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7 [00:02:26] <its-a-me> hello, I don't know how to manually partition to set up an encrypted system. I can't use guided because I want to keep the exixting EFI and macos partitions
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15 [00:03:51] <Brigo> its-a-me, maybe there is any guide in the web.
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18 [00:04:41] <its-a-me> I could not find one detailed enough but I can try again
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20 [00:05:33] <its-a-me> I tried to make a new partition and "Use as" physical encrypted volume
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22 [00:06:03] <Brigo> its-a-me, i really never used encryption, so not much help here. sorry.
23 [00:06:18] <its-a-me> as for swap, I learned that I can make a swapfile later within the encrypted volume
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31 [00:08:25] <its-a-me> Brigo, thanks anyway :) I'll stick around and maybe report later if I'm successful w another guide
32 [00:08:29] <cq1> Hey folks. I just got my Russian keyboard in the mail, and I confirmed that it works fine with "setxkbmap ru", but I want to be able to switch back and forth with a keyboard shortcut. Is there a standard way of setting this up?
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35 [00:09:45] <v0idpwn> I would set up a bash script, but probably theres a better alternative
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45 [00:14:27] <RoyK> cq1: not sure - I haven't used debian on a desktop for a while, but setting up a shortcut should be easy - most systems I know have that built in
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49 [00:15:33] <RoyK> cq1: I normally switch between norwegian and US keyboard layouts all the time since I like the US kbd layout better for programming, and haven't bothered to design my own yet
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53 [00:16:16] <RoyK> cq1: replaced-url
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64 [00:18:33] <v0idpwn> is someone really into dvorak?
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67 [00:19:14] <Sveta> v0idpwn: sometimes.
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70 [00:20:31] <v0idpwn> dominate vim again >_<
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73 [00:21:31] <cq1> RoyK: I feel pretty dumb. I just looked in the obvious MATE settings GUI thing and it was super easy.
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76 [00:22:08] <cq1> Also, as per xkcd 1806, when I was in college I set up my desktop to switch between QWERTY and Dvorak every 5 seconds, and use xrandr to slightly tint the screen so I could tell which one it was.
77 [00:22:15] <cq1> You could actually learn to anticipate the switches and type fine.
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83 [00:24:48] <v0idpwn> and I thought i was autist
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97 [00:28:52] <Guest46071> hello everyone, i'm new to debian. Can you guys point me to some cool things within the operating system! I got a small programming background, maybe some cool programs to build to learn the operating system !
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100 [00:29:17] <v0idpwn> there's a lot of material in the internet
101 [00:29:34] <v0idpwn> what is your programming background?
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106 [00:31:58] <Guest46071> little bit of python and web apps
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111 [00:32:46] <v0idpwn> try some ricing
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131 [00:48:14] <Rotonen> volatility of web guests be damned, but i suppose dpkg-reconfigure and update-alternatives could be in the generic basket of 'cool things debian'
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140 [00:54:18] <Unit193> That's what you'd list? Granted, it's a means to an end, not really sure what "cool" things are Debian.
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156 [01:04:33] <Tom-_> what's cool about Debian? that's a mighty question :)
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165 [01:09:03] <munyah> How do I change the applications menu in MATE on Debian 9? I've installed alacarte but trying to add a new menu just does nothing at all, and trying to deselect an item doesn't even save changes across restart of alacarte much less effect the applications menu in gnome.
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169 [01:11:32] <jnes> I need to set up my wifi driver to do a netinstall...... This is such a mess! It's a macbook pro with a bcm4331 wifi chip.. dmesg says "failed to load b43/ht0initvals29.fw (-2)"
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173 [01:12:03] <munyah> nm, the answer is to install mozo apparently alacarte doesn't work on MATE Desktop
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177 [01:13:27] <carl_> Hi everyone I can't update anymore my Stretch and I have no idea why, when I do apt-get update on the terminal I get this message: replaced-url
178 [01:14:11] <centrx> carl_: What does your sources.list look like?
179 [01:14:21] <centrx> carl_: I would point the domain at httpredir.debian.org
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184 [01:16:24] <Rotonen> centrx: rather replaced-url
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186 [01:17:21] <centrx> Rotonen: Is that new or something?
187 [01:17:39] <carl_> I was on the main server then changed to european servers but nothing change, the sources lists seems to be empty.. replaced-url
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189 [01:17:54] <Rotonen> popped up about a year ago or so? before stretch was released
190 [01:18:15] <centrx> yeah looks like httpredir.debian.org points there now
191 [01:18:23] <centrx> carl_: cat /etc/apt/sources.list to see the sources.list
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193 [01:18:39] <Rotonen> those are not very well announced, i'm still unsure as to where that'd been announced, but then again i'm not following any committees very closely
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195 [01:19:41] <carl_> etc/apt/sources.list is empty, I have tried witd gedit ... and nano ...
196 [01:19:55] <Rotonen> so far i've always spotted those kinds of developments when replaced-url
197 [01:20:06] <centrx> !sources.list
198 [01:20:06] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
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200 [01:20:21] <centrx> carl_: ^ put those in there
201 [01:20:44] <centrx> carl_: I am surprised that apt-get update gives that message if sources.list is empty though, seems like it wouldn't try a URL at all
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203 [01:21:21] <carl_> can you give me a page where to load them?
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207 [01:22:58] <carl_> is it ok this? replaced-url
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210 [01:24:10] <jnes> w
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214 [01:25:21] <centrx> carl_: Looks good
215 [01:25:38] <centrx> carl_: You can comment out the deb-src lines though, most people don't need those
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223 [01:26:44] <carl_> ok, hey now they appeared again, please check it replaced-url
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226 [01:27:11] <freq> when will firefox 57 come over?
227 [01:27:21] <centrx> carl_: sounds like whatever tool you're using is rewriting the sources.list
228 [01:27:33] <centrx> carl_: That sources.list should work though
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230 [01:28:27] <centrx> freq: Debian uses the ESR releases of Firefox to ensure continued security support
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234 [01:29:29] <centrx> freq: The non-ESR versions are in unstable/sid, which you could potentially use if you use unstable or testing
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236 [01:30:20] <freq> yeah i have sid as an option
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238 [01:30:51] <freq> it's in the sources.list
239 [01:31:15] <centrx> freq: ok, but don't mix stable with unstable, that will effectively upgrade your entire system to unstable
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241 [01:31:28] <centrx> freq: doesn't work to have sid as an "option" generally
242 [01:31:31] <freq> yeah i don't do full upgrades
243 [01:31:48] <freq> just update and upgrade
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246 [01:32:12] <centrx> I mean as more libraries get new versions in sid, you'll find that a new version of libc6, apt, and everything else will be pulled in when you install a single package from sid
247 [01:32:15] <carl_> no upgrade, strange
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249 [01:32:32] <freq> yeah, that's what i wanted to happen :)
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259 [01:35:56] <centrx> freq: ok yeah, I assume sid will get v57 sometime, since it has v56 and had others in the past
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266 [01:39:14] <Rotonen> replaced-url
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268 [01:40:15] <Rotonen> (or i'm pretty certain the people who run that are mozilla, but could be just very eager volunteers too)
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270 [01:41:10] <freq> thank you
271 [01:41:12] <freq> replaced-url
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274 [01:41:41] <Unit193> Rotonen: I'd expect if 'mozilla' ran it, then it'd be debian.mozilla.org or somesuch, not mozilla.debian.net
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276 [01:44:14] <carl_> centrx, I have not resolved the problem but thanks anyway
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281 [01:45:01] <Rotonen> Unit193: mike hommey does work at mozilla, though :P
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284 [01:45:24] <Unit193> He's the Debian maintainer of the package though, sooo..
285 [01:45:36] <centrx> carl_: One option is to change to a different server, maybe the one it's connecting to is missing those files for some reason? (deb.debian.org is a round-robin redirector)
286 [01:45:56] <centrx> carl_: Or maybe there is a problem with the Internet connection or DNS resolution on that machine?
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289 [01:47:03] <Rotonen> Unit193: i meant to imply it is often so that a company which does something open sourced actually donates the time to distros and whatnot for packaging (and thus my suspicion it is actually mozilla running the repo, but as caveated, might as well be just plain wrong)
290 [01:48:48] <carl_> centrx, I have not changed the dns here and I have not problem to surf the web or update the repository, I have tryed with other european servers but nothing
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294 [01:49:28] <amflir> how can I understand trace-cmd output? is there any documentation? for example: replaced-url
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296 [01:49:45] <Rotonen> Unit193: also it's under the wider umbrella of .net, not under the guaranteedly-debian-proper .org
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298 [01:50:07] <Unit193> Rotonen: That I did notice, under the community umbrella.
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301 [01:50:30] <Rotonen> like http.debian.net was a thing before becoming httpredir.debian.org before becoming deb.debian.org
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306 [01:53:10] <Rotonen> also i'm just way out of date on mozilla.debian.net - seems like it just resolves which debian repo contains what these days instead of also being a deb repo - so the discussion i'm having does not even exist anymore to begin with :-)
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313 [01:55:27] <carutsu> I'm trying to install etcd but if I do apt-get update; apt-get install -y etcd
314 [01:55:29] <carutsu> doesn't wokr
315 [01:55:44] <carutsu> neither apt-get install etcd-client nor etcd-server
316 [01:55:47] <carutsu> this is debian 9
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318 [01:56:13] <carutsu> is it in a repository I need to enable? I'm confused by the package list
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321 [01:59:46] <annadane> ,v etcd
322 [01:59:47] <judd> Package: etcd on amd64 -- sid: 3.2.9+dfsg-2
323 [01:59:53] <annadane> carutsu, not in stretch
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325 [02:00:17] <annadane> carutsu, replaced-url
326 [02:00:35] <annadane> alternatively
327 [02:00:36] <annadane> !ssb
328 [02:00:37] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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345 [02:08:04] <carutsu> !deb-src sid
346 [02:08:04] <dpkg> You can get apt to download source packages with a <deb-src> line in your <sources.list>. A suitable entry for the sid release is: "deb-src replaced-url
347 [02:08:22] <carutsu> !bdo
348 [02:08:22] <dpkg> backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable (<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read replaced-url
349 [02:08:49] <abrotman> carutsu: you can msg the bot
350 [02:08:55] <abrotman> dpkg: tell carutsu about msg the bot
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352 [02:09:03] <carutsu> abrotman: sorry, thanks
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359 [02:13:59] <david_> I'm trying to install a program for editing Quake levels called Trenchbroom using the supplied .deb package. When I try to install it says I don't have libpng12-0 installed. I can't figure out a way to install it and libpng seems to be at version 16 now and it is installed.
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363 [02:15:02] <Usual> Hi, is anyone here successfully running bumblebee with the nvidia Optimus on a dell xps 15? I cannot make this work and I’ve hit a point where I’m not sure what to try next
364 [02:15:24] <Rotonen> david_: follow up with an apt-get install -f
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384 [02:31:03] <david_> Roten: That says it uninstalled Trenchbroom. Is that what it was supposed to do?
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393 [02:37:28] <Rotonen> david_: if it could not satisfy the dependencies the package listed, yes
394 [02:38:19] <Rotonen> david_: if it could satisfy the dependencies the package lists, it would install the deps and finish the package configure steps - it probably tells you in the output what happened and for what reason
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407 [02:44:45] <nezZario> are .deb's signed, or are the files generated by dpkg-scanpackages signed?
408 [02:45:08] <nezZario> like every time i add a new third party repo, i usually have to add a GPG key. is that for the files that list the packages or the packages themselves?
409 [02:45:18] <nezZario> i'm looking into basically making a very soft fork of debian
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411 [02:45:38] <Unit193> That'd be for the package lists.
412 [02:45:39] <Ilyas> what's the most painless way to install guest additions to a Debian 9 virtualbox guest ?
413 [02:46:11] <Unit193> Specifically, inline in InRelease, or detached in the old style Release.gpg
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415 [02:46:22] <nezZario> that would just contain some normal debian stable, overlaid with some custom packages, overlaid with some third party repos, in one big apt source I can add to a small fleet of servers and keep everything in sync without having to worry about pinning and all that mess
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417 [02:47:22] <Unit193> From what I understand, 'aptly' can handle package imports.
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419 [02:47:52] <nezZario> never heard of it, i'll check it out. i was going to just write basically a custom proxy
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421 [02:48:46] <optimus\prime> The l0de Radio Hour is LIVE ! Call in now /join #LRH on irc.efnet.org !!! JOIN ! NOW !
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424 [02:48:50] <nezZario> we are running about 30 instances/nodes and some of them are extremely dynamic
425 [02:48:51] <Unit193> replaced-url
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427 [02:49:48] <nezZario> Unit193: what software are you using?
428 [02:50:10] <nezZario> aptly looks pretty darn awesome
429 [02:50:14] <nezZario> even supports S3
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431 [02:50:28] <Unit193> nezZario: I don't need much, so mini-dinstall (gee, does it show? replaced-url
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434 [02:52:07] <nezZario> so using this mini-dinstall you are overlaying several different repos into one local repo?
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436 [02:52:32] <Unit193> No, I build a package, sign, dput and it does the rest.
437 [02:53:18] <Ilyas> also, it it by design that sudo is not installed with Stretch?
