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34[00:17:47] <maroloccio> how to get interface ip addresses? used to use `ifconfig`, now using `ip a`, is there a better way on debian?
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37[00:18:50] <Mathisen> ip address
38[00:18:54] <csh-harmful> "ip addr" is the modern way
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40[00:20:02] <disaster> Hi! i got a load problem on my server yesterday(3.6 load average on 15mn) and i try to trace it back with the logs. Unfortunately i think the problem is linked with some kernel's log that i can't understand. Does something like a "kernel log to human" guide exist?
41[00:20:08] <maroloccio> ok, so `ip a`, which is the same, is fine..
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70[00:35:34] <Delf> Looking inside /etc/gdm3/Init/Default. There are references to "gdmwhich setxkbmap". But I don't have gdmwhich?
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82[00:48:31] <disaster> or maybe you can tell me more about those messages : sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] tag#0 abort INFO: task jbd2/sda1-8:413 blocked for more than 120 seconds. [<ffffffff8e408835>] ? ret_from_fork+0x25/0x30
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85[00:52:34] <Delf> My bad. It's a function defined within the script. I have problem with the script not running for seat0, but for the other seats the script is run, what's going on?
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111[01:12:44] <Delf> There is a session for Debian-gdm running in seat0 even when I'm logged in as myself in seat0, that Debian-gdm still lingers, what's going on? This is not the case for the other seats
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124[01:24:21] <cr1t1cal> is a rtkit user running /usr/lib/rtkit common in linux?
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126[01:26:25] <ryouma> if you install rtkit, you might get that
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129[01:28:50] <ryouma> hmm, but not in jessie
130[01:29:16] <ryouma> there is no such binary
131[01:29:27] <cr1t1cal> OH
132[01:29:30] <cr1t1cal> its realtime kit
133[01:29:33] <cr1t1cal> i thought it was rootkit
134[01:29:34] <ryouma> ahahaah
135[01:29:36] <cr1t1cal> HAHAHA
136[01:29:42] <cr1t1cal> ryouma: thanks ;)
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255[02:31:25] <qu1nn> does anyone have a suggestion for a good indexing application to make searching for content within files quick and easy. about 3 TB of files, thanks
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303[03:06:03] <linurandy> someone help me with my bluetooth?
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310[03:11:26] <Krennic> /b 26
311[03:11:33] <awal1> your exact question
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313[03:12:07] <awal1> i dont use bluetoth myself :P
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319[03:13:43] <linurandy> for some moment my bluetooth look like it worked but not anymore
320[03:14:26] <linurandy> awal1: i run hcitool dev and nothing
321[03:14:33] <linurandy> before do it
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324[03:15:57] <awal1> linurandy, I have no clue myself about bluetooth, oters ay help if you you explain your issue
325[03:16:03] <awal1> !ask
326[03:16:03] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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331[03:16:54] <linurandy> ok, thanks
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338[03:21:14] <linurandy> I have a problem with my bluetooth BCM43142; I'm running Debian version 9.2. When I try to on my bluetooth for my wireless headphone nothing happen, I run hcitool dev command and not devices appear, but form a moment appeared.
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341[03:24:59] <Dreaman> Firmware
342[03:25:23] <Dreaman> i not install debian no work in my laptop
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344[03:25:37] <Dreaman> no internet is a jocke
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386[03:53:43] <ryouma> in jessie firefox-esr (52.4.0) there is a forum site that never loads. it loads fine in chromium and even tor browser. i tried safe mode with private browsing and it does not load. sometimes forever and sometimes says connection was reset. i am told this might be a distro build issue?
387[03:53:51] <ryouma> any clues?
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390[03:54:32] <awal1> which site
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392[03:55:38] <ryouma> i'm reluctant to say as it's medical, but it runs xenforo if that matters
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401[04:05:11] <mi11k1> I'm trying to connect openbox from a remote machine to Xnest , I thought I used to do this by doing "Xnest :100 -ac" on the local machine , and then on the remote machine do "export DISPLAY=x.x.x.x:100 openbox"
402[04:05:51] <mi11k1> i end up with Openbox-Message: Failed to open the display from the DISPLAY environment variable.
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435[04:27:26] <indian_font> Hi. I require help packaging a font for debian.
436[04:27:52] <annadane> indian_font, probably #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net is what you need
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439[04:28:24] <indian_font> ok. thanks.
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491[05:01:14] <JohnA> can someb ody advise as to why this doesn't seem to work. ("path"/abc."${type}" delete "$parm1" "$delay") >&3 2>&3 < /dev/null & disown
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493[05:03:47] <JohnA> what is supposed to happen is that /root/abc.update delete asac 300 is supposed to be started. it then should wait 300 seconds before continuing. but nothing seems to happen.
494[05:06:25] <JohnA> the time delay can be anything from 1sec to ... but is usually around 1800 sec
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506[05:17:55] <mi11k1> I'm trying to connect openbox from a remote machine to Xnest , I thought I used to do this by doing "Xnest :100 -ac" on the local machine , and then on the remote machine do "export DISPLAY=x.x.x.x:100 openbox"
507[05:17:58] <mi11k1> i end up with Openbox-Message: Failed to open the display from the DISPLAY environment variable.
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513[05:20:53] <veek> replaced-url
514[05:21:24] <veek> who do you contact for things like that
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521[05:28:09] <z8z> veek: debian channel?
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524[05:28:29] <somiaj> There isn't 9.2.1 images availble, I thought there was a bug so they had to relase those
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527[05:29:14] <veek> somiaj, the hashes don't match the 9.2.0 image ..
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531[05:31:40] <z8z> veek: so 9.2.1 will be available later??
532[05:32:06] <z8z> veek: What about you use the 9.1.0 and update?
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535[05:32:37] <veek> z8z, don't think so.. looks like a mistake to me.. the 256 and 512 hashes match 9.2.0
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539[05:33:50] <veek> oh hmm those 9.2.1 as well
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542[05:35:04] <veek> i downloaded that pkg ystrday and the hashes were 9.2.0 so they must be working on it or something
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544[05:35:16] <veek> 926b813eead0a05cf8d1877cb8426a7440816daac308d22f5c4d07b61c12b262 debian-9.2.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso
545[05:35:31] <veek> sha256
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550[05:37:20] <z8z> veek: i guess so
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552[05:38:12] <z8z> veek: I'm working on a comfortable website for forensic would you like to share some infos?
553[05:38:25] <veek> z8z shoot
554[05:38:36] <z8z> veek: Ok i PM you
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563[05:44:33] <Antares> Hi all!
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628[06:35:09] <jasonwc> Hello everyone, I noticed today that my system (Debian Testing with Gnome) is no longer automatically logging into Gnome. The automatic login setting is enabled in settings and the gdm config shows automatic login enabled. It was working before and I don't think I changed anything. I have an install of Debian Stretch on the same system (different SSD) and that still works fine.
