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7 [00:03:15] <misirk85> hi
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24 [00:21:41] <mallxs> blackflow: thanks
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31 [00:24:53] <__m4ch1n3__> stochastix, are you trying to execute the file from the mounted cd iso image? if yes
32 [00:25:10] <stochastix> Yea
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35 [00:26:35] <__m4ch1n3__> you cant cuz iso filesystem has no execute premission, capabilty
36 [00:27:10] <__m4ch1n3__> you have to copy the files to vms hdd
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40 [00:27:47] <stochastix> Ive never had to do that in any other distro?
41 [00:28:57] <__m4ch1n3__> i assume you never tried execute a file in a iso, you cant exec files on fat16/32 in linux to
42 [00:29:07] <__m4ch1n3__> e.g
43 [00:29:49] <stochastix> If you cant execute files on an iso, why would Virtualbox make their guest additions mount as an iso?
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45 [00:30:38] <__m4ch1n3__> you cant execute files on iso in linux, in windows you can, virtualbox was not made for linuxvms only, duno
46 [00:30:56] <__m4ch1n3__> its kinda stupid
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48 [00:32:29] <__m4ch1n3__> to execute files on linux a filesystem needs user/group premission support
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53 [00:35:55] <__m4ch1n3__> thought addition iso was obsolete, you can install the stuff in vm through debian rebo
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55 [00:36:20] <__m4ch1n3__> apt-get update*repo
56 [00:36:25] <__m4ch1n3__> ups lol
57 [00:36:36] <stochastix> Acutally, I just needed to run with sh
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59 [00:36:43] <stochastix> it ran fine
60 [00:37:23] <__m4ch1n3__> debian should have guest addions in repository as package
61 [00:37:50] <stochastix> probably not as up to date
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95 [01:00:07] <psichas> my system not synchronize time with hwclock ... i dont get this... i remember disabled synchronizing but forgot how... :)
96 [01:00:35] <psichas> help me system time after reboot again ...
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98 [01:01:11] <psichas> looks like i edited file config... i dont remember...
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104 [01:05:47] <__m4ch1n3__> "apt-get install gbrainy" should help if you suffer from lapses of memory
105 [01:05:52] <__m4ch1n3__> :)
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111 [01:08:01] <mtnman> elho
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125 [01:21:26] <psichas> guys, best font for terminal? :)
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138 [01:29:19] <jim> psichas, well a monospaced easy to read font would be good
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143 [01:31:09] <ryouma> this helps: 0O1l|I
144 [01:31:32] <ryouma> 8 too i suyppose
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146 [01:34:15] <psichas> jim, actually no, but terminus so great for reading... but... is better?
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148 [01:35:58] <psichas> jim, i want sleep, its night... monospace... too small spaces between letters
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154 [01:38:09] <jim> you can decide tomorrow :)
155 [01:39:05] <jim> the font wont be important while you sleep :)
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208 [02:43:04] <csmall> ,kernel
209 [02:43:06] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.16.0-rc6-686 (4.16~rc6-1~exp1); sid: 4.17.0-1-686-pae (4.17.3-1); buster: 4.16.0-2-686 (4.16.16-2); stretch-backports: 4.16.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.16.16-2~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-6-686-pae (4.9.88-1+deb9u1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-6-686-pae (3.16.56-1+deb8u1); wheezy-backports:
210 [02:43:07] <judd> 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-6-686-pae (3.2.102-1)
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236 [03:01:25] <ryouma> when i compare the contents of initrd files (after having run grub-install, update-grub, and update-initramfs), i find that ./lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcrypt.so.20 has different sizes. does update-initramfs change this library? is it a hardcoded label for the partition to decrypt or something?
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241 [03:03:21] <ryouma> one is "--rw-r--r--,root,root,920000 ./lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcrypt.so.20" and the other is the same except size is 924096.
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252 [03:12:59] <somiaj> ryouma: wonder if it has to do with the file system and block size
253 [03:13:26] <ryouma> do you mean some kind of glitch in cpio or something?
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255 [03:14:17] <Nothing4You> should be verified easily using md5sum, shasum or something
256 [03:14:40] <erin1983684> hi
257 [03:14:56] <erin1983684> how do i change brightness of screen
258 [03:15:15] <erin1983684> i dont got a gui app
259 [03:15:32] <ryouma> Nothing4You: you mean it could be same sum but different sizes?
260 [03:15:43] <poxifide> is this the right place to go for ssl issues? :S
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262 [03:15:47] <Nothing4You> different appearant sizes as somiaj said
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264 [03:16:12] <Nothing4You> poxifide: your message literally contains no information
265 [03:16:22] <somiaj> ryouma: no file size is partly based off the file system used and how the blocks fit on the file system.
266 [03:16:58] <somiaj> and initramfs is a differnt file system than ext4 and will have differnet block sizes
267 [03:17:01] <poxifide> im getting it in all IRC clients. 00:56 -!- Irssi: warning SSL handshake failed: Success
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269 [03:17:38] <Nothing4You> mind sharing the hostname/port?
270 [03:17:39] <ryouma> somiaj: i am actually unpacking the initrd onto ext4 identically for both, then comparing the subtrees
271 [03:17:50] <poxifide> irc.nightstar.net +6697
272 [03:18:04] <somiaj> ryouma: as Nothing4You for you pointed out, a checksum maybe better way to check if things have changed.
273 [03:18:07] <ryouma> somiaj: so they should be identical unless one of those commands changed that file, i think
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275 [03:18:17] <poxifide> it's weird cause it works on another server running ubuntu and my home box on manjaro
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278 [03:18:49] <Nothing4You> poxifide: does `openssl s_client -connect irc.nightstar.net:6697` connect successfully for you?
279 [03:18:56] <ryouma> somiaj: maybe i will try od -x or something if i can remember the script i'musing
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283 [03:20:10] <poxifide> Nothing4You: yes replaced-url
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285 [03:20:56] <Nothing4You> poxifide: does it also show something like this afterwards? :Deepthought.Nightstar.Net NOTICE Auth :*** Looking up your hostname...
286 [03:22:01] <poxifide> nope replaced-url
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289 [03:22:59] <Nothing4You> just for comparison this is what i get replaced-url
290 [03:23:03] <poxifide> znc also fails and shows "Success"
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293 [03:24:47] <Nothing4You> seems like an odd error
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295 [03:26:11] <Nothing4You> probably won't fix it but can you try a reboot? appearently it at least fixed that for /someone/ on the internet
296 [03:27:17] <Nothing4You> is your openssl up to date?
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298 [03:28:43] <poxifide> should be. also already rebooted about an hour ago. there's lots of people using the server so i can't really take it down without warning
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301 [03:28:54] <Nothing4You> did you change things after the reboot?
302 [03:28:57] <ryouma> Nothing4You: somiaj: the sums are different. i tried od -xa and the differences were too large in diff -u.
303 [03:29:23] <poxifide> i tried updating the certs after getting the error. it didn't work.
304 [03:29:26] <Nothing4You> `openssl s_client -connect irc.nightstar.net:6697 -state` might give some more details about where exactly it fails
305 [03:29:43] <Nothing4You> how did you try to update them?
306 [03:30:25] <poxifide> replaced-url
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308 [03:30:40] <poxifide> update-ca-certificates --fresh
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310 [03:31:25] <poxifide> ca-certificates: Installed: 20170717 (from debian testing)
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314 [03:34:29] <poxifide> none of the other servers i connect to have this issue. (else i wouldn't be here talking to you through this client heh.)
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325 [03:45:30] <slm2> [04:41] *demp* fuck off with your channel #israel from freenode this is not a political or a place for cyberwars!! i mail already rivlin! [04:42] *demp* if your channel not present i 24h a new concept i will destry you and your frieds!!! [04:42] Can't use this command in this window [04:42] *demp* likud fucker [04:43] *demp* ou don't like support FOSS and PEACE in Israel tha n fuck off wwith your friends from FN!
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327 [03:46:09] <Nothing4You> slm2: unless you wanna get banned you should not post that here
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329 [03:46:24] <slm2> sorry wrong channel
330 [03:46:35] <`whoami`> btw I like the way your client *bolds* nicknames
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332 [03:48:21] <Nothing4You> it's probably not his considering he's using webchat
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334 [03:48:29] <Nothing4You> i don't think webchat does that?
