• 0[00:00:03] <coruja> dpkg, tell RCracer about frankendebian
• 1[00:00:08] <Ouroboros> jim: why do you need to set it?
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• 4[00:00:22] <jim> RCracer, you can't use sid -binary- packages in stable, but you can compile them from source
• 5[00:00:39] <annadane> replaced-url
• 6[00:00:48] <coruja> dpkg, tell RCracer about backports
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• 8[00:00:56] <jim> Ouroboros, it needs to be set to be the ESP
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• 10[00:01:18] <Ouroboros> jim: you can certainly run fdisk from the installer shell, at the right point in the install process, but i don't know whether this is necessary in your case
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• 12[00:01:43] <Ouroboros> e.g. after you do 'write changes to disk'
• 13[00:02:25] <jim> well the ESP is mounted in the right place, I dunno if it will write the type code or not (needs that type code to boot)
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• 15[00:02:49] <Ouroboros> i don't know anything about esp, but i would assume that it would be correct by default
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• 17[00:02:58] <Ouroboros> if not, you can boot the installer again and change it
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• 33[00:09:19] <Ouroboros> jim: note that you need to get several screens into the install process before drives are discovered and certain tools are made available
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• 38[00:14:55] <michael2> can someone explain what the debian xinitrc wiki: replaced-url
• 39[00:15:00] <michael2> "Note that ~/.xinitrc is only for configuring the initialization of xinit. If you want the script to be called when ever an X Session is started, then you should instead use ~/.xsession."
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• 43[00:16:26] <michael2> whats the difference between xinit's startup config and the starting of an X session? isn't that exactly what xinit/startx does, start an X session?
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• 46[00:19:40] <Ouroboros> perhaps xinit runs once and does startx several times
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• 51[00:21:06] <jim> Ouroboros, ok... he's already in the partitioner
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• 72[00:29:09] <Ouroboros> jim: i suggest that you let the installer partition manager do its thing, then just check the partition type using 'fdisk -l' from the installer shell
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• 74[00:29:27] <Ouroboros> (after doing 'write changes to disk')
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• 76[00:29:40] <Ouroboros> if wrong, you can change it at that point
• 77[00:30:20] <Ouroboros> (i am assuming netinst text install)
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• 86[00:36:48] <ryouma> michael2 all yo need is xinit. but a lot of people use a gui display manager, which is maybe what you mean. xinit will give you a login prompt.
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• 89[00:37:25] <ryouma> # .xinitrc could be called .xsession # that is called by startx xinit display managers # .xinitrc is called by only startx xinit
• 90[00:37:42] <lelk> assuming they have a login manager, right ryouma ?
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• 92[00:37:47] <ryouma> i use startx
• 93[00:38:29] <ryouma> lelk: login manager? without that you'd just get a shell upon boot? you /could/ do that. kernel can do init=/bin/sh
• 94[00:39:43] <lelk> i believe GUI and bash login managers differ with the first not being pre-installed in stripped installs, if i'm not mistaken ryouma
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• 97[00:40:59] <ryouma> do you mean tasksel?
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• 99[00:41:48] <ryouma> a rule of thumb for computers is: use the defaults. if you know it's better not to use the defaults, don't (that's me, with not using a fancy but inaccessible and brittle gui login that is troublesome to configure). and if you're using emacs and know what you are doing, go ahead and change the defaults.
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• 103[00:43:07] <ntd> ryouma, so, stick with windows 10 defaults then? :P
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• 105[00:43:24] <lelk> yeah ryouma , replaced-url
• 106[00:43:37] <lelk> "Since an X display manager is a graphical user interface for login, some people use the terms display manager and login manager synonymously"
• 107[00:43:50] <ryouma> ntd: i have no idea!
• 108[00:44:13] <ryouma> x sessions are i think a gui login kind of thing. possibly integrated with desktops. if you use a wm and startx, you don't have the concept of x sessiosn i think.
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• 110[00:44:40] <lelk> well i am running a headless console-only setup and i sure do login :)
• 111[00:44:46] <lelk> heh
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• 113[00:45:47] <Ouroboros> ryouma: so using emacs is a dependency? :P
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• 115[00:46:10] <ryouma> i didn't say that. but yes, it is not a computer if it does not run emacs.
• 116[00:46:21] <Ouroboros> mhm
• 117[00:46:39] <lelk> maybe lisp, emacs is definitely not a must ;)
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• 134[00:53:31] <RCracer> does debian have a native irc client?
• 135[00:53:42] <farruinn> native?
• 136[00:53:49] <RCracer> like preinstalled
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• 138[00:54:29] <RCracer> im about to install for my first time
• 139[00:54:39] <farruinn> Maybe certain desktops include one? You can just use what you want though.
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• 141[00:54:58] <RCracer> ok ill just go through the browser
• 142[00:55:06] <jeffmr> xchat is nice
• 143[00:56:11] <lelk> just use irssi RCracer
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• 147[00:58:29] <RCracer> thanks wish me luck ;)
• 148[00:58:51] <lelk> only if irssi RCracer :)
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• 151[00:59:56] <Ouroboros> lelk: i think you meant 'scheme'
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• 155[01:02:19] <lelk> could you elaborate Ouroboros ? i have trouble looking that up
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• 164[01:05:12] <ryouma> scheme is a lisp family language
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• 166[01:06:19] <lelk> oh, welp, Common Lisp and Clojure
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• 169[01:07:42] <MrNato_home> I have a requirement for Deb 8 to run some software, tried installing it on a newer Lenovo x3650 M5 and installer locks up, got it to work with acpi=off and thought everything was good, until we started restoring a 20gb postgres db. Was taking a huge amount of time so we checked and found this dual xeon is only showing as one core.. Deb 9 installs fine, is it "safe" to use a newer kernel from
• 170[01:07:42] <MrNato_home> backports on Deb 8 for production use?
• 171[01:07:46] <lelk> but who cares about the names when you define your own language on top of any of these so you solve your problemset
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• 173[01:09:46] <Ouroboros> accurate
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• 195[01:23:29] <michael2> ryouma: so are you saying xinit is sourced by startx/xinit but ~/.xsession is sourced by GUI login managers ?
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• 200[01:27:12] <lelk> please don't confuse this replaced-url
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• 202[01:27:34] <lelk> :')
• 203[01:28:22] <ryouma> michael2: close
• 204[01:28:29] <ryouma> i am saying what i said
• 205[01:28:33] <somiaj> michael2: depends on the system. .xsession is sorced by startx and the 'default' xsession in dms in debian.
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• 207[01:29:11] <somiaj> !xsession
• 208[01:29:11] <dpkg> Debian uses ~/.xsession for startx(1) as well as *most* Display Manager logins. See replaced-url
• 209[01:29:17] <michael2> what is "dms"?
• 210[01:29:28] <somiaj> dm's
• 211[01:29:43] <michael2> desktop managers?
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• 214[01:29:48] <somiaj> display managers
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• 221[01:32:35] <ryouma> i've modified my blurb to say that it is most
• 222[01:33:42] <michael2> I think the whole missing piece here is the xsession manager relates to Xsessions which are a thing I haven't ever, ever heard any one actually use
• 223[01:34:00] <michael2> so that seems the root of the problem
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• 255[01:48:27] <jim> Ouroboros, thanks... and, I figured out what I did wrong, fixed
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• 269[01:54:06] <Ouroboros> k
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• 272[01:54:33] <michael2> does anyone know how to dump/print gpg-agents config? specifically how long gpg-agent is remembering decrypted private key for?
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• 284[02:01:42] <bites> where is the quilt howto now that alioth is gone? replaced-url
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• 290[02:09:01] <bites> uff, this looks like it, just not compiled. replaced-url
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• 295[02:11:00] <michael2> ah, looking at /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99x11-common_start the final command does `exec $STARTUP. so If I understand correctly if you put your final `exec window manager ' in ~/.xinitc - your window manager may not get exec'ed at all?
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• 310[02:18:11] <mnuhmnuh> michael2: i recently learned that lightdm ignores .xsession et al. for trad. behavior use xdm, wdm, ...
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• 315[02:21:11] <michael2> mnuhmnuh: do you know what gets sourced/exec'ed when lightdm is the DM?
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• 325[02:27:34] <mnuhmnuh> michael2: i know mate (& etc) remembers some stuff automagically, but even lightdm-->fluxbox isn't trad. *nix .xsession - doesn't use it.
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• 330[02:32:31] <michael2> mnuhmnuh: I think thats why the debian xinit wiki and the debian version of `man startx' recommend using ~/.xsession for starting your X11 session, because its read by a greater number of login managers, both startx/xinit and the GUI ones (man startx specifically references xdm - which I dont think is commonly used anymore)
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• 333[02:33:25] <michael2> whereas the GUI login managers possibly skip .xinitrc?
• 334[02:33:30] <somiaj> michael2: it depends on the Xsession you use (Such as the de you pick), did you read that wiki link about Xsession?
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• 336[02:35:02] <michael2> somiaj: I have the debian Xsession wiki in front of me right now. please feel free to quiz me on any part of it :)
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• 343[02:37:24] <somiaj> the system wide confguation at the top is a good place to start, but note the actually xsession run depends on which xsession is chosen by the dm
• 344[02:38:21] <capn> I'm using lightdm and i3wm. did an experiment the other day to see which files get loaded for environment variables.
• 345[02:38:33] <capn> from first to last.. meaning last overwrites the first
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• 348[02:39:20] <capn> 1. /etc/environment 2./etc/security/pam_env.conf 3. ~/.xsessionrc 4. /etc/bashrc 5. ~/.bashrc
• 349[02:39:27] <capn> 4 is the wrong name
• 350[02:39:47] <capn> it's bash.bashrc
• 351[02:40:03] <bites> ohh, it's still hosted here: replaced-url
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• 357[02:42:33] <somiaj> michael2: also replaced-url
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• 362[02:43:46] <ryouma> huh, is 3 the right name?
