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19 [00:07:09] <kill0rmachine> omg i figured it out! can you belive it gus? on intel kms is disabled by default replaced-url
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26 [00:12:38] <_2E0LNX> Greetings lovely Debian peoples. I have a question about the order in which a system package upgrade would take effect. If apt reports that package-X will be removed AND upgraded, does that mean that I will come out the other end of the process with a newer version of package-X or no package-X at all ?
27 [00:13:06] <kill0rmachine> "option modeset=1" > i915.conf and "video=<xres>x<yres>" boot option sets the console resolution
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29 [00:13:26] <_2E0LNX> I suspect what I am being told is "i'll remove the old one, and put a newer one in it's place" but it's not exactly clear (I have CLI output if it helps)
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40 [00:17:19] <LtL> really sorry about that folks, the attacks can stop now
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42 [00:18:05] <annadane> _2E0LNX, yeah, output would help, kind of hard to know what you're talking about without real output; i suspect you'll just end up with a replaced version of the package
43 [00:18:11] <annadane> paste.debian.net
44 [00:18:18] <_2E0LNX> annadane: replaced-url
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48 [00:19:16] <annadane> so as far as i can see none of those packages are repeated
49 [00:19:30] <annadane> not removed and also upgraded
50 [00:19:34] * _2E0LNX learns to read
51 [00:19:36] <_2E0LNX> ffs..
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53 [00:19:58] <_2E0LNX> it's the apt autoremove bit at the top my head was getting worried about
54 [00:20:05] <annadane> yeah that's totally optional
55 [00:20:07] <_2E0LNX> of course, those will be overridden
56 [00:20:08] <annadane> i never do it
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58 [00:20:49] <annadane> (i'm also running debian unstable, it's most likely safe to do that in stable, except not in your case because you have a massive truckload of them)
59 [00:20:52] <_2E0LNX> sorry, it's approaching midnight in the UK...
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61 [00:21:23] <annadane> if you want i can give you a configuration to not show packages in an apt autoremove list
62 [00:21:40] <_2E0LNX> naa... I'm good thanks...
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65 [00:22:07] <_2E0LNX> I just need to check if I need the proxmox-pve and pve-firmware packages... waiting on a reply in ##proxmox on that
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68 [00:24:06] <_2E0LNX> thanks annadane, sorry I was being blind
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183 [01:31:45] <padomay> hi there
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186 [01:32:17] <padomay> i was adding a repository and it displayed some errors...
187 [01:32:18] <padomay> replaced-url
188 [01:32:29] <padomay> can someone help me? :)
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198 [01:36:13] <siraben`> ,vt firefox
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200 [01:36:16] <siraben`> ,vt firefox-esr
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203 [01:36:32] <siraben`> ,v firefox-esr
204 [01:36:33] <judd> Package: firefox-esr on amd64 -- jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.1.0esr-1~bpo80+1; jessie: 52.5.0esr-1~deb8u1; stretch: 52.6.0esr-1~deb9u1; wheezy-security: 52.8.0esr-1~deb7u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 52.8.0esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 52.8.0esr-1~deb8u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 52.8.0esr-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 52.8.0esr-1~deb9u1; buster: 52.8.0esr-1; sid:
205 [01:36:34] <judd> 52.8.0esr-1; experimental: 60.0.1esr-2
206 [01:36:49] <siraben`> So debian hasn't jumped to firefox 60 yet?
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208 [01:37:47] <annadane> firefox regular is not likely to ever be in debian stable - but no, firefox-esr does not use firefox 60 technology yet, either
209 [01:38:03] <annadane> ah, you did indicate esr in your ,v query
210 [01:38:05] <annadane> but yeah, no
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212 [01:38:26] <siraben`> firefox-esr is now version 60
213 [01:38:37] <siraben`> replaced-url
214 [01:38:45] <siraben`> But firefox-esr v. 52 is still supported
215 [01:38:48] <siraben`> At least for a while.
216 [01:38:57] <annadane> yes, stable has a slow update policy
217 [01:39:08] <annadane> 52 reaches EOL in august
218 [01:39:12] <siraben`> So I would expect firefox 60 around August?
219 [01:39:23] <siraben`> According to
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221 [01:39:35] <annadane> i'm not sure for certain when there will be esr 60, no official statements as far as i'm aware
222 [01:39:36] <siraben`> Ah I see.
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226 [01:39:57] <siraben`> I believe they always use the oldest supported version
227 [01:40:00] <annadane> you can always get it from mozilla's site
228 [01:40:54] <siraben`> And then making a .desktop file?
229 [01:41:15] <annadane> possibly. wiki.debian.org/Firefox has more detailed instructions
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233 [01:43:18] <siraben`> ,v firefox
234 [01:43:19] <judd> Package: firefox on amd64 -- jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.0-1~bpo80+1; sid: 60.0.1-5; experimental: 61.0~b8-1
235 [01:43:31] <siraben`> Ah so on unstable it's version 60.
236 [01:43:53] <siraben`> annadane: This is similar to the installation process of tor browser
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238 [01:44:08] <annadane> for sid, firefox-esr is 52
239 [01:44:10] <siraben`> the tor binary has an option to "install" on the system, basically automate the .desktop file.
240 [01:44:14] <annadane> regular firefox is 60
241 [01:44:31] <siraben`> What are you running?
242 [01:44:33] <annadane> sid
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245 [01:45:35] <annadane> unless you meant firefox, in which case firefox 60
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247 [01:48:42] <siraben`> Ah sid
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290 [02:14:04] <rant> ok I just did a jessie->stretch upgrade and I'd come here to make sure everything was working and it seems ok except it seems to have modified lightdm's config even though I specifically recall telling it not to. Problem is I believe root is disabled and I have nfc what the user's password is and pretty sure they dont either. Its no longer auto logging in
291 [02:14:19] <rant> I tried init=/bin/bash from grub and it kernel panic
292 [02:14:52] <rant> I need to get back in so I can setup lightdm to auto login and apparently you can't do the init= thing with systemd or something idk..
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294 [02:15:58] <rant> do I seriously need to find a bootable media and chroot rescue this or is there some new way to bypass login?
295 [02:16:05] <annadane> i wonder if this would help at all
296 [02:16:07] <annadane> !frp
297 [02:16:07] <dpkg> For GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt.
298 [02:16:14] <annadane> "forgot root password"
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300 [02:16:27] <rant> I didn't put /bin/sh I put /bin/bash.. shouldnt matter afaik
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304 [02:17:54] <mutante> is the disk also encrypted ?
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311 [02:19:48] <rant> ugh.. now the damn thing doesnt even seem to be showing grub.. goes no signal on the screen after the bios
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316 [02:22:51] <rant> yes its resulting in a kernel panic attempt to kill init when I do init=/bin/sh
317 [02:23:21] <rant> apparently all the million drives he got plugged in makes it take a long time to show grub.. I unplugged everything and it boots faster :P
318 [02:23:49] <rant> oh well I guess I gotta make something I can chroot rescue from
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320 [02:24:10] * rant is real mad at systemd again for the first time in a long time
321 [02:25:01] <rant> cause I'm pretty damn sure thats whats responsible for init= not booting to a shell anymore
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325 [02:26:09] <rant> wait a minute I'm getting all mad for nothing.. I got f'n keys to this machine on my phone
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327 [02:26:16] <rant> doh
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332 [02:29:52] <rant> worst part of that is I was doing this upgrade on the way over on the bus from my phone
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336 [02:30:21] <rant> I'm just so stressed out when something like this screws up I stop thinking straight :P
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342 [02:31:54] <rant> oh well that wont work apparently it has network issues too
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345 [02:34:55] <rant> couldn't even find this whatever .. chrome I think it is.. on this win10 when I switched to another window to clear off a thumbdrive
346 [02:35:11] <rant> this windows 10 looks about as bad as unity
347 [02:37:04] <rant> now the question is what is the simplest way I can use windows 10 to make a thumbdrive bootable for chroot rescue
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351 [02:38:27] * rant shoots over to mirrors.kernel.org to download a debian netinst iso.. but has no clue how to make it a bootable thumbdrive on win10
352 [02:38:51] <dvs> !win32diskimager
353 [02:38:51] <dpkg> win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from replaced-url
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355 [02:39:02] <tharkun> Good $DAY. A client wants me to connect using a "Forticlient" program to connect to his server. Can anyone tell me if such thing exist for linux?
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358 [02:40:04] <rant> us linux users usually just flame people like that.. and if that doesnt work beat em with a keyboard
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361 [02:40:45] <annadane> tharkun, may want to ask ##linux
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363 [02:41:05] <rant> tharkun: all seriousness though it seems to be a proprietary vpn and is available for linux
364 [02:41:14] <annadane> doesn't appear to be in debian, at least
365 [02:41:23] <rant> yeah cause its proprietary :P
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367 [02:41:28] <rant> and we have openvpn and such
368 [02:42:13] <annadane> well, the contrib/non-free section exists
369 [02:42:33] <rant> its not like cool-sounding-named-vpn-software-company were the only ones to ever think of encrypted vpn that use SSL
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402 [03:02:56] <andersonid> hi... does anyone knows how to debug my sstp-client vpn connection attempts? I cant figure out why I cant connect to my VPN (SSTP) just reading syslog. :(
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412 [03:08:33] <kion> will "tar -xvzf myfile.tar.gz " overwrite the file in a directory? or will it rename them if already exist?
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425 [03:21:11] <tharkun> annadane: thanks.
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430 [03:26:08] <flugger> kion: I elive it does, you could use -k to --keep old files
431 [03:26:14] <flugger> *blieve
432 [03:26:19] <flugger> shit.
433 [03:26:26] <kion> lol
434 [03:26:27] <annadane> beeleeve?
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436 [03:26:50] <flugger> Yes, that.
437 [03:27:02] <mutante> elive is like a distro name
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439 [03:27:30] <flugger> iLive is the apple distro
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551 [05:02:10] <birdbolt1> helo
552 [05:02:18] <thatpythonguy> hello
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554 [05:02:31] <birdbolt1> I still havent been able to solve my issue with my hhidpi screen from several days ago
555 [05:02:37] <birdbolt1> so I have a different solution:
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557 [05:02:53] <birdbolt1> access my linux filesystem via network and edit code from windows
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559 [05:03:25] <birdbolt1> It runs in a vm but gets internet access via NAT. Do you guys know how i can expose linux root directory to windows over network?
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562 [05:03:50] <somiaj> birdbolt1: in what way? Do you just want to do development in debian on windows?
563 [05:03:57] <birdbolt1> yes
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565 [05:04:09] <thatpythonguy> use a virtual environment
566 [05:04:10] <birdbolt1> I've struggled too much with display issues, and I really just need to get going
567 [05:04:21] <birdbolt1> thatpythonguy, thats what im using rn
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569 [05:04:30] <birdbolt1> but all linux look too tiny
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571 [05:04:53] <birdbolt1> i have a surface book. hidpi display, and linux does not play well wwith that. I crane my neck to read and edit code
572 [05:04:54] <somiaj> birdbolt1: linux has this new fancy feature that is its version of a debian chroot.
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574 [05:05:01] <somiaj> birdbolt1: debian even makes offical images for it
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579 [05:05:35] <thatpythonguy> what if you made the font bigger
580 [05:05:41] <thatpythonguy> my bad tho
581 [05:06:06] <birdbolt1> that is what i did in the past
582 [05:06:07] <somiaj> birdbolt1: it is called windows linux subsystem, kinda designed to give users a debian shell interface inside of windows to do linux development and testing on
583 [05:06:12] <birdbolt1> many programs dont respefct that
584 [05:06:19] <birdbolt1> and windows still appear tiny with overflowing text
585 [05:06:35] <birdbolt1> constantly resisizing shit. I'm tired of that
586 [05:06:44] <thatpythonguy> what distro is it?
587 [05:06:54] <birdbolt1> debian
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589 [05:09:54] <annadane> stupid question: have you tried xrandr
590 [05:10:51] <birdbolt1> yup
591 [05:11:04] <birdbolt1> its behavior has been more of a hack than solution
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608 [05:22:04] <birdbolt1> installed using gdebi
609 [05:22:06] <birdbolt1> but i cant find it?