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439 [02:53:39] <Ilyas> I installed a VM using the netinst cd
440 [02:54:03] <nezZario> Ilyas: i'm pretty sure it just depends on what "base" you use. using the bare minimum base, that's what you get. a bare minimum base. pretty sure the bare minimum doesn't even include 'less'
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445 [02:54:48] <nezZario> there are a lot of really common packages that the bare minimum install doesn't come with, but that's a good thing / the point of a bare minimum install. you only install what you absolutely need.
446 [02:55:04] <nezZario> i have a long list of very common packages I use on all my installs if you want the list I'll PM it to you
447 [02:55:09] <Ilyas> oh
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450 [02:55:22] <Ilyas> I had no idea I was installing the bare minimum
451 [02:55:35] <Ilyas> I guess I'll stumble upon things as I go then ._.
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453 [02:55:55] <Ilyas> I thought getting a CD as an installer would net me more by default
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455 [02:56:30] <nezZario> pretty sure during the installation you are given the option to install a bunch of 'sets' which are just meta packages that point to a large list of common types of setups (like, graphical kde, graphical gnome, etc)
456 [02:56:45] <nezZario> large list of packages that coincide with common setups*
457 [02:57:54] <Ilyas> yeah, i chose gnome, base stuff, ssh server and one more I think
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461 [02:58:42] <nezZario> if you don't mind i'll PM you some gists that might help you
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492 [03:06:39] <meier88> replaced-url
493 [03:07:16] <annadane> meier88, not an advertising channel. stop it.
494 [03:07:18] <nezZario> anyway, Unit193, I hate to sound daft but are you compiling *all* the packages yourself or do you mean you're just compiling the packages you need from source ?
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496 [03:07:53] <nezZario> just honestly curious because I tried to do this a few months ago and ran into the issue it seemed like nobody else done what i'm talking about / what you're claiming you did
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498 [03:08:23] <meier88> replaced-url
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500 [03:08:58] <nezZario> sorry i don't mean to sound like i don't believe you... haha... but i'm just a bit excited because like i said i've been wanting to do this for months and nearly wrote a 100% custom script a few months ago to accomplish it but ended up having to drop it
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516 [03:12:58] <nezZario> Unit193: one last question for you. are you using aptly at all? or just mini-dinstall? ... mini-dinstall definitely looks like it would be easier to use along with dput. i'm not 100% familiar with either being i've only been reading since you gave me a link 22 minutes ago. but just curious about above + aptly and irregardless if you see this thank you *so* much
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551 [03:29:32] <vktr01330> hi. i'm installing debian and i have a little problem setting up an encrypted swap. the manual isn't very clear to me. someone can quickly give me a hand?
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564 [03:35:01] <RedSoxFan08> Is there a chart for compose key combinations for differently accented letters?
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571 [03:37:21] <Ilyas> shutting down a Debian 9 vm takes forever, waiting for a job. is that by design?
572 [03:37:30] <nezZario> no, what's the job?
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575 [03:37:38] <nezZario> it should be pretty darn quick
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577 [03:37:55] <nezZario> only thing i've ever noticed some time to take to shutdown was squid
578 [03:37:59] <Ilyas> it's not. carp, the message vanished from my screen
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580 [03:38:15] <Ilyas> I'll back to this tomorrow with the message itself
581 [03:38:27] <pingfloyd> check the logs?
582 [03:38:40] <Ilyas> it seems like my fiddling with the vbox guest additions causes the VM to not load properly now
583 [03:38:48] <Ilyas> >_<
584 [03:39:04] <pingfloyd> do you have the right version of additions installed?
585 [03:39:15] <pingfloyd> should match your vbox version
586 [03:39:36] <Ilyas> I tried the the ISO that came with my vbox install(5.2)
587 [03:39:37] <pingfloyd> same thing goes for the extensions pack
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589 [03:39:49] <pingfloyd> iso?
590 [03:39:55] <Ilyas> which I inserted into the guess, which then fails on the autorun
591 [03:40:00] <Ilyas> yes?
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593 [03:40:11] <Ilyas> I can insert a guest additions cd into the guest(debian)
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595 [03:40:34] <Ilyas> is that not how to install the guest addiitions?
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598 [03:41:54] <Ilyas> I'll get back on this tomorrow, thanks thus far
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620 [03:58:15] <Unit193> nezZario: As I said, overlay repo so only the changed/added parts, it's a small repo. I have never used aptly, friend of mine does thus has mentioned several things about it. Biggest downside to mini-dinstall is that it only does flat repositories, not the "newer" style (don't know the name.)
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632 [04:05:24] <LambdaComplex> I just got this message while trying to install nginx-extras replaced-url
633 [04:05:28] <LambdaComplex> How worried should I be?
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668 [04:38:44] <noahmg123> I'm having trouble installing a theme I've installed before
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686 [04:50:25] <MrRick> how do I change the video driver used? Debian does not appear to be using the intel 810 video drivers and the default 648x480 is awfull
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692 [04:52:04] <Megaf> MrRick: do you know whats the correct driver name and if you have it installed?
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698 [04:53:52] <MrRick> Megaf: I want to boot up and load the intel i810 video module. Instead it appears I've defaulted to a Vesta/VGA mode
699 [04:54:27] <MrRick> I don't know if it is a problem with Grub or xwindows
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702 [04:55:11] <MrRick> I have other linux distros that will load up fine: Knoppix liveCD for example
703 [04:55:27] <MrRick> so I know the hardware works
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706 [04:55:43] <Megaf> MrRick: first try installing the package firmware-linux-nonfree
707 [04:56:11] <Megaf> you may need to add the repos contrib non-free in addition main in your sources.list
708 [04:56:46] <MrRick> thanks, I know that the contrib and non-free repositories aren't enabled by default. I'll try that Megaf.
709 [04:56:49] <Megaf> so it will look something like deb replaced-url
710 [04:57:15] <Megaf> and the firmware for your GPU my be inside the firmware-linux-nonfree package
711 [04:57:18] <Megaf> but it's just a guess
712 [04:57:38] <Megaf> It's nice installing it anyway, because it will update your CPUs microcode
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714 [04:58:15] <MrRick> Megaf: I'll give it a shot. thanks
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716 [04:59:51] <MrRick> I'm going to have to sign-out and re-boot. I'm crossing my fingers.
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720 [05:01:33] <chiggins> Any reason why a totally open share can be mounted and written to via a linux client, but trying to write to it via a Windows client gives a permission denied?
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723 [05:06:57] <chiggins> File level permissions on the host. Oops.
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725 [05:07:17] <vktr01330> hi. i'm installing debian and i have a little problem setting up an encrypted swap. the manual isn't very clear to me. someone can quickly give me a hand? mainly not sure in which order to do things
726 [05:07:42] <Megaf> vktr01330: Are you using the entire hard drive?
727 [05:07:52] <un214> I know the dumb way
728 [05:08:00] <Megaf> That is, is Debian going to be alone in that computer?
729 [05:08:22] <vktr01330> Megan, no, i have windoze on it which i like to keep
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732 [05:08:34] <vktr01330> *Megaf
733 [05:08:38] <Megaf> MegaF
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737 [05:09:59] <un214> vktr01330 you wan the dumb way?
738 [05:10:03] <Megaf> vktr01330: so you could on windows first defrag your partitons, then use windows disk utility to resize your partititions creating a blank space. Then you run Debian installer and tell it to create encrypted volumes using the free space in the guided mode
739 [05:10:03] <FukShitLOL> dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs
740 [05:10:20] <Megaf> can anyone ban FukShitLOL please?
741 [05:10:31] <FukShitLOL> can anyone ban Megaf please?
742 [05:10:42] <un214> good luck with that troll
743 [05:10:49] <FukShitLOL> good luck with that troll
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747 [05:11:41] <Megaf> hm /ignore command from IRCcloud is quite good
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749 [05:12:02] <Megaf> it cleans all the messages from the buffer/hisotry
750 [05:12:06] <un214> what does it mean k-lined?
751 [05:12:21] <Megaf> banned from the network by an IRC Operator
752 [05:12:38] <un214> good
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757 [05:14:38] <Megaf> I have a fresh Stretch install here, that I did a minimal netinstall
758 [05:14:45] <Megaf> firstboot went to Buster
759 [05:14:49] <Megaf> and now going to Sid :)
760 [05:14:53] <vktr01330> un214: that's guided, right, not an option, but thanks
761 [05:14:53] <vktr01330> Megaf, resizing the partitions isn't a problem. i have plenty of free space left actually. it's the partitioning at installation i have difficulty with. especially setting up an encrypted swap. not sure in which order to do things. and now i have a logical partition i can't get rid of
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763 [05:15:02] <Megaf> and did the encrypted install
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765 [05:15:33] <noahmg123> A gtk theme I'm trying to install isn't changing all of the graphical elements it's supposed to.
766 [05:15:36] <Megaf> vktr01330: so here it created one encrypted group and two volumes inside of it
767 [05:16:06] <Megaf> vktr01330: you want to encrypt only the swap?
768 [05:16:11] <vktr01330> Megaf: yes
769 [05:16:17] <Megaf> why?
770 [05:16:27] <Megaf> theres no reason to encrypt your swap
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772 [05:16:37] <Megaf> if / is not enrypted too
773 [05:16:50] <un214> maybe there's nothing interseting on the disk because he calls down his programs remotely
774 [05:16:59] <vktr01330> Megaf: i want to make an encrypted folder for my private files later
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776 [05:17:26] <un214> but in fact I'd recommend encrypting / anyway
777 [05:17:32] <vktr01330> Megaf: not to encrypt the whole / or /home and slow down boot
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780 [05:17:43] <Megaf> the thing is. If / is not encrypted, then anyone can get access to everything else anyway
781 [05:18:35] <Megaf> vktr01330: and I have full root encryption here on my AMD E1 dual core at 1,3 Ghz and also on a Core2Duo 2,4 Ghz
782 [05:18:45] <Megaf> no slowdown at all at any moment
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784 [05:19:12] <vktr01330> Megaf: not even at boot?
785 [05:19:32] <Megaf> Not that I'm aware off, maybe one second slower? Or half second?
786 [05:19:59] <Megaf> the only thing is that it will not let the system boot unless I put the volume password
787 [05:19:59] <vktr01330> Megaf: also, how can people access encrypted folders even if they have access to root?
788 [05:20:03] <Megaf> which is good
789 [05:20:17] <Megaf> it is decrypted at boot time
790 [05:20:37] <Megaf> or access is granted at boot time
791 [05:20:51] <un214> ah yes that's right encrypted swap has to have a boot time key
792 [05:21:03] <un214> unless you really do enter key every boot
793 [05:21:08] <Megaf> any important partition really
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795 [05:22:17] <vktr01330> if you have several users you'll also have to give a password twice, or not? if whole disk is encrypted
796 [05:23:56] <Megaf> before the system boot, access is given to everyone, you only type the password once
797 [05:24:59] <Megaf> if you have different users, you can encrypt each users home folder separately and decrypt only when the user logs in, but that is way beyond my current knowledge
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799 [05:27:01] <vktr01330> Megaf: for that if already found and used clear how-to's. but i can't find a clear tutorial on how to encrypt specific partitions. i still think this is a good compromise security-resources-wise
800 [05:27:48] <Megaf> vktr01330: you just create a partition in the installer and as type you select encrypted volume
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802 [05:28:13] <Megaf> just after creating them, you click in the setup encrypted volumes
803 [05:28:13] <vktr01330> Megaf: and then i can use it as swap?
804 [05:28:36] <Megaf> and just after that, you can set one partition as swap, other as home and so on
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806 [05:29:56] <vktr01330> Megaf: i create a new partition ,closest option i have is "physical volume for encryption", i select that and go to "setup encrypted vol"?
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810 [05:30:41] <Megaf> precisely
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820 [05:38:53] <vktr01330> Megaf: it doesn't work like that. but i think i half-accidentally managed it
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822 [05:39:28] <Megaf> I just use the automagic guided mode...
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829 [05:45:40] <vktr01330> Megaf: i could have :p But i want things "custom". Anyway, you have to make a separate swap partition and then choose that as mount point of the encrypted one... i think
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831 [05:45:59] <ImNotHere> Good night :)
832 [05:46:05] <ImNotHere> almost 5 AM
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835 [05:48:04] <vktr01330> ImNotHere: almost noon :p
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862 [05:59:22] <vktr01330> i've installed two DE and have to set gdm or lightdm as default display manager. which is best?
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870 [06:03:14] <BenNZ> vktr01330: depends on your personal preference
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872 [06:03:51] <vktr01330> BenNZ: so, no big problem either way? (running XFCE and gnome3)
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875 [06:05:20] <BenNZ> vktr01330: i prefer lightdm and xfce , you shouldnt have any problems with using lightdm with gnome either , but since i dont use gnome-shell i could be wrong
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879 [06:07:05] <vktr01330> BenNZ: i selected gdm3 which i guess will now run both. maybe i can set up lightdm for XFCE and gdm3 for gnome later. anyway, thnks
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908 [06:25:52] <Sveta> Guest96120: (me___): greetings
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930 [06:36:25] <gladioacuto> good morgning everyboy
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932 [06:36:30] <gladioacuto> everybody
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935 [06:37:58] <gladioacuto> yesterday X server on Stretch crashed and in /var/log/syslog I get this horrible line:' org.a11y.atspi.Registry[677]: XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0" '
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938 [06:39:00] <gladioacuto> second, resuming from hibernation I get from kernel: 'kernel: [133762.891451] [drm] GPU crash dump saved to /sys/class/drm/card0/error ' and sometimes resuming freezes and I have to reboot.
