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10 [00:02:08] <awal1> so, how can I make NM manage my both wifi cards (internal one and usb one) but only connect to my home wifi via one of them when login in X?
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13 [00:03:38] <awal1> not planing to disable one of them, but have them managed by nm and ready to use; just tell nm "when user A connects to X, use adapter 1 instead of b)
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21 [00:08:10] <awal1> if fact they are managed both , right now; nm just gets confused which one to connect when in X
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24 [00:09:04] <petn-randall> dfstorm: you need to log out and in again for group changes to take effect.
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27 [00:11:14] <awal1> nm usually connects only to internal card but sometimes it tries to connect to both adapter and it gets lost which thing results in not connecting at all
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34 [00:12:40] <dfstorm> petn-randall: I rebooted a couple of time :)
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36 [00:14:13] <awal1> for now I am forced to proceed as follow: disconnect both adapters, disable then networking(right clic on nm-applet) and choose the card I want to use. wondering if there is an elegant/automated way
37 [00:14:26] <awal1> disable then enable ^
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42 [00:16:20] <awal1> in X my usb wifi adapter is detected by nm but why it is not listed in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules?
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44 [00:16:40] <awal1> there I just see etho + wlan0
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46 [00:17:26] <mateliveinstall> a friend who has booted up Debian 9 MATE LIVE is asking me : "Where is the install button or option"? Can Debian 9.04 be installed on the harddisk from a MATE Live session?
47 [00:17:55] <awal1> dpkg: live image
48 [00:17:55] <dpkg> awal1: I wish you would RTFM.
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50 [00:18:16] <petn-randall> mateliveinstall: The live images are not really usable for installatoin. Better use the network installer for that.
51 [00:18:20] <petn-randall> Or rather:
52 [00:18:25] <petn-randall> !firmware installer
53 [00:18:25] <dpkg> Debian-Installer is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See replaced-url
54 [00:18:31] <petn-randall> !firmware images
55 [00:18:32] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See replaced-url
56 [00:18:39] <petn-randall> mateliveinstall: These here. ^^^
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58 [00:18:44] <dfstorm> petn-randall: Well... Did exactly the same thing with an archlinux guest... it work as expected... I tried again the same thing with a fresh debian stable again... got the same bug with group then after reboot same write acces problem... It realy bugs me.
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61 [00:19:18] <mateliveinstall> netinstall if you don't have internet access?
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63 [00:19:47] <mateliveinstall> He has NO internet acccess at present
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65 [00:20:05] <awal1> less clue about udev here
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68 [00:22:07] <petn-randall> mateliveinstall: Then he needs the DVD images.
69 [00:22:17] <mateliveinstall> replaced-url
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74 [00:23:14] <awal1> I don't understand why my usb wifi adapter detected as 'wlxc83a35cc0377' by iwconfig is not listed/detected by /lib/udev/write_net_rules
75 [00:23:32] <petn-randall> awal1: Why should it? It's a removable device.
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78 [00:24:02] <petn-randall> awal1: persistence only makes sense with things that are ... persistent.
79 [00:24:25] <petn-randall> Otherwise that file would quickly get cluttered by all device you've ever connected to it.
80 [00:24:33] <awal1> petn-randall, ok, good point (persistent-net-generator.rules)
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82 [00:25:06] <petn-randall> mateliveinstall: As I said, it might work, but the live images get a lot less testing and I honestly wouldn't know how to install with them.
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86 [00:26:03] <awal1> so if I wanted to make my system detect my removal media (usb wifi adapter 'wlxc83a35cc0377') what I am supposed to be looking for?
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88 [00:26:20] <awal1> detect my removable media since boot
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91 [00:27:43] <petn-randall> awal1: It does that without interaction. If the drivers exist, they'll be automatically loaded.
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101 [00:29:35] <awal1> petn-randall, I am just confused. the wifi usb is detected and works thanks to 'firmware-misc-nonfree', ralink stuff, but it is not on until I am in X and after reloading nm
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107 [00:31:02] <awal1> when I log in X I see my wifi adapter listed by nm-applet but usually disconnected; I have to right clic in nm-applet icon, disable networking and enable again, for be able to use it
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109 [00:31:40] <awal1> to use the usb wifi adapter ^
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122 [00:38:02] <petn-randall> awal1: I'd check the logs why that is.
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145 [00:47:31] <awal1> petn-randall, I already checked dmesg and journalctl and found a lot of line referring to my usb wlxc83a35cc0377 but no errors. I will check again later quietly
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260 [01:48:00] <jim> anonnumberanon, maybe nothing came out stdout and it all came out stderr... try putting a "2>&1" before the |
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263 [01:48:48] <friend_to_pandas> if I uninstall xserver-xorg-video-intel, when will the backup modesetting driver kick in? do I need to reboot?
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298 [02:16:27] <friend_to_pandas> On my laptop's Windows 10 partition, I can connect to external monitors through the HDMI and VGA ports -- even both at the same time -- but on Debian 9.3, only the VGA works: xrandr does not even show an HDMI port option.
299 [02:16:37] <friend_to_pandas> HDMI is mentioned twice in .local/share/Xorg.0.log: "[ 16.981] (II) NOUVEAU(G0): Output HDMI-1-1 has no monitor section" "17.129] (II) NOUVEAU(G0): EDID for output HDMI-1-1"
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305 [02:23:59] <klys> friend_to_pandas, do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
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309 [02:27:41] <friend_to_pandas> klys: No. find returns ./usr/share/man/man5/xorg.conf.5.gz ./usr/share/man/man5/xorg.conf.d.5.gz ./usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d ./usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-video-intel/xorg.conf
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406 [03:29:29] <christer> PLEASE help me, I am getting perl error warning: perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
407 [03:29:29] <christer> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
408 [03:29:29] <christer> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
409 [03:29:29] <christer> LANGUAGE = "en_US",
410 [03:29:29] <christer> LC_ALL = (unset),
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418 [03:32:21] <toruvinn> sigh. that's not even an error
419 [03:32:43] <toruvinn> and he /quit anyway. argh.
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422 [03:33:27] <toruvinn> to ops, perhaps making debhelper kick with "dont paste in the channel, use a paste site (/msg dpkg paste)" would be better?
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447 [03:44:39] <zzing> If I am using a root partition that has been setup with luks (password, no key file) do I have to add hooks for update-initramfs to catch for it to mount it at boot?
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522 [04:51:15] <K_> Hello
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525 [04:51:28] <K_> Is there a channel where I can discuss privacy concerns with Debian?
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530 [04:53:11] <awal1> K_, be more explicit
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538 [04:55:27] <K_> awal1 I found an old discussion about Debian using Google DNS as a fallback when regular DNS fails or none is configured (configuration removed) here: replaced-url
539 [04:55:28] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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545 [05:03:02] <K_> Where could I discuss this issue please? I'm curious if the Google DNS fallback is still being used in Debian
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548 [05:06:34] <awal1> just here i guess
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553 [05:12:24] <K_> So could anyone comment on that please?
554 [05:12:47] <K_> Did anything change since that discussion of a bug report ?
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556 [05:14:30] <deego> Where do I find a previous version of a package from jessie or stretch-backports?
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626 [06:15:14] <solrize> what is an NMU?
627 [06:15:30] <solrize> oh nonmaintainer upload
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818 [08:30:18] <dionysus69> ok I need support on accounting for ram
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824 [08:31:31] <dionysus69> I can only see 5 gb of ram occupied in the system monitor
825 [08:31:52] <dionysus69> but in reality I have 8.2 including swap occupied
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827 [08:32:05] <dionysus69> is there a tool that will account for Every piece of ram occupied?
828 [08:33:11] <tvm> dionysus69, free -m should give you enough information
829 [08:33:34] <dionysus69> that just gives me free and used space
830 [08:33:38] <dionysus69> I know that myself
831 [08:34:01] <dionysus69> what I meant was that 3.2 gb of ram is unaccounted for, I dont know which pieces of software use it
832 [08:34:52] <Haohmaru> could it be a videocard?
833 [08:34:56] <tvm> as in, you are "missing" the ram ?
834 [08:35:14] <tvm> 3.2GB is quite a lot for gfx
835 [08:35:26] <dionysus69> video memory is only 500mb that's max that could be allocated from uefi settings
836 [08:35:50] <dionysus69> maybe there are some services like postgresql and stuff but they wont be using much in total
837 [08:36:02] <FinalX> replaced-url
838 [08:36:10] <dionysus69> haha
839 [08:36:16] <dionysus69> :D
840 [08:36:33] <FinalX> it's an actual website, explaining caching by the OS :P
841 [08:36:36] <dionysus69> I know what the caching is about
842 [08:36:53] <dionysus69> I am not talking about cached memory but the actually used memory :)
843 [08:37:02] <FinalX> ok
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845 [08:37:13] <tvm> dionysus69, it's still not clear what is wrong
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847 [08:37:26] <tvm> is the ram missing from the "total" shown by free ?
848 [08:37:35] <FinalX> .. I was just about to ask that :p
849 [08:38:27] <babilen> Maybe some output/data on a pastebin might help?
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852 [08:41:31] <dionysus69> there is 8 gb of occupied ram in total
853 [08:41:47] <dionysus69> but I can only see 5gb of them are used by programs
854 [08:42:03] <babilen> By looking at the RAM chips?
855 [08:42:05] <dionysus69> ok fine, 500 for video, 500 for some linux services what about the rest 2?
856 [08:42:19] <dionysus69> no, by looking at the system monitor
857 [08:42:24] <babilen> Which system monitor?
858 [08:42:30] <dionysus69> gnome system monitor
859 [08:42:31] <dionysus69> or htop
860 [08:42:33] <dionysus69> doesn't matter
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862 [08:42:49] <babilen> And could you share some of that information? The aforementioned "free -m" output might come in handy
863 [08:42:50] <Azathoth> please paste the output of the command "free" (type it in your terminal) here
864 [08:43:14] <dionysus69> total used free shared buff/cache available
865 [08:43:14] <dionysus69> Mem: 7880 5949 309 753 1621 909
866 [08:43:14] <dionysus69> Swap: 4095 1532 2563
867 [08:43:48] <dionysus69> top row should be 1 column to the right
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871 [08:44:33] <babilen> replaced-url
872 [08:44:33] <Azathoth> nothing wrong that I can see here
873 [08:44:40] <dionysus69> xD
874 [08:45:00] <babilen> Also: Please explain in your own words what your (perceived) problem is
875 [08:45:06] <Azathoth> you've got 8G of RAM and 300G are still free, everything else is either used by processes or by disk caches
876 [08:45:06] <babilen> s/your/the ;)
877 [08:45:23] <tvm> looks just fine
878 [08:45:28] <dionysus69> as you can yourself see there's about 7.5 gb of ram used
879 [08:45:30] <FinalX> 1.5GB of swap used, ouch
880 [08:45:43] <dionysus69> but I can only see 5gb worth of programs
881 [08:45:50] <dionysus69> what's using the rest of 2.5gb?
882 [08:46:05] <FinalX> 2.5gb is what's left free in your swap.
