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• 33[00:11:54] <chomwitt> my /tmp space is filled with thousand of files with a long strings of numbers as name
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• 40[00:14:14] <chomwitt> replaced-url
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• 57[00:19:55] <b00kworm> Kill it with fire
• 58[00:20:02] <b00kworm> What the hell did you do to that box?
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• 60[00:20:36] <b00kworm> Or better what were you running... But consider it toast
• 61[00:20:36] <chomwitt> fire/
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• 63[00:21:32] <chomwitt> :-(
• 64[00:21:34] <b00kworm> Nuke them 'till they glow and shoot them in the dark
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• 66[00:21:49] <digdilem> chomwitt, your server is compromised. reformat and reinstall.
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• 68[00:22:15] <chomwitt> digdilem: backing up my sites atleast?
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• 72[00:22:50] <b00kworm> Probably better if you don't if you don't know the attack vector
• 73[00:22:52] <digdilem> of course, but you should use backups from before it was compromised - as you may have bad stuff in there
• 74[00:23:00] <digdilem> trust nothing
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• 76[00:23:26] <chomwitt> attack vector?
• 77[00:23:32] <cef> chomwitt: you basically need to consider the whole lot compromised. you need to go to back ups of your sites, then before you put them back online,. go through them with a fine tooth comb to see if there are any hooks that'll cause problems (ie: a backdoor that you didn't notice).
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• 79[00:23:57] <chomwitt> cef: lot?
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• 83[00:24:22] <cef> chomwitt: if you don't have backups already, make them now but consider them possible ways to get back in. you need to do even more thorough checking.
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• 85[00:24:35] <chomwitt> cef: ok i see
• 86[00:24:44] <cef> chomwitt: lot = all of your sites and anything else you grab from the machine.
• 87[00:24:53] <chomwitt> cef: they are simple php-based sites basically
• 88[00:25:48] <cef> chomwitt: then either there's a php vulnerability you didn't patch, or they have a loophole that allows people to get in, or they brute-forced themselves in some other way (eg: ssh to an account with a poor password)
• 89[00:26:02] <chomwitt> anyway thanks for the truth guys..
• 90[00:26:21] <chomwitt> i'll take some backups and reinstall
• 91[00:26:35] <chomwitt> and try to check those backups..
• 92[00:27:23] <chomwitt> is there any point on keeping some data on the kind of strange files i found?
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• 95[00:28:48] <cef> chomwitt: yes. it might give you info on how they got in... you might try googling for info, etc. that in itself might stop it happening again.
• 96[00:29:29] <fdgfds2351> Hello. Would someone running Debian 9 (amd64) be so kind as to take a moment to post md5sums of a few binaries? I need md5's of cd ls dd and mv.
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• 98[00:30:10] <chomwitt> cef: i just see with ps : replaced-url
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• 103[00:31:19] <blackslide> ls 0b19809bab331d70fb9983a0b9866290
• 104[00:31:50] <blackslide> dd cb148341684949cb78592cddafd3c316
• 105[00:31:51] <chomwitt> cef: i killed it .. ha!! i'm still root!! :-)
• 106[00:32:01] <cef> fdgfds2351: do you also trust your md5sum?
• 107[00:32:12] <fdgfds2351> good call, cef. that too plz, blackslide
• 108[00:32:35] <blackslide> mv da8c46a7d08b648bde332db4c87bc6e6
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• 110[00:33:01] <cef> prob also want to do sha265sum on md5sum and vice versa
• 111[00:33:09] <blackslide> I cant find cd
• 112[00:33:23] <blackslide> does it just link to ls?
• 113[00:33:23] <fdgfds2351> "whereis cd"
• 114[00:33:26] <cef> cd's inbuilt in bash afaik
• 115[00:33:31] <fdgfds2351> ok
• 116[00:33:41] <somiaj> the command is 'which' not 'whereis'
• 117[00:34:13] <blackslide> I've always used whereis?
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• 119[00:34:33] <whoami> sup everyone
• 120[00:34:49] <whoami> does CVE-2017-5754 affects kali linux 4.14?
• 121[00:35:15] <somiaj> blackslide: oh sorry, yea, which and whereis do different things. which is useful if you want to know what binary 'foo' actually runs
• 122[00:35:35] <blackslide> ah, okay. Thanks :)
• 123[00:35:45] <blackslide> 08c9ecb479710c1a5f548bf48b722c7ef03054a1741116ae0794df49a5fbb9d4 md5sum
• 124[00:35:49] <cef> fdgfds2351: may also be worthwhile doing md5sum and sha256sum from a rescue disk that has both.. at least to check those binaries.. (eg: after your current tests if you find nothing)
• 125[00:35:59] <blackslide> that's sha256sum of md5sum
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• 127[00:36:04] <fdgfds2351> tyvm blackslide & cef
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• 131[00:36:56] <blackslide> e22f2d5f30ca382d5d873dd580d386b7 sha256sum
• 132[00:37:04] <blackslide> md5sum of sha256sum
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• 134[00:37:41] <cef> chomwitt: was it using a lot of cpu?
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• 139[00:39:18] <cef> chomwitt: if so, probably doing cryptomining as well.. which may not be what was causing your site issues.
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• 163[00:51:19] <chomwitt> cef: yes
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• 168[00:54:20] <cef> chomwitt: I'
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• 172[00:55:05] <cef> chomwitt: I'd recommend you check for more than one infection.. it's possible you've been hit multiple times. possibly through the same vector (security hole).
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• 177[00:56:13] <cef> chomwitt: I'd still not trust anything from that machine without giving it a thorough vetting. If it's downloaded code (eg: wordpress) I'd reinstall it all from scratch and then reimport the data after vetting it hard.
• 178[00:56:15] <chomwitt> well.. the cryptomining is one that eat cpu and my /tmp dir, and i have the issue with url redirecting to an ad page.
• 179[00:56:31] <chomwitt> cef: vetting?
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• 184[00:57:02] <cef> chomwitt: reviewing all your data, to make sure there's no back doors somehow hidden in it
• 185[00:57:21] <chomwitt> cef : are there free tools to do that?
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• 188[00:57:50] <cef> eg: even a database entry on an interactive site that's db driven could have some backdoor in it somewhere.
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• 190[00:58:43] * chomwitt so farewell to my webdev innocent years...
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• 197[00:59:49] <chomwitt> cpu is very low and the cryptomining script hasnt started.
• 198[00:59:58] <cef> chomwitt: depends entirely on what was used to make the site.. there's probably not many tools for searching a db, as it'll be dependant on what created the db.. searching the code is easier
• 199[01:00:09] <chomwitt> where else to look fon malicious file messing with url redirecting ?
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• 206[01:01:04] <cef> if you're using something that has plugins (eg: wp plugins, drupal plugins, etc), go searching through those to make surethey've not got extra code injected in them.
• 207[01:01:05] <chomwitt> cef: dokuwiki , wordpress , phpbb , custommade js+html+jquery .. that kind of sites
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• 214[01:03:39] <cef> chomwitt: might want to look at some of the tools from this page: replaced-url
• 215[01:03:50] <cef> there's bound to be more, but that's a good start.
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• 220[01:06:58] <chomwitt> cef: thanks!
• 221[01:07:07] <cef> chomwitt: fwiw: file uploads in php are notorious for being unsafe, so if you have anything that allows a visitor to upload files to you, I'd disable that or make sure that the person is behind a login and authorised to access it (ie: you manually approve they can do this somehow).
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• 228[01:09:54] <capin> would anyone know how i could solve replaced-url
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• 287[01:30:28] <tom[]> capin: how long since that system was last upgraded?
• 288[01:30:31] <mnuhmnuh> capin: lenny is really old. upgrade.
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• 294[01:31:34] <capin> i'm aware, I need to use lenny for a project I'm working on.
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• 296[01:32:01] <mnuhmnuh> reconsider.
• 297[01:33:32] <tom[]> capin: i'm not sure there is a simple solution. support for old systems eventually ends
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• 308[01:37:20] <capin> tom[]: is there a debian package for libc6@2.14?
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• 316[01:41:22] <FightingFalcon> is debian the best linux distro?