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632[06:38:51] <annadane> jasonwc, testing/sid go in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
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755[08:29:03] <codingquark> Hello, I'm setting up offlineimap in Debian 9. I tried list-timers and list-unit-files, but could not see offlineimap in those lists. How can I enable offlineimap service?
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758[08:33:26] <Antares> hi
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760[08:33:35] <codingquark> Hello!
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782[09:08:43] <veek> man i need a solution to dvds - i've got squeeze and wheezy and now a stretch and i've discard a few
783[09:09:13] <veek> can usb's be made inherently read only
784[09:09:34] <bazhang> live ones?
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786[09:09:46] <veek> yep - install media that is
787[09:10:32] <Antares> how set timeout 0 on IRC client?
788[09:10:44] <Antares> give command pls
789[09:10:45] <bazhang> as opposed to persistent usb which allows changes/saves?
790[09:10:57] <veek> bazhang, yes
791[09:11:25] <veek> as in i worry that my pristine usb installaion sticks can get virus'd
792[09:11:38] <bazhang> there are persistnet usb and live usb
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795[09:14:11] <bazhang> veek areyou suggesting the debian repos have viruses
796[09:14:47] <veek> bazhang, nope but i'm super careless and if i stick the usb install media and boot off HD instead on an infected box
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798[09:15:23] <bazhang> veek if not, then what virus, how is it going to get on a live usb
799[09:15:37] <veek> replaced-url
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802[09:16:32] <bazhang> thats an actual physical switch
803[09:16:48] <bazhang> nothing to do with a live vs. persistent
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821[09:30:29] <codingquark> While doing `apt install firefox`, I'm getting "E: Package 'firefox' has no installation candidate". I'm on Debian 9. Is it available from some other source? replaced-url
822[09:30:37] <codingquark> s/is is/it is
823[09:30:58] <bazhang> ,v firefox
824[09:30:59] <judd> Package: firefox on amd64 -- jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.0-1~bpo80+1; sid: 56.0-2; experimental: 57.0~b6-1
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829[09:33:37] <codingquark> Ummm? Sorry, I did not get it.
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831[09:34:06] <bazhang> is that the exact package name
832[09:34:36] <codingquark> Right, so my command should work, right?
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836[09:38:28] <bazhang> ,v firefox-esr
837[09:38:29] <judd> Package: firefox-esr on amd64 -- jessie: 45.9.0esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.1.0esr-1~bpo80+1; jessie-proposed-updates: 52.4.0esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 52.4.0esr-1~deb8u1; stretch: 52.4.0esr-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 52.4.0esr-1~deb9u1; wheezy-security: 52.4.0esr-2~deb7u1; buster: 52.4.0esr-2; sid: 52.4.0esr-2
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839[09:39:04] <bazhang> firefox-esr codingquark
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841[09:39:38] <codingquark> bazhang: okay, that one is available. Thanks :)
842[09:39:52] <bazhang> np
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881[10:04:06] <Gusteru> hello, anyone can help me with this ? replaced-url
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883[10:05:29] <jelly> Gusteru: is this debian or raspbian?
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885[10:05:45] <Gusteru> jelly rasppbery pi 3
886[10:06:24] <jelly> Gusteru: did you install an image you got from debian.org, or someplace else?
887[10:06:53] <Gusteru> pfu, I don't know
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890[10:07:44] <jelly> Gusteru: pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy" then
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892[10:07:52] <Gusteru> jelly is ubuntu
893[10:07:55] <Gusteru> ok, 2 sec
894[10:08:02] <codingquark> apt is unable to find firmware-realtek. I want drivers for rtl8723be
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897[10:08:13] <jelly> Gusteru: if it's ubuntu, ask in #ubuntu channel
898[10:08:31] <jelly> dpkg, tell codingquark about non-free sources
899[10:08:37] <Gusteru> jelly I asked in ubuntu, but nobody response me
900[10:08:55] <codingquark> jelly: thanks :)
901[10:09:04] <jelly> Gusteru: it's weekend for many people, be patient
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903[10:09:23] <Gusteru> yes, it's true
904[10:09:43] <Gusteru> you are on ubuntu channel, you know how to resolve or only debian ?
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907[10:11:24] <jelly> I don't know how to resolve the build failure of old php off the top of my head, no
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909[10:12:05] <jelly> especially not on an undetermined OS running on r.pi 3
910[10:12:23] <Gusteru> ok
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912[10:14:31] <jelly> first figure out which OS you're using, then ask in the right place
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919[10:17:21] <kongthap> i'm using docker, so i came up with jessie+apache 2.4.10, i would like to upgrade to latest apache2, i have tried with apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade, but the apache version is still the same, please guide, thanks
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925[10:24:04] <jelly> kongthap: that's the latest for jessie
926[10:24:10] <jelly> ,v apache2
927[10:24:11] <judd> Package: apache2 on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.2.22-13+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 2.2.22-13+deb7u12; jessie: 2.4.10-10+deb8u9; jessie-proposed-updates: 2.4.10-10+deb8u11; jessie-security: 2.4.10-10+deb8u11; stretch: 2.4.25-3+deb9u3; stretch-security: 2.4.25-3+deb9u3; buster: 2.4.27-6; sid: 2.4.27-6
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934[10:25:40] <jelly> kongthap: debian releases do not get newer versions of software, only security and important fixes
935[10:26:09] <jelly> so if you have 2.4.10-10+deb8u11 that's the latest
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943[10:28:19] <kongthap> jelly, is it possible to get 2.4.11+ because, when i try to setup ssl, i got error message, after googling, i think i need newer version of apache
944[10:29:02] <jelly> kongthap: not in debian 8, and which error message in particular
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946[10:29:03] <jelly> !ask
947[10:29:03] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
948[10:30:55] <jelly> kongthap: also, read this if you haven't: zless /usr/share/doc/apache2/README.Debian.gz
949[10:30:59] <kongthap> i try to use a2enconf ssl-params with "SSLSessionTickets" inside the file
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952[10:31:29] <kongthap> the error was SSLSessionTickets is not supported
953[10:32:06] <jelly> okay, and where did you get the ssl-params file from?
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955[10:33:00] <font_developer> Hi. I need help packaging a font for debian. I tried #debian-mentors but it has only 3-4 users currently and I am receiving no responses. Any help on how to proceed?
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962[10:33:41] <jelly> font_developer: #debian-mentors is on irc.oftc.net, not here on freenode. Are you looking at the right channel?
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964[10:35:13] <font_developer> @jelly ok! New to this whole IRC stuff. Thanks. Will try it out.