883 [08:46:10] <jelly> value of swap used is not important (unless full); active use of swap is more important
884 [08:46:12] <dionysus69> linux services + video, should be ~1gb
885 [08:47:14] <FinalX> if I'm not mistaken, RAM assigned to video cards is usually taken out of the entire picture already and not showing up in 'free'
886 [08:47:31] <dionysus69> even worse
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890 [08:48:02] <jelly> debian kernel's default sysctl vm.swappiness of 60 is aggressive and leads to idle pages being put on swap at the expense of VFS (cache+buffers)
891 [08:48:06] <dionysus69> but gnome shows it's using about 200mb
892 [08:48:14] <dionysus69> something tells me it's much more than that
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894 [08:48:50] <FinalX> But it shows clearly that you're using 5.9 GB of your RAM and 1.5 GB of your swap even. You have 300 MB RAM free, 2.5 GB swap free, 750MB RAM used for shared memory, and 1.6 GB RAM used for caching. Of all that, your applications can use up to 900 MB more RAM before running out of it.
895 [08:49:02] <jelly> dionysus69, there's 6GB worth of programs, 1.6 cache and 300 free. Where do you see only 5GB?
896 [08:49:03] <FinalX> I always use "htop" to see what's eating my RAM/CPU.
897 [08:49:28] <dionysus69> there's a list of programs in system monitor right?
898 [08:49:31] <FinalX> (I'd be worried about the amount of swap used, actually)
899 [08:49:34] <dionysus69> and they show how much ram they use
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901 [08:49:40] <dionysus69> i just summed it up, that's 5gb
902 [08:49:58] <dionysus69> I usually turn off swap and turn it back on if I want to empty it
903 [08:49:59] <jelly> dionysus69, is that just RSS value or is SHR added to that?
904 [08:50:10] <dionysus69> dunno what those are xD
905 [08:50:17] <jelly> what this system monitor shows
906 [08:50:44] <dionysus69> dunno, it just shows memory
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908 [08:50:47] <dionysus69> no rss or shr
909 [08:50:49] <babilen> If you refer to data you draw conclusions from, you might want to share that data also
910 [08:51:02] <jelly> dionysus69, processes use part of memory for each own, and part of memory is used but shared among more than one process
911 [08:51:17] <dionysus69> hmm
912 [08:51:25] <jelly> dionysus69, if you do not know what your tool actually shows it's hard to draw any conclusion
913 [08:51:42] <jelly> you can use "top" as a starting point
914 [08:52:02] <FinalX> or htop, which is much clearer/easier to use imo
915 [08:52:08] <jelly> it shows RES and SHR columns by default
916 [08:52:28] <dionysus69> hmm ok let me look at htop
917 [08:52:41] <jelly> htop requires 2-3 keys to sort by RES, top just one
918 [08:52:59] <Azathoth> but that's a good point, I should lower swappiness on my newly installed laptop. it always has > 2G memory free, so there really shouldn't be anything in my swap (currently 928M)
919 [08:53:01] <jelly> but some people like colors
920 [08:53:16] <dionysus69> RES says 804 M for thunderbird for example
921 [08:53:20] <dionysus69> and 60340 for SHR
922 [08:53:22] <dionysus69> whats that?
923 [08:53:33] <jelly> Azathoth, it won't necessarily improve performance
924 [08:53:42] <Azathoth> I know
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926 [08:53:55] <Azathoth> it just makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside :)
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929 [08:54:15] <dionysus69> that's happening because ram got full, swap got used, and then part of ram got full, it doesn't automatically rewrite swap into ram
930 [08:54:56] <jelly> dionysus69, Debian Linux kernel writes pages out to swap _before_ it's anywhere close to full
931 [08:55:08] <jelly> !swappiness
932 [08:55:08] <dpkg> A number of Linux kernel developers debated "swappiness" - exploring when an application should or should not be swapped out, versus reclaiming memory from the cache. replaced-url
933 [08:55:33] <jelly> this can be tuned
934 [08:57:00] <dionysus69> i just need more memory I guess
935 [08:57:12] <dionysus69> how much would I save if I switched to let's say, xfce?
936 [08:57:22] <jelly> try it and see
937 [08:57:37] <dionysus69> if I try it I would have to spend days setting up similar env
938 [08:57:42] <jelly> yes
939 [08:57:53] <FinalX> I somehow doubt gnome is taking more than your thunderbird, tbh
940 [08:58:02] <jelly> because if you don't set up similar env you won't actually know how much it would use
941 [08:58:04] <dionysus69> and I dont want to replace gnome, I have it pretty customized so I will lose lots of work
942 [08:58:40] <Azathoth> is your system slow? do you actually have any negative impacts?
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944 [08:58:52] <dionysus69> ye it gets slow when ram gets full
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946 [08:59:02] <dionysus69> goes to swap I guess
947 [08:59:05] <FinalX> ...considering 1.5GB in swap, I'd say yes
948 [08:59:18] <jelly> and again, not necessarily
949 [08:59:19] <dionysus69> I am a web developer so I have lots of stuff running and 8gb just doesnt seem enough
950 [08:59:32] <babilen> Get more RAM then
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952 [08:59:44] <dionysus69> I switched back from atom to sublime, but that just gave me about half a gb of ram
953 [08:59:44] <jelly> web browsers with lots of tabs eat by far most RAM these days
954 [08:59:49] <FinalX> jelly: not necessarily, but 1.5GB is quite a lot, that's a lot of application data to begin with
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957 [09:00:17] <FinalX> points to a bigger problem imo
958 [09:00:30] <jelly> FinalX, the amount absolutely does not matter. We don't know how much it took to get to this point
959 [09:00:44] <jelly> how much time*
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961 [09:00:50] <FinalX> yeah, fair enough
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963 [09:00:55] <dionysus69> half a day aprox
964 [09:01:11] <dionysus69> if I work intensively it goes to this point in 1-2 hours
965 [09:01:46] <jelly> dionysus69, run something like "vmstat 1" in a terminal, and see if you have active (nonzero) so and si columns when the system starts to feel sluggish
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968 [09:02:21] <jelly> active swapping is a useful symptom, much more than just a single data point
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971 [09:03:01] <jelly> or set up resource monitoring and graphing over time, with something like monit
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976 [09:05:42] <jelly> dionysus69, you can also preemptively lower vm.swappiness to 10 or 1 and reboot to get a clean slate, if you still get similar swap usage in 1-2 hours, then yeah
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979 [09:06:56] <jelly> put sysctl tuning in eg. /etc/sysctl.d/local.conf instead of the global file to avoid questions on future release upgrades
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981 [09:07:41] <dionysus69> ok thanks :)
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997 [09:16:53] <ix__> hello, I'm having a problem with tethering from my smartphone, it used to work just fine, now it refuses to connect
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1005 [09:21:24] <jelly> ix__, what kind of tethering? Can your phone act as wifi hotspot?
1006 [09:22:18] <ix__> jelly usb tethering, it works fine on lubuntu, I have a live usb
1007 [09:22:38] <Azathoth> what kind of phone?
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1011 [09:23:55] <ix__> Azathoth, it does not matter, I've tried 2 smartphones, same problem, Debian is the problem, don't know why
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1013 [09:24:12] <Azathoth> ok, then at least tell us what kind of OS the phone is running
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1015 [09:24:24] <Azathoth> that_could_ be important
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1019 [09:25:12] <ix__> Azathoth, Lineageos and resurrection remix, they worked fine yesterday, they work fine with Lubuntu
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1021 [09:25:24] <jelly> so, android
1022 [09:25:31] <Azathoth> ok, both tell me nothing
1023 [09:25:33] <Azathoth> ah, android ok
1024 [09:25:58] <jelly> ix__, and you can't use wifi hotspot as a workaround?
1025 [09:26:39] <ix__> jelly, I imagine that I can, though I've blacklisted the wifi because I don't need it
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1027 [09:28:06] <jelly> ix__, so try that first. If you still want to investigate usb, look at the output of "ip l" or "ip link show" before and after plugging in a phone in usb tether mode.
1028 [09:28:37] <jelly> a new interface is supposed to appear
1029 [09:28:43] <ix__> it shows up in the interfaces
1030 [09:29:20] <jelly> ix__, good, is the link up? Can you run dhclient on it manually to get an IP?
1031 [09:29:49] <ix__> it does not give me an ip address
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1034 [09:30:19] <jelly> ix__, when you run "dhclient name-of-iface" as root manually?
1035 [09:30:35] <ix__> yeah, no ip address
1036 [09:30:41] <jelly> what's the output?
1037 [09:30:44] <jelly> !paste
1038 [09:30:44] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: replaced-url
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1042 [09:31:26] <ix__> it outputs nothing at all, wicd tells me no ip address
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1046 [09:31:54] <jelly> what's the exit status of dhclient
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1050 [09:32:25] <jelly> "echo $?" right after the dhclient command
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1054 [09:33:32] <ix__> it tells me nothing at all, even with echo $
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1057 [09:33:42] <jelly> "echo $?"
1058 [09:33:50] <jelly> not just $
1059 [09:33:55] <ix__> oh, sorry
1060 [09:34:18] <jelly> if you add -v it's supposed to log to syslog
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1062 [09:34:29] <jelly> (so /var/log/daemon.log probably)
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1068 [09:35:43] <ix__> ok, can't allocate interface enp0s29u1 lease
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1077 [09:39:01] <Azathoth> replaced-url
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1079 [09:39:35] <Azathoth> there may be a faulty lease file in /var/lib/dhcp/ somewhere
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1096 [09:46:09] <Azathoth> well there he goes
1097 [09:46:28] <ix__> Azathoth, it worked, yay :)
1098 [09:46:40] <Azathoth> nice!
1099 [09:46:54] <ix__> thank you
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1106 [09:49:28] <Azathoth> I just plugged your error message into the google search field ;)
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1108 [09:49:36] <Azathoth> so let that be a lesson for you, tech support 101
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1111 [09:50:37] <ix__> Azathoth, yeah, well, I didn't know the error message, because there was none
1112 [09:50:47] <ix__> none that I could see, anyway
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1165 [10:23:04] <anonymip> Where do you find information about the software notification on the lock screen? replaced-url
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1169 [10:24:01] <Azathoth> it's probably notification-daemon
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1173 [10:27:04] <anonymip> ok, the notification is there everytime I the computer locks, so it would be nice if there was a wayto acknowledge it to make it go away?
1174 [10:27:28] <Azathoth> maybe install the update?
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1176 [10:28:04] <anonymip> what update, where do I find what the notification is about?
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1183 [10:28:38] <anonymip> when I open Software I don't see anything needing update
1184 [10:29:00] <Azathoth> if you use gnome just open gnome-software and go to the update tab (the one on the right if I remember correctly)
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1187 [10:29:21] <Azathoth> or use "apt update && apt list --upgradeable" in a terminal (as root)
1188 [10:30:02] <ald3baran> hi all
1189 [10:30:54] <anonymip> Ok, but it says "Software new notification" Doens't that mean I should go to Softare to look for the notification?
1190 [10:31:47] <Azathoth> isn't that what I just told you to do?
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1192 [10:33:29] <anonymip> and when I go to Software and klick on the Updates tab it says "Software is up to date" replaced-url
1193 [10:34:14] <ald3baran> I'm trying to change the bit depth to 16 on Debian Stretch + Gnome. I ran ```X -configure``` and then moved the generated xorg.conf file to /etc/X11. I then added ```DefaultDepth 16``` to the Section "Screen" and I get a weird result (reduced screen with everything in purple). Anyone knows how I could proceed?
