People who Joins , Parts or Quits a chatroom
this is #debian an IRC -Channel at freenode (freenode IRC service closed 2021-06-01)
0 [00:00:07] <scwizard> so when I send emails to debian-cloud@lists.debian.org
1 [00:00:11] *** Quits: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2 [00:00:13] <scwizard> does anyone actually get them?
3 [00:00:20] *** Joins: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip )
4 [00:01:05] *** Quits: frazr (~nik@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
5 [00:01:19] <rant> scwizard: presumably anyone subscribed to that list would get them
6 [00:01:38] <scwizard> then why no reply :(
7 [00:02:12] <rant> "Either they don't know, they don't show, or they just don't care (about being a menace to south central while they drink their juice in the hood)"
8 [00:02:36] <scwizard> this page lists us-east-2 twice and us-east-1 0 times :( replaced-url
9 [00:03:36] *** Joins: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip )
10 [00:03:36] *** Quits: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
11 [00:03:36] *** Joins: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip )
12 [00:03:50] *** Quits: derpy (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
13 [00:03:55] *** Joins: derpy (~quassel@replaced-ip )
14 [00:05:09] *** Quits: toruvinn (~toruvinn@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
15 [00:05:27] *** Quits: hph^ (~hph@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
16 [00:06:12] *** Quits: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
17 [00:06:41] <crimson_king> I can print, but scanner doesn't show up here on GNOME's default scanning app, what could it be?
18 [00:07:11] <crimson_king> "No scanner available" it says
19 [00:07:30] *** Quits: Bookin (~Bookin@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.1)
20 [00:07:44] <rant> crimson_king: is it an all-in-one? hp?
21 [00:07:47] <crimson_king> yes
22 [00:07:52] *** Joins: toruvinn (~toruvinn@replaced-ip )
23 [00:08:02] <rant> crimson_king: have you installed the hpijs software?
24 [00:08:08] <crimson_king> no, nothing
25 [00:08:14] <crimson_king> wait a sec
26 [00:08:37] <rant> I've not had any issues with an HP device using their packages provided by debian
27 [00:08:51] <crimson_king> what is the name of the package?
28 [00:08:58] <crimson_king> of what I must install
29 [00:09:04] <rant> ,i hpijs
30 [00:09:05] <judd> No package named 'hpijs' was found in stretch/amd64.
31 [00:09:06] *** Quits: derpy (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
32 [00:09:14] <crimson_king> I found printer-driver-hpijs
33 [00:09:20] <crimson_king> is this it?
34 [00:09:33] <rant> ,i hplip
35 [00:09:34] <judd> Package hplip (utils, optional) in stretch/amd64: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). Version: 3.16.11+repack0-3; Size: 141.3k; Installed: 316k; Homepage: replaced-url
36 [00:09:47] *** Joins: Bookin (~Bookin@replaced-ip )
37 [00:09:55] *** Quits: edgars (~edgars@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
38 [00:10:06] *** Quits: CtrlC (~CtrlC@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
39 [00:10:12] <rant> it'll give you a blue HP icon in your notification area, and a HP settings tool for configuring HP print/scan/fax stuff
40 [00:10:23] *** Joins: derpy (~quassel@replaced-ip )
41 [00:10:35] <crimson_king> will gnome's simple scan work afterwards?
42 [00:10:54] <crimson_king> I prefer the cleanest approach there is, using whatever is default instead of adding more
43 [00:11:16] <rant> it should.. the driver you mentioned is probably all you NEED but then you gotta do all the config yourself.. hplip handles all that, you never have to touch any cups/sane stuff
44 [00:11:29] <crimson_king> all right, i'll try
45 [00:11:42] <rant> it also allows you to monitor ink levels and all that kinda crap
46 [00:12:49] *** Quits: freddy_fcch (~freddy_fc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
47 [00:15:31] *** Joins: CtrlC (~CtrlC@replaced-ip )
48 [00:15:36] *** Quits: RedSoxFan07 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
49 [00:15:50] *** Quits: Yo[w] (~Yoann@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
50 [00:17:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1544
51 [00:19:13] <crimson_king> hplip was already installed. The only 'hpijs' I see here is hpijs-ppds
52 [00:20:12] <crimson_king> that printer-driver-hpijs was already installed as well
53 [00:20:37] *** Quits: BlueByte_ (~walther@replaced-ip ) (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
54 [00:21:53] *** Quits: KindaNoob (4d52554e@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ##replaced-url
55 [00:22:21] *** Quits: czesmir (~stefan@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
56 [00:22:39] *** Quits: towo` (~towo@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
57 [00:23:33] *** Quits: Bry2k200 (~bry2k200@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
58 [00:23:39] *** Quits: psmolen (~psmolen@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
59 [00:24:00] *** Joins: jarlaxl (~blt@replaced-ip )
60 [00:24:36] *** Joins: Cuechan (~paul@replaced-ip )
61 [00:25:55] <rant> run the hplip tool then hp-toolbox
62 [00:26:45] *** Quits: finlstrm (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
63 [00:26:45] *** Joins: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip )
64 [00:26:51] *** Quits: hele (~hele@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
65 [00:27:13] <rant> the only thing I had issues with was getting send to pc to work on those wireless setups.. the acquiring from the linux side always worked fine
66 [00:27:31] *** Quits: treehug88 (~textual@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Textual IRC Client: ##replaced-url
67 [00:28:44] *** Joins: annadane (~annadane@replaced-ip )
68 [00:29:53] <rant> I wonder what genius named that "HP Linux Printing and Imaging" instead of "HP Linux Imaging and Printing" considering its HPLIP not HPLPI
69 [00:30:09] *** Joins: nuuuciano__ (~luuuciano@replaced-ip )
70 [00:32:59] *** Joins: finlstrm (~quassel@replaced-ip )
71 [00:33:00] <crimson_king> do I need Xsane for simple scan to work?
72 [00:33:35] <crimson_king> I found some tools that start with hp, such as hp-check. It shows a lot of errors, mostly missing packages
73 [00:34:02] <crimson_king> xsane is one of them. "xsane needs to be installed" it says
74 [00:35:02] *** Joins: Ridout (coffee@replaced-ip )
75 [00:35:18] *** Joins: sz0 (uid110435@replaced-ip )
76 [00:37:58] <hypn0> simple-scan works here
77 [00:38:53] <hypn0> or did in 8, haven't tried in 9 yet :-)
78 [00:39:03] *** Quits: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
79 [00:40:12] *** Quits: mel00010 (~mel00010@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
80 [00:40:14] <crimson_king> I'll reboot and try some packages on my own. If I get it working, I'll make sure to let you know how
81 [00:40:21] <hypn0> I think you only need the sane library
82 [00:40:41] *** Quits: crimson_king (~crimson_k@replaced-ip ) (Quit: crimson_king)
83 [00:41:09] *** Joins: freddy (~freddy_fc@replaced-ip )
84 [00:41:10] *** Quits: ragedragon (~ragedrago@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
85 [00:41:32] *** freddy is now known as Guest17381
86 [00:43:56] *** Joins: sibyakin (~sibyakin@replaced-ip )
87 [00:44:30] *** Joins: deznuts (uid92154@replaced-ip )
88 [00:44:38] *** Joins: voidSurf_ (~voidSurfr@replaced-ip )
89 [00:45:27] *** Quits: voidSurfr (~voidSurfr@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
90 [00:46:30] *** Quits: jarlaxl (~blt@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
91 [00:48:16] *** Quits: fujisan (uid4207@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
92 [00:48:38] *** Quits: Schmetterwurm (~Schmetter@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
93 [00:48:55] *** Joins: mel00010 (~mel00010@replaced-ip )
94 [00:50:17] <Azrael_-> would you suggest to go for bacula 9 instead of 7.4 for a new productive installation?
95 [00:51:20] *** Quits: mibo (~mibo@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
96 [00:51:47] *** Quits: dolphy (~kramer@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
97 [00:53:38] *** Joins: cib6335__ (~chris@replaced-ip )
98 [00:54:11] *** Joins: rpifan (~rpifan@replaced-ip )
99 [00:54:56] *** Quits: epony (~nym@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
100 [00:55:15] *** Joins: epony (~nym@replaced-ip )
101 [00:57:17] *** Quits: Korigan (~Korigan@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
102 [00:57:34] *** Joins: cCkw (~ejakuk@replaced-ip )
103 [00:57:43] *** Quits: boturk (boturk@replaced-ip ) (Quit: I'm out)
104 [00:58:31] *** Joins: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip )
105 [00:58:35] *** Joins: shellclear (~shellclea@replaced-ip )
106 [00:58:36] *** Quits: shellclear (~shellclea@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
107 [00:59:20] *** Quits: cib6335__ (~chris@replaced-ip ) (Quit: cib6335__)
108 [00:59:52] *** Quits: Bookin (~Bookin@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.1)
109 [00:59:53] <michael2> hi all. I have urxvt set to use URxvt.font: xft:Monospace:pixelsize=15
110 [01:00:05] <michael2> but when I run `fc-list' I dont see "Monospace" or "xft" in the output, why is that?
111 [01:00:40] *** Quits: nuuuciano__ (~luuuciano@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
112 [01:00:46] <michael2> how do I identify/list out the font that rxvt uses out of the list of installed fonts
113 [01:02:15] *** Joins: Namll (~user@replaced-ip )
114 [01:02:25] *** Joins: Bookin (~Bookin@replaced-ip )
115 [01:03:12] *** Quits: mel00010 (~mel00010@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
116 [01:04:07] *** Joins: watsonjar3 (~watsonjar@replaced-ip )
117 [01:04:11] *** Quits: rek (~rek@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
118 [01:04:31] *** nik_ is now known as frazr
119 [01:05:49] <frazr> Anyone had problems with settings http/https proxy settings via terminal?
120 [01:05:58] <frazr> /etc/environment doesn't seem to work
121 [01:06:16] <frazr> fucking chrome, refuses to apply the proxy
122 [01:06:23] <SlidingHorn> !language | frazr
123 [01:06:43] <frazr> heckin poo chrome refuses to apply the proxy
124 [01:07:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1538
125 [01:07:08] *** Quits: brokencycle (~brokencyc@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
126 [01:09:33] *** Quits: Cuechan (~paul@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Cuechan)
127 [01:09:51] *** Joins: iflema (~ian@replaced-ip )
128 [01:10:25] *** Quits: Comstock (~Comstock@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
129 [01:11:44] <frazr> tried all possible solutions now, nothing seems to work
130 [01:11:46] <frazr> bu-hu
131 [01:12:24] *** Joins: Comstock (~Comstock@replaced-ip )
132 [01:13:59] *** Joins: relaxed (~relaxed@replaced-ip )
133 [01:14:37] *** Joins: dethos (~dethos@replaced-ip )
134 [01:14:58] *** Quits: RebelCoder (~RebelCode@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
135 [01:16:41] *** Joins: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip )
136 [01:17:14] *** Quits: vivid (~ViViD@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
137 [01:18:10] *** Quits: mandeep (mandeep@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
138 [01:19:22] *** Joins: vivid (~ViViD@replaced-ip )
139 [01:19:47] <michael2> proxy settings are hard - and non obvious
140 [01:20:30] <michael2> are you disabling proxing for any hosts?
141 [01:20:32] *** Joins: czart_ (~czart@replaced-ip )
142 [01:20:47] <michael2> e.g. localhost, 127.0.0.1?
143 [01:21:56] <michael2> are you using the correct protocol ? i.e. is SOCKS being applied to your connections?
144 [01:22:15] *** Quits: ephemer0l_ (~ephemer0l@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ##replaced-url
145 [01:23:35] *** Joins: ephemer0l_ (~ephemer0l@replaced-ip )
146 [01:23:52] <frazr> michael2: yeah its http&https proxy, running privoxy
147 [01:24:08] <frazr> works fine testing in firefox
148 [01:24:15] *** Joins: Neomex (~quassel@replaced-ip )
149 [01:24:22] *** Quits: czart (~czart@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
150 [01:24:32] <michael2> but you dont want to use firefox?
151 [01:24:36] <frazr> no :)
152 [01:25:05] <frazr> ideally i'd simply run https_proxy=blabla chrome or chrome --proxy-server=blabla
153 [01:25:13] <frazr> should work, but doesnt
154 [01:25:24] <michael2> can you netstat active connections? is chrome connecting to your local SOCKS entry point?
155 [01:25:37] *** Quits: hypn0 (~h@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
156 [01:26:19] <michael2> what if you configure through the GUI? what about if you run in incognito mode or in a different chrome user account?
157 [01:26:46] <frazr> dont have any gui for that
158 [01:27:00] <frazr> unless theres some simple gtk app that does that
159 [01:27:10] <frazr> probably is.. :)
160 [01:27:33] <michael2> are you running headless chrome?
161 [01:27:52] <frazr> like starting with --incognito ?
162 [01:28:09] *** Quits: r00tobo (~r00tobo@replaced-ip ) (Quit: See you later)
163 [01:28:19] <frazr> unless its a default arg no
164 [01:28:36] <michael2> I dont know how to start incognito from command line
165 [01:28:37] *** Quits: fp7 (~fp7@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
166 [01:28:57] *** Quits: scwizard (4672cac2@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Page closed)
167 [01:28:57] <frazr> thats how u do it
168 [01:29:05] <frazr> didnt work , can try with the env vars too
169 [01:29:50] <frazr> nopes :
170 [01:29:51] <frazr> :/
171 [01:30:12] <michael2> yeah, it seems thats how you do it - not surprising it didn't work though...
172 [01:30:35] <michael2> are you running headless chrome? why don't you have GUI menu?
173 [01:31:43] <frazr> hmm
174 [01:31:44] *** Quits: Haudegen (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
175 [01:31:48] *** Joins: erasmus (~erasmus@replaced-ip )
176 [01:31:50] <frazr> i guess its chrome thats shit
177 [01:31:55] <frazr> tried curl ifconfig.co
178 [01:32:00] <frazr> and thats proxied
179 [01:32:35] <frazr> sigh..
180 [01:33:15] *** Quits: WhatisRT (~whatisrt@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
181 [01:34:42] *** Quits: electro33 (uid613@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
182 [01:34:56] *** Joins: Dragon092 (~Dragon@replaced-ip )
183 [01:34:57] *** Quits: kliq (~cliq@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
184 [01:35:21] *** Quits: xet7 (~xet7@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
185 [01:35:35] *** Quits: nighty-- (~nighty@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke)
186 [01:36:16] <cef> frazr: tried running chrome directly with `--proxy-server=host:port` on the command line to ensure chromes proxy support isn't just totally broken?
187 [01:36:57] *** Quits: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
188 [01:37:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1530
189 [01:37:11] <frazr> cef: yup
190 [01:38:09] <cef> frazr: only thing I could suggest in the meantime then is using that, maybe pass $http_proxy on the command line so it's the same system wide var.
191 [01:38:11] <frazr> seems like it takes proxy settings from the DE
192 [01:38:26] <frazr> since im running a faily uncommon one i guess it doesnt know where to look
193 [01:38:59] <frazr> tried both setting in environment and passing when executing chrome and exporting in session
194 [01:39:05] <frazr> dont know if theres any other way :)
195 [01:39:39] <cef> if it's just one user, chrome has settings in it somewhere for proxies
196 [01:39:41] *** Joins: crimson_king (~crimson_k@replaced-ip )
197 [01:39:55] <cef> better if it just worked the other way tho.
198 [01:39:57] <frazr> i dont think it has ?
199 [01:40:04] <frazr> it just opens up gsettings when in gnome for example
200 [01:40:42] <crimson_king> After installing everything related to HPLIP and trying the GUI, I still can't scan. Here's the result of hp-check: replaced-url
201 [01:41:00] <crimson_king> PS: I don't have non-free enabled
202 [01:41:18] <cef> frazr: Ahh yeah, you're right.. here it opens NetworkManager. hrm
203 [01:41:35] *** Quits: watsonjar3 (~watsonjar@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
204 [01:41:41] <frazr> replaced-url
205 [01:41:46] *** Joins: electro33 (uid613@replaced-ip )
206 [01:42:03] <frazr> Should work to set via --proxy-server, since it clearly says that
207 [01:42:33] *** Joins: kone (~kone@replaced-ip )
208 [01:42:59] *** Joins: KindaNoob (4d52554e@replaced-ip )
209 [01:43:24] *** Parts: vadmeste (~anis@replaced-ip ) ()
210 [01:43:34] <KindaNoob> How make script run at log on?
211 [01:45:40] <frazr> Use google
212 [01:46:40] <annadane> i don't think telling people to use google is especially helpful
213 [01:47:06] *** Quits: eshlox (uid44222@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
214 [01:47:25] <SlidingHorn> KindaNoob: what desktop environment/window manager are you using?
215 [01:48:46] *** Quits: Namll (~user@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
216 [01:49:19] *** Quits: crimson_king (~crimson_k@replaced-ip ) (Quit: crimson_king)
217 [01:49:20] <frazr> No its not, and for basic questions that you could find the answer in 10 seconds you shouldnt be helpful either, had this discussion before
218 [01:49:31] *** Quits: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
219 [01:49:44] *** Quits: Ridout (coffee@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
220 [01:50:06] * kot rolls eyes
221 [01:51:10] <frazr> Last time i was complaining about that myself in this same channel i believe, but got convinved that it does no good answering those types of questions
222 [01:51:13] <frazr> roll away
223 [01:51:20] <KindaNoob> SlidingHorn xfce
224 [01:52:14] <kot> fine, then don't. just don't tell others what not to do.
225 [01:52:54] <KindaNoob> I tried rc.local, but it doesn't work
226 [01:53:06] *** Quits: Noldorin (~noldorin@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
227 [01:53:34] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
228 [01:53:38] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
229 [01:53:38] *** Quits: Tom__ (~tomg@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
230 [01:53:53] *** Joins: Ridout (coffee@replaced-ip )
231 [01:54:15] *** Joins: M6HZ (~M6HZ@replaced-ip )
232 [01:54:43] <annadane> devils advocate position is 1) this is a _help channel_ and 2) using google is often wrong
233 [01:54:54] <annadane> search result: ubuntu forums from 7 years ago, no longer relevant
234 [01:55:16] *** Quits: erasmus (~erasmus@replaced-ip ) (Quit: END702)
235 [01:56:14] *** Joins: c0dex1 (~c0dex1@replaced-ip )
236 [01:56:17] <annadane> 3) now is a noob (self professed in their name) supposed to know which of the search results is correct?
237 [01:56:18] <SlidingHorn> KindaNoob: easy method - Menu > Settings Manager > Session and Startup > Application Autostart tab
238 [01:56:26] *** Quits: Al_lA (~derwhalfi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
239 [01:56:33] <annadane> there you go: someone gave a concrete answer
240 [01:56:45] <annadane> don't punish the newbies; punish the people who should know better
241 [01:57:03] <annadane> s/now/how
242 [01:57:08] *** Quits: preview (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
243 [01:57:24] <frazr> Learning by trial and error and reading like we all did, but whatever you keep on filling up the channel with discussions of that nature
244 [01:57:56] <KindaNoob> So there is no common solution?
245 [01:58:06] *** Quits: Brigo (~Brigo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
246 [01:58:09] *** Quits: wgas (~wgas@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
247 [01:58:21] <annadane> i think the CLI approach is to run it as a cron job
248 [01:58:24] *** Joins: Al_lA (~derwhalfi@replaced-ip )
249 [01:58:45] *** Joins: wgas (~wgas@replaced-ip )
250 [01:58:48] <annadane> there's possibly a GUI frontend for it
251 [01:59:26] <rjsalts> I don't think there is an event for login with cron, just @reboot
252 [01:59:28] <KindaNoob> does cron have event-based launch?
253 [02:00:06] <SlidingHorn> KindaNoob: There are other ways, but I figured that the option I provided would be the easiest
254 [02:00:20] *** Quits: Psy-Q (~psy-q@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
255 [02:00:22] <rjsalts> man 5 crontab suggests no
256 [02:00:36] <annadane> i thought it did, maybe not
257 [02:01:07] *** Quits: de-facto (~de-facto@replaced-ip ) (Quit: See you around.)
258 [02:01:16] <rjsalts> you can do private systemd units iirc
259 [02:01:26] *** Joins: de-facto (~de-facto@replaced-ip )
260 [02:01:30] *** Joins: Psy-Q (~psy-q@replaced-ip )
261 [02:01:48] <rjsalts> replaced-url
262 [02:02:28] *** Quits: candidat (~zark@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
263 [02:03:04] *** Quits: zZzZzZ (~zZzZzZ@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
264 [02:03:05] *** Quits: Brain (~brain@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
265 [02:03:36] *** Joins: GenTooMan (~cyberman@replaced-ip )
266 [02:03:57] *** Quits: CaptainN (zelda@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
267 [02:04:14] *** Quits: thiras (~thiras@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
268 [02:04:18] *** Joins: Brain (~brain@replaced-ip )
269 [02:04:47] *** Quits: paraxial (~paraxial@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds))
270 [02:05:08] *** Joins: paraxial (~paraxial@replaced-ip )
271 [02:05:14] *** Quits: ald3baran (uid231815@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
272 [02:05:53] *** Joins: stunder (~stunder@replaced-ip )
273 [02:05:57] *** Joins: gjt343 (~gjt@replaced-ip )
274 [02:07:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1523
275 [02:07:43] *** Quits: orbiter (~orbiter@replaced-ip ) ()
276 [02:09:57] *** Quits: shinnya (~shinnya@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
277 [02:10:10] *** Quits: vivid (~ViViD@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
278 [02:12:08] *** Joins: Namll (~user@replaced-ip )
279 [02:12:24] *** Joins: dreamon_ (~dreamon@replaced-ip )
280 [02:12:34] *** Quits: Rogalian (~cools@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
281 [02:12:57] *** Quits: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
282 [02:13:36] *** Joins: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip )
283 [02:13:56] *** Joins: impy (~textual@replaced-ip )
284 [02:15:12] *** Joins: Tom__ (~tomg@replaced-ip )
285 [02:15:44] *** Quits: kone (~kone@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
286 [02:16:06] *** Quits: dreamon__ (~dreamon@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
287 [02:16:16] *** Joins: Rogalian (~cools@replaced-ip )
288 [02:16:40] <impy> hi does anyone know how I can get Debian to dump core on seg faults for applications? I've tried ulimit -c unlimited and changed limits.conf also but to no avail
289 [02:17:22] <impy> actually; ignore me, it seems to have now worked
290 [02:18:02] *** Joins: thiras (~thiras@replaced-ip )
291 [02:18:49] *** Quits: apt (ibot@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
292 [02:19:01] *** Joins: rasusto (~rasusto@replaced-ip )
293 [02:19:24] *** Quits: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
294 [02:19:54] *** Joins: apt (ibot@replaced-ip )
295 [02:19:56] *** Joins: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip )
296 [02:20:11] *** Quits: duckydan (~duckydan@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
297 [02:20:34] *** Joins: erasmus (~erasmus@replaced-ip )
298 [02:22:01] *** Joins: iLogic (~logico@replaced-ip )
299 [02:24:23] *** Joins: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
300 [02:25:35] <iLogic> hey guys i was trying to setup a wlan connection on debian jessie and couldnt figure why until i saw on the ping output the static ip i had setup for eth0, lo and behold after i ifdown eth the wlan started working.. any clues why?
301 [02:25:54] *** Quits: rpifan (~rpifan@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
302 [02:27:54] *** Quits: a_l_b (~a_l_b@replaced-ip ) (Quit: a_l_b)
303 [02:29:05] *** Quits: Nekojimi (~jimj316@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
304 [02:30:29] *** Quits: well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
305 [02:31:14] *** Joins: eamanu (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
306 [02:34:53] *** Joins: kone (~kone@replaced-ip )
307 [02:35:04] *** Quits: iLogic (~logico@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
308 [02:35:05] *** Joins: iLogic (~logico@replaced-ip )
309 [02:37:02] *** Quits: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
310 [02:37:03] *** Quits: Namll (~user@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ERC (IRC client for Emacs 25.1.1))
311 [02:37:23] *** Quits: gjt343 (~gjt@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
312 [02:37:40] *** Joins: nuuuciano__ (~luuuciano@replaced-ip )
313 [02:41:14] *** Quits: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
314 [02:42:12] *** Quits: oerheks (~oerheks@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
315 [02:43:07] *** Joins: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip )
316 [02:45:50] *** Quits: Vizva (~Vizva@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
317 [02:46:08] *** Quits: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
318 [02:46:30] *** Joins: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip )
319 [02:48:36] *** Quits: p8m (~p8m@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
320 [02:48:51] *** Joins: humain (~humain@replaced-ip )
321 [02:49:18] *** Quits: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: pax)
322 [02:49:34] *** Joins: p8m (~p8m@replaced-ip )
323 [02:49:49] *** Parts: humain (~humain@replaced-ip ) ()
324 [02:50:20] *** Joins: redd (~redd@replaced-ip )
325 [02:53:49] *** Quits: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
326 [02:54:48] *** Quits: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
327 [02:55:42] *** Quits: psychicist__ (~psychicis@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
328 [02:55:59] *** Joins: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip )
329 [02:57:43] <rant> iLogic: probably due to the routing table
330 [02:58:39] <rant> if it were setup properly it'd work with both interfaces configured
331 [02:58:45] *** Joins: Moobius (~Moebius@replaced-ip )
332 [02:58:51] <Moobius> hello
333 [02:59:17] *** Quits: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
334 [02:59:25] *** Quits: Gaaab (~Gaaab@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
335 [02:59:26] <Moobius> why is there eye strain under any linux distribution?
336 [03:00:21] <Moobius> this is unrelated to video drivers, particular graphics mode, monitor or fonts.
337 [03:00:36] *** Quits: c0dex1 (~c0dex1@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
338 [03:01:06] <rant> its said that one cannot look upon the face of God and live.. maybe you're just not able to withstand the awesomeness of linux
339 [03:01:28] *** Joins: zZzZzZ (~zZzZzZ@replaced-ip )
340 [03:01:47] <Moobius> that's not an answer of course
341 [03:02:25] <Moobius> i have a better theory: perhaps your eyes are already so much destroyed you can't tell the difference anymore
342 [03:02:43] <rant> to paraphrase deep thought, I'm pretty sure thats the answer, you just need to figure out what the question is
343 [03:02:59] <Moobius> it's pretty much out there.
344 [03:03:19] *** Joins: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip )
345 [03:03:26] <Moobius> unless you just want to play some typical mind games like pro vs amateur
346 [03:03:27] <rant> yeah a really vague question followed by all the primary answers ruled out
347 [03:03:29] <Moobius> not gonna work this time
348 [03:03:55] <Moobius> it's not vague, it's just what there is. I can't give you more, because linux won't let me to
349 [03:04:10] <rant> if you've ruled out all the typical causes of eye strain, then you're just kinda linux bashing
350 [03:05:11] <rant> its not merely that I am not interested in taking this seriously, I just dont see how to approach it as such within the perameters
351 [03:05:45] <Moobius> neither do i, otherwise i would have probably found the answer myself a long time ago
352 [03:05:54] <rant> my thoughts would be things like luminence both from the screen and surroundings, font sizes, antialiasing, refresh rate..etc
353 [03:06:15] <Moobius> my question is addressed to those who may have been puzzled like me some time back but then found a solution. In other words who are actually familiar with the issue
354 [03:06:20] <rant> distance from the screen and so on
355 [03:06:45] <Moobius> fonts got nothing to do with it, like i said. Neither refresh rate, it's all good, 60hz, etc.
356 [03:06:47] *** Quits: impy (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
357 [03:06:59] <rant> oh I'm plenty familiar with such issues but in one case it was due to a faulty CRT monitor, another was due to crappy fonts..etc
358 [03:07:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1517
359 [03:07:01] <Moobius> i mean, if it was THAT simple i would never come in here and ask for help
360 [03:07:09] *** Joins: duckydan (~duckydan@replaced-ip )
361 [03:07:13] <Moobius> actually, there is no such issue on CRT monitor
362 [03:07:14] *** Joins: althalus (~althalus@replaced-ip )
363 [03:07:22] <Moobius> it only shows itself on LCD
364 [03:07:38] <rant> well in that case dot pitch and such also come to mind
365 [03:07:52] <rant> for me I was using a really large old montitor that just got the shakes sometimes
366 [03:08:00] <Moobius> and whenever people speak of fonts, it's just confusion. They get affected by one thing but failed to pinpoint it they readily accuse fonts. That's just not it
367 [03:08:15] <Moobius> one thing i can tell you, though i'm not sure it's any good
368 [03:08:24] *** Quits: dethos (~dethos@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
369 [03:09:23] <Moobius> I have no such issues on Windows of course, but whenever i'm on linux under X i notice that the colors don't exactly look the same as on Windows. They seem to be more saturated, which i believe could have something to do with dithering
370 [03:09:33] <Moobius> but then how would that cause eye strain?
371 [03:09:52] <rant> you already narrowed it down saying it happens on one kind of display and not another.. so its either that display or some configuration of it.. LCDs for one thing are far more flexible on things like dot pitch, aspect ratio, etc I can configure either of these two LCDs to 16:9, 5:4 4:3, etc when clearly they do HAVE a native res and aspect
372 [03:09:54] <kot> sounds like a psychological thing.
373 [03:10:06] *** Joins: handsome_feng (~feng@replaced-ip )
374 [03:10:11] <Moobius> i said it got nothing to do with the monitor because i've used another one before, same thing
375 [03:10:19] <Moobius> no, it's NOT a psychological thing
376 [03:10:23] <Moobius> let me show you something now
377 [03:10:41] <Moobius> replaced-url
378 [03:10:48] <rant> if it were a psychological thing, you'd be the last to know.. and your inability to accept the possiblity only reinforces the diagnosis
379 [03:10:51] <Moobius> this guy was having the same exacty problem
380 [03:11:01] <Moobius> exact*
381 [03:11:27] <Moobius> another dude with placebo syndrome
382 [03:11:42] <Moobius> why would people even think of it in the first place?
383 [03:11:54] <kot> sounds about right to me
384 [03:12:10] <rant> and different monitors don't matter if you're making the monitor attempt to render things in a way it wasnt designed for.. making this 24in TV I'm on now render this in the 5:4 ratio of the 17in monitor below it, would cause eye strain because this is not a 5:4 monitor even though it can technically display in that ratio
385 [03:12:15] *** Joins: mel00010 (~mel00010@replaced-ip )
386 [03:12:26] <eamanu> Hello everybody.. I have some problem with build package (wiht sbuild) Someone could help me, please?
387 [03:12:26] *** Quits: baptist (~baptsk@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
388 [03:12:35] <Moobius> i'm not doing anything with the monitor
389 [03:12:55] <Moobius> just using standard configuration by default, native resolution, native refresh rate.
390 [03:13:16] *** Quits: rafalcpp (~racalcppp@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
391 [03:13:39] <rant> how is it hooked up?
392 [03:13:39] <Moobius> and it's always the same thing - eye strain. Not immediately, no. After a little while it feels like i can't focus my sight on one point on the screen, it's like my eyes can no longer adjust properly
393 [03:13:50] <Moobius> next tip: go check your eyes
394 [03:14:02] <Moobius> only it doesn't happen on Windows
395 [03:14:14] *** Quits: cCkw (~ejakuk@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
396 [03:14:24] <kot> sounds like bs
397 [03:14:30] <Moobius> yeah yeah, ok
398 [03:14:35] <rant> for my example this tv is hooked up via HDMI to a DisplayPort.. which messes with detection.. and the dot pitch and resolution was not what I wanted initially
399 [03:14:54] *** Joins: cCkw (~ejakuk@replaced-ip )
400 [03:15:14] <Moobius> how about you psychologically adjusted your perception into thinking there are no problems which is why you're not experiencing any?
401 [03:15:25] *** Joins: crimson_king (~NEOalquim@replaced-ip )
402 [03:15:25] <Moobius> sounds pretty legit
403 [03:15:50] <kot> suits me ok
404 [03:16:06] *** Joins: dendazen (~dendazen@replaced-ip )
405 [03:16:18] <Moobius> well then at least don't call it bs, cause it can go both ways you know
406 [03:16:18] <rabbitea1_sdf> how do I 'git rm --cached' starting from current HEAD and just going all the way back, one by one?
407 [03:16:25] <rant> yeah, sounds more like philosophy to me.. and maybe you should try linux or hardware
408 [03:16:27] *** Quits: benrob0329 (~benrob032@replaced-ip ) (Quit: benrob0329)
409 [03:16:37] <Moobius> i will
410 [03:16:43] <Moobius> though i doubt it will be any different of course..
411 [03:16:54] <kot> true
412 [03:17:00] <rant> perhaps not, but try not ruling things out off the bad and let it go back to square one
413 [03:17:27] <rant> you're frustrated as most of us are when shit isnt workin right.. it gets in the way of people trying to figure stuff out
414 [03:17:54] <Moobius> problem is, this thing has been keeping me from using linux for YEARS
415 [03:18:16] <rant> I'd learn brail before I'd use windows again :P
416 [03:18:20] *** Quits: Ridout (coffee@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
417 [03:19:34] *** Quits: toorop (~toorop@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
418 [03:19:59] *** Quits: cCkw (~ejakuk@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
419 [03:20:27] <Moobius> i've googled the issue many times, been to many different boards, all i got is suspicions with regard to PWM, dithering, fonts and backlighting
420 [03:20:27] *** Quits: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
421 [03:21:07] <rant> Moobius: also a thought provided all you say is true.. maybe try running linux on various VM on TOP of windows or such rubish shit to rule things out
422 [03:21:13] <Moobius> a lot of times people would recommend flu.x or redshift to others, but that hardly does anything as it's obviously a case of misapplication
423 [03:21:29] <Moobius> oh, if run from vbox it's all perfect
424 [03:21:52] <rant> Moobius: because you can't say I have a problem with A B and C and its not A B or C.. you gotta accept the fact the monitor is a factor since you say it doesnt happen with CRT and if you say it works from VBOX you also can't say its not related to drivers..etc
425 [03:22:00] <Moobius> but then how does it help? i just know it uses Windows video output and therefore it's naturally eyestrain-free
426 [03:22:02] <rant> you're ruling things out based on rather fuzzy logic
427 [03:22:21] <Moobius> it's not the monitor but the INPUT
428 [03:22:41] <Moobius> how is my logic fuzzy here?
429 [03:22:41] *** Joins: CaptainN (zelda@replaced-ip )
430 [03:23:38] <Moobius> and obviously i have no idea how to adjust the input because the issue is unknown
431 [03:24:03] <rant> well again flipping this around like you been doing, perhaps its just perception on our part.. that you ask a question, without qualification of the hw and settings used, ruled out all the possible causes, then just say windows works, linux doesnt.. thats where we lose interest..
