1[00:03:45] <Oksana> teatime : Thank you. I just happen think that since GUI exists, then everything should be doable via GUI. Including upgrades from one release to another. I think I have successfully upgraded to stretch by now, even though it has taken three or four attempts to do so.
15[00:08:16] <setuid> teatime: Right, so I've got this monstrous bootstrap and it installs a large number of packages in a single apt-get -y install pipeline, I'd rather pare that down to a smaller subset that satisfies the same result.
16[00:08:16] <teatime> setuid: you can look at reverse depends for a package with apt-rdepends --reverse or apt-cache --rdepends (in those two "rdepends" one r means recursive and one means reverse)
17[00:08:23] <setuid> vs. explicitly naming each of the 40 packages
18[00:08:30] <jhutchins> Oksana: Those of us with a lot of experience with computers much prefer the cli for administrative tasks.
19[00:08:34] <rant> setuid: you gotta install all the deps.. suggests/recommends are the optional portions.. deps are what it took to build it and in nearly all but maybe a few narrow cases where you may be able to get away with runing it with errors, a package wont work without all its dependencies without being rebuilt without being compiled against those deps
21[00:10:15] <setuid> rant: What I mean is, let's say I install 'foo' and foo requires 'bar', so I install 'foo' and 'bar', but other-foo would automatically drag in 'foo' and 'bar' by just installing 'other-foo'. Currently, the code does 'apt-get install foo bar other-foo', when I'd like to just 'apt-get install other-foo' and have it pull in 'foo' and 'bar', withotu explicitly naming them.
22[00:10:27] <rant> setuid: if you are merely trying to make yourself a simple way to install your customized setup you can simple build a package list or a metapackage of your own based on what you installed
23[00:11:22] <teatime> setuid: I don't know of an automatic way, no. You can manually figure it out, is all.
24[00:11:22] <rant> setuid: that is already how the system works.. you dont have to name all dependencies, the package manager automatically resolves them
25[00:11:39] <teatime> rant: he's not being super clear but you're misunderstanding his request.
26[00:11:47] <setuid> rant: It's more for ease of package management on the developer side, vs. the package manager itself.
27[00:11:53] <rant> teatime: yes I suspected both of those
90[00:24:42] <teatime> setuid: just apt show build-essential
91[00:24:47] <Oksana> teatime : I realise that sudo pkill synaptic was the reason dpkg -a --configure was required, and some packages were broken. I also realise it was the only way forward after synaptic was stuck in the clouds, without anchor to GUI. I do not see what glibc expected me to do, as in, how I should have
92[00:25:04] <setuid> apt-cache show?
93[00:25:19] <setuid> er, n/m, you said 'apt show' and my brain typed 'apt-show'
94[00:25:20] <teatime> Oksana: I don't know either. The right way to upgrade dists is to follow the instructions in the release notes. Which would never tell you to use synaptic.
97[00:26:19] <rant> setuid: if you were to remove these redundancies you could introduce problems like with those deps you showed there is a real circle jerk around the python-all-dev python-dev lib-python-dev all which ultimately just get you currently in stable libpython2.7-dev however those redundancies address the issue say if you switch at some point to a future release where its not python2.7 it will go through that
98[00:26:25] <rant> clusterfuck and eventually get you the current python version
99[00:26:32] <jhutchins> You can't even do all admin tasks with the GUI on Windows.
100[00:26:45] <jhutchins> OSX you probably can.
101[00:26:58] <jhutchins> No, there are some that require CLI.
102[00:27:17] * Oksana shakes head
103[00:27:17] <Oksana> manually restarted kdm without killing GUI? Or should I have just ignored glibc's warning, and told the glibc upgrade to proceed forward without attempting to manually restart kdm?
104[00:27:27] <rant> setuid: its for that reason why we have a cruft of metapackages in any given debian release to get deps from older versions to resolve to their newer equivalents
105[00:27:28] <teatime> setuid: rant actually makes a good point; there are times I would specify a redundant set of deps, because they may not always be redunant in the future.
106[00:27:28] <setuid> rant: Yes, and insert the pip/easy_install madness when we move to py3
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108[00:28:14] <teatime> setuid: also your list is not really allll that long, I humbly suggest you're perhaps being a perfectionist in a non-productive way (which I fall victim to too often)
109[00:28:43] <Oksana> Of course, I have never had to upgrade from one release to another on my mobile. But at least, it provides GUI to manage, edit, disable and enable, add and remove, repositories. No need to edit text file in command line.
110[00:29:19] <teatime> Oksana: CLI is a 1st-class interface on *nix. Not so much elsewhere. If you don't want to do CLI, don't do *nix.
111[00:29:30] <teatime> Oksana: in fact on *nix it's the GUI that's a 2nd-class citizen.
114[00:30:02] <teatime> Oksana: Synaptic was invented by Ubuntu; Debian was happy to exist for decades w/o graphical package management :)
115[00:30:13] <rant> teatime: its called being an idealist I believe :P
116[00:30:22] * Oksana nods
117[00:30:24] <teatime> Sure. I get that in a perfect world, it should work.
118[00:30:30] <teatime> Maybe we'll get there eventually.
119[00:30:55] <rant> but yeah while I begin to understand your problem a whole lot better, especially when using all these complex python deps you want that redundancy because its going to keep stuff from breaking at some point in the future
121[00:31:33] <jhutchins> I belive the large majority of Linux systems don't even have a GUI.
122[00:31:47] <rant> setuid: an interim and less destructive solution is to maybe use equivs or something simple to make your own package that depends on many others.. so you can simplfiy things for yourself
280[01:54:31] <impermanence> First time debian user. First thing I notice is I can use apt-get install to get any package I need. Please help me, lol. Obviously I'd like to put some repo url's in /etc/apt/sources.list but...
317[02:00:44] <impermanence> the bullshit above or my gist?
318[02:00:51] <impermanence> likely the former I suppose ;)
319[02:01:01] <mutante> spamming to not comment on spam :)
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321[02:01:16] <doubledutch> !offtopic
322[02:01:16] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
427[02:47:14] <Bailar> We're just about to use that section, would you like a crack at it first?} I quickly unzipped my pants and wasted no time jamming my erect penis into the stallion's defenseless asshole. With each thrust, I donkey punched the horse in the back of the head, making it clench its ass even tighter. I came just as the horse died. I was delighted. Popeyes definitely went the extra mile to make me a satisfied customer.
428[02:47:14] <Blackbourn> girl you must be a 0day topsite because I just wanna max out your slots
429[02:47:23] <Coldren> God damn it. I am sick of these extremist arab fucks. I wish we would turn the region into green glowing glass. Don't feed me this "america caused it" bullshit either, they are a bunch of fucking animals and should be treated as such.
430[02:47:23] <Boxer> FUCK U!!!!! I WILL FIND U AND KILL U A HUNDRED TIMES SEVEN!!!!! U CAN COUNT THE DAYS ON UR HANDS THAT U HAVE TO LIVE BEFORE I SLAY YOU IN THE STREETS AND BUTCHER U LIKE A CATTLE!!!!!! NO ONE DARES TO DO DISGRACE ME AS U HAVE!!!! WATCH UR BACK, FOR I COME WITH MURDER ON MY BREATH!!!!!!
431[02:47:24] <Bailar> Roll Playing (RP) turns into real life tragedies and Real people get hurt or die. If you want to RP why not try to Roll Play real life situations such as how to pay the electric bill, house payment, and car payment, insurance and so on. Roll Play your parents working hard to give you a better education and life.
432[02:47:24] <Blackbourn> girl you must be a sata2 hard drive because you are modestly increasing my pipe
433[02:47:33] <Coldren> I'm a Vietnam Vet. I don't like gooks, Islam and all that shit. It is a just war in Iraq. Those son of a bitchin Iraqi's are trying to make other people live like them, including you. Look at what they did to the Kurds, the invasion of Kuwait and the beheadings of the internationals who have nothing to do with the war. They're cowards and eventually will be eliminated if for anything, their oil. The John Kerry liberals of the world are also your enemies al
434[02:47:33] <Boxer> speaking of policy, at least my country has enough sense to limit itself to two moderately similar political parties. you disgust me with your parliamentary coalitions that don't manage to do anything except to highlight the evils of socialism
435[02:47:34] <Bailar> Last weekend I slept over at a friend's house, but forgot to bring an extra pair of underwear. He offered to let me borrow a pair of his. Well, we went for a long car ride, and long story short...I shit in his underwear. Not a lot, but whoever did the laundry would definitely notice. When we got home, I pulled him aside and told him about it. "Pull down your pants. I want to see the damage," he replied. I was somewhat taken aback by this response. It was his un
436[02:47:34] <Blackbourn> When I masterbate I fantasize about strange things. Like shitting in other peoples mouths while I watch them slowly drown in quicksand. I wish I wasn't so fucked up. What's worse is that seems like the only way I can get off.
437[02:47:43] <Coldren> girl you must be a .bin with no .cue file because I have to wrangle with you for hours only be burned in the end
438[02:47:43] <Boxer> put down that joystick, son, and get yourself to the bar; there are all sorts of women out there waiting to take your money in exchange for a pittance of shallow affection
439[02:47:44] <Bailar> Niggers fucked my ass liberally. They strapped me onto the hood of their Cadillac Escalade and could not keep their enormous dicks out of me. They were performing many red flag touches. I could not believe how big their cocks were. I told the niggers the city would not approve of an undercover police officer shitting blood for a week without a doctor's note.
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441[02:47:44] <Blackbourn> Presumably you're either joking, or you're not a web designer.
443[02:47:53] <Coldren> jesus I spent the formative years of my childhood masturbating to a shemale sprite
444[02:47:53] <Boxer> Well, I can't waste all day in this IRC. Gotta go to a T5 meet for some training. Gotta place high in this years TiT and Evo2k5 tournaments. (Tekken 5.) See ya guys. :(
445[02:48:03] <Coldren> ObjC is able to use C code directly without change. That's why MS is pushing C# - it makes it harder to port code to OSX. With Windows projects done in C, most of the code can remain unchanged. You just add a little ObjC to handle the system stuff. With C#, most of the code must be completely rewritten.
