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• 7[00:03:11] <p0lyph3m> chibill: you can still create 2 volume groups , one for each drive , but just in case later youd prefer space over performance you gen rearrange
• 8[00:03:37] <p0lyph3m> with partitions only you dont have that flexibility
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• 24[00:10:18] <Keijo__> Hi, where do I get up-to-date documentation on postgresql?
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• 32[00:13:17] <darsie> Keijo__: try #postgresql
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• 46[00:21:31] <chibill> Any suggestions on how to isntall a package that isn't in stable yet?
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• 52[00:22:52] <p0lyph3m> chibill: buildfrom source ; dont mix packages from other releases/distros
• 53[00:24:00] <chibill> I am still confused why its so hard for packages to get into stable. Like if the package is over a year old its proably obselete by now. (Or in this case unsupported)
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• 55[00:24:05] <p0lyph3m> or use backports if package exists
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• 57[00:24:52] <chibill> looking for gpredict at least version 2. as Version 1 is basically unsupported.
• 58[00:24:54] <p0lyph3m> use ubuntu they include bleeding edge
• 59[00:25:11] <chibill> ubuntu don't even have it in stable.
• 60[00:25:14] <p0lyph3m> satcom ?
• 61[00:25:33] <p0lyph3m> SO-50 ?
• 62[00:26:03] <chibill> Yea. To get 2 on ubuntu you need to add the authors PPA. SO-50 is nice.
• 63[00:26:05] <chibill> :P
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• 68[00:28:18] <chibill> I would use it from thier PPA but my install doesn't like it for some wierd reason.
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• 70[00:29:02] <p0lyph3m> dont do it , cant u build it from source ?
• 71[00:29:18] <chibill> I can. I am working on that. Need to wait for it to download.
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• 74[00:29:58] <chibill> Also any idea what an AppImage is?
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• 76[00:31:37] <p0lyph3m> nop
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• 78[00:32:37] <chibill> Its some weird linux thing appearently hm what ever its source building time xD
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• 81[00:36:05] <p0lyph3m> building it right nowfrom source
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• 83[00:37:07] <__m4ch1n3__> appimage is a single file with virtual filesystem in it, on this filesystem is a program or a game and all libs that the program game needs
• 84[00:37:35] <__m4ch1n3__> its lil bit like window and its dlls but in one file
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• 86[00:38:05] <__m4ch1n3__> appimage is a executable
• 87[00:38:12] <__m4ch1n3__> 1 file all in it
• 88[00:39:56] <p0lyph3m> it runs , but then again it dies because of missing pixmaps
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• 91[00:41:45] <p0lyph3m> if i run it as root ,it works
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• 93[00:42:26] <p0lyph3m> thats my system , lot of progs dont run as nurmluser because of missing gtk stuff themes/pixmaps
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• 113[00:46:21] <hypn0> you have to set appimages to execute first
• 114[00:47:02] <gavit> I just did a fresh install of debian 9, I am able to ping 8.8.8.8, I placed that as nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf, but am not able to ping google.com
• 115[00:47:11] <p0lyph3m> hypn0: me ?
• 116[00:47:24] <hypn0> like chmod a+x Subsurface*.AppImage
• 117[00:47:41] <hypn0> yeah you I guess :-/
• 118[00:47:50] <mtn> gavit: are you using networkmanager?
• 119[00:48:10] <p0lyph3m> no, build it from source
• 120[00:48:11] <gavit> how can I check
• 121[00:48:30] <mtn> gavit: are you using a de, like gnome or xfce?
• 122[00:48:37] <gavit> mtn: console
• 123[00:48:51] <mtn> gavit: ah, then did you install networkmanager?
• 124[00:48:53] <hypn0> built an appimage
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• 126[00:49:04] <gavit> mtn: just the basics for a minimal install
• 127[00:49:18] <hypn0> why not just statically compile :-/
• 128[00:49:27] <gavit> can;t I check if a service is up like network manager?
• 129[00:49:33] <mtn> gavit: ok, I don't run mine that way, I always use networkmanager
• 130[00:49:55] <p0lyph3m> hypn0: no , just the program, didnt do anythingwith appimage
• 131[00:50:12] <p0lyph3m> ... but good to know :)
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• 136[00:51:23] <gavit> mtn: my interface is declared in /etc/network/interfaces, so it shouldn't manage it according to the wiki replaced-url
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• 139[00:52:47] <mtn> gavit: if you are using networkmanager, let it set your dns
• 140[00:52:50] <p0lyph3m> gavit: NM overwrites resolv.conf ; set it to be inmutable chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
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• 144[00:53:34] <gavit> p0lyph3m: the contents seem fine
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• 146[00:53:45] <gavit> I'll just perform a reinstall and see if I notice something weird
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• 154[00:57:47] <p0lyph3m> gavit: use nmtui to set up your interface/connection
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• 157[01:01:42] <gavit> p0lyph3m: it wasnt installed
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• 179[01:12:44] <mac`> need help config the grub i m using 2.6.32-042stab127.2 i did install vmlinuz-4.9.0-6-amd64
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• 186[01:15:13] <threader> build-sumple-cdd fails with code 255 reprepro updating package lists aptmethod got ' snapshot.deb.org/2018blah/dist/unstable/InRelease ' and fails wit a 404 not found ipv6 addr
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• 188[01:15:48] <blackflow> mac`: that makes zero sense.
• 189[01:15:52] <jfloren> We are hosting our own Debian package repo which has worked fine in the past. I updated some debs. Now installing a deb from the repo via apt-get fails (post-installation script returned error exit status 30) but installing with dpkg -i works
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• 191[01:16:00] <jfloren> same file on the repo or locally for dpkg
• 192[01:16:03] <jfloren> any ideas
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• 197[01:20:24] <themill> jfloren: unless the postinst is fiddling with the error codes, errno 30 is that the filesystem has gone readonly, either deliberately or because of errors
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• 201[01:20:43] <jfloren> themill whoa, that's weird
• 202[01:20:48] <themill> threader: that doesn't look like a real error message
• 203[01:21:04] <themill> jfloren: check the output of "mount"
• 204[01:21:17] <jfloren> nope, it's mounted rw
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• 206[01:21:33] <themill> all filesystems including /tmp ?
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• 208[01:22:12] <jfloren> /sys/fs/cgroup is the only one mounted ro
• 209[01:22:20] <jfloren> and I can install other packages
• 210[01:22:26] <jfloren> just not these packages I myself control
• 211[01:22:48] <themill> probably worth looking at the maintainer scripts then
• 212[01:22:48] <jfloren> I may have screwed up the postinst somehow, but I can't figure out how to tell what command caused it to return 30
• 213[01:23:11] <themill> adding "set -x" to the maintainer scripts will help
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• 216[01:25:30] <jfloren> I modified the on-disk postinst script and ran dpkg --configure -a
• 217[01:25:35] <jfloren> saw this:
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• 220[01:25:54] <jfloren> + exec /usr/share/debconf/frontend /var/lib/dpkg/info/gravwell-network-capture.postinst configure
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• 222[01:25:57] <jfloren> dpkg: error processing package gravwell-network-capture (--configure):
• 223[01:25:57] <dpkg> jfloren: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin).
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• 251[01:42:21] <threaders> themill,
• 252[01:42:25] <threaders> 2018-07-12 00:13:29 ERROR reprepro: updating package lists: '404 Not Found [IP: 2001:630:206:4000:1a1a:0:c13e:ca1b 80]'
• 253[01:42:25] <threaders> 2018-07-12 00:13:29 ERROR reprepro: updating package lists: aptmethod got 'replaced-url
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• 255[01:43:41] <threaders> using and older mirror :
• 256[01:43:44] <threaders> 2018-07-11 23:13:04 ERROR verify gpg signature: gpg: Signature made Thu 01 Sep 2016 00:05:20 CEST
• 257[01:43:44] <threaders> 2018-07-11 23:13:04 ERROR verify gpg signature: gpg: using RSA key AED4B06F473041FA
• 258[01:43:44] <threaders> 2018-07-11 23:13:04 ERROR verify gpg signature: gpg: Can't check signature: No public key
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• 260[01:44:23] <jfloren> themill: removing "Depends: libpcap0.8" seems to have done it... I'd made that change recently
• 261[01:44:27] <threaders> just now :
• 262[01:44:28] <jfloren> in the control file
• 263[01:44:29] <threaders> 2018-07-12 01:43:48 ERROR reprepro: updating package lists: aptmethod error receiving 'replaced-url
• 264[01:44:29] <threaders> 2018-07-12 01:43:48 ERROR reprepro: updating package lists: '404 Not Found [IP: 2a04:4e42:14::204 80]'
• 265[01:44:29] <threaders> 2018-07-12 01:43:48 ERROR reprepro: updating package lists: aptmethod got 'replaced-url
• 266[01:44:29] <threaders> 2018-07-12 01:43:48 ERROR reprepro: updating package lists: aptmethod got 'replaced-url
• 267[01:44:31] <threaders>
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• 269[01:44:39] <jfloren> I don't know why that would screw it up though, I thought it'd be fine
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• 278[01:47:03] <threaders> themill, i tried adding APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated=true
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• 280[01:50:20] <threaders> trying -o Acquire::ForceIPv4-true now
• 281[01:52:08] <threaders> had to alter polkit too for ppc, --runtime not supported by systemctl or whatever
• 282[01:52:21] <threaders> and gimp had dep issues
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• 284[01:52:47] <threaders> but as of 0707 18 i've got a perfect ppc distro now
• 285[01:53:32] <jfloren> Anyone? Thoughts why adding "Depends: libpcap0.8" to my control file might make the install fail?
• 286[01:53:45] <jfloren> replaced-url
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• 315[02:11:12] <threaders> themill, reprepro update unstable
• 316[02:11:12] <threaders> Error: unknown key '6FB2A1C265FFB764'!
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• 369[02:45:12] <flyback> has anyone heard klowner speak in a while?
• 370[02:45:21] <flyback> this is one of the channels he hangs in from my google searching
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• 384[02:56:54] <jalt> Hi, is there a way to make apt-get show only warnings/errors? apt-get install -qq -o=Dpkg::Use-Pty=0 <packages> does not work, as the underlying dpkg emits a ton of setting up, packing, unpacking etc. messages.
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• 393[03:06:46] <rustbuckett> threaders: is that key listed if you do 'gpg --list-keys'
• 394[03:07:24] <rustbuckett> threaders: wouldn't you just use 'gpg --receive-keys'?
• 395[03:08:28] <threaders> rustbuckett, apparently not that easy when using snapshots
• 396[03:09:25] <rustbuckett> threaders: hm. okay.
