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• 3[00:01:03] <iffraff> Hi, I'm in dependency hell, I have a docker container and I'm trying to run a package called pngcrush, which has a dependency on libpng12 but that package doesn't exist. my research says that libpng12 doesn't exist on stretch. but it works locally. can anyne help me with this?
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• 22[00:06:01] <mirk0> greenbagels: that's it, sorry :)
• 23[00:07:16] <greenbagels> mirk0: np
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• 36[00:13:00] <mirk0> I want to install 32 bit libc, I typed in 'sudo apt-get install libc-bin:i386'. It says it can be harmful and warns that some packages must be removed. Am I typing the right command?
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• 59[00:17:28] <thiras> old proxmox user here. I'll deploy new dedicated tomorrow and i think i'm gonna with plain debian 9 instead of proxmox
• 60[00:17:31] <thiras> any tips?
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• 65[00:18:52] <annadane> thiras, replaced-url
• 66[00:19:16] <kion> installing Debian, what is the difference between debian desktop environment and GNOME?
• 67[00:19:23] <kion> I thought they were the same
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• 77[00:20:15] <annadane> kion, there isn't a difference. GNOME is the default, if you select debian desktop environment and nothing else
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• 79[00:20:48] <kion> annadane, ok That is what I thought! I like Gnome thanks!
• 80[00:21:06] <thiras> annadane, thanks for the books. but i was looking some tips particularly debian as KVM host
• 81[00:21:25] <thiras> I always use debian at production server. i want to use it at my kvm host too
• 82[00:21:40] <annadane> ah, sorry.
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• 84[00:22:17] <kion> annadane, So I wonder what happens if I choose Debian desktop Env and Gnome?
• 85[00:22:57] <annadane> kion, you just get GNOME
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• 87[00:23:55] <kion> annadane, Thanks !
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• 92[00:24:42] <msl09> hey, I'm trying to use udev to change the configurations of my wacom whenever I plug it in but in the log I see that the script I'm calling is returning "exit code 255" but I can't see the error
• 93[00:24:54] <msl09> is there a way to see the full message log from udev?
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• 104[00:29:11] <somiaj> msl09: maybe check logs like syslog, messages or dmesg, or journalctl
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• 109[00:29:56] <msl09> I'm checking journalctl and syslog
• 110[00:30:04] <msl09> my dmesg is empty
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• 120[00:36:38] <msl09> also I can't have the script save its own output because udev cannot write anywhere
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• 183[01:15:41] <msl09> for some reason just restarting udev solved the problem
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• 194[01:20:10] <somiaj> msl09: anything shoudl be able to write to /tmp if needed
• 195[01:20:30] <msl09> well it didn't
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• 197[01:21:09] <msl09> this guy seemed to have a similar problem replaced-url
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• 241[01:51:48] <Guest57070> I upgraded to debian 9 and the front panel audio is not working
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• 243[01:52:08] <ninjai> what can I do if the linux-headers are missing for my kernel in the repo?
• 244[01:52:29] <ninjai> debian 8, kernel 3.2.0-4-amd64
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• 254[01:58:09] <FMS> Maybe you can find it at packeges.debian.org ninjai
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• 264[02:03:59] <tw> 3.2.0-4-amd64 is a debian 7 kernel. Check the wheezy repos if you can't upgrade.
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• 275[02:09:13] <Ashraf> hi
• 276[02:09:19] <ninjai> thanks FMS
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• 279[02:10:21] <Ashraf> please am a new user on this linux......that why i try to find experts
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• 289[02:13:47] <ninjai> ashka, perhaps try asking a question
• 290[02:14:01] <ninjai> ashraf*
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• 388[02:39:27] <denis> i've updated
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• 391[02:39:34] <denis> debian stretch to buster
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• 395[02:40:05] <denis> and i'm having a little problem in gnome-shell. When i right click and choose one of the options like: Wallpaper it doesn't open
• 396[02:40:07] <denis> anything
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• 399[02:41:47] <denis> what can i do?
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• 405[02:43:05] <annadane> denis, #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
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• 407[02:43:10] <annadane> is the place for buster/sid questions
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• 488[03:44:15] <chaless_> hey guys
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• 490[03:44:30] <chaless_> i cant do yum update
• 491[03:44:37] <chaless_> replaced-url
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• 494[03:45:19] <chaless_> can someone help me?