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336 [03:49:02] <slm2> sorry my english is not so good
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338 [03:49:19] <slm2> and my windows is broken :)
339 [03:49:22] <somiaj> anyways this is off topic and slm2 joined here to say things that do break policy here
340 [03:49:25] <poxifide> Nothing4You: i'm thinking the host got blocked. i made an ssh tunnel through my google server and it connected fine.
341 [03:49:35] <somiaj> `whoami`: it is probably your client *bolding* the things between astricts.
342 [03:49:58] <Nothing4You> poxifide: great, firewalls are always a great thing resulting in understandable issues
343 [03:50:00] <somiaj> poxifide: if using fail2ban or denyhost, you can correct that.
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345 [03:50:27] <somiaj> (well thinking you got autoblocked, not you configure a firewall to block you)
346 [03:50:27] <poxifide> i think it's blocked on their end
347 [03:50:38] <poxifide> i have no control over their host
348 [03:50:45] <`whoami`> somiaj: Yes indeed, it does. What I meant is using asterisks instead of <> to enclose nicknames is nice. But yeah, it's pretty much offtopic :)
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599 [07:31:52] <Psyb3rN4ut> anyone here good at systemd routing?
600 [07:32:19] <ksk> !tell Psyb3rN4ut about smart questions
601 [07:32:36] <xar-> !tell xar- about smart questions
602 [07:32:46] <ksk> !tell xar- about selftell
603 [07:33:02] <xar-> !tell ksk about !telling xar- about selftell :D
604 [07:33:12] * xar- universe explodes
605 [07:33:17] <Psyb3rN4ut> !tell Psyb3rN4ut about systemd-networkd
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608 [07:34:09] <xar-> cool bot, and I think ksk is trying to tell you your question is bad Psyb3rN4ut
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611 [07:34:41] <xar-> assume the answer is yes, what's the /real/ question
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617 [07:37:50] <Psyb3rN4ut> xar-: so i read teh #before part...and i have been at this googling and ircing for a couple weeks...
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621 [07:39:11] <ksk> dont ask if anyone is good at X, just ask your question
622 [07:39:34] <Psyb3rN4ut> xar-: i have built a new router using nftables and systemd....and i am missing something to allow me to route between networks inside LAN...LAN --> WAN and reverse work fine
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625 [07:40:22] <xar-> sorry, no where did I imply that /I/ would be the person that would have the answer
626 [07:40:22] <Psyb3rN4ut> ksk: would you like a paste of nftables firewall and relevant infs and routing table?
627 [07:40:52] <ksk> It might be handy. I will not be able to answer though, sorry :P
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629 [07:41:02] <Psyb3rN4ut> xar-: perhaps you know of someone who may know?
630 [07:41:05] <xar-> I do
631 [07:41:06] <ksk> what handles the lan<-> wan routing? systemd-networkfoo?
632 [07:41:13] <xar-> this:
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634 [07:41:15] <xar-> replaced-url
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636 [07:41:37] <Psyb3rN4ut> ksk: systemd-networkd+nftables
637 [07:41:38] <xar-> it's a mailing list, email it, /maybe/ you will get a response
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640 [07:42:09] <xar-> there's also a #debian-systemd channel on the OFTC irc network, but no idea how active it is
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642 [07:44:19] <Psyb3rN4ut> i have set routes for all netwks and infs....but it seems only the default route is actually getting routed....the rest can only ping from directly connected device
643 [07:46:06] <bunnypuncher> take a look at /etc/sysctl.conf is forwarding enabled
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646 [07:47:06] <Psyb3rN4ut> the inf1s0.network files have in [Route] IPForward=yes and sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1
647 [07:47:12] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: ^^
648 [07:47:42] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: wanna see the temporary nftables i have?
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650 [07:48:14] <bunnypuncher> sure
651 [07:48:20] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: one sec
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655 [07:49:30] <Psyb3rN4ut> replaced-url
656 [07:49:35] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: ^^
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658 [07:50:46] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: this is obviously not a real config....just to make sure is working...will configure sets for interfaces and ports as well as block nmap-ish scanning once it all works
659 [07:50:49] <bunnypuncher> so your trying to masquerade ppp to your internal network
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661 [07:51:31] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: ppp0 is my WAN interface...that part works fine
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663 [07:51:55] <bunnypuncher> and you want to have your internal net forward out ppp0
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665 [07:52:47] <Psyb3rN4ut> but .0.0/24 network on enp19s0 cannot ping 4.0/24 network on enp19s0
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667 [07:53:27] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: my internal net is NATed and working fine to WAN....im ircing over it now
668 [07:53:54] <bunnypuncher> ah ok
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670 [07:54:46] <Psyb3rN4ut> but cant ping or ssh accross the router....the router can ping both 0.0/24 and 0.4/24...but they cannot traverse the router to talk to each other
671 [07:55:20] <bunnypuncher> and I see icmp in your config
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673 [07:55:48] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: it seems that the routers only forward to the default route...not to any static route
674 [07:55:58] <bunnypuncher> so it is looking like it should work
675 [07:56:08] <bunnypuncher> what is the output of netstat -nr
676 [07:56:13] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: yes...as the policy is to drop...i needed to expicitly allow icmp
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678 [07:57:12] <Psyb3rN4ut> replaced-url
679 [07:57:25] <bunnypuncher> have you tried putting the allow before the deny?
680 [07:58:02] <bunnypuncher> the other networks don't have a gateway
681 [07:59:01] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: the LAN interfaces should not need one
682 [07:59:39] <bunnypuncher> then nothing will be forwarded to the other network just like what you are seeing
683 [07:59:52] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: the "ip protocol icmp accept" is the first match for its type to accept
684 [08:00:04] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: wha?
685 [08:00:56] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: all the tutorials say not to set a gateway on LAN interfaces
686 [08:01:33] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: perhaps i misunderstand something...what do i set the gateway to on an internal LAN interface?
687 [08:02:20] <bunnypuncher> this isn't my strongest area and i use iptables for this
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689 [08:02:38] <bunnypuncher> so I'm talking it out with u
690 [08:02:42] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: its ok...the nftables is fine
691 [08:03:02] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: if you ever want to upgrade...talk to me
692 [08:03:33] <bunnypuncher> I usually have to add the gateway ip for it to work
693 [08:03:39] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: its the routing table and systemd .network files that are getting me ...im pretty sure...
694 [08:03:57] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: ok...what ip do i give it?
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696 [08:04:53] <bunnypuncher> the ip of the enp device for the network
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700 [08:06:47] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: as in i set gateway on enp2s0 of server to ip of enp10s0 of router...so the setting is on the end node and not the router? if so...i did that
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703 [08:07:49] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: if my router iterface connected to .4.0/24 network also needs a Gateway?
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706 [08:08:40] <bunnypuncher> I would try adding the gateway to both but one at a time
707 [08:08:44] <bunnypuncher> only add it if you need it
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709 [08:09:39] <bunnypuncher> that was what got my IPtables setup working but mine was little bit different setup and all internal VM networks
710 [08:10:02] <bunnypuncher> other than that it looks like it should work
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712 [08:10:36] <bunnypuncher> did you reboot after changing /etc/sysctl.conf or did you run the command to updated the kernel directly?
713 [08:10:56] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: have rebooted....
714 [08:11:05] <bunnypuncher> ok that one got me too
715 [08:11:35] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: also...i am behind two routers.....this is the temporary routing table of the inner one: replaced-url
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717 [08:12:18] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: and the enp19s0.network file....
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719 [08:13:09] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: enp19s0 is the interface on the inner side of the inner router...as you can see...no gateway...and i am on irc with you now just fine
720 [08:13:38] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: but that is using the default route for both routers...
721 [08:13:58] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: if i want to get at a box in the dmz...i cant...
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723 [08:14:28] <bunnypuncher> the only way it is going to know which one to send it out is via the gateway unless there is a set rule to forward too
724 [08:14:49] <bunnypuncher> you can set rules for where to forward too and not need the gateway setting
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726 [08:15:40] <bunnypuncher> if the gateway setting does fix it you can then add forward rules for ports remove the gateway setting if you want
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728 [08:16:00] <bunnypuncher> is that the way the tutorials do it
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731 [08:17:53] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: the gateway sets the default route...so if no OTHER route matches...then packets get routed to the default....but i have routes in the table to the networks that i want
732 [08:18:54] <bunnypuncher> ah then you are right you probably not need the gateway setting if you have the rules to networks you want
733 [08:19:08] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: for example...the .4.0/24 network is mapped to the enp10s0 interface....so if i ping any ip on the .4.0/24 network it should go out the enp10s0 interface no?
