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0 [00:00:07] <Megaf> maxzor, besides, install ntfs-3g and try mount again
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2 [00:00:31] <maxzor> ah thanks it tells me fs type is HPFS/NTFS.exFAT
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5 [00:01:33] <Megaf> maxzor, apt install ntfs-3g exfat-utils
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7 [00:01:43] <Megaf> maxzor, mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
8 [00:01:48] <Megaf> should work
9 [00:02:07] <Megaf> If you didn't destroy the partition trying to fix something that wasn't broken
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12 [00:03:17] <valerius> HPFS, unforunately, is removed from the default kernel, so you need to recompile kernel for adding it
13 [00:03:34] <Megaf> It's not hpfs...
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18 [00:04:19] <Megaf> HPFS is dead, it transformed into NTFS 20+ years ago
19 [00:04:33] <maxzor> stretch already had ntfs-3g and exfat-utils, I tried again mount vanilla and mount -t ntfs without success
20 [00:05:39] <maxzor> I havent used the hdd for 1+year so the broken fat boot is a possibility i guess
21 [00:05:42] <Megaf> can windows itself read it?
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23 [00:06:06] <valerius> Megaf really? I still use it for OS/2 boot partition. Though, it is limited in size to 64 GB (But there is JFS for bigger partitions. But for a bootable partition it is ok. And it is safer to use it for the boot partition)
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26 [00:06:39] <Megaf> valerius, lol, OS/2 is 20+ years old
27 [00:06:44] <Megaf> and HPFS was OS/2 FS
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29 [00:06:56] <maxzor> Well thats were it gets hard :) Only my desktop with only stretch installed can read this 3" drive... I miss the external sata power to lauch it on my windows laptop... laptop
30 [00:07:02] <Megaf> maxzor, there is ntfsfix, you might want to try it
31 [00:07:02] <valerius> Megaf UNIX is even older, and what?
32 [00:07:11] <maxzor> ty
33 [00:07:15] <Megaf> valerius, you could use JFS :)
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35 [00:07:34] <Megaf> I have been using JFS for / on my Debian systems for several years now
36 [00:07:42] <Megaf> fantastic FS
37 [00:07:48] <valerius> Megaf I use both HPFS and JFS
38 [00:08:08] <Megaf> I wonder if Debian and OS/2 can live in the same partition with JFS
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40 [00:08:26] <Megaf> That'd be nice, they sharing the home/user folder
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44 [00:09:43] <valerius> Megaf they can. You only need to format it with -O option (case-insensitivity). I used Debian Lenny this way, but newer Debians tend to use files with the same name, but other register, so it is problematic
45 [00:09:46] <maxzor> ntfsfix : "volume is corrupt. you should run chkdsk" Cannot it be exfat?
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47 [00:10:07] <valerius> they can -> you can, I mean
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51 [00:10:46] <valerius> maxzor maybe, it is dirty?
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54 [00:11:09] <maxzor> not sure what you mean
55 [00:11:12] <valerius> maxzor did you tried to run fsck.ntfs?
56 [00:11:39] <valerius> maxzor it could be dirty, e.g., not checked
57 [00:11:55] <maxzor> fsck.ntfs?
58 [00:12:06] <maxzor> do you mean running fsck
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60 [00:12:14] <valerius> maxzor yes, it seems, it should be called like this
61 [00:12:24] <Megaf> maxzor, you have to choices
62 [00:12:25] <valerius> maxzor yes, fsck
63 [00:12:36] <Megaf> maxzor, you can try to fix the partition with fsck
64 [00:12:38] <maxzor> can fsck ruin data?
65 [00:12:57] <Megaf> maxzor, or, just clear the dirty flag and mount it anyway. ntfsfix -b /dev/sdb1
66 [00:13:29] <Megaf> The commended option would be using windows checkdisk tool to fix the partition, that's the only less dengerous way
67 [00:13:43] <Megaf> ntfs is proprietary as far as I know
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72 [00:14:34] <maxzor> alright, thanks for inputs, ill get an external power cable tomorrow...
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130 [00:41:37] <Megaf> maxzor, You're welcome and good luck.
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147 [00:47:35] <rachelfish> Hi #debian
148 [00:47:55] <rachelfish> Does anyone here know the process of submitting software to Debian's apt repos?
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150 [00:48:14] <rachelfish> This request has been open since 2015 - replaced-url
151 [00:48:15] <judd> Bug replaced-url
152 [00:48:28] <rachelfish> On github: replaced-url
153 [00:50:38] <rachelfish> DDNet is a fork of Teeworlds, which is already available in apt
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155 [00:50:53] <rachelfish> replaced-url
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170 [00:56:09] <borrougagnou> bonjour j'ai un petit problème avec ssh, j'ai rm comme un idiot tout le dossier ssh se trouvant dans /etc... est-ce que quelqu'un sais comment je peux le recrée?
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172 [00:56:30] <annadane> !fr
173 [00:56:30] <dpkg> Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
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176 [00:57:38] <annadane> borrougagnou, ou aussi debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
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178 [00:58:15] <borrougagnou> annadane>aie ! sorry I'm wrong
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180 [00:59:04] <n4dir> borrougagnou: if you apt-get remove the ssh packages and reinstall them, they should be recreated.
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182 [00:59:40] <borrougagnou> n4dir> I try but no working :/
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184 [00:59:45] <borrougagnou> *I have
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186 [00:59:52] <annadane> !not working
187 [00:59:53] <dpkg> "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>.
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189 [01:00:16] <annadane> sorry, i shouldn't go straight to the bot for stuff like that. i mean, how is it not working?
190 [01:00:28] <borrougagnou> x)
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192 [01:00:35] <Tramp> !confmiss
193 [01:00:36] <dpkg> You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>.
194 [01:00:46] <annadane> ahh
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197 [01:01:24] <n4dir> ahh from here too :-)
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202 [01:02:21] <borrougagnou> annadane>he don't recreate this ssh folder, I have same try apt-get purge ssh, but... don't change... I don't found /etc/ssh :/
203 [01:03:01] <Natechip> installing stretch 19.2 and it says cd-rom couldnt be mounted
204 [01:03:17] <borrougagnou> huuu... impossible x)
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206 [01:04:23] <Tramp> borrougagnou: ssh is a metapackage. purge openssh-server and openssh-client
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209 [01:04:39] <borrougagnou> HA ! okay
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214 [01:07:18] <borrougagnou> Tramp>I remove too openssh-sftp-server?
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216 [01:07:44] <borrougagnou> oops I invert too and the command
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237 [01:17:14] <Tramp> borrougagnou: it depends on openssh-client, so it should be removed when you remove the client
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241 [01:18:45] <annadane> Natechip, how did you write the image to the cd
242 [01:18:52] <annadane> in other words, what program
243 [01:19:05] <Natechip> annadane: i used rufus
244 [01:19:36] <annadane> !rufus
245 [01:19:37] <dpkg> rufus is a tool that can be used to make bootable USB devices under Windows. It is not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>.
246 [01:19:44] <annadane> you should use win32diskimager instead
247 [01:19:48] <annadane> !win32diskimager
248 [01:19:48] <dpkg> win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from replaced-url
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257 [01:23:01] <borrougagnou> Tramp>humm :/ I have purge and after re install openssh-server openssh-client openssh-sftp-server but... I don't have /etc/ssh folder :/
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259 [01:23:13] <Natechip> k
260 [01:23:37] <evilbug> who's talking smack about me?
261 [01:24:19] <annadane> evilbug, nobody. you may have gotten pinged because there was bot spam earlier
262 [01:24:32] <evilbug> so that spam bot was talking smack.
263 [01:24:38] <evilbug> hold my earrings.
264 [01:25:04] <evilbug> #comeatmebro
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266 [01:25:17] <annadane> take it to #debian-offtopic, please
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268 [01:25:33] <evilbug> party pooper.
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272 [01:27:11] <InSomN1aC> ns identify a2r6d0i1t
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274 [01:27:33] <annadane> borrougagnou, i don't know much about ssh but i feel you don't need an etc folder to use ssh
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277 [01:27:59] <annadane> i could be wrong, of course
278 [01:28:02] <evilbug> /etc/ssh holds the main config.
279 [01:28:03] <borrougagnou> annadane>how you configure port and other if you don't have this folder? :/
280 [01:28:30] <evilbug> borrougagnou: bro, if you apt install ssh that folder should show up.
281 [01:28:31] <annadane> ah, okay, makes sense. i shouldn't talk about things i don't possess knowledge of.
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285 [01:29:27] <borrougagnou> wow ._. very strange
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287 [01:29:34] <clinton> USBs are automounting in "/media/clinton/USB_name" under my username as owner as group, but as read only with permissions "r-xr-xr-x". How can I get them to automount read/write?
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290 [01:30:39] <evilbug> borrougagnou: it showed up?
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292 [01:31:13] <borrougagnou> yes, ._. is strange openssh-server don't purpose to install this package ._.
293 [01:31:27] <evilbug> because that's a noob package ;)
294 [01:31:30] <evilbug> just ssh
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297 [01:31:53] <borrougagnou> no I have try remove and re install "ssh" packet only but is not working
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299 [01:32:03] <evilbug> borrougagnou: ssh is really more a meta package that takes care of all dependencies and such.
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307 [01:34:06] <borrougagnou> yes :/
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318 [01:41:48] <borrougagnou> oww .__. strange... impossible to connect ssh... when I try ssh <ip> -l root .... He ask me for my password... but when I enter... .___. he say Permission denied ._. why?
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320 [01:42:20] <evilbug> ...
321 [01:42:26] <evilbug> root login is probably disabled.
322 [01:42:29] <evilbug> don't root login.
323 [01:42:30] <metastable> By default, yes.
324 [01:42:37] <christianpoveda> hi! does anyone knows if is possible to install firefox aurora from the mozilla.debian.net repo?
325 [01:42:40] <Megaf> borrougagnou, if Debian Stretch then root is disabled by default
326 [01:42:52] <borrougagnou> ha !!! okay... it's new for me x)
327 [01:43:01] <metastable> It's been disabled by default before stretch.
328 [01:43:08] <Megaf> borrougagnou, /etc/ssh/sshd_config edit that
329 [01:43:21] <themill> christianpoveda: I think their front page makes that prety clear
330 [01:43:27] <metastable> borrougagnou: Do NOT log in as root via SSH. The default is the sane choice.
331 [01:43:33] <Megaf> christianpoveda, wow, is there a Mozilla repo for debian?
332 [01:43:47] <Natechip> yayaya
333 [01:43:51] <Natechip> cd rom mounted
334 [01:44:03] <themill> Megaf: it currently doesn't contain anything
335 [01:44:29] <christianpoveda> and there is no other option?
336 [01:44:42] <borrougagnou> metastable>okay
337 [01:44:45] <evilbug> christianpoveda: nah, download the tar from the site and install it in /bin then create a /usr/applications/firefox.desktop file to have it show up in the menu.
338 [01:44:58] <evilbug> christianpoveda: ~/bin **
339 [01:45:02] <christianpoveda> jmmm ok
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347 [01:48:18] <evilbug> christianpoveda: or switch to ubuntu for the ppa ;)
348 [01:48:25] <christianpoveda> evilbug: plz no
349 [01:48:32] <evilbug> why?
350 [01:48:39] <Megaf> christianpoveda, there's firefox 56 and 57 in that repo
351 [01:48:43] <evilbug> ubuntu server, toss a gui on top, yolo.
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353 [01:48:59] <christianpoveda> maybe is a personal bias
354 [01:49:06] <evilbug> sure.
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358 [01:52:04] <Megaf> <christianpoveda> hi! does anyone knows if is possible to install firefox aurora from the mozilla.debian.net repo?
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360 [01:52:14] <Megaf> Asnwer: You can install Firefox Quantum
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362 [01:52:21] <Megaf> which is 57 b9
363 [01:52:27] <Megaf> that is, latest beta
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366 [01:52:38] <Megaf> I just installed from that repo
367 [01:52:42] <Megaf> pretty cool actually
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369 [01:52:58] <Megaf> Thanks a million for letting me know I could do that
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374 [01:54:04] <brizz> how can I remove the default Network/Volume/Power widget in gnome3? (replaced-url
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379 [01:56:16] <Megaf> brizz, you want to remove just the icons?
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382 [01:58:42] <rant> I know right? been asking that question for days and doesn't just remove gnome3 and use something (easily) configurable
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386 [01:59:17] <brizz> ...just don't want it in the top toolbar anymore
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388 [01:59:56] <rant> for decades all you had to do was right click the toolbar, then they release the new feature of not having any of the old features..
389 [02:00:59] <rant> brizz: have you tried any gnome specific channels?
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391 [02:01:16] <brizz> @rant ...or, i have pretty much everything i want laid out nice, have used other desktop environments, and just want to get rid of this. ---yes @rant
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393 [02:01:39] <brizz> got a rtard response suggesting i try to imagine it not being there
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395 [02:02:01] <rant> heh.. in which, the upstream channels or #debian-gnome?
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397 [02:02:20] <brizz> ...which is why i've just been dropping the question in the channel every couple of days--and then checking later for response. --#gnome
398 [02:02:33] <brizz> joining #debian-gnome now, thx
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400 [02:02:51] <rant> brizz: there is #debian-gnome on irc.oftc.net might be worth your time
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403 [02:04:05] <brizz> this is a 'server'...and i just happened to try gnome desktop. back when stretch was in unstable. loved the KDE, but my sys was crashing..
404 [02:04:27] <Megaf> brizz, You can do like me and move the top bar to the bottom, Done, no more icons in the top bar replaced-url
405 [02:04:40] <Megaf> And no more top bar either
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411 [02:06:02] <rant> I can't endorse anything that has programmers who have had a system for decades with easy GUI configuration then release a new verion with no GUI configration at all.. that is an "rtard response"
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413 [02:07:29] <Megaf> You can just use MATE...
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415 [02:07:37] <Megaf> MATE is GNOME 2, but better
416 [02:07:46] <brizz> ended up liking gnome, and stuck w/it. i went straight to gnome3 tho w/no previous long time use of any other version
417 [02:08:16] <Megaf> I basically went from KDE 3 to GNOME 3
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420 [02:08:43] <Megaf> But I'm alway hopping between DEs
421 [02:09:30] <brizz> also, like my topbar, ...found an addon recently that i really like (replaced-url
422 [02:09:51] <brizz> and google hasn't been all that helpful either. that, or no one uses gnome
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432 [02:13:55] <InSoMn1aK> +1 for MATE
433 [02:14:17] <InSoMn1aK> thats what i run at the moment
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439 [02:16:26] <well_laid_lawn> all the cool kids use tilers
440 [02:16:45] <aloo_shu> updating away folkses workflows *is* an annoyance
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442 [02:17:25] <Megaf> aloo_shu, I agree
443 [02:17:31] <Megaf> But devs no care
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445 [02:17:38] <Megaf> So we adapt
446 [02:17:42] <well_laid_lawn> !away
447 [02:17:43] <dpkg> Do not use public away/back messages in #debian. If we want to know where you are, we'll /whois you. In BitchX, /set auto_away off; in XChat, Preferences > Chatting > General > uncheck Announce Away Messages; ask in #yourircclient if you have questions. If you continue to use public aways/backs you will be devoiced. replaced-url
448 [02:18:16] <Megaf> well_laid_lawn, Why did you do that?
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464 [02:25:09] <ross`> After using awesome wm for 6 years I recently fell in love with windows 10 and the WSL.
465 [02:25:32] <Megaf> lol
466 [02:25:36] <ross`> W10 is actually a really sweet multiple desktop tiling wm now. I've been very happy with it
467 [02:25:43] <Megaf> Anything is more awesome than awesome...
468 [02:26:56] <evilbug> ross`: isn't it cool how it looks so much more terrible than a linux vm?
469 [02:28:05] <ross`> The only thing I don't like about W10 is the border and header tools on a window. But most crappy linux WMs these days have that same crap.
470 [02:28:27] <ross`> Windows used to suck, but since the creator update It's really nice. It still has a long way to go though.
471 [02:28:59] <ross`> Most of the people that crap on modern windows have never used it and start rattling off things that they think windows doesn't have because it didn't have it not realizing that windows has all the things they like in a linux wm!
472 [02:29:31] <ross`> W10 has: multiple desktops, X windows, bash, tiling window manager.
473 [02:29:59] <ryouma> is it turning into linux?
474 [02:30:00] <evilbug> ross`: are we talking about microsoft windows 10?
475 [02:30:04] <ross`> Now, I do 95% of stuff inside the WSL. But W10 is a really really great window manager.
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477 [02:30:07] <ross`> evilbug: Ya.
478 [02:30:09] <ross`> I'm not being sarcastic.
479 [02:30:13] <evilbug> ...
480 [02:30:15] <evilbug> ok.
481 [02:30:46] <evilbug> windows 10 is my main os but that bash for windows is ugly af plus a pita to customize colors and the regular horrible windows font rendering.
482 [02:30:56] <ross`> If you've never actually used W10 seriously get a clue. It took me about 120 hours of configuration and learning before I learned enough to like it and appreciate it.
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484 [02:31:05] <Natechip> select and install software fails again!
485 [02:31:07] <ross`> Yeah, the default ubuntu bash is hell
486 [02:31:19] <ross`> I recommend using rxvt-unicode and an X server like Xming
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489 [02:31:43] <evilbug> ross`: but you're using the bash app for the subsystem or am i missing something?
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492 [02:32:02] <ross`> evilbug: Yes and no. From the bash app I spawn rxvt-unicode terminals that are backgrounded.
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495 [02:32:13] <evilbug> right.
496 [02:32:20] <evilbug> that's what i'm talking about, it's ugly.
497 [02:32:22] <ross`> So I have a single bash for windows that I use to spawn terminals (which is clunky, and the one thing that could be nicer)
498 [02:32:27] <ross`> Yeah, that part is ugly.
499 [02:32:33] <ross`> But once I have my rxvt-unicode terminals it's all nice
500 [02:32:44] <Krennic> i use w10 too but i use the ubuntu subsystem
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502 [02:32:55] <evilbug> i only use that linux feature in windows for the quickest of operations when my vms are down.
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504 [02:33:13] <Krennic> and use debian in virtual box
505 [02:33:17] <evilbug> i do web dev and it burns my eyes to stare at windows font and color rendering.
506 [02:33:25] <ross`> About 80% of the stuff iI do in linux anyway is over ssh
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508 [02:33:33] <ross`> On my server or some server anyway
509 [02:33:48] <ross`> So in that regard, I don't notice that I'm using W10 as a window manager.
510 [02:33:57] <ross`> ANd it's tiling features and multiple desktops don't get in the way.
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514 [02:34:06] <ross`> the WSL IS slower than native.
515 [02:34:12] <ross`> That cannot be denied.
516 [02:34:30] <evilbug> i notice the crap windows font rendering.
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518 [02:34:33] <ross`> But unless you are doing filesystem heavy operations (which why would you) it's fine as a client OS
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520 [02:34:48] <evilbug> you do you, my dude.
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525 [02:36:25] <Natechip> why
526 [02:36:36] <Natechip> does 9.2.1 installer never select and install software
527 [02:36:43] <Natechip> it always fails there
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532 [02:38:13] <annadane> Natechip, try a different mirrror
533 [02:38:29] <evilbug> punctuation would help too.
534 [02:38:30] <Natechip> ok annadane
535 [02:38:38] <Natechip> looks like the ftp.us is broken
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537 [02:39:05] <annadane> deb.debian.org may be preferable, it's automatic redirect
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604 [02:58:56] <Natechip> ...
605 [02:58:57] <Natechip> wow
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629 [03:00:19] <ryouma> annadane: replaced-url
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648 [03:04:20] <Megaf> ryouma, deb. always better
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650 [03:04:35] <Megaf> will always be a repo updated and working
651 [03:04:45] <Megaf> and the best for your connection
652 [03:05:01] <Megaf> it will select ftp.us if thats best for ya
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656 [03:06:05] <ryouma> Megaf: thanks
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661 [03:07:48] <ryouma> does this solve the problem of a 0 day bug getting through because a repo is not updated fast enough?
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667 [03:12:27] <Megaf> ryouma, I'm not sure
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679 [03:18:47] <renatosilva> is there a packaging channel?
680 [03:18:55] * Natechip installed debian 9.2.1 for the 200th time
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698 [03:26:06] <annadane> renatosilva, #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net
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700 [03:27:18] <Megaf> Natechip, welcome to the club#
701 [03:27:26] <Natechip> hehe
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703 [03:27:41] <Megaf> There's a learning curve until you get the hang on of everything
704 [03:27:54] <renatosilva> annadane: I mean where packagers discuss, not learn
705 [03:28:05] <Natechip> well i haven't even gotten it installed yet and already broke it :p
706 [03:28:37] <renatosilva> annadane: I just want to find if someone is working on vala 0.38 and discuss one issue
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708 [03:29:00] <Megaf> Natechip, here some info on the mirror thing replaced-url
709 [03:29:02] <annadane> renatosilva, i could be wrong but i feel #debian-mentors is probably also the place to do that
710 [03:29:08] <Megaf> not very clear or helpful really
711 [03:29:13] <Megaf> but it's what we have
712 [03:29:28] <annadane> renatosilva, if not then i'm sure they'll redirect you
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724 [03:33:07] <Natechip> its the moment of truth
725 [03:33:09] <jordanm> mentors is more for people packaging with the intention of uploading to debian main. for private packages, here is suitable
726 [03:33:12] <Natechip> dunnnnnn dunnn
727 [03:33:18] <renatosilva> annadane: ok thanks
728 [03:33:44] * Natechip sees the installing bar 1 inch away from the end :o
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730 [03:33:56] <jordanm> nevermind, i missed the rest of that conversation
731 [03:34:19] <Megaf> Just upgraded from Buster to Sid
732 [03:34:25] <Megaf> new GNOME is quite nice
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734 [03:34:30] <eck> from buster to sid?