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1197 [10:41:59] <babilen> ald3baran: You really don't need a complete xorg.conf these days. It typically is a better idea to create minimal configuration files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
1198 [10:42:11] <babilen> dpkg: xorg.conf.d
1199 [10:42:11] <dpkg> xorg can use files ending in the suffix .conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d for additional configuration. It is preferred to use an <empty xorg.conf> and create files (e.g. 20-nvidia.conf, 20-radeon.conf, 20-wacom.conf) there in order to configure a single device. You might have to create the directory yourself (mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d). See also "man 5 xorg.conf".
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1203 [10:45:38] <ald3baran> thanks babilen for the help:) I created a 99screen.conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d (following this: replaced-url
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1205 [10:46:48] <babilen> Might want to look into the exact error
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1229 [11:06:27] <ald3baran> babilen: this? replaced-url
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1232 [11:07:08] <babilen> "(EE) qxl(0): Depth 16 is not supported" -- there you go
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1235 [11:09:16] <ald3baran> This is in a VM that runs over qemu-kvm with spice-vdagent installed. do you think uninstalling spice-vdagent might solve the problem?
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1237 [11:09:33] <babilen> No idea
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1242 [11:13:58] <ald3baran> do you have an explanation on why I get a different behavior with an xorg.conf in /etc/X11 ? (this one: replaced-url
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1252 [11:20:36] <hexhaxtron> How can I know who is using the GPU the most?
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1278 [11:38:38] <anonymip> is it possible to add screen resolutions, I don't have any 1920x1080 available
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1281 [11:39:28] <petn-randall> anonymip: If you graphics card or monitor doesn't support that, there wouldn't be much gain doing that.
1282 [11:39:39] <petn-randall> anonymip: What problem are you trying to solve?
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1284 [11:40:19] <anonymip> I run Debian under ESXi, and my monitor uses 1920x1080
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1288 [11:41:27] <anonymip> the closest I got is 1920x1200, but then the desktop is larger than the screen which is a bit annoying
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1290 [11:42:25] <tdn> What is an easy way to stream my music (MP3s) from my Linux server to my mobile phone (iPhone) via the internet? A WebDAV server or something else? Is anything in the Debian repos that will allow me to do this easily?
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1294 [11:42:58] <petn-randall> !mpd
1295 [11:42:58] <dpkg> Music Player Daemon (mpd) is a server allowing remote access for audio file/stream playback and playlist management. Prior to version 0.17-1, Debian's mpd package did not use <dmix> by default (Debian bug #568588). replaced-url
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1297 [11:43:23] <alkisg> anonymip: cvt 1920 1080 => gives you the mode, which you then use with xrandr --newmode, xrandr --addmode, xrandr --mode
1298 [11:43:24] <petn-randall> tdn: ^^^ You could try that, but your phone will probably be the limiting factor.
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1300 [11:44:04] <petn-randall> anonymip: I'd try fixing is in ESXi, it's passing the wrong monitor resolutions to the VM.
1301 [11:44:10] <petn-randall> s/is/it/
1302 [11:44:36] <tdn> petn-randall, I have used mpd in the past, but isnt this only for local network? And also, isnt this actually for playing the music ON the server and then controlling it from remote? I want to store the music on the linux server and PLAY the music on the mobile device. I figure this is something that should be possible to do fairly easy with an HTML5 page
1303 [11:45:22] <tdn> FYI: replaced-url
1304 [11:46:21] <anonymip> petn-randall, any ideas where to find screen resolution setting in ESXi, I use web client.
1305 [11:46:40] <alkisg> Try changing the virtual graphics card emulation
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1308 [11:48:05] <petn-randall> tdn: Oh right, I was thinking of the wrong tool. I'd find a app on your phone that can play music remotely, and try to find the daemon for it in Debian.
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1311 [11:48:29] <petn-randall> tdn: There are many daemons that can stream music, but probably only a few apps that support certain standards.
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1314 [11:49:31] <tdn> petn-randall, yeah, I figure if there isnt a set standard protocol for this, the apps will probably be limiting. But then again, an app should not be required as an HTML5 webpage should be able to play music just fine on a phone. This is done on stuff like soundcloud, youtube, etc. all the time.
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1316 [11:50:06] <tdn> Also, back in the WinAmp days, I think there was some kind of open web radio protocol for streaming. Shoutcast, maybe?
1317 [11:50:23] <tdn> Maybe it wasnt open...
1318 [11:50:43] <petn-randall> tdn: Yeah, but there you can't control the music, so I guess it depends on the details.
1319 [11:51:17] <tdn> petn-randall, oh, yeah, I see. Controlling what I hear would be nice ;)
1320 [11:51:20] <Ticho> I think I still have my MPD configuration for streaming music intact somewhere
1321 [11:51:37] <tdn> Ticho, I would be very interested in hearing how to did
1322 [11:51:39] <Ticho> but probably not the icecast part anymore
1323 [11:52:03] <tdn> Ticho, icecast! That was it.
1324 [11:52:11] <Ticho> you basically install MPD and Icecast, and configure MPD to forward the audio stream to Icecast, which in turn provides the actual http stream
1325 [11:52:17] <Ticho> plus some pretty web frontend
1326 [11:52:57] <tdn> Ticho, nice.
1327 [11:53:00] <Ticho> I used it years ago to listen to music streamed from home over a personal vpn
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1330 [11:53:53] <tdn> Is it safe to run icecast/mpd on the internet?
1331 [11:54:51] <Ticho> you should protect the MPD control port, ideally localhost-only, or even use a unix socket instead of tcp port
1332 [11:55:15] <tdn> Ticho, but icecast is secure?
1333 [11:55:19] <Ticho> and it is up to you how you expose the icecast stream - if you don't mind other people listening in (and using the bandwidth), it's harmless to have it exposed
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1336 [11:55:38] <tdn> Ticho, I dont mind that
1337 [11:55:40] <Ticho> it's just a one-way http stream, no GET/POST/whatever HTTP interface
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1339 [11:56:37] <tdn> Ticho, is iceast just apt-get install to set up? Or does it take time to configure?
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1342 [11:57:09] <Ticho> you have to configure icecast to accept the stream from mpd, I don't recall very well how it was done, and I no longer have the configuration
1343 [11:57:26] <Ticho> I vaguely remember it was in XML format, and not very complicated
1344 [11:57:33] <tdn> Ticho, ok
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1346 [11:59:59] <Ticho> this should help you for configuring the MPD side: replaced-url
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1349 [12:00:17] <Ticho> it's done via the "shout" output plugin
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1351 [12:00:37] <Ticho> I still use MPD to this day, but only for simple playback via ALSA
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1504 [13:22:26] <anonymip> if anyone else having similar issues with screesn resolution as I hav with the combination of ESXI and debian, this helped me: replaced-url
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1512 [13:24:33] <Kev-> I'm running debian 9.3, what's the best way to add an additional ip address to an interface?
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1514 [13:24:55] <SirLagz> Kev-: with the ip command?
1515 [13:25:29] <Kev-> I guess? I want it to be persistent
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1517 [13:25:41] <SirLagz> Kev-: why? What are you trying to do?
1518 [13:25:44] <JustASlacker> Kev-: replaced-url
1519 [13:26:09] <Kev-> I just want two ip addresses on my virtual machine, one assigned by dhcp and one permanent
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1521 [13:26:26] <Kev-> ifconfig is deprecated (or removed?) on 9.3 JustASlacker
1522 [13:26:41] <Kev-> These instructions are apparently not valid anymore
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1525 [13:26:54] <SirLagz> Kev-: yes...but why do you want 2 ip addresses?
1526 [13:26:58] <JustASlacker> well, use the ip section directly beneath
1527 [13:28:40] <Kev-> SirLagz: Because I'm fiddling with different subnets
1528 [13:28:53] <SirLagz> Kev-: I see.
1529 [13:29:48] <SirLagz> Kev-: well, the post that JustASlacker pasted seems to answer you question.
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1532 [13:30:50] <JustASlacker> and ifconfig has been deprecated for ages now
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1540 [13:34:34] <Azathoth> I'd use network manager if you want to persist it (nmcli or nmtui)
1541 [13:34:54] <Azathoth> on my system /etc/network/interfaces isn't really used anymore
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1543 [13:35:06] <JustASlacker> which system is that?
1544 [13:35:14] <JustASlacker> It sure is used on debian
1545 [13:35:37] <Azathoth> the system I am writing this on at the moment (Dell Laptop with Debian stable)
1546 [13:36:10] <Azathoth> the file only has auto definitions for loopback, but my system knows about wifi, mobile moden and lan connections
1547 [13:36:28] <Azathoth> modem*
1548 [13:36:38] <SirLagz> anyone played with kernel backports + nvidia driver backports? I tried to install kernel 4.13 and nvidia drivers but it didn't seem to build the module after I installed 4.13 and then installed the nvidia drivers package
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1551 [13:39:32] <SirLagz> Azathoth: doesn't mean /etc/network/interfaces isn't used
1552 [13:40:22] <Azathoth> it sure is still "read", but it is not "used" on this (desktop) system. on servers it certainly still is my goto way of configuring network settings.
1553 [13:40:56] <Azathoth> debian stable uses gnome as standard which (I presume) uses NetworkManager to do all network related things
1554 [13:41:24] <SirLagz> I wouldn't say Debian Stable has a 'standard' desktop. It asks you which to use at install time
1555 [13:41:38] <Azathoth> ok, that's true
1556 [13:42:09] <Azathoth> I don't use Gnome, that was just an assumption, but of course you're free to use from a range of options at install time
1557 [13:42:30] <Azathoth> *choose
1558 [13:42:38] <Azathoth> man, I can't write anymore today
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1561 [13:43:55] <SirLagz> I don't use Gnome either. I'm an XFCE guy, but normally I don't choose to install a desktop environment at all
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1563 [13:44:27] <SirLagz> installing a DE during install ends up wtih a whole bunch of other crap on there too
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1567 [13:45:56] <anonnumberanon> Right now it's my only option to use Xubuntu to make my laptop vga port output to an external screen. I'd rather keep doing Debian and Xfce but it sucks.
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1575 [13:52:00] <tobiasBora> Hello,
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1577 [13:53:08] <tobiasBora> I don't know why, but I can't have access to the login web page of a wifi hotspot
1578 [13:53:25] <tobiasBora> while I'm connected on the wifi hotspot
1579 [13:53:51] <rant> tobiasBora: are you able to browse the web?
1580 [13:53:52] <tobiasBora> I tried to connect to some http website, without any succets
1581 [13:54:00] <tobiasBora> rant: no
1582 [13:54:13] <SirLagz> tobiasBora: does it work on a windows machine?
1583 [13:54:48] <tobiasBora> rant: on my mobile phone before browsing the web I need to click on the top notification "login in the hotspot"
1584 [13:55:13] <tobiasBora> SirLagz: it works on my android phone, and on my friend's windows machine
1585 [13:55:49] <SirLagz> tobiasBora: when you go to the 'login on the hotspot' page, have you tried navigating to that address on your computer?
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1590 [13:56:53] <rant> on mine once you're logged in, it goes by MAC ID and no longer asks you to login once you're registered.. I've just done the register on another machine and cloned the mac ID of that machine when i had issues before
1591 [13:57:09] <tobiasBora> SirLagz: yes, but without success
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1594 [13:57:37] <rant> if you are unable to get to ANYTHING even manually you probably have dhcp/dns issues
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1596 [13:57:47] <tobiasBora> rant: I tried it, but no idea why eeven with faking my mobile MAC it's still not working
1597 [13:58:26] <tobiasBora> rant: the dns are not supposed to be configured during the dhcp request?
