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45 [00:40:02] <jcarpenter2> replaced-url
46 [00:40:17] <jcarpenter2> there's lib32z1, lib64z1, libn32z1, and zlib1g...
47 [00:40:28] <jcarpenter2> what is signified by the "n", and by the "1g"?
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49 [00:42:36] <Thedarkb> How do I force PAE?
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53 [00:45:54] <Thedarkb> nevermind, no need.
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73 [01:11:48] <Thedarkb> Fuck
74 [01:12:04] <Thedarkb> I installed the wrong desktop environment
75 [01:12:09] <Thedarkb> and I can't go back
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77 [01:12:43] <Thedarkb> Can I
78 [01:13:06] <Thedarkb> Fuck it, I'll just restart the installation
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102 [01:35:10] <edju> Jessie here. Whenever I run KMail 4.14.1 the console fills with Akonadi stuff - some pasted at replaced-url
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111 [01:38:10] <Thedarkb> 44 min remaining on a network install.
112 [01:38:17] <Thedarkb> I hope this goes well.
113 [01:38:38] <dvs> oh noes!
114 [01:38:53] <Thedarkb> dvs, What?
115 [01:39:14] <dvs> Why wouldnt things go well?
116 [01:40:14] <jcarpenter2> it's debian, it always goes well knock on wood
117 [01:40:37] <jcarpenter2> but no really, debian is by far the most stable distro i've used, gentoo was just a disaster
118 [01:41:24] <rabbitear_sdf> I should put debian on my router
119 [01:41:45] <Thedarkb> I plan on leaving Debian on this thinkpad until it kicks it.
120 [01:41:59] <Thedarkb> It's 14 years old, how long do ThinkPads usually live for :)
121 [01:42:08] <rabbitear_sdf> I actually have fedora on this thinkpad x230
122 [01:42:17] <rabbitear_sdf> <3 thinkpads
123 [01:42:54] <rabbitear_sdf> a couple times I thought about watching back to -a- debian, but I'm gonna stick it out
124 [01:43:15] <rabbitear_sdf> forced learning
125 [01:43:27] <rabbitear_sdf> Thedarkb: what thinkpad do you have?
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127 [01:43:46] <Thedarkb> I have, oldest first, an X40, a T41p and an X200
128 [01:44:01] <Thedarkb> The X40 is the one currently getting Debian installed.
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130 [01:44:13] <Thedarkb> It's my beater craptop for general use.
131 [01:44:17] <Thedarkb> My X200 is my daily.
132 [01:44:25] <Thedarkb> My T41p sits in the corner and compiles things.
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134 [01:44:35] <Thedarkb> It's unclean
135 [01:44:42] <Thedarkb> It has a GPU not supported under Linux.
136 [01:45:08] <rabbitear_sdf> I also have an x60, but it doesn't current have a drive in it.. and before, I had the old old PII ... I can't even remember the model name, but it was my first thinkpad and really loved it, small and awesome
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139 [01:45:33] <Thedarkb> The X60 is very similar to the X40
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141 [01:45:41] <Thedarkb> Some bits are interchangeable.
142 [01:45:42] <rabbitear_sdf> Thedarkb: I mainly like the trackpoint (and the keyboards)
143 [01:45:54] <Thedarkb> The LCD panels are.
144 [01:46:12] <rabbitear_sdf> Thedarkb: great machine, but the LCD is no so bright, maybe I need to change the bulb or something
145 [01:46:27] <Thedarkb> rabbitear_sdf, There's an LED conversion kit out there.
146 [01:46:35] <Thedarkb> If you don't want to go back to CCFL
147 [01:46:36] <rabbitear_sdf> nice!
148 [01:46:47] <rabbitear_sdf> very much food for thought there
149 [01:47:07] <Thedarkb> There's even a version which is visible in direct sunlight.
150 [01:47:19] <rabbitear_sdf> I also prefer the 4:3 ratio over the 10:6 lol, or whatever this is
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152 [01:47:34] <rabbitear_sdf> Very nice Thedarkb
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154 [01:47:49] <rabbitear_sdf> Thedarkb: is it pricey ?
155 [01:47:50] <Thedarkb> Also, you can buy an upgrade motherboard that gives you a Kaby Lake i7
156 [01:47:56] <rabbitear_sdf> Thedarkb: under $100 ?
157 [01:48:03] <Tom_-> notebookreview.com says the T400 display was visible in direct sunlight
158 [01:48:03] <Thedarkb> The LED kit is.
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160 [01:48:22] <Thedarkb> The aftermarket motherboard is $700 for an i7 and $400 for an i5
161 [01:48:40] <Thedarkb> rabbitear_sdf, replaced-url
162 [01:48:42] <rabbitear_sdf> well, I dont mind the speed of the machine ...
163 [01:49:05] <rabbitear_sdf> but the low brightness is really why I am not using it
164 [01:49:10] <rabbitear_sdf> Thedarkb: thanks
165 [01:49:27] <Thedarkb> I have a spare tube that I know works if you want that either.
166 [01:49:43] <Thedarkb> I'm going to convert my X40 to LED when I get the new panel for it.
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168 [01:50:27] <rabbitear_sdf> Thedarkb: how come you don't start a thinkpad-hacking forum ? (might be a loaded question)
169 [01:50:51] <Thedarkb> I think that's already covered.
170 [01:50:56] <rabbitear_sdf> Thedarkb: yeah, in the future, might actually have to look into this ...
171 [01:51:12] <awal1> how can I "force" somehow html5 video content video to occupy only the current size of my web browser when putted in full screen mode? I have seen that in some websiteI no remember actually
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173 [01:51:37] <awal1> not occupy the whole screen
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175 [01:52:02] <rabbitear_sdf> awal1: I'd view the source, and try to see how they do it
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177 [01:52:25] <awal1> rabbitear_sdf, if I find the website :P
178 [01:52:45] <rabbitear_sdf> awal1: also the developer console is very very helpful
179 [01:53:13] <rabbitear_sdf> on chrome and firefox
180 [01:53:22] <uxfi> Hello to all
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182 [01:55:16] <rabbitear_sdf> greetings
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924 [02:31:54] <enseneo> Hi everyone. I'm having an installation problem: using the netinst CD, when I select "Graphical Install" or regular "Install", my new system reads from the CD a while and then just gives up (blank screen).
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928 [02:32:58] <dvs> enseneo, is this from a USB?
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931 [02:33:59] <Tom_-> enseneo, are you sure the full ISO image of the netinst CD was written to CD?
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933 [02:34:09] <Tom_-> have you checked the download signature?
934 [02:34:11] <Tom_-> dpkg, signatures
935 [02:34:12] <dpkg> well, signatures is #del#
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938 [02:34:19] <Tom_-> dpkg, sig
939 [02:34:19] <dpkg> rumour has it, sig is a Special Interest Group, or a meeting of like-minded individuals, with the intention of drinking lots. 1337sp33k for signature
940 [02:34:20] <enseneo> Doesn't matter whether I use USB or a CD
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944 [02:34:50] <enseneo> Yes, I'm using the full netinst ISO. (verified checksums)
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947 [02:35:33] <mcm_> i'm getting this error: 'Package python-gpgme is not available, but is referred to by another package'. How can see which package is referencing it?
948 [02:35:35] <Tom_-> maybe it's a video incompatibility error, you can try fb=false
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950 [02:36:18] <enseneo> I have not checked signatures, but I've downloaded and checked the md5sums and burned the images on two different machines; my image is not corrupt; using both USB and CD, after selecting either "Graphical install" or regular "Install", I get a blank screen.
951 [02:36:19] <annadane> mcm_, aptitude
952 [02:36:28] <annadane> (i think)
953 [02:36:56] <dvs> enseneo, UEFI install?
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955 [02:37:06] <mcm_> i would have guessed there is an apt-cache or so command....
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957 [02:37:29] <enseneo> dvs, yes, UEFI is there
958 [02:37:59] <dvs> enseneo, If you selected a UEFI install then Secure Boot needs to be turned off.
959 [02:38:11] <r3> mcm_: you can try 'apt-cache search python-gpgme' ?
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961 [02:38:35] <r3> and be sure to 'apt-get update'
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975 [02:39:15] <enseneo> dvs, not sure that I ever "selected" UEFI install: it's simply called "Debian GNU/Linux Uefi Installer"; Ok, I will look into turning off Secure Boot; I guess I just need to go into the UEFI shell and type something (at least I hope so)
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978 [02:39:46] <dvs> enseneo, disable it in the "BIOS"
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990 [02:42:21] <mcm_> r3, thanks. exactly, `apt-cache` returns zero result. however when i do `apt install python-gpgme` then it returns the error 'Package python-gpgme is not available, but is referred to by another package'. btw this is on ubuntu.
991 [02:42:42] <mcm_> r3, therefore i wanted to find out which package refers to this one.
992 [02:42:45] <enseneo> dvs, looks like I can disable UEFI; I'll try "Legacy" mode
993 [02:42:57] <dvs> ok
994 [02:43:52] <mcm_> r3, also `apt-cache depends <pkg>` and `apt-cache rdepends <pkg>` doesn't deliver any valuable information.
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997 [02:44:04] <enseneo> dvs, it turns out secure boot was *already* disabled
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999 [02:44:35] <awal1> dpkg: preventa
1000 [02:44:35] <dpkg> awal1: I give up, what is it?
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1003 [02:45:01] <annadane> mcm_, ubuntu is not debian
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1005 [02:45:04] <awal1> dpkg: minix3
1006 [02:45:04] <dpkg> awal1: I wish you would RTFM.
1007 [02:45:07] <annadane> !tell mcm_ about based on debian
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1013 [02:47:48] <mcm_> annadane, i'm very well aware. i just wanted help on apt-* commands not a ubuntu specific question.
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1015 [02:49:35] <enseneo> dvs, changing from uefi to "legacy" made the situation worse: I cannot boot into the installer at all, now (i.e., not even the first screen); I'm going back to UEFI + secure boot turned off
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1021 [02:50:08] <annadane> mcm_, i may have misunderstood you then; my apologies
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1036 [02:58:54] <Scriptonaut> hey guys, I'm having some trouble loading fonts. I am using lemonbar, and I have Terminus and FontAwesome fonts, I also refreshed the font cache with fc-cache -fv or w/e the command is. Here is the error I get from lemonbar: replaced-url
1037 [02:59:04] <Scriptonaut> and here are the scripts giving the errors: replaced-url
1038 [02:59:25] <Scriptonaut> the error is from the last line of the script
1039 [02:59:41] <Scriptonaut> this worked fine on my gentoo machine, and on my debian squeeze machine (same hdd actually)
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1041 [03:00:46] <Scriptonaut> I got both terminus and fontawesome from apt by the way. Here is the output of: fc-list | grep -i "terminus\|awesome": replaced-url
1042 [03:01:13] <Scriptonaut> so I have the fonts, but it doesn't want to load them
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1049 [03:02:55] <r3> mcm_: I wonder if your /etc/apt/sources.list is screwy?