432 [03:24:33] *** Joins: hmcab (~hmcab@replaced-ip )
433 [03:24:36] <rant> because you've derailed any attempt to figure it out having apparently done it all already
434 [03:24:42] *** Quits: crimson_king (~NEOalquim@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
435 [03:25:08] <Moobius> well, i'm sorry, it's all i have at least to prove to you that i'm not making things up, and also i'm not the only one who is sensitive to it
436 [03:25:17] <Moobius> i wouldn't go as far as to claim that i've tried everything
437 [03:25:24] <rant> thus I say go back to square one, and try other more general channels since you can't really make this an issue scoped to this specific channel
438 [03:25:32] <Moobius> there is a lot of options one could use in xorg.conf alone
439 [03:25:38] *** Joins: toorop (~toorop@replaced-ip )
440 [03:25:48] <redd> if it works fine using a virtual driver but not with actual drivers, how is it not the drivers causing the issue?
441 [03:25:57] <rant> you might get some headway starting over from the beginning and not allowing prior data to interfere with a new attempt at troubleshooting
442 [03:26:20] <Moobius> Ok, suppose it's the drivers. Then what?
443 [03:26:46] <Moobius> I mean, do you suggest i should try using windows driver? :)
444 [03:27:42] <redd> try a manufacturer provided driver vs a reverse engineered one, or change hardware manu, so you're getting an entirely different driver
445 [03:28:12] <Moobius> which driver exactly are you talking about?
446 [03:28:16] *** Joins: joseluis (~joseluis@replaced-ip )
447 [03:28:27] *** Joins: nobodi (~nobodi@replaced-ip )
448 [03:28:48] <redd> the drivers for the display adapter
449 [03:29:01] <Moobius> ok, i always use proprietary one
450 [03:29:19] <rant> which driver are YOU talking about :P I can tell you right now schrodinger's cat is both alive and dead :P
451 [03:29:52] *** Joins: baptist (~baptsk@replaced-ip )
452 [03:30:00] *** Quits: snw (~snow_bcks@replaced-ip ) (Quit: User was destroyed by a weapon of mass destruction.)
453 [03:30:03] <Moobius> is there another one except video? There you go, i thought you offered something really original, but i was wrong ;)
454 [03:30:40] *** Joins: snw (~snow_bcks@replaced-ip )
455 [03:31:59] *** Quits: althalus (~althalus@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
456 [03:32:43] <redd> was that to me Moobius?
457 [03:32:51] <Moobius> no
458 [03:32:54] *** Quits: M6HZ (~M6HZ@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
459 [03:32:54] *** Joins: RedSoxFan07 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
460 [03:32:55] <redd> oki
461 [03:33:08] *** Joins: M6HZ (~M6HZ@replaced-ip )
462 [03:33:19] *** Joins: hph^ (~hph@replaced-ip )
463 [03:33:57] *** Quits: M6HZ (~M6HZ@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
464 [03:34:06] <Kelsar> yeah, as we all now, there is only one graphics card vendor!
465 [03:34:07] *** Quits: RedSoxFan07 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
466 [03:34:22] *** Quits: hph^ (~hph@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
467 [03:34:34] <Moobius> :/
468 [03:35:01] *** Joins: erdave (~erdave@replaced-ip )
469 [03:36:31] <Moobius> thank you for the discussion, i will be back later
470 [03:36:38] <redd> gl
471 [03:36:50] *** Quits: Moobius (~Moebius@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Cheer up! The less you have, the more there is to get!)
472 [03:39:29] *** Parts: joseluis (~joseluis@replaced-ip ) ("Leaving")
473 [03:39:34] *** Joins: impy (~textual@replaced-ip )
474 [03:41:50] *** Joins: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip )
475 [03:44:13] *** Joins: ketralnis (~ketralnis@replaced-ip )
476 [03:44:53] *** Joins: kisslo (~kisslo@replaced-ip )
477 [03:45:12] *** Quits: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
478 [03:46:22] *** Joins: holden- (~holden-@replaced-ip )
479 [03:47:02] *** Quits: mahe (~mahe@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
480 [03:47:59] *** Joins: chenchacha (~chenchach@replaced-ip )
481 [03:48:19] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
482 [03:48:19] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
483 [03:48:19] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
484 [03:48:34] *** Joins: mahe (~mahe@replaced-ip )
485 [03:49:23] *** Quits: kolla (~kolla@replaced-ip ) (Quit: %fog relay%)
486 [03:50:21] *** Joins: kolla (~kolla@replaced-ip )
487 [03:50:29] *** Quits: dendazen (~dendazen@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
488 [03:51:09] *** Joins: sidmo (~ilven@replaced-ip )
489 [03:51:29] *** Joins: dendazen (~dendazen@replaced-ip )
490 [03:51:30] *** Quits: karmavil (uid261628@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
491 [03:52:33] *** Parts: sm0rux (~sm0rux@replaced-ip ) ("Leaving")
492 [03:54:33] *** Quits: GenTooMan (~cyberman@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
493 [03:54:39] *** Quits: sidmo_ (~ilven@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
494 [03:55:56] *** Joins: rpifan (~rpifan@replaced-ip )
495 [03:57:24] *** Quits: Rogalian (~cools@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
496 [04:02:03] *** Quits: banc (~master@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - ##replaced-url
497 [04:04:29] *** Quits: Tom01 (~tom@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
498 [04:04:32] *** Quits: Tom__ (~tomg@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
499 [04:05:25] *** Quits: GenteelBen (~GenteelBe@replaced-ip ) ()
500 [04:06:40] *** Joins: superflit (~superflit@replaced-ip )
501 [04:07:09] *** Joins: dendazen_ (~dendazen@replaced-ip )
502 [04:07:23] <superflit> any smart way to migrate/backup a server from one VM provider to another? I want to keep it as similar as possible
503 [04:07:42] *** Quits: ranzpirat (~anon@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
504 [04:08:21] *** Joins: ranzpirat (~anon@replaced-ip )
505 [04:08:56] *** Joins: n0t3rm (~not3rm1@replaced-ip )
506 [04:09:00] *** Parts: n0t3rm (~not3rm1@replaced-ip ) ()
507 [04:10:02] *** Quits: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
508 [04:10:24] *** Quits: dendazen (~dendazen@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
509 [04:12:28] <somiaj> superflit: both debian?
510 [04:12:41] <superflit> somiaj: yes
511 [04:13:05] *** Quits: dowwie (~dowwie@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
512 [04:13:10] <somiaj> maybe something like this.
513 [04:13:13] <somiaj> !aptitude clone
514 [04:13:13] <dpkg> To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search --disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>.
515 [04:13:33] *** Quits: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
516 [04:13:34] *** Joins: id4rk_ (~id4rk@replaced-ip )
517 [04:13:35] <somiaj> that will ensure they have the same packages, though you may want to use rsync to copy configs and data between the two.
518 [04:15:14] *** Joins: BeamWatcher (~gashead76@replaced-ip )
519 [04:15:37] <annadane> mainly /etc, i'd think
520 [04:15:44] <annadane> or just cherry pick what you want
521 [04:15:59] * annadane personally never leaves over too many config files
522 [04:16:27] *** Joins: dowwie (~dowwie@replaced-ip )
523 [04:16:39] *** Quits: id4rk (~id4rk@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
524 [04:17:06] *** Joins: banc (~master@replaced-ip )
525 [04:17:37] <redd> can you not get the provider to clone/export appliance and drop it somewhere for you? or is that something they don't generally do (including new provider not installing custom images/appliances)? asking more out of curiousity than as a suggestion...
526 [04:18:12] *** Quits: kyubae (~kyubae@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
527 [04:19:17] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
528 [04:19:24] *** Quits: lilabsence (~RizzoTheR@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
529 [04:20:18] <redd> actually its not only probably offtopic for chan, but also detracting from helping someone so feel free to pm answer
530 [04:20:41] *** Joins: nighty- (~nighty@replaced-ip )
531 [04:21:39] *** Quits: finlstrm (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
532 [04:22:13] *** Joins: Ridout (coffee@replaced-ip )
533 [04:23:01] *** Quits: aielima (~aielima@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
534 [04:23:23] *** Quits: dendazen_ (~dendazen@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Textual IRC Client: ##replaced-url
535 [04:24:02] *** Quits: mel00010 (~mel00010@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
536 [04:25:24] *** Quits: Eduard_Munteanu (~Eduard_Mu@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
537 [04:25:32] <michael2> im trying to get set a font with xfontsel - but I cant copy the name to the clipboard. any ideas how to do that?
538 [04:26:15] <superflit> redd: can’t get a snapshot from provider
539 [04:26:28] <superflit> somiaj: thought about it.
540 [04:26:46] <superflit> indeed my plans was to rsync /etc, /usr /root, /home ...
541 [04:27:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1511
542 [04:27:14] <somiaj> superflit: I would just clone the package list, then copy the data, which includes cherry picking what you actually copy
543 [04:27:33] <superflit> somiaj: that seems reasonable
544 [04:27:44] *** Joins: finlstrm (~quassel@replaced-ip )
545 [04:28:28] *** Quits: jdaeira (~jdaeira@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
546 [04:31:55] *** Joins: mel00010 (~mel00010@replaced-ip )
547 [04:34:58] *** rainfyre_ is now known as rainfyre
548 [04:35:04] *** Quits: kisslo (~kisslo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
549 [04:35:09] *** Quits: toorop (~toorop@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
550 [04:35:57] *** Quits: annadane (~annadane@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
551 [04:36:02] *** Quits: bazabanga (~alex@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
552 [04:38:00] *** Joins: Eduard_Munteanu (~Eduard_Mu@replaced-ip )
553 [04:38:30] *** Quits: Ilyas (uid43013@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
554 [04:39:07] *** Joins: ralinux (~androirc@replaced-ip )
555 [04:39:17] *** Quits: ralinux (~androirc@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
556 [04:39:36] *** Quits: enki (~enki@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
557 [04:40:17] *** Joins: Have-Quick (~aaron@replaced-ip )
558 [04:40:21] *** Quits: Adbray (~Adbray@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Quit)
559 [04:40:36] *** Joins: ralinux (~androirc@replaced-ip )
560 [04:40:36] *** Joins: enki (~enki@replaced-ip )
561 [04:42:22] *** Joins: Tom__ (~tomg@replaced-ip )
562 [04:43:22] *** Joins: kisslo (~kisslo@replaced-ip )
563 [04:43:27] *** Quits: kisslo (~kisslo@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
564 [04:43:36] *** Joins: dendazen (~dendazen@replaced-ip )
565 [04:45:51] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
566 [04:46:14] *** Quits: hmcab (~hmcab@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
567 [04:46:27] *** Quits: nobodi (~nobodi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
568 [04:46:32] *** Joins: toorop (~toorop@replaced-ip )
569 [04:46:52] *** Quits: ralinux (~androirc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
570 [04:49:36] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
571 [04:49:54] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
572 [04:49:54] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
573 [04:49:54] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
574 [04:51:27] *** Quits: erdave (~erdave@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
575 [04:52:33] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
576 [04:52:59] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
577 [04:53:00] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
578 [04:53:00] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
579 [04:54:16] *** Joins: bzk89 (~OS-34800@replaced-ip )
580 [04:55:07] *** Joins: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip )
581 [04:55:46] *** Quits: kri (~kri@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
582 [04:57:15] *** Joins: kri (~kri@replaced-ip )
583 [05:00:00] *** Quits: cadillac_ (~omab@replaced-ip ) (Quit: I quit)
584 [05:00:48] *** Quits: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
585 [05:01:30] *** Joins: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip )
586 [05:02:15] *** Joins: llucenic (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
587 [05:02:27] *** Quits: amcorreia (~amcorreia@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
588 [05:02:58] *** Joins: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip )
589 [05:03:30] *** Quits: eamanu (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
590 [05:04:42] *** Joins: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip )
591 [05:05:04] *** Quits: _ADN_ (~username@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
592 [05:05:20] *** Quits: jticket (~jticket@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.7.0 - ##replaced-url
593 [05:05:24] *** Quits: holden- (~holden-@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
594 [05:07:39] *** Quits: philippirrip (~pip@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
595 [05:08:41] *** Joins: kalos (~kalos@replaced-ip )
596 [05:08:53] *** Quits: Graypup_ (Graypup@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.6.1 - ##replaced-url
597 [05:11:36] *** Quits: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
598 [05:11:46] *** Quits: rpifan (~rpifan@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
599 [05:12:42] *** Joins: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip )
600 [05:14:04] *** Joins: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip )
601 [05:15:02] *** Quits: id4rk_ (~id4rk@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
602 [05:16:20] *** Joins: nekOwO (4ba402b1@replaced-ip )
603 [05:16:33] *** Joins: id4rk_ (~id4rk@replaced-ip )
604 [05:18:35] *** Joins: cybiko123 (~cybiko123@replaced-ip )
605 [05:19:03] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
606 [05:19:57] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
607 [05:20:20] *** Joins: boris_t (~boris_t@replaced-ip )
608 [05:22:01] *** Quits: impy (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
609 [05:23:58] *** Joins: clay (~clay@replaced-ip )
610 [05:24:08] *** Quits: bertbob (~bertbob@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
611 [05:27:57] *** Quits: dreamon_ (~dreamon@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
612 [05:30:26] *** Joins: domovoy__ (~domovoy@replaced-ip )
613 [05:31:16] *** Quits: bestwin (~bestwin@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
614 [05:31:34] *** Joins: bestwin (~bestwin@replaced-ip )
615 [05:31:59] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
616 [05:32:00] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
617 [05:32:00] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
618 [05:33:28] *** Quits: srukle (~srukle@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
619 [05:33:39] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
620 [05:33:44] *** Quits: domovoy_ (~domovoy@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
621 [05:34:06] *** Quits: mnemonic (~semeion@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.1)
622 [05:34:22] *** Joins: justinus (c07a8329@replaced-ip )
623 [05:35:27] *** Quits: toorop (~toorop@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
624 [05:36:35] *** Quits: kallesbar (~kallesbar@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
625 [05:37:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1505
626 [05:37:36] *** Joins: Frank2 (~dd@replaced-ip )
627 [05:37:40] <Frank2> hello
628 [05:39:06] *** Quits: justinus (c07a8329@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ##replaced-url
629 [05:39:21] *** Quits: superflit (~superflit@replaced-ip ) (Quit: superflit)
630 [05:39:21] <nekOwO> Why is apt-get still included in Debian
631 [05:39:27] <nekOwO> I thought it was replaced by apt
632 [05:39:57] <Frank2> apt-get is a historically command
633 [05:40:02] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
634 [05:40:24] <nekOwO> Frank2: ???
635 [05:40:32] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
636 [05:40:36] *** Quits: erasmus (~erasmus@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
637 [05:40:51] <Frank2> apt-get is the classic packet manager in debian
638 [05:41:06] <nekOwO> but apt is objectively better
639 [05:41:16] <nekOwO> it's really just a waste of space
640 [05:41:42] <dvs> Debian is about choice.
641 [05:42:15] <nekOwO> Heh
642 [05:42:17] <nekOwO> hehe...
643 [05:43:57] <nekOwO> That's pretty bad reasoning for including 2 package managers
644 [05:44:02] <Frank2> I installed dovecot on my debian vps, but when I try to connect with netcat it answer me : ERR [AUTH] Plaintext authentication disallowed on non-secure (SSL/TLS) connections.
645 [05:44:19] <Frank2> how may I solve this problem ?
646 [05:44:56] *** Quits: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
647 [05:45:27] <dvs> nekOwO, there's more than two included
648 [05:45:44] <nekOwO> Fine, 3
649 [05:45:49] <nekOwO> dpkg is a nice thing to have
650 [05:45:50] <dpkg> nekOwO: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
651 [05:46:05] <Frank2> must I install secure connection ?
652 [05:46:10] <nekOwO> But apt-get is just wasted space
653 [05:46:13] *** Joins: [b0b] (~bob@replaced-ip )
654 [05:46:20] <nekOwO> Nobody who knows what they're doing uses apt-get
655 [05:47:05] *** Joins: toorop (~toorop@replaced-ip )
656 [05:47:15] <somiaj> apt-get is used in plenty of scripts, and needs to be installed
657 [05:47:23] <kot> i use mate de. why would other de's or window managers still be included?
658 [05:47:58] <SlidingHorn> kot: because you probably haven't uninstalled the ones you were previously using
659 [05:48:00] <nekOwO> kot: because some people don't like mate. but that isn't comparable to an objectively inferior package manager
660 [05:48:02] <somiaj> because of using apt-get in scripts, apt-get could not be changed, and had to matain a stable command line interface. apt was thus introduced for users, and isn't tied to having to have a stable interface and can also produce nice output.
661 [05:48:35] <nekOwO> Then we must focus on changing those scripts to apt
662 [05:48:50] *** Quits: b0b (~bob@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
663 [05:48:51] <somiaj> and there are more than two package mangers, there is apt (which is apt-get, apt, apt-cache, apt-file), aptitude, synamptic
664 [05:48:53] *** [b0b] is now known as b0b
665 [05:49:10] <somiaj> no, that is not going to work, apt is meant to be something that evolve, and not be used in scripts. apt and apt-get have different purposes.
666 [05:49:12] <nekOwO> aptitude isn't included by default
667 [05:49:51] <kot> good idea, nekOwO. you can get started right away. how long do you think it will take?
668 [05:50:07] <dvs> ...and my favorite: dselect!
669 [05:50:29] <somiaj> this is what happens if you try to pipe apt's output, "WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.", the reason apt-get couldn't be changed is because it needs a stable CLI interface. now having apt-get which has a stable CLI interface (and far more options and ability than apt) and apt which can evolve, and be simpler and more straight forward for users, and can change.
670 [05:51:15] <somiaj> so porting all the scripts to use apt, would force apt to have a stable cli interface (And have to disable all the fancy output), and thus jus tput apt in the same state apt-get was. They have different purposes, that is why they are both there, and they are both part of apt.
671 [05:52:22] <somiaj> also as I said, apt-get has features that apt doesn't. Features devs and scripts need, but not an end user manging software on their system.
672 [05:52:33] *** Joins: bnw (~bnw@replaced-ip )
673 [05:53:27] *** Quits: CaptainN (zelda@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
674 [05:54:40] <nekOwO> that's very unfortunate
675 [05:54:42] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
676 [05:54:43] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
677 [05:54:43] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
678 [05:55:15] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
679 [05:55:52] <somiaj> why? I don't see why this is a problem. apt is a collection of tools, and now has one more.
680 [05:55:53] *** Quits: kalos (~kalos@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Yike! I left my stove on.)
681 [05:56:09] *** Quits: dowwie (~dowwie@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
682 [05:56:32] *** Quits: Tom__ (~tomg@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
683 [05:56:56] *** Joins: Tom__ (~tomg@replaced-ip )
684 [05:57:04] *** Joins: Project86__ (uid294991@replaced-ip )
685 [05:57:43] *** Joins: boturk (boturk@replaced-ip )
686 [05:58:57] *** Joins: dreamon_ (~dreamon@replaced-ip )
687 [05:59:49] *** Joins: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip )
688 [06:00:09] <SlidingHorn> I feel like this should be in the offtopic channel.
689 [06:00:14] *** Quits: Tom__ (~tomg@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
690 [06:00:15] *** Joins: tccki_ (~tccki@replaced-ip )
691 [06:00:23] *** Joins: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip )
692 [06:00:38] *** Joins: Tom__ (~tomg@replaced-ip )
693 [06:00:51] <somiaj> its on topic, it is about debian.
694 [06:01:14] <SlidingHorn> it's not support
695 [06:01:27] <nekOwO> I asked why it included apt-get
696 [06:01:33] <SlidingHorn> that's not a support question
697 [06:01:33] <nekOwO> And he explained it to me
698 [06:01:49] <dvs> ???
699 [06:02:00] <nekOwO> ...yes it is
700 [06:02:24] <SlidingHorn> no, it's a philosophical/subjective questioning question.
701 [06:02:27] *** Quits: tccki (~tccki@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
702 [06:02:28] *** tccki_ is now known as tccki
703 [06:02:29] <SlidingHorn> which isn't for here.
704 [06:02:40] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
705 [06:02:57] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
706 [06:03:08] <dvs> why there is more that one package program is a philosophical question?
707 [06:03:38] <somiaj> it wasn't subjective at all, there are versy specific reasons why both are available.
708 [06:03:43] *** Quits: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
709 [06:03:57] *** Quits: diniwed (~gavron@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
710 [06:04:01] <somiaj> but now this isn't support, and anyways, the conversation was just fine.
711 [06:04:07] *** Quits: deznuts (uid92154@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
712 [06:04:20] <SlidingHorn> I suggest taking a look at the !off topic command in here.
713 [06:04:32] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o somiaj
714 [06:04:38] <somiaj> SlidingHorn: things are fine, (:
715 [06:04:41] *** somiaj sets mode: -o somiaj
716 [06:04:43] *** Joins: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip )
717 [06:05:08] <SlidingHorn> I mean, if the ops don't care about the rules, then.. *shrug*
718 [06:06:26] *** Joins: dowwie (~dowwie@replaced-ip )
719 [06:06:44] <awal1> SlidingHorn, I find th topic very debian related, not off
720 [06:07:22] *** Joins: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip )
721 [06:08:35] <awal1> nekOwO, a nice instructive comment for you replaced-url
722 [06:09:12] <awal1> add the new apt to that and consider it just like another front-end for the original apt
723 [06:09:12] *** Quits: Lux__ (~Lux@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
724 [06:09:41] *** Joins: Lux__ (~Lux@replaced-ip )
725 [06:10:04] <awal1> i guess the possible "mess" is that the new 'apt' should be called 'apt-something' for avoid confusion
726 [06:10:38] <somiaj> it was called apt, because it was meant to combine the various tools, apt-get and apt-cache.
727 [06:10:47] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
728 [06:11:09] <awal1> I know, yeah. but still confusing for non advised users
729 [06:11:44] *** Joins: Adbray (~Adbray@replaced-ip )
730 [06:12:11] <krytarik> "apt-fancy" - ok, found it!
731 [06:12:21] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
732 [06:12:28] *** Quits: lafleurdubien (uid206563@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
733 [06:13:09] <Unit193> IIRC, one of the devs had mentioned apt-get being a better one to use in scripts, while apt made for a better front end to users.
734 [06:15:09] <nekOwO> o-okay i get it
735 [06:15:26] *** Quits: dowwie (~dowwie@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
736 [06:16:59] <awal1> the only advantage of apt right now is that you don't need to use apt-get and apt-cache separately
737 [06:17:27] *** Quits: Guest5290 (~cafuego@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
738 [06:17:30] <krytarik> ..And it's also fancy looking.
739 [06:17:32] <awal1> well, it is a new project; less features, obviously vs -get/-cache
740 [06:17:43] *** Joins: cafuego (~cafuego@replaced-ip )
741 [06:17:57] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
742 [06:18:12] <Unit193> I'm not fond of apt's output with what one would otherwise use `apt-cache` for. `apt list` is nice though.
743 [06:18:21] *** Quits: miklcct (quasselcor@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
744 [06:18:21] *** Quits: Raptors (Raptors@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
745 [06:18:26] *** Quits: Enrico_Menotti (Elite19260@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
746 [06:18:38] *** Joins: dowwie (~dowwie@replaced-ip )
747 [06:18:38] *** Quits: dowwie (~dowwie@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
748 [06:18:38] *** Joins: dowwie (~dowwie@replaced-ip )
749 [06:18:41] *** Quits: Merixer (~Merixer@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
750 [06:18:54] <somiaj> yea, I try to use apt more, but do like apt-cache's output for most thigns better, and the fact it doesn't yell at me when i try to pipe the output.
751 [06:19:02] *** Quits: [6667]ThinkTank (6667Thin@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
752 [06:19:02] *** Joins: miklcct (~quassel@replaced-ip )
753 [06:19:06] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
754 [06:19:30] <awal1> all is fine; one just uses what suites your needs/what you like. that is debian
755 [06:20:02] <awal1> i personally like aptitude/apt-X
756 [06:20:27] *** Joins: [6667]ThinkTank (6667Thin@replaced-ip )
757 [06:21:46] *** Joins: grep (~grep@replaced-ip )
758 [06:23:31] *** Joins: Enrico_Menotti (Elite19260@replaced-ip )
759 [06:23:43] *** Joins: tacobat` (~jamesphon@replaced-ip )
760 [06:24:03] *** Quits: kooldavi (~kooldavi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
761 [06:24:44] *** Quits: tacobat (~jamesphon@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
762 [06:24:45] *** tacobat` is now known as tacobat
763 [06:25:08] *** Quits: pringao (~pringau@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
764 [06:25:34] *** Joins: pringao (~pringau@replaced-ip )
765 [06:25:34] *** Joins: kooldavi (~kooldavi@replaced-ip )
766 [06:25:53] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
767 [06:25:53] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
768 [06:25:53] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
769 [06:27:34] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
770 [06:30:20] *** Joins: Darcidride_ (~Darcidrid@replaced-ip )
771 [06:30:38] *** Quits: dendazen (~dendazen@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
772 [06:31:28] *** Joins: Strife89 (~quassel@replaced-ip )
773 [06:31:44] *** Joins: psmolen (~psmolen@replaced-ip )
774 [06:32:08] *** Quits: Darcidride (~Darcidrid@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
775 [06:32:31] *** Quits: Darcidride_ (~Darcidrid@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
776 [06:33:18] *** Quits: ChmEarl (~chmearl@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
777 [06:34:20] *** Quits: Strife1989 (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
778 [06:34:20] *** Joins: dayten (~gnoid@replaced-ip )
779 [06:35:01] *** Joins: platvoeten (~platvoete@replaced-ip )
780 [06:35:58] *** Joins: Tomatix (~tomatix@replaced-ip )
781 [06:35:59] *** Joins: Sri_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip )
782 [06:36:10] *** Joins: erasmus (~erasmus@replaced-ip )
783 [06:36:11] *** Joins: wgas_ (~wgas@replaced-ip )
784 [06:36:16] <Tomatix> Is there a way to tell which ./configure options that has been on used on a package? e.g. wine
785 [06:36:51] *** Quits: wgas (~wgas@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
786 [06:37:29] *** Quits: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
787 [06:37:50] *** Sri_Designer is now known as Sir_Designer
788 [06:38:07] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
789 [06:38:54] *** Quits: tsuggs (~tsuggs@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
790 [06:39:28] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
791 [06:39:51] *** Joins: ledeni_ (~ledeni@replaced-ip )
792 [06:40:24] <Tomatix> ah. found it by getting apt-get source and reading debian/rules.
793 [06:40:31] *** Quits: Tomatix (~tomatix@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
794 [06:40:56] *** Quits: Ridout (coffee@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
795 [06:41:09] *** Quits: grep (~grep@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
796 [06:42:08] *** Joins: rephlexie (~rephlexie@replaced-ip )
797 [06:42:27] *** Quits: wgas_ (~wgas@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
798 [06:42:29] *** Quits: ledeni (~ledeni@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
799 [06:44:26] *** Joins: Strife1989 (~quassel@replaced-ip )
800 [06:45:33] *** Quits: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
801 [06:45:49] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
802 [06:45:50] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
803 [06:45:50] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
804 [06:46:02] *** Quits: Strife89 (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
805 [06:46:34] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
806 [06:47:01] *** Joins: Raptors (Raptors@replaced-ip )
807 [06:47:58] *** Quits: kot (~bug@replaced-ip ) (Quit: .)
808 [06:50:41] *** Joins: deznuts (uid92154@replaced-ip )
809 [06:52:15] *** Quits: nekOwO (4ba402b1@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
810 [06:53:10] *** Quits: epony (~nym@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
811 [06:54:27] *** Quits: Poster (~poster@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - ##replaced-url
812 [06:55:57] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
813 [06:56:07] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
814 [06:56:07] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
815 [06:56:07] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
816 [06:57:10] *** Quits: baptist (~baptsk@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
817 [06:57:41] *** Joins: epony (~nym@replaced-ip )
818 [06:58:29] *** Quits: ghost43 (~daer@replaced-ip ) (Write error: Connection reset by peer)
819 [06:58:29] *** Quits: fred3 (~fred@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
820 [06:58:29] *** Quits: chuun (~user@replaced-ip ) (Write error: Connection reset by peer)
821 [06:58:29] *** Quits: beaver (~none@replaced-ip ) (Write error: Connection reset by peer)
822 [06:58:43] *** Joins: ghost43 (~daer@replaced-ip )
823 [06:59:00] *** Joins: fred3 (~fred@replaced-ip )
824 [06:59:10] *** Joins: chuun (~user@replaced-ip )
825 [06:59:13] *** Joins: beaver (~none@replaced-ip )
826 [06:59:45] *** Quits: tccki (~tccki@replaced-ip ) (Quit: tccki)
827 [07:00:05] *** Joins: tccki (~tccki@replaced-ip )
828 [07:00:25] *** Joins: xet7 (~xet7@replaced-ip )
829 [07:00:28] *** Joins: Poster (~poster@replaced-ip )
830 [07:00:50] *** Joins: superflit (~superflit@replaced-ip )
831 [07:02:18] *** Quits: fred3 (~fred@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
832 [07:02:48] *** Joins: fred3 (~fred@replaced-ip )
833 [07:03:03] *** Quits: krytarik (~krytarik@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Ухожу я от вас)
834 [07:03:41] *** Quits: Kevlar_Noir (~lexou@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
835 [07:03:57] *** Quits: gatekeep (~gatekeep@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
836 [07:04:01] *** Quits: kriger (~norge@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
837 [07:04:11] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
838 [07:05:10] *** Quits: dinoocch (~dinoocch@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
839 [07:05:13] *** Joins: tp43_ (~tp43@replaced-ip )
840 [07:05:27] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
841 [07:05:32] *** Joins: dinoocch (~dinoocch@replaced-ip )
842 [07:05:43] *** uptime is now known as democracytime
843 [07:06:02] *** Quits: l33tspeak (~l33tspeak@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
844 [07:06:14] *** Joins: Merixer (~Merixer@replaced-ip )
845 [07:06:22] <tp43_> How to install printer?
846 [07:06:33] *** Quits: pringao (~pringau@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
847 [07:06:45] *** Joins: pringao (~pringau@replaced-ip )
848 [07:08:08] *** Joins: xsTI85 (~lxuser@replaced-ip )
849 [07:08:49] <tp43_> oh nevermind, it was easy with xfce settings->print settings
850 [07:09:03] *** Quits: Enrico_Menotti (Elite19260@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
851 [07:09:03] *** Quits: erasmus (~erasmus@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
852 [07:09:50] <somiaj> nice, there is also a web interface to cups if needed
853 [07:09:54] *** Quits: d1b (~db@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
854 [07:10:28] *** Joins: Enrico_Menotti (Elite19260@replaced-ip )
855 [07:11:16] <Rembo> hello everyone, i'm getting the following error: replaced-url
856 [07:12:38] <tp43_> somiaj, oh yeah, what is the url?
857 [07:12:40] *** Quits: Bookin (~Bookin@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.1)
858 [07:13:01] *** Quits: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
859 [07:13:08] <somiaj> localhost:631 -- and if you add your user to the lpadmin group, you can login to manage things
860 [07:13:13] *** Joins: sauvin (sauvin@replaced-ip )
861 [07:13:18] *** Joins: Bookin (~Bookin@replaced-ip )
862 [07:13:22] <tp43_> somiaj, thx
863 [07:13:44] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
864 [07:13:44] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
865 [07:13:44] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
866 [07:14:38] *** Quits: dreamon_ (~dreamon@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
867 [07:14:55] *** Quits: Frank2 (~dd@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
868 [07:15:01] <somiaj> Rembo: it might be that curl is trying to use a ssl protocol the sever dosen't support or like.
869 [07:15:44] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
870 [07:16:10] <somiaj> Rembo: replaced-url
871 [07:16:26] <somiaj> which is common, due to ssl issues recentally, many sites are disabling a lot of the older cyphers.
872 [07:17:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1497
873 [07:17:11] <somiaj> (though unsure on the details on how to actually fix it)
874 [07:17:53] *** Quits: theraspberry (~rasp@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
875 [07:18:28] *** Joins: d1b (~db@replaced-ip )
876 [07:19:23] *** Quits: Haxxa (~Harrison@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
877 [07:19:29] *** Joins: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
878 [07:19:38] *** Joins: kupad (kupad@replaced-ip )
879 [07:19:42] *** Quits: deltam (~deltam@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
880 [07:19:47] *** Joins: Tempesta_ (Tempesta@replaced-ip )
881 [07:20:08] *** Joins: sekizo (~schizo@replaced-ip )
882 [07:20:40] *** Joins: gatekeep (~gatekeep@replaced-ip )
883 [07:21:20] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
884 [07:21:56] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
885 [07:21:56] *** Quits: Tempesta (Tempesta@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
886 [07:22:19] *** Joins: theraspberry (~rasp@replaced-ip )
887 [07:22:53] *** Joins: deltam (~deltam@replaced-ip )
888 [07:23:01] *** Joins: Haxxa (~Harrison@replaced-ip )
889 [07:23:16] *** Joins: crimson_king (~NEOalquim@replaced-ip )
890 [07:25:18] *** Joins: dreamon_ (~dreamon@replaced-ip )
891 [07:27:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1504
892 [07:27:13] *** Joins: alkisg (~alkisg@replaced-ip )
893 [07:27:13] *** Quits: mzf (~fakhraee@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
894 [07:28:32] *** Joins: mzf (~fakhraee@replaced-ip )
895 [07:28:55] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
896 [07:30:40] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
897 [07:31:09] *** Quits: jesopo (jess@replaced-ip ) (Quit: et nos unum sumus)
898 [07:31:29] *** Quits: civillian (~nick@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
899 [07:32:21] *** Joins: civillian (~nick@replaced-ip )
900 [07:35:45] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
901 [07:37:16] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
902 [07:37:27] <Rembo> somiaj, i try to used from another part and it works, it doesn't work on localhost
903 [07:38:04] *** Joins: Haohmaru (~Haohmaru@replaced-ip )
904 [07:39:45] *** Joins: robotpanic (kiliev@replaced-ip )
905 [07:40:07] *** robotpanic is now known as Guest72979
906 [07:40:13] *** Quits: KindaNoob (4d52554e@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ##replaced-url
907 [07:40:13] *** Joins: andrzejv (~andzej@replaced-ip )
908 [07:40:29] *** Quits: nuuuciano__ (~luuuciano@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
909 [07:42:00] *** Joins: pmullins (~textual@replaced-ip )
910 [07:43:07] *** Quits: crimson_king (~NEOalquim@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
911 [07:43:51] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
912 [07:43:52] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
913 [07:43:52] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
914 [07:44:19] *** Joins: tccki_ (~tccki@replaced-ip )
915 [07:45:03] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
916 [07:46:42] *** Quits: tccki (~tccki@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
917 [07:46:42] *** tccki_ is now known as tccki
918 [07:47:18] *** Quits: miklcct (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
919 [07:47:36] *** Parts: pmullins (~textual@replaced-ip##) ("Textual IRC Client: ##replaced-url
920 [07:47:46] *** Joins: well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip )
921 [07:48:08] *** Joins: miklcct (quasselcor@replaced-ip )
922 [07:49:14] *** Quits: superflit (~superflit@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
923 [07:49:39] *** Joins: tccki_ (~tccki@replaced-ip )
924 [07:50:18] *** Quits: tccki (~tccki@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
925 [07:51:00] *** tccki_ is now known as tccki
926 [07:51:06] *** Quits: craigp (~craigp@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
927 [07:51:43] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
928 [07:52:02] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
929 [07:52:27] *** Quits: s0lar1s (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
930 [07:52:34] *** Quits: dreamon_ (~dreamon@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
931 [07:52:34] *** Quits: dowwie (~dowwie@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
932 [07:52:37] *** Joins: briner (~briner@replaced-ip )
933 [07:53:09] *** Joins: s0lar1s (~quassel@replaced-ip )
934 [07:53:35] *** Quits: briner (~briner@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
935 [07:53:50] *** Joins: craigp (~craigp@replaced-ip )
936 [07:54:11] *** Quits: craigp (~craigp@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
937 [07:56:10] *** Quits: Unit193 (ukikie@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 624 seconds)
938 [07:56:40] *** Joins: dowwie (~dowwie@replaced-ip )
939 [07:56:40] *** Quits: dowwie (~dowwie@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
940 [07:56:40] *** Joins: dowwie (~dowwie@replaced-ip )
941 [07:58:04] *** Quits: b00kworm (bookwormre@replaced-ip ) (*.net *.split)
942 [07:58:04] *** Quits: APLU (~mulx@replaced-ip ) (*.net *.split)
943 [07:58:04] *** Quits: Louis (Louis@replaced-ip ) (*.net *.split)
944 [07:58:04] *** Quits: nadersith[m] (nadersithm@replaced-ip ) (*.net *.split)
945 [07:58:04] *** Quits: Kulrak (1010011010@replaced-ip ) (*.net *.split)
946 [07:58:04] *** Quits: wingman2 (~wingman2@replaced-ip ) (*.net *.split)
947 [07:58:05] *** Quits: rad[m] (greynixmat@replaced-ip ) (*.net *.split)
948 [07:58:05] *** Quits: snadge (snadge@replaced-ip ) (*.net *.split)
949 [07:58:22] *** Joins: eshlox (uid44222@replaced-ip )
950 [07:58:56] *** Joins: Unit193 (ukikie@replaced-ip )
951 [07:59:27] *** Quits: sz0 (uid110435@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
952 [07:59:38] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
953 [07:59:39] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
954 [07:59:39] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
955 [08:00:03] *** Joins: bertbob (~bertbob@replaced-ip )
956 [08:00:39] *** Quits: totonika (~toto@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
957 [08:00:39] *** Quits: abracadaniel (~abracadan@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
958 [08:00:41] *** Quits: Hydroxide (~jimmy@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
959 [08:00:57] *** Quits: DzAirmaX (~DzAirmaX@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
960 [08:01:00] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
961 [08:01:14] *** Quits: Psy-Q (~psy-q@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
962 [08:01:59] *** Joins: daze (~daze@replaced-ip )
963 [08:03:09] *** Joins: abracadaniel (~abracadan@replaced-ip )
964 [08:03:10] *** Joins: Psy-Q (~psy-q@replaced-ip )
965 [08:03:14] *** Joins: DzAirmaX (~DzAirmaX@replaced-ip )
966 [08:03:19] *** Quits: dpkg (~dpkg@replaced-ip ) (Quit: buh bye!)