939 [06:39:13] <gladioacuto> What's going on? Any help please?
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1015 [07:15:50] <timothywcrane> just installed debian 9 on my VPS (minimal with ssh) to begin one of the famous "perfect server" tutorials (with email,web, and ispconfig3). Is the best practice to first create an SU account and not use root?
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1021 [07:17:59] <asaba> timothywcrane, to use root only when you need is always one of the best practice :P
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1027 [07:21:29] <timothywcrane> thnx asaba... who died? just a joke on your name from fiqh studies. Hope you understand the joke.
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1066 [07:46:19] <civilIp> "Lord God, give us the strength that we may retain our liberty for our children and our children's children, not only for ourselves but also for the other peoples of Europe, for this is a war which we all wage, this time, not for our German people alone, it is a war for all of Europe and with it, in the long run, for all of MANKIND." | replaced-url
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1070 [07:47:24] <Shmam> So I'm trying to get into my old rpi. Forgot the user and password. I can get the Debian 8 login screen to show up. How can I recover the password? Holding shift furing bootup didn't work
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1072 [07:47:46] <white|raven> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY CdfFn3yZQk7OZvnTY1fM
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1074 [07:48:07] <oerheks> white|raven, time to change password
1075 [07:48:54] <timothywcrane> I thought same ;)
1076 [07:49:02] <strength> civilIp: what in the shit are you on about?
1077 [07:49:06] <Shmam> yeah wut
1078 [07:49:17] <Shmam> uve been compromised agent
1079 [07:49:27] <Shmam> we're pullin u out
1080 [07:49:38] <Shmam> but pls someone help me recover my password
1081 [07:49:44] <Shmam> need halp like rite nao
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1083 [07:50:15] <oerheks> replaced-url
1084 [07:50:30] <Shmam> i cant get in
1085 [07:50:31] <Shmam> at all
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1087 [07:50:44] <Shmam> cant put in any commands. I get stuck in the login screen
1088 [07:51:01] <strength> you will probably have to use the serial kvm
1089 [07:51:24] <Shmam> can I brute force somehow? it does have an ssh server running
1090 [07:51:48] <strength> you might risk being banned by your provider..
1091 [07:52:04] <Shmam> its on a local network
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1094 [07:52:15] <Shmam> I should be fine right?
1095 [07:52:23] <strength> pfft, then if you have physical access...
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1097 [07:52:50] <Shmam> RIP ehite raven
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1099 [07:53:19] <strength> 3 days and still no vpn :[
1100 [07:53:33] <Shmam> ?
1101 [07:53:43] <strength> cant get openvpn running
1102 [07:53:54] <Shmam> oo I had problems with it too
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1105 [07:55:10] <Shmam> brute force boiii get hyped
1106 [07:55:14] <strength> what was your issue?
1107 [07:55:25] <Shmam> forgot debian user/password
1108 [07:55:29] <strength> hahaha
1109 [07:55:38] <Shmam> on an old rpi
1110 [07:55:56] <Shmam> make: cc: command not found
1111 [07:55:59] <Shmam> any ideas?
1112 [07:56:32] <strength> nope, i suck at computers
1113 [07:56:59] <Shmam> ooo shiz, missing the C compiler lol
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1115 [07:57:45] <Shmam> the Ubuntu Windows subsystem is so cool
1116 [07:57:50] <Shmam> I love it so much
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1118 [07:58:01] <timothywcrane> is cname just a subdomain record.
1119 [07:58:25] <strength> timothywcrane: what is the tutorial you're using?
1120 [07:58:48] <timothywcrane> replaced-url
1121 [07:58:58] <strength> cname i thought was for prefixes to your domain... mail.dudes.org for examp[le
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1124 [07:59:25] <timothywcrane> but I have a borked domain setup from a bought domain... 23 Cname records
1125 [07:59:46] <strength> yeah they're basically domain links
1126 [07:59:58] <Shmam> replaced-url
1127 [08:00:13] <Shmam> RIP Gabe :,(
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1129 [08:00:27] <Shmam> now im sad
1130 [08:00:32] <timothywcrane> crap like _domainconnect _domainconnect.gd.domaincontrol.com , obviously GD crud... needed?
1131 [08:00:33] <Shmam> everi tiem I see that one
1132 [08:00:40] * Shmam sigh
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1135 [08:02:08] <strength> i donbt know any of the things!!! where can you learn thjis stuff wiuth out school friends or money?
1136 [08:02:27] <Shmam> just hang out on irc and u learn so much
1137 [08:02:54] <strength> i feel like i never learn anything, even though i at least got apache started and linux installed
1138 [08:02:59] <Shmam> do you have a computer running linux?
1139 [08:03:05] <strength> vps baby
1140 [08:03:10] <strength> my first server
1141 [08:03:17] <strength> and i stare blankly at her
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1143 [08:03:28] <Shmam> vps hosting?
1144 [08:03:31] <strength> although...i did spy some chinese ssh into her earlier
1145 [08:03:36] <strength> but i banned those motherfuckers
1146 [08:03:42] <strength> yuessir
1147 [08:03:55] <Shmam> ah. cool
1148 [08:04:03] <Shmam> make a website
1149 [08:04:06] <strength> lly, i wish it was here so i could fucking smash it
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1151 [08:04:19] <strength> goddamn openvpn bullshit
1152 [08:04:23] <Shmam> LOL these make messages are so fucking funny
1153 [08:04:36] <strength> good, they're going ion my website
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1155 [08:04:53] <strength> as soon as i get ssh going
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1157 [08:05:05] <strength> err openvpn
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1159 [08:06:30] <Shmam> i just cant get over how cool the linux windows subsystem is
1160 [08:06:37] <Shmam> it's gamechanging and nobody is talking about it
1161 [08:06:39] <timothywcrane> apache2 chat has 5 sleeping people in it. Anyone know the official apache help channel. Installing a server, might be more approp.
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1163 [08:06:55] <Shmam> what do you need help with?
1164 [08:07:00] <Shmam> apache isn't that hard
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1166 [08:08:22] <timothywcrane> # Your system has configured 'manage_etc_hosts' as True.
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1168 [08:08:23] <timothywcrane> # As a result, if you wish for changes to this file to persist
1169 [08:08:23] <timothywcrane> # then you will need to either
1170 [08:08:23] <timothywcrane> # a.) make changes to the master file in /etc/cloud/templates/hosts.tmpl# b.) change or remove the value of 'manage_etc_hosts' in# /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg or cloud-config from user-data
1171 [08:08:55] <timothywcrane> which would cause less probs in future with multisite ispconfig setup
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1214 [08:34:29] <Shmam> Hey. I'm missing math.h. How do I get it?
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1216 [08:35:44] <EriC^^> Shmam: sudo apt-get install libc6-dev
1217 [08:36:01] <annadane> you kids and your apt-get
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1219 [08:36:25] <EriC^^> isn't it the opposite
1220 [08:36:27] <Shmam> EriC^^: Already installed
1221 [08:36:44] <EriC^^> Shmam: ls -l /usr/include/math.h doesn't show it?
1222 [08:36:47] <Shmam> 2.23-0ubuntu9 installed
1223 [08:37:06] <Shmam> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18371 Jun 16 15:51 /usr/include/math.h
1224 [08:37:11] <Shmam> that's all i've got
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1226 [08:37:13] <mxh-> annadane: Suggesting apt instead?
1227 [08:37:23] <annadane> nah, just a joke
1228 [08:37:37] <annadane> and yeah, it's the opposite if anything
1229 [08:37:53] <mxh-> I use apt though! It has much more user friendly output
1230 [08:37:56] <Shmam> does that mean that I need to cp that math.h here?
1231 [08:38:00] <mxh-> Better search, too
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1235 [08:39:04] <Shmam> please help meh
1236 [08:39:13] <Shmam> i need to go to slep
1237 [08:39:31] <EriC^^> Shmam: what's the actual problem? what program wants math.h?
1238 [08:39:37] <Shmam> hydra
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1241 [08:40:00] <Shmam> [ERROR] -x option is not available as math.h was not found at compile time
1242 [08:40:06] <Shmam> thats the actual error message
1243 [08:40:13] <Shmam> I installed my cmake
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1245 [08:40:17] <EriC^^> replaced-url
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1247 [08:40:26] <zophyx> yeah, math.h
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1253 [08:40:58] <Shmam> right but my compiler should ship with math.h so idk why I have this prob
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1255 [08:41:05] <Shmam> doesnt make any sense
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1258 [08:41:26] <EriC^^> Shmam: why are you compiling it yourself? isn't there a .deb for it?
1259 [08:41:40] <Shmam> not that I saw
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1261 [08:41:44] <Shmam> just followed the readme
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1263 [08:42:07] <EriC^^> Shmam: try apt-cache search hydra
1264 [08:42:09] <Shmam> how do I make uninstall?
1265 [08:42:14] <Shmam> they have it in apt
1266 [08:42:16] <mxh-> Look for it in the repos, and if not there look for a deb! And read the "dont break debian" page, it's good info :)
1267 [08:42:20] <Shmam> ill try to install it from there
1268 [08:42:28] <EriC^^> Shmam: it seems to be in the repos already
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1272 [08:42:36] <Shmam> it is
1273 [08:42:49] <jeffmr> mxh-, where is the don't break debian page?
1274 [08:42:52] <Shmam> how do I remove the one i compiled and `make install`ed
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1276 [08:43:13] <EriC^^> Shmam: if it never compiled it shouldn't have installed anything anywhere, i think
1277 [08:43:21] <mxh-> jeffmr: replaced-url
1278 [08:43:24] <Shmam> the hydra command works tho
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1280 [08:43:47] <Shmam> $ sudo make uninstall : make: *** No rule to make target 'uninstall'. Stop.
1281 [08:43:49] <EriC^^> Shmam: try sudo make uninstall
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1283 [08:44:19] <EriC^^> Shmam: try "sudo updatedb" then "locate hydra"
1284 [08:44:36] <EriC^^> to get an idea if it's installed and where
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1286 [08:45:32] <Shmam> does sudo updatedb usually take this long?
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1288 [08:45:39] <EriC^^> yeah
1289 [08:45:42] <Shmam> k
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1292 [08:47:12] <mxh-> really? $ time sudo updatedb => real 0m0.117s
1293 [08:47:20] <Shmam> still going
1294 [08:47:20] <mxh-> 500 gb ssd
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1296 [08:47:40] <Shmam> I'm running on a 512GB M.2 Intel 600p ssd sooo
1297 [08:47:47] <Shmam> something might be wrong
1298 [08:47:49] <mxh-> maybe first time it takes a while? don't know tbh
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1300 [08:48:30] <Shmam> why does my last bios time say 2953.1 sec lol
1301 [08:48:56] <EriC^^> last bios time?
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1304 [08:49:03] <Shmam> wondoes
1305 [08:49:15] <Shmam> using the linux ubuntu subsystem
1306 [08:49:18] <Shmam> which is super cool btw
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1308 [08:49:41] <Shmam> taking so long
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1310 [08:49:42] <Shmam> wtf
1311 [08:49:46] <mxh-> i tried that in a VM but it kept bluescreening on me :P
1312 [08:49:56] <Shmam> really
1313 [08:49:58] <EriC^^> Shmam: ctrl+c it
1314 [08:50:03] <Shmam> so far, no problems
1315 [08:50:04] <mxh-> probably the VM's fault
1316 [08:50:21] <Shmam> EriC^^: Just did and started it again
1317 [08:50:37] <EriC^^> k
1318 [08:50:40] <Shmam> its really handy for sshing into my servers. Never liked putty
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1320 [08:50:48] <Shmam> and I feel right at home
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1324 [08:52:37] <Shmam> using 0mb/s of disk in task manager
1325 [08:52:40] <Shmam> think its not working
1326 [08:52:55] <Shmam> lol mist is using more
1327 [08:53:55] <Shmam> nothing from locate hydra but which hydra puts out "/usr/local/bin/hydra"
1328 [08:54:38] <mxh-> Maybe try it as root (do $ sudo su) and try it. Sounds stupid but
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1330 [08:54:58] <mxh-> Or did you get it to work
1331 [08:55:12] <Shmam> I got "which hydra"
1332 [08:55:20] <Shmam> what does locate do differently?
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1335 [08:55:39] <mxh-> finds any file/folder path containing the pattern
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1339 [08:56:00] <Shmam> well we have that one
1340 [08:56:02] <Shmam> weedooo
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1345 [08:57:48] <mxh-> so you can do like $ locate --regex "^.*/math.h$" to find any and all versions of that file
1346 [08:57:55] <jeffmr> doesn't he need mlocate to update the database?
1347 [08:58:06] <mxh-> yeah but he has mlocate if updatedb exists
1348 [08:58:09] <mxh-> i think
1349 [08:58:23] <jeffmr> It wasn't installed by default on my system.
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1353 [08:58:46] <mxh-> Same but he is on the windows/ubuntu subsystem
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1355 [08:58:59] <jeffmr> Oh.
