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4 [00:01:50] <__m4ch1n3__> hmm there is a torbrowser-launcher package in the repo...
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6 [00:02:40] <bites> it just downloads the tor browser from upstream.
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11 [00:03:53] <JaUZ_> hello guys i need help
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14 [00:04:15] <JaUZ_> i use debian 6
15 [00:04:36] <JaUZ_> and need install libssl-dev
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17 [00:05:09] <azarus> sudo apt-get install libssl-dev
18 [00:05:10] <azarus> ?
19 [00:05:17] <azarus> also, debian 6 is EOL
20 [00:05:18] <JaUZ_> but dont work
21 [00:05:24] <JaUZ_> cause have error
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23 [00:05:32] <JaUZ_> i can post here?
24 [00:05:43] <bites> post it to paste.debian.net
25 [00:06:20] <__m4ch1n3__> "The Debian Long Term Support (LTS) Team hereby announces that Debian 6.0 (squeeze) support will reach its end-of-life on February 29, 2016, five years after its initial release on February 6, 2011."
26 [00:07:03] <JaUZ_> azarus
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28 [00:07:04] <JaUZ_> replaced-url
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32 [00:08:46] <JaUZ_> azarus when i do apt-get -f install
33 [00:08:50] <JaUZ_> replaced-url
34 [00:09:24] <JaUZ_> Missing file list file
35 [00:09:27] <__m4ch1n3__> debian 6 is outdated, upgrade to cuurrent stable
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38 [00:09:53] <bites> JaUZ_: what's the output of apt-cache policy? did you mix multiple releases?
39 [00:10:24] <JaUZ_> i think yes
40 [00:10:35] <karlpinc> Upgraded from Ubuntu 16 to Debian 9. Running tomcat8 and Mariadb 10.1 on Debian, tomcat7 and MySQL 5.7 on Ubuntu. On debian there's tons of context switches, enough that up to 45% of the cpu is used by the system. Anybody have any clues?
41 [00:11:33] <bites> JaUZ_: you can't mix multiple debian releases. it will cause problems like you have now.
42 [00:11:56] <JaUZ_> bites i need edit sources.list ?
43 [00:12:33] <bites> No, you already broke it. if that's really debian 6 it's time for a reinstall.
44 [00:12:53] <bites> JaUZ_: what does lsb_release -a say?
45 [00:13:18] <bites> JaUZ_: or better, paste the output of apt-cache policy to paste.debian.net please.
46 [00:13:24] <JaUZ_> No LSB modules are available.
47 [00:13:24] <JaUZ_> Distributor ID: Debian
48 [00:13:24] <JaUZ_> Description: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 (squeeze)
49 [00:13:24] <JaUZ_> Release: 6.0.5
50 [00:13:24] <JaUZ_> Codename: squeeze
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53 [00:13:42] <JaUZ_> bites ok
54 [00:14:26] <bites> JaUZ_: is that the first package you installed from stretch?
55 [00:14:37] <JaUZ_> bites replaced-url
56 [00:14:41] <JaUZ_> is pt-br
57 [00:14:54] <JaUZ_> no
58 [00:15:25] <JaUZ_> I installed other packages
59 [00:15:38] <JaUZ_> but now i have this error
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64 [00:17:31] <bites> you can try doing a full upgrade to stretch, but likely you will need a reinstall. debian doesn't support skipping releases and adding stretch sources to squeeze is terrible.
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66 [00:18:15] <JaUZ_> :S
67 [00:18:42] <JaUZ_> I'm far from the physical machine.
68 [00:19:05] <JaUZ_> Can I solve it remotely?
69 [00:20:23] <bites> can you do a reinstall through ipmi or whatever management interface you have?
70 [00:20:40] <bites> or if it
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72 [00:20:51] <bites> * 's a vps, can you trash it?
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74 [00:21:53] <JaUZ_> bites
75 [00:22:09] <JaUZ_> i have ssh access
76 [00:22:31] <ryouma> hi, questions about the example in replaced-url
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79 [00:22:56] <ryouma> s/do not/did not/
80 [00:23:05] <ryouma> !sources.list
81 [00:23:05] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
82 [00:23:20] <ryouma> meant that to be a query
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85 [00:26:18] <JaUZ_> E: Missing Dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' without any packages (or specify a solution).
86 [00:26:30] <JaUZ_> why apt-get -f install dont work O.o
87 [00:26:41] <annadane> !bat
88 [00:26:41] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
89 [00:26:42] <bites> the trailing slashes are optional in every line.
90 [00:26:43] <annadane> JaUZ_, ^
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92 [00:27:52] <JaUZ_> :S
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94 [00:28:46] <ryouma> bites: thanks. one question answered! :)
95 [00:28:49] <bites> !tell ryouma about deb.debian.org
96 [00:29:49] <ryouma> thanks.
97 [00:30:02] <bites> ryouma: what older examples don't contain the security line?
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99 [00:30:33] <ryouma> bites: most that i had seen around jessie release
100 [00:30:38] <ryouma> it works without it
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102 [00:30:47] <ryouma> not the line -- the subdir
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106 [00:31:02] <bites> hmm
107 [00:31:32] <bites> you are right, never noticed that :D
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109 [00:31:39] <JaUZ_> bites can i fix it with ssh connection ?
110 [00:32:38] <bites> JaUZ_: not easily i'm afraid.
111 [00:33:56] <ryouma> from your website it looks as if https: is allowed. nice.
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114 [00:34:28] <d-fence_> Hello
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116 [00:34:33] <bites> few mirrors support https and you will need the apt-transport-https package.
117 [00:34:38] <JaUZ_> bites
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119 [00:34:41] <JaUZ_> If I give you access
120 [00:34:47] <JaUZ_> u can try fix it?
121 [00:34:50] <JaUZ_> :S
122 [00:34:54] <bites> no way
123 [00:35:05] <bites> well, if you pay me, sure.
124 [00:35:36] <JaUZ_> how much?
125 [00:35:37] <JaUZ_> :S
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127 [00:35:54] <d-fence_> After an update of my Debian system, pulseaudio does not detect my audigy card anymore. Alsa can play a sound with aplay. help.
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130 [00:37:38] <bites> JaUZ_: 100$/h, 4 hours prepaid minimum over paypal. and still no guarantee it will work.
131 [00:37:41] <ryouma> bites: does sequence matter?
132 [00:37:54] <bites> ryouma: nope
133 [00:38:46] <ryouma> tahnks. as for the /debian-security/ i guess i will include that subdir as the wiki has it, but it is strange that it was missing in previous examples. maybe i should check the release notes for stretch.
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137 [00:39:53] <bites> is it weird? it's just the way the security team configured their webserver. i don't know their reasoning.
138 [00:40:21] <ryouma> not weird. just want to know which is more correct, if either.
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147 [00:46:44] <ManElevation> heya!well i got an error on the terminal and i did apt --fix-broken install and i got this...
148 [00:46:46] <ManElevation> Media change: please insert the disc labeled
149 [00:46:46] <ManElevation> 'Debian GNU/Linux 9.4.0 _Stretch_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20180310-11:21'
150 [00:46:46] <ManElevation> in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press [Enter]
151 [00:46:51] <ManElevation> what do i need to do now?
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154 [00:47:45] <ManElevation> what do i need to do if i get this error?
155 [00:47:45] <ManElevation> Media change: please insert the disc labeled
156 [00:47:45] <ManElevation> 'Debian GNU/Linux 9.4.0 _Stretch_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20180310-11:21'
157 [00:47:45] <ManElevation> in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press [Enter]
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162 [00:49:48] <bites> ManElevation: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the lines the installer created.
163 [00:50:15] <bites> !tell ManElevation about stretch sources.list
164 [00:50:48] <bites> ManElevation: you only need three lines in your sources.list in a clean install. the bot sent you a message.
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171 [00:57:07] <ManElevation> bites ok thx but for some reason it says that im not the owner
172 [00:57:19] <ManElevation> so its read only
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174 [00:57:55] <bites> you need to be root.
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178 [00:58:50] <ManElevation> ok
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180 [01:01:49] <ManElevation> ok thx now it works
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221 [01:25:46] <ryouma> could an mitm of update and upgrade supply you with a perfectly good /old/ version of a security package? https would seem to fix that? (probably naive question.)
222 [01:26:01] <ryouma> or even of a regular package
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227 [01:28:01] <bites> ryouma: yes, those are called replay attacks. the release files have valid-until fields meant to mitigate that, so that only leaves a window of a few days.
228 [01:28:02] <teraflops_> hi
229 [01:28:12] <teraflops_> ugh not here
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233 [01:28:59] <ryouma> i think i'll try https and see if it works on ftp.us and on deb.debian.org
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235 [01:29:10] <bites> ryouma: https wouldn't help if the mirror went malicious, which is the most likely scenario.
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237 [01:29:47] <ryouma> well, i'm thinking more hops in between. also it irritates me that my isp knows what packages i use. don't ask why it just does.
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239 [01:30:23] <bites> i get that.
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244 [01:31:39] <ryouma> if the mirror went malicious i think there are so many advanced debian users that maybe somebody would notice
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247 [01:32:13] <bites> maybe, maybe not. there are a lot of mirrors and everyone can donate a mirror.
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249 [01:32:58] <bites> that's why mirrors arn't trusted by design.
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252 [01:34:21] <zimb> I once did a script to test different openBSD mirros, it tested dates, size and sums. 5 of them where malicious at the time, not in the packages but the OpenBSD install itself.
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254 [01:35:56] <ryouma> wow
255 [01:36:30] <ryouma> that's what i mean though. people write scripts like that, check dns records, confuirm stuff, have regular sanity checks in their upgrades, try to debug issues, ...
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263 [01:42:20] <bites> and how would you distinguish a mirror that does a replay attack from one that just hasn't been synced in time?
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267 [01:44:18] <bites> a malicious mirror can't just replace packages, apt checks checksums and signatures.
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280 [01:54:40] <ryouma> i'd want to know the mirrors i use are current. also, i think maybe this is called a freeze attack? kind of a variant.
281 [01:55:04] <ryouma> i don't get the difference between deb. and ftp.us. are they not both redirectors?
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295 [02:04:37] <bites> ftp.xx.debian.org are primary mirrors for certain regions. ftp.us are a bunch or mirrors load balanced by dns round-robin i think. deb.debian.org picks the right cdn wherever you are.
296 [02:05:38] <ryouma> so if you are in xx, then you can skip the cdn picking step?
297 [02:05:58] <ryouma> i guess theyw ouldn't make much difference to our hyopthetical mitm questions
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299 [02:07:46] <bites> both freeze attack and replay attack are the same mechanism.
