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• 50[00:24:15] <teatime> gvo: did that work?
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• 93[00:54:50] <darkhanb> Can gcc 4.8+ be installed on Debian 7 (Wheezy)?
• 94[00:55:09] <darkhanb> preferably via some apt-get package?
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• 96[00:57:58] <teatime> darkhanb: weezy has 4.7.2 (or 4.6.3)... weezy-backports doesn't have gcc (as you'd expect for the most part)... so, I'm gonna say it doesn't sound likely the answer to your question is "yes".
• 97[00:58:18] <teatime> darkhanb: since it's gcc in particular, also makes that less likely to work out.
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• 99[01:00:06] <teatime> darkhanb: the next stable (jessie) has 4.9.2... there may have been some point there where someone had a weezy-compatible package containing gcc 4.8, and such a package may possibly have even made it to sid or unstable at some point... but probably not. and you might never find it :)
• 100[01:00:19] <teatime> darkhanb: there's no official or supported way, definitely not.
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• 103[01:01:08] <teatime> darkhanb: if you only need it to compile one specific thing (developed or 3rd-party app, for example), I don't see why you can't download and build gcc, use it for that, and just not install it as the "system" gcc.
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• 107[01:01:30] <darkhanb> teatime thanks for the answer, why do you say: since it's gcc in particular, makes that less likely to work out?
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• 109[01:02:26] <teatime> darkhanb: gcc versions have to be kept, to a large degree (but not always 100%), in lock-step with kernel, libc, etc. versions.
• 110[01:03:06] <darkhanb> teatime is compiling a newer version gcc system-wide is dangerous?
• 111[01:03:17] <teatime> darkhanb: upgrading gcc, probably implies upgrading the kernel and libc, and those kinds of upgrades happen most naturally in debian, by migrating to the new distribution.
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• 113[01:04:14] <teatime> darkhanb: compiling it, and even using it to build your app, is not dangerous. installing it... not dangerous exactly... I mean you don't need a working compiler to install binary .deb package...
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• 115[01:05:53] <teatime> darkhanb: but perhaps if you have a -dkms package, that needs to re-compile a kernel module whenever you install a new kernel version... perhaps gcc 4.8 is not supported for building the linux kernel version that's in weezy. (each kernel has a usually fairly specific/narrow version of gcc it 'works with'). As an example of what might break.
• 116[01:06:40] <darkhanb> teatime wow, I see, pretty low level
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• 118[01:06:48] <teatime> darkhanb: and also gcc 4.8 may require newer versions of things than what you have installed on weezy. you'd have to check that (you have to check this anyway if you use my idea) yourself reading the gcc 4.8 docs/README/INSTALL
• 119[01:06:50] <mrjayribs> So i'm having some NM problems
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• 121[01:07:30] <darkhanb> teatime well, I guess, I'll have to do wheezy => jessie migration
• 122[01:07:39] <darkhanb> teatime thanks for responses
• 123[01:07:42] <mrjayribs> replaced-url
• 124[01:07:52] <teatime> darkhanb: np. that is certainly most advisable, whenever possible :)
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• 126[01:07:58] <mrjayribs> This all started trying to get access to my companies VPN T_T
• 127[01:08:19] <mrjayribs> I wonder if anyone could help me :) (pretty please, let the karma Gods praise you)
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• 131[01:09:19] <teatime> mrjayribs: looks to me like you probably have a syntax error in /etc/network/interfaces
• 132[01:09:35] <mrjayribs> Interesting
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• 134[01:10:21] <mrjayribs> I believe that happened with Docker when I installed or removed it
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• 136[01:10:25] <teatime> mrjayribs: where were you working to configure VPN? I don't tbh know exactly what 'ifup --read-interfaces' does, think it's an internal-use option even (it's not in ifup man-page).
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• 138[01:11:10] <teatime> mrjayribs: can you run as root: /sbin/ifup -a --read-environment ; echo $?
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• 140[01:12:06] <mrjayribs> I'm running it as root in the man user
• 141[01:12:10] <teatime> mrjayribs: looks like it's actually more about /etc/default/networking ... have you edited that and introduced errors?
• 142[01:12:56] <mrjayribs> No I haven't
• 143[01:13:43] <teatime> there's probably more helpful messages in other logs (`journalctl`). in the meantime, I'll do a little research about this.
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• 145[01:14:27] <teatime> mrjayribs: (by the way, docker-ce managed to hose my networking in a stupid way when I installed it, too. not this issue. but enough for me to say, if that broke your debian I am unsurprised, sigh.)
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• 148[01:15:49] <teatime> mrjayribs: what I meant was, what are you doing / using / etc., when you are configuring the vpn?
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• 150[01:16:16] <teatime> mrjayribs: I'm assuming the error you pastebin'd, is what you're now getting on boot, and your system is broken. right?
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• 152[01:16:26] <mrjayribs> Well a little
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• 154[01:16:33] <mrjayribs> I may need to get another install or sometihng
• 155[01:16:43] <mrjayribs> but let me show you what got printed with first command
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• 159[01:17:50] <mrjayribs> replaced-url
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• 161[01:18:09] <mrjayribs> teatime: yeah I wouldn't be surpised either lol
• 162[01:18:22] <mrjayribs> I ripped it off my computer thinking it caused a connetivity issue with this VPN
• 163[01:18:31] <mrjayribs> which looks to connect properly; yet I have no issue
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• 165[01:18:42] <mrjayribs> Network Manger never worked well on this laptop; so I used wicd
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• 167[01:18:53] <mrjayribs> someone at from work said that's old and doesn't work
• 168[01:19:22] <mrjayribs> so I wanted to use NM; and the only way I can talk right now was use dhclient (which I just read off a forum somewhere)
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• 171[01:20:05] <mrjayribs> Oh and for the OpenVPN config
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• 173[01:20:11] <mrjayribs> getting the log...
• 174[01:20:37] <teatime> mrjayribs: because of the way you redirected my command to tb, it actually doesn't show me all the output.
• 175[01:20:59] <mrjayribs> oh sorry
• 176[01:22:08] <teatime> mrjayribs: it looks like perhaps the problem is that a configuration exists in /etc/networking/interfaces (or /etc/default/networking) but that device doesn't actually exist. relating to a device named enp0s31f6
• 177[01:22:10] <mrjayribs> replaced-url
• 178[01:22:30] <mrjayribs> yeah how can I make sure it uses the right device?
• 179[01:22:41] <mrjayribs> which is believe is enp0s25:
• 180[01:22:42] <teatime> mrjayribs: it would be extremely helpful to know exactly when you started having problems / what you did that first introduced the problem.
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• 182[01:22:51] <mrjayribs> Oh okay
• 183[01:22:54] <mrjayribs> So
• 184[01:22:59] <teatime> mrjayribs: how to make sure what uses the right device?
• 185[01:23:26] <mrjayribs> So right now there's a quite a bit of layered of problems. Let me try to lay it out now...
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• 193[01:24:17] <teatime> mrjayribs: (lol. thank you for fixing the paste, but actually termbin.com is fine (dpaste is preferred here, pastebin is bad), it is the fact that the command ends in '| tb' that is hiding information from me, though.)
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• 195[01:24:44] <mrjayribs> oh okay gotcha
• 196[01:24:47] <teatime> mrjayribs: that redirects the stdout (to tb), and then prints the stderr (which you copy-pasted?). I would like to see both.
• 197[01:24:52] <mrjayribs> thanks for the advice
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• 202[01:27:17] <mrjayribs> Summary: I need to get connected to a VPN so I can work remotely with my company.
• 203[01:27:18] <mrjayribs> Problem A: When I connect to the VPN, I don't have access to the internet. The VPN shows a proper connection, confirmed by 3 people at my company.
• 204[01:27:18] <mrjayribs> Problem B: I used wicd to connect to my internet, which I thus remove.
• 205[01:27:18] <mrjayribs> Problem C: I wanted to use Network Manager, with the idea that this is how OpenVPN wanted to connect, and the wicd is old (according to members at work)
• 206[01:27:18] <mrjayribs> Bonus Troubleshooting step: we thought Docker may have cause d some config issue, which I then removed. I also changed the /etc/resolv.conf to at NS of 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
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• 208[01:27:37] <teatime> heh
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• 210[01:28:00] <mrjayribs> O_o
• 211[01:28:02] <mrjayribs> sorry
• 212[01:28:11] <teatime> mrjayribs: np, understood. continue.
• 213[01:28:25] <mrjayribs> So what did you see; idk when I got booted
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• 215[01:28:35] <teatime> up to the 'Bonus Troubleshooting' line
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• 217[01:29:06] <mrjayribs> So you saw the fact that I changed NS and removed Docker/
• 218[01:29:19] <teatime> up to the 'Bonus Troubleshooting' lineyes
• 219[01:29:21] <teatime> er, yes.
• 220[01:29:23] <teatime> so your internet was working, with wicd. although you've since uninstalled that, and tried or are trying to install NetworkManager. and you removed docker. am I understanding correct?
• 221[01:29:25] <mrjayribs> okay; that was all
• 222[01:29:46] <mrjayribs> correct! Yes I'm trying to get NM to work now; as the only way I'm getting connect is with dhclient
• 223[01:30:02] <teatime> but you *are* able to, manually, get your laptop online, and internet works... and then you can VPN connect, and VPN works... but at that point, internet no longer works.
• 224[01:30:06] <teatime> yes?
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• 226[01:30:32] <mrjayribs> Correct!
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• 228[01:31:23] <teatime> ok, so. I think the reason you can't internet when you VPN, is probably a VPN configuration problem (specifically for more info: you need 'split tunneling' OR a default route through the VPN)
• 229[01:31:41] <teatime> mrjayribs: but the correct next step forward for you, is to fix/correct NetworkManager first
• 230[01:32:17] <mrjayribs> I agree. I find this necessory for when my laptop comes out of my home network and I have to find other networks
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• 232[01:32:21] <teatime> mrjayribs: (which I think you can then do the VPN config graphically through NetworkManager)
• 233[01:32:39] <mrjayribs> I've also heard this as well; there's gnome package for OpenVPN
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• 235[01:32:50] <teatime> mrjayribs: ok, so the real support question is: I removed wicd and am having trouble getting NetworkManager installed and working.
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• 237[01:33:01] <mrjayribs> Correct!
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• 240[01:35:03] <mrjayribs> Okay so where can I start? Any forums or guides?
• 241[01:35:08] <teatime> mrjayribs: are any interfaces (particularly enp0s31f6) defined in /etc/network/interfaces ? or can you just termbin that file for me please, and your /etc/default/networking please, and also the output of 'ip link show' ('ip link show | tb' will be fine)
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• 243[01:35:34] <mrjayribs> oh hey
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• 247[01:36:23] <mrjayribs> replaced-url
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• 249[01:38:35] <teatime> mrjayribs: you will want to install these packages: network-manager network-manager-gnome network-manager-openvpn network-manager-openvpn-gnome (I *think* those are the right ones for your case.)
• 250[01:39:13] <teatime> mrjayribs: I will wait for you to 'ip link show | tb' before I continue
• 251[01:40:34] <mrjayribs> okay
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• 254[01:41:23] <teatime> (also if I said dpaste was preferred here earlier, that was a mental slip, replaced-url
• 255[01:41:40] <RoyK> teatime: tb?
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• 257[01:42:07] <teatime> RoyK: an alias or something he seems to have setup that works like pastebinit except to termbin.com (which btw is a nice & easy to use pastebin)
• 258[01:42:44] <mrjayribs> Okay I installed; and yeah it's an alias
• 259[01:42:47] <RoyK> teatime: a local alias for something isn't good advice for someone else ;)
• 260[01:42:53] <teatime> RoyK: it's probably defined as 'nc termbin.com 9999' which is all you need to remember to not need pastebinit, which is why termbin is nice :)
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• 262[01:43:38] <RoyK> teatime: just don't post unusable commands as advices
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• 264[01:43:54] <teatime> RoyK: Luckily, I am giving advice to *him*, who *does* know what I mean./
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• 268[01:44:56] <RoyK> and again, not so luckily, you were answered by me, who has been in the linux game for 25 years and knows what matters, so please stick to the normal commands
• 269[01:45:22] <teatime> RoyK: if you want to discuss this further, I will in -offtopic. I didn't do anything wrong afaict.
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• 272[01:45:41] <mrjayribs> and teatimeyou're right
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• 274[01:45:56] <teatime> mrjayribs: anyway. the last two lines of /etc/network/interfaces are your immediate problem. as I said first thing :) you have a device defined that doesn't really exist.
• 275[01:46:04] <mrjayribs> yessir
• 276[01:46:16] * RoyK does a small "alias jhaisudhaisudh=pastebinit" and asks teatime to do a command | jhaisudhaisudh
• 277[01:46:17] <teatime> mrjayribs: remove the last 3 lines from /etc/network/interfaces , install the packages I listed, let me know if it doesn't all Just Work™ after that.
• 278[01:46:19] <mrjayribs> how do i make sure on I use the right devic
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• 280[01:47:01] <teatime> mrjayribs: you actually don't need to care / configure the device name, when you're using network-manager.
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• 282[01:47:07] <RoyK> !tb
• 283[01:47:07] <dpkg> i guess tb is TeraByte!
• 284[01:47:13] <teatime> RoyK: off-topic
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• 286[01:47:15] <mrjayribs> I see
• 287[01:47:23] <RoyK> teatime: you are off-topic
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• 290[01:47:39] <teatime> I am trying to help mrjayribs fix his system, RoyK.
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• 292[01:48:01] <mrjayribs> :D
• 293[01:48:05] <teatime> mrjayribs: I don't know how that device got into your /etc/network/interfaces file; you must have done it manually at some point? Or *maybe* docker install did it...
• 294[01:48:20] <mrjayribs> ah it restarted properly!
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• 296[01:48:46] <mrjayribs> replaced-url
• 297[01:48:47] <mrjayribs> !!!
• 298[01:48:47] <dpkg> I'm not your csh prompt!
• 299[01:48:55] <teatime> mrjayribs: if the device name changed at some point, would partially explain this. but that isn't supposed to happen. unless you like physically swapped network cards.
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• 302[01:49:11] <mrjayribs> It actually did; I used to have a ThinkPenguin USB
• 303[01:49:17] <teatime> welp there you go.
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• 305[01:49:28] <mrjayribs> so how do I open the GUI for network manager?
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• 307[01:50:09] <teatime> mrjayribs: the program is nm-applet (run that), it is a task-tray icon that you click on to do stuff (like connect to a wifi network, add a vpn config, etc.)
