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24 [00:17:31] <beeman> welp?
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44 [00:40:48] <maxrazer> I upgrade to testing and I couldn't login past the lightdm window manager without installing nvidia-driver.
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57 [00:49:42] <Ke> anyone have any idea on how to prevent the load of glamoregl module on Xorg in debian buster
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59 [00:50:03] <Ke> replaced-url
60 [00:50:20] <beeman> !xorg
61 [00:50:20] <dpkg> X.Org X11 is the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2 and first included in Debian 4.0 "Etch". To install, ask me about <install x>. To configure, ask me about <xorg config>. To remove, ask about <remove x>. replaced-url
62 [00:50:34] <beeman> !xorg glamoregl
63 [00:50:44] <beeman> test
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65 [00:51:36] <Ke> beeman: thanks, but no help there
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71 [00:54:59] <Ke> I think actually I should set accelmethod to none
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75 [00:56:08] <Ke> how lovely that buster has broken manpages with unsubstituted template strings
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78 [00:56:23] <Ke> @xservername@(@appmansuffix@), @xconfigfile@(@filemansuffix@), Xserver(@appmansuffix@),
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82 [00:56:42] <Ke> in man modesetting
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85 [00:58:31] <code-with-g> need some help getting an debian iso to boot menu for GRUB with iso that is on lvm... Currently I get error that the iso can't be found, then a blank screen.
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102 [01:04:54] <dD_> Hi, I rebooted my computer, and the screen looks very dim and the text very low quality. This does not happen in while logging in. What could the problem be? It wasn't happening before.
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104 [01:05:38] <Something1> dD_, on a laptop? Brightness settings maybe?
105 [01:05:50] <Something1> code-with-g, could you rephrase that? I don understand it
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107 [01:06:18] <dD_> Something1, it's a laptop. It's not brightness, it looks almost unusable. Brighness is at the top, I can barely read this chat, had to make the text much bigger.
108 [01:06:42] <code-with-g> I'm trying to edit /etc/grub.d/40_custom to add an grub entry to boot an debian live cd iso from an lvm on my hdd
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111 [01:07:54] <code-with-g> I'm close... I have the menu entry, when I choose it, it attempts to boot, then I get a message that the iso is not found, then the screen goes blank
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118 [01:12:59] <code-with-g> similar to the examples provided here for Ubuntu and Fedora, only for debian... replaced-url
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124 [01:16:01] <havenstance> is there a way to edit a mysql database from the terminal on Debian Jessie?
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130 [01:22:12] <dD_> I think my laptpo is showing very few colors, The screen looks dimmed, and pictures look as if they were in negative (they're not ,I checked). This was after a reboot. Login screen looks perfect. What could it be?
131 [01:22:38] <maxrazer> Anyone else run Debian Testing Mate?
132 [01:22:52] <sakax> new laptop? can as well be almost broken screen
133 [01:23:11] <sakax> never seen such issue besides hardware failure dD_
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136 [01:24:59] <dD_> sakax, no, very old laptop. But my login manager looks perfect, so I don't think it's a hardware issue. In fact, it had been running fine for about 5 days straight before I had to reboot.
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195 [02:04:46] <rant> how to change the hostname on debian these days? putting it in /etc/hostname and hostname -L or w/e still work?
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203 [02:07:49] <rant> nm, its hostname -F and yeah, still works I guess
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210 [02:12:06] <greatgatsby> dpkg-reconfigure hostname?
211 [02:12:50] <greatgatsby> nm
212 [02:13:05] <rant> I'll look into that as well.. I'm just setting up a crapload of virtualboxes with debian.. and want to make different hostnames on them.. and I'm cloning so..
213 [02:13:16] <greatgatsby> I thought it used to prompt with dpkg-reconfigure... guess not
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215 [02:14:27] <rant> last night I managed to setup base-install VMs for Stretch, Buster, Sid, and Stretch Gnome and KDE VMs so far.. weighing in at about 16G so far for those 5 and a Win 3.11 VM I have
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217 [02:15:10] <rant> figured since I got the space I wanna have VMs in saved states for all the major DEs and such for testing/support purposes
218 [02:15:42] <rant> occured to me after I got underway that having a slew of VMs all with "debian" as their hostname might not be such a good idea :P
219 [02:15:57] <greatgatsby> wow, there's actually a hostnamectl from systemd: hostnamectl set-hostname foo
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221 [02:16:23] <rant> hmm.. I thought systemd might have a way of doing it.. you know if thats persistent?
222 [02:18:06] <greatgatsby> well, it overwrites /etc/hostname
223 [02:18:09] <greatgatsby> :-P
224 [02:19:04] <rant> well thats one less step then
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226 [02:19:10] <rant> I'll try remember that
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228 [02:20:17] <greatgatsby> sounds like you should start exploring some provisioning software, like ansible/terraform/etc. It's actually a lot of fun. #ansible is very friendly too.
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230 [02:20:28] <annadane> greatgatsby, fabulous book ^^
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232 [02:20:39] <rant> wth is provisioning software? :P
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234 [02:20:53] <greatgatsby> annadane, thanks! - one of my favorites
235 [02:22:14] <annadane> now i have a question, how do you switch to virtual terminals in debian in virt-manager?
236 [02:22:29] <greatgatsby> rant, I would maybe start with ansible. You would simply get a very minimal install completed. SSH running, normal user that can sudo, maybe setup passwordless sudo so you don't have to keep entering password. Then you defining any configuration past that point in a 'playbook'
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238 [02:23:25] <rant> greatgatsby: and why would I wanna do that? I don't understand the utility.. I just go to my base install, hit clone, give it a new name, boot it, apt install task-foo and viola
239 [02:23:27] <greatgatsby> rant, I almost never do any config past the initial install manually, go straight to ansible, completely reproducable.
240 [02:23:40] <rant> Im not making anything that's the same
241 [02:23:51] <rant> each VM is a different setup and I'll only have one of them
242 [02:24:01] <rant> and if I wanted another I just clone it :P
243 [02:24:22] <rant> sounds like thats more for actual deployments on large scale
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245 [02:24:54] <rant> I'm just creating local virtualboxes so I can possibly field questions on and test/file bugs on stuff I wouldnt ordinarily use personally
246 [02:24:58] <greatgatsby> also just for things you want to start with a base image and get to a particular configuration with a single command
247 [02:25:25] <greatgatsby> anyway, just letting you know. You might find it useful.
248 [02:25:25] <rant> and I want these machines to work exactly like our users machines would, being installed from normal install media
249 [02:25:48] <rant> doubtful, but good to know about anyhow I guess..
