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21 [00:08:13] <aguitel> how install flash in stretch ?
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33 [00:14:03] <galex-713> Hi
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35 [00:14:25] <galex-713> My thinkpad X220 has a modem, does someone know how to send smses and phonecalls?
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37 [00:14:59] <professorkaos64> Is there any merit on building a tool to build debian packages from a docker image? This would be like pbuilder but use docker images instead so it an also be used on non-debian distros and use other build tools
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39 [00:15:39] <jrtc27> professorkaos64: !dpkg fish builder manipulative
40 [00:15:48] <jrtc27> o.O huh
41 [00:15:49] <jrtc27> replaced-url
42 [00:16:15] <professorkaos64> pretty much that, but handle rpms and Arch Linux too
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49 [00:18:48] <jrtc27> professorkaos64: idk about that; maybe see if you can extend that one rather than reinventing the wheel? :)
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52 [00:19:15] <professorkaos64> I was going to take this one replaced-url
53 [00:19:32] <professorkaos64> that dev can't really update it anymore, and uses familiar code
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63 [00:24:59] <aguitel> anyway to install flash plugin in stretch ?
64 [00:25:30] <mutante> is curious what the answer will be. gave up myself after 5 min :p
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66 [00:25:57] <mutante> stupid Flash, always annoying since 10 years but still not dead.. getting close though
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68 [00:26:43] <aguitel> mutante, dont understand
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71 [00:27:05] <mutante> aguitel: we are in the same boat, i want to know as well
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73 [00:27:23] <aguitel> mutante,ok
74 [00:27:30] <forcerecon> sorry for delay.. I can't believe this little home server can run windows graphics but not debian 9 cinnamon
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76 [00:27:44] <forcerecon> hmph.. can't even reboot.. but will figure it out
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83 [00:33:32] <humbot> do you really need flash ? youtube uses html5 now, so do nearly all news sites
84 [00:34:24] <forcerecon> so even after a reboot I still get no panel or start menu, just wallpaper and a very very slow system.. I was able to open terminal and reboot, is gnome less resource intensive than cinnamon?
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86 [00:34:42] <forcerecon> is there a way to change it via terminal and see if that speeds things up
87 [00:35:12] <humbot> i think the package is flashplugin-nonfree mutante aguitel
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90 [00:37:17] <forcerecon> I reboot login and get everything but the interface.. I get wallpaper and mouse.. but nothing else..
91 [00:37:17] <shtrb> galex-713 , is the modem work ? if yes you can use AT commands (if it supports)
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96 [00:37:17] <shtrb> forcerecon , KDE or gnome ?
97 [00:37:23] <shtrb> or anything else
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103 [00:38:11] <galex-713> shtrb, the modem is integrated (internal, through usb, not pci), and I can have 3G “internet” with it
104 [00:38:28] <galex-713> oh sorry I have to go
105 [00:38:30] <galex-713> bye
106 [00:38:35] <shtrb> have fun
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110 [00:39:08] <aguitel> humbot, no package found for stretch
111 [00:39:29] <humbot> oh :o
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113 [00:39:45] <upbeta> does anyone know how to make thunderbolt display work on Debian 9?
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121 [00:42:53] <Hoolootwo> probably depends on your hardware and stuff
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123 [00:43:13] <forcerecon> shtrb: cinnamon
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127 [00:44:00] <forcerecon> debian 9 cinnamon shall I reinstall with gnome or is there a way to change to gnome on the fly
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132 [00:46:13] <humbot> forcerecon: the answer to some of your questions is yes
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137 [00:49:01] <forcerecon> this is a good learning adventure..
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139 [00:49:08] <forcerecon> finally get it installed and its useless..
140 [00:49:17] <forcerecon> live and learn
141 [00:49:18] <forcerecon> :D
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152 [00:56:01] <nvz> forcerecon: you typically have a display manager which offers a graphical login and you can choose your session type at that login screen
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155 [00:56:23] <eyes> Can you use luks to encrypt a root partition if there is already a debian install ?
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159 [00:58:11] <shtrb> eyes , you should always encrypt the parttion before the installation
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161 [00:58:53] <nvz> eyes: how large is the partition and how much is in use?
162 [00:59:05] <eyes> 475gb
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164 [00:59:17] <eyes> 100gb
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167 [00:59:39] <nvz> so you could if need be do an offline resize encrypt deal
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172 [01:00:31] <nvz> you'd boot from some other media like a flash drive or install cd, and shrink the partition, create a new partition and encrypt it, move the data and then delete the unencrypted partition and grow the new partition
173 [01:00:54] <nvz> it would be much simpler however to backup the data and reinstall if you have the ability to do so
174 [01:01:02] <nvz> not to mention it'd be a whole lot safer
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189 [01:06:48] <darko> can
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191 [01:06:55] <nvz> jar
192 [01:07:05] <ozzloy> can't
193 [01:07:16] <darko> can someone tell me how can i get a vhost?
194 [01:07:18] <darko> xD
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196 [01:07:27] <darko> y'all are funny
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199 [01:07:40] <nvz> we thought you were playing a word association game
200 [01:07:40] <mutante> darko: what do you mean? a webserver?
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202 [01:07:59] <nvz> generally you get those sort of things by shopping online and purchasing one
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204 [01:08:14] <darko> no, I mean I want my ip to be hidden
205 [01:08:34] <darko> I have a better opsec, just new to freenode
206 [01:08:50] <darko> and idk if we get a virtual host here
207 [01:09:07] <nvz> darko: freenode offers cloaks but they don't really hide your ip very securely
208 [01:09:11] <mutante> darko: oh, just rent access to a server somwhere and run your IRC client there..
209 [01:09:38] <darko> yes, currently on my vps, proudly a debian one
210 [01:09:57] <darko> w
211 [01:09:57] <nvz> darko: then what's the problem? :-P
212 [01:10:19] <mutante> darko: replaced-url
213 [01:10:29] <darko> well, i didnot pay by btc for my vps
214 [01:10:57] <mutante> darko: read that, and if you still want a cloak, ask in #freenode for one
215 [01:11:08] <darko> thank you mutante and nvz :D
216 [01:11:08] <mutante> you can get an "unaffiliated" one
217 [01:11:17] <darko> :D
218 [01:11:21] * darko reads
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224 [01:14:15] <botho> how does debian deblob its kernel? or does it use a linux-libre one ? i ask because there was an interview with the person responsible for deblobbing linux-libre, so i wondered how debian did it
225 [01:14:26] <darko> i got it. thanks again
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234 [01:17:52] <nvz> botho: deblob? the linux kernel has never had blobs
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238 [01:18:20] <nvz> you add that crap in and it says "this taints your kernel"
239 [01:18:29] <botho> ?
240 [01:18:36] <nvz> blobs are not part of the mainline kerel to begin with
241 [01:18:45] <botho> they are
242 [01:18:51] <botho> they are not part of the debian kernel
243 [01:18:55] <botho> but mainline, yes
244 [01:19:04] <nvz> botho: such as?
245 [01:19:30] <nvz> linus hates blobs he has flamed people for mucking up his kernel just with 3rd party stuff
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251 [01:21:25] <botho> well i dont know what kind of blobs are in the kernel specifically, i just know there are
252 [01:21:36] <botho> hence why linux-libre exists
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258 [01:23:02] <nvz> linux-libre is just another project that like debian aims to make a distribution free of blobs they're not talking about the kernel specifically
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262 [01:23:25] <nvz> debian only includes things like binary firmware and such in its non-free repos
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266 [01:23:49] <nvz> projects aiming to "deblob" as you say are trying to reverse engineer free alternatives to such things
267 [01:24:06] <nvz> you don't deblob the kernel, you just dont use stuff that requires binary only drivers
268 [01:24:15] <botho> you are mistaken nvz
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270 [01:25:40] <botho> anyway i asked somewhere else, seems debian run their own scripts on mainline kernel to deblob it, they don't use linux-libre kernel
271 [01:25:43] <jrmu> If I recall correctly, there are in fact blobs in the mainline kernel
272 [01:25:59] <jrmu> debian uses some of the same tools as the linux libre project to deblob it
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274 [01:26:18] <jrmu> replaced-url
275 [01:26:21] <mutante> there used to but then they got removed so finally the FSF could approve of Debian as "free"?
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278 [01:26:42] <jrmu> mutante: I don't think the fsf will ever approve of debian because of the repos
279 [01:26:46] <jrmu> nothing to do with the kernel itself
280 [01:26:50] <botho> indeed
281 [01:26:55] <botho> non-free repos is the problem
282 [01:27:03] <mutante> because of the non-free repos,, yea true.. but werent there also blobs removed? hmmm
283 [01:27:23] <mutante> i seem to remember something about at least reducing them
284 [01:27:52] <jrmu> These distros don't use the packaged Linux-libre but instead completely deblob the proprietary Linux kernel with some of the tools to make Linux-libre. The source is then compiled and the resulting free Linux kernel is used by default in these systems
285 [01:27:59] <jrmu> quoted from the wikipedia page
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288 [01:28:49] <jrmu> I'm happy with debian though since as long as you don't intentionally add the repos it's all open source software
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291 [01:29:20] <jrmu> mutante: as far as I am aware, debian has no blobs in its kernel. Someone correct me if I'm wrong
292 [01:29:48] <nvz> hmm I guess I been using debian so long I just assumed all that crap has always been seperate
293 [01:30:09] <jrmu> I don't think the other distros care though. Like if you picked up red hat, it probably has a kernel with blogs
294 [01:30:13] <jrmu> s/blogs/blobs*
295 [01:30:28] <nvz> and I've listened to linus on his nvidia bashing rants and stuff, I figured he'd die before he'd let that crap go mainline
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297 [01:30:42] <jrmu> nvz: I think he tried to keep the blobs isolated
298 [01:30:51] <jrmu> so it doesn't contaminate the kernel code too much
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300 [01:31:21] <nvz> well you see what happened to Berkeley and how long they fought to get their stuff back from AT&T
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302 [01:31:29] <botho> yes thats what i meant
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304 [01:31:35] <botho> mainline has blobs, debian kernel does not
305 [01:31:51] <botho> and i wondered if debian used the linux-libre kernel,or deblobbed linux themselves
306 [01:31:52] <jrmu> ok wikipedia says debian has been blob free since 6.0 squeeze
307 [01:31:53] <botho> its the latter
308 [01:31:57] <nvz> well it can't it would violate the DFSG and thus the Social Contract
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310 [01:32:31] <botho> and i wondered because linux-libre has a bug; you cant load proprietary firmware even if you wanted to. it was described 4 years ago as a bug, it hasn't been fixed yet
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312 [01:32:56] <botho> i was wondering if the debien kernel had the same bug, but that wouldn't make any sense i guess, since nonfree repo enables proprietary stuff
313 [01:33:01] <jrmu> it's part of the reason why other distros just work and my wifi on debian doesn't
314 [01:33:10] <nvz> well that obviously isn't an issue in debian, as the non-free firmware and drivers work in debian's kernels
315 [01:34:03] <botho> i wonder what could be different in linux-libre's work and debian's work..
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317 [01:34:21] <botho> as in: why does linux-libre have that bug, and debian doesnt
318 [01:34:44] <jrmu> I'm curious too. I think if we learned to build our own distro from scratch
319 [01:34:53] <jrmu> and deblobbed it ourselves we could probably see how it was done.
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322 [01:35:26] <nvz> I don't have an issue with binary drivers if they work and are well supported. Which is why I tended to disagree with Linus about nvidia because they stay on top of their drivers and they always worked incredibly well for me. Its when I run into crap that isn't maintained properly and doesn't work right that I take issue.
323 [01:35:35] <jrmu> I've actually wanted to play around with slack but it didn't have a deblobbed kernel, so I went with debian
324 [01:35:48] <jrmu> I'd really like to see if I could build slack without the blobs
325 [01:35:54] <jrmu> s/slack/slackware
326 [01:35:59] <nvz> I always hated how broadcom would block monitor mode in their drivers for example
327 [01:36:47] <jrmu> I'm worried about malware in binary only drivers
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330 [01:36:57] <jrmu> also I can't stand signing those terrible EULAs
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332 [01:37:40] <jrmu> do you run debian on modern hardware?
333 [01:37:51] <nvz> yeah I think of that shit too sometimes but these days they build backdoors right into the hardware itself and most people don't really pay close enough attention to their open source code to know if it did something anyhow.
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335 [01:38:24] <jrmu> I'm worried about the hardware too. I've been looking at libreboot
336 [01:38:27] <nvz> my hardware is modern, to be sure, as in it just came out recently, but its also half baked chinese trash
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339 [01:38:37] <jrmu> I feel like no one can trust their computers anymore
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341 [01:39:14] <jrmu> oops, wrong channel, I thought this was #debian-offtopic
342 [01:39:20] <nvz> we should move this discussion to #debian-offtopic..
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417 [02:43:36] <oojacoboo> hey guys, could use a little help, trying to find a source for installing `git-crypt`, but I'm a bit new to Debian
418 [02:43:53] <oojacoboo> I looked and it seems like the package is available in "stretch" source
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420 [02:44:07] <oojacoboo> I'm currently using "jessie"
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423 [02:44:29] <oojacoboo> is "jessie" codename for Deb 8 and "stretch" is Deb 9
424 [02:44:39] <oojacoboo> ?
425 [02:45:00] <ozzloy> oojacoboo, yes
426 [02:45:20] <oojacoboo> ozzloy is there any recommendation for installing a package like this on Deb 8?
427 [02:45:27] <ozzloy> (this is exactly the confusion i was asking about recently with codenames)
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430 [02:45:41] <oojacoboo> I guess compiling, but not sure if there is another way to pull from another source
431 [02:46:01] <ozzloy> i recommend upgrading to deb 9 unless you have a specific compelling reason not to
432 [02:46:14] <ozzloy> also i would start searching something like:
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435 [02:46:20] <oojacoboo> ozzloy using the official php docker container
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437 [02:46:26] <oojacoboo> which is Debian jessie
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439 [02:46:32] <ozzloy> "debian package how do i get source code"
440 [02:46:53] <somiaj> ozzloy: use a deb-src line and then apt-get source packagename
441 [02:47:09] <oojacoboo> somiaj just saw that in a google search
442 [02:47:27] <ozzloy> boom
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444 [02:47:46] <oojacoboo> does that require that I update my sources?
445 [02:47:56] <ozzloy> yes
446 [02:48:02] <ozzloy> add apt line, then update
447 [02:48:03] <lookingforme> he
448 [02:48:09] <ozzloy> then apt-get source
449 [02:48:12] <oojacoboo> ozzloy does that update the OS?
450 [02:48:23] <oojacoboo> or is that a temporary source change, then change it back?
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452 [02:49:09] <ozzloy> no it doesn't update the whole OS
453 [02:49:09] <ozzloy> the apt line just tells apt another place it can look for packages
454 [02:49:14] <ozzloy> and what kind of packages
455 [02:49:18] <somiaj> deb-src lines only give access to source packages and can safely be added to your sources.list for a different release than you are running.
456 [02:49:30] <somiaj> you can't install binary packages with deb-src lines, only source code
457 [02:49:36] <oojacoboo> ozzloy but if I issued an apt-get upgrade, it would do a full OS upgrade, no?
458 [02:49:45] <oojacoboo> after updating my sources, that is
459 [02:49:53] <ozzloy> update != upgrade
460 [02:49:54] <ozzloy> oh
461 [02:49:59] <dvs> oojacoboo, no, read the release notes
462 [02:50:07] <ozzloy> do your apt lines say "stable" or "jessie"
463 [02:50:09] <ozzloy> ?
464 [02:50:14] <oojacoboo> ozzloy yes
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466 [02:50:23] <ozzloy> which one?
467 [02:50:27] <ozzloy> (both?)
468 [02:50:33] <ozzloy> i'm a little out of my depth here
469 [02:50:38] <oojacoboo> debian jessie main
470 [02:50:46] <ozzloy> i defer to Someone Else (tm)
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472 [02:51:21] <ozzloy> but having said that, if it says "jessie" my guess is that you'll continue having jessie
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474 [02:51:39] <oojacoboo> hmm, was reading some upgrade notes that said otherwise, I thought
475 [02:51:45] <oojacoboo> if you ran "upgrade", that is
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477 [02:52:26] <ozzloy> if it says "stable" then you'll get whatever is "stable" at the time you issue the command
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479 [02:52:50] <ozzloy> which changes from time to time. until recently, "stable" meant "jessie"
480 [02:53:19] <oojacoboo> yea
481 [02:53:28] <oojacoboo> I'll TIAS
482 [02:53:32] <ozzloy> so if you had "stable" and stable has changed to refer to stretch
483 [02:53:32] <oojacoboo> thanks
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487 [02:55:05] <ozzloy> then issuing "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
488 [02:55:12] <ozzloy> woops, sorry
489 [02:55:15] <ozzloy> i'm on the phone now
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492 [02:56:35] <RainbowFagPride> Hello
493 [02:57:08] <ozzloy> (sorry, i have to step away for a bit. oojacoboo, you should get help from another person)
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495 [02:57:45] <oojacoboo> ozzloy I updated source.list, `apt-get autoremove`, then `apt-get update` then `apt-get install git-crypt` and it worked
496 [02:57:49] <oojacoboo> I'm still on Deb 8
497 [02:58:48] <RainbowFagPride> Hello Freenode, I represent the Rainbow Fag Pride 420 movement.
