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3 [00:00:24] <davesp> No.
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13 [00:03:33] <davesp> "apt-get" won't kill connections. Also, first-time config via a remote connection is bound to have issues; maybe consider doing a local config.
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21 [00:07:46] <bug> unstable support is on #debian-next on oftc.
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36 [00:18:54] <Azrael_-> bug: #debian-next is invite only :(
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39 [00:20:07] <bug> i think you only need to register your nick
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41 [00:20:15] <Unit193> Azrael_-: That's because you tried joining #debian-next here, not on OFTC.
42 [00:20:46] <Azrael_-> Unit193: thanks, my bad
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44 [00:23:43] <Unit193> 'Welcome.
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49 [00:26:05] <davesp> How does one join an invite-only channel?
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56 [00:27:39] <RobertLM78> I've got a question about the 'Depnends' line of control in the DEBIAN folder for making packages..... I have exhausted my search and amazed that I couldn't find what should be a relatively easy thing to answer: what if a package has *NO* dependencies. I can successfully build the package with leaving it blank, but I know that's more of a hack....
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60 [00:30:44] <mutante> RobertLM78: doesnt seem like a hack to me but normal: if there are none, it says there are none
61 [00:31:16] <mutante> what happens if you remove the entire line?
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65 [00:32:49] <RobertLM78> Okay, couldn't remember how what happened there so I just removed it and rebuilt
66 [00:33:10] <RobertLM78> It doesn't have a problem building, but the Lintian output compains:
67 [00:33:44] <RobertLM78> W: GematriaFBC: missing-depends-line
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69 [00:34:08] <RobertLM78> Now, I know that the name of the package itself isn't compliant (yet) ;)
70 [00:34:31] <RobertLM78> So that is definitely adding to the Lintian output
71 [00:35:28] <mutante> RobertLM78: does this help? replaced-url
72 [00:35:33] <mutante> "The package contains an ELF binary with dynamic dependencies, but does not have a Depends line in its control file. This usually means that a call to dpkg-shlibdeps is missing from the package's debian/rules file."
73 [00:35:43] <mutante> does it have an ELF binary?
74 [00:36:16] <RobertLM78> Ah... yep...... I know why :D
75 [00:36:20] <mutante> maybe that "call to dpkg-shlibdeps" is something to check out
76 [00:36:21] <RobertLM78> Hehehe - thanks!
77 [00:36:25] <mutante> :) welcome
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81 [00:37:39] <RobertLM78> Yeah... it's written in FreeBASIC (hence the FB ;) )... and that uses external libraries.
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83 [00:37:51] <RobertLM78> Duh...
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85 [00:38:00] <RobertLM78> I can't believe I didn't think about that :P
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87 [00:38:24] <RobertLM78> Alright... I think I know what's needed now
88 [00:38:45] <mutante> cool!
89 [00:40:13] <RobertLM78> Thanks...! As this is the first thing I've created that is worth trying to package and release, I'd like to get it right. I just finished a basic manpage, too :D
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91 [00:40:42] <mutante> :) congrats
92 [00:40:52] <RobertLM78> 8-)
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123 [01:02:21] <awal1> ,v refind
124 [01:02:22] <judd> Package: refind on amd64 -- stretch: 0.10.4-1; buster: 0.11.2-1; sid: 0.11.2-1
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126 [01:05:16] <rpifan> ive used refind before nice util
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129 [01:06:18] <awal1> ok
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131 [01:07:10] <awal1> looking for a find/xargs frontend
132 [01:07:35] <awal1> a gui frontend I mean
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134 [01:07:57] <awal1> or any pkg with same features
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137 [01:08:10] <awal1> like 'catfish' for mlocate/locate
138 [01:08:32] <mandeep> all of a sudden my system is hard freezing. is there a log i can check that might give me a hint as to what's causing this?
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143 [01:11:07] <awal1> check .xsession-errors, xorg logs (.local/share/xorg) and kernel logs (dmesg), mandeep
144 [01:11:38] <awal1> also journalctl (content almost same as dmesg)
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150 [01:15:10] <antoine____> Hello, I am trying to run something that needs "libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0". It looks like this is from the package "libgtk2.0-0" so I installed it but the package still says that it misses "libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0".
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154 [01:15:44] <antoine____> Did I miss something here?
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198 [01:44:21] <Thedarkb-X40> The Debian firmware ISO refuses to load my wifi module.
199 [01:44:40] <Thedarkb-X40> I'll need to modprobe it in next time I try and install Debian.
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217 [01:59:58] <davesp> #debian-next
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246 [02:15:49] <davesp> antoine___ : Have you tried "sudo synaptic"?
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338 [03:42:11] <KNERD> In Dbeian 8, in my iptables rules I have 2 lines: :INPUT DROP [25:1582] :FORWARD DROP [0:0] Using itables -l --line-numners does not show up so I cannot delete them.
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340 [03:42:17] <KNERD> So how can i?
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343 [03:43:12] <toruvinn> KNERD, i think those are the default policies?
344 [03:43:19] <toruvinn> KNERD, those you change with -P?
345 [03:43:40] <toruvinn> like, iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT for example
346 [03:43:46] <toruvinn> (which is a bad idea, btw)
347 [03:44:45] <KNERD> Oddly, when listing all of then near the end is the opposite .. :INPUT ACCEPT [350285:149773232] :FORWARD ACCEPT [1147:76220] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [285125:130879856]
348 [03:45:45] <toruvinn> KNERD, different table.
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350 [03:46:05] <toruvinn> KNERD, you know that iptables is called that cause you have multiple tables for different stuff? the default one is filter. you have nat, raw and some othersw.
351 [03:46:24] <toruvinn> KNERD, pay attention to *tablename in the file too. assuming you're looking at iptables-save output
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353 [03:46:59] <KNERD> Yes, I am looking at iptables-save
354 [03:47:37] <toruvinn> (i was never a fan of iptables-save, btw, i much prefer having a script build it up from the scratch - because in a script there's some logic involved in it which - if you understand from beggining to the end, it's much easier to grasp your rules than a random mess of stuff you just save-load between reboots)
355 [03:48:23] <KNERD> understandabloe. I do know I have to remove those 2 lines I orignallu posted as they ar i nterfering
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367 [03:57:59] <danielboston26> anyone here know about debian for windows?
368 [03:58:31] <danielboston26> speficially how to add a file from the windows side to "debian"(basically bash)
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373 [03:59:46] <mutante> danielboston26: oh, i was about to tell you replaced-url
374 [04:00:02] <mutante> that's debian (installer) for Windows
375 [04:00:02] <KNERD> toruvinn: your advice sort of worked, but.... those 2 lines are still in iptables.
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386 [04:04:59] <danielboston26> *crickets* guess no one doesk
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391 [04:06:06] <KNERD> danielboston26: no, because we use the real deal :-)
392 [04:06:40] <somiaj> danielboston26: you aren't clear what you mean by 'add to debian', also is this the same box dual boot, or two different machines.
393 [04:07:13] <somiaj> also I don't understand why you want to 'add bash to debian' from windows, so some clarification will help
394 [04:07:17] <mutante> something about the so called "subsystem for Linux" which isn't running Linux
395 [04:07:32] <mutante> GNU/Windows or whatnot
396 [04:08:16] <somiaj> GNU/Windows? cgywin?