• 308[01:50:25] <teatime> mrjayribs: perhaps reboot first also if you can just to make sure everything is in a consistent-state
• 309[01:51:02] <mrjayribs> good call. I'll back
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• 416[03:00:36] <fprophet> I'm trying to setup an iptables rule to block LAN on a pc that is acting as vpn server. The only thing is my router shares the default gateway with the router url
• 417[03:01:08] <fprophet> so when I add the lan addresses I kill the internet
• 418[03:01:38] <fprophet> should I just get a different router?
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• 426[03:06:38] <limbo_> router URL? They're the same device.
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• 428[03:07:06] <fprophet> I mean ip I guess
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• 433[03:10:05] <jfmcarreira> heyy guys
• 434[03:10:08] <limbo_> so, you want to block outcoing connections to your home network, but still allow ones going to the internet?
• 435[03:10:23] <jfmcarreira> how can i add a new application into debian repositories?
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• 437[03:11:01] <fprophet> yes
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• 439[03:12:02] <teatime> fprophet: I understand what you're wanting, I think. You want the box to have VPN access, and *only* as much internet access as is required for the VPN to function. a common configuration.
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• 441[03:12:56] <fprophet> Yes, basically
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• 444[03:13:52] <teatime> fprophet: The usual way is: Before VPN connection is turned on, you have a default route via your local router. When VPN is activated, that changes to 1) the routes needed to reach your router, and 2) a default route to the internet *via the VPN* / via a router reachable via VPN
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• 446[03:13:58] <teatime> that's part of what you ask for / need, anyway.
• 447[03:14:07] <fprophet> teatime: I have tried rules such as iptables -D OUTPUT -s 10.8.0.0/24 -d 192.168.1.0/24 -j DROP but these kill all internet access
• 448[03:14:16] <teatime> You can't block "everything to LAN", as you've seen, because that includes "everything" going to router.
• 449[03:14:57] <fprophet> well that's not good because my router is a pos and I can't risk having someone connect to it directly or whatever and monkey with settings
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• 451[03:15:03] <teatime> fprophet: hrm actually maybe ignore me / take with grain of salt, about the routing. that is common. but maybe you don't even want them to get to internet via VPN.
• 452[03:15:05] <jehorn> Evening
• 453[03:15:25] <teatime> fprophet: oh. maybe we have an XY problem. *Why* do you want to block LAN access?
• 454[03:15:54] <fprophet> I don't really want to discuss it because my isp hasn't even offered a fix
• 455[03:16:16] <teatime> fix for what.
• 456[03:16:17] <fprophet> but basically you can connect to the router without much of a password
• 457[03:16:45] <fprophet> no firmware solutions, nothing of that sort
• 458[03:16:53] <teatime> Oh, OK; you're not trying to block access to the LAN; you're trying to block access to your router's configuration page.
• 459[03:17:03] <fprophet> yes
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• 461[03:17:06] <fprophet> but LAN would be a bonus
• 462[03:17:47] <fprophet> but I think I know how to do the LAN stuff, just not the router issue
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• 464[03:17:57] <relaxedmyfriend> hi
• 465[03:18:25] <teatime> fprophet: this isn't really a debian-specific issue. I could tell you some more stuff but it'd be off-topic here, I guess.
• 466[03:18:34] <fprophet> butts
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• 468[03:19:03] <fprophet> guess I'll just get a router for the router
• 469[03:19:25] <relaxedmyfriend> .
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• 471[03:19:45] <teatime> relaxedmyfriend: Hi. If you have a debian user support question, just ask.
• 472[03:21:20] <teatime> fprophet: you can hit me up in #debian-offtopic or privmsg if you want.
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• 474[03:22:20] <relaxedmyfriend> i used debian 9.3 . but its kernel is 4.9.x . Do you think kernel 4.9.x is stable? according to kernel releases, 4.9.x is not a LTS supported version.
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• 478[03:24:04] <teatime> relaxedmyfriend: Debian supports that kernel, LTS or not from upstream is kinda irrelevant at that point. You can upgrade to a newer kernel (4.13 or 4.14 or so) from stretch-backports if you wanted to, but that would be less "stable", at least for the Debian definition of "stable".
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• 480[03:24:37] <epicmetal> it seems to me that 4.9.x is "longterm" replaced-url
• 481[03:24:40] <teatime> relaxedmyfriend: for an important server, you have the most stable configuration available. for your e.g. workstation, if you needed a newer kernel for some reason, updating to the backports version would be what you'd do.
• 482[03:25:19] <Francisco_Marinh> I noticed his incompatibility with the virtualbox
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• 484[03:26:28] <teatime> replaced-url
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• 488[03:27:27] <relaxedmyfriend> to be honest, in my workstation, i still use kernel 4.4.x right now. but in my virtualbox or my own compiled Linux, i used kernel 4.9.x +
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• 490[03:27:47] <relaxedmyfriend> for server, i use 4.10.x
• 491[03:28:37] <teatime> relaxedmyfriend: the real answer to your question is, old versions of software on debian stable are fine, because debian backports security fixes (and very critical bug fixes) to their "old" versions in stable.
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• 493[03:29:21] <relaxedmyfriend> teatime, thx. so old kernel from a stable debian will be maintained always right?
• 494[03:29:46] <teatime> relaxedmyfriend: for as long as stable is maintained, anyway. it does eventually become oldstable and then go out of support.
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• 498[03:30:59] <relaxedmyfriend> teatime, how long will a release of debian be supported? ( ubuntu maintains a LTS version for 5 years usually )
• 499[03:33:14] <teatime> relaxedmyfriend: see replaced-url
• 500[03:33:46] <teatime> relaxedmyfriend: typically, ignoring Debian LTS, a stable is supported for about 3 years.
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• 530[04:00:49] <epicmetal> Howcome d-i has daily netinst snapshots but no weekly ones?
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• 532[04:01:38] <epicmetal> Not that it really matters, nevermind
• 533[04:01:39] <teatime> epicmetal: what would be the point? it's a weekly snapshot if day-of-week % 7 == 0.
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• 535[04:02:41] <somiaj> epicmetal: replaced-url
• 536[04:03:58] <somiaj> epicmetal: oh I see, you mean why don't they put the new d-i on there? My guess is the weekyl snapshots are meant to be more installable for testing, so they use the stable d-i, and only test the new d-i on the daily snapshots.
• 537[04:04:29] <somiaj> the testing d-i can sometimes be rough to use.
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• 539[04:06:49] <teatime> oh. sounds like I was wrong :)
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• 550[04:15:40] <kabo> Hi, I'm running debian buster with gnome, and I've edited /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/us to add a custom variant
• 551[04:16:06] <kabo> How do I make that custom varian show up under input sources of region & language?
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• 556[04:17:05] <kabo> I've tried sudo systemctl restart keyboard-setup
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• 559[04:17:47] <kabo> I've tried logging out and back in again
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• 561[04:18:21] <kabo> Is there some gnome command I need to run or something?
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• 565[04:27:46] <kabo> Ah, I edited /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.xml and it popped up
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• 586[04:49:45] <DerLGm> For some reason I can't get past login screen...
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• 589[04:50:11] <DerLGm> I have access to one tty
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• 592[04:50:38] <DerLGm> But I camt save anything...
• 593[04:51:04] <annadane> what do you mean by save?
• 594[04:51:06] <DerLGm> Vim says "e297: write error in swap file"
• 595[04:51:28] <annadane> can't get past login screen to your debian desktop?
• 596[04:51:28] <DerLGm> annadane: I can't save a file or make a folder
• 597[04:51:35] <DerLGm> annadane: correct
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• 599[04:51:59] <themill> How are you running vim if you can't log in? I think some details might help
• 600[04:52:45] <themill> (what release, how did you install and when, has it ever worked, what might have changed recently to break it)
• 601[04:52:56] <DerLGm> Gui login not working. Screen goes black and reloads login
• 602[04:53:13] <DerLGm> Terminal works fine but can't save a file
• 603[04:53:28] <DerLGm> It was working fine the other day...
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• 605[04:54:19] <DerLGm> Running 4.9.0-4 kernel
• 606[04:54:22] <DerLGm> P
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• 609[04:54:49] <DerLGm> 9.3 stretch
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• 625[05:05:52] <themill> DerLGm: does "mount" indicate that filesystems are readonly?
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• 629[05:07:06] <DerLGm> themill: it's all rw
• 630[05:07:34] <DerLGm> Re,noexec,relatime
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• 634[05:16:55] <DerLGm> Solved it. Boot drive was taking up too much space with unused kernel
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• 638[05:18:11] <annadane> iirc you're still a kernel behind, i may be wrong
• 639[05:18:16] <annadane> ,kernels
• 640[05:18:17] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.15.0-rc8-686 (4.15~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.14.0-3-686-pae (4.14.13-1); buster: 4.14.0-2-686-pae (4.14.7-1); stretch-backports: 4.14.0-0.bpo.3-686-pae (4.14.13-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-5-686 (4.9.65-3+deb9u2); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.5-686-pae (4.9.65-3+deb9u2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-5-686-pae (3.16.51-3+deb8u1); wheezy-backports:
• 641[05:18:18] <judd> 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-5-686-pae (3.2.96-3)
• 642[05:18:44] <annadane> yeah, consider upgrading, i believe 4.9.0-5 is the meltdown fix
• 643[05:18:59] <roxma> replaced-url
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• 646[05:19:21] <DerLGm> annadane: that was the problem lol
• 647[05:19:32] <roxma> Hi, any idea why tzdata doesn't respect the values in debconf-set-selections?
• 648[05:19:38] <DerLGm> The kernel I was configuring took up too much space
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• 650[05:22:56] <themill> roxma: when a package is already installed, the current configuration is relevant and debconf is not; debconf is not a registry
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• 658[05:24:51] <themill> roxma: removing /etc/timezone prior to running dpkg-reconfigure should work
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• 660[05:26:27] <themill> (or just create /etc/timezone and /etc/localtime correctly yourself)
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• 666[05:28:48] <rue_shop4> anyone know a window manager with a minimize button on the window header?
• 667[05:29:51] <rue_shop4> ANYONE!?!?! I need a minimize button!!!!
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• 669[05:30:39] <annadane> i assume you're on GNOME; it's in the GNOME tweak tool or whatever it's called
• 670[05:30:40] <rue_shop4> why isn't window manager under settings?
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• 672[05:31:33] <annadane> though if you do want an entirely different window manager i guess openbox
• 673[05:31:57] <rue_shop4> ok
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• 675[05:32:37] <annadane> ,v gnome-tweak-tool
• 676[05:32:38] <judd> Package: gnome-tweak-tool on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.4.0.1-2; jessie: 3.14.2-2; stretch: 3.22.0-1; buster: 3.26.4-1; sid: 3.26.4-1
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• 678[05:33:03] <annadane> so install that if it's not already, at least i think you need that for those buttons
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• 680[05:33:27] <rue_shop4> there is no option to add restore and minimize in gnome-tweak-tool
• 681[05:33:55] <annadane> oh maybe it's in gnome extensions
• 682[05:34:01] <rue_shop4> :/
• 683[05:34:15] <rue_shop4> openbox eh?
• 684[05:34:39] <rue_shop4> I'm gonna fill this drive up with hopeless window managers
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• 689[05:35:15] <annadane> i know of no other de/wm other than gnome which hides the minimize by default so yeah, take your pick, openbox is quite nice, there's a nice list onreplaced-url
• 690[05:35:21] <rue_shop4> if people like your software package, why would you change everything about it?
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• 692[05:36:01] <rue_shop4> ahh, openbox works
• 693[05:36:05] <rue_shop4> thanks :)
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• 697[05:37:14] <Epx998> What tftp software is regarded as the 'best' ? Been tinkering with a few, cant seem to decide.
• 698[05:37:19] <annadane> it's certainly not intuitive; debian would be well served by having something like xfce as default
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• 700[05:37:44] <rue_shop4> som, how the heck do I make openbox the default wm?
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• 702[05:37:59] <annadane> you should be able to select it on your login screen
• 703[05:38:00] <Epx998> gui's are overrated ;D
• 704[05:38:13] <annadane> and it will remember the preference
• 705[05:38:16] <rue_shop4> Epx998, ++
• 706[05:38:27] <dsareoan32> are you using a dm?
• 707[05:38:41] <rue_shop4> I cant recall how this machine is broken
• 708[05:39:02] <rue_shop4> I tend to take large hammers to debain installs, figuritivly
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• 711[05:39:29] <rue_shop4> :( I blew up my $5 chineese power converter
• 712[05:40:39] <Epx998> am i in the wrong channel to ask about tftp servers?
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• 714[05:40:53] <dsareoan32> is debian the best for anynomity or can the same be done with any distro? I see that debian provides onion services.
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• 717[05:42:59] <themill> dsareoan32: tails is probably the leader in that space
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• 719[05:44:19] <Epx998> turn off all your devices for anonymity
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• 721[05:46:05] <dsareoan32> themill, Epx998 thanks ;^)
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• 733[05:57:58] <annadane> sorry, ifconfig is part of which debian package again?
• 734[05:58:30] <themill> net-tools
• 735[05:58:37] <annadane> right, thanks
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• 750[06:06:13] <awal1> ifconfig is being deprecated in favor of ip, annadane
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• 752[06:07:42] <awal1> something like xorg vs wayland
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• 755[06:11:12] <teatime> ugh, is xorg really on the edge of being considered obsolete/deprecated?
• 756[06:11:25] <teatime> I will not enjoy that future.
• 757[06:11:40] <annadane> i wouldn't say so
• 758[06:11:57] <annadane> wayland is still fairly young and in any case x is probably supported for a long time
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• 760[06:12:02] <annadane> but i'm really not sure
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• 767[06:15:04] <awal1> xorg replaced completely by wayland? not in the near future
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• 769[06:17:08] <awal1> xorg devs are almost the ones who are working in wayland project
• 770[06:17:19] <awal1> the same one ^
• 771[06:17:22] <awal1> ones
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• 774[06:18:32] <awal1> teatime, you'll enjoy wayland just as you ar eenjoying systemd now :P
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• 776[06:19:11] <teatime> awal1: exactly :(
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• 779[06:19:32] <awal1> at the beginning systemd was the bad boy, now almost all gnu/linux users likes it/are indifferent, they just wanna a working system
• 780[06:19:46] <onlyabyte> Just a reminder to any maintainers here that there is an error with replaced-url
• 781[06:19:51] <awal1> will be same for wayland
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• 784[06:20:15] <annadane> that link doesn't work
• 785[06:20:19] <onlyabyte> Exactly
• 786[06:20:35] <onlyabyte> It should but it doesn't, my package manager can't install that package
• 787[06:20:45] <teatime> I'm far from over/indifferent to the systemd thing. but I guess that's already done enough damage to Debian without another discussion about it here, now.
• 788[06:20:47] <onlyabyte> should I try a different mirror?