498 [02:58:50] <RainbowFagPride> We wish to legalize gay marriage, crack cocaine, and transgender rights across the world
499 [02:58:53] <RainbowFagPride> I have come to ask for the assistance of expert computer programmers in our mission to free the queers
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501 [02:59:11] <oojacoboo> RainbowFagPride please refrain from being offensive
502 [02:59:35] <RainbowFagPride> oojacoboo: are you a Muslim? You find LGBT issues offensive?
503 [02:59:36] <oojacoboo> pretty sure no one is going to take you seriously, or even find it funny
504 [02:59:56] <oojacoboo> I'm an agnostic, white American male
505 [02:59:57] <oojacoboo> thanks
506 [02:59:58] <RainbowFagPride> If not a Muslim you must be from the Ku Klux Klan
507 [03:00:19] <RainbowFagPride> oojacoboo: then what is your grounds for calling our movement offensive???
508 [03:00:29] <Bsadowski1> ...
509 [03:00:53] <oojacoboo> RainbowFagPride find another tree to bark up bro
510 [03:01:39] <RainbowFagPride> I am not barking. Are you calling LGBT persons dogs?
511 [03:01:51] <RainbowFagPride> !ops can someone deal with this racist oojacoboo please?
512 [03:01:52] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: rainbowfagpride complains about: can someone deal with this racist oojacoboo please
513 [03:01:52] <oojacoboo> can someone please ban this troll
514 [03:01:55] <ryouma> drop it
515 [03:02:08] <ryouma> (to the troll)
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517 [03:02:10] <forcerecon> If I add drives at a later time to debian will it cause any issues to booting
518 [03:02:36] <ryouma> forcerecon: your boot sequence might be relevant
519 [03:02:45] <ryouma> but you can probably set that
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524 [03:03:42] <forcerecon> I am having what seems like major lag on the machine once debian is installed,, gonna try one more time
525 [03:03:53] <forcerecon> I never get the panel or menu..
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527 [03:04:16] <forcerecon> and doing a key combination for terminal takes minutes to open
528 [03:04:21] <forcerecon> so not sure what is going on..
529 [03:04:58] <forcerecon> what is the least resource intensive flavor of debian but still graphic
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532 [03:05:19] <ryouma> use a window manager
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536 [03:06:17] <somiaj> debian can be fairly minimial on resources. It is about the software you choose to run, not the distrubtion.
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538 [03:07:01] <forcerecon> well just not sure why windows would run so well on the home server but linux is having what seems to be video issues
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540 [03:07:17] <ryouma> minutes to open sounds like a disk problem
541 [03:07:28] <ryouma> accessing a block
542 [03:07:38] <ryouma> try smartctl
543 [03:07:42] <forcerecon> might be.,,, need to reset one more tim e
544 [03:07:46] <ryouma> smartmontools package
545 [03:07:59] <ryouma> look at offline uncorrected and .. whatever the ohter one is
546 [03:08:06] <ryouma> reallocated sector count or something
547 [03:08:14] <ryouma> look at raw numbers
548 [03:08:57] <forcerecon> its too slow to install anything or check anything would take hours
549 [03:09:32] <forcerecon> just easier to try and configure it once more and then maybe try another distro just to test it out..
550 [03:09:39] <forcerecon> thanks everyone
551 [03:10:23] <ryouma> tell us what it was if you can
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555 [03:12:57] <forcerecon> I wish I understood the shell better, maybe look at some logs some place to see what is going on
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612 [03:46:30] <Devastator> which channel should be suitable for virtualization questions? I'm mainly curious if I should use a different hdd for the host system and another one for the VMs or it is "ok" to put all in one
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614 [03:46:56] <plbyrdWork> Hello
615 [03:47:11] <plbyrdWork> What is the package that contains configure so I can build stuff?
616 [03:47:24] <plbyrdWork> I would have thought it would be in build-essential, but it isn't.
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619 [03:47:53] <Hoolootwo> that's not how things work
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621 [03:48:10] <Hoolootwo> configure is part of the source in almost all cases
622 [03:48:25] <plbyrdWork> ok
623 [03:48:55] <plbyrdWork> I'm trying to get gala compiled from the sources.
624 [03:49:12] <plbyrdWork> I don't see a configure app in the folder, but there is a configure.ac
625 [03:49:29] <ryouma> ./configure is usually a shell script or smoething
626 [03:49:49] <ryouma> maybe you can look at the makefile
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628 [03:53:03] <somiaj> configure.ac is part of automake, you make need to use autoconf/automake to create the configure script
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630 [03:55:33] <plbyrdWork> ok
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642 [04:03:01] <plbyrdWork> @somiaj Thank you. I'm on my way now.
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674 [04:09:24] <AciD`> hey guys
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677 [04:11:14] <mandate20> Would you guys say that Ubuntu is more secure than Debian on a desktop level (for average users) considering the amount of app armor packages that ubuntu has
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679 [04:11:39] <AciD`> I just plugged back on a computer that was sitting there for a month. However, when I plug the displayport cable to it, the screen tells me 'No DisplayPort Cable". Is there a way to check the connected screens under Debian Stable (without having X running (ie. I cannot run xrandr -q)?
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864 [04:21:59] <Peyam> hi, When I run matlab following comes up. libGL error: unable to load driver: r600_dri.so
865 [04:21:59] <Peyam> libGL error: driver pointer missing
866 [04:21:59] <Peyam> libGL error: failed to load driver: r600
867 [04:21:59] <Peyam> libGL error: unable to load driver: swrast_dri.so
868 [04:21:59] <Peyam> libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast
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871 [04:22:14] <Peyam> MATLAB is selecting SOFTWARE OPENGL rendering.
872 [04:22:18] <Peyam> Segmentation fault
873 [04:22:29] <Peyam> hi. When I run matlab following comes up: replaced-url
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882 [04:25:14] <plbyrdWork> Well, now I get an error that gettext is out of date and it wants gettext-0.19.6 or newer, yet I've done apt-get upgrade gettext and it did a bunch of work and I still get the error.
883 [04:25:28] <Peyam> here is the X driver : replaced-url
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967 [05:05:36] <context> so i have virtual networks setup for wifi, but wpa_supplicant still starts at boot and when i try to ifup iface=vritual i fails. i have to manually stop wpa_supplicant.service and then i can ifup
968 [05:05:43] <context> is there an /easy/ way to fix this
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974 [05:08:24] <context> or i guess, what is the best way to have saved networks and just... have it try to connect to whatever it can
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981 [05:10:31] <dvs> context, wpa-supplicant on roam mode
982 [05:11:12] <context> dvs: k ill google that
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984 [05:12:51] <dvs> context, /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz
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991 [05:14:43] <context> anyway to tell wpa_supplicant.conf to include other files. so i can keep networks like in /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf.d or something? ;x im not seeing anything though
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994 [05:16:02] <context> thnx
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996 [05:16:14] <dvs> np
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1027 [05:33:52] <context> alright. i have auto iface.. but i still have to ifup iface after logging in :X
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1033 [05:40:44] <context> nm got that fixed :)
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1117 [07:04:00] <noalternative> I need help getting wifi & battery indicator working on hp x2 10 laptop. I trying to follow directions from here replaced-url
1118 [07:06:29] <noalternative> I installed multiarch jessie & enabled backports but I can't install new linux image because of dependency.errors
1119 [07:07:02] <noalternative> can someone help?
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1130 [07:14:57] <jmcnaught> noalternative: "/msg dpkg bat" for information to provide for troubleshooting package dependency problems. Have you tried running stretch on it?
1131 [07:15:25] <noalternative> replaced-url
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1134 [07:16:37] <noalternative> well I downloaded right before Jessie became old stable.
1135 [07:17:09] <noalternative> so no I have tried stretch.
1136 [07:18:11] <noalternative> I will run that command. The paste is from my apt console.
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1141 [07:18:40] <jmcnaught> noalternative: do you need the rt kernel? To install from backports you need to set it as the target: "apt-get -t jessie-backports install linux-image-686-pae"
1142 [07:18:59] <noalternative> ok
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1144 [07:19:52] <jmcnaught> noalternative: also stretch was released last month and has newer versions of packages without needing to use backports, it's easy to upgrade following the instructions in the release notes: replaced-url
1145 [07:21:48] <noalternative> thanks apt-get is installing that one. I wasn't sure what to install becaause nothing looked like what the instructions said.
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1152 [07:27:34] <noalternative> jmcnaught I'm going to reboot now but will be back.
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1371 [09:21:10] <Haris> hello all
1372 [09:21:23] <tx> hello one
1373 [09:21:27] <Haris> can we have php 5.x (5.5.x or 5.6.x) on debian 9 ?
1374 [09:21:34] <Haris> on stretch
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1390 [09:27:31] <mandate20> anyone know if you are required to do fancy chances within debian stretch (like modify grub) when using apparmor? Or is it now as simple as installing the package
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1420 [09:40:56] <neoclust> hi
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1431 [09:45:25] <petn-randall> Haris: PHP5 is not in stretch. However, you can still install jessie. It's still supported and comes with PHP 5.6.
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1433 [09:45:46] <Haris> no option to install 5.6 on stretch ?
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1486 [10:06:15] <petn-randall> Haris: You can always compile it by hand.
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1488 [10:06:30] <Haris> noted
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1490 [10:06:46] <Haris> usually the libraries do not support backward compatibility
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1492 [10:06:52] <Haris> but let's see
1493 [10:07:06] <petn-randall> Haris: What about installing jessie?
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1495 [10:07:15] <Haris> I could do that
1496 [10:07:26] <Haris> debian does upgrade smoothly from jessie -> stretch, right ?
1497 [10:07:30] <Haris> as before
1498 [10:07:41] <petn-randall> Haris: As always, yes. But you should always make backups.
1499 [10:07:54] <Haris> this is a brand new VM
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1662 [11:33:15] <guest223> I installed Debian 9 Stable with xfce but i am having problems with wifi. I am able to see all the available networks but can't connect.
1663 [11:33:27] <guest223> I used the non free iso.
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1672 [11:37:03] <petn-randall> Guest86097: What wifi device do you have?
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1674 [11:37:12] <petn-randall> Guest86097: You can check with 'lspci -nn'.
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1676 [11:38:11] <shtrb> guest223 , what do you mean "can't connect" , can you perform auth + dhcp request from cli ?
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1678 [11:38:49] <shtrb> maybe nm "forgot" the password for the wifi (it happen sometimes if you lose connection ) and you have to manually click on the connect in the app
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1681 [11:39:17] <shtrb> *if you are using nm to begin with
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1683 [11:40:20] <petn-randall> shtrb: There are several wifi devices that seemingly work without firmware packages, but they have buggy firmware on-chip, and fail to work on WPA2, for example.
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1686 [11:40:58] <shtrb> I know that is why I asked if he can perform an auth from cli
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1688 [11:41:29] <shtrb> if he can , and he uses nm , it maybe as simple as the problem I had last week (nm forcing you to click on connect because the connection was dropped (too far from the router) )
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1690 [11:42:23] <shtrb> being able to auth mean you finished the process with wpa_supplicant without errors (in case of WPA2/WPA )
1691 [11:42:52] <petn-randall> shtrb: good point
1692 [11:42:54] <shtrb> getting the CTRL-EVENT-CONNECTED
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1708 [11:48:40] <guest223> I am a complete beginner. So how do I perform an auth from cli?
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1712 [11:49:15] <BrainWork> guest223, please define "an auth"?
1713 [11:49:22] <nku> guest223: do you have a login prompt?
1714 [11:49:30] <shtrb> I said it , an auth to a wifi
1715 [11:49:41] <BrainWork> ah
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1717 [11:49:50] <shtrb> guest233 , do you get the popup in xfce that ask for a password when you click connect ?
1718 [11:50:03] <guest223> I get a prompt.
1719 [11:50:16] <shtrb> after you insert do you see any message or change ?
1720 [11:50:23] <shtrb> on screen
1721 [11:50:37] <guest223> The network connection has been disconnected.
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1723 [11:51:51] <guest223> It is on a fresh install, and i tried reimstall the OS but the problem still persists even though tge wireless did connect during install.
1724 [11:52:07] <plundra> Any idea why xbrightness has stopped working for me when moving from jessie to stretch? (Sprinkles of sid and experimental as well maybe... :))
1725 [11:52:11] <shtrb> you would need to open cli (terminal) , try something like dmesh| tail 10 after the connection an attempt
1726 [11:52:31] <BrainWork> tail -n100 -f /var/log/messages
1727 [11:52:32] <shtrb> *dmesg | tail -n 10
1728 [11:52:46] <BrainWork> that might help, it will keep it scrolling, then you just try to conenct and see what it says
1729 [11:52:54] <BrainWork> failing that /var/log/syslog might have more information
1730 [11:52:55] <shtrb> BrainWork too much info
1731 [11:53:12] <shtrb> guest233 , if you paste use a paste site
1732 [11:53:33] <shtrb> you might be missing a firmware , or nm being not friendly
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1734 [11:54:14] <guest223> it says
1735 [11:54:31] <guest223> send auth to
1736 [11:54:41] <guest223> then the mac address
1737 [11:54:48] <guest223> then authenticated
1738 [11:55:03] <guest223> It is repeated three times.
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1740 [11:55:25] <shtrb> you have assoited ?
1741 [11:55:33] <shtrb> or deauth
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1743 [11:55:46] <petn-randall> guest223: Can you connect the problematic PC via Ethernet? That way you could paste the exact messages you get, which would help us with debugging.
1744 [11:55:53] <guest223> then IPv6 ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP) link is not ready
1745 [11:56:04] <shtrb> you better paste it on some paste site
1746 [11:56:13] <petn-randall> !paste
1747 [11:56:13] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: replaced-url
1748 [11:56:35] <guest223> Ok.
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1750 [11:56:41] <humbobo> on some laptop i had to disable IPv6 in the settings
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1752 [11:57:44] <Dagger> ...please don't disable v6 just because the v6 code has an informative message telling you that the interface isn't ready yet
1753 [11:59:17] <guest223> replaced-url
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1765 [12:02:56] <shtrb> the association is missing from that trace - please make sure your mac is not banned on the router and that you are not missing any firmware
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1771 [12:04:52] <shtrb> To be sure you can create a /etc/wpa_suppliant.conf file (using wpa_passphrase ) and than doing wpa_supplicant -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -i wlxc83a35ca4935
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1776 [12:05:43] <guest223> ok.
1777 [12:05:53] <shtrb> wpa_passphrase "networkname" password >> /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
1778 [12:06:06] <shtrb> guest223 , and double check the password :)
1779 [12:06:44] <humbobo> especially if theres odd characters or different locales
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1781 [12:06:55] <debooooo> Hey is Debian Live same as Ubuntu Live I mean does it only use the RAM for storage like Ubuntu?
1782 [12:07:12] <guest223> Well thanks.
1783 [12:08:38] <guest223> I am sure that the mac is not banned as it was working previously while i was using ubuntu gnome. And I have tried that password a couple of times and even tried connecting to my phones hotspot. Couldn't connect.
1784 [12:09:16] <petn-randall> debooooo: That's how live systems work, yes. However, if you want to install, I recommend using the net installer, since the live system at least has a bug setting the root password when installing with it.
1785 [12:09:43] <jelly> debooooo, by default yes. There's some support for persistence that requires extra configuration.
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1804 [12:19:19] <opv> hi everyone, i want to automate the install of the "snoopy" package on debian 8. however, the install routine as part of apt presents me with a "dialog" window after the package is installed. how can i automate that?
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1809 [12:22:00] <petn-randall> opv: If you have a non-interactive shell it will just select the defaults and skip the dialog.
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1830 [12:30:07] <nohitall> hi I have a issue with stretch installation, I amtrying to install it on a 50GB partition (guided partitioning) but it fails because it says its too small...?
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1838 [12:32:52] <petn-randall> nohitall: How did you create the installation image?
1839 [12:35:08] <nohitall> petn-randall: ah nevermind...I forgot a step in between *facepalm*
1840 [12:35:21] <nohitall> installing now fine
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1844 [12:36:57] <nohitall> petn-randall: got so many disks I oversaw "finish partitioning and writes changes to disk"
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1846 [12:38:06] <petn-randall> nohitall: Ah, good you found the mistake.
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1848 [12:39:29] <nohitall> petn-randall: yea 99% user mistake
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1851 [12:42:05] <joe03> Hi after updating a Server from Debian 6 to 7 the network interfaces do not come up automatically on boot. Nothing changed in network/interfaces. The interfaces work if I configure them manually with ifconfig. Any ideas how to fix this ?
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1853 [12:43:40] <debooooo> petn-randall and jelly: Thanks.