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1599 [13:58:54] <tobiasBora> rant: and I can't ping 8.8.8.8 when I fake the mobile mac
1600 [13:59:02] <rant> yes which is why I said dhcp/dns because you may not have gotten the right dns from the dhcp
1601 [13:59:18] <rant> the dns on such a system should redirect you to a login until your authenticated
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1603 [13:59:47] <rant> I'd check the lease/route info and try basic network diagnostic, pinging the gateway, etc
1604 [13:59:49] <tobiasBora> rant: hum maybe… How can I try to set up this manually?
1605 [14:00:02] <tobiasBora> rant: I can ping the gatewax
1606 [14:00:20] <rant> setting things like this up manually can be real problematic as these hotspots often have very odd and rather dynamic configuration
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1612 [14:02:44] <rant> i.e. I'm currently on 10.226.250.x block with a netmask of 255.224.0.0 and the gateway is 10.224.0.1.. and it also uses AP isolation
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1620 [14:05:00] <b-04> hi friends, can someone answer a question about wpad?
1621 [14:05:08] <rant> tobiasBora: note when cloning a MAC you have to take the other device off the network or it'd cause a MAC collision and that usually results in the gateway talking to neither of them
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1624 [14:06:22] <rant> b-04: maybe if you ask the question, otherwise, probably not. I for one dont know what you mean by wpad
1625 [14:06:34] <b-04> I need to exclude the 192.168.40.0/24 proxy network, so if someone connects from that network with "proxy autodetection" the wpad does not send the proxy.
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1637 [14:12:44] <rant> b-04: replaced-url
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1648 [14:18:20] <rant> if not, you probably need to be more specific because it seems to me you may be trying to do something with the wrong tool... wpad seems to just be a proxy that assigns proxy info based on the URL requested.. if you wanna do something based on the requester's IP then you probably want to use iptables/netfilter type solution to just block access to wpad or something like that *shrug*
1649 [14:18:22] <notsafe> hi how do i setup a loopback audio
1650 [14:18:52] <rant> a loopback audio? you probably want jack
1651 [14:19:18] <rant> !jack
1652 [14:19:19] <dpkg> [jack] a colloquialism for a person who doesn't care about anything, or a CD ripping front-end (packaged as jack, replaced-url
1653 [14:19:47] <notsafe> hmm
1654 [14:20:00] <notsafe> i want something virtual i dont wanna mess with input devices
1655 [14:20:16] <notsafe> like loopback sound out and sink it to input
1656 [14:21:05] <rant> ah.. pulseaudio can handle that
1657 [14:21:41] <rant> replaced-url
1658 [14:22:06] <rant> basically you're just selecting your output/monitor/pcm as your recording device
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1660 [14:22:47] <rant> jack is a bit overkill unless you really wanna be able to dynamically route audio through more complex layers
1661 [14:22:56] <notsafe> rant
1662 [14:23:07] <notsafe> hmm lemme see i did that already
1663 [14:23:09] <notsafe> now
1664 [14:23:47] <notsafe> when i run my app which uses both in and out
1665 [14:23:55] <notsafe> it
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1667 [14:24:06] <notsafe> wont register as a recording app
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1670 [14:25:44] <wrksx_> Is rsync always using ssh ?
1671 [14:25:57] <rant> it may be that it is specifically using an output plugin like alsa that is getting around pulse.. if an app doesnt support pulseaudio the typical and usually I'd think default setup is for alsa to point to pulse as its default
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1677 [14:27:50] <dbf> wrksx_ : not really
1678 [14:28:03] <rant> wrksx_: no.. it uses rsh/rsyncd but typically this is not setup and ssh is what most pepole use as a transport
1679 [14:28:07] <b-04> rant: is a good idea
1680 [14:28:22] <b-04> block the access from 192.168.40.0/24 to proxy file
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1682 [14:28:37] <wrksx_> is there anyway to make sure it'll use ssh ?
1683 [14:28:44] <dbf> for local intranet backups i use it without ssh
1684 [14:28:46] <alkisg> wrksx_: man rsync ==> --daemon option
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1688 [14:29:35] <wrksx_> Actually if the server is only accessible using ssh I suppose there's no other choice as you said rant
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1692 [14:31:52] <rant> wrksx_: "You can also specify any remote shell you like, either by using the -e command line option, or by setting the RSYNC_RSH environment variable."
1693 [14:32:06] <notsafe> rant can you help
1694 [14:32:23] <rant> wrksx_: if you look carefully "which rsh" /usr/bin/rsh points to /etc/alternatives/rsh which points to ssh
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1696 [14:32:46] <rant> and rsh is the default it uses, which in most systems is not actually available but points to ssh
1697 [14:32:52] <wrksx_> which: no rsh
1698 [14:33:00] <wrksx_> I'm on cygwin right now =)
1699 [14:33:08] <wrksx_> but connecting to debian server
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1704 [14:33:53] <wrksx_> thanks for the explanation rant
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1708 [14:34:45] <notsafe> wame?
1709 [14:36:01] <rant> notsafe: on my machine Stretch w/ MATE I see the speaker icon in my notification area, I right click, goto Sound Preferences > [Input] tab there is a box at the bottom says Choose device for sound input: and "Monitor of Built-in analog stereo" is available
1710 [14:36:14] <jelly> wrksx_: rsync uses ssh if available.
1711 [14:36:19] <rant> this is all using pulseaudio and not on a per-app basis
1712 [14:36:24] <jelly> no need for -e
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1716 [14:38:28] <rant> most all sound hardware has this "monitor" interface either in HW or their driver to allow for recording directly from the standard PCM output
1717 [14:38:33] <wrksx_> jelly, alright, from my understanding -e would be used to force ssh if rsh is available or some like that ?
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1726 [14:39:46] <rant> more like you'd have to specifically tell it not to, like if you wanted to use mosh or something
1727 [14:41:52] <rant> but as I said, this convention is controlled by "rsh" and the fact that on debian anyhow, rsh is non-existant and points via alternatives to ssh by default
1728 [14:42:12] <rant> if there were some alternative on another system, it would use that by default instead
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1731 [14:43:26] <rant> man rsh actually shows you the ssh manpage
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1733 [14:44:45] <rant> unless -e is specified on the rsync command line, env var RSYNC_RSH is set, or a binary/link-to-binary called rsh is in the PATH var, then it'd use ssh
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1735 [14:45:14] <rant> or of course if src/dest is both local
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1737 [14:45:57] <jelly> wrksx_: yes
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1741 [14:47:02] <wrksx_> Ty guys
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1745 [14:48:25] <bolt> is there a way to restrict the ports a user is allowed to listen to with ssh remote port forwarding? I.e. can I put something in sshd_config user a "Match User foo" directive to allow foo to use "ssh myserver -R 5000:localhost:22" but not "ssh myserver -R 5001:localhost:22" ?
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1747 [14:50:20] <rant> it wouldnt matter.. if the user could ssh in they could do anything that user could locally regardless of what ssh could restrict.. what you're looking for is more how to secure access to ports by user, the ssh part is rather irrelevant
1748 [14:50:44] <bolt> rant: you're assuming the user can run any commands at all
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1753 [14:52:17] <rant> right.. well if you do ALL of this replaced-url
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1756 [14:53:20] <rant> then sure you could probably manage with SSH alone, but idk that I'd really wanna trust anyone in that way anyhow.. if I couldnt trust em, I wouldnt be lettin em access my network
1757 [14:53:58] <bolt> rant: i saw that port previously, but i don't believe it allows restricting which remote listen ports a user is allowed
1758 [14:54:05] <bolt> s/port/post/
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1761 [14:54:47] <rant> from my (speed) read of it, it not only does that, it has proofs and demonstrations
1762 [14:54:53] <bolt> rant: the point is not letting the user access the network at all. it should be allowed to listen to a single port, and that port only, so one can connect back to it.
1763 [14:55:16] <rant> that's usually handled by a firewall :P
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1765 [14:55:30] <notsafe> rant
1766 [14:55:35] <notsafe> so you cant help me
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1768 [14:57:15] <bolt> rant: from the manual, PermitOpen restricts the destination for port forwarding, not the source
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1772 [15:00:04] <abrotman> bolt: iptables ?
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1774 [15:01:18] <bolt> abrotman: can iptables prevent the binding? if i only limit incoming connections to the forwarded port, the user with access to port 5000 could still bind to port 5001, thus blocking another user from binding to that port
1775 [15:01:35] <abrotman> wouldn't htat be sufficient to keep them from using ports you don't want them using?
1776 [15:02:01] <wrksx_> is there a better way than rsync -avxP user@host:/source1 user@host:/source2 /var/backup
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1778 [15:02:24] <wrksx_> my concern is two sources on the same host
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1780 [15:02:55] <bolt> abrotman: it might be. i just feel like locking it down properly while i'm at it. i'm annoyed by the idea that a user could bind to port 8080, preventing a service from starting, for instance
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1783 [15:03:44] <wrksx_> For backups, would you pull from the backup host, or push from the backuped host ? I mean is there any differences ?
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1788 [15:04:26] <SevenWen> !payday
1789 [15:04:59] <r3> I think convention, wrksx_, is to push from the system being backed up onto the backup server/medium
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1793 [15:05:46] <r3> but, that being said, I've also seen background backups that pull from the host onto a backup server.
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1801 [15:08:32] <wrksx_> Let's follow convention
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1825 [15:14:31] <HKitain> does the rootfs device in /etc/fstab actually matter? If it differs from whatever is specified in the bootloader, does it run init (systemd), and then remount to what fstab says?
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1833 [15:19:20] <frostschutz> HKitain, well, you can try... but usually it's just a remount with different mount options. traditionally the / would start out as mounted read-only and attempt to fsck if there are minor problems. with initramfs that is no longer necessary
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1835 [15:21:03] <HKitain> gotcah
1836 [15:21:05] <HKitain> *gotcha
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1850 [15:25:43] <nazarewk> how do i enable --log-level 5 logs in iptables on debian?
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1852 [15:26:37] <nazarewk> from what i understand they should appear in journalctl -k
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1870 [15:35:36] <annadane> are there any good wine equivalents? like, some kind of windows container without having to set up an entire virtual machine
1871 [15:36:28] <JustASlacker> doxbox
1872 [15:36:32] * JustASlacker hides
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1876 [15:38:26] <gnoynat> annadane: do you mean paravirtualization?
1877 [15:39:15] <annadane> actually i guess i never investigated as to whether QEMU/KVM can do it
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1879 [15:39:31] <JustASlacker> there are some windows vagrant boxes public available
1880 [15:39:38] <gnoynat> annadane: something like xp mode?
1881 [15:40:09] <JustASlacker> like here replaced-url
1882 [15:40:31] <JustASlacker> if you google for vagrant and windows you should find some tutorials or already build boxes
1883 [15:40:45] <Azathoth> I tried Windows 10 in gnome-boxes, it was painfully slow
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1885 [15:41:00] <Azathoth> so yes, qemu/kvm can do it
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1887 [15:41:13] <JustASlacker> sure kvm can do it
1888 [15:41:25] <JustASlacker> as can virtuabox
1889 [15:41:39] <JustASlacker> or xen :D
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1891 [15:43:15] <JustASlacker> replaced-url
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1893 [15:45:17] <annadane> i just wanted to run individual applications in a "windows environment" without the need to have the entire bloat of windows
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1895 [15:45:41] <annadane> and without going through the entire windows install process though yeah i guess there's pre made images
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1897 [15:46:26] * JustASlacker shrugs
1898 [15:46:34] <JustASlacker> its wine or nothing then
1899 [15:46:41] <annadane> sigh. oh well, thanks
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1901 [15:46:50] <tockitj> which package enables `free` command to work?