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1053 [03:03:41] <mcm_> annadane, no worries :-)
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1059 [03:05:20] <r3> mcm_: if you can, maybe try 'aptitude search "?provides(python-gpgme)"'
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1066 [03:07:00] <r3> mcm_: and then maybe if you find what is referencing it you can try removing that package and then do apt-get update and reinstalling it?
1067 [03:07:59] <mcm_> r3, aptitude didn't return any results either...
1068 [03:08:13] <mcm_> thank you for the hints...
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1070 [03:08:41] <mcm_> btw, where does apt store the package lists? it should be somewhere in /var
1071 [03:09:21] <r3> perhaps in /var/lib/apt/lists/
1072 [03:10:06] <mcm_> thanks, a grep in that folder revealed more info :-)
1073 [03:10:07] <r3> or /var/cache/apt/
1074 [03:10:36] <r3> sure thing, mcm_, hope I was able to help some, gotta run - sorry - cheers!
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1078 [03:11:19] <mcm_> cheers
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1098 [03:20:53] <anonit> Hello can someone please help me. My Debian jessie system is currently booted up, however sometime within the last hour (I was afk) it has now mounted the rootfs as read only
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1100 [03:21:06] <anonit> Dmesg crashes the terminal. ls -l shows /tmp is 777
1101 [03:21:46] <anonit> Actually thought I was in #linux going to post there as there are probably more people, sorry about that
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1232 [03:31:48] <srruby> [Offtopic] Does anyone like the ChromeBooks for use as software development and everyday use?
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1238 [03:32:19] <annadane> perhaps a topic better suited to #debian-offtopic
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1260 [03:34:52] <Thedarkb-X40> Right, I can't get wifi working.
1261 [03:34:57] <Thedarkb-X40> I have the driver.
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1263 [03:35:23] <dvs> Thedarkb-X40, But do you have the firmware?
1264 [03:35:24] <Thedarkb-X40> I'd like to get it working ASAP
1265 [03:35:27] <Thedarkb-X40> dvs, Yes.
1266 [03:35:39] <Thedarkb-X40> Up to date
1267 [03:36:07] <dvs> What wireless card is it?
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1269 [03:36:37] <Thedarkb-X40> 02:02.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)
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1271 [03:36:44] <Thedarkb-X40> iwconfig sees it.
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1273 [03:37:05] <dvs> Is firmware-iwlwifi loaded?
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1278 [03:37:36] <Thedarkb-X40> how do I check?
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1283 [03:37:43] <Thedarkb-X40> sysctl something
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1286 [03:37:50] <dvs> dpkg -l firmware-iwlwifi
1287 [03:37:50] <dpkg> ii firmware-iwlwifi 1.3-5 dvs's private warez collection
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1291 [03:38:12] <dvs> doh!
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1293 [03:38:25] <Thedarkb-X40> Installing the package now.
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1295 [03:39:35] <awal1> who is called when people calls pciidin channel?
1296 [03:40:07] <Thedarkb-X40> Restart?
1297 [03:40:12] <Thedarkb-X40> After installing the firmware.
1298 [03:40:24] <awal1> btw, what is the exact way? and how to do in private?
1299 [03:40:24] <dvs> yes
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1308 [03:43:00] <Thedarkb-X40> no luck
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1310 [03:43:09] <Thedarkb-X40> Huh
1311 [03:43:16] <Thedarkb-X40> Oh, my X200's battery probably died.
1312 [03:43:20] <Thedarkb-X40> Left it unattended.
1313 [03:43:25] <Thedarkb-X40> dvs, Any other ideas?
1314 [03:43:32] <dvs> nope
1315 [03:43:56] <Thedarkb-X40> shit.
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1318 [03:45:02] <dvs> Oh uninstall that and install firmware-ipw2x00 instead
1319 [03:45:12] <Thedarkb-X40> Oh yeah, I need libc6, can I safely grab that from sid
1320 [03:45:17] <Thedarkb-X40> I already had that in the first place.
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1323 [03:46:43] <Thedarkb-X40> dvs, Already at newest version.
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1333 [03:50:12] <Thedarkb-X40> Anyone have any ideas at all?
1334 [03:50:22] <Thedarkb-X40> I'm kind of desperate.
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1340 [03:54:24] <Thedarkb-X40> 1: phy0: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: yes Hard blocked: no
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1342 [03:54:27] <Thedarkb-X40> ???????????
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1344 [03:54:32] <Thedarkb-X40> What does that mean?
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1346 [03:55:51] <Thedarkb-X40> I unblocked it with RFkill and still no luck
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1348 [03:57:02] <Thedarkb-X40> This laptop doesn't even have a hardware switch.
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1353 [03:59:16] <dvs> Fn-F8?
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1365 [03:59:56] <Thedarkb-X40> dvs, Did nothing
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1367 [04:00:15] <Thedarkb-X40> There's no hard blocking on this laptop
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1369 [04:00:32] <Thedarkb-X40> and soft blocking is disabled
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1374 [04:01:05] <Thedarkb-X40> replaced-url
1375 [04:01:13] <Thedarkb-X40> This is the output of iwconfig
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1378 [04:01:49] <Thedarkb-X40> Anyone know anything about this?
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1382 [04:02:36] <Thedarkb-X40> is there some daemon that should be running but isn't?
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1384 [04:02:56] <dvs> Thedarkb-X40, what does "iwlist wlp2s2 scan" say?
1385 [04:03:36] <Thedarkb-X40> found my router
1386 [04:03:57] <dvs> So the driver works. It's just a matter of configuring your connection.
1387 [04:04:00] <Thedarkb-X40> replaced-url
1388 [04:05:13] <Thedarkb-X40> What do you mean?
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1394 [04:07:10] <dvs> Thedarkb-X40, replaced-url
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1396 [04:09:25] <Thedarkb-X40> dvs, I followed the instructions.
1397 [04:09:28] <Thedarkb-X40> Yeah, nothing.
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1399 [04:09:56] <Thedarkb-X40> I'll try the gnome network manager
1400 [04:09:57] <dvs> Well, it's not a driver problem, it's a configuration problem
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1408 [04:12:27] <Thedarkb-X40> Found the problem
1409 [04:12:31] <Thedarkb-X40> Wicd is just a piece of shit.
1410 [04:12:37] <Thedarkb-X40> That was the issue all along
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1413 [04:14:32] <dvs> To each their own. I use wpa-supplicant.
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1431 [04:22:37] <Thedarkb> dvs, I think I have it
1432 [04:22:46] <Thedarkb> I think the issue is that wicd is a piece of shit.
1433 [04:23:13] <dvs> Some people swear by it.
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1436 [04:24:17] <Thedarkb> Well, GNOME network manager has it's own issues with my WiFi card
1437 [04:24:24] <Thedarkb> but nothing that can't be configged away.
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1445 [04:27:30] <Thedarkb> Nah, still won't work.
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1468 [04:50:57] <Scriptonaut> ok, so I dug through lemonbar's sourcecode, it uses xcb_open_font_checked(connection, font_object, strlen (font_name), font_name); to fetch the fonts. It's not fetching them correctly, anyone know what type of string I should be passing to xcb_open_font_checked()? I'm passing it
1469 [04:51:07] <Scriptonaut> "Terminus:size=14:style=Bold" **
1470 [04:51:57] <Scriptonaut> this is where the font lives /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/ter-u12b_unicode.pcf.gz: Terminus:style=Bold
1471 [04:52:00] <Scriptonaut> that's fc-list output
1472 [04:52:16] <Scriptonaut> anything wrong with that syntax?
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1480 [04:56:48] <razer1> I just installed debian 9 stable, xorg, and awesome window manager. I have no audio and I don't know why.
1481 [04:57:00] <razer1> I installed alsa-utils and viewed all the levels and they look good.
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1488 [04:59:33] <n4dir> razer1: which software do you use which doesn't give sound ( i guess my point is: you sure it isn't muted?).
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1497 [05:07:56] <aindilis> I have a question about routing
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1517 [05:31:52] <ian|m> debian 10 better be much better than debian 9 or im quitting linux
1518 [05:32:06] <n4dir> !chat
1519 [05:32:06] <dpkg> This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
1520 [05:32:12] <ian|m> sorry
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1522 [05:32:51] <n4dir> sounds a bit rougher than it was meant. But as far i can see here are mainly users, not devs or such. So no one will be able to help you.
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1524 [05:33:26] <n4dir> you might try #linux and ask for a Linux distro which is according to your needs (or one of the BSD ones?).
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1527 [05:34:52] <n4dir> nothing wrong with quitting linux either, i guess.
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1599 [06:43:06] <physkets> Hi!
1600 [06:43:30] <physkets> I'm planning to use Debian for the first time, and would like some advice:
1601 [06:43:58] <physkets> The device I'm considering buying is a mini-PC:
1602 [06:44:00] <physkets> replaced-url
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1605 [06:44:57] <physkets> I want to use it as my home-router and WiFi access-point (average 2 devices, maximum 4 connected at one time)
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1607 [06:51:07] <physkets> and also as a server, possibly running 'matrix', some git repos, maybe 'Mastodon'....
1608 [06:51:34] <physkets> So my question is, does that miniPC look okay for all that on Debian?
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1613 [06:58:48] <alkisg> physkets: yeah it looks fine
1614 [06:59:05] <alkisg> except for "WiFi is incompatible with pfSense. If you need WiFi, pls use other OS of your Choice"
1615 [06:59:12] <alkisg> I.e. it might not have a linux wifi driver
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1617 [06:59:44] <alkisg> In that case you could buy a wifi dongle
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1619 [07:01:35] <nyaomi> i have a vga monitor and hdmi tv connected to this machine, and when i boot while both are on everything is fine, but if the tv shuts off, upon turning it back on the monitor no longer gets any input, though the tv remains a secondary display with no gnome shell ui stuff
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1625 [07:10:09] <physkets> alkisg: I wrote to them asking about the WiFi card, and this is what they told me:
1626 [07:10:11] <physkets> replaced-url
1627 [07:10:19] <physkets> It looks like it has a linux driver
1628 [07:11:32] <physkets> replaced-url
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1631 [07:15:34] <physkets> It says "Probable Linux driver"
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1637 [07:17:20] <alkisg> Yeah it supposedly "probably" might work
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1639 [07:17:40] <physkets> What WiFi card has the best "free" drivers, as well as "abilities" (to work as an access-point)?