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1873 [12:56:52] <nvz> joe03: check dmesg log to see if it says anything like link not ready. Paste your interfaces file and dmesg log on paste.debian.net for more details if need be
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1881 [13:03:19] <z8z> Hello, how to remote access a debian desktop?
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1885 [13:05:14] <wondiws> where can I find the keymap or country code in use for my keyboard?
1886 [13:05:34] <wondiws> I want to change the mapping of the xkb files, but I need to know which language
1887 [13:05:35] <nvz> z8z: do you want to access a running x session or start a new one?
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1890 [13:06:24] <nku> z8z: ssh?
1891 [13:06:31] <rafalcpp> z8z: using VNC, but because that protocol was created by totall idiots, always remember to tunnel it via SSH
1892 [13:07:13] <rafalcpp> z8z: if you are ok with starting "new apps", other then "connecting to my entire desktop that I have open", you could use just ssh -X instead
1893 [13:07:14] <nvz> vnc is more for making a new session, rdp is for accessing a running session
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1895 [13:07:25] <rafalcpp> nvz: what? since when
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1898 [13:08:14] <nvz> since when you start xvncserver it by default creates a new x session and doesnt even require that you have an x server running or even installed, and rdp exports a current display's framebuffer
1899 [13:08:30] <rafalcpp> nvz: I use VNC to connect to existing desktops. run vnc server on the desktop (and install firewall etc), then connect over secure encrypted and authed network from the client using vnc client
1900 [13:08:48] <rafalcpp> nvz: VNC does the same easily, I used that, no problems
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1902 [13:09:45] <nvz> rdp programs are easier for people that don't know their way around vnc server, it has guis to start and manage the sessions even popup a dialog asking if someone can connect
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1906 [13:10:10] <nvz> vnc is good when you want to keep things light cause as I said it doesnt even require x to be installed
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1908 [13:10:26] <rafalcpp> nvz: btw how secure is rdp? encrypted connection? is password encrypted/hashed?
1909 [13:10:39] <rafalcpp> vnc is the only program I know that is much less secure then even say systemd
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1912 [13:11:13] <rafalcpp> around adobe flash levels. maybe it should show special warning on first run
1913 [13:11:25] <z8z> nvz: i tried vnc before but i was accessing a desktop where windows had no top bar and stuff
1914 [13:11:26] <nvz> 11
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1921 [13:12:36] <nvz> z8z: sounds like a misconfiguration there are lots of options
1922 [13:13:00] <nvz> there is a third option built into X but I forget what its called
1923 [13:13:30] <z8z> nvz: ok i'm trying in this moment.... is there some GUI to setup vnc server?
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1927 [13:15:24] <nvz> xdmcp thats what it was called
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1930 [13:16:18] <nvz> z8z: in my experience the easiest graphical method to export a running x server is rdp, not vnc
1931 [13:16:34] <nvz> vnc is more for people who want to get into the config files and command line options
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1933 [13:16:49] <colo-work> what? `x11vnc`, and you are done
1934 [13:17:17] <nvz> hmm I never tried that before
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1936 [13:17:38] <nvz> there also seems to be ssvnc which aids tunneling over ssh
1937 [13:19:25] <z8z> nvz: x11vnc supports encryption.... why would i need ssh too?
1938 [13:20:07] <nvz> z8z: ssh is to tunnel it if you're accessing it across the internet because vnc is not encrypted
1939 [13:20:26] <nvz> RDP is a more advanced protocol and can run more effeciently
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1941 [13:21:39] <nvz> RDP not only more intelligently draws the remote framebuffer, but it can also support extensions like audio
1942 [13:22:26] <nvz> which is why I said vnc is more for the power user because its just a dumb protocol and needs other things to make it do stuff RDP already does
1943 [13:22:28] <z8z> nvz: sounds good... it supports encryption too i guess
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1945 [13:23:18] <nvz> yes it does have encryption capabilities on its own as well
1946 [13:23:36] <nvz> I would still recommend using a VPN or SSH though when doing these kinds of things over the internet
1947 [13:24:19] <nvz> openvpn and ssh aren't that difficult to setup and they support more robust port management and security features like keys
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1949 [13:24:58] <nvz> if you're just doing this inside your home or office network RDP's built in security may be enough
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1959 [13:29:11] <aguitel> anyway to install flash plugin in stretch ?
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1963 [13:31:18] <nvz> aguitel: need to add non-free sources and install flashplugin-nonfree
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1966 [13:32:07] <nvz> aguitel: if you need more information on how to do that, I need to know if you typically use like apt-get or aptitude on the command line or a GUI like synaptic
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1971 [13:33:11] <aguitel> nvz, this is my file:deb replaced-url
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1973 [13:34:10] <jelly> nvz, flashplugin-nonfree downloader has been broken for months
1974 [13:34:15] <opv> petn-randall: thank you for your response. i wish to select the other option, how would i go about doing that?
1975 [13:34:29] <nvz> jelly: I thought most new browsers come bundled with a flash implementation now
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1977 [13:34:58] <opv> they do, don't they
1978 [13:35:19] <forcerecon> morning everyone
1979 [13:35:22] <jelly> not the ones you get in debian
1980 [13:35:44] <nvz> jelly: this is the 2nd person I saw ask about this in the last 24 hours, and I've been away too long to know these things :P
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1983 [13:36:06] <aguitel> jelly, some sites need flash to open , how do that?
1984 [13:36:07] <nvz> I just noticed flashplugin-nonfree doesnt show up for me either
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1986 [13:36:44] <jelly> it's there, but "update-flashplugin-nonfree --install" does not work
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1988 [13:37:38] <nvz> aguitel: browser-plugin-gnash is a free implementation that supports older versions of flash up to version 9
1989 [13:37:47] <aguitel> is debian error or flash error ?
1990 [13:37:48] <jelly> aguitel, get tarball of flash from adobe, unpack libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/ directory
1991 [13:38:07] <forcerecon> curious.. if you are creating a raid array and you will be using the array for stuff you are storing in the cloud, then I don't really care if a drive dies, I can just rebuild and get the data back from the cloud. I can use raid 0
1992 [13:38:13] <nvz> 11
1993 [13:38:27] <forcerecon> this way I maximize space get excellent performance and again don't need to worry about data
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1997 [13:38:41] <jelly> aguitel, if the downloader were in main repo, it would be debian's error
1998 [13:38:58] <aguitel> jelly nvz ok
1999 [13:39:28] * nvz investigates the issue
2000 [13:39:58] <jelly> I'm assuming you're trying to make firefox work. Don't know where to put the files to make chromium work.
2001 [13:40:40] <jelly> forcerecon, sure, if you have enough upload bandwidth to actually sync everything to the cloud
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2003 [13:40:50] <nvz> jelly: there are no outstanding bugs open on the package, they are all on old branches and closed
2004 [13:41:14] <jelly> nvz, does "update-flashplugin-nonfree --install" work for you?
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2007 [13:41:46] <nvz> jelly: as I said I don't even have the package available
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2010 [13:42:21] <jelly> it's only available for i386 and amd64
2011 [13:42:23] <nvz> even judd says its not in stretch
2012 [13:42:28] <forcerecon> jelly: thanks.. yes I do.. all good.. thanks again
2013 [13:42:32] <nvz> ,versions flashplugin-nonfree
2014 [13:42:33] <judd> Package: flashplugin-nonfree on amd64 -- wheezy/contrib: 1:3.2+wheezy1; jessie/contrib: 1:3.6.1+deb8u1; sid/contrib: 1:3.7
2015 [13:42:54] <jelly> makes sense, because it's been useless for months
2016 [13:43:22] <jelly> it doesn't work in jessie/i386.
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2018 [13:44:18] <forcerecon> this is just a test run.. I had lots of trouble with debian 9 on this home server.. I had to try something else after working on it so long yesterday, so I bit the bullet and downloaded linux mint debian edition. seems to be running perfectly. However, what I am thinking, is that I will create the array and the partitions will all be set, then install debian again. This time everything will be in place and I can just pick and choose
2019 [13:44:18] <forcerecon> during installation. Hopefully that fixes the issues I had yesterday
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2021 [13:45:06] <forcerecon> array creation underway... might be done tomorrow night some time
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2027 [13:46:50] <galex-713> Hi, I have the thinkpenguin.com usb wifi dongle (the big one with the external rf antenna) and it first weren’t recognized, then I’ve downloaded their htc_9271.fw (they recommand using it for debian 7 and 8 but it was before 9 was out) and did put it in /lib/firmware and now the dongle is recognized and I can see the wifi AP around me but can’t connect to anyone :/
2028 [13:46:59] <galex-713> it does “configuring interface” then disconnect
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2032 [13:48:31] <nvz> dpkg, flash stretch is flashplugin-nofree package has been broken for months and was not included in stretch. To install manually obtain the flash plugin from replaced-url
2033 [13:48:31] <dpkg> okay, nvz
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2035 [13:49:16] <jelly> judd, file htc_9271.fw
2036 [13:49:20] <judd> Search for htc_9271.fw in stretch/amd64: firmware-atheros: lib/firmware/htc_9271.fw
2037 [13:49:25] <nvz> dpkg flash =~ s/841373/841373. See also <flash stretch>./
2038 [13:49:25] <dpkg> nvz: OK
2039 [13:49:37] <jelly> galex-713, install that firmware-atheros package
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2041 [13:49:52] <jelly> dpkg, tell galex-713 about non-free sources
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2043 [13:50:20] <galex-713> jelly, it is meant to work without non-free software
2044 [13:50:33] <galex-713> and I already got it work on a fully-free debian system
2045 [13:50:49] <jelly> galex-713, sure, but debian did not switch to packaging the free firmware separately
2046 [13:50:51] <jelly> yet
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2048 [13:51:10] <galex-713> ?
2049 [13:51:19] <galex-713> you mean firmware-atheros is free software?
2050 [13:51:31] <jelly> no, I mean some parts of it are free.
2051 [13:51:53] <galex-713> ahhh ok
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2054 [13:52:18] <galex-713> then I prefer downloading that through the website
2055 [13:52:25] <jelly> suit yourself
2056 [13:52:30] <galex-713> instead of adding the whole non-free repo
2057 [13:52:45] <wondiws> I've got here a simple bluetooth keyboard that I paired with my raspberry-pi, this keyboard doesn't have an escape key or function keys, but instead multimedia keys. I want to remap those keys, but it seems there are several ways of doing this
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2059 [13:52:49] <galex-713> jelly, btw, why aren’t the free stuff separated so that they’re accessible in non-free?
2060 [13:52:55] <wondiws> what is the most practical way, y'all reckon?
2061 [13:53:07] <jelly> galex-713, don't remember
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2063 [13:53:32] <jelly> there were some build issues with ath htc stuff, I think
2064 [13:53:32] <wondiws> I'm now in the /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols directory
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2066 [13:53:49] <nvz> wondiws: that depends on your usage entirely, triggerhappy will work globally on console and in any desktop system
2067 [13:54:19] <jelly> galex-713, not sure how out of date this page is: replaced-url
2068 [13:54:26] <nvz> wondiws: it also supports moded bindings, where you can bind the same keys to different functions in different modes
2069 [13:54:45] <jelly> wondiws, if you're running raspbian on it right now, the right place to ask is #raspbian channel
2070 [13:55:03] <galex-713> ok strangely http decided to stop working
2071 [13:55:26] <wondiws> jelly, yes, but I suspect this channel is more active, and it's not specific to raspbian. Altough raspbian is also active, I admit that
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2074 [13:55:47] <wondiws> I'll install triggerhappy first
2075 [13:56:07] <wondiws> oh, it's already installed
2076 [13:56:12] <jelly> wondiws, we do not support derivatives in here, if anyone is interested they can freely join #raspbian
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2079 [13:56:44] <wondiws> jelly, then I pair this keyboard to my ultrabook :P
2080 [13:56:59] <jelly> if you can reproduce the issue on actual debian (say, connect the keyboard to a pc, yes), then you'll be free to ask here. Please don't lie, tho.
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2082 [13:57:56] <wondiws> jelly, then I'll pair this keyboard, I forgot the 'll :P
2083 [13:58:04] <wondiws> but enough of this banter
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2085 [13:58:25] <wondiws> I will do my best to comply
2086 [13:58:31] <jelly> thanks
2087 [13:58:34] <botho> this page replaced-url
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2090 [13:59:09] <debianUser5939> Hello i have 3 machines
2091 [13:59:22] <botho> ah
2092 [13:59:26] <debianUser5939> computerA, computerB, computerC
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2094 [13:59:33] <botho> no, the second does sell debian laptops. the first doesn't
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2097 [14:00:11] <debianUser5939> I successfully managed to mount a resource from computerC to computerA via ssh
2098 [14:00:31] <debianUser5939> But because computerC has a very poor arm processor, i would like to change it in SMB
2099 [14:00:37] <debianUser5939> I'm using this command:
2100 [14:00:48] <debianUser5939> ssh -f userB@systemB -L 2222:systemC:22 -N
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2102 [14:00:53] <debianUser5939> sshfs -p 2222 userC@localhost:/remote/path/ /mnt/localpath/
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2104 [14:01:16] <debianUser5939> what i wonder is.. can i use instead of the second line with sshfs.. a smb mount ?
2105 [14:01:26] <debianUser5939> can you help me with the syntax ?
2106 [14:01:39] <jelly> you can to tunnel cifs protocol via ssh?
2107 [14:01:49] <jelly> s/can to/want to/
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2110 [14:02:25] <jelly> debianUser5939, that won't make any difference in CPU usage on systemB
2111 [14:02:35] <debianUser5939> jelly: and that's ok for me
2112 [14:02:47] <debianUser5939> jelly: pcA and pcB are very powerful
2113 [14:03:16] <debianUser5939> jelly: it's pcC that is a poor nas with arm and if it use ssh slows down everything down to 5MB/s as maximum
2114 [14:03:29] <debianUser5939> i have to transfer 4TB :\ it takes ages
2115 [14:03:53] <debianUser5939> jelly: i think i can tunnel it
2116 [14:04:06] <debianUser5939> jelly: machines A and B are with debian9
2117 [14:04:17] <debianUser5939> so i can access to any available deb9 package
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2122 [14:07:59] <jelly> changing to cifs tunnel won't make ssh on systemB work any faster
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2125 [14:09:36] <debianUser5939> and it's ok
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2127 [14:09:43] <debianUser5939> machines A and B have 0.2 load..
2128 [14:09:53] <debianUser5939> instead machine C has 2.8 load
2129 [14:10:19] <debianUser5939> which command i can use to mount the resource via cifs ?
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2131 [14:11:42] <debianUser5939> mount -t cifs //localhost -o username=admin,password=mypass /mnt/myshare <-- i guess that i have to specify the port too right ?
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2133 [14:12:53] <debianUser5939> hmm soo
2134 [14:13:14] <debianUser5939> ssh -f userB@systemB -L 4444:systemC:445 -N
2135 [14:13:36] <debianUser5939> mount -t cifs //localhost -o username=admin,password=mypass,port=4444 /mnt/myshare
2136 [14:13:38] <debianUser5939> right ?
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2155 [14:22:37] <debianUser5939> jelly: what is the command for debian9 ? i think they changed something.. also smbfs doesn't work :\
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2160 [14:23:36] <jelly> debianUser5939, //localhost/share-name, don't forget the share name
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2163 [14:24:04] <debianUser5939> jelly: generally i like tho browse via all the shares available
2164 [14:24:15] <jelly> no idea about port specification, man mount.cifs
2165 [14:24:30] <debianUser5939> the error however is: wrong fs type. misssing codepage or helper program
2166 [14:24:32] <jelly> debianUser5939, generally you don't mount all shares, just one
2167 [14:24:53] <debianUser5939> it's ok but he says that i miss the helper program or fs
2168 [14:25:07] <jelly> judd, file sbin/mount.cifs
2169 [14:25:10] <judd> Search for sbin/mount.cifs in stretch/amd64: cifs-utils: sbin/mount.cifs
2170 [14:25:20] <jelly> debianUser5939, ^^ make sure cifs-utils is installed
2171 [14:25:37] <debianUser5939> hmm i fear not lol
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2173 [14:26:26] <debianUser5939> ok them are not installed i will try again once them are installed
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2175 [14:28:35] <cybrNaut> these steps fucked up my new debian installation => replaced-url
2176 [14:29:03] <cybrNaut> now I get a boot-time loop saying "cryptsetup (sda5_crypt): lvm is not available
2177 [14:29:41] <cybrNaut> do I have to reinstall debian from scratch?
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2181 [14:31:17] <jelly> cybrNaut, boot a livecd, see if you can luksOpen the right partition manually
2182 [14:32:25] <cybrNaut> jelly: would it work to boot a hard drive with my old system instead of a live CD?
2183 [14:32:45] <cybrNaut> i could attach the messed up drive to the system I have running now
2184 [14:32:47] <galex-713> jelly, once I downloaded and did put the new htc_9271.fw in the /lib/firmware directory, what should I do to make it work?
2185 [14:32:50] <galex-713> reboot?
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2198 [14:38:20] <galex-713> jelly, it does the same as before for the moment :/
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2205 [14:42:40] <iodev> can anyone help me with my QCA9377?