1902 [15:47:04] <annadane> wine is ok, it's just a lot of packages
1903 [15:47:08] <JustASlacker> or maybe "it wine or whine" :D
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1907 [15:48:11] <JustASlacker> tockitj: procps ?
1908 [15:48:17] <nix64bit> why is dmesg messed up for non root users?
1909 [15:48:59] <jhutchins> nix64bit: It's not.
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1911 [15:49:29] <jhutchins> nix64bit: non-privileged users should not be allowed operations that can change the state of the system.
1912 [15:49:50] <nix64bit> dmesg can do that?
1913 [15:49:55] <nix64bit> just info
1914 [15:50:29] <jhutchins> tockitj: procpcs
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1920 [15:52:47] <jhutchins> nix64bit: dmesg can install and remove packages, but non-privileged users can query it. I just pulled the source package for free from it as a regular user.
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1922 [15:53:00] <jhutchins> er, dpkg.
1923 [15:53:25] <jhutchins> nix64bit: Sorry, brainfart.
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1925 [15:53:37] <tockitj> That is the one. Thank you
1926 [15:53:54] <jhutchins> nix64bit: The kernel ring buffer is only accessible by root, so dmesg can't read it when run as a regular user.
1927 [15:55:21] <RoyK> jhutchins: when did that change, really? iirc it was user-accessible some time back
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1939 [16:03:26] <nix64bit> dmesg: read kernel buffer failed: Operation not permitted
1940 [16:03:39] <nix64bit> thats not a useful message
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1943 [16:04:18] <tw> it says you're not root.
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1945 [16:04:42] <tw> I dunno what you are looking for in the error message.
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1947 [16:05:24] <Azathoth> according to replaced-url
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1955 [16:07:54] <converge> Im trying to upgrade from Firefox 57 to Firefox 59, I placed the new Firefox at /opt/firefox , but when I try to run the firefox (executable) file, it says: -bash: ./firefox: No such file or directory , some ideia how to fix it ?
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1958 [16:09:46] <bolt> converge: wrong architecture?
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1964 [16:12:55] <jelly> converge: what does "file ./firefox" say
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1967 [16:13:58] <converge> bolt, Im using a KVM guest, maybe it's 32bits and Im trying 64
1968 [16:14:06] <converge> jelly, the output is: -bash: ./firefox: No such file or directory
1969 [16:14:16] <tockitj> converge, note that vimperator will no longer work one you upgrade to quantum
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1971 [16:14:59] <converge> tockitj, what's imperator..?
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1975 [16:16:11] <nazarewk> how do i change kernel log level on the running system?
1976 [16:16:14] <anonnumberanon> why is e2fsck such a troll package?
1977 [16:16:18] <anonnumberanon> it makes me rage
1978 [16:16:32] <nazarewk> (i'm trying to use iptable logs with --log-level 5
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1980 [16:16:58] <kill0rmachine_> you can determine architecture of current running kernel with "uname -m"
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2002 [16:22:53] <n4dir> converge: i would check if /opt/bin is in the users path, and i don't think it is per default. I would also try the full path to the command.
2003 [16:22:57] <jelly> converge: okay. What does "ls -ld ./firefox" say, then?
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2007 [16:24:43] <converge> jelly, -rwxr-xr-x 1 converge converge 198572 Mar 15 21:39 ./firefox
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2013 [16:26:39] <kill0rmachine_> and "ldd ./firefox" ?
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2017 [16:27:17] <jelly> converge: and "file ./firefox" command fails with a bash error? Which debian release is this?
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2022 [16:28:10] <converge> jelly, yes.. very weird, it's stretch
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2026 [16:28:28] <jelly> converge: what does "type file" say
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2029 [16:29:04] <converge> jelly, I downloaded FF 57, and it runs..
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2032 [16:29:46] <anonnumberanon> when I fsck my partition it returns that it's clean, then when I try to resize it with Gparted the checking tool e2fsck says that it's out of date
2033 [16:29:47] <RoyK> mh... I have a bad drive in this machine, and I'm not onsite. The drive doesn't have much work anymore, replaced by another, but it's still there flooding my logs. Is there a way I can disable this in /sys somehow without physically unplugging it? Here's from dmesg replaced-url
2034 [16:29:52] <jelly> converge: okay, but that doesn't answer the question
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2043 [16:31:57] <jelly> if it solvers your problem, then good
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2045 [16:33:33] <tw> RoyK: echo 1 > /sys/class/block/sdX/device/delete
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2049 [16:34:17] <tw> I've never been able to get it *back* from that op without hotplugging though.
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2060 [16:38:13] <RoyK> tw: it used to be sdd, but that's gone now, and still it keeps flooding
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2064 [16:40:36] <jelly> RoyK: what keeps flooding?
2065 [16:41:05] <jelly> ahci driver?
2066 [16:41:13] <RoyK> jelly: replaced-url
2067 [16:41:40] <RoyK> every 2 seconds or so
2068 [16:41:48] <RoyK> so it probably won't fill up my disk, but still
2069 [16:42:05] <jelly> it keeps happening, after echo 1 into /sys/block/whatever/device/delete ?
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2072 [16:42:28] <RoyK> jelly: as mentioned above, it was sdd, but that device is gone now
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2074 [16:42:51] <jelly> so the action did not go thru to the device
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2077 [16:43:09] <RoyK> well, there's no device there to send the action to
2078 [16:43:13] <jelly> I have no idea how to shut down one sata channel but presumably it should be possible
2079 [16:43:46] <tw> It looks like the ahci controller is sending a device plug event that either isn't answered or is being ignored because the kernel has shut down that device.
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2081 [16:43:53] <tw> I don't know how to fix that, sorry =/
2082 [16:44:01] <RoyK> I guess I'll have to wait until I or someone gets onsite
2083 [16:44:07] <RoyK> it's just a dead drive
2084 [16:44:11] <jelly> something in /sys/class/ata_{link,port} maybe
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2087 [16:44:41] <tw> he won't be able to hotplug back into that port, after shutting it down, I think.
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2089 [16:45:17] <RoyK> tw: doesn't matter
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2095 [16:46:53] <dimde> I installed a Debian alongside Windows which doesn't boot (I currently boot into Windows). Now I did the things that !chroot suggested. Q1: Is there any way I can check if that succeeded other than not receiving an error? Q2: And how do I update my grub from there, so I can boot into grub and from there into Debian or Windows by default?
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2100 [16:47:52] <greycat> update-grub
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2102 [16:48:22] <dimde> and then `reboot`?
2103 [16:48:46] <greycat> yes, once you've made all the changes you want to make
2104 [16:49:06] <dimde> would I want to make any more changes to boot into grub?
2105 [16:49:22] <dimde> `update-grub` seemed to run through without complaints.
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2107 [16:49:43] <greycat> you made sure os-prober is installed? you might also want to read through the grub config file that it generates, to make sure all OSes are found
2108 [16:49:48] <dimde> oh no… on reading closely, it did complain…
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2111 [16:50:23] <aoluser> My server doesnt auto-reconnect to the ethernet connection after my router/modem reboots. How do I enable it to reconnect? Here are the settings for Wicd: replaced-url
2112 [16:50:25] <dimde> "grub-probe: error: cannot find GRUB drive for /dev/sdb1. check your device map."
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2114 [16:50:46] <dimde> sdb1 should be the stick with the live system.
2115 [16:50:57] <greycat> oh, then you probably don't need to worry about that
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2118 [16:51:37] <dimde> it said "found linux image" and "initrd image".
2119 [16:52:17] <aoluser> I;ve tried adding "auto enp0s25" to the interface file, but that doesnt work.
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2122 [16:53:29] <dimde> so it should at least have found the debian and written that, so now I should boot into debian (even if there may not be an option for windows). from there I think I can fiddle with grub a little further to also make it boot into windows, right?
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2125 [16:54:19] <greycat> if os-prober was installed when you ran update-grub then it should have found windows and you can verify it all by reading /boot/grub/grub.cfg
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2128 [16:55:01] <greycat> Windows boot entries should be right after "# BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober # "
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2130 [16:55:18] <dimde> `# os-prober` said "grub-probe: error: cannot find GRUB drive for /dev/sdb1. check your device map." -- so I guess, it was installed.
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2132 [16:55:36] <greycat> but you said that's the live system, which is not what you want it to find anyway
2133 [16:55:42] <dimde> yes.
2134 [16:56:03] <dimde> so I guess it was installed and called, when I ran `update-grub`
2135 [16:57:08] <dimde> 'Windows boot entries should be right after "# BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober # "' << of what? theoutput from `update-grub`, or of some file?
2136 [16:57:24] <greycat> 11:54 greycat> [...] and you can verify it all by reading /boot/grub/grub.cfg
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2145 [16:59:46] <dimde> "# BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###" is followed by an empty line and then "## BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_uefi-firmware # "
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2147 [17:00:01] <greycat> then it didn't find your Windows
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2149 [17:00:06] <dimde> yes.
2150 [17:00:45] <dimde> should I boot into debian for starters and fix my grub from there?
2151 [17:00:59] <mahafyi> greycat : thanks for advice yesterday, I was able to install salt-minion on Debian testing with equivs, by manually installing python-tornado.
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2154 [17:01:27] <greycat> dimde: I guess it's worth a try at this point.
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2160 [17:02:25] <dimde> I just kill the power to reboot, right? because `reboot` isn't accepted from within chroot ;-)
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2162 [17:02:53] <greycat> cd / and then unmount everything and then try shutdown -r now
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2164 [17:04:24] <sine0> guys, I have been using debian net install in a vm for a while now. I have it on vm etc. when I add a second adapter in vbox, it does not seem to obtain an ip address in debian, and then i thought, how would it have 2 ip addresses anyway.... do I have to configure it in debian
2165 [17:04:38] <friend_to_pandas> my HDMI monitor port isn't working in Stretch. doesn't show up in xrandr. it works in Win10. what should I do?
2166 [17:04:49] <dimde> 'cd /' doesn't lead me outside of the chroot-environment… so I don’t think, I can unmount anything from there.
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2169 [17:05:08] <tobiasBora> rant: any idea how I could debug it? for example it looks like that I can query dns even behind the hotspot. but how is the hotspot supposed to send the login url?
2170 [17:05:28] <greycat> ah right, "exit" first to get out of the chroot, THEN reboot (or shutdown -r now, or whatever)
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2172 [17:06:19] <dimde> ok… that boots me into grub (not debian)
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2175 [17:07:08] <greycat> Should be a grub menu with Debian as the default choice, and hitting Enter or waiting 5 seconds should boot into Debian.
2176 [17:07:18] <dimde> no… it's grub console.
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2179 [17:08:31] <dimde> strange… after rebooting again, I boot into windows.
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2181 [17:09:05] <dimde> the grub console looked sth like this: replaced-url
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2184 [17:10:45] <dimde> hm… what now?
