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11 [00:07:51] <sanmarcos> i have a totally cucked system
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14 [00:09:37] <annadane> sanmarcos, stable?
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17 [00:10:56] <sanmarcos> yes its cucked with netfilter
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20 [00:12:55] <dant> Tried to connect to irc.debian.org: problems with certificate
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23 [00:14:32] <annadane> sanmarcos, if you want us to help you'll need to be more specific
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25 [00:14:42] <annadane> dant, which irc client
26 [00:15:28] <dant> "certificate meant for coulomb.oftc.net, not irc.debian.org"
27 [00:15:30] <dant> Pidgin
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34 [00:19:04] <dant> probably not meant to be used with encryption my bad
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39 [00:21:54] <sanmarcos> annadane: dude the netfilter shit is done operation not permitted, impossible to debug unless you are a kermel debelvoper
40 [00:22:29] <sanmarcos> milk vampire
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44 [00:22:40] <annadane> well, that isn't helpful. i have no idea what you're trying to do
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46 [00:23:22] <sanmarcos> I am getting ERROR: netlink XFRM_MSG_DELPOLICY response for flow on ipsec/libreswan
47 [00:23:32] <sanmarcos> auth.log on connection, only on one machine
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55 [00:28:29] <krytarik> dant: Connecting to 'irc.oftc.net' directly should give no errors though.
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66 [00:33:19] <dant> krytarik: ok thx
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157 [01:37:33] <dkz> sup
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168 [01:48:36] <dant> Quick question: what do you recommend for a desktop widget application
169 [01:48:47] <dant> namely a notepad
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172 [01:52:54] <awal1> wich DE
173 [01:53:05] <awal1> ?
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175 [01:53:24] <dant> GNOME 3
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178 [01:56:58] <dant> I'll use the Notes
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184 [01:59:54] <dvs> Lotus Notes? lol
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192 [02:01:40] <babs> when install gvfs-daemons it tries to install "libbluray1", which is not existant halting the install. is there any way around this?
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199 [02:03:17] <awal1> gdesklets , screenlets or gnome shellextensions
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203 [02:04:21] <solevita> is this the right channel for the debian livecd?
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205 [02:04:51] <Devastator> !livecd
206 [02:04:51] <dpkg> A "live CD" (or live system) is an operating system that can boot and run directly from CD. Linux-based examples are Knoppix and Ubuntu. Useful as a rescue CD or for showing off to your geek friends. Debian has its own Live CD (replaced-url
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210 [02:07:22] <solevita> can i make the livecd persistent on a usb stick?
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220 [02:11:27] <hamk> hi. how can i unload i915 if its already dynamically loaded and other modules are using it?
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222 [02:12:44] <babs> gvfs-daemons has some weird deps
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224 [02:12:53] <babs> well one weird one
225 [02:12:58] <babs> that does not exist
226 [02:13:15] <anonnumberanon> for people who dual boot and want to install testing and move and resize partitions and swap hard drives, it will break, I went through it and came out okay, ask me when you get stuck
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235 [02:18:00] <zeGab3303> So, is IntelliJ not available on Debian for license reasons or just no maintainers?
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238 [02:21:56] <rant> heh
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242 [02:24:35] <zeGab3303> Java support is not quite as good in emacs. :/
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363 [03:42:19] <Learnerwind> Hey how can i go back in time on linux? I mean set my date to octuber 10 ( just to make my mathematica work )
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365 [03:42:56] <Learnerwind> date --set="10 OCT 2017 00:40:00"
366 [03:43:07] <Learnerwind> I tried it but didnt worked
367 [03:43:16] <mandeep> Learnerwind: did you check your system settings
368 [03:43:23] <Learnerwind> date +%Y%m%d -s "20171010"
369 [03:43:32] <Learnerwind> mandeep: What do you mean?
370 [03:43:48] <mandeep> Learnerwind: i mean you are using a desktop environment right?
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372 [03:44:09] <Learnerwind> Yeah
373 [03:44:22] <Learnerwind> Cinnamon dares to challenge the command line
374 [03:44:25] <mandeep> so most DEs have a system settings application of the sort
375 [03:44:25] <Learnerwind> Thank you
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377 [03:45:36] <Learnerwind> Even modifying on cinnamon the change does not takes place
378 [03:45:42] <mandeep> what
379 [03:46:34] <Learnerwind> I am still on Oct 31
380 [03:46:47] <Learnerwind> Even changing the time
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387 [03:50:20] <themill> What happens when you run date --set? (and are you running ntp?)
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389 [03:51:07] <Learnerwind> The date stays the same
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391 [03:51:15] <Learnerwind> Yes i am. Should i kill?
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393 [03:51:41] <Learnerwind> Actually not it was the grep
394 [03:51:42] <themill> ntp's job is to set the correct time... you should stop it if you don't want that
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396 [03:53:36] <Learnerwind> I will log out and in. Try to kill cinnamon and change it from console
397 [03:53:43] <Learnerwind> If i do not came back it worked
398 [03:53:53] <themill> It would be good to see real command and real output in a pastebin
399 [03:54:42] <Learnerwind> Command:
400 [03:54:45] <Learnerwind> sudo date +%Y%m%d -s "20171010"
401 [03:54:54] <Learnerwind> Outputr: 20171010
402 [03:55:16] <Learnerwind> Then: date
403 [03:55:23] <Learnerwind> output: Tue Oct 31 00:54:56 -02 2017
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405 [03:57:01] <Learnerwind> sudo date --set="10 OCT 2017 00:40:00"
406 [03:57:02] <Learnerwind> Tue Oct 10 00:40:00 -03 2017
407 [03:57:09] <Learnerwind> Tue Oct 31 00:56:58 -02 2017
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417 [04:02:00] <themill> works fine here. Sure you don't have ntp or timesyncd or similar running?
418 [04:02:18] <themill> Is this in a virtual machine?
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436 [04:13:23] <magyar> hi, how can I determine which config options were passed when building the apache2,4 debian package?
437 [04:13:30] <rant> nothing comes to mind designed for this purpose but it seems to me you could create a wrapper that would just respond incorrectly to calls to check the time and that would be much less harmful to the whole system if you are doing this only for one program
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443 [04:18:49] <rant> magyar: check the debian/rules file within the package
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447 [04:19:28] <rant> magyar: the source package that is
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449 [04:20:29] <magyar> rant: so the binary will not have that info?
450 [04:20:48] <magyar> only deb-src repo
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454 [04:22:06] <rant> magyar: not that I know of.. naturally the source package would though
455 [04:22:17] <ChmEarl> magyar, apachectl -V
456 [04:22:28] <ChmEarl> ^^ a partial list of settings
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460 [04:23:12] <rant> magyar: as just pointed out though many apps have list of such things available through thier command line options like cryptsetup can output its built in modes and defaults for example
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473 [04:35:52] <aped0p> Hello, i really need help to reinstall windows XP from a USB pen, can some nice guy help a wannabe out of this trouble.
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475 [04:36:43] <rant> aped0p: thats way off topic in this channel and unsupported by the mfg of the software
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480 [04:38:28] <aped0p> rant , its so hard to send me a url?
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482 [04:39:06] <rant> replaced-url
483 [04:39:12] <aped0p> First time i use a mouse. and the last time was when i saw your fish goes m000
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485 [04:39:42] <aped0p> can you google it for my?
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488 [04:39:53] <aped0p> I dont know how to use search engine
489 [04:40:30] <rant> aped0p: let me attempt to make this an on-topic discussion.. are you a Debian user?
490 [04:41:00] <rant> aped0p: i.e. is the platform you have to work from currently running Debian?
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492 [04:41:34] * dax points in the direction of ##windows-legacy
493 [04:41:39] <dax> (##windows doesn't support obsolete crap)
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495 [04:43:05] <rant> thats a good nudge.. I should note this use is also discussing this in #freenode
496 [04:43:14] <dax> yeah, i saw
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501 [04:44:30] <rant> if the discussion were merely how to make a CD bootable from USB using Debian because one doesn't have a cdrom drive that's a more ontopic conversation
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893 [09:38:13] <Haohmaru> i'm having troubles with suspend and getting out of suspend randomly
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895 [09:38:40] <Haohmaru> like.. 30% of the times it doesn't work
896 [09:38:47] <pingfloyd> Haohmaru: I often have/had those issues
897 [09:39:00] <Haohmaru> what was the cure?
898 [09:39:06] <pingfloyd> here's one thing to try.
899 [09:39:24] <pingfloyd> power/disk = shutdown in your /etc/sysfs.d/local.conf
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901 [09:40:39] <Haohmaru> i don't have such file or directory even
902 [09:40:51] <pingfloyd> one sec
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904 [09:41:11] <Haohmaru> do you mean sysctl.d/ ?
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907 [09:43:21] <pingfloyd> no
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909 [09:44:00] <pingfloyd> do you have sysfsutils installed?
910 [09:44:20] <pingfloyd> actually you don't even need that installed
911 [09:44:25] <pingfloyd> I don't have it installed
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914 [09:44:44] <Haohmaru> thing is, both the mouse and keyboard are USB devices, the PC doesn't have ps/2 ports, and their power gets cut off on suspend, so i can't wake it up in any other way except for pressing the power button
915 [09:44:46] <pingfloyd> I made have made the directory and file manually
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917 [09:45:04] <pingfloyd> oh
918 [09:45:16] <pingfloyd> the power button always works fine though?
919 [09:45:25] <pingfloyd> I always use the power button anyway
920 [09:45:53] <Haohmaru> and most of the time when i press the power button - the mouse/kb light up immediately, and the PC gets out of suspend nicely
921 [09:45:56] <pingfloyd> I actually prefer that behavior so it doesn't come out of sleep when I don't what
922 [09:45:58] <pingfloyd> want
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924 [09:46:15] <Haohmaru> but some other times - nothing happens.. and a few minutes later the PC reboots itself
925 [09:46:28] <pingfloyd> the thing I gave you doesn't have any effect on that
926 [09:46:41] <pingfloyd> more of something that may help if you have issues with it being stable and consistent
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928 [09:47:50] <pingfloyd> from suspend and not from hibernate right?
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930 [09:48:02] <Haohmaru> i never use hibernate
931 [09:48:30] <pingfloyd> strange that it reboots itself sometimes
932 [09:48:39] <pingfloyd> I was having a different issue
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934 [09:48:53] <Haohmaru> i use the "suspend" option from lxsession-logout
935 [09:49:00] <pingfloyd> my system would run hotter once in rare random while after coming out of suspend
936 [09:49:19] <pingfloyd> and it would be running in this hotter state until I rebooted
937 [09:49:37] <Haohmaru> now i tried installing xfce4-power-manager and setting it up into LXDE
938 [09:49:43] <pingfloyd> same here or let the timer kick it off
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940 [09:49:49] <Haohmaru> but the problem is still here
941 [09:50:01] <pingfloyd> I use xfce also
942 [09:50:10] <Haohmaru> i use LXDE
943 [09:50:26] <pingfloyd> why that one instead of xfce?
944 [09:50:34] <pingfloyd> I've used lxde in the past
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946 [09:50:42] <Haohmaru> ..which uses openbox, and openbox can use different power managers
947 [09:50:55] <pingfloyd> I don't much like openbox
948 [09:50:58] <Haohmaru> well, lxde is the least annoying DE
949 [09:51:00] <pingfloyd> I know you can change it
950 [09:51:16] <pingfloyd> but lxde is kind of built around the assumption of using it as your WM
951 [09:51:18] <Haohmaru> yes, after a bunch of configuration and customizations
952 [09:51:35] <pingfloyd> it integrates with it really well
953 [09:51:40] <pingfloyd> but I'm not a fan of openbox
954 [09:51:42] <Haohmaru> xfce4 was also acceptable
955 [09:51:50] <pingfloyd> it's my least favorite box wm
956 [09:51:54] <Haohmaru> the other DEs are horrible in all kinds of ways
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958 [09:52:02] <pingfloyd> it has the coolest name of them though
959 [09:52:25] <Haohmaru> uhm, you can use a different window manager with openbox
960 [09:52:25] <pingfloyd> fluxbox and blackbox are much better imo
961 [09:52:46] <pingfloyd> openbox is a wm
962 [09:52:58] <Haohmaru> yes.. but.. it's very configurable
963 [09:53:01] <pingfloyd> you mean with lxde?