2206 [14:42:56] <iodev> I can't get it to work after I turn on bluetooth
2207 [14:43:09] <iodev> net is slower than <0.1 Mbps
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2209 [14:43:23] <iodev> (after I start using a headset speed drops)
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2213 [14:44:55] <cybrNaut> "Device /dev/sdb5 is not a valid LUKS device."
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2217 [14:45:47] <iodev> cybrNaut: corrupted?
2218 [14:45:51] <digitalboy> Hi guys, I'm wondering how to install Debian without that 1MB alignment partition at the beginning of the partition table..
2219 [14:46:07] <cybrNaut> cryptsetup should not be doing anything with my /dev/sda5
2220 [14:46:18] <cybrNaut> replaced-url
2221 [14:46:22] <cybrNaut> iodev: not sure, i followed these steps ^
2222 [14:46:27] <iodev> digitalboy: not really mbscrooge
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2225 [14:47:30] <digitalboy> iodev: I don't understand, mbscrooge? What is that?
2226 [14:47:44] <petn-randall> digitalboy: Why do you want to do that?
2227 [14:47:47] <petn-randall> !xy problem
2228 [14:47:48] <dpkg> Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's easy to miss that there is a better way to proceed. See replaced-url
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2230 [14:48:12] <iodev> digitalboy: a joke, if you worry about 1 MB, you sure are a cheapskate (a megabyte scrooge)
2231 [14:48:12] <digitalboy> petn-randall: Because I think don't need it
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2234 [14:48:40] <iodev> even if you don't need it, cmon! you got at least 100000MB :D
2235 [14:49:05] <petn-randall> digitalboy: You'll need it to embed grub into the start of the partition, and it's not that much you're loosing on a e.g. 1 TB drive.
2236 [14:49:19] <petn-randall> iodev: not helping
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2240 [14:49:47] <iodev> petn-randall: sorry
2241 [14:50:19] <digitalboy> petn-randall: Are you sure? Even with a UEFI based firmware? I mean the firmware is looking for an ESP partition right? vfat?
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2247 [14:51:55] <petn-randall> digitalboy: In that case grub ends up being a PE32 on the ESP. But even then you'd at most gain less than a floppy disk worth of data, at risk of using the wrong block alignment and risking a performance drop on I/O.
2248 [14:52:22] <petn-randall> digitalboy: So I recommend not worrying about it and just carrying on with the installation.
2249 [14:53:13] <jelly> cybrNaut, did you tell it to do something with your /dev/sda5? what do "lsblk" and "blkid" say?
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2252 [14:54:00] <digitalboy> petn-randall: Thank you for the precious info, anyway do you still think that alignment would be needed on a SSD drive?
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2265 [14:58:17] <wondiws> I've never seen this before: "sudo bash" just hangs the terminal
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2268 [14:58:28] <wondiws> CTRL-C doesn't do anything either anymore
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2273 [15:01:38] <cybrNaut> jelly: lsblk shows this => ├─sdb5 8:21 0 3.9G 0 part
2274 [15:01:58] <cybrNaut> (note that it's sdb5 instead of sda5 b/c I mounted it to my working system)
2275 [15:02:03] <jelly> cybrNaut, pastebin complete outputs, please
2276 [15:02:19] <jelly> !paste
2277 [15:02:19] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: replaced-url
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2282 [15:03:56] <jelly> ,v firmware-ath9k-htc
2283 [15:03:57] <judd> Package: firmware-ath9k-htc on amd64 -- buster: 1.4.0-81-gf206e56+dfsg-2; sid: 1.4.0-81-gf206e56+dfsg-2
2284 [15:04:12] <petn-randall> digitalboy: Sure, SSDs also work in block, just like rotating platters.
2285 [15:04:17] <petn-randall> *blocks
2286 [15:05:06] <z8z> nvz: i logged in to the newly created xrdp server but i see all blue desktop with nothing in it
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2292 [15:06:09] <digitalboy> petn-randall: You were right, thank you for helping me, I've also found this PDF (by Intel) that talks about SSD alignment: replaced-url
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2295 [15:07:09] <digitalboy> petn-randall: Sorry to bother you again, but I have one more question (or maybe two :D)
2296 [15:07:17] <cybrNaut> jelly: replaced-url
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2305 [15:10:46] <petn-randall> digitalboy: Go ahead, just ask.
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2314 [15:13:34] <cybrNaut> jelly: replaced-url
2315 [15:13:58] <sypher> Why are we masking uuids, exactly?
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2319 [15:14:31] <cybrNaut> sypher: they're not relevant to the problem
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2322 [15:14:51] <cybrNaut> /dev/sdb6: UUID="foo" TYPE="crypto_LUKS" PARTUUID="foo" <= the type seems to be the problem..
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2325 [15:15:50] <cybrNaut> blkid reports /dev/sdb6 to be crypto_LUKS.. how do I change that?
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2329 [15:16:26] <cybrNaut> oh, sorry, that's sdb6, it's correct
2330 [15:16:36] <jelly> cybrNaut, and why did you hide uuids?
2331 [15:16:39] <cybrNaut> i can't see what the problem is
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2333 [15:16:59] <cybrNaut> jelly: they're unique, a kind of fingerprint
2334 [15:17:06] <jelly> yeah, so?
2335 [15:17:25] <cybrNaut> iow, they identify me.. if i wanted to be identified, my handle would be my name
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2337 [15:17:39] <digitalboy> petn-randall: replaced-url
2338 [15:17:45] <jelly> munging data makes it hard to help you
2339 [15:17:54] <sypher> cybrNaut: That's not how UUIDs work. At all.
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2341 [15:18:29] <cybrNaut> jelly: so knowing the uuid will help you solve the problem?
2342 [15:18:55] <jelly> it will make me more confident you didn't mess anything else in the output
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2345 [15:19:14] <jelly> cybrNaut, in any case, your sdX5 does not seem to be a luks container. Fix your /etc/crypttab and rebuild initramfs so it does not even try to decrypt it
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2348 [15:19:22] <petn-randall> digitalboy: Are you crossposting this question somewhere?
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2350 [15:19:38] <digitalboy> petn-randall: No, why you ask?
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2352 [15:19:58] <petn-randall> digitalboy: Because you created a paste with your question in it.
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2355 [15:20:05] <petn-randall> digitalboy: Just install 'less' then.
2356 [15:20:09] <digitalboy> I've used the Debian paste service because the poste was more than 2 lines
2357 [15:20:11] <cybrNaut> jelly: i already had sda5 removed from the crypttab, but rebuilding initramfs seems to be what's eluded me
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2360 [15:20:36] <jelly> cybrNaut, use update-initramfs
2361 [15:20:40] <cybrNaut> thanks
2362 [15:21:03] <digitalboy> petn-randall: How can I install it without an active Internet connection? Can i use dpkg when the system is booted from the Debian USB?
2363 [15:21:19] <petn-randall> digitalboy: You can type long messages in here, no problem. Just don't paste contents of files in here, as the bot will kick you if you send 4 or more messages per second.
2364 [15:21:23] <cybrNaut> can i do that on my running system and only affect the /dev/sdbX devices?
2365 [15:21:39] <digitalboy> Mmm, I get: dpkg: not found
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2367 [15:21:42] <petn-randall> digitalboy: Do you have no internet connection at all?
2368 [15:21:45] <digitalboy> petn-randall: Oh, ok nice :)
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2370 [15:22:05] <petn-randall> digitalboy: "dpkg: not found" when you type what exactly? And where?
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2372 [15:22:09] <digitalboy> It is a system without a NIC (wired or wireless)
2373 [15:22:27] <digitalboy> on the ash shell on the install medium
2374 [15:22:36] <digitalboy> When trying to install Debian on the target system
2375 [15:22:57] <greycat> If you're trying to administer your Debian installation from rescue media, the second step is generally to mount the installed Debian system and chroot into it.
2376 [15:22:57] <petn-randall> digitalboy: Yeah, that won't work. I thought you're working with an already installed system.
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2378 [15:23:48] <digitalboy> petn-randall: Sadly no :( I've forget to tell you, sorry for the confusion :(
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2381 [15:25:39] <jelly> cybrNaut, mount your debian filesystem, bind-mount /dev and /proc and /sys into it, chroot into it, and then do update-initramfs ...
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2386 [15:26:35] <jelly> digitalboy, you can install the base system from the installer, that's what it's for. Afterwards you'll have dpkg and apt-get present inside that fresh installation
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2395 [15:29:04] <digitalboy> jelly: Ok, but how can I use the "fdisk" tool effectively on the Debian install medium (bootable USB stick)? At the moment fdisk is unable to display the hex codes for the partition types because "less" is missing from the install media and if I can't install less because dpkg is missing how can I solve the issue?
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2397 [15:29:35] <digitalboy> jelly: Do you think that the DVD version of Debian contains the "less" program?
2398 [15:29:37] <greycat> The installer has a guided partitioning step that you can use.
2399 [15:29:55] <jelly> digitalboy, no idea, probably
2400 [15:30:09] <greycat> Why are you typing fdisk|less if you know that less is missing?
2401 [15:30:25] <digitalboy> greycat: Yeah but I like the idea of further "customize" my system
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2403 [15:30:38] <greycat> Just get the base system INSTALLED, and then you can customize it to your heart's content.
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2407 [15:31:13] <digitalboy> greycat: I'm not typing fdisk | less, I think that the fdisk program calls "less" when trying to display the hex partition types with the "L" command
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2409 [15:31:28] <jelly> digitalboy, that's a bug then
2410 [15:31:30] <greycat> Then don't type the "L" command.
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2418 [15:32:46] <jelly> digitalboy, perhaps there's parted or gdisk or cfdisk available instead of fdisk.
2419 [15:32:46] <greycat> The installer is a notoriously poor rescue medium. It's missing a lot of the commands that people would want to use during a rescue operation.
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2423 [15:33:55] <jelly> digitalboy, are you going for MBR or GPT format?
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2426 [15:34:16] <digitalboy> jelly: Understood :)
2427 [15:34:20] <mertyildiran> How can I specify a configuration like "install all Depends automatically" in Debian control file?
2428 [15:34:21] <jelly> gpt. So parted or gdisk.
2429 [15:34:39] <digitalboy> greycat: Ok, maybe I should "prepare" the disk with another Linux flavour and then fire the Debian installer :)
2430 [15:34:50] <digitalboy> jelly: GPT on UEFI system
2431 [15:34:54] <jelly> mertyildiran, anything you list in Depends is always installed automatically.
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2433 [15:34:58] <greycat> Are you really unable to get the disk partitioned the way you want, using the Debian installer?
2434 [15:34:59] <jelly> if needed
2435 [15:35:08] <jelly> (if it's not installed already)
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2438 [15:36:44] <mertyildiran> jelly: But it says "Package python-nltk is not installed." python-nltk listed in Depends: in control file. I'm installing the package with sudo dpkg -i mypackage.deb
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2441 [15:37:23] <jelly> mertyildiran, that's dpkg's problem, not a problem in your package. Run "apt-get -f install" after that.
2442 [15:37:28] <greycat> If you manually install with dpkg -i, try adding --force-depends and then doing apt-get -f install, afterward.
2443 [15:37:41] <mertyildiran> jelly: it's not automatically installing. This is the control file (replaced-url
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2445 [15:37:54] <greycat> mertyildiran: dpkg -i does not bring in dependencies. apt-get does.
2446 [15:38:06] <digitalboy> jelly: I'm currently using this install media "debian-9.0.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso" but neither gdisk and parted are present :( only fdisk
2447 [15:38:10] <jelly> mertyildiran, show the complete commands and output of your "dpkg -i ....deb; apt-get -f install"
2448 [15:38:14] <jelly> !paste
2449 [15:38:14] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: replaced-url
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2452 [15:38:31] <digitalboy> jelly: Maybe I can customize the install ISO and manually add gdisk and parted?
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2454 [15:38:45] <digitalboy> Or other needed programs
2455 [15:38:49] <greycat> People are god damned NUTS.
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2457 [15:39:07] <mertyildiran> jelly: greycat hmm so there is no way to install force automatic install on dpkg. Thank you guys :)
2458 [15:39:12] <cybrNaut> jelly: thanks.. btw, i did "update-initramfs -u" (assuming -u is appropriate) and I had to bind mount /boot since it's a separate partition
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2461 [15:39:22] <cybrNaut> will try booting now.. brb
2462 [15:39:26] <jelly> mertyildiran, dpkg is a low-level tool. It does not even know about repos.
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2464 [15:39:51] <jelly> digitalboy, or use a better livecd/liveusb.
2465 [15:39:58] <jelly> grml.org is not bad.
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2467 [15:40:10] <mertyildiran> jelly: greycat by the way "apt-get -y install" seems not working in preinst. What is the actual reason?
2468 [15:40:13] <greycat> Or just use the built-in partitioning step of the installer.
2469 [15:40:23] <digitalboy> jelly: Ok, I'll follow your advice, thank you for the help guys, have a nice day :)
2470 [15:40:26] <mertyildiran> Is it prevented by some kind of mechanism?
2471 [15:40:42] <jelly> mertyildiran, you can't use dpkg or apt inside installation scripts
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2473 [15:40:57] <jelly> because at that point dpkg is already running
2474 [15:41:15] <jelly> (and it keeps a lock file)
2475 [15:41:20] <digitalboy> greycat: I would like to use it but it won't allow me to specify only the partition I want, it always creates that 1MB alignment partition
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2477 [15:41:28] <greycat> ....
2478 [15:41:29] <greycat> ....
2479 [15:41:32] <greycat> *plonk*
2480 [15:41:39] <jelly> digitalboy, so let it create that, and delete it after installation?
2481 [15:41:39] <mertyildiran> jelly: OK I understand now. That was reason of lock error, thank you so much!
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2483 [15:42:14] <digitalboy> jelly: Ok but then can I move "to the left" the other partitions?
2484 [15:42:21] <jelly> digitalboy, no.
2485 [15:42:25] <digitalboy> jelly: Eh..
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2489 [15:43:15] <jelly> digitalboy, this is intentional to keep compatibility space for boot loader right at the beginning if the disk.
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2493 [15:43:54] <digitalboy> jelly: Yeah, petn-randall told me that :)
2494 [15:44:08] <jelly> even if UEFI doesn't strictly need it, machine that has both MBR bios and UEFI wouldn't be able to boot off this disk in legacy MBR mode
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2496 [15:44:44] <jelly> having bcakward compat options is useful, you never know what might break to force you to use it
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2498 [15:45:18] <jelly> and if you need 1MiB extra space, maybe consider buying a larger disk
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2500 [15:45:27] <digitalboy> jelly: Understood, in my case I have a "pure" UEFI machine so I prefer to partition the disk that way :) Thank you again for the help, I'm downloading grml right now :)
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2502 [15:45:34] <digitalboy> jelly: Ahah :D
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2504 [15:45:59] <jelly> in short, making this work is way more trouble than it's worth
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2506 [15:46:35] <petn-randall> digitalboy: You've probably wasted more disk space with these IRC logs than you'll ever gain by shifting the disk alignment.
2507 [15:47:12] <jelly> digitalboy, if you really care about using as much space as possible, boot off a usb stick or SD card and don't partition the disk _at all_, use the whole disk for LVM or a single filesystem
2508 [15:47:17] <LordENKI> :) backup your irclogs to tape
2509 [15:47:21] <digitalboy> petn-randall: that is surely true :D but the knowledge gained is worth it :)
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2513 [15:47:39] <greycat> Iomega ZIP disks!
2514 [15:47:47] <LordENKI> No those only have 100mb
2515 [15:47:48] <jelly> click of death
2516 [15:47:55] <LordENKI> Tape is still used
2517 [15:47:56] <digitalboy> jelly: I don't care about disk space, I only like the possibility of customizing the system before and during the installation
2518 [15:48:07] <LordENKI> For backup tape is perfect.... Who trusts the cloud?
2519 [15:48:21] <LordENKI> And backing up to disks? How is this for reliability
2520 [15:48:28] <jelly> tape is prohibitively expensive
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2523 [15:48:51] <petn-randall> digitalboy: There are better ways to customize? It'll only cause more trouble in the long run.
2524 [15:49:03] <jelly> LordENKI, sata disks are cheaper than LTO tape until about 100TB of data
2525 [15:49:04] <LordENKI> but tape is soo expensive. New tech allows drive up to storage between 150-200tb iirc
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2529 [15:49:49] <LordENKI> the 2tb lto4/6 go for $1500..$2000
2530 [15:49:49] <petn-randall> jelly: LTO really is cheaper at some point?
2531 [15:49:51] <LordENKI> yet i want one
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2533 [15:49:58] <jelly> LordENKI, where
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2535 [15:50:17] <LordENKI> jelly: netherlands. i can check for exact prices if you want , this is just an estimate
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2537 [15:50:31] <theseb> what are options to put linux on a new Windows laptop w/o risking
2538 [15:50:32] <theseb> b0rking the Windows drive?
2539 [15:50:48] <jelly> I'll buy two LTO6 drives for $2k right now
2540 [15:50:57] <greycat> Backup the Windows partition, then shrink it.
