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22 [00:08:08] <xtore> Not sure if it's off topic here so didn't want to write the whole thing out
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26 [00:08:48] <annadane> xtore, is it included in debian? then no, it's not off topic
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30 [00:09:31] <xtore> annadane, ok being a debian noob could you tell me what the latest and greatest debian distro is that has it included? replaced-url
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32 [00:10:09] <annadane> xtore, well, there you go, it's in stretch
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34 [00:10:18] <annadane> so if you just ask a more detailed question we can help you better
35 [00:10:27] <annadane> unless you're using sid, in which case
36 [00:10:29] <annadane> !debian-next
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50 [00:16:32] <xtore> annadane, uhmm is stretch unstable? If so I may go for sid if that's the recommended one
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52 [00:16:40] <annadane> xtore, no, stretch is debian stable
53 [00:16:47] <annadane> but you linked sid, which is debian unstable
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55 [00:17:07] <xtore> oh that link was just a random url as a result of my googling
56 [00:17:08] <annadane> but as you can see, the package you linked is available in debian stretch - stable - so it's fine to ask about here
57 [00:17:19] <xtore> What version number is stretch?
58 [00:17:22] <annadane> 9
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64 [00:19:00] <xtore> Ahh I don't see 9 in esxi 6.5 sadly
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66 [00:19:38] <annadane> xtore, you're running debian inside a virtual machine, then?
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68 [00:20:00] <xtore> I will be soon, yes. It's going to be a bit of a hurdle getting it installed however
69 [00:20:20] <xtore> I wonder of debian 6 is still supported? esxi says "legacy" but I assume that's the most tried and tested
70 [00:20:30] <annadane> ah, well, you can probably just download an image and install from there
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72 [00:20:41] <annadane> replaced-url
73 [00:21:00] <xtore> Anyway just to let you know the problem I was having with dante was an erronious one probably related to the routing table. So a person on SO solved the problem by switching from centos6 to ubuntu LTS so I figured I could perhaps try one of the debians.
74 [00:21:41] <annadane> you probably do not need debian 6 just for that
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79 [00:24:10] <xtore> yeah but if it magically makes dante work I will be happy
80 [00:24:41] <xtore> I figure since it's an integrated package, then the routing tables will be set up appropriately as opposed to on centos 6 where it's an externel epel package
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83 [00:24:54] <xtore> Here is my guiding light btw if you're curious: replaced-url
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94 [00:31:40] <xtore> Oh looks like esxi does support debian 9
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118 [00:39:47] <SIN3R6Y> Anyone else having issues getting the isc-dhcp-common package? I get an during an installtion im trying to via netinst
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123 [00:41:25] <annadane> ,v isc-dhcp-common
124 [00:41:26] <judd> Package: isc-dhcp-common on amd64 -- wheezy: 4.2.2.dfsg.1-5+deb70u8; wheezy-security: 4.2.2.dfsg.1-5+deb70u8; jessie: 4.3.1-6+deb8u2; jessie-security: 4.3.1-6+deb8u2; stretch: 4.3.5-3; buster: 4.3.5-3+b1; sid: 4.3.5-3+b1
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126 [00:41:35] <annadane> !bat
127 [00:41:35] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
128 [00:41:39] <annadane> SIN3R6Y, ^
129 [00:41:56] <annadane> oh, hang on, this is in the installer itself?
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131 [00:41:58] <SIN3R6Y> it's debootstrap, so long list. Do you just want the error?
132 [00:42:08] <annadane> yeah, any relevant output
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135 [00:42:46] <annadane> (paste.debian.net)
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137 [00:42:58] <SIN3R6Y> E: could not download packages: isc-dhcp-common only error message
138 [00:43:08] <SIN3R6Y> And debbootstrap exists with 1
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140 [00:43:19] <Brigo> SIN3R6Y, are you using stable?
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142 [00:43:32] <SIN3R6Y> yes, latest strech install
143 [00:43:51] <annadane> or termbin, i guess
144 [00:43:54] <annadane> !termbin
145 [00:43:54] <dpkg> termbin is probably you can paste to termbin.com from terminal via: cat /path/to/file | nc termbin.com 9999
146 [00:44:11] <Brigo> nice idea termbin
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151 [00:45:22] <annadane> but if it's in an install situation either one may not work
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153 [00:45:30] <annadane> i'm not very knowledgeable of debootstrap
154 [00:46:00] <Brigo> i guess is in the downloading proced, before the installing or copying.
155 [00:46:10] <Brigo> so network or servers issue.
156 [00:46:11] <annadane> both _should_ be fine but i don't know
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158 [00:48:08] <Brigo> SIN3R6Y, or maybe not enought driver space ...
159 [00:48:34] <SIN3R6Y> 16g shouldn't be an issue, but i can check. Waiting for it to fail again
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161 [00:48:45] <SIN3R6Y> It's a minimal install
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165 [00:50:56] <Brigo> SIN3R6Y, if there is 16G availables for the install then you are right.
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167 [00:51:44] <Brigo> i just pointing out the usual problems that can lead to that error message.
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169 [00:51:50] <xtore> If I want to install non-gui debian is there an option for that during install or some special trick?
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175 [00:52:21] <n4dir> xtore: yes, don't pick a desktop-environment during taskel, rather at the end of the installation process
176 [00:52:33] <xtore> It's that simple?
177 [00:52:37] <n4dir> it is probably set per default, so you have to untick it.
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179 [00:52:40] <n4dir> yes, that simple
180 [00:53:14] <n4dir> you will be asked if you want a DE, the standard utils, an ssh-server, cups, and a few more things. Pretty obvious
181 [00:53:27] <AlexPortable> How do i isntall mysql-client on debian 8.6?
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184 [00:54:06] <AlexPortable> oh wait it works now nvm
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191 [00:56:36] <SIN3R6Y> Brigo: replaced-url
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193 [00:57:43] <annadane> my immediate suspicion is probably a bad mirror and to suggest selecting another
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198 [00:58:35] <SIN3R6Y> annadane, well i can install them using apt in the live env replaced-url
199 [00:58:38] <Brigo> i agree, if you can chouse
200 [00:58:55] <SIN3R6Y> debootstrap and apt share the same sources.list
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202 [00:59:18] <Brigo> you can do that too.
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204 [00:59:35] <Brigo> just copy from one system to another.
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206 [00:59:59] <SIN3R6Y> Well debootstrap wont actually install the system if packages fail to download
207 [01:00:10] <annadane> if you can install from a live env that's probably fine, i assume it will set the system up correctly regardless of when those packages were installed, but in theory it's something to watch out for because it wasn't configured properly at the time
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209 [01:00:44] <annadane> debian is pretty good about delaying configs and matching them all up ad hoc after the fact
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212 [01:01:03] <annadane> note that i say "probably" and "in theory"
213 [01:01:07] <annadane> ask the non idiots
214 [01:01:51] <SIN3R6Y> Well the issue is getting deboostrap to actually install with the missing packages. Might try to setup a local mirror since i can get them via apt
215 [01:02:01] <annadane> right
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218 [01:02:28] <annadane> it may also be an improperly set up debootstrap but it makes less sense than a bad mirror
219 [01:02:28] <SIN3R6Y> im using ftp.us.debian.org so i'd hope it's not a mirror issue, but it sure seems like it
220 [01:02:54] <SIN3R6Y> Also considering is deboostrap in a fresh live install
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222 [01:03:49] <annadane> incidentally if it does work with a different mirror i'd report those mirror errors
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226 [01:04:16] <annadane> i'm not sure where the proper place to do it is; perhaps #debian-replaced-url
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240 [01:08:49] <SIN3R6Y> Looks like an intermittent mirror issue, Running with --verbose i get a 502 error, then up re-run it works fine
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243 [01:09:46] <annadane> oh, good.
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281 [01:24:32] <ksk> Hey. Running a 2xQuadcore System with Debian, Can I expect to CPU0 to be cores 1-4 and CPU1 to be cores 5-8 -- or how does that work? :)
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288 [01:26:36] <koollman> ksk: you can use 'lscpu' to know that
289 [01:27:15] <koollman> ksk: example on a dual socket e52620v4, the two last lines: NUMA node0 CPU(s): 0-7,16-23 , NUMA node1 CPU(s): 8-15,24-31
290 [01:27:28] <koollman> (so, no. you cannot just expect that)
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295 [01:29:16] <ksk> okay, thanks!
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299 [01:33:33] <annadane> actually for that matter, is there a list of all ls* commands?
300 [01:33:41] <annadane> lscpu, lsblk, lsusb...
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311 [01:38:44] <ksk> lsls that would be imho :>
312 [01:38:59] <LtL> annadane: just type ls and hit tab like a rock star
313 [01:39:17] <ksk> but that would depend on installed packages LtL?
314 [01:39:35] <LtL> ksk: certainly
315 [01:39:40] <LtL> yes
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317 [01:40:19] <LtL> ksk: the majority of 'ls*' cmd's are core cmd's anyway
318 [01:40:22] <annadane> oh, right. autocomplete.
319 [01:40:26] <annadane> dug.
320 [01:40:28] <annadane> duh.* even
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322 [01:41:12] <ksk> autcomplete is the admins friend (or not!).
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324 [01:41:32] <LtL> annadane: depends on your path also i believe, so... be root
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326 [01:41:58] <LtL> or maybe not
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328 [01:42:12] <annadane> time for a science experiment!
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330 [01:42:32] <annadane> yeah no, i get the same as root and non root
331 [01:42:50] <annadane> though i used su - instead of su
332 [01:42:50] <LtL> ok, cool annadane
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335 [01:43:53] <LtL> i'm a firm believer in 'su -' unless i want to become a different regular user.
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344 [01:52:34] <LtL> annadane: one basic difference in su - versus su is that su - will make /root/ your pwd, su will not iirc.
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365 [02:01:46] <xbadc0de> Hello
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367 [02:02:22] <xbadc0de> I have installed debian, testing and for some reason I dont have the usual login screen where I can choose which WM to use
368 [02:02:29] <xbadc0de> X seems to not start automatically
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370 [02:02:53] <xbadc0de> because if I do startx everything goes in normally but I dont get to change my window manager
371 [02:02:56] <xbadc0de> can you help?
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373 [02:04:00] <annadane> xbadc0de, did you use the testing installer? if you're just looking to install testing (as opposed to testing the installer) it's better to install a minimal stable first, upgrade to testing and then add what you need
374 [02:04:04] <annadane> that being said,
375 [02:04:06] <annadane> !debian-next
376 [02:04:06] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
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379 [02:04:53] <xbadc0de> annadane: I did use stable and then changed my repos to testing
380 [02:05:04] <xbadc0de> and everything seems to be almost working
381 [02:05:10] <xbadc0de> except this issue with startx
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433 [02:32:19] <xtore> So after installing debian 9 I find that the command ifconfig does not exist
434 [02:33:01] <mutante> xtore: it has been replaced by the "ip" command
435 [02:33:09] <mutante> ifconfig is outdated
436 [02:33:37] <mutante> xtore: for example "ip a s" to show stuff
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440 [02:36:55] <LtL> strange as it is a fresh stretch install on a new hdd on my laptop *does* have ifconfig. go figure i don't recall doing anything special.
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450 [02:43:53] <LtL> mutante: 'ip a' does the same thing as ip a s
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457 [02:49:33] <mrr0butt> ifconfig is still in the repo its just not installed by default
458 [02:49:45] <mrr0butt> apt-get install net-tools
459 [02:50:33] <mrr0butt> but due its not preinstalled you should be abel do the stuff with ip
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463 [02:53:24] <mrr0butt> and it can do way more stuff then ifconfig
464 [02:53:37] <mrr0butt> ip link help
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468 [02:54:36] <mrr0butt> !py3 ip link help
469 [02:55:02] <mrr0butt> ups :D
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484 [03:03:54] <TyrfingMjolnir> Is there a way to see if there are disk speed failure? Using proc or similar
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526 [03:31:12] <xtore> mutante, my most used commands were "ifconfig -a" to get an idea of what was there and half there and also "ifconfig eth0 up" and "ifconfig eth0 down"
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531 [03:33:05] * xtore wonders if he can safely rename "ens192" in the /etc/network/interfaces file to "eth0" without breaking anything
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545 [03:40:41] <hanasaki> so debian hangs on grub on boot of an appolo lake processor however libreelec boots fine. any thoughts as to why and how to get debian to boot ok?
546 [03:40:48] <hanasaki> this is the iso for the installer
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592 [04:11:32] <transhuman> Hi! asking this question here hoping someone can point me to the right place to ask
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594 [04:11:56] <transhuman> replaced-url
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601 [04:16:42] <transhuman> never mind figured it out some what npm run --script <script name> but I have to create a packages.json, now to figure out how!
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679 [05:22:40] <fishcooker> what's preferred apps to handle copy paste list of commands?
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688 [05:26:53] <awal1_> fishcooker, paste where?
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691 [05:28:59] <bazhang> awal1_, he means something like pastebinit
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693 [05:29:16] <awal1_> bazhang, ah, ok
694 [05:29:34] <awal1_> there is also termbin, I think
695 [05:29:42] <awal1_> ,v termbin
696 [05:29:43] <judd> No package named 'termbin' was found in amd64.