964 [09:53:09] <Haohmaru> hm.. maybe
965 [09:53:25] <Haohmaru> well, i use LXDE, and i've surely tried some different window managers
966 [09:53:36] <pingfloyd> usually you can change WMs in most DEs with varying degrees of trouble and success
967 [09:54:03] <pingfloyd> I think icewm is a pretty good one for a standalone
968 [09:54:47] <Haohmaru> basically i want something that is similar to win98 ;P~
969 [09:55:26] <Haohmaru> i expect a window to have a title bar, minimize/maximize/close buttons on the right side, and an icon on the left side
970 [09:55:31] <Haohmaru> no crazy sh*t
971 [09:55:38] <pingfloyd> icewm is very similar to w98
972 [09:55:57] <pingfloyd> did you ever try that one out
973 [09:56:10] <Haohmaru> it sounds familiar, i might have
974 [09:56:19] <Haohmaru> but i stayed with openbox
975 [09:56:31] <pingfloyd> in looks and feel it is practically like using 98
976 [09:56:48] <Haohmaru> i'll check it out when i get home
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981 [09:58:13] <Haohmaru> i also don't fully like the lxpanel, i partially like xfce4-panel, but i think the last thing i did at home was to use a combination of lxpanel (just for the menu button) and tint2 for the rest
982 [09:58:20] <Haohmaru> i'm not entirely happy tho
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989 [10:02:53] <Haohmaru> "Note that if the power manager does not inhibit systemd for the appropriate events you can end up with a situation where systemd suspends your system and then when the system is woken up the other power manager suspends it again. As of December 2016, the power managers of KDE, GNOME, Xfce and MATE issue the necessary inhibited commands"
990 [10:03:10] <Haohmaru> ^ from wiki.archlinux
991 [10:03:50] <Haohmaru> so it's possible that systemd "handles" the suspend/wake command in parallel to some other power manager, and they both may randomly clash?!
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1000 [10:11:33] <Haohmaru> i just tested doing "journalctl -b -u systemd-suspend" and it said "no entries", then i tried suspending and waking up via lxsession-logout as usual (and it worked smoothly), and then repeated that command and now it lists entries
1001 [10:11:53] <Haohmaru> does that mean that systemd is also "engaged" with suspending?
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1003 [10:12:05] <Haohmaru> or is it just "monitoring"
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1117 [10:56:02] <gaurishankar> hello debian users
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1139 [10:59:44] <gaurishankar> I had upgraded from debian jessie to stretch and getting some error like atomic update failure on pipe A
1140 [10:59:50] <gaurishankar> what does it mean
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1314 [11:07:08] <annadane> gaurishankar, where do you get that error? in the terminal? can you give your complete output? paste.debian.net
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1319 [11:07:40] <gaurishankar> when system is booting
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1325 [11:08:01] <gaurishankar> every 10 15 minutes this error flahes
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1328 [11:08:24] <annadane> gaurishankar, journalctl may provide clues
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1334 [11:09:11] <gaurishankar> This happened after U upgraded from jessie to stretch
1335 [11:09:24] <gaurishankar> This happened after I upgraded from jessie to stretch
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1351 [11:11:30] <gaurishankar> How do i check the journalctl
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1382 [11:20:38] <annadane> gaurishankar, probably journalctl -xb
1383 [11:20:46] <annadane> but you can check the man page
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1398 [11:26:49] <gaurishankar> correct
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1405 [11:28:58] <cybrNaut> after installing ungoogled-chromium (which is not in the debian repo), aptitude wants to "upgrade" chromium, falsely detecting that I have installed the official chromium. What's the best remedy here? Should I pin the version? The unpin and re-pin each time I install a new .deb file?
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1416 [11:30:48] <cybrNaut> is there a way to make aptitude know that my version of chromium is not the official one?
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1419 [11:33:28] <gaurishankar> annadane , I cant make anything out of journalctl errors
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1421 [11:34:24] <annadane> gaurishankar, indeed. i'm not actually sure what to look for in a case like that. you can try posting it to the above linked paste site and see if the experts have any idea
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1427 [11:35:34] <gaurishankar> which link
1428 [11:35:47] <annadane> gaurishankar, paste.debian.net
1429 [11:36:04] <gaurishankar> thanks annadane
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1432 [11:36:56] <annadane> it should appear in journalctl, anyway. the default is not to have persistent journalctl (which means something from the last boot session won't be visible) but you said it was every 10-15 minutes
1433 [11:37:13] <annadane> though you also said while booting, which confuses me slightly
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1435 [11:37:40] <gaurishankar> I mean the systems boots properly, I am able to use it
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1437 [11:37:53] <gaurishankar> but every 10-15 minutes it shows this error
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1439 [11:38:06] <annadane> gaurishankar, see the error where?
1440 [11:38:22] <gaurishankar> on root propmpt of the server
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1442 [11:38:39] <gaurishankar> it is a debian stretch server
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1444 [11:38:54] <annadane> are you SSH'd in or is this your own computer
1445 [11:38:55] <g0zzy> # Automatically generated for Debian scripts. DO NOT TOUCH! That's the header in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf. That file names root with no password. The problem is that i'm getting errors in log rotate for mysql ( replaced-url
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1448 [11:39:40] <gaurishankar> my own computer in the network
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1457 [11:43:05] <gaurishankar> paste.debian.net/993551
1458 [11:43:14] <gaurishankar> annadane paste.debian.net/993551 this is the link
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1460 [11:44:28] <annadane> 'kay. this is where my knowledge ends and someone more knowledgeable can hopefully chime in
1461 [11:44:40] <gaurishankar> correct
1462 [11:45:52] <annadane> and if nobody answers for a while you can try debian-user@lists.debian.org
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1506 [12:11:00] <Cerebr0> Hi ! I'm having troubles detecting my battery on my notebook, is there hardware detection soft in debian for this ?
1507 [12:11:10] <Cerebr0> Or is there any way to know what's wrong about it ?
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1553 [12:39:34] <at0m> g0zzy: sure, as root: /bin/sh /etc/cron.daily/$script
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1555 [12:40:09] <at0m> even dismiss the /bin/sh
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1586 [12:52:58] <treaki> hi there, i am trying to follow the qemu networking with vde guide at replaced-url
1587 [12:53:13] <treaki> the problem is that: replaced-url
1588 [12:53:17] <treaki> it isnt working...
1589 [12:53:31] <treaki> i have added it to interfaces but ifup dose not find it
1590 [12:53:45] <treaki> i would appreciate any help on that
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1607 [13:01:29] <Eightynine> Hello. How can I turn zip file to Debian package? Is that possible?
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1609 [13:02:22] <babilen> "mv foo.zip foo.deb" ;)
1610 [13:02:33] <babilen> Eightynine: What are you trying to achieve?
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1613 [13:03:03] <Eightynine> Exodus software wallet.
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1618 [13:03:54] <babilen> You are trying to achieve "exodus software wallet" ?
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1624 [13:04:29] <Eightynine> Yes, didn't try it yet but I'll try what you said.
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1626 [13:05:04] <babilen> That just renames a file, I doubt it does what you want .. but then I don't know what you want (hence my question)
1627 [13:05:06] <azarus> Eightynine: mv foo.zip foo.deb is meant as a joke.
1628 [13:05:19] <babilen> Sorry if it wasn't obvious that it is a joke
1629 [13:05:27] <Eightynine> No, I need to create installer.
1630 [13:05:33] <azarus> You can't magically turn any zip file into a debian package.
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1632 [13:05:38] <azarus> Just not possible.
1633 [13:05:54] <azarus> Except, maybe, if there's a deb file in the zip you could extract it, I suppose.
1634 [13:06:11] <babilen> Eightynine: So you want to package software that is provided in a .zip by upstream for Debian?
1635 [13:06:19] <babilen> What does that .zip contain?
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1639 [13:07:19] <Eightynine> Yes. It contains Electron application I downloaded from their site. I wanted to try to build Debian package and send it to developers.
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1642 [13:10:03] <treaki> babilen, lol, yea just rename them ;)
1643 [13:10:05] <azarus> There's quite a lot that goes into making and maintaining a debian package.
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1645 [13:10:19] <azarus> It's quite bureaucratic, imo
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1649 [13:10:45] <treaki> Eightynine, what is it you have in the zip archive?
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1651 [13:10:49] <azarus> And to get it officially in Debian? That'll take a while.
1652 [13:10:58] <babilen> Eightynine: Well, packaging for Debian is not a trivial matter - You can look into replaced-url
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1655 [13:11:31] <Eightynine> Locales, resources, and a couple of libraries.
1656 [13:11:41] <babilen> So it contains binaries?
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1658 [13:11:57] <treaki> ah just read, electron is avaivable in debian, just do a simple apt install electron and youll have a bitcoin client...
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1660 [13:12:21] <babilen> treaki: Is that the same as the "software wallet" Eightynine seems to refer to?
1661 [13:12:32] <Eightynine> Yes.
1662 [13:12:36] <treaki> *electrum
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1664 [13:12:39] <treaki> apt-cache show electrum
1665 [13:12:42] <treaki> [...]
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1668 [13:12:48] <treaki> Description-en: Easy to use bitcoin client
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1670 [13:12:50] <babilen> judd: i electrum
1671 [13:12:50] <treaki> [...]
1672 [13:12:51] <judd> Package electrum (utils, optional) in stretch/amd64: Easy to use Bitcoin client. Version: 2.7.9-1; Size: 20.9k; Installed: 49k; Homepage: replaced-url
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1677 [13:13:38] <babilen> judd: v electrum
1678 [13:13:39] <judd> Package: electrum on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 1.9.8-4~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.9.8-4; jessie-backports: 2.7.9-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 2.7.9-1; buster: 2.9.3-1; sid: 2.9.3-1
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1680 [13:14:07] <Eightynine> Didn't knew that Electrum is awailable, I had to download it and install it manually. The other wallet is just Electron application and they have no deb yet.
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1682 [13:14:41] * treaki solved his problem
1683 [13:14:48] <babilen> So the wallet is different from the application packaged as "electrum" in Debian already?
1684 [13:14:51] <treaki> just missed one line...
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1690 [13:16:40] <Eightynine> Probably a bug in Firefox. Tried to download AMD drivers for Windows, selected to save it on my Ubuntu flash drive. It was unable to do that because of insufficient space. Tried to download it again and it didn't ask me where to save it to give me an option to save to other drive.
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1695 [13:18:23] <Eightynine> Electrum is other wallet. It's only for Bitcoin and it's written in Python. And Exodus is other wallet it uses Electron and comes as exe for Windows and only as zip file for Linux.
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1697 [13:18:49] <azarus> Eightynine: How about unzipping it and seeing what's inside? ;)
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1707 [13:21:44] <g0zzy> at0m: Thanks. And it should log in the normal way?
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1712 [13:23:18] <Eightynine> I unzipped and told what's inside :D I can run it only from terminal. That's not handy.
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1717 [13:26:09] <devrimgunduz> Hi. I am new to Debian packaging (I am an RPM guy). Can you please point to a guide for such packagers? I found a few howtos, and they were out of date. Especially looking for Java packaging guidelines.
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1726 [13:30:23] <emorris> Hi, is there a way for Debian to detect when a network change occurs? In particular, sometimes the system might boot before the router/DHCP server is up, but it never re-asks for an IP address. Is NetworkManager or similar required, or is there a way to do this at a lower level? Thanks in advance.
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1732 [13:32:54] <g0zzy> afaik, in the example you gave, it _should_ re-request the connection. Mine does
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1744 [13:37:45] <OtakuSenpai> are there any free online debian shells?
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1746 [13:37:54] <OtakuSenpai> you guys know of?
1747 [13:38:43] <annadane> shells as in what?
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1750 [13:39:16] <uramhoaH> should i uninstall "acpid" and any other power managers and rely on systemd for "suspend" ?
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1753 [13:39:34] <OtakuSenpai> annadane: like a free linux shell(bash) on debian system
1754 [13:39:44] <OtakuSenpai> like sdf.org, but not bsd
1755 [13:39:48] <OtakuSenpai> linux
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1760 [13:41:53] <OtakuSenpai> guys?
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1767 [13:44:05] <annadane> OtakuSenpai, replaced-url
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1769 [13:44:33] <OtakuSenpai> annadane: online shell
1770 [13:44:40] <OtakuSenpai> something you access over ssh
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1793 [13:54:56] <jmsbnd> well, you really mean "someone who provides you an access to their server"
1794 [13:55:17] <jmsbnd> it's definitely not called an online shell :)
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1796 [13:55:30] <jmsbnd> they create you a shell account in their server(s)
1797 [13:55:32] <annadane> OtakuSenpai, i found replaced-url
1798 [13:55:38] <annadane> note that i have not vetted it at all
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1801 [13:56:16] <OtakuSenpai> annadane: i tried it b4, it asks to write a letter to germany :|
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1803 [13:56:24] <OtakuSenpai> the site maintainer tht is
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1805 [13:56:48] <jmsbnd> you can get your own vps for like 5 bucks
1806 [13:56:57] <annadane> and yeah, was going to say
1807 [13:57:02] <annadane> vps is probably what you want
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1809 [13:57:18] <OtakuSenpai> ok
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1811 [13:57:24] <OtakuSenpai> any good free vps?