967 [08:03:33] *** Joins: adoua (~adoua@replaced-ip )
968 [08:03:33] *** Joins: totonika (~toto@replaced-ip )
969 [08:03:53] *** Quits: pnepe6 (~pnepe6@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
970 [08:03:53] *** Quits: pnepe6__ (~pnepe6@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
971 [08:04:11] *** Joins: pnepe6 (~pnepe6@replaced-ip )
972 [08:04:12] *** Joins: pnepe6_ (~pnepe6@replaced-ip )
973 [08:04:25] *** Quits: cruxeternus (~cruxetern@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
974 [08:04:31] *** Quits: swathe (~swathe@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
975 [08:04:41] *** Joins: Junaos_ (~Junaos@replaced-ip )
976 [08:04:44] *** Quits: theraspberry (~rasp@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
977 [08:04:51] *** Quits: bertbob (~bertbob@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
978 [08:05:17] *** Quits: Junaos (~Junaos@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
979 [08:06:06] *** Joins: theraspberry (~rasp@replaced-ip )
980 [08:06:29] *** Quits: dowwie (~dowwie@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
981 [08:06:33] *** Quits: Project86__ (uid294991@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
982 [08:06:35] *** Joins: dowwie (~dowwie@replaced-ip )
983 [08:06:35] *** Quits: dowwie (~dowwie@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
984 [08:06:35] *** Joins: dowwie (~dowwie@replaced-ip )
985 [08:06:39] *** Quits: kupad (kupad@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
986 [08:07:02] *** Quits: qman__ (quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
987 [08:07:07] *** Quits: debhelper (~debhelper@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
988 [08:07:11] <Rembo> can anyone help?
989 [08:07:36] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
990 [08:08:08] *** Joins: daniel-s (~daniel-s@replaced-ip )
991 [08:09:24] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
992 [08:10:07] *** Quits: Neomex (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
993 [08:12:03] *** Quits: dowwie (~dowwie@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
994 [08:16:01] *** Quits: herbmillerjr (~herbmille@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
995 [08:16:30] *** Joins: dowwie (~dowwie@replaced-ip )
996 [08:16:30] *** Quits: dowwie (~dowwie@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
997 [08:16:30] *** Joins: dowwie (~dowwie@replaced-ip )
998 [08:16:31] *** Joins: herbmillerjr (~herbmille@replaced-ip )
999 [08:17:12] *** Joins: Tesfe231 (~lolo@replaced-ip )
1000 [08:17:54] *** Quits: mel00010 (~mel00010@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1001 [08:17:58] *** Parts: Tesfe231 (~lolo@replaced-ip ) ()
1002 [08:18:45] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1003 [08:18:46] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1004 [08:18:46] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1005 [08:18:46] *** Joins: davet_ (~davet@replaced-ip )
1006 [08:19:01] *** Joins: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1007 [08:19:05] *** Joins: bertbob (~bertbob@replaced-ip )
1008 [08:19:16] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
1009 [08:19:26] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1010 [08:20:00] *** Joins: jerdef82 (~jerdef@replaced-ip )
1011 [08:20:04] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
1012 [08:20:38] *** Quits: dayten (~gnoid@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
1013 [08:20:55] *** Quits: dowwie (~dowwie@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1014 [08:21:58] *** Joins: debhelper (~debhelper@replaced-ip )
1015 [08:21:58] *** Quits: debhelper (~debhelper@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1016 [08:21:58] *** Joins: debhelper (~debhelper@replaced-ip )
1017 [08:21:58] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o debhelper
1018 [08:22:29] *** Joins: dpkg (~dpkg@replaced-ip )
1019 [08:22:41] *** Quits: davet_ (~davet@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1020 [08:22:48] *** Quits: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
1021 [08:23:43] *** Joins: mel00010 (~mel00010@replaced-ip )
1022 [08:25:07] *** Joins: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip )
1023 [08:25:56] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
1024 [08:26:43] *** Joins: Arimil (~Renari@replaced-ip )
1025 [08:26:47] *** Quits: tccki (~tccki@replaced-ip ) (Quit: tccki)
1026 [08:27:07] *** Joins: tccki (~tccki@replaced-ip )
1027 [08:27:28] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1028 [08:30:03] *** Quits: Renari (~Renari@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1029 [08:30:05] *** Quits: kein31 (~root@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1030 [08:31:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1490
1031 [08:31:13] *** Joins: OtakuSen1ai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip )
1032 [08:31:33] *** Quits: handsome_feng (~feng@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1033 [08:31:52] *** OtakuSen1ai is now known as Nawab
1034 [08:32:57] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1035 [08:32:57] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1036 [08:32:57] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1037 [08:33:31] *** Joins: kein31 (~root@replaced-ip )
1038 [08:34:06] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1039 [08:34:15] *** Quits: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1040 [08:34:54] *** Quits: chuun (~user@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1041 [08:35:38] *** Joins: chuun (~user@replaced-ip )
1042 [08:36:21] *** Joins: Strife89 (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1043 [08:36:27] *** Quits: AfroThundr (~AfroThund@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1044 [08:37:36] *** Quits: Have-Quick (~aaron@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Have-Quick)
1045 [08:39:58] *** Quits: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1046 [08:40:00] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
1047 [08:40:18] *** Joins: BlueByte_ (~walther@replaced-ip )
1048 [08:40:24] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1049 [08:40:28] *** Joins: Rogalian (~cools@replaced-ip )
1050 [08:40:34] *** Quits: Strife1989 (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1051 [08:40:36] *** Joins: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip )
1052 [08:42:22] *** Joins: jesopo (jess@replaced-ip )
1053 [08:42:53] *** Quits: n4cht (~fsckoff@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1054 [08:46:26] *** Quits: xsTI85 (~lxuser@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1055 [08:47:58] *** Quits: chuun (~user@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1056 [08:48:02] *** Quits: ageis (~kevin@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
1057 [08:48:38] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1058 [08:48:38] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1059 [08:48:38] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1060 [08:49:44] *** Joins: ageis (~kevin@replaced-ip )
1061 [08:49:53] *** Joins: chuun (~user@replaced-ip )
1062 [08:50:07] *** Joins: shinnok (~shinnok@replaced-ip )
1063 [08:50:24] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
1064 [08:52:46] *** Joins: sergej (~sergej@replaced-ip )
1065 [08:53:13] *** Quits: sergej (~sergej@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1066 [08:54:44] *** Quits: ghost43 (~daer@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1067 [08:54:52] *** Quits: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1068 [08:55:03] *** Joins: ghost43 (~daer@replaced-ip )
1069 [08:55:25] *** Joins: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip )
1070 [08:58:06] *** Quits: rasusto (~rasusto@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1071 [08:59:12] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
1072 [08:59:56] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
1073 [09:00:45] *** Joins: cjbayliss (~cjb@replaced-ip )
1074 [09:01:05] *** Joins: robotroll (~robotroll@replaced-ip )
1075 [09:01:22] *** Joins: Kevlar_Noir (~lexou@replaced-ip )
1076 [09:03:31] *** Joins: Madda (~Madda@replaced-ip )
1077 [09:03:37] *** Quits: sibyakin (~sibyakin@replaced-ip ) ()
1078 [09:05:57] *** Quits: BlueByte_ (~walther@replaced-ip ) (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
1079 [09:06:09] *** Joins: imp (~imp@replaced-ip )
1080 [09:06:11] *** Joins: oish (~charlie@replaced-ip )
1081 [09:07:16] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1082 [09:07:16] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1083 [09:07:16] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1084 [09:07:18] *** Quits: Rogalian (~cools@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1085 [09:07:44] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1086 [09:07:52] *** Joins: Rokixz (~rokas@replaced-ip )
1087 [09:10:58] *** Quits: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
1088 [09:11:21] *** Joins: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip )
1089 [09:13:05] *** Quits: codebam (~codebam@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1090 [09:13:15] *** Quits: zyley (~zyley@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1091 [09:13:17] *** Quits: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1092 [09:13:24] *** Joins: snadge (snadge@replaced-ip )
1093 [09:13:24] *** Quits: snadge (snadge@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1094 [09:13:24] *** Joins: snadge (snadge@replaced-ip )
1095 [09:13:26] *** Joins: BenNZ (~Ben__@replaced-ip )
1096 [09:13:36] *** Joins: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip )
1097 [09:13:48] *** Quits: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1098 [09:13:51] *** Quits: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1099 [09:13:52] *** Joins: codebam (~codebam@replaced-ip )
1100 [09:14:37] *** Joins: Rogalian (~cools@replaced-ip )
1101 [09:15:28] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
1102 [09:16:17] *** Quits: tagomago (~tagomago@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
1103 [09:16:21] *** Joins: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip )
1104 [09:16:48] *** Quits: tom[] (~tom]@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1105 [09:16:51] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1106 [09:17:14] *** democracytime is now known as uptime
1107 [09:19:26] *** Joins: mkjm23 (~swarup@replaced-ip )
1108 [09:20:18] *** Quits: mkjm23 (~swarup@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1109 [09:20:23] *** Joins: tom[] (~tom]@replaced-ip )
1110 [09:22:40] *** Quits: Evol (~no@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1111 [09:25:27] *** Joins: RebelCoder (~RebelCode@replaced-ip )
1112 [09:25:46] *** Joins: mibo (~mibo@replaced-ip )
1113 [09:26:20] *** Joins: mackerel449 (~r0li@replaced-ip )
1114 [09:27:46] <Rembo> hello, i have a wget issue: replaced-url
1115 [09:28:02] *** Joins: fghf (~swarup@replaced-ip )
1116 [09:28:19] *** Joins: dracc (~dracc@replaced-ip )
1117 [09:28:59] *** Joins: zifxify (~zifxify@replaced-ip )
1118 [09:29:08] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1119 [09:29:09] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1120 [09:29:09] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1121 [09:29:19] *** Parts: mackerel449 (~r0li@replaced-ip ) ()
1122 [09:29:41] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1123 [09:29:44] *** Quits: sidmo (~ilven@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1124 [09:30:18] *** Quits: kone (~kone@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
1125 [09:31:13] *** Quits: fghf (~swarup@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1126 [09:32:15] <Rembo> it work from outside but not from localhost
1127 [09:32:54] *** Joins: tagomago (~tagomago@replaced-ip )
1128 [09:33:04] *** Quits: Madda (~Madda@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
1129 [09:34:12] *** Joins: Madda (~Madda@replaced-ip )
1130 [09:35:04] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
1131 [09:35:21] *** Joins: sidmo (~crunch@replaced-ip )
1132 [09:36:05] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1133 [09:37:08] *** Quits: clay (~clay@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1134 [09:37:11] *** Joins: n4cht (~fsckoff@replaced-ip )
1135 [09:40:23] *** Joins: lalaa (~juho@replaced-ip )
1136 [09:41:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1497
1137 [09:41:48] *** Quits: pnepe6_ (~pnepe6@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1138 [09:41:48] *** Quits: pnepe6 (~pnepe6@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1139 [09:42:02] *** Joins: spithash (~spithash@replaced-ip )
1140 [09:42:05] *** Joins: pnepe6_ (~pnepe6@replaced-ip )
1141 [09:42:06] *** Joins: pnepe6 (~pnepe6@replaced-ip )
1142 [09:42:16] *** Joins: cdown_ (~cdown@replaced-ip )
1143 [09:42:46] *** Joins: NetTerminalGene (~NetTermin@replaced-ip )
1144 [09:43:45] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1145 [09:43:46] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1146 [09:43:47] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1147 [09:44:18] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1148 [09:44:38] *** Quits: Madda (~Madda@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1149 [09:44:45] *** Quits: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1150 [09:44:49] *** cdown_ is now known as cdown
1151 [09:45:03] *** Joins: Madda (~Madda@replaced-ip )
1152 [09:45:28] *** Joins: msimpson (~msimpson@replaced-ip )
1153 [09:45:45] *** Quits: Christian75 (~Christian@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1154 [09:46:43] *** Joins: Tywin (~Tywin@replaced-ip )
1155 [09:46:54] *** Joins: elevated (~elevated@replaced-ip )
1156 [09:46:57] *** Joins: BlueByte_ (~walther@replaced-ip )
1157 [09:47:03] <Tywin> How can I disable the xorg modesetting driver? I want to use the intel one
1158 [09:47:05] *** Quits: Nawab (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
1159 [09:48:35] *** Joins: Christian75 (~Christian@replaced-ip )
1160 [09:48:56] *** Quits: Nnavd (~Nnavd@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1161 [09:50:45] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
1162 [09:51:26] *** Joins: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip )
1163 [09:52:33] *** Joins: wredny (~live@replaced-ip )
1164 [09:52:34] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1165 [09:54:27] *** Quits: Kevlar_Noir (~lexou@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1166 [09:54:41] *** Joins: Walakea (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1167 [09:54:50] <michael2> does anyone know a way to preview fonts in debian?
1168 [09:55:27] *** Joins: pingfloyd (~pingfloyd@replaced-ip )
1169 [09:55:42] *** Joins: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1170 [09:55:47] <SlidingHorn> michael2: depending on your DE, there's usually a Settings application in your menu...go to Appearance > Fonts
1171 [09:56:07] *** Joins: AfroThundr (~AfroThund@replaced-ip )
1172 [09:56:23] <michael2> is there a plain ol package?
1173 [09:56:42] <Walakea> i am afraid a part of my laptop is dying, my terminal freezes from time to time, audio from headphones sounds bad, dmesg constantly prints messages about spurious responses
1174 [09:56:44] *** Quits: Rogalian (~cools@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1175 [09:57:12] *** Quits: Tywin (~Tywin@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Tywin)
1176 [09:57:27] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1177 [09:57:27] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1178 [09:57:27] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1179 [09:58:33] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1180 [10:00:50] *** Quits: MrGr33n (~None@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1181 [10:01:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1503
1182 [10:01:17] *** Joins: uNmowed (~Kaede@replaced-ip )
1183 [10:01:30] *** Quits: kriskropd (~kris@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
1184 [10:01:48] *** Joins: MrGr33n (~None@replaced-ip )
1185 [10:03:20] *** Joins: Rogalian (~cools@replaced-ip )
1186 [10:04:12] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
1187 [10:04:22] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1188 [10:04:44] *** Joins: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1189 [10:05:44] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1190 [10:05:52] *** Joins: michael_ (~michael@replaced-ip )
1191 [10:06:00] *** michael_ is now known as Vonor_
1192 [10:06:00] *** Joins: sibyakin (~sibyakin@replaced-ip )
1193 [10:06:09] <michael2> nvm I found font-manager package - it seems pretty good
1194 [10:06:14] *** Quits: Vonor_ (~michael@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1195 [10:06:14] *** Joins: Vonor_ (~michael@replaced-ip )
1196 [10:06:24] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1197 [10:06:25] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1198 [10:06:25] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1199 [10:06:31] *** Quits: Vonor_ (~michael@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1200 [10:07:26] *** Quits: slack_ (~slack@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1201 [10:07:31] *** Joins: kallesbar (~kallesbar@replaced-ip )
1202 [10:07:44] *** Joins: kriskropd (~kris@replaced-ip )
1203 [10:08:01] *** Quits: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1204 [10:08:50] *** Quits: mel00010 (~mel00010@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
1205 [10:09:51] *** Quits: rec0de (~rec0de@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1206 [10:10:06] *** Joins: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip )
1207 [10:10:11] *** Joins: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip )
1208 [10:10:28] *** Joins: wingman2 (~wingman2@replaced-ip )
1209 [10:11:53] *** Joins: vivid (~ViViD@replaced-ip )
1210 [10:15:32] *** Quits: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1211 [10:16:13] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
1212 [10:16:57] *** Joins: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip )
1213 [10:17:04] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1214 [10:17:16] *** Joins: slv (~slv@replaced-ip )
1215 [10:17:37] *** Joins: mel00010 (~mel00010@replaced-ip )
1216 [10:19:46] *** Joins: pifpafpouf (~pifpafpou@replaced-ip )
1217 [10:20:18] *** Joins: Gaaab (~Gaaab@replaced-ip )
1218 [10:20:21] *** Quits: Madda (~Madda@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
1219 [10:20:41] *** Joins: Tywin (~Tywin@replaced-ip )
1220 [10:20:48] *** Joins: Madda (~Madda@replaced-ip )
1221 [10:21:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1514
1222 [10:22:13] *** Quits: booyah (~bb@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1223 [10:22:33] *** Quits: dcpc007 (~dcpc007@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1224 [10:22:46] *** Quits: Walakea (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Walakea)
1225 [10:23:10] *** Joins: booyah (~bb@replaced-ip )
1226 [10:24:15] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1227 [10:24:16] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1228 [10:24:16] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1229 [10:24:34] *** ledeni_ is now known as ledeni
1230 [10:24:44] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1231 [10:24:49] *** Joins: wgas (~wgas@replaced-ip )
1232 [10:24:58] *** Quits: BlueByte_ (~walther@replaced-ip ) (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
1233 [10:25:19] *** Joins: Informant (~Informant@replaced-ip )
1234 [10:25:30] *** Quits: mibo (~mibo@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1235 [10:26:29] *** Joins: mibo (~mibo@replaced-ip )
1236 [10:28:58] *** Joins: b00kworm (bookwormre@replaced-ip )
1237 [10:28:58] *** Joins: APLU (~mulx@replaced-ip )
1238 [10:28:58] *** Joins: Louis (Louis@replaced-ip )
1239 [10:28:58] *** Joins: nadersith[m] (nadersithm@replaced-ip )
1240 [10:28:58] *** Joins: Kulrak (1010011010@replaced-ip )
1241 [10:28:58] *** Joins: rad[m] (greynixmat@replaced-ip )
1242 [10:29:34] *** Quits: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1243 [10:32:52] *** Joins: hele (~hele@replaced-ip )
1244 [10:32:59] *** Joins: tccki_ (~tccki@replaced-ip )
1245 [10:33:21] *** Quits: tccki (~tccki@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1246 [10:33:26] *** Joins: Cuechan (~paul@replaced-ip )
1247 [10:34:23] *** tccki_ is now known as tccki
1248 [10:34:29] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
1249 [10:34:38] *** Quits: sidmo (~crunch@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1250 [10:35:29] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1251 [10:35:34] *** Quits: BenNZ (~Ben__@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Everytime I think IQ's must have dropped recently, I remember that this is the internet)
1252 [10:35:51] *** Quits: Trellmor (~Trellmor@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
1253 [10:35:59] *** Quits: b00kworm (bookwormre@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1254 [10:36:00] *** Quits: nadersith[m] (nadersithm@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1255 [10:36:02] *** Quits: rad[m] (greynixmat@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1256 [10:36:13] *** Quits: camael[m] (camaelmatr@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1257 [10:36:15] *** Quits: aispark[m] (aisparkmat@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1258 [10:36:15] *** Quits: paulez[m] (paulezmatr@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1259 [10:36:18] *** Quits: attero (atteromatr@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1260 [10:36:19] *** Quits: gybter[m] (gybtermatr@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1261 [10:36:20] *** Quits: zsin (zsinskrima@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1262 [10:36:26] *** Quits: smellems[m] (smellemsma@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1263 [10:38:40] *** Joins: sidmo (~crunch@replaced-ip )
1264 [10:38:44] *** Quits: enoch85 (~enoch85@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1265 [10:38:52] *** Joins: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip )
1266 [10:38:57] *** Quits: banc (~master@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1267 [10:38:57] *** Quits: WebDawg (~webdawg@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1268 [10:38:59] *** Joins: Haudegen (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1269 [10:39:48] *** Quits: wredny (~live@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1270 [10:39:54] *** Quits: totonika (~toto@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1271 [10:39:54] *** Quits: Psy-Q (~psy-q@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1272 [10:40:51] *** Quits: Aristide (~Aristide@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1273 [10:41:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1503
1274 [10:41:31] *** Joins: banc (~master@replaced-ip )
1275 [10:41:31] *** Joins: Psy-Q (~psy-q@replaced-ip )
1276 [10:41:37] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1277 [10:41:40] *** Quits: x0x0_ (x0x0matrix@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1278 [10:42:01] *** Joins: enoch85 (~enoch85@replaced-ip )
1279 [10:42:01] *** Quits: enoch85 (~enoch85@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1280 [10:42:01] *** Joins: enoch85 (~enoch85@replaced-ip )
1281 [10:42:15] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1282 [10:42:15] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1283 [10:42:16] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1284 [10:42:49] *** Joins: totonika (~toto@replaced-ip )
1285 [10:43:13] *** Quits: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1286 [10:43:22] *** Joins: WebDawg (~webdawg@replaced-ip )
1287 [10:43:45] *** Joins: blaztek (~blaztek@replaced-ip )
1288 [10:44:00] *** Joins: dchalon (~dchalon@replaced-ip )
1289 [10:44:11] *** Joins: Aristide (~Aristide@replaced-ip )
1290 [10:44:25] *** Quits: dchalon (~dchalon@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1291 [10:44:43] *** Quits: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: pax)
1292 [10:45:13] *** Joins: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip )
1293 [10:45:51] *** Joins: BlueByte_ (~walther@replaced-ip )
1294 [10:45:54] *** Joins: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
1295 [10:46:13] *** Quits: lalaa (~juho@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1296 [10:47:09] *** Joins: clemens3 (~clemens@replaced-ip )
1297 [10:47:23] *** Joins: rek (~rek@replaced-ip )
1298 [10:47:40] *** Quits: APLU (~mulx@replaced-ip ) (*.net *.split)
1299 [10:47:40] *** Quits: Louis (Louis@replaced-ip ) (*.net *.split)
1300 [10:47:40] *** Quits: Kulrak (1010011010@replaced-ip ) (*.net *.split)
1301 [10:48:29] *** Quits: RebelCoder (~RebelCode@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1302 [10:48:36] *** Joins: dcpc007 (~dcpc007__@replaced-ip )
1303 [10:48:44] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
1304 [10:48:52] <dcpc007> Hi all
1305 [10:48:55] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1306 [10:48:58] *** Quits: blaztek (~blaztek@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
1307 [10:49:03] <dcpc007> I have a corrupted SDcard in FAT
1308 [10:49:21] *** Quits: hele (~hele@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1309 [10:49:24] <dcpc007> i ran a fcsk and it shows me some error, i make correct, but seems to do nothing
1310 [10:49:57] <dcpc007> i have a gparted report
1311 [10:50:25] <dcpc007> FAT 1 media 0 doesn't match the boot sector's media f8. You should probably run scandisk.
1312 [10:50:34] <dcpc007> Bad FAT: unterminated chain for \. You should run dosfsck or scandisk
1313 [10:50:49] <dcpc007> unable to mount the sdcard on Windows 7 or 10 too
1314 [10:51:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1509
1315 [10:51:14] <dcpc007> i made a dd backup of the sd card on another linux
1316 [10:51:29] *** Joins: blaztek (~blaztek@replaced-ip )
1317 [10:51:33] <dcpc007> any idea on how to get back the foto on it ?
1318 [10:51:37] *** Joins: telcoguy (~telcoguy@replaced-ip )
1319 [10:51:52] *** Quits: Syndicate2090 (~Syndicate@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1320 [10:51:58] *** Quits: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1321 [10:52:42] *** Quits: bnw (~bnw@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1322 [10:53:02] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
1323 [10:53:13] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1324 [10:53:13] *** Joins: P1ersson (~P1ersson@replaced-ip )
1325 [10:53:21] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
1326 [10:54:16] *** Joins: Syndicate2090 (~Syndicate@replaced-ip )
1327 [10:54:33] *** Quits: ZetFury (~ZetFury@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1328 [10:54:57] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1329 [10:56:42] *** Joins: Schmetterwurm (~Schmetter@replaced-ip )
1330 [10:57:49] *** Joins: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip )
1331 [10:58:15] *** Joins: ongolaBoy (~ongolaBoy@replaced-ip )
1332 [10:59:20] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1333 [10:59:21] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1334 [10:59:21] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1335 [11:00:02] *** Quits: Syndicate2090 (~Syndicate@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1336 [11:00:21] *** Joins: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip )
1337 [11:00:35] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1338 [11:00:56] *** Joins: APLU (~mulx@replaced-ip )
1339 [11:01:39] *** OtakuSenpai is now known as Neel
1340 [11:03:27] *** Joins: Korigan (~Korigan@replaced-ip )
1341 [11:03:50] *** Quits: mel00010 (~mel00010@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1342 [11:05:29] *** Quits: jerdef82 (~jerdef@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1343 [11:05:37] *** Quits: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1344 [11:05:40] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
1345 [11:05:47] <rek> hi, is really necessary to remove also nvidia-toolkit to remove completely the nvidia driver in or what?
1346 [11:05:50] *** Joins: bnw (~bnw@replaced-ip )
1347 [11:06:13] *** Joins: _ADN_ (~username@replaced-ip )
1348 [11:06:18] *** cherryh.freenode.net sets mode: +l 1514
1349 [11:06:18] *** Joins: Louis (Louis@replaced-ip )
1350 [11:06:18] *** Joins: Kulrak (1010011010@replaced-ip )
1351 [11:06:49] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1352 [11:06:49] *** Quits: kunwon1 (~kunwon1@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1353 [11:07:21] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
1354 [11:07:32] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1355 [11:07:53] *** Joins: kunwon1 (~kunwon1@replaced-ip )
1356 [11:08:15] *** Joins: Syndicate2090 (~Syndicate@replaced-ip )
1357 [11:08:41] *** Quits: roylaprattep (~roylaprat@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
1358 [11:08:55] *** Joins: xormor (~xormor@replaced-ip )
1359 [11:09:38] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
1360 [11:09:49] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1361 [11:10:14] *** Joins: hele (~hele@replaced-ip )
1362 [11:12:35] *** Joins: WhatisRT (~whatisrt@replaced-ip )
1363 [11:13:43] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1364 [11:13:43] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1365 [11:13:43] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1366 [11:13:50] *** Quits: Al_lA (~derwhalfi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
1367 [11:14:43] *** Joins: Al_lA (~derwhalfi@replaced-ip )
1368 [11:15:21] *** Quits: Neel (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
1369 [11:15:22] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1370 [11:15:43] *** Joins: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip )
1371 [11:16:38] *** Quits: rek (~rek@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1372 [11:17:58] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
1373 [11:18:08] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1374 [11:18:35] *** Quits: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1375 [11:19:23] *** Joins: Kevlar_Noir (~lexou@replaced-ip )
1376 [11:19:24] *** Quits: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1377 [11:19:28] *** Quits: rephlexie (~rephlexie@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1378 [11:19:52] *** Joins: sphenxes (~sphenxes@replaced-ip )
1379 [11:21:24] *** Joins: turfal (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1380 [11:21:27] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
1381 [11:21:51] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1382 [11:23:18] *** Quits: Haxxa (~Harrison@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1383 [11:23:26] *** Joins: r00tobo (~r00tobo@replaced-ip )
1384 [11:24:16] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
1385 [11:24:27] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1386 [11:25:14] *** Quits: deznuts (uid92154@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
1387 [11:27:03] *** Joins: ZetFury (~ZetFury@replaced-ip )
1388 [11:28:06] *** Joins: impy (~textual@replaced-ip )
1389 [11:28:34] *** Joins: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip )
1390 [11:28:55] *** Joins: Haxxa (~Harrison@replaced-ip )
1391 [11:29:19] *** Quits: Tywin (~Tywin@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Tywin)
1392 [11:29:22] *** Joins: SilverBe (~SilverBe@replaced-ip )
1393 [11:29:35] *** SilverBe is now known as m1m0
1394 [11:29:41] *** Joins: Madda_ (~Madda@replaced-ip )
1395 [11:30:23] *** Quits: Madda (~Madda@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1396 [11:31:07] *** Joins: Tywin (~Tywin@replaced-ip )
1397 [11:32:34] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
1398 [11:32:45] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1399 [11:32:59] *** Quits: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1400 [11:35:12] *** Joins: x0x0_ (x0x0matrix@replaced-ip )
1401 [11:35:44] *** Joins: Tiffon (~name@replaced-ip )
1402 [11:36:12] *** Joins: dfcnvt (~tagraf@replaced-ip )
1403 [11:36:28] *** Quits: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1404 [11:36:35] <dfcnvt> Okay, I recently installed a new Debian OS (stable).
1405 [11:36:45] <dfcnvt> I've hit a few problems.
1406 [11:36:58] *** Quits: amaldo_ (~amaldo@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1407 [11:37:15] *** Joins: amaldo_ (~amaldo@replaced-ip )
1408 [11:37:15] *** Joins: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip )
1409 [11:37:31] <xormor> dfcnvt, so, please tell us about the problems.
1410 [11:38:03] *** Joins: gybter[m] (gybtermatr@replaced-ip )
1411 [11:38:03] *** Joins: paulez[m] (paulezmatr@replaced-ip )
1412 [11:38:04] *** Joins: attero (atteromatr@replaced-ip )
1413 [11:38:04] *** Joins: b00kworm (bookwormre@replaced-ip )
1414 [11:38:11] *** Joins: nadersith[m] (nadersithm@replaced-ip )
1415 [11:38:11] *** Joins: rad[m] (greynixmat@replaced-ip )
1416 [11:38:11] *** Joins: aispark[m] (aisparkmat@replaced-ip )
1417 [11:38:11] *** Joins: smellems[m] (smellemsma@replaced-ip )
1418 [11:38:12] *** Joins: zsin (zsinskrima@replaced-ip )
1419 [11:38:12] *** Joins: camael[m] (camaelmatr@replaced-ip )
1420 [11:38:23] *** Quits: catsup (d@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1421 [11:38:46] <dfcnvt> I've selected all packages (main), (contrib), (non-free) and Source code....
1422 [11:38:53] <dfcnvt> But upon apt-get update && apt-get upgrade.
1423 [11:39:17] <dfcnvt> I got a 404 Not Found during its update/upgrade
1424 [11:39:44] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1425 [11:39:46] *** Quits: cjbayliss (~cjb@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
1426 [11:39:47] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1427 [11:39:49] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list file to a pastebin? cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
1428 [11:39:55] *** Joins: catsup (d@replaced-ip )
1429 [11:39:55] <dfcnvt> Sure
1430 [11:39:56] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1431 [11:39:56] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1432 [11:39:57] <dfcnvt> give me sec
1433 [11:41:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1529
1434 [11:41:09] *** Joins: crimson_king (~NEOalquim@replaced-ip )
1435 [11:41:31] *** Quits: toogleyy (~weechat@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)
1436 [11:42:11] *** Joins: lucad111 (~lucad111@replaced-ip )
1437 [11:42:53] <dfcnvt> SlidingHorn: replaced-url
1438 [11:43:02] *** Quits: somnambler (~michael@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1439 [11:43:11] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: there's more to that link...
1440 [11:43:16] <dfcnvt> oh crap
1441 [11:43:21] *** Quits: telcoguy (~telcoguy@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1442 [11:43:25] <dfcnvt> replaced-url
1443 [11:43:35] *** Joins: czesmir (~stefan@replaced-ip )
1444 [11:43:41] *** Quits: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: dionysus69)
1445 [11:44:03] *** Joins: semeion (~semeion@replaced-ip )
1446 [11:44:09] *** Joins: toogley (~weechat@replaced-ip )
1447 [11:44:10] *** Joins: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1448 [11:44:36] *** Joins: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip )
1449 [11:44:47] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: what country are you in?
1450 [11:44:54] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
1451 [11:45:04] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1452 [11:45:11] <dfcnvt> United States.
1453 [11:45:59] *** Quits: domovoy__ (~domovoy@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1454 [11:46:02] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: ok - in each spot where it says replaced-url
1455 [11:46:14] <dfcnvt> Hm
1456 [11:46:15] <dfcnvt> oka
1457 [11:46:21] *** Joins: coffforcake (~coffforca@replaced-ip )
1458 [11:46:21] <SlidingHorn> (sorry, ignore the first https - i meant http)
1459 [11:46:41] *** Joins: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1460 [11:46:42] *** Joins: zyley (~zyley@replaced-ip )
1461 [11:47:15] *** Joins: iulian_ (~iulian@replaced-ip )
1462 [11:47:25] <dfcnvt> each and all line?