735 [03:34:37] <Natechip> why Megaf
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737 [03:35:02] <jordanm> renatosilva: for that it's probably best to email pkg-vala-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org
738 [03:35:04] <Megaf> This install on this laptop was already a soup of buster, sid and experimental (never do that, never)
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741 [03:35:17] <Megaf> And I wanted the bleeding edge software :)
742 [03:35:42] <Megaf> also, my work laptop will stay on Stretch, this laptop is where I experiment stuff
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744 [03:37:36] <Megaf> Tho I still can't change the screen brightness
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747 [03:39:39] <Natechip> ugh
748 [03:39:43] <Natechip> it failed again
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750 [03:39:58] <Natechip> select and install software fails everytime
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752 [03:41:04] <Megaf> Natechip, weird
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754 [03:41:14] <Natechip> ik
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758 [03:41:32] <Megaf> Natechip, any idea if it's failing to get from the USB or internet?
759 [03:41:42] <Natechip> idk
760 [03:41:50] <Natechip> I even tried two usbs
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762 [03:42:15] <Megaf> and more than 2 ISOs too
763 [03:42:38] <Megaf> how did you make the USB Natechip ?
764 [03:43:06] <Natechip> Win32 disk imager
765 [03:43:20] <Megaf> that explains
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767 [03:45:08] <Megaf> Natechip, since you are on windows, try this replaced-url
768 [03:45:14] <Megaf> official Debian thing for windows
769 [03:45:24] <Natechip> ok
770 [03:45:56] <Natechip> I gtg will later
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774 [03:46:32] <annadane> win32diskimager *should* work, i don't know why it isn't
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778 [03:48:05] <kevin1024> For some reason my apt-get is failing with "Failed to fetch replaced-url
779 [03:48:08] <juona> Hello
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782 [03:48:59] <juona> I have this problem when using Unattend, my goal is to make it update automatically, this appearing when executing the debug,
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784 [03:49:07] <juona> replaced-url
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787 [03:49:48] <juona> [sudo] password for uno:
788 [03:49:48] <juona> Enabled logging to syslog via daemon facility
789 [03:49:48] <juona> Initial blacklisted packages:
790 [03:49:48] <juona> Initial whitelisted packages:
791 [03:49:48] <juona> Starting unattended upgrades script
792 [03:49:49] <juona> Allowed origins are: ['Debian buster', 'Debian buster-security', 'Debian buster-updates']
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796 [03:50:42] <JohnVonNeumann> hey guys, getting some docker failures pulling from debian jessie source lists whilst doing our ci pipeline builds
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798 [03:50:44] <annadane> kevin1024, try changing your mirror
799 [03:50:48] <juona> sorry, replaced-url
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802 [03:51:08] <annadane> kevin1024, also, you didn't post your output so it's hard to say what's failing
803 [03:51:09] <JohnVonNeumann> wondering if this is isolated?
804 [03:51:12] <kevin1024> JohnVonNeumann: I have the same issue
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806 [03:51:45] <JohnVonNeumann> ok this is reassuring at least kevin1024
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808 [03:52:57] <Megaf> kevin1024, first, use apt instead
809 [03:53:06] <Megaf> second, just do an apt update and try again
810 [03:53:49] <kevin1024> eh, it's failling as part of my docker build pipeline. Not sure how debian selects its mirror by default but the one it's picking is failing.
811 [03:54:16] <themill> kevin1024: there is no default mirror, just the one you have configured (deb.debian.org)
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813 [03:54:42] <themill> kevin1024: is this persistent or does it go away when you try again?
814 [03:54:44] <Megaf> weird, JohnVonNeumann just entered here complaining about docket too
815 [03:54:57] <Megaf> Maybe the docker image your guys got is borked
816 [03:54:57] <kevin1024> persists across docker builds
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818 [03:55:10] <themill> kevin1024: and does it work from the host machine?
819 [03:55:19] <kevin1024> replaced-url
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821 [03:55:30] <kevin1024> host machine isn't running debian :-P
822 [03:55:30] <themill> wget --header='Host: deb.debian.org' "replaced-url
823 [03:55:51] <kevin1024> I notice that it's not asking for Packages.gz (which exists), it's asking for Packages
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827 [03:56:35] <themill> you didn't notice that unless you were sniffing the http connection or you have an http proxy there
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830 [03:57:04] <kevin1024> just based on the URL in the output, not running pcap or anything
831 [03:57:09] <JohnVonNeumann> yeah Megaf we're pulling from official dockerhub
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833 [03:57:12] <themill> the output doesn't tell you that
834 [03:57:22] <themill> is the docker image configured to use some specific compression?
835 [03:57:29] <Megaf> well, your docker image is missconfigurated guys
836 [03:57:32] <Megaf> simple as that
837 [03:57:41] <Megaf> and why Jessie?
838 [03:57:54] <Megaf> Stretch is the current
839 [03:58:01] <kevin1024> In my case it's the default docker image for ruby
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842 [03:58:27] <Megaf> well, I always disliked docker and never trusted it at all
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844 [03:58:38] <Megaf> LXC and KVM for the win
845 [03:58:44] <Megaf> I mean, normal LXC
846 [03:59:00] <Megaf> kevin1024, is there a place in docker you can open a bug report?
847 [03:59:11] <Megaf> the error ha nothing to do with Debian
848 [03:59:25] <Megaf> it's just a mistake in that script
849 [03:59:35] <Megaf> from the guy who made the docker image
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852 [04:00:03] <Megaf> and apt should be used anyway, not apt-get
853 [04:00:12] <themill> Megaf: that makes no difference
854 [04:00:24] <Megaf> it does
855 [04:00:25] <themill> and actually, for scripts, apt-get should be used
856 [04:00:27] <themill> no
857 [04:00:37] <themill> kevin1024: did that wget succeed locally?
858 [04:00:40] <Megaf> well, I'm not sure about deb. but it makes for httpredir
859 [04:00:48] <themill> no
860 [04:00:51] <themill> please stop
861 [04:00:55] <Megaf> themill, the script is requesting the wrong URL
862 [04:01:05] <themill> no, please stop
863 [04:01:12] <Megaf> lol
864 [04:01:18] <kevin1024> Yeah, the wget worked locally.
865 [04:02:08] <themill> kevin1024: does the docker image have some sort of /etc/apt/apt.conf or /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/* that would be selecting a compression?
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867 [04:03:50] <kevin1024> yup
868 [04:04:06] <kevin1024> replaced-url
869 [04:04:24] <Megaf> use paste.debian.net please
870 [04:04:24] <themill> that should be fine
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874 [04:05:18] <themill> kevin1024: any local proxy around that might be being naughty?
875 [04:05:50] <kevin1024> No proxy. But it seems to have just fixed itself.
876 [04:06:02] <themill> the cdn is occasionally like that
877 [04:06:06] <themill> :(
878 [04:06:19] <JohnVonNeumann> im hoping youre correct kevin1024
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880 [04:07:39] <Megaf> themill, back in httpredir days I read in the wiki that in order to use all httpredir features you had to use apt instead of apt-get
881 [04:07:58] <Megaf> that included some sort of parallel downloading and better redirection, maybe
882 [04:08:20] <themill> that's quite incorrect
883 [04:08:30] <themill> apt-get and apt use the exact same downloading code
884 [04:08:43] <Megaf> well, cant find the wiki article anymore and httpredir is discontinued already
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891 [04:13:21] <Megaf> so, does apt has any advantage over apt-get?
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894 [04:13:30] <Megaf> or even aptitude
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901 [04:16:00] <JohnVonNeumann> cheers for help guys
902 [04:16:05] <JohnVonNeumann> much appreciated
903 [04:16:08] <JohnVonNeumann> have a good one
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973 [04:58:39] <rec0de> @debhelper <3
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982 [05:05:46] <aDverb> Hey
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1005 [05:14:29] <Primer> Anyone know what the "proper" way to enable core files from apache in Debian? Apparently one is supposed to add entries to /etc/security/limits.conf, but...
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1009 [05:15:55] <Primer> is there any way to get any info back from the running apache?
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1011 [05:16:07] <Primer> ok, nm, seems I can cat /proc/apache_master_pid/limits
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1025 [05:28:10] <n4dir> VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200/1100] ; is handled by xserver-xorg-video-radeon ?
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1031 [05:29:05] <Droid2Debian> n4dir, you need the firmware-graphics-amdgpu package
1032 [05:29:46] <n4dir> thanks. I can't find such a package
1033 [05:30:15] <Droid2Debian> n4dir, you need the firmware-amdgpu-firmware package
1034 [05:30:46] <bazhang> ,v xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
1035 [05:30:47] <judd> Package: xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 1.2.0-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.2.0-1+b1; buster: 1.4.0-1; sid: 1.4.0-1
1036 [05:30:55] <bazhang> or that
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1042 [05:32:28] <n4dir> can't find both of them. This is debian 8 and kFreeBSD. Probably one of it is the reason
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1088 [06:10:20] <Malakuto> Hello! Is this the Debian support channel?
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1090 [06:10:44] <n4dir> yes, Malakuto
1091 [06:11:35] <Malakuto> I've been trying to install AMD GPU drivers. But I need to edit the sources.list file. How do I open folders as root, please?
1092 [06:12:22] <n4dir> for example: open a terminal emulator, type su to become root, then nano /etc/apt/sources.list
1093 [06:12:38] <n4dir> i think for a gui editor you can use "gksu" or something like that, but i don't recall well
1094 [06:12:57] <n4dir> makes sense?
1095 [06:13:05] <Malakuto> Yes, thanks a lot.
1096 [06:13:17] <Malakuto> Let me see if I can manage to install the proprietary drivers.
1097 [06:13:19] <n4dir> cool. good luck
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1101 [06:15:29] <Malakuto> Btw n4dir, how do I save the file?
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1103 [06:15:51] <n4dir> the cli editor nano has the keyboard shortcuts on the screen, i think the bottom.
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1106 [06:16:17] <n4dir> i don't use it.
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1108 [06:17:04] <n4dir> looks like ctrl+O and then ctrl+X to exit it
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1112 [06:20:34] <Malakuto> I don't know why, but debian keeps demanding a cd inserted in my cd-dvd drive.
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1114 [06:21:17] <n4dir> If you edit your sources.list, make sure to remove or at least comment the line which starts with CD (or cd, something like that, it is pretty clear)
1115 [06:21:27] <Malakuto> Oh, thanks.
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1117 [06:21:36] <n4dir> happens to me all the time. :-)
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1123 [06:26:49] <Malakuto> I hope fglrx works this time on Debian...
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1129 [06:27:46] <Malakuto> rebooting, bbl
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1193 [07:24:17] <xz> hi there, I just updated from debian 8 to debian 9 and I have a problem with one file that sits in /tmp. On debian 8 that file was symlinked to /var/replaced-url
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1197 [07:27:18] <xz> when I try to access that file explicitly from webbrowser I get Error 403, forbiden
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1199 [07:28:47] <pfote> check the symlink permission in your apache config
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1201 [07:29:31] <xz> pfoo: so I have 5 sylinks, 4 sit in /var/replaced-url
1202 [07:29:44] <pfote> hrm
1203 [07:29:50] <xz> pfoo: it seems like there is something crazy about /tmp for whatever reason
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1205 [07:30:46] <pfote> check the directories options in your apache vhost config
1206 [07:31:08] <pfote> and check the permissions of your /tmp
1207 [07:31:40] <pfote> maybe you have symlinks allowed for /var/replaced-url
1208 [07:31:47] <pfote> and only for this
1209 [07:31:56] <xz> pfoo: AH00037: Symbolic link not allowed or link target not accessible: /var/replaced-url
1210 [07:32:00] <pfote> hrm no, that doesnt cover /home
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1212 [07:32:54] <pfote> ok, then go by that ... is it accessible? for the replaced-url
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1214 [07:34:10] <xz> pfoo: replaced-url
1215 [07:34:29] <xz> pfoo: that's my 000-default.conf
1216 [07:35:49] <pfote> yeah, look spretty default
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1219 [07:36:28] <xz> pfote: tmp is 1777/drwxrwxrwt
1220 [07:36:51] <pfote> and the file?
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1222 [07:37:58] <xz> pfote: file is: 0644/-rw-r--r--
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1225 [07:38:55] <xz> pfote: but other symlinked files are the same
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1227 [07:40:09] <pfote> sounds ok then
1228 [07:40:28] <pfote> but i would test .. become replaced-url
1229 [07:41:10] <xz> ok, that's an easy test
1230 [07:42:09] <xz> This account is currently not available.
1231 [07:42:16] <xz> pfote: I cannot 'su replaced-url
1232 [07:42:40] <pfote> hrm
1233 [07:42:59] <xz> pfote: maybe debian 9 is weird?
1234 [07:43:15] <pfote> lol no, usually not :-)
1235 [07:43:49] <xz> pfote: but replaced-url
1236 [07:44:04] <xz> pfote: maybe one cannot become replaced-url
1237 [07:44:11] <xz> pfote: maybe it's only a group, not an user?
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1242 [07:47:56] <pfote> maybe its forbidden, which would makes sense
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1244 [07:48:09] <pfote> try sudo -u replaced-url
1245 [07:48:26] <xz> pfote: I just tried that. I can cat the file no problem
1246 [07:48:39] <xz> pfote: and it's visible with ls
1247 [07:49:51] <pfote> then its the apache
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1250 [07:50:51] <xz> pfote: any ideas on how to debug it?
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1253 [07:51:03] <xz> pfote: I went through error.log, but that wasn't really useful
1254 [07:51:23] <xz> pfote: permissions of file and permissions of symlink are the same as other working symlinks
1255 [07:51:32] <xz> maybe /tmp is mounted with some bad flags?
1256 [07:52:04] <pfote> i would start with adding a option to allow symlinks all over the filesystem ... somethin like that
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1260 [07:54:38] <xz> pfote: added: Options FollowSymLinks to 000-default.com, restarted apache2, same thing
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1263 [07:55:06] <pfote> add a explicit <directory /> directive
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1265 [07:57:32] <xz> pfote: replaced-url
1266 [07:57:45] <xz> pfote: now whole directory is 403 Forbidden
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1277 [07:58:49] <pfote> seems your in the right place and have overwritten something
1278 [07:58:57] <pfote> some permission
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1280 [07:59:33] <xz> pfote: just changed FollowSymLinks to +FollowSymLinks
1281 [07:59:44] <xz> pfote: now directory is back, accessible but that one symlink still gone
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1331 [08:05:58] <daniel-s> What is the purpose of that?
1332 [08:06:16] <dax> daniel-s: to be annoying
1333 [08:06:18] <Aristar> to annoy people i'm guessing
1334 [08:06:36] <LambdaComplex> Sometimes calling people dumb on 4chan just isn't satisfying enough, so you have to get bots to spam freenode instead
1335 [08:06:39] <LambdaComplex> I guess
1336 [08:07:09] <nyaomi> and oftc, which gets hit 10x as hard because they allow tor connections without authenticating
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1339 [08:08:13] <LambdaComplex> Setting up bots to connect via tor to spam irc.....sounds like a lot of effort to set up
1340 [08:08:16] * LambdaComplex will stick to 4chan
1341 [08:08:20] <pfote> the spanish say "the mother of idiots is always pregnant" .. there is some truth in it
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1350 [08:12:19] <LambdaComplex> pfote: i'm stealing that
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1353 [08:12:30] <xz> pfote: could SELinux be messing my symlinks?
1354 [08:13:07] <pfote> xz: could imagine that /tmp/ is specially protected, yes
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1356 [08:14:15] <LambdaComplex> how good is debian's SELinux support? i checked for 8 a while ago, and best i could figure was that the package containing the policies(might be the wrong word) didn't exist for 8 because it wasn't finished in time for the package freeze
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1358 [08:14:39] <Aristar> cross-fs links are typically protected in some form on most distros
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1360 [08:15:16] <xz> Aristar: would my symlink sitting in /tmp be a cross-fs?
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1362 [08:15:33] <xz> Aristar: I had exactly same setup on debian 8, 1+ hour ago before upgrade and it worked like a charm
1363 [08:15:47] <xz> Aristar: only after I upgraded to debian 9 I started having problems with that damn symlink
1364 [08:15:56] <Aristar> depends on the situation but usually /tmp is nosuid/noexec on proper server configs
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1366 [08:16:28] <xz> Aristar: my 'mount' lists 4x tmpfs node, so I don't know which one is /tmp
1367 [08:17:07] <xz> Aristar: regardless, they are all nosuid/nodev, few are also noexec
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1370 [08:18:22] <hubbah> Hi, i got a rpi3 with a rfid reader, which is controlled by python-uinput library. The kern.log should not be spammed with python-uinput as /devices/virtual/input/input1240 (+1 each second) right?.. Because after a couple of hours i need to reboot the rpi in order to reset it. Anyone got any idea?
1371 [08:18:26] <Aristar> also if you really require selinux for some reason or another, you're likely using the wrong distro then. debian's approach to security is much different
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1376 [08:19:04] <xz> nope, I don't want SELinux, I'm just trying to figure out what could cause apache2 to refuse serving that file that it was serving just fine on debian 8 :\
1377 [08:19:25] <xz> I've been loyal to debian for a long time, never had a single issue. That's my first one :/
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1380 [08:20:04] <xz> Aristar: looks like I don't have SELinux installed, it needs to be explicitly installed by hand
1381 [08:20:33] <Aristar> yeah, by default debian uses more standardized linux security models and a sort of secure by design approach
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1384 [08:21:20] <Aristar> and typically more minimalistic than some mainstream distros, the less junk running on the box reduces attack surface
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1394 [08:24:16] <Aristar> but that's a lengthy debate, i dunno regarding your apache & symlink issue tbh but i would start by increasing log verbosity if there isn't any known issues or upgrade/migration documentation that mentions anything relevant to your from 8.x->9.x regarding it
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1397 [08:25:58] <Aristar> could have also been just a nonstandard apache config that was working before but doesn't anymore too, there was some huge issues on centos and others when they started making /tmp a tmpfs by default and other systemd related stuff messing with stuff
1398 [08:26:52] <Aristar> i don't think debian does tmpfs /tmp by default though IIRC so i dunno
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1400 [08:27:08] <xz> Aristar: maybe I should just mount /dev/shm to /mytmp and go from there?
1401 [08:27:51] <Aristar> wait, you had shm mounted in tmp before?
1402 [08:28:09] <xz> Aristar: I haven't touched /tmp on debian 8, it was default
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1404 [08:28:34] <xz> Aristar: but trying all things I've tried so far it seems like a problem lays within /tmp itself
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1407 [08:30:13] <xz> Aristar: ok, df /tmp shows filesystem /dev/root <- I guess that means it's not mounted in memory, right?
1408 [08:30:35] <Aristar> it's probably also not really a good idea to have apache serving files from /tmp too, there's likely more standardized stuff in /var or /run or /srv in some cases
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1410 [08:31:09] <xz> Aristar: I have a file that gets rewritten very often, I wanted to save SSD (running on VPS)
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1412 [08:31:23] <xz> Aristar: that's why I put it into /tmp to begin with
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1414 [08:34:31] <Aristar> if it's not on a tmpfs then it's not saving anything, `df -halT` should show all of the mounts on the system, and simply typing `mount` should show a lot of details as well
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1416 [08:35:32] <xz> Aristar: it's not showing /tmp I guess it's then just a directory
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1418 [08:35:50] <Aristar> i dunno, i don't have any recent apache experience nor a running debian box at the moment though but maybe someone else can help if you've exhausted other resources like the typical migration guides and such
1419 [08:36:10] <xz> Aristar: thanks for your time
1420 [08:36:34] <dionysus69> I increased virtual partition in virtualbox to 300gb from 200
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1422 [08:36:51] <dionysus69> lsblk guest debian sees sda as 300 and sda1 as 200
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1424 [08:37:13] <dionysus69> but when I do sudo resize2fs /dev/sda1 300G
1425 [08:37:13] <dionysus69> resize2fs 1.43.4 (31-Jan-2017)
1426 [08:37:13] <dionysus69> The containing partition (or device) is only 48827869 (4k) blocks.
1427 [08:37:13] <dionysus69> You requested a new size of 78643200 blocks
1428 [08:37:21] <dionysus69> any ideas what am I missing?
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1434 [08:39:12] <mountainhigh> lol
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1440 [08:45:51] <xz> I moved that file to /dev/shm instead (which is mounted by default to tmpfs) and now everything is fine
1441 [08:46:01] <xz> I don't know what's wrong with debian 9's /tmp dir
1442 [08:46:12] <xz> I've never seend /tmp to be just a regular directory on HDD
1443 [08:46:24] <xz> I guess I learned something new
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1523 [09:26:32] <Al_lA> what are the username spammers trying to achieve?
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1603 [09:53:38] <evanesoteric> Should I replace Firefox ESR with Firefox?
1604 [09:53:47] <glitch> I was hoping someone could help me I'm getting a tty1 error when I boot my computer
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1611 [09:54:29] <glitch> before I shut it off I installed bgfminer and configured it
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1614 [09:56:10] <dexta> morn
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1617 [09:56:33] <glitch> dexta can you help me?
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1622 [09:58:16] <kopper> evanesoteric: Why would you do it?
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1630 [09:59:26] <SwedeMike> vhasi: /win 2
1631 [09:59:28] <SwedeMike> oops
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1633 [09:59:56] <glitch> Can anyone help me?
1634 [10:00:15] <klys> mebby. are you asking to ask
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1638 [10:00:55] <glitch> I ask a question earlier but no one responded
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1642 [10:01:06] <kopper> glitch that was barely a sentence
1643 [10:01:10] <kopper> Let alone a question
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1646 [10:01:38] <glitch> I am getting a tty1 error when I boot
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1656 [10:02:24] <kopper> Does it say just "tty error" and nothing else happens?
