Realtime Nick Name Ticker of #debian at freenode (ICQ IRC service)

0[00:00:04] *** Joins: rohff_user_195 (~214_ident@replaced-ip)
1[00:00:12] *** Quits: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2[00:00:21] *** Quits: fstd (~fstd@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 263 seconds)
3[00:00:21] *** fstd_ is now known as fstd
4[00:00:27] *** Quits: N3X15 (~nexis@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
5[00:00:30] *** Joins: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip)
6[00:00:44] <toad_> Hmmm, it looks like the kernel already supports it
7[00:00:52] <toad_> it recognises it as a GP104, it creates a framebuffer
8[00:00:53] *** Joins: N3X15 (~nexis@replaced-ip)
9[00:01:16] *** Quits: rohff_user_195 (~214_ident@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
10[00:01:45] *** Quits: mylinux_ (~mylinux@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
11[00:02:53] *** Joins: glebihan (~glebihan@replaced-ip)
12[00:03:29] *** Quits: ski (~ski@replaced-ip) (Quit: Lost terminal)
13[00:04:00] *** Joins: kupad (kupad@replaced-ip)
14[00:04:54] *** Joins: Vizva (~Vizva@replaced-ip)
15[00:05:11] *** Joins: rohff_user_234 (~31_ident_@replaced-ip)
16[00:05:25] *** Joins: format_c (~koeppea@replaced-ip)
17[00:07:08] *** Quits: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
18[00:07:11] *** Joins: okdana_ (~dana@replaced-ip)
19[00:07:20] *** Quits: m3lst4d (~m3lst4d@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
20[00:07:35] *** Quits: digitalnomad91 (~digitalno@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
21[00:07:58] *** Joins: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip)
22[00:08:09] *** Joins: fialka (~user__@replaced-ip)
23[00:08:38] *** Quits: rohff_user_234 (~31_ident_@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
24[00:08:59] *** Joins: rohff_user_59 (~226_ident@replaced-ip)
25[00:09:04] *** Joins: cyborg-one (~cyborg-on@replaced-ip)
26[00:10:22] *** Joins: mtn (~mtn@replaced-ip)
27[00:11:31] *** Joins: vidjogamer (~vidjogame@replaced-ip)
28[00:11:42] *** Joins: paulgrmn__ (~paulgrmn@replaced-ip)
29[00:11:55] *** Joins: Guest78497 (~chat@replaced-ip)
30[00:12:29] *** Joins: digitalnomad91 (~digitalno@replaced-ip)
31[00:12:33] *** Quits: leerg319 (~alexey@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
32[00:13:44] *** Joins: Tarrasquero (~Tarrasque@replaced-ip)
33[00:13:53] *** Joins: Satou (~jjj@replaced-ip)
34[00:14:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1691
35[00:16:12] *** Joins: metxn (~metax@replaced-ip)
36[00:16:55] *** Joins: qwertzuiop_ (~qwertzuio@replaced-ip)
37[00:17:13] *** Quits: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
38[00:17:26] *** Quits: qwertzuiop_ (~qwertzuio@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
39[00:17:26] *** Quits: SuicideScrub (~SuicideSc@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
40[00:17:26] *** Quits: Forgmon (~Forgmon@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
41[00:17:41] *** Joins: somnambler (~michael@replaced-ip)
42[00:17:52] *** Quits: m8 (~m8@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
43[00:18:18] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
44[00:19:19] *** Quits: silverhom (~silverhom@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
45[00:19:36] *** Joins: Cosmofile (~matt@replaced-ip)
46[00:19:40] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip)
47[00:20:11] *** Quits: Kruppt (~Kruppt@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
48[00:20:45] *** Quits: rohff_user_59 (~226_ident@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
49[00:20:58] *** Quits: metax (~metax@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
50[00:22:20] *** Quits: LioneLL (~Pidgin@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
51[00:23:11] *** Quits: Cosmophile (~matt@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
52[00:24:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1684
53[00:24:15] *** Quits: clemens3 (~clemens@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
54[00:26:11] *** Joins: marvinw (~marvinw@replaced-ip)
55[00:26:32] *** Joins: Archet (~Archet@replaced-ip)
56[00:27:03] *** Joins: StrikerFX (~StrikerFX@replaced-ip)
57[00:27:04] *** Joins: numbdewd (~numbdewd@replaced-ip)
58[00:27:20] *** Joins: rohff_user_22 (~275_ident@replaced-ip)
59[00:28:26] *** Quits: fialka (~user__@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
60[00:28:43] *** Joins: SirDeiu_ (~SirDeiu@replaced-ip)
61[00:28:47] *** Joins: BWMerlin (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
62[00:28:55] *** Quits: SirDeiu_ (~SirDeiu@replaced-ip) (Read error: error:1408F119:SSL routines:ssl3_get_record:decryption failed or bad record mac)
63[00:28:59] *** Quits: kapitalist (~kapitalis@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
64[00:29:35] *** Quits: OS-34115 (~OS-34115@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
65[00:29:59] *** Quits: Antoninus (~Antoninus@replaced-ip) (Quit: Antoninus)
66[00:30:18] *** Joins: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip)
67[00:30:25] *** Joins: antemeridiem (~antemerid@replaced-ip)
68[00:30:36] *** Joins: clemens3 (~clemens@replaced-ip)
69[00:31:01] *** Joins: Burek (~Burek@replaced-ip)
70[00:31:08] *** Quits: SuperTramp83 (~SuperTram@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
71[00:31:36] *** Joins: jupiter (~jupiter@replaced-ip)
72[00:31:39] *** Quits: jupiter (~jupiter@replaced-ip) (Read error: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number)
73[00:32:09] *** Quits: rohff_user_22 (~275_ident@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
74[00:32:19] *** Joins: dlzinc (~dlzinc@replaced-ip)
75[00:32:49] *** Joins: Noldorin (~noldorin@replaced-ip)
76[00:32:59] <toad_> Is Wine still awful on AMD GPUs?
77[00:32:59] *** Quits: james41382_ (~james4138@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
78[00:33:25] *** Joins: Abner2 (~Abner2@replaced-ip)
79[00:33:39] *** Joins: xenonlig1 (~xenonligh@replaced-ip)
80[00:33:40] *** Quits: marvinw (~marvinw@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
81[00:33:52] *** Quits: Archet (~Archet@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
82[00:34:04] *** Quits: xenonlig1 (~xenonligh@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
83[00:34:04] *** Quits: StrikerFX (~StrikerFX@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
84[00:34:51] *** Quits: Aphotica (~aphotica@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
85[00:34:57] *** Quits: antemeridiem (~antemerid@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
86[00:34:57] *** Joins: Guest80525 (~Calvin@replaced-ip)
87[00:34:58] *** Quits: Abner2 (~Abner2@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
88[00:35:00] *** Quits: Gaxpaxxo (~Gazpacho@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
89[00:35:50] *** Joins: safe (~safe@replaced-ip)
90[00:35:55] *** Joins: desktop (~desktop@replaced-ip)
91[00:37:35] *** Quits: dlzinc (~dlzinc@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
92[00:37:43] *** Quits: mrig (~mrig@replaced-ip) (Quit: o/)
93[00:38:12] *** Joins: slime (~slime@replaced-ip)
94[00:38:16] *** Joins: rohff_user_58 (~91_ident_@replaced-ip)
95[00:38:29] *** slime is now known as Guest45122
96[00:38:45] *** Joins: Ladholym1 (~Ladholyma@replaced-ip)
97[00:40:06] *** Quits: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
98[00:40:44] *** Joins: Aussie_matt (~quassel@replaced-ip)
99[00:40:47] *** Quits: Guest80525 (~Calvin@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
100[00:40:52] <annadane> it was awful in the first place?
101[00:41:05] <annadane> i mean i guess it's amd
102[00:41:11] *** Quits: unicron_ (~unicron@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
103[00:41:58] *** Quits: Ladholym1 (~Ladholyma@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
104[00:41:58] *** Quits: desktop (~desktop@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
105[00:42:17] *** Quits: Guest45122 (~slime@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
106[00:42:26] *** Quits: ch0wn_ (~tmp@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
107[00:42:37] *** Quits: rohff_user_58 (~91_ident_@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
108[00:42:59] *** Joins: rohff_user_170 (~103_ident@replaced-ip)
109[00:46:14] <tacocat> toad_, definitely depends on the programs you're trying, but works for me
110[00:47:46] *** Quits: avis (~ident@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
111[00:48:41] *** Quits: Cosmofile (~matt@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
112[00:48:55] *** Joins: Cosmophile (~matt@replaced-ip)
113[00:49:16] *** Joins: unicron_ (~unicron@replaced-ip)
114[00:50:38] *** Quits: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)
115[00:50:56] *** Joins: Brigo (~Brigo@replaced-ip)
116[00:52:33] *** Quits: rohff_user_170 (~103_ident@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
117[00:52:56] *** Quits: clemens3 (~clemens@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
118[00:53:19] *** Joins: Grelouk (~Grelouk@replaced-ip)
119[00:53:31] *** Joins: rohff_user_209 (~147_ident@replaced-ip)
120[00:54:52] *** Quits: iflema (~ian@replaced-ip) (Quit: iflema)
121[00:55:51] *** Joins: Ladholym1 (~Ladholyma@replaced-ip)
122[00:56:12] *** Quits: rohff_user_209 (~147_ident@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
123[00:56:42] *** Joins: Michiko (~Michiko@replaced-ip)
124[00:57:11] *** Joins: rohff_user_72 (~241_ident@replaced-ip)
125[00:57:21] *** Quits: mtn (~mtn@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
126[00:57:32] *** Quits: Satou (~jjj@replaced-ip) (Quit: Cya soon guys!)
127[00:58:17] *** Joins: c0ffee152 (coffee@replaced-ip)
128[00:58:31] *** Joins: TimmyF (~TimmyF@replaced-ip)
129[00:58:36] *** Quits: TimmyF (~TimmyF@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
130[00:58:36] *** Quits: Michiko (~Michiko@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
131[00:58:36] *** Quits: Ladholym1 (~Ladholyma@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
132[00:58:36] *** Quits: Grelouk (~Grelouk@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
133[00:58:48] *** Quits: alad (~alad@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
134[00:59:45] *** Quits: rohff_user_72 (~241_ident@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
135[01:00:02] *** Quits: Vizva (~Vizva@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
136[01:00:03] *** Joins: rohff_user_60 (~284_ident@replaced-ip)
137[01:00:26] *** Joins: Vizva (~Vizva@replaced-ip)
138[01:00:48] *** Quits: Vizva (~Vizva@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
139[01:01:46] *** Joins: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip)
140[01:01:49] *** Joins: Cosmofile (~matt@replaced-ip)
141[01:03:01] *** Quits: rohff_user_60 (~284_ident@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
142[01:04:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1676
143[01:05:07] *** Quits: Cosmophile (~matt@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
144[01:05:33] *** Joins: Mammoth_ (~Mammoth@replaced-ip)
145[01:06:03] *** Joins: rohff_user_36 (~147_ident@replaced-ip)
146[01:06:38] *** Quits: Burek (~Burek@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
147[01:08:33] *** Quits: rohff_user_36 (~147_ident@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
148[01:08:42] *** Quits: Mammoth_ (~Mammoth@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
149[01:09:05] *** Quits: Tarrasquero (~Tarrasque@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
150[01:09:08] *** Joins: rohff_user_172 (~139_ident@replaced-ip)
151[01:09:49] *** Quits: JohnGalt2600 (B204@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
152[01:10:36] *** Joins: epony (~nym@replaced-ip)
153[01:11:21] *** Quits: mentor (~m@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
154[01:11:42] *** Quits: epony (~nym@replaced-ip) (Max SendQ exceeded)
155[01:12:55] *** Joins: epony (~nym@replaced-ip)
156[01:14:25] *** Quits: format_c (~koeppea@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
157[01:14:38] *** Quits: Walex (~Walex@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
158[01:14:39] *** Joins: JohnGalt2600 (B204@replaced-ip)
159[01:15:21] *** Joins: alad (~alad@replaced-ip)
160[01:15:26] *** Joins: Vizva (~Vizva@replaced-ip)
161[01:15:45] *** Quits: czesmir_ (~stefan@replaced-ip) (Quit: Lost terminal)
162[01:16:09] *** Joins: mentor (~m@replaced-ip)
163[01:16:09] *** Quits: mentor (~m@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
164[01:16:09] *** Joins: mentor (~m@replaced-ip)
165[01:16:17] *** Quits: Vizva (~Vizva@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
166[01:16:30] *** Quits: GenteelBen (~GenteelBe@replaced-ip) ()
167[01:16:41] *** Joins: LordWindfall (~LordWindf@replaced-ip)
168[01:16:57] *** Quits: RedSoxFan07 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Quit: Goodbye and [depending on the time] good night.)
169[01:18:37] *** Quits: tvn18 (~tvn18@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
170[01:19:04] *** Quits: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
171[01:19:05] *** Joins: RedSoxFan07 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
172[01:20:23] *** Quits: thedogcatcher (~thedogcat@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
173[01:20:43] *** Quits: toad_ (~toad@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
174[01:20:45] *** Quits: rohff_user_172 (~139_ident@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
175[01:22:24] *** Joins: gerg (~gsd@replaced-ip)
176[01:22:28] *** Parts: gerg (~gsd@replaced-ip) ()
177[01:22:56] *** Quits: shellclear (~shellclea@replaced-ip) (Quit: shellclear)
178[01:24:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1667
179[01:24:30] *** Joins: amcorrei1 (~amcorreia@replaced-ip)
180[01:24:57] *** Quits: kupad (kupad@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
181[01:26:02] *** Joins: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip)
182[01:26:14] *** Quits: nic_ (~nic@replaced-ip) ()
183[01:27:10] *** Joins: rohff_user_208 (~111_ident@replaced-ip)
184[01:27:21] *** Quits: amcorreia (~amcorreia@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
185[01:28:22] *** Quits: reber (~reber@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
186[01:29:12] *** Quits: JustStephIt (~JustSteph@replaced-ip##) (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium ##replaced-url
187[01:29:49] *** Quits: oerheks (~oerheks@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
188[01:30:11] *** Quits: DK21 (~DK2@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
189[01:31:36] *** Joins: mnuhmnuh (~keeling@replaced-ip)
190[01:32:03] *** Quits: dArK_IcE (~lawl@replaced-ip) ()
191[01:32:20] *** Joins: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip)
192[01:33:24] *** Cosmofile is now known as Cosmo|DwarfFortr
193[01:33:27] *** Quits: llucenic (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
194[01:33:28] *** Cosmo|DwarfFortr is now known as Cosmo|DwarfFort
195[01:34:09] *** Joins: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
196[01:34:12] *** Joins: nic_ (~nic@replaced-ip)
197[01:34:26] *** Joins: lost_in_a_loop[m (~lost_in_a@replaced-ip)
198[01:34:55] *** Quits: radikal (~radikal@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
199[01:35:45] *** Quits: rohff_user_208 (~111_ident@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
200[01:36:49] *** Joins: JSF (~jeff@replaced-ip)
201[01:36:57] *** Quits: teclo- (42@replaced-ip) (Quit: Lost terminal)
202[01:37:08] *** Quits: LordWindfall (~LordWindf@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
203[01:37:16] *** Quits: lost_in_a_loop[m (~lost_in_a@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
204[01:38:19] *** Quits: jsdk (~jsdk@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving.)
205[01:38:23] *** Quits: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
206[01:38:31] *** Quits: electro33 (uid613@replaced-ip) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
207[01:39:07] *** Quits: TellMeMore (~bela@replaced-ip) (Quit: EBADF)
208[01:40:01] *** Joins: TaZeR (Elite20747@replaced-ip)
209[01:40:13] <TaZeR> the debian graphical installer is the most relaxing installer for sure
210[01:40:26] *** Joins: kupad (~kupad@replaced-ip)
211[01:41:46] *** Joins: KidBeta (~textual@replaced-ip)
212[01:41:57] *** Quits: KidBeta (~textual@replaced-ip) (Max SendQ exceeded)
213[01:44:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1660
214[01:45:21] *** Quits: kupad (~kupad@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
215[01:45:57] <somiaj> what makes an installer relaxing?
216[01:46:35] *** Joins: n4dir (~user@replaced-ip)
217[01:46:35] *** Joins: KidBeta (~textual@replaced-ip)
218[01:47:43] *** Quits: maxzor__ (~maxzor@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
219[01:48:30] *** Joins: Eduard_Munteanu (~Eduard_Mu@replaced-ip)
220[01:50:36] *** Joins: Smithe (~Smithe@replaced-ip)
221[01:53:06] *** Joins: ech042 (~ech042@replaced-ip)
222[01:53:16] *** Quits: vidjogamer (~vidjogame@replaced-ip) (Read error: No route to host)
223[01:53:24] *** Joins: vidjogamer (~vidjogame@replaced-ip)
224[01:53:33] *** Quits: KidBeta (~textual@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
225[01:53:33] *** Joins: KidBeta (~textual@replaced-ip)
226[01:53:34] *** Joins: funfunfufnnnn (~funfunfuf@replaced-ip)
227[01:54:33] *** Quits: cCkw (~RW@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
228[01:55:30] *** Joins: GenTooMan (~cyberman@replaced-ip)
229[01:55:47] *** Joins: Aphotica (~aphotica@replaced-ip)
230[01:55:55] *** Quits: jcarpenter2 (~rofl@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
231[01:56:26] *** Quits: mibo (~mibo@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving.)
232[01:56:41] * dvs gets his chicken to peck at the enter key during the install
233[01:56:45] *** Joins: handsome_feng (~feng@replaced-ip)
234[02:00:34] *** Joins: Texou (~Texou@replaced-ip)
235[02:00:50] *** Quits: Baloona (~Baloona@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
236[02:01:37] *** Joins: candyone1 (~candyonet@replaced-ip)
237[02:01:55] *** Joins: Overbeckk[m] (~Overbeckk@replaced-ip)
238[02:02:14] *** Quits: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
239[02:02:15] *** Quits: de-facto (~de-facto@replaced-ip) (Quit: See you around.)
240[02:02:50] *** Joins: de-facto (~de-facto@replaced-ip)
241[02:03:17] *** Quits: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
242[02:03:45] *** Joins: OS-34800 (~OS-34800@replaced-ip)
243[02:04:08] *** Quits: turfrex (~py@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
244[02:04:18] *** Joins: Cubanoman (~Cubanoman@replaced-ip)
245[02:04:32] *** Quits: sh00p (~z@replaced-ip) ()
246[02:04:33] *** Joins: turfrex (~py@replaced-ip)
247[02:04:40] *** Quits: Cubanoman (~Cubanoman@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
248[02:04:40] *** Quits: Overbeckk[m] (~Overbeckk@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
249[02:04:52] *** Quits: candyone1 (~candyonet@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
250[02:05:02] *** Quits: funfunfufnnnn (~funfunfuf@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
251[02:05:07] *** Joins: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip)
252[02:06:39] *** Joins: shellclear (~shellclea@replaced-ip)
253[02:09:13] *** Joins: DK21 (~DK2@replaced-ip)
254[02:09:40] *** Quits: Aussie_matt (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
255[02:09:55] *** Quits: Zyferus (~Zyferus@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
256[02:10:39] *** Joins: Zyferus (~Zyferus@replaced-ip)
257[02:11:28] *** Quits: fearnothing (~nothing@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
258[02:12:37] *** Joins: tpanarch1st_ (~tpanarch1@replaced-ip)
259[02:12:39] *** Quits: polaris (~polaris_@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
260[02:12:41] *** Joins: rohff_user_170 (~222_ident@replaced-ip)
261[02:13:05] *** Quits: d3vice (~d3vice@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
262[02:13:08] *** Joins: m3lst4d (m3lst4d@replaced-ip)
263[02:13:25] *** Quits: shellclear (~shellclea@replaced-ip) (Quit: shellclear)
264[02:13:43] *** Joins: shellclear (~shellclea@replaced-ip)
265[02:14:57] *** Quits: tpanarch1st (~tpanarch1@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
266[02:15:14] *** Joins: Zyf (Zyferus@replaced-ip)
267[02:15:23] *** Quits: Zyferus (~Zyferus@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
268[02:16:32] *** Quits: kion (~kion@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
269[02:16:57] *** Joins: iflema (~ian@replaced-ip)
270[02:20:08] *** Joins: Tramp (~Tramp@replaced-ip)
271[02:20:40] *** Quits: orbiter (~orbiter@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
272[02:20:58] *** Quits: Delta-One (~zero@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
273[02:22:12] *** Quits: JSF (~jeff@replaced-ip) (Quit: JSF)
274[02:22:19] *** Quits: gonegirl (~gonegirl@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
275[02:22:43] *** Joins: kupad (kupad@replaced-ip)
276[02:22:52] *** Joins: Tehrabbitt (60f0049b@replaced-ip)
277[02:23:19] <Tehrabbitt> hey, do I absolutely *need* to be using NAT / IPTables to route data through an OpenVPN or IPSec tunnel on debian or should it be able to just route over the tun interface?
278[02:23:55] <Exagone313> Tehrabbitt: you need to
279[02:24:12] <Tehrabbitt> Exagone313: so there's no way to tunnel without using some form of NAT?
280[02:24:14] <Tehrabbitt> :\
281[02:24:22] <Exagone313> yes, using IPv6 afaik
282[02:24:30] *** Quits: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
283[02:25:27] <Tehrabbitt> Exagone313: ugh, I was hoping it would work much like a router, where if the server had 2 IPs, one was 10.0.0.1 and the other was 192.168.1.20 and the remote endpoint was 10.0.0.2.. I should be able to ping 192.168.1.20 (secondary IP) from the remote endpoint
284[02:25:32] *** Joins: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip)
285[02:25:39] <Tehrabbitt> (if IP Forwarding was turned on)
286[02:25:45] *** Zyf is now known as Zyferus
287[02:25:58] *** Quits: Gaaab (~Gaaab@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
288[02:26:09] *** Joins: dreamon__ (~dreamon@replaced-ip)
289[02:27:43] <Exagone313> if you just want to connect to an IP in the subnet of your clients (e.g. 10.0.0.42 -> 10.0.0.1), you don't need NAT
290[02:27:50] <Exagone313> but I think you'll find more help in #openvpn
291[02:27:57] *** Quits: mentor (~m@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
292[02:29:17] *** Joins: nrx (~metax@replaced-ip)
293[02:29:35] *** Quits: dreamon_ (~dreamon@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
294[02:31:07] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
295[02:31:34] *** Joins: bsdnoob (~bsdnoob@replaced-ip)
296[02:32:29] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip)
297[02:32:55] *** Quits: metxn (~metax@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
298[02:34:14] *** Quits: nic_ (~nic@replaced-ip) ()
299[02:34:30] *** Joins: fujisan (uid4207@replaced-ip)
300[02:35:07] *** Joins: nic_ (~nic@replaced-ip)
301[02:35:09] *** Quits: m3lst4d (m3lst4d@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
302[02:35:27] *** Joins: tyisbeast (~tyisbeast@replaced-ip)
303[02:36:02] *** Quits: B[]rG (~tuptidup@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
304[02:36:06] *** Joins: Borginjo (~tuptidup@replaced-ip)
305[02:36:07] *** Parts: tyisbeast (~tyisbeast@replaced-ip) ()
306[02:37:09] *** Quits: sz0 (uid110435@replaced-ip) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
307[02:37:36] *** Quits: stoilkov (~stoilkov@replaced-ip) (Quit: stoilkov)
308[02:40:14] *** Joins: upbeta________ (~upbeta@replaced-ip)
309[02:40:18] *** Quits: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving.)
310[02:40:30] *** Joins: domble (~domble@replaced-ip)
311[02:42:36] *** Joins: jsdk (~jsdk@replaced-ip)
312[02:44:22] *** upbeta________ is now known as upbeta
313[02:44:48] *** Joins: dave0x6d (uid190567@replaced-ip)
314[02:45:31] *** Joins: SeeYou_ (~SeeYou@replaced-ip)
315[02:45:44] *** Joins: B[]rG (~tuptidup@replaced-ip)
316[02:46:15] *** Quits: SeeYou_ (~SeeYou@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
317[02:46:29] *** Joins: upbeta_______ (~upbeta@replaced-ip)
318[02:46:33] *** Quits: rohff_user_170 (~222_ident@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
319[02:46:42] *** Joins: lazarus_zed_ (~lazarus_z@replaced-ip)
320[02:46:52] *** Quits: hamersaw (~hamersaw@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
321[02:47:06] *** Joins: B[]rG_ (~tuptidup@replaced-ip)
322[02:49:05] *** Quits: Borginjo (~tuptidup@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
323[02:49:35] *** Quits: upbeta (~upbeta@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
324[02:50:41] *** Quits: paulgrmn__ (~paulgrmn@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
325[02:50:44] *** Quits: B[]rG (~tuptidup@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
326[02:51:31] *** upbeta_______ is now known as upbeta
327[02:51:47] *** Quits: emdee (~noEmail@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
328[02:51:53] *** Joins: paulgrmn__ (~paulgrmn@replaced-ip)
329[02:52:57] *** Quits: Brigo (~Brigo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
330[02:53:07] *** Joins: emdee (~noEmail@replaced-ip)
331[02:53:33] *** Joins: mentor (~m@replaced-ip)
332[02:53:54] *** Quits: foul_owl (~foul_owl@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
333[02:54:10] *** Quits: owl_tech (~owl@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
334[02:54:34] *** Joins: rohff_user_199 (~179_ident@replaced-ip)
335[02:56:01] *** Quits: iflema (~ian@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
336[02:56:15] *** Joins: Baseman (~Baseman@replaced-ip)
337[02:56:43] *** Joins: stux_ (~stux@replaced-ip)
338[02:56:47] *** Joins: walawala (~walawala@replaced-ip)
339[02:56:49] *** Joins: Lothar (~Lothar@replaced-ip)
340[02:56:53] *** Quits: Baseman (~Baseman@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
341[02:57:25] *** Quits: Lothar (~Lothar@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
342[02:57:25] *** Quits: walawala (~walawala@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
343[02:57:27] *** Joins: ScareKitty_ (~ScareKitt@replaced-ip)
344[02:57:41] *** Joins: nixx` (~nixx`@replaced-ip)
345[02:57:52] *** Quits: stux_ (~stux@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
346[02:58:02] *** Quits: nixx` (~nixx`@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
347[02:58:20] *** Joins: Oreki (~Oreki@replaced-ip)
348[02:58:32] *** Quits: Oreki (~Oreki@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
349[02:58:40] *** Joins: xkre (~xkre@replaced-ip)
350[02:58:52] *** Quits: xkre (~xkre@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
351[02:58:52] *** Quits: ScareKitty_ (~ScareKitt@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
352[02:59:09] *** Quits: rohff_user_199 (~179_ident@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
353[02:59:16] *** Joins: Yogicat (~Yogicat@replaced-ip)
354[02:59:29] *** Quits: Yogicat (~Yogicat@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
355[02:59:40] *** Joins: kado (~kado@replaced-ip)
356[02:59:49] *** Quits: kado (~kado@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
357[03:00:26] *** Joins: Syu (~Syu@replaced-ip)
358[03:00:41] *** Quits: RadioManI (~RocknessA@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
359[03:00:49] *** Quits: Syu (~Syu@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
360[03:01:11] *** Joins: dutchfish (~wil@replaced-ip)
361[03:02:09] *** Joins: electro33 (uid613@replaced-ip)
362[03:02:14] *** Joins: warschijnlijk (~warschijn@replaced-ip)
363[03:02:29] *** Quits: Haudegen (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
364[03:02:37] *** Quits: crapp (~saedelaer@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
365[03:02:50] *** Quits: warschijnlijk (~warschijn@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
366[03:03:01] *** Joins: hmmmmm (~hmmmmm@replaced-ip)
367[03:03:13] *** Joins: jelle737_ (~jelle737@replaced-ip)
368[03:03:56] *** Quits: GDiaX (~gdiax@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
369[03:03:57] *** Quits: anon_ (~anon@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
370[03:04:15] *** Joins: rp4k_ (~rp4k@replaced-ip)
371[03:04:38] *** Joins: jcarpenter2 (~rofl@replaced-ip)
372[03:04:43] *** Joins: Plouescat (~Plouescat@replaced-ip)
373[03:04:46] <simbalion`> Hi, I added a disk to my fstab and it seems to mount alright but I'm getting permission denied executing files that I own and are set 700. They worked before when I was mounting using thunar rather than fstab. Here is a paste of my fstab if anyone would like to help replaced-url
374[03:04:58] *** Quits: jcarpenter2 (~rofl@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
375[03:05:09] *** Joins: jcarpenter2 (~rofl@replaced-ip)
376[03:05:12] *** Joins: anon_ (~anon@replaced-ip)
377[03:05:52] *** Joins: ledeni (~ledeni@replaced-ip)
378[03:06:01] *** Quits: Smithe (~Smithe@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
379[03:06:58] *** Quits: Plouescat (~Plouescat@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
380[03:07:45] *** Joins: foul_owl (~foul_owl@replaced-ip)
381[03:08:06] *** Joins: natetherobot (~natethero@replaced-ip)
382[03:08:18] *** Quits: jelle737_ (~jelle737@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
383[03:08:18] *** Quits: rp4k_ (~rp4k@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
384[03:08:18] *** Quits: hmmmmm (~hmmmmm@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
385[03:09:36] *** Joins: hans_ (~hans@replaced-ip)
386[03:09:42] *** Joins: Ayuni_ (~Ayuni_@replaced-ip)
387[03:10:37] <Dagger> Tehrabbitt: you don't need NAT to route data through a tunnel
388[03:10:43] *** Quits: hans__ (~hans@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
389[03:10:56] <Dagger> set up the routes right on both ends and it'll work the same way any other link does
390[03:11:19] <Tehrabbitt> Dagger: that's what I figured... I just can't get this to work :(
391[03:11:49] <Tehrabbitt> Dagger: did that, I set routes on both sides, and traffic doesn't make it across :\
392[03:11:52] *** Joins: Lacks (~Lacks_Age@replaced-ip)
393[03:11:55] <Tehrabbitt> I can ping either side of the tunnel but that's about it.
394[03:12:22] *** Joins: nullbyte (~nullbyte@replaced-ip)
395[03:12:38] *** Quits: Noldorin (~noldorin@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
396[03:12:46] *** nullbyte is now known as Guest36175
397[03:12:49] *** Joins: Hiken (~Hiken@replaced-ip)
398[03:12:53] *** Quits: M4he (~mahe@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
399[03:12:54] *** Quits: Guest36175 (~nullbyte@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
400[03:13:31] *** Joins: Mahe (~mahe@replaced-ip)
401[03:13:34] *** Joins: nyy (~nyy@replaced-ip)
402[03:14:03] *** Joins: pitastru1 (~pitastrud@replaced-ip)
403[03:14:46] *** Quits: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
404[03:14:52] *** Quits: Ayuni_ (~Ayuni_@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
405[03:15:04] *** Quits: pitastru1 (~pitastrud@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
406[03:15:04] *** Quits: nyy (~nyy@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
407[03:15:18] *** Quits: dutchfish (~wil@replaced-ip) (Quit: Splash, leaving the bowl)
408[03:15:41] *** Quits: natetherobot (~natethero@replaced-ip) (K-Lined)
409[03:18:15] *** Quits: n4dir (~user@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving.)
410[03:18:42] *** Joins: rohff_user_5 (~9_ident_r@replaced-ip)
411[03:18:56] *** Quits: jfsCommit (~kdevtmpfs@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
412[03:19:59] *** Quits: hikiko (~hikiko@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.6.2+deb2build1 - ##replaced-url
413[03:20:00] *** Quits: aielima (~aielima@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
414[03:20:27] *** Joins: oojacobo_ (~oojacoboo@replaced-ip)
415[03:22:25] *** Quits: enki (~enki@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
416[03:23:09] *** Quits: Peetz0r (~kwazzul@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
417[03:23:11] *** Joins: sidmo (~ilven@replaced-ip)
418[03:23:20] *** Joins: JackK (jack@replaced-ip)
419[03:24:01] *** Quits: oojacoboo (~oojacoboo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
420[03:24:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1653
421[03:24:03] *** Joins: Smithe (~Smithe@replaced-ip)
422[03:24:50] *** Quits: pvoigt (~Linux@replaced-ip) (Max SendQ exceeded)
423[03:25:00] *** Joins: patterson (~patterson@replaced-ip)
424[03:25:03] *** Joins: Peetz0r (~kwazzul@replaced-ip)
425[03:25:21] *** Joins: temy (~cccp@replaced-ip)
426[03:25:26] *** Parts: Lacks (~Lacks_Age@replaced-ip) ("Leaving")
427[03:25:47] *** Joins: enki (~enki@replaced-ip)
428[03:26:04] *** Parts: Hiken (~Hiken@replaced-ip) ("WeeChat 2.0.1")
429[03:26:15] *** Joins: t0no6a (~t0no6a@replaced-ip)
430[03:27:14] *** Quits: sidmo_ (~ilven@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
431[03:27:26] <sveta> Tehrabbitt: ask #openvpn
432[03:27:43] *** Quits: Eryn_1983_FL (~Eryn_1983@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
433[03:28:15] *** Joins: V-Vega- (~vvega@replaced-ip)
434[03:28:53] *** Joins: pvoigt (~Linux@replaced-ip)
435[03:29:47] *** Quits: B[]rG_ (~tuptidup@replaced-ip) (Quit: regeneration...)