1463 [11:47:28] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
1464 [11:47:53] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: yes..should be 4x
1465 [11:47:55] *** Quits: semeion (~semeion@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1466 [11:48:18] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1467 [11:49:20] <dfcnvt> Like this? replaced-url
1468 [11:49:45] *** Joins: Trellmor (~Trellmor@replaced-ip )
1469 [11:50:25] <dfcnvt> Hm. Same result.
1470 [11:50:57] <dfcnvt> Just a side note - it "work" per se. But only one has a 404 Not Found error.
1471 [11:51:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1535
1472 [11:51:07] *** Joins: andyreplaced-url
1473 [11:51:07] *** Quits: andyreplaced-url
1474 [11:51:08] <dfcnvt> Let me copy/paste the result.
1475 [11:51:18] *** Joins: andyreplaced-url
1476 [11:51:23] *** Quits: andyreplaced-url
1477 [11:51:31] <SlidingHorn> ok
1478 [11:51:45] <coffforcake> hi, i have been trying to install debian 9 recently ,bit i didnt work.i wonder if its an installer problem or something else,because installing debian 8 works.
1479 [11:52:05] <SlidingHorn> coffforcake: what does "doesn't work" mean?
1480 [11:53:12] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
1481 [11:53:22] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Write error: Connection reset by peer)
1482 [11:53:30] <dfcnvt> SlidingHorn: replaced-url
1483 [11:53:42] *** Quits: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
1484 [11:53:44] <dfcnvt> scroll to the bottom of screen.
1485 [11:54:50] *** Joins: BCMM (~BCMM@replaced-ip )
1486 [11:54:56] <coffforcake> the installer hangs when configuring the apt-manager
1487 [11:55:44] *** Quits: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1488 [11:56:13] <dfcnvt> the apt-manager is closed, I ran again with apt-get, same result.
1489 [11:56:48] *** Quits: Rogalian (~cools@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1490 [11:58:10] *** Joins: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip )
1491 [11:59:05] <dfcnvt> Alright, I take it all back guys.
1492 [11:59:07] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1493 [11:59:19] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1494 [11:59:20] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1495 [11:59:20] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1496 [11:59:29] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
1497 [11:59:39] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Write error: Connection reset by peer)
1498 [11:59:49] <dfcnvt> I jumped back to the Packaging Manager and simply deselected the Source (don't need it) and made some change to selected server. Then I ran it again. It works fine.
1499 [11:59:57] <dfcnvt> Problem solved. Case closed.
1500 [12:00:03] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: okay
1501 [12:00:12] *** Quits: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1502 [12:00:22] *** Joins: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip )
1503 [12:00:45] <dfcnvt> Okay, just one more thing.
1504 [12:01:34] <dfcnvt> When I freshly install a new Debian OS -- during that time -- it showed up about non-free package needed to install, in this case - rtl_nic/rtl8168f-1.fw
1505 [12:01:41] *** Joins: debNewBye (33b3653b@replaced-ip )
1506 [12:01:46] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
1507 [12:01:52] <debNewBye> Hi At all
1508 [12:01:56] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1509 [12:02:04] <debNewBye> hi at all! I would like to write a javascript application using node & express.js and deploy it on a Debian linux server owned by me. would there be a way to protect the server's source code in case of theft?
1510 [12:02:11] *** Quits: lankanmon (~LKNnet@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1511 [12:02:12] <dfcnvt> I was not able to do any installation during that time. But nonetheless, I made a note and hold it for later. Now that I am back and got the apt-get to work. How do I proceed to install this firmware?
1512 [12:03:00] <Azrael_-> debNewBye: so when your server is physically stolen you want your source code protected?
1513 [12:03:01] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: sudo apt install firmware-realtek
1514 [12:03:22] <debNewBye> yes Azrael, protected from copy
1515 [12:03:32] <debNewBye> If i crypt my hard drive
1516 [12:03:52] <Azrael_-> debNewBye: crypt your hard drive, this should protect it from being copied
1517 [12:03:54] <debNewBye> I think that i need to insert a password every time for boot
1518 [12:03:54] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: correction: i use sudo - you can su to root and do apt install firmware-realtek if you don't
1519 [12:04:00] *** Quits: pifpafpouf (~pifpafpou@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1520 [12:04:06] <debNewBye> is correct?
1521 [12:04:33] *** Joins: Rogalian (~cools@replaced-ip )
1522 [12:04:44] <dfcnvt> SlidingHorn: Done. Now what's the next step?
1523 [12:04:57] *** Joins: pifpafpouf (~pifpafpou@replaced-ip )
1524 [12:05:01] <Azrael_-> debNewBye: please state your question again completely
1525 [12:05:14] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: that's it...that includes the firmware package it wanted you to install replaced-url
1526 [12:05:34] <debNewBye> ok sorry Azrael, this is my question:
1527 [12:05:43] *** Quits: chenchacha (~chenchach@replaced-ip ) (Quit: chenchacha)
1528 [12:05:48] <dfcnvt> Yea, it's installed...Now I'm not sure if I need to do further action -- to install the specific firmware as stated.
1529 [12:06:01] <dfcnvt> modprobe or something the like.
1530 [12:06:12] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: does your wifi work?
1531 [12:06:22] <dfcnvt> It pose problematics.
1532 [12:06:24] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
1533 [12:06:33] *** Joins: raven666 (~raven666@replaced-ip )
1534 [12:06:42] *** Quits: raven666 (~raven666@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1535 [12:06:43] *** Joins: kliq (~cliq@replaced-ip )
1536 [12:06:44] <dfcnvt> It's able to see the list of AP...but it's not able to connect.
1537 [12:07:09] *** Quits: sibyakin (~sibyakin@replaced-ip ) ()
1538 [12:07:10] <dfcnvt> So, I had to use phyical connection temporarily...Trying to get the wifi to work. And I think this firmware is the solution.
1539 [12:07:52] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1540 [12:08:34] <debNewBye> I write a program with express.js so I create a web server for my purposes. I install this application in a small server in my possession at home If the server is stolen, there is a possibility that the thief will change the root password and access the entire contents of the hard disk, including the source code. Since javascript is not a fillable language, I would like to protect my source code from the eyes of an attacker.
1541 [12:08:57] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: you may need to reboot so the kernel recognizes the new firmware package
1542 [12:09:10] *** Joins: sibyakin (~sibyakin@replaced-ip )
1543 [12:09:24] <dfcnvt> SlidingHorn: Agreed, going to do that (will come back to confirm with you)
1544 [12:09:40] *** Quits: Rogalian (~cools@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1545 [12:10:01] *** Quits: dselect (~dselect@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ouch... that hurt)
1546 [12:10:01] <dfcnvt> debNewBye: I think you'd want to look into chmod command -- it changes permission level to the files on which can be made to public or not.
1547 [12:10:15] <dfcnvt> (brb)
1548 [12:10:19] *** Quits: dfcnvt (~tagraf@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
1549 [12:10:40] *** Quits: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1550 [12:10:41] *** Quits: ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1551 [12:10:50] <Azrael_-> debNewBye: if you encrypt your harddrive, or at least the part where the source-code is stored, then the thief can't access it without the password. if he has access to your server while it is still running and your disk is still mounted with the pw, then he can read everything. if he knows about the encryption before stealing he can take a lot of technical effort and try to recover the pw from
1552 [12:10:51] <Azrael_-> the still running machine (in case of having physical access+time). although this is VERY unlikely
1553 [12:11:06] *** Joins: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
1554 [12:11:09] *** Joins: dselect (~dselect@replaced-ip )
1555 [12:11:27] *** Quits: oish (~charlie@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1556 [12:13:22] <debNewBye> Azrael I thought about it, but since it is a web server written in express.js I need to start it without entering a password every time ...
1557 [12:13:44] *** Quits: dcpc007 (~dcpc007__@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1558 [12:14:20] <debNewBye> so so my server has to start automatically when it is turned on. I can not always enter the password every time
1559 [12:14:32] <Azrael_-> either enter your pw every time or store the pw on the webserver (making the encryption useless) or omit restarting it or forget the whole idea
1560 [12:14:40] *** Joins: dfcnvt (~tagraf@replaced-ip )
1561 [12:14:52] <dfcnvt> SlidingHorn: Back.
1562 [12:15:00] <dfcnvt> Okay, going to test wifi.
1563 [12:15:00] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: how'd we do?
1564 [12:15:03] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1565 [12:15:03] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1566 [12:15:03] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1567 [12:15:27] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1568 [12:16:01] <Azrael_-> debNewBye: before using encryption against normal theft it is easier to increase the obstacles to allow the theft itself
1569 [12:16:04] *** Joins: mel00010 (~mel00010@replaced-ip )
1570 [12:16:20] *** Quits: sdx23 (~sdx23@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1571 [12:16:26] <dfcnvt> .
1572 [12:16:27] *** Joins: sdx23 (~sdx23@replaced-ip )
1573 [12:16:34] <debNewBye> what if I think of memorizing the password on the same web server? is not it useless?
1574 [12:16:37] *** Quits: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1575 [12:16:39] <dfcnvt> Not able to connect.
1576 [12:16:47] <dfcnvt> SlidingHorn: Not able to connect.
1577 [12:16:55] *** Joins: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip )
1578 [12:16:58] <dfcnvt> I guess I need to look into log.
1579 [12:17:05] <dfcnvt> But which log is the right one?
1580 [12:18:14] *** Joins: Darcidride (~Darcidrid@replaced-ip )
1581 [12:18:17] *** Joins: dowwie (~dowwie@replaced-ip )
1582 [12:18:17] *** Quits: dowwie (~dowwie@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1583 [12:18:17] *** Joins: dowwie (~dowwie@replaced-ip )
1584 [12:18:43] *** Joins: ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@replaced-ip )
1585 [12:18:52] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: let's try this first: sudo nano /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf add this (\ = new line) [device]\wifi.scan-rand-mac-address=no then either su to root or sudo systemctl restart NetworkManager
1586 [12:18:59] <Azrael_-> debNewBye: if you store the pw on the same server the thief could find out where it is stored and uses it. you can store the pw somewhere else and automatically retrieve the pw over the network/internet but then the attacker would still have access if you don't put it offline fast enough.
1587 [12:19:24] <debNewBye> would there be the possibility to store the password on another server (maybe online) so that every time the home server goes back to get the key online? If I steal the server I could simply delete the record on the online server and inhibit access. what do you think about it?
1588 [12:19:34] <dfcnvt> SlidingHorn: Okay, hold.
1589 [12:19:51] *** Joins: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1590 [12:20:02] *** Joins: Rogalian (~cools@replaced-ip )
1591 [12:20:05] *** Quits: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: pax)
1592 [12:20:27] *** Quits: ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1593 [12:20:28] *** Quits: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1594 [12:20:36] *** Quits: Haxxa (~Harrison@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1595 [12:20:54] *** Joins: rek (~rek@replaced-ip )
1596 [12:21:16] *** Joins: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip )
1597 [12:21:17] <debNewBye> For example, does LUKS give me the chance to go and get a key from the internet before booting?
1598 [12:21:20] *** Quits: Tom__ (~tomg@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1599 [12:21:34] <Azrael_-> debNewBye: afaik not automatically, you'd have to build something yourself
1600 [12:21:47] *** Joins: Tom__ (~tomg@replaced-ip )
1601 [12:22:14] *** Quits: hele (~hele@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
1602 [12:22:53] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
1603 [12:23:03] *** Joins: Haxxa (~Harrison@replaced-ip )
1604 [12:23:39] *** Quits: bnw (~bnw@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1605 [12:24:14] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1606 [12:24:37] *** Quits: uNmowed (~Kaede@replaced-ip##) (Quit: KVIrc 4.9.3 Aria ##replaced-url
1607 [12:25:46] *** Quits: dfcnvt (~tagraf@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1608 [12:25:54] *** Quits: Cuechan (~paul@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Cuechan)
1609 [12:26:28] *** Joins: Cuechan (~paul@replaced-ip )
1610 [12:26:36] *** Joins: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip )
1611 [12:26:44] <debNewBye> maybe an obfuscator?
1612 [12:27:32] *** Joins: dfcnvt (~tagraf@replaced-ip )
1613 [12:27:43] *** Joins: nighty-- (~nighty@replaced-ip )
1614 [12:28:01] <dfcnvt> SlidingHorn: Did you get my last message?
1615 [12:28:39] *** Quits: Cuechan (~paul@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1616 [12:28:48] <Azrael_-> debNewBye: an obfuscator only makes thins a little bit more difficult to read, not using it. basically an obfuscator is quite useless in most scenarios
1617 [12:29:19] *** Quits: Syndicate2090 (~Syndicate@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1618 [12:29:46] <debNewBye> Yes, I agree with you :-(
1619 [12:30:25] <dfcnvt> SlidingHorn: It worked. How did you came to think about adding [device] line to the NetworkManager.conf file? I mean, either you researched on google and guess its solution or you had your first-hand experience and knows some solutions to it.
1620 [12:30:41] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1621 [12:30:41] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1622 [12:30:41] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1623 [12:30:45] <dfcnvt> Either way, it worked. I can now disconnect it physically and enjoy my wireless. :)
1624 [12:31:38] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: glad it worked! My google-fu is strong :P
1625 [12:31:55] <dfcnvt> SlidingHorn: I see, but seriously -- what query did you use via googling?
1626 [12:32:02] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1627 [12:32:36] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: debian wifi can't connect
1628 [12:32:47] *** Quits: sphenxes (~sphenxes@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1629 [12:33:05] <dfcnvt> lol, I see it there.
1630 [12:33:14] <dfcnvt> SlidingHorn: replaced-url
1631 [12:33:21] *** Quits: BlueByte_ (~walther@replaced-ip ) (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
1632 [12:34:05] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: saw that first, then the next result "how to fix can't connect to wifi..." was kind of a confirmation for me
1633 [12:34:42] *** Quits: electro33 (uid613@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
1634 [12:35:32] *** Quits: enki (~enki@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1635 [12:35:34] <dfcnvt> SlidingHorn: I thought you'd might be searching something like, "NetworkManager config file realtek wifi" or something like that
1636 [12:36:25] *** Quits: sedo (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1637 [12:36:58] *** Joins: Wharncliffe (~coffee@replaced-ip )
1638 [12:37:02] *** Joins: sedo (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1639 [12:37:03] *** Joins: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip )
1640 [12:37:07] <dfcnvt> Maybe I need to polish my google-fu...To type the most simplistic general phrase that's likely to show up.
1641 [12:37:09] *** Quits: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1642 [12:37:21] *** Tempesta_ is now known as Tempesta
1643 [12:37:22] *** Quits: Tempesta (Tempesta@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1644 [12:37:22] *** Joins: Tempesta (Tempesta@replaced-ip )
1645 [12:37:52] *** Joins: enki (~enki@replaced-ip )
1646 [12:38:12] *** Joins: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip )
1647 [12:41:05] *** Quits: WhatisRT (~whatisrt@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1648 [12:41:33] *** Quits: crimson_king (~NEOalquim@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1649 [12:42:13] <rek> you like amd uhhh
1650 [12:44:23] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1651 [12:46:25] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1652 [12:46:26] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1653 [12:46:26] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1654 [12:47:25] *** Joins: fstd_ (~fstd@replaced-ip )
1655 [12:47:46] *** Quits: DJ-ArcAngel (arcangel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
1656 [12:48:10] *** Joins: Ilyas (uid43013@replaced-ip )
1657 [12:48:29] *** Quits: pifpafpouf (~pifpafpou@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1658 [12:49:00] *** Joins: pifpafpouf (~pifpafpou@replaced-ip )
1659 [12:50:14] *** Quits: fstd (~fstd@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1660 [12:50:16] *** fstd_ is now known as fstd
1661 [12:53:34] *** Quits: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1662 [12:53:57] *** Joins: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip )
1663 [12:55:16] <Tywin> How can I set gcc-8 as the default version when compiling?
1664 [12:55:18] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
1665 [12:55:52] <Tywin> update-alternatives is giving me a choice of only between clang and gcc
1666 [12:57:07] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1667 [12:57:49] <nkuttler> Tywin: which command did you use?
1668 [12:58:27] *** Joins: geoid (~geoid@replaced-ip )
1669 [12:58:28] *** Joins: turfrex (~py@replaced-ip )
1670 [12:58:40] <Tywin> nkuttler, update-alternatives --list cc/cpp/c++
1671 [12:59:08] *** Quits: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1672 [12:59:53] <nkuttler> doesn't look like gcc itself uses alternatives for the default gcc
1673 [13:00:01] *** Joins: Vizva (~Vizva@replaced-ip )
1674 [13:00:05] *** Quits: geoid (~geoid@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1675 [13:00:28] *** Quits: pnepe6_ (~pnepe6@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1676 [13:00:28] *** Quits: pnepe6 (~pnepe6@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1677 [13:00:29] <nkuttler> probably because on stable gcc is supposed to be the same..
1678 [13:00:32] <nkuttler> ,v gcc-8
1679 [13:00:33] <judd> Package: gcc-8 on amd64 -- buster: 8.1.0-1; sid: 8.1.0-1
1680 [13:00:37] *** Joins: geoid (~geoid@replaced-ip )
1681 [13:00:38] <Tywin> nkuttler, how can I force version 8 whenever gcc is called?
1682 [13:00:47] *** Joins: brokencycle (~brokencyc@replaced-ip )
1683 [13:00:48] <Tywin> Do I have to do this manually? -_-
1684 [13:00:50] <nkuttler> change the symlink yourself?
1685 [13:01:04] *** Quits: iulian_ (~iulian@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1686 [13:01:24] <nkuttler> although, you should probably configure the build correctly
1687 [13:01:38] <nkuttler> e.g. use gcc-8 as compiler, not gcc or cc or whatever
1688 [13:01:59] <nkuttler> !debian-next
1689 [13:01:59] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
1690 [13:02:06] <nkuttler> see also that channel for all testing support
1691 [13:02:06] <blaztek> Tywin: you can also set CC to gcc-8
1692 [13:02:07] <Tywin> nkuttler, oh well. I'll just do that.
1693 [13:02:10] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1694 [13:02:10] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1695 [13:02:10] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1696 [13:02:49] <Tywin> Thanks
1697 [13:02:58] *** Joins: lldd_ (~atrapado@replaced-ip )
1698 [13:03:27] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1699 [13:03:39] *** Joins: dethos (~dethos@replaced-ip )
1700 [13:04:33] *** Joins: Cuechan (~paul@replaced-ip )
1701 [13:04:48] *** Quits: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1702 [13:04:57] *** Quits: geoid (~geoid@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1703 [13:05:02] *** Quits: dpkg (~dpkg@replaced-ip ) (Quit: buh bye!)
1704 [13:05:33] *** Joins: dpkg (~dpkg@replaced-ip )
1705 [13:06:59] *** Quits: dfcnvt (~tagraf@replaced-ip ) (Read error: No route to host)
1706 [13:07:03] *** Quits: pifpafpouf (~pifpafpou@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1707 [13:07:24] *** Joins: HerbY_NL2 (~HerbY_NL2@replaced-ip )
1708 [13:07:38] *** Quits: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1709 [13:08:07] *** Joins: lankanmon (~LKNnet@replaced-ip )
1710 [13:08:26] *** Quits: r00ter (~r00ter@replaced-ip ) (Disconnected by services)
1711 [13:08:27] *** Quits: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1712 [13:08:30] *** Joins: r00ter (~r00ter@replaced-ip )
1713 [13:08:46] *** Joins: WhatisRT (~whatisrt@replaced-ip )
1714 [13:09:13] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
1715 [13:09:17] *** Quits: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1716 [13:09:21] *** Quits: Wharncliffe (~coffee@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1717 [13:09:32] *** Joins: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip )
1718 [13:09:37] *** Joins: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1719 [13:11:02] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1720 [13:13:03] *** Quits: zifxify (~zifxify@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - ##replaced-url
1721 [13:14:06] *** Joins: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip )
1722 [13:14:29] *** Quits: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1723 [13:15:17] *** Joins: zifxify (~zifxify@replaced-ip )
1724 [13:16:29] *** Quits: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: dionysus69)
1725 [13:16:52] *** Joins: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1726 [13:17:48] *** Quits: fred3 (~fred@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1727 [13:17:51] *** Quits: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1728 [13:18:17] *** Joins: BlueByte_ (~walther@replaced-ip )
1729 [13:18:29] *** Joins: fred3 (~fred@replaced-ip )
1730 [13:18:34] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1731 [13:18:38] *** Joins: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip )
1732 [13:18:51] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1733 [13:18:52] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1734 [13:18:52] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
1735 [13:18:52] *** Quits: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1736 [13:18:57] *** Quits: Haxxa (~Harrison@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1737 [13:21:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1529
1738 [13:21:06] *** Joins: herbert (~herbert@replaced-ip )
1739 [13:21:08] *** Joins: jazz (~jazz@replaced-ip )
1740 [13:21:14] *** Quits: Darcidride (~Darcidrid@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1741 [13:21:38] *** Joins: Haxxa (~Harrison@replaced-ip )
1742 [13:22:03] *** Quits: herbert (~herbert@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1743 [13:22:04] *** Joins: earthundead (~earthunde@replaced-ip )
1744 [13:22:12] *** Joins: herbert (~herbert@replaced-ip )
1745 [13:22:24] *** Quits: Tiffon (~name@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1746 [13:22:41] *** Joins: nuuuciano__ (~luuuciano@replaced-ip )
1747 [13:22:53] *** Quits: herbert (~herbert@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1748 [13:23:05] *** Joins: HerbY_NL3 (~HerbY_NL2@replaced-ip )
1749 [13:23:13] *** Quits: HerbY_NL3 (~HerbY_NL2@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1750 [13:23:14] *** Joins: chomwitt (~chomwitt@replaced-ip )
1751 [13:23:18] *** Joins: towo` (~towo@replaced-ip )
1752 [13:23:29] *** Joins: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1753 [13:24:42] *** Quits: HerbY_NL2 (~HerbY_NL2@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1754 [13:24:44] *** Quits: Cuechan (~paul@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Cuechan)
1755 [13:25:14] *** Quits: Haohmaru (~Haohmaru@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1756 [13:26:07] *** Joins: Cuechan (~paul@replaced-ip )
1757 [13:28:46] *** Quits: coffforcake (~coffforca@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1758 [13:29:18] *** Joins: holden- (~holden-@replaced-ip )
1759 [13:29:56] *** Quits: debNewBye (33b3653b@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Page closed)
1760 [13:31:36] *** Joins: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip )
1761 [13:32:03] *** Quits: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
1762 [13:33:53] *** Joins: Haohmaru (~Haohmaru@replaced-ip )
1763 [13:34:55] *** Quits: ledixus (ledixus@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Tschö mit Ö)
1764 [13:35:07] *** Joins: keka (~keka@replaced-ip )
1765 [13:35:39] *** Joins: Wharncliffe (~coffee@replaced-ip )
1766 [13:36:32] *** Joins: dendazen (~dendazen@replaced-ip )
1767 [13:37:44] *** Joins: CafeinOverdose2 (~juniardiv@replaced-ip )
1768 [13:38:10] *** Quits: holden- (~holden-@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1769 [13:38:28] *** Joins: Brigo (~Brigo@replaced-ip )
1770 [13:38:48] *** Quits: P1ersson (~P1ersson@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1771 [13:39:55] *** Joins: revmoo (~brian@replaced-ip )
1772 [13:40:32] <revmoo> trying to upgrade from 17.10 to 18.04 I get Upgrades to the development release are only available from the latest supported release, even running do-release-upgrade -d
1773 [13:40:43] <revmoo> what am I missing? I've tried all the tips from googling on this
1774 [13:41:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1535
1775 [13:41:17] <bites> revmoo: what you are missing is the name of this channel :P
1776 [13:41:24] <revmoo> hahah sorry
1777 [13:41:24] *** Parts: revmoo (~brian@replaced-ip ) ()
1778 [13:41:35] *** Quits: Haohmaru (~Haohmaru@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1779 [13:41:51] <bites> or maybe he was from the future!
1780 [13:41:56] *** Joins: ledixus (ledixus@replaced-ip )
1781 [13:41:57] *** Joins: qman__ (quassel@replaced-ip )
1782 [13:43:30] *** Quits: Wharncliffe (~coffee@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
1783 [13:45:06] *** Quits: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1784 [13:45:27] *** Joins: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip )
1785 [13:48:58] *** Quits: well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
1786 [13:49:06] *** Quits: Eryn_1983_FL (~Eryn_1983@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1)
1787 [13:49:27] *** Joins: jerdef82 (~jerdef@replaced-ip )
1788 [13:49:47] *** Quits: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1789 [13:49:59] *** Quits: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1790 [13:50:10] *** Joins: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip )
1791 [13:50:42] *** Joins: bazabanga (~alex@replaced-ip )
1792 [13:51:04] *** Joins: drunknigga (~ignoramus@replaced-ip )
1793 [13:51:08] <drunknigga> i need help
1794 [13:51:34] *** Quits: Rogalian (~cools@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
1795 [13:51:45] *** Joins: craigp (~craigp@replaced-ip )
1796 [13:51:57] *** Joins: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip )
1797 [13:52:07] *** Joins: Rogalian (~cools@replaced-ip )
1798 [13:52:22] *** Joins: mkjm23 (~swarup@replaced-ip )
1799 [13:52:27] *** Joins: Haohmaru (~Haohmaru@replaced-ip )
1800 [13:53:35] *** Quits: mkjm23 (~swarup@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1801 [14:01:28] *** Quits: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1802 [14:01:28] *** Quits: drunknigga (~ignoramus@replaced-ip ) (Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.)))
1803 [14:01:28] *** Quits: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1804 [14:01:28] *** Joins: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip )
1805 [14:01:28] *** Quits: dza2 (~dza@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1806 [14:01:28] *** Quits: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1807 [14:01:28] <keka> have a nice day folks, need to power off :)
1808 [14:01:28] *** Joins: dza2 (~dza@replaced-ip )
1809 [14:01:28] *** Quits: Haohmaru (~Haohmaru@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1810 [14:01:28] *** Quits: keka (~keka@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1811 [14:01:28] *** Joins: enissay2 (~root@replaced-ip )
1812 [14:01:33] *** Quits: wkalt (~wkalt@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1813 [14:03:22] *** Quits: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1814 [14:03:47] *** Joins: kai_w (~kai_w@replaced-ip )
1815 [14:05:16] *** Quits: CeRVaNTeS (~CeRVaNTeS@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Ex-Chat)
1816 [14:05:24] *** Joins: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip )
1817 [14:05:56] *** Quits: esainane (esainane@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1818 [14:07:00] *** Joins: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip )
1819 [14:07:15] *** Joins: iulian_ (~iulian@replaced-ip )
1820 [14:07:43] *** Quits: Rogalian (~cools@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1821 [14:07:47] *** Quits: pringao (~pringau@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1822 [14:08:17] *** Joins: pringau (~pringau@replaced-ip )
1823 [14:09:17] *** Joins: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip )
1824 [14:09:44] *** Joins: candidat (~zark@replaced-ip )
1825 [14:11:12] *** Quits: Cuechan (~paul@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Cuechan)
1826 [14:14:05] *** Joins: Meerkat (~meerkat@replaced-ip )
1827 [14:15:03] *** Joins: phil (b4bd93b2@replaced-ip )
1828 [14:15:06] <Meerkat> Why are changelogs for updates so rarely available? It bothers me :/
1829 [14:15:26] *** phil is now known as Guest43647
1830 [14:15:27] *** Joins: geoid (~geoid@replaced-ip )
1831 [14:15:29] *** Quits: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1832 [14:15:52] <babilen> Meerkat: I don't quite follow - every package update comes with a changelog, so they are anything but "rarely available"
1833 [14:16:09] <SlidingHorn> Meerkat: as far as I'm aware, there are always changelogs
1834 [14:17:08] <babilen> Meerkat: What kind of changelogs are you looking for and where have you looked so far?
1835 [14:17:30] *** Joins: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
1836 [14:17:43] *** Joins: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip )
1837 [14:17:51] *** Quits: bazabanga (~alex@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1838 [14:17:51] *** Quits: CafeinOverdose2 (~juniardiv@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1839 [14:17:53] *** Joins: shinnya (~shinnya@replaced-ip )
1840 [14:18:16] *** Joins: CafeinOverdose2 (~juniardiv@replaced-ip )
1841 [14:18:38] <Meerkat> wget update 1.18-5+deb9u2 returns "Changelog unavailable for wget=1.18-5+deb9u2 (404 Not Found [IP: 151.101.84.204 80])" using synaptic, apt, apt-get, and aptitude.
1842 [14:19:26] <Meerkat> same for libwavpack1 and the latest kernel update for Deb9.
1843 [14:19:39] <jelly> they're in the package however. You can install apt-listchanges and review before (choosing to) upgrade with apt/apt-get/aptitude
1844 [14:19:58] *** Joins: esainane (quassel@replaced-ip )
1845 [14:20:45] *** Quits: earthundead (~earthunde@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1846 [14:20:47] <SlidingHorn> Meerkat: also, if you've already installed and are looking to see changes afterward, see /usr/share/doc/$packagename/changelog.Debian.gz
1847 [14:21:04] *** Joins: Rogalian (~cools@replaced-ip )
1848 [14:22:09] *** Joins: Haohmaru (~Haohmaru@replaced-ip )
1849 [14:22:23] *** Joins: fyrril (~fyrril@replaced-ip )
1850 [14:22:52] *** Joins: dohfish (~oemillak@replaced-ip )
1851 [14:23:10] *** Quits: turfal (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1852 [14:24:04] <Guest43647> Anyone good with stretch exim4 talking to mysys (mariadb)? I am getting "exim4 -bt" works but remote mail results in "MYSQL connection failed: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost'" for the same address.
1853 [14:24:26] *** Quits: enki (~enki@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
1854 [14:24:48] *** Joins: nobodi (~nobodi@replaced-ip )
1855 [14:25:50] *** Joins: enki (~enki@replaced-ip )
1856 [14:27:02] *** Joins: zabow (~zabow@replaced-ip )
1857 [14:27:35] *** Quits: altin (~altin@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1858 [14:27:38] *** Joins: vidarr (~vidr@replaced-ip )
1859 [14:29:10] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
1860 [14:29:20] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1861 [14:29:49] *** Joins: coffforcake (~coffforca@replaced-ip )
1862 [14:30:21] *** Quits: uptime (alore@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1863 [14:30:48] *** Joins: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip )
1864 [14:30:57] *** Quits: boturk (boturk@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1865 [14:31:01] *** Quits: DrDaemonEye (~daemoneye@replaced-ip ) (Quit: -.-. .-..)
1866 [14:31:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1541
1867 [14:31:37] *** Joins: donald (~donald@replaced-ip )
1868 [14:32:24] *** Parts: donald (~donald@replaced-ip ) ()
1869 [14:32:36] *** Quits: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1870 [14:33:08] *** Quits: percY- (~percY@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1871 [14:33:20] *** Joins: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip )
1872 [14:33:20] *** Quits: foriin (solaris@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1873 [14:33:45] *** Quits: coffforcake (~coffforca@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1874 [14:34:10] *** Quits: vidarr (~vidr@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
1875 [14:36:17] *** Joins: percY- (~percY@replaced-ip )
1876 [14:37:08] *** Quits: slv (~slv@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1877 [14:38:09] <Guest43647> #leave
1878 [14:38:31] *** Parts: Guest43647 (b4bd93b2@replaced-ip ) ()
1879 [14:38:40] *** Quits: percY- (~percY@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1880 [14:38:45] <Haohmaru> #stay
1881 [14:40:40] *** Joins: altin (~altin@replaced-ip )
1882 [14:40:46] *** Joins: nast (~nast@replaced-ip )
1883 [14:41:37] *** Quits: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1884 [14:43:18] *** Joins: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip )
1885 [14:43:25] *** Joins: dutchfish (~wil@replaced-ip )
1886 [14:44:51] *** Quits: nobodi (~nobodi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1887 [14:46:03] *** Quits: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
1888 [14:46:49] *** Joins: diniwed (~gavron@replaced-ip )
1889 [14:47:22] *** Quits: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1890 [14:47:24] *** Joins: st-gourichon-f (~Stephane@replaced-ip )
1891 [14:47:44] *** Joins: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip )
1892 [14:48:09] *** Quits: CafeinOverdose2 (~juniardiv@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1893 [14:48:28] *** Joins: splinux (~damien@replaced-ip )
1894 [14:48:30] *** Quits: st-gourichon-fid (~Stephane@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1895 [14:49:01] *** Quits: WhatisRT (~whatisrt@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1896 [14:49:05] *** Joins: CafeinOverdose2 (~juniardiv@replaced-ip )
1897 [14:49:25] *** Joins: WhatisRT (~whatisrt@replaced-ip )
1898 [14:49:39] *** OtakuSenpai is now known as Nawab
1899 [14:53:25] *** Joins: WhatisRT_ (~whatisrt@replaced-ip )
1900 [14:54:08] *** Joins: NerdTheThird (~NerdTheTh@replaced-ip )
1901 [14:55:55] *** Quits: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1902 [14:56:20] *** Joins: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip )
1903 [14:57:00] *** Quits: WhatisRT (~whatisrt@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1904 [14:57:38] *** Quits: Gurty (~princess@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1905 [14:57:58] *** Quits: CafeinOverdose2 (~juniardiv@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1906 [14:58:53] *** Joins: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip )
1907 [14:59:23] *** Joins: greycat (~wooledg@replaced-ip )
1908 [15:00:48] *** Joins: freddy_fcch (~freddy_fc@replaced-ip )
1909 [15:01:29] *** Joins: nobodi (~nobodi@replaced-ip )
1910 [15:02:05] *** Quits: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1911 [15:02:07] <dutchfish> hi, how can i make apt-listbugs to show the list of bugs/remarks it showed on aptitude update && aptitude upgrade, again?
1912 [15:02:35] <greycat> look for a NEWS.* file in /usr/share/doc/thatpackage/
1913 [15:02:50] <greycat> could be tricky if you don't know which package it was
1914 [15:03:21] *** Quits: Guest17381 (~freddy_fc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1915 [15:03:23] <rek> hi greycat bootstrapping takes so long
1916 [15:03:27] <dutchfish> greycat, yes, i was to quick accepting the upgrade and failed to properly notice its remarks
1917 [15:03:31] <greycat> actually look for a NEWS.Debian.gz file specifically; other NEWS* files don't count
1918 [15:03:47] <themill> (apt-listbugs not apt-listchanges)
1919 [15:03:59] <greycat> oh
1920 [15:04:07] *** Joins: jhutchins_wk (~jonathan@replaced-ip )
1921 [15:04:26] *** Joins: boturk (boturk@replaced-ip )
1922 [15:04:44] *** Quits: DeeAitch (~oops@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1923 [15:05:05] *** Quits: nast (~nast@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1924 [15:05:25] <dutchfish> or any way, i can make apt-listbugs show the bugs for the currently installed packages?