1356 [08:59:10] <Shmam> eek
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1359 [08:59:33] <EriC^^> can't he use the makefile's install to see where it puts all the files?
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1363 [09:00:04] <Shmam> replaced-url
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1366 [09:00:24] <mxh-> Shmam: So you installed hydra from the repos, what's the issue now?
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1368 [09:00:55] <Shmam> [ERROR] Compiled without LIBSSH v0.4.x support, module is not available!
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1372 [09:01:23] <Shmam> I downloaded made and compiled libssh as well as installing it with apt and neither worked
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1377 [09:02:23] <mxh-> welp, just tried installing it from the debian repos and it works just fine
1378 [09:02:32] <mxh-> it's a windowsbuntu thing
1379 [09:03:00] <Shmam> well I guess this piece of junk is only good for ssh lol
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1381 [09:03:12] <Shmam> installed via apt?
1382 [09:03:18] <Shmam> ill just use my ubuntu server
1383 [09:03:24] <mxh-> yeah just sudo apt install hydra
1384 [09:03:32] <mxh-> yeah that's probably the easier option
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1386 [09:03:56] <Shmam> here we go
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1388 [09:04:04] <mxh-> i'm on sid though, worth mentioning
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1390 [09:04:09] <Shmam> works lol
1391 [09:04:13] <mxh-> :3
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1394 [09:04:33] <mxh-> always good to have a little vps if you get stuck on windows
1395 [09:04:37] <mxh-> i do myself :D
1396 [09:04:40] <Shmam> replaced-url
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1402 [09:05:58] <Shmam> pls find it in this century hydra
1403 [09:06:01] <Shmam> i need my password
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1410 [09:06:38] <mxh-> does it really work well?
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1412 [09:07:00] <Shmam> donno, still running
1413 [09:07:04] <Shmam> work faster
1414 [09:07:05] <Shmam> lol
1415 [09:07:24] <mxh-> Shmam: can i PM you?
1416 [09:07:29] <mxh-> Got a question
1417 [09:07:30] <Shmam> yea sure
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1436 [09:12:58] <freiform> Hi, I want to access /dev/rfcomm0 programmatically, unfortunately blueman has a pointer on the device and I cannot access is as regular user (I am a member of the dialout group to which the device belongs). Any ideas short of removeing blueman?
1437 [09:13:07] <AliasSpider> yes
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1442 [09:15:45] <freiform> AliasSpider: was that directed at me?
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1466 [09:27:14] <dunatotatos> Hi! I'm trying to run a binary ~1 million times with different arguments. I used xargs, but most of the CPU time is consumed by the system instead of the user, probably to create and destroy the processes. Any idea to improve that? Like using the same processes pool to run the same binary with different arguments? How?
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1473 [09:29:48] <jim> xargs seems like a good way to do it... but I'm curious, what inspired you to run it with different parameters like that?
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1480 [09:31:35] <dunatotatos> Just bioinformatics stuff. I have ~1700 files of drug structure, and want to create a matrix of similarity on a specific way using an external binary that I cannot modify. This binary takes two arguments: the two files containing the structures of the two drugs we want to compare.
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1482 [09:32:52] <dunatotatos> The xargs way works, but is terribly slow. I run it on 46 cores, and it still takes more than 15 hours, with more than 14 used by sys.
1483 [09:33:00] <jim> so you're looking at running it 1700^2 times?
1484 [09:33:26] <trewas> dunatotatos: there is always some cost when starting a process that shows up as system time, and if the process itself does not take long then system time will dominate
1485 [09:33:37] <dunatotatos> (1700^2)/2 because the matrix is symmetric
1486 [09:34:04] <jim> on its diagonal?
1487 [09:34:33] <dunatotatos> trewas: of course. And it is exactly why I think another option could be possible. Like using the same process to run the same binary with another argument.
1488 [09:34:36] <dunatotatos> jim: yes
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1492 [09:35:23] <trewas> dunatotatos: that would require changing the binary
1493 [09:35:23] <jim> so, it's generally true that thisMatrix[a,b] == thisMatrix[b,a]
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1495 [09:35:35] <dunatotatos> jim: yes
1496 [09:36:13] <dunatotatos> trewas: I was afraid of not finding another solution... I do not have access to the binary source code. It means I have to re-write it all by myself.
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1500 [09:37:02] <jim> I -guess- you could replace the xargs and looping you're doing now with the equiv in C
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1503 [09:37:56] <jim> or you could try in python or something like that
1504 [09:38:20] <dunatotatos> jim: Isn't running an external binary from a C code forking the current process? If yes, I do not see any advantage.
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1506 [09:38:42] <dunatotatos> And I tried in Python with the subprocess module, it was 10 times worse ^^
1507 [09:38:49] <jim> you want to improve which, speed?
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1510 [09:39:28] <dunatotatos> Yes, and especially reduce the sys CPU charge.
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1513 [09:41:10] <jim> hmm... you know the algorithm it's using?
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1515 [09:41:48] <jim> also, how many times is this whole thing to be run?
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1518 [09:41:54] <dunatotatos> Not in details. But the speed of the binary is really not an issue. It is much faster than the task of creating/destroying the processus which ran the binary.
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1520 [09:42:30] <dunatotatos> The whole application will have to be running only a few times. Like max 10, maybe. But on much larger datasets.
1521 [09:43:04] <n4n0`> what are you rewriting anywho?
1522 [09:43:16] <n4n0`> why are we recreating the wheel :)
1523 [09:43:20] <jim> so you'd be looking at a single run of several days
1524 [09:43:26] <preaction> did you run a profiler to see where exactly the performance problem was?
1525 [09:43:57] <dunatotatos> jim: yes, but it is really not optimal, especially when I know where is the problem.
1526 [09:44:30] <dunatotatos> n4n0: In my knowledge, nothing already does what I'm writing.
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1528 [09:44:59] <dunatotatos> preaction: Do you consider `time` to be a profiler?
1529 [09:45:08] <[k00l]shamoanjac> lol no
1530 [09:45:09] <preaction> no, that's not a profiler
1531 [09:45:11] <dunatotatos> JK, the answer is no ^^
1532 [09:45:23] <preaction> alright, glad i'm going to bed then
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1534 [09:45:44] <n4n0`> lol.
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1560 [09:55:40] <AliasSpider> send to áï
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1586 [10:02:22] <AliasSpider> ç„ą
1587 [10:02:26] <dunatotatos> I ran `perf`. I'm discovering this tool, and I'm really not sure about the interpretation of the output. However, it looks like most of the time is consumed by sh [kernel.kallsyms], symbol [k] filemap_map_pages and [k] unmap_page_range
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1603 [10:08:48] <mum0l> Hi guys! I am going to learn icinga and grafana with influxdb (or maybe some more lightwave db). Now, I need to buy a VPS for that, and I am wondering if 1vcore 1GRAM machine will be enought for that? The purpose will be to monitor only 1 remote host + host itself. If anyone did it, could let me know if this kind of VPS will be enought to handle this stuff? Your feedback will be kindly appreciated! ;)
1604 [10:08:51] <AliasSpider> ;)
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1606 [10:09:03] <AliasSpider> ?
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1612 [10:14:13] <jmid> Everything I was told was a LIE...|| CENSORED IN DE, CH, AU, ... || replaced-url
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1642 [10:30:48] <AliasSpider> ë
1643 [10:31:29] <annadane> !zh
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1645 [10:31:35] <annadane> AliasSpider, ^
1646 [10:31:48] <AliasSpider> î«
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1650 [10:33:21] <cq1> Hey folks. I'm currently in the following state: I have drive A with no Full Disk Encryption and a bunch of my files on it, and brand new drive B not even formatted yet. I want to transition to: Brand new Debian on drive A with FDE and my files on it, and drive B with FDE for additional storage. What's the best path from here to there?
1651 [10:34:13] <annadane> cq1, so you don't have encryption on disk a and want to transfer to disk b will encryption? so you want to encrypt drive a first?
1652 [10:34:21] <annadane> s/will/with
1653 [10:34:24] <AliasSpider> ëŽ
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1655 [10:34:30] <AliasSpider> âŸ
1656 [10:34:37] <annadane> AliasSpider, this channel is in english
1657 [10:34:57] <AliasSpider> 篩
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1660 [10:36:28] <cq1> annadane: I guess so. I'm worried that there will be some difference between: (1) setting up FDE on drive B and copying my files over and (2) installing fresh debian and telling it to use FDE on both drives.
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1663 [10:36:39] <cq1> For example, I want both to mount automatically at boot time with a single entered password.
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1665 [10:36:46] <cq1> Like I'm used to with FDE.
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1669 [10:39:05] <AliasSpider> Ç
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1684 [10:46:12] <AliasSpider> á©
1685 [10:46:18] <annadane> !ops AliasSpider
1686 [10:46:18] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: annadane complains about a problem (see above)
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1699 [10:52:24] <petn-randall> cq1: The safest bet is to do a fresh install with FDE, then just migrate your home dir over.
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1702 [10:52:56] <petn-randall> cq1: Other methods will surely work, too, but will take some trial and error to find the working setup.
1703 [10:53:27] <cq1> petn-randall: Okay, sounds good. Will a fresh install give me the option to set up FDE on both drives?
1704 [10:54:11] <petn-randall> cq1: Are both drives the same size?
1705 [10:55:00] <cq1> petn-randall: Nope, one is 250 GB, the other is 2 TB, and I only want to boot off of and put anything on the smaller SSD. I merely want the larger one as ext4 with FDE that I can manually put things on.
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1707 [10:55:18] <cq1> It would just be really nice if all the FDE were automagically handled for me and the same password enabled both.
1708 [10:55:25] <cq1> Like, at start up, only having to be entered once.
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1710 [10:55:44] <petn-randall> cq1: AFAIR your first typed password for LUKS will be used for the others, too.
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1712 [10:56:16] <petn-randall> cq1: If that isn't the case, you can still store the credentials in your /etc/fstab so you don't have to type it.
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1714 [10:56:27] <petn-randall> Sorry, /etc/crypttab.
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1716 [10:56:44] <cq1> petn-randall: Oh, clever. Because that config file is inside the first encrypted setup, so I guess that's safe.
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1718 [10:57:10] <cq1> petn-randall: Perfect. I should probably just do that. Is there some conceivable way I could do this without a third drive on which to stage my files I'd like to copy over?
1719 [10:58:03] <cq1> Like, if I could just setup FDE on my second drive, and then do a fresh install on the first, but after the install configure it to appropriately mount the second drive that would save me having to find a staging area for my files.
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1723 [10:59:48] <petn-randall> cq1: I'd do the following: Back up all your data to the 2nd drive. Do a clean reinstall on the first one with FDE. Then copy your data back. Then your can create a LUKS on the 2nd drive, and add it to /etc/fstab and /etc/crypttab on your system.
1724 [11:00:20] <cq1> petn-randall: Great, sounds like a plan.
1725 [11:00:45] <cq1> Is setting up LUKS like that easy? I've only ever done it either A: on a flat file, or B: just using the automagical defaults in the Debian installer.
1726 [11:00:47] <petn-randall> cq1: Unless you have another backup drive, in that case you could setup both drives at once.
1727 [11:00:56] <cq1> I do not have another backup drive.
1728 [11:01:00] <cq1> I think your plan is excellent.
1729 [11:01:36] <petn-randall> cq1: I see. Yes, setting up LUKS is pretty straight-forward. Don't let the many config options confuse you, just stick with the (sane) defaults.
1730 [11:02:20] <cq1> petn-randall: Okay. I might come back here under brand-new Debian seeking additional help.
1731 [11:02:21] <cq1> Thanks.
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1749 [11:16:08] <petn-randall> cq1: Sure, do that. We're here to help!
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1754 [11:19:00] <cq1> petn-randall: Okay, wait. So, my new added hard drive is 8x bigger than my boot SSD. I'm tempted to do the following: Set up LUKS right now, and copy essentially everything off my nearly-full SSD into it.
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1756 [11:19:09] <cq1> Then, install fresh debian on my SSD, and only copy the things I want back.
1757 [11:19:32] <cq1> But still have everything on the hard drive, in case I randomly am like "oh, crap, how did I configure that random file in /etc"
1758 [11:19:59] <cq1> So, my question is: Is there any reason why I should set up LUKS *after* the fresh install?
1759 [11:20:08] <cq1> Like, will I have to worry about a newer version of LUKS not being compatible, or something?
1760 [11:20:35] <cq1> Because what I'm describing is very appealing to me, so I don't have to think hard about what I copy over. I just make nearly a full disk image into my spacious 2 TB hard drive.
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1764 [11:23:18] <petn-randall> cq1: Yes, you can also do it that way. Just make sure to copy the system over to the large HDD from a boot live system, otherwise you won't get a consistent copy of the system.
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1766 [11:24:08] <cq1> petn-randall: Sounds like a plan.
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1772 [11:30:12] <cq1> petn-randall: Do you have a good source on setting up LUKS? I'm unsure if I should be wiping the drive with /dev/urandom first to obscure access patterns, or if it'll offer to do that for me, or what...
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1775 [11:30:33] <cq1> Also, it looks like cryptsetup takes a ton of crypto primitive options
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1779 [11:31:17] <cq1> And I honestly have no criteria upon which to evaluate "aes-xts-plain64" vs "aes-cbc-essiv" and the like.
