People who Joins , Parts or Quits a chatroom
this is #debian an IRC -Channel at freenode (freenode IRC service closed 2021-06-01)
0 [00:00:46] *** Joins: mark___ (~mark@replaced-ip )
1 [00:00:49] *** Joins: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip )
2 [00:02:16] *** Parts: random_numbers (~random@replaced-ip )
3 [00:02:49] *** Joins: bielewelt1 (~bielewelt@replaced-ip )
4 [00:02:49] *** Joins: badargo (~badargo@replaced-ip )
5 [00:03:05] *** Quits: Lal_ (uid175029@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
6 [00:03:06] *** Joins: tuf (~tuf@replaced-ip )
7 [00:03:21] *** Quits: tuf (~tuf@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
8 [00:03:45] *** Quits: dArK_IcE (~lawl@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
9 [00:04:17] *** Quits: bielewelt (~bielewelt@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
10 [00:05:15] *** Joins: smakked (~ado@replaced-ip )
11 [00:06:20] <jmcnaught> ,i vmg
12 [00:06:22] <judd> Package vmg (utils, extra) in stretch/amd64: Virtual Magnifying Glass. Version: 3.7.1-2+b1; Size: 1567.4k; Installed: 5867k; Homepage: replaced-url
13 [00:06:38] <jmcnaught> ryouma: did you try this program? it's in jessie-backports
14 [00:06:45] *** Joins: quiritus (~quiritus@replaced-ip )
15 [00:07:19] *** Quits: OS-4444 (~OS-53@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
16 [00:07:51] *** Quits: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
17 [00:10:15] *** Joins: dArK_IcE (~lawl@replaced-ip )
18 [00:10:24] *** Joins: AimHere (~David@replaced-ip )
19 [00:10:35] <badargo> i finally understood what man chmod means concerning the "umask bits" :P that man is poorly writen :S
20 [00:10:39] *** Quits: TomasCZ (~TomasCZ@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
21 [00:11:08] *** Joins: TomasCZ (~TomasCZ@replaced-ip )
22 [00:13:34] <badargo> "If none of these are given, the effect is as if (a) were given,
23 [00:13:36] <badargo> but bits that are set in the umask are not affected." -> these umask means are the umask values. this means chmod wont unmask the values, change them :P
24 [00:13:50] <badargo> umask bits*
25 [00:14:04] *** Quits: HeinzBoettjer (~Heinz@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
26 [00:15:02] *** Quits: quiritus (~quiritus@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
27 [00:16:04] *** Quits: hele (~hele@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
28 [00:16:55] *** Joins: OS-4444 (~OS-53@replaced-ip )
29 [00:17:05] *** Quits: martinus__ (~martin@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
30 [00:17:51] <jmcnaught> badargo: Please use #debian-offtopic for this kind of discussion, and reserve #debian for support requests
31 [00:18:27] *** Quits: _root_ (~kvirc@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
32 [00:18:39] *** Joins: ledeni (~ledeni@replaced-ip )
33 [00:19:41] *** Joins: netzfisch (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
34 [00:20:11] <badargo> jmcnaught: u mean this #debian in freenode works the same way as that from debian servers where u cant chat about debian?
35 [00:21:08] <badargo> i always see ppl chatting freely here
36 [00:21:27] <jmcnaught> !ot
37 [00:21:28] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
38 [00:22:30] *** Joins: Futha (~Futha@replaced-ip )
39 [00:22:52] <jmcnaught> same bot and everything. the reason it's like this is because a lot of people here help while they're at work or otherwise busy, and only check for support questions periodically. If the channel is full of off-topic chatter, then support questions will be missed
40 [00:23:05] <jmcnaught> besides, is it more difficult to type in #debian-offtopic or something?
41 [00:23:23] <badargo> debian-offtopics room tend to be dead
42 [00:23:53] <badargo> and have 10 times less users
43 [00:24:35] *** Quits: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
44 [00:25:03] *** Joins: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip )
45 [00:25:17] *** Joins: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip )
46 [00:25:21] <jmcnaught> you do not need an audience of 1600 people to document yourself learning linux
47 [00:26:49] <badargo> well, we were chatting about chmod = in this room yesterday and it was quite fun so i just brought the subject up again
48 [00:26:53] *** Joins: jellycode (~jellycode@replaced-ip )
49 [00:27:02] <jellycode> hi all, i'm really struggling with a new debian vm
50 [00:27:20] <m_> What about talking about Netrunner? It's based on Debian and uses Debian repositories.
51 [00:27:21] <jellycode> the network adapter wasn't right when it was installed, so openssh-server isn't installed
52 [00:27:30] *** Joins: HeinzBoettjer (~Heinz@replaced-ip )
53 [00:27:35] <jellycode> the sources.list file was almost empty
54 [00:27:51] <jmcnaught> m_: other distros are also offtopic here
55 [00:27:56] <jellycode> i tried adding some sources i found online, all of them say openssh-server isn't found
56 [00:28:17] <ryouma> jmcnaught: thank you. didn't check to see if it was in backports.
57 [00:28:32] <jmcnaught> jellycode: online where? There is an example sources.list on the Debian wiki: replaced-url
58 [00:28:57] <m_> ok jmcnaught
59 [00:28:59] <Eduard_Munteanu> jellycode, and don't forget to apt-get update
60 [00:29:18] *** kabout|x is now known as kabouter
61 [00:29:29] <jellycode> i did run apt-get update, and i did use the one on the wiki, however i changed the word stretch to jessie
62 [00:29:32] <ryouma> jmcnaught: it is shocking that the wiki says not to ue "xrandr --dpi 200". this is my mainstay of making fonts legible. i have to change gtk and qt and grub and various programs ON TOP of this. but to not be able to do this would make me stop using debian, having used it for many years.
63 [00:30:26] <Eduard_Munteanu> jellycode, have you installed Jessie?
64 [00:30:42] *** Quits: krabador (~krabador@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
65 [00:30:48] *** Quits: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
66 [00:31:05] *** Joins: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip )
67 [00:31:41] *** Quits: silverhom (~silverhom@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
68 [00:32:19] *** Joins: high_fiver_ (~high_five@replaced-ip )
69 [00:32:33] <jellycode> I used hte ISO named: debian-9.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso
70 [00:33:13] *** Quits: high_fiver (~high_five@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
71 [00:33:38] <jmcnaught> ryouma: that's usually an indication that there's a newer preferred way to solve this problem, and/or that the deprecated solution in some way interferes with something else
72 [00:35:42] <ryouma> the wiki does not say so
73 [00:35:45] *** Quits: netzfisch (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: netzfisch)
74 [00:35:50] <jellycode> uhhh... i think that's stretch
75 [00:36:26] *** Quits: electro33 (uid613@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
76 [00:36:29] *** Quits: b3rend (~berend@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
77 [00:36:36] <badargo> ##linux
78 [00:37:04] *** Joins: bielewelt (~bielewelt@replaced-ip )
79 [00:38:16] <jmcnaught> ryouma: it seems that the authors of that wiki page believe that the other options under Full Screen magnification support are superior to changing DPI, possibly in part because it requires changes to be made in so many places
80 [00:38:27] *** Quits: dArK_IcE (~lawl@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
81 [00:38:35] *** Quits: TheCoffeMaker (~TheCoffeM@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
82 [00:38:36] *** Joins: Strife89 (~quassel@replaced-ip )
83 [00:38:46] *** Quits: chip_ (~chip@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
84 [00:39:35] *** Quits: bielewelt1 (~bielewelt@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
85 [00:40:02] <ryouma> jmcnaught: so to read every single line of text i ahve to zoom and go horizontally and then go back to the beginning of the next line? this is progress?
86 [00:40:27] *** Quits: Strife1989 (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
87 [00:40:32] *** Quits: ArchDuke (~ArchDuke@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
88 [00:40:54] *** Joins: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip )
89 [00:40:56] <ryouma> xrandr changes many thigns all at once, which is exactly what is needed. in fact, xrandr dpi should be respected by all programs.
90 [00:40:58] *** Quits: id4rk (~id4rk@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My 5K iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
91 [00:41:18] <jellycode> ok, got it working
92 [00:41:23] <jellycode> now sudo isn't even installed
93 [00:41:30] <jellycode> i installed it via apt
94 [00:41:35] <jellycode> now i can't edit the sudoers file with vi
95 [00:41:39] <jellycode> says i need visudo
96 [00:41:43] <jellycode> but apt-get install can't find that
97 [00:41:44] *** Joins: buffal0 (~buffal0@replaced-ip )
98 [00:42:15] <jmcnaught> jellycode: it's in the sudo package
99 [00:42:16] *** Joins: x032cx (~lxuser@replaced-ip )
100 [00:42:41] *** Joins: knidos (~knidos@replaced-ip )
101 [00:43:01] *** Quits: satbyy (satbyy@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
102 [00:43:58] *** Joins: chip_ (~chip@replaced-ip )
103 [00:44:12] <jellycode> thx, got it
104 [00:44:21] *** Joins: satbyy (satbyy@replaced-ip )
105 [00:45:04] *** Quits: n3ss (~n3ss@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
106 [00:45:21] <jmcnaught> jellycode: FYI on Debian you can add users to the sudo group with "adduser username sudo", if you want to grant access without editing sudoers
107 [00:45:26] *** Parts: menace (~knorr@replaced-ip )
108 [00:45:27] *** Joins: Crushing (~Crushing@replaced-ip )
109 [00:46:02] <jmcnaught> if you need something more finegrained, i recommend "visudo -f /etc/sudoers.d/foobar" or whatever instead of editing the distro supplied file
110 [00:46:42] *** Quits: badargo (~badargo@replaced-ip ) (Quit: badargo)
111 [00:47:00] *** Joins: badargo (~badargo@replaced-ip )
112 [00:47:18] *** Joins: buffffal00 (~buffal0@replaced-ip )
113 [00:47:19] *** Quits: j08nY (~j08nY@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
114 [00:48:00] <jellycode> thanks, adduser would have been better
115 [00:48:48] *** Quits: BuDDy2001 (~budd@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
116 [00:48:48] *** Quits: beaver (~none@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
117 [00:49:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1695
118 [00:49:41] *** Joins: deep-book-gk_ (~1wm_su@replaced-ip )
119 [00:50:22] *** Quits: buffal0 (~buffal0@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
120 [00:50:31] *** Quits: chip_ (~chip@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
121 [00:50:31] *** Parts: badargo (~badargo@replaced-ip )
122 [00:50:37] *** Joins: beaver (~none@replaced-ip )
123 [00:51:34] *** Parts: deep-book-gk_ (~1wm_su@replaced-ip )
124 [00:52:50] *** Joins: PlasmaStar (Plasma@replaced-ip )
125 [00:53:23] *** Quits: PlasmaStar (Plasma@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
126 [00:53:23] *** Quits: jellycode (~jellycode@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
127 [00:53:57] <jmcnaught> ryouma: if you can find a way to get GNOME working on your computer I still think testing it via a live disk is worthwhile. It has an accessibility menu in the top right of the login screen where you can turn on large text, zoom, screen reader et al. (and of course keyboard shortcuts that you can look up beforehand)
128 [00:54:01] *** Joins: metax (~metax@replaced-ip )
129 [00:54:24] *** Joins: notebox (~textual@replaced-ip )
130 [00:54:25] *** Joins: PlasmaStar (Plasma@replaced-ip )
131 [00:54:50] *** Joins: dArK_IcE (~lawl@replaced-ip )
132 [00:55:21] *** Quits: PlasmaStar (Plasma@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
133 [00:55:36] *** Joins: afidegnum (~afidegnum@replaced-ip )
134 [00:55:46] <afidegnum> hello, there have been a flood of attempting to login into my SMTP server,
135 [00:55:51] <afidegnum> 2017-07-23 00:30:18 login authenticator failed for (User) [91.200.12.121]: 435 Unable to authenticate at present (set_id=bobby): failed to connect to socket /var/run/c$
136 [00:55:58] *** Quits: notebox (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
137 [00:56:02] <afidegnum> with numerous ip addresses
138 [00:56:32] *** Joins: e64 (~e14@replaced-ip )
139 [00:56:33] *** Joins: chip_ (~chip@replaced-ip )
140 [00:57:00] *** Joins: PlasmaStar (Plasma@replaced-ip )
141 [00:57:14] *** Joins: Zvmdyv (nnn@replaced-ip )
142 [00:57:57] *** Quits: PlasmaStar (Plasma@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
143 [00:58:07] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
144 [00:58:13] <petemc> afidegnum: thats to be expected
145 [00:58:48] <afidegnum> ?
146 [00:59:18] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip )
147 [00:59:27] *** Quits: sumyunseal (~sumyunsea@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
148 [00:59:41] *** Quits: teclo- (42@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
149 [01:02:40] *** Quits: high_fiver_ (~high_five@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
150 [01:02:53] *** Joins: ceramik (~ceramik@replaced-ip )
151 [01:04:03] *** Quits: enoch85 (~enoch85@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Tech And Me - ZNC server 1.6.3 - ##replaced-url
152 [01:04:25] *** Joins: netx (~netx@replaced-ip )
153 [01:04:39] *** Joins: enoch85 (~enoch85@replaced-ip )
154 [01:04:39] *** Quits: enoch85 (~enoch85@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
155 [01:04:39] *** Joins: enoch85 (~enoch85@replaced-ip )
156 [01:05:35] *** Quits: dohfish (~oemillak@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
157 [01:06:15] *** Parts: nath (~nathanael@replaced-ip )
158 [01:07:05] *** Joins: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip )
159 [01:07:13] *** Quits: dArK_IcE (~lawl@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
160 [01:07:19] *** Joins: MarioBranco (~MarioBran@replaced-ip )
161 [01:07:20] *** Quits: MarioBranco (~MarioBran@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
162 [01:07:25] *** Joins: dArK_IcE (~lawl@replaced-ip )
163 [01:07:40] *** Joins: debroooo (c50f34d9@replaced-ip )
164 [01:07:41] *** Joins: pavlx (~pavlx@replaced-ip )
165 [01:08:09] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: jackNemrod)
166 [01:08:11] *** Quits: rkj (~rkj@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
167 [01:08:27] *** Joins: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
168 [01:08:33] *** Joins: rkj (~rkj@replaced-ip )
169 [01:08:57] *** Joins: m0d3rnX (~mkd3d@replaced-ip )
170 [01:09:09] *** Quits: m0d3rnX (~mkd3d@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
171 [01:09:09] *** Quits: mibo (~mibo@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
172 [01:09:16] *** Quits: dArK_IcE (~lawl@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
173 [01:09:17] <debroooo> Why Debian automatically open ssh/http ports when I install packages?
174 [01:09:56] <jmcnaught> Debian assumes that you install that software because you want to use it
175 [01:11:19] *** Quits: netx (~netx@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Bye)
176 [01:12:30] *** Quits: debroooo (c50f34d9@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
177 [01:13:12] *** Joins: fraer (~chip@replaced-ip )
178 [01:14:25] *** Joins: xcin (~x@replaced-ip )
179 [01:15:05] *** Quits: afuentes (~kusanagi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
180 [01:16:43] *** Quits: user2468 (~user2468@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
181 [01:17:59] *** Quits: strass (~strass@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Bye Bye)
182 [01:18:24] *** Joins: Emmanuel_Chanel (~emmanuel@replaced-ip )
183 [01:18:37] *** Joins: LifeFrame (~smica83@replaced-ip )
184 [01:19:28] *** Joins: afuentes (~kusanagi@replaced-ip )
185 [01:19:47] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: jackNemrod)
186 [01:20:01] *** Joins: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
187 [01:21:19] *** Quits: jh001 (~user@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
188 [01:21:51] *** Quits: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
189 [01:23:01] <kabouter> a lot of updates in fresh debian 9.1 so it seems.
190 [01:23:08] *** Joins: strass (~strass@replaced-ip )
191 [01:23:46] *** Quits: SuperTramp83 (~SuperTram@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
192 [01:25:00] *** Quits: cadillac_ (~omab@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
193 [01:25:02] *** Joins: Altern8 (~carlos@replaced-ip )
194 [01:26:01] *** Quits: GDiaX (~gdiax@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
195 [01:26:23] *** Quits: kabouter (~kaboutur@replaced-ip ) (Quit: z)
196 [01:26:29] *** Joins: GDiaX (~gdiax@replaced-ip )
197 [01:26:35] *** Joins: BuDDy2001 (~budd@replaced-ip )
198 [01:27:03] *** Joins: pyface (~pyface@replaced-ip )
199 [01:27:07] *** Quits: k1ltzman (~k1ltzman@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
200 [01:27:37] *** Joins: cadillac_ (~omab@replaced-ip )
201 [01:28:08] *** Joins: spartacus_ (~spartacus@replaced-ip )
202 [01:28:31] *** spartacus_ is now known as Guest26163
203 [01:29:34] *** Joins: jh001 (~user@replaced-ip )
204 [01:31:26] *** Quits: kingsley (~kingsley@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
205 [01:32:46] *** Quits: Guest26163 (~spartacus@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
206 [01:33:18] *** Joins: kiltzman (~k1ltzman@replaced-ip )
207 [01:33:32] *** Quits: teroshan (~teroshan@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
208 [01:33:47] *** Joins: Graypup_ (Graypup@replaced-ip )
209 [01:34:14] *** Joins: spartacus__ (~spartacus@replaced-ip )
210 [01:34:25] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: jackNemrod)
211 [01:34:26] <Graypup_> how can I disable the (IMO insecure) behaviour of autostarting services with default configs upon installation. This is debian unstable with systemd, so the policy-rc.d trick doesn't work.
212 [01:34:44] <Graypup_> *?
213 [01:34:44] *** Joins: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
214 [01:34:54] *** spartacus__ is now known as Guest21656
215 [01:35:35] *** Quits: BuDDy2001 (~budd@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
216 [01:38:19] *** Quits: xet7 (~xet7@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
217 [01:40:08] *** Quits: knidos (~knidos@replaced-ip ) (Quit: knidos)
218 [01:40:17] *** Quits: Haudegen (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
219 [01:40:40] *** Joins: kingsley (~kingsley@replaced-ip )
220 [01:40:46] *** Quits: zoolook (~zoolook@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
221 [01:40:46] *** Quits: imtar (~imtar@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.9)
222 [01:40:56] *** Joins: imtar (~imtar@replaced-ip )
223 [01:42:49] *** Joins: sleepee (~sleepee@replaced-ip )
224 [01:43:10] *** Quits: prasket (~prasket@replaced-ip ) (Quit: exit)
225 [01:43:11] *** Quits: e64 (~e14@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
226 [01:43:22] *** Quits: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
227 [01:43:23] *** Joins: buffal0 (~buffal0@replaced-ip )
228 [01:43:46] *** Joins: e64 (~e14@replaced-ip )
229 [01:43:59] *** Quits: e64 (~e14@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
230 [01:44:28] *** Quits: buffffal00 (~buffal0@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
231 [01:44:33] *** Joins: e64 (~e14@replaced-ip )
232 [01:44:46] *** Quits: e64 (~e14@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
233 [01:44:55] <LtL> Graypup_: #systemctl disable service-name.service
234 [01:45:21] *** Joins: e64 (~e14@replaced-ip )
235 [01:45:34] *** Joins: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip )
236 [01:45:36] *** Quits: e64 (~e14@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
237 [01:46:16] *** Joins: e64 (~e14@replaced-ip )
238 [01:46:23] *** Quits: e64 (~e14@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
239 [01:46:26] <LtL> Graypup_: that wont stop it, but it won't start on boot, use stop to stop it
240 [01:46:56] *** Joins: e64 (~e14@replaced-ip )
241 [01:47:11] *** Quits: e64 (~e14@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
242 [01:47:13] *** Joins: j0blx0 (~j0blx0@replaced-ip )
243 [01:48:12] *** Joins: mukmuk (mukmuk@replaced-ip )
244 [01:48:48] *** Joins: diniwed (~gavron@replaced-ip )
245 [01:49:33] *** Quits: killian99 (~killian99@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Quitte)
246 [01:49:51] *** Joins: Bhootrk_ (~Bhootrk_@replaced-ip )
247 [01:50:18] *** Quits: Guest21656 (~spartacus@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
248 [01:51:37] *** Quits: HeOS (~heos@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
249 [01:53:20] *** Quits: wildlander (~wildlande@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Saliendo)
250 [01:53:53] *** Joins: fnstudio (~fabio@replaced-ip )
251 [01:54:38] *** Quits: fnstudio (~fabio@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
252 [01:54:43] *** Quits: Altern8 (~carlos@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
253 [01:55:16] *** Quits: OS-4444 (~OS-53@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
254 [01:55:35] *** Joins: ArchDuke (~ArchDuke@replaced-ip )
255 [01:55:56] *** Quits: libardi (~libardi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
256 [01:57:56] *** Joins: OS-31034 (~OS-31034@replaced-ip )
257 [01:58:20] <OS-31034> /msg NickServ REGISTER jasampro tarik@itfox.ba
258 [01:59:05] <OS-31034> /msg NickServ REGISTER <jasampro> <tarik@itfox.ba>
259 [02:00:02] *** Joins: fnstudio (~fabio@replaced-ip )
260 [02:00:29] <OS-31034> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <jasampro>
261 [02:01:31] *** Quits: buffal0 (~buffal0@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
262 [02:01:43] *** Joins: Ametrine (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
263 [02:02:07] *** Quits: de-facto (~de-facto@replaced-ip ) (Quit: See you around.)
264 [02:02:18] *** Joins: de-facto (~de-facto@replaced-ip )
265 [02:02:43] *** Quits: fnstudio (~fabio@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
266 [02:03:08] *** Quits: imtar (~imtar@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.9)
267 [02:03:14] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
268 [02:03:19] *** Quits: dave0x6d (uid190567@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
269 [02:03:41] *** Joins: fnstudio (~fabio@replaced-ip )
270 [02:03:46] *** Quits: OS-31034 (~OS-31034@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
271 [02:04:02] *** Joins: OS-31034 (~OS-31034@replaced-ip )
272 [02:04:40] *** Joins: pavlx2 (~pavlx@replaced-ip )
273 [02:04:43] *** Quits: Frikilinux (~Friki@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
274 [02:05:20] *** Joins: Frikilinux (~Friki@replaced-ip )
275 [02:05:37] *** Quits: namix (~namix@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
276 [02:05:44] *** Quits: pavlx (~pavlx@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
277 [02:05:46] *** pavlx2 is now known as pavlx
278 [02:06:13] *** Joins: juboxi (~juboxi@replaced-ip )
279 [02:07:33] *** Quits: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
280 [02:08:38] *** Quits: OS-31034 (~OS-31034@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
281 [02:09:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1687
282 [02:09:43] *** Quits: chip_ (~chip@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
283 [02:09:57] *** Ametrine is now known as Butt3rfly
284 [02:10:14] *** Joins: chip_ (~chip@replaced-ip )
285 [02:11:31] *** Joins: jtdowney (~jtdowney@replaced-ip )
286 [02:12:07] *** Joins: lethu_ (~lethu@replaced-ip )
287 [02:12:25] *** Quits: Nawab (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
288 [02:14:35] *** Quits: Bercik (~Yotsuba@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
289 [02:15:20] *** Joins: namix (~namix@replaced-ip )
290 [02:16:08] *** Quits: loader (~loader@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
291 [02:17:46] *** Quits: chip_ (~chip@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
292 [02:18:02] *** Quits: lethu_ (~lethu@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
293 [02:18:44] *** Joins: Bercik (~Yotsuba@replaced-ip )
294 [02:21:26] *** Quits: Frikilinux (~Friki@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
295 [02:21:51] *** Joins: Frikilinux (~Friki@replaced-ip )
296 [02:22:09] *** Quits: metax (~metax@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
297 [02:22:35] *** juboxi is now known as jubo2
298 [02:22:57] *** Quits: AimHere (~David@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
299 [02:23:07] *** Quits: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
300 [02:23:44] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: jackNemrod)
301 [02:23:59] *** Joins: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip )
302 [02:24:02] *** Joins: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
303 [02:25:21] *** Quits: Futha (~Futha@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
304 [02:27:05] *** Quits: krytarik (~krytarik@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
305 [02:27:26] *** Quits: guerby (~guerby@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
306 [02:29:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1681
307 [02:29:14] *** Joins: Vriaeros (~paranoiko@replaced-ip )
308 [02:30:14] <Vriaeros> I have installed debian and turned it to testing...I also installed selinux for extra security I am newbie in seinux and I have a question..what command must I give to selinux to allow to run my browser with their addons and function without affecting the rest of the system?
309 [02:30:22] *** Joins: guerby (~guerby@replaced-ip )
310 [02:30:28] *** Quits: oerheks (~oerheks@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
311 [02:30:43] *** Quits: guerby (~guerby@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
312 [02:31:11] *** Joins: guerby (~guerby@replaced-ip )
313 [02:31:59] *** Joins: phinxy (~tehhhd@replaced-ip )
314 [02:32:12] *** Quits: indistylo (~indistylo@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
315 [02:32:57] *** Joins: Evil_ (~Evil@replaced-ip )
316 [02:33:58] *** Quits: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
317 [02:34:27] *** Quits: guerby (~guerby@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
318 [02:34:52] *** Joins: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip )
319 [02:35:13] *** Quits: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
320 [02:35:22] *** Joins: chip_ (~chip@replaced-ip )
321 [02:35:49] *** Quits: l9root (~l9root@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
322 [02:35:50] *** Joins: guerby (~guerby@replaced-ip )
323 [02:35:50] *** Quits: guerby (~guerby@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
324 [02:35:50] *** Joins: guerby (~guerby@replaced-ip )
325 [02:36:36] <Vriaeros> Any help
326 [02:36:38] *** Joins: AimHere (~David@replaced-ip )
327 [02:36:41] <Vriaeros> ?
328 [02:37:07] *** Quits: burningspear (~burningsp@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
329 [02:37:33] *** Joins: burningspear (~burningsp@replaced-ip )
330 [02:37:48] *** Joins: digitalway (~digitalwa@replaced-ip )
331 [02:38:23] *** Joins: guerby_ (~guerby@replaced-ip )
332 [02:38:38] *** Quits: guerby (~guerby@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
333 [02:39:08] *** Quits: p_quarles (~pquarles@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
334 [02:39:26] *** Quits: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
335 [02:39:36] *** Joins: UnicornMAN (~UnicornMA@replaced-ip )
336 [02:39:46] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
337 [02:40:01] *** Joins: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
338 [02:41:30] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
339 [02:41:45] *** Joins: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
340 [02:42:10] *** Joins: p_quarles (~pquarles@replaced-ip )
341 [02:42:40] <Tom-_> i don't know at all, Vriaeros, maybe someone will in a few days. you can ask again every now and then.... like in a couple hours
342 [02:42:48] <Tom-_> your question seems pretty complicated, maybe a forum
343 [02:43:36] *** Joins: wujcin (~wujcin@replaced-ip )
344 [02:43:40] <Vriaeros> I also made the question to selinux channel but without reply
345 [02:45:00] *** Quits: guerby_ (~guerby@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
346 [02:45:10] <Tom-_> i haven't used selinux
347 [02:45:23] <Tom-_> if you don't know anything about it it's probably not easy to get going
348 [02:45:34] <Tom-_> not sure you're on the right track
349 [02:45:52] *** Quits: GDiaX (~gdiax@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
350 [02:46:01] *** Joins: guerby_ (~guerby@replaced-ip )
351 [02:46:20] *** Joins: GDiaX (~gdiax@replaced-ip )
352 [02:46:21] <Vriaeros> well I tried apparmor but the project is no longer maintained:/
353 [02:46:39] <Vriaeros> thanks for your help
354 [02:47:06] *** Joins: activisor (d0daee14@replaced-ip )
355 [02:47:32] *** Quits: guerby_ (~guerby@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
356 [02:47:41] *** Joins: guerby_ (~guerby@replaced-ip )
357 [02:47:47] *** Joins: l9root__ (~l9root@replaced-ip )
358 [02:47:53] <Tom-_> if you want increased security there's a debian hardening guide somewhere, or you can just look up a guide on securing linux somewhere
359 [02:48:14] *** Joins: HeOS (~heos@replaced-ip )
360 [02:49:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1688
361 [02:50:43] *** Quits: Vriaeros (~paranoiko@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
362 [02:56:21] *** Quits: UnicornMAN (~UnicornMA@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
363 [02:57:52] *** Quits: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
364 [02:57:59] *** Quits: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
365 [02:59:44] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: jackNemrod)
366 [02:59:59] <Evil_> hi ppl
367 [03:00:00] *** Joins: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
368 [03:00:33] <Evil_> please where i buy kali linux ?
369 [03:00:36] <Evil_> i wanna hack ppl
370 [03:00:43] *** Joins: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip )
371 [03:00:44] <Evil_> i want to hack my friends faceboo
372 [03:00:48] <Evil_> facebook*
373 [03:01:39] *** Joins: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip )
374 [03:02:28] *** Quits: zz_zz (~Treyvon@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Good Grief)
375 [03:03:09] <buu> zzzzzzzzz
376 [03:03:54] *** Quits: Evil_ (~Evil@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
377 [03:04:32] *** Quits: burningspear (~burningsp@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
378 [03:04:38] *** Quits: GDiaX (~gdiax@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
379 [03:05:20] *** Joins: GDiaX (~gdiax@replaced-ip )
380 [03:05:23] *** Quits: activisor (d0daee14@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ##replaced-url
381 [03:05:31] *** Quits: chip_ (~chip@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
382 [03:05:55] *** Quits: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
383 [03:07:19] *** Quits: eshlox (uid44222@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
384 [03:09:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1679
385 [03:09:12] *** Quits: ceramik (~ceramik@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
386 [03:09:18] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: jackNemrod)
387 [03:09:40] *** Joins: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
388 [03:10:15] *** Quits: x032cx (~lxuser@replaced-ip ) (Quit: "You picked the wrong kite to run away with!")