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303 [02:11:35] <zimb> How a replay attack works on the network level, I just saw the impklications for bitcoin
304 [02:11:42] <ryouma> so ftp.xx are cdn? idk waht a cdn is, except "something corporations use to load balance or something"
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306 [02:13:02] <bites> it's a dns round-robin. the dns points to different ips in a loop, to load balance.
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310 [02:14:18] <ryouma> so probably the mirroring operation uses a script that checks each of the ips for recency, i'm guessing?
311 [02:14:18] <zimb> CDN - Content Delivery Netwok. It is a cache on speedy servers in your area/country, near you.
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318 [02:17:47] <bites> the mirrors behind ftp.us.debian.org are primary mirrors, they are push-triggered. normal mirrors run a cronjob that rsyncs every few hours.
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325 [02:21:26] <ryouma> push means faster?
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332 [02:31:34] <squarecircle> heyo
333 [02:32:18] <squarecircle> where should I start looking if my libvirt/kvm vm pauses right after booting
334 [02:32:19] <squarecircle> ?
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340 [02:34:29] <squarecircle> hm
341 [02:34:35] <squarecircle> theres no space left on devive
342 [02:34:39] <squarecircle> *device
343 [02:34:40] <squarecircle> hm
344 [02:34:45] <squarecircle> that may be a problem
345 [02:34:57] <rant> s/may//
346 [02:35:12] <tonymke> lol. that may cause some issues
347 [02:35:24] <rant> s/may//g
348 [02:36:07] <squarecircle> 6G avail
349 [02:36:08] <squarecircle> hm
350 [02:36:09] <squarecircle> hm
351 [02:36:17] <squarecircle> 2.5TB vm image
352 [02:36:20] <rant> or s/may/will/g if you care about grammar :P
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354 [02:36:53] <squarecircle> that /may/ be the root of my problems
355 [02:37:06] <squarecircle> (the raid is sized some 2.7TB
356 [02:37:09] <squarecircle> )
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358 [02:39:07] <squarecircle> hm the vm tells me: /dev/mapper/vda2_crypt 2.6T 1.8T 681G 74% /
359 [02:39:11] <squarecircle> :/
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365 [02:42:06] <rant> a fat kangaroo?
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388 [02:56:33] <RoadRunner> Trying to configure pidgin 2.13.0 for voice under xubuntu 16.04. Pulse Audio detects webcam and is showing sound reception from its mic but pidgin's mic test is not showing a changing sound level. Changing Pidgin's audio output and input plugins to Pulse Audio doesn't make any difference. Device selection just showing one option "default" - not detecting specific devices?
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393 [02:59:09] <oxDebugged> Hey guys how can i figure out what video card i have exactly instaleld so i get the latest drivers for my Debian system
394 [02:59:20] <oxDebugged> i am running alittle bit the outdated system fo Debian Jessie but i want to get my Nvidina driver to work
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396 [03:01:16] <rant> oxDebugged: lspci -nn | grep VGA
397 [03:01:40] <rant> RoadRunner: this is #debian we only support Debian stable here, not xubuntu
398 [03:02:18] <oxDebugged> @rant: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:1402] (rev a1)
399 [03:02:30] <rant> RoadRunner: try #pidgin, might be the best place for your issue
400 [03:02:35] <oxDebugged> what driver would i get in order to change my resoultuion properly, becasue its just like a rectangle.
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402 [03:04:12] <RoadRunner> rant: I did, unfortunately that channel isn't as active as I would like, and although I realize this is not a xubuntu channel, our os's are very similar, so someone under debian could have ran into the same issue
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405 [03:05:32] <rant> good luck with that
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407 [03:05:40] <eliotime> RoadRunner: Ubuntu and Debian uses different ways to manage the packages. So, if you're requesting some specific bugs in Ubuntu and derivates, this chat is not for you.
408 [03:06:00] <oxDebugged> rant, : this is my video card specifically..replaced-url
409 [03:06:06] <oxDebugged> how would i go about getting the proper drivers for it
410 [03:06:12] <oxDebugged> but its a Nvidea
411 [03:06:17] <oxDebugged> or how ever u spell it lmao
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416 [03:07:36] <__m4ch1n3__> RoadRunner, ubuntu has a hw driver manager
417 [03:07:42] <rant> oxDebugged: well I'd start with figuring out what you're using now. lsmod | grep 'nv\|noveau\|nvidia' | awk '{print $1}' | tr '\n' ' ' (paste safe one line output)
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420 [03:08:45] <RoadRunner> __m4ch1n3__: hw driver manager? what is the significance of this?
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422 [03:08:51] <__m4ch1n3__> jockey-gtk
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426 [03:11:08] <__m4ch1n3__> it installs non-free nvidia ot ati drivers
427 [03:11:14] <__m4ch1n3__> *or
428 [03:11:54] <__m4ch1n3__> and configures X to use them
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431 [03:12:54] <__m4ch1n3__> first it detects your hw
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442 [03:16:50] <__m4ch1n3__> guess installing nvidia drivers manualy with apt wont configure everything like in debian, e.g blacklisting free nouveau nv driver
443 [03:17:36] <rant> I hadn't used nvidia in so long I wasnt suure if it did that.. which is why I was advising oxDebugged to check first
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450 [03:23:25] <ryouma> 18:07 <rant> oxDebugged: well I'd start with figuring out what you're using now. lsmod | grep 'nv\|noveau\|nvidia' | awk '{print $1}' | tr '\n' ' ' (paste safe one line output) -- is the spelling correct?
451 [03:24:13] <ryouma> Nouveau
452 [03:24:15] <ryouma> ?
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468 [03:31:01] <__m4ch1n3__> would recommend install and "activate" drivers with jockey-gtk on ubuntu
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470 [03:33:18] <__m4ch1n3__> ubuntu seems to lack configs in some packages
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479 [03:37:39] <nezZario> lol what? can someone help me verify I'm not insane? the 'iptraf' package doesn't install the binary for the app. it just installs the documentation. what?
480 [03:38:00] <__m4ch1n3__> tor-arm same on buster :)
481 [03:38:24] <nezZario> dpkg-query -L iptraf only shows a changelong / debianchangelong / copyright in /usr/share/doc/iptraf
482 [03:38:56] <__m4ch1n3__> stable or testing?
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484 [03:39:49] <nezZario> OOH this server is on unstable! I didn't even know.
485 [03:39:59] <annadane> uh...
486 [03:40:06] <annadane> /etc/apt/sources.list
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488 [03:40:27] <annadane> apt show iptraf
489 [03:40:36] <nezZario> yeah - it's got deb replaced-url
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491 [03:40:59] <annadane> D:
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493 [03:41:22] <nezZario> stable is same, though
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495 [03:41:32] <avis> i think there is something like whereis you can usually do sudo updatedb and sudo locate for something similar to that
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498 [03:42:04] <annadane> try iptraf-ng...?
499 [03:42:29] <annadane> actually that's not helpful
500 [03:42:49] <avis> make you can get a visual tree of a installed package install components, in case a config isn't auto-run
501 [03:43:10] <avis> sudo apt-cache search <description of package>
502 [03:43:58] <__m4ch1n3__> oh tor-arm was replaced by nyx
503 [03:44:03] <avis> i remember being able to compile packages based on the architecture too, on something debian like, and not hurd
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506 [03:45:37] <avis> sudo apt-get purge <package> removes the installed package and the saved debian package for it
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508 [03:47:09] <avis> the auto debian per architechture install thing is apt-<something> <maybesomething> <anditworks> -- i don't remember what it was
509 [03:47:42] <avis> bluray made me happy. i thought i could have a complete set, and not have to worry about upgrades, and false swaps.
510 [03:48:05] <avis> people alluded to more than something other than debian os
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533 [04:03:24] <rant> heh
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535 [04:04:49] <rant> you can buy sets already made pretty cheap but as for gettin em all on one media, you need more than optical discs these days to contain it.. the amd64 arch alone is almost 300G
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539 [04:09:27] <plasm0duck> How do I stop my system showing the uname -a type system info when I ssh in?
540 [04:10:17] <plasm0duck> Like after I enter the password for ssh, it shows the Linux hostname kernel version architecture info
541 [04:13:03] <tonymke> plasm0duck: I think you're referring to the SSH MOTD set on the host? If so, check out this guy replaced-url
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597 [04:53:37] <plasmoduck> thanks tonymke
598 [04:54:44] <Frogmorton> Can I scan for nearby wifi device signal strength, or detect if a device is on/off without having it connected?
599 [04:55:04] <Frogmorton> q
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603 [04:56:36] <somiaj> Frogmorton: yes, there are differnt tools to do that
604 [04:56:52] <somiaj> well you can scan for aps that are broadcasting
605 [04:57:02] <tonymke> "nmcli dev wifi" shows signal strength
606 [04:57:04] <tonymke> If that helps
607 [04:57:48] <somiaj> there is iwlist scan, and I wonder if iw can do it directly
608 [04:57:53] <somiaj> wpa_supplicant can also do that
609 [04:58:11] <somiaj> but if using the network-manager gui, I'm sure it is there too, as I said lots of tools
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612 [04:59:44] <Frogmorton> I want to post a timestamp to a database whenever the wifi device starts up or stops. Have scripts in ifup and ifdown which record when an interface changes state, but the external wifi going up/down does not trigger those
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621 [05:04:03] <toruvinn> Frogmorton, what's "external" wifi?
622 [05:04:37] <Frogmorton> Its a wifi router than my system may or may not be connected to
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624 [05:05:29] <Frogmorton> qq
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626 [05:05:37] <toruvinn> ok so it's not a device on your system. yeah you wlan0 won't go down just because it loses connectivity, i believe.
627 [05:05:45] <toruvinn> s/you wl/your wl/
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629 [05:06:08] <toruvinn> might be hard to detect "down" like this.
630 [05:06:19] <toruvinn> "up" could be easy-ish, though. if you're using DHCP and you're probably using DHCP
631 [05:06:30] <toruvinn> you could modify the dhcp script so that it writes your "up" event to wherever.
632 [05:07:16] <toruvinn> question is, are really short losses of connectivity (a one second lag, for example) considered "down/up" by you? because this wont probably timeout and trigger your wifi to reassociate/re-get ip address
633 [05:07:22] <toruvinn> oh btw careful with dhcp renewals ;-)
634 [05:08:25] <Frogmorton> Thats why I thought maybe don't try to connect, just poll every few minutues to see if the device is there. Just want to know it's power state really.
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636 [05:08:36] <toruvinn> umm
637 [05:08:58] <toruvinn> im getting a bit confused here again. you want to know whether your access point is powered or not?
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640 [05:10:00] <Frogmorton> Yes, it's not my PCs access point. I want to log in a database when it is up or down. I'm trying to monitor a power circuit external to my PC
641 [05:10:49] <toruvinn> this is going to be difficult, because nonresponsive access point doesn't mean it's not powered up. it might as well just be frozen (firmware bug)
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643 [05:11:00] <Frogmorton> It's an interesting exercise which is hard to phrase a good search term for : )
644 [05:11:33] <toruvinn> Frogmorton, but since it's 1 hop away from you, i'd say that just pinging it repeatedly until it fails 2-3 times in a row should be enough.