397 [04:08:22] <mutante> no, this replaced-url
398 [04:08:31] <KNERD> No..it's Linux for WIndows.
399 [04:08:31] <danielboston26> its basically bash on windows but now MS is offering different "flavors" theres a debian ubuntu suse and a bunch others
400 [04:08:38] <KNERD> there should be a pwd
401 [04:08:40] <mutante> Windows Subsystem for Linux
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404 [04:10:14] <somiaj> if that is what is being discussed, this doesn't seem like the correct place to support it.
405 [04:10:25] <somiaj> though unsure (except using microsoft support) what to use.
406 [04:11:00] <danielboston26> somiaj since MS is using debian branding i thought someone here might of heard of it
407 [04:11:02] <danielboston26> or used it
408 [04:11:36] <danielboston26> they did invent linux after all :P
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410 [04:11:44] <somiaj> I'm not sure what this 'linux substystem is', but I ahve a feeling it isn't a 'pure debian' which is what we support here.
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413 [04:13:51] <somiaj> ahh wikipedia makes it sound like 'wine' but the other way, so allowing one to run linux binaries in windows, "WSL provides a Linux-compatible kernel interface developed by Microsoft (containing no Linux kernel code[1])", so yea this sounds like something you need to get windows support from.
414 [04:14:04] <somiaj> maybe ##windows could help with this, though unsure of what channel would be appropriate.
415 [04:14:39] <danielboston26> figured someone here might be running it its a pretty cool thing actually
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417 [04:15:13] <somiaj> most here just use debian as their primary os, or on servers, but even if someone here does run this, support of microsfot's tools is not on topic here.
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429 [04:22:33] <toruvinn> KNERD, those lines will stay in your iptables-save file. they're there to save the policy on each chain.
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431 [04:22:39] <toruvinn> KNERD, check man iptables for -P
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439 [04:35:45] <neutrak> $ curl -i replaced-url
440 [04:35:46] <neutrak> HTTP/1.1 403 FORBIDDEN
441 [04:35:47] <neutrak> FYI
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445 [04:37:59] <KNERD> toruvinn: yeah..thanks
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496 [05:24:23] <wr> when install a deb with dpkg -i and it has missing dependencies what command should be used to fix them?
497 [05:24:51] <karlpinc> "Debian branding"? (Perhaps a topic for #debian-offtopic...)
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499 [05:25:22] <karlpinc> wr: Generally you don't install debs directly. You use apt-get or aptitude. Why are you installing a .deb?
500 [05:26:13] <wr> karlpinc, keepassxc not on repos
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502 [05:27:36] <karlpinc> wr: (What does that do?) You'd install the dependencies with apt-get or aptitude. But beware of frankendebian.
503 [05:27:43] <karlpinc> !tell wr about frankendebian
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505 [05:31:29] <karlpinc> !tell wr about usrlocal
506 [05:32:05] <karlpinc> wr: Following the factoid links in the usrlocal factoid can also be helpful when installing stuff on Debian that is not in Debian.
507 [05:32:35] <wr> karlpinc, how would you install replaced-url
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510 [05:35:40] <karlpinc> wr: Haven't done it in a while. I'd probably follow the instructions at replaced-url
511 [05:35:45] <karlpinc> !stow
512 [05:35:45] <dpkg> well, stow is a nifty program used to manage a /usr/local/ hierarchy. It keeps all the programs separate, so you can install and remove them without playing the "which program does that file belong to" game; ask me about <stow usage>. replaced-url
513 [05:36:23] <karlpinc> wr: Shouldn't be hard to use stow. You just need to read the directions.
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516 [05:37:30] <karlpinc> wr: The hard part, especially with security related software, is keeping up with fixes. So you'll want to subscribe to a mailing list (or something) that notifies you when security fixes are available so you can re-install with a fixed version.
517 [05:38:00] <karlpinc> !stow usage
518 [05:38:00] <dpkg> A quick intro to <stow>: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/stow/program-version && make && make install; cd /usr/local/stow/ ; stow program-version. Use stow -D to remove. See also <usrlocal>.
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520 [05:39:57] <karlpinc> wr: keepassxc does not seem to use ./configure, so you'd use DESTDIR=/usr/local/stow/keepassxc-x.x.x (whatever version) instead (before running make).
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523 [05:40:48] <Unit193> Could just ask for a backport, no?
524 [05:41:02] <wr> karlpinc, installed it
525 [05:41:03] <karlpinc> wr: The other question is why use that program and not something in Debian already? You have to answer that for yourself, although you can ask here about other programs with similar functionality. (You may be told to, e.g., see the <search> factoid to go look for yourself. :-)
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527 [05:41:34] <Unit193> ,v keepassxc
528 [05:41:35] <judd> Package: keepassxc on amd64 -- buster: 2.3.1+dfsg.1-1; sid: 2.3.1+dfsg.1-1
529 [05:41:35] <karlpinc> Unit193: Is it in unstable?
530 [05:41:51] <karlpinc> Unit193: Good point.
531 [05:42:18] <karlpinc> !ssb
532 [05:42:18] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
533 [05:42:51] <karlpinc> wr: A very good choice is backporting it yourself. See above. You still need to keep up with security updates.
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639 [07:05:04] <FarhaadN> hi all, i got this error on command "fdisk -l"
640 [07:05:05] <FarhaadN> Partition 3 does not start on physical sector boundary.
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642 [07:05:43] <FarhaadN> what should i do?
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646 [07:07:29] <somiaj> FarhaadN: What are you trying to do?
647 [07:07:52] <somiaj> is there anything on partition 3? can you access it despite fdisk complaining? Are you trying to recover data, etc.
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655 [07:10:47] <wanderer_> hello?
656 [07:12:33] <FarhaadN> somiaj: i want to cope some data on that
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658 [07:12:58] <wanderer_> I had a laptop that ceased to turn on one day to due to, what I presume to be, a hardware malfunction. I succesfully managed to extracted the hard drive an place it in an usb adapter. I want to install debian on that now external hard rive and boot from it in a latop. Would that be possible?
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660 [07:13:35] <wanderer_> I apologize for all the typos.
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662 [07:15:24] <wanderer_> I had a laptop that ceased to turn on one day due to (what I presume to be) a hardware malfunction. I succesfully managed to extract the hard drive from it and place it in an usb adapter. I want to install Debian on that now external hard drive and boot from it on another new latop. Would that be possible?
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664 [07:17:12] <wanderer_> There are instruction for installing to and booting from an external USB drive, but I don't know, if these same instructions are applicable to an external HDD.
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670 [07:20:44] <FarhaadN> somiaj: give you my message on channel?
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675 [07:26:13] <FarhaadN> a ask my question again
676 [07:26:19] <FarhaadN> i*
677 [07:26:24] <FarhaadN> i got this error on command "fdisk -l"
678 [07:26:25] <FarhaadN> Partition 3 does not start on physical sector boundary.
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719 [07:48:20] <FarhaadN> i ask my question again
720 [07:48:25] <FarhaadN> i got this error on command "fdisk -l"
721 [07:48:30] <FarhaadN> Partition 3 does not start on physical sector boundary.