• 397[03:09:28] <threaders> found an option for reprepro to ignore keys, but not missing
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• 417[03:24:38] <yaymuffins> Hello, I'm having somewhat of an issue, my previous system was fully encrypted but not my new one, I'm trying to migrate the drive to the new, but the things is that data HDDs were encrypted using a key file.
• 418[03:25:14] <yaymuffins> I cannot simply copy the file as raw in the new machine, as it would defeat the advantages of encryptions
• 419[03:25:55] <yaymuffins> I created a encrypted (with a passkey) disk image containing the keyfiles and transfered that, but here the issue, I don't know how to mount that at boot
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• 421[03:26:34] <yaymuffins> in theory I'd say crypttab, except that there already others disks in crypttab, and I need to first mount the disk image, not only open it.
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• 423[03:32:04] <threaders> themill, nogo reprepro --ignore expiredkey update unstable Error: unknown key '8B48AD6246925553'!
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• 446[03:51:06] <chibill> question how would I install libcurl-dev 7.19 or later? When I try to apt-get install it it says its a virtual package and to install one of the following. Which I installed one of them and libcurl-dev is still not present.
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• 452[03:55:48] <michael2> try installing any of these:
• 453[03:56:35] <michael2> libcurl4-gnutls-dev
• 454[03:56:37] <michael2> libcurl4-nss-dev
• 455[03:56:39] <michael2> libcurl4-openssl-dev
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• 463[04:04:52] <Li> which debian version armel|arm64|armhf to be used on raspberry pi 3?
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• 465[04:09:03] <SwedeMike> Li: replaced-url
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• 483[04:24:04] <rustbuckett> threader: try 'gpg --keyserver pgpkeys.mit.edu --recv-key 6FB2A1C265FFB764 && gpg -a --export 6FB2A1C265FFB764 | sudo apt-key add -'
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• 522[05:10:41] <LiENUS> i'm using the nvidia driver, i have my system hooked up to a 1080 monitor if i set resolution to 1080 in nvidia-settings it works but as soon as i restart xorg its back to 720
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• 535[05:20:12] <LiENUS> weird xrandr says its connected at 1280x720... specs for the tv say its 1080p...
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• 637[07:32:58] <halt> Morning all, I'm looking for a way to strip down to bear minimum my debian based docker container as part of the build aka in the docker file
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• 639[07:34:29] <halt> I seen few tricks around cleaning up the apt cache and etc, but I was hoping for more, I mean building on debian is handy due to the dpkg / apt and etc but the size is just too big
• 640[07:34:30] <annadane> why is apt not downgrading packages from backports to stable? i do apt -t stretch install libgl1 libgl1-mesa-dri libglapi-mesa and it just tells me they're already the latest version
• 641[07:36:02] <halt> annadane: try it with "apt-get install --reinstall"
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• 643[07:36:47] <halt> but first check with "apt-cache show policy" that you have the pinning right
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• 646[07:37:24] <halt> my bad it's "apt-cache policy"
• 647[07:37:45] <annadane> apt-cache policy instead of install --reinstall?
• 648[07:37:55] <annadane> sorry, i may have missed a line, i restarted the display manager
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• 650[07:38:14] <annadane> last i saw was "try it with reinstall" followed by "my bad it's..."
• 651[07:39:28] <annadane> anyway, i did apt install --reinstall those packages, and it still gives me the same problems
• 652[07:40:37] <annadane> replaced-url
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• 655[07:41:57] <jim> hi... what would I install to get a midisport working? got it plugged into usb, no lights
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• 658[07:44:17] <jim> oh, there's a midisport-firmware pkg
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• 660[07:44:38] <halt> annadane: the policy line I wrote just to confirm before you run the reinstall
• 661[07:45:00] <annadane> ah well too late :P
• 662[07:45:08] <annadane> anyway it changed nothing
• 663[07:45:33] <jim> came right up :)
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• 665[07:47:37] <annadane> apt install libglx-mesa0/stretch E: Release 'stretch' for 'libglx-mesa0' was not found
• 666[07:47:40] <annadane> um...
• 667[07:49:10] <annadane> there's a package in my autoremove, i wonder if it's conflicting or something
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• 669[07:52:28] <annadane> oh let me just try aptitude
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• 672[07:53:01] <annadane> libglapi-mesa is already installed at the requested version (17.3.9-1~bpo9+1) um... no... i said stretch, not stretch-backports
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• 678[07:58:39] <annadane> not even a "can't downgrade to stable because such and such conflicts" just "oh you're already at the latest version"
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• 680[07:58:48] <annadane> ?????????
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• 686[08:07:19] <annadane> ah well never mind, i'll fix it myself
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• 688[08:07:53] <annadane> what i probably have to do is downgrade the packages that got upgraded as a result of the initial backport install
• 689[08:08:02] <annadane> and then downgrade the others
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• 695[08:11:14] <__m4ch1n3__> i understand, a up-down-up-down-up-downgrade
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• 797[09:39:51] <TS710> Can anyone help with this error, trying to make the driver for my wifi card. ( replaced-url
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• 801[09:44:41] <__m4ch1n3__> duno the source seems to be uncompatible with your system, but rtl driver is part of kernel, you can download kernel source with apt and there is also a way to compile partial only the driver from kernel source
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• 809[09:45:47] <__m4ch1n3__> do you want do hack/mode the driver or is the driver not working?
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• 813[09:46:04] <xsisec> Hi everyone I wonder if someone know a dc++ client for debian that supports tls 1.2?
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• 815[09:46:34] <TS710> according to the wiki its the only compatible linux driver, i had it working on my raspberry pi running kali aswell, just trying to get it working in general.
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• 818[09:47:04] <__m4ch1n3__> your system should have already the driver installed, if it is not working the n your missing firmware from non-free repository
• 819[09:47:12] <TS710> replaced-url
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• 821[09:47:35] <jim> xsisec, maybe a first cut, apt-cache search dc++
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• 825[09:49:23] <__m4ch1n3__> TS710, do you have contrib and non-free in your sources.list?
• 826[09:49:37] <__m4ch1n3__> if yes try "apt-get install firmware-realtek"
• 827[09:49:41] <TS710> yes
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• 832[09:51:39] <__m4ch1n3__> and if you have it installed, unplug and plug wifi to usb
• 833[09:52:19] <TS710> its building modules. Any ideas on the "MediaTek MT7610U" chipset?
• 834[09:53:29] <__m4ch1n3__> no not rly, but used to have a rtl8.. duno driver in the past
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• 838[09:54:18] <TS710> Cool so the realtek cards working. Thanks.
• 839[09:54:31] <__m4ch1n3__> you wolcome :)
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• 842[09:55:39] <TS710> actually really glad its like that in apt-get, I remember years ago getting a BCM43 wireless card working on gentoo.... having to use ndiswrapper and stuff such a hassle...
• 843[09:56:46] <__m4ch1n3__> na thats long over :) drivers are all part of kernel, but the unfree firmware connot be shipped with driver, debian has rly every driver and firmware i ever needed
• 844[09:57:02] <__m4ch1n3__> there is a iso with non-free firmware
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• 846[09:58:01] <__m4ch1n3__> if u install from that iso the firmwares are installed and all runs out of the box replaced-url
• 847[09:58:15] <__m4ch1n3__> after installation
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• 849[09:59:01] <OSXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> hi
• 850[09:59:11] <__m4ch1n3__> hi
• 851[09:59:21] <OSXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> how do u do ?
• 852[09:59:33] <__m4ch1n3__> not bad and you :)
• 853[09:59:38] <OSXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> nice
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• 855[09:59:47] <OSXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> oh no
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• 857[09:59:58] <OSXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> hieb0t
• 858[10:00:08] <babilen> OSXXXXXXXXXXXXXX: Do you require help?
• 859[10:00:12] <OSXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> eb0t*
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• 862[10:00:37] <OSXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> for ?
• 863[10:00:51] <OSXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> help for what ?
• 864[10:01:19] <OSXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> i am ofcourse i am new here
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• 866[10:01:39] <__m4ch1n3__> :) sure
• 867[10:01:42] <babilen> This is a Debian support channel. If you do not require help with a particular problem, then please remain silent. There are chat channels such as ##chat or the various -offtopic ones
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• 872[10:02:40] <Haohmaru> if you break the rules you'll get moved to /dev/jail
• 873[10:02:43] <OSXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> thunderbird huh?
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• 875[10:03:04] <Thunderbird05> see
• 876[10:03:23] <__m4ch1n3__> btw aircrack-ng got few weeks ago a shitload on updates after a decade there was no activity
• 877[10:03:40] <Thunderbird05> me , are u talking to me babilen ?
• 878[10:03:56] <babilen> I was, yes. Please heed my advice
• 879[10:03:57] <Thunderbird05> Haohmaru ?
• 880[10:04:03] <Haohmaru> yes, me too
• 881[10:04:25] <Thunderbird05> ohk i will follow your rules
• 882[10:04:36] <Thunderbird05> both of your's
• 883[10:04:39] <Haohmaru> do you know what Debian is?
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• 893[10:05:37] <Haohmaru> ah, he's on kali linux.. supposedly
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• 895[10:05:51] <babilen> Thunderbird05: Feel free to continue chatting in one of the offtopic or chat channels. I'd also recommend to read up on Debian and IRC in general.
• 896[10:05:56] <babilen> Well, lets move on
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• 902[10:07:15] <halt> Morning again, I was here few hours ago but I guess it was too early, so let's try it now, is there any way to strip down a debian docker image at the end of the build and keeping only the must have, for example create a white-list of commands/ packages / folders which should be kept but the rest goes to the bin, the issue is that the alpine images are super small comparing to the debian based but I still want to keep the debian, anyone done something li
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• 905[10:09:32] <babilen> halt: Did you take a look at the official Debian images and their Dockerfiles?
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• 907[10:09:57] <babilen> replaced-url
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• 910[10:10:49] <babilen> stable-slim might be of particular interest
• 911[10:10:52] <halt> babilen: yes and I found the slim versions and that's what I'm using but that is still too big, I mean I don't need apt, dpgk and etc in the image after it was built, I want to use them while building but the end of the build just wipe it clean
• 912[10:11:28] <babilen> I'd argue that it wouldn't be much of a Debian image without apt/dpkkg/...
• 913[10:11:53] <babilen> But sure, remove whatever you don't need in your own Dockerfile based on FROM:debian...
• 914[10:12:20] <babilen> Not aware of any scripts that minimise those further though
• 915[10:12:34] <halt> yes that is the idea, the question is the "how?"
• 916[10:13:02] <babilen> apt purge PKG1 PKG2 ...
• 917[10:13:41] <halt> OK that's what I thought, I found few project which grabs existing containers and then cherry pick the useful bits but I want to put this into the Dockerfile
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• 919[10:13:53] <babilen> That wouldn't really allow you to remove those essentials though
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• 921[10:14:14] <babilen> What are you actually trying to achieve?
