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• 15[00:04:55] <mnuhmnuh_> Paul--: min's called eth0; no prob. there's a grub commandline switch that you can use to toggle between each.
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• 45[00:16:55] <OS-29690> !luigi
• 46[00:16:55] <dpkg> somebody said luigi was mean and grean
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• 49[00:17:12] <OS-29690> !carol
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• 55[00:19:13] <alt0id> hey so how do i install the fresh-out-of-the-box mesa drivers?
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• 57[00:19:17] <alt0id> and set them up
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• 63[00:23:30] <alt0id> !nvidia dkms
• 64[00:23:30] <dpkg> For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist.
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• 79[00:31:00] <dTal> dpkg what about <contrib> and <non-free sources>
• 80[00:31:01] <dpkg> dTal: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface.
• 81[00:31:45] <dTal> dpkg what about <contrib> and <non-free sources>
• 82[00:31:46] <dpkg> i don't know, dTal
• 83[00:31:58] <dTal> but you said to ask
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• 95[00:38:21] <alt0id> dpkg: hey you seem to have a good grip on xorg.conf
• 96[00:38:21] <dpkg> I resemble that remark!
• 97[00:38:29] <alt0id> dpkg: hello
• 98[00:38:29] <dpkg> hi, alt0id
• 99[00:38:32] <alt0id> dpkg: test
• 100[00:38:32] <dpkg> Test failed.
• 101[00:38:38] <alt0id> dpkg: bot?
• 102[00:38:38] <dpkg> I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse).
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• 104[00:38:56] <alt0id> dpkg: how do i reconfigure xorg for nvidia
• 105[00:38:56] <dpkg> alt0id: are you using Windows?
• 106[00:38:59] <alt0id> dpkg: no
• 107[00:38:59] <dpkg> No Offense, or den norske debian kanalen #debian-no. For skandinaviske brukere av debian. It is the norwegian channel #debian-no for scandinavian users.
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• 109[00:39:07] <alt0id> dpkg: how do i reconfigure xorg for nvidia on debian 8
• 110[00:39:07] <dpkg> alt0id: I don't know, could you explain it?
• 111[00:39:11] <annadane> alt0id, please stop spamming the bot
• 112[00:39:26] <alt0id> annadane: do you maybe know how to set up xorg for a nvidia card?
• 113[00:39:44] <somiaj> !nvidia dkms
• 114[00:39:44] <dpkg> For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist.
• 115[00:40:04] <alt0id> somiaj: that didnt work
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• 120[00:41:46] <somiaj> there is a more detailed set of instructions on the wiki.
• 121[00:41:53] <somiaj> !dosen't work
• 122[00:41:59] <somiaj> !didn't work
• 123[00:41:59] <dpkg> "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>.
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• 125[00:42:14] <somiaj> To get better support, you need to describe what actually happend, etc.
• 126[00:42:30] <alt0id> somiaj: how do i upload that xord.conf.log thing?
• 127[00:42:44] <alt0id> on commandline
• 128[00:43:05] <LtL> alt0id: scp
• 129[00:43:18] <somiaj> alt0id: you can goto paste.debian.net and use the web interface, or install something like pastebinit
• 130[00:43:21] <somiaj> !pastebinit
• 131[00:43:22] <dpkg> A command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>.
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• 133[00:43:52] <somiaj> alt0id: also you are mixing two files, the config file, /etc/X11/xorg.conf (and all finles in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/*conf), and the log file, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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• 135[00:44:03] <LtL> alt0id: nevermind, thought you were doing something else, apologies.
• 136[00:44:28] <alt0id> somiaj: i cant start my GUI, im in commandline mode
• 137[00:44:29] <alt0id> on irssi
• 138[00:44:37] <awal1> why cp ~/aaa ... won't work and cp /home/username/aaa ... yeah?
• 139[00:44:39] <alt0id> thats my main issue right now lol
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• 142[00:45:21] <phogg> awal1: it's not clear what you're asking
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• 149[00:47:31] <awal1> "can not perform 'stat' on x-file. no such file or directory" phogg
• 150[00:48:01] <phogg> awal1: And what part of that do you need help with?
• 151[00:48:42] <awal1> I meant why cp force specifying /home/myusername/folder-x and don't understand ~/folder-x
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• 153[00:48:50] <mnuhmnuh_> awal1: does where you're copying aaa to exist? no permissions probs?
• 154[00:49:07] <awal1> mnuhmnuh_, no
• 155[00:49:19] <mnuhmnuh_> well ...
• 156[00:49:28] <phogg> awal1: you are probably not the user you think you are. Try: ls -ld ~
• 157[00:49:54] <mnuhmnuh_> no what?
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• 160[00:50:13] <awal1> phogg, i am the right user
• 161[00:50:38] <awal1> mnuhmnuh_, no permission issue and not file existing yet
• 162[00:51:03] <phogg> awal1: what exact command are you running? Don't give an approximation or an example.
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• 164[00:51:17] <Thyriaen> when installing debian9 on my x1 carbon mashine it tells me that it needs additional drivers in order to make wlan work - iwlwifi-8265-20 to 28 but the firmware package on the website only provides 21, 22 and 27 which is not enough for the installer ( if i insert it it just keeps asking for more :p )
• 165[00:51:22] <Thyriaen> what can i do / where do i get the rest ?
• 166[00:52:38] <somiaj> alt0id: then use pastebinit
• 167[00:53:01] <somiaj> awal1: be clearer, what is the exact command that doesn't work, and what is the error.
• 168[00:53:11] <Thyriaen> and how can i install them afterwards ( when debian is already installed ? )
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• 170[00:53:22] <somiaj> awal1: you need to includes recruves, -r, with a directory
• 171[00:53:23] <alt0id> somiaj: isnt there a nc -vn 9999 somewebsite.com solution for us cmd peasants?
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• 173[00:53:45] <alt0id> cat test.txt || nc -vn 999 somewebsite.com
• 174[00:53:45] <somiaj> alt0id: usnure, I'd just use pastebinit and make the post over HTTP instead of telnet
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• 179[00:54:21] <alt0id> somiaj: I cant open my browser because my xorg.conf is screwed up!
• 180[00:54:38] <alt0id> somiaj: im in ctrl+alt+f1 mode
• 181[00:54:43] <alt0id> on my ssh box
• 182[00:54:49] <phogg> alt0id: you can | nc termbin.com 9999
• 183[00:54:56] <alt0id> thankyou
• 184[00:55:05] <somiaj> alt0id: so use pastebinit, cat foo | pastebinit
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• 186[00:55:18] <somiaj> not sure how many times I need to repeate that.
• 187[00:55:26] <somiaj> or pastebinit Xorg.0.log
• 188[00:55:34] <mnuhmnuh_> pastebinit $filename
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• 191[00:56:10] <awal1> phogg, somiaj, I am just trying to install 'adapta gtk' theme from git in my sid vm. As root "cp -r /home/debian/Descargas/adapta-gtk-theme-master /usr/share/themes" works but "cp -r ~/Descargas/adapta-gtk-theme-master /usr/share/themes" and I get that error "can't perform 'stat' on ~/Descargas/adapta-gtk-theme-master" just not clear for me why /home/username vs ~/
• 192[00:56:36] <alt0id> somiaj: termbin.com/5uhm
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• 194[00:56:52] <awal1> ~/ wont work ^
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• 196[00:57:32] <phogg> awal1: It should work if your HOME path is set correctly
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• 198[00:57:44] <phogg> awal1: is your shell something unusual or are you using bash?
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• 200[00:58:04] <awal1> phogg, bash yeah, and correct path
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• 202[00:59:01] <d3c0> !hi
• 203[00:59:01] <dpkg> hello, d3c0
• 204[00:59:03] <awal1> As root "cp -r /home/debian/Descargas/adapta-gtk-theme-master /usr/share/themes" works , but "cp -r ~/Descargas/adapta-gtk-theme-master /usr/share/themes"doesn't work
• 205[00:59:10] <awal1> clearer sentence :P
• 206[00:59:18] <d3c0> how update the lastest version Nginx
• 207[00:59:19] <d3c0> ?
• 208[00:59:27] <alt0id> anything
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• 210[00:59:34] <somiaj> awal1: maybe something with your shell, what does 'echo ~' give
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• 213[01:00:02] <d3c0> I need this version "nginx-1.12.2"
• 214[01:00:05] <somiaj> ,v nginx
• 215[01:00:08] <judd> Package: nginx on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy4; wheezy-security: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy4+deb7u1; wheezy-backports: 1.6.2-5+deb8u2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.6.2-5+deb8u4; jessie-proposed-updates: 1.6.2-5+deb8u5; jessie-security: 1.6.2-5+deb8u5; sid: 1.10.1-1; jessie-backports: 1.10.3-1+deb9u1~bpo8+2; stretch: 1.10.3-1+deb9u1; stretch-security: 1.10.3-1+deb9u1; stretch-backports:
• 216[01:00:09] <judd> 1.13.3-1~bpo9+1; buster: 1.13.6-2; sid: 1.13.6-2
• 217[01:00:09] <awal1> somiaj, echo ~ ---» /home/debian
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• 219[01:00:17] <alt0id> anyways if somiaj cant help can someone else? i got this error when running startx: replaced-url
• 220[01:00:26] <castleguard> what do I type from command line to install from a PPA (I'm in the same dir as the PPA)
• 221[01:00:31] <castleguard> *pwd
• 222[01:00:51] <somiaj> d3c0: what version of debian do you run?
• 223[01:00:51] <d3c0> judd: I already using the deb9
• 224[01:00:53] <judd> No package named 'already' was found in stretch/amd64.
• 225[01:01:00] <d3c0> debian 9
• 226[01:01:19] <mnuhmnuh_> awal1: your HOME should be /home/Descargas, not /home/debian/Descargas
• 227[01:01:27] <somiaj> d3c0: stretch-backports contains 1.13.3, that may work for you. Note stretch-backports won't get as timely security updates if that matters to you.
• 228[01:01:28] <alt0id> somiaj: nothing?
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• 230[01:01:36] <phogg> awal1: the fact that the ~ is present in your error message means it was not expanded by the shell.
• 231[01:01:57] <d3c0> stretch-backports
• 232[01:02:05] <alt0id> somiaj: replaced-url
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• 234[01:02:30] <awal1> mnuhmnuh_, huh?
• 235[01:02:33] <somiaj> alt0id: it says error parsing the config file, maybe share your config file,
• 236[01:02:39] <alt0id> somiaj: ok
• 237[01:03:19] <phogg> awal1: having a user named 'debian' is unusual
• 238[01:03:26] <alt0id> somiaj: replaced-url
• 239[01:03:41] <awal1> mnuhmnuh_, debian is my vm standard user
• 240[01:03:55] <mnuhmnuh_> awal1: you said "echo ~" == /home/debian
• 241[01:03:57] <d3c0> some time ago, used the backports, but I think I dont remember :D
• 242[01:04:00] <somiaj> alt0id: Why do you have such a complicated config file. I thought you said you followed the bots advise, the bot never said to write a config file like that.
• 243[01:04:08] <somiaj> !tell d3c0 about stretch-backports
• 244[01:04:13] <awal1> mnuhmnuh_, yeah
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• 247[01:04:46] <phogg> mnuhmnuh_: the problem is that tilde expansion doesn't occur; his error message *still has the ~ in it*.
• 248[01:04:48] <somiaj> d3c0: you can add stretch-backports to your sources.list then install ngnix from there. It will be a newer version that will work in stretch. You do loose timely security support with backports though, so be sure this is okay for the features you need in this newer version.