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1658 [10:02:36] <glitch> I think there is something wrong with my video drivers
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1661 [10:02:58] <annadane> where did you download bfgminer from, is it even in debian? but i wouldn't expect even then to get a tty error
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1665 [10:03:55] <glitch> Well, yeah, but then I followed a youtube video to fix it and now all i get is a curser
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1668 [10:04:37] <glitch> I can boot into recovery though
1669 [10:04:40] <skakan> DEADK CANT CODE WORTH A FUCK AND HE SCARED OPAL WILL HACK HIS SHIT: Hydrastra aedinius JimmySteve p0g Askr nyuszika7h binaryc sussudio maik dreamer b LordLamer CowboyNeal burdz holmgren ultralow bardkorren SwedeMike saboru Ani- kInOzAwA RUDE ibex lappet super_gollum raSter^ vutral citypw damiano bipolar Xanthor edvb mxh- juhop kward Tempesta SuperSeriousCat martinus__ royiv rolig Quantumcross afx237 gluon vivid undeni samouy hawken timeless koci CtrlC
1670 [10:04:40] <koci> WELL FUCHS IS A FURRY GAY QUEEN PROBABLY WHY HE IS SCARED: r3m MrAlexandr0 Quick_Wango mutante riex sasukeskapa Al_lA pyllyukko wolfmitchell IdleGandalf overlord_tm sine0 mati f3bruary jsleeio satbyy sc_ Voldenet \2h1s SWAT mxh- rax- Hijiri mort cliluw vOYtEC yonder olivetree_ elkmoose seekr jonathaN sztelke _tremo cusco skagerak eb0t sandroandrade deadk pseubodot a_j__c jmnk nick123 renzhi slicepaperwords dave4925 Dr_Disk MoDaX alkyl Savemech lbatalha
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1672 [10:04:40] <spik> DEADK CANT CODE WORTH A FUCK AND HE SCARED OPAL WILL HACK HIS SHIT: GNU\colossus ToeSnacks azizLIGHT saboru Nitori k4tfish komugi tyranny12 r00t ectospasm frankie amospalla mcintosh raidghost f0x Cosmophile volter mattgirv spacebison Hydroxide elysium CEnnis91 adelyne ezr pz hexhaxtron kriskropd meti integral teclo- Tulah M0nk3y jdiez infinity_ crash_ darkstalker brouette SolarAquarion Vector3 ChrisH dudz Johann thiagoss mns scoopex vvz Cueball klys BaW SuperSer
1673 [10:04:40] <DrDeag> EMERSON HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PUSSY BITCH: Rokixz Loomaanaatii Mottengrotte pablo_ Namikaze hassoon gatekeep sayo- Rhuarc Mysterytrain planetmaker scapinelli_ hexhaxtron spanglesontoast debchange DK2 trewas Peetz0r Ceber eck Downer ericnoan jrabe Esya koci chen stoffepojken ^v cooldude RoyK kini Swant sielicki nyuszika7h BlackPanx glebihan_ raidghost gmh bvdk Tulah [Gunner] damiano lan_stuff neechan hid3 edd graingert ArlequInOut CtrlC Natrick
1674 [10:04:40] <watersna> DEADK CANT CODE WORTH A FUCK AND HE SCARED OPAL WILL HACK HIS SHIT: lsyoyom ephemer0l tripkin richvdh boser Schmantinski Enric Saar Skaag nku bolt thoros TReK mati teclo- rant sn0wmonster webuser5224 ArchDuke nwe hexnewbie edi zupzupper iskatu {sd} Eryn_1983_FL pztrick p rh10 saboru gehaxelt kward phormulate spacebison verboese drale2k Pedr0 dave0x6d renzhi thinkpad cheapie Zerant mz` fauweh doogaille ribasushi bier Digz Uberius Rothgar`
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1677 [10:04:40] <edd> WELL FUCHS IS A FURRY GAY QUEEN PROBABLY WHY HE IS SCARED: hasdf NeilHanlon yCrazyEdd n4cht sulit bigpresh msev- Hijiri kline linuxthefish vook bertbob maik tyranny12 hanasaki edwardly yonder strive Keitaro rdz Exagone313 teej nadley Speed2u Mahe anonnumberanon m712 cusco skott ujjain Canucktux RobertClarke DXR Riku lsv_ MuffinMedic GPenguin bvdk spanglesontoast ws2k3 Haudegen skagerak hayer digilink dwar sobkas latez lord_helmet f0x tsurko
1678 [10:04:40] <koci> EMERSON HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PUSSY BITCH: thesovere Deviance erre r3m futex a64 twisted` nnyby ArchDuke michael_mbp nathamanath yCrazyEdd brick toruvinn Hestben alkyl opal gareth_ instin xsdg BaW dwar kevin1024 Willis Gabemo HaNN1BaL Dad` TheNerdisRight mutante marens KindOne Dr-Shadow geordie Olufunmilayo icxcnika Neo leochill dirac1 Bryanstein [red]claw pfoo FiendKing04 b0xii darkalia stealthii Cipher45 jonathaN christel peterrooney SporkWitch
1679 [10:04:40] <edd> FREENODE IRCOPS ARE SCARED OF OPAL: jhill skza WizardGed Nomads Typhon Hink TReK Toris rockstar[N] NeilHanlon GGMethos mirsal RobertClarke goberle pk64 oerheks Downer EF`` vaidy stoffepojken berndj Dj_Dexter CurryWurst BaW patsToms exezin Aethenelle miklcct_ conta MrDetonia bb36e BiGBOi KidBeta cmichel overlord_tm xand seprob komugi XeonSquared swordfischer ioudas^working latez gluon krzych zmachine LucaTM inaki candidat1 Tristan-Speccy ageis
1680 [10:04:40] <spik> NIKO WATCHES TOO MUCH CHILD PORN TO DO ANYTHING AGAINST OPAL: ghormoon Apeiron` lroe rdleon nick123 Ruebezahl flipp sef gagrio guios fury_ Hunterkll eki d00bster afx237 lotherk Savemech hycer spanglesontoast glebihan_ NeilHanlon pz jdiez debchange ecelis Riviera cvr remy HugsWontletgo __3r1c__ gr4yscale l9 jareth_ creat swordsmanz somnambler fast knx JohnDoh abrotman phar6oor Namarrgon llimeht SpeedyG awhitlock8 magnulu Skaag pixdamix Delta-One gareth__
1681 [10:04:40] <spik> MNIIP WANTS TO KLINE OPAL BUT HIS BOYFRIEND KLINE SAYS NO: esaym153 abff duckydan Kobaz lappet n-st Deific eki valdyn Puckel_ spanglesontoast hipodilski Snewp orb pseubodot coruja Vector3 Junaos NeoBlaster APLU noexcept_ daemonkeeper cliluw RoyK Rhuarc twisted` sputnik tabakhase iViLe erre jmcnaught nickle mistralol boser Eryn_1983_FL MeltedLux ghoti Randy hiya NoCode notemerson Logg kInOzAwA Spec nathanhi crayon LioneLL Ishaq television afx237
1682 [10:04:40] <spik> DEADK CANT CODE WORTH A FUCK AND HE SCARED OPAL WILL HACK HIS SHIT: SpeedyG swordsmanz makz MrGeneral cherti Strife1989 bardkorren r3m `slikts alk leachim6 hiya EmleyMoor p0g tabakhase Granis heurist FoolishOwl sim590 jhutchins vincent_c Obi-Wan geir_ Mahe xiqy Canucktux Bryanstein netrace futex kbelyea banging Ekho duracrisis msb mumixam baba_ edi pierrot candidat1 spritian spacebison blue Ceber esainane tdn sveva65 tccki Immanuel lavenders BlackPanx
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1684 [10:04:40] <spik> KLINE IS BUSY SUCKING ON OPALS NUTS TO TYPE ON A KEYBOARD (KLINE): levifig yen0p plicease Snakes ptx0 Tsutsukakushi abra0 Willis modlin Marlon MicroCheapFx__ slax0r anexit_ mati CurryWurst yepla kInOzAwA sdx23 JohnDoh quite teclo- kriskropd hipodilski shingouz JuPaname debsan_ homegrown makz typosaurus Freshnuts gratuxri pawalls Trellmor lkolstad lonelywi Natrick bipolar r00t renzhi lroe abracadaniel UUID00 webbyz whiskey9 Guest76936 bzed SolarAquarion lan_stuff
1685 [10:04:40] <spik> KLINE IS BUSY SUCKING ON OPALS NUTS TO TYPE ON A KEYBOARD (KLINE): brouette CrypticSquared kj4 jmsx F14W3D graingert ageis Remb Yugidude1 volter banging lan_stuff bertbob tiwake bvdk moufl akxwi-dave thnee zupzupper necrose99 heinrich5991 Snakes Typhon sidewalk sim590 Roedy Cipher45 `z JyZyXEL hsiktas dave0x6d Walex yepla vOYtEC le_pig adi SM0TVI kuchi rOss^64 Shadowcrit hramrach Olufunmilayo mukmuk pawalls melvin ariador KindOne bfit jsdk dysfigured
1686 [10:04:40] <koci> DEADK CANT CODE WORTH A FUCK AND HE SCARED OPAL WILL HACK HIS SHIT: Aristide fyrril adi Xanthor samtunez nickdastain deadk Dr-Shadow bgardner Smuckerz cliluw l MobileMatt joze teej deltam Fjorgynn Benefit flipp r00ter nopf civillian doogaille beardy geordie toorop ejsf television jnes Nazara her0 CEnnis91 Spec xsdg sag3 AciD` smidlers chachasmooth StephenS jager roniez dym Peetz0r pmn christel brouette netrace Ugrastil tekmo phogg
1687 [10:04:40] <dami> MNIIP WANTS TO KLINE OPAL BUT HIS BOYFRIEND KLINE SAYS NO: vamiry [Brain] jlacroix K1rk serban gnugr jimi1 heinrich5991 Hink quite sussudio phre4k nwe kriskropd hiya glebihan_ jrabe guideline Ticho pinnen bier Riku Delta-One lsv_ esaym153 noexcept_ netrace iNs verm1n peterS MicroCheapFx__ darkalia Henry151 nezZario luuh Skaag gerforce cbmuser edvb argusbr nchambers kalebo Sir_Designer Nik05 feodaron klys likcoras Noskcaj teraflops csh-harmful
1688 [10:04:40] <koci> DEADK CANT CODE WORTH A FUCK AND HE SCARED OPAL WILL HACK HIS SHIT: redrabbit Scotteh himuraken_ bigjazzsound Purec DLange superkulak sdx23 bureado b musti vaidy msb linuxthefish hexa- phormulate satanist beaver interd0me loeken swaechter Sir_Designer__ pcdummy solos banging EF`` Comnenus stu_meat Tsutsukakushi nathanhi ioudas^working Ool rymax99 Exagone313 bpsecret Deviance phinxy sqz Guest85236 luuh d-k Ad1Tech cnu- Ssquidly alchemistswl JobewanKenobi osx Enri
1689 [10:04:40] <instin> KLINE IS BUSY SUCKING ON OPALS NUTS TO TYPE ON A KEYBOARD (KLINE): Poster JStoker latez Almtesh tremolo LoRez Mysterytrain Riyria sidewalk synthmeat Arsiesys datasmurf_ AfroThundr Pugabyte martinus__ robotroll inaki klys DoctorD90 Vector3 stmiller Amplificator MACscr High_ Riku Hydrastra thiagoss dTal NaPs spacebison Hydroxide BenderRodriguez lukky513 DerLG hubbah sc_ Olufunmilayo jhebden Croepha netrace ChrisH SkyPatrol hesperaux frankie nbags Linlz at0m t
1690 [10:04:40] <jenson-wa> KLINE IS BUSY SUCKING ON OPALS NUTS TO TYPE ON A KEYBOARD (KLINE): a64 bvs esaym153 Uberius yepla talin tsia sekjun9878 fred`` georgeowell ongolaBoy rypervenche bamb ghormoon CodeBlue1776 elik darkstalker enki at0m bezaban CeBe lun Piggy jim petn-randall AJ_Z0 avantgardist phorce1 sim590 shadoxx nauticalnexus hubbah sveva65 rednul L235 martyn_h knidos Digz solarnetone [Echelon] Nnavd alexbligh1 thecoffemaker eleusis iNs Ryushin lonelywi Nik05 qman__ N3
1691 [10:04:40] <jenson-wa> WELL FUCHS IS A FURRY GAY QUEEN PROBABLY WHY HE IS SCARED: redrabbit ghormoon remy MrDetonia Atlas gerforce Jguy dave0x6d Stummi Ishaq a64 bruce549 Aix_ abff mxh- JobewanKenobi akxwi-dave dubwoc ogny d00bster damiano Immanuel LoRez pyllyukko SPF Tempesta ArchDuke gonyere MACscr paulgrmn Ruebezahl Deviance mastensg nicoulaj pk12 vuser neechan BaW dixie7z_ sn0wmonster mukmuk r00tobo smidlers c0ded llucenic nebul8 hesperaux de-facto r00ter bapa
1692 [10:04:40] <jenson-wa> NIKO WATCHES TOO MUCH CHILD PORN TO DO ANYTHING AGAINST OPAL: Namikaze b4d iter Loomaanaatii chrissl kajika fauweh gareth__ Willis jim volter hayer b0l3x vvz her0 preaction Gazooo DJDan hycer ebarch patsToms mistralol sloucher bezaban integral ghormoon super_gollum Riviera rozie ongolaBoy idmistir Esya piklu moufl edwardly mete parshimers ongy toozej disposable2 hipodilski Hoosilon_ Doldge GhostInTheShell tonyoy sherm17 blind m712 tensorpudding shannar
1693 [10:04:40] <jenson-wa> NIKO WATCHES TOO MUCH CHILD PORN TO DO ANYTHING AGAINST OPAL: Furai benf Ekho limbo_ nshp kuchi bnw pinnen spont4e ongy el lonelywi d-k karlamrhein denken Mahe _rubik Cosmophile likcoras sayo- osx watersna mukmuk cef eleusis rotaticus iNs iter scapinelli_ jareth_ __3r1c__ acperkins Snakes gehaxelt Masaomi[m] s0lar1s SaltySolomon a_j__c nadersith Riviera nezZario Cabanossi amd_0x51 Ishaq anthony25 ejsf sztelke dinoocch bvdk Aix_
1694 [10:04:40] <lonelywi> DEADK CANT CODE WORTH A FUCK AND HE SCARED OPAL WILL HACK HIS SHIT: dysfigured hexnewbie michaelni ephemer0l nickenchuggets nicoulaj koollman lukky513 WebDawg coruja Otyg abff cmichel ghost43 phorce1 shtirlic scoopex hex2a spanglesontoast neechan thiagoss guios gftg deetwelve skney sophiya Guest Relicka MACscr james41382 TReK ibex lkolstad Walex r3m mns Danielss89_ Ring0` Mmike t3eblinder1 Sleepy63 FabTG_ aaro Cisien Louis Kobaz dTal ptx0 kanzure Randy
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1696 [10:04:40] <bamb> EMERSON HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PUSSY BITCH: scyte Olipro Peterzen abff bardkorren thecliguy treegor MeltedLux Gm4n Hoosilon_ fauweh xingu hesperaux cmichel NoCode ChanServ HotFelonJeremyMe daniel2 cthuluh sethkush_ simon_q Nightmare jonathaN Psy-Q d1b dTal tiin57 KindOne Zharf MonsterKiller avantgardist stu_meat alexbligh1 television hessu wingman2 necrose99 sptnx ski peterrooney soahccc elik Gabemo qman__ Ceber Relicka T AJ_Z0 candidat1 ^v
1697 [10:04:40] <Guest25748> NIKO WATCHES TOO MUCH CHILD PORN TO DO ANYTHING AGAINST OPAL: NaPs mattgirv Galihom ThomasJ|d verm1n Mmike Tulah solarnetone johanbr lan_stuff thecoffemaker spik smidlers babilen kanzure Trel N3X15 {sd} neechan Peetz0r webuser5224 BotaniCar Orbstheorem Bene therock247uk neoromantique israfel fourletterword JZA smlb Apeiron` Rubin Ryushin colo-work or4n tsurko qoreQyaS Epakai hank Alam_Squeeze NoxiousPluK pixdamix banc MrAlexandr0 Bercik renzhi CurryWurst BlackPa
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1700 [10:04:41] <Me-L-i> MNIIP WANTS TO KLINE OPAL BUT HIS BOYFRIEND KLINE SAYS NO: ebarch conspacer ArchDuke tabakhase Velgor masber Hooloovo0 tomocha_ sine0 madmattco matthiaskrgr aerbax hayer cyphix Ticho Soliton nebul8 LoRez Noskcaj rozie alexbligh1 deadk ecelis TvL2386 systo verboese acperkins soee elysium hsiktas mgdelacroix BenderRodriguez zwamkat epsilon internot cmichel pfoo genpak instin debchange Nefertiti karlamrhein Hunterkll nchambers pelegreno_ _aeris_ olivetree_ Ryu
1701 [10:04:41] <Me-L-i> DEADK CANT CODE WORTH A FUCK AND HE SCARED OPAL WILL HACK HIS SHIT: spanglesontoast bo pron sdrac8 Typhon treegor rant lukky513 sphalerite debchange neoclust jhutchins DustyDingo sloucher m4dh4tt4 stu_meat limbo_ lstanley datasmurf_ roger_rabbit Puckel_ Rokixz Kamilion twisted` tonyoy vvz Comnenus AKz[ fauweh chaology klaas makz jonvonb JasonO darkstalker cliluw palinuro oberste1n dixie7z_ sdx23 CtrlC nutron jmsx RyanKnack LioneLL gr4yscale bardkorren marij
1702 [10:04:41] <Me-L-i> KLINE IS BUSY SUCKING ON OPALS NUTS TO TYPE ON A KEYBOARD (KLINE): loeken instin chownsauce askz crash_ jonvonb _systemd_is_evil thekingofbandit Clouder sdrac8 frankie chiluk Aebian Guest35499 musca peterandre Hoosilon_ j3x Alam_Squeeze alxd mvaenskae imMute nrs_ heinrich5991 azizLIGHT [red]claw tensorpudding Hooloovo0 ashka jhill Dan_au diabel_ XeonSquared canvon SleePy qoreQyaS meti snw r00ter tacocat hobbyquaker sasukeskapa nutron Masaomi[m] oojacoboo ce
1703 [10:04:41] <Me-L-i> WELL FUCHS IS A FURRY GAY QUEEN PROBABLY WHY HE IS SCARED: beaky creat bnw therock247uk otih meLon Granis APLU CodingWithClass mossman abra0 Masaomi[m] thalos ptx0 djbro tiwake tobias1 mattgirv Nefertiti frazr Mysterytrain yemel [Echelon] optraz remy mr__tea beardo Peetz0r MrHyde Arsiesys jesopo lmcloughlin mww113 heinrich5991 tiin57 Jguy CtrlC Tempesta oerheks soee nighty-- Orbstheorem maik icxcnika namix hank pokeguylow Ishaq askz ToeSnacks
1704 [10:04:41] <Me-L-i> WELL FUCHS IS A FURRY GAY QUEEN PROBABLY WHY HE IS SCARED: Artox Riku preaction jdn_ a64 MeanEYE necrogami major-t FinalX ledeni bureado ghoti phebus canvon sdrac8 suffer Walex mundus skagerak dTal jesopo icxcnika jager stoffepojken fred`` s0ph0s beardo craysiii ArlequInOut Nnavd zmachine dynek dax benj__ tiin57 DK2 peterrooney Haxxa DustyDingo Ekho limbo_ mcint bvdk sim0n37 nikolah wybczu Jamboy spik ThomasJ Enrico_Menotti
1705 [10:04:41] <undeni> WELL FUCHS IS A FURRY GAY QUEEN PROBABLY WHY HE IS SCARED: ghost43 dym ptx0 DK2 Poster SQL bvs fred`` t0ne disposable2 enki paul3 neoclust csh-harmful baba_ [red]claw Rhuarc Rothgar` Deific gftg eldritch apt oojacoboo dusares_ sobkas r00t Red_M flipp pk12 Doldge Hestben |ifei5g00d mcintosh cbmuser Spitfire tarzeau n-st k4tfish GhostInTheShell sdx23 Randy overlord_tm def_jam chachasmooth Croepha DustyDingo graingert cybrNaut zymurgy iskatu
1706 [10:04:41] <sherm17> WELL FUCHS IS A FURRY GAY QUEEN PROBABLY WHY HE IS SCARED: anthony25 Letze_ Johann MeltedLux ghormoon Namikaze madonius gusnan nyuszika7h kj4 kopper Nnavd dysfigured BlackPanx patrick` paul3 sielicki samtunez tobias1 spacework Adbray Pjusur phinxy xar- hobbyquaker spont4e Ad1Tech ecelis CapsAdmin Kobaz preaction crash_ rungcc elik Arrowmaster digilink Guest76936 bpsecret Voldenet geordi hashworks MrGeneral esaym153 hassoon {41444d
1707 [10:04:41] <lonelywi> MNIIP WANTS TO KLINE OPAL BUT HIS BOYFRIEND KLINE SAYS NO: s0ph0s ghoti beaky kmd vuser digilink datasmurf_ turfrex MobileMatt Raed zupzupper argusbr fnkr barteks2x djz88 boxrick valdyn vincent_c SwK n0p_ exezin prasket RichiH pixdamix rOss^64 dynek Amplificator lifeofguenter jackNemrod tsia RT_FM v4s- staircrusher nicoulaj miklcct_ Nik05 Swant Ishaq yepla MeltedLux peterrooney feodaron Scuttle sayo- ^v daniel2 beaver geordie pierrot HotSwap
1708 [10:04:41] <lonelywi> EMERSON HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PUSSY BITCH: neechan vectr0n|cloud Red_M christel redrabbit d1b MuffinMedic spooky r00ter mww113 preaction wizzy_ nux sophiya tugrik mastensg graingert Cueball p0g sayo- internot iskatu rafalcpp_ me1 tyler-baker cdown gvvg_ spritian fooctrl Cosmophile Zardoz bumbar NeoBlaster mistralol turfrex durg erre argusbr fury_ blingrang boser Vorpal SWAT lstanley Dan_au snkcld db` AJ_Z0 Arkaniad dos1
1709 [10:04:41] <lonelywi> EMERSON HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PUSSY BITCH: Ishaq lparmentier[m] guios xingu magenbrot rudi_s remote scyte nomad_dw tadz iViLe BiGBOi noodle SodaPhish christianpoveda hicks_ High_Priest aerbax Ceber Quantumcross thalos t3eblinder1 Arieh kri Croepha Bryanstein meLon distantorigin crdil tuv digdug_ djz88 melvin wybczu juhop dtux Ad1Tech heinrich5991 qoreQyaS JasonO netrace breitenj thinkpad AJ_Z0 nickenchuggets Digz catsup NeoBlaster Mahe mrtnt
1710 [10:04:41] <vittori> EMERSON HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PUSSY BITCH: BaW judd pingveno Gazooo woky qoreQyaS jsdk Ssquidly popnfresh RichiH JustASlacker Quantumcross Hobby_boy KNERD melvin sandeepkr pk12 notemerson petn-randall Mmike tobias1 neechan rxo [Gunner] petemc dak mirsal elysium heurist jh001 shingouz `slikts staircrusher uptime nicdev parshimers Canucktux duckydan SwK webuser5224 ChanServ hipodilski MuffinMedic Pricey atomi Mad_Hat cmichel Masaomi[m] hramrach JZTech101
1711 [10:04:41] <hou23> MNIIP WANTS TO KLINE OPAL BUT HIS BOYFRIEND KLINE SAYS NO: ijmad major-t cybrNaut inaki nick123 imMute oojacoboo saboru wooden int0x27h bureado eir RyanKnack banc martyn_h parshimers tabakhase j3x bluszcz dwar skagerak benj__ gby dinoocch her0 nathanhi Firztspawn cbmuser Purec ramshadow superkulak freanux fast niko tobias1 sukaeto N3X15 rax- gmh therock247uk vutral tiin57 lifeofguenter karstensrage kopper Bercik CyberJacob fauweh Alina-malina [nikk
1712 [10:04:41] <hou23> FREENODE IRCOPS ARE SCARED OF OPAL: ryan-c chaology baba_ craysiii obiwahn cooldude wooden Len gby sandroandrade Rokixz babilen pablo_ hicks_ aerbax JZA leibniz gnugr SkIzZaTo a RT_FM peterS peterandre AndrewMC qoreQyaS dka k_sze[work] gatekeep Cisien rotaticus vittori pingveno vOYtEC sheedy blueness Typhon Python1320 somnambler volodim fred`` loeken Robby modlin acperkins boser [Gunner] greenbagels hesperaux mr__tea JobewanKenobi