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611 [05:22:57] <birdbolt1> i downloaded the .deb file for chrome (before you redirect me to chromium, it is severely handicapped) aand installed gdebi
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613 [05:23:15] <birdbolt1> i installed chrome expecting it to show up in medu but i cant find it
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615 [05:23:58] <somiaj> just run it from a terminal, google-chrome-stable is usually the binary name
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810 [06:22:23] <silverballz> birdbolt1: there is an ext3/4 windows driver here: replaced-url
811 [06:22:36] <silverballz> that will give you access to ext filesystem from ntfs
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993 [08:39:26] <Haohmaru> with the nvidia-304 driver, can the screen be rotated?
994 [08:40:12] <annadane> xrandr can do it; the nvidia control center if you have it may also have an option
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996 [08:40:22] <birdbolt1> hello
997 [08:40:37] <somiaj> I don't know if the older 304 nvidia driver supported xrandr
998 [08:40:40] <birdbolt1> i have read that pip comes with python3 by default
999 [08:40:46] <somiaj> you will most likely have to use nvidias own settings for this.
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1002 [08:41:05] <birdbolt1> i tried pip,
1003 [08:41:14] <birdbolt1> will@debian:~/trials$ python3 pip
1004 [08:41:14] <birdbolt1> python3: can't open file 'pip': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
1005 [08:41:24] <jelly> Haohmaru: like xrandr -o 1 ?
1006 [08:41:46] <Haohmaru> annadane, i have a rotate script in .xsession (using xrandr) but after installing the nvidia driver - i need to rotate my face.. and i couldn't find a rotate setting in the nvidia graphical settings panel
1007 [08:41:56] <somiaj> birdbolt1: well it would be pip3, and no, in debian python3-pip is a sepearate package, and you may want to consider what you are doing if you need pip (virtual enviomrents are recommended for such a use case)
1008 [08:42:05] <jelly> Haohmaru: pastebin the output of "xrandr -q"
1009 [08:42:12] <nkuttler> birdbolt1: it's just "pip", not "python pip"..
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1012 [08:42:19] <birdbolt1> yes, i have installed virtualenv nkuttler
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1014 [08:43:04] <birdbolt1> the right order is install virtual env --> create virtualenv and activate --> use pip to install django --> work
1015 [08:43:06] <birdbolt1> right?
1016 [08:43:06] <Haohmaru> oh, actually, my rotate script now says "VGA-1 not found"
1017 [08:43:19] <birdbolt1> i assume the system-wide pip works in that virtualenv?
1018 [08:43:19] <Haohmaru> okay, the name of the display must have changed
1019 [08:43:53] <birdbolt1> hmm this si odd:
1020 [08:43:54] <birdbolt1> will@debian:~/trials$ pip3
1021 [08:43:54] <birdbolt1> bash: pip3: command not found
1022 [08:43:58] <somiaj> birdbolt1: you do need to install python3-pip as well, as mentioned
1023 [08:43:59] <birdbolt1> didnt wrk either
1024 [08:44:02] <jelly> Haohmaru: yes, screen names do not match between nouveau and nvidia
1025 [08:44:03] <Haohmaru> yey, fixed
1026 [08:44:28] <somiaj> birdbolt1: and debian does package python3-django
1027 [08:44:38] <birdbolt1> but its an old one
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1030 [08:44:44] <birdbolt1> 1.10 or something
1031 [08:44:45] <Haohmaru> i was "fine" with noveau again, untill the 2nd time i did suspend and then it failed to wake up properly
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1033 [08:44:52] <birdbolt1> I wanna use 2. 0.somthing
1034 [08:45:01] <nkuttler> birdbolt1: you should probably be asking in #django
1035 [08:45:06] <birdbolt1> hmm okay
1036 [08:45:07] <annadane> i get more issues with nvidia than nouveau but nouveau has more chances of crashing... *shrug*
1037 [08:46:12] <birdbolt1> nkuttler, hmm cant join somehow
1038 [08:46:15] <birdbolt1> both using join command
1039 [08:46:18] <birdbolt1> and channel search
1040 [08:46:20] <birdbolt1> just does nothing
1041 [08:46:25] <birdbolt1> other channels work though
1042 [08:46:35] <nkuttler> birdbolt1: you probably need to be authenticated with services
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1046 [08:46:59] <birdbolt1> ahh thanks that worked
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1048 [08:48:04] <BrahRah> Is there any CC that doesn't use miners?
1049 [08:48:29] <nkuttler> cc?
1050 [08:48:45] <BrahRah> cryptocurrency
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1052 [08:48:52] <somiaj> doesn't really sound like a debian support question
1053 [08:49:01] <BrahRah> oh up wrong chat
1054 [08:49:06] <BrahRah> sry
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1058 [08:49:49] <Haohmaru> heh, funny, as i move the mouse it feels like it'd redrawing with.. i don't know.. 30fps
1059 [08:49:56] <Haohmaru> * it's
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1114 [09:10:48] <padomay> hi.. do you guys have freezing problems with debian 9.4?
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1116 [09:11:18] <annadane> if you're using nouveau it's possible
1117 [09:11:37] <annadane> otherwise that's a really general question, some people will have that problem, some won't
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1125 [09:15:39] <michael2> I have a problem with "Ctrl lock" (I didn't even know Ctrl-lock was a tthing!) getting stuck on when my stretch resumes from a suspend, but it doesn't freeze up
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1128 [09:16:14] <annadane> padomay, .xsession-errors and journalctl may give more information
1129 [09:16:34] <somiaj> you mean scroll lock? hit ctrl-Q it should remove scroll lock from your console/terminal
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1132 [09:18:02] <padomay> annadane, home dir?
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1134 [09:18:18] <annadane> for xsession-errors, yes
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1137 [09:19:12] <padomay> what if i empty the file?
1138 [09:19:24] <annadane> well, the logs will be gone
1139 [09:19:44] <padomay> yeah it's to see what it says when it will freeze again
1140 [09:19:56] <annadane> it won't cause breakage, it's safe to do
1141 [09:22:08] <padomay> mm k
1142 [09:22:14] <padomay> anyway, thank you
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1144 [09:22:51] <thatoneuser> Hi, is there a way to cut lines from a text file based on regex? I've got a list of movie names but want to cut off everything after (year) so I can see what dupes I've got.
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1149 [09:23:58] <michael2> somiaj: were you meaning me about "scroll lock"?
1150 [09:24:12] <somiaj> michael2: yes
1151 [09:24:32] <michael2> can I check that with a term capabilities command?
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1153 [09:25:22] <disposable2> thatoneuser: there are may ways. you can do it with sed or vim (or 100 other tools).
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1155 [09:25:54] <thatoneuser> disposable2: got an example for sed?
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1158 [09:26:06] <somiaj> michael2: I'm unsure, but I think scroll-lock is a common thing all terminals support. There use to be a scroll-lock key on keyboards for this paticular thing, but ctrl-lock sounds like something I've seen do this.
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1160 [09:26:15] <michael2> thatoneuser: you can use the `-v' option to grep - that will match all lines that dont have the pattern
1161 [09:26:21] <somiaj> michael2: it freezes the terminal, but system should run fine.
1162 [09:26:25] <disposable2> thatoneuser: give me a sample line from your file
1163 [09:26:33] <somiaj> michael2: though I could have missintrupited what your issue was.
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1168 [09:27:51] <michael2> somiaj: for me Ctrl-q usually what I use to unlock the terminal when I accidentally hit <Ctrl-S> which locked it. I think there is a command to list terminal capabilities though
1169 [09:28:04] <thatoneuser> disposable2: replaced-url
1170 [09:29:01] <thatoneuser> would like for it to cut off everything after ...) and export to a new file > log2.txt
1171 [09:29:28] <thatoneuser> so then i could run that through a dupe checker. unless i can do all this in 1 swing.
1172 [09:29:53] <disposable2> thatoneuser: sed -i -e 's/).*/)/g' test1
1173 [09:30:02] <disposable2> thatoneuser: test1 being the filename
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1175 [09:30:24] <thatoneuser> ty
1176 [09:30:31] <disposable2> thatoneuser: you're welcome
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1180 [09:31:51] <thatoneuser> perfect, just what i wanted todo.
1181 [09:31:54] <thatoneuser> ty again
1182 [09:32:06] <disposable2> thatoneuser: oh, back up your file first
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1184 [09:32:24] <disposable2> thatoneuser: too late?
1185 [09:32:32] <thatoneuser> nope, i always backup first
1186 [09:32:35] <thatoneuser> :)
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1189 [09:33:03] <disposable2> thatoneuser: spoken like a man who's already lost valuable data
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1191 [09:33:30] <thatoneuser> :D true
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1199 [09:39:41] <dqsii> speaking of losing data i lost half of my parents photos when making changes to my current pc before my new pc build is done :(
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1202 [09:41:09] <thatoneuser> dqsii: dang that sucks hard. :(
1203 [09:41:24] <thatoneuser> specially that kind of data.
1204 [09:41:56] <thatoneuser> been there done that though. now i make sure to always do backups.
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1213 [09:43:39] <petn-randall> dqsii: No backups? If you accidentally deleted them, you might still be able to recover them.
1214 [09:44:56] <dqsii> i doubt it i formated all my drives and made os changes on this pc to make way for the new pc and os i plan on running on it
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1218 [09:47:19] <zW> Hi, I have an apache2.4 running php (phpfpm, ondemand scheduled) with a very slow time to first byte
1219 [09:47:28] <zW> It is obvious that something is wron
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1309 [09:47:40] <jelly> zW: which debian release?
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1315 [09:47:44] <zW> If I'm looking to strace's I see 55% time for clone syscalls
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1317 [09:48:03] <zW> 7.1 (We are in the progress of upgrading)
1318 [09:48:19] <zW> Running a 4.14 kernel
1319 [09:48:38] <zW> Running on top of VMWare, everything is spectre and meldown patched.
1320 [09:48:43] <jelly> so you have a custom apache and a custom kernel on debian 7?
1321 [09:48:54] <zW> Yes, own packages.
1322 [09:49:12] <jelly> and custom php as well? :-)
1323 [09:49:18] <zW> I see a lot of clone and epoll_wait syscalls, 668 clone calls
1324 [09:49:19] <zW> Yes
1325 [09:49:20] <zW> :)
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1329 [09:49:32] <jelly> and you want us to be able to help you how? :-)
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1331 [09:49:53] <zW> jelly: we did nog had any issues about 6 months ago, so we are hitting some kind of performance bottleneck
1332 [09:50:05] <zW> I'm just looking for a way to see where the bottleneck sits
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1337 [09:51:11] <jelly> you were stracing what, fpm?
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1339 [09:51:28] <zW> Yes, when I'm serving static html everything goed fast
1340 [09:51:29] <jelly> clone is just threading
1341 [09:51:40] <zW> When I strace fpm I see this:
1342 [09:51:43] <zW> % time seconds usecs/call calls errors syscall
1343 [09:51:44] <zW> ------ ----------- ----------- --------- --------- ----------------
1344 [09:51:44] <zW> 65.94 0.002922 731 4 clone
1345 [09:51:44] <zW> 34.06 0.001509 17 91 epoll_wait
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1347 [09:51:46] <jelly> !paste
1348 [09:51:46] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: replaced-url
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1350 [09:51:52] <zW> Woops, sorry
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1352 [09:52:10] <zW> Well, I just see clone and epoll_waits taking all the time
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1355 [09:52:40] <jelly> what was the exact strace command line to get that kind of output, I'm unfamiliar with it
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1359 [09:53:05] <zW> strace -o /tmp/strace.log -c -p `pgrep -u 35660 php-fpm`
1360 [09:53:43] <jelly> and you did not -f ?