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• 251[01:05:02] <somiaj> awal1: are you putting any quotes around things?
• 252[01:05:07] <phogg> awal1: echo $HOME # is it also /home/debian ?
• 253[01:05:15] <phogg> I assume it must be or echo ~ would not work, but...
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• 255[01:05:34] <somiaj> phogg: echo ~ did return /home/debian already
• 256[01:05:34] <alt0id> somiaj: because i switched between a few graphics cards, also runned nvidia-xconfig
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• 259[01:05:45] <alt0id> maybe thats the problem. How do i set it up to normal
• 260[01:05:55] <awal1> somiaj, no quotes . phogg, sure
• 261[01:06:01] <alt0id> somiaj: based on what you've seen what should i do?
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• 263[01:06:09] <somiaj> alt0id: goto the debian wiki for the debian non-free driver. Remove your xorg.conf and any files in xorg.conf.d, and start over. Right now your issue is that config file (which you don't need)
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• 265[01:06:13] <awal1> phogg no problem with pathes
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• 267[01:06:30] <somiaj> alt0id: lsmod | grep nvidia (is the nvidia module correctly loaded?)
• 268[01:06:51] <awal1> echo $HOME # ---» /home/debian
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• 272[01:07:27] <somiaj> awal1: and echo $SHELL gives /bin/bash?
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• 274[01:07:44] <somiaj> I'm unsure why your shell is not correctly expanding ~ in this case.
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• 278[01:08:17] <phogg> as far as I know you can't disable ~ expansion in bash (but I am inquiring to find out if you can)
• 279[01:08:40] <somiaj> phogg: well echo ~ expanded correctly, so it is strange it is not also expanding for cp
• 280[01:08:59] <somiaj> awal1: echo ~/Descargas/adapta-gtk-theme-master
• 281[01:09:00] <phogg> somiaj: indeed... good point
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• 283[01:09:21] <somiaj> awal1: all we want to know is if the ~ expands correctly
• 284[01:09:55] <phogg> awal1: try running: bash --norc --noprofile and then repeating your cp attempt
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• 286[01:10:17] <awal1> somiaj, echo $SHELL ---» /bin/bash ---» echo ~/Descargas/adapta-gtk-theme-master /home/debian/Descargas/adapta-gtk-theme-master
• 287[01:10:22] <somiaj> awal1: are you typing this command in by hand, or is it in some script. Sometimes there is a race condition where the variables don't get expanded correctly (I ran into this issue with an rsync script a bit ago)
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• 289[01:10:31] <somiaj> awal1: the cp command.
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• 291[01:10:44] <awal1> phogg, I already copied and installing; I try that later :P
• 292[01:10:59] <awal1> somiaj, hand
• 293[01:11:44] <somiaj> awal1: try this command 'eval cp ~/Descargas/adapta-gtk-theme-master /tmp' -- or copy it to someplace you are okay with.
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• 297[01:12:18] <somiaj> if it works with the eval but not without the eval, there is some strange conditiong going on where the shell isn't properly expanding the variables before sending them to cp
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• 306[01:17:13] <awal1> somiaj, phogg, bash --norc --noprofile + cp ~/Descargas/adapta-gtk-theme-master /tmp and eval cp ~/Descargas/adapta-gtk-theme-master /tmp = same error:"can't perform 'stat' on /root/Descargas/adapta-gtk-theme-master. no such file or directory .
• 307[01:17:17] <awal1> cp -r /home/debian/Descargas/adapta-gtk-theme-master /tmp works
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• 309[01:17:43] <somiaj> awal1: pay attention to the error
• 310[01:18:14] <somiaj> awal1: in this case you ran the command as root, so ~, expanded to /root, this is not the same error ~/De.... and /root/Des... are different, and the issue is in how your shell is expanding ~
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• 312[01:19:03] <somiaj> i.e. your shell thinks ~/Des... = /root/Des.. and not /home/debian/Des...
• 313[01:19:20] <d3c0> somiaj: thank you, and now I need to test, just installed
• 314[01:19:35] <Thyriaen> i<3ebian
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• 317[01:20:32] <phogg> awal1: like I said... you are not who you think you are
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• 320[01:21:13] <awal1> phogg, somiaj, oh lol, sorry . I get it now
• 321[01:21:37] <awal1> thanks for your attention :)
• 322[01:22:09] <awal1> mnuhmnuh_, you also was right :)
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• 325[01:23:23] <awal1> I don't know why I was cpying from $HOME as root :(
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• 370[02:00:31] <mnuhmnuh_> awal1: ya, glad you sorted out your prob. are you also a win* user logging into X as root? DON'T!!!
• 371[02:01:00] <mnuhmnuh_> s/ya/yay/
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• 378[02:02:22] <mnuhmnuh_> login as user, open a terminal, su -
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• 380[02:03:12] * mnuhmnuh_ win* fries your mind.
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• 400[02:19:58] <awal1> mnuhmnuh_, win$ users? naaaah! Are you insane? :P
• 401[02:20:10] <awal1> user
• 402[02:22:26] <awal1> I think I just got confused with too many terminals open :P
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• 407[02:26:21] <mnuhmnuh_> awal1: one less thing to worry about - ser gutt! # methinks.
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• 410[02:26:56] * mnuhmnuh_ i may be insane. how do you tell?
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• 415[02:30:20] <castleguard> how do you force debian to take from a PPA instead of from the debian distro (apt)
• 416[02:31:19] <RoyK> you don't
• 417[02:31:29] <RoyK> a PPA is an ubuntu thing
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• 420[02:32:09] <RoyK> castleguard: don't mix packages from different distros - it'll mess things up - really
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• 424[02:32:46] <castleguard> I'm following instructions from the kivy.org site, the debian stretch distro version of kivy is bugged, afaik
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• 427[02:33:18] <castleguard> replaced-url
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• 429[02:33:27] <RoyK> castleguard: then build your own package
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• 431[02:33:33] <castleguard> I'm not sure how to do that.
• 432[02:34:24] <RoyK> is the soure code avaialbe?
• 433[02:34:48] <awal1> mnuhmnuh_, insane bcoz in your intimity/privacy you are a win*$ fun and dev :D
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• 438[02:35:20] <castleguard> replaced-url
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• 441[02:36:14] <castleguard> I'm trying to get kivy so it's going to be massive source
• 442[02:36:15] <RoyK> coolchris: replaced-url
• 443[02:36:27] <RoyK> castleguard: even
• 444[02:36:31] <RoyK> castleguard: the source is in replaced-url
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• 453[02:42:03] <castleguard> /etc/apt/sources.list ... in what order is it read? top or bottom takes precedence?
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• 458[02:44:00] <RoyK> castleguard: did you read what I told you?
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• 460[02:44:42] <castleguard> yeah I did. so get the source from github, compile it with checkinstall
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• 462[02:44:56] <RoyK> then dpkg -i packagename
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• 464[02:46:11] <RoyK> and if it misses some libs or something, just apt-get -f install
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• 468[02:53:50] <mnuhmnuh_> awal1: accusing me of hanging with win*'s fightin' words, so --> #debian-offtopic if you're lookin' for an education. grr.
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• 470[02:54:43] <awal1> mnuhmnuh_, dalai! it was just a joke :P
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• 472[02:54:57] <mnuhmnuh_> castleguard: yes, latter supercedes former.
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• 474[02:55:12] <mnuhmnuh_> clobbers previous.
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• 476[02:56:41] <mnuhmnuh_> awal1: np. :-)
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• 480[03:01:40] <castleguard> how does sources.list.d fit into that? ;)
• 481[03:02:04] <castleguard> I need to pin it too so that version doesn't supercede
• 482[03:02:27] <castleguard> anyways... >< I'll keep bashing my head vs the wall a bit longer then get the source I guess. :)
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• 484[03:02:48] <castleguard> but yeah, I'm curious about how the sources.list.d fits in
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• 497[03:09:57] <Paul--> !repository
• 498[03:09:57] <dpkg> A Debian repository is a set of Debian packages organized into a predefined structure for fetching with <apt>. See replaced-url
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• 500[03:10:51] <mnuhmnuh_> sources.list.d is a way to split your various "sources", which i've always wondered why anyone would want to, but maybe devs have such a need. users shouldn't.
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• 509[03:13:43] <Paul--> repo
• 510[03:13:53] <dvs> mnuhmnuh_, exactly, maybe some packages install new repos in there but that seems unlikely
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• 512[03:14:11] <mnuhmnuh_> i've always worried about how many devs were win* users, dragging their crappy understandings into *nix space (as if that was ever necessary or wanted).
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• 516[03:15:22] <Paul--> hello
• 517[03:15:26] <Paul--> !
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• 519[03:16:09] <Paul--> debian 9
• 520[03:16:31] <mnuhmnuh_> Paul--: question?
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• 522[03:16:54] <Paul--> repository deb9
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• 524[03:17:15] <RoyK> castleguard: the sources.list thing is only about the repos, not if you install things locally
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• 527[03:17:34] <Paul--> I installed deb9, the system tell me I did't select they in the installation
• 528[03:17:47] <RoyK> castleguard: you can setup a local repo, though, but it might not be needed for a single machine
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• 530[03:18:34] <RoyK> Paul--: how did you install debian?
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• 532[03:18:43] <Paul--> from dvd
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• 534[03:19:15] <RoyK> ok, then perhaps the line from the cdrom/dvd is still in /etc/apt/sources.list - just remove it
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• 537[03:19:49] <Paul--> hello
• 538[03:20:06] <RoyK> Paul--: just run editor /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the cdrom line
• 539[03:20:16] <un214> hello; how do I port a package (libprotobuf8) from ubuntu to debian
• 540[03:20:18] <mnuhmnuh_> Paul--: might you post a logfile error message or whatever to paste.debian.net?
• 541[03:20:24] <un214> at some point it's gotta be apt-get -b source but ...
• 542[03:20:50] <RoyK> or something like apt-get purge \*
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• 545[03:21:34] <RoyK> Paul--: then just apt-get update to update the index and you should be fine
• 546[03:21:42] <Paul--> replaced-url
• 547[03:21:52] * mnuhmnuh_ is *buntu still baded on sid?
• 548[03:21:57] <Paul--> yeah, but I have only 3 lines
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• 551[03:22:17] <Paul--> I ran apt-get .....
• 552[03:22:19] <mnuhmnuh_> s/baded/based/
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• 555[03:22:43] <RoyK> Paul--: the cdrom line there is commented out - did you run apt-get update first?
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• 561[03:23:08] <Paul--> I uncommented it
• 562[03:23:14] <Paul--> commented
• 563[03:23:38] <RoyK> mnuhmnuh_: not really - ubuntu has its own package system and a lot of packages aren't directly related to debian - why?
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• 565[03:23:44] <RoyK> Paul--: just apt-get update
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• 567[03:23:48] <RoyK> Paul--: then try again
• 568[03:23:50] <Paul--> RoyK: after the comment
• 569[03:24:06] <RoyK> yes
• 570[03:24:10] <Paul--> ran , It's the same
• 571[03:24:13] <RoyK> erm
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• 573[03:24:22] <RoyK> Paul--: pastebin the error message
• 574[03:24:31] <Paul--> no error
• 575[03:24:38] <dvs> !tell Paul-- about stretch sources.list
• 576[03:24:40] <RoyK> then what is the issue?