250 [02:26:05] <rant> I dont really plan on going back into tech work, so I probably wont ever need something like that
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254 [02:28:54] <rant> as of right now I'm just setting up machines for the remaining 5 DEs, and its as simple as clicking clone on my Stretch base VM, naming it accordingly, booting it, and logging in and typing apt install task-foo-desktop
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256 [02:29:55] <rant> I guesstimate it'll be about 64GB for all 10 VMs, a base for each branch and all 7 DEs in Stretch
257 [02:30:37] <rant> then I may setup a few others for misc purposes, maybe a jessie or some oldstable ones
258 [02:31:33] <rant> if I can find a copy of windows laying around I may setup a windows VM for testing or supporting things like cifs and such
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260 [02:32:27] <rant> maybe after a few years sitting here with my VMs on freenode and getting back up to speed, I may consider doing tech again at some point.. idk
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263 [02:33:02] <rant> right now I'm mostly just concerned with addressing issues with our Debian support community
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295 [03:08:17] <SyfiMalik> is buster and testing is same? I mean in sources list?
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297 [03:08:57] <maxrazer> SyfiMalik, Yes.
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300 [03:09:40] <annadane> i guess they left :/
301 [03:09:52] <annadane> was going to explain the usual track codenames not releases blah blah blah
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303 [03:10:20] <maxrazer> I'm running testing with Mate at the moment. I've been trying to decide whether to use stable or testing. I could rely on stable if all the apps I need were in flatpak.
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308 [03:11:06] <annadane> yeah kind of depends on the applications. wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian has a section on how to get newer stuff
309 [03:11:11] <annadane> of which the most obvious is backports
310 [03:11:26] <SyfiMalik> in sources list testing or buster mean same thing?
311 [03:11:26] <maxrazer> I've used backports with stable, but a lot of the stuff isn't in there.
312 [03:11:41] <annadane> SyfiMalik, yes but beware of the difference of codenames vs releases
313 [03:12:05] <maxrazer> Right now they will do the same thing.
314 [03:12:18] <annadane> if you want to track buster, put buster in your sources list, which is testing *now* but will become stable when buster releases. if you use "testing", it will always be testing and you may or may not get nasty surprises upon release
315 [03:12:24] <maxrazer> Testing will always be the latest.
316 [03:12:31] <annadane> debian generally recommends you use codenames, like buster
317 [03:12:38] <SyfiMalik> here is my sources.list. kindly guide me, I'm new to debian.
318 [03:12:38] <SyfiMalik> Fontconfig error: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/90-synthetic.conf", line 5: invalid attribute 'selector'
319 [03:12:43] <SyfiMalik> Fontconfig error: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/90-synthetic.conf", line 5: invalid attribute 'selector'
320 [03:12:48] <SyfiMalik> replaced-url
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323 [03:13:07] <annadane> yes well you're also missing the security repo
324 [03:13:20] <maxrazer> SyfiMalik, All I did was replace every word "stretch" with "testing". Most simple approach.
325 [03:13:26] <annadane> ^
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327 [03:13:31] <annadane> !stretch sources.list
328 [03:13:31] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
329 [03:13:43] <annadane> just replace stretch with testing or (preferably) buster
330 [03:13:58] <maxrazer> I also added "contrib non-free" to the end of each line too.
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332 [03:14:31] <SyfiMalik> I had same thing but mirror was slow and I did, netselect-apt to have a better mirror and it's changed to testing now
333 [03:15:01] <SyfiMalik> !buster sources.list
334 [03:15:02] <dpkg> Debian 9 "Stretch" has only just been released which means that it's a bad time for people who don't know a lot about Debian to be trying to use the 'testing' release (aka buster). If you have to ask this question, you shouldn't!
335 [03:15:04] <maxrazer> I used the default mirror during installation based on my location.
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337 [03:15:07] <kingsley> Can the bug tracking system sort bugs reported for a package by when they were opened/filed?
338 [03:15:24] <annadane> shut up, dpkg
339 [03:15:30] <maxrazer> Stretch has not just been released.
340 [03:15:31] <annadane> not particularly a fan of that factoid
341 [03:15:33] <jak2000> hi all my Box always start in recovery mode..... need type Ctrl-d for maintentance, how to fix? i do an cat /etc/fstab i try "fcks /dev/pve/root" but say its mounted.... thanks
342 [03:16:06] <maxrazer> That is a good point I've thought of too though. Very early testing releases you might be better with the current stable.
343 [03:16:17] <annadane> probably yeah
344 [03:16:19] <SyfiMalik> I have the low speed mirror
345 [03:16:41] <maxrazer> I tried XFCE on testing and it has bugs and is different.
346 [03:16:58] <maxrazer> I'm using Mate now and it seems good. It is also in backports, which was a good sign.
347 [03:17:04] <SyfiMalik> I only use i3-gaps, compiled from source
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349 [03:17:26] <SyfiMalik> testing also have backports?
350 [03:17:35] <maxrazer> no
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353 [03:17:45] <annadane> no because there's no point
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355 [03:17:50] <annadane> backports *are* taken from testing
356 [03:17:50] <maxrazer> It is just for stable. The nvidia drivers are in there. That is one big thing.
357 [03:17:59] <annadane> for use in stable
358 [03:18:15] <maxrazer> Newer nvidia drivers that is. But for nvidia driver you need contrib non-free added
359 [03:18:28] <annadane> i prefer xfce to mate, i don't really like the mate styles
360 [03:18:57] <maxrazer> I've messed with Awsome/DWM/i3 before. I was using XFCE for a long time, but it seems incomplete especially on debian testing.
361 [03:19:08] <SyfiMalik> check out this sources.list plz. replaced-url
362 [03:19:12] <maxrazer> Anoying bugs in XFCE.
363 [03:19:45] <SyfiMalik> awesome is really awesome if you know lua.
364 [03:19:48] <maxrazer> Icons that don't show up until you log in/out. Missing icons. Xscreensaver not installed by default anymore for some reason. All kinds of little things. So far I like Mate.
365 [03:20:29] <maxrazer> If I install Chocolate-doom for example with XFCE the icon will be missing, but it is fine in Mate.
366 [03:20:59] <annadane> oh i think i've noticed that actually
367 [03:21:02] <SyfiMalik> I loved mate before I wasn't a vimmer :P
368 [03:21:10] <annadane> i know pavucontrol's icon doesn't exist in the panel in debian stable
369 [03:21:11] <maxrazer> and you have to install gnome icon theme to get the launch application icon to show up in testing which is a bug.
370 [03:21:30] <maxrazer> vimmer?
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372 [03:22:02] <SyfiMalik> maxrazer: vim. as my whole i3 setup rounds on home row in keyboard
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374 [03:22:15] <SyfiMalik> all vim style keys
375 [03:22:24] <maxrazer> Oh, I didn't know you could control i3 like that.
376 [03:22:45] <SyfiMalik> with i3 you don't even need a mouse
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378 [03:23:06] <maxrazer> How does that compare to DWM? Do you need a mouse with that?
379 [03:23:09] <annadane> though actually it makes sense because pavucontrol doesn't necessarily have an icon anyway
380 [03:23:15] <SyfiMalik> I use qutebrowser so in browser you don't even need mouse.
381 [03:23:46] <maxrazer> I recently heard of a browser that doesn't need a mouse. I can't remember what it was.
