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1[00:00:27] <phogg> larvallid: If each partition is indeed LUKS encrypted you probably cannot resize and have anything work, but you can probably re-purpose entire partitions.
2[00:00:49] <phogg> larvallid: I assume also that all partitions are added as PVs to you your VG. Is that right?
3[00:02:08] <larvallid> phogg, i'm not sure. /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 are very small and only used to boot up the system. /dev/sda3 contains system files and my user data. when i enter my passphrase on boot, it mentions something about debian--vg.
4[00:02:34] <phogg> larvallid: run pvs.
5[00:02:37] <larvallid> ok
6[00:03:30] <larvallid> i'm currently in a live system running off a USB. running "pvs" produces no result. i assume i have to run it off the OS on the hard drive, so booting up now.
7[00:04:09] <phogg> larvallid: you have to have lvm activated working, I think
8[00:04:40] <phogg> larvallid: you can try pvdisplay -m /dev/ice/path
9[00:04:43] <larvallid> phogg, running pvs produces: "/dev/mapper/sda3_crypt Debian lvm2 a-- 232.14g 0"
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12[00:05:05] <phogg> larvallid: that's all? So you only have one pv
13[00:05:11] <larvallid> yes, that's all
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15[00:05:16] <phogg> this is not good news
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17[00:05:23] <larvallid> i won't be able to resize it?
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19[00:05:38] <phogg> larvallid: I don't know, but I *imagine* that it shouldn't work. Not unless LUKS natively supports that.
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21[00:05:50] <larvallid> phogg, alright.
22[00:06:12] <koollman> it's supported. just have to do it all in the right order
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25[00:06:44] <phogg> koollman: got some experience to lend? I'm flying blind on the encryption front.
26[00:06:46] <koollman> so first figure out what is inside what
27[00:07:01] <koollman> replaced-url
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32[00:07:51] <phogg> koollman: brilliant, that's exactly what larvallid needs.
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35[00:08:05] <Bundestrojaner> good evening. I'm testing debian (stable) on a Medion E1240T.
36[00:08:05] <Bundestrojaner> Problem: WLAN is not listed, lspci returns command not found and lsmod lists an "iwlwifi", which is the module for intel wlan chips according to my search results
37[00:08:15] <larvallid> koollman, thanks
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39[00:08:48] <koollman> the very very important step (beside 'having backups') is writing down the order of your 'data containers'. you could have lvm in cryptsetup or cryptsetup in lvm
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41[00:08:57] <koollman> and you need to reduce the inside first
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43[00:09:09] <phogg> koollman: is using fdisk really necessary? Seems like parted could do it just as well, unless it's trying to be smart.
44[00:09:11] <jmcnaught> Bundestrojaner: the lspci command is in the pciutils package. Do you have the firmware-iwlwifi package installed?
45[00:09:19] <koollman> phogg: parted tries to be smart :)
46[00:09:28] <phogg> koollman: and normally that's such a good thing (-;
47[00:09:36] <koollman> and it's bad at being smart in almost all case more complex than 'fs in partition' :)
48[00:09:51] <koollman> and this is more like 'fs in lvm in cryptsetup in partition'
49[00:09:57] <Bundestrojaner> jmcnaught: i've booted debian live from usb and i can't install anything because no wireless lan
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51[00:10:26] <phogg> I should really get familiar with disk encryption... I'm just reluctant to add another layer of indirection to my already-complex disk management scheme.