446[02:48:03] <Boxer> I hate when people think they're saving the world just by riding their bike. It's like those black and white couples that think they're fighting racism just by fucking each other.
447[02:48:13] <Coldren> Hey /b/, I have a very serious problem. I'm fucking crying because of how stupid I am.Okay, so my girlfriend was supposed to come over to my house today because I was going to go take her to a movie. She lives about 20 minutes away, and the movie we were supposed to see started at 4:15, which was in about 40 minutes. I figured "cool, I'll just play Pokemon while I wait".So I'm playing Pokemon, and having a pretty damn good time. Anyway, she finally does sh
448[02:48:13] <Boxer> Last weekend I slept over at a friend's house, but forgot to bring an extra pair of underwear. He offered to let me borrow a pair of his. Well, we went for a long car ride, and long story short...I shit in his underwear. Not a lot, but whoever did the laundry would definitely notice. When we got home, I pulled him aside and told him about it. "Pull down your pants. I want to see the damage," he replied. I was somewhat taken aback by this response. It was his u
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450[02:48:23] <Coldren> I am a gay. My problem is my asshole is very small and even my finger does not fit inside. How can I make my asshole wider.
451[02:48:23] <Boxer> Â 9/11 was done by sandniggers and all 7-11s are run by sandniggers. coincidence? i think not.
452[02:48:33] <Coldren> I'm sort of new to this linux thing, but there's this directory on my new install of Debian 3.1 called "/usr/bin". It was all messed up when I first went in there. None of the files had descriptive names, and it took me like an hour to figure out they were executables, since none of them had .exe on the end of them. Furthermore, whenever I double click them, they just pop up a command prompt for a few seconds then go away. I was gonna delete them, but I go
453[02:48:33] <Boxer> I have always fantasized about being a doll. like one of those real dolls, only my owner doesn't know I'm in there. They think I'm just a doll, when really I am enjoying everything that is bring done to me. Having no control of my body, being dominated completely, and then being put away when I'm not being used. However, I know that this is not possible in the real world, which saddens me. I however I'm sure there is someone out there that would gladly own me
455[02:48:43] <Coldren> TAKE THE RED PILLTAKE THE BLUE PILLTAKE THE RED PILLTAKE THE BLUE PILLTAKE THE RED PILLTAKE THE BLUE PILLTAKE THE RED PILLTAKE THE BLUE PILLTAKE THE RED PILLTAKE THE BLUE PILLTAKE THE RED PILLTAKE THE BLUE PILLTAKE THE RED PILLTAKE THE BLUE PILLTAKE THE RED PILLTAKE THE BLUE PILLTAKE THE RED PILL
456[02:48:43] <Boxer> I didn't get laid. She said she was "bi but doesn't date guys", so we're just friends. God I'm such a fucking loser.
457[02:48:53] <Coldren> girl you must be a rodeo bull because i want to ride you for 8 seconds and then get off
458[02:48:53] <Boxer> girl you must be java bytecode because you let me use you anywhere I want
461[02:49:03] <Coldren> God damn it. I am sick of these extremist arab fucks. I wish we would turn the region into green glowing glass. Don't feed me this "america caused it" bullshit either, they are a bunch of fucking animals and should be treated as such.
462[02:49:03] <Boxer> FUCK U!!!!! I WILL FIND U AND KILL U A HUNDRED TIMES SEVEN!!!!! U CAN COUNT THE DAYS ON UR HANDS THAT U HAVE TO LIVE BEFORE I SLAY YOU IN THE STREETS AND BUTCHER U LIKE A CATTLE!!!!!! NO ONE DARES TO DO DISGRACE ME AS U HAVE!!!! WATCH UR BACK, FOR I COME WITH MURDER ON MY BREATH!!!!!!
463[02:49:13] <Coldren> I'm a Vietnam Vet. I don't like gooks, Islam and all that shit. It is a just war in Iraq. Those son of a bitchin Iraqi's are trying to make other people live like them, including you. Look at what they did to the Kurds, the invasion of Kuwait and the beheadings of the internationals who have nothing to do with the war. They're cowards and eventually will be eliminated if for anything, their oil. The John Kerry liberals of the world are also your enemies al
464[02:49:13] <Boxer> speaking of policy, at least my country has enough sense to limit itself to two moderately similar political parties. you disgust me with your parliamentary coalitions that don't manage to do anything except to highlight the evils of socialism
465[02:49:23] <Coldren> girl you must be a .bin with no .cue file because I have to wrangle with you for hours only be burned in the end
466[02:49:23] <Boxer> put down that joystick, son, and get yourself to the bar; there are all sorts of women out there waiting to take your money in exchange for a pittance of shallow affection
472[02:49:54] <Anma> I am pleased to announce that, in addition to having spotless tiles and grout in my bathroom, my hands are several orders of magnitude cleaner than yours. My fingernails all but sparkle in the daylight, due to their highly polished status. Upon examination under a scanning electron microscope, you will notice that the crevices of my hands are quite literally free of germs or other bacterial growths. Your hands, in comparison, are a veritable wasteland of urine, d
473[02:49:55] <Krasney> It's about time I told the truth. The reason I don't like gays is that when I was in the navy I had several homosexual experiences and so i know what faggots get up to is the devils work. This black guy in my dorm used to make me suck his dick and then he'd pump my ass full of his vile semen and there was nothing I could do about it. The shit eating faggot had me trapped there for months at sea so I had to suck his rancid sambo dick until we got back to por
475[02:50:04] <Anma> they call me the King, of downloading THings, got bandwidth like no one on Earth. My modems are hot, but the warez I got, adds to my collecting-stuff mirth. I can't burn enough, CD's that are stuffed, with rars, zips, and tars of all kinds, but I must be strong, download all night long, ignore telltale OCD signs.
476[02:50:05] <Krasney> STAR WARS EWOX JEDI X-WING GREEDOO DEATH STARS ANAKIN VADER JABBA HUT LIGHTSABERS VULCANZ HAN SOLO AT-ATs PADAWAN YODA ITS A TRAP CP30 CHEWIE
480[02:50:14] <Anma> I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it.
482[02:50:15] <Krasney> jesus I spent the formative years of my childhood masturbating to a shemale sprite
483[02:50:17] <Untermeyer> Yes I too fell victim to internet cruelty. Only in my case it was IRC abuse. To make a long story short I was willing to do anything to get +V and some 'people' took advantage of that.
484[02:50:18] <Fido> of us, so just quit it. Any one who agrees with me post the number "1" in this thread.
485[02:50:22] <Rocha> You know how sometimes when you poop, it's a blue color? Well, I had one of those poops on Friday because I had been eating artificially colored animal crackers. After pinching a couple out, I thought it would be funny to trick my girlfriend. I placed them on the coffee table and told her they were novelty candies. Before I could tell her I was just joking, she took a bite! Well, after a long weekend in the hospital, my girlfriend died of spinal meningitis.
486[02:50:24] <Anma> I'm selling a wireless Dreamcast Modchip, you dont even need to open it up! you put it just to the right of your console (where the fan is) and it will work. I have 10 on stock, 5$ each, or 10 for 45$ , msg me if you are intressted
487[02:50:25] <Krasney> Did You Know: As late as 1987, instruction booklets included in the classic Parker Bros. board game "Monopoly" contained directions for appointing one player as "The Jew"? It was not until the early 90s that references to "The Jew" were replaced by "The Banker" in all game packaging and accompanying material.
488[02:50:27] <Untermeyer> Fuck my ass 'till my ass is filled. Thrust that cock up to the hilt. Ours is the house that Shepard built; all cocks hard and none shall wilt! Splatter your jizz all over my face. Rub it on in like grade school paste. To my ass your cock has laid waste; Mom still thinks that I am chaste ;)
489[02:50:28] <Fido> I always told myself I would try anything once but this was a total failure. Was smoking some killer hash in denmark and met this american african woman named shawna. She seemed to be educated and we hit it off. One thing led to another and then She gave me a BJ which was really good and when I went down on her I vomited. I lied and told her I had a cold with post nasal drip. I have sores in my mouth. After wiping the vomit off of he
491[02:50:32] <Rocha> Did you Europeans quit when you were behind in your butchering Jews like unwanted fetuses? Don't bother booting up En Carta, genius, the answer is no. My yarmulke wearing Sergeant Grandpa had to fly his jet over there and knock the gas chamber remote out of your assy smelling fingers himself. And while he was at it I think he popped a WWII era cap right in your sunken euro-chest. I'll never forget the stories he told me about how he and his buddies and a bunch o
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496[02:50:34] <Anma> The strangest blow job I ever experienced was when I went to visit Shaq and friends in the locker room when he was still playing for LA. They held me down while Kobe held my mouth open and Shaq rammed his elephant trunk man hammer into my mouth. I immediately started gagging and throwing up but the meat missle was so big it held the barf back and it went into my stomach instead. Then they took me into the shower and proceeded to turn me into the team pin cushi
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501[02:50:44] <Thavaneswaran> one time i was in my friends bathroom taking a shit and i was reading a maxim magazine that was by the toilet and saw some semi nude shots of some model (i dont even remember who) and i had the sudden urge to masturbate. i continued to do so and cleaned up and went out as if nothing happened. it was exhilarating and i wanted to do it again. so i did. several times. i even asked to use his shower so i could secretly masturbate in there. i like doing
503[02:50:54] <Thavaneswaran> Y0 what kind of crimes u into? im all about a plan to kidnap a person / rape them / torture them / kill them / cutting off da head / drain da body of blood / rape da corpse / eat da corpse / dispose of da organs and bones / finish ff7
526[03:02:59] <_b52> Hi, I have totally broken my system and might need to reinstall. Is there a way to preserve /home if it's in the same partition as the other directories? I can't recall how I did the partitioning
528[03:05:11] <Oksana> International Space Station: The operating system used for key station functions is the Debian Linux distribution. The migration from Microsoft Windows was made in May 2013 for reasons of reliability, stability and flexibility.