• 363[02:43:56] <ryouma> i thuoght uit was withuot rc
• 364[02:44:55] <ryouma> huh no profile?
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• 366[02:45:10] <capn> yes
• 367[02:45:14] <capn> had to create it
• 368[02:45:14] <themill> bites: replaced-url
• 369[02:45:28] <capn> and no, ~/.bash_profile is not loaded
• 370[02:45:35] <ryouma> i mean /etc/profile and .bash_profile are not on the list
• 371[02:45:43] <capn> ~/.profile is ignored too
• 372[02:45:43] <apt> capn: okay
• 373[02:45:49] <ryouma> huh
• 374[02:46:02] <ryouma> that's werid
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• 376[02:46:18] <ryouma> i wonder what the sequence is for my primitive startx
• 377[02:46:21] <ryouma> and fluxbox
• 378[02:46:55] <somiaj> ryouma: might be with how the displaymanager launches the shell.
• 379[02:47:14] <capn> not sure. I just made a variable like export SET_IN_BASHRC=yes then checked
• 380[02:47:49] <capn> then I made the same variable in each file and deleted them one by one to find the order
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• 383[02:48:10] <capn> not quite the most scientific approach but I think I got it figured out haha
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• 385[02:49:18] <michael2> for me, the way X is started is systemd starts the system in "graphical target" but when it hits the graphical target unit file - it doesn't exist - then some systemd process - maybe logind? starts /bin/login which gives me a getty prompt - I login to that whihc give me a login shell - from that I run startx - which exec's xinit, which forks xorg server - through /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc (and I assume at this
• 386[02:49:20] <michael2> point reads /etc/X11/Xorg.conf scripts) - then (on the original xinit process) executes /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc which sources all the scripts in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ which finally runs your chosen user config X start file which for me is ~/.xsession (but this is dependent on your login/display manager) - the final command in ~/.xsession is to exec the window manager
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• 388[02:50:24] <capn> also /etc/profile just sources the /etc/profile.d directory so it's not recommended to edit that file
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• 390[02:50:53] <capn> i made an entry in there too and it didn't get loaded on login on local machine
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• 392[02:51:12] <capn> it did, however get loaded when I ssh'd into another machine. I tested that too
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• 397[02:52:35] <somiaj> well that is due to how bash treats login shells vs interactive shells
• 398[02:52:40] <capn> yes
• 399[02:53:04] <capn> I was trying to learn the difference and where I should really store certain environment variables
• 400[02:53:25] <somiaj> or just be lazy like me and source one from the other
• 401[02:53:38] <somiaj> I don't really have a reason my login shells need different enviorment than my interactive ones
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• 404[02:54:22] <michael2> prob the safest place is /etc/<shell>/env - it always gets sourced on every shell start whether its login/non-login interactive/scripting shell etc
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• 406[02:54:39] <capn> I was getting curious because I edited the custom PS1 from a site that changed the hostname's colors depending on certain criteria
• 407[02:54:41] <Ouroboros> somiaj: it already does that by default
• 408[02:54:54] <capn> and it wasn't working because I was sourcing my ~/.bashrc
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• 410[02:55:11] <capn> instead of a global one I guess
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• 412[02:55:49] <somiaj> Ouroboros: I don't really know what modern defaults are, because my $HOME dir has been around since 2000ish, and so I have to manually update things.
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• 416[02:56:38] <Ouroboros> somiaj: currently profile sources .bashrc, so i just put everything in the latter
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• 418[02:57:22] <capn> what I've found is that the /etc/bash.bashrc, /etc/environment, and the /etc/security/pam_env.conf all get sourced
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• 420[02:57:28] <capn> on this setup
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• 441[03:06:14] <maxcell_> xD, i edit the /etc/fstab to add an partition with the following option: uuid=1000. When my system boot it says this option doesn't exist and my console is LOCKED so i can't re-edit because i don't have a Console. What should i do???
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• 443[03:07:14] <maxcell_> I've tried to boot in recovery mode but the same message apears during boot and i get locked from my own system
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• 445[03:07:52] <mefistofeles> hello
• 446[03:08:16] <mefistofeles> for some reason, using a static network configuration via /etc/network/interface I have to manually run systemctl restart networking for network to work/setup
• 447[03:08:18] <maxcell_> appreciate any help
• 448[03:08:21] <mefistofeles> any ideas why is this happening?
• 449[03:09:03] <somiaj> mefistofeles: 1000 deson't sound like a uuid
• 450[03:09:12] <mefistofeles> somiaj: sorry?
• 451[03:09:17] <somiaj> maxcell_: ^^
• 452[03:09:18] <maxcell_> somiaj, hi
• 453[03:09:21] <somiaj> mefistofeles: bad tab completion
• 454[03:09:24] <mefistofeles> npp
• 455[03:09:27] <Ouroboros> it's not, it's more of a uid
• 456[03:09:28] <somiaj> maxcell_: you'll have to boot up into a live system, and fix it
• 457[03:09:32] <maxcell_> somiaj, uuid like account ID
• 458[03:09:38] <Ouroboros> maxcell_: no
• 459[03:09:47] <maxcell_> what is uuid?
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• 461[03:09:53] <somiaj> maxcell_: uuid is not an account id, it is a unique id to identify a file system
• 462[03:10:04] <maxcell_> OH MAN
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• 464[03:10:06] <Ouroboros> maxcell_: why do you want to change it, if you don't know what it is?
• 465[03:10:12] <maxcell_> thats true o mass it up
• 466[03:10:15] <capn> blkid
• 467[03:10:20] <somiaj> mefistofeles: can you share your interfaces file? Also instead of restarting the network interface, just run ifup interface name.
• 468[03:10:23] <maxcell_> how do i fix it?
• 469[03:10:32] <maxcell_> will i have access in livesystem?
• 470[03:10:48] <somiaj> maxcell_: boot from a livecd, and edit the file, and put the correct uuid there, your system wont' work unless you have the partition correctly identified
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• 472[03:11:15] <maxcell_> i have the uuid set i just want to mount it to my regular user be able to write in
• 473[03:11:38] <somiaj> maxcell_: that depends on the actual file system being used. What file system is this partition
• 474[03:11:44] <maxcell_> ext4
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• 480[03:12:36] <maxcell_> its uid=1000 instead of uuid right?
• 481[03:12:55] <somiaj> ext4 has no uid option
• 482[03:13:03] <maxcell_> lol
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• 484[03:13:11] <somiaj> ext4 is a standard unix file system, change permeisions like you would using chmod and chown
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• 486[03:13:21] <maxcell_> oh
• 487[03:13:24] <maxcell_> get it
• 488[03:13:33] <mefistofeles> somiaj: replaced-url
• 489[03:13:40] <maxcell_> doesn't need umask as well?
• 490[03:14:12] <mefistofeles> somiaj: some IPs are filtered, of course
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• 492[03:14:42] <maxcell_> somiaj, thanks man
• 493[03:14:50] <maxcell_> Ouroboros, you 2
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• 498[03:19:01] <somiaj> maxcell_: umask just affects default file permisions (not ownership)
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• 500[03:19:15] <somiaj> mefistofeles: wonder if the networking service is just running a bit to early for your bridge to be brought up.
• 501[03:19:55] <maxcell_> somiaj, yes i would put umask=0127 and chown root.myuser
• 502[03:20:15] <somiaj> mefistofeles: when your system comes up, check systemctl status networking, see if you can figure out why it is failing. Also I wonder if line 12, allow-hotplug en01 is getting in the way.
• 503[03:20:17] <maxcell_> ext4 can read umask?
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• 505[03:20:56] <somiaj> mefistofeles: on my bridge, I don't have my manual device being brought up, and allow-hotplug eno1 may try to bring it up when you boot if it is plugged in, but on my system it is my bridge that brings it up.
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• 507[03:21:00] <Ouroboros> mefistofeles: you got *every* dns in there, eh?
• 508[03:21:21] <somiaj> mefistofeles: and you have resolvconf package installed right?
• 509[03:21:31] <maxcell_> somiaj, i meant umask=0117
• 510[03:21:43] <maxcell_> or 0077 idk
• 511[03:21:46] <maxcell_> ext4 can read umask?
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• 513[03:21:58] <Ouroboros> mefistofeles: what is 127.0.0.1? dnscrypt-proxy?
• 514[03:22:02] <mefistofeles> Ouroboros: :)
• 515[03:22:09] <mefistofeles> Ouroboros: dnsmasq
• 516[03:22:31] <Ouroboros> ah
• 517[03:22:33] <mefistofeles> somiaj: I don't have resolvconf pkg isntalled, didn't need one in old server, but not sure
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• 520[03:23:26] <Ouroboros> mefistofeles: i am looking at all these different new things right now
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• 523[03:24:04] <mefistofeles> somiaj: it may be the hotplug option
• 524[03:24:08] <mefistofeles> I gotta run, sorry
• 525[03:24:12] <mefistofeles> but thanks for the feedback
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• 536[03:28:03] <somiaj> mefistofeles: one doens't really need it, but that dns-nameservers option won't do much without it (openresolv is an alternative)
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• 540[03:28:24] <somiaj> though nothing wrong with manually editing /etc/resolv.conf, you have nothing that would overwrite it in your setup
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• 546[03:30:12] <Ouroboros> the whole resolver system needs a major overhaul
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• 548[03:30:27] <maxcell_> somiaj, when i'm in the live system, i just need to simply mount my system in wherever dir? (my system isn't encrypted)
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• 550[03:31:12] <Guest7296> hi.... got a thinkpad, trying to find out what firmware to install for an rtl something... Ill get you the pciid
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• 552[03:32:49] <dvs> !tell Guest7296 about firmware iso
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• 554[03:33:42] <Guest7296> [10ec:8172]
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• 556[03:33:58] <Guest7296> already got debian installed
• 557[03:34:30] <Ouroboros> there is some sort of pciiid command here
• 558[03:34:38] <dvs> Guest7296, did you add the non-free repos?