965[10:35:43] <jelly> kongthap: but yeah, SSLSessionTickets was only implemented in 2.4.11; if you absolutely need it, use Debian 9 not Debian 8
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968[10:37:13] <kongthap> jelly, actually this is just for learning purpose, right now i only found article on digital ocean to do so, can you recommend any article to setup ssl on old version of apache ?
969[10:37:56] <jelly> kongthap: read this if you haven't: zless /usr/share/doc/apache2/README.Debian.gz
970[10:38:03] <jelly> no articles.
971[10:38:19] <kongthap> jelly, ok thanks
972[10:40:17] <font_developer> ok. How does one join irc.oftc.net? Does it require a client or can I directly do it from the website?
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978[10:44:37] <font_developer> jelly, when i log into irc.oftc.net and type a question, I am getting the response "Cant use this command in this window"
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980[10:45:22] <jelly> font_developer: you have to join a channel, type /join #debian-mentors
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983[10:46:47] <jelly> font_developer: which client, or which website are you using?
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987[10:47:28] <font_developer> jelly, I went to replaced-url
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989[10:47:56] <jelly> that sounds sane
990[10:48:19] <jelly> and clicked connect on the next page presumably
991[10:49:03] <font_developer> jelly, yes. I then go to the url webchat.oftc.net and no matter what I type, it says "cant use this command"
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996[10:51:14] <jelly> font_developer: does top of the window show a "status" button and a "#debian-mentors" button? Click on the latter
997[10:52:51] <font_developer> jelly, it only shows the status button. does not show the channel despite selecting it in the previous step
998[10:53:27] <jelly> font_developer: then type /j #debian-mentors
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1000[10:54:42] <jelly> (on the bottom row)
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1004[10:56:19] <font_developer> jelly, I typed the above command but when I press Enter nothing happens. It does not accept the entry. I tried only /j and it says "Insufficient Arguments". Is it possible the channel is down?
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1007[10:56:20] <jelly> font_developer: which nickname did you choose? also try /j #debian-offtopic
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1013[10:58:39] <font_developer> jelly: same nick as here. Changing nick is not helping either. is #debian-offtopic on OFTC as well? Same problem with that channel too.
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1017[10:59:25] <Gusteru> replaced-url
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1021[11:01:07] <jelly> font_developer: does the status window show a bunch of messages like this? replaced-url
1022[11:01:17] <jelly> maybe you're not connected at all
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1029[11:03:01] <jelly> Gusteru:
1030[11:03:02] <jelly> !ask
1031[11:03:03] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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1038[11:08:35] <disaster> Hi! i got a load problem on my server(3.6 load average on 15mn) on debian 9. I try to retrace the reasons why on logs and the problem seems to start from a kernel log that i can't understand. How professionnal sysadmin does? Is there any "every logs explanation" book or something?
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1040[11:09:25] <jelly> disaster: why do you think it's a problem in the first place?
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1045[11:10:21] <disaster> jelly: cause it's unusual so something unusual happend
1046[11:10:41] <jelly> unusual does not mean bad or incorrect
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1050[11:11:16] <disaster> jelly: well this freeze my service so it's bad
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1052[11:11:34] <jelly> !load average
1053[11:11:34] <dpkg> load average is probably the number of processes that are either in a "runnable" (waiting for CPU) or uninterruptable state, averaged over time. It's like the number of people in line at the checkout. It's possible to have a high load average with low CPU utilization if systems are waiting for other resources, e.g. I/O, network socket responses.
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1055[11:12:49] <jelly> disaster: loadavg is a symptom. Can you look at the services in question and see if they have actually had more consumers in the related period?
1056[11:13:44] <digdilem> i've not heard the checkout analogy before. i like it.
1057[11:13:55] <jelly> in a virtualized environment, this can be caused by the host (eg. something else consuming more io or memory or cpu resources)
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1059[11:14:30] <disaster> jelly: no i'm not running any graphana for now. but logs tell me some useful informations
1060[11:14:48] <disaster> jelly: the problem is with those kernel messages
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1062[11:15:28] <jelly> disaster: which kernel messages?
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1064[11:16:40] <disaster> jelly: but you are right loadavg is a symptom scheduler can't do her job as well then some httpd etc can't work then reach timeout then client spamm and the load grow up but it's not the point...
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1066[11:17:48] <disaster> jelly: well i'll paste those 3 messages but there's nothing to give me some authonomy on that kind of problem?
1067[11:18:03] <font_developer> jelly: no, the status window is clean
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1069[11:18:30] <tabakhase> there is a whole book on "how broken load is" - as its FAR FAR more than "just cpu" but tries to factor in IO and such, what doesnt work out at all anymore in SSD days...
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1072[11:19:50] <tabakhase> here, have a read: replaced-url
1073[11:20:21] <disaster> tabakhase: yeah of course but i was talking about understanding kernel logs and that kind of thing, not about what is loadavg
1074[11:20:45] <disaster> here are the logs: sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] tag#0 abort [<ffffffff8e408835>] ? ret_from_fork+0x25/0x30
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1133[12:01:31] <jelly> disaster: that means nothing without context, pastebin last couple hundred lines
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1136[12:03:15] <hwpplayer1> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
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1153[12:16:15] <tw> isn't loadavg just "average number of processes waiting in queue"?
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1161[12:18:42] <jelly> tw: that's what the bot said
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1174[12:26:01] <tw> yes it is.
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1176[12:26:32] <pingfloyd> tw: not quite
1177[12:27:28] <pingfloyd> tw: that's exactly what it is, but what's a good and bad values depends on how many cpus you have
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1179[12:29:31] <tw> And also what weird drivers you have that are always in some weird non-sleeping state.
1180[12:32:00] <jelly> oh, and disaster is gone
1181[12:32:24] <tw> I'm asking for my own benefit.
1182[12:32:57] <tw> I have to verify that I'm not crazy sometimes.
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1191[12:39:20] <JohnA> I am trying to setup up a new home based (internet accessible) server. Is there a recipe for partition sizes? disks available are 5 * 1.5tb.
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1196[12:45:44] <tw> Probably want 30GB for OS on /, you can partition whatever else you want for data storage. if you're looking for combining all the disks into one filesystem, either mdraid or lvm will let you do that.
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1199[12:46:46] <jaggz> hmm.. I did pbuilder for a package (vokoscreen) and, when installing the .deb, it requires a newer version of another package that's not available: depends on libqt5core5a (>= 5.9.0~beta) .. but libqt5core5a:amd64 on system is 5.7.1+dfsg-3+b1
1200[12:47:02] <jaggz> I'm trying to work on vokoscreen a bit
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1204[12:48:27] <JohnA> tw, Thanks
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1208[12:50:23] <JohnA> ? 2 - raid - 10, 5 or 6 which is considered "better" survivablity, perforamnce?