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• 318[01:42:01] <annadane> i'd say so but that's really just my opinion
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• 320[01:42:36] <annadane> replaced-url
• 321[01:44:37] <mutante> FightingFalcon: of course :)
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• 325[01:45:02] <jim> FightingFalcon, it's pretty stable.... and, one weakness is also one of its strengths: its package dependency tree. without a lot of detail, immporting a dep tree that's not compatible with the one already on your machine can get you into trouble
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• 327[01:45:31] <FightingFalcon> lol
• 328[01:45:55] <FightingFalcon> i was using debian 7 and i didnt know anything and i added debian 9 repositories in apt-sources file
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• 330[01:46:11] <FightingFalcon> and all my o/s was destroyed. had to reinstall it and since that i took interest on linux
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• 334[01:47:16] <jim> yeah, you should upgrade one release at a time (7 -> 8, 8 -> 9)
• 335[01:47:23] <SilverMight> checked a friend's pc, new to linux
• 336[01:47:37] <SilverMight> had wheezy repos in sources, on stretch
• 337[01:47:42] <FightingFalcon> worst thing is most packages are out of date
• 338[01:47:51] <iodot> is there a proper way to install kde plasma minimal on stretch?
• 339[01:48:07] <annadane> iodot, kde-plasma-desktop
• 340[01:48:16] <jim> which isn't a bad thing either (unless something specific comes up)
• 341[01:48:23] <annadane> FightingFalcon, replaced-url
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• 343[01:48:51] <iodot> annadane: wont that pull every thing?
• 344[01:49:07] <annadane> iodot, it's the most minimal plasma you'll get
• 345[01:49:10] <themill> iodot: every package has a description, it would be worth reading
• 346[01:49:34] <annadane> see replaced-url
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• 348[01:49:52] <iodot> ok great. cheers.
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• 350[01:50:12] <annadane> (yes it will pull in everything that being said, kde has lots of libraries)
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• 352[01:51:21] <annadane> don't like it, don't use KDE :-)
• 353[01:51:36] <jim> these debian folks are smart... they could probably find a way to prevent the importing of incompatible dep trees
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• 355[01:51:49] <FightingFalcon> why nginx, mariadb, varnish etc all have older versions in apt-get?
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• 359[01:52:45] <annadane> because stable has older packages
• 360[01:52:55] <annadane> (because they're well tested)
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• 362[01:53:21] <tom[]> FightingFalcon: versions of nginx and maria in stretch are pretty reasonable
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• 365[01:54:17] <jim> FightingFalcon, there are also some outside sources of packages (be careful here), like for postgresql, there is a repo where they have a lot of different versions of postgres compiled specifically for each release of debian, and in this particular case, they work very well
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• 367[01:54:35] <FightingFalcon> yes i know
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• 371[01:55:47] <jim> you should consider postgres, it has a lot of ways for the database designer to prevent db corruption (more so than some others)
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• 373[01:57:06] <FightingFalcon> better than mariadb?
• 374[01:57:22] <jim> when you first look at it, it looks like a lot of stuff to learn... but, when you get used to it, it's not as complex, especially to manage
• 375[01:57:36] <jim> probably (not totally sure)
• 376[01:57:42] <annadane> eww 3rd party repos
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• 379[01:58:05] <annadane> i'd use that as last resort if you seriously can't replaced-url
• 380[01:58:21] <jim> annadane, I'm pretty sure the "third parties" in this case are postgresql devs and debian devs
• 381[01:58:29] <FightingFalcon> annadane thanks
• 382[01:58:33] <annadane> i guess, that's fair enough
• 383[01:58:43] <FightingFalcon> are my current mariadb databases compatible with postgress?
• 384[01:58:48] <annadane> just be aware that though this may be trustworthy, others may/will not be
• 385[02:00:45] <jim> FightingFalcon, no, not binary compatible, and also not compatible in some other ways. they may or may not fit particular applications that were designed around other dbs. and, both maria and postgres are relational databases, so they work in similar ways
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• 457[02:42:17] <rant> anyone know of a wav editor that perhaps is lighter than audacity? simple copy/cut/paste features are what I'm looking for
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• 484[03:12:19] <rant> fwiw at first glance anyhow, sweep seems to be the tool.. its not as nice an interface, but it seems to run more smoothly on old systems than audacity and have all the same features
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• 486[03:14:25] <rant> strangely enough while the waveform display seems to be less resource intensive and less polished, it seems to have a better detail/resolution than audacity
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• 546[03:42:07] <zumba_ad_> Evening folks. I'm currently using bunselabs on virtualbox. I love it. Are there other debian I can try which you think I will fall in love to it too?
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• 548[03:43:04] <themill> #debian normally just recommends debian.
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• 563[03:55:07] <zumba_ad_> got it. Thanks
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• 579[04:10:43] <AmR|EiSa> Hello
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• 581[04:10:50] <AmR|EiSa> I try install winehq
• 582[04:11:03] <AmR|EiSa> as in replaced-url
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• 585[04:11:42] <AmR|EiSa> I add deb replaced-url
• 586[04:11:42] <AmR|EiSa> Failed to fetch replaced-url
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• 592[04:14:50] <themill> AmR|EiSa: you probably should ask them about it... but I'd bet you were supposed to put something there instead of DISTRO
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• 594[04:15:06] <Finalight> hello everyone. i'm having a bit confusion over here with ssh keys. I set one up for my home/isp, but problem is when I am out at other locations. I can't ssh into my own machine. Any ideas?
• 595[04:15:13] <themill> AmR|EiSa: (just like it says on that page)
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• 601[04:21:58] <Finalight> anyone around
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• 651[04:52:59] <cluelessperson> hi there, sorry to bother you guys, but it appears that I'm getting, from one server to another, about 81 mbps
• 652[04:53:10] <cluelessperson> over openvpn when they have a gigabit connection?
• 653[04:53:13] <cluelessperson> that seems really wrong
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• 655[04:53:58] <cluelessperson> through the gigabit port, I seem to get 400Mb/s
• 656[04:54:05] <cluelessperson> should be more like 800
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• 658[04:55:47] <cluelessperson> nvm, I am getting more like 800
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• 877[07:42:46] <asterismo_l> hi
• 878[07:43:05] <asterismo_l> i upgraded from jessie to stretch and dovecot wont start
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• 881[07:44:12] <somiaj> start by looking at the logs, with journalctl or systemctl status, and see what errors are being reported.
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• 884[07:45:42] <asterismo_l> it complains about not finding the file /etc/ssl/certs/StarCom_Certification_Authority.pem
• 885[07:45:55] <asterismo_l> that file is not in the system anyway
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• 887[07:46:37] <asterismo_l> it prompted about the dovecot configuration and i choose the default=N and keep the previous file
• 888[07:47:54] <asterismo_l> how con i fix this?
• 889[07:47:58] <asterismo_l> can*
• 890[07:48:23] <asterismo_l> is there anyway to see the default conf file fer dovecot in stretch?
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• 902[07:58:13] <asterismo_l> i got it
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• 933[08:13:55] <lavenders> how to change timezone
• 934[08:14:00] <lavenders> tzconfig?
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• 939[08:15:49] <rjsalts> I usually prefer to do it by plane
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• 961[08:30:17] <darxmurf> rjsalts: it's not always working :D
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• 1009[08:53:37] <blob> Hello, I'm having some issues with debian stretch 9.3.0 in virtualbox (installing guest additions, it seems it can't load vboxvideo)
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• 1026[08:57:34] <blingrang> Hi, all of a sudden my apt-updates are failing due to "Unable to connect to packages.dotdeb.org:http: [IP: 2001:bc8:21eb:100::1 80]"
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• 1076[09:18:42] <bolt> blingrang: is your ipv6 connection working for other things?
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• 1078[09:19:01] <blingrang> yeah.
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• 1080[09:19:33] <blingrang> I can't even open dotdeb.org.
• 1081[09:19:55] <blingrang> I think it may not be working from here .
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• 1146[09:59:07] <colinl> hi folks! Does someone have information about why updated kernel packages aren't yet available for Debian 8?
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• 1148[10:00:31] <darxmurf> I would say, why don't you upgrade to 9 ?
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• 1150[10:01:13] <annadane> that's not the proper answer; jessie is still supported
• 1151[10:01:32] <annadane> anyway, i know they're working on it for jessie
• 1152[10:01:46] <annadane> i don't know why it's not done yet
• 1153[10:01:54] <k_sze[work]> There's still no Debian certification like RHCE's counterpart, right?