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733 [07:59:08] <themill> FarhaadN: that's not an error
734 [07:59:21] <alex_rus> wanderer_:definitely no
735 [07:59:56] <alex_rus> you cant dd hdd with iso
736 [08:00:41] <alex_rus> FarhaadN:bad news
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786 [08:37:16] <Azrael_-> hi
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790 [08:38:02] <Azrael_-> i've got a monitor which doesn't scale properly. some parts of the desktop aren't visible. unfortunately the monitor doesn't have options to fix this. can i use debian for this purpose?
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816 [08:49:52] <iflema> Azrael_-: any more details? like ... Monitors naitive resolution, current set resolution, type of graphics adapter and the driver in use?.
817 [08:50:06] <iflema> Azrael_-: "some parts" a little slither or half the screen?
818 [08:50:46] <Azrael_-> left+upper can't be seen completely. will try to tell you the details in a few minutes. the installation was just screwed, just reinstalling :D
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821 [08:51:25] <iflema> Azrael_-: itll be good for ya...
822 [08:51:28] <iflema> =)
823 [08:52:30] <iflema> Azrael_-: upper left ok during install?
824 [08:53:55] <Azrael_-> yes, but during the installation there is also always a border all around. like this i can't really tell if i see really everything all the time
825 [08:54:25] <Azrael_-> i admit it is a tv which i am using as a screen. that's why i don't have options to modify it on the tv itself :(
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829 [08:55:49] <iflema> you could probably find details out during... but no rush and the info is not necessairly for me. Just put it on the record...
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851 [09:05:56] <Azrael_-> it was about 0,5cm which wasn't visible on the left and the top. can't tell much regarding the rest yet
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858 [09:07:49] <nse> Hi, guys. I've just finished the installation of Electric Sheep following the instructions here: replaced-url
859 [09:07:50] <nse> a about how can I start it? That's it, my friends. I hope you're having a good Saturday. Embraces and just good things.
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889 [09:27:08] <RobertLM78> Got the Lintian output to two items :D
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912 [09:40:05] <Azrael_-> iflema: found the options, to adjust the display. now it fits like a charm :)
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915 [09:41:20] <rfs> hey guys, need some help with updating hexchat. The current version available via apt-get is not the latest. I tried to manually install it but it requires mason and its the problem, it requires a newer version than I have. Debian 9
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919 [09:42:51] <somiaj> why do you want to update hexchat. Debian is a frozen system and in most cases suggested you use the version in debian.
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921 [09:43:08] <rfs> the up to date version for hexchat is broken
922 [09:43:19] <rfs> there is a newer version that fixed a few issues
923 [09:43:27] <iflema> Azrael_-: goodone. Nice work... :D
924 [09:43:33] <somiaj> ,hexchat
925 [09:43:38] <somiaj> ,v hexchat
926 [09:43:39] <judd> Package: hexchat on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 2.10.0-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2.10.1-1+deb8u2; jessie-backports: 2.12.4-3~bpo8+1; stretch: 2.12.4-3; stretch-backports: 2.14.1-2~bpo9+1; buster: 2.14.1-2; sid: 2.14.1-2
927 [09:43:48] <somiaj> rfs: is the new version 2.14 by chance?
928 [09:43:51] <rfs> yep
929 [09:44:12] <rfs> which fixes an issue with FiSH
930 [09:44:14] <somiaj> should have looked in stretch-backports frist, and install it from there
931 [09:44:28] <rfs> how do i do that?
932 [09:44:41] <Azrael_-> what is the best option to connect to the gnome-gui of debian from a windows-machine? (vncserver only shows a grey output)
933 [09:44:51] <somiaj> !stretch-backports
934 [09:44:51] <dpkg> Some packages intended for Buster (Debian 10) but recompiled for use with Stretch (Debian 9) can be found in the stretch-backports repository. See replaced-url
935 [09:44:56] <somiaj> !backports
936 [09:44:56] <dpkg> A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. replaced-url
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938 [09:45:41] <rfs> so adding the reps to my apt won't upgrade the whole system?
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940 [09:45:48] <rfs> repos*
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942 [09:46:14] <somiaj> the backports repo is specificly designed to work with stretch, and due to pinning only packages you explicity ask for come from backports.
943 [09:46:32] <somiaj> the packages don't have the same security/testing as normal packages, but they work fine for the most part
944 [09:46:46] <rfs> I get a bit nervous to run apt-get update when adding a different release. I dont want a cascade effect on dependencies
945 [09:46:49] <somiaj> well as the ones in stretch proper
946 [09:47:10] <somiaj> the backport repo is pinned in such a way, only things you have explicity asked for get upgraded
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949 [09:47:20] <rfs> oh cool
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951 [09:47:27] <iflema> Azrael_-: do you need the actual GUI or just a terminal?
952 [09:47:47] <Azrael_-> iflema: i want the actual gui. terminal is already available using openssh
953 [09:47:53] <iflema> i
954 [09:48:26] * iflema im fresh out of ideas
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956 [09:49:11] <rfs> somiaj, I might be doing something wrong. Still giving me the same version after doing apt-get update
957 [09:49:32] <Azrael_-> vnc failed, for xrdp i only found guides for using it with xfce and teamviewer failed to install. only thing i remember was something like x11-forwarding. but this is ages ago when i did this
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959 [09:50:31] <somiaj> apt policy hexchat, then apt -t stretch-backports install hexchat (you ahve to explicty tell apt to use the backports)
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961 [09:51:37] <rfs> yea I did, still not doing it
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963 [09:51:52] <rfs> under version table its showing me the 2.14 version
964 [09:51:59] <somiaj> did you add the repo?
965 [09:52:04] <rfs> yes
966 [09:52:05] <Azrael_-> iflema: ok, will try x2go next :)
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968 [09:52:13] <rfs> deb replaced-url
969 [09:52:31] <somiaj> well provide some output at paste.debian.net, but if you see it under apt policy hexchat, just make sure you use the -t stretch-backports flag
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972 [09:53:02] <blaztek> Azrael_-: will Chrome Remote Desktop work?
973 [09:53:22] <Azrael_-> blaztek: never heard about it yet. gotta read up about it
974 [09:53:33] <blaztek> okay
975 [09:54:25] <rfs> somiaj, replaced-url
976 [09:54:52] <Azrael_-> blaztek: could work but i don't like such cloud mechanisms. at least i avoid them if i can
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978 [09:55:38] <rfs> sorry wrong paste website, will upload to debian.net
979 [09:55:48] <somiaj> that is fine
980 [09:55:59] <somiaj> anyways, I don't see why it isn't installing the version from stretch backports
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982 [09:56:36] <somiaj> oh wait I do, why do you have stretch pinned at 1000?
983 [09:56:42] <somiaj> you shouldn't be using pinning that way
984 [09:56:52] <rfs> I havent changed anything I dont think
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986 [09:57:32] <somiaj> you ahve done something, -t will only pin at 990, which isn't bigger than 1000
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988 [09:57:43] <rfs> right
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990 [09:58:05] <rfs> where do I change the pin?