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1214[12:57:04] <^GoD^> re
1215[12:59:44] <jaggz> (I'm in stretch, btw, if it matters)
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1225[13:08:19] <jaggz> so.. I did pbuilder build --distribution stretch, and it built and the .deb installed without error; however, now when trying to run it I get: vokoscreen: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5: version `Qt_5.9' not found (required by vokoscreen)
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1231[13:13:26] <dernerdling> Hi together
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1242[13:20:11] <dernerdling> I have a problem since the update from jessie to stretch. I hope anybody can help me as i struggle with this since two whole days. I start x11vnc with systemd to get the greeter in the vnc-client, but after i login the screen turns black. I figured out that the greeter runs at display 0 and the user-desktop runs at display 1. So, i would have to run two x11vnc-servers for both screens. With jessie this was no problem, as both
1243[13:20:11] <dernerdling> on display 0. Please help me to fix this. I dont know that to do
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1278[13:47:03] <rant> I would imagine it creates a new display so the greeter is still available for other logins correct?
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1282[13:48:04] <rant> otherwise you'd just not need a greeter and would just start the session because only one person could use it anyhow
1283[13:48:20] <dernerdling> Im not sure about that. But if so, how was this handled in jessie and why different in stretch?
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1287[13:49:08] <rant> I'm not certain as I never used this, I typically just ssh in, and start a tight/tiger vnc session that tunnels over ssh. I'm just trying to follow the logic
1288[13:49:33] <dernerdling> In jessie i could login to as many users id like to and everyhting was running under display 0
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1290[13:49:39] <rant> the whole point of using a greeter for vnc in my mind is so that different users could use it
1291[13:49:49] <rant> otherwise you'd just run a user's session and skip the greeter
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1295[13:50:21] <rant> I don't see how its possible all users could use the same display at all
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1298[13:51:06] <dernerdling> Not at the same time, but i could switch between them and the greeter without the need of having multiple vnc-servers running
1299[13:51:13] <rant> vnc uses by default 5900 and there is no display 0, the first one is display 1 and its on port 5901
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1304[13:51:32] <rant> ah..
1305[13:51:34] <dernerdling> gdm3 is running under display 0
1306[13:52:22] <rant> well again I never used this setup, but typically the greeter configs control what displays are used by its sessions
1307[13:52:31] <dernerdling> or the greeter is…im not that advanced in linux
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1309[13:52:45] <rant> I once had an issue where it was logging in (using normal local X and sending input to tty8 instead of tty7
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1313[13:54:02] <rant> it would sugguest to me that the greeter is the issue here not the vnc server
1314[13:54:40] <rant> what I'd done to realize this in my scenario was try a different greeter and it worked.. doing the same would work to tell you if thats the case here as well
1315[13:54:50] <rant> then you know where the problem lies and where to look
1316[13:54:55] <dernerdling> Ok, thats a startpoint. I think also that the problem is the xserver, or the greeter
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1319[13:56:17] <dernerdling> i found several german people who had this issue but no fix for it :( i dont know if there are some usefull infos but take at look it replaced-url
1320[13:56:23] <rant> we have tons of greeter packages avaiable to try.. nodm, lightdm, xdm, kdm, gdm.. etc
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1323[13:58:04] <rant> idk that just gives me an ssl error, but the title specifically mentioning gnome 3 further supports my theory that gdm3 is where the problem lies
1324[13:58:18] <rant> its going to need to be configured properly
1325[13:58:32] <dernerdling> ok, then i will try a different greeter and report if something changes
1326[13:59:21] <rant> lightdm has become increasingly popular
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1328[14:00:19] <dernerdling> someone over here has the same problem with lightdm replaced-url
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1330[14:00:41] <rant> hell just removing the dm altogether and having no issue tells you its the dm
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1332[14:02:00] <rant> I ditched gdm a long time ago because it was more cumbersome to configure
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1335[14:02:44] <rant> while it had (at least in gdm2 days) a gui config, it didnt expose more advanced confgiuration options
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1337[14:03:52] <rant> I for one am not a huge fan of the splitting up and scattering of config files.. and reminisc on the good ol days when /etc/foo/ and ~/.foo/ had flat config files for foo
1338[14:04:12] <rant> makes things harder to figure out the way things are done now
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1340[14:04:34] <dernerdling> To be honest with you. I have worked with some virtual linux machines before, but this is my first project with a physical one and im pretty new to all of this. I dont know where to look and take actions to get this fixed…
1341[14:05:49] <dernerdling> i just want to have this simply fixed and get the rest of the work done…this bugs me hard. first time real linux project and this little thing keeps me from getting my work done :/
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1345[14:06:14] * abrotman wonders if Vino might be better than x11vnc there
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1349[14:07:13] <nvz> me either and I dont have a powerful enough machine to try replicate the issue I'm on an SoC with 512mb ram, can't go getting crazy doing a whole lot or the magic smoke will come out.. but it sounds to me like your display manager is misconfigured and if it were me, short of using a different simpler setup altogether I'd dig into the dm docs and configs
1350[14:07:46] <nvz> and idk if its still the case but we used to have specific channels for debian and different DEs and the DEs themselves have support channels where you may find people more familiar with their stuff
1351[14:07:47] <dernerdling> i will give this a try. is vino bind to a specific display? cause i think the problem is that the greeter and desktop are swtiching displays is the real problem
1352[14:08:02] <nvz> !gnome
1353[14:08:02] <dpkg> GNOME is a Desktop Environment ("DE", so are <KDE> and <XFCE>) based on GTK+. To get or delete GNOME, ask me about <install gnome> or <remove gnome> respectively. See also <gnome status>. replaced-url
1354[14:08:38] <abrotman> ...
1355[14:09:01] <dernerdling> thank you all for the informations ;)
1356[14:09:03] <abrotman> dernerdling: I've not used it, but also note, there is a #gnome that might be more help than people complaining about config file location :)
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1360[14:10:11] <nvz> I was just noting that when I had similar issues the gdm configurations were hard to find, and yes, that there are channels were people are more familiar with em
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1462[15:03:26] <blz> Hello, what's the meaning of this error message that asynchronously appears in bash? Message from syslogd@monolith at Oct 15 13:53:29 ...
1463[15:03:28] <blz> kernel:[3591053.395663] unregister_netdevice: waiting for lo to become free. Usage count = 1
1464[15:03:44] <blz> Google hasn't been particularly helpful, here :/
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1467[15:04:25] <tw> looks like a docker bug
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1471[15:05:57] <jelly> blz: which debian release is that and which kernel
1472[15:05:58] <tw> blz: what does uname -a say?
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1481[15:11:08] <tw> I could be wrong. Reading more bug reports, it could be netns + systemd acting wonky.
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1483[15:11:37] <shtrb> tw , there is a systemd gem for such an issue ?
