to another compn and transfer the data
• 577[06:26:54] <LibertyWeNeed> well in ubuntu there is an application called "Startup Applications" which I could add programs to automatically startup at login. But that doesn't seem to be available in debian
• 578[06:27:11] <sZbcE8qNfG> if you used raid and you depended on the hw raid controller....then you lost all your ata
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• 580[06:27:34] <LibertyWeNeed> I want to automatically run apps like syncthing after logging in
• 581[06:28:59] <sZbcE8qNfG> why syncthing?
• 582[06:29:12] <nyov> I suppose you mean something like a GNOME application there, sorry I don't have any idea about those - or what ubuntu might be shipping there that debian doesn't
• 583[06:29:45] <sZbcE8qNfG> i thought their one way sync was really buggy...and the regular sync........
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• 585[06:32:43] <LibertyWeNeed> syncthing has worked really well for me
• 586[06:33:05] <LibertyWeNeed> Does anyone know how to easily get apps to start at login?
• 587[06:33:16] <LibertyWeNeed> a GUI method is preferred
• 588[06:33:35] <themill> "login to what" would be a good place to start
• 589[06:34:00] <sZbcE8qNfG> which DE?
• 590[06:34:01] <LibertyWeNeed> when I log in to my debian computer.
• 591[06:34:19] <sZbcE8qNfG> depends on whta time of app and what type of DE?
• 592[06:34:28] <nyov> must be gnome3 ^^
• 593[06:34:40] <sZbcE8qNfG> ...
• 594[06:34:42] <LibertyWeNeed> its the latest stable version using the GNOME desktop
• 595[06:34:48] <sZbcE8qNfG> ...
• 596[06:34:57] <sZbcE8qNfG> sorry i dont use virus trojan DE
• 597[06:35:01] <sZbcE8qNfG> someone else maybe help
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• 600[06:36:00] <sZbcE8qNfG> reddit.com/r/privacy and reddit.com/r/privacytoolsio if you want to learn about all the ex$cellent stuff gnome virus has been implementing
• 601[06:36:11] <sZbcE8qNfG> replaced-url
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• 603[06:37:16] <sZbcE8qNfG> if you doubt, search for the mac address in the tools setion
• 604[06:37:17] <themill> sZbcE8qNfG: you're not helping. again.
• 605[06:37:27] <sZbcE8qNfG> search for the mac addr
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• 607[06:38:39] <themill> LibertyWeNeed: you can drop .desktop files into ~/.config/autostart; IIRC the gui is in gnome-tweak-tool
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• 610[06:39:05] <LibertyWeNeed> thank you themill !
• 611[06:39:16] <sZbcE8qNfG> replaced-url
• 612[06:39:59] <cortex_> lo
• 613[06:40:01] <cortex_> lol
• 614[06:40:29] <nyov> sZbcE8qNfG: wait, Google is collecting info? Breaking News!
• 615[06:41:08] <sZbcE8qNfG> replaced-url
• 616[06:41:12] <sZbcE8qNfG> the future is coming
• 617[06:41:21] <sZbcE8qNfG> thanks for advancing the agenada
• 618[06:41:52] <sZbcE8qNfG> cloudflare is dominating the man in the middle infrastructure
• 619[06:42:00] <sZbcE8qNfG> thanks for advancing it
• 620[06:42:06] <sZbcE8qNfG> good job
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• 622[06:42:15] <nyov> you're on the wrong channel for it, though -.-
• 623[06:43:52] <LibertyWeNeed> themill: I don't understand what you mean by drop .desktop files into ~/.config/autostart ?? I tried the GUI but I can't find away to autostart the command "syncthing" because the application is not visible in the gnome apps tray.
• 624[06:44:09] <themill> You'd have to write a .desktop file then
• 625[06:45:04] <nyov> LibertyWeNeed: replaced-url
• 626[06:45:07] <themill> ~/.config/autostart-scripts/ may also be supported by gnome
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• 630[06:50:57] <LibertyWeNeed> themill: I found the .config/autostart-scripts thing. now what? how do I add syncthing?