• 559[03:34:52] <dvs> ,pciid 10ec:8172
• 560[03:34:53] <judd> [10ec:8172] is 'RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller' from 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with kernel module 'rtl8192se' in stretch. See also replaced-url
• 561[03:35:03] <Guest7296> I can do that now
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• 563[03:35:45] <somiaj> maxcell_: yes, mount the partition, then edit the fstab file
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• 566[03:36:10] <somiaj> Ouroboros: it works just fine in most cases, most issues with it are multiple things fighting over control
• 567[03:36:12] <maxcell_> somiaj, ok thanks bro
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• 569[03:36:25] <somiaj> which is what resolvconf and openresolv provide, the ability to better control it
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• 571[03:36:34] <Ouroboros> somiaj: i just mean that there is a lot of legacy crap from the 1980s
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• 575[03:39:44] <Guest7296> stretch has non-free but stretch-updates doesnt
• 576[03:40:03] <dvs> sure it does
• 577[03:40:26] <Guest7296> not my soyurces, should I add it?
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• 581[03:41:08] <dvs> Guest7296, sure
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• 585[03:42:04] <Guest7296> to install the rtl firmware?
• 586[03:42:22] <Guest7296> [10ec:8172]
• 587[03:42:32] <dvs> Well, you won't need it to install the firmware.
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• 589[03:42:40] <joze> rasta than light fw?
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• 591[03:43:15] <Guest7296> what package should I install?
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• 598[03:44:35] <dvs> Guest7296, firmware-realtek
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• 600[03:45:15] <Guest7296> the wireless sorta works, it disconnects a lot'
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• 603[03:47:39] <Guest7296> ok, how to activate the firmware?
• 604[03:47:59] <dvs> reboot
• 605[03:48:20] <Guest7296> yeah ok... outtahere!
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• 614[03:50:21] <whatsabinki3> hi
• 615[03:50:42] <somiaj> or reload the module
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• 631[04:02:15] <pandas_best_frie> My laptop's HDMI monitor port doesn't work in Debian 9. It does in Windows 10. The Debian bug report system says you must point at a package. Which package should I be submitting a bug report against?
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• 642[04:08:15] <somiaj> pandas_best_frie: what graphics card are you using and what version of debian are you running? And by doesn't work, what have you tried to make it work?
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• 645[04:10:07] <pandas_best_frie> somiaj: Intel HD 4000 integrated. my Debian 9 is completely updated.
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• 647[04:10:53] <somiaj> so what have you done to try to make your hdmi output work? Are you running xorg right now? Can you share the output of 'xrandr -q' at paste.debian.net?
• 648[04:10:55] <pandas_best_frie> somiaj: I tried switching the graphics driver, but then my system booted to black.
• 649[04:11:06] <somiaj> what did you try to switch the graphics driver too?
• 650[04:11:19] <somiaj> you should most likely be using the default modesetting driver and not the intel driver with xorg.
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• 652[04:12:16] <pandas_best_frie> I tried the Nvidia driver, which made my machine freeze
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• 655[04:12:31] <somiaj> well duh, nvidia driver won't work with intel
• 656[04:12:52] <pandas_best_frie> I'm sorry, forgive me, multiple graphics hardwares: Intel HD 4000 integrated and NVIDIA NVS 5200M
• 657[04:13:07] <Ouroboros> oh gawd
• 658[04:13:09] <somiaj> so you have optimus hardware.
• 659[04:13:10] <Ouroboros> sorry
• 660[04:13:33] <somiaj> anyways, this hardware has poor support in linux in general, no bug report is oging to help that. But make sure you look in how to use it
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• 662[04:14:05] <pandas_best_frie> You've tried to help me before somiaj, and I appreciate it a lot and thank you very much. I'm just finally getting around to trying to report it more officially than on IRC.
• 663[04:14:08] <somiaj> though wait, this is much older hardware than I'm use to seeing with optimius
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• 665[04:14:26] <Ouroboros> it may be better to enable one or the other
• 666[04:14:30] <Ouroboros> in the bios
• 667[04:14:48] <somiaj> I don't really know where is the best place to report this. Also since you aren't running the main ustream kernel, unsure how much support you'll get on that hardware.
• 668[04:15:40] <somiaj> I think the issue is more that hardware has poor support in linux in general, and it is partly the linux kernel where the issue is.
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• 672[04:17:18] <pandas_best_frie> I did find an old messageboard post where someone wrote a custom Xorg conf that got a similar setup's HDMI working, that's about the only hope I've found.
• 673[04:17:32] <somiaj> replaced-url
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• 676[04:18:11] <whatsabinki3> recommendation: find a dedicated driver and tutorial made just for debian, and disable the weaker gpu unless it's used
• 677[04:18:20] <whatsabinki3> (in the bios)
• 678[04:18:28] <maxcell_> Hi again, sorry the ask but, when i plug my PS4 controller in the USB and open Steam, it says that i don't have any controller plugged in. But the track-pad of the ps4 controller works, the buttons doesn't. Thanks in advance
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• 681[04:22:45] <annadane> that's probably more a steam question than a debian question
• 682[04:22:52] <annadane> even if you're using steam on debian
• 683[04:23:44] <maxcell_> It works in other distros but, always with buttons placed wrong...
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• 686[04:24:16] <maxcell_> Thanks anyway
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• 689[04:24:54] <whatsabinki3> replaced-url
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• 691[04:25:27] <whatsabinki3> if you spam all the commands and get a virus I'll just change my nick
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• 694[04:28:42] <whatsabinki3> sudo apt install steam... how many games do I have now?
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• 700[04:34:44] <ljc> switching from ubuntu server to debian -_-
• 701[04:35:25] <whatsabinki3> grats
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• 706[04:38:14] <ljc> ty
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• 710[04:40:36] <bb36e> What'd you not like about Ubuntu server (I haven't used it)?
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• 712[04:40:57] <pandas_best_frie> somiaj: replaced-url
• 713[04:42:52] <somiaj> you can keep trying, I personally ahve avoided such hardware due to its poor support in linux
• 714[04:42:53] <ljc> there's too many packages for the default install
• 715[04:43:07] <somiaj> ljc: what do you mean by that? What do you consider the default install?
• 716[04:43:14] <somiaj> ljc: to me the default minimial install is quite sane.
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• 718[04:43:19] <ljc> and something called "cloud-init" is included now
• 719[04:43:37] <somiaj> I have no package called cloud-init on my machine
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• 721[04:44:02] <ljc> well i had to edit /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg to change the hostname
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• 723[04:44:17] <somiaj> note by default the gnome desktop task is selected, I remove that, espically if you are making a server
• 724[04:45:05] <maxcell_> whatsabinki3, thx for the website, i did install xboxdrv but didn't work so i install joystick (apt install joystick) the jstest-gtk found the controller and all the buttons worked fine. He is using /dev/input/js0 but Steam didn't got it. So didn't work inside the game as well. (game launched through steam)
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• 726[04:46:12] <somiaj> ljc: cloud-init seems to be helpful for using a cloud infrastructure, is this the situation you are in?
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• 728[04:47:07] <bb36e> somiaj: did they update the server ISO? I remember hearing that the server install was text only
• 729[04:47:31] <ljc> nah i'm not interested in any provisioning
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• 731[04:47:55] <ljc> bb36e: yea i think they did update the install. it's pretty nice except it doesn't recognise wireless cards
• 732[04:48:15] <somiaj> ljc: then unsure what you installed, as I woudln't call that package default.
• 733[04:48:21] <whatsabinki3> maxcell, oh I hope you get it working
• 734[04:48:56] <maxcell_> whatsabinki3, so do i, just don't know how :)
• 735[04:49:01] <somiaj> ljc: since wheezy debian has removed non-free blobs from the kernel, and almost all wifi devices require non-free firmware. There is an unoffical non-free installer that conatinst that firmware, but debian main offically only supports free software.
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• 737[04:49:12] <somiaj> bb36e: the graphical installer is now deafult, but the text based installer is still avaiable, and what I still use.
• 738[04:49:22] <somiaj> I prefer the text based expert mode myself
• 739[04:49:26] <bb36e> Ah, interestig
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• 741[04:49:36] <ljc> hm i'm not sure then. didn't seem like there was a package selection option
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• 743[04:50:01] <somiaj> ljc: if you have aptitude installed you can run 'aptitude why clound-init'
• 744[04:50:44] <somiaj> and I'm unsure either. At the end of the isntall (if using the netinstall) it gives you a list of tasks you can select, I personally unselect desktop and only select ssh server + standard tasks. And that gives a failry minimial setup.
• 745[04:50:48] <somiaj> !standard
• 746[04:50:48] <dpkg> extra, extra, read all about it, standard task is a "task" that should be installed on all machines during the installer stage. It installs packages that are important, required and standard (i.e. "aptitude install ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant"). Packages in the <essential> set are always installed. Also ask me about <tasksel>.
• 747[04:51:22] <somiaj> basically things in standard are software one would consider key to a fully functional linux enviorment, but still quite minmial in debian.
• 748[04:51:31] <somiaj> most debian packages are optional
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• 752[04:53:37] <somiaj> ljc: what install image did you use?
• 753[04:53:52] <ljc> (sorry just having lunch :) )
• 754[04:53:56] <ljc> 1 sec
• 755[04:54:18] <ljc> replaced-url
• 756[04:54:30] <somiaj> I thought you said you installed debian, that is not debian.