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781 [06:02:42] <lucr3zi4b> âââââââââââ OPAL IS DOING LIVE SEX SHOWS TO MAKE MONEY WHILE IN SCHOOL @ TRANNIESFORSALE.COM: gandiva aindilis OS-30663 genpaku lift Guest38449 guardian TimEnchanter gm152 atf komugi gatekeep martybr canvon_ Arieh jandrusk spacebug^ PaulePanter c0ncealed GDiaX jak2020 bipolar gmh Saar peterS Quantumcross profall xcm eb0t_ A|TARIS Te[u]K grumble imMute ageis gusnan loeken lazareo dtux qor
782 [06:02:42] <BARBIE20> ââââââââââââââââââ EL HAS BEEN STRUGGLING WITH FINDING OUT THAT EMERSON AND DAX ARE GAY QUEENS: askz jonathan_ Pelle` Ring0` Quantumcross eb0t_ bogus- CHRiSNEW nyuszika7h cyboman33 vincent_c Saar hank thecoffemaker qzo NeoBlaster chrissl Ad1Tech edwardly fiQmob gandiva pierrot Bercik xtore Doldge fast tomreyn stu_meat Jdbye m
783 [06:02:42] <indust> ââââââââââââââââ EL HAS BEEN STRUGGLING WITH FINDING OUT THAT EMERSON AND DAX ARE GAY QUEENS: xand terr1 Shadowcrit systo marens benj_ necrogami lionheartActual adrenaline mkam[m] Relicka abff LocaMocha sqz planetmaker jh Dezponia amd_0x51 therock247uk stefanc_diff JesseWalling mreznik geir_ chrissl PaulePanter distantorigin Spitfire sloucher
784 [06:02:43] <lucr3zi4b> ââââââââââââââ OPAL IS DOING LIVE SEX SHOWS TO MAKE MONEY WHILE IN SCHOOL @ TRANNIESFORSALE.COM: boser dbristow domovoy_ shpingrlde Asoka chalcedony t3eblinder1 Zorroness sussudio lsyoyom argusbr ageis jeddi Sina maf_p mentor makz awhitlock8 _rubik Pugabyte Sir_Designer__ daemonkeeper MobileMatt waz0wski canvon_ CeBe luuh Aebian ChmEarl TimWolla lsv RebelCoderR
785 [06:02:43] <lucr3zi4b> âââââââââââââââ VAP0R IS STILL PROMOTING WHITE SUPREMACY IN #/JOIN AND OPERS HAVE NOT STOPPED IT: snkcld r0bby bobe ChmEarl eir gehaxelt ozzloy sunkan SleePy eb0t SolarAquarion bigjazzsound jh001_ sophiya berndj aerbax RUDE Jim[m] iCherry- Tramp JesseWalling rooty_ SpeedBus_ test659898[m] Rockj neechan stu_meat plicease_ mutante jas4711 palinuro KNERD
786 [06:02:43] <indust> ââââââââââââââââââ OPAL TELLS PEOPLE TO GET A GUN AND KILL THEMSELVES AND DEMIURGE (e) IS SUCH A PUSSY AND SCARED TO KLINE OPAL.: tolecnal juhop RUDE serban flipp somnambler supersoju vegenaise likcoras smidlers _systemd_is_evil nyuszika7h Stummi Druid Nik05 kriskropd zymurgy sobkas Sina SirCmpwn chachasmooth_ O SIN3R6Y thero
787 [06:02:43] <indust> ââââââââââââââââââââ EL HAS REALIZED THAT SHE IS JUST NOT SMART ENOUGH TO BE AN OP AND HAS GIVEN CHRISTEL HER RESIGNATION: Zauberfisch darkstalker MeltedLux mdorenka eb0t_ BeamWatcher roguelazer eki Igel OS-30663 levifig BARBIE20 KNERD f3bruary L3gacy Gabemo r3m Pichet_ james41382 toorop jpic nebul8 darkalia
788 [06:02:43] <lucr3zi4b> âââââââââââââââ OPAL TELLS PEOPLE TO GET A GUN AND KILL THEMSELVES AND DEMIURGE (e) IS SUCH A PUSSY AND SCARED TO KLINE OPAL.: Quick_Wango babyflakes hipodils1i ezra-s PhonicUK ShaRose BotaniCar volodim natr0x kbob ScottE staircrusher lankanmon jandrusk ejsf TMan459 stwalkerster Dragon5232 grandfso nezZario ledeni Snakes chrissl Toffe ghostyyy zolo tab
789 [06:02:43] <indust> ââââââââââââââââââ OPAL TELLS PEOPLE TO GET A GUN AND KILL THEMSELVES AND DEMIURGE (e) IS SUCH A PUSSY AND SCARED TO KLINE OPAL.: clorophormo RH_IO zz_zz MrHyde bier bpsecret jhq awhitlock8 Swant Rockj SkIzZaTo joze aliasnumber13 Dad` dbristow moetunes staircrusher pron duckydan crash_ chalcedony BaW eir hasdf skagerak TimEnc
790 [06:02:43] <NYRDi> âââââââââââââ EL HAS REALIZED THAT SHE IS JUST NOT SMART ENOUGH TO BE AN OP AND HAS GIVEN CHRISTEL HER RESIGNATION: Tybor r3 Kitty nhandler idmistir Quick_Wango Noah0504 Sue phar6oor musca Gransy- zmachine Olipro sethkush SpeedBus_ thekingofbandit kevy0 trobotham AlexZ_ Zauberfisch Dj_Dexter Psy-Q cybrNaut hessu ohithere led_belly Ad1Tech ultralow Swant zack6849 rook2pa
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792 [06:02:43] <zolo> âââââââââââ OPAL IS DOING LIVE SEX SHOWS TO MAKE MONEY WHILE IN SCHOOL @ TRANNIESFORSALE.COM: georgeowell Rovanion s0ph0s evotopid ffernand Cisien webbyz qzo cadeskywalker maf_p volodim hessu {41444d494e} AxForest prasket dos1 sIRwa3 gareth_ acperkins GDiaX kocubinski bolovanos_ modlin rook2pawn Dr-Shadow nopf keith4 spanglesontoast MonsterKiller Jguy babilen Sir_Designer__ runde ericnoa
793 [06:02:43] <BARBIE20> ââââââââââââââââââââ VAP0R IS STILL PROMOTING WHITE SUPREMACY IN #/JOIN AND OPERS HAVE NOT STOPPED IT: ChanServ ibex CrazyEddy urzds tensorpudding hank levifig VBrain testing214[m] APLU StephenS lukasdboer roguelazer tec___ Guest55057 lan_stuff shastry aliasnumber13 sloucher Peterzen dondelcaro DK2 slicepape
794 [06:02:43] <BARBIE20> ââââââââââ EL HAS BEEN STRUGGLING WITH FINDING OUT THAT EMERSON AND DAX ARE GAY QUEENS: peterrooney kerrhau Guest40802 Ellied platicus2 rolig linuxdaemon cybrNaut paul_ x42 nicdev dmarr rokas dwar ArlequInOut patsToms Ilie[] F14W3D tekmo_ nix64bit paradizelost whis lan_stuff bluj sidewalk a64 DLange inSync dondelcaro blackwell austin987 sbeyer jmnk bove raSter^ apollo13 thekingofbandit jonathaN f
795 [06:02:43] <taakeslot> ââââââââââââââââââââ EL HAS BEEN STRUGGLING WITH FINDING OUT THAT EMERSON AND DAX ARE GAY QUEENS: Iridos diytto electro33 sidmo_ Ad1Tech Netwolf sistematico soahccc Asoka toorop eck Beretta021 pony teraflops tonyoy Dad` ageis WARBIRD199 meminemy slack_ # Cosmophile afx237 namix parshimers Cavedude Graypup_ b
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797 [06:02:43] <AyLa> âââââââââââââââââ OPAL TELLS PEOPLE TO GET A GUN AND KILL THEMSELVES AND DEMIURGE (e) IS SUCH A PUSSY AND SCARED TO KLINE OPAL.: noodle beaver elik lbata phogg WebDawg fishcooker palinuro Janhouse nprs benf BaW styks1987 solos mspo PhilSliderS pppktz lift mdroid GGMethos BotaniCar tugrik sekjun9878 gr4yscale nopf CrazyyMaxx pipeep nur
798 [06:02:43] <zolo> âââââââââââââââ OPAL TELLS PEOPLE TO GET A GUN AND KILL THEMSELVES AND DEMIURGE (e) IS SUCH A PUSSY AND SCARED TO KLINE OPAL.: jor kuchi zz_zz beardy Chex rooty_ helldorado mete anonnumberanon tsia AxForest Jguy Dj_Dexter TaZeR oberling NoCode petn-randall Cork strass fiQmob guios inviz tyler2435 Nightmare vincent_c JZA rax- xar- precise|otter runde ho
799 [06:02:43] <zolo> âââââââââââââââââââ OPAL IS DOING LIVE SEX SHOWS TO MAKE MONEY WHILE IN SCHOOL @ TRANNIESFORSALE.COM: mrm wizzy_ michaelni adds68 nix64bit XDS2010|AFK Masaomi[m] sekjun9878 petan ggherdov Tristan-Speccy jos3ph jdiez Guest24088 lmcloughlin Druid rakor atf C swaechter bmixed[m] mreznik anonnumberanon m712 eb0t cybrNaut
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801 [06:02:43] <taakeslot> ââââââââââââââ VAP0R IS STILL PROMOTING WHITE SUPREMACY IN #/JOIN AND OPERS HAVE NOT STOPPED IT: christel kevy0 StephenS botho blazeme8 b0l3x sc_ duckydan wingman2 fast KjetilK yuastnav Cosmophile kward Butt3rfly flipp sucks rolig mcintosh mete netrace Piper moss |ifei5good acperkins Nd-69-M serban wooden_ benf CrazyEddy larjona cbdev luz1 SleePy hid3 skz enkry
802 [06:02:43] <taakeslot> ââââââââââââââââ EL HAS BEEN STRUGGLING WITH FINDING OUT THAT EMERSON AND DAX ARE GAY QUEENS: mdorenka scoopex wytchmaster bluj enoch85 schoppenhauer mibo Deific RichiH Geom remy somiaj Sleepy63 Ishaq sukaeto Dagger edvb sniku_ AxForest ShockingIsntIt eki blue zolo dpkg MuffinMedic Rhuarc Toris noodle atomi Tristan-Speccy larjona mossman Enric
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804 [06:02:43] <AyLa> ââââââââââââââââââ OPAL IS DOING LIVE SEX SHOWS TO MAKE MONEY WHILE IN SCHOOL @ TRANNIESFORSALE.COM: guios geir_ hasdf Cavedude l9 xorex Sciuro bodeezl celyr pyllyukko Pwnna Renari hid3 acperkins systo atf sptnx hiroki pztrick RebelCoder platicus2 adds68 Dez cyberzeus babyflakes nnyby squarecircle IdleGandalf Cabanossi LoRez
805 [06:02:43] <AyLa> ââââââââââââââââ EL HAS REALIZED THAT SHE IS JUST NOT SMART ENOUGH TO BE AN OP AND HAS GIVEN CHRISTEL HER RESIGNATION: tolecnal {sd}- ultralow altendky tadz lru cybrNaut splinux kalebo superkulak cmam nwe qzo lstanley satanist ecelis Piggy stwalkerster ngc0202 electro33 tiwake rolig qmr wonderworld heap_ g4spr0m rokas L235 A|TARIS N3X15 timele
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807 [06:02:43] <zolo> âââââââââââââââââ VAP0R IS STILL PROMOTING WHITE SUPREMACY IN #/JOIN AND OPERS HAVE NOT STOPPED IT: mypapit nadersith APexil StathisA nopf aliasnumber13 Dad` basicmiracle blazeme8 sophiya fatalis Dezponia timeless lukasdboer Arrowmaster Acrisor High_Priest snkcld christel monty Galihom MeanEYE babilen chud WARBIRD199 Trellmor mindstor
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809 [06:02:43] <skejte> ââââââââââââ OPAL TELLS PEOPLE TO GET A GUN AND KILL THEMSELVES AND DEMIURGE (e) IS SUCH A PUSSY AND SCARED TO KLINE OPAL.: cooldude ShaRose koollman Kobaz indust natr0x elik sasukeskapa latez WebDawg asaba AxForest osro riex cybrNaut F14W3D Natrick l9 Jdbye jannic benjen TimWolla volter pugfantus ruslan_m sc_ solos duckydan sobkas mhall119 zmachine monty qman__ vutral modlin jo
810 [06:02:43] <gunda> âââââââââââ EL HAS REALIZED THAT SHE IS JUST NOT SMART ENOUGH TO BE AN OP AND HAS GIVEN CHRISTEL HER RESIGNATION: olivetree_ atlas Rockj inaki amorel_ rupam123456 dmarr goberle tiwake Guest40802 Zardoz Butt3rfly staircrusher f3bruary AndrewPRS brizz ozzloy oojacoboo mgdelacroix rpifan shtirlic AlwaysHigh Noskcaj relaxed popnfresh N3X15 emss _ppp fred`` BiGBOi_ darkalia mel00010 Dezponia[
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812 [06:02:43] <ziomecz> ââââââââââââââââââââ EL HAS REALIZED THAT SHE IS JUST NOT SMART ENOUGH TO BE AN OP AND HAS GIVEN CHRISTEL HER RESIGNATION: Gabemo CrypticSquared crayon benj_ aindilis mundus w0bni styks1987 sasukeskapa phar6oor remote fiQmob Zorroness Sue wzyy2 Marlon skagerak Namarrgon jor epsilon jhutchins Jacob843 vOYtEC
813 [06:02:43] <rjinswa> âââââââââââââââââââ VAP0R IS STILL PROMOTING WHITE SUPREMACY IN #/JOIN AND OPERS HAVE NOT STOPPED IT: cthuluh krytarik piklu treaki3 diniwed Ximensi0ns musti sunkan runde heap_ rr ejsf drathir bogus- jak2020 Mad_Hatemp kbob ArchDuke Bercik internot_ pawalls Wotac ThoMe d-fence__ superkulak adc zolo noobineer ska clor
814 [06:02:43] <gunda> ââââââââââ OPAL TELLS PEOPLE TO GET A GUN AND KILL THEMSELVES AND DEMIURGE (e) IS SUCH A PUSSY AND SCARED TO KLINE OPAL.: wzyy2 gmh wytchmaster hiyosi sander85 vonsyd0w tekk sunkan Yooka Jurkki trobotham foriin tarzeau_ jonathan_ preaction Ticho s0lar1s dak mz` n0p_ Poster blue patsToms peterrooney anthony25 drathir qmr hayer #deb rizzo _tremo benaiah infinity_ peope zmachine solos Galihom goberl
815 [06:02:43] <gunda> âââââââââââââââââââ OPAL IS DOING LIVE SEX SHOWS TO MAKE MONEY WHILE IN SCHOOL @ TRANNIESFORSALE.COM: Fusl Velgor nshp Shadowcrit sayo- LV-426 thunderrd Artox AndrewPRS rr mibo BiGBOi_ samouy x10 adoua_ LostSoul beingbrown vook sandman13 cendo meminemy adoua Arkaniad pixdamix zz_zz iskatu Dave[m]1 bobe bvs sIRwa3 Iri