1361 [09:54:01] <zW> No I'll do that now
1362 [09:54:01] <zW> Sec
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1365 [09:55:53] <zW> Aha
1366 [09:56:20] <zW> jelly: I'm seeing a bunch of lstats with 69627 errors
1367 [09:56:27] <zW> % time seconds usecs/call calls errors syscall
1368 [09:56:33] <zW> 43.51 0.378235 5 70865 69627 lstat
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1370 [09:56:43] <zW> I'm storing the data on a NFS volume
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1383 [10:06:57] <jelly> zW: and that al might be normal
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1399 [10:13:21] <Walakea> is there no easier way to obtain the newest G++ (and libstdc++) into Debian Stretch than using chroot?
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1401 [10:13:48] <Walakea> i noticed there is clang in backports, but i need g++ specifically
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1411 [10:16:48] <petn-randall> Walakea: You could just backport it yourself.
1412 [10:16:50] <petn-randall> !ssb
1413 [10:16:50] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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1416 [10:18:48] <jelly> Walakea: no, because libstdc++ is pretty much a core OS component
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1431 [10:27:01] <petn-randall> Indeed, libstdc++ you won't get backported without breaking your system.
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1450 [10:36:06] <Walakea> ok, the other thing, is it impossible to enter chroot without using superuser?
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1452 [10:36:58] <petn-randall> Walakea: You need to be root to chroot, yes. However, consider using docker or similar tools if you need a different environment than your base system. It's fairly easy to use once it's set up.
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1454 [10:38:17] <jelly> petn-randall: well technically libstdc++6 should have a stable ABI and not break anything.
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1457 [10:38:56] <petn-randall> Pfff, good luck with that!
1458 [10:39:05] <jelly> backward compatible, so not break anything going forward at least
1459 [10:39:23] <jelly> I had good luck with that until gcc5.
1460 [10:40:23] <Walakea> not that i am going to do that, but if i were to backport libstdc++, woulnd't i have to recompile everything on my system?
1461 [10:40:48] <Walakea> jelly: you just answered it
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1463 [10:41:37] <Walakea> does libstdc++ version scheme go along with g++?
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1465 [10:42:05] <jelly> I think it goes its own way
1466 [10:42:28] <jelly> ,v libstdc++6
1467 [10:42:29] <judd> Package: libstdc++6 on amd64 -- wheezy: 4.7.2-5; jessie: 4.9.2-10; jessie-proposed-updates: 4.9.2-10+deb8u1; jessie-security: 4.9.2-10+deb8u1; stretch: 6.3.0-18+deb9u1; stretch-security: 6.3.0-18+deb9u1; buster: 8.1.0-3; sid: 8.1.0-5
1468 [10:42:35] <jelly> or not
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1470 [10:43:45] <shtrb|work> Is there some dh_script that can build debian packages from composer packages (and all needed req) ?
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1472 [10:45:03] <shtrb|work> s/dh_script/anything
1473 [10:46:06] <babilen> shtrb|work: I'm sure there is, maybe ask the php maintainers?
1474 [10:46:36] <shtrb|work> oftc ?
1475 [10:47:35] <babilen> No idea if they have an IRC channel, but I'd look into their packaging guidelines
1476 [10:47:52] <babilen> judd: i dh-php
1477 [10:47:53] <judd> Package dh-php (php, extra) in stretch/amd64: debhelper add-on to handle PHP PECL extensions. Version: 0.26; Size: 12.8k; Installed: 44k
1478 [10:48:03] <babilen> ah, PECL
1479 [10:48:06] <babilen> *shrug*
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1481 [10:48:46] <shtrb|work> just to be clear, I don't wish to maintance a specific package , just to use it to create some deb files that could be handled by apt
1482 [10:49:19] <babilen> Yeah, my understanding was that you look for a packaging helper that helps with the scaffolding
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1527 [11:15:08] <jelly> hey there GeekNerd
1528 [11:15:15] <jelly> aw.
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1530 [11:15:33] <Tegu> lol, phishing in IRC
1531 [11:15:59] <jelly> it's not even phishing, he's just trying to find interesting ways to be an annoyance
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1552 [11:23:14] <cordless1ightsha> damn
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1759 [13:16:00] <user03> hello, i try to load iptables rules with: sudo iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.test.rules but iptables -L don't show me the rules replaced-url
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1765 [13:17:50] <petn-randall> user03: Did the command throw an error?
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1769 [13:18:07] <user03> no
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1771 [13:18:18] <petn-randall> user03: and can you also paste the output of 'sudo iptables -L -vn'?
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1774 [13:20:10] <alipoor90> how can i make a rule for both udp and tcp in nftables? something like: {tcp, udp} dport 53 counter accept comment "accept DNS"
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1778 [13:21:04] <user03> petn-randall, thank you here is the output replaced-url
1779 [13:21:07] <petn-randall> alipoor90: Which OS release are you running?
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1781 [13:21:39] <petn-randall> user03: I see the rules.
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1785 [13:21:50] <eowl> are you root ?
1786 [13:22:07] <user03> me?
1787 [13:22:08] <petn-randall> eowl: Who? What?
1788 [13:22:16] <jelly> Where?
1789 [13:22:22] <eowl> user03:
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1791 [13:22:28] <user03> i use sudo
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1794 [13:23:02] <user03> should i load it as root?
1795 [13:23:09] <jelly> user03: that all looks fine, what's the problem? iptables -L just shows the filter table, if you want to see the rules from the nat table, add -t nat
1796 [13:23:12] <petn-randall> user03: no, root is not the issue.
1797 [13:23:36] <eowl> user03 maybe, i think it's depends distributions
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1801 [13:25:08] <user03> i canT' connect from the internet to prot 25 or 53 ..
1802 [13:25:22] <user03> connction time out
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1804 [13:26:11] <user03> i have to change some lxc config, i am comming back soon thanks
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1808 [13:27:52] <petn-randall> eowl: It's easy to answer though, because we only support one distribution in here.
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1812 [13:30:24] <jelly> Which?
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1814 [13:30:39] <annadane> parrot sec
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1836 [13:45:16] <blackflow> guys any ideas if php7.1 or php7.2 might be backported to stretch before the end of the year (when 7.0 EOLs)? I mean I don't know what's the usual practice for Debian in such cases, that's why I'm asking for any hints.
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1839 [13:46:55] <OS-38463> Hi, I am trying to install "cherrytree" in Kali Linux . But get the following error:
1840 [13:46:57] <OS-38463> Selecting previously unselected package libdbusmenu-glib4:i386.
1841 [13:46:57] <OS-38463> dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:
1842 [13:46:57] <OS-38463> files list file for package 'greenbone-security-assistant' is missing final newline
1843 [13:46:57] <OS-38463> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
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1845 [13:46:58] <dpkg> wish i knew, OS-38463
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1849 [13:47:56] <annadane> !kali
1850 [13:47:56] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
1851 [13:47:58] <annadane> OS-38463, ^
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1853 [13:48:24] <annadane> i think that's legitimately the first kali question i've ever seen in freenode #debian
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1859 [13:49:13] <blackflow> annadane: eh? one pops up weekly.
1860 [13:49:31] <annadane> i've only ever seen it in OFTC
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1888 [13:59:11] <jelly> blackflow: in the past, debian kept backporting security fixes from newer upstream relelases to packaged version on their own, but Debian's definition of what's security relevant might be slightly different from upstream.
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1890 [14:00:02] <jelly> ,v php7.2
1891 [14:00:02] <judd> Package: php7.2 on amd64 -- buster: 7.2.4-1; sid: 7.2.4-1
1892 [14:00:06] <jelly> ,v php7.0
1893 [14:00:07] <judd> Package: php7.0 on amd64 -- sid: 7.0.14-2; stretch: 7.0.27-0+deb9u1; stretch-security: 7.0.27-0+deb9u1; buster: 7.0.29-1; sid: 7.0.29-1
1894 [14:00:40] <blackflow> jelly: I see.
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1938 [14:21:28] <user03> hi, a fresh postfix installtion is not logging there is no /var/log/mail.log should i install rsyslog?
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1940 [14:22:55] <petn-randall> user03: Nothing will be logged there if no mails are processed.
1941 [14:23:02] <annadane> i'm actually not familiar with postfix but generally to get mail you need some kind of MUA, like exim4
1942 [14:23:27] <user03> petn-randall, ok i try it again
1943 [14:23:55] <user03> annadane, postfix is like exim
1944 [14:24:04] <annadane> ah
1945 [14:24:14] <annadane> then yeah it's possible you'll only get mail after doing something that sends mail :P
1946 [14:24:59] <petn-randall> annadane: exim is a MTA, a MUA is e.g. thunderbird.
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1948 [14:25:04] <petn-randall> !mta
1949 [14:25:04] <dpkg> A Message/Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) is a program that transfers e-mail in or out of a system, most often using SMTP. An MTA is usually accessed by calling /usr/sbin/sendmail and thus usually includes that binary. Therefore, in Debian, all MTAs (<exim4>, <postfix>, <qmail>, <ssmtp>, <nullmailer>, etc) mutually conflict. Ask me about <which mta>, <mta comparison> and <why an mta>. replaced-url
1950 [14:25:07] <petn-randall> !mua
1951 [14:25:08] <dpkg> rumour has it, mua is a Mail User Agent, in other words <mailx>, <mutt>, <balsa>, <alpine>, <elm>, <icedove> (thunderbird), <kmail>, <evolution>, or any other mail client program.
1952 [14:25:12] <annadane> oops
1953 [14:25:15] <petn-randall> :)
1954 [14:25:47] <blackflow> user03: postfix uses syslog facilities for logging. with systemd that means it's logged by journald. if you don't forward to a syslog daemon (like rsyslog), which in turn is configured to store mail.* facility messages to /var/log/mail.log, then no, there won't be such file.
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1957 [14:27:48] <user03> blackflow, ok thank you
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1959 [14:27:54] <blackflow> and btw, just starting/stopping postfix will produce log entries. no need to actually process mail to have anything in the appropriate log.
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1970 [14:31:56] <anki> Anyone would like to share how to execute ping command which provide only statistics
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1982 [14:34:38] <jelly> OS-38463: your irc connection seems to be not very stable
1983 [14:35:18] <annadane> but you know what is stable? debian stable! *cheesy endorsement to draw away kali users*
1984 [14:35:25] <anki> Paste bin : replaced-url
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2030 [14:57:16] <anki> Jelly: Thanks its working
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2061 [15:05:21] <[E]sc> i'm trying to access my server via apache2 on a separate computer on the same network, but it keeps timing out. I can ping it, but it doesn't connect. the ports seem to be open and i have the listen :80 on the apache config file. I'm using debian stretch. any ideas how to fix this?
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2065 [15:06:12] <greycat> if a TCP connection to port 80 times out, that's either a firewall dropping packets, or you've got the wrong IP address
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2070 [15:08:21] <ikanobori> Or you're not actually listening on the IP address you're reaching the machine on.
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2073 [15:10:10] <jelly> [E]sc: verify using a sniffer like tcpdump whether the traffic actually reaches your server or not.
2074 [15:10:15] <greycat> No. If there's nothing listening on that port/interface, you will NOT get a timeout. You will get an immediate "Connection refused".
2075 [15:10:20] <greycat> Totally different.
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2079 [15:13:59] <jelly> [E]sc: if traffic does not appear on the relevant interface of your server, verify whether you're resolving and connecting to the right IP
2080 [15:14:42] <jelly> [E]sc: if it's the right IP, verity with "arp" if the MAC address the client sees for that IP matches the MAC address of the server
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2096 [15:23:52] <vandman> Hi, I am looking to use mysql in a specific contexte in debian 8. I created all directory, and modified mysql file to start the service.
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2098 [15:24:25] <vandman> When I start the service, I have the following error: The partition ... is too full!
2099 [15:24:51] <petn-randall> !context
2100 [15:24:52] <dpkg> Try to give enough context! For example, let us know which command/program you are running, what you expected, and what you got instead. Try to be as specific as possible. If your command produced output, share the complete command (with all parameters!) and its output on replaced-url
2101 [15:24:58] <petn-randall> vandman: ^^^
2102 [15:25:09] <greycat> vandman: df
2103 [15:25:13] <vandman> here is the pastebin of my mysql file in /etc/init.d: replaced-url
2104 [15:25:17] <petn-randall> vandman: How did you install mysql?