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• 632[06:51:34] <LibertyWeNeed> well more precisely I found ~/.config/autostart
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• 636[06:55:29] <themill> syncthing comes with a systemd unit; are you sure you need to start it this way?
• 637[06:55:50] <LibertyWeNeed> not sure. if you know of an easier way
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• 748[09:05:33] <factor> when I boot with netinst how do I get to the grub terminal, so I can manually boot to a drive I want
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• 756[09:15:33] <themill> factor: rescue mode might help, but the netinst uses syslinux not grub
• 757[09:15:48] <themill> (or at least it used to be syslinux and I don't recall hearing that has changed)
• 758[09:15:56] <factor> ahh, why I could not find it. that is like a bootable cdrom
• 759[09:16:09] <themill> it *is* a bootable cd-rom ;)
• 760[09:16:18] <factor> do you know of an iso that boots into grub?
• 761[09:16:37] <factor> no but I plugged in my cdrm for the first time in a decade I think
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• 763[09:16:49] <factor> working with a slightly older board
• 764[09:17:00] <factor> and it does not boot linux
• 765[09:17:02] <themill> the netinst rescue mode boots off the ISO and then lets you chroot in to fix grub
• 766[09:17:19] <factor> but will boot from a usb stick, then I can use grub to boot the internal sata
• 767[09:17:31] <factor> no fix
• 768[09:17:35] <factor> the board wont boot Linux
• 769[09:17:47] <factor> I need to boot to grub on a usb stick
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• 771[09:18:02] <factor> the MBR and grub work fine in any other board
• 772[09:18:33] <purpleunicorn> Should I use Debian or Ubuntu or gallium? I’ve used ubuntu in the past but I’m still a beginner when it comes to Linux distorts
• 773[09:18:36] <purpleunicorn> Distros
• 774[09:19:02] <factor> working with any distro is fine
• 775[09:19:11] <factor> ubuntu is the easiest.
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• 778[09:20:04] <purpleunicorn> Yeah I figure
• 779[09:20:14] <purpleunicorn> Figured*
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• 813[09:58:26] <purpleunicorn> Will a Chromebook cause issues when downloading Debian
• 814[09:58:50] <at0m> why would it
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• 816[09:59:37] <at0m> it's a download like any other. can you put the .iso on a usb stick from chromebook?
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• 821[10:01:43] <purpleunicorn> I wouldn’t want it as dual boot
• 822[10:01:56] <purpleunicorn> Or just to have Debian and no other os
• 823[10:02:47] <purpleunicorn> Nvm
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• 825[10:02:51] <purpleunicorn> What I said
• 826[10:03:02] <at0m> purpleunicorn: right, but you need the .iso on a bootable medium. CD/DVD/usb stick/SD card
• 827[10:03:36] <at0m> ..regardless of your final installation destination
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• 829[10:05:58] <nyov> has anyone ever considered rebasing Mer core on debian? :D
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• 831[10:06:55] <factor> Anyone know where syslinux is on netinstall iso image directory tree.
• 832[10:07:21] <nyov> root?
• 833[10:07:55] <factor> will check
• 834[10:08:04] <factor> root user or /
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• 837[10:08:28] <nyov> if it's used to boot it, I would first check /
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• 839[10:08:46] <factor> under what directory?
• 840[10:08:55] <nyov> or are you looking for a package
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• 842[10:09:40] <factor> nope for the syslinux config file , so I can change it to boot to an internal hard drive
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• 847[10:12:46] <nyov> I just checked my usb: ldlinux.sys, vmlinuz, syslinux.cfg, initrd.gz
• 848[10:12:49] <nyov> is what you need
• 849[10:13:35] <factor> ahh ok cool
• 850[10:14:06] <nyov> you know you could also use tianocore for uefi booting?