389 [03:10:34] *** Joins: chip_ (~chip@replaced-ip )
390 [03:10:35] *** Quits: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
391 [03:10:56] *** Quits: Nekojimi (~jimj316@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
392 [03:11:14] *** Quits: sobaken (~sobaken@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
393 [03:11:33] *** Joins: weems_ (~weems@replaced-ip )
394 [03:11:46] *** weems_ is now known as weems|laptop
395 [03:11:48] *** Joins: sobaken (~sobaken@replaced-ip )
396 [03:12:05] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
397 [03:14:01] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip )
398 [03:16:00] *** Joins: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip )
399 [03:16:27] *** Quits: Delta-One (~zero@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
400 [03:20:44] *** Joins: OS-30851 (~OS-30851@replaced-ip )
401 [03:22:06] *** Quits: HeOS (~heos@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
402 [03:22:45] *** Joins: patterson (~patterson@replaced-ip )
403 [03:23:15] *** Quits: m_ (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
404 [03:23:26] *** Quits: OS-30851 (~OS-30851@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
405 [03:24:08] *** Parts: buu (~buu@replaced-ip )
406 [03:26:28] *** Quits: monpocchi (~monpocchi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
407 [03:28:09] *** Quits: cruncher (~cruncher@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
408 [03:28:35] *** Joins: M4g1c5t0rM (~M4g1c5t0r@replaced-ip )
409 [03:29:22] *** Quits: chip_ (~chip@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
410 [03:29:40] *** Joins: chip_ (~chip@replaced-ip )
411 [03:30:12] *** Quits: fnstudio (~fabio@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
412 [03:30:37] *** Quits: segin (~AndChat26@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
413 [03:31:45] *** Joins: mvaenska1 (~mvaenskae@replaced-ip )
414 [03:31:49] *** Quits: mvaenskae (~mvaenskae@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
415 [03:34:17] *** Joins: libardi (~libardi@replaced-ip )
416 [03:35:35] *** Quits: orphean_ (~Orphean@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
417 [03:35:57] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: jackNemrod)
418 [03:35:58] *** Joins: colinjmatt (~colinjmat@replaced-ip )
419 [03:36:15] *** Joins: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
420 [03:38:46] *** Quits: Mahe (~mahe@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
421 [03:38:57] *** Joins: sidmo_ (~ilven@replaced-ip )
422 [03:39:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1673
423 [03:39:28] *** Joins: Mahe (~mahe@replaced-ip )
424 [03:40:41] *** Joins: th0r (~th0r@replaced-ip )
425 [03:40:42] *** Quits: colinjmatt (~colinjmat@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
426 [03:41:06] *** Joins: Lirion (~m00se@replaced-ip )
427 [03:41:14] *** Quits: LtL (~ltl@replaced-ip ) (Quit: LtL)
428 [03:42:16] *** Quits: sidmo (~ilven@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
429 [03:43:01] *** Quits: Tom01 (~tom@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
430 [03:44:46] *** Quits: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
431 [03:45:38] *** Joins: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip )
432 [03:51:32] *** Joins: Phah11 (~Phah1@replaced-ip )
433 [03:54:07] *** Quits: Phah13 (~Phah1@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
434 [03:56:33] *** Joins: uNmowed|2 (~Mayu@replaced-ip )
435 [03:56:59] *** Joins: Purec (~Purec@replaced-ip )
436 [03:57:16] *** Quits: mel00010 (~mel00010@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
437 [03:57:17] *** Quits: Purec (~Purec@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
438 [03:58:40] *** Joins: Purec (~Purec@replaced-ip )
439 [03:59:22] *** Joins: mel00010 (~mel00010@replaced-ip )
440 [03:59:24] *** Quits: Quatroking (~Quatrokin@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
441 [03:59:36] *** Quits: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
442 [03:59:50] *** Joins: prasket (~prasket@replaced-ip )
443 [04:00:02] *** Quits: banc (~master@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - ##replaced-url
444 [04:00:20] *** Quits: ryouma (~user@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
445 [04:00:32] *** Quits: uNmowed (~Mayu@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
446 [04:02:09] *** Joins: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip )
447 [04:02:09] *** Quits: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
448 [04:02:34] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
449 [04:02:41] *** Joins: jackNemrod_ (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
450 [04:03:16] *** Joins: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip )
451 [04:03:16] *** Quits: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
452 [04:04:22] *** Joins: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip )
453 [04:04:22] *** Quits: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
454 [04:05:01] *** jackNemrod_ is now known as jackNemrod
455 [04:05:07] *** Joins: kmh (~kmh@replaced-ip )
456 [04:05:30] *** Joins: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip )
457 [04:05:30] *** Quits: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
458 [04:06:26] *** Quits: digitalway (~digitalwa@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
459 [04:06:36] *** Joins: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip )
460 [04:06:36] *** Quits: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
461 [04:08:16] *** Joins: ValdirMarcos (~Valdir@replaced-ip )
462 [04:08:23] *** Quits: Schmetterwurm (~Schmetter@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
463 [04:08:50] *** Joins: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip )
464 [04:08:50] *** Quits: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
465 [04:09:39] *** Joins: buffal0 (~buffal0@replaced-ip )
466 [04:09:42] *** Quits: mark___ (~mark@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
467 [04:09:57] *** Joins: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip )
468 [04:09:57] *** Quits: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
469 [04:10:09] *** Joins: r0Oter (~r00ter@replaced-ip )
470 [04:10:13] *** Quits: r00ter (~r00ter@replaced-ip ) (Disconnected by services)
471 [04:11:55] *** Quits: ValdirBrazil (~Valdir@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
472 [04:12:26] *** Joins: bazhang (~bazhang@replaced-ip )
473 [04:15:05] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: jackNemrod)
474 [04:15:20] *** Joins: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
475 [04:18:52] *** Joins: ikus060 (~ikus060@replaced-ip )
476 [04:20:12] <ikus060> hello, I ve upgrade debian to strech. since my britness keyboard buttont is doing nothing
477 [04:20:37] <ikus060> I mean I see the GUI showing control change, but the britness does change
478 [04:21:05] *** Quits: mdorenka (~mdorenka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
479 [04:21:22] *** Joins: HeOS (~heos@replaced-ip )
480 [04:22:20] *** Joins: mdorenka (~mdorenka@replaced-ip )
481 [04:22:28] *** Quits: sondr3 (~sondr3@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
482 [04:22:33] *** Quits: ikus060 (~ikus060@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
483 [04:22:50] *** Joins: digitalway (~digitalwa@replaced-ip )
484 [04:24:16] *** Quits: tacegory (~tacegory@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
485 [04:25:39] *** Joins: ikus060 (~ikus060@replaced-ip )
486 [04:28:05] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
487 [04:28:57] *** Quits: ikus060 (~ikus060@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
488 [04:29:10] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip )
489 [04:29:37] *** Quits: CoderEurope (~TheHobbit@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
490 [04:31:04] *** Quits: Zvmdyv (nnn@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
491 [04:31:19] *** Joins: socomm (~socomm@replaced-ip )
492 [04:31:41] *** Parts: socomm (~socomm@replaced-ip )
493 [04:35:39] *** Joins: berkiyo (~berkiyo@replaced-ip )
494 [04:36:20] *** Quits: GenTooMan (~cyberman@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
495 [04:36:49] *** Quits: M4g1c5t0rM (~M4g1c5t0r@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
496 [04:36:51] *** Parts: berkiyo (~berkiyo@replaced-ip )
497 [04:39:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1666
498 [04:39:37] *** Quits: fraer (~chip@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
499 [04:40:26] *** Joins: dave0x6d (uid190567@replaced-ip )
500 [04:41:32] *** Quits: buffal0 (~buffal0@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
501 [04:42:16] *** Joins: DeadJew (~DeadJew@replaced-ip )
502 [04:43:47] *** Joins: Svetlana (~gry@replaced-ip )
503 [04:43:49] *** Joins: pruegeLknabe (~sherwood@replaced-ip )
504 [04:44:34] *** Quits: vvande (~vvande@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
505 [04:44:40] <Svetlana> is there a tool or a site where i can browse packages by tags ('user interface', 'graphical user interface', 'x window system' etc) as shown at replaced-url
506 [04:44:52] *** Joins: vvande (~vvande@replaced-ip )
507 [04:45:17] *** Quits: pLk (~sherwood@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
508 [04:45:26] *** Quits: Namidairo (~realname@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
509 [04:45:37] <DeadJew> I have a Windows tablet, it's a 32-bit x86-based tablet with a touch screen
510 [04:45:43] *** Joins: Namidairo (~realname@replaced-ip )
511 [04:45:53] <DeadJew> the physical buttons are Power, Volume Up, Volume Down
512 [04:46:37] <DeadJew> I can use USB OTG to boot from a USB device, and use a keyboard and mouse. I have an adapter that lets me power the device while doing this, so battery life for the install process is not an issue
513 [04:46:43] *** Quits: th0r (~th0r@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
514 [04:47:13] <DeadJew> my question is, will debian function in a usable manner with touch input only, plus Power/VolUp/VolDown keys only?
515 [04:47:47] <Svetlana> You'd need an on-screen keyboard. Why not.
516 [04:48:17] <DeadJew> Svetlana: does debian include an on-screen keyboard?
517 [04:49:03] *** Joins: buffal0 (~buffal0@replaced-ip )
518 [04:49:56] <Svetlana> Many. florence is one.
519 [04:51:10] <DeadJew> cool. has Debian ever been tried on a tablet before?
520 [04:51:35] *** Quits: HeOS (~heos@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
521 [04:51:52] *** Quits: Immanuel (~Manu@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
522 [04:51:55] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
523 [04:53:11] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip )
524 [04:53:40] <Svetlana> Yes, replaced-url
525 [04:53:56] *** Joins: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
526 [04:55:10] <DeadJew> cool
527 [04:58:13] *** Joins: Immanuel (~Manu@replaced-ip )
528 [04:58:22] *** Quits: alecov (~control@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
529 [04:59:01] *** Quits: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
530 [05:00:16] *** Quits: standerwick (~standerwi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
531 [05:00:45] *** Joins: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip )
532 [05:01:32] *** Quits: buffal0 (~buffal0@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
533 [05:03:43] *** Joins: CBF16888 (~CBF16888@replaced-ip )
534 [05:04:08] *** Quits: saptech (~saptech@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
535 [05:05:05] *** Quits: Wizek_ (~Wizek@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
536 [05:05:55] *** Joins: ktchk (~eddie6929@replaced-ip )
537 [05:11:27] *** Joins: ani00765 (~anon@replaced-ip )
538 [05:12:49] *** Quits: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
539 [05:13:15] *** Quits: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
540 [05:13:37] *** Quits: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
541 [05:13:44] *** Joins: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip )
542 [05:15:47] *** Quits: DeadJew (~DeadJew@replaced-ip ) (Quit: bye)
543 [05:17:07] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: jackNemrod)
544 [05:17:24] *** Joins: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
545 [05:17:25] *** Quits: amcorreia (~amcorreia@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
546 [05:19:06] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
547 [05:19:12] *** Joins: segin (~AndChat26@replaced-ip )
548 [05:19:39] *** Joins: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
549 [05:20:07] *** Joins: sondr3 (~sondr3@replaced-ip )
550 [05:20:56] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
551 [05:21:02] *** Quits: l9root__ (~l9root@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
552 [05:22:33] *** Joins: fstd_ (~fstd@replaced-ip )
553 [05:22:35] *** Quits: pyface (~pyface@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
554 [05:23:14] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip )
555 [05:23:28] *** Quits: electrostat (~dag@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
556 [05:23:29] *** Quits: jrmu (~jrmu@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
557 [05:24:15] *** Quits: scoobertron (~tom@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
558 [05:25:00] *** Quits: sondr3 (~sondr3@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
559 [05:26:25] *** Quits: fstd (~fstd@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
560 [05:26:26] *** fstd_ is now known as fstd
561 [05:26:29] *** Joins: jrmu (~jrmu@replaced-ip )
562 [05:26:45] *** Joins: TheCoffeMaker (~TheCoffeM@replaced-ip )
563 [05:27:05] *** Joins: pyface (~pyface@replaced-ip )
564 [05:27:16] *** Joins: scoobertron (~tom@replaced-ip )
565 [05:27:37] *** Joins: bit1 (~joseanton@replaced-ip )
566 [05:30:18] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: jackNemrod)
567 [05:30:18] *** Joins: QualityAddict (~QualityAd@replaced-ip )
568 [05:30:34] *** Joins: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
569 [05:30:52] *** Quits: kupi (uid212005@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
570 [05:31:51] *** Quits: haylon (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
571 [05:32:01] *** r0Oter is now known as r00ter
572 [05:37:35] *** Quits: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
573 [05:39:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1660
574 [05:39:33] *** Joins: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip )
575 [05:39:50] *** Joins: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip )
576 [05:40:51] *** Quits: Enissay (~Enissay@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
577 [05:42:14] *** Quits: sn0wmonster (~yeti@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
578 [05:42:57] *** Quits: pyface (~pyface@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
579 [05:45:14] *** Joins: LaunchDirector (~pi@replaced-ip )
580 [05:45:14] *** Joins: n3ss (~n3ss@replaced-ip )
581 [05:48:40] *** Joins: HeOS (~heos@replaced-ip )
582 [05:50:10] *** Quits: QualityAddict (~QualityAd@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
583 [05:53:25] *** Quits: HeOS (~heos@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
584 [05:53:40] *** Joins: pyface (~pyface@replaced-ip )
585 [05:53:46] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
586 [05:54:13] *** Quits: Renari (~Renari@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
587 [05:54:23] *** Quits: scoobertron (~tom@replaced-ip ) (Read error: No route to host)
588 [05:55:03] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip )
589 [05:55:30] <hanasaki> should dpkg-reconfigure exim4-conf ask for the smarthost server name when sent by smart host is selected?
590 [05:58:53] *** Quits: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
591 [05:59:00] *** Joins: scoobertron (~tom@replaced-ip )
592 [06:01:07] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: jackNemrod)
593 [06:01:23] *** Joins: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
594 [06:01:34] *** Joins: th0r (~th0r@replaced-ip )
595 [06:02:06] *** Quits: th0r (~th0r@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
596 [06:04:14] *** Joins: buffal0 (~buffal0@replaced-ip )
597 [06:05:25] *** Joins: sary (~uli63@replaced-ip )
598 [06:06:05] *** Joins: bsdnoob (~bsdnoob__@replaced-ip )
599 [06:06:14] <bsdnoob> hey what's the default mysql root password?
600 [06:06:26] <bsdnoob> I can't get in after the installation
601 [06:06:45] <jukka_palmu> on bsd?
602 [06:06:51] <bsdnoob> jukka_palmu, debian
603 [06:07:07] <bsdnoob> jukka_palmu, debian buster
604 [06:07:11] <jukka_palmu> assumingly it's root unless you set it
605 [06:07:26] <jukka_palmu> which it does ask you to set two passwords during installation
606 [06:07:28] *** Joins: saptech (~saptech@replaced-ip )
607 [06:07:41] <bsdnoob> jukka_palmu, it didn't in my case :-?
608 [06:07:59] *** Quits: valessio (uid150324@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
609 [06:08:32] <jukka_palmu> can you ssh in
610 [06:08:46] <bsdnoob> jukka_palmu, yeah it's my local machine
611 [06:09:13] <jukka_palmu> empty
612 [06:09:56] *** Joins: oerheks (~oerheks@replaced-ip )
613 [06:10:03] <jukka_palmu> try just hitting enter
614 [06:10:23] <bsdnoob> Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost'
615 [06:10:32] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: jackNemrod)
616 [06:10:46] *** Joins: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
617 [06:10:47] <jukka_palmu> see if you can ssh in as root
618 [06:10:56] <jukka_palmu> then "mysql -u root"
619 [06:11:14] <bsdnoob> whoops it works
620 [06:11:17] <jukka_palmu> ok
621 [06:11:18] <bsdnoob> why is that?
622 [06:11:21] <jukka_palmu> nvm
623 [06:11:26] <jukka_palmu> it was an empty string?
624 [06:11:31] <bsdnoob> yup
625 [06:11:33] *** Quits: Hex008 (~Hex008@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
626 [06:11:38] <jukka_palmu> nice :D
627 [06:11:52] *** Joins: mibo (~mibo@replaced-ip )
628 [06:11:57] <bsdnoob> why won't it allow other users to access it?
629 [06:12:39] *** Quits: BluesKaj (~Blues@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
630 [06:13:12] <jukka_palmu> because they are not privelaged. root is the admin account (so-to-speak)
631 [06:14:02] <jukka_palmu> that's safe. just make sure you have a root password set
632 [06:15:37] *** Quits: Velgor (~Velgor@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
633 [06:16:56] <jukka_palmu> bsdnoob: assuming you didn't read up: set a password with "passwd"
634 [06:17:25] <bsdnoob> jukka_palmu, I disabled root account, I just sudo in
635 [06:17:28] *** Quits: ChmEarl (~chmearl@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
636 [06:17:48] <jukka_palmu> ok. to each their own
637 [06:18:05] *** Quits: cyborg-one (~cyborg-on@replaced-ip ) (Quit: cyborg-one)
638 [06:20:30] *** Quits: hualet (~hualet@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
639 [06:23:46] *** Quits: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
640 [06:24:44] *** Joins: sIRC (~sIRC@replaced-ip )
641 [06:24:54] *** Joins: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip )
642 [06:24:55] *** Joins: don_stf (~don_stf@replaced-ip )
643 [06:27:18] *** Joins: Hyp3ri0n (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip )
644 [06:27:19] <hanasaki> where do you setup exim use tls and a specific port for smarthost?
645 [06:32:57] *** Quits: Phah11 (~Phah1@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
646 [06:35:09] *** Parts: Svetlana (~gry@replaced-ip )
647 [06:35:49] *** Quits: j0blx0 (~j0blx0@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
648 [06:37:16] *** Joins: ihatecsv (~ihatecsv@replaced-ip )
649 [06:37:35] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
650 [06:37:41] *** Quits: firef1y (~firef1y@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.7.1)
651 [06:37:52] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip )
652 [06:38:29] *** Quits: sary (~uli63@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Changing server)
653 [06:41:25] *** Quits: sleepee (~sleepee@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
654 [06:43:15] *** Joins: wadadli (~anu0@replaced-ip )
655 [06:47:06] *** Joins: walker (~walker@replaced-ip )
656 [06:47:30] *** Quits: walker (~walker@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
657 [06:48:23] *** Quits: buffal0 (~buffal0@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
658 [06:49:09] *** Quits: sIRC (~sIRC@replaced-ip ) (Quit: sIRC)
659 [06:49:49] *** Joins: HeOS (~heos@replaced-ip )
660 [06:49:51] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: jackNemrod)
661 [06:50:07] *** Joins: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
662 [06:54:57] *** Joins: sary (~uli63@replaced-ip )
663 [06:55:12] *** Joins: sn0wmonster (~yeti@replaced-ip )
664 [06:55:29] *** Quits: treaki_ (~treaki@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
665 [06:55:59] *** Quits: wadadli (~anu0@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Mutter: ##replaced-url
666 [06:56:17] *** Joins: treaki__ (~treaki@replaced-ip )
667 [06:57:52] *** Quits: GenteelBen (~GenteelBe@replaced-ip ) ()
668 [06:58:21] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: jackNemrod)
669 [06:58:37] *** Joins: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
670 [06:59:03] *** Joins: locrian9 (~mike@replaced-ip )
671 [06:59:09] <locrian9> I'm new to git. I currently am looking at two machines that have some '~/dotfiles/.irssi/config' files under a git repo called 'dotfiles' on github. On machine A the file is configured how I want it, and it's been pushed to the github repo 'dotfiles'. On machine B the same '~/dotfiles/.irssi/config' file exists, but there's lots of issues with it, and I'd like to go back, revert, or just have that file l
672 [06:59:15] <locrian9> ook exactly how my file on the github repo 'dotfiles/.irssi/config' is currenlty. I tried on machine B, while in the '~/dotfiles/.irssi/config' directory to issue 'git pull origin master'. It told me, "Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by merge: .irssi/config Please, commit your changes or stash them before you can merge." Is there another command that I'm looking for, or is
673 [06:59:21] <locrian9> there an option in 'git pull origin master' that I need to apply so I can pull in the good working file from my github?
674 [06:59:37] *** Quits: wafflejock (~wafflej0c@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
675 [07:00:14] *** Joins: troffasky (~r00t@replaced-ip )
676 [07:01:19] <zanshin> locrian9: Do a `git status` on machine B - it sounds like you have some in-flight changes that a `git pull` would over write
677 [07:02:39] <troffasky> has /var/cache/apt/archives been deprecated recently? even though i update weekly, newest file in there is from may 1st
678 [07:04:18] <zanshin> locrian9: You can do a `git checkout -b <branchname>` to move your machine B changes to a branch and commit them there, then checkout master and then do a `git pull`. Or you can Google how to do a `git stash` to isolate the changes.
679 [07:05:57] <zanshin> locrian9: replaced-url
680 [07:07:07] *** Joins: dayten (~gnoid@replaced-ip )
681 [07:07:15] <zanshin> locrian9: Or you can throw away the changes to a file with `git checkout -- <filename>`
682 [07:08:15] *** Joins: dreamon (~dreamon@replaced-ip )
683 [07:08:18] *** Quits: MrFixIt (~samurai@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
684 [07:09:34] *** Joins: Jantz (~IceChat9@replaced-ip )
685 [07:10:18] *** Joins: wadadli (~anu0@replaced-ip )
686 [07:13:29] *** Joins: Silvering (~textual@replaced-ip )
687 [07:13:36] *** Quits: Silvering (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
688 [07:14:19] <troffasky> whoops never mind - timestamps in /var/cache/apt/archives are the "real" timestamps, not when I downloaded them
689 [07:15:26] *** Quits: digitalway (~digitalwa@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
690 [07:19:31] *** Quits: Purec (~Purec@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
691 [07:20:02] *** Parts: Mitt (~Yondering@replaced-ip )
692 [07:20:28] *** Joins: Yondering (~Yondering@replaced-ip )
693 [07:20:57] *** Quits: Yondering (~Yondering@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
694 [07:21:02] *** Joins: zz_zz (~Treyvon@replaced-ip )
695 [07:21:13] *** Joins: hualet (~hualet@replaced-ip )
696 [07:21:15] *** Joins: Yondering (~Yondering@replaced-ip )
697 [07:21:23] *** Quits: zz_zz (~Treyvon@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
698 [07:21:30] *** Joins: zz_zz (~Treyvon@replaced-ip )
699 [07:21:47] *** Quits: DeaDSouL (~DeaDSouL@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
700 [07:21:59] *** Joins: sondr3 (~sondr3@replaced-ip )
701 [07:22:36] *** Quits: bit1 (~joseanton@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
702 [07:23:46] *** Quits: HeOS (~heos@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
703 [07:24:34] *** Quits: guerby_ (~guerby@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
704 [07:24:34] *** Joins: guerby_ (~guerby@replaced-ip )
705 [07:24:59] *** Quits: weems|laptop (~weems@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
706 [07:25:43] *** Joins: hvpc (~hvpc@replaced-ip )
707 [07:25:53] *** Quits: hualet (~hualet@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
708 [07:26:27] *** Quits: luckman212 (~luckman21@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
709 [07:26:31] *** Quits: sondr3 (~sondr3@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
710 [07:29:08] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: jackNemrod)
711 [07:29:23] *** Joins: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
712 [07:30:07] *** Joins: deego (~user@replaced-ip )
713 [07:30:57] *** Quits: ktchk (~eddie6929@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
714 [07:31:08] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
715 [07:31:23] *** Joins: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
716 [07:33:53] *** Joins: luckman212 (~luckman21@replaced-ip )
717 [07:34:55] *** Quits: ledeni (~ledeni@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
718 [07:35:41] *** Joins: sleepee (~sleepee@replaced-ip )
719 [07:35:49] *** Quits: hvpc (~hvpc@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
720 [07:39:35] *** Joins: electro33 (uid613@replaced-ip )
721 [07:39:51] <hanasaki> does smarthost use tls by default?
722 [07:39:57] <hanasaki> for exim
723 [07:41:16] *** Quits: diniwed (~gavron@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1)
724 [07:42:04] *** Joins: LucaTM (~LucaTM@replaced-ip )
725 [07:42:38] *** Quits: sorin-mihai (equinox@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Quit)
726 [07:42:47] *** Quits: pawalls (~pawalls@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
727 [07:43:28] *** Joins: pawalls (~pawalls@replaced-ip )
728 [07:44:15] *** Joins: sIRC (~sIRC@replaced-ip )
729 [07:44:29] *** Quits: Bhootrk_ (~Bhootrk_@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
730 [07:45:48] *** Joins: robotroll (~robotroll@replaced-ip )
731 [07:46:02] *** Quits: TheCoffeMaker (~TheCoffeM@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Saliendo)
732 [07:46:24] *** Joins: TheCoffeMaker (~TheCoffeM@replaced-ip )
733 [07:46:24] *** Quits: TheCoffeMaker (~TheCoffeM@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
734 [07:46:24] *** Joins: TheCoffeMaker (~TheCoffeM@replaced-ip )
735 [07:47:04] *** Joins: QualityAddict (~QualityAd@replaced-ip )
736 [07:47:42] *** Quits: AJ_Z0 (~AJ_Z0@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
737 [07:47:50] *** Joins: AJ_Z0 (~AJ_Z0@replaced-ip )
738 [07:47:50] *** Quits: AJ_Z0 (~AJ_Z0@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
739 [07:47:50] *** Joins: AJ_Z0 (~AJ_Z0@replaced-ip )
740 [07:48:33] *** Quits: clickjack (~clickjack@replaced-ip ) (Quit: clickjack)
741 [07:48:49] *** Quits: sIRC (~sIRC@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
742 [07:49:40] *** Joins: Purec (~Purec@replaced-ip )
743 [07:52:54] *** Joins: Peyam (~peyam@replaced-ip )
744 [07:52:56] <Peyam> hi
745 [07:53:09] <Peyam> I have chromium open and I already have 26% RAM usage
746 [07:53:40] <nkuttler> yes, and?
747 [07:53:49] <Peyam> 8GB RAM. debian stable. last release. With xubuntu I got 12%
748 [07:53:57] *** Quits: kculpis (~kculpic@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
749 [07:54:04] <Peyam> HAve I done something wrong?
750 [07:54:28] <Peyam> Now I have 25% RAM usag with youtube and hexchat
751 [07:55:04] <Introoter> how do you figure out thats 25%?
752 [07:55:14] <Introoter> (most of it can also be buffer/cache)
753 [07:55:22] *** Joins: BWMerlin (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
754 [07:56:07] <Peyam> replaced-url
755 [07:56:10] *** Quits: wadadli (~anu0@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Mutter: ##replaced-url
756 [07:56:46] <nkuttler> !free ram
757 [07:56:46] <dpkg> Unlike information, your computer's memory does *not* want to be free. Free RAM is wasted RAM! Linux tries to use free physical memory for caching files from disk which speeds up disk access considerably. Linux releases RAM from these caches if programs need it. If you want to know how much physical memory the free(1) tool says you have left for program use, it's 'free' + 'buffers' + 'cache'. Also ask me about <swapwake>.
758 [07:57:04] *** Quits: Hyp3ri0n (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
759 [07:57:10] <Introoter> because thats how Linux works?
760 [07:57:13] *** Joins: Cl0udN9ne (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip )
761 [07:57:48] *** Joins: xormor (~xormor@replaced-ip )
762 [07:57:54] *** Joins: clickjack (~clickjack@replaced-ip )
763 [07:58:19] <Peyam> clearly not all linux distros?
764 [07:59:00] <Introoter> no, that behaviour is the same for every distribution. it's the kernel that does it.
765 [07:59:00] *** Joins: steven_ (~steven@replaced-ip )
766 [07:59:05] *** Parts: steven_ (~steven@replaced-ip )
767 [07:59:14] *** Joins: lIt1 (~emcee@replaced-ip )
768 [07:59:42] <Peyam> I am explaining what I experince and you say that's how it works. What about if I have some simulation going on. The RAM would go over 100%
769 [07:59:49] <Peyam> and that's not right
770 [07:59:58] <xormor> what behavior?
771 [08:00:08] <Peyam> too much RAM usage
772 [08:00:55] *** Quits: Orbitrix (~Huevos@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
773 [08:01:04] <aaro> Peyam: xubuntu uses xfce, debian uses gnome by default which uses more resources than xfce, you casn install xfce on debian
774 [08:01:15] *** Joins: Orbitrix (~Huevos@replaced-ip )
775 [08:01:15] <Peyam> I do have xfce aaro
776 [08:02:03] *** Joins: Ericounet (~Eric@replaced-ip )
777 [08:02:20] <hanasaki> thoughts on debuging exim smarthost "Remote host closed connection in response to initial connection" the openssl client from console works fine
778 [08:02:22] <hanasaki> ??
779 [08:02:30] <Peyam> debian should be lighter. that's the reason I change in the first place.
780 [08:03:17] <xormor> $ free -m: total used free shared buff/cache available Mem: 3904 502 2609 7 792 3174 Swap: 4043 0 4043
781 [08:04:04] <Peyam> you have lot less RAM
782 [08:04:14] <Peyam> RAMusage*
783 [08:04:16] <xormor> my total RAM memory is 3904M, used is 502M and free is 2609M.
784 [08:04:25] <merimel> dpkg: it's just caching and have nothing to do with big chrome memory usage
785 [08:04:25] <dpkg> You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, merimel
786 [08:04:55] <Peyam> xormor, I have 2Gb used ram. and 1Gb cache
787 [08:04:57] *** Quits: _KaszpiR_ (quasselcor@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
788 [08:05:11] <xormor> Peyam, do you have Firefox open?
789 [08:05:18] <xormor> Peyam, perhaps YouTube?
790 [08:05:25] <xormor> Peyam, I will try opening those.
791 [08:05:37] <Peyam> xormor, no only chromium(youtube) and hexchat.
792 [08:05:56] *** Joins: _KaszpiR_ (quasselcor@replaced-ip )
793 [08:05:58] <xormor> Mem: 3904 645 2458
794 [08:06:12] <hanasaki> xormor: and Peyam / base server running nothing has 50M used
795 [08:07:02] <xormor> now Firefox, YouTube and HexChat are open: Mem: 3904 775 2313
796 [08:07:34] <Peyam> Mem: 7970 2172
797 [08:08:09] *** Quits: sary (~uli63@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
798 [08:09:25] <xormor> Peyam, Mem: total: 3904M used: 773M free: 2137M
799 [08:09:47] *** Joins: sIRC (~sIRC@replaced-ip )
800 [08:10:12] <Peyam> Mem: Total 7970 Used 2217 Free 5325
801 [08:10:12] <xormor> Peyam, now I have HexChat, Chromium and YouTube open.
802 [08:10:21] *** Joins: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip )
803 [08:10:21] *** Quits: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
804 [08:10:35] <Peyam> xormor, what do you mean? That I'm liying?
805 [08:10:45] *** Joins: hexjay (~hexjay@replaced-ip )
806 [08:11:27] *** Joins: notswengr (~textual@replaced-ip )
807 [08:11:28] *** Joins: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip )
808 [08:11:29] *** Quits: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
809 [08:12:46] <Peyam> xormor, replaced-url
810 [08:12:55] *** Quits: saptech (~saptech@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
811 [08:13:21] *** Joins: OS-4444 (~OS-53@replaced-ip )
812 [08:13:44] *** Joins: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip )
813 [08:13:44] *** Quits: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
814 [08:14:39] *** Quits: bsdnoob (~bsdnoob__@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
815 [08:14:51] *** Joins: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip )
816 [08:14:51] *** Quits: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
817 [08:15:20] <xormor> Peyam, are you on Ubuntu or Debian?
818 [08:15:28] <Peyam> debian xormor
819 [08:15:30] <xormor> Peyam, I use Debian stable stretch 9.1.
820 [08:15:33] <xormor> ok
821 [08:15:42] <Peyam> me too
822 [08:15:54] <xormor> it seems our computers are in a different state. perhaps different software running.