• 922[10:14:41] <halt> purge yes, that works till you get to the core bits, at least not in a non-interactive mode, as you have to type the "Yes, do as I say!" do get anywhere with the cores
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• 924[10:15:33] <babilen> I mean .. why not use FROM:scratch or FROM:alpine, perform a multi stage build in which you bake your final minimal image in multiple stages in such a way that the last stage does not contain your development/build environment, but only runtime dependencies
• 925[10:16:09] <halt> the goal ...
• 926[10:16:09] <halt> 1) I want to stay in the comfort of the debian packages, and builds as a src
• 927[10:16:09] <halt> 2) Keep the build size as minimal as possible
• 928[10:16:09] <halt> 3) Do the minimization as part of the standard docker build process
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• 930[10:16:55] <babilen> You can't use Debian packages without having package management tools installed
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• 932[10:17:17] <BCMM> halt: if it's a small number of packages that you actually need, you could skip debootstrap or chroot or whatever you're currently doing, and use dpkg --root to install the packages
• 933[10:17:24] <babilen> And .. regardless of that. The Debian images would be present on your servers anyway and you'd only pull additional layers as the rest would be mounted from the base image
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• 935[10:17:55] <babilen> (so you wouldn't push them every time nor download them over and over)
• 936[10:17:56] <BCMM> babilen: is correct that you need to have debian package management tools available, but you don't need to actually have them inside your root
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• 938[10:18:14] <BCMM> sorry, meant to highlight halt and say "babilen is correct"
• 939[10:18:26] <babilen> ^ ;)
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• 941[10:19:10] <babilen> And, seriously, it sounds as if you're looking for multi-stage builds
• 942[10:19:15] <babilen> Did you look into them?
• 943[10:19:27] <babilen> replaced-url
• 944[10:19:50] <babilen> You can have FROM:debian... and FROM:scratch
• 945[10:19:53] <halt> I know that I can't use the package manager *after* I wipe the image clear, but the order would be different, I use the base image with all the tools, and at the end of the build remove everything not needed
• 946[10:19:56] <babilen> Or whatever other base image you need
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• 950[10:21:22] <halt> I have a look at the multi stage builds, I think I read about it but can't say that I know enough to close it out as an option, so I'm reading up now
• 951[10:21:30] <babilen> Please do
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• 954[10:22:33] <BCMM> halt: also note that alpine images being smaller than debian images is to be expected, and it's not solely due to having additional packages in debian
• 955[10:23:04] <BCMM> alpine uses a busybox userland and some sort of alternative libc, for example
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• 959[10:24:21] <BCMM> if you want something that feels properly debian-y you'll simply have to accept the overhead of coreutils and glibc
• 960[10:25:44] <pingfloyd> why wouldn't you want coreutils and glibc?
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• 962[10:26:12] <babilen> size
• 963[10:26:36] <babilen> But given that Docker re-uses common layers, that is also questionable.
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• 965[10:27:31] <babilen> The more important aspect is security and you can achieve that by using multi-stage builds that use a "FAT" image with everything you need for the build step and then using a minimal/scratch image as base for the final product to which you add what is *really* needed to run it
• 966[10:27:35] <pingfloyd> busybox is pretty meh
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• 969[10:29:20] <BCMM> pingfloyd: i'm not saying one wouldn't want them. i'm saying that the objective of making debian images as small as alpine images is probably not achievable
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• 971[10:29:53] <BCMM> (due to alpine making some rather extreme trade-offs for size that debian does not)
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• 976[10:33:15] <threaders> Err:6 replaced-url
• 977[10:33:15] <threaders> 404 Not Found [IP: 2001:1af8:4020:b030:deb::185 80]
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• 980[10:35:01] <threaders> /usr/share/debootstrap/functions: line 1544: /media/mike/7bc3e217-f264-4898-abf3-3d6e9615ff18/deadbian/debootstrap-powerpc/bootstrap/test-dev-null: Permission denied
• 981[10:37:07] <threaders> debootstrap --arch=powerpc --variant=buidd sid bootstrap replaced-url
• 982[10:37:07] <threaders> E: unsupported variant
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• 984[10:37:37] <threaders> missing an l in build :>
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• 989[10:41:11] <babilen> To the BTS!
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• 1018[11:02:21] <eb0t> hey i like debian and used to use it many years ago ...but i was thinking of switching back....but im a bit worried about if the versions of stuff i need are dated
• 1019[11:02:51] <eb0t> which i think causes me to have to build from source,..which im trying to find out ...i think it can break your system
• 1020[11:02:56] <eb0t> can it ?
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• 1023[11:04:34] <darsie> There are backports and you can backport yourself.
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• 1025[11:04:48] <darsie> Or you can run testing.
• 1026[11:04:58] <Fox> never run testing
• 1027[11:05:07] <Fox> unless you want to report bugs
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• 1031[11:06:16] <darsie> sometimes backporting fails.
• 1032[11:10:41] <eb0t> ah ok
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• 1049[11:19:28] <aindilis> anyone know how to do voice overs with free software?
• 1050[11:19:47] <p0g0_> audacity?
• 1051[11:20:26] <aindilis> so the thing is it needs to keep track of the audio video sync
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• 1054[11:21:23] <aindilis> I should be able to select a point in the timeline, hit record, speak into the mic, and then stop, and it should correlate it to the exact place I recorded it. Also, I should be able to record other swaths, and then blend them by tapering
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• 1056[11:21:42] <threaders> build-simple-cdd --dvd --profiles-udeb-dist sid --dist unstable --debian-mirror "replaced-url
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• 1058[11:21:58] <threaders> 2018-07-12 11:21:10 ERROR reprepro: updating package lists: Error parsing /media/mike/7bc3e217-f264-4898-abf3-3d6e9615ff18/deadbian/tmp/mirror/conf/updates, line 44, column 32: End of Method header expected (but trailing garbage).
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• 1068[11:30:49] <threaders> mkay, might have missed repo where the last powerpc stuff is, trying again
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• 1132[12:04:05] <Scognito> hello. I'm having troubles on locking account after some consecutive failed login
• 1133[12:05:08] <Scognito> my /etc/pam.d/common-password has this lines at the top
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• 1135[12:05:17] <Scognito> auth required pam_tally2.so onerr=fail deny=1 unlock_time=1800
• 1136[12:05:24] <Scognito> account required pam_tally2.so
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• 1138[12:05:39] <Scognito> i'm logging using ssh
• 1139[12:06:22] <Scognito> are these parameters ok on this file or should I put them on /etc/pam.d/sshd instead?
• 1140[12:06:24] <petn-randall> Scognito: Does your /etc/ssh/sshd_config have `UsePAM yes` set?
• 1141[12:07:10] <Scognito> petn-randall, yes it is
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• 1143[12:07:34] <Scognito> I've also "ChallengeResponseAuthentication no", don't know if it is relevant
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• 1150[12:08:06] <petn-randall> Scognito: And what issue are you seeing?
• 1151[12:09:40] <petn-randall> As in, you fail to log in even with correct password, or it never locks the account, or ...
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• 1155[12:10:14] <petn-randall> ... SSH never asks for the password ...
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• 1160[12:11:37] <Scognito> I'm trying to login from putty (or ssh localhost): it asks me the password, I set wrong password, and it asks again...I'expecting to not ask password a second time because i've set deny=1
• 1161[12:11:47] <Scognito> or I'm expecting wrong?
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• 1164[12:13:30] <__m4ch1n3__> think it will ask and deny
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• 1166[12:14:24] <__m4ch1n3__> also not sure if server "is asking" or client asks for input and sends unasked
• 1167[12:14:43] <Scognito> root@disney:/etc/pam.d# ssh -lpdivita 192.168.225.130
• 1168[12:14:43] <Scognito> pdivita@192.168.225.130's password:
• 1169[12:14:43] <Scognito> Permission denied, please try again.
• 1170[12:14:43] <Scognito> pdivita@192.168.225.130's password:
• 1171[12:14:43] <Scognito> Permission denied, please try again.
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• 1175[12:15:15] <__m4ch1n3__> good job debhelper bro
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• 1182[12:16:16] <__m4ch1n3__> wonder ppl stil use ssh passes and not keys
• 1183[12:16:59] <petn-randall> __m4ch1n3__: debhelper is a bot.
• 1184[12:17:20] <__m4ch1n3__> i know :)
• 1185[12:17:27] <petn-randall> Scognito: See the /topic, and use a paste site like replaced-url
• 1186[12:17:28] <threaders> 2build-simple-cdd --dvd --profiles-udeb-dist sid --dist unstable --debian-mirror "replaced-url
• 1187[12:17:28] <threaders> 018-07-12 12:16:48 ERROR reprepro: updating package lists: aptmethod got 'replaced-url
• 1188[12:17:28] <threaders> 2018-07-12 12:16:48 ERROR reprepro: updating package lists: aptmethod got 'replaced-url
• 1189[12:17:45] <__m4ch1n3__> i know i know
• 1190[12:18:09] <Scognito> sorry it's ages I don't use irc :P
• 1191[12:18:20] <threaders> reprepro update unstable
• 1192[12:18:21] <threaders> Error: unknown key '8B48AD6246925553'!
• 1193[12:18:25] <petn-randall> Scognito: That might be the password test in the first session. Maybe it's then locked when you try to open a 2nd SSH session?
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• 1195[12:18:50] <__m4ch1n3__> dont paste 100 lines console output into chat :D
• 1196[12:19:06] <petn-randall> threaders: Which OS release are you running on that machine?
• 1197[12:19:08] <threaders> __m4ch1n3__, dwaag
• 1198[12:19:21] <threaders> petn-randall, powerpc
• 1199[12:19:33] <threaders> trying to assemble , the last ppc32 dvd
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• 1201[12:19:43] <petn-randall> threaders: That is the architecture. What is the release of the OS?
• 1202[12:20:01] <threaders> and have enough dev packages and such to do debbuild or something if need be
• 1203[12:20:26] <threaders> ah, unstable, since powerpc was dropped that date i snapshot
• 1204[12:20:44] <Scognito> it's not locked: from another session i did an ssh login: first try i set a wrong password, second try i set the good password...and now I'm logged
• 1205[12:20:52] <threaders> __m4ch1n3__, is it ok if i include ascii art in the log?
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• 1208[12:21:25] <petn-randall> threaders: Then I'd continue asking in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net. That unknown key is the wheezy release key, you shouldn't need that.
• 1209[12:21:31] <threaders> petn-randall, i fixed polkit and some other stuff so nm-applet and gimp works
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• 1211[12:22:25] <threaders> petn-randall, thanks, weird, well, since powerpc32 has been removed . i dont know exactly where to continue the discussion
• 1212[12:22:38] <threaders> good news is the latest rc4 runs fine
• 1213[12:23:09] <threaders> and some greeter issues i had a while are gone , so its a pretty damned good distro if i can pack it
• 1214[12:23:24] <threaders> buster 0.99 or so, from the day before buster
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• 1217[12:24:25] <petn-randall> threaders: Before buster? It's not released yet.