1484[15:12:39] <tw> I haven't repro'd it, but the ubuntu bug reports suggest connections still open on lo when netns is trying to shut down and the kernel doesn't like that.
1485[15:13:12] <tw> I'm confused as to how that could be related to systemd, but it's mentioned.
1486[15:13:19] <shtrb> :)
1487[15:13:41] <blz> tw, jelly : Linux monolith 4.9.0-3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.30-2+deb9u3 (2017-08-06) x86_64 GNU/Linux
1488[15:14:03] <jelly> blz: might want to patch that up
1489[15:14:32] <jelly> Linux box 4.9.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.51-1 (2017-09-28) x86_64 GNU/Linux is current
1490[15:15:12] <blz> jelly: just rand apt-get dist-upgrade ... nothing to install
1491[15:15:15] <blz> *ran
1492[15:15:44] <jelly> blz: make sure linux-image-amd64 is installed
1493[15:15:59] <tw> blz: you might also have the new kernel install but need a reboot.
1494[15:16:11] <blz> tw: ah yeah, good point
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1496[15:16:21] <blz> okay I'll give that a whirl and come back if it continues toa ct up
1497[15:16:35] <jelly> it's probably not fixed but who knows
1498[15:16:40] <blz> It's worth a shot
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1500[15:17:06] <tw> worst case, you can claim your system is up to date if you have to file a bug report.
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1502[15:17:40] <blz> tw: haha exactly
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1509[15:23:48] <tw> What's the best way to share an audio device with a chroot? My chroot is trying to use /dev/dsp (ancient program), but pulse has alsa locked exclusive. If I set pulse to use dmix, it has 100-200 ms of audio latency which is mildly irritating for general usage as all videos looks like a poorly dubbed asian films.
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1513[15:26:54] <jelly> tw: run it under padsp?
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1518[15:28:56] <tw> I'll try it. I doubt it's going to work with the version of pulse that's in squeeze.
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1521[15:30:11] <jelly> run the whole chroot in padsp for all I care!
1522[15:30:40] <tw> honestly, if I thought that would work, I would totally do it, but we both know that is not how LD_PRELOAD works.
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1524[15:30:44] <tw> nor chroot.
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1529[15:32:38] <jelly> well you just have to be root first!
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1531[15:35:44] <JyZyXEL> tw: PA FAQ describes all the bind mounts that might be needed: replaced-url
1532[15:37:12] <jelly> and have a stretch/squeeze montrosity running!
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1535[15:40:57] <tw> maybe I'm going about this all wrong. Going to try losing the chroot, dumping all the libs it needs in cwd, then LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. LD_PRELOAD=libpulsedsp.so ./dinosaurprogram
1536[15:41:34] <tw> okay, problem solved, ish.
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1539[15:42:50] <noqnio1> Hey, did anyone observe high apache cpu usage after 5-9 Oct upgrades? (various libraries and kernel 4.9.0-4)
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1552[15:51:07] <jelly> noqnio1: no but how busy is your apache anyway?
1553[15:51:30] <jelly> how many requests per second?
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1559[15:53:41] <noqnio1> none, but idle cpu time went from 5% to 20% and now my requests take noticeable time to reply
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1561[15:54:04] <jelly> the few apache / debian 9 VMs I have show nothing similar
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1565[15:55:02] <jelly> Linux bss-prod 4.9.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.51-1 (2017-09-28) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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1568[15:55:26] <noqnio1> hmm.. apart from updating i didn't do anything
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1570[15:55:53] <jelly> do you mean "busy" cpu time went up?
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1572[15:56:17] <jelly> noqnio1: what does "vmstat 1" show, is lots of it used in user or system or io or what?
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1577[15:58:36] <pragomer> hi. I used this command to scale my display under stretch, xfce on a hidpi-monitor:
1578[15:58:37] <pragomer> xrandr --output eDP-1 --mode "2560x1600" --scale "0.5x0.5"
1579[15:58:58] <pragomer> but now all is a little bit "not so sharp".
1580[15:59:13] <pragomer> according to this, I should compile xrandr myself:
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1585[15:59:35] <pragomer> replaced-url
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1587[15:59:49] <pragomer> but this is above my skills.
1588[15:59:55] <noqnio1> mostly userspace, ~15-30 system when I request
1589[15:59:59] <pragomer> can I fix this somehow easiely?
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1593[16:02:08] <jelly> noqnio1: so what does does this system do when it's supposed to be idle?
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1595[16:02:14] <jelly> what else* does it do
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1597[16:03:04] <noqnio1> nothing.. and when i vmstat or top, the idle cpu usage doesn't seem out of the ordinary (some mariadb housekeeping and such), but on my VPS overview there is a clear increase in overall cpu usage
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1599[16:03:51] <tw> pragomer: can you set the mode to 1280x800 instead? would that not have the same effect?
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1602[16:05:15] <jelly> it's also blurry then
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1611[16:10:46] <pragomer> you are right.. its a pity that I use my retina with 1600px instead of 2600... but using lower resolution seems to be the best solution for XFCE at this moment
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1613[16:11:01] <pragomer> gnome and KDE solve this perfect. They scale it perfectly...
1614[16:11:05] <pragomer> but not so xfce :-(
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1616[16:12:35] <tw> pragomer: is it just the window widgets and soforth that appear too small?
1617[16:13:48] <tw> !hidpi
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1619[16:13:54] <tw> Surprised that doesn't exist.
1620[16:14:10] <spacebug^> maybe just hdpi?
1621[16:14:15] <tw> !hdpi
1622[16:14:25] <spacebug^> :/
1623[16:14:48] <pragomer> according to the link I posted above its really like that: you have 3 solutions for a hidpi display:
1624[16:14:50] <pragomer> 1. setting lower res
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1626[16:15:30] <pragomer> 2. setting DPI for fonts, increasing icon-sizes etc... but in this case some elements of xfce desktop stay tiny
1627[16:15:33] <pragomer> 3. xrandr
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1630[16:16:20] <tw> "some elements" being the icons. You can try setting the maximum icon size as well in xfce.
1631[16:16:29] <spacebug^> adn then you try some java program or something using another framework and that does not work hehe
1632[16:16:50] <tw> yes, Eclipse is a notable troublemaker when it comes to hidpi.
1633[16:16:55] <tw> (at least for me)
1634[16:17:09] <pragomer> no I mean e.g. the windows-decorations and their buttons: you cannot change that and there exist nearly no themes that really work (with xfce)
1635[16:18:14] <pragomer> like I said.. I can change fonts... whiskermenu, icon-size on desktop and thunar...
1636[16:18:20] <pragomer> but not windows-deco-buttons :(
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1645[16:20:12] <pragomer> sorry was afk for few seconds
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1651[16:22:32] <tw> If the themes are specified in pixels, then yes, it's going to scale poorly.