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2106 [15:25:47] <vandman> via apt
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2108 [15:26:25] <vandman> To be more precise, via ansible : replaced-url
2109 [15:27:46] <petn-randall> vandman: As greycat said: Run "df". Is the disk full?
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2113 [15:30:04] <vandman> the df command return an error because the mysql service does not create the directory as in CenOS.
2114 [15:30:22] <petn-randall> What?
2115 [15:30:26] <greycat> If the df command returns an error, something is seriously broken.
2116 [15:30:36] <petn-randall> vandman: Please paste the output of 'df' to replaced-url
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2126 [15:35:58] <quickquick> hello world:)
2127 [15:36:07] <petn-randall> Hello quickquick
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2130 [15:38:01] <quickquick> i'm sorry and I don't really know if i'm in the good irc channel for this: i'm looking to install a list of .tar.xz packages (1000+) and dont want to do it manually. any suggestions or ideas please? i'm running kali os and I want to import this: replaced-url
2131 [15:38:37] <greycat> !kali
2132 [15:38:37] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
2133 [15:38:52] <greycat> And that is the kindest possible response I can give to this question.
2134 [15:39:26] <annadane> the universe is mocking me
2135 [15:39:34] <quickquick> Thank you it's clear ^^ have a good day everybody
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2138 [15:40:53] <mutante> i like the design of that directory index :p
2139 [15:42:20] <blackflow> annadane: two in a day! :)
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2141 [15:42:50] <greycat> The day is young.
2142 [15:43:20] <mutante> suggest /topic June 1st is Kali Day - today it's ok, the other 364 days of the year, get out and over to #kali-linux
2143 [15:43:32] <annadane> veto, sorry
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2145 [15:43:43] <mutante> ;)
2146 [15:44:11] <vandman> Hi, I get this message: ERROR: The partition with "datadir" is too full!"
2147 [15:44:26] <annadane> with df?
2148 [15:44:29] <vandman> df alone tels me that the directory does not exist.
2149 [15:44:39] <greycat> Gosh, if only there were a command that could tell you how full each file system is.
2150 [15:44:47] <greycat> vandman: bullshit.
2151 [15:44:56] <[E]sc> jelly, thanks i'll give that a try.
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2154 [15:45:59] <mutante> df never said to me "directory doesnt exist". maybe du did, but df?
2155 [15:46:17] <greycat> He's clearly lying to us as hard as he possibly can.
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2157 [15:47:42] <vandman> # df /datadir df: « /datadir »: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type
2158 [15:47:43] <greycat> vandman: In case we were not clear: log in to this system, in such a way that you have an interactive shell where you can type commands. Then press "d", then press "f", then press "Enter". Then take your mouse and highlight the entire shell session, top to bottom, including the command and its output, and paste that into replaced-url
2159 [15:48:11] <blackflow> lol
2160 [15:48:23] <mutante> vandman: "df alone"
2161 [15:48:54] <greycat> df: alone: No such file or directory
2162 [15:49:01] <greycat> You know he'll do eit.
2163 [15:49:04] <mutante> :o lol
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2166 [15:49:51] <mutante> prepares for the "mouse and highlight" issues
2167 [15:49:58] <user03> how can i copy this file? lxc-usernsexec cp /home/user1/config $HOME/.local/share/lxc/vm12/ cp: cannot create regular file '/home/user1/.local/share/lxc/vm12/config': Permission denie
2168 [15:50:22] <vandman> Ok it seem I am not clear enouth. I only have one partition and I use only 7% of it. As I said, I try to run mysql on a specific context , /datadir
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2170 [15:51:19] <vandman> I modified the mysql service script witcc is in /etc/init.d/
2171 [15:51:30] <greycat> Did it work before you modified everything?
2172 [15:51:41] <greycat> How about you just install Debian, then install mysql, and then voila, it's running?
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2174 [15:51:52] <vandman> I modified it to use the datadir.
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2176 [15:52:21] <vandman> Did it work before you modified everything? Yes
2177 [15:52:36] <greycat> Then there's your solution.
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2179 [15:52:55] <vandman> Where I am, they ask me to do this way. I have no choice.
2180 [15:52:57] <greycat> You said you only have one partition, so there is no point in moving anything around.
2181 [15:53:06] <mutante> user03: become "user1" who owns home/user1 while copying ?
2182 [15:53:27] <greycat> user03: and make sure the directory you're trying to copy into is owned by the correct user
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2186 [15:54:43] <vandman> In my Test VM I have only one partition but in production, they give us a smal VM with a mounted volume with enought space. That is why I need to move everything.
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2188 [15:54:59] <user03> i run the command as user1 and created the container
2189 [15:55:21] <greycat> user03: use ls -ld on the target directory path to see the owner, group, and permissions
2190 [15:55:56] <annadane> "no d or f key, keyboard eaten by vultures"
2191 [15:56:11] <babilen> vandman: Why don't you ensure that the directory is present?
2192 [15:56:25] <greycat> "because they won't let me"?
2193 [15:56:55] <user03> -rw-r--r-- 1 user1 user1 1084 Jun 1 09:33 config
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2195 [15:57:03] <greycat> user03: that isn't a directory
2196 [15:57:05] <vandman> I do not know the difference between CentOS and Debian, but in CentOS, it works.
2197 [15:57:13] <greycat> *plonk*
2198 [15:57:55] <mutante> vandman: in the test VM you can pretend as if you have the same mounted volume as in prod, by creating a directory and avoid moving all the things?
2199 [15:58:03] <mutante> make the test VM as much as prod as possible
2200 [15:58:08] <vandman> It is like if Debian set all the needed file and directory when mysql is installed and then just run the service???
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2202 [15:58:14] <user03> drwxrwx--- 3 165536 user1 4096 Jun 1 09:34 vm12
2203 [15:58:31] <greycat> user03: well, that's an interesting ownership there.
2204 [15:58:49] <vandman> In centOS, the service script create the needed file and directory.
2205 [15:58:56] <greycat> user03: chown user1 vm12
2206 [15:59:02] <greycat> (as root)
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2208 [16:00:17] <babilen> vandman: Which version of Debian is this?
2209 [16:00:59] <vandman> 8
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2211 [16:01:39] <greycat> I'd say something like "mkdir /datadir" but he won't do it, and the reason will be something insane. Like "there's a 13 command limit in ansible and I've already used all 13 so I can't add a mkdir", or god knows what.
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2213 [16:02:13] <babilen> Isn't /datadir simply a placeholder for the actual datadir used in MySQL?
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2215 [16:02:38] <mutante> i assumed it's because he is replacing that for the actual datadir for privacy reasons
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2217 [16:02:53] <greycat> If that's true, then I should've /ignored him SOONER.
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2220 [16:03:52] <user03> greycat, thank you but i created unprivileged container as it's in debian wiki, how can it be that there is a wrong permissions?
2221 [16:03:55] <babilen> Mounting whatever vandman needs to /var/lib/mysql would also be an option
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2225 [16:04:24] <greycat> babilen: "they won't let me"
2226 [16:04:28] <zodd> I installed and configured Varnish from deb repo. It runs fine when I execute the ExecStart line manually, but dies when starting through systemd
2227 [16:04:33] <mutante> vandman: i say the actual issue is that the test VM is too different from prod. it needs to fake being like prod. with mkdir or mount
2228 [16:04:34] <zodd> how can I debug this?
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2230 [16:04:56] <vandman> the ansible posted task comes after task to create the context (user, datadir and subdir), task to install mysql via apt.
2231 [16:05:06] <greycat> zodd: systemctl status theservicename, journalctl -u theservicename
2232 [16:05:36] <vandman> the VM is provided with the mounted volume in /datadir
2233 [16:05:51] <babilen> vandman: So, the path MySQL's datadir points to would exist at that point?
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2235 [16:06:10] <zodd> status gives me: Active: inactive (dead) since Fri 2018-06-01 16:02:30 CEST; 2s ago & journal gives me: systemd[1]: Started Varnish HTTP accelerator.
2236 [16:06:30] <mutante> vandman: and what is the /datadir in production?
2237 [16:06:32] <greycat> zodd: it should give you a LOT more than that, especially if you run it as root instead of a non-root user
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2239 [16:06:45] <zodd> I am root
2240 [16:07:00] <greycat> zodd: then there should be like half a screen full of information including what looks like log file lines at the end
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2242 [16:07:23] <vandman> I created a playbook to be used for debian and CenOs. I started the work with CenOs. in Centos, I just Specify datadir and then It creates me the proper structure
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2244 [16:07:55] <zodd> true, PID etc. but no errors, and the process/pid has died. The only thing hinting that something is wrong is the inactive (dead) message
2245 [16:08:19] <vandman> In centOs, mysql service script create /datadir/base
2246 [16:08:36] <mutante> vandman: so you are saying you wrote ansible code and it works on one OS but not on another?
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2249 [16:08:53] <vandman> I do not know wy in Debian it does not act the same?
2250 [16:08:59] <petn-randall> vandman: then fix the ansible role. Add a single task that creates that dir.
2251 [16:09:00] <mutante> or just that you are different mysql versions
2252 [16:09:15] <vandman> I probably have to do something. But what?
2253 [16:09:26] <petn-randall> vandman: Because a typo would cause your mysql dir ending up somewhere you might not want it, without noticing.
2254 [16:09:46] <vandman> I did that on the VM.
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2257 [16:10:53] <vandman> I saw in CentOS this line: /usr/bin/mysql_install_db --defaults-file="$conffile"
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2260 [16:11:02] <vandman> but not in Debian?
2261 [16:11:31] <petn-randall> …
2262 [16:11:38] <petn-randall> vandman: Stop ignoring what I said.
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2264 [16:11:58] <annadane> vandman, you're repeating yourself - we're unlikely to know why such and such works in centos because most of us don't know centos
2265 [16:12:04] <vandman> mutante: yes
2266 [16:12:06] <annadane> the goal is to get it working in debian, not compare it to centos
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2268 [16:12:07] <babilen> Generally speaking you'd stop MySQL, copy content from /var/lib/mysql (or previous datadir) to the new location, adjust the setting and then start again
2269 [16:12:10] <petn-randall> vandman: You spent half an hour discussing something that can easily be resolved by adding a *single* task to your ansible role.
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2271 [16:13:10] <zodd> full paste: replaced-url
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2273 [16:13:57] <vandman> Creating the directory does not chage the result. the service wont start. I have already tryed.
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2275 [16:14:28] <babilen> vandman: Alternatively: Create datadir and run the /usr/bin/mysql_install_db --defaults-file="$conffile" command you identified as missing earlier
2276 [16:15:01] <vandman> I tryed to. But it says there is no socket
2277 [16:15:10] <greycat> zodd: well, it says it exited with status 0 (success), so you're going to have to figure out why the process did an exit(0); with no messages written to stdout or stderr
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2280 [16:15:23] <petn-randall> vandman: Then your problem is not the missing dir.
2281 [16:15:25] <babilen> vandman: Creating the directory alone is not sufficient, you will have to populate it with the necessary data. Debian does this during the installation of the package for /var/lib/mysql which is why it would, IMHO, be most idiomatic to mount whatever volume you want to use there
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2284 [16:16:01] <Andrew_0010bit> Neat! A new place to hang out.
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2286 [16:16:15] <vandman> That is what I need: populate it with the necessary data
2287 [16:16:15] <babilen> vandman: Did you also adjust the socket path in the MySQL configuration?
2288 [16:16:19] <zodd> greycat, ty, I was just wondering how to do that. As when I execute the ExecStart line manually from shell it all works fine
2289 [16:16:23] <annadane> Andrew_0010bit, leave now before the addiction takes root
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2292 [16:16:39] <Andrew_0010bit> That said, I was wondering if it is worth it to do a local repository for Debian like perhaps WSUS.
2293 [16:16:42] <Andrew_0010bit> LOL, annadane.