823 [08:16:02] *** Quits: prasket (~prasket@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
824 [08:16:04] <Peyam> yeah could be
825 [08:17:05] *** Joins: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip )
826 [08:17:05] *** Quits: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
827 [08:17:45] *** Joins: Walakea (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
828 [08:18:11] *** Joins: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip )
829 [08:18:11] *** Quits: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
830 [08:18:17] <Walakea> after i upgraded to Stretch and started using xfce, my computer seems to freeze once per few days
831 [08:19:08] *** Quits: dave0x6d (uid190567@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
832 [08:19:18] *** Joins: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip )
833 [08:19:18] *** Quits: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
834 [08:19:40] <xormor> Peyam, replaced-url
835 [08:20:01] *** Joins: ledeni (~ledeni@replaced-ip )
836 [08:20:10] <Peyam> gnome-shell
837 [08:20:16] <Peyam> hmm
838 [08:20:23] <xormor> Peyam, replaced-url
839 [08:20:29] <xormor> Peyam, yes
840 [08:20:39] *** Joins: eblip (~eblip@replaced-ip )
841 [08:20:56] *** Quits: Peyam (~peyam@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
842 [08:21:26] *** Joins: juboxi (~juboxi@replaced-ip )
843 [08:21:41] *** Joins: hualet (~hualet@replaced-ip )
844 [08:21:46] *** Quits: hualet (~hualet@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
845 [08:22:22] *** Joins: hualet (~hualet@replaced-ip )
846 [08:22:25] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
847 [08:22:57] *** Quits: eb0t (~eblip@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
848 [08:23:01] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip )
849 [08:23:07] *** Joins: HeOS (~heos@replaced-ip )
850 [08:24:26] *** Joins: mimmi (~mimmi@replaced-ip )
851 [08:25:02] *** Quits: troffasky (~r00t@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
852 [08:25:07] *** Quits: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
853 [08:25:22] *** Quits: mzf (~mzf@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
854 [08:25:41] *** Joins: Renari (~Renari@replaced-ip )
855 [08:25:41] *** Quits: michaelni (~michael@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
856 [08:25:58] *** Joins: mzf (~mzf@replaced-ip )
857 [08:26:17] *** Joins: bsdnoob (~bsdnoob__@replaced-ip )
858 [08:26:22] *** Quits: mimmi (~mimmi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
859 [08:26:25] *** Quits: hualet (~hualet@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
860 [08:26:46] *** Quits: _KaszpiR_ (quasselcor@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
861 [08:27:26] *** Joins: _KaszpiR_ (quasselcor@replaced-ip )
862 [08:28:46] *** Joins: Antares (~Antares@replaced-ip )
863 [08:30:03] *** Joins: wadadli (~anu0@replaced-ip )
864 [08:31:17] *** Quits: GhostInTheShell (~melkor@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Programmers don't die. They just GOSUB without RETURN.)
865 [08:33:15] *** Joins: HasanAtizaza (~hasan@replaced-ip )
866 [08:33:27] *** Quits: HasanAtizaz (~hasan@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
867 [08:36:12] *** Joins: scoobert1on (~tom@replaced-ip )
868 [08:36:47] *** Joins: rocksteady (~tyfoo@replaced-ip )
869 [08:37:03] *** Quits: wadadli (~anu0@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Mutter: ##replaced-url
870 [08:37:34] *** Joins: hele (~hele@replaced-ip )
871 [08:37:39] *** Quits: b (~glen@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
872 [08:40:01] *** Quits: scoobertron (~tom@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
873 [08:40:43] *** Quits: GDiaX (~gdiax@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
874 [08:40:56] *** Joins: GDiaX (~gdiax@replaced-ip )
875 [08:41:07] *** Quits: mar77i (~mar77i@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
876 [08:41:43] *** Joins: loader (~loader@replaced-ip )
877 [08:41:55] *** Quits: afuentes (~kusanagi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
878 [08:42:14] *** Joins: michaelni (~michael@replaced-ip )
879 [08:42:42] *** Joins: afuentes (~kusanagi@replaced-ip )
880 [08:42:54] *** Joins: wadadli (~anu0@replaced-ip )
881 [08:43:52] *** Quits: clickjack (~clickjack@replaced-ip ) (Quit: clickjack)
882 [08:44:15] *** Joins: mar77i (~mar77i@replaced-ip )
883 [08:44:49] *** Joins: Dirkson (~Dirkson@replaced-ip )
884 [08:45:11] <Dirkson> Hey all. Can someone point me to the current way to install flash for firefox? The wiki seems a year or so out of date.
885 [08:46:45] *** Quits: internat (~nf@replaced-ip ) ()
886 [08:47:06] <merimel> pepperflashplugin-nonfree, browser-plugin-freshplayer, browser-plugin-freshplayer
887 [08:47:30] <oerheks> nope, flash is dead, firefox prevents this as of version 53
888 [08:47:35] *** Quits: wadadli (~anu0@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
889 [08:47:45] <oerheks> look for firefox esr 52, that one will support flash
890 [08:47:51] *** Joins: wadadli (~anu0@replaced-ip )
891 [08:48:45] <Dirkson> Looks like my firefox is... 45 :D
892 [08:48:58] <Dirkson> merimel: I'll give those a go
893 [08:49:03] *** Quits: gr8ron (~tero@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
894 [08:49:42] <oerheks> replaced-url
895 [08:50:03] <oerheks> those flash plugins are not going to work, just saying..
896 [08:51:30] <Dirkson> merimel: I ended up grabbing "browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash", which works great. Sort of a mash of your suggestions, it looks like : )
897 [08:52:39] <oerheks> grinn, hard to believe you run firefox 45, and able to install that plugin without updating firefox ( and the rest)
898 [08:53:08] *** Quits: OS-4444 (~OS-53@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
899 [08:53:11] *** Joins: password2 (~password@replaced-ip )
900 [08:53:11] *** Quits: password2 (~password@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
901 [08:53:11] *** Joins: password2 (~password@replaced-ip )
902 [08:53:57] *** Quits: HeOS (~heos@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
903 [08:54:07] *** Joins: graytron (~tero@replaced-ip )
904 [08:54:33] <Dirkson> oerheks: You know, it IS fairly odd. I only installed this OS like 2 months ago.
905 [08:55:27] <oerheks> never full-upgraded?
906 [08:55:40] <Dirkson> Although the latest firefox provided seems to be 52 anyway, so it's a bit of a moot point.
907 [08:55:44] *** Quits: neurot (~neurot@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
908 [08:56:16] <Dirkson> Honestly, I rarely do that unless forced. Don't host any services off the box, and updates mean potential for downtime. There's a reason I'm running debian stable :D
909 [08:56:20] *** Quits: wadadli (~anu0@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Mutter: ##replaced-url
910 [08:56:45] *** Joins: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip )
911 [08:56:50] <oerheks> oke, sure you can have a reason, dev or something
912 [08:57:12] <Dirkson> Got it in one : )
913 [08:57:21] <shtrb> how do people here get the backlog each time (is there a bot for that or every person uses his own clients log) ?
914 [08:57:25] <merimel> >Beginning in Firefox version 52, support for NPAPI plugins in Firefox has ended, except for Adobe Flash.
915 [08:58:11] *** Joins: internat (~nf@replaced-ip )
916 [08:58:20] <Dirkson> shtrb: I think the usual IRC solution to that problem is "Just stay logged in all the time".
917 [08:58:29] <Dirkson> I don't know if this channel in particular has anything better.
918 [08:58:36] <shtrb> Dirkson , got it thanks
919 [08:59:55] *** Quits: krups (~krups@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
920 [08:59:57] <oerheks> not sure where the logs are no, this used to be the place > replaced-url
921 [09:01:01] <shtrb> I'm getting a 500 from there
922 [09:01:22] <merimel> browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash installs 13 version of plugin; though pepperflashplugin-nonfree downloads 26
923 [09:01:30] <codebam> how would I fix this replaced-url
924 [09:01:54] *** Joins: wadadli (~anu0@replaced-ip )
925 [09:01:54] *** Joins: krups (~krups@replaced-ip )
926 [09:01:57] <codebam> do I just have to wait?
927 [09:03:29] *** Quits: sIRC (~sIRC@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
928 [09:03:38] <Dirkson> merimel: Hunh. Couldn't get pepperflashplugin-nonfree to do anything on its own
929 [09:03:51] *** Joins: vvande_ (~vvande@replaced-ip )
930 [09:04:05] *** Quits: bsdnoob (~bsdnoob__@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
931 [09:05:01] <codebam> flash player sucks
932 [09:05:36] *** Quits: vvande (~vvande@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
933 [09:05:37] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
934 [09:06:00] *** Quits: wadadli (~anu0@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
935 [09:06:06] *** Quits: robotroll (~robotroll@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
936 [09:07:27] <merimel> i've checked now aaand
937 [09:07:37] <merimel> these packacge wont work
938 [09:07:46] <merimel> one is deleted from repo
939 [09:07:55] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
940 [09:08:06] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip )
941 [09:08:08] <merimel> my last 24 version of plugin wont update to 26
942 [09:08:29] *** Joins: DoctorDick (~Doc@replaced-ip )
943 [09:08:54] *** Joins: abhikpal (~abhikpal@replaced-ip )
944 [09:09:24] *** Joins: bsdnoob (~bsdnoob__@replaced-ip )
945 [09:09:30] <Dirkson> codebam: No argument here. And yet, content is still in flash format.
946 [09:09:36] <Dirkson> merimel: Interesting
947 [09:10:00] <codebam> does anyone have any idea how I'd fix my dependency issue?
948 [09:10:06] <shtrb> merimel , just an FYI pepper isn't always supported on VOD archives (they just ignore it if it doesn't identify as a known Adobe player version)
949 [09:10:09] <codebam> do I just wait for it to resolve itself?
950 [09:10:36] *** Quits: abhikpal (~abhikpal@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
951 [09:10:47] <shtrb> the answer I got from a VOD provider was "Just install Adobe flash to use our services"
952 [09:11:02] <codebam> wow
953 [09:11:33] <codebam> netflix and spotify stopped using flash, so I don't need it anymore
954 [09:11:43] <codebam> I used to keep chrome installed just to use spotify web
955 [09:12:14] <codebam> tbh spotify flash was a lot better than the shit they have now
956 [09:12:17] <shtrb> The only reason I needed flash was to access the EDU VOD service (recorded lectures)
957 [09:12:20] <codebam> you can't queue songs
958 [09:12:36] <codebam> ohh hmm
959 [09:12:39] <merimel> completelly reinstalled browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash and it working in debian firefox, but not in portable from mozilla
960 [09:12:48] <codebam> well google-chrome should have flash if you just need it for a single site
961 [09:12:58] <codebam> or...
962 [09:13:02] <codebam> did google remove flash
963 [09:13:04] <codebam> idk
964 [09:13:32] *** Quits: lIt1 (~emcee@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
965 [09:13:36] <merimel> oh, now plugin appeared everywhere
966 [09:13:40] <merimel> lol
967 [09:14:07] * merimel recomends browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
968 [09:14:21] *** Quits: patterson (~patterson@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
969 [09:14:22] <shtrb> :D
970 [09:14:33] <shtrb> flash should be banned on firewall level
971 [09:14:34] *** Joins: familiargalaxy (~ashok@replaced-ip )
972 [09:15:18] <codebam> ban drm plz
973 [09:15:20] *** Quits: rebrec (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
974 [09:15:27] *** Joins: rebrec (~quassel@replaced-ip )
975 [09:15:56] <codebam> well anyways, later
976 [09:16:49] <merimel> figured it out now, both pepperflashplugin-nonfree and browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash should be installed
977 [09:17:10] *** Quits: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
978 [09:18:24] *** Joins: estragon_ (~estragon@replaced-ip )
979 [09:18:24] *** Quits: estragon_ (~estragon@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
980 [09:19:26] <preview> does anyone have experience setting up an easy vpn arrangement between two computers on the same network?
981 [09:19:37] <preview> I tried uh vino, but it wouldn't load for me
982 [09:22:02] *** Joins: Freenoodle (~Bratwurst@replaced-ip )
983 [09:22:11] *** Joins: root-x (~root-x@replaced-ip )
984 [09:22:25] *** Quits: don_stf (~don_stf@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
985 [09:23:25] *** Quits: UUID02 (~UUID00@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
986 [09:23:34] *** Quits: segin (~AndChat26@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
987 [09:24:10] *** Quits: krups (~krups@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
988 [09:24:11] *** Joins: krups (~krups@replaced-ip )
989 [09:25:34] *** Quits: twentyfour (~twentyfou@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
990 [09:25:52] *** Joins: twentyfour (~twentyfou@replaced-ip )
991 [09:26:05] *** Quits: twentyfour (~twentyfou@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
992 [09:26:49] *** vvande_ is now known as vvande
993 [09:27:22] *** Joins: notebox (~textual@replaced-ip )
994 [09:27:32] *** Joins: twentyfour (~twentyfou@replaced-ip )
995 [09:28:12] *** Quits: notebox (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
996 [09:28:27] *** Joins: banc (~master@replaced-ip )
997 [09:28:52] *** Joins: nocaberi (~bocaneri@replaced-ip )
998 [09:29:26] *** Quits: wujcin (~wujcin@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
999 [09:29:33] *** Joins: user2468 (~user2468@replaced-ip )
1000 [09:30:13] *** Quits: Bock (~bocaneri@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1001 [09:30:14] *** Joins: wujcin (~wujcin@replaced-ip )
1002 [09:30:43] *** nocaberi is now known as Bock
1003 [09:31:22] *** Quits: bsdnoob (~bsdnoob__@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1004 [09:32:21] *** Quits: Freenoodle (~Bratwurst@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1005 [09:32:38] *** Joins: k000_ (~k000@replaced-ip )
1006 [09:33:02] *** Quits: k000 (~k000@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1007 [09:33:17] *** Joins: robotroll (~robotroll@replaced-ip )
1008 [09:37:06] *** Joins: burningspear (~burningsp@replaced-ip )
1009 [09:37:13] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1010 [09:37:52] *** Quits: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1011 [09:38:09] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip )
1012 [09:39:11] *** Quits: oojacoboo (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
1013 [09:39:35] *** Joins: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip )
1014 [09:42:05] *** Joins: saptech (~saptech@replaced-ip )
1015 [09:43:06] *** Joins: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1016 [09:43:57] *** Joins: vkolchev (~vadimkolc@replaced-ip )
1017 [09:44:03] *** Joins: raynold (uid201163@replaced-ip )
1018 [09:44:28] *** Joins: discovered (~discovere@replaced-ip )
1019 [09:44:54] *** Joins: l3archos (~Icedove@replaced-ip )
1020 [09:45:38] *** Quits: l3archos (~Icedove@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1021 [09:46:58] *** Joins: hualet (~hualet@replaced-ip )
1022 [09:48:25] *** Joins: BenNZ (~Ben__@replaced-ip )
1023 [09:49:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1666
1024 [09:49:01] *** Joins: rjak (~rjak@replaced-ip )
1025 [09:49:29] <rjak> replaced-url
1026 [09:49:39] <rjak> Someone needs to fix this shit yesterday.
1027 [09:51:07] *** Joins: HeOS (~heos@replaced-ip )
1028 [09:51:36] *** Quits: user2468 (~user2468@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1029 [09:51:43] *** Joins: secmeant (holz@replaced-ip )
1030 [09:51:51] *** Joins: mar77i_ (~mar77i@replaced-ip )
1031 [09:51:51] *** Joins: notebox (~textual@replaced-ip )
1032 [09:52:07] *** Joins: user2468 (~user2468@replaced-ip )
1033 [09:53:16] *** Quits: notebox (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1034 [09:53:36] *** Joins: hagridaaron (~hagridaar@replaced-ip )
1035 [09:53:57] <vkolchev> how to move gnome 3 panel to bottom? can it be done in gconf somehow?
1036 [09:54:04] *** Quits: mar77i (~mar77i@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1037 [09:55:07] <merimel> you need to find extension for that task
1038 [09:55:16] *** Joins: ________ (uid108572@replaced-ip )
1039 [09:55:28] <BenNZ> vkolchev: replaced-url
1040 [09:55:43] <vkolchev> merimel, BenNZ thx, will look into it
1041 [09:56:03] <BenNZ> oh sorry might be different for gnome 3 , not sure why i thought cinnamon , but i would have thought it would be similiar
1042 [09:56:15] <vkolchev> BenNZ, wel, it won't help)
1043 [09:56:37] <vkolchev> BenNZ, not so simple with Gnome 3, although Cinnamon is based on it
1044 [09:56:44] <afidegnum> in fail2ban, what's the difference between RETURN and DROP ?
1045 [09:56:52] *** Joins: replaced-url
1046 [09:56:58] <BenNZ> its probably different depending on what version of gnome 3 your using
1047 [09:57:05] <merimel> in debian ypu can install number of different extensions and mimic ubuntu unity look
1048 [09:57:26] *** Quits: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1049 [09:57:38] *** Joins: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip )
1050 [09:57:51] <vkolchev> merimel, well, I don't need it look like Ubuntu)) Just want the top bar to be in bottom. Used to do this all the time with Xfce and got used to it somehow
1051 [09:58:14] *** Quits: rkta (~kt@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
1052 [09:58:18] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: jackNemrod)
1053 [09:58:20] <BenNZ> merimel: you could install the yunit packages
1054 [09:58:25] *** Joins: YesButProbablyNo (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1055 [09:58:26] *** Parts: rjak (~rjak@replaced-ip )
1056 [09:58:28] *** Joins: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1057 [09:58:36] <merimel> top bar probably can't be moved to the bottom in gnome shell
1058 [09:58:50] <BenNZ> vkolchev: xfce allows you to configure the desktop , gnome is the way you want it already ......
1059 [09:59:14] <vkolchev> merimel, sad, but okay, will learn to live with it)
1060 [09:59:28] *** Joins: theparadoxer02 (2f1f03f7@replaced-ip )
1061 [09:59:41] <vkolchev> BenNZ, well, even don't know how to comment. even mustdie has chance to move panel))
1062 [09:59:55] <BenNZ> vkolchev: just remember with gnome , you have to have it they way the gnome devs want it , otherwise your wrong and shouldnt be using linux
1063 [09:59:58] <merimel> gnome depending on extensions model — if you want particular functionalty emplement it yourself
1064 [10:00:06] *** Joins: altin (~altin@replaced-ip )
1065 [10:00:06] *** Quits: altin (~altin@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1066 [10:00:06] *** Joins: altin (~altin@replaced-ip )
1067 [10:00:19] <theparadoxer02> my battery is getting drained vary fast after i installed ubuntu 16.06. How do i trace the battery consumption ?
1068 [10:00:53] *** Joins: netzfisch (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1069 [10:00:59] <Walakea> theparadoxer02do you have two GPUs?
1070 [10:01:18] <BenNZ> theparadoxer02: this is debian , not ubuntu ....
1071 [10:01:57] *** Quits: n3ss (~n3ss@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1072 [10:02:36] *** Joins: OERIAS (~OERIAS@replaced-ip )
1073 [10:03:55] *** Joins: antgel (~topdog@replaced-ip )
1074 [10:03:59] *** Quits: hagridaaron (~hagridaar@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
1075 [10:06:46] *** Quits: Sleepy63 (~Sleepy63@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ##replaced-url
1076 [10:07:36] *** Joins: czesmir (~stefan@replaced-ip )
1077 [10:07:41] *** Joins: Pjusur (~Pjusur@replaced-ip )
1078 [10:07:41] *** Quits: LifeFrame (~smica83@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Bye)
1079 [10:08:20] *** Joins: rkta (~kt@replaced-ip )
1080 [10:08:39] *** Joins: maxime_ (~maxime@replaced-ip )
1081 [10:08:40] *** Quits: saptech (~saptech@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1082 [10:09:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1675
1083 [10:09:59] <theparadoxer02> Walakea: i don't know how do i know if i have two !
1084 [10:10:09] *** Joins: sorin-mihai (equinox@replaced-ip )
1085 [10:11:35] *** Quits: jandrusk (~jra@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1086 [10:11:56] *** Joins: will_ (~birdbolt@replaced-ip )
1087 [10:13:07] *** Joins: Aussie_matt (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1088 [10:13:30] <Walakea> theparadoxer02: what laptop do you have?
1089 [10:14:13] <jmcnaught> theparadoxer02: please ask in #ubuntu, this channel is only for #debian
1090 [10:15:02] *** Quits: will__ (~birdbolt@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1091 [10:15:29] *** Quits: netzfisch (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: netzfisch)
1092 [10:16:05] *** Joins: rovonovo_zoro (uid229900@replaced-ip )
1093 [10:16:21] <theparadoxer02> Walakea: i have lenvo thinkpad T420s
1094 [10:17:20] *** Joins: Zvmdyv (nnn@replaced-ip )
1095 [10:17:41] *** Joins: m8 (~m8@replaced-ip )
1096 [10:18:24] <Walakea> theparadoxer02: it has intel + nvidia GPU; for me (on Debian) it helped when i installed bbswitch package, it automatically disabled nvidia GPU
1097 [10:18:24] *** Joins: will__ (~birdbolt@replaced-ip )
1098 [10:18:34] *** Joins: pingfloyd (~pingfloyd@replaced-ip )
1099 [10:19:05] *** Joins: well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip )
1100 [10:19:20] <Walakea> theparadoxer02: you can also try searching the interwebs about "powertop"
1101 [10:19:49] *** Quits: cef (~cef@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Zoom!)
1102 [10:20:41] *** Joins: Nekojimi (~jimj316@replaced-ip )
1103 [10:20:49] *** Joins: Wolfie (~Wolfie@replaced-ip )
1104 [10:20:59] *** Joins: cef (~cef@replaced-ip )
1105 [10:21:25] *** Quits: will_ (~birdbolt@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1106 [10:21:57] <merimel> and search for file indexing happening in your DE
1107 [10:22:03] <merimel> like baloo in kde
1108 [10:22:10] <theparadoxer02> Walakea: what actually mean interwebs ?
1109 [10:22:16] *** Quits: martastain (~martastai@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1110 [10:22:21] <merimel> just internet
1111 [10:22:28] <bazhang> theparadoxer02, internet
1112 [10:22:29] *** Quits: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1113 [10:22:45] <bazhang> theparadoxer02, what version of debian is that
1114 [10:23:11] <Wolfie> hello, I'm attempting a live update from jessie to stretch via apt
1115 [10:23:47] *** Joins: Virgo_ (~Virgo@replaced-ip )
1116 [10:23:47] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1117 [10:23:47] *** Quits: HeOS (~heos@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1118 [10:23:56] <Walakea> Wolfie: i successfully did it with no problems
1119 [10:24:06] <Wolfie> and I was wondering what version of (g)libc6 is compiled without support below 3.2 kernels
1120 [10:24:25] <Wolfie> i noticed in the change log for glibc (2.21-4)
1121 [10:24:39] *** Joins: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip )
1122 [10:24:43] <Wolfie> * debian/sysdeps/amd64.mk, debian/sysdeps/i386.mk: downgrade the minimal
1123 [10:24:44] <Wolfie> Linux kernel version to 2.6.32 to support RHEL6 kernels.
1124 [10:24:44] <Wolfie> * debhelper.in/libc.preinst: add a note explainling that pre-3.2 kernel
1125 [10:24:44] <Wolfie> are not officially supported.
1126 [10:25:55] *** Joins: jandrusk (~jra@replaced-ip )
1127 [10:25:57] *** Quits: Bsadowski1 (~Brian_S@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1128 [10:26:08] <theparadoxer02> bazhang: 16.04.2 LTS (Xenial Xerus)"
1129 [10:26:24] <bazhang> theparadoxer02, thats ubuntu
1130 [10:26:52] <Wolfie> I'm a bit confused... does that mean that they dropped support for it via the version configure flag when it was compiled or did they just decide not to make it a priority to make work
1131 [10:27:19] <Virgo_> good morning
1132 [10:27:25] <theparadoxer02> bazhang: ubuntu is based on debian ?
1133 [10:27:46] <bazhang> theparadoxer02, ubuntu is not supported in this channel
1134 [10:27:50] <Wolfie> it is but its very different
1135 [10:27:58] <theparadoxer02> bazhang: okay
1136 [10:28:11] <bazhang> #ubuntu theparadoxer02
1137 [10:28:13] <Wolfie> oops
1138 [10:28:21] <Wolfie> i pasted :/
1139 [10:28:40] *** Joins: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip )
1140 [10:29:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1681
1141 [10:29:17] <Virgo_> thats a hard line on logic not to support ubuntu
1142 [10:29:29] *** Joins: bsdnoob (~bsdnoob__@replaced-ip )
1143 [10:29:46] <Virgo_> debian is half dead anyway
1144 [10:29:55] *** Quits: preview (~preview@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1145 [10:30:10] *** Quits: twentyfour (~twentyfou@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1146 [10:30:24] *** Joins: Bsadowski1 (~Brian_S@replaced-ip )
1147 [10:30:57] *** Joins: strk (~strk@replaced-ip )
1148 [10:31:09] <Wolfie> intresting...
1149 [10:31:12] <strk> what do you recommend to convert an audio cd to a set of ogg or mp3 files ?
1150 [10:31:30] <strk> dir2ogg lacks an output-directory switch, making it impractical to use
1151 [10:31:48] <Wolfie> learn something new everyday the glibc team dropped support for the kernel back in December 2015
1152 [10:32:20] *** Quits: theparadoxer02 (2f1f03f7@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1153 [10:32:42] *** Joins: familiar1alaxy (~ashok@replaced-ip )
1154 [10:32:44] *** Joins: twentyfour (~twentyfou@replaced-ip )
1155 [10:33:00] *** Quits: familiar1alaxy (~ashok@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1156 [10:33:12] *** Parts: strk (~strk@replaced-ip )
1157 [10:33:34] *** Quits: BenNZ (~Ben__@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1158 [10:33:35] *** Joins: OS-30658 (~OS-30658@replaced-ip )
1159 [10:33:41] *** Joins: tikun (~David@replaced-ip )
1160 [10:33:43] *** Quits: OS-30658 (~OS-30658@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1161 [10:33:49] *** Quits: bsdnoob (~bsdnoob__@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1162 [10:34:08] *** Joins: sumyunseal (~sumyunsea@replaced-ip )
1163 [10:34:17] <Virgo_> considering that debian is more in line with perl scripting, does that have anything to do with the perl room being called salt? That reminds me of a national security state movie.
1164 [10:35:03] *** Joins: familiar1alaxy (~ashok@replaced-ip )
1165 [10:35:03] *** Joins: xaa (~xaa@replaced-ip )
1166 [10:35:33] <Virgo_> its clever.
1167 [10:36:25] *** Quits: peterandre (peterandre@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1168 [10:36:33] <jrmu> does debian use perl extensively?
1169 [10:37:05] *** Quits: will__ (~birdbolt@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1170 [10:37:12] *** Quits: sikun (~David@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1171 [10:37:44] *** Joins: imtar (~imtar@replaced-ip )
1172 [10:37:46] <Virgo_> most perl programmers seem to prefer perl
1173 [10:38:12] *** Joins: Delta-One (~zero@replaced-ip )
1174 [10:39:07] *** Joins: will_ (~birdbolt@replaced-ip )
1175 [10:40:37] <jrmu> yes, I agree that perl programmers like perl, but are the debian programmers perl programmers? :)
1176 [10:41:05] <Virgo_> Sounds like a trick question :)
1177 [10:41:20] <Virgo_> of course they do... and the egg came first. \
1178 [10:41:47] <Wolfie> i love the whole chicken before the egg debate with compliation
1179 [10:42:20] * Virgo_ chuckles
1180 [10:42:20] <Wolfie> libc6 depends on libgcc1 which depends on libc6
1181 [10:42:38] <Wolfie> which of course keeps looping
1182 [10:42:40] <jrmu> what tools in debian are written in perl?
1183 [10:42:55] <Wolfie> try uninstalling perl and see????
1184 [10:43:01] <Wolfie> would that work?
1185 [10:43:02] <pingfloyd> Wolfie: what's the debate?
1186 [10:43:13] * Wolfie shrugs
1187 [10:43:13] *** Quits: RTFM[away] (~RTFMaway]@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1188 [10:43:17] <Virgo_> its more about the terminal lux I believe.
1189 [10:43:21] *** Joins: BenNZ (~Ben__@replaced-ip )
1190 [10:43:28] <pingfloyd> with the toolchain itself there is a chicken and egg situation
1191 [10:43:38] <pingfloyd> so in the early stages you have to bootstrap
1192 [10:43:40] *** Joins: Rembo (Rembo@replaced-ip )
1193 [10:43:43] <Rembo> hello everyone, one of my raid hard drive got bad sectors, how do i clone the entire disk to another new disk?
1194 [10:43:47] *** Joins: peterandre (peterandre@replaced-ip )
1195 [10:43:57] <Wolfie> are you using linux?
1196 [10:44:19] <pingfloyd> Wolfie: you asking me?
1197 [10:44:23] <Rembo> Wolfie, yes, i'm using using linux
1198 [10:44:24] <Wolfie> and what version of raid Rembo
1199 [10:44:29] <pingfloyd> oh
1200 [10:44:45] <Rembo> Wolfie, it's software raid
1201 [10:44:50] <Wolfie> raid0 raid1 raid10 raidx
1202 [10:45:00] <pingfloyd> how come you can't just swap the bad drive?
1203 [10:45:04] <Rembo> Wolfie, it's a raid10
1204 [10:45:06] <pingfloyd> isn't that the whole point?
1205 [10:45:19] <Virgo_> ^
1206 [10:45:26] *** Quits: CBF16888 (~CBF16888@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1207 [10:45:27] <Wolfie> with 10 you should just be able to take the bad drive out and replace it and rebuild the raid
1208 [10:45:29] <Virgo_> yea its one of 10 copies
1209 [10:45:32] <pingfloyd> with raid you should be able to swap drives and it should rebuild the array
1210 [10:45:40] <Wolfie> raid 0 you hooped though
1211 [10:45:51] <Wolfie> iirc 0 is just spanning
1212 [10:45:56] <Wolfie> no mirroring or parity
1213 [10:46:20] <Rembo> Wolfie, i need to clone the entire drive to another, sector by sector
1214 [10:46:21] *** Quits: nymony (~nymony@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1215 [10:46:28] *** Joins: CBF16888 (~CBF16888@replaced-ip )
1216 [10:46:32] <Rembo> Wolfie, how can i do this using dd?
1217 [10:46:50] <pingfloyd> Rembo: why do you need to do that?
1218 [10:46:53] <Wolfie> raid should do that by it self
1219 [10:46:54] <pingfloyd> why at the block level?
1220 [10:47:01] *** Joins: nymony (~nymony@replaced-ip )
1221 [10:47:09] <Wolfie> since its sw it might need a nudge with a command what to do
1222 [10:47:19] <Wolfie> least its not fakeraid
1223 [10:47:38] <Wolfie> what utility did u use to set up the raid in the first place?
1224 [10:47:45] <pingfloyd> those are configuration details that he should know
1225 [10:48:04] <pingfloyd> some systems, you just simply swap the drives online and get on with life
1226 [10:48:20] *** Joins: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip )
1227 [10:48:27] <Wolfie> depends on the setup pingfloyd
1228 [10:48:33] *** Quits: Lowl3v3l (~lowl3v3l@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1229 [10:48:38] <pingfloyd> maybe all else you should do is check up on the rebuild result later
1230 [10:48:47] <pingfloyd> Wolfie: exactly
1231 [10:48:52] *** Joins: Sleepy63 (~Sleepy63@replaced-ip )
1232 [10:48:58] <pingfloyd> Wolfie: that depends on the hardware and software involved
1233 [10:49:12] <Wolfie> there be many software raid's
1234 [10:49:18] <Wolfie> and there be many hw raids
1235 [10:49:25] *** Quits: pitelpan (~panagioti@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1236 [10:49:26] <Wolfie> and many "fake"raids
1237 [10:49:29] <pingfloyd> many different bells and whistles
1238 [10:49:33] *** Quits: czesmir (~stefan@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
1239 [10:50:03] <Wolfie> with software raid it should be decently easy
1240 [10:50:19] <pingfloyd> especially when you start talking about different raid controllers.