382 [03:23:53] <annadane> probably that one
383 [03:23:57] <SyfiMalik> it is qutebrowser
384 [03:24:02] <SyfiMalik> available in testing
385 [03:24:07] <maxrazer> Right now I'm using Falkon or maybe Chrome/Chromium. Firefox is crazy buggy.
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387 [03:24:36] <SyfiMalik> I don't like firefox too. Its slower than chrome
388 [03:24:47] <maxrazer> Firefox causes audio distortion on my system.
389 [03:25:05] <SyfiMalik> chrome has got speed but much ram needed and no vim like control
390 [03:25:16] <maxrazer> And only old version is in stable/testing. And the binary from Mozilla has weird scrolling bug and work to setup.
391 [03:25:20] <hexa-> vimium?
392 [03:25:42] <annadane> well i just run firefox from mozilla's site extracted to a folder
393 [03:25:43] <SyfiMalik> vimium ? is that a browser?
394 [03:25:49] <maxrazer> I'm installing qutebrowser so I can try it
395 [03:26:07] <SyfiMalik> maxrazer: if you use vim, you will love it
396 [03:26:17] <maxrazer> I use vim from time to time. Not a lot.
397 [03:26:40] <SyfiMalik> you're gonna love it if you know vim
398 [03:27:19] <annadane> the problem with qutebrowser is its inability to use firefox extensions :P
399 [03:27:25] <SyfiMalik> debian doesn't have some thing like AUR?
400 [03:27:28] <annadane> otherwise i'd probably use it
401 [03:27:31] <annadane> no, no AUR
402 [03:27:38] <jak2000> hi all, how to fix: replaced-url
403 [03:28:09] <maxrazer> What engine is qutebrowser based on./ I don't see it written.
404 [03:28:10] <annadane> jak2000, dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999
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406 [03:28:17] <hexa-> jak2000: check fstab vs blkid
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408 [03:28:23] <hexa-> it can't mount a disk
409 [03:28:49] <SyfiMalik> pyqt
410 [03:28:50] <maxrazer> SyfiMalik, No, not that I know of. But I loaded up Manjaro yesterday and Debian had all the games I was looking for in the official repository and arch only had it in the AUR.
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412 [03:29:22] <GlidingHorse> i don't remember who answered me before. about the 'default application to open a file on slax' i had to add lines to /usr/share/applications/mimeapps.list
413 [03:29:52] <annadane> hmm. i like qutebrowser on the basis of its faq alone...
414 [03:30:02] <GlidingHorse> the idea of /etc/mailcap made me do some grep -nHrI..
415 [03:30:05] <maxrazer> GlidingHorse I haven't edited mime types before on linux. I have used the GUI to tell it what application to open with.
416 [03:30:08] <SyfiMalik> maxrazer: I heard debain has more packages than arch and once I came to it, I had to compile i3-gaps, polybar, qutebrowser :D
417 [03:30:24] <annadane> it has more than arch in the base
418 [03:30:31] <annadane> but with the AUR i guess it's about even
419 [03:30:39] <maxrazer> SyfiMalik, I just installed quotebrowser without compiling. It is in testing.
420 [03:30:50] <GlidingHorse> maxrazer, the thing was that xdg-open worked, but some java application didn't. like it was looking somewhere else
421 [03:30:52] <jak2000> annadane: not go to internet.... (termbin.com).
422 [03:31:04] <jak2000> <hexa-> jak2000: check fstab vs blkid ?? can you explain me more please
423 [03:31:10] <SyfiMalik> I just came to testing. I installed netboot image.
424 [03:31:20] <maxrazer> For me Gnome always causes audio stuttering without modifying the pulse audio config file.
425 [03:31:31] <maxrazer> And I have an EMU dedicated sound card.
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427 [03:31:49] <SyfiMalik> I don't like gnome or other DE btw :P
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429 [03:32:33] <SyfiMalik> even I have 8gbs ram. most of time my ram usage doesn't go above 500 mbs with browser open and working with terminals
430 [03:33:15] <maxrazer> Yeah, I'll try openbox or some other WM's again maybe. DWM seemed too obtrusive. I've tried i3 before.
431 [03:33:17] <SyfiMalik> what about arch pacman and debian apt guys?
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433 [03:33:33] <annadane> i'd go to #debian-offtopic for this kind of thing
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435 [03:34:03] <SyfiMalik> maxrazer: I'm sure you didn't read the i3 userguide :D
436 [03:34:12] <annadane> well, though i guess no one really has a question right now
437 [03:34:18] <annadane> so *shrug*
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439 [03:34:29] <maxrazer> I'm in offtopic now too
440 [03:34:44] <SyfiMalik> debian-testing is invite only?
441 [03:35:15] <hexa-> jak2000: in /etc/fstab there is a mount entry defined for a disk the system cannot find
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444 [03:35:31] <maxrazer> I didn't know about that channel. I did know about #debian-next, but never seen any activity there. That might just be for the installer.
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446 [03:36:11] <maxrazer> There is a debian buster alpha 3 iso too
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448 [03:36:26] <jak2000> i can ping the box.. but cant connect via ssh
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450 [03:36:46] <maxrazer> jak2000, so the physical layer works.
451 [03:36:52] <annadane> SyfiMalik, it's on irc.oftc.net
452 [03:36:58] <annadane> also it's #debian-next
453 [03:36:59] <SyfiMalik> do a nmap on it if 22 is open?
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455 [03:37:26] <jak2000> annadane: hexa-: maxrazer: replaced-url
456 [03:37:29] <jak2000> dmesg
457 [03:39:11] <SyfiMalik> gusy I have to reboot
458 [03:39:23] <SyfiMalik> after dist-upgrade
459 [03:39:26] <maxrazer> I'm not a sysadmin, I'm just a home user.
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464 [03:41:35] <annadane> yeah as mentioned, for debian testing support you want #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
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466 [03:42:03] <jak2000> annadane anya dvice? pls
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468 [03:43:06] <annadane> jak2000, hexa- seems to know, and you asked them to explain check fstab vs blkid, which they haven't answered yet
469 [03:43:16] <annadane> maybe because you didn't ping them with their name, which i just did
470 [03:43:19] <annadane> hexa-, ideas?
471 [03:43:26] <hexa-> 03:35 <hexa-> jak2000: in /etc/fstab there is a mount entry defined for a disk the system cannot find
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473 [03:44:02] <hexa-> it may be identified by checking fstab entries vs available partitions in blkid and comparing
474 [03:44:03] <jak2000> hexa- how to know?
475 [03:44:06] <hexa-> s/and comparing//
476 [03:44:14] <jak2000> blkid is a command?
477 [03:44:20] <hexa-> jak2000: yes
478 [03:44:34] <hexa-> jak2000: because it's waiting for dev-disk-by-uuid in your screenshot
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480 [03:46:47] <annadane> qutebrowser sucks. so many convoluted steps and no universal tar :P
481 [03:47:07] * annadane happily continues with firefox
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483 [03:47:26] <annadane> i'm half joking, i'm sure it's fine
484 [03:47:28] <maxrazer> I use Firefox on windows, but I find it bad on Linux.