52[00:10:37] <koollman> larvallid: also, first obvious step, if you can (and you should think about wether you can afford it) : make backups ;)
53[00:10:45] <mutante> Bundestrojaner: had the same problem, ended up downloading firmware-iwlwifi package on another machine, put it on USB stick, plug in, install from there
54[00:10:47] <jmcnaught> Bundestrojaner: you also have no wired LAN, or other computers that can download .deb files from replaced-url
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57[00:11:53] <Bundestrojaner> jmcnaught: no wired lan, only 1 usb slot (booted from that one)
58[00:12:22] <larvallid> koollman, i've got the important data backed up, but the page seems very in-depth and i'm not sure i will be able to do it
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60[00:13:47] <jmcnaught> Bundestrojaner: in that case try using the unofficial copy of the image that has non-free firmwares included: replaced-url
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71[00:16:14] <jmcnaught> Bundestrojaner: or make a partition in the unused space on your current Debian live USB, and put firmware .debs there
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78[00:20:34] <Bundestrojaner> jmcnaught: thx. I'm also thinking about installing it anyway and simply copying the files later by usbstick
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81[00:21:04] <Bundestrojaner> mutante: do you also have an atom x38xx? Just to be sure it will work
82[00:21:06] <koollman> larvallid: boot your system, copy somewhere this info : output of pvs, vgs, lvs, lsblk. (at least)
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85[00:23:55] <mutante> Bundestrojaner: no, i don't, i have a Thinkpad X1, but i needed the same firmware you need.. the chipset for wifi matters, not the CPU itself
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87[00:24:34] <mutante> definitely was that non-free iwlwifi package that fixed it for me
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100[00:31:22] <larvallid> koollman, my original goal was to install another OS onto the internal hard drive, i've decided to instead install it on an external hard drive. that way i won't have to deal with resizing.
101[00:31:42] <larvallid> koollman, phogg, thanks for the help.
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103[00:32:14] <phogg> larvallid: I didn't do anything, but you're very welcome to it.
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114[00:36:25] <Bundestrojaner> mutante: thx
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130[00:43:13] <plzguy> help me please i asked a friend for helping me with a problem and he told me do cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda i did and i cant boot anymore now
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132[00:44:00] <jmcnaught> plzguy: your friend tricked you into erasing your HDD
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134[00:44:30] <ozzloy> plzguy, plz tell me this is joke
135[00:44:54] <plzguy> how can i repair my hdd?
136[00:45:11] <ozzloy> start from scratch, reinstall
137[00:45:18] <plzguy> i cant
138[00:45:25] <JPT> After how many seconds did you abort that command? Also, how many megabytes/s can that disk write?
139[00:45:59] <plzguy> i dont know
140[00:46:30] <raktajino> plzguy: sounds like you just learned the hard way to always know what the command you're running does
141[00:46:58] <plzguy> he told me it will fix it
142[00:47:14] <larvallid> did you run it as the "root" user, or with "sudo" before it?
143[00:47:19] <plzguy> root
144[00:47:24] <bodeezl> XD
145[00:47:27] <plzguy> he said i need root
146[00:47:33] <JPT> You can keep that hdd in question aside - maybe you can later learn how to /maybe/ recover some parts of it - depending on how much got overwritten and if you still kind of remember your parition layout.
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148[00:48:05] <JPT> The amount of data lost is basically the write speed of that hdd multiplied by the amount of time in seconds that this command ran.
149[00:48:33] <plzguy> do i need a new hdd?
150[00:48:39] <plzguy> or a new pc?
151[00:48:51] <JPT> You can use your existing one, but you'll overwrite everything that may be left on it
152[00:49:03] <raktajino> You need to reinstall your OS
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154[00:49:09] <plzguy> but i have no backup
155[00:49:15] <humbot> about 2GB / min for an oldish hard drive ?
156[00:49:19] <raktajino> Next time you will.
157[00:49:30] <bodeezl> why did you have no backup ? :(
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161[00:49:41] <plzguy> who need backups
162[00:49:41] <JPT> In case you are interested in how to /maybe/ restore parts of your data have a read here: replaced-url
163[00:49:47] <JPT> No guarantees though
164[00:49:53] <JPT> Also, make sure to punch your "friend"
165[00:50:10] <plzguy> shall i call the police?
166[00:50:18] <raktajino> .....
167[00:50:20] <bodeezl> i would call your mom tell her what you did
168[00:50:22] <JPT> Everyone needs backups.
169[00:50:35] <JPT> A drive can fail, a computer can corrupt data. A thief can steal your stuff.
170[00:50:40] <JPT> Everyone needs backups.
171[00:50:51] <JPT> If you have data that you cannot afford to lose, you NEED BACKUPS
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173[00:50:57] <plzguy> my porn is also lost?