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2542 [15:51:22] <jelly> last time I looked, LTO5 was starting at $5000
2543 [15:51:22] <tremolo> theseb: Buy another hard drive, swap it in and install Linux.
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2545 [15:51:36] <LordENKI> jelly: you're absolutely right. disks are m ultra cheap for large dumps and backups
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2548 [15:51:57] <LordENKI> jelly: but rotating disks looks a bit silly to me personally :)
2549 [15:52:04] <theseb> hmmm...shrinking Windows partitition sounds dangerous no?
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2551 [15:52:20] <theseb> i could buy a 2nd drive but this one is a nice SSD..guess i should suck it up
2552 [15:52:25] <greycat> theseb: I've done it many times (albeit not recently on a laptop)
2553 [15:52:26] <LordENKI> I actually have storage containers for 3.5" and 2.5 " disks , plastic storage containers for that purpose
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2556 [15:53:00] <tremolo> Could also put Linux in a VM on Windows, depending on use case.
2557 [15:53:07] <theseb> greycat: not only much you shrink the partition but then you need to pray you can switch to grub w/o b0rking the Windows no?
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2563 [15:53:55] <LordENKI> yet i have almost no storage , nothing here beyond a default install. wise tactics .. It's just the geeky thing of wanting to have a LTO6 streamer and wanting to have a 20tb raid NAS
2564 [15:54:26] <LordENKI> back to debtalk
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2566 [15:54:35] <jelly> petn-randall, yes, -> #debian-offtopic
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2569 [15:55:30] <cybrNaut> jelly: you fixed the problem.. thanks. wish I could tell you where to send the invoice, but I live in mom's basement
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2572 [15:57:33] <cybrNaut> i did have to do 2 iterations of "update-initramfs -u", once in chroot and once after a real boot
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2574 [15:57:41] <jelly> cybrNaut, help provided here in the public channel is free, thanks anyway
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2576 [15:58:04] <jelly> yeah, that's the safest thing to do
2577 [15:58:24] <LordENKI> there's always bitcoins....... till the big 1th August dipslide
2578 [15:58:34] <jelly> cybrNaut, if you didn't have a livecd to boot off, you'd have to /msg dpkg initramfs debug
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2581 [15:58:59] <jelly> LordENKI, we have #debian-offtopic for chat that is not tech support
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2599 [16:04:42] <nvz> I just added a line in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh on stretch with systemd, can I expect this to be run on boot and not be reverted or ignored?
2600 [16:05:08] <jelly> !tias
2601 [16:05:08] <dpkg> TIAS is "Try It And See".
2602 [16:05:32] <nvz> fair enough.. /me does an init 6
2603 [16:05:36] <BluesKaj> Hi all
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2614 [16:09:54] <nvz> well the answer is, it ignored bootmisc.sh which previously was ran at the end of the boot sequence in other versions of debian
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2616 [16:10:52] <petn-randall> nvz: Guess you know the answer now.
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2619 [16:11:58] <nvz> I certainly do
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2626 [16:14:43] <nvz> so how do I make a new "unit" is this just create a script /etc/init.d/myscript and systemctl myscript enable ?
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2639 [16:19:16] <jelly> nvz, if you're doing a sysvinit script, it absolutely needs to have the lsb header stuff to work with systemd
2640 [16:20:15] <jelly> before doing enable, you also need a "systemctl daemon-reload" so it rereads any changes (or a reboot)
2641 [16:20:17] <nvz> jelly: yes I am familiar with the header
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2648 [16:22:01] <nvz> jelly: so this deamon-reload just reads all the scripts in /etc/init.d/ ? because I noticed it doesnt take arguments
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2650 [16:24:00] <jelly> it rereads every piece of systemd config it can find
2651 [16:24:22] <jelly> that includes unit generators for sysv init scripts
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2670 [16:32:43] <nvz> so the main system stuff is in /lib/systemd/system/ and user stuff in /usr/lib/systemd/user/ then? so the fact that I just accidentally pressed the wrong key and overwrote /etc/init.d/ssh I was using to make a header template to save typing the whole header, doesn't matter anymore, I can just delete that right? Because the packages are all using these new files not the old sysvinit files?
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2674 [16:34:03] <nvz> I gather this because when I did apt-get --reinstall install openssh-server it didn't replace the file
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2684 [16:36:22] <DebianUser89457> jelly: I installed the cifs utils but seems that i can't do the job :\
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2687 [16:37:59] <petn-randall> nvz: If you delete config files, dpkg will remember that and *not* create them again on reinstallation.
2688 [16:38:13] <greycat> !confmiss
2689 [16:38:13] <dpkg> You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>.
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2693 [16:39:12] <petn-randall> That's the factoid I just looked up, heh :)
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2696 [16:39:49] <petn-randall> nvz: custom unit files go to /etc/systemd/system/ and override any default ones provided.
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2698 [16:40:06] <nvz> yes I didn't delete it I modified it, much like I've modified my sshd_config. It asked about sshd_config and I told it to leave it alone because I've disabled passwords and pam and root logins but it didnt ask at all about /etc/init.d/ssh so I figured it was just a remanent from jessie
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2700 [16:41:13] <nvz> basically I'm asking if I even need an /etc/init.d/ssh file anymore or if I can just delete it since I mucked it up
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2702 [16:41:53] <nvz> it seems to me like this systemd has these unit files and the /etc/init.d scripts arent necessary
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2704 [16:42:29] <Ke> it's not always the case strictly
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2706 [16:43:05] <Ke> in general yes, /etc/init.d is nothing special to systemd, but unit files can use init scripts
2707 [16:43:31] <nvz> well the way I understand things is that if I modified a file that the package installs it should have asked me, so the fact that it didn't suggested to me that openssh-server no longer needs that file and the only reason I had one was because I upgraded from jessie
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2709 [16:43:50] <greycat> That's not quite right. In the *absence* of a unit file, systemd will use /etc/init.d/* scripts as poor substitutes.
2710 [16:44:02] <greycat> Like with apache2 on jessie.
2711 [16:44:14] <Ke> if you have well-maintained system, you can run aptitude purge ~c
2712 [16:44:26] <Ke> which may remove some of the cruft problems
2713 [16:44:44] <greycat> arc3:~# systemctl status apache2
2714 [16:44:44] <greycat> ● apache2.service - LSB: Apache2 web server
2715 [16:44:44] <greycat> Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/apache2)
2716 [16:44:48] <teraflops> nvz: why deleting it? the file uses 4K of space…
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2721 [16:45:27] <teraflops> greycat: stretch ships a proper systemd unit file for apache
2722 [16:45:31] <petn-randall> nvz: Just because it didn't ask to overwrite that file on reinstallation doesn't mean it's not used. I think you have a misconception of how conffiles are supposed to work.
2723 [16:45:36] <nvz> teraflops: yes well in this case I'm trying out my training wheels by just trying to run some commands at boot using an old sysv init script with systemd, and in the process I fudged up /etc/init.d/ssh by pressing save instead of save as after I yanked out everything but the header portion
2724 [16:45:52] <greycat> Yeah, but that was a jessie system up there. Showing that systemd will directly use /etc/init.d/apache2 in the absence of a proper unti file.
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2726 [16:46:10] <teraflops> greycat: yeah, I agree
2727 [16:46:42] <nvz> so the script is at best case now useless, and at worst case going to break ssh
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2732 [16:47:47] <teraflops> nvz: I dont think so, but I woudnt bother myself for a 4k plaintext file
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2734 [16:48:02] <teraflops> wouldn't^
2735 [16:48:13] <nvz> I'm not at all concerned about the f'n size of the file, I hosed it.. its no longer what it was
2736 [16:48:17] <nvz> heh
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2739 [16:48:22] <teraflops> yeah :P
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2742 [16:48:45] <nvz> I just am concerned leaving it there when its screwed up will break something
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2746 [16:49:09] <hicks__> pull a copy back from a backup or uninstall, reinstall ssh to get it back to normal?
2747 [16:49:19] <teraflops> iirc by default debian uses the socket unit
2748 [16:49:30] <mertyildiran> How can I add a system tray icon to my Debian package?
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2750 [16:50:15] <nvz> hicks__: yes as I just discussed that didn't do anything but warn me that the file was not LSB compliant
2751 [16:50:16] <teraflops> hmm, maybe creating a proper .desktop file?
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2753 [16:50:27] <mertyildiran> For example .desktop file adding an icon to programs. Just like that how can I add a system tray icon?
2754 [16:50:40] <hicks__> nvz: did you try a purge uninstall?
2755 [16:50:44] <teraflops> mertyildiran: yeah .desktop file
2756 [16:50:53] <nvz> hicks__: I dont want to purge, I want to keep my sshd_config
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2758 [16:50:58] <mertyildiran> teraflops: what's the configuration for system tray icon?
2759 [16:51:00] <hicks__> make a copy first
2760 [16:51:06] <teraflops> mertyildiran: just define the icon
2761 [16:51:06] <hicks__> purge, reinstall, copy back
2762 [16:51:14] <mertyildiran> teraflops: I couldn't find a guide/tutorial
2763 [16:51:21] <hicks__> or dig out a copy of the ssh file from another debian install maybe?
2764 [16:51:23] <teraflops> mertyildiran: the path that's it
2765 [16:52:03] <teraflops> mertyildiran: take a look at /usr/share/applications
2766 [16:52:09] <mertyildiran> teraflops: I already did (replaced-url
2767 [16:52:11] <nvz> hicks__: the whole point here everyone seems to have missed is I've been asking if I even need the damn file. I know how to do all the stuff you just suggested
2768 [16:52:35] <hicks__> I have no idea if you need it, but if it's that easy to restore, seems no need to worry about whether it's needed or not
2769 [16:52:43] <mertyildiran> teraflops: I'm talking about "system tray icons" (imagine the bottom left icons in Windows)
2770 [16:52:45] <teraflops> mertyildiran: Icon=
2771 [16:52:50] <hicks__> I would guess that file provides defaults for sshing out?
2772 [16:52:54] <hicks__> as a client?
2773 [16:52:59] <teraflops> mertyildiran: yeah it does not matter
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2775 [16:53:04] <teraflops> is uses same icon
2776 [16:53:04] <hicks__> oh nm init.d
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2778 [16:53:22] <nvz> hicks__: if it were that easy to restore it should have said the same thing it said when it detected my sshd_config was changed is my point
2779 [16:53:27] <mertyildiran> teraflops: when my application is opened, I can't see an icon in system tray.
2780 [16:53:31] <teraflops> nvz: I dont think --purge delete files at ~/
2781 [16:53:40] <greycat> teraflops: correct, it will not
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2783 [16:53:46] <nvz> teraflops: sshd_config is in /etc/
2784 [16:53:52] <hicks__> it's not in ~/ it's in /etc/init.d
2785 [16:53:54] <teraflops> mertyildiran: set Icon= inside the desktop file?
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2787 [16:54:11] <mertyildiran> teraflops: it's not about just adding Icon=. There is more...
2788 [16:54:22] <hicks__> but a plain reinstall may not touch a modified file ? so you'd have to move it out the way or purge uninstall first as a guess
2789 [16:54:33] <mertyildiran> teraflops: there is already look -> replaced-url
2790 [16:54:41] <hicks__> if you want to leave it alone assuming it's not needed, then I can't offer much advice on that, no idea if it is or not
2791 [16:54:47] <teraflops> nvz: yeah, sure
2792 [16:54:58] <hicks__> but if it were me, I'd try the purge/reinstall or pull a copy from another install or backu
2793 [16:54:58] <hicks__> p
2794 [16:55:32] <teraflops> mertyildiran: set the full path or put the icon in the right place I think
2795 [16:55:38] <nvz> the consensus seems to be nobody knows so I'll just figure it out :P
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2798 [16:56:24] <teraflops> mertyildiran: also maybe you need to update icon cache
2799 [16:57:00] <teraflops> idk tbh, but things like gtk-update-icon-cache do exists
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2811 [17:00:41] <mertyildiran> teraflops: OK it turns out it's completely Python related task (replaced-url
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2813 [17:01:45] <nvz> fwiw the --purge and reinstall did put the /etc/init.d/ssh back but a reinstall did not prompt to overwrite when it was modified
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2822 [17:03:23] <nvz> afaik it should have done so
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2828 [17:06:20] <jelly> nvz, you may want to read /msg dpkg confnew and /msg dpkg confmiss and related stuffs if you want to avoid purging next time
2829 [17:07:12] <jhutchins_wk> nvz: purge should remove old config files, so there's no overwrite when installing new defaults.
2830 [17:07:20] <teraflops> mertyildiran: well you have a clue now :)
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2885 [17:38:13] <savumies> Should I be aware of some specific details before upgrading a debian server from jessie to stretch?
2886 [17:38:39] <greycat> I've generally tried to consolidate everything I know on replaced-url
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2899 [17:40:10] <greycat> Most servers will probably go smoothly. The main issues we see tend to be on desktops/laptops.
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2908 [17:42:19] <savumies> ok. Thank you
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2913 [17:44:32] <MarkL> Hi guys, I use Jessie debian, do you know until when it is supported by debian bacause is an old stable version? Another question is: I use Debian on a laptop of 10 years ago more or less but still very good, do you think there is really worth to switch to the new stable debian version? I use it for mainly browse internet, and few other basic things. thanks
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2919 [17:44:55] <greycat> Full support for one year after stretch's release, so 11 more months of that. LTS support after that.
2920 [17:44:58] <petn-randall> !jessie lts
2921 [17:45:05] <neilthereildeil> hey guys. chrome is not working for me on Debian
2922 [17:45:25] <neilthereildeil> every page says aww snap. something went wrong
2923 [17:45:28] <petn-randall> huh, don't have that factoid yet.
2924 [17:45:37] <mxh-> neilthereildeil: you got internet connection i assume?
2925 [17:45:43] <mxh-> neilthereildeil: ping google.com works
2926 [17:45:44] <neilthereildeil> no, firefox works
2927 [17:45:46] <mxh-> ok
2928 [17:45:52] <neilthereildeil> im on IRC from the same machine
2929 [17:45:56] <MarkL> greycat, thanks
2930 [17:46:07] <petn-randall> MarkL: What greycat said. It might be that jessie LTS won't support browsers though, so you might be forced to upgrade at this point.
2931 [17:46:09] <neilthereildeil> i just ran apt-get upgrade chromium
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2934 [17:46:26] <neilthereildeil> but i still get this error
2935 [17:46:29] <neilthereildeil> i think its a bug?
2936 [17:46:30] <petn-randall> neilthereildeil: chrome or chromium? It's not the same.
2937 [17:46:33] <neilthereildeil> has anyone else seen this?
2938 [17:46:34] <greycat> that's not a valid command. "upgrade" doesn't take pkg name arguments.
2939 [17:46:36] <neilthereildeil> oh?
2940 [17:46:44] <tremolo> proxy settings? Don't suppose it says what went wrong?
2941 [17:46:46] <humbobo> kneelthere
2942 [17:47:03] <neilthereildeil> petn-randall: whats the difference? isnt it to google browser?
2943 [17:47:05] <mxh-> neilthereildeil: if nothing else, empty cache and delete cookies/plugin data
2944 [17:47:10] <mxh-> petn-randall: last step disable all plugins
2945 [17:47:22] <greycat> Chromium is an open-source browser based on Google-chrome, which is closed source.
2946 [17:47:28] <MarkL> petn-randall, are you talking of the browser support after 11 months from now? or maybe is now jet outdated?
2947 [17:47:57] <mxh-> actually neilthereildeil try running it in private mode and access a site
2948 [17:48:02] <MarkL> yet*
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2950 [17:48:27] <th0r> MarkL: I upgraded to stretch and ended up reinstalling jessie. Too many things either weren't there any more, or quit working
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2952 [17:48:28] <petn-randall> MarkL: I'm talking about in about 11 months. jessie still gets regular (full) security support at the moment.
2953 [17:48:40] <petn-randall> th0r: Such as?
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2956 [17:49:41] <MarkL> petn-randall, thanks
2957 [17:49:43] <th0r> well....they dumped alsa and pushed pulse, so I couldn't get audio control in the panel in xfce. The xfce mixer is no longer in the package. ifconfig wasn't there, dumped for ip. There are more...but why bother?
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2959 [17:49:53] <Mad7Scientist> Does anyone know why when I ssh from Gentoo to Debian than when I use vim my screen gets corrupted? It's just regular xterm on Gentoo
2960 [17:50:07] <greycat> If you upgraded, ifconfig (net-tools) would still be there.
2961 [17:50:08] <Mad7Scientist> shift page up doesn't work in xterm either
2962 [17:50:39] <Mad7Scientist> Why not replace ifconfig which dumps the proper ip command to use after running ifconfig?
2963 [17:50:52] <Mad7Scientist> replace it with an ifconfig that dumps
2964 [17:50:55] <greycat> huh
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2966 [17:51:09] <Mad7Scientist> That would be an interesting learning tool!
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2968 [17:51:26] <greycat> It would break systems that still actively USE ifconfig.