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• 496[03:45:31] <chaless_> Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: base. Please verify its path and try again
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• 498[03:46:25] <crimsonmane> looks like you should be asking CentOS
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• 500[03:46:52] <chaless_> oh yeah
• 501[03:46:56] <chaless_> sorry haha
• 502[03:46:58] <annadane> yeah i was going to say
• 503[03:48:05] <chaless_> centos-unregistered Cannot send to channel
• 504[03:48:17] <chaless_> oh i hate it
• 505[03:48:27] <annadane> !centos
• 506[03:48:28] <dpkg> CentOS (Community ENTerprise Operating System) is a rebuild of the Red Hat Enterprise Linux RPMs by the community. replaced-url
• 507[03:48:34] <annadane> ah
• 508[03:49:34] <chaless_> #centos unable to join channel (address is banned)
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• 510[03:49:38] <chaless_> wow
• 511[03:49:52] <chaless_> i dont know whats happend
• 512[03:50:21] <chaless_> cause my nick is unregistered ?
• 513[03:50:29] <annadane> probably
• 514[03:50:37] <annadane> otherwise, enable ssl
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• 517[03:51:34] <chaless_> annadane
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• 519[03:51:48] <chaless_> Why dont you help me?
• 520[03:51:52] <chaless_> u can
• 521[03:51:54] <chaless_> haha
• 522[03:52:12] <annadane> what? i don't know why you can't get into their irc and i can't help you with centos
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• 524[03:52:34] <chaless_> you know fix it
• 525[03:52:36] <chaless_> ;(
• 526[03:52:38] <chaless_> haha
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• 535[03:59:45] <crimsonmane> chaless_: google "irc register nickname"
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• 542[04:07:33] <RoyK> crimsonmane: or google nickserv freenode register or just /msg nickserv help
• 543[04:08:23] <crimsonmane> or i could tell him why the repo isn't working, but that would be too easy
• 544[04:08:40] <dvs> yup
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• 575[04:22:52] <raynold> ahh it's a wonderful day
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• 680[05:39:26] <rue_mohr_> ok, its not strictly a debian question, but could anyone help walk me thru making a ramdisk for my new kernel?
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• 682[05:40:08] <rue_mohr_> I'm guiless...
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• 686[05:41:49] <somiaj> why not use the kernels debian provides? Otherwise I would check out some of the various guides to building kernels on debian.
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• 688[05:43:36] <rue_mohr_> the kernels debian provides take a long time to boot, and will not accept the nvidia drivers
• 689[05:44:29] <rue_mohr_> to get X back, it looks like I need to use the manuf drivers, and they wont install with the debian kernel
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• 691[05:44:45] <somiaj> what? I use the debian kernels just fine with the nvidia drivers don't have troubles booting
• 692[05:44:46] <rue_mohr_> and nobody has been much help to that effect
• 693[05:45:01] <somiaj> manuf drivers? What graphics card do you ahve?
• 694[05:45:08] <rue_mohr_> GF106
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• 697[05:46:14] <rue_mohr_> so back to my origional question, how do I make a ramdisk?
• 698[05:46:44] <rue_mohr_> maybe I dont need one if I build in the proper drivers for getting to the hard disks
• 699[05:47:12] <rue_mohr_> I think you only need a ramdisk to give the kernel access to the modules to access the filesystem
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• 701[05:47:24] <rue_mohr_> ... kernel 2.6 was nice...
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• 709[05:51:49] <rue_mohr_> somiaj I feel like I been written off as a troll?
• 710[05:52:13] <rue_mohr_> if you would like to help me get X working instead, I really dont mind
• 711[05:52:30] <rue_mohr_> I'm just starting from the ground, where I usually do after a kernel change
• 712[05:53:07] <somiaj> I don't see why the nvidia drivers from debian won't just work. They support the 700M family of gpu's which that appears to use. It isn't some optimus setup?
• 713[05:53:28] <somiaj> it was working before and you changed your kernel, what version of debian are you running?