485 [03:47:35] <sleepyhead> maxrazer: why?
486 [03:47:35] <annadane> just don't wanna bother rn
487 [03:47:56] <maxrazer> The versions available on Debian especailly no good choiecs.
488 [03:48:11] <maxrazer> Firefox on linux causes horrible audio distortion on my system.
489 [03:48:13] <jak2000> hexa-: replaced-url
490 [03:48:32] <hexa-> jak2000: UUID=60622827-4688-4cd5-8af3-04d3cebda9f1 /hdd1 ext4 defaults 0 2
491 [03:48:38] <hexa-> that uuid is nowhere in blkid output
492 [03:48:52] <jak2000> ok, can i do a fsck ?
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494 [03:49:03] <hexa-> no, it's missing
495 [03:49:12] <jak2000> see this image: replaced-url
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497 [03:49:56] <hexa-> the partition is just not connected to the machine
498 [03:49:58] <hexa-> maybe the disk failed
499 [03:50:02] <hexa-> or it was disconnected
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502 [03:50:53] <annadane> as i mentioned max i just use the firefox downloaded from mozilla's website, it sits in a folder in my home directory
503 [03:51:01] <annadane> 61
504 [03:51:01] <SyfiMalik> polybar: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4: version `CURL_OPENSSL_3' not found (required by polybar)
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506 [03:51:14] <SyfiMalik> after upgrading to testing
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510 [03:51:56] <jak2000> hexa-: commented on fstab and restarted server...
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513 [03:53:48] <jak2000> started!!!
514 [03:53:50] <jak2000> checking
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520 [03:58:17] <jak2000> :) thanks
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618 [05:47:51] <uriesk> hello
619 [05:48:05] <COOurb> hi
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621 [05:48:52] <uriesk> my systemd is trying to mount my encrypted swap partition as nonencrypted partition and that is annoying
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623 [05:49:51] <uriesk> i have a /etc/crypttab entry for the swap partition that looks like"sda2_crypt UUID=blablabla none luks,swap"
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625 [05:50:16] <uriesk> and /etc/fstab
626 [05:50:21] <uriesk> /dev/mapper/sda2_crypt none swap sw 0 0
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628 [05:50:33] <uriesk> but my systemd is somehow not getting that
629 [05:50:53] <uriesk> (already did update-initramfs)
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632 [05:52:26] <uriesk> on boot i get errors about how swapon is not able to read the swap header of /dev/sda and dev-sda.swap unit failed
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656 [06:08:23] <uriesk> ohhh, i found out that the GPT partition type is swap and that made systemd thinking that it should try to swapon it without decrypting
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763 [07:26:51] <SerajewelKS> why would update-grub generate an unbootable config when run from within the target system, but generate a bootable config when run from rescue mode of the install cd when chrooted into the same system?
764 [07:27:12] <SerajewelKS> every kernel update, i have to boot from the installer cd in order to generate my grub config. if i reboot without doing this, i get greeted with a grub shell.
765 [07:29:48] <SerajewelKS> if it helps, / is with an lvm, which is within a raid1
766 [07:30:12] <SerajewelKS> oddly, the installer rescue mode detects the lvm volumes even before the raid is assembled!?
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768 [07:34:54] <SerajewelKS> okay and the 4.9.0-7-amd64 kernel doesn't boot for me. "error: invalid magic number" from grub.
769 [07:35:06] <SerajewelKS> 4.9.0-6-amd64 works
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772 [07:37:22] <SerajewelKS> aha yes this issue, i remember the boot problem (not the kernel problem) -- for some reason, grub refuses to work with "set lang=en_US"
773 [07:37:29] <SerajewelKS> which is what my system generates with update-grub
774 [07:37:39] <SerajewelKS> the installer cd in rescue mode instead generates "set lang=C" which works
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794 [08:02:33] <atralheaven> Hi, I read somewhere that removing root password is not a good idea, but why? I use sudo btw. may you explain? thank you
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845 [08:47:33] <Ke> atralheaven: if you use them, it's not a good idea
846 [08:48:30] <Ke> atralheaven: note that system may become unavailable to normal users in some cases and you may mess up sudoers, if you have critical uptime requirements, you might want a recovery plan
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848 [08:49:53] <Ke> recovery plans can still fail, if they remain untested for a long period of time, imo these things are mostly a matter of taste, unless you really are doing things with care
849 [08:50:03] <Ke> cargo culting root passwd is just silly
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851 [08:50:43] <Ke> it's mostly about what iffing the likely scenarios
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858 [08:53:52] <asterismo_l> hi, how do i replace colon with space ": " characters with sed?
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860 [08:54:21] <atralheaven> I got it, thanks :)
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869 [09:00:10] <luna_> Email: ben@decadent.org.uk ? Twitter: @benhutchingsuk ? Debian: benh ? Gitweb: git.decadent.org.uk ? Github: github.com/bwhacks
870 [09:00:13] <luna_> whoops
871 [09:00:38] <luna_> replaced-url
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924 [09:47:33] <willemb> I'm having trouble getting custom configured ssh processes to start properly
925 [09:48:13] <COOurb> guys, I need help with hddtemp
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927 [09:48:24] <COOurb> why it says "active(exited)"?
928 [09:48:29] <COOurb> What does it mean?
929 [09:48:29] <willemb> some of my hosts are running systemd from jessie, some from jessie backports and some from stretch. under some circumstances, sshd-internal won't restart, because something is already listening on the port
930 [09:50:19] <aci> run a netstat so you can see the process
931 [09:51:29] <aci> netstat -ltnp | grep -w ':22'
932 [09:51:48] <aci> if you are running the standard port
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934 [10:00:44] <COOurb> While installing Debian I created RAID1, so how can I get which device is virtual RAID1 and what HDD is primary/mirrored?
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938 [10:02:02] <COOurb> also, how can I manage that raid?
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946 [10:11:10] <COOurb> ok, already foun
947 [10:11:11] <COOurb> d
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961 [10:22:53] <willemb> even if i kill -9 the process, it still doesn't want to start up
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967 [10:25:31] <COOurb> -9?
968 [10:26:25] <COOurb> try watch journalctl
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1087 [12:16:36] <gour> morning, after i put debian (sid) on my netbook, yesterday, i migrated my desktop as well (both from fedora)...so far, very pleased
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1092 [12:18:07] <jim> gour, glad you like it :) you should give #debian-next a visit, on irc.oftc.net
1093 [12:18:28] <kirk781> Debian works well as long as one enables the testing repos
1094 [12:18:38] <kirk781> Debian stable has quite old software, IMO
1095 [12:19:06] <gour> jim: ahh, i entered #debian-next yesterday and was moved here, so thought that 'next' merged :-)
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1098 [12:19:49] <jim> kirk781, and, installing binary packages from testing is -not- recommended,,, you'll contract the frankendebian disease very quickly doing that
1099 [12:20:09] <jim> kirk781, you might as well just upgrade to testing
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1102 [12:20:31] <kirk781> jim, yes, I am on debian testing.