• 1218[12:24:41] <threaders> ah, well, before unstable became buster then
• 1219[12:24:47] <threaders> so its stretch then ?
• 1220[12:25:01] <petn-randall> unstable never becomes any release. unstable is always sid and stays the same.
• 1221[12:25:26] <Scognito> also pam_tally2 command shows me that the counter of failed login is not incremented
• 1222[12:25:39] <threaders> true, but i were to try debbuild maybe continuing along the lines of whats happening might be a good idea
• 1223[12:25:51] <threaders> like debbuilding buster atop
• 1224[12:26:37] <threaders> 2018-07-12 12:26:05 ERROR reprepro: updating package lists: aptmethod got 'replaced-url
• 1225[12:26:37] <threaders> 2018-07-12 12:26:05 ERROR reprepro: updating package lists: There have been errors!
• 1226[12:26:41] <threaders> neeewp
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• 1230[12:29:09] <oo_miguel> I want to copy something from a ipv6 only server but I have only ipv4 connectivity.. while I can ssh into the server via "ssh -J someIPv4server ipv6server" I do not see a similiar flag for scp. Any suggestions how to download the files?
• 1231[12:29:45] <Scognito> the counter is incremented only if i remove the 2 lines from common common-password and add "auth required pam_tally2.so onerr=fail deny=1 unlock_time=1800" as first line of /etc/pam.d/sshd
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• 1233[12:29:56] <Scognito> (no need to reload ssh service)
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• 1236[12:30:47] <blackflow> oo_miguel: ssh to someipv4server normally, then scp from ipv6server to that, then exit someipv4server and then scp from that to your local computer
• 1237[12:31:25] <blackflow> oo_miguel: else use -o ProxyJump
• 1238[12:31:42] <oo_miguel> blackflow: I will have a look at ProxyJump thank you
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• 1240[12:32:16] <blackflow> oo_miguel: that's what -J does for ssh. it's actually ProxyJump config directive, which you can use with -o for scp
• 1241[12:32:21] <threaders> petn-randall, themill, found something in update-cd of simple-cdd , maaaybe
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• 1243[12:32:28] <threaders> # Is this an official CD?
• 1244[12:32:28] <threaders> # OFFICIAL=Official
• 1245[12:32:28] <threaders> OFFICIAL="Unofficial snapshot"
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• 1247[12:32:37] <oo_miguel> blackflow: yeah just reading about it. Thank you very much for pointing me to this!
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• 1249[12:32:43] <oo_miguel> seems to be exactly what I want
• 1250[12:32:50] <karankaran> hii
• 1251[12:33:21] <karankaran> are u hacker
• 1252[12:33:53] <petn-randall> Hi karankaran, are you lost?
• 1253[12:34:05] <karankaran> no
• 1254[12:34:17] <petn-randall> karankaran: Do you then have a Debian support question?
• 1255[12:34:23] <karankaran> i am a beganeer of hacking field
• 1256[12:34:32] <petn-randall> So you *are* lost.
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• 1259[12:34:42] <petn-randall> karankaran: Kali or Parrot?
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• 1261[12:34:55] <oo_miguel> blackflow: ok perferct, and I can also put it inside my .ssh/config, so I do not need to type it everytime. thank you very much once again
• 1262[12:35:01] <threaders> linux 2.2 or 2.4
• 1263[12:35:03] <blackflow> oo_miguel: yup, yw.
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• 1267[12:35:18] <annadane> litmus test as to whether the parrot factoid was updated yet ...
• 1268[12:35:26] <petn-randall> Scognito: So it works now?
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• 1272[12:35:52] <annadane> karankaran, this channel is for debian support, not hacking
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• 1275[12:36:13] <Scognito> petn-randall, no, it continues asking the password, even if I set the correct one :( that's weird
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• 1279[12:37:47] <karankaran> okk
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• 1288[12:44:49] <__m4ch1n3__> threaders, yes art is always ok
• 1289[12:45:26] <blackflow> so the beganeer turns begoneer :)))
• 1290[12:45:44] <blackflow> (sorry, I just couldn't help myself)
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• 1312[13:02:32] <threaders> 2018-07-12 12:50:34 ERROR reprepro: including local deb file: belonging to different reprepro repositories).
• 1313[13:02:32] <threaders> 2018-07-12 12:50:34 ERROR reprepro: including local deb file: To ignore use --ignore=undefinedtarget.
• 1314[13:02:32] <threaders> 2018-07-12 12:50:34 ERROR reprepro: including local deb file: There have been errors!
• 1315[13:02:58] <threaders> grep -r reprepro /usr/bin/simple-cdd
• 1316[13:02:58] <threaders> grep -r reprepro /usr/bin/build-simple-cdd
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• 1318[13:04:23] <__m4ch1n3__> grep bla bla 2>/dev/null
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• 1320[13:04:53] <threaders> __m4ch1n3__, ill just add that at the end of every line in the script, tnx
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• 1322[13:05:21] <__m4ch1n3__> lol calls your script in every line grep?
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• 1324[13:05:34] <threaders> oh no 2>/dev/null
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• 1327[13:06:27] <__m4ch1n3__> grep <conditions> 2>/dev/null | bla
• 1328[13:06:43] <threaders> grep -r reprepro / | build-simple-cdd --dvd --profiles-udeb-dist sid --dist sid --debian-mirror "replaced-url
• 1329[13:06:47] <FinalX> ignoring errors, excellent.. you can also do what the error tells you and ignore that specific error instead
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• 1331[13:07:39] <threaders> id love to add --ignore=undefinedtarget.
• 1332[13:07:40] <threaders>
• 1333[13:07:56] <threaders> might even solve the issue 0o
• 1334[13:07:59] <__m4ch1n3__> no before pip it should only redirect grep errors because it makes the results unreadable
• 1335[13:08:06] <__m4ch1n3__> *pipe
• 1336[13:08:41] <threaders> what about catting dev/urandom some randomly to make it look like its successfully doing _SOMETHING_
• 1337[13:09:19] <threaders> some 7 - 8 bytes and bit here and there
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• 1339[13:10:04] <__m4ch1n3__> yeah and piped to pv
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• 1347[13:18:35] <zprd> hi all
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• 1359[13:26:30] <threaders> (|) DEBUG reprepro: including local deb file running command reprepro -V --ignore=wrongdistribution includedeb sid archives/policykit-1-gnome_0.105-7_powerpc.deb
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• 1361[13:27:46] <threaders> grrr, where is it getting the command and option from ffs , its not in script, not in temp files it creates, not in etc not in usr/bin
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• 1366[13:31:27] <__m4ch1n3__> enviroment? duno
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• 1373[13:33:16] <[sr]> guys
• 1374[13:33:24] <M4GNV5> Hey, does anyone else have issues with playing videos/music in chromium? I first thought i did something wrong but when i wanted to look into the problem today i found someone else who has the same problem: replaced-url
• 1375[13:33:42] <[sr]> i already commented the script in logrotate.d, but mysql keeps restarting for main i guess, but i want to stop that
• 1376[13:33:48] <M4GNV5> some pages with custom players work (youtube, vimeo, ...) but opening a media file directly doesn't
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• 1378[13:33:53] <[sr]> where should be something else that restarts mysql?
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• 1380[13:36:26] <petn-randall> [sr]: logrotate doesn't restart mysql, ever.
• 1381[13:36:45] <petn-randall> [sr]: It sends it a HUP signal to close the file descriptors to the log files, and open them again.
• 1382[13:37:44] <__m4ch1n3__> has chromium like chrome its own mediaplayback lib in its directory? libffmpeg.so?
• 1383[13:38:16] <[sr]> petn-randall: that, but i have something else doing that
• 1384[13:38:18] <[sr]> debian scripts
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• 1386[13:38:21] <[sr]> cant find it
• 1387[13:38:26] <__m4ch1n3__> if yes then it could be the problem, lacking h264 support
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• 1390[13:39:12] <M4GNV5> m4rCsi_, yes, at least it works without having ffmpeg installed. It worked with older versions though.
• 1391[13:39:20] <petn-randall> [sr]: There are no Debian script doing that. Unless you install a newer version, then it gets restarted.
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• 1393[13:39:43] <petn-randall> [sr]: Show us the actual logs where you deduct this from.
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• 1395[13:40:08] <[sr]> petn-randall: its something that is doing this every day at 3am +-
• 1396[13:40:28] <[sr]> checked all cron's and dont see it, even grep'ed them
• 1397[13:40:32] <petn-randall> [sr]: replaced-url
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• 1399[13:40:55] <M4GNV5> m4rCsi_, hmm it has a dep on libavcodec57 though. Maybe that's what it uses
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• 1402[13:41:47] <__m4ch1n3__> i guess you can dl fixed libffmpeg.so extarnaly and put it in its path, opera browser has official no h264 support and unofficial libffmpeg.so with h264 support
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• 1404[13:42:09] <__m4ch1n3__> opera is chrome/vhromium based
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• 1406[13:42:37] <__m4ch1n3__> there was a package in debians repo in the pas, chrome-libs-extra or so
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• 1409[13:45:17] <__m4ch1n3__> replaced-url
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• 1411[13:46:38] <__m4ch1n3__> i have not tested this git and have no idea how legit/secure it is
• 1412[13:47:51] <M4GNV5> m4rCsi_, hmm none of the videos on the linked test page work: replaced-url
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• 1414[13:48:33] <__m4ch1n3__> and what says this page, replaced-url
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• 1418[13:52:09] <M4GNV5> alright i did the evil frankenstein thing and installed the deb from the ubuntu repositories. No change though. The terminal says 'MEDIA_ERROR_LOG_ENTRY {"error":"FFmpegDemuxer: open context failed"}'. youtube says replaced-url
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• 1420[13:52:25] <M4GNV5> maybe it thinks it supports it but for some reason fails to actually open those files?
• 1421[13:52:41] <__m4ch1n3__> the youtube link lists all formats your browser supports
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• 1423[13:54:17] <M4GNV5> m4rCsi_, yes, see the second screenshot i sent: replaced-url
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• 1425[13:54:57] <__m4ch1n3__> hmmm
• 1426[13:55:41] <__m4ch1n3__> no webm support is new+
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• 1434[14:00:22] <premoboss> hello, how can i list the Priority of all .deb i have on my sistem? i look at dpkg option but no clue there.
• 1435[14:00:57] <__m4ch1n3__> maybe it is an issiue in the one current release, you could go for development branch
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• 1456[14:13:38] <blackflow> FightingFalcon: there's no clear definition of "cut off internet connection", but if any of the OSI layers consider it as such, and it logs, it'll be in the syslog.