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• 718[05:55:02] <rue_mohr_> somiaj the debian drivers aren't working, I cant get X to take them
• 719[05:55:28] <rue_mohr_> I'm still running the debian kernel 4.9.0-3
• 720[05:55:30] <rue_mohr_> pae
• 721[05:56:08] <rue_mohr_> is there a util to give me lsmod as a tree?
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• 723[05:57:20] <somiaj> what do you mean you can't get X to take them, did you load the module correctly?
• 724[05:57:53] <somiaj> but I'm not familar with that gpu/cpu combo. I can't verify forusre they are supported, but I don't see how newer nvidia drivers will help.
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• 734[06:02:48] <rue_mohr_> its a tower, not a laptop
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• 736[06:03:25] <rue_mohr_> X is throwing me errors regarding video drivers
• 737[06:03:46] <somiaj> what errors? did you properly build the nvidia module for your kernel.
• 738[06:03:53] <rue_mohr_> in the past, I'v NOT been able to make the noview (neoveau) drivers work (for prolonged periods of time)
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• 740[06:04:19] <somiaj> everything thing I see says it should be supported just fine with the nvidia drivers in stretch with the stretch kernel. I don't see why you need to be building your own kernel for this, or why it would make it work.
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• 742[06:04:49] <rue_mohr_> I couldn't build the drivers, the build directory was missing in the modules, and even after I made it, it would error out trying to build
• 743[06:05:07] <somiaj> how did you try to build the module, did you follow the instructions on the debian wiki?
• 744[06:05:14] <somiaj> !nvidia dkms
• 745[06:05:14] <dpkg> For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist.
• 746[06:05:24] <rue_mohr_> I been at this for years, I ALWAYS end up having to build my own drivers
• 747[06:05:30] <somiaj> sounds like your issue was with building the modules
• 748[06:05:38] <rue_mohr_> and configuring X
• 749[06:06:04] <rue_mohr_> but I can make this all work if I start from the ground, build my own kernel, and use the nvidia drivers
• 750[06:06:29] <somiaj> that is most likey your problem, you should really just use the debian kernel and the auto dkms build scripts. Works great here.
• 751[06:06:43] <rue_mohr_> but the kernel I made cant boot cause it dosn't have a ramdisk, cause I used teh debian kenel config and, from what I cn tell, there is no ata driver
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• 753[06:06:44] <somiaj> but we don't really support building kernels and using the upstream nvidia drivers here
• 754[06:06:50] <rue_mohr_> so I'm reconfiguring, rebuilding
• 755[06:07:05] <somiaj> you could probably save a lot of time by just doing this the 'debian way'
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• 757[06:07:25] <rue_mohr_> somiaj well, I'm guiless, help walk me thru the suggested nvidia process
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• 759[06:08:05] <somiaj> follo what the bot said. For me all I have to do is apt-get install linux-headers-amd64 nvidia-kernel-dkms
• 760[06:08:33] <somiaj> that builds the driver, then a small modification to xorg.conf and I'm using the drivers.
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• 764[06:11:18] <rue_mohr_> ok hold on, my processor is an AMD Athalon 2 X3 455
• 765[06:11:28] <rue_mohr_> should I be using 686-pae?
• 766[06:11:47] <somiaj> I would be using 64bit if it was me, but if you want use 686-pae, and replace the headers above correctly
• 767[06:12:12] <rue_mohr_> I'm happy at 32 bits, is that the only difference?
• 768[06:12:29] <somiaj> yea, you just need the correct headers for your kernel.
• 769[06:12:38] <rue_mohr_> k, I have the headers installed tho
• 770[06:12:55] <rue_mohr_> just a sec, it might have been a botched install, let me remove/reinstall
• 771[06:12:57] <rue_mohr_> purge?
• 772[06:12:58] <somiaj> then isntalling nvidia-kernel-dkms will build the drivers.
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• 775[06:13:28] <rue_mohr_> (I'll start you at terminal #5...)
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• 778[06:15:18] <rue_mohr_> fatalerrors:could not locate dkms.conf file
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• 780[06:15:36] <somiaj> you have something messed up on your system then
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• 782[06:15:44] <zentris> Running Strech, added "deb replaced-url
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• 784[06:15:48] <rue_mohr_> I need to stop using tab for general word completion
• 785[06:15:52] <zentris> However, when I try to "apt install torbrowser-launcher -t stretch-backports" I get Package torbrowser-launcher is not available, but is referred to by another package.