• 577[03:24:59] <RoyK> dvs: try dpkg: tell blabla about blabla
• 578[03:25:10] <Paul--> don't found software
• 579[03:25:40] <RoyK> Paul--: please pastebin the whole thing - otherwise - noone can help
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• 581[03:25:48] <mnuhmnuh_> RoyK: cuz sid != debian stable, silly. :-)
• 582[03:26:21] <RoyK> mnuhmnuh_: I'm not silly, but ubuntu has different thresholds of what's stable or not compared to debian
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• 584[03:26:58] <RoyK> mueslo: you may want to ask on #ubuntu
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• 586[03:27:24] <RoyK> mnuhmnuh_: you may want to ask on #ubuntu
• 587[03:27:48] <RoyK> dpkg: tell mnuhmnuh_ about ubuntu
• 588[03:27:56] <Paul--> what is the full repository in deb9 ?
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• 590[03:28:14] <mnuhmnuh_> RoyK: i don't much care what *buntu thinks "stable" means. this's debian. *buntu support is -->
• 591[03:28:15] <Paul--> security, normal and not free
• 592[03:28:33] <dvs> Paul--, dpkg told you
• 593[03:28:43] <RoyK> Paul--: and contrib
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• 595[03:29:17] <RoyK> dvs: what was the keyword for repositories again?
• 596[03:29:36] <RoyK> ,repos
• 597[03:29:36] <Paul--> ...etc/apt/sources.list ?????????
• 598[03:30:09] <toruvinn> i'm assuming those are some utf characters i can't display.
• 599[03:30:19] <RoyK> or somewhere in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
• 600[03:30:44] <RoyK> !repos
• 601[03:30:44] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
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• 604[03:31:26] <Paul--> xchat isn't in the repository ?
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• 606[03:32:00] <dvs> xchat is no longer maintained
• 607[03:32:49] <un214> yeah well I'm more annoyed about the loss of sirc
• 608[03:32:50] <Paul--> hexchat ???
• 609[03:32:50] <RoyK> !xchat
• 610[03:32:50] <dpkg> XChat is a graphical <IRC> client similar to AmIRC. replaced-url
• 611[03:32:53] <Paul--> hello
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• 613[03:33:10] <un214> I haven't been able to find another non-X based IRC client
• 614[03:33:13] <RoyK> Paul--: try to google it first next time
• 615[03:33:17] * RoyK only uses irssi
• 616[03:33:21] <mnuhmnuh_> i see "c xchat - IRC client for X similar to AmIRC" in buster/testing, fwiw.
• 617[03:33:34] <Paul--> irssi you too
• 618[03:33:34] <RoyK> un214: irssi? weechat?
• 619[03:33:42] <Paul--> irssi is old
• 620[03:33:43] <mnuhmnuh_> i use irssi.
• 621[03:33:53] <Paul--> don't understand a dick
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• 623[03:33:55] <RoyK> Paul--: doesn't matter - it works
• 624[03:33:56] <Paul--> by
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• 626[03:34:03] <un214> that's what I said about sirc
• 627[03:34:11] <RoyK> Paul--: weechat is newer btw
• 628[03:34:19] <un214> ah I see irssi is also cmd line
• 629[03:34:25] <Paul--> weechat is another bull...
• 630[03:34:31] <RoyK> omg
• 631[03:34:34] <RoyK> please stop
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• 633[03:35:26] <RoyK> Paul--: what else do you get out of IRC than text?
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• 635[03:35:38] <RoyK> Paul--: try hexchat, it's just an xchat fork
• 636[03:35:43] <RoyK> oh - he left
• 637[03:35:49] <RoyK> possibly for the best of it
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• 639[03:36:07] <mnuhmnuh_> what's wrong w cmd line?!? cmd line is a feature! less cruft, does what you need, no wasted eye candy, ...
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• 641[03:36:22] <un214> dunno; I want it for when X is acting up again
• 642[03:36:28] <RoyK> mnuhmnuh_: he left
• 643[03:36:37] <un214> also I'm a funny guy I install irc clients on servers
• 644[03:36:59] <mnuhmnuh_> meh.
• 645[03:37:02] * RoyK has a small vm running the irc client so that he can connect to it from anywhere - works
• 646[03:37:34] <RoyK> un214: that's quite normal :)
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• 648[03:39:17] <mnuhmnuh_> RoyK: maybe outside NorthAm. always wished i'd got to eu/asia to ply my trade. never happened.
• 649[03:39:39] <mnuhmnuh_> damn.
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• 655[03:40:44] <mnuhmnuh_> here, corps rule.
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• 658[03:41:50] <mnuhmnuh_> OT.
• 659[03:42:17] <DerLGm> mnuhmnuh_: ???
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• 669[03:46:24] <mnuhmnuh_> DerLGm: my prejudices are offtopic in #debian.
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• 671[03:47:11] <RoyK> mnuhmnuh_: better keep the OT stuff in #debian-offtopic ;)
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• 710[04:16:53] <aaa_> 诚念法轮大法好，洪福常伴百病消。
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• 723[04:22:42] <[itchy]> hey, how do i figure out my mac address? ifconfig used to work on ubuntu but my debian says command not found
• 724[04:22:56] <[itchy]> googling says that should work for debian but not working for me
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• 727[04:24:38] <RoyK> Paul--: oh, you're back?
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• 730[04:25:01] <bazhang> [itchy], what about ip
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• 732[04:25:05] <txd> @Paul, 'ip link'
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• 735[04:25:54] <[itchy]> bazhang: looks like command `ip` exists. do you know how to display my mac with it? thanks
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• 739[04:27:00] <[itchy]> ip madress gives a lot of stuff and i can't tell which is my macaddress :<
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• 747[04:31:26] <Tramp> [itchy]: what txd said. MAC is the stuff after "ether"
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• 749[04:32:44] <Paul--> shit
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• 752[04:34:04] <RoyK> ip l a
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• 754[04:34:16] <RoyK> the MAC address is just the address of he machintosh
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• 763[04:38:16] <sleepyhead> i love the new free utility. linuxatemyram is now obsolete!
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• 767[04:41:50] <mnuhmnuh_> root can us ifconfig, as /sbin's in root's PATH by default. users can use /sbin/ifconfig too, if they specify its full pathname, but bare "ifconfig" won't work 'cause "/sbin" isn't in user's PATH by default. Dumb? You bet. As if mere users ever had any need to run ifconfig ...
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• 771[04:42:26] <mnuhmnuh_> stupid.
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• 775[04:43:10] <ryouma> will debian merge them?
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• 788[04:48:09] <hanasaki> is there a known issue with the repo security.debian.org ? apt-get update is failing for me... the cert is for replaced-url
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• 793[04:50:44] <waffle1> Having some 'networking?' problems
• 794[04:51:05] <waffle1> i have a usb network adapter that i used when i was using windows
• 795[04:51:23] <waffle1> and now i decided to use linux, but i cant find a driver for this adapter
• 796[04:51:39] <bazhang> whats the chipset
• 797[04:51:48] <waffle1> Linksys WUSB6100M
• 798[04:52:01] <bazhang> thats the brand name
• 799[04:52:16] <bazhang> lsusb to get the eight character code
• 800[04:53:04] <hanasaki> what shows in /var/log/syslog when you plugin the usb device
• 801[04:53:52] <RoyK> waffle1: pastebin lsusb -vv
• 802[04:54:04] <RoyK> dpkg: tell hanasaki about pastebin
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• 805[04:55:21] <hanasaki> RoyK what's your point in telling me that
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• 807[04:56:58] <waffle1> replaced-url
• 808[04:57:01] <bazhang> hanasaki, thats where to pastebin the info needed
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• 812[04:59:06] <waffle1> There is a light on the adapter too, it shows amber when its plugged in, but not connected to a network, and white when it is connected to a network, obviously it stays amber when i plug it in
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• 817[05:02:26] <waffle1> RoyK: replaced-url
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• 824[05:04:18] <cr1t1cal> which form of install will give me a more minimal initial install?
• 825[05:04:22] <cr1t1cal> a network install?
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• 827[05:04:37] <cr1t1cal> or a full CD, offline install?
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• 830[05:05:10] <cr1t1cal> i basically don't want any extra packages on my intial install, including standard system utilities
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• 835[05:10:38] <waffle1> bazhang: ?
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• 841[05:17:22] <waffle1> Anybody?
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• 847[05:19:18] <waffle1> Guess i get no help?
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• 854[05:31:22] <hanasaki> what would cause ntpd to never sync with its upstream stratum 2 server? just stays at stratum 16. its only about 20 seconds off and is using the -g option
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• 858[05:34:35] <awal1> without tor, no way for avoid geolocalization !
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• 878[05:56:20] <introom> i want to completely get rid of nignx, including the /etc/nginx config files.
• 879[05:56:25] <introom> but apt purge doesn't remove it.
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• 881[05:58:32] <n4dir> you could try "aptitude purge ~c"
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• 903[06:30:02] <awal1> Anyone using openvpn can check if this tutorial is up-to-date replaced-url
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• 908[06:38:57] <gpled> when using synaptic i am getting "can not be authenticated" errors. can someone explain how i can fix this?
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• 913[06:41:50] <rant> gpled: you will need to be more specific but it likely means that your keys are not up-to-date for a repo. its more a warning than an error, packages will install they just will not be authenticated
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• 916[06:42:57] <Rusty1_> gpled: in a terminal type: inxi -rSc0 | pastebin and put the link here
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• 918[06:43:42] <Rusty1_> awal1: try #openvpn on freenode replaced-url
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• 922[06:45:56] <Rusty1_> gpled: might need to install inxi forst, thought i was in anothe rchannel soz
• 923[06:46:02] <Rusty1_> *first
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• 927[06:50:48] <gpled> Rusty1_: replaced-url
• 928[06:52:05] <Rusty1_> gpled: you get those errors when you open synaptic , click Reload?
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• 930[06:52:29] <awal1> Rusty1_, I don't knew there is a channel, but my question was about the tutorial :P
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• 932[06:53:24] <n4dir> gpled: if you install packages from the terminal, you get also errors?
• 933[06:53:33] <n4dir> if so rant is probably right.
• 934[06:53:34] <Rusty1_> awal1: again, i am in a couple channels , my response might not be appropriate - the #openvpn channel is there , or wait here
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• 942[06:58:29] <rant> yes as that inxi command didnt seem to look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ which could for all we know be the issue
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• 947[07:01:01] <n4dir> not sure why an extra tool is needed to get the sources.list[s] entries anyway ...
• 948[07:01:25] <rant> when I said be more specific I meant about the errors themselves
• 949[07:01:28] <n4dir> there is a factoid by the dpkg bot which info is needed, but i forgot it ...
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• 1000[07:52:17] <strength> anyone use nagios?
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• 1002[07:54:52] <RoyK> not anymore
• 1003[07:55:05] <RoyK> not for a *long* time :D
• 1004[07:55:26] * RoyK moved to zabbix
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• 1009[08:01:54] <strength> not you personally or industry wide?
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• 1015[08:13:32] <awal1> iptables-restore < /tmp/v4rules ; ip6tables-restore < /tmp/v6rules ; apt-mark auto easy-rsa
• 1016[08:13:53] <awal1> excuses, confusing windows :(
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• 1020[08:21:47] <RoyK> strength: both
• 1021[08:22:28] <RoyK> awal1: ufw works too ;)
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• 1024[08:23:05] <RoyK> strength: we have around 300 servers at work and we're moving to zabbix. uio.no probably has 1k servers, they're on zabbix already
• 1025[08:23:08] <awal1> RoyK, right
• 1026[08:23:44] <RoyK> nagios was a nice thing once upon a time, but not anymore
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• 1029[08:25:41] <strength> interesting.