436[03:32:55] *** lazarus_zed_ is now known as lazarus_zed
437[03:35:09] *** Quits: kolla (~kolla@replaced-ip) (Quit: %fog relay%)
438[03:37:37] *** Quits: Nekojimi (~jimj316@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
439[03:37:51] *** Quits: luckman212 (~luckman21@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
440[03:38:07] *** Joins: kolla (~kolla@replaced-ip)
441[03:40:26] *** Joins: DeaDSouL (~DeaDSouL@replaced-ip)
442[03:40:57] *** Quits: amcorrei1 (~amcorreia@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
443[03:41:35] *** Joins: Eryn_1983_FL (~Eryn_1983@replaced-ip)
444[03:42:32] *** Joins: omber (~omber@replaced-ip)
445[03:43:30] *** Joins: luckman212 (~luckman21@replaced-ip)
446[03:43:56] *** Quits: emdee (~noEmail@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
447[03:44:50] *** Quits: chalcedony (~chalcedon@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
448[03:47:21] *** Quits: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
449[03:47:22] *** Quits: t0no6a (~t0no6a@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
450[03:47:41] *** Joins: _0x4B1 (~Thereisno@replaced-ip)
451[03:47:54] *** Joins: valex (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
452[03:48:52] *** Quits: valex (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
453[03:49:53] *** Quits: SanovaL (~Sandoval@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
454[03:53:53] *** Joins: valex (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
455[03:54:27] *** Quits: bsdnoob (~bsdnoob@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
456[03:55:16] *** Quits: DeaDSouL (~DeaDSouL@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
457[03:56:37] *** Joins: GadgetGuru (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
458[03:57:10] *** Quits: temy (~cccp@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
459[03:59:30] *** Joins: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip)
460[04:00:22] *** Quits: banc (~master@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - ##replaced-url
461[04:01:52] *** Quits: BrainDommage (~BrainDomm@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
462[04:02:53] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
463[04:03:53] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip)
464[04:06:29] *** Quits: Texou (~Texou@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
465[04:07:39] *** Quits: valex (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Quit: valex)
466[04:07:52] *** Quits: rohff_user_5 (~9_ident_r@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
467[04:08:11] *** Quits: Tom01 (~tom@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
468[04:11:16] *** Joins: Texou (~Texou@replaced-ip)
469[04:11:17] *** Quits: safe (~safe@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
470[04:12:38] *** Quits: numbdewd (~numbdewd@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
471[04:13:37] *** Quits: eTarap (~gg@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
472[04:14:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1644
473[04:14:16] *** Joins: bnw (~bnw@replaced-ip)
474[04:14:59] *** Joins: banc (~master@replaced-ip)
475[04:15:34] *** Quits: chachasmooth_ (~chachasmo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
476[04:16:12] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip)
477[04:16:38] *** Joins: eTarap (~gg@replaced-ip)
478[04:16:42] *** Quits: vidjogamer (~vidjogame@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
479[04:16:48] *** Quits: rcdilorenzo_ (~rcdiloren@replaced-ip) (Quit: rcdilorenzo_)
480[04:17:09] *** Quits: dohfish (~oemillak@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
481[04:17:53] *** Joins: vidjogamer (~vidjogame@replaced-ip)
482[04:19:27] *** Quits: frostschutz (~frostschu@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
483[04:20:09] *** Quits: paraxic (~paraxic@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
484[04:20:39] *** Joins: frostschutz (~frostschu@replaced-ip)
485[04:22:17] *** Quits: RedSoxFan07 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Quit: Goodbye and [depending on the time] good night.)
486[04:22:49] *** Joins: dflll (~dfll@replaced-ip)
487[04:25:04] *** Quits: domble (~domble@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
488[04:25:13] *** Joins: domble (~domble@replaced-ip)
489[04:27:46] *** Joins: user77 (user77@replaced-ip)
490[04:28:50] *** Joins: sdoconnell (~user@replaced-ip)
491[04:29:32] *** Joins: canvon_ (~canvon@replaced-ip)
492[04:30:04] *** Quits: canvon (~canvon@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
493[04:31:09] *** Quits: chiluk (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
494[04:31:41] *** Quits: Hunterkll (~Hunterkll@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
495[04:31:50] <boser> maybe that i have a nice problem. let my explain. i use jessie and FF, all pprogramms are up-tp-date. Now, in FF the submenue don't show me the select-Box, so that i can marke it. What can i do? :-)
496[04:32:05] *** Joins: Hunterkll (~Hunterkll@replaced-ip)
497[04:32:34] *** Joins: chiluk (~quassel@replaced-ip)
498[04:32:57] *** Quits: masber (~masber@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
499[04:34:12] <omber> I messed up and accidentally installed MBR to the USB stick I used as installation media. My actual OS drive is always the last sd* device, but its sdh with USB stick inserted and sdg when USB drive is not inserted. So if I do grub-install /dev/sdh, grub still fails to find correct partition on reboot. Suggestions?
500[04:35:08] *** Parts: sdoconnell (~user@replaced-ip) ("ERC (IRC client for Emacs 25.2.1)")
501[04:35:25] *** Quits: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)
502[04:36:55] *** Joins: DeinFreund (~YourFrien@replaced-ip)
503[04:37:33] *** Quits: botho (~botho@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
504[04:38:30] *** Joins: baa44 (~root@replaced-ip)
505[04:40:42] *** Quits: YourFriend (~YourFrien@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
506[04:41:55] <wigums> omber, sort out your /etc/fstab
507[04:42:28] <omber> wigums, thank you will try there
508[04:44:06] *** Quits: fujisan (uid4207@replaced-ip) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
509[04:44:11] *** Parts: user77 (user77@replaced-ip) ()
510[04:45:16] *** Quits: patterson (~patterson@replaced-ip) (Quit: I quit)
511[04:45:33] *** Quits: Zardoz (~Zardoz@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
512[04:46:06] *** Joins: tt (~chinggis6@replaced-ip)
513[04:46:28] *** Joins: r0Oter (~r00ter@replaced-ip)
514[04:46:32] *** Quits: r00ter (~r00ter@replaced-ip) (Disconnected by services)
515[04:47:05] <awal1> boser, "in FF the submenue don't show me the select-Box, so that i can marke it"?
516[04:47:37] *** Joins: Zardoz (~Zardoz@replaced-ip)
517[04:47:51] *** Quits: Texou (~Texou@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
518[04:48:31] *** Joins: JustStephIt (~JustSteph@replaced-ip)
519[04:49:16] *** Quits: _0x4B1 (~Thereisno@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
520[04:51:31] *** Quits: shellclear (~shellclea@replaced-ip) (Quit: shellclear)
521[04:51:44] *** Quits: derpyhooves_ (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)
522[04:52:02] *** Quits: vidjogamer (~vidjogame@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
523[04:53:00] *** Joins: vidjogamer (~vidjogame@replaced-ip)
524[04:53:02] *** Joins: derpyhooves_ (~quassel@replaced-ip)
525[04:53:51] *** Quits: paulgrmn__ (~paulgrmn@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
526[04:54:00] *** Joins: tvn18 (~tvn18@replaced-ip)
527[04:54:25] *** Quits: tt (~chinggis6@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 2.0)
528[04:56:05] *** Joins: vvor (~vvor@replaced-ip)
529[04:56:41] *** Quits: vidjogamer (~vidjogame@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
530[04:56:46] *** Joins: Delta-One (~zero@replaced-ip)
531[04:56:55] *** Joins: vidjogamer (~vidjogame@replaced-ip)
532[05:01:34] *** Quits: Digz (~digz@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
533[05:02:57] *** Parts: dflll (~dfll@replaced-ip) ("Leaving")
534[05:04:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1638
535[05:04:27] *** Joins: konakona_ (~konakona_@replaced-ip)
536[05:05:01] *** Quits: dpkg (~dpkg@replaced-ip) (Quit: buh bye!)
537[05:05:21] *** Quits: domble (~domble@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
538[05:05:29] *** Joins: kpease (~kpease@replaced-ip)
539[05:05:43] *** Joins: dpkg (~dpkg@replaced-ip)
540[05:06:15] *** Joins: Digz (~digz@replaced-ip)
541[05:06:15] *** Quits: Digz (~digz@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
542[05:06:15] *** Joins: Digz (~digz@replaced-ip)
543[05:07:10] *** Quits: konakona_ (~konakona_@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
544[05:07:20] *** Joins: konakona_ (~konakona_@replaced-ip)
545[05:07:29] *** Quits: konakona_ (~konakona_@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
546[05:07:43] *** Joins: konakona_ (~konakona_@replaced-ip)
547[05:16:50] *** Joins: bango7buck[m] (bango7buck@replaced-ip)
548[05:17:33] *** Joins: ericko (~eric@replaced-ip)
549[05:17:49] *** Quits: ericko (~eric@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
550[05:20:00] *** Quits: eck (~eck@replaced-ip) (Quit: we out here)
551[05:20:41] *** Parts: bango7buck[m] (bango7buck@replaced-ip) ("User left")
552[05:21:06] *** Joins: masber (~masber@replaced-ip)
553[05:22:44] *** Quits: rizzo (~RizzoTheR@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
554[05:22:51] *** Quits: roger_rabbit (~roger_rab@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
555[05:23:54] *** Quits: misty5 (~pokemongi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
556[05:24:02] *** Joins: kaosu (~kaosu@replaced-ip)
557[05:24:19] *** Joins: misty5 (~pokemongi@replaced-ip)
558[05:25:04] *** Quits: MACscr (~MACscr@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Textual IRC Client: ##replaced-url
559[05:25:56] *** Joins: diegogo (~diegogo__@replaced-ip)
560[05:26:20] *** Joins: [b0b] (~bob@replaced-ip)
561[05:26:45] *** Quits: digitalnomad91 (~digitalno@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
562[05:26:48] *** Joins: LittleViking (adefe144@replaced-ip)
563[05:26:59] *** Joins: roger_rabbit (~roger_rab@replaced-ip)
564[05:27:17] <LittleViking> am i the only one that isn't at all thrilled about the inclusion of AppArmor by default?
565[05:28:03] *** Quits: vvor (~vvor@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
566[05:29:01] *** Quits: vidjogamer (~vidjogame@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
567[05:29:01] *** Joins: jfsCommit (~kdevtmpfs@replaced-ip)
568[05:29:02] *** Quits: b0b (~bob@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
569[05:29:04] *** [b0b] is now known as b0b
570[05:29:30] *** Joins: GadgetGuru1 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
571[05:29:31] *** Quits: GadgetGuru (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
572[05:29:32] *** GadgetGuru1 is now known as GadgetGuru
573[05:29:40] *** Joins: ArexR (~alex@replaced-ip)
574[05:29:48] *** Quits: GadgetGuru (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
575[05:30:05] *** Quits: holden- (~holden-@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
576[05:30:11] *** Joins: vidjogamer (~vidjogame@replaced-ip)
577[05:30:45] *** Quits: kaosu (~kaosu@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
578[05:32:00] *** Joins: james41382 (~james4138@replaced-ip)
579[05:33:10] *** Joins: Rokixz (~rokas@replaced-ip)
580[05:33:30] *** Joins: disruptivefour (~disruptiv@replaced-ip)
581[05:33:49] *** ArexR is now known as television
582[05:35:32] *** Quits: GenTooMan (~cyberman@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
583[05:36:50] *** Joins: Neomex (~quassel@replaced-ip)
584[05:37:25] *** Quits: Smithe (~Smithe@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
585[05:37:48] *** Joins: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip)
586[05:38:49] *** Quits: rolig (~rolig@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
587[05:39:50] *** Quits: disruptivefour (~disruptiv@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
588[05:40:03] *** Joins: rolig (~rolig@replaced-ip)
589[05:40:11] *** Joins: disruptivefour (~disruptiv@replaced-ip)
590[05:41:51] *** Quits: disruptivefour (~disruptiv@replaced-ip) (Max SendQ exceeded)
591[05:42:10] *** Joins: disruptivefour (~disruptiv@replaced-ip)
592[05:42:14] *** Joins: dayten (~gnoid@replaced-ip)
593[05:44:21] *** Joins: uNmowed (~Mayu@replaced-ip)
594[05:45:43] *** Quits: vidjogamer (~vidjogame@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
595[05:46:04] *** Joins: vidjogamer (~vidjogame@replaced-ip)
596[05:47:18] *** Quits: sanchexm (~sanchexm@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
597[05:47:30] *** Joins: Zorroness (~Zorroness@replaced-ip)
598[05:47:41] *** Joins: monsterminds (~monstermi@replaced-ip)
599[05:48:09] <monsterminds> where is channel for chat
600[05:48:21] *** Quits: Darcidride (~Darcidrid@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
601[05:48:22] *** Quits: kpease (~kpease@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Textual IRC Client: ##replaced-url
602[05:48:27] <tacocat> #debian-offtopic ?
603[05:48:42] *** Joins: Edu4rdSHL (~Edward@replaced-ip)
604[05:48:49] <monsterminds> thank tacocat
605[05:50:57] *** Quits: eTarap (~gg@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
606[05:51:27] *** Quits: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
607[05:52:22] *** Joins: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip)
608[05:52:34] *** Joins: indistylo (~indistylo@replaced-ip)
609[05:52:48] <Edu4rdSHL> !pci
610[05:52:48] <dpkg> Conventional PCI (Peripheral Connect Interface) was designed to supplant the VL-Bus architecture and provide a standard slot with a reduced size for high-speed peripherals. It normally runs at 33 MHz on a PC, but can run faster. PCI slots are 32-bit slots on Intel systems, but the specification allows for 64-bit, like EISA or VL-BUS, but in a compact form factor. See <pciids>, <pcie>, <pci-x>.
611[05:53:03] *** Joins: eTarap (~gg@replaced-ip)
612[05:53:03] <Edu4rdSHL> !pciids
613[05:53:03] <dpkg> extra, extra, read all about it, pciids is run `update-pciids' to update your PCI ID database, if your <lspci> output shows "unknown device". The PCI ID Repository is at replaced-url
614[05:53:30] <Edu4rdSHL> How is the command for check PCI's?
615[05:53:50] *** Quits: disruptivefour (~disruptiv@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
616[05:54:10] *** Joins: disruptivefour (~disruptiv@replaced-ip)
617[05:54:20] <Epakai> lspci
618[05:54:58] <annadane> i think Edu4rdSHL might mean indvidual pci numbers
619[05:55:34] <annadane> ,pciid 8000
620[05:55:40] <Edu4rdSHL> annadane, yeah. Here is a command that check if the pci is supported for debian.
621[05:55:51] *** Quits: disruptivefour (~disruptiv@replaced-ip) (Max SendQ exceeded)
622[05:56:12] *** Joins: disruptivefour (~disruptiv@replaced-ip)
623[05:56:19] *** Joins: Dojka (~Dojka@replaced-ip)
624[05:56:20] <annadane> i forget the command but judd messages me with "Error: I don't know what you mean by PCI Id '8000'. 0000:0000 is my preferred format where both vendor Id and device Id are are in hexadecimal. You can find the PCI Id in the output of 'lspci -nn'."
625[05:56:48] <annadane> so presumably use that format?
626[05:57:19] <Edu4rdSHL> ,pciid 14e4:4365
627[05:57:20] <judd> [14e4:4365] is 'BCM43142 802.11b/g/n' from 'Broadcom Limited' with kernel modules 'bcma', 'brcmfmac' in stretch. See also replaced-url
628[05:57:37] *** Joins: Ericounet (~Ericounet@replaced-ip)
629[05:57:43] <Edu4rdSHL> Thanks muchm annadane :)
630[05:57:47] <annadane> there you go :P
631[05:57:50] *** Quits: disruptivefour (~disruptiv@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
632[05:58:04] <dvs> uh oh
633[05:58:10] *** Joins: disruptivefour (~disruptiv@replaced-ip)
634[05:58:15] *** Quits: Tramp (~Tramp@replaced-ip) (Quit: cu)
635[05:59:48] *** Quits: c0ffee152 (coffee@replaced-ip) (Quit: Lost terminal)
636[05:59:53] *** Joins: dayten_ (~gnoid@replaced-ip)
637[06:00:23] *** Joins: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip)
638[06:00:33] *** Quits: misty5 (~pokemongi@replaced-ip) (Quit: misty5)
639[06:00:58] *** Quits: diegogo (~diegogo__@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
640[06:01:16] *** Joins: diegogo (~diegogo__@replaced-ip)
641[06:01:50] *** Quits: disruptivefour (~disruptiv@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
642[06:02:12] *** Joins: disruptivefour (~disruptiv@replaced-ip)
643[06:02:44] *** Quits: Mad_Hat (~Mad_Hat@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
644[06:02:57] *** Quits: dayten (~gnoid@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
645[06:03:10] *** Joins: Mad_Hat (~Mad_Hat@replaced-ip)
646[06:03:56] *** Quits: Ilyas (uid43013@replaced-ip) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
647[06:05:02] *** Joins: craigp (~craigp@replaced-ip)
648[06:07:42] *** Quits: monsterminds (~monstermi@replaced-ip) ()
649[06:07:51] *** Quits: vidjogamer (~vidjogame@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
650[06:07:56] *** Quits: ArchDuke (~ArchDuke@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
651[06:08:02] *** Joins: monsterminds (~monstermi@replaced-ip)
652[06:08:14] *** Joins: vidjogamer (~vidjogame@replaced-ip)
653[06:08:47] *** Quits: indistylo (~indistylo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
654[06:08:57] *** Quits: monsterminds (~monstermi@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
655[06:11:50] *** Quits: disruptivefour (~disruptiv@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
656[06:12:10] *** Joins: disruptivefour (~disruptiv@replaced-ip)
657[06:14:18] *** Quits: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
658[06:15:07] *** Joins: blingrang (~blingrang@replaced-ip)
659[06:15:50] *** Quits: disruptivefour (~disruptiv@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
660[06:16:10] *** Joins: disruptivefour (~disruptiv@replaced-ip)
661[06:21:17] *** Quits: s0ph0s (~s0ph0s@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
662[06:21:56] *** Quits: PuFFs (~puffs@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
663[06:22:19] *** Quits: LittleViking (adefe144@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
664[06:23:12] *** Joins: s0ph0s (~s0ph0s@replaced-ip)
665[06:23:13] *** Quits: mpmc (~mpmc@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
666[06:23:26] *** Quits: SupaYoshi (~SupaYoshi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
667[06:24:36] *** Quits: konakona_ (~konakona_@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
668[06:26:03] *** Joins: konakona_ (~konakona_@replaced-ip)
669[06:32:39] *** Quits: V-Vega- (~vvega@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
670[06:32:41] *** Joins: skwingar (~skwingar@replaced-ip)
671[06:33:51] *** Joins: xorgnak (~user@replaced-ip)
672[06:33:57] *** Quits: dayten_ (~gnoid@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
673[06:34:44] *** Parts: disruptivefour (~disruptiv@replaced-ip) ("Leaving")
674[06:36:14] *** Joins: bl0ndii (~bl0ndy@replaced-ip)
675[06:36:39] *** Joins: ArchDuke (~ArchDuke@replaced-ip)
676[06:37:05] *** Quits: frostschutz (~frostschu@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
677[06:38:14] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
678[06:39:26] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip)
679[06:42:36] *** Quits: craigp (~craigp@replaced-ip) ()
680[06:43:35] *** Joins: Asorailahd (~auror@replaced-ip)
681[06:43:45] *** Quits: Asorailahd (~auror@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
682[06:43:45] *** Joins: Asorailahd (~auror@replaced-ip)
683[06:44:14] *** Joins: NothiongToSay (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
684[06:46:46] *** Joins: Tigerbot_Hesh (~TigerbotH@replaced-ip)
685[06:48:47] *** Joins: midhunrajs (6f5c0663@replaced-ip)
686[06:48:52] *** Quits: enki (~enki@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
687[06:49:12] <midhunrajs> dpkg-checkbuilddeps: error: Unmet build dependencies: xlibs-dev libgtk1.2-dev libglib1.2-dev
688[06:49:12] *** Joins: enki (~enki@replaced-ip)
689[06:49:25] *** Joins: agiofws_ (~agiofws@replaced-ip)
690[06:49:26] <midhunrajs> replaced-url
691[06:52:09] *** Joins: xorgnak_ (~xorgnak@replaced-ip)
692[06:53:05] *** Quits: Dojka (~Dojka@replaced-ip) (Quit: Dojka)
693[06:53:23] *** Quits: Ericounet (~Ericounet@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
694[06:53:50] <bl0ndii> this usually works for me midhunrajs: apt-get install build-essential autoconf automake libtool flex bison debhelper binutils
695[06:54:07] *** Quits: bertbob (~bertbob@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
696[06:54:18] <somiaj> if you have a deb-src line, just apt-get builddep packagename
697[06:54:20] <cheapie> Did you try installing the packages it's asking for?
698[06:54:29] <cheapie> Or that.
699[06:54:48] *** Quits: NothiongToSay (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
700[06:54:50] *** Quits: ChmEarl (~chmearl@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
701[06:55:15] <bl0ndii> intresting ... i thought noone ever chats in here lol
702[06:56:33] <mutante> it used to be more active, true
703[06:57:02] *** Joins: indistylo (~indistylo@replaced-ip)
704[06:58:22] <midhunrajs> <bl0ndii> i tried that still i am getting the error
705[06:58:39] <xorgnak_> there's usually more people actually talking in ##linux
706[06:59:32] *** Joins: aruns (~indistylo@replaced-ip)
707[07:00:59] *** Joins: emdee (~noEmail@replaced-ip)
708[07:01:35] *** Quits: midhunrajs (6f5c0663@replaced-ip) (Quit: Page closed)
709[07:01:35] *** Quits: bliv (~bliv@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
710[07:01:57] *** Quits: indistylo (~indistylo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
711[07:03:02] *** Joins: aruns__ (~indistylo@replaced-ip)
712[07:03:31] *** Quits: Neomex (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
713[07:03:42] <themill> for libgtk1.2-dev you're completely out of luck
714[07:03:55] <themill> but then you'd need to hang around for the answer to find that out...
715[07:05:57] <bl0ndii> true story
716[07:05:58] *** Quits: aruns (~indistylo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
717[07:07:14] *** Joins: baptist (~baptsk@replaced-ip)
718[07:07:14] *** Joins: mpmc (~mpmc@replaced-ip)
719[07:07:33] *** Joins: detectiveaoi (~detective@replaced-ip)
720[07:07:50] *** Joins: Neomex (~quassel@replaced-ip)
721[07:08:08] *** Joins: iflema (~ian@replaced-ip)
722[07:08:56] *** Joins: cr1t1cal (~cr1t1cal@replaced-ip)
723[07:09:02] <cr1t1cal> how to install radeonsi on debian stretch
724[07:09:04] *** Quits: diniwed (~gavron@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
725[07:13:05] <towo^work> there is nothing special to download
726[07:13:14] <towo^work> or to install
727[07:13:22] <cr1t1cal> really?
728[07:13:28] <towo^work> sure
729[07:13:29] *** Joins: temy (~cccp@replaced-ip)
730[07:13:37] <cr1t1cal> but
731[07:13:51] *** Quits: masber (~masber@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
732[07:13:58] <towo^work> if you have a radeon card,and you have installed the amd graphics firmware, it's used by mesa as driver
733[07:14:06] <cr1t1cal> I am currently running an AMD Radeon HD8370D graphics card
734[07:14:15] <cr1t1cal> it supports OpenGL 4.3
735[07:14:26] <cr1t1cal> however, I can only use up to OpenGL 1.3
736[07:14:33] <cr1t1cal> so therefore its a driver issue
737[07:14:42] <towo^work> useless info
738[07:14:47] <cr1t1cal> I was assuming radeonsi or another driver will fix this
739[07:14:52] <temy> Does Debian already has the patch for the kernel: replaced-url
740[07:15:05] <temy> ?
741[07:15:35] <cr1t1cal> towo^work: I can't install proprietary AMD graphics drivers
742[07:15:43] <cr1t1cal> towo^work: since my xserver version is too high or something
743[07:15:49] <cr1t1cal> and I don't even know how to downgrade X
744[07:15:59] <towo^work> cr1t1cal, read what was written!
745[07:16:16] <towo^work> radeon needs non-free firmware for propper working
746[07:16:24] <cr1t1cal> towo^work: right
747[07:16:30] <towo^work> so make sure, you have installed it
748[07:16:41] <cr1t1cal> towo^work: but I can't install the proprietary drivers
749[07:16:53] <cr1t1cal> the version of my xserver is too high
750[07:16:57] <towo^work> cr1t1cal, i don't speak about propritary drivers
751[07:17:00] <cr1t1cal> they only support up to 6.8
752[07:17:07] <towo^work> i speek about the firmware
753[07:17:28] <cr1t1cal> towo^work: well I mean my graphics card seems to be working fine
754[07:17:32] <towo^work> which is in debian and named firmware-amd-graphics from the non-free repo
755[07:17:49] *** Joins: SupaYoshi (~SupaYoshi@replaced-ip)
756[07:18:01] <cr1t1cal> towo^work: yeah its already insatlled
757[07:18:03] *** Quits: Zorroness (~Zorroness@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
758[07:18:11] <cr1t1cal> towo^work: but why can't I get OpenGL 4.3 to work?
759[07:18:12] <towo^work> glxinfo | grep OpenG
760[07:18:26] *** Joins: LocaMocha (bocaneri@replaced-ip)
761[07:18:44] <cr1t1cal> towo^work: replaced-url
762[07:18:51] *** Asorailahd is now known as auror
763[07:19:04] *** Joins: xormor (~xormor@replaced-ip)
764[07:20:07] *** Quits: nomic (~nomic4@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
765[07:20:25] <towo^work> mesa 13 is too old
766[07:20:26] *** Joins: OS-32655-PWK (~OS-32655-@replaced-ip)
767[07:20:29] *** Parts: OS-32655-PWK (~OS-32655-@replaced-ip) ()
768[07:21:07] <towo^work> you would need a never kernel, drm and mesa stack
769[07:21:26] <cr1t1cal> never?
770[07:21:30] <cr1t1cal> newer?
771[07:21:48] <cr1t1cal> towo^work: I am using debian 9.2 stretch, isn't that the latest kernel?
772[07:23:11] <towo^work> no, it isn't, backports has a more recent verion
773[07:23:32] <towo^work> but it would not help many, since you would even need a newer mesa and drm
774[07:23:46] *** Joins: Dreaman (~deb@replaced-ip)
775[07:24:06] <cr1t1cal> towo^work: so I need to reinstall my OS?
776[07:24:22] *** Quits: temy (~cccp@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
777[07:24:41] <towo^work> reinstall?
778[07:24:45] *** Joins: tpanarch1st (~tpanarch1@replaced-ip)
779[07:24:47] <cr1t1cal> yeah
780[07:24:55] *** Joins: temy (~cccp@replaced-ip)
781[07:25:25] <towo^work> debian stable itself is to old for your wishes
782[07:26:25] <cr1t1cal> towo^work: right
783[07:26:27] <temy> did someone answered my question while I was disconnected?
784[07:26:40] *** Joins: nighty- (~nighty@replaced-ip)
785[07:26:40] <cr1t1cal> towo^work: so is debian testing alright?
786[07:26:46] <cr1t1cal> towo^work: unstable is too old for me too :D
787[07:26:57] *** Quits: tpanarch1st_ (~tpanarch1@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
788[07:27:07] *** dx_ob is now known as OtakuSenpai
789[07:27:27] *** Quits: mzf (~fakhraee@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
790[07:27:36] *** Parts: Dreaman (~deb@replaced-ip) ()
791[07:27:56] *** Quits: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip) (Quit: Hold on, brb.)
792[07:27:57] <temy> Ok I assume that's a nay
793[07:28:20] *** Joins: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip)
794[07:28:40] *** Joins: mzf (~fakhraee@replaced-ip)
795[07:31:44] *** Quits: agiofws_ (~agiofws@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
796[07:32:34] *** Joins: aruns (~indistylo@replaced-ip)
797[07:33:17] *** Joins: setty (~setty@replaced-ip)
798[07:34:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1644
799[07:35:27] *** Quits: aruns__ (~indistylo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
800[07:39:23] *** Quits: thiras (~thiras@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
801[07:39:44] *** Joins: PuFFs (~puffs@replaced-ip)
802[07:40:06] *** Quits: skwingar (~skwingar@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)
803[07:40:39] *** Quits: OS-34800 (~OS-34800@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
804[07:41:55] *** Joins: jooni (~jooni@replaced-ip)
805[07:45:52] *** Joins: baloona (~baloona@replaced-ip)
806[07:47:39] *** Quits: Saar (~Saar@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
807[07:48:06] *** Joins: Saar (~Saar@replaced-ip)
808[07:48:14] *** Quits: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
809[07:49:47] *** Quits: baptist (~baptsk@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
810[07:50:14] *** Joins: kaosu (~kaosu@replaced-ip)
811[07:50:46] *** Joins: dec0n (~dec0n@replaced-ip)
812[07:51:46] *** Quits: Neomex (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
813[07:52:01] *** Joins: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip)
814[07:53:00] *** Joins: aruns__ (~indistylo@replaced-ip)
815[07:55:33] *** Quits: aruns (~indistylo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
816[07:56:46] <cr1t1cal> towo^work: so debian testing buster should be good
817[07:56:49] <cr1t1cal> towo^work: yes?
818[07:58:33] *** Joins: zer0x (~zer0x@replaced-ip)
819[07:58:50] <klys> cr1t1cal, why not install a new system for that?
820[08:00:15] *** Quits: kculpis (~kculpic@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
821[08:00:37] <cr1t1cal> klys: I am
822[08:00:58] <somiaj> cr1t1cal: you said that debian unstable is too old, what makes you think that?
823[08:01:21] <cr1t1cal> somiaj: not too old
824[08:01:33] <cr1t1cal> somiaj: sorry I was thinking of stable as I wrote it
825[08:01:42] <cr1t1cal> somiaj: its too 'on the edge'
826[08:01:43] *** Quits: soul-d (~dsoul@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
827[08:01:49] <cr1t1cal> I have never lived life so on the edge
828[08:01:53] <mutante> cr1t1cal: yea, stable for servers, testing for laptops. always served me fine
829[08:02:16] <cr1t1cal> alright well I guess it really is time to live life on the edge :D
830[08:02:20] <mutante> (and if it's a Thinkpad there is nothing to worry usually)
831[08:02:24] <somiaj> cr1t1cal: testing is kinda on the edge too, it has some protection from bugs due to sid sees packages first, but it also has some of its own issues (like slow security support)
832[08:02:47] <somiaj> cr1t1cal: but if the software you need is in buster, it works for many, just expect things to not be as smooth as stable and you may have to debug more issues.
833[08:03:19] <somiaj> cr1t1cal: what graphics card do you have again? I missed that
834[08:03:21] <mutante> in reality i dont recall having to debug an issue in years though.. or i am lucky or it's the right hardware
835[08:03:54] <mutante> or i dont try to use fancy 3D stuff, heh
836[08:04:01] *** Quits: rkta (~kt@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
837[08:04:53] *** Joins: Neomex (~quassel@replaced-ip)
838[08:06:58] *** Quits: Tehrabbitt (60f0049b@replaced-ip) (Quit: Page closed)
839[08:07:48] *** Quits: nic_ (~nic@replaced-ip) (Quit: Lost terminal)
840[08:09:18] *** Quits: jsdk (~jsdk@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving.)