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646 [05:11:35] <Frogmorton> nmcli dev wifi doesn't see any of the wifi devices here. have to try something else
647 [05:12:02] <toruvinn> Frogmorton, or you could actually perform wifi searches (wpa_cli's search) and see if your AP is there
648 [05:12:08] <toruvinn> if it's there, it's there. ;-)
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650 [05:12:19] <toruvinn> perform those searches often enough and you have some good data on that
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652 [05:12:36] <toruvinn> s/search/scan/
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655 [05:13:13] <toruvinn> oh, i now realized you probably meant this by "not trying to connect"
656 [05:13:16] <toruvinn> yeah that would be a decent way
657 [05:13:47] <Frogmorton> That could be what I need. I have a network widget thing on the desktop which shows signal strengths of several nearby devices, so whatever tool it uses will be good
658 [05:14:33] <toruvinn> it's entirely likely you're using wpasupplicant
659 [05:14:50] <toruvinn> try `pidof wpa_supplicant`
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661 [05:15:23] <toruvinn> if it's there, it's probably that. then, you could run wpa_cli
662 [05:15:33] <toruvinn> run "scan" in there, wait for results, run "scan_results"
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664 [05:15:40] <toruvinn> it tells you signal strenghts too.
665 [05:16:30] <Frogmorton> Says it could not connect to wpa_supplicant
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668 [05:16:53] <toruvinn> oh well i guess you're not using wpa_supplicant then to manage your wifi ;-)
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670 [05:17:40] <Frogmorton> Oh, had it switched off
671 [05:17:54] <toruvinn> well you probably shouldnt be using it if you're using something else already
672 [05:18:10] <__m4ch1n3__> missing mixxx package in buster :(
673 [05:18:35] <annadane> dpkg, why isn't mixxx in testing
674 [05:18:35] <dpkg> mixxx is not in testing for the reasons listed in replaced-url
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676 [05:18:55] <Frogmorton> I can drop the other connection method. Just need to get something into a bash script now
677 [05:18:58] <annadane> judd, bug #896457
678 [05:18:59] <judd> Bug replaced-url
679 [05:19:08] <annadane> __m4ch1n3__, ^
680 [05:19:51] <annadane> this is partially why i run unstable and not testing
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684 [05:25:32] <toruvinn> Frogmorton, i was under the impression that wpa_cli is pretty scriptable, so it'd be nice.
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687 [05:26:11] <Frogmorton> Thanks, sounds like wpa_cli is what I need to research. Just needed to find the right thing to search on : )
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689 [05:27:10] <poprocks> constexpr? C++ is weird. :P
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702 [05:32:51] <michael2> !test
703 [05:32:52] <dpkg> Test failed.
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705 [05:35:21] <toruvinn> Frogmorton, you just need wpa_cli scan then scan_results but im not entirely sure how to catch that "results are ready" event from commandline. when you run wpa_cli alone and use its input it's quite obvious how this works.
706 [05:35:58] <toruvinn> Frogmorton, there is -a which is supposed to run something passing "events" to it, but im not sure if they pass SCAN_RESULTS too
707 [05:36:19] <toruvinn> it only mentions CONNECTED/DISCONNECTED in the man page..
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710 [05:36:42] <michael2> nmcli can be scripted for wifi stuff too
711 [05:37:04] <toruvinn> mhm, i dont know this one, might be worth looking into. it may be the one you're already using, too. ;-)
712 [05:37:30] <Frogmorton> Yes, now that I have wpa_supplicant doing auto-connect, nmcli is showing connection details
713 [05:37:32] <michael2> it has options for managing color, "machine" output formating, and automatic character escaping
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783 [06:35:05] <__m4ch1n3__> is there a way to set 'QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=0' systemwide for all desktop applications?
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789 [06:40:48] <nezZario> Set it in your ~/.bashrc ? .... THat'll work for terminal-launched apps. I don't know how that works for WM's though.
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791 [06:41:20] <__m4ch1n3__> guis which use qt auto scale are either giant one button or menue entry over entire screen or gui wont start at all
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793 [06:41:37] <__m4ch1n3__> have 1080p res
794 [06:42:53] <__m4ch1n3__> atm im editing /usr/shar/applications/*.desktop files and adding QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=0
795 [06:43:04] <__m4ch1n3__> *share
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797 [06:46:42] <mroh> systemwide, for all users: /etc/environment, or you could use a script in /etc/X11 or etc,ppp, lots of possibilities...
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799 [06:48:45] <__m4ch1n3__> looks like the """auto"""scale assumes uhd resolution independent from screenres :)
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803 [06:51:05] <__m4ch1n3__> echo -e '\nexport QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=0' >> /etc/environment ?
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806 [06:52:59] <__m4ch1n3__> or
807 [06:53:06] <__m4ch1n3__> echo -e '\nQT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=0' >> /etc/environment ?
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871 [07:51:23] <oxDebugged> Hey guys question (replaced-url
872 [07:51:32] <oxDebugged> if u could help me i would really appreciate it.
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876 [07:54:38] <jak2000> how to check wich the space available on my harddisk
877 [07:54:42] <jak2000> not see other partitions...
878 [07:54:53] <somiaj> df -h
879 [07:55:13] <jak2000> yes i know
880 [07:55:19] <jak2000> but i have other partitions
881 [07:55:24] <jak2000> and not mounted
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883 [07:57:07] <Tegu> well, I think fdisk -l can show the size but I'm not sure about the available space..
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891 [08:03:42] <jak2000> Tegu: replaced-url
892 [08:03:43] <jak2000> result
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906 [08:18:37] <Tegu> hm, too bad I'm not familiar with LVM.
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909 [08:21:28] <jak2000> Tegu: replaced-url
910 [08:21:41] <jak2000> i want add more space to / if pssible or to /var
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1048 [10:20:58] <cluelessperson> I cannot umount a device
1049 [10:21:00] <cluelessperson> it says it's busy
1050 [10:21:08] <kirk781> what device?
1051 [10:21:09] <cluelessperson> but lsof and fuser show that nothing's accessing it
1052 [10:21:10] <cluelessperson> it's lying
1053 [10:21:13] <cluelessperson> /dev/loop0
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1056 [10:22:08] <well_laid_lawn> something like gvfs will be indexing it
1057 [10:22:19] <cluelessperson> on a debian server?
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1059 [10:23:20] <well_laid_lawn> something is - umount doesn't lie
1060 [10:23:39] <cluelessperson> ps aux | grep loop0 nothing
1061 [10:23:43] <cluelessperson> lsof | grep loop0 nothing
1062 [10:23:48] <cluelessperson> fuser loop0 nothing
1063 [10:23:55] <cluelessperson> same all three for the mount directory
1064 [10:23:58] <cluelessperson> nothing is using it
1065 [10:23:59] <well_laid_lawn> what's the mount point ?
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1067 [10:24:14] <cluelessperson> /archive/torrents/e/
1068 [10:25:09] <well_laid_lawn> indexing doesn't open files
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1072 [10:26:27] <cluelessperson> so, what's indexing without being told to?
1073 [10:26:30] <cluelessperson> on a ro file system?
1074 [10:27:26] <well_laid_lawn> I don't know what ou have on the system - and that was just a clue
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1077 [10:27:45] <well_laid_lawn> umount doesn't lie
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1079 [10:28:30] <cluelessperson> well_laid_lawn: and yet it continues to
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1085 [10:31:42] <cluelessperson> well, it finally umounted, for apparently no reason
1086 [10:32:06] <cluelessperson> but now losetup won't detach a loop device
1087 [10:32:30] <cluelessperson> and then it worked lel
1088 [10:32:33] <cluelessperson> thanks though. hm
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1149 [11:35:41] <oxDebugged> hey guys i am trying to install drivers for nvida , nvidia-detect
1150 [11:35:41] <oxDebugged> Detected NVIDIA GPUs:
1151 [11:35:41] <oxDebugged> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:1402] (rev a1)
1152 [11:35:41] <oxDebugged> Your card is only supported by a newer driver that is available in jessie-backports.
1153 [11:35:42] <oxDebugged> See replaced-url
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1157 [11:35:59] <oxDebugged> how do i do that after i added it to my sources?
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1159 [11:36:12] <oxDebugged> im here replaced-url
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1163 [11:38:54] <user1_fn> I connected to a server with "ssh -R 612345:localhost:612345 user@host.tld". "netstat -tulpen" on the server side shows me that there is LISTENd to this port. On the client side I execute "while ( true ) ; do nc -l 612345 ; done", and then on the client side "date | nc localhost 612345". The last command fails with "connect_to localhost port 612345: failed." Any suggestions?
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1165 [11:39:19] <user1_fn> sorry, a typo ...
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1168 [11:39:32] <user1_fn> I connected to a server with "ssh -R 612345:localhost:612345 user@host.tld". "netstat -tulpen" on the server side shows me that there is LISTENd to this port. On the client side I execute "while ( true ) ; do nc -l 612345 ; done", and then on the server side "date | nc localhost 612345". The last command fails with "connect_to localhost port 612345: failed." Any suggestions?
1169 [11:39:36] <Pusteblume> !sources.list
1170 [11:39:36] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
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1175 [11:41:41] <user1_fn> (Background: I would like to get some text from the stdout of a program on the server side to the stdin of a program on the client side)
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1178 [11:42:42] <NeedHelpHuh> Hey guys im trying to get my driver working for my computer to change resolution because right now its just enjoymable with my gaming video card.
1179 [11:42:44] <NeedHelpHuh> Detected NVIDIA GPUs:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:1402] (rev a1)Your card is only supported by a newer driver that is available in jessie-backports.See replaced-url
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1182 [11:43:17] <NeedHelpHuh> i put the backports in sources and installed the program using apt-get -t jessie-backports install "nvidia-driver"
1183 [11:43:27] <NeedHelpHuh> i thought i followed it and restarted the computer, but still it does not find it.
1184 [11:43:29] <NeedHelpHuh> and gives me the same message.
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1186 [11:43:57] <p0g0_> user1_fn: sshfs & echo to a file?
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1188 [11:45:19] <p0g0_> that is, use sshfs to link the two file systems, then echo the result you want from box 1 and write it to box 2.
1189 [11:46:50] <user1_fn> s/612345/61234/g
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1191 [11:48:32] <blackflow> NeedHelpHuh: what message? Also, any reason you're having a desktop still on Jessie?