734 [08:19:14] <bunnypuncher> do you have nft logging enabled to see what it is doing
735 [08:19:49] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: yes....but nft needs explicit logging
736 [08:19:51] <bunnypuncher> I would try adding log rules for all those route rules and see what is going on
737 [08:20:15] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: nice idea
738 [08:21:24] <bunnypuncher> that will tell you if it is dropping it because it can't find the right route
739 [08:21:46] <bunnypuncher> cause without that data I'm stumped
740 [08:23:41] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: ok...so i added the .4.0/24 interface to ipv4_postrouting oifname masquerade...but i did not want double NAT
741 [08:23:50] <bunnypuncher> I always have these types of problems with routing. I keep telling myself I should study networking more but I never do lol
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746 [08:26:06] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: i have a CCNA...but couldnt get a job with it....havnt ever really used it...just a short job with actual cisco hw...all the rest juniper, MikroTik, and plain old Linux
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749 [08:26:49] <bunnypuncher> I'm more of unix / linux guru then network one. I do have RHCE that work paid for
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751 [08:27:40] <bunnypuncher> but with logging turned on you can see what is happening and then adjust. I guess adding the default gateway is more my preference then a requirement
752 [08:27:43] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: nice...i am a fan of the lpic certs...but redhat brings some awesome stuff to linux....like dracut
753 [08:28:37] <bunnypuncher> I'm not too big on certs but work paid for it and got a trip to California to take a class for it so what the heck
754 [08:28:41] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: i still dont understand...what DG do i set for a LAN facing interface on a router?
755 [08:29:04] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: the WAN interface or the next-hop?
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757 [08:29:52] <bunnypuncher> I used the WAN interface (in my case it was another virt nic but same idea)
758 [08:30:12] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: also...when i used masquerade to NAT it...i works now...but i did not want double NAT
759 [08:31:04] <bunnypuncher> yea adding latency for nothing albeit a small amount
760 [08:31:48] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: also does a number on sip
761 [08:32:29] <Psyb3rN4ut> bunnypuncher: ill put the kamaillio in the dmz...so only single nat for now
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785 [08:54:57] <open> help List
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798 [09:06:37] <open> #help list
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800 [09:07:22] <annadane> open, what are you trying to search for
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802 [09:08:11] <open> i try to search french channel. i no speak english well
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804 [09:08:26] <annadane> !fr
805 [09:08:27] <dpkg> Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
806 [09:08:52] <open> thank
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811 [09:14:52] <elios> open: /msg alis list <topic>
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821 [09:24:21] <vlad_> Is there a place like .bashrc but called only when the system boots?
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1184 [10:30:41] *** viper is now known as Guest51651
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1186 [10:31:01] *** Seminole is now known as Wanna-Sk
1187 [10:31:01] *** ice39 is now known as [ToXiC]
1188 [10:31:01] *** Car1nna is now known as sameer11
1189 [10:31:01] *** scorpion is now known as ansh
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1191 [10:31:01] *** siryn is now known as coco-e
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1197 [10:31:01] *** CannonHa is now known as Sarenna2
1198 [10:31:01] *** mp3z is now known as HUNTER
1199 [10:31:01] *** Trickych is now known as tomahill
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1201 [10:31:01] *** bler is now known as badgirlU
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1203 [10:31:01] *** jamesbon is now known as SMOKEY
1204 [10:31:01] *** MichiKo is now known as {Azrael}
1205 [10:31:01] *** Wanna-Sk was kicked by debhelper (NICK flooder)
1206 [10:31:01] *** hawk_rid is now known as ThePengu
1207 [10:31:01] *** josee is now known as lolitagi
1208 [10:31:01] *** flexster is now known as FlashGur
1209 [10:31:01] *** chawdog is now known as hiem
1210 [10:31:01] *** justyb is now known as ZetaN
1211 [10:31:01] *** Kuzey is now known as Laa
1212 [10:31:01] *** Krings is now known as tiny16
1213 [10:31:01] *** StUcK2[S is now known as temporar
1214 [10:31:01] *** sgtpeppe is now known as an0maly
1215 [10:31:01] *** ayca is now known as AKz[Z]
1216 [10:31:01] *** Judy^ is now known as slayer
1217 [10:31:01] *** [cdp]Man is now known as GOGETTER
1218 [10:31:01] *** SXEman is now known as cifchamp
1219 [10:31:01] *** lilber is now known as BarbieGi
1220 [10:31:01] *** coolguy is now known as simarik-
1221 [10:31:01] *** amie is now known as ace_mj
1222 [10:31:01] *** chazgirl is now known as desenn
1223 [10:31:02] *** carebea1 is now known as male
1224 [10:31:02] *** GaVa is now known as Metabo
1225 [10:31:02] *** fiveunde is now known as Ripple
1226 [10:31:02] *** sydney-1 is now known as priti
1227 [10:31:02] *** smike is now known as d3stinY
1228 [10:31:02] *** Defco is now known as rd
1229 [10:31:02] *** [ToXiC] is now known as blueboy
1230 [10:31:02] *** ansh is now known as huggy
1231 [10:31:02] *** flobbled is now known as Aussie
1232 [10:31:02] *** coco-e is now known as OCoorva
1233 [10:31:02] *** iphantom is now known as Optimus8
1234 [10:31:02] *** PATTY is now known as Judy^
1235 [10:31:02] *** misstoro is now known as damsel1
1236 [10:31:02] *** HUNTER is now known as reshma
1237 [10:31:02] *** Sarenna2 is now known as PelvisRe
1238 [10:31:02] *** tomahill is now known as Burcu
1239 [10:31:02] *** ruedog is now known as puregold
1240 [10:31:02] *** vienna is now known as IaNMaN
1241 [10:31:02] *** male is now known as staryeye
1242 [10:31:02] *** Steve is now known as amigdala
1243 [10:31:02] *** priti is now known as sure-sho
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1245 [10:31:02] *** Ripple is now known as Sandyman
1246 [10:31:02] *** Italian_ is now known as chicoric
1247 [10:31:02] *** ThePengu is now known as ass-hat
1248 [10:31:03] *** hiem is now known as maxxguy
1249 [10:31:03] *** lolitagi is now known as Wanna-Sk
1250 [10:31:03] *** tiny16 is now known as wesha
1251 [10:31:03] *** Laa is now known as xtai
1252 [10:31:03] *** FlashGur is now known as babe`E`b
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1258 [10:31:03] *** desenn is now known as carebea1
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1262 [10:31:03] *** SMOKEY is now known as Defco
1263 [10:31:03] *** ZetaN is now known as Derj
1264 [10:31:03] *** Leechboy is now known as zorprime
1265 [10:31:03] *** simarik- is now known as DexterBo
1266 [10:31:03] *** an0maly is now known as Lisa25
1267 [10:31:03] *** badgirlU is now known as siryn
1268 [10:31:04] *** BarbieGi is now known as Miriam
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1271 [10:31:06] *** Squid_ma is now known as wampir
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1277 [10:31:10] *** puregold is now known as ^Hosehea
1278 [10:31:10] *** OCoorva is now known as crimsont
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1668 [11:10:28] <digdilem> kids, eh?
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1690 [11:21:35] <jelly> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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1692 [11:22:39] <FightingFalcon> will a hard reset cause data loss?
1693 [11:23:02] <jelly> it can, depending on your filesystem
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1695 [11:23:40] <nkuttler> and what you consider data
1696 [11:23:57] <jelly> dirty buffers not written to disk yet won't ever be written
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1698 [11:24:39] <demonblue> I tried xfs but gone back to ext4, seems safer
1699 [11:24:53] <FightingFalcon> I have websites in my server, website files, mysql databases and i had to hard reset... so anything from these lost?
1700 [11:25:37] <jelly> FightingFalcon: latest writes might be lost, and data structures might need checking, that means things like filesystems and databases
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1702 [11:26:29] <FightingFalcon> what command checks them?
