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9[00:03:56] <wewlad> hello
10[00:04:12] <wewlad> can I safely just change UID of a user in /etc/group?
11[00:04:12] <Tenkawa> hi
12[00:04:17] <Tenkawa> no
13[00:04:21] <wewlad> I need nginx user to be uid 82, not 101
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15[00:04:31] <Tenkawa> you should use usermod
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17[00:04:58] <zodd> wewlad, why would you want to do that?
18[00:05:09] <Tenkawa> that too
19[00:05:54] <wewlad> zodd: I use docker containers and I need to share a mount between nginx (that has nginx[101] user) and nextcloud+wordpress containers, that have replaced-url
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21[00:06:13] <wewlad> that way I could make use of user mod, not group mod
22[00:06:20] <Tenkawa> you can assign that at mount time
23[00:06:24] <Tenkawa> in the fstab
24[00:06:37] <wewlad> Tenkawa: what?
25[00:06:53] <wewlad> Tenkawa: they are 3 docker containers
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28[00:07:08] <treaki> hi there
29[00:07:13] <treaki> i guess ill ask here to
30[00:07:16] <Tenkawa> how are the shared storage shared?
31[00:07:17] <treaki> ive got a debootstrap
32[00:07:20] <treaki> that is not working
33[00:07:24] <wewlad> mounts are only from host to docker container
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35[00:07:35] <treaki> have a look at here: replaced-url
36[00:07:37] <wewlad> I just can mount 1 dir from host to multiple docker containers
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39[00:07:47] <treaki> replaced-url
40[00:07:55] <treaki> replaced-url
41[00:08:01] <treaki> replaced-url
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43[00:08:15] <Tenkawa> right.. on each container assign that mount to the uid you need it to be
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45[00:08:22] <treaki> thats the vm with the same live system running than on the system i am trying to install debian
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47[00:08:46] <treaki> the problem i have is that i cant boot debian directly because its some embedded box with windows ce
48[00:08:52] <treaki> without proper bios
49[00:09:33] <Tenkawa> wewlad: or is it the other way around?
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51[00:09:45] <Tenkawa> (i'm getting really sleepy)
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53[00:10:24] <Tenkawa> mornings are my time
54[00:10:26] <Tenkawa> not nights
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56[00:10:46] <treaki> debootstrap just stops without any hint on whats the problem is...
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58[00:11:07] <Tenkawa> thats odd
59[00:11:11] <treaki> yea
60[00:11:15] <wewlad> Tenkawa: ids are all shared
61[00:11:17] <treaki> any idea how to workaround that
62[00:11:35] <treaki> Tenkawa, which time zone r u?
63[00:11:42] <wewlad> Tenkawa: if I make owner of that dir a user with uid 82 - all containers and host will see that dir's owner as uid 82
64[00:11:44] <treaki> im cest
65[00:11:58] <treaki> 00:11 clock right now
66[00:12:02] <wewlad> that's why I want to change nginx user's uid in nginx container so it'd match replaced-url
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74[00:17:15] <lavinho> msg NickServ identify carangueijo31
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77[00:17:44] <jkemppainen_> lavinho: /msg nickserv help set password
78[00:17:45] <treaki> lavinho, better change your password fast
79[00:17:49] <jkemppainen_> lavinho: please change your password right now
80[00:17:56] <lavinho> ok
81[00:18:00] <treaki> hope youve got a verified mail address so you can reclaim your account
82[00:18:14] <jkemppainen_> (and next time, use NickServ's PM tab or the server tab to identify)
83[00:18:38] <treaki> and do it fast ;) because password goes over mail address by freenode accounting
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85[00:19:13] <treaki> so anyone who knows the password can change the mail address without confirmation mail requiered to old mail adress
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87[00:20:13] <at0m> better to identify using sasl, or by lack thereof, not in a window where so many users can read it..
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95[00:22:04] <jalcine> I wonder if they recovered their account
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98[00:23:12] <at0m> lesson learned eh
99[00:23:14] <thread_> Uhm, all my bootstrapping efforts lead to a missing Release file
100[00:23:41] <treaki> fixed it using --extractor=ar
101[00:23:46] <treaki> thanks for all your help
102[00:23:59] <thread_> thought i was doing something wrong, untill i tried linux-deploy, which has the same issue
103[00:24:37] <treaki> now its installing the base system ;)
104[00:25:31] <thread_> im back to i must be doing something wrong...
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110[00:28:36] <thread_> finally, aarch64 debootstrapped ;> firewall issue, root apps needed access ..
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130[00:39:05] <user090909> Hey. PCManFM error -> 1520677526741: libmtp error: Could not get file from device. gmsnet2.jpg: libmtp error: Could not get file from device.
131[00:39:32] <user090909> Should I install gmtp or libmtp-dev mtp-tools libgusb2 libusb-dev
132[00:39:49] <user090909> ?*
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134[00:41:02] <thread_> user090909: replaced-url
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189[01:17:58] <awal1> how can i get all the prompts in plain text format like when you are asked to type Y/I for accept new maintainer config files? I want to avoid blue pronts bcoz of history concerns, almost when in a vt (tty)
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191[01:18:56] <awal1> not only needrestart prompts, but all prompts
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206[01:27:39] <awal1> can you copy links in 'guake' without selecting?
207[01:27:53] <awal1> url links ^
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210[01:30:28] <awal1> I am trying to find if there is a regression since the upgrade to gtk3
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234[01:45:23] <black_13> how do I mount a windows share but not as root using cifs
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303[02:19:30] <japh> see replaced-url
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316[02:28:44] <asterismo_l> i'm using LXDE desktop, and after screen locks in xscreensaver, i want to be able to login as a new user but the New Login button does nothing... how can i fix the new login?
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360[03:04:01] <memo1> hi friend, when creating a serviced service, i can you at the end of the exectute the &?
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362[03:04:15] <memo1> hi friend, when creating a serviced service, i can use at the end of the exectute the &?
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370[03:06:48] <debron> Hello
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373[03:08:14] <debron> I am trying to install adobe air 2.6 from the bin package they have in their website, and fails because missing dependency: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0. Cant find any similar package in debian 9 stretch 64 bits. Any idea on how to meet the dependency?
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399[03:16:15] <japh> replaced-url
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414[03:21:51] <debron> ehm dont know what heppened to me, thanks japh
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422[03:23:26] <debron> japh: I think adobeair wants the 32 arch libraries version or something, because had it installed and still asking for it
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427[03:26:23] <japh> oh sorry
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430[03:30:01] <debron> no problem
431[03:30:12] <debron> im trying , adding the multiarch to dpkg
432[03:30:21] <debron> but each package asks for more dependences
433[03:30:35] <debron> and i tried -f option in apt-get install... but wont do it
434[03:30:37] <debron> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
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448[03:38:16] <srruby> I've got an old Thinkpad X31 (Pentium M 1.7 GHz) 2GB RAM running Debian Jessie. Should I upgrade to stretch ? Thanks.
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464[03:51:42] <debron> is this a really bad idea? sudo apt-purge *:i386
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466[03:51:54] <debron> having a 64 bit version of stretch ofc
467[03:52:14] <debron> added i386 arch to install adobe air, but i want everything back how it was ...
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470[03:53:28] <debron> sudo apt-get purge *:i386 <-- this better
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607[05:14:32] <jack3> Hello. Using Debian 9. default shell is set to bash in /etc/default/useradd . But when using useradd, fails. Default shell for newly created users is not bash. (worked fine on Debian 8 jessie ... same scripts) Is there a trick to it, with Debian 9 ?
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609[05:16:34] <blaztek> jack3: what’s the default shell for newly created users?
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611[05:17:50] <jack3> blaztek : in /etc/default/useradd is like this now:
612[05:17:51] <jack3> ###SHELL=/bin/sh
613[05:17:52] <jack3> SHELL=/bin/bash
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615[05:18:37] <jack3> I am not a linux guru... I just get by. I hope that answered your question. If not, please direct me.
616[05:19:40] <jim> let me hook up my laptop power
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623[05:21:27] <blaztek> jack3: okay but when you actually create the user, what is the shell they have?
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625[05:22:01] <jack3> I wacked the last test user. I think it was sh. want me to make one and check passwd file, real quick?
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627[05:22:55] <jack3> blaztek : deleteme:x:1017:1017::/home/deleteme:
628[05:23:06] <blaztek> I see what you mean
629[05:23:20] <jack3> from what I've said, or your own tests?
630[05:23:33] <jim> you're using useradd? could you show the whole commandline?
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632[05:23:43] <jack3> jim: from script? yes. brb with it
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634[05:24:09] <jack3> jim : useradd -m $username
635[05:24:29] <jack3> jim : for what it is worth: works fine, with debian 8
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637[05:24:47] <jim> ok. what woud you like to accomplish with the new user?
638[05:25:22] <jack3> create user. create home/ add files from skel, like .bashrc and set to bash as default shell
639[05:25:24] <blaztek> jack3: both
640[05:25:24] <jim> -m means "create the home dir"
641[05:25:33] <blaztek> jack3: same for me
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643[05:25:40] <jack3> the stuff with .bashrc (adding files, making home/ works fine)
644[05:26:13] <jim> ok do you get a home dir with the /etc/skel files copied into it?
645[05:26:16] <jack3> blaztek: now I'm wondering if this is a known hiccup in 9 ?
646[05:26:21] <jack3> jim: yes
647[05:26:45] <jack3> jim : can I work around it, but using (tryign to remember what I just read) -s switch?
648[05:26:53] <jack3> by*
649[05:27:04] <blaztek> jack3: useradd -s /bin/bash username
650[05:27:14] <jack3> blaztek: you've tried that?
651[05:27:20] <blaztek> jack3: yes
652[05:27:32] <jack3> blaztek: tried it with -m on same command line, too?
653[05:27:43] <jim> ok.... so, so far so good :) did you want the user to be able to do anything else?
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655[05:28:07] <jack3> jim : uhmmm... not off the top of my head. Like what?
656[05:28:16] <blaztek> jack3: according to the man page, no -s option = value in /etc/default/useradd
657[05:28:38] <jack3> blaztek: that's how I read it too, so that's the file I edited.
658[05:28:51] <jim> it looks like you're not setting its shell, did you want the new user to log in?
659[05:28:54] <jack3> blaztek: and ... it doesn't seem to work
660[05:29:22] <jack3> jim : shell is set in /etc/default/useradd and it doesn't seem to be having an effect as expected
661[05:29:25] <blaztek> jack3: I personally agree
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663[05:29:49] <jack3> what do you mean by: "did you want the new user to log in?" . we set a temp pw.. he logs in whenever he wants...
664[05:30:15] <jack3> blaztek: have you tried both -s and -m on same command line? ... just curious if that is possible, and if it worked.
665[05:31:02] <jim> so you have a new user... can you log in as that user yet? (but wait, something tells me we're at a different level here,,, are you writing a script that's like adduser?)
666[05:31:55] <jack3> re-using a very short script from a debian 8 vps, which worked fine. now using it on a debian 9 vps, and not getting default shell set to bash
667[05:32:30] <jack3> can you log in as that user yet? <<< on tests, yes
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669[05:32:40] <jim> there are defaults, lets see...
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671[05:33:13] <blaztek> jack3: yes, they both work
672[05:33:33] <jack3> blaztek: please show the command line that you used, that worked.
673[05:33:47] <blaztek> Just a sec...
674[05:33:50] <jack3> thank you
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676[05:34:27] <jim> it looks like the -D option might include defaults
677[05:34:32] <jack3> if this works around it... ok. Then I'd still be curious as to whether or not this is a bug. But I'd be able to move on.
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679[05:35:08] <jack3> jim : but the man on both debian 8 and 9 looks the same to me. didn't need to use -D on debian 8
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682[05:35:11] <blaztek> useradd -m -s /bin/bash jack3
683[05:35:24] <jack3> blaztek: thought so, but wanted to be sure. tnx
684[05:35:38] <blaztek> jack3: no problem
685[05:35:40] <jack3> blaztek: thanks for testing too. It is nice to know I'm not nuts.
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688[05:37:05] <jim> try useradd -D (with no other params)
689[05:37:28] <jack3> not even username of new user??
690[05:37:35] <jim> right
691[05:37:36] <jack3> what will that do?
692[05:37:42] <jim> display defaults
693[05:37:45] <jack3> ok
694[05:37:45] <jack3> brb
695[05:38:24] <jack3> jim : 8 lines want to see just the pertinent one?
696[05:38:38] <jim> howbout this:
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698[05:38:55] <jim> useradd -D | nc termbin.com 9999
699[05:38:56] <jack3> I mean.. I'm not supposed to paste 8 lines here, right?
700[05:39:04] <jack3> what's that do?
701[05:39:25] <blaztek> jim: SHELL=/bin/bash
702[05:39:29] <blaztek> For me
703[05:39:30] <jack3> jim : anyway... this was in the 8 lines that came back: SHELL=/bin/bash
704[05:39:39] <jack3> blaztek: me too. tnx
705[05:39:45] <jim> yeah, better to pastebin (which is what " | nc termbin.com 9999" does)
706[05:39:53] <jack3> oh
707[05:40:02] <jack3> still want that?
708[05:40:11] <jim> sure :)
709[05:40:15] <jack3> ok
710[05:40:22] <jack3> and .. how do I view it, too?
711[05:40:28] <jim> it should return you a url
712[05:40:30] <jack3> sorry.. not familiar with things here
713[05:40:33] <jack3> ahh.. duh
714[05:40:34] <jack3> tnx
715[05:40:35] <jack3> brb
716[05:41:05] <jack3> jim : bash: nc: command not found
717[05:41:07] <jim> (possible fail: nc not installed, if so, apt install netcat)
718[05:41:23] <jack3> I'd prefer to not install stuff
719[05:41:23] <blaztek> jim: replaced-url
720[05:41:47] <blaztek> jack3: I did it
721[05:42:07] <jack3> blaztek: tnx. and without scrutiny, that looks to be exactly what I got, too
722[05:42:50] <blaztek> jack3: our defaults are the same
723[05:42:59] <jack3> blaztek: ok.
724[05:43:04] <blaztek> I only changed SHELL like you
725[05:43:10] <jack3> ok
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727[05:43:26] <jim> ok... and also to display it for yourself you could get rid of "| nc termbin.com 9999"
728[05:43:37] <blaztek> Yes
729[05:44:39] <jack3> jim : did that, the first time
730[05:44:46] <jim> if you do useradd -D (other options too) it will set the defaults you specify
731[05:44:53] <jack3> is it ok to post a url here, to ask a question about it?
732[05:45:01] <jack3> jim : did that, the first time
733[05:45:01] <jim> sure
734[05:45:15] <jim> got it :)
735[05:45:19] <blaztek> Jim I’ll try that
736[05:45:24] <jack3> replaced-url
737[05:45:51] <jack3> what do you all make of that page? baloney? or solid?
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740[05:46:26] <jim> or solid baliney?
741[05:46:51] <jack3> har
742[05:47:01] <jim> need to pause for a few mins
743[05:47:08] <jack3> how about this one? replaced-url
744[05:47:09] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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747[05:47:45] <jim> what file does the patch edit?
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750[05:47:58] <blaztek> judd: yes, that’s what’s happening
751[05:48:35] <blaztek> If I look in the passwd file
752[05:48:53] <jack3> jim : are you asking me?
753[05:48:59] <jim> judd, ar yue a bought?
754[05:49:04] <jack3> oh.. sorry
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759[05:50:58] <jim> no worries L:) I knew about judd :)
760[05:50:58] <jack3> the more I google, the more I'm getting the feeling that this is a known bug
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762[05:51:29] <jack3> if so.. ok. if I can work around it, by simply editing script, with command line that blaztek used.
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765[05:52:03] <jack3> blaztek: is that what you'd do?
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767[05:52:13] <blaztek> jim: shadow?
768[05:52:47] <jim> sec
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770[05:52:59] <blaztek> jack3: yes. Patching and compiling is tricky but
771[05:53:08] <blaztek> Let’s wait for Jim
772[05:53:19] <jack3> blaztek: and I'm just helping a friend. I don't want to get into that. :)
773[05:53:20] <jim> my /etc/default/useradd: replaced-url
774[05:53:25] <blaztek> He knows more
775[05:53:52] <jack3> jim: right
776[05:54:33] <jim> why not put -s /bin/bash into your script?
777[05:54:55] <jack3> jim : that's what I said, above, a minute ago. :)
778[05:55:01] <blaztek> jim: that’s exactly like mine before I added “ba”
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780[05:55:31] <jim> so, useradd -s /bin/bash -m $yourusernamevar
781[05:55:38] <jack3> jim : my /etc/default/useradd has these lines it in, now:
782[05:55:39] <jack3> ###SHELL=/bin/sh
783[05:55:39] <jack3> SHELL=/bin/bash
784[05:56:18] <jim> ok, try to add a user with your script
785[05:56:26] <jack3> I have
786[05:56:30] <jack3> that's why I came here
787[05:56:30] <jack3> :)
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789[05:57:02] <jim> did you change your /etc/default/useradd a few seconds ago
790[05:57:03] <jim> ?
791[05:57:07] <jack3> <blaztek> useradd -m -s /bin/bash jack3 vs. jim> so, useradd -s /bin/bash -m $yourusernamevar ? both work?