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992 [09:58:21] <somiaj> in /etc somewhere, not postitve, I don't usually mess with pinning
993 [09:59:15] <somiaj> it is like /etc/apt/prefferences (or inside the .d directory)
994 [09:59:25] <rfs> yea you were right
995 [09:59:37] <rfs> i had some entries there when I was trying to install firefox quantum
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998 [10:00:00] <somiaj> were you mixing sid and stretch sources, lots of terrible guides on the inetnet about that.
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1000 [10:00:08] <rfs> yea thats what I did
1001 [10:00:18] <rfs> but yea, thanks a lot somiaj
1002 [10:00:22] <rfs> its all good now
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1071 [10:37:47] <Keyboard_Ninja> Hello. Is there a quick way to create package pin? Example command: "apt pin --current-version kvirc". And this command creates the file "/etc/apt/preferences.d/kvirc" with all necessary content?
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1075 [10:38:52] <R1ch> Hello
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1080 [10:43:38] <Keyboard_Ninja> When I wrote the question, I was able to create a correct search query. I think that in my case the "Put a package on hold" will help
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1096 [10:52:45] <Azrael_-> i've just installed a desktop computer and it seems like it goes into suspension/standby all the time after a specific amount of time. already change all options i found in the options manager but somehow i missed something. can you give me a hint?
1097 [10:52:59] <Azrael_-> it shall never go into sleep mode
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1122 [11:06:18] <_KaszpiR_> Azrael_- bios settings?
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1127 [11:07:18] <cluelessperson> I'm confused. The preseed documentation says to put the preseed.cfg file at the root of the USB drive
1128 [11:07:25] <cluelessperson> but the USB drive file system is read only
1129 [11:07:31] <cluelessperson> and it cannot be made writable
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1137 [11:09:37] <Azrael_-> _KaszpiR_: no idea yet. now i disabled the runlevel-targets and hope for the best
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1162 [11:22:24] <Guest22> I am trying to download Debian Testing (with firmware), specifically the weekly build with the Cinnamon DE. However, I cannot find the ISOs in the directory. I've tried searching online, but am confused by the directory structure. This is the link, yet I see no ISOs. replaced-url
1163 [11:22:24] <Guest22> y-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/
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1180 [11:28:07] <jelly> Guest22: live or installer image?
1181 [11:28:48] <Guest22> @jelly: Live Image. Although, I will settle for installer if I cannot find Live.
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1183 [11:29:58] <jelly> if you look at the logs you'll see the builds failed
1184 [11:30:52] <pav> hi jelly
1185 [11:31:15] <jelly> hi
1186 [11:31:29] <pav> feeling good saturday? :)
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1188 [11:31:50] <Guest22> @jelly : Yes, I just did. I could use the previous week's live-image but I cannot find a mirror that has an older image. Could you point me in the right direction ?
1189 [11:32:34] <jelly> Guest22: there probably isn't one, testing images are ephemeral
1190 [11:32:48] <jelly> esp. daily and weekly builds
1191 [11:33:12] <Guest22> @jelly: In your opinion, what is the alternative I have ?
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1193 [11:33:55] <pav> jelly: i have several strange issues with "including-firmware" branch. Finally installed from netinst and did also by hands
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1195 [11:34:26] <jelly> Guest22: what's your goal?
1196 [11:34:49] <pav> diid rest* by hands
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1198 [11:35:33] <Guest22> @jelly : I am looking at installing Debian Testing (to stay on the leading edge for newer versions but not the bleeding edge) and my favoured DE is Cinnamon.
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1202 [11:36:25] <pav> Guest22: why do you want Debian leading edge?
1203 [11:36:32] <jelly> Guest22: if you actually want to install testing, and not test the future installer, start by installing stretch, perhaps just the base system, then do an in-place upgrade to buster, then install the rest
1204 [11:37:02] <Guest22> @pav : Could you elaborate on the 'Strange Issues' you have faced ?
1205 [11:37:19] <jelly> !install testing
1206 [11:37:19] <dpkg> Daily built <netinst> images to install <testing> are available from replaced-url
1207 [11:37:34] <jelly> dpkg, stretch->buster
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1209 [11:37:34] <dpkg> Don't run Debian "testing" just after a release unless you like helping fix bugs. Testing is a pre-release distribution without timely security support; ask me about <moving target> <testing> <testing security>. If you feel you need instructions on how to upgrade, you should wait a while.
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1211 [11:37:43] <jelly> ha
1212 [11:38:04] <Guest22> @pav : Debian Stable, is good but I'd prefer to have newer versions of programs that I use.
1213 [11:38:25] <jelly> do you also prefer a system that breaks often?
1214 [11:38:38] <pav> Yes I can Guest22. It was not daily build, it was offical "with wirmware" ISO. Couldn't make install at all on my sytstem. finall I used plain netinst
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1218 [11:39:31] <jelly> pav: did you manage to file an installation report? (also, images with firmware are by definition unofficial...)
1219 [11:39:46] <Guest22> @jelly: That sounds like a reasonable alternative, starting with stretch and then changing over to buster. It's just that the weekly live-image would have been more convenient.
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1222 [11:40:42] <pav> Guest22: it's a Debian. Concept of "new things" are kind complicated to understand at first. It's not like for example "new ubuntu" evene ubuntu is Debian derivate
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1224 [11:40:51] <jelly> Guest22: I suppose you can join the live-build team and help fix them
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1228 [11:41:31] <pav> jelly: I coluldnt make troughg LVM + Grub combiation with that iso
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1231 [11:41:44] <Guest22> @jelly and @pav : Yes, in the long run, I'd like to contribute to the community. But I need to get started first.
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1233 [11:42:26] <Logg> This has happened twice so far: after upgrading graphics card, and the system has been up for 18000 seconds, the pc speaker beeps and the message `do_IRQ: 6.36 No irq handler for vector` appears in dmesg every 20 to 200 seconds. Both times were after 18000 seconds aka 5 hours.
1234 [11:42:57] <pav> jelly: no, couldn boot at all. Grub2 didn't want to install and install broked while installing base system
1235 [11:44:02] <pav> jelly I remember message, partly "couldn't install base system"
1236 [11:44:23] <jelly> that's not a lot
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1239 [11:45:45] <jelly> Guest22: also, live images are really meant to try out without installing; the separate installer iso has less bugs even if live now also includes the installer bits.
1240 [11:46:07] <pav> Guest22: you can contribute in many ways, try to find something youre quite good in and start with contributing in that area, to see what Debian is and Why Debian.
1241 [11:46:33] <pav> jelly: do we have some kind of "Why Debian, and why not"?
1242 [11:46:56] <Guest22> @jelly: I'll give a thought to the separate installer. Thanks !
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1244 [11:47:20] <pav> jelly: that's nothing, not a "not a lot" :P
1245 [11:47:31] <Guest22> @pav: Yes, indeed. I'll work my way up. Thanks for the help :)
1246 [11:47:55] <pav> You're welcome Guest22
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1248 [11:49:28] <jelly> pav: that's not a lot of diagnostic info to try suggest something to fix it
1249 [11:49:50] <jelly> !why debian
1250 [11:49:50] <dpkg> Debian strives to maintain your freedom whilst also paying close attention to the technical aspects of making a great OS. Debian is stable, upgradable and well tested. See also replaced-url
1251 [11:50:03] <jelly> !why not debian
1252 [11:50:43] <Azrael_-> if i want to recompile the kernel and want an amd64, what target arch do i have to use?