1780 [11:31:22] <petn-randall> cq1: Yes, I'd ignore those and go with the defaults.
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1783 [11:33:17] <plasmoduck> How can I install Debian with default Wayland Gnome3?
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1785 [11:34:18] <petn-randall> cq1: The defaults are sane, well tested, and known to work. The others are less tested, there was even a bug in one of the lesser-known ciphers that caused data loss.
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1787 [11:34:55] <petn-randall> !weston
1788 [11:34:55] <dpkg> Weston is the reference implementation of a <wayland> compositor (display server), developed by the Wayland project. Available since Debian 8 "Jessie" although very much a work-in-progress. replaced-url
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1791 [11:35:11] <petn-randall> plasmoduck: ^^^ I don't think it's in a useable state in stretch.
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1794 [11:37:36] <plasmoduck> Okay, reason I ask is because I see this new Purism "PureOS" based on Debian which is using Wayland out-of-the-box and seems to work fine - replaced-url
1795 [11:37:57] <stoned> Wyland is what?
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1797 [11:38:21] <stoned> Oh a new x servedr
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1799 [11:38:29] <plasmoduck> stoned: the replacement for x11/xorg
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1802 [11:38:53] <plasmoduck> Cutting-edge technology: It includes GNOME 3 and the next-generation Wayland display protocol, out of the box. Thanks to this forward-thinking graphics subsystem, you can now enjoy fluid high-framerate videos without tearing, benefit from enhanced security through isolation between graphical software applications, frame-perfect hardware-accelerated animations and UI components rendering, and better power management.
1803 [11:38:57] <stoned> replaced-url
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1805 [11:39:15] <stoned> Oh, that's nice
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1807 [11:40:00] <stoned> Xorg is pretty old.
1808 [11:40:05] <cq1> petn-randall: Sorry for asking so many questions, but I've been Googling and after reading the Arch wiki it's now a bit more confusing. It seems I can choose between "LVM on LUKS", "LUKS on LVM", "plain dm-crypt", and possibly some more options I don't know how to evaluate.
1809 [11:40:49] <cq1> I want literally the most default thing ever. I ran cfdisk and made a single big partition and mkfs.ext4ed the /dev/sdb1 partition. I want the simplest possible thing that blows away /dev/sdb1 and lets me mkfs.ext4 again inside of the encryption.
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1813 [11:41:14] <cq1> (Or, basically, whatever corresponds to the default thing that Debian would set up for me.)
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1817 [11:44:10] <maxzor> plasmoduck, has debian stretch ditched x11/xorg? (and do you really type this fast oO :) )
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1822 [11:46:32] <petn-randall> cq1: "cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/sdb1" will create a LUKS-encrypted disk for you. You might want to overwrite the partition with random data, first, though.
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1824 [11:47:53] <petn-randall> cq1: Simplest way to overwrite it with random data is to luksformat it, then just overwrite the inside partition with zeroes (dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mapper/XXX bs=1M).
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1826 [11:48:22] <petn-randall> cq1: After that you just format is again, and then put your data in it.
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1828 [11:48:53] <cq1> petn-randall: Awesome, thanks.
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1830 [11:49:57] <petn-randall> cq1: Regarding the options your found: "plain dm-crypt" is the same as LUKS, but just doesn't contain a LUKS header. So it's impossible to know if or how the partition is encrypted. In the theoretical scenario where someone apprehends the system you have a somewhat plausible deniability in that you could say it's just random data.
1831 [11:50:05] <plasmoduck> maxzor: Debian stretch has not yet ditched x11/xorg and will not for a long time, even when Wayland is fully implemented, Debian will keep x11/xorg for backwards compatibility as such. As to your other question, I do fancy myself a 'how do you say?' "keyboard cowboy" ;-)
1832 [11:50:24] <petn-randall> cq1: The downside is that you have to memorize all the config options to open it, and if you miss any of them, you'll just get jibberish.
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1835 [11:51:10] <cq1> petn-randall: Sounds pretty marginal for my use case, but thanks for the edification.
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1840 [11:53:46] <petn-randall> cq1: LVM is not directly related with LUKS, but often used together. It's an abstraction that allows you to freely partition the free space in the LUKS container. "LUKS on LVM" is a very weird use case, I don't think it's used very often.
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1846 [11:55:24] <cq1> petn-randall: I did cryptsetup, but I have no new /dev/mapper entry.
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1848 [11:56:53] <cq1> Also, I presume that the way that all this cryptsetup stuff works is that the block device is exposed with a new name, and transparently performs encryption, so I presumably have to mkfs.ext4 this new /dev/mapper/XXX block device, and it'll make a filesystem appropriately inside of the encryption?
1849 [11:57:35] <cq1> petn-randall: Oh, it looks like I need a cryptsetup open afterwards.
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1860 [12:01:48] <cq1> Alright, looks like it should finish filling with random data in about 5 hours.
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1862 [12:03:05] <kai_w> can I use the nvidia-driver over remote X11? glxinfo gives me 'GeForce GTX...' as the renderer when run locally, but 'llvmpipe' when run via 'ssh -X'
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1865 [12:05:25] <Sveta> kai_w: i don't think you can do graphics over remote x11, i tried it over ssh -X and it didn't get through. if it works for you I would be glad to know how.
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1868 [12:07:29] <kai_w> maybe there is a bug with llvmpipe - I could run MATLAB before an update without problems, but now it only works when set to software rendering
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1888 [12:21:26] <kai_w> has anybody run MATLAB remotely with X forwarding recently? opening it and typing exit just hangs, rather than quitting. simple operations (e.g. 1+1) at the prompt work.
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1890 [12:21:44] <kai_w> setting software opengl works around it, but this wasn't necessary a few weeks ago.
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1894 [12:23:31] <freiform> kai_w: are you running testing?
1895 [12:24:01] <petn-randall> cq1: Sorry, was afk for bit. Yes, pretty much what you said.
1896 [12:24:35] <kai_w> freiform: yes
1897 [12:25:07] <kai_w> on both the local and remote
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1902 [12:25:53] <freiform> kai_w: using matlab in hardware randering mode locally with an AMD GPU doesn't work for me in testing. stable runs fine, though. But as I said, i am running it locally.
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1922 [12:35:46] <colo-work> Rembo, for Linux "software" RAID, aka md? there's `mdadm --monitor` for that.
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1927 [12:39:13] <kai_w> freiform: It works locally, so I think this is a different issue.
1928 [12:39:57] <freiform> kai_w: ok, nevermind then.
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1930 [12:41:09] <kai_w> I think the change recently was switching to the vendor-neutral-dispatch mode? so they might both be related to that.
1931 [12:41:55] <JyZyXEL> does anybody know how to get 'sensors' to show +12V and +5V correctly: replaced-url
1932 [12:43:00] <JyZyXEL> i think even the Vcore is wrong, because i7z tool says 1.10-1.18V
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1974 [13:07:53] <CuteMeOwnThroat> JyZyXEL, did you already run sensors-detect and look at /etc/sensors3.conf?
1975 [13:08:09] <JyZyXEL> yeah
1976 [13:08:12] <CuteMeOwnThroat> I think first thing is to make sure that it's the fully correct chipset…
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1994 [13:16:45] <JyZyXEL> yes it detects the correct chip
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2024 [13:34:25] <JyZyXEL> i used "compute in5 @ * 3, @ / 3" for 5V and "compute in1 @ * 6.6, @ / 6.6" for 12V
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2027 [13:35:04] <JyZyXEL> the Vcore doesn't seem to be connected to the actual dynamic Vcores of the CPU
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2035 [13:40:57] <FinalX> where do I see the changelog for a package? specifically tomcat7 on wheezy?
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2037 [13:41:21] <FinalX> and more precisely, between 7.0.28-4+deb7u16 (that broke a bunch for us, and we had to pin 7.0.28-4+deb7u15) and 7.0.28-4+deb7u17 ?
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2039 [13:41:44] <FinalX> I wonder if 7.0.28-4+deb7u17 fixed what we ran in to in 7.0.28-4+deb7u16 :)
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2041 [13:42:15] <FinalX> because replaced-url
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2043 [13:43:13] <FinalX> hm, maybe I'll install it in a docker and grab it from /usr/share/doc/tomcat7/changelog.Debian.gz
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2046 [13:44:04] <n4dir> there is the package changelog (apt-changelog?), but i wouldn't know if you can use it to see the changelog of a given package (but would guess so)
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2049 [13:44:31] <n4dir> ah, wheezy .... urgh
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2052 [13:44:43] <FinalX> yeah.... just as urgh as running jvm's tbh
2053 [13:44:51] <FinalX> but vendor is lax.
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2074 [13:55:32] <FinalX> ha, there we go.
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2076 [13:56:48] <FinalX> n4dir: "Fix regression introduced by patch for CVE-2017-12617 (Closes: #881162)" .. and that's throwing 404's .. exactly what we had.
2077 [13:56:49] <judd> Bug replaced-url
2078 [13:56:55] <FinalX> so, excellent :)
2079 [13:57:20] <jelly-home> at least your tomcats get patched
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2085 [13:58:45] <tw> struts/equifax joke?
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2087 [13:59:38] <FinalX> well, it got patched so good that everything gave a 404, no matter what you asked it for :)
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2106 [14:07:45] <CuteMeOwnThroat> FinalX, sounds pretty secure
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2117 [14:13:16] <archiebald> hello chan ... hope everyone's alright I am a new debian/linux user and I have a bit of a dumb question ... would anyone be so kind as so to lend me 2 minutes of their time to answer it ? thanks a lot, it's regarding the update of a software installed from tarball
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2121 [14:16:37] <RoyK> !ask
2122 [14:16:38] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
2123 [14:17:40] <abrotman> archiebald: just ask
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2127 [14:19:44] <hellyeah> my system is frozen
2128 [14:19:55] <archiebald> muhahaha, awesome ... cool
2129 [14:19:57] <archiebald> ok so here it is... debian stretch, installed firefox 57beta from tarball into /opt/ folder, used it for a while, changed lots of settings, installed add-ons ... now the stable version is out, I want to install it. will I lose everything (bookmarks, settings, addons) if I install it the same way or do I have to back some stuff up, install it, then copy the stuff I backed up back in the new installed folder?
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2132 [14:20:43] <RoyK> archiebald: the settings are stored in your home directory, not under /opt
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2134 [14:20:58] <RoyK> archiebald: so you shouldn't worry
2135 [14:21:16] <RoyK> archiebald: as for addons, I'm not sure
2136 [14:21:29] <RoyK> archiebald: but I guess firefox sync should be able to handle that
2137 [14:21:45] <archiebald> so when I first installed, I copied the tarball into opt and tarballed it, do you mean it installed setting files into the home directory, am I undestanding this correctly?
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2142 [14:22:07] <archiebald> RoyK, yeah about the addons, you make sense
2143 [14:22:34] <RoyK> archiebald: firefox itself makes config files under $HOME/.mozilla/firefox/
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2145 [14:22:48] <tw> Is there a program that takes midi events and generates waveforms (saw, square, ramp) with parametric waveform filters? Looking for realtime with an external controller. Closest I've found is fluidsynth but that doesn't let you modify the generator easily.
2146 [14:22:51] <RoyK> normally users can't write to /opt anyway
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2155 [14:26:41] <archiebald> RoyK, from what I read online, it's the procedure that was advised, copy tar.xz into /opt, tarball the thing, make a link, shabang, Bob's your uncle, it's installed
2156 [14:27:05] <archiebald> RoyK, but thanks for the info mate, appreciated
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2160 [14:27:28] <archiebald> it's a whole new world, still plenty to learn :-)
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2162 [14:28:02] <RoyK> archiebald: we all start at a point - from then on, it's only the thing to learn more :)
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2164 [14:28:27] <RoyK> and beleive me, you never learn it all - the more you learn, the more you understand you don't really know
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2176 [14:32:47] <archiebald> RoyK, indeed, can't agree more, and it's true with most things :-)
2177 [14:33:54] <archiebald> RoyK, would you, to be safe, copy the current firefox folder, as backup?
2178 [14:34:19] <RoyK> won't hurt
2179 [14:34:31] <RoyK> cp -a dir newdir
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2225 [15:02:17] <CuteMeOwnThroat> oh, urgh. copy and paste stops working in xpra after a time… and I guess I just found why: 2017-11-14 15:18:15,164 clipboard toggled to off by the server, reason given:2017-11-14 15:18:15,164 more than 20 clipboard requests per second!
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2231 [15:03:15] <CuteMeOwnThroat> why'd that happen
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2266 [15:17:39] <g0zzy> I've got c 500GB free on a second disk with Win10 on it ( shot: replaced-url
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2269 [15:18:51] <ksk> hola. Is there documentation about mysql/mariadb-server on debian? I remember apt asking me for a root-password on older releases, that seems to be handled different now? Just want to make sure my installation is secured so far.
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2272 [15:19:32] <ksk> apt asked what password to set for mysq-root in older debian releases I mean.
2273 [15:20:01] <petn-randall> g0zzy: You could shrink the partition and filesystem, and create a swap partition after the Windows partition. I wouldn't consider putting a swap file on the windows partition safe.
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2275 [15:21:07] <petn-randall> g0zzy: Are those 500 GB unpartitioned?