792[05:57:17] <jack3> <jim> did you change your /etc/default/useradd a few seconds ago << no
793[05:57:38] <blaztek> Jack yes
794[05:57:52] <blaztek> order doesn’t matter
795[05:57:52] <jack3> blaztek: sort of thought so.. just checking. tnx.
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797[05:58:08] <jim> ok, now try to add a user
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799[05:58:25] <jack3> jim : just did that a few min ago
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809[06:01:00] <jack3> ok?
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813[06:02:53] <jack3> jim: anything else for me?
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815[06:03:00] <jack3> blaztek: anything else for me?
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821[06:04:44] <blaztek> jack3: I was reading the bug report and
822[06:04:59] <jack3> did your eyes glaze over too?
823[06:05:00] <jack3> heh
824[06:05:14] <blaztek> Yes but
825[06:05:16] <jack3> I *think* it is saying that it is a known bug. What did you get out of it?
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828[06:05:39] <jack3> ( I hope we were reading the same page(s) )
829[06:05:40] <blaztek> I don’t think they pushed the fix yet
830[06:05:46] <blaztek> We are
831[06:05:46] <OS-37181> Hello!
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835[06:06:13] <jack3> well.. if it is a known bug, then I won't beat my head on the wall any more.. and will be happy with the work around command line that you tested for me.
836[06:06:29] <OS-37181> I could use some pointers on the LFI exercise...gaining code execution is no trouble, but generating a reverse shell seems much harder than it should be given that the target is Windows.
837[06:07:03] <OS-37181> Any php shell I try to submit in the guestbook ends up URL-encoded in the logs, so it won't execute.
838[06:07:47] <OS-37181> i was thinking maybe trying a powershell command but that would get URL encoded too. Any advice?
839[06:07:48] <blaztek> jack3: good to know
840[06:08:26] <jack3> blaztek: I'm going to try it, here in a minute. Want to try to watch here, in case jim comes back
841[06:09:01] <blaztek> jack3: yes, stretch is running 4.4 and it’s fixed in 4.5
842[06:09:16] <jack3> uhh.. 4.4 what? sorry..
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844[06:09:35] <blaztek> The version of passwd
845[06:09:49] <jack3> ok.
846[06:10:07] <jack3> so.. I'm not crazy, it's a bug, and time for me to move on. Right?
847[06:10:07] <jack3> :)
848[06:10:30] <OS-37181> Hello, testing...can you guys read this?
849[06:10:35] <blaztek> Both of us
850[06:10:37] <blaztek> Lol
851[06:10:45] <jack3> blaztek: heh
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853[06:10:58] <jack3> ugg
854[06:11:03] <jack3> was just about to ack him
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858[06:12:45] <jim> was called away a few minutes
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860[06:13:26] <jim> OS-37181 yep, works fine
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863[06:14:52] <jack3> jim : edited my script to this: useradd -s /bin/bash -m $username one quick test, and it works. new user got bash as default. :)
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866[06:15:19] <jack3> jim : blaztek blinked out of here, but he said that it is a bug in passwd 4.4
867[06:15:40] <jack3> jim : If I don't see blaztek again here soon, will you please pass along my "Thank you" to him?
868[06:15:51] <jack3> jim : and, Thank YOU, too. :)
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874[06:19:11] <jim> did I come bak?
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877[06:19:27] <jack3> jim: no, you are not here
878[06:19:31] <jack3> we can't see you, here
879[06:19:37] <jack3> <g>
880[06:20:01] <jack3> jim: did you see my 'thank you' posts, above? before you blinked out ?
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883[06:20:06] <jim> not here.... hmm, where am I,,,
884[06:20:07] <jack3> I hope so
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886[06:20:55] <jim> I'm in a hackerspace atm... there are little kids here making games out of arduino chips
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888[06:21:19] <jack3> jim: well.. Thank you for your time in looking into it with me
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890[06:21:28] <jim> welcome
891[06:21:32] <jack3> and when you see blaztek again, please tell him that I said Thanks too
892[06:21:43] <jim> ok :)
893[06:21:44] <jack3> I used your command line, and one quick test so far, and it works
894[06:21:54] <jack3> so I'll fly with that, and be happy
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896[06:21:58] <jack3> Thanks !
897[06:21:59] <jack3> :)
898[06:22:00] <jim> oh good :)
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900[06:22:21] <jack3> and now you know.. well, blaztek has info from somewhere, that it is a bug
901[06:22:59] <jim> I remember a much earlier debian where it didn't have this same {user,group}{add,mod,del}
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911[06:25:37] <jim> so the bug has a workaround
912[06:25:50] <jack3> used your command line. Yes
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916[06:26:21] <jack3> jim: old was : useradd -m $username and now is: useradd -s /bin/bash -m $username
917[06:26:32] <jack3> which worked (one quick test is all, so far)
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924[06:27:57] <jim> you can see how the defaults work together... looks like there are the defaults in /etc/default/useradd and there are the defaults in useradd -D
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928[06:28:50] <jack3> looks like there are the defaults in /etc/default/useradd << found some posts somewhere, where someone said that they'd tested, and that the whole file is ignored
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932[06:30:10] <jack3> jim : side question : for the future, is it ok to join this channel and just lurk?
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935[06:31:07] <jelly> yes it's okay to lurk
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941[06:33:48] <jack3> jelly: thanks. If I can rememeber to do it, I might learn something just by osmosis. :)
942[06:34:29] <jim> jack3, that should be fine (as jelly says)... also, there's a bot, alis that can assist you in fiding channels on this, the freenode irc net. to gt started with it, you can send alis a message: /msg alis help
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944[06:34:56] <jack3> alis << ,that's how I found this chan, this time. :)
945[06:34:56] <steinwayer> helloooo guyyyys
946[06:35:22] <jack3> steinwayer : Hello
947[06:35:23] <jim> hi
948[06:35:40] <steinwayer> hey guys, any of you experiencing firmware regulatory db error at boot with the latest firmware?
949[06:36:05] <jim> firmware for what hardware?
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953[06:36:50] <steinwayer> plaform regulatory.0L firmware: failed to load regulatory.db (-2)
954[06:37:10] <steinwayer> plaform regulatory.0: firmware: failed to load regulatory.db (-2)
955[06:37:11] <somiaj> not familar with that firmware? What version of debian is this?
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957[06:37:22] <jim> wireless nic? sound hardware? cpu?
958[06:37:56] <steinwayer> firmware bug: ioapic 2 has no mapping iommu, interrupt remapping will be disabled
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960[06:38:07] <steinwayer> (i guess that's what it's talking about)
961[06:38:37] <jack3> jim : it's late here. I'm away now. again, thank you very much. bye for now.
962[06:38:40] <steinwayer> also, looks like my mouse accelleration has gone, any idea on how can i enable it back again ??
963[06:39:00] <steinwayer> on Gnome 3 on Xorg
964[06:39:05] <somiaj> steinwayer: try to stick to one question at a time, and actually respond to the questions people ask. What hardware is this for? What kernel are you using? What version of debian are you running?
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968[06:39:21] <steinwayer> yup sorry somiaj
969[06:39:43] <steinwayer> so i am not sure which hardware that's why i posted the closest error message related to firmware that i have in boot
970[06:40:00] <somiaj> what version of debian are you running? What kernel?
971[06:40:35] <steinwayer> Linux Debian 4.15.0
972[06:40:42] <steinwayer> amd64
973[06:40:43] <somiaj> that is not a debian version.
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975[06:40:49] <somiaj> that is a kernel version.
976[06:41:03] <jim> I get the feeling this firmware is for something other than hardware... my only evidence is that I never saw this db message
977[06:41:45] <somiaj> jim: it is part of the wireless database, it should be built with the kernel, though I've seen others with the 4.15 kernel having similar issues in other oses, havn't found a solution though.
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979[06:42:04] <jim> oh ok
980[06:42:18] <steinwayer> uhm...
981[06:42:20] <steinwayer> yes infact
982[06:42:22] <steinwayer> i noticed that
983[06:42:22] <chan201_> what is a wireless database?
984[06:42:28] <steinwayer> the dkms driver doesn't work anymore
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987[06:42:35] <steinwayer> and i had to switch back to b43
988[06:42:50] <somiaj> chan201_: replaced-url
989[06:42:56] <steinwayer> (by dkms sorry i mean broadcom driver)
990[06:43:07] <somiaj> steinwayer: dkms driver? I still don't even know what version of debian you are running? What version of debian are you running?
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992[06:43:12] <chan201_> thankyou somialj
993[06:43:40] <steinwayer> Linux debian 4.15.0-kali2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.15.11-1kali1 (2018-03-21) x86_64 GNU/Linux
994[06:43:43] <somiaj> I'm not finding any debian bugs on this, but I find it hard to search the linux kernel bugs (to many)
995[06:43:46] <somiaj> steinwayer: that isn't even debian
996[06:43:49] <somiaj> !kali
997[06:43:49] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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1000[06:44:30] <somiaj> steinwayer: anyways, I've seen other distros have trouble with this in the 4.15 kernel. I would contact kali support, and check if this is a known bug against their kerenl. If you are fully running kali (and not mixing things) report a bug to them, it is ther ekernel.
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1002[06:44:42] <somiaj> as in seen, I got otehr hits ina google search.
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1004[06:45:07] <steinwayer> oh ok, yes cause researching the issue on google before bugging you guys showed me that other people from other distros complained as well
1005[06:45:11] <steinwayer> but no one found a solution to it :O
1006[06:45:56] <somiaj> wellt hen why did you come to debain, we don't make kali's kernels. Go report this issue tio Kali
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1008[06:46:39] <steinwayer> ok somiaj :D
1009[06:46:53] <jim> well,,, could you look at the output of lspci -nn | grep -i net
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1011[06:47:28] <steinwayer> 01:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme BCM57765 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe [14e4:16b4] (rev 10) 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Limited BCM4331 802.11a/b/g/n [14e4:4331] (rev 02)
1012[06:47:44] <somiaj> steinwayer: again, no need to give us more info, you are not in the right spot for a kali kernel.
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1014[06:48:00] <jim> if you get output from that, you should see the pciis, which look like" [1234:abcd]
1015[06:48:14] <somiaj> jim: I think this is more of a substytem and not attached to a nic, reading the linux link, seems this is part of some regularity standards that is needed to work with third party wireless drivers.
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1017[06:48:35] <somiaj> so I don't think it is the network card, it is a core issue in the wireless subsystem.
1018[06:48:53] <somiaj> ahh, looks like it is part of the cfg80211 driver
1019[06:48:59] <jim> when you talk to the kali people, tell them that pciid, they might be able to identify your deice
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1021[06:49:14] <steinwayer> uhm...
1022[06:49:19] <steinwayer> thanks for the advice jim! :)
1023[06:49:39] <steinwayer> anyway i wanted to thank you guys for what you do everyday
1024[06:49:51] <jim> do you get output from that command?
1025[06:50:04] <steinwayer> you are the biggest chunk of freedom we still have in this crazy IT world :)
1026[06:50:24] <steinwayer> jim yes, it was the output i posted before
1027[06:51:19] <jim> that looks like a wired eth card
1028[06:51:42] <steinwayer> there are multiple in the output
1029[06:51:45] <steinwayer> the wireless is the last one
1030[06:51:57] <somiaj> jim: looks like a combo, I see botha wired and a wifi there
1031[06:52:07] <jim> oh ok
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1033[06:52:27] <steinwayer> uhm, well maybe it pasted here, but it shows as two separate devices
1034[06:52:39] <jim> does a single driver support both halves?
1035[06:52:41] <steinwayer> sorry i meant the way it pasted here
1036[06:53:02] <steinwayer> uhm, not sure about that, but i don't think so
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1039[06:53:14] <steinwayer> running on a mid 2012 macbook pro, didn't have the chance to use yet the ethernet
1040[06:53:16] <steinwayer> port
1041[06:53:47] <steinwayer> but i can tell you that for example live distros would never see the wifi ( debian included) but they would see the ethernet port
1042[06:53:49] <jim> obviously you're welcome to try actual debian if you want to
1043[06:54:28] <steinwayer> long time Debian user :D i recently switched to Kali for some testing
1044[06:54:35] <jim> people here will be less grumpy if you do, and then subsequently ask about that
1045[06:54:40] <steinwayer> i run Debian as main os since 2002 :P
1046[06:56:30] <somiaj> yea, broadcom is the worst in my opinion with wifi drivers. They don't let people distribute the firmware, so you need to cut it out of a windows driver that you download from broadcom. Debian has scripts to do this, but you require an internet connection to do it.
1047[06:56:54] <somiaj> or you need to compile their third party driver (also requires an active internet connection to make it easy)
1048[06:57:14] <jim> so... have an eth cable :)
1049[06:57:16] <steinwayer> uhm, somiaj, before the kernel update screwed it all up, i used the Debian method to make the proprietary driver work on the OS and it was workingfine
1050[06:57:31] <somiaj> steinwayer: I still dno't see why you are continunue on here, this is a kali issue.
1051[06:57:34] <steinwayer> not that i have anything against the b43 driver, which works great, the only little issue it gives me is if i am on a public network it would randomly drop
1052[06:57:49] <jim> ok anyway I'm out for now
1053[06:58:05] <somiaj> and make sure you install the drivers as kali suggest, it may or may not be similar to debian for the third party driver.
1054[06:58:11] <steinwayer> oh i was just replying to your statement :O
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1056[06:58:23] <somiaj> I was just poitning out in general that broadcom is a pain, (:
1057[06:58:48] <steinwayer> ehehe :D
1058[06:58:54] <steinwayer> it is indeed :D
1059[06:59:58] <steinwayer> just out of curiosity somiaj, on which branch of debian do you usually run??
1060[07:00:06] <steinwayer> i am guessing as expert, you probably use unstable??
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1064[07:02:00] <somiaj> stable, it works good and I don't have to deal with things breaking on me.
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1067[07:03:25] <steinwayer> i bet it does! :D
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1069[07:03:35] <steinwayer> used it briefly in 2006 and i was very happy with it
1070[07:03:54] <steinwayer> after a while tho, the "latest software" monkey got me, and switched to unstable ahhaha
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1075[07:10:00] <steinwayer> i go to sleep now guys!! maybe tomorrow i ll just ditch Kali for good and reinstall Debian on my beloved laptop :D
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1082[07:15:10] <darxmurf> morning
1083[07:15:28] <somiaj> (:
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1090[07:23:14] <ziGuy> Hello, i've just installed the stable version and got 1 hour difference issue. while running timedatectrl i see that there is no DST option anymore, can anyone advise?
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1095[07:27:43] <somiaj> ziGuy: DST is set related to the timezone you chose. What time zone did you choose?
1096[07:27:50] <somiaj> (not all time zones participate in DST)
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1100[07:28:39] <ziGuy> The timezone is correct, verified wiyh zdump
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1105[07:30:23] <somiaj> what is the time zone?
1106[07:30:41] <ziGuy> Asia/Jerusalem
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1108[07:31:14] <somiaj> are you in Jerusalem, or is that just the closest city.
1109[07:31:44] <ziGuy> It's the closest, but it worked all the time like that
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1111[07:33:06] <ziGuy> while i'm playing with it, somehow it got the correct time but then it's changing back to 1 hour difference
1112[07:33:13] <ziGuy> not sure why and when
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1114[07:33:42] <somiaj> well according to wikipedia, that time zone ise UTC+2 and during DST UTC+3
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1117[07:33:56] <somiaj> ziGuy: do you have the pckage ntp installed?
1118[07:34:07] <ziGuy> yes and it's enable and running
1119[07:34:15] <ziGuy> i've got also tzdata installed
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1122[07:36:01] <somiaj> systemd also has its ownt time sync thing. I don't think tzdata would affect this.
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1124[07:36:31] <ziGuy> i disabled systemd time sync
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1127[07:37:35] <somiaj> well only thing I can think of is one of the time updates like ntp (or maybe systemd time-sync.target) is confused about the time zone.
1128[07:38:15] <somiaj> I do recall a recent update on the timezone data, are you fully upgraded with security updates?
1129[07:38:48] <somiaj> well you said you have tzdata installed, but there was a recent update of that form security it seems.
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1131[07:39:26] <ziGuy> yes, fully up to date. looks like some package is indeed confused, but how can i found the exact problematic setting?
1132[07:40:14] <ziGuy> is there any more alternative service apart ntp and systemd-timesync that can affect time?
1133[07:40:37] <somiaj> there are, but those are the only automatic ones I know of
1134[07:40:47] <somiaj> there is ntpdate, but really one shouldn't use that. One should use ntp or the systemd builtin
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1139[07:42:23] <ziGuy> so no more suggestions i guess?
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1141[07:44:28] <epiflux> are you dual booting windows?
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1143[07:46:39] <icarious> Is Debian's "Testing" branch covered by the debian-security team same as "Stable"?
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1147[07:48:02] <ziGuy> @epiflux, if ur msg was designated to me: no, but it's a vm under virtualbox
1148[07:48:24] <allizom> icarious: no, replaced-url
1149[07:48:54] <icarious> allizom: thanks
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1156[07:57:48] <somiaj> icarious: debian testing has the worst secrity in debian, It can take up to months for secirty fixes (or fixes in general) to make it into testing, though often it is only 10 days.