1640 [07:18:01] <physkets> (and supports atleast 802.11n)
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1645 [07:20:36] <alkisg> replaced-url
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1661 [07:32:49] <physkets> Yes, but most of them are non-free, I think... no?
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1685 [07:56:07] <physkets> Looking into possible free and capable chipsets, the only one that satisfied this seems to be "ath9k_htc":
1686 [07:56:12] <physkets> replaced-url
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1688 [07:56:37] <physkets> ^This says that the firmware is free, but Debian still categorizes it as 'non-free':
1689 [07:56:50] <physkets> replaced-url
1690 [07:56:52] <physkets> Why?
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1701 [08:06:53] <physkets> Oh! It's just that it isn't in 'stable' yet:
1702 [08:06:55] <physkets> replaced-url
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1705 [08:12:05] <physkets> Hmmm... so if I get a card using this chipset, I'll have to install 'testing' or 'unstable'
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1725 [08:32:26] <simbalion> What to do when pulse audio crashes, pulseaudio --start returns daemon failed to start? Is there a way to fix this without rebooting?
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1727 [08:34:02] <DonVlad> Hi, I want to loose my plebness and join Debian (using Ubuntu right) now
1728 [08:34:15] <DonVlad> will Android studio work fine on Debian?
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1761 [08:57:32] <nkuttler> simbalion: try to get a more verbose error
1762 [08:57:46] <simbalion> nkuttler: I tried -v and -vvv but I couldn't get anything useful
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1764 [08:57:48] <Haohmaru> ? chroot
1765 [08:57:51] <nkuttler> DonVlad: that's just some java app, isn't it? yeah, should work
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1768 [08:58:04] <simbalion> if I ran it as sudo it'd show lots of info but not if I run it under my user account where it crashed
1769 [08:58:24] <nkuttler> simbalion: anything in dmesg /var/log/messages etc?
1770 [08:58:31] <Haohmaru> one of the bots here used to say compact and useful instructions for changing your forgotten root password
1771 [08:58:41] <nkuttler> dpkg: chroot
1772 [08:58:42] <dpkg> To chroot into your Debian system boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2). Mount your root filesystem with "mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target" and make /dev, /proc and /sys usable with "mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys". You can then chroot into the system with "chroot /target".
1773 [08:58:52] <nkuttler> ~i forgot root's password
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1775 [08:59:03] <nkuttler> !i forgot root's password
1776 [08:59:03] <dpkg> For GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt.
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1779 [08:59:27] <Haohmaru> ah, that second one, thanks
1780 [08:59:50] <simbalion> nkuttler: something about failing to load a cookie file, I think I saw that while searching for a solution earlier..
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1782 [09:00:06] <nkuttler> simbalion: please be specific
1783 [09:00:53] <simbalion> nkuttler: /home/user/.config/pulse/cookie, no such file. I had tried moving my pulse to pulse.old and letting it re-create
1784 [09:01:41] <simbalion> woah now -vvv shows lots, if i use it under tmux
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1793 [09:05:41] <simbalion> hrm only error i see is something about no space left on device but none of my disks are full. im stumped.
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1797 [09:06:59] <alkisg> Try df -h
1798 [09:07:16] <simbalion> oh and something about inotify watches, im wondering if there's some stale app running
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1829 [09:23:28] <shtrb> My e1000e had stopped fetching ips (ip link state is up, the led is on , cable plugged in , works on windows) but under debian it misbehave static ip or dchp both fail
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1838 [09:25:03] <shtrb> "Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection I217-LM (rev 04)" if anything
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1903 [10:04:09] <thms> I cancelled "aptitude install phpmyadmin" (ctrl + c). I tried "aptitude remove phpmyadmin", but still, when I run aptitude install, it wants to install phpmyadmin. How can I tell aptitude to give up ?
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1909 [10:06:13] <at0m> thms: i suggest "aptitude -f install" to fix current installation, then remove it
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1917 [10:08:18] <rabbitear_sdf> thms: you have to social engineer it
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1921 [10:09:31] <at0m> ..
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1938 [10:18:56] <thms> thanks at0m
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1993 [10:44:29] <marmistrz> Hi! I have a problem installing debian via netinst
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1997 [10:44:50] <marmistrz> I don't have CDs anywhere near so I used a second IDE drive for booting the netinst image
1998 [10:45:02] <marmistrz> (i.e. I booted Debian from an IDE drive)
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2000 [10:45:22] <marmistrz> now the Debian installer complains it can't find a needed CD
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2007 [10:49:38] <marmistrz> Ok, I realized it just wants me to tell it where the installation media is :P
2008 [10:49:42] <marmistrz> that could've been clearer
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2039 [11:17:33] <Haohmaru> i see a "shortcut" (symbolic link or whatever) to a folder, which happens to be another such shortcut to another folder.. aaah the madness, is there a way to find the actual final path?
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2069 [11:35:38] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
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2126 [12:11:56] <barryhoppins> in the line See apt(8) for more information about the available commands. what does (8) refer to?
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2129 [12:13:22] <jelly> barryhoppins: man pages are arranged in sections, section 8 is for administrative tools. man man
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2187 [12:46:51] <marmistrz> Hi! I haven't selected any DE because I want to install LXQt (the computer is really old)
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2189 [12:47:01] <marmistrz> To my surprise, GNOME was installed.
2190 [12:47:12] <Sir_Designer> and it works?
2191 [12:47:32] <marmistrz> Will `apt purge task-gnome-desktop` be enough to remove it?
2192 [12:48:00] <marmistrz> Sir_Designer: the installation has not finished yet, but it has 600MB RAM, so it will not :P
2193 [12:48:15] <marmistrz> *the computer has 600MB RAM
2194 [12:48:28] <Sir_Designer> i remember running debian on ppc iin 512
2195 [12:48:47] <marmistrz> Sir_Designer: I guess not under GNOME :P
2196 [12:49:52] <Sir_Designer> xfce should run and support your hardware. geuessing your choice was overruled for no video support
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2200 [12:51:02] <Sir_Designer> Panie marmistrz, proszę nie udziwniać.
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2209 [12:54:50] <marmistrz> Sir_Designer: I suspect it's due to the fact that GNome is the default
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2211 [12:55:01] <marmistrz> I know that there are lighter DEs
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2213 [12:55:13] <marmistrz> I just want to be sure how to uninstall GNOME
2214 [12:55:34] <marmistrz> I really don't want to repeat the whole installation process :))
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2273 [13:20:33] <Wolf20180323> hi all. I've two different wirelesa adapters. I'm using aircrack-ng and reaver to test my wps. The external interface is in monitor mode and is beimg used. In order to use aircrack-mg some thongs, like network-manager services and O think wpa_supplicant must be disabled (airmon-ng check kill). As the internal network manager is not used at all, I'd like to connect to Wi-Fi using that and performing penetration testing on the extwrnal at rhe same time. Ca
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2285 [13:29:00] <prout_> hi there
2286 [13:29:12] <prout_> netstat -ntu doesn't show any interface
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2289 [13:30:01] <prout_> I'm on kali linux VM (virtualbox), host = arch linux, tried with NAT and bridged connection, I have internet connection on the VM
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2292 [13:30:48] <BCMM> prout_: which one, out of Kali and Arch, do you think is Debian?
2293 [13:31:12] <Wolf20180323> I'd go and ask those dumb kali folks prout_
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2295 [13:31:51] <Wolf20180323> Chunkz by any chance do you have experience with networking and connecting through terminal?
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2298 [13:32:13] <Wolf20180323> BCMM I meant
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2301 [13:33:32] <BCMM> Wolf20180323: yes, but i don't really use wifi much
2302 [13:33:34] <Wolf20180323> BTW, I'm on Debian Stretch, if that matters
2303 [13:33:55] <BCMM> Wolf20180323: nor did i entirely understand "As the internal network manager is not used at all"
2304 [13:34:19] <BCMM> Wolf20180323: is there any chance that you've accidentally used "network controller" and "network manager" interchangeably?
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2310 [13:36:25] <Wolf20180323> no BCMM is just the penetration hacking stuff who kills network-manager, and I beleive wpa_supplicant as well. Also, I do the attacks with wlan1 (wifi dongle), wlan0 is nit connect to anything or being "used" by any commands. I can understand the advantages of ethernet...
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2313 [13:37:11] <BCMM> Wolf20180323: right, so you have a wlan0 and a wlan1, and you'd like to use one of those to connect to your router for a perfectly ordinary internet connection, and keep the other one free for aircrack and so on?
2314 [13:37:27] <Wolf20180323> BCMM yes exactly!
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2316 [13:37:45] <Wolf20180323> BCMM I tried wpa_cli no success
2317 [13:38:00] <BCMM> Wolf20180323: if you want to carry on using NetworkManager for your "normal" interface, you could have a look at the unmanaged-devices option for N<
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2319 [13:38:11] <BCMM> ^NM
2320 [13:38:29] <BCMM> you can run NM as normal, but tell it to ignore a specific network device
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2323 [13:38:53] <Wolf20180323> BCMM could you teach me how?
2324 [13:39:03] <BCMM> also i think on debian, networkmanager will ignore any network that has an entry in /etc/network/interfaces
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2330 [13:40:37] <Wolf20180323> BCMM should I write wlan1(wifi dongle aircrack stuff) there and do a service network-manager restart?
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2332 [13:40:58] <BCMM> Wolf20180323: best to just google unmanaged-devices; i don't really use networkmanager
2333 [13:41:13] <BCMM> but i'm pretty sure it takes the MAC address of the device, not the interface name
2334 [13:41:22] <BCMM> anyway, i'm afk for a while now. sorry.
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2337 [13:41:47] <Wolf20180323> BCMM ok thank you for the good tips
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2350 [13:51:46] <Wolf20180323> maybe I found something disabling the wifi dongle on wpa supplicant abd netwrork manager I can only hope the stuff will work on Debian 9
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2362 [14:01:40] <Wolf20180323> i found some stuff but it doesn't make sense to.me. conf files but they have to been edited and I don't know how...
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2386 [14:12:27] <Wolf20180323> hi all. I've two different wirelesa adapters. I'm using aircrack-ng and reaver to test my wps. The external interface is in monitor mode and is beimg used. In order to use aircrack-mg network-manager and some things are killed and disabled by airmon-ng. The Internal interface (wlan0) is NOT being used AT ALL, so I'd like to browse the Internet connecting to Wi-Fi on the Internal adapter, while performing the pen testing on the extwrnal. Can somebody help
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2398 [14:21:12] <ru7tyy> Hello.