• 1030[08:25:58] <strength> i did notice that my ddrt has zabbix in it and was going to try it out just because of that.
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• 1072[09:03:45] <oo_miguel> my maraidb takes forever to process some requests and htop show status=D. where will i start to find out what the bottleneck is? I checked cpus/ram and iostat but all seem fine.
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• 1086[09:13:39] <Tarrasquero> oo_miguel proof cat /proc/interrupts
• 1087[09:14:10] <Tarrasquero> to get started
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• 1108[09:36:21] <{xmb}> anyone know when dkms will support 4.14 ?
• 1109[09:37:41] <{xmb}> in experimental
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• 1111[09:38:07] <{xmb}> there is linux-kbuild-4.14 but dkms package links to 4.13
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• 1117[09:39:33] <nvz> I just issued the command "mv 0/ /home/user/" from CWD /mnt (vfat) to a ext4 fs, and I wasnt aware a directory named 0/ already existed in the destination and now my files seem to have vanished. They are no longer in /mnt/0/ nor are they in /home/user/0/ what happened here?
• 1118[09:39:42] <{xmb}> or amdgpu-pro will support experimental
• 1119[09:39:58] <nvz> this command was issued as a normal user btw, not as root
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• 1145[10:01:47] <wols_> good morning @all. Where do I get a gcc 5 in debian stretch?
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• 1152[10:08:43] <Tarrasquero> wols_: sid
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• 1154[10:09:42] <dutchfish> wols_, replaced-url
• 1155[10:10:59] <Tarrasquero> !gcc-5
• 1156[10:11:14] <Tarrasquero> @gcc-5
• 1157[10:11:20] <Tarrasquero> :$
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• 1159[10:11:47] <dutchfish> hi, how do it enable in native ipv6 the ipv6 privacy extensions for debian stretch/buster?
• 1160[10:12:04] <dutchfish> hi, how do i enable in native ipv6 the ipv6 privacy extensions for debian stretch/buster?*
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• 1162[10:14:42] <Tarrasquero> dutchfish: /etc/network/interfaces
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• 1164[10:14:57] <Tarrasquero> iface eth0 inet6 auto
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• 1170[10:15:51] <dutchfish> Tarrasquero, that i already have and ipv6-test.com show a working native connection, however i cant figure out how to configure ipv6 privacy extensions.
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• 1175[10:16:50] <Tarrasquero> ah ok
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• 1177[10:17:12] <Tarrasquero> sry my ingles traductor
• 1178[10:17:36] <nvz> I recall there being a /sys/ interface for this.. not sure where though
• 1179[10:17:44] <dutchfish> Tarrasquero, or any hint ot read up the Debian part for SLAAC?
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• 1182[10:18:39] <dutchfish> Tarrasquero, np :D
• 1183[10:19:05] <nvz> probably /sys/kernel/ipv6/ or somewhere like that
• 1184[10:19:49] <dutchfish> nvz, yes, probably. But a G'd quiet alot on this but couldnt find it
• 1185[10:20:22] <nvz> dutchfish: well if it were me I'd dig around in /sys/ a bit and maybe find a better google search term at least :P
• 1186[10:20:22] <dutchfish> nvz, everything works ok, but browser do need this
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• 1188[10:20:33] <OtakuSenpai> hello
• 1189[10:20:38] <OtakuSenpai> i need help
• 1190[10:21:34] <OtakuSenpai> im getting this on a apt-get update
• 1191[10:21:37] <OtakuSenpai> replaced-url
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• 1193[10:22:44] <babilen> OtakuSenpai: You might want to use deb.debian.org in lieu of httpredir.debian.org
• 1194[10:22:52] <OtakuSenpai> ok
• 1195[10:23:00] <dutchfish> nvz, btw, i am not the only one, see (this is just for the logs): replaced-url
• 1196[10:23:08] <OtakuSenpai> babilen: does deb.debian use https?
• 1197[10:23:10] <babilen> Also some information as to your apt version (i.e. "apt-cache policy apt") would be helpful
• 1198[10:23:33] <babilen> https should (hopefully) be fine with every major mirror out there these days
• 1199[10:23:39] <OtakuSenpai> Installed: 1.4.8
• 1200[10:23:56] <OtakuSenpai> i tried https on httpredir.debian
• 1201[10:24:00] <OtakuSenpai> it didnt work
• 1202[10:24:22] <babilen> Your issue could also very well be related to your network connection .. What does "curl deb.debian.org" give you?
• 1203[10:25:09] <OtakuSenpai> babilen: curl isnt installed
• 1204[10:25:22] <dutchfish> babilen, 200 ok and a nice htm
• 1205[10:25:51] <dutchfish> oh sorry for the noise
• 1206[10:26:03] <OtakuSenpai> babilen: also deb.debian works now
• 1207[10:26:14] <OtakuSenpai> security.debian doesnt work though
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• 1209[10:27:54] <OtakuSenpai> anyone?
• 1210[10:29:10] <Tarrasquero> dutchfish: replaced-url
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• 1213[10:29:21] <dutchfish> OtakuSenpai, can you also test this over https?
• 1214[10:29:26] <Cybertinus> hello everybody
• 1215[10:29:30] <OtakuSenpai> dutchfish: command?
• 1216[10:30:03] <Cybertinus> how can I define multiple IPv6 addresses on the same interface in /etc/network/interfaces? Is post-up /sbin/ip -6 addr add really the only option or am I missing something?
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• 1221[10:31:39] <themill> OtakuSenpai: real commands and real output not "doesn't work". You know this by now...
• 1222[10:32:11] <dutchfish> OtakuSenpai, curl replaced-url
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• 1224[10:32:29] <OtakuSenpai> 64 bytes from setoguchi.debian.org (133.242.99.74): icmp_seq=4 ttl=48 time=177 ms
• 1225[10:32:39] <OtakuSenpai> 4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3002ms
• 1226[10:32:50] <OtakuSenpai> thts ping security.debian.org
• 1227[10:33:00] <dutchfish> OtakuSenpai, are you behind a proxy?
• 1228[10:33:03] <OtakuSenpai> no
• 1229[10:33:10] <OtakuSenpai> i hav no proxy or tor
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• 1231[10:33:15] <dutchfish> ok
• 1232[10:33:25] <OtakuSenpai> or vps
• 1233[10:33:50] <dutchfish> OtakuSenpai, fyi, there is alot of wrong going on on the net currently.
• 1234[10:33:58] <OtakuSenpai> why?
• 1235[10:34:06] <OtakuSenpai> i heard of some us law thingie
• 1236[10:34:09] <dutchfish> OtakuSenpai, unreachable sites
• 1237[10:34:10] <OtakuSenpai> US*
• 1238[10:34:16] <OtakuSenpai> why so
• 1239[10:34:22] <dutchfish> OtakuSenpai, no idea
• 1240[10:34:27] <OtakuSenpai> hmm
• 1241[10:34:33] <OtakuSenpai> #hax0r
• 1242[10:34:36] <OtakuSenpai> :D
• 1243[10:35:01] <OtakuSenpai> ok, atleast deb.debian is working
• 1244[10:35:10] <OtakuSenpai> let me download testdisk from there then
• 1245[10:35:13] <OtakuSenpai> ,v apt
• 1246[10:35:15] <judd> Package: apt on amd64 -- wheezy-security: 0.9.7.9+deb7u6; wheezy: 0.9.7.9+deb7u7; jessie: 1.0.9.8.4; jessie-security: 1.0.9.8.4; stretch: 1.4.8; buster: 1.6~alpha5; sid: 1.6~alpha5
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• 1273[10:54:10] <ultrasonicmadnes> Hello all, I am interested in looking at the code for Android Studio and the relevant page suggested that I use the tool repo to download it. I looked up the Debian repositories for this package and I found it in Synaptic without a Debian logo, checked the information on it and it seems to be in contrib. I then checked all of its dependencies (git, gnupg, python, python-kerberos) and they all seem to be in
• 1274[10:54:10] <ultrasonicmadnes> main which, to my understanding, would either qualify repo to be in main (likely given its under the Apache License) or non-free if it includes non-free code. Sorry if I've overloaded the chat, it is something I am curious about. Thank you very much in advance.
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• 1279[10:57:11] <OtakuSenpai> so
• 1280[10:57:28] <OtakuSenpai> does writing a new MBR code to a hd requires a system reboot?
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• 1282[10:59:31] <jolt_> OtakuSenpai: No, just to see if it works :)
• 1283[10:59:41] <OtakuSenpai> jolt_: ?
• 1284[10:59:45] <OtakuSenpai> what do you mean?
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• 1286[11:00:07] <OtakuSenpai> well i tried loading the hd after a testdisk session
• 1287[11:00:15] <OtakuSenpai> it says No DBus something
• 1288[11:01:14] <jolt> OtakuSenpai: I just meant that if you write a new boot record with grub it doesn't need a reboot, but to see if it works you would need to reboot.
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• 1291[11:01:27] <OtakuSenpai> ok
• 1292[11:01:33] <OtakuSenpai> well then see ya
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• 1294[11:01:48] <dutchfish> OtakuSenpai, that info lead me to the solution, thank you very much!
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• 1357[11:51:16] <hellyeah> hey
• 1358[11:51:35] <bazhang> hi
• 1359[11:51:38] <hellyeah> i try to install unity but unity ask for that package libpng12-0 but it doesnt exist on repo what can i do?
• 1360[11:52:04] <bazhang> unity on debian?
• 1361[11:52:18] <hellyeah> yes
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• 1369[11:54:05] <freeenodeircchat> hi
• 1370[11:54:09] <freeenodeircchat> hi
• 1371[11:54:14] <freeenodeircchat> hello
• 1372[11:54:17] <freeenodeircchat> anyone?
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• 1374[11:55:10] <freeenodeircchat> anyone here?
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• 1376[11:56:07] <bazhang> yes
• 1377[11:56:18] <bazhang> whats your debian issue
• 1378[11:56:21] <hellyeah> bazhang, guess you dont have an answer for that :D
• 1379[11:56:36] <bazhang> ,v unity
• 1380[11:56:37] <freeenodeircchat> hello hellyeah
• 1381[11:56:37] <judd> No package named 'unity' was found in amd64.
• 1382[11:56:40] <freeenodeircchat> and bazhang
• 1383[11:56:53] <freeenodeircchat> hablo eapanõl?
• 1384[11:57:05] <bazhang> hellyeah, give us the exact package name
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• 1386[11:57:42] <hellyeah> libpng12-0
• 1387[11:57:49] <hellyeah> thats the package name
• 1388[11:57:49] <freeenodeircchat> Hablo espanõl?
• 1389[11:57:58] <freeenodeircchat> Hablo espanõl?
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• 1391[11:58:02] <bazhang> !es
• 1392[11:58:02] <dpkg> Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
• 1393[11:58:13] <freeenodeircchat> !es !es !es !es !es
• 1394[11:58:13] <dpkg> !es !es !es !es: Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
• 1395[11:58:28] <bazhang> /j #debian-es
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• 1398[11:58:40] <freeenodeircchat> dpkg is stupid spic lol
• 1399[11:58:40] <dpkg> i don't know, freeenodeircchat
• 1400[11:58:48] <hellyeah> bazhang, those packages exist replaced-url
• 1401[11:58:59] <bazhang> freeenodeircchat, please dont say that here
• 1402[11:59:27] <freeenodeircchat> bazhang sorry, which word? stupid, or spic?