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• 1458[14:14:39] <blackflow> (and there may be higher level connection loss that is not logged, eg. login session lost because the WAN IP changed or something, while the LAN stacks saw no change)
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• 1465[14:19:02] <OSXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> hi
• 1466[14:19:16] <OSXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> anyone online ?
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• 1473[14:21:42] <darxmurf> nop
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• 1481[14:24:54] <ssot> OSXXXXXXXXXXXXXX: are you online ?
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• 1490[14:30:07] <darxmurf> nop too
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• 1520[14:43:15] <OSXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> yeah i am online
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• 1541[14:49:32] <ajeremias> hi! how i can cancel a failed package with apt-get ?
• 1542[14:49:47] <darxmurf> apt-get remove ?
• 1543[14:50:30] <ajeremias> ok.. did it :D
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• 1545[14:50:31] <ajeremias> great
• 1546[14:50:39] <ajeremias> i was looking for it.. could not find.. :|
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• 1549[14:51:09] <darxmurf> or apt-get autoremove --purge <package> to remove it with dependencies and purge conf files
• 1550[14:51:10] <annadane> depends what is meant by failed package
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• 1575[15:05:34] <RoyK> hi all. i'm seeing some bad corruption on xfs here - replaced-url
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• 1577[15:06:58] <darxmurf> what's the result when you umount the partition, xfs_repair /dev/sdX ?
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• 1583[15:09:12] <Hack2Mac> Hello
• 1584[15:09:36] <JaneDoe> hi
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• 1600[15:18:03] <petn-randall> OSXXXXXXXXXXXXXX: Do you have a Debian support question?
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• 1611[15:30:14] <RoyK> darxmurf: a bunch of errors - but it seems it's not fixed when I run it - the same show up when I run it again
• 1612[15:30:25] * RoyK wonders if he should go back to ZFS
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• 1615[15:33:00] <blackflow> RoyK: ZFS all the things.
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• 1618[15:34:46] <RoyK> blackflow: only issue now is I need a truckload of space to dump the crap - the usual backup works, but it's slooooooooooow
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• 1624[15:37:59] <darxmurf> RoyK: but no info about why it could not fix the errors ?
• 1625[15:39:17] <RoyK> I've run xfs_repair a few times
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• 1628[15:41:25] <blackflow> sounds like bad sectors or some other hw issue?
• 1629[15:41:43] <blackflow> tried to run some s.m.a.r.t tests?
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• 1659[16:02:08] <str1x_> hello there, maybe someone can help me.. i would really appreciate it. -> need to install openldap on a debian 9 with an webinterface like phpldapadmin or something similar
• 1660[16:02:40] <str1x_> im failing hard
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• 1674[16:06:48] <josecapurro> str1x_: This guide served me well replaced-url
• 1675[16:06:59] <josecapurro> str1x_: But no webinterface
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• 1677[16:07:40] <josecapurro> str1x_: replaced-url
• 1678[16:07:56] <josecapurro> str1x_: What's your issue?
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• 1681[16:10:08] <str1x_> @josecapurro tried that 20 times i think. finally it is simply not possible for me to access the web interface. i have checked all the configuration files several times. i do not know where my error lies
• 1682[16:10:42] <str1x_> url IP_ADRESS/phpldapadmin cannot open url
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• 1689[16:12:29] <josecapurro> str1x_: Is your webserver running? Is the port allowed in the firewall? Is PHP support enabled in your webserver?
• 1690[16:12:41] <josecapurro> str1x_: Are you using apache?
• 1691[16:13:14] <josecapurro> str1x_: You can do netstat -atunple | grep 80 to check if the webserver is running
• 1692[16:13:49] <str1x_> yes im using apache. is running. all needed ports are open (80, 389, 636). idk if PHP is enabled
• 1693[16:13:56] <josecapurro> str1x_: iptables -vL -n to check if the port is opened. For testing now, you can do iptables -F to flush all rules and allow everything
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• 1697[16:15:13] <str1x_> after typing iptebles -F there is no result
• 1698[16:15:21] <josecapurro> str1x_: You can create a test.php file with <?php phpinfo(); ?> and try to open it. If it shows information about PHP, is working.
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• 1700[16:16:28] <josecapurro> str1x_: iptables -F will show nothing. To check if it worked, do next iptables -vL -n. You should not see any rules.
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• 1702[16:16:47] <str1x_> ya i see.. im really new to linux world and only know the basics. its hard for me to understand the whole thing. I have read a 400 book about openLDAP and still no succes :D
• 1703[16:17:04] <josecapurro> str1x_: Been there.
• 1704[16:17:06] <str1x_> i think i need one who can do this for me. thanks for your help anyway
• 1705[16:17:16] <josecapurro> str1x_: np
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• 1708[16:17:29] <darxmurf> good luck mate... starting in linux with openldap is like starting in blacksmithing world with a paperclip :D
• 1709[16:18:04] <str1x_> i feel like running every second into the same wall :D
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• 1712[16:18:21] <darxmurf> it's true...
• 1713[16:18:30] <darxmurf> and there is another wall just behind the first one :D
• 1714[16:19:23] <str1x_> pshht ^^
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• 1716[16:19:36] <darxmurf> ldap is aweful
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• 1718[16:19:50] <darxmurf> and it's beer time \o/ see you tomorrow folks
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• 1738[16:29:18] <viq> Anyone can provide cluestick? I'm building a debian package (for a prometheus expoter) using fpm, I've provided postinst pretty much straight copied from replaced-url
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• 1752[16:36:25] <petn-randall> viq: Hard to say without you providing any output.
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• 1754[16:36:52] <petn-randall> viq: But since fpm isn't the Debian way of packaging things, I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't work, and you'd also have to ask them how to do things right.
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• 1756[16:37:11] <viq> replaced-url
• 1757[16:38:22] <viq> I've modified the postinst to have "set -ex" and echo "CALLED AS $*"
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• 1764[16:40:54] <petn-randall> viq: Seems like fpm broke something. I'd ask them.
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• 1766[16:41:30] <viq> Thanks
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• 1779[16:47:39] <OSssssssssssssss> hi
• 1780[16:47:51] <OSssssssssssssss> any one?
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• 1783[16:48:29] <petn-randall> OSssssssssssssss: yes?
• 1784[16:48:37] <josecapurro> OSssssssssssssss: Hello there!
• 1785[16:48:41] <FinalX> noooooooooooooooooooooooooo?
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• 1787[16:50:03] <OSssssssssssssss> are you guys learning oscp?
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• 1789[16:50:39] <bryanostergaard> hey guys, check out my new blog replaced-url
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• 1791[16:50:52] <josecapurro> OSssssssssssssss: No. Why?
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• 1808[17:01:04] <jelly> OSssssssssssssss: you might want be looking for the #offsec channel instead, type: /join #offsec
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• 1869[17:28:26] <gidna> Hello
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• 1872[17:29:04] <gidna> I'd like to install firmware-9.4.0-amd64-netinst on my notebokk my it says CDROM not found... it burned the iso on a pendrive..
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• 1881[17:34:02] <petn-randall> gidna: How did you "burn" it to the USB stick?
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• 1884[17:34:51] <gidna> dd if=/....iso of=/dev/sdd
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• 1888[17:35:37] <petn-randall> gidna: And how are you trying to boot it?
• 1889[17:35:55] <petn-randall> gidna: You need to select the pen drive (not the CD drive) to boot from.
• 1890[17:36:16] <gidna> petn-randall: I can boot it.. but I cannot install it
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• 1892[17:37:45] <petn-randall> gidna: So booting works, but it immediately fails?
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• 1894[17:38:20] <gidna> when I'm in the install manager.. there's no way to install from network... only from CD.. that I don't have
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• 1896[17:38:59] <komputernerd> My apt install seems to loop infinitely trying to get libtsan0
• 1897[17:39:06] <komputernerd> I can't seem to get it as a deb either
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• 1899[17:39:14] <petn-randall> gidna: the network installer needs network to do a meaningful install. If you want more, you need a network connection.
• 1900[17:39:17] <petn-randall> !bat
• 1901[17:39:18] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
• 1902[17:39:20] <petn-randall> komputernerd: ^^^
• 1903[17:39:32] <gidna> petn-randall: I've a wireless net
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• 1906[17:40:01] <petn-randall> gidna: Are you able to connect to your wifi AP with it?
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• 1909[17:40:16] <gidna> no...I don't know how to do it..
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• 1916[17:43:26] <komputernerd> Having apt looping issue - replaced-url
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• 1921[17:46:06] <petn-randall> komputernerd: And what about 'apt-cache policy libtsan0'?
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• 1925[17:47:11] <komputernerd> petn-randall: replaced-url
• 1926[17:47:13] <petn-randall> komputernerd: Although you truncated the output, it seems to me some proxy is meddling with the output and redirecting apt endlessly.
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• 1937[17:50:36] <komputernerd> petn-randall: its a fresh install - not sure
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• 1945[17:54:08] <komputernerd> petn-randall: I can't even get the deb direct replaced-url
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• 1950[17:55:09] <komputernerd> petn-randall: i managed to find a different mirror that worked, us.debian.org does not
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• 1952[17:56:01] <komputernerd> I spoke too soon, that deb seems corrupt
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• 1955[17:56:33] <petn-randall> komputernerd: Seems like something is breaking your connection in horrible ways. Are you using a proxy?
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• 1960[17:57:11] <komputernerd> I am not
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• 1962[17:57:46] <komputernerd> apt works fine with the exception of this package
• 1963[17:58:17] <petn-randall> !apt debug
• 1964[17:58:17] <dpkg> To debug what is going wrong with apt/apt-get/aptitude fetching from the mirrors, append «-o Debug::Acquire::http=true» to the command line. The output will be lengthy but informative.
• 1965[17:58:20] <petn-randall> komputernerd: ^^^
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• 1968[17:58:58] <komputernerd> thank you
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• 1980[18:04:14] <komputernerd> petn_randall: replaced-url
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• 1990[18:06:36] <komputernerd> if i try to wget the deb - Read error at byte 22642/256762 (Connection reset by peer)
• 1991[18:06:41] <petn-randall> komputernerd: Try running 'apt-get clean' and repeating it. Seems as though you got a corrupted package somehow, and it's not interacting well with the repo.
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• 1993[18:08:27] <komputernerd> petn-randall: Same issue
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• 1995[18:09:47] <petn-randall> komputernerd: Then either switching mirrors, and waiting a day would fix it.