• 789[06:20:54] <annadane> well, can you post your output to paste.debian.net? and yeah, maybe try another mirror
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• 791[06:21:22] <annadane> i have xfce4 on sid though i installed it some days ago
• 792[06:21:51] <awal1> onlyabyte, try a redirector, deb.debian.org or httpredir.debian.org
• 793[06:22:01] <onlyabyte> It says "Waiting for headers" essentially
• 794[06:22:08] <annadane> yeah or a redirector
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• 796[06:22:13] <onlyabyte> cheers
• 797[06:22:15] <annadane> though deb.debian.org isn't without problems
• 798[06:22:26] <annadane> replaced-url
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• 800[06:22:30] <awal1> not sure, but i think hhttpredir in no longer "the default" on stretch?
• 801[06:22:39] <awal1> on/in
• 802[06:22:39] <annadane> not sure
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• 804[06:24:31] <teatime> annadane: his link works fine for me ?
• 805[06:25:18] <annadane> i get internal server error
• 806[06:25:20] <awal1> Internal Server Error Apache Server at packages.debian.org Port 443
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• 808[06:26:11] <teatime> works here. so, yeah, I guess inconsistent mirrors or something?
• 809[06:26:26] <onlyabyte> yea
• 810[06:26:27] <teatime> this is the URL I am talking about: replaced-url
• 811[06:26:36] <onlyabyte> I emailed webmaster
• 812[06:26:55] <annadane> well okay, that one works
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• 814[06:27:20] <annadane> anyway, libx265-146 doesn't exist in stretch; replaced-url
• 815[06:27:42] <onlyabyte> I'm trying to use Sid
• 816[06:27:44] <teatime> oh sorry, thought that was the link you said was broken
• 817[06:27:46] <onlyabyte> I am already on Sid
• 818[06:27:58] <onlyabyte> :)
• 819[06:27:59] <annadane> oh, right, you did say so
• 820[06:28:16] <onlyabyte> I'm just trying random mirrors now
• 821[06:28:49] <onlyabyte> no luck so far :/
• 822[06:28:57] <teatime> onlyabyte: support for testing and sid is in #debian-next fwiw
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• 824[06:29:07] <onlyabyte> is this stable support?
• 825[06:29:10] <teatime> yeah
• 826[06:29:16] <onlyabyte> ah, cheers
• 827[06:29:32] <annadane> it's support for debian stable, how mentally stable the supporters are is another question entirely...
• 828[06:29:51] <onlyabyte> hahaha
• 829[06:31:01] <teatime> onlyabyte: oh, which is on OFTC btw, not Freenode.
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• 831[06:31:25] <onlyabyte> Thanks for letting me know, it was saying about being invited.
• 832[06:31:43] <annadane> !debian-next
• 833[06:31:43] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
• 834[06:31:44] <annadane> ;)
• 835[06:31:53] <teatime> lol
• 836[06:32:06] <annadane> but for your type of problem it may well just be a mirror thing and not sid being a broken mess of blah
• 837[06:32:26] <teatime> which, if so, it should resolve itself very shortly
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• 839[06:32:54] <onlyabyte> fingers crossed
• 840[06:33:04] <onlyabyte> Is there a debian off-topic channel?
• 841[06:33:07] <teatime> yes
• 842[06:33:15] <teatime> #debian-offtopic
• 843[06:33:32] <onlyabyte> thanks
• 844[06:33:35] <annadane> on both freenode and oftc. :D
• 845[06:33:46] <teatime> was gonna say... I suppose there's two, I'm in the freenode one
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• 854[06:39:41] <benjr> linux novice here, just turned on a machine thats been off for over a year, tried to do updates and ive managed to screw it up, the updates failed and wont work anymore replaced-url
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• 856[06:41:16] <annadane> so i don't know the answer to your problem but by having "stable" in your sources list you've gone from or are trying to go from jessie to stretch
• 857[06:41:25] <annadane> because a year ago jessie was stable and now stretch is
• 858[06:41:34] <awal1> apt-get update first, if not done, benjr
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• 863[06:43:27] <benjr> awal1: i did update then dist-upgrade, which errored, now i cant to upgrade or dist-upgrade anymore because apt is too old or something like that
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• 867[06:45:08] <awal1> replaced-url
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• 869[06:45:40] <annadane> it's in the list of debian mirrors
• 870[06:45:46] <annadane> in the US
• 871[06:46:22] <benjr> awal1: ive moved countries so i also ran netselect-apt and it suggested that one
• 872[06:46:54] <annadane> benjr, i'll wait for other opinions but you may want to just reinstall if you accidentally upgraded from one stable to another without intending it and now have some kind of borked system
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• 875[06:47:06] <annadane> though not everyone wants to do that
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• 877[06:48:03] <awal1> benjr, not sure what happens there, since we ignore what you did previously...
• 878[06:48:40] <annadane> though if you go that route and want stretch then just install stretch of course
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• 885[06:54:05] <benjr> $ cat /etc/debian_version returns 9.3 ... im going to guess thats only because i tried to do dist-upgrade right?
• 886[06:54:16] <benjr> i dont actually know what version i had
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• 890[06:55:10] <annadane> if it's been off for over a year you most definitely went from some release to the new stable, having "stable" in your sources list instead of the codename
• 891[06:55:17] <onlyabyte> now I can't get libxvidcore4 installed
• 892[06:55:23] <onlyabyte> sigh
• 893[06:55:36] <annadane> onlyabyte, again, post your output; if you're on sid it might be a transition thing
• 894[06:55:50] <onlyabyte> It's in a VM :/
• 895[06:55:55] <annadane> !termbin
• 896[06:55:55] <dpkg> i heard termbin is you can paste to termbin.com from terminal via: cat /path/to/file | nc termbin.com 9999
• 897[06:55:57] <onlyabyte> that's okay annadane, I'll fix it. :)
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• 899[07:01:24] <benjr> oh well, sounds like the solution is over my head guess ill wipe and reinstall
• 900[07:01:43] <annadane> i'd offer to help more but i feel i'd just make the situation worse
• 901[07:01:52] <annadane> reinstalling is easier if you back up your stuff
• 902[07:02:45] <benjr> all my personal data is on separate drives, itll just be reinstalling and configuring the network settings and the programs i use
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• 906[07:04:10] <annadane> and this time if you don't want unwelcome surprises, use stretch in your sources list instead of stable
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• 908[07:04:22] <annadane> which is the default anyway
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• 914[07:07:42] <vahe> help pls I accidentally did a dd if= iso of = /dev/sda but after a few seconds as to recover the HDD drive?
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• 916[07:08:09] <vahe> there critical data
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• 918[07:08:30] <teatime> vahe: you have... messed up. severely.
• 919[07:08:51] <vahe> teatime: how to recover files ?
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• 921[07:09:06] <vahe> how to check maybe there is something else
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• 926[07:10:19] <teatime> vahe: well, don't reboot, firstly.
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• 928[07:10:30] <teatime> as long as linux is still running you can still get your partition table back
• 929[07:11:43] <teatime> which is not your data, but it's one step into helping you find it, if it still exists
• 930[07:12:00] <vahe> is there anywhere else?
• 931[07:12:17] <teatime> anywhere else?
• 932[07:12:17] <vahe> there is a photo video important
• 933[07:12:28] <vahe> OS does not matter
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• 935[07:12:41] <vahe> I need to recover photos and videos
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• 937[07:13:51] <teatime> there are apps you can run to find files, specifically photos and hopefully videos, after such an accident. assuming they still exist. some or all may have been destroyed by what you did. and even if not, some of the ones it finds will be returned corrupted, etc.
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• 940[07:15:18] <teatime> I can't remember the name of the specific tool I have in mind... but there's more than one, maybe newer ones than I know of.
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• 942[07:16:00] <awal1> testdisk
• 943[07:16:22] <awal1> photorec from testdisk may help you, vahe
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• 945[07:18:06] <teatime> awal1: ah, yes, photorec is exactly what I was thinking of.
• 946[07:18:18] <awal1> :)
• 947[07:18:26] <annadane> ,v photorec
• 948[07:18:27] <judd> No package named 'photorec' was found in amd64.
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• 950[07:18:33] <annadane> ,v testdisk
• 951[07:18:34] <judd> Package: testdisk on amd64 -- wheezy: 6.13-1; jessie: 6.14-3+b3; stretch: 7.0-3; buster: 7.0-3+b2; sid: 7.0-3+b2
• 952[07:18:57] <awal1> photorec is an utility included in textdisk pkg
• 953[07:19:01] <annadane> though i wonder if you dd'd to the wrong location whether apt install testdisk would even work
• 954[07:19:30] <teatime> annadane: maybe. it depends. depending on what was at the beginning of his disk, he may not have really broken anything about the linux system. as long as he doesn't reboot.
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• 956[07:19:40] <vahe> awal1: I installed what to do next? apt install testdisk OK
• 957[07:19:42] <teatime> annadane: but usually you use it from a livecd etc.
• 958[07:19:55] <teatime> vahe: read the photorec documentation. you'll have to learn how to use it yourself.
• 959[07:20:01] <awal1> vahe man testdisk
• 960[07:20:08] <awal1> man photorec
• 961[07:20:22] <vahe> I have now in the eyes of the fog , can't read
• 962[07:20:23] <annadane> oh, right, live cd
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• 964[07:20:41] <vahe> psl if you can tell me step by step
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• 966[07:21:28] <awal1> you'll need an extra drive
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• 968[07:23:25] <vahe> awal1: I put the disc on the carrier it is now as USB flash drive
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• 973[07:30:13] <awal1> or you can recover to a separate partition if you are sure your system is bootable , vahe
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• 975[07:30:49] <awal1> long time I haven't used testdisk/photorec; not sure about steps, but it is very easy to use
• 976[07:31:02] <teatime> well, his system is not bootable, for sure. you mean "if you're sure you don't need to know your disk's partition layout". which you don't, for photorec.
• 977[07:31:06] <awal1> something like what is writen here vahe replaced-url
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• 980[07:32:06] <awal1> good luck vahe
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• 1005[08:02:11] <dka> Just a random question, if you would be on a website of a framework/librarie that look cool, but the domain is ending with ".vn" , would you download it or would you be reluctant regarding it's origin ?
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• 1021[08:12:50] <tw> so it's... not on github?
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• 1054[08:54:34] <Henry151> hi #debian
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• 1056[08:54:58] <Henry151> is there anything that ships with debian that would automatically disable password authentication after too many bad tries?
• 1057[08:55:20] <Henry151> I am running debian on a server and I had password auth enabled for SSH, and then it suddenly stopped working
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• 1061[08:56:20] <teatime> Henry151: installed by default? don't think so.
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• 1064[08:56:49] <Henry151> I look in my /var/logs/auth.log and i see a bunch of failed attempts from unrecognized IP's with random usernames, like they were trying to break in, guessing usernames like admin, bot1, cloud, vps, like they are just guessing
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• 1066[08:57:02] <teatime> Henry151: that's normal, it's exactly what it looks like
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• 1069[08:57:27] <teatime> Henry151: that's why it's so important to use good passwords, if you use passwords
• 1070[08:57:31] <Henry151> yeah. but what I can't understand is why my attempts to log in with password auth stopped working
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• 1074[09:00:06] <dolapevich> Hello there. I have a requirement to run a certain process when system is idle. ¿Any idea on how to do it without hacking around uptime output?
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• 1076[09:00:12] <Henry151> like, now when I try to ssh from somewhere that doesn't have the public-key auth setup, instead of prompting me for a password, it says "Permission denied (publickey)."
• 1077[09:00:54] <Henry151> it's a kimsufi VPS, maybe their version of debian has something that isn't standard with debian, that may have disabled it after too many bad attempts?
• 1078[09:01:18] <dolapevich> Henry151: Two options. Either you have more than three keys loaded in you agent and the matching key is after the fourth, or the remote server is configured to accept ssh key only and you don't have it.
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• 1080[09:02:20] <Henry151> dolapevich: that makes sense. However, as recently as this morning at 10am, I was able to login with password auth, and now i'm not
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• 1082[09:02:45] <Henry151> i looked at my /etc/ssh/ssh_config and /etc/ssh/sshd_config and nothing has been changed there
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• 1084[09:03:18] <Orfan> make a new folder in /root/
• 1085[09:03:26] <Orfan> mkdir.ssh
• 1086[09:03:29] <Orfan> cd .ssh
• 1087[09:03:30] <dolapevich> Henry151: try ssh -vv to see what the client is receiving.
• 1088[09:03:39] <Orfan> and put here ur rsa
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• 1091[09:04:34] <dolapevich> Henry151: if you have access to the receiving server you can copy and modify listening port on sshd_config and run sshd as sshd -d -f /path/to/sshd_config and see what is going on at the receiving side.
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• 1094[09:05:31] <teatime> Henry151: I k,now your problem.
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• 1098[09:06:01] <teatime> Henry151: "Permission denied (publickey)." This means it didn't even attempt password auth.
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• 1102[09:06:34] <teatime> Henry151: are you ssh'ing from a host where you *have* a public key, but that public key hasn't been added to the server, and you're expecting it to ask you the password?
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• 1104[09:07:02] <teatime> because, if it finds a public key, it will not then ask for a password even if the public key does not work. unless you specifically tell it to.
• 1105[09:07:24] <Henry151> teatime: no. I have been able to ssh from machines that don't have the public key
• 1106[09:07:32] <Henry151> i have configured it to allow password auth
• 1107[09:07:38] <teatime> Henry151: You can ssh from machines that don't have an ssh key setup.
• 1108[09:07:45] <Henry151> teatime: yes
• 1109[09:07:57] <teatime> Henry151: If you ssh from a machine where the user you're sshing FROM, DOES have a key, but NOT an authorized key,
• 1110[09:08:01] <teatime> it does exactly what you pasted
• 1111[09:08:14] <Henry151> ahh
• 1112[09:08:21] <Henry151> maybe i created a key and it is not an authorized key
• 1113[09:08:29] <teatime> unless you explicitly tell ssh command to ignore the key and use password instead
• 1114[09:08:32] <teatime> Henry151: exactly
• 1115[09:08:32] <Henry151> and so now it is trying with that key instead of trying with no key
• 1116[09:08:34] <Henry151> ok
• 1117[09:08:41] <Henry151> how do i tell it to try with no key?
• 1118[09:08:59] <teatime> 1 sec
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• 1121[09:09:28] <Henry151> i'm looking through my bash history on the server to see where i may have screwed it up..
• 1122[09:09:41] <Henry151> i did this line earlier today while messing with nginx: openssl req -x509 -nodes -days 365 -newkey rsa:2048 -keyout /etc/nginx/ssl/nginx.key -out /etc/nginx/ssl/nginx.crt
• 1123[09:09:53] <teatime> Henry151: probably: ssh -o PreferredAuthentications=keyboard-interactive host.example.com
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• 1125[09:10:00] <Henry151> i can't imagine that would have messed anything up
• 1126[09:10:08] <teatime> Henry151: correct, that has nothing to do with SSH keys.