1157[07:58:27] <somiaj> ziGuy: think virtualbox could be trying to keep the clock synced with the host doing something strange?
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1161[07:59:41] <icarious> somiaj: The reason I asked it is because I am planning to make a comeback to Debian after years. I am presently using Gentoo, but I am not really satisfied at the handling of CVEs. Some of the Packages like the Kernel / Firefox is not being updated promptly
1162[07:59:56] <somiaj> ziGuy: check /etc/adjtime, do you ahve that set ot UTC or LOCAL?
1163[08:00:15] <icarious> somiaj: I know this is one infamous / controversial question. I will shoot. Is it possible to build packages using apt-build 100% from source? including their dependencies that is.
1164[08:00:16] <somiaj> icarious: if you care about security you will want to be running debian stable.
1165[08:00:42] <somiaj> icarious: possible yes, but now usable it is I don't know, and in many cases I don't think you get much out of compling your own packages.
1166[08:01:43] <somiaj> as in I don't know if there are lots of tools to automate this, or you will have to build your own package builds system for such at hing
1167[08:02:02] <icarious> well yes. I know that its pretty useless to compile it in Debian and just going with the binaries will be best
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1170[08:02:30] <icarious> I will take the deboostrap installation route
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1173[08:03:00] <somiaj> icarious: replaced-url
1174[08:03:17] <icarious> somiaj: thanks man
1175[08:03:35] <somiaj> icarious: I think the biggest thing one looses not building their packages from source is use flags, in most cases I don't think the preformance difference is that noticable.
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1179[08:04:15] <digitalpeer> has anybody actually figured out how to cross bootstrap armhf on x86_64 without root?
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1181[08:04:28] <ziGuy> etc/adjtime is set to UTC
1182[08:04:28] <icarious> somiaj: performance difference is not applicable these days. There is "some" if you add CPU Specific Instruction Flags. But almost negligible. YEs, its the USE Flags that I would miss.
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1184[08:04:36] <digitalpeer> so many attempts, yet so many failed attempts
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1186[08:04:44] <ziGuy> i think it's an issue with virtualbox
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1188[08:04:48] <icarious> somiaj: and..... openrc :P
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1193[08:05:06] <ziGuy> it's guest addon, i'm trying to understand how to disable this time sync
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1196[08:06:38] <somiaj> icarious: you might be able to get openrc in debian, though don't expect all packages to have scripts written for openrc by default.
1197[08:06:41] <somiaj> ,v openrc
1198[08:06:42] <judd> Package: openrc on amd64 -- jessie: 0.13.1-4; stretch: 0.23-1+b1; buster: 0.34-1; sid: 0.34-1
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1201[08:07:14] <icarious> Ah. I need to learn how to manage networking with systemd in Debian. I used this Arch made dialog based curses tool called "netctl" under Arch. But as i shifted to Gentoo+OpenRC it was just netifrc + wpa_supplicant + ifplugd
1202[08:07:18] <icarious> somiaj: I know.
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1206[08:07:34] <icarious> somiaj: where do packaging requests go?
1207[08:07:47] <icarious> I might request netctl for inclusion. Handy tool to manage network with systemd.
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1210[08:08:00] <somiaj> icarious: I would just use the debian default, /etc/network/interfaces file which scripts 'ifup' and 'ifdown' read and then send the commands to ip and various tools direclty.
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1214[08:08:22] <icarious> Ok I will check it out. I don't use nm bloat
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1217[08:08:34] <P_B> anyone got any experience getting fakeraid to work in debian?
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1220[08:08:41] <somiaj> icarious: are you sure that isn't already in debian? I know debian does support networkd, but it is turned of fby default, and if netctrl is part of ssystemd, I would imagine it is in debian already.
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1223[08:09:02] <somiaj> icarious: the interfaces file has been a debian standard for long time and isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
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1225[08:09:23] <somiaj> replaced-url
1226[08:09:49] <ziGuy> somiaj: I will search for a solution on vbox side. thank you very much for your efforts
1227[08:09:56] <ziGuy> have a great day
1228[08:10:07] <icarious> somiaj: "netctl" is a wrapper for networkd. And yes I checked the package database in all the branches. It was arch homegrown. Gentoo packaged it only recently. I will request it for inclusion. Has a nice curses interface to generate wireless profiles. and then netctl start <profilename>
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1230[08:10:55] <icarious> At this point I just want a Distro that is being stabilised throughly and uneventful for most of its version cycle.
1231[08:11:11] <somiaj> icarious: replaced-url
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1236[08:11:47] <icarious> somiaj: thanks. I will do that
1237[08:12:00] <somiaj> icarious: clarify what do you mean by stablized during its version cycel. By the time debain release a stable realse, the stabalization is done, after that it is a frozen system that gets security fixes and some grave bug fixes.
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1242[08:12:43] <icarious> somiaj: yes I know that. I meant a LTS / ESR distro that has a dedicated security and patching team.
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1245[08:13:14] <icarious> Like for Gentoo, it would be a package version jump. They avoid patches and stick to upstream. So its a bit messy at times. Packages are being held for "confirmation of stability" :S
1246[08:13:17] <somiaj> icarious: you may want to check out security-tracker.debian.org, you can at least know what CVE's debian considers important.
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1248[08:13:59] <icarious> somiaj: thanks again.
1249[08:14:02] <somiaj> yea, debian will usually try to backport fixes directly to stable versions. This is done by volunteers so is a little slower than say RedHat, but still they are active and get thigns out as soon as they are ready.
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1253[08:14:56] <icarious> somiaj: replaced-url
1254[08:14:57] <somiaj> debian does have some issues with this, first browsers just suck. Debian provides newer upstream versions as 'security fixes', and these happen fairly often, but may be a little slower than one would like (usually they group a bunch of CVE's into one update when it happens)
1255[08:15:16] <somiaj> the other is thigns like virtualbox and stuff debian cannot support has been moved out of debian stable (and then supplied via backports which doesn't get security)
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1257[08:15:32] <icarious> openwatcom license issue
1258[08:15:35] <icarious> I am aware.
1259[08:15:46] <somiaj> icarious: no, that is completely different. That is why virtualbox is in contrib.
1260[08:15:57] <somiaj> icarious: I was describing by virtualbox is not ins table at all (even contrib)
1261[08:16:03] <icarious> Oh wait. its not stable even?
1262[08:16:05] <icarious> :S
1263[08:16:09] <icarious> Ok this is new
1264[08:16:10] <somiaj> oracle will not let vbox devs fix older versions.
1265[08:16:19] <icarious> wow
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1267[08:16:22] <somiaj> yea it was removed in stretch, orcale stoped its devs from backporting fixes to previous versions
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1269[08:16:43] <icarious> We seriously need a virtualbox fork like Oo.org -> Libreoffice.
1270[08:16:53] <somiaj> since debian cannot support a frozen vbox version, they supply it via stretch-backports, no security support (Except by newer versions as they slowly become avaialble).
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1272[08:16:57] <icarious> I mean personally i make do with libvirt+KVM . But it would great to have a vbox fork
1273[08:17:02] <somiaj> ore just use qemu-kvm
1274[08:17:17] <icarious> ok so Backports are not security managed either?
1275[08:17:18] <somiaj> or just get some of the windows guest vbox features into qemu
1276[08:17:29] <somiaj> icarious: nope
1277[08:17:36] <icarious> Ok. Will keep that in mind
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1279[08:17:45] <icarious> I think I need it for just one package. This game 0ad
1280[08:17:50] <somiaj> to hard to manage all of them, backports are povided so peolle have access to newer software, but if youw atn security support. Use the version in stretch.
1281[08:18:06] <somiaj> icarious: you need what for 0ad?
1282[08:18:18] <somiaj> 0ad works fine here, so unsure what extra package you are talking about.
1283[08:18:55] <icarious> somiaj: I don't know if something changed. previous 0ad wasn't updated constantly on stable. and it has this multiplayer lobby feature since the last 2-3 years which needs to be up to date to be able to play with other players
1284[08:18:59] <somiaj> icarious: basically backports are tehre so you can have a mostly stable system.
1285[08:19:13] <icarious> Surely, I would like to avoid it as much as possible.
1286[08:19:15] <somiaj> ahh if you need a newerversion, then ya, I don't play it that much.
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1288[08:19:30] <somiaj> I don't think something like 0ad will be tha tmuch of a secuirty risk having from backports personally.
1289[08:20:18] <icarious> somiaj: Debatable. You should have seen the recent urban-terror related CVEs few months back
1290[08:20:20] <icarious> :S
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1292[08:20:52] <somiaj> icarious: You should think of backport packages and any other things you install outside of debian has things you need to manage. If it is only a few things it is fairly easy to keep up on.
1293[08:21:02] <somiaj> icarious: yea, I comletely overlooked the multiplayer feature of the game...
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1296[08:21:18] <icarious> I use apparmor though
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1302[08:21:56] <icarious> brb lunch
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1311[08:24:39] <K_Tux> hello good night, does anyone use the global plasma menu 5? What package should I install to work with GTK applications, for example Libreoffice, Firefox, Chrome, Gimp, etc ...? Translated by Google.
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1316[08:25:32] <K_Tux> I speack Spanish
1317[08:25:48] <somiaj> !es
1318[08:25:48] <dpkg> Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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1322[08:27:00] <K_Tux> nadie en #debian-es
1323[08:27:28] <somiaj> Might be more on irc.oftc.net
1324[08:27:38] <K_Tux> nobody in #debian-es
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1327[08:28:14] <somiaj> K_Tux: join irc.oftc.net ircnetwork for that channel.
1328[08:28:23] <somiaj> maybe you want this package.
1329[08:28:30] <somiaj> ,v qt5-gtk-platformtheme
1330[08:28:31] <judd> Package: qt5-gtk-platformtheme on amd64 -- stretch: 5.7.1+dfsg-3+b1; buster: 5.9.2+dfsg-12; sid: 5.10.1+dfsg-5
1331[08:28:35] <somiaj> replaced-url
1332[08:29:58] <K_Tux> ok, thank's
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1346[08:32:45] <icarious> back
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1354[08:37:25] <Red_M> I'm trying to open some tun interfaces but not as root
1355[08:37:45] <Red_M> my user is in the netdev group but I am still denied creating a tun interface
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1368[08:47:47] <icarious> Red_M: Given the channel is quiet. I don't know if I am qualified to answer you. But I have never been able to use tun as regular user
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1374[08:49:51] <Red_M> I got this working once but I've had to do a system reinstall since then and annoyingly the latest stable branch has seemed to have changed this even if I give a user the correct group to be in
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1376[08:50:19] <icarious> the reason I think it shouldn't work is cause it will load the tun module
1377[08:50:35] <Red_M> tun is part of the standard kernel
1378[08:50:45] <Red_M> no modprobe is required
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1382[08:51:18] <icarious> Red_M: I think it is configured as a [M] and autoinserted upon request by systemd. Check the kernel config in /boot for tun
1383[08:51:46] <icarious> if its "y" , then its configured in the kernel
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1385[08:51:53] <Red_M> I can create these as root
1386[08:51:58] <Red_M> without modprobe
1387[08:52:15] <Red_M> my user is denied access while being in netdev
1388[08:52:43] <icarious> Red_M: "i am unsure" but module insertion works automatically for Debian I guess. Anyway, its best to ask someone from here
1389[08:52:45] <icarious> Not on Debian atm
1390[08:52:58] <Red_M> and no, sudo, su or setid is not an option
1391[08:53:08] <Red_M> trying to use this: replaced-url
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1393[08:53:27] <Red_M> and I'm using the stable repo's package of it
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1395[08:53:40] <Red_M> but I am being denied tun interfaces
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1397[08:54:28] <icarious> I am not qualified to answer it. from what I know, i use openvpn and tun requires root (but this isn't Debian in my case)
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1419[09:06:43] <Nothing4You> can i install e.g. luasec for lua 5.2 from debian packages? while i can install lua5.1, lua5.2, lua5.3 it seems there are no lua-versioned packages for libs
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1458[09:31:20] <ChrisH> I pressed some "magic" Keyboard combination and now my KDE does no longer show my background pictures nor any shortcuts on the desktop. I assume it was some combination involving the lower left keys (CTRL, Windows, ALT, shift) and upper left (F1-F4) as I wanted to switch desktops. Any google research had no success.
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1484[09:40:39] <daedeloth> is there a way to force using one network connection for certain domains and another one for all other domains?
1485[09:40:52] <daedeloth> that's probably a weird question
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1489[09:44:36] <cef> daedeloth: you can do it using routing if you have IP level info (ie: if it's a fixed IP or group of IP's). Can also be done if it's just a specific protocol you want to route
1490[09:45:52] <daedeloth> cef, yea the ips are static
1491[09:46:07] <cef> the problem with doing it at the dns level is that where a dns entry points can change.
1492[09:46:09] <daedeloth> i'm in one of these "either you have internet or you have access to the company server"
1493[09:47:35] <cef> ok, so how is it currently set up?
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1495[09:48:40] <cef> dropped off I see
1496[09:48:50] <daedeloth_> yea
1497[09:49:05] <cef> So what's the current setup?
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1500[09:49:38] <daedeloth_> wifi has full internet cable only has http internet :)
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1502[09:49:58] <rigo43yebd> hi. i'd like to have a small adjustment on this line: for f in *.flac; do ffmpeg -i "$f" -ab 320k -map_metadata 0 "${f%.flac}.mp3"; done
1503[09:50:00] <rigo43yebd> so it does the job recursively in all the subdirs of the dir i'm starting the command from. thanks
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1507[09:51:02] <cef> daedeloth_: ok.. so you've got 2 ways to the internet, and you want to use wifi as the main one, but the cable for certain things?
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1510[09:51:45] <cef> daedeloth_: ok.. so you've got 2 ways to the internet, and you want to use wifi as the main one, but the cable for certain things?
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1512[09:52:10] <Haohmaru> wifi :~(
1513[09:52:25] <daedeloth__> yep :)
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1515[09:52:30] <daedeloth__> also the wifi seems very unstable
1516[09:52:30] <daedeloth__> so no
1517[09:52:52] <cef> :/
1518[09:52:55] <Haohmaru> wifi would've been much better if it used a cable.. oh wait
1519[09:53:13] <daedeloth__> maybe i should just use a proxy server
1520[09:53:58] <cef> daedeloth__: basically you could get both interfaces up and use "route" to force any connections to the company server to go out the ethernet.
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1523[09:54:30] <cef> daedeloth__: given how unstable the wifi seems, might be a better choice
1524[09:54:35] <daedeloth__> yea
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1526[09:55:11] <daedeloth__> is that something I need to rent or is it easy to setup a proxy server on a machine you have running?
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1528[09:55:40] <cef> daedeloth__: but yeah, look at the 'route' command if you want to force certain IP's out a different interface.
1529[09:55:54] <daedeloth__> ok, will do thanks :)
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1531[09:56:27] <cef> once you know the route command you need (you can test from a terminal) then I think network manager allows you to add routes to interfaces when they automatically come up.
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1539[10:00:14] <rigo43yebd> awesome. thanks (jeez why the f am i bothering asking...)
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1541[10:00:49] <cef> and just as I was about to answer. :P
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1639[10:57:11] <jelly> !qotd0
1640[10:57:12] <dpkg> from memory, qotd123 is <boudiccas> so it appears, /usr/local/bin/mv dated 3/11/13 <boudiccas> hmm, cant see where i've got it from <babilen> boudiccas: I would guess that you installed it in an attack of boudiccas-ness ;)
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1687[11:38:29] <hexhaxtron> How can I install gcc-5 without breaking the system?
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1699[11:45:33] <petn-randall> hexhaxtron: You can't.
1700[11:45:52] <petn-randall> hexhaxtron: However, you could use a chroot with an old Debian that still ships with gcc5.
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1825[13:01:50] <fluffypillows> i luv tits
1826[13:01:54] <fluffypillows> titties
1827[13:01:57] <fluffypillows> yum
1828[13:02:01] <fluffypillows> !ops yum
1829[13:02:01] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: fluffypillows complains about a problem (see above)
1830[13:02:09] <fluffypillows> so squeezable
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1897[13:49:00] <haba713> hi! "apt install gitlab" gives an error "Could not find gem 'rails (>= 4.2.7.1, ~> 4.2) ruby' in the gems available on this machine" in debian stretch. what's the problem and how can i install gitlab from debian repository?
1898[13:49:53] <petn-randall> !bat
1899[13:49:54] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
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1901[13:50:05] <petn-randall> haba713: Can you provide all the information above in a single paste? ^^^
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1908[13:54:59] <jelly> ,v gitlab
1909[13:55:01] <judd> Package: gitlab on amd64 -- stretch: 8.13.11+dfsg1-8; stretch-proposed-updates: 8.13.11+dfsg1-8+deb9u1; stretch-security: 8.13.11+dfsg1-8+deb9u1; sid/contrib: 10.6.3+dfsg-1
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1912[13:55:44] <jelly> huh, it's actually packaged
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1915[13:56:16] <haba713> petn-randall: paste is here: replaced-url
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1917[13:57:51] <petn-randall> haba713: That is ... not all the info I asked for. Please read the factoid to the end.
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1922[14:00:29] <blaztek> install rails?