1925 [15:05:27] *** Quits: FuturePilot (~Fufu@replaced-ip ) (Quit: MAYBE IF YOU DIDN'T SHOUT SO MUCH)
1926 [15:05:37] <greycat> ALL of them?!
1927 [15:05:53] <greycat> my god, I can't even get through a bug list for ONE package
1928 [15:05:57] <dutchfish> greycat, nah, just -s critical for ALL packages
1929 [15:05:59] *** Quits: paulgrmn (~paulgrmn@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1930 [15:06:38] <dutchfish> OR apt-listbugs is currently broken on testing
1931 [15:06:53] <dutchfish> but i gues its just me
1932 [15:07:10] *** Joins: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip )
1933 [15:07:55] *** Quits: freddy_fcch (~freddy_fc@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1934 [15:10:05] *** Joins: FuturePilot (~Fufu@replaced-ip )
1935 [15:10:19] *** Joins: freddy (~freddy_fc@replaced-ip )
1936 [15:10:42] *** freddy is now known as Guest62627
1937 [15:10:45] *** Joins: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip )
1938 [15:11:01] *** Quits: WhatisRT_ (~whatisrt@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1939 [15:11:44] *** Joins: SilicateWielder (d8385486@replaced-ip )
1940 [15:12:03] *** Quits: remedan (~remedan@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.6.5+deb1 - ##replaced-url
1941 [15:12:35] <SilicateWielder> Hi, could someone help me get Steam working? from the research I've done I'm seeing that I'm missing libxcb1:i386 though I already have the most current version.
1942 [15:13:29] *** Quits: hexnewbie (~hexnewbie@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1943 [15:13:29] <SilicateWielder> home/silicate/.local/share/Steam/steam.sh reports "line 444: no match: ssfn*"
1944 [15:14:45] *** Joins: jken (~jarred@replaced-ip )
1945 [15:14:55] <jken> Hello, can anyone tell me if it is possible to configure the initial mouse pointer position when X starts? I am currently doing it via xdotool in .xinitrc, but am trying to move it out of the way even earlier if possible.
1946 [15:15:09] <SlidingHorn> SilicateWielder: what method did you use to install steam?
1947 [15:15:27] *** Quits: BlueByte_ (~walther@replaced-ip ) (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
1948 [15:15:33] <tw> SilicateWielder: did you follow this? replaced-url
1949 [15:16:08] <SlidingHorn> jken: That'd be the way to do it as far as I know...do you have other commands in your .xinitrc? Maybe make the pointer position the 1st item?
1950 [15:16:27] <SilicateWielder> Steam is installed from a debian package provided on the steam website
1951 [15:16:29] *** Quits: nuuuciano__ (~luuuciano@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1952 [15:16:41] <tw> SilicateWielder: this is the method I use for Steam, but it's a chroot and only set up for nvidia: replaced-url
1953 [15:16:53] <SilicateWielder> or was, I had some driver issues so I later installed it from apt
1954 [15:17:42] <jken> SlidingHorn, It is already the first thing in my .xinitrc
1955 [15:18:16] *** Joins: hexnewbie (~hexnewbie@replaced-ip )
1956 [15:18:17] *** Quits: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
1957 [15:18:38] *** Joins: remedan (~remedan@replaced-ip )
1958 [15:18:51] <jken> I wonder if openbox is centering the mouse, it's the last thing started in my xinitrc
1959 [15:19:01] *** Joins: electro33 (uid613@replaced-ip )
1960 [15:19:11] <SilicateWielder> Ah, if this was my desktop I'd try the method you linked but I'm currently on a laptop with integrated radeon graphics
1961 [15:19:29] *** Joins: hanfm (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1962 [15:20:45] *** Joins: uptime (alore@replaced-ip )
1963 [15:21:09] <tw> SilicateWielder: looks like the only reference to nvidia is that nvidia-driver-libs. If there's an equivalent package for amdgpu, you might be in business.
1964 [15:22:56] *** Quits: ongolaBoy (~ongolaBoy@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1965 [15:23:00] *** Quits: ehlodex (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
1966 [15:23:14] *** Joins: ehlodex (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1967 [15:24:10] <SilicateWielder> I tried purging and reinstalling, apparently I can run steam using the path ~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam
1968 [15:24:26] <tw> How do you expect to run it that it isn't working?
1969 [15:24:47] <SilicateWielder> however the school network i'm on is blocking it from performing the update it needs to run
1970 [15:25:18] <SilicateWielder> I was just using the steam command prior to this, which has worked for me before with other distros of linux
1971 [15:25:50] <tw> Probably not related, but if you're on stretch, be sure to install that libdb5.1 package from jessie.
1972 [15:26:05] <tw> Otherwise the steam browser doesn't work.
1973 [15:26:14] <SilicateWielder> okay, thanks for the heads up
1974 [15:26:36] <tw> you need both the i386 and amd64 packages, most likely.
1975 [15:26:52] <tw> There's an open bug on the steam linux github about it.
1976 [15:27:15] *** Joins: Tom01 (~tom@replaced-ip )
1977 [15:29:33] *** Quits: epanda (~epanda@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1978 [15:30:10] *** Joins: ben_roose (~roose@replaced-ip )
1979 [15:30:50] *** Quits: SilicateWielder (d8385486@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1980 [15:32:25] <cluelessperson> tw: Steam is 32 bit, so yes
1981 [15:33:24] *** Quits: Rogalian (~cools@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1982 [15:34:36] *** Joins: dolphy (~kramer@replaced-ip )
1983 [15:34:39] *** Quits: JohnML (~john1@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1984 [15:34:57] *** Joins: JohnML (~john1@replaced-ip )
1985 [15:36:00] *** Joins: AlexPortable (uid7568@replaced-ip )
1986 [15:38:00] *** Quits: tsurko (~tsurko@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1987 [15:38:23] *** Joins: imfearless (~imfearles@replaced-ip )
1988 [15:39:24] *** Joins: Rogalian (~cools@replaced-ip )
1989 [15:39:25] *** Joins: percY- (~percY@replaced-ip )
1990 [15:40:28] *** Joins: stealintv (~stealintv@replaced-ip )
1991 [15:40:38] *** Joins: freddy_fcch (~freddy_fc@replaced-ip )
1992 [15:41:58] *** Joins: epanda (~epanda@replaced-ip )
1993 [15:42:15] *** Quits: epanda (~epanda@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
1994 [15:42:32] *** Joins: epergny (~user@replaced-ip )
1995 [15:42:44] *** Joins: epanda (~epanda@replaced-ip )
1996 [15:42:46] *** Quits: epanda (~epanda@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
1997 [15:42:50] *** Quits: Kevlar_Noir (~lexou@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1998 [15:43:05] *** Quits: Guest62627 (~freddy_fc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1999 [15:43:16] *** Joins: epanda (~epanda@replaced-ip )
2000 [15:43:21] *** Quits: epanda (~epanda@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
2001 [15:43:51] *** Joins: epanda (~epanda@replaced-ip )
2002 [15:44:47] <epergny> Samsung 950 Pro M.2 SSD, I get actual sustained read speed of nearly 1 Gb/s without issue (say "time crc32 8gigfile" in less than 8s), on a full LUKS encrypted drive. However...
2003 [15:45:34] <epergny> I get abysmall write speeds: about 50 MB/s Any idea why? I've searched the net and ppl with similar SSD on encrypted filesystem get 150 MB/s and more.
2004 [15:46:00] <tw> epergny: what algorithms did you select?
2005 [15:46:02] <epergny> Heck, my crappy old laptop with an old SSD, also fully encrypted, gets 120 MB/s sustained write.
2006 [15:46:03] *** Quits: Nawab (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip ) (Quit: good night)
2007 [15:46:07] <epergny> @tw: for LUKS?
2008 [15:46:10] <tw> yes
2009 [15:46:11] *** Joins: bb36e (~bb36e@replaced-ip )
2010 [15:46:27] <epergny> ah no idea: default install I guess. Can this affect write only but not read?
2011 [15:46:47] <tw> Shouldn't but might.
2012 [15:47:20] *** Joins: treehug88 (~textual@replaced-ip )
2013 [15:48:57] *** Joins: WhatisRT (~whatisrt@replaced-ip )
2014 [15:49:33] *** Joins: erdave (~erdave@replaced-ip )
2015 [15:50:18] *** Joins: gjt343 (~gjt@replaced-ip )
2016 [15:50:24] *** Quits: Tywin (~Tywin@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Tywin)
2017 [15:50:46] *** Joins: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip )
2018 [15:51:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1549
2019 [15:51:20] *** Quits: bb36e (~bb36e@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2020 [15:51:27] *** Joins: bb36e__ (~bb36e@replaced-ip )
2021 [15:51:56] <cluelessperson> epergny: look at your system cpu,ram, etc when you perform the tests
2022 [15:52:01] <cluelessperson> identify the bottleneck
2023 [15:52:02] <epergny> cryptsetup benchmark doesn't report any algo slower than 386 MiB/s (twofish-xts). Still don't know which one I'm using.
2024 [15:52:11] *** Joins: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip )
2025 [15:52:11] *** Quits: fred3 (~fred@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2026 [15:52:18] *** Joins: Tywin (~Tywin@replaced-ip )
2027 [15:52:30] <epergny> cluelessperson: I've seen reports on the Debian mailing lists of people booting into text mode, running nothing, having the same issue
2028 [15:53:00] *** Te[u]K` is now known as Te[u]K
2029 [15:53:04] *** Joins: fred3 (~fred@replaced-ip )
2030 [15:53:05] <cluelessperson> epergny: okay, let's start with analyzing the issue
2031 [15:53:11] <cluelessperson> you can't fix it if you can't pinpoint it
2032 [15:53:19] <epergny> cluelessperson: also I don't see what the bottleneck can be when I get 1 Gb/s read and 50 Mb/s write : - / I mean: what would affect write speed but not reads?
2033 [15:53:21] *** Quits: hanfm (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2034 [15:53:46] <cluelessperson> epergny: who knows, analyzing the issue gives us info
2035 [15:53:59] <cluelessperson> epergny: try hdparm and look at advanced options
2036 [15:54:02] *** Joins: LtL (~ltl@replaced-ip )
2037 [15:54:32] <epergny> cluelessperson: but hdparm is good for raw read speeds, but not write : ( I'll check hdparm options see if I can find anything
2038 [15:55:39] *** Joins: GenteelBen (~GenteelBe@replaced-ip )
2039 [15:55:39] *** Joins: RedSoxFan07 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
2040 [15:56:07] *** Joins: Butterfly_ (Butterfly_@replaced-ip )
2041 [15:56:14] *** Parts: Butterfly_ (Butterfly_@replaced-ip ) ("Leaving")
2042 [15:56:44] *** Joins: wutduff (~androirc@replaced-ip )
2043 [15:56:53] <wutduff> Hi there
2044 [15:57:10] <wutduff> In the netinst of debian 9 the live is asking me my domain name
2045 [15:57:20] <wutduff> What if i leave it empty?
2046 [15:57:28] *** Joins: pavanJ (~pavan@replaced-ip )
2047 [15:57:32] *** Quits: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2048 [15:57:35] <wutduff> What should will it happen?
2049 [15:57:36] <greycat> that's usually fine, if you aren't part of an organizewd network
2050 [15:57:41] *** Joins: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip )
2051 [15:57:44] <wutduff> Ok thanks
2052 [15:57:46] *** Quits: WhatisRT (~whatisrt@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2053 [15:57:49] *** Quits: wutduff (~androirc@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2054 [15:58:01] *** Quits: fred3 (~fred@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2055 [15:58:29] *** Joins: fred3 (~fred@replaced-ip )
2056 [15:59:23] *** Quits: enki (~enki@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2057 [15:59:27] <epergny> hdparm -tT /dev/nvme0n1 Timing cached reads: 15 360.67 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 1 274.47 MB/sec
2058 [16:00:06] <epergny> and I definitely close to 1000 MB/sec doing reads on uncached huge files. Bamboozled as to how I get sustained write of only 50 MB/s (that 1/20th the read speed).
2059 [16:00:13] *** Quits: sibyakin (~sibyakin@replaced-ip ) ()
2060 [16:00:51] <cluelessperson> eschwartz: can you show the output for write
2061 [16:00:59] <epergny> sure
2062 [16:02:05] *** Joins: Ozzyboshi (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2063 [16:02:28] *** Joins: Evol (~no@replaced-ip )
2064 [16:02:37] *** Joins: webuser5224 (~webuser52@replaced-ip )
2065 [16:03:04] *** Quits: Madda_ (~Madda@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2066 [16:03:38] <epergny> time dd if=/dev/zero of=/root/delme.tmp conv=fdatasync bs=1M count=1k; both time and dd do "match": dd gives (1.1 GB, 1.0 GiB) copied, 20.0965 s, 53.4 MB/s while "time" gives: real 0m19.803s
2067 [16:03:44] *** Quits: zZzZzZ (~zZzZzZ@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2068 [16:04:00] *** Quits: nobodi (~nobodi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2069 [16:04:00] *** Quits: gjt343 (~gjt@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2070 [16:04:29] *** Joins: fujisan (uid4207@replaced-ip )
2071 [16:04:36] <epergny> 16 GB of RAM, not much used
2072 [16:04:39] <cluelessperson> epergny: what happened to the write results?
2073 [16:04:41] *** Quits: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
2074 [16:04:43] <cluelessperson> for hdparm
2075 [16:05:48] *** Joins: enki (~enki@replaced-ip )
2076 [16:06:17] *** Quits: jken (~jarred@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2077 [16:06:34] <epergny> cluelessperson: I've never seen hdparm recommended to test write speeds (can hdparm even do that?). Reading the --help and googling.
2078 [16:06:36] *** Joins: jbwsgsec (~jbwsgsec@replaced-ip )
2079 [16:06:47] *** Quits: jbwsgsec (~jbwsgsec@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2080 [16:07:32] *** Quits: pavanJ (~pavan@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.2-dev)
2081 [16:08:15] *** Joins: V7 (~v7@replaced-ip )
2082 [16:08:30] *** Joins: uNmowed (~Kaede@replaced-ip )
2083 [16:08:31] <epergny> all I find is: "hdparm does not have the ability to find the write speed".
2084 [16:09:09] *** Joins: maccampus (~maccampus@replaced-ip )
2085 [16:09:33] *** Joins: tsuggs (~tsuggs@replaced-ip )
2086 [16:09:36] *** Joins: foriin (solaris@replaced-ip )
2087 [16:10:24] <epergny> really weird thing is: sustained read speeds of about 1 Gb/s is, I'm willing to bet, was most (not all, but most) users get here while sustained write speeds of about 50 Mb/s is, I'm willing to bet again, probably less than what most get here.
2088 [16:10:47] *** Joins: pavanjadhaw (~pavanjadh@replaced-ip )
2089 [16:10:48] <epergny> erf sentence : )
2090 [16:11:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1555
2091 [16:11:47] <epergny> I may, if I'm bored, install the latest stable Debian on this machine (just installed it on my laptop) and try without disk encryption, with basically nothing. To troobleshoot a bit.
2092 [16:11:59] <jelly> epergny: did you clear cache before testing read throughput?
2093 [16:12:12] *** Joins: l33tspeak (~l33tspeak@replaced-ip )
2094 [16:12:29] *** Joins: jhutchin1_wk (~jonathan@replaced-ip )
2095 [16:12:30] <jelly> and do you mean 1GB/s where you wrote "1 Gb/s"
2096 [16:12:43] <greycat> pretty sure he meant GB in all cases
2097 [16:12:45] <jelly> small b means "bits"
2098 [16:13:23] *** Quits: pavanjadhaw (~pavanjadh@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2099 [16:13:37] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
2100 [16:14:03] <epergny> yup sorry, GB
2101 [16:14:08] *** Joins: bariscant (~bariscant@replaced-ip )
2102 [16:14:28] *** Joins: pifpafpouf (~pifpafpou@replaced-ip )
2103 [16:14:38] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2104 [16:15:16] <epergny> I always make the mistake because in french GB is "Go", not "GO", MB is Mo, etc.
2105 [16:15:19] *** Quits: intcat (~zshlyk@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2106 [16:15:28] *** Quits: jhutchin1_wk (~jonathan@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2107 [16:15:30] <RoyK> erm - don't use hdparm or dd to measure disk speed - use something like fio instead
2108 [16:15:36] *** Quits: jhutchins_wk (~jonathan@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2109 [16:16:17] <jelly> at least Go as a unit is not ambiguous
2110 [16:16:40] <epergny> RoyK: I did better: timing crc32 of a 8 GB file which was clearly not cached. Result are also about 1 GB/s, basically agreeing with hdparm's read speedtest.
2111 [16:16:47] <epergny> RoyK: but I can check fio too
2112 [16:17:25] *** Joins: jhutchins_wk (~jonathan@replaced-ip )
2113 [16:17:52] *** Quits: jhutchins_wk (~jonathan@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2114 [16:18:27] *** Quits: brw (~brw@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2115 [16:18:39] *** Joins: ongolaBoy (~ongolaBoy@replaced-ip )
2116 [16:18:50] *** Joins: istevenmon (~jmoncayo@replaced-ip )
2117 [16:18:57] *** Joins: ehlodex_ (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2118 [16:19:13] *** Quits: ehlodex (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2119 [16:19:21] *** Joins: Madda (~Madda@replaced-ip )
2120 [16:19:21] *** Quits: bariscant (~bariscant@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2121 [16:20:04] *** Quits: daniel-s (~daniel-s@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2122 [16:20:11] *** Joins: Levure (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2123 [16:20:17] *** Joins: CarlosSutana (~CarlosSut@replaced-ip )
2124 [16:21:11] *** Quits: JohnML (~john1@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2125 [16:21:38] *** Joins: bariscant (~bariscant@replaced-ip )
2126 [16:22:27] *** Quits: andrzejv (~andzej@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2127 [16:23:16] *** Quits: yannick1974 (~yannick@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2128 [16:23:26] *** Joins: yannick1974 (~yannick@replaced-ip )
2129 [16:23:32] *** Quits: bmlzootown (~bmlzootow@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2130 [16:23:50] *** Quits: cateye (~cateye@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2131 [16:23:55] *** Joins: WhatisRT (~whatisrt@replaced-ip )
2132 [16:23:57] *** Joins: cateye (~cateye@replaced-ip )
2133 [16:24:07] *** Joins: intcat (~zshlyk@replaced-ip )
2134 [16:24:26] *** Joins: deznuts (uid92154@replaced-ip )
2135 [16:25:19] *** Joins: bmlzootown (~bmlzootow@replaced-ip )
2136 [16:25:33] *** Joins: HarveyPwca (~HarveyPwc@replaced-ip )
2137 [16:25:55] *** Quits: bariscant (~bariscant@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2138 [16:26:02] *** Joins: thunderrd (~thunderrd@replaced-ip )
2139 [16:26:27] *** Joins: regdude (~regdude@replaced-ip )
2140 [16:27:25] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2141 [16:27:26] <regdude> Hi! How can I configure bonding interface to use ARP checking instead of MII? Adding arp_target x.x.x.x to /etc/network/interfaces does not seem to work
2142 [16:27:44] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
2143 [16:27:45] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
2144 [16:27:45] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
2145 [16:27:49] *** Joins: bariscant (~bariscant@replaced-ip )
2146 [16:27:56] *** Quits: wgas (~wgas@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2147 [16:27:57] *** Joins: Strife1989 (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2148 [16:28:22] *** Quits: WhatisRT (~whatisrt@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2149 [16:28:48] *** Quits: mel00010 (~mel00010@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2150 [16:29:10] *** Joins: mephistolist (~ph33r@replaced-ip )
2151 [16:29:15] <epergny> Oh well, makes sense to me that I can actually copy huge files (like VMs) over the network an have the gigabit switch actually being the bottleneck (as long as huge file fits in cache/RAM on the destination computer) and get 50 MB/s sustained write speed (as tested by me with huge files) and 25 MB/s random write (as measured by fio).
2152 [16:29:31] <epergny> but whatever: gat to go now... FML. 1 GB/s reads, 50 to 25 MB/s write.
2153 [16:30:38] *** Quits: cateye (~cateye@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2154 [16:30:57] *** Quits: Strife89 (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2155 [16:31:19] *** Joins: zZzZzZ (~zZzZzZ@replaced-ip )
2156 [16:31:48] *** Quits: m1m0 (~SilverBe@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2157 [16:32:41] *** Joins: WhatisRT (~whatisrt@replaced-ip )
2158 [16:33:38] *** Quits: iulian_ (~iulian@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2159 [16:33:46] <regdude> nvm, miimon must be removed
2160 [16:34:24] *** Joins: cateye (~cateye@replaced-ip )
2161 [16:36:13] *** Quits: Ozzyboshi (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2162 [16:36:50] *** Joins: grut (~grut@replaced-ip )
2163 [16:37:06] *** Quits: bariscant (~bariscant@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2164 [16:37:22] *** Quits: WhatisRT (~whatisrt@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2165 [16:37:30] *** Quits: altin (~altin@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2166 [16:37:39] *** Quits: grut (~grut@replaced-ip ) (Quit: grut)
2167 [16:38:02] *** Joins: bariscant (~bariscant@replaced-ip )
2168 [16:38:11] *** Joins: wutduff (~androirc@replaced-ip )
2169 [16:38:32] <wutduff> Hi again... i'm downloading the cinnamon desktop.. file 110 of 1416
2170 [16:38:51] <slax0r> good for you?
2171 [16:38:51] <wutduff> But it is the 110th since half an hour
2172 [16:39:58] <wutduff> Is it a problem? The pc is still working.. i can move the mouse pointer and the network is still going
2173 [16:40:04] *** Joins: BlueByte_ (~walther@replaced-ip )
2174 [16:40:27] <wutduff> slax0r for me it's enough if it downloads it lol
2175 [16:40:38] *** Joins: Informant_ (~Informant@replaced-ip )
2176 [16:41:09] *** Quits: Brigo (~Brigo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2177 [16:41:14] *** Quits: Informant (~Informant@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2178 [16:41:25] *** Joins: Informant (~Informant@replaced-ip )
2179 [16:42:18] <wutduff> Should i wait for it?
2180 [16:42:18] *** Joins: Informant__ (~Informant@replaced-ip )
2181 [16:42:54] *** Quits: bariscant (~bariscant@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2182 [16:43:08] *** Joins: Murii_ (~vlad@replaced-ip )
2183 [16:44:09] <bb36e__> I really want a couple of KDE bugs to get fixed, but it looks like the fixes won't be backported...guess I'll wait till 2019 :/
2184 [16:44:42] *** Quits: Informant (~Informant@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2185 [16:45:05] *** Quits: Informant_ (~Informant@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2186 [16:45:48] <Tywin> bb36e__, come to the sid side
2187 [16:45:52] <epergny> depression is going to set: with my random r/w speed of 25 MB/s and a 300 Mbps symmetric fiber Internet connection, when I'm d/l ing from fast server my freakin M.2 Samsung 950 Pro SSD is somehow the bottleneck.
2188 [16:46:43] *** Joins: a_l_b (~a_l_b@replaced-ip )
2189 [16:48:05] *** Quits: Informant__ (~Informant@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2190 [16:48:15] *** Quits: pingfloyd (~pingfloyd@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
2191 [16:48:48] *** Quits: Merixer (~Merixer@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2192 [16:49:12] *** Joins: bariscant (~bariscant@replaced-ip )
2193 [16:50:50] *** Joins: jhutchins_wk (~jonathan@replaced-ip )
2194 [16:51:27] *** Quits: wutduff (~androirc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2195 [16:51:36] *** Quits: a_l_b (~a_l_b@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2196 [16:52:22] <bb36e__> epergny: haha, like getting a ferarri but only being able to drive in a parking lot
2197 [16:52:32] <jelly> epergny: are you sure the ssd is the bottleneck and not some single-threaded kernel thing in cpu?
2198 [16:52:33] *** Joins: a_l_b (~a_l_b@replaced-ip )
2199 [16:53:06] *** Joins: wutduff (~androirc@replaced-ip )
2200 [16:53:15] *** Quits: bariscant (~bariscant@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2201 [16:53:31] *** Joins: bariscant (~bariscant@replaced-ip )
2202 [16:54:22] *** Quits: shinnya (~shinnya@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2203 [16:54:42] *** Quits: geoid (~geoid@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Be back later ...)
2204 [16:54:52] *** Joins: Strife89 (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2205 [16:55:18] *** Joins: geoid (~geoid@replaced-ip )
2206 [16:56:01] *** Quits: Strife1989 (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2207 [16:56:09] *** Joins: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip )
2208 [16:57:06] *** Joins: jordila (~jordi@replaced-ip )
2209 [16:57:44] *** Joins: turfal (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
2210 [16:57:45] <epergny> jelly: I'll have to check that too but I don't see excessive cpu usage at all. I think I'll try with a totally clean system just to be sure.
2211 [16:58:04] <epergny> found the LUKS encryption type, it's one of the fastest in the benchmark. So it's probably not that either.
2212 [16:58:17] *** Joins: killwill (~androirc@replaced-ip )
2213 [16:58:25] *** Joins: fp7 (~fp7@replaced-ip )
2214 [16:58:41] *** Quits: wutduff (~androirc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2215 [16:59:09] <killwill> clear
2216 [16:59:12] <epergny> bb36e__: yes, I had that happen to me... Car without insurance, still needed to fire the engine once every x months, so I'd just drive a bit in an underground garage. Not good but better than not starting the engine at all for years.
2217 [16:59:15] <killwill> Whoops
2218 [16:59:39] *** Quits: geoid (~geoid@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2219 [16:59:39] *** Joins: oish (~charlie@replaced-ip )
2220 [17:00:40] <jordila> #debian ers ... anyone willing to share DKIM mail signing experiences for mailing ?
2221 [17:01:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1561
2222 [17:01:58] *** Joins: Merixer (~Merixer@replaced-ip )
2223 [17:02:46] <jordila> scenario : PHPList for Newsletters + POSTFIX mail server , i'm wondering ... do i really need 'DKIM' email signing , when using my own Mail Server rather than SMTP sending ?
2224 [17:02:53] <jordila> What am i missing ?
2225 [17:03:23] *** Quits: Haohmaru (~Haohmaru@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2226 [17:03:44] *** Quits: fp7 (~fp7@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2227 [17:03:47] *** Joins: crimson_king (~NEOalquim@replaced-ip )
2228 [17:03:54] *** Joins: fp7 (~fp7@replaced-ip )
2229 [17:04:21] *** Quits: maccampus (~maccampus@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Mutter: ##replaced-url
2230 [17:04:37] *** Quits: HarveyPwca (~HarveyPwc@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2231 [17:05:07] *** Quits: freddy_fcch (~freddy_fc@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2232 [17:05:50] *** Joins: rustbuckett (~rustbucke@replaced-ip )
2233 [17:06:40] *** Joins: CarlosSutana_ (~CarlosSut@replaced-ip )
2234 [17:06:50] *** Quits: zabow (~zabow@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2235 [17:07:17] *** Quits: cujotus (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2236 [17:07:34] *** Quits: CarlosSutana (~CarlosSut@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2237 [17:07:53] *** Joins: freddy_fcch (~freddy_fc@replaced-ip )
2238 [17:08:02] *** Joins: P1ersson (~P1ersson@replaced-ip )
2239 [17:08:15] *** Joins: maccampus (~maccampus@replaced-ip )
2240 [17:08:24] *** Joins: AquaL1te (~AquaL1te@replaced-ip )
2241 [17:08:46] *** Joins: j7k6_ (~j7k6@replaced-ip )
2242 [17:09:17] *** Quits: j7k6_ (~j7k6@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2243 [17:09:26] *** Quits: jhutchins_wk (~jonathan@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2244 [17:09:35] *** Quits: adoua (~adoua@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2245 [17:09:38] *** Quits: id4rk_ (~id4rk@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2246 [17:10:34] <AquaL1te> sup, i'm running debian 9 stretch. i noticed that `ss -wantus` doesn't list udp sockets, while the statistics output does mention a total of 6 sockets. i can reproduce it on 2 raspberry pi's. can someone reproduce it on a 'normal' machine? on fedora it does display udp sockets along with the rest what you would expect
2247 [17:10:34] *** Quits: LtL (~ltl@replaced-ip ) (Quit: LtL)
2248 [17:10:51] *** Joins: AndroUser2 (~androirc@replaced-ip )
2249 [17:10:51] *** Quits: satanist (~satanist@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2250 [17:11:52] *** Joins: gjt343 (~gjt@replaced-ip )
2251 [17:11:55] *** Joins: satanist (~satanist@replaced-ip )
2252 [17:12:49] *** Quits: Gaaab (~Gaaab@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2253 [17:12:57] *** Quits: _systemd_is_evil (~NOsystemd@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2254 [17:13:16] *** Joins: Ozzyboshi (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2255 [17:13:29] *** Quits: fred3 (~fred@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2256 [17:13:40] *** Quits: maccampus (~maccampus@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Mutter: ##replaced-url
2257 [17:14:16] *** Joins: deeb (~dee@replaced-ip )
2258 [17:14:36] *** Joins: maccampus (~maccampus@replaced-ip )
2259 [17:14:37] *** Joins: fred3 (~fred@replaced-ip )
2260 [17:14:42] *** Joins: _systemd_is_evil (~NOsystemd@replaced-ip )
2261 [17:14:49] *** Quits: killwill (~androirc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2262 [17:15:50] *** Quits: bariscant (~bariscant@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2263 [17:15:55] *** Quits: BlueByte_ (~walther@replaced-ip ) (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
2264 [17:16:28] *** Joins: bariscant (~bariscant@replaced-ip )
2265 [17:17:37] *** Joins: earthundead (~earthunde@replaced-ip )
2266 [17:17:58] *** Joins: JohnML (~john1@replaced-ip )
2267 [17:18:04] *** Joins: omawnakw (~omawnakw@replaced-ip )
2268 [17:18:29] *** Quits: mibo (~mibo@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
2269 [17:20:00] *** Quits: czart_ (~czart@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2270 [17:20:33] *** Quits: bariscant (~bariscant@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2271 [17:20:51] *** Quits: shinnok (~shinnok@replaced-ip ) (Quit: byebye)
2272 [17:20:54] *** Joins: Night-Shade (~textual@replaced-ip )
2273 [17:21:29] *** Quits: j7k6 (~j7k6@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2274 [17:25:11] *** Quits: Meerkat (~meerkat@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2275 [17:25:12] *** Quits: P1ersson (~P1ersson@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2276 [17:25:23] *** Joins: cxxc126 (~insan@replaced-ip )
2277 [17:25:27] *** Quits: _systemd_is_evil (~NOsystemd@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2278 [17:25:29] *** Parts: cxxc126 (~insan@replaced-ip ) ()
2279 [17:26:10] *** Quits: bb36e__ (~bb36e@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2280 [17:26:10] *** Joins: superflit (~superflit@replaced-ip )
2281 [17:26:42] *** Joins: _systemd_is_evil (~NOsystemd@replaced-ip )
2282 [17:26:56] *** Quits: gjt343 (~gjt@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2283 [17:28:44] *** Quits: electro33 (uid613@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
2284 [17:29:55] *** Quits: msimpson (~msimpson@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2285 [17:29:57] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2286 [17:31:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1552
2287 [17:31:19] *** Quits: apollojustice (apollo@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.7.x-nightly-20170923-448f020a - ##replaced-url
2288 [17:32:03] *** Joins: apollojustice (apollo@replaced-ip )
2289 [17:32:07] *** Joins: MACscr|lappy (~MACscr|la@replaced-ip )
2290 [17:32:49] *** Joins: Worldexe (~Worldexe@replaced-ip )
2291 [17:33:06] <jelly> epergny: when you have 8 cores, 12.5% cpu usage is a single thread completely saturated
2292 [17:33:13] *** Quits: NetTerminalGene (~NetTermin@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2293 [17:33:50] *** Quits: AndroUser2 (~androirc@replaced-ip##) (Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( ##replaced-url
2294 [17:33:51] <jelly> epergny: iostat -x 1 and vmstat 1 are your friends
2295 [17:34:56] *** Quits: JohnML (~john1@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2296 [17:35:20] *** Joins: gjt343 (~gjt@replaced-ip )
2297 [17:36:05] *** Joins: mkolenda (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
2298 [17:36:35] *** Quits: MACscr|lappy (~MACscr|la@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2299 [17:36:58] *** Joins: eh3 (~eh3@replaced-ip )
2300 [17:37:39] *** Parts: eh3 (~eh3@replaced-ip ) ()
2301 [17:37:53] *** Joins: philip2 (~philip@replaced-ip )
2302 [17:39:22] *** Quits: philip1 (~philip@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2303 [17:39:24] *** Quits: pifpafpouf (~pifpafpou@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2304 [17:39:34] <Tywin> Out of curiosity, are there people in here that compile their own kernels?
2305 [17:40:12] *** Quits: splinux (~damien@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2306 [17:40:27] *** Joins: sikun (~David@replaced-ip )
2307 [17:41:43] <Tywin> Because the toolset is freaking horrible and I'm wondering whether it's because it's rarely used and unmaintained or just because the maintainers are downright idiots X_X
2308 [17:41:52] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
2309 [17:42:30] <greycat> !kernel handbook
2310 [17:42:30] <dpkg> The Debian Linux Kernel Handbook replaced-url
2311 [17:42:36] *** Quits: chomwitt (~chomwitt@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2312 [17:42:58] <Tywin> greycat, I am following that and I'm getting an avalanche of errors
2313 [17:43:11] *** Quits: crimson_king (~NEOalquim@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2314 [17:43:28] *** Quits: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Hold on, brb.😎)
2315 [17:43:42] *** Quits: TacoGS (~tacogs@replaced-ip ) ()
2316 [17:43:49] *** Joins: MACscr|lappy (~MACscr|la@replaced-ip )
2317 [17:43:57] *** Joins: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip )
2318 [17:44:02] *** Joins: kot (~kot@replaced-ip )
2319 [17:44:22] *** dza2 is now known as dza
2320 [17:45:31] *** Joins: spacebison (~bison@replaced-ip )
2321 [17:46:04] *** Joins: nom-ent (~user@replaced-ip )
2322 [17:46:19] *** Quits: philip2 (~philip@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2323 [17:46:28] *** Joins: amcorreia (~amcorreia@replaced-ip )
2324 [17:46:40] <Tywin> Right now make-kpkg is hanging and splurging out an ambiguous "Failed to create a ./debian directory: at /usr/bin/make-kpkg line 970." error when terminating
2325 [17:46:54] *** Quits: turfal (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2326 [17:47:04] *** Joins: _0bitcount (~Big_Byte@replaced-ip )
2327 [17:47:23] *** Joins: JohnML (~john1@replaced-ip )
2328 [17:48:38] *** Joins: jhutchins_wk (~jonathan@replaced-ip )
2329 [17:49:02] *** Joins: baptist (~baptsk@replaced-ip )
2330 [17:50:20] *** Joins: ChmEarl (~chmearl@replaced-ip )
2331 [17:50:34] *** Joins: sphenxes (~sphenxes@replaced-ip )
2332 [17:50:45] *** Joins: nobodi (~nobodi@replaced-ip )
2333 [17:51:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1559
2334 [17:51:57] *** Quits: jordila (~jordi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2335 [17:52:26] *** Joins: karmavil (uid261628@replaced-ip )
2336 [17:52:34] *** Quits: MACscr|lappy (~MACscr|la@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2337 [17:53:28] *** Quits: blaztek (~blaztek@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
2338 [17:53:35] *** Quits: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2339 [17:54:25] *** Joins: MACscr|lappy (~MACscr|la@replaced-ip )
2340 [17:54:43] *** Joins: id4rk (~id4rk@replaced-ip )
2341 [17:55:18] *** Quits: Rokixz (~rokas@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2342 [17:55:46] *** Quits: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2343 [17:56:01] *** Joins: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip )
2344 [17:56:10] *** Quits: nobodi (~nobodi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2345 [17:56:45] *** Quits: Night-Shade (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2346 [17:57:06] *** Joins: nobodi (~nobodi@replaced-ip )
2347 [17:57:30] *** Joins: tarjo (~gjjfk@replaced-ip )
2348 [17:58:12] *** Joins: beograd (~floyy@replaced-ip )
2349 [17:58:13] *** Quits: Rogalian (~cools@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2350 [17:58:14] *** Joins: LtL (~ltl@replaced-ip )
2351 [17:58:26] *** Joins: coreilly (407c843b@replaced-ip )
2352 [17:58:44] <coreilly> Is debian having a dns issue?