• 786[06:16:12] <rue_mohr_> somiaj well, ok, cmon, lets climb the tree you planted
• 787[06:16:16] <zentris> Basically cannot figure out how to install torbrowser-launcher (tor browser) on Debian Stretch, any clue?
• 788[06:16:16] <somiaj> my guess it has to do with the custom stuff you have done
• 789[06:16:22] <somiaj> ,v torbrowser-launcher
• 790[06:16:23] <judd> Package: torbrowser-launcher on amd64 -- wheezy-backports/contrib: 0.1.9-1+deb8u3~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 0.1.9-1+deb8u3; jessie-backports/contrib: 0.2.6-2~bpo8+1; jessie-backports-sloppy/contrib: 0.2.8-1~bpo8+1; stretch-backports/contrib: 0.2.8-1~bpo9+1; buster/contrib: 0.2.8-1; sid/contrib: 0.2.8-1
• 791[06:16:28] <rue_mohr_> lets fix dkms...
• 792[06:16:45] <somiaj> zentris: the browser is in contrib, you need to add contrib and maybe non-free to your sources.list
• 793[06:16:48] <somiaj> !contrib
• 794[06:16:48] <dpkg> [contrib] Debian packages that contain <DFSG>-compliant software, but have dependencies not in main (possibly packaged for Debian in non-free). To get contrib packages, add lines like "deb replaced-url
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• 796[06:17:09] <zentris> thank you somiaj will try that
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• 798[06:18:03] <rue_mohr_> dkms wasn't installed
• 799[06:18:12] <rue_mohr_> maybe that should be a dependency for the headers package?
• 800[06:18:16] <rue_mohr_> !!
• 801[06:18:16] <dpkg> I'm not your csh prompt!
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• 803[06:18:42] <somiaj> rue_mohr_: why? It should be a dependency of the nvidia-kernel-dkms package I asked you to install
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• 806[06:19:27] <zentris> somiaj: worked now, thanks again
• 807[06:19:29] <rue_mohr_> after installing dkms, it still cant find the dkms.conf file
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• 811[06:20:06] <rue_mohr_> this is just trying to install the kernel headers, I'm not at the vnidia one yet
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• 814[06:20:38] <somiaj> then you must have other packages alreayd installed, do you have any dkms packages installed already?
• 815[06:21:51] <rue_mohr_> I'd probably already installed the nvidia-kernel-dkms and it bailed for a similar reason
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• 817[06:22:29] <somiaj> dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-kernel-dkms
• 818[06:22:38] <somiaj> but with everything you have done, you may need to clean stuff up.
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• 821[06:25:55] <rue_mohr_> ah it wasn't installed,
• 822[06:26:08] <rue_mohr_> and it looks like it just locked up trying to uninstall the nvidia stuff
• 823[06:26:13] <somiaj> anyways on a clean system, this is mostly automatic
• 824[06:26:32] <rue_mohr_> thats great, I'm not reinstalling this system
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• 827[06:26:51] <rue_mohr_> yea, it locked
• 828[06:26:52] <somiaj> so then you have to track down stuff that is broken. Does apt-get -f install try to do anything?
• 829[06:27:21] <rue_mohr_> right now apt it locked in one of its subprocesses trying to uninstall nvidia drivers
• 830[06:27:31] <rue_mohr_> somiaj so, about that ramdisk?
• 831[06:27:36] <rue_mohr_> :)
• 832[06:27:53] <rue_mohr_> I'm gonna have to kill apt, thats gonna piss it off
• 833[06:28:00] <somiaj> if you build the kernel the debian way with make deb-pkg, it should make the randisk for you.
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• 836[06:28:25] <rue_mohr_> somiaj that would put me at square 1 tho
• 837[06:28:45] <somiaj> you have a lot of unstandard issues which I don't really want to dive to the bottom of.
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• 839[06:28:52] <somiaj> You'll get better support doing things the debian way.