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• 1997[18:09:52] <petn-randall> *or
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• 2011[18:17:09] <ov3rmind> i am getting this t string&)’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function] static void ThreadSafeHandleURI(const std::string& strURI) ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Makefile:1318: recipe for target 'build/codecoin.o' failed make: *** [build/codecoin.o] Error 1
• 2012[18:17:25] <ov3rmind> when try build manna coin wallet
• 2013[18:17:45] <ov3rmind> if any can help???
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• 2020[18:18:58] <petn-randall> ov3rmind: Looks like a programming error. Ask the maintainer of this software to fix it.
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• 2022[18:19:28] <petn-randall> ov3rmind: That's also a warning, it seems as you left the important bits out.
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• 2029[18:22:48] <gr8> is there some repository where I can get the latest boost version? (1.67)
• 2030[18:22:55] <gr8> on Stretch
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• 2032[18:23:51] <greycat> ,v libboost-dev
• 2033[18:23:52] <judd> Package: libboost-dev on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.49.0.1; jessie: 1.55.0.2; buster: 1.62.0.1; sid: 1.62.0.1; stretch: 1.62.0.1
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• 2035[18:24:14] <ov3rmind> In file included from src/walletdb.h:9:0, from src/wallet.h:24, from src/init.h:8, from src/qt/codecoin.cpp:23: src/base58.h: In function ‘std::__cxx11::string EncodeBase58(const unsigned char*, const unsigned char*)’: src/base58.h:54:42: error: cannot convert ‘CBigNum*’ to ‘BIGNUM* {aka bignum_st*}’ for argument ‘1’ to ‘int BN_div(BIGNUM*, BIGNUM
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• 2041[18:25:59] <mischief> anyone using openbox?
• 2042[18:26:06] <greycat> !popcon
• 2043[18:26:06] <dpkg> rumour has it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest, the basis for what packages appear on the first few CDs/DVDs etc (by rank). Install the popularity-contest package to participate. See the results at replaced-url
• 2044[18:26:20] <mischief> for some reason the task switcher (alt tab) no longer shows application titles unless it is current
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• 2046[18:27:00] <gr8> greycat, it's not in the official repositories. I was thinking of some 3rd party repos maybe
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• 2050[18:28:03] <greycat> Most likely you'll just end up using upstream's releases instead of ANY kind of packages.
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• 2054[18:30:52] <mischief> nevermind, turns out this theme is braindamaged.
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• 2057[18:32:21] <gr8> too bad
• 2058[18:32:34] <gr8> I like to receive security updates through my package manager
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• 2070[18:39:10] <TakWah> hi, what's the easiest way to get a package sponsor for a fire and forget script? I think people could make use of it, but am not interested in maintaining it?
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• 2075[18:41:45] <zerocool> okay so i am running nfs over lacp, 2x 1gb connections and my nfs transfers are peaking at 1gb... clear
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• 2077[18:42:53] <babilen> TakWah: Maybe incorporate into a package like debian-goodies?
• 2078[18:42:58] <babilen> *it
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• 2081[18:44:06] <TakWah> babilen: thanks, I make sure to check it out.
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• 2094[18:51:11] <rant> Idk but I think they should probably have something in our packages that is more mindful of file associations and asks via debconf about it. Cause I just installed mpv as a dependency for something and in MATE, my preferred multimedia app is still smplayer yet in caja its stomped all over my default app for media files and works such that I'd have to go to every kind of file, avi, mp4, m4v, mkv, mpeg, mpg,
• 2095[18:51:17] <rant> wav, mp3, etc.. and change it now
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• 2098[18:52:33] <rant> don't know where to direct such a suggestion other than to blame caja/nautilus but I get the feeling this sort of thing would happen with most anything
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• 2105[18:53:22] <DannyFritz> Does anyone know how to get the intel gpu utilization? `intel-gpu-top` is the closest I can get so far, but it needs to run just once, not continuously for replaced-url
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• 2108[18:53:45] <rant> its probably not even that the install of mpv did it, but simply that mpv comes before smplayer alphabetically and is now and app that can play those kinds of files.. so if thats the case, then yeah, its the file manager
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• 2119[18:59:27] <rant> idk if alternatives is suppose to address this issue or what.. if so then its caja that is not respecting the system
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• 2123[18:59:50] <rant> cause caja is part of mate, and mate's preferred apps says smplayer
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• 2129[19:01:57] <rant> personally I'm probably just going to uninstall mpv.. again.. but it is annoying that installing something can just change all my file associations
• 2130[19:02:57] <rant> for this specific case I think I can equivs mpv and symlink to mplayer for most any dependency type issue on mpv
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• 2133[19:04:35] <rant> mplayer won't show up as a possible file association unless specifically added anyhow.. which makes me think this is mpv's fault for registering in a way a file manager would use it without considering the fact a user may have 20+ file types associated with something else
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• 2136[19:05:12] <rant> I just am not certain where to toss the blame :P
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• 2138[19:05:42] <greycat> sounds like a DE issue to me
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• 2140[19:06:14] <rant> greycat: where would you file a bug on such a thing?
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• 2142[19:06:29] <rant> on a meta package then?
• 2143[19:06:36] <greycat> What makes you think it's even a bug? I'd find the support channel for this DE thing and ask them how to set the knobs.
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• 2147[19:07:49] <rant> you wouldn't consider the fact that installing say I think it was youtube-dl in this case, thus pulling in mpv, and it changing the preferred app for dozens of file types to mpv when the DE's preferred application in this case is set to smplayer, is not a bug?
• 2148[19:07:51] <Sleaker> so I'm trying to get a preseeded disc working but tasksel seems completely broken
• 2149[19:08:22] <Sleaker> that or stretch documentation hasn't been updated for changes to tasksel.
• 2150[19:08:27] <Sleaker> or I'm missing something.
• 2151[19:08:34] <greycat> rant: I have utterly no idea whether you explicitly set some DE knob to make those file associations or whether the DE is just using the system-wide default settings which happen to be "use whatever you like"
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• 2156[19:09:56] <rant> greycat: well yes, I dont know clearly. I know that the DE has a "Preferred Applications" in its settings and that the file manager can have its own associations based on type.. as for what mechanism made it switch to mpv I'm not certain..
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• 2158[19:11:23] <rant> but somewhere its a serious usability quirk when you got a user who has no interest at all in mpv, did not tell the system to install mpv other than it was unnecessarily required for something else, and that app then changes a large number of file associations in another app somehow.. that sounds like a bug to me
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• 2162[19:11:49] <rant> especially when the DE has something called "preferred applications" which is set to something else for media files :P
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• 2170[19:14:29] <komputernerd> Does the deb9 Live DVD have bad apt keys?
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• 2173[19:14:50] <rant> there is no debian 9 live dvd
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• 2177[19:15:14] <rant> there are debian 9 live dvds.. different ones for different DEs
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• 2179[19:15:46] <rant> I used the MATE one recently and it didn't have any issues..
• 2180[19:16:15] <rant> though typically when installing one, it will be using the packages on the dvd not the repos anyhow..
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• 2182[19:16:46] <komputernerd> It did initially, then I updated from the repo
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• 2184[19:17:10] <komputernerd> I tried to install docker, but it errored out out on libtsan0, looping
• 2185[19:17:11] <rant> komputernerd: you installed it to HDD from the live, then added sources?
• 2186[19:17:39] <komputernerd> I don't think it was live, now that you say it, I did a typical cli install.
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• 2188[19:17:58] <rant> well the live cds still have a normal looking installer on them via the boot menu
• 2189[19:18:00] <greycat> 11:54 komputernerd> petn-randall: I can't even get the deb direct replaced-url
• 2190[19:18:11] <greycat> Wasn't the conclusion that your internet connection is wonky?
• 2191[19:18:43] <komputernerd> I don't think thats it, its only working with apt and debs that I am having issues
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• 2193[19:18:56] <rant> kudos greycat on the replay footage :P
• 2194[19:19:07] <greycat> libtsan0 was familiar
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• 2197[19:19:23] <themill> komputernerd: the admins were interested in some tcpdump and further apt logging
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• 2202[19:21:04] <komputernerd> !apt debug
• 2203[19:21:04] <dpkg> To debug what is going wrong with apt/apt-get/aptitude fetching from the mirrors, append «-o Debug::Acquire::http=true» to the command line. The output will be lengthy but informative.
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• 2227[19:31:30] <komputernerd> thmill: what ports should I grab for tcpdump? and what command? apt install libtsan0?
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• 2229[19:32:09] <komputernerd> themill: the funny thing is I had to apt install tcpdump and that worked fine
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• 2245[19:39:25] <jim> if I get a debianized source package from (say) buster (for my stretch), is there an automatic way of getting the build and other depends?
• 2246[19:39:42] <greycat> jim: /msg dpkg simple sid backport
• 2247[19:39:49] <greycat> (or "ssb" for short)
• 2248[19:39:55] <jim> I usually read debian/control
• 2249[19:40:16] <jim> but if there's a better way... :)
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• 2251[19:40:36] <jim> ,checkbackport pgmodeler
• 2252[19:40:36] <judd> Backporting package pgmodeler in sid→stretch/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using stretch.
• 2253[19:41:01] <jim> that's good news :)
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• 2282[19:51:08] <komputernerd> I have been using apt for a minute now downloading and installing all sorts of packages, but it still does not work for libtsan0
• 2283[19:51:12] <Zgrokl> hello, is it possible to resize a standard ext4 partition with growpart and resize2fs while running ?
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• 2286[19:52:20] <jim> Zgrokl, shrink, no (you have to unmount it first); grow, yes (you can resize2fs it while it's mounted)
• 2287[19:53:04] <jim> komputernerd, what do you mean by "it doesn't work"?
• 2288[19:53:06] <Zgrokl> jim, but for the partition ? how to upgrade, resize2fs support to extend the partition ?
• 2289[19:53:47] <komputernerd> jim: sorry, jim, been here a minute- it just loops in apt and never downloads
• 2290[19:53:51] <jim> Zgrokl, you have to grow the container first, then resize2fs will resize it to whatever the container is
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• 2292[19:54:39] <greycat> Zgrokl: when you say "loop", do you mean "hangs with no output", or something else?
• 2293[19:54:57] <greycat> oops. that should be komputernerd
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• 2296[19:55:57] <komputernerd> greycat: here is a clip from aptitude install libtsan0 - replaced-url
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• 2298[19:56:24] <jim> Zgrokl, that's for growing the partition... I'm not sure how to get the right size to make the partition after you shrink it
• 2299[19:56:33] <komputernerd> greycat: apt install does the same thing
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• 2303[19:57:38] <p0lyph3m> Zgrokl : use fdisk to rewrite partition table ; delete the too small partition , recreate it ; it 'must' start at the same sector as before (write down the sector prior to deletion) ; reboot ; resize2fs
• 2304[19:57:40] <greycat> So it hangs at 22.2 kB forever?