1923[14:00:47] <jelly> it's a hard dependency
1924[14:00:54] <jelly> Depends: [...] ruby-rails (>= 2:4.2.7~),
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1926[14:01:37] <jelly> it's likely the user either has a custom ruby binary in path, or has installed gems as root manually
1927[14:01:54] <blaztek> package rails, in stretch is 2:4.2.7.1-1
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1929[14:02:26] <blaztek> I see
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1935[14:05:53] <haba713> jelly: ruby was installed as a dependency when running apt install git. see this paste: replaced-url
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1943[14:10:41] <siraben> haba713: Please use replaced-url
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1947[14:11:20] <siraben> haba713: You did "apt install gitlab", not "apt install git"
1948[14:11:45] <petn-randall> haba713: Let us know as soon as you have that paste ready for us.
1949[14:12:15] <petn-randall> haba713: 2) 'apt-cache policy gitlab' and 3) 'apt-cache policy'
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1959[14:14:50] <haba713> siraben: paste was too big for paste.debian.net
1960[14:14:57] <siraben> haba713: Ah I see
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1962[14:15:08] <haba713> siraben: sorry for typo in comment
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1964[14:15:45] <siraben> haba713: What about replaced-url
1965[14:15:57] <siraben> haba713: Don't worry. What was the previous question?
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1974[14:19:46] <haba713> petn-randall: 2) and 3) here: replaced-url
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1983[14:24:11] <blaztek> haba713, just out of curiosity, does `sudo apt purge gitlab` and then `sudo apt install gitlab` work?
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1989[14:25:30] <furrymcgee> few weeks ago i tried to build gitlab, here is my ruby setup replaced-url
1990[14:26:18] <petn-randall> haba713: Can you also provide the output of 'apt-cache policy ruby-rails'? I also suspect you might have install gems as root.
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1993[14:27:00] <haba713> blaztek: no it doesn't: replaced-url
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1997[14:28:18] <haba713> petn-randall: replaced-url
1998[14:28:35] <blaztek> haba713, I think petn-randall is right...because, not that it helps, it installed just fine, just now on my debian stretch
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2001[14:29:33] <haba713> we have user 'git' in ldap and i use it as a gitlab user when asked. can it be the problem?
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2009[14:33:43] <haba713> what does "install gems as root" mean? ruby & rails was installed as root automatically during "apt install gitlab". before that there were no ruby or rails installed in this vm.
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2013[14:34:44] <haba713> the vm is cloned from a template vm that used to be jessie but upgraded to stretch before cloning.
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2015[14:35:00] <petn-randall> haba713: Your problem is this part: "Could not find gem 'rails (>= 4.2.7.1, ~> 4.2) ruby' in the gems available on this machine." I'm assuming you ran 'gem install <something>' in the past as root, and that is interfering with the system packages.
2016[14:35:24] <blaztek> haba713, installing a gem "as root" means as opposed to using apt...`gem gitlab` like that
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2018[14:36:18] <haba713> can i check somehow if that's the case?
2019[14:37:13] <haba713> i doubt it because the template vm is minimal netinst debian
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2023[14:38:30] <prillian5> I have setup debian in Vbox. I've setup nginx on port 8080 its's up and running. Also available in VBox-Guest via localhost:8080
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2026[14:38:58] <jelly> haba713: does find "/usr/local/lib/site_ruby -type f" return any output or nothing?
2027[14:39:02] <jelly> erm.
2028[14:39:09] <jelly> haba713: does "find /usr/local/lib/site_ruby -type f" return any output or nothing?
2029[14:39:16] <prillian5> I have done a host-only network for this guest and I'm able to see the vboxnet0 at the host if I hall ifconfig
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2031[14:39:31] <prillian5> but I can't access via ip:8080 from host to debian-guest.
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2033[14:39:34] <haba713> jelly: find: ‘/usr/local/lib/site_ruby’: No such file or directory
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2035[14:39:43] <prillian5> Is there a firewall or something else which is blocking requests by default?
2036[14:40:16] <petn-randall> prillian5: There is none, unless you installed one.
2037[14:40:34] <prillian5> Ok,
2038[14:40:41] <petn-randall> prillian5: Try replaced-url
2039[14:41:06] <petn-randall> prillian5: I'm guessing your set up for localhost:8080 is just a port foward, and nginx is listening on the default port.
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2041[14:41:13] <prillian5> It's : replaced-url
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2044[14:41:44] <jelly> haba713: and ls -ld /usr/local/lib/*/site_ruby ?
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2046[14:43:15] <prillian5> petn-randall: Ah, good hint. It's not a clean nginx, but "screenly", which seems to use some kind of nginx in background. But I'll check their configs, maybe they restrict access to localhost
2047[14:43:32] <haba713> jelly: drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 80 huhti 13 2014 /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby
2048[14:43:32] <haba713> (have a phone call)
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2050[14:44:39] <blaztek> prillian5, I always, under Setup, do the Advanced->Port Forwarding and it works for me but I run VBox as an unprivlidge user...so I can't use port 80 on the host
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2053[14:45:27] <blaztek> prillian5, sorry...Settings, Network Advanced->Port Forwarding
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2060[14:47:40] <jhutchins> prillian5: There are different ways to set up networking on a vbox guest. The default allows access to the network, but doesn't allow connections from the host. You should read the documentation, it's very clear how to achieve whatever results you want.
2061[14:47:41] <jelly> haba713: okay, are there any files under that directory?
2062[14:47:49] <jelly> haba713: find /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby -type f
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2064[14:48:19] <jelly> haba713: if there are, that would mean someone has been installing stuff manually
2065[14:48:49] <haba713> jelly: no files under that directory
2066[14:49:07] <prillian5> @blaztek ok, thank you
2067[14:49:57] <jelly> haba713: well, you'llhave to find out what's preventing ruby from finding OS-provided rails gem, somehow
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2072[14:52:31] <haba713> jelly: i'm not ruby & rails expert. how can i test which "rails gem ruby finds"?
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2074[14:53:41] <petn-randall> haba713: Is there anything special about that machine? Do you maybe have installing recommend disabled?
2075[14:53:50] <petn-randall> Then there might be a bug in the dependencies.
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2077[14:56:33] <haba713> petn-randall: there may some special configurations because this the template vm is and old jessie vm which as upgraded to stretch. during the upgrade some configuration files was chosen as maintainer's version and some (like ldap) was left custom.
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2079[14:56:58] <haba713> (sorry typos. having a phone call at the same time.)
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2084[15:01:38] <furrymcgee> would like to see this in debian gitlab replaced-url
2085[15:02:21] <haba713> i ran "strace gem list" and it seems to read files under "/usr/local/lib/ruby". we have nfs shared "/usr/local". this must be the problem.
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2088[15:02:58] <haba713> there seems to be some old files
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2100[15:10:23] <haba713> petn-randall, blaztek and jelly: unmounting /usr/local did the trick. thanks a lot for helping!
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2104[15:12:56] <petn-randall> haba713: Ah, good to hear. I wonder why it didn't show up with the find call, though.
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2106[15:14:23] <petn-randall> furrymcgee: I doubt it'll be merged, because asciidoc is deprecated and will be removed from many projects soon.
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2130[15:24:56] <LeoNerd> Lenovo X220, sitting on a Lenovo dock with a cdrom drive. I have no /dev/cdrom and thus cdparanoia can't read my CD
2131[15:25:11] <LeoNerd> The CD drive is definitely powered, because the eject mechanism works, and I hear the disk spin up when I close the tray
2132[15:25:17] <LeoNerd> Any ideas what I can debug?
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2141[15:28:33] <petn-randall> LeoNerd: /dev/cdrom is usually a symlink to the cdrom drive. Do you have any block devices that are mapped to the cdrom drive? You could check with 'lshw.
2142[15:28:38] <petn-randall> 'lshw'.
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2148[15:31:55] <LeoNerd> Oh also, the dock _generally_ is working fine, because both my keyboard and mouse are plugged into USB ports on it
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2154[15:34:41] <haba713> according to replaced-url
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2162[15:38:26] <LeoNerd> Well, that's annoying. A reboot while on the dock makes it work. But I don't know how I can refresh it next time I move
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2166[15:39:30] <JordiGH> d-i is failing to install grub, how do you switch to a tty that has more information?
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2168[15:40:21] <jelly> Alt-F3 or maybe F2
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2170[15:40:37] <jelly> one of those is logs, one is for a shell
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2175[15:41:35] <JordiGH> Ah, got it. Stupid BIOS makes it so that I have to push Fn to get the normal F1-F12 keys.
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2178[15:43:05] <LeoNerd> Sounds like *dark shades* fun
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2182[15:44:04] <jomofcw> Hello !
2183[15:44:08] <petn-randall> JordiGH: Failing grub is usually because you used rufus/unetbootin to create the image. Or you partitioned it in a way that broke it.
2184[15:44:14] <petn-randall> hi jomofcw!
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2186[15:45:14] <jomofcw> As the seems to be not "vsftpd" channel, I try to ask there : I connect to my debian vsftpd server using system users (no explicit vsftpd user list), but when I try to write in a file that is in the home directory of the user I have no access to it. How to get it work, please ?
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2193[15:46:55] <petn-randall> jomofcw: IMHO, ditch FTP and use sftp. It's much easier to configure.
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2199[15:47:48] <jomofcw> petn-randall yup already done ^^ but i'm curious and I wanna understand :x...
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2206[15:51:13] <jasperarcola> Is there a way to tell strace just just track one fd? I've tried -e read=12 but it shows the others as well, and -e read=12,!0,!1 isn't valid.
2207[15:51:20] <jasperarcola> *to just
2208[15:51:29] <jomofcw> Fixed ! I just had to uncomment "write_enable=YES" in the vsftpd.conf :D.
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2230[15:59:39] <JordiGH> petn-randall: I used wht?
2231[15:59:56] <JordiGH> I just told d-i to do a guided partitioning and have been hitting next next next next
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2233[16:00:30] <Haohmaru> are you in an endless loop in the partitioner in the debian installation?
2234[16:00:42] <JordiGH> No, the partitioning seems to be done.
2235[16:02:35] <JordiGH> It's the install grub step that is failing...
2236[16:02:37] <JordiGH> Let me see...
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2242[16:03:09] <JordiGH> Hm, there is no less or vi.
2243[16:03:17] <Haohmaru> JordiGH are you installing from "netinst" or a live iso?
2244[16:03:18] <JordiGH> Do I really have to use more to view the syslog right now?
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2246[16:03:33] <JordiGH> Haohmaru: Live ISO, booted into netinst mode.
2247[16:03:45] <Haohmaru> hm?
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2250[16:03:58] <JordiGH> Well, a live ISO has several boot options.
2251[16:04:13] <JordiGH> You can either boot into Debian and run a Mate X session from the USB.
2252[16:04:16] <JordiGH> Or you can boot into d-i
2253[16:04:18] <JordiGH> I'm in d-i
2254[16:04:18] <Haohmaru> i had installation issues before, specifically with grub, but i think it was with debian8
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2257[16:04:41] <JordiGH> Is that current stable?
2258[16:04:52] <Haohmaru> no, we're debian9 now
2259[16:04:54] <JordiGH> No, 9.3 is current.
2260[16:04:58] <JordiGH> So that's what I'm installing.
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2262[16:05:24] <Haohmaru> i installed 9 from a live ISO and it was a mistake
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2265[16:05:43] <Haohmaru> it might be fixed by now, who knows
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2268[16:05:53] <JordiGH> Does this mean you didn't run d-i or something?
2269[16:05:58] <JordiGH> What does installing from a live ISO mean?
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2273[16:06:18] <Haohmaru> JordiGH i honestly have no idea what you mean with "d-i"
2274[16:06:22] <JordiGH> debian-installer
2275[16:06:37] <Haohmaru> uhm, that doesn't mean much to me
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2278[16:06:51] <JordiGH> The thing that has either a "graphical" mode or a curses mode and asks you questions.
2279[16:07:08] <JordiGH> What is your hostname, what is your username, what is your quest.
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2283[16:07:28] <Haohmaru> well sure that's the actual installer
2284[16:07:38] <JordiGH> And that's what you mean by live ISO/
2285[16:07:39] <JordiGH> ?
2286[16:07:42] <Haohmaru> but if you want to install debian, there are a bunch of different ISOs
2287[16:08:18] <JordiGH> So you think the live ISO is just buggy and I should run d-i from a different ISO?
2288[16:08:26] <Haohmaru> the recommended way was using the "netinst" ISO, which is tiny, and pretty much has no packages built-in, so you need internetz during the installation
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2290[16:08:41] <JordiGH> I have internetz during installation.
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2293[16:09:11] <sine0> i always use net install its great and quick for a basic system
2294[16:09:12] <Haohmaru> then there are the "live" ISOs which are handy if you want to try debian out, they come with a number of DEs and stuff, and also have the installer
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2299[16:10:34] <Haohmaru> the live ISO in my case installed debian with a broken grub (iirc), and it also installed a ton of *weird* packages for fonts/programs/converters/dictionaries for all kinds of obscure languages
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2303[16:11:53] <jhutchins_wk> !live
2304[16:11:53] <dpkg> The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from replaced-url
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2307[16:12:37] <petn-randall> JordiGH: How did you prepare the installation image?
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2309[16:13:01] <JordiGH> petn-randall: dd if=debian-live.is of=/dev/sdb
2310[16:13:22] <SerajewelKS> i've never used anything except the netinst CD, except when i need an offline install (then i use CD 1 of the full distro) or when using debootstrap for running sid stuff in a chroot on a stable system
2311[16:13:24] <JordiGH> Haohmaru: I think I just want to get grub installed. I don't really care about any other Debian packages.
2312[16:14:03] <JordiGH> Ah, well, I mostly just wanted d-i for the partitioning. Let me reboot into the Mate DE on the usb and see if I can install grub from there.
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2314[16:14:23] <SerajewelKS> what, you can't partition from the command line like a man? /s
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2316[16:14:39] <JordiGH> What if I happen to be a beautiful princess?
2317[16:14:50] <SerajewelKS> are you?
2318[16:15:04] <JordiGH> No, I'm an ugly dude, but I can have my aspirations.
2319[16:15:21] <SerajewelKS> :)
2320[16:15:26] <Brigo> XD
2321[16:15:45] <SerajewelKS> maybe you could partition from the command line like a beautiful princess then, it would be a step in that direction
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2323[16:16:03] <Brigo> JordiGH, for installing grub you have to mount the root partition and chroot into it.
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2325[16:16:11] <SerajewelKS> (having said that, yeah, the d-i partitioner is pretty nice)
2326[16:16:13] <JordiGH> Well, the partitioning is done, now to install grub.
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2330[16:16:42] <SerajewelKS> my favorite part of installing debian is setting up LVM+encyption with the partitioner
2331[16:16:48] <SerajewelKS> encryption too
2332[16:18:01] <JordiGH> Yeah, that's what I wanted.
2333[16:18:10] <JordiGH> wtf the live iso doesn't have cryptsetup?
2334[16:18:40] <SerajewelKS> apt install it?
2335[16:19:03] <petn-randall> The live installers are a lot less tested.
2336[16:19:07] <JordiGH> No sources.list :-/
2337[16:19:13] <JordiGH> Let me set that up first
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2343[16:19:44] <JordiGH> I guess that's going to write to the usb? Fine by me.
2344[16:20:03] <JordiGH> no vim either
2345[16:20:09] <JordiGH> I guess I'll use gedit like a plebe
2346[16:20:13] <Tenkawa> greetings all
2347[16:20:17] <petn-randall> Just use the official net installer ...
2348[16:20:20] <petn-randall> hi Tenkawa
2349[16:21:09] <JordiGH> petn-randall: I don't want to install anything other than grub. After that, I just want to dd my old encrypted partition onto the new one, possibly through the unencrypting mappers for both because I'm not sure what happens if i also dd the LUKS headers.
2350[16:21:25] <bites> JordiGH: have you looked in /sbin/ for cryptsetup?
2351[16:21:36] <tw> replaced-url
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2354[16:21:55] <tw> Most awesome exploit I would have never thought of.
2355[16:22:01] <JordiGH> bites: Yep, not there.
2356[16:22:05] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: i'm pretty sure that dd'ing a LUKS volume should work
2357[16:22:05] <JordiGH> No gedit either!
2358[16:22:13] <petn-randall> tw: beep!
2359[16:22:30] <tw> Yeah, I'm probably in the wrong channel <.<
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2361[16:22:37] <JordiGH> Well, you can't take away the greatest ext editor ever: cat - > foo
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2365[16:23:29] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: the only issue you might run into is if the partitions aren't exactly the same size (the destination is slightly larger) then the extra space at the end may not be usable
2366[16:23:35] <SerajewelKS> but the volume should decrypt just fine
2367[16:24:00] <JordiGH> SerajewelKS: The destination is much larger.
2368[16:24:04] <JordiGH> It's 1 TB
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2371[16:24:12] <JordiGH> Source is 350 GB, I think, let me check.
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2374[16:24:34] <JordiGH> 222G, quoth df -h
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2378[16:24:45] <bolt> blargh
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2381[16:25:09] <JordiGH> SerajewelKS: The LUKS header has an UUID, and I am not sure what this entails.
2382[16:25:10] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: is the old volume LVM-in-LUKS?