1241 [10:50:28] <Wolfie> hw raid its a bit fickle depending wether you had to replace the raid controller which is not the case
1242 [10:50:50] *** Joins: Elirips (~Elirips@replaced-ip )
1243 [10:50:51] <Wolfie> with fake raid.....
1244 [10:50:52] <pingfloyd> I wouldn't bother with hw unless it's more like enterprise
1245 [10:51:05] <pingfloyd> they can also foot the bill
1246 [10:51:53] <pingfloyd> one big plus to using sw is how open it is. Doesn't have to go to the same controller.
1247 [10:51:55] *** Quits: phix (~threat@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1248 [10:51:55] *** Joins: czesmir (~stefan@replaced-ip )
1249 [10:52:01] <Wolfie> Rembo, if it is indeed raid 10 regardless the data should be intact depending on whether the system was able to detect the bad drive
1250 [10:52:33] <pingfloyd> pretty much everything in enterprise is handled like a racket
1251 [10:52:38] <Wolfie> and stop using it for reads as to prevent contamination
1252 [10:52:42] *** Quits: altin (~altin@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1253 [10:53:35] <Virgo_> pingfloyd... thats clever
1254 [10:53:40] *** Joins: shinnok (~shinnok@replaced-ip )
1255 [10:53:43] *** Joins: Futha (~Futha@replaced-ip )
1256 [10:53:55] *** Joins: phix (~threat@replaced-ip )
1257 [10:53:56] *** Quits: lankanmon (~LKNnet@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1258 [10:54:22] *** Quits: mavhq (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1259 [10:54:43] *** Joins: legend (~killbill@replaced-ip )
1260 [10:54:52] <Wolfie> hmmm
1261 [10:55:30] <Wolfie> wouldn't the bootloader need support for sw raid to boot grub or equivilant
1262 [10:55:31] *** Joins: mavhq (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1263 [10:55:33] <pingfloyd> Virgo_: what is?
1264 [10:55:35] *** Joins: pitelpan (~panagioti@replaced-ip )
1265 [10:55:35] *** Quits: pitelpan (~panagioti@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1266 [10:55:36] *** Joins: pitelpan (~panagioti@replaced-ip )
1267 [10:55:49] <Virgo_> your name silly
1268 [10:55:56] <pingfloyd> Virgo_: oh, thanks
1269 [10:56:03] <Virgo_> =D
1270 [10:56:25] <Wolfie> never really though about it
1271 [10:56:41] <pingfloyd> Wolfie: I think the requirement is for the necessary modules to be included in the initramfs or compiled directly into the kernel
1272 [10:57:04] <Wolfie> pingfloyd, yeah
1273 [10:57:09] *** Joins: nibble_zero (~chatzilla@replaced-ip )
1274 [10:57:17] <Wolfie> but it still would need to know where to look for the initramfs
1275 [10:57:21] *** Joins: id4rk (~id4rk@replaced-ip )
1276 [10:57:26] <Wolfie> in a raid 10 its a mirrored span
1277 [10:57:29] <Wolfie> 4 drives
1278 [10:57:57] *** Quits: Rembo (Rembo@replaced-ip ) ()
1279 [10:58:27] *** Quits: shinnok (~shinnok@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1280 [10:58:30] <Wolfie> lol
1281 [10:58:57] *** Quits: phix (~threat@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1282 [10:59:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1687
1283 [10:59:01] <Wolfie> i hope he doesn't try using device level stuff
1284 [10:59:27] *** Quits: legend (~killbill@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1285 [10:59:32] <Wolfie> at least not while live
1286 [10:59:35] *** Quits: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1287 [11:00:27] *** Quits: rkta (~kt@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1288 [11:00:40] *** Quits: root-x (~root-x@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1289 [11:00:47] <Wolfie> even while not live...
1290 [11:01:12] *** Joins: phix (~threat@replaced-ip )
1291 [11:01:24] <shtrb> Should I open a bug against Firefox-ESR if I get the next message ("Reserved SBR extensions is not implemented. Update your FFmpeg version to the newest one from Git. If the problem still occurs, it means that your file has a feature which has not been implemented.") ?
1292 [11:02:07] *** Joins: root-x (~root-x@replaced-ip )
1293 [11:02:15] <pingfloyd> Wolfie: here's the 411 on that replaced-url
1294 [11:02:16] <Wolfie> the raid stores identifiers on the disk... copying the disc to another and booting it could lead to some uglyness as it sees 2 identical raid drives
1295 [11:02:56] <pingfloyd> long story short, it's dependant on a few things
1296 [11:03:17] *** Joins: newbie17 (~kvirc@replaced-ip )
1297 [11:03:18] <newbie17> hi
1298 [11:03:23] *** Joins: j08nY (~j08nY@replaced-ip )
1299 [11:03:31] <secmeant> Im getting wpa_supplicant deamon failed to start on ifup wlan0, can missing driver cause this ?
1300 [11:03:53] *** newbie17 is now known as Tapioco
1301 [11:03:54] *** Quits: vkolchev (~vadimkolc@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1302 [11:03:55] <Tapioco> hi
1303 [11:04:05] <Tapioco> please how can I block an ip address with ip tables?
1304 [11:04:16] <Tapioco> someone from china keeps connecting to ssh
1305 [11:04:35] <shtrb> Tapioco use the country module
1306 [11:05:10] *** Quits: tikun (~David@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1307 [11:05:24] <Tapioco> I did iptables -A INPUT -s IP-ADDRESS -j DROP
1308 [11:05:29] <shtrb> -m geoip --src-cc CN -j DROP
1309 [11:05:35] *** Quits: QualityAddict (~QualityAd@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1310 [11:05:36] <shtrb> this will block the entire country
1311 [11:05:46] <Tapioco> ok
1312 [11:05:53] *** Quits: well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1313 [11:06:23] <Tapioco> -A INPUT -m geoip --src-cc CN -j DROP
1314 [11:06:24] <Tapioco> ??
1315 [11:06:32] <shtrb> iptables -m geoip --src-cc CN -j DROP
1316 [11:06:34] *** Quits: abff (~abff@replaced-ip ) (Read error: No route to host)
1317 [11:06:36] *** Quits: familiargalaxy (~ashok@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
1318 [11:06:38] <Tapioco> ok
1319 [11:06:45] <shtrb> iptables -A INPUT -m geoip --src-cc CN -j DROP
1320 [11:06:46] *** Quits: familiar1alaxy (~ashok@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
1321 [11:06:46] <shtrb> sorry
1322 [11:06:49] *** Joins: abff (~abff@replaced-ip )
1323 [11:06:50] *** Joins: shad0w (~matthew@replaced-ip )
1324 [11:06:54] *** Joins: cruncher (~cruncher@replaced-ip )
1325 [11:07:00] <shtrb> (*) but you need to have geoip module installed
1326 [11:07:08] <Tapioco> could not load geoip
1327 [11:07:25] *** Quits: jemadux (~jemadux@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1328 [11:08:00] *** Joins: legend (~killbill@replaced-ip )
1329 [11:08:30] <secmeant> deamon failed to start problem is gone after reinstalling driver and rebooting, however cant see wireless network list on broadcom 4312 even if 'ifup wlan0' works and i have internet connection, anyone know how to solve this please ?
1330 [11:08:44] <shtrb> Tapioco , did you install geoip support ?
1331 [11:08:51] <Tapioco> yes
1332 [11:09:36] <Tapioco> Could not open /usr/share/xt_geoip/LE/CN.iv4: No such file or directory iptables v1.4.21: Could not read geoip database
1333 [11:09:50] *** Joins: well_laid_lawnch (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip )
1334 [11:10:09] *** Quits: Purec (~Purec@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1335 [11:11:01] *** Quits: Cybertinus (~Cybertinu@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1336 [11:11:07] <shtrb> I think it didn't download the actual db (there was an update script that need to be run , blame systemd for not starting it)
1337 [11:12:35] *** Quits: legend (~killbill@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1338 [11:13:12] *** Quits: hele (~hele@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
1339 [11:13:13] <Tapioco> anyway
1340 [11:13:15] <Tapioco> why
1341 [11:13:21] <Tapioco> I did iptables -A INPUT -s IP-ADDRESS -j DROP
1342 [11:13:24] <Tapioco> is not working?
1343 [11:13:38] *** Quits: well_laid_lawnch (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1344 [11:13:40] *** Quits: graytron (~tero@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1345 [11:13:53] <apollo13> that strongly depends on what has been in the input chain before
1346 [11:13:56] *** Joins: Purec (~Purec@replaced-ip )
1347 [11:14:28] *** Quits: enki (~enki@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1348 [11:14:57] <shtrb> Tapioco , you may need to unzip the zip files under /usr/share/xt_geoip/ (use the xt_build option )
1349 [11:15:34] *** Quits: TheCoffeMaker (~TheCoffeM@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1350 [11:15:35] <shtrb> *and use xt_build
1351 [11:15:47] *** Joins: Cybertinus (~Cybertinu@replaced-ip )
1352 [11:16:24] *** Quits: Ralin3 (~Ralin3@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1353 [11:16:37] *** Quits: tyranny12 (~blarg@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1354 [11:16:39] *** Joins: lukas_gab (~lukas_gab@replaced-ip )
1355 [11:16:45] *** Joins: enki (~enki@replaced-ip )
1356 [11:17:40] *** Joins: tyranny12 (~blarg@replaced-ip )
1357 [11:17:40] *** Quits: tyranny12 (~blarg@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1358 [11:17:40] *** Joins: tyranny12 (~blarg@replaced-ip )
1359 [11:18:21] *** Quits: Futha (~Futha@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1360 [11:18:22] *** Joins: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1361 [11:18:35] <lukas_gab> Hi! Folks - I need your help. I want to write start script to start all virtual machines on my KVM, when serwer start. Script is simple, but how Debian can trigger this script on start up ?
1362 [11:18:40] *** Joins: Futha (~Futha@replaced-ip )
1363 [11:19:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1680
1364 [11:19:04] *** Joins: Esti_Qatzi (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1365 [11:19:04] *** Quits: Esti_Qatzi (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1366 [11:19:04] *** Joins: Esti_Qatzi (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1367 [11:19:13] <lukas_gab> On Windows I have system scheduler, but Debian has some similar ?
1368 [11:19:32] *** Joins: graytron (~tero@replaced-ip )
1369 [11:19:41] *** Quits: Futha (~Futha@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1370 [11:19:49] <shtrb> lukas_gab , cron + systemd timers
1371 [11:20:05] *** Joins: Futha (~Futha@replaced-ip )
1372 [11:20:11] *** Joins: Bastien__ (02008c14@replaced-ip )
1373 [11:20:17] *** Joins: n3ss (~n3ss@replaced-ip )
1374 [11:20:18] <lukas_gab> but cron start period, I want to start this script only ona startup
1375 [11:20:21] <shtrb> it has more "features" and more adjustments
1376 [11:20:41] <jmcnaught> lukas_gab: if you are using libvirt you can "virsh -c qemu:///system autostart domain"
1377 [11:20:43] *** Joins: HeOS (~heos@replaced-ip )
1378 [11:20:55] <lukas_gab> hmmm interesting
1379 [11:21:05] *** Joins: wildlander (~wildlande@replaced-ip )
1380 [11:21:14] <Bastien__> Hello, I have created a bootable USB key of Debian 9.1 which starts but I propose only to install it! How to test it in live? Thank you
1381 [11:21:25] <nkuttler> lukas_gab: see also man 5 crontab
1382 [11:21:35] *** Joins: BuDDy2001 (~budd@replaced-ip )
1383 [11:21:41] <lukas_gab> ok, thanks, go read man
1384 [11:21:49] <lukas_gab> thanks gor your help
1385 [11:21:58] <nkuttler> but libvirt would be my first choice
1386 [11:22:05] <shtrb> you can setup a service to only start on boot (systemd service or in a timer (one time) )
1387 [11:22:39] *** Joins: shinnok (~shinnok@replaced-ip )
1388 [11:22:49] *** Joins: l3archos (~Icedove@replaced-ip )
1389 [11:22:54] <Bastien__> Hello, I have created a bootable USB key of Debian 9.1 which starts but I propose only to install it! How to test it in live? Thank you
1390 [11:23:45] *** Quits: overlord_tm (~andraz@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1391 [11:24:38] *** Joins: legend (~killbill@replaced-ip )
1392 [11:24:57] *** Quits: citypw (~citypw@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1393 [11:25:44] *** Quits: karakedi (~eAC53C340@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1394 [11:25:49] *** Joins: citypw (~citypw@replaced-ip )
1395 [11:26:30] *** Quits: CBF16888 (~CBF16888@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1396 [11:26:49] *** Quits: maxime_ (~maxime@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1397 [11:26:56] *** Joins: CBF16888 (~CBF16888@replaced-ip )
1398 [11:28:52] *** Joins: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip )
1399 [11:29:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1688
1400 [11:30:00] *** Joins: Darcidride (~Darcidrid@replaced-ip )
1401 [11:30:52] *** Joins: kzimmermann (~username@replaced-ip )
1402 [11:31:41] *** Joins: monpocchi (~monpocchi@replaced-ip )
1403 [11:31:50] *** Joins: Velgor (~Velgor@replaced-ip )
1404 [11:32:06] *** Quits: catsup (d@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1405 [11:32:08] *** Quits: Jantz (~IceChat9@replaced-ip ) (Quit: When the chips are down, the buffalo is empty)
1406 [11:32:15] *** Joins: catsup (~d@replaced-ip )
1407 [11:33:21] *** Quits: mar77i_ (~mar77i@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1408 [11:33:30] *** Quits: catsup (~d@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1409 [11:33:34] *** Quits: juboxi (~juboxi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1410 [11:33:52] *** Joins: catsup (d@replaced-ip )
1411 [11:33:57] *** Quits: legend (~killbill@replaced-ip ) (Quit: legend)
1412 [11:34:18] *** Joins: towo` (~towo@replaced-ip )
1413 [11:34:24] *** Joins: TheCreepyCrow (~TheCreepy@replaced-ip )
1414 [11:34:32] *** Quits: n3ss (~n3ss@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1415 [11:38:07] *** Parts: TheCreepyCrow (~TheCreepy@replaced-ip )
1416 [11:38:25] *** Quits: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1417 [11:38:31] *** Quits: sumyunseal (~sumyunsea@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1418 [11:39:01] *** Joins: brokency1le (~brokencyc@replaced-ip )
1419 [11:39:36] *** Joins: err404 (~err404@replaced-ip )
1420 [11:40:07] *** Quits: err404 (~err404@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1421 [11:40:27] *** Joins: m_ (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1422 [11:42:36] *** Joins: emx (~bemx@replaced-ip )
1423 [11:43:38] <emx> i have this message when trying to access a glusterfs shared over samba: Error loading module '/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/samba/vfs/glusterfs.so': /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/samba/vfs/glusterfs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
1424 [11:43:48] <emx> is samba-vfs-modules the package that i am missing?
1425 [11:44:14] *** Joins: sleepruim (~Icedove@replaced-ip )
1426 [11:45:25] *** Joins: xet7 (~xet7@replaced-ip )
1427 [11:45:32] *** Joins: err404 (~err404@replaced-ip )
1428 [11:47:44] *** Joins: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip )
1429 [11:48:15] <cruncher> emx, yes
1430 [11:48:48] *** Joins: orphean_ (~Orphean@replaced-ip )
1431 [11:48:51] *** Quits: mzf (~mzf@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1432 [11:49:02] *** Joins: gonegirl (~gonegirl@replaced-ip )
1433 [11:49:13] *** Quits: gonegirl (~gonegirl@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1434 [11:49:37] <emx> cruncher, that so file is not contained in it.
1435 [11:49:56] *** Joins: Tolnaiz (~tolnaiz@replaced-ip )
1436 [11:50:04] <emx> using samba 4.2.14-Debian
1437 [11:50:27] *** Quits: Aquarina (~GRAMA@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1438 [11:51:09] *** Quits: l3archos (~Icedove@replaced-ip ) (Quit: l3archos)
1439 [11:51:29] <emx> there might be a workaround for this: when i mount glusterfs into my filesystem, i can simply share that one instead of using vfs. correct?
1440 [11:51:46] *** Joins: digitalnomad91 (~Moose@replaced-ip )
1441 [11:52:16] *** Quits: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1442 [11:52:28] *** Quits: cruncher (~cruncher@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1443 [11:52:33] *** Joins: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip )
1444 [11:55:47] *** Quits: shinnok (~shinnok@replaced-ip ) (Quit: byebye)
1445 [11:57:02] <Tapioco> please help, is someone able to install xtables from dkms sources on jessie?
1446 [11:57:21] *** Quits: phix (~threat@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1447 [11:57:55] *** Joins: Wonuku (~wonuku@replaced-ip )
1448 [11:58:34] *** Joins: cruncher (~cruncher@replaced-ip )
1449 [11:59:20] *** Joins: phix (~threat@replaced-ip )
1450 [11:59:45] *** Joins: jingojang (~knoppix@replaced-ip )
1451 [11:59:56] <jingojang> !verify
1452 [12:00:00] <jingojang> hi
1453 [12:00:06] *** Joins: Purec_ (~Purec@replaced-ip )
1454 [12:00:17] *** Quits: Purec (~Purec@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - ##replaced-url
1455 [12:00:37] <jingojang> what was the correct command to check the sha256sum of an already burned DVD again?
1456 [12:00:37] *** Joins: TrueDD (~truedd@replaced-ip )
1457 [12:00:43] *** Quits: Purec_ (~Purec@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1458 [12:01:00] *** Quits: chalcedony (~chalcedon@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
1459 [12:01:22] <jingojang> dd if=/dev/sr0 | sha256sum seems to sometimes work, sometimes not
1460 [12:01:28] *** Joins: Purec (~Purec@replaced-ip )
1461 [12:01:50] *** Joins: high_fiver (~high_five@replaced-ip )
1462 [12:02:02] *** Joins: mar77i (~mar77i@replaced-ip )
1463 [12:02:21] *** Quits: Bastien__ (02008c14@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Page closed)
1464 [12:03:27] *** Joins: mzf (~mzf@replaced-ip )
1465 [12:04:23] *** Quits: robotroll (~robotroll@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1466 [12:04:23] *** Quits: Zvmdyv (nnn@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1467 [12:04:46] <merimel> you can checksum source files, and then checksum disc files, and then compare both lists
1468 [12:05:30] <jingojang> you mean iso files?
1469 [12:06:22] *** Quits: antgel (~topdog@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1470 [12:06:49] <jingojang> yes - but i think either my burner always messes up the specific dvd or there is another reason why the shasums differ
1471 [12:07:25] *** Quits: rocksteady (~tyfoo@replaced-ip ) (Quit: have phun)
1472 [12:07:28] <jingojang> the sha256sum of the disc and the iso are different, but all the discs have the same sha256
1473 [12:07:38] <jingojang> so maybe my command is wrong?
1474 [12:08:17] <jingojang> (i tried burning it 3 times in total)
1475 [12:08:41] *** Joins: sturfman (~sturfman@replaced-ip )
1476 [12:09:38] *** Quits: notswengr (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1477 [12:10:02] *** Quits: dselect (~dselect@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ouch... that hurt)
1478 [12:10:04] *** Quits: Crushing (~Crushing@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1479 [12:10:25] <cruncher> jingojang, to test, create a iso of the dvd, then check the iso with sha256sum
1480 [12:10:40] *** Joins: password8 (~password@replaced-ip )
1481 [12:10:55] *** Joins: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1482 [12:11:08] *** Joins: notswengr (~textual@replaced-ip )
1483 [12:11:19] *** Quits: lukas_gab (~lukas_gab@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1484 [12:11:27] *** Quits: password2 (~password@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1485 [12:11:29] *** Joins: dselect (~dselect@replaced-ip )
1486 [12:12:04] *** Joins: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip )
1487 [12:12:34] <jingojang> good advice, thanks, will try that
1488 [12:13:34] *** Quits: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1489 [12:13:53] *** Quits: banc (~master@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1490 [12:14:22] *** Joins: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip )
1491 [12:14:40] *** Joins: chalcedony (~chalcedon@replaced-ip )
1492 [12:15:21] *** Joins: colinjmatt (~colinjmat@replaced-ip )
1493 [12:15:34] *** Quits: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1494 [12:15:36] *** Joins: banc (~master@replaced-ip )
1495 [12:15:51] *** Quits: robmozart (sid12935@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
1496 [12:16:05] *** Joins: knstn (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1497 [12:19:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1694
1498 [12:20:18] *** Joins: rsx (~rsx@replaced-ip )
1499 [12:22:40] *** Quits: banc (~master@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1500 [12:22:44] *** Quits: id4rk (~id4rk@replaced-ip ) (Quit: o/)
1501 [12:22:52] *** Parts: jingojang (~knoppix@replaced-ip )
1502 [12:24:27] *** Quits: err404 (~err404@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1503 [12:24:34] *** Joins: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip )
1504 [12:24:34] *** Quits: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
1505 [12:24:39] *** Joins: err404 (~err404@replaced-ip )
1506 [12:24:48] *** Quits: colinjmatt (~colinjmat@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1507 [12:25:04] *** Joins: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip )
1508 [12:25:12] *** Parts: secmeant (holz@replaced-ip )
1509 [12:25:24] *** Joins: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip )
1510 [12:25:34] *** Quits: rovonovo_zoro (uid229900@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
1511 [12:27:26] *** Joins: password2 (~password@replaced-ip )
1512 [12:28:54] *** Joins: banc (~master@replaced-ip )
1513 [12:29:47] *** Quits: password8 (~password@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1514 [12:30:15] *** Quits: root-x (~root-x@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1515 [12:30:54] *** Quits: Soul_Eater (~marcelo@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1516 [12:31:29] *** Quits: Nnavd (~Nnavd@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1517 [12:31:57] *** Joins: root-x (~root-x@replaced-ip )
1518 [12:32:23] *** Joins: SuperTramp83 (~SuperTram@replaced-ip )
1519 [12:33:44] *** Joins: Domhack (~Domhack@replaced-ip )
1520 [12:36:42] *** Quits: czesmir (~stefan@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
1521 [12:37:22] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1522 [12:37:32] *** Joins: eshlox (uid44222@replaced-ip )
1523 [12:37:56] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip )
1524 [12:37:57] *** Quits: BenNZ (~Ben__@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Everytime I think IQ's must have dropped recently, I remember that this is the internet)
1525 [12:38:52] *** Joins: dayten_ (~gnoid@replaced-ip )
1526 [12:38:55] *** Joins: BenNZ (~Ben__@replaced-ip )
1527 [12:39:40] <Wolfie> trying another push for installing stretch
1528 [12:39:55] *** Quits: dayten (~gnoid@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1529 [12:40:12] *** Joins: Wizek_ (~Wizek@replaced-ip )
1530 [12:41:37] *** Quits: HasanAtizaza (~hasan@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1531 [12:42:36] *** Joins: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip )
1532 [12:44:00] *** Quits: Neobenedict (~Neobenedi@replaced-ip ) ()
1533 [12:44:13] *** Joins: HasanAtizaza (~hasan@replaced-ip )
1534 [12:44:45] *** Quits: BenNZ (~Ben__@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Everytime I think IQ's must have dropped recently, I remember that this is the internet)
1535 [12:45:08] *** Joins: martastain (~martastai@replaced-ip )
1536 [12:45:11] *** Joins: czesmir (~stefan@replaced-ip )
1537 [12:45:21] *** Quits: kzimmermann (~username@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1538 [12:48:14] *** Joins: Ralin3 (~Ralin3@replaced-ip )
1539 [12:48:19] *** Joins: antgel (~topdog@replaced-ip )
1540 [12:49:00] *** Joins: tacegory (~tacegory@replaced-ip )
1541 [12:49:13] *** Quits: Orbitrix (~Huevos@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1542 [12:49:39] *** Joins: ltem (~ltem@replaced-ip )
1543 [12:50:06] *** Quits: root-x (~root-x@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1544 [12:50:52] *** Joins: preview (~preview@replaced-ip )
1545 [12:51:00] *** Quits: netsnail (~netsnail@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1546 [12:51:28] *** Joins: root-x (~root-x@replaced-ip )
1547 [12:51:52] *** Joins: rgr (~rgr@replaced-ip )
1548 [12:52:10] *** Quits: Delta-One (~zero@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1549 [12:52:19] *** Quits: high_fiver (~high_five@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1550 [12:53:36] *** Quits: phinxy (~tehhhd@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1551 [12:54:20] *** Quits: rsx (~rsx@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1552 [12:54:46] *** Quits: ________ (uid108572@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
1553 [12:54:58] *** Quits: rgr (~rgr@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1554 [12:55:45] *** Joins: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip )
1555 [12:58:17] *** Quits: James_T (james@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Ohh Noes i dieded :'()
1556 [12:58:42] *** Joins: SuperTramp83_ (~SuperTram@replaced-ip )
1557 [13:00:01] *** Joins: Haudegen (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1558 [13:00:20] *** Quits: SuperTramp83 (~SuperTram@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1559 [13:00:41] *** Quits: pingfloyd (~pingfloyd@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ☮ out)
1560 [13:01:51] *** Joins: kzimmermann (~username@replaced-ip )
1561 [13:02:19] *** Joins: James_T (james@replaced-ip )
1562 [13:02:25] *** Quits: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1563 [13:03:27] *** Joins: Futha_ (~Futha@replaced-ip )
1564 [13:04:09] *** Quits: Futha_ (~Futha@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1565 [13:05:01] *** Quits: dpkg (~dpkg@replaced-ip ) (Quit: buh bye!)
1566 [13:05:14] *** Joins: karakedi (~eAC53C340@replaced-ip )
1567 [13:05:25] *** Joins: dpkg (~dpkg@replaced-ip )
1568 [13:07:19] *** Joins: Quatroking (~Quatrokin@replaced-ip )
1569 [13:08:09] *** Joins: galex-713_ (~galex-713@replaced-ip )
1570 [13:08:52] *** Quits: m_ (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1571 [13:09:47] *** Quits: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1572 [13:10:32] *** Quits: j08nY (~j08nY@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1573 [13:11:53] *** Joins: mar77i_ (~mar77i@replaced-ip )
1574 [13:13:06] *** Quits: pyface (~pyface@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1575 [13:14:01] *** Joins: Esti_Qatzi_ (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1576 [13:14:06] *** Quits: mar77i (~mar77i@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1577 [13:14:27] *** Quits: Esti_Qatzi (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
1578 [13:16:05] *** Joins: guoruei (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1579 [13:16:25] *** Joins: m_ (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1580 [13:16:42] *** Quits: rebrec (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1581 [13:16:47] *** Joins: rebrec_ (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1582 [13:17:17] <guoruei> hello
1583 [13:18:43] <guoruei> i look for a python script to do this
1584 [13:19:31] <guoruei> pseudocolor.py -in a.png -out b.png
1585 [13:19:44] <guoruei> for photo to pseudo color picture
1586 [13:19:58] <nkuttler> sounds like you want #python
1587 [13:20:05] <guoruei> yes
1588 [13:20:10] <guoruei> but
1589 [13:20:19] <guoruei> You cannot send messages to #python-unregistered.
1590 [13:20:37] <guoruei> what is going on this
1591 [13:20:43] <Wolfie> its nickserv
1592 [13:20:56] <Wolfie> */msg nickserv help
1593 [13:20:59] <nkuttler> guoruei: you need to register, ask in #freenode for help with that
1594 [13:21:04] *** Quits: err404 (~err404@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1595 [13:21:23] <guoruei> how to register
1596 [13:21:24] <Wolfie> its sent you to the unregisted channel due to not having a nickserve account on freenode
1597 [13:21:34] <Wolfie> ./msg nickserv help register
1598 [13:21:37] <guoruei> ok ..i try to go #freenode for help
1599 [13:21:43] <guoruei> thank you
1600 [13:21:44] *** Joins: Buluzz (~sahkohoyl@replaced-ip )
1601 [13:22:05] *** Joins: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip )
1602 [13:22:28] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1603 [13:23:00] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip )
1604 [13:23:45] *** Quits: OS-24309 (~OS-24309@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1605 [13:24:34] *** Quits: notswengr (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1606 [13:24:49] *** Joins: notswengr (~textual@replaced-ip )
1607 [13:26:35] *** Joins: martinus__ (~martin@replaced-ip )
1608 [13:27:29] *** Quits: cadillac_ (~omab@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1609 [13:27:51] *** Joins: CoderEurope (~TheHobbit@replaced-ip )
1610 [13:28:16] *** Quits: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1611 [13:28:27] *** Quits: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip##) (Quit: 15 minutes with you / oh, I wouldn't say no... I wear black on the outside because black is how I feel on the inside... Uso negro por fuera porque negro me siento por dentro... ##replaced-url
1612 [13:28:55] *** Joins: Phah11 (~Phah1@replaced-ip )
1613 [13:29:21] *** Joins: cadillac_ (~omab@replaced-ip )
1614 [13:29:39] *** Quits: czesmir (~stefan@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1615 [13:31:47] *** Joins: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip )
1616 [13:33:15] *** Joins: teclo- (42@replaced-ip )
1617 [13:33:51] *** Quits: guoruei (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: guoruei)
1618 [13:34:04] *** Quits: \\Mr_C\\ (mrc@replaced-ip ) (Quit: .)
1619 [13:34:13] *** Joins: guoruei (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1620 [13:35:50] *** Quits: citypw (~citypw@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1621 [13:35:55] *** Quits: bmr (~bmr@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ENXIO)
1622 [13:36:37] *** Quits: Buluzz (~sahkohoyl@replaced-ip ) ()
1623 [13:37:01] *** Joins: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1624 [13:38:34] *** guoruei is now known as Nong1
1625 [13:38:48] *** Joins: metax (~metax@replaced-ip )
1626 [13:40:24] *** Joins: faraco_ (~faraco@replaced-ip )
1627 [13:41:03] *** Joins: shinnok (~shinnok@replaced-ip )
1628 [13:41:33] <faraco_> hi guys, can I get help on how to include file images in autotools project for packaging? I'm not sure where else to ask (#autotools seems inactive to begin with)
1629 [13:42:25] *** Quits: chip_ (~chip@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1630 [13:42:55] <faraco_> I been following replaced-url
1631 [13:43:43] *** Joins: shinnok_ (~shinnok@replaced-ip )
1632 [13:44:25] *** Quits: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: nix64bit)
1633 [13:44:30] *** Joins: jemadux (~jemadux@replaced-ip )
1634 [13:46:47] *** Quits: shinnok (~shinnok@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1635 [13:47:08] *** Quits: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1636 [13:47:22] *** Quits: HeOS (~heos@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1637 [13:49:20] *** Quits: dayten_ (~gnoid@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1638 [13:49:57] *** Joins: zlepper (d46263ad@replaced-ip )
1639 [13:50:46] *** Quits: galex-713_ (~galex-713@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1640 [13:51:27] *** Quits: discovered (~discovere@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1641 [13:51:57] *** Joins: soee (~soee@replaced-ip )
1642 [13:52:01] *** Quits: CoderEurope (~TheHobbit@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1643 [13:52:15] *** Joins: remo (~user@replaced-ip )
1644 [13:52:27] <Nong1> 。。。
1645 [13:52:33] <Nong1> sorry...
1646 [13:52:48] *** Joins: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip )
1647 [13:53:01] <Nong1> i want chang my name Nong1 to Nong...