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1655[16:25:06] <pragomer> I have many themes.. as an example here is my screenshot of "adapta"..
1656[16:25:08] <pragomer> replaced-url
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1659[16:25:36] <pragomer> ALL themes (the window-deco-buttons) are much too tiny, execpt the standard-ones called "Default HiDpi"
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1664[16:27:36] <pragomer> xfce is based on gtk2 so I have to examine the "gtk2" folder of the theme, right?
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1670[16:29:04] <cybrNaut> torsocks firefox-esr <= this just hangs - is it expected that the ESR version breaks torsocks?
1671[16:29:59] <hiya> cybrNaut: use TBB. Period.
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1680[16:38:15] <cybrNaut> TBB does not exist, it's "TB" now. And TB is a disaster
1681[16:38:30] <cybrNaut> TB is both insecure and inconvenient.. it's a shit tool
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1693[16:42:13] <ThoMe> hiho
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1699[16:43:06] <ThoMe> have an ipv6 problem: inbound connectino no problem, outbound with example wget not posible (or apt-get update). ping ipv6.google.com works fine.
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1701[16:43:30] <ThoMe> where I can begin for find the error?
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1704[16:44:06] <ThoMe> xenbr0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 inet 176.9.150.118 netmask 255.255.255.224 broadcast 176.9.150.127 inet6 2a01:4f8:160:3336::2 prefixlen 112 scopeid 0x0<global>
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1711[16:46:46] <Dagger> ...prefixlen of 112 is already a bad sign :/
1712[16:47:29] <ThoMe> Dagger: emm?
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1715[16:48:40] <Dagger> as a general rule: if you're seeing something other than /64 on-link, somebody screwed up somewhere
1716[16:49:10] <Dagger> (although not necessarily in a way that's related to your current problem)
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1718[16:50:00] <ThoMe> Dagger: emm. this maschine is a router
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1726[16:52:55] <Dagger> on-link subnets should basically always be /64 in v6
1727[16:53:02] <Dagger> also, one key feature of a router is that it routes
1728[16:53:18] <Dagger> but in order to route traffic for a network, the traffic for that network has to be routed to you first
1729[16:53:28] <Dagger> and I can't remember if Hetzner actually route you any IP space or not
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1825[17:40:16] <codingquark> Q: How do I enable offlineimap in systemd?
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1829[17:40:54] <rant> codingquark: systemctl enable offlineimap
1830[17:41:12] <rant> the question mark kinda tell us its a question btw
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1833[17:41:28] <codingquark> rant: are you sure offlineimap is the service name?
1834[17:41:42] <codingquark> Because my system shows it is not.
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1839[17:42:12] <codingquark> I tried that, also checked using list-timers and list-unit-files
1840[17:42:17] <rant> codingquark: I'm not even sure what offlineimap is or if you have service files for it. your question was vague so I interpreted that to mean you merely didnt know the command to enable/disable services
1841[17:42:19] <codingquark> Could not see offlineimap there.
1842[17:42:43] <codingquark> rant: ah, okay. I see.
1843[17:42:50] <rant> generally if you already tried things and they didnt work that info with the output should be part of the question
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1846[17:43:49] <codingquark> yea, sorry.
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1851[17:44:48] <rant> codingquark: the upstream website says the service is called offlineimap but that doesnt mean debian devs left it that way
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1854[17:45:18] <codingquark> rant: right, I checked arch wiki and those names do not match either.
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1856[17:48:10] <rant> codingquark: considered dpkg -L offlineimap ?
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1872[18:01:47] <macondo123> hi everybody, recently I got a different kbd for my desktop (us english) how do I change in debian from spanish to english?
1873[18:02:10] <macondo123> do I have to reinstall?
1874[18:02:26] <mtn_> macondo123, are you using a desktop environment? like gnome?
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1880[18:03:51] <clas1c> Hi When I try passwd command I got Segmentaion fault
1881[18:03:55] <macondo123> my box is a desktop and not a laptop, my original kbd is spanish, NOW I got an american english one
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1883[18:04:04] <clas1c> Any way to restore it witout reinstall OS?
1884[18:04:17] <clas1c> please hilight my nick for tips Thanks in advance
1885[18:04:24] <mtn_> macondo123, are you using gnome? yes or no?
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1887[18:04:42] <macondo123> mtn_: did I explain myself correctly?
1888[18:04:51] <mtn_> macondo123, no.
1889[18:04:54] <mtn_> macondo123, are you using gnome? yes or no?
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1891[18:05:30] <macondo123> mtn_: no. I am using icewm
1892[18:05:56] <mtn_> macondo123, ok. does it have a system settings in the menu? or keyboard in the menu?
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1894[18:06:15] <macondo123> no
1895[18:07:00] <macondo123> is there something like dpkg-reconfigure kbd?
1896[18:07:16] <mtn_> macondo123, first google hit: replaced-url
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1898[18:07:30] <macondo123> ok, thanks, pal
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1901[18:08:08] <debsan_> macondo123, you can try setxkbmap us
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1923[18:18:40] <mrjayribs> Helllo friends! I was wondering if anyone could help me connect to my AlogVPN. I think the problem is between NetworkManager and StrongSwan.
1924[18:19:16] <mrjayribs> The server works; i've connect it with my andriod. The AlgoVPN github doesn't really help out with Stretch
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1929[18:21:07] <macondo123> mt_: problem solved- thanks buddy
1930[18:21:07] <mrjayribs> AlgoVPN*
1931[18:21:56] <macondo123> mtn_: problem solved - thx
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1933[18:22:05] <mtn_> macondo123, welcome
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2006[19:04:40] <eml_> hi
2007[19:04:52] <hwpplayer1> Hi
2008[19:04:54] <eml_> can someone please help me run GUI programs as root?
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2011[19:05:30] <eck> no
2012[19:05:43] <eml_> when i try to run them as root, i get an error: No protocol specified kcalc: cannot connect to X server :0
2013[19:05:53] <shtrb|laptop> How do I know which HDMI port is "working" from aplay -l ?
2014[19:05:56] <eml_> there are some special programs i need to run as root
2015[19:06:08] <eck> what kind of special programs
2016[19:06:36] <eml_> they are some special apps I wrote
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2018[19:06:45] <eml_> custom apps
2019[19:06:52] <shtrb|laptop> eml_ fix them to not run as root
2020[19:06:56] <eml_> point being, i need to run them as root
2021[19:06:57] <eck> why do they need to run as root
2022[19:07:02] <eml_> no, they have to run as root
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2025[19:07:26] <eck> i don't think kcalc needs to run as root
2026[19:07:31] <eml_> this is a development machine, nto production, so im not worried about security yet. eventauly, i will fix it to not show a GUI
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2028[19:07:52] <eml_> eck: i can TEST a way to run the program using kcalc
2029[19:08:04] <eml_> im just using it to test
2030[19:08:08] <eck> since you're a developer maybe you can download the x11 source code and modify it to let you run kcalc as root
2031[19:08:25] <eml_> no, i have it working on another development machine
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2034[19:08:31] <eml_> but on this 1 machine, its not letting me
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2036[19:08:55] <eml_> is there a way i can make this change permanent?