841[08:10:17] *** Joins: chele (~chele@replaced-ip)
842[08:10:24] *** Joins: Haohmaru (~Haohmaru@replaced-ip)
843[08:10:36] *** Quits: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
844[08:10:46] *** Quits: KidBeta (~textual@replaced-ip) (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
845[08:10:55] *** Joins: nic_ (~nic@replaced-ip)
846[08:11:39] *** Joins: skwingar (~skwingar@replaced-ip)
847[08:12:37] *** Joins: ongolaBoy (~ongolaBoy@replaced-ip)
848[08:13:17] *** Quits: Arkaniad (~Arkaniad@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.6.3+deb2 - ##replaced-url
849[08:15:21] *** Quits: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
850[08:17:16] *** Joins: darxmurf (~darxmurf@replaced-ip)
851[08:17:22] <darxmurf> morning all and happy new year
852[08:17:36] *** Quits: Olufunmilayo (~Olufunmil@replaced-ip) (Quit: Olufunmilayo)
853[08:17:36] *** Quits: NotInTheMood (~NotInTheM@replaced-ip) (Quit: NotInTheMood)
854[08:17:38] *** Quits: skwingar (~skwingar@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)
855[08:18:04] *** Quits: sh1ro (~sh1ro@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
856[08:18:53] *** Quits: kaosu (~kaosu@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
857[08:19:39] *** Joins: High_Priest (~hp@replaced-ip)
858[08:20:18] *** Joins: patterson (~patterson@replaced-ip)
859[08:20:55] *** Joins: Texou (~Texou@replaced-ip)
860[08:20:57] *** Joins: Jkessler (~jack@replaced-ip)
861[08:21:02] *** Joins: MACscr (~MACscr@replaced-ip)
862[08:21:19] *** Joins: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip)
863[08:21:29] *** Quits: High_Priest (~hp@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
864[08:21:34] *** Joins: bertbob (~bertbob@replaced-ip)
865[08:22:27] *** Joins: sh1ro (~sh1ro@replaced-ip)
866[08:22:55] *** Joins: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
867[08:24:17] *** Quits: JackK (jack@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
868[08:25:53] *** Quits: iflema (~ian@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
869[08:26:07] *** Joins: skwingar (~skwingar@replaced-ip)
870[08:26:21] *** Joins: fearnothing (~nothing@replaced-ip)
871[08:26:25] *** Quits: bertbob (~bertbob@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
872[08:26:48] *** Joins: notadrop (~notadrop@replaced-ip)
873[08:27:00] *** Quits: eki (~eki@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
874[08:28:52] *** Joins: KidBeta (~textual@replaced-ip)
875[08:28:56] *** Joins: Olufunmilayo (~Olufunmil@replaced-ip)
876[08:29:34] *** Joins: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
877[08:29:37] *** Quits: Craig_ (~craig@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
878[08:29:54] *** Joins: llucenic (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
879[08:30:05] *** Quits: Hydrastra (~LUX@replaced-ip) (Quit: さよなら)
880[08:30:43] *** Joins: NotInTheMood (~NotInTheM@replaced-ip)
881[08:30:54] *** Joins: Hydrastra (~LUX@replaced-ip)
882[08:30:57] <notadrop> do any of you have the Spotify desktop app installed?
883[08:31:14] <notadrop> their website says to use their repo. I'm not sure, is that safe?
884[08:31:15] *** Quits: skwingar (~skwingar@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)
885[08:31:38] *** Joins: craigp (~craigp@replaced-ip)
886[08:31:38] *** Joins: eki (~eki@replaced-ip)
887[08:31:48] *** Joins: pingfloyd (~pingfloyd@replaced-ip)
888[08:32:15] *** Quits: cyborg-one (~cyborg-on@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
889[08:32:46] *** Joins: skwingar (~skwingar@replaced-ip)
890[08:33:05] <bl0ndii> notadrop - if you think its safe to use spotify then you should have same opinion of their repo ... you can always comment in your sources later i guess to stop it from updating
891[08:34:56] <kopper> notadrop: I used to have it with no problems. You have to import their key to use it.
892[08:35:17] <bl0ndii> sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.ORIG to make a backup before you change anything
893[08:35:22] <notadrop> bl0ndii: fair enough
894[08:35:36] *** Quits: tvn18 (~tvn18@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
895[08:36:04] *** Joins: baa44_ (~root@replaced-ip)
896[08:36:50] <notadrop> on a totally unrelated note... anyone here run the grsec kernel with graphics?
897[08:37:26] <notadrop> I booted with the grsec kernel, and it didn't seem to like gdm.
898[08:37:49] *** Quits: llucenic (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
899[08:38:02] *** Quits: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
900[08:38:17] *** Joins: llucenic (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
901[08:39:01] *** Quits: baa44 (~root@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
902[08:40:50] *** Quits: skwingar (~skwingar@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)
903[08:41:14] *** Joins: bertbob (~bertbob@replaced-ip)
904[08:41:23] *** Quits: Edu4rdSHL (~Edward@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)
905[08:42:05] *** Quits: NotInTheMood (~NotInTheM@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
906[08:42:14] *** Quits: Olufunmilayo (~Olufunmil@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
907[08:42:24] *** Joins: skwingar (~skwingar@replaced-ip)
908[08:43:19] *** Quits: skwingar (~skwingar@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
909[08:43:22] *** Joins: atrx (~Aung@replaced-ip)
910[08:43:28] *** Quits: McFloss (~aroncero@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
911[08:43:33] *** Joins: Olufunmilayo (~Olufunmil@replaced-ip)
912[08:43:45] *** Joins: Zorroness (~Zorroness@replaced-ip)
913[08:45:13] *** Joins: a777a (~a777a@replaced-ip)
914[08:45:16] *** Quits: yeticry (~yeticry@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
915[08:46:57] *** Quits: Nefertiti (~Nefertiti@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
916[08:47:05] *** Joins: NotInTheMood (~NotInTheM@replaced-ip)
917[08:47:10] *** Joins: yeticry (~yeticry@replaced-ip)
918[08:48:01] *** Joins: Nefertiti (~Nefertiti@replaced-ip)
919[08:48:49] *** Joins: gagrio (~gagrio@replaced-ip)
920[08:48:54] *** Quits: mzf (~fakhraee@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
921[08:49:06] *** Quits: gagrio (~gagrio@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
922[08:49:07] *** Quits: Lastrellik (~Lastrelli@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
923[08:49:24] *** Joins: gagrio (~gagrio@replaced-ip)
924[08:49:36] *** Joins: SanovaL (~Sandoval@replaced-ip)
925[08:50:28] *** Joins: mzf (~fakhraee@replaced-ip)
926[08:51:25] *** Joins: dayten (~gnoid@replaced-ip)
927[08:51:46] *** Joins: High_Priest (~hp@replaced-ip)
928[08:52:40] *** Joins: Kopfstein (~B@replaced-ip)
929[08:53:54] *** Quits: TimJay (~tim@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
930[08:54:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1651
931[08:55:29] *** Joins: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
932[08:55:32] *** Quits: diegogo (~diegogo__@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
933[08:55:33] *** Quits: dreamon__ (~dreamon@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
934[08:56:29] *** Quits: nic_ (~nic@replaced-ip) (Quit: bye)
935[08:59:28] *** Quits: atrx (~Aung@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
936[08:59:33] *** OtakuSenpai is now known as MaBunny
937[08:59:59] *** Quits: Jkessler (~jack@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
938[09:00:09] *** Joins: atrx (~Aung@replaced-ip)
939[09:00:09] *** Joins: atrx_ (~Aung@replaced-ip)
940[09:00:16] *** Quits: atrx (~Aung@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
941[09:00:20] *** Quits: atrx_ (~Aung@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
942[09:00:41] *** Joins: atrx (~Aung@replaced-ip)
943[09:01:04] *** Quits: atrx (~Aung@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
944[09:01:19] *** MaBunny is now known as Neel
945[09:01:25] *** Joins: atrx (~atrx@replaced-ip)
946[09:04:48] *** Joins: SmearedBeard (~SmearedBe@replaced-ip)
947[09:06:37] *** Joins: mosab (~mosab@replaced-ip)
948[09:07:33] *** Joins: seyeongkim (sid45616@replaced-ip)
949[09:08:31] *** Quits: xorgnak (~user@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
950[09:08:50] *** Joins: xorgnak (~user@replaced-ip)
951[09:09:37] *** Quits: delYsid (~user@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
952[09:09:50] *** Joins: BlueByte (~walther@replaced-ip)
953[09:12:02] *** Quits: satanowski (~daras@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
954[09:13:08] *** Joins: Pjusur (~Pjusur@replaced-ip)
955[09:13:25] *** Joins: atrx_ (~atrx@replaced-ip)
956[09:14:07] *** Joins: numbdewd (~numbdewd@replaced-ip)
957[09:16:01] *** Quits: atrx (~atrx@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
958[09:16:31] *** Quits: metts (~metts@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
959[09:16:42] *** Joins: TomyWork (~tomy@replaced-ip)
960[09:18:41] *** Quits: Haxxa (~Harrison@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
961[09:19:54] *** Joins: Sia- (~sia@replaced-ip)
962[09:20:49] *** Joins: Haxxa (~Harrison@replaced-ip)
963[09:21:16] *** Quits: foul_owl (~foul_owl@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)
964[09:24:44] *** Joins: magenbrot (~magenbrot@replaced-ip)
965[09:24:50] *** Quits: sh1ro (~sh1ro@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
966[09:25:12] *** Quits: t0adst00l (~sluggo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
967[09:25:35] *** Joins: schu-r (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
968[09:25:44] *** Joins: sh1ro (~sh1ro@replaced-ip)
969[09:26:38] *** Quits: llucenic (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
970[09:29:49] *** Joins: dreamon__ (~dreamon@replaced-ip)
971[09:30:36] *** Joins: cruncher_ (~cruncher@replaced-ip)
972[09:32:16] *** Quits: fearnothing (~nothing@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
973[09:32:48] *** Joins: alexgr (~alexgr@replaced-ip)
974[09:33:50] *** Joins: thiras (~thiras@replaced-ip)
975[09:33:53] *** Joins: jerdef82 (~jerdef@replaced-ip)
976[09:34:33] *** Quits: webuser5- (~webuser52@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
977[09:34:39] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
978[09:36:02] *** Joins: ProbablyNot (~user@replaced-ip)
979[09:36:37] *** Quits: thiras (~thiras@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
980[09:40:14] *** Joins: err404_ (~err404@replaced-ip)
981[09:40:25] *** Quits: Haxxa (~Harrison@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
982[09:41:26] *** Quits: Nnnavd (~Nnavd@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
983[09:42:34] *** Joins: baloona_ (~baloona@replaced-ip)
984[09:42:55] *** Joins: barbarinfourchu (~barbarinf@replaced-ip)
985[09:43:22] *** Joins: super_gollum (~ich@replaced-ip)
986[09:43:22] *** Joins: Haxxa (~Harrison@replaced-ip)
987[09:44:01] *** Joins: Elirips (~Elirips@replaced-ip)
988[09:44:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1657
989[09:44:15] *** Quits: baloona (~baloona@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
990[09:44:18] *** Quits: err404 (~err404@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
991[09:44:33] *** Quits: bl0ndii (~bl0ndy@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
992[09:46:35] *** Quits: Derptato (~notroot@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
993[09:46:50] *** Joins: __marco (~marco@replaced-ip)
994[09:47:35] *** Parts: notadrop (~notadrop@replaced-ip) ()
995[09:48:48] *** Joins: Derptato (~notroot@replaced-ip)
996[09:49:25] *** Joins: claraX (~siyuan@replaced-ip)
997[09:49:35] *** Parts: claraX (~siyuan@replaced-ip) ()
998[09:50:03] *** Quits: barbarinfourchu (~barbarinf@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
999[09:50:46] *** Joins: zamuro (~Samantha@replaced-ip)
1000[09:50:46] *** Quits: zamuro (~Samantha@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
1001[09:50:46] *** Joins: zamuro (~Samantha@replaced-ip)
1002[09:51:00] *** Quits: enki (~enki@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1003[09:51:28] *** Joins: overlord_tm (~andraz@replaced-ip)
1004[09:51:59] *** Joins: ewew (~ewew@replaced-ip)
1005[09:52:08] *** Joins: nomic (~nomic4@replaced-ip)
1006[09:52:14] *** Joins: peterrooney (~peter@replaced-ip)
1007[09:53:12] *** Joins: err404__ (~err404@replaced-ip)
1008[09:53:13] *** Joins: CR7AQR (~andre@replaced-ip)
1009[09:54:59] *** Joins: aruns (~indistylo@replaced-ip)
1010[09:55:27] *** Quits: err404_ (~err404@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1011[09:55:55] *** Joins: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip)
1012[09:56:03] *** Joins: enki (~enki@replaced-ip)
1013[09:56:05] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1014[09:56:14] *** Quits: atrx_ (~atrx@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1015[09:57:20] *** Joins: rohff_user_130 (~58_ident_@replaced-ip)
1016[09:57:22] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip)
1017[09:57:27] *** Quits: aruns__ (~indistylo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1018[09:58:41] *** Quits: err404__ (~err404@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1019[09:58:52] *** Quits: Rembo (Rembo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1020[10:00:14] *** Joins: bsdnoob (~bsdnoob@replaced-ip)
1021[10:00:17] *** Quits: Haxxa (~Harrison@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1022[10:00:41] *** Joins: voltinus (~voltinus@replaced-ip)
1023[10:00:50] *** Parts: voltinus (~voltinus@replaced-ip) ()
1024[10:00:53] *** Joins: Haxxa (~Harrison@replaced-ip)
1025[10:01:49] *** Quits: patterson (~patterson@replaced-ip) (Quit: I quit)
1026[10:03:01] *** Joins: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
1027[10:03:28] *** Joins: V-Vega- (~vvega@replaced-ip)
1028[10:04:44] *** Joins: RebelCoder (~RebelCode@replaced-ip)
1029[10:05:03] *** Quits: baa44_ (~root@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1030[10:05:28] *** Quits: mavhq (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1031[10:05:54] *** Quits: derpyhooves_ (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)
1032[10:06:45] *** Joins: mavhq (~quassel@replaced-ip)
1033[10:06:57] *** Quits: rohff_user_130 (~58_ident_@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1034[10:06:57] *** Quits: Haxxa (~Harrison@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
1035[10:06:59] *** Quits: Neel (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip) (Quit: With time comes grace...in perfect light in perfect place :))
1036[10:07:01] *** Joins: derpyhooves_ (~quassel@replaced-ip)
1037[10:08:06] *** Guest87912 is now known as Tristan-Speccy
1038[10:08:13] *** Joins: hikiko (~hikiko@replaced-ip)
1039[10:08:35] *** Joins: atrx (~atrx@replaced-ip)
1040[10:08:51] *** Quits: Tigerbot_Hesh (~TigerbotH@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1041[10:09:00] *** Joins: maxzor (~maxzor@replaced-ip)
1042[10:09:22] *** Joins: Tigerbot_Hesh (~TigerbotH@replaced-ip)
1043[10:09:33] *** Quits: vidjogamer (~vidjogame@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1044[10:09:53] *** Joins: NetTerminalGene (~NetTermin@replaced-ip)
1045[10:10:09] *** Joins: err404__ (~err404@replaced-ip)
1046[10:10:56] *** Joins: Haxxa (~Harrison@replaced-ip)
1047[10:11:53] *** Joins: vidjogamer (~vidjogame@replaced-ip)
1048[10:12:18] *** Joins: Nawab (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip)
1049[10:13:15] *** Joins: mrig (~mrig@replaced-ip)
1050[10:14:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1666
1051[10:14:06] <petn-randall> limbo_: Is there a reason you're trying to run everything in pypy?
1052[10:14:35] *** Quits: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1053[10:14:52] *** Quits: Nefertiti (~Nefertiti@replaced-ip) (Quit: ZZzzZZzz)
1054[10:15:30] *** Joins: srtu (~hypnotoad@replaced-ip)
1055[10:16:10] *** Joins: Antoninus (~Antoninus@replaced-ip)
1056[10:17:36] *** Joins: Slashman (~Slash@replaced-ip)
1057[10:18:27] *** Quits: LeandroLuiz (~clkalw@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1058[10:19:14] *** Joins: JustASlacker (~JustASlac@replaced-ip)
1059[10:20:27] *** Quits: numbdewd (~numbdewd@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1060[10:22:04] *** Quits: mzf (~fakhraee@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1061[10:23:01] *** Joins: iflema (~ian@replaced-ip)
1062[10:23:23] *** Joins: LeandroLuiz (~clkalw@replaced-ip)
1063[10:23:23] *** Quits: LeandroLuiz (~clkalw@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
1064[10:23:23] *** Joins: LeandroLuiz (~clkalw@replaced-ip)
1065[10:23:39] *** Joins: mzf (~fakhraee@replaced-ip)
1066[10:24:19] *** Quits: Sia- (~sia@replaced-ip) (Quit: ZZZzzz…)
1067[10:27:17] *** Joins: teclo- (42@replaced-ip)
1068[10:27:21] *** Quits: deicide- (~deicide-@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1069[10:27:49] *** Joins: Artox (~Artox@replaced-ip)
1070[10:28:44] *** Joins: orbiter (~orbiter@replaced-ip)
1071[10:28:54] *** Joins: rohff_user_188 (~21_ident_@replaced-ip)
1072[10:29:37] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1073[10:30:15] *** Joins: Rembo (Rembo@replaced-ip)
1074[10:30:40] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip)
1075[10:31:22] *** alchemistsw1 is now known as alchemistswl
1076[10:31:35] *** Quits: sudhackar_ (~sudhackar@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1077[10:31:49] *** Joins: leerg319 (~alexey@replaced-ip)
1078[10:32:07] *** Joins: sudhackar (~sudhackar@replaced-ip)
1079[10:32:10] *** Joins: GenteelBen (GenteelBen@replaced-ip)
1080[10:32:37] <hassoon[work]> 'morning
1081[10:32:54] *** Joins: ARSR (~arsr@replaced-ip)
1082[10:34:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1674
1083[10:34:23] *** Quits: handsome_feng (~feng@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1084[10:34:24] *** Joins: f4cl3y (~f4cl3y@replaced-ip)
1085[10:34:45] *** Joins: rephlexie (~rephlexie@replaced-ip)
1086[10:36:34] *** Joins: Ltem (~ltem@replaced-ip)
1087[10:37:06] *** Joins: Smeared_Beard (~SmearedBe@replaced-ip)
1088[10:38:46] *** Quits: Rembo (Rembo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1089[10:39:06] *** Joins: rootkea (~rootkea@replaced-ip)
1090[10:39:28] *** Joins: deicide- (~deicide-@replaced-ip)
1091[10:39:44] *** Quits: de-facto (~de-facto@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1092[10:40:02] *** Quits: SmearedBeard (~SmearedBe@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1093[10:40:12] *** Quits: a777a (~a777a@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1094[10:40:27] *** Joins: de-facto (~de-facto@replaced-ip)
1095[10:43:32] *** Joins: Kristjan (~Krisostoo@replaced-ip)
1096[10:44:08] *** Joins: bolovanos (~bolovanos@replaced-ip)
1097[10:44:52] *** Quits: Kristjan (~Krisostoo@replaced-ip) (Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.)))
1098[10:45:04] *** Joins: lucad111 (~lucad111@replaced-ip)
1099[10:45:58] *** Quits: amonn (~amon@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1100[10:47:45] *** Quits: rohff_user_188 (~21_ident_@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1101[10:48:29] *** Quits: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1102[10:49:38] <rootkea> Hello! I'm using Debian Stretch. I see a unicode rectangular box instead of 'penguin' on window title screenshot replaced-url
1103[10:49:57] <rootkea> I feel I need to install some unicode font, maybe?
1104[10:50:15] *** Quits: choon (~user@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1105[10:50:53] *** Joins: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip)
1106[10:51:01] <rootkea> But I see penguin on webpage and firefox tab title. So I'm not really sure
1107[10:51:18] <rootkea> Please check the screenshot.
1108[10:51:33] *** Joins: choon (~user@replaced-ip)
1109[10:51:52] <rootkea> Oh and I'm using XFCE BTW
1110[10:53:00] *** Quits: _bsurfer_ (~bsurfer@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1111[10:54:44] *** Quits: Sigyn (sigyn@replaced-ip) (Quit: People always have such a hard time believing that robots could do bad things.)
1112[10:55:17] *** Quits: boog (~boog@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1113[10:55:23] *** Joins: Sigyn (sigyn@replaced-ip)
1114[10:57:05] *** Quits: pingfloyd (~pingfloyd@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1115[10:57:31] *** Joins: pingfloyd (~pingfloyd@replaced-ip)
1116[10:57:57] *** Quits: Merixer (~Merixer@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1117[10:59:03] *** Joins: winem_ (~quassel@replaced-ip)
1118[10:59:59] *** Joins: gpunk (~gpunk@replaced-ip)
1119[11:00:27] <petn-randall> rootkea: You should be able to set the font in settings → appearance.
1120[11:00:35] *** Quits: JustASlacker (~JustASlac@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1121[11:00:48] *** Joins: JustASlacker (~JustASlac@replaced-ip)
1122[11:00:56] <petn-randall> rootkea: The best way to check which font supports the unicode snowman is to use libreoffice, paste the snowman, then just change the font all the time.
1123[11:01:23] <petn-randall> rootkea: gnome charmap would also work for that, but IMHO isn't that straight-forward to test.
1124[11:01:33] *** Quits: Haxxa (~Harrison@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1125[11:02:02] *** Quits: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1126[11:02:07] *** Quits: alexgr (~alexgr@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1127[11:02:33] *** Joins: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
1128[11:02:57] *** Joins: Haxxa (~Harrison@replaced-ip)
1129[11:04:03] *** Joins: baa44 (~root@replaced-ip)
1130[11:04:17] *** Quits: Dragon092 (~Dragon@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1131[11:05:43] *** Joins: gryffus (~gryffus@replaced-ip)
1132[11:06:49] *** Joins: dohfish (~oemillak@replaced-ip)
1133[11:08:22] <rootkea> petn-randall, Thanks! Libre-office indeed shows that unicode penguin isn't supported by Bitstream Vera Sans, my current font. Guess I need to choose some another font which supports UNICODE chars.
1134[11:08:50] <rootkea> Do you happen to know/recommend any particular font on Debian?
1135[11:08:56] *** Quits: baa44 (~root@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1136[11:09:18] *** Quits: atrx (~atrx@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
1137[11:09:38] <petn-randall> rootkea: Hard to say, because there probably aren't any fonts that cover all unicode codepoints.
1138[11:09:59] <petn-randall> rootkea: Just pick the one you like that covers the characters you care about.
1139[11:10:23] *** Quits: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
1140[11:10:58] *** Quits: cruncher_ (~cruncher@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1141[11:12:03] *** Joins: Merixer (~Merixer@replaced-ip)
1142[11:12:11] *** Joins: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip)
1143[11:12:47] <rootkea> petn-randall, Okay, thanks!
1144[11:14:14] *** Quits: emdee (~noEmail@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1145[11:15:00] *** Joins: inspectorcluseau (~Inspector@replaced-ip)
1146[11:15:04] *** Joins: martinus__ (~martin@replaced-ip)
1147[11:15:20] *** Parts: ewew (~ewew@replaced-ip) ("Leaving")
1148[11:15:25] *** Quits: Kopfstein (~B@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1149[11:15:26] <gluon> should i file a bug against a package in stable, even if unstable has a newer version of the package that i cannot test whether the bug has been fixed or not?
1150[11:15:44] <gluon> in other words, is it acceptable to file bugs against stable?
1151[11:15:56] <gluon> without testing unstable first
1152[11:16:16] *** Quits: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip) (Quit: Hold on, brb.)
1153[11:16:32] <gluon> there doesn't seem to be a way to target a specific debian release when reporting a bug
1154[11:16:36] *** Joins: OS-34115 (~OS-34115@replaced-ip)
1155[11:16:48] *** Joins: Tiffon (~name@replaced-ip)
1156[11:17:04] *** Joins: Kopfstein (~B@replaced-ip)
1157[11:17:34] *** Joins: cruncher_ (~cruncher@replaced-ip)
1158[11:17:49] *** Quits: ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1159[11:18:25] *** Joins: DerLG (~derlg@replaced-ip)
1160[11:19:39] *** Joins: rekaf (~rekaf@replaced-ip)
1161[11:19:52] *** Joins: AsciiWolf (~drusek@replaced-ip)
1162[11:21:46] *** Joins: iderik (~idk@replaced-ip)
1163[11:22:24] *** Joins: lingkhang (~lingkhang@replaced-ip)
1164[11:22:42] *** Joins: t0adst00l (~sluggo@replaced-ip)
1165[11:22:44] *** Joins: thiras (~thiras@replaced-ip)
1166[11:23:08] *** Joins: kzimmermann (~username@replaced-ip)
1167[11:23:43] *** Joins: arich (~adam.rich@176.24.60.148)
1168[11:24:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1684
1169[11:24:49] *** Joins: lpopov (~lpopov@replaced-ip)
1170[11:26:13] *** Quits: Delta-One (~zero@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
1171[11:28:21] *** Joins: PoaB (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
1172[11:28:33] *** Joins: thinkpad (~thinkpad@replaced-ip)
1173[11:33:37] *** Joins: crapp (~saedelaer@replaced-ip)
1174[11:33:52] *** Quits: ArlequInOut (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1175[11:34:28] *** Quits: KidBeta (~textual@replaced-ip) (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
1176[11:34:39] *** Quits: citypw (~citypw@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1177[11:34:57] *** r0Oter is now known as r00ter
1178[11:35:49] *** Quits: jooni (~jooni@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1179[11:35:51] *** Quits: rootkea (~rootkea@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1180[11:36:07] *** Quits: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Quit: nix64bit)
1181[11:37:34] *** Quits: cruncher_ (~cruncher@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1182[11:39:22] *** Joins: rootkea (~rootkea@replaced-ip)
1183[11:40:17] *** Joins: ArlequInOut (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip)
1184[11:40:18] *** Joins: kai_w (~kjw53@replaced-ip)
1185[11:40:46] *** Joins: botho (~botho@replaced-ip)
1186[11:41:05] *** Joins: baloona (~baloona@replaced-ip)
1187[11:41:19] *** Joins: altin (~altin@replaced-ip)
1188[11:42:43] *** Quits: err404__ (~err404@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1189[11:42:48] *** Joins: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip)
1190[11:43:00] *** Joins: dutchfish (~wil@replaced-ip)
1191[11:43:05] *** Joins: err404 (~err404@replaced-ip)
1192[11:43:18] <kai_w> I've run into a bug - system fails to boot on 4.9.0-4 (stretch) with the message "Missing necessary member of multi-device filesystem".
1193[11:43:31] <kai_w> Works fine on 4.9.0-3, could I get some help debugging so I can report this?
1194[11:43:43] *** Quits: baloona_ (~baloona@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1195[11:44:00] *** Joins: Makaveli7 (~Makaveli7@replaced-ip)
1196[11:44:45] *** Quits: hans_ (~hans@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1197[11:45:34] *** Quits: Makaveli7 (~Makaveli7@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
1198[11:46:01] *** Quits: pingfloyd (~pingfloyd@replaced-ip) (Quit: ☮ out)
1199[11:46:09] <dutchfish> kai_w, is this on a raid systeem or ZFS?
1200[11:46:33] *** Quits: p0g0 (~pogo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1201[11:46:35] *** Quits: ArlequInOut (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1202[11:46:45] <kai_w> btrfs raid
1203[11:47:14] *** Joins: Radkos (~radkos@replaced-ip)
1204[11:47:51] *** Joins: oish (~charlie@replaced-ip)
1205[11:48:09] *** Joins: citypw (~citypw@replaced-ip)
1206[11:48:16] *** Quits: CuteMeOwnThroat (~iridos@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1207[11:48:38] *** Joins: ArlequInOut (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip)
1208[11:49:10] *** Joins: p0g0 (~pogo@replaced-ip)
1209[11:49:39] *** Quits: luckman212 (~luckman21@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1210[11:50:23] *** Quits: conf (~x@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1211[11:51:37] *** Joins: luckman212 (~luckman21@replaced-ip)
1212[11:52:08] <dutchfish> jelly, and here it is replaced-url
1213[11:53:17] *** Joins: nathamanath (~nathamana@replaced-ip)
1214[11:53:28] *** Joins: numbdewd (~numbdewd@replaced-ip)
1215[11:54:10] *** Joins: p3rs3us (~jduro@replaced-ip)
1216[11:54:15] *** Quits: ArlequInOut (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
1217[11:54:30] *** Quits: mosab (~mosab@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1218[11:54:40] *** Joins: jollyruggero (~jollyrugg@replaced-ip)
1219[11:54:48] *** Joins: mosab (~mosab@replaced-ip)
1220[11:55:36] <jollyruggero> hello everyone. Is there a way to manually slow down my internet connection? I'm trying to do some test with a remote machine and I would need to check the minimum speed connection that I need to work with it
1221[11:55:43] *** Quits: pvoigt (~Linux@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)
1222[11:56:15] *** Joins: pvoigt (~Linux@replaced-ip)
1223[11:56:46] <dutchfish> kai_w, check bootlog kernellog, did the btrfs device scan ran?
1224[11:56:46] *** Quits: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1225[11:57:53] <dutchfish> kai_w, posting some logs the debian pastebin would be helpfull
1226[11:58:27] *** Joins: wirosableng (~x@replaced-ip)
1227[11:58:41] <gpunk> jollyruggero replaced-url
1228[11:59:21] *** Joins: vvor (~vvor@replaced-ip)
1229[11:59:46] <gpunk> jollyruggero keyword traffic shaping :)
1230[12:00:10] *** Joins: zeitsofa (~zeitsofa@replaced-ip)
1231[12:00:13] *** Quits: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1232[12:00:23] *** Quits: smrcascao (c2412543@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1233[12:00:30] <gpunk> replaced-url
1234[12:00:31] *** Quits: lankanmon (~LKNnet@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1235[12:00:33] *** Joins: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip)
1236[12:01:48] <JustASlacker> gpunk: nice
1237[12:01:53] <jollyruggero> gpunk, traffic shaping, gotcha! Thanks for the links, I didn't know about trickle, seems what I was looking for
1238[12:02:03] <gpunk> :)
1239[12:02:15] *** Joins: MarioBranco (~MarioBran@replaced-ip)
1240[12:02:20] *** Joins: Aussie_matt (~quassel@replaced-ip)
1241[12:02:29] *** Quits: Aussie_matt (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1242[12:02:57] <ghormoon> hi, anyone has experience with minidlna and subtitles? do I need to set up anything specific? tried both avi+srt and merging into mkv, but still, it doesn't seem to pass the subs through to TV (my first attempt with dlna though)
1243[12:03:44] *** Joins: ArlequInOut (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip)
1244[12:04:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1691
1245[12:04:08] *** Joins: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip)
1246[12:04:14] *** Joins: rootkea_ (~rootkea@replaced-ip)
1247[12:04:46] <ghormoon> nevermind, the mkv variant works, just did mistake when setting up, though can I make it take srt too?
1248[12:05:01] *** Quits: Ltem (~ltem@replaced-ip) (Quit: bbl)
1249[12:05:32] *** Quits: rootkea (~rootkea@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1250[12:05:41] *** Quits: altin (~altin@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1251[12:06:39] *** rootkea_ is now known as rootkea
1252[12:07:55] <petn-randall> gluon: If you use the reportbug tool, it'll file a bug properly, including any version information. It's always nice to know if that problem is fixed in newer versions, so if you want to test it, by all means do, and include that info in the bug report.
1253[12:07:57] *** Quits: Kopfstein (~B@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1254[12:08:03] *** Joins: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip)
1255[12:08:20] *** Quits: ArlequInOut (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1256[12:10:01] *** Joins: Kopfstein (~B@replaced-ip)
1257[12:10:01] *** Quits: dselect (~dselect@replaced-ip) (Quit: ouch... that hurt)
1258[12:10:44] <gluon> petn-randall: yeah, i'll test it on a VM running debian unstable as well
1259[12:10:57] <gluon> thanks
1260[12:11:11] *** Joins: dselect (~dselect@replaced-ip)
1261[12:11:19] <petn-randall> gluon: You can also just set up a sid chroot if it's only userspace parts that are affected.
1262[12:11:35] *** Quits: bnw (~bnw@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1263[12:12:58] <kai_w> dutchfish: how can I get the bootlog? I don't think it gets far enough to mount any filesystem to write the log to.
1264[12:13:35] <dutchfish> kai_w, if you can boot the old kernel?
1265[12:14:05] *** Quits: kzimmermann (~username@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1266[12:14:11] *** Quits: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1267[12:14:14] <dutchfish> kai_w, just to make sure we have/or not a kernel problem on your system
1268[12:15:06] <dutchfish> kai_w, if you havent removed it, -3 is still there
1269[12:17:21] <kai_w> dutchfish, I can boot -3, this is running now. But that doesn't tell me if the device scan ran when I boot -4 or does it?
1270[12:17:36] <gluon> petn-randall: yeah, good idea
1271[12:17:49] <kai_w> dmesg only includes the last boot right?