1103 [12:20:37] <kirk781> "frankendebian", lol
1104 [12:20:55] <jim> !frankendebian
1105 [12:20:55] <dpkg> When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. Ask me about <reinstall>
1106 [12:22:13] <jim> but if you're already there, dist-upgraded and everything, package mgr workign fine, you're probably good
1107 [12:23:54] <`whoami`> so apt-pinning isn't recommended ?
1108 [12:24:02] <`whoami`> s/recommended/advised
1109 [12:24:12] <shtrb> only if you know what you are doing
1110 [12:24:32] <shtrb> jim, beware of network-manager and connectivity test
1111 [12:24:37] <`whoami`> ok, that makes sense
1112 [12:25:10] <shtrb> some installation I have had network-manager fill my disk with errors (if connected over 48 hours)
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1114 [12:26:25] <shtrb> so If you get an error about failed to do connectity checks in a loop either uninstall connectivity or restart network-manager
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1134 [12:39:51] <jim> gour, oh, I'm talking about the #debian-next from a different irc net
1135 [12:41:03] <gour> jim: yeah, i got it...have to restore my credentials for oftc
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1198 [14:05:13] <Emil> Hey
1199 [14:05:22] <Haohmaru> hai
1200 [14:05:30] <Emil> Could it be possible to have the sqlite3 package compiled with --enable-readline=yes ?
1201 [14:05:50] * Haohmaru kicks Emil into oftc
1202 [14:06:36] <shtrb> Embil get the source and rebuild ?
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1205 [14:06:54] <Emil> shtrb: sure, but it would be great if it was like that in the repos
1206 [14:07:03] <Emil> where should I make this request?
1207 [14:07:25] <shtrb> bug report with a wishlist
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1223 [14:18:50] <Reventlov> Hi. Is there a simple way to modify an install media (obtained by dding an iso on a usb card) to include som firmware? I only have a single usb media, and need to load some firmware during the installation.
1224 [14:19:44] <Emil> shtrb: hot damn the reportbug program is annoying
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1226 [14:20:07] <shtrb> Emil, you can report a bug in reportbug :D
1227 [14:20:18] <Haohmaru> hahhahah
1228 [14:20:35] <shtrb> Reventlov, why not get a new install media that already have the firmware ?
1229 [14:20:39] <shtrb> !unoffical-cds
1230 [14:20:42] <shtrb> !unoffical-cd
1231 [14:20:42] <Emil> shtrb: lol
1232 [14:20:44] <shtrb> !unofficalcd
1233 [14:20:53] <petn-randall> !firmware installer
1234 [14:20:53] <dpkg> Debian-Installer is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See replaced-url
1235 [14:20:56] <petn-randall> Reventlov: ^^^
1236 [14:21:08] <shtrb> thants petn-randall
1237 [14:21:18] <petn-randall> Oh wait, this one's better:
1238 [14:21:21] <petn-randall> !firmware images
1239 [14:21:21] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See replaced-url
1240 [14:21:26] <Reventlov> petn-randall: well, thank you :)
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1242 [14:22:09] <shtrb> Emil, you can also use email to open a bug
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1249 [14:31:55] <Emil> shtrb: I noticed someone had already requested the improvement and replied with support
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1251 [14:32:07] <Emil> (using email yeah)
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1254 [14:33:07] <shtrb> If you know anyone in Debian there is a conf maybe you could try to push it
1255 [14:33:51] <shtrb> speakinf of debconf18 , why the channel doesn't say anything about it ?
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1257 [14:34:31] <Haohmaru> c0z u need op-super-powahs to change it
1258 [14:35:04] * shtrb look at super-powered user in this channel
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1261 [14:36:08] <shtrb> nice Microsoft Logo in the video feed from debconf18
1262 [14:36:28] <petn-randall> shtrb: Because this is a Debian support channel. Debconf isn't about support.
1263 [14:36:55] <shtrb> oh common, debconf have talks that teach and show nice things
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1265 [14:37:29] <petn-randall> shtrb: If you're subscribed to any of the *-announce mailing lists, you'll have gotten a couple of mails about it by now.
1266 [14:38:58] <petn-randall> (do you mean "come on"?)
1267 [14:39:11] <shtrb> Oh I knew about it, just casually forgot we are past the start date
1268 [14:39:12] <shtrb> yes
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1278 [14:50:19] <darxmurf> is it me or clipit is not working well in testing ?
1279 [14:50:29] <darxmurf> ,v clipit
1280 [14:50:30] <judd> Package: clipit on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.4.1-1; jessie: 1.4.2-1; stretch: 1.4.2-1.2; buster: 1.4.4-2; sid: 1.4.4-2
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1296 [15:12:30] <amigojapan> hi, I am developing an electron application, I made it from the premade binary that electron offers that you just drop your page into, I did it in lubuntu, and it worked, then my friend tested it in debian and it failed with a freeze, then my other friend tested it in fedora and it froze, then I installed debian ina VM with LXDE (same as lubuntu desktop manager) and what do you think! the program ran properly, any idea how to diagnose the
1297 [15:12:30] <amigojapan> problem?
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1299 [15:12:59] <hxmuller> morning. "history -c" does not clear .bash_history, is there a different command, or do I just manually overwrite it with an empty file?
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1301 [15:14:32] <hxmuller> amigojapan: if no one answers here, there is always #electron
1302 [15:14:47] <amigojapan> hxmuller: thanks
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1304 [15:16:49] <amigojapan> hxmuller: #electron is a tiny comunity, but thanx, I asked there too
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1312 [15:24:57] <jelly> hxmuller, ask in #bash if there's no answer here :-)
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1315 [15:27:36] <hxmuller> jelly: heh, I did. thx
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1319 [15:30:20] <hxmuller> I assumed 'history -c' cleared .bash_history, but it only clears history in memory
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1337 [15:43:48] <Fox> hxmuller: history -c && history -w
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1340 [15:46:11] <msl09> how much load does a tcpdump running on a NIC does incur?
1341 [15:46:41] <hxmuller> Fox: thx, that's what I was looking for. I missed the -w switch
1342 [15:47:00] <Fox> yaw
1343 [15:48:22] <manticorpus> msl09: It's not predictable, you cannot know how much trafic you will get
1344 [15:48:43] <msl09> hmmm
1345 [15:49:06] <manticorpus> msl09: But generally is not that much, if you not have a embedded system, you will probably not have a problem
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1347 [15:49:49] <manticorpus> msl09: The main problem will be the hard-drive if you save the file.
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1378 [16:17:59] <colo-work> so there's images of stretch's kernel (linux 4.9) available in jessie LTS now, did I understand that correctly?
1379 [16:18:08] <colo-work> (_without_ backports in play)
1380 [16:19:01] <annadane> ,kernels
1381 [16:19:02] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.16.0-rc6-686 (4.16~rc6-1~exp1); sid: 4.17.0-1-686-pae (4.17.8-1); buster: 4.17.0-1-686-pae (4.17.8-1); stretch-backports: 4.17.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.17.8-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-7-686-pae (4.9.110-1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 4.9.0-0.bpo.7-686-pae (4.9.110-1~deb8u1); wheezy-backports:
1382 [16:19:03] <judd> 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-6-686-pae (3.2.102-1)
1383 [16:19:10] <annadane> seems so
1384 [16:19:24] <annadane> (also why is 4.16 in experimental?)