2383[16:25:30] <JordiGH> I think so? It's whatever d-i does when you tell it to do a guided encrypted partition with LVM.
2384[16:25:42] <JordiGH> And use the whole disk.
2385[16:25:44] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: the UUID can remain the same, as long as you don't boot the machine with both old and new volumes attached
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2388[16:26:23] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: consider instead creating a second LUKS volume to fill up the rest of the disk and make the new decrypted volume another LVM PV, then just vgextend+lvextend
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2390[16:26:37] <JordiGH> wat
2391[16:26:42] <JordiGH> Buddy I have no idea what you're talking about.
2392[16:26:44] <SerajewelKS> if you use the same passphrase, the boot process should try it on both encrypted volumes at the same time
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2396[16:27:02] <JordiGH> I'm just trying to move my old disk onto a new laptop.
2397[16:27:04] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: so your old setup is: 222G LUKS volume containing an LVM PV?
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2400[16:27:17] <JordiGH> I guess so? Whatever d-i did.
2401[16:27:28] <JordiGH> When I told it to do a full disk encryption with LVM.
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2405[16:27:45] <SerajewelKS> okay so, copy that guy verbatim into a partition of exactly the same size on the new disk
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2408[16:28:12] <JordiGH> Are you sure I can't just dd across the unencrypting mappers?
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2410[16:28:23] <JordiGH> I don't want to have to worry about different partition sizes.
2411[16:28:55] <SerajewelKS> if you want to do it "right" (have one partition) and retain LVM, there is another option
2412[16:29:12] <SerajewelKS> which basically involves setting up a new LUKS volume and a new LVM VG
2413[16:29:28] <petn-randall> You can tell luks and also lvm to just expand to fill the complete partition, so dd'ing that over should work just fine. You don't need a fresh installation for that, though :)
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2416[16:29:55] <SerajewelKS> petn-randall: can you extend a PV?
2417[16:30:27] <SerajewelKS> so you can, pvresive
2418[16:30:30] <JordiGH> Uh, this is weird, looks like I managed to decrypt the partition I just created, but says I don't have a filesystem in there?
2419[16:30:40] <JordiGH> I wonder if that's the live system again missing stuff to see what's in the volume.
2420[16:30:46] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: did you create a filesystem in there?
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2422[16:31:08] <JordiGH> "Unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'"
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2424[16:31:24] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: it's an LVM PV then
2425[16:31:39] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: so you need to access it through the LVM mapper
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2429[16:32:29] <SerajewelKS> cryptsetup creates a new dm node representing the unencrypted data. LVM should notice that and set up all of the LVM state and give you dm nodes for each logical volume in that LVM VG.
2430[16:32:47] <JordiGH> What's the lvm command?
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2434[16:34:26] <SerajewelKS> there's many
2435[16:34:32] <SerajewelKS> it's a suite
2436[16:35:22] <SerajewelKS> pvscan might be what you want, though LVM should have done that automatically. what did you name the new volume group?
2437[16:35:51] <jhutchins_wk> !ig
2438[16:35:51] <dpkg> [stretch installation guide] The Installation Guide for Debian 9 "Stretch" can be found at replaced-url
2439[16:36:08] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: have a look under /dev/mapper
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2441[16:36:40] <SerajewelKS> you should see a bunch of stuff, including the LUKS-decrypted nodes. you should also see the LVM LVs.
2442[16:37:18] <SerajewelKS> so assuming that your old setup is LVM-in-LUKS and your new setup is as well, you should just be able to dd from the old LV node to the new LV node
2443[16:38:23] <JordiGH> There's only the LUKS things, lvm hasn't created any mappers yet.
2444[16:38:32] <SerajewelKS> then assuming the volume is ext, you can resize2fs the new LV node to have the filesystem fill the LV
2445[16:38:40] <SerajewelKS> hmm. try pvscan?
2446[16:38:56] <SerajewelKS> does vgdisplay list any volume groups?
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2449[16:39:40] <JordiGH> Yeah, I totally see the partitions.
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2451[16:40:04] <JordiGH> Called chloe-vg/root and chlose-vg/swap_1
2452[16:40:14] <JordiGH> d-i created those, chloe is the hostname
2453[16:40:25] <SerajewelKS> so those are the old ones or the new ones?
2454[16:40:48] <SerajewelKS> did you use the same VG name as the old VG or did you use a different one?
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2458[16:41:58] <JordiGH> New ones, I haven't plugged in the new thing yet.
2459[16:42:09] <JordiGH> Er, haven't plugged in the old (source) drive in yet.
2460[16:42:18] <JordiGH> It's the same vg name.
2461[16:42:26] <SerajewelKS> ugh. okay, that may make things difficult.
2462[16:42:38] <JordiGH> Well, I can pick a different hostname.
2463[16:42:42] <SerajewelKS> i'm not sure how LVM handles having two VGs with the same name. i haven't been in that situation before.
2464[16:42:46] * JordiGH looks at other Greek feminine names.
2465[16:43:12] <JordiGH> I supppose zoe is the next obvious choice.
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2467[16:43:40] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: can you just vgrename the new one temporarily?
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2469[16:43:54] <JordiGH> Uhm, sure, I guess.
2470[16:44:03] <SerajewelKS> vgrename chloe-vg chloe2-vg
2471[16:44:34] <SerajewelKS> can you run lvdisplay and ensure that the "LV size" is what you're expecting (~1TB)
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2476[16:45:34] <black_13> how do you mount cifs share and it not be root
2477[16:45:41] <JordiGH> Yep yep there it is (937 GiB but what's a few gigs between friends).
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2479[16:45:57] <SerajewelKS> okay, now you should be ready to plug in the old drive
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2481[16:46:18] <JordiGH> Okay, but what about grub?
2482[16:46:25] <JordiGH> I wanted to do that first.
2483[16:46:33] <JordiGH> Since I'm currently on the laptop with the old drive, heh.
2484[16:46:50] <JordiGH> I have a third laptop to keep talking while I perform the drive transplant.
2485[16:47:33] <SerajewelKS> i'm not sure it makes sense to install grub yet
2486[16:47:54] <JordiGH> I still don't have an lvm mapper, btw.
2487[16:47:57] <SerajewelKS> you'd want to do that from inside of a chroot in the newly-migrated volume
2488[16:48:11] <SerajewelKS> in lvdisplay, what does "LV Status" say?
2489[16:48:32] <JordiGH> "NOT available"
2490[16:48:55] <NetTerminalGene> ,kernel
2491[16:48:56] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.16.0-rc6-686 (4.16~rc6-1~exp1); sid: 4.15.0-2-686 (4.15.11-1); buster: 4.15.0-2-686 (4.15.11-1); stretch-backports: 4.14.0-0.bpo.3-686-pae (4.14.13-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-6-686-pae (4.9.82-1+deb9u3); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.5-686-pae (4.9.65-3+deb9u2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-5-686-pae (3.16.51-3+deb8u1); wheezy-backports:
2492[16:48:57] <judd> 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-5-686-pae (3.2.96-3)
2493[16:49:06] <SerajewelKS> vgchange -a y chloe2-vg
2494[16:49:12] <SerajewelKS> should make them available in /dev/mapper
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2497[16:49:49] <JordiGH> Ah, there they are!
2498[16:50:12] <SerajewelKS> good. so now we need to bring in the source disk.
2499[16:51:32] <JordiGH> I'm going to have to manually do the decrypting and lvm mount again, eh?
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2503[16:52:12] <SerajewelKS> yep
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2509[16:53:04] <JordiGH> Okay, bbl, gotta log off and set up the hardware.
2510[16:53:16] <SerajewelKS> k
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2513[16:53:41] <Mattx> Hi all! Is there a way to config linux so that it uses different network interfaces each time an application opens a connection??
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2516[16:54:09] <Mattx> Not sure how it's done but I'm guessing there must be a way to do some kind of "interface load balance"
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2518[16:54:39] <ksk> Mattx: what are you really trying to do?
2519[16:54:52] <ksk> its not like one would have 10k interfaces, right?
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2521[16:55:09] <Mattx> no 10k, but 10 virtual interfaces is doable
2522[16:55:30] <FinalX> you can do interface bonding, but not really "every time an application opens a connection"
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2525[16:55:51] <FinalX> plus the router/switch behind it must be able to handle it
2526[16:55:55] <ksk> there are some methods: routing and sanboxing (and maybe multipath tcp, but. eh :D )
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2529[16:56:17] <ksk> like spawn a container cgrpup, attach it to an interface, spawn programme in there.
2530[16:56:30] <ksk> but that really depends on what you are trying to archive initally
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2533[16:57:30] <Mattx> Maybe you have a better idea but the thing is this. I need to consume an api which only allows for 1 call per second. I thought I can rise that limit if I send a request let's say, 10 times a second, through 10 different interfaces
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2535[16:58:06] <Mattx> It seems I can setup those 10 interfaces in AWS, but that alone doesn't solve the problem
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2537[16:58:22] <SerajewelKS> that seems a bit unethical, IMO
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2539[16:58:49] <SerajewelKS> if you really wanted to pursue that, i would instead consider having a proxy process toward which you direct your requests, and let it take care of round-robin on the source interfaces
2540[16:59:25] <SerajewelKS> you could also consider contacting the company offering the service and asking for a limit increase for your use case
2541[16:59:33] <Mattx> I think that would work, SerajewelKS, but what proxy process would that be? Any application you know for this?
2542[17:00:03] <SerajewelKS> i don't know of anything off the shelf (not that something doesn't exist)
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2544[17:00:19] <SerajewelKS> it should be a pretty straightforward thing to write in python/ruby/nodejs
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2547[17:00:57] <Mattx> should be if there's a way to direct a package to one network interface and then another, and another
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2549[17:01:05] <SerajewelKS> but i would first contact the entity offering the API and discuss the rate limit issue with them
2550[17:01:07] <Mattx> but that was my initial question, not sure how it's done
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2553[17:01:25] <jelly> Mattx: binding source ip address is standard functionality, telnet has -b option
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2555[17:01:28] <SerajewelKS> Mattx: it would be done in the process by specifying the source address for the connection, which is usually left to 0.0.0.0 (auto)
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2560[17:02:38] <devrikx> Hello, I've gotten debian buster installed on my Samsung Galaxy Book - Got everything working except the Mobile Broadband and the wifi - looking for somee help getting them working. The wifi is qualcomm QCA6174 - I"ve tried dkms and the diedrik github variant - neither works. The mobile broadband I can't even figure out what the chipset is let alone how to get it working. Anyone with the know-how able to help me out?
2561[17:02:39] <Mattx> hmn, I haven't seen that param in any http api before
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2563[17:02:47] <Mattx> that would be the source address of the interface?
2564[17:02:55] <SerajewelKS> Mattx: yes
2565[17:03:11] <SerajewelKS> some higher level APIs may not offer it. you may need to look for an HTTP library that exposes this option.
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2570[17:04:00] <jelly> source address of a tcp connection (that usually has to be defined on an interface yes)
2571[17:04:01] <jhutchins_wk> If it's throttled to one request per second, there's probably a good reason for it.
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2574[17:04:47] <ksk> yeah, you have the wrong solution imho. Will totally violate that API providers TOS ;)
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2585[17:08:51] <JordiGH> Well, that's a disappointment.
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2587[17:09:38] <SerajewelKS> how so?
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2589[17:10:27] <JordiGH> This thing, I think it's called a SATA bridge or something, where I can plug in the old SSD and use a usb 3.0 cable to turn it into a usb 2.0 cable, isn't working.
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2591[17:10:50] <SerajewelKS> how do you know it isn't working?
2592[17:10:56] <SerajewelKS> check dmesg for USB connect messages?
2593[17:11:01] <JordiGH> At first I thought the problem was that I wasn't using the right cable shape... replaced-url
2594[17:11:54] <BanHammor> hey, so i'm trying to run a command via SSH so that a window appears on the remote system's native display
2595[17:11:57] <JordiGH> So I got the right cable from Amazon, or at least what looks like the right shape.
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2598[17:12:03] <JordiGH> But I still get this: replaced-url
2599[17:12:19] <BanHammor> this works: DISPLAY=:0.0 lxterminal
2600[17:12:35] <BanHammor> this doesn't: sudo DISPLAY=:0.0 lxterminal
2601[17:12:41] <ksk> JordiGH: but that errors are totally ssd/hdd related? the cable seems to work ;)
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2603[17:12:51] <SerajewelKS> BanHammor: DISPLAY=:0.0 sudo lxterminal
2604[17:13:14] <JordiGH> ksk: Well, the ssd also works when plugged into the other stinkpad, so the bridge must be broken.
2605[17:13:19] <BanHammor> doesn't work either, SerajewelKS
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2608[17:13:33] <BanHammor> sudo isn't supposed to transmit environment variables anyhow
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2611[17:13:58] <SerajewelKS> you can try sudo sh -c 'DISPLAY=:0.0 lxterminal'
2612[17:14:09] <SerajewelKS> you may also have to convey an xauthority file though
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2615[17:15:15] <ksk> JordiGH: might be, Id rather expect it to work or not. what filesystem is on there?
2616[17:15:38] <JordiGH> ksk: lvm inside luks.
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2618[17:15:47] <ksk> and not like "work, but shift the bits so debian does not see FS"
2619[17:15:47] <SerajewelKS> in a partition, too
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2621[17:15:53] <SerajewelKS> it doesn't even look like the kernel can read the partition table
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2625[17:16:28] <SerajewelKS> honestly this doesn't surprise me. hardware can fail in really weird ways.
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2627[17:16:32] <JordiGH> Doesn't "usb reset" mean something like "everything is terrible"?
2628[17:16:42] <jhutchins_wk> BanHammor: The root user doesn't own the display. I think you can use Xauth to allow access, but I've forgotten the details.
2629[17:16:48] <JordiGH> Well, the bridge is the problem, the drive is fine, I think!
2630[17:17:04] <JordiGH> I wonder if I can just buy one nearby...
2631[17:17:12] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: just FYI, i'm leaving to meet a friend for lunch in ~10 minutes
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2633[17:17:24] <JordiGH> SerajewelKS: That's cool, thanks for your help.
2634[17:17:41] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: but basically, once you cryptsetup both partitions and vgchange -a y both VGs, you just need to dd from the old LV to the new LV
2635[17:18:01] <SerajewelKS> lvdisplay to get the paths and see the metainfo for each volume, to make sure you are copying in the right direction
2636[17:18:21] <SerajewelKS> then grow the contained volume on the new LV (resize2fs if ext)
2637[17:18:35] <SerajewelKS> after that, it's time to set up grub
2638[17:18:38] <JordiGH> oh god the right direction
2639[17:18:59] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: LVM does allow you to bring up LVs as read-only
2640[17:19:04] <dondelelcaro> SerajewelKS: you don't actually have to make a new LV
2641[17:19:11] <dondelelcaro> SerajewelKS: you can just pvmove once you join the vgs
2642[17:19:35] <dondelelcaro> (assuming you want to move all of the lvs from one pv to another)
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2644[17:20:04] <dondelelcaro> (if you don't, use pvmove -n LV pv1 pv2
2645[17:20:06] <SerajewelKS> dondelelcaro: yeah. he already created a new LUKS container with a new LVM PV. there's many ways to skin this cat.
2646[17:20:45] <dondelelcaro> yeah; the nice thing about doing pvmove is that you don't have to make it read-only, and it's atomic
2647[17:20:47] <SerajewelKS> right now the primary issue seems to be that the SATA-USB bridge he has is defective
2648[17:20:53] <SerajewelKS> true
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2650[17:21:08] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: new plan. while i eat lunch, dondelelcaro is going to help you because he's better at stuff. :)
2651[17:21:13] <dondelelcaro> SerajewelKS: heh
2652[17:21:16] <dondelelcaro> then we can switch off
2653[17:21:30] <JordiGH> Tag-team, yay.
2654[17:21:40] <JordiGH> But I need to find some hardware to read this ssd first.
2655[17:21:50] <JordiGH> Hm, I wonder if the repair guy on the corner has something I can borrow...
2656[17:21:52] <dondelelcaro> JordiGH: you *might* try re-plugging everyhting
2657[17:22:01] <JordiGH> Tried.
2658[17:22:11] <dondelelcaro> JordiGH: and you plugged in the SSD first, then plugged in the USB?
2659[17:22:17] <SerajewelKS> at least this isn't windows, which, even if you dd the whole damn disk, it will refuse to boot until you rebuild the BCD
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2662[17:22:25] <JordiGH> dondelelcaro: Yeah...
2663[17:22:33] <dondelelcaro> JordiGH: hrm. yuck
2664[17:22:48] <dondelelcaro> JordiGH: is this a bridge with a built-in cable?
2665[17:22:51] <JordiGH> I thought the problem is that I wasn't using the right cable shape: replaced-url
2666[17:23:06] <JordiGH> It's a little box you're supposed to unscrew and stick the ssd inside, then screw it back up.
2667[17:23:11] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: i like the "sensitive content" warning
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2669[17:23:26] <JordiGH> warning: computer guts
2670[17:23:28] <SerajewelKS> this USB port is too saucy for my eyes
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2673[17:24:32] <dondelelcaro> JordiGH: ah, cool; yeah, it looks like a usb micro 3.0 b; pretty common cable
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2678[17:25:26] <SerajewelKS> dondelelcaro: honestly, one approach i was considering was just dd the partition over, then cryptsetup resize + pvresize + resize2fs
2679[17:25:26] <JordiGH> So common nobody in the office knew what it was so we ordered a new one off the internet.