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• 1128[09:11:16] <teatime> hrm I might be wrong actually
• 1129[09:11:22] <Henry151> hmm. the ssh -o etc line there still spits back "Permission denied (publickey)."
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• 1131[09:11:35] <dolapevich> I think it is -o PubkeyAuthentication=no
• 1132[09:11:37] <teatime> Henry151: how about: ssh -o PreferredAuthentications=keyboard-interactive,password -o PubkeyAuthentication=no host.example.org
• 1133[09:12:11] <teatime> I am definitely for the record wrong about something here, though.
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• 1135[09:13:32] <velix> Hmm, can anyone please update replaced-url
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• 1137[09:13:45] <velix> Is there stretch-backports-sloppy?
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• 1139[09:15:29] <Henry151> hm
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• 1141[09:16:03] <Henry151> well it is a mystery to me. The -o stuff didn't work; I also googled "ssh force password auth" and tried a couple similar lines
• 1142[09:16:06] <Henry151> nothing
• 1143[09:16:28] <teatime> ok. my apologies then, I am mis-remembering something in a bad way.
• 1144[09:16:32] <Henry151> but for the moment, my paranoid mind will rest easier with password auth disabled, so I've disabled it now in my sshd config
• 1145[09:16:46] <Henry151> until I can figure out how to make it work, no sene in having it enabled
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• 1149[09:17:09] <Henry151> i just don't grasp what broke it
• 1150[09:17:28] <Henry151> maybe kimsufi/OVH has some safety-feature builtin to their version of debian?
• 1151[09:17:51] <teatime> Henry151: perhaps when you added a key to authorized_keys on the server, that makes the server refuse to do password auth for that account, even if enabled. although I didn't think that was the case.
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• 1153[09:20:29] <teatime> Henry151: if you successfully manage to force disable keys, it would have started saying "(keyboard-interactive)" instead of "(publickey)".
• 1154[09:20:45] <teatime> Henry151: the stuff in () in your error message is the list of authentication methods tried.
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• 1161[09:25:23] <Rust3dCor3> Hi. I have a monitor that supports VGA and HDMI. I want to switch to HDMI. I got black screen when switching modes. The HDMI cable is connected to the GPU. lspci replaced-url
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• 1163[09:25:55] <teatime> Rust3dCor3: is there a VGA cable connected?
• 1164[09:26:00] <Rust3dCor3> yes
• 1165[09:26:17] <Rust3dCor3> teatime: I'm really doing this the first time
• 1166[09:26:29] <teatime> I mis-read your question anyway.
• 1167[09:27:14] <Rust3dCor3> teatime: VGA output is ok. But when i switch to HDMI output the screen is black. It's not turned off. Its just black
• 1168[09:27:57] <teatime> how do you "switch to HDMI" exactly, what are you doing?
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• 1170[09:28:13] <Rust3dCor3> teatime: I push the button on the monitor
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• 1173[09:28:32] <teatime> Rust3dCor3: per your xrandr, Linux thinks your HDMI is disconnected. so that's what you'd expect to happen.
• 1174[09:29:29] <teatime> Rust3dCor3: have you tried just booting up with the HDMI connected and the VGA disconnected? that will probably Just Work™, if it otherwise works for you.
• 1175[09:30:08] <Rust3dCor3> teatime: I'll try. brb
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• 1187[09:35:13] <Rust3dCor3> teatime: back. Only on hdmi output I have black screen even in bios
• 1188[09:35:49] <Rust3dCor3> teatime: can my cable/gpu-hdmi-slot be busted?
• 1189[09:36:06] <teatime> Rust3dCor3: heh, I almost asked you if they were. sure, possible I guess.
• 1190[09:36:18] <teatime> Rust3dCor3: I've had similar issues just from having a buggy monitor etc., though.
• 1191[09:36:30] <Rust3dCor3> teatime: I have another hdmi output on my pc case
• 1192[09:36:46] <Rust3dCor3> teatime: and I really have no idea if it is going to gpu or motherboard
• 1193[09:36:59] <teatime> Rust3dCor3: it might be easier if you had another HDMI-capable monitor to test with
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• 1195[09:37:08] <teatime> Rust3dCor3: so you could try connecting both
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• 1197[09:37:27] <teatime> Rust3dCor3: oh, interesting. well. try the other one?
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• 1199[09:37:45] <Rust3dCor3> teatime: also. a part of the hdmi slot on the gpu is covered by my pc case. dumb design. how deep the cable must be there to connect?
• 1200[09:37:57] <teatime> all the way, presumably..
• 1201[09:38:40] <bolt> you can normally shave off parts of the connector on the cable
• 1202[09:38:55] <bolt> there's a lot of plastic around the metal
• 1203[09:38:59] <Rust3dCor3> it's like 2 mm away
• 1204[09:39:08] <bolt> don't do this with your only hdmi cable
• 1205[09:39:12] <Rust3dCor3> ok
• 1206[09:39:17] <Rust3dCor3> I only have 1 hdmi cable
• 1207[09:39:20] <Rust3dCor3> and one monitor
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• 1209[09:39:33] <vergilzen> Rust3dCor3: or, if you have the option, get a better case.
• 1210[09:39:43] <bolt> that would of course be better
• 1211[09:40:05] <Rust3dCor3> the problem is only whit the gpu slot. everything else is ok
• 1212[09:40:12] <bolt> but the cheap route, if it's enough, would be to shave off the 2mm on the right or left or whatever side of the connector on the cable
• 1213[09:40:54] <bolt> if the case covers the actual hole, that's of course not an option
• 1214[09:40:56] <vergilzen> Right. For some reason I had the horrible 30+ dollar HDMI cables in my head.
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• 1216[09:41:46] <bolt> i have a few vga cables that are shaven like that. only one side with a screw, the other flush with the metal on the connector
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• 1219[09:42:38] <Rust3dCor3> damn. the plastic is hard
• 1220[09:43:05] <vergilzen> If you have a dremel, it migth help
• 1221[09:43:13] <vergilzen> s/migth/might/
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• 1224[09:44:09] <Rust3dCor3> im lucky that i have a military grade knife
• 1225[09:44:13] <Rust3dCor3> time to cut some fingers
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• 1239[09:52:55] <Rust3dCor3> fixed
• 1240[09:52:56] <Rust3dCor3> hdmi works
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• 1244[09:53:57] <teatime> Rust3dCor3: just needed plugged all the way in?
• 1245[09:54:35] <Rust3dCor3> fixed
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• 1247[09:54:37] <Rust3dCor3> hdmi works
• 1248[09:54:55] <Rust3dCor3> just removed all the plastic from the top
• 1249[09:55:02] <Rust3dCor3> and plug it in way in
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• 1251[09:56:28] <Rust3dCor3> now i got constant mesage about "Display: 2. Samsung Electric Company 24" " and he resolutian also there ... all the time
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• 1279[10:19:50] <xochilpili> hi all
• 1280[10:20:19] <xochilpili> i have a 2tb hd disk, how can i create 2 lvm partitions of 1tb each in the same hd?
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• 1290[10:25:48] <dolapevich> xochilpili: asuming you hdd is at /dev/sdb, pvcreate /dev/sdb && vgcreate mynicevg /dev/sdb && lvcreate -n nicevol00 -L 500G mynicevg && lvcreate -n nicevol01 -L 500G mynicevg
• 1291[10:25:55] <dolapevich> that would do.
• 1292[10:26:09] <dolapevich> sorry, replace 500G with 1T, or the needed size.
• 1293[10:26:38] <dolapevich> you do not need partitions, that is the nice thing about lvm
• 1294[10:27:44] <teatime> although if you really did mean partitions, lvm can do that too, because it's super nice
• 1295[10:28:07] <dolapevich> Agreed.
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• 1308[10:38:30] <erkana> Hello guys, is this a good place to ask a few questions about debian installation?
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• 1310[10:39:19] <erkana> "/msg dpkg guidelines"
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• 1312[10:39:42] <eck> dont ask to ask, just ask
• 1313[10:41:37] <erkana> I tried gnome live version and noticed wifi wasn't detected, using intel 3165, do I have to install 3rd party driver for it to work?
• 1314[10:42:08] <erkana> second question is, what repo's ppl add after installing?
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• 1317[10:42:22] <xochilpili> hi all
• 1318[10:42:22] <eck> i would expect intel wifi to work out of the box
• 1319[10:42:25] <eck> erkana: replaced-url
• 1320[10:42:32] <eck> that has instructions to install the firmware
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• 1322[10:43:03] <eck> the issue is the firmware is you need to enable the non-free repos because the firmware isn't free software
• 1323[10:43:30] <velix> Does "dget -x replaced-url
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• 1325[10:43:49] <xochilpili> im trying to mount a hd partition using fstab (but i want to set permissions to me) i have /dev/sdb1 /mnt/data ext4 rw,user,exec,umask=000 0 0 (but got an error) if i remove umask works, but touch /mnt/data/sample (from my user) got permission denied
• 1326[10:44:16] <xochilpili> i dont want to use chmod +w ... just from fstab, is that possible ?
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• 1328[10:44:57] <babilen> dpkg: firmware image
• 1329[10:44:57] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See replaced-url
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• 1331[10:45:07] <babilen> erkana: Note that you can get installer images with firmware ^^^
• 1332[10:45:27] <babilen> (and don't use the live image for installations)
• 1333[10:45:34] <clone23> ever try antix
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• 1335[10:46:17] <clone23> or endless
• 1336[10:46:41] <bolt> what does this mean? "WPA: event 2 notification" (from hostapd)
• 1337[10:46:46] <babilen> erkana: You also shouldn't have to add any additional repositories. Might want to read replaced-url
• 1338[10:46:55] <erkana> thanks for the answers, 3rd question will be a bit noobie, maybe annoying sorry for that: why should i choose debian over ubuntu? or why you choose it?
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• 1341[10:47:38] <eck> bolt: probably harmless, but that would be a better question for the hostapd developers
• 1342[10:48:06] <babilen> erkana: Debian has been around for a long time, is easy to upgrade, technically excellent and the community is amazing.
• 1343[10:49:15] <eck> i use debian because it's a lot more stable than ubuntu
• 1344[10:49:32] <eck> and a lot of the stuff in ubuntu is actually backported from debian anyway
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• 1346[10:52:57] <misty5> hi
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• 1349[10:53:23] <misty5> last time I used debian and ubuntu apt-get was what you'd use to update things. But that has changed now?
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• 1351[10:53:52] <eck> nope, nor has it changed in the last 20 years
• 1352[10:54:10] <misty5> "use apt instead" I've heard
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• 1354[10:54:16] <misty5> or "use aptitude" or something like that
• 1355[10:54:20] <eck> they're equivalent
• 1356[10:54:24] <eck> well
• 1357[10:54:32] <eck> apt and apt-get are equivalent, apt just has a slightly different output format
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• 1359[10:54:42] <eck> aptitude is a little different
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• 1362[10:55:36] <erkana> aright thanks :)
• 1363[10:55:55] <eck> i use apt-get because i'm old and fear change
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• 1366[10:59:28] <erkana> is it possible to completely power off discrete graphics card on nvidia optimus based notebooks (unfortunately there is no such an option in bios)
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• 1370[10:59:57] <eck> weird that there's no bios option
• 1371[11:00:27] <eck> i don't know for sure but my guess would be if the nvidia kernel module isn't loaded the card would be powered off
• 1372[11:02:01] <misty5> eck: are we supposed to use something else? or are they doing the same things anyway?
• 1373[11:02:09] <misty5> eck: I mean to "get with the times"
• 1374[11:02:17] <eck> use apt
• 1375[11:02:40] <eck> i think the only difference between apt-get and apt is that apt has colorized output by default, and maybe a more modern looking progress meter
• 1376[11:02:54] <eck> so if you're not in the habit of typing apt-get like me you might as well use that
• 1377[11:03:24] <eck> the main advantage of aptitude was that it tracked unneeded packages, but apt/apt-get do that nowadays
• 1378[11:03:50] <pingfloyd> pretty much
• 1379[11:04:00] <pingfloyd> and you can use them both without problems these days too
• 1380[11:04:43] <pingfloyd> there was a time when mixing the two would create problems
• 1381[11:04:51] <pingfloyd> mixing usage
• 1382[11:05:34] <eck> there are some minor differences with aptitude like how downgrading works, but as a regular user you are unlikely to encounter that
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• 1390[11:09:32] <teatime> eck: apt search is a lot different from apt-cache search and aptitude search (which are more similar to each other)
• 1391[11:10:06] <eck> the great thing about debian is you have so many slightly different ways to do exactly the same thing
• 1392[11:10:09] <teatime> eck: I usually do 'aptitude search' because it only searches package names by default. apt search returns tons of extraneous stuff. however, 'apt search' *is* better if I don't know the name of the package I"m looking for
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• 1394[11:11:07] <teatime> like, I would do 'apt search dns' to find all kinds of tools and utilities vaguely related to dns, but I would do 'aptitude search network-manager-' if I want to see network manager plugins.
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• 1396[11:13:16] <teatime> eck: and I'd have to also say, the main advantage of aptitude was always resolving difficult/conflicting dependencies. or talk about how much stuff you can search/query with it. but I guess I'm a bit of a fanboy.
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• 1398[11:13:55] <eck> i just use packages.debian.org like a homunculus
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• 1400[11:17:43] <pingfloyd> its search query is more complicated than it needs to be
• 1401[11:17:57] <teatime> pingfloyd: the website's?
• 1402[11:18:01] <pingfloyd> aptitude
• 1403[11:18:25] <pingfloyd> I can't remember when I've ever not been able to find something with apt-cache and/or apt-file
• 1404[11:18:26] <teatime> ah. well, it usually takes me a moment to find the documentation, which I consider required to search for anything other than package names. so maybe you're right.
• 1405[11:18:39] <teatime> but then, it can do tons of stuff you can't do with any other tool, or at least that I never learned how to.
• 1406[11:18:51] <teatime> I'm sure there's at least 40 apt-* commands I have never ran
• 1407[11:18:55] <pingfloyd> yeah, exactly
• 1408[11:19:05] <pingfloyd> requires reference unless you've used it religiously for ages
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• 1410[11:19:23] <pingfloyd> apt-cache narrows it down enough
• 1411[11:19:32] <pingfloyd> and from there you can alway pipe through grep
• 1412[11:19:36] <teatime> pingfloyd: like, one that immediately springs to mind, is aptitude search "~o"
• 1413[11:19:45] <teatime> show packages that are installed but not available from any configured repo
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• 1418[11:20:54] <pingfloyd> the funny thing is I started off with aptitude
• 1419[11:21:04] <pingfloyd> read through its long manual way way back
• 1420[11:21:07] <eck> the old ways are the best ways
• 1421[11:21:34] <trusty> i agree mate
• 1422[11:21:39] <pingfloyd> I think apt-get and friends is actually the older way
• 1423[11:21:46] <pingfloyd> between the two
• 1424[11:21:48] <teatime> I do a *lot* of package list / repo / etc. hacking on both apt and rpm distros though, or used to anyway
• 1425[11:22:00] <teatime> pingfloyd: correct, it def. is.