2353 [17:58:46] *** Quits: beograd (~floyy@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2354 [18:00:00] *** Quits: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2355 [18:00:11] *** Quits: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2356 [18:00:16] *** Joins: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip )
2357 [18:00:20] *** Joins: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip )
2358 [18:00:57] *** Quits: BCMM (~BCMM@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2359 [18:01:55] *** Joins: hipp (~hipp@replaced-ip )
2360 [18:02:06] *** Joins: BCMM (~BCMM@replaced-ip )
2361 [18:02:12] *** Joins: SickzZ (~SickzZ@replaced-ip )
2362 [18:02:26] *** Quits: sphenxes (~sphenxes@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2363 [18:02:39] *** Joins: Yo[w] (~Yoann@replaced-ip )
2364 [18:02:40] <SlidingHorn> coreilly: Not likely...what's the issue you're having? Also, version of Debian you're running?
2365 [18:02:40] *** Joins: TacoGS (~tacogs@replaced-ip )
2366 [18:02:45] *** Parts: regdude (~regdude@replaced-ip ) ()
2367 [18:02:50] <coreilly> bind 9.2
2368 [18:02:53] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2369 [18:03:06] <coreilly> I was doing lookups and couldn't get ftp.us.debian.org
2370 [18:03:12] *** Quits: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2371 [18:03:26] *** Joins: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip )
2372 [18:03:45] <coreilly> coreilly@bunoc-idns0:~$ dig @localhost ftp.us.debian.org +short coreilly@bunoc-idns0:~$ coreilly@bunoc-idns0:~$ coreilly@bunoc-idns0:~$ dig @localhost replaced-url
2373 [18:03:52] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
2374 [18:03:56] <coreilly> Ah the formatting of that is shitty
2375 [18:04:12] <coreilly> but I can lookup replaced-url
2376 [18:04:25] *** Joins: aardworkk (~oardworkk@replaced-ip )
2377 [18:04:33] <greycat> I get three responses for ftp.us.debian.org
2378 [18:04:43] <jhutchins_wk> Me too.
2379 [18:05:04] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
2380 [18:05:05] <coreilly> If I do +trace it fails on sec1.rcode0.net
2381 [18:05:09] *** Quits: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2382 [18:05:18] <coreilly> which is the name server for debian.org
2383 [18:05:21] <rek> join #debian-offtopic
2384 [18:05:25] *** Quits: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2385 [18:05:36] <coreilly> 8.8.8.8 works but I think that might be cached.
2386 [18:05:41] *** Quits: tarjo (~gjjfk@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2387 [18:05:41] *** Joins: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip )
2388 [18:05:54] *** Quits: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2389 [18:06:01] <BCMM> coreilly: why are you using +short?
2390 [18:06:06] <rek> hi. i have 390.48 which cuda toolkit can i install without ruining everything? i'm running debian stretch
2391 [18:06:09] *** Joins: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip )
2392 [18:06:11] <coreilly> doing dig @8.8.8.8 ftp.us.debian.org +trace shows wackiness
2393 [18:06:13] *** Quits: imfearless (~imfearles@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2394 [18:06:21] *** Quits: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2395 [18:06:23] <coreilly> I'm doing +short for the sake of brevity
2396 [18:06:27] *** Joins: Nnavd (~Nnavd@replaced-ip )
2397 [18:06:29] *** Joins: jordila (~jordi@replaced-ip )
2398 [18:06:29] <BCMM> coreilly: consider pastebinning the entire output
2399 [18:06:39] <BCMM> instead of pasting short output in the channel
2400 [18:06:44] *** Quits: Strife89 (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2401 [18:07:29] <greycat> I get the same three responses from dig +short @sec1.rcode0.net ftp.us.debian.org
2402 [18:08:13] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2403 [18:08:14] *** Quits: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2404 [18:08:25] *** Joins: Strife89 (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2405 [18:08:31] *** Joins: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip )
2406 [18:08:33] <coreilly> here's the pastebin - replaced-url
2407 [18:08:37] *** Quits: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2408 [18:08:38] *** Joins: imfearless (~imfearles@replaced-ip )
2409 [18:08:43] <coreilly> try dig ftp.us.debian.org +trace
2410 [18:08:45] *** Joins: navlys (~smuxi@replaced-ip )
2411 [18:08:53] *** Joins: krytarik (~krytarik@replaced-ip )
2412 [18:08:55] *** Joins: philip2 (~philip@replaced-ip )
2413 [18:09:27] *** Joins: pifpafpouf (~pifpafpou@replaced-ip )
2414 [18:09:42] *** Joins: clemens3_ (~clemens@replaced-ip )
2415 [18:09:47] <rek> can i get cuda 9.1 sources somewhere?
2416 [18:09:52] *** Joins: Gostislav2 (~guskr@replaced-ip )
2417 [18:10:17] *** Quits: clemens3 (~clemens@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2418 [18:11:05] *** Joins: Rogalian (~cools@replaced-ip )
2419 [18:12:05] *** Quits: dracc (~dracc@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2420 [18:12:32] <coreilly> just for the sake of completeness here's that same lookup but against Google's DNS - replaced-url
2421 [18:12:47] *** Quits: BCMM (~BCMM@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2422 [18:12:50] <coreilly> it also dies on the name servers for debian.org
2423 [18:13:02] *** Parts: eMaks (~eMaks@replaced-ip ) ()
2424 [18:13:09] *** Joins: clemens3 (~clemens@replaced-ip )
2425 [18:13:30] *** Joins: areyouloco (~areyouloc@replaced-ip )
2426 [18:13:55] *** Joins: BCMM (~BCMM@replaced-ip )
2427 [18:14:11] *** Joins: kbelyea (~kbelyea@replaced-ip )
2428 [18:14:27] *** Quits: clemens3_ (~clemens@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2429 [18:14:50] *** Quits: Vizva (~Vizva@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2430 [18:14:54] *** Quits: Yo[w] (~Yoann@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2431 [18:14:58] *** Quits: Ozzyboshi (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2432 [18:15:08] *** Quits: celyr (~celyr@replaced-ip ) (Quit: bye)
2433 [18:16:07] *** Parts: kbelyea (~kbelyea@replaced-ip ) ()
2434 [18:16:38] *** Joins: OS-34800 (~OS-34800@replaced-ip )
2435 [18:17:12] *** Joins: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip )
2436 [18:18:05] *** Quits: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2437 [18:18:21] *** Joins: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip )
2438 [18:18:37] *** Quits: coreilly (407c843b@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Page closed)
2439 [18:19:35] *** Quits: bzk89 (~OS-34800@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2440 [18:20:36] *** Quits: id4rk (~id4rk@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)
2441 [18:21:19] *** Joins: dreamon_ (~dreamon@replaced-ip )
2442 [18:21:45] *** Quits: OS-34800 (~OS-34800@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2443 [18:22:02] *** Joins: crn (~crn@replaced-ip )
2444 [18:22:57] *** Quits: Al_lA (~derwhalfi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2445 [18:23:21] *** Joins: OS-34800 (~OS-34800@replaced-ip )
2446 [18:23:27] *** Joins: Al_lA (~derwhalfi@replaced-ip )
2447 [18:23:36] *** Quits: Al_lA (~derwhalfi@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
2448 [18:24:13] *** Joins: Al_lA (~derwhalfi@replaced-ip )
2449 [18:24:20] *** Quits: Al_lA (~derwhalfi@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
2450 [18:24:27] *** Parts: xormor (~xormor@replaced-ip ) ("Leaving")
2451 [18:24:43] *** Quits: Madda (~Madda@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Textual IRC Client: ##replaced-url
2452 [18:24:56] *** Joins: Al_lA (~derwhalfi@replaced-ip )
2453 [18:25:31] <jhutchins_wk> It completes for me.
2454 [18:26:08] *** Quits: earthundead (~earthunde@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2455 [18:26:57] *** Quits: voidSurf_ (~voidSurfr@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2456 [18:27:01] *** Joins: voidSurfr (~voidSurfr@replaced-ip )
2457 [18:27:09] *** Quits: nobodi (~nobodi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2458 [18:29:18] *** Joins: wgas (~wgas@replaced-ip )
2459 [18:29:34] *** Joins: nobodi (~nobodi@replaced-ip )
2460 [18:29:51] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
2461 [18:29:56] *** Joins: theseb (~user@replaced-ip )
2462 [18:30:02] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2463 [18:30:39] *** Quits: aardworkk (~oardworkk@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2464 [18:30:56] *** Quits: fred3 (~fred@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2465 [18:31:07] <jelly> sec1.rcode0.net is not "the" NS for debian.org, there are others, and dig from here gets results ;; Received 328 bytes from 176.97.158.100#53(sec2.rcode0.net) in 22 ms
2466 [18:31:38] *** Joins: fred3 (~fred@replaced-ip )
2467 [18:31:46] <rek> is there cuda toolkit 9 for debian?
2468 [18:32:35] <jelly> ,v nvidia-cuda-toolkit
2469 [18:32:36] <judd> Package: nvidia-cuda-toolkit on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 4.2.9-2; wheezy-backports/non-free: 5.5.22-6~bpo70+2; jessie/non-free: 6.0.37-5; jessie-backports/non-free: 7.5.18-4~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 8.0.44-4; buster/non-free: 9.1.85-4+b1; sid/non-free: 9.1.85-4+b1
2470 [18:32:37] *** Quits: epony (~nym@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2471 [18:32:43] *** Quits: Adbray (~Adbray@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2472 [18:32:58] <jelly> rek: only in testing and unstable branches apparently
2473 [18:33:15] *** Joins: czesmir_ (~stefan@replaced-ip )
2474 [18:33:26] *** Quits: booyah (~bb@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2475 [18:33:32] <jelly> ,checkbackport nvidia-cuda-toolkit
2476 [18:33:33] <judd> Backporting package nvidia-cuda-toolkit in sid→stretch/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using stretch, archignore, stretch-backports.
2477 [18:33:45] *** Joins: Adbray (~Adbray@replaced-ip )
2478 [18:33:49] <jelly> possibly worth trying to build
2479 [18:33:58] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2480 [18:34:09] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
2481 [18:34:20] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2482 [18:34:26] *** Joins: booyah (~bb@replaced-ip )
2483 [18:34:46] <jelly> rek: if you want to try building the binary .deb yourself, the bot has a recipe so ask it: /msg dpkg ssb
2484 [18:35:11] *** Quits: crn (~crn@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2485 [18:35:53] <jelly> ,checkbackport nvidia-cuda-dev
2486 [18:35:54] <judd> Backporting package nvidia-cuda-dev in sid→stretch/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using stretch, archignore, stretch-backports.
2487 [18:36:11] <rek> jelly where are the sources??
2488 [18:36:22] *** Quits: CarlosSutana_ (~CarlosSut@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2489 [18:36:47] <rek> but i see 8 in stretch i need 9.1 or something i guess?
2490 [18:36:52] *** Quits: czesmir (~stefan@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2491 [18:37:25] <jelly> rek: the sources are in sid, not in stretch.
2492 [18:37:34] *** Quits: SickzZ (~SickzZ@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2493 [18:37:51] <rek> of which cuda toolkit version?
2494 [18:38:06] <jelly> see what judd said above, sid/non-free: 9.1.85-4+b1
2495 [18:38:18] *** Quits: JohnML (~john1@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2496 [18:39:08] <rek> are there cuda toolkit sources from nvidia too? uhm so do i have to add a line on my apt?
2497 [18:39:09] *** Quits: Rogalian (~cools@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2498 [18:39:11] <jelly> so with that in mind, one possible way forward is to try building the toolkit itself, for stretch
2499 [18:39:17] <rek> how does it works
2500 [18:39:39] *** Joins: somnambler (~michael@replaced-ip )
2501 [18:39:52] <jelly> ask the dpkg bot, read the recipe for "backporting"
2502 [18:40:00] *** Quits: b02c (~b02c@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ...)
2503 [18:40:12] *** Quits: Adbray (~Adbray@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2504 [18:40:16] <jelly> and try following those instructions
2505 [18:40:27] <jelly> rek: /msg dpkg ssb
2506 [18:40:31] *** Quits: zifxify (~zifxify@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - ##replaced-url
2507 [18:40:50] *** Quits: theseb (~user@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2508 [18:41:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1549
2509 [18:41:12] <rek> cuda 9.1 in sid? could be good... but what would say synaptic when installing it and seeing i have nvidia-driver installed with the .run.... maybe it's not compatible lilke now i'm trying to install cuda 8 i have in stretch repositories and it encourages me to run the uninstall from nvidia first while attempting to install the toolkit
2510 [18:41:14] *** Joins: Adbray (~Adbray@replaced-ip )
2511 [18:41:14] *** Joins: b02c (~b02c@replaced-ip )
2512 [18:42:04] <jelly> rek: you do not INSTALL it from sid. You tke sources from sid, and BUILD packages on your stretch installation. If that works
2513 [18:42:14] *** Joins: nodiscc (~automatic@replaced-ip )
2514 [18:42:21] <jelly> you get to install the .deb packages you successfully built
2515 [18:42:31] *** Quits: imfearless (~imfearles@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2516 [18:42:46] <nodiscc> hi, I found something strange about the fail2ban systemd service
2517 [18:42:51] *** Joins: Rogalian (~cools@replaced-ip )
2518 [18:42:54] <jelly> rek: if you used nvidia's own -run installer shit will be broken anyway
2519 [18:43:11] <jelly> so uninstall that first
2520 [18:43:38] *** Quits: thiras (~thiras@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2521 [18:44:04] *** Quits: oish (~charlie@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2522 [18:44:10] *** Joins: happyfr0gg (~happyfr0g@replaced-ip )
2523 [18:44:12] *** Joins: fax (~fax@replaced-ip )
2524 [18:44:23] *** Joins: UnsaneVirusez (~InsaneVir@replaced-ip )
2525 [18:44:23] <nodiscc> I had set 'bantime = 604800 # 7days' in one of my fail2ban jails, fail2Ban config does not accept inline comments, so fail2ban-client reload returned an error:
2526 [18:44:29] <nodiscc> WARNING Wrong value for 'bantime' in 'sshd'. Using default one: 'None'
2527 [18:45:23] <happyfr0gg> If I install ubuntu package repos in debian, will they install and run without errors?
2528 [18:45:27] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
2529 [18:45:33] <nodiscc> if I run 'systemctl status fail2ban.service' I see that ExecReload returns an error (code=exited, status=255)
2530 [18:45:40] <greycat> !don't break debian
2531 [18:45:40] <dpkg> rumour has it, dont break debian is replaced-url
2532 [18:45:48] <greycat> happyfr0gg: replaced-url
2533 [18:46:09] *** Quits: Sir_Designer__ (Elite17539@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2534 [18:46:11] <Azrael_-> using backports = breaking?
2535 [18:46:16] <nodiscc> but yet the service itself is marked as 'Active: active (running)', and it returns exit code 0
2536 [18:46:19] <jelly> Azrael_-: no
2537 [18:46:49] <nodiscc> shouldn't 'systemctl --status fail2ban.service' return a non-zero exit code?
2538 [18:46:49] <greycat> Using the official backports is the second safest thing you can do, after using only stable.
2539 [18:47:02] <jelly> happyfr0gg: if you need to run ubuntu packages, use ubuntu
2540 [18:47:13] <nodiscc> It made me think that my config was correct for a while because I only checked the service status
2541 [18:47:26] *** Quits: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip##) (Quit: 15 minutes with you / oh, I wouldn't say no... I wear black on the outside because black is how I feel on the inside... Uso negro por fuera porque negro me siento por dentro... ##replaced-url
2542 [18:47:27] <Azrael_-> k
2543 [18:47:31] <rek> great greycat is here the guy from yesterday.... i succede it bootstraping gcc 5
2544 [18:47:36] *** Joins: JohnML (~john1@replaced-ip )
2545 [18:47:49] *** Joins: thescientist (~the.scien@87.196.53.214)
2546 [18:48:25] <happyfr0gg> I figured since ubuntu is based from debian the repo packages could be compatible?
2547 [18:48:33] <petn-randall> !based on
2548 [18:48:33] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare replaced-url
2549 [18:48:42] <petn-randall> happyfr0gg: There not, not even close. ^^^
2550 [18:48:46] <petn-randall> *They're
2551 [18:48:53] <rek> greycat i just run a ln -s /usr/local/gcc-5/bin/gcc /usr/bin/gcc don't know if that is enough....though
2552 [18:48:58] *** Joins: loader (~loader@replaced-ip )
2553 [18:49:22] <greycat> Try it and see.
2554 [18:49:25] <jelly> rek: don't do that. export CC=/path/to/your/gcc-5 instead
2555 [18:49:32] *** Joins: imfearless (~imfearles@replaced-ip )
2556 [18:49:35] *** Quits: gjt343 (~gjt@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2557 [18:49:37] <greycat> Well, depends on what he's doing.
2558 [18:49:48] <greycat> I'll defer to jelly on anything nvidia related.
2559 [18:50:03] *** Joins: mibo (~mibo@replaced-ip )
2560 [18:50:06] <nodiscc> if I run 'systemctl status fail2ban.service' I see that 'ExecReload=/usr/bin/fail2ban-client reload' returns an error (code=exited, status=255)
2561 [18:50:15] <nodiscc> sorry bad paste
2562 [18:50:19] <jelly> depending onwhat he's doing, consequences of changing system gcc symlink will be seen soon or later
2563 [18:50:31] <jelly> (it's not about nvidia)
2564 [18:50:50] *** Joins: sidco (~sidco@replaced-ip )
2565 [18:50:53] *** Parts: sidco (~sidco@replaced-ip ) ()
2566 [18:51:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1556
2567 [18:51:03] *** Quits: OS-34800 (~OS-34800@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2568 [18:51:13] <jelly> nothing wrong with putting it in /usr/local/bin which is ALSO in default PATH. Why break /usr prefix
2569 [18:51:21] *** Quits: Haudegen (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2570 [18:51:23] <rek> can i use gcc5 only for building once?
2571 [18:51:49] <thescientist> Hi. Anyone has experience with google earth pro? I'm having some troubles with it. Thanks.
2572 [18:51:52] <jelly> rek: can you set CC once and unset it later or just close that shell?
2573 [18:52:12] <jelly> "probably"
2574 [18:53:30] *** Quits: MACscr|lappy (~MACscr|la@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2575 [18:53:54] *** Joins: Jaami__ (~jaami@replaced-ip )
2576 [18:54:05] <nodiscc> thescientist: no but it interests me. what are you using it for and what kind of problem do you have?
2577 [18:54:06] <rek> local/gcc-5/bin/gcc so running ls- ld doesn't give me the same info it gave me with gcc-6 which is in tha path i guess... instead of telling me --> gcc-6 or gcc it tells me the entire path to gcc is this normal? sould i do something i did all this mess to build some stuff i cannot even build now because i need cuda 9.1 or something if i want to keep my latest 390 driver which i installed from nvidia .run unfortunately....
2578 [18:54:24] <jelly> rek: but sure, you can overwrite /usr/bin/gcc, do your thing, and put it back later, it's just a bad practice, prone to errors
2579 [18:54:36] *** doubletwist- is now known as doubletwist
2580 [18:54:46] *** Quits: b02c (~b02c@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ...)
2581 [18:54:56] <rek> not probably we're sure i bootstrapped that stuff for the whole afternoon and morning
2582 [18:55:16] <rek> jelly, what's a better practice?
2583 [18:55:27] *** Quits: SlidingHorn (~albrecht@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
2584 [18:55:28] *** Joins: b02c (~b02c@replaced-ip )
2585 [18:55:40] *** Joins: NetTerminalGene (~NetTermin@replaced-ip )
2586 [18:55:45] <jelly> to change things in /usr/bin only via packaging system
2587 [18:56:04] <rek> is this link enough even if gcc5 is not in the path i mean if i press tab i don't see it instead i see gcc6
2588 [18:56:21] *** Joins: hypn0 (~h@replaced-ip )
2589 [18:56:24] <jelly> rek: your command is called just "gcc" not "gcc5"
2590 [18:56:32] <rek> true
2591 [18:56:38] *** Joins: thiras (~thiras@replaced-ip )
2592 [18:56:39] *** Joins: SlidingHorn (~albrecht@replaced-ip )
2593 [18:56:53] <jelly> rek: so what does "/usr/local/gcc-5/bin/gcc --version" say?
2594 [18:57:14] *** Joins: aardworkk (~oardworkk@replaced-ip )
2595 [18:57:22] <jelly> is it 5 or 6 or what
2596 [18:57:29] <jelly> if it's 5, use it
2597 [18:57:48] *** Quits: aardworkk (~oardworkk@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2598 [18:57:54] <thescientist> nodiscc I am using it to insert coordinates of collected samples. I usually use the mac version but i am interested in using the "linux" version since this computer is much more powerful than the laptop. my problem is that i install it but when open the software doesn't display properly
2599 [18:58:06] <rek> gcc version 5.5.0 (GCC)
2600 [18:58:45] <rek> but when i'll compile my stuff will i have to say something about where is gcc? no because i put a symlink and i should be ok
2601 [18:58:56] *** Quits: dogui (~dogui@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2602 [18:59:22] *** Quits: SlidingHorn (~albrecht@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2603 [18:59:41] *** Joins: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip )
2604 [18:59:42] <rek> why sid have a more advanced version of cuda
2605 [18:59:45] *** Joins: Sir_Designer__ (Elite17539@replaced-ip )
2606 [18:59:50] *** Joins: clay (~clay@replaced-ip )
2607 [19:00:02] *** Quits: clay (~clay@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2608 [19:00:09] *** Sir_Designer__ is now known as Guest76582
2609 [19:00:31] <jelly> because it was released in the time between stretch freeze and now.
2610 [19:00:37] <jelly> !freeze
2611 [19:00:37] <dpkg> The 'freeze' is when large changes to testing version of Debian are stopped for few months. During this period, no new package uploads are made except to fix critical bugs or to provide documentation updates. During the freeze, bugs are squashed to 'stabilize' the release to make the new 'stable'. Stretch started to freeze in Nov 2016 and entered full freeze on 5 Feb 2017. Also ask me about <slushy>, <stretch freeze>.
2612 [19:00:53] *** Quits: BanHammor (~srsly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2613 [19:01:05] *** Joins: BanHammor (~srsly@replaced-ip )
2614 [19:01:33] *** Quits: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2615 [19:02:09] *** Quits: nobodi (~nobodi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2616 [19:02:24] *** Parts: jordila (~jordi@replaced-ip ) ()
2617 [19:02:56] *** Joins: nobodi (~nobodi@replaced-ip )
2618 [19:03:09] <thescientist> nodiscc: I am using it to insert coordinates of collected samples. I usually use the mac version but i am interested in using the "linux" version since this computer is much more powerful than the laptop. my problem is that i install it but when open the software doesn't display properly.
2619 [19:04:22] <jelly> thescientist: which debian release are you using, and which gpu card is inside?
2620 [19:04:25] *** Quits: omawnakw (~omawnakw@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2621 [19:04:28] *** Joins: Hydroxide (~jimmy@replaced-ip )
2622 [19:04:43] <nodiscc> thescientist: is it this one? replaced-url
2623 [19:06:14] <thescientist> jelly: Debian GNU/Linux testing (buster) x86_64 (from crunchbangplusplus) and i am using the integrated graphics of my cpu, Intel HD Graphics
2624 [19:06:26] <thescientist> nodiscc: yes, that one precisely
2625 [19:06:38] *** Joins: Mike__ (~mike@replaced-ip )
2626 [19:07:00] *** Quits: Mike__ (~mike@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2627 [19:07:10] <nodiscc> thescientist: does it thrown any errors/warnings when run from a terminal/console?
2628 [19:07:29] *** Joins: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip )
2629 [19:07:57] *** Quits: Evol (~no@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2630 [19:08:09] *** Quits: Pjusur (~Pjusur@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2631 [19:08:29] *** Joins: omawnakw (~omawnakw@replaced-ip )
2632 [19:09:16] *** Joins: vbutnaru (~vbutnaru@replaced-ip )
2633 [19:09:39] <thescientist> nodiscc: no, none
2634 [19:10:10] <nodiscc> (else have you considered using an openstreetmap editor to do the job? not my business and maybe you really require GE. if you only want to export KML/KMZ then one of these should be fine replaced-url
2635 [19:10:21] *** Quits: erikm (~erikm@replaced-ip ) (Disconnected by services)
2636 [19:10:33] *** Joins: Guest65664 (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2637 [19:10:41] *** Quits: maccampus (~maccampus@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Mutter: ##replaced-url
2638 [19:10:48] *** Joins: erikm_ (~erikm@replaced-ip )
2639 [19:11:25] <nodiscc> (saying because it could be hard to find support for closed source proprietary software here. I'd ask on GE support channels if there are any)
2640 [19:11:52] *** Quits: vbutnaru (~vbutnaru@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2641 [19:12:05] *** Quits: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2642 [19:12:57] *** Quits: omawnakw (~omawnakw@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2643 [19:13:12] *** Joins: Pjusur (~Pjusur@replaced-ip )
2644 [19:13:26] *** Joins: vbutnaru (~vbutnaru@replaced-ip )
2645 [19:13:37] <rek> using stretch, archignore, stretch-backports. i have to add a line in apt?
2646 [19:13:38] *** Joins: jordila (~jordi@replaced-ip )
2647 [19:14:09] *** Quits: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2648 [19:14:20] *** Quits: loader (~loader@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2649 [19:14:38] <thescientist> nodiscc: this is more a question of convenience, for presentations, "quick jobs" and checks it is simpler software to use. for serious stuff I use qgis, the proper tool for this king of thing
2650 [19:15:56] *** Joins: dayten (~gnoid@replaced-ip )
2651 [19:15:57] <thescientist> nodisc: but I understand you suggestion and the position I am in. Also I have yet to install QGIS and see how it performs on this machine/OS.
2652 [19:15:58] *** Quits: erdave (~erdave@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2653 [19:15:58] *** Quits: pifpafpouf (~pifpafpou@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2654 [19:16:04] <rek> ,checkbackport nvidia-driver
2655 [19:16:06] <judd> Backporting package nvidia-driver in sid→stretch/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using stretch, stretch-backports.
2656 [19:16:15] *** Quits: baptist (~baptsk@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2657 [19:16:19] <rek> version judd?
2658 [19:16:31] <greycat> It said sid -> stretch.
2659 [19:16:54] <rek> i have version 390
2660 [19:17:02] *** Quits: daze (~daze@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2661 [19:17:03] <nodiscc> I understand yeah qgis is more than fine, I just checked the google-eart-pro package and it depends on:
2662 [19:17:03] <nodiscc> libasound2, libc6, libcups2, libdbus-1-3, libfontconfig1, libfreetype6, libgcc1, libglib2.0-0, libglu1-mesa, libgstreamer1.0-0, libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0, libproxy1 | libproxy1v5, libsm6, libstdc++6, libx11-6, libx11-xcb1, libxcb1, libxext6, libxml2, libxrender1, libxtst6
2663 [19:17:06] *** Joins: loader (~loader@replaced-ip )
2664 [19:18:03] *** Joins: oo_miguel (~miguel@replaced-ip )
2665 [19:18:07] *** Joins: daze (~daze@replaced-ip )
2666 [19:18:17] <nodiscc> but they don't specify versions and/or if this package is built debian 8, 9, ? so that may be a missing dependency?
2667 [19:18:17] *** Quits: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2668 [19:18:17] *** Quits: LtL (~ltl@replaced-ip ) (Quit: LtL)
2669 [19:18:48] <rek> 390.48 cool but then i have to backport also this
2670 [19:19:06] <kot> just curious, has anyone heard of any gotchas using the 4.16 kernel in stretch?
2671 [19:19:16] *** Joins: gjt343 (~gjt@replaced-ip )
2672 [19:19:28] *** Quits: vbutnaru (~vbutnaru@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2673 [19:19:28] <greycat> A few people on debian-user said they had issues that were fixed by reverting to a 4.15.x.
2674 [19:19:30] <nodiscc> anyway I know very little about gis, I use to add very basic placemarks in marble (replaced-url
2675 [19:20:20] <kot> hm, interesting. thanks greycat.
2676 [19:20:56] *** argus is now known as argusbr
2677 [19:20:56] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
2678 [19:20:56] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
2679 [19:21:45] *** Joins: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip )
2680 [19:21:58] <thescientist> nodiscc: I am very new to this, so I have to go slowly. I always try to check when installing if any error message appears, if many dependencies are necessary, etc. I will check those dependencies with the terminal or synaptic and see if any need to be reinstalled or are missing somehow.
2681 [19:22:05] <rek> i'll add deb replaced-url
2682 [19:22:39] *** Joins: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
2683 [19:22:42] *** Joins: __marco (~marco@replaced-ip )
2684 [19:23:54] <thescientist> nodiscc:This was more of a convenience "problem". For this job, which is supposed to be quick I can still rely on the mac version, and since it is a laptop it is always ready. I will investigate further and see what I can find, maybe it will be useful to more people in the future.
2685 [19:24:49] *** Quits: HoSy (~HS_@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2686 [19:25:06] <nodiscc> thescientist: I am installing it on a debian 9 stable box to see if it works
2687 [19:25:10] *** Joins: HoSy (~HS_@replaced-ip )
2688 [19:25:56] *** Joins: vbutnaru (~vbutnaru@replaced-ip )
2689 [19:26:39] *** Quits: fax (~fax@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2690 [19:26:51] <rek> 'm not sure which lines to add guys
2691 [19:27:52] <thescientist> nodiscc: Thank you, you are being very helpful.
2692 [19:28:38] *** Joins: beastwick (64234892@replaced-ip )
2693 [19:28:52] *** Quits: _ADN_ (~username@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2694 [19:28:53] <beastwick> is it possible to install kfreebsd on an existing debian install?
2695 [19:28:53] *** Joins: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip )
2696 [19:28:54] <nodiscc> thescientist: it works ok for me replaced-url
2697 [19:29:21] *** Quits: ehlodex_ (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2698 [19:30:05] *** Joins: ehlodex (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2699 [19:30:06] *** Joins: maccampus (~maccampus@replaced-ip )
2700 [19:30:22] <thescientist> nodiscc: mine is like this replaced-url
2701 [19:30:22] *** Quits: maccampus (~maccampus@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2702 [19:30:24] *** Joins: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip )
2703 [19:30:50] <rek> ,checkbackports nvidia-cuda-toolkit
2704 [19:31:46] *** Quits: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2705 [19:31:54] <thescientist> nodiscc: so, this means something went "wrong" from debian stable to unstable that i am using
2706 [19:32:25] <rek> no toolkit judd?
2707 [19:32:47] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
2708 [19:32:57] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2709 [19:33:06] *** Quits: gjt343 (~gjt@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2710 [19:33:06] *** Joins: BlueByte_ (~walther@replaced-ip )
2711 [19:35:55] *** Joins: WhatisRT (~whatisrt@replaced-ip )
2712 [19:36:01] <nodiscc> thescientist: their package is probably for debian stable yeah. no way to be really sure.
2713 [19:36:18] *** Joins: dogui (~dogui@replaced-ip )
2714 [19:36:32] *** Joins: SlidingHorn (~albrecht@replaced-ip )
2715 [19:36:56] *** Quits: somnambler (~michael@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - ##replaced-url
2716 [19:37:13] *** Quits: vivid (~ViViD@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2717 [19:37:47] *** Joins: depesz (~depesz@replaced-ip )
2718 [19:38:10] *** Joins: somnambler (~michael@replaced-ip )
2719 [19:38:23] <depesz> hi. i have a problem on intel nuc (small barebone computer) that after booting it stops displaying anything. x doesn't start, and i see boot messages up to some point, and then the screen goes dark
2720 [19:38:25] *** Guest65664 is now known as Haudegen
2721 [19:38:29] *** Joins: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip )
2722 [19:38:40] <depesz> i assume/guess that something sets some "wrong" graphics mode
2723 [19:38:47] <depesz> but how can I check what, and disable it?
2724 [19:38:50] <nodiscc> depesz: does it boot in recovery mode?
2725 [19:38:54] <depesz> i have access to this box via ssh
2726 [19:38:57] <nodiscc> (from the grub menu)
2727 [19:39:04] <depesz> moment. let me try.
2728 [19:39:13] *** Quits: jerdef82 (~jerdef@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2729 [19:39:37] <depesz> same thing happens
2730 [19:39:43] *** Joins: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip )
2731 [19:39:43] <depesz> it boots happily, and then stops displaying anything.
2732 [19:39:57] <depesz> i can shoot a video that shows the effect, but I'm not sure how helpful it would be.
2733 [19:40:12] <SlidingHorn> depesz: does it typically have a graphical login or tty?
2734 [19:40:15] <depesz> in recovery mode ssh is down, so now I can't connect there.
2735 [19:40:17] *** Joins: sweatsuit_ (~sweatsuit@replaced-ip )
2736 [19:40:20] *** Quits: WhatisRT (~whatisrt@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2737 [19:40:30] <depesz> SlidingHorn: it doesn't have either because it doesn't display anything.
2738 [19:40:35] *** Quits: sweatsuit (~sweatsuit@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2739 [19:40:35] *** sweatsuit_ is now known as sweatsuit
2740 [19:40:41] <depesz> i started with purely text console in debian stable.
2741 [19:40:50] <depesz> any kind of insallation of x makes it stop displaying anything.
2742 [19:40:55] <depesz> even when X hasn't even started.