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• 1404[11:59:30] <freeenodeircchat> i assume the latter but just checking
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• 1406[11:59:41] <SpeedyG> both...
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• 1408[11:59:45] <bazhang> freeenodeircchat, you got the espanol channel
• 1409[12:00:01] <freeenodeircchat> i dont speak spanish
• 1410[12:00:06] <freeenodeircchat> im not your mom
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• 1413[12:00:18] <bazhang> freeenodeircchat, then ask your debian issue here
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• 1415[12:00:21] <freeenodeircchat> just give me the warez and no one gets hurt
• 1416[12:00:28] <freeenodeircchat> i don't use debian
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• 1418[12:00:37] <bazhang> freeenodeircchat, this is not the network for warez
• 1419[12:00:46] <freeenodeircchat> only retards and teenagers who think they are eleet use linux
• 1420[12:00:55] <freeenodeircchat> real hackers use Windows 95
• 1421[12:01:00] <freeenodeircchat> everyone knows that
• 1422[12:01:10] <bazhang> freeenodeircchat, please stop or do we need to call in the ops
• 1423[12:01:19] <freeenodeircchat> call the ops fucker
• 1424[12:01:23] <SpeedyG> !ops freeenodeircchat trolling
• 1425[12:01:23] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: speedyg complains about a problem (see above)
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• 1427[12:01:34] <freeenodeircchat> you are a piece of donkey shit indeed
• 1428[12:01:45] <freeenodeircchat> !ops bazhang is a piece of donkey shit
• 1429[12:01:45] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: freeenodeircchat complains about a problem (see above)
• 1430[12:02:04] <freeenodeircchat> !ops all thank bazhang for showing me this command
• 1431[12:02:05] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: freeenodeircchat complains about a problem (see above)
• 1432[12:02:07] <freeenodeircchat> !ops
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• 1437[12:04:11] <bazhang> thanks
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• 1471[12:41:10] <OtakuSenpai> what are some good ways to bring up a failed hd
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• 1473[12:41:33] <nkuttler> OtakuSenpai: how valuable is the data on it?
• 1474[12:41:39] <OtakuSenpai> very much
• 1475[12:41:56] <nkuttler> OtakuSenpai: in a cleanroom, by a team of experts
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• 1477[12:42:11] <OtakuSenpai> im currently doing a deeper search in testdisk
• 1478[12:42:27] <nkuttler> OtakuSenpai: you don't want to destroy the data by trying to read it
• 1479[12:42:39] <OtakuSenpai> quick search and a rewrite of mbr code didnt work
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• 1481[12:43:20] <Harpalus> OtakuSenpai: You should be doing all of that (if at all, as nkuttler suggested) on an image of the hard drive.
• 1482[12:43:48] <OtakuSenpai> Harpalus: how do i create a image of the hd?
• 1483[12:44:45] <Harpalus> OtakuSenpai: I'd use dd to create a raw image.
• 1484[12:44:51] <OtakuSenpai> hmm
• 1485[12:45:00] <OtakuSenpai> ok
• 1486[12:45:04] <OtakuSenpai> so
• 1487[12:45:23] <OtakuSenpai> so i dd the hd, do the testdisk on the image, and recover the files?
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• 1493[12:47:40] <OtakuSenpai> is tht a yes?
• 1494[12:48:28] <Harpalus> OtakuSenpai: Yeah
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• 1497[12:49:28] <Harpalus> OtakuSenpai: Because any work you do on the actual hd might corrupt more data.
• 1498[12:50:10] <OtakuSenpai> ok
• 1499[12:50:34] <themill> (or, better, restore from your backup)
• 1500[12:50:53] <OtakuSenpai> i will prolly hav to format the hd after tht
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• 1502[12:51:42] <mum0l_> Hi guys, I will come back again with my question regarding hanging lsof command and nagios scsript - maybe someone will have any idea how to fix that... replaced-url
• 1503[12:51:59] <OtakuSenpai> but i dont hav enough space for a 2tb hd
• 1504[12:52:02] <OtakuSenpai> hmm
• 1505[12:52:23] <OtakuSenpai> is there a way to find how much space the contents of the hd occupy?
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• 1508[12:54:12] <Harpalus> OtakuSenpai: If you're doing a raw image, it'll take up just as much space as the size of the hd.
• 1509[12:54:22] <OtakuSenpai> maybe i should run es2-something
• 1510[12:54:26] <OtakuSenpai> i forgot the name
• 1511[12:54:35] <OtakuSenpai> what was it
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• 1517[12:57:30] <OtakuSenpai> Harpalus: i dont hav tht much space
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• 1519[12:57:50] <OtakuSenpai> i only hav a 2tb n 1tb disk
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• 1522[12:59:21] <OtakuSenpai> can someone tell me the name of the program tht repairs bad superblocks of ext series filesystems?
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• 1525[13:01:34] <Harpalus> OtakuSenpai: if the files really are super important, then you prob. should consult an expert.
• 1526[13:01:54] <OtakuSenpai> im not in a company
• 1527[13:02:01] <OtakuSenpai> im just a normal user of debian
• 1528[13:02:15] <OtakuSenpai> it could help if someone told me tht programs name
• 1529[13:02:20] <OtakuSenpai> something es2...
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• 1532[13:03:14] <Cybertinus> OtakuSenpai: e2fsck?
• 1533[13:03:19] <OtakuSenpai> yeah tht
• 1534[13:03:23] <OtakuSenpai> thnx a lot
• 1535[13:03:29] <Cybertinus> yw
• 1536[13:03:52] <Cybertinus> running that will reduce your chances of having it recovered by a professional company greatly, when used directly on disk
• 1537[13:03:59] <Cybertinus> but it is worth a shot :)
• 1538[13:04:35] <OtakuSenpai> is it normally installed or does it live in a package?
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• 1540[13:04:44] <OtakuSenpai> i mean will i hav to install it from repos
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• 1543[13:05:06] <jelly> OtakuSenpai: it's present by default
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• 1545[13:05:36] <Cybertinus> it is installed on my Debian 9.2 system yes
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• 1547[13:06:05] <jelly> make a copy of the whole device before doing anything with fsck, if you have valuable data
• 1548[13:06:38] <Iridos> I want to tunnel a vnc session to the existing running X using x11vnc on display 0… I forward port 5900 and 5901 to localhost
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• 1550[13:06:44] <OtakuSenpai> YAY!
• 1551[13:06:53] <OtakuSenpai> m y hd is back :)
• 1552[13:06:56] <Iridos> when I try to connect to x11vnc, I get channel 3: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed
• 1553[13:07:15] <OtakuSenpai> thnx guys
• 1554[13:07:27] <Iridos> when I use netcat to listen on 5901, I have no problem connecting to localhost:5901 on the client machine
• 1555[13:07:38] <Cybertinus> yw OtakuSenpai
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• 1557[13:07:57] <OtakuSenpai> cheers Cybertinus
• 1558[13:08:09] <Iridos> what could that be… the tunnel works for netcat, but not for x11vnc on the next port
• 1559[13:08:52] <Iridos> I could also connect to the x11vnc session with x11-forwarding when I really connected to localhost
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• 1566[13:11:37] <Iridos> the only difference I can see is that nc -l -p5900 binds to any interface, the x11vnc explicitely only to localhost
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• 1581[13:21:12] <RoyK> Harpalus: don't use dd on a failing drive, use ddrescue
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• 1583[13:22:18] <RoyK> OtakuSenpai: then make a backup before you do anything else - there are cloud services that are cheap. I use jottacloud as a backend for duplicati - $5 a month for unlimited storage
• 1584[13:23:45] <OtakuSenpai> RoyK: its a 2tb hd, and its the largest one(other being a 1tb hd)
• 1585[13:23:52] <Harpalus> RoyK: hadn't heard of that before, thanks.
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• 1587[13:24:14] <OtakuSenpai> so it could be a problem if i hav to dd a 2tb hd onto my userspace
• 1588[13:24:26] <RoyK> OtakuSenpai: well, make a damn backup
• 1589[13:24:34] <OtakuSenpai> hmm
• 1590[13:24:34] <RoyK> OtakuSenpai: drives die - it's in their nature
• 1591[13:25:18] <RoyK> OtakuSenpai: use some cloud storage solution, as I said, I'm using replaced-url
• 1592[13:25:47] <OtakuSenpai> well let me see
• 1593[13:26:22] <RoyK> duplicati can use a lot of different backends
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• 1659[14:12:21] <hansol> hello
• 1660[14:12:55] <hansol> how can me using my homeserver debian to get more traffic on my website?
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• 1766[15:22:14] <castleguard> !sources.list
• 1767[15:22:14] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
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• 1781[15:27:33] <castleguard> !apt
• 1782[15:27:33] <dpkg> Advanced Packaging Tool (APT) is a package management system used by Debian and its derivatives. APT is a C++ library of functions that are used by several command line programs for dealing with packages, notably apt-get, apt-cache, and aptitude and, from Debian 8 "Jessie" onwards, apt. See also <aptitude> <apt-get>, <apt-cache>, <apt myths>.
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• 1784[15:27:58] <castleguard> !apt myths
• 1785[15:27:58] <dpkg> Myths about APT never seem to die, the principal one being you can't mix using different APT front-ends like apt-get and aptitude. This is false. If you need further convincing, see replaced-url
• 1786[15:28:26] <castleguard> last one sorry
• 1787[15:28:30] <castleguard> !own repo
• 1788[15:28:30] <dpkg> To feed your own packages into apt, you need to create a repository with a Packages file that lists the packages. If you only have a few packages and don't have very sophisticated requirements, you can use <dpkg-scanpackages>. If you want to be able add/remove packages using regular Debian tools like dput then try <reprepro> or mini-dinstall. See replaced-url
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• 1795[15:31:21] <gloomy> Hello :)
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• 1797[15:31:37] <gloomy> Anyone know what this means?
• 1798[15:31:53] <gloomy> replaced-url
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• 1801[15:33:28] <Voldenet> gloomy: This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming.
• 1802[15:33:34] <Voldenet> (yes, I've just copied the error message) :)
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• 1805[15:33:51] <Voldenet> So first, what version are you using?
• 1806[15:33:54] <gloomy> That's a bit gibberish for me :-)
• 1807[15:33:54] <Voldenet> what repos
• 1808[15:34:08] <gloomy> what repos?
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• 1811[15:34:40] <Voldenet> post /etc/apt/sources.list somewhere
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• 1817[15:36:21] <Iridos> judd, versions libtinfo5
• 1818[15:36:21] <judd> Package: libtinfo5 on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.9-10; jessie: 5.9+20140913-1+b1; stretch: 6.0+20161126-1+deb9u1; buster: 6.0+20170902-1; sid: 6.0+20171125-1
• 1819[15:36:33] <Argus> Greetings folks
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• 1825[15:37:36] <Iridos> judd, versions libncurses5-dev
• 1826[15:37:36] <judd> Package: libncurses5-dev on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.9-10; jessie: 5.9+20140913-1+b1; stretch: 6.0+20161126-1+deb9u1; buster: 6.0+20170902-1; sid: 6.0+20171125-1
• 1827[15:37:56] <castleguard> What's the difference between the main repo and updates repo for debian stretch (not the security repo)
• 1828[15:38:47] <castleguard> Just trying to make sense of my sources.list
• 1829[15:39:03] <gloomy> replaced-url
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• 1831[15:40:17] <Iridos> afaik non-security backported bugfixes go there, before they go into the main repo in a point release
• 1832[15:40:24] <Iridos> dpkg, stretch-updates
• 1833[15:40:25] <dpkg> i heard stretch-updates is a suite providing updates to some packages (from <proposed-updates>) prior to a <point release>. All packages from stretch-updates will be included in point releases. replaced-url
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• 1838[15:42:41] <gloomy> I don't understand the E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
• 1839[15:42:55] <castleguard> dpkg: ty
• 1840[15:42:55] <dpkg> methinks ty is #del#
• 1841[15:42:56] <gloomy> If I do apt-mark showhold
• 1842[15:43:03] <gloomy> I don't get anything
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• 1844[15:44:21] <Iridos> that's a raspian repo for raspian… ask #raspian on that
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• 1846[15:45:24] <Iridos> #raspbian of course
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• 1869[15:57:41] <Argus> Umm
• 1870[15:57:47] <Argus> Hey guys
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• 1872[15:58:03] <Argus> I think I just uninstalled my desktop environment
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• 1874[15:58:46] <JPT> Why do you think that?