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• 1428[11:22:42] <teatime> aptitude project probably started just like the apt one, "Hey, let's make apt-get etc. way more user-friendly / usable!"
• 1429[11:22:55] <pingfloyd> yeah
• 1430[11:23:01] <pingfloyd> and add synaptic to that list
• 1431[11:23:05] <teatime> ... and now it's over complicated. lol :)
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• 1433[11:23:28] <eck> funny how all the debian tools are completely ossified
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• 1435[11:23:43] <teatime> although one day some one here tried to tell me I probably like aptitude because it's more friendly to windows-type people, lol.
• 1436[11:23:45] <pingfloyd> the low levels apt-commands you just have to know which one you need. They're more inline with unix tenet
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• 1438[11:24:05] <eck> the rationale for introducing apt was they wanted to change the output format of apt-get, but were worried that there would be shell scripts that depended on the exact output format
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• 1442[11:24:35] <eck> meanwhile redhat/fedora has changed up2date, yum, dnf, etc. without much issue
• 1443[11:24:39] <pingfloyd> good, because the apt suite should be around forever
• 1444[11:24:40] <teatime> pingfloyd: aptitude should be in the toolbox though for un-breaking dependencies apt/apt-get can't figure out though. at least. it's critical to my workflow, for that. doing it the other way takes hundreds of times as long or more.
• 1445[11:24:59] <teatime> and I'd say for some weird/difficult searches too, but perhaps that's more a personal problem.
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• 1447[11:25:03] <eck> dpkg should be around forever, i'm not sure that i agree that the apt-* commands should never be allowed to change; but of course, that's just my opinion
• 1448[11:25:03] <dpkg> eck: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request
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• 1450[11:26:10] <eck> e.g. i can't imagine what kind of monster of a script you'd have where you'd be using apt-get in interactive mode and not checking the exit status
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• 1452[11:26:21] <eck> seems like a pretty fringe use case to me
• 1453[11:27:48] <pingfloyd> "gdebi pkg" vs "dpkg -i pkg ; apt-get -f install"
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• 1455[11:28:22] <eck> TIL about gdebi
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• 1458[11:29:00] <teatime> isn't there now a syntax for {apt,apt-get,aptitude} that lets you install a local .deb file + grab its dependencies from the repos, in one command/step ?
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• 1460[11:29:10] <teatime> I could swear I found that recently, but now cannot.
• 1461[11:29:21] <pingfloyd> I know there was talk of that
• 1462[11:29:32] <teatime> and it's always seemed like something that should exist.
• 1463[11:29:33] <pingfloyd> not sure if at a certain version they do that or not
• 1464[11:29:49] <pingfloyd> I'm still on Jessie
• 1465[11:29:55] <eck> sorry to hear that
• 1466[11:29:59] <pingfloyd> why?
• 1467[11:30:14] <eck> it's so old
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• 1476[11:46:05] <n4dir> depends what software you use.
• 1477[11:47:56] <jesopo> I got a notification from haveibeenpwned that my email address had appeared in a pastebin. turns out it was my username@hostname and it was a dump of all the username@hostnames from this channel
• 1478[11:48:10] <jesopo> not sure if that's of interest but thought I'd mention it
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• 1481[11:48:39] <jesopo> I narrowed it down to here from whoising some people to see what channels I shared
• 1482[11:48:43] <eck> if you're writing c++ (as i am), it is very old
• 1483[11:48:53] <eck> i need that new new gcc
• 1484[11:49:27] <teatime> jesopo: it's essentially public information already; I assume anything I say here, for example, will haunt me forever. but I get why you'd pass that info along.
• 1485[11:49:51] <jesopo> indeed!
• 1486[11:49:53] <jesopo> :)
• 1487[11:50:34] <eck> reason #999 to use a mask
• 1488[11:50:52] <jesopo> I'm not concerned at all about my hostname being in that list
• 1489[11:51:00] <jesopo> but I can imagine why someone would be.
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• 1492[11:51:28] <eck> i'm more concerned by the people using irc clients that give out their full first and last name by default
• 1493[11:51:33] <jesopo> true.
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• 1495[11:51:46] <jesopo> I'm concerned about people having accounts on computers using their full names
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• 1497[11:52:01] <teatime> eck: I never put my name into GECOS for that reason, heh.
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• 1500[11:52:19] <teatime> and stuff like image editors that put your user's name into EXIF data, etc.
• 1501[11:52:20] <eck> yup
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• 1503[11:52:30] <eck> GECOS is from a different era
• 1504[11:52:58] <eck> back when it made sense to look up the office number of someone using the same shared unix system as you
• 1505[11:53:06] <teatime> I've even started using <a random letter> for my username, and keeping my clock set to UTC.
• 1506[11:53:09] <teatime> that is probably overkill.
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• 1509[11:54:02] <eck> every once in a while when i'm worried about that stuff i boot into tails, but that's not too often
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• 1519[11:58:12] <plop1342> Hi
• 1520[11:58:23] <jesopo> teatime: that's a little overkill but if it makes you feel better, why not?
• 1521[11:58:25] <jesopo> :P
• 1522[11:58:34] <plop1342> Whatever the timezone, the date timestamp should be the same in all servers even if one is in US / France / Australia?
• 1523[11:58:46] <plop1342> is that right or wrong?
• 1524[11:58:54] <jesopo> plop1342: personal preference
• 1525[11:59:08] <plop1342> what is your "date +%s" for example?
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• 1527[11:59:15] <teatime> plop1342: not sure what you mean by "the date timestamp", but individual users can use whatever TZ they like. and then there's a default one for the system.
• 1528[11:59:37] <plop1342> teatime: I mean "date +%s" => that is independant to timezone, or dependant?
• 1529[11:59:39] <teatime> plop1342: ah, you mean unix time?
• 1530[11:59:42] <plop1342> yes
• 1531[11:59:46] <teatime> plop1342: it's UTC, yes.
• 1532[11:59:54] <teatime> seconds since 00:00 January 1, 1970 UTC
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• 1535[12:00:14] <plop1342> teatime: so I should have the same unix time (integer) than you, whatever the timezone difference between us?
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• 1540[12:00:43] <plop1342> on my french based server I have 1516446035
• 1541[12:00:48] <jesopo> ah, misunderstanding on my part
• 1542[12:01:03] <plop1342> but on my US based VPS I have now exactly 1516438810
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• 1545[12:01:44] <plop1342> that's why my question: is the difference ok because of different TZ, or should the unix time be the same everywhre in the world at a given t0 ?
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• 1549[12:03:03] <teatime> %s seconds since 1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
• 1550[12:03:18] <teatime> from 'date' manpage. should be the same everywhere. your clock is wrong in France :)
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• 1558[12:08:16] <plop1342> it's the one in US which is wrong, right?
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• 1560[12:08:40] <plop1342> teatime: is your unix time close to 1516446035 or 1516438810?
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• 1562[12:09:41] <teatime> plop1342: neither, actually. the first is closer. they're both off by a good bit.
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• 1564[12:09:48] <teatime> plop1342: just install ntpdate and run it on both machines
• 1565[12:09:54] <teatime> 'ntpdate time.apple.com' or whatever
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• 1568[12:10:06] <plop1342> yeah i did it but the US based one is a VPS and I get
• 1569[12:10:17] <plop1342> date: operation not permitted
• 1570[12:10:27] <plop1342> so it seems I have to ask the VPS provider :/
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• 1572[12:12:01] <plop1342> Or is there a trick to change date on a OpenVZ VPS?
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• 1601[12:23:51] <hundfred> what is the golden way to create a live debian usb stick with crypted permanent settings?
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• 1648[12:54:57] <alkisg> hundfred: why don't you just install debian to a usb stick?
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• 1661[12:58:18] <mum0l> hi guys! I'm trying to download current version of the package, but I fail.. Any ideas? (debian wheezy): replaced-url
• 1662[12:58:45] <gpunk> apt-update ?
• 1663[12:58:54] <mum0l> did it before
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• 1683[13:08:14] <mum0l> gpunk: sadly the same, but I changed only main repo, I cant find mirror for security.debian.org - and I supose this package will be there
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• 1725[13:31:10] <gpunk> for example ext FS is tunable: please see man tune2fs
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• 1750[13:41:30] <alkisg> mum0l: can you paste the whole output of apt-cache policy package, instead of also putting | grep?
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• 1755[13:46:54] <gpunk> !bat
• 1756[13:46:54] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
• 1757[13:46:57] <misty5> gpunk: that's where I got the tunable word in the first place
• 1758[13:47:11] <misty5> I see what they mean, but I think the choice of word is weird
• 1759[13:47:20] <gpunk> why ?
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• 1763[13:49:46] <gpunk> because it stated wint ext2 ...
• 1764[13:49:53] <gpunk> started*
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• 1773[13:53:57] <teatime> misty5: it makes sense to me, when you think about how much people talk about tuning system TCP parameters, tuning a database, etc.
• 1774[13:54:03] <mum0l> alkisg: sure - replaced-url
• 1775[13:54:10] <teatime> misty5: same kind of 'large number of low-level configurables most people never care about'
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• 1778[13:54:38] <misty5> hmm yeah, maybe
• 1779[13:54:49] <misty5> So what does it mean when you mount something without ACL? Will the ACL rules just be ignored and give you access?
• 1780[13:54:57] <teatime> yes, I beleive so.
• 1781[13:55:08] <alkisg> mum0l: the versions you see in the sites are downloadable. The version you have locally is not (with those repositories)
• 1782[13:55:37] <alkisg> So you can download 3.2.96-2 and 3.2.78-1, with your current sources.list
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• 1786[13:56:41] <mum0l> alkisg: yeah, and that's the issue ;/ AFAIK last time I run upgrade, but forgot to restart server after kernel upgrade, and now, new release comes and I want to upgrade it, but sadly I do not have current kernel in grub, so I am scaried, that after upgrade in case sth go wrong, I wll have no option to restore ...
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• 1788[13:57:18] <alkisg> mum0l: I'm not sure what you mean "current kernel in grub", if you run `update-grub` it puts entries there for all kernels
• 1789[13:57:26] <alkisg> You don't need the .deb for that
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• 1791[13:58:56] <mum0l> yeah, but when I run apt-get upgrade, and install new kernel, the old one will be removed.. that how it was last time..
• 1792[13:59:16] <alkisg> That doesn't sound right...
• 1793[13:59:21] <mum0l> this is produciton, so I must be 100% sure that I've option for recovery
• 1794[13:59:35] <mum0l> thats why I wanted to download current kernel
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• 1796[14:00:39] <mum0l> also today I google a bit, and find two options which might helped me - "APT::Get::AutomaticRemove "0"; and APT::Get::HideAutoRemove "1";" so I set it up in apt.conf. But still, I am not 100% sure that will work
• 1797[14:00:44] <dvs> mum0l, you can have more than one kernel installed
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• 1799[14:01:11] <themill> mum0l: what's the output of "uname -a"?
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• 1801[14:01:44] <alkisg> mum0l: if you run `apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64=3.2.89-2`, it gets marked as manually installed, and it won't ever be autoremoved
• 1802[14:01:49] <mum0l> themill: Linux myhost.com 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.88-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux
• 1803[14:02:13] <themill> so that is none of the packages that is listed there by apt-cache
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• 1806[14:02:57] <themill> That kernel package has been upgraded to a newer version (and there are two newer versions beyond that too)
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• 1810[14:03:59] <mum0l> yeah, so what would you suggest to preform 100% safe kernel upgrade in my case? "safe - I mean to keep current kernel in grub just in case"
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• 1812[14:04:49] <dvs> mum0l, install the current kernel, manually, by it's exact version number.
• 1813[14:05:02] <themill> getting it from snapshot.debian.org
• 1814[14:05:20] <themill> The kernel package you should be installing is linux-image-3.2.0-5-amd64, that will leave the -4- package in place.
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• 1817[14:05:56] <themill> (You cannot have more than version of a package installed at the same time; the kernel ABI happened to change last week amongst all the silliness so there is a different package name from the latest update)
• 1818[14:06:47] <mum0l> dvs: sadly I can't find my currnet kernel on snapshot.debian.org..
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• 1820[14:07:38] <themill> mum0l: why not?
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• 1824[14:08:06] <themill> replaced-url
• 1825[14:08:13] <dvs> mum0l, wallah!
• 1826[14:08:38] <Guyom> Join #kali-linux
• 1827[14:08:46] <dvs> no!
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• 1829[14:09:01] <mum0l> thanks! I must did some wrong search before..
• 1830[14:09:21] <ecbrown> On stretch, wondering how to change the gitlab port from 443 to something else...
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• 1833[14:09:57] <ecbrown> doesn't seem like the config files are the same as what they would be if installed manually
• 1834[14:10:05] <mum0l> so now I just need eto install new kernel with dpkg -i linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64_3.2.88-1_amd64.deb, and than run apt-get upgrade, and finally grub-update - yes?
• 1835[14:11:00] <dvs> mum0l, no, it's update before upgrade
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• 1842[14:12:06] <mum0l> dvs: ok, so: dpkg -i linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64_3.2.88-1_amd64.deb;apt-get update;apt-get upgrade;grub-update - corrent now?
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• 1847[14:12:51] <dvs> mum0l, grub-update is automatically run when you install a kernel package.
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• 1849[14:13:26] <mum0l> dvs: yeah it should, but previously it was removing my old kernels, lets see how it goes this time
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• 1852[14:13:41] <mum0l> and many thanks for your help guys - appreciate that!
• 1853[14:13:44] <themill> mum0l: upgrade is not what you want ehre
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• 1855[14:14:06] <themill> (not unless you've got something to stop that particular kernel being upgraded)
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• 1857[14:14:25] <themill> mum0l: also note that the old kernel is not being removed, it is being replaced.
• 1858[14:14:30] <mum0l> themill: yeah I know, but anyways I need to upgrade few more packages, so I will do at today @night
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• 1864[14:19:16] <fakefur> hi guys can you point me at the page where the status of incoming packages is shown for debian? i have tried to find it since yesterday but to no avail
• 1865[14:19:18] <fakefur> thanks
• 1866[14:19:46] <themill> What do you mean by "status" and "incoming"?
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• 1868[14:20:16] <themill> What information are you looking for
• 1869[14:20:24] <fakefur> themill, there is a package status page for all packages
• 1870[14:20:35] <fakefur> i was on it a week or 2 ago but cannot find it now
• 1871[14:20:43] <themill> define status in a way that doesn't use the word status....