529[03:05:22] <rant> _b52: well there are some options.. back it up to another media, don't reformat/repartition when you reinstall (could possibly cause issues)
530[03:06:05] <somiaj> _b52: you could delete everything except /home before your install intead of formatting the partition.
531[03:06:17] <rant> Oksana: could you not do that here. We been being spammed and there are people here trying to get help. Thats more a #debian-offtopic thing
534[03:07:08] <rant> yes however deleting everything is tricky especially if you dont boot from another media.. I've installed right over an install before but if you dont install the exact same stuff you could wind up with cruft
535[03:07:20] <_b52> rant: somiaj OK thanks. Not sure exactly what happened, I did a dist upgrade which partially finished and then apt reported errors. Then after rebooting it would not boot, many errors. Even /bin/sh did not exist. So something went very wrong
536[03:07:27] <somiaj> I was just thinking of doing that from the shell in side the installer
537[03:07:57] <somiaj> though yea, any thing I would suggest doing form some live system.
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575[03:21:18] <Solon> If your daughter listens to hip hop music, you should caution her against taking MDMA, commonly known as ecstasy if she plans to go to hip hop concerts or hip hop clubs. As everyone knows, when you add E to rap, you get RAPE.
577[03:21:25] <wdalyijn> It's a shame the gooks beat you good in Vietnam. (though you probably won the unofficial underage girl rape contest)You fucking rambo wankers
578[03:21:31] <Solon> No more group sex in the Jacuzzi, got it? You all kept me up until 4am, and all the chlorine in the world wouldn't get rid of the shit that I found swimming in this thing 20 minutes ago.
579[03:21:51] <Caratozzolo> Some advice to you gentoo users out there: Why don't you emerge yourself from that closet already you damn homo.
580[03:21:54] <wdalyijn> You present a real and true perspective. A perspective of one who spends all his time surfing conspiracy websites and schizophrenic web forum postings, disregarding anything that conflicts with a predetermined conspiracist conclusion.
581[03:21:54] <Solon> you must be real smarte to be albe to make a space robot, my parents have a dvd player thing, can you turn that into a robot, it has a lasre in it
582[03:22:00] <Caratozzolo> i just took a shit and my toilet didn't really flush, i got pretty frustrated and now im going to masturbate to internet porn galleries. Good day to you.
583[03:22:09] <wdalyijn> While the argument does not really say much being on a PG-rated television program, Data never reveals his genital region on screen. This makes confirmation fo genitals by direct examination impossible.
585[03:22:16] <Solon> Typing laughter on IRC!While I understand that your knowledge of the world outside the Frances-strewn shards that, on any other day, would have comprised your double-wide is rather, shall we say, limited; Here in the big scary city we "America Haters" like to call civilization, there are rules that govern behavior and, to put a finer point on it, internet humor. And, although one could argue that, having missed out on the more elegant points in life such as col
586[03:22:20] <wdalyijn> I love to satisfy women in which ever way they choose. I love to please you and make you scream and moan until you cant take it no more and grab my head pushing it between your legs making my tongue go deeper and deeper until it reaches that spot! And then squeezing my head between your thighs! I keep going until you are so wet that your sweet juices are drippin and running down your thighs and on my lips and all over m
587[03:22:24] <Caratozzolo> i brush my teeth standing up. i also like to pee or shit standing up while doing so. sometimes i spit backwash on my penis and let it dry. it looks like that one time i slept over my uncle's house. oh btw i live in the freshman dorms. room 310. stop by and see me sometime.
588[03:22:31] <wdalyijn> I hope I never have to hear any of these cosplay slangs ever at a convention. Anime Iowa is a place to have fun and to enjoy being surrounded by fellow fans. Not a place to treat other fans in a superior fashion. *Most of us experienced or are experiencing this in highschool*
589[03:22:34] <Caratozzolo> If your daughter listens to hip hop music, you should caution her against taking MDMA, commonly known as ecstasy if she plans to go to hip hop concerts or hip hop clubs. As everyone knows, when you add E to rap, you get RAPE.
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594[03:22:44] <Solon> of us, so just quit it. Any one who agrees with me post the number "1" in this thread.
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597[03:23:01] <dudutz_niech> homosexual. But 100
598[03:23:21] <dudutz_niech> I wish that i was Vegeta from dragonball z. Once while stoned i tried to do a kamehameha and im sure my hands got hot. Im planning on picking a fight and while the adrenaline is flowing, im going to turn super saiyan and punish my opposition. Goku is stronger but Vegeta is cooler, im 38 with two kids.... my kids are weaklings, my wife left me and i like the way womans shoes make my calves look.
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602[03:23:48] <Chien> I'm not really gay, I just act that way to annoy/creep out people.
603[03:23:56] <PlayMate> I have looked at much gay porno and gotten no erections or arousal. I find it amusing. Gay culture on a whole I find grand, gays are often snobbish and excellent physical specimens which I find very admirable.
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614[03:27:50] <oct2pus> Hey I had a question, i was considering using the backported version of mate on debian stretch, but when i went to (dist)-upgrade it also wanted to install apparmor, where would be the best place to find out why it wants to install apparmor as well?
628[03:34:44] <juniorTechnician> hello guys, I've been assigned to change the IP address of a hostname at work, so I went into /etc/hosts and didn't see that specific hostname (I saw others), is there any other file where you can set up hosts in debian? doing "ping hostname" works so the host must be stored somewhere
629[03:34:44] <rant> and its only a suggested package
685[03:49:55] <juniorTechnician> hello guys, I've been assigned to change the IP address of a hostname at work, so I went into /etc/hosts and didn't see that specific hostname (I saw others), is there any other file where you can set up hosts in debian? doing "ping hostname" works so the host must be stored somewhere.. where?
686[03:49:59] <teatime> grungy: you'd need -l at least too, you want *listening* not open sockets.
702[03:51:09] <Bullard> hey everyone remember that one time when klerck shot himself directly in the face with a shotgun and killed himself and we all were like "whoa" and he was like "drip drip"... that shit was awesome
703[03:51:12] <Siesto> Adolf Hitler, the Fuhrer himself, burst into my room one eve and whisked me away on a dream vacation to the Bahamas! We toured the isles together arm-in-arm, and made love on the sandy beaches and in the clear, blue ocean. I fell in love with Hitler that weekend. Unfortunately when it was over, he disappeared, but I know that one day, mein Liebe will return and take me away to his castle in the clouds.
704[03:51:15] <Kaboolian> I like to put excessively large ammounts of Vaseline on my cock and fuck empty toilet paper rolls. I think my parents are starting to notice that we're running out of Vaseline every 4 days or so.
705[03:51:26] <Lesser> All this "linux dependabilty uptime unix lol" bullshit is just that, a crock of shit. How fucking hard is it to hit a goddamn reset button, you fat fucking sysadmins? I realize your just about to hit level 87 in everquest and you're already sweating from reaching for that jolt cola but for the love of god PLEASE stop using these stupid, unusable operating systems!
706[03:51:29] <krytarik> !ops
707[03:51:29] <dpkg> Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel.
708[03:51:30] <Kaboolian> you must be real smarte to be albe to make a space robot, my parents have a dvd player thing, can you turn that into a robot, it has a lasre in it
709[03:51:32] <Po> Basically my question to you is based on everything you've seen concerning the character of Bardock and Goku, what would happen if Goku had an actual meeting with his father? What words would they exchange? What would cause such a meeting, etc? It can be any continuity you choose. Now that you know what to write about, be creative and come up with what in your view would happen if father and son were to meet.
710[03:51:36] <Siesto> At first, the idea sounded unthinkable. Use my hand to wipe my ass? Disgusting! But after 10 minutes of waiting, I decided that it was my only option. I slowly lowered my right hand under my butt and scooped all the fecal matter from my bottom. Not only did it feel gross, but now I had a whole new set of problems. One simply does not walk out of a bathroom stall in a public restroom with one hand covered in shit. I sat there
711[03:51:37] <Bullard> Your "guess" is completely wrong. Just because animals can't talk doesn't mean they can't give consent. Animals have teeth, claws and can give audible warnings (growling, hissing, etc.) to voice their opposition to a sex act being performed on them. Also, many animals are quite intelligent and have a much faster neurodevelopmental rate than humans, reaching mental adulthood at extremely young ages by human standards. Finally, many animals are fully grown
712[03:51:44] <Po> Would you leave an otherwise perfect relationship if you found out your partner was interested in children sexually?
713[03:51:46] <Lesser> that is the nerdiest thing i have ever seen aside from my girlfriend and i wearing matching firefox tshirts
714[03:51:47] <Bullard> I like to show off that I freeball. I love to have my pants just so so I show major butt crack also when I am at a urinal at a rest stop or sport event I unzip and unbutton my shorts so that when I am pissing the shorts drop down and everyone can see my bare ass! I love the feeling of guys knowing i freeball. what do you guys do to show off?
715[03:51:51] <Kaboolian> girl you must be an internet forum because i am about to try and impress you using my stale in jokes from 1998
716[03:52:01] <Kaboolian> THERE IS NO JUSTIFICAITON FOR ATTACKING SOMEONE. NOT EVEN IF YOU'RE USING A COMPUTER TO DO IT. BECAUSE YOU'RE STLL HUMAN, AND THE PERSON YOU'RE ATTACKING IS STILL HUMAN, AND YOU BOTH STILL HAVE MINDS AND FEELINGS.
717[03:52:02] <Bullard> there are 2 bits in bathroom binary. a number 1 (01) is taking a piss. a number 2 (10) is taking a poop. a number 3 (11) is a shitpiss where you poop and pee at the same time.
718[03:52:05] <Siesto> Hey guys, did you ever consider what would happen if Star Trek perchance waged war with Star Wars? Who do you think might win such a conflict and why?