2294 [16:16:52] <babilen> vandman: Yes, and /usr/bin/mysql_install_db --datadir=/foo/bar/data does that
2295 [16:17:02] <Andrew_0010bit> like the Windows-equivalent WSUS*
2296 [16:17:12] <greycat> zodd: does it have its own log files somewhere that you can read?
2297 [16:17:16] <Andrew_0010bit> I found dak and whatnot, but I don't want like EVERY package. just some.
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2301 [16:19:01] <babilen> vandman: My recommendation would still be to: 1. Mount whatever you want to use to /var/lib/mysql 2. Run MySQL containerised and provide a suitable volume 3. Run MySQL in a VM where you can do 1.
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2304 [16:19:52] <zodd> greycat, there is in /var/log/varnish only a log of a related, yet, not configured package: varnishncsa
2305 [16:20:05] <vandman> Did you also adjust the socket path in the MySQL configuration? yes
2306 [16:20:38] <babilen> vandman: But if you want to use a different datadir on Debian you have to to: 1. Stop the service, create suitable directories and content (cf. /usr/bin/mysql_install_db and /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql*.postinst)
2307 [16:21:07] <babilen> Adjust the setting and then start it again
2308 [16:21:17] <babilen> Alternative copy data over from /var/lib/mysql
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2310 [16:21:46] <zodd> oh. And the logs are size=0
2311 [16:21:50] <vandman> /usr/bin/mysql_install_db --datadir=/datadir/my.cnf gives me an error: => "could not open required defaults file: /datadir/my.cnf"
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2314 [16:22:30] <babilen> vandman: --datadir does not take the path to the defaults file, but the path to the datadir
2315 [16:23:39] <babilen> Please refer to the mysql_install_db manpage, which mentions settings such as --defaults-file=filename -- I'd also recommend to read the postinst script I referenced earlier
2316 [16:24:01] <babilen> Still believe that the easiest approach is to keep /var/lib/mysql and to simply bind mount your volume there
2317 [16:24:18] <babilen> (or mount)
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2320 [16:26:23] <babilen> You could also get fancy and deploy a policy-rc.d file that prevents MySQL from starting, let postinst run, move data from /var/lib/mysql to your desired location, restore policy-rc.d and then start the service .. but that's getting a bit ridiculous and unidiomatic
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2322 [16:26:58] <babilen> So: Either use the data generated by the postinst script or generate it yourself
2323 [16:27:55] <vandman> OK, /usr/bin/mysql_install_db --datadir=/datadir worked, the directory is field with mysql, performance_schema.
2324 [16:28:00] <babilen> You have those two options. If you decide to use the first you have to either use /var/lib/mysql as datadir or move the content of that directory elsewhere. If you decide to generate it yourself you have to figure out the exact incantation of /usr/bin/mysql_install_db (and other) commands
2325 [16:28:15] <vandman> the service is not loading. It fail
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2327 [16:28:32] <babilen> Did it drink to much Bunnahabain?
2328 [16:28:36] <babilen> *too
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2341 [16:39:08] <vandman> Does the "mysql_install_db" create a new empty database each time it is called?
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2380 [17:01:53] <mrtnt> Is it possible to have both firefox-esr:amd64 and firefox-esr:i386 installed in the same system?
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2382 [17:02:26] <greycat> "Try it and see" "Why"
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2391 [17:07:54] <jelly> mrtnt: no. That package is not multiarch coinstallable. Probably no binary .deb that brings compiled executables can be made coinstallable.
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2393 [17:08:22] <greycat> Because they would both try to create /usr/bin/foobar and obviously dpkg won't let that happen.
2394 [17:08:31] <greycat> Which leaves "Why"
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2396 [17:08:54] <jelly> dpkg CAN let that happen if the packages bring the exact same file, and the control file mentions that fact
2397 [17:08:54] <dpkg> jelly: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request
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2399 [17:09:43] <jelly> I could hazard a guess for the "why" part, but why
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2406 [17:12:04] <Haohmaru> you know you're a debian h4x0r when you talk to dpkg, and dpkg talks back
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2408 [17:12:33] <greycat> It used to say "You are idiot #1", "You are idiot #2", etc.
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2410 [17:13:08] * jelly has an unholy mix of i386 and amd64 at home. apt just LOVES complaining when an i386 system only has util-linux:amd64 but not the Essential native one
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2414 [17:14:53] <mrtnt> ok, thanks!
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2520 [18:05:41] <furrymcgee> apt install libgcrypt20
2521 [18:07:25] <furrymcgee> apt install libgcrypt20-doc
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2523 [18:07:35] <greycat> you probably want a -dev package if you're compiling something
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2525 [18:08:04] <furrymcgee> see /usr/share/doc/libgcrypt20-doc/html/index.html
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2588 [18:39:37] <gutte_> ahh
2589 [18:39:42] <gutte_> debian
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2595 [18:41:06] <DarkiYahu> Hello there people
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2608 [18:47:14] <uniqdom> Hello, I want share access to my PC over VNC. I have created an user account and vnc is setup to use another DISPLAY. I need to show the login screen so the external user can login. how to do that?
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2649 [19:14:45] <volodim> hello
2650 [19:14:52] <volodim> i got an issue with pulseaudio
2651 [19:15:03] <volodim> can't kill it, keeps respawn, even with autospawn=no
2652 [19:15:09] <volodim> no sound at all
2653 [19:15:20] <volodim> pavucontrol can't connect
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2657 [19:15:50] <volodim> pulseaudio -D doesn't work : failed to start demon
2658 [19:16:16] <volodim> i've tried remove and reinstall it but no way
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2664 [19:18:59] <mfermin> Hello guys! I would like to set up a server at home for web hosting. Which version/fork of the Debian OS and applications would you recommend? It'll be mostly a LAMP Stack.
2665 [19:19:10] <greycat> Stable.
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2669 [19:20:35] <tharkun> !segy
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2671 [19:21:54] <jrgilman> Hey I'm trying to add a DPA (replaced-url
2672 [19:21:56] <tharkun> mfermin: take your pick and look around. Many use apache and IIRC it is to some extension installed by default on debian, but depending on what you want to run on top of it you might want something else
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2674 [19:22:39] <mfermin> @tharkun I Want to run Apache
2675 [19:22:48] <tharkun> !@
2676 [19:22:48] <dpkg> @ is used to separate the username from the hostname in an email address, to denote channel operators on IRC, and to direct comments to particular users in some web forums. It is NOT used to direct comments on IRC; use "name: ..." instead of "@name ...".
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2678 [19:23:44] <greycat> ,v php7.2-dev
2679 [19:23:45] <judd> Package: php7.2-dev on amd64 -- buster: 7.2.4-1+b2; sid: 7.2.4-1+b2
2680 [19:23:50] <mfermin> tharkun: I want to run Apache
2681 [19:24:08] <tharkun> jrgilman: cat /etc/debian_version
2682 [19:24:22] <jrgilman> 9.4
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2684 [19:24:45] <jrgilman> This is inside a docker container btw, if that matters
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2689 [19:25:30] <costello_> Dear Sirs, /usr/bin/g++-7 is in package g++-7, like /usr/bin/gcc-7 is in package gcc-7. /usr/bin/gcc-8 is in package gcc-8 but apt-cache finds no g++-8, in unstable. Is it really so that gcc-8 is there but there is no g++-8 ???
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2694 [19:27:14] <bites> ,v g++-8
2695 [19:27:16] <judd> Package: g++-8 on amd64 -- buster: 8.1.0-3; sid: 8.1.0-5
2696 [19:27:31] <bites> costello_: sure it wasn't a typo?
2697 [19:27:42] <costello_> I'm on i686, does that matter?
2698 [19:28:03] <bites> i don't think so, no.
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2701 [19:28:30] <greycat> Most likely your mirror simply isn't caught up yet. Give it a few minutes, apt-get update again.
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2704 [19:29:07] <costello_> Is it so that g++-8 arrived into repo just recently? I'm using those mirror-redirects in my apt.config..
2705 [19:29:27] <greycat> judd reported 8.1.0-5 so it's at least the 5th try
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2707 [19:29:40] <costello_> hahaa :)
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2709 [19:30:23] <bites> and it's built from the same source package as gcc
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2711 [19:31:52] <jrgilman> tharkun: any ideas? I may just grab the .deb manually and install it that way, just slightly annoying.
2712 [19:32:34] <greycat> jrgilman: there is no php7.2 in stable.
2713 [19:32:49] <jrgilman> greycat: I added another repo
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2715 [19:32:54] <greycat> *sigh*
2716 [19:32:57] <greycat> *plonk*
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2721 [19:33:48] <jrgilman> okay, so can you link me something to explain what I clearly don't understand
2722 [19:33:53] <jrgilman> or at least tell me what to search for
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2729 [19:36:29] <bites> jrgilman: what's the line you added to sources.list
2730 [19:36:39] <bites> jrgilman: did apt update complain about missing keys?
2731 [19:36:43] <jrgilman> deb replaced-url
2732 [19:36:50] <jrgilman> no
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2735 [19:37:06] <jrgilman> replaced-url
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2737 [19:37:24] <greycat> bites: I bet it's something like "replaced-url
2738 [19:37:44] <jrgilman> greycat: you're being extremely condescending
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2740 [19:38:39] <bites> so when you type in apt-cache policy php7.2-dev it shows nothing?
2741 [19:38:55] <bites> greycat: i guestt sury.org is one of the lesser evils if you really need it.
2742 [19:39:02] <bites> * guess
2743 [19:39:17] <jrgilman> I didn't know about policy, it indeed shows up
2744 [19:39:28] <bites> then what's the problem? :D
2745 [19:39:56] <jrgilman> replaced-url
2746 [19:40:37] <jrgilman> apt-cache search turns up nothing too
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2749 [19:40:55] <bites> and apt-cache policy does show a candidate? that would be very strange.
2750 [19:41:00] <jrgilman> yep
2751 [19:41:25] <jrgilman> replaced-url
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2753 [19:41:35] <jrgilman> oh wait
2754 [19:41:39] <jrgilman> a "candidate"
2755 [19:41:43] <jrgilman> so i guess not
2756 [19:41:54] <user03_> hello, postfix is not writing to /var/log/mail.log there is no mail.log file, what can i do?
2757 [19:42:03] <jrgilman> but it is under the version table
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2759 [19:42:12] <greycat> Make sure rsyslog is installed and running.
2760 [19:42:13] <bites> wonder why it doesn't take is as a candidate. the pinning looks normal.
2761 [19:42:32] <jrgilman> does it matter than this is in a docker container?
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2763 [19:42:44] <bites> don't think so. it shouldn't.
2764 [19:42:54] <jrgilman> That's what I thought I guess
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2766 [19:43:10] <bites> is it the base stretch container?
2767 [19:43:18] <jrgilman> no php:7.2-apache
2768 [19:43:28] <bites> ah
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2770 [19:43:43] <jrgilman> replaced-url
2771 [19:43:47] <jrgilman> It's based on debian:stretch-slim
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2774 [19:45:05] <jrgilman> Let me try to start a clean instance of this image and try again
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2783 [19:47:04] <ewtvb> hello. anyone have experience with setup hashcat on debian 9 stretch? also i might installed bumble in past ..
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2789 [19:47:36] <ewtvb> PS: I joined #hashcat but asking here too because if someone might know...
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2791 [19:48:03] <jgkamat> Hey, I have a really horrible question. Lets say Debian 9 upgraded a package which broke something so I must downgrade it to the oldstable version. Whats the best way to go about doing this? I could add the old repo and pin the package to that repo, but that seems very hacky...
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2796 [19:48:29] <greycat> If it's just one package with no other deps needed, you could download it from packages.debian.org by hand.
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2798 [19:49:09] <jgkamat> greycat: wouldn't the package get upgraded on the next upgrade or dist upgrade though? I could pin it somehow I guess
2799 [19:49:18] <greycat> Otherwise, you can add a standard jessie line to sources.list and apt-get install it that way. No pinning needed.