1253 [11:51:05] <pav> jelly: i just wanted to pointed out that there are real issues with that branch in stable also. Not surprised daily builds have problems.
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1255 [11:52:07] <pav> we all know what "daily builds" relay are :D
1256 [11:52:15] <pav> really*
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1275 [12:04:15] <Logg> Is there a way to just, block error messages?
1276 [12:04:31] <Logg> ones that show up in dmesg
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1310 [12:22:02] <agio> Logg: you can filter dmesg using `dmesg --level 4' will only show entries of "warning" (or notice) and higher - is that what you mean?
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1317 [12:26:30] <Logg> Well, it's apparently at level 1. nothing is apparently wrong, but it spams these very high priority messages about irq vectors being missing
1318 [12:27:04] <Logg> so filtering at even level 1, it won't stop it... I want to solve it, but if I can't, just stopping the error message would also fix it.
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1326 [12:31:01] <agio> Logg: why not just leave it alone - and live with the output ?
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1329 [12:31:53] <Logg> it beeps the pcspeaker every 20 to 200 seconds. as a work around, I have "rmmod pcspkr", but that breaks my pcspkr for any program that might want to use it. Log file spam is also a reason
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1333 [12:32:54] <m2source> hello
1334 [12:33:02] <agio> ok , yeah thats annoying
1335 [12:33:24] <Logg> agio, thank your for your sympathies.
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1338 [12:34:52] <Logg> m2source, if you have a question, you can ask it.
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1341 [12:35:47] <agio> Logg: what command/ how are you reading the log?
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1343 [12:37:19] <Logg> agio, "do_IRQ: 6.36 No irq handler for vector". I think it might be because I didn't accidentally uninstalled firmware-realtek while installing my graphics card. Need to wait 5 hours to find out -- it's failed twice in a row after uptime of 18000 seconds
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1346 [12:38:55] <Logg> system is up for 5 hours, eth0 link goes down for a period of 4 seconds before going back up again, then the do_IRQ spam begins.
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1349 [12:39:24] <Logg> should be just firmware-realtek hopefully.
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1351 [12:40:45] <agio> Logg: wouldn't you get a firmware error if you had a prob with realtek package - what I meant was - what command are you using to read the log?
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1354 [12:40:58] <Logg> dmesg. it's logged to /var/log/kern.log
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1413 [13:14:10] <jelly> !printk
1414 [13:14:10] <dpkg> rumour has it, printk is see docs for <sysctl> and adjust /etc/sysctl.conf kernel.printk (3 4 1 7 or so). You can also use 'dmesg -n1' command. See replaced-url
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1416 [13:14:50] <jelly> Logg: you might configure this ^ for a higher setting to avoid some of those messages going to console
1417 [13:15:46] <jelly> until the underlying issue is solved
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1421 [13:17:18] <Logg> I did try "dmesg -n 1", but it still logged the error messages. so I think they're coming out at that highest priority level.
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1423 [13:19:07] <Logg> I may look into if I can disable "only the highest priority" if it can't be solved any other way
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1425 [13:19:48] <Logg> ideally, it would be regex based and I could just say "specifically, I do not want any messages from do_IRQ"
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1429 [13:22:19] <jelly> kernel does it on its own, there's no way to filter
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1432 [13:23:12] <Logg> feature request for 4.17: introduce regex based filtering of system messages
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1502 [14:07:25] <davegarath> Hi all! I'm trying to setup a boot crypted root device in lvm getting key from usb stick. Something goes wrong. So before rebuild iniramfs I've copied old file in .safe and now I'm tring to boot with this .safe by editing menù but my system won't boot
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1504 [14:07:57] <davegarath> It has failed dependency and I'm in emergency mode
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1507 [14:08:46] <davegarath> journalctl say to me that Unit dev-mapper-mmcblk0p3_crypt.device has failed but / is right mounted
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1510 [14:10:50] <davegarath> any idea how to solve dependency and boot default by stestemctl ?
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1515 [14:13:35] <davegarath> I can't mount boot device in /boot but I can mount it in /mnt
1516 [14:14:11] <davegarath> and I can't mount swap too. But swap device is available ....
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1521 [14:19:13] <BanHammor> are you sure that / is not initramfs?
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1525 [14:20:07] <davegarath> BanHammor, How to check that ?
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1530 [14:20:55] <davegarath> mount command say to me / is from right device
1531 [14:21:33] <davegarath> the right LV after decrypt PV
1532 [14:21:52] <BanHammor> then it's not initramfs
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1558 [14:35:07] <rant> does it matter / shoould a device be unmounted when I cp debian.iso /dev/sdd ?
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1562 [14:37:16] * rant retracts his question and just unmounts it anyhow. (new thumbdrive, was preformatted and automounted)
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1625 [15:03:35] <davegarath> I "found" the problem. Luclky I has a oldest iniramfs copy and with this the system is right started up. I solved mofifying crypttab following this : replaced-url
1626 [15:03:53] <davegarath> thank you to Jan Vales :)
1627 [15:03:55] <alex_rus> really it doesnt
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1645 [15:13:15] <noodlepie> Hiya guys!
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1692 [15:42:06] <Neel> dd if=./firmware-8.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdc1
1693 [15:42:12] <Neel> is this a right command?
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1695 [15:42:33] <Neel> /w 3
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1698 [15:42:37] <BCMM> Neel: you're writing a debian install image to usb, right?
1699 [15:42:44] <Neel> yes
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1702 [15:42:58] <Neel> i tried tht but the usb doesnt boot up
1703 [15:43:23] <BCMM> Neel: yeah, you're writing the install image to a partition on the USB stick
1704 [15:43:26] <Neel> i tried removing the sdc1 to sdc and i get an iso filesytstem
1705 [15:43:39] <BCMM> Neel: yes, that's correct
1706 [15:43:40] <Neel> so that command should work?
1707 [15:43:50] <Neel> dd if=./firmware-8.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdc1 this one?
1708 [15:43:54] <themill> no
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1710 [15:44:10] <BCMM> Neel: you should use of=/dev/sdc to write the image to the start of the usb stick, destroying existing partitions
1711 [15:44:11] <Neel> ?
1712 [15:44:22] <Neel> ok
1713 [15:44:30] <BCMM> Neel: (also, you should only do that if /dev/sdc is *definitely* your USB stick, and not for example a hard drive with contents you care about)
1714 [15:44:44] <BCMM> Neel: (and if you're happy to lose any existing data on the usb stick)
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1716 [15:45:12] <Neel> ok
1717 [15:45:54] <BCMM> Neel: getting an ISO filesystem on the usb stick is the expected outcome here. debian uses a hybrid iso system to allow the ISO to boot from USB as well as from a real CD-ROM
1718 [15:45:58] <Neel> but when i try of=/dev/sdc the usb doesnt boot up
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1720 [15:46:07] <Neel> ok
1721 [15:46:16] <BCMM> Neel: then it's possible your computer is not configured for USB booting
1722 [15:46:32] <BCMM> (or that it has secure boot enabled)
1723 [15:46:39] <Neel> ill see
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1741 [15:57:17] <Somelauw> I was updating my Debian (testing) and now it wants me to configure SSDP. Can I somehow skip over that step, I don't know what to answer to the question what interface to listen to for UPnP queries.