• 1154[10:02:06] <k_sze[work]> The closest thing is the one for Ubuntu from Canonical?
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• 1166[10:07:47] <work2live4love8> cheers- hope this is the right forum.. have a question I find a little hard to google; I have a number of PCs with debian for several different users, using the same base image. Then one of the users uses apt to install some additional package that he needs. This package is probably dependent on many other packages which are installed on his PC. Thats all great. Now: is there a way that he could "export" his "installation" to
• 1167[10:07:47] <work2live4love8> me, so that he -or other users- can get that same package installation for a new PC without having to connect to the internet or a local mirror the next time they get that same 'old image I provide them? I think what Im looking for is some sort of package bundling (including the deb files) of the reverse depends of a certain package. any ideas?
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• 1198[10:23:30] <petn-randall> work2live4love8: Sure, that's possible:
• 1199[10:23:34] <petn-randall> !debian clone
• 1200[10:23:34] <dpkg> One method of cloning Debian installs is to take a current Debian machine that is set up with the packages you want and run the command "dpkg --get-selections > ~/selectionfile". Then, after the base install on other machines use that file and do: "dpkg --set-selections < ~/selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade". Also ask me about <aptitude clone>, <reinstall>, <things to backup> <apt-clone>.
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• 1202[10:24:30] <petn-randall> work2live4love8: Oh, I misread your question. You're looking for something like apt-cacher-ng.
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• 1218[10:27:13] <k_sze[work]> petn-randall: does `dpkg --get-selections` pin down the version numbers?
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• 1221[10:29:16] <petn-randall> k_sze[work]: no
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• 1225[10:30:19] <k_sze[work]> Yeah, that's always been the thing that bugs me about dpkg --get-selections.
• 1226[10:30:41] <k_sze[work]> I tried to use it a while ago and found it deficient.
• 1227[10:31:26] <k_sze[work]> !debian aptitude clone
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• 1232[10:34:01] <petn-randall> k_sze[work]: That would be:
• 1233[10:34:05] <petn-randall> !aptitude clone
• 1234[10:34:05] <dpkg> To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search --disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>.
• 1235[10:34:24] <petn-randall> k_sze[work]: However, it's better to ask the bot directly, unless you want to show something in the channel.
• 1236[10:34:46] <k_sze[work]> like /msg dpkg ...?
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• 1238[10:35:07] <petn-randall> k_sze[work]: yes
• 1239[10:36:05] <petn-randall> k_sze[work]: The bot will happily respond to any factoids you /msg it. "listkeys <keyword>" and "listvalues <keyword>" is also a useful way to search for information.
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• 1248[10:41:02] <work2live4love8> wow, thanks a lot! I will look into that!
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• 1279[10:53:53] <jelly> colinl: because it takes a lot of work to make them. If you're only worried about meltdown mitigation you can try using kernel build from jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.5-amd64
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• 1324[11:14:46] <colinl> hi jelly, thanks for your reply
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• 1328[11:15:44] <colinl> I'm considering that but will wait a bit more, wouldn't want to break production servers with a backported kernel without tests extensive enough
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• 1351[11:33:56] <petn-randall> colinl: IMHO it only amplifies what any malware can carry away from the system. If you don't run any untrusted code on your machines the impact is fairly low (for now).
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• 1366[11:41:58] <ezdev> petn-randall, why do you add "for now"
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• 1368[11:42:17] <ezdev> note that was largely my impression as well (re: vectors/impact)
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• 1382[11:50:25] <colinl> petn-randall: yeah, it's pretty local for now, on servers with no local users it can "only" worsen things in case of remote exploits in the running services
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• 1384[11:51:04] <ezdev> colinl, and javascript
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• 1386[11:51:30] <ezdev> but thats on the desktop side
• 1387[11:51:37] <colinl> yes
• 1388[11:51:54] <FinalX> colinl: we run a lot of servers, but only a handful can e used to run uncontrolled code from third-parties (shared webhosting, shell servers). those we forcibly upgraded to stretch. rest is still running jessie with a vulnerable kernel, we accept that risk as they're completely isolated. we also still have some wheezy machines, who also already got a fixed kernel.
• 1389[11:52:10] <FinalX> kvm and firefox and all also got updates for it
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• 1391[11:52:19] <FinalX> spectre isn't fixed in any of the 3 btw
• 1392[11:52:22] <colinl> yes, surprisingly enough, they came faster on wheezy :)
• 1393[11:53:08] <FinalX> well, the kernel in wheezy was probably easier to fix than in jessie, and stretch is stable so probably got most attention first (plus probably better one-on-one compatibility with the official linux kernel patches)
• 1394[11:53:22] <FinalX> but, just guessing
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• 1396[11:54:15] <FinalX> we're also currently pondering to keep the security patches disabled on certain heavily loaded database servers that are quite isolated due to the alleged performance decrease, but we're gonna test that for ourselves first. most machines are severely overspecced anyway.
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• 1418[12:00:01] <petn-randall> ezdev: I added "for now" because there isn't any consensus on the real impact, how good the mitigations are, or even if this can be fully mitigated in software (especially the spectre bug).
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• 1435[12:05:16] <f4cl3y> Hello Guys, Did Debian release the patch for CVE-2017-5754 already, I can see in the tracker that it is fixed for Debian9 but I can't see it in the upgrade list.
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• 1437[12:06:51] <FinalX> Meltdown/CVE-2017-5754 is fixed in wheezy and stretch, but not jessie.
• 1438[12:07:09] <FinalX> Spectre/CVE-2017-5753+CVE-2017-5715 is not fixed in any.
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• 1440[12:07:45] <babilen> f4cl3y: You might not have a suitable kernel metapackage installed. What does "apt update" and "apt policy linux-image-4.9.0-3-amd64" give you?
• 1441[12:07:59] <FinalX> also see replaced-url
• 1442[12:08:15] <FinalX> You need to have the debian-security repo enabled.
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• 1445[12:08:37] <FinalX> For wheezy you need to run 3.2.96-3, for stretch it's 4.9.65-3+deb9u2.
• 1446[12:09:09] <FinalX> (and for sid 4.14.12-2)
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• 1475[12:25:19] <f4cl3y> babilen: I have 'Candidate: 4.9.30-2+deb9u5'
• 1476[12:25:32] <f4cl3y> FinalX: I have the secuirty part enabled.
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• 1478[12:27:10] <f4cl3y> According to that tracker the patched version is 4.9.65-3+deb9u2
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• 1480[12:27:19] <FinalX> Correct
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• 1482[12:27:54] <FinalX> whl-host1 :: ~ » apt-cache policy linux-image-4.9.0-5-amd64
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• 1484[12:27:59] <FinalX> Installed: 4.9.65-3+deb9u2
• 1485[12:28:23] <FinalX> and that comes from: deb replaced-url
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• 1490[12:30:56] <NetTerminalGene> wow. wayland on gnome so smooth
• 1491[12:31:04] <NetTerminalGene> but there are bugs :/
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• 1495[12:31:46] <FinalX> afaik it's only out for testing.. so bound to be bugs, yeah :)
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• 1498[12:32:45] <babilen> f4cl3y: It would help if you could paste the output of both commands
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• 1500[12:33:23] <babilen> "apt policy linux-image-4.9.0-5-amd64" also
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• 1503[12:34:22] <f4cl3y> FinalX: have the correct one after installing 4.9.0-5 I had the 4.9.0-3, why isn't the upgrade done automatically?
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• 1508[12:35:48] <FinalX> hum, that's for you to figure out. Debian does no automatic updates by default, you have to enable it with things like unattended-upgrades. Plus, with kernels, you'd have to reboot anyway and that might not be convenient to do automatically. (if it is, you can also tell unattended-upgrades to do so).
• 1509[12:36:22] <FinalX> Updating automatically can introduce problems.
• 1510[12:36:35] <NetTerminalGene> will wayland be default on debian buster?
• 1511[12:36:52] <FinalX> For instance, not long ago, our entire webhosting cluster got rebooted automatically with a new kernel security update, but Debian messed up with the kernel and the entire platform was down with kernel panics afterwards.