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1194 [11:49:15] <NeedHelpHuh> blackflow, hgonestly needed to format quickly and found that only CD lying around didnt really think twice
1195 [11:49:41] <NeedHelpHuh> i just want to get my video card working and then ill prob upgrade shorlty once i backup my home folder.
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1198 [11:50:17] <blackflow> NeedHelpHuh: which gpu is that?
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1209 [11:54:48] <NeedHelpHuh> replaced-url
1210 [11:54:49] <NeedHelpHuh> blackflow,
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1213 [11:55:14] <blackflow> NeedHelpHuh: so, GTX 950 :)
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1215 [11:55:33] <NeedHelpHuh> blackflow, replaced-url
1216 [11:55:42] <NeedHelpHuh> ya ya so what i did was kinda following instructions of that paste
1217 [11:56:04] <NeedHelpHuh> i did apt-get -t jessie-backports install "nvidia-driver"
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1219 [11:56:59] <blackflow> well... I have GTX 960. the 384 driver worked fine, 390 and 396 too. Could be that <384 doesn't support it, but 384 should.
1220 [11:57:19] <s8548a_> Sri_Designer rant: yesterday's network issue is solved by adding 2 network adaptors for the VM
1221 [11:57:20] <blackflow> anyway, if even with backports the driver doesn't recognize the card, not sure what you can do but upgrade to stretch
1222 [11:57:21] <NeedHelpHuh> so what should i do what do you recommend my professor?
1223 [11:57:33] <NeedHelpHuh> okay
1224 [11:57:39] <NeedHelpHuh> ]like my whole OS or add it in the sources/ and try that?
1225 [11:58:32] <s8548a_> one is configured as NAT for internet access, and the 2nd is configured as host only adaptor.
1226 [11:58:38] <blackflow> NeedHelpHuh: if you know what you're doing, you could try install it from stretch repos, wiht some careful pinning, just for a test. it's dkms, and should really require only kernel headers.
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1228 [11:59:24] <blackflow> NeedHelpHuh: then again, I don't know if newer nvidias require some minimum kernel version, so taht could be a problem too.
1229 [11:59:47] <NeedHelpHuh> hmm could you perhaps help me find a guide so idont bug you because i really am confused when you say its dkms
1230 [11:59:57] <NeedHelpHuh> i am debaitng i guess then just updating and downloading strech iso
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1236 [12:02:49] <NeedHelpHuh> but if you find a way i can do this like get the driver working on jessie please let me know as i really want to get it working or at least try
1237 [12:03:20] <jelly> ,v nvidia-kernel-dkms
1238 [12:03:21] <judd> Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 304.131-1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.102-1~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.106-1; stretch/non-free: 375.82-1~deb9u1; jessie-backports/non-free: 384.130-1~bpo8+1; stretch-proposed-updates/non-free: 384.130-1; stretch-backports/non-free: 390.48-2~bpo9+3; buster/non-free: 390.48-3; sid/non-free: 390.67-1
1239 [12:03:55] <NeedHelpHuh> so try installing nvidia-kernel-dkms?
1240 [12:04:07] <jelly> blackflow: please don't tell people to add repos from a newer release.
1241 [12:04:28] <jelly> !nvidia dkms
1242 [12:04:28] <dpkg> For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist.
1243 [12:04:35] <jelly> NeedHelpHuh: do something like that &
1244 [12:04:40] <jelly> ^
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1248 [12:05:48] <NeedHelpHuh> okay im so lost though so i need to install aptitutde?
1249 [12:06:02] <jelly> if you're missing it, yeah
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1251 [12:06:22] <NeedHelpHuh> ok ok wait i have that nvm okay so what exactly ould i do?
1252 [12:06:26] <NeedHelpHuh> just copy and paste that?
1253 [12:06:36] <NeedHelpHuh> or i have to do more research in my specifics?
1254 [12:06:51] <jelly> the whole command inside « », adapted to your jessie-backports needs
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1256 [12:07:21] <NeedHelpHuh> in what sense? sorry im kinda new man to linux
1257 [12:07:24] <NeedHelpHuh> like as you can tell
1258 [12:07:45] <jelly> so something like aptitude -r install linux-headers-amd64; aptitude -t jessie-backports install nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf
1259 [12:08:05] <jelly> oops, forgot -r on the second aptitude invocation as well
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1266 [12:11:25] <NeedHelpHuh> aptitude -r install linux-headers-amd64; aptitude -r jessie-backports install nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf
1267 [12:11:28] <NeedHelpHuh> like that?
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1269 [12:12:17] <jelly> aptitude -r install linux-headers-amd64; aptitude -r -t jessie-backports install nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf
1270 [12:12:31] <NeedHelpHuh> okay ty let me try this.
1271 [12:12:35] <NeedHelpHuh> *crosses fingers*
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1275 [12:14:10] <NeedHelpHuh> jelly: replaced-url
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1285 [12:21:10] <NeedHelpHuh> wait updated sources let me try again
1286 [12:21:41] <NeedHelpHuh> aptitude -r install linux-headers-amd64; aptitude -r -t jessie-backports install nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.confNo packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking
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1288 [12:21:42] <NeedHelpHuh> jelly.
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1294 [12:27:09] <NeedHelpHuh> if i upgrade to strech do i think i will solve this problem?
1295 [12:27:22] <NeedHelpHuh> like if redownload debian and install the new version?
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1318 [12:51:49] <blackflow> NeedHelpHuh: you should be able to upgrade from Jessie to Stretch without needing to reinstall from scratch.
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1321 [12:53:40] <NeedHelpHuh> how would i do that? Just download iso and put i into computer?
1322 [12:53:55] <NeedHelpHuh> or how would i go about doinmg that blackflow ?
1323 [12:54:36] <NeedHelpHuh> im just used to a much crisp display lmao
1324 [12:54:44] <NeedHelpHuh> after years of having drivers porperly installed.. :(
1325 [12:55:23] <blackflow> NeedHelpHuh: for example: replaced-url
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1331 [13:02:31] <chocolate> I have a server running linux text mode only, and it has a collection of books... I want to have it online to be read in the kindle by the webpage or smartphone connecting by opds for example (everything synced)... anyone know if is there any released solution to manage books like this?
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1384 [13:50:57] <NeedHelpHuh> blackflow, replaced-url
1385 [13:51:05] <NeedHelpHuh> im having this problem following that guide
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1387 [13:52:16] <NeedHelpHuh> spelling error one second lmafo
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1389 [13:57:08] <NeedHelpHuh> well here goes nothing i just really hope this fucking driver starts working after this upgrade although i ahve a feeling i ahve alot more work 2 do
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1404 [14:06:49] <m712> hi, since i installed debian sid on my pc a few weeks back, my computer will always hang for 30s at boot then just say "Gave up waiting for suspend/resume device" and boot normally. I set the /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume to the correct UUID, even re-formatted my swap and re-adjusted the UUID, then built my initramfs using that but still the same error. how can i get rid of this?
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1406 [14:07:09] <dvs> !debian-next
1407 [14:07:09] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
1408 [14:07:33] <m712> okay, thanks, i'll check it out.
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1423 [14:18:11] <__m4ch1n3__> is it possible to move i915(intel gpu) module to initrd and load it earlier?
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1426 [14:21:28] <RoyK> I'd guess it's probably in the initrd already
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1443 [14:33:45] <__m4ch1n3__> hmm seems it is loaded short before lightdm and X is launched, would like to load i915 as early as possible and add a initrd hook for intel_panel_fitter to fix underscan on display/hdmi-tv
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1455 [14:40:28] <yasir> hi
1456 [14:40:28] <__m4ch1n3__> think it is usually loaded when xorg.conf is executed...
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1459 [14:41:54] <__m4ch1n3__> hi
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1493 [15:07:21] <limbo_> Any suggestions for an ftp server that doesn't require user accounts on the system itself to be added? I don't need any write access over ftp.
1494 [15:08:01] <limbo_> I've tried proftp and pure-ftp, and some others. couldn't grok any of them/didn't work.
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1509 [15:14:22] <trickytyper> after upadting!! Detected NVIDIA GPUs:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GM206 [GeForce GTX 950] [10de:1402] (rev a1)Checking card: NVIDIA Corporation GM206 [GeForce GTX 950] (rev a1)Your card is supported by the default drivers.It is recommended to install thenvidia-drive blackflow
1510 [15:14:25] <trickytyper> !!!
1511 [15:14:25] <dpkg> I'm not your csh prompt!
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1513 [15:14:30] <trickytyper> it found my card, now what next?
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1515 [15:14:38] <trickytyper> do i restart in order to be able to change resolution u think from now on ?
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1518 [15:16:32] <__m4ch1n3__> you should be able change res without nvidia driver
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1524 [15:18:55] <__m4ch1n3__> try "xrand"
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1526 [15:19:43] <TrickkyTyper> You are a god ! blackflow
1527 [15:19:51] <TrickkyTyper> got it workign!! my resoultion is back to normal!! as if im using windows!!
1528 [15:19:54] <TrickkyTyper> yees!
1529 [15:20:17] <__m4ch1n3__> xrandr without arguments should list displays and compatible mods/resolutions
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1532 [15:22:53] <__m4ch1n3__> xrandr --output <DISPLAY-DEVICE> --mode <X-RES>x<Y-RES>
1533 [15:23:20] <__m4ch1n3__> e.g xrandr --output HDMI-1-1 --mode 1920x1080
1534 [15:23:41] <TrickkyTyper> so i have fixed my resolution issue, by upgrading to Stretch, but now i when i start steam it doesnt work, so what i did was do nvidia-detect and i got this message: Detected NVIDIA GPUs:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GM206 [GeForce GTX 950] [10de:1402] (rev a1)Checking card: NVIDIA Corporation GM206 [GeForce GTX 950] (rev a1)Your card is supported by the default drivers.It is
1535 [15:23:41] <TrickkyTyper> recommended to install thenvidia-driver
1536 [15:23:54] <TrickkyTyper> What do i do in order to get it to work, i have installed apt-get install nvidia-driver
1537 [15:24:02] <TrickkyTyper> and nothing changed, do i need to restart?