• 840[06:28:58] <rue_mohr_> I'd have the kernel I have now, that wont take the nvidia drivers
• 841[06:29:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1609
• 842[06:29:15] <rue_mohr_> somiaj I know
• 843[06:29:26] <rue_mohr_> but #linuxhelp isn't what it was back in 2002
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• 845[06:29:48] <somiaj> maybe ##linux
• 846[06:30:00] <somiaj> there are also lots of guids for building your own kernel on debian.
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• 848[06:32:21] <rue_mohr_> somiaj I have an idea
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• 851[06:33:26] <rue_mohr_> because of a dependency loop where libc required a newer kernel than I was running, and for that I needed to install ramdisk-utils, which I couldn't because it depended on the libc that wouldn't isntall, I copied the kernel and modules from another system
• 852[06:33:39] <rue_mohr_> as such, there could be some minor files missing
• 853[06:33:57] <rue_mohr_> how can I reinstall the kernel package over the existing files?
• 854[06:34:01] <rue_mohr_> without removing it
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• 856[06:34:48] <rue_mohr_> (dont get me wrong, I'm working on both our solutions in parallel)
• 857[06:35:17] <rue_mohr_> oh, and how do I get apt-get to abort trying to install the packages its working on
• 858[06:35:25] <somiaj> over existing files? You shoudln't be doing manually installing files in locations debian packages put things.
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• 860[06:35:31] <rue_mohr_> cause, that'll be a dependant issue
• 861[06:35:49] <rue_mohr_> because of a dependency loop where libc required a newer kernel than I was running, and for that I needed to install ramdisk-utils, which I couldn't because it depended on the libc that wouldn't isntall, I copied the kernel and modules from another system
• 862[06:35:52] <somiaj> at this point it sounds like you have a frakendebian, what is it doing downloading packages or other stuff?
• 863[06:35:55] <rue_mohr_> it was locked
• 864[06:36:10] <somiaj> wait you have installed a different libc6 than the stock.
• 865[06:36:16] <rue_mohr_> no
• 866[06:36:29] <rue_mohr_> I copied the kernel and modules from another debian system
• 867[06:36:40] <rue_mohr_> it was the only way to unlock the dependency loop
• 868[06:36:42] <somiaj> yea I'm done trying to help, my advice, do a clean install and work from there, it will be much faster than what you are doing.
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• 870[06:36:58] <rue_mohr_> this was installed in 2002, I'm not giving up now
• 871[06:36:59] <somiaj> if you are only using debian stable you should not be finding dependency loops, these come from breaking things
• 872[06:37:26] <somiaj> ahh, well it would be a good time to change to amd64, since a reinstall makes that the easiest.
• 873[06:37:30] <rue_mohr_> ugh, all that and all I have is a broken apt-get
• 874[06:37:39] <rue_mohr_> not reinstalling
• 875[06:38:21] <Rusty1_> reinstall , or spend your life here
• 876[06:38:24] <rue_mohr_> so apt-get is going to try to run a script that locks up every time I run it...
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• 879[06:40:08] <rue_mohr_> if I have a package that is broken for install, how do i remove it from the install-pending list?
• 880[06:40:31] <rue_mohr_> apt-get will lock up if I try to install, I need to get it to back down
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• 882[06:40:53] <somiaj> !nst
• 883[06:40:57] <somiaj> !bat
• 884[06:40:57] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
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• 886[06:41:07] <somiaj> you give vauge info, you need to give details if you expect much help
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• 889[06:41:56] <rue_mohr_> the nvidia-kernel-dkms package has a script it tries to run that locks up
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• 891[06:42:15] <rue_mohr_> now that I'v told apt I want it installed, it will insist on trying to install that package
• 892[06:42:42] <rue_mohr_> and it'll lock up every time, I need to tell it, or edit a magic file, to get it to NOT try to finish installing that package
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• 895[06:43:41] <rue_mohr_> dpkg says that nvidia-kernel-dkms is not installed
• 896[06:43:42] <dpkg> okay, rue_mohr_
• 897[06:44:15] <rue_mohr_> you see how helping me with a ramdisk might have been a better road?
• 898[06:44:42] <somiaj> The bot asked you for fairly specific information to provide.
• 899[06:44:51] <rue_mohr_> now I'm up the creek *and* have no paddle
• 900[06:45:06] <rue_mohr_> I'm on a text terminal cause my gui is broken, remmeber?