174[00:50:59] <JPT> sure
175[00:51:01] <ozzloy> a friend can trick you into deleting your hdd
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177[00:51:22] <JPT> For now, all we know is that everything on /dev/sda is now gone.
178[00:51:37] <JPT> Sit down, have a grief and maybe create a list of data you lost
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182[00:52:15] <plzguy> oh shit
183[00:52:23] <JPT> Yes.
184[00:52:28] <plzguy> i will lose my job
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190[00:54:07] <plzguy> can i buy a new hdd with debian on it?
191[00:54:24] <JPT> There are two options for you right now:
192[00:54:32] <ozzloy> i suspect troll
193[00:54:42] <JPT> 1) Start over with your current hard drive and re-install your stuff and go on.
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198[00:54:47] <ozzloy> porn and job losing on same hdd?
199[00:55:01] <JPT> 2) Get a new hdd and start over. Also, keep the old one to be able to maybe recover snippets from it later.
200[00:55:19] <JPT> ozzloy: I agree, highly unlikely to be that reckless.
201[00:55:21] <plzguy> no not troll this pc is in a pharmaceutical industry i am just the cleaner
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203[00:55:41] <JPT> A cleaner won't have root access on a random pc in an industrial building
204[00:55:55] <ozzloy> good game, guis
205[00:55:58] <plzguy> your mom was so good in my bed, i primose, you fucking bastard
206[00:56:11] <jmcnaught> !ops plzguy trolling
207[00:56:11] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jmcnaught complains about: plzguy trolling
208[00:56:30] <plzguy> asshole
209[00:56:33] <plzguy> nigger
210[00:56:35] <plzguy> nazi
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212[00:56:50] <ozzloy> pulling out all the big boy words
213[00:56:50] <JPT> plzguy: You may want to stay nice in here. You may offend some people.
214[00:56:55] <ozzloy> lol
215[00:57:05] <plzguy> JPT: fuck you before i find and kill u
216[00:57:17] <friiq> kill me instead
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218[00:57:30] <ozzloy> how could you fuck him before you find him? illuminati confirmed
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220[00:57:39] <plzguy> i will fuck your asshole until its bleeding
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222[00:57:48] <friiq> then you will stop?
223[00:57:50] <friiq> beginner.
224[00:58:09] <plzguy> and then you will give me a huge and nice blowjob
225[00:58:11] <plzguy> until i cum
226[00:58:17] <friiq> pics
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228[00:58:30] <JPT> I was about to get mad because you claimed to not have any backups. But this ...
229[00:58:32] * JPT chuckles
230[00:58:49] <plzguy> indeed my porns all gone
231[00:58:53] <plzguy> but i can download them again
232[00:58:54] <plzguy> TB
233[00:59:10] <friiq> downloads are hard
234[00:59:20] <plzguy> BDSM and so on
235[00:59:20] <ozzloy> and long
236[00:59:24] <plzguy> fk yes
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238[00:59:38] <plzguy> 4K porn
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240[01:00:16] <friiq> why not run BSD instead
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242[01:00:26] <plzguy> bsd is for assholes like you
243[01:00:33] <friiq> you can't
244[01:00:41] <plzguy> stfu
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246[01:00:57] <SuperTramp83> jelly, ?
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248[01:01:03] <friiq> do you like hot sauce
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255[01:01:38] <friiq> nice.
256[01:01:41] <SuperTramp83> nice
257[01:01:50] <ozzloy> nice.jpg
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260[01:03:33] <sparky4> what
261[01:03:35] <sparky4> a
262[01:03:37] <sparky4> cunt
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269[01:06:27] <laurus> Has anyone been having network connection issues with Debian Stretch?
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272[01:07:50] <ozzloy> laurus, yes, but it's my router's fault
273[01:08:37] <ozzloy> laurus, if you're looking to fix the issues, you might wanna say what you tried, what you expected, and what actually happened
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275[01:09:05] <laurus> ozzloy, well I'm confused by the issue actually. Basically, sometimes, DNS doesn't work, for connections. I'm using Network Manager.