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1539 [15:24:30] <__m4ch1n3__> would first "apt-get purge nvidia-*"
1540 [15:24:34] <__m4ch1n3__> then reboot
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1542 [15:24:46] <__m4ch1n3__> then install nvidia again
1543 [15:24:53] <__m4ch1n3__> and reboot again
1544 [15:25:35] <TrickkyTyper> okay thank you
1545 [15:25:52] <__m4ch1n3__> after install nvidia again and before reboot
1546 [15:26:27] <__m4ch1n3__> check if nouveau driver is blacklisted
1547 [15:27:04] <__m4ch1n3__> grep nouveau /etc/modprobe.d/*
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1549 [15:27:15] <__m4ch1n3__> should return something like
1550 [15:27:38] <__m4ch1n3__> /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-blacklists-nouveau.conf:blacklist nouveau
1551 [15:27:43] <TrickkyTyper> pre reinstall i tried apt-get install nvidia-driver
1552 [15:27:45] <TrickkyTyper> and got this now pt-get install nvidia-driverReading package lists... DoneBuilding dependency treeReading state information... DoneSome packages could not be installed. This may mean that you haverequested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstabledistribution that some required packages have not yet been createdor been moved out of Incoming.The following information may help to resolve the
1553 [15:27:45] <TrickkyTyper> situation:The following packages have unmet dependencies:libgl1 : Depends: libglx0 (= 1.0.0+git20180308-2~bpo9+1) but it is not going to be installednvidia-driver : Depends: nvidia-driver-libs (= 375.82-1~deb9u1) but it is not going to be installedDepends: nvidia-driver-bin (= 375.82-1~deb9u1) but it is not going to be installedDepends: xserver-xorg-video-nvidia (= 375.82-1~deb9u1) but it is not going to be
1554 [15:27:45] <TrickkyTyper> installedDepends: nvidia-vdpau-driver (= 375.82-1~deb9u1) but it is not going to be installedDepends: nvidia-alternative (= 375.82-1~deb9u1)Recommends: nvidia-settings (>= 375) but it is not going to be installedRecommends: nvidia-persistencednvidia-kernel-dkms : Depends: nvidia-kernel-support--v1E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held
1555 [15:27:50] <TrickkyTyper> i ever saw that before :(
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1558 [15:28:33] <__m4ch1n3__> apt-get purge nvidia-*
1559 [15:28:35] <__m4ch1n3__> reboot
1560 [15:28:46] <__m4ch1n3__> then "apt-get install nvidia-driver"
1561 [15:29:26] <__m4ch1n3__> make sure you have non-free in your sources.list
1562 [15:29:43] <TrickkyTyper> okay let me reboot since i did the purge
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1565 [15:29:47] <TrickkyTyper> before i try to add it agian brb
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1571 [15:31:47] <TrickkyTyper> okay restarted
1572 [15:31:48] <TrickkyTyper> lets try her out
1573 [15:32:32] <__m4ch1n3__> check /etc/apt/sources.list first
1574 [15:32:48] <TrickkyTyper> sigh i got this
1575 [15:32:48] <TrickkyTyper> replaced-url
1576 [15:32:55] <TrickkyTyper> let me check it
1577 [15:33:29] <TrickkyTyper> replaced-url
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1579 [15:33:32] <TrickkyTyper> thats my sources
1580 [15:33:36] <__m4ch1n3__> you should have "main contrib non-free" at the end of evry deb replaced-url
1581 [15:34:18] <TrickkyTyper> nvivida detect still states this
1582 [15:34:18] <TrickkyTyper> replaced-url
1583 [15:34:19] <__m4ch1n3__> looks ok,
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1585 [15:34:26] <TrickkyTyper> okay let me add it?
1586 [15:34:28] <TrickkyTyper> what you recommended?
1587 [15:34:38] <TrickkyTyper> main contrib non-free to every deb?
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1589 [15:35:04] <__m4ch1n3__> your sources.list is fine
1590 [15:35:10] <TrickkyTyper> yea
1591 [15:35:13] <TrickkyTyper> so why doesnt it work
1592 [15:35:16] <__m4ch1n3__> apt-get install nvidia-driver
1593 [15:35:20] <TrickkyTyper> lets try it again
1594 [15:35:26] <__m4ch1n3__> sudo apt-get install nvidia-driver
1595 [15:35:32] <TrickkyTyper> using debian
1596 [15:35:33] <TrickkyTyper> im already su
1597 [15:35:34] <TrickkyTyper> root
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1599 [15:36:07] <TrickkyTyper> now its working
1600 [15:36:09] <TrickkyTyper> downloading ;)
1601 [15:36:11] <TrickkyTyper> lets see yehaw
1602 [15:36:40] <__m4ch1n3__> then before reboot check if free nvidia driver is blacklisted
1603 [15:36:54] <__m4ch1n3__> grep nouveau /etc/modprobe.d/*
1604 [15:37:07] <TrickkyTyper> okay
1605 [15:37:09] <TrickkyTyper> lets check
1606 [15:37:26] <TrickkyTyper> returned /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-blacklists-nouveau.conf:blacklist nouveau
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1608 [15:37:50] <TrickkyTyper> becasue if i run detect-nvidia or vice versa again it gigves me same message
1609 [15:37:50] <__m4ch1n3__> ok now reboot again and it should work
1610 [15:37:56] <TrickkyTyper> to install nivida-driver
1611 [15:38:01] <TrickkyTyper> okay perfect let me try that one out
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1613 [15:38:03] <TrickkyTyper> fingers crossed**
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1615 [15:38:09] <__m4ch1n3__> he? what gives you the message?
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1618 [15:39:17] <__m4ch1n3__> oh dectect-nvidia, hmm never used it tbh
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1623 [15:40:51] <TrickkyTyper> didnt work
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1625 [15:41:04] <TrickkyTyper> so im back into my system and if i do nvidia-detect i get the same message as before recommneded to download nvdia-driver
1626 [15:41:05] <TrickkyTyper> lmao
1627 [15:41:21] <__m4ch1n3__> forget nvidia-detect
1628 [15:41:35] <__m4ch1n3__> try nvidia-settings
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1630 [15:42:09] <TrickkyTyper> so yes
1631 [15:42:11] <TrickkyTyper> it worked!
1632 [15:42:12] <TrickkyTyper> lol
1633 [15:42:18] <TrickkyTyper> okay lemme look at this
1634 [15:42:19] <__m4ch1n3__> :)
1635 [15:42:22] <TrickkyTyper> my sensai
1636 [15:42:41] <TrickkyTyper> yes baby!!
1637 [15:42:45] <TrickkyTyper> now i just need steam to start up for me
1638 [15:42:53] <__m4ch1n3__> hmmm
1639 [15:43:02] <TinkerTiger> If it's not one thing, it's two more.
1640 [15:43:17] <TrickkyTyper> haha well im just missing LibGl.so.1
1641 [15:43:20] <TrickkyTyper> for the 32bit librareis
1642 [15:43:24] <TrickkyTyper> but i can google that i guess
1643 [15:43:27] <__m4ch1n3__> on my machine performance in debian is way better then in windows in steam gameshave
1644 [15:43:33] <TrickkyTyper> :O
1645 [15:43:35] <TrickkyTyper> thats what i want
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1647 [15:44:01] <__m4ch1n3__> na just "apt-get install steam"
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1649 [15:44:44] <__m4ch1n3__> everything you need is in debian repository
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1653 [15:45:54] <__m4ch1n3__> it will install a shitload on packages cuz steam need i386 libs
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1655 [15:46:46] <TrickkyTyper> when i try to run steam replaced-url
1656 [15:46:54] <TrickkyTyper> so i did that apt-get install steam and i get this
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1658 [15:47:59] <__m4ch1n3__> "You are missing the following 32-bit libraries, and Steam may not run:"
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1660 [15:48:39] <__m4ch1n3__> not sure how you installed steam without installing i386 libs, guess you installed it before nvidia driver?
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1662 [15:49:22] <__m4ch1n3__> installing steam with apt from debian repo should get all packages
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1664 [15:51:17] <TrickkyTyper> yea i dunno thats really wierd
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1666 [15:51:21] <TrickkyTyper> but what i did was purge steam
1667 [15:51:28] <__m4ch1n3__> you could try del the local user steam directory
1668 [15:51:29] <TrickkyTyper> remove it completely , remove the home folder it had .steam
1669 [15:51:32] <TrickkyTyper> exactly
1670 [15:51:34] <TrickkyTyper> and reinstaleld
1671 [15:51:35] <TrickkyTyper> same issue
1672 [15:51:40] <__m4ch1n3__> should be ~/.steam or so
1673 [15:51:51] <__m4ch1n3__> and then "apt-get install --reinstall steam"
1674 [15:51:56] <TrickkyTyper> well nowi i have it
1675 [15:52:01] <TrickkyTyper> so remove that
1676 [15:52:06] <TrickkyTyper> and uninstall steam again with apt-get purge?
1677 [15:52:47] <__m4ch1n3__> hmm sounds good
1678 [15:52:52] <TrickkyTyper> ok let me try this
1679 [15:53:17] <TrickkyTyper> steam folder gone time to purge the isntall
1680 [15:53:27] <__m4ch1n3__> steam is a sort of package manager so make sure you removed local user steam dir
1681 [15:54:02] <TrickkyTyper> yea i removed rm -r ~/.steam
1682 [15:54:04] <TrickkyTyper> right?
1683 [15:54:13] <TrickkyTyper> purged the install and now will do the apt-get install --reinstall steam option
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1685 [15:54:22] <TrickkyTyper> correct?
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1687 [15:54:37] <__m4ch1n3__> yeah and try "apt-get -f install"
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1689 [15:54:47] <TrickkyTyper> apt-get -f install --reinstall steam
1690 [15:54:49] <__m4ch1n3__> should install missing packages
1691 [15:54:49] <TrickkyTyper> ?
1692 [15:54:52] <TrickkyTyper> okay
1693 [15:54:54] <__m4ch1n3__> no
1694 [15:54:57] <TrickkyTyper> crosses fingers
1695 [15:55:00] <__m4ch1n3__> only "apt-get -f install"
1696 [15:55:19] <TrickkyTyper> wierd trhing is after i ddi that
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1699 [15:55:51] <TrickkyTyper> after i did the purge it still shows up i nmy application finder
1700 [15:55:54] <TrickkyTyper> as if stea ms istill there
1701 [15:55:57] <TrickkyTyper> steam is still there**
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1705 [15:56:15] <TrickkyTyper> running it does attempt to update steam wtf lol
1706 [15:56:16] <__m4ch1n3__> hmm gues its only a shortcut
1707 [15:56:17] <TrickkyTyper> but i just removed it?
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1709 [15:57:08] <__m4ch1n3__> "apt-get install steam"
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1711 [15:57:27] <__m4ch1n3__> and if it doesnt get i386 libs
1712 [15:57:39] <__m4ch1n3__> try "apt-get -f install"
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1714 [15:57:51] <TrickkyTyper> perfect i found the other folder
1715 [15:57:54] <TrickkyTyper> i revemod it now
1716 [15:58:10] <TrickkyTyper> it givesd me a new install agreement
1717 [15:58:19] <TrickkyTyper> when i click it from the applocation finder is now a good time to apt-get install it?
1718 [15:58:23] <TrickkyTyper> or do i still have to remove things?
1719 [15:58:40] <__m4ch1n3__> he wait :D
1720 [15:59:02] <__m4ch1n3__> type "command -v steam" in terminal
1721 [15:59:02] <TrickkyTyper> ?