• 901[06:45:18] <somiaj> so, lots of ways to provide that info
• 902[06:45:31] <rue_mohr_> even if I was into typing out a 1000 line file, I'v got no webbrowser to do it
• 903[06:45:42] <somiaj> !pastebinit
• 904[06:45:42] <dpkg> A command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>.
• 905[06:45:48] <somiaj> use ssh from another machine, and so forth.
• 906[06:46:18] <somiaj> but without output it is hard to debug what is going on.
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• 909[06:48:26] <somiaj> if the postinst/postrm scripts are failing they are located in /var/lib/dpkg/info
• 910[06:48:37] <rue_mohr_> I dont have the run text, shall I tell you that the nvidia-kernel-dkms package installed version is none?
• 911[06:48:48] <rue_mohr_> ah
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• 913[06:49:20] <rue_mohr_> wholy &*%@#% there are a few files in there
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• 917[06:49:41] <somiaj> well of course, every packages post/pre isntall scripts, and other stuff about the package is stored there
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• 919[06:49:59] <rue_mohr_> there is nothing in there for the kernel nvidia package
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• 924[06:50:27] <rue_mohr_> oh, its an alias
• 925[06:50:35] <rue_mohr_> aka under another name
• 926[06:50:57] <somiaj> well that package isn't installed. Again you aren't giving output so it is just a shot in the dark.
• 927[06:51:17] <rue_mohr_> its hard to show the output of a locked apt-get
• 928[06:51:27] <rue_mohr_> oh idea
• 929[06:51:51] <somiaj> but enough, maybe someone else will help you. But my suggestion is just do a fresh install and then do things the debian way. These issues shouldn't be happening with a clean debian install.
• 930[06:51:53] <rue_mohr_> oh... stand by
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• 932[06:53:02] <rue_mohr_> yea, my paddle floated away
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• 935[06:53:59] <TTT> Hi, not sure if this is the right channel to ask this (which one is?) I have a Debian PC/router with 1 wired ethernet port, and a wireless card. Right now it uses ethernet port for PPPoE, and creates a local net over wifi. I want to add a wired local network, but I cannot add more ethernet ports. I guess I can create eth1:1 device in Linux and route traffic via that. My question is- if I buy a managed switch (say TP-Link TL-SG108E), can I separate the PPPoE WAN
• 936[06:53:59] <TTT> traffic from local traffic?
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• 938[06:54:18] <rue_mohr_> hmm, apt-get install reports that /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked
• 939[06:54:26] <rue_mohr_> prolly from having killed apt-get
• 940[06:54:40] <rue_mohr_> ... know what the lock file is?
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• 942[06:55:30] <rue_mohr_> oo I think I got it happy
• 943[06:55:43] <rue_mohr_> ok
• 944[06:56:00] <rue_mohr_> your solution died, back to mine..
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• 946[06:56:20] <rue_mohr_> "make"
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• 948[06:56:48] <Tom-_> rue_mohr_, check to see if there's a perl debconf process running
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• 955[07:03:05] <rue_mohr_> I was able to ask it to uninstall the package and it did that before trying to finish the install
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• 957[07:04:18] <rue_mohr_> I dont know if i'm right, but I'm compiling a kernel with the required ata support, which I think means I dont need a ramdisk to boot
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• 959[07:05:33] <rue_mohr_> but your right, there is
• 960[07:06:31] <rue_mohr_> for the record, nvidia-installer-cleanup.postinst
• 961[07:06:40] <rue_mohr_> apt-get clean
• 962[07:06:45] <rue_mohr_> wrong console
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• 967[07:08:13] <rue_mohr_> Tom-_ thanks
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• 974[07:14:20] <rue_mohr_> its funny, if you took a history of #debian since 2002, you would proabably see the progression of where I am today
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• 980[07:17:45] <rue_mohr_> so, is there a tree view of lsmod?
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• 985[07:19:15] <n_blownapart> hi how do I turn off exit confirmation on the gnome term? I tried gconf-editor but cannot find gnome-terminal under "apps" thanks
• 986[07:19:26] <n_blownapart> jessie 8
• 987[07:20:16] <rue_mohr_> hmm
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• 989[07:20:23] <rue_mohr_> did you look in...