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277[01:09:55] <laurus> I installed Debian without any Desktop Environment, and then manually installed lxqt.
278[01:10:18] <laurus> Then I installed NetworkManager, and found this issue. So I tried changing some stuff around and it worked, but it often just stops working on different/new wireless networks.
279[01:10:18] <as2000> laurus: just stating the obvious, but have you updated?
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281[01:10:25] <zeptor> fuck you assholes
282[01:10:26] <zeptor> fuck you assholes
283[01:10:26] <zeptor> fuck you assholes
284[01:10:28] <zeptor> hahahaha
285[01:10:29] <zeptor> xDDDD
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287[01:10:29] <ozzloy> lol, he can't
288[01:10:43] <ozzloy> (or she)
289[01:10:46] <laurus> as2000, I have been updating, but not in the last couple of days.
290[01:11:03] <laurus> And now I'm somewhere where the wireless doesn't work (I'm on a wired computer chatting here)
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292[01:11:19] <laurus> Could anyone explain what the basic problem is? Or am I the only one who has had this issue?
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295[01:11:28] <harliken> ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
296[01:11:28] <harliken> ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
297[01:11:28] <harliken> ahah
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299[01:11:41] <ozzloy> lot of trollin today
300[01:11:44] <laurus> For example, ifconfig seems to be gone, and certain other things are working differently. Should I be using system-networkd?
301[01:11:55] <laurus> If I use system-networkd, can I still use the graphical NetworkManageR?
302[01:12:03] <harliken> ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
303[01:12:03] <harliken> ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
304[01:12:03] <harliken> ahah
305[01:12:05] <harliken> ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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307[01:12:06] <LtL> !ops harliken flooding
308[01:12:06] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: ltl complains about: harliken flooding
309[01:12:26] <LtL> 'nuff said
310[01:12:27] <laurus> I asked here before and someone mentioned that the "gateway" was the issue, but the fix that person gave me didn't work on some other routers
311[01:14:25] <tomreyn> AS15943 - abuse@wtnet.de
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315[01:14:38] <laurus> Hello?
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317[01:15:49] <as2000> Laurus: my eyeballs popped out of my head when you said ifconfig is gone. never heard that happening.
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319[01:16:04] <laurus> as2000, what? It just wasn't installed.
320[01:16:29] <as2000> normally that is installed by default.
321[01:16:46] <laurus> as2000, on your install is it there?
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323[01:17:06] <laurus> You're the second person who's said this.
324[01:17:11] <as2000> yes
325[01:17:18] <laurus> So you installed Debian Stretch and ifconfig was there?
326[01:17:38] <as2000> yes.
327[01:17:42] <laurus> Hm OK.
328[01:17:49] <laurus> I mean, I have it now, because I installed net-tools.
329[01:17:54] <as2000> did you do a minimal install or something?
330[01:18:04] <laurus> as2000 I didn't install a graphical environment.
331[01:18:18] <laurus> I wanted to install Lxqt, but it wasn't an option in the installer for some reason.
332[01:18:25] <laurus> Despite having a task package.
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335[01:19:28] <laurus> Anyway, should I be using system-networkd?
336[01:19:39] <jdsc> Your install of stretch had ifconfig?
337[01:19:41] <jdsc> Mine didn't
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341[01:20:51] <emerson_muthafuc> muthafucka
342[01:20:53] <emerson_muthafuc> fuck u
343[01:20:55] <emerson_muthafuc> asshole
344[01:20:55] <SuperTramp83> I believe net-tools wasn't installed by default here too.
345[01:20:59] <emerson_muthafuc> fuck u muthaukea
346[01:21:02] <bub_> !
347[01:21:33] <bub_> friday, grab a beer, chill
348[01:21:40] <emerson_muthafuc> fuck you muthafucka
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352[01:21:49] <SuperTramp83> In fact I remember netstat gave no output (that's also how I learned about 'ss')
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354[01:22:19] <SuperTramp83> What's with the sudden rise of idiots (trolls are nothing but idiots) here? :/
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356[01:23:02] <laurus> OK, so anyway, what causes these kinds of DNS problems?