• 1872[14:21:04] <coruja> fakefur, replaced-url
• 1873[14:21:11] <fakefur> themill, what versions are in the build pipelines and when they will be moved into whatever distro
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• 1875[14:21:36] <fakefur> coruja, no it was an html page but thanks
• 1876[14:22:09] <themill> fakefur: buildd.debian.org
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• 1879[14:22:48] <fakefur> themill, no that's not it but thanks
• 1880[14:23:20] <themill> fakefur: perhaps you could explain what it is you're actually looking for then
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• 1883[14:23:55] <fakefur> themill, well i wanted to see when the kernel patches for meltdown and spectre will be in the testing kernel
• 1884[14:24:20] <themill> oh, that's easy
• 1885[14:24:32] <themill> replaced-url
• 1886[14:24:48] <themill> asking for what you want is much easier to answer
• 1887[14:25:18] <fakefur> thats the page thanks and yes lesson learned - thanks
• 1888[14:25:21] <fakefur> :)
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• 1890[14:25:39] <themill> and it's already in testing
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• 1892[14:26:34] <fakefur> themill, i read a post by GKH who said there should be a "vulnerabilities" folder in the /sys/devices/... location
• 1893[14:26:44] <fakefur> but it still isn't there in the latest debian update
• 1894[14:26:53] <fakefur> is debian not going to use that method?
• 1895[14:27:02] <themill> What kernel are you running?
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• 1897[14:27:18] <themill> (uname -v)
• 1898[14:27:26] <fakefur> 4.14.0-3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.14.13-1 (2018-01-14) x86_64 GNU/Linux
• 1899[14:27:30] <fakefur> ooops -a
• 1900[14:28:16] <themill> that contains the fixes; that new stuff in /sys might be 4.15 onwards iirc
• 1901[14:28:25] <fakefur> ah ok that makes sense
• 1902[14:28:28] <fakefur> thanks again
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• 2010[15:27:47] <Brigo> relaxedmyfriend, this is a support channel, if you want to chan go to #debian-offtopic.
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• 2046[15:46:14] <dka> I want to catch the filename in this regexp, replaced-url
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• 2066[16:01:37] <n4dir> dka: what is the filename? GandiStandard* ?
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• 2069[16:03:35] <n4dir> anyway you will probably want "parameter expansion" or the command "basename" (but i think some advice against it's usage, and prefer parameter expansion) replaced-url
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• 2082[16:08:47] <uniqdom> Hello, I'm currently using cryptsetup to encrypt a partition. This package needs to be installed as it doesn't come in the base system. Is there another package to encrypt/decrypt partitions that is already in the base system or it is in Debian LiveCD?
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• 2090[16:11:52] <n4dir> I don't think there is any encryption tool for partitions in the base system or the debian live CD, uniqdom
• 2091[16:12:43] <teatime> there is almost nothing in the "base system". I would be surprised if cryptsetup were *not* on a livecd, rhought.
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• 2094[16:13:36] <n4dir> surprises is what debian live is known for :-)
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• 2096[16:14:10] <teatime> uniqdom: cryptsetup may technically be optional, but it's the obvious default thing to use.
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• 2099[16:15:42] <teatime> uniqdom: like, debian installer can make encrypted partitions for you, and if you do that, I'm sure you find cryptsetup on your system afterwards.
• 2100[16:15:53] <teatime> I don't remember ever having to manually install it anywhere.
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• 2115[16:20:38] <teatime> like, for example, the live-boot and initramfs-tools packages both depend on cryptsetup. and it looks like all the kernel packages depend on initramfs-tools. so. if you have linux installed on your debian system, you'll have cryptsetup.
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• 2118[16:21:46] <teatime> hrm, sorry, those don't depend on it; one suggests it.
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• 2165[16:46:52] <jfmcarreira> heyyy guys
• 2166[16:47:02] <jfmcarreira> how can i add a new application to debian repositories?
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• 2177[16:49:30] <n4dir> !rfp
• 2178[16:49:30] <dpkg> Request For Package (RFP) is the way to ask for a piece of software to be included in Debian. See replaced-url
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• 2192[16:58:30] <DPA> If I want to port debian or a derivate of it to a different architecture, where can I find Documentation on how to do such things?
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• 2195[17:00:46] <n4dir> DPA: you could *try* if debian embedded has any further links replaced-url
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• 2201[17:07:13] <jfmcarreira> i am trying to request for a package, which I will be willing to package as I am the upstream.
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• 2203[17:07:31] <jfmcarreira> should this be the email sent: replaced-url
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• 2210[17:09:00] <clumsy_boy> hello i have a question, im currently using KDE Plasma as DE, i want to know how to run a script everytime i *boot* the computer (not log in), any suggestions? some sites on the internet say to edit /etc/rc.local, however i dont have this
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• 2212[17:10:32] <n4dir> jfmcarreira: i don't know more about RFP stuff. Thing is: I wouldn't hold my breath. If you are upstream, a better approach might be trying to get in contact with one of the debian sub-projects (say debian-python, or perl, or whatever)
• 2213[17:10:45] <n4dir> else the bug report might end in no-mans-land for years.
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• 2215[17:11:15] <n4dir> did that make any sense? i am tired as hell (and not a native speaker)
• 2216[17:11:36] <jfmcarreira> yeah got it clearly :D
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• 2219[17:11:46] <jfmcarreira> i should look for such dev
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• 2221[17:12:05] <n4dir> Yup. Something with direct contact (most sub-projects have their own channels, i think)
• 2222[17:12:32] <n4dir> sending the RFP won't hurt, of course, but i wouldn't hold my breath
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• 2226[17:14:49] <jfmcarreira> this is a qt based application maybe i should look for qt devs? or maybe multimedia as this is a video player (for raw video)
• 2227[17:15:22] <DPA> I've found what I was looking for, it seams like I just need to get buildd to work with my toolchain. Thanks everyone, bye.
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• 2239[17:22:04] <n4dir> jfmcarreira: i would just try qt. I don't think it matters that much, but in this channel (#debian) chances are very low (as far i can tell)
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• 2269[17:34:48] <NeeB> I am having some issues with Kali Linux. Live boot stops at "Started User Manager for UID 0.", I can hear the fans going off sometimes. Live boot failsafe manages to boot but my cursor won't move. I tried live booting Fedora too, similar issue, same line is where it stops. I tried installing Kali but it just black screens after the login screen. What else can I try to attempt to fix this?
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• 2275[17:36:21] <annadane> !kali
• 2276[17:36:21] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
• 2277[17:36:26] <annadane> NeeB, ^
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• 2279[17:37:05] <NeeB> k, I'm a noob, don't mind me, thanks
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• 2335[18:04:49] <velix> Wow, interesting warning: Warning 1: The '' extension is not allowed by the GPKG specification, which may cause compatibility problems
• 2336[18:04:55] <velix> sorry, wrong c hannel
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• 2441[19:03:01] <misty5> what happens if you use two PAM modules to set the password (ignore use_authok)? Is it like defined or something? I've done test but don't quite remember the result since it didn't make too much sense.
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• 2454[19:10:31] <fasdfd> Why do folders have execute permissions by default?
• 2455[19:10:46] <eck> directories not folders
• 2456[19:11:36] <eck> if you don't have execute permissions on a directory you can't enter it
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• 2459[19:13:50] <metastable> fasdfd: On directories, the execute permission actually means "traversal," i.e. you can 'cd' to it and read its contents.
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• 2461[19:14:13] <metastable> misty5: What do you mean, use two pam modules?
• 2462[19:14:18] <fasdfd> I see.
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• 2464[19:15:28] <misty5> metastable: e.g. using unix_pam.so twice for the update of the password. But I meant not using it twice for the same thing, but using two different modules for the same thing (the update of the password done twice)
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• 2467[19:15:43] <metastable> misty5: May I ask what you're trying to accomplish?
• 2468[19:15:45] <misty5> metastable: in a pam configuration file.
• 2469[19:15:56] <fasdfd> Why is almost every file on the system readable by anyone by default (including services that are run by their respective nobody users)? Isn't this not very secure?
• 2470[19:16:02] <misty5> metastable: I wonder what'd happen if you did that mistake of using two incompatible pam modules
• 2471[19:16:12] <misty5> metastable: or rather two modules that are trying to do the same thing
• 2472[19:16:15] <eck> fasdfd: what would the security risk be?
• 2473[19:16:25] <eck> the files that are sensitive are not world readable, but most files are not sensitive
• 2474[19:16:29] <metastable> fasdfd: A file being readable isn't inherently a security risk, if those files don't contain sensitive data.
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• 2476[19:17:55] <eck> fasdfd: when you do want to protect a file a more common practice is to set an ancestor directory to mode 700, e.g. this is done by default for user home directories on a number of distros
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• 2478[19:18:03] <fasdfd> eck, if someone exploits a security hole in a service I run, they can scan the filesystem. metastable, configuration files seem sensitive to me, files belonging to respective packages (one knows what packages I have, what versions, what services I run)
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• 2482[19:18:31] <eck> the files that are sensitive should not be world readable
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• 2484[19:18:45] <metastable> fasdfd: "seem" does not mean "is."
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• 2486[19:19:21] <fasdfd> should I just change permissions of such files myself?
• 2487[19:19:31] <metastable> fasdfd: Much of the information you're concerned about can be discovered without even viewing your filesystem. If someone is able to compromise a network service, the fact that they can read insensitive files isn't more of a security issue.
• 2488[19:19:33] <eck> probably not
• 2489[19:20:17] <metastable> fasdfd: I would strongly suggest that you don't go changing permissions without a VERY clear reason to do so. You will break your system, and we will likely be... hesitant to help you repair it.
• 2490[19:20:27] <eck> people can also figure out what versions of things are on your system by seeing what binaries are installed
• 2491[19:20:39] <eck> and you can't take away read permissions on that, since you need to be able to run those binaries
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• 2496[19:21:49] <fasdfd> eck, I don't need to be able to run them, fe. a postgres user will be fine with just psql, createuser etc.
• 2497[19:21:58] <eck> right
• 2498[19:22:06] <eck> which is why you have a dedicated postgres user usually
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• 2501[19:22:40] <eck> debian does by default anyway
• 2502[19:22:44] <DR3D> hello all does this room cover kali??
• 2503[19:22:48] <metastable> !kali
• 2504[19:22:48] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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• 2506[19:23:24] <DR3D> thanks
• 2507[19:23:28] <uto> hi
• 2508[19:23:33] <metastable> fasdfd: You do recognize that anyone able to compromise a service, and therefore the account running that service, could simply copy to your system any binary they wanted, reglardless of your system's configuration, yes?
• 2509[19:23:44] <eck> and you probably underestimate how much of your system postgres needs access to
• 2510[19:24:01] <metastable> fasdfd: Your approach to security is not going to result in any positive changes, and you are guaranteed to cause problems, not least because of what eck just said.,
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• 2513[19:25:18] <eck> usually sensitive data is put in /var/lib
• 2514[19:25:31] <eck> directories there are often readable only by a specific user
• 2515[19:25:42] <eck> for instance, that's where postgres' data directory will go
• 2516[19:25:47] <eck> so apache or nginx can't read the postgres data files
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• 2518[19:25:52] <metastable> MySQL, mail directories, etc.
• 2519[19:26:00] <eck> all of the stuff in /usr and /lib is considered to be non-sensitive
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• 2521[19:26:12] <eck> for things in /etc, it depends on what the package is
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• 2523[19:26:55] <metastable> Yes, /usr, /lib, /bin, /sbin, and so on. Certain things in /etc will be restricted, usually password or key data.
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• 2525[19:28:56] <eck> "man 7 hier" if you are interested in learning more
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• 2527[19:29:44] <fasdfd> thanks, I will
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• 2529[19:30:50] <fasdfd> so if a package I use needs a hook script, I should make such a script and not change any permissions or set it to just the least needed?
• 2530[19:31:03] <p3lim> is there a firewall enabled by default on debian?
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• 2532[19:31:22] <metastable> p3lim: No. iptables is of course built in, but there is no default configuration. Some utilities exist to simplify this, such as ufw.
• 2533[19:31:39] <p3lim> alright
• 2534[19:32:07] <p3lim> having issues with rtorrent in a docker container, which works fine on my windows machine
• 2535[19:32:15] <eck> you just need to make sure the package can read/execute the script. which may mean that it can't live in your home directory, if you don't want the program to read other stuff in ~
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• 2540[19:32:41] <eck> depends if the package is already running as your uid or not
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• 2545[19:33:19] <eck> i don't think it's in debian stable, but if you want to play around with filesystem sandboxing i've been very pleased with replaced-url
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• 2563[19:41:40] <fasdfd> eck, I run dehydrated as user dehydrated, but keep its configs and the hook script (when created by root its default permissions is -rw-r--r-- root root) in root-owned /etc/dehydrated (debian default location, but debian runs that as root), what permissions would you choose for this? changing the owner to dehydrated and chmod 544, root-owned chmod 711, dehydrated-owned chmod 100?
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• 2565[19:42:45] <eck> the rationale for having it 644 root:root is that only the root user can change its configs, i.e. dehydrated isn't allowed to change itself
• 2566[19:43:01] <eck> it would be a problem if it could change itself if there was an rce vuln for instance
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• 2568[19:43:30] <fasdfd> so better to keep it root owned then
• 2569[19:43:34] <eck> i think so
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• 2573[19:44:16] <eck> but dehydrated does need to read its configs
• 2574[19:44:22] <eck> so it has to be at least readable by itself
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• 2576[19:44:36] <fasdfd> I'd only change the permissions on the hook script
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• 2578[19:44:52] <fasdfd> because that's the only file that gives errors right now
• 2579[19:45:00] <eck> the thing is, it's probably not a problem if other processes can look at the dehyrated configs (as long as they can't read the generated data), but if you make the permissions too restrictive you're going to make it so you need to use sudo to look at the configs, which will get annoying
• 2580[19:45:48] <fasdfd> I see, I use su - at the moment, but heard sudo is better for security (on my todo list)
• 2581[19:46:01] <eck> if you work at a bug company that uses puppet/chef you'll run into this, where people go overboard changing files to have permissions 600 and then you end up having to use sudo all the time which is arguable worse for security
• 2582[19:46:49] <metastable> Whether or not sudo is actually better for security is a matter of some debate. But that's a completely different discussion.
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• 2585[19:47:21] <eck> either way it's bad if you are typing su or sudo all the time
• 2586[19:47:31] <eck> that means you're more likely to accidentally run something as root
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• 2590[19:47:54] <eck> hence the argument that most things should be world readable, unless they're truly considered sensitive
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• 2592[19:48:37] <eck> in a parallel universe we'd all be running selinux, but that's its own can of worms
• 2593[19:48:58] <metastable> I'm a fan of selinux.