1722 [15:59:20] <__m4ch1n3__> what does it say
1723 [15:59:25] <TrickkyTyper> usr bin steam
1724 [16:00:01] <__m4ch1n3__> ok so you dindt purge steam, k then first try "apt-get -f install"
1725 [16:00:26] <TrickkyTyper> of what?
1726 [16:00:27] <TrickkyTyper> steam?>
1727 [16:00:35] <__m4ch1n3__> no just
1728 [16:00:41] <__m4ch1n3__> apt-get -f install
1729 [16:00:44] <TrickkyTyper> 2 me it went through purge command
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1731 [16:01:12] <TrickkyTyper> Reading package lists... Doneuilding dependency tree Reading state information... DonePackage 'steam:i386' is not installed, so not removed upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.oot@Server:/usr/bin#
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1733 [16:02:25] <TrickkyTyper> sigh still stuck wit ha broken version of steam haha
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1736 [16:03:47] <TrickkyTyper> still get /usr/bin/steam even after i purged lol
1737 [16:03:48] <TrickkyTyper> i promiss
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1740 [16:04:11] <__m4ch1n3__> ls /usr/bin/steam
1741 [16:05:06] <__m4ch1n3__> "ls /usr/bin/steam" and post what it returns
1742 [16:05:56] <TrickkyTyper> ues it might ahve worked
1743 [16:05:59] <TrickkyTyper> i removed that whjole folder
1744 [16:06:06] <TrickkyTyper> and now when i click steam in application finder nothing happens
1745 [16:06:15] <__m4ch1n3__> "ls /usr/bin/steam" and post what it returns
1746 [16:06:17] <TrickkyTyper> so how do i install it properly so i dont annoy you again lmao
1747 [16:06:34] <TrickkyTyper> as root
1748 [16:06:35] <TrickkyTyper> ls: cannot access '/usr/bin/steam': No such file or directory
1749 [16:06:36] <TrickkyTyper> ;)
1750 [16:06:52] <__m4ch1n3__> "apt-geti install steam" and pastebin the console output
1751 [16:07:01] <TrickkyTyper> roger that
1752 [16:07:02] <TrickkyTyper> apt-get install steam
1753 [16:07:03] <__m4ch1n3__> *apt-get
1754 [16:07:20] <__m4ch1n3__> affirmative
1755 [16:07:23] <__m4ch1n3__> :D
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1757 [16:08:00] <TrickkyTyper> yhes sir, replaced-url
1758 [16:08:08] <TrickkyTyper> you did a mighty good job with me bro ur hella helping!
1759 [16:08:19] <TrickkyTyper> good sign or na?
1760 [16:09:41] <TrickkyTyper> well now it does nothing in application finder whe ni click steam
1761 [16:09:44] <TrickkyTyper> nothing at all happens
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1763 [16:10:08] <TrickkyTyper> over console it works
1764 [16:10:10] <TrickkyTyper> so ill have to fix it
1765 [16:10:14] <TrickkyTyper> via shortcut :)
1766 [16:10:16] <__m4ch1n3__> start it from terminal
1767 [16:10:16] <TrickkyTyper> ur amaszing bro
1768 [16:10:18] <__m4ch1n3__> steam
1769 [16:10:19] <TrickkyTyper> yes
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1771 [16:10:30] <TrickkyTyper> now how do i change that account in application finder to start steam via terminal
1772 [16:10:56] <__m4ch1n3__> just open terminal and type "steam"
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1775 [16:12:31] <TrickkyTyper> sigh __m4ch1n3__ how about this one
1776 [16:12:31] <TrickkyTyper> replaced-url
1777 [16:12:37] <TrickkyTyper> still missing the sameeeeeeeeee files
1778 [16:12:38] <TrickkyTyper> lmafo
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1780 [16:13:14] <TrickkyTyper> loll Error: You are missing the following 32-bit libraries, and Steam may not run:libGL.so.1
1781 [16:14:07] <TrickkyTyper> replaced-url
1782 [16:14:12] <TrickkyTyper> same problem
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1784 [16:17:18] <TrickkyTyper> __m4ch1n3__, another trying work around, same problem replaced-url
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1789 [16:19:00] <__m4ch1n3__> try "apt-get --fix-missing install"
1790 [16:20:35] <__m4ch1n3__> and if it still doesnt work then
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1792 [16:21:26] <__m4ch1n3__> apt-get install nvidia-driver-libs:i386 nvidia-driver-libs-i386:i386 libgl1:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:i386
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1794 [16:21:44] <oo_miguel> I want to start an unprivilived lxc container but it tells me: Permission denied - Could not access /home/miguel. Please grant it x access, or add an ACL for the container root. Why does it want to access my home dir?
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1810 [16:34:20] <__m4ch1n3__> TrickkyTyper, and?
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1837 [16:47:02] <TrickkyTyper> hold on
1838 [16:47:04] <TrickkyTyper> lemme get back
1839 [16:47:06] <TrickkyTyper> __m4ch1n3__,
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1841 [16:47:36] <TrickkyTyper> apt-get --fix-missing install
1842 [16:47:36] <TrickkyTyper> Reading package lists... Done
1843 [16:47:36] <TrickkyTyper> Building dependency tree
1844 [16:47:36] <TrickkyTyper> Reading state information... Done
1845 [16:47:36] <TrickkyTyper> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
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1850 [16:48:16] <TrickkyTyper> __m4ch1n3__, okay its installing the second one you suggested
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1852 [16:48:22] <TrickkyTyper> the other two didnt come up with anything
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1854 [16:49:41] <TrickkyTyper> YES
1855 [16:49:42] <TrickkyTyper> IT WORKED
1856 [16:49:46] <TrickkyTyper> ur a chapion!
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1866 [16:55:06] <TrickkyTyper> an all night from jessie to stretch
1867 [16:55:08] <TrickkyTyper> im very pelased
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1869 [16:55:15] <TrickkyTyper> no virtual hiccups just my own
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1937 [17:48:30] <bdax> not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I'm guessing you lot would know: I'm trying to compile a library which I will statically link against, and I'm trying to figure out everything I need to put in `LDFLAGS="{here}" ./configure ...`. If the pkg-config for this library says I need `-lxml2 -lpthread -lm etc` when linking against this library, do those need to be specified when building it too?
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1986 [18:21:58] <p0lyph3m> s/paameter/parameter/
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2012 [18:33:15] <Gringonar_> I'm having trouble booting/installing debian, Anyone willing to help?
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2024 [18:35:38] <TrickkyTyper> just wanted to say thanks again to everyoenm who stayed awake helping me upgrade jessie to stretch and to getting my nvriders working to install and play CSGO
2025 [18:35:40] <TrickkyTyper> I am very excited :D
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2029 [18:36:42] <Gringonar_> They may still be passed out ^^
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2035 [18:38:25] <diverdude> Hi, I am trying to import matplotlib in my python program, and I am getting this: "QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-bdi'" whereafter python just hangs. I know this is some debian problem because on other machines i can easily use matplotlib in python. What seems to be the problem here?
2036 [18:38:26] <mtn> !ask
2037 [18:38:26] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
2038 [18:38:37] <mtn> Gringonar_: ^^
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2043 [18:41:10] <Pusteblume> diverdude, maybe you are missing a required package like xdg-user-dirs
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2046 [18:42:11] <diverdude> Pusteblume: hmm trying to install that just gives me: xdg-user-dirs is already the newest version.
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2048 [18:43:01] <Pusteblume> diverdude, and you are running on python2 or 3?
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2050 [18:43:16] <diverdude> Pusteblume: python3
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2057 [18:44:31] <Gringonar_> i think i'm having a kernal panic during start up
2058 [18:44:41] <mtn> Gringonar_: explain in detail
2059 [18:44:47] <Gringonar_> Its very new hardware
2060 [18:45:06] <Gringonar_> after im trying the live version
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2064 [18:46:15] <Gringonar_> it get stuck during boot and gives a bunch of hardware error messages
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2066 [18:46:49] <Gringonar_> i cant make heads nor tails of it
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2068 [18:47:11] <mtn> Gringonar_: paste the errors to dpaste.com and give us the link, or take a pic and put it on imgur.com
2069 [18:47:33] <Gringonar_> cant boot into nothing to copy or paste
2070 [18:47:52] <Gringonar_> i can upload a picture if that helps?
2071 [18:48:43] <Pusteblume> its bad style to answer with links, right?
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2074 [18:49:37] <Pusteblume> cause, diverdude, this here is the closest solution i got: replaced-url
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2076 [18:50:32] <diverdude> Pusteblume: thanks
2077 [18:51:30] <Gringonar_> :(
2078 [18:52:11] <nkuttler> Gringonar_: try booting other kernels first, if that doesn't help take a picture i guess
2079 [18:52:55] <nkuttler> Gringonar_: or if you changed the hardware configuration of the machine, undo that..
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2085 [18:55:59] <Gringonar_> its a brand new laptop
2086 [18:56:20] <Gringonar_> Its my first time installing linux on a laptop
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2088 [18:57:08] <heston> hello, is anyone aware of a problem with lightdb on debian stretch? It's failing to show my screen after my laptop puts the screen to sleep. It still allows me to login but then other things appear to be broken as well
2089 [18:57:18] <nkuttler> Gringonar_: what model?
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2091 [18:57:44] <Gringonar_> msi GE73 8RF
2092 [18:58:04] <heston> I've been having a lot of problems with Stretch, Had to completely disable Hibernation and Sleep because they were happening randomly and failing
2093 [18:58:27] <heston> lightdm*
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2095 [18:58:57] <Gringonar_> it has 8750 cpu coffee lake
2096 [18:59:08] <Gringonar_> It 8750K
2097 [18:59:16] <nkuttler> Gringonar_: screenshot of the error please
2098 [18:59:24] <Gringonar_> ok
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2101 [19:01:09] <heston> never had these problems with Wheezy on the same laptop(thinkpad T500)
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2111 [19:05:42] <dreamblack> Hi all
2112 [19:06:09] <Gringonar_> nkuttler: replaced-url
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2114 [19:06:47] <Gringonar_> brb
2115 [19:06:58] <mtn> heston: what is your video hardware?
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2119 [19:07:48] <heston> mtn, how come I don't have this issue on any other OS? Debian Wheezy, NETBSD, Win 7
2120 [19:07:55] <mtn> heston: what is your video hardware?
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2124 [19:08:43] <heston> mtn, Intel GMA 4500MHD
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2126 [19:10:08] <mtn> heston: that is a pretty old chip and a quick search shows others with issues with it using stretch
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2128 [19:10:51] <heston> I had none of these issues while using Wheezy
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2131 [19:11:24] <mtn> heston: wheezy uses older software than does stretch
2132 [19:11:46] <heston> which means there's been new bugs introduced
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2134 [19:12:23] <mtn> heston: maybe just lack of support for older hardware using newer software
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2165 [19:27:12] <Gringonar_> mtn: NV 1070
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2181 [19:37:31] <Gringonar_> nkuttler: Did it show anything usefull?