1703 [11:27:14] <jelly> filesystem checks (fsck command) are usually done automatically at reboot
1704 [11:27:39] <annadane> ^
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1706 [11:27:46] <jelly> FightingFalcon: mysql has its own mysqlcheck and will tell you in its logs whether they're needed I think
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1727 [11:43:57] <XsiSec> hello everyone i have am running 'Linux d0m 4.9.0-6-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.88-1+deb9u1 (2018-05-07) x86_64 GNU/Linux' suddenly when I trying for instance run bleachbit from terminal lik 'sudo bleachbit' it says: cannot open , and this happens to any application. from a mistake I installed "xdm", then I uninstalled it by apt-get remove xdm , apt-get purge xdm. how do I restore it?
1728 [11:44:21] <annadane> um... apt install xdm?
1729 [11:45:20] <XsiSec> 'sudo apt-get install xdm'
1730 [11:45:41] <annadane> mhm
1731 [11:45:57] <annadane> ,i xdm
1732 [11:45:58] <judd> Package xdm (x11, optional) in stretch/amd64: X display manager. Version: 1:1.1.11-3; Size: 184.4k; Installed: 665k; Screenshot: replaced-url
1733 [11:45:59] <XsiSec> since that not any gui-based app work to run from terminal
1734 [11:46:13] <annadane> that'd probably be why, yeah
1735 [11:46:43] <somiaj> sudo is often poor for getting gui apps to run as root
1736 [11:46:58] <XsiSec> but what I am trying to say that
1737 [11:47:04] <somiaj> I don't see why a display manager would do this, but maybe it is an enviorment thing and your DISPLAY variable isn't set correctly
1738 [11:47:17] <XsiSec> I need to get rid of it and got the xfce4 autoconfigured as it was before I guess
1739 [11:47:44] <XsiSec> I can show the log
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1741 [11:48:21] <somiaj> and by any apps, do you mean any app run by sudo or any app run at all?
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1743 [11:48:25] <XsiSec> replaced-url
1744 [11:48:39] <somiaj> I don't click on pastebin.com links, try a pastebin that desont' use javascript
1745 [11:48:41] <somiaj> and adds
1746 [11:48:48] <XsiSec> yeah the 'sudo' command works fine
1747 [11:48:57] <annadane> i'll do it for you
1748 [11:49:02] <somiaj> what do you mean the sudo command works fine?
1749 [11:49:16] <XsiSec> this is another example --> replaced-url
1750 [11:49:16] <annadane> replaced-url
1751 [11:49:30] <annadane> replaced-url
1752 [11:50:11] <somiaj> as I said, sudo is poor for running gui apps as root
1753 [11:50:26] <somiaj> there are various things needed, but maybe sudo DISPLAY=:0 command will help
1754 [11:50:58] <somiaj> though I thik policykit or other tools are better usedf or such a think. There use to be a gksu, well it is still in stable, that is better for running gui apps as root
1755 [11:51:05] <somiaj> sudo cleans to much of the enviroment often
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1758 [11:52:06] <XsiSec> replaced-url
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1760 [11:52:47] <annadane> why did i never think of that?
1761 [11:52:53] <annadane> (don't answer that)
1762 [11:53:20] <somiaj> XsiSec: you need to run a command
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1764 [11:53:32] <somiaj> all the DISPLAY=:0 does is set the display enviorment variable
1765 [11:53:45] <XsiSec> I got a hint
1766 [11:54:01] <XsiSec> replaced-url
1767 [11:54:09] <XsiSec> like you said somiaj yeah
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1769 [11:54:20] <XsiSec> cannot open display: :0.0
1770 [11:54:42] <somiaj> why are you running thsee commands as root
1771 [11:54:47] <somiaj> are you runing your xorg as root?
1772 [11:55:01] <XsiSec> dunno :S
1773 [11:55:07] <XsiSec> I dont think so
1774 [11:55:26] <somiaj> root@d0m:/home/xsisec# gksudo thunar -- you ran that command as root
1775 [11:55:29] <XsiSec> I solved it by use --> 'xhost +SI:localuser:root'
1776 [11:55:52] <somiaj> but I think you are doing something worng if you need to run all this stuff as root
1777 [11:56:03] <XsiSec> I don't
1778 [11:56:20] <XsiSec> I dont need to I just to it to have the possibles to move things in filesystem
1779 [11:56:56] <somiaj> I would just get use to using a terminal, running gui apps as root is often not suggested
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1781 [11:57:16] <XsiSec> but thank you a lot @sominaj and @annadane solved ^
1782 [11:57:19] <somiaj> and really what system files are you needing to move?
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1787 [12:00:38] <XsiSec> not really but like between downloads to usr/share/themes/
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1791 [12:02:44] <somiaj> one should nto be installing stuff in /usr/share
1792 [12:02:59] <somiaj> if you want to install themes using the proper location in $HOME
1793 [12:03:46] <somiaj> in general on debian systems anythying in /usr should only be installed/removed by debian packages, adn no files in that location should be manually modified
1794 [12:04:21] <somiaj> (note /usr/local is a good location for system wide local stuff, but for themes, espically with one user, all this stuff can safely be put in $HOME and not need any root assistance)
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1800 [12:08:00] <XsiSec> ok thanks for the help
1801 [12:08:06] <XsiSec> I will go with that
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1903 [13:31:19] <nickleon> how to install compiz
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1905 [13:31:49] <annadane> ,v compiz
1906 [13:31:50] <judd> Package: compiz on amd64 -- stretch: 1:0.9.13.0+16.10.20160818.2-5.1; stretch-backports: 1:0.9.13.1+18.04.20171116-1~bpo9+1; buster: 1:0.9.13.1+18.04.20180302-1; sid: 1:0.9.13.1+18.04.20180302-1
1907 [13:31:56] <annadane> apt install compiz
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1912 [13:35:15] <nickleon> thanks but any direct repo ?
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1915 [13:35:27] <annadane> it's already in stretch
1916 [13:35:39] <nickleon> with all plugins ?
1917 [13:35:39] <annadane> what debian version are you using
1918 [13:35:48] <nickleon> 7
1919 [13:35:48] <annadane> well that i don't know, i can do a quick check
1920 [13:35:52] <annadane> oh 7
1921 [13:36:01] <nickleon> You?
1922 [13:36:09] <annadane> well beyond being ancient and you should upgrade...
1923 [13:36:41] <annadane> 7 doesn't receive security support anymore, the latest debian stable is 9
1924 [13:36:45] <nickleon> yea i will need new i guess
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1926 [13:37:17] <annadane> if you do update to 9 you'd have to go through 8 first
1927 [13:37:17] <nickleon> i forgot that about security thing
1928 [13:37:27] <annadane> can't jump 2 versions
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1930 [13:37:35] <nickleon> there is nothing secure in INTERNET by the way
1931 [13:38:26] <annadane> generally the answer to "how do i install foo when it's not packaged for debian" is "download it to its own folder or compile it yourself" but for something like compiz i'm not sure how you'd even make it work
1932 [13:39:13] <nickleon> google fb microsoft amazone etc all websites are cache and sell info so no one is secure over internet
1933 [13:39:24] <annadane> yeah, that
1934 [13:39:28] <annadane> 's not at all how it works
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1939 [13:41:29] <annadane> i guess you can probably look on snapshots.debian.org for the debian 7 version of compiz and dpkg -i it, or something
1940 [13:41:50] <nickleon> i am downloading new debian 9
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1942 [13:42:17] <nickleon> also i found instruction here replaced-url
1943 [13:42:30] <nickleon> thanks for your help
1944 [13:43:13] <annadane> yeah those instructions are really old
1945 [13:43:19] <annadane> and you shouldn't actually follow them
1946 [13:43:30] <nickleon> darn i figured out lately
1947 [13:43:33] <annadane> and if you're going to be using 9 anyway you can just apt install it
1948 [13:44:01] <nickleon> yea downloading new version
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1950 [13:44:50] <annadane> and those are instructions for debian 6 too so it wouldn't work anyway
1951 [13:45:04] <annadane> 3 versions behind is a bit embarrasing even for debian wiki standards
1952 [13:45:26] <nickleon> yea 7 support ended in july [01 Jun 2018] Debian 7 Long Term Support reaching end-of-life
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1992 [14:18:13] <iron_houzi> Can someone please help me find the rngd systemd service unit file? After installing `rng-tools`, the systemd unit was started by failed immeditately. `systemctl status rng-tools` shows file `/etc/init.d/rng-tools` was used, but this is a shell script, not a systemd unit file .. I'm on Debian version 9.3
1993 [14:18:28] <iron_houzi> I am able to run rngd manually just fine
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2002 [14:24:06] <nickleon> hello can we play soft require OpenGL 4.3+ in lower opengl 2.1
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2005 [14:26:59] <iron_houzi> Oh, I think rng-tools doesn't come with a systemd unit file installed. Do I need to do anything to disable the sysv init.d script before creating my own systemd unit file?