2800 [19:49:27] <greycat> !hold
2801 [19:49:27] <dpkg> hold is a status flag that tells the package manager to not automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package 'echo $package hold|dpkg --set-selections' or 'aptitude hold $package'. Note that "aptitude hold" is ignored by other package managers (i.e. Update Manager, synaptic, apt-get) and aptitude won't necessarily use holds set with dpkg; see Debian bug #137771 (fixed in stretch). See also <hold list>, <unhold>.
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2805 [19:50:08] <jrgilman> bites: same crap
2806 [19:50:37] <bites> jrgilman: i'm checking it out, download takes a minute.
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2810 [19:50:50] <jrgilman> thanks a ton for your help
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2812 [19:51:25] <jgkamat> greycat: ah, hold was what I was looking for, thanks :)
2813 [19:51:34] <jrgilman> I'm using the script he has in the README: replaced-url
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2815 [19:51:49] <jrgilman> well
2816 [19:51:53] <jrgilman> just the last 4 lines
2817 [19:51:54] <jrgilman> but yeah
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2826 [19:56:44] <ewtvb> i think my debian works fine rather than windows because i dont have gpu drivers. :<
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2830 [19:57:51] <bites> jrgilman: yeah, they did something to the apt preferences. in /etc/apt/preferences.d you will find a config that manipulates the pinning of all packages php* remove that then it works again. i'm sure they had a reason to put it there, but then you will have to ask the creator of that image.
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2834 [19:59:53] <jrgilman> well then
2835 [20:00:02] <jrgilman> thanks a ton for the help, I never would have figured this out on my own
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2838 [20:00:14] <bites> no problem, i was curious.
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2845 [20:02:07] <bites> jrgilman: well, the reason is obviously to prevent you from installing php7.0 from the debian repositories and break their 7.2 installation.
2846 [20:02:25] <jrgilman> yeah, that's logical
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2867 [20:16:21] <k3rn3lpan1c> Pardon me if this has been discussed here already. When using DHCP, dhclient usually rewrites resolv.conf and I know I don't have my "nameserver" pointing to my gateway IP including "search" directive to "lan". Where is this coming from and how can I modify this? Updating /etc/resolv.conf gets re-written after reboot. I'm using debian 9 stretch
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2869 [20:18:03] <somiaj> you can modify dhclient to tell it what to add, or you can use some third party tool like resolvconf or openresolv to help manage /etc/resolv.conf
2870 [20:18:21] <somiaj> for dhclient, check /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
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2887 [20:28:01] <k3rn3lpan1c> somaij: even after modifing my /etc/resolv.conf it gets prepended with my gateway ip and search "lan"
2888 [20:28:55] <k3rn3lpan1c> somaij: my /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf is standard config nothing much to see there
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2890 [20:29:28] <greycat> !fix resolv.conf
2891 [20:29:28] * dpkg takes resolv.conf to the vet for a "special" visit.
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2893 [20:29:57] <greycat> !fixresolvconf
2894 [20:29:57] <dpkg> To fix your /etc/resolv.conf: edit /etc/dhcp{,3}/dhclient.conf to include the nameservers you want to use (ask me about <override dns>). Alternatively, use <resolvconf> and specify the nameservers yourself: echo -e "nameserver a.b.c.d\nnameserver w.x.y.z" > /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base; resolvconf -u (where a.b.c.d and w.x.y.z are your ISPs nameservers). Also ask me about <fixresolvconf the ugly way>.
2895 [20:30:15] <greycat> !fixresolvconf the ugly way
2896 [20:30:16] <dpkg> If you can't be bothered configuring either <resolvconf> or your DHCP client to properly handle your DNS settings, then you can do this: echo -e "nameserver a.b.c.d\nnameserver w.x.y.z" > /etc/resolv.conf && chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf (where a.b.c.d and w.x.y.z are your ISPs nameservers). But realise that this is a truly ugly hack.
2897 [20:30:43] * greycat disagrees about about ugly part.
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2900 [20:32:45] <greycat> When NetworkManager on a Centos-derivative box decided to completely wipe ALL but comments from the resolv.conf file, did I waste hours trying to figure out how CentOS works, and then how NetworkManager works, and then how this derivative of CentOS works? Nope!
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2904 [20:33:35] <greycat> vi + chattr means it's fixed, right now, for good, on ANY linux box, no worries about future upgrades or "did I miss this one bizarre corner case".
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2908 [20:35:04] <k3rn3lpan1c> dpkg: maybe I am missing something here but I have modified my /etc/resolv.conf with the nameservers that I want which is sticking, what's irratating to me is the line that gets prepended to w/ nameserver to my gateway IP
2909 [20:35:04] <dpkg> k3rn3lpan1c: what are you talking about?
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2912 [20:36:50] <k3rn3lpan1c> including "search lan". I want to remove these entries permanently
2913 [20:37:19] <greycat> The easy way would be to make sure /etc/resolv.conf is a plain file and not a symlink, edit it, and then chattr +i it.
2914 [20:37:36] <greycat> The hard way is to try to untangle all that other crap.
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2916 [20:38:15] <k3rn3lpan1c> greycat: oh so delete the symlink and create new /etc/resolv.conf file?
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2918 [20:38:45] <greycat> Those two steps *alone* are not enough.
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2920 [20:39:32] <greycat> If the resolvconf package is installed and is currently managing the file, then you can configure resolvconf the way you like, if you don't want to do the chattr.
2921 [20:39:57] <greycat> resolvconf is the second easiest way.
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2924 [20:41:33] <petn-randall> k3rn3lpan1c: It's most likely coming from your DHCP server.
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2939 [20:48:57] <uniqdom> I'm using debian stretch. I have opened a new DISPLAY (:2), i have launched an xterm there. How can i launch a full desktop enviroment (cinnamon or gnome) from there?
2940 [20:49:10] <uniqdom> startx?
2941 [20:49:59] <greycat> Run whatever command it is to start the GNOME session. Which I think is "gnome-session".
2942 [20:50:04] <greycat> Inside the xterm.
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2947 [20:51:55] <uniqdom> gnome-session shows this: replaced-url
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2950 [20:52:34] <uniqdom> oh no! something gone wrong. A problem has ocurred and the system can't recover. Please log out and try again. And there is a Log Out button.
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2954 [20:53:26] <greycat> Someone who knows GNOME better than I will have to confirm, but maybe your alternative display (:2) doesn't have all the stupid-fancy-crap features that GNOME wants to use.
2955 [20:53:56] <greycat> Oftentimes, displays other than :0 are missing video driver acceleration or something.
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2957 [20:54:02] <k3rn3lpan1c> greycat: ok installed resolvconf and after install it has symlined to /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf...
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2960 [20:54:33] <k3rn3lpan1c> greycat: let me modify and reboot and see if this sticks
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2962 [20:54:55] <greycat> replaced-url
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2964 [20:55:09] <greycat> If you choose to use resolvconf, you have to configure it.
2965 [20:55:22] <greycat> I said it was the *second* easiest.
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2970 [20:57:41] <limbo_> lxd init isn't able to create a virtual network interface, saying the address: "10.0.0.1" is already in use. Any ideas what might be wrong? error message to follow
2971 [20:58:03] <limbo_> " Error: Failed to create network 'lxdbr0': Failed to run: dnsmasq --strict-order --bind-interfaces --pid-file=/var/snap/lxd/common/lxd/networks/lxdbr0/dnsmasq.pid --except-interface=lo --interface=lxdbr0 --quiet-dhcp --quiet-dhcp6 --quiet-ra --listen-address=10.0.0.1 --dhcp-no-override --dhcp-authoritative --dhcp-leasefile=/var/snap/lxd/common/lxd/networks/lxdbr0/dnsmasq.leases
2972 [20:58:09] <limbo_> --dhcp-hostsfile=/var/snap/lxd/common/lxd/networks/lxdbr0/dnsmasq.hosts --dhcp-range 10.0.0.2,10.255.255.254,1h -s lxd -S /lxd/ --conf-file=/var/snap/lxd/common/lxd/networks/lxdbr0/dnsmasq.raw -u nobody: dnsmasq: failed to create listening socket for 10.0.0.1: Address already in use "
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2974 [20:59:00] <petn-randall> limbo_: It might help, for readibility purposes, to use a paste site. The other reason is the bot might kick you if you paste too much in the channel.
2975 [20:59:19] <limbo_> petn-randall: I thought it'd fit into one line. one second....
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2977 [20:59:37] <petn-randall> limbo_: dnsmasq: failed to create listening socket for 10.0.0.1: Address already in use
2978 [21:00:03] <petn-randall> limbo_: ^^^ That's your problem right there. You've already got a daemon, possibly another dnsmasq, already listening there.
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2982 [21:00:51] <limbo_> replaced-url
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2984 [21:01:09] <limbo_> ifconfig doesn't show anything on 10.0.0.1.
2985 [21:01:41] <petn-randall> limbo_: ifconfig only shows you interface config. To see which daemons are listening where, you need to run 'netstat -npl'.
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2988 [21:03:04] <limbo_> same deal. Nothing on 10.x.x.x (unless you count 0.0.0.0)
2989 [21:03:06] <greycat> or "ss -lt" or similar
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2992 [21:03:59] <petn-randall> limbo_: Can you paste the command + output?
2993 [21:04:26] <limbo_> which command?
2994 [21:04:47] <petn-randall> limbo_: 'netstat -npl'
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3000 [21:06:08] <limbo_> here's the internet part: replaced-url
3001 [21:06:50] <uniqdom> is there a log of this channel somewhere?
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3003 [21:07:15] <uniqdom> a few minutes ago I said: I'm using debian stretch. I have opened a new DISPLAY (:2), i have launched an xterm there. How can i launch a full desktop enviroment (cinnamon or gnome) from there?
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3006 [21:07:40] <uniqdom> i have run gnome-session in that display
3007 [21:07:48] <uniqdom> gnome-session shows this: replaced-url
3008 [21:07:53] <uniqdom> oh no! something gone wrong. A problem has ocurred and the system can't recover. Please log out and try again. And there is a Log Out button.
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3010 [21:08:23] <petn-randall> limbo_: So you got something running on 0.0.0.0:53, that's blocking it.
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3012 [21:08:35] <uniqdom> I have clicked that button, it has log me out in that display, and in :0 (my current display)
3013 [21:08:36] <limbo_> uniqdom: startx, maybe.
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3022 [21:09:17] <limbo_> petn-randall: oh, cool. Can I restart the DNS server after creating the interface?
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3030 [21:10:18] <petn-randall> limbo_: Maybe? I don't know what your goal is.
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3062 [21:11:57] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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3072 [21:12:45] <k3rn3lpan1c> petn-randall: I haven't configured my DHCP to point my namserver to my gateway IP.
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3078 [21:13:06] <greycat> *did* you configure the DHCP server at all? or is it just doing its factory default?
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3082 [21:13:47] <limbo_> petn-randall: I'm running a DNS server on the server, I want the containers on that server to be able to access the internet (NAT/proxy/whatever), and still have the DNS server work.
3083 [21:13:54] <limbo_> Should work though.
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3096 [21:17:48] <bites> the dns server shouldn't matter, the dhcp server that you seem to have running on that machine seems to be the problem.
3097 [21:18:37] <bites> in case it is dnsmasq, pretty sure dhcp is disabled by default.
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3099 [21:19:20] <petn-randall> k3rn3lpan1c: Then I recommend fixing the DHCP server instead of doctoring the symptoms.
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3101 [21:20:00] <petn-randall> limbo_: Then you need to configure lxc to not spawn it's own dnsmasq, and configure yours to do whatever lxc's would od.
3102 [21:20:03] <petn-randall> *do.
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3104 [21:20:20] <uniqdom> starx shows me this replaced-url
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3106 [21:20:58] <uniqdom> when trying to run it in another display
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3109 [21:24:26] <uniqdom> startx finally terminated with this message: Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console replaced-url
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3111 [21:24:38] <ewtvb> how to see which gpu drivers i have?
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3117 [21:26:14] <greycat> find your Xorg.0.log file, read it, and see which video driver self-identifies itself most frequently
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3132 [21:34:15] <blaztek> uniqdom: does it work is you don't use gdm? I mean startx and then on :3?