2969 [17:51:32] <petn-randall> th0r: ifconfig is still there. ALSA is still there, since pulseaudio is sitting on top of that. And xfce has a pulseaudio mixer.
2970 [17:51:49] <greycat> The only thing that changed is net-tools's priority got reduced, so it's not installed by default on NEW installs.
2971 [17:51:53] <Mad7Scientist> doesn't not having ifconfig break them too?
2972 [17:51:57] <Mad7Scientist> I see
2973 [17:52:01] <greycat> If you upgraded, you will still have net-tools.
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2975 [17:53:06] <th0r> petn-randall: yes, and when I installed alsa and removed pulse (which improved the audio on my old laptop a LOT) I lost the panel applet in xfce. Every time I wanted to adjust the volume I had to open up alsamixer. Ifconfig has to be fetched after install...it wasn't there with the default xfce install.
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2980 [17:53:43] <th0r> petn-randall: but it wasn't my intention to start a big discussion about all this. I just wanted to let MarkL know he might want to consider sticking with what is working
2981 [17:53:45] <greycat> This sounds like you reinstalled instead of upgrading.
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2986 [17:54:43] <MarkL> If I would like to try another linux distro which would you advice to me? Anyway I am happy with Debian for my desktop use, anyway there is some few problems due to my low knowledge of it, Ubuntu is good for me but I really don't rely on them so much and I have got some problems on the stability with Ubuntu, so I would not use it.
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2989 [17:55:34] <somiaj> MarkL: this channel is for debian support, not 'other linux distro suggestions', maybe try ##linux
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2993 [17:56:46] <MarkL> th0r, thanks
2994 [17:56:54] <MarkL> somiaj, ok thanks
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2999 [17:59:03] <petn-randall> th0r: How can you remove ALSA? It's baked into the standard Debian kernel. pulseaudio doesn't work without it.
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3004 [17:59:52] <greycat> Near as I can tell, pulseaudio is a userspace daemon that sits on top of ALSA, the same way esd used to.
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3011 [18:01:58] <z8z> Hello, why in 2017 setting up a remote desktop must be so difficult in Debian? xD
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3013 [18:02:29] <greycat> What do you, specifically, mean by "remote desktop"? XDMCP?
3014 [18:02:52] <z8z> I mean either xrdp or vnc
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3016 [18:03:16] <th0r> petn-randall: that was my understanding as well. I have used alsa for years and every time I installed pulse I ran into problems. When I uninstalled pulse from stretch I lost audio, and had to install alsa to get it back. If it was already there, I assumed apt would tell me, but maybe I was mistaken.
3017 [18:03:20] <neilthereildeil> petn-randall: how can i install google chrome?
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3022 [18:04:25] <th0r> petn-randall: like I said...I didn't bring it up to start a debate. I run debian not to get the bleeding edge stuff, but because I don't want to keep working at getting updates to run. I will stick with jessie...lts is fine with me. (I know...the next release of the software is going to solve ALL the world's problems)
3023 [18:04:39] <greycat> replaced-url
3024 [18:04:43] <mxh-> z8z: while i have not tried, this seems very straightforward replaced-url
3025 [18:05:15] <neilthereildeil> i dontloaded the chrom deb from google website, but im getting dep install errors
3026 [18:05:19] <greycat> Once you install the google-chrome .deb file, it adds a new apt source (in sources.list.d) so you can keep it updated.
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3029 [18:05:38] <mxh-> z8z: it's "make startup script, make service of that, enable that service"
3030 [18:05:39] <neilthereildeil> google-chrome-stable depends on libc6 (>= 2.15); however: Version of libc6:amd64 on system is 2.13-38+deb7u12
3031 [18:05:40] <greycat> If it's just dependencies, use apt-get -f install
3032 [18:06:02] <greycat> neilthereildeil: you're on wheezy?
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3034 [18:06:19] <neilthereildeil> 7.11
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3036 [18:06:28] <neilthereildeil> im gonna upgrade soon
3037 [18:06:30] <greycat> I ... kinda doubt google-chrome is interested in supporting wheezy (oldoldstable).
3038 [18:06:39] <petn-randall> ,v libc6
3039 [18:06:40] <judd> Package: libc6 on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.13-38+deb7u10; wheezy-security: 2.13-38+deb7u12; jessie: 2.19-18+deb8u9; jessie-security: 2.19-18+deb8u10; stretch: 2.24-11; stretch-security: 2.24-11+deb9u1; buster: 2.24-12; sid: 2.24-12
3040 [18:06:51] <z8z> mxh-: ok will try thanks... hope i don't need to spend 1 day hacking down operating system just to set up a remote desktop :D
3041 [18:07:03] <petn-randall> neilthereildeil: I'm not even sure your desktop still gets security support.
3042 [18:07:10] <neilthereildeil> yea i do
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3044 [18:07:14] <neilthereildeil> just installed them
3045 [18:07:23] <neilthereildeil> how would i install thesde deps?
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3047 [18:07:34] <neilthereildeil> still apt-get -f install?
3048 [18:07:35] <greycat> neilthereildeil: you do't.
3049 [18:07:48] <petn-randall> neilthereildeil: If Google doesn't provide packages for wheezy, you're stuck and need to upgrade.
3050 [18:07:53] <greycat> If it wants a newer libc6, that means you upgrade the OS or you forget it.
3051 [18:08:01] <neilthereildeil> ah ok
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3053 [18:08:46] <mxh-> z8z: nah making systemd service seems daunting but it's really not
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3065 [18:12:58] <warai_otoko> Hello!
3066 [18:13:09] <DebianUser89457> hello
3067 [18:13:11] <DebianUser89457> just a question
3068 [18:13:14] <DebianUser89457> is NFS reliable ?
3069 [18:13:22] <DebianUser89457> i mean instead of use sshfs in a lan fashion
3070 [18:13:32] <DebianUser89457> i have to move 8 TB of data
3071 [18:13:37] <warai_otoko> I tried hard to get openVPN and Mullvad to run on Debian 8.8 with LXDE
3072 [18:13:39] <DebianUser89457> use sshfs caps me to 20MB/s
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3075 [18:14:02] <warai_otoko> I see wifi icon with a keylock
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3077 [18:14:15] <warai_otoko> openVPN is running too
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3079 [18:14:40] <warai_otoko> but I can't use Internet, browsers and ping don't work
3080 [18:14:48] <warai_otoko> what am I missing??
3081 [18:15:13] <warai_otoko> also, I got 2 tun interfaces, tun0 and tun1. Why?
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3084 [18:16:36] <th0r> warai_otoko: I have seen two tun interfaces once in a while. It happens when I invoke openvpn, but forgot that I already had it running.
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3086 [18:17:58] <warai_otoko> @th0r: I installed/uninstalled openvpn several times. Both tun seem standard here. I don't get it
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3089 [18:18:40] <warai_otoko> also, is there a standard firewall which needs to be configured for openVPN? if so, how?
3090 [18:18:55] <th0r> warai_otoko: you don't have to uninstall it. just 'sudo killall openvpn' and they should both go away. and firewall is a separate thing from vpn
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3093 [18:19:32] <th0r> warai_otoko: how are you starting the vpn? You might have inadvertently called the script twice, or invoked from two different scripts.
3094 [18:19:33] <warai_otoko> @th0r: well, it's running, all green
3095 [18:19:40] <warai_otoko> why kill it?
3096 [18:20:01] <th0r> warai_otoko: I thought you said it wasn't working, and you have two tun's. If that is what you want....no problem
3097 [18:20:31] <warai_otoko> how can I debug this thing? Console and NetworkManager show all is good and running which just isn't the case
3098 [18:20:47] <warai_otoko> I don't need tun1
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3100 [18:20:56] <warai_otoko> that's what I meant
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3102 [18:21:15] <teraflops> warai_otoko: the lxde and mullvad bits are not clear
3103 [18:21:16] <petn-randall> warai_otoko: "it's running, all green". Define "it".
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3106 [18:21:56] <warai_otoko> systemctl list-units | grep vpn
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3109 [18:22:09] <warai_otoko> loaded active running
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3111 [18:22:26] <teraflops> warai_otoko: standard way of debugging vpn this should be pinging the gateway by ip
3112 [18:22:28] <warai_otoko> that's the status here, looks good to me...
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3114 [18:23:30] <warai_otoko> systemctl status openvpn: all green (active, exited)
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3117 [18:24:24] <teraflops> warai_otoko: try harder...
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3121 [18:25:11] <warai_otoko> @th0r: ?
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3123 [18:25:40] <warai_otoko> I got another box here with Kali, same problem:
3124 [18:25:47] <th0r> warai_otoko: you know what my suggestion is. Shut down both tun's, start just one, and try pinging there
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3126 [18:26:15] <warai_otoko> next reboot both tuns will be there again
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3128 [18:26:44] <th0r> warai_otoko: no....don't reboot. Jeez....pay some attention
3129 [18:27:30] <th0r> warai_otoko: I suspect you are starting two instances, by mistake, but ... so shut them down with killall, invoke one on a command line, and see if the problems disappear
3130 [18:28:23] <warai_otoko> @th0r: let's try it your way, worth a try. Hold on a sec...
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3135 [18:29:36] <teraflops> warai_otoko: btw th0r is not channel operator and this is not twitter ;)
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3137 [18:30:21] <warai_otoko> @teraflops: thank you, this is very kind
3138 [18:30:42] <th0r> warai_otoko: it isn't necessarily a good idea to try starting the vpn at boot. Bring up the network and then start the vpn, either via network manager or a script. I use scripts, had problems getting network mangler to do openvpn
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3140 [18:31:18] <warai_otoko> okay: 1) ping my gateway, unreachable
3141 [18:32:00] <th0r> warai_otoko: with just one tun? you CAN ping it without the vpn, right? with no tun
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3144 [18:32:17] <warai_otoko> wait pls...
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3148 [18:32:50] <warai_otoko> iwconfig shows both tuns, as expected
3149 [18:33:05] <th0r> warai_otoko: how did you start the vpn this time?
3150 [18:33:10] <warai_otoko> shutting down now as th0r suggested...
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3152 [18:34:04] <warai_otoko> OK, killall openvpn, no VPN anymore. Now?
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3154 [18:34:35] <th0r> warai_otoko: can you ping the gateway? And again...are you using the local gateway? try pinging google.
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3156 [18:34:56] <th0r> warai_otoko: 'ping google.com' and make sure you can get it without the vpn.
3157 [18:34:57] <warai_otoko> ping works, wifi working
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3159 [18:35:35] <th0r> warai_otoko: then you can invoke the vpn with a command like...."sudo openvpn --daemon --cd /etc/openvpn --config 'east.ovpn'". make sure your .ovpn is in /etc/openvpn
3160 [18:35:50] <teraflops> warai_otoko: explaining your setup in detail would help. including config files on server and client side (if they contain sensible data edit them prior sending them to a pastebin site)
3161 [18:36:00] <warai_otoko> no, Mullvad uses .conf files...
3162 [18:36:23] <teraflops> idk what mullvad is
3163 [18:36:31] <teraflops> ,v mullvad
3164 [18:36:32] <judd> No package named 'mullvad' was found in amd64.
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3166 [18:36:47] <warai_otoko> @teraflops: GIYF, Mullvad too
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3168 [18:37:04] <th0r> mullvad is a vpn service
3169 [18:37:34] <teraflops> is it a paid one?
3170 [18:37:40] <warai_otoko> jep
3171 [18:37:55] <teraflops> then I suppose they offer support too
3172 [18:38:05] * petn-randall guesses the same.
3173 [18:38:37] <warai_otoko> it's no problem with my VPN provider:
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3175 [18:39:02] <warai_otoko> all my Androids and my laptop work flawlessly
3176 [18:39:03] <teraflops> oh well, then where's the problem?
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3179 [18:39:15] <warai_otoko> Debian is the problem
3180 [18:39:23] <teraflops> then consider not using it
3181 [18:39:31] <warai_otoko> the box here is PowerPC
3182 [18:39:37] <th0r> wouldn't want to just fix it
3183 [18:39:44] <warai_otoko> the other a AMD64 laptop
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3185 [18:40:08] <warai_otoko> both use distributions with Debian as their base
3186 [18:40:21] <warai_otoko> one with LXDE and one with KDE
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3189 [18:40:26] <petn-randall> warai_otoko: What distro are they really then?
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3194 [18:40:40] <warai_otoko> no connection possible over more than a few minutes
3195 [18:41:02] <warai_otoko> Kali & Red Ribbon
3196 [18:41:19] <teraflops> so youre having problems with a 3rd party vpn service (not debian related) running non debian systems?
3197 [18:41:45] <petn-randall> warai_otoko: Then ask in their support channels. We don't support derivatives in here for a number of technical and social reasons.
3198 [18:41:49] <petn-randall> !based on
3199 [18:41:49] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare replaced-url
3200 [18:42:23] <warai_otoko> it's Debian 8.8
3201 [18:42:27] <teraflops> warai_otoko: and it tooks like 20 minutes getting such sensible information...
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3203 [18:42:56] <warai_otoko> serious??
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3208 [18:43:13] <teraflops> of course I am
3209 [18:43:22] <greycat> warai_otoko: no, it was 30 minutes.
3210 [18:43:27] <warai_otoko> then go FY
3211 [18:43:35] <petn-randall> Fank you?
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3214 [18:43:55] <Bsadowski1> Hmm, it *was* mentioned when he joined,
3215 [18:43:57] <discovered> hi
3216 [18:44:08] <teraflops> Bsadowski1: what was mentioned
3217 [18:44:10] <Bsadowski1> <warai_otoko> I tried hard to get openVPN and Mullvad to run on Debian 8.8 with LXDE
3218 [18:44:21] <discovered> I have 32GB RAM. How much swap should i create?
3219 [18:44:36] <petn-randall> Bsadowski1: Well, they lied. It's Kali and Red Ribbon, both two entirely different distros.
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3221 [18:44:42] <teraflops> Bsadowski1: that wasnt accurate
3222 [18:44:44] <discovered> Debian automatically created 34 GB
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3224 [18:44:51] <Bsadowski1> oh :P
3225 [18:45:00] <FinalX> discovered: depends on what you use your system for, but in most cases you don't really need a big swap at all
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3227 [18:45:32] <petn-randall> discovered: If you want to suspend to disk it should be a little larger than the amount of RAM you have.
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3229 [18:45:54] <discovered> 300 GB SSD for debian, 32 GB RAM. creating 34 GB swap on ssd is a lot. How much it should be?
3230 [18:45:59] <FinalX> petn-randall: that used to be the cast, but in more recent versions it can also suspend to disk to a file on your normal filesystem iirc
3231 [18:46:10] <FinalX> case*
3232 [18:46:32] <discovered> I i see
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3234 [18:46:54] <FinalX> on servers it's not necessary at all as you won't be doing that
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3264 [19:07:10] <digitalboy> How can I disable the GRUB2 Debian theme?
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3266 [19:07:45] <debroooo> I can't find a way to add write permission for myself when mounting a partition. Any help please? I usually just use `sudo mount /dev/sd6 /media/sda6` and then I keep using sudo for editing the partition files. But I need to use rsync through ssh to copy a few files so I need the permissions for my own account.
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3269 [19:07:59] <greycat> What KIND of file system is it? Unix or Windows?
3270 [19:08:55] <debroooo> greycat: ext4
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3273 [19:09:23] <greycat> Then the permissions are *inside* the file system. You have to do chown/chmod/chgrp on the files after mounting.
3274 [19:09:50] <greycat> There isn't any "mount this but fudge all the permissions to make me king of the universe" option for Unix file systems like there is for Windows file systems.
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3281 [19:12:09] <debroooo> greycat: Thanks. I don't have a good understanding of file systems unfortunately.
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3285 [19:13:36] <Guest95518> how do install wine in the new kali linux thou
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3287 [19:14:48] <nvz> Guest95518: this is #debian, #kali is what you are looking for
3288 [19:14:59] <Guest95518> sorry
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3306 [19:19:46] <cusco> hey... if I add a ip host in /etc/hosts, shouldn't the O.S. avoid dns lookups to the nameserver in resolv.conf ?
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3314 [19:25:40] <epsilon> yes
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3320 [19:28:49] <sypher> Not always.
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3322 [19:29:11] <sypher> But in general, that is true.
3323 [19:29:26] <greycat> Depends on the program. Some of them use nsswitch and will therefore do what you want. Others just do a straight DNS lookup without even trying anything else.
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3332 [19:36:26] <cusco> yes I checked /etc/nsswitch.conf and it states: hosts: files dns
3333 [19:36:49] <greycat> Right, and programs like ping respect that, but programs like dig don't.
3334 [19:37:16] <debroooo> Thanks again greycat. `sudo mount /dev/sda6 /media/sda6 && sudo chmod o+w /media/sda6` works like a charm!
3335 [19:37:26] <cusco> however, we just installed pihole.. some web ui on top of dnsmasq .. as a dns server, and I'm seeing requests for hostnames in the /etc/hosts from this machine
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3337 [19:37:44] <cusco> this magine runs some network monitoring thingie that uses fping and snmwalk and others
3338 [19:37:49] <cusco> machine
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3367 [19:50:02] <testser> test
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3373 [19:51:55] <teraflops> [OK]
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3388 [19:55:36] <astartoth> Hi all. I'm having a problem with kaccounts-providers. It isn't showing me my google account.