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2184 [19:38:37] <__m4ch1n3__> how to disable networkmanager permanently? "systemctl disable NetworkManager.service" has no effect.
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2186 [19:39:58] <strive> __m4ch1n3__: Try masking it.
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2189 [19:40:56] <strive> Masking the service will make the service impossible to start.
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2195 [19:42:56] <__m4ch1n3__> oh thats not true, it has an effect, my nm dispatcher script is disabled but nm autostarts after reboot, k will try to mask it when figured out how to mask services
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2199 [19:44:32] <strive> Temporarily: systemctl mask NetworkManager.service --runtime
2200 [19:44:45] <__m4ch1n3__> ah k, nice thx
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2202 [19:44:59] <strive> Ensure units are also stopped: systemctl mask NetworkManager.service --now
2203 [19:45:24] <strive> It's all in 'man systemctl'.
2204 [19:45:29] <strive> Sure thing! :)
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2233 [20:02:12] <Gringonar_> Is coffee lake supported in debian?
2234 [20:02:17] <__m4ch1n3__> curious about wpa_supplicant driver variety wext, nl80211, madwifi, ndis. ndis is for "windows driver" devices like some fritz dongles, madwifi for older atheros chipsets
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2237 [20:04:23] <__m4ch1n3__> are thes just diffrent implementations for one protocol?
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2315 [20:48:58] <somiaj> Gringonar_: look up support in the linux kernel, determine what linux kernel is required to support cofee lake. Debian stretch's default kernel is 4.9, if you need a newer kernel like 4.16, you can get that in stretch-backports (but if you need that kernel to install, this can be more problemmatic)
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2324 [20:55:55] <melissa666> how do I create a root account on a Debian system that was installed without root account (only sudo user)?
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2327 [20:58:10] <GNU\colossus> you always have a root account; it just doesn't have to have a password set
2328 [20:58:17] <GNU\colossus> `sudo passwd root` can change that
2329 [20:58:36] <somiaj> melissa666: or just sudo -i, become root
2330 [20:58:41] <somiaj> no need to create a password if you have sudo
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2332 [21:00:28] <melissa666> somiaj, thanks - I just want to disable ability for regular user to run all commands with sudo (and limit to small specific set). I want the root password required to become root.
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2336 [21:01:51] <melissa666> GNU\colossus, appreciate it - `sudo passwd root` is what I needed
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2338 [21:02:19] <Gringonar_> How could you fix a kernel panic?
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2341 [21:03:19] <somiaj> melissa666: you might also have to unlock the root account, check the new password works and unlocked the accoutn first
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2344 [21:04:55] <GNU\colossus> Gringonar_, you need to figure out the precise cause before you can think about "fixing" a panic
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2348 [21:07:37] <Gringonar_> How can i do that?
2349 [21:08:39] <GNU\colossus> Gringonar_, that depends on how/when the panic happens. can you describe what you are doing with your system right before/ when the kernel panics?
2350 [21:08:51] <GNU\colossus> and can you reproduce the issue at will?
2351 [21:09:22] <Gringonar_> yeah its simple lol
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2353 [21:10:20] <Murii_> hey, I need a place to run redshift everytime I boot
2354 [21:10:25] <Gringonar_> Any distro i write to usb as live gives a panic during boot
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2356 [21:10:27] <Murii_> suggestions?
2357 [21:10:37] <Gringonar_> I tried fedora kernel 4.17
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2360 [21:11:01] <Gringonar_> Ubuntu Kernel 4.15
2361 [21:11:11] <Gringonar_> and my trusty deb :(
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2363 [21:11:52] <Gringonar_> replaced-url
2364 [21:12:03] <Gringonar_> this is the error deb gives me
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2366 [21:12:46] <GNU\colossus> Gringonar_, that's no kernel panic; that's just debug output by the kernel about device discovery
2367 [21:12:53] <Gringonar_> I can't make much sense of it
2368 [21:13:14] <Gringonar_> ok how can i prob the system?
2369 [21:13:17] <GNU\colossus> I think the problem you have is that your graphics card/solution (is this a lpatop?) isn't properly supported
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2371 [21:13:41] <Gringonar_> It is the nvidia 1070
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2373 [21:13:54] <silverballz> the graphics card is probably on the cpu as a gpu
2374 [21:14:00] <silverballz> nm
2375 [21:14:14] <Gringonar_> oh its the intel UHD 630
2376 [21:14:36] <Gringonar_> the cpu is I7 8750K
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2378 [21:15:12] <GNU\colossus> I'm afraid I have no experience with that particular mix of hardware
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2380 [21:15:31] <Gringonar_> ok
2381 [21:15:44] <GNU\colossus> but if you can find a way to install the recent proprietary nivida drivers, or boot a live distro that comes with them pre-installed
2382 [21:15:49] <Gringonar_> do you know anywhere i can find more information?
2383 [21:15:50] <GNU\colossus> you problem will probably go away
2384 [21:16:18] <GNU\colossus> Gringonar_, I'm not sure, but replaced-url
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2388 [21:16:46] <silverballz> you might be able to just add the drivers to the usb
2389 [21:17:27] <Gringonar_> I'm not too experienced with that
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2391 [21:17:54] <GNU\colossus> Gringonar_, you could try replaced-url
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2393 [21:18:17] <GNU\colossus> I have no experience using it, but it'd be a first step to validate your particular hardware can run a GUI on GNU/Linux :)
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2395 [21:18:47] <GNU\colossus> and you can try to make your distro of choice cooperate with your hardware after you've seen it's possible
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2397 [21:19:35] <Gringonar_> Yeah thats my intention
2398 [21:19:49] <Gringonar_> I'm trying to switch away from windows
2399 [21:20:13] <Gringonar_> but i only ever had experience with debian and that time it worked out of the box
2400 [21:20:38] <silverballz> this is for the debian installer but you could try this: replaced-url
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2402 [21:21:12] <silverballz> once you have the intel drivers just extract and copy them to /lib/firmware/
2403 [21:21:37] <silverballz> its worked for me before but i never tried it with a live distro
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2406 [21:22:10] <Gringonar_> oh ok
2407 [21:22:14] <GNU\colossus> silverballz, that will do nothing to remedy his current problem, however
2408 [21:22:24] <silverballz> if that dont work it could be a bios setting
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2412 [21:22:46] <silverballz> well so far we need more information to even identify the problem, we are just guessing at best lol
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2414 [21:23:18] <Gringonar_> Yeah im trying to learn how to get more information
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2417 [21:24:22] <GNU\colossus> Gringonar_, the easiest way to test _if_ there is a substantial problem, is to fire up a distro that should be prepared to deal with the hardware you have
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2448 [21:40:09] <Gringonar_> How can i find such a distro?
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2450 [21:40:26] <Gringonar_> btw the slackware one freezes just the same during boot
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2453 [21:40:59] <Gringonar_> since the screen stays blank after selecting boot Slackware live i assume its the same?
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2507 [22:15:59] <linuxcobbler> partition resize left me with "either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt" :( i've tried e2fsck -f -b <superblock> /dev/... but it's not working, aways has the same filesystem / physical size mismatch - what are my other options for recovering? this happened when shrinking fs, so fs size > physical size right now -fs = ext4
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2525 [22:28:35] <JPT> linuxcobbler: Perhaps resize2fs can help you a bit? If it complains that you need to run fsck first and if fsck complains, too, you could just resize that partition back to original size, then do fsck + shrinking the fs and then shrink the partition
2526 [22:28:50] <JPT> It's been a while since i last shrinked a partition
2527 [22:29:49] <JPT> Most important: Keep calm - unless you're already using that new "free space" for something, your data is still there.
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2529 [22:30:07] <JPT> (Also, in case things go wrong, be sure that your backups are still in good shape :)
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2535 [22:32:35] <JPT> If i remember correctly, e2resizefs requires a proper fsck being run before it is going to do things. After you have shrinked the filesystem, you can then adjust the size of your partition. After you've done that, verify that fsck is still fine with everything and then you should be done.
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2547 [22:36:15] <Gringonar_> GNU\colossus i tried it it freezes during boot without any messages
2548 [22:36:32] <Gringonar_> Just a blank screen
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2550 [22:37:16] <GNU\colossus> Gringonar_, hm :/ that's disappointing. you might have to fiddle with our BIOS/UEFI setup to get this machine to work
2551 [22:37:32] <GNU\colossus> (probably by deactivating one of the GPUs it has)
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2555 [22:44:12] <linuxcobbler> JPT: tried all of your suggestions, did not work - and yes, i still have free space but there should not be any data there anyway
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2558 [22:44:53] <linuxcobbler> fsck does not work (as noted above)... resize2fs does not work, also tried resize2fs <dev> <size of physical>
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2561 [22:46:49] <linuxcobbler> resize2fs: Can't read a block bitmap while trying to resize
2562 [22:47:47] <JPT> Okay ... can you paste your current state and - if still available - the commands you issued that got you into this situation?
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2564 [22:47:59] <JPT> Are you using fdisk/gdisk/parted?
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2567 [22:49:06] <JPT> You can use replaced-url
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2574 [22:54:49] <linuxcobbler> here are the last few command i've used: replaced-url
2575 [22:54:56] <linuxcobbler> JPT: ^
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2579 [22:56:23] <JPT> Oh
2580 [22:57:15] <strive> linuxcobbler: Your name would make for an awesome Linux group; #linuxcobbler
2581 [22:57:25] <JPT> Okay, so you have this: disk > partition > cryptsetup things > decrypted volume > actual filesystem
2582 [22:57:49] <JPT> I have no idea how cryptsetup deals with shrinking partitions
2583 [22:57:58] <linuxcobbler> strive: i just made it up as i don't have my original nick pw right now (i'm on a livecd)
2584 [22:58:07] <strive> linuxcobbler: Oh, haha.
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2586 [22:58:33] <linuxcobbler> JPT: the volume is decrypted properly that's not an issue AFAIK
2587 [22:58:53] <linuxcobbler> JPT: it's properly in /dev/mapper/
2588 [22:58:59] <JPT> Sure, the filesystem (or at least most of the parts) seem to be there
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2592 [23:00:40] <JPT> Okay, let's start with the actual partition on your disk: Is it still in its shrinked size or is it still in its original size?
2593 [23:01:32] <JPT> I assume that the size of your partition directly influence the size of your decrypted /dev/mapper device
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2595 [23:02:20] <JPT> Since your tools are complaining that they cannot read a bitmap or that the fs seems to be corrupt because it is larger than the mapper device that it lies on, i assume you maybe have a chance.