• 851[10:14:31] <nyov> if syslinux doesn't pan out
• 852[10:14:55] <factor> what is tianocore
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• 854[10:15:43] <nyov> and then you can install grubefi onto your usb stick
• 855[10:15:58] <nyov> replaced-url
• 856[10:16:17] <nyov> at least that's something I had in the past
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• 858[10:16:57] <nyov> replaced-url
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• 860[10:17:49] <factor> oh nifty GrubEFIreinstall looks promising
• 861[10:19:14] <nyov> that's like installing 'legacy' grub into your usb stick boot sector (or whatever). you'll get some "Shellx64.efi" MS-DOS executable which your uefi bios should find and boot
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• 869[10:23:37] <factor> the refind imag was not bootable
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• 871[10:24:42] <factor> Will try the Syslinux method
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• 883[10:28:17] <fling> Are there Russian man pages for coreutils?
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• 885[10:29:47] <themill> not that I can see within Debian
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• 964[11:27:51] <Eightynine> I have added snap support and installed Firefox snap but it didn't appear in menu. What should I do?
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• 968[11:30:00] <glick> hi, does anyone know why my usb mounts a readonly when i plug it in?
• 969[11:30:12] <glick> i ran the mount command and its mounted as ro
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• 973[11:31:49] <Eightynine> Hi. Can you check this USB device under Windows?
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• 975[11:32:38] <teclo-> glick: you can remount in readwrite with mount -o remount -o rw
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• 978[11:33:35] <glick> teclo i have to to use the dev name though right?
• 979[11:33:56] <teclo-> glick: yes you have to put /dev/xxxxx
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• 981[11:34:24] <nyov> also check your dmesg output for a set fat32 error flag, by not unmounting correctly
• 982[11:34:38] <nyov> perhaps your fstab says to remount-ro on errors
• 983[11:34:56] <glick> teclo-, what would the command look like?
• 984[11:35:23] <teclo-> glick: uhhh I don't know for sure
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• 1017[11:57:26] <remo> Hi. I'm backup system tar cjpf * and restore to another system tar xjpf. Run system and all ok, but virtual console C-A-F1 -- F12 not work. Why. How to fix this ?
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• 1034[12:07:45] <antto> which package do i install to get this "npm" program? it seems it might be related to nodejs (i installed that already)
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• 1043[12:11:29] <diogenes_> antto, replaced-url
• 1044[12:12:08] <nyov> antto: npm?
• 1045[12:12:15] <nyov> ,v npm
• 1046[12:12:17] <judd> Package: npm on amd64 -- jessie: 1.4.21+ds-2; buster: 5.8.0+ds5-1; sid: 5.8.0+ds5-1
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• 1048[12:13:36] <antto> i'm trying to build something that seems to require nodejs, git, and yarn
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• 1052[12:15:36] <antto> i'm on debian stable, and i got stretch-backports added into synaptic, so i already installed the backports version of nodejs..
• 1053[12:15:43] <petn-randall> antto: It was removed before stable release because of quality reasons. You'll have to install it from upstream.
• 1054[12:16:27] <antto> "from upstream" <- where can i read about how to do that?
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• 1056[12:16:47] <nyov> glick: you could find the device with `ls /dev/disk/by-id/usb*`, and I would try to run an `fsck.vfat /dev/disk/...` on it, if its a standard fat32.
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• 1058[12:18:04] <petn-randall> antto: "upstream" is the general name for the project where the code comes from. So you want to have a look at the npm website for how to install it.
• 1059[12:18:39] <antto> :/
• 1060[12:18:51] <nyov> antto: perhpas first try diogenes_' link
• 1061[12:18:59] <nyov> *perhaps
• 1062[12:19:41] <antto> that situation where you download something and run it as root, or add some foreign stuff to sources.list?