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2402 [14:23:52] <ru7tyy> Any1 here?
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2404 [14:24:36] <n4dir> !ask
2405 [14:24:36] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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2414 [14:30:29] <choice__> Damn! I had two files in a directory "a" and "b". And I did "mv a b". So now b is gone. Can I get it back?
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2416 [14:31:04] <BCMM> choice__: no
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2419 [14:31:23] <BCMM> choice__: oh actually, i *think* moving a file over another file is an unlink/rename
2420 [14:31:27] <BCMM> not an overwrite
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2422 [14:31:35] <BCMM> so you *might* be able to use extundelete or something
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2424 [14:32:24] <choice__> BCMM: What is extundelete?
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2427 [14:32:45] <BCMM> choice__: it's an undelete tool for ext filesystems
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2432 [14:33:03] <BCMM> choice: bear in mind that there is no recycle bin or anything like that for a deletion from command line
2433 [14:33:08] <shtrb> Any I217-LM experienced used remember how to make e1000e work after reboot without full shutdown ? the same issue existed in jessi but I can't find anything related in logs
2434 [14:33:17] <choice> BCMM: So 'apt-get extundelete'?
2435 [14:33:19] <BCMM> choice: just tools that go through your free space for files that *might* not be overwritten yet
2436 [14:33:39] <BCMM> choice: if the file is valuable, unmount the disk immediately and plug it in to another system to use extundelete there
2437 [14:34:27] <choice> BCMM: 'another system'?
2438 [14:34:35] <Wolf20180323> BCMM Hi sorry to disturb you again do you understand something on these configurations replaced-url
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2440 [14:35:35] <BCMM> Wolf20180323: no sorry, never used wpa_supplicant with systemd
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2442 [14:36:22] <Wolf20180323> BCMM ok np
2443 [14:36:29] <BCMM> choice: everything you write to the disk has a chance of overwriting your deleted file
2444 [14:36:34] <shtrb> Wolf20180323, does it work without network-manager ?
2445 [14:36:40] <choice> BCMM: I know. Now how do I undelete the file?
2446 [14:36:48] <BCMM> choice: so if it's *very* important that you get this file back, plug the hdd in to another computer
2447 [14:36:58] <choice> BCMM: Why into another computer??
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2449 [14:37:01] <permalink> hello . anyone has any idea wtf is happening with my PC here ? replaced-url
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2452 [14:37:17] <BCMM> choice: because, presumably, you'd be installing extundelete on the same disk you're trying to recover stuff from
2453 [14:37:28] <choice> BCMM: It's not the disk I would install something on.
2454 [14:37:55] <BCMM> choice: well, that's ok then
2455 [14:37:58] <BCMM> have you unmounted it?
2456 [14:37:59] <choice> BCMM: The partition the file (hopefully) is on is not mounted to / or /home/ or anything.
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2458 [14:38:08] <choice> BCMM: No, should I unmount it?
2459 [14:38:36] <permalink> if i have both monitors connected this weird thing happens . and the PC won't boot . i have Debian 9 Stetch but i don't think it has something to do with the OS
2460 [14:38:43] <BCMM> choice: probably just read replaced-url
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2462 [14:38:50] <BCMM> photorec might also be useful here
2463 [14:39:00] <choice> BCMM: Fucking SOURCEFORGE?
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2465 [14:39:08] <choice> Is this the 90s again?
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2467 [14:39:33] <RoyK> choice: there are still projects around on sourceorge ;)
2468 [14:39:36] <RoyK> forge, even
2469 [14:39:46] <Wolf20180323> shtrb yeah wlan1 is being used by aircrack and reavrr in monitor mode. I wanna use wlan0 with Wi-Fi aircrack kill network manager and wpa aupplicant but disabling wlan1 in the conf of those shluld sove the pronlem (typo small touch screen)
2470 [14:39:47] <choice> RoyK: I would never install anything from SF.
2471 [14:39:55] <RoyK> choice: because?
2472 [14:40:11] <BCMM> i mean, if you don't know about package managers, i don't know if you're going to have much luck here really
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2475 [14:40:37] <choice> RoyK: I only use what is in the Debian repos.
2476 [14:40:43] <BCMM> choice: i absolutely refuse to basically read out documentation from sourceforge for you line by line
2477 [14:40:51] * choice is trying debugfs ...
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2479 [14:40:57] <RoyK> choice: your best bet would be photorec - ext[234] doesn't have an undelete function
2480 [14:40:58] <BCMM> so if you're not prepared to read a page from sourceforge, i guess you're stuck now
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2482 [14:41:51] <choice> BCMM: I have no objections to *read* stuff on SF.
2483 [14:42:07] <RoyK> BCMM: choice is probably afraid of a time machine or perhaps learning something new ;)
2484 [14:42:29] <BCMM> choice: it's in debian repos!
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2486 [14:43:00] <choice> "extundelete /dev/sda4 --restore-all" .. hmm...
2487 [14:43:07] <shtrb> Wolf20180323, I think it is easier just to disable Network-Manager
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2492 [14:44:46] <BCMM> choice: obviously, sub in your partition
2493 [14:44:52] <choice> BCMM: Sure.
2494 [14:44:57] <choice> extundelete is running ...
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2496 [14:45:03] <g0zzy> Got myself into a big pickle with Debian mysql-server. After deleting several users from mysql.user (none of which included root) i found that root could no longer log in to mysql. I then uninstalled and reinstalled with no change. I then got desperate and deleted /etc/mysql, before reinstalling, thinking there could be some conf files in the way. As a result, i have broken packages now and am not sure what to do
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2498 [14:45:16] <BCMM> choice: as RoyK says, there is no undelete feature in ext
2499 [14:45:16] <RoyK> choice: next time, make sure you have a good backup ;)
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2501 [14:45:23] <BCMM> this is just an unsupported trick that *might* work, sometimes
2502 [14:45:36] <MrKeuner> Hi, is replaced-url
2503 [14:45:37] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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2505 [14:45:50] <MrKeuner> Else, what am I missing?
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2507 [14:46:45] <choice> Hmm.. it 'recovered' the file but it turned some hundred kilobytes into 302 bytes.
2508 [14:46:48] <choice> I'm fucked.
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2514 [14:47:37] <RoyK> choice: unplug the drive and run photorec against it
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2516 [14:47:47] <choice> RoyK: 'unplug'?
2517 [14:47:47] <RoyK> from another machine or something
2518 [14:48:00] <BCMM> RoyK: it's not his root fs, and it's already unmounted
2519 [14:48:04] <choice> RoyK: The partition is not mounted.
2520 [14:48:15] <RoyK> ok, tried photorec?
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2522 [14:48:27] <shtrb> choice, please backup that data (disk/parttion) before any extra ction
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2525 [14:48:41] <RoyK> shtrb: indeed
2526 [14:48:59] <choice> extundelete recovered some files and called them just 'file.12345' etc.
2527 [14:49:04] <RoyK> choice: better try like shtrb said - ddrescue the whole drive to somewhere else and then try recovery from there
2528 [14:49:05] <choice> Maybe my file is among those.
2529 [14:49:21] <RoyK> choice: what sort of file is this?
2530 [14:49:29] <bites> MrKeuner: he probably meant this bug #869760
2531 [14:49:29] <choice> An sqlite3 db.
2532 [14:49:30] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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2534 [14:49:49] <RoyK> choice: then run 'file file.*' and grep for sqlite
2535 [14:50:05] <choice> RoyK: sqlite files have the string "sqlite" in them?
2536 [14:50:13] <RoyK> choice: man file ;)
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2538 [14:50:21] <choice> ah
2539 [14:50:29] <choice> But none of the files is big enough anyhow :(
2540 [14:50:42] <RoyK> then try photorec
2541 [14:50:46] <RoyK> probably the best choice
2542 [14:50:55] <shtrb> Wolf20180323, if you systemctl stop network-manager it will stop (for now) the service and you can work as you like , using disable will stop it from running all the time
2543 [14:50:59] <BCMM> RoyK: what's wrong with doing it all on the real drive, as long as its unmounted?
2544 [14:51:16] <RoyK> BCMM: not much, unless something is bad on the drive, physically
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2551 [14:51:50] <RoyK> BCMM: personally, I always start out with ddrescue and then work on the image
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2553 [14:52:00] <shtrb> BCMM, it is better to work on a backup that way if any corrupt the data you are not totally %@#% and you also have extra stuff you might need
2554 [14:52:07] <choice> "file" calls some of the recovered files "SQLite Rollback Journal". I guess that means they are sqlite files?
2555 [14:52:08] <RoyK> given I have space for it, though
2556 [14:52:20] <RoyK> choice: that's just the journal
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2558 [14:52:40] <RoyK> choice: sqlite creates those all the time and removes them after rolling back
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2560 [14:52:44] <RoyK> or commiting
2561 [14:52:51] <choice> RoyK: Is that stuff sqlite writes to /tmp/ or something?
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2564 [14:53:10] <g0zzy> Actually #mysql are suggesting that Debian packaging is causing a lot of problems
2565 [14:53:12] <RoyK> normally they are stored in the same directory as the sqlite database is
2566 [14:53:38] <RoyK> g0zzy: they say a lot in there, don't they? ;)
2567 [14:53:39] * g0zzy meant #mariab
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2571 [14:54:37] <g0zzy> "debian and its retarded permission setup for mysql/mariadb - the problem that just keeps resurfacing"
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2574 [14:55:39] <BCMM> g0zzy: is that supposed to be relevant to the sqlite problem above, or just venting?
2575 [14:55:41] <choice> Ok, let's try photorec.
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2577 [14:55:59] <choice> 'apt-get install testdisk'?
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2579 [14:56:33] <MrKeuner> bites, thanks
2580 [14:57:22] <g0zzy> BCMM: They seem to think so but i'm not interested in blaming only in knowing why and restoring
2581 [14:57:23] <choice> Wow, the photorec manpage is sparse on infos.
2582 [14:57:35] <choice> Should I just run 'photorec /dev/mypartition'?
2583 [14:57:38] <g0zzy> Can you help?
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2589 [14:59:18] <RoyK> choice: yes
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2591 [14:59:33] <choice> It seems to have some guided process...
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2595 [15:01:46] <choice> Ok.. photorec is running ...
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2599 [15:02:11] <choice> Nice, it automatically gives the files the right extension.
2600 [15:02:43] <RoyK> choice: probably with 'file' magick
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2602 [15:03:06] <choice> RoyK: Could be.
2603 [15:04:00] <choice> The ETA algo seems to be way off.