2276 [15:21:54] <ksk> g0zzy: I would think windows has a built-in "make this partition smaller, add another partition" tool? OSX has that - I would try using that if you need to rezise.
2277 [15:21:58] <g0zzy> Well it's free space. There are 3 primaries otherwise
2278 [15:22:40] <petn-randall> g0zzy: Then it's pretty easy. Just create a partition with 10 GB in size, format it with mkswap, then add it to your /etc/fstab to be used on every boot.
2279 [15:22:43] <ksk> like, you have a device "D:" and 500G "free" or is it "unallocated" in the windows harddrive manager (whatever that was called again..)
2280 [15:22:47] <g0zzy> petn-randall: So, that's a yes ;)
2281 [15:23:19] <g0zzy> But what about the primary/logical issue?
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2285 [15:25:28] <petn-randall> g0zzy: Is that a MSDOS partition table?
2286 [15:26:05] <g0zzy> Yes i think so. It certainly doesn't look like a GPT
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2288 [15:26:30] <petn-randall> g0zzy: Then just created a extended partition. I'd simply do it with gparted.
2289 [15:26:49] <g0zzy> I'm actually looking at it at the mo with the stretch installer
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2297 [15:29:41] <petn-randall> g0zzy: I guess there's a similar option. Haven't used the installer in a while.
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2303 [15:31:24] <g0zzy> I think i need to change it to logical by deleting it first then recreating with the installer.
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2305 [15:31:47] * g0zzy always get nervous about this kind of thing in case Windows throws a fit later
2306 [15:32:31] <petn-randall> g0zzy: You could install Windows 10 without GPT?? Or is that an upgrade from an earlier version?
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2308 [15:33:29] <g0zzy> I think it is an upgrade, yes. The box was sold as having Win 8 but i find Win 10 on it
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2310 [15:34:12] <RoyK> sounds like a debian problem (;
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2315 [15:35:42] <g0zzy> OK. I've now got a c 500GB logical partition. I can seem to get the installer to create a partition _inside_ that ...
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2347 [15:46:54] <Riku> how do I set a package to never try and update? I installed it from a modified .deb specifically to avoid compatibility issues with dependencies in the repos and it's trying to update from repos and install said dependencies
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2349 [15:47:49] <DaveG_> I've installed the openjdk-8-jre-zero, and want to use 'java -zero', the alternative VM, as default. Where do I set that as a default option? Adding "-zero" to JAVA_TOOL_OPTIONS or _JAVA_OPTIONS doesn't seem to work.
2350 [15:47:54] <DaveG_> "-shark ALIASED_TO -zero" to '/etc/java-8-openjdk/jvm-armhf.cfg' doesn't either.
2351 [15:48:14] <DaveG_> THat's all I've found so far as 'possibles' -- though obviously not correct.
2352 [15:48:30] <CuteMeOwnThroat> Riku, the recommended way is to increase the patchlevel of the version number when you make a custom package… it will get updated, but only if a newer version is in the archives (i.e. on security updates)
2353 [15:49:09] <Riku> it's not from the standard repos so I'm worried about security updates to it
2354 [15:49:15] <jelly-home> DaveG_: which debian release and architecture is that, armhf?
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2356 [15:49:28] <jelly-home> ,v openjdk-8-jre-zero --arch armhf
2357 [15:49:29] <judd> Package: openjdk-8-jre-zero on armhf -- stretch-proposed-updates: 8u151-b12-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 8u151-b12-1~deb9u1; buster: 8u151-b12-1; sid: 8u151-b12-1
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2361 [15:49:52] <CuteMeOwnThroat> it wouldn't try to update from the repos if it wasn't in them…
2362 [15:49:54] <Riku> *not worried
2363 [15:50:06] <Riku> I guess I could just remove the repo it's from
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2367 [15:50:54] <jelly-home> dpkg, tell Riku about hold
2368 [15:51:00] <DaveG_> jelly-home: stretch, armhf
2369 [15:51:23] <DaveG_> manually using 'java -zero' is doing what I want. Just want to know where to set the default.
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2372 [15:52:09] <jonathan_x> Trying to do something in initramfs but not sure script is getting executed.
2373 [15:52:09] <Riku> just commenting out the third party repo works for me
2374 [15:52:24] <Riku> it's the only package in that entire repo anyway
2375 [15:52:25] <jonathan_x> Should local-bottom scripts have rootfs available?
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2377 [15:52:38] <jonathan_x> I thought I gleaned it would be either /root or $rootmnt
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2379 [15:53:05] <CuteMeOwnThroat> it's still good practice to change the version in the last bit… to something showing that it was modified and possibly who modified it
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2382 [15:53:37] <Riku> probably yeah
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2386 [15:53:45] <Riku> I'm the only one using it so I can't be bothered though
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2388 [15:54:18] <CuteMeOwnThroat> well… I'd bet a coffe that your future self a year from now might see that differently ^^
2389 [15:54:28] <CuteMeOwnThroat> or maybe two years from now
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2391 [15:54:42] <Riku> not planning to update the package
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2393 [15:54:52] <Riku> if anything I will be replacing it with an older version
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2457 [16:31:18] <ksk> mariadb innodb file is named "aria_log.00000001" - known bug? :D
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2461 [16:32:07] <petn-randall> ksk: What makes that a bug?
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2464 [16:33:45] <ksk> typo?
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2480 [16:42:11] <petn-randall> ksk: if you mean "aria", no, it's not a typo: replaced-url
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2507 [16:55:04] <g0zzy> Hmm that didn't go well. I opted to install grub on the mbr of the SSD (the other disk in the box is spinning rust with Win10) and made the disk bootable and it fell over on boot. Grub rescue prompt
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2511 [16:56:08] <g0zzy> The installer will rescue a previous installation? I've never done that before
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2516 [16:57:32] <g0zzy> Ooh hang on. I missed the step of installing software - but that's OK isn't it - it will have the base system to boot it?
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2519 [16:58:01] <Megaf> g0zzy, likely, if you installed the bootloader
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2522 [16:58:39] <g0zzy> I did that explicitly, since i have two disks. It seemed to want to install it on the Win disk, which i didn't want
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2528 [17:00:21] <g0zzy> Megaf: will the installer do a rescue then?
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2541 [17:05:41] <Megaf> g0zzy, you choose when you want to install
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2543 [17:05:54] <Megaf> and you can always unplug the disk if you dont want to touch it
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2552 [17:08:34] <ksk> petn-randall: did not know, thanks!
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2559 [17:10:39] <salt_irl> fedora
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2565 [17:14:28] <jhutchins_wk> g0zzy: grub can hand the boot off to the windows bootloader, so installing on the Windows disk isn't a big deal.
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2569 [17:15:08] <jhutchins_wk> g0zzy: One thing that can cause problems is if the install medium being removed causes the disks to be labeled in a different order. (That's why you use UUID)
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2575 [17:17:32] <g0zzy> jhutchins_wk: Actually i DID give the partition a label
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2583 [17:19:45] <g0zzy> jhutchins_wk: But surely installing in the same MBR as Windows is a no-no?
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2588 [17:22:14] <fakefur> hi guys
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2590 [17:22:27] <fakefur> anybody know how to get nautilus to show jpg thumbnails?
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2593 [17:23:46] <fakefur> i get pdf thumbnails
2594 [17:23:51] <fakefur> and video file thumbnails
2595 [17:23:57] <fakefur> but nada for actual images
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2597 [17:24:02] <fakefur> *sigh*
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2600 [17:24:16] <jhutchins_wk> g0zzy: Nope. grub or lilo will boot a windows install, but the Windows bootloader won't boot Linux.
2601 [17:24:33] <jhutchins_wk> g0zzy: This has been true since the very early days.
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2607 [17:25:12] <jhutchins_wk> g0zzy: On modern systems, grub will automatically detect other bootable installations and auto-configure them.
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2609 [17:25:42] <jhutchins_wk> g0zzy: You may need to run update-grub after the initial boot to make this work, I suspect this is an intentional feature.
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2612 [17:26:12] <jhutchins_wk> g0zzy: There is an "os-prober" grub module that scans the system.
2613 [17:26:47] <peterandre> is debian stretch DKMS-enabled by default ?
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2616 [17:27:46] <petn-randall> peterandre: If you question is if dkms can be installed, yes.
2617 [17:28:08] <peterandre> ok, yes i should have asked that instead ;)
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2619 [17:28:30] <ivan> fakefur: are your images over 10MB?
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2621 [17:29:02] <ivan> fakefur: or on a network drive of some sort?
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2623 [17:30:06] <ivan> you can change some things in dconf to get more thumbnails replaced-url
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2625 [17:30:22] <ivan> unfortunately I found that in some big folders nautilus thumbnail generation broke and so I switched to dolphin
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2629 [17:31:34] <peterandre> apt-get install dkms :) got it
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2633 [17:32:19] <fakefur> ivan, no not even close
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2635 [17:32:48] <fakefur> brb
2636 [17:32:52] <ivan> any useful errors when running nautilus from a terminal?
2637 [17:33:15] <tw> Speaking of booting, is there a debian way to deploy kernels as UEFI binaries to the UEFI partition?
2638 [17:33:15] <fakefur> ivan, will check that
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2640 [17:33:20] <fakefur> thanks
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2642 [17:34:27] <g0zzy> petn-randall: tbh i was quite surprised. The installer noticed Windows was on there (despite being on another disk) and gave me the option to install explicitly. I chose the SSD with Debian and its MBR for grub. On booting into the new Debian i get the grub emergency prompt
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2644 [17:36:15] <g0zzy> But i should be able to rescue the new install with the installer should i not?
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2648 [17:39:54] <petn-randall> g0zzy: Probably, but hard to say without knowing what went wrong.
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2654 [17:41:59] <g0zzy> I'll give it a go
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2660 [17:43:56] <jhutchins_wk> !fixgrub
2661 [17:43:56] <dpkg> To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>.
2662 [17:45:52] <Brigo> jhutchins_wk there is a better way nowadays. The rescue mode from the installer can do all that.
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2698 [18:00:03] <jhutchins_wk> Brigo: It's an alternative if you don't happen to have the installer handy.
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2702 [18:00:35] <jhutchins_wk> Besides which, I don't think this is a matter of grub not being on the MBR, it sounds like it can't find the OS>
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2705 [18:00:54] <jhutchins_wk> So now we get into using the grub shell to search for the boot partition.
2706 [18:01:07] <Brigo> funny :)
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2724 [18:05:59] <g0zzy> Yea. The installer let me do it from a shell. Booting now. But even root can't find ifconfig - surely that app's in the base install!?
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2731 [18:07:17] <ambient> Howdy, how to rectify this flaming piece of dog crap that persists through reboots: replaced-url
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2741 [18:08:24] <LtL> g0zzy: ifconfig is deprecated and is 'likely' not included in a fresh stretch install. A jessie to stretch upgrade still has ifconfig..
2742 [18:08:46] <n4dir> wasn't ifconfig replaced with ip ?
2743 [18:08:53] <g0zzy> In favour of .. ?
2744 [18:08:55] <LtL> n4dir: yes sir
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2746 [18:09:35] <n4dir> :-)
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2748 [18:09:58] <tw> I just use busybox ifconfig. It's easier to remember one syntax.
2749 [18:10:19] <tw> at least for the basics. I don't need the fancy tunny stuff most of the time.
2750 [18:10:35] <tw> tunnel
2751 [18:10:43] <jelly-home> ,v drbdlinks
2752 [18:10:44] <judd> Package: drbdlinks on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.19-1; buster: 1.22-1; jessie: 1.22-1; sid: 1.22-1; stretch: 1.22-1
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2756 [18:11:30] <jelly-home> ambient: do you need that package?
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2759 [18:11:55] <ambient> jelly-home, I purged that mofo and I still get the error
2760 [18:12:34] <ambient> I think it is a systemd thang
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2772 [18:16:54] <petn-randall> ambient: You'll get that error irrelevant of systemd.
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2775 [18:17:26] <ambient> It's fun to blame poetering for everything, didn't you know?
2776 [18:17:32] <petn-randall> ambient: Look at the logs why the service fails to start or stop.
2777 [18:17:32] <ambient> : - )
2778 [18:17:49] <petn-randall> ambient: That got boring a few years ago. Go with the time!
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2797 [18:22:51] <jhutchins_wk> Possibly a manually deleted file.
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2801 [18:23:09] <jhutchins_wk> ambient: Are you on testing?
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2835 [18:34:19] <ambient> jhutchins_wk, Yep
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2846 [18:37:29] <nullbyte_> how can i see uuid of swap
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2848 [18:37:35] <nullbyte_> blkid not shows full
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2853 [18:38:54] <petn-randall> nullbyte_: blkid does not what?
2854 [18:39:51] <ambient> Wait, someone PM's me that installing Gentoo will fix the problem. apt-get install gentoo
2855 [18:39:55] <ambient> okay
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2863 [18:41:26] <hiole24> hi, i did not use youtube-dl for a while and now its not working
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2865 [18:41:41] <petn-randall> !doesnt work
2866 [18:41:41] <dpkg> "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>.
2867 [18:41:45] <hiole24> tried to do an upgrade but still the same problem
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2869 [18:42:16] <hiole24> youtube-dl will only work when i want to download each specific video but i cant download the entire channel
2870 [18:42:29] <hiole24> any idea what should i do ?