1648 [13:53:21] <Nong1> I do not kown how to do
1649 [13:53:25] *** Quits: sidmo_ (~ilven@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1650 [13:53:57] <SPF> that name is already in use
1651 [13:54:12] <Nong1> ...or guoruei
1652 [13:54:17] <Nong1> chang to guoruei
1653 [13:54:22] <faraco_> hi
1654 [13:54:31] <Nong1> ,,...cry...
1655 [13:54:32] <faraco_> you can do /nick name-of-choice
1656 [13:54:41] *** Quits: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1657 [13:55:14] *** Quits: percY- (~percY@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1658 [13:55:27] *** Joins: sidmo (~ilven@replaced-ip )
1659 [13:55:51] *** Quits: shinnok_ (~shinnok@replaced-ip ) (Quit: byebye)
1660 [13:55:59] *** Joins: Devastator_s (~Devastato@replaced-ip )
1661 [13:56:37] *** Quits: Devastator (~Devastato@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1662 [13:57:06] *** Quits: Darcidride (~Darcidrid@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1663 [13:57:26] *** Joins: rsx (~rsx@replaced-ip )
1664 [13:57:47] *** Quits: Nong1 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Nong1)
1665 [13:58:11] *** Joins: guoruei (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1666 [13:58:13] *** Joins: Lokke (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1667 [13:59:25] *** Joins: metaphysician (~meta-code@replaced-ip )
1668 [13:59:56] <metaphysician> What is the difference between .orig-src.tar.xz and .orig.tar.xz archives?
1669 [14:00:25] *** Quits: faraco_ (~faraco@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1670 [14:00:27] <Logg> onces the source code and one's the program problably
1671 [14:01:28] <guoruei> ye
1672 [14:01:38] *** Joins: ikus060 (~ikus060@replaced-ip )
1673 [14:02:00] *** Joins: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip )
1674 [14:03:31] *** Joins: nikaein (~nikaein@replaced-ip )
1675 [14:04:17] *** Quits: Se-bash (~seba@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1676 [14:04:17] *** Quits: nikaein (~nikaein@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1677 [14:04:54] *** Joins: CoderEurope (~TheHobbit@replaced-ip )
1678 [14:05:06] *** Joins: Se-bash (~seba@replaced-ip )
1679 [14:05:12] *** Joins: kupi (uid212005@replaced-ip )
1680 [14:05:38] *** Quits: mel00010 (~mel00010@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1681 [14:07:39] *** Joins: B[]rG (~tuptidup@replaced-ip )
1682 [14:08:10] *** Quits: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1683 [14:08:41] *** Joins: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip )
1684 [14:08:59] *** Joins: rkta (~kt@replaced-ip )
1685 [14:09:03] *** Quits: ani00765 (~anon@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1686 [14:09:05] <forcerecon> is there a terminal command to delete all games in debian or do you ahve to do them one at a time?
1687 [14:09:22] *** Joins: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip )
1688 [14:09:29] *** Joins: ani00765 (~anon@replaced-ip )
1689 [14:12:27] *** Quits: jandrusk (~jra@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1690 [14:13:29] *** Quits: emx (~bemx@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
1691 [14:13:32] <preview> does anyone have experience setting up vnc on a local network?
1692 [14:13:40] <preview> I'm trying to find a gui tool to do it for me
1693 [14:13:46] <preview> vino didn't seem to work
1694 [14:13:49] *** Joins: buffal0 (~buffal0@replaced-ip )
1695 [14:13:54] <preview> running Sid
1696 [14:13:56] <apollo13> vino works fine
1697 [14:14:07] <apollo13> sid is not supported in here
1698 [14:17:07] *** Quits: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1699 [14:17:40] *** Joins: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip )
1700 [14:19:31] *** Quits: guoruei (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: guoruei)
1701 [14:20:16] *** Joins: guoruei (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1702 [14:21:52] *** Joins: colinjmatt (~colinjmat@replaced-ip )
1703 [14:22:23] *** Joins: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip )
1704 [14:22:29] <Tom-_> forcecon, you can use dselect or aptitude or synaptic to make it faster
1705 [14:23:01] *** Joins: jackNemrod_ (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1706 [14:24:24] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1707 [14:24:24] *** jackNemrod_ is now known as jackNemrod
1708 [14:24:40] *** Joins: bitSt0rm (~manjana@replaced-ip )
1709 [14:25:03] *** Quits: wildlander (~wildlande@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Saliendo)
1710 [14:25:36] *** Joins: wildlander (~wildlande@replaced-ip )
1711 [14:26:25] *** Quits: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1712 [14:26:30] *** Joins: troffasky (~r00t@replaced-ip )
1713 [14:27:56] *** Joins: Brigo (~Brigo@replaced-ip )
1714 [14:28:30] *** Joins: ibthegreat (~ibthegrea@replaced-ip )
1715 [14:29:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1700
1716 [14:29:01] *** Quits: BWMerlin (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1717 [14:29:07] *** Quits: m_ (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1718 [14:31:43] *** Quits: rkta (~kt@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1719 [14:32:35] *** Joins: emx (~bemx@replaced-ip )
1720 [14:32:40] *** Joins: ibthegreat1 (~ibthegrea@replaced-ip )
1721 [14:32:42] *** Joins: zOthix (~zOthix@replaced-ip )
1722 [14:32:51] *** Joins: buffffal00 (~buffal0@replaced-ip )
1723 [14:33:00] <zOthix> what does [ which chsh ] command does?
1724 [14:33:27] *** Quits: Purec (~Purec@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1725 [14:33:46] <Logg> use `man`
1726 [14:34:13] *** Joins: silverhom (~silverhom@replaced-ip )
1727 [14:34:23] *** Joins: Schmetterwurm (~Schmetter@replaced-ip )
1728 [14:34:53] *** Quits: romano2k (~romano2k@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1729 [14:35:12] *** Quits: buffal0 (~buffal0@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1730 [14:35:19] *** Quits: ibthegreat (~ibthegrea@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1731 [14:35:47] <zOthix> got it, thanks !
1732 [14:35:53] <Logg> :)
1733 [14:36:05] *** Joins: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip )
1734 [14:36:21] *** Joins: juboxi (~juboxi@replaced-ip )
1735 [14:37:42] *** Joins: b30wulf (uid175355@replaced-ip )
1736 [14:38:29] <zOthix> what does " s " stands for in file permissions ?
1737 [14:38:29] *** Joins: romano2k (~romano2k@replaced-ip )
1738 [14:38:29] *** Quits: romano2k (~romano2k@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1739 [14:38:29] *** Joins: romano2k (~romano2k@replaced-ip )
1740 [14:38:33] *** Quits: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1741 [14:38:49] *** Joins: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip )
1742 [14:40:06] *** Quits: Wonuku (~wonuku@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1743 [14:40:19] *** Quits: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
1744 [14:40:20] *** Quits: ikus060 (~ikus060@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1745 [14:42:14] *** Joins: Purec (~Purec@replaced-ip )
1746 [14:43:37] *** Quits: dreamon (~dreamon@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1747 [14:44:39] *** Joins: Zvmdyv (nnn@replaced-ip )
1748 [14:44:46] *** Joins: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1749 [14:46:00] *** Joins: eMaks (~eMaks@replaced-ip )
1750 [14:50:35] *** Joins: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip )
1751 [14:51:20] *** Quits: Lokke (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lokke)
1752 [14:52:22] <shtrb> Is there a small tasklet to get a GUI in debian that would resolve in less than 2 GB root ?
1753 [14:53:20] *** Quits: notswengr (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1754 [14:53:48] <apollo13> well my debian install from yesterday took 900mb, fluxbox probably doesn't need a gb
1755 [14:54:13] *** Joins: notswengr (~textual@replaced-ip )
1756 [14:54:23] <shtrb> wow cool
1757 [14:54:23] *** Joins: bestucan (~bestucan@replaced-ip )
1758 [14:54:36] * shtrb looks for a fluxbox on google
1759 [14:55:16] <apollo13> though if you want an app like firefox to run, that will certainly pull in a bit more
1760 [14:56:05] <shtrb> That's part of my need
1761 [14:56:10] *** Joins: nast (~nast@replaced-ip )
1762 [14:56:50] *** Joins: GhostInTheShell (~melkor@replaced-ip )
1763 [14:57:47] <shtrb> the disk size is 2 GB and I wondered if there is anything I can actually use it
1764 [14:58:00] *** Quits: ibthegreat1 (~ibthegrea@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1765 [14:58:09] *** Quits: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1766 [14:59:36] *** Joins: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1767 [14:59:42] <shtrb> what I need is a terminal , FF / chrome an IRC client running and cmake and g++
1768 [15:03:30] *** Quits: Schmetterwurm (~Schmetter@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1769 [15:03:40] *** Quits: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1770 [15:03:41] *** Joins: SkyPatrol_ (~SkyPatrol@replaced-ip )
1771 [15:04:07] *** Joins: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip )
1772 [15:04:29] *** Quits: password2 (~password@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1773 [15:04:47] *** Joins: Schmetterwurm (~Schmetter@replaced-ip )
1774 [15:06:21] *** Quits: manjaroCinnamon1 (~Manjarous@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1775 [15:06:47] *** Joins: rodrigopaiva (~rodrigopa@replaced-ip )
1776 [15:06:56] *** Joins: M4g1c5t0rM (~M4g1c5t0r@replaced-ip )
1777 [15:06:58] *** Quits: notswengr (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Quit: umop apisdn - is this a palindrome)
1778 [15:07:10] *** Quits: SkyPatrol (~SkyPatrol@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1779 [15:07:22] *** Quits: buffffal00 (~buffal0@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
1780 [15:07:25] *** Quits: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1781 [15:07:55] *** Joins: percY- (~percY@replaced-ip )
1782 [15:08:20] *** Joins: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1783 [15:09:29] *** Joins: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip )
1784 [15:10:47] *** Quits: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1785 [15:13:00] *** Joins: rovonovo_zoro (uid229900@replaced-ip )
1786 [15:13:49] *** Joins: jstolarek (~killy@replaced-ip )
1787 [15:14:11] *** Joins: HSorgYves (~HSorgYves@replaced-ip )
1788 [15:14:13] <jstolarek> how can I learn what options were used to compile Debian's openvpn package?
1789 [15:14:14] *** Joins: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip )
1790 [15:14:29] <HSorgYves> Morning
1791 [15:15:06] <HSorgYves> May I convert my main partition from ext3 to ext4 on a running system or do I need to boot from a Live CD?
1792 [15:16:02] <jstolarek> auth-user-pass setting doesn't work for me and I don't know if this is the server's fault (not enabling auth-user-pass-verify) or the openvpn client on debian not being compiled with --enable-password-save
1793 [15:16:13] *** Quits: bestucan (~bestucan@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1794 [15:16:55] *** Quits: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1795 [15:17:45] *** Joins: UUID02 (~UUID00@replaced-ip )
1796 [15:18:36] *** Quits: Purec (~Purec@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1797 [15:19:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1706
1798 [15:19:32] *** Quits: antgel (~topdog@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1799 [15:20:35] *** Quits: knstn (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: knstn)
1800 [15:20:49] <hanasaki> have a thought as to why exim would be failing to connect to a smarthost? Remote host closed connection in response to initial connection connects fine manually with ssl client
1801 [15:21:04] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1802 [15:21:12] <Wolfie> HSorgYves, replaced-url
1803 [15:21:27] <Wolfie> its an outdated article but should still apply
1804 [15:21:47] *** Joins: Evol (~Cof@replaced-ip )
1805 [15:22:00] <Wolfie> well... actually it uses grub where debian is using grub2
1806 [15:22:17] <HSorgYves> Wolfie: would you recommend doing so or better stick with ext3?
1807 [15:22:22] *** Joins: Zap-W (~marceloa@replaced-ip )
1808 [15:22:31] <Zap-W> hi lesbian
1809 [15:23:02] *** Quits: xormor (~xormor@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1810 [15:23:11] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip )
1811 [15:23:14] *** Joins: semyon (~semyon@replaced-ip )
1812 [15:23:16] *** Joins: grimsley (~grimsley@replaced-ip )
1813 [15:23:22] <Wolfie> why are you running ext3 HSorgYves ?
1814 [15:23:53] <Wolfie> an old install?
1815 [15:24:17] <HSorgYves> Yes, installed in 2011
1816 [15:24:32] *** Quits: Aussie_matt (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1817 [15:24:39] *** Quits: Zap-W (~marceloa@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1818 [15:24:50] *** Joins: Purec (~Purec@replaced-ip )
1819 [15:25:58] *** Quits: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1820 [15:26:23] <Wolfie> what version of debian are you running?
1821 [15:27:12] *** Quits: rodrigopaiva (~rodrigopa@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1822 [15:28:00] <HSorgYves> Currently Jessie, preparing to upgrade to Stretch, was wondering if I shouldn't upgrade the file system too ;-)
1823 [15:28:42] *** Quits: Virgo_ (~Virgo@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1824 [15:30:09] *** Joins: jandrusk (~jra@replaced-ip )
1825 [15:30:27] *** Joins: czesmir (~stefan@replaced-ip )
1826 [15:31:06] *** Joins: m_ (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1827 [15:31:13] <Wolfie> HSorgYves, how many partitons make up your system
1828 [15:31:23] *** Quits: m_ (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1829 [15:31:31] <Wolfie> do you have seperate /boot partitions
1830 [15:31:41] *** Quits: troffasky (~r00t@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
1831 [15:31:50] <Wolfie> and such
1832 [15:32:04] <HSorgYves> Nope, 2 partitions, 1 for files, 1 for swap
1833 [15:32:25] *** Quits: kzimmermann (~username@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1834 [15:32:27] *** Joins: ietj (~ietj@replaced-ip )
1835 [15:33:01] *** Joins: m_ (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1836 [15:33:28] *** Quits: saturos (~saturos@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1837 [15:34:29] <nkuttler> HSorgYves: upgrading to ext4 is easy
1838 [15:34:45] <nkuttler> it's just tune2fs to add a journal, though you won't get 100% of the benefits
1839 [15:35:37] <Wolfie> nkuttler, not 100% true
1840 [15:36:11] <HSorgYves> nkuttler: not if I can't unmount the partition
1841 [15:36:13] <Wolfie> if HSorgYves doesn't adjust the fstab i don't think it can mount
1842 [15:36:32] <nkuttler> well, yeah, you need some live system
1843 [15:36:54] *** Joins: notswengr (~textual@replaced-ip )
1844 [15:36:58] *** Quits: eshlox (uid44222@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
1845 [15:36:59] <Wolfie> HSorgYves,
1846 [15:37:07] *** Joins: moldy (~rene@replaced-ip )
1847 [15:37:08] <moldy> hi
1848 [15:37:10] <Wolfie> follow this Converting a root filesystem to ext4
1849 [15:37:10] <Wolfie> replaced-url
1850 [15:38:25] <nkuttler> !ext3->ext4
1851 [15:38:53] *** Joins: saptech (~saptech@replaced-ip )
1852 [15:39:12] <nkuttler> dpkg: ping
1853 [15:39:12] <dpkg> pong
1854 [15:39:17] *** Joins: clickjack (~clickjack@replaced-ip )
1855 [15:39:18] <nkuttler> dpkg: ext3->ext4
1856 [15:39:19] <dpkg> To enable <ext4> features on an existing unmounted <ext3> file system (Linux 2.6.28 or later required): 'tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index /dev/sda1' (where sda1 is the partition containing the ext3 file system), then 'e2fsck -fD /dev/sda1' to fix modified on-disk structures. Don't forget to modify /etc/fstab and specify ext4 for the file system. Some ext4 features (e.g. flex_bg) can only be enabled during format via mke2fs.
1857 [15:39:28] *** Quits: colinjmatt (~colinjmat@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1858 [15:41:01] *** Quits: bitSt0rm (~manjana@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1859 [15:41:04] *** Joins: humbot (~i@replaced-ip )
1860 [15:42:45] *** juboxi is now known as jubo2
1861 [15:43:15] *** Joins: Se-bash^2 (~seba@replaced-ip )
1862 [15:43:20] *** Quits: Se-bash (~seba@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1863 [15:43:25] *** Se-bash^2 is now known as Se-bash
1864 [15:43:31] *** Quits: zOthix (~zOthix@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1865 [15:43:55] *** Joins: mtn (~mtn@replaced-ip )
1866 [15:44:17] *** Quits: metax (~metax@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1867 [15:44:34] *** Joins: anon (~anon@replaced-ip )
1868 [15:44:39] <anon> hello
1869 [15:44:52] <HSorgYves> nkuttler: i can't unmount it
1870 [15:44:55] *** Joins: bitSt0rm (~manjana@replaced-ip )
1871 [15:44:57] *** anon is now known as Guest56015
1872 [15:45:12] *** Quits: mar77i_ (~mar77i@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1873 [15:45:17] <Guest56015> so hyd
1874 [15:45:48] *** Quits: Guest56015 (~anon@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1875 [15:46:46] *** Joins: raj77in (~root@replaced-ip )
1876 [15:48:57] *** Quits: negatratoron (~negatrato@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1877 [15:49:04] *** Quits: mtn (~mtn@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1878 [15:50:13] *** Joins: krytarik (~krytarik@replaced-ip )
1879 [15:50:24] *** Joins: foxmean (~user@replaced-ip )
1880 [15:51:58] *** Quits: m_ (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1881 [15:52:21] *** Joins: davimore (~davimore@replaced-ip )
1882 [15:52:38] *** Quits: remo (~user@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1883 [15:53:57] *** Quits: Elirips (~Elirips@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1884 [15:54:51] *** Quits: bitSt0rm (~manjana@replaced-ip ) (Quit: )
1885 [15:55:11] *** Quits: foxmean (~user@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1886 [15:55:51] *** Joins: foxmean (~user@replaced-ip )
1887 [15:56:08] *** Quits: ietj (~ietj@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1888 [15:56:16] *** Parts: foxmean (~user@replaced-ip )
1889 [15:57:41] *** Joins: saturos (~saturos@replaced-ip )
1890 [15:58:02] *** Quits: GDiaX (~gdiax@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1891 [15:58:29] *** Joins: GDiaX (~gdiax@replaced-ip )
1892 [15:58:32] *** Joins: rkta (~kt@replaced-ip )
1893 [15:58:49] *** Joins: ianf (~ianf@replaced-ip )
1894 [16:02:41] *** Quits: Bsadowski1 (~Brian_S@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1895 [16:03:23] *** Joins: Bsadowski1 (~Brian_S@replaced-ip )
1896 [16:04:24] *** Joins: OS-4444 (~OS-53@replaced-ip )
1897 [16:04:47] *** Joins: th0r (~th0r@replaced-ip )
1898 [16:05:06] *** Quits: dpyro (~dpyro@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
1899 [16:05:29] *** Quits: Cl0udN9ne (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1900 [16:05:53] *** Joins: b (~coffee@replaced-ip )
1901 [16:07:07] *** Quits: GDiaX (~gdiax@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1902 [16:07:32] *** Joins: bipul (~bipul@replaced-ip )
1903 [16:08:44] *** Quits: hanasaki (~hanasaki@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1904 [16:10:53] <jelly> HSorgYves, if it's your root filesystem you'll need to do it off a livecd or similar, when it's not mounted
1905 [16:10:59] *** Joins: overlord_tm (~andraz@replaced-ip )
1906 [16:12:03] <jelly> mind you, only newly created and updated files are going to use newer features
1907 [16:12:07] <jelly> like extents
1908 [16:12:17] *** Joins: AlexPortable (uid7568@replaced-ip )
1909 [16:12:26] *** Joins: hanasaki (~hanasaki@replaced-ip )
1910 [16:13:11] <HSorgYves> jelly, so you think it's not worth upgrading?
1911 [16:13:46] *** Joins: mar77i (~mar77i@replaced-ip )
1912 [16:14:04] *** Joins: password2 (~password@replaced-ip )
1913 [16:15:36] *** Joins: password8 (~password@replaced-ip )
1914 [16:15:36] *** Quits: password8 (~password@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1915 [16:15:36] *** Joins: password8 (~password@replaced-ip )
1916 [16:16:27] *** Joins: badargo (~badargo@replaced-ip )
1917 [16:16:28] *** Joins: LtL (~ltl@replaced-ip )
1918 [16:16:49] *** Quits: password2 (~password@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1919 [16:17:48] *** Quits: martastain (~martastai@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
1920 [16:18:57] *** Quits: notswengr (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Quit: umop apisdn - is this a palindrome)
1921 [16:19:27] <badargo> ?
1922 [16:20:37] *** Quits: Bsadowski1 (~Brian_S@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1923 [16:21:07] *** Joins: Strife1989 (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1924 [16:21:28] *** Joins: Bsadowski1 (~Brian_S@replaced-ip )
1925 [16:21:32] *** Quits: badargo (~badargo@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
1926 [16:21:46] *** Joins: Matan[M] (~MatanM]@replaced-ip )
1927 [16:21:56] *** Quits: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1928 [16:22:27] *** Joins: ssaturos (~saturos@replaced-ip )
1929 [16:22:29] *** Joins: shinnok (~shinnok@replaced-ip )
1930 [16:22:44] *** Joins: wadadli (~anu0@replaced-ip )
1931 [16:22:48] *** Quits: Strife89 (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1932 [16:22:53] *** Quits: thunderrd (~thunderrd@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1933 [16:23:15] *** Joins: Tom01 (~tom@replaced-ip )
1934 [16:24:17] *** Joins: thunderrd (~thunderrd@replaced-ip )
1935 [16:24:27] *** Joins: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip )
1936 [16:24:30] *** Joins: colinjmatt (~colinjmat@replaced-ip )
1937 [16:24:53] *** Joins: dave0x6d (uid190567@replaced-ip )
1938 [16:25:26] *** Joins: shinnok_ (~shinnok@replaced-ip )
1939 [16:25:32] <jelly> HSorgYves, if you want to have full benefits, it's more worth to backup all the files, reformat to ext4, and restore
1940 [16:25:50] *** Quits: saturos (~saturos@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1941 [16:25:50] *** ssaturos is now known as saturos
1942 [16:26:23] <zlepper> How do I figure out what keeps crashing my server? /var/log/syslog doesn't contain any hints as far as I can see: replaced-url
1943 [16:26:28] *** Joins: sondr3 (~sondr3@replaced-ip )
1944 [16:26:40] *** Quits: ianf (~ianf@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1945 [16:26:48] <zlepper> That paste is from the time around when the server crashes
1946 [16:27:12] *** Quits: shinnok (~shinnok@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1947 [16:27:25] *** Quits: emx (~bemx@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1948 [16:27:26] *** Joins: trewe (~trewe@replaced-ip )
1949 [16:28:47] *** mvaenska1 is now known as mvaenskae
1950 [16:29:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1714
1951 [16:29:48] *** Quits: humbot (~i@replaced-ip ) (Quit: hello)
1952 [16:31:04] *** Joins: bitSt0rm (~AndChat11@replaced-ip )
1953 [16:31:28] *** Quits: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1954 [16:31:29] *** Joins: carmelo11 (974a79bf@replaced-ip )
1955 [16:31:33] *** Joins: notswengr (~textual@replaced-ip )
1956 [16:33:20] <carmelo11> hi
1957 [16:33:30] <carmelo11> I would like to know if I can use rufus to create a debian-netinst.iso image bootable usb
1958 [16:33:44] *** Quits: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1959 [16:34:17] <carmelo11> Using rufus i the ISO remains intact?
1960 [16:34:34] *** Quits: lexruee (~lexruee@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1961 [16:34:47] *** Joins: porton (~porton@replaced-ip )
1962 [16:35:01] *** Quits: M4g1c5t0rM (~M4g1c5t0r@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1963 [16:35:28] *** Quits: rkta (~kt@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1964 [16:35:55] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1965 [16:36:21] *** Quits: OS-4444 (~OS-53@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1966 [16:36:42] *** Quits: hualet (~hualet@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1967 [16:36:55] *** Joins: SuperTramp83__ (~SuperTram@replaced-ip )
1968 [16:37:23] *** SuperTramp83__ is now known as SuperTramp83
1969 [16:37:41] *** Joins: DeaDSouL (~DeaDSouL@replaced-ip )
1970 [16:37:49] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip )
1971 [16:38:01] *** Quits: SuperTramp83_ (~SuperTram@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1972 [16:38:04] *** Quits: BuDDy2001 (~budd@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1973 [16:38:27] *** Joins: lexruee (~lexruee@replaced-ip )
1974 [16:38:35] *** Quits: password8 (~password@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1975 [16:39:34] *** Quits: raynold (uid201163@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
1976 [16:40:21] *** Joins: GDiaX (~gdiax@replaced-ip )
1977 [16:42:57] *** Joins: SuperTramp83_ (~SuperTram@replaced-ip )
1978 [16:43:29] *** Joins: Orbitrix (~Huevos@replaced-ip )
1979 [16:44:00] *** Joins: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip )
1980 [16:44:00] *** Quits: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1981 [16:44:00] *** Joins: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip )
1982 [16:44:58] *** Joins: nertaxos (~nertaxos@replaced-ip )
1983 [16:45:39] <abrotman> carmelo11: from windows? use win32diskimager
1984 [16:45:52] *** Quits: SuperTramp83 (~SuperTram@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1985 [16:45:53] *** Quits: grimsley (~grimsley@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1986 [16:45:59] <jelly> carmelo11, rufus and unetbootin are known to mess things up
1987 [16:48:24] *** Joins: bgardner (~bgardner@replaced-ip )
1988 [16:48:30] *** Quits: Orbitrix (~Huevos@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1989 [16:49:00] <carmelo11> If you want to do the manual procedure from debian I just run these commands:
1990 [16:49:12] *** Joins: CharlieNoir (~chatzilla@replaced-ip )
1991 [16:49:22] <carmelo11> download replaced-url
1992 [16:49:34] <carmelo11> zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdb
1993 [16:49:50] <carmelo11> before format partion with fat32
1994 [16:50:01] <carmelo11> zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdb
1995 [16:50:26] <carmelo11> e then copy netinst.iso into partition
1996 [16:50:31] *** Joins: soee_ (~soee@replaced-ip )
1997 [16:50:40] <carmelo11> is correct?
1998 [16:51:08] *** Quits: thunderrd (~thunderrd@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1999 [16:51:44] *** Joins: password8 (~password@replaced-ip )
2000 [16:51:44] *** Quits: password8 (~password@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
2001 [16:51:44] *** Joins: password8 (~password@replaced-ip )
2002 [16:52:24] *** Quits: soee (~soee@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2003 [16:52:32] <abrotman> carmelo11: what are you trying to do?
2004 [16:52:55] *** Joins: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip )
2005 [16:53:10] *** Joins: thunderrd (~thunderrd@replaced-ip )
2006 [16:53:17] *** Quits: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2007 [16:53:19] *** Quits: LaunchDirector (~pi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
2008 [16:53:34] *** Joins: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip )
2009 [16:54:04] *** Joins: bitfreak25 (~bit25@replaced-ip )
2010 [16:54:14] *** Joins: LaunchDirector (~pi@replaced-ip )
2011 [16:54:20] <carmelo11> abrotman I need to install debian 9 from a usb key, as method 1 has created problems i want to create the usb key with the alternative method
2012 [16:54:20] *** Joins: aktau (~aktau@replaced-ip )
2013 [16:54:36] *** Joins: Lal_ (uid175029@replaced-ip )
2014 [16:54:39] *** Quits: saptech (~saptech@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2015 [16:54:48] *** Quits: user2468 (~user2468@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2016 [16:55:17] <tremolo> Why not dd the iso file to the usb drive?
2017 [16:55:51] *** Quits: Emmanuel_Chanel (~emmanuel@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2018 [16:56:19] *** Joins: Nemo_bis (federico@replaced-ip )
2019 [16:56:36] *** Quits: password8 (~password@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2020 [16:56:41] *** Quits: wadadli (~anu0@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Mutter: ##replaced-url
2021 [16:56:55] <carmelo11> tremolo I create the following error message and I also have problems when I open gparted to reformat it
2022 [16:57:06] *** Joins: InsterRandmNick (~max-m@replaced-ip )
2023 [16:57:36] <carmelo11> tremolo "the driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes but linux says it is 512 bytes"
2024 [16:57:40] *** Joins: TimWolla_ (~timwolla@replaced-ip )
2025 [16:58:22] *** Joins: Emmanuel_Chanel (~emmanuel@replaced-ip )
2026 [16:58:25] <carmelo11> the error message is when I use this method:
2027 [16:58:49] <Nemo_bis> How to do usb_modeswitch on rt2500 usb wifi stick (replaced-url
2028 [16:58:50] *** Quits: pavlx (~pavlx@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2029 [16:58:53] <carmelo11> method1: cp debian-netinst.iso /dev/sdb; sync
2030 [16:58:57] *** Joins: saptech (~saptech@replaced-ip )
2031 [16:59:17] *** Quits: InsterRandmNick (~max-m@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2032 [16:59:17] *** Quits: TimWolla_ (~timwolla@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2033 [16:59:29] <carmelo11> method2: dd if=debian-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M; sync
2034 [16:59:42] *** Joins: Orbitrix (~Huevos@replaced-ip )
2035 [17:00:50] <carmelo11> Can I use the method3?
2036 [17:01:21] <tremolo> If your usb disk is /dev/sdb
2037 [17:01:21] *** Joins: hele (~hele@replaced-ip )
2038 [17:01:41] <carmelo11> usb disk is /dev/sdb
2039 [17:01:54] *** Quits: ValodiaDeSeynes (~ValodiaDe@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
2040 [17:02:25] <carmelo11> step1: download replaced-url
2041 [17:02:45] <carmelo11> step2: format usb with fat32 for create a partition
2042 [17:03:07] <carmelo11> step3: zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdb
2043 [17:03:30] <carmelo11> step4: and then copy netinst.iso inside partition
2044 [17:03:37] <carmelo11> is correct?
2045 [17:03:49] <bitfreak25> @carmelo11 I came to the same problem than you, but I could use the USB key anyway for installation
2046 [17:04:16] <tremolo> If your goal is to install from a usb drive, it is probably much easier to download an installer iso and use dd to copy that to the usb drive.
2047 [17:05:16] <carmelo11> but this method3 is correct?
2048 [17:05:28] *** Joins: M4g1c5t0rM (~M4g1c5t0r@replaced-ip )
2049 [17:05:42] *** SuperTramp83_ is now known as SuperTramp83
2050 [17:05:42] <tremolo> I'm not familiar with it.
2051 [17:05:53] *** Quits: shinnok_ (~shinnok@replaced-ip ) (Quit: byebye)
2052 [17:05:58] *** Quits: Purec (~Purec@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2053 [17:06:12] <carmelo11> tremolo replaced-url
2054 [17:06:28] *** Joins: Lowl3v3l (~lowl3v3l@replaced-ip )
2055 [17:06:31] *** Quits: soee_ (~soee@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2056 [17:06:32] *** Quits: jukka_palmu (freq@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2057 [17:07:09] <bitfreak25> carmelo11 have you already tested the created USB-Drive for installation?
2058 [17:07:20] <bitfreak25> or where is the problem?