816 [06:02:43] <ziomecz> ââââââââââ OPAL TELLS PEOPLE TO GET A GUN AND KILL THEMSELVES AND DEMIURGE (e) IS SUCH A PUSSY AND SCARED TO KLINE OPAL.: L235 danwellby bogus- remy jimmyTb_ ejsf digitalnomad91 Gazooo Ard1t Apeiron` shingouz Arrowmaster msb kriskropd Guest24088 kwmiebach lexruee somiaj Eryn_1983_FL crayon mhall119 Clouder diytto karlamrhein bnw Smuckerz tugrik Cosmophile grim4593 roastedsnowflake Zauberfisch mel
817 [06:02:43] <ziomecz> âââââââââââ VAP0R IS STILL PROMOTING WHITE SUPREMACY IN #/JOIN AND OPERS HAVE NOT STOPPED IT: colo-work tyranny12 Enrico_Menotti jas4711 teraflops mkam[m] jasperberries skagerak Bercik awhitlock8 mreznik abff Druid maf_p eir Tristan-Speccy uptime jrj Groenleer Iridos stwalkerster fast michael_mbp namix blazeme8 d-fence__ Tramp RickXy ohithere georgeowell jhq chrissl mattgirv krzych max-m
818 [06:02:43] <wiedz> ââââââââââââââ EL HAS REALIZED THAT SHE IS JUST NOT SMART ENOUGH TO BE AN OP AND HAS GIVEN CHRISTEL HER RESIGNATION: kerrhau icxcnika_ mavhq hns Zerant enoch85 Janhouse Geshman Hestben x-fak e1z0 gmh banging _KaszpiR_ SirLagz sethkush mtoroyarzo rkta kirkland High_Priest nobody vincent_c hipp Mathisen NeoBlaster duckydan Alina-malina orb jordanm cooldude bluene
819 [06:02:43] <gunda> âââââââââââââââââ OPAL TELLS PEOPLE TO GET A GUN AND KILL THEMSELVES AND DEMIURGE (e) IS SUCH A PUSSY AND SCARED TO KLINE OPAL.: lexruee APexil basicmiracle nopf Ceber zmachine nicdev Hoosilon meminemy sukaeto sekjun9878 matzeG_ folivora kanzure tobh_ richardjohn splinux nwe kunwon1 bryceml Devastator Sue thms_ xPucTu4 flipp Cosmophil
820 [06:02:43] <wiedz> ââââââââââââââââââ VAP0R IS STILL PROMOTING WHITE SUPREMACY IN #/JOIN AND OPERS HAVE NOT STOPPED IT: jmnk luz1 WebDawg nprs James_T lifeofguenter chiluk Guest40802 Ring0` Cerise Soliton riex teej scoopex cthuluh bzed dayten loddfafnir mtoroyarzo Acrisor RebelCoderRU mastensg adelyne Deific sIRwa3 olegfusion pet flokuehn piklu
821 [06:02:44] <wiedz> ââââââââââââ OPAL IS DOING LIVE SEX SHOWS TO MAKE MONEY WHILE IN SCHOOL @ TRANNIESFORSALE.COM: Enrico_Menotti babilen croddy le_pig ryan-c duoi turfrex hicks_ DLange bradjones Fusl konimex dixie7z_ peteski wooden_ Delta-One andhoy KjetilK jhutchins sandman13 cadeskywalker ShaRose TonyL LaunchDirector j7k6 Schmantinski Loomaanaatii Arroyo1010 talin superkulak judd RyanKnack Gurty
822 [06:02:44] <gunda> âââââââââââââ OPAL TELLS PEOPLE TO GET A GUN AND KILL THEMSELVES AND DEMIURGE (e) IS SUCH A PUSSY AND SCARED TO KLINE OPAL.: petemc Ishaq Netwolf amospalla urzds kline bureado atwar altendky kward olegfusion sidmo_ james41382 Arrowmaster flipp Profound Noah0504 benf phantomcircuit DK2 xar- rxo `z lionheartActual iter hexhaxtron SolarAquarion ibex coolchris ozzloy papitf
823 [06:02:44] <ziomecz> âââââââââââââââââââ EL HAS REALIZED THAT SHE IS JUST NOT SMART ENOUGH TO BE AN OP AND HAS GIVEN CHRISTEL HER RESIGNATION: Guest24088 mcintosh Natrick x-fak frlttrwrd mavhq jesopo eb0t_ mattgirv fcanela shingouz volodim Henry151 Toris ledeni TReK ramshadow Mahe dbristow abff heinrich5991 alxd nezZario jim PaulePanter
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826 [06:02:44] <ziomecz> ââââââââââ EL HAS BEEN STRUGGLING WITH FINDING OUT THAT EMERSON AND DAX ARE GAY QUEENS: JStoker smlx sIRwa3 j7k6 fiQmob Zerant mattgirv PIBER b0l3x mar77i stealthii remote dixie7z_ Ad1Tech heurist JelmerD sekjun9878 Saar wzyy2 luz1 armin basicmiracle dos1 nicoulaj DarkDevil Jim[m] Iridos apollojustice sloucher teclo- JyZyXEL Mad_Hatemp digdilem typosaurus uwd_ verboese crayon Hijiri introom jandr
827 [06:02:44] <ziomecz> âââââââââââââ OPAL IS DOING LIVE SEX SHOWS TO MAKE MONEY WHILE IN SCHOOL @ TRANNIESFORSALE.COM: sidewalk PhonicUK infinity_ roylaprattep Cyb3r-Assassin TReK mumixam james41382 toorop tekk Emmanuel_Chanel pelegreno_ mgdelacroix roastedsnowflake safe babyflakes Arroyo1010 Voldenet Namidairo rjinswa somiaj exezin simonlnu benjen n4n0` DzAirmaX alexlist cheapie Kamilion kwa
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831 [06:03:29] <ngc0202> wow.
832 [06:03:38] <fishcooker> qlipper like awal1_ bazhang
833 [06:04:00] <sandman13> Operators!
834 [06:04:06] <fishcooker> what a spammer!
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836 [06:04:31] <LocaMocha> Kindly refrain from commenting on it.
837 [06:04:34] <r3m> you all know he/she still here waiting for reaction? dont feed the troll
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850 [06:16:41] <jasperberries> #fortune
851 [06:16:41] <opal> Your fortune: Better not tell you now
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877 [06:40:04] <blessedekko> if i am following this guide: replaced-url
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879 [06:41:19] <blessedekko> (assuming wlan0 / wlan1 as my cards)
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920 [07:08:29] <pale3> anyone experience relocation error on chromium startup in debian stable
921 [07:08:57] <pale3> /usr/lib/chromium/chromium: relocation error: /usr/lib/chromium/chromium: symbol jpeg_skip_scanlines, version LIBJPEG_6.2 not defined in file libjpeg.so.62 with link time reference
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981 [07:34:33] <Chr|s> Im either stupid....or just really stupid. I downloaded the cinnamon live cd for debian and I have it loaded, how do I install? isn't their an option to install using GUI?
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991 [07:38:02] <awal1_> Chr|s, live images are not really the recommended ones for install
992 [07:38:22] <Chr|s> blah, I figured I could install from a live cd lol
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994 [07:39:29] <jordanm> there was a live installer, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's not around anymore. the team working on it was small
995 [07:40:02] <Chr|s> oh alright
996 [07:40:10] <tamarindo> Chr|s: but i guess there's still an "install" icon on the live desktop
997 [07:40:41] <Chr|s> yeah, I figured that was the case, but no install icon here
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999 [07:41:33] <tamarindo> Chr|s: not even in the menus? things change so quickly, i'm getting old :-D
1000 [07:42:19] <Chr|s> hah I hear you there. Nope, checked the menus, I don't see anything.
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1002 [07:42:58] <Chr|s> I was suprised how fast the LiveCD loaded up. Just like a regular desktop
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1004 [07:45:56] <tamarindo> yeah... as far as i understood the debian live project will disappear because of lack of developers
1005 [07:46:06] <tamarindo> that's quite sad
1006 [07:46:56] <tamarindo> (just now that it loads quickly! :-) )
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1056 [08:19:41] <jelly> pale3: what does this say: dpkg -l chromium libjpeg62-turbo | tail -n 2
1057 [08:20:37] <pale3> jelly: ii chromium 62.0.3202.89-1~deb9u1 amd64 web browser
1058 [08:20:39] <pale3> ii libjpeg62-turbo:amd64 1:1.5.1-2 amd64 libjpeg-turbo JPEG runtime library
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1064 [08:22:22] <jelly> ,v chromium --arch amd64
1065 [08:22:23] <judd> Package: chromium on amd64 -- wheezy: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; jessie: 57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; stretch: 61.0.3163.100-1~deb9u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 62.0.3202.89-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 62.0.3202.89-1~deb9u1; buster: 62.0.3202.89-1; sid: 62.0.3202.89-1; experimental: 63.0.3239.30-1
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1068 [08:24:14] <pale3> jelly: what is (,v)?
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1072 [08:27:16] <jelly> asking the bot to list versions aviailable from debian repos at present time
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1074 [08:28:03] <pale3> ohh, nice
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1078 [08:28:52] <pale3> jelly: can you reproduce same?
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1126 [08:49:16] <jelly> pale3: nope, same versions of amd64 packages work fine here. Can you show the output of: ldd /usr/lib/chromium/chromium|grep jpe
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1128 [08:49:53] <pale3> jelly: libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x00007efd1b8b9000)
1129 [08:50:08] <jelly> that's very old.
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1131 [08:50:30] <jelly> pale3: dpkg -S $(readlink -f /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62)
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1134 [08:51:17] <pale3> dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.6
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1138 [08:53:22] <jelly> pale3: move that /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.6 away from that directory, run "ldconfig" as root, and try again
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1141 [08:54:30] <pale3> jelly:
1142 [08:54:31] <pale3> thx
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1195 [09:25:12] <stivex> Hi everyone! I'm trying to configure a camcorder with firewire port (Canon MV960) on Debian Jessie. I'm trying to use dvgrab or kino apps for capturing video. It seems that OS detects the PCI card wich it has the firewire port, but not the camcorder.
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1203 [09:32:31] <RoyK> stivex: replaced-url
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1227 [09:48:18] <darxmurf> why my XFCE if not showing USB key when I plug them now ?
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1230 [09:48:26] <darxmurf> I have to mount by hand
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1264 [10:05:24] <darxmurf> back
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1269 [10:07:52] <abff> is it with the same usb key or is it every different usb storage device
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1277 [10:08:56] <darxmurf> fixed, I installed gvfs and all good now
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1282 [10:09:12] <darxmurf> I lost some packages the other day after a weird apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade
1283 [10:09:27] <darxmurf> maybe gvfs went away too at this time
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1289 [10:10:21] <bryanfrommacau> Hi
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1291 [10:10:32] <bryanfrommacau> How can I make xrandr changes permanent in debian?
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1294 [10:11:48] <abff> darxmurf maybe, but that shouldn't be necessary, in xfce all of that is under Settings > Removable Drives and Media
1295 [10:12:06] <Allanis> You can place your xrandr stuff in .xinitrc
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1306 [10:15:18] <bryanfrommacau> ok I'll try that
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1311 [10:17:28] <darxmurf> abff: yep it was configured correctly there
1312 [10:17:40] <darxmurf> but apparently it needs gvfs to auto show the devices
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1322 [10:21:26] <Allanis> All good bryanfrommacau?