3133 [21:35:05] <blaztek> s/is/if/
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3136 [21:35:27] <Inconvenience> helo gaize
3137 [21:35:31] <Inconvenience> o/
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3140 [21:36:50] <k3rn3lpan1c> i did but my dumb DHCP router doesn't have DNS options, instead configured my network manager, nm-connection-editor for my dns settings
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3143 [21:39:18] <limbo_> petn-randall: Can I just configure my regular dns server to not bind to port 53 on 10.0.0.1?
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3148 [21:43:32] <styks198-> anyone know offhand what replaced parted move in 3?
3149 [21:43:52] <ewtvb> greycat: i dont have it
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3151 [21:44:07] <ewtvb> oh nvm
3152 [21:44:32] <annadane> styks198-, what are you referring to when you say 3?
3153 [21:44:46] <styks198-> annadane: parted v3
3154 [21:44:57] <annadane> ,v parted
3155 [21:44:58] <judd> Package: parted on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.3-12; jessie: 3.2-7; stretch: 3.2-17; buster: 3.2-21+b1; sid: 3.2-21+b1
3156 [21:45:15] <greycat> Shit, who killed dpkg?
3157 [21:45:23] <ewtvb> what
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3159 [21:45:51] <styks198-> 3.2-17
3160 [21:46:00] <ewtvb> 3
3161 [21:46:02] <ewtvb> 2
3162 [21:46:03] <ewtvb> 1
3163 [21:46:13] <annadane> styks198-, i still don't understand your question
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3165 [21:46:24] <ewtvb> annadane: you are a bot?
3166 [21:46:27] <jhutchins_wk> judd: v parted
3167 [21:46:28] <windblow> hi, ~/.xsession defines which window manager xdm runs, right?
3168 [21:46:28] <judd> Package: parted on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.3-12; jessie: 3.2-7; stretch: 3.2-17; buster: 3.2-21+b1; sid: 3.2-21+b1
3169 [21:46:35] <styks198-> “ the following commands were removed: check, cp, mkfs, mkpartfs, move, resize.”
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3171 [21:46:50] <windblow> the man page doesnt make it clear which configuration file it first loads, hence the question
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3174 [21:47:09] <jhutchins_wk> dondelelcaro: dpkg MIA
3175 [21:47:13] <greycat> windblow: replaced-url
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3177 [21:47:31] <styks198-> annadane: wondering how to move a partition with version 3
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3180 [21:47:42] <k3rn3lpan1c> wasn't me
3181 [21:47:58] <annadane> oh, compared to version 2... did you read the documentation?
3182 [21:48:00] <k3rn3lpan1c> ;-)
3183 [21:48:07] <bites> limbo_: are you using dnsmasq? you can make the dns server listen to a specific address.
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3185 [21:48:21] <annadane> anyway, a better question would be, "how do i move a partition with parted", your initial question was confusing
3186 [21:48:34] <annadane> if you're using debian stretch, you have parted version 3
3187 [21:48:46] <styks198-> annadane: yes, but I know hwo to move it in 2 just not in 3
3188 [21:48:49] <bites> limbo_: yours listens to 0.0.0.0:53 which is a problem. i take back what i said earlier.
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3190 [21:49:02] <ewtvb> greycat: any idea what these lines mean? [ 52.018] (II) modeset(0): Output eDP-1 has no monitor section [ 52.019] (II) modeset(0): Output HDMI-1 has no monitor section [ 52.020] (II) modeset(0): EDID for output eDP-1
3191 [21:49:06] <styks198-> I’m not seeing any reference to moving a partition in the docs
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3193 [21:49:57] <greycat> ewtvb: well, I believe it means you're using the modeset driver.
3194 [21:50:07] <ewtvb> what is that :O
3195 [21:50:11] <greycat> !modeset
3196 [21:50:16] <greycat> .... fuck, WHO KILLED DPKG
3197 [21:50:20] <ewtvb> topkek
3198 [21:50:23] <ewtvb> (meme here)
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3200 [21:51:06] <mutante> !fix dpkg
3201 [21:51:09] <windblow> thank you very much, greycat
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3204 [21:51:21] <ewtvb> !help
3205 [21:51:26] <ewtvb> lolllllllll
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3207 [21:51:56] <ewtvb> No such nick/channel: dpkg
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3209 [21:52:12] <mutante> @seen dpkg
3210 [21:52:13] <ewtvb> NOTE: The backup bots are not always online
3211 [21:52:43] <ewtvb> debhelper
3212 [21:52:46] <ewtvb> !debhelper
3213 [21:52:47] <annadane> dselect: modeset
3214 [21:52:48] <dselect> annadane: i don't know
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3216 [21:53:05] <ewtvb> !help debhelper
3217 [21:53:08] <mutante> dselect: !fix dpkg
3218 [21:53:08] <dselect> mutante: i haven't a clue
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3220 [21:53:17] <annadane> ewtvb, mutante, please don't spam
3221 [21:53:27] <ewtvb> annadane: mutante please don't spam
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3226 [21:54:28] <mutante> well, i wanted to actually test if it knows the !fix command ,because dpkg did
3227 [21:54:44] <ewtvb> !fix? the f*. lol
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3230 [21:55:13] <ewtvb> greycat: any idea how to install nvidia drivers for hashcat? im on debian 9 stretch... also i dont want something bad happen
3231 [21:55:27] <mutante> /last vet
3232 [21:55:30] <mutante> and you see
3233 [21:55:47] <annadane> what is hashcat
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3235 [21:56:30] <ewtvb> secret
3236 [21:56:31] <annadane> ewtvb, if you're on debian, install the nvidia-detect package and run it (not sure whether it has to be as root or not, try it as non root first) and it will tell you what you need
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3238 [21:57:03] <annadane> no it's not a "secret". we're not going to help you if you don't answer questions
3239 [21:57:29] <ewtvb> i have nvidia-settings though..
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3247 [21:58:18] <ewtvb> nvidia-detect No NVIDIA GPU detected.
3248 [21:58:20] <ewtvb> annadane: nvidia-detect No NVIDIA GPU detected.
3249 [21:58:29] <ewtvb> was running on root.
3250 [21:59:18] <uniqdom> blaztek: no, it doesn't work with startx.
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3253 [21:59:30] <annadane> what does lspci -nn | grep -i VGA say?
3254 [21:59:56] <ewtvb> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0416] (rev 06)
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3256 [22:00:03] <ewtvb> oh shit im old.
3257 [22:00:06] <ewtvb> 4th gen. :<
3258 [22:00:14] <ewtvb> what is the newest? 9?
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3262 [22:00:45] <annadane> then you don't need nvidia drivers...?
3263 [22:00:58] <ewtvb> why
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3265 [22:01:02] <ewtvb> i have nvidia gtx 860m........
3266 [22:01:03] <annadane> latest what? the latest debian is 9
3267 [22:01:13] <ewtvb> are you kidding me
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3269 [22:01:27] <ewtvb> 01:00.0 3D controller [0302]: NVIDIA Corporation GM107M [GeForce GTX 860M] [10de:1392] (rev ff)
3270 [22:01:33] <ewtvb> lspci -nn | grep -i nvidia
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3282 [22:05:59] <weenis> so fuckin hi on ZAN AX
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3293 [22:11:28] <OS-38594> hello
3294 [22:11:42] <OS-38594> i'm trying to do the buffer overflow lab on vulnserv.exe
3295 [22:12:00] <OS-38594> but when i do the mona modules command I see no process/dll that can be used
3296 [22:12:05] <weenis> dude im so hi
3297 [22:12:07] <annadane> that sounds not related to debian
3298 [22:12:10] <OS-38594> oh
3299 [22:12:11] <OS-38594> sorry
3300 [22:12:17] <OS-38594> i thought its offsec
3301 [22:12:18] <weenis> and i think this zanax makes my dick longer
3302 [22:12:23] <annadane> !ops ^
3303 [22:12:26] <annadane> sigh
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3305 [22:12:34] <weenis> hi greycat
3306 [22:12:37] <weenis> wanna touch it?
3307 [22:12:39] *** greycat sets mode: +q *!*@107.152.104.185
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3309 [22:12:52] <ewtvb> help.
3310 [22:13:33] <annadane> anyway, i don't know which nvidia package you need
3311 [22:13:38] <annadane> maybe someone else has a better idea
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3313 [22:13:47] <ewtvb> also i think i have Bumblebee
3314 [22:14:31] <greycat> If your lspci shows both Intel and Nvidia chipsets, then you probably do have some Optimus thing.
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3316 [22:14:59] <ewtvb> i have optirun
3317 [22:16:17] <jgkamat> I sometimes get that error when I upgrade kernel without rebooting, just making sure that's not the case for you
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3328 [22:19:58] <annadane> jgkamat, is this a question, or in response to a user? generally i think you should reboot after kernel upgrades
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3330 [22:20:28] <jgkamat> yah, that was in response to ewtvb, usually when I see that it means I just forgot to reboot :P
3331 [22:20:39] <ewtvb> what?
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3333 [22:21:01] <jgkamat> ewtvb: you're rebooting after installing bumblebee/nvidia drivers right?
3334 [22:21:13] <ewtvb> i installed bumblebee long time ago
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3336 [22:21:19] <ewtvb> i dont even remember how i did that.
3337 [22:21:29] <ewtvb> i have nvidia-settings, optirun. ...
3338 [22:21:32] <jgkamat> I hope it was from the repos :/
3339 [22:21:44] <ewtvb> repos of github or the apt?
3340 [22:21:47] <jgkamat> apt
3341 [22:21:51] <annadane> the debian repository
3342 [22:21:51] <ewtvb> not sure
3343 [22:21:59] <annadane> (apt)
3344 [22:22:01] <ewtvb> can i get help with it?
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3351 [22:23:46] <ewtvb> can i get help plz?
3352 [22:24:13] <jgkamat> I'm a bit confused where you're stuck
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3354 [22:24:25] <jgkamat> you want to get hashcat working? Do programs run with optimus right now?
3355 [22:24:26] <ewtvb> i want to make hashcat works
3356 [22:24:54] <ewtvb> i dont have optimus just optirun
3357 [22:25:13] <jgkamat> yah, that's what I meant. If you run hashcat with optirun does it work?
3358 [22:25:19] <ewtvb> hmm
3359 [22:25:43] <ewtvb> its not work.
3360 [22:25:44] <jgkamat> sometimes I've had better luck with primusrun
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3362 [22:25:54] <jgkamat> what does it say?
3363 [22:26:00] <ewtvb> clGetDeviceIDs(): CL_DEVICE_NOT_FOUND
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3368 [22:27:35] <ewtvb> optirun glxinfo | grep OpenGL | nc termbin.com 9999 replaced-url
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3377 [22:32:50] <jgkamat> it's possible your nvidia card isn't supported by hashcat either
3378 [22:32:55] <jgkamat> looks good to me at least
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3382 [22:33:46] <at0m> ,v irssi
3383 [22:33:47] <judd> Package: irssi on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.8.15-5; wheezy-security: 0.8.15-5+deb7u6; wheezy-backports: 0.8.17-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.8.17-1+deb8u5; jessie-security: 0.8.17-1+deb8u5; stretch: 1.0.2-1+deb9u3; jessie-backports: 1.0.7-1~deb9u1~bpo8+1; stretch-proposed-updates: 1.0.7-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 1.0.7-1~deb9u1; buster: 1.0.7-1+b1; sid: 1.0.7-1+b1
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3386 [22:34:09] <ewtvb> jgkamat: i got it work back on windows
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3388 [22:34:31] <jgkamat> ewtvb: are you using nvidia proprietary or nouveau
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3390 [22:34:40] <ewtvb> no idea
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3392 [22:35:03] <jgkamat> if you are using nouveau, it's probably missing features in nouveau or something
3393 [22:35:10] <ewtvb> how do i know?