3389 [19:56:08] <astartoth> What is it that I have to install in order to get kaccounts-integration to work?
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3404 [19:59:54] <forcerecon> why chrome? too later nvm
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3408 [20:00:43] <Lyberta> do I need to create a new user for ecryptfs-migrate-home?
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3459 [20:18:18] <pclover> I have a question. I've been upgrading my debian install with apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
3460 [20:18:25] <pclover> is there a shorter command for this?
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3463 [20:18:48] <greycat> You can use "apt" instead of "apt-get" if you're starting from jessie or newer.
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3466 [20:19:06] <pclover> ah what's the difference
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3470 [20:19:27] <JPT> apt contains the most frequently used commands "think of it as a shortcut"
3471 [20:19:28] <greycat> The main one: apt removes .deb files from the cache afterward, by default. apt-get leaves them.
3472 [20:19:28] <nvz> -get
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3475 [20:19:42] <JPT> ... oh. :|
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3477 [20:19:46] <pclover> that's nice feature
3478 [20:19:46] <JPT> *takes notes*
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3483 [20:22:16] <hanasaki> this page says that debain 9 was delayed to be released with kernel 4.10 however it has 4.9 in it. could you explain please? replaced-url
3484 [20:22:28] <greycat> Did you read farther down?
3485 [20:22:37] <hanasaki> yes. just found it. sorry
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3491 [20:23:59] <zuiss1> is anyone here running firefox release on stretch?
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3495 [20:24:17] <greycat> !anyone
3496 [20:24:17] <dpkg> Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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3498 [20:24:30] <zuiss1> mozilla.debian.net doesn't have a release version for debian stable and i want to check before downloading directly from mozilla
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3516 [20:27:54] <hanasaki> booting a debian live usb stick . the screen , before grub, is black with a solid underscore cursor in the top left. what causes this and what is the fix?
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3525 [20:29:13] <pclover> what that channel limit about?
3526 [20:29:17] <pclover> the only channel i see i set on
3527 [20:29:21] <pclover> it
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3529 [20:29:43] <greycat> Thin protection against join floods.
3530 [20:29:48] <pclover> ah
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3536 [20:31:12] <forcerecon> is there a version of stacer for debian?
3537 [20:31:12] <forcerecon> looks kinda nice
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3550 [20:36:18] <forcerecon> replaced-url
3551 [20:36:18] <forcerecon> got it
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3560 [20:42:31] <kchr> zuiss1: i think the stable release of firefox is available through the debian repos
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3563 [20:42:51] <kchr> i am using the `firefox-esr` package myself, straight from stretch repos
3564 [20:42:51] <zuiss1> kchr: i don't think so. only firefox-esr is
3565 [20:42:57] <greycat> He doesn't want the stable version. He wants the "release" version which has a slightly higher number.
3566 [20:43:04] <kchr> ah, all right.
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3601 [20:57:36] <mason_> Hi, I need help with installing Debian on my Qosmio G15
3602 [20:57:41] <mender27> Evening, is there a default Debian-preferred way of managing wireless WPA-encrypted connections?
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3604 [20:58:05] <mason_> It won't detect my disk drives, and I need to know which driver I need. Would any of you guys know?
3605 [20:58:18] <kchr> mender27: network-manager or wicd are two popular choices
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3607 [20:58:33] <kchr> the former is usually installed by most graphical environments
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3612 [20:59:44] <mender27> kchr, I understand, but I noticed NetworkManager isn't really a default in Debian so I assumed there might be a different tool for that.
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3615 [21:00:11] <teraflops> mender27: nor wicd
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3617 [21:00:25] <mender27> teraflops, right :)
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3619 [21:00:39] <jmcnaught> mender27: there isn't a single default. GNOME, KDE and probably others use NetworkManager. Look at replaced-url
3620 [21:01:23] <teraflops> but if you change of AP all the time /e/n/i or plain wpa_supplicant is annoying as hell
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3624 [21:03:04] <jmcnaught> mender27: NetworkManager is good, I would use it unless it doesn't integrate well with the desktop or window manager that you use
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3626 [21:03:24] <teraflops> you can use nmtui too
3627 [21:03:33] <mason_> Does anybody know the Toshiba Disk Drive Drivers
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3629 [21:03:48] <teraflops> or even nmcli
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3632 [21:05:27] <mutante> mason_: did you see the results for google "linux on Qosmio G15" yet? there seem to be a couple where people asked and then got it resolved
3633 [21:05:51] <mutante> "cant install" "going crazy with" etc
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3635 [21:07:02] <teraflops> heh
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3640 [21:07:57] <_Wise__> hi *
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3645 [21:09:49] <GNU\colossus> hmm, what's the bot command to check probable "backportability" of packages in here again?
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3648 [21:10:07] <_Wise__> I need to install kubenetes on Debian stretch, problem is that docker 1.12 (!) is required for this.
3649 [21:10:22] <_Wise__> how can I install docker 1.12 on Stretch ?
3650 [21:10:28] <jmcnaught> GNU\colossus: replaced-url
3651 [21:10:40] <GNU\colossus> isn't docker just a fat Go binary, statically linked?
3652 [21:10:49] <GNU\colossus> jmcnaught, thanks
3653 [21:10:51] <_Wise__> GNU\colossus: kindof
3654 [21:11:32] <rlange_> _Wise__: docker makes a repo for Debian including stretch. Recommend you blacklist docker.io (if it's even still a package in debian) and use the docker repo
3655 [21:11:36] <GNU\colossus> judd, checkbackport redis-server --fromrelease sid --torelease jessie
3656 [21:11:37] <judd> Backporting package redis-server in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, jessie-backports.
3657 [21:11:57] <jmcnaught> GNU\colossus: like i said, you can use it in /msg
3658 [21:12:00] <GNU\colossus> pbuilder fails me with: Err replaced-url
3659 [21:12:08] <_Wise__> rlange_: ok, blacklisting will be the way, I give it a try
3660 [21:12:21] <GNU\colossus> what am I doing wrong?
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3662 [21:12:37] <GNU\colossus> jmcnaught, thanks, I just wanted it to actually broadcast that terse bit of info :)
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3665 [21:13:18] <jmcnaught> GNU\colossus: you need to "apt update"?
3666 [21:13:22] <mender27> jmcnaught, I use Openbox, so it's alright, but apparently when NetworkManager is enabled via systemd, I lose Internet connection or the nm-applet icon says that the Ethernet connection is not managed.
3667 [21:13:47] <GNU\colossus> jmcnaught, you mean inside pbuilder's resulting environment? how?
3668 [21:13:58] <jmcnaught> mender27: do you also have your interfaces configured in /etc/network/interfaces?
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3670 [21:14:34] <mender27> jmcnaught, ah, yes, indeed.
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3674 [21:15:11] <jmcnaught> mender27: on Debian NetworkManager is configured to not manage interfaces defined there
3675 [21:15:15] <mender27> jmcnaught, I'm assuming if I do that then the "ifupdown" scripts manage it?
3676 [21:15:48] <mender27> jmcnaught, I see. I commented out the interface and will see after a reboot whether this was enough
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3681 [21:17:12] <jmcnaught> GNU\colossus: "pbuilder update" according to the man page
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3684 [21:18:09] <mender27> Erm, if I would like to contribute to Debian in terms of package testing, the bugzilla is the place to "hunt bugs", correct?
3685 [21:18:16] <jmcnaught> mason_: this laptop, it's 12 years old? what Debian installer image ISO are you using (link please…)?
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3690 [21:18:56] <jmcnaught> mender27: it's not bugzilla, but yes replaced-url
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3698 [21:21:48] <mender27> jmcnaught, sorry, old habits from working with Fedora :).
3699 [21:22:12] <GNU\colossus> jmcnaught, that indeed seems to have fixed it. thanks for the pointer :)
3700 [21:22:27] <GNU\colossus> (this pbuilder cache is a tad _too_ sticky for my tastes...)
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3706 [21:23:03] <mason_> jmcnaught, im using the latest netinstall
3707 [21:23:13] <mason_> i think i may have fixed it now, i made the cd rom a priority
3708 [21:23:15] <mason_> in bios
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3710 [21:23:44] <mason_> and yes, it is 12 years old. it was my dad's old machine
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3714 [21:24:59] <mender27> 12 years old ain't bad, I myself still run Linux on 10+ year old Dell hardware :).
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3720 [21:25:55] <jmcnaught> yeah it'll probably work if all of the hardware is still functional
3721 [21:26:01] <mason_> i had a latitude d610 for a while haha, i installed mint on it and the wireless network never worked after that...
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3723 [21:26:46] <mender27> mason_, I did also have a d610, but apart from that a d820 and an E5500 :). Some ran Debian the best.
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3725 [21:27:01] <mason_> damn, it still won't detect the disks
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3728 [21:28:01] <DotScreen> What kind hardware are u trying to?
3729 [21:28:11] <mason_> toshiba qosmio g15
3730 [21:28:23] <mason_> just the driver name
3731 [21:28:43] <mender27> mason_, are you trying to install via usb or cd-rom / dvd?
3732 [21:28:48] <mason_> cd rom
3733 [21:28:48] <jmcnaught> mason_: what doesn't detech whic disks?
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3735 [21:28:58] <mason_> the installer doesn't detect the hard disk
3736 [21:28:58] <_Wise__> rlange_: you made my day ! thanks
3737 [21:29:14] <mason_> wait no dvd* my bad
3738 [21:29:31] <mender27> mason_, pastebin relevant dmesg snippet? :)
3739 [21:29:33] <DotScreen> it can't detect on the installation?
3740 [21:29:52] <mason_> DotScreen: right
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3743 [21:30:10] <mason_> mender27: how do I get the pastebin?
3744 [21:30:12] <DotScreen> okay, let's see... Have u tried a live and check the disk?
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3746 [21:30:22] <mason_> i have not
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3748 [21:31:07] <DotScreen> it would help, you could make a analysis and post here
3749 [21:31:26] <mason_> how do I get it though?
3750 [21:31:26] <DotScreen> u're using a DVD burned ISO, right?
3751 [21:31:33] <mason_> yes
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3755 [21:32:43] <DotScreen> Okay, after you boot ur disk, there's several options, like "Graphical Installation" and such, close to those options will be something like "run live"
3756 [21:32:46] <mender27> mason_, you could try to direct the dmesg output to a file instead of to the terminal like it's normally displayed and then transfer it to your current PC.
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3760 [21:33:32] <mason_> im using the netinstall, does that have a live?
3761 [21:33:44] <mason_> or am i betteroff just installing it from the live
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3765 [21:34:03] <jhutchins_wk> mason_: What kind of disks is it failing to detect?
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3767 [21:34:30] <mason_> hard disks with windows xp on them
3768 [21:34:43] <mason_> it is detecting the dvd its installing from
3769 [21:34:48] <DotScreen> Oh, I'm afraid not. The 'problem' is a drive, for sure... Maybe it this drive are not on the "mini image" of netinstall
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3771 [21:35:06] <DotScreen> have u tried to use a complete installer?
3772 [21:35:15] <mason_> im downloading the torrent now
3773 [21:35:38] <mender27> mason_, also, by "not detecting disks" do you mean that the installer shows an error while doing hard drive detection or just shows a blank page?
3774 [21:35:53] <jmcnaught> mason_: it would be helpful if you tell us exactly what installer image file you are using, not just "the latest one"
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3776 [21:36:04] <mason_> let me look...
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3778 [21:36:27] <teraflops> DotScreen: tried expert install and select all the stuff wile asking for additional controllers? (or something similar, I do not use the installer so much)
3779 [21:36:33] <mason_> debian-9.0.0-i386-netinst.iso
3780 [21:36:37] <tuH> Alright, so I messed up a bit. I installed apparmor with profiles, extras and utils. When I followed the debian.org guide to set all extra profiles to complain mode, internet stopped working and I was no longer able to restart apparmor, it would fail at start. I tried removing it with aptitude purge, but everything was the same at reinstall. I then tried uninstalling it again, and deleting everything I found using find / -name "apparmor", except for /sys
3781 [21:36:37] <tuH> stuff. When I tried installing apparmor again, it worked, but all the profiles where gone. And I could not find them anywhere, reinstalling profiles did nothing. How should you properly remove packages to the fullest extent, and why where the profiles not coming back?
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3783 [21:37:20] <jmcnaught> mason_: if that one doesn't detect your drives it's unlikely that a larger one will. You burned that .iso file to a DVD-R?
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3785 [21:37:34] <mason_> jmcnaught: yes I did
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3788 [21:38:28] <jmcnaught> mason_: while you are booted into the installer, use "alt+f2" to get to another terminal window to run some commands ("ctrl+alt+f2" if you use the graphical install)
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3791 [21:39:06] <DotScreen> jmcnaught, there's no chance that the netinstall aren't recognizing the hard disk driver?
3792 [21:39:14] <DotScreen> I'm not so sure about that
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3795 [21:39:57] <mason_> is there something is should change in BIOS or WinXP to make the drives "visible"?
3796 [21:40:09] <mason_> i*
3797 [21:40:19] <jmcnaught> DotScreen: oh really? the netinst is the same installer as DVD-1 or CD-1, the only difference is in the packages it contains on disk. The netinst has the least, because it will download from the internet during the installation. What is behind your theory?
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3799 [21:40:31] <teraflops> DotScreen: oh I think I was wrong I was talking about loading installer components, sorry
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3802 [21:41:20] <teraflops> DotScreen: sata? ide?
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3810 [21:43:24] <mason_> im burning the live now
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3813 [21:43:44] <jmcnaught> tuH: have you read the man page for apt-get to understand the difference between remove and purge?
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3816 [21:44:46] <DotScreen> jmcnaught, some packages need to loaded before anything, I don't know if this is the case here, but some cases if it would change the whole installation process
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3818 [21:45:16] <tuH> jmcnaught, I read the answer from an askubuntu, and it stated that, "will also attempt to remove other packages which were required by packagename on but are not required by any remaining packages." With 495 upvotes, so I figured it was correct.
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3821 [21:46:29] <DotScreen> By the way, it's my first time using an IRC. Is there some shortcuts that could help to improve my experience here?
3822 [21:47:11] <jmcnaught> tuH: always refer to first party documentation first. A lot of junk answers online, even if they're popular. "apt-get remove" removes the software, leaves the conffiles. "apt-get purge" also removes conf files.
3823 [21:47:55] <jmcnaught> DotScreen: it sounds like you are speculating about the difference between installer images. If you don't know and are just guessing, you can end up adding a lot of confusion.
3824 [21:47:55] <teraflops> DotScreen: use tab for nick completion, and do not paste more than 3 lines ;)
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3826 [21:48:11] <mason_> the live is starting
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3828 [21:48:36] <mason_> 'probing edd'
3829 [21:48:46] <tuH> jmcnaught, well then I did it correctly? Or are there any difference between aptitude and apt-get purge? According to debian wiki, I should stick to aptitude. Anyway, some of the files where not deleted, and the profiles did not come back even with reinstall. I don't understand.
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3831 [21:49:23] <dTal> the answer is whichever package manager you're currently using, you should be using one of the other two
3832 [21:49:43] <jmcnaught> tuH: you can use whichever of apt, apt-get, aptitude that you prefer. They have some differences in behaviour, but the remove/purge behaviour is the same (it is dpkg that handles this part)
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3834 [21:50:37] <tuH> Ah, ok. If I remember correctly, deb wiki stated that aptitude was better at getting all the information on what changed, what was located where on installation.
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3836 [21:51:33] <jmcnaught> aptitude changed from standard priority to optional for stretch
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3841 [21:52:06] <jmcnaught> apt is the new front-end that users are encouraged to use. aptitude still has the best search though
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3844 [21:52:37] <mender27> jmcnaught, also felt that way about aptitude :).
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3848 [21:54:11] <tuH> jmcnaught, so I should use apt-get instead? Or just apt?
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3850 [21:54:22] <greycat> Use whatever you like.
3851 [21:54:24] <mittttens> how can i make it so that the /vmlinuz and /initrd.img symlinks are created in /boot rather than in /
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3856 [21:55:16] <mittttens> syslinux can't access / since it's on an lvm partition
3857 [21:55:20] <mason_> the live does not see the hard drive
3858 [21:55:26] <mittttens> and LUKS
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3867 [21:57:04] <jhutchins_wk> mason_: Does the BIOS see the drives?
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3870 [21:57:18] <jhutchins_wk> mason_: Are they ATA/IDE?
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3872 [21:57:44] <mender27> mason_, in what sense? the hard drive is not mounted? dmesg does not register the hard drive? did you try "fdisk -l" by any chance also?
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3875 [21:58:21] <mason_> im using the disk in winxp right now
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3877 [21:58:33] <mason_> i don't know if the bios sees it, i don't know how to check
3878 [21:58:49] <jhutchins_wk> mason_: If you're booted to it then the BIOS sees it.