• 757[04:54:48] <somiaj> and ubuntu is not supported here, we don't know what sort of changes or defaults ubuntu uses.
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• 760[04:56:58] <bb36e> I thought we were talking about why ljc switched away from ubuntu
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• 762[04:57:27] <somiaj> I thought that was the case too, but if that was the install image used, they installed ubuntu, not debian
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• 765[04:58:53] <ljc> yep i installed that but now i'm installing debian
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• 767[04:59:19] <somiaj> so was cloud-init on your debian install or not? Or have you not yet installed debian?
• 768[05:00:39] <ljc> nah i haven't installed debian yet, in the process of doing it now
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• 770[05:00:59] <somiaj> you mentioned wireless, are you installing on a system with wireless (but this seems odd for a server)
• 771[05:01:25] <somiaj> well at the end, I would unsleect dekstop enviorment, so you only install a standard system, then use apt to install the software you need on top of that
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• 773[05:01:53] <Ouroboros> somiaj: how is the expert install mode different from the default text install mode?
• 774[05:02:02] <ljc> nah it's just a home laptop, but i preferred the server version since it was more minimal
• 775[05:02:27] <somiaj> Ouroboros: it gives you more options and lets you move through the options in different order. Mostly just gives more control, but over all not that different.
• 776[05:02:49] <Ouroboros> oh well, too late now
• 777[05:02:52] <somiaj> ljc: debian doens't have a server version, but in this case just don't install a desktop. And since using wireless you may want an unffocial install image
• 778[05:02:59] <somiaj> !firmware images
• 779[05:02:59] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See replaced-url
• 780[05:03:09] <somiaj> ljc: that netinstall image will give you access to wireless during the install
• 781[05:03:09] <ljc> no worries :)
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• 783[05:03:33] <ljc> i do have an ethernet link, so just using that to install debian since it's plugging in a cable is easier
• 784[05:03:56] <somiaj> to get wirless working after the install you will need to enable contrib and non-free software, then install the appropriate firmware
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• 787[05:04:41] <ljc> ok
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• 809[05:22:10] <user2231> After updating Xorg and the nvidia binary driver to nvidia-390 startx quits saying it can't load the Nvidia kernel module: replaced-url
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• 811[05:22:33] <user2231> nvidia-detect says 390 should be okay for my GTX 970
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• 825[05:34:20] <annadane> ,kernels
• 826[05:34:21] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.16.0-rc6-686 (4.16~rc6-1~exp1); sid: 4.16.0-2-686 (4.16.16-1); buster: 4.16.0-2-686 (4.16.12-1); stretch-backports: 4.16.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.16.12-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-6-686-pae (4.9.88-1+deb9u1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-6-686-pae (3.16.56-1+deb8u1); wheezy-backports:
• 827[05:34:22] <judd> 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-6-686-pae (3.2.102-1)
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• 829[05:34:57] <annadane> user2231, is that a compiled kernel?
• 830[05:35:20] <annadane> it's not the one from backports
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• 832[05:35:56] <whatsabinki3> how do I start an app in 32 bit mode from the command line?
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• 844[05:40:56] <Tom-_> whatsabinki3, i don't know, i've never thought about it
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• 851[05:45:12] <llimeht> whatsabinki2: what are you actually trying to achieve? (this is not normally something that you can or should do)
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• 855[05:48:10] <user2231> annadane: I'm not sure, I just allow apt to install whatever over my previous nvidia-driver, this update I was left with a lack screen when launching Xorg
• 856[05:48:21] <user2231> black*
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• 860[05:48:53] <annadane> well the debian archive won't just install a compiled kernel, it will either use the main 4.9 one in stable or the latest from backports
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• 863[05:49:22] <puffs> Sup all
• 864[05:49:25] <annadane> what even is linux draco?
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• 866[05:49:36] <victorsch> sup puffs
• 867[05:49:41] <annadane> i don't know if that's what your problem is but it's a weird kernel and it could be causing problems
• 868[05:50:03] <PuFFs> Anyone have a suggestion on a 2 n 1 laptop for debian?
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• 870[05:50:17] <victorsch> as in one that also functions as a tablet?
• 871[05:50:22] <PuFFs> I was looking to get a Dell 5285
• 872[05:50:23] <PuFFs> yes
• 873[05:50:36] <victorsch> haven't heard good things about dells
• 874[05:50:40] <victorsch> whats your budget though?
• 875[05:50:47] <cjbayliss> PuFFs: replaced-url
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• 877[05:51:04] <PuFFs> 700
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• 879[05:51:38] <user2231> annadane: the hostname of the machine
• 880[05:51:40] <annadane> user2231, anyway, one place to look might be .xsession-errors
• 881[05:51:46] <annadane> oh is it the hostname? i'm sorry then
• 882[05:51:59] <annadane> i'm clearly reading things wrong
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• 885[05:53:55] <user2231> annadane: $HOME/.xsession-errors is an empty file
• 886[05:54:09] <PuFFs> cjbayliss: wow 1300 for that.
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• 888[05:54:38] <cjbayliss> PuFFs: eh, it supports 100% free software though I pretty sure
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• 890[05:54:49] <annadane> anyway, i'm sure someone else will know, sorry to not be of help
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• 921[06:18:10] <somiaj> PuFFs: Dell offers laptops built for linux and it will come installed with ubuntu, which means it will most likely work with debian too, if you want to get something that is known to work with linux.
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• 923[06:19:49] <PuFFs> somiaj: Thanks :)
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• 925[06:21:06] <somiaj> though there are lots of other laptop companies that make systems that run well on linux. I usually suggest pick a company/laptop you like and then check its hardware for compadiablity
• 926[06:21:27] <somiaj> I was just pointing out that about Dell's, as it does take some of the research away and you know you are getting someting that works. Unsure fi they have 2-in-1's though
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• 929[06:22:48] <somiaj> PuFFs: replaced-url
• 930[06:23:21] <somiaj> I personally only use dell's cause my work buys them for me, and that is who they contract with. For personal computers, I find one I like, and then research the hardware before making a decision
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• 938[06:30:47] <PuFFs> yeah, i would really like to get one with LTE
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• 949[06:34:00] <PuFFs> I was looking for something similar to replaced-url
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• 961[06:40:51] <somiaj> lenovo usually works well in linux. For that paticular laptop google suggest it mostly works, but someone has trouble with the trackball, maybe an extrnal mouse will help, but they seem to say other thigns work fine
• 962[06:40:59] <somiaj> I'm unsure how well touch screens work in lniux as I don't use them
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• 967[06:43:22] <maxcell_> hi, i'm using this udev rule and it isn't working on Debian. replaced-url
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• 972[06:47:03] <PuFFs> I use Kali on a thumb drive on my gf 7275 Dell and the touch screen wasn't bad.
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• 975[06:47:51] <somiaj> provided your laptop isn't new (I would make sure to buy one that has about 1-2 year old hardware) and you do research on it, I think you'll find you can get something nice that will run debian.
• 976[06:48:01] <somiaj> also avoid nvidia if you don't like non-free drivers
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• 986[06:50:20] <maxcell_> and i'm using nvidia :)
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• 988[06:50:49] <maxcell_> manage to make it work flawlessly without a single tearing when it matters (videos, youtube, etc)
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• 1148[09:18:48] <click> hello i cannot load this youtube on debian can some one help me ?replaced-url
• 1149[09:21:24] <click> no help ?
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• 1151[09:21:45] <somiaj> just that partcular youtube video or any youtube video?
• 1152[09:21:53] <somiaj> and if I click it will I regret it
• 1153[09:22:18] <click> why so ?
• 1154[09:22:46] <somiaj> anyways, do other youtube videos load?
• 1155[09:22:48] <click> just a youtube rede tv
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• 1161[09:25:03] <somiaj> and what doesn't work, could it be a location issue, or check the codecs needed for the video.
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• 1164[09:26:39] <somiaj> fwit, it works here in chromium on debian 9
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• 1167[09:27:05] <somiaj> fwiw
• 1168[09:27:20] <click> cool can we use vnc to see it on your chromium ? i am having problem to see this youtube
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• 1171[09:28:03] <somiaj> there is no need for me to share it works. Again, is this the only video acting up? Are you using firefox-esr or chromium?
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• 1173[09:28:27] <click> i have firefox and chrome yea other vids works well
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• 1180[09:31:23] <annadane> just download youtube-dl and try it with the link
• 1181[09:31:45] <annadane> if youtube hasn't blocked the one in debian stable, may have to do it in virtualenv
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• 1193[09:38:33] <click> annadane thanks
• 1194[09:38:52] <click> it workded i downloaded with replaced-url
• 1195[09:40:09] <annadane> i said youtube-dl, but ok
• 1196[09:40:52] <click> it got hot chicks lures married man and thier wives gets jealous and angry replaced-url
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• 1199[09:41:29] <annadane> yeah no, stop advertising your video
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• 1201[09:42:06] <click> it is not mine tube .i have no tube to share
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• 1207[09:44:21] <somiaj> either way, just stick to support and not what you are watching
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• 1212[09:45:50] <click> ya thats was a support question somiaj and annadane thanks for sorting out
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• 1277[10:28:10] <FightingFalcon> What VPN server shall i install for my VPS? I want to use it to by-pass banned websites in my country...
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• 1286[10:36:05] <JPT> FightingFalcon: If this is just about websites, you can use ssh -D to use it as a socks proxy
• 1287[10:36:09] <JPT> No vpn needed for that
• 1288[10:36:44] <JPT> ssh -D 127.0.0.1:3128 your-vps.example.com, then use 1237.0.0.1:3128 as a socks proxy in your favorite browser
• 1289[10:37:00] <FightingFalcon> I installed squid3 but it wont allow me to connect banned websites
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• 1291[10:37:38] <JPT> If you're still going for a vpn solution, i guess openvpn is a very flexible option
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• 1293[10:37:55] <FightingFalcon> its very hard to install and setup :/
• 1294[10:38:06] <FightingFalcon> and i host 3 web sites in my server. and i dont want to mess it up
• 1295[10:38:13] <FightingFalcon> whats this ssh -d thing?