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366[01:28:19] <laurus> :(
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368[01:28:42] <as2000> I am sorry. I am scratching my bald head on this :(
369[01:28:48] <laurus> I have primary DNS, secondary DNS automatically set by the wifi connection
370[01:28:54] <laurus> (as shown in network manager)
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373[01:29:51] <laurus> as2000, could something be blocking it?
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376[01:31:07] <laurus> What is dnsmasq?
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392[01:38:05] <padonak> motherfuckers
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398[01:39:08] <laurus> I restarted. Now I get "temporary failure in name resolution" when I ping bing.com
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402[01:40:33] <laurus> OK more info: when I add actual DNS servers to resolv.conf, now I'm getting the same problem as before, namely that it just hangs when I ping bing.com
403[01:40:58] <dondelelcaro> laurus: that usually just means that it can't actually reach those DNS servers.
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405[01:41:08] <dondelelcaro> laurus: for example, if you can't ping 8.8.8.8, that's not going to work.
406[01:41:11] <laurus> dondelelcaro, I can ping it.
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408[01:41:22] <laurus> So the problem is just with the lookup somehow
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410[01:41:24] <dondelelcaro> laurus: ok. Do you have dig installed?
411[01:41:32] <laurus> No, unfortunately
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413[01:42:21] <dondelelcaro> laurus: well, you can sudo strace ping bing.com; to see what exactly is hanging
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415[01:42:48] <laurus> dondelelcaro, seems strace isn't installed either
416[01:42:54] <dondelelcaro> laurus: heh
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418[01:43:03] <dondelelcaro> and you're going to tell me that tcpdump isn't as well
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420[01:43:14] <laurus> dondelelcaro, corect :(
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424[01:43:53] <dondelelcaro> laurus: well, does /etc/nsswich.conf have? are you using 8.8.8.8 as your DNS server?
425[01:44:23] <dondelelcaro> laurus: can you telnet 8.8.8.8 53; ?
426[01:44:23] <laurus> dondelelcaro, yes I'm using 8.8.8.8. But /etc/nsswitch.conf seems to have a bunch of text in it. Which part are you intersetd in?
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428[01:44:39] <dondelelcaro> laurus: mainly the hosts like
429[01:44:42] <dondelelcaro> s/like/line/
430[01:44:50] <laurus> hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns
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433[01:45:02] <laurus> When I do "telnet 8.8.8.8 53" it just says "Trying 8.8.8.8..."
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435[01:45:17] <dondelelcaro> laurus: ah. sounds like someone is blocking outgoing traffic on 53
436[01:45:26] <dondelelcaro> laurus: or you've got some sort of firewall or similar
437[01:45:28] <laurus> dondelelcaro, what is port 53 for?
438[01:45:31] <dondelelcaro> laurus: DNS
439[01:45:39] <laurus> Oh, ok.
440[01:45:46] <laurus> What could be blocking it?
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442[01:46:27] <dondelelcaro> laurus: your gateway might be; it would be a bit odd, but I could see someone doing that
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444[01:46:38] <laurus> dondelelcaro, hm. How would I fix that?
445[01:46:41] <dondelelcaro> laurus: or your own host might be. Check the output of iptables -L -n;
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447[01:46:53] <laurus> dondelelcaro: It says
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449[01:47:01] <laurus> "target prot opt source destination" for all of INPUT, FORWARD, and OUTPUT
450[01:47:19] <dondelelcaro> laurus: and everything is just policy ACCEPT, right?
451[01:47:27] <laurus> dondelelcaro, yes.
452[01:47:31] <dondelelcaro> laurus: cool
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455[01:49:04] <dondelelcaro> laurus: for checking the gateway, that's something that your network admin will have to figure out.... but you might also try using the DNS servers that your gateway/network hands out
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457[01:50:10] <laurus> dondelelcaro, hm, how would I know what those are?
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462[01:51:05] <Merovoth> Anyone having graphics problems trying to install Stretch?
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464[01:51:20] <Merovoth> Or, I should say, after that point.