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2007 [14:29:04] <ksk> iron_houzi: nah, Id assume magic will hapen (no pun intended)
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2009 [14:29:34] <ksk> like unit-file in /etc/systemd/system taking priority over a "fallback to parsing sysv initfile"
2010 [14:29:35] <iron_houzi> ksk: what do you mean?
2011 [14:29:42] <iron_houzi> ok
2012 [14:29:49] <ksk> dont forget to deamon-reload before though :)
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2014 [14:30:26] <iron_houzi> yeah, for systemd, thanks. I often forget about that one
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2024 [14:36:44] <iron_houzi> ksk: Hang on, this means the systemd service must have the same name as the sysv service, so the magic can do it's thing, right?
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2026 [14:37:47] <iron_houzi> I guess it would be bad practice to delete or modify a file that came installed by a deb package..
2027 [14:37:54] <iron_houzi> right?
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2033 [14:39:48] <jelly> iron_houzi, if you're managing the same functionality with a custom unit, you can systemctl mask the packaged one
2034 [14:40:50] <iron_houzi> jelly: it's the rng-tools package, which doesn't come with systemd unit file, only legacy init.d script which actually fails..
2035 [14:40:50] <jelly> and then it needn't have the same name
2036 [14:41:13] <iron_houzi> jelly: You can only mask a systemd service, right?
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2039 [14:42:44] <jelly> yes, but systemd backward compatibility with init scripts works in such a way to generate a separate unit for each init script and you can mask that.
2040 [14:43:14] <jollyjester> Hello
2041 [14:43:16] <jelly> it does the same thing with fstab lines
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2043 [14:43:22] <jollyjester> How can I configure NGINX to use php-fpm
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2048 [14:44:22] <iron_houzi> jelly: Is this unit file generation suposed to be automated?
2049 [14:44:33] <jelly> yes, and it is
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2051 [14:44:57] <jelly> see systemd-sysv-generator(8)
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2053 [14:46:01] <iron_houzi> jelly: OK, I wonder why this didn't kick in when I installed rng-tools then
2054 [14:46:48] <jelly> it must have, but perhaps the init script is actually misbehaving
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2057 [14:47:41] <jelly> what does "systemctl status rng-tools" say?
2058 [14:47:59] <iron_houzi> hang on ..
2059 [14:48:08] <jelly> !paste
2060 [14:48:08] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: replaced-url
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2062 [14:49:19] <jelly> replaced-url
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2065 [14:51:29] <iron_houzi> jelly: replaced-url
2066 [14:51:30] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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2069 [14:52:27] <iron_houzi> jelly: I basically want to start rngd like this: `rngd -f -r /dev/urandom --hrng=intelfwh`
2070 [14:52:45] <jelly> iron_houzi, which debian release is this? Does /dev/hwrng exist? If not you'll probably have to configure the service
2071 [14:52:49] <iron_houzi> I think the script fails because the default read file is /dev/hwrng
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2073 [14:53:05] <iron_houzi> jelly: Interesting. I'm on 9.3
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2075 [14:53:45] <iron_houzi> jelly: But I don't think I have TPM, I want to use rngd to utilize rdrand instruction on intel cpu
2076 [14:53:54] <jelly> iron_houzi, edit /etc/default/rng-tools appropriately, I guess
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2078 [14:54:35] <iron_houzi> jelly: ..or do you know if the service that ensures /dev/hwrng can use intel rdrand instruction instead of TPM?
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2081 [14:56:00] <jelly> I have no idea but vaguely remember it was maybe left out of the kernel intentionally?
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2083 [14:56:39] <iron_houzi> jelly: OK, so do you think it's better to work with the bundled script than trying to make my own systemd unit file?
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2090 [14:58:09] <jelly> iron_houzi, it's probably better to edit a config file than to make your own new unit
2091 [14:58:25] <jelly> or easier
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2093 [14:58:36] <iron_houzi> jelly: Thank you for your input!
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2096 [14:59:46] <jelly> fwiw, that init script fails on me an ivybridge machine too; works on a haswell one (which does have a tpm)
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2098 [15:02:52] <iron_houzi> You can try with -r /dev/urandom --hwrng=intelfwh
2099 [15:02:55] <iron_houzi> jelly:
2100 [15:03:03] <jelly> it works that way.
2101 [15:04:10] <jollyjester> despacito
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2105 [15:04:54] <iron_houzi> jelly: I was contemplating the effects of using rngd this way, but it seems fine to me since we're gaining raw entropy from the hw, mixing it with /dev/urandom, which populates /dev/random .. Do you agree with this assessement?
2106 [15:05:14] <iron_houzi> jelly: available entropy shot up from < 100 to > 3000
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2112 [15:08:33] <jsavalle> hi, nginx keep crashing on one of my servers, leaving apparently no trace - I checked logs, journal - and I cannot see an ounce of what │ a--m
2113 [15:08:36] <jsavalle> | would suddenly triggered nginx shutting down. Any idea wher
2114 [15:08:42] <jsavalle> oups - sorry
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2119 [15:11:00] <jelly> iron_houzi, I'm not sure -r /dev/urandom is a good idea at all
2120 [15:11:00] <jsavalle> so, rephrasing properly - I have an issue with nginx randomly crashing, leaving seemingly no trace in the regular logs/journals, and I just don't have any idea where to look - so any suggestion would be welcome
2121 [15:11:30] <iron_houzi> jelly: I was worried about that as well. Could you please elaborate?
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2127 [15:13:13] <jelly> iron_houzi, it's telling the kernel its own PRNG is filled with good, real random bits, which is a lie
2128 [15:13:34] <iron_houzi> jelly: I know that's the danger, but why is it a lie?
2129 [15:14:12] <jelly> because urandom is just a PRNG
2130 [15:14:53] <scarodj> Good morning community. Environment: Debian is 9.4.0 running on a VirtualBox v5.2.2 KDE Fw 5.28.0
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2132 [15:15:11] <iron_houzi> jelly: Yes, but isn't rngd mixing the PRNG with real RNG from the rdrand feature on the Intel CPU?
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2135 [15:15:49] <scarodj> issue is after installing PacketTracer 7 it won't start because I don't have libcrypto.so.1.0.0
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2141 [15:16:51] <lostfile> that sucks
2142 [15:17:17] <lostfile> kinda like the time i installed mysql and it didnt work
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2144 [15:17:37] <jelly> iron_houzi, I don't know how rngd works, and how it does the mixing. If available entropy rises even without --hrng=intelfwh, then you know it's not an adequate measure
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2146 [15:17:55] <scarodj> in my research I have found this is part of ssl but I can't find either through apt-get or downloading the packages
2147 [15:18:49] <lostfile> i had to do some thing with with socks in order to get it working i cant remember what i did tho
2148 [15:18:54] <iron_houzi> jelly: OK, could you please back up your statement with a reasoning?
2149 [15:20:31] <jelly> iron_houzi, if you're feeding the kernel bits it generated itself via rgnd, and it thinks that's good enough... that's probably not good enough
2150 [15:21:09] <jelly> because how do you know that --hrng=intelfwh thing does _anything_ then?
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2152 [15:22:08] <iron_houzi> jelly: Interesting point. I'll try to use /dev/null as well, just for fun
2153 [15:22:41] <jelly> that's what I tried first, and the thing did not want to start
2154 [15:23:27] <iron_houzi> yeah
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2159 [15:25:18] <iron_houzi> Anyways, this is where I started off hours ago: I needed /dev/random to be fed entropy from a hw source, namely CPU rdrand. I thought rngd would do this .. but now I'm kind of back on square 1.
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2161 [15:25:59] <iron_houzi> jelly: ^^ and do you know of any other ways to feed /dev/random with entropy from rdrand?