2059 [17:07:26] <tremolo> If I read that, you will still know as much about it as I do. :D
2060 [17:08:11] <carmelo11> bitfreak25 I still have to test Method 3 if you confirm me
2061 [17:08:14] *** Joins: wadadli (~anu0@replaced-ip )
2062 [17:08:34] *** Joins: password2 (~password@replaced-ip )
2063 [17:09:04] *** Quits: Emmanuel_Chanel (~emmanuel@replaced-ip ) (Read error: No route to host)
2064 [17:09:17] *** Joins: rkta (~kt@replaced-ip )
2065 [17:10:13] <bitfreak25> okay sorry, i have never tested method3
2066 [17:10:59] *** Joins: password8 (~password@replaced-ip )
2067 [17:11:01] *** Quits: wadadli (~anu0@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2068 [17:11:33] *** Quits: thunderrd (~thunderrd@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2069 [17:12:51] *** Joins: Emmanuel_Chanel (~emmanuel@replaced-ip )
2070 [17:12:52] *** Quits: digitalnomad91 (~Moose@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2071 [17:13:26] *** Joins: holy_cow (ca334c35@replaced-ip )
2072 [17:14:13] <bitfreak25> btw. i've got a problem when installing with the new debian 9.1 installer.. during installation, when the grub installer is on the point "update grub" its hanging and there is always the same harddrive access over and over again
2073 [17:14:24] <holy_cow> Hello, I have flashplugin-nonfree installed but neither firefox nor chromium can run flash. Chromium says can't load plugin and firefox displays download adobe flash page. Please help.
2074 [17:14:27] *** Quits: porton (~porton@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2075 [17:14:36] *** Quits: password2 (~password@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2076 [17:15:31] *** Quits: password8 (~password@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2077 [17:16:36] <bitfreak25> after poweroff-shutdown grub is installed, but i cant access the installed Debian with the choosen passwords
2078 [17:16:41] *** Quits: aktau (~aktau@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
2079 [17:18:59] *** Quits: holy_cow (ca334c35@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Page closed)
2080 [17:19:01] <carmelo11> zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdb return me "gzip: stdout: No space left on device" my pendrive is 1GB
2081 [17:19:06] *** Joins: ValodiaDeSeynes (~ValodiaDe@replaced-ip )
2082 [17:19:39] *** Joins: remo (~user@replaced-ip )
2083 [17:20:42] *** Joins: abhikpal (~abhikpal@replaced-ip )
2084 [17:21:06] *** abhikpal is now known as Guest50590
2085 [17:21:36] *** Quits: uNmowed|2 (~Mayu@replaced-ip##) (Quit: KVIrc 4.9.2 Aria ##replaced-url
2086 [17:22:18] *** Quits: mar77i (~mar77i@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2087 [17:22:30] *** Quits: rovonovo_zoro (uid229900@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
2088 [17:22:36] *** Joins: mar77i (~mar77i@replaced-ip )
2089 [17:23:10] *** Quits: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2090 [17:24:32] *** Joins: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip )
2091 [17:25:12] *** Joins: Lady_Aleena (~Lady-Alee@replaced-ip )
2092 [17:25:27] *** Quits: carmelo11 (974a79bf@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ##replaced-url
2093 [17:25:28] *** Quits: SuperTramp83 (~SuperTram@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2094 [17:25:46] <Lady_Aleena> Hello. Is K3b so bad at ripping CDs that Debian didn't put it on their page on CD Ripping? (replaced-url
2095 [17:25:53] *** Joins: citypw (~citypw@replaced-ip )
2096 [17:26:18] *** Quits: hid3 (~arnoldas@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2097 [17:27:07] *** Quits: Guest50590 (~abhikpal@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Guest50590)
2098 [17:27:34] *** Joins: user2468 (~user2468@replaced-ip )
2099 [17:27:35] *** Quits: ledeni (~ledeni@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2100 [17:27:40] *** Joins: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip )
2101 [17:27:46] *** Quits: tuH (~muh@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - ##replaced-url
2102 [17:28:09] *** Joins: tuH (~muh@replaced-ip )
2103 [17:28:25] <tremolo> I didn't realize k3b could rip CDs. It's been decent at burning them, though.
2104 [17:29:53] *** Joins: e64 (~e14@replaced-ip )
2105 [17:29:53] *** Quits: cadillac_ (~omab@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2106 [17:31:05] *** Quits: Renari (~Renari@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2107 [17:31:14] *** Quits: Evol (~Cof@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2108 [17:31:17] *** Joins: Renari (~Renari@replaced-ip )
2109 [17:31:23] *** Joins: ings (~ings@replaced-ip )
2110 [17:31:56] *** Joins: ChmEarl (~chmearl@replaced-ip )
2111 [17:32:37] *** Joins: cadillac_ (~omab@replaced-ip )
2112 [17:32:56] *** Joins: kculpis (~kculpic@replaced-ip )
2113 [17:33:12] *** Quits: ings (~ings@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2114 [17:33:37] *** Joins: thunderrd (~thunderrd@replaced-ip )
2115 [17:34:01] *** Joins: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip )
2116 [17:34:10] *** Joins: Purec (~Purec@replaced-ip )
2117 [17:37:04] *** Joins: hualet (~hualet@replaced-ip )
2118 [17:37:10] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2119 [17:37:54] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip )
2120 [17:38:02] *** Joins: uNmowed (~Mayu@replaced-ip )
2121 [17:38:39] *** Joins: emx (~bemx@replaced-ip )
2122 [17:38:50] <shtrb> base+fluxbox+xorg+ssh server over 1.2 GB :-( and still running
2123 [17:39:05] *** Joins: SpeccyMan (~nick@replaced-ip )
2124 [17:39:14] <guoruei> ....
2125 [17:39:27] *** Joins: frostschutz (~frostschu@replaced-ip )
2126 [17:39:53] *** Quits: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2127 [17:39:56] *** Quits: thunderrd (~thunderrd@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2128 [17:40:21] *** Joins: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip )
2129 [17:40:23] *** Joins: thunderrd (~thunderrd@replaced-ip )
2130 [17:41:25] *** Quits: silverhom (~silverhom@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2131 [17:41:40] *** Joins: BluesKaj (~Blues@replaced-ip )
2132 [17:41:53] *** Quits: hualet (~hualet@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2133 [17:42:23] *** Quits: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2134 [17:42:51] *** Joins: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip )
2135 [17:42:55] *** Parts: tuH (~muh@replaced-ip )
2136 [17:43:03] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
2137 [17:44:50] *** Joins: philipballew (~philip@replaced-ip )
2138 [17:45:00] *** Quits: e64 (~e14@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2139 [17:46:29] *** Joins: thunderrd_ (~thunderrd@replaced-ip )
2140 [17:47:02] *** Joins: discovered (~discovere@replaced-ip )
2141 [17:47:03] *** Quits: zlepper (d46263ad@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Page closed)
2142 [17:47:13] *** Quits: Purec (~Purec@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - ##replaced-url
2143 [17:48:46] *** Joins: lasdam (~lasdam@replaced-ip )
2144 [17:48:46] *** Quits: lasdam (~lasdam@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
2145 [17:48:46] *** Joins: lasdam (~lasdam@replaced-ip )
2146 [17:48:49] *** Quits: tty0_ (~NA@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2147 [17:49:56] *** Quits: thunderrd (~thunderrd@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2148 [17:50:22] *** Quits: thunderrd_ (~thunderrd@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
2149 [17:50:29] *** Joins: Purec (~Purec@replaced-ip )
2150 [17:50:41] *** Joins: thunderrd_ (~thunderrd@replaced-ip )
2151 [17:51:55] *** Quits: sach (~sach@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2152 [17:53:00] *** Joins: ikus060 (~ikus060@replaced-ip )
2153 [17:53:03] *** Joins: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip )
2154 [17:53:05] *** Quits: Intel4bite (Intel4bite@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2155 [17:54:20] *** Quits: discovered (~discovere@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2156 [17:55:01] *** Quits: rsx (~rsx@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2157 [17:55:05] *** Quits: thunderrd_ (~thunderrd@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
2158 [17:55:23] *** Joins: thunderrd_ (~thunderrd@replaced-ip )
2159 [17:59:32] *** Quits: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2160 [17:59:36] *** Quits: Phah11 (~Phah1@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2161 [17:59:37] *** Quits: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2162 [17:59:49] *** Joins: Libremind (~Libremind@replaced-ip )
2163 [18:00:38] *** Joins: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
2164 [18:00:52] *** Parts: Libremind (~Libremind@replaced-ip )
2165 [18:02:08] *** Quits: sobaken (~sobaken@replaced-ip ) ()
2166 [18:02:23] *** Joins: dzragon (~Unpas@replaced-ip )
2167 [18:04:03] *** RalphBa is now known as RalphBa|away
2168 [18:04:15] *** Joins: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip )
2169 [18:04:26] *** Joins: m_ (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2170 [18:05:38] *** Quits: dzragon (~Unpas@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2171 [18:06:07] *** Joins: scream (~scream@replaced-ip )
2172 [18:06:50] *** Joins: discovered (~discovere@replaced-ip )
2173 [18:07:05] *** Quits: BluesKaj (~Blues@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2174 [18:07:07] *** Joins: Sallu (~Sulman@replaced-ip )
2175 [18:07:10] *** Quits: Lirion (~m00se@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2176 [18:08:46] *** Quits: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2177 [18:10:16] *** Joins: BluesKaj (~Blues@replaced-ip )
2178 [18:10:21] *** Quits: hggdh (~hggdh@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2179 [18:10:21] *** Joins: e64 (~e14@replaced-ip )
2180 [18:10:44] *** Quits: notswengr (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Quit: umop apisdn - is this a palindrome)
2181 [18:11:36] *** Joins: m___ (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2182 [18:11:57] <discovered> I am getting boot error "Couldn't find mci handler "
2183 [18:11:57] *** Quits: m_ (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2184 [18:12:12] *** Joins: galex-713_ (~galex-713@replaced-ip )
2185 [18:12:44] *** Quits: thunderrd_ (~thunderrd@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2186 [18:13:03] *** Joins: hggdh (~hggdh@replaced-ip )
2187 [18:13:45] *** Joins: electrostat (~dag@replaced-ip )
2188 [18:13:53] *** Quits: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2189 [18:16:07] *** Quits: kculpis (~kculpic@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2190 [18:16:11] *** Quits: galex-713_ (~galex-713@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2191 [18:16:15] *** Joins: Intel4bite (~INTEL4BIT@replaced-ip )
2192 [18:16:36] *** Joins: buffal0 (~buffal0@replaced-ip )
2193 [18:17:13] *** Joins: galex-713_ (~galex-713@replaced-ip )
2194 [18:18:28] <ned_-> why the new debian 9 called stretch ?
2195 [18:18:29] *** Quits: galex-713_ (~galex-713@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2196 [18:18:49] *** Joins: galex-713_ (~galex-713@replaced-ip )
2197 [18:18:53] *** Joins: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip )
2198 [18:19:10] *** Joins: kculpis (~kculpic@replaced-ip )
2199 [18:19:17] <discovered> What kind of error is this?
2200 [18:19:37] <discovered> i love to stretch !!! :)
2201 [18:19:48] <ned_-> stretching :)
2202 [18:20:10] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2203 [18:20:30] *** Quits: CharlieNoir (~chatzilla@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 55.0/20170720101431])
2204 [18:21:18] *** Joins: terr1_ (~terr1@replaced-ip )
2205 [18:22:13] *** Joins: buffffal00 (~buffal0@replaced-ip )
2206 [18:22:25] *** Quits: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2207 [18:22:26] *** Quits: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2208 [18:22:59] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip )
2209 [18:23:02] *** Quits: terr1 (~terr1@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2210 [18:23:02] *** terr1_ is now known as terr1
2211 [18:23:02] *** Quits: terr1 (~terr1@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
2212 [18:23:02] *** Joins: terr1 (~terr1@replaced-ip )
2213 [18:23:29] *** Joins: RTFM[away] (~RTFMaway]@replaced-ip )
2214 [18:23:29] *** Quits: RTFM[away] (~RTFMaway]@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
2215 [18:23:29] *** Joins: RTFM[away] (~RTFMaway]@replaced-ip )
2216 [18:23:48] *** Joins: ledeni (~ledeni@replaced-ip )
2217 [18:24:17] <guoruei> replaced-url
2218 [18:24:17] <guoruei> how can i install that ?
2219 [18:24:25] *** Quits: buffal0 (~buffal0@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2220 [18:24:38] *** Quits: ledeni (~ledeni@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2221 [18:24:38] *** Joins: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip )
2222 [18:24:55] *** Quits: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2223 [18:25:00] *** Joins: ledeni (~ledeni@replaced-ip )
2224 [18:25:35] <guoruei> anyone ?
2225 [18:26:47] <CoderEurope> !install
2226 [18:26:47] <dpkg> There are a myriad of different ways to install Debian. See replaced-url
2227 [18:28:19] <guoruei> $ python rgb2pct.py
2228 [18:28:19] <guoruei> python: can't open file 'rgb2pct.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
2229 [18:28:19] <guoruei> CoderEurope:
2230 [18:28:26] <guoruei> CoderEurope:
2231 [18:28:26] <guoruei> ...
2232 [18:28:27] *** guoruei was kicked by debhelper (flood. Please use replaced-url
2233 [18:28:29] *** Joins: TheCoffeMaker (~TheCoffeM@replaced-ip )
2234 [18:28:54] *** Quits: nast (~nast@replaced-ip ) (Quit: nast)
2235 [18:30:18] *** Quits: Zvmdyv (nnn@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2236 [18:31:53] *** Quits: colinjmatt (~colinjmat@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Bye for now)
2237 [18:32:23] *** Quits: davimore (~davimore@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2238 [18:32:55] *** Quits: emx (~bemx@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2239 [18:33:03] *** Quits: bitfreak25 (~bit25@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2240 [18:34:01] *** Joins: dayten (~gnoid@replaced-ip )
2241 [18:35:19] *** Quits: ltem (~ltem@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2242 [18:35:27] *** Joins: victorqueiroz (~victor@replaced-ip )
2243 [18:35:32] <victorqueiroz> Hi guys
2244 [18:35:38] <victorqueiroz> Why I can't install linux headers on sid?
2245 [18:36:42] <towo`> who knows
2246 [18:36:52] *** Joins: zaturek (~mint@replaced-ip )
2247 [18:36:54] <towo`> "i can't" is saying zero
2248 [18:37:14] <victorqueiroz> You're right
2249 [18:37:15] <victorqueiroz> One sec
2250 [18:37:29] <towo`> and btw, wrong channel
2251 [18:37:45] <victorqueiroz> "linux-headers-amd64 depends on linux-headers-4.11.0-2-amd64 but it's not going to be installed'
2252 [18:37:50] *** Joins: humbot (~i@replaced-ip )
2253 [18:37:52] <towo`> support for unstable or testing is in #debian-next on oftc
2254 [18:37:56] <victorqueiroz> ' impossible to correct problems you kelp hold packages'
2255 [18:38:44] <victorqueiroz> I downloaded linux-source and I'm compiling it
2256 [18:38:52] <victorqueiroz> It's possible to install headers through there?
2257 [18:39:00] <zaturek> hi guys! There is any option to download a package with its dependencies and install it to an offline computer?
2258 [18:39:27] *** Quits: ikus060 (~ikus060@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2259 [18:39:32] <zaturek> keryx doesn't work
2260 [18:39:34] *** Joins: dzragon (~Unpas@replaced-ip )
2261 [18:39:40] <zaturek> apt-offline either
2262 [18:39:49] <zaturek> apt-media either
2263 [18:39:51] <victorqueiroz> #debian-next is invitation only
2264 [18:39:56] <m___> Can i get a newer version of KDE with Debian Stretch and if yes how?
2265 [18:39:58] <towo`> no is not
2266 [18:40:01] *** Joins: beingbrown (~beingbrow@replaced-ip )
2267 [18:40:04] <m___> Can i get a newer version of KDE with Debian Stretch and if yes how?
2268 [18:40:05] *** Quits: bitSt0rm (~AndChat11@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Bye)
2269 [18:40:08] <towo`> victorqueiroz, oftc is not freenode
2270 [18:40:09] <m___> right now it's: KDE 5.34.0 / Plasma 5.10.0
2271 [18:40:12] <m___> replaced-url
2272 [18:40:15] *** Quits: Sallu (~Sulman@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2273 [18:40:19] <Igel> victorqueiroz: may be you have installed linux-kernel-4.1.1 (specifically, not the meta-package, linux-kernel.. or linux-image.)
2274 [18:40:19] *** Quits: beingbrown (~beingbrow@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
2275 [18:40:19] *** Joins: beingbrown (~beingbrow@replaced-ip )
2276 [18:40:33] <victorqueiroz> How can I proceed lgel?
2277 [18:40:35] *** Quits: dzragon (~Unpas@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2278 [18:40:44] *** Joins: bit1 (~joseanton@replaced-ip )
2279 [18:40:46] <victorqueiroz> Thank you towo`, I'll take a look
2280 [18:41:21] *** Quits: tacegory (~tacegory@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2281 [18:41:53] *** Joins: bitSt0rm (~AndChat11@replaced-ip )
2282 [18:43:57] *** Quits: philipballew (~philip@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2283 [18:44:13] *** Quits: namix (~namix@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ...)
2284 [18:44:17] *** Quits: DeaDSouL (~DeaDSouL@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2285 [18:45:30] *** Quits: raj77in (~root@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2286 [18:45:39] *** Joins: CarolinaRube (~CarolinaR@replaced-ip )
2287 [18:45:49] *** Devastator_s is now known as Devastator
2288 [18:45:52] *** Quits: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2289 [18:46:01] *** Joins: DeaDSouL (~DeaDSouL@replaced-ip )
2290 [18:46:05] *** Joins: namix (~namix@replaced-ip )
2291 [18:46:05] *** Quits: namix (~namix@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
2292 [18:46:05] *** Joins: namix (~namix@replaced-ip )
2293 [18:47:03] *** Joins: kaboutur (~kaboutur@replaced-ip )
2294 [18:47:22] <abrotman> m___: not easily
2295 [18:47:30] *** Joins: antgel (~topdog@replaced-ip )
2296 [18:48:41] *** Quits: Intel4bite (~INTEL4BIT@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2297 [18:49:17] *** Joins: eshlox (uid44222@replaced-ip )
2298 [18:49:34] *** Joins: oojacoboo (~textual@replaced-ip )
2299 [18:51:14] *** Joins: emx (~bemx@replaced-ip )
2300 [18:51:25] *** Quits: DeaDSouL (~DeaDSouL@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2301 [18:52:00] *** Joins: dzragon (~Unpas@replaced-ip )
2302 [18:52:07] <merimel> m___: if you really need latest KDE, you can consider kubuntu, they have kde updates more often and now they have 5.10
2303 [18:52:17] <m___> i would like to try, do u have a link or suggestion abrotman
2304 [18:52:18] *** Quits: CBF16888 (~CBF16888@replaced-ip ) (Quit: CBF16888)
2305 [18:52:40] <zaturek> please guys! install build-essentials offline without keryx and apt-offline? there is even possible?
2306 [18:53:20] <discovered> I switched debian to kubuntu and then to debian again
2307 [18:53:39] <merimel> also there is kdesrc-build package in debian "tool for building KDE from its source repositories"
2308 [18:53:47] *** Quits: zaturek (~mint@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2309 [18:53:56] *** Joins: adoua (~adoua@replaced-ip )
2310 [18:54:27] <kaboutur> discovered: how was kubuntu? :)
2311 [18:55:04] *** Joins: maotm (~mao@replaced-ip )
2312 [18:55:16] <discovered> buggy !
2313 [18:56:04] *** Quits: TheCoffeMaker (~TheCoffeM@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2314 [18:56:22] <discovered> too much crash , kaboutur
2315 [18:56:34] <kaboutur> better run it in a vm :)
2316 [18:57:14] <merimel> which version of kubuntu you were using?
2317 [18:57:25] <m___> merimel: I don't really need the very latest KDE and i don't wanna go back to this Ubuntu world.
2318 [18:57:25] <discovered> 16.4
2319 [18:57:48] *** Joins: remo1 (~user@replaced-ip )
2320 [18:57:49] <discovered> The LTS
2321 [18:57:55] <merimel> pretty recent
2322 [18:58:08] *** Parts: pasky (~pasky@replaced-ip )
2323 [18:58:21] <merimel> 32 bit?
2324 [18:58:23] *** Joins: TheCoffeMaker (~TheCoffeM@replaced-ip )
2325 [18:58:50] <discovered> No. 64 bit. asus x99 mobo,6800k
2326 [18:59:57] <discovered> I don't think KDE will have anything new until 6.x
2327 [19:00:10] *** Joins: ConCarne (~Anonymous@replaced-ip )
2328 [19:00:25] *** Quits: remo (~user@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2329 [19:00:54] <merimel> but bugfixes important top
2330 [19:00:58] <merimel> *too
2331 [19:01:12] *** Quits: wujcin (~wujcin@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2332 [19:01:28] *** Joins: DeaDSouL (~DeaDSouL@replaced-ip )
2333 [19:01:56] *** Joins: scde (~scde@replaced-ip )
2334 [19:03:06] *** Joins: chip_ (~chip@replaced-ip )
2335 [19:03:07] *** Joins: thunderrd (~thunderrd@replaced-ip )
2336 [19:03:29] <m___> I went from Kubuntu to Manjaro, then Korora, Ubuntu Unity, lastly i went to Netrunner. Hope that's not a problem
2337 [19:03:35] *** Quits: e64 (~e14@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2338 [19:04:10] *** Joins: e64 (~e14@replaced-ip )
2339 [19:04:22] *** Quits: e64 (~e14@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2340 [19:04:23] <kaboutur> all these strange distributions these days
2341 [19:04:56] *** Quits: solarnetone (~scott@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2342 [19:05:22] *** Quits: bit1 (~joseanton@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2343 [19:06:29] *** Joins: beingbrown_ (~beingbrow@replaced-ip )
2344 [19:06:44] *** Joins: e64 (~e14@replaced-ip )
2345 [19:06:47] *** Quits: e64 (~e14@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2346 [19:06:50] *** Quits: cadillac_ (~omab@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2347 [19:07:22] *** Joins: tuH (~muh@replaced-ip )
2348 [19:07:50] *** Quits: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2349 [19:07:51] <m___> Unity was quite decent, this is why i chose to unitify my KDE a little bit. little bit gnome also in it.
2350 [19:07:52] *** Joins: kw21 (~kw21@replaced-ip )
2351 [19:07:52] <m___> replaced-url
2352 [19:08:12] *** Quits: beingbrown (~beingbrow@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2353 [19:08:20] *** Joins: e64 (~e14@replaced-ip )
2354 [19:08:23] *** Quits: e64 (~e14@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2355 [19:09:07] <merimel> unity 7 was good DE/WM, I agree
2356 [19:09:46] *** Joins: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip )
2357 [19:10:17] *** Joins: id4rk (~id4rk@replaced-ip )
2358 [19:10:22] <m___> yes
2359 [19:10:29] *** Joins: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
2360 [19:10:49] *** Joins: dontknow (~dontknow@replaced-ip )
2361 [19:11:18] *** Quits: Purec (~Purec@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - ##replaced-url
2362 [19:11:20] *** Joins: buffal0 (~buffal0@replaced-ip )
2363 [19:11:28] *** Quits: DeaDSouL (~DeaDSouL@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2364 [19:13:35] *** Quits: Matan[M] (~MatanM]@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2365 [19:14:16] *** Quits: buffffal00 (~buffal0@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2366 [19:14:21] *** Quits: thunderrd (~thunderrd@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2367 [19:15:40] *** Quits: beingbrown_ (~beingbrow@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2368 [19:17:57] *** Joins: argus (~t7DS@replaced-ip )
2369 [19:20:10] *** Quits: Brigo (~Brigo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2370 [19:20:18] *** Quits: sturfman (~sturfman@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ... zzz ZZZ zzz ...)
2371 [19:20:33] *** Quits: citypw (~citypw@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2372 [19:20:34] *** Quits: argus (~t7DS@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2373 [19:20:35] *** Quits: Al3xG0 (~t7DS@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2374 [19:20:38] *** Joins: lsv (~nn@replaced-ip )
2375 [19:20:44] *** Joins: Al3xG0 (~t7DS@replaced-ip )
2376 [19:20:44] *** Quits: Al3xG0 (~t7DS@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
2377 [19:20:44] *** Joins: Al3xG0 (~t7DS@replaced-ip )
2378 [19:20:52] *** Joins: citypw (~citypw@replaced-ip )
2379 [19:22:04] *** Joins: Modeuse (~kvirc@replaced-ip )
2380 [19:22:14] *** Joins: hid3 (~arnoldas@replaced-ip )
2381 [19:22:19] *** Joins: D4v3Nu11 (~D4v3Nu11@replaced-ip )
2382 [19:25:19] *** Joins: dboune (~dboune@replaced-ip )
2383 [19:26:01] *** Quits: Artox (~Artox@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2384 [19:26:56] *** Joins: gadgetguy_ (~gadgetguy@replaced-ip )
2385 [19:26:57] *** Quits: Gadget (~gadgetguy@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2386 [19:27:10] *** Joins: Moose (~Moose@replaced-ip )
2387 [19:27:22] *** Joins: Artox (~Artox@replaced-ip )
2388 [19:27:51] *** Joins: chip__ (~chip@replaced-ip )
2389 [19:27:56] *** Joins: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip )
2390 [19:28:43] *** Quits: chip_ (~chip@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2391 [19:29:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1721
2392 [19:29:40] *** Joins: solarnetone (~scott@replaced-ip )
2393 [19:29:42] *** Quits: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2394 [19:30:11] *** Joins: aoues7 (~aoues7@replaced-ip )
2395 [19:31:01] *** Quits: devtea (~tdreyer1@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2396 [19:32:08] *** Quits: aoues7 (~aoues7@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
2397 [19:32:23] *** Joins: uNmowed|2 (~Mayu@replaced-ip )
2398 [19:32:46] *** Quits: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2399 [19:32:55] *** Quits: scde (~scde@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2400 [19:32:57] *** Quits: m___ (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2401 [19:33:18] *** Joins: scde (~scde@replaced-ip )
2402 [19:33:56] *** Joins: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip )
2403 [19:34:09] *** Joins: scde_ (~scde@replaced-ip )
2404 [19:34:15] *** Joins: ipuu (~ipuu@replaced-ip )
2405 [19:34:20] *** Quits: uNmowed (~Mayu@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2406 [19:34:29] *** Quits: scde_ (~scde@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2407 [19:34:46] *** Quits: kupi (uid212005@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
2408 [19:35:18] *** Quits: scde (~scde@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2409 [19:35:35] *** Quits: dadinn (~DADINN@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2410 [19:35:38] *** Joins: scde (~scde@replaced-ip )
2411 [19:35:44] *** Joins: pie3 (~pieee@replaced-ip )
2412 [19:36:25] *** Joins: bemawi (~bemawi@replaced-ip )
2413 [19:36:40] *** Joins: thunderrd (~thunderrd@replaced-ip )
2414 [19:37:42] *** Joins: pacha (~user@replaced-ip )
2415 [19:40:41] *** Joins: don_stf (~don_stf@replaced-ip )
2416 [19:41:04] *** Quits: teclo- (42@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2417 [19:41:10] *** Quits: BenderRodriguez (~Foxhoundz@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
2418 [19:41:15] *** Joins: teclo-_ (42@replaced-ip )
2419 [19:41:19] *** Quits: GrimKriegor (~GrimKrieg@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2420 [19:42:12] *** Joins: m_ (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2421 [19:44:26] *** Joins: Manis (~Manis@replaced-ip )
2422 [19:44:37] *** Joins: manjaroCinnamon1 (~Manjarous@replaced-ip )
2423 [19:44:38] *** Joins: WoodLeg (~WoodLeg@replaced-ip )
2424 [19:45:55] *** Joins: colinjmatt (~colinjmat@replaced-ip )
2425 [19:46:29] *** Joins: GrimKriegor (~GrimKrieg@replaced-ip )
2426 [19:46:44] *** Quits: ipuu (~ipuu@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2427 [19:47:40] <m_> [18:59:57] <discovered> I don't think KDE will have anything new until 6.x . I think you're right, maybe i better concentrate on the stability of the system and not use the very latest bleeding edge .
2428 [19:49:14] *** Quits: Orbitrix (~Huevos@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2429 [19:49:39] *** Joins: Vizva (~Vizva@replaced-ip )
2430 [19:50:21] *** Quits: mibo (~mibo@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
2431 [19:51:49] *** Quits: Tom-_ (~tomg@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2432 [19:52:18] <Manis> Hi. Is anyone running Debian on a Raspberry Pi 3?
2433 [19:52:25] *** Joins: Tom-_ (~tomg@replaced-ip )
2434 [19:52:25] *** Joins: Intel4bite (Intel4bite@replaced-ip )
2435 [19:52:44] <merimel> it's raspbian on rpi
2436 [19:53:25] <Manis> No I mean real Debian, not the hack they've created.
2437 [19:54:49] <merimel> i thought it'a a same thing, just with firmwares
2438 [19:54:53] <merimel> for rpi
2439 [19:55:05] *** Quits: m_ (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)
2440 [19:55:41] <Manis> Well then Ubuntu is also the same thing, just different packages
2441 [19:56:27] <merimel> ubuntu has different release cycle, codenames
2442 [19:56:31] *** Joins: m_ (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2443 [19:56:39] *** Joins: Delta-One (~zero@replaced-ip )
2444 [19:56:42] <merimel> raspbian sticks to debian naming
2445 [19:57:09] *** Quits: teclo-_ (42@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
2446 [19:57:12] <Manis> it does, but releases are not the same. Afaik they're still on Jessie
2447 [19:57:51] *** Joins: teclo- (42@replaced-ip )
2448 [19:58:05] <Manis> Also they use their patched kernel
2449 [19:58:22] <merimel> replaced-url
2450 [19:59:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1727
2451 [19:59:00] *** Joins: well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip )
2452 [19:59:11] *** Joins: prasket (~prasket@replaced-ip )
2453 [20:00:53] *** Joins: prasket_ (~prasket@replaced-ip )
2454 [20:01:39] *** Joins: JethroTux (~JethroTux@replaced-ip )
2455 [20:01:42] *** Joins: rly (91816adf@replaced-ip )
2456 [20:02:48] <rly> Which display manager can remember the session type of the user?
2457 [20:03:15] <nkuttler> rly: almost all of them?
2458 [20:03:23] <nkuttler> xdm doesn't..
2459 [20:03:26] <rly> nkuttler: then why do none currently work?
2460 [20:03:38] <rly> nkuttler: sddm doesn't, slim doesn't, lightdm, doesn't.
2461 [20:03:49] *** Quits: prasket (~prasket@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2462 [20:03:55] *** Joins: Nnavd (~Nnavd@replaced-ip )
2463 [20:03:58] <nkuttler> then pick one that does.. like gdm, kdm..
2464 [20:04:01] <rly> nkuttler: I am like "WTF have they done?!".
2465 [20:04:07] *** Quits: kaboutur (~kaboutur@replaced-ip ) (Quit: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=10M &)
2466 [20:04:34] <rly> nkuttler: the KDE people recommend SDDM.
2467 [20:04:52] <nkuttler> well, apparently it doesn't do what you want..
2468 [20:04:55] <rly> nkuttler: I'd like to see the distribution to not distribute sddm in the first place if it doesn't work.
2469 [20:04:55] *** Joins: prasket__ (~prasket@replaced-ip )
2470 [20:05:23] *** Quits: Hunterkll (~Hunterkll@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2471 [20:05:34] <rly> nkuttler: don't you mean gdm3?
2472 [20:05:35] <teraflops> rly: not doing what you want != it doesnt work
2473 [20:05:59] <rly> teraflops: going against all previous defined behavior = doesn't work.