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• 2597[19:49:36] <eck> same actually
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• 2599[19:50:45] <eck> debugging someone else's selinux policy can be a serious endeavor though
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• 2610[19:54:27] <rob_debian> Debian Warriors are the Best !! :) Debian is the Best !!!
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• 2621[20:00:59] <fasdfd> is it hard to use?
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• 2624[20:01:36] <kale> how do i set my mariadb root password?
• 2625[20:01:55] <eck> selinux is very powerful but very complicated
• 2626[20:02:33] <eck> most people consider it to be more work than it's worth which is why redhat/fedora are really the only distros that ship selinux policies
• 2627[20:03:23] <annadane> kale, perhaps replaced-url
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• 2629[20:03:39] <annadane> i'm not too familiar with mariadb, that's just from a search
• 2630[20:03:48] <annadane> note also that's from 2014
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• 2638[20:06:37] <kale> hmm.. seems mysql_secure_installation did it
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• 2646[20:09:34] <fasdfd> eck, from selinux wiki: "It has no concept of a "root" superuser", is this somehow related to Android's lack of root user?
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• 2648[20:10:14] <fasdfd> is it commonly used by big companies (facebook, google), banks, small companies (snapchat, evernote)?
• 2649[20:10:15] <eck> i think android does it using namespaces
• 2650[20:10:24] <eck> rather than selinux
• 2651[20:10:26] <eck> i could be wrong
• 2652[20:10:34] <eck> google does not use selinux
• 2653[20:10:37] <eck> idk about facebook
• 2654[20:10:55] <eck> most people using rhel are using selinux, most people using debian/ubuntu are not
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• 2664[20:17:54] <misty5> can someone explain how fs.protected_hardlinks is important? I don't understand what the fuzz is about
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• 2667[20:19:24] <eck> who's making a fuss about it?
• 2668[20:20:00] <misty5> eck: you can root escallate or something like that without it
• 2669[20:20:00] <eck> misty5: replaced-url
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• 2683[20:24:03] <hassoon> strange can't download my google drive files in firefox
• 2684[20:24:09] <hassoon> i have jessy
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• 2686[20:25:08] <gribouille> hi
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• 2688[20:25:24] <gribouille> isn't chkconfig available on stretch?
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• 2732[20:45:26] <metastable> chkconfig has been replaced with systemd's service management utility, systemctl.
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• 2740[20:50:21] <wr417h> I have downloaded debian 9.3 from here: replaced-url
• 2741[20:50:47] <wr417h> Fist tried in Virtualbox, it says "system halted, no bootable media found"
• 2742[20:51:31] <wr417h> I used "dd" to make a usb stick, but same with real hardware
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• 2747[20:52:35] <wr417h> Wiki says "Only the first CD/DVD/BD in a set is bootable."
• 2748[20:52:56] <wr417h> I have this one: "debian-9.3.0-arm64-xfce-CD-1.iso"
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• 2756[20:54:49] <coruja> wr417h, just to sort out, you really meant to boot debian on arm64 (not amd64)?
• 2757[20:54:57] <mnuhmnuh> wr417h: i don't know arm chips; do they have bios type controls? my xeon's boot controls are complex her too.
• 2758[20:55:02] <wr417h> just noticed that
• 2759[20:55:05] <wr417h> Have
• 2760[20:55:06] <wr417h> haha
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• 2763[20:55:22] <wr417h> I downloaded Arm disk by mistake :D
• 2764[20:55:35] <coruja> better luck next time ;)
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• 2766[20:55:49] <mnuhmnuh> oops.
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• 2786[21:04:52] <buu> What's the simplest possible way to ensure a specific directory under /tmp exists with the specified permissions when I reboot?
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• 2788[21:05:11] <wigums> mkdir
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• 2790[21:05:22] <wigums> is /tmp on a tmpfs?
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• 2793[21:06:03] <metastable> buu: see /etc/tmpfiles.d/
• 2794[21:06:38] <metastable> wigums: mkdir isnt a good solution as nothing in /tmp should be expected to survive a restart.
• 2795[21:06:48] <wigums> why?
• 2796[21:07:26] <wigums> unless its in a tmpfs or scriipted to wipe it out /tmp persists through reboots
• 2797[21:07:36] <alkisg> man hier: /tmp This directory contains temporary files which may be deleted with no notice, such as by a regular job or at system boot up.
• 2798[21:07:46] <wigums> meaning it persists unless you tell it not to
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• 2811[21:11:46] <metastable> wigums: /tmp SHOULD NOT be expected to persist. Period. tmpfiles.d exists for this reason.
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• 2815[21:12:18] <wigums> tmpfs IS expected to persist unless actions are taken for it not to
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• 2818[21:12:58] <wigums> for example putting it in ram/tmpfs
• 2819[21:13:03] <metastable> no, its not, and arguing this is stupid.
• 2820[21:13:16] <wigums> then shut your π hole
• 2821[21:13:18] <metastable> buu: tmpfiles.d is what you need.
• 2822[21:13:18] <buu> wigums: I mean, in this specific case, my directory is going away after a power cycle
• 2823[21:13:24] <buu> metastable: Yes, reading it now, thanks
• 2824[21:13:31] <buu> wigums: or I wouldn't be asking the question
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• 2826[21:13:52] <metastable> wigums: Check your attitude and your facts. Thank you.
• 2827[21:14:05] <wigums> i know what im talking about thx
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• 2831[21:18:25] <wigums> ah you mean systemd tmp files. yea systemd is far from the norm as well being that only debian redhat and what, ubuntu, run systemd?
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• 2833[21:19:18] <buu> Yeah, a few minor distros no one has ever heard of
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• 2835[21:19:41] <wigums> well when compared to the 90000 other distros that do not run systemd
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• 2837[21:19:53] <buu> You mean the other 90000 that no one actually use?
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• 2839[21:20:29] <wigums> every one uses them except big business and thats only because of the purchased tech support
• 2840[21:21:11] <buu> And by everyone you mean.. the 2% of linux desktop users? (that all run ubuntu)
• 2841[21:21:33] <wigums> far from 2% and far from all run ubuntu
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• 2843[21:21:57] <buu> you mean lower?!
• 2844[21:21:58] <wigums> your views are as limited as your experience
• 2845[21:22:00] <buu> Well, I guess that figures
• 2846[21:22:15] <mnuhmnuh> corps run redhat & suse a lot imo, someone to sue when they break.
• 2847[21:22:31] <wigums> most users will never find themselves maintaining rackspace or amazon for example
• 2848[21:22:58] <wigums> mnuhmnuh, they do so because of the gaurantee of tech support
• 2849[21:22:59] <buu> Home users use ubuntu which has systemd, corps use redhat and suse, everyone else uses debian
• 2850[21:23:08] <wigums> lol
• 2851[21:23:12] <wigums> not even close
• 2852[21:23:30] <wigums> for example distrowatch has slackware rated as favorite desktop
• 2853[21:23:32] <mnuhmnuh> wigums: yup, and i made a career doing it for them. :-)
• 2854[21:23:49] <wigums> oh i only build clusters and distros for fun
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• 2856[21:24:16] <wigums> so i have some freedom in what im ALLOWED to use
• 2857[21:24:35] <buu> uh
• 2858[21:24:43] <mnuhmnuh> slack's great, but not for corps. high maintenance cost.
• 2859[21:24:50] <buu> Exactly how many people in the entire world do you think run slackware compared to ubuntu
• 2860[21:24:52] <wigums> sure and thats fair
• 2861[21:25:07] <wigums> that doesnt mean ubuntu is "right"
• 2862[21:25:17] <buu> Why are you changing the goalposts
• 2863[21:25:18] <wigums> it means too many people are stupid
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• 2865[21:25:24] <buu> So you admit I'm right
• 2866[21:25:33] <wigums> right about what?
• 2867[21:25:51] <buu> haha
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• 2869[21:26:00] <buu> The defense rests.
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• 2871[21:26:06] <wigums> the vast majority of linux users do not run systemd distros. sorry.
• 2872[21:26:13] <annadane> !offtopic
• 2873[21:26:13] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
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• 2875[21:26:39] <htb> Hi all, I am trying to install debian stable on a very old laptop, I am getting an error during the base system installation step. The log says: debootstrap: chfn: PAM : Authentication Failure. Does anyone have any idea on how I could debug this? Thanks
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• 2877[21:27:08] <wigums> yea theres another genius idea... pam
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• 2880[21:27:50] <wigums> 2 biggestt exploitable services there are. sysd and pam. well pams just more of a clusterfuck
• 2881[21:28:38] <wigums> i do run debian and systemd on my cluster only cuz thats waaaay too many dependancies to build
• 2882[21:29:36] <annadane> k, someone has an actual support question
• 2883[21:29:40] <annadane> take your rant elsewhere
• 2884[21:29:43] <coruja> wigums, support or be quiet here, off-topic (meaning anything beyond support) goes to #debian-offtopic
• 2885[21:29:50] <mnuhmnuh> better ideas are always welcome, as are volunteers. go ask a few innocent q.s in lkml, hack code. have fun.
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• 2890[21:31:30] <wigums> so support the guy already
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• 2892[21:31:37] <wigums> or gal
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• 2902[21:35:22] <mnuhmnuh> htb: define "very old laptop"?
• 2903[21:36:08] <htb> mnuhmnuh: hp ~2005
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• 2907[21:37:39] <mnuhmnuh> htb: i've owned two of those, diff. models of pavilion.
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• 2910[21:37:59] <mnuhmnuh> debian all along for ca. decade.
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• 2913[21:39:39] <htb> mnuhmnuh: the failing line appears to be: chfn -f systemd Time Synchronization. I tried running it manually on another TTY (chrooted to /target) and got the same PAM: Authentication Failure error.
• 2914[21:40:18] <mnuhmnuh> chfn fail sounds like it missed some input it was expected to pass on to PAM. perhaps you glossed over too much entering initial install data?
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• 2916[21:40:42] <htb> mnuhmnuh: One note: prior to this during the install, the clock setup fails, and I had to re-run it without using nntp
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• 2918[21:41:32] <mnuhmnuh> htb: clock bat. may be dead, so manually reset bios clock at boot.
• 2919[21:41:39] <htb> there wasn't much install data to enter: country/keyboard/drive (I use the entire drive with a swap partition as suggested by default)/user name.
• 2920[21:41:49] <htb> ok I'll try to reset the clock then thanks
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• 2923[21:43:09] <htb> time was indeed off, I'll retry now and report here. Thanks again.
• 2924[21:43:19] <mnuhmnuh> :-)
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• 2942[21:50:36] <Pr0metheus> I typed who and there is a user named "smi" , I searched google but it says nothing about such a user but there are some mentions of nvidia-smi (I have an nvidia card), any idea if I am in trouble?:P
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• 2950[21:53:29] <mnuhmnuh> Pr0metheus: "ps fax | less" will list all that's running, and what ran them. find it in there?
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• 2952[21:55:16] <Pr0metheus> mnuhmnuh it does not list the user
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• 2955[21:55:41] <mnuhmnuh> does it list nvidia-smi, i wondered.
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• 2957[21:56:35] <jhutchins> Pr0metheus: ps axu will list the user.
• 2958[21:56:49] <Pr0metheus> ok thanks both, I will check it
• 2959[21:56:59] <mnuhmnuh> i don't use nvidia, but i've watched smugly from afar its tribulations. :-)
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• 2963[21:58:04] <mrr0butt> hello! is debian stretch allready spectre/meltdown patched?
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• 2971[22:00:28] <wigums> spectre isnt really a big deal to home users but yes they have a patched kernel. if you didnt install new packages over the net during install you can simply get the new kernel with apt
• 2972[22:00:30] <jhutchins> Pr0metheus: I just discovered ps ax -f - also shows user and full command with arguments.
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• 2974[22:00:56] <mnuhmnuh> htop is nice too.
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• 2976[22:01:02] <wigums> htop lies
• 2977[22:01:17] <mnuhmnuh> how so?
• 2978[22:01:29] <wigums> htop reports resources that would be used if that were the only process on the system running
• 2979[22:01:42] <jhutchins> Pr0metheus: I have an Nvidia using their drivers and have no smi user.
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• 2984[22:02:24] <jhutchins> Pr0metheus: getent passwd smi
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• 2986[22:02:41] <jhutchins> Pr0metheus: ls /home/smi
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• 2990[22:03:26] <Pr0metheus> ok thanks jhutchins, its not from nvidia, I think it is a family hack:)
• 2991[22:05:20] <jhutchins> Heh - best kind.
• 2992[22:05:39] <mnuhmnuh> what i always say re: security. sophisticated attacks are far less likely than family/employees/boss holding the door open for them.
• 2993[22:06:06] <wigums> The confusion comes because some ways of monitoring memory usage include the file cache, others don't, since the ram used for the file cache is only used as long as it is not needed for any other usage.
• 2994[22:06:12] <jhutchins> mnuhmnuh: Most people learn a certain set of arguments for ps and don't change them much. I have really wanted that f functionality in the past, thanks to you I just found it.
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• 2997[22:06:53] <mnuhmnuh> i'm a bottomless pit of useless information. :-)
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• 3009[22:09:47] <mnuhmnuh> wigums: i have always read htop output as watching a slice in time. that executing is *shown*, at the top, all other/lesser procs are after and cycle in next, ...
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• 3011[22:10:46] <mnuhmnuh> % cpu tells the story. if 0, ignore.
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• 3015[22:14:07] <htb> mnuhmnuh: i've got to run but it seems that the installation moved along without error this time, thank you
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• 3023[22:17:00] <mnuhmnuh> bravo.
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• 3027[22:17:29] <mnuhmnuh> hardware's weak !@#$.
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• 3030[22:18:57] <jhutchins> Well, there's an easy way to fix old, incompatible php code. Discover you're not actually running it.
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• 3039[22:24:20] <mnuhmnuh> how'd php get into this? hware clock batt's dead, so PAM burps, install does lip-stand, ... php?
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• 3042[22:27:14] <mnuhmnuh> besides, all langs are subject to that old, incompatible slur at times. hardware's faults are burned in, but often ignorable.
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• 3046[22:28:40] <jhutchins> None of which has anything to do with Debian anyway.
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• 3050[22:30:11] <mnuhmnuh> getting debian to work often means understanding intimately what it has to work with. but i'll leave it there. :-)
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• 3097[22:55:11] <fasdfd> I'm trying to run dehydrated as a non-root user, but the hook.sh script that runs service nginx reload fails, how do I reload nginx in this case?
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• 3100[22:55:45] <metastable> The user executing the script needs the necessary privileges to restart a service. Generally, that's going to be root.
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• 3102[22:56:25] <fasdfd> is there another way to accomplish this?