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• 1064[12:20:03] <nyov> exactly ;)
• 1065[12:20:14] <antto> i wished to avoid doing those sort of things
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• 1068[12:20:21] <antto> maybe it's not worth it
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• 1087[12:46:59] <BCMM> antto: it's probably npm *or* yarn
• 1088[12:47:12] <BCMM> npm is popular, yarn is a little less messy
• 1089[12:47:44] <BCMM> also in my experience yarn works OK with the debian-provided version and npm is not happy unless you install the very latest manually and just let it mess up the filesystem
• 1090[12:47:44] <antto> i've no idea about these things, so i'd better not mess up my debian
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• 1156[13:56:28] <candidat> hello :)
• 1157[13:56:35] <candidat> how do you look for a nickname on irc ?
• 1158[13:57:47] <NetTerminalGene> ,kernels
• 1159[13:57:48] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.19.0-rc4-686-pae (4.19~rc4-1~exp1); sid: 4.18.0-1-686-pae (4.18.8-1); buster: 4.18.0-1-686-pae (4.18.6-1); stretch-backports: 4.18.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.18.6-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-8-686-pae (4.9.110-3+deb9u4); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 4.9.0-0.bpo.8-686-pae
• 1160[13:57:49] <judd> (4.9.110-3+deb9u4~deb8u1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-6-686-pae (3.2.102-1)
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• 1170[14:05:36] <candidat> hey
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• 1175[14:07:24] <JohnA> I am writing a renew-hook for letsencrypt. one of its functions is to launch a delayed task to remove old TLSA records. Which would it be "better" to manage the delay 'at' or 'systemd-run'?
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• 1180[14:09:37] <petn-randall> candidat: What do you mean with that?
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• 1187[14:13:53] <candidat> petn-randall i mean, how do you find a user on irc. I want to chat with a guy named rypervenche
• 1188[14:14:32] <candidat> there was a command !find username
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• 1190[14:14:41] <candidat> !find rypervenche
• 1191[14:15:08] <candidat> idk
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• 1195[14:15:47] <JohnA> !find JohnA
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• 1197[14:16:06] <JohnA> !find petn-randall
• 1198[14:16:21] <candidat> !find JohnA
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• 1205[14:22:29] <candidat> anybody here can coach me to be a good linux sys admin ?
• 1206[14:23:13] <diogenes_> alway check for open ports :)
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• 1211[14:24:41] <petn-randall> candidat: This is a Debian support channel. We can help you with specific issues, but we can't coach you to become a sysadmin. I recommend checking the local Linux user group in your town, larger cities also have meetups for Linux sysadmins.
• 1212[14:25:17] <candidat> cool ! i ll do that. Thanks petn-randall
• 1213[14:25:33] <JyZyXEL> online classes have also become prevalent
• 1214[14:26:01] <candidat> diogenes_ yes they enter the network trought open ports :))
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• 1216[14:27:03] <candidat> JyZyXEL yes like video tutorials on youtube or other online tutoring video class
• 1217[14:27:21] <JyZyXEL> exactly
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• 1239[14:51:41] <litb> hello all
• 1240[14:51:50] <litb> my mouse's scrolling doesn't work.
• 1241[14:51:57] <litb> this was the same on archlinux.. now on debian
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• 1244[14:52:18] <litb> I suspect it's the fault of evdev -> libinput transition. something in libinput seems to not work
• 1245[14:52:22] <RoyK> litb: does it work with another mouse?
• 1246[14:52:30] <iflema> touchpad?
• 1247[14:52:38] <litb> testing the wheel over "xev" shows that the event often sends the wrong button number
• 1248[14:52:59] <litb> which in the apps cause the scrolling to not work correctly. it just jumps around randomly when i scroll
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• 1250[14:53:13] <litb> normal vertical mouse with multiple buttons and a normal wheel
• 1251[14:53:25] <litb> "Anker Wireless Vertical Mouse"
• 1252[14:53:35] <iflema> battery?