1713 [10:04:41] <hou23> DEADK CANT CODE WORTH A FUCK AND HE SCARED OPAL WILL HACK HIS SHIT: cbdev mr__tea MuffinMedic Tristan-Speccy nadersith Smuckerz nrs_ c0ded bureado blacksyke Red_M precise Riku uptime zmachine esaym153 McLive Schmiel Sabotender JasonO Otyg paradizelost Pricey adelyne Snewp lexruee a_j__c sptnx p0g0 sulvone DLange stealthii or4n k_sze[work] MrAlexandr0 leibniz DK2 lmcloughlin doogaille DrDeag rant fauweh Letze_ [nikk tdn hex2a tw bnw dudz Bryanstein
1714 [10:04:41] <moj> NIKO WATCHES TOO MUCH CHILD PORN TO DO ANYTHING AGAINST OPAL: kB` deepy damiano babilen Kobaz pingfloyd p_quarles toruvinn at0m Zauberfisch Devastator apollo13 k4tfish skney Apeiron` zmachine abracadaniel Bonn333 wybczu Hobbyboy sielicki Nnavd Pichet_ cherti SodaPhish grew a64 kevin1024 zwamkat Trel Ring0` planetmaker jssjr Poster Logg watersna BroTroxer r3m jonathaN Olipro SWAT hassoon chen sloucher spacebison Deific Alina-malina Nightmare eldritch KNERD
1715 [10:04:41] <moj> MNIIP WANTS TO KLINE OPAL BUT HIS BOYFRIEND KLINE SAYS NO: thecliguy sphalerite brainga Almtesh vuser phantomcircuit bruce549 rOss^64 hiroki phebus ongolaBoy Galihom sander85 tiin57 kevin1024 Olufunmilayo gabri_ ToeSnacks canvon apt ohithere eki seekr denken skney Johann BbT0n treegor mvaenskae geir_ alxd rednul WebDawg gacekjk Cisien raynold mirsal Namarrgon icxcnika disposable2 AndrewMC gareth__ hexnewbie elysium raidghost noodle Firztspawn BlackPanx jnes tekmo
1716 [10:04:41] <moj> DEADK CANT CODE WORTH A FUCK AND HE SCARED OPAL WILL HACK HIS SHIT: syamaoka Nomads nku Ceber qzo Haxxa Spec SWAT terr1 television scoopex israfel Jguy babilen nickle gratuxri conspacer fo palinuro zl33pyr awhitlock8 bw_ sptnx infinity_ james41382 e1z0 roger_rabbit n0p_ ebarch seekr JesseWalling sherm17 Granis OS-30663 Atlas nodauf xar- swordfischer at0m bzed r0b edwardly ongy akxwi-dave askz sobkas bgardner Frikilinux magyar me1
1717 [10:04:41] <vittori> FREENODE IRCOPS ARE SCARED OF OPAL: heinrich5991 leibniz tremolo ebarrett w0bni mnuhmnuh Louis creat anonnumberanon levifig hasdf eldebrim1 Marlon DLange kwmiebach #d michaelni hex2a matthiaskrgr flokuehn cryptic de-facto israfel berndj terr1 skagerak nkuttler webbyz InFerNo_ ujjain Gabemo peterandre XSoul notemerson LoRez lan_stuff Gurty tobias1 musca PhantomDruid nezZario pseubodot CtrlC phebus ohithere rotaticus db` sayo- Jim[m] Tr4sK
1718 [10:04:41] <sherm17> MNIIP WANTS TO KLINE OPAL BUT HIS BOYFRIEND KLINE SAYS NO: tsurko wizzy_ vivid pierrot sunkan cherti lstanley danieli nomad_dw cryptodan_mobile jnes Walex Ekho gftg zl33pyr verm1n Masaomi[m] ski likcoras datasmurf_ DarkDevil thecoffemaker hex2a Riviera webuser5224 Sri_Designer ezra-s uxfi milobit Danielss89_ thnee Mad_Hat Sciuro ogny schoppenhauer RickXy hassoon scoopex Vector3 k4tfish verboese spont4e sbeyer bfit Yugidude1 orb ep
1719 [10:04:41] <undeni> FREENODE IRCOPS ARE SCARED OF OPAL: {41444d494e} jdiez mvaenskae neechan sn0wmonster me1 SuperSeriousCat lchlan crayon cmichel blind bipul SPF yuastnav ghost43 |ifei5g00d meti Schmiel JasonO Rembo DXR Deific Nik05 gr4yscale mati bradjones obiwahn alxd verm1n sukaeto _systemd_is_evil tadz apollo13 cbmuser Hink musalbas Cueball chrissl hirow JustASlacker staircrusher creat egos rudi_s Letze_ cryptodan_mobile MrGeneral snkcld ledixus abracadaniel
1720 [10:04:41] <hou23> WELL FUCHS IS A FURRY GAY QUEEN PROBABLY WHY HE IS SCARED: Nothing4You Quantumcross AndrewMC phormulate rednul mf|cloud major-t ThoMe SleePy jelly [nikk JesseWalling opal valerius tec__ mumixam JZA dinoocch duckydan phre4k |ifei5g00d nickdastain systo c0ded greenbagels rudi_s leochill bzed Xjs|moonshine nyuszika7h ice p0rt Piggy darkstalker Immanuel HotSwap DXR verm1n geir_ sheedy inaki MuffinMedic mxh- hirow xand alprazolam Namikaze mirsal apollojustice Frikili
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1722 [10:04:41] <undeni> MNIIP WANTS TO KLINE OPAL BUT HIS BOYFRIEND KLINE SAYS NO: solarnetone Tr4sK boubou peterS hobbyquaker Vorpal idmistir N3X15 NeoBlaster snkcld sophiya JohnDoh noodle toresbe ketralnis sdrac8 apollo13 r0bby celyr typosaurus Peterzen eb0t sptnx imMute def_jam Trellmor tremolo teej soahccc crash_ gareth__ komugi JZTech101 FoolishOwl konimex Quantumcross Uberius hramrach Hobbyboy Waggie BroTroxer Amun_Ra Hobby_boy sphalerite karstensrage dave0x6d Shahnaz xar- DL
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1728 [10:04:41] <sherm17> NIKO WATCHES TOO MUCH CHILD PORN TO DO ANYTHING AGAINST OPAL: vin3 sophiya Rokixz musti boturk High_Priest BotaniCar breitenj wybczu Cipher45 catsup n-st rypervenche Zardoz Cyclohexane denken renzhi Dragon092 yen0p Benefit cybrNaut N3X15 iNs oberste1n nbags Shadowcrit bardkorren dos1 rdleon slack_ Canucktux fast nodauf deepy mdroid phebus monty evilbug guideline x-fak Nothing4You supersoju gvvg_ danieli tsurko kingsley homegrown w
1729 [10:04:41] <vittori> EMERSON HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PUSSY BITCH: jnes relaxed plicease jmcnaught deetwelve |ifei5g00d nicdev rexor catsup pk12 heinrich5991 xiqy brouette denken ramshadow Arkaniad Pjusur nomad_dw coruja obiwahn evilbug rypervenche nodauf in1t3r ptx0 Amun_Ra kevin1024 monty binaryc insidious Trellmor Peterzen larjona eldebrim1 ebarch _0x5eb_ brizz xSmurf XSoul timeless ericnoan matthiaskrgr james41382 apt Sleepy63 thiagoss bruce549 Gurty Olufunmilayo talin
1730 [10:04:41] <vittori> FREENODE IRCOPS ARE SCARED OF OPAL: RickXy WARBIRD199 piklu hasdf kh4i james41382 Typhon Deviance Deific spont4e BbT0n LioneLL grinsekatze n4cht larjona Henry151 cbdev petitor Re doyle MrDetonia tomocha_ BaW Willis donut_ Yugidude1 gftg vuser lan_stuff eldebrim1 martyn_h jdiez heinrich5991 vvande hank Hydroxide dak ultralow FinalX `slikts Mmike fauweh JustASlacker Xanthor Benefit cdown Kamilion bruce549 Peetz0r APLU
1731 [10:04:41] <vittori> EMERSON HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PUSSY BITCH: jannic `z c0ded Red_M leachim6 enki ageis candidat1 Cisien Jdbye valerius elysium sherm17 Shadowcrit tsia CrypticSquared hexnewbie ziongate Quantumcross [Echelon] ckuehl evilbug tremolo peterrooney milobit MobileMatt sulit Peterzen knx |ifei5g00d shannara LordLamer scyte _bsurfer HauM1 Piggy jonvonb jager shalok heurist rdleon sidmo_ himuraken_ popnfresh leibniz chachasmooth chownsauce gareth__ Nightmare pierrot
1732 [10:04:41] <undeni> EMERSON HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PUSSY BITCH: sorin-mihai TriJetScud |ifei5g00d trench leochill Eryn_1983_FL FabTG_ cthuluh ebarrett solarnetone nezZario Apeiron` Sleepy63 musti hayer sekjun9878 nkuttler tsia SuperSeriousCat Olufunmilayo gnumdk FinalX CyberJacob JesseWalling F14W3D SaltySolomon raynold jssjr cendo sandman13 bnw s0lar1s palinuro db` nicdev NoxiousPluK soahccc diabel_ kInOzAwA dubwoc DLange hipodilski martyn_h wjtaylor_ samtunez gr4yscale elik r00t a
1733 [10:04:41] <undeni> FREENODE IRCOPS ARE SCARED OF OPAL: Spec ThoMe hramrach tccki vectr0n|cloud pseubod tekmo eir BbT0n csh-harmful CowboyNeal GrimKriegor kuchi creat styks1987 raidghost otih BotaniCar timeless hassoon cmichel NeoBlaster Nevolution2 paulgrmn lmcloughlin xiqy Amplificator iter deetwelve toresbe TacoGS brai ejsf fast SaltySolomon michael_mbp Tsutsukakushi turfrex webuser5224 Cisien typosaurus LioneLL ceptor oerheks dym banc ketralnis jolt sielicki pawalls
1734 [10:04:41] <sherm17> NIKO WATCHES TOO MUCH CHILD PORN TO DO ANYTHING AGAINST OPAL: noexcept_ strass Granis daemonkeeper lord_helmet FabTG_ tobias1 Gurty DerLG cendo Danielss89_ SM0TVI RichiH dmarr rOss^64 Warrigal citypw churnd mattgirv dubwoc Tulah Red_M nikow kInOzAwA disposable2 vin3 mrtnt xSmurf LeandroLuiz relaxed qman__ duracrisis Jguy abff aib n0p_ ageis m4dh4tt4 beuker Amplificator dTal bove lionheartActual Freshnuts HotFelonJeremyMe CHRiSNEW
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1736 [10:04:41] <Guest46283> KLINE IS BUSY SUCKING ON OPALS NUTS TO TYPE ON A KEYBOARD (KLINE): kmd tomocha_ spritian Aebian neechan ongolaBoy oberste1n nyaomi kuchi orb doogaille makz naos62 sobkas ledeni slax0r pixdamix spacebison DustyDingo Voldenet glitch hid3 Arieh vin3 adi stu_meat netzach MrDetonia _KaszpiR_ thecliguy LeandroLuiz gacekjk CME DK2 CapsAdmin Firztspawn Namarrgon anthony25 woky r3m bruce549 tensorpudding magyar bert SkIzZaTo mcint solos Yugidude1 distantorigin BbT0
1737 [10:04:41] <Guest25748> WELL FUCHS IS A FURRY GAY QUEEN PROBABLY WHY HE IS SCARED: LoRez bezaban necrose99 aib Henry151 ikonia jsleeio crash_ j3x integral jmcnaught m712 rdleon Cabanossi nyaomi phre4k snkcld tugrik woky phar6oor NeilHanlon mumixam CapsAdmin magenbrot xar- zymurgy aaro Sri_Designer glebihan_ freakyy webbyz piklu synthmeat glebihan Letze_ ron-slc OS-30663 Galihom Aristar colo-work moufl solos Rhuarc qman__ gareth_ Gazooo neechan Nothing4You CeBe Anarchic
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1739 [10:04:42] <hou23> NIKO WATCHES TOO MUCH CHILD PORN TO DO ANYTHING AGAINST OPAL: A|TARIS hashworks Devastator ^v spacebison Python1320 M0nk3y adelyne rant redrabbit clmsy gehaxelt JyZyXEL lparmentier[m] slax0r FinalX ledeni pcdummy lru sptnx apollojustice neoromantique CHRiSNEW robotroll Firztspawn interd0me lavenders sim0n37 sveva65 spacedust smidlers ongolaBoy aindilis brimonk imMute SpeedyG Junaos nomad_dw luuh sophiya Zauberfisch mww113 NoxiousPluK lan_stuff matthiaskrgr phorc
1740 [10:04:42] <Guest46283> KLINE IS BUSY SUCKING ON OPALS NUTS TO TYPE ON A KEYBOARD (KLINE): mistralol HotSwap de teroshan SodaPhish alexbligh1 Neo k_sze[work] Vorpal w0bni sveva65 Immanuel ckuehl Arkaniad JohnDoh tabakhase sekjun9878 distantorigin cherti ongy jhutchins phre4k Python1320 xiqy |ifei5g00d iskatu Al_lA swordsmanz babilen eir ibex MyIgel vittori Savemech meti tsurko internot SpeedyG lifeofguenter ice davidebeatrici nomad_dw msb sander85 Lam Walex edd Clouder situ` abro
1741 [10:04:42] <Guest46283> MNIIP WANTS TO KLINE OPAL BUT HIS BOYFRIEND KLINE SAYS NO: Anarchic inaki esaym153 sulvone r00tobo Cueball magenbrot Gm4n magyar Nazara bionix volter lroe bpsecret lbatalha webbyz ptx0 BroTroxer stu_meat nathanhi rymax99 terr1 pseudonymous Galihom prasket FinalX AJ_Z0 _KaszpiR_ Obi-Wan jdiez Melted tensorpudding Aristar nicdev Hunterkll eldebrim1 Robby botho GTAXL Dan_au JuPaname dym nwe lstanley k_sze[work] strass ThoMe fred`` nezZario s0lar1s
1742 [10:04:42] <Guest46283> NIKO WATCHES TOO MUCH CHILD PORN TO DO ANYTHING AGAINST OPAL: mukmuk naos62 bert sandeepkr Willis mumixam nicdev eldritch sdx23 phantomcircuit xiqy dudz abra0 cybrNaut dusares_ RickXy duracrisis [red]claw Cyclohexane treegor Robby Alam_Squeeze mww113 eldebrim1 cvr adds68 linuxdaemon hagabaka CHRiSNEW abff sander85 ramshadow |ifei5g00d CowboyNeal nopf opal phormulate banging latez Warrigal w0bni n0p_ JZTech101 damiano ebarrett deetwelve mavhq Snewp plicease
1743 [10:04:42] <hou23> WELL FUCHS IS A FURRY GAY QUEEN PROBABLY WHY HE IS SCARED: sasha volodim sveva65 Masaomi[m] AlexZ_ gr4yscale s0lar1s dmarr platicus2 tiin57 pixdamix Hydroxide m4dh4tt4 Andocromn LordLamer Butt3rfly otih xand crayon obiwahn bzed cateye komugi `Kevin nwe Speed2u dTal ijmad alxd brwoods Skaag atomi kB` trench sasukeskapa tadz fred`` Orbstheorem SM0TVI Cyclohexane Louis CtrlC urzds beaky Henry151 jadesoturi GNU\colossus BotaniCar clmsy zmachine
1744 [10:04:42] <Guest46283> KLINE IS BUSY SUCKING ON OPALS NUTS TO TYPE ON A KEYBOARD (KLINE): probono jonathaN A|TARIS bert MrGeneral Vector3 major-t anthony25 ectospasm spanglesontoast webuser5224 Arsiesys Strife1989 gvvg_ motorhea SPF darkstalker lroe nebul8 lkolstad rymax99 ghost43 kh4i sobkas Ruebezahl BotaniCar homegrown chrissl Ssquidly Toris SQL JesseWalling Relicka glitch mattgirv msb nopf teroshan sorin-mihai keith4 nauticalnexus volter hobbyquaker mirsal boturk verboese im
1745 [10:04:42] <Guest46283> WELL FUCHS IS A FURRY GAY QUEEN PROBABLY WHY HE IS SCARED: Gue zululee jssjr nick123 spritian rednul mns skott {41444d494e} rypervenche Olufunmilayo etp breitenj Deviance daemonkeeper chrissl HotSwap cvr leibniz Logg hirow FinalX Junaos saboru Letze_ Stummi erre meLon bzed infinity_ obiwahn jhill anthony25 noahfx abra0 d-k dym parshimers plicease phogg churnd LeandroLuiz gonyere MrGeneral sydney_untangle yepla iter tyler-baker magenbrot staircrusher
1746 [10:04:42] <szusze> DEADK CANT CODE WORTH A FUCK AND HE SCARED OPAL WILL HACK HIS SHIT: ffernand parshimers SQL Ani- dbristow Voldenet nurupo digdug_ kriskropd nickle maik naos62 Ximensi0ns gacekjk hessu petemc Linlz mcintosh qman__ duckydan nomad_dw hayer strass gnugr LoRez Andreas33 CyberJacob petn-randall xar- xand askz bzed McLive Zerant dka jim Malinux dza frazr dixie7z_ installibre smurfd qoreQyaS MeanEYE Namarrgon roger_rabbit robotroll ice peterrooney madmattco
1747 [10:04:42] <szusze> FREENODE IRCOPS ARE SCARED OF OPAL: SpeedyG SodaPhish glebihan_ Haxxa AciD` sulvone talin Otyg Devastator grew smidlers ThoMe karlamrhein tomreyn jh001 xar- Ceber Kilo`byte reu tyl __marco probono super_gollum vvz [Brain] kini dinoocch rysiek|pl Gue blackwell hobbyquaker CME helldorado craysiii platicus2 mattgirv daniel-s Rockj Vorpal distantorigin ggherdov CyberJacob annadane Tempesta Al_lA AfroThundr verboese Groenleer cryptodan_mobile Doldge
1748 [10:04:42] <szusze> KLINE IS BUSY SUCKING ON OPALS NUTS TO TYPE ON A KEYBOARD (KLINE): Andocromn bapa lexruee Zerant RUDE SkyPatrol robotroll colttt stmiller Artox [red]claw aerbax cyboman33 CodeBlue1776 Guest35499 terr1 mzf Orbstheorem dxrt abra0 Orochimarufan enkrypt GNU\colossus KindOne SodaPhish Ximensi0ns InFerNo_ chipdalf_ lan_stuff deetwelve palinuro boturk noodle talin distantorigin skakan bradjones csh-harmful Bonn333 msb cbmuser meti osx benaiah pentiumone133 nnyby sid
1749 [10:04:42] <Guest46283> DEADK CANT CODE WORTH A FUCK AND HE SCARED OPAL WILL HACK HIS SHIT: hesperaux edd Speed2u lmcloughlin strass phantomcircuit DXR Tr4sK gratuxri Delta-One kimico nodauf alprazolam thesovere wjtaylor_ ketralnis Lxrowe brouette ectospasm timeless Dan_au martyn_h sjk durg KindOne Cosmophile _bsurfer ArchDuke spik samtunez tacocat vin3 MrGeneral benj__ tomreyn skney nchambers ws2k3 Python1320 iViLe RT_FM ashka SleePy Nomads pawalls nux Peterzen diabel_ Tempesta
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1751 [10:04:43] <szusze> MNIIP WANTS TO KLINE OPAL BUT HIS BOYFRIEND KLINE SAYS NO: swordsmanz SwedeMike blacksyke churnd sweatsuit el chiluk DustyDingo SkIzZaTo Acrisor kri shalok benj__ {41444d494e} BaW lsv_ citypw skza nick123 f DK2 zymurgy sidmo_ klow tomreyn warri therock247uk annadane jareth_ Namarrgon mundus sophiya leibniz denken p0rt Pichet_ kingsley jlacroix __3r1c__ Andocromn phaseNi raynold thesovere `z tonyoy chaology oberling luckman212 GPenguin JuPaname
1752 [10:04:43] <szusze> DEADK CANT CODE WORTH A FUCK AND HE SCARED OPAL WILL HACK HIS SHIT: Hooloovo0 luuh teclo- Lazuruz s0lar1s Sabaku thalos Sabotender Voldenet Nefertiti nezZario kevin1024 sinduck sekjun9878 soee ashka adoua p0rt abff rh10 parshimers SM0TVI zymurgy marijua Haxxa ptx0 RoyK renzhi deetwelve JustASlacker DustyDingo fatalis qzo bluszcz hexa- `slikts cef Emmanuel_Chanel sn0wmonster OS-30663 olegfusion chiluk Zauberfisch nagetier chownsauce Granis mossman edvb eleusis
1753 [10:04:43] <szusze> EMERSON HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PUSSY BITCH: Canucktux undeni tomocha_ Werring iskatu pablo_ FoolishOwl masber Snewp pcdummy PhilSliderS Orochimarufan fatalis KNERD Elirips MichaelSasser flokuehn bfit grim4593 AxForest Tsutsukakushi crayon petn-randall pinnen optraz osx gregf s0lar1s Henry151 f3bruary mumixam JesseWalling ChanServ Gabemo reu rasb XeonSquared sorin-mihai cateye precise pugfantus Ximensi0ns popnfresh adrenaline dinoocch Spec jackNemrod pfoo fstd Jdby
1754 [10:04:43] <szusze> WELL FUCHS IS A FURRY GAY QUEEN PROBABLY WHY HE IS SCARED: Typhon pron jrabe jandrusk _MMx chiluk spont4e Haudegen CEnnis91 Kamilion jgornick knidos hexa- Vector3 enkrypt ggherdov opal noexcept_ sorin-mihai Jim[m] Mahe kini sander85 Jguy moufl linuxdaemon Kilo`byte eir fury_ Bercik SkyPatrol esaym153 askz gnugr sasukeskapa Shadur knx tsurko DK2 Mikail slack_ vuser geir_ waz0wski raidsec Arieh infinity_ cyboman33 Ssquidly cusco
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1757 [10:04:43] <Guest46283> KLINE IS BUSY SUCKING ON OPALS NUTS TO TYPE ON A KEYBOARD (KLINE): lord_helmet t3eblinder1 gatekeep spik redrabbit Mikail AFNobody thekingofbandit Nnavd ^v elysium tadau Aix_ xingu watersna ashka hexhaxtron Andreas33 pelegreno_ tapout McLive blacksyke phar6oor dwar bw_ debhelper [Brain] mastensg sptnx Cisien Cipher45 ageis Nothing4You sdx23 bnw martyn_h Aebian EmleyMoor CurryWur judd boxrick yepla Xyle baba_ w0bni CodeBlue1776 Riku cvr JuPaname phormulate
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1759 [10:04:44] <Guest46283> EMERSON HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PUSSY BITCH: Ekho cvr tuv mr__tea Xanthor sheedy fauweh Randy helldorado Rockj elik Walex lonelywi EnergyCoffee xiqy relaxed SQL `slikts flokuehn Deviance stmiller Tulah Lam scoopex DJDan opal CHRiSNEW spont4e Orochimarufan x-fak lappet r00ter A|TARIS cateye lel tacocat KindOne lungaro Aebian tsia orb digdug_ heinrich5991 ebarch Neo idmistir r00tobo Tybor Clouder gby
1760 [10:04:44] <yhnkwqn> KLINE IS BUSY SUCKING ON OPALS NUTS TO TYPE ON A KEYBOARD (KLINE): Downer LambdaCalculus37 lavenders sptnx Otyg GrimKriegor Emmanuel_Chanel chipdalf_ edd zululee HugsWontletgo Riku tremolo gatekeep shahri guios joel135 phorce1 lbatalha kopper me1 Deviance Bryanstein oberste1n Shahnaz rancyd gabri_ debchange edwardly mgdelacroix edi smurfd dusares_ stackofcats stoffepojken JohnDoh alxd botho Kitty klaas planetmaker boser mpmc ChanServ Kel TheNerdisRight Xjs|mo
1761 [10:04:44] <yhnkwqn> DEADK CANT CODE WORTH A FUCK AND HE SCARED OPAL WILL HACK HIS SHIT: qman__ optraz daemonkeeper ezra-s guios or4n Rhuarc Olufunmilayo gatekeep ejsf CodeBlue1776 doogaille [Echelon] Doldge LambdaComplex hex2a msev- Tybor `z mcint Psy-Q barteks2x pcdummy alxd orb cherti Cyclohexane magenbrot LioneLL GhostInTheShell romana Sue XDS2010|AFK mrtnt colo-work Andocromn kuchi Cabanossi Johann Malinux vamiry stefanc_diff gratuxri nomad_dw neoclust jannic digdug_ Yugidud
1762 [10:04:44] <yhnkwqn> NIKO WATCHES TOO MUCH CHILD PORN TO DO ANYTHING AGAINST OPAL: Uberius nathanhi renzhi Arkaniad beaver serban tapout FabTG_ rt Louis stmiller lord_helmet lmcloughlin SuperSeriousCat exezin phinxy nyaomi raidghost raidsec vvande cthuluh Velgor sander85 azizLIGHT talin jadesoturi NoxiousPluK Sue Delta-One thnee kirb damiano olegfusion dym planetmaker fiQmob a_j__c rant SwK sydney_untangle gabri_ Downer adi nrs_ rakor grew f0x armin DrDeag RoyK
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1783 [10:05:48] <jesopo> what's wrong with furries tho
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1787 [10:06:46] <ongy> what's i? can't join?