2474 [20:06:07] *** Quits: prasket__ (~prasket@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2475 [20:06:18] <nkuttler> rly: nonsense, you just picked the wrong tool
2476 [20:06:23] *** Joins: prasket__ (~prasket@replaced-ip )
2477 [20:06:30] <rly> nkuttler: I upgraded and it stopped working.
2478 [20:06:38] <nkuttler> rly: file a bug report
2479 [20:06:52] <rly> nkuttler: why would I? There were about 10 things I had to fix.
2480 [20:07:02] <rly> nkuttler: it's not like there are zero bugs left.
2481 [20:07:10] *** Quits: orphean_ (~Orphean@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2482 [20:07:11] <teraflops> rly: if it should do what you want but it doesnt, go file a bug
2483 [20:07:25] *** Quits: prasket_ (~prasket@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2484 [20:07:49] <rly> nkuttler: anyway, thanks for your answer. I doubt it will work, but if I am not back in 30 minutes consider this a thank you.
2485 [20:08:44] <teraflops> anyway "going against all previous defined behavior = doesn't work." is not accurate at all
2486 [20:08:49] *** Quits: saptech (~saptech@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2487 [20:09:34] <rly> teraflops: let's put it differently. If anyone would bring sddm to market, it would be a market failure.
2488 [20:09:35] *** Joins: bluenemo (~bluenemo@replaced-ip )
2489 [20:09:59] *** Parts: moldy (~rene@replaced-ip )
2490 [20:10:02] <rly> teraflops: it doesn't have the features existing solutions have and it doesn't do anything better.
2491 [20:10:05] *** Joins: id4rk_ (~id4rk@replaced-ip )
2492 [20:10:06] <nkuttler> rly: do you have a support question we can help you with?
2493 [20:10:12] <teraflops> …
2494 [20:10:29] *** Joins: knstn (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
2495 [20:10:48] *** Joins: orglee_ (~sebastian@replaced-ip )
2496 [20:10:54] *** Quits: Moose (~Moose@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2497 [20:10:57] <teraflops> rly: ok, but it's just this is not the right place for ranting about sddm
2498 [20:11:22] *** Joins: Moose (~Moose@replaced-ip )
2499 [20:11:52] <rly> teraflops: ok, then consider this user feedback in that a *stable* release upgrade didn't work (the whole Internet is full of reports, btw.). Some of the issues I encountered were even years old.
2500 [20:12:04] <BluesKaj> rly, join #systemd chat
2501 [20:12:36] <teraflops> lol why systemd?
2502 [20:12:48] <teraflops> oh well it's sunday…
2503 [20:12:50] <rly> BluesKaj: Debian developers decided to ship systemd.
2504 [20:12:56] *** Quits: id4rk (~id4rk@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2505 [20:12:57] * teraflops bails
2506 [20:13:32] <BluesKaj> sddm problems might get some attention there
2507 [20:13:46] <rly> BluesKaj: how can I convince you to stop speaking about topics you don't understand?
2508 [20:13:59] <abrotman> BluesKaj: please just stop
2509 [20:14:08] *** Quits: scde (~scde@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2510 [20:14:10] *** Quits: orglee (~sebastian@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2511 [20:14:21] *** Joins: sumyunseal (~sumyunsea@replaced-ip )
2512 [20:14:32] *** Quits: dboune (~dboune@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ...)
2513 [20:14:34] *** Joins: saptech (~saptech@replaced-ip )
2514 [20:14:35] <BluesKaj> oh my finally a "please"
2515 [20:14:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o abrotman
2516 [20:14:42] *** abrotman sets mode: +q *!*@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/blueskaj
2517 [20:14:42] *** abrotman sets mode: -o abrotman
2518 [20:14:51] <abrotman> BluesKaj: Seriously, just stop. You're not helping
2519 [20:15:00] <rly> For what it's worth, systemd indeed was broken in various horrible ways during the upgrade, but I fixed it and it now works with less warnings then before. Boot time was multiplied by two, though.
2520 [20:15:08] *** Quits: loader (~loader@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2521 [20:15:30] *** Quits: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2522 [20:15:30] *** Joins: gm152 (~ridout@replaced-ip )
2523 [20:15:38] <rly> Debian 8 vs 9, 9 is definitely sluggish.
2524 [20:16:21] <teraflops> rly: if you have an issue with your boot time, describe it in detail and maybe we can help you
2525 [20:16:25] *** RalphBa|away is now known as RalphBa
2526 [20:16:50] <rly> teraflops: it's probably faster if I do systemd-analyze myself, but I'd rather have seen that this was tested *before* release.
2527 [20:16:50] *** Joins: scde (~scde@replaced-ip )
2528 [20:16:52] *** Joins: prasket_ (~prasket@replaced-ip )
2529 [20:16:55] *** Joins: patterson (~patterson@replaced-ip )
2530 [20:17:08] <teraflops> rly: youre still in rant mode…
2531 [20:17:16] *** Quits: sim590 (~sim590@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2532 [20:17:30] <rly> teraflops: do you consider negative feedback to be useless?
2533 [20:17:37] *** Quits: afuentes (~kusanagi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2534 [20:17:38] <rly> teraflops: because that's where we disagree.
2535 [20:17:55] *** Joins: afuentes (~kusanagi@replaced-ip )
2536 [20:18:00] <teraflops> rly: youre not proving anything, youre just ranting
2537 [20:18:24] <rly> teraflops: I am an expert Debian user. If it doesn't work, someone somewhere made a mistake.
2538 [20:18:38] <abrotman> FLW
2539 [20:18:41] *** Quits: gm152 (~ridout@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2540 [20:18:45] *** Joins: Qas (~Qas@replaced-ip )
2541 [20:18:48] <teraflops> but, it's ok, not my business
2542 [20:18:49] <rly> teraflops: I would never upgrade a corporate system, btw.
2543 [20:18:49] *** Quits: Qas (~Qas@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2544 [20:19:08] <rly> teraflops: replace, yes. Upgrade scripts never work.
2545 [20:19:23] <abrotman> that's a lie
2546 [20:19:23] <rly> (At least, not the ones written by the Debian organisation.)
2547 [20:19:34] *** Quits: prasket__ (~prasket@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2548 [20:19:42] <rly> abrotman: I have never seen any Debian upgrade work and I have done about 10 by hand or so.
2549 [20:19:43] *** Quits: b (~coffee@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
2550 [20:19:46] <abrotman> rly: you're doing something wrong, guaranteed. I've had systems (successfully) go through five stable versions
2551 [20:19:49] <teraflops> rly: I dont care, do not take it as an offense, it's just I do not care
2552 [20:19:50] <rly> abrotman: they only work on servers.
2553 [20:19:55] <abrotman> rly: again, that's a lie
2554 [20:20:17] <abrotman> rly: so, if you want us to help you with some issue, give us the information, otherwise, take the ranting elsewhere
2555 [20:20:20] <rly> abrotman: I would be willing to declare that under oath.
2556 [20:20:23] <abrotman> (file bugs, help fix packages)
2557 [20:20:32] <abrotman> rly: great, you'd be lying .. Congratulations
2558 [20:20:57] <rly> abrotman: how can you claim that Debian has no bugs in the upgrade scripts of 50000 packages?
2559 [20:21:13] <abrotman> I didn't say that, you said it *never* works. That's not true
2560 [20:21:20] <rly> abrotman: it has never worked for me.
2561 [20:21:27] *** Quits: adoua (~adoua@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2562 [20:21:28] *** Quits: Manis (~Manis@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2563 [20:21:30] <rly> abrotman: I am sure that it works on corporate servers.
2564 [20:21:33] <abrotman> As I said above .. sounds like a PEBKAC
2565 [20:21:48] <rly> abrotman: no, it's because I have packages installed that are tested less.
2566 [20:21:49] <abrotman> I've done dist-upgrades on laptops, desktops, servers ..
2567 [20:21:57] <abrotman> rly: sure, whatever excuse you'd like to make
2568 [20:22:01] <rly> abrotman: and so have I. On servers it works, sure.
2569 [20:22:13] <abrotman> rly: again, either help fix the packages or file bugs ..
2570 [20:22:16] *** Quits: scde (~scde@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2571 [20:22:16] <teraflops> if you have issues that your expertise cannot fix feel free to describe them in detail so we can try to help
2572 [20:22:28] *** Joins: devtea (~tdreyer1@replaced-ip )
2573 [20:22:33] <abrotman> "I have a vague problem that you're all too stupid to help me with!!!"
2574 [20:22:34] *** Quits: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2575 [20:22:40] *** Joins: scde (~scde@replaced-ip )
2576 [20:22:45] *** Joins: AlexLikeRock (~AlexLikeR@replaced-ip )
2577 [20:22:50] <rly> teraflops: there are only issues that I don't want to solve. Not issues I cannot solve.
2578 [20:23:08] *** Parts: DoctorDick (~Doc@replaced-ip )
2579 [20:23:10] <abrotman> hah
2580 [20:23:22] <rly> teraflops: the only reason my upgrades fail is because there is no continuous integration infrastructure for upgrades.
2581 [20:23:30] <abrotman> rly: so why are you wasting our time .. go fix your problems
2582 [20:23:39] *** Quits: bipul (~bipul@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2583 [20:23:44] <rly> abrotman: you could just say "thanks for the feedback".
2584 [20:23:50] <teraflops> rly: then this is not the right place for you
2585 [20:23:53] <rly> abrotman: and then add a number to the number of unhappy users.
2586 [20:23:57] <abrotman> rly: most of us are not DDs
2587 [20:24:05] <rly> abrotman: and then continue with the rest of your life.
2588 [20:24:09] <abrotman> rly: again, file bugs or fix packages. Ranting in #debian won't help anyone
2589 [20:24:12] *** Quits: Lal_ (uid175029@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
2590 [20:24:15] <abrotman> as an "expert", you should know that
2591 [20:24:18] *** Quits: prasket_ (~prasket@replaced-ip ) (Quit: exit)
2592 [20:24:21] <teraflops> rly: thanks for the feedback
2593 [20:24:24] <teraflops> !next
2594 [20:24:24] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
2595 [20:24:29] <rly> \o/
2596 [20:24:43] *** Joins: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip )
2597 [20:25:09] *** Joins: Hunterkll (~Hunterkll@replaced-ip )
2598 [20:26:31] *** Joins: gm152 (~ridout@replaced-ip )
2599 [20:27:13] *** Quits: discovered (~discovere@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2600 [20:27:48] *** Joins: ee1 (~user@replaced-ip )
2601 [20:29:04] *** Quits: rly (91816adf@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2602 [20:29:12] <ee1> Hi. I'm running virt-manager as interface for handing my virtual machines but I have some problems running VPN with it. If I run openvpn on the host, i can't connect to internet on the WM. I'm running NAT on the vmware.
2603 [20:29:56] <jmcnaught> ee1: virt-manager + vmware?
2604 [20:30:33] *** Quits: Vizva (~Vizva@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2605 [20:31:31] *** Quits: AlexLikeRock (~AlexLikeR@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2606 [20:31:36] *** Joins: tier (~tier@replaced-ip )
2607 [20:32:38] *** Quits: scde (~scde@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2608 [20:32:59] *** Quits: galex-713_ (~galex-713@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2609 [20:33:23] *** Joins: galex-713_ (~galex-713@replaced-ip )
2610 [20:33:46] <teraflops> ee1: hmm may I ask what's the point of using openvpn server on the host (doing NAT) and the client on a VM on the same machine?
2611 [20:33:47] *** Joins: littlekitty_ (uid234006@replaced-ip )
2612 [20:34:31] <teraflops> I mean youre on the same machine what's the point of using a tunnel?
2613 [20:34:44] *** Joins: ConnS (~c0nd0r@replaced-ip )
2614 [20:34:59] *** Quits: galex-713_ (~galex-713@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2615 [20:35:46] *** Joins: galex-713_ (~galex-713@replaced-ip )
2616 [20:36:00] *** id4rk_ is now known as id4rk
2617 [20:36:16] *** Joins: aguitel (~aguitel@replaced-ip )
2618 [20:36:17] *** Joins: err404 (~err404@replaced-ip )
2619 [20:36:59] *** Quits: galex-713_ (~galex-713@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2620 [20:38:06] *** Joins: n_blownapart (~john@replaced-ip )
2621 [20:39:01] *** Joins: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip )
2622 [20:39:48] *** Joins: john__ (~john@replaced-ip )
2623 [20:40:06] <littlekitty_> sorry to ask but what exactly is a tunnel?
2624 [20:40:12] <littlekitty_> a ssh connection?
2625 [20:40:23] *** Quits: john__ (~john@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
2626 [20:40:39] *** Joins: john__ (~john@replaced-ip )
2627 [20:41:05] *** Quits: john__ (~john@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
2628 [20:41:23] *** Joins: john__ (~john@replaced-ip )
2629 [20:41:45] *** Joins: ChunkzZ (uid233645@replaced-ip )
2630 [20:42:02] *** Joins: dpyro (~dpyro@replaced-ip )
2631 [20:42:19] *** Joins: hualet (~hualet@replaced-ip )
2632 [20:42:59] <teraflops> you can make ssh tunnels
2633 [20:43:19] *** Joins: loptr (~loptr@replaced-ip )
2634 [20:43:20] *** Quits: th0r (~th0r@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2635 [20:43:34] <teraflops> littlekitty_: replaced-url
2636 [20:43:50] *** Joins: sim590 (~sim590@replaced-ip )
2637 [20:43:52] *** Quits: n_blownapart (~john@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2638 [20:44:35] *** Quits: bitSt0rm (~AndChat11@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Bye)
2639 [20:45:15] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o abrotman
2640 [20:45:15] *** abrotman sets mode: -q *!*@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/blueskaj
2641 [20:45:15] *** abrotman sets mode: -o abrotman
2642 [20:45:22] *** Joins: standerwick (~standerwi@replaced-ip )
2643 [20:45:35] <CoderEurope> littlekitty_, you can use this : replaced-url
2644 [20:45:53] *** Quits: saptech (~saptech@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2645 [20:45:55] *** john__ is now known as n_blownapart
2646 [20:46:01] *** Joins: bitSt0rm (~manjana@replaced-ip )
2647 [20:46:34] *** Quits: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2648 [20:46:38] *** Joins: saptech (~saptech@replaced-ip )
2649 [20:46:42] <teraflops> ,v iodine
2650 [20:46:43] <judd> Package: iodine on amd64 -- wheezy-security: 0.6.0~rc1-12+deb7u1; wheezy: 0.6.0~rc1-12+deb7u1; jessie: 0.7.0-3; sid: 0.7.0-7; buster: 0.7.0-7; stretch: 0.7.0-7
2651 [20:46:47] *** Quits: dpyro (~dpyro@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2652 [20:46:57] *** Quits: hualet (~hualet@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2653 [20:47:16] *** Quits: bitSt0rm (~manjana@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2654 [20:47:36] *** Joins: bitSt0rm (~manjana@replaced-ip )
2655 [20:47:58] *** Joins: shannara (~Stanislas@replaced-ip )
2656 [20:49:30] <teraflops> hmm, I do iodine for DNS tunneling, never heard of sshuttle
2657 [20:49:31] <littlekitty_> so its a protocol foreign to all the nodes but then again it's self-explaining to them so they can use it as long as there is a connection?
2658 [20:49:55] *** Quits: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2659 [20:50:08] <teraflops> littlekitty_: I think the wkipedia entry gives a good description
2660 [20:50:18] *** Joins: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip )
2661 [20:50:25] <aguitel> anyway to install flash in stretch ?
2662 [20:50:38] <aguitel> with debian way
2663 [20:51:56] <jmcnaught> aguitel: currently there is not. The best way to handle this is to take it as a sign that Flash should be dead and stop using it. But if you really need flash, you can download the tarball from adobe.com and put the .so file in ~/.mozilla/plugins
2664 [20:52:38] <merimel> aguitel: install browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash and pepperflashplugin-nonfree
2665 [20:52:40] <littlekitty_> another page says port forwarding and tunneling are synonyms..
2666 [20:52:49] *** Joins: mar77i_ (~mar77i@replaced-ip )
2667 [20:53:04] <jmcnaught> ,v pepperflashplugin-nonfree
2668 [20:53:05] <judd> Package: pepperflashplugin-nonfree on amd64 -- wheezy-backports/contrib: 1.4~bpo60+1; jessie/contrib: 1.8.1+deb8u1; sid/contrib: 1.8.3+nmu1; buster/contrib: 1.8.3+nmu1
2669 [20:53:18] <jmcnaught> merimel: pepperflashplugin-nonfree is not in stretch
2670 [20:53:32] *** Joins: e64 (~e14@replaced-ip )
2671 [20:53:53] <jmcnaught> maybe installing the jessie version is better? flash's days are numbered either way
2672 [20:54:13] *** Quits: chip__ (~chip@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2673 [20:54:22] <aguitel> jmcnaught, merimel ok
2674 [20:54:23] <merimel> yes, jessie version is worth of try
2675 [20:54:43] *** Quits: mar77i (~mar77i@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2676 [20:54:46] <merimel> it's just scrits for downloading
2677 [20:54:50] *** Joins: chip__ (~chip@replaced-ip )
2678 [20:55:02] <merimel> or very simple programms
2679 [20:55:32] *** Joins: buffffal00 (~buffal0@replaced-ip )
2680 [20:55:43] *** Joins: mibo (~mibo@replaced-ip )
2681 [20:56:30] *** Joins: QualityAddict (~QualityAd@replaced-ip )
2682 [20:56:54] *** QualityAddict is now known as Guest8031
2683 [20:57:24] *** Quits: buffal0 (~buffal0@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2684 [20:57:57] *** Quits: pitelpan (~panagioti@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2685 [20:58:20] *** Joins: default (~default@replaced-ip )
2686 [20:58:41] *** Quits: valdyn (~valdyn@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2687 [20:58:48] *** Joins: kupi (uid212005@replaced-ip )
2688 [20:59:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1733
2689 [20:59:02] *** Quits: nertaxos (~nertaxos@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2690 [20:59:16] *** Joins: discovered (~discovere@replaced-ip )
2691 [20:59:17] *** Joins: scde_ (~scde@replaced-ip )
2692 [20:59:41] *** Quits: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2693 [21:01:37] *** Quits: default (~default@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2694 [21:02:45] *** Joins: pitelpan (~panagioti@replaced-ip )
2695 [21:02:45] *** Quits: pitelpan (~panagioti@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
2696 [21:02:45] *** Joins: pitelpan (~panagioti@replaced-ip )
2697 [21:03:04] *** Joins: beingbrown (~beingbrow@replaced-ip )
2698 [21:03:18] *** Joins: swaechter (swaechter@replaced-ip )
2699 [21:03:21] *** Joins: default__ (~default@replaced-ip )
2700 [21:05:01] *** Quits: chip__ (~chip@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2701 [21:05:48] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2702 [21:06:45] <Nemo_bis> Retry: How to do usb_modeswitch on rt2500 usb wifi stick (replaced-url
2703 [21:07:29] *** Quits: scde_ (~scde@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2704 [21:07:55] <default__> Should I upgrade from stable to Buster, or to testing?
2705 [21:08:01] *** Joins: chip__ (~chip@replaced-ip )
2706 [21:08:16] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip )
2707 [21:08:32] *** Quits: dr_light (~jtharkey@replaced-ip ) (Quit: dr_light)
2708 [21:08:48] *** Quits: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2709 [21:09:06] *** Joins: martastain (~martastai@replaced-ip )
2710 [21:09:14] *** Joins: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip )
2711 [21:09:18] *** Joins: Ezii (~Ezii@replaced-ip )
2712 [21:09:29] *** Quits: bielewelt (~bielewelt@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
2713 [21:09:50] *** Quits: rick8024 (~andreas@replaced-ip ) (Quit: bye...)
2714 [21:10:17] <jmcnaught> default__: what is the purpose of upgrading?
2715 [21:10:24] *** Joins: th0r (~th0r@replaced-ip )
2716 [21:10:28] *** Quits: JethroTux (~JethroTux@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2717 [21:10:30] *** Joins: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip )
2718 [21:11:16] *** Quits: emx (~bemx@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2719 [21:11:20] *** Quits: Ezii (~Ezii@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
2720 [21:11:44] <merimel> newer gui applications like firefox, steam, mpv, kde, etc — if it's home desktop
2721 [21:11:46] <default__> Newer packages.
2722 [21:11:52] <jmcnaught> default__: buster and testing are the same thing, and you should always use release codenames in your sources.list. Note however that because stable was just released there aren't much newer versions of things yet
2723 [21:12:04] *** Quits: th0r (~th0r@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2724 [21:12:12] <jmcnaught> also the early part of testing can be turbulent as big changes get pushed through
2725 [21:12:18] <jmcnaught> default__: which packages?
2726 [21:12:22] *** Joins: th0r (~th0r@replaced-ip )
2727 [21:12:48] *** Joins: ltem (~ltem@replaced-ip )
2728 [21:13:02] <teraflops> I think stable is a safer choice right now
2729 [21:13:05] <default__> Not any particular packages.
2730 [21:13:27] <jmcnaught> default__: Debian testing isn't just a release with newer packages, it's a development branch where bugs are found and fixed. Testing also does not get security support, so is the last to get security fixes
2731 [21:13:46] *** Quits: dave0x6d (uid190567@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
2732 [21:13:58] *** Joins: scde_ (~scde@replaced-ip )
2733 [21:14:19] <default__> And so is it safer to go Buster until about 1 month after it is released, then again upgrade to whatever the next stable will be then?
2734 [21:14:25] *** Quits: Antares (~Antares@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2735 [21:14:40] *** Quits: dontknow (~dontknow@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2736 [21:14:55] <jmcnaught> default__: no, it is safer to stick with stable until buster becomes stable, and then upgrade
2737 [21:15:12] <merimel> debian is very strage with all this stable/testing thing — and really confusing for new users
2738 [21:15:23] <teraflops> default__: notice dist-upgrade is a one way ticket
2739 [21:15:29] <jmcnaught> it's not that confusing for users that read about it
2740 [21:15:46] <default__> teraflops: Right.
2741 [21:16:08] *** Quits: dayten (~gnoid@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2742 [21:16:11] *** Joins: netx (~netx@replaced-ip )
2743 [21:16:16] <jmcnaught> default__: also there is replaced-url
2744 [21:16:49] <default__> jmcnaught: You can still read about it and then still not know what to do.
2745 [21:17:26] <default__> jmcnaught: Yeah, I know about backports. Thanks.
2746 [21:17:28] <teraflops> default__: if you dont know what to do, what about doing nothing? :P
2747 [21:17:43] <default__> teraflops: :)
2748 [21:18:03] <merimel> if you have time or another hdd, you can try it in virtual machine or separate install
2749 [21:18:10] <jmcnaught> default__: if you don't know if you should run testing, and just want it for newer packages but not any particular ones…
2750 [21:18:51] <teraflops> default__: it's hard to give advice on such situation
2751 [21:19:04] <default__> jmcnaught: Yeah, I could install 2 versions, one on each machine. But then that's twice the system maintenance.
2752 [21:19:17] *** Joins: user__ (~user@replaced-ip )
2753 [21:19:48] <jmcnaught> default__: ?
2754 [21:19:51] <merimel> what softwere you interested in most ?
2755 [21:20:15] <jmcnaught> default__: oh you are responding to something someone else said
2756 [21:20:37] *** Quits: luckman212 (~luckman21@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2757 [21:20:40] *** Quits: ConCarne (~Anonymous@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2758 [21:21:06] *** Joins: emx (~bemx@replaced-ip )
2759 [21:21:08] <default__> Well, Cinnamon desktop. And GnuCash is a must.
2760 [21:21:24] *** Quits: don_stf (~don_stf@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2761 [21:21:35] *** Quits: buffffal00 (~buffal0@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2762 [21:22:09] *** Joins: jackNemrod_ (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
2763 [21:22:28] *** Quits: remo1 (~user@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2764 [21:22:42] <teraflops> I'd run stable, if I feel the need of newer versions I'd rely on backports, if such need becomes an addiction you'd always can switch to testing
2765 [21:23:07] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2766 [21:23:08] *** jackNemrod_ is now known as jackNemrod
2767 [21:23:40] <default__> Well, maybe I'll just stay with stable for a while. As you said,I can always upgrade later.
2768 [21:24:25] *** Quits: na1rb_ (~nairb@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2769 [21:24:27] <jmcnaught> default__: this wiki page has some links to some ways to get newer software safely running on a Debian stable system: replaced-url
2770 [21:24:42] *** Joins: em|t (~dnas@replaced-ip )
2771 [21:25:04] *** Joins: robotroll (~robotroll@replaced-ip )
2772 [21:25:21] *** Quits: hele (~hele@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2773 [21:25:35] *** Quits: sumyunseal (~sumyunsea@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2774 [21:25:37] <default__> jmcnaught: Okay, thanks. I'll go check it out now.
2775 [21:26:08] *** Joins: n4dir (~user@replaced-ip )
2776 [21:26:28] *** Quits: shad0w (~matthew@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2777 [21:27:49] *** Quits: devtea (~tdreyer1@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2778 [21:27:53] <jmcnaught> default__: GnuCash is available as a flatpak app
2779 [21:29:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1727
2780 [21:29:02] *** Joins: dr_light (~jtharkey@replaced-ip )
2781 [21:29:04] *** Quits: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2782 [21:29:31] <default__> Well, I don't know anything about flatpak or snappy or whatever the other one is. Never used them.
2783 [21:29:33] *** Joins: luckman212 (~luckman21@replaced-ip )
2784 [21:29:57] *** Quits: antgel (~topdog@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2785 [21:30:12] *** Quits: Ericounet (~Eric@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2786 [21:30:22] *** Joins: noobineer (~qwerty@replaced-ip )
2787 [21:30:26] *** Quits: user2468 (~user2468@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2788 [21:30:48] <jmcnaught> default__: replaced-url
2789 [21:30:56] *** Joins: dpyro (~dpyro@replaced-ip )
2790 [21:31:18] <forcerecon> so whats the word debian?
2791 [21:31:46] <default__> jmcnaught: are they managed by apt, or totally independent of it?
2792 [21:31:49] *** Quits: semyon (~semyon@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2793 [21:32:15] *** Quits: robotroll (~robotroll@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2794 [21:32:15] *** Joins: devtea (~tdreyer1@replaced-ip )
2795 [21:32:19] <forcerecon> someone explain backports
2796 [21:32:22] *** Quits: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2797 [21:32:46] <jmcnaught> default__: totally independent. Users can also install flatpaks (just for themselves)
2798 [21:32:57] *** Quits: chip__ (~chip@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2799 [21:32:59] *** Joins: nertaxos (~nertaxos@replaced-ip )
2800 [21:33:01] *** Quits: m8 (~m8@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2801 [21:33:14] *** Joins: JethroTux (~JethroTux@replaced-ip )
2802 [21:33:18] <jmcnaught> forcerecon: it explains them here: replaced-url
2803 [21:33:29] <default__> jmcnaught: Okay, I'll read up on that, too. Thanks again.
2804 [21:33:46] *** Parts: LorD_n1c0w (~rhodan@replaced-ip )
2805 [21:33:51] <merimel> it's like macOS or Windows stores
2806 [21:34:43] <jmcnaught> default__: i've been using flatpak to try it out, seems to work okay. Let me know if you want to try installing GnuCash with it
2807 [21:34:54] *** Joins: valdyn (~valdyn@replaced-ip )
2808 [21:35:41] *** Joins: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip )
2809 [21:35:54] <default__> jmcnaught: Okay. Not right now, though. Got too much to to do today, on my "day off".
2810 [21:36:15] <jmcnaught> default__: heh but you almost upgraded to testing :P
2811 [21:36:42] <default__> Not right now, but I was thinking about it.
2812 [21:37:09] *** Joins: freenoodle (~jr@replaced-ip )
2813 [21:37:30] *** Quits: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2814 [21:38:46] *** Joins: mvensky (~mvensky@replaced-ip )
2815 [21:39:21] <jmcnaught> default__: well once you have the flatpak Debian package installed you can run as a non-root user: "flatpak remote-add --user --if-not-exists flathub replaced-url
2816 [21:40:01] *** Quits: th0r (~th0r@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2817 [21:40:01] *** Quits: freenoodle (~jr@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2818 [21:40:08] *** Joins: baptist (~baptsk@replaced-ip )
2819 [21:40:16] <jmcnaught> default__: if you use gnome-software then you probably also want the Debian package gnome-software-plugin-flatpak which at the very least is helpful for upgrading flatpaks
2820 [21:40:24] *** Joins: freenoodle (~jr@replaced-ip )
2821 [21:41:21] *** Quits: Pjusur (~Pjusur@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2822 [21:41:35] *** Joins: CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@replaced-ip )
2823 [21:41:42] *** Quits: mvensky (~mvensky@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2824 [21:41:47] <default__> jmcnaught: I'm using Cinnamon, so gnome-software-plugin-flatpak might not work here.
2825 [21:41:58] *** Quits: dTal (~dtal@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2826 [21:42:05] <jmcnaught> default__: using cinnamon would not prevent you from using gnome-software
2827 [21:42:05] *** Joins: mvensky (~mvensky@replaced-ip )
2828 [21:42:50] *** Joins: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip )
2829 [21:42:59] <default__> jmcnaught: Is Cinnamon then just a riced version of Gnome?
2830 [21:43:08] *** Joins: hualet (~hualet@replaced-ip )
2831 [21:43:16] *** Quits: beingbrown (~beingbrow@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2832 [21:43:31] <forcerecon> jmcnaught: thanks reading now
2833 [21:43:56] <jmcnaught> default__: i think so, i've never used it. But you can run KDE programs in GNOME, GNOME programs in xfce4 etc
2834 [21:44:23] *** Quits: Haudegen (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2835 [21:44:43] *** Quits: knstn (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: knstn)
2836 [21:44:56] *** Quits: freenoodle (~jr@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2837 [21:44:57] <default__> jmcnaught: Hmmm . . . didn't know that. Hey, they should pay you for all the work you do here! :)
2838 [21:45:04] *** Joins: Valdir (~Valdir@replaced-ip )
2839 [21:45:05] *** Quits: HasanAtizaza (~hasan@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2840 [21:45:19] *** Quits: pugfantus (~pugfantus@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - ##replaced-url
2841 [21:45:19] *** Quits: rk[ghost] (~rak@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2842 [21:45:55] *** Quits: ValdirMarcos (~Valdir@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2843 [21:46:02] <jmcnaught> default__: just trying to contibute back a little ☺
2844 [21:46:11] *** Joins: dTal (~dtal@replaced-ip )
2845 [21:46:38] <default__> jmcnaught: Well thanks. We appreciate!