• 1296[10:38:48] <JPT> ssh is the ssh client from the openssh project (probably the one you have on your linux machine at home)
• 1297[10:39:07] <JPT> -D is the switch to establish a socks proxy on the server you're connecting to
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• 1299[10:39:18] <JPT> You can read more about that in the ssh manpage
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• 1302[10:40:02] <JPT> If you're running windows at home, maybe this may help you: replaced-url
• 1303[10:40:35] <FightingFalcon> Can i use this ssh -d from my chrome and connect to banned sites?
• 1304[10:41:19] <JPT> You run that ssh command from your local shell
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• 1307[10:41:42] <Eightynine> How can I run AppImage? I downloaded it but unable to run.
• 1308[10:41:44] <FightingFalcon> So it wont work for me :(
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• 1311[10:42:25] <JPT> FightingFalcon: I start to believe that you're new to Linux. Are you sure you are ready for the responsibility of managing your own server?
• 1312[10:42:45] <JPT> Perhaps it may be easier to look for a vpn provider instead
• 1313[10:43:36] <FightingFalcon> JPT, i have using this server for 4 years. but im new to vpn
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• 1315[10:44:17] <JPT> Okay. What kind of ssh client do you use?
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• 1318[10:45:12] <JPT> Eightynine: According to their website, you chmod +x that thing and then ./ it
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• 1327[10:46:51] <Eightynine> Thank you. How do you think which will win: AppImage, Snap, Flatpak? In my opinion Flatpak will win because Red Hat pushes it.
• 1328[10:46:53] <FightingFalcon> wait, im setting it
• 1329[10:47:52] <JPT> Eightynine: That's a tough question. I hope that the solution with the best security and update practises wins. :)
• 1330[10:48:06] <JPT> I don't need another electron app style security issue
• 1331[10:48:47] <FightingFalcon> ooo
• 1332[10:48:48] <FightingFalcon> it worked
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• 1334[10:48:52] <Eightynine> I hate Electron too. It's heavy and written in JS.
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• 1336[10:49:13] <JPT> FightingFalcon: So you managed to use the socks proxy way? :)
• 1337[10:49:30] <FightingFalcon> yes, i followed the instructions on the website you told me
• 1338[10:49:55] <JPT> Eightynine: Electron would be way better if it was just a concept that would integrate in a real browser that i can update / get auto updates for
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• 1340[10:50:18] <FightingFalcon> JPT, however my putty should be always on and connected to my host. is this a security risk?=
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• 1343[10:51:37] <JPT> FightingFalcon: Well, if you're surfing the web using that socks proxy, all the http(s) requests go through that established ssh session. But unless someone else takes over your computer and does bad things on your server, you should be fine.
• 1344[10:51:50] <FightingFalcon> thanks
• 1345[10:52:06] <JPT> FightingFalcon: You can reduce the risk by adding a normal user for on the server for only that purpose
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• 1347[10:52:40] <Eightynine> Has Debian a default DE? It was Gnome 3.8 when I tried it first time.
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• 1350[10:53:00] <pingfloyd> depends which tasksel you pick in the installer
• 1351[10:53:03] <FightingFalcon> JPT, yep i will. thanks really a lot
• 1352[10:53:16] <JPT> FightingFalcon: You're welcome. Enjoy your stay :)
• 1353[10:53:27] <pingfloyd> it has one for each of the major DEs
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• 1355[10:54:08] <somiaj> Eightynine: gnome maybe considered default in the sense if you select de but don't choose which one, that is what you get, but debian allows you to install any de of your choice or even a wm among memeory
• 1356[10:54:12] <Eightynine> Please give me advice I need something lighter. Gnome sometimes works fast and sometimes it's slower (but not so slow). How much Cinnamon eats?
• 1357[10:54:33] <JPT> xfce is really lightweight if that's available on debian
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• 1359[10:55:02] <JPT> And it doesn't look too bad. replaced-url
• 1360[10:55:07] <somiaj> lxde is the lighest, many like xfce has a nice middle ground, cinnimon seems to be popular, but will be a bit heaver. some like mate as the older gnome2 setup
• 1361[10:55:31] <somiaj> there are also 10+ wms you can choose from and build your own desktop
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• 1365[11:00:36] <FightingFalcon> JPT, can i install a SOCKS5 proxy server to my host?
• 1366[11:01:31] <JPT> Maybe - but the tricky thing is to make sure that unauthorized people don't find and use it.
• 1367[11:02:08] <FightingFalcon> a good socks5 server?
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• 1371[11:02:59] <JPT> Since i only use such socks5 proxy occasionally, i like to use the ssh way.
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• 1377[11:04:35] <Eightynine> Maybe MATE? XFCE is something from 90-s. But does MATE have something like Whisker? I've heard about Brisk menu. Can I install that?
• 1378[11:05:14] <JPT> Looks like mate is available, too. Just try it out? :)
• 1379[11:05:57] <Eightynine> Is Synaptic created by Debian team?
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• 1381[11:06:34] <JPT> Maybe?
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• 1384[11:07:38] <FightingFalcon> Whats the difference betwen "apt and apt-get"
• 1385[11:08:11] <Eightynine> It should be redesigned just a bit. Please add search bar. Currently one should click Search to search packages.
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• 1393[11:12:55] <Bonn333> Eightynine: Synaptic was originally created by Connectiva
• 1394[11:13:02] <Bonn333> (sorry for my eng)
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• 1397[11:14:05] <Eightynine> I like Gnome's concept but damn it shouldn't be so heavy.
• 1398[11:14:43] <Eightynine> Bonn333: I have some problems with English too.
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• 1403[11:18:17] <FightingFalcon> JPT, i dont know how to thank you...
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• 1469[12:05:49] <c-pin> so i just got buster installed on my laptop, needed a wifi driver. now that im in cli i need to configure wifi but ive been at it for a few hours and i think ive only messed it up
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• 1533[12:53:11] <Eightynine> What's going on? I'm closing tabs in Firefox but it doesn't take less resources after that.
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• 1539[12:56:26] <kasbah> Hi, I created 2 virtual subnets on dev lo, one for ipv4 and the other ipv6. For ipv4, I can bind to any address and listen on port, while the binding fails for ipv6. If I set /proc/sys/net/ipv6/ip_nonlocal_bind to 1, it works for ipv6 as well. Why?
• 1540[12:56:54] <kasbah> I created both virtual subnets with the ip route add local xxxxx/xx dev lo command
• 1541[12:57:11] <kasbah> it should work for both by default I assume
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• 1550[13:03:04] <beersingh> Eightynine: try freeing your cache for RAM hogging.
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• 1553[13:04:45] <Eightynine> Damn Firefox is such a slow shit. It took long to kill WebContent process. It closed it automatically.
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• 1557[13:05:37] <lavenders> i have a file like: -rwxrwxrwx 1 user user 195581 Oct 22 2013 or32-elf-gcc
• 1558[13:05:58] <lavenders> if i do: $ ./or32-elf-gcc it says:bash: ./or32-elf-gcc: No such file or directory
• 1559[13:06:05] <lavenders> how so, it exsits and is exectuable
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• 1563[13:09:00] <annadane> oddly i've never had 'fox speed issues
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• 1565[13:09:09] <annadane> i guess on lower end hardware it may be a concern
• 1566[13:10:13] <beersingh> lavenders: file or32-elf-gcc
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• 1569[13:12:01] <lavenders> or32-elf-gcc: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, not stripped
• 1570[13:12:06] <choice> Hello! I am trying to install sid.
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• 1573[13:12:39] <choice> I am staring at this at the moment: replaced-url
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• 1575[13:12:47] <choice> Shouldnt there be an ISO in there?
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• 1577[13:13:47] <lavenders> beersingh this should run right?
• 1578[13:13:54] <abrotman> choice: no
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• 1581[13:14:42] <choice> abrotman: Then what type of CDROM is it?
• 1582[13:15:16] <abrotman> choice: if you want to install sid, you can use other ISOs and dist-upgrade after the fact
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• 1585[13:16:40] <annadane> if you're not aware already that there is no installer for sid then be careful with it, as sid can break
• 1586[13:17:13] <annadane> less charitable people would say "maybe you shouldn't be using it at all then" but i'll just say keep backups and read replaced-url
• 1587[13:17:39] <choice> abrotman: So I can use any old Debian 9 installation and change the sources to sid?
• 1588[13:17:54] <abrotman> choice: sure, or try Buster and go from there
• 1589[13:18:06] <choice> Like replace "stretch" with "sid" in /etc/apt/sources.list?
• 1590[13:18:13] <annadane> you only need one line for sid
• 1591[13:18:41] <choice> annadane: There are a 6 lines in my sources.list atm.
• 1592[13:18:46] <annadane> deb replaced-url
• 1593[13:18:51] <beersingh> lavenders: it would check if the file exists or not.
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• 1595[13:19:23] <abrotman> well, you might want deb-src also
• 1596[13:19:30] <annadane> indeed, but it's optional
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• 1599[13:19:53] <choice> annadane: non-free would be closed source stuff that comes as a binary blob nobody understands?
• 1600[13:19:59] <annadane> for *testing* that's correct, just replace stable or stretch with testing or buster, but for sid, you should only have one line
• 1601[13:20:12] <annadane> well, anything non-free according to the debian free software guidelines
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• 1603[13:20:22] <annadane> generally things like wifi drivers, microcode etc
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• 1605[13:20:43] <annadane> i'm going to bed though, good luck
• 1606[13:20:45] <choice> I still don't understand. I have 6 lines at the moment. Should I replace 'stretch' with 'sid' in all 6 or not?