1272[12:18:04] *** Joins: yareckonirc (~yareckoni@replaced-ip)
1273[12:18:14] <dutchfish> kai_w, probably not. Now look at your logs, specially kernel, system and journalctl.
1274[12:18:20] *** Joins: turfal (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
1275[12:18:39] <dutchfish> kai_w, try to determine if the disks are in good shape or not.
1276[12:18:51] *** Joins: amcorrei1 (~amcorreia@replaced-ip)
1277[12:19:35] *** Quits: auror (~auror@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1278[12:19:53] <kai_w> As far as I can tell they're OK, a BTRFS scrub ran fine as scheduled last weekend. smartctl reports no warnings.
1279[12:20:32] *** Quits: winem_ (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1280[12:20:39] *** Quits: rootkea (~rootkea@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1281[12:21:49] *** Quits: vvor (~vvor@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
1282[12:25:27] *** Joins: prometheus_falli (~sluggo@replaced-ip)
1283[12:25:42] *** Quits: t0adst00l (~sluggo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1284[12:29:32] *** Quits: oish (~charlie@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1285[12:29:37] *** Quits: lpopov (~lpopov@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1286[12:29:50] *** Joins: p5ych0n37 (~mtt_l@replaced-ip)
1287[12:30:00] <dutchfish> kai_w, ok, maybe someone else with more expertise on BTRFS can help you to debug this in the boot editor. I dont use it myself. I know it does the scan on boot, i suspect that is the entry point were the bug appears. iow, it wont find the devices. Here is a simular case (probably) replaced-url
1288[12:30:28] *** Parts: p5ych0n37 (~mtt_l@replaced-ip) ()
1289[12:30:37] *** Joins: oish (~charlie@replaced-ip)
1290[12:30:42] <dutchfish> kai_w, or ask #btrfs
1291[12:31:24] *** Quits: t0aster0ven (~iaeofjgsk@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1292[12:31:58] *** Joins: mibo (~mibo@replaced-ip)
1293[12:34:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1685
1294[12:34:03] *** Quits: magnulu (~magnulu@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1295[12:34:54] *** Joins: t0aster0ven (~iaeofjgsk@replaced-ip)
1296[12:35:12] *** Quits: choon (~user@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1297[12:35:16] *** Joins: magnulu (~magnulu@replaced-ip)
1298[12:35:49] *** Quits: thiras (~thiras@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
1299[12:36:17] *** Joins: choon (~user@replaced-ip)
1300[12:39:15] *** Joins: nic_ (~nic@replaced-ip)
1301[12:40:39] *** Quits: vichib (~vichib@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1302[12:41:54] *** Quits: temy (~cccp@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
1303[12:42:21] *** Joins: czesmir (~stefan@replaced-ip)
1304[12:42:56] *** Quits: cr1t1cal (~cr1t1cal@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
1305[12:43:11] *** Joins: Delta-One (~zero@replaced-ip)
1306[12:43:24] *** Joins: llucenic (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
1307[12:43:34] *** Quits: Kobaz (~kobaz@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - ##replaced-url
1308[12:44:18] *** Joins: thiras (~thiras@replaced-ip)
1309[12:44:40] *** Joins: rizzo (~RizzoTheR@replaced-ip)
1310[12:45:07] *** Joins: Kobaz (~kobaz@replaced-ip)
1311[12:47:22] *** Joins: shellclear (~shellclea@replaced-ip)
1312[12:48:59] *** Joins: baa44 (~root@replaced-ip)
1313[12:51:35] <kai_w> dutchfish: OK, will do. thanks for helping :)
1314[12:51:47] *** Joins: ahmadadnan (~ahmadadna@replaced-ip)
1315[12:52:04] <dutchfish> kai_w, i wish i could do better, in any case good luck.
1316[12:52:54] *** Joins: Gaaab (~Gaaab@replaced-ip)
1317[12:54:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1692
1318[12:54:18] *** Joins: lazarus_zed_ (~lazarus_z@replaced-ip)
1319[12:54:25] <ahmadadnan> hi all, im trying to install Debian 9.3 on a new dell r440 server but the installer cannot detect the disks
1320[12:54:26] <ahmadadnan> probably this is because of perc drivers
1321[12:54:26] <ahmadadnan> is there any solution for this?
1322[12:54:26] <ahmadadnan> thanks in advance
1323[12:54:32] *** Quits: nrx (~metax@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1324[12:54:37] *** Joins: Ericounet (~Ericounet@replaced-ip)
1325[12:54:42] *** Quits: lingkhang (~lingkhang@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)
1326[12:54:48] *** Quits: lazarus_zed_ (~lazarus_z@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1327[12:55:03] *** Joins: nrx (~metax@replaced-ip)
1328[12:56:00] *** Joins: sh00p (~z@replaced-ip)
1329[12:56:12] *** Joins: emdee (~noEmail@replaced-ip)
1330[12:56:16] *** Quits: lazarus_zed (~lazarus_z@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1331[12:56:17] *** Quits: nrx (~metax@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1332[12:56:30] *** Joins: Nekojimi (~jimj316@replaced-ip)
1333[12:56:38] *** Joins: shellclear_ (~shellclea@replaced-ip)
1334[12:57:39] <petn-randall> ahmadadnan: What RAID controller do you have in there?
1335[12:59:10] *** Quits: plasticle (~plasticle@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)
1336[13:00:21] *** Quits: shellclear (~shellclea@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1337[13:01:00] <ahmadadnan> all the raid the controller in the installer cannot be used..
1338[13:01:37] *** Joins: plasticle (~plasticle@replaced-ip)
1339[13:02:15] <ahmadadnan> sorry, the raid controller is PERC
1340[13:02:20] <ahmadadnan> H740
1341[13:03:38] *** Quits: kardborren (~weechat@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1342[13:03:45] *** Quits: oish (~charlie@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1343[13:04:33] *** Quits: Kopfstein (~B@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1344[13:05:40] *** Joins: GadgetGuru (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
1345[13:05:57] *** Joins: Kopfstein (~B@replaced-ip)
1346[13:07:21] *** Quits: ahmadadnan (~ahmadadna@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1347[13:07:43] *** Quits: V-Vega- (~vvega@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
1348[13:07:43] *** Quits: GadgetGuru (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
1349[13:07:49] *** Joins: aaap (~aaap@replaced-ip)
1350[13:08:20] *** Joins: Caplain (~shayne@replaced-ip)
1351[13:08:41] *** Joins: ahmadadnan (~ahmadadna@replaced-ip)
1352[13:09:03] *** Joins: flux242 (~chatzilla@replaced-ip)
1353[13:09:31] *** Quits: upbeta (~upbeta@replaced-ip) (Quit: upbeta)
1354[13:09:39] *** Joins: upbeta (~upbeta@replaced-ip)
1355[13:09:48] *** Joins: auror (~auror@replaced-ip)
1356[13:09:55] *** Joins: Ilyas (uid43013@replaced-ip)
1357[13:10:03] *** Joins: killian99 (~killian99@replaced-ip)
1358[13:10:03] *** Quits: auror (~auror@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
1359[13:10:03] *** Joins: auror (~auror@replaced-ip)
1360[13:10:42] *** Joins: konakona__ (~konakona_@replaced-ip)
1361[13:11:10] *** Quits: konakona_ (~konakona_@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1362[13:11:26] *** Joins: clemens3 (~clemens@replaced-ip)
1363[13:11:51] *** Quits: electro33 (uid613@replaced-ip) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
1364[13:12:24] *** Joins: kardborren (~weechat@replaced-ip)
1365[13:12:35] <petn-randall> ahmadadnan: Is that the "Harpoon" series? AFAICS there aren't any drivers in the Linux kernel available.
1366[13:13:05] *** Joins: shellclear (~shellclea@replaced-ip)
1367[13:14:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1698
1368[13:14:09] *** Joins: ziongate (~angelo@replaced-ip)
1369[13:14:45] *** Quits: LiuYan (~NiHola@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1370[13:14:49] <petn-randall> ahmadadnan: It seems that kernel support exists from v4.11 onwards, so you could try installing Debian via debootstrap and the kernel from stretch-backports.
1371[13:16:16] <ahmadadnan> yes harpoon
1372[13:16:45] <petn-randall> !debootstrap
1373[13:16:46] <dpkg> debootstrap can create a basic Debian system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a <chroot>. It is key to installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux system, ask me about <install guide>. replaced-url
1374[13:17:11] *** Joins: anirban (~anirban@replaced-ip)
1375[13:17:12] *** Joins: lvaz (~lvaz@replaced-ip)
1376[13:17:13] *** Quits: shellclear_ (~shellclea@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1377[13:17:21] *** Joins: oish (~charlie@replaced-ip)
1378[13:17:45] *** Joins: Leoneof (~Leoneof@replaced-ip)
1379[13:17:54] <petn-randall> ahmadadnan: You could boot the testing live image to check if you can see the drives there. If that's the case, you can then proceed with boostrapping stretch + backports onto the system.
1380[13:18:29] *** Joins: Ridout (coffee@replaced-ip)
1381[13:18:31] *** Joins: winem_ (~quassel@replaced-ip)
1382[13:19:49] *** Quits: Hydrastra (~LUX@replaced-ip) (Quit: さよなら)
1383[13:20:05] *** Quits: iderik (~idk@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1384[13:21:56] *** Joins: neglesaks (~neglesaks@replaced-ip)
1385[13:23:16] *** Joins: hans_ (~hans@replaced-ip)
1386[13:23:20] *** Joins: ahmadadnan2 (~ahmadadna@replaced-ip)
1387[13:23:37] *** Joins: upbeta_______ (~upbeta@replaced-ip)
1388[13:24:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1705
1389[13:25:27] *** Quits: tpanarch1st (~tpanarch1@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1390[13:25:35] *** Quits: ahmadadnan (~ahmadadna@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1391[13:25:55] <Leoneof> hi, I have debian repo on my local pc1, running apache, the second pc2 can access local repo for pc1, but when i use 'sudo apt-get update' i get this message : replaced-url
1392[13:27:27] *** Quits: Kopfstein (~B@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1393[13:27:46] *** Quits: upbeta (~upbeta@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1394[13:28:29] <gpunk> i think it s the trusted.pgp thing
1395[13:28:30] *** Quits: Gurty (~princess@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1396[13:28:47] <gpunk> (again)
1397[13:29:23] *** Joins: Kopfstein (~B@replaced-ip)
1398[13:29:56] *** Joins: lulz404 (~lulz404@replaced-ip)
1399[13:30:08] *** Joins: Brigo (~Brigo@replaced-ip)
1400[13:30:19] <Leoneof> gpunk: yes something like gpg, don't know how to fix it for intranet, but I wish to bypass it, if possible.
1401[13:30:43] <gpunk> just move it to /root
1402[13:30:46] <gpunk> hold on
1403[13:31:14] *** Joins: p200300C1C3CF0B5 (~vinc@replaced-ip)
1404[13:31:32] *** Joins: iderik (~idk@replaced-ip)
1405[13:31:43] <p200300C1C3CF0B5> 598 7587 28 709698854 58 54444444 28758 95487 64455567850 24333879 658277684444 6753 6754 58 6584 8967775 83705 654 785 728 26 109 2584
1406[13:31:55] <Brigo> i have a weird wifi problem, NM don't see my network, just mine, i can see the other. I was working ok suddenly it stopped working, any insight?
1407[13:32:03] *** Quits: Caplain (~shayne@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1408[13:33:03] *** Quits: jollyruggero (~jollyrugg@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1409[13:33:11] <p200300C1C3CF0B5> And You didn't change any network settings just before it stopped working?
1410[13:33:24] *** Parts: lulz404 (~lulz404@replaced-ip) ()
1411[13:33:27] <dutchfish> Brigo, stock kernel | debian/stable ?
1412[13:33:54] <Brigo> oldstable i think
1413[13:34:04] <Brigo> yes, 8.10
1414[13:34:10] *** Quits: p200300C1C3CF0B5 (~vinc@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
1415[13:34:20] <Brigo> i could upgrade but it was working so i can't see the poing
1416[13:34:33] *** Quits: amorel (~amorel@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1417[13:34:39] *** Joins: friend_to_pandas (~user@replaced-ip)
1418[13:34:51] <dutchfish> Brigo, ay, you better upgrade to stable. Or old-bpo.
1419[13:35:24] *** Joins: turfal1 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
1420[13:35:24] <Brigo> well, i could.
1421[13:35:55] <darxmurf> What's the best practice between rsnapsnoting machines "/*" via RSH with a password file or via SSH with a password less key with root access ?
1422[13:36:34] *** Joins: tpanarch1st (~tpanarch1@replaced-ip)
1423[13:36:36] <Brigo> i really don't like because is a small laptop and new software versions are bigger and this laptop is already slow.
1424[13:38:11] *** Quits: turfal (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1425[13:38:12] *** Quits: Smeared_Beard (~SmearedBe@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1426[13:38:15] *** Quits: gpunk (~gpunk@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1427[13:38:20] <friend_to_pandas> Is Ctrl-Alt-N a hard-coded shortcut? My assignments of that in keyboard shortcuts or in Emacs don't work any more in Debian 9, unlike Debian 8/7.
1428[13:38:32] *** Quits: alchemistswl (~alchemist@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1429[13:39:37] *** Quits: lvaz (~lvaz@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1430[13:39:47] *** Joins: SmearedBeard (~SmearedBe@replaced-ip)
1431[13:39:55] *** Quits: turfal1 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1432[13:40:11] *** Quits: rephlexie (~rephlexie@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1433[13:40:13] *** Joins: Gurty (~princess@replaced-ip)
1434[13:40:13] *** Quits: Gurty (~princess@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
1435[13:40:13] *** Joins: Gurty (~princess@replaced-ip)
1436[13:40:18] *** Joins: Guest86032 (~NotMe@replaced-ip)
1437[13:40:24] *** Joins: echocrash (~echocrash@replaced-ip)
1438[13:40:34] <Brigo> dutchfish, ok, it looks like my card can't change to the channel 13. Maybe a hardware limitation.
1439[13:40:39] *** Joins: lvaz (~lvaz@replaced-ip)
1440[13:40:46] *** Parts: echocrash (~echocrash@replaced-ip) ("WeeChat 2.0.1")
1441[13:40:48] *** Parts: Guest86032 (~NotMe@replaced-ip) ("WeeChat 2.0.1")
1442[13:40:51] *** Joins: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip)
1443[13:40:54] *** Joins: needle (~needle@replaced-ip)
1444[13:44:22] *** Joins: gpunk (~gpunk@replaced-ip)
1445[13:47:30] *** Joins: cdown_ (~cdown@replaced-ip)
1446[13:47:38] *** Quits: gpunk (~gpunk@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1447[13:47:38] *** Quits: Antoninus (~Antoninus@replaced-ip) (Quit: Antoninus)
1448[13:47:46] *** Joins: gpunk (~gpunk@replaced-ip)
1449[13:48:13] *** Parts: needle (~needle@replaced-ip) ()
1450[13:48:36] *** Joins: mtn (~mtn@replaced-ip)
1451[13:48:47] *** Joins: wzyy2 (~wzyy2@replaced-ip)
1452[13:48:49] *** Joins: rohff_user_234 (~242_ident@replaced-ip)
1453[13:49:35] *** Joins: Antoninus (~Antoninus@replaced-ip)
1454[13:49:35] *** Quits: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1455[13:49:37] *** cdown_ is now known as cdown
1456[13:50:02] *** Quits: jareth_ (~jareth_@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1457[13:50:27] *** Quits: warai_otoko (~warai_oto@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1458[13:50:44] *** Joins: jareth_ (~jareth_@replaced-ip)
1459[13:52:03] *** Joins: aruns__ (~indistylo@replaced-ip)
1460[13:53:45] *** Quits: konakona__ (~konakona_@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1461[13:54:19] *** Quits: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1462[13:54:25] *** Quits: aruns (~indistylo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1463[13:54:26] *** Joins: baptist (~baptsk@replaced-ip)
1464[13:54:37] *** Joins: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip)
1465[13:55:08] *** Joins: diamvw (~kdiam@replaced-ip)
1466[13:56:41] *** Quits: baloona (~baloona@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1467[13:57:56] *** Quits: Leoneof (~Leoneof@replaced-ip) ()
1468[13:58:05] *** Joins: srtu_ (~hypnotoad@replaced-ip)
1469[13:58:13] *** Joins: LiuYan (~NiHola@replaced-ip)
1470[13:58:38] <diamvw> Hello. What is the update ration for debian stable? I have an installation for 1 month and nothing seems to be updated.
1471[13:58:46] *** Quits: upbeta_______ (~upbeta@replaced-ip) (Quit: upbeta_______)
1472[13:58:58] *** Joins: Evol (~no@replaced-ip)
1473[13:59:15] *** Joins: jsdk (~jsdk@replaced-ip)
1474[13:59:31] *** Quits: wzyy2 (~wzyy2@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1475[14:00:02] *** Quits: Kopfstein (~B@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
1476[14:00:07] <babilen> diamvw: 0.2
1477[14:00:10] *** Joins: baloona (~baloona@replaced-ip)
1478[14:00:57] <diamvw> babilen: 0.2 per year?
1479[14:02:00] <babilen> diamvw: It's impossible to say .. could you paste your sources.list(s) and the output of "apt update" and "apt list --upgradable" to replaced-url
1480[14:02:01] *** Quits: srtu (~hypnotoad@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1481[14:02:59] *** Joins: wzyy2 (~wzyy2@replaced-ip)
1482[14:03:43] *** Quits: oish (~charlie@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1483[14:03:43] *** Quits: lvaz (~lvaz@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1484[14:04:10] *** Quits: Ridout (coffee@replaced-ip) (Quit: Lost terminal)
1485[14:04:11] *** Joins: lvaz (~lvaz@replaced-ip)
1486[14:05:16] <bolt> it's closer to 30%
1487[14:05:56] *** Joins: Guest42834 (~quassel@replaced-ip)
1488[14:06:03] *** Quits: rohff_user_234 (~242_ident@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1489[14:06:12] <diamvw> these are my sources replaced-url
1490[14:06:12] <diamvw> unfortunately i don't have access to this machine but it show me no updates
1491[14:06:19] *** Joins: rohff_user_124 (~37_ident_@replaced-ip)
1492[14:06:45] <diamvw> bolt: so maybe every 4 months?
1493[14:06:59] *** Quits: wzyy2 (~wzyy2@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1494[14:07:30] <bolt> diamvw: i have no idea what an "update ration" is. updates are pushed as they become available.
1495[14:07:31] *** Quits: CodeBlue1776 (~CodeBlue1@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1496[14:07:38] *** Joins: maxlatern[m] (maxlaternm@replaced-ip)
1497[14:07:50] *** Joins: wzyy2 (~wzyy2@replaced-ip)
1498[14:08:03] *** Joins: b00kworm (bookwormre@replaced-ip)
1499[14:08:15] <bolt> diamvw: try running the commands babilen posted
1500[14:08:23] *** Joins: holden- (~holden-@replaced-ip)
1501[14:08:43] *** Joins: CodeBlue1776 (~CodeBlue1@replaced-ip)
1502[14:08:54] <diamvw> bolt: I meant the frequency of updates. It seems to be so infrequent?
1503[14:08:59] <bolt> diamvw: also, if you've installed something that auto-upgrades your system, you might never see it.
1504[14:09:01] <babilen> diamvw: You want to add "contrib non-free" to security and possible backports also, but that looks fine apart from that
1505[14:09:12] <dutchfish> Brigo, one last thought, maybe your router got stuck on this. I have seen routers going of on this channel, after an automatic firmware update. Check your regional settings.
1506[14:09:58] <babilen> diamvw: There are constant upgrades, but it really depends on the number of packages you have installed -- Official point releases can be seen here: replaced-url
1507[14:10:06] *** Joins: AlexPortable (uid7568@replaced-ip)
1508[14:10:09] *** Quits: rafalcpp (~racalcppp@replaced-ip) ()
1509[14:11:09] *** Quits: LiuYan (~NiHola@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1510[14:11:12] *** Joins: nog3_ (~tud3@replaced-ip)
1511[14:11:14] *** Quits: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Quit: dionysus69)
1512[14:11:14] <babilen> replaced-url
1513[14:11:55] <babilen> As that included a kernel update, I'd be surprised if you didn't get any new packages
1514[14:12:01] *** Quits: gpunk (~gpunk@replaced-ip) (Quit: gpunk)
1515[14:12:26] <diamvw> babilen: thank you.
1516[14:12:26] *** Quits: nog3_ (~tud3@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
1517[14:12:34] <diamvw> I will try it
1518[14:12:44] *** Joins: rafalcpp (~racalcppp@replaced-ip)
1519[14:12:49] <babilen> But please run the commands I mentioned earlier and paste their output, that would allow us to actually debug the issue rather than hypothesise
1520[14:12:53] *** Joins: shellclear_ (~shellclea@replaced-ip)
1521[14:13:13] *** Parts: fr0tzed (~fr0tzed@replaced-ip) ("Probably going to bed")
1522[14:13:28] <diamvw> I will do them as fast as i have access to this machine.
1523[14:15:32] <diamvw> I am sending this from a opensuse workstation and i am little frustrated with how it rolls as a distribution. Regarding a workstation - desktop for development, what is debian recommendation?
1524[14:15:57] *** Quits: rohff_user_124 (~37_ident_@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1525[14:16:23] *** Quits: shellclear (~shellclea@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1526[14:16:36] *** Joins: kaliima4 (~user@replaced-ip)
1527[14:16:46] *** Quits: baloona (~baloona@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1528[14:17:02] *** Joins: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip)
1529[14:17:05] *** Quits: verboese (~verboese@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - ##replaced-url
1530[14:17:15] *** Quits: Namarrgon (~glei@replaced-ip) (Quit: isolate all the tables)
1531[14:17:29] *** Quits: wzyy2 (~wzyy2@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1532[14:17:45] *** Quits: rafalcpp (~racalcppp@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1533[14:17:59] *** Joins: rafalcpp (~racalcppp@replaced-ip)
1534[14:18:04] *** Joins: wzyy2 (~wzyy2@replaced-ip)
1535[14:18:15] <bolt> diamvw: can you be more specific? debian is an excellent development desktop, if that's what you're asking.
1536[14:18:18] *** Joins: Namarrgon (~glei@replaced-ip)
1537[14:18:57] *** Quits: iflema (~ian@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1538[14:19:20] *** Quits: holden- (~holden-@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1539[14:19:27] *** Quits: shellclear_ (~shellclea@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1540[14:19:44] *** Joins: rohff_user_161 (~99_ident_@replaced-ip)
1541[14:19:50] <diamvw> bolt: yes you are right. I meant which repository should i track? (stable + backports, testing, unstable)
1542[14:19:57] *** Quits: rohff_user_161 (~99_ident_@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1543[14:20:23] <bolt> diamvw: unless you have a specific reason to do otherwise, stable is what's stable.
1544[14:20:39] *** Joins: verboese (~verboese@replaced-ip)
1545[14:21:36] <Kitty> hi
1546[14:22:09] <Kitty> Do we have any indication of a time line for a debian package for a kernel with the KPTI fix?
1547[14:22:25] <diamvw> bolt: so it is recommended generally to use stable? A lot of users swear about testing.
1548[14:22:40] *** Joins: ch0wn_ (~tmp@replaced-ip)
1549[14:22:40] *** Joins: zapperoo (~ZaP@replaced-ip)
1550[14:22:53] <Kitty> Specifically 4.14.11
1551[14:22:57] <bolt> diamvw: unless you have a specific reason not to, use stable
1552[14:23:46] <SirLagz> Kitty: if you desperately need the fix, you could compile your own kernel in the meantime
1553[14:24:04] *** Joins: p8m (~p8m@replaced-ip)
1554[14:24:25] *** Quits: Rokixz (~rokas@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1555[14:24:34] *** Joins: nog3_ (~tud3@replaced-ip)
1556[14:24:49] *** Joins: Tranmi (~Tranmi@replaced-ip)
1557[14:24:55] *** Quits: nog3_ (~tud3@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
1558[14:24:59] <babilen> diamvw: I would *never* run testing alone and have stable+backports on my workstation (it needs to work) and testing+unstable (with testing as default release) on my laptop
1559[14:25:13] <babilen> Might switch that to unstable though
1560[14:25:32] <JustASlacker> replaced-url
1561[14:25:38] <babilen> replaced-url
1562[14:26:55] *** Quits: bsdnoob (~bsdnoob@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1563[14:27:21] *** Joins: bsdnoob (~bsdnoob@replaced-ip)
1564[14:27:28] <Kitty> SirLagz: I don't desperately need the fix, I'm just wondering if it will land before this weeks maintenance window, or if I should schedule it for next week
1565[14:27:31] <babilen> In particular apt-listbugs with s/grave/important is a life saver (and don't upgrade in the morning)
1566[14:27:39] <SirLagz> Kitty: ah k
1567[14:28:31] *** Quits: lvaz (~lvaz@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1568[14:28:46] <babilen> Kitty: Nobody knows right now -- It's (whatever it really is) is still in embargo and we don't know the exact ramifications. You can read a lot into the patches and the messages around it (in particular AMD's "lol, not us" patch), but we'll have to wait
1569[14:28:51] *** Joins: lvaz (~lvaz@replaced-ip)
1570[14:29:27] *** Quits: thiras (~thiras@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1571[14:29:27] <Kitty> babilen: yeah, 4.14.11 and 4.15 are supposed to have the fix
1572[14:29:29] <darxmurf> I'm running testing on my machines without problem, and for years now. Except once or twice a year where something remove half of XFCE packages ^^
1573[14:29:35] <SirLagz> At one point, Forcefully Unmap Complete Kernel With Interrupt Trampolines, aka FUCKWIT, was mulled by the Linux kernel team, giving you an idea of how annoying this has been for the developers. <== lol
1574[14:29:39] <babilen> It's a - well - interesting start into the new year and I don't cherish the thought of having to reboot most of our infra, but as of now I'm not aware of any concrete timelines for new packages (kernel, xen, ...)
1575[14:29:47] *** Quits: anirban (~anirban@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1576[14:30:22] <Kitty> SirLagz: My favourite comment there is: " A spokesperson for Intel was not available for comment. "
1577[14:30:47] <JustASlacker> also funny is the selling of stock by intel ceo
1578[14:30:49] <JustASlacker> replaced-url
1579[14:30:54] <JustASlacker> funky timing
1580[14:31:01] * JustASlacker loves spreading rumors
1581[14:31:06] <Kitty> and amd stock is up 7% so far today
1582[14:31:09] <SirLagz> insider trading much
1583[14:31:11] <babilen> SirLagz: replaced-url
1584[14:31:31] <babilen> I'd appreciate it if we could take the off-topic chat to #debian-offtopic though
1585[14:31:46] <Kitty> sorry
1586[14:31:49] *** Joins: maxzor_ (~maxzor@replaced-ip)
1587[14:31:53] *** Joins: MicroCheapFx (~quassel@replaced-ip)
1588[14:31:56] *** Quits: detectiveaoi (~detective@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving...)
1589[14:32:09] <babilen> No worries .. it is an interesting topic
1590[14:32:41] <SirLagz> indeed
1591[14:32:45] *** Quits: MicroCheapFx_ (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1592[14:32:47] *** Quits: mentor (~m@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1593[14:32:51] <SirLagz> I wasn't aware of the issue until Kitty brought it up
1594[14:33:05] *** Quits: maxzor (~maxzor@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1595[14:33:13] *** Quits: aaap (~aaap@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
1596[14:33:27] <JustASlacker> well, its not really official
1597[14:33:30] <JustASlacker> replaced-url
1598[14:33:37] <JustASlacker> lots of rumors floating around tho
1599[14:34:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1698
1600[14:34:04] *** Joins: dixie7z_ (~dixie7z@replaced-ip)
1601[14:34:22] *** Quits: Guest42834 (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1602[14:34:29] *** Joins: rcdilorenzo_ (~rcdiloren@replaced-ip)
1603[14:34:37] *** Joins: kzimmermann (~username@replaced-ip)
1604[14:35:25] *** Joins: Haudegen (~quassel@replaced-ip)
1605[14:36:33] *** Quits: glebihan (~glebihan@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1606[14:37:23] *** Quits: dixie7z (~dixie7z@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1607[14:37:24] *** Joins: Tom01 (~tom@replaced-ip)
1608[14:38:43] *** Quits: lvaz (~lvaz@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1609[14:39:08] *** Joins: lvaz (~lvaz@replaced-ip)
1610[14:40:33] *** Joins: anirban (~anirban@replaced-ip)
1611[14:41:00] *** Joins: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip)
1612[14:44:38] *** Quits: dutchfish (~wil@replaced-ip) (Quit: Splash, leaving the bowl)
1613[14:45:36] *** Joins: Sia- (~sia@replaced-ip)
1614[14:46:49] *** Quits: srtu_ (~hypnotoad@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1615[14:49:54] *** Quits: emdee (~noEmail@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1616[14:49:59] *** Joins: johnmidhun (6f5c0663@replaced-ip)
1617[14:50:03] *** Joins: glebihan (~glebihan@replaced-ip)
1618[14:50:34] *** Joins: fujisan (uid4207@replaced-ip)
1619[14:50:39] <johnmidhun> please help me replaced-url
1620[14:50:45] *** Joins: warai_otoko (~warai_oto@replaced-ip)
1621[14:50:51] *** Joins: rasb (~rasb@replaced-ip)
1622[14:51:39] *** Joins: Divergenz (~thisis@replaced-ip)
1623[14:52:43] *** Joins: LiuYan (~NiHola@replaced-ip)
1624[14:53:08] *** Joins: qba73 (~qba73@replaced-ip)
1625[14:53:24] *** Joins: nog3_ (~tud3@replaced-ip)
1626[14:53:35] *** Quits: nog3_ (~tud3@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
1627[14:53:49] <fujisan> guys
1628[14:54:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1708
1629[14:54:04] <fujisan> where is the offtopic?
1630[14:54:10] <b00kworm> johnmidhun: that's not how this works, that's not how any of this works
1631[14:54:23] <fujisan> b00kworm: which books do you recommend?
1632[14:54:26] <b00kworm> #debian-offtopic I guess
1633[14:54:30] <fujisan> ty
1634[14:54:36] <Divergenz> hey, i upgraded my wheezy to stretch and it failed. I can't connect over ssh. i'm logged in as root on KVM. replaced-url
1635[14:54:46] <themill> johnmidhun: if you installed something outside of apt, then apt does not know about it to be able to remove it
1636[14:54:49] *** Joins: LioneLL (~Pidgin@replaced-ip)
1637[14:54:51] <b00kworm> fujisan: ?
1638[14:55:18] <fujisan> according to your nick
1639[14:55:32] *** Quits: dynek (~dynek@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1640[14:55:49] *** Joins: heurist` (~heurist@replaced-ip)
1641[14:55:53] <b00kworm> lots 😄 but that's a tad offtopic for hear
1642[14:55:56] <b00kworm> here*
1643[14:56:08] *** Joins: alchemistswl (~alchemist@replaced-ip)
1644[14:56:08] <fujisan> in which channels are you?
1645[14:56:17] <fujisan> in #literature ?