2680[17:25:53] <dondelelcaro> JordiGH: heh; it's basically what newer external drives come with
2681[17:25:53] <JordiGH> But I guess the problem wasn't the cable, just that the bridge itself is broken. I was going to blame no support in Linux, but macOS also had no idea what to do with it.
2682[17:25:53] <SerajewelKS> pvmove is probably safer still though
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2684[17:26:24] <SerajewelKS> mac doesn't know what to do with LUKS though
2685[17:26:24] <dondelelcaro> SerajewelKS: yeah; lots of ways to do it that'll work. [And really, it probably won't make a difference.]
2686[17:26:39] <JordiGH> SerajewelKS: I think macOS had other problems before LUKS.
2687[17:26:51] <SerajewelKS> dondelelcaro: i even had the idea, just copy that partition over at the same size, make another LUKS partition + PV and lvextend into that PV :)
2688[17:26:58] <SerajewelKS> probably the ugliest one
2689[17:27:29] <dondelelcaro> JordiGH: but yeah, since you've tried re-plugging everything (including the SSD), I'd bet that the bridge isn't happy
2690[17:28:08] <dondelelcaro> JordiGH: some of those bridges don't work particularly well. [I've had a few times where I've had to resort to putting a drive into a real SATA controller on some other machine.]
2691[17:28:25] <SerajewelKS> dondelelcaro: nc!
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2694[17:29:42] <SerajewelKS> i did that before i got a SATA-USB bridge. use two machines, nc to send from the source to the dest. also provides nice isolation so you don't accidentally copy in the wrong direction. and with a gigabit link, it's not really any slower.
2695[17:29:58] <JordiGH> dondelelcaro: do you think I should try getting a new bridge or the bridge method in general is hopeless?
2696[17:30:09] <SerajewelKS> a bridge will work fine
2697[17:30:28] <SerajewelKS> if the bridge works, anyway. i've done many HD migrations using my bridges.
2698[17:30:37] <dondelelcaro> JordiGH: I think a bridge should work
2699[17:30:51] <dondelelcaro> the only time I've had serious problems with them, the drives were failing anyway
2700[17:30:58] <JordiGH> Okay, let me see if the guy on the corner shop has one.
2701[17:30:59] <JordiGH> :O
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2703[17:31:15] <JordiGH> My drive works fine when plugged into a real stinkpad, though!
2704[17:31:30] <dondelelcaro> JordiGH: yeah, it's probably the bridge then
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2708[17:34:35] <SerajewelKS> okay, i'm out for a few hours. good luck, JordiGH
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2711[17:35:14] <JordiGH> Thanks.
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2737[17:47:09] <JordiGH> Oh shit.
2738[17:47:14] <JordiGH> This is distressing.
2739[17:47:19] <JordiGH> The old stinkpad won't boot now.
2740[17:47:52] <JordiGH> Maybe the drive really was on its last legs.
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2744[17:53:32] <JordiGH> Ah, it booted, who knows what was happening.
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2756[18:00:03] <jelly> SerajewelKS, there is no cryptsetup resize step, apparently luks does not track device size at all. You just bring it up and it has new size (you forgot lvextend tho)
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2771[18:04:13] <kruug> Switching my DE, is it more preferred to reinstall Debian, or can I easily install new and then uninstall old?
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2773[18:04:54] <greycat> Just install the new desktop environment.
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2775[18:05:16] <greycat> You don't even need to remove the other one, unless you're low on disk space, or you simply HATE it.
2776[18:05:51] <jhutchins_wk> You can have ALL the DEs!
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2799[18:16:53] <bug> if you uninstall a de, be very careful of 'apt autoremove' afterwards. it might want to remove xorg, your dm, and other things.
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2816[18:25:26] <BCMM> kruug: remember that if you want the same experience that you'd get by installing the DE through the debian installer, you should install the *task* for that DE
2817[18:25:39] <BCMM> not just apt install just the desktop shell
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2821[18:27:21] <bug> i think 'tasksel' reruns that installer dialog.
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2826[18:28:56] <kruug> BCMM, bug: thanks. tasksel seems to have worked.
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2835[18:32:49] <maestroo0> im trying to compile a c-file with "~/datastructures-v1.0.4/src/queue$ gcc -o queue queue.c" but I am getting "queue.c:3:19: fatal error: queue.h: No such file or directory; #include "queue.h"". I know the file is in another subfolder, so how do I get the compiler to understand that
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2837[18:33:31] <maestroo0> or maybe I have to do it the hard way and move all files into the same folder
2838[18:33:46] <BCMM> maestroo0: is this source directory perhaps supposed to be built with make, or something similar?
2839[18:34:00] <BCMM> as opposed to going through folders individually running gcc on stuff?
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2841[18:34:49] <maestroo0> BCMM: I don't know, I downloaded a folder from which I should test run a c-file, and now its giving me this error once I try to compile it
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2844[18:35:44] <BCMM> maestroo0: any build instructions in ~/datastructures-v1.0.4/?
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2846[18:36:33] <maestroo0> BCMM: Ah I think I can use "I" flag with gcc to include them
2847[18:36:45] <BCMM> maestroo0: any files called readme or build or install? is there a Makefile?
2848[18:37:05] <BCMM> at least check if there's a build system already in place...
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2850[18:37:30] <maestroo0> BCMM: Yeah there is a readme in my native language, they say I can use the "-I" flag with gcc to include all header files
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2865[18:44:05] <engys> hi any chance to get a working libpng12.so.0 on stretch?
2866[18:44:18] <greycat> just copy it from jessie
2867[18:44:34] <petn-randall> engys: What are you trying to accomplish?
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2869[18:45:01] <greycat> Probably "run a program that uses libpng without having to rewrite the entire god damned source code."
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2871[18:45:48] <greycat> The API changed, so just recompiling won't work.
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2881[18:48:50] <engys> petn-randall, greycat: yes maybe the whole idea to run a jessie static binded program on stretch is not the best
2882[18:49:12] <greycat> If it were really statically linked, you would not need libpng.so.*
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2884[18:49:40] <greycat> That said, I use my built-on-libpng12 version of xv from previous releases, and it works just fine, using jessie's libpng12 on stretch.
2885[18:50:56] <jelly> mine's built against... um,
2886[18:50:58] <jelly> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6), libjpeg62, libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.8rel), libtiff4, libx11-6, zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1)
2887[18:51:15] <greycat> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14), libjpeg62-turbo (>= 1.3.1), libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.13-4), libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3), libx11-6, zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4)
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2889[18:51:40] <jelly> that's... weird
2890[18:51:42] <greycat> the zlib1g part is interesting
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2893[18:52:32] <engys> maybe the build missing libpng? I am not sure what qtcreator really do when building static programs
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2896[18:52:53] <jelly> how did you get it to use symbols from so new glibc and newer libjpeg and libpng and libtiff, but older zlib
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2898[18:53:04] <greycat> I don't know.
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2900[18:53:31] <jelly> I was probably on testing or unstable back then
2901[18:53:39] <jelly> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 965920 Jun 5 2006 /usr/bin/xv
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2903[18:53:46] <greycat> At this point I can't even say which computer I built it on, let alone which version of Debian it had at the time, but I thought it was jessie.
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2906[18:54:14] <jelly> my build is quite a bit older
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2908[18:54:20] <greycat> ,v zlib1g
2909[18:54:21] <judd> Package: zlib1g on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:1.2.7.dfsg-13; jessie: 1:1.2.8.dfsg-2+b1; buster: 1:1.2.8.dfsg-5; sid: 1:1.2.8.dfsg-5; stretch: 1:1.2.8.dfsg-5
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2911[18:54:42] <jelly> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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2914[18:55:01] <jelly> Version: 3.10a-jumbo20050501-1+jelly.0
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2917[18:56:07] <greycat> Version: 3.10a-20+gw1
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2920[18:56:34] <isutoshi> Hi everyone. For some reason mdadm on one of my servers (Stretch) has added an extra "ARRAY /dev/md/0 ..." line in my /etc/mdadm.conf. How can I do permanent changes to this file from within Busybox?
2921[18:56:57] <devrikx> Complimenting my previous post - I've taken the liberty to use the wireless script found at the ubuntu forums for some extra debug info: As non-root: replaced-url
2922[18:57:06] <engys> greycat: I guess I missed -qt-libpng while building static qt
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2924[18:57:37] <jelly> ,v libpng12-0
2925[18:57:39] <judd> Package: libpng12-0 on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.2.49-1+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 1.2.49-1+deb7u2; jessie-security: 1.2.50-2+deb8u2; jessie: 1.2.50-2+deb8u3
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2928[18:58:37] <jelly> engys, you can add jessie repos back if you need one thing from there. They _should_ not contain any packages with a version number greater than what's present in stretch
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2931[18:59:15] <jelly> mixing repos from previous releases typically does not result in a horrible unmanageable mess
2932[19:00:09] <jelly> some tools gets confused when you do that, debsecan STILL thinks my now-stretch-only machine is still jessie
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2935[19:02:24] <engys> jelly: I will try this .. damn I need a local repo =)
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2937[19:02:45] <jelly> local repos don't get magical security updates, but jessie does
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2941[19:03:24] <jelly> watch out when it begins to be LTS
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2945[19:04:24] <kruug> Ok, I re-ran `tasksel` and chose KDE. It went through the progress bar window, but now I don't see kde.desktop in /usr/share/xsessions. I'm trying to set it to login to KDE by default.
2946[19:04:24] <jelly> LTS people sometimes release faster than debian security team, and sometimes their versions happen to be larger than lts+1 release
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2948[19:05:00] <engys> jelly: only to add things not to replace stuff
2949[19:05:01] <jelly> kruug, it's called "plasma"
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2951[19:05:18] <jelly> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2364 Vel 14 00:03 /usr/share/xsessions/plasma.desktop
2952[19:05:19] * kruug facepalm.
2953[19:05:22] <kruug> thanks jelly
2954[19:05:42] <jelly> crap, who changed my LC_TIME
2955[19:05:58] <engys> greycat: and yes it is net 100% static -> A static Qt build will only link Qt libraries statically, nothing else.
2956[19:05:59] <jelly> s/Vel/Feb/
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2960[19:08:35] <petn-randall> isutoshi: It's a config file, just edit it. It doesn't get changed by any system services.
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2967[19:10:42] <isutoshi> petn-randall: It gets rewritten on reboot. But I got a suggestion elsewhere to boot off a live image to be able to use update-initramfs, I think that'll work.
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2984[19:15:58] <jhutchins_wk> isutoshi: You're editing the file on the disk, but it's reading the copy in the initramfs which has not been updated.
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2988[19:16:52] <isutoshi> jhutchins: Correct. I haven't learned this yet, I'm learning as I go...
2989[19:17:39] <isutoshi> s/haven't/hadn't/
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3025[19:30:42] <engys> greycat,jelly: thanks I downloaded the deb file from the Debian website and used dpkg to install libpng12 and now everything works -> unbelievable that this is the only dependency that was missing
3026[19:30:55] <pseudonymous> hey - I can't seem to get a USB image which is registered as bootable on a mac (using refind from a USB key). WHen entering refind, no matter how often I refresh the USB key with the debian image on it isn't shown. Anyone got an idea ?
3027[19:31:36] <jhutchins_wk> pseudonymous: What mac?
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3031[19:33:27] <pseudonymous> jhutchins_wk: Mac mini, late 2012 (I think it's also called a Mac Mini 6,1)
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3034[19:34:10] <jhutchins_wk> !mac mini
3035[19:34:10] <dpkg> The Mac Mini is a small desktop computer produced by Apple Inc. Contains either a PowerPC G4 or Intel Core, Core 2 or Core i5/i7 CPU. replaced-url
3036[19:34:34] <jhutchins_wk> I haven't done linux on a mac for ten years, I'm not much help.
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3040[19:37:02] <pseudonymous> replaced-url
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3047[19:39:34] <ksk> pseudonymous: that is a correct way of doing it.
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3052[19:43:00] <thow_> stretch ignores dummy entries on /etc/network/interfaces and "ifup dummy0" replies "cannot find device dummy0". (dummy module is loaded)
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3054[19:43:39] <jelly> thow_, does "ip link show" show a dummy0?
3055[19:43:39] <thow_> why?
3056[19:43:48] <thow_> no.
3057[19:43:52] <thow_> it doesn't show dummy0
3058[19:43:59] <jelly> then that's why
3059[19:44:07] <thow_> ?
3060[19:44:12] <jelly> interface is not present.
3061[19:44:24] <thow_> lovely. how can i configure dummy0 interface to be started at boot?
3062[19:44:31] <thow_> i thought it was on /etc/network/interfaces
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3066[19:45:31] <jelly> presumably there's a tunable to enable one or more dummy interfaces under /sys or as kernel module parameters or in the documentation
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3070[19:45:56] <kruug> Not sure if this is the best place, but I can't get my screen resolution to go above 1024x768. It's a VM on ESXi. Any suggestions for where to start troubleshooting?
3071[19:46:03] <thow_> i've been googling for a couple of hours and i don't find anything specific to debian :(
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3074[19:46:34] <jelly> thow_, why does it have to be debian specific?
3075[19:47:10] <jelly> thow_, replaced-url
3076[19:47:54] <jelly> thow_, all I read was "modinfo dummy" and tried the first obvious thing
3077[19:48:03] <thow_> because dummy interfaces on redhat and centos are configured at boot up.
3078[19:48:25] <thow_> yeah, i did a modinfo dummy many hours ago
3079[19:48:33] <jelly> redhat and centos have a different implementation of ifup/ifdown than debian
3080[19:48:51] <thow_> oh, then ifup implementation is specific on debian, right?
3081[19:48:51] <thow_> thanks
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3085[19:49:42] <thow_> so, any clue how to configure dummy interfaces on startup?
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3088[19:50:25] <jelly> put modules you want to load in /etc/modules; put options in /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf or similar
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3094[19:51:12] <jelly> that won't configure the interfaces, but will create them, as seen in the paste
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3097[19:51:45] <jelly> presumably then you'll be able to configure them the usual way after they exist
3098[19:51:48] <thow_> module is loaded.
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3100[19:51:50] <thow_> and configured.
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3103[19:52:25] <jelly> thow_, but the ifaces still fail to exist?
3104[19:52:29] <thow_> if i set up the dummy interface with ip link.... it works. i just want to know if there's any way to do it automatically
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3108[19:53:40] <jelly> thow_, do they exist in "ip l" after loading the module with right options?
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3111[19:55:10] <hexhaxtron> How can I install gcc-5 without breaking the system?
3112[19:55:32] <greycat> compile it from source, install in /usr/local
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3114[19:55:35] <thow_> no, they don't appear.
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3116[19:56:05] <greycat> or /opt/gcc-5/ or whatever you want that's part of the local namespace
3117[19:56:14] <hexhaxtron> I'll try.
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3121[19:58:08] <jelly> thow_, well they appeared here on stretch. Which debian release are you using.
3122[20:00:39] <thow_> Debian GNU/Linux 9.4 (stretch)
3123[20:00:45] <thow_> ok. i made some progres...
3124[20:01:44] <thow_> if i have only dummy0 on network/interfaces, it works. it i have more than one it doesn't work (yes, i have the numdummies=xxx on the modprobe file)
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3166[20:19:22] <pseudonymous> fwiw: got the mac mini (6,1 -- late 2012) to successfully identify a Debian install USB. I had to : (1) use a usb with REFIND (check the web page, they link to a specific image) and (2) use a Debian netinst usb which I copied to a USB using "cat debian-xxx-netinst.iso > /dev/sdX; sync; echo DONE"... Funny how it always fails with non-netinst images..
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3169[20:19:55] <jhutchins_wk> kruug: You probably need to install the VMWare extensions. It's seeing the virtuall GPU as an unsupported device and running with the VESA drivers.
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3171[20:20:48] <kruug> jhutchins_wk: those are already installed, I think it's the video memory.
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3173[20:21:04] <jhutchins_wk> pseudonymous: There are known issues with the live images.
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3176[20:22:10] <pseudonymous> jhutchins_wk: yea.. I wish they weren't available.. Makes everything quite confusing..
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3182[20:24:35] <n4dir> not sure how one runs into debian-live at all (when it comes to installing). debian.org, #debian IRC and probably the non-official forums.debian.net won't recommend it. - It takes quite a bit of work to run into that confusion, no?
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3186[20:25:23] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: how goes it?
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3193[20:28:00] <SonySebixxon> Hello! I've got a bit of a problem with apt-get, been trying to fix it with google, unfortunately failed. Here's terminal output: replaced-url
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3197[20:28:55] <bug> n4dir, i've run/installed debian live+non-free without problems on occasion. what issues are you having with it?
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3199[20:29:34] <jelly> SonySebixxon, rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*winehq*, wait a couple hours and try apt-get update again to see if their repo was fixed
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3201[20:30:18] <SonySebixxon> alright
3202[20:30:33] <SonySebixxon> No such file or directory
3203[20:30:51] <jelly> good, nothing to delete then
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3206[20:32:11] <n4dir> bug: what i said is that pretty much anyone will recommend against using debian-live to install debian, not that i would have got any issues.