1788 [10:07:01] <nickenchuggets> I don't get why people do that
1789 [10:07:03] <nickenchuggets> lol
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1791 [10:07:16] <danieli> damn spam bot
1792 [10:07:17] <danieli> s
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1795 [10:07:29] <jesopo> i believe it's because opal is a little whining bitch baby
1796 [10:07:33] <nkuttler> ##comment-on-spam
1797 [10:07:36] <nickenchuggets> what do you get out of it other than wasted time and effort
1798 [10:07:41] <Zardoz> people having fun with bots.
1799 [10:07:49] <k_sze[work]> Who's opal??
1800 [10:08:03] <evilbug> you may or may not reveal who is sucking on who's nuts.
1801 [10:08:04] <toruvinn> jesopo, lol at this being the first thing being said right after -m
1802 [10:08:09] <evilbug> what's life without gossip?
1803 [10:08:11] <nickenchuggets> no idea
1804 [10:08:11] <jesopo> no one important
1805 [10:08:14] <jesopo> toruvinn: :)
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1808 [10:09:16] <toruvinn> seems someone didnt get their breakfast today, though. wonder what those kids want to achieve that way.
1809 [10:09:23] <glitch> ok so the first error I get says I/O error, dev sr0, logical block 512
1810 [10:09:46] <JustASlacker> gee
1811 [10:09:53] <JustASlacker> somebody doesnt like opal
1812 [10:10:17] <kopper> glitch what youtube video you followed?
1813 [10:10:28] <toruvinn> ongy, +i is invite-only. i'm almost sure '/quote help cmode' lists the modes for you.
1814 [10:10:31] <glitch> hold on
1815 [10:10:42] <toruvinn> yes, it does!
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1817 [10:10:53] <toruvinn> (might check umode while you're at it :-))
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1820 [10:11:18] <ongy> ah, cool
1821 [10:11:21] <glitch> debian core autolog
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1826 [10:12:08] <glitch> but I'm not sure my script was %100 correct
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1833 [10:13:35] <kopper> glitch and what Debian version are you using?
1834 [10:13:43] <glitch> jessie
1835 [10:13:49] <glitch> 8
1836 [10:14:12] <kopper> And did you do what the video told you or what was included in the description?
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1840 [10:15:02] <glitch> I used the description but obviously I couldn't copy and paste
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1842 [10:16:20] <glitch> right now I'm looking at a screen that ask me to give my password for maintence or control d to continue
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1844 [10:16:44] <glitch> I know if i continue it will get stuck though
1845 [10:17:08] <glitch> I can see several error messages
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1850 [10:19:11] <EF``> sr0 is usually a portable media device like a DVD drive.
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1852 [10:21:15] <glitch_surfer> well my os is on a ssd, I do have an optical drive on the system though.
1853 [10:21:30] <glitch_surfer> this glitch btw
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1857 [10:22:12] <durg> it is best to tell us what you did and what the error messages are
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1859 [10:23:12] <glitch_surfer> it says I/O error on device sr0, logical block 512
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1862 [10:24:07] <glitch_surfer> then it says floppy0: no floppy controllers found
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1865 [10:25:25] <glitch_surfer> the error before that says end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 4096
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1872 [10:27:47] <glitch_surfer> it gives that error several times and says Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=Driver_SENSE
1873 [10:28:03] <durg> ok, but what did you do?
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1875 [10:28:31] <glitch_surfer> i just install bgfminer and configured it
1876 [10:28:46] <glitch_surfer> before I shut it off
1877 [10:29:08] <glitch_surfer> I was have trouble with the miner detecting the gpu
1878 [10:29:46] <glitch_surfer> the drivers for my gpu have been driving me crazy
1879 [10:31:12] <glitch_surfer> as to what I did regarding the instructions from the youtube video I'm not sure where i might have messed up
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1883 [10:33:39] <durg> hm sounds difficult to resolve
1884 [10:33:40] <glitch_surfer> here are the instructions i attempted to follow
1885 [10:33:45] <glitch_surfer> mkdir -p /etc/systemd/system/getty@tty1.service.d/
1886 [10:34:02] <glitch_surfer> nano /etc/systemd/system/getty@tty1.service.d/autologin.conf
1887 [10:34:45] <glitch_surfer> [Service]
1888 [10:34:49] <glitch_surfer> ExecStart=
1889 [10:35:04] <glitch_surfer> ExecStart=-/sbin/agetty --autologin sean --noclear %I 38400 linux"
1890 [10:35:10] <greenbagels> glitch_surfer: maybe it'd be best to use a pastebin service
1891 [10:35:43] <glitch_surfer> how does that work?
1892 [10:36:04] <glitch_surfer> and I obviously can copy and paste from my pc
1893 [10:36:11] <greenbagels> /msg dpkg paste
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1896 [10:38:26] <glitch_surfer> when i continue with the recovery through control d I get
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1899 [10:39:34] <glitch_surfer> [1823.023638] r8169 0000:03:00.0 eth0: link up
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1906 [10:41:00] <glitch_surfer> then [1823.023638] IPv6: ADDCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
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1912 [10:44:07] <glitch_surfer> durg: am I going to have to install from scratch? because that's going to suck.
1913 [10:45:03] <durg> from the information i got i cannot really tell what went wrong, but maybe others can help you
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1915 [10:45:20] <glitch_surfer> Plus I might just use ubuntu because there does seem to be much support for debian
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1917 [10:45:51] <glitch_surfer> *doesn't
1918 [10:46:15] <durg> well, mining bitcoins usually is not profitable anyway, unless you are in a special situation like not having to pay the electricity bill
1919 [10:46:29] <EF``> So it used to boot, you made some changes, it no longer boots?
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1929 [10:50:23] <glitch_surfer> EF: I just installed bgfminer and configured it
1930 [10:50:34] <glitch_surfer> then it wouldn't boot
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1932 [10:51:40] <EF``> Can you see what the errors are in dmesg? "sudo dmesg"
1933 [10:51:40] <rdz> what is the correct way to configure a static route when a certain interface comes up? it seems what i did in debian 8 is not working anymore in debian 9
1934 [10:51:42] <glitch_surfer> then I attempted to follow instructions from a youtube video called debian core autologin
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1936 [10:52:49] <rdz> this is the inteface configuration: replaced-url
1937 [10:52:52] <rdz> the route is not added
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1939 [10:53:44] <glitch_surfer> Ef: I'll have to reboot to do that
1940 [10:53:48] <glitch_surfer> hold on
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1942 [10:54:46] <EF``> glitch_surfer, you can undo the changes you made until it then boots. It will help you understand Linux a little more.
1943 [10:54:54] <durg> maybe you need to use ip route? not sure route is installed by default in stretch
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1946 [10:55:45] <glitch_surfer> so the end_request I get is I/O error, dev sr0, sector 4096
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1948 [10:56:12] <durg> and your interface is still called eth1?
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1950 [10:56:18] <durg> mine changed its name
1951 [10:56:20] <glitch_surfer> then Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 512
1952 [10:57:31] <glitch_surfer> I don't know the interface name I'm in root now
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1954 [10:57:52] <durg> sorry, was talking to rdz
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1956 [10:58:10] <JustASlacker> what can I do if I have a debian 9, but need software from 8
1957 [10:58:18] <JustASlacker> need a freeradius 2
1958 [10:58:18] <durg> backports
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1960 [10:58:32] <durg> sorry, misread the question
1961 [10:58:37] <JustASlacker> isnt backports the other way?
1962 [10:58:40] <durg> yes
1963 [10:58:58] <JustASlacker> :(
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1966 [10:59:47] <EF``> glitch: have you a memory stick plugged in or a CD/DVD in your drive? gtg work. Back later.
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1968 [11:00:14] <durg> what's wrong with version 3 though?
1969 [11:00:20] <glitch_surfer> EF: I agree, but it feels like trying to run before I walk
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1971 [11:00:49] <glitch_surfer> let me try
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1974 [11:02:03] <glitch_surfer> I did have a disk in the dvd what command do i use to restart?
1975 [11:02:19] <rdz> durg, thanks.. yes the interface is actually eth1, because we added kernel params to grub to use old iface names
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1985 [11:06:44] <glitch_surfer> EF: I disconnected dvd drive and I no long have those errors, but I still won't boot
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1993 [11:08:18] <glitch_surfer> it says IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
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2002 [11:13:30] <durg> rdz: can you check if the route is added when you bring the interface up with ifup?
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2007 [11:15:34] <glitch_surfer> When I try to boot all I get is a cursor
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2015 [11:17:56] <guoruei> lol
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2018 [11:19:19] <durg> guoruei: maybe a problem with grub, your bootloader.
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2020 [11:20:03] <guoruei> durg: what ?...how can I do ?
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2035 [11:25:43] <guoruei> help? I new install debian and install kvm ,,,,I set br0 ,,,after that I run debian my nameserver do not work
2036 [11:27:08] <guoruei> I have do
2037 [11:27:08] <guoruei> sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
2038 [11:27:08] <guoruei> nameserver 8.8.8.8
2039 [11:27:08] <guoruei> is any one like me ?
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2046 [11:29:05] <guoruei> is debian 9....
2047 [11:29:05] <guoruei> in my debian 8 is not happen
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2062 [11:37:20] <sn0wmonster> is there a time tracking program for Debian? (something that can be used for keeping track of the hours i begin and end working on my machine)
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2065 [11:37:41] <JustASlacker> probably thousands
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2067 [11:38:34] <sn0wmonster> i'm looking for something as simple as a time clock with a start and stop, nothing about project management or any more complicated than just a clock-in, clock-out log
2068 [11:38:44] <sn0wmonster> i imagine this can be done from a batch file?
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2070 [11:39:03] <sn0wmonster> shell script rather :D
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2072 [11:40:17] <guoruei> u can see at system log
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2074 [11:41:12] <JustASlacker> sn0wmonster: replaced-url
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2076 [11:43:19] <guoruei> o...nice
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2102 [11:50:07] <rafalcpp_> opal: lol why everyone is scared of you
2103 [11:50:34] <rafalcpp_> I wish spamers would do something useful with such revolt. Like remind us systemd is cancer that needs to be removed
2104 [11:51:26] <bazhang> rafalcpp_, thats not topical here
2105 [11:51:38] <guoruei> ...o
2106 [11:51:41] <bazhang> try #debian-offtopic
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2111 [11:53:05] <rafalcpp_> sn0wmonster: afair there was program named hammster something
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2113 [11:53:27] <rafalcpp_> hamster-applet - time tracking applet for GNOME
2114 [11:53:57] <guoruei> Time Tracker 2.91.3
2115 [11:54:06] <guoruei> Project Hamster — track your time
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2118 [11:54:13] <guoruei> Copyright © 2007–2010 Toms BauÄŁis and others
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2121 [11:55:09] <metaphysician> Why is Debian not recommended for those interested in SELinux?
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2140 [12:03:20] <metaphysician> Or is it?
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2142 [12:04:45] <guoruei> SELinux license ?
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2145 [12:05:23] <guoruei> is GPL ?
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2147 [12:06:46] <sn0wmonster> guoruei, thank you, i was under the impression that was a web-connected service you paid for
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2149 [12:07:17] <sn0wmonster> JustASlacker, nice thank you!
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2164 [12:13:01] <JustASlacker> ^_^
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2214 [12:35:21] <sanjarkhan> replaced-url
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2216 [12:35:27] <sanjarkhan> any suggests for this topic ?
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2226 [12:37:46] <sanjarkhan> or any guide for installing nvidia proprietary ?
2227 [12:37:58] <sanjarkhan> when i install it i getting black screen on gdm3
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2229 [12:38:06] <sanjarkhan> i can't access to gui
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2238 [12:40:50] <kopper> This doesn't work? replaced-url
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2241 [12:41:11] <sanjarkhan> nope
2242 [12:41:19] <sanjarkhan> i tried for 3 times
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2282 [12:56:45] <lablcd6> Is this processor compatible with Debian 8.6 LIDE 64-bit software: replaced-url
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2300 [13:03:10] <petn-randall> lablcd6: What is LIDE?
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2302 [13:03:42] <lablcd6> Sorry, I mean LXDE.
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2304 [13:04:56] <d3bugged> i seem to be having no network card in ifconfig after this debian jessie install on a lenovo
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2306 [13:05:03] <d3bugged> g50-80
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2308 [13:05:13] <petn-randall> lablcd6: That looks like a 32-bit CPU to me.
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2310 [13:05:41] <petn-randall> lablcd6: So you could use the i386 installer on it.
2311 [13:06:03] <petn-randall> d3bugged: Any reason you're not using the stable stretch release?
2312 [13:06:08] <d3bugged> no, mine is a 64-bit. i used the debian cd image but while installation i am pretty sure i was connected to usb0, because of which i was online while installing
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2316 [13:06:30] <Ashraf> hi
2317 [13:06:58] <petn-randall> d3bugged: Those messages beginning with "lablcd6:" where meant for that user, not for you.
2318 [13:07:00] <d3bugged> i have the debian cd one, my data limit everyday is 1 gig so i have to look into it while downloading an image
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2320 [13:07:18] <d3bugged> ah right. sorry. i'm new to irc
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2322 [13:08:31] <lablcd6> Thanks, petn-randall. That's what I thought as well, but was hoping I was wrong. =)
2323 [13:08:40] <Ashraf> how can i transfer from a system to another in kali
2324 [13:09:34] <d3bugged> whut?
2325 [13:09:52] <d3bugged> @Ashraf: what exactly do you mean?
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2330 [13:12:26] <d3bugged> if you need your kali on another machine, i do stupid things like 'cat /dev/sda>/dev/sdb'
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2371 [13:37:33] <petn-randall> Ashraf: You will have to ask in the Kali channel, this is the wrong channel for it.
2372 [13:37:39] <petn-randall> !kali
2373 [13:37:39] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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2378 [13:39:36] <dieggsy> Is there any way to use lightdm to launch an i3 xession from a _local_ i3 executable? (the use-case is it's installed with nix) I ran minimal install with no DE
2379 [13:39:45] <nix64bit> I am getting an error using npm and I read I need to update node, is there a new ppa for node? what is the latest method?
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2382 [13:40:15] <petn-randall> nix64bit: PPAs are Ubuntu-only. Are you running Ubuntu?
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2385 [13:40:31] <nix64bit> i am on debian
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2390 [13:41:25] <D_bugged> i'm d3bugged. just fucked up my irc install
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2407 [13:47:10] <tw> dieggsy: how is the local part relevant? lightdm and i3 are not running on the same computer?
2408 [13:47:34] <dieggsy> tw: sorry, local is the wrong word. I meant it's installed in userspace. (or at least it's symlinked in userspace)
2409 [13:47:43] <dieggsy> tw: it's in user set $PATH
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2411 [13:48:00] <dieggsy> ^ i think that's the bit that's getting me
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2416 [13:48:48] <Groenleer> Anyone who could tell me how we could raise more wareness for a bug? Especially: replaced-url
2417 [13:48:49] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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2419 [13:49:17] <tw> I can't recall if debian uses .xsession. I seem to recall being corrected about this before.
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2422 [13:49:40] <dieggsy> tw: oh, are you implying i'd have to set the path in .xsesssion(rc)?
2423 [13:49:49] <tarzeau> tw: afaik it's used when using startx
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2425 [13:50:26] <tw> Nah, .xsession is specifically from launching from a DM.
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2429 [13:50:45] <tw> dieggsy: just exec the i3 binary at the end of your .xsession and it'll load that.
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2432 [13:50:57] <tw> You won't get to select your session or anything, but it'll exec i3.
2433 [13:51:12] <tw> And a quick grep of /etc/X11 says yes, it is used.
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2438 [13:53:15] <dieggsy> tw: huh. I'll try that. I suppose I don't need to select xsession anyway, it's my only environment
2439 [13:53:26] <tw> .xinitrc is the startx one.
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2444 [13:54:14] <durg> hi
2445 [13:54:54] <abrotman> dpkg: .xinitrc
2446 [13:54:54] <dpkg> The optional customisation script ~/.xinitrc is used for running X as startx, and ~/.xsession is for when using X from a Display Manager like xdm or kdm. .xinitrc is discouraged in Debian, as if you just use ~/.xsession it will work from both startx and the display manager, as documented in startx(1).
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2453 [13:56:02] <dieggsy> tw: cheers, that seemed to work.
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2462 [13:58:25] <OnkelTem> Hi. One of my collegues experiences strage problems with a docker image (based on Debian Jessie) which works perfectly on my Linux host. We could narrow down the issue to this command: "su -c bash developer" -- on my host the subshell is launched under developer use, while on his machine it stays under root. And he gets no error messages
2463 [13:58:34] <OnkelTem> Do you have any ideas why su might not work?