• 1875[15:58:47] <Argus> I'm using gnome, and I was being annoyed by the caribou onscreen keyboard popping up
• 1876[15:58:51] <Argus> so
• 1877[15:58:58] <dixie7z__> has someone used virtual assistant like cortana on linux? to open, close programs... shutdown computer... volume up/down... recommendations?
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• 1879[15:59:09] <Argus> I typed sudo apt remove caribou
• 1880[15:59:33] <Argus> And then I got a bunch of messages like "removing gnome"
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• 1885[16:00:22] <Argus> Is it cosidered a dependency? I didn't purge anything
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• 1887[16:00:55] <JPT> Perhaps it was a dependency ... in that case just reinstall all packages that you removed earlier
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• 1965[16:45:53] <wonderworld> hat jemand ne idee wie ich den unix timestamp nach dem vollendeten booten bekomme?
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• 1968[16:46:49] <dutchfish> wonderworld, english please ;) but yes, uname -a should tell you the timestamp of the kernel, if that is what you want?
• 1969[16:47:10] <dutchfish> wonderworld, or you ment uptime?
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• 1972[16:48:12] <wonderworld> uhh sorry. no i don't need to get the current time, i need to ge tthe time when the last bootup was finished
• 1973[16:48:28] <dutchfish> wonderworld, uptime
• 1974[16:48:34] <dirac1> I'm having issues with pinentry and tomb, anyone here uses it?.
• 1975[16:48:55] <wonderworld> dutch: thanks
• 1976[16:49:02] <dutchfish> yw
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• 1978[16:51:15] <dutchfish> wonderworld, also uptime -s , then convert to a unix timestamp
• 1979[16:53:16] <dutchfish> wonderworld, alternatively `stat -c %Z /proc/`
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• 2050[17:35:19] <jw> Hi, I'm trying to connect to an enterprise wpa2 network using a command line only install of debian
• 2051[17:36:21] <jw> I have already installed the necessary wireless firmware, iwlist scan shows the target network
• 2052[17:36:37] <jw> Any ideas how to best connect?
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• 2054[17:39:57] <vfw> iwconfig wlan0 essid <essid-here>
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• 2057[17:41:07] <vfw> dhcpcd wlan0 #Where wlan0 is your wifi interface and dhcpcd is your dhcp client
• 2058[17:41:48] <vfw> jw Oh I forgot about the encryption
• 2059[17:42:14] <vfw> but if you turn off encryption, the above commands will do
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• 2061[17:43:40] <vfw> replaced-url
• 2062[17:43:57] <kopper> Why would anyone disable encryption?
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• 2064[17:44:23] <vfw> kopper: They would disable encryption if they do not need it.
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• 2066[17:44:35] <vfw> Not everyone needs it.
• 2067[17:45:07] <vfw> Some are so paranoid they THINK they need it.
• 2068[17:45:19] <vfw> but...
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• 2070[17:45:30] <teraflops> ;S
• 2071[17:45:36] <vfw> It's a lot easier without it.
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• 2073[17:46:31] <kopper> Wow
• 2074[17:46:47] <vfw> It depends on whether you think your neighbor is a malicious hacker.
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• 2076[17:47:11] <teraflops> vfw: please stop this nonsense
• 2077[17:47:35] <vfw> It's NOT nonsense. Not EVERYONE uses or needs encryption.
• 2078[17:48:04] <teraflops> yeah sure go talk about it somewhere else
• 2079[17:48:06] <jw> Minor problem
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• 2081[17:48:14] <vfw> For one thing, not everyone lives in a home that is close enough to others
• 2082[17:48:20] <jw> I don't have dhcpd installed
• 2083[17:48:29] <vfw> try dhclient
• 2084[17:49:41] <jw> Don't have that either
• 2085[17:49:45] <vfw> teraflops: Maybe you should voice your opinions somewyere else, (it's clearly not having much effect here).
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• 2087[17:50:09] <vfw> jw: Then you will need to use static IP.
• 2088[17:50:32] <jw> How does that work
• 2089[17:50:50] <teraflops> vfw: I did not express any opinion… yet
• 2090[17:51:10] <teraflops> vfw: again this is a debian support channel, join #security or whatever
• 2091[17:51:16] <vfw> jw: ifconfig wlan0 192.168.5.25 && route add default gw 192.168.5.1
• 2092[17:52:27] <vfw> jw use an IP address thay will work on your network, one that is not already in use.
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• 2095[17:53:05] <vfw> teraflops: Your opinion was that everyone needs wifi encryption, obviously not mine.
• 2096[17:53:30] <vfw> teraflops: (Which has little to do with debian.)
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• 2099[17:53:59] <jw> A little difficult, I'm on attempting to get onto a university network and I don't think it will allow me to choose my own IP address
• 2100[17:54:09] <teraflops> vfw: youre still talking nonsense also youre giving bad advices
• 2101[17:54:09] <vfw> teraflops: I think we are whipping a dead horse here... so... nufsaid
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• 2103[17:54:27] <teraflops> yeah sure shut the fuck up
• 2104[17:54:33] <jw> Even if it would, your command doesn't allow me to specify my identity and password
• 2105[17:54:35] <vfw> teraflops: It's a dead horse
• 2106[17:55:05] <teraflops> vfw: go finish the supper for jw youre doing pretty well…
• 2107[17:55:09] <teraflops> support^
• 2108[17:55:21] <vfw> jw: wpasupplicant
• 2109[17:55:31] <vfw> replaced-url
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• 2111[17:56:05] <vfw> jw: hopefully you have wpasupplicant installed
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• 2113[17:56:20] <jw> I do
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• 2118[17:59:01] <vfw> jw: But again, if you do not have a dhcp client, you will need to set a static IP and default route for now, (until such time as you install a dhcp client).
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• 2120[17:59:39] <jw> Thanks
• 2121[17:59:47] <jw> I'll let you know how I get on
• 2122[17:59:48] <vfw> jw: replaced-url
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• 2137[18:05:57] <ledufakademy> hello
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• 2140[18:06:31] <castleguard> I'm looking for a recommendation on a very lightweight file manager: I tried gentoo and it was a little rough around the edges. ;)
• 2141[18:06:44] <castleguard> *gentoo the fm
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• 2144[18:07:04] <teraflops> jw: uni does wpa enterprise so none of the links vfw thrown at you are useful at all
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• 2147[18:07:24] <n4dir> ther is a tk (?) based one, but i forgot the name, perhaps someone else remembers, castleguard. Else mc comes to mind (or just the shell ... )
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• 2149[18:07:56] <jw> Oh
• 2150[18:08:34] <jw> Well I've logged onto my other partition so I can download some packages now
• 2151[18:09:05] <ledufakademy> for office ubuntu 17.10 or debian 9.2 ?
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• 2153[18:10:46] <vfw> jw: It is pretty easy to join an unencrypted WiFi network via comman line. Not so with an encrypted one. You really need GUI and NetworkManager, (clearly the easiest way).
• 2154[18:11:28] <jw> Hm. I'm trying very hard to avoid that
• 2155[18:11:43] <jhutchins> vfw: It's not that hard, you don't need a gui.
• 2156[18:11:49] <ed_> does anyone know of a way to use column -t to align "strings that have spaces" with "strings that dont"?
• 2157[18:12:02] <jw> Is there likely to be a config file somewhere on my other partition?
• 2158[18:12:11] <ed_> s/strings that dont/strings_that_dont/ :)
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• 2160[18:12:38] <jw> Nothing in /etc/wpasupplicant
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• 2162[18:12:48] <n4dir> castleguard: i think i had xfe in mind (but while searching i also ran into pcmanfm, which many like. not sure about rox)
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• 2165[18:13:52] <castleguard> n4dir: thanks man. :)
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• 2170[18:17:20] <vfw> jhutchins: It may not be hard, but hard to explain on IRC
• 2171[18:18:02] <vfw> jhutchins: But you must admit, it's a lot easier with NetworkManager.
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• 2176[18:21:21] <n4dir> ed_: you could give it a try in the #bash channel.
• 2177[18:21:27] <vfw> jw: Here is some information you might find useful:
• 2178[18:21:32] <vfw> jw: replaced-url
• 2179[18:21:36] <ed_> n4dir: i thought this was #dash ;)
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• 2183[18:22:59] <n4dir> as the bash topic states, you can also ask about other shells, as long you say so, but i fail to see how usage of column is related to the shell you use at all
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• 2185[18:23:49] <ed_> yes, np
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• 2187[18:24:32] <dragonflier> hello fellow debian-lovers!
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• 2191[18:24:42] <vfw> jello
• 2192[18:24:47] <dragonflier> how do you do
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• 2195[18:25:00] <jw> vfw: this seems like it might work, Thanks!
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• 2197[18:25:12] <vfw> np
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• 2221[18:29:18] <mspo> ed_: I think you need to show some examples + what you want
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• 2224[18:30:48] <donofrio> anyone here use remmina? I'm wondering why I cannot connect thought freerdp on my powerpc install of ubuntu 16.04.3? (cannot even debug it because nothing shows up in debug window - nothing at all!)
• 2225[18:31:08] <annadane> donofrio, for ubuntu you're better off asking ubuntu support
• 2226[18:31:08] <ed_> what version of windows?
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• 2228[18:31:41] <donofrio> well I just want to find folks using remmina to be honest and I'm lurking in that channel as well but it's very quite there
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• 2231[18:33:20] <n4dir> you sure it is version 16 of ubuntu? I thought they gave up on powerpc, and it's quite a while ago.
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• 2235[18:34:13] <donofrio> it's the last version with powerpc support (debian9 last one or will 10 support this arch?)
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• 2238[18:34:51] <n4dir> i don't think debian still supports powerpc. The last version is now old-stable. as far i can tell
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• 2241[18:35:54] <donofrio> yah looking for kodi 17 on powerpc
• 2242[18:36:08] <donofrio> 17.5 hopefully
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• 2246[18:39:05] <donofrio> I grabbed the server version and apt-get gdm xfce4 firefox pianobar kodi openconnect remmina remmina-plugin-rdp -y and wait for the 800+ packages to finish installing then I try to connect with the openconnect for my cisco vpn that works great but remmina doesn't want to connect (but it does chanllenge for username/password
• 2247[18:39:34] <nkuttler> donofrio: ubuntu support is in #ubuntu
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• 2249[18:40:16] <donofrio> I'm just looking for fellow remmina users that connect to windows 2012+
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• 2252[18:41:39] <giirt> It seem like the default values provided in /etc/default/useradd does not apply to new users created with the useradd command. Altough I specify that /bin/sh should be the default shell it does not apply. What am I doing wrong? replaced-url
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• 2254[18:42:33] <annadane> donofrio,
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• 2256[18:42:36] <annadane> !based on debian
• 2257[18:42:36] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare replaced-url
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• 2267[18:47:02] <teraflops> giirt: ಠ_ಠ
• 2268[18:47:16] <dragonfliers> «»
• 2269[18:47:34] <RoyK> :þ
• 2270[18:47:37] <dragonfliers> who loves debian with cinnamon raise your hand
• 2271[18:47:49] <Tarrasquero> ¬¬_§
• 2272[18:47:59] <dragonfliers> ł€®
• 2273[18:48:15] <teraflops> giirt: what's the output of ls -la /bin/sh ?