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3214[20:34:12] <JordiGH> SerajewelKS: Just bought a new sata bridge from guy across the street, seems to work!
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3216[20:34:20] <JordiGH> Well, on my personal laptop.
3217[20:34:26] <greycat> Installing from the debian-live images has been historically problematic.
3218[20:34:26] <JordiGH> Let me now try to plug it into the target.
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3226[20:38:52] <JordiGH> Alrighty!
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3228[20:38:59] <JordiGH> Both drives are now in the target machine...
3229[20:40:05] <JordiGH> And I seem to have lvm mappers for both, all nice and decrypted.
3230[20:40:17] <JordiGH> Uh... so now the moment of truth.
3231[20:40:19] <JordiGH> What do I do?
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3234[20:40:59] <SerajewelKS> lvdisplay
3235[20:41:06] <SerajewelKS> can you clearly identify the old and new volumes?
3236[20:42:28] <JordiGH> The story so far: replaced-url
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3239[20:43:01] <SerajewelKS> so you should want to: dd if=/dev/chloe-vg/root of=/dev/chloe2-vg/root
3240[20:43:05] <SerajewelKS> you can also use ddrescue
3241[20:43:11] <SerajewelKS> (it shows you nice progress information and an ETA)
3242[20:43:19] <JordiGH> You think that'll work?
3243[20:43:26] <JordiGH> Okay!
3244[20:43:26] <SerajewelKS> yes
3245[20:43:28] <JordiGH> Here we go!
3246[20:43:43] <jelly> that's safe in the filesystems are not mounted (rw)
3247[20:43:45] <SerajewelKS> neither are mounted, right?
3248[20:43:47] <jelly> if*
3249[20:44:01] <jelly> pv ftw
3250[20:44:05] <jelly> progress bars!
3251[20:44:14] <jelly> pv < old > new
3252[20:44:16] <SerajewelKS> pvmove was also an option yes, but where we are now this is easier
3253[20:44:25] <SerajewelKS> oh, pv. yes, that's nice as well.
3254[20:44:25] <jelly> not pvmove.
3255[20:44:26] <JordiGH> Yep all unmounted!
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3257[20:44:43] <jelly> oh ddrescue has progress, too
3258[20:44:45] <SerajewelKS> i prefer ddrescue when doing drive images. pv shows you a bar; ddrescue shows you a bit more.
3259[20:44:47] <ertes-w> hi… is there a script-friendly way to use dpkg-reconfigure?
3260[20:45:03] <JordiGH> What package has ddrescue?
3261[20:45:08] <JordiGH> ddrescueview? gddrescue?
3262[20:45:15] <SerajewelKS> gddrescue
3263[20:45:41] <SerajewelKS> when using a mapfile with ddrescue, you can even CTRL+C and resume it later (using the same mapfile) and it tolerates errors much better
3264[20:45:49] <SerajewelKS> dd/pv will just quit and barf on the screen
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3267[20:46:14] <JordiGH> okokok
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3269[20:46:28] <jelly> ertes-w, man 7 debconf, will tell you about noninteractive frontend, how to set the frontend via enviroment vars, and how to preseed answers
3270[20:46:47] <SerajewelKS> ddrescue would be: ddrescue -d /dev/chloe-vg/root /dev/chloe2-vg/root /somewhere/to/save/the/mapfile
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3273[20:47:12] <JordiGH> Wait, before I dd anything, how do I read-only the source.
3274[20:47:21] <jelly> oh, dpkg-reconfigure has a --frontend= now too
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3276[20:47:36] <jelly> JordiGH, if it's unmounted you don't have to
3277[20:47:41] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: lvchange -p r /dev/chloe-vg/root
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3279[20:47:54] <SerajewelKS> jelly: it's as a safety measure to make sure he copies in the right direction
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3282[20:48:11] <jelly> that's too safe for me
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3284[20:48:20] <SerajewelKS> :P
3285[20:48:22] <ertes-w> jelly: thanks!
3286[20:48:38] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: after that, you can try mounting it read-write to verify
3287[20:48:48] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: mount should complain that it can't write, and is mounting it read-only instead
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3289[20:48:50] <JordiGH> jelly: Never too safe.
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3291[20:49:05] <Guest78404> wait
3292[20:49:21] <Guest78404> :)
3293[20:49:21] <jelly> JordiGH, you do have backups, right?? :-)
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3296[20:49:49] <JordiGH> jelly: I'm creating it right now!
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3298[20:50:27] <JordiGH> All of my work is already pushed to remote repos; it's mostly configs and personalisation that I'm trying to preserve here. Nothing essential, just things that would be annoying to redo.
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3301[20:50:47] <JordiGH> SerajewelKS: Yeah, thanks, that definitely seems read-only.
3302[20:50:58] <JordiGH> I wonder if I could remount the live usb r/w
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3304[20:52:22] <JordiGH> SerajewelKS: Is that mapper file going to fit into the overlay fs on / ?
3305[20:52:40] <JordiGH> Is the overlay just RAM-as-disk?
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3308[20:53:26] <jelly> it is, unless you specifically prepare a partition for persistence and boot with correct kernel command line options
3309[20:54:08] <SerajewelKS> sorry, i got a phone call
3310[20:54:34] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: it will fit just fine
3311[20:55:03] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: it should be well under 2kb unless you have a lot of bad blocks on the source disk. it stores byte ranges of "not copied" stuff.
3312[20:55:17] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: assuming no errors, there will only be a single range. "where we are now" to "end of disk"
3313[20:55:33] <SerajewelKS> so it'll basically be a text file with a few lines
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3315[20:55:57] <JordiGH> replaced-url
3316[20:56:09] <SerajewelKS> you don't need it to persist if you aren't planning to shut down the machine in the middle of the copy
3317[20:56:32] <SerajewelKS> (if you do need to, you can always copy it to some removable storage before you shut down)
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3319[20:56:44] <SerajewelKS> (or you can just restart the copy from the beginning in that case)
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3322[20:57:08] <JordiGH> Hmmm... "output exists and is not a regular file"
3323[20:57:15] <JordiGH> Well, that's what I want, not a regular file!
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3325[20:57:37] <JordiGH> Says I should --force
3326[20:57:40] <JordiGH> So I will!
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3328[20:58:27] <SerajewelKS> yeah, the typical use case for ddrescue is to image a failing hard disk to a file (not another device)
3329[20:58:45] <JordiGH> There we go, progress bar.
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3331[20:58:57] <SerajewelKS> so it has a few sanity checks to that end
3332[20:59:01] <JordiGH> 135 MB/s
3333[20:59:05] <JordiGH> Is that slow?
3334[20:59:20] <SerajewelKS> that's actually.... quite fast, for writing data
3335[20:59:28] <jelly> slow for what? ssd? hdd?
3336[20:59:31] <SerajewelKS> reading, i can usually pull 200-300MB but writing is usually in the 30-60 range
3337[20:59:39] <JordiGH> Says 27 minutes remaining.
3338[21:00:02] <JordiGH> jelly: One ssd into another, source via a usb 3 sata bridge plugged into a usb 2 port.
3339[21:00:27] <jelly> that's pretty much impossible for usb2 connectivity
3340[21:00:43] <JordiGH> So is it really a usb 3 port that happens to be shaped like a usb 2 port?
3341[21:00:53] <JordiGH> I don't really understand usb and I wish it would stop bragging about how u it is.
3342[21:00:59] <ertes-w> is there a tutorial on how to do fully unattended debian installations using debconf/dpkg?
3343[21:01:01] <SerajewelKS> USB 3 and USB 2 ports have the same shape, don't they?
3344[21:01:11] <JordiGH> afaict, usb 3 can be shaped however the hell it wants.
3345[21:01:12] <jelly> usb 3 are blue. Blue is not a shape.
3346[21:01:13] <SerajewelKS> the telltale sign is usually the color of the port
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3349[21:01:41] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: don't confuse the version with the connector type
3350[21:01:44] <jelly> or, they can also be yellow, usb 3.1 with extra power available or "powered-off power"
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3352[21:01:57] <SerajewelKS> jelly: i forget, what is red?
3353[21:02:13] <jelly> I don't know. Red is too new for me, don't have any
3354[21:02:13] <JordiGH> SerajewelKS: Btw, are you on Masto? I just realised that you might be. Aren't you that fox-like avatar thing?
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3356[21:02:34] <SerajewelKS> jelly: i wonder if red is actually just USB3. my gaming laptop has a few red ports, but the decor of the laptop is all red.
3357[21:02:46] <SerajewelKS> so maybe they wanted to indicate that they were USB3 but didn't want blue ports to clash with the red design
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3360[21:02:56] <jelly> in fact I'm only now getting usb 3.0 for my main system at home, because raid1 rebuild on usb2 is painful
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3365[21:03:38] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: what's masto
3366[21:03:39] <jelly> also because there was a $6 usb3 controller.
3367[21:03:44] <JordiGH> SerajewelKS: Mastodon.
3368[21:04:04] <SerajewelKS> i've heard of that but don't recall what it is
3369[21:04:05] <jelly> mastodos is a kind-of federated twitter replacement
3370[21:04:11] <SerajewelKS> ah
3371[21:04:13] <jelly> don*
3372[21:04:16] <SerajewelKS> i'm not on it
3373[21:04:18] <JordiGH> Who is the person I'm thinking of...
3374[21:04:31] <SerajewelKS> my go-to avatar everywhere is commander keen
3375[21:04:40] <jelly> it has a 500 character limit! What luxury
3376[21:04:45] <JordiGH> I already am following a commander keen on masto.
3377[21:04:57] <JordiGH> jelly: That's just a convention; instances can lift it.
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3382[21:05:14] <JordiGH> GNU Social (not Masto, but same network) can have essentially full-fledged blog posts.
3383[21:05:15] <SerajewelKS> twitter is up to 240 now, it feels like i can write a whole book
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3386[21:05:53] <JordiGH> Sometimes in my Masto feed I get giant posts and they almost always come from GNU Social.
3387[21:05:54] <jelly> and here we have irc with what, 300 or so characters per line
3388[21:06:01] <SerajewelKS> the three times a year i actually write on twitter, anyway
3389[21:06:02] <JordiGH> But we have a lot more lines.
3390[21:06:28] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: is this an ext volume, btw?
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3394[21:08:03] <JordiGH> ext4 yeah
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3397[21:08:35] <n4dir> speaking of alternative social networks, the debian subproject freedombox has quite some interesting ideas. "leaving the cloud +debian" will give a good link to wiki.debian.org
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3400[21:09:25] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: so when it's done copying, do this: resize2fs /dev/chloe2-vg/root
3401[21:09:37] <SerajewelKS> this will extend the ext filesystem to fill the device
3402[21:09:40] <ertes-w> ok, let me ask a more specific question just to get started… then i can probably generalise from that by myself: on jessie how do i properly do the equivalent of (echo n | dpkg-reconfigure dash)?
3403[21:09:51] <JordiGH> SerajewelKS: Alrighty!
3404[21:09:58] <n4dir> we.riseup.net is a good, but deserted social network (last time i checked. and it ain't distributed, iirc).
3405[21:10:01] <JordiGH> And then make sure grub is installed...
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3407[21:10:31] <jelly> ertes-w, what is that supposed to do?
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3409[21:10:58] <JordiGH> n4dir: 1.5 million users on Masto, 3 million if you count the Japanese instance with the hand-drawn kiddie porn that got mostly defederated.
3410[21:11:03] <SerajewelKS> jelly: i've had the idea of creating a peer-to-peer social network. kind of like mastodon, but without dedicated servers; just a desktop program that connects directly to other instances of the program (your connections) and pushes/pulls content directly.
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3415[21:11:20] <ertes-w> the desired effect is to relink /bin/sh to bash instead of dash: "Use dash as the default system shell (/bin/sh)? n"
3416[21:11:24] <ertes-w> jelly: ^
3417[21:11:28] <JordiGH> SerajewelKS: Didn't pocket computers kill p2p?
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3419[21:11:41] <jelly> SerajewelKS, you're reinventing skype (the original p2p system)
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3421[21:11:50] <n4dir> JordiGH: yeah, for now i will stick to mastadon. Only some pointes that the future might offer good stuff, if users want that.
3422[21:11:53] <SerajewelKS> jelly: skype has no persistent posts though?
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3425[21:12:03] <greycat> ertes-w: have you considered simply: ln -sf bash /bin/sh
3426[21:12:13] <jelly> SerajewelKS, it kept history forever, so... kinda?
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3428[21:12:25] <ertes-w> greycat: i have to answer quite a few questions like this one, and i don't feel particularly comfortable piping my answers into a UI
3429[21:12:33] <n4dir> SerajewelKS: retroshare ?
3430[21:12:38] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: not necessarily, i have a few ideas for how the smartphone app could work in a p2p system
3431[21:12:40] <jelly> ertes-w, ln -fs bash /bin/sh
3432[21:12:54] <jelly> ha
3433[21:12:58] <ertes-w> jelly: ^
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3439[21:13:07] <SerajewelKS> jelly: i only recall one-to-one messages though, not the kind of "share this photo of my cat with all of my friends forever" stuff. also, skype is not open source.
3440[21:13:15] <jelly> dpkg, tell ertes-w about preseed
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3442[21:13:30] <SerajewelKS> n4dir: this might be what i'm after, yeah
3443[21:13:34] <SerajewelKS> if it's idiot-proof
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3445[21:13:45] <ertes-w> jelly: ah, that looks more like what i need, thanks!
3446[21:14:15] <n4dir> i recall retroshare as pretty idiot-proof, compared to i2p or onion or such. Onion has an interesting forum-like software though (iirc: syndie). SerajewelKS
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3448[21:14:34] <n4dir> s/onion/i2p. sorry
3449[21:14:54] <SerajewelKS> my wife's side of the family is starting to get a bit upset with facebook and that got me thinking that a truly decentralized alternative could be good for them. maybe this project already accomplished that.
3450[21:15:09] <jelly> usaiblity is important. Anyone can make a distributed hash table.
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3453[21:15:44] <n4dir> SerajewelKS: look at retroshare. I think that would work very well for such a need. It is a bit too long ago, and i can't say much more, but it might be worth a try.
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3456[21:16:07] <SerajewelKS> n4dir: do you know if the android app can "pair" with a running instance elsewhere? e.g. can my phone and my computer share a single identity within the network?
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3458[21:16:24] <n4dir> sorry, i know no nothing of mobile phones. :-)
3459[21:16:33] <SerajewelKS> okay. i'll look into it later.
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3461[21:16:50] <n4dir> look at "leaving the cloud too". perhaps there is something.
3462[21:16:55] <phogg> SerajewelKS: In general the answer is "maybe" depending on what identity mechanism you're using and how hard you want to work at it.
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3466[21:17:31] <n4dir> SerajewelKS: stop prism ; or break prism; or similar. That site lists a few good choices too.
3467[21:17:32] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: so. when you're done with the copy, here are the steps: (1) detach the source drive (2) resize2fs on the new volume (3) vgrename to restore the original VG name (4) mount the new root volume (5) chroot into the new root volume (6) install grub from there (7) reboot and pray it comes up
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3471[21:18:15] <SerajewelKS> phogg: basically i wouldn't want my family to have to add both my desktop and my phone. i would want them to appear as a single identity.
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3475[21:18:40] <jelly> JordiGH, I have a nit to pick. If you're using lvm, there's no need to resize LV to max size right away. Keeping it smaller and leaving some (or lots of) free space in VG enables snapshots, and growing can be done online when needed
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3478[21:19:00] <SerajewelKS> jelly: the LV is already created max size
3479[21:19:11] <jelly> the filesystem isn't.
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3481[21:19:21] <jelly> so it can be shrunk.
3482[21:19:23] <SerajewelKS> right. so we could shrink the LV instead.
3483[21:19:24] <phogg> SerajewelKS: use kerberos and log in to the same account from both systems. Auth everything with your kerb token and you are the same person.
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3485[21:19:38] <SerajewelKS> kerberos :/
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3489[21:19:51] <phogg> SerajewelKS: good luck getting your android apps to understand kerberos, though.
3490[21:20:01] <phogg> Might require finding or making alternatives.
3491[21:20:11] <jelly> phogg, it's 2010s! We use oauth2 now for SSO.
3492[21:20:11] <jrabe> n4dir, replaced-url
3493[21:20:14] <phogg> SerajewelKS: That's one way. There are a lot of ways you could do it.
3494[21:20:16] <SerajewelKS> i put kerberos in the same bucket as anything ldap: things that should be simple but seem to be infuriating time sinks for no particular reason
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3496[21:20:20] <n4dir> jrabe: yup, that's it.
3497[21:20:21] <phogg> jelly: yeah, that's another.
3498[21:20:28] <JordiGH> SerajewelKS: I need to also mount the boot partition, right?
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3501[21:20:44] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: probably. within the root
3502[21:20:54] <SerajewelKS> so: mount the new root volume at /mnt/target
3503[21:21:02] <SerajewelKS> then mount the boot volume at /mnt/target/boot
3504[21:21:02] <phogg> SerajewelKS: setting up and running single sign on infrastructure is hard no matter what kind you try. Choose your preferred kind of pain.
