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2[21:59:03] <jelly-home> MC_Erroneous, use an editor, vi is fine
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12[22:01:11] <jonathan_x> Thus far I've only upgraded Grub, Lvm2, and Apache to stretch :p.
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14[22:01:29] <MC_Erroneous> somebody knows which packet provides .inputrc
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16[22:01:32] <MC_Erroneous> ?
17[22:01:45] <jonathan_x> It is a file you have to create
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19[22:01:50] <jonathan_x> And you put bindings in it
20[22:01:53] <jonathan_x> For the keys
21[22:02:08] <jonathan_x> But normally it would work off the shelve.
22[22:02:23] <jonathan_x> I have had to do it on a NAS device.
23[22:02:29] <jonathan_x> Very annoying I think.
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25[22:02:52] <teraflops> MC_Erroneous: i already told you, since you have to create it manually, no package provides it
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27[22:03:14] <jonathan_x> Actually it also exists in /etc/inputrc
28[22:03:23] <MC_Erroneous> so where do i take the example from ?
29[22:03:25] <teraflops> same for e.g ~/.XCompose, you reate it manually
30[22:03:29] <teraflops> create^
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32[22:03:33] <MC_Erroneous> a manpage maybe ?
33[22:03:51] <teraflops> MC_Erroneous: depending on your goal
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35[22:04:09] <teraflops> the intertubes are full of examples
36[22:04:11] <jonathan_x> MC_Erroneous: Just do cat /etc/inputrc first.
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39[22:05:21] <MC_Erroneous> jonathan_x: i was looking for .inputrc
40[22:05:35] <jonathan_x> MC_Erroneous: It's gonna be the same file man.
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42[22:05:47] <jonathan_x> MC_Erroneous: With the same type of contents I mean. You wanted an example. That is it.
43[22:06:00] <MC_Erroneous> dot by dor... ohhh baby..
44[22:06:08] <jonathan_x> MC_Erroneous: You'll have to do something yourself you know, or just google.
45[22:06:27] <MC_Erroneous> jonathan_x: thanks ..
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50[22:09:51] <MC_Erroneous> jonathan_x: irc needs you.....
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58[22:14:15] <MC_Erroneous> jonathan_x: you solved my trouble , i just copied inputrc to .inputrc in /etc/ -directory...
59[22:14:26] <jonathan_x> Lol.
60[22:14:31] <jonathan_x> Well that was easy wasn't it, thanks.
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87[22:25:42] <jonathan_x> ,v owncloud
88[22:25:43] <judd> Package: owncloud on amd64 -- jessie-security: 7.0.4+dfsg-4~deb8u3
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91[22:26:06] <jonathan_x> I wonder why that package was removed...
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100[22:29:07] <tw> #858086
101[22:29:08] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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103[22:30:28] <tw> Security problems, api instability, dependent package breakage. Owncloud/nextcloud is basically a CF.
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105[22:31:10] <teraflops> clustrefuck
106[22:31:17] <teraflops> ter^
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111[22:36:05] <teraflops> ,v seafile
112[22:36:07] <judd> No package named 'seafile' was found in amd64.
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116[22:36:41] <teraflops> I tried safile a couple of years ago and it wasnt that bad
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151[22:58:53] <jonathan_x> It seems the problem with Owncloud was that they insisted users take a step by step upgrade process from one database to the next without providing the mechanism for it
152[22:59:01] <Lyberta> hi, I'm running postfix but get an error: replaced-url
153[22:59:02] <jonathan_x> And then putting it on downstream to achieve that path.
154[22:59:04] <jonathan_x> tw
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156[23:01:03] <jonathan_x> Most of the developers seemed rather arrogant and not willing to concede that it's their job to provide an upgrade mechanism.
157[23:01:19] <preaction> that's operations! i'm a developer!
158[23:01:36] <jonathan_x> And when it's undoable they blame the ones who try to skip it.
159[23:02:07] <jonathan_x> I'm a developer too, what's you point? :p.
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163[23:04:22] <teraflops> I'm enveloper
164[23:04:24] <preaction> my point is that too many developers find operations tasks beneath them, and feel that supporting users (or even having users) of the software is unnecessary to the project's goals
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171[23:08:18] <jonathan_x> Right.
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174[23:08:32] <jonathan_x> I get a bit depressed from reading their emails.
175[23:09:02] <jonathan_x> They insist on pooping out new versions each year but don't have time to ensure the databases can be upgraded.
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178[23:10:12] <jonathan_x> I mean just from reading that it is clear my 7.0 instance won't be upgradable at all.
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186[23:13:48] <jonathan_x> I am used to WordPress, it may not always work as well but at least it always has a database upgrade feature...
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203[23:20:53] <christia2> hey guys! I have a question, how should i modify my sources.list to start using testing instead of stable?
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205[23:21:07] <n-iCe> !testing
206[23:21:07] <dpkg> Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <buster>. See replaced-url
207[23:21:26] <n-iCe> !jessie->stretch
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220[23:30:17] <teraflops> !buster sources list
221[23:30:30] <teraflops> :\
222[23:31:48] <annadane> christia2, just replace "stable" with "testing" or preferably, replace "stretch" with "buster" so you don't get a nasty surprise when bullseye becomes the new testing
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226[23:33:41] <christia2> annadane: even on stretch/updates?
227[23:33:56] <annadane> yep
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230[23:34:38] <christia2> annadane: and then just upgrade?
231[23:35:01] <annadane> you need to then apt update + apt dist-upgrade
232[23:35:06] <christia2> ok
233[23:35:21] <annadane> just be aware of what apt is telling you so it doesn't remove 5738455 files
234[23:35:33] <annadane> you can apt upgrade to do it safely if there's some kind of transition happening
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