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1324 [10:22:07] <richvdh> whois runciter
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1328 [10:22:14] <richvdh> er
1329 [10:22:15] <richvdh> sorry
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1333 [10:23:00] <abff> well done!
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1347 [10:31:58] <mrig> Hello
1348 [10:32:22] <bryaninmacau> I can't find any .xinitrc file
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1350 [10:32:41] <bryaninmacau> should I make one?
1351 [10:33:09] <mrig> I am just running a CD check from the installer on the 1st installation DVD which I have on a USB key, it is failing the test. Any thoughts as to how best to proceed.
1352 [10:33:27] <Allanis> bryaninmacau: Yeah, feel free to make one.
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1354 [10:35:33] <dexta> gm
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1356 [10:35:56] <mrig> I have just run a sha1sum on the iso file that was used to make the drive and that is fine.
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1368 [10:44:51] <bryaninmacau> Creating the .xinitrc file in the user directory had no effect
1369 [10:45:01] <bryaninmacau> should it be in a different location?
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1372 [10:48:50] <Allanis> bryaninmacau: Yes, xinitrc lives in your user directory. It might need some additional configuration. I'm sorry I'm at work so I can't really help extensively.
1373 [10:49:03] <sillyslux> bryaninmacau, you also have to put your xrandr commands in there
1374 [10:49:25] <Allanis> You could also try ~/.xsession though to start it upon launching X.
1375 [10:50:10] <bryaninmacau> I see a .xsession-errors file, but no .xsession file
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1378 [10:52:04] <sillyslux> also my wm supports .xprofile :/
1379 [10:52:22] <bryaninmacau> Does it make a difference if I'm using lxde?
1380 [10:52:27] <sillyslux> an other thing you could do is configuring lightdm
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1383 [10:53:04] <Allanis> bryaninmacau: That doesn't make any difference no.
1384 [10:53:39] <sillyslux> i use greeter-setup-script = /etc/lightdm/screen_setup.sh and do it from there
1385 [10:53:52] <CyberManifest> are the proper permissions in place?
1386 [10:53:57] <bryaninmacau> That will run automatically?
1387 [10:54:03] <bryaninmacau> Anything that will work will be fine
1388 [10:54:21] <bryaninmacau> right now I just manually run a shell script every time I boot
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1390 [10:54:29] <sillyslux> the greeter-setup-script is run automatically
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1393 [10:55:25] <Allanis> Doesn't arandr create any startup scripts I wonder?
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1395 [10:55:35] <sillyslux> it's defined after [Seat:*] autologin-stuff
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1397 [10:56:05] <sillyslux> if you want autologin
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1399 [10:56:29] <sillyslux> just make sure [Seat:*] is the section in your config
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1401 [10:57:17] <sillyslux> i also use session-setup-script with the same file, dunno if that's needed
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1410 [11:01:42] <jeanjack> hi there
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1412 [11:02:28] <jeanjack> i'm upgrading a server from jessie to stretch. I have issues with the rpcbind packages ...
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1414 [11:03:08] <jeanjack> when i stop the rpcbind service, the dist-upgrade works, but at reboot I have an error
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1418 [11:04:17] <babilen> One might wonder what that error could be ;)
1419 [11:04:36] <bryaninmacau> I copied monitorsettings.sh to the lightdm folder
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1421 [11:04:49] <bryaninmacau> I found the lightdm.conf file, and the seat section
1422 [11:04:55] <bryaninmacau> but I don't really understand how to edit it
1423 [11:05:46] <jeanjack> [DEPEND] Dependancy failed for NFS server and services.
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1426 [11:06:16] <sillyslux> this is the script i use in lightdm.conf replaced-url
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1428 [11:07:09] <sillyslux> bryaninmacau, if you're in an terminal, you can use nano, vi, pico, joe to edit it
1429 [11:07:25] <sillyslux> you'll have to do it as user root
1430 [11:07:40] <bryaninmacau> that url looks like it has your xrandr settings
1431 [11:07:54] <bryaninmacau> is that really the configuration file?
1432 [11:08:13] <sillyslux> this script is called from lightdm
1433 [11:08:22] <bryaninmacau> ok
1434 [11:08:32] <bryaninmacau> I have my shell script ready, I just wasn't sure how to call it
1435 [11:08:57] <nunojpg> on a minimum debootstrap stretch installation, I see that dhclient is started on boot, and is not restarted on eth down/up. Who is starting dhclient, and is there a package to trigger a dhcp lease request just after eth up?
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1439 [11:09:49] <sillyslux> in lightdm.conf find the line that reads [Seat:*] make sure it's not commented, then add the lines for greeter-setup-script and seession-setup-script, you can find all examples in lightdm.conf
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1442 [11:11:38] <sillyslux> nunojpg, you can configure your nic to do dhcp automatically in /etc/network/interfaces
1443 [11:12:52] <nunojpg> sillyslux, thanks. I am doing that, but in case the cable is disconnected on boot, than dhclient will sleep for 5 minutes until it tries again, while on desktop installations it is triggered as soon as eth comes up
1444 [11:13:02] <sillyslux> like auto enp1s0 \n iface enp1s0 inet dhcp
1445 [11:13:42] <sillyslux> sleep for 5 minutes? seems oddly long, dunno about that
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1448 [11:15:00] <sillyslux> by desktop installations i assume you mean network-manager? there's to little i know about that either :/
1449 [11:15:16] <moritz_> hello. I am running stretch and tried to upgrade mpv from backports which uninstalled my nvidia driver. I removed mpv again and tried to reinstall the nvidia driver but apt complains about broken packages. Of which there are none.
1450 [11:15:18] <moritz_> replaced-url
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1452 [11:15:40] <moritz_> (apt-get install nvidia-driver)
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1456 [11:16:39] <nunojpg> sillyslux: yes. Or maybe ConnMan. I was trying to understand who is getting the kernel event to trigger a new dhcp request
1457 [11:16:43] <nunojpg> thanks anyway!
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1459 [11:18:03] <bryaninmacau> do I just put the path name after greeter-setup-script?
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1461 [11:18:11] <bryaninmacau> or just the filename?
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1464 [11:18:16] <sillyslux> the full path
1465 [11:18:51] <sillyslux> like greeter-setup-script = /etc/lightdm/screen_setup.sh
1466 [11:18:58] <moritz_> Any ideas how to fix this?
1467 [11:19:05] <sillyslux> and the script can be located anywhere
1468 [11:19:20] <petn-randall> !bat
1469 [11:19:20] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
1470 [11:19:30] <petn-randall> moritz_: Can you provide all the info above in a single paste? ^^^
1471 [11:19:38] <moritz_> Sure a moment.
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1476 [11:21:31] <dff> is it possible to mount a HFS+ file system on a USB drive with debian using hfsprogs and then have a macos client read/write to it via smb?
1477 [11:22:06] <bryaninmacau> I think I broke my machine :/
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1479 [11:22:56] <sillyslux> meh, how so?
1480 [11:23:26] <bryaninmacau> When I try to boot up, the screen just starts flashing
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1483 [11:24:46] <moritz_> petn-randall: replaced-url
1484 [11:24:50] <moritz_> Thank you very much.
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1486 [11:24:56] <sillyslux> use ctrl-alt-f1 to switch to a terminal and fix or revert the changes you made to your lightdm.conf
1487 [11:25:38] <sillyslux> and/or your setup script
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1489 [11:25:56] <rom1v> hi
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1499 [11:28:31] <bryaninmacau> ok, back to normal o.o
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1502 [11:30:49] <bryaninmacau> my file just had xrandr --newmode, and xrandr --addmode lines
1503 [11:31:02] <sillyslux> no shebang?
1504 [11:31:16] <bryaninmacau> oh
1505 [11:31:17] <bryaninmacau> no
1506 [11:31:25] <sillyslux> see the 1st line in mine
1507 [11:31:51] <bryaninmacau> So if I add that, it might work?
1508 [11:31:56] <sillyslux> yes
1509 [11:32:10] <bryaninmacau> ok, I'll give it a try
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1511 [11:32:33] <bryaninmacau> gtg, thanks for the help!
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1519 [11:35:17] <dff> anyone in here have experience with hfsprogs?
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1527 [11:42:13] <jeanjack> can be my issue from the systemd mounts ?
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1531 [11:44:21] <gladioacuto> hello everybody
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1536 [11:46:14] <gladioacuto> BIOS is last-updated on my Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon 5th gen, running stretch. However I get those horrible lines in dmesg, how to fix? Expecially for CPU temp...even it does not seem to overheat and to oversteer the fan..please help. replaced-url
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1541 [11:49:15] <gun1x> guys, i found within /var/lib/libvirt/qemu aes master keys and monitor sockets for all deleted VMs. are these still needed ?
1542 [11:49:52] <petn-randall> moritz_: Ah, you're running a mix of stable/testing/unstable. It's not recommended to mix those. My first guess is that you have some library installed from testing/sid that nvidia-driver depends on somewhere down the dependency chain.
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1546 [11:50:46] <petn-randall> moritz_: What you can do is try running 'apt install nvidia-driver-libs' and check what dependency fails to install, then run 'apt install <failed_dependency>', and repeat until you find the cause.
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1548 [11:51:42] <moritz_> i will paste the aptitude output it is more informative. libglvnd0 is the problem.
1549 [11:51:46] * moritz_ is rebooting
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1553 [11:53:30] <petn-randall> moritz_: Is there a reason you've got testing/sid in your sources.list?
1554 [11:53:47] <moritz_> Yes. remmina-rdp. Nothing else.
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1565 [11:56:50] <petn-randall> moritz_: The better way is to make a backport, it's quite simple.
1566 [11:56:56] <petn-randall> ,v remmina-rdp
1567 [11:56:57] <judd> No package named 'remmina-rdp' was found in amd64.
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1569 [11:57:23] <petn-randall> ,v remmina-plugin-rdp
1570 [11:57:24] <judd> Package: remmina-plugin-rdp on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.0.0-4+deb7u1; jessie: 1.1.1-2; stretch-backports: 1.2.0-rcgit.24-2~bpo9+1; buster: 1.2.0-rcgit.24-3; sid: 1.2.0-rcgit.24-3
1571 [11:57:34] <petn-randall> moritz_: ^^^ do you mean this package?
1572 [11:57:54] <moritz_> :) Yes. Wasn't in backports when i needed it.
1573 [11:57:54] <gun1x> guys, anyone ?
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1576 [11:58:52] <moritz_> Aptitude output: replaced-url
1577 [12:00:13] <moritz_> In my defense i never had a mixed system break. But i never did it on a machine that needed the proprietary nvidia driver.
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1582 [12:01:59] <petn-randall> moritz_: I'd then remove testing and sid fro sources.list, and then install the backports version of remmina-plugin-rdp, then downgrade any other packages that got accidentally pulled in from testing.
1583 [12:02:03] <petn-randall> !downgrade
1584 [12:02:03] <dpkg> Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>.
1585 [12:02:21] <petn-randall> moritz_: If it's only 1-2 packages, chances are good that you can get away with it.
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1588 [12:03:15] <petn-randall> moritz_: You can do that by temporarily pinning stable with priority 1001, and taking a close look at what packages get downgraded.
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1595 [12:06:07] <notabot_> Hello all - trying to figure out how I can install openswan on Debian Jessie - any pointers?
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1599 [12:07:05] <moritz_> petn-randall: like this? replaced-url
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1602 [12:08:56] <gpunk> replaced-url
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1605 [12:10:22] <moritz_> Because it does not offer me any up or downgrades .
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1607 [12:12:20] <notabot_> gpunk: Thanks - I saw few options for StrongSwan - however, is it possible to install openswan on Debian is what I was specifically looking for.
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1609 [12:12:52] <gpunk> yes you can bro
1610 [12:13:31] <petn-randall> moritz_: does 'apt-cache policy' show a 1001 priority?
1611 [12:13:52] <petn-randall> moritz_: You could also try 'apt-cach policy libc6', the stretch package should be 1001.
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1615 [12:17:13] <notabot_> gpunk: apt-get doesnt work for openswan, I downloaded the source code for openswan, extracted and run the two install commands (make programs and make install) - it's not getting install - which openvpn doesn't give any output.
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1617 [12:18:07] <gpunk> make programs ? openvpn ? what are talking about ?
1618 [12:18:19] <petn-randall> !doesnt work
1619 [12:18:19] <dpkg> "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>.
1620 [12:18:22] <gpunk> just add contrib to your source list
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1622 [12:18:25] <petn-randall> ,v openswan
1623 [12:18:27] <judd> Package: openswan on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:2.6.37-3+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 1:2.6.37-3+deb7u1
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1625 [12:19:09] <gpunk> brb
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1627 [12:19:26] <moritz_> policy does not know a 1001 prio. petn-randall
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1629 [12:19:44] <moritz_> *display
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1631 [12:20:05] <petn-randall> notabot_: Maybe tell us about the goal you're trying to accomplish, that would allow us to provide better solutions to your problem.
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1636 [12:21:28] <petn-randall> moritz_: Maybe you have other pins that are overriding this?
1637 [12:21:55] <notabot_> petn-randall: Mainly research and learning - I was trying to follow this tutorial on debian jessie - replaced-url
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1639 [12:22:34] <moritz_> No other pins. a=stretch vs n=stretch is unlikely an issue, right?