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1386 [16:20:37] <colo-work> any idea what's the correct (meta) package to pull that particular image in? :)
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1388 [16:21:07] <annadane> if amd64 it should just be linux-image-amd64
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1400 [16:34:29] <fr0xk> How to see the keyid in 0x673..... hex format?
1401 [16:36:48] <greycat> I don't know what a keyid is. xev shows keycodes in decimal and keysyms in hex.
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1408 [16:42:46] <fr0xk> greycat: I got this on manpage= $ gpg --list-keys --keyid-format 0xlong
1409 [16:43:24] <greycat> Oh, a gpg key. OK, well, if nobody answers here, there is a #gnupg channel.
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1416 [16:47:24] <fr0xk> greycat: Noo probs :p
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1447 [17:13:05] <jhutchins_wk> Why did nagios get dropped?
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1449 [17:13:47] <Brigo> jhutchins_wk, maybe because of icinga
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1455 [17:20:06] <jhutchins_wk> I found icinga to be unusable.
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1457 [17:25:09] <petn-randall> Wouldn't that make it RC buggy?
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1472 [17:37:56] <jhutchins_wk> One would think so. PHP coding required for functionality, it seems to be a trend (roudcube).
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1476 [17:47:02] <gigglebyte> How do I adjust the screen brightness in Debian Stretch?
1477 [17:47:44] <gigglebyte> Fn and F8 or F9 don't work.
1478 [17:48:07] <verm1n> squint.
1479 [17:48:13] <verm1n> it depends on the hardware
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1481 [17:49:18] <verm1n> do you have an acpi directory in /sys/class/backlight/ ?
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1483 [17:50:41] <Delta706> Is there a lightweight alternative to mplayer? It seems to use huge amounts of memory which playing the smallest mp3 file
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1486 [17:53:45] <gigglebyte> I am on a System76 Oryx Pro
1487 [17:55:36] <gigglebyte> vermin> I don't know. Let me take a look.
1488 [17:56:10] <gigglebyte> Currently I have this hideous blue neon that is blinding my eyes. It boots up in multicolor and then goes to the blue neon after Debian is fully booted.
1489 [17:56:22] <gigglebyte> standby
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1499 [18:03:30] <verm1n> Delta706: i like deadbeef and xmms2
1500 [18:04:01] <Delta706> Is deadbeef lightweight?
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1505 [18:05:46] <verm1n> i've never had memory problems with it
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1507 [18:07:23] <Delta706> If you have lots of memory, you will not have problems
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1510 [18:08:18] <gigglebyte> vermin> I do have a folder for /sys/class/backlight, but the backlight folder is completely empty. What is the next step?
1511 [18:08:39] <jhutchins_wk> Delta706: replaced-url
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1514 [18:09:47] <verm1n> Delta706: ... how much is "a lot" for you? Maybe do mpd so you skip gui-related costs
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1516 [18:10:43] <Delta706> It should not take 1 gig of memory just to play an mp3
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1519 [18:13:20] <jhutchins_wk> mpg123
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1524 [18:16:08] <Delta706> mpg123 uses oodles of memory
1525 [18:16:25] <Pr0metheus> I create a symlink to a directory on a mounted hard disk for storing there the images for Gnome Boxes. The problem is that when I do df (disk-free) it reports the disk usage including the images stored there. Any idea if I did something wrong or is it how it works?
1526 [18:16:38] <Delta706> by default
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1529 [18:17:55] <Delta706> I even tried -b 1024 but it reports using 432 megabytes
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1533 [18:20:04] <likcoras> Hi, I'm ussing dma with "MASQUERADE username@example.com" to forward local email to my inbox. This works fine, and I can receive most emails just fine, except those produced by sudo (eg. user not in sudoers, bad password.). Those emails are "Rejected due to unmatching envelope and header sender.". Why is this happending despite the MASQUERADE setting?
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1535 [18:21:37] <likcoras> From what I can see, the emails that do get delivered have their From: line changed to the one specified in the masquerade directive, but those produced by sudo retain the original From: line, which angers my email provider.
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1540 [18:26:03] <petn-randall> likcoras: Which masquerade setting in which daemon_
1541 [18:26:04] <petn-randall> ?
1542 [18:26:20] <likcoras> dma, in /etc/dma/dma.conf
1543 [18:27:43] <likcoras> Looking more closely at sudo docs, it mentions calling sendmail (and not mail). Could this be the reason the From: line is not overridden?
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1553 [18:35:13] <likcoras> I've managed to work around it by setting mailfrom in the sudoers file, but I'm still curious why sudo is the only thing that has this issue.
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1585 [19:24:48] <jhutchins_wk> likcoras: It probably composes the message internally and just calls sendmail to deliver it.
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1602 [19:35:59] <Kobaz> [Tue Jul 31 13:35:47 2018] VM fault (0x0c, vmid 12) at page 1048806, read from TC (72)
1603 [19:36:03] <Kobaz> getting a lot of those....
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1606 [19:37:09] <Kobaz> [Tue Jul 31 13:35:47 2018] radeon 0000:01:00.0: GPU fault detected: 146 0x0d18480c
1607 [19:37:12] <Kobaz> and that
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1615 [19:45:28] <Kottizen> Hello. I need to downgrade from the latest kernel to 4.5. How do I do that?
1616 [19:45:59] <Kobaz> 4.5 oh dear
1617 [19:46:11] <greycat> sounds like a problem for a very specific arch
1618 [19:46:33] <greycat> possibly not even Debian
1619 [19:46:40] <Kobaz> Kottizen: what distro? you may be better off building from source
1620 [19:46:58] <Kottizen> I'm running Debian as a guest system in VMware and 4.5 is apparently the last kernel where virtual E1000e network card was working.
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1622 [19:47:07] <annadane> !snapshots
1623 [19:47:07] <dpkg> replaced-url
1624 [19:47:14] <Kottizen> Debian 9.5, Kobaz
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1626 [19:47:38] <Kobaz> yeah snapshots
1627 [19:47:50] <annadane> but eww 4.5
1628 [19:48:04] <Kobaz> why would you be using kernel 4.5 on debian 9.5?
1629 [19:48:13] <Kottizen> Sorry, 4.15... replaced-url
1630 [19:48:17] <Kobaz> and why do you specifically need 4.5
1631 [19:48:18] <Kobaz> oh
1632 [19:48:26] <Kobaz> ...that makes a big difference
1633 [19:48:29] <greycat> Why are you using "virtual E1000e network card" if it's not working?
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1635 [19:49:06] <Kottizen> greycat: The other option, VMXNET 3, works with Debian but it's flawed with a bug causing the guest system to freeze after a few hours.