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• 3108[22:57:27] <fasdfd> the only thing that comes to my mind is making the hook script write a control file that's read by another script that in turn runs as root and reloads nginx as needed, but that's complicated, failure prone and I've been told many times that dehydrated can be run as non-root
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• 3111[22:58:44] <bzed> fasdfd: give the user you are using to run the script sudo permissions to reload nginx
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• 3113[22:59:11] <fasdfd> bzed, that's probably worse than running the script as root
• 3114[22:59:18] <bzed> fasdfd: why?
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• 3116[22:59:47] <bzed> fasdfd: nothing bad in giving reload rights to a user. can't happen anything bad.
• 3117[23:00:00] <fasdfd> more complicated, root access allowed
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• 3119[23:00:16] <fasdfd> unless sudo can be configured in such a way that only one command is allowed
• 3120[23:00:36] <bzed> fasdfd: its not complicated at all and root aceess is limited to exactly one command which can't breakt things.
• 3121[23:00:52] <bzed> fasdfd:you might want to rad things like the debian administrators handbook.
• 3122[23:00:55] <bzed> *read
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• 3125[23:01:31] <bzed> fasdfd: replaced-url
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• 3127[23:02:25] <bzed> fasdfd: or at least read replaced-url
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• 3132[23:04:28] <kokoman> hello all. i am trying to find rdp but none work. I found replaced-url
• 3133[23:04:47] <kokoman> I want to remote desktop using some protocol which have good quality
• 3134[23:04:59] <kokoman> and if possible to transfer files to remote..
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• 3136[23:05:24] <annadane> ,v rdp
• 3137[23:05:25] <judd> No package named 'rdp' was found in amd64.
• 3138[23:05:34] <annadane> ,v remmina
• 3139[23:05:35] <judd> Package: remmina on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.0.0-4+deb7u1; jessie: 1.1.1-2; stretch-backports: 1.2.0-rcgit.26+dfsg-1~bpo9+1; buster: 1.2.0-rcgit.26+dfsg-1; sid: 1.2.0-rcgit.26+dfsg-1
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• 3202[23:05:52] <kokoman> damn why it's happening now.. ;_;
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• 3208[23:05:54] <annadane> well, backports are not inherently bad
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• 3227[23:06:22] <kokoman> hello all. i am trying to find rdp but none work. I found replaced-url
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• 3243[23:06:59] <mnuhmnuh> kokoman: no, backports aren't bad. if you need/want, use. you can trust them as much as debian other.
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• 3247[23:07:15] <deb_uzer> hello people im using debian gnome. i would like to ask how to set up a pppoe connection with password encryption protocol..
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• 3250[23:07:35] <annadane> kokoman, guess you got disconnected. i was saying, remmina is available in stretch backports, and backports are not inherently bad
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• 3256[23:07:59] <kokoman> is it working product?
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• 3258[23:08:08] <kokoman> i am trying to connect to windows machine
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• 3260[23:08:14] <annadane> i guess the only thing to watch out for is when you upgrade to buster
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• 3265[23:08:26] <kokoman> what is buster?
• 3266[23:08:35] <annadane> the next stable release, not due out for a while
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• 3271[23:08:46] <annadane> but yeah backports have their own upgrade path thingy
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• 3279[23:09:16] <mnuhmnuh> remmina - GTK+ Remote Desktop Client
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• 3286[23:10:25] <kokoman_> got disconnected.. :<
• 3287[23:10:27] <kokoman_> plz help?
• 3288[23:10:29] <kokoman_> what is buster?
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• 3294[23:10:51] <annadane> the next stable release, not due out for a while - but yeah backports have their own update considerations
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• 3297[23:11:07] <annadane> it'll be in the release notes when buster is released
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• 3299[23:11:42] <mnuhmnuh> remmina - GTK+ Remote Desktop Client
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• 3308[23:15:03] <rdg_> I've got debian/E running in VBOx on windows.. it's not letting me choose a resolution other than 1024x768 and reports unrecognized monitor. What do I need to do to get it to full screen to 1920x1080? when I max vbox I just get the black frame around the 1024x768
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• 3312[23:16:37] <annadane> xrandr? your mileage may vary on virtualbox
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• 3317[23:17:20] <kokoman> hi
• 3318[23:17:27] <kokoman> remmina-plugin-gnome : Depends: remmina (= 1.2.0-rcgit.24-2~bpo9+1) but 1.2.0-rcgit.26+dfsg-1~bpo9+1 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
• 3319[23:17:29] <kokoman> help plz?
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• 3322[23:17:49] <kokoman> !remmina
• 3323[23:17:49] <dpkg> Remmina (formerly Grdc) is a GTK+ remote desktop client supporting the NX, RDP, SSH, VNC and XDMCP protocols. replaced-url
• 3324[23:17:53] <kokoman> damnnnnnnnnnnnnn
• 3325[23:18:08] <rdg_> oh i think it's because i forgot to add vbox additions
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• 3327[23:18:17] <vergilzen> That will definitely help you out.
• 3328[23:18:25] <kokoman> any1 help plz?
• 3329[23:18:29] <vergilzen> You mgiht still have problems, I have had mixed luck with vbox myself.
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• 3331[23:18:57] <kokoman> who
• 3332[23:18:59] <kokoman> what
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• 3334[23:19:25] <deb_uzer> !libc6
• 3335[23:19:25] <dpkg> libc6 is the GNU C library version 2, which Debian GNU/Linux uses since version 2.0. Do not try to downgrade it. It is a essential component of your Debian system, and we are not responsible if it breaks.
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• 3338[23:19:53] <annadane> kokoman, vergilzen is responding to someone else
• 3339[23:20:09] <annadane> !bat
• 3340[23:20:10] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
• 3341[23:20:12] <annadane> kokoman, ^
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• 3344[23:21:24] <annadane> ,v remmina-plugin-gnome
• 3345[23:21:25] <judd> Package: remmina-plugin-gnome on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.0.0-4+deb7u1; jessie: 1.1.1-2; stretch-backports: 1.2.0-rcgit.24-2~bpo9+1
• 3346[23:21:40] <kokoman> how to revert this lin? echo 'deb replaced-url
• 3347[23:21:51] <kokoman> so this software is broken and dont wanna use it
• 3348[23:22:14] <annadane> uh
• 3349[23:22:29] <Bierjpg|X8> if you are running a adaptec controller (tested with a 51645) and you install firmware-amd-grafics with a amd grafics card (tested 3870x2) the system dont start.
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• 3351[23:23:16] <mnuhmnuh> kokoman: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/stretch-backports.list
• 3352[23:23:42] <kokoman> that's it?
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• 3355[23:24:04] <annadane> also, stop running random commands you found on the internet as root
• 3356[23:24:12] <mnuhmnuh> apt update && apt upgrade && date
• 3357[23:24:14] <annadane> !don't break debian
• 3358[23:24:14] <dpkg> [dont break debian] replaced-url
• 3359[23:24:16] <kokoman> annadane: you recommend it..
• 3360[23:24:18] <kokoman> idiot
• 3361[23:24:38] <annadane> well, if that's how you're going to treat support then i'm not helping you, and also i did not recommend that
• 3362[23:24:55] <kokoman> u recommend the thing about strech backports
• 3363[23:25:01] <kokoman> and now u say dont break it..
• 3364[23:25:21] <annadane> i did not recommend echo 'deb replaced-url
• 3365[23:25:26] <kokoman> w/e
• 3366[23:25:31] <kokoman> fking shit this rdp..
• 3367[23:25:36] <kokoman> all are not working
• 3368[23:26:23] <kokoman> its annoying :<
• 3369[23:26:25] <mnuhmnuh> kokoman: remmina is broken, how? says who?
• 3370[23:26:33] <kokoman> mnuhmnuh: its working for you?
• 3371[23:26:57] <mnuhmnuh> i don't use it; just trying to help you.
• 3372[23:27:05] <kokoman> no problem..
• 3373[23:27:24] <mnuhmnuh> kokoman: remmina is broken, how? says who?
• 3374[23:27:27] <kokoman> just saying i tried xrdp, and more i just forgot .. and couldnt get rdp
• 3375[23:27:42] <kokoman> why you bothering asking if u have no idea abou that software lol
• 3376[23:28:29] <annadane> if you're going to ask for help in a support channel try not to alienate everyone by insulting them when they're trying to help with your problem
• 3377[23:28:34] <kokoman> wow that tee i never know that command and i type it and it remove my content of file
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• 3379[23:28:39] <gdot> It does not take deep knowledge of a specific software package to help you, you know?
• 3380[23:29:13] <kokoman> anyone know a software that work for remote desktop windows probably using rdp?
• 3381[23:29:38] <rdg_> lol aaaand installing guest additions just destroyed the machine
• 3382[23:29:42] <mnuhmnuh> kokoman: i'm playing with you, leading you astray, futzing with you and wasting your time, silly. or, you just don't want to learn. you choose.
• 3383[23:29:50] <kokoman> rdg_: which ?
• 3384[23:30:08] <rdg_> my vbox that i couldn't resize the monitor on
• 3385[23:30:10] <kokoman> mnuhmnuh: are you a poet? :D
• 3386[23:30:13] <rdg_> no big deal, i'll just reinstall
• 3387[23:30:52] <gdot> kokoman: you could try running the native Microsoft Remote Desktop Client under a current version of WINE
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• 3389[23:31:32] <mnuhmnuh> kokoman: philosopher, historian, geek; never a poet. :-P
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• 3391[23:32:15] <kokoman> mnuhmnuh: just you got a nice line i didint understand
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• 3393[23:32:31] <kokoman> gdot: any other solution?
• 3394[23:32:36] <kokoman> i prefer not to use winee..
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• 3396[23:33:21] <Haxxa> anyone know how to read smart logs? can anyone check if anything is out of ordinary here: replaced-url
• 3397[23:33:27] <gdot> yes, you could lose your sense of entitlement to free software working out of the box and at least put in the effort to answer the questions which we need answers to if we are to help you
• 3398[23:33:40] <mnuhmnuh> kokoman: WHY do you say remmina is broken?!? answer?!?
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• 3400[23:33:44] <gdot> i.e. what how were connecting to what fails with remmina?
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• 3403[23:34:23] <kokoman> mnuhmnuh: i tried to install and it didnt work sir
• 3404[23:34:41] <annadane> !doesn't work
• 3405[23:34:41] <dpkg> "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>.
• 3406[23:34:42] <annadane> !bat
• 3407[23:34:44] <annadane> !bat
• 3408[23:34:44] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
• 3409[23:34:44] <kale> kokoman: the rdp software i connect to does send random tcp resets back to the client. so if the client is a nice client it will close the connection. it is very possible that the system you are connecting to is behaving badly, rather than the client.
• 3410[23:35:04] <kokoman> aha so many poet people here
• 3411[23:35:27] <kokoman> i paste some line before... remmina-plugin-gnome : Depends: remmina (= 1.2.0-rcgit.24-2~bpo9+1) but 1.2.0-rcgit.26+dfsg-1~bpo9+1 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. that's got me the error and not work
• 3412[23:35:28] <annadane> see replaced-url
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• 3414[23:36:27] <kokoman> i expect it to work and im using debian 9
• 3415[23:37:38] <mnuhmnuh> kokoman: you need your system working cleanly. "you have held broken packages" is not yet clean.
• 3416[23:38:17] <kokoman> yes
• 3417[23:38:24] <kokoman> can i fix it?
• 3418[23:38:24] <mnuhmnuh> then your install remmina will work.
• 3419[23:39:11] <kale> Haxxa: smartctl -a /dev/sda to read from first SATA
• 3420[23:39:19] <mnuhmnuh> paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to paste.debian.net please.
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• 3422[23:40:00] <kokoman> mnuhmnuh: replaced-url
• 3423[23:40:03] <mnuhmnuh> !bat
• 3424[23:40:03] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
• 3425[23:40:23] <kokoman> i remove the ..
• 3426[23:40:35] <kokoman> i removed that file rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/stretch-backports.list
• 3427[23:41:19] <kokoman> hm..
• 3428[23:41:44] <kokoman> does anyone recommend the software remmina before troubleshooting?
• 3429[23:42:06] <mnuhmnuh> kokoman: does "apt update && apt upgrade" finish clean, or E: (error out)?
• 3430[23:42:10] <kale> kokoman: you need to get your installation into a sane state at some point in time anyways
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• 3432[23:44:22] <kokoman> upgrade? 151 mb..
• 3433[23:44:24] <kokoman> why
• 3434[23:44:33] <kokoman> cant i just install remmina?
• 3435[23:45:11] <kokoman> without installing million packages
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• 3438[23:45:45] <kokoman> ok i will install
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• 3442[23:47:12] <mnuhmnuh> complex interactions, dependencies, executable, called libraries ... all gotta be happy to work.
• 3443[23:47:25] <metastable> Why is keeping your system properly patched such a significant request? You should be doing that anyway.
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• 3445[23:47:43] <mnuhmnuh> daily!
• 3446[23:47:45] <annadane> stable also makes it easy to do
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• 3451[23:50:46] <Haxxa> kale that is my first - the others are on a lsi controller
• 3452[23:50:56] <kokoman> is there updates for meltdown intel bugs?
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• 3454[23:51:16] <kale> Haxxa: you should of course replace /dev/sda with the disk you want to get the report from
• 3455[23:51:42] <mnuhmnuh> kokoman: stable & sid are reported fixed, not so testing/buster.
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• 3458[23:53:29] <Haxxa> kale I did and pasted it here
• 3459[23:53:47] <kokoman> test
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• 3463[23:54:25] <mnuhmnuh> kokoman: after you get upgrade finished correctly, add the backports line to /etc/apt/sources.list, run "apt update && apt install remmina"
• 3464[23:54:39] <kokoman> dont think it will work but i will try
• 3465[23:54:45] <annadane> i think you have to specify -t stretch-backports
• 3466[23:54:51] <annadane> might be wrong
• 3467[23:55:02] * mnuhmnuh oh, ye of little faith ...
• 3468[23:55:26] <kokoman> i also tried nomachine..
• 3469[23:55:28] <kale> Haxxa: sorry for not seeing that immidiately. it looks fine, but i can see that you had not been running any smart tests. you could run "smartctl -t long /dev/sda" and probably wait some hours for the result.
• 3470[23:55:33] <kokoman> it asked for user and password and it didnt work
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• 3472[23:55:46] <kokoman> xfreerdp half compiled half worked. it gave me black screen
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• 3474[23:56:31] <kale> kokoman: xfreerdp does honor the disconnects as i mentioned
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• 3476[23:56:38] <Haxxa> kale, more concerned with the wearout indicator its a new ssd and already 25 % wearout in a few days
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• 3492[23:59:49] <rdg_> huh. something about installing vbox guest additions hoses a fresh net install
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