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2039[19:09:04] <mtn_> eml_, you should not run gui apps as root. start them with gksudo if they need to be root. most of them don't need to be root
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2073[19:24:32] <awal1> how is called the fact of cobining title bar and tool bar as gnome3 does?
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2075[19:24:54] <awal1> does for it's native apps
2076[19:25:05] <shtrb> had to load the HDMI profile in pavucontrol to get audio over hdmi
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2079[19:25:51] <annadane> awal1, if i had to guess it's a gnome extension
2080[19:25:54] <mtn_> awal1, my gnome 3 does not do that, if I understand you correctly
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2082[19:25:58] <annadane> i don't know what it's called specifically
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2084[19:26:08] <mtn_> awal1, probably an extension. I agree
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2088[19:27:05] <annadane> #gnome might know better
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2090[19:28:06] <awal1> mtn_, annadane, I mean with recent versions gnome3 combines buttons (previous, next...minimize, maximize, close) and title, so you have only 1 bar
2091[19:28:13] <awal1> not an extension
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2094[19:29:00] <awal1> i forgot how is called by software devs
2095[19:29:02] <mtn_> awal1, that seems like all desktops to me. how is that different?
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2097[19:29:22] <awal1> mtn_, you are in gnome now?
2098[19:29:30] <mtn_> yes
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2100[19:30:13] <awal1> open a native gnome app, say nautilus and a non native, a gtk2 based 1 or any other, and compare top bar
2101[19:31:11] <annadane> yeah, that to sounds like all desktops but i'm really not familiar with gnome
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2105[19:31:20] <mtn_> awal1, nautilus is a special case, but other apps look just like they do on other desktops
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2107[19:31:36] <mtn_> awal1, hexchat for instance
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2109[19:32:14] <awal1> hexchat is gtk2, let me paste a pic
2110[19:32:44] <mtn_> awal1, name another gtk3 app
2111[19:33:06] <awal1> mtn_, gnome system monitor
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2114[19:33:50] <mtn_> awal1, ok, so the difference you are talking about is that the title bar is missing
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2116[19:34:07] <awal1> mtn_ yeah
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2118[19:34:23] <mtn_> awal1, which is not what you said ;)
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2120[19:34:38] <awal1> mtn_, well bad english here
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2123[19:34:54] <awal1> not missing anyway , it is combined with tool bar
2124[19:35:00] <mtn_> awal1, for those apps the title is shown on the top bar and some of the menu items, too
2125[19:35:13] <awal1> mtn_, yeah
2126[19:35:16] <mtn_> awal1, no, the title is up on the panel bar above
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2128[19:35:48] <mtn_> awal1, not in the app window at all
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2130[19:36:22] <awal1> hehe, it doesn't matter; what i wanted to know is how that is called
2131[19:37:13] <mtn_> no idea. maybe ask on the gnome channel?
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2133[19:37:24] <awal1> bcoz it is the new approach of gnome
2134[19:37:32] <awal1> hm, i'll google more
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2138[19:40:03] <codingquark> rant: hey, I was away. I had not considered dpkg for offlineimap. Doing that. :)
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2142[19:41:46] <codingquark> rant: and that is what I wanted, there are docs and examples for systemd services. Thanks a lot!
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2149[19:48:46] <klrjsg> awal1: client side decoration
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2152[19:49:39] <rant> codingquark: no problem
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2162[19:53:06] <veek> what's happened to olvwm in stretch?
2163[19:53:23] <veek> how do i install it and can i run it on wayland?
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2166[19:53:57] <annadane> ,v olvwm
2167[19:53:58] <judd> Package: olvwm on amd64 -- jessie: 4.4.3.2p1.4-28.1; wheezy: 4.4.3.2p1.4-28.1; sid: 4.4.3.2p1.4-28.2
2168[19:55:12] <veek> annadane will it work on wayland?
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2170[19:55:17] <annadane> no idea
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2173[19:55:51] <veek> i managed to get weston working as 'root' but not as a normal user..
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2179[19:56:48] <awal1> klrjsg, I think that is how is called yeah, thanks
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2184[20:01:02] <awal1> veek, olvwm and olvwm, have been removed from stretch bcuz of this bug (almost) I reported during stretch development #855168 :P
2185[20:01:03] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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2187[20:01:25] <awal1> olvwm and olvm
2188[20:01:35] <jelly> what does an almost you look like
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2193[20:02:31] <tw> Does it make sense to report a bad min-version in a build-dep in a buster package at this point?
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2195[20:02:43] <annadane> you can probably backport it i guess
2196[20:02:44] <annadane> !ssb
2197[20:02:45] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
2198[20:02:48] <annadane> veek, ^
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2200[20:03:21] <annadane> as to whether it will work with wayland i still have no idea
2201[20:03:29] <awal1> olwm/olvwm
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2203[20:03:48] <shtrb> Any suggestions for running Win10 guest under a VM in debian ? (having sound and file sharing is a MUST for me ) currently looking over vbox but open to suggestions
2204[20:03:49] <veek> annadane ty
2205[20:03:54] <annadane> though if it's in sid the window manager's documentation or website ought to specify whether it will be wayland compatible, you can of course just ask them too
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2207[20:04:10] <awal1> jelly, almost means almost bcoz of that bug but also bcoz of other importants bugs, if my memory is good :P
2208[20:04:13] <annadane> sid as opposed to stable because wayland is relatively new and the one in sid may support it
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2215[20:08:02] <tw> shtrb: qemu-kvm under libvirt/virt-manager will probably work fine for you as well, but vbox is probably more natural to get started with.
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2221[20:11:12] <fraengii> Hi!
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2223[20:11:30] <shtrb> Thanks tw
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2226[20:12:25] <raptor79> ciao
2227[20:12:35] <raptor79> !list
2228[20:12:36] <dpkg> raptor79: vedi replaced-url
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2239[20:15:43] <awal1> veek, if you are a olwm/olvwm advanced/familiar user you can contribute to this bug #855167 and help to debug and solve the bug
2240[20:15:44] <judd> Bug replaced-url
2241[20:16:07] <fraengii> My .bash_profile seems not to be read at login. How can I find out what's wrong or where am I wrong? I like to have my $HOME/bin in the $PATH and want to etablish my own Xmodmap.