719[03:52:09] <Lesser> If Jesus was Jewish, then why did he have a Puerto Rican name? You Stupid Faggots.
720[03:52:11] <Po> Linux is an OS where files have no association to programs; all configuration and settings are stored "wherever" in text files that grow to be megabytes long; most shell commands are so abstractly named that you would never be able to use them without knowing how they work.. or first reading its "manual page".Linux is an operating system of inconsistancy. Theres over a thousand distributions of linux, and over a billion different modified versions of it. Programs co
721[03:52:15] <Bullard> The way I look at it, you atheists are basically like this: "Look at me, world...I can debunk your faith in God and leave you applauding my perception and intelligence to bring forth the truth." Sorry, I've already forgotten your name, but the name of God will stand forever.
724[03:52:23] <Kaboolian> YEAH RIGHT SO I STRAIGHT STABBED SOME PROSTITUTE WITH A FORK. IT AINT NOTHIN THOUGH NAWMEAN. BITCH ASS JUDGE HIT ME WITH 3 YEARS OF PROBATION AND 80 HOURS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE. 80 HOURS? NIGGA I BENCHPRESS 80 HOURS. NIGGAS THINK I AINT GONNA WILD OUT AND FORK SOMEONE ELSE CUZ I'M ON PAROLE SO I'M JUST LAUGHIN YO. I LAUGH AT THESE ACTORS. FUCKIN P.O THINKING I AINT GON COME IN HIGH AS SHIT OFF THE TREES JUST BECAUSE I GOT PEE IN A CUP. I DO THAT AND THRO
725[03:52:25] <Siesto> You wouldn't think it to look at me, but I am a serious badass and I will mess you up if you so much as look at me funny. A lot of people were executed last year in this state for that deadliest of crimes: Fucking with me. So step back off of my IRC channel if you know what's good for you, BITCH.
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727[03:52:25] <Po> im gonna lift you with a forklift so high you'll beg to come down
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729[03:52:34] <Lesser> Your are thr reason this world going to hell your fucking piece of shit ...i hope you get strike down by lighting in the middle of the field and then wolfs eat your smodlering carcus you fucking physco path!!
730[03:52:35] <Wani> You know how sometimes when you poop, it's a blue color? Well, I had one of those poops on Friday because I had been eating artificially colored animal crackers. After pinching a couple out, I thought it would be funny to trick my girlfriend. I placed them on the coffee table and told her they were novelty candies. Before I could tell her I was just joking, she took a bite! Well, after a long weekend in the hospital, my girlfriend died of spinal meningitis
731[03:52:36] <Bullard> The lowest requirements for Doom 3 are a Pentium 4 1.6 Ghz, and as we all know the fastest pentiumIII is faster than the slowest pentium 4, so I think I'm fine. If not, I'll just wait for the Linux binary to come out so that I can run it on my ultra fast compiled-from-scratch Gentoo box. No M$ slow downs for me!
732[03:52:39] <Kaboolian> A computer scientist? what are your credentials as a scientist? How have you furthered scientific knowledge? I am a scientist. PhD in space science, as a matter of fact. A veritable rocket scientist. I have also developed software for the last 25 years. I have headed software projects and delivered software to some important customers, including the DoD. So forgive me if I take exception to some programmer hack calling himself a scientist.
733[03:52:46] <Wani> I am the world's foremost expert on sticking people's treasured items into my urethra. I have 'gauged' it to the point where I can almost wedge a piece of celery in there, though no one treasures celery. If anyone can beat this, I'd like to suck their dick!
734[03:52:51] <Lesser> I cut myself because I find it an artform, just like tattoo's, but I LIKE cutting a beautiful drawing into myself, as I did it and I drew it. But I did cut along time ago so, that might be it. Anyway, I only cut when it fades and needs touching up, but it sure feels good!
735[03:52:51] <Kaboolian> I get off on sticking my dick into house hold appliances. one day i put it in a blender, i was really drunk. When i woke up in the hospital my forskin was gone and they had to put in 50+ stiches. Needless to say, i enjoyed it thoroughly.
736[03:52:54] <Bullard> SCIENCE TRIVIA: Did you know that the more members an instrumental rock band has, the worse they are? Studies have shown that the optimal number is zero
737[03:53:05] <Lesser> picture yourself at college. she's the foreign exchange student from ... not china, the other one. in any case her english is poor and she laughs at even your shittiest jokes without understanding. you know she likes you. the only guys after her are skinny adenoidal fags that she gets enough of back home. she laughs at their jokes too, but it's not them she sits by in class, you come to associate that class with the smell of her.
739[03:53:11] <Wani> girl you must be an o'reilly technical manual because despite your high price tag, you never say anything meaningful
740[03:53:18] <Kaboolian> Touching, long handshakes, grasped buttocks, even walking hand in pocket by two males is common place in the Arab world. A considerable number of Arabs touch more between the same sex, to show liking--not sex. They hold hands at urinals, hug each other, kiss if close friends, sometimes with tongue. This is a pivotal part of Arab society that few westerners understand!
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774[04:09:36] <Parmeggiani> Flopping and flailing, tugging and yanking, rolling my micro-burrito between my thumb and forefinger, I desperately Google "Hairy Asian Pussy"... "Big Black Tits"... "Shaved Mature Naked"... but am unable to focus on any single image long enough to construct a suitable fantasy. I click rapidly from one photo to the next, accidentally smearing vitamin E oil on the keyboard and mouse, all through the night until morning's cruel r
776[04:09:38] <Trenga> She smiled as she felt her finger become drenched in her mother's hot cunt juice. She was surprised. She reached into her bathrobe and pulled out Karen's panties. If her mother had not been snoring so loudly, Karen would have worried that she was in an alcohol induced coma. Karen pissed for a long time, completely drenching her mother and the bed in warm piss.
777[04:09:40] <E-rix> Is it not weirder to drink cow's milk which is truly intended for baby cows? The answer: Hell no! The only thing weirder than me drinking breast milk, is the fact that milk is coming out of my wife's chest in the first place. It sure as hell didn't do that when I met her. I'm telling you, the whole thing is lunacy. I love my wife, but does she really have to be such a mammal?
781[04:09:58] <E-rix> Why cant the indians be like the blacks, coming to america in white-owned ships to do our work because we're too lazy to do it. Those cheap ass indians hoofed it across some hippy nature bridge
784[04:10:00] <Parmeggiani> The worst terrorist attack in recorded history occurred just a two and a half years ago, followed by a Holy War against Islam, and now Israel and the Palestinians as well as India and Pakistan are teetering on the brink of their own war, Argentina is in the midst of a financial crisis, America is considering launching attacks against North Korea and Syria, and you people have the gall to be discussing video games???? My *god*, p
785[04:10:01] <Trenga> Pudge Picnic : chubs on chubs with flab to spare. "No condoms!" yelled, but we don't care! Dude's be fucken, dudes be fucked, dudes be shittin, dudes be sucked. Writhing on the concrete floor, these chubs are sluts. They're obese whores! And gross! They've never taken baths. Too much chili! Awful gas!!!
786[04:10:02] <WarCraft> Aren't you a bit fucking fat to ride a horse? what gives you the guts to call yourself a cowboy? you probably haven't been outside in so long you probably don't even know what a horse even looks like. cowboy my ASS. you fucking poseur. you are just a nerd. go back to your computers and slashdot. a horse could whop your ass any day.
789[04:10:10] <E-rix> Now go back to what you do best, which is apparently poking your nose into others business because you're too bored with your own life. *pets joo*
790[04:10:11] <NucklearDetector> For the record, If a guy wants to rape you by combining something with Roofies, He's going to use something much more efficent than horse tranquiler or whatever you think us frat boys are using these days, a good rapist is going to use something along the lines of a brick. A simple slab of concrete is actually the most dangerous killer in the sex crime kingdom, one shot to the face with a brick and you will be ugly for life, and those effects ARE
791[04:10:11] <Trenga> It was a nice day today so I went for a walk outside. As I was walking, I heard somebody crying out in pain so I went to investigate, when I turned the corner I saw a kid that had fallen off his bike and he was grabbing his leg and crying. There was this guy already there and he told me that he was a doctor and he thought this kid had a broken leg. I could tell this guy was lying because he didn't have any white coat, I don't like liars
792[04:10:11] <Locatelli> it's time for lunch. you'd like to chow. Fraid I've got some bad news right now. The fridge a box of empty space, no sign of eats, not e'en a trace, oh how you'd like a tiny taste, your stomach hurts, you find some Certs, they're gobbled, gone, but breath is fresh, you're nearing death, you're flailing on the kitchen floor, no more! just make the hunger leave, your stomach grieves a SNACK you NEED you've GOT TO FEED YOUR CHEETOS A
793[04:10:16] <krytarik> !ops spam again..
794[04:10:16] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: krytarik complains about a problem (see above)
795[04:10:16] <Parris> TIP FOR IRCERS #51: Bathe often, as personal odors are offensive to others
796[04:10:16] <Parmeggiani> So, I was at work yesterday, and I happened to walk by this guy's desk. I noticed on his computer screen that he had his personal E-mails pulled up. I asked him who he thought he was to do this on company time, and then, he told me that his daughter was sick at home, so he was checking up on her. I then punched his computer screen out, and Look him straight in the eye and said, " Who do you think I am? Jerry Lewis? I dont want t
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800[04:10:18] <Prothrow-Stith> Are you wealthy? I'm just curious if this influences your thinking. Is your household income above the median of $51,000/year, or closer to the 90th percentile of household income of just under $125,000/year?
801[04:10:19] <Safire> I heard this story from an M.D. in Japan. It was during WWII. A bunch of Japanese soldiers had rounded up 3 or 4 Korean women. They proceeded to fuck them in every orifice, but there weren't really enough to go around. So one of the soldiers bayonets one of the girls in the stomach so that he can have a place to fuck too. The feeling was so great that the others all start taking turns in her stomach too.