• 1607[13:20:51] <choice> annadane: Thanks.
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• 1610[13:21:10] <annadane> no. get rid of all of them except the first one, aka not the security line and stretch-updates
• 1611[13:21:21] <choice> Ok
• 1612[13:21:23] <annadane> or all of them except the first two if you want the deb-src line
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• 1614[13:21:34] <choice> How do I know if I want deb-src?
• 1615[13:21:51] <annadane> if you want to download source packages late
• 1616[13:21:53] <annadane> later
• 1617[13:21:58] <B14CK-SPID3R> Hi, i installed lightdm instead of gdm3 in a debian based distro. Now i have some graphical issues like this: replaced-url
• 1618[13:22:07] <choice> annadane: I have no idea. I dont know what source packages are.
• 1619[13:22:24] <annadane> you probably don't need it, then, until later, and you can add it later if you need something from it later
• 1620[13:22:29] <choice> Ok.
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• 1622[13:22:39] <choice> So now that I only have 1 line with sid - what do I do now?
• 1623[13:22:43] <choice> Some apt command?
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• 1625[13:22:46] <annadane> apt update and then apt dist-upgrade
• 1626[13:22:53] <choice> ok
• 1627[13:22:58] <annadane> but as i said, be careful if you have to ask that. sid is bleeding edge and can break
• 1628[13:23:02] <annadane> don't use it on anything important
• 1629[13:23:15] <choice> annadane: I have more computers then socks. No need to be afraid.
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• 1631[13:24:11] <annadane> and if you need support with it the proper channel is #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
• 1632[13:24:18] <choice> Ok
• 1633[13:24:19] <annadane> ok, good night
• 1634[13:24:29] <choice> Good Night
• 1635[13:24:44] <abrotman> not can, it will
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• 1640[13:26:21] <B14CK-SPID3R> Hi, i installed lightdm instead of gdm3 in a debian based distro. Now i have some graphical issues like this: replaced-url
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• 1648[13:29:31] <choice> Who pays for all the bandwidth used by people udating their debian installs?
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• 1650[13:30:37] <joze> universities
• 1651[13:31:24] <abrotman> choice: The mirror, some are companies, some gov't, some Unis
• 1652[13:31:27] <beersingh> spid3r: it is probably your Desktop environment, not the display manager.
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• 1654[13:31:34] <bites> replaced-url
• 1655[13:31:46] <abrotman> some are organizations that sponsor orgs
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• 1658[13:32:19] <choice> abrotman: Nice
• 1659[13:32:37] <choice> abrotman: And who organizes all that?
• 1660[13:32:39] <abrotman> B14CK-SPID3R: Kali has their own support channel
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• 1662[13:32:48] <abrotman> choice: the people responsible for the mirrors? :)
• 1663[13:33:00] <abrotman> dpkg: kali
• 1664[13:33:00] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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• 1666[13:33:08] <choice> abrotman: But then how do they get on the list bites linked to?
• 1667[13:33:21] <abrotman> choice: you apply to be a mirror
• 1668[13:33:25] <bites> everyone can sponsor a mirror then submit it to the list.
• 1669[13:33:28] <choice> abrotman: Apply to whom?
• 1670[13:33:47] <bitlan> hi, i have a newbie quiestion... how i can calcule diff bettween two dates in this format (Jun 22 14:10:24 - Jun 22 14:11:53)
• 1671[13:33:50] <bitlan> ?
• 1672[13:33:54] <abrotman> replaced-url
• 1673[13:34:09] <B14CK-SPID3R> Abortman, i ask it there, nobody answered me
• 1674[13:34:35] <choice> abrotman: "Submissions can be done using our simple web form" - I mean: Who reads that form?
• 1675[13:34:44] <abrotman> B14CK-SPID3R: okay, we still can't help you. This is a channel for Debian, not Kali
• 1676[13:34:59] <abrotman> choice: the people in Debian who approve mirrors .. I don't know who those people are .. Why do you ask?
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• 1678[13:35:21] <choice> abrotman: I wonder who pays those people 'in Debian'.
• 1679[13:35:27] <abrotman> no one
• 1680[13:35:29] <abrotman> volunteers
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• 1684[13:36:09] <choice> abrotman: Aha. Thank the universe that there are people who do such things.
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• 1686[13:36:49] <abrotman> choice: FWIW, most people in these support channels helping you are also volunteers
• 1687[13:37:10] <choice> bitlan: I think there is no easy way if you want to do it in bash alone. Here are some ways to do it: replaced-url
• 1688[13:37:15] <choice> abrotman: Cool.
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• 1691[13:41:23] <choice> bitlan: I would do it like this: php -r 'echo date_diff(date_create("Jun 22 14:10:24"),date_create("Jun 22 14:11:53"))->format("%Y-%m%d %H:%M:%S");';
• 1692[13:41:43] <choice> bitlan: That takes advantage of PHPs date functions. Most other languages will have something similar.
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• 1746[14:27:11] <akuw> Hi
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• 1750[14:29:15] <choice> akuw: Hi
• 1751[14:29:47] <choice> So I did 'apt dist-upgrade' and it ended in this:
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• 1753[14:30:02] <choice> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
• 1754[14:30:05] <choice> Is that bad?
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• 1759[14:33:48] <akuw> How can up my wifi card?
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• 1761[14:33:57] <akuw> Using debian 9
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• 1763[14:34:06] <choice> akuw: Update your card?
• 1764[14:34:14] <akuw> No
• 1765[14:34:31] <akuw> 2 days ago was working
• 1766[14:34:45] <akuw> No changes in config file
• 1767[14:35:09] <akuw> Wlp3s0
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• 1779[14:42:33] <akuw> ?
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• 1781[14:43:04] <choice> akuw: I don't know. Are you using a desktop environment?
• 1782[14:43:12] <akuw> Yes
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• 1784[14:43:15] <akuw> Lxde
• 1785[14:43:32] <akuw> I think i uninstall something by error
• 1786[14:43:56] <choice> How?
• 1787[14:44:03] <akuw> Because desktop software for wifi is not there
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• 1794[14:51:48] <mrxrobot> akuw:Hello, you can install networkmanager or wicd
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• 1804[14:58:44] <mrxrobot> akuw: to install network-manager use the command:: apt install network-manager
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• 1833[15:11:47] <xunien> o/ can someone give me some pointers on systemd-nspawn bind permissions ?
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• 1836[15:12:47] <xunien> I got one simple debian machine with a binded dir, but my machine has only read-only permissions
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• 1845[15:14:42] <xunien> replaced-url
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• 1875[15:25:19] <dutchfish> xunien, --bind=/etc/FooBar,,root,root | or use setfacl if appropriate.
• 1876[15:26:05] <dutchfish> xunien, the workaround is in your link
• 1877[15:27:46] <xunien> mmh i thought it was a proprosed fix..
• 1878[15:28:08] <dutchfish> xunien, take a closer look at the date.
• 1879[15:28:25] <dutchfish> xunien, (not tested it on Stable)
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• 1883[15:29:45] <xunien> ok i will give a try, or fallback with acl
• 1884[15:29:58] <dutchfish> gl
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• 1886[15:30:15] <xunien> thks!
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• 1888[15:31:00] <OS-3859> !phoenix
• 1889[15:31:00] <dpkg> From 2006 to 2016, Mozilla Firefox was known as "Iceweasel" in Debian because Mozilla would not permit Debian to use the Firefox name. Firefox packages are now available for both jessie and sid; Firefox in Debian <stable> follows the Extended Support Release (ESR) branch. For the latest versions, ask me about <mozilla.debian.net>.
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• 1904[15:40:08] <user2231> After updating Xorg and the nvidia binary driver to nvidia-390 startx quits saying it can't load the Nvidia kernel module: replaced-url
• 1905[15:40:14] <user2231> nvidia-detect says 390 should be okay for my GTX 970
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• 1907[15:41:13] <user2231> Does 390 absolutely require kernel 4.9 or?
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• 1912[15:45:30] <xunien> dutchfish: it's fine with a simple chown, thks!
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• 1992[16:34:28] <Escaneo> hi
• 1993[16:35:07] <Escaneo> i am using debian 9, i need to bring my enp9s0 up
• 1994[16:35:28] <somiaj> Escaneo: what have you tried? Are you using the interfaces file or some tool like network-manager?
• 1995[16:35:36] <Escaneo> when i use ip add i can see enp9s0
• 1996[16:36:12] <Escaneo> last time i uninstalled python but when did i guess this remove something related to network
• 1997[16:36:14] <somiaj> sure, but now you need a method to configure it. If in a desktop, many prefer network-manager for its gui tools. Otherwise you can configure it using the debian /etc/network/interfaces file
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• 2001[16:38:19] <abrotman> uninstalled python?
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• 2003[16:42:04] <Escaneo> i can up wenp9s0
• 2004[16:42:11] <Escaneo> now installing network-manager
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• 2030[16:57:09] <[sr]> howdy
• 2031[16:57:27] <[sr]> whats's the best for let's encrypt configuration, use certbot or apache's md module?
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• 2035[16:58:58] <user2231> [sr]: youre better off asking in #apache or #letsencrypt
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• 2038[16:59:39] <gartral> [sr]: the short answer? what works best for you, but yea, ask in #letsencrypt and #apache
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• 2048[17:02:52] <[sr]> ok guys, i'll :P
• 2049[17:03:14] <[sr]> i preffer to use the most builtin option, no addon's or 3rd party stuff
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• 2053[17:06:43] <phillip> Hiya guts! I#m having trouble getting sound to work for users on a newly updated stable->unstable debian installation. I can play an ogg with ogg123 as root but sound in gnome for users accounts just reports a "Dummy device" as the sound card in GNOME settings.