1812 [13:57:53] <jmsbnd> no
1813 [13:58:08] <OtakuSenpai> ?
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1815 [13:58:34] <OtakuSenpai> i want to run my irc app in it
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1817 [13:58:47] <sophiya> what's it written in
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1819 [13:59:00] <OtakuSenpai> c++
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1823 [13:59:37] <sophiya> I c++ the problem now
1824 [14:00:11] <jmsbnd> free is rarely good, though you can of course google, there are a few that offer something
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1830 [14:01:58] <annadane> unless you're really strapped for cash i'm sure they're not expensive
1831 [14:02:09] <annadane> trusting free services is generally bad
1832 [14:02:25] <annadane> well, at least for like, storage... it's a nebulous area
1833 [14:02:31] <OtakuSenpai> IM strapped of cash
1834 [14:02:42] <OtakuSenpai> i dont wanna store anything for now
1835 [14:02:48] <OtakuSenpai> no logs, nothing
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1840 [14:05:00] <jmsbnd> vultr offers vps for 2.50/mo in miami for example
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1844 [14:05:43] <annadane> i mean i want to say amazon has encrypted cloud whatever but i don't really know
1845 [14:05:47] <jmsbnd> and scaleway prices start at 2.99eu/mo
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1849 [14:07:46] <hid3> Hello. Anyone ever faced a case where certbot does NOT renew the SSL certificates even though they are subjected to be renewed? I have 'certbot' and 'python-certbot' packages installed from official repositories
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1852 [14:08:36] <jmsbnd> what do logs say? /var/log/letsencrypt/
1853 [14:08:55] <annadane> i was actually looking on prism-break.org but i couldn't really find a vps section
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1856 [14:09:33] <tsukiyomi> I'm receiving the following error whenever I try to send an email with evolution: replaced-url
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1858 [14:09:53] <tsukiyomi> Any clue as to how I could resolve it?
1859 [14:10:26] <gpunk> restart your router / network connexion
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1862 [14:10:38] <tsukiyomi> I did, nothing changed
1863 [14:10:42] <awal1> Some manuals (man apt-cache , search section, for example) are translated say to Spanish but they contain some parts in English. I see that in many manuals. Is that voluntary? I mean that the translator prefers to leave the man in native language (English) for avoid errors or what?
1864 [14:10:43] <hid3> jmsbnd: the latest log pasted here: replaced-url
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1868 [14:11:29] <awal1> Any one using spanish locals can confirm?
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1870 [14:11:39] <awal1> or maybe french too
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1872 [14:11:52] <willemb> setting cpuquotas on jessie doesn't seem to work unless I use a backports kernel. is that to be expected?
1873 [14:12:10] <annadane> awal1, afaik it's not mandatory to have translations
1874 [14:12:24] <awal1> almost all apt-cache is translated except some parts ñike search section, I meant
1875 [14:12:33] <annadane> it's just a nice gesture from the man page writer
1876 [14:12:41] <awal1> anndane, well, I know that
1877 [14:12:52] <awal1> but that wasn't my question :P
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1880 [14:13:22] <awal1> It is about to know if that is a missing translation part or voluntary stuff
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1882 [14:14:01] <annadane> oh, sorry.
1883 [14:14:09] <annadane> yeah, question's clearer now
1884 [14:14:20] <awal1> My deduction is that is voluntary, but not sure
1885 [14:14:34] <awal1> english not my native language :P
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1887 [14:14:58] <hid3> jmsbnd: sorry, that output must have been for 'certbot certificates' command. This one is for the cron: replaced-url
1888 [14:15:10] <awal1> Berber :)
1889 [14:15:11] <annadane> i mean as you probably know - and what i kind of already answered - there exist entire seperate man pages for different langs
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1891 [14:15:26] <hid3> last time they expired completely. I tried to run command manually but even then it said it's not due!! It only worked with --force :(
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1893 [14:16:29] <jmsbnd> hid3: but these certificates listed in the first paste don't expire yet :)
1894 [14:17:30] <hid3> they expire in 32 days as far as I know. And the renewal is possible when 60 days or less is remaining, isn't it?
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1899 [14:18:20] <MacroZero> Could someone please explain how to share folders between debian host and debian guest in VirtualBox? most guides online are Windows host related
1900 [14:18:21] <annadane> i actually don't see anything in spanish in the apt-cache man page
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1906 [14:19:35] <awal1> hmmm, bad internet connection to paste/link a manual page example
1907 [14:20:19] <awal1> annadane, that is bcuz you are not using spanish idiom for your system
1908 [14:20:20] <jmsbnd> hid3: afaik, these certs are valid for 90 days and you can renew after 60
1909 [14:20:27] <jmsbnd> so you should be able to renew them in a few days
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1911 [14:21:20] <hid3> well, okay, I will wait 2 more days and see what happens
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1913 [14:21:42] <hid3> also, another Q - I suppose I don't need a separate cron job for that, as systemd timer handles the renewal, right?
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1915 [14:22:03] <hid3> there's a certbot.timer
1916 [14:22:58] <annadane> awal1, while there's probably a simple answer you can probably contact debian-doc@lists.debian.org
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1918 [14:23:24] <hid3> It seems tu run certbot twice a day with a random delay of up to 3600 sec.
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1922 [14:27:02] <jmsbnd> hid3: didn't even know about certbot.timer before
1923 [14:27:02] <awal1> annadane, not really a problem. just an example replaced-url
1924 [14:27:46] <jmsbnd> tsukiyomi: are you by any change an ipv6 user?
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1930 [14:31:12] <hid3> jmsbnd: I also didn't know about it. I used to have a cron job. But upon inspection log file dates, i realized that it runs more often than I have thought
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1933 [14:31:46] <jmsbnd> yeah, I have a cron job as well, but disabled it now as certbot.timer should handle everything. good catch :)
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1940 [14:34:19] <hid3> wonder what restarts nignx/apache/whatever after the certs have been renewed...
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1942 [14:34:43] <nkuttler> what renews the certs?
1943 [14:35:04] <nkuttler> hid3: certbot can just do that
1944 [14:35:44] <annadane> i know very little about certs but if this is a new problem it's possible the cert is delayed for whatever reason
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1947 [14:36:22] <jmsbnd> there's actually a cronjob installed by certbot deb /etc/cron.d/certbot
1948 [14:36:29] <hid3> There is a service: /lib/systemd/system/certbot.service
1949 [14:36:38] <hid3> it only mentions the renewal part
1950 [14:36:51] <hid3> but where is the apache/nginx reload part upon successful renewal?
1951 [14:36:59] <nkuttler> certbot --renew-hook
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1955 [14:37:19] <hid3> yeah, but the --renew-hook is not enabled
1956 [14:37:32] <nkuttler> so customize it
1957 [14:37:38] <jmsbnd> it's set in /etc/letsencrypt/renewal/*.conf file
1958 [14:37:55] <hid3> jmsbnd: that cron checks the existance of a certain dir. If the dir exists ( what means that the timer is handling the same), the cron will NOT run
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1960 [14:38:32] <hid3> yep, it's in /etc/letsencrypt/renewal/*.conf files
1961 [14:38:38] <hid3> so all should be fine then
1962 [14:38:52] <tsukuyomi> jmsbnd: I'm not sure if I'm using ipv6
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1966 [14:40:13] <tsukuyomi> jmsbnd: do you think ipv could cause the issue with evolution?
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1970 [14:41:35] * nkuttler notices his cert was renewed 4 days ago
1971 [14:41:39] <jmsbnd> quick google reveals ipv6 as one of the possible culprits, but might as well be your isp blocking ipv6, if that domain resolves to ipv6 address
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1973 [14:41:44] <nkuttler> didn't even realize it
1974 [14:41:45] <jmsbnd> but i'm not really sure
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1994 [14:48:17] <metastable> tsukuyomi: Can you pastebin the output of 'ip addr', 'ip route', 'ip -6 route', and 'ping smtp-mail.outlook.com'?
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2017 [14:56:35] <tsukuyomi> metastable: replaced-url
2018 [14:56:41] <tsukuyomi> as for the ping, it's not giving me a reply yet
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2023 [14:58:23] <jmsbnd> that smells like a problem
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2034 [15:01:43] <tsukuyomi> but then, if if don't pick smtp-mail.outlook.com as outgoing server, what should I go for?
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2036 [15:02:47] <metastable> IPv6 is not your problem, I can tell you that at least.
2037 [15:03:00] <metastable> You don't have a route that would cause your system to even try to contact the server over IPv6.
2038 [15:03:07] <metastable> Do you have telnet installed?
2039 [15:03:22] <metastable> Well, rewind. HOW is Evolution configured to talk to that SMTP server?
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2042 [15:03:48] <metastable> What port, SSL/TLS, STARTTLS, etc?
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2045 [15:05:15] <abrotman> test with telnet or swaks, then try with Evolution
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2053 [15:08:55] <tsukuyomi> I'll test with telnet
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2055 [15:09:37] <RedSoxFan07> abrotman: What's swaks?
2056 [15:09:57] <jmsbnd> smtp test tool
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2058 [15:11:02] <jmsbnd> but it's more like testing your own smtp server
2059 [15:11:05] <gpunk> oh your ISP could be blocking SMTP
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2061 [15:11:25] <r0b0> yes, especially port 25
2062 [15:11:29] <RedSoxFan07> jmsbnd: cool
2063 [15:11:46] <gpunk> or microsoft blacklisted your IP
2064 [15:12:07] <metastable> You'd still be able to connect. Microsoft doesn't block at the TCP layer.
2065 [15:13:02] <gpunk> or a temporary failure ... of some router in your sector
2066 [15:13:07] <gpunk> that happends
2067 [15:13:12] <metastable> tsukuyomi: Make sure you're using port 587, with STARTTLS enabled.
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2111 [15:32:11] <tsukuyomi> metastable: problem solved, it was a temporary failure
2112 [15:32:27] <tsukuyomi> thanks for the help btw
2113 [15:32:32] <tsukuyomi> :)
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2138 [15:41:07] <grumps> Hi! I'm tuning a Debian machine with an uwsgi service talking over a domain socket. I'm looking for a way to monitor if net.core.somaxconn net.core.netdev_max_backlog are of reasonable value. Any hint on monitoring current open connections and connection backlog on a domain socket?
2139 [15:41:18] <EoD> Hey. I just found bug #871158 and the solution provided is actually not valid. I tried to reply to it but it is already archived. Do you want me to open a new bug report? Or how does this usually work?
2140 [15:41:19] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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2147 [15:46:01] <gpunk> tsukuyomi still not working?
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2153 [15:47:23] <tsukuyomi> gpunk: it's working correctly now, it was a temporary server issue
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2155 [15:47:42] <gpunk> oh like i thaught, great it works now
2156 [15:48:04] <gpunk> that is microsoft
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2168 [15:55:30] <Trel> Anyone use XFCE on Debian Stretch and can take a look on if something is replicated for them as well with the clock on the panel? If you go into the config for it and leave it on any format other than custom and click ok, does it go blank?
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2189 [16:01:40] <f0ff> using gnome how do i enable wayland?
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2192 [16:02:46] <RedSoxFan07> f0ff: When you log in, there's a little gear icon. If you click on that, you can choose.
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2197 [16:04:27] <f0ff> yeah but no wayland there, although i am on testing
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2201 [16:05:07] <gpunk> I think it is by default installed and used
2202 [16:05:13] <gpunk> I am atleast
2203 [16:05:28] <gpunk> but i am mixing testing/unstable
2204 [16:05:52] <gpunk> and experimental
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2208 [16:06:45] <f0ff> ok i'll check around a bit more, was thinking if there was some extra package or config that you needed
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2210 [16:07:28] <gpunk> do a pstree you'll see what s running
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2213 [16:08:27] <eck> you should have WAYLAND_DISPLAY set in your env if you're in a graphical wayland session
2214 [16:09:22] <gpunk> i dont have it :(
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2217 [16:09:35] <adac> The following NEW packages will be installed:
2218 [16:09:35] <adac> firmware-linux-free
2219 [16:09:43] <f0ff> no wayland, also there is two gnome-shell sessions running one for gdm and one for my login, bit waste of memory :P
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2221 [16:09:52] <adac> how can I find out which packages does need this firmware stuff suddenly?