802[04:10:27] <E-rix> I have problem with my sister husband. He started about a while back to bring his friend over when he visit to start acting funny with me. Because he is my sister husband I felt I could not refuse it and now it has turn to sexual acts of an improper nature. Although intercourse had never occurred he has shot his sperm on my face, placed objects in my anus and made to drink his urine. How do I stop before things go farther. Thanks.
803[04:10:28] <Prothrow-Stith> Jeff's balls are about 3 inches in diameter. They are green and hairy. When in public, Jeff will often expose his balls as a way of calming a crowd. Often in a fit of anger Jeff will whip one of his balls at someone who is misbehaving. Most people prefer not to come in contact with Jeff's balls.
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805[04:10:35] <NucklearDetector> whistle core is actually popular in japan it caught quite well and know where seeing various new whistle core bands come out of the country like the blue mist dogs, fire in the attic, lazor beem, robo boy vs the laviathan and various others its just a matter of time till they hit the charts here
806[04:10:35] <Locatelli> When you see porn and your dick gets hard, try to touch your dick head with your lips. I have licked many times my cockhead in this way.
807[04:10:37] <Etter> The nigger is a subhuman monkey, ape, Fat lips, kinky hair, VIOLENT, RAPIST, SMALL BRAIN (have you noticed how dumm most niggers are)and broad monstrous noses, car jacking saucer-lipped, ignorant fecal colored, ghetto-living, welfare-leeching, crack-smoking, hub-cap stealing. fried-chicken and biscuit eating, watermelon-stealing, 6-yr-old-white-girl-shooting, serial-killing, rapist, robber, murderer, adulterer, liar, fat-assed, white-woman-wanting, loud-radio-a
808[04:10:39] <Trenga> How could Sony betray me like this?!? I waited in line for three months--yes, I started the very first line for the PS3 way before anyone else. I endured the elements, the snide comments, and unemployment (I was fired from my job after the first week) because I wanted to be the very first person to play what I imagined would be the salvation to all my dearest dreams. Rumor had it that playing a videogame on the PS3 would be like injectin
809[04:10:46] <Etter> DonÂ’t let anybody ever tell you that Japan is just another foreign country. It is much more than that. My story begins in the summer of 1983. I was an expert negotiator, and that was what brought me to an exclusive resort outside of Tokyo. Two large Japanese electronics companies were attempting a merger of some sorts. After two fruitless days of negotiations, I figured out a way to make everybody happy. I made some phone calls, and pretty soon all the exec
810[04:10:46] <Safire> Hey, faggot! Those assless leather chaps are pissing me off. How can you possibly walk around in public without anything covering your erect cock, and clean shaven balls. I cant believe anyone does this for real! You should find some sort of underwear before I come over and put my hands on your genitalia, to provide some modesty! I will happily stroke your penis so it can be tucked away inside the chaps if you insist, but I'd rather you
811[04:10:47] <E-rix> Hello. I am interested in various things, which include: Finding out your real life info(s), prank calling you every day, stealing your IRC nickname(s), and finding flaws in your website (i.e. loading popups, etc).
813[04:10:51] <Locatelli> Dr. Huxtable broke into the clinic and held me at gunpoint. I was his patient, in for my yearly pap smear. I couldn't believe it when he came in the door for the exam with a machete in his hands. He demanded that I take off my clothes, and begin to fellate him. He waved the machete around like a madman, so i complied. I was forced, at knife point, to take his entire penis into my mouth. Then I rubbed my clit and got off ohh yeah
814[04:10:58] <Etter> girl, you must be an HTTP status code because all i'm getting is: 402 Payment Required
815[04:11:00] <NucklearDetector> Now go back to what you do best, which is apparently poking your nose into others business because you're too bored with your own life. *pets joo*
816[04:11:04] <Locatelli> (Â¯Â¯Â¯Â¯Â¯Â¯Â¯Â¯Â¯) (Â¯Â¯Â¯Â¯Â¯Â¯Â¯Â¯Â¯) FOUR HOTDOGS (Â¯Â¯Â¯Â¯Â¯Â¯Â¯Â¯Â¯) (Â¯Â¯Â¯Â¯Â¯Â¯Â¯Â¯Â¯)
817[04:11:04] <Safire> is it gay that sometimes when i take a shit i get goosebumps all over my body?
818[04:11:04] <Trenga> Michael Jackson touched my junk liberally. he slept with me in bed and he couldnt keep his offensive hands off of me. he was performing many red flag touches. i couldnt believe what the fuck was going on. i told michael the city would not approve of the King of Pop touching an underage kid in bed
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820[04:11:04] <E-rix> You're really a failure at life, you're 290 pounds, you've got horrible back hair, you sweat profusely, staining all your white clothes yellow, and you've killed 3 dogs by anal impaction.
825[04:11:19] <Etter> I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it.
826[04:11:23] <NucklearDetector> Fuck all authority figures of any type. Now instead of hearing the song and letting it pass by you I think we should all rise against and do somin about authority..... and they can feel the rage of OUR generation!!!!!!!!!!!!!
827[04:11:33] <NucklearDetector> hi my names jimmy and im 13 and the other day i was playing with myself while watching showcase and i realised i couldnt quite reach my fireman with my mouth. so what i did was i took a small straw and shoved it down my urethra. and i started to blow really hard.. now i have a small bubble like figure on the side of my fireman.. could this be from blowing into the straw???
828[04:11:40] <Etter> This has got to be the worst 'holiday' ever conceived. First, my friends started by playing a mean prank on me, and then even my family got in on the act. They took me out back into the woods, tied me to a tree, and paid a drunken hillbilly to rape me! First he lubed up my asshole with his spit, and then he proceeded to violently penetrate my ass. The stench exuding from his unwashed mountain-man body was overwhelming, and only served to make me sicker than I a
832[04:11:55] <Etter> Nigger? So you think you are superior not only because you're white! it's because you read! ha! I didn't know they were people like you in this website, and I hope you learn more about our people, because I'm very ofended now. Racism is illegal, you know? if they were enough technologies to know who is behind that "anonymus", no doubt you would be behind bars now! Please respect others, even if they don't like reading like you do.
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835[04:12:15] <Satterthwaite> When my parents were tight on cash, I attempted to save money on our water bill by pissing in the sink, and shitting on paper plates and dumping them in the field behind our house.
836[04:12:18] <Kuenzli> I enjoy black butts, butts in my face, butts which haven't been wiped, black dongs in my rectum, big sweaty black balls in my mouth, thick black dongs slapped across my face. I enjoy pressing my face into asses and sniffing them. I can take 2 cocks in my asshole and 3 in my mouth. I lick cocks and butts. I shake my ass in front of people's face before they fuck it hard. I wear a cock ring and enjoy letting people chain me up and piss on me.
839[04:12:35] <Satterthwaite> TO ALL THE BITCHEY 12 YEAR OLD SLIPCOCK FANS..PLEASE SHUT UP BEFORE YOU HURT YOUR SELVES CRYING BLACK EYE SHADOW TEARS OF RAGE OVER MY COMMENTS..OBVIOUSLY YOU NO IM CORRECT OTHERWSIE WHY WOULD YOU SHIT THAT MANY TIMES IN YOUR PANTS OVER MY LONLEY COMMETNS!!YOU FUCK HEADS SHOULD SHUT UP ,QUIT SCHOOL(if you havent allready cause the kids dont ''get'' your wigger,crack smoking nigger/jew fucking, garbage smelling italin ass) AND GET A JOB AT THE CARWA
840[04:12:38] <tw> !ops
841[04:12:38] <dpkg> Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel.
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843[04:12:42] <Pederson> I pray to the wonderful Lord Jesus Our Saviour and thank Lord God in the Highest Heaven for all the beauty and love in the world every time I fuck a nun with a glass-covered bone-carved dildo. Tear that dry and wrinkled punani!
844[04:12:46] <Kuenzli> Your argument is not very compelling. Everyone knows I'm not here to "get down", I'm here specifically to crush you in debate and I'm not going to spend much time here either as I am quickly dulled by this sort of thing.
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847[04:12:55] <rant> !ops spam
848[04:12:55] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: rant complains about a problem (see above)
855[04:14:21] <didi_petet> Go back to jacking off to your anime girls. Leave the real women to real men.
856[04:14:25] <Po> Me and one of my friends went out today for some dinner so we stopped at a pretty nice restaurant. I don't smoke and most of the time I sit in the non smoking section but I didn't feel like walking to the back of the restaurant today so me and my friend sat at the first table we came to in the smoking section. Since most ppl should be aware that I don't smoke I didn't think I would have any problems. I was wrong. This jerk lit up a ci
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858[04:14:31] <Belloc> When my parents were tight on cash, I attempted to save money on our water bill by pissing in the sink, and shitting on paper plates and dumping them in the field behind our house.
859[04:14:31] <Theodos> guns work like this - u buy the deagle at the spawn point and u get the headshot
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1013[04:31:43] <Guest67771> did you guys hear on the news? usually i don't watch the news, i just heard my friend's brother freaking out about it. it's on right now. North Korea shot a three missiles at Japan, but MISSED!! XD what would happen if they didn't miss?? one of them was aimed for America, too. It's on Fox News right now. THey're talking about shooting back at Korea. STUPID KOREA! dude, manhwa vs manga. XD awesome.what if they actually didn't miss?? what would happen to ever
1014[04:31:54] <Guest67771> Fact: The word "mizer", traditionally meaning a one who is excessively frugal, was originally short for "sodomizer". This is because in the 18th century it was routine, and even expected, that the Comptroller of a business would punish wastefulness by engaging in mandatory buggery.
1015[04:31:59] <Demusz> I see what you are trying to do and I advise you to stop at once. You may think your Mr. Slick and that you have some kind of advantage over me in this situation but you couldn't be further from the truth. Just because you got a higher score on the SAT does not mean that you are intellectually superior to me. I have 3 degrees in physics and biomedical engineering and I just canÂ’t believe that you try and pull something like this o
1017[04:32:04] <Ybarra> girl u must be aol instant messenger because i'd like to see all of my buddies on you
1018[04:32:17] <Ybarra> I bet you think you're actually amusing. You were giggling to yourself as you typed that line out, and are eagerly staring at your screen hoping that someone will give you a zany quip in reply. Go on, you can laugh. It's okay. Just remember that you're the only one who thought that comment was in any way entertaining.