• 1512[12:37:05] <FinalX> (never happened before tbh)
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• 1514[12:37:29] <f4cl3y> FinalX: I see, thank you :)
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• 1548[12:56:40] <anexit> Hey all, I'm keep getting packet write wait in debian. Oddly enough I did a fresh install on another workstation and it works fine. I've removed openssh from this debian box and reinstall but in vein.
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• 1550[12:57:08] <anexit> My only thought is too just reinstall the OS but that seems silly
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• 1553[13:02:09] <babilen> f4cl3y: You might want to install a suitable kernel metapackage such as linux-image-amd64
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• 1555[13:02:42] <babilen> (they might trail behind a little bit though)
• 1556[13:02:50] <babilen> judd: depends linux-image-amd64
• 1557[13:02:51] <judd> Package linux-image-amd64 in stretch/amd64 -- depends: linux-image-4.9.0-4-amd64.
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• 1559[13:03:10] <babilen> That dependency will be upgraded in due course. Right now you'd have to explicitly install the -5- package.
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• 1561[13:03:45] <babilen> It's a good idea to have a metapackage installed if you like to see automatic kernel upgrades from one ABI version to another
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• 1570[13:12:25] <MMP> Question: FGLRX on Debian 9 = impossible? I need FGLRX for backlight support >_>
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• 1573[13:13:37] <flux242> hi, how would one blacklist a driver which is not loaded? I mean I see this by loading replaced-url
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• 1586[13:19:53] <towo^work> MMP, fglrx is dead
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• 1590[13:20:33] <MMP> Well, RIP.... what about amdgpu or something?
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• 1596[13:21:19] <towo^work> MMP, you want radeon, amdgpu would never work, if your card was working with fglrx
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• 1598[13:21:34] <towo^work> and for radeon, you need firmware-linux-nonfree
• 1599[13:21:53] <MMP> The open source driver? Yeah that doesn't work
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• 1609[13:23:29] <towo^work> MMP, is that firmware installed?
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• 1615[13:23:33] <MMP> That's the problem because on Deb9, only the open source driver is availble
• 1616[13:23:38] <MMP> Oh yes it is
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• 1623[13:24:27] <MMP> Everything works, it's just that the backlight is broken and so are all FN keys. (And video playback is garbage)
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• 1645[13:33:37] <Brigo> MMP you can get non free drivers from non-free repository.
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• 1647[13:34:39] <MMP> Which one do you mean? If it's FGLRX then it's simply a 404
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• 1653[13:37:45] <konimex> amdgpu-pro?
• 1654[13:38:13] <towo^work> for a gpu, which formaly was running with fglrx?
• 1655[13:38:25] <towo^work> i don't think, that would work
• 1656[13:38:46] <towo^work> and btw, amdgpu-pro is not in debian
• 1657[13:38:53] <MMP> This is a HP 15 laptop with R2 graphics.
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• 1659[13:39:10] <MMP> And yeah I knew that, I tried to find that package, can't seem to find it
• 1660[13:39:35] <towo^work> lspci | egrep -i "vga|3d|display"
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• 1662[13:40:10] <MMP> 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon R2 Graphics]
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• 1669[13:42:28] <optraz> how do i upgrade cuda version in debian?
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• 1672[13:44:16] <Brigo> optraz, apt upgrade should upgrade it to the las available version.
• 1673[13:44:34] <Brigo> optraz, what vesion do you need and what debian version are you using?
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• 1676[13:45:24] <optraz> nvcc --version show 8.0 and i need minimum 9.0
• 1677[13:45:37] <optraz> Brigo: ^^
• 1678[13:46:04] <gpunk> what debian version are you using? :)
• 1679[13:46:19] <optraz> testing/buster
• 1680[13:46:37] <gpunk> ,v nvcc
• 1681[13:46:38] <judd> No package named 'nvcc' was found in amd64.
• 1682[13:46:48] <gpunk> ,v cuda
• 1683[13:46:49] <judd> No package named 'cuda' was found in amd64.
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• 1685[13:46:59] <Brigo> ,v libcuda1
• 1686[13:47:00] <judd> Package: libcuda1 on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 304.131-1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.102-1~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.102-1; jessie-backports/non-free: 375.82-1~deb9u1~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 375.82-1~deb9u1; stretch-backports/non-free: 384.98-3~bpo9+1; buster/non-free: 384.98-3; sid/non-free: 384.111-1; experimental/non-free: 387.34-2
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• 1688[13:47:22] <Brigo> not very verbose.
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• 1694[13:49:03] <optraz> Brigo: yes, current installed ii libcuda1:amd64 384.98-3
• 1695[13:49:09] <Brigo> optraz, you have to figure out what version of nvidia driver ships the cuda version 9
• 1696[13:49:16] <optraz> do u know when will 9.0 released to debian repositoroy?
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• 1700[13:50:01] <gpunk> ,v nvidia-cuda-toolkit
• 1701[13:50:02] <judd> Package: nvidia-cuda-toolkit on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 4.2.9-2; wheezy-backports/non-free: 5.5.22-6~bpo70+2; jessie/non-free: 6.0.37-5; jessie-backports/non-free: 7.5.18-4~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 8.0.44-4; buster/non-free: 8.0.61-3; sid/non-free: 8.0.61-3; experimental/non-free: 9.0.176-1
• 1702[13:50:13] <gpunk> it is in exp ...
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• 1705[13:51:20] <Brigo> optraz, then you will need to wait still it is ready for use, or you can try to install it from experimental, not recomended, at all.
• 1706[13:51:39] <optraz> hmm
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• 1709[13:53:17] <optraz> Brigo: do they have estimate when unstable will release to testing?
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• 1712[13:53:55] <Brigo> optraz, 5 days if no big bugs show up.
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• 1714[13:54:02] <optraz> 5 days?! where u see that?
• 1715[13:54:03] <Brigo> automaticaly, i mean
• 1716[13:54:16] <Brigo> it is how it works.
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• 1719[13:54:42] <gpunk> 5 days, I doubt it
• 1720[13:55:08] <Brigo> you upload a pacakge to unstable and it get in 5 days to testing if there is no issue.
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• 1724[13:56:24] <Brigo> The package has been in "unstable" at least for 2-10 days (depending on the urgency of the upload).
• 1725[13:56:25] <optraz> so is there any estimate ?
• 1726[13:56:52] <optraz> where do u see the detail , Brigo
• 1727[13:56:54] <Brigo> if the package were is unstable yes, but it is in experimental
• 1728[13:57:15] <Brigo> a very secretive page only for very wise users: replaced-url
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• 1730[13:58:12] <Brigo> experimental is for, you know, experiments and you can't tell the time the package will be there, even the maintainers can't tell.
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• 1732[13:58:44] <optraz> Brigo: how do i up the urgency? :D
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• 1737[14:00:46] <Brigo> you can try experimental packages, check the bugs firs, though.
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• 1739[14:01:52] <Brigo> optraz, top secret too: replaced-url
• 1740[14:01:54] <optraz> how do i upgrade to 9.0 and reset back to where i am now if i found a problem?
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• 1742[14:02:22] <Brigo> optraz, keep the list of package you have now and the list you are going to install.
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• 1745[14:02:39] <gpunk> it is a oneway ticket man
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• 1747[14:02:41] <gpunk> lol
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• 1749[14:03:01] <optraz> dpkg -l > before; apt-get -t experimental install nvidia-cuda-toolkit ; dpkg -l > after; ?
• 1750[14:03:01] <dpkg> ii > before; apt-get -t experimental install nvidia-cuda-toolkit ; dpkg -l > after; 2.1-11.3 optraz's private stamp collection
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• 1753[14:03:18] <Brigo> there is no warrant
• 1754[14:03:28] <optraz> ah crap
• 1755[14:03:29] <optraz> lol
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• 1760[14:04:19] <optraz> if and only if i can up the urgency :D
• 1761[14:04:23] <optraz> like a +1 button
• 1762[14:04:24] <optraz> haha
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• 1765[14:06:08] <optraz> thanks Brigo
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• 1772[14:06:49] <gpunk> wlc
• 1773[14:08:34] <ashka> hi, I'm trying to upgrade a jessie server to linux 4.9 from backports, but it freezes while booting with this weird screen: replaced-url
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• 1775[14:09:15] <gpunk> what video card do you have?