1646[14:56:43] *** Joins: dynek (~dynek@replaced-ip)
1647[14:56:58] <b00kworm> mostly Linux related, no I don't like those kind of books discussed there... I am more into Fantasy stuff
1648[14:57:03] *** Quits: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1649[14:57:16] *** Joins: Smithe (~Smithe@replaced-ip)
1650[14:57:23] *** Joins: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip)
1651[14:58:25] *** Quits: lvaz (~lvaz@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1652[14:58:26] *** Quits: heurist (~heurist@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1653[14:58:35] *** Joins: lvaz (~lvaz@replaced-ip)
1654[14:59:59] <fujisan> oh okay
1655[15:00:03] <fujisan> LOTR
1656[15:00:05] <fujisan> etc
1657[15:00:25] <fujisan> i do like linux related stuff
1658[15:00:31] *** Quits: mzf (~fakhraee@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1659[15:00:31] <fujisan> it's interesting
1660[15:00:45] *** Quits: Sia- (~sia@replaced-ip) (Quit: ZZZzzz…)
1661[15:00:48] *** Quits: Neomex (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1662[15:01:03] *** Joins: nrx (~metax@replaced-ip)
1663[15:01:52] *** Joins: mzf (~fakhraee@replaced-ip)
1664[15:02:52] *** Joins: Neomex (~quassel@replaced-ip)
1665[15:03:04] *** Joins: Aussie_matt (~quassel@replaced-ip)
1666[15:03:05] *** Joins: hamersaw (~hamersaw@replaced-ip)
1667[15:03:35] *** Quits: PoaB (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Quit: PoaB)
1668[15:04:15] *** Quits: DerLG (~derlg@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1669[15:04:20] <RoyK> fujisan: what about this? ;) replaced-url
1670[15:04:32] <johnmidhun> themill: can you tell someother method to uninstall it
1671[15:04:35] *** Quits: NetTerminalGene (~NetTermin@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1672[15:05:05] <maxlatern[m]> anyone had an issue with terminal sessions disappearing or hidden somewhere cause its still running but i dont see it when i click on terminal to show all the terminals or super W
1673[15:05:29] <fujisan> cool thnx RoyK
1674[15:06:05] *** Quits: Aussie_matt (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1675[15:06:29] *** Joins: n4dir (~user@replaced-ip)
1676[15:06:33] *** Joins: bliv (~bliv@replaced-ip)
1677[15:07:15] *** Quits: baptist (~baptsk@replaced-ip) (Read error: No route to host)
1678[15:10:00] *** Quits: yareckonirc (~yareckoni@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
1679[15:10:11] <themill> johnmidhun: setup.py normally does not support uninstalling
1680[15:10:21] *** Joins: y-s (~fredrik@replaced-ip)
1681[15:10:47] *** Joins: Darcidride (~Darcidrid@replaced-ip)
1682[15:11:19] <JustASlacker> you can do python setup.py install --record files.txt
1683[15:11:26] <JustASlacker> and delete those files
1684[15:11:27] <JustASlacker> cat files.txt | xargs rm -rf
1685[15:11:43] <JustASlacker> replaced-url
1686[15:11:45] <themill> hoping of course that setup.py didn't randomly overwrite things
1687[15:12:23] *** Parts: friend_to_pandas (~user@replaced-ip) ("ERC (IRC client for Emacs 24.5.1)")
1688[15:12:39] *** Joins: Spr1ng (~Spr1ng@replaced-ip)
1689[15:14:08] <jelly> JustASlacker, I wouldn't do -r on a bunch of file paths without first making VERY sure they're safe
1690[15:14:11] *** mosab is now known as mos3abof
1691[15:15:08] *** Joins: Tom-_ (~tomg@replaced-ip)
1692[15:16:19] *** Joins: metxn (~metax@replaced-ip)
1693[15:16:24] *** Quits: nrx (~metax@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1694[15:16:44] *** Joins: OS-33388 (~OS-33388@replaced-ip)
1695[15:17:01] *** Quits: choon (~user@replaced-ip) (Quit: choon)
1696[15:17:35] *** Quits: citypw (~citypw@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1697[15:17:38] *** Joins: Aussie_matt (~quassel@replaced-ip)
1698[15:17:43] <jelly> ,v npm2deb
1699[15:17:44] *** Quits: arich (~adam.rich@176.24.60.148) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
1700[15:17:45] <judd> Package: npm2deb on amd64 -- jessie: 0.2.2-1; sid: 0.2.7-6
1701[15:17:54] <jelly> !why is npm2deb not in testing
1702[15:17:54] <dpkg> npm2deb is not in testing for the reasons listed in replaced-url
1703[15:19:06] *** Joins: NetTerminalGene (~NetTermin@replaced-ip)
1704[15:19:33] <JustASlacker> nah
1705[15:19:35] <JustASlacker> its fine
1706[15:19:46] <JustASlacker> just delete all the things
1707[15:20:03] *** Joins: azur_kind (~azur_kind@replaced-ip)
1708[15:20:37] *** Joins: Sia- (~sia@replaced-ip)
1709[15:21:37] *** Joins: Arkaniad (~Arkaniad@replaced-ip)
1710[15:22:07] *** Joins: smrcascao (c2412546@replaced-ip)
1711[15:22:09] *** Parts: diamvw (~kdiam@replaced-ip) ()
1712[15:22:15] *** Joins: yareckonirc (~yareckoni@replaced-ip)
1713[15:22:26] *** Parts: jeweet_ (~jeweet_@replaced-ip) ("Leaving")
1714[15:23:35] *** Quits: dave0x6d (uid190567@replaced-ip) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
1715[15:24:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1714
1716[15:24:05] *** Quits: sn0wmonster (~yeti@replaced-ip) (Quit: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)
1717[15:24:15] *** Joins: turfal (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
1718[15:25:15] *** Joins: jayarcs (~jayarcs@replaced-ip)
1719[15:27:04] *** Quits: Aussie_matt (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1720[15:28:08] *** Joins: zabow (~zabow@replaced-ip)
1721[15:28:13] *** Joins: ktchk (~eddie6929@replaced-ip)
1722[15:29:05] *** Quits: niko (~niko@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
1723[15:29:12] *** Joins: HeOS (~heos@replaced-ip)
1724[15:29:39] *** Joins: Aussie_matt (~quassel@replaced-ip)
1725[15:29:48] *** Joins: niko (~niko@replaced-ip)
1726[15:29:49] *** Joins: dethos (~dethos@replaced-ip)
1727[15:30:21] *** Joins: metts (~metts@replaced-ip)
1728[15:33:07] *** Quits: kaliima4 (~user@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1729[15:33:10] *** Quits: Sia- (~sia@replaced-ip) (Quit: ZZZzzz…)
1730[15:33:31] *** Joins: alchemistsw1 (~alchemist@replaced-ip)
1731[15:33:56] *** Quits: niko (~niko@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
1732[15:34:39] *** Quits: nic_ (~nic@replaced-ip) (Quit: buy amd high, sell low)
1733[15:36:39] *** Quits: HeOS (~heos@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1734[15:36:44] *** Quits: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1735[15:36:48] *** Quits: concerti (~concerti@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1736[15:36:55] *** Joins: paraxic (~paraxic@replaced-ip)
1737[15:37:01] *** Joins: niko (~niko@replaced-ip)
1738[15:37:12] *** Quits: kzimmermann (~username@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1739[15:37:44] *** Quits: alchemistswl (~alchemist@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1740[15:37:51] *** Quits: alchemistsw1 (~alchemist@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1741[15:38:13] *** Quits: phinxy (~ted@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
1742[15:38:38] *** Joins: alchemistswl (~alchemist@replaced-ip)
1743[15:41:00] *** Crypto is now known as Uberius
1744[15:41:22] *** Quits: Smithe (~Smithe@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1745[15:43:15] *** Joins: rohff_user_15 (~118_ident@replaced-ip)
1746[15:43:52] *** Joins: frostschutz (~frostschu@replaced-ip)
1747[15:44:08] *** Quits: JohnML (~john1@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1748[15:44:43] *** Joins: simpledat (~user@replaced-ip)
1749[15:44:49] *** Quits: anirban (~anirban@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1750[15:47:41] *** Joins: Cogitabundus (~NOBODY@replaced-ip)
1751[15:49:06] *** Quits: rekaf (~rekaf@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1752[15:49:24] *** Quits: Cogitabundus (~NOBODY@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1753[15:49:42] *** Joins: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip)
1754[15:50:20] *** Joins: jsubl2 (~jim@replaced-ip)
1755[15:50:50] *** Quits: craigp (~craigp@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1756[15:51:11] *** Quits: f4cl3y (~f4cl3y@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1757[15:51:17] *** Quits: yareckonirc (~yareckoni@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1758[15:52:20] *** Quits: rohff_user_15 (~118_ident@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1759[15:52:35] *** Joins: rohff_user_47 (~279_ident@replaced-ip)
1760[15:52:40] *** Joins: autofsckk (~autofsckk@replaced-ip)
1761[15:52:49] *** Parts: autofsckk (~autofsckk@replaced-ip) ()
1762[15:53:19] *** Joins: v4s (~v4s@replaced-ip)
1763[15:53:40] *** Quits: L3gacy (~L3gacy@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1764[15:54:03] *** Joins: concerti (~concerti@replaced-ip)
1765[15:55:24] *** Quits: lvaz (~lvaz@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1766[15:55:30] *** Joins: L3gacy (~L3gacy@replaced-ip)
1767[15:55:38] *** Joins: lvaz (~lvaz@replaced-ip)
1768[15:55:56] *** Quits: aruns__ (~indistylo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1769[15:59:20] *** Quits: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1770[16:00:08] *** Joins: bapophis_ (~belethapo@replaced-ip)
1771[16:00:40] *** Quits: qba73 (~qba73@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1772[16:00:47] *** Joins: ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@replaced-ip)
1773[16:02:20] <Trel> What's combination of links I need to click from debian.org to get to the firmware download and the iso with the firmware integrated? (I know how to find it from Google, but I'm trying to find the path there from the homepage)
1774[16:02:55] *** Quits: bapophis__ (~belethapo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1775[16:03:58] *** Joins: altin (~altin@replaced-ip)
1776[16:03:58] *** Quits: altin (~altin@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
1777[16:03:58] *** Joins: altin (~altin@replaced-ip)
1778[16:04:30] <SirLagz> Trel: homepage -> CD/USB ISO images -> Download CD/DVD images using HTTP -> amd64 -> Non-free Firmware
1779[16:04:31] *** Quits: Aussie_matt (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1780[16:04:36] *** Parts: lvaz (~lvaz@replaced-ip) ()
1781[16:04:58] *** Joins: qba73 (~qba73@replaced-ip)
1782[16:05:12] <Trel> SirLagz: thank you
1783[16:05:23] <SirLagz> Trel: out of curiosity, why do you want that?
1784[16:06:13] *** Parts: n4dir (~user@replaced-ip) ()
1785[16:08:38] <Trel> I keep a disc around of that to use when I need to install on an unknown laptop.
1786[16:08:45] *** Quits: zabow (~zabow@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1787[16:08:58] *** Quits: __marco (~marco@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
1788[16:08:59] <Trel> (And I like knowing how to get there in case I can't access google, or the link changes, and google's is not updated yet, etc)
1789[16:09:23] *** Joins: ioudasw (~ioudasw@replaced-ip)
1790[16:09:31] *** Quits: ioudas^working (~ioudasw@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1791[16:09:38] *** ioudasw is now known as ioudas^working
1792[16:09:51] *** Joins: tete_ (~John@replaced-ip)
1793[16:10:30] <tete_> hi, i get all the time a message from cron: subject: Cron <root@trustserv> root [ -x /usr/lib/php/sessionclean ] && if [ ! -d /run/systemd/system ]; then /usr/lib/php/sessionclean; fi; and the body: /bin/sh: 1: root: not found
1794[16:10:48] <tete_> i checked the /etc/cron.d/php which contained this line and i removed the "root" username, but its still sending me messages - also a restart of crond did not help
1795[16:11:03] <Divergenz> i upgraded wheezy to skretch but my system is broken. howto repair it? can someone tell me the best way to get any information howto start?
1796[16:11:18] <tete_> i also grep'd in /etc for sessionclean, there was only this one file in /etc/cron.d containing that call
1797[16:11:20] *** Joins: anirban (~anirban@replaced-ip)
1798[16:11:29] <tete_> Divergenz, it would be useful to tell the people _what_ exactly is broken
1799[16:11:38] <tete_> does it boot? is it an application which hangs? etc. etc.
1800[16:12:05] *** Quits: jsubl2 (~jim@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
1801[16:12:25] *** Joins: JackK (jack@replaced-ip)
1802[16:12:38] <somiaj> Divergenz: did you upgrade through jessie first?
1803[16:12:56] *** Joins: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip)
1804[16:13:10] *** Joins: emdee (~noEmail@replaced-ip)
1805[16:13:34] *** Quits: jfsCommit (~kdevtmpfs@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1806[16:13:35] <Divergenz> I can't connect to ssh and nginx isn't running. I logged as root in KVM and the system is running. apt-get update tells me that he can't fetch anything
1807[16:13:40] <Divergenz> somiaj: no.
1808[16:13:44] *** Joins: Rembo (Rembo@replaced-ip)
1809[16:14:02] <somiaj> Divergenz: backup and reinstall stretch. Upgrades are not designed to skip releases.
1810[16:14:42] <tete_> when apt tells u it cant fetch anything, what says ifconfig or "ip addr show" ?
1811[16:15:07] <tete_> whats the _exact_ error - its a bit annoying to ask people for their problem
1812[16:15:31] *** Quits: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1813[16:15:41] *** Joins: holden- (~holden-@replaced-ip)
1814[16:16:01] *** Joins: alexgr (~alexgr@replaced-ip)
1815[16:16:47] *** Quits: Antoninus (~Antoninus@replaced-ip) (Quit: Antoninus)
1816[16:17:09] <petn-randall> Divergenz: What somiaj said. You skipped jessie, you system is most likely broken.
1817[16:18:07] *** Joins: conta5 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
1818[16:18:25] *** Quits: jayarcs (~jayarcs@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1819[16:18:35] *** Joins: Antoninus (~Antoninus@replaced-ip)
1820[16:19:18] *** Joins: somepoortech (~somepoort@replaced-ip)
1821[16:19:27] *** Quits: Eryn_1983_FL (~Eryn_1983@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1822[16:19:33] *** Quits: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1823[16:19:33] *** conta5 is now known as conta
1824[16:19:34] *** Quits: darxmurf (~darxmurf@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1825[16:19:41] *** Quits: d-fence_ (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1826[16:20:17] <Divergenz> is it possible to repair it with netinstall?
1827[16:20:44] *** Joins: f4cl3y (~f4cl3y@replaced-ip)
1828[16:20:47] <Divergenz> or is there any command around which check the system and repair broken files?
1829[16:21:06] *** Joins: Tintle (genius@replaced-ip)
1830[16:21:35] *** Joins: owl_tech (~owl@replaced-ip)
1831[16:22:05] *** Joins: Vizva (~Vizva@replaced-ip)
1832[16:22:53] *** Quits: LioneLL (~Pidgin@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving.)
1833[16:23:15] *** Joins: mentor (~m@replaced-ip)
1834[16:23:27] *** Quits: anirban (~anirban@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1835[16:23:45] *** Quits: owl_tech (~owl@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
1836[16:23:56] *** Joins: thallada (~thallada@replaced-ip)
1837[16:24:10] <petn-randall> Divergenz: There isn't, that's why it's not supported.
1838[16:25:51] *** Joins: jfsCommit (~kdevtmpfs@replaced-ip)
1839[16:26:25] *** Quits: hammer065 (~hammer065@replaced-ip) (Quit: Restart the game...)
1840[16:26:37] <somiaj> Divergenz: Your system missed a whole release of upgrade scripts and transitions, on top of that the scripts run from stretch are designed for jessie, not wheezy. For stability and secuirty it is faster to backup/reinstall than try to fix it.
1841[16:26:55] *** Joins: zabow (~zabow@replaced-ip)
1842[16:27:22] <somiaj> and most likely you won't get every little thing.
1843[16:27:27] *** Quits: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1844[16:27:28] *** Joins: cdown_ (~cdown@replaced-ip)
1845[16:27:35] *** cdown_ is now known as cdown
1846[16:28:56] *** Joins: owl_tech (~owl@replaced-ip)
1847[16:28:57] *** Joins: witch (~witch@replaced-ip)
1848[16:29:00] *** Joins: d-fence_ (~quassel@replaced-ip)
1849[16:29:15] *** Joins: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip)
1850[16:29:21] *** witch is now known as Guest49570
1851[16:29:34] *** Joins: lasdam (~lasdam@replaced-ip)
1852[16:29:40] *** Joins: JohnML (~john1@replaced-ip)
1853[16:29:49] *** Guest49570 is now known as pekkalla
1854[16:30:04] *** Joins: hammer065 (~hammer065@replaced-ip)
1855[16:30:24] *** Joins: rkta (~kt@replaced-ip)
1856[16:31:45] *** Quits: overlord_tm (~andraz@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1857[16:32:10] *** Joins: dvs (~gilford@replaced-ip)
1858[16:32:17] *** Joins: rawmat (~cris@replaced-ip)
1859[16:32:26] <tete_> no one an idea with my cron problem?
1860[16:32:42] *** Joins: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
1861[16:33:03] *** Quits: JohnML (~john1@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1862[16:33:06] *** Quits: rawmat (~cris@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
1863[16:33:21] *** Joins: JohnML (~john1@replaced-ip)
1864[16:33:41] <somiaj> tete_: did you check user crontabs in /var/spool/cron/crontabs
1865[16:33:45] *** Joins: Eryn_1983_FL (~Eryn_1983@replaced-ip)
1866[16:34:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1724
1867[16:34:33] *** Quits: ikevin (~kevin@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1868[16:34:54] <tete_> somiaj, perfect, thats it, but the first line says: do not edit this file - should i ignore that?
1869[16:35:12] *** Joins: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip)
1870[16:35:21] *** Quits: rohff_user_47 (~279_ident@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1871[16:35:23] <somiaj> tete_: or use crontab to edit it as the appropraite user
1872[16:35:37] *** Joins: shellclear_ (~shellclea@replaced-ip)
1873[16:36:06] <tete_> thanks, crontab -e made it
1874[16:36:30] *** Quits: Aphotica (~aphotica@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1875[16:36:31] *** Quits: dvs (~gilford@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
1876[16:36:32] <tete_> i am a bit confused because i thought crond is looking for /etc/cron.* and executes them, and not in /var/spool - but thanks :)
1877[16:36:39] *** Joins: rohff_user_146 (~261_ident@replaced-ip)
1878[16:36:58] <somiaj> tete_: system cron jobs vs user.
1879[16:37:27] <tete_> ah ok, thanks :)
1880[16:37:29] <somiaj> tete_: many php guides don't assume the user has root privlages, but normal users can make their own cron jobs that run with their user privlages
1881[16:37:55] *** Joins: Jkessler (~jack@replaced-ip)
1882[16:37:56] *** Quits: f4cl3y (~f4cl3y@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1883[16:38:04] *** Joins: jayarcs (~jayarcs@replaced-ip)
1884[16:38:15] *** Quits: JackK (jack@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1885[16:38:24] *** Quits: t0aster0ven (~iaeofjgsk@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1886[16:38:44] *** Quits: smrcascao (c2412546@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1887[16:38:59] *** Quits: Namarrgon (~glei@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)
1888[16:39:07] *** Quits: schu-r (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Quit: schu-r)
1889[16:39:24] *** Joins: t0aster0ven (~iaeofjgsk@replaced-ip)
1890[16:41:15] *** Quits: Eryn_1983_FL (~Eryn_1983@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1891[16:41:20] *** Joins: Namarrgon (~Namarrgon@replaced-ip)
1892[16:41:33] *** Joins: RadioManI (~RocknessA@replaced-ip)
1893[16:41:49] *** Quits: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1894[16:41:57] *** Quits: raynold (uid201163@replaced-ip) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
1895[16:43:27] *** Quits: winem_ (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1896[16:43:37] *** Quits: simpledat (~user@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
1897[16:43:54] *** Joins: gnuvegan (~gnuvegan@replaced-ip)
1898[16:44:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1718
1899[16:44:33] *** Joins: ikevin (~kevin@replaced-ip)
1900[16:45:01] *** Joins: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip)
1901[16:45:16] *** Joins: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip)
1902[16:45:42] *** Quits: mtn (~mtn@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
1903[16:46:07] <somepoortech> What apt source should I be using to get wheezy (security)?
1904[16:46:49] <somiaj> somepoortech: add a deb-src line for the wheezy secruirty repo.
1905[16:47:29] *** Joins: kculpis (~kculpic@replaced-ip)
1906[16:47:31] *** Joins: Kristjan (~Krisostoo@replaced-ip)
1907[16:47:38] <babilen> dpkg: wheezy sources.list
1908[16:47:39] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 7 "Wheezy" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
1909[16:47:47] *** Quits: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ##replaced-url
1910[16:47:56] <babilen> ah .. s/httpredir/deb/g
1911[16:48:07] *** Quits: Kristjan (~Krisostoo@replaced-ip) (Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.)))
1912[16:48:10] *** Quits: alad (~alad@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
1913[16:48:34] <somepoortech> I already have the standard apt sources, my issue is with not getting patches for CVE-2017-3137 - replaced-url
1914[16:49:50] *** Quits: tete_ (~John@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1915[16:49:50] *** Quits: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1916[16:49:52] *** Quits: lasdam (~lasdam@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
1917[16:49:52] <owl_tech> hi there people. looking for a online radio that talk about gnu/linux and tech general...do you know any project about this?
1918[16:50:00] <somiaj> somepoortech: want to share your sources.list? what is the output of 'apt-cache policy bind9'
1919[16:50:49] *** Joins: DerLG (~derlg@replaced-ip)
1920[16:51:15] <babilen> → replaced-url
1921[16:51:16] *** Joins: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip)
1922[16:51:31] *** Quits: user03 (~user03@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1923[16:52:12] <somepoortech> somiaj: sure, thanks - replaced-url
1924[16:52:24] *** Joins: milot (uid273026@replaced-ip)
1925[16:52:57] *** Joins: diniwed (~gavron@replaced-ip)
1926[16:53:21] <babilen> 1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2+deb7u18 is the one you have
1927[16:53:32] <babilen> 1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2+deb7u18 is the one that's fixed
1928[16:53:57] *** Quits: altin (~altin@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1929[16:54:04] <babilen> (they are the same)
1930[16:54:05] *** Quits: Elirips (~Elirips@replaced-ip##) (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium ##replaced-url
1931[16:54:32] *** Joins: ChmEarl (~chmearl@replaced-ip)
1932[16:54:38] *** Quits: shellclear_ (~shellclea@replaced-ip) (Quit: shellclear_)
1933[16:55:03] *** Joins: sativouf (~sativouf@replaced-ip)
1934[16:55:21] *** Joins: _0bitcount (~Big_Byte@replaced-ip)
1935[16:55:28] *** Joins: Eryn_1983_FL (~Eryn_1983@replaced-ip)
1936[16:55:54] <numbdewd> found an ancient pic on an old box I thought Id bring back not having seen it in ages. I used image-to-ascii service on it.... replaced-url
1937[16:56:09] <somepoortech> I guess that means I need to file a bug?? I have an assertion crash
1938[16:56:36] <babilen> somepoortech: Could you elaborate on the actual problem you are trying to fix?
1939[16:56:46] <numbdewd> wondering if thats noticable for some correlation besides the sexual suggestions it may be implying.. , or if better just use the pic..
1940[16:56:54] *** Joins: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
1941[16:57:12] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o babilen
1942[16:57:13] *** babilen sets mode: +q *!*@81.177.22.248
1943[16:57:13] *** babilen sets mode: -o babilen
1944[16:57:18] <babilen> numbdewd: Play elsewhere, thanks
1945[16:57:22] *** Joins: bins (~bins@replaced-ip)
1946[16:57:23] <somepoortech> replaced-url
1947[16:57:30] *** Quits: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1948[16:57:31] *** Quits: bins (~bins@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1949[16:57:55] <babilen> somepoortech: And that's related to CVE-2017-3137 how?
1950[16:58:18] *** Quits: dec0n (~dec0n@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1951[16:59:11] *** Joins: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip)
1952[16:59:14] *** Quits: Haohmaru (~Haohmaru@replaced-ip) ()
1953[16:59:52] <somepoortech> babilen: actually looks like I looked at the wrong thing.... replaced-url
1954[17:00:11] *** Quits: qba73 (~qba73@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1955[17:00:37] *** Joins: walnut_burl (~oak@replaced-ip)
1956[17:00:48] <babilen> How so?
1957[17:01:40] <somepoortech> his error matched mine and I lost a 9 and got a 7 when I was searching cve's
1958[17:01:49] *** Joins: multi_io_ (~olaf@replaced-ip)
1959[17:01:54] *** Joins: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip)
1960[17:02:09] *** Joins: Edu4rdSHL (~Edward@replaced-ip)
1961[17:02:43] <babilen> replaced-url
1962[17:03:27] *** Quits: rohff_user_146 (~261_ident@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1963[17:03:44] *** Joins: rohff_user_159 (~296_ident@replaced-ip)
1964[17:03:58] *** Quits: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1965[17:03:59] <somepoortech> ok, well I still have an assertion crash. Where should I report that
1966[17:04:24] *** Quits: catsup (d@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1967[17:04:27] *** Quits: multi_io (~olaf@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1968[17:05:02] *** Quits: xormor (~xormor@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
1969[17:05:04] *** Joins: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip)
1970[17:06:10] *** Joins: eMaks (~eMaks@replaced-ip)
1971[17:06:12] *** Joins: altin (~altin@replaced-ip)
1972[17:06:12] *** Quits: altin (~altin@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
1973[17:06:12] *** Joins: altin (~altin@replaced-ip)
1974[17:06:30] *** Quits: mentor (~m@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1975[17:07:05] *** Quits: DerLG (~derlg@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1976[17:09:08] *** Joins: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip)
1977[17:09:19] *** Joins: mentor (~m@replaced-ip)
1978[17:09:19] *** Quits: mentor (~m@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
1979[17:09:19] *** Joins: mentor (~m@replaced-ip)
1980[17:11:31] *** Quits: JustASlacker (~JustASlac@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1981[17:12:19] *** Quits: gryffus (~gryffus@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
1982[17:12:47] *** Quits: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1983[17:13:06] <babilen> somepoortech: I guess "reportbug bind9" would be a start
1984[17:13:17] *** Joins: _Sm00th_ (~sssmoothy@replaced-ip)
1985[17:13:26] *** Joins: Noldorin (~noldorin@replaced-ip)
1986[17:13:49] <babilen> You might want to run "reportbug --configure" beforehand and configure it to use Debian's SMTP servers for submission by not configuring servers explicitly
1987[17:14:05] *** Joins: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip)
1988[17:14:07] *** Joins: schu-r (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
1989[17:14:09] <babilen> (i.e. "smtphost reportbug.debian.org" in ~/.reportbugrc)
1990[17:14:12] *** Quits: schu-r (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
1991[17:14:14] *** Joins: Tarrasquero (~Tarrasque@replaced-ip)
1992[17:14:44] *** Joins: electro33 (uid613@replaced-ip)
1993[17:17:20] *** Joins: pedrodc (~pedrodaco@replaced-ip)
1994[17:17:22] *** Joins: pedrodc_777 (~pedrodaco@replaced-ip)
1995[17:17:28] *** Quits: pedrodc_777 (~pedrodaco@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
1996[17:17:45] *** Quits: mentor (~m@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1997[17:20:01] *** Joins: Ltem (~ltem@replaced-ip)
1998[17:20:59] *** Joins: baptist (~baptsk@replaced-ip)
1999[17:21:07] *** Joins: nighty-- (~nighty@replaced-ip)
2000[17:21:12] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2001[17:22:30] *** Joins: Sia- (~sia@replaced-ip)
2002[17:22:32] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip)
2003[17:23:38] *** Quits: baptist (~baptsk@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2004[17:24:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1726
2005[17:24:43] *** Quits: mos3abof (~mosab@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2006[17:25:27] *** Quits: nighty-- (~nighty@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2007[17:25:50] *** Joins: l3archos (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
2008[17:25:54] *** Quits: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Quit: conta)
2009[17:26:11] *** Joins: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
2010[17:26:32] *** Quits: l3archos (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2011[17:26:40] *** Joins: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip)
2012[17:28:17] *** Joins: smrcascao (c2412543@replaced-ip)
2013[17:28:44] *** Quits: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2014[17:29:32] *** Quits: fujisan (uid4207@replaced-ip) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
2015[17:29:58] *** Joins: catsup (d@replaced-ip)
2016[17:30:25] *** Quits: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2017[17:30:28] *** Joins: polaris (~polaris_@replaced-ip)
2018[17:32:38] *** Quits: TomyWork (~tomy@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2019[17:32:52] *** Joins: shellclear_ (~shellclea@replaced-ip)
2020[17:33:21] *** Quits: smrcascao (c2412543@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2021[17:33:36] *** Joins: smrcascao (c2412543@replaced-ip)
2022[17:33:45] *** Joins: nic_ (~nic@replaced-ip)
2023[17:34:03] *** Joins: kpease (~kpease@replaced-ip)
2024[17:34:11] *** Quits: smrcascao (c2412543@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2025[17:34:15] *** Joins: CapsAdmin (~CapsAdmin@replaced-ip)
2026[17:34:19] *** Quits: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2027[17:34:30] *** Joins: smrcascao (c2412543@replaced-ip)
2028[17:34:46] *** Quits: Pjusur (~Pjusur@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2029[17:34:56] <linuxthefish> hey, I did apt-get install mysql-server on debian 9.2, but it installed mariadb and didn't ask for a password!
2030[17:35:23] *** Quits: zamuro (~Samantha@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2031[17:35:35] <annadane> linuxthefish, mariadb replaces mysql in debian 9
2032[17:35:43] <linuxthefish> I used mysql-secure-installation to set one, yet when I try to use phpmyadmin it doesn't allow me, and when I use "mysql -p" then enter my password, it tells me "ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MariaDB server version for the right syntax to use near 'USER 'root'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'MyNewPass'' at line 1"
2033[17:36:14] <petn-randall> linuxthefish: I guess mysql-secure-installation broke your installation then.
2034[17:36:52] *** Quits: Sia- (~sia@replaced-ip) (Quit: ZZZzzz…)
2035[17:37:25] *** Joins: Nnnavd (~Nnavd@replaced-ip)
2036[17:37:35] <FinalX> sounds like your phpMyAdmin is incompatible with the current version of the MySQL language
2037[17:37:39] *** Quits: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip) (Quit: quit)
2038[17:37:43] *** Joins: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip)
2039[17:38:02] *** Joins: nighty-- (~nighty@replaced-ip)
2040[17:38:18] <FinalX> ignore; if it's also the base mysql command line client..
2041[17:38:29] <linuxthefish> strange, it's phpMyAdmin-4.7.7 the latest :/
2042[17:38:50] <FinalX> no, ignore my comment, it's like petn-randall said
2043[17:39:00] <petn-randall> ,v phpmyadmin
2044[17:39:01] <judd> Package: phpmyadmin on amd64 -- wheezy: 4:3.4.11.1-2+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 4:3.4.11.1-2+deb7u8; jessie: 4:4.2.12-2+deb8u2; jessie-security: 4:4.2.12-2+deb8u2; stretch: 4:4.6.6-4; buster: 4:4.6.6-5; sid: 4:4.6.6-5
2045[17:39:12] <petn-randall> linuxthefish: That's not the one coming with Debian.
2046[17:39:27] <linuxthefish> I installed from their website, I'm using lighttpd for a webserver
2047[17:39:33] <FinalX> good, then we know for certain it's up to date
2048[17:39:57] <FinalX> he said it's also with the default client, so it's not phpmyadmin :)
2049[17:40:33] *** Quits: rkta (~kt@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2050[17:41:00] *** Joins: kion (~kion@replaced-ip)
2051[17:41:38] *** Quits: CapsAdmin (~CapsAdmin@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2052[17:41:50] <linuxthefish> I tried the phpmyadmin package and selected the webserver as lighttpd (i installed from repo), but it gives "dpkg: error processing package phpmyadmin (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2" and doesn't install
2053[17:42:05] <linuxthefish> i think i'll just go back to debian 7 if it's bugged ;/
2054[17:42:15] <FinalX> mysql_secure_installation works fine for me when I try it
2055[17:42:18] *** Joins: towo` (~towo@replaced-ip)
2056[17:42:35] *** Quits: Ryushin (chris@replaced-ip) (Quit: Client exiting)
2057[17:42:39] *** Joins: zeits0fa (~zeitsofa@replaced-ip)
2058[17:42:48] <FinalX> linuxthefish: you said mysql -p it fails. I think you have mixed packages of mysql and mariadb installed.
2059[17:43:02] <FinalX> linuxthefish: different library versions, even. that'll give a big crapup like this.
2060[17:43:05] *** Joins: CapsAdmin (~CapsAdmin@replaced-ip)
2061[17:43:16] <linuxthefish> strange, I just did "apt-get install mysql-server" and it's a new install of debian
2062[17:43:20] *** Joins: rootkea (~rootkea@replaced-ip)
2063[17:43:31] <NetTerminalGene> will debian patch latest intel vulnerability? but it has %30 performance hit. so will it me optional update?
2064[17:43:36] *** Quits: jsdk (~jsdk@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving.)
2065[17:43:42] <FinalX> linuxthefish: dpkg -l | egrep '(mysql|mariadb)'
2066[17:43:45] <NetTerminalGene> be*
2067[17:43:48] <FinalX> linuxthefish: apt-cache policy mysql-server
2068[17:44:10] <petn-randall> NetTerminalGene: There's no CVE or scope about it yet, so best thing for now is to wait until the DSA comes out.