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• 995[07:21:24] <rue_mohr_> /var/... hmm no...
• 996[07:21:30] <rue_mohr_> /etc/...
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• 998[07:23:02] <rue_mohr_> /etc/gnome/...
• 999[07:23:09] <rue_mohr_> n_blownapart you still here?
• 1000[07:23:18] <n_blownapart> yeah thanks
• 1001[07:23:55] <n_blownapart> but I meant that when you open gconf-editor, you navigate to apps -> gnome-terminal ...
• 1002[07:23:57] <n_blownapart> rue_mohr_,
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• 1005[07:24:21] <n_blownapart> but I cannot navigate to gnome-terminal
• 1006[07:24:22] <rue_mohr_> but your talking about it confirming when you quit, right?
• 1007[07:24:27] <n_blownapart> yeah
• 1008[07:24:34] <rue_mohr_> wait, what?
• 1009[07:24:40] <rue_mohr_> you can start it right?
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• 1011[07:25:29] <rue_mohr_> hmm I use xterm, it looks like I dont have gnome-terminal installed
• 1012[07:25:37] <rue_mohr_> hey, use xterm!
• 1013[07:25:38] <somiaj> n_blownapart: does gconf-editor give you the option to create new items? maybe just create it.
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• 1015[07:25:56] <n_blownapart> on a blog it said to open gconf-editor and go to apps -> gnome-terminal -> global and disable confirm_window_close.
• 1016[07:26:29] <somiaj> n_blownapart: yea I see that, maybe gnome-terminal reads that, but for some reason there is nothing there on your system.
• 1017[07:26:38] <somiaj> I know with files if it isn't there you can just create it
• 1018[07:26:58] <n_blownapart> couldn't I just use the cli to turn that off?
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• 1020[07:27:22] <somiaj> n_blownapart: read the manpage, it may mention ways to do that.
• 1021[07:27:46] <somiaj> replaced-url
• 1022[07:27:59] <somiaj> maybe use gconftool-2 and manually create the option
• 1023[07:28:02] <n_blownapart> thanks somiaj rue_mohr_
• 1024[07:28:21] <n_blownapart> somiaj, no clue how to do that
• 1025[07:29:01] <somiaj> but I'm unsure where to go next, my guess is you can manaully create that key and it should be honored provided the jessie version supports that. I don't know why it is not there.
• 1026[07:29:36] <somiaj> Other option is as suggested, use another termainal emulator. But it seems gconftool-2 might be able to create that key for you.
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• 1028[07:30:01] <n_blownapart> sorry its above my head thanks kindly somiaj
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• 1030[07:30:21] <n_blownapart> so complicated
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• 1032[07:30:38] <somiaj> gconftool-2 --type=bool --set "/apps/gnome-terminal-global/confirm_window_close" "false"
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• 1034[07:30:56] <somiaj> I belive, provided the folders you go thorugh are called apps/gnome-terminal
• 1035[07:31:05] <somiaj> opps there is atypo, that should be gnome-terminal/global (not -)
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• 1039[07:32:12] <rue_mohr_> n_blownapart you should be able to run that ok if you can get the terminal up
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• 1042[07:32:45] <rue_mohr_> gconftool-2 --type=bool --set "/apps/gnome-terminal/global/confirm_window_close" "false"
• 1043[07:32:56] <n_blownapart> but I cannot get past apps in the config editor. there's all this weird stuff like blueman aisleriot etc
• 1044[07:33:05] <rue_mohr_> nono
• 1045[07:33:11] <rue_mohr_> thats a command line to do it
• 1046[07:33:13] <rue_mohr_> ^^
• 1047[07:33:35] <n_blownapart> I know, so will that create the files/ directories you mean/
• 1048[07:33:36] <n_blownapart> ?
• 1049[07:33:47] <rue_mohr_> try it :)
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• 1052[07:33:59] <rue_mohr_> I dont have a gui right now
• 1053[07:34:17] <somiaj> n_blownapart: my understanding is it will create that key for you. You should be able to then find it using gconf-editor aftwards
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• 1055[07:34:32] <n_blownapart> hold on thanks. checking that.
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