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• 1779[14:10:33] <ashka> gpunk: embedded server video, I do not have the exact one at the moment
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• 1783[14:11:02] <gpunk> you seem like loading a DE, right ? (kde or gnome...)
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• 1786[14:11:32] <ashka> no, there is no graphical environment
• 1787[14:11:51] <gpunk> why do I see a mouse cursor ? bottom right
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• 1789[14:12:51] <ashka> gpunk: this is from my workstation, I have connected to the server's display remotely
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• 1791[14:13:07] <gpunk> oh ok
• 1792[14:14:31] <gpunk> without the make model of your video card, i cant help ; but what you can do
• 1793[14:14:49] <gpunk> is get into grub menu and disable loading the graphics
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• 1798[14:18:29] <jdennis1> So php.net says they are ending security support for PHP 7.0 on 12/3/2018. What does that mean for the PHP 7 package in debian stable? I know buster won't be out by then. Will a PHP 7.1 package become available in stretch that won't require a backport?
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• 1803[14:20:20] <FinalX> jdennis1: Debian security team will backport security fixes and important bugfixes.
• 1804[14:20:32] <ashka> gpunk: okay, well it does boot with nomodeset. I'll have to find a more permanent solution but in the mean time it'll work. thanks!
• 1805[14:20:34] <FinalX> And no, you will not suddenly see a higher major version of PHP.
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• 1807[14:20:55] <gpunk_> :)
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• 1812[14:22:11] <gpunk> ashka modify: /etc/defaut/grub and run update-grub ...
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• 1818[14:24:06] <Iridos> ashka, ah, good… :) I was going to suggest something along those lines, but couldn't find the exact name of the option
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• 1821[14:24:57] <jdennis1> FinalX: thank you for your response
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• 1823[14:25:08] <f4cl3y> babilen: Thank you :)
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• 1838[14:31:42] <ashka> gpunk: btw, this is the gpu replaced-url
• 1839[14:32:16] <gpunk> oh thats old :)
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• 1846[14:36:13] <ashka> gpunk: oddly it doesn't seem to be related, just did the same update on another server that has the same vga card and it boots fine
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• 1849[14:36:37] <gpunk> so the that card is difonctional
• 1850[14:36:52] <gpunk> watch it , you may want to change the motherboard
• 1851[14:37:33] <ashka> yeah I'll keep an eye on it, thanks
• 1852[14:38:29] <kale> i have some bad hardware, but also having trouble finding what hardware it is. The result is that the machine crashes or btrfs is inconsistent after copying a large number of files. i ran memtest86 for 2 days and smartctl on all disks. but that did not find anything. what tools can i use to go further?
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• 1866[14:42:07] <kale> what about voltage, is there a way i can watch the voltage?
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• 1868[14:42:50] <gpunk> oscilloscope / multimeter ?
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• 1873[14:44:41] <kale> readout from the system itself, i know that it can be watched in the BIOS
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• 1875[14:45:15] <gpunk> install sensord or the or the like
• 1876[14:45:28] <gpunk> thn you got applets to watch it
• 1877[14:45:45] <gpunk> package lm-sensors i think
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• 1887[14:50:29] <kale> from the sensors i can read the voltage is pretty much stable. but i have detached my cupholder. so there is a small difference. Will try with other RAM modules if this test fails too.
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• 1889[14:51:09] <gpunk> ok
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• 1952[15:28:39] <epigramx> what was the procedure again to debug apt-get install conflicts?
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• 1955[15:30:13] <epigramx> trying to get libgstreamer1.0-dev:i386 on sid and it depends on an uninstallable file which I bet might be normal but I wonder if I miss something.
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• 1957[15:30:48] <gpunk> so where is the conflict?
• 1958[15:31:03] <epigramx> not strictly conflict, bad choice of words.
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• 1962[15:31:29] <epigramx> it wants gir1.2-gstreamer-1.0:i386 but it can't install it.
• 1963[15:31:57] <unreturned> Hello! Please, tell, Debian Installer support install via VNC? Like replaced-url
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• 1965[15:32:18] <epigramx> hrm, if I do try to install that manually it tries to uninstall gnome
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• 1967[15:32:57] <petn-randall> unreturned: No, however you can use SSH to continue the installation.
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• 1970[15:34:50] <unreturned> petn-randall, Thanks
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• 1974[15:37:09] <epigramx> anyone got a method that does "uninstall packages you no longer have the repo in apt sources"?
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• 1977[15:38:13] <petn-randall> epigramx: If you're running sid, try #debian-next on irc.oftc.net.
• 1978[15:38:17] <petn-randall> !debian-next
• 1979[15:38:17] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
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• 1982[15:39:52] <jelly> !obsolete
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• 1984[15:39:52] <dpkg> If you remove a repository from your sources.list (e.g. removing <dmm>), then you should check what packages you have installed from the other repository. Synaptic and aptitude have a "Obsolete and Locally Created Packages" list. Or, "aptitude search ~o". Note this doesn't include packages that exist in the repo at a different version to the one you have installed; see <not available> <list repositories>.
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• 1997[15:46:15] <turlando> Hello everyone
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• 2001[15:46:40] <epigramx> I guess this caveat only means you should upgrade or/and dist-upgrade before, I hope it's not more cryptic "Note this doesn't include packages that exist in the repo at a different version to the one you have installed"
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• 2003[15:46:55] <turlando> I'm trying to find the source for the Debian Amazon Machine Images but I couldn't find them
• 2004[15:47:04] <turlando> Any pointer?
• 2005[15:48:54] <tiny> How do I setup locales in FAI noninteractively.
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• 2009[15:49:12] <tiny> for boxes that will get installed with FAI that is.
• 2010[15:49:32] <tiny> I have to manualy "dpkg-reconfigure locale" after
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• 2056[16:13:38] <fti7> Guys, which is the real Kernel Version for wheezy with the Meltdown patch? on the Security tracker it says 3.2.96-3, but i get only 3.2.96-2.
• 2057[16:14:00] <fti7> replaced-url
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• 2059[16:16:47] <petn-randall> fti7: That usually means that the updated packages is making its way into the repo, but isn't available everywhere yet.
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• 2062[16:19:11] <fti7> ah ok, thx for the info
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• 2066[16:20:36] <petn-randall> fti7: I'd wait 6 hours and check if it available again.
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• 2069[16:21:38] <jelly> security.debian.org mirrors aren't on a 6 hour sync, are they?
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• 2072[16:23:15] <petn-randall> Was just a arbitrary number, I don't really know how s.d.o is handled.
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• 2124[16:47:52] <wpostma> I'm having trouble resetting and logging into the debian wiki. It's saying "Invalid username or password" after each login attempt, even though I just reset my password and I'm entering it properly.
• 2125[16:48:18] <wpostma> I wanted to contribute some edits to the wiki but seem unable to.
• 2126[16:48:19] <gpunk> try by: copy/paste
• 2127[16:48:46] <somiaj> wpostma: did you just create an account or have you had one?
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• 2129[16:49:38] <wpostma> somiaj: Its an old one. username wpostma
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• 2131[16:50:42] <somiaj> wpostma: then unsure what the issue is. I just recall some issue creating new accounts. You may have to email one of the wiki matainers
• 2132[16:50:54] <wpostma> ok. thanks.
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• 2186[17:13:18] <kai_w> I can't get unix extensions (stat, chmod, etc) working on my samba server. smb.conf has "unix extensions = yes" in [global].
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• 2189[17:13:36] <kai_w> any ideas on what I may have missed?
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• 2216[17:24:32] <Joker_ian> hey guys
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• 2218[17:26:35] <wpostma> kai_w: you restarted samba?
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• 2280[17:43:59] <moldy> hi
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• 2289[17:45:47] <CannedSp1nach> what's the normal way to use one of these hosted fixes? replaced-url
• 2290[17:45:51] <CannedSp1nach> just trying to fix a bug
• 2291[17:46:33] <moldy> how do i best check if i have the right kernel version with the latest patches installed?
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• 2293[17:47:13] <moldy> the DSA notification email mentions version "4.9.65-3+deb9u2". that seems to be the source package version, i am not sure how to compare this against my installed kernel.
• 2294[17:47:33] <greycat> moldy: uname -a
• 2295[17:48:12] <greycat> In stretch, the most recent patched kernels have a whole new ABI. So it'll be 4.9.0-5-amd64 instead of 4.9.0-4-amd64 or earlier.