2846 [21:47:37] *** Quits: rypervenche (~rypervenc@replaced-ip ) (Quit: brb)
2847 [21:47:46] *** Quits: JethroTux (~JethroTux@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2848 [21:47:58] *** Joins: Kopfstein (~B@replaced-ip )
2849 [21:48:16] *** Quits: hualet (~hualet@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2850 [21:48:17] *** Quits: ConnS (~c0nd0r@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2851 [21:49:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1719
2852 [21:49:01] *** Quits: scde_ (~scde@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2853 [21:49:25] *** Joins: scde_ (~scde@replaced-ip )
2854 [21:49:29] *** Quits: CarolinaRube (~CarolinaR@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2855 [21:49:30] *** Quits: default__ (~default@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2856 [21:50:25] *** Joins: bielewelt (~bielewelt@replaced-ip )
2857 [21:51:41] *** Joins: rypervenche (~rypervenc@replaced-ip )
2858 [21:51:41] *** Joins: na1rb (~nairb@replaced-ip )
2859 [21:51:47] *** Joins: mirco (~mirco@replaced-ip )
2860 [21:52:03] *** Joins: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
2861 [21:52:41] *** Parts: Nemo_bis (federico@replaced-ip )
2862 [21:53:35] *** Quits: mavhc (~mavhc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2863 [21:53:52] *** Quits: mavhq (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2864 [21:54:36] *** Joins: el_guapo (~el@replaced-ip )
2865 [21:55:36] *** Quits: scde_ (~scde@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2866 [21:55:55] *** Joins: scde_ (~scde@replaced-ip )
2867 [21:56:18] *** Joins: mavhc (~mavhc@replaced-ip )
2868 [21:56:31] *** Quits: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2869 [21:56:45] *** Joins: mavhq (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2870 [21:56:53] *** Joins: Chinesium (~Chinesium@replaced-ip )
2871 [21:56:55] *** Quits: mirco (~mirco@replaced-ip ) (Quit: mirco)
2872 [21:56:56] *** Joins: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip )
2873 [21:57:10] *** Joins: GenteelBen (~GenteelBe@replaced-ip )
2874 [21:57:57] *** Quits: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2875 [21:58:12] <el_guapo> Hi. After a fresh install (expert text install, nothing but xorg and i3wm installed), I couldn't use my keyboard after launching startx (worked fine in the tty). So I added myself to the "input" group, and it now works. Is it normal that my keyboard/mouse wasn't recognized ?
2876 [21:59:51] *** Quits: m_ (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2877 [22:00:01] *** Joins: badargo (~badargo@replaced-ip )
2878 [22:00:15] *** Quits: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2879 [22:00:16] <badargo> Fix window management in winecfg. You will have to modify your wine configuration to disable your Window Manager or Desktop Environment from controlling the Ultima Online Classic window. If this is not disabled, it will result in the game crashing upon attempting to log into a character (not the account.)
2880 [22:00:18] <badargo> do you guys think this could be possibly the reason
2881 [22:00:20] <badargo> my DE is making the game flicker like a rainbow?
2882 [22:00:21] *** Joins: will__ (~birdbolt@replaced-ip )
2883 [22:00:32] *** Joins: KarlOtto (~KarlOtto@replaced-ip )
2884 [22:01:02] <badargo> when i run it it flickers in 20 colors non stop its rly messed up :S
2885 [22:01:21] *** Joins: buffal0 (~buffal0@replaced-ip )
2886 [22:01:43] *** Quits: dr_light (~jtharkey@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2887 [22:02:33] <jmcnaught> !crosspost
2888 [22:02:33] <dpkg> Posting the same question in several places at the same time (IRC channels, news groups, mailing lists, forums) is impolite; your time is NOT more valuable than everyone else's. Your question might be answered elsewhere, meanwhile we are wasting our time doing research for a problem you've already solved. Cross-posting can also make you look like a spammer and get you k:lined. See also <multiple ask> <hurry>.
2889 [22:02:35] *** Quits: will_ (~birdbolt@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2890 [22:02:37] <jmcnaught> badargo: ^^
2891 [22:02:45] *** Quits: mvensky (~mvensky@replaced-ip ) (Quit: mvensky)
2892 [22:03:25] *** Quits: B[]rG (~tuptidup@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2893 [22:04:03] *** Quits: scde_ (~scde@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2894 [22:04:15] <badargo> u mean i cant ask the same questions in different channels to different people when i dont get answers
2895 [22:04:19] <badargo> right
2896 [22:04:23] *** Joins: scde_ (~scde@replaced-ip )
2897 [22:04:27] <badargo> to me thats rly impolite too
2898 [22:04:29] *** Joins: denunciones (~DM@replaced-ip )
2899 [22:04:55] *** Joins: Haudegen (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2900 [22:05:49] <badargo> to sugest i should give up on finding solutions for a stupid reason that is :P
2901 [22:05:54] <jmcnaught> badargo: it's different if time has elapsed, but you asked here 2 minutes after asking on OFTC. You should take a look at replaced-url
2902 [22:05:59] *** Quits: scde_ (~scde@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2903 [22:06:00] <el_guapo> This replaced-url
2904 [22:06:13] <badargo> its a different network
2905 [22:06:20] <badargo> with different users
2906 [22:06:26] <badargo> im just unlucky to find u in both
2907 [22:06:32] *** Joins: pugfantus (~pugfantus@replaced-ip )
2908 [22:06:48] *** Quits: shannara (~Stanislas@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2909 [22:06:59] <jmcnaught> badargo: I am trying to help you learn the way of IRC, take it or leave it.
2910 [22:07:18] <badargo> and no i didnt ask here
2911 [22:07:22] <jmcnaught> el_guapo: does everything work as intended if you use a display manager?
2912 [22:07:28] <badargo> i asked in irc.debianservers.net
2913 [22:07:28] *** Quits: victorqueiroz (~victor@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2914 [22:08:03] *** Quits: buffal0 (~buffal0@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2915 [22:08:03] <badargo> yes i asked here 2 minutes after
2916 [22:08:33] *** Quits: maotm (~mao@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2917 [22:08:40] <jmcnaught> badargo: you don't need to justify it, just take it as a learning opportunity
2918 [22:09:22] *** Quits: Intel4bite (Intel4bite@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2919 [22:09:35] *** Quits: webpigeon (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2920 [22:09:41] <badargo> i think u too should learn to respect the users and at least once try to help them instead of enforcing stupid rules that help nobody and nobody cares about ^^ take it as a learning opportunity too
2921 [22:09:54] *** Quits: colinjmatt (~colinjmat@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Bye for now)
2922 [22:10:02] <badargo> lol u hammering me for asking a question in 2 different networks
2923 [22:10:11] <badargo> u got be trolling me
2924 [22:10:50] <jmcnaught> el_guapo: for example, my user is not in the input group and I can use my keyboard in X. Do you have libpam-systemd installed?
2925 [22:11:11] *** Joins: edju (~edju@replaced-ip )
2926 [22:11:27] <jmcnaught> badargo: you can discuss this with me in #debian-offtopic if you have more to say, otherwise please don't be so noisy in here
2927 [22:11:43] *** Joins: robotroll (~robotroll@replaced-ip )
2928 [22:12:19] <badargo> jmcnaught: my noise is the courtesy to reply to ur msgs and ur open hostility, but it will be my pleasure to ignore them from now on :P
2929 [22:12:30] *** Quits: Esti_Qatzi_ (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2930 [22:12:38] <abrotman> badargo: knock it off, move on
2931 [22:13:05] *** Quits: ee1 (~user@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2932 [22:13:09] *** Joins: nast (~nast@replaced-ip )
2933 [22:13:09] *** Joins: dave0x6d (uid190567@replaced-ip )
2934 [22:15:16] <el_guapo> jmcnaught: libpam-systemd is indeed installed. Let me check about the display manager.
2935 [22:15:40] *** Quits: em|t (~dnas@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2936 [22:15:51] *** Joins: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip )
2937 [22:15:52] *** Quits: robotroll (~robotroll@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2938 [22:15:54] *** Quits: bitSt0rm (~manjana@replaced-ip ) (Quit: )
2939 [22:16:10] *** Joins: bitSt0rm (~manjana@replaced-ip )
2940 [22:16:12] *** Joins: webpigeon (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2941 [22:16:44] <el_guapo> jmcnaught: I'll install lightdm right away, put myself out of the "input" group and see how it goes.
2942 [22:16:57] *** Quits: sleepee (~sleepee@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2943 [22:17:55] <jmcnaught> el_guapo: okay. you should also look for the Xorg.0.log file first in ~/.local/share/xorg and then /var/log if it's not in your $HOME. If you put that log on replaced-url
2944 [22:18:36] *** Joins: needle (~needle@replaced-ip )
2945 [22:18:50] *** Joins: dreamon (~dreamon@replaced-ip )
2946 [22:20:23] *** Joins: Intel4bite (Intel4bite@replaced-ip )
2947 [22:21:24] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2948 [22:21:41] *** guerby_ is now known as guerby
2949 [22:21:53] *** Quits: AJ_Z0 (~AJ_Z0@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2950 [22:22:11] *** Joins: BenderRodriguez (~Foxhoundz@replaced-ip )
2951 [22:22:37] *** Quits: LucaTM (~LucaTM@replaced-ip ) (Quit: To infinity and beyond...)
2952 [22:22:49] *** Joins: _sfiguser (~sfigguser@replaced-ip )
2953 [22:22:53] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip )
2954 [22:23:03] *** Quits: towo` (~towo@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2955 [22:23:35] *** Quits: root-x (~root-x@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2956 [22:24:11] *** Quits: bitSt0rm (~manjana@replaced-ip ) (Quit: )
2957 [22:25:07] *** Joins: root-x (~root-x@replaced-ip )
2958 [22:25:20] *** Quits: mavhq (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2959 [22:25:21] *** Quits: denunciones (~DM@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
2960 [22:25:33] *** Joins: Brigo (~Brigo@replaced-ip )
2961 [22:25:36] *** Quits: Intel4bite (Intel4bite@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2962 [22:25:58] *** Joins: philipballew (~philip@replaced-ip )
2963 [22:26:09] *** Quits: BluesKaj (~Blues@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2964 [22:26:25] *** Quits: baptist (~baptsk@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2965 [22:26:28] *** Joins: mavhq (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2966 [22:26:59] *** Joins: baptist (~baptsk@replaced-ip )
2967 [22:27:11] *** Quits: gre (gre@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
2968 [22:27:32] *** Parts: badargo (~badargo@replaced-ip )
2969 [22:27:34] *** Joins: notswengr (~textual@replaced-ip )
2970 [22:27:59] *** Quits: raid28 (~IceChat9@replaced-ip ) (Quit: -)
2971 [22:28:41] *** Joins: AJ_Z0 (~AJ_Z0@replaced-ip )
2972 [22:29:04] *** Joins: dArK_IcE (~lawl@replaced-ip )
2973 [22:29:19] <edju> running jessie. whenever I open kmail. the console fills with akonadi stuff, and it continues until kmail is closed. replaced-url
2974 [22:29:37] *** Quits: jackNemrod (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2975 [22:30:09] *** Quits: e64 (~e14@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2976 [22:30:34] *** Parts: needle (~needle@replaced-ip )
2977 [22:30:41] <jmcnaught> edju: this happens when you run kmail from a terminal window?
2978 [22:30:52] *** Joins: bitSt0rm (~manjana@replaced-ip )
2979 [22:31:14] *** Joins: th0r (~th0r@replaced-ip )
2980 [22:31:28] *** Quits: bitSt0rm (~manjana@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2981 [22:31:37] <edju> jmcnaught, no. click on the icon. konsole is always open.
2982 [22:31:47] *** Quits: baptist (~baptsk@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2983 [22:32:23] *** Joins: bitSt0rm (~manjana@replaced-ip )
2984 [22:32:51] *** Joins: Esti_Qatzi (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2985 [22:32:51] *** Quits: Esti_Qatzi (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
2986 [22:32:52] *** Joins: Esti_Qatzi (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2987 [22:32:52] *** Joins: baptist (~baptsk@replaced-ip )
2988 [22:33:59] *** Quits: discovered (~discovere@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2989 [22:34:15] <el_guapo> jmcnaught: replaced-url
2990 [22:35:11] <jmcnaught> el_guapo: is this from startx, or a login attempt with lightdm?
2991 [22:35:31] *** Quits: ani00765 (~anon@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2992 [22:36:11] *** Quits: nertaxos (~nertaxos@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2993 [22:36:22] *** Joins: m8 (~m8@replaced-ip )
2994 [22:36:36] *** Joins: nertaxos (~nertaxos@replaced-ip )
2995 [22:39:06] <el_guapo> startx, definitely. it's from an old log.
2996 [22:39:35] *** Quits: kw21 (~kw21@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2997 [22:39:38] <el_guapo> I never use a display manager.
2998 [22:41:05] *** Joins: nertaxos_ (~nertaxos@replaced-ip )
2999 [22:41:09] *** Quits: wildlander (~wildlande@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Saliendo)
3000 [22:41:09] *** Joins: droman (~droman@replaced-ip )
3001 [22:42:04] *** Quits: AlexPortable (uid7568@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
3002 [22:42:24] *** Joins: B[]rG (~tuptidup@replaced-ip )
3003 [22:42:27] *** Quits: B[]rG (~tuptidup@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3004 [22:42:52] *** Quits: nertaxos (~nertaxos@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3005 [22:43:00] *** Quits: Hydroxide (~jimmy@replaced-ip ) (Quit: rebooting, brb)
3006 [22:43:00] *** Joins: bit1 (~joseanton@replaced-ip )
3007 [22:43:58] *** Joins: hualet (~hualet@replaced-ip )
3008 [22:44:00] <jmcnaught> el_guapo: I always use a display manager, don't see any reason not to. Anyways, it is logind that is supposed to be managing access to input devices. There's a loginctl command you can use to query the system about the status of logins
3009 [22:45:07] *** Quits: manjaroCinnamon1 (~Manjarous@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3010 [22:45:17] <jmcnaught> el_guapo: for example "loginctl session-status" to see general info about a session. "loginctl seat-status" should list devices attached to that 'seat'
3011 [22:45:38] *** Quits: rkj (~rkj@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3012 [22:45:48] *** Quits: root-x (~root-x@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3013 [22:45:49] *** Quits: teclo- (42@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
3014 [22:46:31] <el_guapo> It's just that I use a very minimal install, and I've had no use for a display manager (yet). I've put myself out of "input", and after a reboot, the keyboard is still reckognized. Odd. I'll reboot again, just in case.
3015 [22:46:34] *** Joins: teclo- (42@replaced-ip )
3016 [22:46:38] *** Quits: Yondering (~Yondering@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Back later)
3017 [22:46:59] *** Joins: root-x (~root-x@replaced-ip )
3018 [22:47:03] <el_guapo> Awesome, thank you. I'll test it before rebooting.
3019 [22:48:02] *** Joins: beingbrown (~beingbrow@replaced-ip )
3020 [22:48:13] *** Quits: beingbrown (~beingbrow@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
3021 [22:48:13] *** Joins: beingbrown (~beingbrow@replaced-ip )
3022 [22:48:38] <el_guapo> Indeed, everything is listed. I'll try to poweroff completely, then check again.
3023 [22:48:44] <n4dir> el_guapo: what is a "very minimal install" ?
3024 [22:48:46] *** Joins: dripfeeder (~dripfeede@replaced-ip )
3025 [22:48:59] *** Joins: troffasky (~r00t@replaced-ip )
3026 [22:49:08] *** Joins: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip )
3027 [22:49:09] <n4dir> for example you can run into problems if you disable "recommends"
3028 [22:49:53] <id4rk> he is just too guapo to use a display manager
3029 [22:50:14] *** Quits: dripfeeder (~dripfeede@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
3030 [22:50:17] <n4dir> nothing wrong with not using a display manager, and not that unusual neither.
3031 [22:50:45] <el_guapo> n4dir: it's a netinstall, with nothing installed (no desktop environment, no server, nothing), and adding xorg, i3wm, and a few other programs.
3032 [22:50:48] *** Quits: LtL (~ltl@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3033 [22:50:49] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
3034 [22:51:07] <n4dir> ok, i see. I can't see how that should lead to the mentioned problems.
3035 [22:51:13] *** Quits: hualet (~hualet@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
3036 [22:51:22] <el_guapo> id4rk: ;-)
3037 [22:51:29] *** Quits: ChunkzZ (uid233645@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
3038 [22:51:39] <n4dir> i do recall that systemd had problems with startx, but it is quite a while ago, and i sure don't remember the details
3039 [22:51:40] <id4rk> :D
3040 [22:52:40] <n4dir> you might want to check the bug reports, perhaps that is still valid? (i doubt it though)
3041 [22:52:52] *** Quits: dArK_IcE (~lawl@replaced-ip ) ()
3042 [22:52:55] *** Joins: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip )
3043 [22:52:57] *** Joins: prasket (~prasket@replaced-ip )
3044 [22:53:17] <el_guapo> You're definitely right about that. I do use --no-install-recommends. and once Synaptic is installed, I uncheck "consider additional packages as dependencies", or something like that.
3045 [22:54:01] <n4dir> ok. that might lead to problems, now and then, but i sure don't know if it might be the case for your problem
3046 [22:54:10] <jmcnaught> el_guapo: recommended packages _are_ recommended
3047 [22:54:36] *** Joins: coelh0 (~coelho@replaced-ip )
3048 [22:55:02] <jmcnaught> it's better to reserve --no-install-recommends for situations where it wants to install too much stuff that you don't want
3049 [22:56:40] *** Quits: devtea (~tdreyer1@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
3050 [22:57:15] *** Quits: coelh0 (~coelho@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
3051 [22:57:27] *** Quits: dreamon (~dreamon@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3052 [22:57:58] *** Quits: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
3053 [22:58:28] *** Joins: austin987 (~null@replaced-ip )
3054 [22:58:28] *** Quits: root-x (~root-x@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3055 [22:58:50] <el_guapo> n4dir & jmcnaught: I see... I've overdone it again :-/. Well, right now, I'm still out of the "input" group, and after 2 poweroffs, everything works.
3056 [22:58:59] <n4dir> jmcnaught: i sure am with you (though i gotta say that i am simply too lazy to figure out each time which recommend i really need)
3057 [22:59:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1708
3058 [22:59:51] <jmcnaught> el_guapo: sweet
3059 [22:59:55] *** Joins: root-x (~root-x@replaced-ip )
3060 [23:00:17] *** Quits: philipballew (~philip@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
3061 [23:00:37] <jmcnaught> n4dir: generally I am inclined to trust the Debian maintainers about dependencies, better that than spend time figuring out what is missing
3062 [23:00:42] <n4dir> el_guapo: wouldn't call it overdone. Some like it like that. The small distors antix and refracta disable recommends per default too (which bugs me :-) ). Anyway: glad you got it all sorted ( i was only shooting in the dark anyway)
3063 [23:01:11] *** Parts: pie3 (~pieee@replaced-ip )
3064 [23:01:22] *** Joins: phorce1_home (~gvl2@replaced-ip )
3065 [23:02:32] *** Quits: bitSt0rm (~manjana@replaced-ip ) (Quit: )
3066 [23:02:45] *** Joins: chefoo (524f4a72@replaced-ip )
3067 [23:02:49] *** Joins: bitSt0rm (~manjana@replaced-ip )
3068 [23:03:04] <n4dir> jmcnaught: yup. same here. only if packages would install hundreds of MB, i consider if doing --no-install-recommends is an option for me
3069 [23:03:29] *** Quits: el_guapo (~el@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
3070 [23:03:54] *** Joins: Hydroxide (~jimmy@replaced-ip )
3071 [23:03:57] *** Quits: martinus__ (~martin@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3072 [23:04:54] *** Quits: D4v3Nu11 (~D4v3Nu11@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3073 [23:05:17] *** Quits: citypw (~citypw@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3074 [23:05:36] *** Joins: citypw (~citypw@replaced-ip )
3075 [23:05:48] <chefoo> hello, i am new to debian os
3076 [23:05:48] *** Quits: GDiaX (~gdiax@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3077 [23:05:54] *** Quits: phorce1_home (~gvl2@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3078 [23:05:56] <chefoo> i tried to run sudo dommand
3079 [23:05:59] *** Quits: nast (~nast@replaced-ip ) (Quit: nast)
3080 [23:06:10] <chefoo> but i get a really strange error :/
3081 [23:06:58] *** Joins: GDiaX (~gdiax@replaced-ip )
3082 [23:07:06] <apollo13> you should show us the error if you want help ;)
3083 [23:07:13] *** Quits: replaced-url
3084 [23:07:22] <chefoo> sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 29sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting sudo: unable to initialize policy plugin
3085 [23:07:51] <apollo13> did you edit /etc/sudoers ?
3086 [23:07:57] *** Quits: n_blownapart (~john@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3087 [23:08:16] *** Quits: bitSt0rm (~manjana@replaced-ip ) (Quit: )
3088 [23:08:31] *** Parts: sine0 (~sine@replaced-ip )
3089 [23:08:32] <chefoo> replaced-url
3090 [23:08:33] *** Joins: bitSt0rm (~manjana@replaced-ip )
3091 [23:08:38] <chefoo> whis is what i did
3092 [23:08:43] *** Quits: smurfd_ (~smurfd@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
3093 [23:09:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1701
3094 [23:09:02] <chefoo> the second reply
3095 [23:09:03] <apollo13> I doubt you did use visduo there
3096 [23:09:23] <apollo13> otherwise it would have told you that the file is not valid, anyways reboot into rescue mode and fix the file
3097 [23:09:35] <apollo13> (unless you have an open root shell)
3098 [23:09:35] *** Quits: root-x (~root-x@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3099 [23:09:53] <chefoo> nope, i don't have
3100 [23:10:05] <apollo13> rescue mode it is then most likely
3101 [23:10:12] <jmcnaught> chefoo: do you have a root password set, so you can use "su -l" to become root?
3102 [23:10:17] *** Quits: tier (~tier@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3103 [23:10:59] *** Joins: root-x (~root-x@replaced-ip )
3104 [23:11:20] *** Quits: edju (~edju@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3105 [23:11:24] *** Joins: Intel4bite (~INTEL4BIT@replaced-ip )
3106 [23:11:30] <chefoo> nope
3107 [23:12:14] *** Quits: sleepruim (~Icedove@replaced-ip ) (Quit: sleepruim)
3108 [23:12:22] <n4dir> that's weird. iirc during installation you will be asked if you want to use su or sudo. If you have choosen sudo, no need to edit the sudoers file. If you have choosen su, you can use su to become root.
3109 [23:12:41] <apollo13> n4dir: he wanted to use sudo without passwords apparently
3110 [23:12:44] <jmcnaught> chefoo: which Debian release is this?
3111 [23:13:08] *** Quits: czesmir (~stefan@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
3112 [23:13:24] <n4dir> apollo13: is see. so he has choosen sudo, then edited it to make it without password. my fault
3113 [23:13:47] *** Quits: Futha (~Futha@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3114 [23:14:01] <abrotman> chefoo: do you have a root password to login and fix it?
3115 [23:14:01] *** Joins: philipballew (~philip@replaced-ip )
3116 [23:14:12] <apollo13> abrotman: no we've established that :)
3117 [23:15:22] <chefoo> this is debian 9
3118 [23:15:33] <chefoo> no, i don't have a root password
3119 [23:15:38] <th0r> without the root password you can't edit the sudoers file, unless you are trying to hack in on a windows machine
3120 [23:15:52] *** Joins: KMGTB (54aa3f49@replaced-ip )
3121 [23:16:17] <apollo13> sure, reboot into a rescue shell and edit it from there
3122 [23:16:27] *** Joins: Futha (~Futha@replaced-ip )
3123 [23:16:35] *** Quits: Walakea (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Walakea)
3124 [23:16:50] <th0r> apollo13, then why not use it to just reset the root password?
3125 [23:17:23] <apollo13> th0r: *shrug* when you are already in as root you can as well fix the sudoers file^^
3126 [23:17:25] *** Joins: guest1034 (~guest2355@replaced-ip )
3127 [23:17:50] *** Joins: LorD_n1c0w (~rhodan@replaced-ip )
3128 [23:18:07] *** Joins: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip )
3129 [23:18:15] <abrotman> I'd reset the root password in case you don't fix the file correctly
3130 [23:18:40] *** Quits: Almtesh (~Almtesh@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - ##replaced-url
3131 [23:18:57] <apollo13> visudo should tell you at least if it's syntactically valid and you should be able to test if it actually works from the rescue console too
3132 [23:19:05] <apollo13> but yeah, a root password does not hurt
3133 [23:19:18] <KMGTB> hey guys, i have a little bit specific question. I want to install a fog server on my debian 8.8. But while the installation the setup script stuck install the needed packages. But if i install packages manually with apt-get everything went fine. My setup looks at the moment:WAN Router <- -> Windows Server (Routing between 192.168.2 (Net from WAN R
3134 [23:19:18] <KMGTB> outer) and 192.168.1. (internal Net), AD, DNS, DHCP) <- -> Clients, FOG Server. I have no Idea what going wrong. Could you give me a hint what i can do to figure out the problem?
3135 [23:19:34] *** Joins: el_guapo (~el@replaced-ip )
3136 [23:20:00] *** Quits: chefoo (524f4a72@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3137 [23:20:00] <apollo13> KMGTB: use tcpdump to see what happens with the data and strace to see what your script is doing
3138 [23:20:54] <petn-randall> KMGTB: Didn't we answer you in the German channel? You'll have to figure out what the script is doing differently, and if in doubt ask the creator of that script.
3139 [23:21:58] <KMGTB> Yes you did, but it didn't help. I tried to ask the creator but i still didn't get an answer
3140 [23:22:48] *** Joins: Almtesh (~Almtesh@replaced-ip )
3141 [23:22:51] *** Quits: Almtesh (~Almtesh@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
3142 [23:22:51] *** Joins: Almtesh (~Almtesh@replaced-ip )
3143 [23:22:55] *** Quits: bitSt0rm (~manjana@replaced-ip ) (Quit: )
3144 [23:23:27] *** Quits: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3145 [23:23:27] *** Quits: bielewelt (~bielewelt@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3146 [23:25:41] *** Joins: bielewelt (~bielewelt@replaced-ip )
3147 [23:25:41] *** Quits: Tom-_ (~tomg@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3148 [23:25:43] *** Quits: m8 (~m8@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3149 [23:26:20] <KMGTB> I have no idea why but after install the tcpdump it works
3150 [23:26:24] <KMGTB> really strange
3151 [23:26:35] *** Joins: Tom-_ (~tomg@replaced-ip )
3152 [23:28:52] <Graypup_> I have an incredibly crappy webcam which for some reason works in arch linux, but not on debian unstable. All the details I could think of are here: replaced-url
3153 [23:29:30] *** Joins: cerebro (~cerebro@replaced-ip )
3154 [23:30:15] *** Quits: SpeccyMan (~nick@replaced-ip ) (Quit: 'Goodbye')
3155 [23:30:33] *** Quits: Tolnaiz (~tolnaiz@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Textual IRC Client: ##replaced-url
3156 [23:30:40] *** Quits: Kopfstein (~B@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
3157 [23:30:55] *** Quits: root-x (~root-x@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3158 [23:31:02] *** Joins: soee (~soee@replaced-ip )
3159 [23:31:09] *** Joins: yeats (~chris@replaced-ip )
3160 [23:31:23] *** Quits: CME (~CME@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
3161 [23:31:32] *** Joins: CME (~CME@replaced-ip )
3162 [23:31:43] *** Joins: regedit (uid150526@replaced-ip )
3163 [23:32:03] *** Joins: dArK_IcE (~lawl@replaced-ip )
3164 [23:32:26] *** Quits: k000_ (~k000@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
3165 [23:32:31] *** Joins: root-x (~root-x@replaced-ip )
3166 [23:33:15] *** Joins: high_fiver (~high_five@replaced-ip )
3167 [23:33:26] *** Joins: dreamon (~dreamon@replaced-ip )
3168 [23:34:39] *** Quits: scream (~scream@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3169 [23:35:22] *** Quits: soee (~soee@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
3170 [23:35:24] *** Joins: soee_ (~soee@replaced-ip )
3171 [23:35:27] *** Quits: philipballew (~philip@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3172 [23:36:23] *** Joins: phinxy (~tehhhd@replaced-ip )
3173 [23:36:35] *** Quits: BlueByte (~walther@replaced-ip ) (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
3174 [23:36:42] *** Joins: buffal0 (~buffal0@replaced-ip )
3175 [23:37:32] *** Joins: k000 (~k000@replaced-ip )
3176 [23:37:40] *** Quits: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
3177 [23:38:06] *** Joins: kobain (~kobain@replaced-ip )
3178 [23:38:49] *** Quits: Guest8031 (~QualityAd@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3179 [23:39:27] *** Joins: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip )
3180 [23:40:42] *** Quits: lasdam (~lasdam@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3181 [23:41:10] *** Quits: dArK_IcE (~lawl@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
3182 [23:41:40] *** Quits: pitelpan (~panagioti@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3183 [23:41:51] <jhutchins> !webcam
3184 [23:41:52] <dpkg> For webcam device support in Debian, ask me about <gspca>, <uvcvideo>. See also <quickcam>, <ov51x-jpeg>, <ov511>, <m560x-driver>, <w9968cf>, <pwc>, <sn9c20x>. replaced-url
3185 [23:42:12] *** Quits: nertaxos_ (~nertaxos@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3186 [23:42:54] *** Joins: pitelpan (~panagioti@replaced-ip )
3187 [23:42:54] *** Quits: pitelpan (~panagioti@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
3188 [23:42:54] *** Joins: pitelpan (~panagioti@replaced-ip )
3189 [23:43:04] *** Quits: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: roshanavand)
3190 [23:43:43] *** Quits: martastain (~martastai@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3191 [23:44:04] *** Joins: sh4rk (~sh4rk@replaced-ip )
3192 [23:44:11] *** Parts: sh4rk (~sh4rk@replaced-ip )
3193 [23:45:27] *** Joins: JAP{NECRO}H (~yaaic@replaced-ip )
3194 [23:45:31] *** Joins: Guest12589 (~ben@replaced-ip )
3195 [23:45:32] *** Quits: maxxe (~swift@replaced-ip ) (Quit: dags för sömn)
3196 [23:46:00] *** Joins: WayToDoor (~milk.bott@lns-bzn-38-82-253-116-88.adsl.proxad.net)
3197 [23:46:28] *** Quits: nibble_zero (~chatzilla@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 54.0.1/20170628075643])
3198 [23:46:48] *** Quits: sim590 (~sim590@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3199 [23:48:12] *** Quits: HSorgYves (~HSorgYves@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3200 [23:48:25] *** Joins: amine (~amine@replaced-ip )
3201 [23:48:38] *** amine is now known as Guest56423
3202 [23:48:40] *** Joins: HSorgYves (~HSorgYves@replaced-ip )
3203 [23:48:40] *** Quits: HSorgYves (~HSorgYves@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
3204 [23:48:40] *** Joins: HSorgYves (~HSorgYves@replaced-ip )
3205 [23:48:51] *** Parts: Guest56423 (~amine@replaced-ip )
3206 [23:49:19] *** Quits: high_fiver (~high_five@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
3207 [23:49:46] *** Quits: err404 (~err404@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
3208 [23:50:20] *** Joins: jaequery_ (uid5254@replaced-ip )
3209 [23:50:37] *** Quits: tdn (~tdn@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
3210 [23:50:50] *** Joins: Guest56423 (~amine@replaced-ip )
3211 [23:51:11] *** Parts: Guest56423 (~amine@replaced-ip )
3212 [23:52:33] *** Quits: dreamon (~dreamon@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
3213 [23:53:18] *** Quits: psychicist__ (~psychicis@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
3214 [23:55:12] *** littlekitty_ is now known as littlekitty
3215 [23:55:13] *** Quits: th0r (~th0r@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
3216 [23:56:54] *** Joins: metax (~metax@replaced-ip )
3217 [23:57:38] *** Joins: tdn (~tdn@replaced-ip )
3218 [23:59:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1694
↑ top
context: nick names on moving displays as market values
#debian Freenode IRC channel closed on 2021-06-01
contact: a @ her0. be