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2465 [13:58:54] <OnkelTem> (We execute that su command inside the container)
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2471 [14:00:25] <slax0r> OnkelTem: why not just "su - developer" ?
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2473 [14:01:00] <slax0r> and afaik you can attach to the container with that specific user in the first place
2474 [14:01:06] <slax0r> no need to go in as root and then switch to the user you want
2475 [14:01:18] <OnkelTem> slax0r: that didn't work in the first place
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2549 [14:23:36] <dieggsy> quick question: is debian stable the most likely or quickest to get security updates? i've heard various things
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2551 [14:24:03] <matrix_architect> dieggsy, yes
2552 [14:24:21] <cybrNaut> anyone know which browsers support SOCKS 4a, if any?
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2554 [14:24:55] <dieggsy> matrix_architect: is there any "downside" to stable? I've seen people complain that it's "out of date" but fail to see how that's relevant when one can pretty much install whatever
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2556 [14:25:28] <dieggsy> er, not the OS but the programs? meh.
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2558 [14:26:00] <matrix_architect> dieggsy, softwares in debian is old, but they gets security updates
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2578 [14:30:34] <petn-randall> We prefer the term "well-tested". :)
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2583 [14:31:29] <jack--> hi everyone, I installed debian a few days ago. After installing it I installed multiple desktop environments such as KDE plasma, which is now my default DE. I'm experiencing a strange problem, this morning after starting up the system and logging in, the windows titlebars and such had disappeared. This happened a few days ago too, and every time I have to restart to get the window titlebars back. Does anyone have any idea why this is happening or what the
2584 [14:31:29] <jack--> problem could be?
2585 [14:31:42] <FinalX> debian is a release-distro, if you want bleeding-edge software, go for a rolling distro
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2589 [14:33:25] <dieggsy> FinalX: unless you install bleeding-edge with a platform "independent" manager like nix or linuxbrew, in which case it doesn't really matter, no?
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2591 [14:33:52] <FinalX> it matters a lot
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2595 [14:34:38] <FinalX> debian's security team will keep your current software version secure, as opposed to god-knows-what-the-third-party-does
2596 [14:34:54] <matrix_architect> jack--, uncheck "allow applications to block compositing" in compositor settings
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2599 [14:35:36] <dieggsy> FinalX: sure, my point is if you wanted your base OS/defaults to be secure, but wanted to experiment with bleeding edge, this would be an option
2600 [14:35:37] <FinalX> i you don't like the nature of debian, then what's the point in running it? pick something else that suits your needs better. we use it on over a thousand servers.
2601 [14:35:55] <relaxed> sid is the best rolling release, imo
2602 [14:35:58] <jack--> matrix_architect: Ok I did it. Is it a common issue?
2603 [14:36:19] <FinalX> you shouldn't be mixing packages from stable and unstable/testing. if you want to use bleeding-edge versions of specific software, make sure you use said software's repositories. not a third-party one.
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2605 [14:36:32] <matrix_architect> jack--, it was happening to me when using mov player full screen
2606 [14:36:37] <matrix_architect> mpv*
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2608 [14:36:51] <FinalX> (or use things like docker/lxc so you can experiment freely without messing up your host system)
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2610 [14:37:00] <durg> props to the security team, they are awesome
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2613 [14:37:10] <jack--> matrix_architect: ok, I see, thanks!
2614 [14:37:47] <durg> latest wpa vulnerability was fixed superfast
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2619 [14:39:10] <FinalX> durg: yeah, unlike on macs... :)
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2621 [14:39:30] <FinalX> we banned macbooks from our wifi for the time being
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2623 [14:41:04] <durg> i was sweating a little while waiting for the fixed wpasupplicant and hostapd packages of other distros to roll in
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2625 [14:41:31] <durg> oh, i am surprised, they sure have enough money to take care of that
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2627 [14:41:40] <durg> i mean it was all over the news
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2632 [14:42:55] <durg> but actually it should be enough to fix the access point to make the connection secure iirc
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2635 [14:43:53] <durg> because both parties have to accept the already-used keys
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2637 [14:44:21] <koollman> the largest exploitable vulnerability was on linux/android
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2639 [14:44:46] <koollman> but, yeah, apple is not fast to patch security
2640 [14:45:25] <durg> yes that is true, partly because they actually implemented it the way it was supposed to be.
2641 [14:45:37] <koollman> so far I think there's only microsoft and various linux distributions that have really patched the client side
2642 [14:45:49] <koollman> still waiting for google and apple
2643 [14:45:53] <durg> but the reset-the-password-to-zero thing was really awful
2644 [14:45:53] <FinalX> and microsoft had a messed-up implementation of wpa2 that was non-standard and therefore not affected as much :P
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2647 [14:46:27] <koollman> of course, those are tiny companies that cannot afford to put much workforce on ... wait. did I say google and apple ? :)
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2650 [14:46:50] <FinalX> I think it's very strange Apple didn't fix it yet, because they're always quite fast rolling out high-security things to iOS-devices.
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2654 [14:49:01] <koollman> same for google. And it was disclosed much earlier than that to 'important companies'. Which I assume include google/ms/apple (but maybe not)
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2657 [14:49:31] <durg> maybe private investigator companies :-)
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2661 [14:50:04] <koollman> I mean, openbsd was contacted and released the patch on the initial planned embargo lift
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2663 [14:50:08] <FinalX> yeah, our partner is a modem/router manufacturer and they weren't informed at all, so they had to wake up first after the news and were only then able to start working on a fix
2664 [14:50:14] <koollman> so it's hard to think apple and google did not know
2665 [14:50:14] <FinalX> so panicking customers and such.
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2668 [14:50:44] <FinalX> and there's the fact that older hardware won't receive firmware upgrades
2669 [14:51:02] <koollman> FinalX: maybe they should try to work with cert coordination center
2670 [14:52:27] <durg> they should at least tell their customers and encourage them to get a new device, they are actually quite cheap
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2673 [14:52:42] <koollman> it's the principal way to get information before official disclosure. Which helps a lot to plan releases/upgrades before everyone's panicking
2674 [14:53:04] <FinalX> durg: point is that we never really know about the much older devices, because they're not configured to talk to our ACS
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2676 [14:53:15] <FinalX> durg: newer devices all talk to our ACS, so we can identify them
2677 [14:53:51] <durg> ah, i see
2678 [14:53:56] <durg> yes, that is a problem
2679 [14:53:57] <koollman> I'm now looking at old stuff, and the krack vulnerabilities were notified as early as 15 july to some ... and august to many more
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2681 [14:54:11] <koollman> so 'panic now' is pretty strange
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2683 [14:55:08] <koollman> at the very least it was technically published on 30 august (by openbsd)
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2685 [14:55:34] <durg> which actually wasn't cool, because malicious people know how to make diffs
2686 [14:56:34] <koollman> durg: it was the planned release date
2687 [14:56:52] <tw> not sure what you're looking for there. Open source packages commit to public version control.
2688 [14:56:55] <koollman> other vendors delayed it, and openbsd disagreed
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2691 [14:57:17] <koollman> (or rather, did not agree to anything more than the first planned disclosure date)
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2694 [14:57:45] <koollman> durg: they waited for 45 days. it's pretty long already
2695 [14:58:00] <koollman> err. no. more than that
2696 [14:58:03] <koollman> I can't math
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2699 [14:58:32] <koollman> nah, 45 is about ok. that's already a pretty long time for a security exploit
2700 [14:58:44] <durg> alright, but it also is a pretty serious bug
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2704 [14:59:49] <durg> on the other hand this got me interested in trying out openbsd myself
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2707 [15:00:07] <tw> initial disclosure to vendors was may 19. So they waited 103 days.
2708 [15:00:14] <durg> they claim they had '2 holes in the standard install since forever', i wonder if this is actually true
2709 [15:00:23] <grimsley> Does vanilla Debian no longer handle setting static ip address in /etc/network/interfaces ??
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2711 [15:00:38] <koollman> durg: it is. they're pretty serious about it :)
2712 [15:00:42] <tw> Probably true, but there's not a lot of useful in the standard install.
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2714 [15:00:52] <koollman> one of the 'trick' is that there's not much at all in the standard install
2715 [15:01:36] <koollman> durg: it's because it's a serious bug that anyone should fix it quickly. And wpa_supplicant, openbsd, microsoft, and a few other vendors, managed to fix it
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2719 [15:02:02] <koollman> durg: apple and google have still not pushed their fix (apple did publish betas, but that's not the same)
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2721 [15:02:15] <koollman> it's way, way too long
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2725 [15:03:15] <durg> yes, i agree to a point
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2728 [15:03:46] <durg> it must be incredibly stressful if you fixed a bug want to release the patch, but others just keep on taking their time
2729 [15:03:54] <durg> *and want
2730 [15:04:01] <tw> iirc, hostap on linux is patched as well.
2731 [15:04:09] <durg> yes
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2734 [15:05:40] <koollman> durg: and, reasonnably, google and apple have 'slightly' more available manpower than openbsd
2735 [15:06:12] <durg> yep
2736 [15:06:21] <tw> goog doesn't have the release timeline to make it work. openbsd can push a patch to end users, as can apple. goog cannot.
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2738 [15:06:29] <koollman> nothing that would justify delaying for two or more additional months (google announced probably release 5 november. then there will be every smartphone vendor adding delays)
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2740 [15:07:03] <koollman> tw: why would google be unable to do so ?
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2743 [15:07:19] <durg> there also must be people at google and apple going nuts about it
2744 [15:07:33] <durg> because they don't hire the worst
2745 [15:07:33] <koollman> I suppose so. They do have many security teams
2746 [15:07:51] <koollman> but they have also ... strangely opinionated devs :)
2747 [15:08:02] <koollman> (as do other projects. but they have a lot of influence)
2748 [15:08:13] <shtrb> Can anyone see if they can access bugs.debian.org ? (I'm getting timeouts on tls handshake)
2749 [15:08:16] <FinalX> most devs are strangely opinionated :)
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2754 [15:08:38] <FinalX> shtrb: seems broken here as well
2755 [15:08:40] <tw> koollman: say they published it in september, how long do you think it'd take to get to end users?
2756 [15:08:43] <shtrb> Thanks
2757 [15:08:50] <shtrb> FinalX thanks
2758 [15:09:02] <FinalX> oh, it does work, just .. very, very slow
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2760 [15:09:14] <koollman> tw: I do not know. pretty fast for some, at least. But they will publish in november. so, same problem, with more delay
2761 [15:09:22] <FinalX> shtrb: it 302's to replaced-url
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2763 [15:09:50] <shtrb> thanks
2764 [15:09:50] <koollman> pretty much instant for 'current google flagship' and previous 3 models I guess (since you can upgrade them with vanilla android images)
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2766 [15:10:11] <tw> koollman: I can tell you I'm still missing the Sept. security patch on my S7.
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2771 [15:10:35] <koollman> tw: but whatever the answer is, it would probably reach users faster if it's released faster. Wouldn't it ?
2772 [15:11:02] <panga> Hello team, there is a way to block an IP address on Debian?
2773 [15:11:02] <koollman> tw: yeah, but then samsung is responsible for this additional delay, not google
2774 [15:11:03] <tw> Oh probably. I don't think they could develop a fix and deploy it to end users in the 90 day standard release lead time.
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2776 [15:11:21] <tw> panga: iptables can be used to drop it.
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2783 [15:11:56] <koollman> tw: they absolutely can develop and publish. Deploying is not their problem in most cases.
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2788 [15:12:53] <koollman> tw: consider wpa_supplicant or hostap project. If they had delayed the publication, it would have also delayed debian (or someone would have tried to patch it without understanding as much of the project as upstream)
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2790 [15:12:58] <tw> Going into super offtopic land here, but the only mesure that matter are fix date vs exploit example code release date. And they can't guarantee that for android.
2791 [15:13:01] <panga> tw: like iptables -A INPUT -s IP-ADDRESS -j DROP ?
2792 [15:13:20] <koollman> tw: But they are pretty much guaranteeing added delay so far
2793 [15:13:23] <tw> panga: just so. You may need to specify protocol, but I think it'll take it as is.
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2795 [15:13:37] <durg> panga: yes, for input traffic
2796 [15:13:55] <koollman> tw: they could have released it the day of the disclosure, and let other vendors take the blame if they were not ready (they should have been ready too)
2797 [15:14:01] <koollman> tw: but they did not. So I blame them
2798 [15:14:20] <durg> if that's the only thing you use iptables for
2799 [15:14:33] <koollman> tw: samsung is also not a small company, and should also be working on releasing security upgrades way faster :)
2800 [15:14:55] <durg> the rule will be inserted at the end of the other rule, use -I to insert it at the very beginning
2801 [15:15:10] <durg> *other rules
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2804 [15:17:26] <durg> is there a pattern/reason we are missing?
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2818 [15:25:57] <panga> tw: there is a way to block all connections with out shutdown the server theither lost my connection?
2819 [15:26:21] <tw> panga: You're going to have to be more specific about what you want to do.
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2828 [15:27:29] <panga> tw: my lan is saturated we are loosing services, I need to keep my ssh connection with my computer and the debian server but algo I need to block all the traffic from other servers
2829 [15:28:20] <durg> panga: are the servers on another common subnet?
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2831 [15:28:45] <durg> the ones you want to block
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2833 [15:29:16] <panga> durg: I just asked to the network administrator
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2838 [15:29:54] <panga> he say me there is a vlan
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2841 [15:30:26] <tw> panga: if the server is being flooded, there's nothing you can do. If it's serving requests of some sort, you can shut down that service as an easy way to stop it.
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2843 [15:30:49] <tw> panga: if you only want to allow the one machine, add an ACCEPT rule before your DROP rule.
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2845 [15:31:15] <panga> tw: yeah... there is no option then, I will shutdown the machine
2846 [15:31:43] <durg> i think that is not what he said
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2863 [15:36:42] <tw> It's not what I intended, though I suppose that would definitely work. I'm not sure how you will fix whatever's wrong with it if it is down.
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2878 [15:40:27] <durg> if the servers have ips between 1.1.1.0-1.1.1.255, you can drop traffic coming from them by 'iptables -I INPUT -s 1.1.1.0/24 -j DROP'
2879 [15:40:39] <durg> just make sure you do not lock yourself out
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2886 [15:44:32] <panga> Thank you durg I'll try that by now the server is down
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2890 [15:45:15] <durg> panga: alright, problem solved for now :-)
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2896 [15:48:27] <panga> durg: Yes :) but I don't know what I'll do when I power on the server again haha
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2909 [15:52:34] <Rembo> how can i rsync a local folder(including files and subfolders) to another remote server folder?
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2914 [15:54:28] <slax0r> Rembo: rsync over ssh, probably
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2916 [15:54:45] <panga> Rembo: rsync -rave ssh /home/local/ root@10.24.0.1:/home/remote
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2918 [15:55:06] <slax0r> might also want "ssh -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null"
2919 [15:56:34] <panga> Be careful with the slash at the end, rsync has different behavior with /home/remote or /home/remote/
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2923 [15:57:52] <shtrb> slax0r why without the magic c ?
2924 [15:58:07] <slax0r> shtrb: hu?
2925 [15:58:10] <tw> on debian, the default transport for rsync with a user@host: prefix is ssh.
2926 [15:58:20] <shtrb> slax0r , to enable compression
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2931 [15:58:45] <slax0r> shtrb: panga suggested the full comman ;)
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2934 [15:59:41] <shtrb> slax0r , I don't think his option use compression either
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2936 [16:00:15] <slax0r> shtrb: no it does not, I gust suggested to add options to skip ssh host checking
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2940 [16:01:45] <shtrb> I see , I just say that having compression enabled would be useful (if not on the same network)
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2995 [16:23:25] <comrad> hi there
2996 [16:23:53] <comrad> i try to create a debian package of a python application but the package keeps containing a directory /usr/lib/python2.7, can anyone tell me why?
2997 [16:23:57] <comrad> it is a python3 app btw
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3041 [16:35:25] <sever> #flood
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3055 [16:38:01] <Onepamopa> Any ideas on how to install sendemail on debian 4.9.51-1? apt-get shows E: Unable to locate package sendemail
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3058 [16:38:18] <relaxed> you mean sendmail?
3059 [16:38:26] <Onepamopa> sendemail
3060 [16:38:29] <Onepamopa> not sendmail
3061 [16:38:37] <Onepamopa> meaning this one: replaced-url
3062 [16:38:46] <Unicorn437> so debian really doesn't seem to like my graphics card, it keeps getting stalled upon booting. I'm using debian 9, and a r9 390 GPU, which is supported by the radeon module
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3064 [16:39:16] <relaxed> Onepamopa: did you run "apt-get update" first?
3065 [16:39:20] <Onepamopa> relaxed, did that
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3068 [16:39:50] <relaxed> Onepamopa: "apt-cache show sendemail" shows it on my Sid machine
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3070 [16:40:25] <Onepamopa> root@debian:~# apt-cache show sendemail
3071 [16:40:26] <Onepamopa> N: Unable to locate package sendemail
3072 [16:40:26] <Onepamopa> E: No packages found
3073 [16:40:26] <Onepamopa> root@debian:~#
3074 [16:40:26] <Onepamopa> ]
3075 [16:40:26] *** Onepamopa was kicked by debhelper (flood. Please use replaced-url
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3077 [16:40:34] <Onepamopa> damn
3078 [16:40:38] <Satou> Hello everyone, I have a script that i want to run every time i boot up, but sometimes it just doesn't work
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3080 [16:40:45] <Onepamopa> so not really showing as u can see ..
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3082 [16:41:13] <Onepamopa> relaxed, any other ideas
3083 [16:41:14] <Onepamopa> ?
3084 [16:41:15] <Unicorn437> Onepamopa, use paste.debian.net if you want to post logs
3085 [16:41:23] <Onepamopa> Unicorn437, got that already thanks
3086 [16:41:34] <Satou> What i did is put the script in init.d and made it executable, sometime it runs, sometime it doesn't. It's a simple script that uses macchanger to change my mac adress
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3088 [16:42:48] <relaxed> Onepamopa: apt-get update; apt-cache show sendemail
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3095 [16:43:29] <relaxed> Onepamopa: if that fails, make sure your /etc/apt/sources.list is setup correctly
3096 [16:43:43] <Onepamopa> relaxed, replaced-url
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3098 [16:44:15] <Onepamopa> This is all I've got in sources: replaced-url
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3103 [16:45:52] <relaxed> Onepamopa: are you trying to install it over the network or from the DVD?
3104 [16:46:00] <Onepamopa> haven't used debian in a long while
3105 [16:46:04] <Onepamopa> doubt things have changed that much
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3107 [16:46:13] <Onepamopa> relaxed, network obviously
3108 [16:46:16] <Onepamopa> haven't changed anything
3109 [16:46:20] <Onepamopa> this is a fresh install from the provider
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3111 [16:46:23] <Onepamopa> just logged in
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3113 [16:46:28] <Onepamopa> and did apt-get update
3114 [16:46:39] <relaxed> Onepamopa: replaced-url
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3120 [16:47:10] <Onepamopa> right now explain this to a 8 years bsd user that hadn't touched debian in 8 years
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3124 [16:47:32] <Onepamopa> why does a fresh install require changing sources list ?
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3128 [16:48:17] <relaxed> apt-cdrom add sendemail
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3131 [16:48:37] <Onepamopa> will that actually "fix" the sources list when other software needs installing
3132 [16:48:44] <Onepamopa> or will require doing apt-cdrom every time ?
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3134 [16:49:18] <Onepamopa> cause I've got a lot of things that need installing
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3136 [16:49:52] <khyrthy> Hello
3137 [16:49:58] <relaxed> Look, I didn't set up your debian box. Read the wiki, understand what's going on and fix it yourself
3138 [16:49:59] <JustASlacker> you only need to fix sources once
3139 [16:50:03] <FinalX> Onepamopa: try something like this instead: replaced-url
3140 [16:50:09] <Onepamopa> relaxed, I didn't set it up either
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3143 [16:50:20] <FinalX> Onepamopa: seems you might've picked the wrong image to install from, that puts the cd/dvd line in the sources
3144 [16:50:21] <relaxed> I know you didn't
3145 [16:50:26] <khyrthy> How i make for create an account on MX Community ?
3146 [16:50:26] <Onepamopa> I expected a working debian VPS
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3150 [16:50:39] <Onepamopa> same way it works when I got a bsd VPS
3151 [16:50:46] <Onepamopa> not requiring any shitty changes
3152 [16:50:51] <FinalX> well people here hardly are related to your VPS-provider
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3155 [16:50:57] <FinalX> complain at your VPS-provider, then
3156 [16:51:09] <Onepamopa> FinalX, true but still they installed this, why and how is it broken
3157 [16:51:10] <Onepamopa> ?
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3159 [16:51:18] <Onepamopa> will it break the same way if I install it ?
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3161 [16:51:29] <FinalX> see my answer above your question; choosing the wrong image to install from in the first place
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3166 [16:51:58] <FinalX> if you do a proper network install, it'll ask which mirror you wish to install from during installation, and that's used after installation as well
3167 [16:52:09] <FinalX> but this was installed from a dvd image instead, so it keeps the dvd as source.
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3170 [16:52:21] <FinalX> adjust the sources file and it'll work just fine.
3171 [16:52:33] <FinalX> apt-get update; apt-get upgrade # and done.
3172 [16:52:33] <Onepamopa> FinalX, so you say if wrong ISO is used to install debian it will break
3173 [16:52:37] <Onepamopa> thats good news..
3174 [16:52:40] <Onepamopa> that never happeened on bsd ..
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3176 [16:52:45] <FinalX> what has that to do with debian?
3177 [16:52:50] <JustASlacker> not it means not setting mirrors during install
3178 [16:52:57] <FinalX> you can install from whatever source you want, and it'll remember that source
3179 [16:53:02] <Onepamopa> FinalX, so the provider used an ISO for sh*tos-fork-debian.iso ?
3180 [16:53:14] <Onepamopa> or they used an actual debian iso ?
3181 [16:53:24] <Onepamopa> following what you said ...
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3183 [16:53:28] <FinalX> how the hell are we supposed to know what someone else does?