2222 [16:10:18] <eck> "waste of memory" that increases security and isolates the processes
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2225 [16:10:42] <gpunk> i am running wayland , I know it , i see it in ps / pstree
2226 [16:11:56] <f0ff> do you have two gnome-shell sessions with wayland too?
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2228 [16:12:17] <gpunk> yes both
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2263 [16:26:25] <adac> does "apt-cache depends packagename" check the newest package available or the already installed one?
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2267 [16:27:27] <gpunk> the newest if you did apt update lately
2268 [16:27:51] <EnchanterTim> Hello. What is the /etc/aliases file do?
2269 [16:28:00] <EnchanterTim> It defines only local mail users?
2270 [16:28:02] <gpunk> for emails
2271 [16:28:08] <EnchanterTim> Or does it work with say dovecot's virtual users?
2272 [16:28:14] <gpunk> no
2273 [16:28:19] <gpunk> with postfix yes
2274 [16:28:30] <EnchanterTim> Say something comes into postmaster@mydomain.com and I want to alias to a local user on the sytem who is admin
2275 [16:28:33] <EnchanterTim> is this possible?
2276 [16:28:33] <EnchanterTim> exim4
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2278 [16:28:52] <gpunk> i know with postfix you can
2279 [16:28:53] <EnchanterTim> But the @mydomain part is being handled by exim4/dovecot virtual users
2280 [16:29:12] <EnchanterTim> I ahve /etc/vmail/$domain/aliases and passwd where I define my users for imap
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2282 [16:29:35] <EnchanterTim> currently PAM auth is off and only dovecot auth is working with sasl
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2287 [16:29:57] <EnchanterTim> I don't want local users to be able to login, but only to have certain email addys forwarded to a local admin user
2288 [16:30:10] <EnchanterTim> local admin user mailbox is ~/Mailbox
2289 [16:30:32] <EnchanterTim> the virtual users re in /var/vmail/$domain/$user/Mailbox
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2368 [16:52:31] <anexit_> Anyone know why windows 7 is putting fec0:0:0:ffff as dns servers for ipv6?
2369 [16:52:47] <anexit_> running isc-dhcpd-server with ipv6
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2372 [16:53:34] <Dagger> implementation of replaced-url
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2374 [16:53:54] <Dagger> it configures them automatically if it has no other v6 DNS servers to use
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2382 [16:55:35] <fuzzface> are there no debian testing live images?
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2396 [16:56:58] <anexit_> Dagger: so windows 7 can't do ipv6 dns?
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2398 [16:57:14] <anexit_> well acquire
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2400 [16:58:01] <Dagger> only via DHCPv6 or static, not RDNSS
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2402 [16:58:23] <anexit_> Dagger: yeah, I'm using dhcpdv6 but windows isn't taking it
2403 [16:58:24] <Dagger> personally I'm too lazy to bother with DHCPv6, so I just put fec0:0:0:ffff::{1,2,3} on my DNS server
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2408 [17:00:09] <metastable> I just run DHCPv6 stateless.
2409 [17:00:15] <Dagger> it should work. you might need to set "AdvOtherConfigFlag on;" in radvd (or equivalent in whatever you're using for RAs) to get it to do the DHCPv6 request in the first place
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2413 [17:01:51] <Dagger> and yeah, bear in mind there's a difference between stateful DHCPv6 (for addresses) and stateless DHCPv6 (for config settings). I'm not sure if isc-dhcpd-server needs them activated separately or something
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2416 [17:02:48] <anexit_> This is what I'm using
2417 [17:02:49] <anexit_> replaced-url
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2432 [17:07:51] <Dagger> I don't have any experience with isc-dhcpd-server for v6, but that doesn't look obviously wrong
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2434 [17:07:55] <Dagger> what about radvd.conf?
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2438 [17:08:55] <anexit_> ah, I guess you need to ipconfig /release /renew in windows
2439 [17:08:59] <anexit_> lame
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2492 [17:28:06] <Doldge> hey guys', does anyone know what the best/easiest package is for sniffing/recording traffic? needs to be headless
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2495 [17:28:25] <gnumdk> tcpdump?
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2497 [17:28:37] <gpunk> snort/snarf
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2501 [17:29:06] <subpath> Doldge wireshark
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2505 [17:29:31] <awal1> wireshark, ettercap, dsniff
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2508 [17:29:48] <awal1> sslstrip ...
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2511 [17:30:05] <Doldge> wireshark isn't headless? tcpdump seems to already be installed so I'll use that, thanks
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2543 [17:43:09] <ScottE> tshark is the headless (terminal/console) version of wireshark
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2548 [17:45:02] <SpeakFreely> Hello, I'm on debian 8 and I'm wondering if the correct way to install CUDA drivers is through the run file? Since there is no package maintained. I seem to only have it partially installed, so I'm thinking I will need to uninstall it and reinstall. Want to make sure I do it the correct way.
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2580 [17:55:05] <metastable> ,v libcuda1
2581 [17:55:06] <judd> Package: libcuda1 on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 304.131-1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.102-1~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.102-1; jessie-backports/non-free: 375.82-1~deb9u1~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 375.82-1~deb9u1; stretch-backports/non-free: 375.82-4~bpo9+1; buster/non-free: 375.82-5; sid/non-free: 375.82-7; experimental/non-free: 384.90-2
2582 [17:55:29] <metastable> SpeakFreely: Are we talking about the development libraries, the hardware driver itself, or what?
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2584 [17:56:27] <jelly> ,v nvidia-cuda-dev
2585 [17:56:28] <judd> Package: nvidia-cuda-dev on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 4.2.9-2; wheezy-backports/non-free: 5.5.22-6~bpo70+2; jessie/non-free: 6.0.37-5; jessie-backports/non-free: 7.5.18-4~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 8.0.44-4; buster/non-free: 8.0.61-1; sid/non-free: 8.0.61-1
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2587 [17:56:57] <SpeakFreely> metastable: not the nvidia driver but the CUDA toolkit ie replaced-url
2588 [17:57:18] <metastable> ,v nvidia-cuda-toolkit
2589 [17:57:19] <judd> Package: nvidia-cuda-toolkit on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 4.2.9-2; wheezy-backports/non-free: 5.5.22-6~bpo70+2; jessie/non-free: 6.0.37-5; jessie-backports/non-free: 7.5.18-4~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 8.0.44-4; buster/non-free: 8.0.61-1; sid/non-free: 8.0.61-1
2590 [17:57:20] <metastable> That?
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2592 [17:57:37] <SpeakFreely> Yes, but I'd like to get 8.0 on jessie
2593 [17:57:37] <jelly> SpeakFreely: if 7.5.18 is fresh enough for you, use the package from jessie-backports
2594 [17:57:43] <SpeakFreely> Does not seem to be in the backports
2595 [17:57:45] <jelly> dpkg, tell SpeakFreely about non-free sources
2596 [17:57:50] <jelly> dpkg, tell SpeakFreely about jessie-backports
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2599 [17:58:03] <SpeakFreely> 8.0 is not in the backports though
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2601 [17:58:17] <jelly> no, you'd have to go debian 9 for that one
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2603 [17:58:35] <jelly> or ask the backports list for a newer backport
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2605 [17:59:28] <jelly> dunno about cuda toolkit, but driver installer makes a bit of a mess
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2608 [18:00:01] <jelly> so longterm it's saner to stick with debian's packaging instead of using nvidia's installer
2609 [18:00:02] <SpeakFreely> Yes I've installed the nvidia driver through the package manager (though I cannot tell if it is installed fully correctly, although everything seems to work)
2610 [18:00:23] <mallards> ddddd
2611 [18:00:44] <mallards> ops wrong window
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2617 [18:02:10] <ycyclist> Are there any documents out there to help with compatibility issues around the new openssl usage in Debian 9?
2618 [18:02:34] <greycat> mostly you install libssl1.0-dev instead of libssl-dev and then things work again
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2620 [18:02:53] <greycat> if by "things" you mean "programs" and "work" means "compile"
2621 [18:03:25] <jelly> those who have not updated source to be compatible w/ 1.1?
2622 [18:03:32] <greycat> like OpenSSH
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2626 [18:04:47] <sanmarcos> how can I check if I have a 64 bit kernel but 386 userland?
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2628 [18:04:59] <`ryban> aha
2629 [18:05:41] <greycat> sanmarcos: uname -a, and file /bin/ls
2630 [18:06:08] <ycyclist> Thank you.
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2633 [18:06:35] <jelly> sanmarcos: uname -a, and "dpkg --print-architecture"
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2635 [18:07:30] <ycyclist> Sorry, yes it appears 1.1 is the issue. So if I do not install libssl1.0-dev, things stop working because libssl-dev has 1.1?
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2637 [18:07:59] <jelly> ycyclist: it depends. What do you mean by "working" and "things"?
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2639 [18:08:41] <ycyclist> Say I want to install debian9 on aws. Am I going to have problems with utilities that were working before on debian8?
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2643 [18:09:20] <greycat> What problem are you having right now?
2644 [18:09:21] <sanmarcos> greycat: thank for your years of service in #debian
2645 [18:09:23] <sanmarcos> jelly: thank you
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2647 [18:09:42] <sanmarcos> I do have a 386 userland and a 64 bit kernel, can that cause issues?
2648 [18:09:49] <ycyclist> I am not, I fear I am just being paranoid.
2649 [18:10:00] <greycat> sanmarcos: Debian packages will not care, but some third party stuff might.
2650 [18:10:19] <sanmarcos> greycat: yeah Ive been having some problems with libreswan interacting with ipsec XFRM
2651 [18:10:23] <sanmarcos> i'll try rebooting into 32 bit kernel
2652 [18:10:42] <ycyclist> Yes. So is there documentation somewhere that programmers can use to help fix their code? Especially c code that needs updating for 1.1?
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2656 [18:11:46] <greycat> sanmarcos: I don't know what those things are. The kind of problem I was talking about, and the reason I used the word "care", is third party installer shell scripts that look at uname -a output, see "x86_64", and then go on to install the 64-bit version of themself.
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2660 [18:12:35] <sanmarcos> greycat: ahhh!
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2662 [18:12:59] <jelly> sanmarcos: once in a while there's software built for 32bit that interacts badly with an amd64; this often indicates a bug in kernel's i386 compatibility layer.
2663 [18:13:23] <jelly> sanmarcos: you could try to install :amd64 userspace packages instead and see if there's a difference
2664 [18:13:26] <ycyclist> You can find some things easily (replaced-url
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2666 [18:13:43] <ycyclist> I fear published stuff alone is going to be short-sighted.
2667 [18:14:03] <ycyclist> Primary sources, that is.
2668 [18:14:24] <jelly> sanmarcos: I've been running i386 userspace with amd64 kernel for years and have not seen issues in a while, except with fishy stuff like virtualbox
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2711 [18:29:29] <n4dir> what's the advantage to use a amd64 kernel if one uses 386 userspace?
2712 [18:30:23] <jelly> no PAE shenanigans means slight performance improvements
2713 [18:30:47] <n4dir> thanks.
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2715 [18:31:07] <jelly> also, ability to run occasional 64bit software
2716 [18:31:11] <n4dir> wait. follow up question: why not use both amd64?
2717 [18:31:21] <jelly> without reinstalling the os
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2720 [18:32:16] <jelly> there's no non-kludgy way to do an in-place crossgrade from i386 to amd64 userspace
2721 [18:32:25] <n4dir> you mean someone once installed 386 back then, now doesn't need to re-install, but used the amd64 kernel, avoids reinstalling, but gains the sligh performance upgrade?
2722 [18:32:45] <jelly> right
2723 [18:32:50] <n4dir> i only ask out of interest (i pretty much always use 386).
2724 [18:33:02] <n4dir> ok thanks for the explanation jelly
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2729 [18:33:45] <sanmarcos> jelly: it caused ipsec issues for me
2730 [18:33:57] <jelly> could be
2731 [18:34:16] <sanmarcos> is there a way to upgrade to amd64 userspace from i386 userspace?
2732 [18:34:33] <greycat> No supported way.
2733 [18:35:06] <sanmarcos> greycat: reinstall?
2734 [18:35:06] <jelly> sanmarcos: no. You can however add amd64 as a foreign architecture and install just the ipsec *swan and netfilter bits as 64bit
2735 [18:35:07] <r0b0> btw is there still amd64 kernel for i386 userspace in stretch?
2736 [18:35:14] <greycat> Well sure, a full reinstall works.
2737 [18:35:18] <sanmarcos> that sucks!