2743 [19:40:57] <nodiscc> ok I'd try to set nomodeset in boot options
2744 [19:41:02] <depesz> i stopped all x related things, and display is still gone.
2745 [19:41:37] <nodiscc> in /etc/default/grub at GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
2746 [19:41:51] <depesz> well, i edited grub command line.
2747 [19:41:51] <nodiscc> then 'update-grub' and reboot
2748 [19:41:55] <nodiscc> k
2749 [19:42:00] <depesz> ok. with nomodeset it boots to working text mode.
2750 [19:42:04] <depesz> but how can I now start X?
2751 [19:42:15] <depesz> my endgame is to have working X environment.
2752 [19:42:16] *** Quits: vbutnaru (~vbutnaru@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2753 [19:42:21] <greycat> Try 'startx' and see what happens.
2754 [19:42:26] <depesz> on it.
2755 [19:42:31] <nodiscc> depesz: either that or install a DM like lightdm
2756 [19:43:02] <greycat> I would hold off on installing the DM until startx works.
2757 [19:43:04] <depesz> nothing. startx + enter - nothing has changed. i still see terminal with the command typed in, no messages, nohing has changed
2758 [19:43:17] *** Quits: xet7 (~xet7@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2759 [19:43:20] <depesz> i think i read somewhere that nomodeset means that x won't start.
2760 [19:43:27] *** Joins: zako2 (~zako3@replaced-ip )
2761 [19:43:36] <nodiscc> ps aux | grep Xorg
2762 [19:43:38] *** Joins: nuuuciano (~luuuciano@replaced-ip )
2763 [19:43:43] <greycat> nomodeset turns off Kernel Mode Setting, which is one of the ways X can operate
2764 [19:43:44] *** Quits: Rogalian (~cools@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2765 [19:43:45] *** Quits: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2766 [19:43:45] <depesz> root 780 1.0 0.0 0 0 tty1 Z 19:43 0:00 [Xorg] <defunct>
2767 [19:43:48] <depesz> ^^ nodiscc
2768 [19:44:46] <depesz> replaced-url
2769 [19:44:50] <depesz> this is xorg.0.log
2770 [19:45:16] <depesz> wow. after some (long time) there is output in the console - basically - "no screens found"
2771 [19:45:22] <depesz> can provide photo if it would help.
2772 [19:45:38] <jhutchins_wk> depesz: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
2773 [19:45:45] <depesz> jhutchins_wk: yes?
2774 [19:45:52] <jhutchins_wk> depesz: Very noisy, but it will tell you what's happening.
2775 [19:46:02] <greycat> or ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log depending
2776 [19:46:07] *** Quits: nuuuciano (~luuuciano@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2777 [19:46:08] <nodiscc> depesz: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-all
2778 [19:46:10] <depesz> but i just showed you?
2779 [19:46:16] *** Joins: gjt343 (~gjt@replaced-ip )
2780 [19:46:17] *** Quits: rek (~rek@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2781 [19:46:36] *** Joins: nuuuciano (~luuuciano@replaced-ip )
2782 [19:46:48] <depesz> nodiscc: replaced-url
2783 [19:47:08] <nodiscc> depesz: apt install xerver-xorg-video-all
2784 [19:47:13] <depesz> jhutchins_wk: / greycat : i pasted the whole file 3 minutes ago: 194446 depesz | replaced-url
2785 [19:47:22] <nodiscc> reboot
2786 [19:47:22] *** Joins: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip )
2787 [19:47:51] <greycat> urrent Operating System: Linux bednuc 4.16.0-1-amd64
2788 [19:48:11] *** Quits: dethos (~dethos@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2789 [19:48:32] <depesz> nodiscc: installed. did startx. i think it helped. i got kde screen. checking if it does have libva support
2790 [19:48:38] *** Joins: kriger (~norge@replaced-ip )
2791 [19:48:38] *** Quits: kriger (~norge@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
2792 [19:48:38] *** Joins: kriger (~norge@replaced-ip )
2793 [19:48:51] *** Quits: fred3 (~fred@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2794 [19:48:57] <nodiscc> depesz: your xorg.0.log was reporting (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" and other modules multiple times
2795 [19:49:14] *** Joins: x_ (~x@replaced-ip )
2796 [19:49:18] *** Joins: fred3 (~fred@replaced-ip )
2797 [19:49:21] <depesz> nodiscc: ok. how can I make it use intel driver?
2798 [19:49:26] *** Quits: x_ (~x@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2799 [19:49:38] <depesz> I need this box to have hardware-video-decode support. which supposedly should work.
2800 [19:49:45] *** Joins: jhutchin1_wk (~jonathan@replaced-ip )
2801 [19:50:29] <nodiscc> depesz: does it work without nomodeset now?
2802 [19:50:39] *** Joins: ald3baran (uid231815@replaced-ip )
2803 [19:50:46] *** Quits: jhutchins_wk (~jonathan@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2804 [19:51:04] <depesz> moment, doing reboot with nomodeset actually in /etc/default/grub
2805 [19:51:15] <depesz> ok. reboot: got console.
2806 [19:51:18] <nodiscc> nope, I meant, without it
2807 [19:51:19] <depesz> logging in and starting x
2808 [19:51:21] *** Quits: mkolenda (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2809 [19:51:30] <depesz> without nomodeset - no. it doesn't same problem.
2810 [19:51:34] <nodiscc> ok
2811 [19:51:54] <depesz> as in: black screen.
2812 [19:51:56] <jhutchin1_wk> depesz: What's your chipset?
2813 [19:52:05] <depesz> the thing is that this black screen happens without any x thing starting.
2814 [19:52:13] <depesz> jhutchin1_wk: how can I check?
2815 [19:52:22] <greycat> lspci -nn
2816 [19:52:41] <jhutchin1_wk> depesz: x probbably is starting, just not successfully. Your earlier message showed that it tried to start and failed.
2817 [19:52:51] <depesz> replaced-url
2818 [19:52:54] <depesz> jhutchin1_wk: no, it's not.
2819 [19:53:01] *** Joins: oish (~charlie@replaced-ip )
2820 [19:53:08] <jhutchin1_wk> depesz: Have you tried Ctrl-Alt-F1 to switch out of the dead screen?
2821 [19:53:09] <depesz> if i run with nomodeset, i get normal console and I can start x by doing startx from logged account
2822 [19:53:13] <depesz> i disabled sddm
2823 [19:53:15] <depesz> jhutchin1_wk: yes.
2824 [19:53:41] <depesz> i am 100% sure that without nodemoset comp starts, witout anything in x (i checked ps auxw output) and there is no visual
2825 [19:53:48] <depesz> so, something in the console does something wrong
2826 [19:54:10] <depesz> if you want, i can reboot one more time, without "nomodeset", ssh to the box, and get ps output and show you
2827 [19:54:31] <jhutchin1_wk> ,pciid 8086:3185
2828 [19:54:33] <judd> [8086:3185] is 'Unknown device' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'snd-hda-intel', 'ata-generic' in stretch. See also replaced-url
2829 [19:54:36] *** Joins: yo_man (~yo_man@replaced-ip )
2830 [19:55:51] *** Quits: wgas (~wgas@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2831 [19:55:59] <depesz> jhutchin1_wk: replaced-url
2832 [19:56:15] <depesz> this is ps output right after reboot, without nomodeset, with no video coming over hdmi.
2833 [19:56:51] *** Quits: BeamWatcher (~gashead76@replaced-ip ) (Read error: No route to host)
2834 [19:57:08] <depesz> judd : that's for me?
2835 [19:57:11] <jhutchin1_wk> depesz: If X fails to start it's not going to be running.
2836 [19:57:24] <thescientist> nodiscc: just checked those dependencies, only one missing is libproxy1 but i have the libproxy1v5
2837 [19:57:30] <greycat> It's for anyone trying to figure out what your video chipset is and whether it's supported or not.
2838 [19:57:32] *** Joins: sphenxes (~sphenxes@replaced-ip )
2839 [19:57:33] *** Quits: sphenxes (~sphenxes@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
2840 [19:57:34] <depesz> jhutchin1_wk: but it didn't even try to start after boot
2841 [19:57:45] <depesz> i disabled sddm
2842 [19:57:54] *** Joins: rek (~rek@replaced-ip )
2843 [19:57:55] *** Joins: soee (~soee@replaced-ip )
2844 [19:57:59] *** Joins: BeamWatcher (~gashead76@replaced-ip )
2845 [19:58:00] <jhutchin1_wk> depesz: That's what that black screen is.
2846 [19:58:01] <nodiscc> thescientist: how did you install the google-earth-pro package?
2847 [19:58:08] <depesz> i see that /var/log/Xorg.0.log is older than current boot
2848 [19:58:26] <depesz> jhutchin1_wk: as i said: i have no idea, but there is clearly something doing it that doesn't seem to be x-related.
2849 [19:58:29] *** Joins: guskr_ (~guskr@replaced-ip )
2850 [19:58:46] <depesz> in any way - how can I make X use intel driver for graphics?
2851 [19:59:28] <depesz> i guess what breaks my video normally is the same thing that changes font look on the console
2852 [19:59:32] *** Quits: yo_man (~yo_man@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2853 [19:59:35] <nodiscc> thescientist: if you installed it with 'dpkg -i google-earth-pro.deb', you need to run 'dpkg --configure -a' afterwards
2854 [20:00:07] <rek> it seems like it didn't change much since i added stretch backports
2855 [20:00:58] <nodiscc> depesz: yeah kernel modesetting is what makes the console font look good, and I don't think it's possible to have hardware video decoding without modesetting
2856 [20:00:59] *** Quits: zako2 (~zako3@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2857 [20:01:00] *** Joins: sbeller (quassel@replaced-ip )
2858 [20:01:08] *** Parts: sbeller (quassel@replaced-ip ) ()
2859 [20:01:27] *** Quits: Gostislav2 (~guskr@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2860 [20:01:27] <jhutchin1_wk> rek: You should read the documentation on the backports page. Just adding the repo does not make changes in your system.
2861 [20:01:52] <rek> i did apt-get update
2862 [20:01:54] *** Quits: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2863 [20:02:07] <depesz> nodiscc: how can I make console *not* do the thing with modesetting?
2864 [20:02:12] <depesz> or, force it to modeset to specific mode?
2865 [20:02:14] *** Joins: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip )
2866 [20:02:23] <petn-randall> rek: It seems like you didn't read the documentation yet.
2867 [20:02:28] <depesz> as i suspect it simply changes to wrong mode - one that my tv doesn't support.
2868 [20:02:37] <nodiscc> rek: by default backports package have lower priority, you have to pin them to a higher priority or specifically install a package with -t backports
2869 [20:02:42] <greycat> depesz: put "nomodeset" back in, and see if it works that way, and *THEN* start worrying about performance and crap
2870 [20:03:06] <depesz> greycat: with "nomodeset" it works - i get working console, and can get X using startx
2871 [20:03:09] <depesz> so i'm kinda past that.
2872 [20:03:18] <rek> replaced-url
2873 [20:03:25] <depesz> but I need hw-video-decoding, as the box is supposed to be media player
2874 [20:03:35] <nodiscc> depesz: I don't know, check what video card it is and if it's supported
2875 [20:03:40] <greycat> And you tested hw-video-decoding and it failed...?
2876 [20:03:43] *** Joins: yo_mane (~yo_mane@replaced-ip )
2877 [20:03:56] <depesz> greycat: i showed vainfo some time ago
2878 [20:04:01] <greycat> nodiscc: nobody knows whether it's supported, judd doesn't have anything, kmuto doesn't have anything
2879 [20:04:10] <depesz> it's built-in intel hd graphics thing.
2880 [20:04:14] <rek> nodiscc, i did the -t trick... i don't know if the packages listed in the terminal are the version i want uhm...i'm not sure but i'm there...
2881 [20:04:31] *** Parts: yo_mane (~yo_mane@replaced-ip ) ()
2882 [20:04:32] *** Joins: annadane (~annadane@replaced-ip )
2883 [20:04:43] <nodiscc> rek wait you need to be sure of what you are doing. I don't know your exact problem
2884 [20:05:08] *** Quits: lucad111 (~lucad111@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2885 [20:05:14] <jhutchin1_wk> depesz: You have a chipset that's not supported by current modules. You can try searchinf x.org for the pciid and see if there's a driver in the works upstream. It's vaguely possible that testing might be new enough to support it.
2886 [20:05:26] <rek> launched apt-get -t stretch-backports install nvidia-cuda-toolkit
2887 [20:05:33] <greycat> depesz: have you also checked for missing firmware errors from Linux?
2888 [20:06:07] *** Quits: BlueByte_ (~walther@replaced-ip ) (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
2889 [20:06:16] <depesz> jhutchin1_wk: i'm on sid
2890 [20:06:27] <jhutchin1_wk> depesz: Oh well.
2891 [20:06:27] <depesz> greycat: where can I check it?
2892 [20:06:42] <nodiscc> ,versions nvidia-cuda-toolkit
2893 [20:06:43] <judd> Package: nvidia-cuda-toolkit on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 4.2.9-2; wheezy-backports/non-free: 5.5.22-6~bpo70+2; jessie/non-free: 6.0.37-5; jessie-backports/non-free: 7.5.18-4~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 8.0.44-4; buster/non-free: 9.1.85-4+b1; sid/non-free: 9.1.85-4+b1
2894 [20:06:52] <greycat> depesz: dmesg | grep -i firmware
2895 [20:07:17] <rek> this command is reinstalling the old packages in my opinion!!!
2896 [20:07:17] <nodiscc> rek: you are on stretch?
2897 [20:07:21] <rek> i am
2898 [20:07:29] <depesz> greycat: replaced-url
2899 [20:07:56] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2900 [20:08:11] *** Joins: yo_mane (~yo_mane@replaced-ip )
2901 [20:08:19] <annadane> pasting on riseup, that's a first
2902 [20:08:21] <greycat> depesz: well, start by fixing those
2903 [20:08:24] <nodiscc> rek: apt-cache policy nvidia-toolkit
2904 [20:08:40] *** Joins: BlueByte_ (~walther@replaced-ip )
2905 [20:08:40] <nodiscc> (broken video card day)
2906 [20:08:43] <greycat> at least the ones that look relevant to video, i.e. you can probably skip the iwlwifi for now
2907 [20:09:01] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip )
2908 [20:09:14] *** Quits: Red_M_ (~potato@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2909 [20:09:26] <depesz> greycat: which one looks related to video? i see only bluetooth and wifi ?
2910 [20:09:44] <greycat> oh, is that what ibt is? I have no idea.
2911 [20:09:49] *** Quits: llucenic (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2912 [20:10:06] <depesz> bluetooth hci0: firmware: failed to load intel/ibt-17-16-1.sfi (-2)
2913 [20:10:09] <depesz> it sais bluetooth
2914 [20:10:11] <nodiscc> depesz: you're right, apparently only missing firmware for wifi, bt and nic
2915 [20:10:27] <depesz> it would be cool to get bt there, but I'm more interested in proper video
2916 [20:10:41] <rek> replaced-url
2917 [20:10:43] <greycat> Did stretch work?
2918 [20:10:44] <depesz> so, is there any way i can force kms to some specific mode?
2919 [20:10:56] <depesz> greycat: for me? no. same problems.
2920 [20:11:04] <rek> nodiscc, up
2921 [20:11:09] *** Joins: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
2922 [20:11:24] <depesz> i also tested other distributions, and everywhere same problem - blank screen while booting
2923 [20:11:37] *** Quits: tt (~chinggis6@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)
2924 [20:12:01] <greycat> Maybe your video chipset just isn't supported yet, or there's a hardware failure with this individual machine.
2925 [20:12:04] *** Joins: yasser (~yasser@replaced-ip )
2926 [20:12:32] <nodiscc> rek: you have nvidia-cuda-toolkit 8.0.44-4 installed, what version do you want?
2927 [20:12:51] *** Joins: Namll (~user@replaced-ip )
2928 [20:12:57] *** Quits: nobodi (~nobodi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2929 [20:12:58] <rek> nodiscc, i want to have my nvidia 390 driver and a compatible cuda toolkit like 9.1 i believe....
2930 [20:13:09] *** Joins: Caplain (~shayne@replaced-ip )
2931 [20:13:14] <rek> the one judd the mr bot said was good
2932 [20:13:16] <nodiscc> depesz: I bet on your chipset not being supported yet. I'd try to install firmware-linux-free firmware-linux-nonfree but seems like you're out of luxk
2933 [20:13:51] *** Joins: Red_M (~potato@replaced-ip )
2934 [20:13:51] *** Quits: Red_M (~potato@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
2935 [20:13:51] *** Joins: Red_M (~potato@replaced-ip )
2936 [20:13:54] <depesz> trying ...
2937 [20:14:06] <SlidingHorn> rek: that version isn't available in stretch (unless you want to build it yourself, which wouldn't be supported and could break dependencies elsewhere)
2938 [20:14:06] <nodiscc> rek: what's your current nvidia driver version, package name, and where did you get it from?
2939 [20:14:11] <Namll> if a network I am trying to connect to with EAP, would i just download the certficates from somewhere and place them in /etc/cert?
2940 [20:14:20] <nodiscc> rek: what SlidingHorn said
2941 [20:14:23] *** Joins: JARVISuk (~fgngfng@replaced-ip )
2942 [20:14:35] *** Quits: Caplain (~shayne@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2943 [20:14:42] <rek> 375.82 from repo
2944 [20:14:55] <nodiscc> rek: for recent video drivers I'd make sure I am at least using the latest debian stable release
2945 [20:14:58] <nodiscc> upgrade to jessie
2946 [20:15:06] <greycat> um what
2947 [20:15:25] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
2948 [20:15:36] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2949 [20:15:41] <rek> and just launched -t stretch-backports install nvidia-cuda-toolkit and i got that.... i had the 390.something from the website but here they told i can use stretch-backports to get cuda 9 and nvidia 390
2950 [20:15:41] <nodiscc> then to stretch
2951 [20:15:49] <depesz> nodiscc: installed. no change :(
2952 [20:15:59] *** Joins: donofrio_ (~donofrio@replaced-ip )
2953 [20:15:59] <rek> i'm in stretch
2954 [20:16:01] *** Joins: fatty (~stibium@replaced-ip )
2955 [20:16:05] *** Joins: cliq (~cliq@replaced-ip )
2956 [20:16:13] <rek> what judd said it was ok
2957 [20:16:22] *** Joins: masuberu (~masber@replaced-ip )
2958 [20:16:22] <annadane> is there a tentative date yet for 9.5?
2959 [20:16:22] *** Joins: boris_t_ (~boris_t@replaced-ip )
2960 [20:16:23] *** Joins: guskr__ (~guskr@replaced-ip )
2961 [20:16:32] <rek> ,checkbackports nvidia-driver nvidia-cuda-dev
2962 [20:16:34] *** Joins: metts (~metts@replaced-ip )
2963 [20:16:40] <rek> but not toolkit though
2964 [20:16:53] <rek> ,checkbackports nvidia-driver
2965 [20:16:56] <jelly> rek: I don't think anyone said you could get cuda toolkit 9 installed from stretch-backports
2966 [20:17:00] <greycat> stretch is the current stable release; jessie was the one before
2967 [20:17:03] *** Quits: stibium (~stibium@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2968 [20:17:03] *** Quits: _0bitcount (~Big_Byte@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2969 [20:17:06] <nodiscc> depesz: yeah well I'm waiting for the next stable too :) no luck
2970 [20:17:12] <rek> ,checkbackports nvidia-cuda-dev
2971 [20:17:18] <rek> look jelly
2972 [20:17:21] <jelly> rek: I said you could try to backport it yourself
2973 [20:17:28] <thescientist> nodiscc: i didnt know that but i just run that command and it made no difference (that i see)
2974 [20:17:40] <petn-randall> annadane: When it's Ready™. Those will only be updated installers, anyway. If you have stretch-updates in your repo list (you should) it will be the same than installing from the new point release.
2975 [20:17:40] *** Joins: _rubik (~wgriggs@replaced-ip )
2976 [20:17:46] <rek> oh shi* souhm what can i do_?
2977 [20:17:50] *** Joins: _0bitcount (~Big_Byte@replaced-ip )
2978 [20:17:51] <annadane> yeah, i get it, just a general question
2979 [20:17:53] <jelly> rek: and I pointed to instructions to do that, /msg dpkg simple sid backport
2980 [20:18:08] <annadane> just that i thought they had announced 9.5 a while ago, i wasn't sure how reliable my memory was
2981 [20:18:25] <jelly> rek: type this in your irc client: /msg dpkg ssb
2982 [20:18:35] <jelly> rek: you should get a private message from "dpkg" bot in return
2983 [20:18:45] *** Quits: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2984 [20:18:46] <rek> is judd tired?
2985 [20:18:48] <jelly> (in a different tab or window)
2986 [20:18:51] *** Joins: x10 (~x10@replaced-ip )
2987 [20:18:51] <rek> i messaged him
2988 [20:18:57] *** Quits: kliq (~cliq@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2989 [20:18:57] *** Quits: zso (~metts@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2990 [20:18:58] *** Quits: solarnetone (~scott@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2991 [20:18:58] *** Quits: MrRooks (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2992 [20:18:58] *** Quits: shahri_ (~shahri@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2993 [20:18:58] *** Quits: xsdg_ (~xsdg@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2994 [20:19:05] *** Joins: xsdg (~xsdg@replaced-ip )
2995 [20:19:09] *** Quits: czesmir_ (~stefan@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2996 [20:19:09] *** Quits: donofrio (~donofrio@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2997 [20:19:09] *** Quits: eblip (~eblip@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2998 [20:19:09] *** Quits: bachler (~bachler@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2999 [20:19:09] *** Quits: Mi5ter (~Mi5ter@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3000 [20:19:10] *** Joins: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip )
3001 [20:19:15] *** Joins: czesmir (~stefan@replaced-ip )
3002 [20:19:16] *** Joins: MrRooks (~quassel@replaced-ip )
3003 [20:19:17] *** Quits: MrRooks (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
3004 [20:19:17] *** Joins: MrRooks (~quassel@replaced-ip )
3005 [20:19:21] <rek> ssb doesn't work too
3006 [20:19:23] <jelly> rek: judd's "checkbackport" tests if it's possible to try making your own local backport at all
3007 [20:19:27] *** Quits: guskr_ (~guskr@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3008 [20:19:27] *** Quits: Tom__ (~tomg@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3009 [20:19:28] *** Quits: anthony25 (~anthony25@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3010 [20:19:28] *** Quits: SerajewelKS (~me@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3011 [20:19:28] <rek> ah ok
3012 [20:19:31] *** Joins: earthundead (~earthunde@replaced-ip )
3013 [20:19:42] *** Joins: shinnya (~shinnya@replaced-ip )
3014 [20:19:44] *** Quits: boris_t (~boris_t@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3015 [20:19:44] *** Quits: masber (~masber@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3016 [20:19:44] *** Quits: AJ_Z0 (~AJ_Z0@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3017 [20:19:46] *** Joins: bachler (~bachler@replaced-ip )
3018 [20:19:51] *** Joins: Tom__ (~tomg@replaced-ip )
3019 [20:19:51] *** Joins: anthony25 (~anthony25@replaced-ip )
3020 [20:20:09] *** Joins: SerajewelKS (~me@replaced-ip )
3021 [20:20:12] *** Quits: austin_laptop (~null@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3022 [20:20:18] *** Joins: solarnetone (~scott@replaced-ip )
3023 [20:20:21] *** Joins: shahri (~shahri@replaced-ip )
3024 [20:20:24] <jelly> judd's "version" tells if there's a ready-made backport (more precisely, it shows all the available versions for a package in all the current debian branches)
3025 [20:20:24] *** Joins: Mi5ter (~Mi5ter@replaced-ip )
3026 [20:20:31] <jelly> !ssb
3027 [20:20:31] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
3028 [20:20:35] *** Quits: happyfr0gg (~happyfr0g@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Shuts Down XChat.)
3029 [20:20:40] *** Joins: eblip (~eblip@replaced-ip )
3030 [20:20:42] *** Joins: austin_laptop (~null@replaced-ip )
3031 [20:20:47] <jelly> rek: you didn't get that in a PM
3032 [20:20:48] <jelly> ?
3033 [20:20:49] *** Joins: erasmus (~erasmus@replaced-ip )
3034 [20:20:52] <rek> yeah
3035 [20:20:55] <rek> sounds hard
3036 [20:20:56] <nodiscc> thescientist: then I don't know. If you're just working with KML/KMZ it should be possible to import/export to/from googleearth/marble as I said. Or you could try on a debian stable box
3037 [20:21:01] *** Joins: freddy_fcch_ (~freddy_fc@replaced-ip )
3038 [20:21:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1565
3039 [20:21:42] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
3040 [20:21:53] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3041 [20:22:02] *** Joins: fakefur (~fakefur@replaced-ip )
3042 [20:22:10] <jelly> if it's too hard I bet someone in here would be willing to do it instead of you, for a price
3043 [20:22:25] *** Joins: AJ_Z0 (~AJ_Z0@replaced-ip )
3044 [20:22:27] *** Quits: yo_mane (~yo_mane@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3045 [20:23:24] *** Quits: freddy_fcch (~freddy_fc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
3046 [20:23:52] *** Quits: sauvin (sauvin@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3047 [20:25:24] <nodiscc> interesting how much would you charge for backporting a package
3048 [20:26:09] <thescientist> nodiscc: thanks. I will try the stable option. Once again thank you.
3049 [20:26:23] <nodiscc> thescientist: np good luck
3050 [20:26:52] <jelly> nodiscc: LTS people do their thing at around 85eur/hr
3051 [20:27:15] <jelly> me, I'm more expensive personally :->
3052 [20:27:42] *** Quits: Tywin (~Tywin@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Tywin)
3053 [20:27:47] <tw> yeah, subcontracted technology or engineering work for less than 120 usd/hr equivalent is a bargain.
3054 [20:27:51] <nodiscc> okay :) good to know
3055 [20:28:31] <rek> ERROR: No supported gcc/g++ host compiler found, but clang-3.8 is available i installed gcc5 built it manually bootstrapped and put a link with ln now what can i do?
3056 [20:28:44] <rek> gcc5 is what is needed
3057 [20:28:52] *** Joins: dragon_ (~dragon@replaced-ip )
3058 [20:29:03] <jelly> !ask
3059 [20:29:03] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
3060 [20:29:14] *** Quits: mavhq (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3061 [20:29:19] <jelly> rek: ^
3062 [20:29:37] <jelly> if actual output is longer than 2-3 lines, do it in a pastebin
3063 [20:29:39] <jelly> !paste
3064 [20:29:39] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: replaced-url
3065 [20:29:52] <nodiscc> so why does fail2ban.service report as running when in fact fail2ban-client reload has failed?
3066 [20:29:52] <rek> slowdown i already know hehe
3067 [20:30:00] <dragon_> hey
3068 [20:30:13] <rek> should i add the built gcc5 in the path?
3069 [20:30:15] <dragon_> hiiiii
3070 [20:30:17] <dragon_> seeeeeex
3071 [20:30:24] *** Quits: dayten (~gnoid@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3072 [20:30:28] *** Joins: mavhq (~quassel@replaced-ip )
3073 [20:30:44] <dragon_> seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
3074 [20:30:44] <jelly> dragon_: wrong channel for chat. Try ##chat maybe and try to use complete sentences!
3075 [20:30:45] <annadane> no, just debian, sadly
3076 [20:30:59] <dragon_> ssssssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
3077 [20:31:04] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jelly
3078 [20:31:04] *** jelly sets mode: +q *!*@185.110.105.134
3079 [20:31:05] *** ChanServ sets mode: -o jelly
3080 [20:31:25] *** Quits: make91 (~make91@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3081 [20:31:40] <jelly> that's a bad dragon
3082 [20:31:55] *** Quits: pingveno_ (~pingveno@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
3083 [20:31:58] *** Joins: make91 (~make91@replaced-ip )
3084 [20:32:35] *** Joins: Moane (~anonymous@replaced-ip )
3085 [20:32:56] *** Quits: dragon_ (~dragon@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
3086 [20:35:35] *** Quits: Namll (~user@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3087 [20:35:52] *** Joins: pingveno_ (~pingveno@replaced-ip )
3088 [20:35:59] *** Quits: pingveno_ (~pingveno@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3089 [20:36:04] *** Quits: fred3 (~fred@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3090 [20:36:27] *** Quits: areyouloco (~areyouloc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3091 [20:36:39] *** Joins: fred3 (~fred@replaced-ip )
3092 [20:36:59] *** Quits: shinnya (~shinnya@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3093 [20:37:27] *** Quits: herbmillerjr (~herbmille@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3094 [20:37:57] *** Quits: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3095 [20:39:03] *** Joins: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip )
3096 [20:39:56] <jhutchin1_wk> nodiscc: Because it's created a pid file but has failed without removing it.
3097 [20:40:02] *** Quits: freddy_fcch_ (~freddy_fc@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3098 [20:40:23] *** Joins: zifxify (~zifxify@replaced-ip )
3099 [20:41:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1558
3100 [20:41:50] *** Joins: freddy (~freddy_fc@replaced-ip )
3101 [20:41:59] <rek> hey guys g++ -v tells me it's gcc6 then i must link it alsto to my gcc installation...
3102 [20:42:14] *** freddy is now known as Guest31443
3103 [20:42:20] *** Parts: jordila (~jordi@replaced-ip ) ()
3104 [20:43:04] *** Joins: holden- (~holden-@replaced-ip )
3105 [20:43:16] <nodiscc> jhutchin1_wk: thank you I'll look into that. I think it should return non-zero when there are errors. fail2ban bug or debian systemd service file bug
3106 [20:43:36] *** jhutchin1_wk is now known as jhutchins_wk
3107 [20:44:03] <jhutchins_wk> nodiscc: I would file it with Debian, let the devs push it upstream if needed.
3108 [20:44:45] *** Joins: psychicist__ (~psychicis@replaced-ip )
3109 [20:45:00] *** Quits: navlys (~smuxi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3110 [20:45:10] *** Joins: Eryn_1983_FL (~Eryn_1983@replaced-ip )
3111 [20:45:49] <nodiscc> will do
3112 [20:47:45] *** Quits: Eryn_1983_FL (~Eryn_1983@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
3113 [20:48:06] *** Joins: fax (~fax@replaced-ip )
3114 [20:48:57] *** Quits: thescientist (~the.scien@87.196.53.214) (Quit: Leaving)
3115 [20:49:08] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3116 [20:49:25] *** Joins: Eryn_1983_FL (~Eryn_1983@replaced-ip )
3117 [20:50:10] <depesz> got another datapoint - if I turn off tv, and then turn it back on - I get screen back. and even hardware support for video.
3118 [20:50:11] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
3119 [20:50:12] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
3120 [20:50:12] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
3121 [20:50:18] <depesz> any idea why i need to power cycle monitor *after* reboot?
3122 [20:50:19] *** Joins: herbmillerjr (~herbmille@replaced-ip )
3123 [20:50:28] <depesz> and also i have to re-start sddm afterwards
3124 [20:51:19] *** Quits: Eryn_1983_FL (~Eryn_1983@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
3125 [20:51:35] *** Quits: Murii_ (~vlad@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3126 [20:51:36] <annadane> sorry, this was kind of answered before but what has to happen for intel-microcode to be in stable as opposed to backports?
3127 [20:52:16] <greycat> For most packages I would have said "probably a point-release", but with non-free I don't know.
3128 [20:53:34] *** Quits: Merixer (~Merixer@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3129 [20:53:59] *** Joins: Eryn_1983_FL (~Eryn_1983@replaced-ip )
3130 [20:54:12] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
3131 [20:54:16] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3132 [20:55:22] <annadane> i think it's just testing to make sure it's robust enough
3133 [20:55:39] <annadane> still, bit of a tradeoff, leaves people vulnerable if they're not aware of backports
3134 [20:55:51] <annadane> (though spectre is harder to exploit)
3135 [20:55:57] *** Quits: Eryn_1983_FL (~Eryn_1983@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
3136 [20:55:57] <annadane> (than meltdown)
3137 [20:56:02] <greycat> Pssht, like the newer one is going to make anyone *not* vulnerable.
3138 [20:56:34] *** Joins: iulian_ (~iulian@replaced-ip )
3139 [20:57:14] *** Quits: BCMM (~BCMM@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
3140 [20:57:26] <depesz> alternatively - how can I make sddm try forever to restart, and not give up when it has problems?
3141 [20:57:44] <depesz> it is probably some kind of systemd configuration
3142 [20:58:56] *** Quits: jazz (~jazz@replaced-ip ) (Quit: The magician says "poof!")
3143 [21:00:05] *** Quits: stealintv (~stealintv@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3144 [21:00:33] *** Joins: Merixer (~Merixer@replaced-ip )
3145 [21:02:22] <depesz> currently, after reboot, i have: replaced-url
3146 [21:02:24] *** Joins: Ametrine (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
3147 [21:02:25] *** Quits: kunwon1 (~kunwon1@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3148 [21:02:26] *** Joins: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip )
3149 [21:02:26] *** Quits: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
3150 [21:02:26] *** Joins: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip )
3151 [21:02:40] <jelly> depesz: that would make it hard to be able to log in at the console, but I suspect you can easily change the unit to Restart
3152 [21:03:01] *** Joins: Satou (~jjj@replaced-ip )
3153 [21:03:03] *** Joins: kunwon1 (~kunwon1@replaced-ip )
3154 [21:03:07] <depesz> jelly: i don't quite understand what you mean
3155 [21:03:21] <annadane> greycat, maybe, it kind of depends on how easy you consider patches to be vs how hard they are to exploit
3156 [21:03:32] <GNU\colossus> depesz, you can have systemd restart a service unit if it exits under certain (i. e. error) conditions
3157 [21:03:36] <annadane> in the case of spectre
3158 [21:03:52] <depesz> GNU\colossus: how can I do it/check how it is set now
3159 [21:03:54] <depesz> ?
3160 [21:04:12] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
3161 [21:04:34] *** Quits: deeb (~dee@replaced-ip ) (Quit: deeb)
3162 [21:04:42] <GNU\colossus> to set that up, you can run `systemctl edit sddm.service`, and add "Restart=always" to the "[Service]" section
3163 [21:04:53] <GNU\colossus> you maybe also want something like "RestartSec=10s"
3164 [21:05:00] <GNU\colossus> to not make it attempt restarts every 100msec
3165 [21:05:03] *** Quits: UnsaneVirusez (~InsaneVir@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3166 [21:05:03] <jelly> depesz: if sddm is restarting all the time and switching over to virtual console 7 every couple seconds, it's hard to log in at virtual console 1
3167 [21:05:09] <depesz> how can I view current service settings?