3184 [16:53:32] <FinalX> maybe they built their own
3185 [16:53:37] <Onepamopa> well it says "debian" ...
3186 [16:53:40] <JustASlacker> why is this an issue at all
3187 [16:53:41] <Onepamopa> what else is it supposed to be ?
3188 [16:53:44] <FinalX> so does the channel name
3189 [16:53:47] <JustASlacker> your problem is fixed
3190 [16:53:58] <FinalX> doens't mean this channel will install debian..
3191 [16:54:00] <Onepamopa> JustASlacker, it is, what I want to know is why was there a problem to begin with
3192 [16:54:02] <JustASlacker> if you want to see what happens if you install debian, why not install it yourself
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3194 [16:54:10] <Unicorn437> so my radeon module works neither with Gnome nor XFCE, Gnome causing it to stall, and XFCE causing flickering on/off in weird artifacts. Should I post a picture somewhere? I really don't have any idea on how to work around it
3195 [16:54:14] <Onepamopa> has someone head of something like this happening after install, for example >
3196 [16:54:15] <Onepamopa> ??
3197 [16:54:19] <JustASlacker> or watch a youtube video
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3200 [16:54:51] <Onepamopa> coz you know if something's broken... its good to know
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3203 [16:55:24] <FinalX> If you download a DVD-image of Debian and you install from DVD-media, the default source for package installations will be the DVD you installed from. Simple logic. If you wish to install from a network source, you'd use the network ISO, or you choose a network install from the installer and configure the mirror to install from during the installation process. Then future packages also come from that mirror.
3204 [16:55:26] <FinalX> If you installed using the DVD and want to install packages over the network instead, change your package source.
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3208 [16:55:49] <Onepamopa> FinalX, thats not the case with bsd, nor it was the case few years ago when I last installed debian
3209 [16:55:53] <FinalX> Either way, quit bitching and whining on how BSD is different just because you don't know what the heck you're doing while we're trying to help. I'm done helping here.
3210 [16:56:26] <Onepamopa> and yes I installed from a freaking DVD, my sources were fine
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3214 [16:56:31] <somiaj> Onepamopa: that is how the dvd/cd install media has worked for years. Though there should be an option to add internet sources during the install, the cd sources will still be installed.
3215 [16:56:31] <Onepamopa> nothing needed adjusting
3216 [16:56:47] <Onepamopa> somiaj, so if I write the DVD iso to a usb and install it'll be alright ?
3217 [16:56:55] <Onepamopa> thats odd ...
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3220 [16:57:15] <somiaj> Onepamopa: if your hardware needs non-free firmware, you won't get internet sources no matter what media you install from.
3221 [16:57:22] <Onepamopa> its true it's been a few years since I last touched debian but hell... it was alright then
3222 [16:57:28] <Onepamopa> I installed from a lot of different sources
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3226 [16:57:32] <Onepamopa> dvds cds usbs
3227 [16:57:35] <somiaj> but modifing the sources is not that hard, there are lots of resions why this would need to be done after the install.
3228 [16:57:39] <Onepamopa> never had to adjust the sources
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3230 [16:57:43] <Onepamopa> it worked fine
3231 [16:57:46] <Onepamopa> so now something got changed
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3233 [16:57:59] <Dreaman> Onepamopa you ar bulgarian or
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3235 [16:58:10] <Onepamopa> somiaj, yes its not that hard, especially when before all sources were listed in that file
3236 [16:58:19] <Onepamopa> now all I've got are 3 iles
3237 [16:58:29] <Onepamopa> lines*
3238 [16:58:29] <somiaj> Onepamopa: that part has been the same for years. We cannot guess what the vps did, but if you are say only have wifi internet that requires non-free firmware. That won't be avaialbe during the install, y ou will have to update your sources.list after you get the firmware on the machine and the network working.
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3243 [16:58:54] <Onepamopa> somiaj, which is why debian / ubuntu has had netinstalls for years
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3245 [16:59:02] <Onepamopa> best way to install it
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3247 [16:59:10] <somiaj> Onepamopa: what I said still applies to the net install
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3253 [16:59:58] <Dreaman> i not install new debian error install
3254 [17:00:16] <Dreaman> not start instaletion
3255 [17:00:19] <Onepamopa> Dreaman, good for you my indian friend :)
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3257 [17:00:33] <Dreaman> hahah i am Bulgarian
3258 [17:00:41] <Onepamopa> same applies
3259 [17:00:54] <Dreaman> ino-european
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3262 [17:00:58] <Dreaman> indo
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3266 [17:01:29] <Onepamopa> anyway, such unneeded changed weren't necessary few years ago
3267 [17:01:33] <Onepamopa> changes*
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3272 [17:04:06] <somiaj> Onepamopa: it depends, this is a very common thing for those who have non-free network hardware.
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3274 [17:04:48] <Onepamopa> well I guess I'd better brush-up on the latest debian changes
3275 [17:04:59] <somiaj> this is not a recent change.
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3277 [17:05:09] <Onepamopa> somiaj, did I say I recently used debian? :)
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3279 [17:05:22] <darxmurf> hi all
3280 [17:05:57] <Onepamopa> somiaj, I've last used 6-7 years ago so ...
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3284 [17:06:44] <lroe> I swear this is a notation for ping6 that allows you to use, I think a '%' at the end of the destIP to specify the source interface, but I cna't find docs on it
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3291 [17:09:18] <d0uglas> Hi guys! Running stretch, would like to use the new version of kdenlive but that's tied to sid now. What's the safest way to do this, to grab the deb and all its dependencies (many of which are also tied to sid) and gdebi the thing, or to build everything from source? not eager to break anything..
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3303 [17:13:26] <relaxed> d0uglas: I would build from source and install to a non-standard location
3304 [17:13:45] <relaxed> d0uglas: apt-get build-dep kdenlive
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3308 [17:14:01] <d0uglas> relaxed: build-dep!
3309 [17:14:03] <d0uglas> thanks
3310 [17:14:17] <d0uglas> thought so regarding source
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3313 [17:14:51] <shtrb> d0uglas , check debian-kde maybe there is a receipe for you
3314 [17:14:54] <shtrb> #debian-kde
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3317 [17:15:30] <d0uglas> #debian-kde, sounds like my new home
3318 [17:15:38] <d0uglas> thanks as always gents
3319 [17:15:49] <shtrb> on oftc
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3321 [17:16:34] <prasket> Why do people keep mentioning stacks of users?
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3325 [17:19:13] <darxmurf> I have a weird issue still with this mount.cifs of a windows 10 share on a debian stable machine. When I mount it using vers=3.0, some folders are not listed but I discovered this now
3326 [17:19:18] <darxmurf> replaced-url
3327 [17:19:32] <darxmurf> when I force the ls it works and I can access it too and list the content Oo
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3329 [17:19:45] <darxmurf> there is no problem when I mount.cifs with vers=1.0
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3333 [17:20:46] <theseb> how PREVENT iphone icons from appearing on desktop when charge phone?
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3341 [17:25:18] <darxmurf> charge it on an electric plug :-)
3342 [17:25:22] <darxmurf> and it's faster
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3347 [17:25:45] <shtrb> what's an iphone icon debian ?
3348 [17:25:47] <shtrb> and what DE ?
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3360 [17:29:13] <theseb> shtrb: gphoto2 gets activated apparently when i plug in iphone on ubuntu 16.04
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3363 [17:29:58] <shtrb> !ubuntu
3364 [17:29:58] <dpkg> Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
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3368 [17:30:38] <shtrb> And what you describe is default as camera or MTP
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3373 [17:33:12] <theseb> shtrb: what is MTP? how control what happens when a usb device connected...sounds like i need to somehow declare gphoto to NOT get activated yes?
3374 [17:34:25] <latez> this is typically controled ON the device
3375 [17:34:44] <latez> you can set your phone to how you'd like it to respond when plugged in, MTP is one of the options
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3377 [17:34:49] <latez> as is 'Storage Device'
3378 [17:34:53] <shtrb> theseb but first move to debian :)
3379 [17:35:17] <theseb> latez: ah thanks
3380 [17:35:22] <theseb> shtrb: i like debian
3381 [17:35:43] <shtrb> but you are using ubuntu ..
3382 [17:35:53] <shtrb> <theseb> shtrb: gphoto2 gets activated apparently when i plug in iphone on ubuntu 16.04
3383 [17:36:16] <Dreaman> mint is not ubuntu but
3384 [17:36:19] <Dreaman> same
3385 [17:36:36] <shtrb> mint is even more evil
3386 [17:36:38] <shtrb> !mint
3387 [17:36:38] <dpkg> Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at replaced-url
3388 [17:36:54] <theseb> shtrb: how does lubuntu fall in the evil hierarchy
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3390 [17:37:28] <theseb> shtrb: regarding usinb ubuntu...i like debian but it just seemed easier to follow the crowd and use the flavor of the month....btw..i think slackware is awesome too
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3393 [17:37:57] <Dreaman> clean final debian not start install is a jocke
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3397 [17:39:00] <Dreaman> ext2 errorr
3398 [17:39:43] <ConfusedLama> i have a question regarding a ipsec client setup on a debian box/windows box, its properly more related to network than debian, but the strongswan channel is rather inactive (few days checking now) and i dont exactly know where to ask. Would it be okay if i gave it a try here ?
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3405 [17:41:06] <Guest88803> hey all. anyone know why the files in /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/ aren't sourced by default in /etc/bash.bashrc on debian stretch?
3406 [17:41:22] <Dreaman> replaced-url
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3408 [17:41:33] <Dreaman> change
3409 [17:41:45] <Dreaman> link download iso
3410 [17:41:53] <Dreaman> to install in my laptop
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3412 [17:42:11] <Dreaman> work 2 video cards 2 hdd
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3416 [17:42:38] <Dreaman> stretch my laptop
3417 [17:42:47] <Dreaman> see parameters
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3423 [17:43:52] <Riku> I need a 3.x.x version of python-pil but there doesn't seem to be one available at all in debian 9.2
3424 [17:43:59] <shtrb> I'm just saying that if you are using anything other than debian it is hard to help you
3425 [17:44:00] <mtn> Dreaman, what is your error? if more than 2 lines, paste to paste.debian.net
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3428 [17:44:15] <Riku> I had 3.4.2-1~bpo8+1 from jessie-backports before
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3432 [17:44:48] <shtrb> theseb , if you like we can block on debian itself the assoiation (how to treat mtp ) but that can be an overkill
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3435 [17:45:18] <theseb> shtrb: yes! how?
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3437 [17:45:47] <shtrb> step 1 install debian
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3441 [17:46:25] <Dreaman> mtn usb netinstall iso
3442 [17:46:28] <Dreaman> not start
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3444 [17:46:40] <Dreaman> usb
3445 [17:46:46] <petn-randall> !enter
3446 [17:46:47] <dpkg> The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
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3450 [17:47:16] <shtrb> step 2 tell us if you did any action to setup MTP or camera
3451 [17:47:27] <Dreaman> ok
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3455 [17:48:29] * Riku shrugs
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3457 [17:49:11] <petn-randall> ,v python-pil
3458 [17:49:12] <judd> Package: python-pil on amd64 -- jessie: 2.6.1-2+deb8u3; jessie-security: 2.6.1-2+deb8u3; jessie-backports: 3.4.2-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 4.0.0-4; buster: 4.3.0-1; sid: 4.3.0-1
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3463 [17:50:18] <petn-randall> Riku: You could try installing the version from jessie-backports again, but it might be safer to just install the v3 via pip.
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3477 [17:57:28] <Riku> petn-randall: I was able to install pillow 3.4.2 from pip but when I try to apt install the package that wasn't working with the newer pillow it still tries to apt install python-pil 4.0.0-4
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3496 [18:06:23] <petn-randall> Riku: That's why you remove the apt package, and just use the one installed from pip.
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3500 [18:07:10] <petn-randall> Riku: pip is a specific method to install python things. It doesn't know about nor does it touch the apt packaging system.
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3504 [18:10:17] <Riku> yes but apt was trying to just install the broken version anyway as a dependency to the software I was using
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3509 [18:11:18] <petn-randall> Riku: What piece of software are you using?
3510 [18:11:23] <petn-randall> !apt
3511 [18:11:24] <dpkg> Advanced Packaging Tool (APT) is a package management system used by Debian and its derivatives. APT is a C++ library of functions that are used by several command line programs for dealing with packages, notably apt-get, apt-cache, and aptitude and, from Debian 8 "Jessie" onwards, apt. See also <aptitude> <apt-get>, <apt-cache>, <apt myths>.
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3514 [18:11:52] <petn-randall> Riku: The above info would also be relevant for the software you mean.
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3516 [18:13:46] <Riku> minecraft-overviewer, not from debian repos
3517 [18:13:53] <Riku> I think I've fixed it
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3548 [18:26:38] <awal1> how can I call 'apt-listbugs' during simulated installations?
3549 [18:27:43] <Dreaman> replaced-url
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3558 [18:31:50] <Dreaman> net install no internet
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3562 [18:32:52] <shtrb> Dreaman , does that work in English installation ?
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3564 [18:33:14] <Dreaman> framework
3565 [18:33:17] <Dreaman> smoe
3566 [18:33:31] <Dreaman> not exist
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3571 [18:33:59] <Dreaman> some not exist in installetion iso of my laptop
3572 [18:34:21] <shtrb> missing firmware ?
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3574 [18:34:36] <shtrb> you can download iso with firmware (non offical )
3575 [18:34:47] <Dreaman> hah
3576 [18:34:52] <Dreaman> ok
3577 [18:35:01] <shtrb> dpkg firmware non offical cd
3578 [18:35:02] <dpkg> shtrb: bugger all, i dunno
3579 [18:35:09] <shtrb> dpkg firmware
3580 [18:35:09] <dpkg> Firmware is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace, notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>. replaced-url
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3587 [18:36:07] <Dreaman> not network ond connect to internet adn i download firmware
3588 [18:36:10] <Dreaman> good ide
3589 [18:36:15] <Dreaman> idea
3590 [18:36:17] <awal1> dpkg: firmware image
3591 [18:36:18] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See replaced-url
3592 [18:36:34] <shtrb> thanks awal1 I was searching for that
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3594 [18:37:45] <shtrb> Dreaman try installing only in English at first (it's hard to tell what you choose there )
3595 [18:37:59] <Dreaman> ok
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3607 [18:44:07] <Dreaman> and 1 day serh drivers and repos no thanks
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3609 [18:44:14] <Dreaman> search
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3611 [18:44:24] <Dreaman> no work
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3613 [18:44:35] <Dreaman> but i extreem idea
3614 [18:44:39] <shtrb> was that after an unoffical cd ?
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3616 [18:45:37] <Dreaman> my my system parameters work is only clean debian final
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3618 [18:45:47] <Dreaman> 9
3619 [18:46:06] <Dreaman> i stop chating this i a jocke
3620 [18:46:41] <Dreaman> 2 hdd 2 videocards
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3623 [18:47:46] <Dreaman> large distro in the world
3624 [18:48:12] <Dreaman> is not working
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3626 [18:48:27] <shtrb> some blasphemy but have you tried a live cd or installing from debian testing ?
3627 [18:48:42] <shtrb> and can you describe the exact error (your video did not have any error )
3628 [18:49:26] <Dreaman> i try not work
3629 [18:50:24] <shtrb> please describe what you have tried and what did not work
3630 [18:50:38] <shtrb> We are debian but we can't read minds yet (no driver for that )
3631 [18:51:33] <Dreaman> install aut of network
3632 [18:51:38] <Dreaman> and
3633 [18:51:45] <Dreaman> no internet
3634 [18:52:06] <shtrb> You are failing to install without network access ?
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3636 [18:52:30] <Dreaman> is a network install iso
3637 [18:52:39] <Dreaman> usb stick boot
3638 [18:52:43] <Dreaman> rufus
3639 [18:52:51] <Dreaman> creat
3640 [18:52:58] <shtrb> network install mean it has the bar minimum while you need network access to install the rest
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3642 [18:53:06] <Dreaman> yes
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3644 [18:53:20] <shtrb> and the net install is rarly have non free firmware (which you may need to activate a network card)
3645 [18:54:14] <Dreaman> mhm
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3647 [18:54:33] <shtrb> That is why I suggest to you to try a unofficial cd (one that has some firmware) or debian testing (newer debian than stable )
3648 [18:54:55] <Dreaman> ok
3649 [18:55:00] <Dreaman> thanks
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3651 [18:55:41] <Manki> Hi
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3654 [18:56:56] <Manki> Can I make Debian use different kernel in proot?
3655 [18:57:28] <shtrb> chroot or actually the arch process ?
3656 [18:57:43] <Manki> chroot
3657 [18:58:20] <Manki> I don't really know the difference
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3659 [18:58:39] <shtrb> I think you can use different kernels while in chroot
3660 [18:58:45] <shtrb> proot is just a different thing
3661 [18:59:41] <Manki> ok
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3669 [19:03:29] <Manki> replaced-url
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3674 [19:06:04] <shtrb> Manki , do you need to have a different kernel **running** in the chroot ?
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3677 [19:07:01] <SpeedyG> Hi, i'm trying to create a preseed file for automatic install on several VMs. Some VMs have sda disks, others have vda disks. is there a way to use one file for both types of disks? right now, grub installation fails if 'the other type of disk' is present..
3678 [19:07:02] <Manki> yes. Debian needs to use different kernel
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3682 [19:07:47] <shtrb> Manki , as in different proc , different kernel modules loaded etc ?
3683 [19:08:10] <Manki> yes
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3685 [19:08:51] <Manki> Is it hard?
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3694 [19:10:28] <shtrb> It depends on your goal, can you share it ?
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3697 [19:11:33] <Manki> I have an old version of kernel currently. I want to use the latest kernel in a Debian installation in chroot.
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3706 [19:14:06] <shtrb> Depending on how old your system is (there are backports) you can install "newer" kernels on older systems and even build a kernel on your older system (build-dep would be a start ) , switching a kernel might be possible with kexec
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3711 [19:15:39] <SuperTramp83> Manki: just add backports and install it
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3719 [19:17:31] <Manki> I'll check out kexec
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3721 [19:17:49] <shtrb> It is better to have backports
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3727 [19:19:10] <Manki> Supertramp83: I can't change the kernel of the whole system tho because newer kernels are not supported
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3731 [19:19:52] <shtrb> B A C K P O R T S
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3737 [19:21:25] <Manki> ok
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3739 [19:22:02] <shtrb> wheezy-backports still being updated (If I read correctly)
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3772 [19:33:49] <Manki_> I'm using Jessie
3773 [19:34:25] <shtrb> jessie-backports works
3774 [19:34:28] <shtrb> *exist
3775 [19:35:01] <Dreaman> replaced-url
3776 [19:35:50] <shtrb> What I'm looking at ?
3777 [19:36:06] <Dreaman> 8u video
3778 [19:36:13] <Dreaman> 8k
3779 [19:36:18] <Manki_> ok
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3781 [19:36:36] <shtrb> ubuntu ?!?!?!
3782 [19:36:43] <friendzoner> what does it mean when someone says that version of an os is no longer supported?
3783 [19:36:49] <Dreaman> debian
3784 [19:36:53] <Dreaman> :)
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3786 [19:37:31] <jhutchins_wk> friendzoner: Depends on the context.
3787 [19:37:33] <mtn> friendzoner: no updates for the software and sometimes the repos are completely gone
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3789 [19:38:28] <friendzoner> oh so when i like do something like apt-get update/install package it wont work?
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3791 [19:38:52] <jelly> friendzoner: it won't fetch any more security patches after the end-of-life point
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3795 [19:39:34] <friendzoner> security patchs..you are now killing me man! i mean im using stretch right now i do i get those!
3796 [19:39:36] <jelly> all the software is frozen, forever, and after a while the repositories are usually gone into an archive of some sort
3797 [19:40:05] <friendzoner> oh
3798 [19:40:17] <jelly> friendzoner: stretch is the current release of Debian, it's still supported.
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3800 [19:40:54] <jelly> perhaps explain the context.
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3804 [19:41:30] <friendzoner> okay i read that. but what about the security patches you just mentioned?
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3809 [19:42:35] <jelly> friendzoner: that was a general comment on what your "version of an os is no longer supported?" might mean
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3812 [19:42:46] <jelly> and the implications thereof
3813 [19:42:53] <friendzoner> oh
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3822 [19:43:31] <jelly> it was an answer to your question. That's what you sometimes get when you ask a question.
3823 [19:43:41] <Paul--> hello
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3825 [19:44:04] <jelly> Paul--: hi there.
3826 [19:44:05] <jelly> !ask
3827 [19:44:05] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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3833 [19:45:12] <Paul--> One site ( paypal) recognize me with private window in firefox ( I deleted all cookies , and I change my IP ) , how is it possible _?
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3835 [19:45:47] <Paul--> I understand with proprietary OS as win or OSX , but under debian
3836 [19:46:12] <shtrb> Paul-- , flash or local storage
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3838 [19:46:50] <shtrb> Check with a brand new user
3839 [19:47:00] <Paul--> I'm using firefox ESR 52.3.0 (64-bit) , and I don't love site tracking
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3841 [19:47:07] <jelly> ,v firefox-esr
3842 [19:47:08] <judd> Package: firefox-esr on amd64 -- jessie: 45.9.0esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.1.0esr-1~bpo80+1; jessie-proposed-updates: 52.4.0esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 52.4.0esr-1~deb8u1; stretch: 52.4.0esr-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 52.4.0esr-1~deb9u1; wheezy-security: 52.4.0esr-2~deb7u1; buster: 52.4.0esr-2; sid: 52.4.0esr-2
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3845 [19:47:37] <shtrb> Paul-- , check with a brand new user (after IP change)
3846 [19:47:47] <Paul--> shtrb, flash cookies ? I haven't flash plugin installed ( I hate flash ) , what do u mean as local storage ?
3847 [19:47:51] <jelly> or just a separate firefox profile.
3848 [19:48:13] <jelly> I have no idea what "private window" in firefox does.