1640 [12:23:34] <moritz_> Does not change the situation.
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1643 [12:24:14] <petn-randall> moritz_: a=stable?
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1646 [12:25:18] <moritz_> nope
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1651 [12:26:56] <moritz_> No results for testing or unstable when searching: aptitude search '~S ~i ~Aunstable'
1652 [12:27:13] <moritz_> Which is weird because of libglvnd0
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1666 [12:31:36] <L3gacy> Getting a HP DL360 G7. Is Debian 9 a good choice for LAMP?
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1677 [12:36:08] <dTal> does the 'P' stand for PHP or Perl?
1678 [12:36:32] <dTal> Either one is a questionable choice in 2017
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1680 [12:36:56] <moritz_> petn-randall: Thank you very much for your help and patience. While i am still unable to install the driver meta package. I now have by the resolution power aptitude the full GPU support and nvidia driver. And no obvious broken packages or upgrade trouble. So i leave it at this.
1681 [12:37:12] <moritz_> @everyone thanks for being around and have a nice day
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1702 [12:50:11] <petn-randall> moritz_: You're welcome! Glad you got it fixed.
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1704 [12:50:58] <petn-randall> L3gacy: Really depends on your application. Debian stretch ships with PHP 7, so if you have legacy applications that only run with PHP 5, it might not be the best choice.
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1706 [12:51:31] <gpunk> it ships with both
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1709 [12:52:48] <petn-randall> gpunk: Can you prove that please?
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1711 [12:53:09] <gpunk> i have a server , stretch, that runs 5 sites with php5
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1713 [12:53:24] <petn-randall> gpunk: Sure, but you didn't get php5 from Debian.
1714 [12:53:32] <petn-randall> *Debian stretch
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1716 [12:53:57] <gpunk> no , from debian stretch :)
1717 [12:54:08] <petn-randall> gpunk: Which packages?
1718 [12:54:20] <gpunk> php5...
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1720 [12:54:53] <petn-randall> ,v php5
1721 [12:54:54] <judd> Package: php5 on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.4.45-0+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 5.4.45-0+deb7u11; jessie: 5.6.30+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 5.6.30+dfsg-0+deb8u1
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1723 [12:55:03] <petn-randall> gpunk: It's not in stretch. ^^
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1729 [12:57:30] <moritz_> gpunk: maybe from replaced-url
1730 [12:58:02] <gpunk> no, it s an upgrade from jessie
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1732 [12:58:24] <moritz_> pinned?
1733 [12:58:33] <gpunk> i guess
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1737 [12:59:41] <gpunk> anyway, you can run PHP5 sites with stretch ...
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1739 [12:59:46] <gpunk> you just have ... to fiddle
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1747 [13:07:51] <petn-randall> gpunk: Sure, but at this point it's not supported in #debian anymore.
1748 [13:08:08] <gpunk> i know :)
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1750 [13:11:08] <babilen> I'd keep those sites on jessie, upgrade the codebase to run with php7 (you have to anyway) and *then* upgrade to stretch and php7
1751 [13:11:34] <babilen> Why is it *always* PHP? It's almost as if they intentionally make sure that upgrading from one version to the next is a major pain in the arse
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1753 [13:11:45] <babilen> (minor version that is!)
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1782 [13:30:53] <ZSky> Hi
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1785 [13:31:45] <kde2535> Friends, yesterday I asked for help regarding my laptop heating up only in debain even while idle and not at all while using other distributions like fedora and ubuntu. I got suggestion to try cpupower and I throttled cpu to minimum with it but it was still heating up. Today I tried installing proprietary firmware from non-free repository for cpu, gpu and ethernet (just in case!), and after few hours of usage and observation (lm-sensors), it seems to have
1786 [13:31:47] <kde2535> worked. Its not heating anymore. Though undesirable, its better than frying my laptop. I read similar thread on debian forum which was unresolved. So, in case if someone else also have similar issue than it could be a possible solution for them.
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1788 [13:32:07] <ZSky> When someone sends mail to "hello@198.51.100.0", let's say 198.51.100.0 is my IP
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1791 [13:32:17] <ZSky> what happens? who collects the email?
1792 [13:32:24] <ZSky> by default on a debian
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1794 [13:32:45] <gpunk> exim I think
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1796 [13:33:07] <gpunk> but will reject it
1797 [13:33:13] <gpunk> no hello user
1798 [13:33:23] <ZSky> not postfix?
1799 [13:33:35] <gpunk> it is not installed by default
1800 [13:33:38] <gpunk> it s exim
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1803 [13:33:58] <gpunk> unless they changed in stretch
1804 [13:33:59] <jelly> ZSky: that's an invalid email address
1805 [13:34:23] <ZSky> how to redirect all *@ip to myaddress@gmail.com ?
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1812 [13:35:17] <jim> kde2535, which part is undesirable?
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1814 [13:35:56] <ZSky> gpunk: i tried to send a mail to root@<myip> from gmail
1815 [13:35:59] <kde2535> the proprietary blob part ;)
1816 [13:36:10] <ZSky> gpunk: then i entered "mail" in bash, but I don't see it
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1818 [13:36:11] <gpunk> and ?
1819 [13:36:44] <ZSky> any idea why?
1820 [13:36:49] <gpunk> toto@$IP is not really a valid email address
1821 [13:36:52] <syslq> dns directive in interfaces file is simply being ignored (dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4) and /etc/resolv.con is repopulated although I'm trying to remove entries. (I've disabled network manager). Any idea on what is causing this?
1822 [13:36:55] <gpunk> gmail didnt send it
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1825 [13:38:46] <ZSky> gpunk: is toto@$IP not allowed ?
1826 [13:38:53] <ZSky> by standard mail protocols?
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1828 [13:39:02] <jim> oh ok
1829 [13:39:02] <gpunk> ypu
1830 [13:39:13] <gpunk> yes*
1831 [13:39:54] <ZSky> so how to send email from gmail or yahoo or anything else to a server which has just an IP but no domain name e.g. example.com ?
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1836 [13:41:25] <gpunk> a shell script
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1838 [13:41:46] <gpunk> but smtp has to be configured in the $IP
1839 [13:41:57] <gpunk> a shell script or manually
1840 [13:42:08] <gpunk> by telenetting to port 25 ...
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1842 [13:42:40] <jelly> ZSky: if you want to use an IP literal in the email address, it should be enclosed in [], user@[some.ip.add.ress]
1843 [13:42:57] <RoyK> ZSky: quite a few web servers will block things not from a known domain, so better get a domain and register a host on it
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1845 [13:43:14] <jelly> ZSky: that's what rfc5321/5322 say. In practice, not many sender-side tools will support this.
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1847 [13:44:07] <darxmurf> When you find an old website still alive on an old server and you open the index.html page: <META content="Microsoft FrontPage 6.0" name=GENERATOR></HEAD><FRAMESET
1848 [13:44:10] <darxmurf> Oo
1849 [13:44:35] <gpunk> darxmurf they usually dont even have a password set
1850 [13:44:41] <gpunk> these FP enables sites
1851 [13:44:43] <RoyK> darxmurf: I remember a script made to fix such pages, it was called "demoronizer"
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1853 [13:45:01] <ZSky> gpunk: i have domain names, but here it's just for a test, on a sandbox server
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1855 [13:45:04] <ZSky> without any domain
1856 [13:45:35] <RoyK> well, register somebloodytest.your.tld, then
1857 [13:45:40] <RoyK> it's just a dns entry
1858 [13:46:19] <gpunk> from all the questions you'r asking
1859 [13:46:29] <CrtxReavr> I have to script the creation of a user. . . I just want to specify the username & UID, which is working fine, but I'm getting prompted for password, real name, phone number, etc. . . how can I just create the user with useradd or adduser, have no password (installing a public ssh key) and not bother with the other crap?
1860 [13:46:33] <gpunk> i think you dont even have smtp configured
1861 [13:46:48] <ZSky> gpunk: it's a default Debian
1862 [13:46:51] <ZSky> isn't it installed by default?
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1864 [13:47:11] <gpunk> see if it s running , lsof -i | 25
1865 [13:47:22] <gpunk> |grep 25 *
1866 [13:47:29] <ZSky> nothing, right
1867 [13:47:32] <ZSky> so no smtp installed
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1869 [13:47:39] <ZSky> i should probab install postfix right?
1870 [13:47:46] <gpunk> only local delivery
1871 [13:47:57] <gpunk> I prefer postfix
1872 [13:48:02] <gpunk> thats what I use
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1875 [13:48:17] <ZSky> which one is the most common, as of 2017?
1876 [13:48:31] <gpunk> gmail
1877 [13:48:35] <gpunk> lol
1878 [13:48:49] <nulleip> has the package intel-microcode anything to do with CVE-2017-5706 and CVE-2017-5709 ?
1879 [13:48:50] <gpunk> I think postfix
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1882 [13:49:43] <josecapurro> ZSky: postfix
1883 [13:49:54] <jelly> !cve lookup CVE-2017-5706
1884 [13:49:55] <dpkg> Information about the security advisory CVE-2017-5706 may be found at replaced-url
1885 [13:49:55] <ZSky> postfix sendmail qmail exim => the most well known is postfix right?
1886 [13:50:14] <RoyK> gpunk: or the modern way, 'ss -tlp sport = :smtp' ;)
1887 [13:50:21] <RoyK> qmail?!?!?
1888 [13:50:29] <RoyK> that's long dead
1889 [13:50:35] <jelly> ZSky: probably, even tho debian defaults to exim4
1890 [13:50:39] <jelly> ,v qmail
1891 [13:50:40] <judd> Package: qmail on amd64 -- jessie: 1.06-5; wheezy: 1.06-5; buster: 1.06-6+b1; sid: 1.06-6+b1; stretch: 1.06-6+b1
1892 [13:50:45] <jelly> RoyK: it'sjust resting
1893 [13:50:47] <bezaban> a 2015 survery reported out of 1,086,906 servers with banners 53% exim and 30.25% postfix
1894 [13:50:57] * RoyK uses postfix
1895 [13:51:10] <bezaban> but that can just mean postfix admins disable their banners ;)
1896 [13:51:15] * bezaban uses both
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1898 [13:51:33] <gpunk> i was jocking saying Gmail not Qmail
1899 [13:51:36] <josecapurro> I disable the banners. And use postfix.
1900 [13:51:37] <jelly> you can't disable the banner, it's part of the protocol...
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1902 [13:51:52] <jelly> you can change it a bit.
1903 [13:51:59] <gpunk> disable the veriosn info only
1904 [13:52:06] <gpunk> lleave the banner
1905 [13:52:08] <josecapurro> jelly: Right. I mean, i do not show the name of the daemon there
1906 [13:52:24] <bezaban> sure, change name of the mta which was relevant for the survey
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1910 [13:53:36] <ZSky> to do a "catch them all" forward *@IP or *@domain to anadress@gmail.com
1911 [13:53:45] <ZSky> should I install exim or postfix, which one would be easier?
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1914 [13:54:00] <gpunk> ZSky we said postfix
1915 [13:54:27] <jelly> ZSky: don't do a catchall address, that's not sane.
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1919 [13:55:18] <ZSky> apt-get install postfix i guess?
1920 [13:55:26] <jelly> ZSky: use postfix' recipient_delimiter and addresses like username-anything@domain
1921 [13:55:26] <gpunk> usually
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1934 [13:59:57] <petn-randall> ZSky: I have the feeling we're backtracking to your actual problem you're trying to solve. Why not tell us about that? Sending mails to IP addresses is a wrong in the first place, same goes for catch-all for mail.
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1939 [14:02:10] <ZSky> petn-randall: @IPvsdomain at the end I'll use domain instead of IP. It was just for sandboxing
1940 [14:02:27] <jelly> !goal
1941 [14:02:28] <dpkg> Describe your goal, not what you think the solution is.
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1943 [14:02:31] <ZSky> petn-randall: @catch-all it was just to test, then I'll do a more proper thing
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1945 [14:02:51] <petn-randall> ZSky: Yes, what is the "more proper thing" you're trying to accomplish?
1946 [14:02:55] <ZSky> Ok I explain
1947 [14:03:03] <ZSky> I'm launching a small community site
1948 [14:03:37] <ZSky> and I want people to have an email on it, that redirects to their real email
1949 [14:03:45] <ZSky> See e.g. craigslist
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1952 [14:04:04] <ZSky> you want to answer to an ad? You send a mail to ad-FDsdf8723@craiglist.org
1953 [14:04:13] <ZSky> and then it redirects to the real email
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1956 [14:04:43] <ZSky> so I have a key=>value database, like ad-FDsdf8723 => abc@gmail.com
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1959 [14:05:00] <ZSky> and I need to catch ad-FDsdf8723@mydomain and forward it to abc@gmail.com
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1961 [14:05:07] <ZSky> this is the goal
1962 [14:05:16] <petn-randall> ZSky: If you have a publicly facing mail server, you 100% DO NOT want to have a catch-all in any form. It will only take days until that is abused for spam relay, and then you'll be on every DNSBL on the planet, and getting off will take you ages.