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2167 [15:28:00] <jelly> iron_houzi, also, intelfwh isn't rdrand at all, it's an intel chipset thing
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2170 [15:28:15] <ssd256g> I installed Debian 9 on a 256GB SSD. I have 8GB of RAM and did not create a swap partition. I have noticed my system becomes very slow and unresponsive when a transfer over 30GB of data to my external USB hard disk. Do I need to create a swap partition?
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2177 [15:29:54] <jelly> iron_houzi, googling rngd and rdrand shows replaced-url
2178 [15:29:56] <monty86> hello, last time I used debian stable was back in 2011. The PHP package was very old, even in testing it was old
2179 [15:30:12] <monty86> with opensuse tumbleweed (rolling distro), I always get the latest PHP package quickly
2180 [15:30:23] <monty86> how come debian testing still has the old version?
2181 [15:31:16] <iron_houzi> jelly: Oh, there are two rng-tools packages!
2182 [15:32:37] <iron_houzi> jelly: ..but if --hwrng=intelfwh did increase my entropy and didn't cause any errors, don't you think my system supports intelfwh then?
2183 [15:33:08] <jelly> iron_houzi, it probably does. But it's still not rdrand.
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2185 [15:33:47] <iron_houzi> jelly: I understand they are different. But do you know if one is better than the other, and if so why it's better?
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2188 [15:34:18] <jelly> iron_houzi, I know almost nothing about those sources or rngd
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2191 [15:34:49] <jelly> <jelly> iron_houzi, also, intelfwh isn't rdrand at all, it's an intel chipset thing # I just RTFM
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2196 [15:37:08] <iron_houzi> jelly: OK, but we know that intelfwh is HW based RNG and if I saw my entropy encrease after enabling it, then your earlier statement about using /dev/urandom doesn't necessarily hold true, if rngd does infact mix in actual RNG from intelfwh with PRNG from /dev/urandom. Do you agree?
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2198 [15:37:57] <iron_houzi> big if, right now obviously .. I need to read more
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2200 [15:38:24] <jelly> my statement was entropy_avail increase did not mean much if it increased even without any --hrng
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2202 [15:39:13] <jelly> amusingly, rng-tools5 _only_ have a systemd unit and no init script
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2205 [15:40:21] <jelly> monty86, testing and unstable branches can have holdups for various reasons. These are not rolling releases.
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2207 [15:40:36] <jelly> ,v php7.2
2208 [15:40:37] <judd> Package: php7.2 on amd64 -- buster: 7.2.4-1; sid: 7.2.4-1
2209 [15:40:43] <jelly> ,v php7.1
2210 [15:40:44] <judd> Package: php7.1 on amd64 -- sid: 7.1.0-5; buster: 7.1.16-1; sid: 7.1.16-1
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2221 [15:49:48] <ssd256g> Even tough I have NO swap partition when I execute cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness I get 60 as a result. Can anyone explain why?
2222 [15:51:46] <blackflow> ssd256g: because the kernel module is still present even though you don't have a swap defined?
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2228 [15:54:00] <ssd256g> Do I need to create a swap partition to solve the slowness and unresponsiveness I encounter whenever a transfer over 30GB to my USB external hard disk?
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2230 [15:55:10] <blackflow> ssd256g: no, swap is about paging out unused memory, has nothing to do with IO, and in fact can even affect it negatively, in case of swapping activity during unrelated IO
2231 [15:55:48] <blackflow> the responsiveness issue you get, is afaik a known problem in linux. how are you transfering files? it would help to use a different block size, and use (io)nice as well
2232 [15:57:09] <ssd256g> i transfer files from my laptop to my USB external hard drive via USB cable. The cable is OK
2233 [15:57:30] <blackflow> ssd256g: with which command?
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2238 [15:59:08] <ssd256g> Using caja, the file manager that comes with MATE
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2246 [16:04:44] <monty86> can someone test if the package flamerobin installs and runs?
2247 [16:04:56] <monty86> in debian stable or testing
2248 [16:05:13] <Luki_Stormhunter> On apt-get?
2249 [16:05:28] <monty86> yeah
2250 [16:05:36] <Luki_Stormhunter> Sure thing hold up
2251 [16:06:03] <monty86> on opensuse, it installs fine but doesn't run due to depency mismatch
2252 [16:07:24] <Luki_Stormhunter> Installs and runs just fine ^_^
2253 [16:07:33] <Luki_Stormhunter> FlameRobin Database, correct?
2254 [16:08:25] <monty86> yeah
2255 [16:08:30] <monty86> great thanks for confirming
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2261 [16:10:28] <Luki_Stormhunter> No problemo :D
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2374 [17:24:45] <monty86> does btrfs protect against bitrot?
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2402 [17:39:31] <RoyK> monty86: by design, yes
2403 [17:41:26] <RoyK> monty86: but t's not stable yet, although they call it that since its format is fixed - some people abuse the word "stable" for "fixed"
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2417 [17:49:54] <salshabila> ehy guys, i'd like to install debian buster but i desperately need a program that was designed for debian stretch. is there any way to install it in buster? it's ROS
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2420 [17:51:39] <RoyK> !debian next
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2423 [17:52:02] <RoyK> dpkg: debian next
2424 [17:52:02] <dpkg> bugger all, i dunno, RoyK
2425 [17:52:10] * RoyK slaps dpkg
2426 [17:52:34] <RoyK> salshabila: you need to ask on #debian-next on irc.oftc.net - this channel is for stable
2427 [17:52:49] <salshabila> ok! thank you
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2430 [17:53:55] <salshabila> RoyK: can't join debian-next
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2450 [18:09:42] <monty862> in irc, is it possible to login to the same server using the same account from 2 diff computers?
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2461 [18:14:07] <mtn> monty862: not with the same nick at the same time, no
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2463 [18:16:21] <monty862> oh ok
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2468 [18:17:13] <yasir> hi
2469 [18:17:30] <yasir> i have prblem while installing git
2470 [18:17:56] <RoyK> dpkg: tell yasir about ask
2471 [18:17:58] <lostfile> on ubuntu or some other disro
2472 [18:18:06] <yasir> replaced-url
2473 [18:18:11] <yasir> no
2474 [18:18:15] <yasir> debian 9
2475 [18:18:43] <yasir> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
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2477 [18:18:45] <yasir> git : Depends: libpcre2-8-0 (>= 10.31) but 10.22-3 is to be installed
2478 [18:18:47] <yasir> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
2479 [18:18:56] <RoyK> guess you have some bad repos
2480 [18:19:00] <lessthan0> does the debian live cd recovery console have all the packages needed to resize2fs and shrink a LVM LV?
2481 [18:19:11] <RoyK> lessthan0: yes
2482 [18:19:18] <lessthan0> ok I will do that then
2483 [18:20:03] <RoyK> lessthan0: make sure you have a backup - brownish things may hit the fan
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2491 [18:23:27] <lessthan0> there is nothing at all in this installed os that I can't replace
2492 [18:23:34] <lessthan0> it is a fresh 0 day install
2493 [18:24:07] <lessthan0> all I did was patch the things that always break on fresh install but I can do that again easy
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2497 [18:26:29] <jhutchins> !debian-next
2498 [18:26:29] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
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2500 [18:27:27] <jhutchins> !bat
2501 [18:27:28] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
2502 [18:27:38] <jhutchins> yasir: ^
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2533 [18:43:09] <sensibel> I have booted centos 7 using live usb containing grml , I want to extend root partition what should I do next?
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2536 [18:43:50] <buu> So
2537 [18:44:11] <sensibel> buu: how can this be done ?
2538 [18:44:24] <buu> what
2539 [18:44:43] <sensibel> buu: extend root partition
2540 [18:45:04] <buu> use gparted
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2542 [18:45:57] <sensibel> I have opened gparted
2543 [18:46:13] <sensibel> but does not know how to do this
2544 [18:47:02] <jim> buu, hi, here's the situation... he has an lvm vol mounted on /home with 3.6 tb in that fs
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2546 [18:47:26] <buu> ok
2547 [18:47:38] <sensibel> jim: let me share the pic
2548 [18:47:56] <jim> how can he get to the vol in gparted? or can he?