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• 1254[14:53:40] <litb> RoyK, yes, other vertical mice work
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• 1256[14:54:46] <litb> sorry, I meant other mice work. i tested a microsoft basic optical mouse
• 1257[14:54:53] * iflema whipping up a fury, dominating flurry
• 1258[14:55:10] <litb> iflema, i replaced battery and the behavior doesn't change
• 1259[14:55:59] <litb> maybe I should try and replace the input driver to xorg-input-evdev ?
• 1260[14:56:40] <iflema> whats a vertical mouse
• 1261[14:57:01] <iflema> doesnt go sideways?
• 1262[14:57:14] <litb> what do you mean?
• 1263[14:57:30] <iflema> oh high
• 1264[14:57:39] <litb> ah i see. it goes sideways. but you don't have to rotate your hand to hold it
• 1265[14:57:49] <iflema> half a mongre
• 1266[14:58:44] <litb> personally i would vote for "normal" mice to be called horizontal mice instead
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• 1268[14:59:45] <iflema> rotate... i see
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• 1270[15:01:07] <litb> and it also avoids bending your wrist
• 1271[15:01:44] <iflema> get a inverted mouse... and mix it up
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• 1273[15:02:11] <iflema> rotate all 3...
• 1274[15:03:05] <iflema> palm up
• 1275[15:03:35] <litb> what should I rotate?
• 1276[15:03:44] <litb> do you mean i should rotate the mouse around all three axes?
• 1277[15:03:55] <litb> by how many degrees? 360?
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• 1279[15:04:03] <iflema> vertical keyboard....
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• 1282[15:05:55] <iflema> like a A frame /\
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• 1302[15:17:16] <vjacob> should one have to install additional software/do any manual configuration normally to get audio devices working on debian?
• 1303[15:17:38] <vjacob> It's not my experience in the past, but right now I am starting to wonder if later
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• 1307[15:18:15] <vjacob> versions of debian might have changed or if the version of debian I installed (XFCE/cdrom) does not come with all the stuff needed for sound
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• 1321[15:22:58] <iflema> whats alsamixer say? did you get any info out of pulseaudio?
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• 1331[15:26:04] <iflema> if using pulseaudio...
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• 1347[15:44:18] <zleap> hi all
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• 1350[15:45:36] <vjacob> iflema, apparently the sound card is there, works in vlc and with 'speaker-test' and all, but even though firefox has a dependency on pulseaudio...
• 1351[15:45:48] * zleap is installing debian 9.5 non free, so he can use devices such as arduino / microbit without the problems linked to ubuntu based distributions
• 1352[15:45:49] <vjacob> it seems that the prerequisites for pulse audio have not been installed when firefox was installed
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• 1354[15:46:08] <vjacob> oops.
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• 1376[16:06:52] <candidat> god are you there ?
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• 1380[16:07:32] <candidat> :-)
• 1381[16:07:36] <candidat> hey friends !
• 1382[16:09:24] <dvs> candidat, Hello, Margaret
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• 1425[16:36:18] <zleap> yay warzone2100 works under debian 9.5 - deb 1 ubuntu,mint et al 0
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• 1428[16:39:00] <outoftime> candidat: he didn't respond because you wrote his name started with letter in lowercase.
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• 1436[16:42:32] <jelly> it's more of a title than Her name
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• 1478[17:09:59] <nebunez> Hello, new user of Debian here. I'm looking for status bar applets for i3 that work with the default Debian DE.
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• 1482[17:11:55] <mtn> nebunez: what de? i3 usually is used in place of a de
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• 1485[17:14:00] <mtn> nebunez: anyway, you could look at the arch wiki on i3 to learn all you ever wanted to know about it ;)
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• 1487[17:14:50] <nebunez> When I installed Debian I checked only 'Debian DE' which installed gnome stuff
• 1488[17:15:38] <mtn> nebunez: ah, then you have gnome.