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1965 [14:05:54] <ZSky> petn-randall: the catchall would only have been a test to see if i'm able to forward anything to an external email service
1966 [14:06:02] <ZSky> it was just a test
1967 [14:07:15] <gpunk> i'd do a regular mail server for x.domain , the play with aliases
1968 [14:07:19] <gpunk> then*
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1970 [14:07:40] <jelly> ZSky: you can't just forward mails like that in year 2017; to have any kind of decent deliverability you'll have to rewrite envelope sender, and take care of bounces that come back. Before that you want to learn what "envelope sender" and "dkim" and "dmarc" and "spf" is.
1971 [14:08:07] <jelly> forwards like that have been mostly broken for a few years now.
1972 [14:08:08] <ZSky> I already use SPF, DKIM etc. for my other servers
1973 [14:08:19] <ZSky> so this is ok
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1975 [14:08:49] <ZSky> gpunk can you explain?
1976 [14:08:54] <gpunk> simple aliases will do it
1977 [14:08:58] <ZSky> petn-randall: do you see my goal?
1978 [14:09:05] <jelly> fine, but your mails will end up in spam folders or undelivered
1979 [14:09:20] <ZSky> jelly: I'll use SPF, DKIM etc.
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1981 [14:10:05] <gpunk> in the alias files you have a list : from-username to-username
1982 [14:10:23] <petn-randall> ZSky: I find that approach a bit cumbersome. Why not have a web form where you can type an answer and have to solve a captcha?
1983 [14:10:39] <gpunk> to-username can be an address
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1985 [14:11:04] <petn-randall> ZSky: Then you don't have to play around with mail relaying, etc.
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1988 [14:11:32] <petn-randall> Or rather, you don't have to solve the hard problem of relaying mail in a safe and proper fashion without landing on a DNSBL.
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1991 [14:12:56] <jelly> ZSky: you can't use SPF unless you own the sender domain. This means simple aliases / forwards won't work for your use case.
1992 [14:13:26] <petn-randall> this ^
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1995 [14:14:24] <jelly> ZSky: eg. someone from gmail will send mail to <ad-34701@zsky.example.org>; if you forward that as-is with a simple virtual alias, your server will send out mail with original envelope sender, @gmail.com
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1997 [14:15:49] <jelly> ZSky: so now there's a mail coming from your server IP, and saying "I come from gmail sender". Gmail publishes its own SPF and dmarc, where they say "this is not my IP" and your forwarded message is regarded as spam, and your server IP is regarded as source of spam
1998 [14:16:20] <ForceRecon> does anyone have any information on how to send smtp mail with a pty console attachment
1999 [14:16:41] <gpunk> you mean manually ?
2000 [14:16:47] <jelly> ForceRecon: use mutt or snail
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2002 [14:16:56] <ForceRecon> I was just reading that..
2003 [14:17:06] <ForceRecon> thanks..
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2005 [14:17:23] <jelly> echo test | mutt -s "test subject" -a example.zip -- recipient@example.org
2006 [14:17:45] <ForceRecon> will it know which smtp server to use to get out?
2007 [14:17:50] <jelly> no
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2009 [14:17:54] <ZSky> jelly: ok i see what you mean
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2011 [14:18:06] <ZSky> then I can outsource the email relaying (e.g. sendgrid or others)
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2013 [14:18:47] <ZSky> but first I need a way to receive emails from ad-34701@zsky.example.org and redirect it to a python script or PHP, that will then call Sendgrid to do the work
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2015 [14:19:40] <jelly> ForceRecon: you will have to configure mutt to use correct, existing sender address (set from=... in muttrc), and use local MTA or configure mutt to use your existing authenticated outgoing smtp server (set smtp_url...)
2016 [14:19:54] <petn-randall> ZSky: Why is it important the message comes via SMTP? That's not good from a UX perspective, especially when there's a web page where your users are coming from.
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2019 [14:20:15] <ForceRecon> jelly, you are so the person.. thanks I will read up on it
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2021 [14:22:39] <fast> I'm Running an apt mirror on debian wheezy. I also have two machines connecting to the mirror, one running jessie and the other one running stretch. When I execute apt-get update on jessie everything is working as expected. When doing the same on the stretch machine apt-get update fails with "The following signatures were invalid <MYKEYID>". I checked that the key is imported, I also checked the release notes
2022 [14:22:45] <fast> fore the requirements for APT repositories. I made checked that the InRelease file exists, it has SHA256 checksums and the key is long enough. Any hints on this issue?
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2024 [14:24:46] <ZSky> petn-randall: it has to be done via email
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2030 [14:25:37] <bolovanos_> why is that "ls -l" does not list ".dir" ? debian 9...
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2033 [14:26:06] <gpunk> ls -la ?
2034 [14:26:23] <bolovanos_> yes it did the trick
2035 [14:26:24] <bolovanos_> thank you
2036 [14:26:39] <jelly> why? because it's not supposed to
2037 [14:27:00] <petn-randall> ZSky: Where does this requirement come from?
2038 [14:27:05] <petn-randall> !bat
2039 [14:27:05] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
2040 [14:27:22] <petn-randall> fast: Can you provide all of the info above for the affected machine in a single paste? ^^^
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2050 [14:32:38] <jeanjack> so i had to apt-get remove and install nfs-common
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2052 [14:32:49] <bolovanos_> on debian 9 is git-core obsolete - should I use git instead?
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2056 [14:34:10] <petn-randall> bolovanos_: The description of git-core says it all.
2057 [14:34:45] <bolovanos_> petn-randall, right replaced-url
2058 [14:34:47] <bolovanos_> thx
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2066 [14:38:32] <ZSky> News: I added an MX record to a domain I have
2067 [14:38:45] <ZSky> so I should be able to send to roo@example.com now
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2070 [14:39:03] <ZSky> After apt-get install postfix and config, I still have none in lsof -i | grep 25
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2072 [14:39:43] <jeanjack> ZSky: maybe you just configured for secure-only connection ?
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2075 [14:39:55] <ZSky> I did default config
2076 [14:40:01] <ZSky> and then "postfix start"
2077 [14:40:07] <ZSky> but lsof -i | grep 25 still gives none
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2079 [14:40:51] <syslq> On debian disabling NetworkManager deletes the /etc/resolv.conf and file can not be recreated manually, also nameserver directive is ignored in /etc/network/interfaces. Enabling NetworkManager and give it control of interfaces specified in /etc/network/interfaces works, and also resolv.conf is poulated according to directive in interfaces file. Is this normal behaviour or bug?
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2084 [14:41:18] <tobias__> hey guys, which programming language do you recommend to start with, when you want to become a linux sysadmin ?
2085 [14:41:31] <tarzeau_> tobias__: bash, perl, c
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2087 [14:41:59] <tarzeau_> tobias__: depending on the sysadmin part, you might want to learn build systems, ./configure/make/make install; cmake, scons, bazel etc...
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2090 [14:42:28] <tarzeau_> tobias__: and packaging systems, dpkg rpm pip spack snap flatpak cpan...
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2092 [14:43:59] <tobias__> ok thanks, i am going to start with C
2093 [14:45:16] <petn-randall> tobias__: Probably also python now that Perl is slowly fading out.
2094 [14:45:57] <CrtxReavr> I have to script the creation of a user. . . I just want to specify the username & UID, which is working fine, but I'm getting prompted for password, real name, phone number, etc. . . how can I just create the user with useradd or adduser, have no password (installing a public ssh key) and not bother with the other crap?
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2096 [14:46:39] <petn-randall> !tell ZSky -about crosspost
2097 [14:47:18] <petn-randall> !tell ZSky -about crosspost
2098 [14:47:24] <tobias__> petn-randall look at /etc/defaults
2099 [14:47:31] <ZSky> petn-randall: i went there because it's more postfix specific and didn't want to annoy about it here
2100 [14:47:33] <tarzeau_> CrtxReavr: useradd instead of adduser
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2104 [14:48:06] <petn-randall> tobias1: ... and do what there?
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2121 [14:57:22] <m1m1r> Does anyone give me a hint, how to debug dpkg-buildpackage, where I get different errors of dpkg-shlibdeps each time I'm runing it?
2122 [14:57:38] <m1m1r> Sorry, I ment "Can anyone"
2123 [14:57:39] <CrtxReavr> tarzeau_, thanks - this seems to do the trick: useradd -u 1999 -m -s /bin/bash sotfback
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2138 [15:02:14] <petn-randall> m1m1r: You could ask in #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net, where they help out people with packaging efforts.
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2143 [15:03:09] <m1m1r> petn-randall: thx hadn't heard of them
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2167 [15:17:59] <darxmurf> how can I my downloaded firefox binary in alternatives ?
2168 [15:18:16] <darxmurf> I tried: update-alternatives --install /etc/alternatives/x-replaced-url
2169 [15:18:22] <darxmurf> but it's not listed then
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2178 [15:22:39] <tarzeau_> darxmurf: try update-alternatives --install /etc/alternatives/x-replaced-url
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2183 [15:23:43] <Tybor> ~/close
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2186 [15:24:03] <RedSoxFan07> Is there a *nix equivalent to the pathping command on Windows?
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2194 [15:32:35] <petn-randall> RedSoxFan07: I think it would help to explain what pathping does.
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2203 [15:37:03] <tw> mtr is probably close.
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2205 [15:40:24] <RedSoxFan07> tw: Thanks.
2206 [15:41:00] <jhutchins> RedSoxFan07: pathping might also be available.
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2214 [15:51:25] <darxmurf> update-alternatives: error: alternative link /etc/alternatives/x-replaced-url
2215 [15:51:28] <darxmurf> hmm
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2249 [16:05:48] <introom> =apt show iptables= shows it's manually installed.
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2252 [16:06:09] <introom> but grepping /var/log/apt/history.log doesn't show up any iptables entry.
2253 [16:06:11] <introom> how come ?
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2255 [16:06:51] <jelly> ,i iptables
2256 [16:06:52] <judd> Package iptables (net, important) in stretch/amd64: administration tools for packet filtering and NAT. Version: 1.6.0+snapshot20161117-6; Size: 280.8k; Installed: 1528k; Homepage: replaced-url
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2258 [16:07:29] <jelly> introom: if you installed standard task, you got packages with Priority: important, and iptables is one of those
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2261 [16:08:29] <jelly> things debian-installer installed appear as manually installed (though maybe not all of them)
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2273 [16:13:30] <stuffo> test
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2278 [16:16:04] <introom> jelly: looks like the tasksel tool remains on disk even after installation.
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2283 [16:18:25] <introom> and also doing: 'tasksel --task-packages standard' on my computer gives nothing.
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2295 [16:22:42] <introom> ok. it remains because the 'standard' includes tasksel itself. the detailed packages can be shown from aptitude search ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant -F%p
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2304 [16:25:12] <petn-randall> I've been noticing long delays/hangs in the UI of firefox-esr with the last update. It doesn't respond to clicks on the web page, or doesn't respond to tab switches, after ~10 seconds it's back to normal. I noticed that on two separate stretch machines. Does anyone else experience this?
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2309 [16:26:05] <RedSoxFan07> petn-randall: Yeah!
2310 [16:26:23] <RedSoxFan07> petn-randall: On Debian Buster, but not OS X. Buttery smooth on OS X.
2311 [16:27:10] <RedSoxFan07> petn-randall: Debian Buster on my PC is still somehow running Firefox 52.7 or something like that. And yet I was able to upgrade it on my Mac to version 57.
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2314 [16:30:34] <tw> umatrix isn't available for ESR anymore, so I've stopped installing it. On a clean install of ff-esr52.5.0, I don't see what you're seeing... at least not immediately.
2315 [16:30:46] <abd5932> Hello, did anybody hear about Linux.BackDoor.Hook.1 ? Is this authentic ( replaced-url
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2321 [16:32:13] <petn-randall> RedSoxFan07: Well, ESR is simply 52, so if you have that installed, you won't get 57.
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2323 [16:32:40] <tw> abd5932: it's probably a custom version designed for the exploit.
2324 [16:33:01] <petn-randall> abd5932: Are you asking if malware exists on Linux? Sure. Is it shipped with Debian? No.
2325 [16:35:23] <abd5932> thanks!
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2334 [16:39:17] <fast> If any one cares got the mirror issue fixed. Problem was that sha1 was SHA1 was still enabled as digest algo in the key. SHA-1 was dropped in the apt release in stretch. Solution was to disable sha1 in the gpg.conf and resign the repoistory.
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2343 [16:41:39] <petn-randall> fast: Your mirror re-signs the packages?
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2348 [16:43:41] <babilen> aptly (annoyingly) does that still
2349 [16:44:24] <fast> not sure what you mean by re-signs its not a debian mirror its a mirror with our own packages.
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2380 [16:52:43] <petn-randall> fast: Oh, then I wouldn't call it "mirro", but simply "repo(sitory)".
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2412 [17:03:22] <dokma> Swapping annoys the heck out of me. I just did syytemctl stop dphys-swapfile.service and now everything is snappy even after a long wait.
2413 [17:03:56] <dokma> When my swap is on debian prolly swaps out stuff that is not doing anything, like my system menu or application finder.
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2416 [17:04:13] <dokma> But then when I need them something needs to be unswapped to start them.
2417 [17:04:25] <dokma> And it's making stuff annoyingly laggy.
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2419 [17:05:14] <dokma> Is there any middle ground?
2420 [17:05:26] <dokma> My swappines is set to 60.