• 2296[17:48:19] <moldy> greycat: 4.9.0-4-amd64
• 2297[17:48:27] <greycat> then you are not on the latest stable patched kernel yet
• 2298[17:48:44] <moldy> greycat: how would the output look if i was? 4.9.65-something?
• 2299[17:48:47] <greycat> You might have installed it but not yet rebooted. Or it might not be installed at all.
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• 2302[17:49:02] <greycat> wooledg:~$ uname -a
• 2303[17:49:02] <greycat> Linux wooledg 4.9.0-5-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.65-3+deb9u2 (2018-01-04) x86_64 GNU/Linux
• 2304[17:49:17] <cybrNaut> !tell cybrNaut about ssb
• 2305[17:49:22] <cybrNaut> ,v okular
• 2306[17:49:24] <judd> Package: okular on amd64 -- wheezy: 4:4.8.4-3+b1; jessie: 4:4.14.2-2; stretch: 4:16.08.2-1+b1; buster: 4:17.08.3-2; sid: 4:17.08.3-2
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• 2308[17:50:04] <moldy> greycat: ok, thanks. i was looking at /boot to determine wether i am just missing a reboot, but could not see how to match the versions there against the source package.
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• 2312[17:50:26] <greycat> "ls /boot" is useful to see if the kernel is installed and you just haven't rebooted yet.
• 2313[17:50:51] <greycat> if there's both vmlinuz-4.9.0-4-amd64 AND vmlinuz-4.9.0-5-amd64 then it's installed and you just need to reboot
• 2314[17:50:53] <moldy> greycat: yeah, but it isn't obvious that vmlinuz-4.9.0-5-amd64 is the right version :)
• 2315[17:51:05] <greycat> I have been telling you that it is.
• 2316[17:51:21] <moldy> greycat: yes, thank you. i do wonder how to solve this in general though, not just in this specific instance.
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• 2318[17:51:39] <cybrNaut> would ",v okular" show backport versions if there were any?
• 2319[17:51:45] <greycat> yes
• 2320[17:52:04] <cybrNaut> thanks
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• 2322[17:52:40] <petn-randall> moldy: The more general approach would be to run `dpkg -l 'linux-image*'` and check the version number.
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• 2324[17:52:44] <moldy> for example, i may want to write a script to run against a bunch of servers to see check if they are vulnerable. i guess i could check `uname -v`
• 2325[17:52:46] <JethroTux> hello, I'm getting "The following packages have been kept back" with linux-image-amd64 package while updating the system. Should I give a dist-upgrade or leave it? I'm running debian jessie, thanks
• 2326[17:53:13] <moldy> petn-randall: ahh, that is helpful. thanks!
• 2327[17:53:18] <greycat> moldy: Yes, because it's a kernel, just installing is NOT enough -- you also have to reboot. So you would need to check uname's output to see whether it has actually booted the new kernel.
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• 2329[17:53:48] <cybrNaut> "okular -v" gives "0.26.1", but "aptitude show okular" gives version "4:16.08.2-1+b1".. why the difference? is it 0.26.1 that I should put on upstream bug reports?
• 2330[17:53:52] <moldy> greycat: yup, i am aware of that :) both checking wether the kernel is installed on disk and checking wether the system is actually running it is useful.
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• 2336[17:55:49] <greycat> I don't know anything about okular or why it has two different version numbers.
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• 2338[17:55:58] <JethroTux> anybody?
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• 2340[17:56:10] <greycat> JethroTux: use dist-upgrade
• 2341[17:56:50] <JethroTux> greycat, is it safe? I'd rather not break anything
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• 2343[17:57:07] <greycat> If you're running stable, oldstable, or oldoldstable, it should be safe.
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• 2359[18:02:21] <CannedSpinach> this error is infuriating me because it is interfering with my ability to even apt-get upgrade. I can't even apt-get remove samba without seeing this same error repeatedly. any help would be appreciated.
• 2360[18:02:25] <CannedSpinach> replaced-url
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• 2362[18:02:44] <CannedSpinach> I tried systemctl disable samba-ac-dc.service and this doesn't seem to have any effect
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• 2365[18:03:15] <CannedSpinach> I thought this problem was just making Samba unusable but it is actually causing problems for the whole machine.
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• 2372[18:06:33] <CannedSpinach> I don't know why apt-get won't even let me remove Samba without consequently trying to set up Samba
• 2373[18:06:36] <CannedSpinach> doesn't make any sense
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• 2381[18:09:18] <jhutchins_wk> CannedSpinach: Do you suppose dpkg-reconfigure samba might fix it?
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• 2383[18:10:12] <CannedSpinach> jhutchins_wk: it gives the error that Samba is broken or not fully installed
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• 2392[18:12:27] <CannedSpinach> well at least I can remove Samba with dpkg -r
• 2393[18:12:39] <CannedSpinach> maybe that will at least let me get updates without receiving errors
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• 2395[18:14:15] <CannedSpinach> hey, at least I can get upgrades again and use apt-get normally
• 2396[18:14:19] <CannedSpinach> that's a plus
• 2397[18:14:27] <CannedSpinach> now it's just a matter of being able to use Samba properly
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• 2417[18:23:01] <armin> hi, my sshd refuses to start up because /run/sshd is not present at startup time. manually creating that directory using mkdir -p will let sshd start again. anyone experienced that before?
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• 2431[18:34:07] <jhutchins_wk> CannedSpinach: Which release are you on?
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• 2433[18:34:53] <eck> how come my debian installation does not have a man page for dc(1) ?
• 2434[18:35:03] <eck> i have manpages and manpages-dev installed
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• 2437[18:36:09] <eck> oh wait, PEBCAK
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• 2439[18:36:16] <eck> i assumed dc was installed by coreutils and it's not
• 2440[18:36:21] <kai_w> wpostma: yep, restarted samba
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• 2443[18:37:08] <eck> armin: in generally the /run directories should be created by systemd when you launch a service using systemctl
• 2444[18:37:26] <eck> if you are invoking sshd directly you may run into problems
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• 2454[18:40:09] <kion> How do I tell my laptop what to do (hibernate,suspend,shutdown) when I close the lid?
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• 2457[18:40:52] <V7> Is it possible to save to a variable output from ls without showing error if file|folder might doesn't exist ?
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• 2467[18:46:52] <jelly> V7: using output of ls is usually not an optimal solution. What are you trying to accomplish really?
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• 2470[18:47:24] <jelly> !goal
• 2471[18:47:24] <dpkg> Describe your goal, not what you think the solution is.
• 2472[18:48:39] <V7> jelly: I'm trying to get an owner or path in script
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• 2474[18:49:34] <greycat> Fuckikng crossposter.
• 2475[18:49:55] <greycat> He's bothering #Bash with this too. It's an X-Y problem and he is a stubborn jackass who will not cough up the X.
• 2476[18:50:13] <V7> So yup
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• 2478[18:50:25] <greycat> So *plonk*
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• 2481[18:50:34] <V7> cause they're asking why I want to get an owner of file
• 2482[18:50:42] <V7> that's not the question
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• 2486[18:51:06] <V7> So why I shouldn't ask the same question separately on different channels ?
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• 2489[18:52:17] <pos> ub still haven't pushed kernel updates, what is this...
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• 2491[18:53:19] <petn-randall> !tell V7 -about crosspost
• 2492[18:54:15] <V7> ... crosspost ... oh damn ...
• 2493[18:54:42] <debcur5616> Guys I setup a vsftpd server with virtual users following one of the guides i found around
• 2494[18:55:11] <debcur5616> However I match this error: 500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot()
• 2495[18:55:52] <debcur5616> This is understandeable... indeed i don't want a writable chroot but at least the user should be able to write inside a dir..
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• 2497[18:56:11] <debcur5616> Because i want each user being able to write at least inside it's folder :\
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• 2499[18:56:55] <greycat> So create a writable subdirectory.
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• 2501[18:57:26] <debcur5616> mmh the point is that my users are dumb.. can't i allow users to write directly inside that root folder ?
• 2502[18:57:47] <V7> greycat: ignored
• 2503[18:58:04] <oo_miguel> I just started using slrn to follow some usenet groups and wonder why the count of unread articles is significantly lower than the number of total articles for some groups, even though I have not read anything yet..