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2739 [18:35:25] <jelly> r0b0: no, you have to get it from amd64 arch
2740 [18:35:33] <jelly> which is not hard to do
2741 [18:35:45] <jelly> ,v linux-image-amd64 --arch i386
2742 [18:35:46] <judd> Package: linux-image-amd64 on i386 -- wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-backports: 3.16+63~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.16+63
2743 [18:36:02] <r0b0> yep, it's removed
2744 [18:36:24] <jelly> so you install linux-image-amd64:amd64 and linux-headers-amd64:amd64 and friends.
2745 [18:36:29] <r0b0> wonder why
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2748 [18:36:45] <jelly> because there's no need for it and same stuff is built twice
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2750 [18:37:32] <jelly> *was built twice
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2753 [18:38:05] <jelly> !multiarch
2754 [18:38:05] <dpkg> Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See replaced-url
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2757 [18:38:38] <jelly> sanmarcos: ^^ you might do that, except the other way, so dpkg --add-architecture amd64
2758 [18:39:11] <jelly> and then you'd have an interesting, but still supported, mess
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2761 [18:39:12] <sanmarcos> jelly: and replace every package?
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2763 [18:39:26] <jelly> sanmarcos: just the libreswan or whatnot stuff
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2765 [18:39:36] <r0b0> sanmarcos, it's not gonna let you replace all packages
2766 [18:39:42] <r0b0> i tried :)
2767 [18:39:51] <jelly> whatever bits of userspace interact with 64bit kernel in a bad way
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2774 [18:41:23] <jelly> sanmarcos: there is no supported way of replacing everything. There are only very hacky, very kludgy ways to achieve this and some people have documented their steps. I'm just suggesting it as an interim workaround.
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2777 [18:41:37] <sanmarcos> ok screw it, 32 bit forever!
2778 [18:41:50] <sanmarcos> there should be a way, macOS did it just fine
2779 [18:41:50] <r0b0> sanmarcos, there is replaced-url
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2781 [18:42:01] <r0b0> but talk about kudgy :)
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2791 [18:46:48] <sanmarcos> no way to do it during a dist-upgrade?
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2795 [18:47:55] <sanmarcos> what is (rc) in dpkg -l ?
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2797 [18:48:07] <greycat> read the headers instead of grepping them away
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2810 [18:51:31] <sanmarcos> greycat: ok dpkg? they arent very helpful, but I figure dit out
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2813 [18:52:00] <sanmarcos> greycat: there is a guide on how to read them!
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2815 [18:52:02] <greycat> if you just run "dpkg -l yourpackage" then you will get several lines of headers with ASCII art lines pointing to the first and second columns where the 'r' and 'c' are
2816 [18:52:10] <EnchanterTim> Hi, I need to include a forward slash in a sed replacement. I don't know how to escape a forward slaash in sed
2817 [18:52:13] <sanmarcos> yeah I didnt understand the ascii art greycat
2818 [18:52:17] <EnchanterTim> is that \/ ?
2819 [18:52:22] <sanmarcos> greycat: but this explained it replaced-url
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2821 [18:52:31] <greycat> I weep for the future of humanity.
2822 [18:52:32] <EnchanterTim> I escape forwardlsash with backslash?
2823 [18:52:53] <greycat> EnchanterTim: if it's an "s" command you should choose a different delimiter char besides /
2824 [18:53:02] <greycat> sed 's#/foo#/bar#g'
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2827 [18:53:35] <EnchanterTim> yes it is an s command
2828 [18:53:35] <sanmarcos> greycat: UX matters!
2829 [18:54:29] <EnchanterTim> I see
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2857 [19:05:42] <jelly> greycat: it took me like 5-10 years to figure out that dpkg -l header
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2866 [19:10:05] <Burps> Hello : still fighting with IPv6 in may LAN : When IPv6 is UP, most web request fail. When I tcpdump, I see the DNS request are made from my IPv4 address while my DNS server does listen on the v6 interface : why ?
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2869 [19:11:11] <Burps> and I see almost no Iv6 traffic in tcpdump :(
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2871 [19:11:32] <Burps> (only RAs)
2872 [19:11:52] <jelly> Burps: which dns server are you using?
2873 [19:11:57] <Burps> bind
2874 [19:12:01] <Dagger> worry about getting v6 working before you worry about getting DNS over v6 working
2875 [19:12:15] <Burps> well, ping6 to google is working
2876 [19:12:16] <Dagger> v4 DNS can look up AAAA records just fine
2877 [19:12:22] <jelly> Burps: and does it only listen on v6 or does it listen on both v4 and v6?
2878 [19:12:33] <Burps> bith v4 and v6, as netstat shows
2879 [19:12:36] <Burps> both
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2883 [19:13:19] <jelly> Burps: is there an issue with dns requests using ipv4, as long as they're getting answered?
2884 [19:13:33] <Burps> so OK, I get DNS from v4, why not : now, why do the web not work ?
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2886 [19:13:57] <jelly> do you, in fact, get dns answers?
2887 [19:13:58] <Burps> common mistakes ?
2888 [19:14:02] <Burps> Yes I do
2889 [19:14:06] <Burps> A and AAAA
2890 [19:14:22] <Dagger> well, if v6 ping works... firewall?
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2892 [19:14:24] <jelly> so it's not dns that is at fault for the connectivity issues.
2893 [19:14:49] <jelly> Burps: can you "ping6 security.debian.org"?
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2895 [19:15:11] <Burps> 64 bytes from mirror-conova-security.debian.org (2a02:16a8:dc41:100::233): icmp_seq=1 ttl=49 time=40.3 ms
2896 [19:15:21] <Burps> ok
2897 [19:15:38] <Burps> I have no proxy
2898 [19:15:50] <jelly> Burps: so you seem to have dns working, and seem to have ipv6 routing working. What fails to work?
2899 [19:15:54] <Burps> I'm tail-logging the iptables, and don't se anything
2900 [19:15:56] <Burps> see
2901 [19:16:48] <jelly> Burps: does "telnet -6 security.debian.org 80" connect?
2902 [19:17:08] <Burps> Connected to security.debian.org.
2903 [19:17:23] <jelly> so you also seem to have tcp working.
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2905 [19:18:20] <jelly> press control - ] and type q <enter> to exit telnet
2906 [19:18:30] <jelly> or let it die on its own
2907 [19:18:33] <Burps> good, your tests confort me : I'm not totally lost... I'll check again all my setup, I might have forgotten something,
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2909 [19:18:51] <Burps> maybe something I thought was a great idea 2-3 years ago...
2910 [19:18:56] <Burps> but not
2911 [19:18:58] <Burps> :)
2912 [19:19:10] <Dagger> what does `wget replaced-url
2913 [19:19:45] <Burps> Connected... then a long pause
2914 [19:19:53] <Burps> let me paste that
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2916 [19:20:45] <Burps> replaced-url
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2920 [19:22:57] <Dagger> at least it works up to that point (...which we already knew)
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2922 [19:23:16] <Dagger> stalled connections is often pMTUd related -- make sure you're not dropping any ICMPv6
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2924 [19:23:41] <Burps> I'll check my FW rules, must have been too far...
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2929 [19:24:38] <Burps> Thanks for your advice, need to go, I'll let you know if I find something
2930 [19:25:35] <jelly> I have to ask wget real nice to prefer ipv6 or else it uses whatever order it got from the resolver
2931 [19:25:40] <jelly> wget --prefer-family=ipv6 replaced-url
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2938 [19:27:27] <Dagger> it's supposed to use the order from the resolver library. but the resolver library is supposed to sort the v6 addresses first if you have v6 connectivity
2939 [19:27:35] <Dagger> although if you only have 6to4 then it'll put v4 first
2940 [19:28:06] <jelly> it does not, and I have a default gai.conf
2941 [19:28:11] <Dagger> also if you only have ULA, but presumably you're not mad enough to be using NAT on v6
2942 [19:28:21] <jelly> *cough*
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2945 [19:29:05] <jelly> no, no I've never heard of Cisco's NAT66 and even if I had I surely would not use it?
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2950 [19:29:45] <jelly> Dagger: it's technically not ULA, it's fc00::
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2953 [19:30:52] <Dagger> that's still ULA... but not allocated to you
2954 [19:31:07] <jelly> but that's my source ip, and resolver is resolving replaced-url
2955 [19:31:48] <Dagger> and of course it doesn't put the v6 first, because you can't reach the internet from ULA source IPs
2956 [19:32:09] <jelly> I have a bloody global route dammit
2957 [19:32:20] <Dagger> unless you're NATing somewhere, which you very much shouldn't be
2958 [19:32:44] <jelly> *whistle*
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2966 [19:36:44] <jelly> aight, setting up gai.conf to omit "#label fc00::/7 6 " worked around that. That's confusing.
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2970 [19:38:26] <Dagger> the better option would, of course, be to just not NAT
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2972 [19:38:47] <Dagger> if you aren't getting enough address space to do that... then your provider is not fit for purpose and needs replacing
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2978 [19:41:30] <jelly> Dagger: amusingly, this is my provider's office lan
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2998 [19:57:47] <kwargs> Hello
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3000 [19:58:06] <MacroZero> hello :)
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3004 [20:00:37] <coreyfarrell> can anyone tell me how to find out the latest version of autoconf in wheezy and jessie? I don't actually have debian, I might switch a project's configure.ac from autoconf 2.60 to 2.64 but want to consider the ability to bootstrap the configure script from debian.
3005 [20:00:45] <greycat> ,v autoconf
3006 [20:00:46] <judd> Package: autoconf on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.69-1; jessie: 2.69-8; jessie-backports: 2.69-10~bpo8+1; stretch: 2.69-10; buster: 2.69-11; sid: 2.69-11
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3009 [20:02:35] <kwargs> I'm trying to upgrade debian-security on a local repository, but I'm getting one error, debmirror try to download debian "sid", I have not indicated this in --dist, any idea?
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3011 [20:02:54] <coreyfarrell> greycat: oh great that's exactly what I needed, thanks!
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3020 [20:07:11] <MacroZero> i seams to have ran into permission problems, when trying to change em with gnome folder properties, it changes back to root.
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3027 [20:11:15] <MacroZero> how do i fix this?
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3034 [20:14:55] <kwargs> Hello? I have a problem when updating a repository, this update "sid", but this is not indicated in the execution, here I leave the command that I used and the output that generates, I hope you can help me :( replaced-url
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3036 [20:15:44] <kwargs> I attach*
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3058 [20:28:13] <elc79> Hi guys, my cd it's not mount by itself, it had to be mounted in the terminal, and apps that requires root permission don't launch
3059 [20:28:34] <elc79> any idea?
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3074 [20:33:10] <MacroZero> permissions while trying to change them as root to regular user changes back to root instantly. why and how can i fix this?
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3081 [20:35:20] <RoyK> MacroZero: please explain the problem. That sentence wasn't intelligable
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3084 [20:36:08] <elc79> Hi guys, my cd it's not mount by itself, it had to be mounted in the terminal, and apps that requires root permission don't launch, any idea?
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3087 [20:38:39] <yenyen> is it hard to downgrade the server?
3088 [20:38:43] <yenyen> kernel*
3089 [20:38:51] <GayTerrorist> Make a backup and reinstall
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3092 [20:39:31] <greycat> make a backup, and then install the kernel you want to boot, and then boot into it (by selecting it in GRUB)
3093 [20:39:36] <MacroZero> RoyK: When I as root go to the folder, takes properties, then permissions, i see that it is owned by root and when i then try to change this it changes back
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3095 [20:40:01] <greycat> MacroZero: what command are you running, and what is the result of that command?
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3097 [20:40:09] <r0b0> MacroZero, what filesystem is that?
3098 [20:40:27] <greycat> And also yes, what directory is it?
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3101 [20:41:00] <Somelauw> I'm using buster (with some sid packages) and trying to do a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" tries to remove chromium without replacing it.
3102 [20:41:29] <r0b0> Somelauw, then don't
3103 [20:41:42] <RoyK> GayTerrorist: not really - just remove the new kernel and reboot
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3105 [20:41:45] <greycat> also don't run a frankendebian
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3108 [20:42:20] <RoyK> MacroZero: how do you change this?
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3111 [20:43:30] <Somelauw> greycat: I don't want to. I accidentally installed SID about 6 months ago and I'm still waiting for buster to catch up, so I can get rid of frankendebian.
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3115 [20:45:21] <MacroZero> RoyK: In gnome permission folder.
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3118 [20:45:39] <MacroZero> folder permission*
3119 [20:45:43] <greycat> If there's no command, I'm done.