1636 [19:49:28] <Kobaz> To workaround this issue, use vmxnet3 type virtual network adapter.
1637 [19:49:32] <Kottizen> Kobaz: Sorry, yes, 4.15! What's the difference?
1638 [19:49:42] <greycat> This "kb" (ugh microsoft term) article says the problem STARTED in 4.15. So just use the standard 4.9 stretch kernel.
1639 [19:49:44] <Kobaz> Kottizen: 4.5 is a lot older
1640 [19:50:12] <Kobaz> Kottizen: sounds like a vmware problem...
1641 [19:51:01] <Kottizen> Ah... Hm. That's odd, then. When running with E1000e, the interface shows up in `ip link show`, but I don't seem to have any network access. How would I debug that?
1642 [19:51:26] <greycat> what kernel are you using *now*?
1643 [19:51:30] <Kottizen> Kobaz: It's a VMware problem, probably fixed in a newer version of their operating system, but I can't upgrade the host right now.
1644 [19:51:37] <apollo13> if vmxnet3 freezes the guest call your support contract
1645 [19:51:42] <Kottizen> 4.9.0-7-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.110-1 (2018-07-05) x86_64 GNU/Linux
1646 [19:51:52] <apollo13> vmxnet3 is the recommended option for esxi & debian9
1647 [19:52:06] <apollo13> that is if you are running 6.7 or 6.5
1648 [19:52:09] <Kottizen> apollo13: It's my host system and my host hardware. I just don't have the possibility of going to the data center to upgrade the host system right now.
1649 [19:52:18] <apollo13> if you are running something older don't use it
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1652 [19:52:39] <Kottizen> This is my system: replaced-url
1653 [19:52:46] <apollo13> Kottizen: well yes, sure it's yours; but still bugs are going to get fixed by vmware if you are using a supported configuration
1654 [19:52:51] <Kobaz> Kottizen: same way you would debug any other network issue... start with checking ip/routing/netmask, interface connected status, then do tcpdump and check for traffic passing
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1656 [19:53:35] <Kottizen> Kobaz: The thing is, if I reboot with VMXNET 3 as adapter, everything works without me having to reconfigure anything.
1657 [19:53:54] <apollo13> Kottizen: open a vmware support ticket
1658 [19:54:00] <Kobaz> yeah sounds like a vmware issue
1659 [19:54:07] <apollo13> people in the debian channel will hardly have an idea what vmware is doing
1660 [19:54:26] <Kobaz> agreed
1661 [19:54:31] <apollo13> they list it as supported configurtion, so use their support. this is why you are paying them money
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1663 [19:55:15] <Kottizen> apollo13: I'm actually not paying them; the servers I have are merely for hobby purposes... I guess I'll have to upgrade the host system, then! It should be done anyway.
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1667 [19:55:53] <apollo13> well if it is for hobby purposes it is not worth to investigate much work in it if you are not on the newest release
1668 [19:56:07] <apollo13> especially with "new" systems like debian 9 hypervisors need some time to adjust
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1676 [19:57:54] <apollo13> if you still have a problem once you are on the latest esxi 6.7 update, then by all means we can talk.
1677 [19:57:59] <apollo13> but before that it is wasted time
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1679 [19:58:21] <Kottizen> I understand. Thank you! I'll return if the issue persists when I'm on the latest ESXi.
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1691 [20:06:36] <jhutchins_wk> apollo13: Actually, I think quite a few of us run servers on VMWare professionally.
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1695 [20:07:07] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i installed rkhunter, i am attempting to do an update
1696 [20:07:11] <Psil0Cybin> and i get this error messsage
1697 [20:07:22] <Psil0Cybin> bin false
1698 [20:07:30] <apollo13> jhutchins_wk: yes, professionally on an updated and supported level by vmware
1699 [20:09:20] <apollo13> hell, I've even been fighting vmware the whole day on teaming issues with CDP
1700 [20:09:35] <apollo13> 6.7 ftw :/
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1808 [21:19:45] <jak2000> how to get macadress ?
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1811 [21:20:26] <greycat> ip link
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1814 [21:21:23] <mntmn> hi, i'm struggling with getting multistrap to work. config: replaced-url
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1816 [21:21:28] <jak2000> thx
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1819 [21:21:59] <mntmn> (i'm trying to bootstrap an armhf debian sid in to a directory on an amd64 debian buster/sid host)
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1821 [21:22:46] <mntmn> how can i tell multistrap about the debian source pubkeys?
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1826 [21:30:33] <mntmn> ah, fixed it. the problem was, ironically, noauth=true, which seems to be a dysfunctional option
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1833 [21:34:27] <shdeuce> Good evening. I'm not smart enough to find the link to a Debian oldstable (Jessie) image. Could you guide me?
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1836 [21:35:07] <greycat> !archive
1837 [21:35:07] <dpkg> somebody said archive was a collection of files. 'tar', 'ar', 'cpio' are all archiving tools. This is *not* the same as compression, which is a separate operation. Debian Archives is the repository for old Debian releases, see replaced-url
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1839 [21:37:04] <shdeuce> Awesome. Thanks.
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1847 [21:40:47] <shdeuce> Oh, I could have used the search function. I didn't see it at first, but "jessie iso" yields results as well.
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1870 [21:55:07] <Gigglebyte> Can someone provide me guidance and resetting my username password? I can't login and apparently my password file has become corrupted.
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1872 [21:55:47] <greycat> dpkg: I forgot root's password
1873 [21:55:47] <dpkg> For GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt.
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1877 [21:57:35] <greycat> If you only forgot a regular user's password, you can login as root (on a virtual console, e.g. Ctrl-Alt-F2) and run "passwd username" to reset it, assuming your "corruption" was not true.
1878 [21:57:40] <Gigglebyte> dpkg gave me instructions for root lockout, but I think my problem is just the username and startup.
1879 [21:57:40] <dpkg> Gigglebyte: what are you talking about?
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1881 [21:57:49] <greycat> If the file is really corrupted, you will probably have to restore it from a backup, or fix it by hand.
1882 [21:57:54] <Gigglebyte> I am trying to reset the username password
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1884 [21:58:32] <Gigglebyte> greycat> How do I fix it by hand? I see a lot of instructions online for regaining the root password, but nothing jumps out at me for resetting the user password.
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1887 [21:59:18] <greycat> Does "passwd username" work or not?
1888 [22:00:25] <Gigglebyte> greycat> passwd for username doesn't work at bootup.
1889 [22:01:01] <greycat> Login as root on Ctrl-Alt-F2 and run the command "passwd" with a single argument which is the user's login name.
1890 [22:01:11] <greycat> e.g. passwd joe
1891 [22:01:27] <Gigglebyte> standby
1892 [22:03:22] <Gigglebyte> greycat> That brought up the boot menu and not the command line. I think F2 normally pulls up the boot menu on here so I will retry your instructions.
1893 [22:03:31] <greycat> So you haven't BOOTED yet?
1894 [22:04:01] <greycat> If you only want to change a regular user's password, NOT root's password, then just boot normally.