• 2504[18:58:25] <V7> Btw. The script doesn't install anything. It doesn't work with any packages. It just checks the already configured settings and files.
• 2505[18:58:26] <debcur5616> ftp folder for user1 is basically /var/ftp/user1
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• 2507[18:59:06] <debcur5616> so is already a folder only for the user1, it's specific configuration is local_root=/var/ftp/user1
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• 2544[19:10:13] <annadane> attention: jessie has now been patched for meltdown
• 2545[19:10:22] <V7> Btw the answer was to check the existence of file|path and they try to check it's permissions
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• 2593[19:26:35] <Janni> Hello there.
• 2594[19:27:17] <Janni> Does anybody know a version of the "watch" command which is scrollable?
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• 2596[19:27:38] <Iridos> how'd that work
• 2597[19:27:57] <Janni> It would be great to interactively looking at "git diff" while revising a commit.
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• 2600[19:28:11] <Janni> Iridos: concerning the UI or the implementation?
• 2601[19:28:45] <Iridos> this isn't really what you can do in a terminal …
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• 2604[19:29:09] <Iridos> you can always do while sleep 2; do somecommand ; done
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• 2606[19:29:19] <Epx998> On TFTP, if I fetch a squashfs, does fetch only support IP addresses and not hostnames?
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• 2608[19:29:57] <Janni> Iridos: Sure you can. watch only has to keep track of a scroll-position variable which the user can modify using the arrow keys, then apply a "tail" to its command.
• 2609[19:30:39] <CannedSpinach> jhutchin1_wk: sorry I was AFK. I'm on release 9.
• 2610[19:30:50] <Janni> replaced-url
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• 2614[19:32:09] <Iridos> well… most people there also mention a regular while loop
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• 2619[19:34:01] <Iridos> but - I think depending on the terminal - the constant new input kind of breaks scrolling
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• 2621[19:35:42] <Iridos> but in general… the thing watch does, is to present the changing output and keep terminal contents fixed… so watch is all that that a normal loop is not
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• 2627[19:37:47] <cybrNaut> oo_miguel: the general practice with usenet is to mark everything as "read" even if you've not read everything, just to highlight new messages coming in. You have little hope of reading every single post in most newsgroups. SLRN probably marked all as /read/ at one point, so you're looking at a recent retrieval
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• 2631[19:38:58] <pragomer> rsync --delete tells me that there is no space left on the device. data is 1600gb, backup-partition is 1800gb. is it possible that rsync tries first to copy the files and delete the non-existent at the end of the process??
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• 2634[19:39:23] <CannedSpinach> reposting since I still haven't gotten a working answer. any help would be appreciated. replaced-url
• 2635[19:39:24] <oo_miguel> cybrNaut: hmmm. Does this still hold true, even if I tell slrn to "uncatchup" % Mark all artilces as unread for a specific group?
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• 2637[19:39:35] <greycat> pragomer: yes.
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• 2639[19:39:52] <pragomer> omg this would explain everything :-)
• 2640[19:40:07] <oo_miguel> ... and Anyway I do not understand what the total number of articles in a newsgroup reflects?
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• 2642[19:40:25] <pragomer> but how could I solve it? I cannot delete everything everytime.. can i first delete the the files there are no longer existent and then copy the newer ones??
• 2643[19:40:35] <petn-randall> pragomer: Check the man page though, there are options for it to work differently (at the cost of losing data on the receiving side if not completed)
• 2644[19:40:38] <greycat> pragomer: sounds like a question for #rsync
• 2645[19:40:51] <greycat> (or yes, the multi-thousand-line man page)
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• 2648[19:41:40] <pragomer> ok... i got it.. the paramater, according to manpage is --delete-before
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• 2650[19:41:47] <pragomer> such simple.. thank you :-) :-)
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• 2654[19:42:36] <pragomer> jippie :-)
• 2655[19:42:38] <zbert> Hi everyone - i've just build a lot of packages (nvidia-driver 390) from svn ...how i solve the depedencies between the packages when installing via apt?
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• 2659[19:43:37] <petn-randall> zbert: via apt? apt does that for you.
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• 2661[19:43:57] <petn-randall> zbert: Or are you trying to install them via dpkg -i?
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• 2664[19:44:17] <zbert> oh, sry. - via dpkg -i (=
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• 2670[19:45:40] <Iridos> you can do apt-get -f install or aptitude -f install afterwards and apt will try to fix/repair the problem created by your added packages
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• 2674[19:46:35] <Iridos> try apt-get first, it is the simpler program… aptitude will ask you if you want to accept a solution, so you can have it look for different options if it tries to fix things by removing your just-installed packages
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• 2677[19:47:12] <Iridos> if that doesn't work, you probably created a situation that cannot be resolved from the repos you have available
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• 2679[19:47:15] <NetTerminalGene> in debian stretch, map app opens late. what is the problem?
• 2680[19:48:21] <armin> eck: i did try to start it using systemd, actually
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• 2694[19:52:12] <zbert> Iridos: apt-get -f install doesn't work - it just wants to remove the manual installed package ...should i try to resolve the problem by installing the packages manually ...cause: the packages are just there - but apt seems to know nothing about the builded packages.
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• 2700[19:54:15] <Iridos> don't just read the first 5 words I wrote?
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• 2702[19:54:20] <Iridos> Time for me togo.
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• 2780[20:27:02] <tunasalad> would anyone suggest a value oriented VPS provider supporting Debian out of the box? Apart from Digital Ocean/AWS.
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• 2782[20:27:17] <Adran> tunasalad: linode, vultr etc etc
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• 2791[20:29:51] <tunasalad> Adran: vultr is hardly value oriented, compared to DO. A 100GB SSD instance is $40/m while basically the same is hardly over $20 at D-O.
• 2792[20:30:13] <tunasalad> I can't see if I can make a custom plan
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• 2795[20:31:06] <Adran> 100GB SSD is not $20 a DO
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• 2799[20:31:53] <tunasalad> from what I remember when I connected an additional 100GB that was like $5 monthly.
• 2800[20:32:01] <tunasalad> likely wasn't SSD though.
• 2801[20:33:05] <tunasalad> anyway, I need something like 2 cores/4GB ram/100GB+ HDD/SSD/East Coast
• 2802[20:33:23] <tunasalad> 1TB transfer would be more than okay.
• 2803[20:33:58] <tunasalad> anything reputable that offers something like that at, say, $20/m?
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• 2806[20:34:56] <tunasalad> and, obviously, Debian.
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• 2858[20:59:56] <DestinyOne> d
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• 2862[21:02:10] <DestinyOne> hi
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• 2864[21:02:23] <annadane> DestinyOne, hi
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• 2871[21:04:08] <DestinyOne> what is this?
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• 2873[21:04:25] <greycat> A preposition, I believed.
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• 2875[21:04:47] <jelly> !irc
• 2876[21:04:47] <dpkg> IRC is Internet Relay Chat, the means to provide #debian to its patrons. Debian IRC channels are listed at replaced-url
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• 2879[21:04:57] <jelly> !debian
• 2880[21:04:57] <dpkg> i heard debian is replaced-url
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• 2884[21:05:34] <greycat> Ah, wrong part of speech. Wiktionary calls it a "pronoun" in one section, and a "determiner" in another.
• 2885[21:05:36] <docmax> how can i get debian on mips 34k machine?
• 2886[21:05:53] <jelly> DestinyOne: you're connected to a tech support oriented chat channel for a particular linux-based OS.
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• 2888[21:06:33] <annadane> there's 3 different mips arches, i'm not sure what the answer is
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• 2890[21:07:43] <jelly> is mips64el supported yet?
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• 2895[21:08:30] <jelly> not in stretch
• 2896[21:08:32] <jelly> !mips
• 2897[21:08:32] <dpkg> MIPS is a <RISC> architecture (replaced-url
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• 2902[21:09:31] <fishcooker> how to solve the suspending/sleep issue ... ?