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1743 [15:57:40] <abrotman> just answer it, and then go bakc and disable it after install
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1745 [16:00:13] <Somelauw> I don't know what they're asking
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1749 [16:03:11] <abrotman> Somelauw: just hit enter, then disable it
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1751 [16:03:37] <abrotman> it's a daemon, asking which IPs to listen to connections from .. 0.0.0.0 is the default, which means all IPs ..
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1770 [16:15:10] <JPHook> hello
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1773 [16:16:22] <JPHook> I need some help, maybe I am missing a step. I have a RAID 5 Array with 6 Disks. One failed and I replaced it. Rebuild is complete, raid sais "active" and everything just works fine.
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1775 [16:16:31] <JPHook> After a Reboot, the new disk is gone, raid array is inactive and I have to do a COMPLETE rebuild again.
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1779 [16:17:41] <JPHook> I removed the old faulty disk with mdadm --manage /dev/md0 -r /dev/sde, and added the new disk with "-a /dev/sde" after replacing the disk and made sure the new disk is also sde.
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1805 [16:28:53] <Darkclaw> I am trying to install debian in a VMWare. It says installation step fields. the fail step is: select and install software
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1847 [16:50:07] <Logg> Darkclaw, you can use the spacebar to select items, and the enter key to continue
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1855 [16:54:13] <Darkclaw> I am trying it again this time with the i386 version
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1858 [16:57:16] <Darkclaw> it's at the part where it says select and install software. it's going through installing them at some point it failed last time. maybe this time it will work
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1863 [17:01:01] <kazdax> it happened to me too darkclaw
1864 [17:01:06] <kazdax> make sure your ISO is intact
1865 [17:01:15] <kazdax> and also try another time ..it happned to me to at the same step
1866 [17:01:23] <kazdax> but i was installing on bare metal
1867 [17:01:40] <kazdax> try to check sure the ISO is intact and also try another time
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1869 [17:01:51] <Darkclaw> a couple things I did differently. vmware said there's something I need to update/install for linux. I did that and also I am installing the i386 version instead of amd64
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1871 [17:01:57] <Darkclaw> hoping with those two changes, I'll be set
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1876 [17:02:25] <kazdax> i dark claw are you using it as a exploitable system to learn hacking :)
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1880 [17:02:49] <kazdax> no you should have retried doing it again ..with all the same settings
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1883 [17:03:04] <kazdax> because the exact same thing happened to me ..so its probably normal for it to fail at that step
1884 [17:03:16] <kazdax> i re did the whole installation step as it was previously and it worked the secound time
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1886 [17:04:12] <kazdax> also do an MD5 hash test to make sure the ISO downloaded properly
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2026 [18:18:47] <zeffy> anyone using dvwa? im stuck with smth
2027 [18:19:45] <zeffy> did dvwa work with php7 ?
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2050 [18:34:56] <edju> running jessie. when printer stopped working, I installed hplip 3.16.11 from backports. for various reasons, I purged it and tried to reinstall 3.14.6-1+deb8u1. now I get "Depends: libhpmud0 (= 3.14.6-1+deb8u1) but 3.16.11+repack0-1~bpo8+1 is to be installed" and more. Any pointers, advice, solutions appresiated.
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2055 [18:36:20] <Logg> try cups edju
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2058 [18:37:16] <Logg> edju, replaced-url
2059 [18:37:17] <petn-randall> zeffy: Are you running Kali?
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2061 [18:38:17] <edju> Logg, you mean install the printer with cups? but I still need hplip, no?
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2067 [18:39:46] <zeffy> parrot
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2071 [18:41:29] <vvor> Anyone using Radicale caldav in production?
2072 [18:41:41] <Logg> don't know, haven't had the displeasure of dealing with hplip. But you can solve your package problem by getting rid of the package libhpmud0. It's still from backports, so the stable version you're trying to install won't work with in.
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2075 [18:42:44] <OS-38194> hi
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2077 [18:43:08] <OS-38194> just testing my oscp irc channel never used irc before
2078 [18:43:23] <OS-38194> bit of a n00b
2079 [18:43:46] <Logg> enjoy your stay, but this channel is not for general discussion. it's for debian support questions & answers OS-38194
2080 [18:43:50] <OS-38194> just preping my vm for the lab work
2081 [18:43:59] <OS-38194> ah k
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2083 [18:44:09] <OS-38194> thought this was the oSCP channel
2084 [18:44:14] <OS-38194> laters
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2087 [18:44:20] <Logg> you can try #debian-offtopic
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2153 [19:08:56] <hk238> hi I have just installed Debian and I'm trying to setup audio (it's not working) I have asus xonar soundcard and I'm wondering what do I have to do.. Anyone know the solution?
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2160 [19:14:58] <petn-randall> zeffy: Try the parrot channel then, anything other than Debian support is offtopic in here.
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2162 [19:15:01] <petn-randall> !parrot
2163 [19:15:02] <dpkg> Parrot OS (replaced-url
2164 [19:15:05] <petn-randall> !based on
2165 [19:15:05] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare replaced-url
2166 [19:15:08] <petn-randall> zeffy: ^^^
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2175 [19:19:42] <zeffy> petn-randall, i fixed :D
2176 [19:19:51] <Azrael_-> hi
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2180 [19:22:19] <petn-randall> zeffy: Yeah, by crossposting in the wrong channel. :(
2181 [19:23:23] <zeffy> im not crossposting on oftc
2182 [19:23:27] <zeffy> i did in freenode , true
2183 [19:24:07] <hk238> Oh well.. Sorry I can't remember the solution to this.. I think it was something to do with 'alsamixer'? :o
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2186 [19:25:13] <mtn> hk238: how about pavucontrol? tried using it?
2187 [19:25:41] <hk238> that sounds familiar thanks I'll try that
2188 [19:26:41] <Azrael_-> i try to recompile the kernel within a vm but whenever i try it, the resulting kernel won't boot. last try was compiling 4.15 with the config of config-4.15.0-3-amd64 which resulted in linux-image-4.15.17 and during boot i got this error: kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) can you give me a hint how to solve this?
2189 [19:26:46] <hk238> hm it's looking better there's an audio stream or something in pavucontrol
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2191 [19:27:36] <mtn> hk238: make sure to look at the output and config tabs, if needed
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2193 [19:28:23] <hk238> yeah I think the solution is probably changing something here
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2199 [19:31:13] <mvaenskae-laptop> cheers, trying to make debian's installer work in an already partitioned environment with luks and lvm seems a bit difficult
2200 [19:31:24] <hk238> problem solved I had to go to alsamixer and change 'analog output'
2201 [19:31:27] <hk238> thanks for help
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2203 [19:31:50] <mvaenskae-laptop> can someone in here aid in getting through the step of correctly getting cryptsetup and lvm loaded so that i can continue the manual path on the partitioning setup?
2204 [19:32:39] <mvaenskae-laptop> ah, fixed it
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2207 [19:33:19] <mvaenskae-laptop> depmod -a i overlooked after fetching from somewhere the cryptsetup and lvm components into the live medium (using anna-install)
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2214 [19:43:11] <rant> what sort of graphical and very easy to use dvd ripping software is in stretch?