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3122 [20:46:41] <elc79> I have to mount the cd unit by command, how can i do to get it automounted?
3123 [20:46:50] <annadane> !debian-next
3124 [20:46:50] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
3125 [20:46:57] <RoyK> MacroZero: sorry - I don't do gui stuff
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3129 [20:49:48] <MacroZero> thats all alright RoyK, thanks anyway
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3131 [20:51:11] <walnut_burl> MacroZero: look at chown and chmod. If you try these and it still changes back you'll have something.
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3136 [20:53:08] <backtrack_> hi
3137 [20:53:18] <backtrack_> replaced-url
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3139 [20:53:29] <backtrack_> translate.py < input_file > output_file
3140 [20:53:48] <backtrack_> bash: translate.py: command not found
3141 [20:53:50] <backtrack_> why?
3142 [20:53:52] <backtrack_> what wrong?
3143 [20:53:54] <backtrack_> i have debian 9
3144 [20:53:58] <annadane> !enter
3145 [20:53:58] <dpkg> The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
3146 [20:54:01] <greycat> because it's not in a directory in your $PATH
3147 [20:54:17] <backtrack_> annadane, i'm sorry, this happen when i'm nervous.
3148 [20:54:19] <greycat> if you're trying to run a command that is in the current directory (.) you use ./translate.py to specify the directory
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3152 [20:56:06] <nix64bit> what does modprobe actually do?
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3154 [20:56:11] <MacroZero> walnut_burl: what should chmod be?
3155 [20:56:12] <greycat> man modprobe
3156 [20:56:43] <MacroZero> 0770?
3157 [20:57:05] <greycat> !permissions
3158 [20:57:05] <dpkg> For information on permissions, read «info coreutils 'File Permissions'», replaced-url
3159 [20:57:41] <walnut_burl> MacroZero: If its an executeable, yes.
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3161 [20:58:33] <MacroZero> walnut_burl: Its just files and folders which i would like to access in virtualbox, its a permission problem, i've been in #vbox
3162 [20:58:34] <walnut_burl> MacroZero: replaced-url
3163 [20:58:36] <greycat> Most directories and programs should be 755, and most non-program files should be 644. Unless you have some specific reason to use other bits.
3164 [20:59:10] <walnut_burl> Yep what greycat said
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3166 [20:59:36] * greycat tries to understand a universe in which a user is trying to use _virtualbox_ and cannot grok chmod without a GNOME GUI.
3167 [20:59:40] <nix64bit> so if i run modprobe --all wheredoes it look?
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3174 [21:01:39] <elim_garak> if im using gnome 3 and at the login page there is no other option to select but i want to login to a non root user
3175 [21:01:41] <elim_garak> what can I do?
3176 [21:01:44] <elim_garak> via gui
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3183 [21:03:55] <nix64bit> on a practical note if i am having issues with usb ports is it possible to use modprobe -c | grep usb to find modules that might be useful?
3184 [21:04:10] <greycat> some of them will have hci in the name
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3186 [21:04:52] <greycat> why do you think that knowing the name of the kernel modules involved is going to help you with your problem?
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3188 [21:05:25] <nix64bit> i am getting errors mounting my phone
3189 [21:05:26] <MacroZero> walnut_burl: 666 would make others as well read and write it, what if i only want to give root, regular user and virtualbox (a third user) the permissions?
3190 [21:05:59] <greycat> MacroZero: then you make a group, and you put regular and virtualbox into that group
3191 [21:06:14] <nix64bit> device descriptor read/all, error -71
3192 [21:06:20] <nix64bit> from dmesg
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3194 [21:07:42] <nix64bit> trying to be logical in finding the problem
3195 [21:07:56] <MacroZero> nice
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3197 [21:08:48] <MacroZero> (walnut_burl:) i tried to chmod and chown but it didn't solve the problem
3198 [21:09:17] <greycat> !exact
3199 [21:09:17] <dpkg> Please tell us exactly what you typed, and exactly what the error was. Please use a <pastebin> like replaced-url
3200 [21:09:22] <elim_garak> why wouldnt users be listed as a login option at gui login?
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3205 [21:10:18] <MacroZero> greycat... shared clipboards makes that hard..
3206 [21:10:40] <greycat> You do not live in the same universe I live in. I don't know how to help you.
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3209 [21:11:18] <greycat> In the unix universe where I live, there's a terminal (or a dozen terminals), and you type commands in them, and you can paste freely back and forth among them.
3210 [21:11:27] <MacroZero> thats all alright. sorry i couldn't make you help me
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3212 [21:11:53] <MacroZero> yeah, nice universe
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3214 [21:12:14] <MacroZero> wait
3215 [21:12:44] <metastable> elim_garak: That's a configurable, I believe. What's the UID of the user you want to log in as?
3216 [21:12:48] <MacroZero> first i typed chmod 666 -R folder, then chown user:user folder
3217 [21:13:14] <greycat> the options (-R) should be before the non-option arguments (666 directory), but GNU may let you get away with that kind of sloppiness
3218 [21:13:17] <elim_garak> its a non root user metastable
3219 [21:13:27] <elim_garak> metastable, are you talking about the settings in /etc/gdm ... conf
3220 [21:13:28] <metastable> elim_garak: That's not what I asked you. What is the numeric UID?
3221 [21:13:52] <greycat> now your REAL problem is that you put permissions 666 on a directory, or potentially multiple directories. This is BAD.
3222 [21:14:05] <greycat> A directory with no +x bits can't be entered or traversed at all.
3223 [21:14:05] <MacroZero> I'm giving up, you must be half god in your universe greycat, im not following and its gonna take long time understanding such a advance language at your level.
3224 [21:14:31] <greycat> chmod 755 thedirectory
3225 [21:14:48] <greycat> find thedirectory -type d -exec chmod 755 {} +
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3227 [21:15:03] <greycat> you may have to repeat that a few times to undo all the damage, I dunno
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3229 [21:15:56] <MacroZero> as said hehe, giving up, gonna try another way, tho you might be right at me not succeeding in that path, thanks.
3230 [21:16:12] <greycat> chmod 755 thedirectory; find thedirectory -type d -exec chmod 755 {} +
3231 [21:16:38] <metastable> MacroZero: Slow down and read what greycat is telling you.
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3234 [21:18:19] <MacroZero> i think it might be ntfs related guys.
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3236 [21:18:31] <greycat> fuck, SERIOUSLY
3237 [21:18:36] <MacroZero> gonna try this, sorry greycat, no disrespect.. replaced-url
3238 [21:18:38] <greycat> *plonk*
3239 [21:18:40] * brw is giggling.
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3241 [21:19:12] <greycat> "I'm trying to change unix permissions on an NTFS file system and it won't work." "Well, duh."
3242 [21:19:13] <metastable> MacroZero: Did you mention that NTFS was involved previously?
3243 [21:19:22] <MacroZero> oh..
3244 [21:19:41] <greycat> He was asked what kind of file system it was, and never answered.
3245 [21:19:50] <MacroZero> i forgot that it was ntfs format, please don't tutor me
3246 [21:19:57] <greycat> He was was asked for the name of the directory, and never answered.
3247 [21:20:06] <greycat> He continuously called the directory "folder".
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3249 [21:20:36] <MacroZero> your good at making me feel sorry, i tell you for sure, sorry i wasted some time here, nice to talk to you tho
3250 [21:20:52] <MacroZero> you (guys)
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3252 [21:21:09] <metastable> Oh, geez, you expect us to help you without answering basic questions or giving us all the information, and you wonder why we're a little pissy.
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3255 [21:21:25] <MacroZero> enough
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3265 [21:24:42] <elim_garak> when attempting to change printer settings it is asking for me to login as root, where is the cups conf file to change this ( i assume this is what i need to do )
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3267 [21:25:48] <greycat> I don't do much with printers, but if you're using CUPS you can usually just web-browser to replaced-url
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3269 [21:26:17] <greycat> the web interface has been adequate for my limited printer-config needs
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3274 [21:28:51] <elim_garak> greycat, will try. trying to add a printer and i need to get around the root login stuff
3275 [21:29:02] <elim_garak> i assume its in cups conf file but i cant find it
3276 [21:29:06] <elim_garak> looks like its not used anymore i guess
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3284 [21:32:11] <kwargs> Someone who can help me?
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3287 [21:34:10] <kwargs> I have a problem when updating a local mirror, this update "sid", but this is not indicated in the command (--dist option)
3288 [21:34:25] <nkuttler> kwargs: please use paste.debian.net
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3294 [21:34:58] <yenyen> got any channels to discuss about hardware and video related stuff?
3295 [21:35:15] <nkuttler> ##hardware ? also #freenode for questions about the network
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3305 [21:36:23] <MacroZero> I hope im still welcome
3306 [21:36:59] <MacroZero> filesystem ntfs, can't change permissions, they change back to root. anyone familiar with this problem?
3307 [21:37:03] <kwargs> nkuttler: one second
3308 [21:37:34] <nkuttler> MacroZero: ntfs doesn't have unix-style permissions
3309 [21:37:50] <nkuttler> MacroZero: you can set global perms at mount time
3310 [21:38:00] <MacroZero> it has had regular user as owner before
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3312 [21:38:15] <yenyen> what does mv ~ /dev/null do?
3313 [21:38:24] <nkuttler> yenyen: nothing good
3314 [21:38:33] <nkuttler> MacroZero: try man mount.ntfs i guess
3315 [21:38:37] <nkuttler> MacroZero: or, what are you trying to do?
3316 [21:38:49] <MacroZero> i am trying to change owner from root to user
3317 [21:38:55] <nkuttler> MacroZero: why?
3318 [21:39:16] <nkuttler> !tell MacroZero about ntfsrw
3319 [21:39:24] <yenyen> the user GayTerrosist told me in PM to run this command to make a backup
3320 [21:39:39] <MacroZero> i have a hope that if it is user then ican change permissions for others, groups and users.... so i can see the files in debian virtualbox guest
3321 [21:39:41] <nkuttler> yenyen: troll, that's harmful
3322 [21:39:44] <metastable> yenyen: It deletes your entire home directory.
3323 [21:39:52] <yenyen> :/
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3326 [21:40:09] <bzed> MacroZero: use ntfs-3g and use the uid/gid options while mounting. see man mount.ntfs-3
3327 [21:40:17] <bzed> mount.ntfs-3g
3328 [21:40:17] <MacroZero> /dev/null is a blackhole
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3331 [21:40:37] <MacroZero> ntfs-3g is installed
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3336 [21:41:07] <petn-randall> yenyen: No 1 advice for the internet: Don't trust what strangers say.
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3339 [21:41:26] <MacroZero> bzed, im sorry i can't concentrate on reading man's
3340 [21:41:27] <bzed> yenyen, nkuttler: you can't move directories into /dev/null.
3341 [21:41:36] <bzed> MacroZero: then sleep and do it tomorrow.
3342 [21:41:40] <kwargs> this is the output and the command that I used: replaced-url
3343 [21:41:40] <MacroZero> focus runs away
3344 [21:41:53] <MacroZero> i never could (sad smiley)
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3349 [21:42:33] <ryouma> except what petn-randall says
3350 [21:42:36] <bzed> MacroZero: mount.ntfs-3g --help has the short version
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3352 [21:42:47] <MacroZero> thanks
3353 [21:42:51] <bzed> metastable: and no, it won't delete anything
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3355 [21:43:03] <nkuttler> bzed: not with that attitude
3356 [21:43:06] <MacroZero> command not found lel
3357 [21:43:22] <kwargs> Some parts are in Spanish
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3359 [21:43:44] <nkuttler> !tell kwargs about localized errors
3360 [21:44:12] <bzed> nkuttler: sorry for correcting your missing knowledge.
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3362 [21:44:43] <nkuttler> bzed: apparently you can't read
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3365 [21:45:02] <nkuttler> kwargs: what's the problem? the missing release files?
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3367 [21:45:16] <MacroZero> bzed: bash: mount.ntfs-3g: command not found
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3369 [21:45:24] <bzed> MacroZero: install it?
3370 [21:45:29] <kwargs> Those parts in Spanish refer to gpg, information about the signatures, I don't think that's that ..
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3372 [21:45:58] <MacroZero> E: Unable to locate package mount.ntfs-3g
3373 [21:46:04] <MacroZero> are you mistaken?
3374 [21:46:08] <bzed> nkuttler: oh, I can read. You said its harmful. its not, mv won't do what you think it does.
3375 [21:46:17] <nkuttler> bzed: no, i did not say that
3376 [21:46:27] <kale> hi, i am doing a reinstall, my cpu is an atom 1.6ghz. currently that gives me 30MiB/s when reading from a luks encrypted volume. is there any way i can speed this up?