• 2903[21:09:31] <annadane> mips64el is listed in the net install options
• 2904[21:09:44] <annadane> i just didn't know whether that particular machine was mips64el
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• 2906[21:10:02] <jelly> oh, i'm blind
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• 2909[21:10:19] <jelly> replaced-url
• 2910[21:10:23] <docmax> #mipslinux
• 2911[21:11:01] <jelly> docmax: there's also a #debian-mips on irc.oftc.net
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• 2913[21:11:07] <annadane> i'm really bad at knowing what type computer corresponds to what architecture
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• 2919[21:12:36] <docmax> jelly: thx, only 2 ppl are in
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• 2922[21:12:50] <jelly> different irc server, not here
• 2923[21:13:03] <docmax> oh right
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• 2925[21:13:07] <jelly> (but that one is also tiny, with 20 or so people)
• 2926[21:13:21] <docmax> i went to #mipslinux
• 2927[21:13:32] <jelly> good
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• 2980[21:36:55] <fishcooker> 3 days ago was my succesfull suspending box, after that the solution is i have to shutdown my box only ... i've tried the stock kernel installed but no luck
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• 2991[21:44:33] <V7> Hey all :)
• 2992[21:44:49] <V7> Is it possible to get a result from /usr/share/debconf/fix_db.pl ? I.e. check if it succeded
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• 2994[21:45:58] <V7> Is see there a string like: die "exec of self failed";
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• 2997[21:46:44] <somiaj> every program should output an exit code, if it is 0, things should have ran fine.
• 2998[21:47:03] <V7> Yeah, works: if sudo /usr/share/debconf/fix_db.pl; then echo 1; else echo 2; fi
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• 3002[21:48:40] <somiaj> fix_db.pl && echo sucess works too
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• 3014[21:53:55] <capin> afternoon, I just added an entry to `manpath.config` under `manpath_map` for some extra binaries i added to the system, how do i update `man` to recognize the new manpath_map I added to the system?
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• 3016[21:54:59] <greycat> If you mean MANPATH_MAP, it just needs your PATH to contain the directory in question.
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• 3021[21:55:44] <greycat> e.g. if you used "MANPATH_MAP /var/qmail/bin /var/qmai/man" then "man qmail-remote" should work as long as you have /var/qmail/bin in your PATH. No other changes necessary.
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• 3023[21:55:56] <capin> greycat: the directory containing the bins is in my PATH as well.
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• 3026[21:56:47] <s00x> hey
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• 3031[21:58:29] <s00x> my vbox doesnt work and i was suggested to install install the -devel package for the new kernel
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• 3033[21:58:31] <s00x> how can i do that?
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• 3038[21:59:57] <somiaj> s00x: the kernel headers are in a package named linux-headers-<version> where <version> is the same version as the linux-image package you are using.
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• 3040[22:00:14] <s00x> what about the devel?
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• 3042[22:00:17] <s00x> what is devel?
• 3043[22:00:26] <s00x> like linux-headers-devel-$(uname -r) ?
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• 3045[22:00:56] <greycat> -devel is a suffix commonly used by Red Hat packages
• 3046[22:00:57] <towo`> headers are the devel package for the kernel
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• 3048[22:01:22] <r3m> ,v weechat
• 3049[22:01:23] <judd> Package: weechat on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.3.8-1+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 0.3.8-1+deb7u3; wheezy-backports: 0.4.3-2~bpo70+1; wheezy-backports: 1.0.1-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1; jessie-security: 1.0.1-1+deb8u1; jessie: 1.0.1-1+deb8u2; jessie-backports: 1.6-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.6-1+deb9u2; sid: 1.9-1; buster: 1.9.1-1; sid: 1.9.1-1
• 3050[22:01:46] <s00x> towo`: so there's no somethin like devel kernel for Debian? There's just linux-headers?
• 3051[22:01:50] <towo`> so "apt update &&apt install linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64"
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• 3053[22:02:07] <towo`> so "apt update && apt install linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64" will do all is needed
• 3054[22:02:23] <towo`> maybe build-essential has to be installed too
• 3055[22:02:28] <s00x> i even did full dist-upgrade and upgrade
• 3056[22:02:35] <towo`> and?
• 3057[22:02:41] <somiaj> s00x: yes, linux-headers-<version> for the kernel you want. towo` gave you the metapackage that pulls in the most recent kernel in your repos.
• 3058[22:02:46] <s00x> and then when vbox problem started to occur
• 3059[22:02:57] <towo`> without the kernel- and header metapackages, no kernel will be updated, nor the headers will
• 3060[22:02:58] <somiaj> s00x: what did you upgrade from and to?
• 3061[22:03:25] <somiaj> towo`: good point, I keep forgetting abi changes keep jumping the kernel version in stable.
• 3062[22:03:26] <towo`> aha
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• 3064[22:03:47] <towo`> oha, from #vbox s00x is using kali
• 3065[22:03:56] <towo`> so absolute wrong channel
• 3066[22:04:07] <s00x> isn't kali debian based?
• 3067[22:04:14] <towo`> it is not debian
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• 3069[22:04:27] <towo`> if it would be debian, it would be named debian and not kali
• 3070[22:04:29] <s00x> but it used the same kernel as debian and same packages?
• 3071[22:04:33] <towo`> no
• 3072[22:04:45] <towo`> in debian there is no kernel with the string kali in it
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• 3074[22:05:11] <somiaj> s00x: kali takes packages from debian and changes them. core stuff like kernels are things that are changed.
• 3075[22:05:28] <towo`> i like all the people, who think, wow i install kali and now i'm the greatest hacker on earth without the need of any clue
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• 3077[22:05:46] <somiaj> s00x: and how kali decides to deal with virtualbox, and its modules maybe different than debian, so we don't want to guess what changes have happened, and suggest you go use kali support for your issue.
• 3078[22:05:51] <somiaj> !kali
• 3079[22:05:51] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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• 3081[22:06:50] <s00x> ok, thanks
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• 3106[22:18:21] <folatt> What's the equivalent of 'iwconfig wlan0 channel auto' for iw?
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• 3114[22:22:44] <somiaj> replaced-url
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• 3117[22:22:55] <somiaj> though isn't the channel usually set by the ap?
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• 3119[22:23:50] <somiaj> seems you can do something like iw dev wlan0 set channel ....
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• 3166[22:47:54] <V7> Is okay so after lm-sensors reinstallation there's no pwmconfig ?
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• 3194[23:02:51] <herpderp> Hi. I am connected to my debian server with putty. I started a programm and I cant do much anymore until it's finished. What's the proper/right way to get a second bash/terminal in which I can still work?
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• 3197[23:05:06] <mutante> herpderp: there are different ways, one is to use "&" at the end of the commandline to send it to background and use "fg" to get back to foreground, and "jobs" to see what's going on. but even nicer is install "screen" or "tmux" and checkout a tutorial how to use. it's like having several virtual screens
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• 3199[23:05:34] <herpderp> thanks, I'll do that.
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• 3201[23:08:01] <mutante> herpderp: apt-get install screen , type 'screen' (read the stuff, hit enter) ; get a new console, run something that you wanted to run.. Ctrl+A D to get back to your original shell while progam is still running.. come back later.. type "screen -x" to get back to where program ran.
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• 3204[23:09:10] <herpderp> easy, thanks.
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• 3206[23:09:51] <jorb> blah, how to enable lvm2 service in stretch? am i missing something?
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• 3210[23:13:14] <TacticReplicatio> Hi all o/
• 3211[23:13:34] <TacticReplicatio> I'm tryingto get started with LKM
• 3212[23:13:46] <TacticReplicatio> got the module skeleton (init/cleanup)
• 3213[23:13:57] <TacticReplicatio> only thing I'm doing so far is a printk
• 3214[23:14:04] <TacticReplicatio> I'm pretty confused
• 3215[23:14:30] <TacticReplicatio> got printk("1") on init and printk("2") on cleanup
• 3216[23:14:58] <TacticReplicatio> but "1" and "2" are displaying at the same time, when I execut the rmmod
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• 3219[23:15:34] <TacticReplicatio> shoulnd't I see "1" in the dmesg right after the insmod ?
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• 3226[23:21:29] <well_laid_lawn> TacticReplicatio: it is probably buffering text - try adding a loglevel or /n replaced-url
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• 3228[23:22:07] <TacticReplicatio> Actually
• 3229[23:22:19] <TacticReplicatio> I just read about the buffer thing
• 3230[23:22:30] <TacticReplicatio> I added a \n at the end of line
• 3231[23:22:33] <TacticReplicatio> looks good
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• 3236[23:25:30] <well_laid_lawn> well done
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