2069[17:44:40] <NetTerminalGene> i hope it will be optionsl
2070[17:44:45] <FinalX> (there is no mysql-server in stretch, it's a meta package that depends on default-mysql-server, and default-mysql-server depends on mariadb-server-10.1)
2071[17:44:48] *** Quits: CapsAdmin (~CapsAdmin@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2072[17:44:54] <petn-randall> !bat
2073[17:44:55] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
2074[17:45:07] *** Joins: rpd_ (~rpd@replaced-ip)
2075[17:45:07] <petn-randall> linuxthefish: Can you provide *all* of the above regarding your installation error?
2076[17:45:17] *** Quits: zeitsofa (~zeitsofa@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2077[17:45:19] <linuxthefish> ok hold on
2078[17:45:26] *** Joins: LioneLL (~Pidgin@replaced-ip)
2079[17:45:38] <petn-randall> Preferably in a single paste on replaced-url
2080[17:45:55] *** Joins: nick20 (~nick20@replaced-ip)
2081[17:46:10] <FinalX> NetTerminalGene: the Intel vulnerability work-around patches in the kernel are being worked on (for months already) by the official Linux Kernel devs. Security updates that were already completed are released through the security channel. Once all last fixes are in, I'm pretty sure it'll follow quickly.
2082[17:46:16] *** Quits: OS-33388 (~OS-33388@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
2083[17:46:22] <linuxthefish> replaced-url
2084[17:46:40] *** Joins: sofazeit (~zeitsofa@replaced-ip)
2085[17:46:53] <NetTerminalGene> FinalX, but it causes performance hit. i want it to be optional
2086[17:47:00] *** Quits: rpd_ (~rpd@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2087[17:47:00] *** Joins: CapsAdmin (~CapsAdmin@replaced-ip)
2088[17:47:13] <petn-randall> linuxthefish: Read the factoid again please, you're missing most of it.
2089[17:47:17] *** Quits: thunderrd (~thunderrd@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2090[17:47:21] <linuxthefish> running "man mysql" says "mysql - the MariaDB command-line tool", so it is the mariadb version
2091[17:47:48] *** Joins: OS-33388 (~OS-33388@replaced-ip)
2092[17:47:49] <linuxthefish> petn-randall but mysql installed fine, and I think I closed the window then it installed
2093[17:47:53] <linuxthefish> should I reinstall it?
2094[17:47:59] <linuxthefish> mysql-server*
2095[17:48:15] *** Joins: thunderrd (~thunderrd@replaced-ip)
2096[17:48:21] <petn-randall> linuxthefish: I thought phpmyadmin failed with "dpkg: error processing package phpmyadmin (--configure): ...."
2097[17:48:41] <linuxthefish> yes, but it still installed with lighttpd and I can access it on the web, just not log in
2098[17:48:47] *** Quits: Haudegen (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2099[17:49:02] *** Joins: zarzar (~zarzar@replaced-ip)
2100[17:49:15] <petn-randall> linuxthefish: Yeah, but I think that error is important to your problem.
2101[17:49:17] <FinalX> NetTerminalGene: Debian's kernel will get whatever the Linux kernel gives. There's already a working PoC that can poll 2-bytes at a time from the CPU cache, you really want it on. That being said, as you can forcibly enable it for AMD CPU's (off by default), I'm sure you can also forcibly disable it for non-AMD CPU's.
2102[17:49:29] <petn-randall> linuxthefish: You might be able to trigger it again by running 'dpkg --configure -a'.
2103[17:49:41] *** Quits: zeits0fa (~zeitsofa@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2104[17:49:42] <FinalX> Also, you can blame Intel for it, not Debian, and not the Linux kernel dev team.. :)
2105[17:50:46] *** Joins: Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@replaced-ip)
2106[17:51:04] <NetTerminalGene> i only blame intel
2107[17:51:11] <linuxthefish> replaced-url
2108[17:51:12] *** Joins: jhutchins_wk (~jonathan@replaced-ip)
2109[17:51:43] <linuxthefish> I've installed mysql-server/lighttpd/phpmyadmin loads of times before on debian 7, and it always worked then :/
2110[17:52:02] <petn-randall> linuxthefish: Great. Can you now also provide 2) from the factoid? Then we got it all together.
2111[17:52:19] *** Joins: Smithe (~Smithe@replaced-ip)
2112[17:52:46] <FinalX> the error you pasted really seems like an outdated client connecting with a new version with changed syntax or vice versa, but your packages don't show that
2113[17:53:32] <linuxthefish> petn-randall replaced-url
2114[17:53:32] *** Quits: nick20 (~nick20@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2115[17:53:47] <FinalX> I'd wonder if it's table corruption, but it can't really be with that error. Your phpMyAdmin version is more than recent enough, as is your php7.0-mysql package (which is irrelevant because your cli is also failing, not just php?)
2116[17:53:47] <petn-randall> linuxthefish: 2+3 I mean, sorry.
2117[17:54:44] *** Joins: dekatch (~dekatch@replaced-ip)
2118[17:54:57] *** Quits: Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2119[17:55:40] *** Quits: dekatch (~dekatch@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2120[17:55:40] <linuxthefish> petn-randall is number 3 sorry replaced-url
2121[17:55:57] *** Quits: cadeskywalker (~madoka@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2122[17:56:09] *** Quits: rohff_user_159 (~296_ident@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2123[17:56:19] *** Joins: dekatch (~dekatch@replaced-ip)
2124[17:56:20] *** Joins: dek_ (~dekatch@replaced-ip)
2125[17:56:20] *** Joins: nick20 (~nick20@replaced-ip)
2126[17:56:40] *** Quits: pekkalla (~witch@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2127[17:57:51] *** Quits: CapsAdmin (~CapsAdmin@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2128[17:58:12] <maxlatern[m]> any word on the patches being released fo that intel memory leak
2129[17:59:09] *** Joins: CapsAdmin (~CapsAdmin@replaced-ip)
2130[17:59:41] <petn-randall> maxlatern[m]: It's not a memory leak.
2131[18:00:12] *** Quits: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2132[18:00:32] *** Joins: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip)
2133[18:00:45] <maxlatern[m]> well i have about 20+ articles that say memory leak but they could be wrong.. do you know when its supposed to be fixed
2134[18:01:11] <petn-randall> maxlatern[m]: There'll likely be a DSA in the next few days.
2135[18:01:52] <petn-randall> maxlatern[m]: Since it's embargoed there's not much we can say about the impact, scope or severity.
2136[18:01:53] <maxlatern[m]> DSA being a kernel update?
2137[18:02:05] <babilen> Debian Security Advisory
2138[18:02:14] <babilen> I'm sure there'll be CVEs to go along with it
2139[18:02:19] *** Joins: EljayFlintok (~EljayFlin@replaced-ip)
2140[18:02:22] <maxlatern[m]> i know its under wraps right now
2141[18:02:25] <maxlatern[m]> which is good until they fix it lol
2142[18:02:27] *** Quits: OS-33388 (~OS-33388@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2143[18:02:31] <babilen> At the moment we can but read speculations, embargo lists and wait ...
2144[18:02:34] <maxlatern[m]> cool thanks
2145[18:02:47] * petn-randall wonders why people only care about security bugs that hit the mainstream news.
2146[18:03:07] <shtrb> because we simply not aware of them ?
2147[18:03:22] <babilen> They should have gone with FUCKWIT :)
2148[18:03:23] <RoyK> probably
2149[18:03:35] <maxlatern[m]> maybe cause they usually means its pretty bad
2150[18:03:36] <babilen> Anymow .. → #d-ot
2151[18:03:44] *** Quits: bsdnoob (~bsdnoob@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2152[18:03:45] <maxlatern[m]> that
2153[18:04:05] *** Quits: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2154[18:04:07] *** Quits: Edu4rdSHL (~Edward@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)
2155[18:04:10] *** Joins: navlys (~smuxi@replaced-ip)
2156[18:04:12] <shtrb> babilen would it even pass the firewall rules put by the editors /
2157[18:04:30] *** Quits: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2158[18:04:49] *** Joins: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip)
2159[18:04:58] <maxlatern[m]> from what i read of some stuff that was leaked this bug looked pretty nasty lol
2160[18:05:46] *** Quits: ktchk (~eddie6929@replaced-ip) (Quit: ktchk)
2161[18:05:53] *** Joins: baloona (~baloona@replaced-ip)
2162[18:05:53] *** Joins: raalso (~raalso@replaced-ip)
2163[18:06:08] <petn-randall> babilen: Heh :D
2164[18:06:19] *** Parts: raalso (~raalso@replaced-ip) ()
2165[18:06:19] *** Quits: chele (~chele@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2166[18:06:36] <petn-randall> maxlatern[m]: Not really, but we can continue this on #debian-offtopic.
2167[18:06:50] *** Quits: altin (~altin@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2168[18:07:48] *** Joins: digitalnomad91 (~digitalno@replaced-ip)
2169[18:07:55] *** Quits: ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
2170[18:08:16] *** Joins: ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@replaced-ip)
2171[18:08:58] *** Joins: cadeskywalker (~madoka@replaced-ip)
2172[18:09:05] *** Quits: jayarcs (~jayarcs@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2173[18:09:27] *** Quits: CapsAdmin (~CapsAdmin@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2174[18:10:04] *** Joins: WinXPforever (rep@replaced-ip)
2175[18:10:46] *** Joins: CapsAdmin (~CapsAdmin@replaced-ip)
2176[18:10:48] *** Joins: gonegirl (~gonegirl@replaced-ip)
2177[18:11:20] *** Quits: flux242 (~chatzilla@replaced-ip) (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 56.0/20171003222101])
2178[18:11:29] *** Quits: CapsAdmin (~CapsAdmin@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2179[18:11:42] <WinXPforever> Is there a reason why information for adding sources to sources.list is buried in the Administration Guide and not easily available in the FAQ or installation guide?
2180[18:11:53] <WinXPforever> It seems like the most important thing to know
2181[18:12:28] *** Quits: gonegirl (~gonegirl@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2182[18:13:11] *** Quits: wzyy2 (~wzyy2@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2183[18:13:23] <jhutchins_wk> WinXPforever: It's in the basic install instructions, it's not like Ubuntu where you're adding PPAs all the time.
2184[18:13:53] <jhutchins_wk> WinXPforever: Any decent repository should have instructions on how to add it, but you want to be very circumspect about adding third party repos.
2185[18:13:55] *** Quits: Vizva (~Vizva@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2186[18:14:00] *** Quits: smrcascao (c2412543@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2187[18:14:09] *** Quits: enki (~enki@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2188[18:14:20] <WinXPforever> jhutchins_wk, all I have is the CD media and security.debian.org
2189[18:14:27] *** Quits: bapophis_ (~belethapo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2190[18:14:31] *** Joins: Vizva (~Vizva@replaced-ip)
2191[18:14:32] *** Joins: bapophis__ (~belethapo@replaced-ip)
2192[18:14:48] *** Joins: enki (~enki@replaced-ip)
2193[18:15:03] *** Quits: LorD_n1c0w (~igor@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2194[18:16:29] <jelly> !stretch sources.list
2195[18:16:29] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
2196[18:16:46] <jelly> WinXPforever, yeah that happens sometimes, it's a bug
2197[18:17:49] <WinXPforever> ok thank you
2198[18:18:46] *** Quits: Emmanuel_Chanel (~emmanuel@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2199[18:22:28] *** Quits: Gaaab (~Gaaab@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2200[18:22:58] *** Joins: LorD_n1c0w (~igor@replaced-ip)
2201[18:23:31] *** Quits: BWMerlin (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2202[18:23:47] *** Joins: LtL (~ltl@replaced-ip)
2203[18:23:53] <kion> si vamos
2204[18:24:04] <kion> sorry wrong window
2205[18:24:24] *** Joins: patterson (~patterson@replaced-ip)
2206[18:24:50] *** Joins: aruns__ (~indistylo@replaced-ip)
2207[18:27:21] *** Joins: juboxi (~juboxi@replaced-ip)
2208[18:27:27] *** Quits: inaki (~inaki@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2209[18:28:02] *** Quits: ARSR (~arsr@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2210[18:28:14] *** Joins: Haudegen (~quassel@replaced-ip)
2211[18:28:31] *** Quits: towo` (~towo@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2212[18:28:47] *** Quits: super_gollum (~ich@replaced-ip) (Quit: Ex-Chat)
2213[18:28:55] *** Quits: turfal (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Quit: turfal)
2214[18:29:11] <shtrb> jelly, shouldn't there be a debug source already ?
2215[18:30:26] <jelly> debug source for what, sorry?
2216[18:30:37] *** Joins: jason972000__ (c6b15f81@replaced-ip)
2217[18:31:20] *** Quits: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2218[18:32:08] *** Quits: sikun (~David@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2219[18:32:20] *** Quits: JustStephIt (~JustSteph@replaced-ip##) (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium ##replaced-url
2220[18:33:04] *** Quits: dekatch (~dekatch@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2221[18:33:04] *** Quits: dek_ (~dekatch@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2222[18:33:35] *** Joins: silverhom (~silverhom@replaced-ip)
2223[18:33:42] *** Joins: Nh3xus (~Nh3xus@replaced-ip)
2224[18:34:00] *** Quits: hamersaw (~hamersaw@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
2225[18:34:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1717
2226[18:35:32] *** Quits: Adbray (~Adbray@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2227[18:35:45] *** Joins: Adbray (~Adbray@replaced-ip)
2228[18:35:50] *** Joins: Gaaab (~Gaaab@replaced-ip)
2229[18:36:11] *** Quits: ongolaBoy (~ongolaBoy@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
2230[18:36:49] *** Joins: aielima (~aielima@replaced-ip)
2231[18:36:52] *** Joins: ongolaBoy (~ongolaBoy@replaced-ip)
2232[18:37:45] *** Quits: mzf (~fakhraee@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2233[18:38:22] *** Quits: ongolaBoy (~ongolaBoy@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2234[18:38:36] *** Quits: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Quit: nix64bit)
2235[18:38:49] *** Quits: ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
2236[18:39:02] *** Joins: mzf (~fakhraee@replaced-ip)
2237[18:39:11] *** juboxi is now known as jubo2
2238[18:39:19] *** Joins: ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@replaced-ip)
2239[18:39:46] *** Quits: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2240[18:40:01] *** Quits: ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2241[18:41:01] *** Joins: ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@replaced-ip)
2242[18:41:41] *** Quits: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2243[18:42:33] *** Joins: m1n3 (a161d3d7@replaced-ip)
2244[18:42:33] *** Quits: ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2245[18:43:21] *** Joins: ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@replaced-ip)
2246[18:43:30] <m1n3> Hey yall, im wondering how to open an app over ssh with xforwarding enabled, but not show it on the remote machine but rather the localhost. I can already open it remotely, but how to locally as well?
2247[18:43:41] *** Joins: towo` (~towo@replaced-ip)
2248[18:44:08] *** Jkessler is now known as JackK
2249[18:44:10] <hicks_> usually you do DISPLAY=:0.0 name_of_app
2250[18:44:33] <hicks_> if by local machine you mean the machine you are sshing from, not into.
2251[18:44:40] <m1n3> into
2252[18:45:25] <m1n3> i have DISPLAY=10.0 as my machine with ssh client running but I want it to open on the ssh server
2253[18:45:33] *** Joins: allizom (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
2254[18:45:56] *** Quits: allizom (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2255[18:46:17] <m1n3> with 0.0 I get a cannot open display :(
2256[18:46:28] <hicks_> try DISPLAY=:0
2257[18:46:44] <m1n3> INDEED!
2258[18:46:46] <m1n3> Thank you
2259[18:48:25] *** Quits: LucaTM (~LucaTM@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2260[18:49:45] *** Quits: uNmowed (~Mayu@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2261[18:49:46] *** Joins: Kopfstein (~B@replaced-ip)
2262[18:49:57] *** Quits: nathamanath (~nathamana@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2263[18:50:03] *** Quits: patterson (~patterson@replaced-ip) (Quit: I quit)
2264[18:50:23] *** Joins: omber_ (~lukasz@replaced-ip)
2265[18:51:13] *** Joins: inaki (~inaki@replaced-ip)
2266[18:51:58] <omber_> Question: I am running Stretch. I am trying to install a package listed on replaced-url
2267[18:52:02] *** Joins: JustStephIt (~JustSteph@replaced-ip)
2268[18:52:47] <shtrb> omber_ , did you do apt-get update after adding your repo in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
2269[18:53:03] *** Quits: necrose99 (~necrose99@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2270[18:53:23] *** Quits: Neomex (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2271[18:53:38] <omber_> shtrb, I did not add any new repositories besides default ones, I am not sure which repository to add based on the above link
2272[18:53:43] <babilen> omber_: Which package is it?
2273[18:54:00] <babilen> judd: v sabnzbdplus
2274[18:54:01] <judd> Package: sabnzbdplus on amd64 -- wheezy/contrib: 0.6.15-1; jessie/contrib: 0.7.18-1; stretch/contrib: 1.1.1+dfsg-1; buster/contrib: 2.3.1+dfsg-1; sid/contrib: 2.3.1+dfsg-1
2275[18:54:09] <babilen> omber_: That one ^^ ?
2276[18:54:12] *** Joins: Darcidride_ (~Darcidrid@replaced-ip)
2277[18:54:15] <omber_> babilen, yes
2278[18:54:19] <shtrb> If you already have main and **contrib** in /etc/apt/sources.list you only need to do apt-get update
2279[18:54:30] *** Quits: _Sm00th_ (~sssmoothy@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2280[18:54:34] <shtrb> make sure contrib is listed
2281[18:54:35] <omber_> looks like I am missing contrib, thank you
2282[18:54:36] *** Joins: socomm (~socomm@replaced-ip)
2283[18:54:44] <babilen> You want to ensure that you have entries for "contrib" .. an easy way would be to ensure that every line ends in "main contrib" (or "main contrib non-free")
2284[18:54:44] <shtrb> .next
2285[18:54:49] *** Parts: socomm (~socomm@replaced-ip) ()
2286[18:55:07] <babilen> Let us know if you need help and paste your current sources.list to replaced-url
2287[18:55:10] <babilen> dpkg: next
2288[18:55:11] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
2289[18:55:18] *** Joins: ogny (~orkun@replaced-ip)
2290[18:55:32] <shtrb> dpkg: are there debug repos in stable ?
2291[18:55:33] <dpkg> shtrb: I don't know, could you explain it?
2292[18:55:41] *** Joins: LucaTM (~LucaTM@replaced-ip)
2293[18:56:11] *** Quits: inaki (~inaki@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2294[18:56:55] *** Joins: nuno_nunes (~PC@replaced-ip)
2295[18:57:11] *** Quits: kai_w (~kjw53@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)
2296[18:57:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o eir
2297[18:57:19] *** eir sets mode: -qo *!*@81.177.22.248 eir
2298[18:57:34] *** Quits: p3rs3us (~jduro@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2299[18:57:49] *** Quits: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2300[18:58:08] *** Quits: shellclear_ (~shellclea@replaced-ip) (Quit: shellclear_)
2301[18:58:30] *** Joins: Poster|n (~poster@replaced-ip)
2302[19:00:24] *** Quits: ech042 (~ech042@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2303[19:00:33] *** Parts: c-c (csmr@replaced-ip) ("ta!")
2304[19:01:04] *** Joins: ezdev (~user@replaced-ip)
2305[19:01:24] *** Joins: scream (~scream@replaced-ip)
2306[19:02:09] *** Joins: Emmanuel_Chanel (~emmanuel@replaced-ip)
2307[19:02:22] *** Joins: rr (~rr@replaced-ip)
2308[19:02:46] *** Joins: shellclear_ (~shellclea@replaced-ip)
2309[19:04:43] *** Joins: rohff_user_243 (~3_ident_r@replaced-ip)
2310[19:05:11] *** Joins: imadz713 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
2311[19:05:59] *** Joins: ArlequInOut (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip)
2312[19:06:04] *** Joins: lankanmon (~LKNnet@replaced-ip)
2313[19:06:22] <annadane> shtrb, not a repo but replaced-url
2314[19:06:40] <jhutchins_wk> shtrb: What do you mean by debug repos?
2315[19:09:45] <shtrb> jhutchins_wk , sorry , used the wrong term
2316[19:10:32] *** Quits: lucad111 (~lucad111@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2317[19:10:46] *** Quits: Haudegen (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2318[19:12:50] *** Quits: immersive (~clickjack@replaced-ip) (Quit: bye)
2319[19:13:15] *** Quits: Tiffon (~name@replaced-ip) (Quit: exit)
2320[19:13:34] *** Quits: nuno_nunes (~PC@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2321[19:14:01] *** Joins: nodiscc (~automatic@replaced-ip)
2322[19:14:04] *** Joins: clickjack (~clickjack@replaced-ip)
2323[19:15:10] *** Joins: JustASlacker (~JustASlac@replaced-ip)
2324[19:15:27] *** Quits: nomic (~nomic4@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2325[19:15:52] *** Joins: Levure (~quassel@replaced-ip)
2326[19:16:52] *** Quits: ezdev (~user@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2327[19:17:45] *** Joins: aphotica (~aphotica@replaced-ip)
2328[19:18:27] *** Joins: fearnothing (~nothing@replaced-ip)
2329[19:18:31] *** Quits: hans_ (~hans@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2330[19:18:39] *** Quits: zbert (~user@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2331[19:19:23] *** Joins: Gaxpaxxo (~Gazpacho@replaced-ip)
2332[19:19:35] *** Quits: bliv (~bliv@replaced-ip) (Quit: brb)
2333[19:21:57] *** Quits: rohff_user_243 (~3_ident_r@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2334[19:22:25] *** Quits: JustASlacker (~JustASlac@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2335[19:22:54] *** Quits: Ltem (~ltem@replaced-ip) (Quit: bbl)
2336[19:23:17] *** Quits: m1n3 (a161d3d7@replaced-ip) (Quit: Page closed)
2337[19:25:18] *** Quits: JohnML (~john1@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2338[19:25:35] *** Quits: GJdan (~dan@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2339[19:25:36] *** Joins: smrcascao (c2412543@replaced-ip)
2340[19:25:36] *** Joins: thiras (~thiras@replaced-ip)
2341[19:26:13] *** Parts: jason972000__ (c6b15f81@replaced-ip) ()
2342[19:26:19] *** Joins: JohnML (~john1@replaced-ip)
2343[19:26:20] *** Joins: pos (~pos@replaced-ip)
2344[19:27:03] *** Quits: pos (~pos@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2345[19:27:50] *** Quits: JustStephIt (~JustSteph@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2346[19:27:51] *** Joins: pos (~pos@replaced-ip)
2347[19:28:02] *** Quits: pos (~pos@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2348[19:28:04] *** Joins: conta2 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
2349[19:28:17] *** Quits: Bitlog (~dsadasdfs@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2350[19:28:27] *** Quits: dreamon__ (~dreamon@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2351[19:28:35] *** Joins: JustStephIt (~JustSteph@replaced-ip)
2352[19:29:11] *** Joins: pos (~pos@replaced-ip)
2353[19:29:29] *** Joins: webuser5224 (~webuser52@replaced-ip)
2354[19:29:30] *** Joins: chele (~chele@replaced-ip)
2355[19:30:01] *** Joins: tarjo (~gjjfk@replaced-ip)
2356[19:30:59] *** Joins: xet7 (~xet7@replaced-ip)
2357[19:31:45] *** Quits: Kopfstein (~B@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
2358[19:32:11] *** Quits: conta2 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2359[19:33:20] *** Joins: Haudegen (~quassel@replaced-ip)
2360[19:34:27] *** Joins: zbert (~user@replaced-ip)
2361[19:36:29] *** Joins: snubs (~snubs@replaced-ip)
2362[19:37:03] <jhutchins_wk> Wonder why they don't do that as a repo...
2363[19:37:05] *** Quits: deicide- (~deicide-@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2364[19:38:57] *** Quits: karakedi (~eAC53C340@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2365[19:38:58] <somiaj> do what as a repo?
2366[19:39:36] *** Joins: AnD[a]LeS (~andales@replaced-ip)
2367[19:39:42] *** Quits: AlexPortable (uid7568@replaced-ip) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
2368[19:39:47] <shtrb> the *-debug folders
2369[19:40:06] *** Quits: GrimKriegor (~GrimKrieg@replaced-ip) (Quit: oh bai bai bai)
2370[19:41:01] *** Joins: well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip)
2371[19:42:23] *** Joins: megaTherion (~therion@replaced-ip)
2372[19:42:35] *** Quits: BeamWatcher (~gashead76@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2373[19:42:37] <megaTherion> Hello, is it possible to dump to shell with the default initramfs in Debian Stretch?
2374[19:42:45] <somiaj> shtrb: I'm still unsure what you mean.
2375[19:43:09] <shtrb> somiaj, I should had been using the correct termp ("section" ?)
2376[19:44:32] *** Quits: xorgnak_ (~xorgnak@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2377[19:44:35] <somiaj> shtrb: so you do mean the list annadane linked? You can search for things like this with aptitude
2378[19:45:05] *** Joins: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip)
2379[19:45:05] *** Quits: tarjo (~gjjfk@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2380[19:45:12] *** Quits: vidjogamer (~vidjogame@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2381[19:45:14] <bolt> shtrb: many packages have a -debug package available
2382[19:45:44] <shtrb> I know , I know I was wrong (with newer versions you should have version-debug )
2383[19:45:59] <shtrb> forget it
2384[19:46:02] <koollman> megaTherion: init=/bin/bash, as an argument to the kernel ? or do you think about something else
2385[19:46:05] <koollman> ?
2386[19:46:13] *** Joins: vidjogamer (~vidjogame@replaced-ip)
2387[19:47:27] *** Quits: tpanarch1st (~tpanarch1@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2388[19:47:59] *** crapp is now known as zerox2a
2389[19:48:03] *** Joins: overlord_tm (~andraz@replaced-ip)
2390[19:48:07] *** Joins: patterson (~patterson@replaced-ip)
2391[19:48:08] *** Quits: patterson (~patterson@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2392[19:49:27] *** Joins: troulouliou_div2 (~troulouli@replaced-ip)
2393[19:49:42] *** Joins: jayarcs (~jayarcs@replaced-ip)
2394[19:49:52] *** Joins: Kruppt (~Kruppt@replaced-ip)
2395[19:50:32] *** Joins: GrimKriegor (~GrimKrieg@replaced-ip)
2396[19:50:33] *** Quits: snubs (~snubs@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2397[19:50:57] <megaTherion> koollman: that only works if you've already an root filesystem mounted?
2398[19:51:34] *** Quits: aruns__ (~indistylo@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2399[19:51:35] <koollman> megaTherion: no. bash is typically in initramfs
2400[19:51:53] <koollman> (otherwise, pick a shell that would be there)
2401[19:52:24] <megaTherion> koollman: well doesnt work, last lines I see are "mounting /dev/block/8:2 on /root failed: No such device"
2402[19:52:36] <megaTherion> ya thats why Im asking, Im not familiar with Debian's initramfs layout :)
2403[19:52:46] <megaTherion> I dont know what's there or isnt
2404[19:53:03] *** Quits: Levure (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2405[19:53:43] *** Quits: Almtesh (~Almtesh@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - ##replaced-url
2406[19:54:20] *** Joins: Almtesh (~Almtesh@replaced-ip)
2407[19:55:18] *** Joins: tt_ (~chinggis6@replaced-ip)
2408[19:55:20] *** Quits: imadz713 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Quit: imadz713)
2409[19:55:57] *** Quits: mzf (~fakhraee@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2410[19:56:13] *** Quits: azur_kind (~azur_kind@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2411[19:56:45] *** Quits: paraxic (~paraxic@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2412[19:57:06] *** Quits: nic_ (~nic@replaced-ip) ()
2413[19:57:14] *** Joins: mzf (~fakhraee@replaced-ip)
2414[19:59:34] *** Quits: DocHopper_ (~DocHopper@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2415[19:59:53] *** Joins: DocHopper_ (~DocHopper@replaced-ip)
2416[20:00:08] *** Joins: nac (~nac@replaced-ip)
2417[20:00:35] *** Parts: megaTherion (~therion@replaced-ip) ("Leaving")
2418[20:01:41] *** Joins: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip)
2419[20:01:44] *** Quits: rootkea (~rootkea@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2420[20:02:09] *** Joins: DrWatson (~DrWatson_@replaced-ip)
2421[20:02:19] *** Joins: sn0wmonster (~yeti@replaced-ip)
2422[20:02:51] *** Joins: azur_kind (~azur_kind@replaced-ip)
2423[20:03:00] *** Joins: BeamWatcher (~gashead76@replaced-ip)
2424[20:04:32] *** Quits: AsciiWolf (~drusek@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2425[20:04:47] *** Joins: paraxic (~paraxic@replaced-ip)
2426[20:05:00] *** Quits: MarioBranco (~MarioBran@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2427[20:05:01] *** Joins: hlmjr (~herbmille@replaced-ip)
2428[20:05:23] *** Quits: baloona (~baloona@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2429[20:05:44] *** Quits: enkrypt (~enkrypt@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2430[20:07:09] *** Joins: baloona (~baloona@replaced-ip)
2431[20:07:11] *** Quits: MuffinMedic (Evan@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2432[20:07:44] *** Joins: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip)
2433[20:09:07] *** Quits: JackK (~jack@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2434[20:10:05] *** Quits: Darcidride_ (~Darcidrid@replaced-ip) (Quit: Bye.)
2435[20:10:26] *** Joins: karakedi (~eAC53C340@replaced-ip)
2436[20:10:26] *** Quits: karakedi (~eAC53C340@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
2437[20:10:26] *** Joins: karakedi (~eAC53C340@replaced-ip)
2438[20:10:36] *** Joins: dreamon__ (~dreamon@replaced-ip)
2439[20:11:26] *** Quits: overlord_tm (~andraz@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2440[20:13:35] *** Quits: chiluk (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2441[20:14:19] *** Quits: ahmadadnan2 (~ahmadadna@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2442[20:14:36] *** Quits: remy (~remy@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2443[20:14:45] *** Quits: slack_ (~slack@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2444[20:15:08] *** Joins: slack_ (~slack@replaced-ip)
2445[20:15:26] *** Quits: shellclear_ (~shellclea@replaced-ip) (Quit: shellclear_)
2446[20:15:28] *** Quits: aphotica (~aphotica@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2447[20:15:40] *** Joins: chiluk (~quassel@replaced-ip)
2448[20:17:00] *** Joins: TsuDragon (~quassel@replaced-ip)
2449[20:17:19] *** Quits: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2450[20:17:26] *** Quits: TsuDragon (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2451[20:17:28] *** Joins: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
2452[20:17:40] *** Joins: flux242 (~chatzilla@replaced-ip)
2453[20:18:05] *** Quits: randomstrangerb (~randomstr@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2454[20:18:28] *** Joins: randomstrangerb (~randomstr@replaced-ip)
2455[20:18:47] *** Joins: zapperoo_ (~ZaP@replaced-ip)
2456[20:18:58] *** Joins: enkrypt (~enkrypt@replaced-ip)
2457[20:19:54] *** Quits: ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
2458[20:20:03] *** Joins: ArAnAnAdAm (~4eb9c1f3@replaced-ip)
2459[20:20:08] *** Joins: ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@replaced-ip)
2460[20:20:27] *** Quits: troulouliou_div2 (~troulouli@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2461[20:20:30] <ArAnAnAdAm> her burada turkce konusabilen var mi
2462[20:20:33] *** Joins: MuffinMedic (Evan@replaced-ip)
2463[20:20:46] *** Joins: Th3Z0h4n (~Th3Z0h4n@replaced-ip)
2464[20:21:57] <ArAnAnAdAm> have a turkish channel in thats here?
2465[20:22:07] *** Quits: zapperoo (~ZaP@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2466[20:22:15] *** Quits: e1z0 (~null@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2467[20:23:06] *** Quits: ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2468[20:23:33] *** Joins: ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@replaced-ip)
2469[20:23:45] <ArAnAnAdAm> her meselede oldugu gibi yine garbin bir taraflarina yapisarak yasamaya devam ediyorsunuz demek
2470[20:23:56] *** Quits: Slashman (~Slash@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2471[20:24:18] <ArAnAnAdAm> uyanin be uyanin tasaklarina yapistiginiz putunuz dahi tek ilahi ilim olan batidan ithal
2472[20:24:45] *** Quits: ArAnAnAdAm (~4eb9c1f3@replaced-ip) (Quit: CGI:IRC)
2473[20:26:25] <annadane> !turkish
2474[20:26:25] <dpkg> [turkish] #turklug, or trke yardm iin #debian.tr
2475[20:26:35] <annadane> well, they left anyway
2476[20:27:46] *** Quits: auror (~auror@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2477[20:27:51] *** Quits: nodiscc (~automatic@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving.)