3394 [22:35:51] <jgkamat> not sure, I don't have a nvidia card on me right now to test with
3395 [22:35:59] <jgkamat> you could check to see which driver packages are instaled
3396 [22:36:36] <jgkamat> (replaced-url
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3404 [22:40:14] <ewtvb> jgkamat: not sure
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3407 [22:41:30] <ewtvb> jgkamat: dpkg -l | grep nouveau ii libdrm-nouveau2:amd64 2.4.74-1 amd64 Userspace interface to nouveau-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime ii xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:1.0.13-3 amd64 X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver
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3410 [22:41:52] <jgkamat> do you have nvidia-driver installed (I think that's the proprietary one)
3411 [22:41:58] <ewtvb> jgkamat: replaced-url
3412 [22:42:17] <ewtvb> yes ii nvidia-driver 375.82-1~deb9u1 amd64 NVIDIA metapackage
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3414 [22:42:40] <ewtvb> wtf...
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3416 [22:42:41] <jgkamat> yah, no idea then, probably nvidia not supporting opencl on the linux drivers or something
3417 [22:42:48] <ewtvb> so weird
3418 [22:43:12] <ewtvb> jgkamat: replaced-url
3419 [22:44:03] <ewtvb> jgkamat: replaced-url
3420 [22:44:08] <ewtvb> i have libopencl
3421 [22:44:25] <jgkamat> yah, no clue then, I don't think a blind reinstall will help you
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3425 [22:44:51] <ewtvb> im afraid to break the ssystem but i want to make hashcat work..
3426 [22:44:58] <annadane> what actually shows up if you update-alternatives --config glx?
3427 [22:44:59] <ewtvb> ohSHIT
3428 [22:45:11] <ewtvb> by accident i run find / -name libOpenCL\* -print0 | xargs -0 rm -rf
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3431 [22:45:46] <at0m> ewtvb: first, install nvidia-detect. that will tell you what nvidia version driver supports the card.
3432 [22:46:07] <at0m> ewtvb: then remove all the others and install that one.
3433 [22:46:15] <ewtvb> i installed nvidia-detect. nothing it shows!
3434 [22:46:17] <ewtvb> at0m: ^
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3437 [22:47:00] <at0m> ewtvb: uh. no "Detected NVIDIA GPUs" ?
3438 [22:47:17] <ewtvb> yes
3439 [22:47:22] <ewtvb> No NVIDIA GPU detected.
3440 [22:47:38] <at0m> yet lspci shows nvidia?
3441 [22:48:02] <ewtvb> yes
3442 [22:48:16] <ewtvb> 01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107M [GeForce GTX 860M] (rev ff)
3443 [22:48:42] <jgkamat> maybe nvidia-detect won't work on optimus or something
3444 [22:49:00] <at0m> jgkamat: it does here
3445 [22:49:19] <ewtvb> nvidia hate linux
3446 [22:49:53] <at0m> ewtvb: neither GM107M or 860M show up in apt search.
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3453 [22:51:28] <at0m> so even if nvidia-detect saw it, it's not supported by any even proprietary nvidia drivers i think.
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3457 [22:53:33] <ewtvb> nvidia-detect is just a bash script
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3463 [22:55:33] <at0m> so i find 860M as supported hw in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-driver/README.txt.gz for nvidia driver version 390.48
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3465 [22:56:03] <ewtvb> i found this replaced-url
3466 [22:56:15] <at0m> ,v nvidia-driver
3467 [22:56:17] <judd> Package: nvidia-driver on amd64 -- wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.102-1~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.102-1; jessie-proposed-updates/non-free: 340.106-1; stretch/non-free: 375.82-1~deb9u1; jessie-backports/non-free: 384.130-1~bpo8+1; stretch-proposed-updates/non-free: 384.130-1; stretch-backports/non-free: 390.48-2~bpo9+3; buster/non-free: 390.48-3; sid/non-free: 390.59-1
3468 [22:56:24] <uniqdom> xinit was the trick. startx and gnome-session wasn't working.
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3470 [22:56:25] <at0m> apt install nvidia-driver =)
3471 [22:57:12] <greycat> If he really needs 390.48 then he'd want the stretch-backports one. Unless he's not in stretch.
3472 [22:57:32] <ewtvb> at0m: ??
3473 [22:57:41] <jgkamat> it's also possible it's installed but blacklisted
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3475 [22:57:44] <at0m> greycat: well, no, but 390.48 is what i have and which has that /usr/share/doc/nvidia-driver/README.txt.gz
3476 [22:58:28] <ewtvb> SO MANY ISSUES replaced-url
3477 [22:58:47] <at0m> maybe someone on stable can zgrep 860M /usr/share/doc/nvidia-driver/README.txt.gz
3478 [22:59:15] <greycat> s/on stable/on stable who has nvidia-driver/
3479 [22:59:21] <at0m> right
3480 [22:59:47] <annadane> /who hates their life and thus has an nvidia card
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3484 [23:00:24] <ewtvb> nvidia is piece of shit. hope they will die
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3489 [23:01:59] <at0m> how about you try to install (or download the .deb and have dpkg extract it) nvidia-driver yourself, and then zgrep 860M /usr/share/doc/nvidia-driver/README.txt.gz
3490 [23:02:31] <ewtvb> and how that will hlep me?
3491 [23:02:42] <greycat> The goal is to determine what driver to use.
3492 [23:02:43] <at0m> if it lists that driver, it supports your card
3493 [23:03:00] <greycat> If your card is listed in the stretch nvidia-driver docs, then use that. Maybe.
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3495 [23:03:08] <at0m> *if it lists that card, it supports your card
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3498 [23:04:11] <at0m> if it doesn't, you still got your intel gfx like you may have now and nothing is lost
3499 [23:04:41] <greycat> ... if it doesn't appear in the docs for the stretch driver, then you can try the stretch-backports driver, which at0m says DOES list your card
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3501 [23:05:12] <greycat> (Beyond that, I know nothing about these Optimus things.)
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3503 [23:05:35] <ewtvb> at0m: zgrep 860M /usr/share/doc/nvidia-driver/README.txt.gz GeForce GTX 860M 119A D GeForce GTX 860M 1392 D GeForce GTX 860M 139B 1028 06A3 D
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3505 [23:05:45] <at0m> yay
3506 [23:05:51] <ewtvb> interesting zgrep command
3507 [23:06:07] <at0m> ewtvb: see zcat, zless etc
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3509 [23:06:18] <ewtvb> so now what?
3510 [23:06:45] <at0m> now you have a driver that supports your nvidia card.
3511 [23:06:59] <ewtvb> ok..
3512 [23:07:01] <at0m> update-alternatives --config glx
3513 [23:07:05] <ewtvb> what?
3514 [23:07:06] <annadane> now you throw out your computer with the nvidia card and write an angry letter telling nvidia not to be jerks and support open s... i mean, now you can progress with the solution to your problem
3515 [23:07:06] <at0m> like annadane suggested
3516 [23:07:24] <at0m> and select the nvidia driver instead of the nouveau driver
3517 [23:07:34] <ewtvb> annadane: there are a lot people who use linux for bitcoin mining. yet nvidia not help support.
3518 [23:07:51] <ewtvb> at0m: how do i do?
3519 [23:08:09] <at0m> update-alternatives --config glx
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3522 [23:08:29] <at0m> once more, and you may donate your first mined coin to debian.org
3523 [23:08:43] <ewtvb> update-alternatives --config glx There are 3 choices for the alternative glx (providing /usr/lib/glx). Selection Path Priority Status ------------------------------------------------------------ * 0 /usr/lib/nvidia/bumblebee 125 auto mode 1 /usr/lib/mesa-diverted 5 manual mode 2 /usr/lib/nvidia 100 manual mode 3 /usr/
3524 [23:08:52] <ewtvb> sorry. i forget how to paste
3525 [23:09:05] <ewtvb> update-alternatives --config glx There are 3 choices for the alternative glx (providing /usr/lib/glx). Selection Path Priority Status ------------------------------------------------------------ * 0 /usr/lib/nvidia/bumblebee 125 auto mode 1 /usr/lib/mesa-diverted 5 manual mode 2 /usr/lib/nvidia 100 manual mode 3 /usr/
3526 [23:09:10] <ewtvb> shit. omg sorry.replaced-url
3527 [23:09:45] <annadane> isn't one bitcoin something silly like 25,000 dollars
3528 [23:09:51] <nbm> which package contains the official debian wallpapers with the swirl and all that?
3529 [23:10:03] <ewtvb> annadane: it is now less.
3530 [23:10:10] <at0m> annadane: that should cover support
3531 [23:10:12] <ewtvb> and it was never 25k. it was 19.6k max
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3533 [23:10:27] <ewtvb> now its more less.
3534 [23:10:36] <ewtvb> at0m: did you see it?
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3536 [23:10:53] <annadane> nbm, there's a few packages, not sure it's just one package... you can apt search wallpaper and choose between those
3537 [23:11:23] <annadane> the swirl is pretty common, xfce uses it as default, mate uses it as default
3538 [23:11:31] <nbm> yep
3539 [23:11:42] <nbm> and gnome-wallpaper package comes with nature photos
3540 [23:11:46] <annadane> xfce manages to look terrible as default but that's off-topic...
3541 [23:11:47] <at0m> ewtvb: pick the bumblebee.
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3543 [23:11:57] <ewtvb> at0m: its already picked?
3544 [23:12:10] <ewtvb> also i ran it as non-root.
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3546 [23:12:24] <annadane> update-alternatives needs to be run as root
3547 [23:12:32] <at0m> well to just show you don't need root. so you're good to go.
3548 [23:12:42] <ewtvb> ok:)
3549 [23:12:45] <annadane> and then just reboot
3550 [23:12:51] <ewtvb> again, it is already chose.
3551 [23:13:03] <ewtvb> bumblebee is already chose
3552 [23:13:20] <at0m> ewtvb: but the driver has just been installed, and set it to that. it may not be loaded for now
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3554 [23:13:54] <ewtvb> i didnt install anything
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3557 [23:14:31] <at0m> does "/etc/init.d/bumblebeed status" say its running ok?
3558 [23:14:52] <annadane> at0m, every time i see your name i think of the atom text editor :P
3559 [23:15:05] <at0m> isnt me
3560 [23:15:11] <ewtvb> at0m: yes
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3562 [23:15:31] <greycat> I keep thinking of the Intel Atom CPU
3563 [23:15:45] <greycat> must be the context
3564 [23:15:52] <at0m> there's lots of atoms
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3566 [23:16:07] <at0m> ewtvb: cos then it is. and you need to prepend commands using the nvidia card with optirun, like "optirun firefox". for mining, read their docs eh
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3568 [23:16:35] <ewtvb> at0m: you are not clear. i tried optirun hashcat but its not work
3569 [23:16:59] <at0m> whats not work? no output? no error?
3570 [23:17:09] <ewtvb> same error
3571 [23:17:18] <ewtvb> clGetDeviceIDs(): CL_DEVICE_NOT_FOUND
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3574 [23:18:28] <at0m> first results on replaced-url
3575 [23:18:34] <at0m> maybe some other X app?
3576 [23:19:37] <ewtvb> replaced-url
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3578 [23:19:49] <at0m> optirun xeyes :D
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3642 [23:52:21] <Jaxx_> Hi all. i havent installed debian yet,but hopefully i will. but i got 1 issue with it
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3649 [23:54:43] <annadane> Jaxx_, okay, what's the issue?
3650 [23:54:47] <Jaxx_> When i try install debian and try the advanced options and then expert,I get this issue: replaced-url
3651 [23:55:02] <Jaxx_> *expert install
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3653 [23:56:18] <Jaxx_> i tried every option in the "Advanced options" and get the same issue
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3659 [23:57:48] <annadane> oh dear
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3662 [23:58:50] <mutante> Jaxx_: there is "Expert Install" and separately "Graphic Expert Install" right. tried both of them yet?
3663 [23:59:03] <mutante> Graphical
3664 [23:59:13] <Jaxx_> Yes.. all these options there get the same issue. not same colour though,but same issue
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3666 [23:59:43] <Jaxx_> And i did use this downloadlink: replaced-url
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