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2424 [17:05:32] <mspo> set it to 0
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2426 [17:05:42] <mspo> or 1
2427 [17:05:47] <dokma> mspo: is that the same as disabling swap?
2428 [17:05:52] <mspo> dokma: no
2429 [17:06:08] <dokma> no for both or only for 1 ?
2430 [17:06:10] <mspo> dokma: swap's traditional role as overflow memory should still function
2431 [17:06:14] <mspo> with 0 or 1
2432 [17:06:17] <dokma> I see
2433 [17:06:22] <mspo> swappiness is the paging out bit
2434 [17:06:22] <dokma> I'll try 1 first
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2437 [17:06:40] <mspo> oh oops
2438 [17:06:46] <mspo> newer kernels use 1
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2440 [17:06:59] <dokma> didn't know that
2441 [17:07:03] <mspo> 0 *does* disable swap in 3.X+
2442 [17:07:41] <dokma> I'm on 4.9.30
2443 [17:07:48] <mspo> yeah try 1
2444 [17:07:54] <dokma> I'll try 1 and see how it goes
2445 [17:08:31] <dokma> echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
2446 [17:08:37] <dokma> sudo sysctl vm.swappiness=1
2447 [17:08:41] <dokma> I guess that is enough
2448 [17:08:53] <mspo> one of them should have been fine I think :)
2449 [17:09:02] <dokma> just for good measure
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2451 [17:09:34] <dokma> TX
2452 [17:09:40] <dokma> We'll see how it acts now
2453 [17:09:58] <dokma> ALT+F2 and Whisker menu are instant now...
2454 [17:10:13] <dokma> But I tried them a few minutes ago so we'll see when I come back home...
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2458 [17:13:39] <mspo> it takes a few minutes for everything to re-settle
2459 [17:13:49] <mspo> did you re-enable the swapfile service? (whatever that does)
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2479 [17:24:47] <bolovanos> argh
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2491 [17:29:21] <bolovanos> what on earth could change? Last thing I have installed was git, than shutdown -> after restart - I cannot sudo su - "Authentication failure" through putty
2492 [17:29:34] <bolovanos> I can do it machine console
2493 [17:30:06] <bolovanos> I have forbidden root login, but sudo su was working - even over ssh
2494 [17:30:13] <_ppp> anyone familiar with kaltura?
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2499 [17:31:06] <bolovanos> what can I do to reenable sudo su over ssh, what happend that it stopped working?
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2512 [17:36:15] <bolovanos> ok got it
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2514 [17:36:24] <inSync> bolovanos: sudo -s or sudo -i
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2516 [17:37:01] <bolovanos> it is problem with session logged through ssh key
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2519 [17:37:20] <bolovanos> there I cannot use sudo su - is this std behaviour?
2520 [17:37:44] <bolovanos> must qout that I do not use password for that key...
2521 [17:38:28] <inSync> don't know, really, but you could get away with sudo -i or sudo -s
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2526 [17:41:20] <bolovanos> inSync, running it as a target user (-i) does not work either (dno if it is caused by the fact that I have disabled root login...)
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2528 [17:41:36] <bolovanos> inSync, what is -s - I have found -S in help only
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2534 [17:42:56] <bolovanos> ok - sudo -i also works only on session logged through password
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2536 [17:43:50] <inSync> Run the shell specified by the SHELL environment variable if it is set or the shell specified by the invoking user's password database entry. If a command is specified, it is passed to the shell for execution via the shell's -c option. If no command is specified, an interactive shell is executed.
2537 [17:44:12] <inSync> from sudo manual page
2538 [17:44:22] <inSync> sudo -s
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2540 [17:45:11] <bolovanos> right - was looking on --help only, which is a bit sparse for this switch
2541 [17:45:48] <bolovanos> but same song with -s
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2620 [18:22:29] <ertes-w> is there a way to restore one particular file from a package?
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2627 [18:23:45] <ertes-w> from an installed package that is
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2629 [18:24:07] <jelly> ertes-w: no. is it a conffile? Which path, which package?
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2634 [18:26:57] <PlainDave> I've successfully installed Debian 9.2.1, but I can't get connected to my wifi signal. I've entered all of the SSID, BSSID, etc., but to no avail.
2635 [18:27:24] <inSync> PlainDave: you could have a missing firmware
2636 [18:27:54] <jelly> ertes-w: if it's a normal file you can just reinstall the same version over. If it's a conffile there are other options (read: /msg dpkg confnew, /msg dpkg confmiss)
2637 [18:28:13] <jelly> PlainDave: which wireless card are you using
2638 [18:28:17] <jelly> !whats my wireless
2639 [18:28:18] <dpkg> Install the hwinfo package and execute "/usr/sbin/hwinfo --wlan", or replaced-url
2640 [18:28:42] <PlainDave> !whats my wireless
2641 [18:28:42] <dpkg> Install the hwinfo package and execute "/usr/sbin/hwinfo --wlan", or replaced-url
2642 [18:28:56] <ertes-w> jelly: ok, thanks… it's already solved, and sorry for not being responsive (time pressure)
2643 [18:29:20] <jelly> k, no problem
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2645 [18:29:43] <PlainDave> inSync, How do I go about getting firmware? Could it be firmware for my wifi card?
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2650 [18:30:49] <PlainDave> !whats my hardware
2651 [18:30:49] <dpkg> You can use lspci, lsusb, lsscsi, lspcmcia, lshal, hwinfo, dmidecode, and/or lshw, or even dmesg to find out what kind of hardware your machine might have, or you could crack the lid and look inside ... oooh, shiny! If you install lshw, run "lshw -html > myhardware.html" as root and you'll have a nice HTML summation. See also <myram>, <driver locator>.
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2654 [18:31:45] <inSync> PlainDave: firsi things first
2655 [18:31:54] <inSync> what's your wireless?
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2657 [18:32:26] <jelly> PlainDave: do you see your wireless card in "lspci -nn" output? Can you show the exact line contents (especially the [xxxx:xxxx] part)
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2660 [18:32:36] <PlainDave> inSync, I'll try to find out. I'm just using the one that came with my laptop (Dell Inspiron 15).
2661 [18:32:53] <PlainDave> okay
2662 [18:33:07] <jelly> we need that to tell you which firmware it might need
2663 [18:33:44] <jelly> if it's not in "lspci -nn" it might be in "lsusb"
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2666 [18:35:39] <PlainDave> jelly, Is it this ethernet info? Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller [10ec:8136] (rev 07)
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2672 [18:36:37] <jhutchins_wk> ,pciid 10ec:8136
2673 [18:36:38] <judd> [10ec:8136] is 'RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller' from 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with kernel module 'r8169' in stretch. See also replaced-url
2674 [18:37:07] <jhutchins_wk> !r8169
2675 [18:37:08] <dpkg> r8169 is a Linux kernel driver supporting the Realtek RTL8101, RTL8111/8168 and RTL8169 families of gigabit Ethernet chips. See also <rtl8168d>, <rtl8105e>, <rtl8402>, <rtl8411>. Not to be confused with the out-of-tree <r8168> driver.
2676 [18:37:13] <jelly> PlainDave: that looks more like wired ethernet card.
2677 [18:37:24] <PlainDave> okay
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2680 [18:38:19] <jhutchins_wk> PlainDave: One way to figure out what firmware you might need is to dmesg | less and search for "firmware". If it's missing, there should be an error message when it tries to load.
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2682 [18:38:32] <jelly> or just pastebin complete outputs of both commands
2683 [18:38:32] <jelly> !paste
2684 [18:38:33] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: replaced-url
2685 [18:38:49] <PlainDave> jhutchins_wk, Okay thanks.
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2732 [18:58:41] <hever> Hello. I'm trying to access only a specific subnet via a VPN, what already works for me via openvpn. But if I try to open a ssh connection to that network I just can't. If I let all traffic go through the VPN I'm able to connect via SSH. I checked the IP multiple times and it's an IP of the subnet in the VPN so I don't understand why I can't connect via VPN. Any ideas?
2733 [18:58:59] <hever> There are no protocol specific settings or?
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2739 [19:00:41] <peterS> hever: openvpn normally uses a tunnel network device which you can then use in your routing table. whether this ends up happening automatically or not depends on your openvpn setup. But you can create specific routes to specific subnets any time.
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2743 [19:03:00] <peterS> hever: so, it sounds to me like you have a routing issue - if the target subnet is, say, 10.6.3.0/24, and your openvpn endpoint is 10.99.1.2 and the remote end is 10.99.1.1, you might try adding a route like so: sudo ip route add 10.6.3.0/24 via 10.99.1.1
2744 [19:03:38] <peterS> (run just 'ip route' to see your current routing table - see if there exists an entry in there for the target subnet.)
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2753 [19:06:28] <hever> peterS, rounte -n and ip route show both that the correct subnet should be routed via tun0
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2757 [19:08:33] <hever> peterS, ah ok, it seems to be a openvpn configure issue...
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2760 [19:10:07] <hever> peterS, I'm using two lines in my openvpn config "route-nopull" and "route IP.IP.IP.IP" < here I specified a network IP that didn't work... if I specify just one IP it wokrs...
2761 [19:10:16] <peterS> hever: ok sounds like you covered that base. btw you can also use 'ip route get a.b.c.d' to see the _effect_ of the whole routing table, on a specific target IP
2762 [19:10:20] <hever> any tips how to route a whole network thorugh vpn?
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2765 [19:11:58] <peterS> hever: according to 'man openvpn' the syntax is not 'route a.b.c.d/n' as you would expect, but 'route a.b.c.d 255.255.x.y'
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2787 [19:20:37] <hever> peterS, it seems route- commands are somehow not allowed in the context I'm using it...
2788 [19:21:51] <peterS> hever: I don't know much about that ... the context I use openvpn, we push routes directly down from the server and I don't configure any routing on the client side
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2790 [19:22:39] <hever> peterS, thanks anyway! I'm very close now!
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2792 [19:23:02] <peterS> Good luck!
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2796 [19:23:37] <RoyK> hever: the new way is ip route blabla
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2800 [19:24:03] <RoyK> hever: more concise syntax
2801 [19:24:07] <peterS> RoyK: in openvpn configuration? really?
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2805 [19:24:51] <RoyK> peterS: ip route modifies the same routing table, but it's got a better syntax
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2808 [19:25:12] <peterS> RoyK: yes but we're not talking about the command line, we're talking about openvpn configuration files
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2811 [19:26:07] <hever> it seems route-nopull is not for the client config but just server
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2813 [19:26:14] <RoyK> peterS: it's always good to start with the commandline to see if you can fix things temporary that way and then rewrite the config files accordingly when things work, try a reboot and then
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2816 [19:27:10] <peterS> RoyK: if you scroll up a bit you might notice we already went through some 'ip route' command line stuff
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2824 [19:28:59] <hever> the route stuff seems to work but it seems again all my traffic is now routet through the VPN
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2863 [19:40:49] <glassres1stor> all of the files have 4.9.0-0.bpo.2/3/4 on them except one that has 3.16.0-4
2864 [19:40:56] <glassres1stor> what is safe to remove and how?
2865 [19:41:07] <greycat> don't remove files. remove unused kernel images.
2866 [19:41:20] <greycat> start with dpkg -l | grep linux-image
2867 [19:41:36] <peterS> well or just dpkg -l linux-image-\*
2868 [19:41:47] <peterS> and to see what kernel you're actually running now, 'uname -r'
2869 [19:41:49] <greycat> that truncates the results
2870 [19:41:57] <greycat> you need dpkg's output to NOT be a tty
2871 [19:42:17] <peterS> ah yes, I've grown used to wide terminals, I don't think about that so much anymore
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2875 [19:43:28] <a228> how do i disable xorg for running xorg -configure?
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2880 [19:44:46] <towo`> a228, disable the autostart of your display manager
2881 [19:44:47] <glassres1stor> greycat: im running 4.9.0.bpo.3 now and i think when i restart it will be running 4.9.0.bpo.4
2882 [19:45:17] <greycat> if you are never going to boot that 3.16.* kernel you could remove it
2883 [19:45:24] <greycat> or any other images you are never going to use
2884 [19:45:24] <glassres1stor> greycat: thanks
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2886 [19:45:46] <a228> i need to disable it only for one time towo
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2889 [19:46:17] <greycat> a228: Ctrl-Alt-F2, login, systemctl stop gdm3 (or whatever *dm you use)
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2891 [19:46:29] <a228> i'm not sure
2892 [19:46:32] <a228> i'm using cinnamon
2893 [19:46:38] <a228> is it under gdm?
2894 [19:46:42] <greycat> gdm3 and lightdm are good starting guesses
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2897 [19:46:55] <glassres1stor> greycat: so i purged it and got this error rmdir: failed to remove ‘/lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64’: Directory not empty
2898 [19:47:04] <greycat> that's OK
2899 [19:47:19] <greycat> you've got some extra files lingering there but it won't hurt anything
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2903 [19:48:35] <glassres1stor> greycat: but my boot directory is still the same size
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2907 [19:49:19] <glassres1stor> greycat: the olddmks files are still there, ok so actually its 81% and not 98% but still
2908 [19:49:25] <greycat> If your kernel image package was intact, you should have had a /boot/linux-image-3.16.* file before, and that should be removed now. So it should have shrunk.