1019[04:32:19] <Metropolis> Making headlines across America is the Terri Shiavo case. This poor woman is in a persistent vegetative state and the husband selfishly wishes for her feeding tube to be left removed. This is appalling, not to just me, but to the many Americans that feel she should be allowed to live. replaced-url
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1021[04:32:22] <Guest67771> <3 BUSH, ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERZ, NEW WORLD ORDER, MITE MAKEZ RITE, THE SWORD CHOPZ OFF THE ARM HOLDING THE PEN, MANIFEZT DESTINY, REPREZENTIN' DA ZOG CLIQUE, MACHIVELLIAN, DIDN'T NEED 2 SERVE IN VIETNAM TO BOMB DA KORAN, BANG BANG, IRAQ THE NEW SOVIET BLOC, GUN-BARREL DIPLOMACY, VOTE NADER VOTE NADER VOTE NADER
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1023[04:32:24] <Demusz> "Star Wars" was the highlight of my abusive childhoo. My father brutally belted me frequently, and the rest of the family, a term which I use very loosely, just hid what he did to me.
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1026[04:32:35] * teatime leaves because spam, sorry guys
1028[04:32:53] <marioxcc> teatime: Yes, I know that. You did not really answer my question. Apparently I will have to read the source code as the actual meaning of the boot parameters is effectively undocumented.
1029[04:32:58] <PlasmaStar> Is Unit193 a robot? :(
1076[04:50:51] <Julious> Actually, it is incorrect to call me a 'know-it-all' because God is the only one that knows everything.
1077[04:50:57] <Dhiafah> Fly catching is a hobby of mine. Whenever I successfully catch a fly, I go into the bathroom and I fill the bathtub up with warm water till it's deep enough that only the head of my penis sticks out of the water. Next, I rip the wings off of the fly and place the fly upon the tip of my Cock--the penis "head". Not having anywhere to go, the cute lil fly runs around upon the tip of my Cock, creating a most arousing sensation.Try it yourself !!
1078[04:50:59] * Oksana applauds
1079[04:50:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o themill
1080[04:51:02] <Julious> You can spot a Nintendo 64 game from a mile away. If the textures look like they were photographed with a cell phone camera, copied to VHS tape, copied to another VHS tape, imported into the computer and saved as a low quality JPEG, and then the computer was chucked into a fire, you know you're playing a Nintendo 64 game.
1174[06:07:03] <jelly> apt-get purge packagename or dpkg -P packagename
1175[06:07:12] <jelly> !purge
1176[06:07:13] <dpkg> "purge" means to completely wipe away a package, including its configuration files. Use «aptitude purge $package» or «dpkg -P $package» (note: before wheezy, you can't 'apt-get purge' a package that is already removed; use aptitude or dpkg instead). To purge all "removed" packages: «aptitude purge '~c'». To restore configuration files, ask me about <confmiss>. Also ask me about <why aptitude>.
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1190[06:12:54] <meta-coder> Hello, I have an idea!
1191[06:13:04] <Oksana> Hi
1192[06:14:03] <Oksana> meta-coder : what's the idea?
1193[06:14:44] <meta-coder> In package metadata we have Description, Homepage etc. We can add two more fields: Mailing-List and Mailing-List-Archive.
1194[06:15:32] <Oksana> ...Don't we already have something about bugtracker, in package metadata? Mailing list could be put here?
1195[06:16:47] <meta-coder> Many projects use mailing-lists. It would be convenient if I can get the mailing list and archive URLs by just doing apt-cache show <pkg>
1196[06:16:57] * Oksana thinks that it is possible to add more fields into package metadata without having to coordinate this with anybody else, just don't expect the fields to become popular or standard.
1197[06:17:43] <meta-coder> yes, not all packages have MLs, but many and all important ones do.
1198[06:17:57] <jelly> meta-coder, if Debian uses a mailing list to manage a package you'll usually find it under Maintainer
1199[06:18:24] <jelly> are you asking about upstream resources?
1224[06:29:40] <meta-coder> Many times lists and archives are hosted at very different domains than project homepages.
1225[06:30:02] <meta-coder> jelly: "polluting" is a very poor excuse.
1226[06:30:05] <jelly> many times upstream has a dozen different lists
1227[06:30:09] <DerLGm> meta-coder: why not a mailing list standalone archive utility
1228[06:30:44] <Oksana> meta-coder : I agree that writing emails [and letting them be in Outbox till Internet is reached] is more comfortable when emails are already available [without having to go to tracker.debian.org ]
1229[06:31:26] <jelly> Oksana, when was the last time you sent a mail to authors of some app
1230[06:31:43] <Oksana> But first, learn how to use tracker.debian.org [instead of Google]. Then, learn how to store tracker's data for offline usage. Afterwards, write an apt-addressbook plugin for that
1231[06:31:45] <jelly> this isn't 1993.
1232[06:31:53] <Oksana> jelly: Let me check...
1233[06:32:39] <meta-coder> jelly: we can decide which list to include. Whether the user-focused one or instead we can use link to the page which lists all lists.
1234[06:33:29] <Oksana> jelly : I sent an email on 14th of April 2017, granted I didn't get a reply
1235[06:34:24] <Oksana> I did get a reply to the email I sent on second of November 2016, though
1237[06:34:39] <meta-coder> Oksana: Including something in package metadata will also trivially be included in tracker.debian.org. And don't forget about tons of Debian derivatives. Including in package metadata will benefit all derivatives as well.
1238[06:34:45] <jelly> so... one successful message per year
1247[06:37:32] <themill> We should be putting less information in the Packages file not more. Stale information in there is already a serious problem
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1249[06:37:41] <jelly> meta-coder, I still think said metadata is already full of barely useful info and lots of it might be better kept on the side, instead of debian/control and everywhere it gets replicated
1250[06:38:29] <Oksana> meta-coder : While I would love to know full name, postal address, birthday, email, and such of each developer of every package I have installed, I have to say that such information belongs in addressbook. Similarly, mailing list, and mailing list archive, while not private information of one
1275[06:50:31] <DerLGm> meta-coder: ^^^ something like that
1276[06:51:09] <DerLGm> And then it's up to the user to configure its Cron and other settings
1277[06:52:01] <jelly> meta-coder, upstream's mailing lists and archives won't magically change just because your build comes from a derivative, you can still look it up on tracker.d.o if you provide it there.
1326[07:11:27] <Unit193> Reeeally doesn't make too much sense to use the package manager offline, as one wouldn't be able to download the package in most cases (I am aware apt-offline exists, but of course wouldn't do much meta or screenshots.)
1364[07:26:32] <Shmam> also getting this message: File ‘Release.key’ already there; not retrieving. when doing: "wget -nc replaced-url
1365[07:26:53] <Shmam> should I delete the current Release.key that I have?
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1367[07:27:16] <jelly> you're not adding any _new_ repos with --add-architecture, just telling dpkg and apt to accept installation of a second architecture
1368[07:27:34] <jelly> !multiarch
1369[07:27:34] <dpkg> Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See replaced-url
1370[07:27:34] <Shmam> ok gotcha
1371[07:27:48] <Shmam> but what about the release.key thing?
1372[07:27:57] <Shmam> can I delete the one I currently have to get this new one?
1425[08:08:50] <dpkg> To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search --disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>.
1441[08:18:19] <dpkg> To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search --disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>.
1548[09:49:22] <valdez> alkisg: not really, no. look, the whole task is as follows: make a pxe-based mostly-automated install process for debian stretch on zfs root, with optional megacli (lsi megaraid too) wizardry for preparing disks as jbod
1549[09:49:47] <valdez> i want to netboot a livecd because it will be easier to install megacli there
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1562[09:57:17] <valdez> alkisg: preseeding helps with automation (answering). but i'm not savvy enough with debian install process to figure out how to bring zfs stuff from the official contrib repo there
1563[09:57:21] <valdez> any ideas?
1564[09:57:50] <alkisg> valdez: afaik preseeding has hook points for downloading and running your own scripts
1565[09:58:04] <alkisg> So from those scripts, you can do whatever you like, e.g. install new programs or configure file systems
1566[09:58:57] <alkisg> I'm not fluent with preseeding though so I can't give you the exact syntax etc; I'm mostly using ltsp for netbooted systems.
1567[09:59:08] <valdez> what mechanisms does it provide for that downloading/installing?
1568[09:59:35] <valdez> the netboot system has no dpkg or apt as far as i can tell, only this 'anna' castrate
1598[10:08:34] <l9> so here is a quick NFS question i have two shares that i want to export to xx:xx:xx::/64 on the freebsd host one of the shares always falls out when both are exported to the same network, how should one adress having multiple exports to the same network ?
1670[10:40:53] <l9> so anyone running debian nfs server here that wants to test something for me? :) create two dirs /tmp/test and /tmp/test1 and share them both with -network x.x.x/24 are you abel to share both ? I think i might have found a NFS bug but not certain if it is just a freebsd bug or a NFS
1730[11:27:19] <toolz> Hi, I got an iscsi lun and I am trying to create lvms on it, I have created pv and vg, but lvms : device-mapper: reload ioctl on failed: Invalid argument - dmesg: device-mapper: table: 253:0: linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed, device-mapper: ioctl: error adding target to table. Here is pvdisplay and vgdisplay (dmsetup shows no table) replaced-url
1866[13:19:56] <_raven__> do you know any way of connecting to another site with failsave timeouts which can last up to half an hour? i know it is not the meaning of vpn to catch up bad network connections but any workaround possible to keep up ssh/rsync sessions and such?
1867[13:20:50] <alkisg> The tcp timeout is 2h 11m... more than half an hour
1868[13:20:51] <shtrb> _raven__, are you asking how to increment the local timeout to prevent disconnects ?