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• 2056[17:06:54] <phillip> I have added the user to the audio group and logged back in too
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• 2060[17:07:35] <phillip> When I load alsamixer as a user, it reports the sound card and chip as PulseAudio
• 2061[17:07:45] <phillip> Anyone got any ideas?
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• 2067[17:08:36] <somiaj> phillip: so use pulseaudio, pavucontrol is a good tool configure pulse
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• 2071[17:10:04] <phillip> somiaj, sorry mate, only a "Dummy Output" device reported in pavucontrol :(
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• 2074[17:10:17] <somiaj> are you running testing/unstable?
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• 2078[17:10:30] <phillip> somiaj, yep, just updated it to unstable
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• 2080[17:10:44] <phillip> everything else works perfectly
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• 2084[17:11:15] <somiaj> well two things, first 1) support for debian testing is #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, 2) in this case it is most likely a bug with timidity you hit, disable/stop the timidity service and you should be fine.
• 2085[17:11:39] <phillip> ok
• 2086[17:12:33] <phillip> Yo yo yo, working sound. Thanks somiaj
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• 2192[18:11:42] <gartral> x42: no.
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• 2228[18:26:25] <Ultima> Hello, I am having issues running multiple units as the same uid. Is there a way to allow this to occur?
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• 2291[19:15:59] <rakor> Hey there. I want to upgrade an installation from stable to testing. Should I install it from scratch or can I do an upgrade?
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• 2300[19:19:11] <hicks> updgrade. replaced-url
• 2301[19:19:15] <hicks> *upgrade
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• 2306[19:21:38] <gartral> Ultima: What?
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• 2310[19:24:58] <Ultima> I have to unit files, a.service and b.service both with User=foo Group=foo. When I start both services I get an error with the second unit starting. This is in a lxc container. I believe it has something to do with using the same uid because when I change it it will start.
• 2311[19:25:06] <Ultima> two*
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• 2314[19:26:57] <Ultima> I'm trying to understand what is causing this and options I have for dealing with it. As well as the same for the system that is preventing this.
• 2315[19:27:03] <Ultima> name*
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• 2320[19:28:46] <blackflow> Ultima: what error?
• 2321[19:29:49] <Ultima> I can't recall the exact error, give me a few and Ill reproduce.
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• 2324[19:32:38] <somiaj> I don't see why multiple services with the same uid is the problem unless there is some issue with permsisions for that uid
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• 2326[19:35:04] <Ultima> Failed to reset devices.list: Operation not permitted
• 2327[19:35:13] <Ultima> Failed to set invocation ID on control group
• 2328[19:35:59] <blackflow> sounds like something specific to that service configuration
• 2329[19:36:39] <Ultima> This service for example is avahi-daemon, if I have multiple containers running that on the same uid in different containers I get these errors.
• 2330[19:38:21] <rakor> Thanks hicks
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• 2334[19:40:01] <Ultima> I'm not sure, I have ran into this issue on multiple services. I was thinking it maybe a container option of some sort, but I'm not up to date with all the new features linux provides.
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• 2338[19:43:17] <magyar> hi, how can I fix burning CD permissions in stable?
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• 2345[19:48:26] <sn00p> hello, I have been trying to install debian for quite some time now, every time I do a fresh install after reboot it boots up and it hangs hat /dev/sdb1 and it says clean
• 2346[19:48:45] <unknown2> but it boots?
• 2347[19:48:52] <sn00p> it doesn't boot
• 2348[19:48:54] <sn00p> at all
• 2349[19:48:56] <sn00p> it just hangs at that
• 2350[19:49:02] <sn00p> like its doing an fsck
• 2351[19:49:04] <sn00p> or something
• 2352[19:49:28] <unknown2> pffff
• 2353[19:50:11] <unknown2> Have you created another partition for it?
• 2354[19:50:21] <sn00p> its on a different drive
• 2355[19:50:40] <unknown2> ok
• 2356[19:50:46] <sn00p> it just hangs there
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• 2358[19:51:13] <unknown2> I don't know...
• 2359[19:52:10] <unknown2> Try creating it in the same drive and cloning it...
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• 2362[19:54:47] <jim> what kind of machine is it? laptop? desktop? and, what purpose does it serve?
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• 2365[19:55:19] <jim> (or what purpose will it serve once it works :)
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• 2367[19:55:52] <unknown2> I think the installation is better at a desktop computer...
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• 2369[19:56:50] <jim> unknown2, I dunno, my laptop works fine now (but it resisted me a bit during install)
• 2370[19:57:27] <unknown2> jim, me too! first, it doesn't like the USB installation
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• 2373[19:58:34] <somiaj> I always like to double check, how did you create the usb thumb drive you are using
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• 2378[20:00:49] <jim> sn00p, heya... I think somiaj's question is for you
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• 2404[20:09:26] <bmomjian> I am upgrading to Debian 8.11. I assume it is not going to break my NFS server like 8.10 did.
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• 2406[20:09:55] <somiaj> how did 8.10 break the nfs server?
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• 2408[20:10:27] <somiaj> pay attention to what upgrades, but debian does try to not have version and abi/api changes for this reason. But this is not always possible.
• 2409[20:10:39] <bmomjian> there something missing in the kernel
• 2410[20:10:41] <somiaj> espically when security cannot be easily backported to the stable version
• 2411[20:10:55] <somiaj> ahh yea, sometimes regressions happen, the old kernel is left around just in case stuff like that happens.
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• 2414[20:11:13] <somiaj> It shouldn't, but not every use case can be tested before the upgrade is made live
• 2415[20:12:19] <bmomjian> Unfortunately I don't have the kernel error message handy.
• 2416[20:12:29] <bmomjian> I ended up going with an older kernel which fixed it.
• 2417[20:12:43] <bmomjian> OK, here goes the reboot. ;-)
• 2418[20:13:54] <somiaj> anyways, if you do experience any regressions, check the bts and be sure to report them
• 2419[20:14:27] <somiaj> debian hopes that such thigns don't happen, but it there is a non zero chance (though low) some things do not work as planned
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• 2427[20:19:15] <bmomjian> Worked! Thanks
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• 2429[20:20:42] <abramov> Ultima: Are your containers running in unprivileged mode? Some operations invoked by systemd units my require more permission (eg. modify value in /proc filesystem, cgroups and many more).
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• 2432[20:22:06] <bmomjian> FYI, I now remember the details of my 8.10 problem. NFS wasn't the problem. The problem is that the server would not boot. Here is the screenshot from December with 8.10: replaced-url
• 2433[20:22:21] <bmomjian> Very scary considering I was in Tokyo and my server was in Philadelphia.
• 2434[20:22:31] <bmomjian> My son did the legwork to get it back up.
• 2435[20:22:40] <somiaj> bmomjian: yea, there was a bad kernel upgrade there in jessie, causing a lot of machines to not boot
• 2436[20:23:05] <somiaj> bmomjian: this is not common in debian stable, and the first time I've seen such a wide spread regression issue in many many years of helping people with stable
• 2437[20:23:05] <bmomjian> It has been so clean that I never considered waiting until I got home, in an other two weeks.
• 2438[20:23:12] <bmomjian> People here were helpful.
• 2439[20:23:44] <somiaj> there should usually be an old kernel floating around, though may have some security issues, can get you back up.
• 2440[20:24:11] <somiaj> debian was fairly quick about figuring out the problem, there were some boot parmaeter work arounds and then fixing it, but I agree, it was a pain, but not a normal occurance
• 2441[20:24:27] <bmomjian> Yes, I am looking over the old Google Hangouts logs. There are a lot of "yikes" in there.
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• 2444[20:26:05] <bmomjian> So I had done a pkg update purge so he grabbed the kernel off the backup drive, but then NFS didn't work and eventually that was fixed.
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• 2446[20:26:31] <bmomjian> so lots of excitement then, but now it was clean
• 2447[20:26:52] <bmomjian> Time to move to 9, probably in August when I am home for a while
• 2448[20:26:57] <somiaj> yea, I recall that point release, again unstandard.
• 2449[20:27:18] <somiaj> depends on your use case, the lts team does allow a much longer release period for servers.
• 2450[20:27:21] <somiaj> !jessie lts
• 2451[20:27:29] <somiaj> !lts
• 2452[20:27:29] <dpkg> Debian Long Term Support (LTS) is a project to extend the lifetime of all Debian stable releases to (at least) 5 years. Debian LTS is not handled by the Debian security team, but by a separate group of volunteers and companies. Ask me about <jessie-lts> and see replaced-url
• 2453[20:27:42] <somiaj> !jessie-lts
• 2454[20:27:42] <dpkg> Security support for Debian 8 "jessie" from the Debian Security Team will end 2018-05-17. The amd64, i386, armel and armhf architectures will receive additional long term support (<LTS>) via <jessie/updates> until around 2020 for a 5 year lifetime total. See replaced-url
• 2455[20:28:16] <bmomjian> Oh, I was not aware amd64 would be continued
• 2456[20:28:24] <somiaj> anyways, I'm surpriesed you hadn't upgraded to 8.11 yet, jessie won't be getting any more point releases (Afiak), at least I dont' think that works with lts support
• 2457[20:28:59] <somiaj> yea, there are some sponsors who are funding debian devs to help provide secuirty support on the server side software of amd64, i386, and I think arm as well
• 2458[20:29:19] <bmomjian> The email doesn't mention that, "The Debian project is pleased to announce the eleventh (and final) update of its oldstable distribution Debian 8 (codename "jessie").
• 2459[20:29:22] <somiaj> how the money and time spend is well documented.
• 2460[20:29:27] <bmomjian> I just got the email today about the upgrade.