2604 [15:04:18] <choice> It's like 10 times slower then it estimates.
2605 [15:04:26] <RoyK> choice: with fat/ntfs, the filenames aren't lost, with extX, they are
2606 [15:04:42] <choice> I wonder what "mv a b" did.
2607 [15:04:57] <choice> I would assume it just changes pointers in the directory hirarchy.
2608 [15:05:00] <RoyK> choice: I guess that ETA may be a bit like replaced-url
2609 [15:05:14] <choice> Why would it read and write the data?
2610 [15:05:22] <greycat> choice: within the same file system, yes, that's what mv (rename) does
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2612 [15:05:40] <greycat> If the destination is in a different file system, then it has to copy-and-delete.
2613 [15:05:50] <choice> greycat: It's on the same partition.
2614 [15:05:56] <choice> It was just "mv a b".
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2616 [15:06:05] <choice> Just the filenames. No paths.
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2618 [15:06:15] <greycat> and "b" is not an existing directory?
2619 [15:06:26] <choice> greycat: "a" and "b" are both files.
2620 [15:06:39] <choice> Actually a.db and b.db. Two sqlite dbs.
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2622 [15:06:47] <RoyK> choice: have you considered setting up a backup of this system so that next time this happens, you can fix it more easily?
2623 [15:06:49] <greycat> then it's just a rename
2624 [15:06:59] <choice> photorec is finished.
2625 [15:07:07] <choice> "8959 files saved" .. let's see...
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2627 [15:07:10] <RoyK> choice: as I said replaced-url
2628 [15:07:16] <choice> RoyK: Yeah
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2630 [15:08:01] <choice> Hmm.. it has put the files in 18 directories.
2631 [15:08:07] <choice> Now how do I find the right one...
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2633 [15:08:24] <RoyK> choice: find /dir -type f -exec file {} \; | grep -i sqlite
2634 [15:08:27] <RoyK> for instance
2635 [15:08:39] <choice> ok ...
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2640 [15:09:20] <choice> Funny... it found a db. With 19MB. Way larger then the file I am missing.
2641 [15:09:36] <choice> But sqlite opens it. And it has *one* of the tables in it.
2642 [15:09:40] <choice> So what does that mean?
2643 [15:10:03] <choice> And the table is empty. Hmm...
2644 [15:10:07] <RoyK> choice: no idea
2645 [15:10:12] <RoyK> choice: possibly an old file
2646 [15:10:25] <choice> But there never was a 19MB version.
2647 [15:10:40] <RoyK> ok, and no backup, of course
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2649 [15:10:48] <RoyK> choice: what was it you had in this db?
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2652 [15:11:08] <choice> RoyK: My tasklist data of the last weeks.
2653 [15:11:38] <RoyK> choice: ok, so nothing important, then, I mean otherwise you would have backed it up, right ;)
2654 [15:11:46] <choice> It's super important.
2655 [15:11:56] <RoyK> then keep a bloody backup
2656 [15:11:59] <choice> I lose all info about my work for the last week or so if I cannot recover it.
2657 [15:12:24] <choice> Ok, I figured out what the recovered sqlite file is. It's indeed something else.
2658 [15:12:30] <RoyK> did you umount the drive just after this happened?
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2660 [15:12:50] <choice> RoyK: After a few 'ls' commands that I typed with horror in my face, yes.
2661 [15:12:57] <RoyK> good
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2663 [15:13:43] <RoyK> well, next up is to try to go through the disk itself
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2665 [15:14:16] <RoyK> I wrote a piece of software for tht some time back (I lost some pictures I had at an exhibition after a drive died)
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2671 [15:15:03] <choice> Strange that photorec did not recover the file.
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2675 [15:16:13] <RoyK> choice: not sure how it works, really
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2680 [15:17:55] <RoyK> choice: you may want to try 7.1 replaced-url
2681 [15:17:56] <choice> Ok, here comes the kicker!
2682 [15:18:15] <choice> Everyone ready to laugh at me / hate me?
2683 [15:18:31] * RoyK smiles and waits
2684 [15:18:34] <CappyT> Hi guys, anyone here can suggest me a solution for IAM? I'm a total newbie in the matter of auth services
2685 [15:18:47] <choice> RoyK: Well, I did not type "mv a.db b.db" as I thought.
2686 [15:19:12] <RoyK> then what?
2687 [15:19:23] <choice> RoyK: I typed 'mv a.db b.bdb'.
2688 [15:19:27] <choice> RoyK: That typo saved me!
2689 [15:19:30] <RoyK> :D
2690 [15:19:35] <choice> :)
2691 [15:19:39] <n4dir> hail to the typos !
2692 [15:20:03] * bug laughs
2693 [15:20:09] <choice> Thanks for all the help everybody!!!
2694 [15:20:19] <choice> I'm so happy :)
2695 [15:20:33] <choice> And the phone rings...
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2697 [15:20:41] <RoyK> choice: setup backup!
2698 [15:21:01] <bug> ^
2699 [15:21:10] <choice> Ok :)
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2718 [15:27:44] <RoyK> choice: I use duplicati - it's a bit heavy, but still, it works well, and with jottacloud as backend, since it's cheap and can store all of my data (almost 10TiB) for $7.50 a month
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2721 [15:28:44] <garries> I upgraded to Debian 9 (Stretch) and when i try to boot up I get theis screen replaced-url
2722 [15:29:39] <Wolf20180323> I solved the problem check this pastebin.com/yLuQZZcP if you need to do.penetration testing and use Wi-Fi on two different wireless interfaces/cards Thanks everyome for the ideas
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2726 [15:30:19] <Thedarkb> I think I'll try the non-free netinst
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2728 [15:31:33] <Tenkawa> garries: any more details?
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2730 [15:31:55] <Tenkawa> how? using which method? etc
2731 [15:32:16] <garries> Tenkawa: i updated from debian8 using command line
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2736 [15:33:26] <garries> Tenkawa: here is the tutorial i used.... replaced-url
2737 [15:34:00] <greycat> dpkg jessie->stretch
2738 [15:34:00] <dpkg> Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <release notes> replaced-url
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2742 [15:35:27] <garries> greycat: yea its the same advice as in the tutorial. i did the same
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2746 [15:36:24] <Tenkawa> thanks greycat i'll defer to you. I need to go afk
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2748 [15:36:52] <Tenkawa> and greetings btw
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2753 [15:37:16] <Tenkawa> bbl all
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2757 [15:38:19] <child> are there online the debian potato iso to download?
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2759 [15:38:54] <greycat> !archive
2760 [15:38:54] <dpkg> archive is, like, a collection of files. 'tar', 'ar', 'cpio' are all archiving tools. This is *not* the same as compression, which is a separate operation. Debian Archives is the repository for old Debian releases, see replaced-url
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2763 [15:40:21] <garries> greycat: what do think I should try ?
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2766 [15:40:46] <child> greycat: thank you =*
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2768 [15:41:48] <albttx> Can i recompile a kernel module inside a chroot (creating a live os)
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2775 [15:42:46] <child> greycat: the first one there is woody, didn't see potato
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2788 [15:50:04] <garries> I upgraded to Debian 9 (Stretch) and when i try to boot up it hangs. I get theis screen replaced-url
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2798 [15:54:16] <Thedarkb> The installer has me going in a loop
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2800 [15:54:36] <Thedarkb> I select the network, I put in the key and then it wants me to select the network.
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2804 [15:55:27] <permalink> guys , can you please take a look at the issue i raised here at 15:37:00 ?
2805 [15:55:36] <Thedarkb> Time zone?
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2816 [16:02:38] <SpeedyG> permalink: at 15:37 'my time' the only thing raised was a person saying 'bbl all' ...
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2820 [16:05:06] <SpeedyG> permalink: from the video you posted, might be a dead PSU...
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2826 [16:07:45] <SpeedyG> or some power-feedback through the second monitor which causes the fan to spin
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2836 [16:13:30] <jasperarcola> Hi, I'm running stretch and a service running under systemd coredumped, and I can't find the core dump... I've found the systemd-coredump but it's in stable-updates, not stable? So how do I capture and save coredumps on stretch?
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2840 [16:14:30] <Harm133> hey guys, somehow my cifs mount seems to be using out port 445 and trying to connect to a random high port.. This should be other way aroudn right
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2842 [16:15:01] <greycat> Is it working?
2843 [16:15:04] <Harm133> No
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2846 [16:15:32] <Harm133> it looks like 192.168.2.20 (445) -> 10.0.22.22 (58582)
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2848 [16:16:06] <Harm133> whereas it should be 192.168.2.20 (58582) -> 10.0.22.22 (445)
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2850 [16:16:14] <Harm133> never seen this behaviour...
2851 [16:16:21] <kompowiec2[m]> systemd is correct version?
2852 [16:16:33] <kompowiec2[m]> garries:
2853 [16:16:46] <Harm133> systemd 215
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2866 [16:24:36] <[E]sc> i'm using an nvidia card version: 375.82 on debian stretch. I get a lot of stutter when i play games like 3D games like urbanterror, is there a way to fix it?
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2870 [16:25:11] <greycat> start by identifying the video chipset: lspci -nn | grep -i vga
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2894 [16:35:56] <permalink> SpeedyG the PSU i fine , i also thought that and i changed the PSU right now i have the same problem
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2896 [16:36:33] <permalink> the PC won't boot with 2 monitors connected and as soon as i unplug one of the monitors the PC boots
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2904 [16:38:59] <permalink> but after it boots i can plug the second monitor and it recognizes it very well , all fine .
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2991 [17:30:39] <permalink> SpeedyG : i use Debian Stretch with KDE . i use open source drivers ( AMDGPU i think )
2992 [17:31:05] <permalink> btw in this case there is no need to create a xorg.conf file , right ?
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2998 [17:34:02] <pos> depends
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3006 [17:38:07] <zarez> Hello, does anyone explain me why I cannot ping google.com but I can resolveip google.com, wtf?
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3037 [17:51:15] <permalink> in case someone followed my issue , i think i fond a solution . the GPU is a HD 7770 GHz Editon ( with 1 DVI Dual Link , 2 mini DisplayPort, 1 HDMI) and i was using a DisplayPort to Mini Display-Port cable ( DP in one of the monitors an Mini DP in the GPU ) and apparently this cable has problems or the mini DP ports on the GPU
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3040 [17:52:48] <permalink> i switched that cable with a DP to DP cable ( the original cable of the Acer monitor) + a DP to mini DP adaptor and now the PC boots with both monitors connected and also the weird PSU sound is gone
3041 [17:53:21] <greycat> Nice.