1892[13:33:08] <_raven__> shtrb: i do not know the exact cause now but i get random disconnects between two dialup networks connecting via dyndns (yeah i know :/) and a net to net vpn. randomly it just is disconnected very long and all transferes of course crash
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1925[13:53:44] <tdn> What is the easiest way of converting a bunch of .flac audio files into .mp3 on Debian while keeping all the metadata tags such as artist, song name, etc. and keeping file names (e.g. filenames will be *.flac -> *.mp3) and without being prompted for anything?
1931[13:56:57] <tdn> BanHammor, I know how to write bash/zsh scripts. However, I am not very familiar with ffmpegs plethora of options. And I am hoping for an app to do this as handling errors, edge cases, etc. in shellscripts may prove difficult.
1932[13:57:49] <dTal> So I'm installing Debian on the second hard drive of a computer that already has windows installed on the first one. Is there a way to specify that I'd like GRUB to be installed to the *second* hard drive's MBR, not the first's?
1933[13:58:05] <dTal> I do not want to touch the Windows drive at all.
1962[14:14:25] <dTal> If it is not going to be installed, it should not ask me where to install it. If there is a choice as to where to install it, it should not ask me if I want to install to "the" master boot record.
2053[15:16:31] <BanHammor> hey, my debian install in Docker offered me to autoremove some packages. It failed, and now it tries autoremoving them again and again when i try to do anything else with apt-get.
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2055[15:16:44] <BanHammor> How do I tell it to stop trying?
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2063[15:19:35] <petn-randall> BanHammor: You probably have apt configured to autoremove packages? It should be somewhere in /etc/apt/. Alternatively, just mark the package(s) you want to keep with 'apt install <package>'.
2064[15:21:19] <BanHammor> petn-randall, i already did, and STILL it tries
2065[15:21:47] <petn-randall> !bat
2066[15:21:47] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
2095[15:41:42] <nirakara> according freedesktop.org, libinput leaves kinetic scrolling to the client because there was an unfixable bug which had to do with moving the cursor to another window while scroll events were still being sent
2096[15:42:25] <nirakara> but all this doesn't help me much with determining how to enable it on my stretch laptop
2193[16:47:50] <Bierjpg|X8> hey, is there a way to update & autodetect the Resolution for the Terminal without rebooting? just like it works at the startup?
2194[16:48:17] <urzds> Hi!
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2196[16:49:32] <petn-randall> Nawab: What kind of device is /dev/sdb?
2197[16:49:43] <Nawab> its a sdcard
2198[16:49:58] <petn-randall> Nawab: There's probably a write-protect switch on the side of it.
2199[16:50:00] <urzds> Does Debian have a document with instructions for recruiters? I.e. something describing the steps that the person recruiting someone to be a Debian Developer / Debian Maintainer has to take (create account in LDAP, add SSH key, ...)? Similar to this: replaced-url
2246[17:04:31] <gchristensen> Hi, I come from another Linux distribution and I'm curious about the technical committee and how it works in practice. has anyone here worked with the committee, or is on the committee, who would have some time to talk to me about it?
2391[17:41:29] <rant> you really should stop pasting into the channel before you get into trouble..
2392[17:41:39] <Nawab> :D
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2394[17:42:47] <rant> JyZyXEL: dirs like /opt /srv /usr/local and /home are not allowed to be modified by packages according to the debian policy.. this is likely as suggested something 3rd party if you dont know what it is, as these are not debian dirs it is probably safe to remove to get errors to disappear
2411[17:47:45] <impermanence> petn-randall: I want to compare a previously installed main dir for nginx to a fresh dummy nginx install/dir/whatever...cuz I don't know the product well and want to be able to essentially diff the installed vs. a fresh package grab
2412[17:48:01] <impermanence> this would be on debian of course :)
2443[18:00:53] <Epx998> rant: I just want the hosts file formatted in a certain way, ive seen some 'localhost' bugs when running hostname -f post install. Re-arranging the localhost line seems to fix it
2444[18:01:36] <rant> those files are usually overwritten by dhcp
2509[18:24:04] <rant> zomaar: I just skimmed the docs on that command and that config file.. bearing in mind as I said before I know nothing about this.. but that D you mention says that it's related to a --remove switch and from what I gather does nothing if you dont use that switch
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2517[18:26:40] <tw> DammitJim: If it's read-write, you probably want a SAN, if it's read-only, you can probably get away with replication. I've heard of doing HA with NFS using drbd, but I've not tried it myself.
2530[18:30:37] <rant> zomaar: the --clean options and --remove options are different.. your config is telling it to remove something and the command you are running is telling it not to.. therein seems to be the problem
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2541[18:35:40] <linuxthefish> is it possible to set that file to read only? chattr doesn't let me, it says "chattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device while reading flags"
2542[18:36:13] <linuxthefish> cinnamon always changes the brightness of the screen when the power is removed, but when I plug power back in it doesn't restore it to full
2543[18:36:20] <tw> DammitJim: you can use failover with a SAN endpoint for the access server. As long as you don't have two access hosts online at once, you shouldn't need to worry about locking problems. However, I think if you have an nfs server failure, you'll lose your locks. You'd have to verify that if it is an issue.
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2589[18:49:44] <shtrb> Can someone guide me with '[ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) Failed to load module "mouse" (module does not exist, 0)' when running optirun (copies /etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nouveau to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/nouveau.conf , xorg.conf is missing (letting X to identify by itself)
2590[18:49:46] <linuxthefish> greycat, yeah if I could somehow remove or disable the device
2664[19:08:36] <eck> and you're running php5 on that?
2665[19:08:46] <eck> doesn't that concern you a bit?
2666[19:08:55] <greycat> !sarge
2667[19:08:55] <dpkg> Sarge is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 3.1, released June 6th, 2005. Sarge security support ended on 2008-03-31, this release is no longer supported. Sarge users should upgrade to Etch, ask me about <sarge->etch>. Removed from the mirrors; ask me about <sarge sources.list>, <sarge-backports>. Get old sarge ISOs here: replaced-url
2669[19:09:31] <ricky_clarkson> Hi. I'm using a custom internal distribution based on Debian testing, did an in-place upgrade from the previous version that was based on Ubuntu LTS, and now my apple keyboard's left command key no longer brings up the menu in X, but the right one does.
2716[19:25:16] <shtrb> anyone about that have an idea about X can give me a hint ?
2717[19:25:20] <shtrb> Can someone guide me with '[ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) Failed to load module "mouse" (module does not exist, 0)' when running optirun (copies /etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nouveau to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/nouveau.conf , xorg.conf is missing (letting X to identify by itself)
2822[20:08:46] <kryl> I try to install grub.cfg with update-grub inside a chroot but it continue to use the /dev/vda1 from "host" settings and grub.cfg is filled with wrong UUID ... any idea on how to fix that ? I followed this method : replaced-url
2823[20:09:09] <rant> zomaar: yes well if you kept insisting on my help that'd be my recommendation to stop trying to understand all this fancy new stuff and do it the old fashioned way
2829[20:10:44] <rant> Sbef_BigBlue: first of all you mention in your question two different programs.. different programs can be using different output drivers and different configurations.. first thing to do is back up to square one and see if sound is in fact working at the lowest level
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2831[20:11:01] <zomaar> rant: The D flag does work with --remove, but the d flag does not work with --clean
2836[20:11:45] <Sbef_BigBlue> rant: what do you mean? square one?
2837[20:11:50] <rant> zomaar: yeah idk, I can't help you further with the systemd tmp file cleaning stuff I have no knowledge or experience of it beyond what that cursory glance of the docs suggested to me
2838[20:12:08] <zomaar> rant: Well thanks for looking
2839[20:12:21] <zomaar> Unfortunately those docs were very bad
2842[20:13:53] <rant> Sbef_BigBlue: you're using linux.. the kernel is likely using an alsa driver to control the sound hardware so you want to try as root (to rule out any permission issues) us a basic alsa sound test with perhaps aplay is a good choice
2844[20:14:25] <brwoods> is the us mirror painfully slow for anyone else?
2845[20:15:16] <rant> Sbef_BigBlue: aplay -l should list your sound hardware is the first thing I'd try.. if that fails to show the hardware then you found the problem.. if it does show the hardware, next step is to try play a sound
2890[20:22:48] <rant> Sbef_BigBlue: ok.. well maybe you WANT something like pulse because those things manage the issue of the device being busy by mixing applications that want to use sound at a higher level
2909[20:24:23] <somiaj> beeman: since you are learning, no reason learning the older syntax (it is simlar but there are changes)
2910[20:24:28] <rant> Sbef_BigBlue: this spotify you said you were using.. was this in a web browser?
2911[20:24:29] <Sbef_BigBlue> this is annoying. i've just been able to download my favorite playlist from spotify and now i cant listen to it damn
2912[20:24:40] <Sbef_BigBlue> rant: no spotify-client
2913[20:24:48] <beeman> how to install it
2914[20:24:53] <beeman> !search
2915[20:24:53] <dpkg> Please search for things rather than just asking, e.g. «apt-cache search regex», or with <aptitude search>. The following ways can locate packages that own a file (installed, or candidate for install): «dpkg -S /bin/foo», <apt-file>, <pdo> (online) and «/msg judd help file» (bot). <search dpkg> for factoids. See replaced-url
2916[20:24:59] <somiaj> beeman: php7-cli should be sufficent
2917[20:25:09] <somiaj> that is if you wnt the cli client and not one linked with apahce.
2918[20:25:09] <beeman> is there different between?
2938[20:27:50] <rant> Sbef_BigBlue: and there is only one output listed in aplay -l then?
2939[20:28:03] <somiaj> Shmam: in general you don't want to change the python version in debian, this can lead to problems. (you can install a different python in a python virtual enviroment though), and this will require building from upstream. I think there are guides on this.
2940[20:28:10] <zomaar> somiaj: I think only if you use dmix:0,0 or something?