3377 [21:46:37] <nkuttler> oh wait, i said it later
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3380 [21:46:51] <nkuttler> oh well, if you're going to nitpick, wasting time is harmful
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3382 [21:47:45] <MacroZero> bzed: are you mistaken? install mount.ntfs-3g ??
3383 [21:48:13] <kwargs> nkuttler: on debmirror, in the option, i set --dist=*any distribution except sid*, but the output say: "Dists: sid,wheezy/updates,jessie/updates,stretch/updates"
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3386 [21:49:23] <kwargs> Then, try to download.. report that the sid Release is missing and could not be downloaded, but I did not indicate it?
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3394 [21:53:57] <kwargs> I tried to update debmirror, I did it, I get the same error... I don't know what happens
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3417 [22:05:34] <yenyen> do you need any help tsukuyomi?
3418 [22:06:03] <jelly> MacroZero: the package name is just ntfs-3g, not mount.ntfs-3g; that'd be one of the commands contained within
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3429 [22:07:40] <jelly> bzed: best be precise if offering help in here; users' levels of experience vary wildly
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3433 [22:09:01] <bzed> jelly: I never said the package is called like that.
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3445 [22:11:27] <jelly> bzed: you never pointed the user otherwise either, and going from "install it" to "install ntfs-3g" isn't that far
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3493 [22:15:20] <gemin> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: Dr-Shadow Junaos tracphil Willis barteks2x shadoxx j3x thecoffemaker cbmuser alexbligh1 atomi sayo- skott rotaticus hue petemc saboru hex2a Colti altendky tsukuyomi duracrisis SwK sine0 Letze_ xet7 _tremo orb Mysterytrain kri nprs debchange tpanarch1st SmearedBeard [red]claw netrace vamiry dmos Andocromn benaiah s0lar1s Arroyo1010 Fjorgynn woshty gusnan lexruee HauM1 silverhom telcoguy MyIgel
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3495 [22:15:20] <mauriz> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: tonythomas bureado dTal flyingkiwi pierrot shoogz conta SirCmpwn luuh AFNobody lru shastry shahri suffer Merixer burg ashka phaseNi beuker damiano adrenaline boser samouy annadane alchemistswl Jacob8433 martinus__ JasonO mr__tea Tr4sK stmiller dwar gmh banging nickdastain chownsauce Sir_Designer__ kmd _indzin cendo treaki homegrown tarzeau karakedi magenbrot Willis kbelyea Brian- d-k remote
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3497 [22:15:20] <rskqvsp> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: navlys Jguy internat int0x27h splinux CyberJacob cendo mossman phaseNi Snakes hramrach evilniko Trellmor dusares_ k4tfish coruja Ticho_ Vorpal jrtc27 greenbagels cvr MuffinMedic CompWizrd aliasnumber13 ioudas^working _KaszpiR_ kion Aristar tekk stmiller jhebden LambdaComplex coolchris ephemer0l nymony jonasbits armin kmd MrGeneral galadri nathanhi spacewor nix-7 torch2319 SkIzZaTo {41444d49
3498 [22:15:20] <rskqvsp> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: AndrewMC hicks_ StephenS Schmiel alxd evilman_work simp Sleepy63 chachasmooth konimex dirac1 JZA Eryn_1983_FL qoreQyaS serban sphalerite monicks DarkDevil l9 mcintosh Dr-Shadow MobileMatt kwmiebach Bercik dave0x6d jonasbits realJB1 jelly daniel2 noodle Toris Mysterytrain APexil OS-30663 x10 healer woky mutante Ishaq nagetier Jguy xingu zerocool noahfx jmyrv jhill or4n nO0b vista plicease
3499 [22:15:21] <mauriz> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: adellam sayo- ozzloy jager subpath chaology phogg enki Esya Hunterkll vvz jlacroix jonathaN eb0t Merixer alchemistswl timeless n4cht lukasdboer Puckel_ pfoo installibre thunderrd Immanuel s0ph0s styles homegrown bipolar silvi rlange diniwed [red]claw luckman212 jesopo sidmo SkIzZaTo Red_M Warrigal frien backtrack_ amd_0x51 przemoc k4tfish Schmiel nyaomi zululee aerbax_ therock247uk blackest
3500 [22:15:21] <mauriz> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: vincent_c apolloj remote TheNerdisRight matthiaskrgr lmcloughlin brizz somepoortech alkyl Enrico_Menotti rachelfish alexises aindilis mindstorm zwamkat johnnyfive debhelper alprazolam Janhouse semeion f3bruary pipeep sloucher dTal zyley nikolah AndrewMC aib Gm4n freakyy pokeguylow LaunchDirector eleusis pugspaw Gabemo tyranny12 percY- musca roguelazer chiluk vvande pcdummy solarnetone cthul
3501 [22:15:21] <mauriz> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: davidebeatrici annadane d1b creat urzds esaym153 pav Lazuruz dubwoc yepla bipolar mindstorm edvb CapsAdmin jhebden mi Pseudo evilniko TuxShells smlb vOYtEC p0g0 Arkaniad DLange levifig nux tec__ stmiller digdilem vvande zack6849 Acrisor treegor kline blazeme8 Ralin3 oberste1n b0l3x tccki pchamtaczke vutral jsleeio_ debchange tonythomas strass rooty_ K1rk UUID00 Snewp kolla
3502 [22:15:21] <mauriz> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: ws2k3 PhilSliderS hessu Shadowcrit C rednul benf gehaxelt satbyy jordanm petan annadane diabel_ Spitfire fstd EnergyCoffee r00tobo sekjun9878 sandroandrade Delta-One satanist phogg ChmEarl freakyy phenomcd phenom n4cht hasdf NightKhaos cooldude mdroid scoopex Cyph3r jareth_ lord_helmet michael_mbp basicmiracle hobbyquaker vOYtEC Immanuel InFerNo_ Roedy steelcowboy Pugabyte Piggy Savemech na
3503 [22:15:21] <ramml> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: guardian gatekee dym preaction Tempesta Mahe eir dsnow_ alreece45 SuperSeriousCat brizz CrypticSquared sangy ijmad karakedi chrissl Nnavd Sina richardjohn pyllyukko wizzy_ tonyoy ozzloy konimex polaris Poster boubou gluon eMaks kward Comnenus iodev dak chachasmooth Fastolph dudz Aix_ television dxrt Orbstheorem LeandroLuiz meminemy_ like2k1 netzach ryouma KNERD towo^work ketralnis dexta karlam
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3506 [22:15:21] <ramml> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: jandrusk Tempesta Savemech mr__tea Delta-One danwellby somnambler blind latez sdx23 Phibonacci_ wcfields ghostyy pcdummy funnel Fusl tsurko WizardGed spacework juhop meminemy_ diytto waz0wski Aix_ Zerant ikonia RebelCoder BbT0n HelloShitty TsukiRa rkta jssjr Whiskey guardian sc_ JC_SoCal mrm Noskcaj lexruee Commander1024 t3eblinder1 Riviera conta nutron tw Jacob8433 optraz judd armin sptnx
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3508 [22:15:22] <ramml> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: Jim[m] swordsmanz XSoul brolin_empey xand mcintosh clickjack JZA SupaYoshi dmarr Nevolution2 Saar GhostInTheShell ffernand Ximensi0ns nopf `slikts ectos dijenerate_ Janhouse Adbray telcoguy cbdev TsukiRa leibniz therock247uk Comnenus barteks2x amospalla fast yuastnav daniel2 richardjohn Incepti0n dmkeast pmn Mazhive tsurko firti Anarchic [sr] roniez nO0b rkta sef Noskcaj grinsekatze leachim6 c
3509 [22:15:22] <ramml> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: SporkWitch _tremo Pichet_ dreamon scream_ Piper-Off stu_meat dsc_ nhandler haircode max-m RoyK_Heime r3 APexil mnuhmnuh sunkan Cabanossi mxh- nymony canvon peterrooney vreg diytto Alam_Squeeze Shadowcrit Scuttle Groenleer Aix_ bolt Sue platicus2 mibo Sina quasisane ribasushi jhill XeonSquared lsyoyom ibex xar- Mysterytrain TReK fiQmob Carno FabTG_ lukasdboer LeandroLuiz mavhq mirsal ArchDuke
3510 [22:15:22] <ramml> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: tardyp suffer navlys A|TARIS slack_ MrFixIt Bryanstein satbyy crdil ineiros Sleepy63 OtakuSenpai berndj boubou creat Kobaz duoi ariador noodle DandyPandy BroTroxer frien peterrooney metastable nicdev mibo sef Pelle` PhonicUK Blanco ckuehl meminemy_ CapsAdmin Texou fstd banging ectos blacksyke bryceml adds68 ezra-s shastry clopez Poster alexbligh1 krups LV-426 turfrex jandrusk darkstalker
3511 [22:15:22] <ramml> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: adac fleaz namix xcm nodauf Muadabi Bryanstein therock247uk HeXiLeD codingquark mastensg rakor p0rt serban pipeep vonsyd0w_ heartbleed SporkWitch peta konimex Janhouse benf bitgeek NoGhoul jmnk BiGBOi elios teej Walex TMan459 hawken Downer olegfusion verboese ivan miklcct koeppea duckydan cristian_c _indzin patsToms graytron tracphil MrGeneral boser acperkins dsnow_ Smuckerz JStoker rdz
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3513 [22:15:23] <glnxwbm> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: smlb nadley qzio__ benaiah ThoMe raSter^ grew riddle kInOzAwA rasb heurist xsdg Idl elik foriin swordfischer lift c0ded cliluw dysfigured sunkan Baudelaire styks1987 vegenaise probono Arkaniad ShockingIsntIt fyrril ScottE SuperSeriousCat daemonkeeper SolarAquarion f3bruary nomad_dw Zerant mz` aaro Snakes Sue MrGeneral vaidy sputnik Bryanstein lukasdboer kevy0 SwedeMike grim4593 petan sidewal
3514 [22:15:23] <glnxwbm> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: twisted` bertbob le_pig afx237 slax0r subpath hipodilski LeandroLuiz armin r00ter boris_t kirb cherti kopper SPF Bercik Ard1t brouette conta Tempesta [sr] sulit Mrloafbot_ cthuluh frien MeanEYE_ MrHyde evilniko alkyl kculpis Skaag baum phinxy Posterdati bluszcz admiral0 altendky nrs_ gr4yscale Louis d1b peterrooney Cipher45 rafalcpp Jguy Spydar007 tekk Nekojimi db` hele
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3516 [22:15:23] <glnxwbm> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: StathisA NickyP slax0r ioudas^working larjona Lxrowe OS-30663 Tom-_ Kulrak CME imMute MikeDebian GGMethos evilnewbie djz88 coolchris pcdummy hasdf Alina-malina NaPs wcfields Fusl sIRwa2 atomi hicks_ nickenchuggets Firztspawn ijmad cryptodan_mobile lionheartActual chud scoobertron kopper MrDetonia TonyL phorce1 hexhaxtron planetmaker quenode xcin smidlers rotaticus peterrooney Bercik bb36e ne
3517 [22:15:23] <glnxwbm> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: ghormoon Comnenus Pythonic_vi benj__ tensorpudding catsup Ein sn0wmonster dustinm` Pseudo television phar6oor Alam_Squeeze hid3 Vorpal Spiffy jrabe grinsekatze CME polaris arha sphalerite zer0x kchr chownsauce x-fak keith4 WoollySocks enoch85 Tulah volter Haxxa Cork rysiek|pl Pichet_ olivetree_ snkcld donut_ mort d3lphi Renari klaas mgdelacroix Ximensi0ns InFerNo_ m dave0x6d platicus2 s0ph0s
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3519 [22:15:23] <glnxwbm> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: bodeezl staircrusher CompWizrd anthony25 internat koollman eldebrim1 tobiw exezin noobineer moufl firti lukky513 d1b pvoigt evotopid shingouz jim Kel lparmentier[m] miklcct SerkanDevel[m] gatekeep whiskey9_ phar6oor wtalleghany Pseudocrat p0rt HotSwap abracadaniel NightKhaos Arkaniad CowboyNeal qman__ amcorreia scyte sn0wmonster ghoti jmsx Galihom bumbar blueness mdroid installibre gzcwnk fy
3520 [22:15:23] <glnxwbm> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: pav b0b Ssquidly thecliguy Peterzen ThoMe smlx linuxdaemon chalcedony kini nurupo {sd} ericnoan Nazara apt awhitlock8 afx237 Zerant Snakes sandman13 tadz freakyy danwellby rrva sulvone conspacer Chinesium phenom ws2k3 orbiter toresbe nikolah Cipher45 pvn WizardGed civillian hikiko samtunez gftg XDS2010|AFK esaym153 zapperoo kyan enkrypt Arkaniad Nightmare tablebanger Schmantinski cef lstanle