465[01:52:04] <Merovoth> I had to use installgui acpi=off to go through the installation, but, now I can't get to the login screen.
466[01:52:05] <laurus> Maybe I should just assume that this particular network will never work?
467[01:52:35] <laurus> Or maybe I should just give up completely.
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469[01:53:39] <Merovoth> I went through something similar installing Jessie, but, I think I was able to get in (wrong resolution and all) and use aptitude for another backports kernel. Problem is, I can't get in, and, I can't find aptitude in the Recovery mode, either.
470[01:53:59] <laurus> Merovoth, you mean when you popped in the CD and started it up, nothing showed up right?
471[01:54:01] <Merovoth> Of course, that was a different box.
472[01:54:20] <Merovoth> Basically, yes. But, I was able to work that part out, at least.
473[01:54:42] <laurus> Hmm. I'm a total "n00b" so I can't help
474[01:54:45] <laurus> L(
475[01:54:47] <laurus> :(
476[01:54:51] <Merovoth> NP
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480[01:56:14] <Merovoth> I wonder how you're so supposed to install packages in Recovery mode?
481[01:56:28] <Merovoth> Synaptic is installed, but that's GUI
482[01:56:47] <Merovoth> Aptitude is what I rely on.
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484[01:57:42] <Merovoth> Sure, I guess you can do one package at a time, with the other apt commands, but, you've got to know exactly what to type in.
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492[01:59:46] <laurus> dondelelcaro, OK, I fixed it.
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494[01:59:55] <pbourne> russia's intervention in syria was never just about assad and the status quo in case you wonder
495[02:00:05] <pbourne> look at that infographics
496[02:00:13] <laurus> I fixed it by looking at what NetworkManager said the DNS should be, and put those numbers into /etc/resolv.conf as nameservers.
497[02:00:24] <laurus> So, how do I make /etc/resolv.conf automatically look at what NetworkManager thinks things should be?
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509[02:04:30] <dondelelcaro> laurus: ah, cool. I use resolvconf with networkmanager myself
510[02:04:36] <laurus> dondelelcaro, how do I do that?
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512[02:04:56] <dondelelcaro> laurus: apt-get install resolvconf; should do it for you
513[02:05:15] <dondelelcaro> laurus: you might need to also systemctl restart NetworkManager;
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515[02:05:41] <laurus> dondelelcaro, ok I will try it. And also, what's the difference between service and systemctl?
516[02:06:13] <dondelelcaro> laurus: service is the sysvrc way of invoking init.d scripts. systemctl talks to systemd directly
517[02:06:24] <laurus> dondelelcaro, okay, thank you. I'm learning a lot here :)
518[02:06:52] <dondelelcaro> no problem!
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520[02:07:26] <laurus> systemctl restart says "Too few arguments."
521[02:07:44] <dondelelcaro> laurus: should be "systemctl restart NetworkManager"
522[02:08:18] <dondelelcaro> (without the quotes, of course)
523[02:08:23] <laurus> dondelelcaro, you're right, it overwrote it I think.
524[02:08:32] <laurus> That's... amazing.
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526[02:08:36] <laurus> I wonder why it wasn't working before.
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528[02:09:50] <dondelelcaro> no clue
529[02:10:00] <laurus> Well thanks to you it works now. Thanks a lot :)
530[02:10:10] <dondelelcaro> no problem! glad it's working now
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585[02:46:19] <Bundestrojaner> my installation is finished, now i have a strange problem: my user doesn't have sudo-priviledge and i can't login as root.
586[02:46:19] <Bundestrojaner> Neither su nor login as root takes my root passwd
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590[02:47:51] <Bundestrojaner> what's the fastest way to fix this? mounting / with my live-image and add myself to the sudoer-file?
591[02:47:55] <PipeItToDevNull> Bundestrojaner, boot into single user mode and change the root passwd
592[02:48:19] <PipeItToDevNull> Or just change the file in single user mode
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602[02:50:50] <Bundestrojaner> PipeItToDevNull: thx
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606[02:55:17] <PipeItToDevNull> Yep
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