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2873 [18:43:09] <hiole24> i dont know if its youtube-dl program or youtube website that tries to prevent people from downloading videos
2874 [18:43:14] <Freddie4555> #List vpn
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2877 [18:43:31] <Freddie4555> list vpn
2878 [18:43:41] <petn-randall> Freddie4555: Do you need help?
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2884 [18:46:29] <fakefur> can anyone tell me what components are used in thumbnailing?
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2887 [18:46:39] <fakefur> still trying to get this working
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2894 [18:47:46] <petn-randall> ,v youtube-dl
2895 [18:47:47] <judd> Package: youtube-dl on amd64 -- jessie: 2014.08.05-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 2017.05.18.1-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 2017.05.18.1-1; buster: 2017.11.06-1; sid: 2017.11.06-1; buster-multimedia: 2017.11.06-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 2017.11.06-dmo1
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2898 [18:48:41] <petn-randall> hiole24: You might want to backport the version from buster on your machine. I'm guessing that youtube changed their page layout and now the screen scraping part doesn't work anymore.
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2903 [18:49:18] <hiole24> let me see what i can do
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2905 [18:49:40] <petn-randall> !ssb
2906 [18:49:40] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
2907 [18:49:50] <petn-randall> hiole24: The steps are these here. ^^^
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2911 [18:50:59] <hiole24> petn-randall its working now
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2914 [18:51:17] <hiole24> guy had the same problem replaced-url
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2918 [18:51:45] <hiole24> i would recommend saving this just in case someone has the same problem
2919 [18:52:04] <hiole24> the important thing is now after getting the new version of youtube-dl
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2921 [18:52:45] <hiole24> the command to download the video should be youtube-dl <youtube-url> -v
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2923 [18:53:22] <hiole24> google always tries to prevent people from doing anything
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2926 [18:54:00] <hiole24> i hope one day we will never have to see google or any of their products
2927 [18:54:02] <petn-randall> hiole24: I think it's more like they don't care if some screen scraping tools break, they only care about users with browsers.
2928 [18:54:04] <hiole24> or services
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2930 [18:54:27] <hiole24> petn-randall they only care about profit
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2934 [18:55:15] <hiole24> if i dont go to their super shitty website to watch the video they dont know who that person is and they cant collect their dox and make money from the advertisers
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2936 [18:55:46] <n4dir> dunno. then don't go there?
2937 [18:56:21] <hiole24> yeah i dont, i just download the entire channel and thats it
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2940 [18:56:38] <hiole24> since js is blocked they have no info anyway
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2948 [18:59:14] <g0zzy> More woes :( dbus post install script is now hanging
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2950 [18:59:47] <g0zzy> /bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/dbus.postinst configure
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2955 [19:01:15] <g0zzy> Is Debian now not able to cope with ssh instructions to install packages?
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2959 [19:02:20] <greycat> I install and upgrade things on servers over ssh all the time.
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2966 [19:03:03] <g0zzy> That's a relief. In this case it's task-mate-desktop
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2969 [19:03:49] <petn-randall> "now"? That's always been the case, ever since openssh was added to Debian.
2970 [19:04:00] <jhutchins_wk> hiole24: So if you download a whole channel, how do you download later updates without downloading everything?
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2972 [19:04:37] <jhutchins_wk> g0zzy: You're installing a desktop over ssh?
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2975 [19:04:46] <g0zzy> Yes. top shows that effectively dbus.postinst is dead in the water
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2977 [19:05:24] <g0zzy> jhutchins_wk: Is that too big an ask?
2978 [19:05:25] <jhutchins_wk> g0zzy: reinstall?
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2981 [19:05:50] <jhutchins_wk> g0zzy: No, it's just counterintuitive. If your interface is ssh, why would you install a desktop.
2982 [19:05:53] <greycat> g0zzy: it just doesn't make *sense*
2983 [19:06:15] <greycat> I'm curious what petn-randall meant though.
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2991 [19:07:49] <n4dir> i understood it as a : you could always do that. Might be, i am overseeing something, but to me it was pretty clear
2992 [19:07:52] <g0zzy> jhutchins_wk: It's more convenient than physical access
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2994 [19:08:30] <petn-randall> Yes, you could always install packages via SSH, ever since apt and SSH existed in Debian.
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2998 [19:09:57] * g0zzy thinks it's looking so borky he's going to go over and nuke task-mate-desktop and start again
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3000 [19:10:31] <teraflops> you can run debian installer through ssh
3001 [19:10:34] <jhutchins_wk> g0zzy: You can kill a task from the CLI,
3002 [19:11:11] <jhutchins_wk> g0zzy: We're wondering why you would want a desktop on a remote system.
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3007 [19:12:11] <teraflops> why not?
3008 [19:12:56] <greycat> because you'll never be able to use it?
3009 [19:13:18] <n4dir> he probably doesn't always want to use it remote, via ssh. He only does the actual installation of mate via ssh.
3010 [19:13:18] <teraflops> are you guys being serious?
3011 [19:13:37] <n4dir> could also be useful to use vns or such in the future, i guess.
3012 [19:13:51] <teraflops> and it does not make any difference regarding package installation
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3015 [19:14:47] <n4dir> vnc, urgh
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3017 [19:15:08] <teraflops> so my father who lives 5k Km from here and run debian wants to run mate, do I have to travek there for installing it? :P
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3019 [19:15:33] <JustASlacker> just 5km? just run over
3020 [19:15:33] <teraflops> excuse my typos
3021 [19:15:42] <teraflops> no 5k km
3022 [19:15:42] <JustASlacker> its healthy
3023 [19:15:44] <JustASlacker> oh+
3024 [19:15:54] <n4dir> tell your father he shall not use mate, as a first step towards enlightenment.
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3026 [19:16:03] <JustASlacker> well, could be healthy. take some water and food with you
3027 [19:16:10] <teraflops> actually he runs gnome :D
3028 [19:16:22] <n4dir> it gets worse ... muah-ha-ha.
3029 [19:16:36] <teraflops> hehe
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3031 [19:17:33] <frazr> colleague thinks i should use kubuntu
3032 [19:17:33] <frazr> :D
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3036 [19:17:47] <greycat> You'd still need to be physically at the machine to make sure the fucking display manager actually WORKS when you reboot it, because as we all know from hanging out here, a HUGE fraction of the time, after installing something X-ish on stretch, the DM hangs or locks up or bursts into flame.
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3039 [19:19:49] <jhutchins_wk> teraflops: Yeah, I was wondering if he was installing remotely for local use, or if he was one of those Windows admins who thinks you need a full desktop gui to admin the system by vnc.
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3041 [19:20:56] <n4dir> didn't realize it yet, but found another good reason not to use a DM.
3042 [19:21:07] <teraflops> jhutchins_wk: yeah I get it, and greycat had a point too
3043 [19:21:20] <teraflops> startx is fine if you ask me
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3047 [19:22:33] <n4dir> someone said something bout logind (?) or such not working properly if you don't use a DM, but i have seen no problems yet. that is: there might be reasons for a DM
3048 [19:22:53] <greycat> I think you have it backwards. GNOME requires systemd-logind.
3049 [19:23:02] <greycat> Or something like that.
3050 [19:23:50] <g0zzy> Yes. I just purged the whole of task-mate-desktop and now reinstalling. Physically
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3057 [19:24:57] * g0zzy is NOT one of those Windows admins. Or any kind (apart from unwilling) Windows admin ;)
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3066 [19:27:03] <n4dir> greycat: i thought of it being gnome, but didn't want to look as if i wanted to bash gnome (and mainly not, as i was not sure). Anyway: thanks, probably like that
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3100 [19:43:44] <jhutchins> ,v firefox
3101 [19:43:45] <judd> Package: firefox on amd64 -- jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.0-1~bpo80+1; sid: 57.0-1
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3108 [19:46:08] <jhutchins> Strnge, I have 52.4.
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3110 [19:46:36] <greycat> firefox-esr != firefox-release != firefox
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3113 [19:47:14] <Marbug> Hi, I just created a debian container in lxc with lxc_container. But when I'm running container_command there doesn't seem to be any networking. Right afterwards there is but I need it on the time of container_command. Anyways, when I tried to debug there doesn't seem to be less available on the system, needed for journalctl -xe as I found out that starting networking faild. Although without less on the system I can't see what the error might be, is there
3114 [19:47:20] <Marbug> any way to see anything on some other way?
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3141 [20:01:43] * LtL runs firefox 57.0 (64-bit) and it's sweet.
3142 [20:02:06] <greycat> I saw a television commercial for Firefox last night. It was unexpected.
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3145 [20:02:24] <Halcy0n> That's odd
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3147 [20:02:46] <greycat> They're really campaigning behind this new version.
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3149 [20:02:55] <LtL> firefox is touting this new 'Quantum' verion
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3152 [20:04:56] <LtL> *version
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3159 [20:06:01] <n4dir> as long it crashes every now and then i am happy with any version of firefox
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3183 [20:14:23] <LtL> n4dir: i never use the 'cra$h' word, so it never happens, now i've probably hexed myself
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3193 [20:16:25] <EvanCarroll> replaced-url
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3203 [20:18:46] <_rubik> this may be off topic, but what are peoples thoughts on firefox 57?
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3208 [20:21:07] <hanckmannp_> Hi. I just did a minimal server install of debian 9.2 and I want to run some python3 applications from a virtualenv. However, pip keeps throwing: error: invalid command 'bdist_wheel
3209 [20:21:11] <hanckmannp_> Any ideas?
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3216 [20:25:24] <annadane> _rubik, i like it, it's really nice. that said, there's an off topic channel: #debian-offtopic
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3252 [20:38:06] <Klaus_Dieter> plugins have been the strength of firefox. Firefox57 now breaks compatibility with blugins like vimperator. this ais a showstopper for me... :/
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3256 [20:39:06] <MicroMars> Klaus_Dieter, i think things need to change
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3258 [20:39:23] <MicroMars> but i agree that it's a bit sad that some extentions don't work anymore
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3261 [20:40:00] <MicroMars> but i think if Mozilla gave no deadline, even short it was, no-one will change
3262 [20:40:11] <MicroMars> (sorry for ugly english)
3263 [20:40:47] <tremolo> Pocket has reappeared. This displeases me.
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3268 [20:43:45] <Irishluck83> is it possible for the wifi cards to be there for the intial install
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3277 [20:47:16] <somiaj> !firmware images
3278 [20:47:16] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See replaced-url
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3280 [20:47:39] <somiaj> Irishluck83: there are 'unoffical' images that contain the firmware needed for most wifi cards.
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3295 [20:54:16] <Irishluck83> oh do you know the site
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3297 [20:54:43] <greycat> !firmware installer
3298 [20:54:43] <dpkg> Debian-Installer is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See replaced-url
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3302 [20:55:19] <somiaj> Irishluck83: the bots factoid gave the url of said image
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3306 [20:58:14] <Irishluck83> ok thanks
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3507 [22:19:00] <blawiz> is a very minimal xorg, what copies the selected text to primary?
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3515 [22:21:07] <greycat> highlighting with the mouse (button 1)
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3517 [22:21:53] <greycat> but it depends on the client program; not all clients allow you to copy all text
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3523 [22:25:54] <blawiz> i dont have too many applications installed, but it seems to work in urxvt, to copy from, but not from qutebrowser
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3532 [22:29:27] <blawiz> hmm text selection seems to copy to "clipboard" too :S
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3535 [22:30:57] <greycat> Unix has a notion of separating "primary" and "secondary" buffers but applications do not use them consistently. Most traditional apps like terminal emulators just act like there's only one clipboard and everyone's happy... then web browsers that also get used by Windows people come along and ruin everything.
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3554 [22:36:51] <annadane> buffers such as copy + paste being one buffer and highlight-to-copy being another?
3555 [22:37:00] <annadane> or rather, right click copy being the former
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3557 [22:37:16] <annadane> hold that thought, need to reboot
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3574 [22:40:39] <annadane> okay, back, if you wanted to answer
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3577 [22:41:55] <altab> Hello, I have a problem with my /etc/crontab file, I accidentally deleted it so I add a new crontab file with the command crontab -u root /etc/crontab. When I check with crontab -l, the content of this file is correctly listed but after one minute (approx.), the crontab -l output says "no crontab for root" - replaced-url
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3579 [22:41:59] <annadane> or just ignore me, i don't really care :P
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3590 [22:46:25] <greycat> altab: /etc/crontab and "the crontab that you get with crontab -e/-l" are two completely separate files, with different formats.
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3592 [22:47:17] <altab> greycat different or not, tasks listed in the file are not executed
3593 [22:47:36] <greycat> if you used the crontab -e format for /etc/crontab then that would explain it
3594 [22:47:51] <greycat> /etc/crontab has an extra field (username)
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3596 [22:48:10] <altab> greycat that's not the problem, the problem is : why does the system "reset" the crontab files
3597 [22:48:27] <greycat> I have absolutely no clue what you did or why you did it.
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3599 [22:48:48] <greycat> restore your /etc/crontab from a backup, or extract it out of the cron package and just cp it in place
3600 [22:49:06] <greycat> Do NOT attempt to use the crontab -e command to write to it.