3521 [22:15:23] <glnxwbm> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: spritian sphalerite DK2 SWAT stefanc_diff mrtnt sc_ LeandroLuiz qtch loeken romana Xyle Texou gareth__ JobewanKenobi keith4 crayon tec__ phorce1_1ome Carno adelyne w0bni lstanley tiin57 Hobby_boy ws2k3 Gm4n jmnk xsdg Muadabi guardian MeltedLux bolt mauriz sag3 prasket crdil soulz frankie ohith s7r poopnfrsh SaltySolomon raidghost qqx zmachine apollo13 GGMethos tugrik fred``
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3525 [22:15:31] <Guest38070> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: burg tolecnal Posterdati NoxiousPluK turfrex Artox `slikts TeslasMHD jlacroix XSoul stmiller swaechter vreg icxcnika codingquark GNU\colossus Sir_Designer__ cthuluh mgdelacroix systo bitgeek Hydroxide UUID00 sptnx Quick_Wango SerajewelKS rdococ nix-7 nathanhi CrazyEddy ryan-c stackofcats mibo _tremo ^v Bercik etp SirLagz bipolar hawken Cabanossi b0l3x Colti nagetier vectr0n|cloud Phibonacc
3526 [22:15:31] <Guest38070> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: roguelazer systo Nomads staircrusher james41382 mundus precise|otter hns csh-harmful klaas gareth__ hipodilski xcin Aix_ meti altendky b0l3x Bercik Zerant pugspaw tiin57 urzds toine42 twisted` jimi1 tsurko drot kInOzAwA Arianna rockstar[N] kri stefanc_diff internot lift craysiii HelloShitty RT_FM r3 ramml admiral0 SuperSeriousCat gby TmvC jgornick daishan tsia sandeepkr CHRiSNEW totonika l
3527 [22:15:31] <frien> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: jonasbits ffernand strass Baudelaire verow_ annadane Andocromn Nefertiti Riku Vorpal kInOzAwA ggherdov Infra_3600 MrDetonia wesclemens donut_ Jim[m] fnmueller jgornick AlexZ_ towo` msantana Speed2u dudz KNERD benjen dreamon Ellied DLange lmcloughlin amospalla dmkeast mnuhmnuh kline tsukuyomi hagabaka luz1 ghostel _0bitcount Igel_ cherti rakor somnambler corretico_ pfoo themill samtunez HauM1
3528 [22:15:31] <frien> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: Attoy Saar eleusis sekjun9878 Graypup_ grinsekatze devurandom jackNemrod gr4yscale benaiah hue DeadTOm Spiffy wingman2 qzio__ lavenders RT_FM r3m Namarrgon x42 Mars75 metallic ohithere johanbr_ JC_SoCal Tristan-Speccy dave4925 gonyere Nazara kline Bercik przemoc Zardoz n0p_ lru CtrlC tccki HeXiLeD poopnfrsh Skywave jonathaN sussudio kh4| brizz volodim Ellied MoDaX ggherdov fred`` spanglesont
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3530 [22:15:32] <frien> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: rymax99 nikolah hayer cristian_c jmsx sir EnergyCoffee Tybor ghostel spacebison TonyL bigzombie tapout Zorroness_ simon_q _MMx Mmike ThoMe aliasnumber13 M3mphiZ krytarik gluon Texou lazouz qqx sbeyer Eryn_1983_FL brouette Puckel_ whiskey9_ zmachine Ralin3 magyar coruja Vorsplummi_ Mars75 vuser makz Chinesium meLon canvon moetunes Asoka alxd gehaxelt toorop Canucktux [Echelon] black Arieh
3531 [22:15:32] <frien> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: samtunez hesperaux MikeDebian Relicka poopnfrsh EnchanterTim Noskcaj Spoopyphile ArchDuke Kulrak HauM1 ThomasJ|d Orbstheorem zarzar therock247uk Pichet_ brouette systo WernerVonCroy ChanServ shtirlic eMaks EnergyCoffee Schmantinski mrm afx237 spanglesontoast codingquark bb36e kyan lifeofguenter Hydroxide bier karakedi juhop hexhaxtron pav Kobaz GJdan noahfx j3x lobata tabakhase profall Snake
3532 [22:15:33] <frien> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: sir Guest18753 berndj sloucher sekjun9878 israfel jrtc27 basken nauticalnexus Jamboy Dev0n saboru Obi-Wan jmcnaught tvm gvvg_ drot JonathanD anthony25 Muadabi CompWizrd kj4 j3x ScottE K1rk dTal roguelazer ausbeck _systemd_is_evil yepla adc Gabemo Hobbyboy x42 spooky kalebo bitgeek Cip jhebden churnd gusnan phogg miklcct M3mphiZ beaky danwellby yuastnav opal latez aaro
3533 [22:15:33] <frien> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: PhilSliderS kalebo bb36e Cyclohexane koollman nprs kolla prasket p_quarles datasmurf_ simonlnu rdococ tobiasBora bove fred`` Anarchic chownsauce ghostel dmarr wingman2 TeslasMHD n-st k_sze[work] mz` vuser modlin jor adac Highlander Nothing4You brolin_empey jh001 Jim[m] nopf nezZario rdz ikevin swordsmanz spanglesontoast evotopid ageis moozer daemonkeeper marcoslater bitgeek RyanKnack rkta Ar
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3535 [22:15:36] <ptysi> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: moufl Ticho_ Gm4n TheNerdisRight bradjones madmattco nauticalnexus Se-bash thnee datasmurf_ flokuehn Cabanossi bumbar Firztspawn Cyclohexane bertbob t0ne nac Fusl Mmike Incepti0n toresbe blackwell ariador mutante zymurgy tapout Asoka r00tobo torch2319 Sir_Designer sIRwa2 x10 mvaenskae healer heinrich5991 sputnik jmnk bipul frlttrwrd SmearedBeard Namikaze cryptodan_mobile pokeguylow CodingWi
3536 [22:15:36] <ptysi> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: tpanarch1st Riviera jhebden Posterdati Dagger splinux thurin scoopex SM0TVI Anne thnee sputnik Spec ee2455 cvr SaltySolomon cujotus simonlnu Tybor frankie juhop dohfish Almtesh skagerak ryan-c jackNemrod lan_stuff Guest34 JZA annadane greenbagels ChanServ Fusl chachasmooth Zorroness_ M3mphiZ csh-harmful Eryn_1983_FL XeonSquared lroe tracphil gr4yscale unixbassen Delf Velgor timeless martinu
3537 [22:15:36] <ptysi> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: Alam_Squeeze realJB1 tablebanger blue MonsterKiller scc disposable KnoP Python1320 debhelper simbalion peteski toruvinn graytron kuchi HelloShitty tsia vegenaise ijmad ikevin alreece45 satbyy guios nutron abracadaniel verboese moozer azizLIGHT JyZyXEL solarnetone ageis Almtesh pawalls swaechter staircrusher Carno `ryban hramrach Fusl Arieh r00t musalbas keith4 eldritch bardkorren nikolah hi
3538 [22:15:36] <ptysi> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: celyr qqx coderphive pyllyukko cheapie c0ded eb0t totonika hasdf frazr CHRiSNEW barteks2x GNU\colossus dijenerate_ Archrover cmichel riddle yen0p tadz Carno sandeepkr blackwell xingu silvi Randy olivetree_ tapout jonvonb Arrowmaster SwedeMike glebihan_ meminemy_ moss civillian adi clickjack Walex BotaniCar _aeris_ CapsAdmin ultralow sobkas SirLagz peterbecich adc systo hawken alexbligh1 heu
3539 [22:15:36] <ptysi> ANOTHER NIGGER MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK. TRUMP 2020 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP: ArchDuke wesclemens MyIgel iNs ThomasJ mundus hassoon rypervenche eleusis nix-7 elysium mcint Gm4n gluon Vector3 timeless Lazuruz disposable Churr0z dreamon rkta sander85 CyberJacob wcfields SodaPhish afx237 Riviera Gece_peri makz p0g Delta-One coderphive Delf Olipro CHRiSNEW bryceml AJ_Z0 alexbligh1 james41382 egos d3lphi bfit firti marienz Ssquidly wybczu hiroki cyberzeus peteski benf
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3541 [22:15:42] <Alina-malina> wow
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3543 [22:15:45] <Lxrowe> .
3544 [22:15:46] <sandroandrade> :O
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3553 [22:15:50] <enoch85> eeh
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3556 [22:16:01] <pugspaw> mda
3557 [22:16:02] <Riviera> imagine they'd indeed use a pastebin now 8)
3558 [22:16:02] <nauticalnexus> wow
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3560 [22:16:05] <Fjorgynn> shut up
3561 [22:16:31] <JyZyXEL> that is some Quality nonsense! *thumbsup*
3562 [22:16:50] <LaunchDirector> would be good if at least we could cry on eachothers shoulder about it
3563 [22:16:58] <jelly> let's not comment on spam in here and further the noise. -> #debian-offtopic
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3655 [22:37:25] <GroovyNoodle> gör så
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3673 [22:43:21] <annadane> !swedish
3674 [22:43:21] <dpkg> Svensktalande debian-användare hittar du i #debian.se på FreeNode (irc.freenode.net), SE is also the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code for Sweden, it was included in the standard 1974.
3675 [22:43:24] <annadane> GroovyNoodle, ^
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3710 [22:58:00] <awal1> dpkg -S wmagnify wmaker: /usr/bin/wmagnify wmaker: /usr/share/man/man1/wmagnify.1.gz
3711 [22:58:00] <dpkg> You Fool! wmagnify wmaker: /usr/bin/wmagnify wmaker: /usr/share/man/man1/wmagnify.1.gz is installed!
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3713 [22:58:27] <awal1> how can i get wmagnify without wmaker?
3714 [22:58:49] <abrotman> what does it do? look for another app that does similar
3715 [22:59:14] <awal1> there isn't an equivalent
3716 [22:59:28] <awal1> screen magnifier, follows mouse
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3724 [23:02:36] <awal1> "dpkg -S wmagnify ---> wmaker: /usr/bin/wmagnify" ok, but why no result if I do aptitude/apt/apt-cache search wmagnify if there is /usr/bin/wmagnify ?
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3728 [23:03:08] <Tom-_> apt-cache search doesn't search file lists, just descriptions package summaries
3729 [23:03:23] <Tom-_> try downloading Contents-amd64.gz to get a list of files and which package they belong to
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3732 [23:04:01] <awal1> Tom-_, so same for show?
3733 [23:04:22] <Tom-_> yeah
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3737 [23:05:04] <evilbug> who's talking smack about me? let's go! hold my earrings!
3738 [23:05:08] <awal1> Tom-_, Ok, I get it; thanks
3739 [23:05:49] <awal1> wmagnify is a f***g good piece of software :P
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3741 [23:06:26] <evilbug> is it dope af though?
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3775 [23:19:06] <Krennic> /b 21
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3778 [23:19:42] <annadane> what is the command again for "why is <package> not in <release>"?
3779 [23:19:45] <annadane> for the bots
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3781 [23:20:21] <petemc> you have it
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3783 [23:21:01] <annadane> i keep getting "'is' isn't a package in stretch"
3784 [23:21:17] <annadane> !why is ldc not in stretch
3785 [23:21:18] <dpkg> annadane: what are you talking about?
3786 [23:21:24] <annadane> judd: why is ldc not in stretch
3787 [23:21:25] <judd> No package named 'is' was found in stretch/amd64.
3788 [23:22:03] <awal1> judd: why ldc not in stretch
3789 [23:22:04] <judd> No package named 'ldc' was found in stretch/amd64.
3790 [23:22:14] <annadane> oh, wait
3791 [23:22:22] <annadane> judd: why is ldc not in stable
3792 [23:22:23] <judd> No package named 'is' was found in stretch/amd64.
3793 [23:22:27] <annadane> sigh
3794 [23:23:01] <awal1> you can play in private with bots: /msg botname
3795 [23:23:04] <awal1> :P
3796 [23:23:19] <annadane> yeah, i know. just trying to demonstrate why the thing that should work isn't working
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3803 [23:24:52] <awal1> judd is asleep (not responding privates)
3804 [23:25:22] <awal1> you can check why via PTS
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3863 [23:58:25] <phogg> so much spam lately
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