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2251[20:20:15] <alioui_> hi all, i have the same problem as this :replaced-url
2252[20:20:27] <alioui_> on debian 9
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2255[20:20:45] <alioui_> any idea
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2257[20:21:16] <alioui_> XIO: fatal IO 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":1"
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2260[20:21:43] <alioui_> in the log file of the server
2261[20:22:22] <alioui_> andclient complain about dbus
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2283[20:29:36] <veek> what DISPLAY does weston run on by default
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2328[20:52:45] <jadesoturi> hi all. installed a server in a proxmox VM and installed pure-ftpd but having some issues i cant figure out. most likely due to NAT/firewalls etc, but: after connecting and entering passivemode i et ECONNREFUSED on the MLSD command.. ive passed portrange and forcepassive IP and forwarded port 21 to the correct LAN ip on the serverside.. but cant figure out why its not connecting.. ive tried to use SFTP and atctive mode - both result in the same
2329[20:52:45] <jadesoturi> error
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2336[20:57:43] <jelly> jadesoturi: sftp uses ssh port 22 and nothing else, was that a typo or did you mean something else
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2338[20:58:08] <jadesoturi> i tried sftp with port 22 with the same result
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2343[20:58:30] <jelly> that's not a ftp craziness issue then
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2345[20:58:42] <jadesoturi> port 21 is forwarded to the server lan ip. it shows my "home folder" path,
2346[20:58:44] <jadesoturi> hmmm
2347[20:58:53] <jadesoturi> i dont get it whats the problem then..
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2349[20:59:10] <jelly> jadesoturi: if you can log in via sftp you should be able to transfer data. It does not use any other connections
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2351[20:59:36] <machinehum> Has anyone has issues with the recent update? I just updated at now my keyboard doesn't work.
2352[20:59:44] <machinehum> Debian 9 amd64
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2355[21:00:16] <machinehum> USB keyboard on a desktop, tried different usb ports, tried different keyboards
2356[21:00:53] <jadesoturi> jelly, oki.. sorry. my bad. seems i forgot to save the settings when using sftp - works nicely. but a quick question -sftp vs ftp over TLS - pros and cons?
2357[21:00:59] <jelly> machinehum: can you log in via ssh and see if the usb device is visible in lsusb output when the keyboard is connected
2358[21:01:19] <jelly> jadesoturi: avoid ftp like hell
2359[21:01:40] <jelly> it's needlessly arcane
2360[21:02:06] <jadesoturi> okok. sftp it is then. thanks!
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2372[21:07:38] <pingwindyktator> Weird question. Where can I download debian 2.0?
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2381[21:11:31] <petemc> pingwindyktator: replaced-url
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2386[21:12:15] <pingwindyktator> petemc: I see 3.0 there. Definitely too new xd
2387[21:13:11] <petemc> it says at the top there are some user supplied 2.0 images
2388[21:13:34] <machinehum> jelly: Thanks for the responce, I apparenty didn't try hard enough with other keyboards...
2389[21:13:53] <machinehum> Another one works, so most likely there was something relating to that one keyboard
2390[21:14:12] <machinehum> I'll probably try to fix that later
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2395[21:16:51] <fraengii> Is it correct that .profile is read at login and that it will not be read when there is a .bash_profile?
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2398[21:17:45] <fraengii> And does the .bash_profile the same as .profile?
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2404[21:22:55] <p3rL> need help urgent...
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2406[21:23:19] <p3rL> help!!!
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2408[21:24:55] <fraengii> p3rL?
2409[21:25:19] <p3rL> i mean i have vps debian 7 am i had installed apache and when i use ip in browser site cant reached
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2412[21:26:54] <p3rL> please help me out
2413[21:27:05] <p3rL> i have vps debian 7 am i had installed apache and when i use ip in browser site cant reached
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2416[21:29:49] <fraengii> p3rL, did you meen ip=127.0.0.1?
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2429[21:37:30] <fraengii> p3rL, I've installed apache2 via 'apt-get install apache2' on my Debian 9 and it works out of the box: 127.0.0.1 and localhost bring me to the apache2 default page.
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2446[21:48:25] <HoloIRCUser> Hello
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2449[21:48:42] <where> Where
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2451[21:50:02] <where> Talk?
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2467[21:57:19] <crucify_me> hi can you essentially convert a kindle book to a pdf by using calibre
2468[21:57:20] <crucify_me> ?
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2486[22:00:18] <annadane> where, hi. do you have a debian support question?
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2490[22:00:29] <annadane> general chatter is in #debian-offtopic
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2495[22:01:12] <crucify_me> xx
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2498[22:01:45] <crucify_me> hello sorry can you essentially convert a kindle mobi what have you to a pdf using calibre?
2499[22:01:52] <crucify_me> I was disconnected
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2501[22:02:15] <where> What is debian
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2505[22:02:36] <crucify_me> a Hermann Hesse novel I think
2506[22:02:41] <annadane> debian is an operating system
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2510[22:03:45] <crucify_me> well I installed calibre. I'm hoping the formatting is better than kindle cloud app if I can convert a book to pdf. any thoughts?
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2512[22:04:21] <jelly> dpkg, tell where about debian
2513[22:04:28] <jelly> dpkg, tell where about offtopic
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2519[22:06:39] <awal1> no torrent for unofficial images?
2520[22:07:09] <awal1> I want to download this dvd via torrent replaced-url
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2523[22:07:55] <awal1> that is for a couple of friends and very bad/slow internet here
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2595[22:41:08] <bsf123> How would I go about installing i8k kernel module?
2596[22:41:27] <bsf123> The laptop I have seems not to be able to use the fans anymore.
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2610[22:51:26] <eugenmayer> with debian stretch, do i really need to add a bridge with a custom script during startup?
2611[22:51:40] <eugenmayer> auto vmbr0
2612[22:51:49] <eugenmayer> does not create any bridge actually
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2651[23:11:32] <kernelnewbie> hi, can i ask sources related questions here, and how to make debian packages?
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2653[23:13:03] <mtn> kernelnewbie, this might help you: replaced-url
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2655[23:14:21] <ber532k> kernelnewbie: Also I just uploded a really simple example for a binary package yesterday to help some other guy on this channel: replaced-url
2656[23:14:24] <annadane> kernelnewbie, you can ask about sources here, but for how to make debian packages see the link mtn posted, or ask in #debian-mentors on oftc
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2658[23:14:35] <annadane> (irc.oftc.net)
2659[23:15:16] <ber532k> I don't know about source packages though
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2672[23:20:21] <bsf123> So, turns out the defaults for fan-speed ranges are not sane.
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2690[23:32:46] <bsf123> Anyway, problem fixed. If anyone using a laptop has issues with fans and stretch (standard), make them check if there's any daemon actually managing fanspeeds installed.
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