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2199 [17:17:16] <dimde> I redid the steps up to and including `update-grub` from the chroot I obtained from the live-system for starters… not looking at '/boot/grub/grub.cfg' to see, if I can find the bootsequence for Debian in there.
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2201 [17:18:35] <dimde> s/not looking/now looking/
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2203 [17:19:18] <frikinz> Hi. Does "apt remove pkg" also removes dependencies marked as auto ?
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2209 [17:20:17] <somiaj> frikinz: you will have to run apt autoremove afterwards to do that.
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2211 [17:21:04] <dimde> Sais things like "menuentry 'Debian GNU/Linux' --class debian …". So that looks like it’s describing a grub menu as I would have expected to see (that can boot me into Debian). Now I guess my bios/uefi doesn't find/execute this grub that I just created, right?
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2214 [17:22:10] <frikinz> somiaj: thanks. never thought it works like this. Or is it aptitude that does remove depencies automatically.
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2237 [17:31:22] <dimde> some forums suggest something related to registering boot partitions as "trusted UEFI-File" in the bios… could that be related?
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2256 [17:37:10] <anonnumberanon> finally got external monitors running on my laptop
2257 [17:37:11] <capin> hello, when I run `locale -a` I'm getting the following output, replaced-url
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2270 [17:44:49] <friend_to_pandas> my HDMI monitor port isn't working in Stretch. doesn't show up in xrandr. it works in Win10. I have no /etc/X11/xorg.conf. what should I do?
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2280 [17:49:19] <dimde> hm… strange. if I repeat the steps, I can't seem to be able to boot into even the grub-console anymore.
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2292 [17:54:10] <jhutchins> !locale
2293 [17:54:11] <dpkg> A locale is a set of rules for presenting information to humans according to local conventions (date format, thousands separators, language, etc.). Ask me about <locales> to establish on a Debian system. replaced-url
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2297 [17:55:02] <jhutchins> friend_to_pandas: What graphics hardware? What driver is it using? What have you done so far to try to fix it? What's in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
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2299 [17:55:20] <nkuttler> eeereplaced-url
2300 [17:55:23] <jhutchins> eeereplaced-url
2301 [17:55:51] <jhutchins> For a single command I'd probably use an alias.
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2311 [17:58:17] <jhutchins> eeereplaced-url
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2315 [17:59:01] <jhutchins> !rc.local
2316 [17:59:01] <dpkg> /etc/rc.local is a script called by /etc/init.d/rc.local which is typically one of the last things to be run during the boot sequence. If you have commands you want run at boot, edit /etc/rc.local (don't touch /etc/init.d/rc.local). rc.local is regarded as a hack, consider writing a real init script instead, ask me about <init.d>.
2317 [17:59:56] <dimde> I think I solved my issue with this: replaced-url
2318 [18:00:11] <jhutchins> EWDurbin: You can (probably should) also search for rc.local+systemd for how to use it on newer releases.
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2322 [18:00:56] <EWDurbin> jhutchins: wrong handle :)
2323 [18:01:05] <greycat> rc.local works just fine on systemd
2324 [18:01:19] <greycat> or at least as fine as it does under sysvinit
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2328 [18:02:04] <greycat> ... that's a trick question, right?
2329 [18:02:12] <dimde> eeereplaced-url
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2338 [18:04:08] <greycat> "I'm trying to modify my boot sequence to bring up a special device that I won't name that uses special drivers I won't describe and also needs me to run 2 scripts, one of them python, the other I won't identify, as prereqs, and by the way, I am a mouse user and don't know what a command is"
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2343 [18:05:16] <greycat> Is your question "How do I execute a python script?" Make sure it has a valid shebang line and +x permissions.
2344 [18:06:00] <eeereplaced-url
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2346 [18:06:15] <jhutchins> EWDurbin: Sorry.
2347 [18:06:18] <greycat> then make sure the shebang line is python3 and not just python
2348 [18:06:47] <eeereplaced-url
2349 [18:06:53] <greycat> !shebang
2350 [18:06:54] <dpkg> it has been said that shebang is the "hash-bang" (#!) line at the start of a script that instructs the kernel which interpreter to use. Examples: "#!/bin/sh", "#!/usr/bin/perl -w". replaced-url
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2357 [18:09:00] <friend_to_pandas> jhutchins: graphics hardware: Intel HD 4000 integrated and NVIDIA NVS 5200M. driver: "lspci -nnk" producing "kernel driver in use: i915" and "nouveau".
2358 [18:09:19] <friend_to_pandas> jhutchins: HDMI is mentioned twice in .local/share/Xorg.0.log: "[ 16.981] (II) NOUVEAU(G0): Output HDMI-1-1 has no monitor section" "17.129] (II) NOUVEAU(G0): EDID for output HDMI-1-1"
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2360 [18:10:26] <friend_to_pandas> jhutchins: "to fix it" nothing yet. I'm told maybe I should uninstall xserver-xorg-video-intel and try modesetting? Does that kick in immediately?
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2362 [18:11:02] <greycat> you mean "type python3", since it's python3 and not python
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2365 [18:12:09] <sh0kx> greycat: if it is python3 yes. You have to launch 'which' on the command name you normally use to launch your script.
2366 [18:12:29] <greycat> 13:06 eeereplaced-url
2367 [18:12:30] <greycat> 13:06 greycat> then make sure the shebang line is python3 and not just python
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2375 [18:16:51] <alkisg> friend_to_pandas: a pastebin of your Xorg.log would help...
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2404 [18:25:53] <friend_to_pandas> alkisg: my bad
2405 [18:25:58] <friend_to_pandas> alkisg: jhutchins: replaced-url
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2416 [18:31:30] <capin> still messing around with locales, and this is what I'm getting now replaced-url
2417 [18:31:37] <hark> hee
2418 [18:31:47] <hark> someone knows where to find a signature of: replaced-url
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2421 [18:32:26] <hark> or more specifically of: replaced-url
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2533 [19:05:58] <Guest16681> hihi
2534 [19:06:00] <Guest16681> o/
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2568 [19:21:48] <Pegasus_RPG> Hello. Since I upgraded to Debian 9, Fabric isn't working, with a problem in paramiko it seems: replaced-url
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2570 [19:22:39] <Pegasus_RPG> I tried reinstalling the fabric and pyhton-paramiko packages but still get the same error. Any idea what package(s) I may be missing?
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2573 [19:24:02] <Pegasus_RPG> I have python-cryptography
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2577 [19:25:51] <Pegasus_RPG> Installing python3-paramiko makes no difference either (probably because fabric is using python2.)
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2579 [19:25:58] <jelly> what is Fabric?
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2581 [19:26:36] <Pegasus_RPG> jelly: python-based automation tool
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2583 [19:27:05] <jelly> ,v fabric
2584 [19:27:06] <judd> Package: fabric on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 1.8.2-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.10.0-1; stretch: 1.13.1-2; buster: 1.14.0-1; sid: 1.14.0-1
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2588 [19:27:22] <jelly> you using the packaged version or something else?
2589 [19:27:36] <Pegasus_RPG> jelly: replaced-url
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2594 [19:31:20] <Pegasus_RPG> There's a quick test example at that site if you want to test
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2596 [19:31:47] <Pegasus_RPG> But even without a script, just running "fab" at the command line results in that error
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2601 [19:33:03] <jelly> Pegasus_RPG, best file a bug report with Severity: serious, that sounds like the software is completely unusable
2602 [19:33:06] <greycat> Pegasus_RPG: did you file a bug ...
2603 [19:33:12] <greycat> damned ninjas
2604 [19:33:21] <jelly> that is, if there isn't one already
2605 [19:33:22] <Pegasus_RPG> not yet, I was just trying to make sure I didn't miss something first
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2607 [19:33:43] <greycat> I don't think anyone here knows what "fabric" is except you.
2608 [19:33:59] <jelly> merely running the program shouldn't just break with an import error
2609 [19:34:12] <Pegasus_RPG> The question is, is the bug in the fabric package or paramiko?
2610 [19:34:26] <jelly> it's at least in the fabric package
2611 [19:34:27] <greycat> ,info paramiko
2612 [19:34:28] <judd> No package named 'paramiko' was found in stretch/amd64.
2613 [19:34:35] <Pegasus_RPG> ,info python-paramiko
2614 [19:34:36] <judd> Package python-paramiko (python, optional) in stretch/amd64: Make ssh v2 connections (Python 2). Version: 2.0.0-1; Size: 108.3k; Installed: 627k; Homepage: replaced-url
2615 [19:34:53] <greycat> sounds rather specialized
2616 [19:35:08] <jelly> and if it's not the maintainer will reassign
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2618 [19:35:30] <Pegasus_RPG> yep, it's in paramiko. doing "import paramiko" at a python prompt gives the same error
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2621 [19:35:51] <jelly> ouch
2622 [19:35:52] <Pegasus_RPG> thanks for the help
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2624 [19:36:09] * Pegasus_RPG loves reportbug
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2626 [19:37:11] <jelly> Pegasus_RPG, maybe something else in your environment is causing it? import paramiko works here.
2627 [19:37:23] <jelly> (in python2)
2628 [19:37:38] <Pegasus_RPG> It's certainly possible. What can I check? I'm not very experienced with python.
2629 [19:38:22] <Pegasus_RPG> jelly: What version of python-paramiko do you have installed?
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2631 [19:39:06] <jelly> whatever is in stretch
2632 [19:39:19] <jelly> Pegasus_RPG, does this fail for you? python -c 'from cryptography.hazmat.primitives.asymmetric.utils import decode_dss_signature'
2633 [19:39:43] <Pegasus_RPG> Yes. "ImportError: cannot import name decode_dss_signature"
2634 [19:40:31] <jelly> perhaps you have a stray copy of cryptography module somewhere
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2636 [19:41:04] <jelly> locate cryptography/__init__.py
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2639 [19:41:30] <jelly> ii python-paramiko 2.0.0-1 all Make ssh v2 connections (Python 2)
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2641 [19:41:47] <Pegasus_RPG> I have one in /usr/lib/python2.7 and in /usr/local/lib/python2.7
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2643 [19:41:59] <jelly> Pegasus_RPG, /usr/local eh
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2645 [19:42:05] <jelly> get rid of it
2646 [19:42:11] <Pegasus_RPG> I didn't put it there! :)
2647 [19:42:15] <jelly> yes you did
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2651 [19:42:36] <jelly> or someone else ran "pip install crap" as root
2652 [19:42:40] <Pegasus_RPG> not intentionally anyway. hmm, the diff is only a deprecation warning, but deleting
2653 [19:42:42] <Pegasus_RPG> ah okay
2654 [19:43:15] <jelly> (don't run pip install crap as root. Use virtualenv if you need to, and normal user)
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2660 [19:44:09] <jelly> delete or move away the whole module directory, not just that file
2661 [19:44:15] <Pegasus_RPG> Is there a way to tell what was installed with pip? pip list shows everything, even those installed as debian packages
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2664 [19:44:36] <jelly> no idea
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2667 [19:45:30] <Pegasus_RPG> There are a number of things in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages though
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2670 [19:45:48] * Pegasus_RPG renames the crypto one
2671 [19:45:50] <jelly> Pegasus_RPG, as far as distro packages are concerned, you can safely get rid of everything below in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/
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2674 [19:46:05] <jelly> s/ in//
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2676 [19:47:11] <Pegasus_RPG> jelly: that worked. Thank you!