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• 1490[17:16:19] <nebunez> then I installed i3 and I'm using tha
• 1491[17:16:22] <nebunez> that*
• 1492[17:16:47] <mtn> nebunez: again, arch wiki for the win
• 1493[17:16:59] <nebunez> for example, I used Xubuntu before and when I installed i3, there were applets already in i3
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• 1495[17:17:34] <nebunez> are you referring to this page? replaced-url
• 1496[17:17:56] <mtn> nebunez: yes, that is the i3 wiki page
• 1497[17:18:38] <nebunez> I'll read through but I don't see anything about applets on a quick search
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• 1499[17:19:28] <mtn> nebunez: well, if you are referring to putting applets on the gnome bar, that will not work very well. that is a gnome issue, not i3
• 1500[17:19:41] <nebunez> no, I'm looking for applets for the i3 bar
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• 1502[17:19:58] <mtn> nebunez: i3 does not come with a bar. you add one. the wiki explains it
• 1503[17:19:59] <nebunez> which I thought gnome applets would work, but it seems to not be the case
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• 1505[17:20:22] <mtn> nebunez: sorry, you add components to the i3 bar
• 1506[17:20:37] <mtn> nebunez: and there are alternatives, too
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• 1508[17:22:59] <mtn> nebunez: the wiki has a section on the bar, too. lots and lots of info about using i3
• 1509[17:23:32] <nebunez> cool, that points me in the right direction, thanks
• 1510[17:23:39] <mtn> nebunez: welcome
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• 1515[17:33:44] <outoftime> Reading Instalation Guide, section "6.3.3.1
• 1516[17:33:50] <outoftime> Supported partitioning options"
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• 1520[17:34:19] <outoftime> I can not find tmpfs in supported FSs
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• 1522[17:36:29] <outoftime> Is it supported during installation? I'd like my /tmp to use tmpfs. Is there way to set it up during installation?
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• 1532[17:41:09] <jelly> outoftime: tmpfs is backed by RAM and swap, no partition
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• 1536[17:43:18] <outoftime> jelly: So I can set /tmp to tmpfs during installation?
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• 1544[17:46:28] <jelly> outoftime: well. definitely not during partitioning, and I don;t know if there's a way to set it somewhere else
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• 1546[17:48:13] <jelly> release upgrade scripts going from debian 8 to debian 9 seem to enable it by doing "cp /usr/share/systemd/tmp.mount /etc/systemd/system/tmp.mount"
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• 1548[17:48:23] <jelly> outoftime: so I guess you can do that after installation
• 1549[17:49:05] <jelly> and reboot
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• 1555[17:52:27] <outoftime> jelly: Thank you for an advice. I've done similar on ubuntu using /etc/fstab... Reading docs how it works with systemd.
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• 1560[17:54:59] <jelly> a fstab entry should also still work
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• 1566[17:58:34] <outoftime> jelly: "Note that the options User= and Group= are not useful for mount units. systemd passes two parameters to mount(8); the values of What= and Where=. When invoked in this way, mount(8) does not read any options from /etc/fstab, and must be run as UID 0." it will, looks like systemd creates hard links in addition to /etc/fstab and uses `mount` utility.
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• 1598[18:24:47] <outoftime> jelly: "Mount units may either be configured via unit files, or via /etc/fstab (see fstab(5) for details). Mounts listed in /etc/fstab will be converted into native units dynamically at boot and when the configuration of the system manager is reloaded. In general, configuring mount points through /etc/fstab is the preferred approach. See systemd-fstab-generator(8) for details about the conversion."
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• 1600[18:24:53] <outoftime> looks like /etc/fstab should be used as first option
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• 1715[19:37:07] <awal1> exim4 needed for send bugs?
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• 1719[19:43:15] <n_1-c_k> awal1: no, not in general.
• 1720[19:44:30] <awal1> n_1-c_k, ok :)
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• 1724[19:47:39] <zleap> hi n_1-c_k ,I think i recognize you from #dcglug
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• 1761[20:11:03] <zleap> so who was buster (deb 10 codename) in toystory, I know bullseye (deb 11 codename) was the horse
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• 1770[20:15:31] <outoftime> Can I mix usual partitioning with LVM? For an example, I have /dev/sda6 where I want my debian to live.