• 2305[19:57:46] <jim> greycat, for shrinking, you unmount, resize2fs the filesystem, then what? how do you find out how much smaller to make the partition (or vol)?
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• 2308[19:58:00] <greycat> jim: I've never shrunk a unix file system.
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• 2310[19:58:18] <komputernerd> yes
• 2311[19:58:28] <greycat> Not without totally recreating it, anyway, and if I did that it was so long ago that I don't remember, and probably wouldn't have even been on a Linux.
• 2312[19:58:34] <komputernerd> when I try to wget the deb, it also hangs at 22.2kb
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• 2314[19:58:37] <jim> wow :) that's pretty amazing, knowing how long you've been around
• 2315[19:58:49] <greycat> Things grow, not shrink. Usually.
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• 2317[19:59:21] <jim> well, best to ask him what he wants to do then
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• 2319[19:59:33] <p0lyph3m> Zgrokl: shrink or grow ?
• 2320[19:59:39] <greycat> komputernerd: this all points to some sort of HTTP proxy, as someone else also guessed earlier
• 2321[19:59:55] <jim> Zgrokl, you want to grow the filesystem, right?
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• 2323[19:59:58] <p0lyph3m> man do i love lvm
• 2324[19:59:59] <komputernerd> only with one file?
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• 2327[20:00:15] <Zgrokl> jim, grow yes
• 2328[20:00:30] <jim> that's the much easier case
• 2329[20:00:32] <Zgrokl> i grow the container yes, but i'm not sure if i need to fdisk the partition
• 2330[20:00:53] <greycat> Growing is a lot easier. You increase the partition or LV first, then the file system to match, and voila. Usually don't even have to unmount.
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• 2333[20:01:25] <Zgrokl> ye but resize2fs it's only file system, so how i grow the partition while running ?
• 2334[20:01:31] <Zgrokl> with fdisk greycat ?
• 2335[20:01:42] <jim> yes, growing can be done online (meaning when the partition is mounted)
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• 2337[20:01:53] <greycat> If you're not using logical volumes, then it could be tricky if there's no free space directly adjacent to your existing partition.
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• 2341[20:03:45] <p0lyph3m> Zgrokl: paste fdisk -l , and tell wich disk u are talking about
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• 2346[20:06:29] <Zgrokl> !paste
• 2347[20:06:29] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: replaced-url
• 2348[20:07:12] <Zgrokl> replaced-url
• 2349[20:07:16] <Zgrokl> i want to grow sdc1
• 2350[20:07:23] <Zgrokl> sdc already have 500gb
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• 2353[20:08:18] <greycat> There's no other partition on that disk? OK, grow the partition up to the end of the disk, then resize the FS.
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• 2355[20:08:43] <Zgrokl> greycat, yes no ther parition
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• 2357[20:08:51] <Zgrokl> with fdisk greycat ?
• 2358[20:09:40] <greycat> Sure, if that's what you prefer.
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• 2372[20:17:30] <Zgrokl> there is only delete or create no maximize or grow in fdisk
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• 2374[20:17:52] <greycat> Then use something else, like parted.
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• 2378[20:18:15] <p0lyph3m> Zgrokl: delete first , then create at same startic sector 2048
• 2379[20:18:19] <FightingFalcon> Do you know a logging program which logs whenever the server loses its internet connection?
• 2380[20:18:28] <p0lyph3m> s/startic/starting/
• 2381[20:18:28] <greycat> p0lyph3m: I'd ... switch to parted instead.
• 2382[20:18:44] <Zgrokl> p0lyph3m, but i don't want to loose my data
• 2383[20:18:52] <jelly> FightingFalcon: logging programs just log. connectivity checks are separate.
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• 2385[20:19:15] <p0lyph3m> Zgrokl: you wont , when u create one same starting sector
• 2386[20:19:18] <FightingFalcon> how could i check it
• 2387[20:19:57] <p0lyph3m> Zgrokl: then write new table to disk ; reboot
• 2388[20:20:17] <greycat> Zgrokl: or, switch to parted and use the resizepart command.
• 2389[20:20:29] <Zgrokl> p0lyph3m, not possible without reboot ?
• 2390[20:20:32] <greycat> or gparted, or whatever you like
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• 2392[20:20:56] <p0lyph3m> Zgrokl: kernel reads partition table at reboot
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• 2396[20:22:50] <jelly> FightingFalcon: a bunch of ways. Something like "ping -c1 -i1 9.9.9.9", or ping some other host that's usually up. Then add a pipe to logger command. Then make a cron job that does it every minute.
• 2397[20:23:03] <p0lyph3m> Zgrokl: after reboot , run fsck /dev/sdc1
• 2398[20:23:20] <p0lyph3m> Zgrokl: then resize2fs /dev/sdc1
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• 2401[20:24:17] <Zgrokl> well i try to find a way without rebooting
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• 2403[20:24:52] <jelly> FightingFalcon: and probably a wait timeout for that ping command, like -w5
• 2404[20:25:10] <p0lyph3m> resize2fs , uses kernel partiton table , kernel has old size , it wont resize
• 2405[20:25:17] <Zgrokl> maybe partprobe /dev/sdcc
• 2406[20:25:32] <jelly> p0lyph3m: there's no need to fsck if it's already mounted. Just resize2fs online.
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• 2410[20:26:25] <jelly> if Zgrokl can umount all the filesystems on that disk, kernel should be able to reread the partition table layout even without reboot
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• 2412[20:26:47] <greycat> There's only one partition on it.
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• 2415[20:27:06] <Zgrokl> it's not the system partition
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• 2418[20:27:27] <Zgrokl> i just have some rsync going on i don't want to touch this
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• 2420[20:27:35] <p0lyph3m> Zgrokl: partptobe should do it
• 2421[20:27:43] <jelly> then just umount and "blockdev --rereadpt /dev/sdc" when ready
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• 2427[20:28:26] <jelly> Zgrokl: if you avoid making partitions completely, you can do this without any downtime.
• 2428[20:28:54] <p0lyph3m> Zgrokl: you used the same old starting sector (2048) as new partition start in fdisk , right ?
• 2429[20:28:56] <jelly> either put the filesystem directly on whole disk, or use lvm
• 2430[20:29:13] <Zgrokl> i don't understand anything with fdisk i will try with parted
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• 2432[20:29:13] <p0lyph3m> man i love lvm
• 2433[20:29:29] <greycat> That's how HP-UX works -- you either use a whole disk, or LVM. There are no partitions.
• 2434[20:29:32] <Zgrokl> ye last time without lvm, lesson learned ^^
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• 2436[20:29:48] <jelly> that's where lvm was stolen from
• 2437[20:29:55] <greycat> yes, the commands are the same
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• 2439[20:30:12] <p0lyph3m> man i love lvm^2
• 2440[20:30:18] <jelly> PAM? Solaris did it first. /proc? Solaris, too.
• 2441[20:30:42] <jelly> xfs comes from sgi/irix people
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• 2445[20:32:03] <jelly> greycat: but how does hp-ux boot?!?! :-)
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• 2452[20:34:35] <p0lyph3m> jelly: they hav the kernel in boot device , and bios boots it
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• 2455[20:35:14] <p0lyph3m> bios is more like a system console
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• 2458[20:36:59] <zub> Hi. I'm running debian testing. And it seems I'm unable to install pdftk. I see it depends on libgcj17 >=5 and aptitude says it's UNAVAILABLE. Am I doing something wrong, or it's really not possible install in testing?
• 2459[20:37:13] <greycat> !debian-next
• 2460[20:37:13] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
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• 2462[20:37:23] <zub> ouch, sorry
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• 2465[20:38:24] <jelly> zub: it's quite possible for a package to be completely uninstallable in testing at some point in time
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• 2467[20:38:39] <greycat> and to remain that way for weeks...
• 2468[20:38:46] <jelly> right
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• 2470[20:38:55] <zub> especually when one actually needs the package :)
• 2471[20:39:37] <jelly> which all the testing users know! In advance! Before they choose to install and use testing! Because its primary purpose is to detect and fix such bugs!
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• 2475[20:40:09] <jelly> I think I saw a pig fly by!
• 2476[20:40:21] <zub> jelly: that is a helpful advice
• 2477[20:40:25] * greycat knits some sweaters for those poor demons who are freezing
• 2478[20:40:26] <zub> of course I can just compile it myself
• 2479[20:40:38] <zub> it = pdftk
• 2480[20:40:52] <greycat> ,v pdftk
• 2481[20:40:53] <judd> Package: pdftk on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.44-7; jessie: 2.02-2; sid: 2.02-4+b2; stretch: 2.02-4+b2
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• 2483[20:41:04] <jelly> if you go ask in that other channel, you may receive actual useful advice
• 2484[20:41:10] <greycat> looks like you could just use the stretch package...?
• 2485[20:41:19] <jelly> instead of platitudes about knowing better
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• 2489[20:43:52] <jelly> dpkg, why is pdftk not in testing
• 2490[20:43:52] <dpkg> pdftk is not in testing for the reasons listed in replaced-url
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• 2493[20:44:17] <jelly> greycat: how many weeks is "813 days old (needed 15 days)"
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• 2495[20:44:40] <greycat> more than a hundred
• 2496[20:44:56] <greycat> at this point you switch to years, I think
• 2497[20:45:47] <greycat> It's around the time when you want to start potty training, too.
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• 2502[20:49:31] <themill> 813 days is also not true; that's just the time between upload and now, not how long it has been trying to migrate. It did migrate 5 days after upload but then got removed in May.
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• 2507[20:50:57] <greycat> there's some more detail on replaced-url
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• 2510[20:51:56] <zub> thanks
• 2511[20:52:04] <themill> basically, it doesn't work with java in buster
• 2512[20:52:11] <themill> #892539
• 2513[20:52:12] <judd> Bug replaced-url
• 2514[20:52:46] <zub> for now I just use a random lxc container that I have for other purpose with ubuntu 17.10 that seems to have it
• 2515[20:53:00] <shtrb> so openjdk only now ?
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• 2547[21:10:43] <Li> I've dd debian-9.4.0-arm64-DVD-1.iso on sdcard, md5 checked it successfully but it'not booting!
• 2548[21:10:57] <Li> any suggestions appreciated
• 2549[21:11:00] <greycat> arm64 may not be the right arch for you
• 2550[21:11:05] <greycat> did you want amd64 instead?