3042 [17:54:58] <permalink> so in case you encounter such problems check the cable. this possibly faulty cable is made by Delock company and is white so i would suggest to check it be careful if you want to use it
3043 [17:55:13] <greycat> was it brand new?
3044 [17:55:21] <permalink> yes , unused
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3050 [17:58:53] <permalink> jesus i changed the PSU in vain . i was worried that the drivers might me the cause ..
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3058 [18:00:13] <permalink> i switched from Widows to Debian 6 months ago . it has been an interesting journey so far :) i like it
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3072 [18:07:03] <RoyK> permalink: widows or windows? ;)
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3079 [18:11:07] <permalink> RoyK Windows 10 aka The-MS-Botnet
3080 [18:12:25] <RoyK> guessed so ;)
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3099 [18:21:46] <nightcrow> Could someone help me?
3100 [18:23:19] <greycat> !ask
3101 [18:23:19] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
3102 [18:24:19] <nightcrow> okay then. On login I'm getting thrown into emergency mode, but root user is locked
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3104 [18:25:08] <[E]sc> greycat, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce GTX 750] [10de:1381] (rev a2)
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3108 [18:25:32] <nightcrow> fix?
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3110 [18:26:04] <greycat> !i forgot root's password
3111 [18:26:04] <dpkg> For GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt.
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3113 [18:26:54] <nightcrow> init=bin/sh gives a tty error
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3116 [18:27:12] <greycat> how did you get to this point?
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3118 [18:27:40] <nightcrow> poorly modified /etc/fstab
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3120 [18:28:26] <greycat> Sounds like there's more than one problem at work, but OK. If you can't boot from the hard drive, boot from your installer, and get to a shell with Ctrl-Alt-F2.
3121 [18:28:36] <greycat> !chroot
3122 [18:28:36] <dpkg> To chroot into your Debian system boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2). Mount your root filesystem with "mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target" and make /dev, /proc and /sys usable with "mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys". You can then chroot into the system with "chroot /target".
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3124 [18:28:53] <greycat> Then you can follow those steps, modify the files, re-run update-grub.
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3126 [18:29:13] <nightcrow> umm, I don't have a live disk/live cd
3127 [18:29:20] <greycat> whatever you installed with
3128 [18:29:23] <Offsec-Shreak> /msg Offsec-Shreak REGISTER <cisco9541> <kiararagc15@gmail.com>
3129 [18:29:31] <annadane> Offsec-Shreak, change your password
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3131 [18:29:53] <Offsec-Shreak> yah man thanks just was checking
3132 [18:30:15] <nightcrow> It came installed, greycat
3133 [18:31:17] <permalink> nightcrow try to make a bootable stick with Etcher
3134 [18:31:24] <permalink> and another laptop / PC
3135 [18:31:48] <nightcrow> how will that work when it's having issues with fstab?
3136 [18:32:06] <nightcrow> will it recognize something else first?
3137 [18:32:13] <greycat> you need some way to boot a working Linux system and mount the partition that has the broken fstab file
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3139 [18:32:22] <greycat> then you can edit the file
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3141 [18:32:38] <nightcrow> and how can that be done, is the issue?
3142 [18:32:55] <greycat> multiple ways have been suggested
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3146 [18:33:49] <nightcrow> and I don't understand how any will work. Putting a usb key won't work because it doesn't recognize it prior to trying to mount
3147 [18:34:19] <greycat> If the USB device is bootable, then your BIOS boots from that. Once booted, you can attempt to mount the hard drive's partitions.
3148 [18:34:20] <permalink> nightcrow use a working pc to make the bbotable usb
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3150 [18:34:56] <nightcrow> I'm not sure that's true, greycat
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3160 [18:35:44] <nightcrow> I've put a bootable usb in before and it didn't seem to work
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3162 [18:36:06] <greycat> If your computer is very old, it may not be able to boot USB. Or the firmware/BIOS may have been configured not to.
3163 [18:36:25] <nightcrow> if either is true, what's next step?
3164 [18:36:49] <greycat> Make a bootable CD-ROM.
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3166 [18:37:08] <greycat> (or in the latter case, go into the firmware/BIOS and tell it to boot the USB device)
3167 [18:37:29] <zy]x[yz> from the a package page at debian.org, how can I tell which repo the package lives in?
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3170 [18:38:00] <nightcrow> how would that help greycat? same usb issue
3171 [18:38:14] <greycat> I think it says "contrib" or "non-free" somewhere on the page if it's not in main.
3172 [18:38:19] <zy]x[yz> oh, I see it. it's in the title line in braces. thanks
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3174 [18:39:02] <nightcrow> wouldn't an external dvd drive have the same issues?
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3176 [18:39:26] <greycat> are you saying it does not have a CD or DVD drive at all?
3177 [18:39:33] <nightcrow> nope
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3179 [18:39:44] <greycat> No, you're not saying that, or no, it does not have one?
3180 [18:39:59] <nightcrow> well actually yes, that is what I am saying
3181 [18:40:20] <greycat> Then it's GOT to be new enough to boot USB. Go into the firmware (F1 or F10 or ESC or F12 or god knows what key at boot time) and figure it out.
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3184 [18:41:11] <nightcrow> I'm not sure if they disabled usb boot though
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3186 [18:41:21] <greycat> go into the firmware and find out
3187 [18:41:56] <nightcrow> I don't know how to get into the firmware
3188 [18:42:01] <nightcrow> that's the rub
3189 [18:42:14] <greycat> if you can't figure it out by banging the keys then google your model number and find the manual
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3196 [18:43:12] <nightcrow> ahh, there is no way to do it
3197 [18:43:14] <nightcrow> nice
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3202 [18:43:52] <greycat> OK, then install a fresh copy of Debian on a new hard drive and put the new hard drive into the machine.
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3207 [18:44:14] <nightcrow> the machine doesn't have a hard drive...
3208 [18:44:27] <greycat> What the fuck does it have? A gerbil?
3209 [18:44:35] <nightcrow> microsd card
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3211 [18:45:56] <permalink> nightcrow do you use some sort of SBC ? Raspberry Pi , Odroid
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3213 [18:46:04] <nightcrow> yes
3214 [18:46:10] <nightcrow> raspberry pi
3215 [18:46:41] <greycat> Is it even Debian, or is it Raspbian?
3216 [18:47:31] <nightcrow> Responds to /etc/debian_version as 9.4
3217 [18:47:32] <permalink> idk about Rasberry but on my Orange Pi Prime i use Armbian 5.38 and it works very well
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3219 [18:48:19] <nightcrow> permalink, yeah, but you didn't fuck up your fstab
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3221 [18:49:09] <nightcrow> if I have to reinstall, I'll lose about 10 months worth of work
3222 [18:49:28] <annadane> is anyone unable to find the streamlink package in backports... received an email saying it was accepted to backports and it's been a while (apt update'd and all the usual stuff), i wonder if the mirror for backports is just really really delayed
3223 [18:49:37] <annadane> i guess i can try to use another mirror
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3228 [18:51:01] <nightcrow> so I'm trying to figure out how to recover rather than reinstall...
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3233 [18:52:07] <alkisg> nightcrow: do you have an sd card reader, to put it in your pc and fix things?
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3236 [18:52:40] <nightcrow> alkisg, the sd reader doesn't recognize the ext4 partition
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3239 [18:53:04] <nightcrow> or rathee, the win box doesn't
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3241 [18:53:28] <alkisg> Yes you'd need a linux box
3242 [18:53:43] <nightcrow> which I don't have
3243 [18:53:43] <alkisg> Or even a linux live cd to boot your pc with
3244 [18:53:59] <nightcrow> which I also don't have
3245 [18:54:06] <alkisg> You can create a live usb stick
3246 [18:54:13] <alkisg> If you don't have anything to boot linux, you won't bootl inux
3247 [18:54:15] <permalink> nightcrow try to clone the SC cad as it is now then install a Debian or whatever VM in windows with VirtualBox or VMWare
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3249 [18:54:32] <permalink> and see if you can read it from the VM
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3251 [18:54:37] <permalink> mount it
3252 [18:54:54] <nightcrow> permalink, how well does vm work on an older machine?
3253 [18:54:56] <annadane> well whatever, it hasn't been that long, i'll wait
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3255 [18:55:09] <annadane> (it's available in virtualenv anyway)
3256 [18:55:20] <permalink> what specs u have on this old pc ? cpu and ram
3257 [18:56:24] <nightcrow> 512 mb ran
3258 [18:56:34] <nightcrow> p4 1.6 ghz
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3262 [18:57:23] <nightcrow> was a cheap desktop when I got it in 2002
3263 [18:58:33] <permalink> damn :)) that hurts . idk if p4 supports virtualisation . if you had 1,5 -2 gb ram and an old dual core it would have worked . you don't have to install the VM with a GUI
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3265 [18:58:53] <johnfg> hi folks!
3266 [18:59:09] <nightcrow> And yes, I'm painfully aware that the specs on it are not much better than the pi, and with less RAM
3267 [18:59:09] <johnfg> well, I'm on stretch on my main server and most all is working!
3268 [18:59:33] <johnfg> Thanks to greycat and others who helped on my dist-upgrade.
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3271 [19:00:10] <johnfg> openafs-client did not upgrade (I'd had some trouble in jessie too, and had to revert to an older kernel.
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3276 [19:04:33] <permalink> nightcrow i would halp you if you were in my city lol . try to fing a friend willing to let you temporary install a VM on his machine
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3285 [19:06:04] <alkisg> Or just create a live usb stick/cd :)
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3363 [19:44:58] <_rubik> Hey all. I just bumped into a command called 'short', used in the context of generating/converint (?) a .short.yaml to .yaml. I can't find documentation on this anywhere. Does anyone know about it?
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3365 [19:45:59] <greycat> there's a #yaml channel ... maybe they know?
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3367 [19:46:29] <_rubik> good call
3368 [19:46:39] <johnfg> Ok, I had to install linux-headers (don't know why they didn't get installed in the dist-upgrade, then dpkg-reconfigure openafs-modules-dkms, and now I'm back in business!
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3374 [19:48:06] <geoja> Hi, I am having an issue installing debian. I have a live USB. When I set my computer to use UEFI, the display is strange.
3375 [19:48:17] <geoja> Lines that are supposed to be vertical are diagonal.
3376 [19:48:31] <johnfg> greycat: On my other stretch machine here in the office, I can't get my canon printer to print.
3377 [19:48:32] <geoja> When I set my computer to legacy BIOS, no problem.
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3379 [19:49:00] <greycat> so why did you put my name in front of that?
3380 [19:49:12] <garries> I upgraded to Debian 9 (Stretch) and when i try to boot up I get theis screen replaced-url
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3385 [19:52:36] <geoja> How could I look into what's wrong?