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• 1781[20:22:31] <format_c> outoftime: AFAIK you cannot mix. under the hood LVM implicitely uses aclassic partition structure to sperarate the LVM code from the data.
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• 1788[20:29:44] <jelly> !buster
• 1789[20:29:44] <dpkg> The release following Debian 9 "Stretch" is codenamed "Buster" (Andy's pet Dachshund in Toy Story) and will be Debian 10. replaced-url
• 1790[20:30:38] <zleap> thanks
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• 1794[20:32:02] <zleap> Link: replaced-url
• 1795[20:32:18] <zleap> amazon - disney's toy story plus bullseye
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• 1906[21:16:26] <uniqdom> debian-next is an invite only channel. is there another channel to talk about Debian Buster?
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• 1908[21:16:46] <at0m> uniqdom: -next is on irc.oftc.net
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• 1910[21:16:54] <uniqdom> I see
• 1911[21:17:34] <at0m> they were there before freenode existed
• 1912[21:18:06] <at0m> freenode came later, and #debian was added cos so many were on this network
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• 1940[21:37:54] <peer101_> hii
• 1941[21:38:03] <peer101_> helo al
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• 1943[21:38:13] <peer101_> how r u all??
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• 1946[21:39:14] <jelly> at0m: actually, all the official #debian* channels existed on freenode first, and moved off to oftc around 2005
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• 1948[21:39:46] <at0m> jelly: oh. thanks for setting that straight
• 1949[21:39:53] <jelly> !irc move
• 1950[21:39:54] <dpkg> irc.debian.org moved to OFTC on June 4th 2006, see replaced-url
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• 1954[21:41:00] <peer101_> hiii
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• 1956[21:41:20] <jelly> peer101_: fine, but note this is mostly a tech support channel and not a chat channel so don't be surprised about the lack of chat
• 1957[21:41:54] <peer101_> ok sorry
• 1958[21:41:57] <jelly> there's ##chat or #debian-offtopic if you want to chat
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• 1975[21:50:31] <Kobaz> what's a good way to boot a system from an initrd shell
• 1976[21:50:55] <Kobaz> something is wacked out.. .even though root is being passed as /dev/sda1... initrd is mounting /dev/sdb1 as /root
• 1977[21:51:01] <Kobaz> and then of course things fail
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• 1979[21:51:17] <Kobaz> i can mount the proper root in /root, and then i forgot how to kickstart it
• 1980[21:51:48] <jelly> just exit the initramfs shell I think
• 1981[21:51:57] <jelly> !debug initramfs
• 1982[21:51:57] <dpkg> rumour has it, initramfsdebug is replaced-url
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• 1985[21:52:55] <A|an> I'm running Debian 9 w/ Gnome Classic...installed x11vnc earlier...an icon is placed in the center of the top panel, allowing the user to control the application...with x11vnc, though, clicking the icon does nothing and to kill the app you have to resort to a killall at the comm
• 1986[21:53:05] <A|an> It's obviously a Gnome thing...how can I fix that? I've looked for a config file, with no l
• 1987[21:53:13] <A|an> luck
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• 1997[21:55:09] <jelly> better
• 1998[21:56:03] <jelly> A|an: x11vnc takes a number of command line argument to work, I think
• 1999[21:56:27] <Gigglebyte> For reasons unknown my Hexchat is logging on in duplicate, and I haven't figured out why.
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• 2001[21:56:36] <Gigglebyte> Program isn't auto idenitfying correctly as well.
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• 2003[21:56:47] <jelly> A|an: eg. I have an alias that does "x11vnc -display :0 -rfbauth ~/.vnc/passwd -localhost"
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• 2005[21:57:25] <jelly> might have two separate server tabs open and remembered for some reason
• 2006[21:57:28] <A|an> ah
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• 2010[21:58:07] <A|an> well, I'd installed it on ubuntu mate on a laptop and I didn't have to do anything extra...it just worked right outta the gate
• 2011[21:58:13] <Gigglebyte> jelly> Don't see two separate server tabs.