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2597 [23:03:02] <JPT> Unmount and close that /dev/mapper device, resize the partition on your disk to its original size, then open and decrypt that mapper device from that resized partition again.
2598 [23:03:36] <JPT> (make sure to run partprobe or something so the new partition size is known to your system before trying to decrypt that partition again)
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2600 [23:04:13] <JPT> I assume that if the partition size is still shrinked, the visible data on the decrypted mapper device is just "cut off". That's probably why your tools are complaining.
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2602 [23:04:27] <JPT> Does this sound plausible?
2603 [23:05:15] <linuxcobbler> i need to find out what my partition size is in 4k blocks
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2605 [23:05:47] <linuxcobbler> i don't have man pages on my live cd system - keep having to look them up on the internet
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2608 [23:06:07] <linuxcobbler> also, i'm not too sure i'm supposed to resize a partition while luks is encrypted
2609 [23:06:24] <linuxcobbler> i know that when the resizing (shrinking) was happening, luks was decrypted
2610 [23:07:07] <linuxcobbler> i've never seen any partition manager allowing the resizing of an luks encrupted partition - it always has to be decrypted
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2612 [23:08:04] <JPT> I'm not sure what you have inside your - let's call it - "luks container"
2613 [23:08:17] <JPT> I know for sure that you have a disk with a bunch of partitions on it.
2614 [23:08:23] <linuxcobbler> no
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2616 [23:08:29] <linuxcobbler> the whole disk is not encrypted
2617 [23:08:33] <linuxcobbler> just the one partition
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2619 [23:08:40] <JPT> For one of these partitions, you ran something like cryptsetup luksFormat and that one partition became your luks container.
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2622 [23:09:06] <JPT> So if you run cryptsetup luksOpen for that partition, you get a /dev/mapper device for that decrypted container.
2623 [23:09:19] <linuxcobbler> yes (your last reply)
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2626 [23:09:30] <JPT> What's inside it? Just a filesystem or is it GPT or MBR formatted with multiple partitions on it?
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2628 [23:09:48] <linuxcobbler> just 1 partition ext4
2629 [23:10:01] <JPT> So - no partition but just a plain filesystem?
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2631 [23:10:26] <JPT> (At least that's what most people would do)
2632 [23:10:30] <linuxcobbler> hrm good catch
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2634 [23:10:45] <linuxcobbler> how would i check?
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2636 [23:11:14] <JPT> If you run fdisk/gdisk/parted on that /dev/mapper device and ask it to print the partition table, you will see.
2637 [23:11:36] <JPT> I expect that there is no partition table at all, since your /dev/mapper device just contains that one filesystem
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2639 [23:13:18] <JPT> According to your pastebin, there shouldn't be a partition table. :)
2640 [23:14:08] <JPT> Okay. So we have: disk > partition > luks container with just one filesystem on it
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2644 [23:15:02] <linuxcobbler> JPT: replaced-url
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2648 [23:16:05] <linuxcobbler> ignore sdb that's the livecd
2649 [23:16:09] <linuxcobbler> live usb rather
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2651 [23:16:26] <JPT> Awesome. So /dev/sda2 contains your luks container /dev/mapper/homecrypt with just that filesystem on it.
2652 [23:17:30] <JPT> Currently, your /dev/sda2 is about 714.5G in size and this reflects almost 1:1 onto your /dev/mapper/homecrypt device. (There's a tiny overhead for the luks thing)
2653 [23:18:13] <linuxcobbler> yes, before shrinking that would have been around 735G or so (it was a 20G shrink attempt)
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2656 [23:19:21] <JPT> Okay. How far did you get with that shrinking attempt? Which steps did you go through (and in which order)?
2657 [23:19:25] <linuxcobbler> if you notice, there is a gap in sectors between sda2 and sda3, because sda2 was shrinking 20G (before sda2 would have reached sector 1917872127
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2660 [23:19:38] <linuxcobbler> JPT: i don't know, it was automated via partition manager
2661 [23:19:41] <JPT> Ah, okay.
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2664 [23:20:04] <JPT> At least you are still able to tell how large that partition must have been before the shrinking
2665 [23:20:07] <JPT> That's good
2666 [23:20:22] <linuxcobbler> i do know, that before shrink e3fsck was ok no errors, after shrink attemp, errors :(
2667 [23:20:40] <linuxcobbler> e2fsck
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2669 [23:20:58] <JPT> No worries, i think we have a good chance on this
2670 [23:21:04] <linuxcobbler> if i remember correctly, i saw inode errors but it could have been my imagination
2671 [23:21:04] <JPT> Just keep calm :)
2672 [23:21:09] <JPT> Assumption: I think your partition manager tried to first shrink the partition and then run something like resize2fs in order to get the fs shrinked to the new size.
2673 [23:21:09] <linuxcobbler> i'm calm
2674 [23:21:12] <linuxcobbler> very tired though :D
2675 [23:21:20] <linuxcobbler> takes me forever to read
2676 [23:21:38] <JPT> In that case, just make sure to double check the things you may be doing soon
2677 [23:21:50] <linuxcobbler> of course
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2679 [23:22:31] <JPT> So - if you have no fancy luks things, that partition manager would probably have done everything fine and things would be working.
2680 [23:22:54] <JPT> Unfortunately, that luks part adds a bit of additional things to take care of.
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2684 [23:23:14] <JPT> Here is what i would do to restore the previous situation:
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2686 [23:23:38] <JPT> 1) unmount and cryptsetup close that luks container
2687 [23:23:43] <linuxcobbler> well maybe, but you should note that about a year ago i did the exact same thing with success (on the exact system, except i think shrinking was 130G to make room for sda4)
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2691 [23:24:10] <linuxcobbler> that's why sda4 is after swap (i also probably recreated swap)
2692 [23:24:38] <JPT> I guess sometimes things don't go as expected. A partition manager is nice and usually works fine. In this scenario, something went wrong.
2693 [23:24:50] <linuxcobbler> yep, first time in 25 years!
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2695 [23:25:12] <JPT> Okay, so back to the steps to restore the situation:
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2697 [23:25:31] <JPT> After closing that luks container properly, enlarge the /dev/sda2 partition back to its previous size
2698 [23:25:32] <RoyK> JPT: why do you use partitions when you can use lvm?
2699 [23:25:50] <TrickkyTyper> rt
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2702 [23:26:20] <RoyK> rt?
2703 [23:26:24] <JPT> RoyK: I use both depending on what i need to do.
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2708 [23:27:33] <linuxcobbler> JPT: ok, so how would i go about resizing to EXACTLY the same size?
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2713 [23:28:47] <JPT> I like to use gdisk to 1) print the current partition table, 2) delete the partition in question and 3) re-create that partition with the same(!) starting point and the largest possible ending point (which is restricted by the other existing partitions in your case)
2714 [23:29:20] <JPT> (Also, it's probably a good idea to choose the same partition type)
2715 [23:30:38] <JPT> After this is done, running something like partprobe is probably a good idea so the kernel knows about the different partition size.
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2717 [23:31:43] <linuxcobbler> JPT: makes sense, i'm trying to see if i can recover more data on the original sda2 size
2718 [23:32:19] <JPT> If that still does not cut it, you can use cryptsetup status /dev/mapper/homecrypt to get information about the containers size.
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2720 [23:33:08] <JPT> There is also cryptsetup resize which may be helpful and - as far as i know - should be able to automatically adapt the size of the container if possible. (Maybe not for shrinking, but at least for enlarging)
2721 [23:33:46] <JPT> At least, you should be able to return to a state where fsck is happy again.
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2727 [23:36:25] <linuxcobbler> cryptsetup resize is not needed if you close or open as that's automatic AFAIK
2728 [23:36:34] <linuxcobbler> cryptsetup status: replaced-url
2729 [23:37:32] <JPT> yup, that adds up perfectly with your shrinked partition size
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2731 [23:37:58] <linuxcobbler> where do you see that?
2732 [23:38:03] <JPT> (size of your shrinked partition in sectors) - (size of your luks container in sectors) = 4096
2733 [23:38:13] <JPT> 1498429440 - 1498425344 = 4096
2734 [23:38:16] <linuxcobbler> ooooooooh
2735 [23:38:17] <linuxcobbler> yes
2736 [23:38:18] <JPT> and 4096 is the offset :)
2737 [23:38:22] <linuxcobbler> 4096 by luks
2738 [23:38:26] <linuxcobbler> smart :D
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2740 [23:38:49] <JPT> It may not be automatic like a partition manager, but this way i still learn a lot :)
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2742 [23:39:24] <JPT> So when your partition is back to its original size, you can compare the cryptsetup status to see if it's already in good state
2743 [23:39:31] <linuxcobbler> yes that's usually the best way (if you have time)
2744 [23:40:06] <linuxcobbler> will do still trying to check if i can recover data re pre-shrink status - will take a few more min
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2746 [23:40:33] <linuxcobbler> then i can compare to whatever fdisk will want to do
2747 [23:40:56] <JPT> Take all the time you need.
2748 [23:41:24] <linuxcobbler> lol just tried to put my memory card into memory reader and i ejected the whole reader :(
2749 [23:41:35] <linuxcobbler> been years since i tried to use it
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2751 [23:42:05] <JPT> Just a thought: In order to avoid issues, it's probably a good idea to mount that filesystem in read only mode
2752 [23:42:28] <linuxcobbler> why would i mount it?
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2755 [23:43:21] <linuxcobbler> it's not mounted atm... i'm on a live usb... nothing from that hard disk is mounted
2756 [23:43:27] <JPT> Oh - i misread that. I thought you were trying to recover data now.
2757 [23:43:42] <linuxcobbler> yes, but from a usb drive
2758 [23:43:53] <JPT> Okay^^
2759 [23:43:58] <linuxcobbler> sorry, confusing i know... i may have saved logs to usb drive
2760 [23:44:01] <linuxcobbler> :D
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2768 [23:46:15] <linuxcobbler> JPT: i think i have to whole log of the partition manager!
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2771 [23:46:51] <JPT> That's nice - this way you can try to figure out what went wrong
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2783 [23:52:21] <linuxcobbler> JPT: ok, so initial (pre-shrink) e2fsck was successful, partition resize & set geometry was successful, then e2fsck gave errors
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2786 [23:53:10] <linuxcobbler> JPT: esize file system on partition ‘/dev/sda2’ to 1498429440 sectors: Success <--- sector size is what fdisk now shows
2787 [23:53:54] <JPT> Okay. Resizing a partition is usually easy - just changing one or two numbers in the MBR or GPT
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2793 [23:55:05] <JPT> I expected the partition manager to do the shrinking "from the inside to the outside". As in: Shrink the filesystem first, then shrink the luks container, then shrink the partition.
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2796 [23:55:37] <JPT> Without the luks container, it also works the other way around. With the luks container, i am not sure.
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