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2227 [19:50:22] <stefanie_> ehy guys! i have a question
2228 [19:50:39] <mtn> just ask
2229 [19:50:40] <stefanie_> can i change the default directory to open when opening bash?
2230 [19:50:58] <stefanie_> like instead of /home/USERDIR something else like /media/usb_something
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2239 [19:55:40] <rant> i am tryin to install stretch on a thin client and grub install failed console says warning core.img is unusually large and error btrfs doesnt support blocklists not sure what either of those mean
2240 [19:55:54] <Azrael_-> if i compile my own kernel, how can i build the all the modules into a package to install them?
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2245 [19:57:34] <rant> i suppose i could retry with ext4 if its the btrfs thats the problem i only used it cause the m2 ssd was already btrfs
2246 [19:58:57] <bites> stefanie_: just create a bash alias for switching to that directory. alias gg='cd /media/whatever' and put it in ~/.bash_aliases
2247 [19:58:58] <nkuttler> Azrael_-: package?
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2251 [20:00:19] <Azrael_-> nkuttler: i build my kernel-package "make -j4 bindeb-pkg" but when i install the resulting kernel-package it seems to miss all kernel-modules. now i try to find out how to compile/package/install all of them
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2255 [20:01:38] <nkuttler> !kernel handbook
2256 [20:01:38] <dpkg> The Debian Linux Kernel Handbook replaced-url
2257 [20:01:44] * rant shrugs and retries with ext4
2258 [20:01:46] <nkuttler> Azrael_-: should be covered there i guess
2259 [20:01:51] <nkuttler> rant: good choice
2260 [20:02:10] <Azrael_-> nkuttler: thanks, didn't see this yet. reading
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2262 [20:02:58] <rant> nkuttler i dont trust newly supported fs usually just thought sint the hp thinpro used btrfs and debian supports it now id try it.. heh.. but doesnt seem to work
2263 [20:03:37] <nkuttler> rant: i use btrfs at home on two disks without problems, but i've seen enough in production..
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2267 [20:04:48] <rant> yeah i been usin ext4 awhile now and seems as dependable and well supported as ext2/3 was so guess might as well stick with it
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2271 [20:06:21] <rant> idk what those errors meant though seemed odd
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2274 [20:07:29] <rant> grub succeeded with ext4 on rootfs.. now i just gotta spend another 20min or so installin the desktop again..
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2279 [20:09:06] <rant> damn that booted in like 1 second
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2281 [20:10:51] <rant> never seen a machine boot si fast
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2283 [20:11:24] <rant> my damn tv dont even come on that fast
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2289 [20:12:21] <maxcell_> Buster has like a backport repository/
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2291 [20:13:01] <maxcell_> buster have a backport repository/
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2293 [20:14:10] <rant> there is not really a need for backports in a testig branch that recieves sid packages in days.. itll have backports when its stable
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2295 [20:14:46] <maxcell_> rant, i just want a newer nvidia driver to test it out because i'm getting Tearing with 390 driver
2296 [20:14:53] <maxcell_> On Debian and on Ubuntu as well
2297 [20:15:07] <maxcell_> and i can't get rid of that with "ForceFullCompositePipeline" command
2298 [20:15:14] <maxcell_> strange..
2299 [20:15:24] <maxcell_> this command always worked for me
2300 [20:15:31] <rant> ,v nvidia-driver
2301 [20:15:32] <judd> Package: nvidia-driver on amd64 -- wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.102-1~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.102-1; stretch/non-free: 375.82-1~deb9u1; jessie-backports/non-free: 384.111-4~deb9u1~bpo8+1; stretch-proposed-updates/non-free: 384.111-4~deb9u1; stretch-backports/non-free: 390.48-2~bpo9+1; buster/non-free: 390.48-3; sid/non-free: 390.48-3
2302 [20:15:43] <maxcell_> can i install 375/
2303 [20:15:47] <maxcell_> on buster
2304 [20:16:07] <rant> the buster and sid have same version so a backport isnt possible
2305 [20:16:15] <maxcell_> true
2306 [20:16:26] <maxcell_> but can i install the stretch driver/
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2308 [20:16:45] <maxcell_> downgrade it
2309 [20:16:53] <rant> if a newer version exists youd have to get it upstream
2310 [20:17:50] <rant> why arent you running stable if you want your system to work and be supported here?
2311 [20:18:13] <rant> you realize we dont support testing/unstable here right?
2312 [20:18:29] <maxcell_> i need a desktop and i'm looking for newer app packages
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2314 [20:18:40] <maxcell_> buster is pretty up to date
2315 [20:19:04] <rant> thats what backports are for
2316 [20:19:04] <maxcell_> not really seeking support i only ask and apt-get question
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2318 [20:19:25] <maxcell_> you mean i can install like new kde/libreoffice with backports on stretch/
2319 [20:19:43] <rant> ,v libreoffice
2320 [20:19:44] <judd> Package: libreoffice on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0+deb7u11; wheezy-backports: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u7~bpo70+1; jessie: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u9; jessie-proposed-updates: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u11; jessie-security: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u11; jessie-backports: 1:5.2.7-1+deb9u2~bpo8+1; stretch: 1:5.2.7-1+deb9u3; stretch-proposed-updates: 1:5.2.7-1+deb9u4; stretch-security:
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2322 [20:19:45] <judd> 1:5.2.7-1+deb9u4; stretch-backports: 1:6.0.2-1~bpo9+1; buster: 1:6.0.2-1+b1; sid: 1:6.0.4~rc1-4
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2324 [20:19:54] <maxcell_> wow
2325 [20:20:19] <maxcell_> i never used backports repo in my life i don't know how to manage that properly but
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2327 [20:20:30] <maxcell_> i think that's the only way
2328 [20:20:34] <rant> yoy should akwats use stable and let us try help you work ariubd issues first
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2332 [20:21:19] <rant> rather thsn testing our other branches without experience and expecting them to perform as stable
2333 [20:22:10] <maxcell_> dude i've always used testing
2334 [20:22:25] <maxcell_> only problem is nvidia tearing on 390
2335 [20:22:31] <maxcell_> in my hardware
2336 [20:22:48] <maxcell_> other people have fix it with a command
2337 [20:22:53] <maxcell_> like i used to
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2341 [20:23:35] <rant> well thats fine but if you do it and dont know how to report bugs, live with issues until fixed and get support for it in roper location you do yourself and debian injustice
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2343 [20:23:47] <rant> !debian-next
2344 [20:23:47] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
2345 [20:23:55] <rant> !bts
2346 [20:23:55] <dpkg> Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, replaced-url
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2350 [20:25:40] <rant> its there to be used but for testing purposes.. and you should know how to do so if you use it.. asking about it here before a bug report and going to debian-next shows you dont know how
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2352 [20:26:29] <rant> or you just wanna reap the benefits of it before its ready for normal use and we sadly cant help you with that here
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2354 [20:28:17] <maxcell_> reap the benefits wtf
2355 [20:28:59] <maxcell_> you should ask some dollars for the system so you don't get mad when people use it
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2403 [20:45:10] <mrrobot_> i get good speed while im running the same from virtualbox
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2461 [21:08:34] <rant> there are people doin that hoewever our priorities are sclearly otluned in thw Social Contract and Why Debian docs and include open, free, stable.. etc
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2474 [21:17:13] <cluelessperson> hey guys: this line in the debian preseed documentation isn't working
2475 [21:17:14] <cluelessperson> echo preseed.cfg | cpio -H newc -o -A -F isofiles/install.386/initrd
2476 [21:17:33] <cluelessperson> I'm not sure what type of archive initrd here is, so I'm not sure how to add this file to it
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2484 [21:20:00] <cluelessperson> looks like cpio newc format
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2506 [21:29:21] <cluelessperson> this cpio command is garbage
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2508 [21:30:05] <bizhat> i am using debian 9, none of my post-up commands in interfaces get executed, any idea ? replaced-url
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2520 [21:36:07] <Logg> your netmask is weird bizhat
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2529 [21:39:43] <bizhat> @Logg, yes, it is OVH, the provider need 255.255.255.255 netmask -> replaced-url
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2531 [21:40:01] <Li> why debian box is 1GB swap while there is more than 5.5GB of free RAM?