• 2461[20:29:29] <somiaj> what date was that email?
• 2462[20:29:37] <bmomjian> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 13:53:17 -0400
• 2463[20:29:51] <bmomjian> June 23rd, 2018 replaced-url
• 2464[20:29:54] <somiaj> ahh, I guess it is the final release they are doing before handing it off to lts I suspect
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• 2466[20:30:42] <somiaj> ahh it even mentions lts in that new article
• 2467[20:30:42] <bmomjian> I see it now, "Users wishing to continue to receive security support should upgrade to Debian 9, or see replaced-url
• 2468[20:31:07] <bmomjian> Anyway, I might as well just upgrade. There is nothing critical on this server that needs the old software.
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• 2497[20:57:46] <ezname> Hello, i can't update
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• 2499[20:58:12] <ezname> oh wait, now it begins, took some time
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• 2511[21:04:29] <hays> when is 'buster' planned approximately fort stable
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• 2513[21:04:36] <fasdfd> does anyone know when is firefox 60esr going to land in stable?
• 2514[21:04:54] <fasdfd> in the following week? in september?
• 2515[21:04:55] <ezname> hey i have a error upgrading/updating, please help replaced-url
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• 2517[21:04:58] <hays> trying to decide if my new build should be based on buster to give me a bit extra time for support in the long run
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• 2519[21:05:33] <oct2pus> i see that firefox-esr 60 is in experimental, im assuming it should reach buster in a week or two right?
• 2520[21:06:12] <ezname> The repository 'replaced-url
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• 2524[21:08:59] <ezname> i need help?
• 2525[21:09:15] <ezname> ez problem for you guys i guess
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• 2528[21:15:48] <oct2pus> also a thanks to the debian installer team, the buster alpha installer was much more painless than i was expecitng
• 2529[21:16:08] <oct2pus> im up and going from my antergos install within 20 minutes <3
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• 2537[21:21:02] <jak2000> hi all, friends: how to install java 8u151
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• 2557[21:37:57] <jhutchins_wk> ezname: They just did a point release, the mirrors will be heavily loaded and some might not yet be up-to-date.
• 2558[21:38:07] <jhutchins_wk> !mirror status
• 2559[21:38:07] <dpkg> Debian mirrors have timestamp files we use to determine how recently they have been updated. Here are some statistics the mirror maintainers provide: replaced-url
• 2560[21:38:27] <jhutchins_wk> ,v java8
• 2561[21:38:28] <judd> No package named 'java8' was found in amd64.
• 2562[21:38:32] <jhutchins_wk> ,v java
• 2563[21:38:33] <judd> No package named 'java' was found in amd64.
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• 2565[21:39:36] <jhutchins_wk> ,v java8-runtime
• 2566[21:39:38] <judd> No package named 'java8-runtime' was found in amd64.
• 2567[21:39:41] <mnuhmnuh> ,v jre
• 2568[21:39:42] <judd> No package named 'jre' was found in amd64.
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• 2570[21:40:52] <mnuhmnuh> ,v openjdk-9-jre
• 2571[21:40:53] <judd> Package: openjdk-9-jre on amd64 -- stretch-backports: 9~b181-4~bpo9+1
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• 2575[21:42:39] <mnuhmnuh> ,v openjdk-8-jre
• 2576[21:42:40] <judd> Package: openjdk-8-jre on amd64 -- stretch: 8u151-b12-1~deb9u1; jessie-backports: 8u171-b11-1~bpo8+1; stretch-proposed-updates: 8u171-b11-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 8u171-b11-1~deb9u1; buster: 8u171-b11-2; sid: 8u171-b11-2
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• 2590[21:51:08] <Cool_Chipset> hi
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• 2600[21:56:40] <mnuhmnuh> jak2000: notice that? run stretch, install openjdk-8-jre: "8u151-b12-1~deb9u1" (?), be happy.
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• 2604[21:58:20] <Ouroboros> what are the exact implications of setting no-tld-query in resolv.conf?
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• 2612[22:03:57] <mnuhmnuh> Ouroboros: i'd guess don't escalate search to top level dns if not found by existing dns; maybe search web for _no-tld-query_ would explain.
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• 2618[22:07:02] <ezname> jhutchins_wk thnks
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• 2643[22:25:25] <Ultima> abramov: This sounds like it maybe the issue. I have tested this in unprivileged mode and privileged, but I'm not sure if the container can modify /proc at all.
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• 2672[22:53:32] <Henry151> Hi guys, I'm trying to follow the directions here replaced-url
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• 2679[23:00:35] <abrotman> Henry151: bcc seems to already be in debian
• 2680[23:00:48] <abrotman> judd: versions bcc
• 2681[23:00:49] <judd> Package: bcc on amd64 -- jessie: 0.16.17-3.1; wheezy: 0.16.17-3.1; stretch: 0.16.17-3.2; buster: 0.16.17-3.3; sid: 0.16.17-3.3
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• 2683[23:02:10] <frazr> any germans in the chat? dont trust these ping test sites, would like to check response tiem on my test-webpage
• 2684[23:02:10] <Henry151> abrotman: that's a different program
• 2685[23:02:23] <Henry151> same name
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• 2687[23:02:35] <abrotman> well, that's confusing :)
• 2688[23:02:44] <abrotman> dpkg: de
• 2689[23:02:45] <dpkg> Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
• 2690[23:02:52] <frazr> ah, thanks
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• 2694[23:03:44] <abrotman> Henry151: your paste may have been truncated? I see it running some tests?
• 2695[23:04:13] <Henry151> abrotman: that's where it hangs -- it just sits there, I left it for as long as an hour, it doesn't continue
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• 2697[23:04:34] <abrotman> ctrl-c and trying again does the same?
• 2698[23:04:39] <Henry151> have to interrupt it by killing the debuild process, a keyboard interrupt doesn't work
• 2699[23:04:49] <Henry151> yeah i've tried it a few times now
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• 2702[23:05:11] <abrotman> strace doesn't reveal anything?
• 2703[23:05:15] <Henry151> ctrl-c does nothing, but if i run killall debuild in another terminal, and then try again, it still hangs in the same spot
• 2704[23:05:32] <Henry151> abrotman: now that might be the next step -- i don't know how to use strace, never tried
• 2705[23:05:46] <abrotman> it has a man page :) .. bu tit's going to be insanely noisy
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• 2707[23:06:32] <Henry151> i'd love to know how to get a stacktrace of it, even just to show to people who are trying to help me :) I'll go look at the manpage.
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• 2713[23:15:04] <Ouroboros> Henry151: the last thing in strace should be the thing :P
• 2714[23:15:23] <Ouroboros> but yeah, the output will be huge
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• 2723[23:18:56] <hisforever> I'm new to debian system How do I set time in tool bar to 12 hour?
• 2724[23:19:48] <annadane> which tool bar?
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• 2726[23:20:19] <annadane> most clocks will allow you to right click them and adjust the time that way
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• 2743[23:26:23] <hisforever> I'm running tumblweed and I can't get blender to insta;; wounder why?
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• 2745[23:27:38] <hisforever> Thanks annadane
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• 2749[23:28:41] <grobi> o/ hello
• 2750[23:28:59] <hisforever> will blender run on Debian sys?
• 2751[23:29:11] <LtL> hisforever: yes
• 2752[23:29:15] <hisforever> hi hroot
• 2753[23:29:33] <grobi> what is the mpd package actually doing on stretch?
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• 2756[23:30:16] <hisforever> ltl: I can't seen to get blender to install
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• 2758[23:31:28] <grobi> ss -tulpn | grep 6600 tcp LISTEN 0 5 127.0.0.1 6600 *:* users:(("mpd",pid=23899,fd=8) looks good, but..
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• 2760[23:32:17] <hisforever> om Manjaro kde it installs fine but in tumbelweed It gives be error
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• 2762[23:32:42] <hisforever> on =om
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• 2764[23:32:57] <grobi> $: mpd Jun 23 22:38 : socket: Failed to bind to '127.0.0.1:6600': Address already in use
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• 2767[23:34:39] <LtL> hisforever: you could try, aptitude why-not blender
• 2768[23:35:17] <jim> grobi, you've already got something running on that port of localhost
• 2769[23:35:43] <hisforever> LtL is aptitude like blender?
• 2770[23:36:23] <hisforever> I'm really new to Debian
• 2771[23:36:41] <mtn> hisforever: why are you asking about suse problem in a debian channel?
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• 2773[23:37:03] <jim> grobi, so you already have something called mpd running on that port
• 2774[23:37:05] <LtL> hisforever: no, its a package manager
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• 2777[23:38:00] <jim> hisforever, I dunno what blender is... but apt/aptitude/apt-get lets you install packages on your debian
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• 2779[23:38:31] <hisforever> because I'm running tumbleweed as a Debian
• 2780[23:38:40] <grobi> jim i just learned that ss -tulpn | grep 6600 tcp shows what
• 2781[23:38:51] <mtn> hisforever: you mean you are running suse in a virtual machine?
• 2782[23:39:00] <hisforever> i'll leave if this is wrong channel
• 2783[23:39:15] <mtn> hisforever: if you are asking for help with suse, this is the wrong channel
• 2784[23:39:20] <hisforever> no installd sys
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• 2787[23:40:01] <hisforever> ok thanks for help I'll leave
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• 2789[23:40:37] <grobi> mpd --version is Music Player Daemon 0.19.21
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• 2794[23:41:28] <grobi> i already had conversation with #mpd channel
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• 2802[23:45:16] <grobi> mpd --verbose --stdout --no-daemon config_file: loading file /home/rtng/.mpd/mpd.conf socket: Failed to bind to '127.0.0.1:6600': Address already in use
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• 2804[23:46:01] <grobi> so md.conf is loaded...
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