2478[20:28:50] *** Joins: raynold (uid201163@replaced-ip)
2479[20:29:17] *** Quits: tt_ (~chinggis6@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 2.0)
2480[20:29:27] *** Quits: slack_ (~slack@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2481[20:29:30] *** Quits: LocaMocha (bocaneri@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2482[20:29:54] *** Joins: slack_ (~slack@replaced-ip)
2483[20:29:57] *** Joins: e1z0 (~null@replaced-ip)
2484[20:30:53] *** Quits: zbert (~user@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2485[20:30:55] *** Quits: ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
2486[20:32:45] *** Joins: ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@replaced-ip)
2487[20:32:47] *** Quits: Tom-_ (~tomg@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2488[20:33:01] *** Quits: Typhon (~Typhon@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2489[20:33:36] *** Joins: sverzel (~sverzel@replaced-ip)
2490[20:34:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1709
2491[20:34:11] *** Joins: deicide- (~deicide-@replaced-ip)
2492[20:34:23] <sverzel> can't find any info on the Intel "memory leak" issue - anyone know when a fix will be implemented for Debian?
2493[20:34:58] *** Quits: mpmc (~mpmc@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.6.3+deb1+jessie0 - ##replaced-url
2494[20:35:15] <shtrb> sverzel , you should wait
2495[20:35:27] *** Quits: webuser5224 (~webuser52@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2496[20:35:34] *** Joins: mpmc (~mpmc@replaced-ip)
2497[20:35:46] *** Joins: remy (~remy@replaced-ip)
2498[20:35:59] *** Quits: AnD[a]LeS (~andales@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2499[20:36:02] <sverzel> shtrb, I guess that's the only logical thing to do, but I wondered if there's been any statements?
2500[20:36:20] <frostschutz> next year
2501[20:36:33] <shtrb> some devs had dropped messages about it few hours ago
2502[20:37:00] <sverzel> "working on it and yeah systems will drop performance"?
2503[20:37:05] *** Quits: enkrypt (~enkrypt@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2504[20:37:27] <shtrb> sverzel , each workflow will be hit by a different way
2505[20:37:37] *** Joins: _0x4B1 (~Thereisno@replaced-ip)
2506[20:37:48] <jhutchins_wk> sverzel: It's a longstanding problem that's been blown out of proportion by the media.
2507[20:37:57] <sverzel> shtrb, of course, it depends on how much you interact with the kernel I guess
2508[20:38:28] <jhutchins_wk> sverzel: Make sure you have the latest microcode installed and watch the security-announce mailing lists.
2509[20:38:31] <sverzel> jhutchins_wk, didn't it start in like June? 5-50% performance reduction sounds serious to me. Depending on the situation, of course.
2510[20:39:10] *** Quits: towo` (~towo@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2511[20:39:29] <shtrb> sverzel the 30-60 marks are for IO intensive only
2512[20:39:52] *** Joins: rkta (~kt@replaced-ip)
2513[20:40:44] <sverzel> shtrb, mm. I work mostly with databases and they are IO intensive, hence my curiosity.
2514[20:40:58] *** Joins: vvor (~vvor@replaced-ip)
2515[20:41:46] *** Quits: Evol (~no@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2516[20:41:58] *** Joins: Typhon (~Typhon@replaced-ip)
2517[20:42:21] *** Joins: format_c (~koeppea@replaced-ip)
2518[20:42:36] *** Joins: auror (~auror@replaced-ip)
2519[20:42:59] *** Quits: ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
2520[20:43:23] *** Joins: jordila (~jordi@replaced-ip)
2521[20:43:37] *** Joins: ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@replaced-ip)
2522[20:44:05] <shtrb> let us move to debian-offtopic
2523[20:44:07] *** Joins: Neomex (~quassel@replaced-ip)
2524[20:44:09] *** Quits: sh00p (~z@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2525[20:44:09] <jordila> Looking for potential rootkits... when running rkunter, i'm being informed about :
2526[20:44:54] <jordila> [20:21:50] Files checked: 144
2527[20:44:54] <jordila> [20:21:50] Suspect files: 1
2528[20:45:15] <jordila> [20:21:50] Possible rootkits: 1
2529[20:45:15] <jordila> [20:21:50] Rootkit names : RH-Sharpe's Rootkit
2530[20:45:25] <jordila> any hints are more than welcomed
2531[20:45:56] * jordila ... typo error : rkhunter , naturally
2532[20:46:13] <annadane> jordila, in future, use paste.debian.net for long pastes
2533[20:46:17] *** Joins: JordiGH (jordi@replaced-ip)
2534[20:46:31] <jordila> sure annadane
2535[20:46:35] *** Quits: slack_ (~slack@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2536[20:46:53] *** Quits: dayten (~gnoid@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2537[20:46:56] <JordiGH> What was that command for showing the versions of all installed packages? I want to know how much backport I have.
2538[20:46:59] *** Joins: barbarinfourchu (~barbarinf@replaced-ip)
2539[20:47:04] *** Joins: slack_ (~slack@replaced-ip)
2540[20:47:37] <jhutchins_wk> jordila: It's been a while, but I remember rkhunter giving me more detail than that, like what file was suspect.
2541[20:47:57] *** Joins: DerLG (~derlg@replaced-ip)
2542[20:48:31] *** clickjack is now known as immersive
2543[20:49:20] *** Joins: webuser5224 (~webuser52@replaced-ip)
2544[20:49:59] *** Joins: secvalve (~iaeofjgsk@replaced-ip)
2545[20:50:31] *** Joins: enkrypt (~enkrypt@replaced-ip)
2546[20:50:34] *** Joins: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip)
2547[20:50:42] *** Quits: ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
2548[20:51:12] *** Joins: ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@replaced-ip)
2549[20:51:48] *** Joins: waflessnet (~waflessne@replaced-ip)
2550[20:51:49] *** Quits: numbdewd (~numbdewd@replaced-ip) (Quit: ☺ )
2551[20:52:05] *** Joins: OS-25689 (~OS-25689@replaced-ip)
2552[20:52:11] *** Parts: OS-25689 (~OS-25689@replaced-ip) ("Leaving")
2553[20:52:12] *** Quits: ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2554[20:52:13] *** Joins: nekomata (~nekomata@replaced-ip)
2555[20:52:21] *** Joins: aphotica (~aphotica@replaced-ip)
2556[20:52:28] *** Quits: nekomata (~nekomata@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2557[20:52:52] *** Joins: ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@replaced-ip)
2558[20:53:00] *** Quits: t0aster0ven (~iaeofjgsk@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
2559[20:53:10] *** Joins: sparky4 (~sparky4@replaced-ip)
2560[20:53:19] <sparky4> evolution is kill
2561[20:53:58] *** Joins: geri (4a798963@replaced-ip)
2562[20:54:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1721
2563[20:54:10] <geri> hi, any idea how to fix this issue? replaced-url
2564[20:54:29] *** Joins: Evol (~no@replaced-ip)
2565[20:54:35] *** Quits: iderik (~idk@replaced-ip) (Quit: iderik)
2566[20:54:42] *** Joins: jehorn (~jehorn___@replaced-ip)
2567[20:55:32] *** Joins: RedSoxFan07 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
2568[20:55:51] <waflessnet> me cambie de debian a gentoo
2569[20:55:55] <waflessnet> :/
2570[20:55:59] *** Quits: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2571[20:56:00] <waflessnet> y esta rebueno XD
2572[20:56:04] *** Joins: V-Vega- (~vvega@replaced-ip)
2573[20:56:19] <waflessnet> sobre un i686 XD
2574[20:56:20] <shtrb> waflessnet debian-es ?
2575[20:56:40] <waflessnet> shtrb, omg , error change channel thanx
2576[20:56:46] <waflessnet> :*
2577[20:57:55] <shtrb> lebutze haisti
2578[20:57:57] *** Joins: inaki (~inaki@replaced-ip)
2579[20:58:27] *** Quits: ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
2580[20:59:48] *** Quits: Delta-One (~zero@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2581[21:00:09] *** Joins: Delta-One (~zero@replaced-ip)
2582[21:00:30] *** Quits: Th3Z0h4n (~Th3Z0h4n@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2583[21:00:47] *** Joins: ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@replaced-ip)
2584[21:01:05] *** Quits: sparky4 (~sparky4@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2585[21:01:10] *** Quits: jehorn (~jehorn___@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2586[21:02:32] *** Joins: jehorn (~jehorn___@replaced-ip)
2587[21:02:51] <JordiGH> There totally was a way to list packages by repo they were installed from.
2588[21:02:53] <JordiGH> What was it?
2589[21:03:53] *** Quits: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2590[21:04:27] *** Quits: Tom01 (~tom@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2591[21:04:35] *** Quits: webuser5224 (~webuser52@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2592[21:06:10] <babilen> JordiGH: replaced-url
2593[21:06:31] *** Joins: Darby_Crash (~Darby_Cra@replaced-ip)
2594[21:06:51] <babilen> dpkg: which repo
2595[21:06:51] <dpkg> To see what repository a package may have come from, try replaced-url
2596[21:06:55] *** Quits: inaki (~inaki@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2597[21:07:13] *** Quits: ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
2598[21:08:09] *** Joins: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
2599[21:10:02] *** Quits: DrWatson (~DrWatson_@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2600[21:10:41] *** Quits: mypapit (~fakap@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2601[21:10:41] *** Quits: papitfx (~hafiz@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2602[21:10:56] *** Joins: ompaul (~ompaul@replaced-ip)
2603[21:11:01] *** Joins: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip)
2604[21:11:05] <JordiGH> Thanks, wfm.
2605[21:11:14] <JordiGH> But I think I really was looking for aptitude search.
2606[21:11:14] *** Quits: hipodilski (~hipo@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2607[21:11:15] *** Quits: Halcy0n (~Halcy0n@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2608[21:11:23] *** Quits: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2609[21:11:50] *** Joins: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip)
2610[21:12:11] *** Joins: mypapit (~fakap@replaced-ip)
2611[21:12:12] *** Joins: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip)
2612[21:12:56] *** Quits: pos (~pos@replaced-ip) (Quit: pos)
2613[21:13:11] *** Joins: papitfx (~hafiz@replaced-ip)
2614[21:14:27] <paraxic> what version of glibc is on stretch ?
2615[21:15:01] *** Joins: dudebbn_ (~dudebbn@replaced-ip)
2616[21:15:26] <ski7777> Hi
2617[21:15:38] <ski7777> When was the release of debian 9.3?
2618[21:15:46] *** Quits: stackofcats_ (~stackofca@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.6.5+deb1 - ##replaced-url
2619[21:15:58] *** Quits: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2620[21:16:03] <annadane> ski7777, december 9
2621[21:16:07] *** Quits: rypervenche (~rypervenc@replaced-ip) (Quit: brb)
2622[21:16:13] *** Joins: stackofcats (~stackofca@replaced-ip)
2623[21:16:29] <ski7777> How to check, when I installed it?
2624[21:16:38] <annadane> paraxic, 2.24-11+deb9u1
2625[21:16:41] *** Quits: gagrio (~gagrio@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2626[21:16:53] *** Quits: auror (~auror@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
2627[21:16:53] *** Joins: auror (~auror@replaced-ip)
2628[21:17:13] *** Quits: nac (~nac@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2629[21:17:23] <paraxic> annadane: ahh thanks
2630[21:17:35] *** Quits: underheavendt (~dudebbn@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2631[21:17:38] <annadane> that is the source package for glibc
2632[21:18:02] *** Joins: webuser5224 (~webuser52@replaced-ip)
2633[21:18:45] <ompaul> ski7777: cat /etc/debian_version and if that says stretch if you apt update && apt upgrade you'll get there
2634[21:18:47] *** Joins: jsdk (~jsdk@replaced-ip)
2635[21:18:48] *** Quits: vvor (~vvor@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
2636[21:19:14] *** Joins: Ltem (~ltem@replaced-ip)
2637[21:19:28] *** Joins: rypervenche (~rypervenc@replaced-ip)
2638[21:19:35] *** Quits: somnambler (~michael@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2639[21:19:37] <ompaul> ski7777: if it doesn't say stretch you are not running that which will become stretch without some other work - so you'd have to tell us what it is you have :-)
2640[21:19:58] *** Joins: vvor (~vvor@replaced-ip)
2641[21:20:15] <ski7777> Problem is solved
2642[21:20:20] *** Joins: pibarnas (~pibarnas@replaced-ip)
2643[21:20:33] <ompaul> I love it when a plan comes together.
2644[21:20:38] *** Joins: CapsAdmin (~CapsAdmin@replaced-ip)
2645[21:20:49] <ski7777> I hadd some build issues on buildroot and I was thinking about that the host might be the problem
2646[21:21:15] <ski7777> But another collegue is using deb9.2 and he has the same problems
2647[21:21:18] <jordila> umh... Rootkit Hunter gives : " Checking for root equivalent (UID 0) accounts [ Warning ]
2648[21:21:18] <jordila> "
2649[21:21:43] <jordila> umh...system might have been compromised & backdoored ?
2650[21:22:04] *** Quits: vvor (~vvor@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2651[21:23:56] <shtrb> !paste
2652[21:23:56] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: replaced-url
2653[21:24:33] *** Parts: JordiGH (jordi@replaced-ip) ("Leaving")
2654[21:24:35] <bolt> jordila: does it actually print a verbose warning message, or just that "[ Warning ]"?
2655[21:24:39] *** Joins: domble (~domble@replaced-ip)
2656[21:24:48] *** Joins: featheredperson (~feathered@replaced-ip)
2657[21:25:15] <bolt> jordila: if you've got nothing else to go by, check /etc/passwd for any non-root accounts with uid 0. if you've got some external login set up, ldap or similar, that might be triggering it too
2658[21:25:23] <jordila> just that Warning ... seems to ...
2659[21:26:26] *** Joins: conta1 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
2660[21:26:54] *** Joins: DieMoesch (~thomas@replaced-ip)
2661[21:26:56] <bolt> jordila: perhaps "getent passwd | grep ':0:'" might be enlightening?
2662[21:26:59] *** Joins: vvor (~vvor@replaced-ip)
2663[21:27:12] <jordila> the thing is that suspiciously someone (alien) is changing (several times) sshd_config file allowing 'root' SSH access ... (which was forbidden 'no' ) >> to 'whithout-password'
2664[21:27:22] *** featheredperson is now known as feathered_person
2665[21:27:34] *** Quits: feathered_person (~feathered@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
2666[21:27:34] *** Joins: feathered_person (~feathered@replaced-ip)
2667[21:27:46] *** Quits: vvor (~vvor@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2668[21:27:50] * jordila Auth... Logs didn't allowed me to check for intruders for the moment, though ...
2669[21:28:12] <bolt> jordila: without-password is the default for stretch afaik. do you have some remote administration system that might be reinstalling that package?
2670[21:28:38] *** Joins: Obi-Wan (~obi-wan@replaced-ip)
2671[21:28:44] *** Quits: jerdef82 (~jerdef@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2672[21:29:02] <ompaul> jordila: did you know there are debian tools for checking a system apt search rootkit
2673[21:29:04] * jordila just updated to 'Stretch' on new Year's eve ... so it already happened prior to ( 'Jessie' )
2674[21:29:22] <jordila> i did not ompaul
2675[21:29:33] <aphotica> Debian 9.3, fresh install is very stable and lightweight
2676[21:29:39] <aphotica> quite happy
2677[21:29:44] <ompaul> jordila: if you suspect a machine the thing you do is disconnect it from the internet and via a console inspect it
2678[21:30:32] <SwK> so is the PTI stuff gonna end up backported to Jessie kernels?
2679[21:30:55] *** Quits: conta1 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2680[21:31:08] *** Quits: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip) (Quit: ...dobranoc!)
2681[21:31:33] *** Quits: _0bitcount (~Big_Byte@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2682[21:31:35] *** Quits: JustStephIt (~JustSteph@replaced-ip##) (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium ##replaced-url
2683[21:32:19] *** Joins: scootypuff1 (~barbs@replaced-ip)
2684[21:32:22] *** Quits: jordila (~jordi@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving.)
2685[21:32:51] *** Quits: scootypuff (~barbs@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2686[21:32:56] *** Joins: czesmir_ (~stefan@replaced-ip)
2687[21:34:06] *** Joins: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip)
2688[21:34:57] *** Quits: feathered_person (~feathered@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2689[21:35:04] *** Joins: SpeccyMan (~nick@replaced-ip)
2690[21:35:52] *** Joins: fsr (~user@replaced-ip)
2691[21:36:17] *** Quits: czesmir (~stefan@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2692[21:37:55] *** Quits: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2693[21:38:54] *** Joins: foul_owl (~foul_owl@replaced-ip)
2694[21:39:55] <annadane> glad to hear it, aphotica :)
2695[21:40:02] *** Quits: secvalve (~iaeofjgsk@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2696[21:40:13] *** Quits: pibarnas (~pibarnas@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2697[21:40:17] *** Quits: flux242 (~chatzilla@replaced-ip) (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 56.0/20171003222101])
2698[21:40:50] *** Parts: fsr (~user@replaced-ip) ("Leaving")
2699[21:40:51] *** Joins: t0aster0ven (~iaeofjgsk@replaced-ip)
2700[21:41:35] *** Quits: Obi-Wan (~obi-wan@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2701[21:41:47] *** Joins: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip)
2702[21:44:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1715
2703[21:44:23] *** Joins: Satou (~jjj@replaced-ip)
2704[21:44:59] *** Quits: setty (~setty@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2705[21:46:12] *** Joins: nrx (~metax@replaced-ip)
2706[21:46:46] *** Quits: metxn (~metax@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2707[21:49:16] *** Joins: megaTherion (~therion@replaced-ip)
2708[21:49:34] <megaTherion> why does stupid systemd reboot instantly if it cant check the root device? how can I drop to shell?
2709[21:50:17] *** Quits: ogny (~orkun@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2710[21:50:37] *** Joins: sh00p (~z@replaced-ip)
2711[21:50:49] *** Joins: vvor (~vvor@replaced-ip)
2712[21:51:13] *** Quits: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2713[21:51:47] *** Quits: DeinFreund (~YourFrien@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2714[21:51:49] *** Joins: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip)
2715[21:51:59] <jhutchins_wk> megaTherion: Probably best to boot to a rescue image.
2716[21:52:08] <megaTherion> there is none
2717[21:52:13] <megaTherion> why would it expect that there would be one?
2718[21:52:30] <jhutchins_wk> megaTherion: One what?
2719[21:52:34] <megaTherion> "rescue image"
2720[21:52:49] <jhutchins_wk> megaTherion: I mean an iso - a USB or disk.
2721[21:52:55] <megaTherion> as said there is none.
2722[21:52:58] <megaTherion> anyways can I change this behaviour?
2723[21:53:09] *** Quits: DerLG (~derlg@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2724[21:53:12] <shtrb> megaTherion do you have keyboard access prior to the reboot ?
2725[21:53:38] *** Quits: vvor (~vvor@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2726[21:53:38] <jhutchins_wk> megaTherion: There wouldn't magically be one, it's something you make. You can use an installer image.
2727[21:53:58] <megaTherion> shtrb: well it just boots fine, saying "[FAILED] to start File System Check on Root device." <- I dont care, it shall continue booting not rebooting immediadly
2728[21:53:59] *** Joins: Obi-Wan (~obi-wan@replaced-ip)
2729[21:53:59] *** Quits: Obi-Wan (~obi-wan@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
2730[21:53:59] *** Joins: Obi-Wan (~obi-wan@replaced-ip)
2731[21:54:05] <megaTherion> jhutchins_wk: exacly
2732[21:54:28] <shtrb> megaTherion , if you have keyboard you can setup single user access ( I hope , depened on your system)
2733[21:54:37] *** Joins: wyre (wyre@replaced-ip)
2734[21:54:44] <megaTherion> shtrb: how am I gonna tell that to systemd?
2735[21:55:22] <shtrb> add init=/bin/bash to the grub line you are starting (it should hopefully work)
2736[21:55:30] <megaTherion> ah ok well I'll try
2737[21:55:33] *** Quits: Neomex (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2738[21:56:15] <megaTherion> shtrb: yeah works, thanks - now I've to figure out how to change the systemd behaviour
2739[21:56:18] <shtrb> but I don't know if that will do the job for you (so you could fix the issue that brake systemd)
2740[21:56:28] *** Joins: Iridos (~iridos@replaced-ip)
2741[21:56:29] <megaTherion> (I dont want systemd at all but since there is no Debian without it anymore...)
2742[21:56:35] <jhutchins_wk> If it's not finding the root device, it's not going to find the initrd, and there's going to be nothing for it to boot to.
2743[21:56:42] <megaTherion> shtrb: the issue is basically I changed the root fs - but thats my choice
2744[21:56:43] <shtrb> there is a reason why it failed to access, maybe mount or some module is missing ?
2745[21:56:45] *** Quits: pyllyukko (~pyllyukko@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
2746[21:56:54] <megaTherion> jhutchins_wk: it found it already, it can even shutdown the system gracefully
2747[21:57:25] *** Quits: owl_tech (~owl@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2748[21:57:28] <shtrb> jhutchins_wk , I thought it is common practise to have boot not on rootfs
2749[21:57:39] <shtrb> thanks for the hint it is not common
2750[21:58:14] *** Joins: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip)
2751[21:58:31] *** Quits: paraxic (~paraxic@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - ##replaced-url
2752[21:58:41] *** Quits: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2753[21:59:17] <megaTherion> jhutchins_wk: I'm not using an initrd, dont want one
2754[21:59:22] <megaTherion> its also booting fine
2755[21:59:25] *** Joins: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip)
2756[21:59:30] <jhutchins_wk> shtrb: Back in the days when systems were commonly multi-user shell access it was a security issue, but if a user could write to /boot they could alter the boot process anyway.
2757[22:00:16] <shtrb> thanks for the notice
2758[22:00:21] *** Quits: baloona (~baloona@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)
2759[22:00:39] <jhutchins_wk> megaTherion: From what you've said you don't have any idea what's actualy happening. If you're running debian on intel or amd architecture you're using an initrd/initfs.
2760[22:01:00] <megaTherion> why would I not have an idea? I told you the current situation.
2761[22:01:06] <megaTherion> I've removed the initrd crap because I dont need it
2762[22:01:08] *** Joins: Hydrastra (~LUX@replaced-ip)
2763[22:01:22] <megaTherion> I've replaced the kernel with custom configuration which I've done maybe 1000 times or more back in the past on various systems
2764[22:01:39] <megaTherion> its booting fine, even telling me so until it hits a specific point where systemd decides to reboot
2765[22:01:44] <megaTherion> (for whatever reason unknown to me)
2766[22:01:49] *** Joins: vvor (~vvor@replaced-ip)
2767[22:02:14] *** Quits: vvor (~vvor@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2768[22:02:17] <megaTherion> its due this "systemd-fsck-root.service" thing
2769[22:02:20] <megaTherion> I want to get rid of it
2770[22:02:36] *** Quits: Mad_Hat (~Mad_Hat@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2771[22:02:37] *** Quits: rkta (~kt@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2772[22:02:54] <synthmeat> does systemd know that non-forking unit is dead without explicit pid file?
2773[22:03:03] <synthmeat> asking for a friend
2774[22:03:57] *** Joins: towo` (~towo@replaced-ip)
2775[22:04:23] <synthmeat> :D just wanna know if Restart's gonna work if i don't create that file manually from the service's actual code
2776[22:04:25] *** Joins: KidBeta (~textual@replaced-ip)
2777[22:04:28] *** Joins: ogny (~orkun@replaced-ip)
2778[22:05:09] *** Joins: paraxic (~paraxic@replaced-ip)
2779[22:05:20] *** Joins: scootypuff (~barbs@replaced-ip)
2780[22:06:16] <jhutchins_wk> Georg if it tries to check the root filesystem but can't find it, it's going to assume there's nothing to boot to and stop the boot process. The fact that it reboots may not be intuitive, but you wouldn't have anything to work with anyway, all of the shells and utilities are on the root device. There's no there there.
2781[22:06:23] *** Quits: nrx (~metax@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2782[22:06:42] <jhutchins_wk> That's why you need to boot to something other than the system you're trying to fix, you need a working system to access the files.
2783[22:06:48] *** Quits: ArlequInOut (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2784[22:06:49] *** Joins: nrx (~metax@replaced-ip)
2785[22:07:11] *** Quits: unicron_ (~unicron@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2786[22:07:24] *** Quits: baa44 (~root@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2787[22:07:40] *** Quits: scootypuff1 (~barbs@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2788[22:07:54] <megaTherion> jhutchins_wk: but thats an false assumption because in fact it past already many stages which would be impossible without an proper /
2789[22:08:06] <megaTherion> jhutchins_wk: its an image I've in virtualbox, I can only make an screenshot of it atm
2790[22:08:27] *** Quits: Vizva (~Vizva@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2791[22:08:48] *** Joins: baa44 (~root@replaced-ip)
2792[22:09:58] *** Joins: vvor (~vvor@replaced-ip)
2793[22:10:24] <jhutchins_wk> That's not really an assumption, that's what your system is doing. Yes, I agree, it seems to have some system loaded from whatever source, but at the point that it tries to check the rootfs it can't find it for whatever reason, and reacts accordingly.
2794[22:10:32] *** Joins: shellclear (~shellclea@replaced-ip)
2795[22:10:40] <megaTherion> jhutchins_wk: replaced-url
2796[22:10:51] *** Joins: RedSoxFan08 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
2797[22:10:55] *** Quits: dohfish (~oemillak@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2798[22:10:56] <megaTherion> yeah thats why I want this service to be overriden, gone, killed, whatever
2799[22:11:26] *** Parts: LorD_n1c0w (~igor@replaced-ip) ()
2800[22:11:37] *** Joins: ArlequInOut (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip)
2801[22:12:05] *** Quits: RedSoxFan07 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2802[22:12:05] *** RedSoxFan08 is now known as RedSoxFan07
2803[22:12:11] *** Quits: format_c (~koeppea@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2804[22:12:39] <megaTherion> I also dont want to start a systemd/init flamewar - I basically left Linux because of this decission, Im using usually Gentoo because one still has a choice - so I basically know nothing about systemd's behaviour.
2805[22:12:56] <megaTherion> but there must be a way to override this, Linux was always about choice and I chose f2fs as my root filesystem.
2806[22:13:55] <jhutchins_wk> megaTherion: WEll, you're going to have to get into the systemd code and figure out what it's doing. Notice that it also fails to load the kernel modules. It's probably not loading the module for your filesystem.
2807[22:14:18] <megaTherion> its compiled in
2808[22:14:22] <megaTherion> I dont want any modules, I dont need them
2809[22:14:39] <jhutchins_wk> Yes, linux is about choices. Systemd and gnome not so much.
2810[22:14:47] *** Joins: Nefertiti (~Nefertiti@replaced-ip)
2811[22:14:48] <shtrb> megaTherion you could change that service to behave as if it treated
2812[22:14:54] <jhutchins_wk> megaTherion: If it doesn't need any why is it trying (and failing) to load them?
2813[22:14:59] <megaTherion> shtrb: yes if you tell me how :)
2814[22:14:59] *** Quits: zerox2a (~saedelaer@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)
2815[22:15:11] *** Quits: SpeccyMan (~nick@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2816[22:15:16] <shtrb> but you also need to remove the force system check from the system
2817[22:15:20] <megaTherion> jhutchins_wk: because systemd isnt as good as all people promised... seems my fears turn out true
2818[22:15:40] <jhutchins_wk> megaTherion: Build a stock Debian VM and use it to mount the VDisk so you can work on it.
2819[22:15:48] <megaTherion> I have that already
2820[22:16:19] <megaTherion> basically if something unexecpted happens what I want is that I get dropped to shell
2821[22:16:41] *** Quits: NetTerminalGene (~NetTermin@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2822[22:16:52] <shtrb> megaTherion , I think if it will return 0 it would be consider ok
2823[22:17:18] *** Joins: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip)
2824[22:18:27] *** Joins: unicron_ (~unicron@replaced-ip)
2825[22:18:36] *** Joins: Ralin3_ (~Ralin3@replaced-ip)
2826[22:18:58] *** Joins: lnxslck (~LnxSlck@replaced-ip)
2827[22:19:14] *** Joins: SpeccyMan (~nick@replaced-ip)
2828[22:19:40] <jhutchins_wk> megaTherion: How is it going to load a shell if it can't find the root filesystem?
2829[22:19:48] <megaTherion> it already has one
2830[22:19:56] <megaTherion> it can start other services just fine
2831[22:19:59] <paraxic> so whats the deal with unicode, all my locales set(en_US.UTF-8), utf8 enabled terminal(rxvt-unicode), utf8 enabled irc client(weechat) and got the noto and symbola fonts and still not rendering all unicode chars ?
2832[22:20:27] *** Joins: nashimus (~nashimus@replaced-ip)
2833[22:20:47] <nashimus> join #libreboot
2834[22:20:57] *** Quits: bapophis__ (~belethapo@replaced-ip) (Read error: No route to host)
2835[22:21:37] *** Joins: bapophis__ (~belethapo@replaced-ip)
2836[22:21:46] *** Quits: Rembo (Rembo@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
2837[22:21:59] <jhutchins_wk> paraxic: maybe you're getting utf16.
2838[22:22:09] <paraxic> ?
2839[22:22:31] *** Quits: Kruppt (~Kruppt@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2840[22:22:33] *** Quits: Ralin3 (~Ralin3@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2841[22:22:33] *** Ralin3_ is now known as Ralin3
2842[22:22:42] *** Quits: ArchDuke (~ArchDuke@replaced-ip) (Read error: No route to host)
2843[22:23:01] *** Quits: shellclear (~shellclea@replaced-ip) (Quit: shellclear)
2844[22:23:16] *** Quits: Smithe (~Smithe@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2845[22:23:34] *** Joins: ArchDuke (~ArchDuke@replaced-ip)
2846[22:23:39] *** Joins: Darcidride_ (~Darcidrid@replaced-ip)
2847[22:23:50] *** Quits: ogny (~orkun@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2848[22:23:51] <jhutchins_wk> !fr
2849[22:23:51] <dpkg> Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
2850[22:26:49] *** Quits: Darby_Crash (~Darby_Cra@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2851[22:27:39] *** Quits: azur_kind (~azur_kind@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2852[22:27:41] *** Joins: inaki (~inaki@replaced-ip)
2853[22:27:55] <megaTherion> jhutchins_wk: btw. I asked in #systemd and removing the / from the fstab fixed the issue
2854[22:28:41] <jhutchins_wk> megaTherion: Great. I figured you were going to have to get deeper into systemd. Your system sounds nothing like a stock debian system.
2855[22:28:52] *** Joins: pacha (~user@replaced-ip)
2856[22:29:02] *** Quits: gnuvegan (~gnuvegan@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2857[22:29:18] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)
2858[22:29:45] *** Joins: nomic (~nomic4@replaced-ip)
2859[22:30:04] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip)
2860[22:30:06] <megaTherion> jhutchins_wk: it isnt... I changed it but well its like just 2 changes not more ;)
2861[22:30:10] <jhutchins_wk> megaTherion: You know your certificate is revoked?
2862[22:30:12] <megaTherion> once its booting up.. its stock again :p
2863[22:30:16] <megaTherion> yeah
2864[22:30:20] <megaTherion> I hate certs
2865[22:30:30] *** Quits: nomic (~nomic4@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
2866[22:30:35] <jhutchins_wk> megaTherion: letsencrypt works pretty well.
2867[22:30:43] <megaTherion> I know I've to migrate... just no time...
2868[22:30:54] <megaTherion> its on the TODO list but not on the first 5 points ;)
2869[22:30:55] <shtrb> certificate ?
2870[22:30:59] *** Quits: emdee (~noEmail@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2871[22:31:04] <megaTherion> certs suck anyways, CAs suck too - the whole idea sucks
2872[22:31:04] *** Quits: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2873[22:31:14] <megaTherion> its just eyewash
2874[22:31:18] <qman__> it takes some up front work but letsencrypt is pretty great
2875[22:31:27] <qman__> I use dehydrated and wrote a hook for my DNS provider
2876[22:31:59] *** Quits: LtL (~ltl@replaced-ip) (Quit: LtL)
2877[22:32:20] *** Joins: kaosu (~kaosu@replaced-ip)
2878[22:33:03] *** Joins: lingkhang (~lingkhang@replaced-ip)
2879[22:34:42] <jhutchins_wk> certbot's in Debian.