• 2274[18:48:19] <dragonfliers> f(x, y) € R
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• 2282[18:53:44] <giirt> teraflops: ls -la /bin/sh
• 2283[18:53:44] <giirt> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 sep 11 11:08 /bin/sh -> dash
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• 2286[18:55:55] <teraflops> giirt: tbh I have no idea why is not behaving as expected
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• 2293[19:04:36] <woshty> giirt: If not set in /etc/passwd, /bin/sh is the default (according to man 5 passwd).
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• 2313[19:17:47] <teraflops> woshty: that changed in stretch? in jessie I get replaced-url
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• 2316[19:21:54] <mspo> look at /etc/default/useradd
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• 2368[19:55:55] <xtore> If I rename ens123 in my interfaces file as eth0 will everything still work and look more familiar or will it break
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• 2371[19:56:46] <RoyK> xtore: don't do it - get used to the new naming standard - the names there are consistent, eth{0..} names aren't
• 2372[19:57:18] <jelly> they're only consistent if your pci/usb connectivity never ever changes
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• 2375[19:57:39] <jelly> and they're ugly
• 2376[19:57:52] <cheapie> I still don't understand how having a different enp14u5s29190 on every single box is "consistent".
• 2377[19:58:06] <cheapie> "First network interface is always eth0" is consistent.
• 2378[19:58:22] <RoyK> not if you have two interfaces
• 2379[19:58:42] <jelly> "first" could change back then, too, but udev renamed them using hw address
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• 2381[19:59:03] <dtux> are these equivalent? `tar vxzf foo.tgz /` vs `tar xzf foo.tgz && rsync -av foo/ / && rm -rf foo/`
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• 2384[19:59:11] <jelly> new scheme just replaces one set of problems with another
• 2385[19:59:50] <cheapie> FWIW, if it was up to me, the eth0, eth1, and so on names would be the "normal" system, but there would also be some "consistent" aliases for them, kind of like /dev/disk/by-id does for drives.
• 2386[19:59:54] <do0m> no. now the names don't change
• 2387[19:59:59] <do0m> previosly, they would
• 2388[20:00:04] <do0m> this is more consistent
• 2389[20:00:14] <jelly> dtux: they don't look like they do the same thing, no
• 2390[20:00:27] <xtore> Did ubuntu also move to this ens thang or are they sticking with ethx? Just curious.
• 2391[20:00:32] <cheapie> Yeah, "consistent" as in "I move the OS installation to another box and everything networking-related breaks"
• 2392[20:00:44] <jelly> do0m: they change when bus assugnments change.
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• 2395[20:01:46] <do0m> whey would they change jelly ?
• 2396[20:01:52] <do0m> (honest quetion)
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• 2399[20:02:58] <jelly> do0m: migrating hardware platform; dynamic pci assignments (VM or physical)
• 2400[20:03:31] <jelly> or just plug the card in a different slot
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• 2405[20:05:09] <dtux> jelly: im not very familiar with rsync, is the difference that the first overwrites more?
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• 2407[20:05:44] <do0m> it doesn't have to, you choose what policy(ies) you want udevd to name the interfaces can't you ?
• 2408[20:06:30] <jelly> do0m: which is what the previous setup did
• 2409[20:06:38] <jelly> !70
• 2410[20:06:39] <dpkg> This is outdated, for Stretch see replaced-url
• 2411[20:07:05] <cheapie> <insert systemd rant here>
• 2412[20:07:09] <do0m> lol
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• 2414[20:08:04] <cheapie> "Stable interface names even if you have to replace broken ethernet cards by new ones"
• 2415[20:08:09] <jelly> do0m: this was introduced to help RH with automatic deployment and read-only / fs
• 2416[20:08:14] <cheapie> ...until your enx2486fio,eii,.480gk becomes enxipb234r690.i,by9
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• 2418[20:09:12] <do0m> i haven't come across issues with this
• 2419[20:09:19] <do0m> well, i also have no issues with ethX
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• 2421[20:10:04] <do0m> but yeah, the only "issue" i've had is not being able to know my management if is named eth0
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• 2425[20:10:48] <cheapie> ethX is especially good for desktop use where you only have one NIC, as it's *always* called eth0. I don't know what's supposedly unpredictable about that.
• 2426[20:11:15] <Hooloovo0> I actually like the old behavior for netbooting things
• 2427[20:11:31] <Hooloovo0> since then, every old computer I boot always has eth0 no matter what
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• 2429[20:11:56] <cheapie> I suppose you could check what the NIC is called, but that requires memorizing or otherwise figuring out the magic command line arguments to "ip" since ifconfig doesn't seem to be included by default any more.
• 2430[20:12:24] <Hooloovo0> given, that's the case even with new systems, since the name is set to eth0 before the udev gets a chance to, and by that point it's already booted, but you know...
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• 2433[20:12:52] <cheapie> Apparently "ip link" will show at least the available NICs, which I guess is a start.
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• 2461[20:28:34] <Paul--> hello
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• 2471[20:34:06] <elim_garak> is sudo not supposed to work in debian 9.2?
• 2472[20:34:33] <Keitaro> hello guys
• 2473[20:34:36] <teraflops> elim_garak: what's your issue?
• 2474[20:34:45] <jelly> it's supposed to work
• 2475[20:34:52] <Keitaro> what is the alternative by default for netstat command in debian 9 plz ?
• 2476[20:34:57] <jelly> Keitaro: ss
• 2477[20:35:09] <Keitaro> thanks
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• 2479[20:35:16] <jelly> or "ip r" if you're after netstat -r
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• 2481[20:35:35] <Keitaro> do you know why netstat is depreciated ?
• 2482[20:35:42] <elim_garak> teraflops, sudo apt-get install something i get sudo: command not found
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• 2485[20:35:50] <Keitaro> yes i think there is also the commande route
• 2486[20:36:07] <jelly> Keitaro: it's been depreciated since 2000; Debian just took notice now
• 2487[20:36:30] <Keitaro> yes but why ?
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• 2489[20:36:37] <Keitaro> for same reason as ifconfig ?
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• 2491[20:37:36] <teraflops> elim_garak: go install it
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• 2497[20:38:30] <jelly> elim_garak: use "su -" to open a root shell. sudo is not installed by default, if you chose a root password at installation time
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• 2499[20:38:56] <elim_garak> jelly, so escalate to root user, then install, then switch back to normal user?
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• 2501[20:39:12] <elim_garak> su - apt-get install something exit
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• 2510[20:40:51] <jelly> elim_garak: yes, best not to keep a root shell opened without good reason
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• 2512[20:41:15] <jelly> you COULD keep a terminal or tmux or screen with su - opened on the side, but be careful
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• 2524[20:44:32] <Paul--> hello
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• 2528[20:45:13] <Paul--> how disable X nouveau nvidia driver ? I must install proprietary drivers
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• 2530[20:45:37] <jhutchins> Keitaro: The newer tools have more capability in modern network environments.
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• 2533[20:46:14] <jhutchins> ifconfig is from the era when we didn't have dhcp and if you wanted to move a computer to a different network you needed a forklift.
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• 2536[20:46:59] <jelly> !nvidia dkms
• 2537[20:46:59] <dpkg> For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist.
• 2538[20:47:00] <jelly> Paul--: ^^
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• 2540[20:47:35] <jelly> dpkg, tell Paul-- about non-free sources
• 2541[20:47:58] <Paul--> I haven't this file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf
• 2542[20:48:15] <Keitaro> thx jhutchins
• 2543[20:48:21] <jelly> Paul--: that command will create it
• 2544[20:48:31] <teraflops> read the echo part^
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• 2551[20:53:36] <Paul--> I haven't this file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf
• 2552[20:53:40] <Paul--> don't exist
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• 2567[20:57:30] <jelly> Paul--: did you set up non-free sources, and run the nvidia dkms command inside « » ?
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• 2571[20:58:03] <Paul--> only the first, aptitude ...
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• 2573[20:58:14] <jelly> the whole thing is a single command
• 2574[20:58:18] <Paul--> nvidia-kernel-dkms don't exist here
• 2575[20:58:33] <jelly> that's because you have not added non-free sources first
• 2576[20:58:44] <Paul--> all in one line ?
• 2577[20:58:58] <jelly> yes, but before that, fix your sources.list
• 2578[20:59:11] <jelly> to include contrib non-free
• 2579[20:59:25] <Paul--> I have the driver on usb key
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• 2583[21:00:05] <jelly> Paul--: if you use nvidia's installer, it messes things up down the line. Avoid using it
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• 2587[21:02:07] <Paul--> non free in what line ?
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• 2589[21:02:23] <jelly> !non-free sources
• 2590[21:02:23] <dpkg> Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then «apt-get update». But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses. See also <sources.list>.
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• 2594[21:03:03] <jelly> Paul--: fix all the lines that start with deb or deb-src, and have a debian.org URL
• 2595[21:03:06] <Paul--> replaced-url
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• 2599[21:03:51] <fredl> sorry about the part/join spam
• 2600[21:04:02] <jelly> Paul--: so all of those deb and deb-src lines ought to have: main contrib non-free
• 2601[21:04:35] <jelly> line 2, 3, 5, 6, 9, 10 from your paste
• 2602[21:04:42] <jhutchins> jelly: The order of those doesn't matter, does it?
• 2603[21:05:20] <jelly> it doesn't
• 2604[21:05:58] <Paul--> backports too ?
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• 2611[21:08:34] <jelly> probably won't hurt
• 2612[21:08:50] <jelly> I totally ignored those lines below 10
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• 2614[21:09:24] <jelly> Paul--: line 14 is redundant, you already have *-updates on line 9
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• 2620[21:10:26] <Paul--> ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf
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• 2622[21:10:30] <Paul--> don't exist
• 2623[21:10:35] <jelly> that's just fine
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• 2626[21:10:40] <jelly> it does not have to exist
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• 2628[21:10:42] <Paul--> how put noveanu in black list ?
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• 2637[21:11:20] <jelly> Paul--: by letting this part execute: mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf
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• 2639[21:11:49] <jelly> Paul--: and nvidia packages will atuomatically blacklist the kernel part of nouveau
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• 2643[21:12:31] <Paul--> ok
• 2644[21:12:35] <Paul--> now rebbot ?
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• 2646[21:12:42] <Paul--> reboot ?
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• 2665[21:17:04] <PAUL--> ok rebooted
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• 2667[21:17:46] <PAUL--> the program tell me the kernel nouveau is again used
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• 2671[21:19:50] <PAUL--> ERROR: The Nouveau kernel driver is currently in use by your system. This driver is incompatible with the NVIDIA driver, and must be disabled before proceeding.
• 2672[21:19:53] <PAUL--> Please consult the NVIDIA driver README and your Linux distribution's documentation for details on how to correctly disable the Nouveau kernel driver.