1895 [22:04:14] <Gigglebyte> I haven't booted and can't get in. Alt Ctrl F2 brings up the boot menu at bootup, but F2 normally brings this up as well.
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1899 [22:04:42] <Gigglebyte> greycat> I can't boot nornally and can't get in. I am locked out
1900 [22:04:50] <greycat> WHY can't you boot?
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1904 [22:05:21] <Gigglebyte> I don't know. I think something got corrupted somewhere. System isn't recognizing my username and password combination.
1905 [22:06:16] <Gigglebyte> I selected "e" at boot and now have a set of lines that start with setparams "Debian GNU/Linux'
1906 [22:06:41] <Gigglebyte> Is this the correct place to be to reset the password at bootup?
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1910 [22:07:39] <greycat> You don't seem to understand what "boot" means. "Boot" means you turn the computer on and then wait a bit, and it loads the operating system from storage media and then you get a login prompt.
1911 [22:08:02] <Gigglebyte> the password doesn't work at the login prompt
1912 [22:08:12] <greycat> If you only want to change a REGULAR USER'S PASSWORD then you boot ^^^ and then you do what I said before.
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1914 [22:08:21] <greycat> Do you know ROOT'S PASSWORD?
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1916 [22:08:45] <Gigglebyte> greycat> I know root's password. And what you suggested before brought up the bios
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1919 [22:09:28] <greycat> 16:01 greycat> Login as root on Ctrl-Alt-F2 and run the command "passwd" with a single argument which is the user's login name.
1920 [22:09:31] <greycat> 16:01 greycat> e.g. passwd joe
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1934 [22:15:41] <Gigglebyte> well it worked, and I am in. Thanks.
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1958 [22:30:51] <argoneus> hello, this might not really be a debian specific question but: I have a debian VPS and I'd like to use it as a tunnel for my desktop, kinda like a VPN, what is the easiest software I can look into that does this? my desktop is windows
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1961 [22:32:42] <sussudio> meh... random cronjob somehow caused a kernel panic. may have had something to do with the 38C temperature in the room at the time.
1962 [22:33:31] <sussudio> argoneus: a google search will probably tell you openvpn.
1963 [22:33:54] <argoneus> yeah I found a bunch, expressvpn, openvpn etc.
1964 [22:34:14] <Gigglebyte> Can someone provide guidance on what I need to do to get rid of error "user" not found in sudoer's file? Error shows up when trying to run an apt-get command ot install a program. I looked online and it looks like sudoers.d is a directory, and it says entries need to start with 0440.
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1968 [22:34:56] <Gigglebyte> What would be the correct syntax for modifying the sudoer's file?
1969 [22:35:00] <greycat> If you want to use sudo, add yourself to the sudo group.
1970 [22:35:07] <greycat> Don't touch the sudoers file.
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1981 [22:42:06] <Gigglebyte> greycat> I followed instructions found here replaced-url
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1984 [22:44:34] <Gigglebyte> greycat> I just hit return and the temp file went away, and now the apt-get install command appears to be working.
1985 [22:44:44] <greycat> Don't follow instructions from other operating systems. If you want to use sudo on Debian, add yourself to the sudo group, then log out and back in.
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1988 [22:45:27] <greycat> Debian's sudoers file ships with "%sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL" already in it.
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1999 [22:51:59] <skapata> It would be better to solve this, but if at least I could disable this verbosity, it will be good for now.
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2003 [22:53:49] <Gigglebyte> incidentally my backlight function keys quit working once I installed Debian stable.
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2018 [23:07:29] <janolap1> Hi there, I'm on a debian 4.9.65 on a Toshiba Satelitte A110. Everything is working except USB. When I plug a usb mouse or a usb drive, or a usb device (arduino) nothing is detected... Any ideas ?
2019 [23:07:44] <Brigo> janolap1, 4.9?
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2021 [23:07:57] <greycat> some people report their kernel version as if it were their debian version
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2023 [23:08:09] <Brigo> greycat, ah.
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2025 [23:08:26] <janolap1> Brigo : Sorry, not 4.9
2026 [23:08:36] <Brigo> janolap1, does the system detects the usb controller?
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2030 [23:09:56] <janolap1> Brigo : The lsub command gives : replaced-url
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2032 [23:10:47] <Brigo> janolap1, something not working there, check logs
2033 [23:10:52] <janolap1> Brigo : Debian version is 9.5
2034 [23:11:04] <janolap1> Brigo : dmesg ?
2035 [23:11:34] <bogus-> yes
2036 [23:11:54] <janolap1> bogus and Brigo : : replaced-url
2037 [23:11:55] <greycat> janolap1: if he's really still on kernel 4.9.65 then he may not be on 9.5
2038 [23:11:58] <bogus-> the satelite a110 is quite a piece of antique right?
2039 [23:12:00] <Brigo> i would use systemd -b and search for usb
2040 [23:12:18] <janolap1> bogus : yes :-) antique !
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2042 [23:13:27] <bogus-> what happens to dmesg when you plugin the mouse?
2043 [23:13:38] <bogus-> and are there no ports disabled in bios or something?
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2045 [23:14:26] <greycat> janolap1: oh, you're the ... never mind. Well, your kernel version and your Debian point release version are slightly out of alignment, but it's not by much.
2046 [23:14:30] <janolap1> bogus- : usb mouse plugged in, and nothing in dmesg...
2047 [23:14:39] <Brigo> the ports and the hub are detected.
2048 [23:15:05] <janolap1> Do you want me to check the bios ?
2049 [23:15:37] <janolap1> or anything else ?
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2051 [23:17:50] <bogus-> the device is working on other computers?
2052 [23:18:11] <janolap1> Brigo and bogus- : I'm running apt-get update and apt-get upgrade right now
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2056 [23:19:17] <janolap1> Debian version is 9.5 and kernel version is : 4.9.0-4-686-pae
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2058 [23:20:08] <janolap1> Brigo and bogus- : I'm going nto the bios to check if something is desactivated, and I will come back soon
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2060 [23:20:54] <Brigo> janolap1, you can try this too: replaced-url
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2067 [23:28:00] <janolap1> I'm back ! I think I have a idea of my issue. To make this old and antique PC work in debian, I use the grub option pnpbios=off...
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2072 [23:30:41] <bogus-> janolap1, have you seen Brigo's suggestion?
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2075 [23:31:13] <janolap1> bogus- : no, I was in the bios...
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2077 [23:31:25] <janolap1> bogus- : can you copy/paste it again ?
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2081 [23:34:28] <bogus-> <Brigo> janolap1, you can try this too: replaced-url
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2083 [23:36:15] <janolap1> bogus- : I'm pretty sure that the pnpbios=off option in grub is the problem...
2084 [23:36:40] <Brigo> janolap1, it could be.
2085 [23:37:02] <janolap1> I'm trying to reboot without it... I'll be back !
2086 [23:37:03] <Brigo> janolap1, stop the grub booting and push e for edit the kernel line.
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2097 [23:51:16] <skapata> Can I disable X log messages?
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