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3396 [19:55:00] <greycat> AUTHOR
3397 [19:55:00] <greycat> pam_unix was written by various people.
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3405 [19:57:12] <greycat> why wouldn't they just remove the AUTHOR section...?
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3409 [19:57:43] <garries> can i get help regarding a failed bootup of my new Strech ?
3410 [19:58:03] <johnfg_> Looking at journalctl -u cups, there's a wierd line: Mar 30 11:41:32 churchdebian /hpfax[6727]: [6727]: error: Failed to create /var/spool/cups/tmp/.hplip, and I don't have *any* hp!
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3413 [19:58:36] <johnfg_> And nothing of hp shows up either in Print Settings, or at localhost:631.
3414 [19:58:44] <johnfg_> What to do to get rid of this?
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3420 [20:03:55] <geoja> So no one has had this problem of wrong display on UEFI native?
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3431 [20:07:46] <johnfg_> I removed hplip, and then autoremoved the rest associated that I didn't need, but still not printing.
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3461 [20:29:05] <OtakuSenpai> hello
3462 [20:29:20] <OtakuSenpai> jelly: can you help me in solving my fan issue
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3464 [20:30:29] <annadane> OtakuSenpai, or if you post your question maybe *anyone* can try their hand at solving it
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3466 [20:31:16] <OtakuSenpai> annadane: yesterday i tried to solve my laptops issue of fan not starting up at boot time
3467 [20:31:22] <OtakuSenpai> in ##hardware
3468 [20:31:52] <OtakuSenpai> they said it might not be a hardware issue, as the fan settings were accessible and ok from bios
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3470 [20:32:20] <OtakuSenpai> so i thought if i could try to look at the software side of the problem
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3477 [20:35:01] <OtakuSenpai> also cgmanager.service systemd service has recently stopped working in my laptop
3478 [20:35:10] <OtakuSenpai> idk if its related
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3481 [20:37:04] <OtakuSenpai> anyone might help?
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3485 [20:38:48] <OtakuSenpai> do i need to provide some specific info?
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3487 [20:40:51] <PhotoJim> some fans are software-controlled, not BIOS-controlled
3488 [20:41:02] <PhotoJim> but I've not owned a machine with that configuration, so I've not learned how to deal with it
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3490 [20:41:25] <OtakuSenpai> i hav hp g5 245
3491 [20:41:37] <OtakuSenpai> thts the laptops model
3492 [20:41:58] <Thedarkb> Hey PhotoJim
3493 [20:42:16] <PhotoJim> Thedarkb: hey
3494 [20:42:16] <Thedarkb> Fancy seeing you here.
3495 [20:42:18] <Thedarkb> :)
3496 [20:42:20] <PhotoJim> I get around :)
3497 [20:42:33] <Thedarkb> I've been having trouble with wifi
3498 [20:42:36] <Thedarkb> as is tradition.
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3500 [20:42:57] <PhotoJim> heh
3501 [20:43:00] <PhotoJim> WiFi and Linux are fun
3502 [20:43:14] <PhotoJim> I use wire whenever I can :) and I've replaced WiFi NICs with good Intel ones in laptops precisely to have better compatibility
3503 [20:43:25] <Thedarkb> I might switch it out, it's iffy anyway.
3504 [20:43:33] <PhotoJim> Intel cards are cheap and good
3505 [20:43:40] <Thedarkb> It is an Intel card :)
3506 [20:43:43] <PhotoJim> and usually easy to install
3507 [20:43:46] <PhotoJim> oh, should be OK then
3508 [20:43:56] <Thedarkb> It's got drivers but I can't get it to work.
3509 [20:44:09] <Thedarkb> It keeps getting soft blocked by something.
3510 [20:44:20] <Thedarkb> and even if I unblock it with rfkill, it won't work.
3511 [20:44:28] <Thedarkb> any ideas?
3512 [20:44:46] <Thedarkb> If I am going to get another one, it'll have to be mini PCI not PCIe
3513 [20:44:56] <Thedarkb> Old laptop.
3514 [20:45:03] <PhotoJim> how old?
3515 [20:45:06] <Thedarkb> 2005
3516 [20:45:12] <PhotoJim> what CPU?
3517 [20:45:28] <Thedarkb> Low voltage Pentium M Banias.
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3519 [20:45:32] <PhotoJim> is it a BIOS incompatibility? some BIOSes only allow certain whitelisted cards
3520 [20:45:32] <Thedarkb> 1.4ghz
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3523 [20:45:37] <Thedarkb> Nah, it's the right card.
3524 [20:45:41] <Thedarkb> It works under Lubuntu
3525 [20:45:49] <PhotoJim> but not Debian, hmm
3526 [20:46:00] <Thedarkb> I know I have an identical spare somewhere
3527 [20:46:10] <Thedarkb> I have a bit of a hoard.
3528 [20:46:30] <Thedarkb> At the moment I'm restoring my backup over USB 1.1 -_-
3529 [20:46:37] <Thedarkb> I might have another crack at Debian though.
3530 [20:46:38] <PhotoJim> that's painful :)
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3532 [20:46:54] <Thedarkb> I would use my USB 2.0 CardBus card in it but the slot's broken.
3533 [20:46:59] <Thedarkb> and by broken I mean torn off.
3534 [20:47:12] <nullbyte_> how can i remove this from apt-get update is invalid repo
3535 [20:47:14] <nullbyte_> E: The repository 'replaced-url
3536 [20:47:16] <PhotoJim> I've actually only got Debian running on one machine that has a GUI (I normally use it on headless machines)
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3538 [20:47:19] <PhotoJim> ouch
3539 [20:47:25] <nullbyte_> to get a work apt-get update
3540 [20:47:29] <Thedarkb> Previous owner must have abused this thing.
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3542 [20:47:46] <Thedarkb> There are chunks taken out of the metal case.
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3546 [20:48:20] <Thedarkb> Anyway, bought it on ebay as "for parts or not working" shoved an SSD in it and I've been using it as a dedicated youtube machine more or less.
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3554 [20:49:26] <PhotoJim> cool
3555 [20:49:27] <Thedarkb> It's also worth noting that the Wifi works under TinyCore Linux.
3556 [20:49:31] <PhotoJim> does it have a wired Ethernet port?
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3558 [20:49:34] <Thedarkb> Yeah
3559 [20:49:42] <PhotoJim> that might be your workaround :)
3560 [20:49:43] <Thedarkb> That's what I've been using.
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3562 [20:50:01] <Thedarkb> I do need Wifi though.
3563 [20:50:03] <PhotoJim> I've got a couple of old 802.11g USB sticks I use for emergencies. well-supported under Linux.
3564 [20:50:11] <PhotoJim> I got them for about $3 at Office Depot years ago.
3565 [20:50:12] <nullbyte_> who knows
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3567 [20:50:38] <Thedarkb> I find the mac address randomization thing in the GNOME network manager screws up a lot of older cards.
3568 [20:50:59] <Thedarkb> I have a Ralink USB adapter which works well under Linux but chokes when you try to change its MAC address
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3570 [20:51:12] <PhotoJim> ahh, you're doing some tricky stuff
3571 [20:51:21] <PhotoJim> I don't do torrents or anything so I don't obfuscate my MACs
3572 [20:51:30] <Thedarkb> Ubuntu does it by default.
3573 [20:51:36] <Thedarkb> As does Debian with GNOME
3574 [20:51:40] <LtL> nullbyte_: edit /etc/apt/sources.list remove the ppa repo and run apt-get update, or apt update
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3579 [20:51:52] <Thedarkb> I'm an LXDE person mainly but I do tend to use the GNOME Network Manager.
3580 [20:51:56] * PhotoJim nods
3581 [20:52:03] <bug> nullbyte_, you can comment out that line in /etc/apt/sources.list
3582 [20:52:06] <Thedarkb> It's just 1 line in the config to turn it off.
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3588 [20:56:41] <Thedarkb1> Lagged out there.
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3595 [20:58:19] <nullbyte_> o
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3645 [21:24:10] <Thedarkb> Yeah, I restored my Lubuntu backup and the card works fine.
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3647 [21:24:20] <Thedarkb> I've tried Debian non-free too but it still won't work.
3648 [21:24:23] <Thedarkb> Any ideas?
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3651 [21:24:30] <Thedarkb> oldstable maybe?
3652 [21:24:44] <geoja> Hi, I am trying to install Debian from a live usb. If I set my computer to UEFI, the display is wrong. Legacy works fine though.
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3654 [21:24:54] <geoja> Any idea how to fix this?
3655 [21:25:04] <petemc> use bios
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3657 [21:25:18] <petemc> or try to update efi
3658 [21:25:37] <geoja> petemc: What does update efi mean? Use a newer .efi file?
3659 [21:26:25] <petemc> your machines firmware
3660 [21:26:35] <geoja> Ok will try to do it.
3661 [21:27:44] <petemc> your problem is vertical lines being horizontal? thats pretty crazy
3662 [21:28:07] <Thedarkb> Heard of it happening before.
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3664 [21:28:30] <petemc> lots of monitors support changingg orientation
3665 [21:28:30] <Thedarkb> I had some crazy shit happen when I used the wrong microcode with my GPU
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3667 [21:28:36] <OtakuSenpai> \/w 27
3668 [21:28:43] <petemc> could be monitor thing
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3675 [21:33:54] <OtakuSenpai> hello
3676 [21:33:59] <OtakuSenpai> ccan anyone help me
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3678 [21:34:18] <OtakuSenpai> pls
3679 [21:35:05] <annadane> OtakuSenpai, i happen to know you posted a question before, but not everyone does. if a sufficient amount of time passes before someone has answered your question then feel free to post it again
3680 [21:35:16] <annadane> also, those who just entered won't have scrollback
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3686 [21:39:32] <OtakuSenpai> yesterday i had a talk about my laptops fan not working properly in ##Hardware, and they found out tht its not a hardware issue, so i thought i did give the software side a hand on it, and also the cgmanager.service systemd service isnt working properly
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3688 [21:40:54] <geoja> petemc: Updated my bios/efi and still have the same problem.
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3690 [21:41:26] <geoja> Thedarkb: Any idea how to fix this? Should I maybe get the microcode somewhere and put it in the liveusb somehow?
3691 [21:41:33] <Thedarkb> Nah, no idea.
3692 [21:41:47] <petemc> geoja: do you have a compelling reason to use uefi?
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3698 [21:45:03] <geoja> petemc: Nope.
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3702 [21:45:51] <geoja> I just thought it was newer than bios so better use newer software than older/possibly sooner to get deprecated one :).