3505[21:21:05] <SerajewelKS> THEN chroot in and install grub
3506[21:21:13] <JordiGH> Is that just grub-install?
3507[21:21:17] <SerajewelKS> phogg: i'm just using LDAP for contact management, not SSO
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3509[21:21:27] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: grub-install $BOOTDEVICE
3510[21:21:30] <JordiGH> 6m remaining says here.
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3512[21:21:41] <phogg> SerajewelKS: Use x509 certs for authentication and install the same one on both devices. Still requires cooperation from client and server apps.
3513[21:21:43] <SerajewelKS> phogg: it's still frustrating to do anything at all
3514[21:22:22] <SerajewelKS> i think it has something to do with LDAP tools having terrible diagnostics, so when anything goes wrong you have basically no information about why
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3517[21:23:02] <jelly> SerajewelKS, that's just openldap, I hear others are nicer.
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3519[21:23:12] <phogg> SerajewelKS: LDAP is incredibly simple so there isn't much in the diagnostics area that makes sense to have. You're supposed to wrap it in something that makes it friendlier.
3520[21:23:40] <SerajewelKS> it seems simple but i always manage to find the edge case where it isn't
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3522[21:23:53] <phogg> pretty much all LDAP daemons apart from openldap do more than "just ldap" out of the box, so they're simultaneously less flexible, less simple and easier.
3523[21:24:10] <jelly> calling anything based on X.500 as "incredibly simple" is crazy
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3527[21:24:29] * jelly throws a book of OIDs at phogg
3528[21:24:49] * phogg deflects it into a buggy ASN.1 parser
3529[21:24:59] <jelly> is there any other kind
3530[21:25:11] <phogg> I really hope so
3531[21:25:47] * jelly looks at CVE history of net-snmp and various nfs
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3533[21:26:32] <jelly> because bashing openssl is old
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3537[21:27:56] <JordiGH> Finished!
3538[21:28:09] <JordiGH> Okay, now to resize...
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3541[21:29:21] <SerajewelKS> resizing should be pretty near instantanious
3542[21:29:26] <SerajewelKS> instantaneous too
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3547[21:30:07] <n4dir> cli audio player mocp: with xmms2, i do "xmms2 play", and it starts the server and starts to play (for example from a command prompt). Can i do the same with mocp ? if i do "mocp -p", it complains the server would not be running.
3548[21:30:20] <JordiGH> SerajewelKS: Uh-oh, tells me to run e2fsck first.
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3550[21:30:47] <jelly> JordiGH, what does?
3551[21:31:05] <JordiGH> resize2fs
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3554[21:31:18] <jelly> that's expected
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3556[21:31:29] <JordiGH> fsck -a?
3557[21:31:33] <SerajewelKS> it is? thought it was only expected if it wasn't unmounted cleanly
3558[21:31:34] <jelly> it likes to extend filesystems while they're mounted
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3560[21:31:42] <SerajewelKS> ah, right
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3562[21:32:08] <JordiGH> So, fsck -a /dev/chloe2-vg/root ?
3563[21:32:22] <jelly> no, don't fsck, just mount someplace and redo resize2fs
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3565[21:33:03] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: first remove the old drive and rename the VG though
3566[21:33:07] * jhutchins_wk considers changing the channel name to "LVM Encryption Tutorial".
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3569[21:33:23] <BCMM> just because it's non-obvious: as long as you're expanding the filesystem, you can use resize2fs on a mounted device
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3578[21:34:21] <JordiGH> SerajewelKS: Hm, just yanking out the old drive didn't remove it from lvm's radar.
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3581[21:34:59] <jelly> /o\
3582[21:35:10] <JordiGH> Now lvm is saying i/o error.
3583[21:35:13] <JordiGH> Well, no shit, there's nothing there.
3584[21:35:29] <jelly> JordiGH, you should have vgchange -an and echo 1 > /sys/block/sdX/device/delete
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3586[21:35:56] <jelly> to reach the "it is safe to remove your device now" state
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3589[21:36:48] <JordiGH> There is no sda in /sys/block except that main one.
3590[21:36:56] <JordiGH> The ripped out isn't there anymore.
3591[21:37:15] <jelly> yeah well
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3593[21:37:47] <jelly> doesn't really matter, is /dev/sda gone?
3594[21:37:53] <mispp_> hi! three questions: 1. will debian have lxd containers available anytime soon? 2. are most recent fixes for btrfs backported to standard 4.9 kernel? and 3. is it recommendable to use newer kernel than the one in the standard repos?
3595[21:38:27] <JordiGH> jelly: No, /dev/sda is there
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3597[21:38:39] <jelly> JordiGH, then tell the kernel to delete it
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3599[21:38:49] <JordiGH> But /dev/sda is the new one!
3600[21:39:01] <jelly> why are we talking about it then?!
3601[21:39:11] <JordiGH> I also probably need to cryptsetup luksClose the old thing.
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3603[21:40:03] <jelly> it's gone, dun matter. I'd change filesystem uuids, fix fstab and set up boot loader (and ignore lvm tools whining)
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3607[21:41:03] <jelly> you could also reboot the liveusb and have a somewhat clearer situation
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3610[21:42:26] <JordiGH> I've done some setup in RAM that I don't want to lose.
3611[21:42:32] <JordiGH> Hm, nothing major, though.
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3614[21:42:54] <JordiGH> Took me a while to figure out how to properly do the luksOpen and lvm setup manually.
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3617[21:43:09] <JordiGH> Eh, fine, let's reboot.
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3619[21:43:45] <bites> mispp_: there has been an effort to package lxd for debian, but that has been going on for over two years now. the snapd package is an alternative.
3620[21:43:47] <jelly> oh, do you have an unencrypted /boot or are you going to use luks support in boot loader?
3621[21:44:07] <JordiGH> /boot is unencrypted, yeah.
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3623[21:44:24] <jelly> good
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3626[21:45:55] <mispp_> bites: how does lxd work over snap?
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3628[21:46:33] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: vgscan should notice that it's gone
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3630[21:46:39] <JordiGH> SerajewelKS: Too late, rebooted.
3631[21:46:41] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: and then deactivate the VG in the kernel
3632[21:46:42] <bites> mispp_: tried it, had problems with lvm and some other bugs, switched my lxd hosts to ubuntu.
3633[21:46:44] <JordiGH> Gotta reinstall cryptsetup...
3634[21:46:44] <SerajewelKS> ah. that also works.
3635[21:47:06] <lihizu> hi everybody!
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3637[21:47:24] <bites> mispp_: i was using xfs on lvm for my containers. might be a better experience with zfs or butterfs.
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3639[21:47:39] <bites> butterfs? btrfs. it's late.
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3642[21:48:04] <mispp_> bites: understood with butter what you meant :)
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3648[21:48:45] <mispp_> well, i plan to migrate one server to btrfs. it would be used to run lxd and docker and whatnot
3649[21:48:54] <mispp_> so, there is where the questions are coming from
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3651[21:49:10] <mispp_> currently ubuntu is on it, but im thinking maybe move from that to debian
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3654[21:49:24] <mispp_> so, older kernel, plus lxd over snap
3655[21:49:26] <SerajewelKS> i'm still too scared to use btrfs in production
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3657[21:49:44] <SerajewelKS> LVM+ext does most of what i need it to
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3660[21:50:20] <mispp_> SerajewelKS: also bitrot i.e. block checksums?
3661[21:50:38] <JordiGH> SerajewelKS: What was the right command to rename it back?
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3663[21:50:58] <jelly> mispp_, if you want that, use zfs, yes even on linux
3664[21:50:59] <SerajewelKS> the biggest draw for me for btrfs would be having a two-disk storage pool from which i can allocate mirrored and non-mirrored volumes, but it doesn't support that last time i checked
3665[21:51:10] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: vgrename oldname newname
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3667[21:51:37] <mispp_> jelly: but zfs is running through fuse, btrfs is more convenient
3668[21:51:49] <jelly> mispp_, use the kernel one.
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3672[21:52:05] <mispp_> is zfs in kernel now?
3673[21:52:07] <jelly> no
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3677[21:52:24] <jelly> it will probably never be
3678[21:52:25] <bites> lxd is developed on ubuntu. stephane graber works at canonical. i don't want to advertise for them, but moving away from ubuntu for running lxd might not be the best idea.
3679[21:52:26] <JordiGH> SerajewelKS: hokay, done!
3680[21:52:32] <JordiGH> Now we chroot...
3681[21:52:33] <SerajewelKS> i like the idea of having a storage pool where the volumes grow as i need them to, so i don't have to decide in advance how much storage needs redundancy and how much doesn't. but btrfs can't even do that today, so...
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3683[21:52:44] <SerajewelKS> JordiGH: don't forget to mount boot before chrooting
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3685[21:53:32] <jelly> !zfsonlinux
3686[21:53:32] <dpkg> ZFS (originally Zettabyte File System) is a file system / logical volume manager developed by Sun Microsystems (replaced-url
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3689[21:55:45] <mispp_> anyhow, i have one private server running at home with raid 1 array and btrfs. so far no problems, but lets see when i do the upgrade
3690[21:56:06] <mispp_> right now im thinking two options: debian or ubuntu 18.04
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3692[21:56:12] <JordiGH> So how does grub-install work?
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3695[21:56:38] <SerajewelKS> i like the goals of btrfs, it just doesn't do what i need yet and i also don't quite trust it in production yet. but i have been following it.
3696[21:56:44] <mispp_> zfs seems like something less reliable with updates (not the filesystem itself)
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3699[21:58:59] <JordiGH> I think I also need to image /boot
3700[21:59:05] <JordiGH> They have different linuxen.
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3702[21:59:16] <mispp_> bites: but yeah, now reading about snap + lxd and it doesnt seem like a smart idea
3703[21:59:17] <JordiGH> I am actually using a backported linux on the source drive.
3704[21:59:30] <JordiGH> Which I will almost certainly need.
3705[21:59:34] * JordiGH umounts everything.
3706[22:00:00] <mispp_> jelly: i'll look into zfs, but already have kind of an aversion to it because its out-of-tree
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3708[22:00:21] <jelly> mispp_, we get at least one user a month here with a broken btrfs
3709[22:00:24] <jelly> ymmv.
3710[22:00:39] <mispp_> interesting
3711[22:00:52] <mispp_> you know maybe what are usual problems?
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3713[22:01:06] <jelly> first two things in their faq
3714[22:01:13] <mispp_> debian?
3715[22:01:19] <greycat> "It says I'm out of space but I'm not!"
3716[22:01:24] <jelly> btrfs.
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3720[22:02:57] <bites> i believe there were some problems with quota
3721[22:03:06] <bites> which you probably want for containers.
3722[22:04:01] <mispp_> greycat: :)
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3727[22:05:08] <mispp_> bites: let's see. i'd like to move from canonical... but maybe now is not the time
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3730[22:05:27] <mispp_> kernel upgrade is not scheduled for another 2 years, right
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3733[22:06:05] <bites> you would at least have to do all the testing yourself before going into production.
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3738[22:09:18] <bites> your containers can be all debian, though. ^^
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3780[22:24:25] <phogg> becks`: set your debconf priority: dpkg-reconfigure debconf
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3784[22:25:25] <becks`> phogg: is it possible to have it in a oneliner? it's a script that runs automatically when installing a new server (on first boot)
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3786[22:25:41] <phogg> becks`: Maybe? I've never tried.
3787[22:26:06] <becks`> okay, thanks :)
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3789[22:26:58] <phogg> becks`: worst case you can probably script it with dpkg-reconfigure -f readline and expect
3790[22:27:15] <becks`> phogg: will try, thanks!
3791[22:27:19] <phinxy> Are these owners and permissions correct for passwd/shadow? replaced-url
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3794[22:28:06] <phogg> phinxy: yes
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3796[22:28:48] <jelly> phinxy, don't forget group and gshadow
3797[22:29:58] <phogg> becks`: looks like you can drop a 'Frontend: noninteractive' line into /etc/debconf.conf.
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3805[22:34:34] <becks`> phogg: that worked, thanks! :D
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3808[22:34:50] <Tenkawa> has anyone successfully booted a debian usb installer from just a uefi shell?
3809[22:35:00] <Tenkawa> got a box that is in real bad shape
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3819[22:43:50] <phinxy> Is the a verbose option for the tty login? I suspect the entire root filesystem does not have correct permissions, how would I know? It's a filesystem on the LAN network. I'd rather not chroot since its a different architecure, but changing files on the filesystem is easy.
3820[22:44:19] <phinxy> main problem: I cant login
3821[22:44:59] <ksk> via ssh? password and key?
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3823[22:45:04] <tw> phinxy: read /var/log/auth.log
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3830[22:47:26] <phinxy> tw• It's not written to! So..
3831[22:47:48] <phinxy> ksk• via UART? Not sure what youre asking
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3835[22:50:11] <phinxy> Its a disk-less computer which loads kernel, initrd with PXE or something and then boots a NFS root filesystem. I type things on the computer trough UART. The letters seems correct in username field when typed.
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3841[22:50:57] <tw> But the logs aren't configured to go to a remote system?
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3843[22:52:03] <phinxy> no they are not
3844[22:52:26] <tw> maybe systemd.journald.forward_to_console=1 ?
3845[22:52:32] <tw> kernel arg
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3849[22:54:45] <ksk> hexhaxtron: would accessing the source of the NFS share and checking its permissions be easier?
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3852[22:55:17] <ksk> eh, dafuq. sorry hexhaxtron
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3864[23:01:41] <phinxy> tw• That kernel option was helpful, thanks!
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3868[23:02:20] <tw> phinxy: what ended up being the problem with your login?
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3884[23:09:05] <phinxy> tw• There is a dozen of permission errors from just about every program. The permissions are correct.
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3888[23:11:36] <phinxy> NFS-server might only allow one user, I'm missing a piece.
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3890[23:13:16] <phinxy> By default, NFS shares change the root user to the nfsnobody user, an unprivileged user account.
3891[23:14:45] <phinxy> Typically this is needed if you are hosting root filesystems on the NFS server (for diskless clients).
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3938[23:43:25] <la> hi guys, quick question, how do grep words from a file ?, for example , i have these words in a file ,dad ,home ,down i want to search these words in other files
3939[23:44:01] <greycat> man grep, look at -f
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3944[23:45:09] <la> i have like 77 words in the intake file.. greycat;
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3946[23:45:25] <jelly> 3 or 77, don't make no difference
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3949[23:46:31] <jelly> (but you're going to find out GNU grep -f is HORRIBLY slow and it's probably better to create a single extended regex and use grep -E instead of -f)
3950[23:46:42] <greycat> you may also want to look at the -F and -x options
3951[23:46:53] <la> sec checking that out..
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3953[23:47:06] <deego> Did I accidentally paste a bunch of crap here?
3954[23:47:16] <Tenkawa> deego: nope
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3956[23:47:27] <deego> Tenkawa: thanks
3957[23:47:31] <Tenkawa> np
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3960[23:48:38] <la> jelly: greycat: thanks , grep -f intakefile outakefile worked :)
3961[23:48:44] <deego> replaced-url
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3969[23:52:13] <la> second question, i have a file with bunch of duplicate ips, when using sort filename | uniq -u it removing all the duplicat how can i keep one of each kind, for example , i have in the file 1 , 1 ,1,2,2,3,4,4 how can i keep 1 2 4
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3972[23:53:01] <la> removing duplicate but keeping 1 of a kind.. ( like in excel )
3973[23:53:20] <jelly> deego, the "patch" command has an exploitable vulnerability and the linked file appears to contain a proof of concept exploit so yeah?
3974[23:53:58] <deego> i mean, the patch debian pushed - is that safe?
3975[23:53:59] <jelly> it's a neat way to bundle the fix and the PoC in one?
3976[23:54:15] <jelly> deego, which patch did debian push?
3977[23:54:30] <deego> jelly: the recent patch for beep about 2 days ago
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3979[23:55:45] <deego> la: isn't that what uniq does ? keep one of each?
3980[23:56:03] <Tenkawa> la: just rediret the command output to a new file ie >file.out
3981[23:56:13] <Tenkawa> or append >>file.out
3982[23:56:14] <jelly> deego, if you don't trust the debian maintainers of beep, you can diff the sources for current and previous version yourself.
3983[23:56:19] <la> this is what i thought aswell, but it does not , it remove all duplicate with out saving one..
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3985[23:56:39] <jelly> ,v beep
3986[23:56:40] <judd> Package: beep on amd64 -- jessie: 1.3-3+b1; wheezy: 1.3-3+b1; wheezy-security: 1.3-3+deb7u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 1.3-3+deb8u1; jessie-security: 1.3-3+deb8u1; buster: 1.3-4+b1; sid: 1.3-4+b1; stretch: 1.3-4+b1; stretch-proposed-updates: 1.3-4+deb9u1; stretch-security: 1.3-4+deb9u1
3987[23:56:49] <la> Tenkawa: what do u mean ?
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3990[23:57:39] <jelly> deego, apt-get source beep=1.3-4+b1 in one directory, apt-get source beep=1.3-4+deb9u1 in another, and compare.
3991[23:58:03] <deego> la: ah that is because you use -u
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3993[23:58:06] <jelly> hm, the first command will probably have to be "apt-get source beep=1.3-4"
3994[23:58:37] <deego> jelly: thanks
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