2677 [19:47:18] <jelly> ... dpkg -S /usr/local/lib/python2.7
2678 [19:47:18] <jelly> dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/local/lib/python2.7
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2680 [19:48:07] <Pegasus_RPG> ahh, looks like I manually installed galileo via pip at some point
2681 [19:48:07] <greycat> ... dpkg -S /usr/local/
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2685 [19:51:31] <jelly> python2.7-minimal postinst creates dirs there
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2687 [19:52:13] <Pegasus_RPG> jelly: /me ...and reinstalls python2.7-minimal to be safe
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2696 [19:55:13] <Pegasus_RPG> Thank you very much
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2699 [19:55:33] <jelly> you're welcome!
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2707 [19:58:42] <clunix> hello everyone
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2735 [20:12:15] <clunix> got a question... my laptop a Compaq C58, that I've already have installed Debian for several times and several versions, since version 9, I've had to have the files of my wi-fi card (a Realtek) on a pen drive since the installation doesn't have them on the DVD install media. Now with the install of the 9.4 version my wi-fi card that have always been wlan1 suddently change to a Ralink and a wlo1. The system works fine, just curious... if
2736 [20:12:15] <clunix> anyone can explain I appreciate.
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2743 [20:14:19] <hassoon> 'evening
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2751 [20:18:23] <somiaj> frikinz: correct, aptitude removes auto installed packages that no longer have any manually installed packages dependend/recommend/suggest them. apt-get/apt requires you remove these packages as a sperate step.
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2811 [21:01:21] <Pegasus_RPG> clunix: I saw the same thing on my wired NICs. It seems they're named more specifically based on what type of chipset they use instead of a generic ethX or wlanX
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2817 [21:04:49] <duiv> anybody else here problems with gnome-shell/gdm3/mutter etc on sid?
2818 [21:05:30] <annadane> !debian-next
2819 [21:05:31] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
2820 [21:05:42] <annadane> and also when you go there you'll need to specify what "problems"
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2827 [21:07:01] <duiv> ah, ok thanks. Will try there. Problems as in: X totally broken...
2828 [21:07:49] <annadane> you get to keep all the pieces :)
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2835 [21:12:06] <jim> duiv, you should know that they;re going to want more... because, "totally broken" is about the same as "doesn't work" which is less than no info
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2839 [21:14:05] <jelly> it's sid, totally broken is just another Wednesday
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2843 [21:14:35] <jim> ideally, they'll want, what does it do wrong, what doesn't it do that it should, did you try anything to fix it, if so, for each thing you did, what were the results
2844 [21:15:00] <jim> if you give em all that, it will make it easy and pleasant to help you
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2846 [21:15:26] <jelly> Ideally user checks the BTS, investigates and reports without asking on irc.
2847 [21:15:37] <n4dir> if X is totally broken then it doesn't relate to gnome. To give an example why exact info is necessary
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2862 [21:21:37] <jim> to give you another idea... "I'm having problems with sid" "ok, of the 4398264 problems in sid at the moment, which ines are you having"
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2872 [21:27:26] <annadane> the idea is that the people using sid should know how to get themselves out of problems because they're experienced users
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2875 [21:28:36] <somiaj> or at least not expect someone to be able to fix it by a flick of a wand
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2878 [21:29:38] <n4dir> get yourself out ; not necessarily. But being able to investigate a problem.
2879 [21:30:11] <n4dir> iow: if you will never run sid, you will never get that kind of experience ... (not that it would be needed).
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2884 [21:31:52] <annadane> i've just stopped using it for my main desktop
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2886 [21:32:10] <annadane> in future when i want to fix bugs for the next release i'll use it on a secondary pc
2887 [21:32:42] <somiaj> annadane: you evolved much faster than I did, 10+ years of fighting bugs in sid until I decided I wanted to get work done (note 8 of those years I only worked part time)
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2889 [21:33:48] <n4dir> i stopped it too, btw.
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2891 [21:34:18] <n4dir> though it never failed big times on me. But i sometimes don't boot the debian laptop for a while, so i don't want the permanent upgrade hazzle
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2894 [21:36:40] <somiaj> my issue in the edn was I was only upgrading every few months, and installing new software would sometimes take a day out of my workflow.
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2897 [21:37:05] <somiaj> since that usually required an upgrade, maybe dealing with reocmpling my nvidia drivers and so on. I could fix it, but tired of spending more time fixing it than working
2898 [21:37:16] <annadane> fundamentally i do only have one computer and i do need it for work
2899 [21:37:16] <n4dir> somiaj: ah, yes, i guess so.
2900 [21:38:10] <n4dir> i guess once a week upgrading is a minimum, but i did it each day twice (after starting and before stopping the PC)
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2902 [21:38:44] <n4dir> can't think of a good reason why you would want to run sid, though. besides lulz, wasting time, such.
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2904 [21:39:22] <annadane> well, to fix bugs. but do it on another pc on which you don't do your daily productivity tasks
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2908 [21:39:58] <n4dir> good point, but i was not a bug fixer and probably never will be. Hence i missed that point.
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2910 [21:40:21] <somiaj> I maybe getting old but 10+ years ago the difference between stable and sid seemed to be much greater (but the linux desktop was activally developing at that time). I do notice the difference now, but doens't seem as much (Espically with backports available)
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2912 [21:41:06] <greycat> Yeah, the backports are a relatively new addition.
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2914 [21:41:38] <n4dir> huh?
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2916 [21:42:06] <n4dir> i think they existed as long i used PC's (i guess that's relatively ?)
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2918 [21:42:31] <somiaj> I think wheezy was the first release to include them offically, and they only existed unoffically for a release or two before that
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2922 [21:43:34] <n4dir> i started when etch was on the move to lenny (if lenny was the release after etch)
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2924 [21:43:55] <n4dir> unofficially might be.
2925 [21:44:08] <greycat> dpkg etch->lenny
2926 [21:44:08] <dpkg> Read the release notes, ask me about <lenny release notes>. Ensure your Etch installation is up to date, ask me about <etch sources.list> (aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade). Then ask me about <lenny sources.list>. aptitude update; aptitude install aptitude; aptitude safe-upgrade; aptitude full-upgrade. Also ask me about <lenny> and <lenny->squeeze>.
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2932 [21:45:28] <tw> squeeze was the first with official backports, I think.
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2935 [21:45:41] <tw> lenny and etch had unofficial backports.
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2940 [21:46:36] <greycat> !etchnhalf
2941 [21:46:36] <dpkg> Etch-And-A-Half -- additional packages in the Debian <4.0r4> point release providing additional support for more hardware. It included a 2.6.24 kernel along with an updated installer. As security support for Etch has ended, the Etch-And-A-Half release is no longer supported; ask me about <etch->lenny> to upgrade. replaced-url
2942 [21:46:59] <greycat> so many weird things back then
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2944 [21:47:47] <n4dir> debian-multimedia was mentioned all the time too.
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2949 [21:48:17] <greycat> what percentage was people swearing at it, and what percentage was people having problems because of it? :)
2950 [21:48:30] <tw> together? probably 100%.
2951 [21:48:42] <n4dir> yeah, that was the one part. The other part recommending it all the time.
2952 [21:48:45] <hypn0> is this #retro-debain :-)
2953 [21:48:47] <tw> multimedia on linux was a sh&@show back then.
2954 [21:49:04] <jelly> it provided stuff that was almost completely absent from debian
2955 [21:49:13] <n4dir> hypn0: :-) Sorry for it.
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2957 [21:49:29] <jelly> the swearing only started after Debian multimedia started actually doing something
2958 [21:49:48] <tw> like lame, and decss.
2959 [21:49:51] <greycat> !remove dmm
2960 [21:49:51] <dpkg> If you want to remove the packages from deb-multimedia.org and reinstall the packages from Debian repositories, one could do this: dpkg --remove --force-depends $(aptitude search '?narrow(?version(CURRENT),?origin(Unofficial Multimedia Packages))' --disable-columns -F%p); remove the dmm repository from sources.list; apt-get update; apt-get install -f; install the still missing packages which were removed in the former process ...
2961 [21:49:54] <jelly> even slightly broken packages are better than no packages
2962 [21:50:00] <jelly> tw, or mplayer that actually works
2963 [21:50:16] <tw> mplayer worked, it just didn't work fast =p
2964 [21:50:17] <jelly> or libavcodec build that isn't totally crippled
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2968 [21:51:16] <jelly> or acroread that can be easily installed and removed
2969 [21:51:35] <tw> gstreamer wasn't around yet, xine was, alsa multichannel mixing was still completely eff'd.
2970 [21:51:44] <n4dir> but these days you seldom here about it? i sure don't.
2971 [21:51:45] <jelly> xine was shit
2972 [21:51:53] <tw> xine was shit.
2973 [21:51:55] <jelly> gstreamer still is
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2976 [21:52:20] <greycat> n4dir: you don't hear about it because the stuff in stretch actually works
2977 [21:52:35] <tw> Or people don't have to try to do bonkers stuff to get through the day./
2978 [21:52:36] <n4dir> yup, so my guess is right.
2979 [21:52:45] <tw> Like manually construct a gstreamer pipeline to decode RTP packets.
2980 [21:52:48] <tw> I remember doing that.
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2982 [21:52:57] <greycat> until some moron notices that there is a version in the wild with a slightly higher number than they version they've got, and they get SNS
2983 [21:53:13] <jelly> ,v mpv
2984 [21:53:14] <judd> Package: mpv on amd64 -- jessie: 0.6.2-2; stretch: 0.23.0-2+deb9u2; stretch-security: 0.23.0-2+deb9u2; buster: 0.27.2-1; sid: 0.27.2-1; experimental: 0.28.0-1; jessie-multimedia: 1:0.8.3-dmo1; buster-multimedia: 1:0.27.2-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 1:0.27.2-dmo1; stretch-multimedia: 1:0.27.2-dmo1+deb9u1
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2986 [21:54:38] <tw> jelly: mpv is a great end user framework, but it's not a source or editing framework. afaik, all of mplayer's enc stuff is stripped out.
2987 [21:55:13] <jelly> yes. That was not a comment on anything you said.
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3050 [22:23:36] <strk> !lxc
3051 [22:23:36] <dpkg> Linux Containers (LXC) is an open source virtualization system using kernel-level isolation. replaced-url
3052 [22:24:04] <strk> do you know which package includes the `lxc` binary ? it is lxd-client on ubuntu (for reference)
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3054 [22:24:36] <strk> neither 'lxc' nor 'lxctl' have it in Jessie
3055 [22:24:40] <bites> the lxc binary is for lxd not lxc, which iirc is not packaged for debian.
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3057 [22:25:20] <strk> oh
3058 [22:25:51] <bites> you can install it through snap, though it might be buggy.
3059 [22:26:46] <strk> !lxd
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3061 [22:27:08] <strk> what's the difference between lxc and lxd ?
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3065 [22:28:23] <bites> lxd is an abstraction layer on top of lxc in a way. some nice security features and usability stuff. unprivileged containers by default for example.
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3082 [22:39:03] <davidisgreat> I p2v'd a Debian 6.0.10 server. VMware converter failed saying it couldn't install grub. I downloaded the disk and booted the VM into rescue mode. Its asking what file system to use as root. I think the old server had a soft raid which isn't being assembled. I'm not sure how to proceed.
3083 [22:39:17] <davidisgreat> I have access to the old physical server. I can pull information off of it.