2880[22:34:42] *** Quits: Ericounet (~Ericounet@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2881[22:36:01] <qman__> I haven't used certbot, but the acme.sh tool is pretty bad compared to dehydrated
2882[22:36:01] *** Quits: KnoP (~andreas@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2883[22:36:21] <jhutchins_wk> ,v dehydrated
2884[22:36:22] <judd> Package: dehydrated on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 0.3.1-3~bpo8+1; stretch: 0.3.1-3+deb9u1; stretch-backports: 0.4.0-2~bpo9+1; buster: 0.4.0-2; sid: 0.4.0-2
2885[22:37:04] * annadane hands jhutchins_wk a glass of water
2886[22:37:07] *** Joins: rob_debian (~bsd@replaced-ip)
2887[22:37:16] <rob_debian> Hi all
2888[22:39:24] *** Quits: t0aster0ven (~iaeofjgsk@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
2889[22:41:31] *** Joins: JackK (~jack@replaced-ip)
2890[22:42:24] *** czesmir_ is now known as czesmir
2891[22:42:48] *** Quits: scootypuff (~barbs@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2892[22:43:59] *** Quits: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2893[22:44:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1707
2894[22:44:23] *** Quits: Fusl (fusl@replaced-ip) (Quit: K-Lined)
2895[22:44:46] *** Quits: zapperoo_ (~ZaP@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2896[22:44:54] *** Joins: Fusl (fusl@replaced-ip)
2897[22:44:58] *** Quits: Fusl (fusl@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
2898[22:44:58] *** Joins: Fusl (fusl@replaced-ip)
2899[22:45:04] *** Joins: scootypuff (~barbs@replaced-ip)
2900[22:45:08] *** Joins: DammitJim (~DammitJim@replaced-ip)
2901[22:45:38] *** Quits: Tigerbot_Hesh (~TigerbotH@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2902[22:45:40] *** Joins: t0aster0ven (~iaeofjgsk@replaced-ip)
2903[22:46:30] *** Joins: Tigerbot_Hesh (~TigerbotH@replaced-ip)
2904[22:47:58] *** Joins: dolphin5 (~dolphin@replaced-ip)
2905[22:48:08] <shtrb> ,v firefox
2906[22:48:09] <judd> Package: firefox on amd64 -- jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.0-1~bpo80+1; sid: 57.0.3-1; experimental: 58.0~b4-1
2907[22:48:52] <jelly> you may be looking for firefox-esr
2908[22:48:57] *** Joins: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip)
2909[22:49:18] <shtrb> I think firefox should be nuked (sbecause of spyware ) - replaced-url
2910[22:49:37] <shtrb> ,v firefox-esr
2911[22:49:38] <judd> Package: firefox-esr on amd64 -- jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.1.0esr-1~bpo80+1; jessie: 52.5.0esr-1~deb8u1; stretch: 52.5.0esr-1~deb9u1; buster: 52.5.0esr-1; wheezy-security: 52.5.2esr-1~deb7u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 52.5.2esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 52.5.2esr-1~deb8u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 52.5.2esr-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 52.5.2esr-1~deb9u1; sid: 52.5.3esr-1
2912[22:49:50] <shtrb> jessie affected also
2913[22:49:57] <jelly> I think you should reconsider your usage of word "spyware"
2914[22:50:09] <annadane> well, and debian also has modified versions of vanilla 'fox anyway
2915[22:50:29] <annadane> granted, they're not *extensive* and they try to be as close to upstream as possible
2916[22:50:46] *** Quits: kaosu (~kaosu@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2917[22:50:47] <shtrb> I think that firefox 52 and up should be removed from debian , because they uploaded memory dumps to their servers when the user was not expecting that
2918[22:51:06] <shtrb> is better jelly ?
2919[22:51:08] <booyah> shtrb: is this active in debian's version?
2920[22:51:17] <booyah> that seems like a huge privacy violation
2921[22:51:23] *** Joins: owl_tech (~owl@replaced-ip)
2922[22:51:28] <shtrb> it hit top news few minutes ago
2923[22:51:30] <annadane> also i get page doesn't exist on your link
2924[22:51:49] <annadane> also it's possible esr isn't affected anyway
2925[22:52:06] <annadane> also, that doesn't mean "firefox should be removed from debian"
2926[22:52:14] <shtrb> replaced-url
2927[22:52:35] <jelly> shtrb, are you positive debian's builds of firefox-esr are affected?
2928[22:52:39] *** Joins: cthonic (~otho@replaced-ip)
2929[22:52:43] <shtrb> no
2930[22:53:04] <booyah> jelly: seems worthwhile for security team to investigate, can someone notify them?
2931[22:53:14] <kale> if i put something in /etc/rc.local will it only run once when the system is done booting?
2932[22:53:25] <jelly> shtrb, if it's a known issue, an unintended one, and it's being fixed, what purpose would removing software from Debian serve?
2933[22:53:26] *** Joins: rungcc (~rungcc@replaced-ip)
2934[22:53:36] *** Quits: rungcc (~rungcc@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2935[22:53:44] *** Quits: nick20 (~nick20@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2936[22:54:01] <jelly> booyah, I bet they read news.
2937[22:54:18] *** Joins: Tramp (~Tramp@replaced-ip)
2938[22:54:54] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)
2939[22:55:33] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip)
2940[22:55:39] <annadane> "collected by accident" and "will delete" doesn't seem to coincide very well with "please remove this key package from debian, affecting millions of users"
2941[22:55:46] <jelly> booyah, anyone can notify firefox maintainers by filing a bug report.
2942[22:55:54] <annadane> if anything, there would be a fork if firefox were being truly malicious
2943[22:55:59] *** Joins: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip)
2944[22:56:08] <annadane> some people do use waterfox and such
2945[22:56:11] *** Joins: fsr (~user@replaced-ip)
2946[22:56:13] *** Joins: Sispeo (~dev@replaced-ip)
2947[22:56:19] *** Parts: fsr (~user@replaced-ip) ()
2948[22:56:31] <annadane> s/firefox/mozilla
2949[22:57:08] *** Quits: Nh3xus (~Nh3xus@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2950[22:57:23] *** Quits: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2951[22:57:34] *** Joins: Guest35995 (~Samurai@replaced-ip)
2952[22:57:54] *** Quits: glebihan (~glebihan@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2953[22:58:04] *** Joins: Halcy0n (~Halcy0n@replaced-ip)
2954[22:58:12] *** Quits: yokel (~yokel@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2955[22:58:22] *** Joins: TwoTwenty (~mgregoir@replaced-ip)
2956[22:59:13] <TwoTwenty> is the Kaiser patch applied in the latest stable kernel ?
2957[22:59:18] <Guest35995> hi
2958[22:59:23] *** Quits: Ltem (~ltem@replaced-ip) (Quit: good night)
2959[22:59:43] <jelly> TwoTwenty, in debian? No
2960[22:59:45] *** Quits: DieMoesch (~thomas@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2961[22:59:51] <_KaszpiR_> hardly
2962[22:59:54] <TwoTwenty> no?
2963[22:59:57] <_KaszpiR_> especially in stable
2964[22:59:59] *** Quits: Antoninus (~Antoninus@replaced-ip) (Quit: Antoninus)
2965[23:00:06] *** Joins: daedok (~daedok@replaced-ip)
2966[23:00:07] <TwoTwenty> the patch was accepted into mainline kernel oct31
2967[23:00:26] *** Quits: Guest35995 (~Samurai@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2968[23:00:29] *** Joins: yokel (~yokel@replaced-ip)
2969[23:00:32] <TwoTwenty> hxxps://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/daveh/x86-kaiser.git/
2970[23:00:38] *** Quits: _0x4B1 (~Thereisno@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2971[23:00:42] <_KaszpiR_> but it's mainline, not stable
2972[23:00:42] *** Quits: jehorn (~jehorn___@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
2973[23:00:58] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Quit: jackNemrod)
2974[23:00:59] <TwoTwenty> yes I understand but it could have been back ported since that time
2975[23:01:14] <TwoTwenty> so I just want to know if your certain ? or assuming ?
2976[23:01:34] *** Quits: grepper (~grepper@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2977[23:01:35] *** Quits: martinus__ (~martin@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2978[23:01:37] <_KaszpiR_> assuming, knowing how slow debian is
2979[23:01:38] <jelly> TwoTwenty, I'm pretty fucking sure it's not in Debian's 4.9
2980[23:01:44] *** Quits: Bombo (atom@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2981[23:01:58] *** Joins: rohff_user_17 (~125_ident@replaced-ip)
2982[23:02:03] <jelly> it's still getting fixes in upstream longterm 4.14.whatever
2983[23:02:03] <TwoTwenty> ok I assume the same but a NO is not assumptive
2984[23:02:33] <jelly> you don't have to assume, look at package changelogs.
2985[23:02:46] <TwoTwenty> for debian;s kernel ?
2986[23:02:48] *** Joins: Bombo (atom@replaced-ip)
2987[23:02:51] *** Quits: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
2988[23:02:51] <daedok> hello. I try to create startup script by this instruction: replaced-url
2989[23:02:54] <jelly> yes.
2990[23:02:55] *** Joins: Crypto (~Uberius@replaced-ip)
2991[23:03:12] <annadane> apt changelog linux-image-amd64 i believe
2992[23:03:29] <annadane> well, not if you don't have amd64, but the arch that you use
2993[23:03:38] <owl_tech> no luck installing any distro of debian in Acer Aspire M1610...Kernel Panic every time....Very interesting...this is just a comment
2994[23:03:48] <owl_tech> :)
2995[23:04:01] <owl_tech> i will try Koppix
2996[23:04:11] <TwoTwenty> jelly: do you have a good source for the kernel change logs from the web rather then apt change
2997[23:04:24] <annadane> TwoTwenty, all that is on the kernel's site
2998[23:04:29] <annadane> which i believe is just kernel.org?
2999[23:04:38] <jelly> TwoTwenty, no, but start at tracker.debian.org/linux
3000[23:04:51] *** Quits: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3001[23:05:04] <shtrb> owl_tech , have you tried accessing one of the kernel channels (maybe someone will know what you need to setup to avoid that oops)
3002[23:05:19] *** Quits: chele (~chele@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3003[23:05:42] <jelly> TwoTwenty, which debian release are you using?
3004[23:05:50] <TwoTwenty> stretch
3005[23:05:54] <owl_tech> shtrb, i will try knoppix 7.2. if it don't work, i will ask there...thanks
3006[23:05:59] <TwoTwenty> and jessie
3007[23:06:15] *** Quits: scream (~scream@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3008[23:06:21] *** Quits: rohff_user_17 (~125_ident@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
3009[23:06:41] *** Quits: holden- (~holden-@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3010[23:06:50] <annadane> hopefully not both on one computer
3011[23:06:58] <annadane> unless it's a dual boot
3012[23:06:58] *** Joins: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip)
3013[23:07:13] *** Joins: grepper (~grepper@replaced-ip)
3014[23:07:29] <jelly> TwoTwenty, apt changelog linux-image-$(uname -r) ought to work
3015[23:07:57] <jelly> not in jessie tho, but there's aptitude changelog ... there
3016[23:08:11] <TwoTwenty> yes but my question was for a web resource since I am not near a debian console ATM
3017[23:08:51] *** rcdilorenzo_ is now known as rcdilorenzo
3018[23:09:31] <TwoTwenty> jelly: I specifically requested from apt change and not from apt change if you could post me all the change logs from my current kernel to the current ;) that would be great
3019[23:09:44] <TwoTwenty> jelly: from the web* and not...
3020[23:09:53] *** Joins: phorce1_home (~gvl2@replaced-ip)
3021[23:10:24] <jelly> TwoTwenty, did you open the tracker page?
3022[23:10:31] *** Joins: rohff_user_183 (~53_ident_@replaced-ip)
3023[23:11:02] <TwoTwenty> jelly: yes
3024[23:11:15] *** Joins: TvL2386_ (~tom@replaced-ip)
3025[23:11:30] *** Quits: KidBeta (~textual@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
3026[23:11:30] *** Joins: KidBeta (~textual@replaced-ip)
3027[23:11:33] <TwoTwenty> jelly: I guess second question whats the CVE for the kaiser kaslr patch ?
3028[23:11:59] *** Quits: domble (~domble@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3029[23:12:11] *** Quits: Trieste (~T@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
3030[23:12:17] <jelly> TwoTwenty, CVEs are assigned to vulnerabilities, not their workarounds. The vuln. is still under embargo.
3031[23:12:22] *** Quits: TvL2386 (~tom@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
3032[23:12:28] <TwoTwenty> maybe replaced-url
3033[23:12:43] <jelly> and judging by the little info available there may be more than one
3034[23:13:16] <TwoTwenty> well the patch is old
3035[23:13:30] <TwoTwenty> this security problem was known in 2016 black hat conference
3036[23:13:34] <jelly> it's not old at all
3037[23:13:47] <TwoTwenty> the patch was accepted to the mainline kernel 2 months ago
3038[23:13:56] <TwoTwenty> the public disclosure for intel was only 1 day ago
3039[23:14:07] <TwoTwenty> intel CEO dumped stock mid december
3040[23:14:09] <jelly> that was first accepted version of that patch
3041[23:14:10] <TwoTwenty> ;)
3042[23:14:18] *** Quits: Crypto (~Uberius@replaced-ip) (Quit: quit)
3043[23:14:22] <kale> where would i place a script that i want to run at boot?
3044[23:14:23] <TwoTwenty> I understand that its still in the works
3045[23:14:26] <jelly> TwoTwenty, none of that affected Debian specifically
3046[23:14:49] <TwoTwenty> jelly: to be transparent what I want to know is when the patch and the performance hit might have occurred
3047[23:14:55] <TwoTwenty> jelly: or may have
3048[23:15:08] <jelly> it has not "occured" yet
3049[23:15:20] <TwoTwenty> jelly: are you certain?
3050[23:15:48] *** Quits: killian99 (~killian99@replaced-ip) (Quit: Quitte)
3051[23:16:11] <TwoTwenty> jelly: replaced-url
3052[23:16:34] *** Parts: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip) ("Leaving")
3053[23:16:48] *** Joins: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip)
3054[23:16:55] <TwoTwenty> jelly: that suggests to me that the patch that does hit performance did occur and has been applied
3055[23:16:57] <jelly> TwoTwenty, it that a random CVE that mentions kaslr, or what?
3056[23:17:48] *** Joins: sparky4 (~sparky4@replaced-ip)
3057[23:17:48] *** Quits: pacha (~user@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3058[23:17:49] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)
3059[23:18:02] <somiaj> TwoTwenty: that paticular CVE was introduced in a kernel newer than stable.
3060[23:18:13] *** Joins: lmw (~lmw@replaced-ip)
3061[23:18:14] *** Quits: RebelCoder (~RebelCode@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
3062[23:18:14] <somiaj> TwoTwenty: the page even mentions that fact and that is why it is fixed.
3063[23:18:15] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip)
3064[23:18:16] <TwoTwenty> jelly: not random
3065[23:18:34] <jelly> TwoTwenty, how did you pick it then, and did you look at the patch?
3066[23:18:49] <jelly> TwoTwenty, it's very, very small and fixes one specific leak.
3067[23:19:01] <TwoTwenty> jelly: no I first found the original patch made by the autrian university from github
3068[23:19:01] *** Joins: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip)
3069[23:19:04] *** Quits: geri (4a798963@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3070[23:19:14] <TwoTwenty> jelly: then brought to the kernel git server
3071[23:19:26] <TwoTwenty> jelly: which apparently has the performance hit
3072[23:19:42] *** Quits: LucaTM (~LucaTM@replaced-ip) (Quit: To infinity and beyond...)
3073[23:19:59] <TwoTwenty> jelly: replaced-url
3074[23:20:00] <TwoTwenty> replaced-url
3075[23:20:00] <TwoTwenty> replaced-url
3076[23:20:13] <jelly> TwoTwenty, at the bottom of replaced-url
3077[23:20:15] *** Quits: wildstar (~wildstar@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
3078[23:20:18] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
3079[23:20:26] <shtrb> jelly are FF patches are privacy related ?
3080[23:20:27] <jelly> TwoTwenty, not the same patch. not the right cve
3081[23:20:30] *** Quits: barbarinfourchu (~barbarinf@replaced-ip) (Quit: Quit)
3082[23:20:35] *** Joins: glebihan (~glebihan@replaced-ip)
3083[23:20:37] <TwoTwenty> jelly: ok
3084[23:20:41] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip)
3085[23:20:43] <TwoTwenty> jelly: so then your certain ?
3086[23:20:49] <annadane> we need #debian-conspiracy-theorists
3087[23:21:29] <jelly> TwoTwenty, I'm certain you need to be more careful investigating CVEs.
3088[23:21:36] *** Joins: wildstar (~wildstar@replaced-ip)
3089[23:21:41] <TwoTwenty> jelly: yes I looked for kaslr but I cannot find that the actual kaiser patch is applied
3090[23:22:04] <jelly> so yes, you just picked a random CVE mentioning kaslr...
3091[23:22:13] <TwoTwenty> well in mainline kernel it is obviously but I cannot find it in debian, I just want certainty here it is a sensitive matter.
3092[23:22:40] <annadane> you want certainty of what? that it will be addressed or whether it's already been applied to the 4.9 kernel which brings about a performance hit?
3093[23:22:41] <jelly> KASLR has been broken dozens of times and more than one security analyst has deemed it basically useless
3094[23:22:48] <TwoTwenty> I do not know a CVE has been supplied for the specific problem kaiser patches
3095[23:23:26] <jelly> TwoTwenty, I suggest patience and not panicking.
3096[23:23:29] <TwoTwenty> but the patch will be bakcported to supported kernels obviously
3097[23:24:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1701
3098[23:24:22] *** Quits: ramshadow (ramshadow@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
3099[23:24:28] <TwoTwenty> jelly: you assume again.
3100[23:24:39] * annadane smashes head against desk.
3101[23:24:58] <TwoTwenty> jelly: as long as your certain and not assuming then I'll assume your logic good, sorry to be a pain.
3102[23:25:03] *** Quits: unicron_ (~unicron@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
3103[23:25:30] <TwoTwenty> jelly: assume I am panicking that is ;) since I am not
3104[23:25:32] *** Joins: ramshadow (ramshadow@replaced-ip)
3105[23:25:39] <lmw> Where's kernel-package in Stretch?
3106[23:25:51] <annadane> lmw, what do you mean by "where", specifically
3107[23:26:04] <jelly> TwoTwenty, I'm absolutely certain Debian's kernel team has not silently backported a rather complex and intrusive patchset to two different longterm kernels, 3.16 and 4.9 series.
3108[23:26:09] *** Joins: unicron_ (~unicron@replaced-ip)
3109[23:26:12] <lmw> apt says there's no installation candidate for kernel-package.
3110[23:26:15] <lmw> I'm running Debian 9
3111[23:26:23] <somiaj> lmw: if trying to build a kernel, I hear it is better to use the 'make deb-pkg' in the main kernel tree over using kernel-package.
3112[23:26:24] <annadane> lmw, give us your output to paste.debian.net
3113[23:26:33] <jelly> lmw, it's not there. use "make deb-pkg" probably.
3114[23:26:35] <towo`> there is no need for kernel-package
3115[23:26:54] <jelly> ,v kernel-package
3116[23:26:55] <judd> Package: kernel-package on amd64 -- wheezy: 12.036+nmu3; jessie: 13.014+nmu1; buster: 13.018+nmu1; sid: 13.018+nmu1
3117[23:26:56] <shtrb> lmw, don't forget to remove debug symbols if you don't need them
3118[23:26:58] *** Quits: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3119[23:27:01] <somiaj> lmw: replaced-url
3120[23:27:08] <jelly> annadane, no need for output, it's really not there.
3121[23:27:14] <annadane> fair enough
3122[23:27:24] *** Joins: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip)
3123[23:27:27] <annadane> i just didn't know what they were trying to do
3124[23:27:49] <lmw> It's in buster/testing and sid ... but in stretch. And you tell me I should use "make deb-pkg" ... what now? Are you kidding me or so? It's a serious question.
3125[23:27:51] *** Joins: polardroid (polardroid@replaced-ip)
3126[23:28:05] <jelly> well they're not going to boil eggs using kernel-package are they
3127[23:28:06] *** Joins: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip)
3128[23:28:29] <somiaj> lmw: we aren't kidding you and the link I pasted has the bug why it was removed from stretch.
3129[23:28:32] <jelly> lmw, it's a serious answer.
3130[23:28:33] *** Joins: stoilkov (~stoilkov@replaced-ip)
3131[23:29:00] *** Joins: JustStephIt (~JustSteph@replaced-ip)
3132[23:29:10] <lmw> weird
3133[23:29:24] <towo`> and make deb-pkg is doing a better job than make-kpkg ever has
3134[23:29:48] <lmw> Why are you still providing kernel-package in future versions then if I may ask?
3135[23:30:03] *** Quits: Fusl (fusl@replaced-ip) (Max SendQ exceeded)
3136[23:30:23] *** Joins: Herr (~Alf@replaced-ip)
3137[23:30:37] <jelly> lmw, those are not future versions, those are development and testing branches. There's no promise of it appearing in Debian 10.
3138[23:30:37] <towo`> i do not providing kernel-package
3139[23:30:46] *** Joins: Fusl (fusl@replaced-ip)
3140[23:30:49] *** Quits: jayarcs (~jayarcs@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3141[23:30:58] <lmw> jelly: Okay, possible future versions then.
3142[23:31:10] *** Quits: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3143[23:31:12] <jelly> it might possibly be fixed.
3144[23:31:18] <jelly> :-)
3145[23:31:28] *** Herr is now known as Ruebezahl
3146[23:31:30] *** Quits: DammitJim (~DammitJim@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3147[23:31:32] <lmw> The words .. :D
3148[23:31:46] *** Joins: gnif (~geoff@replaced-ip)
3149[23:31:59] *** Parts: gnif (~geoff@replaced-ip) ()
3150[23:31:59] <lmw> But thanks for answering my questions.
3151[23:32:30] *** Joins: jehorn (~jehorn___@replaced-ip)
3152[23:32:39] *** Quits: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3153[23:32:52] *** Quits: zarzar (~zarzar@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3154[23:33:17] <jelly> there's all sorts of buggy crap in unstable and testing.
3155[23:33:48] <lmw> "crap" ...
3156[23:33:58] *** Quits: towo` (~towo@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3157[23:34:17] <annadane> sort of depends on the package but yeah
3158[23:34:30] *** Quits: amanualgoldstein (~thom@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3159[23:34:52] *** Joins: Trieste (~T@replaced-ip)
3160[23:35:17] <jelly> yes, crap, after second or third time getting broken header packages out of a tool, I reserve the right not to call it "software"
3161[23:35:26] <kale> lmw: make deb-pkg worked fine for me on 4.14
3162[23:35:53] <lmw> jelly: You call unstable software crap? Wow!
3163[23:35:55] <jelly> you can ellipsize all you want
3164[23:36:04] *** Joins: amanualgoldstein (~thom@replaced-ip)
3165[23:36:17] *** Joins: pkv (~pkv@replaced-ip)
3166[23:36:44] <jelly> lmw, I call some of the buggy packages in unstable and testing crap, not all.
3167[23:36:54] <kale> do i really need to write a systed init script to get something done at boot?
3168[23:36:56] *** Quits: err404 (~err404@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
3169[23:37:09] <annadane> what is that "something"
3170[23:37:13] <annadane> you can probably use a cronjob
3171[23:37:26] *** Quits: jehorn (~jehorn___@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3172[23:37:28] <jelly> !rc.local
3173[23:37:28] <dpkg> /etc/rc.local is a script called by /etc/init.d/rc.local which is typically one of the last things to be run during the boot sequence. If you have commands you want run at boot, edit /etc/rc.local (don't touch /etc/init.d/rc.local). rc.local is regarded as a hack, consider writing a real init script instead, ask me about <init.d>.
3174[23:37:40] <annadane> oh, really? TIL
3175[23:37:46] <lmw> I though rc.d died :D
3176[23:37:51] <jelly> heh. "real init script"
3177[23:38:02] <kale> jelly: it does not run rc.local
3178[23:38:12] <jelly> kale, orly?
3179[23:38:14] <kale> hey maybe i forgot my shebang
3180[23:38:52] <jelly> kale, pastebin the output of "service rc.local status"
3181[23:38:55] *** Quits: cthonic (~otho@replaced-ip) (Quit: leaving)
3182[23:39:03] <jelly> or "systemctl status rc.local"
3183[23:39:05] <jhutchins_wk> kale: full path?
3184[23:39:11] <kale> jelly: cannot do that :-)
3185[23:39:12] <lmw> Is it a script/program (whatever something is) that needs to be run on startup and will never be touched again while the system is on? Or do you plan to restart it sometimes or so?
3186[23:39:33] <jelly> kale, oh, then I cannot help further. Good luck tho!
3187[23:40:21] <kale> i am cloning a vm, mounting its root partition, adding a script som somewhere, then when the vm boots it updates and installs pacakges, removes rc.local and reboots. so since it is not there, then i cannot show it.
3188[23:40:22] *** Joins: krytarik (~krytarik@replaced-ip)
3189[23:40:23] <lmw> If first is what you want then a cronjob looks good.
3190[23:40:51] <lmw> If not have fun using systemd/rc.local and so on :)
3191[23:41:02] *** Quits: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
3192[23:41:17] <dondelelcaro> kale: sounds almost likely your'e looking for cloud-init
3193[23:42:34] *** Joins: JohnA (~john@replaced-ip)
3194[23:42:47] *** Quits: jhutchins_wk (~jonathan@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3195[23:43:17] *** Quits: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3196[23:43:21] *** Joins: emdee (~noEmail@replaced-ip)
3197[23:43:33] *** Joins: thedogcatcher (~thedogcat@replaced-ip)
3198[23:43:54] *** Joins: chrissl (~chris@replaced-ip)
3199[23:44:37] *** Joins: holden- (~holden-@replaced-ip)
3200[23:44:42] <jelly> ,i cloud-init
3201[23:44:44] <judd> Package cloud-init (admin, optional) in stretch/amd64: initialization system for infrastructure cloud instances. Version: 0.7.9-2; Size: 312.1k; Installed: 1381k; Homepage: replaced-url
3202[23:45:06] <lmw> Isn't launchpad.net Ubuntu?
3203[23:45:19] *** Joins: peter_thaler (2d387266@replaced-ip)
3204[23:45:28] <kale> dondelelcaro: looks interesting. i'll just see if it was because i missed shebang
3205[23:45:37] *** Joins: Lisa_ (4db2a246@replaced-ip)
3206[23:45:43] *** Quits: grepper (~grepper@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
3207[23:45:58] <annadane> i believe it is
3208[23:46:03] <annadane> sounds familiar
3209[23:46:09] <jelly> lmw, it often is, but one may host unrelated projects there as well
3210[23:46:49] <jelly> debian does not discriminate based on web page hosting of project upstream
3211[23:46:49] <lmw> Ah ok
3212[23:46:50] *** Quits: amanualgoldstein (~thom@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
3213[23:47:02] <lmw> I didn't wanted to discrimnate something or so
3214[23:47:12] <peter_thaler> does there exist a nice framebuffer (directfb, etc) program to monitor routers/firewalls?
3215[23:47:41] <daedok> what i need to use 'git' commands in startup shell script?
3216[23:47:51] *** Joins: keith20 (~keith20@replaced-ip)
3217[23:48:10] *** Joins: amanualgoldstein (~thom@replaced-ip)
3218[23:48:13] *** Quits: teej (uid154177@replaced-ip) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
3219[23:48:29] *** Quits: keith20 (~keith20@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
3220[23:48:37] *** Quits: leerg319 (~alexey@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3221[23:48:40] <Lisa_> Hi, are AMD and / or ARM affected too? Some say yes, some no.....
3222[23:49:04] <kale> yep, it was a missing shebang, i'll take a look at cloud-init though
3223[23:49:22] *** Joins: keith20 (~keith20@replaced-ip)
3224[23:49:25] <lmw> Lisa_: Affected by what?
3225[23:49:34] *** Quits: keith20 (~keith20@replaced-ip) (Client Quit)
3226[23:49:35] *** Quits: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3227[23:49:49] <dondelelcaro> daedok: nothing besides git installed. But what are you trying to do?
3228[23:50:15] <Lisa_> lmw KPTI
3229[23:50:33] <tw> If you specifically mean the speculative cache hw bug, no.
3230[23:51:18] <Lisa_> Yes, thank you
3231[23:51:22] <tw> amd doesn't implement speculative references. afaik, neither does arm.
3232[23:51:39] *** Joins: grepper (~grepper@replaced-ip)
3233[23:51:40] *** Joins: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip)
3234[23:52:02] <Lisa_> replaced-url
3235[23:52:27] *** Joins: OS-34800 (~OS-34800@replaced-ip)
3236[23:52:32] *** Joins: misty5 (~pokemongi@replaced-ip)
3237[23:52:42] <tabakhase> Lisa_ "unclear"... or rather, not directly seems to be the case "AMD chips are affected by some but not all of the vulnerabilities. AMD said that there is a "near zero risk to AMD processors at this time." British chipmaker ARM told news site Axios prior to this report that some of its processors, including its Cortex-A chips, are affected." replaced-url
3238[23:52:43] <tabakhase> every-intel-chip-since-1995-arm-processors-vulnerable/
3239[23:52:51] <tabakhase> and thats wayy more text than expected o.O
3240[23:53:21] <daedok> dondelelcaro, I try to execute commit and push script on start up. When i execute script directly - all ok. But when i execute it via systemctl it eecute only not git part of script
3241[23:53:28] <Lisa_> Thank you! tabakhase
3242[23:53:29] *** Joins: keith20 (~keith20@replaced-ip)
3243[23:53:32] <annadane> i expect approximately 958498674987948 questions about this in the next month
3244[23:53:33] <jelly> I guess it's probably useless to try stop people from discussing the suddenly popular patchset in here.
3245[23:53:55] *** Quits: lnxslck (~LnxSlck@replaced-ip) (Quit: WeeChat 1.4)
3246[23:54:22] <Lisa_> jelly sorry! I just want to be sure. There a many false informations atm
3247[23:54:35] <Lisa_> I trust this Channel
3248[23:54:38] <lmw> Doesn't Intel has a "secuity issue" every month? Intel IME, Secure Boot, and now this ...
3249[23:54:42] *** Joins: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip)
3250[23:55:07] <annadane> possibly but if you want to discuss intel in general you should probably go to #debian-offtopic
3251[23:55:12] *** Quits: Evol (~no@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3252[23:55:24] <Lisa_> No, I do not want to.
3253[23:55:39] <Lisa_> Is there a patch available for Debain?
3254[23:55:41] <s7r> what/where is the CVE for latest intel cpu hardware bug?
3255[23:55:47] <lmw> Lisa_: no.
3256[23:55:54] <lmw> Lisa_: Even not for Windows and Mac OS yet.
3257[23:56:07] <Lisa_> Mac has one, afaik
3258[23:56:10] <tabakhase> s7r listed replaced-url
3259[23:56:41] <s7r> what is the performance regression on debian? any preliminary results (stable)?
3260[23:56:49] *** Quits: inspectorcluseau (~Inspector@replaced-ip) (Quit: Ex-Chat)
3261[23:57:22] <lmw> Some Phoronixcs site made some benchmarks with and without the patch, I cannot find the site anymore. But with the patch the disk I/O will be about 40% slower ...
3262[23:57:54] <peter_thaler> any kind of program that patches together PNGs of graphs of network/system status from various sources and displays them on a framebuffer/embedded system display?
3263[23:58:17] *** Quits: Darcidride_ (~Darcidrid@replaced-ip) (Quit: Bye.)
3264[23:58:24] <tabakhase> belive thats a "noone can say" - affacted are syscalls/interupts... some of those first superdrama30% thingys are somewhat flawed...
3265[23:58:37] <s7r> lmw, seriously? 40% slower?
3266[23:58:43] <lmw> iirc es
3267[23:58:44] <lmw> *yes
3268[23:58:53] <annadane> well, best of course to not automatically believe everything the media says within the first few hours of reporting on a technical issue
3269[23:58:54] <s7r> that sucks
3270[23:59:01] *** Quits: nashimus (~nashimus@replaced-ip) (Quit: Leaving)
3271[23:59:06] <jelly> peter_thaler, if you divorce "patch together images" from "display image on fb" you might use two tools, imagemagick's convert and an image viewer like fbi
3272[23:59:31] <peter_thaler> jelly, I know, I could do it myself. I'm just wondering if something like that exists already.
3273[23:59:43] *** Quits: Divergenz (~thisis@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
3274[23:59:43] *** Joins: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip)
3275[23:59:46] <annadane> and Lisa_, i was talking to lmw
3276[23:59:55] <jelly> sounds rather specific to exist already
↑top

Realtime Nick Name Ticker

People who Joins, Parts or Quits a chatroom

this is #debian an IRC-Channel at freenode (freenode IRC service closed 2021-06-01)