3168 [21:05:09] *** Joins: errrasmus (~erasmus@replaced-ip )
3169 [21:05:18] <depesz> jelly: i can log via ssh
3170 [21:05:23] <GNU\colossus> `systemctl show <servicename>` shows the properties of a running service unit
3171 [21:05:27] *** Quits: tsuggs (~tsuggs@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3172 [21:06:04] <depesz> ok. it shows: Restart=always and RestartUSec=1s
3173 [21:06:10] <depesz> but it doesn't restart
3174 [21:06:48] <GNU\colossus> depesz, can you paste the service's journal? `journalctl -n 50 -u sddm.service`
3175 [21:06:48] *** Quits: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: pax)
3176 [21:07:11] <depesz> -- No entries --
3177 [21:07:29] <depesz> i guess it's a follow up with the problem with intel graphics in this box
3178 [21:07:35] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
3179 [21:07:37] <GNU\colossus> hrm. something's clearly amiss then.
3180 [21:07:38] *** Quits: herbmillerjr (~herbmille@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3181 [21:07:51] *** Quits: soee (~soee@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
3182 [21:07:54] <GNU\colossus> can you nopaste `systemctl cat sddm.service`?
3183 [21:08:05] *** Quits: erasmus (~erasmus@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
3184 [21:08:10] *** errrasmus is now known as erasmus
3185 [21:08:14] *** Ametrine is now known as Butt3rfly
3186 [21:08:19] <depesz> moment. rebooting
3187 [21:08:31] *** Joins: Eryn_1983_FL (~Eryn_1983@replaced-ip )
3188 [21:08:47] *** Quits: NetTerminalGene (~NetTermin@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3189 [21:09:20] <depesz> GNU\colossus: replaced-url
3190 [21:09:58] <depesz> it looks that graphics stop working because of some mode that console is setting, and this stops sddm from running. re-starting monitor fixes the problem, but then I have to start sddm manually :(
3191 [21:10:19] <GNU\colossus> the journal for your unit is still empty?
3192 [21:10:26] *** Quits: NerdTheThird (~NerdTheTh@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3193 [21:10:27] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3194 [21:10:43] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
3195 [21:10:44] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
3196 [21:10:44] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
3197 [21:10:54] *** Quits: rek (~rek@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3198 [21:11:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1552
3199 [21:11:09] <depesz> May 10 21:08:28 bednuc systemd[1]: Started Simple Desktop Display Manager.
3200 [21:11:14] <GNU\colossus> and do you have a service named "getty@tty7.service" active?
3201 [21:11:17] <depesz> but this was before last reboot, if i see it correctly
3202 [21:11:22] *** Quits: Eryn_1983_FL (~Eryn_1983@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
3203 [21:11:28] *** Joins: NerdTheThird (~NerdTheTh@replaced-ip )
3204 [21:11:30] *** Joins: jelangkung (~Name@replaced-ip )
3205 [21:11:34] *** Quits: nodiscc (~automatic@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
3206 [21:11:42] *** Joins: Eryn_1983_FL (~Eryn_1983@replaced-ip )
3207 [21:11:48] *** Joins: RebelCoder (~RebelCode@replaced-ip )
3208 [21:11:48] <GNU\colossus> I'm not sure off the top of my head about the Conflicts property, but these seem like contradicting each other
3209 [21:11:50] <depesz> getty@tty7.service loaded inactive dead Getty on tty7
3210 [21:11:56] <GNU\colossus> hm ok
3211 [21:12:10] <GNU\colossus> what happens when you manually try to start the sddm service?
3212 [21:12:14] <depesz> actually - now it started. looks like it needed 2-3 minutes to start.
3213 [21:12:19] <depesz> GNU\colossus: when i start manually it just works.
3214 [21:12:28] <depesz> as i mentioned - it seems to be related to the intel kms issue.
3215 [21:12:36] <GNU\colossus> then it's probably the tty7 After stanzas?
3216 [21:13:05] *** Joins: Otello (~Otello@replaced-ip )
3217 [21:13:35] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3218 [21:14:00] *** Quits: fakefur (~fakefur@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Gone coding...)
3219 [21:15:35] *** Joins: ragedragon (~ragedrago@replaced-ip )
3220 [21:16:25] *** Quits: NerdTheThird (~NerdTheTh@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3221 [21:16:52] *** Quits: sikun (~David@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3222 [21:17:23] *** Joins: tsuggs (~tsuggs@replaced-ip )
3223 [21:17:32] *** Joins: NerdTheThird (~NerdTheTh@replaced-ip )
3224 [21:17:54] *** Quits: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
3225 [21:18:37] *** Quits: oish (~charlie@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
3226 [21:18:46] *** Joins: tijeretas__ (~tijeretas@replaced-ip )
3227 [21:18:54] *** Joins: slv (~slv@replaced-ip )
3228 [21:20:26] *** Joins: fightthewalrus (~user@replaced-ip )
3229 [21:21:23] *** Quits: Tom__ (~tomg@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3230 [21:22:19] *** Joins: orbiter (~orbiter@replaced-ip )
3231 [21:22:41] *** Quits: NerdTheThird (~NerdTheTh@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
3232 [21:22:41] *** Joins: NerdTheThird (~NerdTheTh@replaced-ip )
3233 [21:23:32] *** Quits: kallesbar (~kallesbar@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
3234 [21:23:54] *** Joins: nibble_zero (~nibble_ze@replaced-ip )
3235 [21:24:57] *** Quits: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3236 [21:26:15] *** Joins: osro (~osro@replaced-ip )
3237 [21:28:10] *** Joins: btel (~btel@replaced-ip )
3238 [21:28:16] *** Joins: wredny (red@replaced-ip )
3239 [21:28:28] *** Joins: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip )
3240 [21:28:41] *** Joins: fakefur (~fakefur@replaced-ip )
3241 [21:29:37] *** Quits: fakefur (~fakefur@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3242 [21:29:41] *** Quits: necrose99 (~necrose99@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3243 [21:29:51] <btel> Hi Guys, I'm jumping from CentOS board to Debian, and have been googling on firewalld vs iptables, looks like iptables is primarily used on Debian , can anyone shed some light ? I'm used to of firewalld on CentOS7 and would prefer to use it on Debian also
3244 [21:29:59] *** Quits: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
3245 [21:30:13] *** Joins: fakefur (~fakefur@replaced-ip )
3246 [21:30:13] *** Joins: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip )
3247 [21:30:30] *** Quits: BlueByte_ (~walther@replaced-ip ) (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
3248 [21:30:52] *** Quits: fakefur (~fakefur@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
3249 [21:31:51] <tw> btel: install it. package is named exactly that.
3250 [21:32:09] *** Quits: slv (~slv@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3251 [21:32:19] *** Quits: a_l_b (~a_l_b@replaced-ip ) (Quit: a_l_b)
3252 [21:33:14] *** Quits: Guest31443 (~freddy_fc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
3253 [21:33:21] *** Quits: Adbray (~Adbray@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3254 [21:33:44] <btel> Thanks tw, But it seems default installation has iptables on debian , do I need to uninstall it first? If any cheat sheet pls point to me.
3255 [21:33:44] <cmm11> btel: iirc firewalld is a front-end for iptables
3256 [21:33:54] *** Quits: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: nix64bit)
3257 [21:33:55] *** Quits: Otello (~Otello@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving...)
3258 [21:34:04] <greycat> iptables is not *used* (configured) by default, so having it installed is irrelevant
3259 [21:34:19] *** Joins: jticket (~jticket@replaced-ip )
3260 [21:34:19] *** Quits: jticket (~jticket@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
3261 [21:34:19] *** Joins: jticket (~jticket@replaced-ip )
3262 [21:35:36] *** Joins: Adbray (~Adbray@replaced-ip )
3263 [21:35:55] *** Quits: naos62 (~naos62@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
3264 [21:37:08] <btel> So lets say I remove iptables (apt-get remove iptables), then install firewalld ...If firewalld is front end of iptables then it should re-install iptables as being dependency ?
3265 [21:37:17] <greycat> ,depends firewalld
3266 [21:37:18] <judd> Package firewalld in stretch/amd64 -- depends: dbus, gir1.2-glib-2.0, iptables, policykit-1, python3-dbus, python3-gi, python3-slip-dbus, init-system-helpers (>= 1.18~), python3:any (>= 3.3.2-2~).
3267 [21:37:32] <greycat> installing firewalld will reinstall iptables for you, since that's a dependency
3268 [21:37:43] <greycat> you could save some time by NOT removing iptables first
3269 [21:37:55] *** Quits: jelangkung (~Name@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3270 [21:38:10] * kot finds this funny
3271 [21:38:28] *** Joins: BCMM (~BCMM@replaced-ip )
3272 [21:38:33] *** Quits: dutchfish (~wil@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Splash, leaving the bowl)
3273 [21:39:00] <Eryn_1983_FL> /msg alis LIST offtopic
3274 [21:39:10] <btel> got it ..thanks a lot guys!
3275 [21:39:17] <babilen> btel: iptables/netfilter is the underlying mechanism that allows you to filter packages, there are many tools that do nothing else but configure them to your liking via a different interface
3276 [21:40:01] *** Joins: naos62 (~naos62@replaced-ip )
3277 [21:40:11] <btel> yup..right.
3278 [21:40:17] *** Joins: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip )
3279 [21:40:21] <kot> packets*
3280 [21:41:09] <babilen> heh, yeah
3281 [21:41:16] <babilen> s/packages/packets
3282 [21:41:18] *** Quits: zifxify (~zifxify@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
3283 [21:41:20] <babilen> *sigh*
3284 [21:41:23] <kot> ufw is particularly easy
3285 [21:41:26] *** Quits: Adbray (~Adbray@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3286 [21:41:44] <babilen> ferm is worth a look too
3287 [21:41:45] *** Joins: Adbray (~Adbray@replaced-ip )
3288 [21:41:46] <kot> or gufw if you want a gui front end
3289 [21:42:37] *** Joins: hanfm (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
3290 [21:43:16] *** Joins: sz0 (uid110435@replaced-ip )
3291 [21:43:27] <tijeretas__> Does iptables take up 3GB, or is there another issue with just leaving it there unconfigured? :)
3292 [21:44:01] <at0m> iptables "Installed-Size: 1,580 kB"
3293 [21:44:02] <greycat> stretch also has nftables, but I've never used it
3294 [21:45:15] <kot> i guess we'll all have to learn nftables sooner or later though.
3295 [21:45:56] <babilen> bpf :)
3296 [21:46:16] *** Quits: ponyofdeath (~vladi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.1)
3297 [21:46:23] <babilen> replaced-url
3298 [21:46:30] *** Parts: fujisan (uid4207@replaced-ip ) ()
3299 [21:46:35] *** Quits: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3300 [21:46:41] *** Joins: areyouloco (~areyouloc@replaced-ip )
3301 [21:47:01] *** Joins: zifxify (~zifxify@replaced-ip )
3302 [21:47:14] *** Quits: Adbray (~Adbray@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
3303 [21:47:22] *** Quits: hanfm (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
3304 [21:47:25] <tw> I hesitant about running a bytecode interpreter as a packet filter, but it seems to work well enough.
3305 [21:47:28] <tw> *I'm
3306 [21:48:04] <babilen> replaced-url
3307 [21:48:18] *** Quits: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
3308 [21:48:22] <babilen> Either way .. I don't think that uninstalling iptables is warrented in this particular case
3309 [21:48:25] <greycat> "to stop everyone from switching to OpenBSD and pf"?
3310 [21:48:30] <babilen> heh
3311 [21:48:58] *** Quits: ongolaBoy (~ongolaBoy@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
3312 [21:49:18] *** Joins: Adbray (~Adbray@replaced-ip )
3313 [21:50:19] *** Joins: _ADN_ (~username@replaced-ip )
3314 [21:50:46] *** Joins: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip )
3315 [21:51:06] *** Quits: query (~lnx@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3316 [21:51:14] *** Joins: query (~lnx@replaced-ip )
3317 [21:51:42] *** Quits: p0358 (p0358@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
3318 [21:52:14] *** Quits: olegfusion (~olegfusio@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3319 [21:52:20] *** Joins: p0358 (p0358@replaced-ip )
3320 [21:52:24] *** Joins: alx_fly (~alex@replaced-ip )
3321 [21:52:36] <tw> Oh, so instead of bytecode interpreting as in nftables, bpf is executing machine code instead.
3322 [21:52:49] <tw> which is dynamically loaded and unloaded from userspace.
3323 [21:53:03] <kot> bpf + ngrep ftw
3324 [21:53:05] <tw> Same problem, except worse.
3325 [21:53:35] *** Joins: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip )
3326 [21:53:40] *** Quits: Worldexe (~Worldexe@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3327 [21:55:27] *** Quits: fred3 (~fred@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3328 [21:55:46] *** Joins: Tom__ (~tomg@replaced-ip )
3329 [21:56:05] *** Joins: fred3 (~fred@replaced-ip )
3330 [21:57:43] *** Joins: necrose99 (~necrose99@replaced-ip )
3331 [21:58:01] *** Joins: ponyofdeath (~vladi@replaced-ip )
3332 [21:58:02] *** Quits: istevenmon (~jmoncayo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
3333 [21:58:27] *** Joins: istevenmon (~jmoncayo@replaced-ip )
3334 [21:58:51] *** istevenmon is now known as Guest86343
3335 [21:59:10] *** Quits: strass (~strass@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Bye Bye)
3336 [21:59:41] *** Quits: zifxify (~zifxify@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - ##replaced-url
3337 [22:00:26] *** Quits: ald3baran (uid231815@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
3338 [22:00:40] *** Joins: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip )
3339 [22:00:58] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
3340 [22:01:11] *** Joins: sugarfree (~sugarfree@replaced-ip )
3341 [22:01:42] *** Joins: olegfusion (~olegfusio@replaced-ip )
3342 [22:01:59] *** Joins: Noldorin (~noldorin@replaced-ip )
3343 [22:02:55] *** Joins: strass (~strass@replaced-ip )
3344 [22:03:13] *** Joins: Caplain (~shayne@replaced-ip )
3345 [22:03:28] *** Joins: nekoseam (~neko@replaced-ip )
3346 [22:04:08] *** Joins: Gaaab (~Gaaab@replaced-ip )
3347 [22:04:09] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3348 [22:05:01] *** Quits: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3349 [22:05:25] *** Joins: well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip )
3350 [22:05:42] *** Quits: SteelGolem__ (~SteelGole@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3351 [22:06:05] *** Joins: leerg319 (~alexey@replaced-ip )
3352 [22:06:09] *** Joins: SteelGolem__ (~SteelGole@replaced-ip )
3353 [22:06:13] *** Joins: phinxy (~ted@replaced-ip )
3354 [22:06:45] *** Quits: shabius (~shabius@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3355 [22:07:39] *** Quits: toorop (~toorop@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3356 [22:07:59] *** Quits: Caplain (~shayne@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3357 [22:08:23] *** Joins: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip )
3358 [22:08:59] *** Quits: Schmetterwurm (~Schmetter@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3359 [22:09:10] *** Parts: tijeretas__ (~tijeretas@replaced-ip ) ()
3360 [22:09:22] *** Joins: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip )
3361 [22:10:12] *** Joins: CaptainN (zelda@replaced-ip )
3362 [22:10:52] *** Quits: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
3363 [22:11:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1558
3364 [22:11:36] *** Joins: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip )
3365 [22:12:02] *** Joins: Brigo (~Brigo@replaced-ip )
3366 [22:12:30] *** Quits: `slikts (~nelabs@replaced-ip ) (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)
3367 [22:13:07] *** Joins: hanetzer (~hanetzer@replaced-ip )
3368 [22:13:35] *** Quits: Typhon (~Typhon@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
3369 [22:13:37] *** Joins: `slikts (~nelabs@replaced-ip )
3370 [22:13:37] *** Quits: `slikts (~nelabs@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
3371 [22:13:37] *** Joins: `slikts (~nelabs@replaced-ip )
3372 [22:13:40] *** Joins: M3B0 (~M3B0@replaced-ip )
3373 [22:14:06] <hanetzer> hey. having a bit of issue locating the berkely db package on packages.debian.org; its called sys-libs/db in gentoo, does anyone have a more precise name for it?
3374 [22:14:27] *** Quits: sugarfree (~sugarfree@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3375 [22:14:48] <greycat> libdb-dev is one of them
3376 [22:14:54] <greycat> ,info libdb-dev
3377 [22:14:55] <judd> Package libdb-dev (libdevel, extra) in stretch/amd64: Berkeley Database Libraries [development]. Version: 5.3.1; Size: 2.3k; Installed: 8k
3378 [22:15:07] *** Quits: my2c (~my2c@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3379 [22:15:45] <hanetzer> are any of the 6.x versions packaged?
3380 [22:16:13] *** Joins: dethos (~dethos@replaced-ip )
3381 [22:16:54] *** Joins: Murii_ (~vlad@replaced-ip )
3382 [22:17:57] *** Quits: Gaaab (~Gaaab@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3383 [22:19:08] *** Joins: shabius (~shabius@replaced-ip )
3384 [22:19:19] *** Quits: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3385 [22:19:51] <greycat> ,v libdb6.0-dev
3386 [22:19:53] <judd> No package named 'libdb6.0-dev' was found in amd64.
3387 [22:20:15] *** Joins: Gaaab (~Gaaab@replaced-ip )
3388 [22:20:33] <greycat> ?? ... packages.debian.org gives me search results including this pacakge, but then if I click the package, it says "No such package."
3389 [22:20:42] *** Quits: impy (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
3390 [22:20:42] <jhutchins_wk> hanetzer: libdb5.3
3391 [22:20:57] *** Quits: candidat (~zark@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3392 [22:21:04] *** Quits: erasmus (~erasmus@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3393 [22:22:14] *** Quits: brokencycle (~brokencyc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3394 [22:22:18] *** Joins: wgas (~wgas@replaced-ip )
3395 [22:23:12] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
3396 [22:23:13] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
3397 [22:23:13] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
3398 [22:23:36] *** Joins: hyperreal (hyperreal@replaced-ip )
3399 [22:24:20] *** Joins: devwatchdog (~devwatchd@replaced-ip )
3400 [22:24:30] *** Joins: toorop (~toorop@replaced-ip )
3401 [22:24:50] *** Quits: guskr__ (~guskr@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3402 [22:25:03] *** Joins: guskr__ (~guskr@replaced-ip )
3403 [22:25:21] *** Quits: daze (~daze@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3404 [22:26:11] *** Joins: Pr0metheus (~nezos@replaced-ip )
3405 [22:26:35] *** Quits: areyouloco (~areyouloc@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3406 [22:26:46] *** Quits: argus (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
3407 [22:28:43] *** Joins: yasser_ (~yasser@replaced-ip )
3408 [22:28:56] *** Joins: Sri_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip )
3409 [22:29:20] *** Joins: deeb (~dee@replaced-ip )
3410 [22:30:11] *** Quits: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
3411 [22:30:49] *** Joins: Typhon (~Typhon@replaced-ip )
3412 [22:31:09] *** Quits: Adbray (~Adbray@replaced-ip ) (Disconnected by services)
3413 [22:31:15] *** Joins: Adbray_ (~Adbray@replaced-ip )
3414 [22:31:20] *** Quits: sidmo (~crunch@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
3415 [22:31:27] *** Quits: yasser (~yasser@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3416 [22:31:44] *** Quits: deeb (~dee@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
3417 [22:32:19] *** Quits: dendazen (~dendazen@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
3418 [22:33:09] *** Quits: Adbray_ (~Adbray@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3419 [22:33:47] *** Joins: un214 (~un214@replaced-ip )
3420 [22:34:13] *** Joins: Adbray (~Adbray@replaced-ip )
3421 [22:34:14] *** Joins: sidmo (~ilven@replaced-ip )
3422 [22:36:05] *** Joins: Sn00py0011 (~Sn00py@replaced-ip )
3423 [22:36:53] *** Quits: Adbray (~Adbray@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3424 [22:37:00] *** Quits: psychicist__ (~psychicis@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
3425 [22:37:34] *** Joins: UnsaneVirusez (~InsaneVir@replaced-ip )
3426 [22:37:43] *** Joins: Adbray (~Adbray@replaced-ip )
3427 [22:37:47] *** Joins: styvy (~styvy@replaced-ip )
3428 [22:38:18] *** Quits: nekoseam (~neko@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
3429 [22:38:35] *** Joins: Thedarkb-X40 (~beno@replaced-ip )
3430 [22:40:26] *** Quits: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3431 [22:40:46] *** Joins: MACscr|lappy (~MACscr|la@replaced-ip )
3432 [22:41:17] <rant> would anyone happen to know how to undo this absolutely retarded behavior of gtk scrollbars seeking to a location clicked rather than just paging up/dn like every scrollbar in the history of computing has done when you clicked on it?
3433 [22:41:18] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o eir
3434 [22:41:19] *** eir sets mode: -qo *!*@185.110.105.134 eir
3435 [22:41:44] <annadane> yeah i'd also like to know that
3436 [22:41:54] <greycat> rant: you missed the Athena widgets era, I see.
3437 [22:42:00] *** Joins: hanfm (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
3438 [22:42:09] <rant> greycat: apparently :P
3439 [22:42:16] *** Quits: hanfm (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
3440 [22:42:39] *** Quits: dethos (~dethos@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3441 [22:42:43] <greycat> replaced-url
3442 [22:42:56] *** Quits: platvoeten (~platvoete@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
3443 [22:43:05] <greycat> If you ever used xman or other programs from that era, that's how they behave.
3444 [22:43:18] <rant> when stuff like this happens I feel like some bloody mad hatter has gone and replaced my OS with Windows or something
3445 [22:43:31] <hanetzer> the un-os!
3446 [22:44:18] <rant> actually I feel way more frustrated and stupified when I go to scroll down a damn dialog and it jumps to the end than I do when windows didnt know to copy the text I highlighted
3447 [22:44:19] <greycat> I mean, yeah, that also sucks for everyone who has become used to the "normal behavior" of scrollbars from Windows and similar toolkits, but it's a thing.
3448 [22:44:40] *** Quits: AquaL1te (~AquaL1te@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
3449 [22:45:03] *** Parts: Sn00py0011 (~Sn00py@replaced-ip ) ("Leaving")
3450 [22:45:06] *** Quits: Murii_ (~vlad@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3451 [22:45:08] *** Joins: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip )
3452 [22:45:16] <rant> most things are a thing.. doesnt make em a good thing :P
3453 [22:45:26] <annadane> "siri, go down 3/4 of the way down the p- no, that's too far, a little bit m- no, that's also wrong, i mean just about where th- fuck it, i'll do it myself"
3454 [22:45:31] <greycat> xman doesn't even let you specify the page to read as a command line argument :-/
3455 [22:45:39] *** Quits: devwatchdog (~devwatchd@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3456 [22:45:44] *** Quits: Sri_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
3457 [22:46:01] *** Parts: hanetzer (~hanetzer@replaced-ip ) ("WeeChat 2.1")
3458 [22:46:31] *** Joins: charking (~charking@replaced-ip )
3459 [22:46:59] *** Joins: voidSurf_ (~voidSurfr@replaced-ip )
3460 [22:47:25] <charking> Hello. Is there a way to make Unattended-Upgrade check for and apply updates on boot? I have a Debian VM which I boot and use for short periods of time every now and then. Its packages don't seem to get updated because it is not on long enough.
3461 [22:47:35] *** Quits: voidSurfr (~voidSurfr@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3462 [22:47:39] * kot remembers all those endearingly ugly x tools
3463 [22:48:10] *** abff is now known as pinbot
3464 [22:48:15] <greycat> you could put an @reboot command in /etc/crontab, or put something in /etc/rc.local
3465 [22:48:20] *** Joins: Sri_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip )
3466 [22:48:33] <bites> or you could write a systemd unit.
3467 [22:48:52] <greycat> so much overkill
3468 [22:49:26] *** Quits: Moane (~anonymous@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3469 [22:49:26] <mutante> you copy an example one and just change the Exec line
3470 [22:49:27] <greycat> But sure, that's also a correct answer.
3471 [22:49:34] <jhutchins_wk> ...or you could just remember to update it before you shut down.
3472 [22:49:39] *** Quits: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3473 [22:49:53] *** Joins: lifeframe (uid290080@replaced-ip )
3474 [22:50:01] *** pinbot is now known as abff
3475 [22:51:13] *** Joins: bolovanos (~bolovanos@replaced-ip )
3476 [22:51:56] <charking> Thanks. I'm not sure how to actually invoke unattended-upgrade though. It seems like it's normally invoked as part of the /etc/cron.daily/apt script.
3477 [22:52:09] *** Joins: slack_ (~slack@replaced-ip )
3478 [22:52:10] <charking> I'll try to figure it out
3479 [22:52:43] <bites> you just run the binary.
3480 [22:52:49] *** Joins: CarlosSutana (~CarlosSut@replaced-ip )
3481 [22:53:39] <tw> There's always Unattended-Upgrade::InstallOnShutdown
3482 [22:54:23] <charking> tw: I wasn't sure that checked for updates on shutdown? If it checks, then that would work! I'll look
3483 [22:54:33] *** Quits: mzf (~fakhraee@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3484 [22:54:58] <tw> 90-something percent sure it does.
3485 [22:55:10] *** Quits: Dirkson (~Dirkson@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Cheers!)
3486 [22:55:23] *** Quits: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
3487 [22:55:24] *** Joins: mzf (~fakhraee@replaced-ip )
3488 [22:55:52] *** Quits: tagomago (~tagomago@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
3489 [22:56:25] *** Quits: Sri_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
3490 [22:57:17] *** Joins: tagomago (~tagomago@replaced-ip )
3491 [22:58:33] *** Quits: imfearless (~imfearles@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
3492 [22:58:57] *** Quits: Adbray (~Adbray@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3493 [22:59:30] *** Quits: Satou (~jjj@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Cya soon guys!)
3494 [22:59:35] *** Quits: MACscr|lappy (~MACscr|la@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
3495 [22:59:38] *** Quits: jhutchins_wk (~jonathan@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3496 [22:59:39] <charking> tw: From /usr/share/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrade-shutdown it looks like it does indeed
3497 [23:00:13] *** Joins: dendazen (~dendazen@replaced-ip )
3498 [23:00:14] *** Joins: Adbray (~Adbray@replaced-ip )
3499 [23:00:16] *** Quits: M3B0 (~M3B0@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3500 [23:00:22] <charking> tw: if Unattended-Upgrade::InstallOnShutdown: p = subprocess.Popen(["unattended-upgrade"] ...)
3501 [23:00:31] *** Joins: briner (~briner@replaced-ip )
3502 [23:00:39] *** Quits: guskr__ (~guskr@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3503 [23:00:47] *** Joins: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip )
3504 [23:01:02] *** Joins: guskr__ (~guskr@replaced-ip )
3505 [23:01:06] <charking> unless the environment variables change unattended-upgrades behavior. hmm
3506 [23:02:21] *** Quits: loader (~loader@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3507 [23:03:22] *** Quits: yasser_ (~yasser@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3508 [23:03:36] *** Joins: nobodi (~nobodi@replaced-ip )
3509 [23:03:47] *** Joins: yasser_ (~yasser@replaced-ip )
3510 [23:03:48] *** Joins: dmarr (znc@replaced-ip )
3511 [23:03:57] *** Quits: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
3512 [23:04:27] *** Quits: Adbray (~Adbray@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3513 [23:04:34] *** Joins: Adbray_ (~Adbray@replaced-ip )
3514 [23:05:58] *** Quits: gb00s (~gb00s@replaced-ip##) (Quit: The Lounge - ##replaced-url
3515 [23:06:14] *** Quits: nibble_zero (~nibble_ze@replaced-ip ) (Quit: nibble_zero)
3516 [23:08:29] *** Quits: _aeris_ (~aeris@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3517 [23:08:29] *** Joins: argus (~down@replaced-ip )
3518 [23:08:47] *** Quits: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
3519 [23:08:52] *** Quits: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
3520 [23:08:53] *** Quits: Adbray_ (~Adbray@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3521 [23:09:05] *** Joins: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip )
3522 [23:09:10] *** Joins: _aeris_ (~aeris@replaced-ip )
3523 [23:09:19] *** Joins: Adbray (~Adbray@replaced-ip )
3524 [23:09:42] *** Quits: osro (~osro@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3525 [23:09:45] *** Quits: CarlosSutana (~CarlosSut@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3526 [23:10:14] *** Joins: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip )
3527 [23:10:32] *** Joins: GenTooMan (~cyberman@replaced-ip )
3528 [23:11:23] *** Quits: fionnan (~fionnan@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
3529 [23:11:50] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
3530 [23:12:23] *** Quits: trumee (~trumee@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3531 [23:12:32] *** abff is now known as thebride
3532 [23:12:49] *** thebride is now known as pinbot
3533 [23:12:50] *** Quits: thiras (~thiras@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
3534 [23:12:57] *** pinbot is now known as the_bride
3535 [23:13:20] *** the_bride is now known as jackbot
3536 [23:13:30] *** Quits: Adbray (~Adbray@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3537 [23:13:35] *** Quits: Pr0metheus (~nezos@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Pr0metheus)
3538 [23:13:37] *** Quits: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
3539 [23:13:47] *** Quits: briner (~briner@replaced-ip ) (Quit: briner)
3540 [23:13:51] *** jackbot is now known as gorgar
3541 [23:14:14] *** Joins: Adbray (~Adbray@replaced-ip )
3542 [23:15:27] *** Joins: trumee (~trumee@replaced-ip )
3543 [23:15:41] *** Quits: ragedragon (~ragedrago@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
3544 [23:16:31] *** Quits: guskr__ (~guskr@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3545 [23:16:34] *** Quits: Tom__ (~tomg@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
3546 [23:16:51] *** Joins: clemens3_ (~clemens@replaced-ip )
3547 [23:16:58] *** Joins: guskr__ (~guskr@replaced-ip )
3548 [23:17:26] *** Joins: astronaut_ (~astronaut@replaced-ip )
3549 [23:18:13] *** Joins: coderphive (~coderphiv@replaced-ip )
3550 [23:18:20] *** Quits: towo` (~towo@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3551 [23:18:49] *** Quits: nobodi (~nobodi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3552 [23:19:59] *** Quits: earthundead (~earthunde@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3553 [23:20:56] *** gorgar is now known as pin-bot
3554 [23:21:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1545
3555 [23:21:02] *** Joins: make91_ (~make91@replaced-ip )
3556 [23:21:07] *** pin-bot is now known as embryon
3557 [23:21:21] *** Jacob8432 is now known as Jacob843
3558 [23:21:46] *** Joins: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip )
3559 [23:22:35] *** Quits: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3560 [23:22:37] *** Quits: Arimil (~Renari@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3561 [23:22:39] *** Quits: charking (~charking@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
3562 [23:22:48] *** Quits: fred3 (~fred@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3563 [23:23:18] *** Joins: fred3 (~fred@replaced-ip )
3564 [23:24:00] *** Quits: make91 (~make91@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
3565 [23:25:17] *** Quits: astronaut_ (~astronaut@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3566 [23:25:26] *** Quits: greycat (~wooledg@replaced-ip ) (Quit: They see me clawin' the love seat / They won't do nothin' 'cause I'm cute and furry)
3567 [23:25:56] *** Joins: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip )
3568 [23:26:37] *** Joins: Renari (~Renari@replaced-ip )
3569 [23:26:52] *** Joins: guskr_ (~guskr@replaced-ip )
3570 [23:28:05] *** Quits: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3571 [23:28:23] *** Quits: dendazen (~dendazen@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3572 [23:28:33] *** Joins: thiras (~thiras@replaced-ip )
3573 [23:28:52] *** Joins: MACscr|lappy (~MACscr|la@replaced-ip )
3574 [23:29:46] *** Joins: Nekojimi (~jimj316@replaced-ip )
3575 [23:30:20] *** Quits: Levure (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3576 [23:30:29] *** Quits: guskr__ (~guskr@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3577 [23:34:42] *** Quits: __marco (~marco@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3578 [23:34:57] *** Quits: _0bitcount (~Big_Byte@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3579 [23:35:15] *** Joins: _0bitcount (~Big_Byte@replaced-ip )
3580 [23:36:16] *** Quits: chuun (~user@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3581 [23:36:58] *** Quits: superflit (~superflit@replaced-ip ) (Quit: superflit)
3582 [23:37:12] *** Joins: chuun (~user@replaced-ip )
3583 [23:39:19] *** Joins: superflit (~superflit@replaced-ip )
3584 [23:39:59] *** Quits: robotroll (~robotroll@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3585 [23:41:15] *** Joins: robotroll (~robotroll@replaced-ip )
3586 [23:42:11] *** Quits: somnambler (~michael@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
3587 [23:43:54] *** Quits: Guest86343 (~jmoncayo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3588 [23:43:58] *** Joins: elevated_ (~elevated@replaced-ip )
3589 [23:44:18] *** Quits: snadge (snadge@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3590 [23:44:21] *** Joins: istevenmon (~jmoncayo@replaced-ip )
3591 [23:44:28] *** Joins: snadg3 (snadge@replaced-ip )
3592 [23:44:45] *** istevenmon is now known as Guest82375
3593 [23:44:53] *** Parts: styvy (~styvy@replaced-ip ) ("Leaving")
3594 [23:45:15] *** Quits: un214 (~un214@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3595 [23:45:22] *** Quits: necrose99 (~necrose99@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
3596 [23:45:26] *** Quits: elevated (~elevated@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
3597 [23:46:31] *** Quits: _0bitcount (~Big_Byte@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3598 [23:46:42] *** Quits: cliq (~cliq@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
3599 [23:48:28] *** Quits: lldd_ (~atrapado@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3600 [23:49:08] *** Quits: czesmir (~stefan@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
3601 [23:49:30] *** Joins: rasusto (~rasusto@replaced-ip )
3602 [23:49:48] *** Joins: Tom__ (~tomg@replaced-ip )
3603 [23:50:00] *** Quits: bertbob (~bertbob@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3604 [23:50:34] *** Quits: fp7 (~fp7@replaced-ip ) (Quit: .)
3605 [23:51:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1534
3606 [23:51:36] *** Joins: u0_a172 (~u0_a172@replaced-ip )
3607 [23:51:59] *** Joins: cliq (~cliq@replaced-ip )
3608 [23:54:09] *** Joins: erasmus (~erasmus@replaced-ip )
3609 [23:54:29] *** Quits: Thedarkb-X40 (~beno@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3610 [23:54:45] *** Quits: u0_a172 (~u0_a172@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.1)
3611 [23:54:59] *** Joins: erdave (~erdave@replaced-ip )
3612 [23:56:45] *** Joins: yasser__ (~yasser@replaced-ip )
3613 [23:57:09] *** Joins: eric_G (~ericG@replaced-ip )
3614 [23:58:38] *** Quits: ben_roose (~roose@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3615 [23:58:48] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
3616 [23:58:49] *** Quits: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
3617 [23:58:49] *** Joins: argusbr (~down@replaced-ip )
3618 [23:58:55] *** Quits: annadane (~annadane@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3619 [23:59:13] *** Joins: benrob0329_ (~benrob032@replaced-ip )
3620 [23:59:39] *** Quits: yasser_ (~yasser@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3621 [23:59:49] *** Joins: dendazen (~dendazen@replaced-ip )
↑ top
context: nick names on moving displays as market values
#debian Freenode IRC channel closed on 2021-06-01
contact: a @ her0. be