3601 [22:49:11] <altab> greycat I edit a file with nano (/etc/crontab or other way), I add it with crontab -u root $path_to_the_file, then during 1 min, I can list the cron file correctly (crontab -l), I can edit the crontab correctly (crontab -e) but after 1 min, cron says there is no file
3602 [22:49:43] <greycat> I have absolutely NO IDEA what these crazy-ass crontab -u commands do.
3603 [22:50:54] <Ilyas> I know this may be a loaded/contentious question but: whats the best desktop environment for a Debian n00b like myself, coming from a Windows ?
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3606 [22:51:03] <greycat> If you create a personal crontab for root by running "crontab -e" as root, it creates the file /var/spool/cron/crontabs/root
3607 [22:51:08] <Ilyas> is GNOME still ok? or something else these days?
3608 [22:51:24] <greycat> This is NOT the same as /etc/crontab and it does NOT have the same format as /etc/crontab.
3609 [22:52:20] <greycat> The standard Debian /etc/crontab just has four run-parts commands for cron.hourly, cron.daily, cron.weekly and cron.month.y
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3611 [22:52:30] <altab> greycat the problem is the same : I add some tasks to the crontab with crontab -e, then I edit it again few minutes after and the cron is empty
3612 [22:52:43] <greycat> Undo whatever you did.
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3615 [22:53:17] <altab> I rm'd the /etc/crontab file
3616 [22:53:27] <greycat> /etc/crontab should be a plain file. /var/spool/cron/crontabs/root should be a plain file, or nonexistent.
3617 [22:55:08] <altab> few minutes after adding some tasks with crontab -e : crontab -e
3618 [22:55:08] <altab> no crontab for root - using an empty one
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3620 [22:55:28] * greycat checks the man pages. "crontab -u root /etc/crontab" says "copy the input file /etc/crontab to the personal crontab of user root"
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3622 [22:55:48] <greycat> so when you ran that, god only knows what happened
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3624 [22:56:33] <altab> greycat the /var/spool/../root is OK during 1 min (cat, content is OK), then, after, there is no more /var/spool/../root file
3625 [22:57:15] <greycat> any useful messages in systemctl status cron? or /var/log/*? or journalctl whatever it is?
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3629 [23:02:02] <altab> greycat nope
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3633 [23:02:55] <greycat> What *I* would do is: make a backup of whatever you've got; apt-get --reinstall --download-only install cron; this should leave the cron*.deb file on your system ready to go. Then dpkg --purge --force-depends cron; then apt-get install cron
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3635 [23:03:39] <greycat> That should *HOPEFULLY* put you back in the initial state, with a standard /etc/crontab file and no personal crontab files.
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3638 [23:04:22] <altab> ok I'll try this, thank you greycat
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3640 [23:05:04] <greycat> googling for "debian crontab disappearing" came up with some forum post from someone using Google Drive, so you might also ask yourself "Am I on AWS or some other cloud thing, and is that interfering somehow"
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3645 [23:07:13] <kidney_thief> hi, what is the easiest way to add an extra file into initrd to be available during early boot? the initramfs-tools way :)
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3658 [23:13:33] <kidney_thief> ah, yes write a hook. gawd, arch does this so much simpler
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3707 [23:39:01] <Ilyas> hi, I just installed a fresh debian 9 box, but my user doesnt have sudo rights
3708 [23:39:06] <Ilyas> how can this be?
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3710 [23:39:20] <apollo13> check which groups it is a member of
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3712 [23:39:43] <psychoticwarrior> look at /etc/sudoers
3713 [23:39:46] <psychoticwarrior> and change it
3714 [23:39:52] <apollo13> if he is not in the sudo group you will not be able to sudo
3715 [23:39:58] <apollo13> assuming you didn't touch sudoers
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3717 [23:40:15] <Ilyas> I have not trouched it yet. I just installed and booted into my vm
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3719 [23:40:32] <Ilyas> the installed asked for a root password, which I have, and created a user + password, which I log in with
3720 [23:40:39] <psychoticwarrior> user ALL=(ALL:ALL ALL
3721 [23:40:41] <apollo13> well how did you create your user
3722 [23:40:43] <psychoticwarrior> change user to your user
3723 [23:40:48] <Ilyas> via the installer
3724 [23:40:49] <apollo13> no don't do that
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3727 [23:40:57] <apollo13> add the user to the sudo group
3728 [23:41:11] <Ilyas> I assumedd my user account would get sudo rights, because we're not supposed to log in as root etc
3729 [23:41:13] <apollo13> mhm not sure under which conditions the installer makes a user sudoable
3730 [23:41:41] <psychoticwarrior> add the user to /etc/sudoers
3731 [23:41:49] <apollo13> sigh, no
3732 [23:41:50] <Ilyas> how?
3733 [23:41:54] <Ilyas> I dont have sudo rights
3734 [23:41:59] <Sveta> doesn't it make the first user sudoable
3735 [23:42:04] <Ilyas> it does not
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3739 [23:42:17] <Sveta> doesn't it ask you to specify the root password then
3740 [23:42:25] <apollo13> Ilyas: log in as root
3741 [23:42:29] <Sveta> yes
3742 [23:42:32] <Ilyas> oh
3743 [23:42:38] <apollo13> but if you specified a root password during the installation I do not think that the user will have sudo
3744 [23:42:46] <psychoticwarrior> if your having problems. edit the kernel line linux. change it to init=/bin/bash
3745 [23:42:48] <Sveta> you must log in as root to grant users sudo
3746 [23:42:56] <psychoticwarrior> at the very end
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3749 [23:42:58] <psychoticwarrior> my bad
3750 [23:42:59] <Sveta> no need to edit the kernel yet
3751 [23:43:02] <Ilyas> I specified a root password, my user did not get sudo rights.
3752 [23:43:04] <psychoticwarrior> ok
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3754 [23:43:25] <Ilyas> but I get it, I'll log in as root and try it then. is there as specific command or do I need to edit some file?
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3756 [23:43:29] <Sveta> Ilyas: you have access to a user named 'root', whose password you know; this 'root' account has full access to everything
3757 [23:43:30] <apollo13> Ilyas: once you are root something along the lines of usermod -a -G sudo your_username should do it
3758 [23:43:40] <Sveta> yes, `usermod -a -G sudo your_username` would do
3759 [23:43:46] <Ilyas> tnx, lemme try
3760 [23:43:54] <Sveta> you can use `id your_username` to check that it worked
3761 [23:43:58] <Sveta> when logged in as root
3762 [23:44:06] <Sveta> it will show your user is in the sudo group
3763 [23:45:10] <Ilyas> Sveta: that seems to have done the trick, thanks
3764 [23:45:22] <Sveta> thank to apollo13, I just repeated what he said
3765 [23:45:28] <psychoticwarrior> sweet good job
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3767 [23:45:29] <Sveta> enjoy though :)
3768 [23:45:33] <Ilyas> why is this needed btw? isn't it more logical to give the first user sudo rights? seem like that would save al ot of hassle
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3770 [23:45:49] <Sveta> it is expected that your first user is not an admin, just a normal user
3771 [23:45:55] <Sveta> and when it needs to admin things it logs in as root
3772 [23:45:55] <Ilyas> oh
3773 [23:45:57] <psychoticwarrior> yes by changing the /etc/sudoers would work
3774 [23:46:07] <apollo13> psychoticwarrior: again, no
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3776 [23:46:08] <Ilyas> intersting
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3778 [23:46:13] <Sveta> psychoticwarrior: I think `visudo` is preferred to editing the file directly
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3780 [23:46:25] <psychoticwarrior> yes but that doesnt mess up the system
3781 [23:46:29] <psychoticwarrior> it still works
3782 [23:46:29] <apollo13> generally for a normal system there is no need to edit sudoers
3783 [23:46:37] <psychoticwarrior> ok thats fine
3784 [23:46:38] <Sveta> psychoticwarrior: and it is a different path -- you can add group 'users' or group 'sveta' to the sudoers file
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3786 [23:46:45] <Sveta> psychoticwarrior: but as it already has group 'sudo' on it, adding the user to the sudo group is a bit easier
3787 [23:46:55] <apollo13> Ilyas: the installer has two options or so, you might have selected the wrong one
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3792 [23:47:11] <Ilyas> apollo13: oh. at what step?
3793 [23:47:31] <apollo13> Ilyas: no idea, it has been ages since I've looked at the steps
3794 [23:47:45] <Sveta> psychoticwarrior: (then if one of the users on the system has abused sudo access or said they no longer need it, removing them from the sudo group is easier than editing the sudoers file, it's kinda less overhead this way)
3795 [23:48:00] <psychoticwarrior> true
3796 [23:48:07] <psychoticwarrior> but it doesnt take much to edit the sudoers file
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3798 [23:48:25] <psychoticwarrior> its very simple and can be added without issues as long as you explain it the right way
3799 [23:48:31] <Sveta> psychoticwarrior: it's confusing for people, easier to typo, and gets messy when there's many users, which is why I think it is not preferred by everyone
3800 [23:48:38] <psychoticwarrior> true
3801 [23:48:39] <psychoticwarrior> i agree
3802 [23:48:41] <Sveta> :)
3803 [23:48:45] <psychoticwarrior> may be too complicated for some
3804 [23:48:56] <apollo13> Ilyas: I am actually surprised that it created an user at all, the default choices are either root with password or an extra user with sudo privs, dunno where you went a-wall
3805 [23:49:08] <psychoticwarrior> i had an interview with a tech company today. hope i get the job?
3806 [23:49:11] <psychoticwarrior> !!
3807 [23:49:11] <dpkg> I'm not your csh prompt!
3808 [23:49:51] <Sveta> psychoticwarrior: on a related note, if someone made a change, you don't know what change they made -- if you have a few sudo users on your system, I give sudo access to you, and other admins of the box won't know what I did apart from knowing that I edited the file. Then if whoever I gave access to does something harmful, it will be unclear who has responsibility.
3809 [23:50:08] <Sveta> psychoticwarrior: if I did it using 'usermod', my command would be logged, and everyone would know what I did.
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3812 [23:50:44] <Sveta> psychoticwarrior: good luck with that company, you sound pretty well informed and you talk about the stuff well :)
3813 [23:50:44] <apollo13> Sveta: unless they edited /etc/group manually, also logs can be deleted especially if they already have sudo rights ;)
3814 [23:50:53] <Ilyas> apollo13: I gave the root user a password, and the nextstep was to create a user user
3815 [23:51:05] <Ilyas> I gave both a password
3816 [23:51:08] <apollo13> weird, but as I said I am talking from memory
3817 [23:51:11] <Sveta> apollo13: they can edit /etc/group, but nobody would know whom they added to what group, only know that they changed 'something'
3818 [23:51:14] <Ilyas> perhaps I misunderstood the process
3819 [23:51:17] <apollo13> I usually kickstart the installs
3820 [23:51:23] <Ilyas> it's fine though now, just unexpected
3821 [23:51:32] <psychoticwarrior> yes /etc/group i agree
3822 [23:51:33] <Ilyas> I'm a n00b at this, I can't automate the installs yet
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3824 [23:51:36] <Ilyas> one step at a time
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3829 [23:51:59] <Ilyas> next step is to get Vritualbox guest additions working in my VM
3830 [23:52:05] <Ilyas> last time I tried this the VM exploded
3831 [23:52:07] <Ilyas> ._.
3832 [23:52:12] <Sveta> Ilyas: I think you misunderstood it, and perhaps the installer had an option of not using the root user like apollo13 said, but you missed that option
3833 [23:52:19] <Sveta> Ilyas: in any case, it is all perfect now, you're all set :)
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3835 [23:52:25] <Ilyas> ya, thankees
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3839 [23:53:26] <Sveta> :-)
3840 [23:53:35] <psychoticwarrior> how ya doin Sveta
3841 [23:53:40] <psychoticwarrior> i like that vodka
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3843 [23:54:33] <Ilyas> so, anyone familiar with getting guest additions working in Virtualbox?
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3847 [23:54:45] <Sveta> maybe, why do you ask?
3848 [23:54:46] <Ilyas> note: Debian is the VM(guest)
3849 [23:55:05] <Sveta> go on :)
3850 [23:55:07] <Ilyas> because I want to do that, but the process isn't as straightforward as on a windows host
3851 [23:55:14] <Ilyas> er, guest
3852 [23:55:30] <apollo13> Ilyas: insert the cd
3853 [23:55:32] <apollo13> mount it
3854 [23:55:37] <Ilyas> ok
3855 [23:55:42] <apollo13> then just execute the install script in the linux subfolder
3856 [23:55:46] <apollo13> it should take care of the rest
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3858 [23:56:21] <Ilyas> error"can't find the autorun program
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3860 [23:57:55] <Ilyas> looks like the terminal can't handle the script
3861 [23:58:01] <apollo13> …
3862 [23:58:11] <apollo13> there is an sh script in the linux subfolder
3863 [23:58:14] <apollo13> named install.sh or so
3864 [23:58:21] <Ilyas> autorun.sh ?
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3866 [23:58:38] <apollo13> no, install.sh or so
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3869 [23:59:17] <Ilyas> nah, there is an autorun.sh and a VBoxLinuxAdditions.run file, among others
3870 [23:59:17] <rant> iirc guest additions are in debian and install by default
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3872 [23:59:35] <rant> the issue would be making sure you use the same version of VBox as debian has
3873 [23:59:52] <rant> the .run file is the installer
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