2549 [18:48:18] <buu> replaced-url
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2552 [18:49:29] <sensibel> jim: here it is replaced-url
2553 [18:49:53] <yasir> hi
2554 [18:50:15] <jim> hi
2555 [18:50:35] <yasir> i m unable to install git
2556 [18:50:47] <jim> try git-core
2557 [18:50:48] <yasir> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
2558 [18:50:50] <yasir> git : Depends: libpcre2-8-0 (>= 10.31) but 10.22-3 is to be installed
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2563 [18:51:48] <jim> sensibel, can you double click where it says home?
2564 [18:51:52] <buu> I have a better question
2565 [18:51:59] <sensibel> jim: ok
2566 [18:52:22] <jim> what's that?
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2569 [18:52:34] <buu> How do you convince a headless linux box to realize it has a monitor plugged in
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2571 [18:53:36] <jim> if you hit a key, the VCs should show up
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2573 [18:54:23] <jim> buu, can you do the resizing of an lvm lv with gparted? is it the wrong tool?
2574 [18:55:30] <sensibel> jim: it is not showing /home in gparted
2575 [18:55:52] <jim> ok, gparted is apparantly the wrong tool
2576 [18:56:08] <jim> get out of that
2577 [18:56:30] <jim> exit from gparted
2578 [18:56:34] <sensibel> jim: fdisk now?
2579 [18:56:37] <jim> we'll do it another way
2580 [18:56:38] <jim> no
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2582 [18:56:58] <jim> we'll do it on the term
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2585 [18:57:13] <jim> the way we should have :)
2586 [18:57:14] <sensibel> jim: yes following
2587 [18:57:32] <jim> run this command: pvscan
2588 [18:57:37] <sensibel> ok
2589 [18:57:52] <jim> dpes it show the pv?
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2591 [18:59:06] <sensibel> let me share the pic
2592 [18:59:39] <lessthan0> how would I go about reading the source for the debian installer
2593 [18:59:47] <lessthan0> specifically the guided installer
2594 [18:59:56] <lessthan0> is that built on a script?
2595 [19:00:24] <lessthan0> more specifically the guided partitioning
2596 [19:00:37] <lessthan0> using forced EFI only installer
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2598 [19:01:14] <buu> "Here we are going to see how to reduce the Logical Volumes. Everyone say its critical and may end up with disaster while we reduce the lvm. Reducing lvm is really interesting than any other part in Logical volume management.
2599 [19:01:18] <buu> lol
2600 [19:01:31] <yasir_> hey
2601 [19:01:34] <buu> lessthan0: they're all part of the .deb and its dependencies
2602 [19:01:43] <jim> hi
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2604 [19:02:21] <jim> sensibel, what kind of filesystem is your /home? ext4?
2605 [19:02:57] <sensibel> jim: here it is replaced-url
2606 [19:03:06] <lessthan0> replaced-url
2607 [19:03:12] <lessthan0> this looks like it
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2610 [19:04:07] <jim> sensibel, vgchange -a y
2611 [19:04:16] <sensibel> jim: ok
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2615 [19:05:11] <buu> sensibel: replaced-url
2616 [19:05:18] <lessthan0> before I go looking through this. does anyone know what lib the installer uses for partitioning?
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2618 [19:05:54] <lessthan0> there is an error on the tecmint LVM tutorial
2619 [19:05:58] <jim> sensibel, ls /dev/centos
2620 [19:05:59] <lessthan0> change GB to G
2621 [19:06:32] <sensibel> jim:3 logical volumes in volume group "centos" now active
2622 [19:06:44] <jim> sensibel, ls /dev/centos
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2624 [19:06:49] <buu> lessthan0: replaced-url
2625 [19:07:14] <lessthan0> ok so it is partman
2626 [19:07:23] <sensibel> jim: home root swap
2627 [19:07:55] <jim> sensibel, mount /dev/centos/home /mnt
2628 [19:08:01] <buu> "Debian preseed's partman options are an incomprehensible automatic partitioning language.{{fact}}
2629 [19:08:04] <buu> lol
2630 [19:08:30] <lessthan0> it would be nice if I could fix partman to autodetect non-standard sector sizes for WD drives and push that upstream
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2636 [19:09:27] <buu> lessthan0: It appears to call parted for the actual changes
2637 [19:09:31] <buu> Maybe start there?
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2639 [19:09:35] <sensibel> jim: mount /dev/centos/home /mnt , no error , again cursor blinking
2640 [19:09:39] <lessthan0> ah ok
2641 [19:09:47] <lessthan0> so partman depends on gnu parted?
2642 [19:10:17] <buu> The partman disk partitioner is the default partitioning tool for the installer. It manages the set of partitions and their mount points to ensure that the disks and filesystems is properly configured for a successful installation. It actually uses the parted to do the on-disk partitioning.
2643 [19:10:22] <buu> replaced-url
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2645 [19:10:35] <lessthan0> fdisk -l correctly reports sector size reported by the drive but also reports that the drive is backwards compatible with the old standard 512
2646 [19:10:35] <jim> sensibel, mount | grep home
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2648 [19:10:43] <sensibel> jim: ok
2649 [19:10:46] <lessthan0> generates a soft warning in red ascii
2650 [19:10:51] <lessthan0> ansi?
2651 [19:10:53] <jim> tell me what that says
2652 [19:10:57] <lessthan0> what does linux use?
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2655 [19:11:29] <jim> lessthan0, to do which thing?
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2657 [19:11:49] <lessthan0> terminal full screen or windowed colored text
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2666 [19:13:24] <sensibel> jim: /dev/mapper/centos-home on /mnt type xfs(rw,relatime,attr2,inode64,noquota)
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2670 [19:13:49] <sensibel> jim: output of your command ^^
2671 [19:13:52] <lessthan0> google says ANSI/VT100
2672 [19:13:54] <jim> sensibel, hmm.
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2674 [19:14:21] <jim> can you shrink an unmounted xfs filesystem?
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2684 [19:18:15] <jim> sensibel, can you run... df -h /mnt
2685 [19:18:52] <jim> I need the total size, and available and used
2686 [19:19:45] <sensibel> ok
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2689 [19:22:14] <sensibel> jim: size 3.6T used 1.2T available 2.5 T use% 33%
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2691 [19:23:06] <jim> that;s really big... this is what we have to do, convert it to an ext4
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2693 [19:23:35] <sensibel> jim: ok
2694 [19:23:37] <jim> it's going to take a long -LONG- time
2695 [19:24:03] <jim> first, umount /mnt
2696 [19:24:14] <jim> this could take a couple -days-
2697 [19:24:15] <sensibel> jim: so I would put it to conversion and then run away , how many hours will it take?
2698 [19:24:39] <sensibel> days ah
2699 [19:24:59] <jim> it could be hours, but 1.2t is a lot
2700 [19:26:01] <sensibel> jim: cant I break only a part from it and then add it to the root ?
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2703 [19:26:58] <sensibel> jim: I can also use 50 GB from swap
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2707 [19:28:01] <jim> how much swap do you have?
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2710 [19:28:35] <sensibel> jim: 198 GB
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2712 [19:28:40] <jim> wow
2713 [19:28:49] <jim> how much ram do you have?
2714 [19:28:56] <sensibel> 125 GB
2715 [19:29:09] <jim> that's a lot of ram
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2717 [19:29:32] <sensibel> jim: I am using tools that use all the ram and then use 100 GB swap :)
2718 [19:29:46] <jim> wow
2719 [19:30:06] <jim> well I've seen lots of tools that know how to use ram
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2721 [19:30:43] <jim> take a pic of the output of the command: free
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2723 [19:30:58] <sensibel> have you seen this replaced-url
2724 [19:31:03] <sensibel> jim: ok
2725 [19:31:15] <jim> is your swap in an lv?
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2730 [19:33:27] <jim> human genome research?
2731 [19:33:44] <sensibel> jim: my system has 4Gb swap then I added it manually
2732 [19:34:05] <sensibel> two files of 50GB and one of 99GB
2733 [19:34:08] <jim> how? did you make an lv?
2734 [19:34:21] <jim> swap files
2735 [19:34:23] <sensibel> i used dd
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2737 [19:34:46] * psichas THE BEST PACKAGE YOUTUBE_DL :D
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2739 [19:35:08] <jim> where are these swap files?