2978[20:36:03] <greycat> if it says "sources.list" and "PPA" and "ubuntu" and "mixing releases" and "pinning" then throw it away, set fire to it, and run
2979[20:36:05] <kryl> zomaar, an additional option ? can you develop please (and I can't really reboot and use it it's a VM in a cloud)
2980[20:36:14] <Shmam> ok thankyou greycat
2981[20:36:37] <annadane> too much sudo on tutorials
2982[20:36:38] <zomaar> kryl: Multiple boot options in a menu
2983[20:36:48] <zomaar> kryl: I take it you know what the grub menu is right?
2984[20:36:54] <Shmam> grub yeay
2985[20:36:55] <greycat> the only part you should need root for is "make install"
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2987[20:37:02] <rant> Sbef_BigBlue: yes but as you see in my output, which is an ICH4, there are way more possible PCMs than hardware devices and if you need more advanced help like us telling you specifics of configuration we'd need to see specifics of your hardware
3005[20:40:17] <rant> Sbef_BigBlue: and have you tried different output hardware.. like headphones instead of your speakers..
3006[20:40:36] <Sbef_BigBlue> rant: idk how to screenshot, but alsamixer says everything is at max
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3009[20:41:00] <kryl> just to resume I have a debian/stretch system (in AWS) I plug an EBS drive on it and try to install all basics with debootstrap. partitioning, etc... when I chroot inside this automatic files can't recognize it's in a chroot and configure the same /boot/grub/grub.cfg than host OS ...
3015[20:42:12] <zomaar> It can't be the same or it wouldn't say "Found Debian Stretch"
3016[20:42:30] <Sbef_BigBlue> i dont know what i clicked and got playing music at max
3017[20:42:34] <Sbef_BigBlue> ahahahahha
3018[20:42:48] <Sbef_BigBlue> though, i'm noticing that this works just with earphones
3019[20:42:48] <zomaar> kryl: Can you then show the main system grub.cfg and the guest system grub.cfg?
3020[20:43:07] <brwoods> rant: I'm on a corp connection so that's not the limit, deb.debian.org is getting about 400-500kB/s so, it's better but still slow. Annoyingly the packages in my apt-cacher-ng timed out and were deleted so.
3027[20:45:53] <rant> brwoods: back in the day I prefered mirrors.kernel.org cause they have really fast servers.. but thats cause I'm in the US.. if you are as well you may try their mirror, their servers are really quick
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3034[20:46:47] <rant> brwoods: we used to have this program apt-spy that checked all the mirrors and configured you for the fastest one but something we did in recent releases broke that and it was removed sadyly
3035[20:47:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1635
3036[20:47:16] <brwoods> hrm, thanks for the tips, I'll try it soon
3041[20:47:56] <Sbef_BigBlue> ok, so, how to unmute from alsamixer?
3042[20:48:01] <greycat> press "m"
3043[20:48:04] <rant> Sbef_BigBlue: heh, well you can thank greycat for stating the obvious :P just go to the channel and press m
3044[20:48:05] <Sbef_BigBlue> i'm really sorry i made you lose so much time
3045[20:48:13] <greycat> 14:22 greycat> haven't been following... did you un-mute yet?
3046[20:48:43] <rant> Sbef_BigBlue: na, I've been stressed.. so I havent been catching small things. greycat called that a while ago :P
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3048[20:48:54] <notadrop> Question... 'sudo make install-deb' does 'rm -rf' on any *.deb files as one of its last steps... why?
3049[20:48:55] <greycat> on a brand new install, the master channel starts muted *and* at volume 0. you have to remember this, install alsa-utils, run alsamixer, un-mute the master channel, and raise the volume
3050[20:49:01] <Sbef_BigBlue> still not...
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3054[20:51:30] <rant> Sbef_BigBlue: if you arent concerned about a minor resource usage (not a really slow machine with low ram) and you are going to possibly use multiple sound apps, you may want to consider apt-get install pulseaudio pavucontrol
3055[20:51:33] <Sbef_BigBlue> trying to play around with settings
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3057[20:51:54] <rant> Sbef_BigBlue: and add pulseaudio to your session, so that apps can be mixed and managed individually
3058[20:51:57] <Sbef_BigBlue> rant: i'm on a '01 pentium 4 with 756 mb ram
3059[20:52:08] <Sbef_BigBlue> well there is this weird thing
3060[20:52:24] <rant> Sbef_BigBlue: this is a Pentium M w/ 1gb and I'm using mate with pulse
3061[20:52:39] <Sbef_BigBlue> if playing music, nothing happens. but if i switch the mono out
3062[20:52:46] <Sbef_BigBlue> i get a weird crappy sound
3067[20:53:23] <Sbef_BigBlue> rant: yeah! i meant i don't have problems with slowness and low ram :P
3068[20:53:37] <Sbef_BigBlue> greycat: i see... i didn't know how to use alsa :/
3069[20:53:47] <greycat> !alsa checklist
3070[20:53:47] <dpkg> 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>.
3076[20:54:58] <greycat> I think the community's position on pulseaudio has been softening, to the point where some people actually recommend installing it, instead of purging it with fire and bullets.
3077[20:55:10] <Sbef_BigBlue> ok
3078[20:55:13] <Sbef_BigBlue> i found out
3079[20:55:20] <Sbef_BigBlue> aplay was playing mono
3086[20:55:49] <Sbef_BigBlue> switched to stereo and now everything is fine
3087[20:56:02] <Sbef_BigBlue> anyway thank you for telling me how to unmute! thank you for real!
3088[20:56:23] <annadane> !tell Sbef_BigBlue about enter
3089[20:57:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1627
3090[20:57:29] <rant> heh. Yeah it works well now. I only avoid pulseaudio on systems where I'm at like 512MB ram or less or a really slow cpu.. cause it only takes about 10mb ram tops but its priority is high
3091[20:57:54] <Sbef_BigBlue> annadane: yeah, a lovely big button ahahahahhahaha sorry
3119[21:07:16] <Maws> Did a upgrade last night on debian testing, trying to boot this morning it comes up with lots of different errors , and eventually can't boot into gnome (Failed to start gnome, among other things), going into a console works, but when trying to do an apt-get update/upgrade I get E: sub-process /usr/bin/apt-listchanges --apt || test $? -lt 10 returned an error code (100). E: Failure running
3120[21:07:16] <Maws> script /usr/bin/apt-listchanges --apt || test $? -lt 10
3121[21:07:40] <greycat> Maws: does /bin/dash exist?
3133[21:10:31] <Maws> and then reboot again I guess or ?
3134[21:10:38] <greycat> well, probably yeah
3135[21:10:46] <greycat> god only knows what things failed to start up
3136[21:10:48] <Maws> or just run an update/upgrade again, I'l try a reboot first
3137[21:11:04] <wigums> ive got a box thats acting up. it goes through the boot process too fast for example i dont even have time to select a usb drive to boot or at grub screen i can hit "e" and it shows the grub stuff for like 1/4 seconds and boots...everyhing on the bo x works. webserver sshd apt etc etc. why would it be booting so fast? even if i do make it into bios it boots before i can do anything. anyone have any clue how to troubleshoot this?
3312[22:43:22] <grungy> greycat, linux for dummies :P
3313[22:43:25] <syntaxman> zomaar: the old dead tree tool for finding phone numbers
3314[22:43:31] <greycat> So, it's something that exists on NON-debian systems?
3315[22:43:35] <grungy> And yes it exists, I have it on debian 8
3316[22:43:41] <grungy> I am looking at it now
3317[22:43:42] <grungy> Anyway
3318[22:43:44] <grungy> Last question,
3319[22:44:05] <grungy> I have firewallD installed. I authorised port 22. Does it block all the remaining ports by defaut ?
3320[22:44:24] <dutchfish> syntaxman, without seing any logs (even without the ones that looks ok0 it hard to diagnose. You could delve in modules that are loaded (or not) for your particular system that are needed by systemd. I cant do anything at the moment without more input.
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3322[22:45:19] <zomaar> grungy, /src is empty because you are supposed to fill it yourself
3323[22:45:24] <zomaar> /srv
3324[22:45:30] <dutchfish> syntaxman, try to collect some logs and use pastebin
3325[22:45:36] <dutchfish> !pastebin
3326[22:45:36] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: replaced-url
3327[22:45:38] <syntaxman> dutchfish: still looking for more clues... I think I'm going to see if a reboot helps at all. I hate doing Windows style admin work ;-)
3337[22:47:27] <greycat> DammitJim: there should be a whole BUNCH of lines with debug2: that describe all the various ciphers offered by the client, by the server, and then which ones were chosen for each role.
3351[22:49:29] <SuperTramp83> iGullyGuy: you should also verify with gpg ans SHASUM the downloaded archive **before** extracting it and executing FF. You should follow the best practices for muh security when taking a hike outside your repo.
3376[22:57:59] <xz> hi there, I deployed f1-micro instance on google cloud (1vCPU/592MB RAM/10GB storage). I want to put a wordpress on it but wordpress requires SQL database. Would you know some light one that I can add to my instance? I'm planning on running very simple website with minimal to none traffic.
3506[23:37:28] <metastable> xz: You don't run wordpress as anything. You run your webserver as something. How do you think apache attaches to 80/443 without running as root? It drops root privileges as soon as the port is opened.
3508[23:38:16] <digdilem> apache runs as the user replaced-url
3509[23:38:22] <xz> metastable oh, so apache already takes care of that? I was running recently couple non-apache based services, like flask on command line and few others and I had to think about that then
3510[23:38:44] <metastable> xz: If you run it interactively, it runs as whatever user you run it as in most cases. Services are handled more sanely.
3511[23:39:15] <xz> metastable fair play. so you still think pure index.html is the safest?
3512[23:39:36] <xz> metastable I will check on google cloud dashboard if it doesn't have built-in tracking capabilities
3513[23:39:43] <metastable> Yes. If you need a full-blown CMS later, consider it. For now, stick to the basic requirement.
3514[23:40:37] <`Kevin> xz google analytics or something? just add the js tracker to your html