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2535 [21:41:10] <bizhat> @Logg i have similar config work on Ubuntu 16 and Debian 8 vms
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2540 [21:42:05] <nkuttler> Li: why not?
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2549 [21:45:51] <Li> nkuttler: why Yes?
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2560 [21:53:00] <dax> if stuff gets moved to swap because the RAM is needed for other things, it isn't automatically pulled back until it's needed again
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2566 [21:53:55] <dax> so considering that stuff that hasn't been touched in a while is prioritized when moving to swap in the first place, it's quite common for things to be sitting in there even if RAM isn't full
2567 [21:54:55] <dax> in short, as normal for 99% of people pondering swap, time spent thinking about it is time wasted
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2584 [22:04:40] <Li> dax: I'm one of the 1% that you're not considering and thank god for swapoff -a
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2594 [22:11:16] <dax> Li: excellent, it's not often we have datacenter people come in here for swap help :)
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2598 [22:11:53] <dax> or perhaps embedded? bit of a dearth of them too, though
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2601 [22:12:49] <alive876> hi guys, can I and how do i change the install directory using gdebi? I want to install to en external ssd thanks
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2614 [22:20:46] <mvaenskae-laptop> hm, how can i disable the use of nvidia as my primary gpu and use the intel igpu (desktop computer, i want to use the nvidia card for plain tensorflow related ops)
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2629 [22:26:35] <esr1> Just upgraded to 18.04 and can't find the session chooser in gdm3. Where is it hiding?
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2643 [22:33:19] <jim> hi... anyone recognize this message: Background update loop checking for update. . .
2644 [22:33:28] <somiaj> esr1: this is a debian channel, not #ubuntu
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2646 [22:33:44] <D4rkn3S> exit
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2649 [22:34:40] <esr1> somiaj: Sorry, only half awake I guess. Will ask there.
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2651 [22:36:38] <D4rkn3S> hi all
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2653 [22:38:15] <D4rkn3S> i have problem after update system and full upgrade, right mouse click not work, can anyone help to resolv this problem?
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2655 [22:38:55] <somiaj> you need to be more detailed, such as what desktop/wm/program you are using, and what you are expecting right click to achieve.
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2660 [22:39:21] <D4rkn3S> i use it main system
2661 [22:39:30] <D4rkn3S> Dell inspiron 15 5000 leptop
2662 [22:39:44] <D4rkn3S> Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz processor
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2668 [22:42:44] <D4rkn3S> any idea?
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2674 [22:44:57] <mindcrimes> hi I'm running debian stretch and this app im using requires libssl1.0.0
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2676 [22:45:02] <mindcrimes> how do I install it?
2677 [22:45:13] <mindcrimes> libssl.so.1.0.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
2678 [22:45:32] <somiaj> stretch has a libssl1.0.0 libary you can install, but sometimes apps want the version from jessie
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2682 [22:46:46] <somiaj> libssl1.0.2 will work in some cases, install that, manually make the link from libssl1.0.0. You can also install the libary form jessie, it will install and work in streth
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2684 [22:47:30] <mindcrimes> where would I find libssl1.0.2's files?
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2687 [22:47:44] <somiaj> the lib dir, like /usr/lib
2688 [22:47:51] <somiaj> dpkg -L packagename will list installed files
2689 [22:47:51] <dpkg> No packages found matching packagename will list installed files
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2694 [22:51:35] <mindcrimes> aargh
2695 [22:51:47] <mindcrimes> I did that but it still says
2696 [22:51:51] <mindcrimes> No such file or directory
2697 [22:52:25] <D4rkn3S> where can i ask about my problem?
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2707 [22:58:38] <mindcrimes> ok I think I found the problem
2708 [23:00:02] <mindcrimes> but now it wants libc6 (>= 2.7).
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2768 [23:37:12] <zzUL> Hi, why my system create multiple files recently-used.xbel? I have various recently-used.xbel.XXXXXX files.
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2773 [23:38:54] <zzUL> Hi, why my system create multiples files recently-used.xbel? I have various recently-used.xbel.XXXXXX files.
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2776 [23:40:33] <zzUL> Hi, why my system create multiple files recently-used.xbel? I have various recently-used.xbel.XXXXXX files.
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2780 [23:41:14] <zzUL> Hi, why my system create multiple files recently-used.xbel? I have various recently-used.xbel.XXXXXX files.
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2783 [23:43:39] <hypn0> did you click on them zzUL ? what came up
2784 [23:45:10] <zzUL> The recently-used.xbel file is storage on ~/.local/share.
2785 [23:46:23] <zzUL> hypn0: this file save a list of recently documents
2786 [23:46:39] <jordanm> "It is also used by Nautilus and gedit of the GNOME desktop environment."
2787 [23:46:40] <hypn0> oh, I only got 1 file
2788 [23:46:44] <jordanm> - wikipedia
2789 [23:47:03] <zzUL> yes, the normal is that
2790 [23:47:53] <zzUL> i have multiple files, example: recently-used.xbel.NU83HZ
2791 [23:48:26] <zzUL> some recently-used.xbel.XXXXXX ---> XXXXXX are alphanumeric pattern
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2794 [23:49:45] <hypn0> what did you install?
2795 [23:50:36] <zzUL> nothing special
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2797 [23:51:00] <zzUL> hypn0: now i am on debian 9 mate fresh install
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2799 [23:52:21] <zzUL> hypn0: what's the reason this behaviour?
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2801 [23:52:26] <hypn0> replaced-url
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2806 [23:53:47] <zzUL> hypn0: oh, thanks. But i don't want prevent created this file
2807 [23:54:15] <zzUL> because i need use recently files on my workflow
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2810 [23:54:41] <hypn0> you want to know why?
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2813 [23:55:04] <hypn0> they are created?
2814 [23:55:34] <zzUL> nop
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2819 [23:56:30] <zzUL> when i delete the recently-used.xbel, this file auto created
2820 [23:56:48] <zzUL> but that is the normal behavior
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2822 [23:57:15] <zzUL> the weird situation is the other files
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