• 2012[21:58:15] <A|an> so the manpage, huh?
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• 2016[21:59:16] <Gigglebyte> Alan> Just curious what type of laptop you have? I am looking for another laptop and don't like the System76 I bought (Cleavo). However, it has a bright display and good features. There is insufficient driver support.
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• 2018[22:00:01] <A|an> it's an old dell n5040
• 2019[22:00:31] <jelly> A|an: if I start it from the menu, a window form named "Select x11vnc port" is opened; however it opens on second monitor for some reason
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• 2022[22:01:20] <A|an> it had win10 on it...the privious owner hated it (she's not very computer savvy) and I wiped it and installed ubuntu mate on it and it runs like a top
• 2023[22:02:04] <A|an> I'm not encountering that problem...
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• 2025[22:02:49] <A|an> oh, wait...it initially opens a dialog (very verbose, btw) indicating the port to be used...
• 2026[22:03:26] <jelly> it's a different distro, quite possible they have a saner wrapper. If you have access to that machine you can look at the process list and se how exactly they're calling x11vnc after that
• 2027[22:03:30] <A|an> you ok that, there's a lengthy pause, then it opens a second window in which you can allow certain actions...
• 2028[22:03:43] <jelly> eg. ps -fe|grep x11vnc
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• 2030[22:04:14] <A|an> yes, the wrapper...I was wondering how big a deal is it to adust that for debian's version
• 2031[22:04:25] <A|an> I can't find a config file
• 2032[22:04:31] <A|an> how's it done?
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• 2034[22:05:01] <A|an> the app works, it's just that one thing, it can't be killed easily
• 2035[22:05:32] <jelly> for me it dies right after the first session disconnects
• 2036[22:05:45] <jelly> it's also killable with ^C
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• 2038[22:06:16] <jelly> but again, I usually start it from a terminal over ssh
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• 2040[22:06:40] <A|an> I can't kill it with cntl-C
• 2041[22:06:49] <A|an> It's annoying
• 2042[22:06:55] <A|an> it works great otherwise
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• 2047[22:07:35] <A|an> second session? what do you mean?
• 2048[22:07:59] <A|an> two icons appear at the panel bar?
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• 2060[22:14:31] <A|an> jelly: I think I'll contact the package maintainer and see if he'll respond
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• 2069[22:18:45] <ws2k3> question. i have a .sh file in /etc/profile.d that sets some aliases. file has executing rights. but still after reboot the alieses are not set. what could i be doing wrong?
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• 2093[22:36:59] <ws2k3> i noticed that the allias are being set. but are not set anymore when i switch to root using sudo. how can i resolve this?
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• 2132[22:58:54] <Tom-_> ws2k3, root has a different .profile on debian, try checking /root/.profile
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• 2146[23:05:55] <n4dir> how would i configure a touchpad, the speed of the mouse ? window-manager is openbox. To me the wiki page ain't clear
• 2147[23:06:30] <n4dir> ii xserver-xorg-input-libinput
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• 2156[23:12:28] <raidghost> can i force the debian installer to merge both /efi partitions on both drives to grub?
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• 2186[23:26:56] <n4dir> i did "xinput list"; "xinput list-props 12" and then: "xinput set-prop 12 285 1" The speed of the mouse is now slightly better, but i don't get any further.
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• 2212[23:46:36] <mentor> raidghost: What do you mean by merge partitions to grub?
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• 2216[23:49:02] <outoftime> Iarfen: !ask
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• 2218[23:50:15] <Iarfen> outoftime: well, I've asked on other channels
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• 2236[23:58:54] <abuz_> h
• 2237[23:58:55] <abuz_> hi
• 2238[23:59:19] <abuz_> how can I run a -dbg kernel image?
• 2239[23:59:36] <abuz_> I installed it, but it is not added in grub
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