3849 [19:48:16] <shtrb> It's easier to have a different user than a firefox profile this days :)
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3851 [19:48:48] <jelly> it's not THAT hard to run "firefox --ProfileManager"
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3854 [19:50:09] <shtrb> Paul-- , local storage is another way to store data on your PC (assuming it's not really cookies )
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3859 [19:51:08] <candidat> hello guys
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3864 [19:52:13] <Paul--> shtrb, what is local storage ? the site read the files in my /home/... ?
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3870 [19:53:35] <Lopez_12> ciao
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3872 [19:53:41] <shtrb> It's a method to store data
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3876 [19:54:05] <Paul--> shtrb, store where ? give me more information pls
3877 [19:54:15] <Paul--> I hate the site tracking
3878 [19:54:29] <SuperTramp83> Paul--: maybe your fingerprint is unique. Do you happen to have a peculiar set of fonts installed or a weird monitor resolution etc.. Javascript can get a looot of info about your hardware, and quite often identify uniquely the user..
3879 [19:54:49] <shtrb> Paul-- replaced-url
3880 [19:55:16] <shtrb> there is also the E-TAG mechanism that allow to identify you (if the browser is still up )
3881 [19:55:50] <Paul--> SuperTramp83, so It's fault of javascript ? I know the convas rendering in html5 , is it the problem ?
3882 [19:56:08] <SuperTramp83> there's a website that may interest you.. browserleaks or something
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3884 [19:56:44] <shtrb> Paul-- , Not a problem , just a way to do it
3885 [19:57:05] <SuperTramp83> yeah, this one replaced-url
3886 [19:57:21] <SuperTramp83> you can see there how much js can get...
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3888 [19:57:46] <Paul--> it's impressionant the tracking tecniques in the modern web
3889 [19:58:08] <Paul--> more than big brother in 1984
3890 [19:58:30] <N3X15> Yeah, it's handy for web analytics. Piwik is an excellent tool for gamedev since it shows screen resolution and browser
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3892 [19:58:58] <SuperTramp83> Paul--: 99% of them, I'd say, rely on javascript.. I highly recommend noscript if this concerns you
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3894 [19:59:17] <bapa> SuperTramp83: I'm of the impression that no matter how I try to anonymize myself online, some information will *always* leak. Be it finger-printing, server-side logs, or "muh privacy" addon not being ahead of the clever ways people are finding ways to uniquely identify and track you.
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3897 [20:00:22] <SuperTramp83> bapa: it appears attack is easier than defense indeed, and big money is big money..
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3899 [20:00:44] <candidat> it s magic
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3905 [20:02:01] <shtrb> will png hash be consistent accross browsers ?
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3909 [20:03:29] <Fajito> hi all o/
3910 [20:03:29] <Fajito> I'm trying to get the grgsm package working on my debian8. I actually don't know very much about pybombs. During the installation, I get an error related to alsa installation : "Unable to fetch recipe alsa"
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3923 [20:08:55] <cro_> hey guys.. ehm, pls dont be mad if i ask in the wrong channel.. i saw a few red lines in my dmesg that i cant explain.. i hope there is someone who can explain that failures to me -> replaced-url
3924 [20:09:10] <cro_> (it's a webserver with software raid)
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3933 [20:15:35] <Fjorgynn> jaså
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3941 [20:19:23] <zodd> cro_, have you checked the -o options for ufs in the man page?
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3944 [20:20:15] <zodd> sda1 seems to be bombarded with mount attempts of various fs and is not happy with it
3945 [20:20:29] <cro_> zodd: nope. For what do i need ufs? isnt it only for usb flash drives?
3946 [20:20:30] <cro_> :x
3947 [20:20:55] <zodd> usb falsh drives are usually vfat
3948 [20:21:12] <zodd> *flash
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3951 [20:21:35] <cro_> oh sorry, misleading wiki link. It's only planned ..
3952 [20:21:51] <cro_> ill read man ufs -o. Have to go :) thanks , maybe im questioning tomorrow
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3955 [20:22:47] <Paul--> usb flash drive usually are vfat ( by default) , but it's possible change it with another file system with fdisk , cfdisk or parted
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3959 [20:26:33] <Fajito> How do you "extract" a valid git url repo from something like this replaced-url
3960 [20:26:57] <Fajito> All I can see is summaries, list of commit, etc.
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3962 [20:27:06] <shtrb> drop the ;a=summery (if it answers)
3963 [20:27:07] <Fajito> I need a valid link to git pull
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3965 [20:27:14] <Fajito> shtrb: It doesn't
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3971 [20:29:43] <towo`> Fajito, git clone git://git.alsa-project.org/alsa-lib.git
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3973 [20:33:02] <Fajito> towo`: oh boy
3974 [20:33:06] <Fajito> it worked.
3975 [20:33:20] <Fajito> I guess my mistake was HTTP instead of GIT
3976 [20:33:24] <Fajito> god damnit.
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3978 [20:33:34] <Fajito> thank you for the answer
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4013 [20:47:37] <kvoz> I have these two crontab entries: replaced-url
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4015 [20:49:33] <frostschutz> kvoz, something in the environment missing? what happens if you redirect output for that?
4016 [20:49:36] <ghormoon> hi, any idea how to start debuging what is bugged, if killing xfreerdp makes the laptop inresponsive to input, but mouse works? I can't click anything, write anything, even can't switch to another VT, but can move mouse, sleep and wake it by power button, ... no idea if the faulty thing is xfreerdp, Xorg or xmonad and I didn't notice anything interesting in journal :( (too bad it happens only in work so I can't try to ssh into the laptop. maybe I'll
4017 [20:49:41] <ghormoon> need to install some win VM to try it home :( )
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4020 [20:50:56] <kvoz> frostschutz, hm good idea. Now I see "Starting virtual private network daemon: client failed!". I wonder why though, would like more info than that
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4055 [21:10:01] <kidney_thief> hi, is there any xserver-xorg-video-intel version that does not randomly freeze uppon resume from hibernation?
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4078 [21:23:49] <kidney_thief> anyone knows where to get latest xserver-xorg-video-intel from git? the one in unstable is still trash, hopefully someone @ intel fixed their messy driver D:-<
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4082 [21:25:55] <well_laid_lawn> have a look at man intel - you probably don't need SNA
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4092 [21:28:17] <candidat> man i want to hack a woman brain, how do i do that ?
4093 [21:28:38] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o greycat
4094 [21:28:48] <greycat> Please stick to Debian questions here.
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4097 [21:28:59] <candidat> greycat, ok sir
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4112 [21:33:10] <candidat> greycat how do you change a X server display number ?
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4115 [21:33:18] <candidat> to use x2x
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4117 [21:33:49] <greycat> you specify the display in the x2x invocation. You don't "change" the display.
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4119 [21:33:54] <kidney_thief> well_laid_lawn: thanks
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4125 [21:35:06] <kidney_thief> well_laid_lawn: just installed the lates deb from ubuntu (git20170309, so it's 1 year younger than the one in testing). it seems to work. any caveats I might encounter? will try disabling this sandybridge thing :)
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4128 [21:35:26] <wallbroken> hi folks
4129 [21:35:27] <greycat> When I used it from HP-UX to Debian, I used this function (on the HP-UX machine): x2x() { ssh -f -X wooledg x2x -west -to :0 -resurface; }
4130 [21:35:41] <well_laid_lawn> kidney_thief: none that I know of
4131 [21:35:41] <wallbroken> we are encountering problems in starting openvpn
4132 [21:35:44] <wallbroken> can you help me?
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4142 [21:38:10] <candidat> greycat, right, let me try
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4144 [21:38:17] <candidat> i mean let me test it
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4153 [21:42:33] <kidney_thief> well, latest drivers from intel still fail, will try disabling sna
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4155 [21:42:39] <annadane> wallbroken, sure, but be more specific. it just doesn't load from the login screen?
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4157 [21:42:47] <annadane> oh, openvpn, i misread that as openbox
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4159 [21:43:02] <annadane> well, if it's openvpn then give us your console output if you have any (paste.debian.net, not here)
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4168 [21:46:35] <wallbroken> annadane it's a systemd related problem
4169 [21:47:46] <candidat> doesnt work :-(
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4181 [21:51:53] <annadane> wallbroken, not enough detail
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4184 [21:52:30] <frikinz> Hi! I have a directory called '*' (without quotes) in a smb share. How am I supposed to delete it? :)
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4189 [21:53:15] <greycat> get to a unix shell, and VERY CAREFULLY try rm -i '*'
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4191 [21:53:17] <frikinz> rm -rf '*' doesn't raise any error, yet directory is still ther :/
4192 [21:53:32] <greycat> oh, it's a directory. in that case, rmdir '*'
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4195 [21:54:13] <frikinz> rmdir: failed to remove '*': No such file or directory
4196 [21:54:32] <greycat> you need to figure out what the actual name is, because apparently it's not *. Try ls -b maybe.
4197 [21:54:37] <frikinz> drwx------ 2 lke 4242 0 août 27 09:16 *
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4199 [21:54:57] <frikinz> good idea
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4201 [21:55:07] <greycat> it could have trailing whitespace, etc.
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4204 [21:55:19] <frikinz> I don't find in rm how to delete by inode number
4205 [21:55:49] <greycat> probably use find for that
4206 [21:56:32] <frikinz> find: './*': Not a directory
4207 [21:56:34] <frikinz> interesting
4208 [21:56:50] <greycat> find . -inum NNNN -delete -prune
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4215 [21:58:31] <frikinz> find . -depth -inum 11395082 -delete -prune
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4217 [21:58:42] <frikinz> not a directory 8-)
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4219 [21:59:32] <shtrb> frikinz are you sure that the correct inode number and you are not on NFS ?
4220 [21:59:37] <shtrb> or something like that
4221 [21:59:40] <kidney_thief> well_laid_lawn: thanks, removing sna seems to fixed the issue :)
4222 [21:59:53] <well_laid_lawn> well done
4223 [21:59:58] <frikinz> shtrb: unfortunatly(?) not nfs and inode is given by ls -id
4224 [22:00:11] <greycat> I should have been more explicit: get to a unix shell ON THE SERVER where the directory actually resides, not on a Samba client or anything like that.
4225 [22:00:45] <greycat> ls -dib *'*'*
4226 [22:00:55] <frikinz> lstat("*/", 0x7ffda1191460) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
4227 [22:01:13] <shtrb> and if you have bash and can access the top directory you can use compilation to delete
4228 [22:01:24] <greycat> tab completion
4229 [22:01:25] <kidney_thief> well_laid_lawn: I think the card might be failing with sna during hibernation and this causes the restore to fail - when moving to uxa a dependant custom screenlocking systemd service started working again. on san it jumped straight to hibernation
4230 [22:01:37] <greycat> assuming the * is actually the FIRST character...
4231 [22:01:46] <frikinz> greycat: I can't get to the server, it's a modem/router that I hire with integrated NAS.
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4233 [22:02:15] <greycat> ls -dib *'*'*
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4236 [22:03:05] <shtrb> Did you try rm \*<TAB> ?
4237 [22:03:38] <shtrb> and <TAB> mean click on tab to get tab completion ?
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4241 [22:04:41] <frikinz> shtrb: yes, it returns no error but the dir is still there lol
4242 [22:04:45] <frikinz> let's remount
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4244 [22:06:05] <frikinz> still there... makes my slk client fail :( I suspect there's also something with permissions
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4247 [22:06:35] <shtrb> is it a real shell or some kind of simulation ?
4248 [22:07:03] <greycat> ls -dib *\**
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4250 [22:07:39] <shtrb> maybe there is something like * but inserted in a different language ?
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4252 [22:07:54] <frikinz> let's change from konsole to xterm, won't do harm
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4260 [22:09:53] <shtrb> and what about rm -r \*/ ?
4261 [22:10:02] <frikinz> greycat: yeah same inode number.
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4264 [22:10:27] <frikinz> shtrb: no such file or dir
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4266 [22:10:39] <shtrb> This mean the folder is not called '*'
4267 [22:10:47] <shtrb> maybe some space or something like that
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4269 [22:11:00] <greycat> frikinz: WHAT DOES THE FUCKING ls COMMAND ACTUALLY PRINT
4270 [22:11:14] <shtrb> lol
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4272 [22:11:23] <frikinz> lol erm you won't like it
4273 [22:11:23] <shtrb> also what FS
4274 [22:11:24] <frikinz> *
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4278 [22:12:01] <frikinz> cifs with loads of options... maybe too many
4279 [22:12:02] <greycat> See, you're lying and it's not helping you OR us.
4280 [22:12:18] <greycat> there is no way that ls -dib *\** or ls -dib *'*'* printed only a *.
4281 [22:12:19] <frikinz> greycat: what you mean lying? you're funny sometimes :)
4282 [22:12:42] <frikinz> greycat: you shouted ls
4283 [22:12:52] <greycat> ls -dib *"*"*
4284 [22:13:21] <greycat> You know, the command I have asked you to run at least 5 times now.
4285 [22:13:33] <greycat> I've presented it three different ways so far.
4286 [22:13:44] <shtrb> it shoudl be something like : ls -dib *'*'*
4287 [22:13:45] <shtrb> 980413 *
4288 [22:13:46] <frikinz> 11395083 *
4289 [22:13:46] <frikinz> 0000000 3131 3933 3035 3338 2a20 000a
4290 [22:13:47] <frikinz> 0000013
4291 [22:14:53] <shtrb> why there is an extra space ?
4292 [22:15:12] <shtrb> dir name is '* '
4293 [22:15:17] <greycat> he's using 16 bit hex numeric interpretation for some reason, instead of 8 bit
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4295 [22:15:54] <frikinz> I'm showing what debian od -x shows...
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4297 [22:16:00] <greycat> od -t x1
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4300 [22:16:31] <greycat> I have no idea why it defaults to multibyte integers. Stupid history, I guess.
4301 [22:16:32] <shtrb> no , I'm talking about 2a20 (meaning a * and a space aftr it )
4302 [22:16:49] <greycat> shtrb: it's backwards because it's 16 bit ints on a little endian arch
4303 [22:16:51] <frikinz> like all dirs
4304 [22:17:10] <greycat> just use od -t x1 instead of od -x
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4306 [22:17:25] <frikinz> I already checked that, there's no extra space
4307 [22:17:58] <greycat> apparently you cannot touch this directory via your SMB client implementation. tough luck for you.
4308 [22:18:18] <frikinz> greycat: yeah, I'll try from another client
4309 [22:19:23] <frikinz> debian stable btw
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4311 [22:19:46] <frikinz> thanks anyway, I was wondering if I didn't miss something obvious
4312 [22:19:47] <shtrb> server or client ?
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4314 [22:20:08] <frikinz> client, I don't know about server details, only that it runs linux
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4318 [22:20:52] <frikinz> actually that replaced-url
4319 [22:21:10] <frikinz> samba 3.0.37
4320 [22:21:49] <shtrb> oh shit , I have bad news for you
4321 [22:22:22] <frikinz> suspense
4322 [22:22:45] <shtrb> I had an older model of the freebox , it's a piece of systemd type of thing
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4325 [22:23:13] <shtrb> If that the one given by the ISP
4326 [22:23:46] <frikinz> yes
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4333 [22:28:26] <frikinz> shtrb: "piece of systemd" :D
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4336 [22:30:39] <shtrb> If the new version is anything like the old ones expect for lot of fun when you install debian (and that wonder sits in your network)
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4340 [22:32:03] <frikinz> it's actually much better than most other ISP things...
4341 [22:32:05] <zzla> hey
4342 [22:32:17] <zzla> looking for a tool to monitor my router logs
4343 [22:32:22] <frikinz> anyway... it also has an ftp server
4344 [22:32:23] <shtrb> I'm not talking about the ISP , only abot the device itself
4345 [22:32:33] <zzla> something that might display different log entries in different colors, depending on the severity
4346 [22:33:03] <shtrb> zzla , are you searchig for journalctl ?
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4348 [22:34:29] <shtrb> firkinz , I think there was an ssh and telnet access to the system
4349 [22:34:45] <frikinz> shtrb: no no, no ssh or telnet
4350 [22:35:01] <frikinz> ok file deleted through ftp. it took like 10 seconds though
4351 [22:35:58] <zzla> not sure tbh, any google searches i do result a bunch of stuff which seems unrelated
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4360 [22:40:08] <frikinz> there was ccze that knows syntax and semantic of a few things and colorizes output. might also know netfilter
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4365 [22:43:27] <jhutchins_wk> zzla: Analog claims to be able to anlyze a wide variety of logs.
4366 [22:43:43] <jhutchins_wk> zzla: there's logwatch for a different approach.
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4425 [22:56:42] <Fajito> has somebody ever install gr-gsm?
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4429 [22:58:31] <jhutchins_wk> Fajito: Yes, somebody has.
4430 [22:58:35] <jhutchins_wk> !anybody
4431 [22:58:35] <dpkg> Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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4436 [22:59:58] <Fajito> jhutchins_wk: GR-GSM WON'T INSTALL, LEL
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4438 [23:00:40] <Fajito> jhutchins_wk: jk, but I'm facing some serious issue. Alsa package doesn't install through pybombs
4439 [23:00:56] <Fajito> don't know why, don't even know how to troubleshoot
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4454 [23:07:58] <Natechip> i got it
4455 [23:08:03] <Natechip> installed debian finally
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4488 [23:20:01] <Tom-_> Natechip, great :)
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4493 [23:21:47] <Natechip> Tom-_ I noticed sudo doesnt work and i need to go into su to get root rather than sudo
4494 [23:21:55] <Natechip> is that normal
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4501 [23:24:41] <n4dir> if you have setup a root password during installation (which is kinda default) and didn't make according changes after installation, then it is normal.
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4503 [23:25:07] <uwd> Natechip: what exactly happens when you write sudo
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4507 [23:25:47] <Natechip> uwd: bash: sudo: command not found
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4509 [23:25:56] <uwd> echo $PATH
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4527 [23:32:35] <uwd> Natechip: did you pick the hint up or do you need further help?
4528 [23:33:21] <Natechip> uwd: /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games is output of echo $ECHO
4529 [23:34:25] <frikinz> sudo looks optional so you have to install it
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4531 [23:34:32] <nvz> Natechip: what is your issue?
4532 [23:34:51] <nvz> yes, sudo is optional.. and if you want it to actually work you have to configure it as well
4533 [23:35:02] <Natechip> can someone send me a link
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4537 [23:36:04] <uwd> ih us that so, how longs that been like that nvz
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4539 [23:36:12] <n4dir> !sudo
4540 [23:36:13] <dpkg> [sudo] (Substitute User DO) Not enabled by default on Debian systems; configure /etc/sudoers first, ask me about <visudo>, <sudoers>. sudo can give limited super user privileges to specific users, or allow you to do silly things like run X apps with root permissions, or good in scripts with "username ALL = NOPASSWD: /some/program". See also <sudo path>. replaced-url
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4542 [23:36:17] <uwd> havent done fresh install of debian for ages
4543 [23:36:37] <n4dir> i hope the wiki entry has the according info, but don't know it
4544 [23:36:52] <n4dir> if it was me i would simply stick to su.
4545 [23:36:55] <Natechip> thanks
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4547 [23:37:10] <nvz> sudo hasn't been standard ever on anything that I'm aware of.. it is however on many distros enabled if you leave the root passwd blank, it installs sudo and sets it up so you can gain root access
4548 [23:37:11] <Natechip> yes sudo isnt a big deal anyways
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4550 [23:37:45] <uwd> nvz: pretty sure it got installed regardless for deb 5
4551 [23:38:09] <Natechip> still debating upgrading to testing
4552 [23:38:10] <nvz> many things that are optional still get auto installed as dependencies of something else
4553 [23:38:32] <nvz> for example a gnome desktop may have something like synaptic which uses gksu and pulls in sudo.. who knows
4554 [23:38:52] <Natechip> I use gnome, designed for faster work flow
4555 [23:38:52] <uwd> optional yes - but you said it wasnt standard which is just wrong
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4558 [23:39:04] <uwd> its actually more common to have it installed in "default" installation than not
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4567 [23:40:42] <nvz> Natechip: testing will change your support contract .. so you might want to make sure you know what you're doing and that there is not another way for you to address your issues
4568 [23:41:12] <Natechip> ok
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4571 [23:41:42] <Rakesh_> Hello
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4577 [23:42:12] <Guest91265> i would like to ask about crypto ransoware
4578 [23:42:22] <Guest91265> Bad Rabbit
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4581 [23:42:51] <Guest91265> we are using debian 8.6 in our environment
4582 [23:43:27] <Guest91265> is there any affect of Bad Rabbit on debian 8.6 (German )
4583 [23:43:37] <Guest91265> Please help me on this
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4585 [23:44:02] <nvz> Guest91265: we don't have any rabbits in debian, bad or otherwise
4586 [23:44:17] <nvz> just jumpnbump..
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4588 [23:44:43] <frikinz> sudo was always optional since 1995 :) replaced-url
4589 [23:44:56] <Guest91265> Bad Rabbit is ransomware which is getting popular now a days in europian countries
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4591 [23:45:06] <Guest91265> we have debian server in german
4592 [23:45:17] <Guest91265> so is there any affect on the system ?
4593 [23:45:41] <eck> i don't think it affects linux, i just googled it and it says it's related to adobe flash
4594 [23:45:42] <uwd> frikinz: if it was never part of the "default" installation, then i do stand corrected
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4597 [23:46:46] <Guest91265> how can i check adobe flash is installed on my debian server ?
4598 [23:47:00] <frikinz> It's windows only
4599 [23:47:08] <frikinz> all windows
4600 [23:47:14] <Guest91265> ok
4601 [23:47:17] <Guest91265> thanks
4602 [23:47:32] <eck> they have an apt repo actually, but i don't know if it affects the linux version of adobe flash anyway, and you would know if you enabled it since it's not enabled by default
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4607 [23:49:36] <frikinz> replaced-url
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4613 [23:51:40] <frikinz> So needs a user with admin privilege to click on "install" ...
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4619 [23:55:17] <noobly> why come after I install via usb it says dev/sda is clean then just black screens?
4620 [23:55:37] <noobly> I've never had this issue before, I just went through the installation process succesfully (or so I thought)
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4626 [23:56:56] <noobly> yeah it says /de/vsda1: clean (then list some file and block ratios)
4627 [23:57:04] <noobly> then its an eternity of nothing
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