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2910 [19:49:49] <greycat> err, actually it's /boot/vmlinuz-3.16.* but whatever
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2913 [19:50:10] <greycat> If you had previously removed some of the files in /boot BY HAND then all bets are off.
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2916 [19:50:26] <glassres1stor> greycat: yeah thats gone but why is the old dkms stuff there
2917 [19:50:47] <jelly-home> glassres1stor: what kind of dkms stuff do you have under /boot ??
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2919 [19:50:53] <greycat> because they belong to a different package, or you built them outside of package management
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2921 [19:51:12] <greycat> also what jelly-home said
2922 [19:51:15] <jelly-home> oh, under /lib/modules
2923 [19:51:38] <glassres1stor> jelly-home: greycat replaced-url
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2928 [19:52:26] <jelly-home> never seen anything like that
2929 [19:52:29] <greycat> Is that a file you created yourself, with cp?
2930 [19:52:42] <greycat> Or is this a Debian derivative?
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2934 [19:53:54] <jelly-home> glassres1stor: were you using any non-deb-packaged dkms modules, like hyperv or vbox extensions or nvidia driver from their installer?
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2936 [19:54:58] <jelly-home> stuff packaged by debian usually does not leave initrd copies named like that
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2940 [19:55:38] <jelly-home> glassres1stor: in any case, I think it's pretty safe to wipe any initrd for a removed vmlinuz
2941 [19:55:56] <greycat> agreed
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2955 [20:06:55] <bolovanos> I would like to configure system to power of on power button being pressed
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2957 [20:07:09] <bolovanos> is this good approach ? replaced-url
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2959 [20:07:31] <greycat> err, isn't that already the default?
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2968 [20:08:58] <bolovanos> dnot know
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2970 [20:09:09] <bolovanos> actually i do not have acpi in /etc
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2974 [20:10:28] <bolovanos> ergo I don't have powerbtw.sh on my system
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3000 [20:20:28] <Paul--> hello
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3019 [20:26:04] <wonuku> Paul--: eyyyy
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3047 [20:36:28] <Paul--> hello
3048 [20:37:18] <Paul--> what about rwhois comman ? is it relative to whois ?
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3063 [20:44:59] <jelly-home> Paul--: which package does this rwhois come in?
3064 [20:45:13] <jelly-home> judd: file bin/rwhois
3065 [20:45:18] <judd> Search for bin/rwhois in stretch/amd64: socks4-clients: usr/bin/rwhois
3066 [20:45:32] <jelly-home> no idea what THAT is
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3068 [20:46:10] <jelly-home> ,i socks4-clients
3069 [20:46:11] <judd> Package socks4-clients (net, extra) in stretch/amd64: Socks4 enabled clients as rtelnet and rftp. Version: 4.3.beta2-20+b1; Size: 83.3k; Installed: 287k
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3072 [20:46:43] <jelly-home> Paul--: are you talking about that one or something else?
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3076 [20:48:01] <Paul--> rwhois
3077 [20:48:17] <jelly-home> Paul--: WHICH rwhois? Where did you find it?
3078 [20:48:26] <Paul--> so it's different by whois
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3080 [20:48:36] <greycat> it's a seeecret
3081 [20:48:39] <teraflops> xD
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3083 [20:49:08] * jelly-home casts Magic Missile upon the language barrier
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3085 [20:49:24] <jelly-home> it is not very effective.
3086 [20:49:44] <teraflops> it's like rsh host -l user whois? :D
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3088 [20:50:15] <jelly-home> Paul--: where did you see this command mentioned?
3089 [20:50:29] <Paul--> boh
3090 [20:50:40] <Paul--> apropos
3091 [20:50:40] <jelly-home> boh?
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3094 [20:51:14] <jelly-home> Paul--: what is your native language?
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3098 [20:52:25] <jelly-home> most amusingly, I'm using /usr/bin/whois to guess it based on Paul--'s IP address.
3099 [20:52:39] <jelly-home> !it
3100 [20:52:39] <dpkg> Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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3102 [20:53:01] <teraflops> referral whois?
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3105 [20:53:35] <greycat> replaced-url
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3111 [20:55:49] <Paul--> rwhois is similar to rfinger ? to know users logged-in in a system ?
3112 [20:56:05] <Paul--> fingerd was a old service on old linux versions
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3114 [20:56:24] <Paul--> so whois ad rwhois are completly different
3115 [20:56:48] <jelly-home> JFTR, I've given up, try asking in the italian channel if noone else comments
3116 [20:56:50] <greycat> If you can't read the man page due to a language barrier, I doubt anything I can say will make a difference.
3117 [20:56:52] <Paul--> shit , I thinked to discover a new command
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3121 [20:58:02] <Paul--> greycat, to to hello , thx
3122 [20:58:11] <Paul--> go
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3167 [21:19:24] <Paul--> hello
3168 [21:19:42] <Paul--> so rwhois command and rwhois protocol are different ?
3169 [21:19:53] <greycat> replaced-url
3170 [21:20:02] <Paul--> rwhois isn't the clint for rwhois protocol ?
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3172 [21:20:15] <Paul--> greycat, I know the man pages
3173 [21:20:25] <jelly-home> Paul--: why do you ask?
3174 [21:20:46] <greycat> It's just whois-over-SOCKS4. From 1996.
3175 [21:20:59] <Paul--> replaced-url
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3181 [21:22:48] <Paul--> hello folk
3182 [21:23:14] <Paul--> stop to paste man pages , and answer to my question
3183 [21:23:22] <greycat> *plonk*
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3185 [21:23:47] <bolovanos> I have problem with vim scheme. I have syntax on and colorscheme dracula in .vimrc
3186 [21:23:52] <bolovanos> scheme downloaded from replaced-url
3187 [21:23:53] <Paul--> rwhois command and rwhois protocol are two different things
3188 [21:24:10] <greycat> #vim may be better suited for this
3189 [21:24:14] <bolovanos> saved in ~/.vim/colors/
3190 [21:24:26] <bolovanos> but scheme is not applied (text is white...)
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3210 [21:33:38] <jhutchins> bolovanos: What are the ownership/permissions for that file?
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3212 [21:34:02] <jhutchins> bolovanos: Where is the file located? Did you use the full path?
3213 [21:34:14] <vizzy> i wonder what happened to mosix, does he debian kernel support mosix by default now?
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3223 [21:38:21] <bolovanos> jhutchins, ownerhip is sam as logged user, permissions -rw-r--r--, file is located /home/user/.vim/colors/dracula - no I am using scheme name only - as suggested for example here replaced-url
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3234 [21:43:02] <blerrp> i'm on stretch, but i would like newer packages that even stretch-backports doesn't have. i see a newer pkg i'm interested in on buster.
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3236 [21:43:53] <blerrp> in a production env, do you think it's better to add buster to sources.list and install a couple of packages from that, or am i better off just installing software manually
3237 [21:43:57] <blerrp> from source or whatever
3238 [21:43:58] <greycat> you can try to backport it yourself, if stretch-backports doesn't have it yet
3239 [21:44:04] <greycat> !ssb
3240 [21:44:05] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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3244 [21:46:13] <GNU\colossus> blerrp, don't mix releases. use backports, or create a backported package yourself.
3245 [21:47:11] <blerrp> ok. i guess i'll try backporting it. never done that before
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3248 [21:47:57] <blerrp> !deb-src sid
3249 [21:47:58] <dpkg> You can get apt to download source packages with a <deb-src> line in your <sources.list>. A suitable entry for the sid release is: "deb-src replaced-url
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3251 [21:48:35] <blerrp> !bdo
3252 [21:48:35] <dpkg> backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable (<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read replaced-url
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3259 [21:50:54] <blerrp> interesting
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3262 [21:51:52] <blerrp> ok so what's happening here? it's installing from source based on the sid package?
3263 [21:52:15] <blerrp> so i'm not manually fetching source from a project's website or something right
3264 [21:52:43] <blerrp> !uupdate
3265 [21:52:44] <dpkg> uupdate (in the <devscripts> package) upgrades a source code package from an upstream revision, or e.g. if the newest foo in debian is 1.2, and upstream is at 1.4: apt-get source foo; wget -nd replaced-url
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3268 [21:55:09] <greycat> blerrp: "apt-get source" pulls down the original .tar.gz file from upstream and Debian's patches to that source
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3272 [21:57:22] <blerrp> so why's it bad to mix releases and get a package from buster vs sid? are the ones ported to buster possibly specifically tailored to buster in some way likely to break stuff?
3273 [21:57:36] <blerrp> (assuming you're on stretch)
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3285 [22:01:51] <blerrp> !bdo mirrors
3286 [22:01:52] <dpkg> Mirrors of the <debian-backports> archive are listed at replaced-url
3287 [22:02:12] <blerrp> ^ hmm, that mirrors link is broken
3288 [22:02:24] <blerrp> attn bot maintainer
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3388 [22:51:42] <jhutchins> blerrp: Pre-wheezy isn't really supported any more.
3389 [22:52:46] <greycat> s/really //
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3394 [22:53:57] <jhutchins> blerrp: Certainly wouldn't be any updates.
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3406 [22:59:03] <jhutchins> Still, factoid should probably be updated.
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3422 [23:04:03] <astronavt> jhutchins i bricked the macbook :(
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3425 [23:04:29] <astronavt> never copy raw hex off a blog and put it in grub
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3428 [23:05:23] <petemc> what model of macbook ?
3429 [23:05:33] <sillyslux> oh did you manage...
3430 [23:06:18] <greycat> replaced-url
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3437 [23:08:24] <petemc> heh
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3445 [23:13:34] <tw> I've gotta be honest, I've done that copy-paste thing more than once with .dts[i] files.
3446 [23:13:48] <tw> it's about the same level of crazy.
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3450 [23:15:30] <astronavt> sillyslux i killed her. she ded
3451 [23:15:40] <astronavt> power button doesnt work
3452 [23:15:44] <astronavt> no life
3453 [23:15:55] <sillyslux> it took me 3 years to press the forbidden button on my smartphone (custom rom installation prepared, but only half way)
3454 [23:16:07] <astronavt> petemc 8,2
3455 [23:16:08] <astronavt> 2011
3456 [23:16:18] <astronavt> was trying to disable the radeon gfx card
3457 [23:16:26] <sillyslux> $50 loss
3458 [23:16:29] <astronavt> so i could, ynkow, have a desktop instead of a console
3459 [23:16:30] <astronavt> not really
3460 [23:16:31] <sillyslux> nothing compared to you
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3462 [23:16:48] <astronavt> this thing has a $750 tb hard drive, 4 gigs of ram, and a 2.3 ghz quad core
3463 [23:16:53] <astronavt> it was top end in its day
3464 [23:16:58] <astronavt> gorgeous 15" screen, dvd/cd drive
3465 [23:17:03] <astronavt> would have been a great home media machine
3466 [23:17:14] <astronavt> $
3467 [23:17:15] <astronavt> lol
3468 [23:17:18] <astronavt> gb
3469 [23:17:21] <astronavt> wtf is wrong with me
3470 [23:17:24] <astronavt> 750gb
3471 [23:17:43] <sillyslux> maybe it's still flashable, send it in
3472 [23:19:00] <astronavt> ah true
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3474 [23:19:22] <astronavt> probably like a $200 repair. apple is annoying though they gut the insides
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3476 [23:19:30] <astronavt> ill have to find a third party who wont do that
3477 [23:19:41] <astronavt> would like the stuff on the HD
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3481 [23:20:44] <astronavt> greycat.... i am that guy
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3501 [23:30:12] <reds_> Hello! So I'm trying to install icecat in debian but the file "start-icecat.sh" will not work. It will give me this error is I try to use it (I applied chmod 755 before hand) "run-icecat.sh: Cannot execute ." What do I do?
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3507 [23:32:54] <annadane> reds_, well, firstly, how are you installing it, because icecat is not in debian
3508 [23:33:08] <do0m> chmod +x
3509 [23:33:16] <annadane> and, right, chmod +x
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3513 [23:34:47] <annadane> chmod +x start-icecat.sh
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3517 [23:36:35] <reds_> the first thing I tried was chmod +x, I just tried other things to get it to maybe work. What I did was grab the tar.gz from the fsf website for icecat from another computer, I put it in this one, decompressed it in the opt folder, and made a .desktop file (well reposed the one I made on another computer) for the record both the desktop file and the start-icecat.sh are not working
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3519 [23:37:39] <n4dir> did you try "./icecat.sh " ?
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3527 [23:38:26] <SuperTramp83> reds_: I believe there's an executable named 'icecat' in the folder somewhere, have you tried launching it?
3528 [23:38:26] <do0m> are u getting the error when doing what n4dir said from that /opt/watever folder or when running the .desktop ?
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3530 [23:38:56] <reds_> I got that error from running it in term, using the .desktop gives me another error
3531 [23:39:17] <reds_> This is really weird because my other machine with debian doesn't have this problem
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3533 [23:39:32] <do0m> the error really ends in "execute ." ? nothing else ?
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3535 [23:39:39] <reds_> Yes
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3537 [23:40:04] <reds_> ./icecat gives me this bash: ./icecat: Permission denied
3538 [23:40:05] <do0m> ls -lrath the folder, what are the permissions ?
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3540 [23:42:22] <reds_> replaced-url
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3560 [23:55:36] <reds_> @do0m replaced-url
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