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• 2674[21:20:20] <PAUL--> how disable it
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• 2676[21:21:05] <PAUL--> !disable Nouveau
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• 2678[21:22:27] <somiaj> PAUL--: how did you insatll the nvidia driver?
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• 2680[21:22:56] <PAUL--> I must disable this nouveau
• 2681[21:23:03] <PAUL--> how disable ?
• 2682[21:23:06] <PAUL--> blacklist
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• 2686[21:23:38] <somiaj> PAUL--: how did you insatll the nvidia driver?
• 2687[21:23:53] <PAUL--> nvia don't go, must disable nouveau
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• 2693[21:25:02] <somiaj> PAUL--: how did you insatll the nvidia driver?
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• 2712[21:33:32] <lionrouge> hi !
• 2713[21:33:39] <lionrouge> are there any Debian devs here?
• 2714[21:33:39] <fredl> I think he may not be listening somiaj :)
• 2715[21:33:44] <fredl> hello lionrouger
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• 2717[21:34:12] <jelly> there may be a few
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• 2719[21:34:36] <zu22> howdy everyone
• 2720[21:34:47] <zu22> it's been 2 years since i was last on freenode!
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• 2722[21:35:04] <lionrouge> i just wanted to ask them what were they thinking about when made 0755 default permissions for user's home folders
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• 2724[21:35:18] <lionrouge> it's a disgrace
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• 2727[21:35:36] <PAUL--> ???
• 2728[21:35:58] <lionrouge> when you run adduser it will create a home folder for it and it will be visible FOR EVERYONE
• 2729[21:36:10] <lionrouge> it's the default
• 2730[21:36:11] <annadane> lionrouge, this is mainly for technical support; you can try debian-devel@lists.debian.org if you really want though they may not take it kindly
• 2731[21:36:17] <lionrouge> and you can change it in /etc/adduser.conf
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• 2734[21:37:00] <lionrouge> annadane, i don't give a **** how they take it. From now on i don't take Debian kindly
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• 2738[21:38:21] <jelly> PAUL--: did you do the whole nvidia dkms command?
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• 2740[21:38:27] <somiaj> fredl: yea, I was hoping to get an answer so I could give a a decent support. If PAUL-- installed the nvidia drivers from the debian non-free packages, the package should blacklist nouveau, and then it just requires a reboot.
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• 2746[21:42:13] <fredl> 755 default permissions for user's home folders is a disgrace?
• 2747[21:42:23] * fredl stares blankly
• 2748[21:42:36] <teraflops> what a rant
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• 2751[21:43:28] <fredl> I guess somebody looked in this ~/kiddieporn folder and he got a bit embarrassed.
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• 2756[21:44:56] <fredl> #debian has changed a lot over the years.
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• 2760[21:46:48] <teraflops> Tarrasquero: boinas ;)
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• 2762[21:47:24] <Tarrasquero> teraflops: holas ;)
• 2763[21:47:26] <fredl> hmm, peepz on #ansible pretty damn quiet
• 2764[21:47:47] <jelly> this default does not suit MY NEEDS! *hysterics* HAS TO BE CHANGED IMMEDIATELY
• 2765[21:47:59] <fredl> maybe any of you #debian folks willing to help me with an SSH/Ansible problem I'm struggling with?
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• 2768[21:48:25] <fredl> jelly, you have to be the longest-lasting IRC #debian supporter I know :)
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• 2770[21:48:29] <jelly> fredl: only if you're running it on debian
• 2771[21:48:37] <fredl> well yeah duh :P
• 2772[21:49:00] <teraflops> same for: why {put random package here}.deb is not installed by default?
• 2773[21:49:13] <fredl> So I set up this SSH config to do a ProxyCommand to login in on remote virtual servers behind a NAT router
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• 2775[21:49:46] <fredl> like this:
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• 2777[21:49:50] <fredl> Host vn-hcm-* haiweb
• 2778[21:49:50] <fredl> ProxyCommand ssh -W %h.3dn.intern:%p vn
• 2779[21:50:00] <fredl> easy enough so far, right?
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• 2781[21:50:08] <fredl> And:
• 2782[21:50:17] <fredl> Host vn
• 2783[21:50:17] <fredl> Hostname vn.3dn.nl
• 2784[21:50:17] <fredl> ControlMaster auto
• 2785[21:50:17] <fredl> ControlPath ~/.ssh/ansible-%r@%h:%p
• 2786[21:50:17] <fredl> ControlPersist 5m
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• 2790[21:50:30] <annadane> fredl, paste.debian.net
• 2791[21:51:01] <fredl> sowwy :)
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• 2793[21:51:10] <Tarrasquero> fredl: pastebinit:)
• 2794[21:51:12] <fredl> Probably one line too much :)
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• 2796[21:51:50] <teraflops> I have contradictory thoughts about yaml
• 2797[21:52:21] <fredl> ohwait, someone is responding on #ansible
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• 2800[21:53:15] <apollo13> fredl: lol
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• 2802[21:55:12] <fredl> oh :P
• 2803[21:55:15] <fredl> LOLOL
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• 2805[21:57:22] <jelly> yeah, don't ask the same question in multiple channels at the same time
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• 2815[22:06:11] <annadane> Paul--, hi. somiaj is asking you how you installed nvidia; did you use their drivers from their website, or did you install it using apt
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• 2817[22:08:45] <LtL> annadane: he followed the nvidia dkms factoid, apparently.
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• 2822[22:10:10] <pablo__> char micro
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• 2831[22:12:15] <tmerr> it it possible to create a package that makes a apt dist-upgrade fail while looking at control files / resolving dependencies?
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• 2834[22:12:48] <tmerr> i need it to be conditional, based on a version of another package :/
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• 2838[22:15:01] <fredl> don't be a sourpuss jelly :P
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• 2847[22:18:35] <petn-randall> !tell fredl -about crosspost
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• 2851[22:20:14] <teraflops> tmerr: I think it is easier repacking it and adding a new dep
• 2852[22:21:07] <petn-randall> tmerr: Sounds like you're looking for a convoluted solution to a problem you haven't told us yet.
• 2853[22:21:21] <teraflops> repacking/repackaging or whatever ;S
• 2854[22:21:23] <petn-randall> In other words, what is your goal?
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• 2858[22:22:15] <booyah> hi, how to tell Network Manager to fuck off from changing my network settings?
• 2859[22:22:56] <booyah> manager: NetworkManager state is now CONNECTED_GLOBAL, and then it changes my network to a state that does not work
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• 2861[22:23:26] <apollo13> you might wanna watch your language if you want help
• 2862[22:23:28] <petn-randall> booyah: There are many solutions, but the easiest is probably to simply configure the network interface properly within nm.
• 2863[22:23:28] * booyah suspects systemd is responsible
• 2864[22:23:52] <petn-randall> booyah: I'm guessing systemd has nothing to do with this, it's an init system, not a network manager.
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• 2866[22:24:08] <petn-randall> booyah: also what apollo13 said
• 2867[22:24:10] * apollo13 hums something about systemd-networkd
• 2868[22:24:12] <booyah> petn-randall: for example systemd is resetting my clock I see
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• 2870[22:24:24] <booyah> it's a cancer, not initd manager imo
• 2871[22:24:28] <apollo13> booyah: no, that is systemd-timezond if at all
• 2872[22:24:31] <apollo13> get your facts straight
• 2873[22:24:40] <booyah> systemd-timezond is not part of systemd?
• 2874[22:24:50] <apollo13> timesycnd rather
• 2875[22:25:05] <petn-randall> !systemd ranting
• 2876[22:25:05] <dpkg> #debian is not a place for ranting about init systems; try #arguments, #moocows or /dev/null. Bugs with the necessary information on how to reproduce the problem should be reported to the relevant package in the <bts>.
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• 2878[22:25:51] <petn-randall> booyah: What OS are you running?
• 2879[22:26:01] <booyah> with nm, how to tell it I have two configurations, one is using static IP (of eth0, of default gw and of dns server), and another one is dhcp?
• 2880[22:26:13] <booyah> petn-randall: debian 9
• 2881[22:26:23] <tmerr> petn-randall, i have been tasked with blocking upgrades between particular versions of a debian-derivative linux distribution. there is an automatic upgrader that unconditionally runs dist-upgrade, so i need to kill it before it does too much damage. and the best way i have found is doing evil things in pre-configuration scripts
• 2882[22:26:34] <apollo13> booyah: run nmtui and configure it accordingly
• 2883[22:26:41] <petn-randall> tmerr: Which OS?
• 2884[22:27:04] <booyah> apollo13: can it autodetect it? e.g. when networking doesn't work then try dhcp again, if that doesn't help then try static?
• 2885[22:27:21] <petn-randall> booyah: Right click on the systray icon and configure it.
• 2886[22:27:38] <booyah> also, I use several X users. is that configuration shared across them?
• 2887[22:27:43] <petn-randall> booyah: That's not possible with nm, but you could use ifupdown and guessnet to do just that.
• 2888[22:27:46] <booyah> they are logged in at same time btw
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• 2901[22:30:50] <tmerr> petn-randall it's not well known. it's specifically designed for a NAS product
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• 2903[22:30:57] <tmerr> which the company i work for makes
• 2904[22:31:05] <petn-randall> tmerr: You might want to ask their support then.
• 2905[22:31:12] <tmerr> ;)
• 2906[22:31:17] <petn-randall> !based on
• 2907[22:31:17] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare replaced-url
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• 2910[22:31:36] <tmerr> Ah, I missed that, apologies.
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• 2913[22:32:06] <petn-randall> That factoid is a bit snarky, I might need to fix that.
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• 2918[22:32:59] <tmerr> i feel that a lot of debian derivative distros aren't that different. there is no debian-like channel huh
• 2919[22:33:29] <somiaj> tmerr: version numbers (such as epochs) and pinning are the only ways I know of to control what apt decides when upgrading packages.
• 2920[22:33:45] <somiaj> tmerr: clossest is ##linux, but this is more general linux and not debian based.
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• 2924[22:35:06] <tmerr> true. thanks, i think this problem is very particular and i'll have to do some digging on my own. it happens
• 2925[22:35:24] <tmerr> <3 debian
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• 2928[22:36:24] <somiaj> tmerr: maybe have your upgrade script set up pinning based on conditionals, before the upgrade, then you wont' have to worry about the upgrade failing, the pinning will ensure that the packages you don't want upgraded arent.
• 2929[22:36:57] <somiaj> i.e. the upgrade will still exit 0 with sucess, but the script will pinn things so you won't get upgrades you don't want.
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• 2931[22:37:39] <petn-randall> tmerr: Indeed, but for example Ubuntu does quite a bit off things different, including packaging. And distros like Kali make snapshots from testing, so bugs in Kali might already be fixed in testing by now. There are also a few social reasons we don't support derivatives in here.
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• 2940[22:40:30] <somiaj> tmerr: you may also be able to use holds, set up holds based on conditionals before the upgrade.
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• 2944[22:42:52] <tmerr> somiaj, good ideas, thanks! inserting some kind of check beforehand is a good idea. or even downloading some kind of signed pre-upgrade script.
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• 2948[22:43:11] <jak2000> hi all, anyone worked with svn? installed and when try connect say connection refused... any advice why? opened the port 3690
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• 2967[22:56:01] <Paul--> hello
• 2968[22:56:31] <tmerr> hi paul
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• 3003[23:15:04] <nkfsdkfs> hey
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• 3011[23:17:52] <Paul--> aplay
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