• 2551[21:11:25] <Li> it's on raspberry pi 3
• 2552[21:11:45] <FinalX> raspberry pi needs the kernel and boot stuff on a seperate vfat partition done in a very precise way
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• 2555[21:11:57] <FinalX> simply dd'ing the image to an sdcard will not result in anything bootable for the pi
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• 2559[21:12:12] <FinalX> you should use the tooling for pi's to make a bootable sd-card
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• 2562[21:13:12] <Li> FinalX: can you give any link for how to do that? I really wanna use debian on rpi
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• 2566[21:13:33] <Li> been googling this issue for a while without results
• 2567[21:13:41] <FinalX> i'm not familiar with a specially crafted debian image for pi's ("arm64", which is aarch64), i know ubuntu has one for 18.04 though, I'm using that personally
• 2568[21:13:49] <FinalX> no, i dont have a link for it
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• 2570[21:14:07] <p0lyph3m> Li : raspian
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• 2574[21:15:46] <FinalX> p0lyph3m: they have 64-bit images now? quite sure they're only 32-bit
• 2575[21:16:29] <shtrb> Li, replaced-url
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• 2577[21:17:13] <shtrb> just remember that stapelberg work while nice does not mean to be 100% supported or bug free
• 2578[21:17:29] <Jamie96> Hello all. So I installed debian 9 on my NUC, hoping to use the LED ring I came across this: replaced-url
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• 2582[21:19:14] <Jamie96> Li: replaced-url
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• 2588[21:22:05] <p0lyph3m> Li replaced-url
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• 2590[21:22:23] <Li> p0lyph3m: rasbian too much bloatware for me.. I want to install debian... thanks for the links
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• 2593[21:22:48] <p0lyph3m> Li: you're welcome
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• 2596[21:23:22] <shtrb> Li, You can strip down rasbian
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• 2601[21:26:04] <Jamie96> Li: replaced-url
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• 2621[21:50:35] <FightingFalcon> jelly what do you mean "add a pipe to logger command"?
• 2622[21:50:49] <greycat> man 1 logger
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• 2624[21:51:33] <Li> minibain is very interesting .. the first time hearing about it
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• 2637[21:55:57] <almostdvs> is there a hierarchal list on how an interface receives its settings? I have a machine where the /etc/network/interfaces does not match what it is set with
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• 2640[21:56:51] <greycat> if you edited the file and haven't done any commands like ifdown/ifup since then, then those changes won't have been applied yet
• 2641[21:57:39] <klys> what is the best official way to configure a network running debian and gnome 3 ?
• 2642[21:57:51] <klys> interface*
• 2643[21:57:54] <greycat> any manual ip/ifconfig commands that you do as root will of course immediately change things
• 2644[21:58:36] <greycat> klys: the "best" way is whatever works for your network and your machines
• 2645[21:58:36] <almostdvs> ok, but if i reboot or ifdown/ifup the /e/n/interfaces will re-apply
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• 2647[21:59:20] <almostdvs> there is no automatic way to override that (other than some script)
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• 2656[22:03:02] <klys> do you think interfaces.d would be deprecated in favor of using network-manager?
• 2657[22:03:30] <greycat> I've never heard of any such plan.
• 2658[22:03:36] <klys> ok
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• 2663[22:05:10] <klys> then I ought to learn how to use interfaces.d with a wireless interface using wpa-supplicant.
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• 2666[22:09:12] <lessthan0> I found 3 different packages for creating iSCSI target on debian 9. I need some suggestions. I would prefer something that gets security updates and is very stable. GNU free would also be preferred
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• 2673[22:12:23] <lessthan0> there is IET, TGT and openiSCSI
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• 2681[22:14:20] <lessthan0> also linuxIO (LIO)
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• 2707[22:24:13] <jelly> FightingFalcon: some command | logger
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• 2710[22:26:57] <jelly> lessthan0: and there's also SCST not in debian and not in kernel, but possibly the best implementation maybe?
• 2711[22:27:35] <lessthan0> someone in ##linux said SCST I am reading the man page
• 2712[22:27:44] <Sleaker> hmm I'm having trouble getting tasksel to preseed properly. it's only ver getting set to standard even though I change it in the preseed file. Also pkgsel/include doesn't seem to be working
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• 2716[22:28:31] <lessthan0> "In order to reach maximum performance SCST has been implemented as a set of kernel drivers."
• 2717[22:28:32] <FightingFalcon> jelly, can i make it so that logger command outputs to my-own-file ?
• 2718[22:28:55] <lessthan0> so I would need to compile the kernel then
• 2719[22:29:13] <lessthan0> but TGT is in the debian kernel?
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• 2722[22:30:41] <jelly> FightingFalcon: no, logger always logs to syslog. Then you configure syslog to log what you want where you want
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• 2724[22:30:58] <jelly> lessthan0: they seem to have dkms
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• 2726[22:32:46] <jelly> FightingFalcon: you could also redirect the output to append to an existing file directly
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• 2729[22:33:03] <jelly> avoiding any separate logging solution
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• 2736[22:36:54] <lessthan0> but if I use TGT it is just a userspace package and no kernel dependencies?
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• 2738[22:37:14] <FightingFalcon> jelly how?
• 2739[22:37:29] <greycat> FightingFalcon: man rsyslog.conf
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• 2743[22:37:53] <FightingFalcon> no, how do i redirect the output to append an existing file
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• 2745[22:38:26] <greycat> FightingFalcon: foobar >> somefile
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• 2756[22:43:20] <FightingFalcon> errrrrrrrrr
• 2757[22:43:22] <FightingFalcon> thanks :D
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• 2767[22:46:26] <FightingFalcon> greycat, lets say i dont have internet connection and i try to ping an address. what message would it return?
• 2768[22:46:48] <greycat> If you specify a raw IP rather than a name, most likely "no route to host" or similar, but why are you asking this?
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• 2779[22:49:10] <FightingFalcon> im trying to make a script so that i can understand when my connection is gone
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• 2781[22:49:39] <greycat> If you're using jelly's suggestion of a ping -c1 -w1 ... command to test whether "you have internetz" then the important part is the EXIT STATUS of ping, not whatever words it writes to stderr.
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• 2785[22:50:37] <greycat> while true; do ping -c1 -w1 ... || echo "we have a problem" | logger; sleep 60; done
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• 2790[22:52:26] <FightingFalcon> umm
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• 2792[22:52:46] <FightingFalcon> and how do i stop this?
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• 2796[22:53:05] <greycat> If you ran that in a terminal, ctrl-C.
• 2797[22:53:23] <greycat> The intent is that once you have tested it, you install it as a permanent service.
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• 2799[22:53:49] <lessthan0> <FightingFalcon> im trying to make a script so that i can understand when my connection is gone
• 2800[22:53:59] <greycat> yes, we got that
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• 2802[22:54:03] <lessthan0> on windows it is destination host unreachable
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• 2804[22:54:25] <lessthan0> but on all systems it will time out if the incoming firewall is not accepting connections
• 2805[22:54:32] <lessthan0> or if the router has no route
• 2806[22:54:56] <FightingFalcon> greycat, but i want to output to my own file. i cant use >> in this case, can i?
• 2807[22:55:03] <lessthan0> if the packet goes out but not come back this is always a time out because there is just no information
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• 2811[22:55:41] <greycat> FightingFalcon: while true; do ping -c1 -w1 ... >/dev/null 2>&1 || echo "We have a problem"; sleep 60; done >> mylogfile
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• 2813[22:56:27] <FightingFalcon> why do we have /dev/null this time?
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• 2815[22:56:42] <greycat> because you don't want to see ping's actual output clogging up your log file
• 2816[22:57:07] <FightingFalcon> ok thanks
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• 2819[22:57:37] <lessthan0> ... is an IP?
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• 2821[22:58:27] <greycat> and other ping options
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• 2841[23:12:46] <macgyver_> which is latest version of debian in 32 bit pc?
• 2842[23:14:15] <lessthan0> debian 7
• 2843[23:14:21] <lessthan0> got it here on CD
• 2844[23:14:41] <lessthan0> museum quality framed under glass
• 2845[23:15:03] <lessthan0> it is 386 compatible bro
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• 2847[23:15:17] <lessthan0> 286 can GTFO
• 2848[23:15:54] <macgyver_> debian supports 32bit pc?
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• 2851[23:16:30] <macgyver_> which is latest debian
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• 2853[23:17:40] <lessthan0> I just told you
• 2854[23:17:45] <macgyver_> I am new to debian and I am searching
• 2855[23:17:56] <Toadisattva> stretch
• 2856[23:17:57] <macgyver_> it says debian 9 is that new version?
• 2857[23:18:01] <lessthan0> I answered your question within seconds
• 2858[23:18:15] <lessthan0> debian 9 does not have 386
• 2859[23:18:23] <lessthan0> 386 = 32 bit x86
• 2860[23:18:36] <lessthan0> you need debian 7
• 2861[23:18:46] <lessthan0> whatever toy story character that may be
• 2862[23:19:17] <wondiws> lessthan0, I really don't think debian 7 will support the 386
• 2863[23:19:21] <wondiws> it's probably 686
• 2864[23:20:47] <lessthan0> replaced-url
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• 2866[23:20:56] <lessthan0> says so right on the tin
• 2867[23:21:30] <Tegu> lessthan0: at least this page lists 32-bit debian 9.4, so what do you mean 7 is the latest to support 32-bit?
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• 2869[23:21:44] <Tegu> replaced-url
• 2870[23:22:01] <tomreyn> macgyver_: i386 is supported by the latest stable release, 9.4
• 2871[23:22:16] <macgyver_> how can I download for usb live?
• 2872[23:22:26] <macgyver_> I must download with ce first?
• 2873[23:22:28] <macgyver_> cd
• 2874[23:22:29] <macgyver_> ?
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• 2877[23:22:47] <lessthan0> oh ok yup I was wrong again. it happens a lot
• 2878[23:22:52] <tomreyn> macgyver_: try the netinst iso replaced-url
• 2879[23:22:56] <Tegu> macgyver_: read the page I linked above
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• 2881[23:23:19] <lessthan0> I had tried to install on intel centrino m and I needed debian 7 32
• 2882[23:23:51] <lessthan0> but I guess if you have a intel atom you can debian 9 32
• 2883[23:24:25] <lessthan0> use rufus in DD mode
• 2884[23:24:38] <lessthan0> DD will just copy the iso exactly no changes
• 2885[23:24:53] <Tegu> lessthan0: ah yea, I see. I guess its about SSE2, then? notsure how the debian 32-bit version should be named, then. 386 is probably way too old
• 2886[23:24:55] <lessthan0> the option is a pop-up after you hit start
• 2887[23:25:25] <lessthan0> tegu that is my point
• 2888[23:25:38] <lessthan0> it says deb 9 386 but 386 is not 386
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• 2890[23:25:51] <lessthan0> deb 9 32 is for intel atom single core
• 2891[23:26:01] <lessthan0> sadly
• 2892[23:26:11] <Tegu> yea. 32-bit still goes, I guess, but 386 seems misleading
• 2893[23:26:20] <lessthan0> very misleading
• 2894[23:26:33] <lessthan0> since there is not a 386 on the planet that will run it
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