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2741 [19:35:17] <sensibel> replaced-url
2742 [19:35:27] <sensibel> i followed this ^^
2743 [19:35:36] <sensibel> jim: these are /home
2744 [19:35:41] <sensibel> *in
2745 [19:35:45] <beagleboner> yes
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2749 [19:36:26] <sensibel> only change was I used dd to create file instead of fallallocate given here replaced-url
2750 [19:36:27] <jim> sensibel, then it's the same problem
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2754 [19:37:00] <sensibel> jim: they also have same type?
2755 [19:37:06] * psichas PURPLE DARK YOUTUBE PLUGIN + YOUTUBE-DL = AWESOME
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2757 [19:37:18] <jim> we can reduce the how much of /home youre using, but it's not presently possible to shrink an xfs volume
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2760 [19:38:32] <jim> we're back to: how to convert the xfs to an ext4
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2762 [19:38:38] <sensibel> jim: my system has two 4T hard drives but I am seeing only one can we add memory from ther e?
2763 [19:38:43] <sensibel> *there
2764 [19:39:09] <jim> you have more space... that would make things easier :)
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2766 [19:39:22] <sensibel> :)
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2769 [19:40:50] <jim> this changes the solution, we don't have to convert, we can just copy and move the resulting pv
2770 [19:41:13] <sensibel> jim: yes but how?
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2773 [19:41:49] <jim> let's wander back to ##linux... these guys don wanna hear us yakking :)
2774 [19:41:52] <sensibel> jim: it wheat genome much bigger than human
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2777 [19:42:38] <jim> see you there :)
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2892 [20:59:11] <petn-randall> debian4: Which zombie?
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2903 [21:04:26] <ssd256g> I have a directory called Pictures which has a lot of sub-directories. I want to copy all the files in Pictures which end in .jpg and .JPG to a folder called Photos. How can I achieve that with a one liner?
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2907 [21:07:12] <ssd256g> I have to point out that I want to preserve the names of the sub-directories where the *.jpg and the .JPG are stored
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2921 [21:16:41] <monty86> which is better opensuse or debian?
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2923 [21:16:53] <petn-randall> !better
2924 [21:16:53] <dpkg> hmm... better is a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better".
2925 [21:17:04] <petn-randall> monty86: ^^
2926 [21:17:07] <petn-randall> Also:
2927 [21:17:08] <petn-randall> !best
2928 [21:17:08] <dpkg> Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis!
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2932 [21:18:53] <kaun_> $ for i in `find . -type f -name '*.[Jj][Pp][Gg]' -print` ; do { j=`echo $i | sed -e 's/\//-/g'` ; cp $i Photos/$j ; } done
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2935 [21:20:42] <kaun_> opensuse ... hmmm, all I recall is SuSE circa 2001 trashing itself during an update (yaST removed the libc it itself was using!)
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2938 [21:22:13] <kaun_> I moved to Debian 2.2, Potato. Several in-place 'apt-get dist-upgrade's later, still on it!
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2940 [21:25:12] <kaun_> Recent backward steps have to do with systemd? I had to fiddle with /etc/network/interfaces after a loooong time because it wouldn't automatically DHCP on USB tether.
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2943 [21:26:50] <petn-randall> kaun_: ifupdown is completely unrelated to systemd.
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2946 [21:29:11] <kaun_> Isn't it tied go systemctl network start & stuff?
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2948 [21:30:16] <kaun_> Anyway, I'd have been happy with good old SysV init, which I could understand & not have to suspect for this breakage.
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2954 [21:33:47] <kaun_> What happens to NetworkManager? I don't run GNOME/KDE, etc, just awesome-wm, and was wondering how to have some GUI for networking.
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2957 [21:34:09] <SerajewelKS> networkmanager is still a thing?
2958 [21:35:52] <kaun_> What is the state of networking things now? I didn't have a stand-alone PC to play with for a couple of years & seem to have lost anchor.
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2966 [21:41:14] <hahainternet> dumb question: anyone know where users like systemd-network are created from?
2967 [21:41:31] <hahainternet> i'm working on a live-build configuration, and for whatever reason thes users are absent in the chroot it builds, and any chroot i manually build
2968 [21:41:37] <hahainternet> but present on my debian-installered systems
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2976 [21:47:26] <hahainternet> looks like it's been messed around with in the last week in sid, that might be why
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2986 [21:53:05] <Dethernal> Hello, I just make my system not bootable and stuck in rescatux 0.51b3 live cd. My files are fine, I just have 4 drives and remove one old hard drive. I want a clear system without old MBR loaders. I have new SSD with GPT and efi partition and I have bunch of SSD and HDD with other partitions, what I can do to make it bootable? My /boot on different disk then efi (actually, all my other disks have msdos partition tables).
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2988 [21:54:42] <Dethernal> My system are 10 years old and I do not want to reinstall it but yes, this is a mess.
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2994 [21:58:13] <[sr]> howdy
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2996 [21:58:36] <[sr]> i have a webservice that runs every 5 minues with hunderes of connection, and in the nightly logrorate mysql is restarted
2997 [21:58:55] <[sr]> im going to remove mysql-server from /etc/logrotate.d
2998 [21:59:01] <[sr]> will be enought?
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3000 [21:59:12] <[sr]> i'll reset the logs manually in a cron script
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3005 [22:00:59] <petn-randall> kaun_: ifupdown predates systemd by quite a bit. It gets started by systemd, but that's about it.
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3029 [22:17:39] <rant> kaun: you can still use network manager it doesnt depend on a DE
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3032 [22:17:56] <rant> wicd is about the only other thing there is and its crap
3033 [22:18:10] <monty86> how is gnome these days compared to kde plasma?
3034 [22:18:17] <monty86> does it have taskbar?
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3037 [22:18:44] <rant> monty86: how would you compare swiming in elephant feces to swimming in pig vomit? :P
3038 [22:19:01] <kaun> rant: good one!
3039 [22:19:08] <monty86> lol
3040 [22:19:30] <monty86> suse kde plasma not too bad
3041 [22:19:42] <rant> gnome3 is so bad you dontt even have to be using it for it to drive you nuts
3042 [22:19:51] <kaun> I brought up NetworkManager because of its hooks into a DE's applet.
3043 [22:20:03] <monty86> from the videos I'm looking at.....I can't see a taskbar....if it doesn't have one, wow...
3044 [22:20:05] <rant> yeah well it has cli and other interaces
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3046 [22:20:59] <rant> I have been using a hotspot for over a year and n-m > ifupdown > wicd
3047 [22:21:04] <kaun> GUI is what I'm after, for guided use by non-software people in the house.
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3049 [22:22:13] <rant> then use a DE of some kind, a plain wm isnt gonna cut it.. use XFCE or something
3050 [22:22:14] <kaun> I'm quite happy to 'dhclient <guess-what-your-usb-ether-is-named>'
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3055 [22:22:48] <rant> yeah that doesnt work well for me.. I could do that for hours or I can just let n-m do it and get connected in seconds
3056 [22:23:06] <rant> and wicd will get me connected but cause it to keep dropping
3057 [22:23:32] <rant> I'm not a huge fan of n-m but it works
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3061 [22:24:24] <kaun> Well, I'm happy n-m is an option. It may not have to be a full DE if I can add in a taskbar or panel to whatever WM I use. Most people can do fine in IceWM.
3062 [22:26:39] <kaun> DEs ... I recently tried the OLPC project's Sugar interface & was blown by its directness. Very refreshing.
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3066 [22:27:53] <monty86> anyone here a package maintainer?
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3073 [22:34:16] <rant> kaun: see stalonetray and trayer for lightweigh systray implementations or tint2 for a lighweight panel with tray
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3075 [22:34:41] <rant> !maint
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3077 [22:34:45] <somiaj> monty86: just ask your question, and is your question about making a debian package or getting a package into debian?
3078 [22:35:34] <rant> !mentor
3079 [22:35:34] <dpkg> [mentors] the system the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg>. replaced-url
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3084 [22:37:49] <monty86> lol it was for trying to find someone to fix a package in opensuse
3085 [22:38:03] <monty86> a simple fix
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3087 [22:38:53] <rant> silly lizard, packages are for humans!
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3138 [23:26:33] <XsiSec> Hi everyone I have few errors: replaced-url
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3140 [23:28:00] <XsiSec> this is my pulse config -> replaced-url
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