3703 [21:46:37] <petemc> if you have a larger than 2
3704 [21:46:55] <petemc> TB root you need it, otherwise no
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3706 [21:47:07] <OtakuSenpai> yesterday i had a talk about my laptops fan not working properly in ##Hardware, and they found out tht its not a hardware issue, so i thought i did give the software side a hand on it, and also the cgmanager.service systemd service isnt working properly
3707 [21:47:41] <geoja> petemc: If this message was for me, I didn't get it.
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3710 [21:49:05] <petemc> bios can only address volumes less than 2TB, if you want larger usae efi or add a 1MB biosboot partition
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3712 [21:49:28] <petemc> if this doesnt make sense to you, use bios
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3714 [21:49:46] <geoja> Oh well this laptop has an ssd inside that is certainly not 2TB
3715 [21:49:51] <geoja> certainly less :).
3716 [21:50:06] <petemc> all good then :)
3717 [21:50:16] <geoja> But still, I'm wondering what is causing this. How could I go about troubleshooting this?
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3719 [21:50:23] <geoja> Maybe there is some logs somewhere?
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3722 [21:50:44] <D3stiny_> Hi
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3730 [21:52:03] <D3stiny_> I just installed mysql-server mysql-client and mysql-common but, when I do "sudo -u root -p" a message appeared and tell me "MariaDB monitor"
3731 [21:52:07] <petemc> geoja: it sounds like a low level hardware communication issue
3732 [21:52:12] <D3stiny_> But, I never installed mariadb-server
3733 [21:52:17] <D3stiny_> Is this normal?
3734 [21:52:21] <greycat> mariadb replaced mysql in stretch
3735 [21:52:29] <D3stiny_> Ooooooh... okay okay
3736 [21:52:50] <D3stiny_> So, if I do "apt install mysql-server" it will install mariadb-server ?
3737 [21:52:52] <D3stiny_> Thats it?
3738 [21:53:04] <D3stiny_> Sorry ahah, I'm not a pro
3739 [21:53:09] <annadane> indeed
3740 [21:53:13] <greycat> ,info mysql-server
3741 [21:53:14] <judd> Package mysql-server (database, optional) in stretch/amd64: MySQL database server binaries and system database setup [transitional]. Version: 5.5.9999+default; Size: 1.7k; Installed: 8k
3742 [21:53:37] <greycat> "transitional" -- probably too subtle, was hoping for something a bit more explicit there
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3744 [21:54:31] <greycat> ,depends default-mysql-server
3745 [21:54:32] <judd> Package default-mysql-server in stretch/amd64 -- depends: mariadb-server-10.1.
3746 [21:54:46] <OtakuSenpai> yesterday i had a talk about my laptops fan not working properly in ##Hardware, and they found out tht its not a hardware issue, so i thought i did give the software side a hand on it, and also the cgmanager.service systemd service isnt working properly
3747 [21:54:50] <D3stiny_> Okaaaay
3748 [21:54:57] <D3stiny_> So its a dependance, thats it?
3749 [21:55:10] <D3stiny_> Thanks guys, and sorry for stealing ur time
3750 [21:55:22] <annadane> not at all. we're here specifically for this kind of thing
3751 [21:55:35] <annadane> also because some of us are addicted to irc but anyway...
3752 [21:56:21] <geoja> petemc: Yes, it is weird, horizonral lines are displayed properly thought. Only the vertical ones are all tilted..
3753 [21:56:31] <geoja> Anyways, bios it is then :(.
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3760 [21:58:18] <geoja> petemc: UEFI with GCM looks fine though.
3761 [21:58:31] <petemc> i dont know what that is
3762 [21:58:44] <geoja> Was it "GCM"? Maybe "GMS".. I forgot the acronym..
3763 [21:58:50] <geoja> Something called hybrid uefi
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3766 [21:59:50] <annadane> OtakuSenpai, and if nobody does answer you here you can also try the mailing list: debian-user@lists.debian.org
3767 [22:00:04] <OtakuSenpai> :C
3768 [22:00:19] <petemc> geoja: does the "tilting" occur before debian boots?
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3772 [22:01:47] <geoja> petemc: Nope, after. Actually, I have the first screen, the grub menu, displayed correctly.
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3774 [22:02:04] <petemc> huh
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3776 [22:02:23] <OtakuSenpai> yesterday i had a talk about my laptops fan not working properly in ##Hardware, and they found out tht its not a hardware issue, so i thought i did give the software side a hand on it, and also the cgmanager.service systemd service isnt working properly
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3779 [22:03:15] <petemc> geoja: then it doesnt sound like hardware, sorry
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3788 [22:07:12] <geoja> petemc: Hmm, I'm not sure I can solve it myself anyway :(.
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3790 [22:07:33] <petemc> you solved it already, bios works
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3793 [22:08:29] <geoja> Oh, CSM was the acronym.
3794 [22:08:51] <geoja> Well, it does boot, but I still don't get what went wrong.
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3797 [22:10:09] <OtakuSenpai> yesterday i had a talk about my laptops fan not working properly in ##Hardware, and they found out tht its not a hardware issue, so i thought i did give the software side a hand on it, and also the cgmanager.service systemd service isnt working properly
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3804 [22:14:48] <mete> any good advice guy, I would like to upgrade one of my last systems from debian 8 to 9, but I would like to prevent 'upgrading' mysql to mariaDB, is there any easy solution for this?
3805 [22:15:06] <greycat> why?
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3808 [22:15:48] <TyrfingMjolnir> Is there a script that can be run to write down everything that is available of hardware on a PC I randomly boot?
3809 [22:15:52] <TyrfingMjolnir> Preforably a rescue boot of some sorts.
3810 [22:16:00] <annadane> mariadb as far as i know has identical functionality to mysql, it's just a fork not owned by oracle
3811 [22:16:02] <mete> because mariaDB is in this specific case slower in answering queries than mysql is, unfortunately
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3816 [22:19:12] <greycat> well, that sounds like a problem you really ought to sort out in the mariadb configs... but... looks like you can blacklist a package in /etc/apt/preferences according to replaced-url
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3819 [22:19:57] <mete> thanks greycat, will clone the VM and try it out :)
3820 [22:20:42] <mete> it seems simply, that mriaDB is slower for min/max/avg queries over many records...
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3823 [22:21:11] <mete> as each query is single threaded, and the whole CPU core is busy, there I think isn't much to optimize
3824 [22:21:11] <greycat> compared to the same version of mysql? or compared to an older version?
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3827 [22:21:36] <mete> mysql is and older one
3828 [22:21:48] <mete> but even the newest mysql is still a bit faster, 5-10%
3829 [22:21:54] <mete> even tried percona...
3830 [22:22:45] <umbrellawet> ccs?
3831 [22:23:24] <umbrellawet> here creditcard?
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3841 [22:29:59] <OtakuSenpai> yesterday i had a talk about my laptops fan not working properly in ##Hardware, and they found out tht its not a hardware issue, so i thought i did give the software side a hand on it, and also the cgmanager.service systemd service isnt working properly
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3868 [22:48:14] <dutchfish> OtakuSenpai, thats 2 questions? maybe for the first one, have a look at fancontrol if your bios doesnt support that in acpi. The second question might be that in stable on some systems systemd doesnt quiet get cgroups see: replaced-url
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3871 [22:49:21] <dutchfish> OtakuSenpai, assuming you are trying to start a container like lxc
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3920 [23:16:05] <l0gic__> does debian support athos10k?
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3925 [23:19:20] <Tom_-> i don't know, have you checked duckduckgo.com/google? and wiki.debian.org
3926 [23:19:27] <Tom_-> sounds like it probably does
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3930 [23:20:22] <abrotman> dpkg: ath10k
3931 [23:20:22] <dpkg> ath10k is a Linux kernel driver supporting PCIe 802.11ac (a/b/g/n compatible) wireless LAN devices based on the Qualcomm Atheros QCA988x 2.0 family of chips (PCI IDs 168c:003c, 168c:abcd). Introduced at Linux 3.11. Firmware from userspace is required and not currently packaged (bug #724970), ask me about <ath10k firmware>. replaced-url
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3935 [23:23:47] <foul_owl> Anyone know of a clipboard manager that allows you to stick entries?
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3963 [23:32:18] <Emil> so umm
3964 [23:32:28] <Emil> deluser --remove-all-files is broken on debian
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3966 [23:33:06] <annadane> stable? and broken how
3967 [23:33:13] <l0gic__> dpkg: athos10k firmware
3968 [23:33:14] <dpkg> l0gic__: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
3969 [23:33:26] <l0gic__> dpkg: ath10k firmware
3970 [23:33:27] <dpkg> Firmware required by the <ath10k> driver is currently not available from the <linux-firmware> repository. See replaced-url
3971 [23:33:28] <Emil> annadane: 9.4 stable yeah, requires package perl-modules but that does not exist
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3973 [23:33:40] <Emil> annadane: it suggests perl-base
3974 [23:33:44] <Emil> but that's already installed
3975 [23:33:45] <annadane> uhhhhh
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3977 [23:33:50] <annadane> that... is weird
3978 [23:34:15] <Emil> it's particularly the --remove-all-files that's broken
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3983 [23:36:14] <hypn0> replaced-url
3984 [23:36:21] <Emil> oh could be
3985 [23:36:22] <Emil> that
3986 [23:36:32] <annadane> yeah, that's the default
3987 [23:36:33] <l0gic__> so i guess my firmware i need is in backports, how would i go about getting it?
3988 [23:36:48] <annadane> i know that because it constantly showed up in my autoremove after an upgrade of stable > sid
3989 [23:37:08] <Emil> yeah lol forgot the apt-get update
3990 [23:37:19] <annadane> you're silly. :)
3991 [23:37:28] <Emil> it could suggest that though
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3999 [23:45:27] <Dirkson> Hey all. Having an issue with python3-distutils 3.6.5-1 and libpython3.6-stdlib 3.6.5-1 both trying to overwrite the same file. How do I tell apt "No, just remove these, stop trying to fix this impossible situation"?
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4004 [23:47:16] <garries> my newly ungraded debian9 doesnt boot up. here is the screen it hangs on replaced-url
4005 [23:48:32] <annadane> Dirkson, so first off, you're using testing/sid; the channel for that for future reference is #debian-next on irc.oftc.net; second, replaced-url
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4007 [23:49:24] <annadane> i get that you're asking "how do i tell apt this" and not "why is this happening" but yeah, #debian-next on oftc is the right channel for that
4008 [23:50:07] <annadane> Dirkson, message 19 provides one user's solution: replaced-url
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4014 [23:51:13] <annadane> sorry, replaced-url
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