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3097 [22:46:51] <davidisgreat> replaced-url
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3101 [22:50:12] <mateliveinstall> Can debian-live-9.4.0-i386-mate be used as rescue media?
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3104 [22:50:30] <Tenkawa> it should be
3105 [22:50:37] <mateliveinstall> how?
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3107 [22:51:00] <Tenkawa> i think its in the advanced boot menu
3108 [22:51:02] <somiaj> mateliveinstall: once in the live system, mount and chroot into your install.
3109 [22:51:09] <somiaj> or yea, might be able to do it more automatically too
3110 [22:51:34] <Tenkawa> theres various ways
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3112 [22:51:49] <magyar> hi, need help with cryptsetup, how can I have only one password for multiple mounts?
3113 [22:51:50] <mateliveinstall> somiaj, it is not my install, it is a friend's install who is far away from me. He is not a technical guy
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3120 [22:53:20] <mateliveinstall> On his lapop, he installed Debian 9 using debian-live-9.4.0-i386-mate, the installation went fine but after rebooting there was no grub menu and windows 10 booted up straightaway
3121 [22:53:23] <somiaj> mateliveinstall: I'm unsure if the live image have a rescue mode like the offical instaler does, maybe have them run a live sysetm, run an ssh server, give you an account and you can ssh into it to fix.
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3125 [22:53:54] <annadane> it's also possible he also just needs to reconfigure grub
3126 [22:53:55] <somiaj> oh it might be grub installed just fine, but it was in efi mode, if in efi mode, they may need to point their firmware at the grub efi installer (not the windows one)
3127 [22:54:00] <annadane> er, wait
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3129 [22:54:07] <annadane> i'm stupid, never min
3130 [22:54:08] <annadane> d
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3134 [22:54:25] <somiaj> arg grub efi boot file (not installer)
3135 [22:54:25] <mateliveinstall> he is got a laptop and no internet access at present. I do not have a ssh server and neither does he
3136 [22:54:54] <mateliveinstall> sorry: i am a newbie too
3137 [22:55:00] <somiaj> there are non-free live images with firmware for wifi controllers. I was just thinking if you are helping remotely that might help
3138 [22:55:15] <somiaj> ahh in that case, unsure what is best. Most likely they need to do something along the lines of this factoid
3139 [22:55:18] <somiaj> !fixmbr
3140 [22:55:18] <dpkg> To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>.
3141 [22:55:19] <mateliveinstall> He has no internet access at all
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3143 [22:55:34] <somiaj> (though I would first see if there grub put an .efi file on the efi partition and if you can just point the firmware at it to boot)
3144 [22:55:43] <somiaj> mateliveinstall: ahh, well that does change things.
3145 [22:56:00] <RoyK> davidisgreat: try smartctl --examine /dev/sdX on those disks
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3149 [22:56:38] <RoyK> davidisgreat: also, there's #linux-raid with a few more people knowledgable about mdraid
3150 [22:56:41] <davidisgreat> RoyK: should I boot a shell in the installer enviroment?
3151 [22:57:23] <RoyK> davidisgreat: alt+f2 should do
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3153 [22:57:30] <RoyK> if mdadm is there
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3155 [22:57:44] <RoyK> it should be
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3160 [22:59:01] <davidisgreat> it says it can't find smartctl
3161 [22:59:39] <RoyK> then get some live image
3162 [22:59:49] <RoyK> davidisgreat: is this your root fs?
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3166 [23:00:30] <davidisgreat> I don't have a root fs because the raid isn't assembling
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3172 [23:03:16] <mateliveinstall> somiaj: how can he find out which partition is his root filesystem?
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3174 [23:04:32] <RoyK> davidisgreat: well, was the root on the raid?
3175 [23:06:20] <davidisgreat> RoyK: replaced-url
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3177 [23:06:38] <RoyK> davidisgreat: raid level?
3178 [23:06:41] <davidisgreat> 1
3179 [23:06:43] <somiaj> mateliveinstall: from linux you can look at lsblk or just mount the partitions and see what is in them.
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3181 [23:07:08] <RoyK> davidisgreat: ok, then boot on something that can read raid1, the debian installer can do that
3182 [23:07:21] <RoyK> davidisgreat: preferably, boot on some live image
3183 [23:07:23] <davidisgreat> replaced-url
3184 [23:07:33] <RoyK> davidisgreat: so that you can examine and perhaps fix things
3185 [23:07:36] <davidisgreat> I booted off the 6.0.10 installer iso. That matches the OS
3186 [23:07:50] <RoyK> that looks healthy
3187 [23:07:51] <mateliveinstall> sorry, but he can not boot into the Debian 9 he installed on his 64bit laptop
3188 [23:08:13] <davidisgreat> I'm grabbing that from the physical server.
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3191 [23:08:46] <davidisgreat> I ran mdadm --assemble --scan on the VM but it failed
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3196 [23:09:07] <davidisgreat> mdadm: No arrays found in the config file or automatically
3197 [23:09:15] <RoyK> davidisgreat: are you using md on a vm?
3198 [23:09:25] <RoyK> on physical drives?
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3200 [23:09:41] <davidisgreat> Its a physcal server I am trying to virutalize. Yes, I moved all disks.
3201 [23:09:53] <RoyK> please don't do that
3202 [23:09:53] <davidisgreat> I don't need to be as there is a hardware raid at the hypervisor level aready
3203 [23:10:00] <davidisgreat> I'm not sure how else to move it
3204 [23:10:02] <RoyK> let the physical server deal with storage
3205 [23:10:23] <RoyK> and then run the VMs on top of that, on md/lvm or zfs
3206 [23:10:31] <RoyK> don't virtualise the raid
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3208 [23:10:52] <davidisgreat> I can delete the VM and run vmware converter again. I'm not sure how to make it not grab all the disks.
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3211 [23:11:17] <bolt> are you running the vm with physical disks, or are you working on images?
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3213 [23:11:40] <RoyK> sounds like the former
3214 [23:11:50] <davidisgreat> the VM is on vmware esxi. So the disks are emulated
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3222 [23:13:12] <bolt> yeah.. don't do that. there's no reason to run a raid1 inside a vm that doesn't use passthrough disks.
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3224 [23:13:40] <bolt> and even with passthrough, you'd want to do the raid on the host and pass that
3225 [23:13:43] <davidisgreat> I agree. I don't want nested raids. I'm just not sure how to migrate it.
3226 [23:14:00] <bolt> mount the file system and sync it over?
3227 [23:14:29] <davidisgreat> Can I do that with vmware converter?
3228 [23:14:31] <bolt> create empty file system of same type, sync the other one to it, then, since it's the root, fix the fstab and such
3229 [23:15:04] <bolt> what does vmware converter give you?
3230 [23:15:38] <davidisgreat> I'll run it again and grab a screenshot when it gets to the disk options.
3231 [23:15:51] <bolt> but why are you running it?
3232 [23:16:01] <davidisgreat> to get the physical server into a VM
3233 [23:16:13] <bolt> just make a vm
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3235 [23:16:19] <bolt> sync the file system
3236 [23:16:20] <davidisgreat> Are you saying I should install a fresh debian installation then move the data in?
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3238 [23:16:39] <bolt> sure. or just boot a live cd in your vm and set up empty disks
3239 [23:16:45] <bolt> you don't need to install anything really
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3243 [23:18:30] <davidisgreat> replaced-url
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3248 [23:22:09] <tw> 3x disks in raid1, two of which are twice the size of the raid? Interesting.
3249 [23:22:19] <davidisgreat> one of them must not be used.
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3251 [23:22:37] <tw> Hopefully it's not a problem that your md0 doesn't have a partition table; hopefully it's smart enough to put that in a partition and not make a raw disk.
3252 [23:23:24] <aindilis> This used to work: `mplayer -ao pulse::alsa_output.usb-GeneralPlus_USB_Audio_Device-00-Device.analog-stereo $@`, but I upgraded and now it doesn't
3253 [23:23:43] <a_duck_> does anyone know why my supported version of opengl would have dropped from 2.1 to 1.3 from jessie to stretch? i have a thinkpad x220, it's using the i915 driver
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3256 [23:24:52] <a_duck_> i have a little program that's just a spinning textured cube i wrote a couple of years ago, and i'm getting segfaults now i'm running it in stretch
3257 [23:25:07] <tw> aindilis: I'd check if you still have that output listed in `pacmd list-sinks`
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3262 [23:26:48] <davidisgreat> From within the physical server, can I just copy all of / to / on the VM?
3263 [23:27:50] <jelly> if you already did P2V you can just dd the existing filesystem to its new partition, fix fstab and boot loader
3264 [23:28:09] <somiaj> a_duck_: check the xorg log file and see what driver is actually be loaded/detected. Also in the jessie->stretch switch, there is some swtich to use xserver-xorg-video-modesetting over xserver-xorg-video-intel, and sometimes the intel one is better for paticular hardware.
3265 [23:28:25] <somiaj> a_duck_: and sometimes the modesetting driver does better.
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3267 [23:28:45] <davidisgreat> put I p2v'd some disks that I can't assemble into a raid. I think I should delete them and create a new single disk, then try to move the data into it
3268 [23:29:08] <jelly> oh. is the data there or not?
3269 [23:29:27] <davidisgreat> yes, the data has all been moved. I don't know how to assemble the raid and access it.
3270 [23:29:38] <davidisgreat> Plus I don't even want to. Then I would have nested raids
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3272 [23:30:35] <jelly> davidisgreat, what does lsblk on the VM look like right now? Boot a decent livecd of some sort if you don't have it.
3273 [23:31:36] <jelly> and how do you know the data is there if you can't access it :-)
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3275 [23:31:46] <davidisgreat> I don't have that command. I'll download a better livecd
3276 [23:32:07] <davidisgreat> I don't, it could have been copying garbage.
3277 [23:32:10] <jelly> grml.org is debian-based and has almost any imaginable sysadmin tool
3278 [23:32:12] <a_duck_> somiaj: ah! thanks. is this what i'm looking for "[ 78.568] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 0
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3280 [23:34:31] <aindilis> tw: thanks, I was able to see what to use with the mplayer -ao for the sink using paman !!!
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3284 [23:37:14] <somiaj> a_duck_: on some hardware removing xserver-xorg-video-modesetting will force the intel driver to be used (which can sometimes be better). You can also write an xorg.conf snippit to force the intel driver being used over modesetting driver. Also look at glxinfo and xvinfo for other output about what is loaded.
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3336 [23:58:15] <a_duck> somiaj: can't seem to remove the mode setting driver as it's virtual. intel is definitely installed...
3337 [23:58:27] <a_duck> intel(0): Using Kernel Mode Setting driver: i915, version 1.6.0 20160919 <- is this intel or modesetting?
3338 [23:58:42] <somiaj> a_duck: are you fully upgraded to stretch?
3339 [23:58:53] <somiaj> ,v xserver-xorg-video-modesetting
3340 [23:58:54] <judd> Package: xserver-xorg-video-modesetting on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.3.0-1; jessie: 0.9.0-2
3341 [23:59:08] <a_duck> i've got an xorg conf file in xorg.conf.d, i'm still getting segfaults unfortunately
3342 [23:59:23] <a_duck> oh, i thought i was
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3344 [23:59:40] <somiaj> hmm, my memeory must be faailing me, guess they put the modesetting driver as default in xorg, and it isn't a seaperate package anymore.
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