3879 [21:58:56] <mason_> oh
3880 [21:58:58] <mason_> then yes it does
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3883 [21:59:41] <teraflops> mason_: do you have options for the disk in the bios? like sata/ahci/whatever
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3885 [22:00:11] <mason_> let me see real quick
3886 [22:00:18] <jhutchins_wk> teraflops: BIOS options should be fine if XP is working.
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3888 [22:00:32] <teraflops> hmm
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3890 [22:00:52] <mason_> i have boot priority
3891 [22:00:57] <mason_> and i have network boot protocol
3892 [22:01:00] <jhutchins_wk> mason_: Bck to mender27's question: When you say the live image "doesn't see the drives", how are you looking at it?
3893 [22:01:08] <mason_> through the installer
3894 [22:01:19] <jhutchins_wk> mason_: How?
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3896 [22:01:31] <mason_> starting the installer with the installation disk
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3899 [22:02:02] <mason_> the boot priority is CDR > LAN > HDD > FDD
3900 [22:02:11] <mason_> Network boot protocol is PXE
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3902 [22:02:28] <mason_> drives are ata
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3904 [22:02:36] <abrotman> CDR? really?
3905 [22:02:39] <mason_> yes
3906 [22:02:50] <abrotman> "Optical Drive"
3907 [22:02:52] <mason_> the bios is ACPI
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3911 [22:03:26] <abrotman> and personally, I'd advise against using the LiveCD for installing
3912 [22:03:56] <jhutchins_wk> abrotman: He's using it for diagnostics, I think he had the netinstall.
3913 [22:04:04] <mason_> i do
3914 [22:04:08] <mason_> i have netinstall and live
3915 [22:04:25] <mason_> i have device config set to 'all devices' now
3916 [22:04:43] <mason_> the drives are ide apperently... debian says theyre ata
3917 [22:05:03] <jhutchins_wk> mason_: Same thing.
3918 [22:05:12] <mason_> oh
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3921 [22:06:40] <mason_> "ata1: SRST failed (errno=-16)" whatttt
3922 [22:06:45] <mason_> is this normal
3923 [22:07:05] <mender27> mason_, could you also run "fdisk -l"?
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3926 [22:07:45] <mason_> yes
3927 [22:08:02] <mason_> i get "-/bin/sh: fdisk: not found"
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3931 [22:09:23] <jhutchins_wk> mason_: "Some older systems (typically Pentium-I 75-150 MHz) need the 'ide-generic' module loaded before the Hard disk and / or CD can be detected by the installer. If you encounter such behaviour, try re-starting the installation with the following added to the boot line: 'insmod=ide-generic'"
3932 [22:09:56] <mason_> how do i add to the boot line
3933 [22:11:37] <mason_> do i do that in grub
3934 [22:11:56] <teraflops> press e while grub menu
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3936 [22:11:59] <teraflops> oops
3937 [22:12:10] <teraflops> press e while grub menu
3938 [22:12:32] <mason_> how do i get to the grub menu
3939 [22:12:38] <mason_> it just goes straight to the installer
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3941 [22:12:50] <mason_> is it rescue mode? bc grub rescue
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3943 [22:13:17] <humbobo> syslinux is the boot manager on the live / installer i think
3944 [22:13:23] <teraflops> what are you using for installing debian?
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3946 [22:13:29] <jhutchins_wk> mason_: You need to press e on the menu item in grub.
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3948 [22:13:33] <teraflops> humbobo: e works the same
3949 [22:13:41] <mason_> how do i get to grub though
3950 [22:13:50] <teraflops> what are you using for installing debian? ^
3951 [22:13:54] <mason_> cd rom
3952 [22:14:04] <jhutchins_wk> mason_: grub is what the menu of what to boot to is.
3953 [22:14:06] <teraflops> then you have a bootloader menu
3954 [22:14:11] <teraflops> press e while on it
3955 [22:14:12] <mason_> right
3956 [22:14:13] <mason_> ok
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3958 [22:14:21] <jhutchins_wk> mason_: When you can selecct install or rescue etc.
3959 [22:14:28] <mason_> ohhhh
3960 [22:14:29] <mason_> ok
3961 [22:14:32] <mason_> lemme try that
3962 [22:14:48] <mason_> im pressing e, it isnt working
3963 [22:15:06] <jhutchins_wk> did you select the install line?
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3965 [22:15:22] <mason_> i tried pressing e on both
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3967 [22:15:31] <mason_> graphical and plain 'install'
3968 [22:15:51] <mason_> should i try with the live disk
3969 [22:15:56] <teraflops> mason_: it's before that
3970 [22:16:10] <mason_> so press e while its booting?
3971 [22:16:11] <teraflops> just when grub prompts
3972 [22:16:22] <mason_> what
3973 [22:16:48] <teraflops> sorry I cannot explain myself better (it's my fault)
3974 [22:16:54] <mason_> dw
3975 [22:17:00] <mason_> should i do rescue mode and try it
3976 [22:17:06] <teraflops> nope :S
3977 [22:17:10] <mason_> ok
3978 [22:17:18] <mason_> in the help menu theres a boot prompt
3979 [22:17:32] <humbobo> just how old is this machine ?
3980 [22:17:53] <mason_> ~12-13 years
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3983 [22:19:17] <jhutchins_wk> mason_: Sorry if we're not very clear about this, we tend to run the installer once then just do upgrades.
3984 [22:19:32] <mason_> i understand
3985 [22:19:36] <jhutchins_wk> mason_: You need the very first thing that pops up after the BIOS/POST screen.
3986 [22:19:55] <mason_> the installation menu
3987 [22:19:56] <jhutchins_wk> mason_: The menu you're on is a little later in the process.
3988 [22:20:21] <mason_> its the menu that says "graphical install, install, help, advanced options" etc
3989 [22:20:37] <mason_> i pressed e while it was booting, nothing...
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4015 [22:28:05] <humbobo> i run a pentium II mason, it works great but no graphical anything
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4018 [22:29:04] <jhutchins_wk> mason_: I'm sorry, just confirmed that the install CD does not have a grub menu. Let me see if I can get it to come up.
4019 [22:29:13] <humbobo> never knew e worked like that in syslinux, always used tab
4020 [22:29:37] <mason_> i pretty much only need the name of the driver maaaaaan
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4022 [22:29:59] <mason_> i am using the non-graphical installer.
4023 [22:30:07] <mason_> im going to try the ide command
4024 [22:30:46] <mason_> i ran it in the terminal
4025 [22:30:49] <mason_> plsplsplsplsplsplspls
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4027 [22:31:00] <mason_> christ
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4029 [22:31:12] <humbobo> is it a pentium 3 or a celeron ?
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4032 [22:31:36] <mason_> ohhh man i don't know
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4034 [22:31:40] <mason_> let me check
4035 [22:32:05] <mason_> pentium m 745
4036 [22:33:24] <humbobo> oh m , aren't they the ones which can't take pae ?
4037 [22:33:29] <mason_> idk
4038 [22:33:31] <mason_> OH OK OK
4039 [22:33:36] <mason_> i got to the boot line
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4042 [22:34:28] <mason_> mmmmkay now its loading
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4044 [22:34:46] <mason_> it said ok, now i think its restarting
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4055 [22:38:08] <mason_> damn this is reeeeaaaaaaally sloooow
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4059 [22:39:19] <mason_> it just booted
4060 [22:39:22] <mason_> straight to live
4061 [22:39:23] <mason_> hm
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4064 [22:39:52] <jhutchins_wk> If the command line worked, it should be able to see the drives now.
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4067 [22:40:35] <mason_> it went direct to the live, and i put in the netinstall disk (because its faster)
4068 [22:40:52] <teraflops> mason_: if that works, youll have to edit /etc/default/grub to make it persistent
4069 [22:41:04] <mason_> ok
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4071 [22:41:25] <mason_> i added to the boot line in the netinstall disk and it is restarting
4072 [22:41:29] <mason_> plsplsplsplspls
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4102 [22:51:30] <jhutchins_wk> teraflops: Theoretically the installer will set the correct kernel parameters for the boot config, but this might be an exception.
4103 [22:52:15] <teraflops> not the only one I think
4104 [22:52:17] <jhutchins_wk> I wonder how he got the grub menu?
4105 [22:52:39] <jhutchins_wk> teraflops: I do so few installs these days.
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4107 [22:52:53] <teraflops> grub does not boot from the hdd
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4110 [22:53:13] <teraflops> on ata disks? _p
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4115 [22:57:26] <teraflops> jhutchins_wk: it's old hw maybe that exact model is a bit problematic
4116 [22:57:42] <earlybird> Anybody know why lua5.3 is so inconsistently supported in stretch, which is just disappointing? E.g. lua-posix missing lua5.3 support (while supporting 5.1, 5.2!) while lua-penlight is shipping support for 5.{1,2,3} … definitely not a problem with lua-posix itself as that one builds just fine against 5.3. luarocks fixes all that? Is there a partiuclar mailing list Debian lua is using?
4117 [22:57:58] <jhutchins_wk> I think the explanation I posted above was correct.
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4125 [22:58:41] <jhutchins_wk> teraflops: "Some older systems (typically Pentium-I 75-150 MHz) need the 'ide-generic' module loaded before the Hard disk and / or CD can be detected by the installer."
4126 [22:59:02] <teraflops> earlybird: who knows, maybe the freeze left lua in such situation
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4137 [23:02:25] <bennypr0fane> Hello, I'm looking for live iso image (stretch with lxde) with non-free firmware to torrent. Do we have such a thing?
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4140 [23:03:26] <bennypr0fane> I only found torrents for offivial releases, while replaced-url
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4174 [23:17:03] <tuH> Anyone using pass tomb that could lend me a hand?
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4190 [23:27:54] <thurstylark> Trying to install stretch, and I can't get the installer to configure my interface with DHCP. DHCP is working just fine on the network, and the currently installed OS uses it just fine, but the installer won't work for some reason. What can I do to get the installer to configure the interface with DHCP properly?
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4196 [23:30:34] <epsilon> sounds like the driver for the network interface is missing, can you assign an IP manually and checkl if you can ping the new host from other mashine?
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4199 [23:31:43] <somiaj> thurstylark: what network card are you using?
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4204 [23:33:32] <teraflops> _tremo: maybe youre missing firmware?
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4206 [23:33:50] <teraflops> erm thurstylark
4207 [23:33:52] <thurstylark> BCM5716 installed on the motherboard of this Dell PowerEdge T410
4208 [23:34:11] <thurstylark> I highly doubt firmware for this old machine is missing :P
4209 [23:34:12] <somiaj> usually the installer won't even try dhcp if the network card is missing firmware, but it could be the issue
4210 [23:34:29] <somiaj> thurstylark: if a card requires firmware, it is not included in the offical installers if it is non-free
4211 [23:34:45] <somiaj> ,v firmware-bnx2
4212 [23:34:46] <judd> Package: firmware-bnx2 on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 0.43~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 0.43; jessie-backports/non-free: 20161130-2~bpo8+1; sid/non-free: 20161130-3; buster/non-free: 20161130-3; stretch/non-free: 20161130-3
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4214 [23:35:01] <somiaj> google suggest that is the package you are missing, it won't be on the offical installer, there is an unoffical firmware installer if needed
4215 [23:35:02] <thurstylark> The installer detected both cards and I tried DHCP for both, but neither configured properly
4216 [23:35:25] <somiaj> you could also complete the install, then worry about firmware/network until after the install and get the network up from inside a new install instead of the installer
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4218 [23:36:06] <somiaj> thurstylark: the installer can detect the cards even if you have missing firmware.
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4220 [23:36:43] <thurstylark> true. Not my favorite answer because it would require me downloading a different installer and I've got 30 minutes left to do it :/
4221 [23:36:47] <teraflops> thurstylark: or can just dowload the iso with fw to see if it makes a difference
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4223 [23:37:16] <somiaj> thurstylark: what install image do you have?
4224 [23:37:31] <thurstylark> the netinst image
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4226 [23:37:41] <teraflops> then youre fucked :p
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4232 [23:38:37] <somiaj> thurstylark: the netinstall image contains a minimial system.
4233 [23:38:50] <Guest17135> Hi anyone has already make a cp bash script ?
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4235 [23:39:18] <somiaj> thurstylark: you can install a base system from the netinstall without a network (this is a minimial system). You can then download the firmware, and copy it over with say a usb drive, get the network up, and then complete then use tasksel/apt/aptitude to install the software you want afterwards.
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4239 [23:39:35] <somiaj> thurstylark: this is an option if you don't want to download the non-free firmware installer and use what you currently have.
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4241 [23:39:38] <teraflops> what's wrong with the one from coreutils?
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4245 [23:40:19] <thurstylark> somiaj: Ahh, so if I skip the network step, I can still install and deal with this after the fact?
4246 [23:40:24] <thurstylark> because that would be just fine
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4248 [23:41:18] <somiaj> thurstylark: correct
4249 [23:41:40] <thurstylark> Then that is what I shall do. Thanks!
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4251 [23:42:24] <teraflops> hmm
4252 [23:42:52] <Cobalt> Hello. How would I go about automounting USB drives/pendrives to their label automagically in /media when running headless? I'm seeking to replicate the behaviour of the GNOME automounter.
4253 [23:43:20] <teraflops> well, he will need the related fw package or a debian image with fw later
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4255 [23:43:59] <somiaj> Cobalt: there are various automounting tools that don't use gnome.
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4257 [23:44:19] <somiaj> ,v usbmount
4258 [23:44:20] <judd> Package: usbmount on amd64 -- jessie: 0.0.22; sid: 0.0.22; wheezy: 0.0.22
4259 [23:44:26] <Cobalt> somiaj: The one I've found referenced the most is usbmount, seems to be unmaintained since 2007.
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4261 [23:44:53] <somiaj> Cobalt: yea the problem is the tool keeps changing. I think this maybe something you can configure inside of udev/systemd, but finding the correct info is keeps changing.
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4264 [23:46:43] <Cobalt> somiaj: I can run a script when it detects a device is plugged in, but it gets exponentially complicated from there on, to create the mountpoint and remove it when unplugged. Again, I can run a script when the device is yanked out, less so to remove the mountpoint. I've managed to do this with systemd automount with an entry in fstab, but on a static, pre-existing mountpoint. I'd like to be able to do this
4265 [23:46:49] <Cobalt> with _any_ USB storage device. :S
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4267 [23:47:14] <Cobalt> Most of the information on the net is out of date, or people use a combination of solutions, so it's really messy.
4268 [23:47:26] <somiaj> Cobalt: yea, usually this is only a feature desktop users want, so finding a non-desktop solution seems to keep changing
4269 [23:47:28] <Cobalt> I was hoping someone has a sane solution to this.
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4273 [23:48:37] <Cobalt> Haha. At this rate, it would be a lot faster/easier to just manually mount it.
4274 [23:48:47] <somiaj> Cobalt: the usbmount package maybe able to be installed in stretch just fine, even though it is outdated, it may still work.
4275 [23:49:05] <somiaj> Cobalt: I prefer that myself, fstab works if you know the UUID, but if you want any usb drive I'm not finding any current info.
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4277 [23:50:11] <somiaj> seems the only reason usbmount was removed because it cannot mount ntfs drives. Is this going to be an issue for you?
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4282 [23:50:54] <Cobalt> somiaj: Potentially.
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4290 [23:52:13] <somiaj> ,v autofs
4291 [23:52:14] <judd> Package: autofs on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.0.7-3; jessie: 5.0.8-2+deb8u1; sid: 5.1.2-1; buster: 5.1.2-1; stretch: 5.1.2-1
4292 [23:52:23] <somiaj> Cobalt: autofs is still in stretch, have you looked at that?
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4294 [23:52:46] <somiaj> replaced-url
4295 [23:53:18] <Cobalt> somiaj: I think I did, but briefly. I've just come across this pure udev rule that seems to take care of the issue: replaced-url
4296 [23:53:32] <somiaj> replaced-url
4297 [23:53:33] <somiaj> I found that too
4298 [23:53:37] <Cobalt> somiaj: Yes, I read that article.
4299 [23:53:53] <teraflops> Cobalt: just curious why do you want such feature in a headless setup
4300 [23:54:13] <ikskatrezed> coucou/hi @all
4301 [23:54:27] <teraflops> unless you know the device is mounted always in the same location, it should require connecting to the system
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4303 [23:54:51] <Cobalt> Both actually. I'm going to do some more Googling. Glad I'm not missing some really obvious solution. :)
4304 [23:55:23] <humbobo> it wasn't really that old tho
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4315 [23:57:06] <Guest17135> anyone know a good backup file solution
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4318 [23:58:13] <cusco> Guest17135: I go with rsync
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4320 [23:58:42] <cusco> hey folks.. a light desktop manager for a 15 year old laptop
4321 [23:58:53] <cusco> had lxde in the past.. semmed heavy..
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4329 [23:59:37] <nvz> cusco: you're confusing terms.. the DE is the whole user interface, wm, file manager, panels, etc, the DM is the login application
4330 [23:59:48] <cusco> sorry I meant de...
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